If you have a Patreon and take requests, I’m willing to pay for your content. I really enjoy the in-depth analysis you do, the quality of the video style and the uniqueness of your channel.
Please get back to me before you get too famous lol :).
@if ignorance is Bliss that explains my misery Just so you know, and I'm not being an ass by correcting you, and maybe you didn't mean to, but the correct spelling is "you're" not your. "You're" is "you are" ..and that's what you meant to use.
Why? Why not just leave the kid with the loving grandparents and leave?? I wish I knew her reason. I think it was stay in the good graces of mommy and... especially daddy. So she could continue using them. She’s a horrible human being.
@Wesley alan Thank you! I'm grateful for the correction...you're not an ass in my book buddy! If only you could read my dissertation before I have to submit on Tuesday 😂 I'd appreciate your correction! The university only accept me for my mind and fortunately not my grammar 😂. It has improved though! X
@if ignorance is Bliss that explains my misery hey, at least you are mature! Usually people get really angry when corrected. Once, someone corrected me and I'm glad they did! Now I dont look like a dummy, lol! Thanks for not getting angry, and being a mature person, unlike some of these guys you run into in the comments section, lol! You have a great day and good luck with everything in life!✌
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I really appreciate the time and effort that goes into making these films. One every so often, never dropping in quality and covering some really interesting cases. Perfect.
@Gabriela Karl Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD), which is sociopathy and psychopathy, is not a mental illness. It is a personality disorder. Those with APD know right from wrong and are competent to stand trial. They believe that they are above the law and are more intelligent than everyone else. They have no empathy and don't have normal emotions: they fake them if they must to not give themselves away.
that child didn't suffocate, she killed her, the journal and search history and that lying is a clear indicator. if she had just drowned she'd have burst out in tears in the end but she didn't, that woman NEVER cared for that child ever, everything was always about her her entire life and she couldn't handle that the child took that away from her
@johnmann just fyi, there is a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez in or around Orlando. She's a single mother of 6 children. She was fired from her job and had her reputation destroyed by Caysee Anthony when her name was announced by the media as the "nanny" who'd been babysitting Caylee. She sued Caycee, but I don't know if she ever got any money. Juliette Lewis is a Hollywood actress.
@ifirith please check out That Chapter. That's an excellent true crime channel by a guy named Mike and is from Ireland. He does stories from around the world; mostly, USA, UK, Canada and Ireland.
you have something wrong here. "What became of Zenaida ‘Zanny the Nanny’ Gonzalez, who Casey claimed was caring for Caylee when she went missing?
Gonzalez was interviewed by police, but no charges were ever filed against her in the case. She sued Casey for defamation in 2013, but that case was tossed out of court in 2015 after a federal judge said Casey’s statements did not legally qualify as malicious." while the nanny part may have been a fabrication, she does indeed exist.
@TundrazZ R Your argument doesn't hold any water. The American Justice system is flawed just like anything controled and operated by human beings. It is not infallable and has a history of making many mistakes. Just look at the many innocent people who were found guilty, only to be exonerated years later. Her lawyer did a better job defending her with straight up lies and falsehoods than the prosecution did in presenting the facts. That doesn't necessarily mean she didn't murder her daughter. She did. And the vast majority of the world knows it.
@Alexander Carder he strenuously denied such abuse had ever occurred. Her dad has cut all ties with her. They have no relationship at all, but the last I've heard is that her mother still talks to her. The Anthonys' house was in foreclosure and there were rumors of a divorce and bankruptcy. Her brother got married. Idk if the rumors were true.
@jUppers the medical examiner determined that Caylee was a victim of homicide. The duct tape over her nose and mouth could have been the murder weapon if it caused her suffocation and subsequent death.
Batsu Ohno Zenaida it’s just another person she is not Zani the nanny she just happens to have her name. There was no nanny... That poor lady lost her job over lies and that’s why she sued....plus all the idiots that believe this nutcase were harassing her. She had zero to do with this case and didn’t know the family at all. This lady does exist.... but Zani the nanny does not...Caylee did not have a Nanny. I believe this woman had to move.
@TundrazZ R he's not giving her a retrial.. As though this will affect the state of her legally-given freedom..He has the right to express his own interpretation of any case, open or closed, and any person, innocent or otherwise
Angie T I hope you have been able to go through TCL other videos, we are called the Schmeeda Family due to stephanies interrogation! I LOVE his channel!!❤️🙏🏼💯‼️
@N H Jimswim did have a patreon, but no longer updates it as of this month. He's open about that and it's now archival stuff. For $1 you can access probably about 3yrs worth of this kind of presentation...and trust me, he doesn't need the money ;)
@Molly Cote absolutely! I love them all, too. I lol when I recognize names of people who subscribe to TCL (go, SchmeedaFam!), on the other channels I watch. We ARE family❣💖💯👋😊
JCS - Criminal Psychology... This cases was heartbreaking for like every person that kept up with the news or tabloids. I am glad the mother wasn’t the murderer, even if she wasn’t the picture of the average mother. The media gave updates on the mother Casey. I think plenty are baffled about this case. I pray the murderer of this child, Caylee Anthony, is found and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. May Little Caylee Rest In Peace ❤️💕
I love the content, but sometimes I so frustrated and angry at how despicable people can be. This one only made it worse given that the killer got away with it. I love your content Jim. Keep it up. But I would request looking at cases where the accused are actually innocent. And not like in this case, where they’re clearly not but get away with it, but are actually innocent and are drilled anyway, and how a normal non-guilty person reacts to being accused, just as a kind of frame of reference.
The ONLY subscribed channel i have NOTIFICATIONS ON .. keep up the good work sir , im a criminologist and a law enforcer here in the Philippines by the way.
Thank you for everything, and I am also sorry for everything going on. Wishing you guys all the happiness in the world. Keep up the amazing work, I will never unpledge! Your update yesterday made me increase my pledge. Much love, from Newfoundland and Labrador
Remembering this case is like an old wound that never healed. One of those cases that more work needs to be done on. So tragic that the murderer is enjoying her life with as much anonymity as she can afford herself...
@TundrazZ R and this same "American Justice System" is so pristine, that its never been wrong? Ever heard of 1000s of wrongful convictions? Then there can be 100s of wrongful acquittals as well.
Hey JCS can we have a follow up video to this? Did any evidence come out after the verdict? How on earth is she functioning in society after the public saw this? I wonder if her Dad still calls her sweetheart after her defence was based on the allegation of him being a child molestor...
@kangarouge a dollar us is how much sterling? Do I have to do an exchange money 'thing' please, or can I just say will 2 £ cover it because I think that is well worth it or am I far below the amount required? So sorry to be so stupid. I will research but was looking for a quick answer. Its Sunday afternoon lol, I've been to church, done family lunch and walked the dog. I'm being lazy right now.
@Hitogokochi that's a very interesting and unique perspective on Jeff Bezos. I'm wondering if he'd ever thought about changing the entire format of the WP in the manner that you have. It's been many years since I've last read USA Today, but they were doing the kind of stories that you are talking about. Idk if that newspaper is still in business. If it is, it's possible that Bezos had thought along those lines, but felt that USA Today already fulfilled that niche. All I can say is that he is the richest man in the world and is doing many things right!
@Wesley alan - You corrected the person's use of "you're" You said: "Just so you know, and I'm not being an ass by correcting you, and maybe you didn't mean to, but the correct spelling is "you're" not your.
" "You're" is "you are" ..and that's what you meant to use." Ok, look at your last 7 words, you said "you meant to use" and I am saying it should be "you're" ........and that's what you're meant to use.
@jamie Allen1977 What is your obsession with abortion???? Do you just look for any opportunity to bring up the subject regardless of how inappropriate it might be? Seriously, what is your deal???
@Alexander Carder It kills me to think that she possibly lied about something so horrific . To throw your father under a bus, this man who stood by you, supported you and cared for you without prejudice through the most harrowing time for his family, is heartless. The damage to his moral standing, reputation and relationships would be undeniably devastating. Having said that, if she was telling the truth, personally I sympathize with her for that. However, it does not, in my opinion, excuse ending the life of an innocent child.
Casey Anthony has now revealed that she is working on a movie entitled As I Was Told about her “turmoil” at being accused of murdering her daughter, and her failure to report her daughter’s disappearance. She says the movie will be released near the end of this year.
Those are some shocking statistics. Thank you for pointing then out. I think it's time for me to srart looking into how I can volunteer in some form to help children more.
Why are there no subtitles or words on the screen to follow after 26:31? Some people are hard of hearing or totally deaf. Please consider that. I couldn't follow along to good with the rest of the video.
JCS you make the best videos , please don't stop making them and I hope you go further with them, like a TV series or something. You clearly put in so much love and hardwork and it shows, and we get to watch them for free on YouTube! It's much appreciated, thanks , J x
@Vampire Slayer - You are right, I had to do some reading on her, I can't get over she isn't locked up in a nut house at best, I wonder if the jury feels guilty, apparently it is claimed they didn't fully understand their duty!
It's my belief that we train our instinct as we grow. We define what 'good' is by our brain chemicals responding to emotions brought up by our instinctual desires to be selfish (ensure our own survival), lazy (don't waste effort), or anxious (fear what could harm you). We feel good when our thinking results in a positive effect and we get another release of brain chemicals. We subconsciously (sometimes consciously) remember them and categorize them via our emotions. We can retrain emotions associated with certain memories, but we can't remove the memory of the events that trained the instinctual responses or thinking in the first-place.
The moment we feel we are needing to 'survive,' we weaponize that instinct for our survival, no matter how it was trained. When surviving, there is no time to think.
JCS - Criminal Psychology I totally believe this woman murdered her child, she has zero remorse for doing so. BUT here is another side to this, another angle. What if it is true her father did rape her. Maybe that’s why they are enablers. They know the truth and prefer her to be this lying cheating woman rather than a truth teller.
Now imagine if the fear of the rape reflects on to her child too. She was afraid that as soon as her child reaches the same age she had when she first was raped that the same would happen to her. What if she killed her child because she didn’t want her child raped by her family members? What if she did this because she believed that as a mother she was doing the right thing? What if this facade she puts on is a byproduct of her life of trauma and abuse?
No normal person can behave the way she did. Even if when someone does a murder, they try to cover it up, show empathy. what if she has been wounded so badly that it has made her like this.
The first thing her father said on the phone to her while his visit was ‘hello gorgeous’ doesn’t that seem strange for a father to say to his daughter who is in jail for the possible murder and disappearance of your grand child?? She too is gushing and acts all cute. Doesnt this dynamics seem strange?
I’m all for condemning this woman and her actions. I’m disgusted by the whole trail and verdict. But I also feel that the psychology and study of this woman is incorrect and should be looked at from this theory too. What if she feels no remorse because in her head she was saving her child???
With respect for the young, innocent victim, Caylee Anthony, 3 y/o. This case took a very strange turn. Did the defense attorney manage to shed light on the inherent corruption of the prosecutors tactics by employing similarly corrupt tactics in order to extract a "not guilty" plea from the jurors by implying their complicity with the corruption of an inherently corrupt system itself? Is proof the burden, or is the real burden guilt? And is complicity with the guilt cause to share the entire burden of guilt? Either way, sexual abuse, especially when children are involved for whatever reason (including but not limited to/for the purposes of acquisition of patronage, blackmail, or bribery), should not ever be allowed, permitted, protected, or pardoned under any case, circumstance, or code.
Beautiful work as always. Thank you for giving a voice to young Caley Anthony. This video is the closest thing we can ever have to justice being served. Please share this video as much as you can.
I’m not an expert on media, just a minor in Communications and most of those credits were earned in TV Production classes, but I feel that the media is a bit vilified in the introduction. As a religious person, I feel that modern psychology has done aerial flips to avoid talking about evil, which is the elephant in the room here. The concept of sociopathy seems like one of those aerial flips to avoid labeling immortality and evil.
hi, please just one audio request, I have the videos volume on 10 for the parts where you dont talk and 3 where you are talking . Maybe its just my speakers but you are easily twice as loud as the other content other then that nothing else to add and great work ¬!
Just found this channel and already I am hooked. Fantastic breakdown of psychology here. Would love to see your take on the Shayna Hubers and Jodi Arias interrogations or classics like the Betty Broderick or Susan Smith cases.
Lucas Weatherby - And Caylee was found to be a molested child by a man. Also, the child was found wrapped in bedsheets from her bedroom in the grandparents home. The outcome for Casey Anthony was found Not Guilty.
@Wesley alan, that’s all you got?! Okay, Folks we have a bonafide SPELL checker. I think we need one for every video. Go out and multiply Spell Checker’s.😂
And remember your not just addressing this U.S. Europe has more or less, never heard of this case, for that reason, in future, context would be helpful. Thank you
Thanks for posting this! Halfway through, and I am stunned by.this woman. Beyond cold and.uncaring. Unreal. Good cops on this case. Kudos, gentlemen!✌😸
Juliette Lewis exists, and is a Hollywood actress Who had been employed by major studios at the time I believe I heard that she was employed by Universal sometime during Casey’s life, but was most unlikely to have known her in any way.
I hope you do an AMA someday. Are you one guy? A team of people working on these? Are you an editor as well as a cinematographer and also a forensic psychologist? I have so many questions.
TundrazZ R the American justice system is a joke. It allows murderers to walk free. It allows money to control it. It has jailed and executed innocent men and women. This isn’t a relitigation by any stretch of the imagination.
@JCS - Criminal Psychology I have questions though. I thought sociopaths are usually easy to get angry and have explosive anger while it's the psychopaths that are the calm ones, is that wrong? I'm still kinda new to these, so I wanna know.
I thought murder in the US was legal or a misdemeanor in the end. You just have to be a consistantly liar...not a good one. You also have a public with no critical thinking. Lawyers lie also. Pathetic.
I noticed you do a lot of cases In Florida. Not sure if this is the type of material you cover, but the Morgan Smith case had the weird sort of vibe many of your videos cover. I knew her personally from Milford CT where she was originally from. She had a horrid life and was mentally ill from a young age. She pled not guilty by insanity to shooting another woman in the head with a shotgun in, I believe, mayport Florida, I may be wrong. Knowing her personally made me wonder how they found her sane. Maybe something in the interrogation process? Just a suggestion/request from a new fan.
The introduction is BS. You have a better chance of being struck by lightning than having your child kidnapped or sex trafficked. THAT is why it makes the news. Almost all kids reported missing return home within a day. In the case of teen prostitution most are online and trafficking THEMSELVES! Legalize prostitution and check IDs.
This was amazing man, just subscribed. I hope you do one on Donald Trump some day, because with your analytical skills I'm sure you know he's a criminal as well as I do, and a fascinating one at that. The way he uses language has somehow managed to get him a seriously devout group of followers and he's clearly been laundering money for the last 30 years after he was a billion in debt. It's absolutely insane to me that nobody has held him accountable his entire life.
Of course - "Black/Hispanic". This is America. Failed Parenting: How can you allow your child to speak to you that way. Can't you say no to your child, can't you be a parent over friend. No? Here is the result. Let's reward your child for lying, failing at school, lying again by throwing a big party to support the lie. Here is your thanks Dad...You molested me. No consequences throughout her life. My ex was similar to this woman. My friend treats her daughter the exact same way fortunately her father doesn't. I want to see the Jury. Drowning in a pool...was there water in lungs.
@Hawkeye...life's a trip, ain't it?!?!😅 I know it's easy to mistrued things through text, especially in the comments section. If I was wrong in any way, I do apologize to anyone, you have a great day, my dude!✌
You always make really good videos; very informative. This particular case was absolutely horrific, but I always enjoying hearing your take on these things. I especially enjoyed your video on Stephanie Lazarus, but the intro that used to be there is there no longer. Is there a particular reason as to why that part has been cut? Would you be willing to add it back?
TundrazZ R ZERO respect for the so called Amerikkkan “Justice System” is exactly the amount of respect any sane DECENT person should have!When you can buy your freedom there is NO FUNCTIONING JUSTICE SYSTEM TO RESPECT
Thanks JCS. Where did you get this from? I often wonder, in particular, how interrogations get posted on YouTube. I know nothing about the law, and I find the interrogations interesting. I just thought there would be privacy laws or something. Appreciate all of your postings.
862,000 mothers hired assassins to crush the heads of their babies last year, and that has occurred every year since the 1970's. But because non-doctors, medically untrained individuals, who wear black cloaks called judges said there was no life present, none of the killers have been charged with the murders.
I thought I followed this case closely, when it was going on,..I thought that she probably did something to her daughter but the state hadn’t proved it... and that because of that the not guilty verdict was correct... because they didn’t prove beyond a doubt..... but now.. after hearing this.. which I had not before... I hadn’t heard any of this .. dammit I was wrong.. very wrong.. this young woman is a monster..a psychotic woman.. she is a cold manipulative evil mean person
I'm stunned the mental health professionals couldn't properly diagnose her with a personality disorder. She's clearly a pathological liar, if not someone with narcissistic or anti-social personality disorder as well.
@Big Jumbo agree part of all of us is shaped by our relationships and parents/guardians. But I keep thinking there are people who went through hell or on the flipside had parents like hers and have not killed their baby and deceived everyone so maliciously. It's interesting to me how people with similar lives can go on such different paths
This is absolutely absurd her attorney he's insane I almost hate his guts so much but the fact that he can manipulate the journey and give evidence ties there is no proof to be shown is why he's so good at his job
I was looking this up a month ago. What an American psyop and test to cognitive dissonance. So weird I'm drawn to this video after not looking for it after a month.
Wait till the word pedo-ring is attached to this. Poor girl at the hands of Florida woman
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The way Casey Anthony lies so eloquently and effortlessly and remains so calm and stoic makes me think she has a genius level IQ, like many serious killers.
Keep the videos coming. The way you break everything down and actually have all your facts correct is what sets you apart !! Love the videos please make more .. how about Drew Peterson
On the 911 call Casey lies and said she spoke to Caylee for a moment. And garbage smells a lot different from a dead body. Why does she get away with murder?
@jmthill why are u @ me in this, out of 432 comments, most of which were far more aggressive/abrasive than mine? No, we don't "need to lay off him," as internet comment sections are a place to express whatever opinions may be out there. The comment got many opposing responses because many people do not agree with the comment.
JCS - Criminal Psychology. There is no question in my mind that Casey was involved in Caylee’s death. While the proof is circumstantial it cannot be denied as Casey’s reaction or reflex was recorded during the trial on TV. I have an example of something that has happened to me that was similar and I’m sure that perhaps some of your viewers may have had a similar experience. Please hear me out, & as it should make some sense. It is a phenomena or reflex that humans have. There is no denying it. I’m not a psychologist but what I’m about to say makes sense. I was traveling down the interstate in Florida on the way to a client which I usually do every 3 to 4 weeks when I had to use the restroom. I pulled off the hwy at the next gas station which was an Exxon station alone on a hill across the interstate. I pulled in, walked into the store and then into the restroom. It had one enclosed toilet and urinal. I was immediately hit with a odor so bad that it nearly knocked my breath away when I walked in the restroom. My first instinct was to run out; however, I had some unfinished business. I knew there was only on service station at this exit. I peeked into the toilet and found it was stopped up with towels and crap. I tried to hold my breath which did no good to suppress the smell while I used the urinal. I was getting the dry heaves from the smell. I got out of there as soon as I could. It smelt bad, really bad but I was out of there and gave it no more thought, Approximately 3-4 weeks later I was traveling to my same client and I noticed that same Exxon station when the same feeling came over me in the car as I was passing it by like a reflex, the smell and the dry heaves started again just by the sight of this same gas station, It was if I was back in that filthy restroom. And each time every 3-4 weeks I came through this spot the feeling came back; however, over time the feeling did lessen. There must be a name for this reflex. I don’t know it, not being a psychologist. Well Casey had the same reflex when the prosecution showed in court the slide of the opened trunk of the vehicle the police thought Caylee was stored in. In court on TV Casey had the dry heaves and had to be led out of the court room at that time. I was surprised nobody in court took notice of the timing of her abrupt illness with the showing of the picture of the trunk. The picture of the trunk unconsciously (like a reflex) reminded her of the horrific smell of her dead daughter in the trunk. The smell was probably taken in by Casey when she moved Caylee’s body. Casey had to have been there for her abrupt illness to show on TV. Her death may have been an accident we may never know but it was covered up by her mother and maybe others for 31 days. It’s sad, very, very sad. She can’t be held accountable due to the double jeopardy clause.
I( thought this channel had a video on Alek minassians police interrogation????? maybe it was another channel but I could have sworn it was this one. I thought it was called "The psychology of an incel"
You should do one on Christopher McNabb. Covington, Georgia, United States. Killed his newborn daughter in a meth rage, then concocted a story that someone broke in and took her. Oh yeah, the baby's mother was the fathers first cousin. A methed up situation!
I got stories for you about American kids being dragged into CRUEL PERVERSE GENOCIDE OF RJEIR FAMILIES DUE TO rampant Corruption in Ecuadorian government and courts.
I would be interested in comparing women being interviewed by women vs men. Not saying anything particular about this, but wonder what your thoughts are. It seems like some female suspects try to use coy or cute banter on male interrogators whereas it would be less effective on a female investigator.
Love both channels! Stephanie Harlowe is awesome and True Crime Loser is hilarious! I didn't know until the other day that he actually does stand-up comedy! In Maryland. I bet he is a riot.
I don’t understand how people can lie so much and easily. Like where do you make this up? How big of an imagination can you have? I can’t lie to save my life...
Munchausen syndrome by proxy (MSP) -- or Munchausen by proxy -- is a psychological disorder marked by attention-seeking behavior by a caregiver through those who are in their care. MSP is a relatively rare behavioral disorder. It affects a primary caretaker, often the mother. This is to gratify her attention-seeking, she does not care or even talking about her child. notice she uses I a lot
Would you please make another one telling the result of the jury who was arrested by the judge? Do you think it influenced the other jury to form the final result? My opinions about the possible reasons are: 1. Jury make mistake. Jesus was wrong convicted three times by the jury. Many innocents have been wrongly convicted by the jury and some have been wrongly executed. 2. It is harmless for her to be in our society. 3. The key point was one of jury was arrested. Other jury re-evaluated the standard to convicted the crime and if the criminal system should be simply punished system, or should be based on the danger to the society, or should let the pure accident move on?
@timeWaster76 I don’t think so. I think only about her parents there is emotion. Nothing about the baby tho. What’s up with her parents? I’m only half way through tho. Ugggg she even got bail? Omg
@2manybooks 2littletime omg.. I wanna look into that too! What happened to the lady and if the girl knew her or how she got her name or whatever. Spot on. I totally caught the Juliet actress girl immediately. Probably admired her ugg. What was dumb was the story about the nanny working for the guy that didn’t even have a kid! Now since she’s so brilliant.. that was a ridiculous guy to use. What she didn’t think they would look into him? First time watching her. Of course I heard the horrible story but hearing and watching her is absolutely mind blowing.
@Sosa Okeef Totally horrific: but she will have to face Almighty God one day to give an account of WHY she murdered her beautiful baby: a precious gift from Him!!!??? 😰😢😭
@Kimbo Slice Casey Anthony saw a list of applicants for an apartment complex and saw the name Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales on the list. I don't remember the reason why Casey was there in the first place - perhaps applying for an apartment there herself? Casey wasn't only a pathological liar, she had a memory like nobody else. She outplayed everyone! The prosecution had only circumstantial evidence. The jury found her not guilty because the prosecution lacked a solid motive, they said. An actual cause of death also couldn't be determined because of the decomposed flesh. They only had Caylee's skeletal remains. (And the duct tape around the mouth and nose of the skull).
sociopathic parents create sociopathic parent...and so it goes... what I'm curious about is the grandparents-were they sickos too? Was only the one parent of Casey sick and the other just went along with indulging Casey's lies as a child, creating a conscienceless monster?
Wtf!! She's let go no charges? Not a single charge? What about hiding the body of the child? American Justice system is so flawed! Jury system must be ended!!😑😑
I still can't believe the jury came to the conclusion they did and she got an acquittal Casey Anthony is as guilty as Sin but she will reap what she sews in the afterlife
You know what, I LOVE this channel and the content produced. Easily the best True Crime content on the internet. BUT I almost feel like boycotting this channel because you guys don't upload anywhere near enough. You've got 1.5M subs and 8M views on this video alone, at what point does it become socially irresponsible haha. Jokes lol, but for real. The channel is much loved obviously, it has an AMAZING opportunity to excel and grow 10 fold but you're just not uploading enough and giving the people what they want. I mean, surely the leader of this channel knows how important this opportunity is and how much of a quality platform this is to grow into something important, but yet, videos still only get done once a month. With 1.5M subs, you definitely are making more than enough to do Youtubing as a job. Pick your game up Jim!!! Love your work though haha!
I love white people, oh if pretty and middle class even a monster we cannot allow this narrative.. if a person of color that's ok we want to keep all believing it's natural for them to commit crimes. If white woman let's over analyze look into the psychology of her mind rather then hold her accountable,, anything to maintain false squeaky clean image of a white woman..jury prepaid pre selected and pre decision go research all the jurors they got paid. All of you are complete fools if you think they didn't have concrete evidence to completely put her away all the major mistakes and no planning this woman did
@babyblue Mr President the sore looser u let America down never hated u but was extremely disappointed in the way u abandoned us during the crisis let alone lost faith in our system betraying the people yet again by false claims of fraud. Our government is not a fraud ,we as Americans follow by your example and you good sir failed to give us a worthy one to follow.... probably not the real one term President but what the hell.
Casey father is also Caylee s father. That is the big ugly secret her lawyer was talking about. The other mysterious crafted father who died in a car accident is another lie. Case closed..
Can you do Mitchell Blair, the women who tortured an killed then froze her children's body.....i am addicted to your channel. First one i would actually become a patreon for
The parents should be ashamed. This lady should never been allowed to get away with this. I don't see how any sane person could allow this women to get away with this. Lies from the beginning to end
I would love if you could delve into the tragic case of Gabriel Fernandez. You have shown things in this case (Casey Anthony) I've never seen... And I've watched ALOT on this case. I would love to see what you can dig up on poor poor Gabriel. My heart still holds on to that little boy that was failed by so many in charge of keeping him safe.
The best criminal investigative videos on YouTube. I hope you can continue to make more, and I hope they are monetized for you. You have done great work!
It's interesting that when she was found not guilty, her family did not look relieved or cry or anything. They were stonefaced. Because they know she's guilty.
ParkourBear I’ve seen something more recent.. a dateline or 20/20 episode maybe.. and then they did a dr oz episode, Her parents haven’t spoken to her since she was released but her dad wrote her a letter that he was ready to reconcile. That was 2019, not sure what came of it. And Casey has supposedly played the role of being “born again”.. and turned Christian. You can google them.. there are actually quite a few interviews in 2018/2019. Her dad has been in a near fatal car accident.. a lot went down but both parents still believe Casey is guilty.
@Parkour no lie my old hr was a babysitter to her when she was little and knew the parents in Ohio. She said they were so loving and nice. I honestly believe they are broken hearted still with the way she talked about them. Small world . I couldn't believe it
seeingeyegod nobody believes that story, thankfully.
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At some point, the family basically decided to help her get out of jail. Maybe I'm just cold, but if my kid was a murderer, I would want them in prison and I would never speak to them again. I'd hand over a stack of evidence too.
@DinkleDigeroo Yeah, dad's stone-faced reaction surprised me. I would've expected his jaw to drop and his eyes to bug out of his head and impale the skull of the guy sitting in front of him.
His acquiescence truly shocked me. Perhaps he did agree to the scheme? I have no idea.
I don't have kids. I imagine if I did I'd do anything for them. But THAT is a pretty steep price to pay.
@M T His statement after the verdict sounded like "ah... well there technically wasn't a false conviction so that's true... I did too good of a job... I really didn't think this was going to work."
@Kel B if my kid did what Casey did, I would too. In a heartbeat. It's fucked up what they did. Loving your kid isn't helping them get away with murdering their child.
@Debra Congram Why do you keep calling her a schizo as an insult? No one who has any idea what schizophrenia is would think that Casey Anthony has it. I hope that those who are unfortunate enough to suffer from the debilitating illness that is schizophrenia don't have to read your ignorant comments.
A B Nooooo, its not. Its their job to analyze facts and present them to the court in the best interests of their clients. Its a job and you should do your job well. He did his job very well... With that said... She totally killed that kid though.
The dad was so torn up at one point,he drove out of town to a motel and attempted suicide,but the mom had a horrible feeling and called rescue to check on him so he was saved! They are united forever in tragedy that none of us could imagine! I pray for them!
McNulty's Sober Companion It’s pretty evident he knew what was going to be said. They planned to go in that direction. Remember the lawyer she had was expensive and suspected to be paid by her parents smh
@Kelly Do you have a link? Thank you for your comment. My son, Jonathan, was killed 2-10-17 & it's been hard on our marriage. Much different circumstances, I realize; but Casey would be dead to me for making the choices that put everyone where the are now. In the grave and at each other's throats...
Kel B I think that in theory, that would have been justice for Caylee. However, even just looking at my own parents I think it is pretty unlikely you will see parents from a family like that turn on their own child as sad as it is. Especially with a child as manipulative and dominating as Casey seemed to be to them. If I’m completely honest, I’m almost surprised that her parents were confident enough to show the skepticism that they did because I’m sure Casey ruled that household and got whatever she wanted no consequences.
The dad actually attempted suicide after they found Caylee's body. He wrote a note saying "I need to be with Caylee". That shit is heartbreaking. And then to be falsely accused of child molestation during your own daughter's trial ('falsely' because there wasn't a shred of evidence. Literally, the defence never brought it up again after the opening statement) I don't know how anybody can feel anything other than pity for the guy. What a fucking unfortunate life to marry a narcissist and bear a psychopath.
DinkleDigeroo no, he was stone faced bc they already knew this was going to be the accusation made against him. None of this was new or shocking to them. They knew in their hearts their narcissistic daughter murdered their granddaughter and would say anything to appear the victim, and they did not help her escape justice. It was clear even before the trials that they believed she killed Caylee and they did what they could to help law enforcement while also being hounded by the media at every turn.
Lauren W idk where you saw that cause the last thing I heard was her father wants nothing to do with her ever again but Cindy does talk to her every once in awhile.
@McNulty's Sober Companion I agree, he was very persuasive given the circumstance that everything was not on their side, he made it work. Pity, he defended her case. Though this case made him famous, a lot of people hated him for it. But then again, I doubt he regreted taking it since it made him a high-profile lawyer
id also like to add that this whole thread and comment section is stupid. try to remember that you guys have to relevance to this case and that your opinion doesn't really matter and that this is the internet, ight?
Does she eat m&m’s? It seems the that mountain was really big and it might of had trails and such that showed the diagram to the safe. How could all of that been hidden when there were so many m&m’s thrown around on the tile. People kept stepping on them and then shoving the albums in a box with the dolls that just arrived from Argentina. I kept watching but nothing moved so the plates just showed up and then everyone filled out the form and just sat there shining there shoes at picking all the leaves that were about to fall and share there story. It was wild.
It's interesting for her, in a sense : she probably never cared about her parents, and they will certainly disown her, shun her... She won't have to take care of them in their older days
We don't convict people based on a family being "stone-faced", which could mean anything. Maybe they just had Taco Bell and weren't close enough to a bathroom!
I think the case needs to be reopened and she needs to take reaponsibility for her actions! I hope her nights are full of her daughters untested screams and that she finds herself feeling overwhelmed with guilt to the point her happiness is more like a nightmare! I have a 3 year old son, and he is a handful, and no i can't do what i want, but the time i spend with him, i juat feel so complete. So again, this case just absolutely makes me so angry!
What did the dad being a pedo have to do with her killong her daughter anyways!!?? Seems like casey might have done some extra work to get off the line if you know what i mean.
@M T her family didn't pay for the attorney!! He did it for free cuz it was a high profile case!! he knew that he could get her off he would be famould & make millions. A Private investigator said that she paid him off tru sexual favors, think she even lived with him after the trial too.
@Parkour i saw a documentary some time ago where they mentioned how after Casey was released, an officer was going to stay at her home, where her parents also lived. The first night, the officer said how he heard screams outside his room & saw Casey's dad "choking her with his hands while asking her what happened to Caley" you can search for updates on her btw
@OuroborosWorm it's not. It's a personality disorder which means it's a type of personality that exists while the person is completely sane. That's why serial killers, who are always psychopaths, are never being convinced as being mentally ill, because they're not.
@Kevin w How were they shitty? I mean apart from all this drama they seemed like good people. But yeah supporting the sociopath they had as a daughter wasn't a good idea
OuroborosWorm I am a schizophrenic. Thank you for standing up for me:) I really wish people would realize schizophrenia has NOTHING to do with being a sociopath. I am a very loving person with a big family and I would never do anything remotely close to what Casey has done. So thank you again.
Yup but knowing what we know now we know what happened to her daughter she was.sold and.sacrificed nicolodian, Juliette.lewis in the conversation too yup she may have killed her,sacrificed her,or sold her and the MSM put this story in our faces she worked at universal studios are you.kidding me wow!
@Joan Morgan bli think she blames her mother for "making her "have" to kill Caylee. Since everything is not her fault,of course. I bet anything,that she's angry at her mother and holding it against her.lol. "look what YOU made me do,because I criticized my mothering skills"blah blah blah"wouldn't of happened if u didn't threaten to take custody"
Will never understa d y prosecution didn't go with the obvious,which was..that she planned to kill her parents before caylees birthday.slzhHer parents were the only link for forcing her to produce her daughter which they would have done by Caylees birthday. They would have fulinally insisted.Caylee had made plans w her friend to move in after caylees birthday,told her friend Amy Huizenga that parents r divorcing and giving her the house in a few weeks., to take over mortgage payments. I believe she had planned to kill her parents. Also she made up a friend Juliette Lewis.Juliette Lewis is the actress in Natural Bron killers movie,where two heartless young adults go on killing rampage.
Egypt Cat of Denial She ain't my child........and anyone who kills their own flesh and blood and in the circumstances she did......I think calling her a "Creature" is quite tame!
DinkleDigeroo if you’re allowed in court you’re not allowed to make faces or noises that would sway the jury one way or the other... the father knew it was coming that day but wasn’t allowed to be anything other than stone face.
@Aris Gouvas I was pretty damned angry at that part too.... Is that lawyer allowed to make such a big accusation without presenting any evidence??? That's a big allegation right there that can ruin lives even of proven false afterwards.
DinkleDigeroo I read that Cindy and George were told in advance that Jose was going to say that. They were advised not to react. People are always told not to react, which makes it hard to tell if someone is innocent or guilty. I personally believe George never molested Casey. Casey just told so many lies said it’s impossible to believe her about anything.I despise her and cannot believe that she is living in West Palm with a private investigator. Why does anyone feel sorry for this girl?
gjaeigjiajeg I am pretty sure it was one of the books, either Baez’s or Jeff Ashton’s book. Been a while since I read them. I read so much stuff on this case I can’t remember where some of it came from. And I hate the fact that she gets to work for a private investigator at least she was doing that a couple years ago. That’s some thing I would love to do and she gets to do it??
@Trivia Totsy her?! As a private investigator?! Her???? Like I ask her to follow my wife to see if she's cheating and I'll get a vivid account of everything and all the names that my wife is seeing of people who don't exist lol!!
gjaeigjiajeg LMAO! Yeah she’s got quite the imagination! She supposedly does research. I feel like there’s no Karma sometimes. She has a place to live and a job!
@Trivia Totsy I actually believe in God, so karma isn't really part of my beliefs. I would say injustice in the likes of these situations are what really turns people away from God (heck, if she accepts Jesus, she will be saved still). This is the part where we can only trust him to do what's right. Even if it's within His plan to save her soul. She still has a chance to repent and atone.
@Trivia Totsy I firmly believe God will restore and for little children like Caylee, she will be with the Lord. For she was innocent and was not in the position to reject Jesus before she was taken away. Or maybe just my wishful thinking. Guess we'll know when we die or if Jesus returns, whichever comes first.
I do believe in justice if that's what you're talking about. But I also accept that justice doesn't always come about in a format that we comprehend or prefer. We'd just need to trust and obey that this is not in our control. Sounds like I'll be meeting you one day in heaven. Remember to come and say hi.
@Trivia Totsy with all the shit going down around the world, especially America... Qanon rising, elites getting arrested to usher in a new government in guise that it is for the greater good to take control of the whole world.... Hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but hey, it seems to align with biblical prophesies!! Better be prepared just in case. As Jesus said, no one knows the day nor the hour, but we need to keep watch and pray as always.
And if she could get away with a murder of her good and innocent daughter where all the facts line against her.. I'm sure they are scared she could come after them next after they voted against her innocence
@DinkleDigeroo Very abnormal. Did you notice the psychological abuse by both of her parents during the phone visit? Look closely. The dad's body language after her Mother ask are we going to find her? Is extremely odd. As if he was trying to distance himself from the question and nervous by picking his nails.
@Janneke Gerritsen What if he abused his grand daughter too? He did say in the phone visit "I wish I was a better dad and I wish I was a better grandpa, you know. Watch it again.
@Debra Congram They were trying to save the one that was alive. You have to remember they were her parents FIRST before they became grandparents. They saved her life and they felt they owed her nothing after that, especially pointing them like abusive parents after the loving childhood they must have given her.
@McNulty's Sober Companion He went in on the story to save her, or was probably doing that to her. Either way ,the negativity they would get from this would ruin their marriage
I imagine her accusing her old man of sexually abusing her from age eight to wriggle out of a murder conviction might have coloured their judgement of her somewhat.
All crooked..when you lie so much, you lose touch with reality, and with that, real, appropriate for the situation emotions. RIP Caylee. Just Casey’s voice just makes the hair on my skin stand....God help her.
@liberty It was a crap storm of lies..what’s disheartening is the fact that the psychologists on this case didn’t see anything wrong with her..now who’s the crazy ones? The system there is broken, corrupt and out of control. The good are bad, the bad are good. I just didn’t care for living there anymore where that case is. It reeks of bad vibes, too much crime, the news focuses on it.
@Robyn Daniels Desperate. Either way if it’s true or regardless, all of their issues run deep. They all needed help and the partying and lack of responsibilities spiraled out of control and an innocent life was lost. I don’t have to be Jose Baez to twist that around. That’s the truth and in this case, like many, the law protects the criminals.
@mydogsioux That would be a good topic to explore. I’m currently reading some books on racism. In my opinion, a lot about the system in that area is broken. I know from personal experience. Basically it came down to get away from there. I do not think justice has been served. And the law protects the criminals there and therefore, it makes for a less safe place to live don’t you think? I moved two years ago. I do believe the case is still open though. It was a sensationalized mess. From what someone said, the way Casey says “I don’t know what happened” it’s as though she is in denial. So she took those events completely out of her mind in order to live with herself. Because like most narcissists or sociopaths, to have to look in the mirror and assume responsibility is more difficult than living a lie. RIP Caylee. You deserve more than that.
@Frances Lindsay if you're interested there are a bunch of books I could recommend but I'll just start with 2. The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander and Chokehold by Paul Butler. Both are extremely compelling reads. They break down the systemic racism inherent in the justice system. Paul Butler is a former prosecutor and has first hand knowledge of the system. Michelle Alexander is brilliant. I'm not a person of color but I'm trying to be a good ally. When you realize what people of color are up against it's a sobering new reality.
@mydogsioux it is. I’ve seen it as long as I can remember. I’m reading White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo right now and will read Make Change by Shaun White after. The case of Quawan Charles, a 15 yr old Louisiana boy is also happening right now. Not to get off subject..but yes, injustice. Everywhere. And people who say stop protesting or I don’t get it..they need to open their eyes. Thank you for those book recommendations. I will read them.
@Frances Lindsay I read White Fragility! Such an engrossing book. I'm unfamiliar with the case you referred to going on now, but I will definitely look it up thanks! I'm guessing you have some stories to tell... I hope you know that there are people who are trying to change the system. It's a shame where we are considering the breadth of human knowledge. I hope people don't stop protesting because that's the only way things will change. It's a shame that people aren't leveraging the power of labor unions. Historically unions were powerful forces for equality back before social justice was even a thought. If we leveraged strikes against corporate America you'd better believe they'd be on the phone with every politician in their pocket. I think it's a missed opportunity. I had a professor who constantly reminded us of how being poor impacts a person's health. It literally destroys people.
@OuroborosWorm I agree 💯. I'm borderline schizophrenic, and I'm used to the negative stigma that the diagnosis carries, but I appreciate someone else pointing it out.
@annie10103 I agree with you. He’s the only one who seemed to have a genuine heart and some sense. The way the media made him out to be the bad guy was terrible. And Cindy is ridiculous.
@RomyArg30 why is it always the parents who are responsible? Did they send her to murderer training school and read her crime stories every night?
Is it not possible that sometimes there are other reasons, or even unknown reasons why someone turns out to be a murderer? So many people are quick to judge and blame people just for the sake of it with no knowledge of the circumstances.
I know this might be reaching but I honestly think there was inside corruption with this verdict and that they were somehow involved. They knew she was going to get away with it
Here's the thing though. Casey's defense brought up that her father had molested her when she was a child, so at that point their whole family has fallen apart.
So either that was true, or she just lied about her father being a horrible man, and they probably wouldn't be happy with her for that on top of the fact they finally learned what a piece of shit their daughter was.
Either way, it added even more to their lack of joy at their daughter's verdict, on top of absolutely knowing that she killed her daughter to go be a party girl.
is no one gonna bring up the fact that the parents were literally told not to show any emotion?? if they did, they’d be kicked out. that’s why they were stone-faced.
From Bailey Sarian's video on this case, she said that her parents weren't allowed to show any emotion because it would deter or influence the jury. I didn't do any research myself, though, so don't take my word as fact lol.
@Janneke Gerritsen wasn’t it proven false? She lied to put the blame for murdering her child onto him. She blamed him bc she knew he knew she was guilty and her mom went along with it
Actually, the parents were only allowed to be in the courtroom if they promised to show no emotion, so they had to contain it all. It’s not that they weren’t affected, it’s just that if they reacted, they would be asked to leave.
Actually the only way the parents were allowed to be in court was because they couldn’t show emotion and if they did they had to leave bc they were witnesses
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
@Parkour didn't they literally accuse the Dad of sexually abusing Casey like damn. And he spent his life as a police officer and saw so much death that he recognized the smell of a dead person that's so sad.
@M T Her parents did not hire her attorney. She was "hooked up" with Jose Baez through her attorney named Adrea Lyon, She was working the case for free "pro bono". Believe it or not they did a good job of having Casey declared indigent or "broke" which gave her access to public money from the state to secure Jose as the lead defense. She also struck a deal with ABC television for $200k for her story and pictures. $75k was privately donated to her legal defense. At the time of the trial Jose had been paid $85k for his defense and had put over 2500 hours into the case. but in the end $275k was spent in her defense BUT the total bill is nearly $700k...
@Laura Athena did u know Casey’s father is a police detective officer? Did u also know that the three of them (Anthony, Casey and her mother) already knew what was going to be the veredict? But they could at least have put some surprised faces or cry so it doesn't look so obvious don't you think? Looks like the detective father forgot about that detail.
@seeingeyegod Good. Every day should be a struggle for that family.
Every minute of every hour should be as stressful as Callie's final minutes, forever, until they die. I hope their neighbors and town know who they are.
@M T i guess it’s fine. It’s better to have 1 loss for the family than 2. Parents can go far worse like helping to dissect and hide bodies. It’s quite common scenario and has to be understood.
@OuroborosWorm get out of here talk police, you are yourself a damage with your sensitivity, everybody understands what is meant when someone is called a shizo it is supposed to shame someone and it is a good thing to shame bad behavior
@Tau Vid I'm not going to bother commenting on your police and sensitivity nonsense, but it's a shame that someone so closely affected by mental health finds empathy and compassion so difficult.
@Lauren W of course she turned Christian. It fits the I'll person. Jeez, the American trial system is such a bad one to me, with the jury and all of that bull*hit. Leave the big decision to the experts, judges, not the regular hillbilly people who watch television and are easily manipulated.
This was really hard to watch. I mean, there's no doubt about her being guilty, the kid is dead, she didn't ask for help, the note, the Google search, her behavior... But no. Her publicist/lawyer just got her out because he is well-spoken. Well, fuc*ing well done to him and the monster's parents for paying for such a great service (while the ungrateful horse-looking monster used them as an excuse to build up her case, like she needed to destroy the family just a bit more).
I just can't believe this, sorry guys. This is really sickening.
@OuroborosWorm because I am affected and I know what it means and I understand that calling someone a shizo that behaves shizo is a perfect fit, who are you to tell me? If you are stupid I will call you stupid and not be American and talk around your problem of stupid choices, wtf is wrong with you guys overseas that you are not willing to tell someone he is behaving wrong or going a wrong path with his life choices don’t you love the people around you so that you let them go the wrong way, what the heck is this culture
@Tau Vid I understand your point, but Casey Athony shows absolutely zero schizophrenic symptoms. She definitely shows psychopathic symptoms though. That is my problem with labelling her "schizo", nothing else. I'm Irish, not American.
@McNulty's Sober Companion most law-systems are not about whos right, but as you say who can lawyer better. Gotta say, the guys right, it cannot be fully proven beyond ANY and ALL doubt.
But damn bro, theres a huge-ass, literal GIANT FUCKING PILE of evidence which all speaks against her (not even to mention her endless lies and weird-behaving shit. But, he was even smart enough to counter that one out with claiming it was an accident and such...)
@Parkour i live around them and it was absolute hell for them. to this day people still drive past their house like it's a tourist attraction. people would go to their house and brawl and harass them. one time i remember i was at church and the anothonys were there, people in the church kept whispering and gossiping about them. the father got so upset that he stood up, threw the bible, yelled a bunch and then stormed out.
@McNulty's Sober Companion i think 99% of people are sure, that it was a setup, and the family knew about the thousandth lie in the row. As the video states, it was the move, that saved Casey from death sentence and even lead to freedom.
@McNulty's Sober Companion what annoyed me alot in watching the videos on this channel was that apparently there sometimes textbook-lines that you basicly have to paraphrase to be able to have a good defence later. It shouldnt be about who worded stuff better (to the point of basicly also lying) it should be about who is right.
But you label it well, its the price we pay. No system is perfect, and I think the one we have is still pretty good.
Yeah crazy what shes capable of, which Im not sure how to put it, but also makes me feel sorry for her in a weird way. Not sure whats the correct term for this, but I feel actually bad that there are people like that. I wouldnt wanna be like that. I mean being able of cold-blooded murder is one thing, but your own kids? If I put myself in her shoes, I'd prolly hate myself to the point of actual suicide (even before her murders). damn
@George 'Foreman' Grill I know this was ten months ago, but yikes……. If somebody is learning English (assuming they don’t know enough English to actually speak it clearly), don’t shame them by calling them names. What if we start shaming you for not knowing a language, calling you names and all. Call me sensitive, but this is truly disrespectful.
@B33f Panda It is improper and churlish to label someone as "PC Police". We should remove the stigma around people who report PC crimes to the general online community.
@David Himmelfahrt Sure, but I wouldn't spend my entire life waiting for them to. I don't believe psychopaths get better tbh. Especially if I know they got away with it.
This is what happens when you let your kids get away for anything. These brats will even use you later you save their skin which the daughter did. She killed her own child and also ruined her parents. I am sure Cassey doesn't had any remorse for anything and must be living an amazing life. These things made me feel that we live in hell and most of the bad people are living best lives mostly.
@c Are overworked and underpaid civil servants who are always busy and mentally strained. They have to take all the cases good or bad given to them. Not like a Defense attorney who many times picks and chooses what cases they take. The atmosphere in their law office is calm and quiet. Its what all the money they make provides.
That's very interesting. And yeah they know, I think as soon as this babysitter/kidnapper was proven to be not real, it was out the window. This shit cray 🤬
@Parkour her father is a creep and knows more than he’s letting on. He is an ex cop, a professional liar. Even police that I know would phrase it that way if asked.
@Holt Burdette or any child for that matter. I'd still visit them, but only if they're behind bars. Love them while they face their consequences as we all rightly should.
They weren’t aloud to show emotions in court, they originally weren’t aloud to show up at court but because they are family they were aloud but only if they weren’t to show emotions they could come.
English is not my first language so I thought I didn't understand it right. So her attorney did accuse her father of molesting her as a child and he just took the blame???
@Harry Ioder how could I ever thank you grammar police I use talk text that's why and I didn't proofread it but thanks for your pointing that out to me 👌
I'm pretty sure that's because her parents where asked to not show any emotion during the trial or they would be barred from attending the trail (since they're both witnesses and close family)
@B33f Panda Well schizo and maybe even psycho (psychopaths and sociopaths aren't the same) are flat out wrong as descriptors, so if you're gonna have a problem with her being politically correcting, she's actually factually correcting as well.
Gets a lot worse when you find out more details about things that went on with the family during the whole thing. Like how George Anthony was found in a hotel room about to attempt suicide in Daytona Beach at one point. We talked to Lee offering to distribute flyers around Daytona Beach when we lived there. Talked to him briefly and told him of our daughter. He declined. And the next day police showed up at our apt to take pictures to prove our daughter wasn't Caylee. It was crazy. Just the overall tone from talking to him, though. We could tell.. they knew. They knew she knew and that the truth was most likely just too devastating than they wanted to admit.
@TheDude_59 Dude.. she's a psychopath, she doesn't hate herself. She's happy that she got away with it, what she hates is when people say the truth or bring up her daughter.
All they needed to do was punish her or atleast make her feel bad for lying in her childhood which they didn't. This made her think she can get away with anything even murder.
@RandomChristianMusings So sorry to hear of your suffering. I'd like to suggest a book called "The Blessing of a Broken Heart" written by a mother whose son was murdered. I haven't read the book but based on reviews, it should be helpful. May you find consolation.
@S. A. You’re right, of course they knew and agreed to it. Horrible deception by the both of them. But then, she's their daughter so it's not surprising.
Those parents created this monster. They coddled her from childhood and I’m sure they shoulder a serious amount of regret and guilt. At least I hope. That’s repentance.
@McNulty's Sober Companion Dad must hv been onto the scheme. Omg... but they must hv said : "we lost granddaughter, we're not losing daughter as well!!" (...) Incredibly sick whole story!!
@c re: lawyer carisma. yeah! but narcissist or psyco/sociopaths can also hv that!! Sooo... to me this carisma is sick. That little girl's demise was...in...vain! 😪😪😪
@Cody F. obviously it was a ploy... if she was abused by her dad she'd hv done smth about it before that trial, or even after... but no one knew about it until that revelation in court!!?
Everyone knows shes guilty, even the judges, defendant did a so good job talking about 'evidence' which wasn't there, there were evidence that she did it, but a certain type of evidence wasn't there.
@George 'Foreman' Grill tell me that was a joke...superfluous means essentially "not needed"...it has nothing to do with the flu. I hope that was a lame joke.
@M T they absolutely didn’t get Baez for her, or pay him. He took the case on for publicity (which absolutely worked), I believe on a “you only owe me if we win” deal.
There was a huge uproar about her owing him hundreds of thousands of dollars afterward. A different member of her legal team claimed that she’d begun sleeping with him in exchange for money off the debt.
@OuroborosWorm im pretty sure someone suffering from schizophrenia has much thicker skin and many more things to deal with than getting offended by someone using the word schizo in a comment thread dude.
@Lea Doug Do you suffer from it? What makes you "pretty sure"? It's about denormalising shit attitudes, poor knowledge, and ignorance, surrounding mental health.
@Christine Tookey I think i would literally rather die/ go away to prison for years/ be stripped naked and paraded around town before i had the audacity/ disrespect to say that about my father. Like my dad aint the greatest of guys (he gets a 6.5/10 for his parenting skills) but man, that is some next level low life shit to say that about your own father to try get out of punishment for killing your daughter. Apparently its really hard to slit your own throat but dude watch how fast id be able to do it before i said that about my father.
@Lea Doug I think you're missing the bigger picture, in all honesty. Mental illness encompasses many different disorders. Why would ignorance and prejudice around any of those disorders be a good thing? Why wouldn't you want people to be more knowledgeable and understanding of the subject? I don't have schizophrenia, no, but that's not really the point. I appreciate that your brother is unfazed by, and uninterested, in stigma, but that certainly isn't the case for all schizophrenics. You really think that all sorts of people with various mental illnesses don't suffer from unfair treatment in society? As someone who suffers from mental illness, I think that education and stigma reduction is a great thing. You're certainly allowed your opinion though.
@Rocketship Well, yes, you know that she is, and I know that she is, but it couldn't be that obvious to everyone else if they're calling her a "schizo".
Her parents were instructed to show no emotion so that’s why they had none when the verdict was read and then they left fairly quickly. I saw numerous interviews with both the prosecutor and the Anthony’s saying as much. Just fyi.
Especially after what she did to her own family. Killing her child, merrily lying about it and chatting up anyone about stupid things, saying talking with her concerned and crying friend that talking to her was a waste of time, and falsely accusing her own father of gross sex abuse, all to drum up sympathy for her pathological lying, it is despicable. No wonder her family didn't show relief when she was let off. She had put them through hell already. And does she care? Of course not. Ugh!
Listen to “last podcast on the left: casey Anthony”
The lawyer and casey actually slept together many a times Not to mention they have her whole profile From the enabling sociopathic behavior learned from casey’s mom To caseys father who was so passive about such behavior
I don't know if it's covered in this video (just started watching), but in other videos where her parents were interviewed, they are INCREDIBLY guarded. They KNOW something. And when you watch the father, who is a retired cop, you can tell he KNOWS that whatever happened to his grand-daughter, the lying, manipulating little psychopath he helped raise is somehow involved. And Casey's fake breeziness....that to me is another sign. All inadmissible in court as evidence, but sometimes you just know when someone is guilty and Casey is as guilty as sin.
@Taylor Hanes - what’s all this talk about mental health classifications anyway? Why is having a borderline personality synonymous with psychosis - and for the people having schizophrenia- I am pretty certain that those who used this crippling disease weren’t aware that you’d see you as you really are, because it’s already slang for being unwell, but in a different way than they see it. So sorry you guys got the bad rap. It’s a horrible situation to be ln
@Tau Vid - because it’s the wrong word and it has nothing to do with being from the USA, (which is the Country you referred to, not a geographical body of land - that is a Continent) and your typing in English.
Her mom is in extreme denial. It's so bad. Watch interviews w Cindy. At least the dad has admitted Casey did something, but doesn't think it was intentional
What I don't get, is how can you do that to YOUR OWN INNOCENT FATHER IN FRONT OF THE WORLD to save you when you killed your child?! Ok she's evil, BUT HOW COME him and her mother are QUIETLY sitting in the courtroom and listening to this?!!!! ACCEPTING basically to be dragged in the mud? I just don't get it. Obviously it's a disgusting lie from the lawyer to gain sympathy for CA and to explain why she lies all the time... but HOW can her parents, after everything they have done for her, support her, helping her with Caley (that's what CA tell them while in jail)... how can they COMPLY with that defense?? And not come forward and say it's total BS! It's the only time CA can't even hold crying, while her lawyer is stating that horrible accusation, because she's so ashamed TO TARNISH HER DAD... but it's necessary to HER defense. It makes no sense, because her mother wouldn't be sitting next to her father if it was true, and shouldn't support CA if it's not! They even comply with the drowning theory and that they all covered it???? I don't get all that... they should have been KEY WITNESSES for Caley.
Did anyone else notice that Casey said her daughter "was" a lucky girl, then quickly corrected herself to saying "is" a lucky girl to have grandparents that were great. This was when her parents visited her at the prison. To me that's indicative of her guilt because she knew that her daughter was dead. Casey is vile.
Did you watch the video? Just because she knew she was dead, doesn’t mean she was guilty of murdering her. Obviously she knew she was dead, that was her defense’s whole argument.
@NikNak doesn’t mean she didn’t. That pathetic angle by the defense team created ‘reasonable doubt’. Enter the jury. Face it. The truth wasn’t established, that c just had a better lawyer.
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Tor Eckman2022-04-21 13:18:36 (edited 2022-04-21 13:19:02 )
@NikNak doesn’t mean she didn’t. That pathetic angle by the defense team created ‘reasonable doubt’. Enter the jury ( would love to meet these morons) Face it. The truth wasn’t established, that c just had a better lawyer.
I really can't beleive that those two men are supporting her as though she's innocent while that poor baby who deserved to live an amazing life is dead
@Lelem2 no their job is to make sure that the prosecutor can not falsify evidence and that the judge follows protocol
Their job is not to present false narrative or to aid or further the machinations of a client
A defense team can pardon themselves from a client under circumstances in which they feel a client is forcing them to present false evidence or narrative
@then perish she said “has been” which technically could be used for both past and present (I.e., it generally refers to the time leading up to the present without necessarily indicating a cessation), however the fact that she appeared to correct herself to “is” is still pretty telling.
whilst yes, she betrayed an information that was unknown at the time this conversation happened, it was then revealed and admitted by the mother that the girl was already dead, and that the mother knew about it at that point. so yes, interesting thing to note (I did notice it myself, and was surprised it wasn't underlined), but it's not indicative of her guilt in any way... don't get me wrong, I think she obviously did it, but this doesn't prove it... only that she knew...
and whilst the defence attorney is right in his closing statement (what a masterful speech btw), I'm still absolutely baffled she managed to walk free...
@Sebastien Aguila I feel like the outcome might’ve been better if they didn’t go for a murder charge/only the murder charge :-( murder legally speaking is a lot harder to prove, compared to something like manslaughter/involuntary manslaughter) especially in a situation like this… with the claim that the child died in the swimming pool, with the fact that the autopsy was inconclusive as to her physical cause of death, etc…. It is understandable that the jury reached the verdict they did, even tho I believe Casey did it. The frustrating thing is that even if what she claimed is true (swimming pool story) a crime WAS committed — failure to report a death, tampering with a body/evidence, maybe neglect or involuntary manslaughter. Look at Robert durst — they couldn’t prove he killed his neighbor, but did manage to convict him of evidence tampering & other stuff related to the disposal of the body. But now she can’t be tried again in connection w/ this , so even the crimes she did self admittedly commit will just be unpunished.
@SentientPlant I think it's an honest mistake unfortunately. when you prepare your prosecution against such a case, it's hard to imagine how the defence could manage to pull her out of the deep hole she dug for herself...
just take a look at the Depp/Heard trial that's happening right now, it looks more and more like Depp actually doesn't really have any ground to stand on, even though it is obvious to anyone, that he was abused just as much, if not more... But his accusations of defamation just can't be proven... she WAS an ambassador for victims of abuse, and JD WAS under investigation for domestic abuse... she manipulated, she tricked, she played the victim... but she didn't lie on those particular statements that are the object of the current trial. this is probably gonna leave a similar bitter taste in a lot of people's mouth. thankfully, in this instance, no one lost their life... but still, she's being accused of something that no one can prove she's done.
@Sebastien Aguila yeah, definitely, it happens. a murder charge without very robust evidence is allllllways a risk though, which prosecutors know, and it sucks that this is how it turned out. Another example is George Zimmerman & Trayvon martin. Imo charging George with murder was a mistake because ofc they weren’t able to prove “hatred, will, or spite” as required for 2nd degree murder. You can prove beyond a reasonable doubt who caused the death physically but with murder their intentions are also vitally important too. Heard is an interesting example though of course it’s a civil case, not criminal. Defamation was probably depp’s only option, but he’s already lost a defamation suit because the specific events she has claimed most likely occurred. In context, it doesn’t make her actions right or ok, because as you said the whole relationship is more than just a few days where maybe Depp was horrible. But the UK court found that the specific abuse by him most likely occurred. The trial still benefits him though tbh — because even if the context he is presenting doesn’t help legally, it helps in the court of public opinion a lot.
@then perish that word doesn't imply that the kid doesn't exist anymore. It implies the grandparents were good grandparents when they had the opportunity.
@SentientPlant I don’t understand how there was no arrest of her Dad, George. The defence said he moved the body. And no charge for Casey on covering up what her Dad supposedly did?
@NikNak let’s say, for arguments sake that she didn’t kill her daughter and that Caylee died on her own and she freaked out and disposed of the body
The remains had duct tape over her mouth and nose In what circumstance would you put duct tape over the mouth and nose of someone who’s already died “accidentally”?
@S Lynch a judge administers a punishment within the parameters of legal precedence for a crime that a jury finds a defendant guilty of
This is criminal case NOT a civil case in which a judge gives an arbitrary ruling
At any rate…. A ruling CAN be challenged in a court of appeals/superior court
Not that any of this matters, because I never talked about policing a judge and again…. The jury finds you guilty, the judge reads the verdict and sentences to what they find you guilty
There is a min and max based on precedence and yes, if they go outside the max it can be challenged as this is protected by the constitution
What I don't get, and no one is talking about, is the horrible accusation by CA's lawyer, that her father was RAPPING her when she was young... while her father and mother are QUIETLY sitting in the courtroom and listening to this! ACCEPTING basically to be dragged in the mud??? I just don't get it. Obviously it's a disgusting lie from the lawyer to gain sympathy for CA and to explain why she lies all the time... but HOW can her parents, after everything they have done for her, support her, helping her with Caley (that's what CA tell them while in jail)... how can they COMPLY with that defense?? And not come forward and say it's total BS! It's the only time CA can't even hold crying, while her lawyer is stating that horrible accusation, because she's so ashamed TO TARNISH HER DAD IN FRONT OF THE WORLD... but it's necessary to HER defense. It makes no sense, because her mother wouldn't be sitting next to her father if it was true, and shouldn't support CA if it's not. They even comply with the drowning theory and that they all covered it???? I don't get all that... they should have been KEY WITNESSES for Caley.
I noticed that too. She said that Kaley "has been" lucky to have good grandparents as if Kaley will no longer have them in her life or something. The she repeats herself but changes it to Kaley "is" lucky to have good grandparents.
one of the most baffling injustices in american history. how this woman has managed to walk free for years without someone beating the living shit out of her is (almost) equally baffling
@Circus Brains No. People aren't that shallow or simple. Especially when it comes to someone killing their own child. No amount of good locks is going to save you.
@Circus Brains she's not ugly but to call her "super hot and attractive" Is a bit ridiculous. She's a 5 or a 6 at best. Unless you just got out of jail or are in a situation where you don't see women very often, in that case I could understand you thinking that way.
yea the jurors got it wrong... They have to live with it. So stupid they couldn't see through it. Then making up all the stuff about her dad. Her mom just let her get away with all of it.
There are many variables to why someone may be found not guilty. Sometimes is the lack of evidence - see Heard vs Depp - while others may be how the evidence is being perceive, sometimes the criminal is being prosecuted with the wrong crime, others are the judge's fault - see Broke Turner etc. When someone is found not guild because of lack of evidence, I don't consider it to be injustice. You need to meet the burden of proof to a reasonable degree. Now, in the case of Casey, it was completely injustice.
@J. Lucas de Castro Araújo the phrase is "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt." Everyone ignores the reasonable part and just hear beyond a doubt. A reasonable person can look at the evidence and say she did not act like a mother who lost her child, she acted like a mother who killed her child. A reasonable person can follow the evidence given and draw a pretty solid conclusion. If it was simply beyond a doubt, no one would ever go to jail, even if you saw them do it, it could have been their evil twin!
@Gary Mikels please tell me that's sarcasm. There is so much evidence proving she did it. Everyone says it's circumstantial but I don't think they know what that means.
I actually now regret watching this documentary. It simply proves the fact that justice cannot be served. I understand that it is his job to win the case, but how could you sleep knowing you just fabricated evidence to let a murderer walk away like that.. This is so deeply disturbing and I am heartbroken for the little girl. She did NOT deserve this!
@Danielle Minerva to be fair i doubt it's the lawyer who made that up it's likely during discussion with Casey she made it up and told that to her lawyer who just used it cause he has to it's his job to try his utmost to defend his client
Lawyers are not judge. Period. To decide what is right or wrong is judge's decision. A lawyer's work is to provide a voice for the defendant so that the dependent has a say to matters. Lawyers are not judges and they do not decide anything by themselves.
Imo it’s on the jury. Why did that baby have duct tape wrapped around her head, and why wasn’t what Casey journaled about and her actions during the disappearance say what her true feelings were? Onus is on the jury
@aetherisc I agree entirely. It's the system itself and the jury who let this girl down. I genuinely do not understand how anyone let alone a panel of 12 people that are right in the thick of it could find this disgusting skank not guilty. Sometimes I wish I was able to be on a jury to make sure that the correct verdict is rendered.. i seriously can't get over the fact that they let her go.
@Novkorova I never said that jury made right or wrong decision. Yes lawyers have a choice but even so it's their f'ing job to try save the client no matter what. They are only the official voice for their client and it doesn't matter whether the client is innocent or guilty.
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The Sleepy Dot2022-06-06 18:48:42 (edited 2022-06-06 18:49:15 )
@Shrey Jain a lawyer's job shouldn't be to defend their client at all costs. it should be to give them a fair chance. in other words, when the defendant is guilty, the defense attorney should be the devil's advocate.
BUT that still means being honest, and using valid, relevant arguments. fabricating a backstory for Casey, or (if you believe Casey was the one to tell that story), use past abuse inflicted on Casey to justify and "humanize" her as to make her character seem innocent is so wrong on so many levels... morally speaking, those attorneys have failed.
@Shrey Jain i used the word "should" in the beginning for a reason. "living in [my] fairyland", as you put it, was literally the point. The current legal system NEEDS to change, because currently it's broken and it's pretending to me way more moral and just than it is. I was moreso discussing what the legal system SHOULD be like, or what it wrongly pretends to be.
@The Sleepy Dot the system is just lol. This is how it should work. The jury is there for decide. It's no one but jury's fault if the offender is saved. Lawyer's job is that what it is now and it shouldn't change. If you change that there will be a ton s..t of problem coming along with it.
@The Sleepy Dot I'm not delusional not am I ignorant. I live in India and trust me the system you have is far better than what we have here. People use emotions and so called morality here and it's being misused heavily. The only thing we're better at is gun control. You may think it's a good idea to change it all but you don't look at other countries as example. You'll be far worse if this morality thing you talk about come in.
@Shrey Jain “better” isn’t the same as “good”. the current system is also heavily based on emotions, which is why lawyers can get away with defaming people (accusing them of being addicts and such) to convince a jury/judge they are criminals and abusers, why black people and other minorities are disproportionately being sent to serve time/given the death penalty in comparison to non-minorities, and why Casey walks free. we can’t settle for this legal system just because in other places it’s worse…
@The Sleepy Dot I'm not saying it can't be better. Of course there need to be more regulations so that the system improves. But the approach you have mentioned is a proved failed system. It doesn't work. I've seen people in USA talk about making USA a socialist country because there is more so called equality. You have no idea how much harm it would do. USA is a superpower for a reason. Things have worked for you. Think about that at least. This morality and passionate approach is bogus. Just look how Biden has made a joke of USA. You're about to go in recession. Things are way better and just in USA. You should be happy to be there.
@Shrey Jain I’m not American, actually. And I understand that in some ways the American legal system works. In my country, it’s very very VERY rare for sexual harassers or abusers to face consequences. In America it’s still rare, but less rare than where I life, and in that sense it’s improving, which I do somewhat appreciate. However, I am still very passionate against the legal system there because I still see glaring, huge issues.
And no, socialism wasn’t proven as a failed system. Countries that implemented socialist regulations were far better off than they were under capitalism, but so far there is no example of a true socialist country/government because capitalism is far more profitable for the rich, who will do anything and everything to prevent countries from becoming socialist, or god forbid communist.
To be honest, I’m getting really tired talking about this topic. If you decide to respond again, I’ll hear you out, but I’m about ready to call it quits. We can just agree to disagree.
How did they explain away the duct tape on Kaylee’s body, and the fact that Casey was at the store with just her boyfriend the same day that Kaylee disappeared??? And the fact that there never was a babysitter? And that everything she told the police (and everyone else) was a lie????? What an effing travesty of justice….
Obviously Caylee didn't drown but even if she had, isn't it a crime to remove a dead body from a scene and dispose of her illegally? Isn't it a crime to obstruct justice by lying to the police time after time?
@bostonwhofan She was found guilty on counts 4--7, all of which were about lying to law enforcement. She was found guilty for what they could prove. But, she spent a few years in jail leading up to the trial, so she had paid her time in regards to lying to law enforcement, so she had to do no extra (or very little, like 5 days) time for it.
Actually, the jury said Casey was a good mother and she had no motive to kill her daughter.. and they also said the duct tape and the chloroform were not convincing enough ..lol
@Danielle Minerva I read that as Freddie Mercury at first and was very confused
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some idiot2022-05-19 06:52:24 (edited 2022-05-19 06:54:21 )
as far as the duct tape— there was conflict about whether it was on her face or over her mouth as well as possible contamination when it was found and when it was collected. they even accused the worker who found caylee of doing something wrong.
What I don't get, and no one is talking about, is the horrible accusation by CA's lawyer, that her father was RAPPING her when she was young... while her father and mother are QUIETLY sitting in the courtroom and listening to this! ACCEPTING basically to be dragged in the mud??? I just don't get it. Obviously it's a disgusting lie from the lawyer to gain sympathy for CA and to explain why she lies all the time... but HOW can her parents, after everything they have done for her, support her, helping her with Caley (that's what CA tell them while in jail)... how can they COMPLY with that defense?? And not come forward and say it's total BS! It's the only time CA can't even hold crying, while her lawyer is stating that horrible accusation, because she's so ashamed TO TARNISH HER DAD IN FRONT OF THE WORLD... but it's necessary to HER defense. It makes no sense, because her mother wouldn't be sitting next to her father if it was true, and shouldn't support CA if it's not. They even comply with the drowning theory and that they all covered it???? I don't get all that... they should have been KEY WITNESSES for Caley.
@Syl D i mean if they spoke up they mightve caught a contempt of court charge, and thats their daughter. being a parent makes you act stupid. im sure in their hearts when they go to bed they hope/believe she didnt do anything, but i think they know. they just want to preserve whatever family image they had.
Actually she wrote more than that in a excerpt of a journal she’s asking for forgiveness for a mortal sin. And then she goes on to say that she has done a terrible thing that must not be named.
I have run into several young women like her and can see right through her talk. People like her don't realize we have a full view of the truth, but her parents just shoved the truth under a rug and now their grand daughter got buried there too.
Dumb jurors to fall for a slick-talking defense attorney. But the prosecutor should have seen this coming and stressed "beyond reasonable doubt" versus "beyond all doubt."
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Christina M2020-08-08 21:37:38 (edited 2022-02-01 03:02:50 )
Sure she threw her dad under the bus. I am sure that was just another lie.
So nobody is going to mention the DUCK TAPE that was on her skeletal remains?? Even if her daughter drowned in a swimming pool and she didn’t know what to do how do you explain the duck tape...just how?
I cried for three days straight when the hamster escaped for the fortieth time and never came back. We had a ceremonial funeral and Casey isn’t pressed at all .
@Tilted Halo different people react differently, she might have been crazy or sociophatic or whatever but is there enough evidence to convict her of murder? no, not really... does this mean that a well executed crime (or just one missing evidence) even if it is very obvious can be defended in court? sure, just ask OJ.
incognito psychology and law intersect daily and not in a compatible way . Her demeanor , responses, history of lying are obviously highly suspect and rightly so but not enough to convict . Throw in a trial by media ( ask OJ) and you end up with a similar outcome.
@Kat The duct tape was mentioned by the prosecution and a big reason that it was ruled a murder, but the defense got an expert to say that there was no dna on the tape and threw doubt in that piece of evidence.
@incognito people that followed this from day one like i have knows she did this after listening to all depositions etc. It paints the full pic. I never forget wheb Cindys boss said Cindy told her she found the car and it smalled like death and she told her boss of Casey did anything to that baby....Cindy knew that baby was dead from that car.
@Birdsong i'm on board with you, 99.9% she did it, everything points towards it, my point was never that shes innocent... but what you know and what you can prove in a court of law are two different things.
@Kat she didn't die in the pool, xany the nanny (xanax) killed her ,casey had been giving it to caylee so she would hv more time to do whatever&one day she gave her too much maybe by accident, maybe on purpose but it's a fact. She was dosing her bc the grandparents would later say that sometimes caylee would be super tired with dark circles around her eyes & a missed toddler nap wouldn't be the reason bc the child would sleep for hr's&it was really hard to wake her she would be listless&nodding bck off to sleep but they nvr dreamed it was casey (their lil princess ).
Jayson Price - Correct, but there is a brand of duct tape called ‘Duck Tape’. Lots of people call it duck tape, like Sellotape can mean any clear, plastic tape.
@Kat that's what's so fascinating about this woman. Her life is so filled with lies that you don't know what to believe.
Did she really murder her or did she simulate a murder to hide a neglectful drowning. And she feels remorseful for that.
Plot twist: Casey, 32, lives in South Florida in the home of Patrick McKenna, a private detective who was the lead investigator on her defense team. She works for him as a researcher.
What became of Zenaida ‘Zanny the Nanny’ Gonzalez, who Casey claimed was caring for Caylee when she went missing? Gonzalez was interviewed by police, but no charges were ever filed against her in the case. She sued Casey for defamation in 2013, but that case was tossed out of courtin 2015 after a federal judge said Casey’s statements did not legally qualify as malicious. In January 2016, Gonzalez was arrested on theft charges after Osceola County (Florida) deputies said that while working as a cleaner at a motel, she stole a cancer patient’s credit card and charged $850 on it at area stores
@Kat EXACTLY. plus what she typed into the computer: foolproof suffocation. plus what she wrote in her journal: i have committed a mortal sin that I can't name...…. COME ON!!!!!!!
Jayson Price Actually, it is called “duck tape”. That was the original term for it and is called duck tape because it is made using duck canvas. “Duct tape” is a mispronunciation.
She was just being honest, I think, because it is most likely true.
That is female psychology. If they get lots of attention, no matter the source or cause, they love it, "look mom, I'm on tv!!" I bet she still gets lots of fan mail even now, she loves this shit.
Yes! She also talks about "a choice she's MADE". The murder was NOT an accident as so many people believe. She WILLINGLY decided to kill her daughter: hence the google searches. I don't get how people cannot just SEE it!
@nuff sed i see someone replied below that she was not in a rug. But in Mexico there was a case of a child also, Paulette - all the media and family at the house of the girl looking for her, several interviews and people sleeping at the kid’s room also, to at the end showing a video where police “found” the girl’s body between the mattress and the side of the bed, and closing the case saying the body was there all along 😒
@SaturnineXTS oh well, that’s all right then. That’s a good enough reason to bump her 3 year old off isn’t it. Are you kidding???!! If that’s the case then she could have signed custody over to the grandparents or put the child up for adoption!!!!
@matthew beck I agree with the fact about being on a Jury. I've been on one and I was amazed how you are given evidence, but you have so many questions you want to ask and you don't always get answers. I lost some faith, tbh, in the system
@A. Alberts It's crazy how that information in itself hadn't led to an investigation into her father. The way that lawyer worded that phrase and used it sickened me as well. It was all rhetoric.
@Marie Chambe A MISCARRIAGE of justice. I think maybe because her dad was a cop, they let her go so he wouldn't have a double tragedy. Though it could never be the same, knowing his daughter is an inhuman monster
Exactly! Like I kinda get how you can explain things said/done publicly away for various reasons (obis its all bs but it can be done) but what she privately writes in her journal with no expectation of anyone seeing it? How tf is anyone believing that's because she's used to lying and she'd done to some dark place in her head
@Kat My thoughts exactly, like how do you explain that. Isn't hiding the little girl's body a charge on itself? The prosecution team really slept on the job on this one.
I hate that the legal system has become a public speaking contest more than a way to seek justice. It's like, yea she totally murdered her own daughter, but the lawyer talk so good😰 same thing when people get away with serious crimes based on technicalities. I mean, that's why we have the human element, isn't it? We're not machines fed with 0 and 1 absolute codes, to let a violent criminal slip through because "this data does not exist". The jury and the judge should definitely evaluate evidence and testimony objectively, but they also shouldn't ignore the glaring intent of the crime. Too often, people face severe sentences for minor crimes, and for others, law doesn't seem to exist.
@Christina M the jurors were actually only fed one side of the story because they were isolated from the real world and didn’t see any of the press and they really only voted not guilty because they were going to give her the death sentence but had they just done life in jail it probably would have been a different outcome
@jennifer ceballos I think it's more of a case that she had the worst and most stupid jury I've ever seen in my life. They wanted a Law & Order episode with tons of actual DNA evidence and witnesses - apparently, they never got that murders often have neither of those.
@Dotty Orange I never heard the question ever. In every thing I watched or heard about the witch. Not once did I hear. Thank you. So what was her answer?
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
Baez wasn’t even that good. Casey walked because the prosecution didn’t do a good enough job convincing a jury of fools that Casey was responsible for her daughter’s death. If I would’ve been on that jury, I would’ve found her guilty, no problem. The fact that Casey didn’t call police to report her daughter “missing” for 30 days....makes her guilty. Misleading and lying to police about working at Orlando studios...makes her guilty. Going out to party and getting a tattoo that says “Bella Vita” while her daughter’s “missing”...makes her guilty. And the way she destroyed her dad with false allegations of sexual abuse was disgusting. She killed her dad too...in a sense. I don’t believe for one second her parents were involved in Caylee’s death. Casey was 100% responsible.
@Kat this is exactly what i thought. Did the prosecution even pick up on this, because with all the information given in this video only the deaf and blind would say not guilty. So makes me think the prosecution did a lousy job in getting the facts out
@Tell-it yes it’s true reason why Casey got off it was because this is my personal belief they were conflicting stories the friend that was introduced of the family saying that Kaylee had drowned and that the family was trying to keep this big secret there was a doubt that she actually murdered her child one of the leading theories was the baby drowned and the family was covering it and did she really kill her kid. I watched the trial on TV what I find disturbing is her journal entry where she says she has committed a great sin and she’s she sounds like she’s remorseful and there’s a conflicting event some traumatic thing in her life and she says that she hopes God can forgive her for this mortal sin she has done It coincides when Kaylee was dead or when they think she died another thing there were some Internet searches that I think she did I think the mother took responsibility for those searches because she felt a sense of guilt that she failed her daughter and that is the result why she killed her grandchild...Do I believe she’s innocent know when they showed pictures of her sweet innocent child that woman was not tearful and that one bit only when they said she might go to jail for the rest of your life but this is just my take
@Abby S. Pumpkins The prosecution was unable to prove, BEYOND a shadow of a doubt, that Casey was guilty of 1st degree murder. The things you mentioned absolutely matter... in assessing Casey's character. But being a bad mom, being selfish, lying at every turn, aren't indicative of murder.
Sure, it's shady af & makes her look really bad... But, a jury NEEDS more than circumstancial evidence, character info, to convinct someone of 1st degree murder.
*Def not defending Casey or what she did. Just pointing out that the "burden of proof" is the responsibility of the prosecution. They need to prove guilt & unfortunately everything that was incriminating for Casey was circumstancial, suspicious, didn't look right... But, it wasn't proof she killed Caylee.
"It's better that 100 guilty men go free than for 1 innocent man to be imprisoned."
@incognito there is plenty of evidence. Failure to report her daughter missing. Lying to the police. Writing in her journal that she’s “commited a sin” but is the happiest she’s ever been, being fhe last seen with her daughter. Failing to tell the police the truth of where she last saw her daughter after multiple questionings. Having access to the duck tape. Her daughter decomposing in her car (evidence in the smell). There was so much evidence I genuinely don’t understand how you can say there is not
@jennifer ceballos she had a good defense attorney but I believe the reason she was found not guilty is because the State lost... not that the Defense won. The State overcharged her and got cocky and they should not have asked for the Death Penalty with no cause of death or forensic dna evidence.
@jennifer ceballos she OJ’d the case... it’s not uncommon at all. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Just like we all know OJ Simpson killed Nicole, it doesn’t take a genius... but to prove that in court, WITHOUT REASONABLE DOUBT, is a whole other issue. 🤷♂️
Better have irrefutable evidence, or else you’re pissing in the wind.
@matthew beck So what is your point? As you yourself said, feelings should not matter, only facts. And the facts are that the prosecution were not able to provide evidence beyond any doubt of Casey being guilty of murder. They have to PROVE IT. They couldn't even prove how she died! By your very own words you should agree with this jury decision.
I live in Florida, & nearly the Same exact thing happened to my only Son when he was just 3 years old, on new Years Eve 2017/2018, while he was left alone with his Mother, & Grandmother. He was found in a Canal, behind the Apartment Complex, where no Cameras or lights were located. It happened on the Loudest night of the year, just after the sun had gone down. When discovered by Coral springs Police Department, he had a Large Visible Red Mark on the back of his Neck, that was NEVER explained. His Mother lived on the Second Level, exterior wall, up against the canal, that surrounded the entire Structure on three sides, & the fourth was up against a road. At three years Old, my Son could NOT Negotiate the staircase on his own, in one Direction, OR the other, without me helping him, as is normal for any three year old, on a dangerous concreate staircase. It must have been almost twenty steps. So the spin that CSPD believed from Allison was, that while she was napping after a Big Day out, & that her infallible 62 year old Mother, whom had a serious AXE to grind with me, was supposed to be watching my Son, Jack. Whom they said, pushed a footlocker that weighed twice as much as him, across the carpeted Living room floor, of their 800 Square foot apartment, to the front door. Then unlocked the Dead bolt the was near the top of the Door frame (I have Photos) then opened the door, that normally flew open, & was on a chain to keep from ripping free, due to the wind coming off of the Canal, & let himself outside. Then closed the door behind his three year old little self. While no one heard, or saw anything. Allegedly Allison had woken up, & couldn't find Jack in the tiny little apartment (ROLLING EYES). So she then asked her all knowing, wise, Oracle of Delphi Mother, Debora. Where is Jack? to which she (lied) had no answer. It was 6:38, December 31, 2017. My phone Rang, & it said Allison. she has been ignoring my Calls to come see, & pick up my child for 90 days at least by this point. I answered the Phone, & the Verbatim that came out of my mouth is as Follows " Allison, you had better tell me my child is Fucking Alive, & Breathing" all I heard was indiscernible screaming. I repeated myself. I then heard her state in plain English (Please tell my Husband what happened to his child) I proceeded to loose my shit. The CSPD had alerted Hollywood PD to my location, & they shortly their after surrounded my house. The CSPD Closed the case inside of 16 Hours. They NEVER filed any charges against the both of them, & took pity on them both because of their blubbering. Additionally they both were MORE than easy on the eyes. I was Spitting Venom, to the CSPD, on on every Social media Site I was a part of. The Lead SVU Det. from CSPD called me, & said " so I hear you're going around online, telling everyone that Allison is a baby killer?" to which my response was "where did you read that?" She then said 'I personally haven't read anything, this is just what I'm told" We had a VERY colorful conversation, that I will not bore you with the Details of because I think at this point you are starting to see a Manifest Observable Trend of Behavior. The LEAD SVU DET. called me no less than FIVE more time, Both attempting to Threaten, & broker with me. I don't think she was expecting, or was ready for what she heard next.
Allison then Motioned for a Restraining order to which Michael G. Kaplan, of the 17th Circuit Vigorously issued, with glee I might add. Additionally the Hearing was Dually used to make public statements to Banish any Notion put Forward By Myself, about the lack of effort on the part of the CSPD to bring charges against the mother of my only Son, & to fortify the concept of the mental health of Allison's Mother, whom DID have a history of Mental health issues, & suicidal ideations. (It was a Ludacris cross between a dog, & pony show, & the dismemberment of William the Wallace) Then they went on to suggest that at just Three years old, too young to make such a determinization, as stated by the DSM, that he was somehow limited, & that's how he houdinied himself into the position he was "FOUND" in. The 17th Circuit treated me like a criminal. They then Gave Allison her two year restraining order, took my Firearms, to which I resisted greatly for a years time, Until they Jailed me, with no hope of release, until I willingly surrendered my Property in a Most Perverse of Circumstances. I couldn't help but observe that they took large sadistic measure of Pleasure out of that, & relished in it, Disarming a Disabled Veteran, who's son just Died in an EXTREAMLY suspicious fashion, while NOT charging the Party RESPONSIBLE for his Well being at the time of his Death. I mean, could you find a MORE Luciferin practice?
By the Time our Divorce paperwork had gone though, NOT a YEAR later, she was Living on the other side of the Continent, already 9 Months Pregnant, with someone else's child, who was still active duty. Her second string choice that she knew from NAVY "A" school, that she never took seriously, while we both were Enlisted (Another Story). "JAMES" was trying to "Romance the stone" the entire time we were trying to repair our Marriage, whom her mother was endlessly trying to Broker, & interject herself in. (Narcissistic Mother Disorder).
Ladies, & Gentlemen of the Jury, I hear put forth the Obvious Notion that my Only Son was Murdered to eliminate a Liability, & to sever ties with a Husband whom did not meet the Approval of the Mother In Law. I will let you Draw the conclusion of whom most likely did the unthinkable.
The burden of proof for the prosecution in a criminal trial is not "beyond a shadow of a doubt." It is "beyond a reasonable doubt." Those are two extremely different things. A shadow of a doubt can be the flimsiest thing whatsoever. But a reasonable doubt is something that actually explains away evidence.
that says nothing. When I was in jail, for example, I would cry every day because I was miserable (i was in love with a girl who couldnt see). But I would also repeat to myself sometimes "I am soooo happy" because it made me feel better. Many miserable people actually say they're happy, this is especially true with people who are about to commit suicide. Saying you're happy doesnt actually mean anything, it could mean the complete opposite. This is common sense 101
It could simply be a defense mechanism to negative emotions. Every human has those
@Edward Li beyond a reasonable doubt is meant to be taken literally, so that innocent people don't get convicted... Even if it does mean that guilty people go free. An incredible number of executed people have been exhonerated after the state killed them... So even with that standard, it doesn't work.
@1MC I'm so sorry for your loss and for so many other things you were subjected to as a result.
I realise it's probably of little comfort but I firmly believe there is a special place in Hell for child killers. I hope one day you find peace and comfort.
Diary: I have committed sin that possibly involves murder of a child within the past week who I shall not name Judge: lol Colored person: 100 feet away from crime Judge: DEATH SENTENCE
@Dj Trig From what he said, the jury did get it wrong, it sounds like The second jury convicted the police officer based off of emotions and not actual INTENT. If the young man was trying to run over the police officer in a car, then the police officer has every right to shoot and kill as he is actively defending himself against a 2 ton pieces of metal hurdling at him.
@Chuu Chuu unfortunately no one can answer the question of intent though, which is why they had the jury trial. From a logical perspective of self preservation in the face of lethal threat, it is wildly unlikely that the dude would have gone out of his way to run someone over as a final “f u,” rather than tried to escape to preserve his own life. Not saying it isn’t impossible, but it’s incredibly unlikely
imagine you hate being a mother and your child really goes missing. you'd be happy too, and it makes sense she didn't call the police. she was happy. anyone who hates being a parent would be happy that finally they're free of their child.
@Dj Trig Your missing the point, it doesn't matter what the intent is of person behind the wheel was, in the split second you have to react to someone coming at you in a car and not turning away in order to not hit you, common sense and logic dictates that at that very moment, the cop had every right to shoot and kill the driver of the vehicle that was about to run him over. 99% of cops do not want to have to use their gun and take another life if its not needed, however, it was clearly needed in this case based on what the guy said about the case. Im certain that in that situation, the cop clearly felt as if his or innocent bystanders/civilians lives were in danger if the criminal was actively hurdling a car at people recklessly. cars are dangerous and lethal weapons under the law. the cop also didn't have prior knowledge of how old the person driving the car was, all that matters is that the person in the car who was lethally endangering the cops life and other peoples had to be stopped with the only means possible at that moment, which in this case, was deadly force.
@Chuu Chuu nah that’s a huge misconception there, you’re then putting someone’s life in the hands of a cop’s bad split second decision making. That’s an off the rails wild take to claim that the cop has every right or justification to shoot someone lethally in any case where he might be a little anxious or scared
@Chuu Chuu ngl that was way too long. Tbh you’re just giving cops waaaayyy too much benefit of the doubt. I understand the instinct to do that, but it’s undoubtedly an error once you think harder about it. Imagine a scenario where the cop didn’t have a gun—everyone would be alive today. That’s all that needs to be said to show the cop’s guilt (and stupidity, anxiety, fear, whatever else you want to call it to explain his mistake).
@incognito criminal profilers can crack cases based on body language, there was more than enough information to spot that she was lying and had contradicted too much.
@Tilted Halo it's because McKenna worked on both cases and manipulated the jury. in the oj case he used footage of an investigator using slurs which technically had nothing to do with the case, but it soured jurors to the prosecution. people have been convicted for much less
@Anna Conway I just know how precious and rare white women are. In India we only have dark skin women and having dark skin is a curse. I only managed to touch a white women once in my life and that was like heaven . I wish my wife was atleast 10 percent as white as white women.
What makes me sick is that they most likely would have had proof if the idiot cops had gone out to Caylee's remains site the 1st time the utility worker had called, months earlier!!!
@jennifer ceballos what happen with the babies dad? Man so with all these lies and she writing it in her notebook was not enough to convict her!? Fucn crazy!!!
@Christina M I don't think so, that was one of the rare moments she showed any emotion. I believe the lawyer had to drag it out of her by asking if there's anything that could make the jury sympathetic toward her and the dad didn't react to that statement either so go figure.
@A. Alberts rape would actually explain her sociopathic behaviour and being devoid of emotion and not feeling guilty for a murder she obviously committed as she clearly doesn't have your typical moral values and a lot of sociopaths are made that way by trauma. She is an empty shell, casey died before she killed her kid. One can argue her father did it given that he made her that way.
@A. Alberts do you not know narcissists and sociopaths can be made not born? Trauma makes them. Parents make them. Think before you speak. Consider all sides especially those that oppose your beliefs, that's the way you can grow.
@Cath Walsh the reason she killed her kid is because she's a sociopath she feels no emotions and doesn't have your moral values. She doesn't think it's wrong and she can't see past her obsession for a made up good life. The real issue is what or who made her and people like her a walking shell of a human being. In most cases it's trauma
@april silvers a sociopath can't feel remorse. So no there shouldn't have been any pain as she doesn't have a realization of her actions in the extent a normal person would.
@Dea Dean Yea and that would make a lot of sense IF she wasn’t writing something incriminating about how she’s so happy without her daughter? Also she was an adult living out of home, I doubt she would’ve needed it. But regardless, the point of a fake journal is you fill it with stuff your parents/others won’t find problematic or concerning. Why would she write something that incriminates her for murder in a fake journal?
@valentini aholelei No she was not convicted but there’s too many things that connected her with killing of her daughter the jurors what angered me was that they said well we wanted to be like CSI like what we see on the TV and we didn’t just get that that is TV you cannot expect TV to match real life over here you got what you got and it directly points to her but I guess the theynwanted a neon sign that literally said she did it so eventually she got away with it. There’s too many things connecting her to the murder she wrote on her journal several times about her feeling like she was out of a burden and this correlates to when her daughter was missing and they were searching for her another thing that I found interesting was that they found the baby skeleton behind her house then somebody was looking on the computer for how to drug an infant ect Which the mom said she did which I don’t believe her I think she was just covering for her daughter and the forensic team said that in her car they found evidence that there had been a dead body in there the chemical compounds of a dead body
What i find sad is that us on these comments can see it and the so called justice system can't. It's frightening really. Just listen and look at how she reacts to everything no normal person would act like that nut case. No regard for her daughter . And what about the duct tape on her little girl?? Corrupt
i think that this is postnatal depression talk. most first mothers are overwhelmed and by year 3 it's just coming to that tipping point..when it was over for her she felt relieved. i knew someone like this, who didn't show any emotions. she to was horendeously abused by her father and what's worse her mother turned a blind eye to all of it.
I have a close friend that’s a sociopath that reminds me so much of her. Like everything about him is fake and nearly every action he takes is dishonest with the motive of benefiting himself. Kinda cool tbh, like I know under different circumstances he would be a serial killer. But he’s a spoiled rich kid so he’ll probably just work at a hedge fund or investment bank.
No, it doesn't. Maybe, she could have "sold" her daughter for money (child trafficking) - which is indeed a crime but a different form of crime than first degree murder or homicide
@incognito Does that mean that all current justice system are broken? Yes, it does. Would it help to introduce lie-detectors for each and every major crime subject? Yes. Would it help to have an AI jury that sees everything much more objectively over time with good updates? Yes. The system is flawed. Time for a new one.
Casey Anthony killed her child, but I'm lost at this whole law enforcements job? Decomposed body in the trunk? Test for Caylee Mariah Anthony's DNA in trunk. Interrogation needed to be a Torture treatment if you call that interrogation. What happened to straight up chewing her ass and asking where did you bury your child? What was up with not bringing another female in the room and sharing pictures of your kid growing up? Why did they not show a dead picture of your child to you ask about marks on the body? What are these search engine hits about killing your child? Why did they not try to get her father worked up about rapping his daughter and make her break? What happened to interrogating the boyfriend that was with her just before and after she killed her kid?
@TheMotherConfesser A jury is normally instructed specifically not to consider the possible punishment in the guilty/not guilty portion of their deliberations. Thst isn’t their job at that time. They are only supposed to deliberate on the guilt of the defendant. Sentencing will later be determined by the Judge or the Jury in separate deliberations. They also had the opportunity to find her guilty on lesser charges: aggravated child abuse or aggravated manslaughter, but they decided not guilty on both of those also.
@Sir Henry Our Justice system is definitely troubled, but it’s one of the best. Lie detectors can be beat, especially by sociopaths, as Casey seems to be. They only give, at best, indications (in the hands of an experienced operator) that a person may or may not be lying. That’s why they aren’t allowed to be placed into evidence at trial. At best, the results can help narrow down suspects or help in interrogation of same.
@Violet when you’re depressed like that you’re worried about bonding with your child and it eventually happens. You’re depressed and you don’t even want to buy yourself anything or go out, NOT partying and getting tattoos, no way!!!
@ProdigalPorcupine Probably so, lol. Sorry about that. It pissed me off about this girl. We came back from Disney and stopped by the tree mural on the way home. It was the last day before they took everything down. Oh the people at it and them telling us how disgusted they were at their neighbors. My Granny even called us on out way to Disney after the verdict all kinds of pissed. First time I ever heard her cuss
@John Hareiel No problem, John. There’s a lot of replies and it’s not hard to get the wrong poster! It is indeed a sickening case, it must be very profound seeing that tree mural, I live across the pond and even thousands of miles away we felt the pain. The case reverberated around the world. So horrible.
I feel a bit for Casey, in one point of my life I was almost forced by parents and my girlfriend to start a family on my own and have kids when I was totally not rdy for it.
Hell is where this lawyer will be because anyone especially a parent can tell this monster of a mom killed her daughter!! Blood is in his hands and one only feel he is an accomplice in this murder
The child was missing for 31 days.......that is enough said. She didn't tell anyone, her parents couldn't know what was happening, saying that a nanny took her even then you would have called the police. She sought no help from anyone, the only help she sought was someone to make her daughter disappear.
@Eternally Profound That doesn't make her a murderer though. Why can't you see that? This whole justice system is messed up ad there are many people in prison right now for crimes they never committed. You live in a banana republic where only poor people go to jail!
@JAMBERRY I didn't say she was a murderer, you said it. if your child was missing would you go out partying every night???? I live in a banana democrat where only rich people go to jail.
I know their wasn't much evidence showing that she was responsible for her daughters death, but they should've at least charged her big for those other things
Casey lied to the police, she's didnt care about her daughter's saftey, searched online on shotguns & suffication, and she did so many more shit we all can't stand.
It says a lot about how deep sexual abuse can cause the damaged victim’s understanding of parenthood,, please, don’t ,for your own awareness.. cast this women as being evil… just damaged to the death of her own child is the price of abuse… please forgive her… she will have a life of great pain to deal with.. as we all seek to be whole. Maybe this is why it takes generations or many life times.. before we as humans can say we are free from the evil that mocks our very thoughts..
Biggest detail for me? The kid drowned accidentally and she dumped the body in a swamp. Why did wrap the child's head in duct tape? Your kid drowns accidentally you call 911 immediately. Just in case there is that one in million chance they can bring back that child back. What you don't do is wrap duct tape over the nose and mouth and dump it in the swamp. That combined with the suffocation Google searches the night before, then partying for 31 days after, writing how happy you are in your journal and getting a nice 'life is beautiful' tattoo. She was assessed to be sane by experts, she knew what she was doing. She killed the kid, dumped the body made up a story, got caught then got off with it. That's pretty much it.
@lee wan She gave an interview recently. She claimed that she does not know how her daughter died which conflicts with her defense testimony. These things tend to come out after time. Let's see.
@Antonio Martinez you know what. That's the stupidest comment I have come across. I hate Trump. He is a liar. But you cannot put people in groups like that. People are complex beings and we each have our own thoughts, don't we? I thought we did.
@matthew beck not the lawyers fault, it's stupid people on the jury that do not understand what is important and what is BS. These lawyer would not use these defense techniques if the people in jury's knew better than to fall for it.
Did you not listen to a single thing the video explained to you? You overlook the fact of what was said and discovered? How she masked everything up because she was sexually abused by her dad? It became part of her character. Psychologists during the trial gave testimony as to how this works. Why she was unable to display emotion. Jeez, you really drink that koolaid huh
@Leo Strife I'm not going to do a huge reply because of my situation but I will say look at more of the comments here, I'm far from the only one, she was obviously guilty, there was plenty evidence, she was not insane, yes I understand very well that trauma causes damage, but that doesn't mean that they should get away with it, she knew what she was doing, it was planned, the only reason she got away with it is money, the huge amounts these corrupt defense lawyers will take. Sick that you are defending her, not replying again
@Gillian Haney Lol I didn't defend her. 12 people made that decision for us. Don't have to reply, just pointing out that you're running a very dangerous marathon if you're going by "look at all the comments here". Don't follow the crowd.. How many of them are psychiatrists / lawyers / psychologists versus normal people who know very little to nothing about any of this and are somehow professionals from watching a video... Credibility. Always question it. You're more sickened by the fact that she "got away with it" or that 12 people agreed that she wasn't guilty. Don't be sickened by my opinion, a discussion shouldn't make you feel that way. By bringing emotions into it, you may have a biased view. I'm just asking you to be a bit more open minded, you seem very intelligent and I appreciate your time for responding. Have a good day.
@Mew it was the abominable hideous excuse for a human being Jose baez we can thank for that. There's one thing trying to use tactics.to get your client off but it's quite another using the tactics he did like lying about being abused, he even tried to get the guy who found caylee's remains as a suspect in her murder.
Hey I recently watched an episode about this on the A&E channel and there was one discovery that even the most experienced investigators missed and they didn't even mention it during her trial and that was she was looking through the internet and searched for a topic called foolproof suffocation and that would change her verdict
@Melissa South Florida, in front of the CSPD Building, then maybe have the after party in front of the Ft. Lauderdale Court House. You've only heard such a little bit, trying to type out all the grievous details is like write a book every so often.
Just the same, other things are at play, & have happened that most people just can't wrap their minds around. & the State has leaned in on me like you wouldn't imagine for Questioning the Narrative behind my Only Son's Highly Suspicious Death.
@PuppiesandSunshine as dumb as this whole argument is, it's both "duck tape" is a brand while "duct tape" is a type of tape commonly used for a/c n heat ducts.
@jennifer ceballos exactly! She had an excellent lawyer! Sigh. They do say it’s easier to defend someone who admits guilt then someone who really is innocent! It’ll catch up to her soul one day.
My jaw still drops when the defense comes out with that BS opening statement...no matter how many times I watch it. I still can’t believe she got away with it.
@ProdigalPorcupine sellotape is a very particular product as is duct tape, we call it duct tape because it's meant for usage with ducts...calling something by its wrong name because other people do it is no justification at all.
@PuppiesandSunshine Duck canvas isn't made from actual duck it's made from heavy cotton and the name duct tape is described as a " possible alteration to the original" as opposed to definitively....come on at least get it right. 😀
Jurors were clearly idiots. There is overwhelming evidence she lied, she did it, and covered it up. I don't get why they didn't find her guilty. I hate that she is out going around doing whatever while that poor baby is dead.
This family is strange. If I lied about "misplacing" my child my family would not be joking with me. They would be kicking on the glass and asking the judge to pour cold water on me until I told them the whereabouts of the child. This girl has obviously been indulged her whole life. Her mother is a saint but was probably an enabler. I assume the father was the disciplinarian, which is why he was the one Casey accused.
Apparently she's now out there wanting to write a book on her story, make a movie, wanting to have more children and out here partying while doing drugs. What a great person to be out roaming free in society.
@Boop Proxy People should ashame this woman so bad that she should get to the point of confession. The community has to exclude her from the society completely.
Well, it's not like she's dangerous. She's actually pretty cool. Sucks she disliked being a mother but she's crazy AF ...still don't think she's dangerous tho. (She should be ok lol)
@nyun lol ya she is pretty cool. I can jump on Twitter and find you thousands of women much worse than Casey (in under 5mins lol) I don't agree with how she handled her daughter...but I like her 👍
@Cappy 22 i mean yeah there’s a bunch of people that have done worse things but it doesn’t cancel the fact that she is a horrible human being ? she lied to pretty much everybody she knew and acted so entitled through the whole case.. i don’t know how you find her cool tbh
@nyun lol ya and I'm not even saying these people have done worse than Casey, they're just much more toxic and repellent than Casey. Casey just didn't want to face the consequences of her mistake and the situation got crazy. (Perfectly understandable) She stood strong, didn't break and prosecution over played their hand. You don't charge someone with first degree murder just because the media and public is outraged. You actually have to prove she "intentionally" killed her daughter...and they never came close to that. She's cool 😎
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@nyun if you killed someone and was in the interrogation room, you would act like her. People on the internet pretend that they are some better human beings, only to show their nature when they stuck in the same position with the woman they deemed horrible few minutes ago. Yes, suffocate a child is bad, very bad actually, but we are all here to take a look at her characteristics more than her act, and this is just so funny to see guys on internet pretend like they can do better than her or even acts more "civilize" during interrogation.
@Pet3r38 lol I'm being a little facetious but I'm not "trolling." She's not a danger to society and the moral outrage towards her was a little ridiculous. Like I said "she's actually pretty cool" (as long as you don't take her to seriously lol) 2) What she did was pretty bad but most of the people that hate her are currently fighting for a womans right to abort their child. (Seems kinda hypocritical)
@Cody Senn lol if I'm a troll, I'm not a very good one. (If I wanted to troll I'd say she was innocent) 2) Not my fault u guys have unhealthy hatred towards Casey lol
@Anna Rose I know, right? From the people justifying the verdict in the comments, I gather that they don't think there was sufficient evidence. But there was. The jury seems to have been manipulated by the defense attorney. (I don't really blame him for that, exactly. That was his job.) But to me, it means the jury members were either stupid to be that easily manipulated or uncaring about the truth and the welfare of society and any future children she has.
Her best friend exclaiming “if anything happens to that baby, I’ll die” only for Casey to say “oh my god calling you guys was a total waste..” is absolutely heartbreaking. Her best friend cared more about her child than she did.
It also makes it sound like this friend was aware that something was wrong. Like she did not trust Casey to take care of her own child. Maybe there were other ugly things happening before the murder.
Yeah this whole thing is tragic but I just couldn't help but to find it funny when she said, "I'm glad everybody is at my house," when Christina got on the phone.
right? the way she got tired of hearing her friends and family ask about Caylee... like woman, thats your child. they ask because theyre worried, how are you gonna get upset they care for her wellbeing? Absolute insanity.
Also, on that first phone call with her family, she immediately gets so freaking snappy with them once she realises that they're not buying her stupid alibi. She sounds like she's ANNOYED whenever they bring up Caylee instead of getting her boyfriend's number (like how tf is that gonna help anyway lmao)
Yes...the friend actually cared, and Casey was pissed off that the friend was devoting attention to Caylee's welfare instead of feeling sorry for Casey. That's a big tell that Casey doesn't understand how human emotions and empathy work. She has no frame of reference for emotion as it applies to anything but herself.
Cause she wasn't getting the attention on that phone call... as soon as her friend says I'm on your side Casey calmed down and was all sweet I know honey etc.. then when her friend mentions Caylee and how much she loved that child, Casey gets all snotty and defensive saying call you guys was a waste... sounds like she was a bit jealous of the love and attention her 2 year old got just my opinion
@barbara seymour And what more equal, unbiased, and wholly representative method do you propose should replace the jury?
A single, all-powerful judge (aka a bench trial for every criminal case)? Leaving the fate of someones life entirely up to one person who, although they swear to be objective, can truly decide any which way they want for whatever reason they want?
Or are you suggesting we replace a jury with mob justice? Whichever party, be it the state or the defendant, is louder and more influential regardless of the means by which they access that influence is judged to be the victor (reminiscent of the Salem Witch Trials)?
Or maybe trial by combat is what you mean. Give the two parties a sword each and whoever is still breathing at the end is clearly and factually the correct party.
Or, now that I think about it, the method used that was much more reliable and impartial than a randomly selected jury of your peers was the 9th-12th century English method: The accused person would pick up a glowing hot iron rod with their bare hands and hold it for 3 seconds. If after 3 days the wound had begun to heal, this proved that God was on their side and therefore they were clearly innocent.
Or how about we just go with "Ball Dont Lie" and the accused just has to chuck up a 3 pointer and if they splash that shit then they innocent as FUGGGG my dude.
Its easy to criticize current Western systems of law, politics, economics etc. by pointing out the minority of cases in which that system works imperfectly and shows its flaws. Its much MUCH harder to actually defend that criticism and actually offer a solution (which somehow not one of history's greatest philosophical minds has been able to think up and implement) rather than just point out something that everyone already sees is blatantly obvious. Some people dont have enough food. War is bad, Politics is corrupt. Cool, we know. Now what do we do about it.....?
@barbara seymour And btw, the claim that "lawyers and judges can eliminate some" is true, but those decisions as well as the final appointment of the jurors has to be agreed upon by both the defendant and the prosecutor, so in the end it is 100% fair
@Saksham thats why you don’t let normal everyday people decide who go to jail and whose not. Seriously a jury is the stupidest thing ever. You cant trust that kind of responsibility to random people. You need people who studied the law, are unbiased, can tell lying from the truth, don’t fall for charisma or manipulation. You need professionals!
@Kevin Saviro even if there was a group of "professionals" could you look at this case in hindsight and say that they could have convicted Casey based on the evidence? I wouldn't put money on that.
The only thing that ties Casey to Caylee's death is that she's her Mother and as far as anyone involved knows she was the last one to see her alive, the fact that she waited 31 days to call the police is odd and non-sensical to everyone else, but it's not proof of homicide
The thing about the judicial system is checks and balances and it's unfair at times, there's innocent people who go to jail and there's extremely guilty individuals that walk free
As long as it works even some of the time it's fairer and more balanced than anything else we could create even in this day and age without impeding upon freedoms - remember innocent until proven guilty in a court of law
So sad that Caylee got stuck with her for a mom, literally anyone else in her short life would’ve been a better guardian. All Casey had to fucking do was say “I can’t (don’t would probably be a better word but whatever) take care of her” and give her up to her parents or friend.
@vidura it’s weird ill be honest i was just like her at that age . A mess . but i had a great mother and i was honest i made the best choice for him at the time . she had two great parents who literally begged to see kaylee . why not leave her there ??? i just don’t understand
@Mimu Mi Casey 100% abused Kaylee prior to the murder. That type of thing doesn’t just come out of nowhere, and she clearly had no regard for her child’s well-being. A part of the friend probably knew
If my babysitter’s phone dies and I don’t get an answer almost immediately I go into a straight panic. The cops would be called if my kid wasn’t back by the end of the night. She doesn’t even theoretically understand the aspect of loving and protecting your child.
No, she sure didn’t deserve that sweet little girl. I agree with you. The moment my babysitter’s phone is out of service I’m at the police station. Period. My child is my whole entire world… this I just cannot fathom. At all.
We know there had been a dead body in the back of her car, she didn’t report her missing u until others noticed, she searched how to suffocate someone, and she lied to the police constantly. How the prosecution fumbled this is beyond me
Her dad was a cop for 30+ years, do you really think she needed a Google search to find out that information? In another interview the dad gets asked, “what type of person would do this?”, the dad replied, “I don’t know who”. You would think a cop with 30+ years experience would have a very good idea as to what “Type” of person could have done this, especially within your community.
Wow. First, she lied her parents, was discovered for it, and faced no repercussions. Then, she lied to the police, was discovered for it, and faced little to no repercussions. Then, she lied to the world, was discovered for it, and despite everything pointing to no other explanation rather than her, she faced no repercussions and now lives under the radar, and runs her own PI firm. It is so disgusting how she had so much confidence she could get away with anything she tried it on law enforcement, and unbelievably, it worked. One can only imagine how cocky she is now about being able to get away with anything. It genuinely is making me feel queasy.
She runs her own business? Who in his right mind would hire her for ANYTHING? Write your book, Casey. I love to read but I will NOT be reading anything you write.
Casey's mentality through this whole thing is "Uuugghhhh... I feel like all we ever do is talk about this dead daughter of mine. Change the record already."
when christina said “if anything happened to that baby i’ll die.” in tears and Casey decides to say “calling you guys is such a waste.” is actually disgusting
Some people are not supposed to be parents, and should never become parents. For the sake of the kids. I know everyone should have the freedom to have a family if they want one, but some people are monsters and not fit for it…
@DC ironically no matter what experiences have caused to you formulate your beliefs, this is the comment section to a video that tells a tale, that clearly shows karma does not exist. And do not even start with the shit about long enough timeline, just wait etc... this lady had the exact opposite of karma happen and it has been that way for a long time. It is not a unique story either, plenty of shitters out there that never got any in return for their wrong doings and made it all the way to the grave like that. Karma is a fairytale whatever makes you happy, but if you want to know what the real stuff is, it is Vengeance. Similarly, all the fluffy bullshit from her parents just allowed Casey's ego to grow and become a monster over time. What she needed was discipline growing up, not a bullshit gradation party ffs.
@DC I mean you say and vice versa, but do you mean it? If you truly didn't care what I thought would you be replying every 30 minutes with some "clever" comment?
@A R your previous comment was longer than all my other comments put together and you accused me of rambling. The cheek of you, lol. Good bye now. Will deffo he muting you.
@DC you're rambling in an attempt to win a conversation that doesn't call for a winner. On a YouTube comment section of a kid killer. What is your goal here?
@Gayle Dimitri Apparently she gets drinks thrown in her face when she goes to bars, now. I’d call that at least a bit of karma.
Oh, yeah, and as another commenter said, it’s interesting that when her child goes missing, she doesn’t call the police for 31 days, but when she gets a drink thrown at her, the police are called, immediately.
@Jotaro97 Consider this: kharma might not be some mystical force but people reaping the consequences of their actions. If someone is a liar, soon they won't have trustworthy friends.
. And extremely telling. Anyone else watching this for the 4th time pining for the channel? And how many times have your hopes been up clicking on a random 'JCS inspired' vid only to feel let down and a little foolish? There will only EVER be one JCS
@DC Karma is something that misunderstood Westerners deified as a coping mechanism to the reality that life is inherently unfair and that brutalists can live wonderful lives as those who do everything correctly are steamrolled.
@jerrythemailman yes. At least you admit that it's something and that it exists. She'll get what she deserves eventually. Maybe even while taking her last breath. It's not yours or my decision, I suppose it helps to identify Karma when you see it happening to someone instantly and for no apparent reason after that person performed a nasty deed on someone and it blew back in their face drastically, we call that karma, it happens and it exists whether you believe it or not. I suppose you could call it a force moreso than a thing, but it's there.
@Jotaro97 yes it definitely does, written in Bhagwat Gita, said by Shri Krishna, the lord supreme. And definitely experienced by me and so many people.
@TriggerHappy I believe she didn’t want her kid. I think she wanted to get an abortion. I’m not at all saying what she did is ok, not at fucking all, but she was forced to have a baby she did not want. And this was tragically the result of that.
@Jotaro97 you never seen instant karma videos on YouTube then...
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@Jotaro97 Karma is a name for natural principle that applies to all things in the universe,that everything u do has a ripple effect.And to say that it doesn't exist is like saying my mother doesn't have sex with my father.And to say that its all fake because it comes from a religious believe is also like saying " my ex doesn't really like his new girlfriend cuz he's my ex and he didn't love me ".
@DC How would it not be karma as well? She got away, free to do anything she wants. If she had been convicted, it would have been karma. I agree, it would be an effective justice system at work, but it would also be karma.
@DarkRahl69 Yes! my words exactly, nice. I was trying to convey to others that Karm a doesn't exist either. Unless they are either into Hinduism or Buddhism.
@Lee Street JCS ARE the GOLD STANDARD eh? I forgot about Matt ... He's up there as well nipping at their heels mind. There's one more as well but I can't think who it is atm. There's a shit load of pretenders that really have no business attaching themselves to this name whatsoever. I probably said all this in my last comment but I can't find it so if I'm repeating myself then..... repeating myself th ....😁
@Rachel Barela I can tell anyone and everyone I meet what I believe should I wish to, but I can't force them to believe it, that is their choice. She may have a longer life ahead than upto now, and anything could happen to her, and if she's squashed by a semi truck on the freeway and scooped up into a body bag with a shovel 17 years from now, the first conclusion most would come to is "Karma", the very existence of the word " karma" proves it exists, whether or not it is just imagined or is actually a thing. But I believe it does, I've seen it in action, and there's millions of videos on this platform titled "instant karma". But millions of people would use the term "coincidence".
@DC I’d hope so, but she’s 36, it’s been so long since the incident and she’s still living a decent life. If karma existed she’d be in jail or dead but the world just isn’t fair sometimes
@L O I said what I meant. That "social consequence" was one example. Another would be by taking the easy path one reinforces poor behavior that would be limit one's life choices.
People tell themselves karma exists because the alternative and reality is that the universe is indifferent. People who tend to do bad things end up making mistakes that pile up and they’re unable to escape consequences forever. Most inevitably end up slipping and people mistake this is as some sort of proof of karma. There are some who truly never have to pay for their actions and Casey could very well end up being one of those
@DC if karma exists, what did the baby/child do to deserve death? Or are you saying that karma is going to affect their reincarnations? You make no sense
What I don't get, and no one is talking about, is the horrible accusation by CA's lawyer, that her father was RAPPING her when she was young... while her father and mother are QUIETLY sitting in the courtroom and listening to this! ACCEPTING basically to be dragged in the mud??? I just don't get it. Obviously it's a disgusting lie from the lawyer to gain sympathy for CA and to explain why she lies all the time... but HOW can her parents, after everything they have done for her, support her, helping her with Caley (that's what CA tell them while in jail)... how can they COMPLY with that defense?? And not come forward and say it's total BS! It's the only time CA can't even hold crying, while her lawyer is stating that horrible accusation, because she's so ashamed TO TARNISH HER DAD IN FRONT OF THE WORLD... but it's necessary to HER defense. It makes no sense, because her mother wouldn't be sitting next to her father if it was true, and shouldn't support CA if it's not. They even comply with the drowning theory and that they all covered it???? I don't get all that... they should have been KEY WITNESSES for Caley.
@Syl D yeah but she's still their daughter, and they see highly of her, and seeing their reactions should be a bit less surprising considering that we'd have already witnessed these parents' foolish (or perhaps over-considerate) endeavours of defending against the damning evidence supporting the absence of attendance for her education, throwing an extravagant party that claimed she graduated with "honours."
Her attorney was like “they painted her as this person who lies” while his opening statement was basically “Casey lies to protect herself” Evil genius.
Let’s start a petition to reopen this case. Please someone with right knowledge start the petition - we can’t let a murderer roam free of killing her child. Disgusting !!
@G R The point of double jeopardy is to protect the innocent people facing trial. If we didn’t have that as a right in the constitution, what would stop the system from continually retrying someone until they eventually got a jury that fit their interests? It’s just awful but lawful
@G R it’s a sacrifice for liberty that we have to take unfortunately. The amount of injustice that would be able to be carried out if you could try someone as many times as you want is unthinkable.
I am just in shock at how she is acting.... it's insane! How that jury let her off the hook is unbelievable to me! Wonder if they regret their decision after the fact? How this woman lives with herself every day is a complete mystery
@Farmer Fpv The hell does being a white guy have to do with anything? Zenaida Gonzalez was some random Hispanic woman from halfway across the country, and her name was dragged into it too.
The prosecution proved time and again with proof that everything Casey said was a lie but somehow the jury found a complete lair innocent that blows my mind she’s the most guilty person in history she makes OJ look like honest Abe.
He never said he never met Casey or didn't know her. He said he wouldn't consider her a friend....but "more or less acquaintances". The rest of your comment however i agree with, it would be a terrible accusation, but fortunately easily proven to be a lie with the facts.
@I state the truth And people get upset okay, I'll say it. She never should have been a mother. If she wasn't willing to give up the child for adoption, which she probably would have without her parents begging her not to, then she should have had an abortion.
@I state the truth And people get upset for the child to have died as a fetus that felt no pain or confusion, rather than an almost three year old who suffered greatly at the hands of her mother, would have in this case been a mercy. So, yeah. And I don't suggest anyone consider abortion as a first option, but if it prevents you from murdering your child years later, then I'd say it's the right call. Now go away.
@John Smith I’m pro-choice, so I’ll say it 😁 instead of literally murdering her child at three years old, or when she was a fully formed human who was cognizant and able to feel pain (unlike a fetus), she should have had an abortion. If anything, this case should show to u that abortion is necessary. Women who don’t want kids will grow up to resent them and can possibly kill them and get away with it. Is that what u want?
The craziest thing is that she didn’t face any repercussions for it... it was an obvious lie and she wasn’t even charged with lying to law enforcement.
Thats psychopaths for you. She mentioned him to lead the police his way without directly saying he’s a suspect. It was honestly really smart and would’ve probably worked if she acted more empathetic.
@Josh 4 Oh yeah? By whining about how "white people got this shit ez" you're claiming that by being white, he by default have gotten a better life, and if you're not white, you don't. That's not trying to say, "look at me, I'm not white, I have it so much harder"?
The way the daughter talked to her parents in a horrible way. Like wow I feel bad for the parents . It’s obvious she’s a manipulator and pushes her parents. Wow the phone call of her in jail calling her parents was hard to listen to
@i2ay I love this reference. “Jeff” was the man. Never once have I wanted a follow up from a interrogation before. I want to see what our boy Jeff has been up to.
@brad titt ok and? the guy in this story just happened to be white, how does this video "make you feel scared for your safety in the US" also there was a woman who actually had the same name as zenaida, who wasn't white, and wasnt male, and she was questioned by police. stop trying to make yourself a victim when you arent one
@Nugget i was replying to the guy who said " Whites really do have the most issues in today's society.
Hopefully things will change in the near future" in america this guy really said that shit, white people have different problems with other races, but as a white male, in the middle class, compared to other races i feel that i dont have the same struggle
@John Smith Lol buddy, you're the one without sources. I just cited objective facts, nothing I said was controversial or my opinion. You can't argue with the stats, my guy. If you think I'm wrong about the information I gave you: prove it. Just saying "you're uneducated" is intellectully dishonest and lazy.
@John Smith because saying that she should have had an abortion is pointless. It does nothing to change the case. Supporting the right to have an abortion doesn't mean you hate children. It means quite the opposite. We want people to have children when they are able to provide them a good home environment so idk how you came to this conclusion. People who are pro- choice seem to care about children than anti- abortionists do. Y'all just want to bring children into this world with no consideration of how they are actually going to be cared for. If you value life so much why don't you donate to charities? Or try being a foster parent, donate to food drives, donate some used clothes, be an advocate for ending child abuse, or volunteer to help people during natural disasters? Caring about a clump of cells isn't making the world better nor is it fulfilling God's wishes, doing all you can to help your community and spread love is.
This comment section won’t age well for most you. Their already passing laws allowing abortions up to the point of birth and denying medical care to viable children. You guys should look up these new laws in NY and VA specifically. This is just the natural escalation of these policies. And sadly, by the end of my life time I fully expect to see infanticide legalized.
Yeah, I feel so bad for him. And for the real Zaneida Fernandez Gonzalez. I bet she got some amount of hate from idiots before that particular lie of Casey’s unravelled...
@Johnny Sins that's not comparable. a living child is not the same as an unborn fetus. if, god forbid, you had a miscarriage, would that be comparable to manslaughter? is that wilful neglect? don't exploit the death of an innocent child.
And the jury still believed she was innocent of it all. TF?! I mean only thing that makes sense to me at this point is that they all were threatened and had their loved ones kidnapped.
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Same with zenaida and the other woman she claimed she worked with lmao none of these people knew her which proves her story was completely fabricated. Idk how she got away with this. That prosecutor was shit
@Johnny Sins actually, I think she should have had an abortion. She actually wanted one, but her parents talked her out of it. So yeah, this could have all been solved with a pill.
@Nabs 2099 i was violently attacked in Portland last year by a group of 3 men and 2 women. I was knocked down and then kicked to the point i was knocked out. I woke up in the hospital 2 days later black and blue from bruises with 3 broken ribs and a punctured lung. A homeless person witnessed the attack and called the police which is the only reason i wasn't killed. The police came and asked me questions and a couple days later 2 of the 5 were arrested, when they were asked why they attacked me they said it was because i was a white male and people like me had it coming. I had never seen any of these people that did this before nor had i ever spoke to them, they attacked me for no other reason than my skin color.
@JESUS Name Above All Names funny, because this actual murder is exactly what happens when folks like you force someone to carry a fetus they don't want and can't care for. The so-called "pro-life" community is far more complicit to this situation than the pro-choice community could ever be
@Frankie Moore they can always put up for adoption. It’s 2021 and there’s almost no excuse for having a child without wanting one. Even in cases of rape, they should get checked out immediately, especially since we have a lot more programs that help victims.
@Frankie Moore she could have always put it up for adoption. Also, there really are a lot of resources out there for raped women and i helped one get in touch with a few, so maybe you never really cared to look. Please don’t talk about matters in which you don’t have all the information about. Also what’s wrong with abstinence? We also have condoms for cents at your local pharmacy and have condoms being used in teen programming. There really isn’t an excuse. Also, I’m not sure what adoptive home you’re talking about that starves their children, maybe it’s in your state and that really needs to be looked into as it’s funded by the state government.
@Damion Manuel abortion isn't killing a human, it's removing an embryo, and i literally never once remotely tried to justify Casey's heinous and completely inexcusable actions here.
@Damion Manuel it will become a human, sure. But it isn't yet. Similar to how sperm can become a human, but i don't hear you people crying over masterbatory emissions. If you had a frozen embryo in a Petri dish, and a fully living breathing baby, and you had to choose between them which would live and which would die, which would you choose? If they're really the same to you, the choice should be impossible.
Also, i can guarantee whatever manipulative videos you've seen are not remotely accurate to what abortion actually is. Those "tiny person" removals tend to be the removal of an already passed or non viable fetus, one whose parents wanted and loved them. Also, no murdering a child will never be legal by making abortion safe and accessible, because an actual living human doesn't need to reside in the body of another human like a parasite to survive. Also Caylee was a fully realized human being with thoughts and feelings and a life ahead of her. The same cannot be said for an embryo or fetus. Casey Anthony was a selfish, evil woman for murdering a toddler. But abortion isn't murder, and really has nothing to do with this story so I'm a little confused as to why it was brought into the discussion. And if your body isn't one that can carry a pregnancy, your opinion on this isn't relevant. If it is a body that can carry a pregnancy, your opinions apply only to yourself and your body. You have no right to make that very difficult, personal, and nuanced decision for anyone else.
@Damion Manuel the bible never speaks against abortion, and even if it did all sin is equal so maybe you should be more worried about your own judgement day
Also imagine being named Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez and you just get accused of kidnapping someone's child. I think they found a woman with that name, but luckily she was let go because she clearly had no clue who Casey Anthony is
@Joseph Brandon They literally look up the nannies name and pulled some poor hispanic woman, and it's not speculation either it's literally stated in the video that she lied and that the nanny never fucking existed. Watch the video.
@Joseph Brandon 'and looked into the nanny' like. it's quite evident you came here to defend a murderer and never watched the film or looked at the evidence.
@Johnny Sins well, yeah. there’s a huge difference between a two year old and a fetus that doesn’t even think. i would say that this incident actually supports abortions, so that awful women like casey don’t end up with a child.
@Libby Daniel I mean, I probably wouldnt have said anything, but for a simple reason.
I am a white guy. If another white guy pulls race/gender into it when I dont think it belongs, I feel pretty confident in calling bullshit. But if a black guy shows any signs of doing that, it's not really my place to say anything because its harder to relate.
@Farmer Fpv I understand your concern however I think your statement is ignorant,you realise as a white male you have ton of privilege?And are very unlikely to be randomly accused.Instead there are others who are more likely to be assaulted purely because of who they are.Not accused but brutally murdered and assaulted purely because they are POC or a feminine looking person or a person of the lgbtqia community and even religion.Therefore meaning their well-being is well,not good and in constant danger,please re evaluate your statement as although I understand it is very disrespectful and ignorant.
@Johnny Sins well yeah,she could have had an abortion,but your completely ignoring the circumstances,she already had a child?The child is alive?The child is three years old?Thats why people care for the child?Your point about abortion isn’t even related,right now we are talking about a living,breathing,walking child with a life and not a foetus?And to be fair I think she shouldn’t have had a child at all if she want ready.But she did,so we don’t talk about what she could have done when the child wasn’t even born but rather what she could have done as the child is alive.
@Jake J would you mind telling me your so called issues?Your statement just shows that your ignorant to all the people being murdered and assaulted purely because they are poc.I have never heard of a white person being murdered because they are white but it happens to literally every single other race.Instead of playing victim please do your research and listen to people of colour.Also by saying “blacks” you are objectifying black people and dehumanising them,rather than saying “blacks”,multiple black people have said they prefer to be referred as black people as it is not de humanising and its basic respect,you don’t refer to other white people as “whites” do you?
@Nugget your so close,so so close,white people do have it easier because they’re white,that doesn’t mean we don’t experience hardships,we can be poor as you mentioned yes,but we won’t experience the same things as poc people because they’re poc
@Lisethelizard This is a long time ago, and I have no idea what is being discussed, but sure. You experience different difficulties, of course. 100%. How would you presume to know who has it harder, if you've only really experienced your own? Are these differences really that monumental and defining of your struggles in life that you have to draw the line? We have more issues that bind us as one that we do separate.
@Nugget I am white so I can safely say as a white person I have never been pushed back and oppressed because of my race but I know from listening to other experiences people are being attacked for being poc which I wanted to highlight.But you do have a point,people are also being pushed back because of their gender and just in general their identity.There are lots of issues as you stated but we have to listen to other people with those experiences and push their voices.Your right that all people experience their own struggles and we don’t know what a person has experienced but we are not being oppressed because we are white and I just wanted to emphasis that white people have privilege and can never understand the struggle other people go through becuse of their race or like sexual orientation and so we need to be open minded and not pretend that these issues don’t exist.I’m sorry I think I accidentally went of track,so tell me if I did and need to re explain.
My question is how did she know about Jeff? I know she's a pathological liar and kid killer. But the people in her made up story are actually real. How did she know of their existence
@Johnny Sins a 2 weeks fetus isnt a 3 years old child, you doofos, that's why no one is bringing in abortion, cause they're literally two separate thing that a sane person can separate.
@Jay Remí "infanticide legalized" LMAO YOU'RE DELUSIONAL. If you educated yourself about the NY and VA bill you'd see that abortion before birth ONLY allowed when the mother's life is at risk. But of course y'all dont bother knowing what you're talking about lmao.
@Vince Nav She does tho. Theres a woman irl named Zenaida Gonzalez. She wasnt mentioned in the video because Casey made her name up, but the woman does exist.
@Vince Nav Pretty sure the police even talked to her but the whole time it was procedural and they knew she wasnt involved. She was still dragged into it tho, nonetheless
@Vince Nav "Orlando Police Department. Yeah, some woman from halfway across the country that youve never met, she just claimed that you were the last person to see her missing daughter."
@Vince Nav we weren’t talking about racism. we were talking about how being white doesn’t affect this example in this video. i know racism happens to both white and black people in america
@Vince Nav how could a white woman who only brought Jeff into the case because she knew him once be an act of racism? race was never a part of this and then that person said that “as a white male i am scared of my well-being in the united states.” it rubbed me the wrong way. white people may have different problems from say, black people and the other way around, but i disagreed with his statement
@Josh 4 how I saw it, I just thought he was just bringing in another topic irrelevant to what OP is saying lol. That's where my misunderstanding came from cus I alwags see people bringing that topic up when it has nothing to do with the original topic.
@Lisethelizard And being non-white I can say that the racial majority in a country, white, in this case, has the unique privilege of being the only race capable of racism and being punished, financially, psychologically and physically, without due process. Of course, one can also argue that this is less common or less severe than non-whites who suffer from violence, ostracization and the lack of accumulated wealth due to historical reasons. Whites are being oppressed for being white in that they can not voice any opinions on minority issues other than in support, even at a detriment to themselves out of fear of this repercussion, and non-whites are being oppressed for being non-white by being placed on the back-foot when it comes to social, economic standing, as well as racial injustice, violent or otherwise. I would then argue that playing the racial victim card to silence a white person by dismissing his concerns and life experiences not only plays into this oppression of white people, but also dismisses all non-racial hardships in their life. This does absolutely nothing to gain their empathy in fighting injustice, but serves to make an enemy out of them by drawing the line in the sand: This is you, this is us. Instead of looking at each other and seeing color, look at each other and see a person. If you faced an issue along racial lines, blame the person who did it, not his race.
@Farmer Fpv as a Japanese person who is right handed (I also really like green tea) and likes to paint, I don’t safe feel in the USA rn :( Did I also mention I like salmon as well?
@Johnny Sins bottom line is casey is an unfit mother. she knew from the start she did not want caylee. she should have aborted or let her parents adopt caylee.
but it obviously didn’t work out that way, so we are angry that this child had to live almost three years of her life with a sorry excuse for a mother who made her entire life a living hell rather than adopting her out or terminating the pregnancy the minute she knew she didn’t want caylee, which i presume was early on.
@Johnny Sins Even many pro-lifers would immediately notice how ridiculous it is to compare an abortion to the killing of a 3 year old. Whether you personally agree with abortion or not, it is clearly illogical to say it is equivalent to murdering a 3 year old. Even if you disagree with abortion to the extent that you think it's murder you know that comparison is beyond ridiculous with a moment's thought.
She is literally pulling a kayzer zozer !! Lie till you burn their ears off, lie, lie, lie, tell stories never leading to anywhere. And she got away with it!!!
@Johnny Sins do you have any sources for 54% of abortions being done in the third trimester? As far as I can see from official numbers, only 1.4% are late term abortions in the US, which is defined as late second trimester (21 weeks) or later.
@Josh 4 I believe the term you're looking for is white privilege. being that white people are afforded certain privileges based on race. this however doesn't mean they can't suffer or be discriminated against
@Johnny Sins and you should give some citations cause your statistics are wrong. You prob got it from some incel Reddit post. Cite a MEDICAL report of those stats … I’ll wait. Cause I know those stats are so far off
@good do you have any idea how awful most people that take in fosters are ? Even if you get lucky and adopted by a good family … that feeling of one day knowing you weren’t with your real family causes all kinds of psychological problems
@Jessica Rich she very well could have been charged with attempts to delay and resists officers or for perjury but she served more time in jail waiting on her trial that what the time she’d be sentenced would be so would have gotten time served anyways ..I never heard her getting charged with anything like that but she def should have so at least it would have been on her record…but guilty or not her life will forever be impacted and people are going to still look at her guilty and treat her that way because of all the publicity this case got so at least there’s a little bit of justice in that of nothing else but def not enough …idk how she didn’t even get a child neglect charge for her not calling the cops earlier
@Johnny Sins the child was born and neglected which led to death.. it would’ve been more humane to have an abortion or even put up for adoption since she was so clearly not fit to be a parent.
@Millinois The point is that a guy tried saying "I feel so scared as a white guy", when Zenaida Gonzalez, an actual hispanic woman (look her up), got dragged into it too.
My point is, its not about race or gender, as was framed by somebody else. Its just about ppl with unfortunate names being dragged into something they had nothing to do with
@Al Bundy Jury system is way past its use-by date. Get rid of it. People are too dumb and they are NOT random after the lawyers and judges have their say.
@Johnny Sins Too-young Casey really didn’t know what it would be like to have a child, to have to care for it 24 hours a day, pretty much give up one’s freedoms at the age 19-22…..until reality struck after the birth. Then the rot set in.
@B my Valentine who knows for sure, but out of all the names that were put forward I would say that Michael Duggan makes the most sense to me. Two things I DO know for sure are 1) that it's not me, and 2) If you ever date Casey, never under any circumstances get into a car.
@Johnny Sins dude, why don’t you prove your loyalty to the cause adopting some incest, crack babies. I have a friend who was born addicted, pimped by he mom, then impregnated twice by her uncle. Then, both kid were put into foster care system. So, I say adopt
@B my Valentine that’s really unfortunate but let’s not forget this is extremely rare and the number of abortions in one month are greater than the amount of all murders committed by “pro-lifers”.
@Johnny Sins um…. Because she was a living child who got murdered at 3 years old and not a zygote? Because we were focused on the fact that this woman should be held accountable for murdering her toddler? Jesus Christ, give me a fucking break. Also, “pro choice” isn’t about DEMANDING that people have abortions, it’s about CHOICE. The ability to make the CHOICE to give birth or abort. This includes making resources available to women who WOULD want to keep it otherwise so that they don’t have to feel like abortion is their only option.
@Tim Tebow can you link a news article about your attack? I live in Portland and think I would have heard about a 12 year old being beaten almost to death just for being white...
At least he actually existed and sort of knew her. Imagine being a woman named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez who never even met Casey and who Casey didn't even know actually existed
@Johnny Sins this is kindergarten version of a bad faith argument. i know that simple little rebuttals like this give you the illusion of "gotcha" but they just make you look silly. surely you understand that, right? the premise is "if a pregnant woman knows she does not want to be a mother, she should choose another option, be it adoption or abortion" this is a pro-choice response to the question. what your straw man argument does is replace the actual position "a woman's own decision on how to respond to a pregnancy" with your fallacious "straw man" being that pro-choice advocates "think babies should be aborted." No one PROMOTES abortion. Women who've had an abortion don't talk glowingly about how great of a time it was and how they can't WAIT to do it again. It's traumatic and sad, frequently done alone both physically and emotionally. It's not something that is taken lightly and is STRICTLY between a woman, her doctor, and anyone SHE wants to be part of it. and you, Johnny, should politely stfu and mind your own business.
@Zakc Odom Exactly. If you are white, and you talk about white people (or any other) ; you have to be a racist. If you are any other and talk about whites; it is not racist. I can't see how he did not know that. Jeebus. I think we should report him to authorities.
@Johnny Sins Maybe its because the kid feels pain and emotion? My first thought was if she killed the kid she should've aborted it before the poor thing feels pain and emotion.
@Bri I’m generally pro choice but I also think women (and their partners) can VERY easily protect themselves during sex. People speak as if the pill or condoms don’t exist just because they’ve gotta either go out of their way to get them or they diminish the pleasure of sex.
I can't imagine that. That's wild, man. That one coworker you see now and then but really don't interact with. Then all of a sudden you have to testify at their murder trial. WTF.
@Farmer Fpv I don't thin people understand the premise behind your worries - sounds like they did not pay attention to Brett Kavanaugh's trial and the boatload of other "Me Too" cases that have sprung up over the past years. I'm right there with you since I have already had my short-lived fair share of women dragging us through mud.
@Johnny Sins Lmaoooo "this long" just points out how horrendously awful your attention span is :) you have till now given absolutely no points after the person proved you wrong than just an excessive amount of annoying emojis (something to expect from someone whose username is literally "Johnny Sins" & I'm still waiting ⌚
@Johnny Sins weird how you want to turn this into a discussion about your political views. If you’re wondering why people tend to think pro “life” people are crazy… this is why.
@Farmer Fpv you never been Mexican we get hate from the black community and white community it’s honestly sad we all love the homies personality over anything bro
There was also a real Zenaida Gonzales who had nothing to do with Caylee or Casey, but received so much abuse that she had to file a defamation lawsuit.
@STRONGEST NATTY IN THE WORLD. they care for the child because it died as a sentient, pain feeling 3 year old not an fetus without a fucking consciousness.
@STRONGEST NATTY IN THE WORLD. I was bringing Casey Anthony up to a friend of mine and his first comment was why didn't she get an abortion if she was going to kill her kid. People absolutely thought this. Your comment is ignorant
My cousin murdered his dad (my uncle). He's currently serving life in prison in Louisiana's Angola prison. He's my own blood and I never once wanted him to get away with it. I couldn't imagine how it would feel if he had gotten away with it.
It’s “innocent until proven guilty.” You can only convict someone if there’s “beyond a reasonable doubt.” That’s the legal system. One we should all be thankful for.
I believe Casey did it, however, with that said, I also believe the jury performed their obligation. It’s okay to be upset with the reality that you believe someone who is guilty is walking free, but don’t be mad at a jury for correctly following their civil duty by not finding someone guilty, when they believe there was “reasonable doubt.”
@Rob Oc The story that the defense came up with regarding her dad being an accomplice, for the “drowning accident.”
That and the fact that no one has been able to determine when she died and for sure how she died. Just theories.
Haven’t determined if it was intentional or accidental. (At the time, the internet search results WERE NOT discovered. Only after the case was it.)
The only people to truly blame is the prosecution- NOT the jury. It’s the prosecutors job to make sure they have a slam dunk, no doubts about it case when going for a Murder in the 1st Degree charge.
If it wasn’t a total slam dunk, which it wasn’t unfortunately, they should have gone for something more lax like child neglect, accidental death, manslaughter, etc.
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Rob Oc2022-05-18 19:02:27 (edited 2022-05-18 19:04:11 )
@Crystal Skulls If I was on that jury, we'd still be deliberating to this day. Too many lies and coercion. A innocent mother wouldn't carry on like that
@Rob Oc I agree, but “an innocent mother wouldn’t behave like x, y, and z” isn’t evidence.
The jury performed their civil duty correctly. The followed their responsibility correctly, and came back with a verdict that followed the law. Not their feelings/assumptions/beliefs of what happened.
@Crystal Skulls that is dumb so what do they need to convict a person a video while she is killing her kid? that never happens, there was more then enough proof she was guilty. the kid is dead doesn't matter how she died, she sure did not drown in a pool! there is no reason to put duct tape on a child even less on a dead child that drowned in a pool
@G R There is no proof that it was Caylee in the car. They’re only guessing by saying it smells like death. They couldn’t confirm it was her DNA. Plus, it would take more than just DNA, as it would make sense for them to find DNA, such as a hair follicle, anywhere in the car.
HOW she died matters in that then it can be determined what charge to pursue- 1st degree, second degree, manslaughter, etc. If we can’t even determine how she died, then it’s impossible to determine what charge to go for.
Once again, I believe Casey is guilty. However, the prosecutors are at fault for not presenting a solid enough case, beyond reasonable doubt, that Casey killed Caylee in 1st degree- as in not an accident, she planned it, and executed said plan. The prosecutors couldn’t prove it.
@G R When she died matters because it’s then easier to determine how she died (if the story of the drowning holds up or not. If Casey would have been alone with her at time of death or if her grandpa would have been.)
@G R None of us need to like the verdict. However, we DO need to all appreciate due process and a jury that doesn’t convict based on what they think, but instead what they KNOW beyond a reasonable doubt.
@G R How she died absolutely matters. Its how the prosecution is to determine what charge to seek. There is 1st Degree Murder, 2nd Degree Murder, Manslaughter, Accidental Death, Child Neglect, etc.
In order to persue said charge, it requires proving HOW someone died.
@G R You are being emotional, and therefore, illogical. I understand being emotional about this case, but in terms of the legal system, what matters are facts. Not emotions. America has this thing called "due process", which is a great and necessary thing, in order to prevent people from being wrongly imprisoned.
After she killed Caylee she kept it quiet and thought she’d make the most of it partying before she inevitably got caught. I don’t think she even considered she’d get away with it and just pretty much made up her poor alibi as she went along. It’s absolutely disgusting she wasn’t convicted. Disgusting. There needs to be something put in place for when verdicts are clearly wrong. The fact she was a young, fairly pretty, charismatic/manipulative killer resulted in the most perplexing verdict you’ll ever come across. She lied, constantly, and the fact she killed her daughter and walked away from that trial as a free woman is sickening.
hearing her friend cry over if caylee was hurt and she just responds with "calling you guys. . . waste of time" stunned me. truly painful to have everyone but her own mother care for this poor child
i was so confused as to why the best friend was taking it so personally though? i thought they kind of asked her to start crying on purpose to see if it’d get anything out of her and it didn’t work :/
@Iris Cooper You don't think one of her best friends wouldn't have been around Caylee a lot and gotten to know and love her and would be affected by anything happening to her?
@Iris Cooper I think it’s basic human empathy to cry over a 2 year old being missing, especially if it’s someone you actually know. Maybe she has nieces or nephews in her own life that are very near and dear to her so it hit home besides just the fact that she was Casey’s best friend
@jumpinjohnnyruss Casey should have just given Caylee to the friend, a family member, or put her up for adoption if she was that unhappy being a mother. Some people just aren't meant to be parents and there's nothing wrong with that. Taking the child's life to rid yourself of the child is despicable though.
@Wilhelm Hagberg overreaction? My best friend has a child that's not even one yet and I would give my life for that baby in a heartbeat. If I were in that girl's position, I would be doing everything I could to find that child and make sure she's safe. I'm genuinely curious how you think that's an overreaction
@HawtDawg I'd say lied poorly about killing someone and exaggerated your empathy to a dramatic level is equally cringe. have you ever thought by doing this where did she put the grandparents at? The brother and them were trying to keep calm and be collective, yet the friend was hysterical when she sould be one of the last people to breakdown there, she taking the call truly was a waste
@HawtDawg what I think is you can't read, I said poorly lie and dramatically react are equally cringe, just happened that in this case involved a murder of a child does not take away how out of place/position the friend's reaction was at the time. and please stop trying to accuse people are like another criminal just because you can't reason without weighing in emotions
@HawtDawg yeah you can grammar police me whatever but you still linking this to emotions, which blinds you no matter how overwhelmed she was, she was not in the position to be hysterical and can claim to die. I bet the family was exhausted yet had to spend energy on a even bigger cry baby just because she can be one? Had she thought Should she be one? We all KNOW she wouldn't die for this event, she was just overwhelmed, that is understandable. But claiming can die for some else's tragedies, like putting her family and her everything aside? There is a place for this kind of drama but it's definitely not in front at the closer family when they suffered more. Therefore the question, Who Does She Think She Is? If she indeed died, that's even a bigger problem, she makes the burden heavier than it needs to be, that she doesn't think of anyone but herself to this tragedy, so again, Who Does She Think She Is?
I did not say the mother was not horrible, in fact everyone agrees shes horrible hence discussing how horrible she/incident was, is not even worth mentioning here. What I said was the friend's not the main character here so how about be less of a burden that take away part of the attention when the family has more important problems to deal with
The amount of sociopaths in this thread tho that are baffled by being emotional over the child of your best friend being missing under suspicious circumstances.
@NM L For heaven's sake I dont think she was being literal about it. Saying "I'll die if [×] happens" is a common thing to do when something like this type of tragedy occurs. It's not being self centered, she's not claiming she will actually die for the kid, she's just expressing worry in a common way. That's it.
I'm sure that if Casey had made even a small effort in easing their worries at all, instead of at best being unempathetic and snappy, to being openly aggressive at worst, then both her friend and her family could have been less worried and emotional. Instead Casey sees her worried parents and her crying friend and can only muster contempt.
The burden here isn't the friend being worried and reacting emotionally to a child close to her being missing. People who have open emotions are not burdens. The only one burdening the family is Casey herself, acting like an utterly disgraceful human being to all those who show concern her daughter.
@MR NOBODY you are giving me stand points for MY arguments, not yours. I was not saying she was/wasn't being literal, I was saying WHETHER she was/wasnt being literal, that sentence should not have came from her mouth, no situation gives her that moment, even if she takes it dead seriously. Of course Cassy was the ultimate burden, that is fact. Exactly my point, why the friend gave EXTRA burden by being a cry baby instead of being useful.
Aal of these I had said before. You don't seem to understand what I was saying and made me repeat. Where is your point exactly?
I'm absolutely disgusted that she got away with murder with evidence that showed WITHOUT A DOUBT that she was being totally deceptive, trying to hide that fact that she had 'something' to do with her daughters disappearance and ultimate demise. Sickening!
These detectives let their emotions get the best of them in the first interview. When dealing with a narcissist like Casey, there are many interrogation techniques they could've utilized. Instead they blew up on her which is the quickest way for suspects to shut down. I understand their anger completely but I hope they took this as a lesson. It is the natural reaction to be angry but the detective reacted as a civilian with no interrogation technique training would react instead of behaving like a detective manipulating information out of a suspect.
An innocent sweet little child was suffocated by the one person that she trusted and loved the most in her little life. Casey gets to walk the rest of her days with this on her non existent conscious?!? This is one the biggest fail’s in our justice system as far as I’m concerned. I pray that karma catches up with her someday…
Watching this made me realize that kids don't get the justice they need when something like this happens and if you are a "sweet and innocent" woman that you have nothing to worry about That little girl was failed by everyone and I hope they hate themselves for allowing that woman to legitimately get away with murder
in the laws and constitutions of many countrys, there are 2 pharagrafs regarding the protecion of children if you are lucky, or if you live in Chile like i do there are two lines...
@Lexi Kitten Many people dont get justice. Innocents get sent to jail because they dont have the money to buy a good lawyer. Murderers walk free because they do.
My exact thoughts. Kinda feel bad for Universal Studios too getting their named dragged through the mud. I imagine if I worked there at the time I wouldn't feel too good about myself, even though I had nothing to do with it.
@Sniff Back Better yes!!!! Exactly what I thought! Her parents baby her and try to make her feel like everything is going to be ok when in reality they know damn well their daughter had secrets beyond hell
@Sunbin Seo well, for a friend, or boyfriend, or girlfriend, super normal. For her dad to call his daughter “Gorgeous” is Kidd, (especially considering the accusations that would come later). And the daughter to care what the father thinks of how she looks, also weird to me. Reading your post… I can understand that perspective. I was just basing it on the accusations to come.
Even worse, imagine getting murdered by your mother! Yeah, poor Jeffrey, I can't imagine how life is so hard when somebody wants to talk to you about something that's not your fault, he must be a fucking mess!..
@Jacques CA I do understand it... In fact, I feel sorry for more than one person as we speak, but I don't really see why I would feel sorry for anyone who didn't do anything wrong and is just questioned about a crazy person saying his name... I was in that situation and it was almost fun, I knew I didn't do anything wrong and I helped in the investigation, nobody should have felt sorry for me, that's all I'm sayin, sorry for rude tone, didn't mean to sound like an ass xS
@Jefferson Ott to me it sounded like her mother and father went in to talk to casey in an attempt to get more information out of her. They were faking their smiles and pretending to be happy to see her to try to get her guard down that's why her mom said that thing about "the whole country is looking for Caylee are they going to find her do you think?"
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Joseph Pereira2022-05-14 23:16:06 (edited 2022-05-15 06:08:13 )
From Chris Watts case, interrogaters got him to confess by pointing out if he didnt kill his family, why didnt he call the ambulance after he found them not breathing. Instead he decided to bury their bodies without telling anyone which just didnt make sense if he was innocent. Police/prosecution should have used this same argument for Casey and her daughter. She never called ambulance when she found daughter not breathing but instead hid daughters body in car and eventually buried her. Casey couldnt be more guilty. Very shameful.
@David Campanella defunding the police doesn't mean "pull funding", it's about reappropriating funding to more social workers and health care workers instead of treating everyone exactly the same way way - and with the same people - as domestic abusers, for instance. it's abt taking pressure OFF the police, who have to respond to EVERYTHING rn, even when arresting people won't help the community.
@Mcky McObvious the police don't have to respond to everything, they choose to...when they say they have to respond to a call to service, its not true...I've called the police to report illegal activity by police officers, government officials, and certain businesses and they said "we don't send an officer for that" even when its illegal, but people stand on public streets filming buildings legally or legally open carry a firearm and there are always several police officers ready and able to show up to the scene even though no law is being broken...reappropriating funds is a long term project that doesn't deal with the short term. A shorter term but still long term solution is to change the culture of calling the police and to stop doing it unless someone is in immediate and grave physical danger. The police officers do not want to have to respond to these calls, but the culture of policing allows them to get more funding based on more police calls and they have all the discretion on whether or not they deal with the calls. In some cities they don't even show up for shit, thats been going on for a long time.
@David Campanella homie you should want to as well considering they let this case slip right through their fingers. This only shows how useless they can be when justice goes unserved… we already dump millions of millions of dollars into our police force, and for what? Seriously, for what?
@Young Squad how did the police let this case “slip through their fingers”? She was arrested and charged. The prosecutor failed to convict her. That has nothing to do with the police.
Defunding the police and hiring more social workers is not a long term answer. You’re just hiring more people who are dependent on criminals. More poverty pimping isn’t a solution. This is a tragic, unique and bizarre case that shouldn’t be used to promote political agendas.
@BeLoW_aBoVe I mean are they not the ones who investigated this crime? Did she not lead police to an empty lot and say “oops looks like I lied”? Did the police not interrogate her, and decide that maybe they should flirt with her rather than actually do their job? Lastly, where were the police when kaylee was being murdered? To serve an protect? Sure maybe after the fact, but even then the saying makes no sense.
@Mcky McObvious When one hears the term "defund the police" it sounds a lot like "dont fund a police department." If it means something else then a better term must be used.
Her phone call to her family where she's super defensive and manipulative is sooo good. I love watching her unknowingly make it obvious that she's fucking insane.
How the hell can ANYBODY listen to the blatantly obvious lies that this creature is telling and NOT know that she murdered her daughter? Especially when you combine them with all of the circumstantial evidence?! The fact that she’s free and wasn’t buried under the prison is beyond galling. To say that it’s an injustice is an understatement.
I was baffled when this jury returned this verdict! Either the prosecution did a really terrible job building the case or Casey’s attorney was really brilliant and knew just how to approach this case! Either way, I believe the murderer was set free!
let me put it this way, as a father of two, i wouldn't wait an hour for my child to show up anywhere, let alone an infant disappear for more than 10 minutes. how the jury could decide against a conviction, i can never comprehend after the 911 call alone. she waited weeks without contacting the officials..
@Pam Lyles do you believe in the bible? Because God promises the dead will be resurrected to life on earth. I'm not sure if you know that already. You could possibly be there to welcome him back.
@Lbot beenthere I was looking into this as well, thank you for providing some more... factual information on the case.. Funny, yet disturbing, how this video is about a woman making up crazy stories, and in the comments, some people seem to buy Pam's crazy story without thinking about it...
@SIC66SIC66 I've been going through the comments and haven't see anyone defending her stories. I think you may be confusing people understanding the verdict, if no physical evidence was found that links the mother to murdering her daughter. All you have is motive based on behavior, and the mother's weird reactions to what happened with her daughter. In other words, you can infer that she was guilty on all that was presented, but you cannot convict someone without physical evidence or witnesses pointing you to the crime.
This is entirely different than saying you believe her.
@Joseph Charles not only did a autopsy show Caylee died of suffocation, but Casey's search history literally included "foolproof suffocation". She didn't just lack empathy, she straight up DID NOT CARE about the time passed or put any effort into searching for her daughter. It's pretty unbelievable for people with common sense and inability to put up with privileged people's bs. I know saying "well if she can lie about this than she could lie about that" but cmon dude she got a tattoo about how beautiful her life was with her daughter gone!! Her lack of sympathy goes beyond lying
@cranshawmccaw the point is based on all the evidence the prosecutors did provided, you shouldn't NEED physical evidence to be convinced that she was involved her daughters death somehow. Guess too much TV does that to a person though
@D J what an arrogant statement that completely misses the point I was trying to make. When you have physical evidence, it becomes easier to convict someone. Without it, it becomes harder since you have to rely on making a convincing argument based on evidence that in this case did not outright point to the mother. On top of which her history of her behavior placed a bit more doubt on her reaction. Overall, it would have been hard to convict on those grounds without letting your emotions guide you.
@John Apple It is good to see that "right to be innocent until innocent" is being practiced here, but think of how many trials there are that police are allowed to lie right through their teeth, sending innocent people into a cycle of never ending debt, simply because they were the only witness, even though cameras and audio somehow stop working in that specific time frame.
The prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
@Dutch Vandermak I agree with the Prosecution overcharging. I believe a juror even said in an interview if it wasn't a death sentence she probably would have found her guilty. Only other capital case I can think of based off basically circumstantial evidence is Scott Peterson.
The fact she she was immediately caught lying on the first day about the nanny’s whereabouts and her employment status at Disney where she hasn’t worked at in 2 years should say guilty right there. Like why are you lying to the police right off the bat.
This still makes me sick years later. What jury in their right mind found this woman not guilty?? Where they idiots?? Makes me sick this woman got away with mustering that beautiful little girl and she clearly has no remorse what so ever. Pure evil. The jury should be ashamed
If investigation was done in a different angles and aspects, strong evidence against her would be inevitable. It angered me to my core to see a criminal and a pathological liar walk freely as an innocent citizens. Shame on the jury and yea that bustard attorney who thinks he's too smart should soon face a humiliated career destroying case. Let karma get her.
JCS has produced a lot of videos that viewers loved for the exceptional work. Why YouTube destroyed the original account seems fishy. I’m not impressed with YouTube, but thank you for curating the remaining videos.
I can’t believe Casey Anthony wasn’t convicted. There are problems within the American judicial system.
Casey's best friend: is extremely upset that Caylee is missing and through tears says she'll kill herself if anything happened to her Casey: Okay wow, this phone call was a waste of time.
Totally. During that phone call, Casey was so consumed with rage at her parents for not bailing her out that she couldn't think of anything else. She kept hinting at it by saying "Mom I can't do anything while I'm in here, etc". Then the mother says, "Casey, we couldn't bail you out even if we wanted to". I don't believe this. I think the cops took the parents aside and said, you wanna pressure Casey to tell the truth? Let her stew in jail. If you bail her out, that pressure goes away. So the parents lied and said they can't afford the bail.
@BreakfastClub yeah. I am from another country. Here where i live you there are special places by hospitals where you can give anonym babys away. It's maybe not the most morale idea but it use was good for children. But even then there were people who killed their children. The probleme in my opinion is the social system and the low finanaced medical system. Would you lime to share your ideas and mind.
@BreakfastClub This is a legit question. So I know that there is that law that says if you drop off a baby at a hospital or a church or something that, you won't be held criminally responsible because you are looking after the welfare of the child. Would this also apply to Caylee if let's say Casey didn't want to bring her to her parents house? If she decided she just couldn't handle being a mom anymore? I'm not suggesting that's what she did, I'm just wondering generally if it is an option for someone to do that.
Yeah, that got me too. Unbelievable. I mean you know something is wrong when your friend is more emotional than you are and saying things like they will die if something happened to your daughter. That is just cold.
Casey had grown bored talking about her child. Yes, Casey thought the discussion of the whereabouts of her child were getting old. Time wasted that coulda been used getting tats and clubbin at da club w00t w00t
@MercuryFever In Germany that ist legal. There are babydoors at hospitals not all but many. Although thiis is happening of course much lesser. Social things are the problems in my opinions. Like the behaviour of groups. Less pressure.
she just wanted to talk to her bf, in prison you cant just fckn talk 10 hours, so wasting time to the same questions she was asked a lot of times can be annoying
Fully, if someone said this about my child I would be hysterical, me too! I’d die if something ever happened to him. In fact I think everyone saying something happened to your child should be enough to erupt you into hysterics
@Leon Hamburg yeah maybe it looks bad compared to being a good parent, but dropping the kid off to the shelter is like being a saint when compared to murdering the child. Anyone who STILL does that needs death penalty.
Also, yes the healthcare is messed up in this snd many other countries.
She had nothing. Her friend was heading into dangerous ground for her so her knee jerk reaction was to cut off the conversation and maintain control. Mixed up with / manifesting as annoyance as others have said. Of course in hindsight that in itself is an obvious red flag.
@MercuryFever no because it's endangering the welfare of a child if you drop them off and leave. Every state has different rules but most only allow for no consequence if it's a baby 3 mos or under
@Game Time I promise you that 99% of those comments were from online trolls just trying to be edgy. People definitely found Casey attractive which is partially why the case blew up in the media, but the vast majority of people find her disgusting and guilty for sure.
@Leon Hamburg she appeared to want the baby at first, taking great care of it, i’m not sure if I can say she loved the baby because i’m not sure if she can feel love, however something happened at 3, so adoption really was not an option at that point. People really don’t adopt anything but a newborn baby.
@Aleisa Etheridge i’m sure a few of the jury members thought she was hot so they slid in biased “reasonable doubt,” maybe intentionally or maybe not, probably somewhere in the middle. I’m astounded she didn’t get convicted, I think they should’ve tried to charge her with second degree murder as they couldn’t prove it was premeditated, I think that was the fatal mistake that allowed her to walk free along with an extreme stroke of luck with a jury that would let this happen.
@RazzBerry SAME. I couldn't believe it. Everyone new what She did and new she should have been punished. Im not saying she killed her on purpose. But she sure wasn't to broken up about What happen , out having a grand old time dancing and smiling. I know damm well She caused that sweet baby's death no matter how it happen. There's a picture of her smiling during the trail that literally lives so evil. I have 3 kuds of my own and I get upset when they skin their knee. She was a liar and a awful Mother and I know that doesn't make her a murderer , but She was. She's living with one of the investigators from Her trail from Her side ofcourse. She applied for some kind of business license , private investigation. That's something isn't it.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
@RYAN SHARMAN IS A DOUBLE AGENT True but they were talking about her childhood and how the parents are whipped so the parents maybe felt they had to lie to maintain a relationship with their daughter.
@CarloisBuriedAlive There will always be people of both sexes that find people that commit horrific crimes attractive. People that correspond with them in prison, marry them in prison, etc.
@BreakfastClub True, but she didn't care, she still thought of her daughter as an inconvenience anyway. Even with the other options, in her mind, she chose an option that she thought was a way better alternative which was getting rid of her child.
@Erin M she doesn't realize she's a monster - she thinks she's normal. And ultimately, no matter how hard one may try, it's impossible to hide one's true colours completely or indefinitely - in some way or another, they will show themselves eventually.
@Leon Hamburg yeah, but where are those babies going? I just finished watching a documentary on human trafficking. To find out what actually happens to some of these kids is not for the faint of heart. To give you some idea, there are people out there who actually eclipse the evil of Casey Anthony - as unbelievably horrifying as that may sound.
@Erin M turn to Christ and repent before it’s too late because He loves us so much He died for us and God His Father raised Him from the dead and loves us 🥰
Her own brother and her best friend and her mother all knew she was lying to them. Her brother said the truth will come out. When her own family thinks she's guilty, how on earth can a jury not find her guilty
@RazzBerry Does not matter. I live a few blocks away from Casey anotheys home. I can't afford to have a child, we are same age- single unemployed women, her and I. My parents don't support me either. Heres what I would have done (if no abortion or birth control access, very likely in conservative religious florida, and barring sex abstinence which is my plan A for no baby). I would have called CPS and handed off that baby to the state. Give them all the evidence why adoption/foster home is NEEDED here. Signed off parental right or whatever else there is to sign. I would have literally said I can't afford to feed this mouth, or cloth or shelter, point by point. Im sorry CPS is a joke here and it needs to not be. CPS is the literal difference between life and death for so many children and Id rather be in the 'system' forever than exist as a child with abusive parents, bc in the former there is hope, latter you have no chance.
@RYAN SHARMAN IS A DOUBLE AGENT one could only hope the parents would do that. But they seem like enablers, who were willing to go as far as to say they abused her, and it's not her fault because they were such bad parents.
@RYAN SHARMAN IS A DOUBLE AGENT when bail was lowered she was bailed out by her parents asap. They genuinely tried everything to protect their little spawn of satan.
That phone call was annoying af - if you put it from Casey's perspective. And I though same they are annoying af. She wanted her bf number, not to listen about children she doesnt care about at all. 🤷♂️
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
How many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@BreakfastClub Right??? If she didn't want to have the responsibility of having a kid and just wanted to enjoy her youth and go clubbing, why did she have the kid in the first place? And even though it's all said and done now, even if she still had the kid, why didn't she just put her up for adoption or something instead of literally murdering her? She didn't even clear her search history for god's sake, how daft can you be????
the grandparents need to be looked at. a month and they hadnt seen their granddaughter?! what? 2 weeks tops and they should have reported something. or am i missing something?
@Game Time …she’s hot. But she’s a monster. I think many of these crime stories reach a national level simply because the monster is good looking. Jodi Arias, that Dipollito girl, Chris Watts, Scott Peterson, etc. The human species is predictable and it’s pretty disturbing.
@Danny ! exactly so many parents blaming and punishing harming children for having them. It was their choice. She could have given her daughter to her grandparents
@BreakfastClub literally she did not have to kill that little girl, her grandparents would have took her in and with open arms. that was so wrong and just messed up in all types of ways, I don't even consider that her daughter.
Casey is innocent. There's no physical evidence that she did something with Kaylee, she's just a congenital liar. Leave this poor woman alone. - she lost her child. If she was guilty she could have just taken the fifth.
Yeah ...honestly....out of all the shocking evidence and such that was one that really stood out. She was making these phone calls before fully wising up and showing more of her actual callous disregard.
i was around caylee’s age when this case became public. i remember my mom telling me how her heart would drop every time she read something new about the case when the media hit it, and how she remembers everything about her being the most hated woman in america, especially since casey is from our home town.
I remember when I was on vacation and I was about 10 years old hearing about this case on the news and how she was found not guilty despite all the evidence they had and how everyone was disgusted with the verdict.
This video was really informative and provided me with a new perspective of just how negligent and apathetic Casey was towards her poor daughter that I didn’t really get from the news at the time. It’s sad to think Caylee would’ve been around 16-17 right now😔
I’m 24 and I’m so grateful to have parents who care about me, I just wish caylee could’ve had the same thing.
29:43 “Callie HAS been so lucky to have both of you”
Interesting she uses past tense, suggesting this won’t continue. I believe her parents picked up on this as her mother brings her hands to her mouth in horror. Then the murderer tries to save herself for 10-15 seconds using current tense “still has both of you”, and repeats this once or twice.
Surprised JCS didn’t bring this up… or perhaps my observation is not accurate.
This woman is the worst. I hope someone gives her the karma she deserves.
Just imagine what that poor innocent little girl felt in the last moments and watch the end of the trial, hopefully this was for the better and Karma has a far worse plan for her to endure than jail, and hopefully she gets more than what she deserves and feels the same pain her daughter felt in the last moments, I am disgusted by that so obviously fabricated story.
I got annoyed too, The crazy didn't even wanted to talk to her ( this best friend) and she was like "I feel sad, bla bla" Nobody asked to talk to you, I am in jail, the child is missing , grandfathers are sad and desesperate, who are you? how you feel? Nobody cares, you just force yourself into the conversation and situation, begone. Maybe I'm having a bad day, but I actually laugh when she said 'OMG, calling you guys? Huge waste'
@Tatiana López I know! Remember the wedding that they went to when Casey was eight months pregnant, it was a family wedding, Cindy’s brother or something. Casey was very obviously pregnant yet the entire subject was ignored by her parents! Her mother was a piece of work too, lying under oath about the smell in the trunk being pizza.
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Rea Z2021-06-04 20:09:59 (edited 2021-06-04 20:10:14 )
@2flow true but she at that was outed to be a liar and didnt say one thing in the interrogation that would help her daughter so of course she would lose it at her
@Laquan probably because a beautiful, innocent child was killed by her own mother, who got away with it. That feeling comes from being an empathetic person. She lied continuously and showed not an ounce of concern about where her daughter was. In fact, she led police on numerous wild goose chases. And got away with it. That's infuriating.
@Omar Mohamed She appeared annoyed at her not being able to get that number. Jail calls are limited. You can't talk on it forever. And the guy made it look like she was going round and round with him when all she was requesting with the number. In such a situation, especially one this serious, I'd probably be annoyed too. He just keep going on and on.
@Talon Todd she was completely indifferent and irritated whenever they brought up her murdered daughter, idk how u listen to that interaction and justify her behavior
@Omar Mohamed @Omar Mohamed @Omar Mohamed Easily. From a place of logic. You're getting all emotional and butthurt about it. She was guilty imo, don't get me wrong. Emotions aside. She needed info, used a limited call FROM JAIL to acquire it. Then she gets told: "I dOnT kNoW wHaT rEaL gOOd It's GOnnA dO U aT tHiS pOniT."-as if he actually needs to know-and the nonsense from him that followed it. Given the circumstances, that would be a bit frustrating, no? If you're going to sit there and say otherwise, there's nothing else I could say.
@Talon Todd I understand ur points, and if she was innocent it would be completely understandable that she's being accused of something so heinous and instead of helping her her family is accusing her and being useless, thats frustrating ya. But when we have full context, we understand she only ever showed sympathy and emotion for herself, and she is also clearly guilty of the crime. So ya, her indifference to her daughters death and frustration showed how cold blooded she really is. I don't get what u disagree with about that
the mere fact that her friend is 1.actually crying and worried about the kid 2.overall EMOTING more than the actual mother of the child is pretty disturbing
@2flow ok but anyone with a brain can see there's no innocence in someone like Casey, so get outta here with that, go preach that where it's relevant. she literally lied from the start bro, she's sick
@Denise Pleines You can't say that. The video is clearly taking sides and not even trying to be objective. Perhaps she cried every day. We would never know. I'd be interested in an objective video or better text about this case.
@Talon Todd I wouldnt be remotely annoyed if I had a daughter who was missing and my best friend was scared/upset. In fact, I would be leaning on my best friend for strength and reassuring us both. But of course, I wouldnt kill anyone, ESPECIALLY an amazing 2 year old who had a literal lifetime ahead of her. Casey was annoyed because to her, crying over Caylee was pointless and annoying because she never gaf abut Caylee.
@Laquan she’s a 3 year old baby!! That’s why its infuriating! We should all care about anyone that’s senselessly killed!
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Talon Todd2021-12-24 00:59:09 (edited 2021-12-24 01:09:50 )
@Victoria Ferguson Good for you. Mother of the year. Listen, I hear you. At the end of the day, everyone is different. There was some lady in Oklahoma that stabbed her kid a shit ton of times. So much that some of the wounds were starting to merge. For every mother like you, there are going to be a few of those of Anthonys ilk
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Talon Todd2021-12-24 01:02:41 (edited 2021-12-24 01:10:37 )
@Omar Mohamed When did I disagree about her being cold-blooded? Don't fucking put words in my mouth to fit your point. You don't get to play around on the damn phone all day, when you're IN JAIL. Cold-blooded or not THESE ARE LIMITED CALLS! What part of that are you struggling to understand?! Forget it. YouTube clearly isn't a forum for conversations like this.
@2flow she was probing for information because they found out Casey had lied about everything to the police, and was locked up because of doing so...innocent people don't lie in a situation like that, but her friend was still polite and caring in her questioning, clearly hoping something else had happened besides what was starting to become clear had actually happened.
@nep nep but in a narcissist's mind, they are Always, always 100% innocent, blame free and deserve every good thing and all the praise in the world. Think Trump.
This is the most manipulative person I have ever seen. Conning your parents into throwing you a grad party when you didn’t even graduate is next level!
the fact that casey didn’t get charged for ANYTHING after LYING TO THE FACE OF THE POLICE and then they think she isn’t lying about being sexually abused or that Caylee died in her family pool it’s disgusting. I have no idea how this jury didn’t see her constant lies UNDER OATH wouldn’t be condemning enough evidence to throw her in jail nothing she says is true and she just gets away with it
Let's see: - Didn't report her child home for over a month - Lied to detectives entitling and even made up people to make a story - Showed no signs of sadness her daughter was dead, murdered or not - Wrote in her diary about how happy she is and how the end justifies the means - Googled how to suffocate someone - Car smelled like a dead body
And still was found not guilty? Bullshit. Honestly should've been a mistrial cause the judge even later admitted that bringing up the rape accusations when they had no proof tainted the jury.
@mfbloc besides what the opening statement says I still think she is guilty due to her body Lang and the way she reacts to her daughter missing an then to find out she is dead an have zero reaction… that has guilty written all over it… when I come home an I see my garbage can flipped over I look at my dog an he gives me that same look that Casey gives these detectives the looks of guilt
@Sample Text yeah, it’s so sick how women can get away with so much shit.. my mom is the same way, she’s ruined my life completely but everytime i talk to someone about not having contact with her they get mad at me because ”she’s such a good/nice/wonderful person!!”. Every time I reported her to cps or the cops she’d cry a little and talk about what a good mom she is, and everyone bought it.. I don’t understand why the world is so fucked up, it sucks.
@Zarahya relax bro, just understand what power woken have and use it if you can. always be careful of them, good luck I hope you can get away from u mom or do something about it
@Zarahya u cant use two examples to hate on women? first of all its the justice system being predjudiced, which are mostly men 🤡 also u cant blame women for this because ? they wont object to beinf treated better? its not our fault so no need to continue ur hatw for women
@NinaGangster wtf? I don’t hate women at all. Just because I think it’s sick that women can get away with so much shit because they are women, doesn’t mean I hate my own gender. Because newsflash, I’m a woman myself.
@Sample Text I’m not a “bro”, I’m a woman. I’m also very relaxed, i just think it’s unfair how women get treated differently, and have a lot of experience from it. I apologise for sharing my experiences, since I obviously made you uncomfortable or something. That was not my intention.
@Zarahya ah I see, it is up to you now. you have the knowledge. you can choose to abused the power of being a girl. it is important to understand what power you have and how you can abuse it. (never wrong to have a little fun with it) good luck bro, overpowered gender
@Chad Jones you know it! Reminds me of Tanya McDowell who got 12 years for sending her 6 year old son to a different school district from their address.. but this broad Anthony only got 4 years
Karma’s a thing and she has it coming, it’s only a matter of time before she commits another awful crime thinking she can get away with it again. I can’t believe people like these get to have children.
@Minoth Kariyawasam But it's clear that someone dies / drowns when (s)he has duck tape around his/her nose/mouth and cannot breath anymore but struggle in the water on how to survive...?
Caylee was still HER daughter so it's Cassie's choice to do with her what she wants. Until the child is old enough to support itself it's the choice of the mother to do whatever she wants, the same as abortion. So many damn sexists here. 🙄🙄
@Flip Flip Flipadelphia Wtf... It's not Caylee's fault for being born and it certainly doesn't mean she should be killed for it. Caylee was an actual being who could feel pain and think for herself... She wasn't a fetus yet to be born. People actual think that just because you are a parent means that you have the right to kill your own child... This isn't sexism... The woman murdered her own daughter... Someone she was supposed to love and care for.
@Qiralyn Cassette a fetus cannot support itself just like a toddler. A fetus does also not contribute to society unlike an adult which does both. The adult cares for it's child just like a car or house which it can sell or junk at anytime. Maybe you should grow up and stop being bigoted 🤔🧐
@Qiralyn Cassette you can't discuss things with people who think like that (@flip). If you go by their mindset they're lucky their mom or dad didn't discard them into the trash.
@Qiralyn Cassette don't bother, this person is clearly trying to equate this situation with abortion, not in the sense that's it's ok to murder your child, but in the sense that abortion is the same as murdering your child like this woman did. their intentions are the opposite of what they pretend they are
@Flip Flip Flipadelphia 1. ratio 2. are you really tryna compare an unborn fetus to a live child? ya, a live child can’t really give to society, but it can in about 6 years. and if we’re using your logic, since the kid can’t contribute now might as well kill it before it reaches max potential of being a human and contributing to society. it’s two very different things man
Leider sind die Bewohner der USA in schnitt verdammt dumm. Deshalb bin ich über das Ergebnis nicht besonders verwundert. Der Anwalt wiedert mich an. Falls es einen Gott gibt, hoffe ich, dass er seine strafe erhält. Falls es keinen Gott gibt, falls es nur ein sadistisches, übernatürliches Monster gibt, hoffe ich, dass der Anwalt am meißten leidet.
@Zarahya you and @Sample Text should really take a moment and think about what you're saying before you make generalizations about an entire gender. I am truely sorry for your abusive experience with your mother, but I hope you can realize that some people are abusive and others are not regardless of gender or anything else beyond their control. I hope you are just young and grow up to realize this mindset is wrong and damaging to both yourself and those around you.
So, it was the prosecution’s fault Casey wasn’t convicted. They allowed their hubris to dictate what they thought to be their “slam dunk” case. They went for 1st degree murder as opposed to 2nd degree/manslaughter. Then during the trial, they could not produce enough evidence to convince the jury that it was premeditated and intentional. Casey Anthony is 100% responsible for her daughter’s death but, because of the overzealous prosecution, they shot themselves in the foot by charging murder in the 1st. I’m not defending that POS so-called “mother,” I’m just trying to explain how and why she was set free.
This is honestly a case of the prosecution reaching too far and is an prime example of when a guilty person gets away with a crime because the evidence is too circumstantial. Essentially either one of two things happen, either casey did murder Caylee and tried to hide it, or Caylee died some other way and casey tried to conceal her death. The issue is that if there is even the tiniest amount of death that later was true, the jury is obligated to find her not guilty. The prosecution was over confident with this case and casey got away shot free, the should have also tried her on lower charges of conceal thing death Caylee, and tampering with an investigation. While they wouldn't have gotten the same level of punishment as murder, she would have easily been found guilty and at least faced prison time for her actions. Regardless of whether or not she was the murderer.
@BusLady Many people incorrectly believe it was an attempt to garner sympathy and victimization. However, that is only partially true. Its primary purpose was meant to serve as an explanation as to how and why Casey had continued to directly lie to law enforcement. By saying she was conditioned at a very young to hide trauma, it was to excuse her deceptive behavior while she was being interrogated.
Agree. The fact that there's an evidence that the back of her car that smells like a dead body was very obvious and also lying to detectives on her workplace....... come on. And now not proven guilty, wat a bullsh**
@Ted Pel It was never proven. She also claimed that her father helped cover up the death and dumped the child's body. They no longer have a good relationship and he believes her to be guilty. Her mother still believes she is innocent. Did he go on trial for anything?
@Eric Chadwick i’m fully aware that people can be abusive no matter what their gender is. I’ve experienced it multiple times, so thanks but i already know that. I’m 23 years old so don’t speak to me like I’m a child, it’s very condescending. My statement is nothing more than a fact, women can easier manipulate both the police and other agencies, especially when children are involved. It’s like no one wants to believe that mothers can be evil, so they usually get the benefit of the doubt, even when all the evidence are pointing towards them. Do you seriously not think that’s wrong? Because I sure as hell do. I get that it might not be fun to think about, but don’t treat me like I’m the next Alek or something. I’m a woman who’s just frustrated with the world’s views on abusers, nothing more. I’m not saying that ALL women are abusers and manipulators, that would be a harmful generalisation. I’m just stating the obvious, because we all know that Cris Watt would never have gotten the same treatment as Casey did, even though their cases are pretty similar in many ways.
@Zarahya I'm not saying, there can't be biases - there certainly are. And in other situations the man may have the bias in their favour. Your comment just came off to me in a way that implied "all women" so thanks for clarifying. Was not for a second thinking you were "the next Alek". Sorry to have offended you/being condescending.
@Eric Chadwick if you had read my other comments before hand I think you would have understood where I was coming from. At least now we understand each other! I hope you have a wonderful weekend mate :)
Have to have proof behind reasonable doubt, it's a two edged sword. Sometimes it puts innocent people behind bars, sometimes it let's guilty people walk free, the alternative is chaos
Just replying to the original commenter: and now she plans on having another child who could very well end up dead too once Casey decides she's bored of being a parent again, all because she wasn't convicted the first time despite what most people would consider to be overwhelming evidence
It's been a year since the first time I watch and know about this case and to this day I still hate how it ended. I really hope she leads a miserable life now.
The defense never "wins" a case, it's the prosecutors' to lose, and lose they did. Who called the most vulnerable witnesses (the grandparents) over and over and over again? Who failed even after opening to understand that this was a reasonable doubt hole that should have been addressed before trial? Who made it more about character than evidence? So yes, the State of Florida let a guilty woman walk because of their negligence.
The defense also claimed that George was the one who went and hid her body, because that's what a former police officer would do, make an accident look like a murder, definitely, for sure.
@Rrrobinnn I mean his lack of reaction alone shows it’s probably true. Surely he’d be seething with anger and disgust after being falsely accused of abusing his own daughter? The only other thing I can think would be if the family along with Casey proposed that as a lie but given her mother’s initial reaction I would be very surprised.
@RickGastly People like you need to stop. Not everyone is acting 101 according to a textbook, even if most other people do. I know for a fact that I don't easily show emotions and reactions on the outside to the same level as most other people do, but I am reacting on the inside - but no one can see that.
@Mycenaea are you slow? You’re sat in court room and the bombshell that you’ve apparently abused your daughter is just dropped completely unexpectedly and you wouldn’t so much as react let alone say you didn’t??
@RickGastly Saying anything would be Contempt of Court which you could get fined/jailed for. Also he can’t prove that he DIDNT sexually abuse her either way
@RickGastly nah dude the dad probably knew at that point that his daughter killed her and he was merely contemplating everything. That’s how I would be. I sorta sympathized with his (lack of) reaction cuz I’ve been there. To me it seemed like he was contemplating all of it internally, realizing everything he thought of his daughter was wrong. Already starting to question if she was really a sociopathic murderer and then hearing that she would go the extra mile to accuse him of raping her as a kid, it would just confirm it for me. imagine wrapping your head around that in the moment. I would just be so struck at that point I wouldn’t even entertain an outward reaction. Maybe he also trusted the jury would see through the lies
@LIFO the party why should they vote differently in the case of them believing she was raped as a kid? she still killed her daughter (with multiple pieces of overwhelming evidence) that wasn’t anyones responsibility but hers and she deserves to face the consequences like anyone else
@Mycenaea It's defamation of character. If you stood up and stated you didn't do this, i'm not sure if it's appropriate, but if you didn't, it's as if you were indirectly stating you were guilty of the crime you were accused of. This is slander, it's a pretty serious offense and could permanently hurt someone's social status, thus, if the father didn't do what he was accused of, he would stand up to maintain his status quo.
And besides, after this analysis of her behavior and the fact she's known by the PD to be a liar, there's no reason to believe her, but then again, you don't know if she's telling the truth or not. So, you can't take her word for anything she says unless she provides proof
This is also just speculation but according to the footage of her talking with her parents, the mere fact that she thanked her father for being a good grandparent is contradictory to her public statement about her being sexually abused by her father. It's not plausible that she went the extra mile of purposely lying on camera when she talked to her parents and especially thanked her father and whatnot. She looks pretty stupid so I kinda doubt she would even think that far, maybe she didn't plan on revealing the alleged rape accusations before.
@Mads I sure do hope.. But if she can do Mary joe, 31 days after her child's death, and still be chill, laughing about it, (and mind you she's still in great shape), I don't think she has any regret... And I think it has rather granted her a pseudo celebrity like status
@RickGastly it's simple if you have lived with a liar for a long time you know to not give their lies any attention, because it becomes a sit where it brings up doubt that you only contest that lie and no other. In a battle of lies pretending a liar said nothing is always better than trying to pick and choose the battle, because they will always win.
nope it makes alot of sense for that to be the thing which affected casey which is why im surprised they didnt just turn the case on him at that point or atleast start one after this and put her dad in prison
@a single french fry I'm pretty sure the defense used the r*pe story to explain why she lies so much since she kept lying to investigators throughout the case. Unfortunately, it kind of worked since she got off free...
A lot of shitty people have history of getting abused in any way. its just speculation but I think this is why casey became like this... (If that was true)
I read so many comments here and nobody said it. How could this many people not get it. Let’s think about this. Casey Anthony was raised by who? Her parents. Now they didn’t mean to raise a murderer but whatever lying and deception was going on in that household obviously stuck with her but her dad was a cop so he knew what to do and what not to do. So he knew he lost his granddaughter and he didn’t want to also lose his daughter so he allowed for all of this once it was past the point of no return.
@RickGastly That's a childish or TV Drama way to respond. He stands up "That's not true!" If he did that, it would make him look more guilty. The immature way to respond to someone's accusations is not to immediately state it isn't true. Because you know it isn't true, you don't need everyone to know that because you know it.
@SmackedPickle what does being a former police officer have to do with anything? theyre definitly capable of murder and its not like they hold the law in special regard lol.
@yaoi boi the defense was that Caylee died by accident, and George handled it in a way that made it look like a murder. Not that he murdered her himself. I don't care who you are, if someone dies by accident you're not going to make it look like a murder, maybe the other way around. I just think you wanted a chance to take a misguided dig at police morality.
Ps, I agree, most cops kinda or definitely succ, but you're missing my point
@Scee Sure, but to be fair, there's a lot of things that fall into the category of "not like it's something that couldn't happen". Some of those things are legit plausible even. However what is the likelihood of them? The allegations were there to just muddle the perception of her, to cast doubt. Like it almost seems like the defense created a big moral grey area because they knew people are terrible at navigating through moral uncertainty.
@Carter Yasutake the likelihood seems about 50/50 to me. Some of the people in the comments are saying that just based of the tiny bit we saw of him and how nice he looked it’s clear he didn’t do it. Or that one person who I think said something about serving him once. If he did do it, it doesn’t change the fact that she most likely killed her kid. But I don’t see why her killing her kid would suddenly make it so that her being touched by her dad impossible, which is what I was getting at with my original comment. You don’t have to agree, I’m not changing my mind about it being possible and I’m sure you’re not changing yours about it most likely not happening, good talk tho.
@Mycenaea lol even when people(family) accuse you of molestation/rape? Dayum. That's not good. Some lies warrant an appropriate reaction, most don't....but then again, if he WOULD HAVE reacted, it may have been the difference between his daughter being put to death, and walking free. Hard spot lol
@RickGastly this isn’t talked about enough which sucks, but her parents were told that if they were to sit in court they could not show any emotion. Maintaining a calm and objective environment is important in the court. He was trapped. He wanted to be present for Caylee but he wasn’t allowed to react.
@Ninaran I don't know if it happens a LOT but that type of defence is nothing new. I imagine her lawyer constructed it: Dad taking part in the coverup - sexually abuse as a child. To me that just sounded like the most recent in a very long list of lies but it was convincing to enough people that she now walks free. She's rightfully despised though (for the most part).
@Bryan Whitebut even in her most recent interviews she’s changed her story again. Saying what “ might have happened” to Caylee. Not even sticking to the defenses version of what happened. The jury said there wasn’t enough proof to find her guilty so using the same standard I think it’s unfair to say George is guilty of anything. Especially when the source is Casey Anthony or her lawyers.
@RickGastly this account is from like 10 years ago, i don't even like FT anymore, and i don't see how that's relevant But if that's all you have to say about my comment, i can see how pointless it'd be to have a conversation with you, so i won't respond anymore
@Kanny_uwu have you noticed how I haven’t been active in this absolute mess of a thread? I stopped by to clown on you cause of the absolute state of your comment. So long Erza
@Mcnoodles I was being sarcastic. These people are blaming her parents, I'm saying that she wasn't abused as a kid, would the other commenter think if she was abused she'd turn out better? Bad way to comment i guess lol
@RickGastly The man has just seen his daughter lie about his grand daughters for some time at that point. Nothing surprises him anymore. No proof he did anything, a lot of proof of her lying shamelessly, and she clearly praises him and her mom as great grandparents. Stop being so edgy mate.
She told her parents on the visit they were the most amazing parents ever.... why would she say that if he abused her? Doesnt add up. Id put money on it just being ANOTHER one of her endless pathological stories.
@RickGastly You know what fight flight or freeze is? Something like this can trigger you to freeze up and seemingly have “no reaction.” Also, after having to listen to lie after lie from your daughter about your granddaughter’s murder then hear she accuses you of rape? That could make a person just immediately feel dead inside. It feels like their face and body go numb. And not everyone shows their reactions outwards. He’s a cop who has probably seen and heard many terrible things. They learn to keep their outward reaction contained. And one of the most important things almost everyone doesn’t take into consideration: when you are in court they don’t want you to show any emotion. You are advised and trained not to do so. There are all sorts of reactions to things and different explanations as to why people react the way they do. It’s not all black and white.
Why is everyone in the comments ignoring what was basically proof that he didn't do what he was accused of? She literally called him a great father and grandfather, and told him not to put anything on himself, which is a weird thing to tell someone you were going to accuse of SA.
@RickGastly that was my exact thought as well. He showed zero emotion when that information was dropped in court. If he were innocent his eyes would’ve went wide and he would’ve been like “wtf???”
Bring back an extra council/jury system where those who are facing the death penalty, but get life no parole, have the option to have a "Trial by Combat" no champions, no weapons. Against another DRI/Lifer who is carefully selected to face up. Two Enter, One leaves.
I was 7 when this happened and I remember watching the build up and the trial as well. I was convinced that the grandpa did it. I can’t remember exactly why, but in retrospect it must’ve been something like this that she posed him into. What a weird feeling. rip Caylee
@RickGastly You can't do trial by ambush, meaning that the defense would've had to share that testimony weeks or even months prior to that moment in the courtroom. Would be hilarious if you could just roll up in court and make up/produce evidence and testimony on the spot and the other party (defense or prosecution) would have to react to it within minutes without having the ability to dispute it by interviewing witnesses and searching for evidence etc.
@RickGastly you’re slow if you think the defense didn’t discuss this with the parents to tell them they would be accused as child molestors to help her daughter out, and given the fact they lied for her and believed her for her whole life, I’m not surprised they aren’t showing any emotion because they already knew this was going to be brought up
@Lauren Ash He showed no emotion because the parents were instructed to not show any emotion during the trial or else they wouldn't have been allowed to be there. I don’t understand the reasoning though, seems unfair
@Mycenaea people like him need to stop? If you wouldn’t have even raised an eyebrow or bugged ur eyes out a little or shook ur head or anything that’s weird yes everyone reacts differently but we all pretty much have a similar baseline reactions to thing and if I was accused of assault especially sexual assault by my child I’d be sick to my damn stomach especially to say that on national television
@RickGastly his reaction should have been more in line to that of his daughter’s reaction to Caylee having “drowned in the pool”—not calling for help, not telling anyone, and going out every night immediately afterwards…
i cry everytime i hear the grandparents talk about casey’s daughter. it’s heartbreaking how much they love the little girl and i just can’t even fathom how someone could do this.
It truly baffles me how the jury was so gullible to buy the bullshit that the defence fed them. If I knew how, I would petition for the case to be reopened. Justice must be served
i'm devastated that she didn't spend the rest of her life in prison. i was so sure she wouldn't walk free after her countless lies, the duct tape, her search history, and her heartless behavior.
The lawyer did his JOB, you goof. But, please. Enlighten us all about how this "afterlife" works. You should have stopped writing after the first sentence.
@studio732jrl2, you should have stopped writing after the first sentence. :)) But, please, go enlighten yourself, it's not my job to educate you. The lawyer slept with her.
Yes, it is. And even though her life may never be what it could have been had she not murdered her child, it doesn't matter much because it's still more than Caylee got and more than Casey deserves.
Kelly J a parents love is unconditional, and I believe if she had told her dad she did it he would have come forward and told the truth, same with the mum, they would’ve hated it but I know they both stopped talking to her when she was found not guilty. They are desperate to believe she isn’t lying AGAIN, they know she’s a liar as she’s done it endlessly. It must’ve been fucking hard. They aren’t Casey they actually love their daughter.
It is disgustingly unfortunate. What is really unfortunate is how so many of our leaders, past and present, as well as our business leaders, and others in positions of power lie continuously.It seems to me that is how they get to be where they are.
if you think having a conscience is something valuable for success then you're sorely mistaken and naive. Sure you wont make many friends, but it still works and it's definitely an advantageous trait to be egotistical.
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@LD JT what do you expect her parents to do? Disown their own child or not stand by their child’s side? Even parents of serial killers say “At the end of the day that’s still my child I have no choice but to love him/her”... they probably figured they already lost their granddaughter and losing their daughter would be even harder on them... regardless parents usually are always going to stand by their children no matter what.
@Christina Yates I said they're infuriating. Infuriating because of what looked like enabling on their part throughout her life. I didn't say they should disown her.
@LD JT There absolutely is, but God has a way of punishing people in this life for their iniquity in a way that I think shows other people what that way of living leads to, it’s not pretty, and it’s not fun. I think the last person I’d like to be in this life is Casey Anthony, and I hope she repents, maybe she is incapable of it, but I know God is just, and that’s good enough for me. ...
@madclone84 yeah I was going to say, they definitely weren’t made of money. They are at best middle class. People act like rich people don’t have morals......karma always comes around.
@Rose Keyes Why do you say such hurtful things about a poor, innocent woman? How would you like if I or someone else told you the same thing? Man, I hope you're falsely accused someday about something you didn't do and won't have the same luck as she did.
It's because the jury was a bunch of idiots who bought the cheap theatrics of her lawyer, who obviously was romantically involved with her. A really crazy story. Makes you think karma isn't real.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! never
Jessica Wilson It's obvious what she has 😒 Stop thinking Psychologist are God's who know everything when many of them are wrong often. It's not hard to go to school for psychology and still have no business being in the field.
@Brian J This is a very naive comment. She doesn't think the way you and I think. She got away with it and she's happy. Zero remorse, zero hauntings. The monster won.
Yes, some might hope at the beginning of this documentary, that her „career“ will end here. She took it to far. But no, it is unbelievable, but she still got away with it.
I've already made a couple of comments on this video. Last time I watched this was about a year ago. I love JCS and I'm able to watch each&every video they make multiple times, but I mostly avoid this one because this case is absolutely blood-boiling. How did she get off the hook when she took the cops on a wild goose chase at Universal, in the 1st place?!?! Why nobody focused on the fact that she didn't give a shit about her daughter for a month? I read some articles that explain she wasn't convicted because the state didn't have any evidence to a 'reasonable doubt', so the 'lack of evidence' was the main reason she could walk. 🤔🙄 I mean... give me a fucking break. Also, if it wasn't for the two relatively young, flirty detectives (arresting officer&leading detective), her interviews wouldn't have been like tea parties. (Is it true she hooked up with one of the cops, though?!😠) This case is just fully WRONG from A to Z, from top to bottom.
Her parents are flawed, as they enabled and excused their daughter's behaviour for so long, but from watching all the clips and interviews it is clear as day that they are incredibly loving individuals. Unfortunately their daughter grew up to take advantage of their good soft nature, instead of adopting it herself.
Glad this is back up, I was about 45 minutes into it when it was taken down. Hopefully this is a good sign that you're coming out on the other side with your channel intact.
I can't believe that verdict. I'm shocked. Duct tape over the poor things breathable openings; dumped into a swamp; caught partying shortly afterwards; the diary that used language that suggested an action had taken place to suggest a dramatic life change and even more so from it, displayed relief at the completion of an action; lied to detectives by even falsifying people's existences; the psychology of it all that clearly helps us see the disengaging behavior and language she used paired with strange emotional distancing. How did that much wool exist in the world to have been pulled over all of those lies and obvious displays of deception?
Yeah pretty messed up right? The only argument that opposes this is that someone could have typed that into her phone. Fabricating the evidence, yet that seems very very unlikely cause of the other evidence. I think that her lawyer was just very good at manipulating the jurors.
From the podcast "Best Case Worst Case" where the hosts interview an FBI agent who was part of the investigation, it seems that police didn't know how to properly interpret the program they were using and because of that the search results could not be used in court (episode 4 around 21:50)
@Marlo Marteja Can't really convict someone for coincidences can you? And as cold as it sounds, being happy if your child is gone or dead is not a crime, like with Casey's diary situation.
An internet search is not proof nor should it be. Everything would be chaos if it was. Im amazed how noob those interrogators was. They had no idea how to form a sentence and they work homicide? They made it absolutely clear to her that she was the smartest one in the room.
@Dieser Mann I am not saying it is the only thing that should put her in jail and I am not saying it proves she killed her daughter. I am saying it IS an important piece of evidence and SHOULD be heavily considered in court, especially along with all the other "coincidences" people seem to be ignoring about her.
Jose Biaz was one hell of an attorney. Seriously. I watched the entire trial. He reminded me of Jonnie Cochran, "if it doesn't fit, you must acquit". If you've ever seen Chicago (where everyone who was guilty went free and the one innocent person hung), he gave em the old "razzle dazzle". She would have fried without him.
The defense argued that she drowned in the family pool, and she looked up foolproof suffocation/suffocation meaning that they probably argued that she was looking up the symptoms of suffocation, signs of suffocation, etc.
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Eti lal2020-09-17 09:40:20 (edited 2020-09-17 09:40:32 )
Googling something does not mean the person is going to act. Thoughts and actions are different.
@Berk Also, the prosecuting attorney didn't seem to rebut/anticipate any of her attorney's statements. The drowning, the molestation, all prejudicial and should never have been allowed in court.
@Cla Lyrics True. Ridiculous. It's guilt beyond a REASONABLE doubt, not any doubt. How could the prosecution allow the defense to get away with that statement?? This video could be re-shot as the failings of the prosecution. But that would be less entertaining.
@Dieser Mann If the child died by drowning, why was she found with duct tape over her mouth? Casey admitted that everything she said regarding other parties involved was a lie. So...she wanted to cover the child's mouth with with duct tape, after looking up suffocation on Google, after the child had already drowned?
@I’m Bored Exactly! A lot of people google weird stuff and that's not bad in itself, no one argues that it should be illegal. But the fact that she googled information on suffocation the day before her child died supposedly from suffocation....? That's definitely an odd coincidence that should be discussed in court.
@GodRyder That's not how it works lol. Your computer is your property and you're solely responsible for its contents. It's like being the driver of a car and police finding illegal substances. If no one admits to the crime, the driver is typically the one charged. If not everyone.
Omg and even the fact about how she met the nanny through a friend and he doesn’t even have a kid and has never met the nanny before. Like it’s lies after lie and she ended up not guilty🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
It blew up in the national media and by the time she went to trial the narrative was already set. It happens all the time. It's happened recently with that guy that raped that girl, beat her, tried to steal her car and then was shot while attempting to get a weapon out of the car. But in the media he was a random man that the cops shot. There is no such thing as a fair trial with the national media involved.
@Mintylight a ridiculous argument seeing that you ignore every single circumstance along the way. no one says anyone who has ever searched "choking" is now a murder suspect. this is not how building a case works. the whole point is that you tie up a few loose ends that depict a clear image once put together. evidence supports evidence. now if you searched "choking" and someone you know choked to death around the same time they were in your company.... that would raise an eyebrow. tie that with inappropriate emotional response, lack of cooperation, endless lies that misdirect the investigation and other condemning evidence such as a diary entry reading "I made the right choice" and you have a winner.
@GodRyder yeah that's not "reaosnable doubt". You could argue they were abducted by aliens, too, who altered Casey's brain to turn her into the psychopath we see here and they killed Caylee. Not reasonable. You could argue that a sane person who witnessed a murder maybe just imagined they did. Not reasonable. There seem to be a lot of people in these comments who do not understand what "beyond reasonable doubt" means, and seem to conflate it with "If I can make up just as ridiculous a story as the ones Casey tried, then she can't be convicted". Not reasonable.
In one of the docu.'s they said, Zany was short for Xanax, it was never a babysitter, she gave her Xanax to put her to sleep in the car, when she went out.
The duck tape she prob put on tbier ti make it look like she was abducted so that she didn't get busted. Even if it was a drowning how are you not gonna call 911 and try ans save your child wtf.plus sbe should have been convicted fir 12 years for tampering with a deceased body.
She didn't google 'how to strangle somebody safely', she googled 'foolproof suffocation' on the day her daughter died. Her car smelled like a dead body, and she went home and wrote in her diary 'I hope the end justifies the means'.
As far as i know search history can not be used as evidance, but it can be used in court to build a case, and from what the video shows the prsecution didn't mention it in court and that leads me to think that those search entries where discovered afted the trial was over.
Ok, I'm glad you don't work in the justice system. What's wrong with you ? Do you realise what you're saying ? There is a difference between googling something and actually doing it and that's not a tiny difference. Do you imagine what the world would be if you judge people based on their internet history ? It's basically judging people for what they think. That's some dark dystopian world that I would love to see in a movie but that I wouldn't want to live in. You have absolutely no context what so ever. How do you even prove intent with an internet history ?
I sure you can think of some dark things you google, even as a joke. Would you like to face justice for that ? Do you think it's fair ?
A weird correlation isn't causation nor proof.
Please go back to what ever you're doing and let the people that does a very difficult job doing thier jobs.
in the court of law, unless you were seen typing that or in any which it could be proved that it was you who searched that particular entry, it doesnt count into evidence as it can be termed circumstantial.
Can’t send someone to jail for doing a google search. And then lying to police about it or acting suspicious. What if 7 people all planned this so she googled it. At the end they changed their minds but one of them still abducted the lil girl. Are u still going to send the mom to prison because she googled it and changed her mind later? That’s why evidence is so important for a conviction.
@Sarah Lyd if she was going to accuse him of rape all the sudden why not her daughters murder when everyone thinks it’s her? why’d she admit to having custody of caylee last aside from the “babysitter”? it was her.
There can be plenty of reasons as to why you would look up how to suffocate someone. It's circumstantial evidence at best and completely irrelevant at worst
How many times I got curious about killing methods because I was watching a TV show or playing a videogame featuring brutal murders. If I happened to be at the wrong place wrong time those internet searches could have been used against me, when it was just morbid curiosity about a given topic.
This can apply to any kind of crime - you need to prove beyond any form of reasonable doubt the how and the why. The how, which was the most important part in this occurrence was completely missing or badly presented by the prosecution in this case. No wonder Casey escaped - the defense attorney knew exactly what strings to pull because it's those same strings that were easily pulled by the opposite side so swaying their opinion was easy due to a lack of a proper foundation to make these strings immovable
Yeah.In our country, there was a case in which a man killed his wife using a snake.When investigators searched his youtube history it had videos about how to handle snakes.He was convicted of the murder later.He is now in jail. It's so sad this case had the opposite ending
@Mintylight Merely googling about strangulation is not evidence, agreed. The problem is that the one time she ever googled it was /right before/ her daughter died. That's damning evidence.
She lied about the nanny(provably) She lied about speaking to the child in time it had already been dead (provably) She lied about her place of occupation( provably) And more... the prosecution lawyers sudked I am sorry
beans there was a case similar to the internet search it was in one of rob dykes video the guy was searching something to do with what he did to a girl she lived close to him I think he was her babysitter. The search history helped convict him.
@Mintylight she googled foolproof suffocation 50:59 actually watch the video. There wasn’t any reasonable explanation for her to have searched that, like you said. That argument does not Apple to Casey in a single way.
@Annabella LeForce Hmm. Yeah I'm not defending anything in any way. Also probably just skimmed through the video while playing games same time or something (was a while back...) Just curious how American law system works, when something is considered circumstantial and not. Weirdest law thing is the "if you've been accused of something once you can't be it again" type of thing, which is just insane. Like, actually, if someone tries to do something or indeed actually does do something, they tend to be more likely to do it multiply times.
So they used "she was s-abused at 8" to get a sappy story for the jury. She didn't report her father either, while saying he was a wonderful grandfather previously. Awful monster.
She led detectives through a building she doesn’t work at for 25 minutes. Bruh, imagine the arrogance of her walking that whole time-hoping something would happen so that she could just walk away. Like what was she thinking, she’s clearly insane.
i could not believe that she was found not guilty. truly disturbing that she has managed once again to completely avoid any consequences for her cruel actions. the scariest part is that she said that she wants more kids in an interview not long ago
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@HenriqueRJchiki people with small minds will deny the existence of any injustice until it happens to them. Don’t try to convince. Not our jobs. Enjoy your peace & open-mindedness. I won’t scream out , to people who have cut their ears off. Always love to everyone. Live in YOUR truth. Truths change tho... & the very thing you deny could be ur own demise. Big ups. Peace & Love.
@natalie in your opinion . Hope all is well. Hope everything you say is “it” assuming that’s where your validation and gratification comes from. Small mindedness peaking through. Nothing will be “it”. Because we live in a world of opinions ... I don’t look for agreement , I just always mean what I say. & tell my truth.
@Na' Kyia a one hour video of a mother who killed her child and got away with it. why are you making it about your personal cause do you have no manners or feelings? im only half american but fully ashamed of whats going on with american people is there no longing for unity anymore?
@Randy Gebreith I never said anything about me. Lmfao. I called it how I seen it ... why SHE was free. Making it about me would’ve been telling a story about my PERSONAL experience with white privilege. Mr librarian is the only one who told a story ab himself here lmfaoo
@Randy Gebreith you can’t create unity in a place that wants to sweep its biggest issues under the rug. If someone was hurting you would you say “ I’m just going to side with you because UNITY” that’s literally gaslighting. Nobody has any right to deny anyone’s experience & to jump into something you don’t full understand and begin pointing fingers isn’t exactly well mannered or sensitive of you.
@Mr. Libertad if you are a person of color. love yourself more babes. You’re accidentally identifying as a white boy in YouTube comments and forgetting about it comments later .... embrace your color. You slid into an alternate reality for a sec or something ...lmfaoo. Nah I’m beasting. Have a great day , my bed time & I have ZERO interest in picking up where we leave off tomorrow. Honestly everything said I’m behind a thousand percent. Goodnight strangers that I’ll never talk to again. ALWAYS LOVE AND PEACE
@Na' Kyia "Live in YOUR truth. Truth changes tho" You really have lost the grip on reality. Those statements make no sense logically and are straight up false. It's crazy that someone can even hold that view. When people start believing that "truth changes" goes to show how far society is slipping away.
@Na' Kyia forget all these closet racists, you are absolutely right. White privilege is definitely a factor in this case. No way would a black woman be walking around free if she committed this heinous crime. The people here denying white privilege clearly haven’t suffered as a result of it. White people haven’t been historically abused, murdered and threatened for the colour of their skin so those saying “all lives matter” are absolutely missing the point.
10 out of 12 voted guilty on all charges. They caved to get out of jury duty. I'd tell them all upfront, Guess We're a hung jury and they gotta redo the trial, cuz NO WAY IN HELL IM VOTING NOT GUILTY. And that would be that. But people have families and lives they want to get back to. Horrible excuse for justice to let his irresponsible kid drugger walk
@Elvar White isn’t a color it’s a lack of one. But why is pro black/Hispanic/poc. always translated to anti white. That’s a projection of your ideology. You’re saying “ Love yourself, but not too loudly if you are a person of color”
@Elvar I think white people like all people should love themselves. I think white people struggle, I think white people experience prejudice. I think white people add so much to our existence. I love white people. I love every aspect & difference. I’ve been loved by many many white people with AMAZING empathy and understanding. When I call out injustices or inequalities... that’s just what I’m doing. Not white people as a whole & I truly would NEVER want anyone to feel bad about themselves & if that’s what that translates too. Charge it to my head not my heart. Always Love no matter what .
@Na' Kyia Not gunna argue with you, but I am willing to -discuss-. This case has little to do with white privilege, it was yet another of the millions of instances of injustice and the system failing victims while letting the most evil people get away with it. I believe there is a big problem with the entire system as a whole, not just the justice sector of it, and I grew up in an area were it was predominantly black and many had to put forth more work than anyone else to get anywhere so I can say I believe it is tougher for them than anyone else, but this case is a simple failure of the justice system entirely that sheds light on how at times justice isnt served. Like I said I am not here to argue, I stating my view just as you have every right to say yours and no one can take that right from either one of us. Stay safe, healthy and may your day be bright and pleasant.
@Na' Kyia Either that or the defense made it very difficult to prosecute by they way the fabricated events. The defense need to be charged!! How can you google search how to suffocate somebody and not be charged! America is so backwards
@Thomas Riddle well said sir 👏. People need to wake up and stop being force fed what the media wants. When will society realize that no politician is truly for any normal citizen, only for their own political gain and stability.
@Na' Kyia White privilege doesn't exist. If it did, then don't you think that all non-white people would have moved to a continent solely consisting of non-white people?
It's a lack of evidence. While I agree, unfortunately it doesn't work that way. The prosecutor didn't do his job effectively due to there simply not being any evidence. Sucks.
@HenriqueRJchiki Where was Caylee's so-called "white privilege"? She was the victim and got no justice so what you're saying makes zero sense. Tired of this BS.
@Na' Kyia Your "truth" is clearly to make any situation about race. No "small mind" here, just someone who's tired of attention seekers using this narrative for absolutely everything.
Yea she got a drink thrown on her at a bar and called police there is body cam of it... Didn't call the cops when her daughter was missing for 31 days but calls them quickly when gets in a bar altercations
@This guy is not cool yeah dude, it’s honestly a joke at this point. They cry wolf consistently and get surprised no one actually cares if there is actually a wolf. They lied and cried about nonsense for too long, and yet they want the party that they despised and demonised to come back and help them.
Negative sweety, that boat has already sailed, I wouldn’t mind a world without racism, violence. However it takes 2 to tango. Oh well. Racism isn’t going away anytime soon, it’ll probably get worse.
@I Love God Amen Shit something went wrong... i didnt get my pass. Can i get one at city hall? Hahha I tought only get a get-out-of-jail-free-card if u are Ritch+ Female + White. OR Ritch + Famous.
@Mr. Libertad lmao ironically I have also been in this exact situation 😂 not the only racism I experienced for being white though, all races have racists in them, white asian latin black, we all got racists
@Na' Kyia I’m not saying whose right or wrong here I’m just saying this girl so clearly wanted to start an argument lmao, for sure does this in any comment section she can apply it to
@Na' Kyia What you got in terms of practical solutions though? I've met a lot of loudspeakers like you who just parrot the scripture of race you've been taught yet any real conversation never goes past the same lines.
@Na' Kyia you clearly don’t want peace in your notifications or you wouldn’t have commented and gone back and forth with paragraphs to 30 people in this comment section. You’re race bating like you guys always do and you’re a contradicting joke. Get it together.
@Nyasiia lmao somewhere above, someone brought up Trump and race and shit. It seemed funny to me. We are so polarized and obsessed with that shit. The media lives in our heads rent free
@Mr. Libertad Im so so sorry you got mugged and called an ugly name, it truly doesn't compare to hundreds and thousands of other people who get jailed, judged, discriminated and even murdered by our own law enforcement solely based on the color of their skin, I feel truly for your loss
The prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
@Randy Gebreith unless you are black, it may be hard for you to consider this unless you are in grave denial. my country is not even as racist as the US but it affects me too and i understand. When you are black you are treated worse. Privilege isnt the lack of oppression, but obstacles that separate one from the other.
@Na' Kyia bruh i couldnt believe the ignorance in the responses here. It's obvious race played a role. if she was a black woman, it is unlikely this would have even gotten as much media coverage considering the time period when social media wasn't as rampant. i couldn't agree with you more. You expressed yourself well
@Na' Kyia people with small minds will say that just because you’ve experienced racism, which people from all races have, there is injustice in the entire society.
@Na' Kyia OJ wasn't white... I'm sure you cheered for that not guilty... don't get me wrong I hope something terrible happens to Casey. But your comment is ridiculous
Shame on that jury finding that liar and baby killer not guilty. I've been following this since 2009. I was always watching Nancy Grace and Jane Velez-Mitchell every evening.
She’s as guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of pooh , how the hell they failed to convict her is utterly beyond comprehension. Rest in Peace Caylee.
What kind of parents throw a graduation party for their child who didn't graduate and basically dropped out without telling anyone. That's sooo bizarre to me.
I'd guess it was more about saving face for themselves in front of their friends and avoiding embarrassment than it was about Casey
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Sean Pizzo2020-08-02 14:08:30 (edited 2020-08-02 14:08:44 )
@Hard_Boiled85 they werent rich. Dad was just a security gaurd. They were lower middle class. Their neighborhood definitely wouldnt qualify as upper middle class. I used to deliver pizzas there so i know.
@Erin Excellent point. Very possible this was the reason, as well as saving themselves the hassle of having to put up with her ranting and raving. Dealing with their daughter that way ultimately attributed to poor Caylee's demise though.
@Velcro she definitely has some sort of personality disorder...Im guessing its more narcissistic than bpd. She is an evil person, and strangely enough all the psychological tests she was given showed nothing out the norm, including the MMPI which is the gold standard.
I skipped class for a few weeks and a truancy officer came to my house, My dad straight up pushed me into a wall and said you're going to get me arrested, do you understand that? Never skipped a day after that. Miss you dad! I over here wondering how she could skip a whole semester of class before truancy officers get involved.
@A.J. Manol Fascinating. I know most tests can be defeated, but we can sit here and watch the video and plainly see something is off. I can hear it in the 911 call - plain as day.
@Velcro Absolutely. I think that this kind of enabling and avoidant behavior by her parents is ultimately a selfish act on their part. It's about protecting themselves and making things easier for them. (Which is how Casey then treated Caylee, in a way)
@jdlech I think the first set of detectives were so exasperated by her behavior that they did'nt press her as much as they could have. Just when you think you've seen it all, in walks Casey.
Feels Man it’s easy to judge from the sidelines, yet anyone can give birth to a psychopath, and even young psychopaths have a way of manipulating people around them.
White people saving face smh case reminds me of Ethan kid with "affluenza" little rich boy never learned consequences of the real world so he don't have to go to jail for killing people.
It's definitely about saving face, but the party's still bizarre. It would have made more sense to lie about her having graduated only if they were ever asked about it, pretend to have just gone out to dinner to celebrate or something, and just try not to mention it and hope people forget. Throwing a huge party as a coverup is too much.
Robert Bektas2020-08-02 18:19:17 (edited 2020-08-02 18:19:38 )
Nairung1395 obviously that doesn’t work in the long term. I used to lie to my parents consistently when I was younger and eventually they caught on punished me, taught to face my problems head on instead of being a coward
Boomers, man. They couldn't stand being told their kids aren't the best, so they invented participation trophies and did stuff like this to avoid the neighbors knowing their child is a dropout.
@Velcro NO!!! i have bpd and we have an insane amout of empathy. we are not pathological liars and 99% of us are not "dangers to society" (im not saying thats what u said, im referring to people like jeffery dahmer who supposedly had bpd)
please stop saying she has BPD because she clearly doesnt. i suffer from low functioning bpd and i KNOW she does not have it. people with BPD dont kill people. even jeffery dahmer said he wanted to keep them alive for as long as possible, not that he's a good example of a person with BPD, 99% of people with bpd are not dangerous in any way except when it comes to themselves. people with BPD are not pathological liars and definitely not narcissistic. she shows 0 signs of bpd i have no idea why anyone would even bring that up. i just need people to know we are NOT monsters and im tired of people immediately labeling bad people with bpd
@Sarah Min You tell me I'm wrong, then state that the debate is not resolved. So which is it? Am I wrong, or is it not yet resolved? Are ALL psychopaths the result of abuse or not? And not all serial killers are psychopaths. In fact, only a small percentage are. So when you say "all serial killers like ...", it makes me think you're waffling.
Of course, all serial killers that fit your exact criteria will fit your exact criteria. That proves nothing.
But I will amend my earlier post - psychopathy is not ENTIRELY caused by bad parenting.
Parents who care more about appearances than the truth 😒 Sometimes, children don't do what parents would like. They fall short or fail. It's pathetic to cover up for them, rather than being honest with family/friends about the child not meeting a benchmark. I say this as the parent of an adult child who went astray at 18. Her father & I did N O T lie about her finishing school, or anything else. Our friends were happily bragging (as they should) about all of the goals their children were meeting & we had to be honest about the fact that our daughter was struggling. Lying never occurred to us. We were embarrassed, but the truth is the truth. She's not a criminal & as long as people are alive they can change. But, lying & covering over failures and disappointments is not the way to be a good parent.
@Hard_Boiled85 They really weren't rich, middle class maybe. He was a security guy ex cop and the mother worked in an insurance office I think. I think their denial and worry about what other people think allowed Casey to get away with everything.
That's the only thing that...kind of makes me believe the molestation claims are true. Her family's behavior is so bizarre. And WHO is Caylee's father? Why was he never brought up? The fact that Casey lied on a regular basis seemingly for no reason...and they just acted like it was normal....so fucking abnormal.
ritchie9709 what if the little girl was also being abused by him? & she thought she was protecting her by killing her. If the dad actually had sexually abused his own daughter, it’s not so far fetched to believe he would do the same to the granddaughter. God only knows what convoluted mess led to this awful situation. Someone is protecting someone, maybe just Casey protecting Casey. It’s so hard to make sense of, without seeing in the dark.
I agree. It's really weird. I get the sense that they were too soft on her; in a bad way. She seemed to give all the orders. Then again, she's a psychopath and they probably couldn't have changed her. But that was weird. My folks found out I was ducking class and were like: "WHAT???!!!" Didn't get a party.
@LadyLiberty WDC I never said nor meant to imply that there are. Could you show me what gave you that impression in my statement so that I may clarify if I find it necessary to do so. Thanks
People who care more about what other people think of them than about their own daughter‘s future. That was probably one of the last opportunities for them to stir the wheel and they decided to do the polar opposite. Then Caylee was born and they somehow saw a second chance. For both their daughter and their grandchild. But Casey never developed true motherly instincts, a true connection with her daughter... just like they Never managed to have a true connection with her.
Hard_Boiled85 Oh they are so not rich at all, George and his wife had almost divorced shortly before the murder of Caylee. He for many, many years had a gambling problem. Parents that would throw a graduation party for their daughter that did not graduate clearly seemed to be covering for their daughters behaviors n actions. I think they always did things to cover to make her appear more normal, from what I understand from someone whom knew the family for over 20 yrs Casey was always odd, clearly we all know that is true.
It was a pattern that caused the personality disorder in their daughter.
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Milan Nesic2020-08-08 19:20:40 (edited 2020-08-08 19:22:14 )
I assume you never met a psychopath, or recognize one. They are intelligent and excellent actors, and if you are not smart enough to recognize their high IQ and manipulation, they will be able to make you do many things, and believe them
@Milan Nesic Not all of them are high IQ. I know one that is about 70. She tries to baffle with BS but is not intelligent enough to cover her tracks but the lying really looks the same, just not as polished.
@SouthernTruth Chick I have BPD and I was never abused. Picked on in elementary school, but not abused. Abuse isn't a necessary predictor for BPD as much as trauma is.
@SouthernTruth Chick I'll be praying for your continued healing. It's nice to be able to relate to others like me, even if just on YouTube lol. My trauma was different (not abuse), but all the other precursors were there and I was diagnosed after meeting 7 out of 9 traits. I certainly do not doubt your diagnosis or experiences, as that's between you and your psychiatrist. I wish you all good things in life, including healing, love and understanding. 🙏🙏💗
im going to be honest i kind of understand this decision if it was isolated. if u have a family that is extremely verbally abusive and toxic, sometimes not letting them know something like this happened is way more beneficial to u and your husband/wife and children. ive grown up in a situation like this and there has been so many times where we havnt told our extended family whats happened in our personal lives. weve hid car crashes, injuries, breakups, a lot of things from them bc of how verbally abusive they are. NOW WITH THAT SAID i do not know what their family was like!! so this ABSOLUTELY couldve been just straight manipulation too. im just saying tho that there is a possible reason for some things we just dont know the full story on even tho it looks really weird. just some thoughts¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It mentionrd that her parents didnt find out until a few days before she was supposed to graduate. Most likely the party was already planned in advance and the parents just chose to believe her lies.
michael bertucci I agree. Hopefully he could sleep at night though. He has real skills and sadly they are being put to use to save a guilty child killer instead of innocent people begging for help
They finding it hard to come to terms with the fact that the little girl that they raised and possibly poured all their love into could be such a dishonest human being to lead them up the garden path regarding her graduation and attendance records. They hoped, felt sorry for and loved her in the only way they knew how to. She was an adult, a young adult but an adult when her daughter went missing, she was responsible not her parents. She killed her daughter and again her parents struggling to believe that they created such a monster continue to love her, to hope and unfortunately be lied to over and over again. May Angels hold that beautiful little girl in their arms forever and her mother has to live with the truth, live knowing she took her daughters life, her father's character and literally put her family threw hell. She may be able to block it out for now but the past and the truth always surface.
@SouthernTruth Chick NPD, BPD and ASPD (the personality disorder most closely associated with psychopathy & sociopathy) is cluster B...C is avoidant, obsessive compulsive and dependent pd. actually. There's also comorbidity when it comes to personality disorders, so you can have more than one . That being said, I personally don't see BPD in her. I'd say it's ASPD. Psychopaths are narcissistic as well so I can absolutely see why ppl would say NPD (I can also see narcissism in the parents actions when it comes to the saving face part). There's also many psychologists that would argue all personality disordered ppl have been abused. That's your nature vs. nurture debate right there.
@Robert Ritchie Openings and closings in criminal cases aren't facts. There was no evidence other than that accusation, which was unsupported by any testimony because Ms. Anthony did not take the stand.
@9Lives Matter Some would consider being picked on to be abuse. I think the whole debate about that is the widely differing definition of abuse ppl have. Most only think of physical abuse to be abuse but there's also psychological (e.g. emotional, verbal) abuse for example. Neglect is another cause etc.
@SouthernTruth Chick Maybe it would help you to look into CPTSD as well. These 3 diagnoses are pretty similar (PTSD; CPTSD and BPD) and often get mixed up. There are subtle differences but it might help to have a look at videos etc. about the topic.
@SouthernTruth Chick It's a pretty new concept that's not officially recognised as a possible diagnoses everywhere in the world atm. It's not included in the DSM-5 (which is what psychologists in the US usually use) but it is included as a seperate condition in the ICD used in many other countries. So if your therapist uses the DSM, he/she would instead go with another diagnoses. That might be a possible reason. Since there is a lot of overlap, it might also be interesting to read up on CPTSD though and then decide for yourself whether it's helpful.
Her parents are quite old to have a daughter that age. They probably had her when they were in their late 40s early 50s so saw her as their little girl. Still no excuse for them turning a blind eye.
I knew a girl who lied about getting into Harvard, and even claimed that she got a scholarship there. Her parents threw her a big party. Her friends threw her parties. She gave speeches at schools and other events, since we rarely know of people from my country getting into Ivy Leagues. I don’t know when it all came out, but it wasn’t until 2 years after she started university that I found out that she never actually got into Harvard. She got into some university in Boston, and she would even take the effort to go to the Harvard campus so that she could post the Harvard Snapchat filter. So yeah, as bizarre as this seems, there are some people who are so manipulative and so good at lying and they do it so well, everyone around them, parents included, believes them. Had I not known this Harvard girl story personally, I would’ve had a hard time digesting this as well, but now I know what kind of twisted liars can exist out there and I kinda feel bad for the parents
I also read that when she was pregnant she went to her family wedding. Everyone noticed and finally said something. Casey and her mother denied it to the core.
I know a parent who threw a graduation party for a child who got kicked out of school and they posted it on Facebook. They have believed their children’s lies and have covered for them even to the point of doing their homework for them. The parallels freaked me out.
So the parents are responsible for their daughter's lying behavior. Instead of stopping it, they encouraged it, so they're just as responsible for that little girl's death.
jdlech I agree with everything you said, she’s definitely a psychopath. Psychopaths lie, deceive and manipulate people for their own personal gain without feeling or letting off any remorse/empathy. I even searched up psychopath traits and she shows most, if not all, of the traits one would possess. Truly fascinating how they function and kind of disturbing, ngl.
Socal Chris Your dad has no right to physically assault you. He could have made his point without that. Also, why wouldn’t a parent’s first instinct be to ask what is going on and why you’re skipping school..? Instead he’s concerned about himself!
this is just another reason I think they KNEW something happened to her child and they all played it off ... her father was a police officer or whatever so he probably KNEW how to get her out of this situation and probably told her a bunch of tips and tricks to get threw the system ... its crazy to think even back then the system was just as fucked up as it is today
I’m related to family members like this. Had an aunt and uncle hide two suicide attempts of my cousin from everyone to save face, because what really matters is what ppl will say
@Socal Chris because we didn't have truancy officers back then, and after the age of 16 you legally don't have to go to school!! That's the legal age to drop out of school!!
@Przemek Fiolkowski you're missing the point!!! No consequences of her poor actions and desicions just being rewarded for them!! Her parents are more worried about how they look about what she did; than ACTUALLY about what she did!!
She had some sort of holdover her parents, something she could subtly pressure them with to support her versions of events, like graduating and getting a party.
People will sometimes almost do anything to save face. Make their children look better then they actually are. It makes them look like they have not failed them which is a terrible stigma in some instances.
Casey’s parents loved her too much and didn’t punish her for lying. They didn’t even know how to parent their child, and now they’ve taught Casey she can get away with anything as long as she lies.
I don’t doubt that she might have been abused. She may even have DID. I got a creepy feeling back at the start of the video when her dad said he’d give her the “big hug” & she started crying. I think the person making this video, having little experience/knowledge in the area, made an innocent judgement error in his interpretation of that moment in the jail call video. It was my first instinct and I’ve never seen a video about this case until now.
@Sarah Min Do you think she really may have been abused? Possibly developed DID? Rewatch that jail visit from her parents and when he said he’d “hug” her. Her reaction. Listen to your instincts and consolidate it with your professional knowledge of the subject. Having never watched anything related to this case, I find it interesting that my instinct was subsequently later referenced when the “bombshell” comment was made by her lawyer.
Called enabling, that's why she probably has no conscience always pulled up when she fell never got up by herself....something or someone always there....yes parents....I get loving your child and giving to them but when everything is giving there's a sense of entitlement and can do whatever they want without repercussion.
@Erin Wouldn't the friends have to see her diploma if she truly graduated? What about the cap as well. What about talking about the last exams. Students from her class, surely at least one of them would be invited to the party. It's a terribly transparent lie. Not sure how her parents got away with it.
The Mother should have been CHARGED for perjury and obstruction in the very least. Our legal system is flawed. IT IS DEFINITELY NOT the best in the world; I'm sick of hearing this!!
The same kind of parents that does not teach their children how to end questions properly. That means your parents, in case that's too difficult to comprehend.:P
@Damien S I feel your frustration. These prudes over here throwing the word "enabler" way too much out of habit I suppose. Shouting and pointing fingers instead of giving useful insights and imparting lessons. But it's a trend to be righteously angry these days. Pathetic.
@Oneeighteen Psalm Her brother turned out normal. They're like yin and yang. The hate her parents are getting is ridiculous. Casey should exclusively get all the hate. Alas, the more we hate, the more we feel good about ourselves.
I don’t wanna seem like I’m taking up for her parents but I do whatever I can for my children. No I’m not perfect and have made plenty mistakes. Bizarre absolutely. My take is they didn’t want someone else to know and had already sent out invites for the party or to save the embarrassment of there failure. Who knows really. As far as “supporting” her through the court proceedings I can understand that as well not really supporting but just making her think they were so maybe they could learn the truth. That’s what I would do. I’m sure her parents were surprised she got off. It’s been nearly a decade and I’m still beside myself about it. Just makes my stomach turn!
@A.J. Manol I found that to be incredibly bizarre too. Perhaps it's because she's so pathological, such a liar, that she knew what was asked of her on the tests.
Her parents enabled her behavior!!! She controlled that family 😡 they in denial of what a monster they created and faked how beautiful she was! Remember the day she was going to be released?? Oh she looks so beautiful 🤬 seriously?
its all about the image, clearly her and her mum care significantly about there appearance to others, unfortunately that made it seem like you can get away with anything as long as your image looks good.
my elem classmate's parents did... everyone really thought (including me) he graduated college on time coz his parents threw him a party and are telling everyone about his achievements... too bad for them, one of their church mate who also happens to be our elem classmate and his course mate in college ask her friends about it coz she was sure he failed a major subject like her.. Turn's out he has to stay for one more sem (like her)...Funny thing is he didn't attend his own graduation coz they already told everyone that he already march and graduated the previous year.. (I learned about this btw, after she told me that he didn't attend their graduation rites when his name is clearly written in the graduates list.)
Alot of parents would do this. A lot of people care more about their "perfect family" appearance than almost anything. They'll do whatever to fit in and look good. No different then the millions in debt over their head living way above their means to put fit in.
Gee, idk, there’s many reasons. Let’s start with a simple one you should have come up with — they didn’t know. Are you even qualified to ask such questions if you can’t cover the basics before speaking
Her parents were in fantasy land. They were always trying to protect what they hoped was the perfect daughter. They had very deep problems themselves....and reinforced and validated their daughters pathological lying. The grandparents lied too.
She was stunningly good at lying and moreso modern parents give their children the benefit of the doubt even on lies not nearly as intricate. That story that lead to her parents total manipulation was probably years in the making :/
I think whilst wrong then it’s understandable why Cindy would protect her daughter..even the police understood this..she wanted to stop her daughter from being executed, this is normal..although she did tell the police about the smell of a dead body in the car and she must have known deep down what that meant...I don’t know what I would do if this happened to my daughter and she killed her daughter..it’s easy to say you would do this, that and the other, but until your in that situation then you just don’t know.
@Stephen Griggdefinitely a security guard. I'm not sure where they call him a cop in this video if they do, but they do point out where his company had him posted the day in question. Im local and know the little neighborhood where they lived and can tell you it's lower middle class. Nothing special.
@Sean Pizzo its early in the video, he says how the dad could recognize the smell of a dead body coming from the car from his years as a police officer. So they must've just got a little detail wrong. And I didnt think you were knocking the area, nothing wrong with being working class.
Some people are more concerned about their image than their well being. It’s all about how others see them, even to the detriment of themselves.
My dad, when he was younger, used to know a family who lived in a beautiful house, had nice cars, always wore nice clothes, looked like they had all kinds of money. When he went in their house they had no furniture.
several women like that would rather save face than just admit the truth. trying to outdo the neighbors or drive expensive cars and cant pay for it things like that. i was married to one like that for a while. narcissist they want false vanity and will do anything to make themselves look good at the expense of whatever. they dont care who they hurt or what lie they need to tell as long as they appear as perfect people.
@Polka Samurai if you never learn consequences of bad actions you will keep doing bad actions. same reason we have so many people that cant act right when interacting with the police. modern society has never had to cut there own switch or there favorite toy took away for a month.
@Jeffrey Adams Yes but it doesn't necessarily mean that those bad actions are similar to this. Most peoples bad actions are nothing compared to this. On the other hand, being a strict parent might create a monster as well and I feel like in those cases the kids actually do bad bad things eventually.
@Polka Samurai i agree you can be to strict as well. you have to teach them to be responsible not treat them like they are animals. still parents that give in and cover are terrible. if you knew how many people i grew up with that are now heavy into drugs went to jail etc... that had parents just like this.
I feel like they were likely very permissive - they were older and busy with their jobs, but felt guilty and blamed themselves for any of her shortcomings (somewhat justifiably) and helped cover up all her failures because of embarrassment of how it reflected on them. Nature is a thing, and it just happens that the nature and nurture had a terrible synergy. I don't believe George abused her - I think that was another lie she told to cast herself in the best possible light and what she knew would get her sympathy from people.
lol my parents did that to me haha, but it was because I got very sad cause i didn´t graduate with my generation so they did that to make me feel better. (I did graduate in the end tho, just a year later haha)
@Feels Man I highly doubt that, spoiling someone alone doesn't turn them into a cold hearted killer. It can make them selfish and neglectful, but a killer? No, I wouldn't be blaming the parents here. Spoiling someone doesn't completely remove the ability to have empathy or morality. As it was said, she always seemed to have a bubbly personality at the wrong times, sounds like she was a sociopath to me, just trying to pretend to be normal.
@Robert Ritchie really believe that statement??? As a policeman,I think he know the low very well...how the hell her mom still live with him after that statement? Because she(Cassie) lied,she tried everything to escape,and she did. In the same statement her lawyer said the little girl drawn in their pool and the father helped with the little body...why they bothered to put the duck tape then ? They are lot of ways to hide a body,I am sure he could knew,somehow to not be discovered...it.a a nonsense what you say in the last sentence...
@Feels Man I don’t think that’s true. They raised her to be a narcissistic liar who always gets her way, but only Casey Anthony could make the choice to escalate that into murder—nobody else bears responsibility.
The type of people who put up a front for appearance sake when the reality is much different. She must’ve been a god damn nightmare to deal with on a daily basis.
It's like a weird recipe. Her parents loved her but they let her get away with lying. She was spoiled. her mom and dad didn't discipline her so she learned how to be selfish. They were unauthentic people. A phony public image is what was important. Looking good in front of people and Casey looking like a high-school graduate was more important than Casey facing the music and their family looking bad. What better way to be fake than to throw a mock graduation party. Casey learned how to do that growing up. she never learned responsibility. Just be fake and lie about things and you'll be fine. But a lot of people are like this and don't commit murder. With other murder cases and serial killers it's always been the unanswerable question why does someone make that decision to cross that line, but she had all the prerequisites.
@Leslie Cleary there's no such classification. You must be confused with a different personality disorder or co-morbid personality disorders. Sociopaths are the ones that can usually fool psychiatrists, sometimes NPD too. If you tell me the name of the offender in the case you're talking about I can look into it, can't find anything from the description you gave.
@Secret Diary of a Foodie "Sociopaths are the ones who fool psychiatrists, sometimes NPD too." Agreed. Jdlech describes the situation well. Read his comment (if you can find it) and see what you think... Thanks for your input. You have an interesting name, like...yay, food!! (Perhaps will copy.& paste Jdlech later..)
@Jodie Finney psychopaths generally have no trouble passing psych evals and pulling the wool over everyone's eyes, including most mental health professionals.
@bigtoe happened to a friend of mine. And she was adopted from South Korea. She learned how to manipulate because she told.her parents dhe would tell.them "their dirty secret" and they would bribe her with money so as she grew up.she learned how to con money out of them and her family was a pretty well off family! She ended up with drug problems because of it.
The kind of parents who let their kid talk disrespectful to them. Just look at her talking to her mom on the phone saying it's a waste, hollering and curse. And when they visit they be all calling her "sweetheart, gorgeous" Like wtf
@Socal Chris I’d be angry at my kids if they skipped school but not worry about myself going to jail because my kid didn’t want to go to school. It sounds like your dad was selfish in a way for he seemed he was more worried about law enforcement possibly cracking down on him than worried about why you skipped in the first place. Idk I could be wrong but that’s just my opinion.
The mother had def some issues that related to how Casey turned out. When caylee was born the mom didn’t even comfort her daughter she just said “it’s like I have a baby Casey all over again” or something along those lines and only cared about the baby. The father was just submissive and depressed and took this crazy dynamic
@Kim Bryan yeah, a lot of narcisissts have their entire families cover for them, some of whom are narcs themselves. I used to live in the same town as this one narc who would literally harass anyone who would walk by his house, in order to smear and slander his ex wife. Any time a person would refuse to participate or listen and walk away, he would literally then turn on that person and have his family harass people. They would also come over to clean his house, lie about his drug use, and pay his legal bills. If not for having enablers these people would likely be spending their lives in prison. Total society shit stains
@Waves On Swim Why the fuck would any parent tell the whole world about their son's suicide attempts? Especially in this judgemental social media crap world where anyone can be put on blast. Dude, that's private family issues.
@Subash Chandra Some nurses make high hourly wages, depending on their specialties and whether they have a Bachelor's of Science degree in Nursing. If they work overtime, they can make excellent paychecks. But, if they don't work they don't get paid - no paycheck, no money. Cindy Anthony came of age when two year nursing degrees were the norm. She most certainly does not have a BS so she doesn't make the money that today's graduates (mandatory Bachelor's of Science degree) make.
@Pizzahighfive I’ll clarify.. they hid suicide attempts from the rest of the family to keep up the facade of the picture perfect life they wanted to project. I didn’t say they were supposed yo shout it from rooftops. They were obsessed with how people perceived them and were preoccupied with being admired rather than the well-being of their child.
@Jodie Finney It would have to be a deeper issue than being a narcissist, though. There would need to be a more malignant issue to cause this type of hysteria.
The fact that juries can be swayed into forgetting you don't accidentally drown in a swimming pool by having your mouth and nose duct taped closed is why we need a new criminal justice system.
Any normal person with a child in their lives can imagine how you'd be desperate with panic if they were missing and you'd do anything to get them back. Even in comparison to other murderers her reactions are bizarre.
I’ve watched hours of your videos today they’re very well put together and very intriguing. Nicely done. I usually don’t have an appetite for things that feature our Justice system as a main character, but these kept me entertained regardless.
Watching her crying at her verdicts being ruled "not guilty" and never crying over the loss of her daughter or any mention of her daughter, and actually being ANNOYED by people trying to help find her really says a whole lot. Watching that part made my stomach turn into knots.
Also remember when she threw her loving farther under the buss by saying that he touched her as a kid, good luck lying your way out of that one now your free
Yeah. Her daughter is missing for several WEEKS and she's lying to the detectives, she's way too calm and collected about the whole thing. I mean, I don't have kids of my own, but if I imagine my nephews or nieces getting kidnapped, I would be worried sick about their well-being and I'd do everything in my power to help find them (and that WOULDN'T involve sending the detectives on a wild goose chase). Heck, Casey's friends are showing more sympathy to the whole situation than Casey is.
The worst thing about this? I read an article "Where is Casey Anthony now" and apparently she's planning to have another kid...
@Sloppy Oyster it’s crazy since it HAS to be an unanimous decision. You’d think at least ONE person on the jury would be able to have some sense. Absolutely sickening she got away with murder... It’s sad that a charismatic lawyer can be the sole difference in a trial decision
It seems impossible unfathomable to me. This case has always baffled me but once I became a mother it seemed impossible someone could be sooo callous and regardless if she’s guilty or not (obv she is) HOW could she show NO regard for her even a little bit.
@john They shot too high with the conviction. There was no hard evidence so they couldn’t charge her with 1st degree murder. Had they charged her with 2nd degree, she’d be in prison right now.
I was watching her parents as the verdicts were read. I couldn't see her mother's face, but her father showed no emotion as one "not guilty" verdict after another was read.
@Kay Hope pfft. no way. figured this out right at the beginning. father was a cop. mommy and daddy probably found a way to finagle this whole thing to keep the princess out of prison.
@donkeydump63 they are total enablers... I guarantee you they know she did it but they didn’t want to lose both the granddaughter and daughter. I would disown my child idc
@Polemical Kobra I heard about it for the 1st degree murder it was 10-2 and it only took 30 mins discussion to turn the 2 over. For manslaughter it was 6-6 and after a few hour debate including mentioning how nice and friendly Caseys lawyer was vs the persecution lawyer who seemed like a dick they voted 11-1 pretty much repeating everything Caseys lawyer said in his closing statement as the reasons why they cant judge her guilty. Then that 1 guy literally said whatever do what you guys want and changed his vote... Then a few years ago he did an interview saying his decision haunts him everyday and he wished he stood his ground more
@Melissa B There's no doubt that her parents committed some serious blunders while raising her. On the other hand, the extraordinary situation they were - and still are - in is impossible to prepare for. It's easy for an outside observer to say what he or she would do, but the truth is you can't know unless you've been there.
So sad. Her family really loves her, and even though their suspicion leaks through, they still want to love her as only parents could. Imagine what the family could've been had she still been alive. She would've have the very best grandparents. Shame. Take this video to call your parents and grandparents and just talk to them, it really does mean the world.
I can’t state how infuriated I was seeing her get away with that. she showed absolutely NO remorse for her missing child yet felt terrible for herself. the jury should be ashamed of themselves for letting someone like this get away with such a thing.
This is crazy. When I was watching the first half of this video I noted in my brain that it was known that she used to get out of any hard situation by being a pathological liar and towards the end of the video she is ruled not guilty by following this same manipulative character . Why does everyone give her second chance no matter what outrageous thing she does?
The father was an ex police officer he initially said that in the trunk of Casey’s car he could smell that a d,ead body had been there . Then he changed his story and said it was pizza he smelled . Casey’s parents knew their daughter and I’m sure they knew she’d m.urdered Kaylee . But I believe they’d lost their granddaughter and didn’t want to lose their daughter , so they stood by her . However , I believe that they never made Casey accountable , or disciplined her growing up and always walked on egg shells around her . And they were still doing it . If my daughter had m.urdered my grandchild I would not stand by her and I would make sure she was punished by going to p.rison After the case was over . Casey cut all contact with her parents .
I remember yelling at the TV when the news came out she was not guilty. All my family and friends had been following the story and we were so sure justice would be served. I am still mad!
@A. B.D. And they had evidence that a heart sticker was placed on the tape on her mouth. They showed that those same stickers were in the Anthony home.
A. B.D. Hell if i know. The man was fantastic at controlling the jury though. Absolutely top notch defense, honestly some of the best she could’ve gotten.
@Hunter Williams I know right? How sad is it that murderers walk free, and innocent people go to prison based solely on the amount of money they can spend on either a stellar legal team, or an over worked and under paid public defender. It's such bullshit....
@A. B.D. yeah. I think there was, but it doesn't matter as I believe the defense tried to state, that Kaylee drowned in the pool and Casey then buried her in the woods, although the story doesn't add up, since Kaylee already have been dead. Especially these internet searches: foolproof suffocation should've been really enough for the conviction.
Hun Ter not just the attorney those 31 days she had to do what she did and get rid of caylee saved her! all the evidence GONE... just not enough and the law is the law... If there is ANY reasonable doubt at all she’s innocent. God knows what she did and she will be punished for eternity.
World Peace So?? she doesn’t care about losing her father or what other people thing about her... It’s not ya but anything she got off on the murder of her own child!
To be honest, the way her lawyer talked to the jury was like he was talking to little kids. He wasn't good, they were just bad, which is a cherry on top of all this madness...
I wish they made a lie detector test that was 100% foolproof. And it will only be used for murder trials. There's too many people in jail for life for crimes they didn't commit and there's also too many that are walking freely for crimes they did commit.
It’s mind blowing she got away with this. Like how does that even happen? She’s 100000000% guilty!!!!!!!! This just goes to show you our justice system is TERRRRRIBLE!!!!!!!!
@Carter Hostetler If she's not guilty, then there's still something very very wrong about this woman, and this case is too hard to judge. I'm fascinated with this channel, and after seeing this case I apparently have no idea what ''evidence beyond a reasonable doubt'' is.
JMT Animal Rap I haven’t heard the whole case, but I did listen to part of it while I was at law school. But what I do know about the case is the the prosecuting team brought up a lot of empirical data and facts. They played to the hearts of the jury instead of the facts. I don’t believe that they showed any proven facts, such as her DNA being on the duct tape, or the blanket. Also, the opening statement from the prosecuting side was very weak.
@Carter Hostetler Since im not native speaker, sometimes its hard for me when i listen. What did they say about the google searches? Because in one case that was pretty strong evidence (google searches). I mean how's that not ''beyond reasonable doubt'' that they did it?
JMT Animal Rap That’s a good question. I’m not sure how much that was brought up because the main point that the prosecutors were trying to make is that, “Why would she wait five weeks before reported her child missing?” Which is a very strong argument. I’ve never used Google searches in one of my cases, but they don’t seem to be a viable source of evidence. Even though it seems like it is, we all look up something that I’m or out of context, looks quite bad.
Yup. This is how dangerous psychopaths are. They literally can get away with murder and somehow manipulate themselves out of it. Look at Ted Bundy, who almost got away with being a SERIAL KILLER. We need to wisen up and get educated on these personality types, so we stop getting fooled so easily.
@Carter Hostetler Ye, thats the thing. I wonder where the border is. And hows that an argument - that she's a pathological liar. She didn't lie when they asked her ''U think u are helping us by lying?'' She's just saying things people want to hear. If u lie to authorities, it shouldn't matter if u used to lying or not omg...
I think the same would of happened with chris Watts on American Murderer. He would’ve of walked if the neighbor wouldn’t have had video of him and didn’t come out and asked what was wrong
ricardo rivera I agree. Jury’s hardy ever decide based on the behavior of the suspect. This is because the defense always states that everyone handles shock differently.
* raises hand * guilty and not only that, but somehow i find that theres something corrupt about the jury and judge to. if anything someone would at least be charged with covering up a kid napping, and i mean that's beside the point she went out partying and drinking and renting videos during the 31 days. she murdered that young girl. but whats even scarier is somehow enuf money was paid to the right people, and they didnt charge her with anything at all. she got a slap on the wrist for murdering a 3 year old.
sean gleason Paying off Jury members is quite illegal and would amount to a federal crime with long prison time. No lawyer would waste their own time and money to get a jury conviction in their favor. Also, the lady that this case is about would not be able to do it by herself, and would need to know everyone in the jury, have them agree to a sum of money, then none of them can say anything. Also, they can’t know the other members of the jury are being paid off because that would lead to a large scale blackmailing operation. Of course this is pure speculation and is quite ridiculous.
@Swedeski no, the tape was found near her body but they could never determine if it was ever actually on Caylee. The heart sticker was inadvertently destroyed by the coroner (if I recall correctly).
She so obviously did it, but unfortunantly, you cant convict someone of murder, if they know know how the victim died.......Which i hate.... I get it, but i fucking hate it,.
@IAmWhomUPray2, with all due respect, your three word comment leads me to believe you are here, commenting, simply to start something. Come on, no one wants to play games here. Those of us who believe she is guilty are talking with each other...😒😒😒
@SuperAussieOi There have been many, I'm sure who have told themselves that Hell is not real, in an effort to console themselves. Some need evidence of Hell, some only see the lack of evidence as support for the existence of. Her time will come.
@Nick Gibbs, I know someone is going to shout, "blah, blah, blah...reasonable doubt...!" so can we just take a nationwide vote, like right now and go get her?! God...
Kora Pace That's not entirely true. There still can be reasonable doubt, that's why it's guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Which just means that even if a jury member has some reasonable doubts about a case, they can still think they are guilty because of the evidence. They don't seem to mention that to the jury panel. They didn't when I was on a jury. It was the lawyer that mentioned it to us during the trial as I guess he realised there were things brought up that could cause some doubts.
michel Guevara There are plenty of women in prisons all around the world for behaving badly. And women should have equal rights, but I can not stand those over board feminists that hate men and think we do not need men etc.
The jurry let her off cause her DNA wasn’t on the duct tape. There were too many holes in the case surrounding how Caylee was actually murdered. I still think it’s bullshit
Kayla Dew Yeah, that's what people are saying. Because the charge was murder one. (Not sure of the exact terms) but if she was charged with the next one down, they may have found her guilty. Still I think there was plenty of circumstantial evidence.
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Kayla Dew i have been on a jury and it's really strange how others process the evidence or lack of evidence. With the jury I was on, some were really stupid, some were not even listening, and a few of the males were more interested in the pretty young defence lawyer. And it seemed like these males were just on her side no matter what the evidence was.
Wtf is the actual point in having a judge?! When a bunch of un-trained civilians make the final decision?! Ive never seen the logic in that. Everyone else in the room has been to law school for decades and yet the people who get to make the verdict are ones with no schooling on the matter and can't see when they're being fooled/manipulated by people who have been trained in the industry and know all the tricks of the trade. Put a bunch of non-biased attorneys who aren't on the case - in the jury box and there would be a completely different outcome!!!!!!
@M they've overlooked so much of her bullshit. Who's to say they won't welcome her back at some point?! I don't blame her parents for what happened. She is the killer, but at the same time I do recognize there were some significant issues within that family, starting with the obvious blinders they had when it came to her constant lying and manipulation...
@Shina Gogue 弔 弓 弗 川 Ὀφιοῦχος someone always mentions it, don't they?! This was just a bad deal. Period. A shock and disappointment to say the very least.
@Emo To The Extremo you aren’t just saying. And I doubt her color played a huge role in the verdict. Everyone knows white folks be doing stupid crazy shit like this. Plus the jury wasn’t all white. They were brainwashed. Much of that is going around these days.
@Amy Shadle yeah I know............. It’s just surreal because there’s an overwhelming amount of evidence that she did it.......... I don’t get how she was found not guilty
If not found for murder , which I guess they couldn’t prove , she should have been charged with negligent manslaughter. She should have been a mother to a child. And tossed in jail
Cause on defense, they really never found how that kid die? That ONE thing/question hits the prosecution hard. No matter how normal people look different about it but according by laws they have no evidence at all to declare the mother guilty.
Baby murder, but can you not say that anymore because anti-choice people made it about abortion, like how 'save the children' is about adrenochrome/pizzagate now.
@Agapē well at his job of course but you can't even judge him as a person because he simply provided her, the right to a fair trial. Besides she got off because they simply could not pin here on anything
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! never
For clarification, "both direct and circumstantial evidence are considered legitimate forms of proof in federal and state courts. A person may be convicted of a crime based on circumstantial proof alone. And indeed, with the prevalence of mistaken identification and false testimony, inferential proof is oftentimes thought to be even more reliable than direct proof."
@Amy Shadle that's irrelevant to what I'm talking about and you know it. So how about stop being facetious and learn to accept responsibility. Blaming others yet look at you?
@Swedeski And you see a lot of people saying there was no hard evidence. Well, this is hard evidence because it points directly at Casey and nobody else. This connects Casey to the crime.
@gunnerzz11 An innocent person can be simply nervous and that would send a false trigger to the lie detector. This could lead to an innocent person being wrongly convicted
@Kevin Emmers Yeah obviously our current lie detecters aren't good enough. But surely technology will come up with some foolproof lie detecter in the future. Then we don't have to go through all this stuff. There's too many innocent people in jail, and guilty people walking the streets. The current system is failing us.
@Marv’s View Her lawyer literally saved her life. It's unbelievable how he can make those accusations without even needing to back it up. Her parents cared more about her child than she did.
Her dad intentionally ruined the whole case to protect her. He knew she did it and he was honest for a split second then decided to lie and cover for her.
Words cannot fathom how disgraceful this crime was to an innocent young girl. It is beyond comprehension how this Jury got the verdict so wrong. I wonder if they even think back on their deliberations and realized they got it wrong? I wonder if any member of the defence team ever thought she was guilty and how do you even represent pure evil like that?
@Divesh Davdra they were interviewed, some of the jury, at least. I believe the jury here does NOT feel that Casey is innocent, but was compelled to find her not guilty at trial because the evidence could not get them beyond that "reasonable doubt" bit.
the prosecutors charged her with first degree murder...which basically means premeditated..caylee died by her mothers hands yes..accidentally...the prosecution should have known better..they knew they would have to prove it was premeditated...and how could they..it should have been second degree...she walked because the prosecutors messed up...and i get why they were so angry...cooler heads should have prevailed
When I first posted this comment I was speaking from my heart. Those of us who followed the story, trial and otherwise, understand there was not ample evidence to convict Casey on first degree murder or even manslaughter. Even so, for so many of us our hearts told us she killed that baby.
Anyone thinking or commenting she got off simply because she is a woman...
Mmm, no, I disagree. Delve a bit deeper and you will most likely come to a different conclusion.
The fact remains that as much as so many wanted to see her go down, there was not enough to successfully take her down, not on those charges with the available evidence.
Casey at the very least was proven repeatedly to be an absolute LIAR. Caylee could have remained alive and thriving absolutely free of any effort and/or obligation on Casey's part. She could have just walked away, allowing her parents to continue raising Caylee.
There are no words to adequately express the level of selfishness she displayed in killing HER OWN DAUGHTER.
Maybe "dumbfounded" was not the best choice of words. What I meant to say is that I was disappointed, am disappointed, repeatedly, each and every time I think about this case.
i am not ... did you heard how the defendant lawyer wiped the prosecution ass on the floor ,,, he scary good. we all know she guilty but dudde the jury are not allowed to see things like us and only hear the lawyers
@indiciaobscure gender bias is the most effective bias in court. Women get favorable rulings and sentences with a factor 3× more than race or even age. Its just the fact shes a woman. Yes they have studied it.
See, I think the did it but we see this angle and its obvious. The way the prosecution handled this case was absolutely HORRENDOUS. We can blame the Jury all we want but if you look at how the prosecution went after Casey, they didn't do their jobs. Go back and look at the prosecution's arguments, TERRIBLE. Not to mention, that search for "chloroform" was found only one time not the alleged 30+ times. So even if they found her guilty, the whole thing could have been deemed a mistrial. The prosecution should be ASHAMED.
I haven’t finished yet, but there seems to be a lack of motive. I believe she past all her tests, but she seems to be a sociopath to me. I suspect her daughter was in the way of her doing something somehow and she murdered her to get her out of the way. Her own self gratification seems to be the main priority in her life, regardless of the cost.
My theory is that it's because she was a young woman. She's not the stereotypical murderer and therefore she wasn't punished as such. She definitely had a princess complex and for some reason it even worked in avoiding punishment for killing her own child. So disgusting.
Not being from the US, I'm only finding out now she was found not guilty via your comment. She's obviously guilty. How on earth was she found not guilty? Lack of evidence?
@A. B.D. Each to their own but with monsters like her walking around as a free woman then it only bolsters my notion that we already live in Hell on this earth in this inescapable material universe/dimension and that the whole point is to enlighten the soul and better the self so that you move up the tree of life or else you'll perpetually reincarnate into this world.
This has to be Hell; this planet is a nightmare to exist upon and for most people, life is unfair and rife with poverty, slavery (consumerism and slavery to materialism) and misery.
TL;DR: In most other countries she'd be rotting in solitary or protective custody because she'd be dead in a week in general population.
@Lost Shadow what exactly is a petition going to do? She's been found not guilty. Even if they find definitive proof she did it, they can't take her back to court. She could come out tomorrow and say "I did it. Here's how I did it and I fucking loved it" and they can't do ANYTHING. The 5th amendment of the US Constitution provides that no person can be prosecuted for the same crime. It's called the prohibition of Double Jeopardy.
@Amy Shadle based on that, you could be innocent, end up 8n a bad situation and because you're unpopular a nationwide vote would find you guilty. That's exactly why that system isn't used. It is ripe for corruption. It actually has a name :tyranny of the majority.
@Millie Virtue the point of the judge is to make sure the law is followed. They make sure each lawyer follow the rules of evidence, and arbitrate disputes between the 2 sides.
Also sometimes judges do become the finders of fact in a bench trial.
@Waheed Abbas that's the rub. They couldn't prove that Caylee was actually murdered. Her cause of death is "undetermined" officially. It's really hard to prove murder when you can't prove the deceased WAS murdered.
@hannah michaels they did. She went to trial, was found not guilty. They can't come after her again even if they find definitive proof or even if she confesses.
@hannah michaels the problem is that they DIDN'T have overwhelming evidence. They don't even know how Caylee died. Her cause of death officially is "undetermined". That is a big hurdle in a murder case.
@Kenneth Polido thank you! If they can't prove Caylee was murdered, or even how she died at all, it's a huge hurdle to get to a murder conviction. It's hard to say " She murdered her" when you can't even prove she WAS murdered.
@Agapē what do you think a trial is? You are trying to sway a jury to your way of thinking. You act as though this is something new? It is literally every trial ever.
@PeekaPlaysPC not in this case. She has been tried and found not guilty. The 5th amendment provides protection against being prosecuted more than once for the same crime. She could admit it tomorrow and not a thing could be done to put her in jail.
@dennis martin Sad for all of us, that do not believe in such fairytales. This woman lives a happy and free live and paid for that with the life of her innocent daughter. End of story. Failure of justice.
@Tim Skully pretty much the same. There wasn't a lot of evidence of anything specific outside of lying. They definitely over/mis-charg3d her for what they had.
@Woody There is a term for that. They call it "evil." Sad for you indeed. There are consequences for ones actions. Only a fool would believe that those would not carry over after ones inevitable demise.
The thing is you have to prove she did it without any doubt , which they didn’t cause it could’ve been any of them near her , not much proof Casey did it
No proof fam, this video was shown to us in the perspective that "we already know she did it" but there is no proof ever in the video that she ever did anything to her daughter.
Well, I am - but then again, I wasn't there in the court room. Looking at this video alone, I would agree with you 100% - and also I suspect it's more of a fuck-up of the prosecution and brilliance of the defence. But at the end of the day, it is innocent until proven guilty, and if we let the media convict people, we're going to hell in a handbasket.
She and the lawyer must've paid the jurors to say she was not guilty, there is no way in HEEELLLL the jurors really believed she was innocent without being persuaded by money in the background somehow
It's absolutely insane, as someone not from America, I heard about Casey Anthony referenced sometimes, but didn't know how the trial ended, I was so blown away to see it worked, crooked lawyers at work here, no ethics at all, double standards all the way, this is insane.
@dennis martin Careful there boy. Everyone can believe what they want. But dare not compare me with that witch. You are not superior based on your belief. You have no monopoly on truth.
@Woody Didn't say I did. I stated the obvious. I didn't compare you to shit. I just called a spade, a spade. Many fools feel as if they're in the clear, as long as they don't get caught. Did you not state that earlier?
@dennis martin I knew you would play this semantic game. Thank you for confirming my suspicion of you being an incredibly small-minded individual. You were just too predictable.
@Clint.Beastwood there are many attractive women currently sitting in prison. For murder. I would agree that being attractive likely did not hurt her case, but I also believe there was much more at play here than simply her good looks.
The entire story, including where she is and what she is doing currently, still leaves me wondering WHAAAAAT?!!
@A. B.D. he took the case pro Bono. There was reports from people inside his office saying they found Casey naked in the office. How true that is I don't know because it was on the news and it could've been some cretin trying to get some fame off the situation. But I do believe that story.
They overcharged her based on the evidence available. Had they charged her with felony neglect and negligent homicide she would be in prison right now. Instead they tried for Murder 1 which they could never prove beyond a reasonable doubt. The prosecutor should have been fired.
@Worldwide Wyatt I tend to agree, at least in general terms, but it doesn't really settle my mind in terms of all the lying, years of it, how so many around her seem(ed) to be avoiding the truth or were in such deep denial...
...and this question will always haunt me. Why not simply leave the baby for her parents to raise as they already were to some extent, why not simply take less and less responsibility for Caylee as they would undoubtedly assume more and more responsibility, all while allowing her to live as the self-centered person she always was and always will be? Just why?!
@Lola S she led the cops and them on an entire wild goose chase that she really didn’t face any repercussions for anymore. It’s wild how she completely cleaned up everything basically
I live in Central Florida and my ex mother in law lived just 5 miles from where the Anthony's lived. We watched this all unfold every single day on every local news channel. I was actually in the jury pool but they never got to my number. I wish I had been picked. There would've at least been a hung jury. One of the biggest problems was they went for 1st Degree murder. If they hadn't, she would've been convicted. And as for her lawyer, she paid him with sex (all while accusing her father of sexually molesting her). This case makes me soooo angry!!! 😡🤬😭
@El Serratos Yeah. She's in West Palm Beach, FL. She works for a private investigator firm taking pictures and she also does personal photography. She recently got into a quarrel of sorts at a bar she frequents there. Someone threw a drink on her and called her a murderer. She's ruined so many lives. Her dad is in bad health and even tried to kill himself, twice. And her parents are still together, but they don't really associate. Her mom is still supportive. Her dad wants nothing to do with her (can't imagine why 🙄).
I was, until the end to be honest... i even did some digging and found out the duct tape was heart shaped. What if she did get sexually abused at 8 and that caused her to have a personality disorder, she could possibly have this fake character who is a pathological liar. And even in the diary, she could be referring to the fact that she burried the body instead of coming forward. This is all speculation tho! I dont really know what to believe
@indiciaobscure nothing to do with white. She’s a very committed sociopath. Most people would have caved under all that pressure, but her denial game was strong.
I never get the reason behind having jurors and a jury to determine a crime. You have professionals who do this for a living, but instead of using professional, you get a dozen ordinary people, majority of them are idiots, to make a decision. Fucking ridiculous.
@Carter Hostetler those were not out of context lol If I search for how to make a bomb and then something related to me blows up by a home made bomb...
I watched a video explaining how it's because they went for 1st degree murder and that if they would have went for 2nd degree murder she would have been guilty... kinda crazy but I guess they had enough for 2nd degree but they went for 1st degree cuz I think they were trying to go for the death penalty or sum...
I was so angry watching this play out on the news! Literally all the signs pointed to guilty.. But damn.. that attorney was good. I find it so crazy how people can just let a murderer walk freely..
i still just don’t understand why she showed no emotion towards her child’s death and wasn’t guilt. AND why is no one talking about her remains found in a blanket? WTF
@Carter Hostetler the Google searches were never brought into evidence because they weren't checked. The police didn't know that Firefox was an internet browser, so they didn't check it, only her internet explorer searches.
Florida is the only place in the US where you can convince people with the idea of conspiracy that a murder with iron clad evidence did not happen...... gotta leave this world behind
@shashlik81 Wow this is an old comment section. If you were to search for, “How to make a bomb” and a homemade bomb incident occurs that is related to you, it wouldn’t be harsh incriminating evidence. Google searches are used in court more as a way of showing someone’s character, not as a proof of guilt (that’s mostly anecdotal but i’m sure that would check out empirically)
so sad. if the prosecution's final words were a reminder of the search history and duct tape suffocation, it may have been enough. but ofc they cannot be faulted for the shitty manipulation the defence team practiced
Same with George Zimmerman. He should be rotting in prison for murder too... actually I believe it was a hate crime if you listen to his string of 911 calls.
If you know anything about the case and law then you would know why she got found not guilty. She didn't get found innocent. The prosecution fucked up. Everyone in that jury would tell you that they believe she killed her daughter. But the evidence fucking sucked. Looking at this it seems like it's a lot, but when you're creating a first degree murder case and such, you have to prove within a reasonable doubt that it happened exactly like you're trying to portray. They didn't have a cause of death, they didn't have fingerprints, there was plenty of evidence to show that she knew something but if there's any doubt that she did everything that they're saying, they can't vote guilty. The defense raised a ton of reasonable doubt. But here's the thing, what if her boyfriend chloroformed her? And then the girl died. Did Casey cover it up? Yep did Casey do something wrong? Yep did Casey do the murder? Nope. That right there is reasonable doubt. I don't think she tried to kill her. I think she tried to knock her out so she could go party and she accidentally killed her. I would have voted not guilty as well. And I would bet my entire life savings my house that she killed her daughter. But it wouldn't be enough to vote guilty in the case that was presented.
@Thicker Constrictor you're writing style is much like mine, all the points you've made similar if not spot on to mine; you're very much "preaching to the choir." My words have everything to do with what I believe in my heart to be true, and I will likely never be at peace with the results of her trial, even as I am familiar with the case and know why things likely turned out as they did.
"Show of hands, who is STILL absolutely DEVASTATED by, FRUSTRATED with, SICK over this outcome?"
This is what I might have written instead because the death of Caylee was so tragic, so unnecessary, and I will always believe Casey played a significant role...
They should’ve discussed findings of the autopsy during that trial. Huge flaw in the argument that Caylee drowned when she was found with duck tape around her mouth, along with the car smelling like a dead corpse and the diary submission stating “I’ve made the right decision”. A guilty Caysee walks scott free.
✋I'm also waiting for the defense to explain the duct tape, the diary entries, the tattoo she had done WHILE HER DAUGHTER WAS STILL MISSING, why she went out PARTYING of all things while her daughter was still missing, the smell of a DEAD BODY in the car trunk, the car itself, why she lied about her business trip, why she kept making up people, including the babysitter, why she didn't seem at all concerned about her daughter, her google searches about suffocation, the list goes on.
If it was a man he would've gotten charged, the "justice" system is incredibly lenient on women. Women get charged less time for the same exact crimes as men and the media wouldn't of let this slide had it been a man, he would've been held accountable
Caseys lawyer is what saved her. He did the most immaculate job of distracting them from any potentially damning evidence (Caylees taoed mouth, Caseys interrogation tapes and so on...) by capitalising on the "importance" of the fact that there was no proof of how Caylee died. He almost had me convinced tbh. And it really shows how - when it comes to a jury - its all about which lawyer can stir up the best story regardless of the evidence that can prove otherwise.
I can’t even believe that she got away. What a terrible person. Killed her daughter and threw her family under the bus to get away from it. And I saw people on social media defending her too. Unbelievable
@Alan Gantala he’s got a point, but not a valid provable point. It’s proven that juries tend to take it easier on semi-attractive white young women. At this point, it’s anyone’s guess on why she actually got away with it.
@Insider Outlet definitely doesn't excuse it, shes evil but it could be true considering most people don't get this evil and heartless without some type of childhood trauma
@Rebecca Sings she can get help while she's in prison so that her eyes can be opened to how vicious she was to caylee and she can finally drown in guilt instead of being heartless and remorseless, but she should NOT be allowed back into society. she is truly evil. prison will atleast let her feel a fraction of the suffering she inflicted on caylee.
@egg mcmuffin donno if prison will do that. It's probably gonna add up to the trauma. And she is going to get what she had done when she gets started on her healing journey. And I didn't say she should get back to her normal life. Nobody is truly evil. I hope she gets the help she needs so that she can get better
@Rebecca Sings yes, some people ARE truly evil, and casey is an example. caylee will never get a chance to heal. to laugh, to smile, to feel joy again. she will never get a chance to "get better". casey stole that possibility from her. she's gone forever, all because of casey. i hope she drowns in guilt, although i know a heartless person like her could never fathom remorse. it's crazy how much sympathy evil people get. scary actually.
@Princess E Ville they're not bs. It's facts. Trauma did this to the lady and you're completely refusing to see that. I'm not saying what she did was okay. I'm saying that she needs help. Try to understand what trauma does if it's not healed
@Princess E Ville that person is one those naive people who think peace and love fixes everything and that evil people "just need love 🥺💕". its clear she sympathizes with casey and wants to paint her as some sort of helpless victim. those kinds of people think they're being "progressive" or something
@Playing with FUSION ikr.?? I mean wtf is going on? She murders a poor, innocent, defenseless child and people STILL side with HER..?? So if I took a life today, then what..?? I should just get some counseling and boom I’m fixed..?! If I remember correctly, most serial killers also had some sick, rough trauma from their childhood. But hey, I guess we were wrong, right? Looks like all they needed was a therapy session with Dr. Phil lol
@Rebecca Sings Are you one of those lunatics that believes any accusation of sexual misconduct from a woman, regardless of overwhelming evidence and a history or constant lies? What more could she possible have done than murdering her own daughter and then go partying after while writing in her diary it was the right decision for her before she doesn't deserve to be believed at face value? Some people just are evil, we call them sociopaths. They have zero regard for anyone but themselves. Our Prisons are full of them because for almost all of them their nature eventually catches up to them.
Actually, I think it was probably an accident. And then she didn't want to take responsibility for it because she is a spoiled, selfish, immature child. I highly doubt that she planned to murder her daughter, though. Why would she? Her parents were already taking care of her daughter whenever she wanted, and also supporting her. She wasn't tied down by her child at all. She wasn't living like a poor single mom on welfare. There is no motive. I think it was an accident.
For me, I feel like the fact that she didn’t call for help is enough to put her in jail. It’s like neglect if you ask me. She never said they threatened Her if he called the cops she just didn’t because she was afraid of what would happen. Which is fucking stupid. This isn’t a movie. Unless they say don’t call the cops, you call the cops. She didn’t call the cops because she killed Caylee, or because she really did drown in the pool and didn’t wanna seem like a bad mom or murder which to me is still jail worthy. Not to mention the lies and google searches that came after the fact. Smh. I hope there really is a hell😂
I remember this case. I followed it when it first happened. I didn't realize she was this emotionless and uncaring. I didn't know she lead them on a wild goose chase like this. It's crazy
It boggles my mind that this verdict could have been reached, by any jury who listened to the evidence, just from this video alone! The original 911 call and interviews with police are enough to convince me she is guilty, period, unless some groundbreaking evidence proved her innocence beyond any doubt!
Its why people can absolutely detest lawyers (even though I understand the system has to work this way, but the question then comes, who's idea was it to go the whole father molestation route!, and I can't imagine this was anything but her lawyers, so while I understand they have to defend her with all there capabilities, the ethics side of it would say, stick to just truth and facts).
Watching this makes me want to be Judge Dredd. I'd get rid of the lawyers, and Casey for there evil, and the entire jury for being next level stupid, and a complete waste of resource on society!
She lies so smoothly it's scary and dangerous to be around or have kids around a person like this . It's like second nature 99 percent of people would think it's real . Not saying the emotions match but her word play is insanely convincing
It's heartbreaking to know that she accused her dad in court for grape/molestation after seeing the phone call with her parents (while he wore the T-Shirt of Caylee). He was genuinely worried about her and tries to provide words of comfort, and she completely betrayed him. I cannot believe this vile and malicious person was not charged with anything. Fucking disappointing!
hoorible! I feel so sorry for the father and we all know she hasnt been aboused, if anything she has been spoiled by her parents. Her patents seem like good ppl who wanted to inow the truth. They have my sympathy.
@Adriann who do you believe,the chronic liar who lied about every bit of the story and went partying after her daughter died ? also, since we dont know if its true, is it fair to assume the father did that to her just bec she said so ? in Europe, a judge would insist that this allegation has 1)nothing to do with her behaviour (not reporting her daughter missing, lying, putting duct tape on her daughters mouth, hiding a body, etc) 2) would not excuse her crime anyway She isnt the first Suspect who puts on the victim face in the courtroom. its also not fair to all the people who actually had to go thru abuse.
@Betty I don’t know to believe her or not because we literally do not know. Only her and her dad know if she was abused or not (I think). Obviously say what you want about your opinion on believing her but I guess I can’t form one either way on the alleged abuse. I totally agree with what you are saying though like I’m not trying to say abuse justifies what she did to her daughter, I’m just saying that me and you personally don’t know if it’s true or not. Is it possible or even likely she was lying? Yeah. But there’s the chance she wasn’t lying too.
I actually am a victim so I know it’s not fair when people lie about it. Definitely not trying to argue with you I agree with the points you made for sure and I’m not excusing her crime away or anything like that. My only point is we just don’t know 100% for sure about the abuse. Have a good day :)
@Adriann Im sorry to hear that. Her case makes me upset every time, it was not about you, apologies. Have a good day, too.
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Tina Witte2022-03-11 01:32:33 (edited 2022-03-11 01:33:02 )
Finally someone who goes for that tangent, was already reading through lots of comments and wondering why nobody mentioned that. It seems like total BS. Throwing her dad under the bus like that! But one thing is certain, the defense attorney knows how to manipulate the jury without facts. She should have become a defense attorney instead of presumedly killing her child.
@Tina Witte funny enough you say that. She started a business called Case Research & Consulting Services LLC. I know its not a lawyer but the business claims to want to help other people who are facing serious legal charges
@Retaliationeffort the way he spoke to her, even in that dire situation, "hey gorgeous". Also, they're pretending like everything is normal, everything is ok... they seemed practised at ignoring the situation. Not sure what else I can put my finger on, but I definitely got the feeling.
If you look at the evidence not presented in court it's clear that Caylee died while Casey was on the phone and Grandpa was watching TV, by opening the back door and sprinting to the pool (which is why Caylee died of drowning). Casey ended her phonecall and within five minutes googled drowning resuscitation techniques followed by suicide methods, but she did so from Firefox, the browser the family regularly used, not IE, the browser the pill evidence came from. Grandpa feared Grandma would divorce him over the neglect, and buried Caylee where he buried the family's pets, with tape and materials found in the grandparents' house, and a few things that might have been impromptu grave goods. There's also a lot of ignored evidence like testimony that Casey was despondent most of the day Caylee went missing, and incidents of her friends finding her up in the middle of the night crying for hours and writing goodbye letters to Caylee on her phone. Or how it's often overlooked that she worked at a bar that has employees participate in "partying" as part of the place's appeal. But in the charade Grandpa and Grandma ended up on the side of the prosecution, Casey on the defense. This is why the prosecution failed despite the court system generally favoring prosecution and Casey already being a national pariah; they weren't able to make a case based in reality, because the truth was split between two completely different people on opposite sides of the trial. Casey probably made that up because she felt betrayed by her father, who should have gone down with her. They have a history as an entire family of avoiding problems; when Casey was pregnant they all put up a charade of pretending she wasn't. They're probably just weird, avoidant, irresponsible people moreso than coldhearted killers.
@Ana Dubar stop always saying someone’s parents is how they are. I doubt the grandfather did any of that. She only brings it up so she’s not found as the murderer of her daughter. She’s horrible it has nothing to do with her parents.
@Tova : I've read a few articles on the case, including Wikipedia, and almost none of that is mentioned. If you're being honest, your source is a Casey homer who's lying to you.
She didn’t look up drowning resuscitation. She looked up peaceful suffocation and her father was already at work when she looked it up so he could t have been there pulling Kaylee out of the pool. You failed
@MrShanester117 I know. I’m a victim of that. Well, not serious enough to grape molestation in court, but orange molestation is almost as bad as grape molestation… I’ll never be the same…
@Allan Couceiro me too. “Hey gorgeous” set off alarm bells then she says something about how awful she looks. Why care what you look like to your dad? Weird.
@Archie Snownose what? I’m having a hard time understanding how that set off any alarms. Why is it wrong for a father to call his daughter gorgeous? Tons of loving parents around the world have different little nicknames that they use to call their kids. Its just a sign of affection. The mother kept calling her “sweetheart”. “Gorgeous” is just another nickname. And her comment about her appearance is like the equivalent to saying “haha yeah right”. During the majority of the time that she is on camera, she displays a calm and relaxed manner. She laughs at the cops jokes and doesn’t to seem that bothered by her daughter’s disappearance. It doesn’t seem like she is uncomfortable with her dads presence.
@Allan Couceiro wdym by that? many father compliment their childrens appearences to make them feel happier. My father still calls me names like princess till this day because it made me feel happier and special. Some people may feel uncomfy with being called names like that but casey looks totally fine with her dad.
Even if it was a lie, which it still might not have been, did she really betray him? I think many parents would gladly be labelled a molester if it meant giving their child a higher chance of avoiding life (or whatever) in prison
We don’t know that but you also have to do what hey lawyer said, put your a emotions apart from the case or the situation. Just because he wore that t-shirt and he seems to be nice doesn’t mean he didn’t do it and I’m not saying that he did it…
@Archie Snownose There is absolutely nothing abnormal about a father referring to his daughter by a pronoun like “gorgeous”. I get that it’s being used in the shady context of a suspected murder here. But if something like that’s setting off alarm bells, I’d probably end up being “suspicious” of most of the parents I’ve ever met.
No one can say for sure whether it happened or not but I don’t know that I believe that happened I can more likely see emotional neglect dad was and ex cop probably not around a lot or emotionally distant once he got home (this is just speculation bc my grandpa was an ex sheriff) even though she’s an adult and now makes her own decisions he parents kinda had a role in how she is now
It's a tragedy that even with all tr he evidence, there wasn't justice served. Her lawyer saying she drowned in a swimming pool is so stupid because she was found with tape on her nose and mouth in a SWAMP a mile away from her house. Why he say swimming pool? And why did the jury overlook that very important fact?
I’m surprised they couldn’t charge her with negligence or obstruction of justice considering her new story was that she drowned in a pool and then lied to the authorities about it
@Adriann sorry to hear that as well. Child abuse or any traumatic event in formative years can have the most devastating consequences in later life. I don’t know if her father abused her but it would explain the blatant pathological lying and borderline personality. Something just happens to a child when they go through something like that. It scars them mentally and is extremely common trait with child abuse victims. However, the death of Caycee is extremely sad and in no way an excuse. I think she should have been guilty of something at the very least manslaughter.
@Blinkysaurus Rex Facts, we don't know about her father, and what he did or did not. She is s compulsive liar so it is most likely lie but we can't know for sure. I know just being called "gorgeous" by your own father is not alarming but I wanna say that even the ones that look the most lovingly parents could be abusive ones too. Because I was abused by my father for over 10years and he was the only person I used to trust, he was my best friend and I couldn't understand why he would hurt me. Then I realized he seemed to care about just to convince me to trust him... So we can't be sure of anything. Her father could also be just as manipulative as she is. Or not. We. Don't.Know.
@Adriann How come she did not bring up the abuse until it became a story that could save her skin, and Casey never claimed she was abused. Her lawyer claimed she was abused. The accusation never came from Casey's own lips
@Helen Stockman I agree there's no reason to believe it but also just saying is not true for sure, without any information is also something we can't do. It came out of nowhere so it's suspicious but we just don't have enough information, and most important of it all, I think it being true or false shouldn't have absolutely anything to do with the case. He wanted to paint her as a victim but we also know abused people many times becomes the abuser. It's stupid how no one looked it differently and didn't take it as an indication of her insanity.
And about she not talking about it before it, if you knew better you'd know that a lot of people stay quiet about it their entire life. But anyways, it just shouldn't be a decisive matter in this case. Being molested or not doesn't make her innocent or guilty. It could equally work both ways.
I can only echo what you said. This is a disgusting miscarriage of justice. She killed her child. She lied about her loving father in the most heinous way imaginablele. She treated her friend like crap. And she walked? There was no justice in that case.
@Allan Couceiro - I’ve always felt that something was very ‘off’ about the family, but couldn’t put my finger on it, but I do remember that it came out at the time that despite the Mom taking Herculean efforts to prevent Casey from ending her pregnancy as she was going to do, that seemed to be the first and last thing she advocated for that baby girl. If I personally had a daughter that I felt I had to drag kicking and screaming away from the Clinic (which I would never do!) but if I did, I would’ve taken the baby myself; which seems like partial guilt for the Mother who felt so strongly against her daughter’s decision to terminate (again, unnatural to me as I just wouldn’t force anyone) - even if I was a very selfish Mom who wanted a Grandkid at any cost, and then never interfered again? It doesn’t follow. I am aware that for some Mothers, the mere idea that you’re going to be a Grandmother is just about the biggest cherry you can top your life off with, but in the end, if you have any sense of being honest with yourself, the reason people get all excited about having Grandkids is because you finally get a kid you can enjoy playing around with and then send them home. All play without the work. In this case, Casey told her Mother she wasn’t ready yet, over and over. That’s the weird part, at least for me. The Mother seemed pretty much vacant to me.
@Allan Couceiro - yes. You would do almost anything to do that. It’s a really weird thing that just happens when you have a kid; this is why it’s so despicable
@Alex Vischer What tf..? Are you insane? I’m a parent of 15yr old daughter And If I found that she had a baby which she killed And then accuse ME for worst thing what human Can do, hell to the nah I fucking wouldn’t ”gladly” be a sex offender….So, again, what. a. Fuck. ???????
@Rollin' Stone I didn't say you would gladly be a sex offender. I said there are some people who would if it meant saving their daughter from a life in prison, and obviously, it depends on circumstances. I don't see how you can refute this. It has nothing to do with you, personally lol
The way she kept shaking her head "no" every time the prosecutor told the truth about her... It made me despise her. I wish the judge had told her to either stop it or get on the witness stand and testify. No silent "testimony" allowed.
the google search she did and the lies she planted, was an obvious case. I don't know what in the world made her not guilty. Just because the poor body rotted so much that it conclealed the truth.... Otherwise she would have been guilty long ago.... I don't admit this kind of justice...
Cassey made up a name and said she was Kaylee’s nanny . As a result the police tracked this South American woman down . And people thought she was guilty of harming Kaylee . She had never met Kaylee or Casey. Yet her life was made a living hell , all because of Cassey’s lies .
WOW, she takes "pathological liar" to a whole new level. Her parents enabled her. At 35:48, in the interrogation room, she talks and acts like she's doing a job interview.
They didn't have a concrete case. I feel she's guilty but if I were on that jury, I'd acquit. We can't just convict based on gut feelings here, we need beyond a reasonable doubt. The prosecution fucked this one up.
@Pee Bay "she was the only one with access to all the tools used for the murder" is a solid circumstantial evidence that would jail anyone anywhere in the world but Florida, the jury just got charmed by Mr Nice Words. The "drown" argument doesn't fit the search history, neither the ducktape on the child, neither her diary entry, neither her party days, so it makes no reasonable doubt.
@AKS I remember this case vividly growing up. They did not have enough evidence. The jury was not a fault here.
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Anna Tom2020-11-06 07:34:36 (edited 2020-11-06 07:35:56 )
@Shasta Snow But can't they alteast charge her for child negligence? I mean, she didn't call police when the child was missing for a month and repeatedly lied. I mean how freaking shameless is she to lie like that. She enjoyed toying with police.
@Anna Tom People in good conscience could not sentence Anthony to death based on the circumstantial evidence presented. Also, I guess you can blame the media for the passionate hatred directed toward Casey Anthony. They did a very good job of dramatizing her. Nancy Grace, whose news program is cited as having inflated the Anthony case into a national obsession. I remember watching her shows too. She was very convincing. Caylee has passed on far, far too soon and that was upsetting for me.
Anna Tom2020-11-08 15:10:37 (edited 2020-11-08 15:12:18 )
@Shasta Snow I know, the prosecutors kind of screwd up, I understand that, but can't they atleast charge her for 1 count of child negligence. Her kid was missing for a month, but she reported a month later. Isn't that child negligence?
@Anna Tom I'm no law major but I'm pretty sure they needed to bring her up on the right charges. Since those charges weren't in the original accusation then they can't go back and add them in. I think her leading them in circles and hindering the investigation was enough to arrest her. But they kinda let the cart get in front of the horse a little there. In the 2 weeks they had to build a case and indict her, they didn't focus on what hard evidence they had and use that to bring up the actual charges. I might be wayyy off here but I notice people get away with crazy things just because prosecutors don't word shit right.
@Anna Tom if you ever watch that show How to get away with murder it kind of gives you the perspective of the defense attorney. There is definitely no room for emotion or speculation in the courtroom. What seems like open and shut to everyday Americans is not as simple. I often wonder if something seems like solid evidence to the police and prosecutor but winds up getting misconceived by the jury and the impact lost in translation. But maybe if that particular jury had more educated members that case would've had a different outcome. I think these are the reasons I'm so fascinated with these cases.
She killed her daughter because she was JEALOUS of her daughter the way her parents loved her daughter she said what's so special about her referring to her daughter. I wouldn't let her go she admits to using chloroform on her daughter the mom is crying but Casey is all non chalant about it .she went clubbing couldn't remember where the babysitter lived but she knew her for 2 years
Shawn McManus. Your Common Sense is perfect. Apparently people such as yourself are becoming more and more rare, Because Common Sense people like yourself are becoming more and more rare. What happens when we no longer have people like yourself around? Because America is at it's worst in my personal opinion.
@Mido Alex Jury was a lot worse there. Literally after the trial they walked outside and did a press conference where it was clear they were eager to convict him. I'm not making that up or exaggerating. You can see it online. In this case, Casey got a really good attorney who knew how to play a really good ground game.
I think she did it but if put on that jury, I would acquit because there isn't any evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
@AKS i dont know why they never brought acquaintances as witneses. 2 of her "friends" said she used to give the child some kind of pills to make her slee. At the same interview the stated she used to take xanax and mix with alcohol. And there you can make your own conlusion. I assume it was a not regreted accident.
@Sonia R I dont agree with cazza's statement but the implication with using the term "white privilege" doesn't mean that every white person is afforded a certain result/outcome/standard of living, it means that on average, being white is more advantageous in most situations relative to being another races when whites are considered the majority in that region. He's saying that there's a disproportionate amount of minorities convicted when compared to their white counterparts (percentaged based/ not absolute numbers). Do you not remember O.J. Simpson's case being completed dressed in racial discrimination defenses by OJ's legal team? Like they steered the whole case into a police versus blacks narrative; definitely way different then an average case.
@AKS The prosecution also charged Casey with aggravated child abuse and manslaughter and the jury chose to find not guilty on those charges, too. So you can't really say she was overcharged, I think.
@Pee Bay so my daughter has been missing, i never said anything about it. I party, i lie to the police and create fake people that dont exist. My car smells like a corpse, and im the last person that saw my dughter and thats not enough? Might aswell just film me doing it cause otherwise no proof will ever be enough.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
@EmaI mean, O.J got acquitted too though.....Sometimes it just depends what judge and jury you get, how good your lawyer is, as well as what state you are in. Trust me, here in the UK lots of white people got jailed for doing next to nothing, compared to others like murderers, and even with no proof of them being guilty. It is just dumb luck most of the time. A white woman here in the UK got jailed for leaving her kid home alone as she popped out to the shops. Yet you get murderers getting away with, well, murder lol. All to do with how much evidence there is, most of the time. Yes there is racism, but there is not only racism, there's even prejudice, about which country you or your family originate from. When my father was 8 yrs old he came over from Italy to London with his parents, and the amount of abuse, name calling and fights he had to endure at school was incredible. Even some teachers were nasty. They wanted my dad to "go back to his spaghetti/ravioli Wop country." My dad's best friend was a Jamaican boy called Francis. They were best friends and always stuck together too because they always got picked on. Thank god my dad and Francis were strong fighters lol. At times, especially when there is the Football World Cup every 4 years, here in the UK, we still get people hating on us when Italy play, saying awful things, just because of a football tournament. I remember having to endure that at school and at work. An Italian journalist in the UK had to write an article about that, circa 18 yrs ago. Because she too had had enough. It has lessened a bit now thank god. I think we will never totally get rid of racism and people being prejudice. It is not only about white privilege. It's about nationality too. (And even being a male at work has more privileges than being a female, though this is improving.) I do think in the US, depending on which state, racism is a hell of a lot more worse than say, the UK. I do believe that. It hasn't improved much unfortunately. But hopefully it will get better. Fingers crossed. Yes there is white privilege but the severity also depends on what state you are in and what jury and judge you get. That has alot to do with it.
@Sonia R Exactly. It can be different in different environments but it's good to acknowledge what advs and disadvantages you have as to not incorrectly compare your results to others.
@R P I didnt say anything about it being good or bad, you blamed the whole jury. Im saying it's not the whole jury's fault
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them bones2021-05-27 07:09:57 (edited 2021-05-27 11:32:18 )
The defense attorney made a perfectly reasonable claim in his closing statement, whatever else you may think of him. The burden of proof was on the prosecution and they had to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Casey had murdered her child, but there was no hard evidence of that in the slightest. Just things such as testimony (the foul odor in the car) or the lies and the fact that she didn't report her child as missing for a whole month, which might only prove that she didn't care about her, but not that she killed her. Personally, all of those elements are enough to make me think she's a cold-blooded killer. But it's a different matter when you have the responsibility of being a juror. I would've had to acquit her, too. It's the prosecution that fucked this case up, not the jury.
@Anna Tom even if they did..she spent OVER 2 years in jail leading up to the trial..I do believe she was charged with something due to this case but she walked out with "time served "
@Pee Bay dude her story doesnt make any sense. If caylee downed in a pool why did she duct tape her face? She admits all the bullshit about the nanny was lies.
I live in Florida, & nearly the Same exact thing happened to my only Son when he was just 3 years old, on new Years Eve 2017/2018, while he was left alone with his Mother, & Grandmother. He was found in a Canal, behind the Apartment Complex, where no Cameras or lights were located. It happened on the Loudest night of the year, just after the sun had gone down. When discovered by Coral springs Police Department, he had a Large Visible Red Mark on the back of his Neck, that was NEVER explained. His Mother lived on the Second Level, exterior wall, up against the canal, that surrounded the entire Structure on three sides, & the fourth was up against a road. At three years Old, my Son could NOT Negotiate the staircase on his own, in one Direction, OR the other, without me helping him, as is normal for any three year old, on a dangerous concreate staircase. It must have been almost twenty steps. So the spin that CSPD believed from Allison was, that while she was napping after a Big Day out, & that her infallible 62 year old Mother, whom had a serious AXE to grind with me, was supposed to be watching my Son, Jack. Whom they said, pushed a footlocker that weighed twice as much as him, across the carpeted Living room floor, of their 800 Square foot apartment, to the front door. Then unlocked the Dead bolt the was near the top of the Door frame (I have Photos) then opened the door, that normally flew open, & was on a chain to keep from ripping free, due to the wind coming off of the Canal, & let himself outside. Then closed the door behind his three year old little self. While no one heard, or saw anything. Allegedly Allison had woken up, & couldn't find Jack in the tiny little apartment (ROLLING EYES). So she then asked her all knowing, wise, Oracle of Delphi Mother, Debora. Where is Jack? to which she (lied) had no answer. It was 6:38, December 31, 2017. My phone Rang, & it said Allison. she has been ignoring my Calls to come see, & pick up my child for 90 days at least by this point. I answered the Phone, & the Verbatim that came out of my mouth is as Follows " Allison, you had better tell me my child is Fucking Alive, & Breathing" all I heard was indiscernible screaming. I repeated myself. I then heard her state in plain English (Please tell my Husband what happened to his child) I proceeded to loose my shit. The CSPD had alerted Hollywood PD to my location, & they shortly their after surrounded my house. The CSPD Closed the case inside of 16 Hours. They NEVER filed any charges against the both of them, & took pity on them both because of their blubbering. Additionally they both were MORE than easy on the eyes. I was Spitting Venom, to the CSPD, on on every Social media Site I was a part of. The Lead SVU Det. from CSPD called me, & said " so I hear you're going around online, telling everyone that Allison is a baby killer?" to which my response was "where did you read that?" She then said 'I personally haven't read anything, this is just what I'm told" We had a VERY colorful conversation, that I will not bore you with the Details of because I think at this point you are starting to see a Manifest Observable Trend of Behavior. The LEAD SVU DET. called me no less than FIVE more time, Both attempting to Threaten, & broker with me. I don't think she was expecting, or was ready for what she heard next.
Allison then Motioned for a Restraining order to which Michael G. Kaplan, of the 17th Circuit Vigorously issued, with glee I might add. Additionally the Hearing was Dually used to make public statements to Banish any Notion put Forward By Myself, about the lack of effort on the part of the CSPD to bring charges against the mother of my only Son, & to fortify the concept of the mental health of Allison's Mother, whom DID have a history of Mental health issues, & suicidal ideations. (It was a Ludacris cross between a dog, & pony show, & the dismemberment of William the Wallace) Then they went on to suggest that at just Three years old, too young to make such a determinization, as stated by the DSM, that he was somehow limited, & that's how he houdinied himself into the position he was "FOUND" in. The 17th Circuit treated me like a criminal. They then Gave Allison her two year restraining order, took my Firearms, to which I resisted greatly for a years time, Until they Jailed me, with no hope of release, until I willingly surrendered my Property in a Most Perverse of Circumstances. I couldn't help but observe that they took large sadistic measure of Pleasure out of that, & relished in it, Disarming a Disabled Veteran, who's son just Died in an EXTREAMLY suspicious fashion, while NOT charging the Party RESPONSIBLE for his Well being at the time of his Death. I mean, could you find a MORE Luciferin practice?
By the Time our Divorce paperwork had gone though, NOT a YEAR later, she was Living on the other side of the Continent, already 9 Months Pregnant, with someone else's child, who was still active duty. Her second string choice that she knew from NAVY "A" school, that she never took seriously, while we both were Enlisted (Another Story). "JAMES" was trying to "Romance the stone" the entire time we were trying to repair our Marriage, whom her mother was endlessly trying to Broker, & interject herself in. (Narcissistic Mother Disorder).
Ladies, & Gentlemen of the Jury, I hear put forth the Obvious Notion that my Only Son was Murdered to eliminate a Liability, & to sever ties with a Husband whom did not meet the Approval of the Mother In Law. I will let you Draw the conclusion of whom most likely did the unthinkable.
This is why I don't understand why you use jurys, they are, by the fact that they are less educated in how the justice system works, more likely to succumb to their feelings and look past evidence.
This is even a tactic atturneys use, play on emotions, sence all science points towards ppl basing their decisions based on feelings rather than logic.
Heck, that's even why bug bussiness put incredible amounts of money towards behaviour psychologi sence it can increase their sales by A LOT.
@Pee Bay if you feel she is guilty why would you acquit, you do not leave your common sense at the door it has nothing to do with gut feelings when a girl was ducktaped in a pool and lied about for months. Floridians deserve themselves
They do think Casey is guilty. But this doesn’t mean they can convict her due to the lack of evidence. It was only inquiry that was provided. It is pretty clear that she murdered her 3 year old innocent daughter. This is probably another example of women getting the benefit of the doubt when charged for a crime 😑
@Julia D That doesn't explain how and when her daughter died. I think Casey Anthony is as loathsome of an individual as anyone else, but trying to prove she premeditated homicide doesn't really work if you aren't even sure how and when the kid died. I never said I thought she was innocent. I certainly don't. But there are certain criteria that has to be met to get a conviction of a serious crime like first or second degree murder that were not met in this case. It's the fault of the prosecution, not the jury, who has no part in choosing what charges are filed.
@Nyoha No one cares. :] The laughable thing is the ones justifying the jury's decision are ALSO admitting the prosecution "fucked up", and that they too believe Casey was a murderer. With this knowledge and standpoint, to say one would acquit or that she should've been acquitted on 'principle' is quite scary. Innocent people go down for less.
@Pee Bay See? lmfao the same story. 1. "I don't believe Casey" 2. The prosection fucked up - basically: "She's a killer, but I would acquit this callous murderer, NOT because I believe she's innocent, but because the prosecution fucked up." Lol, homo sapiens are funny af
@Blaze Light wth is wrong with you- if you don’t want the responsibility of a child, DON’T HAVE A CHILD?! You can’t just off someone because they’ve become inconvenient???
@Christina dude, south africa was colonized for over 300 years and the white population (i feel like i should be clear here, the *colonizers*), though they are a minority demographics wise, are still extremely prejudiced against the black natives who lived there originally. segregation was enforced and the government made people register their race so they could legally discriminate and that was in affect until the 90s. and south african prisons are notoriously brutal and traumatic for prisoners no matter their skin tone. so i’m really not sure what you meant by either of these statements but i think i can glean enough by your referring to prison rape as “disneyland for blacks” and the simple fact of you using the term “blacks” that you’re just racist and don’t know what google is
@Pee Bay Well I hope I’m not on trial with you on my jury. I’d be very frightened you would be swayed by a smooth-talking, wiley lawyer and find me guilty when I was clearly innocent.
@AKS Well, I hope you’re never called for jury duty if you can’t see that there is clear evidence of guilt here. Jury system for that very reason is past its use-by date. Stupid, can’t evaluate and digest complicated information so is able to be swayed by a wiley and smooth-talking lawyer.
@Shasta Snow Well, I hope you’re never called for jury duty if you can’t see clear guilt in this case. Short of having an actual photo of Casey putting tape on the poor little girls mouth and nose (how she suffered while suffocating!) the evidence was overwhelming.
@Blaze Light Wot? Drowned? What did she do with the ‘drowned’ body which, btw, was found wrapped up with suffocating tape on mouth and nose in a swamp? What about her internet searches? You’re really not worth arguing about when it was so obvious.
@barbara seymour Evidence of guilt of what? Certainly not first-degree murder. Disliking someone and feeling like they did something wrong is not equivalent to meeting criteria beyond a reasonable doubt of first-degree murder.
@Pee Bay journal entries, internet history, duct tape on the body (proving it was homicide and not accident) i'd call that concrete... people have been convicted for far less.
@cazza Row Oh shut up... Let's not make it a race thing... Other commenters have already said that as a mere observer, they would say , "Yes she is guilty ," But as a juror, there is a lot more than just saying, "I feel like she did it, so she did it." You have to look at the evidence critically and decide whether or not there was enough to say if she was guilty or not guilty.
And if you want a non-white example, look at the case of OJ Simpson, a man who was accused of stabbing his wife and her friend to death. But was acquitted due to the leather gloves he wore during the crime no longer fitting him due to them being soaked. That's where the infamous line, "If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit," comes from.
Her acquittal has nothing to do with her being white.
@Isaac CastroWhy! Having a child in the first place if you're wild and crazy and want to party every single day and night! Yup! They sure did SORRY 😞 for her lying and making not even worried about her daughter's death! She is the killer herself but they didn't make any progress in her case! Why would you act and not care about what happened or what you did! She's not even crazy 😜! She knows what she did but getting herself in a crazy mood so she can be fully prepared for the rest of her life beyond the death of her daughter's passed by lying with herself! Everything she said or she did with her parents, friends and the prosecutors was nothing more than just a story that written about how you can express your feelings and how you take care of your child and make them look like you have any reaction to your own decisions! Who was the father of that child that she murdered? Where was the daddy when his daughter died? Does the father knows that a lady with no soul has his child? Very messed up! It's neglected and child abused! Sad 😥!
@LP.Skates Are you preferring to America 🇺🇸? But in this situation like this, is not just one area! It's every part and every where in the world 🌎! Some people do get away with crime they committed 💯percent of the time! Even if it's a very high crime! They walk away and no justice for the victims! In some area government officials, police, detective and attorney don't even want to deal with it! They don't overlooked this whole incident and just let it happened! It just like who cares statement! So it's best to stay out of trouble and take care of ourselves! If we get into something like this! We might get the worst and send us to a thousand years even if it wasn't that bad! What Casey Anthony did was very a high crime and she walks! She killed her baby daughter and didn't care! She should've sentence to death or life in prison but they baby her over her daughter's death with all the lies and let her walk! What a shame on the authorities!🥵
I have a daughter. She’s 1. I already don’t let her get away with stuff lol. How these parents let their grown ass daughter lie to them about killing their granddaughter and say they love her and believe in her is beyond me.
This is undoubtedly the saddest video I’ve seen from you. Still crying about it days later. Can’t believe she went free and that little girl was robbed of her life. I have no words
She’s cold blooded! “Well it’s not my fault I’m in here” Absolute monster. She’s out now partying. Her first conversation with family is so telling. She wants to talk to her boyfriend…. I Love the response by family. “Does Tony have anything to do with Caylee? No. “Then why do want to speak to home?”
@SubFornt She didnt said: I smell a dead body in the car", she said "IT smells like a dead body in the car". The Dude who replied first is 100% right. You need to listen more carefully. My stepdad is an Excop too and he can see that most of you would fail any test to become a cop cause you dont judge by Facts, but by what you expect to hear instead.
@Steve Anderson i’m listening to the part where she says the car smells like a dead body right now. Imagine being that smug, without checking if you’re right.
@Steve Anderson uhhh YOU Mr Anderson need to listen more carefully......Yeah she did...JCS mentioned that about the father remembering the smell and being an ex cop... Cindy Anthony to Dispatch: "And it smells like there's been a dead boy in the damn car".
if you search and watch the interviews w the parents, her mother doesn't believe she killed her daughter - or at least not on purpose. her father is a different story.. he thinks she did kill her.
@Life.with.too.many.animals I think , it's good that he didn't. Arrogance needs to be preserved to school us all. we can allways learn from the stupid shit we wrote on the internet. there are no white jackets in the ytube comment section.
@Steve Anderson no you're not understanding, he's saying the mother mentioned it to the police because she thought her daughter may have done something, why else would she tell them or the dad connect those thoughts, she totally knew
@K M Yeah in all accounts of everybody I knew that is/was a war veteran. They say when you smell it you never forget it. Wouldn't surprise me if they had walked by a car with a decomposing body in it and could immediately tell that it smells like death. I have smelled it only with animals and yes the decomposition of a body has it's own niche smell of foulness, it's not the same as rotting meat from expired meat you buy. It is the whole body rotting away. Not an average bad smell to say the least...
I was actually surprised by how on top of it her mother seems to be throughout the video. Her parents were obviously delusional throughout her life, but in these tapes her mother is carefully working her because she knows she has more info.
Right. They're not responsible for the murder, obviously, but they're absolutely responsible for enabling and fostering horrible behavior with no consequence.
While she may have said it smell like a dead body, I doubt her first thought was that her daughter killed her granddaughter. This is her own daughter for fucks sake. What sort of sane human would immediately suspect their own child of something as horrible as that when they’re praying and hoping for the best. I feel terrible for the grandparents. Imagine the pain they’re going through, having to accept their own child, the girl they put so much blood, sweat and tears raising with so much love, killed the granddaughter they dearly treasured. They aren’t the only ones I feel sorry for. I can’t imagine what everyone else who cared about Casey and cared about Cailey are going through. All of that guilt and so many conflicted feelings. Just thinking about it makes me queasy.
The father knew. As a cop, he would have known that smell instantly when that trunk was opened. I think she was repeating what he had said when it was opened.
She’s honest about her own personal life and writes about her happiness While her daughter is supposedly missing she’s clam cool and collective No tears no grief whatsoever her parents has to have known that none of this is going to turn out positive for their grandchild nor their daughter My heart aches for them this has to be a horrible horrific situation for any loving caring parents to have had to if gone through and live it I pray for the family to heal and be able too move forward this is all very heartbreaking no matter how you look at feelings about it who u believe Or don’t believe the truth comes out And the parents see it as clearly as the law sees it Very heartbreaking for all of them This poor child is gone Maybe the good lord knew more than anyone either way l wish the parents to have the strength to carry on Very sad 😞
Kudos to these detectives for being so patient and restrained. I could not bear to hear her laugh and be so laid back while knowing that her daughter is likely dead because of her. I couldn't stand to look at her and wouldn't want to hear any of it.
I was like... 13? At the time this happened. And I was STUNNED even then that she literally got away with murder. Like... Yes. The facts against her were a bit loose and could have been tied together better, but literally ever person I've ever spoken to about this says she did it. I took a forensic psych corse in college and the professor was one of those people that came in as an expert for this type of stuff and he even said in class he was pretty sure she did it. Like... come on!
@Oliver If that's the case shouldn't she be put under trial again? Murder case doesn't have a statute of limitation so why she is not being prosecuted again?
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@Afiq Putra ever heard of double jeopardy ? They tried her and a verdict was reached . They cant retry her fir the same crime again. If the case was weak they should have dropped they case because then they could always bring it up later if new evidence develops but since the trial proceeded and a verdict was reached that case is closed. Sadly , she could blurt out to the world now that she did it and they cant touch her for murder. Same thing with oj Simpson. If he admitted to killing his wife and her boyfriend now , they cant do anything to him for the murders. But.......... if the feds can determine they violated some kind of federal law in commission of the crime the feds might could try them fir the murders
@Oliver I remember hearing about it at the time. Caylee was about the age of my youngest child (at the time) and.I kept up with Court TV coverage on the case. Nancy Grace was all over it.
@Michael Warrell what's your occupation? I'm curious what kind of lie you'll come up to impress the strangers in the youtube comment section. Got a bet going with a few friends.
@JF Sebastian it shouldn't be illegal either, you're not required to confess guilt and even if you tell your attorney where you hid the body and how you planned it that's protected via AC privilege
@Danny Buck this was months ago and I don't even know what your talking about accusing me of lies. Move on and find something more recent to talk about
I'm glad the jury found her not guilty.... Do I think she did it? Yes. Do I KNOW she did it? No. That is why the burden of proof is our standard. "better a thousand guilty men go free, than one innocent man is punished"
@Afiq Putra Double Jeopardy is typically a very GOOD thing to have. It's not a failure of the system. It's a failure of the jurors and the jurors alone.
@Michael Warrell It's funny how you want to correct someone when you're the one who can't read then after being called out by another person politely, your reply is pathetic ad hominem.
@Señor Reaction Yes, exactly; she got her information on how to do it and left the house right after. Also the chance she could've just googled it on her phone while out.
I'd give her life in prison if I had the choice because she's guilty for sure😂😂don't even try defending her.
@Daniel's Elated Octopus so her child coincidently died from suffocation on the day she searched up "foolproof suffocation"🥶 how can you even defend her?
@Thomas yes it def means she is extremely disturbed. However, if everyone whom is a bit unhinged & searches topics deemed 'taboo' by society should be punished then there society would surely collapse
@Vector she calls her zanny the nanny, zanny is another term for Xanax and that’s why ppl think in her own messed up way she was being half honest. They think she was using Xanax in place of her having to get a nanny so she could go out an party while the kid was zonked out. Xanax causes breathing problems and Casey might’ve given it to cailey before she chose to suffocate her because there would’ve been less of a struggle. Makes sense to me
My mom tried to shield me from consequences, holding me up higher than everyone else when I didn't deserve it. I was fortunate enough to at least recognize that my mom, while she meant well and I love her dearly, was not doing me any favors. I had done some bad things growing up and as a legal adult and you can only find true happiness and freedom when you are honest - not just with everyone else, but yourself, about all of your flaws and mistakes. Imagine how many people get away with what Casey Anthony didn't, or people who murder their spouse. We only hear about the ones who get caught and it's scary to think about how many psychos are out there right now doing whatever to the person who has committed to spending the rest of their life with them. Fack.
Makes you wonder how defense lawyers can look themselves in the mirror at the end of the day. She and her defense team knew she murdered her child. Great lawyer with zero morality or soul, just an absolutely tragedy for a murdered little girl not just robbed of life but of any form of justice.
She went out partying... THREE DAYS AFTER HER DAUGHTER WENT MISSING... there’s too much evidence against her and I can’t believe she was rewarded a free life
Because the American legal system is a joke. People get put away for years because of drugs but sometimes murderers get away with no charges or a slap on the wrist.
@twistedyogert Don't worry man... it's like that almost everywhere around the world! Some places even worse! Not that one should put up with it, but it's universal.
@Bill Geo It's sad though, putting non-violent drug offenders in prison and charging them with felonies seems wrong. After doing their time they end up without a job because no one wants to hire a convicted felon. They can't vote or own a gun. They can't have custody of their kids. I'm not for legalizing all drugs (marijuana is ok), because I believe that people addicted to drugs are sick and need help (I watched my dad destroy himself with alcohol, it turned him into a monster). As far as punishment for drug offenses, the offender should be fined as long as their addiction resulted in no deaths. The money could go towards their rehab treatments.
@Cringe Captor Shrekura one rich black man's case that happened in the black man's favour out of the thousands where the black man has been given the harshest possible sentence. Be honest here. As much as we respect the good men who work honestly in the authoritative work forces, the thing as a whole is institutionalised racism at it's core.
@Cringe Captor Shrekura yes I agree. Money comes first and is taken precedent over all other things. But my point still stands that GENERALLY in society, there are unfair treatments based on colour, religious beliefs and gender. We all know if a black Muslim man kills another fully grown man he would get a harsher sentence than a white athiest woman who murders 2 of her own children. We've all seen these things happen and seen the huge disparity in punishments. Let's not kid ourselves here right?
@Matt G first of all don't assume I'm anti white or one of the extreme left or BLM folks. it suites your narrative to throw me into that category and make such claims. Just because I'm mentioning racism on minorities doesn't mean I'm anti white or think white people are evil. That's just stupid shaming language similar to the 2nd and 3rd wave feminists who use that to get out of an argument so show some class. I'm against racism for all and I'll be the first to tell people who are over reacting and going to the other extreme, projecting their hate towards whites. At the moment the victims of most racism are minorities and the fact that white people suffer a bit of light racism, which is still wrong and stupid, they act like such victims. Try being shot because your white, try being the face of crime and have everyone double check your every move when you are doing simple things as shopping. Don't be so weak when you get a slight taste of racism back, which btw is only a backlash of long-term societal racism towards minorities. Just like feminists, you assume I'm anti white for speaking for black people like they would assume I'm hating women for speaking out about men's rights being abused. You gave me a case about some #metoo movement and of course the woman's word is going to be taken true over a man's that is the problem with today's gynocentric society. It is heavily biased against men and treat every woman as a victim even when they are caught doing some evil and dark crimes. When it comes to the corrupted laws gender comes first then race so your case doesn't sway my opinion at all as I know more cases than you know about female minorities abusing men including white men and getting away scotch free. So lower your tone, don't make wrong assumptions up on your high horse and don't respond like a triggered Karen spewing out pointless thoughtlacking arguments.
"there’s too much evidence against her" There is too much evidence that she was involved in the death of her daughter - not that she murdered her daughter with premeditation and this is what there has to be for a conviction on a 1st degree murder charge. She walked away free because of the vindictiveness and stupidity of the prosecution team.They gave the jury a choice between 1st degree murder and execution or freedom. They couldn't prove 1st degree murder so the jury had no choice but to give Anthony her freedom. If they had charged her with voluntary manslaughter she would have been convicted and gone to jail for 15 years.
@Albatboss E Of course not, but it should have been taken into consideration, at the very least, as suspicious behaviour. It's hardly the psychological response of a frightened and grieving mother, is it?
Has nothing to do with trump she is an incredibly skilled lier and manipulator. She was two steps ahead of every interrogator and person who questioned her. She missed her calling she could’ve been a great lawyer.
I doubt her life after this case was pleasant. While she may not be in prison, she was no doubt the most hated person in america during that time. If she really has ice water in her veins and can take constant harassment every single day for the rest of her life, well i guess she wins then.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
@twistedyogert Many legal systems are extremely flawed unfortunately, take a look at Japan's conviction rate, it's extremely high and I doubt that's just because every single one of them is guilty. The legal system in a lot of places definitely need to be fixed, unfortunately, I don't see it happening anytime soon.
Going out 3 days after ur child has gone missing isn’t a guilty plea. Imagine the babysitter agreed to hold on to the daughter until the mom feels better. The mom has lost her temper and is thinking about giving up her daughter for adoption. So she’s very happy when the babysitter doesn’t call back for a week. Now casey’s attitude has changed. She’s the happiest she’s been. She’s thinking the babysitter is going to ask if she can adopt the kid. When she doesn’t hear back from the babysitter she’s not in a hurry to go looking for her. I’m not saying this is what happened but it’s why u can’t just lock casey away without harder evidence.
@twistedyogert only in florida. If this was any where else she would be in prison for murder. Theres been lots of cases like this in florida that let obviously guilty people walk free
@twistedyogert Lmao dude people can get away with felony murder with 5 years in other parts of the world. Please keep telling us how we’re just the worst though 😂
@Albatboss E how about lying that she met Zanny through some guy that she hadn't spoken to in years and his son that didn't exist? How about making up a person who looked after her daughter? She How about lying about a job? How about a tattoo whilst her daughter was "missing" saying "Life Is Good"? How about lying about a job she didn't have and hadn't worked in for years? How about making up people that didn't exist? How about walking around a building that you don't work in WITH police officers? How about never being concerned or upset that her daughter was missing? How about not calling the police or even her parents immediately? This was all whilst being interviewed to help find her daughter. What kind of parent would do that? You'd want to tell the truth so they'd find her. Any normal mother would be absolutely frantic and straight on the phone to the police EXACTLY like Caseys mother did when she finally saw her daughter and found this out. Casey is murdering scum!!!
Yup, its ridiculous, she screams red flags, the only reason i can think of why she was released is they didn't have enough physical/concrete evidence that the mother killed her daughter, unfortunately a bad feeling isn't enough...
@twistedyogert i really appreciate your comment. I agree with every word. As someone who loves a recovering addict it makes me so mad that real criminals walk while people with a problem are punished instead of helped by this ridiculous sys
For everyone that is angry she got away free. I am too. But remember that no one can run from judgment from GOD. she can run. But she can't hide forever....
@Rob Oc following God isn't religious. FYI God created Adam and Eve. God didn't create religion. People did. There is only one God. Where do you think we came from? The universe? Big bang? 😁😆people tend to misunderstand. God is real, that's why The Living God. You don't have a soul? What about people who are filled with holy Spirit that prophesy? These prophecies are real, whether it hears bad or good. What do you think it's happening to our world rn? It's written in revelation and there is no book that comes as accurate as Bible. Read revelation, and see what is happening to our world. Bro I want you to be saved. And I want to be saved too. Try reading Bible, it doesn't hurt 👍.
@Tohuto You actually believe in Adam and eve? Holy hell 🙈😂 I have read the bible, but just like Santa Claus, I grew out of it. Maybe Dawkins was right about Americans having an above room temperature IQ
@Rob Oc I'm not American. I'm indian. And I know God exist because of the holy Spirit working in people. Holy Spirit alone is proof. God gave us all a gift and that is the holy Spirit. ❤ people don't even try praying but they must do it whole heartily. Just simple closing eyes and mumbling words won't do. We must pray with our full, in mind, body and spirit. God is a spirit. So we must be spiritual in a good way. God is a clean, holy God. Well it's up to you finding the truth.
@Tohuto An indian Christian? That's disappointing. I thought higher of India tbh. I've found the truth mate. It's called rational and reasonable thinking. Something the bible lacks. Along with the Quran and every other holy book (which is man made so how can it be holy?) To believe the bible you have to cherry pick your stories. Which is what every follower does. Funny how the old testament version of the god is rarely mentioned anymore.
@Rob Oc nope. Where you're from doesn't matter a bit. God only wants your full heart, that's it. Doesn't matter if I'm blck, white, brown or whatsoever. Holy Spirit is real. Try praying. It doesn't hurt.
@Rob Oc Bible is widely misinterpreted. You just read a line or a verse and viola you just think it's that. Many has backstories. Good theories. The incidents all have their stories, which can be explained.
@Rob Oc these are not God's people. I can say. Like many Christian leaders or catholic leaders. They just dress nice, pretend to be holy. But they will be met with severe punishment. Pope or not I don't care. I don't worship man. I worship God. Idk but if he acknowledged evolution, he is not a true Christian, I can say that. This type of people, is written in the Bible. Wolfs in sheep clothing 🤷♀. Like I said many pastors nowadays mislead people for money, these are the people who will be most punished. So if you don't believe God. I have no more to say. But only one thing, after we all die, we will know. ❤Jesus is coming soon, morning or night or noon. Many will meet their doom. Righteous meet in the skies.
@Tohuto All of them? It's convenient that the bad priest's aren't men of god but the good ones are. There is no punishment from the big man in the sky. He ain't real. Funny how you say "after we die, we'll know" implying that you don't know now...weird 🙈😂
@Rob Oc I'm saying some use Bible and act as pastors or healers or prophets. There are so many out there. Duping ignorant people for money. Apart from monthly tithes if you're a member. I've experienced the holy Spirit. And seen evil too, from my own two eyes. I had a death experience, went to a prayer center. I was sleeping and during night I just woke up feeling uncomfortable and a face( with no body, it was skinless, black like that of mummy) coming out from my face and it went away)lifted up my body halfway out of the bed. After that two person figure came and that too black. Came and just stared at me, I was helpless. But i called the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. It disappeared. That morning after service i went up to Our Reverend and prayed for me. Told me it was bad spirits. About the holy Spirit while I was a about 13 to 14 . I prayed that night with my mom. Prayed for so long. That night I woke up again to see bright clouds appearing, there was two human. Make and female who were of old age clothes In fine white dresses. Then I woke up. Remember I wasn't under any alcohol or drug influence. You see our Adversary don't want us to be saved. So those who don't believe, he keeps them at bay. But for people fighting to know the truth, to be closer to God. The adversary attacks in dreams, gives us nightmares. Setting traps for you and me. To let us cause sin. If that doesn't get you thinking. I don't know, what can. So good luck. God bless you.
How is it possible she was not convinced for this atrocious crime is beyond me. The only thing I can think of is she somehow sold her soul to get out of this. She is a Dark hearted liar and obviously she killed her child And she walks free among us.
This is exactly the flaw with jury trials. It becomes more about convincing a group of people with no expertise in the matter than actually getting to the truth. I’m glad I live in a country that doesn’t rely on them so heavily.
Saying anything about her "traumatizing past" doesn't justify how she hid from everyone that the kid was dead. "I found my daughter dead, but I cannot show others my weak side so I'll just duct tape the dead body's nose and mouth, and having it for a while in my truck. Oh, forgot I better get rid of it, I'll just throw it in the swamp." Yeah sure, totally reasonable... I don't know much about law and justice but someone who normally lived her life while hiding a dead body- being her the murderer or not- is certainly insane. She deserved some punishment, and they needed to do more research on this case.
her falsely accusing her father of molesting her is disgusting. her murdering her daughter in cold blood is disgusting. her walking FREE? downright disgraceful. this justice system is so flawed. i hope she gets what’s coming to her.
I understand that lawyers are needed to defend anyone that is brought in front of a judge, but in this case they actively helped her to invent a story that would affect her parents and even drove her dad to a suicide attempt. I imagine a special place in hell for everyone involved in that, hopefully such a place exists.
@P1nkR exactly it should be illegal for a defence attorney to willingly cover up a murder I'm not saying people shouldn't be defended but the way this was done i don't know how he sleeps at night to help this evil woman get away with murdering her daughter with no remorse and destroy Her dad's life in the process!!!
@Levi Mogford because Casey has lied about everything. and look at the video visit with her parents in the video. she’s not distant or afraid of him. she even calls him the best grandfather for Caylee. would you call your abuser the best grandparent for your child? No. Casey cannot help but lie.
One bad case is not evidence. Anecdotes are just anecdotes. The justice system comes through for people far more than it doesn’t, and I defy you to find one thats works much better.
@Meropticon _ the prosecution completely fucked up this case just like the prosecution did with Trayvon Martin. why would they go for first degree murder when they have no cause of death or any proof beyond circumstantial that Casey killed her daughter?
now, you’re right, women do get lighter sentences but Casey was really considered and imo still is the most hated woman in America. I don’t think anyone was going easy on her.
Fully agree. And even if not made up, how come you can just throw something like that in the air and not having it followed up by the police? Her dad just walks free being a pedophile and no proof is brought to actually back up this statement? Imagine the prosecution saying “she killed her daughter and we know this because 10 years ago she killed a bird”, for example, and the jury would be like “oh right, so she kills animals and people - guilty”. Isn’t it the same thing? An allegation that has no proof being used as argument? I’m just so confused by this.
@Albert Jordan I'm not questioning that, or saying that she did it because only she knows that. But that she is innocent is a lie, and there was enough evidence to see that. Her child died and was buried in the woods while she was aware of this, after covering up for it and misleading the authorities. I don't know law but I'm pretty sure that measures up to something. This woman should not have walked out free. That's just my perspective.
The evidence was circumstantial, at best. Do I think she killed the kid? More than likely. Did the prosecution come anywhere close to presenting enough evidence to prove she did the murder, beyond a reasonable doubt? FUCK NO! Not even close.
It was more than likely her defense attorney that came up with the whole molestation idea because they know that a jury will eat that kind of stuff up. The guy is despicable but he's good at what he does so I'm sure it was his idea.
In order to ensure that human rights do not get slowly stripped away from us we have to provide them to everyone. While the justice system is not perfect it is certainly better than most places in the world. Our system was made with the goal that an innocent person never get locked for something they did not do, not always imprisoning the person who did it. Unfortunately a focus on protecting the innocent means some people get free. Though, I do not understand how it missed this time.
@vicky wen class A liar. She cried at the first jail meeting when talking to her dad. The pain she felt was from her parents, so why would she feel sadness looking at her father if he didn't care about his child?
If anything this case is proof that our judicial system works as it should and not everyone is so tempted by their emotions. Sure, she certainly gives off the air of being a shitty person, but being a shitty person isn't enough to convict someone of a crime without any evidence. There would be a lot more innocent people behind bars if that were the case.
@Z Romo It definitely isn't. That still goes on her permanent record. She won't be able to get a good job or have a decent place to stay for the rest of her life. Not to mention that she alienated all her friends and family, and the viral nature of the case means that people will recognize her. She may not have been sentenced for murder but her life is effectively ruined.
The prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
@P1nkR they created doubt in the mind of the jury he did his job, no more, no less. They were paid to do a job and they did their best. By defending the rights of one person, no matter how bad, they are defending the rights of everyone. The monsters are not the lawyers. Casey is the monster.
well she lives in florida and you can find her address. if anyone in the comment section gets too sad to keep going…she’s learning to be a private investigator and you know she won’t be working with scrupulous people. she’ll be using her manipulative capacity to gain access to places and things that help out all sorts of fucked up people
@HitlerActually Her complete joy at not having the child around. Her entry in the diary practically confessing to it, and not mentioning the disappearance or death of the child at all. Her constant lies about the whereabouts of the child. The fact that not a single other member of her family credited the absurd and indeed evil child abuse story (why was it never followed up by ANYONE, if true?). The fact that Anthony searched for methods of suffocation on the actual day of suffocation. The fact that the child was hidden BY ANTHONY in a bag in a swamp nearby. The fact that the body was found with duct tape over its mouth and nose... and so much more besides, but these... how do these come "not even close" to evidence that she did the murder? You even admit that it WAS a murder, contrary to her obvious lies about accidental death.
@YellowEllo Whelp, we'd better release half the murderers in jail then, who were convicted on far less than this. Now ask yourself: what if Casey had actually been a big hairy ugly man? Think this would have been the outcome?
@Jay Beam I'm not sure you can assert that. Who do you think believes that the US justice system, as currently arranged, is "the best in mankind's history"? It serves the wealthy and hands out insanely overharsh punishments to vast numbers of poor people. Virtually no European would consider that it is better than any system in Europe, for example. None of us would wish to have ANY involvment in US "justice".
@AltaMirage i dont know why you are suggesting we release half the criminals as a joke. That severely misrepresented what I said. Just because in one case there was a wrong decision made does not invalidate the others. You must realize that trials are not run by the same guy or jury and so there will be differences in how good they are. You must have missed it but at the end of what I said, I said that I do not know how she was not convicted.
@AltaMirage Pretty much the definition of circumstantial evidence is what it is.
What happens to the body after it is unalive is virtually meaningless. It wouldn't connect her to the crime in any way, even if she literally came out and said that she dumped the body.
If a Google search could be used to convict then I'm sure half of us would be in prison by now. Just the other day I was googling stuff about stabbing, does that mean I stabbed someone?
@AltaMirage You are not your search history. Interest in a subject does not mean that you did, or intend to do, what you're searching for. Is it a good look? Of course not. Does it increase the odds that she committed the crime? Sure. Is it sufficient to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she killed her daughter? I don't think so. I don't know precisely how the defense countered this point of evidence (specifically the tape) but I'd imagine one could make the case that she was concerned with the smell and potential for maggots, and only duct taped her mouth and nose AFTER she had already drowned, rather than as the method of killing her.
@Albert Jordan The defense probably didn't do anything to counter the evidence of the tape, as the tape on its own doesn't prove anything. There's no proof that Casey even was the one who put the tape there to begin with. The only proof that would have been able to convict Casey of the murder is proof that directly links her to the crime at the time of death, of which the prosecution had none. Everything else is circumstantial and is non-admissable for a guilty verdict on its own.
@Royce Thompson I agree. And I'm not happy with alot of outcomes, especially where prosecutorial misconduct plays a part. As JCS states in this video, her attorney focused on telling the jury to set aside all prejudice and only convict if they have proven that Caylee was murdered and the prosecution left doubt. I believe there possibly would have been a conviction if it weren't such a media circus.
@vicky wen yeah totally not suspicious how she accused her dad of sexual assault only after he provided testimony against her, and not at all before when she happily conversed with him when he was on her side.
@Carnival I’m sure Casey also probably screwed the lawyer to pay off her fees too. You know she didn’t have the money to pay him, so she paid him another way. She was def that kind of girl.
Dont be so quick evreryone. Allah see everything and if she did infact do this, she will burn forever. Inshallah she will not get away with anything if she is guilty.
@AltaMirage remember when the guy in the UK was convicted for teaching his dog to Heil Hitler for a meme video on YouTube? European courts really are great guys (HONK)
@AltaMirage It makes me a dispassionate third party. The defense made the case that she did not kill her daughter, only that she discovered her already dead and with the help of her father, sought to cover up her death. You alleged, or at least insinuated, that the duct tape was evidence of murder, I simply provided a plausible alternative explanation. That doesn't mean I think she's a good person, or a rational person, but what I do think is that the evidence was not substantial enough to convict her of homicide, as did the jury.
@P1nkR i am questioning procecutors/defens a lot whether they care to find out the truth or just winning a case by any means even if it means defending a real murder.
Her reaction in the opening statement is utterly disgusting. Shaking her head when blame comes at her. I’m not related to them or even in the same country… But I’m tearing up.
It’s the fact that her parents constantly show how much they love her and care for her even when the world is turning on her, and yet she and her defense team ends up pinning the blame on her father and she doesn’t care a bit. There’s no one Casey cares more for other than herself
The defence was arguing against homicide/manslaughter, instead claiming that she didn't report an accidental death. Maybe another case could be against her for not reporting a death to the state and improper burial, but hey I'm not a lawyer.
Seemed like a dirty tactic and without evidence to call her own dad a pedo.
@Peace and Love does that even matter?, i know aswell and its something i will never ever forget, and i hope il never have to experience that ever again.
it's not really the jury's fault here. somehow the state let the three stooges prosecute this case instead of.. well.. anyone else lol. this should have been a slam dunk. but, somehow, the prosecution was able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
@kinetic Pictures can only imagine the prosecution was completely inept. Perhaps budget cuts for their department? Angry people not wanting to pay taxes means these institutions fail? I really don't know. We can only speculate.
@herogibson people dont blame jurers, but the system. the jurers just get played like anny other puppet. and when u can afford good puppet masters, ka-ching. freedom.
@Anonymous but you can see that when the verdict of not guilty was said the father was stone cold serious, and not celebrating the fact that she got off. He knows she did it. If not the guy was the worst cop ever.
@PhantomStella With illegally aquired evidence the following happends: If the Ministry of Justice cannot prove the charges with other means of evidence, it will be acquitted, if this succeeds, the judge will take into account the fact that the rights of the suspect have been violated in the sentencing.
Where i come from a judge takes all evidence into account.
@Peace and Love I work in a hospital as a wardsman and deal with dead bodies quite often, I assure you the smell is not that of pizza or anything like pizza
@Peace and Love I imagine if you've ever discovered a body you would know, or if you work as any emergency service personnel, there's probably a lot of people who know the sickly rotten smell of a corpse.
As another commetor said, there just wasn't enough evidence to definitely prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey killed her daughter. The autopsy couldn't prove how she died, the prosecution only had circumstantial evidence that she even WAS murdered. Honestly, I don't even think her lawyer was that good. I think the prosecution just sucked and assumed the jury would convict her. Given the circumstances and evidence, Idk if I would have either because of the larger implications it could mean in trials going forward.
@Peace and Love the smell of death is different from all smells growing up finding dead animals is exactly alike to humans. After all we are animals according to science right?
And was there any DNA of the child inside the trunk of her car? This was really a poor performance of the prosecution. Trying to prove guilt simply by character.
@Peace and Love police are likely to know, and it’ll pretty much smell like a beef lasagna left out in the sun for a week with raw eggs on top, then blended and farted into. The smell of a corpse is potent, wrenching, and very distinct.
@Moses King Of Tea Brews yeah, of all the disgusting despicable lies, she throws her parents, her only supporters under the bus. That defense attorney must be as callous and un-feeling as Casey.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
When I was a firefighter we were called out to a 'suspicious smell' during the summer. Turned out a guy had killed himself a couple of weeks prior and the smell was only just starting to permeate the residence and his neighbors had started to notice.
I've smelled far worse things, but the smell of a decomposing body is that primal fear sort of smell that hits your lizard brain with warnings that something isn't right and there's danger.
Once you smell it, it is something that lasts and lasts in your nose. You can smell it in your clothes and on your own body. It is absolutely not something you can ever forget.
If you read the jury's comments they all express that they all believe she's a horrible person and they wish they had more evidence presented to them to put her away. Don't blame the jury, blame the prosecution on this one.
And everyone from that day forth will talk about how messed up this is. Will anyone fo anything?. Could anyone? Never know huh... It'll just keep happening. On other news you can make a bet that we'll update our phone's and cars every year. This isn't just the shame of the jury, it's the shame of every single being in this country. People talking bad about BLM, but what matters is they made the radar. Wicked stays in shadow. I only hope that someday the people who are and get woke will get out of bed next.
@Moses King Of Tea Brews Perhaps, but just the same it would explain her personality disorder, and why her parents were so indulgent. In the end, how do you know?
The trial itself is hard to understand how the jury let her go. It made her look super guilty. I didnt know about it and watched it half way through and on in one afternoon. I was stunned she was found guilty
I've shoveled maggot infested dead rats out of my barn. Death has a smell, something nothing will ever compare to. I can't fucking imagine what human decomposition would smell like. This entire case still pisses me off, but I couldn't help but watch it.
Mordecai the evidence it before them?? car smelling of death, not reporting her daughter missing, blatant lies that were found out, google searches on suffocation the same day her daughter died, lying about people that stated they were lies, and making up people that don’t exist??? probably more i’m forgetting too... you don’t think that was enough evidence out before them?
@LimesOVAlemons but a good jury doesn't do that. if the defense creates a reasonable doubt, they have to pay attention to that. the jury did a good job here, somehow. cuz i feel you. id be a terrible juror cuz i would been like "f dat b, she did it"
@Mordecai well not true, jurors can’t vote however they want, there’s nothing that says they can’t. if the juror thinks the accused is guilty even if the evidence isn’t there they have full power to vote guilty.
@Anonymous Her dad was completely heartbroken. Did you watch the court room footage?? It looked like he was punched in the gut, even though the attorney gave the family a head’s up of their defense. He’s publicly & privately disowned Casey, and has been very outspoken with his disgust for both her & her attorney.
There's little to no argument that Casey: 1. Lied to police 2. Hid the details of her child's death including moving the body 3. Didn't care about her child
However, there is no evidence she murdered her child.
There have been many cases of parent's losing their children by accident, due to a fall, a pool drowning, SIDS, any number of reasons, and they conceal the death and the body from authorities for fear of retribution from what was a genuine, legitimate accident that was no fault of theirs, or due to trauma from having lost their child. It's 100% possible that Casey's child died accidentally, and she panicked, causing the lies and the hiding of the body. It's also possible she murdered her. But since there is no evidence she murdered her, and that exclusively should be the only deciding factor - evidence - she was found not guilty.
The prosecution’s case had a lot of problems, unfortunately. They could never definitively prove how Caylee died. Anthony is guilty as shit, and a monster, but the evidence wasn’t as strong as it needed to be.
@The “Ok” Guy "defense" and "defence" are both linguistically correct, all depending on whether you use British or American English. 🤷 Not to mention, the argument of 'you misspelled a word, therefore your argument is invalid' is juvenile nonsense.
Wanna know the even more fucked part. In as recent article the jury said that his decision still haunts him and if it were today he would say that she was guilty
The judge sentenced her to one year because it was an accidental death. THe only thing she did wrong was lie to police about what happened. the jury had nothing to do with it
@Moses King Of Tea Brews that technically overlaps with this case so they wouldnt be able to prosecute her for it. it sucks on cases like this where people get away with the crime. she would have to be charged on a completely different case.
@EmpressKajal why does christianity always end up about torturing people to get revenge?
In a perfect world we dont torture, we help before it gets to this point. What if the sexual asaault at a young age was true and had a hand in how she became? Not an excuse, but i personally wouldnt feel right torturing that person for eternity no matter what they've done later on.
This kind of nonsense is why so many other countries don't leave such decisions to some jury of random civilians. I still don't understand why the heck America does this, to this day.
@Bunille they could of tried to save her life and just didn’t bring that up again (I haven’t finished the video yet) but they seem like good parents who would def save their daughters life and not leave her rot in a jail cell.
@Schneider Jean Jacques Do you have any difficulty with understanding people's emotions? Because she's definitely got ASPD and her parents are pretty stupid. There is no "poor daughter"... she killed her own! Intentionally!
@OneHairyGuy juries do not find innocence. That is precisely why it is worded as guilty or not guilty. A not guilty verdict is not the same as being innocent
@EmpressKajal It would be nice to find out the names and addresses of the jury members and start making their lives a living hell for the rest of their lives
Everyone that says it's the prosecutor's fault, yes it is. After hearing all the evidence, no matter how weak of a case the prosecutor gave, the jury is still responsible for the verdict.
@Al Bundy Serious question ,, how can she not get any type of sentence/punishment for perjury 🤔 Complete lies from the very beginning ,, AND ON the stand ..
Not the jury's fault the prosecutors were completely incompetent. Just watch any video of the trial and try to tell me with a straight face that they are skilled, compelling orators.
You don't need to shout.. But its OK for a Defense attorney to fabricate" facts" and out right lie to juries to get a guilty person off? Mr Baez coaxed and manipulated the jury like a master. He alone let Ms Anthony go free.. I hope he can sleep well at night.
@herogibson I was obsessed with this case and watched every moment of the trial. The prosecution overcharged and did a horrible job proving their case. She is guilty as sin, but I’m glad I wasn’t on that jury
@Moses King Of Tea Brews Yes, you’re the only one beside myself to pick up on that in the comments. Wasn’t the prosecution allowed a comeback or was it too late in the trial? Also, the Dad don’t show any reaction - in the video clip anyway - to such an accusation especially at such an end point in the procedure. The whole thing was a miscarriage. The lawyer simply outwitted State and jury. Jury was dumb.
@testje aapiel Well, the jury is an integral part of the system. However they tend to be dumb, unable to digest and dissect complicated information and come up with an accurate, appropriate unbiased, disinterested conclusion - all 12! It’s a lot to ask of ordinary citizens.
@PhantomStella And the evidence was right there. The defence was too wiley, though, and able to sway them. Jury system is past its use-by date. Get rid of.
@PhantomStella She has a search history of suffocation and foolproof suffocation, they discover skeletal remains with duct tape on the face and mouth, how the hell is she not guilty? Her entry in her diary, the fact she didn't contact the police for over a month.
@Mordecai so her blatantly lying to police about every single thing leading up to and during the 31 days of her daughter missing isn't evidence? Not contacting anyone about her daughter being missing or the fact that her car smelled like a dead body?
However the prosecution has to prove it. Somebody saying in their opinion it did smell a bit funny, without any collaborating evidence, proves nothing.
The fact that Casey I still out and about after literally murdering her own daughter, waiting 31 days to tell the cops, continuing to lie about it, and never actually facing the reality that she is a horrible person and she needs to be held accountable.
I think a very telling thing here is how blatantly horrible of a human being she appears to be and her parents don’t second guess it or even look phased for the most part. It makes me think she’s always been this terrible person and her parents are so used to it they don’t see any red flags from her behaviour during this meanwhile every other person involved is visibly and audibly like “what the fuck bro”
She literally killed her child then carried on partying and living her life! I’m absolutely gobsmacked…. I was 20 when I had my son and I couldn’t dream of hurting him. He’s my whole life. Yes I had to give up partying and my 20s but I wouldn’t trade it for the world. My child comes before anything. I can’t believe there are people out there who actually took her side and helped her walk away free. Poor poor child. She got no justice and no life. May she rest in peace 💜
And I mean, if she DIDN'T want a child (which is fair enough, I would not have wanted a child at 20 either) - abortion and adoption are options that exist? Why the hell would you instead decide to keep your daughter for 2 years and then murder her?
What a surprise to hear his beautiful voice again. I just got done watching other crime videos and I heard this voice and immediately had to look at the channel
the fact that she made up a babysitter and everything else, painting herself into a guilty corner... and still walked free.... that shit just blows my mind
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h mejia2021-11-16 10:24:08 (edited 2021-11-23 17:56:39 )
Color (that must not be named) privilege is fucking real bruh
@Timmy P If the prosecutor can’t convince the court that someone is guilty beyond reasonable doubt, they shouldn’t convicted. Otherwise we’d lock up anyone for anything. Hell sometimes people seem completely guilty and aren’t. Just watch any court movie, like My Cousin Vinny and 12 Angry Men. Not saying the defendant here is guilty or innocent, just saying that a legal system run by emotions is dangerous and terrifying.
The key to Casey walking free was the advanced decomposition of Caylee’s body by the time she was found. Had that not been the case, I believe an autopsy would’ve been able to reveal incriminating evidence her attorney wouldn’t have been able to overcome. That said, she should’ve been found guilty regardless. That was crazy.
The reason she got off, as well as I can remember, is because the jury thought the death was an accident (probably drowning) and that she was scared that people would think she killed her. So the trial, the public ridicule and the stress involved was punishment enough. There for, not guilty of murder.
@Professor Doom This may sound like a silly question because I don't live in the USA but couldn't they have another trial with a more applicable sentence after this first verdict?
@Patrick Davis I'm no Lawyer but I don't know what they would charge her with or if she could get a fair trial at this point under our laws. It seems to me that this is an old fashioned example of getting away with murder.
@DeathnoteBB The dairy entry, the search history, the car smell, partying for a month while you have no idea where you daughter is. You think she's with a babysitter that you yourself have made up. I guess there's always a what if but maybe everyone should get off then.
@h mejia If you wanna make that argument then I can bring up the OJ Simpson verdict. Do you really wanna go there? You'll get eviscerated but we can go down that road if you really want.
@StudleyDuderight 1. Sow, not sew 2. I assume by state you mean prosecution, but the defense are the ones who have to convince the jury there’s any doubt
@h mejia oh yeah i like it, so far i've been able to riot and loot and destroy public property and the news can't say shit cuz of my skin colour lol. although the rittenhouse verdict rustled their jimmies
@Professor Doom I truly believe she has absolutely no conscience AT ALL, so even if she was In prison it wouldn't effect her one bit. I'm sure to everyone with empathy & feelings, your life even outside of prison would be hell. She doesn't care either way~
@UCoIpQBqzQOP8wRVq0qY8m3Ayes. She was given all that leeway because of race.
All kinds of privileges exist. To blacks too if it pleases you.
To react so strongly to the idea that whites posses it too is telling. Handle it better will ya. If it’s possible for blacks to be privilege as you say how is it that the thought of whites possessing it triggers you so?
To be clear, I can accept the counter argument that she didn’t get off expressly because she is white. But that she got off because of the curtesies (privileges) accorded to her at least in part due to her race is overwhelming. And yet This permitted her in the end of being absolved of murder. Hate on that situation. Not on me for holding this thought. To call me pathetic for having an idea is itself pathetic don’t you think?
@cdf360 I didn’t intimate your thought she should go free. I’m black and thought they OJ should’ve been found guilty. Am I now absolved off all the wrongheadedness you believe afflicts my every utterance?
The argumentative and defensive posture is born out of some states and unstated assumptions. When you expressly say you’re not sure how white privilege plays into this it may be helpful to consider, perhaps as q defile advocate thought experiment on your part how it could. The very statement that you don’t know how might cause some humility that it may be outside your current field of view is all.
There’s no doubt that her defense was successful. And she’s entitled to it. They say even hitler would be entitled to the best and most robust defense possible. Absolving people of crimes through artful and legal defense isn’t the same as justice
Look, the jury itself is born of and instructed by the system. They are in fact expressly selected for a certain set of characteristics most favorable to a certain outcome … it comes down to who prevails in the election process.
You don’t agree she should’ve walked. I don’t agree either. There are mechanics as to what led to this aberration. I get that you’re allergic to the contributing factor I point out. But why?
What I’m saying to you is that from a black and brown perspective she was accorded privileged as a direct result of her race. Privileges not only not customarily accorded other races but very often denied.
Im not sure why even tho you agree she should not have not walked free in the same sentence you extol the virtues of her defense. Which is to be valued more in your estimation? A robust and capable defense yes, always. but justice and truth paramount. That didn’t win the day here. Why?
@h mejia defense is essential to fair trial and by extension, justice. Not sure what you are referring to when talking about the jurors. You say that "they are in fact expressly selected for a certain set of characteristics most favorable to a certain outcome." This is entirely false. Jurors in the Northern District of Florida are selected at random from the certified list of registered voters from Florida's Secretary of State. If I'm not mistaken, this case was prosecuted in the Northern District. If you could list some of these privileges, rather than vaguely stating that she was afforded unspecified benefits, I would appreciate it
@h mejia She was allowed to lie about the phantom nanny, and the fake job? How so? Once her story was deconstructed and found to be a lie by the investigators, she was arrested practically on the spot and arraigned as quickly as the courts would allow. How did she get away with lying? You act like the detectives believed her story and let her walk. It's absurd.
if you want to get mad at the jury, fine, go ahead, but I'm not sure what you want in terms of systematic change in regard to trials in the US. The investigators and the prosecutors are not responsible for determining her guilt. They are the system. They did all they could to secure a conviction and failed. They didn't give her any breaks, the jury did.
The system did all it could do, and the jury failed the American people. Jury selection is not relevant because the prosecution gets just as much of a say as the defense, hence why I didn't bother to mention it.
Your constant insistence on white privilege as playing a role in this case seems pretty weak, as you have yet to explain anything substantial as it relates to this case.
@Patrick Davis fair question. There’s a principal of double jeopardy. Not versed in all its intricacies but the verdict as it stands was such that I precludes her being charged in the matter again. She can be tried in civil court (in contrast to the criminal court in which she was exonerated). This court has a lower bar to broach as regards culpability. It generally seeks to establish culpability and thus financial liability. It is something that parents or next of kin would seek as restitution. But seeing as she is the accused, there’s no interested party who would launch the suit. I suppose the grandparents could but they don’t seem to have the stomach for it and who knows if they possess sufficient legal standing to do so. The way the whole sorry mess stands, there’ll never be direct justice for that little girl. She was unfortunately born into a lethal situation and no recourse. We as a human community can grieve for her bad fortune but apparently that is all.
@DeathnoteBB isn't it if one juror is against the verdict of the others it's a hung jury. I think the point is that they all agreed that she was not guilty
@DeathnoteBB I remember the time before DNA a girl swore up and down, looked the man right in the eyes, and pointed in his face saying "That is the man who raped me, I would never forget his face". Come to find out once DNA got involved the guy was innocent and he just sat in prison for 20 years. Most would say that the girl saying he was the rapist with such conviction was compelling "evidence" but it's not proof of anything. You have to prove it, that is why she walked.
@Patrick Davis The problem is the concept of double jeopardy. Basically, a citizen can not be tried for the same crime twice. Even if you frame it differently. A jury let her go, we have to accept their choice, as there was no cause for a mistrial.
@Patrick Davis I am not an attorney, so please realize this is my “understanding of the laws”.
The US has a little thing called double jeopardy. I don’t believe they can retry her. The defense can appeal verdicts, but the prosecution is usually to the original verdict.
I think prosecution might get to appeal if prove of a jury tampering, judge tampering……
If a hung jury, prosecution can decide if they will retry the case.
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danny 𓆩♡𓆪2021-12-09 20:41:55 (edited 2021-12-09 20:51:08 )
@StudleyDuderight in ojs case it sadly became more of a political matter than a murder trial , because at the time police brutality and prejudice against black people was a huge problem , and his celebrity status also helped him get away with it even more , so i don’t think using him as an example is really fair to the argument (sorry if my grammar is bad english isn’t my first language <3)
People fail to understand you have to prove that someone actually killed someone else this is very hard to do it’s not o he probly did it it’s a bitch to convince anyone of anything much less when you keep being told you have to be really sure are you sure hey guy are you sure dude there’s no way
The fact that she also said the baby sitter was black and Hispanic. That didn't sit right with me along with this entire case. I lived in Orlando during this time and I will always hate the fact she was let free to go and never paid for what she did to that innocent little girl. Smh
@Patrick Davis I guess not if they considered all that evidence at the time as being not enough to charge her with anything. What else is there to consider? And her daughter is already long gone
That's a great lawyer. I think probably the best lawyer. This was without a doubt an open and shut case. We've gotten enough information to know she's guilty from a two hour video. There were 12 people in court for weeks that were fed a boatload more of evidence, and her lawyer still got her off. He's one of the worst people alive, along with Casey, but a great lawyer.
@Patrick Davis unless they found new evidence they couldn't try her again because otherwise they would be allowed to just put her through trial after trial until they got what they wanted
@StudleyDuderight a beloved celebrity with one of the best defense teams money can buy? (SOOO much money) That's a different kind of privilege. There are all kinds. Straw man arguments are so exhausting and simple minded.
@cdf360 she was afforded white privileges the moment the investigation began. From the way the police treated her, how they investigated her claims, etc. If you don't see these privileges then you suffer from racism. It may be internalized bc of culture/upbringing/education, and that's okay. The key is recognizing that maybe your biased and then listening. Your defensiveness is telling.
@André She had a whole lot of privileges. I don't get why these folks are so resistant to recognizing and accepting that people have ingrained bais in all factors of life. The key is recognizing them and doing our very best to correct them. We are not doing our very best.
@Kate Grimes Kopanski how did they treat her and how did they investigate her claims? I’m genuinely curious how it would be different. I’m not being defensive, I’m asking for something substantial. No one has offered me any substantial evidence of her being afforded privileges that others would not get based solely on skin color.
Also “if you disagree with me, you’re racist” is not a good way to win people over, and will turn normal people who simply have a disagreement with you into legitimate racists who feel justified for being so. So, bad move on your part
All because investigators and prosecutors apparently don't know computers can have multiple browsers. Without a doubt "foolproof suffocation" would have put her behind bars without a doubt
@DeathnoteBB a reason to doubt is not reasonable doubt. "She searched chloroform 84 times because she meant to search chlorophyll" is by no means reasonable, but a lot of juries don't realise there's a distinction there
@Sam The act of Googling chloroform is not the act of murder, sorry I had to spell that out for you. If Googling things was illegal, writers would all be in jail. Again not saying she wasn’t guilty of something, but it couldn’t be proven to the standards of a court of law. That said sometimes cases get botched, but it sounds like nobody really knows for sure what happened so the exact crime is therefore hard to convict.
@DeathnoteBB its evidence. Especially considering the prosecution brought up the detection of unusual levels if chloroform in Casey's car. The same car that smelled distinctly of decomposition. Do you think no one should be convicted of murder based on any evidence that isn't explicit footage of them killing?
@Sam I really don’t know. I’m not a lawyer, I just know the law is often based on past cases (though maybe it’s different for criminal cases) and sometimes people are falsely accused. I don’t know what could have or should have been done differently, I just disagree that we can convict people for murder on a “I’m super sure though”. People have been just as sure about people who didn’t do it.
@Patrick Davis That's why they charged her with multiple crimes. The neglect charge would have covered this, and the jury still said not guilty on all charges.
@StudleyDuderight Actually yes... Proving guilt is the whole goal of the prosecution... They're assumed innocent until proven guilty.... By the prosecution!
@DeathnoteBB I’m not saying white privilege doesn’t exist, it just doesn’t exist in either of those cases. I’m not exactly sure where you’re getting the idea that I ever said white privilege isn’t real. I very specifically spoke about just these two cases.
If you want to argue points that I didn’t try to make, knock yourself out lmao
@Timmy P same mate same.. the fact that she can have another child or children...or even look after someone else's children EVER again.. Is HELLA scary.
@Professor Doom But the duct tape??? I guess you could say the child put it there... possibly... but then Casey's complete lack of remorse and happiness after her daughters death points to something being very wrong.
@Patrick Davis the Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution: "...nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb."
The prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
@h mejia in this case its the fact that she is a woman and that she played a sexual abuse card on her father , it has nothing to do with skin color , dont lie to your self
@Raven Valentine all those are valid factors and nine of course can be wrong but to pompously discount the possibility of extra leeway she may receive because of race bias as bing inconceivable Is rife with the self lying you accuse me of. It’s called projection
Before you start yet another Lynch mob, let me explain why it makes sense that she went free.
Before I start, let me indicate that she is absolutely 100% guilty of the crime. She murdered her own flesh and blood because she wanted to be a party girl. However, the reason that she went free is not because the jury was incompetent, but rather the prosecutor and the investigators.
In America, our standard of guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt and everyone is presumed innocent until proven otherwise. Going in with that assumption, Jose Baez, who was Casey's attorney, is an excellent attorney. As far as lawyers go. He was able to poke holes and the investigatory process and introduce other; explanations as to the death of her child that the prosecutor was not able to disprove beyond a reasonable doubt.
While she should be in jail for the rest of her life, the fact of the matter is that with the way that the judicial system operates and with the way that the events played out at her actual trial, her going free was the correct choice.
A lawyer with questionable ethics and intent, masterfully applying deception and manipulation to successfully defend an accused (and almost certainly guilty) murderer. Good to see "justice" being served. In a legal system which allows two ruthless sociopaths to walk out of that courtroom.
This is the first time that im actually sitting here looking/ listening to all the evidence they had for this case and I AM BEYOND PISSED besides all the lies and stuff the fact that shes more interested in trying to speak to her BF than trying to help in any way to help find her kid just screams guilty like wtf
@YouTube Censors uhh, no, because she fabricated a random minority with an overly lengthy, stereotypical name in a stereotypical profession to be her scapegoat.
@BruhMomentHD R well, it is quite surprising that the first thing she came up with was a mixed, black puerto-rican with a long stereotypical name working in a low-paying job.
@natalia if there are more hispanic babysitters than caucasian, and I am to lie to police about a baby sitter, why would not one use a name that others are most likely to believe? If she said Fredrik Andersson would that in itself not raise suspicion? It is not racist if there is a statistical cause to it.
@CATIFY If that’s surprising, you’ve never been to Florida. Y’all wanna be triggered so bad lmao. It’s Florida that’s who 99 times out of 100 will be a nanny. Who’d you think she was with? KayleighLou Mayosmith? Sheesh thanks tumblr wokes for being offended on my big brown behind though 🤦🏾♀️😂😂
@AntiKiwieCS thank you. It’s called increasing the probability people will believe your BS like criminals do. I’m Latina and had she said Hannah I’d have been like 🤨 🤔 She said she left her there overnights. That’s not your high school baby sitter that’s a whole nanny. Slow people smh
@Chantal Doesn't calling her racist mean YOU'RE the person automatically thinking of race? If the 1st thing you think is about the race of the fake nanny, it just seems like you may constantly have race on the mind.
Not YOU in particular, but whoever said it.
Most people think she said "Zenaida", a Spanish name, because people named Zenaida shorten it to "Zanny". The only other "Zannies" people refer to are the pills, Xanax. It's commonly believed she would knock Caylee out with Xanax when she partied, saying Caylee is watched by "zanny the nanny".
I never heard about this case (I live in the UK) and… just… wow. I’m almost lost for words. That defence attorney is far too good at his job and, though I understand hindsight is 20-20, I am amazed that a jury could find her not guilty.
I had a retired cop friend of mind tell me when this case first broke that Casey was guilty. I asked how he knew and he said he could tell by her eyes.
I had vaguely heard of this case before, but only fully learned of it last night when I stumbled on a documentary on Hayu where an expert team go through everything again. She is so obviously a Sociopath, I am not sure how anyone could not see it! She lies with great ease, but her lies are not even intelligent ones as they are so easy to prove as lies.
She truly repulses me. Some have said that she drugged her daughter with Xanax, hence the zanny reference... must have thought she was being clever there...and would put her in the trunk of her car whilst she went clubbing or partying, which was all she seems to care about, even to this day. With the Florida heat, the child died due to the heat and Casey simply shrugged and tried to carry on until the smell became noticeable.
I have seen a lot of people, including someone who spoke to one of the experts who interviewed her for 100 hours, claim this, but then, where would the search about how to suffocate, come in? She apparently, never wanted this child and had wanted an abortion, then, when the baby was due, to have her adopted, but her mother wanted her to keep it. I have read that her mother liked to keep up appearances and a certain image. This explains a lot.
The father would have known very quickly when that trunk was opened. He will have recognise the smell of death immediately, due to his job and I feel very sorry for him. I imagine his attempted suicide and the note were because he had seen signs in his daughter and did not act sooner. I imagine that the mother very much controls that household, regardless of how much control he has within his job as a cop. I think he knew right away what she had done, but the mother is either in denial and cannot endure fully accepting it or simply cannot let go of her daughter, in spite of having said to friends she thought she was a Sociopath.
I think the jury were very inexperienced, since they had to search to find people who knew little of the case. Instead of objectively analysing the evidence and actually thinking about what made sense and what did not, from what I have heard from a few, they were more focused on the emotions and theatrics of the prosecution than the actual evidence, facts and her behaviour!
Apparently, she wants another child now, and I hope she does not as any child she has will go the same way. She has not evolved at all and still seems to spend most of her time in bars and flitting from far fetched job to far fetched job. I find it infuriating that there is no way to do a retrial.
She searched online for "suffocation", takes 30 days to report her child missing, avoid putting her daughter on the phone to talk with her parents, go to parties, gets a tattoo "Living the good life" , while her child is missing, lies about her workplace and coworkers, says her child was with Zanny the nanny and then she goes free? ...I need a whiskey!
If it was a father then he would've been put under the jail without a second thought. This whole case fuckin disgusts me, there was so much evidence that points to her and the way she fucking acted afterwards and she still gets off without a slap on the wrist. Goddamn I hate the justice system
@milspire exactly! I'm a chick and I can even admit that I have a better chance at getting nothing but a slap on the wrist when it comes to certain shit and its utter bullshit. The double standard is so unbearably stupid.
@Amarathros yeah but she was able to walk because they decided that she served enough time waiting for trial (3 years) but yeah at least she was found guilty for something
Classic case of over-confident prosecution. They knew they could not prove certain elements of the crime but chose to pursue the charges anyway as opposed to tailoring the charges to fit the evidence available.
Just imagine how much harm this sociopathic woman will now cause to other people during the rest of her life! She might even continue murdering people as she now knows how easy it is to get away with murder. How utterly irresponsible to let such a human roam freely ....
All of you commenting, she murdered her daughter and got away with it. I followed this story when it happened. And since this shit all ended and casey disappeared she started a fucking daycare like wtf. So sickening. So I just dont understand this world anymore.
@Moon Moon If it was a father, if it was a black lady, why don't we just stop scapegoating race/sex and just see the life for what it really is: unfair. Some people get lucky, some people don't
@Angie T well, I can't simply punch a person in the face and then say "ooooh bad luck buddy, life is unfair". if people aren't accountable for their actions then society doesn't work anymore
I would think that would be a direct link between the search and how she died. If suspects robs a bank later it is found they were looking up banks and bank robberies the night before on the internet. Isnt the suspects most likely guilty of the robbery?
...Holy shit, I thought I was up on the details of this case but somehow I'd never read that diary entry of hers where she talks about having "made the right decision." I am floored. Literally I'm speechless.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it her mother that ended up reporting Caylee missing? And the only reason her mom knew was because she had to track down Casey herself, I don't think Casey had any intention of ever reporting Caylee missing herself.
Now you know that not always that justice has been served, it is life, really lack of fairness and no responsibility has been filled related to a child's death. How beautiful this life is!
So, I have a question about the law and everything in general. So the Defense Attorney had to try to turn gult away into not guilty. Personally, I would’ve just walked out. What would actually happen if the defense attorney were to just walk out of the case? Could they go to jail? Lose their job?
Just read this excerpt from a recent update on what she’s been up to since her daughters death… talk about a narcissist..
“In December 2020, Anthony launched a private investigation firm in Florida. Paperwork for a new company titled “Case Research & Consulting Services LLC” was filed with the Florida Division of Corporation under her name on December 14, according to documents obtained by The Daily Mail.
Although some reports have implied that Anthony wants to investigate the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter, a source close to Anthony told People in January 2021 that’s not the case. “That’s a closed chapter in her life,” said the insider. “She’s not starting a company to get answers about Caylee.”
The fact that her parents, the same people that lovingly believed all her lies and still tried to give her the opportunity to live a normal life, knew RIGHT AWAY that she did something to Caylee, says enough.
I knew a person in my life that was showing these qualities of a pathological liar and their parents just going along with it. Watching this case really reminds me of it. It’s crazy
@Bryanx317 Parents ALWAYS wish they were better parents, so that means nothing at all. Even fantastic parents who give their kids everything including all the love in the world still think they are not being the best parent. Parents always lack confidence in their abilities as parents.
@Bryanx317 Some children are born even with perfect parents. And on the other hand of the spectrum; if you look at Amy Winehouse's father (see the documentary) and see the result, we see a damaged daughter, not a psychopath. It is been suggested Casey was brought up without consequences for her actions, but I don't know if that's enough to create a monster.
This lawyer is gonna bust Hell wide open. To conclude that the word of a pathological liar against her father, without investigation or corroboration is an unthinkable breach of justice. This makes the judge a useless figure, allowing such drivel to proceed unchecked and unquestioned. So now, not only does Casey murder her child, she then butchers her own father's reputation. In light of this "revelation", was George investigated and convicted? This whole proceeding was disgusting on the part of the defence. And for a jury to fall for that line of reasoning, speaks very poorly of our society in general. This is the original "me too" synopsis. Well after the Joe Biden vs Justice Thomas incident. (Let's go Brandon!)
Just read this excerpt from a recent updated on what she’s been up to since her daughters death… talk about a narcissist..
“In December 2020, Anthony launched a private investigation firm in Florida. Paperwork for a new company titled “Case Research & Consulting Services LLC” was filed with the Florida Division of Corporation under her name on December 14, according to documents obtained by The Daily Mail.
Although some reports have implied that Anthony wants to investigate the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter, a source close to Anthony told People in January 2021 that’s not the case. “That’s a closed chapter in her life,” said the insider. “She’s not starting a company to get answers about Caylee.”
Sounds like very submissive parents and she was taught early on that lying was beneficial. If she was already a narcissist than that’s a breeding ground for escalation.
@R K And, like her, he possibly never will. It's shameful. Hopefully, there is some sort of unrelated charge (Fraud, etc) that prohibits him from the possibility of running again. Even though I believe he would lose again.
@Ben Smith Don’t think R K is comparing the level of their criminality, simply the fact that they never face ANY accountability for their evil actions….
ikr, she must think now she can do whatever she wants, probably getting manic very soon and doin' some shit. It's crazy too that there's a whole group of psychopaths doing a strategically tricking defense just for the sake of gaining reputation for cases like this where the accused one is obviously guilty but could be safed by fooling a bunch of people who probably didn't even remember half the speech but "got raped, had to lie, that's not fair". The Defendor even said that they DON'T KNOW what is actually true so it's not right to 'suppose' she's guilty whilst not having enough evidence for the actual murder-part but end his speech with "the charges are simply not true" without having enough evidence of proving they aren't. What a bunch of bs, man, what a bunch of bs.
@Sayuri don't tell people to grow up when you read x holy book and just take eveything at face value despite there being very little evidence that whatever god you believe in exist. Like come on.
@Sassy The Sasquatch you can have the opinion that both are bad lmao. Bernie supporter here, hated Biden too but he was still a fuckload better than Trump on most issues.
I'm confused if there was duct tape on the body of caylee, why did the defense say she drowned in a swimming pool? Uhh, there was literal duct tape showing she was killed in other means.
@R K It’s just the fact you want to make an irrelevant joke related to donald trump over such a horrific murder case is what people are giving you backlash for, we understood your joke just didn’t find any humor in it regarding a video like this.
@TheReverseEffect ah yes, because a massive rise in inflation, gas prices, food prices and the threat of nuclear war from Chinese state media is better than mean tweets.
@R K biden need to take responsibility for abusing multiple women and little girls but trump not trampling on the human rights of others is the problem trump cant control people or a virus he isnt a god and to soley blame him for virus deaths is like blaming a veteran for getting drafted
@TheReverseEffect As someone who is getting his graduate degree in physics, you oughta know that lack of evidence does not mean something is false or no exist. Plus, I haven’t even disclosed my beliefs on the subject. And regardless, an omnipotent God is unfalsifiable. Meaning it is by definition impossible to prove wrong. Hope this bit of education helps you realize how much of a hypocrite you are. And to turn a comment about how a child murderer deserves divine punishment into a debate bout religion is just so juvenile and immature.
@R K last time i checked we are called the land of the free the president is not responsible for other people action Trump locked down the country, urged the private sector to make mask and ventaltors and increase testing that all he can do he cant control the people and force them to lockdoqn thats not his job and it never was im sorry you want a dictator as president but i dont he said it was the states responsibility to handle their people the fedral government would supply the medical stuff that is how this country was designed the state trumps the federal government not the other way around
@Sayuri Also, by this logic, I can say "Oh, actually, we were created by a species of gallatic unicorns so they could more closely monitor and understand life" when actually, while this is non falsifiable, you'd look crazy believing this
To this day I still don't know what the jury did here. She lied about the nanny and she even said she spoke with the kid a week earlier, when she was already far dead. She never reported it, shows no attachment for the child whatsoever, her car smelled like a dead body, wrote in her diary that it's the happiest she's ever been and wrote that "she hopes the means justify the actions" in her diary, explaining that the time without the kid is the happiest she's been. She said that she had nothing to spoke with the police when the 911 call and also made up Jeffrey's whole thing. And also the nanny didn't even exist so she is trying to be deceitful for the police to find her child, which only makes sense if she's the murderer. I just can't understand how she was found guilty of nothing, not even child neglect, and now is just out there.
I love the defense lawyer, he’s such a jackass and comes off like a car salesman, even the way he’s dressed. Even though it’s awful that she walked, that was some damn good lawyering he did
In September 2008, a Zenaida Gonzalez sued Casey for defamation. During the investigation, Anthony told investigators that she left 2+1⁄2-year-old Caylee with a babysitter named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez—also known as "Zanny"—on June 16 at the stairs of a specific apartment in the Sawgrass apartment complex located in Orlando. Zenaida Gonzalez, who was listed on apartment records as having visited apartments on that date, was questioned by police, but stated she did not know Casey or Caylee.[182] Her defamation suit sought compensatory and punitive damages, alleging that Casey willfully damaged her reputation.[183] Gonzalez told reporters that she lost her job, was evicted from her house, and received death threats against herself and her children as a result of Anthony's lies. Gonzalez' lawyer, John Morgan, said he wanted to interrogate Anthony about Caylee's death because it was "the essence" of the defamation suit.
On October 8, 2011, Morgan deposed Casey via a video conference. She exercised her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination and answered only a couple of factual questions. Morgan felt that was improper, but legal experts thought that Anthony was well within her rights to plead the Fifth until her appeals of the convictions for lying to officers had been exhausted.[185] Gonzalez' attorneys sought and received permission to obtain Anthony's address (though it was kept sealed from the public) so they could subpoena her to testify, even if she only took the stand long enough to plead the Fifth. However, Gonzalez had been willing to drop the suit if Anthony were to apologize to her and compensate her for pain and suffering.[186][187] In September 2015, a judge ruled in favor of Anthony, stating: "There is nothing in the statement…to support (Gonzalez') allegations that (Anthony) intended to portray (the nanny) as a child kidnapper and potentially a child killer."
In July 2011, Texas EquuSearch (TES), a non-profit group which assisted in the search for Caylee from July to December 2008 when she was believed to be missing, sued Anthony for fraud and unjust enrichment. TES estimates that it spent more than $100,000 searching for Caylee even though she was already dead.[189] TES founder and director Tim Miller estimates that the abortive search for Caylee expended 40% of the group's yearly resources which could have been spent looking for other missing children. It only learned that Anthony knew all along that Caylee was dead when the trial began.[190] TES and Anthony eventually settled out of court on October 18, 2013. TES was listed as a creditor to Anthony and was entitled to $75,000
you’re mixing stuff up. sociopathy is the result of an abusive childhood and is a disordered adaptation and illness. on the contrary, psychopaths are born, not made that way due to their environment. this is the current general consensus in psychology. Schizophrenia has more of a clear genetic link than it does to abuse.
@Jason Bladzinski yeah, i was thinking the same. But they arent wrong in a way. Shit loads of trauma and abuse will increase odds of illness and disorders in the mind. Did the trauma cause the illness or just bring it out within them? A real chicken or egg question.
James Michaels you have it closes to the truth. The causes of personality disorders are still not fully understood and are constantly changing as more research is being done on how exactly the human brain works. Genetic and environmental influences both play apart in personality disorders, genes make you vulnerable/more susceptible to developing a personality disorder and environmental/life situation may trigger the actual development. Substance abuse is also believed to be a trigger as well.
Someone mentioned strict - I think that is true due to the fact that her father is a police man, her monther fabricated the whole school fiasco just so they can save their faces from being branded as a bad parent.
IAMParaDROID do you mean when Casey is talking to her mom through the jail phone in person? Or when she is talking to her from the jail (the long distance call)? Or both?
@Rachel Goodman Both, but especially the initial conversation (early on in the video at least) in which she basically blames her own mother for being in jail.
@IAMParaDROID I'll have to rewatch the video so I can find that part! Jim packs so much content into each video that sometimes I can't keep track of which part is which! You're right though...the manipulation is stunning. I wonder if her mom realized her whole life that she was being manipulated by her daughter (maybe in denial?) or if she honestly has had no idea.
@Arnel Emnace I think her father being a police officer had a lot to due with her sentencing! They should have charged her with second degree murder, even if it seems obvious given the evidence that it was first degree to us, court cases in criminal investigations are heavily scrutinized and have strict parameters of what evidence can be used, including how it was obtained. But yes no doubt her Dad had some pull in this. Her family seemed to care a lot about optics, even when visiting her in jail it was do hard to watch how "loving" her parents were to her.
@Bob Smith that isn't what sociopaths is. Sociopaths are generally born that way. A terrible childhood makes them worse, and can essentially turn them into "psychopaths". However, a sociopath raised in a loving home still has no ability to feel emotion. They have been essentially " pretending to be emotional beings" since the day they were born.
I thought the question was going to be between life imprisonment and death sentence, not that she was going to be found not guilty, what in the actual f***
It's nice to hear cops having a human reaction to a psychopath as opposed to all the coddling and stroking of Chris Watts. Even though it was necessary.
See this particular psychopathy can be enabled by meth coke and booze, or "the happiest she has ever been" as she says. Anti psychotics will induce an overwhelming feeling of remorse, followed by a permanent state of PTSD dementia symptoms
She was raised thinking that lying will get you out of anything, and I hate it so damn much that it did in this case. She should of been given the chair.
How could the jurors not even have found neglect - did they actually attend the trial? Shame shame on them, how do they live with themselves, 11 hours given to the subject - they wanted to go home.
@Louis Waze Lack of emotion??? Last one seen with child; no one ever saw child again; car smelled of death; would not let her father go into the trunk; 31 days not reporting child missing; child's remains found in same clothes she left home with on the 16th; lies and more lies and still more lies; and you think the jury were looking for emotion? Well, you know that is the first thing that makes sense as to how they could find her not guilty. There is nothing else to pin not guilty on, with OJ it was race, but this amazed me until now, "she needed to show emotion" in addition to all the other factors. OMG!
cam lacasse lol I never argued she was innocent did you not even read my comment, at the end of the day it comes down to how the defendants and so forth argue their points in court and clearly the opposing side went more of an emotional biased which the defendants lawyer used against them, I never once defended her, I simply defended the system we have set in place which was wasn’t taken advantage of by said convectors
@Louis Waze When you are in a court of law as a juror emotions should never replace FACTS - no matter how stupid one is or how insignificant they feel as a juror. 11 hours of deliberations tells you everything - hey, enough of this, let's get home. Emotions displaced the fact that Caylee was missing for 31 days and that does not reflect neglect? These jurors have to live with themselves and know they left a very dangerous person wild on our streets, who will kill again just you wait and see, this is not the end of Casey Anthony and her crimes.
@Louis Waze There are so many cases where people have been convicted with FAR less compelling circumstantial evidence. The justice system failed Caylee miserably.
@cam lacasse If it were my county, the jury may let her go. But she'd go missing just like that child. She got lucky, the evidence wasn't found soon enough. There are certain things we shouldn't let slide, all of the evidence points towards her, it sadly just wasn't strong enough. But as I said, justice doesn't always just end with a jury. What is justice if not just revenge with a new coat of paint?
@Zachary Kidd You don't find she was guilty of neglect by not caring for her child - her imaginary friends were obviously not caring for Caylee, the grandparents wanted to see her and knew Casey was using passive aggressiveness to keep them away they probably thought. No one but Casey knew Caylee was missing - no one knew for 31 days - and that isn't neglect? Neglect that hinges on murder since the smell of death was in Caseys car and since no one saw Caylee after the 16th the day after the blow up with her mother. Casey blamed Caylee and got rid of her that day. I used to think accident - but not any longer - an envious jealous rage and get rid of this child, my child, which my mother prefers to me and without her I can have the life I want. Oh, Casey will kill again - hope it is one of the juror's family members.
@cam lacasse which of those facts are meant to be proof beyond reasonable doubt that she committed first degree murder? That is not the way the law works. The fault if any is with the prosecution, not jurors.
@cam lacasse the prosecution didn't have enough evidence to convict. As soon as the news channels brought up the fact that the evidence they went forward with was unprecedented (the smell of the trunk) for convictions showed it was a rocky chance of conviction at best
@cam lacasse I think it is that the evidence points to "no one else" instead of "it is her" that made it insufficient. And female privilege is added onto the court. As race and gender is unable to pin her down.
@1 Mol I thin the jurors were tired and spent 11 hours to determine that a woman and her child last seen was found months later in the same clothes; no one had seen the child since that day, June 16. The mother continuously lied as to where or who had the little girl. There is a terrible death smell in the car after it is left by a dumpster and we know the mother left the car since her boyfriend picked her up and she explained that eventually her father would get the dar. Of course she lied and no one knew for 31 days that this little girl was even missing. Then it became an onion of lies, one after the other. She told no one her child was missing. She borrowed the shovel from net door. The child's hair - fallen from her dead head because of banding was in the trunk, along with the decomposition smell and chloroform. Now, how could anyone hearing this not convict this woman? Shame, shame on a lazy, don't give a darn for justice as we want to go home.
@cam lacasse I hate to break it to you but that's all circumstantial evidence, which is not enough to prosecute on. That would set a bad precedent for any case after it. The prosecution really bungled the case, and the police did too. Police got a call for Caylees body (reported as a plastic bag) like a month after her death, no one went to investigate. The google search for suffocation only occurred on a Firefox web browser, and the police only mined data from another browser. I believe she's guilty as sin, but the evidence was so scant against her. Had Forensic methods and due process been the same as they are today, they probably would have built a stronger case. IMO they should have went for lesser charges like infringing on an investigation, lying under oath, child neglect for not reporting her daughter missing, etc. They could have gotten that no problem.
@doom buddie You know what before we had DNA every case was circumstantial evidence. Unfortunately we do not have a video of every murder committed, so we have to use common sense and connect the dots. This woman will kill again and that is the precedent this will set. Both she and OJ - got away with murder. But to murder the innocent child of two takes a very evil person with a very dark core. God will.gave His Karma and it will not be pretty. Just imagine if she had gone through with her plan to also murder her parents - so she could get the house. She will make headlines again one of these days, This kind of murderer doesn't just quit.
had 12 jurors who seemed to have had to have a video in order to show them how she exactly murdered Caylee. They had no common sense to connect the dots and they wanted to go home -- 11 hours of deliberation - tired of this and to heck with any judicial responsibility we have to the 2 years old victim, this helpless innocent child murdered by her own mother. How do they sleep at night? @PenskePC23
@cam lacasse I really urge you to look up the definition of circumstantial evidence. Law enforcement does it's best with the evidence they have at the time, I'm not sure what else you can do about that. If you just want a court system based on on only circumstantial evidence and what you THINK may have happened, that's only a few degrees away from total kangaroo court. Setting aside this case, and broadening our view to the court system and general, I would like to think that if you or I were accused of a crime they would use the best evidence and methods they have at the time - not just shaky evidence or something that might vaguely put you there just because you left your hair there or something. Would you not agree?
@doom buddie I am a paralegal so I do know the meaning of circumstantial. Do you? A mother who murdered her two year old helpless and innocent child is out on our streets, that scares me.
@cam lacasse whatever may be the case, you have to agree the evidence was not solid enough. You cannot lock people up based on what you think they may do, or on how you feel about them. You need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
@doom buddie You have your opinion. I suggest to you that you excuse yourself from any jury in future as you unless they have a video of the crime committed. I don't agree, I agree with the Judge who was so stunned, shocked, he said he actually had to read the sentence twice to be sure he read it correctly. He said the prosecution proved its case and that both sides of lawyers were very good. He went on to say, that PERHAPS, it was an accident that the mother gave too much chloroform and went on to mention the two Casey Anthonys. As soon as the jury came in she was silent and a victim; but when the jury exited the court room, she laughed, giggled, talked to the attorneys and it seemed she was even ordering them what to do. I am of the same opinion of the judge who was in charge of this notorious trial by careless and stupid jurors.
@cam lacasse I'm sorry you feel that way but you need more evidence other than a person acting gross. I would expect I wouldn't be selected for jury service because of my own forensic experience anyhow. Shut it with the snappy comments and look at the evidence at hand. Even the jurors thought she was guilty but there was not enough evidence.
@Louis Waze she literally lied about everything. If we are friends, you are murdered and i lie about where i was and i got caught im a prime suspect. What she lied about is far worse tho, inventing people among others.
@DHAGSFU you’re emotions don’t count as evidence they are simply an indicator, for example if someone acted suspiciously they couldn’t use this as evidence in court, they could however use it as support for a point e.g the person is guilty because of whatever and this is also supported through their mannerisms etc but it is not convicting evidence. I AM NOT DEFENDING HER I AM DEFENDING OUR LEGAL SYSTEM!
@doom buddie First off, I really like your comments. Insightful and non-emotional. Can you please tell me, how the duct tape on the victim does not blow apart the defendants story about how that victim drowned in a pool?
@Ann D. did you not read my previous comments. If you actually bother to do so you can see I am arguing that evidence is needed as people tried saying she was guilty just because of her mannerisms and speech,which do you think what you just said should be listed as. If you’re quick you’ll realise I have no issue with this as this is evidence, not something I was arguing against.
@Louis Waze I did read your argument and heartily agree with you on all points. But I still wonder why the duct-tape on the skeleton would be something she could talk her way out of, or, in hopefully better words, something that would not prove her child was murdered, not drowned, as well as her involvement in the deed. I honestly am too lazy, or too busy, and certainly too disgusted, to really read up on the case, so I just hope to find someone here who might know how that seemingly crucial piece of evidence got crushed by the defense.
@Ann D. me too, apologies for the aggression I assumed you were disagreeing with what I said so that assumption was my fault. I hope she got locked up for life and never sees the outside world again
@Louis Waze understandably. Many in that thread did not get what you were saying. And I do have my problems with the circumstantial evidence part, esp. since it seems to applied somewhat randomly. It freed her and O.J. Simpson, but did not help so many other, lower profile cases. And I do believe that duct-tape… well you know that. There is such a very fine line between something being accepted as definite proof or being tossed out. Personally I believe that some things are way less doubtful than a witness-statement. But mainly I am glad I don't have to judge person's life.
Hope she gets what’s coming to her if she’s guilty of murdering her daughter the poor baby...but hey many others get away with murder too she’s not the only one...
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matt nelson2021-04-06 09:04:40 (edited 2021-04-30 09:40:59 )
And amazingly she didn't even lie well, the prosecutor who tried her should lose their job for fucking up such an obvious case of first degree murder I mean seriously, every other person she told police about where clearly either picked totally at random or completely fictitious, she didn't report her child missing, her mum did and you can hear the comparison on the 911 call Caseys mum is beside herself with worry, Casey could be talking about the weather to some complete stranger from her tone, totally unconcerned and just spouting her half baked but clearly well rehearsed lie, her reactions whenever people bring up Caylee compared to when they are talking to her about anything else, she is acting like people keep bringing up an ex that she is glad to be rid of and wishes people would stop asking her about, the fucking duct tape! Should have also charged her with conspiracy to commit as well, because then at bare minimum, they can present the argument of "well either you did it, or you are covering for someone, all the evidence points to those two things, but considering that everyone you have pointed the finger at is an outright fabrication, it's probably you"
@Louis Waze She had the responsibility for her child. Her explanations are bogus, it's not 'just' the lack of emotions, she is lying as fast as a horse can run! So manipulative to her parents. She is inventing people who doesn't exists. How would the jury not convict her on the basis of indicts? Thats crazy! Do they actually need solid proof to convict in the us? ´The state law supports the same rotten overprotective morals as her parents did. Omg that girl is dangerous. Hope she doesn't get more kids.
@gitte andersen this isn’t the issue, the problem then lies in the abuse of these powers: unlawful arrests, conspiracy arrests etc etc. I personally don’t believe opinions should be used as evidence as the people will therefore start being arrested due to a majority verdict and not the actual evidence being presented. Both sides have their benefits and negatives but indisputable evidence is the safest way to go when it comes to convicting the right people and that’s very hard to debate otherwise
@Louis Waze In general, I definitely do agree with you. But in some special cases the accused persons explanations totally lack common sense and in this case involves people who doesn't even exists and a dead child. Your right, it's not about opinions - but beside the hard evidence it's also about plausibility. I don't think she would go free where I come from. The problem with unlawful arrests and investigators who has the right to lie to people when they claim things that are not true - are a huge problem in my opinion. It diminishes the trust to the police as an authority. Not allowed for the police in Denmark. On the other hand - a lot of people here do think our verdicts are ridiculous low - for crimes like murder, rape, peadophilea and violence - me too.
@Davinator_peepo That's largely why she was acquitted , the prosecutor going for death penalty charges and the jurors refusing to kill a 25 year old woman.
AND.....destroyed her father's reputation in the process. She is one of the top MOST narcissistic, manipulative killers of all time. I will never understand how a jury could hear all the evidence (proof of all the lies she told), and still find her "not guilty". An innocent person does not have to lie, let alone tell multiple lies.
the crazy part is that she didn't even lie well, they literally knew from the first lie that she was making everything up, and she somehow still got away with it despite everyone seeing through her lies. Her mom even says "honey look me in the eyes" multiple times on the jail call, basically saying "I know you are lying to me". What a fucked up case, hard to imagine so many people involved in the prosecution/conviction could collectively drop the ball and allow this one to slip through the cracks. It's like the OJ trial all over again.
thats the entire thing, she didnt. all her lies were exposed and she admitted to them. she lied from the beginning. but the lawyer convinced it was a defense mechanis, my ass. as if working at universal studios helps in any fucking way.
I felt so bad for Cindy when I watched that trial. She loved that baby more than Casey did. I just wish she didn't try to protect Casey, but I think she was deep in denial.
One thing that really got to me was the talk with her parents when she said Caylee was so lucky then changed it to is so lucky as if she thought of darn did i just implicate myself. Like she realized the word she used made it sound like she spoke of her daughter as if she was dead and decided to change the word to sound like she spoke of her as being alive.
Now it makes sense why she got off. There is definitely more questions than answers. Obviously we know she did it but 12 jurors weren’t going to sentence her to death without knowing for sure how Caylee died. She knew there was no evidence and the interrogations were a waste a time. They allowed themselves to be shook by her calm demeanor and they were overly emotional. She had control so there was zero chance of a confession. I think she would have been convicted on lesser charges but the prosecution tried to get too much without enough evidence. This case makes me sick.
"...how glad I am that she's had both of you" does not imply that Casey knows the child is dead. That is something someone might say when a child has experienced something traumatic and the parent is glad for the love given to the child in the past. Something to be thankful for, considering the situation. We can also make a case that by emphasizing that "she IS lucky", Casey was just trying to reassure her parents that Caylee is still alive, for their own sake. Lot's of red flags in this case, but this one is very minor at best.
@Matt H But you wouldn't say that for a missing kid, you would say that only after the kid is found. I mean, you would say that after the traumatic event, not while it's happening. It needs a conclusion to make sense.
@Vincenzina Soós oh please are you really taking side with a person that waited one month to report that her child is missing ? This isn’t okay dude in any way possible
So does the grandpa have to do his own trial for the "3yr old drowning in the pool negligence" or the "penis in daughters mouth" thing or was the statute of limitations like 2 years or something? I don't understand how it was simply dropped after one trial, since "someone" murdered the 3 year old and hid the crime for 4+ weeks
Her parents throwing her a fake graduation party is crazy on multiple levels. They invited their friends and family over to give their daughter money for a accomplished she never made is sick. The kicker is they added that she was an honor student.
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Elisabeth Baker2022-04-02 20:28:39 (edited 2022-04-02 20:29:45 )
Whenever I see anything about this case, my heart fills with anger. Did Casey ever say "Caylee"? I heard her say "my daughter" and "she," but I don't believe she actually said "Caylee." Isn't that a sign of her guilt? IF Caylee drowned in the pool, why was there tape around her nose and mouth? Why would it be needed? I believe Casey gave Caylee too much "Zanny the Nanny." (Xanax) I also feel that this decision has convinced other deranged parents that they can get away with murdering their children as well. I will never understand how none of those jurors had reasonable doubt. The media has nothing to do with it. I'm basing my opinion on facts. Damn! I'm so angry!
If it was no decision jury locked, there would be. But double jeopardy you cant be tried twice. Thats why the menendez brothers were retried with a smarter jury.
It amazing how this woman is such a pro at lying that she can actually beat a murder when it’s obvious she’s guilty. I am not mad her . I am mad at the prosecutor and the jury and the system.
@oberts1711 you know what? I believe you. The prosecutors probably aimed too high with the amount of proof they had which probably wasn’t enough .So we probably would’ve came to the same decision as jury had we been part of that jury with the info given. SMH
@꧁ Orlando Cruz ꧂ no they insisted on going for murder which although we all know she did it. We cant PROVE. Ill describe the issue the jury had.
The prosection story they told the Jury had holes. The basicaly said casey left with the child in the car. At some point at an unknown locaton she killed the child using duct tape and then dumped the body.
This is a crazy.theory which brings more questions than answers.
The defense theory said "it was an accident she died in the pool and we panicked and hid the body"
To the jury tue defense story seemed more logical. All evidence presented could fit either theory but since the prosecution didnt give any specific evidence of why their theory was right the jury couldnt give a murder conviction.
The issues with the prosecution theory
1. There was evidence earlier for the jury to suspect the child died in the pool. The pool ladder being down which it shouldnt be.
2. The prosecution insisted casey used duct tape to kill caylee but its a illogical way to picture killing someone.
3. They cited position of duct tape near the skull as poof of murder. But the body was exposed for months and we have evidence it was underwater at points die to flooding. There is evidence wild animals eating the body moved it around. The man who found the body admitted to picking up the bag and the skull falling out. So duct tape ending up at a certain position on the skull means nothing due to how much the skull and body was moved.
4. the jury admitted aftet the defense story made more sense than the prosecution. They stated the prosecution didnt give an explanation of where the murder happended only it was outside the house and how she killed with duct tape.
The prosecution should have also brought lesser charges of neglect. Moving a corpse, manslaughter etc
Or at least come up with a logical story of casey putting her in the pool and walking off and letting her drown as there was evidence all trial the pool played a part and the murder by duct tape was fucking stupid nonsensical idea.
@roberts1711- thanks for that explanation. If everything happened the way you said than I also agree that I would’ve reached the same verdict. I am not going to send anyone to prison for life if I believed it was an accident or if the prosecutor didn’t convince me of their guilt. It must be beyond a reasonable doubt to convict. Thanks again for taking the time.
@roberts1711 Thank you for the information, but seriously, if it was an accident and she loved her child she would have atleast gave her a proper ‘funeral’ and bury her with due love and respect. The fact that they disposed of the body and the manner it was found in should tell any other jury enough.
@Michael Slack NOOO listen because youre slow. SHE CANT BE TRIED AGAIN FOR THAT CRIME. So if they found a video that shows her killing her daughter she cannot be tried for the murder of her daughter. It would be against her 5th amendment rights as an american citizen.
@MG if you Are found not guilty that’s it,new evidence or not you cannot be tried twice for the same crime. The only way around that is if they tried her on a federal charges now that the state has failed.
@Michael Slack the case can be reopened but they can’t charge Casey with murder again.... she was found not guilty. She can not be tried twice for the same murder if she was found not guilty. The only way to try her again would be if the other trial had a mistrial or she’d been found guilty and got a retrial on appeal.
@Jaimie completely agree and the jury did the right thing.... and even if she’d been found guilty and got the DP she would have won an appeal by now and definitely gotten off death row... the jury got it right considering the State couldn’t prove when, where, how, why Caylee was killed so you can’t sentence someone to death with out that. Unfortunately the State overcharged her and were too arrogant in believing they had the case in the bag.
@꧁ Orlando Cruz ꧂ exactly- but in this case she was up for the Death penalty- which is why the jury did the right thing. And even if she had been found guilty and gotten the death penalty there would’ve been an appeal and she’d be off Deathrow by now due to the lack of evidence from the state
@Michael Slack no. The prosecution claimed she was suffocated with duct tape. The defense said she drowned. So you find her not guilty of murder too. Interesting.
There's a revealing moment in the discussion from gaol with her parents when she refers to Caylee in the past tense (technically, the pluperfect) and then immediately corrects herself.
Any time I have ever seen Casey's face I get boiled with anger. I have two daughters that are everything to me and to think the one person that should love you does the unthinkable. Awful
I met a girl like Casey once, but was a cheater not a killer - here's the story:
It's amazing to see but it's more crazy to live it. When i went to college we had a group of friends and one of them met a girl somewhere. I went to my friend's house and she was there, they were dating and he intruduced her. For the next 7 months or so she became one more of our group of friends and everybody loved her. Everybody had several things in common with her, you could tell her you love apiculture and she would be like "yeah me too" and was convincing as hell. She went from the newbie to the center of attention in no time. She work at Carrefour and she would make something with the register so my friend could pass a whole full cart and pay just for a shampoo or something (we were broke, not his finest time but hey, she convinced him that was fine and no one will notice). They caught her ofc and fired her and even then she was like "Don't worry it was a shitty job, i'll find something else". 7 months go by and her and my friend went back to our hometown for the weekend i think and my friend's roommate uses his pc and I don't remember how but he find MSN logs of her talking to other 4 different dudes. He tells my friend and he confronts her, she denied every single thing and fabricated a story where my friend's roomate tried to hook up with her and she denied and didn't say anything because did not want to hurt my friend or some skizo thing like that, bonkers. My friend and his roommate are loyal best friends and he knew he wasn't the one lying and at that point he knew something was wrong with her and ended the relationship right there. The next time we all met we basically talk about her and everyone's statement was trully revealing, she played everyone of us like she wanted just to be liked as much as possible. My friend went to her house for the first time after all happenned to tell her parents (was clear at that point that some mental illness was going on) about her condition. Her brother, who knew nothing about my friend dating her, told him she's like this, that has been in mental institutions a couple of times before and he apologized to him for any harm she caused and the best thing he could do is just forget her and let it go. When my friend was telling us this he said that her brother demeanor was shame mixed with sadness and impotence, trully heartbreaking. In hindsight we discerned most of her lies and we can trully say that she didn't said the truth once to anyone, we felt like morons. No idea what was of her after this, she just dissappeared of everybody's life in my group.
@Final Steep my thinking exactly.. i write stories and because of my diagnosis (autism and ADHD) i am more creative and can actually act like i feel something even when i don't or when something doesn't interest me at all like if someone hurt themselves i'd still act like anyone else on the surface where as on the inside i'll be like : shut up about this so we can actually talk about something interesting. i can also lie pretty well as i've gotten out of situations most others would just accept mostly school related like how at our school camping trip i lied about the fact that i couldn't bike i can ride a bike just fine but the fact that i knew we would have to bike several miles a day to get to several places i knew i wasn't going to hold out on that one.. my legs and ass would be black and blue from soreness at the end of the 3 days.. (partially because of the saddle and partially from just being on my feet all the time.. i've always had issues where i can't stand or walk for too long and since i rarely bike at all my ass would be so sore i probably wouldn't be able to sit aferwards) so i put on my biggest worry face and went to the teacher to tell him i couldn't bike.. now parts of the story i told him were truths like how my mother made a huge fall on her bike when she was younger and at the time was still terrified to get on one.. so i told him that because of her fear they never taught me (even though my grandpa taught me the ropes and the rest i just did on my own wich was hard but it was mainly a can i do it or not kind of more mental thing) this is only one of the many times i've lied thing is when i do lie it's usually to not have to do something rather than lieing about not having done something when i really had done something..
I was like her. I could spin an intricate lie like nobody's business. I often lied for no reason. Until one day I met my wife. She could see right through me and called out all of my bullshit. One day I decided to tell her who I really was. All the ugly and all the horrible and the disappointing me. The real me nobody else sees. See saw me at my worst, but she still loved me. So I married her. One thing I learned lying all those years is this..no matter how good you are at making up excuses, the Truth is the best excuse.
@Taylor PeayNever said women couldn't be terrible. Look at the video we're watching. I was just making fun of that dude who says shit incels definitely say, whether he was joking or not. I though I was being pretty funny. Is that "cherishing the ground women walk on"? Of course putting them on a pedestal is ridiculous. So is thinking they're all psychos lol.
Did someone take my incel joke personally? I wonder who's more scared of an incel joke? Someone who will make one casually for a laugh, or someone who worships the ground other incels walk on? Nice little jump I made there, sound familiar? Projection indeed.
I had a girlfriend like this once. I just couldn't stop getting flashbacks of her when listening to Casey. My ex had triple life with 3 different men and wouldn't stop lying even when presented with undeniable proofs. People like this really exist in the wild and you wouldn't know because of how excellent their lying skills are.
I used to lie the same way as a young kid/teenager. In her case it's because she's a sociopath trying to cover her tracks. In my case it was because I was afraid of being punished, and afraid of not fitting in, so I would create elaborate lies to either get people to like me, or to get out of stupid little things. It only stopped when a friend of mine finally sat down with my parents and started listing off things I had said to find out if they were true or not. I came home to find him chatting with them, and they ended up calling me out on a lot of my lies. My friend then told me that I didn't need to lie to him for him to like me or think I was cool. He already thought I was cool without the lies. From that day forward the lying slowly died out and today it's almost non-existent apart from the odd little white lie we all tell once in a blue moon.
@Zzz S Yeah, when he said he was going to go to her house to talk to her parents we asked him why bother, and he said there's other three dudes out there thinking they just found the love of their lives and he needed to do something for them and for her to seek help. He went to her house and his roomate (the one that found the msn logs) actually contacted them vía msn and explained the whole ordeal to them. Very very awkward situation overall.
@Luke Sargent an occasional lie is okay? you sound like a citizen bro, not it isn't a problem, yes it is a talent though not a positive one, t lie on the spot so quickly an convincingly means the right side of your min (creative, on the spot thinking) is more than healthy. Where the problems lie is when people started using that for bad, then claim poor mental health when they knew what they was doing.
@Marcin Widz I couldn't stop having flashbacks of my ex who had the very same story as your ex. What did you learn from this relationship and didn't you notice the same traits in the next partner?
I'm a pathological liar. It comes surprisingly easy. I'm trying to get better to make sure I don't hurt anyone with my lies. I don't know if this was the same case with Casey, but I lie casually in everyday life, even when I don't need to. It becomes a reflex after some time.
I worked with one of the jurors for many years. We were in Tampa, that's where jury was pulled from. He told me that very quickly all the jurors agreed something bad had happened, but all agreed they did not know what? In addition, part of the judges instruction for Murder 1 stated a cause of death of homicide was mandatory, the prosecution NEVER proved a cause of death, many theories but no cause. Without a cause of death, defense never had to mount a case, it was over when prosecution rested. His opinion, they overcharged her with what they could prove.
It means she was of sound mind whenever she killed her daughter/had someone kill her. Which is beyond fucking terrifying and sickening. I can't even stand looking at pictures of this woman because she just gives me the creeps.
When talking to her parents, she said "(I am really grateful) that she's had both of you as grandparents" and then corrected to "she has both of you as grandparents"
Isn't that insinuating that she knows her child is no more....
The fact that her best friend Christine on the phone sounded more like a mother really suffering, beggin for answers about the little girl, is heartbreaking... i feel so sorry for her...
When she said, "wow this is a waste" when her best friend is saying "if anything happened to that little girl I'm going to die!" I honestly lost my mind. How can any mother respond like that about their own little girl?
@Haze The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
Girl drowned in a pool, okay. To go 31 days, just living up life at bars, smoking weed ETC. Then you get questioned, lie about almost everything multiple times...Odd internet search history...and get found guilty on absolutely nothing? That's amazing
hard to believe Mr. Anthony was once a cop.. Funny she gave the nanny the name of Zanny , the street name for Xanax. GHB was huge in the club scene back then ( ask me how I know?). i know they checked for chloroform but i wonder if they ever considered GHB -something about that Tony guy that that gives me bad vibes
The prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
The jurors that have come out and spoken have had the general consensus if they went based on feelings, extremely guilty. But, the evidence wasn’t presented to vote guilty on the charges given.
@MystiKasT , there have been cases before where they were convicted and have stayed that way. No.. The jury went in there looking for any reason to let the "tight bodied hot mess" off as much as what you are saying. There is even a highly decorated ex-Marine serving life on less than what this prosecution had... in one of the worst states to convict someone without a body as well.. Virginia. Simple truth.. that jury wanted to let her get away with murder, and they will be held accountable for it eventually too. if they aren't already by people who know them.
I watched this trial. Jose Baetz is a badass defense attorney. He was able to establish doubt in the jurors minds. You must convict beyond reasonable doubt. And that was part of the reason why the jury found her not guilty.
@David C Bad parenting is bad, but it's not a crime. "My parents raised me wrong" is not a valid defense. You can't just pass the blame onto your parents for your own egregious acts. The only reason the parents would be held accountable is if they had direct knowledge of her acts and neglected to report it, and in some states even that is not a punishable offense.
@MystiKasT That's absolute nonsense. The duct tape and search history combined are undeniable evidence of premeditation with the intent to kill. You don't search for a way to suffocate someone merely to cause them harm, let alone "FOOLPROOF" suffocation, and use of duct tape contradicts a crime of passion done in the heat of the moment, if indeed such a crime can even be committed against a 3 year old. She wasn't strangled, she was suffocated which is a passive act that takes time. 1st degree murder was a completely reasonable charge. The failure lies with the jury.
@Lord Maliscence Moreover, in most cases the type of childhood trauma/neglect/coddling (etc) which causes a person to develop these personality flaws is rarely similar to said flaws. In other words, you don't usually get a cold-hearted, selfish, neglectful person like Casey from a cold-hearted, selfish, neglectful parent. Rather, Casey cares only for herself because she was raised in a way that re-affirms her importance over all others. Make no mistake, an over-nurtured, coddled, you-do-no-wrong environment can be just as toxic for development as one of neglect. But that's less obvious to people, and the idea of it being a crime is laughable.
I mean, we've only really scratched the surface of this kind of psychology in the past few decades, and the VASTLY overwhelming majority of the population are suffering though unhealthy cycles from unresolved childhood experiences, without even an inkling that it's happening. Good, well-intentioned parents fuck up their children all the time. If not understanding that is a crime, we should probably all be in jail.
She wasnt overcharged, plenty of evidence, especially with the computer searches about which the mother lied on the stand, and the duct tape. Like they lied about the abuse. the jury simply did not want to convict her, because she would likely get the death penalty. That is also why parents lied for her. Death penalty is bad for justice, makes people do stupid shit and doubt when it is completely UNREASONABLE.
@JAMBERRY, what is most incredible, though, is that you don't care one bit she so blatantly displayed Dark Triad personality behavior (which killers always display), and go for the "you're a racist capitalism male scumbag" vitriol.. with no real argument at all.
@JAMBERRY , actually, the fact she so actively conceal her daughter's being dead, how she totally deceived her family and law enforcement.. right down to a rehearsed story trying to blame a "immigrant woman" (since you HAD to bring "racism" into this....) says otherwise.
Again, all offense, there are many people who are justly in prison on less evidence than was in this case. The very arguments you are making (about feelings) are the only reason she is a free woman. That jury had no reason whatsoever to give her that much benefit of the doubt.
Also, all offense again, there are many times that the Innocence Project has also abandoned cases when they learn the person is really guilty... those just don't make for good sound bites. You only hear what you want. because you need to believe in the "evils of" our justice system. I get it: we are all scum and deserve to die according to you We get it. You didn't get "Fair in your favor" in life. Sorry that is how the world works, but stop blaming one country. Stop making all Americans "great Satans" against the ideology you falsely believe will "save the world". It isn't going to happen. A great big "collective hug" and "trusting in the better nature of man" is a lie.
You believe in an altruism that doesn't exist. I see humans for what we are: incapable of being good without a system to bring the hammer down when it is deserved. Most of those "innocent" people are in no ways "totally innocent". Some are.. but most of the time.. they either end up in prison for things they did and didn't get caught doing,, or as amplification for things they did and up to that point got slapped on the wrist for. You far out people call that "karma", don't you? There is room for forgiveness.. but not forgetting.. and people like you think that even cold blooded killers should "get away with it" if a jury "just doesn't feel it is true".
You put a lot of hyperbole into your words.. but facts tell a different story. You want to get away with something yourself.. so you cheer from the side lines hoping you will get off like she did.. and we both know it.
@Eshajori naw man, abused kids are more likely to be Borderline Personally, Sociopath, etc, than non abused kids. Being spoiled to Casey's degree isn't much better...
@David C highly disagree with your opinion. We've all been kids. My parents did everything they could to try and raise me right. In the end my stubborn ass just didn't care and I always just did whatever I WANTED TO DO. despite all the teaching they gave me. Granted I didn't grow up to kill anyone so they're parenting must have worked atleast a little. My point is it doesn't matter how much of a good Job parents do raising thier kids...it helps but doesn't mean that kid will grow up an angle. That's on the kid not on the parents. Parents can show you the path but it's up to the kid to decide which path he/she will take.
Well she could not be proven guilty BEYOND a reasonable doubt so the jury did right. Who else than she could know what actually happened. She could have just accidentally killed her or due to neglience and it's pretty normal for people to cover up their fuckups. Well normal people probably wouldn't cover up their fuckup if it causes their own kid's death but since she didn't give a shit about her child this could very well be the case. Murder charge in a situation like this is way too risky with so little evidence and a major fuckup from the prosecution.
@luuk v It does not happen all the time. Look, this shit happens, and in this case and the OJ Simpson trial, they both should've been locked up for life, and I'm sure it does happen outside of big, broadcasted cases such as these, but to claim that the system is just leaking guilty people back out onto the streets all the time is a gross exaggeration. Not to mention, our justice system is set up the way it is to mitigate the potential of sending innocent people away for crimes they didn't commit, and to keep from exposing them to the trauma/horror of prison, and potentially creating more criminals when they get out of prison/jail. To quote William Blackstone: "It is better to let ten guilty people go free than to let one innocent person suffer wrongful conviction" (this is paraphrasing, obviously, but it still gets the idea across)
Well, the next time you get a jury notification do the right thing and serve. It is so easy to cast blame, yet people look down on the process. It's a civic responsibility. I did my time and while I wouldn't volunteer for it again, I took what I had to do very seriously.
@Daniel Schneider Pretty much what you said. The prosecution was entirely to blame in this case, it's not that "our justice system is flawed bruh it needs reformed so cases like this don't happen anymore." More like our prosecutors need to be better trained and more equipped for gathering the proper evidence to utilize against the accused. People are so quick to cast blame on our justice system, but then forget that that same justice system also put nutjobs like Chris Watts, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Jodi Arias, Jeffrey Dahmer, etc. away. A vast majority of the time in cases like this, the prosecution does an excellent job of presenting the evidence and a solid case against the person that cements their guilt. They just failed in this case. And because of that, a 95% more than likely guilty person gets to walk free and not be tried for this crime again.
But of course. As Gervais always said, let's stop asking the general public their opinion. Why in the world a verdict shouldn't be a technical work.
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Carlos Oliveira2021-06-09 23:04:12 (edited 2021-06-10 01:30:12 )
Sadly, Caylee did not receive justice in this case, but this was not the jury's fault, it was the prosecution's. They went after a first-degree murder conviction, but there just wasn't enough evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in court. They made the rookie mistake of over-charging beyond what they could reasonably prove, and the defendant walked away scott-free. Had they pursued a less serious charge of second-degree murder or negligent homicide, they may have gotten a conviction.
The jury wasn’t nuts, the defence attorney had them by the balls & the prosecution messed up. They should’ve tried to convict her on a charge that they could prove beyond reasonable doubt, such as negligent homicide. Casey’s blatant disregard for her daughter’s life in every aspect of this case would have been enough to prove negligence & the duct tape found on her corpse could been used to prove homicide. As much as I hate the outcome of the case, he did a fantastic job. Also once you realize law isn’t actually about justice & is simply a game of loopholes, it’ll make more sense to you. For the record I think Casey did it.
I'm not quite sure how to feel about this defense lawyer. I have a lot of respect for the profession in general; it takes a brave person to defend someone you know is guilty. But basing your case entirely on the emotional appeals of a pathological liar? The pool narrative? The abuse narrative? Ad hominem against the State? He did a bang-up job, gosh darnit, but I feel like that went beyond his duty to uphold truth and justice.
@Innertuber40 according to his book, all of that was a shot in the dark to garner sympathy for Casey. He knew about the firefox search history that showed she was looking for ways on strangulation. The defense was waiting for prosecutors to present it.
The problem is the defense is all like this is an innocent woman when in reality she is still prime suspect and guilty of murder of her daughter but there was (arguably)not enough evidence to convict her.
@Toekaan ... Because not everyone brought to trial is so obviously guilty, and the only people who will ever know the 100% truth (including intentions) are the parties involved? We have a jury as an attempt at an objective perspective of the given events. It just doesn't always work out. That's no reason to go all Judge Dread though, tough guy.
@Daniel Schneider Yes, you explain it well. Just to add... Don't blame the defence lawyers, they were also doing their job. They made their statements and asked their questions in the court. If their conduct is not acceptable, the judge and the prosecution should have objected. The defence don't need to prove nor believe that the defendant is innocent. Their job is only to raise reasonable doubt in the minds of 12 people. Our justice system errs on both sides, there are plenty of innocent people in the prisons too. If we don't want guilty people to walk free, we have to reduce the burden of proof, which means also more innocent people will end up in prisons.
When she's talking to her mom through the video thing is fantastic. "You dont have to look at the camera, look at me" is some boomer shit. Watching her get annoyed with her mom not understanding how the camera works, rather than being upset about her daughter, makes it so obvious. She could have at least tried to look innocent.
I remembered when I used to hear guys talk about how hot she was. It made me sick that they could be turned on by someone who murdered her child & tried to cover it up like a true psychopath.
You guys know this massively nationally televised case happened 10 years ago? I don't think the no spoilers rule applies, lol.. And yeah, we are all disgusted by her. : /
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She got the best lawyer in the world. Plus the media being biased against her made people think that she was being treated unfairly. It's like a "Donald Trump effect."
When the mass media starts assassinating someone's character everyday people see that as unfair and take that someone's side. Had the media kept quiet, surely she would be condemned as guilty.
@Shrek 5ever actually the jury hated Casey, too. they thought she was a disgusting person and a terrible mother, but they said they simply could not say "beyond a reasonable doubt"
@el SunShine The only lack of evidence was the fact that no DNA or print tests were done to the tape on the dead child's head. So if she was innocent(unlikely) does that mean a sadistic killer is out there somewhere? My long experience of life has taught me one thing ,the game of Courts is played by those with the most money ,those who can buy their innocence and a determination of innocence has nothing to do with the the guilt of the defendant.
I know. I ended up watching the trial, all police interviews of all folks interviewed etc. I spent weeks on it and I am just as angry as I was to start with lol
I think the interrogators messed up. They got so pissed by her lying that they didn't setup a thing to get a confession like they do in the other videos
@Novascotia Skater Neither is relevant. They convict based on the evidence. There was no evidence of murder, so they didn't convict her of murder. They did their job as they were supposed to.
@Bag Tv The only people sitting in jail for that long over "some weed" are lifetime drug dealers who sell destruction to families and communities. It costs nothing to not be a drug dealer and nobody is going to prison for 15 years for smoking a joint.
EXACTLY THIS WOMAN IS EVIL! Her actions were callous and calculated and she demonstrated time and time again she could care less about her own friends or more importantly her very own family. She openly murdered her daughter, expressed satisfaction in doing so, proved she is manipulative and disingenuous to everyone around her, and got away with her. I looked her up because I was so mad and apparently she lives somewhere in west palm beach and people who recognize her throw drinks at her still.
Wait none of you really recall this being live many many years ago none of you were following this treachery and massive twist ending in real life??!!;
@Growing with Anastasia some people just don't fall into the media hoopla and follow things, I never gave a crap about it and watched this video and I'm beyond pissed and confused
One hour? Bro the people who followed this case spent months praying she would be found guilty. I know I was glued to my phone waiting for a guilty verdict. Bitch got off free and I was PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!
Yeah but that's the beauty (disgust) of our justice system there has to be evidence and they jumped the gun on this one and she got away. Also our jury is actually taking it seriously now. When the Lawyers know it's a game.
Not gonna lie, after about 20 minutes, i was like "this bitch is deplorable and guilty as fuck" so skipped to the end. Glad i saved myself some time, at least.
I mean if you think about it... Sure she acted really weird and lied about a lot of things. But there was no actual proof that she had killed her daughter. So in a way, I respect the judge's decision even though I probably wouldn't think that way myself if I was the judge. I just appreciate that we have people who can make objective decisions.
Same I could not belive it. According to Google she is still living in Florida and in an interview in 2019 she apparently wants to have another kid. I really hope she does not have another child. This made me so mad.
I remember when the news reported she was looking into adoption and I was sick to my stomach. Even if no agency would match her the very thought is disgusting.
yeah im 25 minutes in and im stopping for that reason. as it kept going i knew this would only end with me being angry and upset and i didnt want that. so sad
@Kryzs Kornhell Didnt her lawyer say that her daughter drowned in the pool ? If so shouldn't she at least be found guilty of neglect ? And if that is the case it would still be her fault that her daughter's dead.
@Marko Bighead Evidence or not it doesn't mean she's not really guilty. Besides she told her lawyer that her daughter drowned in the pool so why hasn't she been charged with negligence. And if that was really what happened then it's still her fault her daughter is dead.
@Love To Be Here Sure, but courts don't work on "well we have no evidence but she, like, is just so totally obviously guilty, man". Courts exist to dole out sentencing based on the evidence. No evidence, no sentence. If that's true, her daughter could've gotten into the pool for any number of reasons. Not every accidental child death is due to negligence, therefore this would still be circumstantial without any other details regarding the death.
Not to mention, even documented negligence often goes unpunished, usually for no reason other than pure emotion. It's very obvious that any way you slice it, the McCanns are responsible for Madeleine McCann's death through intent or sheer negligence, but since the former hasn't been proven and the latter is ignored just because of their crocodile tears, they have become millionaires thanks to their dead child even though it is a documented fact that their child disappeared or died through negligence in the absolute best case scenario.
Casey Anthony is disgusting and ridiculous as a so called mother and the jury was dumb enough to believe the BS story her and her lawyer made up to get her off when she is as guilty as hell. No mother would lie and allow their child to go missing for a month and not call the police unless they knew the child was dead and she was the one who killed her.
@el SunShine and the prosecution shouldn’t have went for the death penalty when they couldn’t say how or where she died- they offered chloroform and the tape as different options but…🤷🏻♀️
@Susanne Collins I don't know anything about anything but this makes a lot of sense. I know the burden of evidence has to be the same for a death sentence as it is for a life sentence, but I just know that me personally, I'd not be able to convict someone to death unless I absolutely knew for a fact they did this heinous crime. I feel pretty strongly that she did it. Idk if I feel strongly enough to be the one signing her death warrant. I'd send her to prison for life tho—if I'm wrong they'll appeal it and it'll come out at some point. But I know that's fallacious and the bar must be the same.
@Saira _ thanks for the heads up. I’m hooked in now and have to finish. Even though I’ll spend the rest of the day wound up. Just hope she gets her comeuppance one day. 🇬🇧
imagine how it felt seeing the case unfold live and the majority of america knowing shes guilty and then the jury saying not guilty. the jury even got death threats for it
I know all about this case and still watched it. I wanna do so much damage to her it’s crazy. I still can’t believe she got away with this when there are people sitting in prison who are innocent snd was convicted with WAY less evidence!
@Bag Tv i love this argument so much, 15 years over some weed! Without mentioning it was "some" kilograms, with the intention to distribute, in an US state with 3 strike laws while the convicted was already sentenced twice for drug dealing...
@Ukraino TV You sound obsessed and afraid of people affiliated with a particular political party in the United States. Please seek help with a mental health professional in your area or online as soon as possible. Cult behavior always leads to violence..
@Andie Crayons They're making me feel ancient. I'm less than 3 years younger than Casey so I was an adult too. I remember this case blasted everywhere. There was nothing so widely publicized since Jon Bennet (and I was a kid for that one ).
@Growing with Anastasia Same… I was at most a teenager when this happened with no interest in true crime and I heard of it. It was the most controversial case at the time.
I made it up to 56:25 and realized she was going to walk free. genuinely can't watch anymore. i'm horrified at the world and especially at the american justice system.
@Mercmad there´s no other killer out there. They admited, they wittnesed the child´s death in the pool. So she basicaly confessed she put her child´s body in that swamp..I believe that duct tape should be key evidence, there is no reason to choke dead body.
I feel like the only reason Caylee is dead right now, is that Casey was used to being the center of everyones attention, and suddendly she wasn't. So she took out the competition, aka her daughter.
Edit after rewatching this again: How badly was her body decomposed? it says skeletal remains, so I'm guessing really badly. Could rape still be visible? if it's just bone, I don't think so but if there was any organic material left. Casey was at her boyfriends house, on drugs, atleast weed. Casey is the last person to see her alive, and I understood that she went to His boyfriends, since they were filmed together soon after. But what if it was Her boyfriend who sexually assaulted Caylee and killed Her? Ducktape on the mouth and nose to keep her from screaming and thus dying? Casey isn't right in the head, but I don't know enough to know if this possibility was investigated, since everyone jumped on Casey being responsible (she still is, but to what), which is understandable. But if she was at the boyfriends house this whole time, it's a possibility as well. The proof of that is impossible to get if the assault didn't break any bones and She was just skeletal remains when they found Caylee, and no semen or anything else present in the blanket or laudry bag. It seems like she was naked, in a blanket inside a laundry bag. That would also point towards sexual abuse. The decaying smell and hair (according to wikipedia) found in Caseys car would make sense, if they / he used her car to get rid of the body. Just speculation and having read multiple cases from all around the world, I would not be surprised. young people, on drugs (even alcohol or weed, not necessarily meth or anything), who knows what they can do. If Casey was just dumbly in love with the guy and didn't want to get Him in trouble by telling on him?
And it’s a case of a flawed system. With enough manipulation and charisma of the attorney and the jury (WHICH COULD BE ANYONE. EVEN WITHOUT HIGH EDUCATION or knowledge in law and criminology whatsoever!!!) can decide the future of someone. Whether innocent or guilty. In this case, a guilty cold bitch
@Cartswhat Maybe some of the most dominant persons in the jury were strongly anti death penalty, so they would have said "not guilty" even if she had cut the neck of her daughter on live video and bragged about it... and then they managed to convince the rest...
Exactly. Anyone good with words can manipulate the world. Reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes. She manipulated the whole world including the big ppl up top with high education and wealth.
This plays almost like the OJ trial. The only difference is that as time went on, his son had a lot of evidence (circumstantial or otherwise) against him as well. I doubt anyone but Casey will ever know the full truth on this one.
Really dude? That’s a bit of a stretch. Amber Heard is an asshole but she is not completely evil like this woman
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John Padgett2022-06-11 17:22:38 (edited 2022-06-11 18:21:11 )
At first I think, I feel so bad for her parents. I couldn’t imagine having my daughter and grand daughter living with me for 2 years, then all of a sudden my granddaughter is just gone, missing. When he said the house is empty without them, and I feel the pain. But, but, then I realize they have let their daughter get away with so much all her life. From dropping out of high school senior year while living at home, to o mainly not taking their granddaughter whenever Casey can’t watch her,then to letting 30 days go without asking. They are guilty as bad parents, Casey must’ve felt they weren’t welcome, why didn’t they offer to adopt? And now they give all this care, where was that care when Casey w was out partying and avoiding her daughter to the neglect area
She is emotionless. She was a spoiled child, that thought that she will get anything she wants by any means, and she did. That is the frustrating part, a beautiful child was killed and she get away with that.
@Yevgeniya Leshchenko When you give your child a graduation party, but you know clearly that she has been expelled due to absences, this is called spoiling the child. Do not get me wrong! I have a little girl of almost 3 years old, for whom I would give my life, I would sell my soul to the devil so that she would be good, But .... I know how to put a barrier to her when she crosses the line between innocence spoiling and wickedness, I know how to give her love, respect, good values and morals. 🙏
She takes xanax, Thats why she behaves like that. I have theory that when she was taking on the case she would take xanax. And xanax if abused describes her personality flawlessly.
I myself take Xanax and when I abuse it I become just like her. Calm, Arrogant, Not giving fuck, Feeling invincible. People who abuse xanax or benzodiazepines get crazy ideas like robbing, Killing, and just ideas that are crazy. They should test her for Benzodiazepines.
I am really faithful in my theory if its true that she takes Xanax according to video I saw on youtube. Xanax hade role in the killing of her child. Also in interview she says she sleeps well and does not give a f about it.
I don't understand how it's possible.... Whole video I was waiting to see how she got caught and proven to be guilty.... The end of the story is just insane...Devil's advocate knows his job though
34:45 I didn’t realise this: at this point she’s arrested for murder? Yet she’s having a conversation with a detective as if they’re having coffee or bumped into each other at the shops!
The vibe is super weird. She should be demanding to get out; to please find her daughter, saying “what am I doing here? Why are you wasting time?” But, guilty & as a sociopathic manipulator, she’s trying to charm the detective. As if in her stupid head she thinks this’ll work…..
This cop was dead on about who Casey was, an absolute callus monster!! I cannot believe the jury was brain dead enough to find this freak not guilty!!! I hope & pray karma & justice finds her & the authorities don't do a thing to find who would rid the world of this monster
@wubenn you really missed the point of the video if you didn’t see the part where they literally don’t have 100% evidence that she did it. That’s what’s required by law technically. The old guy towards the end shaming the media and lawyers giving their unwarranted opinion was 100% correct. Whether she did it or not the way it blew up was a fucking nightmare for trying to get justice. Had the media not been so up the case’s ass, it might’ve never come to this.
@Rev You are not required 100% evidence you are required evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. You can never have 100% evidence. Even if someone is caught on tape they could say that the tape was digitally edited or like in another case say the police told them to say it for fame on youtube and by that claim you could never beyond any doubt have 100% certainty that they were lying. But you could reasonably not believe it. The key word is reasonable. The reason why she got away is because the jury was foolish to believe you had to have 100% evidence like you do.
It’s because she knows she’s guilty and was shocked to hear not guilty!
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Joseph N2022-06-04 23:41:51 (edited 2022-06-04 23:42:15 )
What’s sad is she; (at least for now), has won, and her manipulative nature has won out over those dumb jurors. Thankfully, justice will come to her one day through the Lord himself! 🤷🏻♂️💯😏
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Many Americans don't know how court works. All her lawyers had to do was cast a doubt on any detail of the storyline the prosecutor presents to the jury. These types of cases are win-able if the prosecutor has to fill-in any unknown/unclear details combined with an energetic well paid defense. Court system is quite hack-able for some while being a prejudice steam roller for others
The Prosecution lost that case due to arrogance.... it was a huge lesson for district attorneys across the country to not overcharge due to being cocky. There is no way any jury was going to sentence her to the Death Penalty when the Prosecution could not show how, when, where and why Caylee died....given all of her pathological lies I understand why the State was so confident but they got caught up in what the media was spewing instead of the reality of the case facts they actually had!
@Kur čina I agree just based on how contrasting the prosecution and defense's statements were in this video. I personally think the case should be reopened, but that will require clear evidence to prove what we know happened, just by gut feeling and an hour long piece.
@Kur čina Yes. When you get called for the jury you're sworn in just like everyone else & you have to agree to look at everything equally & fairly, regardless how you feel about the case. If there was no physical evidence against her then the jury did their job in keeping everything equal. I bet that many in the jury were against her, but they couldn't be fair in prosecuting her. That's probably why the case will never be reopened. Everyone hates her so it wouldn't be a fair trial.
@Rainz Storm at least I understand "how to turn on a pc", like you do. Now, I wonder if you understand how to wire up and solder and design a plasma core based off aurduino.
@Meme Man Are you kidding me? You really comparing these two? "how to use a PC" with "wire up and solder and design a plasma core based off aurduino", some logic please. So you must know how to survive in Mars i suppose, or know what is outside of the bound of universe, who create god? I really clapping for you smart man.
@Rainz Storm It is the same. You are basing moral judgement ability off of subjective knowledge of electronics. Therefore, based on your logic, the more technologically proficient, the better judge of moral character.
@Meme Man With your logic , no wonder why she is not guilty after she killed her own child, people busy showing off their skills in this world but forgot the simplest logic, you've just proved how that could be happened, good job for you.
@Rainz Storm nothing you just said actually means anything LMAO I just took your logic to its natural conclusion. The real question is, why are YOU relating the ability to judge moral character to being able to turn a PC on or off. THAT makes no sense, so I took it and ran with it.
@Meme Man Well, tell me why she keep lying and explain what she wrote then, basing on moral judgement? It was about learning her psychological expression and unfit evidences she provided, smart man, you must be rich to be a lawyer, sell your soul to evil.
@Meme Man Based on the result of this case, what is so surprise if the juror in the court are someone who doesn't know how to turn on a PC? You never see people that dumb? If they've done their research properly, ask her why she lied about everything and wrote down that note, how she behaved, apparently they didn't, they just believed what she made up of. So this is why i said that.
@Rainz Storm Wether or not they can operate a PC has zero bearing on their judgement in the case. YOU made that egotistical connection, and I pointed out that there is always another level above what you may think is smart.
@Rainz Storm you can't deny her lawyer was a very good liar. All I'm saying is that there are intricate smart liars who can fool even smart people. I didn't mean to disrespect you.
@Meme Man You really don't see the point do you? Just think about people not using internet today, they totally living in a lie without noticing anything, and the people who searching on the internet for the first hand evidences, know much better about this world, don't you agree? Of course there have fake videos, fake news, but usually people do realize it real quick just like people know who really running this world, why Biden became a president of United State, something like that.
"Wether or not they can operate a PC has zero bearing on their judgement in the case. " I dare you say it twice.
@Novascotia Skater I wouldn’t have given her the death penalty either, but because I believe the death penalty should be only given when there is 100% of certainty the accused is guilty (usually through dna or footage). With her case, I’m only 99,99% sure.
@Rainz Storm I do want to make a point that the internet is full of lies- you can get conflicting results on anything you search, as well as the fact that humans are behind any written word, so again, most articles are full of mistruths.
The ability to search and find information does not equal the ability to judge morality or truth, as you have to know how to use the info in that framework. Some of the stupidest people you'll meet will be on the internet, because they spend time on websites like CNN and Buzzfeed and tiktok and Facebook and instagram, which is full of useless filler sensationalist crap.
It still comes down to basic judgement. Computers are nothing special, just a different information medium.
@Meme Man Of course, lies everywhere on any platforms, in front of your eyes, that's what they say, but the point is, do you think this video is a lie? The law meant to be protecting innocent people, not the evil one, at least they should not allow the suspect walk free until making clear every lies she told, isn't it better? What a broken system.
@Dinsss if I was on that jury I would have voted her guilty just to hang the jury. That way the prosecution could have retried and been sensible about what they charged her with. Maybe that's not exactly ethical but justice probably would have been served.
The problem with her trial was EVERYONE knew she was guilty. But of what? Did she directly kill her? Have someone else do it? Cover up a conspiracy after the fact?
No one knew the details, so you can't charge with any ONE specific thing because there is reasonable doubt it could be the other. The prosecutors should have given every possible charge and even charges that cover all of them at once, but they didn't. That's why she got off.
Very bad jurors. Ms. Ford, a juror, gave interviews and I want to know how a person as dumb as a box of rocks gets selected as a juror, including the rest of the jurors.
@Rainz Storm But if you had jurors searching the internet for "first hand evidences" and getting that much info and involvement with the case, aren't they supposed to excuse themselves from the jury panel before being chosen as a juror due to already having knowledge of the case?
@Tyler B Not saying they could find every evidences on internet, what i mean is what decision they had made let people think they let her got off all her lies easily which still doesn't make any sense even now, at least lies in a murder investigation is a crime that could put her in jail, why i said murder not homicide or accident, see what she wrote and what she did after her kid gone missing, she was having fun and feeling the greatest moment in her life, wtf.
@Tyler B Which make me feel that they didn't look at all the evidence, if they had and still found her not guilty, what can i say? I must be wrong, they were right about it, she didn't act, she didn't lie, she didn't kill her kid.
as some people in this discussion already pointed out : the major issue here is that the prosecution's case wasn't solid enough. Several members of the jury that acquitted her have spoken out and said they were angry about having to acquit her, but the prosecution just hadn't provided enough DIRECT evidence for them to pronounce her guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". So here's the bottom line : everyone knows she did it, because of course she did, but the criminal investigation was botched/rushed and that's why she didn't get convicted for it.
@MJ You missing the point, point is everyone including jury knew she is guilty and they drop all charges. And iam sory to tell you, but this has nothing to do with justice or with the law it's just loop hole in system. There were evidence not direct one, but pretty damn good one if you take in count on huge evidence like she waited 30 days just to cover up things. System that allow this has nothing to do with civilized society or justice, it's just perversion. Jurors can justify their decision as they want, but in the end they let murderer go and they KNEW IT, that's not fault of prosecution that's on their heads. This makes me really sick.
@ufiCz I can totally understand why you're angry at how the case went and that the US justice system allowed it. But please, hear me out on this one. There is a law in the USA against double jeopardy : you can't be tried more than once for the same crime. It's great, because it protects people from "legal harassment", but it's a double edged sword : when putting someone on trial, you have to be SURE you have what you need to get them convicted. What's required is DIRECT evidence, indirect evidence alone doesn't cut it. The prosecution needed to be able to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt (and that's super important), that Casey Anthony herself suffocated her daughter. Her behaviour at least makes her guilty of gross negligence, but she was on trial for murder, not negligence. There was a lot of indirect evidence against Casey, which could have been direct evidence for negligence, BUT NOT for murder. At the moment of the trial, there was no direct evidence placing Casey Anthony in the scene of her daughter's death. There might have been some, but at the moment of the trial, nothing had been found YET, which is why I said the prosecution should have waited. They had no direct evidence, they hoped she'd get convicted for murder on only indirect evidence, but the jury said they can't do that. And sadly, they're actually right. Their job was to decide whether or not it's absolutely certain that Casey did it, based on the evidence they had, and it just wasn't. Was there evidence that she's a garbage mom guilty of gross negligence? Yes. Was there evidence that she considered to kill Caylee or had begun plotting it? Yes. Was there evidence she ACTUALLY did it? No. And again, the prosecution could have waited for the investigation to bring any amount of direct evidence, but they didn't. That's why she's free today.
@Alyssa Schneeberger - these are all technicalities - there is no other explanation that makes any sense, other than she did it, and with malicious intent. There is really no physical proof that Hitler killed anyone either, anymore than Casey did, but there is far more to tie Casey directly to the crime than there is for Hitler to the deaths that resulted from his leadership. Show me evidence that Hitler ever killed anyone. You can't, but we all know damn well you would convict him in a court if you had the opportunity. The problem now is the selective definition of "proof" we use, to get obvious criminals off, and all that we ignore as "not proof", such as her attitude, her lack of concern all through the investigation, and the 31 days she was missing. But we can't use any of that as evidence, because of sheer technicality.
@MJ probably I was just in shock she's 💯 guilty how she got off with it I'll never know. All documentaries I've seen with American police they nail everyone inocent or guilty how they let this slip is suspicious to say the least. She's an absolute monster
@Bobs Building it's actually pretty easy. She was on trial for murder. The evidence they had against her was all indirect, nothing was placing her "beyond a reasonable doubt" in the scene suffocating her daughter. They had evidence against her for gross negligence, for sure, maybe even for plotting her daughter's murder, just not for COMMITTING said murder. That's why the jurors had to acquit her, there was no direct evidence at the moment of the trial. Several jurors even said they were angry to have to let her go, because she JUST IS guilty, everyone knows it, but there was no direct evidence. The problem is the law against double jeopardy : when you put someone on trial, you better make sure you have enough evidence to get them convicted. The prosecution should have waited until they had any direct evidence before going on trial, but they didn't and hoped the jury would pronounce her guilty based on all the indirect evidence. But the jury actually did their job correctly : because there was no direct evidence placing Casey in the scene suffocating her daughter, they said they can't pronounce her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Ultimately, the lack of patience on the prosecution's side, and/or the lack of a solid enough criminal investigation, made Caylee never get justice. Maybe, if she had been tried for gross negligence instead/on top of murder, she would have stayed in prison for longer, because the evidence collected might have been enough for that. It's an infuriating story, for sure.
@MJ Again you missing point and you actualy are wrong on so many levels. There is nothing in US law that demands direct evidence. Jury should decide if someone is guilty or not based on evidence presented and if they knew ( as they say ) they knew she was guilty, they based that on evidence they saw. Inteligent and law educated person, in this case judge, tought state made his case and was sure she will be find guilty, so there is your argument. Iam well aware of double jeopardy and that is more reason to find her guilty and let her fight her so called innocent at other instances of us court system. In this case jury didn't do justice to that little girl and let killer go. They knew it and there is really no excuse. Angry ? That's not word i would use, iam just glad i didn't live next to child rapist ( father ) and child killer ( daughter ) and iam sure in every country where this case would be judge by judge she would go to jail. Worst thing is that, if somebody call her out, there are thousands of brainwashed people, that will defend her with words : "Jury find her innocent, so she in innocent proven in court of "law" ", as if jury can't make mistake.
@MJ I think there is case on this channel, where father of child let his kid in car for whole day and that kid died cause of it. There was no direct evidence, mother of that death child defend his ex husband. Everyone who knew him told as good father he was and there is no chance, he premedited murder of his kid and that he loved him. And yet, he was found guilty, just because jury didn't like him and his life style and he was directly or indirectly responsable for that kids death. He got life behind bars, i think ........
@ufiCz Well here's the thing. The US law system expects the jury to be impartial, and to convict based on direct evidence alone. But humans aren't machines, so, sometimes there's a lot going on in jury deliberation (watch the movie "Twelve Angry Men", it's about that and it's great) and emotions become part of it. It's sad to say that the jury in Casey Anthony's case actually did their job better than the jury in the case you just described. Regardless what you think about the case, if you're in a jury, you're supposed to be impartial. The US law system doesn't seem to have any solution to the problem that some jurys just aren't impartial, so basically, if you've been wrongfully convicted, you have to hope that the conviction gets overturned, but if you've been wrongfully acquitted, you're protected by the law against double jeopardy (even if new evidence is found!!!).
@MJ System expect jury to make justice to victims. If i were in that jury i would fight tooth and nails to get that person in jail. Not based on emotion, based on evidence presented, so i can sleep at night, that i give some kind of justice to innocent child. Until juror have mandatory IQ test and their deliberation will be ( after fact ) matter of public record, this system is just sham, that has nothing to do with justice or law. Maybe professional jury could make that system better. If inteligent, law educated judge who handled case was surprised by their decision, there is really nothing to talk about. And please don't start with double jeopardy again, that's nonsense by it self, it's the law, but that doesn't mean it's good law, or that it needs some minor changes. Funny thing is that, years ago i was supporter of jury system, because we don't have it in our country. Maybe that's why, we as middle/eastern european country have such a low crime rate.
@ufiCz Your base assumption is wrong, though. That's not the role of the jury at all, the jury must be impartial and not on either side of the trial (that's what the prosecution and defense are for). There's a principle that someone is innocent until proven guilty. During a trial, the prosecution will present an interpretation of the evidence where the person on trial seems guilty, and the defense will present an interpretation of the evidence where the person on trial MAY be innocent. The role of the jury is to determine whether or not the evidence confirms the story of the prosecution beyond a reasonable doubt, or if the arguments of the defense are good enough to discredit the evidence as being evidence of the defendent's guilt. That is the entire, and only, job of the jury. Also, in the case here, the jury DID want to get Casey convicted, but, the evidence wasn't good enough for it, so sadly, the right thing was to acquit her. Casey was to be innocent until proven guilty, the evidence and story of the prosecution did not prove her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, so she got acquitted. It IS sad, and shouldn't have happened, but that's the prosecution's fault, not the jury's fault. You're being emotional about this, not rational. IQ tests will not change much. The problem here has nothing to do with IQ. IQ tests are an attempt to measure the mental development in children, it's used on adults but wasn't intended to and really doesn't mean much. It attempts to measure people's ability to do abstract logic, which doesn't have any consequences applicable in a trial for murder. I also don't think a professional jury would have made things better. Professionals know even better than civilians what qualifies as direct evidence, of which, again, there wasn't enough in Casey Anthony's case at the moment of the trial. Everyone was shocked and disgusted that she was acquitted, but again : if it was so clear that she was guilty, where was the evidence to support it? Think about it. Double jeopardy actually is very important. It exists because without it, it was possible to ruin people's lives by endlessly putting them on trial, forcing them to spend money on their defense until they were broke and had to cave in (and be wrongfully convicted for a crime they didn't commit). It protects people from legal harassment, which, trust me, is REALLY important. Someone with more money than you could keep you on trial forever, until you were faced with a jury that does think the evidence makes you guilty, regardless if you're guilty or not. The double jeopardy law just has one flipside, as I already explained : when the prosecution presents a case, it MUST be absolutely sure that the evidence supports their story beyond any reasonable doubt. Again, in Casey Anthony's trial, that just wasn't the case. What evidence was there? The only "minor change" to the double jeopardy law that could make sense, would be : what if there's new evidence found? But new evidence can be found all the time, so, again, you'd open for an endless loop of trials until the person with the least amount of money has to agree to losing the trial. That's why the prosecution should only go to trial when the evidence is already there, which is why sometimes investigations take years, but that's also why murder investigations stay open indefinitely (the system isn't that bad, you see? there's been some thought put into it). I live in western Europe. The more I think of these things, the more I have to say, I dunno which one between a pro jury and a jury of peers is better. The crime rate doesn't have that much to do with that.
@MJ First of all IQ test are not just to measure mental dev. in children, so you are right out wrong here. You keep talking about direct evidence, but there is evidence and that evidence is then split into direct and indirect/circumstantial ....... Where is the LAW that stated there must be direct evidence of crime to sentence somebody to jail ? Where is the law that says person can't be guilty based on indirect evidence ? There is a common misconception that circumstantial evidence cannot be used to convict a defendant of a crime. There is no evidence rule that prohibits a prosecutor from introducing circumstantial evidence or even from solely relying on circumstantial evidence when presenting a case against a defendant. In fact, there may be situations where circumstantial evidence is stronger than direct evidence, especially when the person testifying about what they directly witnessed is unreliable or has been shown to be untrustworthy. You talking that jury should be impartial, yes i agree, judge too ..... Judge thought state made his case and could't believe she walk free. THIS opinion of judge throwing whole your argument thru the window. Yes, state prosecutor didn't do good job. Do i blame him she walk free ? Yes, but in the end JURY who tought SHE WAS GUILTY let her go, in the end it's upon on jury to deliver justice and law is, or at least should be about justice. That's main point you still missing. Little child died in care of her mother. Mother that didn't care, lied,stole, party, acted like shit to every person she knew, didn't even report missing kid, left her in trunk of her car, probably so body will starts to desolve, so autopsy couldn't find anything. Lied about absolutely everything, had motive, railroaded investigation as long as she could, she had means and she research things about murder before. If somebody talking there is reasonable doubt, he is not reasonable person.
@ufiCz Quit being this emotional... About IQ, I think I know what I'm talking about, disagree with me if you want but I will not change my mind. It was developed to measure the development of children in the first place, it's been used for other things since but it's a very skewed tool that just measures your ability to understand specific tests of abstract logic. And yes, I keep talking about direct evidence. Because that's the only thing where you can be absolutely certain that no jury, professional or not, will not argue. That's the entire point of it. Literally everything else is open to interpretation, so with any evidence that isn't direct, it's a matter of which story is the most believable for the jury, the prosecution's story or the defense's story. That's why you need as much direct evidence as possible. In the US justice system, the judge at first only presides the trial, and if the jury vote for guilty, then the judge is responsible for the criminal penalty, but that's it. It makes sense to not have the whole trial in the hands of one person. What that means is that the jury have a lot of power, and with power comes the responsibility to not misuse that power. You consider they did misuse it, I consider they didn't. The matter here is, noone outside the jury really controls what the jury consider "reasonable doubt" to be, maybe that's a weakness of the system, I'm not entirely sure (as I said before, I could totally imagine a professional jury to have considered the lack of direct evidence to be a reason to have reasonable doubt). But either way, if it's that important that the jury understands very well what is or isn't "reasonable doubt", then maybe an explanation for that should be part of each trial, especially murder trials where the victim isn't alive to testify anymore... I'll give you that. But let me explain why the jury thought there was "reasonable doubt" here. We're talking about the death of a baby here, there's only two perpetrators that would make sense : the parents, or a pedophile predator (we could look up statistics, but I'm fairly sure those two cover like 99% of the cases). In most cases it's the parents. So, yeah, here's a reason to believe she did it. Also the whole nanny story she made up to explain why Caylee had been missing for a month when her own parents called 911. Caylee died by suffocation and she had googled stuff specifically about that. The smell in the car. All of these paint a clear picture : Casey did it. Sure. Noone is debating that. It makes no sense that anyone else would be guilty here. But here's the problem : there is no physical evidence that proves Casey was actually the person who suffocated Caylee to death. No suspect fingerprints, no suspect DNA, no video footage, nothing. So, do the laws of physics of this universe make it possible that someone else, regardless who, why or how, would have done it instead of and/or for Casey? Yes, they do. For example, it's possible Casey hired someone else to do it for her (and no evidence would have been found), in which case, she wouldn't have been the one who committed the murder (in that scenario, she would have been guilty of sollicitation for murder, and NOT of murder! But she was on trial for murder, so... she would have been not guilty). The devil is in the details. The prosecution needs to make sure to have the right accusation, and the evidence for it. It's a really tricky and stressful business, especially when the prosecution has to talk for a deceased person.
@MJ Hm jury who write something like this : The juror — who spoke with PEOPLE two subsequent times since his initial interview — told PEOPLE that the attorneys’ behavior in the courtroom also had an impact in the jury room. He described lead prosecutor Jeff Ashton as “ambitious” and “arrogant.” He said that one of the other prosecutors was “mechanical and cold.”
But the juror had a different take on lead defense attorney Jose Baez. “He was the only one in the room who seemed like he cared,” the juror said. “We talked about that in the jury room.” " A female juror told reporters that the jurors were “sick to our stomachs” over the verdict. The juror explained that, “I did not say she was innocent. I just said there was not enough evidence.”
This was the consensus of the other jurors interviewed after the verdict, to wit, in this “CSI age”, they expected DNA and fingerprints from the prosecution. There simply was not enough evidence to conclude that Casey Anthony committed the murder beyond a reasonable doubt." Are just not smart people who should decide such things. Typical brainwashed americans who just don't understand that CSI isn't real life and in most cases there isn't much direct evidence. To end this debate last post of jury : "Speaking anonymously to People, one male juror said the Anthony trial was “traumatic to think about” as he wished “I had done a lot of things differently”.
The decision not to convict Anthony of her daughter’s death “haunts me to this day” and he wished he had been able to “push harder”, the juror said.
“I think now if I were to do it over again, I’d push harder to convict her of one of the lesser charges like aggravated manslaughter. At least that. Or child abuse,” he told People. "
@Colin Maxwell She is in no worse state than anyone else, unless confession to salvation in Jesus is made. Dont fall for the ideology that the afterlife only punishes the obviously evil.
She only shows emotion when it’s directed towards her, Even though these parents seem very supportive and loving. I am assuming that as a child, Casey didn’t get the attention she needed, that led her to be rebellious so her parents could give her the 24/7 love and care she needed. I think that Casey never loved Caylee, she had a child to further being “rebellious” and to continue her constant fight of getting the love and attention she needs.
I dated this type of girl for 3 years, lies everywhere, she is beautifull looks pure innocent but also 'deadly' at the same time, and now I knew where is her skills came from. Hope she will become a real human not a monster in the future.
She’s not actually doing anything that smart during interrogation, she’s just mirroring the officer on purpose (like a therapist would to show they empathize with you) and then not answering his questions.
She’s learned how to do that on purpose so that people like her more, that’s all. She’s may not even be doing it consciously.
But she’s not like some evil mastermind, she’s just accidentally using a strategy she always uses and it happens to be working pretty well here….. at least getting her out of answering questions. She looks the same amount of guilty oh dear…
The minute her mother was trying to hand her the phone to talk to 911 and she said “I don’t have anything to talk to them” was the minute I knew this is about to be TRAGIC.
Great example of a white, rich woman getting exactly what she wants. I can't imagine what in their right mind this jury was thinking when they came to that conclusion.
@Wolfdoggie Tenkaistarit is shit indeed, she served exactly 3 years to the day of her sentencing. Casey served the equivalent ratio of one year in jail for every year of Caylee's short life before Caylee was murdered.
I'm almost EXACTLY this kind of liar, but I don't want to be. Constant success with this tactic makes it super addictive. Are there any online resources I can make use of to help me stop this behavior?
@Viral Leaks he probably isn’t even searching on the internet, but is just trying to arouse our sympathy by distancing himself from his ‘problem’ He confessed already that it has granted him success in the past Why wouldn’t he want to continue using it?
@Viral Leaks Being serious. Trying to stop. I'm older, don't know how to private this. How exactly is this "validation?" I posted my request on this thread because I felt like someone like you wouldn't give me B.S. and you didn't let me down. Thank you, but I'm serious.
@Matto Osteen “Now you shift the blame onto the accuser, trying to weaken their emotional resolve with the guilt you impose” This tactic is to be expected of a sociopath who immediately feels the need to shut down the debate by trying to make the adversary look unintelligent to completely block off any and all support that he might have from the spectators
In the beginning of the comment, the sentences used were short, possibly to indicate precisely and briefly what the problem is and the urgency required to stop it, but towards the end of the monologue, the sentences morph into long ones, implying that the writer is in no hurry to get the work done, probably because of meticulously planning to take advantage of the prosecution’s psychology to the fullest extent in stark contradiction to the initial impression, which is either an error or some sort of planned trick as initial impressions have a stronger effect on a person, making the man behind this comment far more experienced and dangerous However, as soon as this scheme has been spotted, all prior calculation is rendered useless and the gambit is foiled This inaccuracy makes the detective’s work far easier because only one of the above given inferences can be true and the evidence of the case strongly suggests the latter explanation None of this is completely proven or irrefutable fact, but simply a detailed analysis of possible intentions of the suspect with little to no trace of a firm motive
Kevin Buckner2022-04-30 07:37:03 (edited 2022-04-30 07:38:01 )
This is 100% a narcissist at the highest degree. Especially in the interrogation room with the detectives, she’s agreeable and is talking extremely proper, trying to make it look like she “has it all together” so the detectives don’t see her as being guilty. But what she doesn’t realize is that she isn’t displaying the emotions/actions of a grieving mother, the detectives are noticing this also… after watching this compilation of videos and seeing it like this, which is likely why is was put together like this, lol… there is no question who committed this and it’s an absolute embarrassment to our justice system that this spoiled brat got away while lying through her teeth the entire time and I have to tell my kids about this…
at 30 minutes her mother figures it out, you can see it on her face. Casey uses the past tense when referring to her daughter multiple times and then back tracks
I wish this video was a little more neutral in structure (literally character assassination into writing off her defense as lies), but it was primarily informative, and I enjoyed it.
Did you not listen to a single thing the video explained to you? You overlook the fact of what was said and discovered? How she masked everything up because she was sexually abused by her dad? It became part of her character. Psychologists during the trial gave testimony as to how this works. Why she was unable to display emotion. Jeez, you really drink that koolaid huh
@Leo Strife no fucken excuse for her actions is acceptable! Man you trippin on some good good huh? The world needs less excuses and more ownership of actions.
at first i wasnt paying attention and thought she was the murderer so i was like "here we go with the fake emotions" and then i was like "oh GOD no, that was real..."
its insane that shes been lying about her true nature to her friends and family the entire time, it seems like her brother was the only one who know who she was like
@Isabella Guy right!! Casey was annoyed that her friend was crying and just wanted her boyfriends phone number… like seriously?! I would be losing it if that were my daughter
Man, those two detectives at 15 minutes in were having NONE of her BS. They sound legitimately annoyed by her, and when the first one says he thinks everything she says is a lie.... normally detectives use phrases like that to wear down someone, but I think he legitimately doesn't believe a single word she says. Why would he? She literally took them through universal and then admitted at the very end she doesn't work there.
Rest in Peace Caylee 🕊️ I'm so sorry you did not get a better mommy. I know my brother in heaven is having ball playing on heavens play ground with you
Shes more worried about getting out of the situation than her daughter missing. Not showing any kind of remorse whatsoever but is annoyed that no one believes her lies.
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Hali Stokes2020-12-30 02:16:11 (edited 2021-02-23 05:00:35 )
I still cannot even fathom how she’s not locked up right now
Update: obviously she had a great lawyer, and the prosecution was lacking in evidence. Obviously, people shouldn’t be convicted without substantial evidence, I just feel like there’s DEF evidence, and they just weren’t competent enough to expose it.
I am so pissed off that she got away with it, with so much against her, as she wished in her diary, her happiness actually grew, she did not have to take care of her child, could party as much as she wanted and got away with murder.
not only is she not locked up, she WORKS in the legal system. From a 2017 interview: Anthony lives in the South Florida home of Patrick McKenna, a private detective who was the lead investigator on her defense team. She also works for him, doing online social media searches and other investigative work. McKenna was also the lead investigator for OJ Simpson, when he was accused of killing his wife and acquitted; Anthony said she's become fascinated with the case, and there are "a lot of parallels" to her own circumstances.
because they didn't have compelling evidence to convict her of murder. i'm glad she's not in prison with the overwhelming lack of compelling evidence the prosecutors had.
@antipsychotic People do not understand that. Regardless of how we feel about her, if every trial was conducted without evidence there would be an enormous amount of innocent people in jail. People do not understand the process of law. Someone did not do their job collecting evidence.
@antipsychotic Yes that’s the way our justice system works. We don’t convict based on emotion or gut feeling or even if we know for sure that the defendant is guilty. The burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused. If the prosecution didn’t prove her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt then the jury has to acquit. (Like if the glove doesn’t fit or something.) I don’t know if they proved it or not. I wasn’t there. Apparently they didn’t. It’s better to set a guilty person free than to imprison or execute an innocent person. Even so, I’m not glad she got away with it. I just wish that the prosecution had been able to prove her guilty.
She’s thinking about having another child. If she was in prison or dead she wouldn’t be having (and possibly killing) more children. Of course if she does have another child the whole country is going to be paying attention. I don’t think she’ll get away with it again.
@Vlad the Impala “bullshit” “horseshit” “chicken shit” that’s exactly how your “female privilege” comment sounded. that’s not even a thing. if you watched other videos on here or literally have watched any true crime case in general (which clearly you haven’t), you would know that there are many many WOMEN who have been convicted of murder. so don’t pull the “she’s a girl, that’s why she got away with it” it’s just ignorant
@Vlad the Impala my bad, thought that was you who made the comment. my apologies, but it’s still white privilege
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Vlad the Impala2021-01-03 01:07:04 (edited 2021-01-03 01:09:11 )
@Laurie Bird By the way, I don’t believe there’s any such thing as female privilege or any other kind of systemic privilege based on race or gender in our criminal justice system. I know there are times when it’s not applied equally for everyone and there are miscarriages of justice but those are isolated incidents not part of a deliberate systemic bias. There’s wealth privilege because people who have lots of money can afford better lawyers and they have a higher position in society. That is a flaw and it shouldn’t be that way but I don’t think there’s anyplace where that doesn’t exist.
Also, your response to me would have been appropriate if I had been the one who said that but I wasn’t. That was the third eye who said that, not me.
Starr also found that females arrested for a crime are also significantly more likely to avoid charges and convictions entirely, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted."
So female privilege is a thing and tbh being a woman i know this to be true we do have it pretty easy.
"The study found that men receive sentences that are 63 percent higher, on average, than their female counterparts.
Starr also found that females arrested for a crime are also significantly more likely to avoid charges and convictions entirely, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted."
@ATomRileyA you can’t be racist towards a white person. also, if you read the end of the article it says “Past studies have also found that minority men are, on average, given longer prison sentences than white men convicted of the same crimes”. it’s all about the skin too. these women usually are white and are not seen as a threat. put a black person up there and they are easily convicted
She's not locked up because of the sad reality that sometimes your charisma and well honed skill of lying overrides facts and evidence. I know it sounds horrible and dark, but what other explanation could there be to something like this?
@Sebastian johansson "White people can indeed face stereotypical assumptions based on their skin colour and hence encounter racial prejudice. But this cannot be called racism, because of the inherent systemic imbalance of power between those with lighter skin colour and people of colour. Racial prejudice can affect people on an individual level, but it would not have the same effect on a larger social and cultural level because it is only when stereotypes are bolstered by power, such as through a eurocentric model of thinking, that it creates systemic and structural racism and oppression that people of colour have encountered throughout history."
- Dr Pragya Agarwal, author and behavioural scientist
@Sebastian johansson Generalizing and racism are bad, but not against people I don't like. I don't even see them as hypocrites anymore, just the enemy.
because 30 days has passed, they didnt have any hard evidence that shows she killed her so it all falls down to how good her defense lawyers was. she can live a good life now but she will meet her daughter again in the afterlife and answer to the court of God.
@Krihoise Where is Casey Anthony now. January 1st 2021 Casey Anthony has filed documents to start a private investigation firm, according to Florida state records. The address listed for the company belongs to Patrick McKenna, according to Palm Beach County property records.
McKenna was the lead investigator on Anthony’s defense team during her 2011 trial.
In a 2017 interview, Anthony told The Associated Press that she had been working for McKenna doing online social media searches and other investigative work. McKenna was also the lead investigator for O.J. Simpson, when he was accused of killing his wife and acquitted
@Hrist Sunstrider Where is Casey Anthony now. January 1st 2021 Casey Anthony has filed documents to start a private investigation firm, according to Florida state records. The address listed for the company belongs to Patrick McKenna, according to Palm Beach County property records.
McKenna was the lead investigator on Anthony’s defense team during her 2011 trial.
In a 2017 interview, Anthony told The Associated Press that she had been working for McKenna doing online social media searches and other investigative work. McKenna was also the lead investigator for O.J. Simpson, when he was accused of killing his wife and acquitted
@Nicholas Marshall Where is Casey Anthony now. January 1st 2021 Casey Anthony has filed documents to start a private investigation firm, according to Florida state records. The address listed for the company belongs to Patrick McKenna, according to Palm Beach County property records.
McKenna was the lead investigator on Anthony’s defense team during her 2011 trial.
In a 2017 interview, Anthony told The Associated Press that she had been working for McKenna doing online social media searches and other investigative work. McKenna was also the lead investigator for O.J. Simpson, when he was accused of killing his wife and acquitted
I did not follow this case didn't have nothing to do with it also did not know that she did not get charged for murdering her child. Oh no she might have been able to pull the blindfold over the jury but when the real judgment the one that matters is here we all know what's going to happen to her God knows the truth and he will judge accordingly
yeah its a real shame the justice system isnt just and treats women different than men. if she were a man that did this she would be on death row and everyone knows it
@Jengleheimer Schmitt Are you referring to my link about reverse racism being a myth? The fact is that individuals could have their own bias against all white people - which I do not agree with and is definitely their own prejudice but there is not a deep-rooted and systemic racism towards white ppl. That is why reverse racism is not a thing.
@murmurzz You are expressing "deep-rooted and systemic" bias. And you are very clearly defending judging people based on the color of their skin rather than the content of their character.
Re-defining words to make your prejudice appear virtuous is only a linguistic trick. It is not a claim about the nature of reality, it is simply modifying definitions to launder and glorify your own ideological prejudice.H
@murmurzz I Are you seriously claiming that you can tell whether or not someone is "racist" without knowing anything at all other than their race? If you don't see the absurdity of that, I think you must be entiierly immune to noticing absurdity. Perhaps you have a "deep-rooted and systemic" immunity to noticing absurdity.
@Jengleheimer Schmitt I don't even know what you're saying. Nowhere did I say that you can tell if someone is racist by just looking at their skin. Where tf are you getting this from? I'm done, folks. If you don't understand my point than you probably never will. One last time: especially in the USA, white men have held the majority of the power. While white women were considered inferior, they still had privilege and power over others just because they were white. Therefore, reverse racism cannot exist because we have always had the advantage. K, I'm done repeating myself. You either get it or you don't.
@murmurzz Well, one race"_is_ inherently "racist", whilst another "race" is not... Regardless of anything any "individuals" actually do or do not do, and regardless of the content of ones character, no?
@murmurzz Also, this therm "reverse racism" another silly neo-logism created by the ideology that you are espousing. Unless one re-defines "the therm "racism" to assume it's own conclusion, it is a meaningless term.
If you honestly want to modify the definition of such an overwhelmingly-important term, try proposing the modification straightforwardly, rather than simply declaring it to be so.
The problem that arises directly is that you would have to say something like, "I think racism should be defined based on ones race, rather than on anything meaningfully objective". -Which is a very silly thing to say.
@notafake account drowned in pool but was duct taped and put in a swamp, made imaginary people up, car boot smelled of a body, searched suffication on computer, went out partying... And you think innocent?
And this is what America is messed up. How on earth did she get away with that at all is so corrupt. If I was on that Jury I would of gone with guilty on all accounts. So if she didn’t kill Caylee, who did? Doesn’t even seem like they were even bothered about that at all. This is so sad.
@Nicholas Marshall I read that case of OJ Simpson and saw the actual photos of well what happened. Explain's how she got off as OJ so guilty so guilty killing his ex wife. She only got upset when it was about her not about her child if your child has gone missing surely you be in a distrort state phoning police and doing anything to find her and phone your mum. What gets me so many people lie her get litually away with murder.
Ok when the detective is speaking to her ....who's trained in questions to ask and to see how she answers them she was not sat there like she was speaking of her child it was like she was speaking bloke she was in a job interview laughter flirting .....I sorry she's killed her own kid or had bloke do it for her how ever her part was there. To busy partying and smoking blow. Tell me how she get to work in criminology?? What the f!!!
@Ally Lou I have made several comments. I’m glad someone agrees with at least one of them but which of my comments are you saying you concur with? You’re also saying that you agree with Laurie Bird and I disagree with quite a lot of what she has said. Especially the part about it not being possible to be racist against white people. It absolutely is possible. In fact it’s quite common.
@Alma Miranda yes, I agree. You just get that gut feeling that she wasn’t innocent. I wish they figured out what really happened and could present evidence.
I must say, she's an impressive liar. She's exceptionally good at going into enough detail to seem believable but not so much that it seems suspicious.
Where does Casey live? As of 2017, Anthony was living in South Florida with Patrick McKenna, a private detective who worked as the lead investigator on her case in the 2011 trial in the death of her daughter. McKenna is also known for his work on the O.J. Simpson case, the former NFL star who was charged and later acquitted in the murder of his wife, Nicole Brown Simpson.
“She wasn’t an event coordinator. She sold photos of people after they had been on The Incredible Hulk ride” You just roasted someone by simply stating a fact lol
Reminds me of an employee I had. She was basically a janitor and she told our clients that she was a "Facilities Coordinator" right in front of me one time, was so awkward. After she left she used me as a reference. They called me and asked "So it says here she was a Facilities Coordinator"... I was like, uh, no she was basically a janitor. She also came across as a sociopath and definitely a liar.
@Monica G. Davis It kind of reminds me of Meghan Markle telling a newspaper she was on the short list for the next Bond Girl. So the newspaper called up the producers of the Bond films and they laughed and said they'd never heard of her and she certainly wasn't on the short list. Some people just let lies roll off their tongues so easily. Logically, you know it's a lie but the way they deliver it, it sounds so plausible.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
@David Lilleøren you don't go free if you plead insanity. check "what pretending to be crazy looks like" in this channel, you're misinformed and clearly just trying to justify your women hatred
@Dallas Van Winkle Way to help her get a leg up. Everyone uses titles that sound better than the real thing - If my business card said "guy who fobbs people off on the phone for a faceless corporation", I wouldn't get that much business would I? If she was your janitor, she WAS coordinating your facilities. Using the wrong cleaning fluids WILL damage flooring surfaces. Using the wrong quantities Will leave residues that present a slipping hazard. Using the same mop in the kitchen as was used in the toilet WILL spread germs. Her coordination meant that your facilities ran in a more safe and efficient manner.
Would it have been so hard to give another person a hand up?
DAMN, her lawyer was right "if you're unsure of what happened to Caylee, then Casey's guilt hasn't been proven and you shouldn't find her guilty." And EVERYONE figured she'd be found guilty. And he just checkmated everyone with a simple point. That was impressive lawyering. (But I thought it was off that he said "Casey did not murder Caylee" at the press conference. He just made the point that we're unable to make a definitive call on that.)
I'm not a psychiatrist, but one thing I noticed is that whenever Casey talks to her parents the parents sound like the child and Casey sounds like the parent.
I'm surprised jury is still a thing, a bunch of people who know nothing about crime deciding the fate of criminals depending on whether theyb "believe" the evidence. At least make them pass an iq check. This case should've been a slam dunk...
@Jamal Labarge naming authoritarian countries without a jury system doesn't prove your point. Most first world countries have normal civil law without a jury system (which means judges make the decision), and it has worked fine for them for years. Also, the USA isn't the epitome of democracy, in fact it is at rank 27 on CPI scale. (2021)
@Jamal Labarge Many Americans do not like the jury system, and are dissatisfied with the american justice system so you're false. Oh and please inform me why people should be unfamiliar with the law?
@Jamal Labarge The problem is is that many people escape justice because of juries. It might very well be that a lot of cases are not subject to juries, but the idea is that none should be. People who do not understand law and have had no education on the subject will very often judge cases based on feeling despite of evidence, an example of this is the Vicky Pryce trial where jurors repeatedly had to ask if they could speculate some things. Judges also prevent police misconduct, for instance if evidence is found when a cop forces himself into your home it cannot be used, yet if this were to be revealed to a jury (the evidence), a jury would likely still be biased and unable to fairly asses a case or events. there are many examples of juries who completely ignore evidence for example this case or the infamous OJ simpson case, and go with their gut instead.
Why? Why does this blow your mind? She is so obviously innocent. Her lawyers spiffy suit and engaging demeanor tells me she is certainly innocent. Not guilty. Why do you still pretend she’s a killer?
@Joey Doherty well from what I've seen on crime channels rich people go unpunished (or win a case against someone poorer) either way. I'm not against jury itself but the people they put on there. If I had to imagine an improved version of this system, I'd say it would be great if people had to pass some short course that would assess their critical thinking skills beforehand. It boggles my mind that a compelling speech that is clearly constructed to appeal to emotion can change the outcome of a case in spite of evidence.
@Ug Ne To make it fair, If people who knew about how criminal system worked and how law worked they would be too hard on the criminal. If people who knew the perp or the victim did so then they would be biased. So the only people who can judge is random people who know nothing about the law who can be presented with evidence and try to make a decision
@Devs you have no idea what living in a broken system is like. Americans like jury’s because English common law treats each person as an individual rather than civil law where every aspect is codified and lacks the nuance of individualism.
I remember watching a documentary where they said they weren’t sure beyond a reasonable doubt, but if a mother threw out this many false flags, I’m not sure how they could possibly doubt it. It wouldn’t surprise me if her looks subconsciously helped her case
@Arminius Music What direct evidence was there that proves Caylee did not drown in the pool? I think she probably wasn’t watching her and she drowned. It happens all the time. The prosecution should have done a better job proving negligent homicide instead of focusing on chloroform and her partying.
@Ug Ne yknow the lawyers pick the jurors, right? They even get to ask potential jurors questions to figure out which way their biases would lean during the trial. The defence attorney was just a way better lawyer. Sad but true.
@Ug Ne the idea is it's supposed to be a "jury of your peers", which means that they want a group of people who are not inherently biased for or against the defendant. So they call in a bunch of people for jury duty. Then the lawyers ask them questions to find out if they have any particular biases that would negatively or positively impact the case for their respective sides, and choose accordingly. It made sense at some point, but after 200 years anybody can figure out how to bend rules
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@Ug Ne id blame the system more than the ppl honestly. both sides of the case have the opportunity to misguide the jury on what certain laws or words mean, or what their jobs are etc. which is apparently what a lot of ppl think is what went wrong in this case. most ppl are reasonably intelligent just like you or me.
edit: person above me referenced OJ and thats a good example of how precious and careful the job of a juror is. look how messy that trial and the media surrounding it was.
She was found not guilty because the prosecution overcharged her and focused too heavily on that over charge. They never had a definitive cause of death which made it rather hard to convict on first degree murder. They should have focused on potential child abuse and manslaughter with the hopes that the jury would convict on those charges and then with those two convictions it would help them make the leap to first degree homicide.
@Ug Ne We have a jury of peers because it's a democracy; to not leave your fate solely to some bought-out government official. However unreliable a jury can be sometimes, I'd still prefer that than having ANY politician decide my fate, thanks.
@Breakfast Television her behavior is enough though. And if not for murder, they could’ve gotten child neglect resulting in involuntary manslaughter if they believed the pool thing, and other charges for getting in the way of the investigation with the lies.
@Withstandyes... and it's even more than the system and more than the evolutionary advantage... I wanted to thank you for your comment... hopefully you speak from your own assessment rather than some plagiarized movie line or publication... because it is a great assessment... and the reason is deeper than anyone realizes... the entire interface through which humanity interacts with itself is warped into a narcissistic perception... this interface that warps perception is present at conception but clicks on when social interaction begins... it's not really a comment length subject to discuss... but some of the deepest research went into solving the self-destructive nature of humanity and where it stems from...
@Jelon Lennon Jose Baez in the beginning of the trial said “Casey lied, there is no Zanny the nanny”, he said “Caylee drowned in the backyard pool” then at the end of the trial Jose says “we may never know how Caylee died”.
@omegakrest yeah let's hope she never decides to have another baby. because if you ask me at all boiled down her being jealous of her daughter. Because she didn't get all the attention.
it's so funny to watch those amazing lawyers from homicide and very disturbing cases, then compare their skills with the team of the jhonny depp case. They are in a completely different league.
Casey hated her parents. She wanted to hurt them too. She got Narcissistic supply from that. She got supply from killing her daughter and feeling powerful. Beating the justice system would’ve given her the biggest rush of all.
the mom was just as delusional about her daughter.. i remember when this all happened; someone close to the family made a statement in a writeup about this case that two years prior, there had been a family wedding, casey looked pregnant to her and asked casey Anthony's mother about it and she denied denied denied, even stating that her daughter was a virgin...
@Villanelle They. needed to know how she died, it was clear that she wasn't drowned in the swamp she was only dumped there. So what they needed to do was check how she died, look for and test the body of water that she likely died in and have that as evidence and make up their case as they go. You need a certain amount of deductive thinking to make a good case, something the prosecution was sadly lacking.
@globalcitizenn Probably lied to keep her alive and this was done probably under the counsel of the defense attorney. That would account for the lack of emotional tell.
The sad thing is those type of parents are the ones who thought that their child could do no wrong and now their child is in this MESS and I believe they know their daughter killed their grandchild!!!
Someone fact check me on this, but it sounds like Casey's father paid for a defense attorney to spin up a tale about him molesting his own daughter so she could get away with murder. Parent of the year award, right there...
@Villanelle so? She still obviously killed her. What mom sits around for 30 days when there kid is missing and they dont know were she is. Like if my son cant he found for 2 seconds I'm freaking out. So ummm yeah. And u can tell she doesnt care because of how she is talking to 911...then she lies about were Casey is and takes the cops on a wild run around to nothing and no nanny. It's all lies. Odor in the trunk too. And then Casey is found right now the block from her home.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
They messed Casey up and so I really don’t think they would have fared any better with Caylee, sure they wouldn’t have killed her but I doubt she wouldn’t be fucked up.
@Villanelle DNA is hirlously unreliable in comparison to how the general public see it. There has been criminal cases where there is cctv evidence which included the guys face and the jury let him off because the DNA evidence was inclusive. Also there has been a case of serial killer in Europe, which was actually just single murders with contaminated DNA swabs. The duct tape was on the kids skull, if it didn't leave any DNA i'd be suprised
I don't know about the father, they said there was sexual abuse but I have no idea if that was true since the defense only said that to get her off of the hook.
@Georgie you completely missed what the other person was getting at. despite how bad it was explained, i understand what they meant.
while casey looked guilty asf with all the lies, there's was PHYSICALLY nothing that could place her as the murderer, which is why she got away with it. unfortunately according to law, you can't put people in jail bc of a gut feeling and no physical evidence that proves they did it :/
I would have loved to take her. What a beautiful child, and how horrible that she had such a horrible, evil mother.
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TJ Jordan That's not what happened. Her lawyer brought up the idea and her dad said he wasn't going to go with it. Not sure why he didn't sue the lawyers or his daughter after that for lying and ruining his image which then made it impossible for him to find work for a long time and added to his supposed attempt at suicide
Blithe She didn't get anything for neglect. There might not be proof she murdered caylee, but there was endless amounts of proof of neglect with what she did the 30 days after her little girl was dead/missing.
I would have. I think so many people would have given anything to have a little daughter. And she could have had her cake and eaten it too. Her parents would babysit while she went clubbing. But she's so narcissistic she saw her daughter as a rival for the grandma's affection.
@TJ Jordan I mean, that's how she got off. Iirc the trial there was no question she died, but the reasonable doubt was who was covering for who. That she like accidentally drowned and they panicked or something. Typing that out, I must be forgetting something it's insane she got off
@Georgie I feel like your reading comprehension is lacking. If you were actually a lawyer, that would be a pretty critical failing. I never said you couldn't be tried and convicted with only circumstantial evidence, or that doing so required a body. I just said that there was no direct evidence in this case, which is fact. I also said that the prosecution failed to make their case sufficiently, which is also fact; and is confirmed by the jury's decision. You are clearly the confused one in this case, but thanks for playing.
@Georgie I assume it's fictional because anyone can make unverifiable claims on the internet. I'm actually a state senator from Washington writing under a pseudonym. See? That's about as credible as your alleged law degree.
I think Casey Anthony is guilty, and your opinion in that regard has nothing to do with why I responded to you. Your asinine response to someone responding to one of your previous comments, however, was. I do wish that YT would actually specify which comment is being replied to, in order to avoid misunderstandings like this when dealing with those possessing poor reading comprehension skills.
If you'll note, I've responded to a few other individuals and comment threads on this video, so any feeling of being singled out is purely based on your own imaginings.
Also, it's a Sunday morning, what the hell else am I gonna be doing? It's one of my days off, so I will enjoy it as I see fit.
But then she's undeniably a terrible mom. Whereas this way she was able to be the center of attention and not demonized. Which didn't work, but she still got off from any charges
I mean.. she would've been safe but when they do things like cover up their daughter's lies and essentially reward it (with an actual false graduation party, mind you), it doesn't seem that they would've been very appropriate caregivers, either.
Such as: "Today my dear kid had diarrhea & it killed me" lol I just love how people always interpret something thats not even there. Just like people reading books or watch a movie. " bet they would even interpret things into a childrens book Clifford the big red dog. On first glance it may seem that its about a dog & his adventures but its actually a in depth analysis of the canine psyche. LMAO XD
Her saying she went through with a big decision and is relieved from it mixed the very specific Internet searches of information of how her daughter was murdered should be enough evidence in my opinion. Let’s put it in a different scenario that people don’t go to jail for. If you search how to steal someone’s burrito and how it plays out and thennn wrote in your diary saying you are so happy you finally ate and went through with a decision and the burrito is found to be proven eaten, everyone would say you ate it case closed. There’s nobody else in the world that wanted that burrito to be eaten, nobody even had access to the burrito except the person who did that search and wrote that down. How is that not enough evidence or even considered to be a CONFESSION. (Disclaimer: Absolutely not comparing a child’s death to a burrito just do not want to use a disturbing metaphor and one that is more of a non serious matter and something more ‘relatable’ so somebody who isn’t even trained in investigation will be able to judge the conclusion as guilty and understand why it’s such blatant evidence.)
@SkyTheSuperIntendent you cant see the obvious connection? you must be american to? what was it otherwise then? what about googling suffocation? do you think she was innocent?
@TheRealM00 The Original i never said she was innocent just that what was written in her diary could not be connected to anything without context. It has no obvious connections if u dont know the story or from the view point of the jury, it is possible she was talking about something else. (And jesus christ u went right for the throat didnt u. Why attack who i am? Being american has nothing to do with anything)
@Elle Zuck The prosecution team was pretty shitty to be honest. They didnt point ANY of this out in their closing statements. Just rambled on a about a motive, and you cant PROVE a motive. They CAN prove that Caylee was suffocated and they CAN prove that Casey looked up how to suffocate and they CAN prove that Casey wrote about some huge decision made after the alleged murder date. Regardless of evidence. Shitty prosecution + REALLY GOOD defense = Free Casey Anthony.
@Bailey Harrison Nope,...Double Jeopardy.... Once tried for 1st degree murder, you can't be re-tried for the same, or lesser, crime pertaining to the same case., ie., manslaughter., they cannot even charge her. It would have to be a more serious charge, and I don't know of one.
@Elle Zuck I am sorry to break your "bulletproof" logic, but there is a possibility for everything... If the kid really died by accident, the big decision Casey was talking about could have been that of disposing of the body. I have researched stats about suicides and poisons and killing methods many times, but that certainly doesn't make me a killer. Also, those internet searches were found in 2012, which is 1 year after her verdict. You may have written on your diary that you finally ate the burrito, but she never wrote that she finally "killed her daughter". Something that vague can't be considered as a confession.
@TheRealM00 The Original Her "suffocation" research was found out a year later her verdict. Aren't you paying attention to the videos you watch? For saying BS like that, you are way worse than an American with a 5minute attention span. You must be BRITISH
@SkyTheSuperIntendent sorry i just keep running into americans, quit a lot of them opver the age of 40 acting and sounding like kids. and sorry to be so stereotypical about it but its too true sadly
@Luzilyo Stormchild You can't just accuse me of joke murder so casually, you know. You'll be hearing from my lawyer, Winston Payne, over those slanderous accusations.
There's an article with a jury member who, 10 years later, "regrets" not at least finding her guilty of "manslaughter". Are you SERIOUS!? If any jury should be super worried about their names getting out.... it's this jury. Just how!?
@Luzilyo Stormchild No way. Maya would've been like, "Jesus Chris, I just saw everything she did... not only can we not represent her, we need to make sure the only lawyer she can get is brain damaged.".
The Jury concept always seemed dumb to me. Here's a random assortment of citizens with no qualifications deciding peoples fate. They should need to have some sort of law degree to be making decisions about peoples futures like that.
@fieldy409 100 % agree. "aight we got some guy, he allegedly did a bunch of serously fucked up shit. now who gets to decide whether we kill him or not? how about a bunch of random dudes lmao idgaf"
@fieldy409 That's the 6th amendment right to a jury of your peers. In this case, it was a random person who made a horrible decision getting a jury of random people who made a horrible decision.
@Lukas Goza u realize the REASON OJ was found not guilty is because of white privilege… the entire case turned from the murder of his wife to racism and prejudice in the police force. Multiple jurors said they would have refused to find him guilty due to the overwhelming evidence of racist cops dealing with OJ and the case
@Kittensss you just called the Justice system in America is fair? LOL I Mean maybe you can say it is slightly fair towards White people but that’s about it-
That's called circumstantial evidence. It helps but by itself, it doesn't prove beyond reasonable doubt that she's guilty. Emphasis on "beyond a reasonable doubt". They need concrete evidence admissible to the court during the trial, which they don't have. That's why the jury is forced to declare her innocent. Criminal justice can't be judged by someone's appearance of being guilty. They must be proven guilty or else the US would become some shithole where someone can get someone else punished just by being more influential than the other guy.
@Mad Max well that’s the difference. It depends on who u are in America. If it was a POC this case probably would’ve been shut almost immediately and the court would’ve convicted
The jury must not have been provided all the evidence and must feel like the case should be thrown out on them not having all the pertinent evidence to convict but seeing this especially with the internet searches it doesn't leave any doubt.
@Kelton Foster I remember this case and followed it closely. This girl never showed any remorse. Her phone conversations with her parents were available to the jurors. They had plenty of evidence to convict. False statements and obstruction when she was questioned originally. Forensic science determined there human remains her her cars trunk. That's when she was arrested.
@Mad Max just no. It is not imperative to have ‘concrete’ evidence. You don’t have to have a picture or video of the crime, nor DNA or fingerprints on the murder weapon. That is clearly not the standard.
@Ethan of the Internet that’s not how this works. It’s not a debate where the judges pick which side does better. Is she guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? The entire world knows she’s guilty. You don’t let a mommy murderer go free because you think ‘the prosecution sucked.’ They were manipulated and duped by the defense lawyer and are embarrassed about it. They should be. That’s the long and short of it.
@Nicholas Price The prosecution failed to establish how Caylee Anthony died, which is pretty important if you're trying to prove that she killed her child, intentionally or otherwise.
@Ethan of the Internet And? Why cover up the death of your child, go on a 5-week bender, write about how happy you are in your diary while you’re ‘trying’ to look for her, get a tattoo commemorating your ‘beautiful life’ while ‘trying’ to look for your child, and not say a single truthful thing to the police once you’re caught…you know, if you’re innocent? It doesn’t matter what the exact cause of death is. If I kill someone, but I do a fantastic job of destroying the body where you don’t know how the person died, do I get off on the charges automatically? That’s just a terrible standard.
@Nicholas Price I'm not arguing that I wanted her to get off or that she didn't kill her kid. I think she did it. I'm pointing out that, legally, they couldn't meet the burden of proof for first-degree murder. They should have charged her with things that didn't require them to prove that she caused the death.
@Ethan of the Internet Sure they did. The fact that even the people claiming that they didn’t meet the burden of proof knows she guilty proves it. Baez manipulated and duped the jury into a false definition of ‘reasonable doubt’.
this is what blows my mind the most her diary was literally like ‘hey i’m free to live today (the day my daughter went missing- no correlation btw) it was a hard decision but yolo’
@Mad Max Numerous defendants have been found guilty with the prosecution’s case only consisting of circumstantial evidence. In relation to your last sentence : That’s exactly how the justice system works in the US... with the most influential of all being the government themselves. Edit : Criminal trials are a game of roulette.
I still can't believe there wasn't one voice of reason among that jury. Just someone saying, "Look, even if the girl drowned and it was an accident, why wouldn't the mother call an ambulance instead of duct taping her daughter and hiding her dead body? Why would she google about suffocation before the girl died? Why would she party after her daughter died? We know she is a pathological liar, so she will deny everything. There's no doubt she killed her daughter". Had the standards in this case been held, the only way to prove a crime would be having a video of it
This kind of nonsense is why so many other countries don't leave such decisions to some jury of random civilians. I still don't understand why the heck America does this, to this day.
@Celery Towers. First, that’s not all they had. Second, I wouldn’t ask for death in this case. That is just one of the possible punishments. You would agree that she should’ve been found guilty, but you just wouldn’t put her to death? I can go along with that.
@Susanne Collins - car smells like a dead body
- google search about suffocating a child
- journal hinting it
- misleads the cops
- lies about everything
- didn’t report a missing child
- doesn’t show any emotions towards her kid
Jury: seems normal to me
@SkyTheSuperIntendent - car smells like a dead body
- google search about suffocating a child
- journal hinting it
- misleads the cops
- lies about everything
- didn’t report a missing child
- doesn’t show any emotions towards her kid
Jury: seems normal to me
@TheRealM00 The Original see... those points are better. But u could not convict her based on the diary entries. My point was the diary entries dont suggest she murdered someone. I was only refering to the diary entries. Like the original comment was. Dum dum.
Unreal.. her being free is unbelievably stupid. How the heck she didn't even get any convicted and just got away with murder. -_- i wonder if those people behind this investigation, the jury and whoever involved in the shitty part of the case can live their life peacefully after that.
@treylem3 Though you’re correct, In my mind, as mine opinion,I think that is a STUPID rule. Really, also when some obvious cases gets dismissed by a technicality, and then they can take the case up again, and just fixing that technical problem/. There are often things within the law that doesn’t make sense to me, but it does to the defence lawyers, they must understand something I don’t. I am actually having trouble with the hole case getting thrown out because of some technical issues also.
@Kai K. her car also smelled of death, and she was emotionless and unconcerned, she preferred to smoke weed with her boyfriend instead of calling the cops or actually looking, she had the shittyest prosecutors
Her father was a police officer (there is curruption amongst all ranks) even if her father wanted her in jail, I think he still had something to do with this. The boys in blue never betray each other. She deserves to rot in PRISON not JAIL.
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@The Ikon Channel Regardless of Interpretation, when your own child has been missing for days and you say that you're having the happiest day of your life, there is little to no room for alternate Interpretations. No person (with an average degree of sense) would admit to murder unequivocally even in their diary. To expect such a thing is ludicrous.
@TheRealM00 The Original lol absolutely not, after living in the Uk for 2 years I can confidently say almost every British government institution is totally backwards. The US is way sharper.
@Elle Zuck She didn't write "I'm glad my kid is dead". It was more along the lines of "I made a big decision and I won't doubt my decision" Yes, that could actually mean anything. Also, don't look at my search history. That's some scary shit. I'm confident you would find the weirdest most bizarre searches if you looked at anyone's search history. Like maybe she just watched a murder mystery TV show and was wondering if there was a way to suffocate someone without it being traced.. just for fun. Like I might search "how long until a body decomposes completely" or "Does an icicle make an untraceable murder weapon?" " can suffocation be traced if you don't squeeze or cause bruises around the neck?" "Duct tape suffocation, is that traceable?" hmmm, there is no physical damage to the body. Can it still be traced? I'm about to google if suffocation with duct tape leaves traceable cause of death. does not mean I'm going to kill someone. Her searching that does not make her look good but it isn't proof of anything. Like, match the tear in the duck tape to the roll in her drawer at home and now we have something. Find her car tire tracks in the sand where the body was dumped. Find physical proof of a body decomposing in the trunk of her car (you know they searched that car and must have found nothing, there is no way they didn't search that car.) Find literally anything linking her physically to the murder. They had nothing but speculation. Speculation combined with physical evidence drives a convincing case, not just speculation alone. Like the guy said at the end, we can sit here all day and talk about what might have happened but that isn't proof of anything.
@Raccman it just means there wasn't enough evidence. You can know in your gut the person is guilty but that does not mean anything. Innocent until proven guilty. You don't have to prove you're innocent but prosecutors have to prove guilt. In this case they can prove she is a lying wack job but can't prove she was guilty of murder. That's why you don't take a case to court with nothing but speculation and circumstantial evidence, because a guilty person might walk away. They needed some hard evidence to prove she was the one who committed the murder and they had none. Like blood on clothes/ tire tracks of her car at the scene/ match the tears on the roll of duct tape in her house. something. In the eyes of the law this girl is innocent and that's all that really matters. There is only one thing worse than a guilty person getting away with it and that is an innocent person getting thrown in jail for life. That's why there has to be no doubt with the evidence given.
The fact that she did not seek help from anyone to find her daughter for 1 month and yet got time to get tattoo which mean "Beautiful life" speaks a lot. I really don't get how the defending prosecutors can be so cold though they deep down know who is guilty. This the most baffling judgement
HOLD UP 🖐🏼 the nanny goes by “xannie” for short 😂 you can’t make this shit up. There definitely were xannies involved in this nightmare but not in the form of a nanny lmao.
Highly likely she gave the kids xannies and it’s her sick little joke to reference the kids death “she’s with xanny the nanny”
Started to watch, and was reading all the case reports, autopsy report and wiki articles. Then i read that she was walking free. I am unable to watch this video more than first 4 minutes.
@Yabba Dabba No, but all her lies, how the interrogation/prosecution unfolded, her attitude and the wholeness of it all surely told another tale. I think the jury was both distracted and "gas-lit"(Gaslighted) away from the truth.
Well 95% of the population including police officers know what weed smells like
Hardly anybody knows what a dead body smells like.
It’s like when someone says yuck this burrito tastes like shit. I’m sure they’re not experienced turd esters. But something tastes bad and it’s a huge exaggeration.
I read about the Jruy and apparently they focused on stuff like the prosecutors seemed "arrogant" and "ambitious" and another prosecutor being "robotic" while the defense seemed "warm". WTF were these people thinking.
@Free the Orcas grandma saying it smells like a dead body in there means nothing. The cops for sure searched and inspected her car and came up with nothing. Grandma just said some stupid shit. People can have some pretty nasty cars, mine is basically a dumpster on wheels.
@Old Ironsides Cindy Anthony did later say she was using a figure of speech, but she also has been shown repeatedly lying. Plus she was a nurse for a living, she would know what a dead body smells like. Plus, There are several other testimonies of other friends/family saying the smell was unmistakably a dead body
I wonder if there is a way to prove from the odor that there had in fact been a dead body in there? ALso I wonder if the father was guilty since he did not doubt her. Was that from fear from her speaking up about him?
@Dyonysus777 The prosecution tried to let the jury smell air samples from the car, but the judge denied it. Some professional came in at some point to say that there isn't necessarily a surefire way to tell whether odors are a dead body or not.
@Riley Malloy OK, too bad. It sucks to have such evident evidence in front of you but to be able to do nothing about it. I have seen many detectives that were haunted from such unsolved cases for decades. I think I myself would too. Already I believe this is something I will never forget. Poor little girl. What monstrosity.
@Dyonysus777 There is. They actually used it in the trial but it was a relatively new technology so the jury didn't buy it. It's where you compare the gases present from decomposition of a human body and compare it to the scene of the crime. They found a pretty good match for it confirming there was a dead body in the trunk.
Someones sense of smell is hardly evidence, but as to why police didn't investigate an impounded car that belonged to someone related to a potential crime or dissapearance is astonishing. But did the parents just give it back or something? If you pick up your car from the impound and you recognise the smell of a dead body, you would probably not even take it out of the impound without raising some strong opinions, if you're very certain as ex-police, you'd most likely go straight to the bureau to report a potential crime commited with your car.
@Casey Dub you know, as a democrat, yes we can make jokes about democrats. However, the vibes you give off are that you think voting trump is not something we can joke about, which is why this comment is a big joke.
@Old Ironsides A lot of people know what a decaying body smells like, there isn't much difference if it's human or animal in how it'll end up smelling.
@Free the Orcas Even if there was a dead body in the car, it's just circumstantial. All it would prove is that there was a dead body in the car. In order for a guilty verdict you would also need proof of how the body got in the car, how the body became unalive to begin with, and the defendant's involvement with those events.
Someone acting fishy and lying a lot, while it certainly is very suspicious, is not enough to convict anyone of anything without any concrete evidence.
@Josh Allen the GOAT To judge from the series about homicide cases I have seen, it often seems close to impossible for the prosecutors and detectives to furnish sufficient proof. Perhaps something is wrong regarding the judicial system? Too many loop holes if you have a "good" lawyer who knows them.
@Free the Orcas Personally I believe that she is guilty, but belief has no place in a court of law. Without any way to concretely connect her with any part of the crime there is simply no way to convict her of the murder.
A suspect's behavior and truthfulness cannot be used as evidence unless it contradicts concrete evidence they already have. It can only be used to narrow down suspects and lead the investigation team where to look. This is why the detectives try so hard to get a confession out of the suspects in cases like these where they have very little actual evidence to go off of.
@morrow Now you are just making up excuses on her behalf. It was definitely not a dead rat that she kept in her trunk for a month.
I understand that you shouldn't convict anyone if you can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt but most people agree she killed her and reasonably all the information that we have points to that.
@Free the Orcas you definitely don't have the information that she left the dead kid rotting in the trunk, even if she did murder her. i'm not excusing anybody, a smell just isn't reasonable evidence for that.
The prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
@morrow It is one piece of evidence when combined with other factors. She had her mouth and nose bound with ducktape and was dumped in a ditch within 1 mile of the house. She was transported there somehow. Most likely in the trunk of a car because how the hell else would you transport a dead body?
@MystiKasT They didn't overcharge her. There were several counts: first degree murder, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter. She was found not guilty on all of those counts.
I think it's fair enough to say they could have had more evidence but I think it's pretty sick how you're all trying so desperately to defend this woman. She shows no compassion or remorse over the death of her child. What she did is at the very least child abuse if not murder. Caylee's remains were found in a trashbag with ducktape over her nose and mouth. She was murdered. Who tf you think murdered her?
I don't see it as humane to be so focused on defending the offender when a child is abused or killed.
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Free the Orcas2021-12-20 05:16:43 (edited 2021-12-20 06:28:06 )
You are not her lawyers. Many of you have said you believe she did kill her little daughter but here you all are defending her. You've got your order and your moral compass out of touch.
@Free the Orcas multiple pieces of bad evidence don't mount up to good evidence. good evidence stands on it's own. and we need evidence beyond reasonable doubt for a guilty verdict. not guilty does not mean innocent though. I despise her personally and believe she killed her daughter, still I couldn't find her guilty beyond reasonable doubt. highly likely guilty must still result in a not guilty verdict.
@Free the Orcas we are not defending her per se but the legal standard of proof required in order to take away someone's liberty. it's a slipperly slope to lower this standard, it could result in many innocent being convincted down the line.
The female prosecutor of the OJ case has a show going over this and the computer at Casey’s home wasn’t processed correctly apparently and they have a person say there was a search about suffocation which could have placed Casey at home alone was missed. So many what ifs and potentially different outcomes in this case…
@Free the Orcas I don't know what happened to her, and I don't lose any sleep over it. Just like you don't lose any sleep over thousands of people dying every day in India.
@NoLord That's such a sick, unfair way of putting it. What you are basically saying is "so what, people die all the time". It's all important but the matter we are talking about is the murder of a 2 year old girl.
@morrow She's the last person to see her daughter alive and the only suspect. She lied to the police which is hiding evidence which is basically consciousness of guilt.
She showed no grief or compassion over the death of her daughter which demonstrates that she doesn't value her life.
She was searching up methods of murdering by suffocation. Caylee was killed by suffocation.
Coupled with the fact that the body was dumped within a mile of the house and the car reportedly smelled like a dead body I think that's actually quite a lot of evidence and pretty much accurately sums up what happened.
@NoLord You're accusing me of racism because I'm talking about the death of a 2 year old girl on a video which is specifically about that. Race was literally never a factor in this discussion. Go get some help man.
All the deaths of children are wrong. It's sickening that you're trying to diminish the death of one child by saying "so what, children die all the time and you don't care because you're racist". It's all important.
@Free the Orcas "It is completely normal to obsess about this for decades. I think everyone agrees with that." Why not go pick up trash in your town, if you want to accomplish something real?
@NoLord Bruh you're being weird af right now. Not cool.
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Free the Orcas2021-12-20 13:21:44 (edited 2021-12-20 13:22:44 )
@NoLord If you care about brown babies dying so much more than white babies dying then go do something about it instead of accusing people of racism randomly in the yt comment section.
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Free the Orcas2021-12-20 13:29:45 (edited 2021-12-20 13:35:26 )
@NoLord If you care about that so much more than the death of Caylee then you go do it. You're obviously messed up in the head and trying to belittle the death of a little girl. Get a life and some therapy dude.
@Free the Orcas I think picking up trash is an activity that would suit your intellectual gifts. And it also needs doing, and is a positive step for the world. I'll look for a shabbily dressed person trying to do the right thing, WITH ACTIONS, for once in your miserable life.
@NoLord Since you don't care about the death of Caylee or this case at all I don't know why you commented on this video in the first place. You're belittling the death of a 2 year old girl. It's sad, sickening behaviour.
You're just throwing a temper tantrum and insulting me because you spilled your milk or you threw your toys out of the pram or something. I don't know why tf. I didn't do anything to you.
@Free the Orcas It is shockingly pathetic to me how everyone is so fixated on Casey Anthony that they can't get over her after 10 years. OJ is jealous of this kind of attention. I already knew my suggestion to try to do something productive would fall on deaf ears. Keep commenting, incel!
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Free the Orcas2021-12-20 17:10:25 (edited 2021-12-20 17:13:43 )
@NoLord It's more pathetic how you're commenting on this video and getting mad and insulting when everyone else is just having a fair discussion.
Lmao, calling me incel now. I think this is what they call self-projecting. I feel sorry for any women who have to deal with you in your personal life.
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Free the Orcas2021-12-20 17:12:20 (edited 2021-12-20 17:34:48 )
Your take is so completely off compared to what everyone else has said. It's basically: "so what if one little girl dies because other people die and I'm so angry at all of you for talking about it but I'm a good person because I pick up trash. Eff you!"
Well said, that's exactly right. It's unfortunate sometimes that we end up releasing guilty people too. I'm in the camp that believes this is one of those cases.
@Hayles Actually, it does have a distinct smell. It doesn’t smell like any other animal decomposing, which is why the grandpa’s time in the police force would help him identify it. Most people smelling something like that would just think it’s a bad smell, since their mind has nothing similar to connect it to.
Deny it if you want, sheeple! Some sheeple will call me crazy but at least I'm not a sheeple! Tom McDonough taught me mental strength in the face of the sheeple!
Not to mention the part where they say the her father also noticed the smell and said it was similar to what he’s experienced on the police force. or it was something along those lines at least.
@Old Ironsides that doesn’t explain the why her father who was a police officer who probably did experience it himself, also said that it smelled like a dead body. Your statement is irrelevant
@Righteous Nacho First, Why do you tell me what to do? Second, That term fits very well, if you know what it really means. Edit; Well, i could use the word manipulated instead, but as i remember this case, that term is in no way misused, both blame-shifting and "gaslighting" was in play here. Either way, i don't intend to revisit this video atm. Happy holidays and Marry Christmas.
@Kris B are u saying ppl don't get convicted on circumstantial evidence? Tell that to Scott Peterson. Ppl get convicted for lying to the police, acting wrong after their kid or spouse goes missing, weird lies that don't make sense, etc all the time. She got away with it simply cuz she's pretty. A lot of pretty school teachers got slaps on the hands for sleeping with students, child rape, simply cuz of beauty, while ugly women or men get years for the same crime.
One person testified that they didn't smell the decomposition odor and the jury ran with that. Multiple cans of Febreeze were used on the car. The prosecution didn't point out that not everyone has the same sense of smell.
Casey Anthony was at a bar near me in west palm beach last weekend and someone threw their drink at her. She called the police. Interesting that she can call them that quickly when her life is in danger and not her daughter.
Also it was water! She called the police because someone spilled water on her!!! But it didn't dawn on her to call the police when her daughter was "missing". What a truly terrible excuse for a human being
Well that's a bit ironic! Remember when the narrator says when its something about herself she reacts in a different way. I wonder how she thought she would get away by not even reporting her daughter missing for 31 days. Despicable woman!
@taylor dugey west palm beach. She lives here and has a sort of “anti” paparazzi dedicated on making it as hard as possible for her to show her face in public.
@Lando r just shows how messed up the justice system is. If she can get away with it, imagine all the people in prison for something they didn’t do. The jury couldn’t think for themselves and where manipulated.
Of all the true crime I watch and JCS's videos, I can't seem to make it through this one. It's too frustrating knowing this piece of shit is free. I made it almost half way through this time.
Imagine having a sociopathic, narcissistic, lying, cold blooded daughter who gets pregnant and wants to put the baby up for adoption but the parents are like NOPE. You're keeping it. It's almost like you could see it coming. Yet she still gets away with it
I really hope her friend is okay, you really could hear the love and pain in her voice when she said it would kill her if anything happened to the little girl. so sad.
Sociopaths only love themselevs and are skilled manipulators to a degree most people can not imagine or even be aware off. Unfortunatly i know all to well how sociopaths work as i was in a relationship with one for 7 years and she is so like this women its scary .. Thank god i got out when i did .
If she didn't want her child so bad, why disnt she jist give the little girl up for adoption or hell even just allow the friend to raise her daughter. SMH.
What if the mother is so hurt that she is numb that her daughter is gone? And what if she has been avoiding the pain on purpose because that's a response people can have when they mourn??? You wont be seeing much emotion for her daughter for good reason.
Her mom was so in denial that her daughter was a fraud smh if she was my daughter I would have let her rot in jail. Its obvious she didn't get discipline from her parents for lying. smh
@Ashley Carey Well the feeling is mutual for both sides. And the answer might just be as simple as fear.
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Steve Null2021-06-08 18:26:52 (edited 2021-06-16 08:03:37 )
@Amber Slahlize Utter nonsense. Nothing in the world can justify a behaviour like that. The entire time she was emotionless when talking about her missing daughter, and the only thing that she was worried about was herself.
Going to dance in a hot body contest three days after you daughter's death isn't a sign of depression or sorrow, it's not anger. We aren't talking here of a failed exam or a lost job: your daughter just died but you go partying and in your diary, that no one else is supposed to open, you write you've never been that happy. And the very same day your daughter disappears, you search on the internet for "Foolproof suffocation"? What a coincidence, uh?
Come on, be serious.
I can guarantee you, in Europe she would never have the slightest chance to avoid the jail.
@Steve Null Just because you didn't see her emotions, doesn't mean they weren't there.
And just because she is stressed with her own situation to the point of tears doesn't make her cold-hearted.
What parent wouldn't care about going to jail (because they were suspected of murdering their child) because they only cared about finding their lost child? That's not natural. It's more likely for them to plead innocent, obviously.
So, no, she wasn't behaving as an uncaring parent.
Do people seriously expect her to not care about being arrested for murdering her child to prove that she is innocent of not murdering her child?
This is an asinine position that so many people have taken.
As for her partying, where do people get this information from?
And I'll be honest, it's odd for someone to search something like that, and if she did write such things in her diary, it's a little weird, but not enough to convict someone with murder.
Lets say for the sake of argument she is guilty of murdering her daughter - *there is no proof*.
You can't convict people of a crime without proof.
I knew from the start this monster took that beautiful angels life. Her friend would of took care of her but instead she decides to kill this angel baby and then go partying. I was so sick to my stomach when this came over national news. Makes me sick she got away with this. Nobody should ever call her mother and I hope to God she doesn't ever have another child with her bullshit freedom.
@Amber Slahlize "Are you sure they are looking this information up because they were trying to kill someone? If someone else would do it, I wouldn't jump to such a conclusion.
Sadly her baby died that very day, and it's too much of a coincidence.
Because none of these fact, in itself, would prove anything, but if you look at the whole picture, then everything has its place in the whole story.
It may well be that there are no evidences, no smoking gun and that the sentence is perfectly in order, it doesn't change the fact that she murdered her baby.
And I can tell you that in most of Europe she wouldn't have the slightest chance to avoid the jail: sure, for every little fact you can find a plausible explanation, but the whole picture is crystal clear.
@Steve Null I still have to disagree with your conclusion, but your premise on the matter is accepted and I can even appreciate it. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
@Amber Slahlize If it looks like a goose, walks like a goose, flies like a goose, sounds like a goose, then it's almost certainly a goose. Have a nice day.
@Asdfs Sadfd as a father I couldn’t maintain again my children at 3 would just run up and hug me how do you hurt that.! That’s the worst kind of person.
the search dogs cared more about little Kaylee than the be'achie who birthed her...what we would have given to have a child of our own....but infertility destroyed everything...I'm 69 yrs old and I still cry my heart out, longing for a child and her mom discarded her like trash
And a woman by the name of Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez does exist but she had never met Casey, Caylee, Cindy, George or Lee and had never worked as a babysitter.
I have gone through the most beautiful moments in my life. Buying a house, marrying my loving husband, having my daughter, becoming a US permanent resident, paying off 2 vehicles, soon I’ll give birth to my son who will be my last baby. The only next best thing after that, will be the day Casey Anthony dies and Caylee’s memory is never tainted by her presence on this earth ever again.
Fly high beautiful Caylee. You will never be forgotten.
the call with the mother continues to ask to look in her eyes. my momma always did that to me and my siblings dk how a mother always can tell when her child is lying by looking in their eyes it always freaks me out!!
I followed this case from day one, up until she was acquitted. I remember sitting there, in shock. Casey Anthony is an absolute monster. And she’s walking free, among us. That is highly disturbing.
@DinkleDigeroo I too, wish that this would happen. Statistically speaking, it would spare us poor souls on the other side of the wall from the lion's share of child abuse, since all of the priests would be free to rape children and be protected by their respective churches. I don't think I have ever seen a statement so soaked in unintentional irony before, it's absolutely comical.
Living in the UK I never heard about this case, but after spending the last hour watching this video I feel physically sick she faced absolutely no justice.
but what about the little girl ? Was there an investigation to find out what happened ? was it sort of sent to the cold cases or case closed ? i'm shocked by the verdict
Being a Christian does not afford you magical moral high-ground. You are just as accountable for your actions as anyone else. Anyone who can be complicit in an organization that systematically abuses children, murders indiscriminately, and condemns millions to an eternity of suffering, simply for being born in the wrong geographical region never ceases to astonish me. In light of globalization and historical education, I'm shocked that one's Christian faith hasn't yet become something to keep secret.
The day they released her from the jail here..traffic was backed up roads shut down..they snuck her out the back in fear for her life and she was never seen again.
@Kevin w If you really need a citation to indicate the preponderance of child abuse in religious institutions at this point in time, I really don't know what to say to you.
Caylee went swimming in the pool often. She was always escorted - usually by her Grandmother Cindy. Caylee also habitually wore inflatable arm floats which kept her from drowning when she dove into the pool. There are numerous photos of Caylee playing and diving in the pool with her arm floats. Caylee also knew how to open the sliding glass door which led to her backyard play area and pool. She even had her own play mailbox in the yard - and Caylee enjoyed "checking her mail" frequently to see if anyone left her a treat. There are photos (presented in Court) of Caylee opening the sliding glass door. It's easy to connect the dots ... Caylee dove into the backyard pool thinking that she would stay afloat ... unfortunately she neglected her arm floats. Casey kept her mouth shut because she was traumatized and was protecting other people in the home.
@Eric Wood I agree. There is no such thing as a perfect system. However, if we follow the rules of this system absolutely, then her freedom is the correct result. She absolutely knows exactly what happened to Caylee.
The prosecution should have pushed for Felony Murder, not Murder One. And they should have sought a lesser penalty that the ultimate penalty. I believe if that were the case, Casey would never see the light of day again.
Yep I live a few miles from her parents house. NO ONE around here speaks her name nor do they ever want to hear it again. I’ve seen her parents in Target (strange feeling). Most of us have been hoping to see Casey in Target one more time...She’s too smart for that.
Li’Maren Kudaibergen Ok I’m British and I remember this case and in the U.K. we all knew she was guilty it was OBVIOUS ffs...so I’m baffled how she got away with it.
DinkleDigeroo I saw a comment today on Facebook about a similar situation as this Tl/dr: man gets 40 years for smuggling hundreds of lbs of weed, mother gets 1 year in prison for murdering her baby. The comment said “the govt will punish you harshly for committing the sin of making money without giving them a cut, but a slap on the wrist for infanticide because the child has not yet been able to produce for the system, so no money is being lost”
@Dainsleif Check out Stephanie Harlowe here on YT or search the Ken and Barbie killers. There's plenty of documentaries and books and even a movie about the case. It's disgusting what Homolka got away with.
@Dainsleif I won't make light of the abuses of "religious" organizations, although I call into question why individuals that have no part in them should feel ashamed. Every people group in the world falls into the griever category, as murder/rape/torture/pedophilia/slavery/injustice/war has been a staple of the human race since the beginning. Doesn't make any of it right, but it's the reality of our condition.
Now, I think that these "priests" and people in high places should be held to a higher level of scrutiny and responsibility for their actions. Frankly speaking, their lives should be forfeit for the damage they've done and continue to do. And until they are held accountable, they do damage to not only themselves but to the "god" they say they serve. But I for one will not be made to feel guilty or be silenced about my own faith. Which has nothing to do with them. Peace.
SuperBeefz, oh okay. And in a later interview, when asked what happened to Caylee, Casey said nothing about a drowning. She needs to be in prison. I’m just sick that she is out and free. It makes me sick to my stomach.
@SuperBeefz , I’m sure she went through medical examination, I would be interested in hearing what the results were. She clearly has issues. I don’t understand the verdict at all. They bought that she drown, and Casey was out partying damn near every night. If that was my child, I would have immediately called 911, holding her body until they arrived. Hell, they probably would have had to pry her from me. The way she threw her father under the bus, just shows what kind of person she is. I didn’t buy that, nor was there proof. Of course not, it’s Ms Liar Anthony. That case will stay with me, as a horrible injustice to that beautiful baby girl.
@Autumn Fragrance So just let's ignore all evidence in the car, the duck tape placed on her face to suffocate her, and the fact that the mother didn't call 911 for a drowned child.
Watching her talk to her parents in jail and hearing her tell her father that he had been a wonderful father and grandfather and then turning around and calling him a child molester in court That is fucking heart breaking That woman truly is a monster
They just made random accusation that her dad sexually abused her when she was a child (with no supporting evidence or any kind of proof). For the same person she admitted herself to be the most wonderful father one can ever have. She sure is a disgusting person that got the benefit of doubt. I feel sorry for her family and friends and for Kaley who had to die either because of her moms negligence or cold hearted murder. Rip Kaley
@Zain Shahid how could there be any proof to that lol. just because she is a bad person and lied about a lot of stuff it doesn't mean that she necessarily lied about that one too. in sexual assault accusations there's barely proof, therefore you always have to choose the side you are on: the alleged assaulter's or the alleged victim's. you are choosing the assaulter's
That was part of the defense’s strategy to portray the whole family as deeply dysfunctional. Baez also had Casey’s brother take a DNA test to see if he was the father of Caylee. I assume Baez knew that the brother was not the father, but he was doing everything he could to demonstrate to the jury that the whole family—not just Casey—had serious issues.
@M what about her mom, ofcourse she can verify such accusation or a close family relative...and about what you said me choosing the assaulter's side, I'm not sure what's that supposed to mean since I'm only on Caley's side (the real victim in this case) I'm just not naive enough like you to buy whatever lie the defence has to say just to make her look what some sort of a victim 👎 even the court find the accusation completely baseless and a desperate effort just to gain some sympathy from the jury and asked the jury to not even consider this accusation in making the decision
@Tyler Satterfield and, shockingly enough, this worked. He successfully turned a CHILDS MURDER CASE into an abused adult who is so broken she HAD to eliminate her own daughter.
Yeah.. .so broken she was over here partying and NOT supporting her child, leaving her grandparents to take care of baby. Btw, if your father really abused you as you claim, why in the HELL are you willing to let them care for your daughter and risk it happening to her?!?!
@Steph Severe well said also no parent would go out participate in a "Hot Body Contest" after such tragic event...Indeed this world is wild She's lucky she got a stupid jury and a smart lawyer
@MrGlennJohnsen @MrGlennJohnsen you covered alot of aspects for why she might have done such a crime... And I completely agree with you whatever her mental state was she either did it herself or had part in it, I'm not a psychologist but even if she had something wrong with her mental state such heinous crime can't be ignored she should either be institutionalized or put behind bars. But in both cases she should not be allowed to walk freely in the society
The jury and the prosecution fucked this case. Asking for the death penalty is tough for a jury, especially in this situation. When you're sentencing someone to death, you want to be absolutely 1000 percent certain that the person did it.
Let's be honest here, if a child accidentally drowned, and you were afraid that you would get in trouble for child endangerment, there's no need for duct tape to the nose and mouth. It's what you would do if you're trying to bind/suffocate/restrain a person. Aside from the duct tape, the only thing else they have her on the hook for is all of the lying. Which they in fact charged her. With that being said, I just can't see how you leave that courtroom thinking that everything was okay there. Making up all of these stories, defamation of another person's character (the nanny) and so on, is straight up deceptive and they let her get away with it. I can't imagine seeing all of this and being like, yeah, she deserves freedom.
If there were a lesser punishment, (not a death sentence) I feel like there would have been a better chance of a guilty verdict. Prosecution overplayed their hand, and let a most likely guilty person go free.
1:06:45 That moment you have to try to make it seem like you are vindicatex and not that you are trying to suppress your absolute delight that once again you have escaped all consequences.
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Andy White2022-06-01 15:14:50 (edited 2022-06-01 17:40:28 )
29:55 - she slips into past tense when talking about her 'missing' daughter then catches and corrects herself.
Cold blood murderer and a pathetic liar. This is such a ridiculous case that I suspect a jury has been hypnotized or something, otherwise, it's hard to explain.
Casey: I entrusted her to my nanny, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, a half black, half Puerto Rican girl, who moved down from New York to Florida to study Viticulture and Oenology, amidst the separation of her parents Victor and Isabella and whom was connected to me through our mutual acquaintances Jeffrey Hopkins and Juliette Lewis...
Jodi: I kicked a dog once. His name was... Doggy Boy.
@Glennfield89 I can't fathom why the prosecution didn't push that further, unless they tried and it just didn't stick... of course i'm not privy to the inner workings of the DA and prosecutors where this took place, so I really don't know what they did exactly, but I didn't hear it mentioned in the closing statement shown. If they had the searches, they had the time of the searches. Which means they could have tied it directly to the time she claims her child drowned in a pool. This whole thing blows my mind... and shows just how easy it is to project what you're doing onto someone else to draw the attention from yourself. That defense attorney is a master at manipulation.
@Glennfield89 Wait... I'm 10 minutes in and struggling to comprehend how she isn't going to be found guilty besides an insanity plea. What did the defence say? "Well yes she lied about every single thing, but you don't have a body so hah sucks to be you prosecutor!"
@Barnesofthenorth She was only jailed for lying to the police. Jury acquitted her because of lack of proof beyond reasonable doubt. 4 counts of lying with 1 year sentence each, of which she "served" around only 3 years due to good behavior. I remember jury regretting it but they couldn't do anything. It sucks.
@mark White , young, attractive, middle-class privilege. Don't forget that the first person Casey accused was a Ms. Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, a Woman of Color. Racism was her Plan A and her Plan B was to make herself the child victim so everyone would forget about Caylee. Black women get convicted of child endangerment for leaving their kids home alone while they're at work or for leaving them in the car during a job interview. "Female privilege" is only a thing if you have every other type of privilege, which would make it pretty circumstantial.
@Jessi @level up The main reason she was acquitted was because she’s a female, her race didn’t really make a difference. Men of all races make up the majority of prisoners in America. Men of all races get much harsher sentences than women for the same crimes.
@Jessi According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP), 93.2 percent of federal inmates are men, and only 6.8 percent are women. According to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) in 2018 Black males accounted for 34% of the total male prison population, white males 29%, and Hispanic males 24%. White females comprised 47% of the female prison population in comparison to Black females who accounted for 18% of the female population.
@Jessi Okay then compare the rate at which black females get incarcerated to black males. I’m sure you already know, black males get incarcerated at a way higher rate.
@mark You said it yourself the prison population right now is 93% male and 7% female. Unless you think that over 80% of women get away with it you can tell there's a big difference there even if we account for bias.
Wow I really thought she was found guilty, strange how forgettable she makes herself
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Normal Human2022-02-07 23:07:05 (edited 2022-04-04 19:33:17 )
Even if it was reasonably doubtful that Casey killed her daughter, she should’ve at least been charged with child neglect or child abuse
Not saying that I doubt she did it, it’s just that you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to arrest someone for murder and she didn’t get arrested for murder
I don't know the details, but from what Ive seen I think the prosecutors failed by not dismissing well enough the defense's argument. They're argument is "Casey killed her daughter because she didn't report it for 30 days", but if the defense is arguing that the father killed the child and she simply hidden the information then the argument of murder is off, unless you manage to debunk the defense's argument.
Of course that would still constitute a crime as an accomplice, but I don't think they charged her for that.
@Throbbing Fellow I think if this were a BIPOC man, who behaved as CA did with the false statements, drinking, smoking weed, night life, etc., the guy would have got the death sentence for this crime.
@SB I get what you mean; in so much as this was about a young, moderately attractive, white, female. The point so many are putting forth is that the outcome of the trial would likely have been much different had the defendant displayed the exact same behaviour as the defendant had, Just ask yourself (indulge me a bit, won't you?); if you were in the exact same circumstance as the defendant, would you rather have been a young, white woman with a "gift" for spinning tales or a young. Black male?? Can you take just a moment and answer honestly in which supposition would you feel more confident in possibly giving you the best chance at an acquittal?
I honestly don't understand why they dropped the charges of child neglect. I'm sure the jury would have found her guilty of child neglect. If they couldn't even determine how the baby died nor the timeline, they shouldn't have dropped that charge.
What’s so crazy is that the jury was expecting some csi crap, she was the last person to be with kaylee, had no remorse about her child missing although mostly circumstantial evidence I think the jury failed to understand that this is allowed to be used as evidence in court, we don’t need to see the car crash to know that it happened. This women legit got away with murdering her child and she acts like Diane downs.
@Alice Tully-Hall sadly they need to prove intent to help with the murder for her to be convicted of being an accomplice. nice try tho'. maybe obstruction or impeding an investigation, that way all that runaround and inventing nanny etc can be entered as evidence for that charge. if she gets convicted of that they have greater ability to dig and use more evidence for future charge. prosecution should've started with obstruction/impeding charge then escalate it to abuse/manslaughter charge. murder is very very hard to prove. that way they take all diversionary tactics like "daddy touched me" away from defence.
@Alice Tully-Hall on another topic, i can relate to SB totally. my european country was in league with african and asian nations during the cold war (independent league of nations) and our moto was "brotherhood and unity". that is what i have known for most of my life. i have only heard about racism from history and philosophy classes as some distant falacy of wayward americans that nacionalist socialist party adopted into its creed. instead of us immersing ourselves into racism how about y'all learn about facts that there is only one race of mankind. the human race. other races of man went extinct (like neardenthals). skin colour is the result of exact same process as eye or hair colour. i don't see anyone being racist to grey eyed people... lets learn more about the good and just enough about bad to not propagate it, ok?
@Badgal Kia Which do you think is correct? 1. Everything is about color of skin in 90% of cases 2. Corruption and bad judges in 90% of cases 3. Comparable mix of both
How do you suggest it was reasonably doubtful she killed her daughter?? She lied every step of the way and knew where to find the body, no one else was involved in the case!
@Sarah Wales there basically was not a body meaning there was no cause of death not saying she didn't kill her daughter but there was no evidence in that respect.
@umungus i never saw a black or white person. i have seen all noises from pale rosy to dark brown like wenge. and one albino but he still wasn't white. i see colours just fine and all noises (pink, brown, azure, purple etc) but i know enough about biology to understand how it comes and physics what it actually is. i had enough of education in history to know how the notion of races appeared. nowhere is there an idea that race is something transversal but i saw myself becoming so dark after 2 weeks in the sun that i can pass for an lighter african. skin colour is originated by the same process as hair or eye colour but, unlike those, it is easily influenced by environment in very short time. there is no way something so fragile can be basis of something so divisive. so i reject the premise. if you want any real difference in physiology as division point for races we have to realise all living humans are just too similar to be anything more then one race. anything else is ilogical. math don't lie. and i could care less for americans. my culture is 50x older then their first settlers. i got real sh*t to think about like saving bees then some delusional nonsense invented by prejudiced morons (and i use that term in clinical sense).
@umungus that is not a belief. belief is taking something as truth without evidence that it is so. people like to conflate it with faith or knowledge. faith is hope (expectation both based on previous experience or unbased) that something will happen. knowledge is based on facts. so it can't be belief as it has factual evidence in such undsputable abundance to be considered knowledge. nothing anyone of us thinks about it will change it. it is. just that. we can either conform to factual state of reality that there is less difference from random european to a finnish northerner than that same northerner has to an african tribal rando in eastern africa or be delusional. and genetics clearly shows it. outward appearance is just adaptability to environment but genetic similarity of I1 haplogroup to major african groups is greater than any I1 has to any other european (excluding I2, they are of the same lineage). i understand what you are trying to say but you either have to be more precise or more verbose to avoid confusion.
@umungus real vs fantasy is not nitpicking. it is exact antonym. complete contrast. and i didn't avoid anything. i was clear what i think of american history of prejudice. there is nothing more to say on that topic. other things were less clear so i made extensive effort to be clear on them. unlike you, i avoided to use "literal" to say "figurative". and then i offered reasonable basis for that based on verifiable facts. it is not my problem that you are uncustomed with reading that few dozen words looks like an essay to you. if this is long and tedious to you, you should avoid any scientific publication. we write it very dry, factual and detailed.
@Alice Tully-Hall i would much rather be the young attractive white women. Being young and attractive will get you so far with minimal effort in this country if you use it right
Agree , specially if the girl was found with ducktape on her mouth and nose Who would disguise a supposed pool accident in an homicide ?? Makes no sense
She was charged with child abuse. Was ruled not guilty. If they considered an accident to be a possibility, that kind of rules out every charge of mistreatment. Abuse, manslaughter, murder, all not guilty. I believe she did it. But believes don't matter. Thats just bad luck there. Guilt needs to be proven and what the prosecution had was just not enough. Not really blaming them though, even though they messed some things up, like the computer specialist who was wrong about her internet searches. But as said, it was just bad luck for them. The body was found too late to determine the cause of death, no one saw anything, no clear evidence for the chloroform + duct tape theory, no confession. It sucks when a murderer gets away with it, but that is just not enough for death row.
@Pog there was she was the only one who saw her daughter and when she went missing instead of calling the police she started partying she wrote in her journal that it was worth it
@rosaaa putony “if she was a man…” “because of a racist and biased judicial system” wow I didn’t know racism was about gender
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some idiot2022-03-23 06:08:53 (edited 2022-03-23 06:09:12 )
@Goingby20s i mean they kinda made up for it in forensic evidence didnt they? unless im remembering things wrong. jose baez practically stole the show regardless i felt.
@Y they were also to hungry for publicity and just wanted a huge case to look huger so they win it and get more fame and recognition from it like imagine what a name you did get for such a case.. sadly the wrong people made their name bigger
@Aimee G. Spikes similar in the jodi arias case! Again an attractive lookn white woman but with the jodi arias case she didn't get off the murder charge!
🤔 Just for lying to police nothing more and got acquitted of all charges against her...ain’t it a wonderful life Casey enjoy you got what you wanted Cheers🍾🥂
For real !! But her lawyer was so good he convinced a jury that there was to much doubt. So in short the prosecutors were very weak shame on them and unfortunately or fortunately the burden of proof is the on prosecution and they failed 😞
Detective: "Do you know the hotdog vendor that sells me hotdogs every lunchtime down the street?"
Casey: "Yes that's Xavier Versoza-Gütenburg and he was originally from the Northern part of Germany, moved to Upstate New York in February 5th of 1993, became a US citizen 3 years later, studied astrophysics in John Hopkins University 5 years ago, graduated, moved to South Carolina 9 months ago, and just finished packing his bags to move to North Dakota this morning. But no I don't have any contact with him offhand."
@Justin Harris Jury: "We see how pretty much all information she has provided throughout this whole investigation was falsified to purposely mislead detectives. But the speech that her lawyer gave on court was so sad. Not guilty.
@Justin Harris It's crazy to think that if this case happened in another country where the concept of "beyond reasonable doubt" could be twisted for the favor of the victim, perhaps in Japan where prosecutions have a 99% conviction rate of guilty verdicts, true "justice" would have been served against Casey Anthony.
Makes you wonder if a system wherein the judgement of one's character and motives could overcome the lack of evidence would work better or worse. I guess in rare cases like this, it would work better.
Just fuck it Idk man life is hard and humans are bullshit creatures that deserve a design overhaul.
@Re!gn Japan has its faults when it comes to that 99% conviction rate. There are a couple cases in which someone has been basically found innocent but Japan keeps them in jail to keep the conviction rate so high. They like that high number and don't want to be wrong.
@Tilearian Yes of course. I didn't say that it's a better system, I just made it an example of how things must've turned out if Casey's conviction were to be decided somewhere else and how that makes the "justice" system so weird.
In fact, I think Japan's system is worse due to the fact that there's most likely more cases of innocent defendants being convicted as opposed to rightful convictions that would otherwise be found not guilty in another country.
@Re!gn So true! Look up the Sushi Murders of 1993 in Osaka, wherein Hamiko Fugisaka, a man originally from Tokyo, perpetrated a series of heinous crimes before fleeing to Osaka and assuming the identity of three different female bar hostesses, and went undetected for nearly three months before moving to upstate New York and posing as a dental hygienist. Then traveling to Little Rock AK to produce and star in a one-man show of comedy, dancing, juggling, and assorted hijinx and later barely escaping capture by illegally entering Switzerland and becoming a tram operator a the base of the Matterhorn mountain, despite speaking no English, German, or French, and posing as a student from Uganda, through the use of makeup and wigs. After which he found his way to Florida where he worked at an alligator ranch, a proctologists office, and as a limo driver for wealthy clients with learning disabilities, where he was finally discovered after being apprehended during an arrest for exposing himself in public to a group of former Soviet communist-era senior citizens at a local casino. When he was finally extradited back to Japan, he went to trial and was found guilty of only one count: preparing sushi without a licence. He served only 8 months and is now a transgendered politician running for office. True story.
Justin Harris I can’t believe that! South Park is weak and upsetting but it’s free unless you pay the bills. But living with mommy and not paying any bills so it’s free.! But you should still get a job cause mommy won’t be there forever!
Sir Damned2020-08-05 16:07:56 (edited 2020-08-05 16:08:18 )
Reign you're being way too generous with your interpretation here. She isn't nearly smart enough to know what any of those things or places are, which is why everyone and their mother was just "from New York" and they all happened to move around a lot.
@Re!gn Youre so right and thats what bugs me so much about that ruling. It calls into question what "Reasonable doubt" really is inside of a courtroom. I think perhaps the American court system has a small over reliance on motive and direct forensic evidence. Obviously those two factors are very important and are there to protect citizens, but where do we draw the line? At what point does enough circumstantial evidence become enough for a conviction? Or does it ever? Thats ultimately the question im asking myself after this case study.
@Robert . M How do you infer that i don't work and pay no bills because i compared the court ruling to an episode of South Park? We're having a conversation here bro, go talk shit somewhere else lol
Bhatt Hole ok I actually took a few seconds to look that up and it's as made up as it sounded, but life is crazy like that so I never doubt anything much these days
It seemed like she'd prepared the whole script. But I've never seen one of these vids where they remembered it all and didn't trip themselves up -- except for the Disney visit. I don't get why she did that. Then again, I don't think like her.
Can't believe how people compliment the attorney for being "so skillful". He just manipulated you guys into thinking, that it's his job to defend her, based on what she tells him. He knew that she killed her daughter. But he is very likely another sociopath, who has no problems with creating lie constructs, without any moral/ethical issues. He even had the person who created this video in his pocket: "say about the attorney what you want, but the following scene is expertly done..." - Moral of the story: People with overwhelming rhetorics and the skill, to simulate empathy in their voices, are dominating. I'm an attorney myself, but in europe. You'll see those people day in and day out. In fact, it's the job with the highest amount of sociopaths. Their skill of pathological lying is clinical. But you'll also get behind their masks, if you closely pay attention, on some private dinner occasions. Working in this field can make you sick, as you can see what people are capable of, without eben blinking.
I think when they presented that she was raped by her father changed the outcome of this trial. It made it complicated. It’s shitty nonetheless. Wether that’s true or not but it made me sick to my stomach that she was acquitted.
@Jelle Dulay A friend of mine had a interesting theory: "What IF what she said is true? Aaaaand what if the molesting continued and her daughter´s father is her dad?"
I am still puzzled about the fact that she could kill her own daughter so cold-hearted, despite her obvious psychological issues. Her dad´s reaction when it was made public was suprisingly not surprised in my view.
VRKirito - Nerd Universe I also thought of that. So to say she didn’t love the child because of the circumstances. She could’ve just given her away for an adoption if she wasn’t intedning on keeping her. Or had an abortion if it was legal in their state. I could probably understand it but it’s hard to know what’s truth or not. Only them knows. She either did to save the little girl from her rapist dad or she’s just really pathologic. We can’t know for sure.
@Jelle Dulay True. The more you think about the case and all, the more complicated it gets. It´s easy to condemn a person like her as it is in no way understandable what she did. Still, there are many open questions in my view. I wonder what she´s doing in these day and how life turned out for her parents afterwards.
VRKirito - Nerd Universe i think she has a son now. I hope that the baby is safe.
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David Timmons2020-09-15 02:19:35 (edited 2020-09-15 02:27:03 )
cli-clickII Xavier...doesn't exist. Casey did pack bags this morning, but as a store associate at the checkout counter after customers finished shopping at a local Walmart, and she likely doesn't even know where or what Germany even is. In a sworn statement presented in court, the detective later admitted to routinely purchasing bratwurst at lunch, not hot-dogs. In retrospect, this provides us with further evidence that Casey and the detective are pathological liars, and are willing to fabricate the truth for the purpose of deception, and to gain public sympathy. cli-click
Exactly what I said. This was such a high profile NATION case. He got PAID and I mean PAID...... BIG TIME!!!!!! She bought her way out of this. A murderer is free walking the streets. But they lock someone up over a bag of weed these days ? Our justice system is so backwards. This evil soulless thing is guilty on so many levels.
Seriously that would have been her 😂😂😂 I was surprised that she knew backgrounds of the people she named and how they moved or in the process of moving. She knew too much. I found that too much and she was lying a whole lot.
@phoenician god my apologies then, you must have deleted your comment, I read some of what did load for me in my notifications. But yeah, corruption is everywhere.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
@Bhatt Hole I googled the man’s name but could not find the case. Not even with keywords like Osaka, the year 1993, or “sushi murders”. You sure you got the name right?
@Justin Harris Exactly cause this name or the form Xaver is more widely used in the southern part of Germany in the north it would be rather Hein or Fietje, so he probably was a Bavarian refugee who got adopted by the Gütenburg family from Hamburg 😉
@Re!gn let's face it this could only help in America and I'm sure that varies between states Absolute farce from start to finish And doesn't casey now live with one of the detectives on the case and works as a researcher
@Mark Mitchell they probably paid vasco thompson. It is messed up. I feel so bad for the little girl. She deserves justice. It’s all of them against this little girl. I cried so hard when I saw this. It broke my heart. No child should ever experience this.
This is funny but at the same time is really what got the police to believe her at first. Hell even watching this now 13 years later knowing the reality the ease and quickness with how she relayed this "information" would convince me
Not sure if anyone has watched the show the assassination of Gianni Versace on netflix but the killer was the exact way. He was a pathological liar didn’t and made things up as he went along. No one truly knew the real him.
I will never get over the fact that Casey is walking free. There’s just this constant underlying sense of frustration that re-emerges every time I’m reminded of it
All we as a society can do is shame & remind her of her misdeeds the remainder of her breathing days. Making her ‘free’ life a living hell is the least we could do for her daughter who never got the opportunity to live a full life due to her actions.
El Astronaute Casey was indicted on 4 counts of lying under oath to police, serving only 3 years in prison. Her daughter never received justice, as she somehow evaded 1st degree murder, aggravated manslaughter & child abuse charges.
@Victoria Noelle when does that happen....last time people caught up with her she was chilling in a bar, attending BLM marches and shit, and for the most lives life like this never happened
The parents of hundreds of thousands of babies who get aborted every year get to walk free too as do the doctors so why do you care so much about this one case? Just pretend she made a post-birth abortion and you will get over it.
The white guy who shot the black guy once in self defense after he was attacked, who accidentally killed him, waited for police, volunteered all information, got the MAXIMUM 30 years, despite having no previous criminal record. The white woman who tried to kill her husband by a hired gun after defrauding him of his house, and who lied through the entire court case and has never took any responsibility for her actions, got a measly 15 years, 6 of which were house arrest. The US court system is run by simps.
El Astronaute Mary has no chill lollll I didn’t find anything wrong with your question. It is quite a shocking fact that she is out walking free when everything is considered. Our justice system is far from perfect.
@meredocu it's so true though. think about the hypocrisy. people are seething about this yet are totally ok with literally killing babies after they're born or in the womb
@Dynamite this child had a life, feelings, personality, knew the world outside, had a name, an identity. Was given this person Casey as her mother. someone she depended on for all her needs... who needed her to nurture her. and she didnt.
being a mom wasnt "cute and exciting" anymore. a 6 week old fetus doesnt even have a sex characteristics developed until about 7-8 weeks. nothing is completely developed until you give birth, and even then its still growing. thats why abortion is illegal after 10 weeks because at 20 weeks because can it be deemed viable and savable if something were to happen in utero or to the mother medically. it is indeed VERY different.
It's because of the Halo effect look it up on here. there's plenty of videos that talk about it. We judge people based on their physical appearance, Had Casey Anthony been fat and ugly? She would have been found GUILTY.
@ドット A lot of states actually have no limits or the limits can be blocked by courts. Sexual differentiation also happens around week 6-7 in embryonic development but that doesn't even matter because it's still a life because once conception occurs, left to its natural growth, it will keep growing just as any human does until full maturity. At 8 weeks gestation, facial sensory receptors appear and by 14 weeks gestation, sensory fibers grow into the spinal cord and connections are made with the thalamus (part of the brain). Many abortions are deemed legal by this time. There is just no defense for abortion and in this case, killing of a 2 year old is quite similar to it. They can both feel pain. You can't just say the baby in the womb is not a life because of the location, that it's just not outside yet. That makes no sense.
@Dynamite I understand your point about it being hypocritical. Some people don't bat an eye at abortion, but care about this.
I think the issue is for many of us the waters are muddied. Maybe we even deceive ourselves to not feel like killers if it is in fact more concrete and obvious. Is it a person, if so at what point? Is there consciousness, are they self aware? Is is just a bunch of tissues at this point? What are we really doing when we abort?
We don't see anything tangible and recognizable and sympathizable like a human face. At best an outline or shadow. It may be harder to empathize when we don't know if it's a person or can clearly ascertain it as a person the normal way, by being able to physically see, observe, and interact with it. Whereas in this case we clearly know it's a person with wants and feelings and a personality through direct experience.
She's fully aware this is a person and is physically, herself, snuffing them out of existence. I think this could be what allows people to have these seemingly contradictory views.
I think you're right and hit the nail on the head when you said that many people escape the thought of facing the issue and moral dilemma associated with it. And I agree that people can detach the value of life from the unborn compared to children that we see running around due to the fact that the unborn are not as distinguishable.
However, I think the biggest factor that contributed to desensitizing the masses and normalizing the idea of abortion was the decades of indoctrination starting in the mid 20th century in schools as well as the media and pop-culture. The movement away from tradition and religion has manifested a lot of the problems we see in society today. Morality is subjective to many and they can't be reasoned with when the issue of abortion comes up. The definition and value of life is seen as subjective so there is no reasoning in that.
@Dynamite I get you but also. It's still illegal to kill a person or lie to the police with false information. Abortion or not. She just in the state of perpetual lying.
Honestly I don't see how she could live a normal life after this. Everyone knows she constantly lies, and I don't think anyone would hire someone like that for any job. I think prison is the only place where she can live an actual life where she can be provided for, not like she deserves it.
Don't worry. We as humans are not meant to judge. When she dies, God will judge her for everything she's done/ will do. God will not let the murder of that baby go unnoticed and unjustified just like we let it get here on Earth. We can't do anything about it, so don't worry or even think about it. Give it to God.
If it helps, she would have been a terrible mother, and her daughter would have a miserable childhood. It would have been better if Casey never had a child
@I Thought It Was Funny she looks gross to me. I know its shallow but just saying since we are talking about it. So tragic. Can't get over gone for a month and no report
@Abraham Technology we probably didn't read the same thing. why would she search how to suffocate a child on google, and why did they find human decomposition in her car? unless all that was a fabrication or was found later on after the case was dismissed. or, as people said above, the judges are all simps.
also, as from other comments, abortion and morality is indeed different for each person. for example i believe each individual semen, even before they turn into a child, is already a living being, which is why you can think that trillions of possible persons have died since you were 12 years old, but others may not agree with me
@Rocky M. G. funny how all of you calling @Mary out to be a "Karen" actually sound like real Karens. And there are so many of you to promptly gang up on one, a true Karen behavior.
@Mads Erik Horstad In US justice system, once you've gone through trial, and have received your verdict, you cannot be retried again for the same case. Her parents have proved total enablers when it came to their daughter, so I doubt that they would file in a separate case...it's all in all tragic for that little girl, and for the rest of us that have to see this injustice exist.
@AnataBakka Again, no one knows what killed Caylee, let alone who hid her. It's possible that it was Casey, but that's all that is, a possibility, and that only would prove that she hid her, not that she killed her. Casey Anthony having the damaged psyche she does has the capability of hiding a dead body she comes across, but since she hasn't been connected with any other assaults or murders, it is unlikely she ever murdered anyone.
@Dynamite A fetus is not it's own entity therefore not a human nor is it entitled to any rights as a human. It's scary that you equate a medical procedure to the death of a living breathing person.
@Alex Nezhynsky of course she should not have been a parent! She had options though, abortion, adoption or even her parents. No doubt her parents would have been more than willing to care for her child while she went out and partied. Let's just hope she never becomes a mother again.
@jonlewis Sadly you're correct. If they had gone for a lesser charge, they would have been able to succeed. First degree murder is very difficult to prove in court as it has to be proven "without a shadow of doubt" along with premeditated intent to kill.
@70ne This is the one video where it's unclear of who killed her child, or if her child was even killed by another human. There's no evidence, just conjecture. I was taught to take conjecture with a grain of salt, for conjecture is toxic. Also, I guess me having empathy is what's "wrong" with me to you.
@Abraham Technology 🙄 so someone constantly lying, covering up the death, having the smell of a dead body in her car, and all the other evidence, isn’t enough evidence for you?
@Jcsj_1995 All that proves is a dead body may have been in a car. It's not evidence of HER killing anyone. At worst it's something related to corpse abuse. I hope you never have kids.
@Jcsj_1995 Herself? Someone else? Accident? Everything you're claiming is not evidenced. I have empathy. If you think having empathy is wrong, then you have issues.
@Abraham Technology so you think the CHILD killed herself? I have empathy, but I have empathy for the child that was murdered. Not for the mother that covered it up, not for the mother that went and partied when her daughter was “missing” not for the mother that lied to the police and sent them on a goose chase, not for the mother that had her daughters dead body in her car for who knows how long, not for the mother that looked like she didn’t care when her daughter was “missing”.
@Abraham Technology like I said even if it was an accident, she still fucking covered it up for a month, lied to the police, put her dead body in her car, and went to parties after her daughter died.
@Jcsj_1995 Just keep telling that to yourself. If I follow your logic than 3yo kid isn't human as well being it's not quite developed yet. It's about killing the possibility of the future. It will all be clear to you when you meet your creator, which you certainly will. Sooner than later.
@Dynamite The way you described a fetus at a certain amount of weeks is equivalent to the significance of a bug. It feels, it moves, perhaps it breathes, though it's not comparable to the complex beings that we are as humans. Yes, there are some of us that don't want to kill these bugs because of some "moral dilemma" that you speak of, but do we consider it murder if someone else does? Of course not, because these bugs are not in a state of consciousness or awareness of their own identity to the same degree that human beings are. They more or less are simply surviving by instinct. They aren't emotionally connected to their existence nor do they apply any significance to life itself. If you think simply being able to feel or sense your surroundings is the equivalent of taking the life of a human being with feelings and emotions and thoughts and an identity, then you're severely misconstrued.
@cornpipe prolife means opposed to abortion and euthanize . I don't have to adopt all the stray animals to be opposed to animal testing. The problem with anything other than prolife is that you're allowing, encouraging, and or supporting the genocide of the most innocent among us.
@Jcsj_1995 is the baby human? Yes. It's not a chicken or cow, the species is human. Is the baby alive? Yes. If it was not alive then it could not grow. It became a life at conception. Is it murder to kill a baby? Yes. 95% of biologists agree that life begins at conception. Anyone that isn't prolife is sadistic, evil, uneducated and desensitized to genocide. You have to tell yourself that the baby isn't "*really* a baby" because if you faced the facts and realized that you have been supporting the genocide of Innocents, you would likely take your own life or at the very least hate yourself. And you wouldn't be missed.
@Victoria Noelle that's just no good... Don't waste your life away ruining someone else's. I know it's frustrating but that won't change what happened. You don't owe it to anyone, especially not to that kid. She's dead and depending on what you believe in in a better place now. If your religious you should be happy that Casey is going to hell or something... Idk I'm not religious. But yeah! Don't waste your life away!
@Singing Sunflower I don't care. Usually when judge makes a stupid decision its parents who bribe them or you've got a lawyer that knows judge personally
She wasn't "proven not guilty." She is guilty, but the jury didn't feel certain enough about it to render a guilty verdict, due to reasonable doubt. I don't agree with their verdict but it's not my decision.
@MrJpegi bruh, where in europe do you live, that judges are that easily corrupted? Does not really sound realistic in a case like this one, or somewhat similar.
@Adalbert Schwafel I'm from the balkans, and while not easily, this shit really does happen. We just had a case where one of the people of stature accused a bunch of judges of taking bribes, since he finally got skewered
@DaleDoback1888 Well I live in Germany, so therefore + my personal moral, big yikes to murdering people imprisoned by the state... So I am very much against your idea, but wish you as a person a good day nevertheless
Obviously she was guilty and a terrible person so I dont doubt that she was happy to be found not guilty, but you can tell she is (whether she is putting on a show or not) crying and smiling in relief and not smiling smugly. That facial expression that sort of looks like a smile is not uncommon at all when people are crying, I do it too. You can see her eyebrows are scrunched up and there are tears, the "smile" like expression is a similar reflex as those things when crying
@shaft9000 While the initial verdict is made by the jury, a judge can indeed, overrule a jury's decision, which is what should have happened in this bizarre case.
@Mr Artician but a judge may only overturn a guilty verdict to not guilty. Honestly this is a failure of the investigation team. A ton of circumstance evidence does not meet the burden of proof the state must show. If anything the judge should have redirected the prosecution during prima facia to re-file when they meet burden. But to bind it over you only need some evidence and this is what you get.
Karol Pasiut2022-01-16 15:43:56 (edited 2022-01-16 15:44:41 )
@Adalbert Schwafel This was an ordinary family, so you're right.
But I'll give you an example - there was a very famous case in Poland of Tomasz Komenda - essentially a 15 year old girl was brutally raped, left naked and unconscious in winter and died of exposure and internal bleeding.
No strong evidence ever pointed to mr Komenda, he even had a strong alibi - but he was sentenced for life, and got out of prison after 18 years after proving his innocence.
After that two other guys were found guilty, one of them has been let go from custody after being sentenced for 25 years in prison, to wait for jail admission as a free man...
There are findings of multiple bizarre and nonsensical missteps in the investigation, on behalf of the police, the prosecutors and even judges, multiple witnesses has died either supposedly committing suicide or in a car crashes. Not a single person was faced criminal charges for corruption or even negligence in the investigation.
Mr. Komenda was granted around 500k $ (roughly an equivalent of 1mln $ if it happened in the US) for his time spent in prison (that was by far the largest amount of cash anyone ever got from polish government as a compensation - a striking contrast to 45k $ a guy was granted for being wrongfully arrested for just three days in Cananda)
She's free, but fortunately she's not really free. Everywhere she goes she will face nothing but disdain and disgust. And, im happy videos like this will continue to pop up and give her case renewed attention, so people don't forget.
It's quite simple to dissappear if u want to. It just takes dedication and planning. Name change, subtle plastic surgery that changes your face just enough, moving to a small town where nobody knows you...
im pretty sure she got married n is jus living a normal life now its crazy how she really did get away w it yall think she cares ab others ppl opinions
Even if she is met with disdain and disgust, I doubt it'll matter to her if she's sociopathic. She probably won't start feeling remorse for it any time soon. The only consequence that'll reach her is doors closing, (and only as annoyance) fewer opportunities available to get her what she wants in life.
Yes this!! This is what I’ve always said about this case. The justice system let this country down letting her walk- but it’s now our job as a society to hold her accountable!! We can’t forget that.
teissy gonzalez she isn’t married but she is happy and does photography and is training to be a private investigator by the PI her defense team hired. She’s such a shitty human that should’ve gotten the death penalty.
That girls has already made excuses to herself and she will just talk her way out of any questions people have for her. If someone see her she probably just says it's not her.
That defense attorney is an accomplice in the murder of a child. Lawyers who defend people like this are just horrible people and should be gone of this world.
@kube they are to blame as well but raising this sociopath and coverup her lies which allowed this woman to think she could get away with it. The worst part is she did get away with that.
@Taco Monster its literally their job what theyre not an accomplice in murder, thats a toatal misuse of the phrase. the deed had already been done and theyre sinply presenting the evidence and trying to get her a lesser sentence, or none at all
@phanatic215 it IS shocking. Why didn't they report? Or talk with the police? Mind blowing. I'm assuming they had regular time with her prior to her disappearance, but after a month...they hadn't talked to police or anything? What?
@randy Yes. Isn't it amazing how easy/clever one can create doubt. Just a minute fraction of doubt and, BINGO, what appeared a foregone conclusion turned completely the other way round. Why, that defense attorney could even have stated the child attempted to kill her mother and the mother killed her child in self defence and the jury may have succumbed to DOUBT. Though highly unlikely, ANYTHING is possible.
Taco Monster just an input on your comment, I know a few defense lawyers as good friends, and they themselves have said that if it wasn’t their job, they wouldn’t do it. Doesn’t make it right - but they told me that when defending a guilty person of whatever crime, it’s not something that they want to do. But it’s how they care for their family too. Touchy topic. But you’re not wrong. It isn’t right. People who do things like what happened in this video do not deserve defense.
@Adam Craft I disagree with your last sentence. The way this country was built is so that every single person has the right to a defense in court. Once a line is made, it is too easy to keep moving it. That becomes a slippery slope. First it would be "well Casey (allegedly, and she was found not guilty btw, so not even allegedly at this point) killed her daughter so obviously we shouldn't give her a chance at defending herself." Then it turns into "well the guy obviously r*ped her, she said he did. No defense for him." Or "she clearly robbed that place, no need for a trial. Hang her." No matter how guilty a person may seem of a crime, they should be able to defend themselves. There are many cases of people wrongly convicted, innocent people who go to jail for several years. Could you imagine how much that number would sky rocket if people had the attitude of "people like blank don't deserve a defence" hindsight is always 20-20. It's super easy to look back now and say Casey didn't deserve a defense. But it isn't easy to say where that stops.
@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected The prosecutors dropped the ball… There’s not a mother alive that would let their child be missing for 30days and not ask for help.
@Taco Monster every person in america has the right to an attorney guilty or not, an attorney is not an accomplice for simply fulfilling someone's given right.
Yeah, it's a lie that Casey started and the lawyer only continued it. Can't be too mad at the guy and even if you are there's no legal repercussion for him, because if Casey was held accountable for her killing, the lawyer would just say "I didnt know". He probably has much more moral baggage anyway, you can hear the guilt in his voice way more than Casey's. He knew what he was doing.
The grandparents didnt know Caylee was missing, what could they have done? They were enabling with the high school thing but that's pretty unimportant, and considering everyone (except the jury apparently) knows what actually happened, I doubt the parents continue to support her. They were way more urgent than Casey, especially considering Casey's plan was to just forget about her daughters "drowning" and never tell a soul.
@Taco Monster "that 'tis much more Prudence to acquit two Persons, tho' actually guilty, than to pass Sentence of Condemnation on one that is virtuous and innocent."
@colin hoban I wish Caylee could've just been raised by her grandmother. She'd probably be alive and okay now because it's clear she cared about her way more than her mother did.
@Taco Monster i understand where you are coming from, defending these monsters is a tough job.
In a perfect world the job of a defense attorney is to make sure the procurators are doing their job correctly. So they don't lie and cheat they system.
I know the world isn't perfect, but it's what I want the world to believe
@Jeremy Purdon yes, that should be their job. To make sure they get a fair trial and the law is followed. The problem is a bunch of those crocks are there to make shit up just to get their client out. The ones appointed by the state are usually not too bad as “it is their job” and have to do so even if they believe their client may be guilty. The ones paid by the defendant are there to make money and to get their client out regardless if they are guilty or not.
@Taco Monster yo, Theyre just doing their job and someone has to defend her. Nobody can’t have a lawyer unless they choose to defend themselves. Calm down
@Taco Monster to be faur, thats litterally their job in the ameican legal system. everyone is always entitled to an attorney by law, no matter who the person is.
@Taco Monster Everyone has the right to a fair trial, regardless of how clear cut a case is, because it means they will also receive fair punishment. Corrupt individuals in the judiciary system are far more deranged
@Adam Craft I disagree, everyone should have the right to defense themselves in court, no matter what they did (especially if they are not solid evidence against them). I mean, even nazis had a trial too!.
@Taco Monster No. She’s allowed defense, that is law. You can look at him as a incompetent, although I agree with you that he is a creep.
He also cannot be called an accomplice as he did not have anything to do with Caylee’s passing; he didn’t know Casey before all this. She was not alive at the time her mother called 911
@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected It was a big deal here… I had friends that went to the courthouse. They Said the prosecution dropped the ball
@Taco Monster the attorney is doing their job. While I don’t agree with defending a murderer, every American citizen is allowed to hire an attorney and Caycie hired a very good one. Ultimately it is the decision of the prosecution based with the evidence at hand, and they decided on Caycie‘s sentence . Also just doing their jobs. Again, not defending a murderer, just defending our legal system as it protects us. Well it does if you’re white
People can say what they want. This is why I am grateful that there will be Judgement Day. God will reward all those who did good and got no credit and punish all those who did evil and got no justice.
I guess you'll hate me for this opinion, but I think they made the right decision. There was no direct evidence. This is how the legal system works and it's the only way you can establish a certain degree of justice. So that the evidence counts and not just our gut feeling. My own gut feeling also tells me that she's at least an accomplice in whatever happened. But my gut feeling is based on her being off, being not normal. We can't be judgemental in a law system just because people don't appear normal, have their own traumatic history, personality disorders. All of this can not be considered a contribution to direct evidence. It can contribute to our understanding if a person is a lier. She obviously lies in one line. So we can't take her word for anything. But this doesn't make the evidence more than it is. You can't just say that someone is guilty because they are a bad person, non adapters, even antisocial. Even antisocial people are human and deserve the same rights. Not saying that this one is antisocial though. I think a psychiatrist would have their full share with this one. It's unfortunate that many law systems just distinguish between guilty and not guilty. She at least had a co-responsibility. I think she needs and deserves help from a psychiatric facility. If she had gotten this help before giving birth to a child, this death might have been prevented. It makes me angry how many children have to grow up under the parenting of parents who can't even manage their own lives, who get children for selfish reasons, because a baby is such a cute thing, like a pet, or who need a purpose in life, who need to fill a void, and a child is the perfect candidate to fill a void. They don't get children because they think that they are the perfect candidates to develop a child and provide the support that a child deserves. They don't look into the future and what the future needs. They look at themselves and what they want. They want children. It's their own desire. This is why child abuse is far more common than anyone can imagine. Children can't protect themselves, they don't know how to respond because they don't know what's normal and what not, they don't understand their own rights. So there must be a huge gray number, beyond the huge number we already know, when it gets reported. We only get to see the worst of the worst, but abuse has many shades. Nobody really cares fixing the real causes. All they can do is blame someone, like it's nobody's co-responsibility within a society to contribute to a healthy environment for children. Abuse is an inherited phenomenon. The chain has to be interrupted at one point.
@Taco Monster I understand the fact that you are most probably young and don’t understand the justice system works 🤔👍😂
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I Forgot2021-07-22 22:02:37 (edited 2021-07-22 22:44:16 )
@Taco Monster It's literally their job. The attorney presents the case and deals with their legal stuff. They aren't actually "defending" them in the way you seem to think they are. Defense attorneys are the messenger and make sure they get due process. I get wanting to hate everyone involved, but lawyers are just trying to make sure their clients have rights. They're trying to get the case solved just as much as anyone else. I'm sure those lawyers hate their clients just as much as everyone else does, but they do it because it's their job and their client needs due process. Not to say some lawyers don't put aside morals just to win the case...
Yep.... Her parents have a lot to answer for in the development of her character.... Letting her get away with stuff, no boundaries, no ramifications for her actions. Lying for her...graduation party..?! Police officer father?!...joke.
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Don Robertson2021-07-26 03:46:45 (edited 2021-07-26 03:47:52 )
They will all answer to god. That poor little girl. Any real human can clearly see the mother did it. The jury failed that girl and will burn with the mother.
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Don Robertson2021-07-26 03:51:28 (edited 2021-07-26 03:54:20 )
Her lawyer had to know she was guilty… when dealing with a real TODDLER murderer, you gotta just get paid and throw the case… HE KNEW SHE DID IT, and defended her and lied for the money… for a child killer
@stuck inside Yeah but then her lawyer basically set her dad up as a rapist and mom as a person that ignored that with no evidence and the court seemed to be on his side the whole time. Thats the worst part they were with her the whole time even when she was lying and now she lied about them abusing her to have an excuse for killing a baby. Ridiculous
@Taco Monster every body even criminal deserves legal defense. It's the prosecutor's duty to convince the jury. if the prosecutor can't do his job, don't blame the defense attorney.
I blame the media for releasing the info on the jurors. Anyone in that situation would just go with the first suggestions during deliberation in order to reach an end sooner
@j.c man lawyers and judges them selves are generally not allowed to be in a jury. the system claims they may be too biased against a defendant. But i dont think that makes sense. theyre the most trained people when it comes to logical thinking, they literally have to take a test on it to get into law school, they should be the ones in a jury. maybe even exclusively
@Sharangan S In Finland, where I live, we have what are called layman judges, they're ordinary people who volunteer to participate in court cases. They receive a sort of mini-law school education before beginning, which helps them detect and resist manipulative tactics, avoid bias and view the case in a more professional and objective manner. Then at court there are 2 professional judges and 3 layman judges, and they vote between each other on guilty or not guilty, and what the sentence should be. I think this system works fine, the court cases aren't a circus here where the attorneys make up nonsense and try to appeal to emotions because they know that won't work. The cases focus on evidence and facts. I like it a lot more than the American version
@Exantius E Idk that seems just as bad. In both cases your life is in the hands of random people. Except in your case, the laymen technically could, I’m assuming, overrule the real judges since it’s a 3-2 vote. In the jury system, if the jury makes a crazy ruling, the judge can overrule it.
@Derek G If the laymen judges come up with a "crazy" judgement, the defence/prosecution (whoever was wronged) can appeal to a higher court and even further to the supreme court, neither of which have laymen in them. Besides, it's way easier to mislead the twelve jury members than the three layman judges because of the training they receive. And the practice you referred to, the judge overturning the verdict, almost never happens anyways so that's kind of a moot argument
As I recall, the state couldn't prove how the girl died. If you want to convict someone of murdering her you will need to prove she was murdered to begin with. There are ways to do that. If there isn't sufficient evidence to establish cause of death then you'll need something like a confession. She didn't confess so now what? People say we 'know' she did it, but that's not evidence.
@Exantius E It's a completely different set of values. The foundation of the process in America stems from a fundamental mistrust in the institution of government, elected or otherwise, which is why cases are not typically judged by nothing but appointed bureaucrats and laypeople hand-picked by politicians and political parties like they are in Finland.
@Nicholas Costa bro she had duct tape on her body and Casey literally looked up “fool proof suffocation” that’s basically like finding a book in the library called “murder for dummies”
@Nigganese Beans Bro no I wasn’t disputing that. I just thought this bloke’s comment made no sense because, “she died in a pool,” does not reveal the cause of death like he was trying to imply.
@Coltafanan Studios her defense might try to have her charged with inappropriate handling and/or disposal of a corpse as well as several other smaller charges rather than something as huge as the murder of a child
@Maker Syed seriously? "Her defense" WILL NOT try to have her charged with anything. They are HER 'defense team'. Surely you meant 'the prosecution', or the 'DA's office'. Right? Thanks
There's a duck tape found in her skeleton and then say they died in the pool?????? And then the lawyer continues to say "we will never know how she dies" FULL BS
@Lindsey O’Hara The defence says that the girl drowned in the pool and casey panicked and disposed of the body in the swamp. But thats not what happened, casey suffocated her daughter with duct tape and disposed of her in the swamp.
@Lindsey O’Hara I think the defense was claiming that her daughter died in a pool and she tried to hide the body in the swamp so that it's no longer murder but mishandling a corpse, but like... with duct tape over her face, nose and mouth? It was all bullshit to build doubt around whether she committed the murder or not. It was to build doubt, not to exonerate her, just make everything blurry. And it tragically worked.
@Shane Chartrand that doesn’t make any sense. If a child dies in your pool, most likely there was some negligence involved. Either murder, intentionally drowning, or bad parenting and not watching your 3 year old when she falls in the deep end of a pool
The job of the Defense is NOT to prove anything one way or the other. That is entirely the job of the Prosecutor.
The job of the Defense is to poke enough holes in the Prosecutor's evidence as to cause reasonable doubt.
The Prosecutor is making a claim (of murder in this case), and it is solely their job to prove their claim to be correct. However, if the Defense legitimately has evidence that can prove innocence, then that definitely helps their own case. But it's not the job of the Defense to prove anything.
@sophia Cort Typically, yes. It would be considered as evidence. The problem is that the tapes don't actually prove anything other than she acts differently than a "normal" person. At the end of the day the Prosecution couldn't prove anything, and the Defense was clearly able to throw enough doubt into the mix to cause the jury to not go with the Prosecution.
We all "know" (assume/think/etc) that Casey Anthony killed her daughter (or maybe it was her boyfriend even) and disposed of the body in the swamp. But us having a strong feeling about it, and being able to prove it are very different things, and the court doesn't care about your feelings.
If you look it up the jury was not convinced that the duct tape didn't fall off the bag she was placed in and the suffocation search was never presented likely because it would be countered by showing george lied about when he left the house.
i questioned, if she died in the pool why would she still decide to put the body in the swamp but then I came to the realization that I’m guessing they didn’t come back with more proof of her involvement? Maybe I need to watch more but I hope it was revisited!
@Bell Brambelles i’m still watching this but couldn’t they prove that’s not true by seeing whether there’s chlorine in caylee’s lungs? and how does that explain why she tried to suffocate her with duct tape and looked up techniques? if she drowned in the pool, why would she need to suffocate her? i’m so confused so far
@PanPan the evidence has shown that the child was found in a swamp, with duct tape over her mouth and nose so she would suffocate. the defense has brought up that the child instead drowned in a pool.
There was sufficient evidence, forensic could prove that the body of the child was in the boot. It had the smell of a decomposed human as mentioned. Also maybe her phone location could be traced back to the swamp. Some neighbourhood CCTV, etc... there's so much more to investigate. The case was closed too fast on emotional ground.
@Zu I don't know why you are yelling at me. But there's a lot of "shoulda/coulda/woulda" with this case. The Prosecution did a terrible job and Casey Anthony got off. That's all it comes down to. We all believe she is guilty to some degree, but we don't decide these things, the jury does. And the jury can only decide based off the evidence, and not emotions. Which is why the Defense was so good at the end to try to beat it over their head that it's about facts and not emotions. Which in itself is also an appeal to emotion, because it causes people to second-guess their own judgment.
@Ayoub Innis more like: throw so much smoke and mirrors into the air that easily impressionable people can no longer know anything beyond a reasonable doubt.
@PanPan i believe the story of her father abusing her as a kid was another lie/made up fabrication from Casey...im pretty certain i saw a dateline special a few years ago where her parents blatantly denied all allegations stated they were heartbroken again and were not speaking with their daughter- but dont quote me 100% i might be off with the timeline and never followed it up
@PanPan Basically she killed her daughter and dumped her in the swamp. The defense claimed that the kid drowned in the pool and she was so traumatized by her father's abuse that she didn't want to admit that her daughter died. Forgetting the fact that there is no evidence for the abuse. The psychologists found no evidence of trauma and that she was mentally fine. Also she lied to the police which is in and of itself a felony.
The problem was the Jury. This case was so widely publicized that they couldn't find an unbiased jury of her peers. The only people they could find were basically people who were only going to find her not guilty. Everyone else in America knew she was guilty. It was only the Jury who thought she wasn't.
@PanPan I will address the concept of subduing of the animals and plantation as a Gift from God later. YOu can check out Genesis 1 and 2 that goes into this. However, I want to address one major point of contention that I have with that statement that you just made. "We are good people" How exactly do you know that with full confidence and assurance? May I ask you why you think you are an all morally good person? What if I were to tell you that none are good but God? That all men have sinned against the Glory of God?
@PanPan Wait, back up a second. By what merit of evidence exists to show that God is bad? If you are going to bring up the dead Logical Problem of Evil philosophical problem that has been resolved tons of time and literally died back in the 60s, then you are going to need to bring up something more substantial as that problem from even Atheist's scholars and philosophers alike have found that argument to be precarious and counterintuitive in every manner. Also, what do you mean by God is a man-made concept? Do you understand the nature of metaphysical principles, universal abstract objects, and ontological identities? I want to ask before I go into this in case you don't understand. I can even break down the concepts into simpler manageable size pieces so you can understand through normative categorical nomenclature. I want to ask you a question to propagate this discussion further. Are numbers an abstract concept? How do you differentiate the phenomenological concept from the actual abstract-universal numerical individual quantifier? In other words, how do you know what a "one" is within terms of linguistics as opposed to the actual metaphysical universal object?
@Ayoub Innis Their job is to cast doubt, which they did very well by adding an entirely unforeseen dynamic to the case. The prosecutions job is to present evidence that proves guilt. "Burden of proof is on the state" as they say.
@PanPan It is not a problem! Mind if wepick this up later on tonight? It is almost 3:40 am where I am. I have to get up early in a few hours. I understand as I am a man of science as well. We can talk later on tonight if that works for you. I want to inquiry into your scientific introspections and intuitions as well to branch out further from Agnostic to potentially a more certified subscribed view.
@PanPan No because its a completely false narrative to try and place blame away from her and muddy the water for the jurors. This video shows Casey has no regard for anyone but herself and is a pathalogical liar. If her father really was abusive her whole life why we should still allow her young daughter any contact with her abuser?
@Jehoon Seo me neither. He didn't seem like he had a problem with it at all. I saw a video of her a few years ago. She's involved with one of the lawyers that worked on her case. Like living with him. Not the main one but an older man.
@PanPan He hasn't been punished for her abusing her as there wasn't any evidence that he did so. It's just egregious defamation and illegal hearsay the defense threw in to make her more sympathetic. People don't like convicting people they feel sorry for, even if it has nothing to do with the case at all. Furthermore, there likely never will be any evidence that he did so since she knows if he's charged with abusing her, and found not guilty, that could be enough new evidence to allow for a retrial.
@sophia Cort Yes. "Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law" means that anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
@shhhhheeeezhzhhzh Their argument would be that she fist died in the pool, and then was moved to the swamp. Because even if that' still a million crimes it's a million with a lesser sentence than first degree murder. Though how this explains the google search, duct tape, or motive is still anybody's guess.
@PanPan and no one said nothing, mum didn’t report that... abusing his own kids.. I think the father lied to save her monster daughter... all three should be behind bars mum, dad and absolutely her.. when I was listened that was like OMG no one says nothing about that...
If she died in a pool, Why didn't she say that to the detectives when they started to accuse her of murder. And the duct tape , the internet searches, the lack of emotion about her daughter. She's so guilty.
@Toxscik and it infuriates me that he says “don’t convict on anger and emotion, the media is making you hate Cayley and comvicting based on emotion is unfair to Cayley!!” But then uses child hood SA to garner empathy for the fucking murderer!!!! God this whole case just has me fucking fuming
@Sandy Kat In a fucked up sort of way I don’t feel that the world is less safe with her out there. The whole time it felt to me like she killed her child simply because she didn’t want to deal with the inconvenience that the child was to her. No regular relationship with another human would provide that sort of inconvenience, so I wouldn’t expect her to be a serial killer or something like that. Regardless though, I absolutely agree. The fact that she did not receive some punishment is completely unjust, and this whole situation is one of the most chilling things I’ve ever seen.
@Aby Rodriguez If a person has learned that pretending life is normal will work for them, I can completely see how one could have their daughter die naturally, then think that as long as she was missing the people around her wouldn’t view her negatively, which would then justify trying to dispose of the body and then moving on with her life. With that said, I think she killed her daughter.
@Gavin Porco she lied about literally everything. All evidence pointed to her. She showed absolutely no remorse for her daughter’s death. The defense says “we don’t know how she died” then later says she died in a pool. The defense was absolutely shit. What are you talking about? Lmao
@Treasure Mage I think the motive was not wanting to deal with the inconvenience of having a child. She was free to party after and wrote that in the diary. Makes sense to me. She’d been conditioned into being so pathological that her daughters well-being was only a disruption in her own life. That’s my theory.
@Phyuck Yiu If you believe that I don’t think you understand how psychology works. Which is a very vague way to say that, but I don’t care to be super precise with the wording at the moment. Literally every person here is talking about how excellent the defence was, I’m not sure which part you’re disagreeing with. The defence said she died in a pool, then said to the jury, you cannot possibly know how she died because there is not clear evidence to show the exact course of action. He said this immediately after getting them to question their own philosophy as to what guilty and not guilty means, which he preceded by garnering their sympathy for her as well as pointing out how the prosecution absolutely fucked up by focusing on her character instead of the evidence for any portion of the trial. The psychological understanding and ability to manipulate displayed by the defence was astounding.
@Phyuck Yiu The job of the defence isn’t to prove she died in a pool. It’s solely to make people question if they are 100% sure she didn’t, or if they are 99.9% sure she didn’t. Because the difference between those two is a free person and a dead person. The jury would’ve been too preoccupied with weighing the consequence of their potential killing of an innocent woman to be able to focus on the smaller details that would’ve been more damning, but due to the pressure of the moment could have been overlooked as a result of their emotional bias.
@Gavin Porco Ye I think that's clearly what happened as well. What I meant though is that the alternate scenario posited by the defense, where she died in the pool before being moved, doesn't make much sense at all. Accidental drownings happen. They're not an impossibility. But when they're discovered what innocent people do is attempt attempt fist aid while calling ambulance ASAP. Being worried they might be charged with something is the absolute last thing that would go through a mother's mind. She only has a motive for not calling an ambulance, but instead driving to dump her if she was the one that killed her.
@Marko Bighead No. He specifically said "this evidence gathered painting a picture of her being a party girl, a sl**t, is just a trick to stir up emotion, but the fact of the matter is that this is not evidence" He clearly avoided the very obvious evidence of the duck tape, and only attacked the party images cuz it would be stupid to call visual evidence of the victim not evidence at all.
He said "it can never be proven" tho. Knowing something and proving it are two different things. Like I know what I was doing today morning but I can't prove it because I was home alone. The sad thing is this comment got 10k likes. Just shows how many people don't even trying to use brain.
how did they not get her on ANY charges... IE: lying to the police or in this case actually interfering with an investigation...etc. Seems like if nothing else something could have gotten her some type of jail time. Hell. If anyone normally interfers or lies to the police something happens. You lie in court, you're held in contemp, so I'n not understanding how through all the lies and clear deception nothing was able to get her some time at all..
There are so many proves in that case that isn't worth wondering how to explain this or that...it's just the stupidity of the jury who made that possible
@Bonnie No, it just that those are not really contradicting statements.
In opening, the defender provided his version of what happened, just as the prosecutor did.
In the end, he refers to the fact that prosecutor was not able to provide a solid prove of their version, but neither he proved his. But defender never had a goal to prove his version - his goal was only to show, that prosecution doesn't have a solid prove that defendant killed her child.
Thus, the both statements he made are not in contradiction.
That is in fact all the Defense had to do, present one scenario that might have possibly happened, and end with you don’t know for sure, and there is questions, burden of proofs lays with prosecution, I am as sicken with this as with the other one where the crazy teenage bitch kill her kid and buried it in the backyard and got off, personally I think the American law system is trying to make a statement
@barbara seymour I wouldn’t blame it on the jury, the Defense did put up probable doubt, the prosecution thought what they had was enough and didn’t get more and wasn’t prepared to plug all the holes in the story,
@Poizon Ivy if there is white privilege , there is black, brown, yellow , cause most people work for their privilege , your part of the problem my dear.
Casey is innocent. There's no physical evidence that she did something with Kaylee, she's just a congenital liar. Leave this poor woman alone she lost her child.
Also, while his closing argument included "(we will never know what happened)", his address to the media claimed that the murderer didn't kill her daughter.
@Sandy Kat it is the job of a defense attorney to defend a client without prejudice, it is the job of the prosecution to prosecute without prejudice and the job of the jury to come to a verdict based on the evidence presented. Lawyers are not guilty of their clients crimes
"She wasn't an event coordinator, she stood behind a kiosk and sold photos to people after they had been on the incredible hulk ride." damn, my man is hitting below the belt today.
Father Gregori Well they’re sort of the same thing, she coordinates the Photographic recordkeeping of peoples experience on the Incredible Hulk ride. See I can think like her as well.
It makes you wonder what she was thinking when she led them down the corridor at " work"? Was she thinking, "ok,, maybe after the 4th door we pass they will tell me , never mind Casey... you led us past 6 rooms now, there is no reason you would take us to the end of a corridor for no reason at all.. we believe you Casey, let's all go home and call this a wrap. Thanks for taking us this far"
Jim threw in a barb that the Mrs and I caught in an episode betwixt a JCS binge. The episode of the guy that shot at the car of three teens during the gas station altercation. He throws in a bit about how the dude stayed the following morning at the hotel to enjoy "a FREE LIGHT BREAKFAST". Incredulity over that decision in lieu of the previous night. It was glorious. Regards for excess context and all that there. Y'all be safe out and about!
Oh I believe she was an "event coordinator," just maybe not coordinating the events they think she is. She definitely coordinated the event of her child going missing and turning up dead. They always speak with a double tongue.
@Petra Lehto Casey Anthony picking a guy up at a bar: "Hey, wanna go to a hotel and hook up?" Fellow: "Oh, uh... I don't have any uh... protection, you know?" Casey: "Totally not a problem. Don't worry about it!"
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! never
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Ken Sington2022-04-14 15:45:53 (edited 2022-04-14 15:46:17 )
she would be amazing at sales or marketing. perfect real-estate agent
I want to know why DNA wasn’t done to find her father and rule him out. Clearly he didn’t do it but it’s a piece that I would like to know about the story. It would also remove the dark cloud she put on her fathers name.
This is so disgusting!! She didn’t deserve to be the mother of that precious baby, a prime example of some people shouldn’t have kids!! She should never be a mother again! Crazy that she’s still free
She seems to have a forehead very developed. Frontal lobe is the part where inhibition and violence comes from. Plus psychopathes tend to have their eyes wide opened. You just have to let them speak to see they don't feel like a normal human beeing. That's how you spot them. Let them talk.
1:05:58 she couldn't help but give a little smirk right at the this time when she realizes she got away with it, again her parents have somehow gotten her out of trouble, to her this is just a slap on the wrist, she'll roll her eyes at the lesson she's supposed to be learning and already thinking where is she going to go out that night to celebrate. Disappointing.
I don't know whether I believe Casey was abused as a child. If she was, that's bad, and she deserved some sympathy for that. I say deserved, because she lost all claim to sympathy when she deliberately murdered her daughter. And NO, being abused isn't an excuse for murder. I was abused and know others who were abused far more horrifically than Casey was (if the claim is true), and none of us used that as an excuse for murder. No, it is NOT TRUE that most victims of child abuse turn into child abusers. Most do NOT. People are more likely to become child abusers if they're groomed for that (to be abusers, not to be abused), but people who were abused for the most part would do anything to protect the next generation from what they experienced. In this case, I'm not even convinced the abuse happened, because Casey is a sociopathic pathological liar. So the chances she was lying to her lawyers about the abuse is pretty darn high. But even if it did happen, she should not have been excused for murdering her child. She didn't even regret it. She approved of her own judgment in murdering her child. She's a sociopath, and the jury is culpable for letting her get away with it. I hope she doesn't have any other kids.
The nerve and balls of steel of the lawyer defending a criminal and also the absurdity of this case and the law system in general reminds me of Better Call Saul. However, reality is often more disturbing than fiction.
Casey was acting so understanding and casual with the police because that's the one move she knows, that she practiced to perfection. She was trying to win them over. It has served her well: she is a free woman.
it seems to me her parents taught her how to lie. Why would you lie about your daughter having her degree to others? What do parents teach with that? That lie is a perfect sollution, that you don't have to take responsibility for your actions, beacuse your parents will lie for you, all the bad things. And I bet her degree wasn't the 1st thing they lied about to save her. Why do parents think they help their children if they overprotect them and do not teach them the meaning of consequences of your actions? This is such a sad story on so many levels.
How does a mother go 31 days having her daughter go missing and not call the cops? Anyone else would’ve called in panicking probably within 10min or less of a 3yr old missing and you don’t see her in your own home!
Her parents 100% knew she killed her daughter. The way they talk to her just show how they’ve dealt with her lies her entire life. And for gods sake her dad is a former COP.
Her lies about people have an interesting rhythm. Introduce person as the subject of the lie then talk about any myriad of living conditions, moving, process of moving, subletting. It's kind of brilliant because it conveys some weight to each made up connection and subsequent lie.
I still can't believe she threw her father (and family) under the bus by claiming child sexual abuse. There is literally no level to which she will not stoop.
not only is it a terrible thing to do, it's not even a good defense!! she's accusing him of that seemingly for some strange revenge for giving police info when trying to find his granddaughter
Both parents lied for her, like they enabled her all her life. They KNEW, even the wife smelled it and she was not a cop all her life like the husband! They also went on dr Phil to defend her and "clear the fathers name", afterward. I think it was in concert with ther lawyers, this defence strategy, the father privately agreed to it, I tell you, eventhough he obviously felt like vomiting throughout! They lost a grandaughter, didn/t want to lose another kid, should she get the death penalty. And the cop father felt guilty, but I get the feeling wife pushed him into a corner. I think this is why the jury found her not guilty as well, despite the overwhealming evidence. Death penalty is BAD for justice, makes people do stupid shit!
You must be kidding. You would not tell a lie or lies if it would save you from the death penalty? You would actually rather die than lie? How would her parents feel if she was convicted and executed? Better than they do now? I doubt it. She did what she had to in order to survive. Her lawyer was a genious. He helped her walk away without being found guilty of anything at trial. He did his job superbly. You may not like the outcome but if it was you accused of commiting murder, you would want the jury to find you not guilty on All Counts. You would want a great lawyer to help you get that not guilty verdict. Let's not lie about it. I know that not guilty is the right verdict for me if I'm accused.
@Joseph Drach no one's saying that she didn't have reason to do it. I think a lot of the outrage is specifically to do with that she tried to save her own life by accusing her own father of something so horrible. Of course, if it's a choice between saying whatever gets you free or getting locked up you're going to say what you need to say. Doesn't change the fact that it's messed up to accuse your father of r*ping you as a child in order to get away with murdering your own child. And doesn't change that it very well could have ruined her father's life if enough people believed it. It's just an a-hole move, even if it worked.
@Joseph Drach ‘if it was you’ first of all we are not some disgusting cold blooded killers to do such a thing to begin with let alone the need to lie to get out of it. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.
@dadada what are you talking about it was the parents asking her where there grand daughter was constantly that got her arrested. They were the ones who jumped to conclusion when they opened the trunk and smelled death. Nobody waited around knowing the grand daughter was dead they didn’t want to believe that they hoped she was fine and would come back in one piece . They contacted her constantly because of the grand daughter because she was a complete f&@& up with her whole life. They called the cops on their own daughter when she avoided giving real answers . I don’t think they helped her at all I just think she was immature highly influenced and gave her daughter to much nite quill who knows it’s not like anyone cared enough to pay attention about a little girl even in their own home . Who parties with a freaking toddler that would turn the party off so quick I don’t know anyone that would be kool With that scenario .
I thought so too. After she said on that conversation she had with her parents that she is blessed she still have both her parents and that her daughter is lucky to have them as grandparents contradicts that defense statement already. Maybe becaus the evidence was lacking and nothing directly pointed her to that death got the jury convinced that she didn’t do it. I just hope Caylee, however justice will be served, will get it.
@Cosmic Billy There there. I never said it would justify the kill. That is your thinking so you can stay in a world that makes sense to you. Sorry but the world isn't like that. Also this is just a youtube comment like yours, and not a trial, so calm down.
@mrjon75 me neither. When his father was accused he just stood till without any expression. What innocent person does that? Peoole don't want to believe she was sexually abused because they need to believe into ultimate bad-ultimate good scenario. In their mind is easier to think everything she is telling is a lie.
@P Press is not the court, the jury is isolated from it. The sole purpose of this sharade was to explain to the jury why she lied so much to everybody who tried to find the little girl and play on their emotions, like any good lawyer would. The parents agreed to this strategy, I am 100% sure, because her LIFE was on the line. But otherwise BS and I say that as a true victim of this kind of abuse.
@dadada I know, but it sounds illogical to agree with being an incest dad so she doesn't get death penalty and on the other hand tell everybody in the press she did it and she is a liar. It just doesn't make sense. I'm sorry about what happened to you, but this is still what I feel like. I believe her lying was a product of the abuse. Her lies are compatible with a child telling lies. It's not a mastermind getting away with a crime but rather an ill person trying to live in a fantasy to protect herself from the real world. Something deeply traumatised people tend to do because it's the way they cope. On the other hand even if she was abused I still don't see that as a excuse that she murdered her child of course not. But she clearly isn't connected to any emotions regarding her own child and that tells a lot as well.
@dadada Yes I think clearly stated she was disturbed so it would make sense her leaving the child with the abuser🙄 You can have your opinion and I will have mine, but I think it's better to end this conversation since might be triggering and waste of time since the only one that knows the truth are him and her.
not long into the documentary i wondered: "what horrors turned this young woman into a psychopath?" And I immediately thought about ll the documentaries about serial killers a have seen in the past, who also lack any empathy, just like this woman. And they all have 1 thing in common, without fail: childhood abuse! I don't care if she is guilty and if she has been lying her whole life. I just know that the abuse is true. So fucking sad. So indirectly, that grandfather is responsible for his own granddaughter's death. I hope it hurts like hell, mother&%#$@^*
@azz blaster yes!I think there are two kinds of people here:people who don't have the slightest clue what bad childhood can do and people who had similar experience but refuse to think they could have ended up like her. It's easier to just think she is a sosiopath because she just happens to be one. In my mind it doesn't make sense but to many it seems to be doing just that. It's easier to think they aren't even human cause if they were they would have something incommon with the commenters here. And that's too scary to face.
@GUITAR STYLINGS SAMUEL LETIZIA No. It's no excuse. And it's horrible. But she is simply unable to feel remorse. But i feel as sorry for her as i do for that little girl.
@Spacemonkeymojo I don't see somebody commiting suicide because their children are fucked up, however see I people committing suicide because guilt of their own actions. If anything this would furthermore make me suspicious about his dad's part on the whole thing.
@dadada agree with you. And, as a victim of this kind of abuse myself, I don't see any suffering sign in her, neighter phd found sign on her. If you experienced that you will suffer from c-ptsd and panic anxiety disorder at least, even borderline personality dirsorder in worst cases. But she's not, she's the classical sociopath with no feelings made by parents worshiping her all her life, parents stooged by her trying always to accomplish and spoil her. I know a person like this. Criminals who have a past of abuse are totally different, are lunatic, overreacting, impulsive and not able to manage emotions. Instead she's totally empty, no emotions, calculating and manipulative
I think she should be in jail, but honestly it's all fair game when your life is on the line. A father would want to be accused if it means freedom. Your reputation for your daughter's life? I'd take it.
The fact that he was mad about being accused, instead of grateful that his daughter found a way out, just proves what kind of family they are: selfish. All of them.
@Max Pulido my dude what...i mean i respect everyone's opinion,you have the right to feel this way but he wasn't happy bcuz they were on the state's side in this case both of her parents were against her in the court,she took their granddaughter's life and honestly i think if not death penalty a life sentence is what they had in mind not complete freedom and the "not guilty"
@Vikas Shetty Wow, to not only be unhappy at your daughter's freedom, but to actively work against it? Despicable. I can really see where she gets her selfish ways from. Yeah, her father betrayed that bond then, not the other way around.
@Max Pulido we dk if it's the truth. basing this on this liar's words is not very wise and i dont' wanna be a part of that so good for you i guess. i mean i hope it's not true,but if it is,then there's still no reason why he should not want justice for his granddaughter's death
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Max Pulido2022-01-22 19:08:14 (edited 2022-01-22 19:08:28 )
@Vikas Shetty There's also the likelihood he's mad he won't have another little girl to "care for." Bottom line, though, selfish people in that family. All the way back.
Say what you want about Casey’s lawyer but he was right. I’ve said from seeing the prosecution and everything they’ve said, that they took the wrong approach. They did try to play off on emotions, about a little girl who was murdered. “Zanny the nanny” was drugs to put her daughter to sleep, and she didn’t mean to actually kill her. IMO, that is. Had the prosecution shown that she died and even if it was accidental, why would she hide it!? She would’ve been found guilty
I think she was misjudged, I have no emotion and no response to anything people say or do to me. It wouldn't be fair to throw me in jail for being "soulless"
If this case wasn't in a southern state I'm sure the jury would have been smart enough to say she was guilty because what doubt is there... i mean honestly
Just goes to prove how juries can be manipulated into reaching the wrong verdict. It is a system where the guilty are set free and the innocent rot in a jail cell. Surely there has to be a better way.
The fact that she lied to the investigators, searched up suffocation, and had a signs of a decomposing body in the trunk of her car are not enough!!??? Like wow this lady should be behind bars for the rest of her life. I would he absolutely ashamed to be her lawyer/ attorney or whatever.
@maria Vazquez That's a very American way of seeing the job of a lawyer. Defending someone doesn't mean lying and being dishonest. If you have a friend that is guilty of whatever, and you feel that you have to defend them doesn't mean you are going to lie and cover up what they did. It means that you will make sure they aren't going to get an undeserved treatment. In the same way, the job of a lawyer should be to defend people against legal abuse, not to lie at any price to hide the truth and make crinimals get away from what they did.
1. People lie. To investigators too. For different reasons. For example, to save face. 3. It wasn't signs of decomposing body but a smell that seems similar to. Hard to say anything about #2 - searching for suffocation.
The strongest argument is that she didn't report her child missing for a month. The only possible scenarios I would think of people on drugs and insane.
Pretty sure the law is that you have to believe your client is innocent or otherwise recuse yourself so you don't get lawyers fudging up on purpose to sabotage their cases, so everyone gets a fair trial, otherwise you're leaving the door open for a mistrial. Dude had to believe she was innocent. And technically he only has to prove reasonable doubt and sadly he managed to since the evidence tying her to the murder were pretty circumstancial for the most part. We may think she did it, and it may seem obvious, but the burden of proof lies with prosecution. It's their fault she's walking free.
@maria Vazquez Would you take money to defend someone you were convinced murdered a 3 year old? And would you tell your conscience: 'I'm just doing what I was hired for.'
Yikes, it's a wonder our society hasn't fallen further thus far. Five likes just in this thread(MC Oliver's comment). Looks like we're rapidly moving away from God and decency 😬 If we "exist", God exists, as it is the collective and most logical conclusion. There is clearly a law of duality here. Even the laws of physics point to the existence of a collective entity. I digress... Yeah, she will absolutely answer for what she did. We all will answer for our transgressions. It is an unavoidable outcome.
@Irie Rogue the mere existence of people doubting your god should suggest to you it's not as much of a "logical" conclusion as you think... She got away nearly scot free, her public image tarnished for a few years, but will be forgotten in time Plus surely if you believe in any sort of karmic justice you must think any judiciary system is wholly unneeded... Who are you to play the role of god in judging sinners?
@Riccardo I believe in God, but don't assume that I presume that It has any control or bearing on this realm. I don't think God made this place. Not directly, anyway. I think It made the thing that did make this place, so indirectly. The dimiurge created this cesspool, which is precisely why it so very well mirrors It's ugliness, as do we.
@Irie Rogue you sound pretty convinced, but the way you talk about it seems to me god wouldn't be all too interested in judging his "cesspool" as you called
Is this "demiurge" some sort of pascalian divinity? Or a Greek style unthinking prime mover? You sound pretty certain, so I'm curious
@Riccardo it's a gnostic term. Gnostic is simply put "truth seeking" God won't necessarily be judging, but the rather the self, higher self, or the collective. I'm not sure if God is even conscious of us, we're like his skin cells or something. Instead of this sh×t being so taboo, we should all discuss it more. Then maybe we'd be more aware.
@Riccardo I won't go through the usual tropes, but I will suggest some fellow Gnostics and/or their material: *Carl Jung (any literature, really, but the Red Book is particularly riveting and introspective) *How to Grow a Lotus Blossom/How a Zen Buddhist Prepares for Death *the Nag Hammadi (oldest version of the Bible of which we are aware, and vastly different from Christianity; it is gnostic literature)
Yep! That attorney def did a number on the jurors to make them say not guilty of all the charges! I mean how is losing your kid and not reporting it child abuse at the very least! This attorney then defended the man who shot Trey VonMartin and he got away with murder as well It’s shameful
@Riccardo if you would like to form your own logical conclusion based solely in science and reason, I highly recommend this book. It allowed me to articulate the truth I felt: God Matters: Readings in the Philosophy of Religion (by Raymond Martin) it makes it very difficult to deny the existence of a higher entity. Also, if I honestly believed that humans were the apex of existence, I'd have quit the game a long time ago.
@AndrewLvov No, there’s another scenario. She could’ve said that her boyfriend, or really even anyone for that matter, had kidnapped her daughter and told her that they would kill her or her daughter if she ever spoke out about it. This would’ve been her best out actually, it would somewhat explain why she didn’t call for help and why she kept lying.
Baez is only concerned for his media exposure not the truth, he did another video after defending a football player who did a drive by- that player killed himself afterwards. Maybe because the lawyer got him off and he wouldnt be held responsible.
The jury were to blame on this one. Those jurors will have to stand before God as well as Casey one day and explain why they let a child killer do free. Those jurors disgust me.
@maria Vazquez I think attorneys and or lawyers have the right to refuse representation of a client. If they dont want to represent them in court, they dont have to take the case. Im not sure tho. Fact check me. However, if that is the case, that makes her acquittal even scarier.
Lawyer gotta eat and feed his fam lol they don’t give a fuuuuuuuuck and I don’t blame them. As bad as that sounds it’s how our system works for better or worse
@Abdur Rahmaan lmao are you living in disney world? Lawyers threw their ethic out the window the second they decided to study law. They are in the field for the money for politic, not to serve justice. Who the hell would hire him as a lawyer if he isn't willing to do whatever it takes to make sure his defendant doesnt end up in jail. I am sure this lawyer celebrated and slept pretty well that same night knowing that this case has made him famous and will look good on his resume.
Agree with everything except the lawyer part, they're there to do a job, everyone deserves a fair trial. I can't imagine what the Dad was thinking though, he knows the smell, he knew what it meant and how she was behaving. I'm not blaming him for anything but it must have messed with his head.
As someone whose interested in being a lawyer, I agree her lawyer did a terrible job morally and probably even legally if he lied under oath and should have to go to council for review, but we can't prove that he knowingly lied. The best thing the lawyer should've done is simply suggest taking a plea deal, but that's in hindsight.
Lawyers sadly have to do what's best for their clients, and in this case it was to take Casey at her word and construct a defense around it. Not his job to prove if she's innocent or guilty, his job is to debate her innocence in front of a jury. Morally he did something very wrong, but lawyers have to play devil's advocate at times to make a case for a criminal.
It's better than burdening a public defender with her case, they're already overworked as it is, and she had a right to an attorney/lawyer so it was either lawyer who agrees to take her case or public defender who's already worked to the bone.
@mooglemania False. All you have to do is represent them in court, projecting their claims is a minimum. How could you ever prove that you believe your client? Belief can't be proven. Good lawyers often represent those that they despise, but representation is what keeps the salem witches alive. What is bad lawyer work is attempting to manipulate and confuse the jury to secure a win.
@Jonas Daverio umm.. The goal of a lawyer is to prove his customer is innocent. If you provide evidence against your client, then you're a shit lawyer and you would get no jobs. (If you cant defend your client after knowing he/she is guilty you can drop the case)
She gets annoyed anytime her daughter Caylee is brought up or given concern for her well being. Sighs of annoyance and the real her comes out attacking someone. This monster never even implies she’s concerned about her daughter in fact she constantly cuts any dialogue down right away and irrelevant concerns are prioritized above her daughter
The commentator in the beginning states that Casey Anthony thought she could lie to the state the way she did to her parents and just get away with it. But it did work, she in the end got away with it...
I think Jodi Arias Saw this case and thought 💭 hmm maybe I can get an acquittal as well. But there was way to much convincing and overwhelming evidence that said otherwise
So let me get this straight. Casey pretty much done bad things and her parents did not give her the correct consequences - right? So she became a pathological liar because of lack of consequences?
This year in Greece a mother killed her child with poison while the child was in hospital. Her 2 other children had died the previous years for unknown reasons. An investigation started for the cause of death for the 3rd child and they concluded that the mother killed all 3 children with very low dosage of poison given to them systematicaly. All these years that her children were dying one by one she kept having a totally normal life having fun on vacation and showed no signs of grief.
These investigators were so out of their league with her. They weren’t experience enough to handle someone like her. It’s obvious when watching this interview
the fact of how calm her voice is ................if that was my child i would be more than beside myself....10000% a sociopath gotta be. either way very manipulative
She lied to the police time after time and intentionally misled them in the search for her missing baby daughter. Then made up another fairytale about Caylee drowning in a swimming pool accident. May God forgive her , I cannot.
Wait i need help understanding something here.. So in her defense she said that her father helped her bury the daughter? Ummm did he confirm this or what or did i get something wrong here?
it’s funny they claim she drowned in the pool but why in the hell did she then put duct tape on her mouth if she was already dead? terrible liars. all of them. May God rest that baby’s soul
I'm still absolutely baffled that she killed her child with painful obvious evidence and still runs free. This is so fucked up. I don't get how anyone could even loom at her without spitting.
When Christina said "If anything happens to that baby, I'll die." My eyes started watering. She loved her best friend's daughter more than her own mother did. 23:37
As a brother to a sister. We lie to eachother. I relate to when her brother said "you're....making it really hard to want....to. I'm not going to go round for round with you I'll give you xtina so you can tell her"
You can't see Christina's face but for me at least you can hear how she's aghast and about to cry. It's really ripping to hear everyone's emotion and this mother has seemingly none.
@regularspecial1 yeah I think the brother Lee and the best friend were really trying to say it without completely saying it, because they know how Casey Anthony is. She will just completely shut down and not say anything.
I feel really bad for Caylee . She deserves better God bless her ! Jeez 😣 🥺🥺 This's the saddest thing I every heard in my life. There is no sad thing more than losing a child but she does feel nothing literally Nothing ! Am really confused !
The craziest thing is the fact that she herself NEVER asks about her daughter through it all.. .. never asks how things are regarding finding her.... she is obsessed with herself only...
The jury were told that Zenida didn't exist, that the situation with Jeffery was made up, that Casey had lied to the police, that she exhibited no signs of distress throughout the whole process, lied to the police on numerous occasions, went partying while her child was missing, didn't even bother contacting the police until she was practically forced to by her mother, Googled suffocation, claimed she was the happiest she had been in ages while her child was missing, and that the trunk of her car smelled like a decomposing body and still found her not guilty.
Im sorry, but no way in hell are 12 people collectively that stupid, and no slick lawyer could manage to convince that many people of innocence. Something about this whole case is seriously messed up and something seems really off about the whole thing.
It's not crazy at all she killed her why would she ask and she's too much of a sociopath to pretend and act like she cared even if it meant being proved innocent. But somehow she got off. Don't get it
@Tanaphar Plus Masks not true. jesus did selfless act when he died.for you I've done selfish acts through his spirit who lives through me Only.by being born again can you change and learn to be selfless through the holy spirit.
You do know that the whole concept of trial by jury by your peers is inherently flawed because juries are made up of 12 people too thick to get out of jury service. How scary is that?
To me casey and her lawyer winning this case had nothing to do with their defence. I think the jury didn't buy that, i believe the problem was that this was a death penalty case and that the evidence for premeditated murder was strong but not smoking gun strong. the jury probably got more hesitend to convict her of murder because you don't wanna hand out the death penalty unless you can be 100% certain that the defendant deserves that.
@Kayvon Crenshaw i saw ur comment on another section so pls stop this is irrelevant to the topic like its okay to have beliefs but to randomly comment them is just inconvenient for many
@notpmeg_ How sure are you about that claim? "we can still be good people"? May I test that claim with a question to show you why that can't be the case? Do you consider yourself a morally good person?
@minikui kowai desu I want to reach as many people with the Gospel. I have had many good opening hooks with this message to flesh open people's insular views about reality, death, morality, etc, and the disease of sin that is begotten of people's immoral actions resulting in catastrophic consequences.
@Triangular Many people like to bring up that objection that Jesus Christ isn't the Son of God. I have been asked this in the very same formulation many times before. I hope this response brings out some of the issues I think are important in this regard.
N O W H E R E does Jesus say "I am God, worship me."
Suppose a man does indeed come up to you and does says,
"I am God, worship me."
Would you believe him?
Would you worship him?
The immediate reaction of any decent monotheistic believer
would be to call the person making such a claim an impostor
and a blasphemer. If that is your reaction too, then why
would you demand something from Jesus which you aren't going to
accept anyway? Most would declare insane anybody who would make
such a statement. Jesus knows about this natural reaction as
well as anybody else and saw no reason to make his claims in
such a foolish way. But he did make the claim in indirect ways
and those are just as clear.
Maybe you are cautious and open and don't want to completely
dismiss such a claim ... after all, saying that God is not
able to come and appear in the form of a man does restrict his
power, and you believe in an all powerful God, ... but you would
at least demand conclusive proof for such a claim, wouldn't you?
After all, if you do worship somebody who is not God you are
guilty of idolatory. But refusing to worship God when he demands
so is just as great a sin.
What matters in the end is not the existence of this literal
statement, but whether there is clear evidence that he is indeed
God, no matter in which form he issued the claim. If there is
clear proof for his divine identity, then you have to worship Him
even if the wording of his commands is not precisely the way you
may think they should be. We cannot prescribe for God how
he has to reveal himself before we accept it.
For example, in the Gospel according to John, (speaking of
eternal life) Jesus says, "I am the resurrection and the life.
He who believes in me will live, even though he dies."
(John 11:25). He makes the offer of eternal life conditional on
faith in his own person. This would be blasphemous for anybody
other than God. This is an incredible claim. Does he give any
evidence for his authority to make such claims? The record
gives many details of what happened at this particular day, but
at the end we read, "When he had said this, Jesus called in a
loud voice, `Lazarus, come out!' The dead mean came out, his
hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around
his face. Jesus said to them, `Take off the grave clothes and
let him go.'" (John 11:43-44).
When you read the Gospels carefully you will find that
consistently
* Jesus talks like he is God,
* Jesus acts like he is God,
* Jesus gives evidence for claiming this authority rightfully
by performing miraculous signs.
After 3 years with his disciples we read how one of them
asks Jesus and wants to be "shown the Father (God)".
Jesus answered, "Don't you know me, Philip, even after
I have been among you such a long time?
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. ...
Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the
Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the
miracles themselves." (John 14:10-11).
Jesus expected the disciples and the people around him to
recognise his true nature and identity from his words which
are only appropriate for God to speak and from his deeds.
Jesus does give enough proof and then lets you draw your own
conclusions. Everybody could make the claim to be God. And
many have made claims to be (a) god throughout history. Only
the true God can give true evidence for it and if you have
the evidence there is no need for the explicit command to
worship anymore. The statement "I am God" adds nothing of
substance to the question regarding his identity. His real
identity is established by the proof he gives, not by claims
each and everybody can make. After he has given the evidence,
there is no more need for the statement. Those who are open
for the truth will recognise the evidence, those who ignore
the evidence won't be convinced either if he adds this
specific statement you seem to demand from him. And if you
have recognized his true identity, worshiping him is only
proper and will nearly be an "automatic" response.
I know this is an incredible thought, it is unbelievable.
That is why it took even the disciples themselves such a
long time to really understand it. They have really only
started to comprehended the meaning of it all after Jesus'
own death and resurrection, after they meet the risen Lord.
In the Gospel according to John, end of chapter 20, and
the Gospel according to Matthew, end of chapter 28, we read
how Jesus receives worship and affims this. Even though he
never demands the worship, he accepts it and confirms it as
proper.
@Aleksandar Mijatovic Equivocation fallacy. You are comparing apples and oranges here in an attempt to almost straw-man me. What defines morality actually? You bring up a good point as what you just posted will result in a self-defeating statement for your Atheistic paradigmatic framework in regards to tenable ethics. You brought the question up, so let us see if you can espouse it.
How do you draw a formal distinction between the moral values of a person versus a Lion? How do you know that murder is wrong, and why we ought to care for others if in an Evolutionist's primordial mindset the survival of the fittest applies to both the natural processions and properties of animals? Shouldn't this be applied to human behavior, morals, and axiological commitments?
@Kayvon Crenshaw excuse me, many of us are not christians. idk what rock you live under, but there are multiple religions and beliefs so please, no one cares about whatever you said. this video isn't even related to religion my guy
@Kayvon Crenshaw a child got murdered my question to u is where is god to help save innocent people why do people need to die to go to heaven and hell why not help instead of let people get killed
@Kayvon Crenshaw wrong place to bring up religion idc if they're going to hell they need to have justice in this lifetime god only thought of life after death didn't think of life he created us and we have to suffer until death there's no beauty in Life it pisses me off
@Kayvon Crenshaw And you're again bringing morals all the time while being fully aware that you're replying to a person that does not believe in such thing.
I do not draw a formal distinction between things I do not believe in. Morals are product of a human imagination to make them feel good/bad about something,nothing more-nothing less.
Why do we care (or in many cases do not care) for others is mater of how we grew up,and what we were taught,howt some things are "good" and some things are "bad" in reality it's only the law that stops this world from going total berserk into chaos,if there was no laws (and I mean at all),many would show their true colors,it's not our "morals" that stop this world going to shit,it's the law.
Survival of the fittest still applies to humans as well,just in modern society it took some other form shaped by capitalism and greed.
@Kayvon Crenshaw like any troll, I'm sure you're just happy to get responses whether they're positive or negative. Any acknowledgement of your nonsense will be a win for you, you sure do seem to be thriving on the attention.
@Kayvon Crenshaw if your God’s a righteous one, he’ll recognize the morality of my life and reward me as such even if I didn’t prostrate myself before him. If he’s so petty, narcissistic, and capricious as to condemn me to an eternity of suffering simply for not worshiping him, then he’s not worth worshipping in the first place. If he isn’t real, then I’ll be fine either way.
@Kayvon Crenshaw I’m morally good in that I bring as much happiness into the world as I reasonably can. the difference between the two of us is that I do it in an altruistic fashion, and you do it for yourself, with a promise of eternal reward, or threat of eternal punishment hanging over your head. If you think that human beings can’t be moral without coercion then maybe you’re just a bad person deep down.
@Dalton Garrett ok fr tho, im an atheist and i cringe so hard when people say "your god", idk entirely why but i think its cause it wond do you much favor to convince a religious person to take your side
@JustFrankJustDank well in the first place there isn’t much you can do to reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. Nothing is going to convince someone who’s arguing from faith, they’re conditioned to be unreceptive to reality.
@Dalton Garrett i agree, people only change their opinions when they themselves want to, not when people change it for them, but there are going to be either neutral or not 100% sure parties observing these discussions and when they see people arguing against the idea of a far off, yet for some reason occasionally human meddling being existing, theyre going to hear "oh, they both agree on the fact that from the religious persons perspective he sees god and the non believer simply doesnt" rather than the actual reason why theyres a disagreement , which is the non believer doesnt see a god and the believer believes, not sees, but believes in a god, and there is an extremely important difference between these two world perspectives, in one, god appears to some and not to others, in the other, the one you and i both agree on, gods arent real and some people believe in them. we need to show the reason some believe in something and others dont isnt because one is blind, we need to show that they disagree because one is weong
ok can i just acknowledge the fact that this comment section started off so innocently and partially due to me, became a complete 180 to what it was about, anyone reading this wanting to go into the comment section and not expecting this i apologize lol
@JustFrankJustDank oh no, I’m not even arguing over something as unfalsifiable as the existence of a god. Frankly it doesn’t matter to me either way, and my comment explained why. I think that the most important thing to realize is that if Yahweh existed and everything the Torah/Bible/Quran said about him was true, he’d be an absolute monster. Just be as good of a person as you can be. If no god exists then at least you bettered the world. If a god does exist and they’re righteous they’ll reward you, if they take issue with you not worshipping them then they’re a bastard and not worthy of worship. You shouldn’t allow yourself to be coerced into immorality.
@Kayvon Crenshaw Jesus Christ, according to my Islamic belief, is not the Son of God. He is a messenger who was sent by God and was later ascended back to God.
@Kayvon Crenshaw don’t worry about those who have hardened hearts. You did what you could with the resources you have. God bless you! Shake the dust off your feet and move on ❤️. Of course don't give up, but don't burn yourself out!
This is nothing being everything. You only seem to be alive by separating yourself from God. Duality/experience. It can collapse at any moment and Heaven is revealed to be everything happening...for NO reason — utter infinite freedom. Unconditional love. It’s unbelievable until it’s undeniable.
Bond I Agent 0072021-06-10 03:27:42 (edited 2021-06-10 03:28:04 )
After seeing what had happened to Casey with evidences, my heart pained. The only thing I wanna add is that Justices is a lie & the so called Justices System is a big joke. Anyone with cash and good contacts can get away.
@hi Why would I preach a message to those who already have full knowledge of the truth? That would be unnecessary, right? Unless they are in a state of unrepentance and are reprobate and rebellious towards God,, then they need to return to the basics of the message. I am hoping to reach those who are sick and are in need of the cure which only through Christ Jesus can they find the solution to sin that so easily gratifies our fleshly desires and brings us into a rebellious state of mind against God.
@minikui kowai desu The logical problem of evil isn’t a probability argument, but rather it is a logical argument, namely it does not say “God probability does not exist”, but rather “God cannot exist even in principle once you’ve understood the propositions in question”, akin to a square circle. A literal logical contradiction that cannot exist even in principle.
This, as even atheist philosophers recognise, is a very strong and extravagant claim. They’re saying P and Q are contradictory attributes possessed by G therefore it cannot exist.
However, one simply has to note that P and Q cannot be said to be logically contradictory, if Z is even a logical possibility. For example, if you were told in a dinner table that your friend Paul’s car is being fixed because it’s broken, but then minutes later you hear him speaking privately in a corner to someone about him driving to the diner, it would seem to be a logical contradiction Prima facie. However if it is even logically possibly for Z to be true, namely he drove someone else’s car, he had a second car or multiple cars, etc, then P and Q namely, his car being fixed and him driving to the diner cannot be said to be logically contradictory.
Note it is a logical argument against God’s existence, and thus regardless of what you epistemically think of free will or divine knowledge, or whatever it doesn’t matter, since even a bare possibility would show that P and Q cannot be said to be logically contradictory. This is why even naturalists like JL mackie who have no affinity towards subjects like free will, divine knowledge and so on, found this rebuttal to be a utterly devastating decisive knockdown argument. Because to maintain that P and Q are contradictory, he has to show that Z is also logically impossible, not merely epistemically implausible. Which is downright absurd to even attempt.
NOTE: Virtually every philosopher of religion has universally rejected the logical PoE.
This video will hopefully elucidate what I said better.
@Aleksandar Mijatovic YOu believe morals are a product of the human imagination? How do you epistemically know that? Also, isn't that strange to have feelings and emotions towards subjects and decisions people make if all moral systems exist only in the mind by which we can't appeal to something extrinsic and relational to consider ethical propositions lawful? How would you solve this dilemma and reconcile the idea if all conception or reality by conceivable possibilities are unanimously congenital, then how come it can't be tenably back-propagated towards its first initial principles that have to be followed?
@JustFrankJustDank Why do you say that? Hell isn't something that the human mental contents of thought haven't even imagined as a counterfactual state unless by general relative experience by something that is expressed by external semantics that is consistent with any other subjective independent experience of others people. Think of this. Imagine putting your hand on the stove turned up at 400 degrees F that has been going on for hours. Why won't you put your hand there if you have a Cambridge property to conceive of the existence of the experience? You don't want to burn yourself right? How can you know the pain of burning yourself if you hadn't experienced it with that particular object that has the potency to give off a burn? The same scenario applies to hell. How can you say that you are okay with going to hell but not try placing your hand to give off a relative similar experience where you can find hedonistic pleasure if you are okay with it?
Also, I updated the message to go into a bit more into the nuances of the Gospel to better illustrate it:
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
How many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@Slowhand Why do you say it is brainless if you would have needed some form of intelligibility to necessary reason to form a Coherent religion such as Christianity which is reasonably logical by revelation epistemology from God about reality? By what basis do you ground that claim? Also, your reasoning is cringe for asserting the Christian faith is cringe.
@Mr. Libertad By what basis do you make that claim that Christianity is man-made? You can't make an epistemic claim with no substance such as predicting inferential evidence that is consistent with metaphysical implications, epistemic modality, and ethical propositions.
@echo head That is presumptious. Why do you think the message of the Gospel which is the answer to the existential perpetual questions of death, teleological implications, iniquity, etc, are prevalent in this world is a trolly message?
@Dalton Garrett " if your God’s a righteous one, he’ll recognize the morality of my life and reward me as such even if I didn’t prostrate myself before him." How can God recognize something that is not righteous and reward you for it? God doesn't reward sinners eternal life in heaven just as much as the Law doesn't allow rapists to not undergo some form of punishment.
"If he’s so petty, narcissistic, and capricious as to condemn me to an eternity of suffering simply for not worshiping him, then he’s not worth worshipping in the first place. If he isn’t real, then I’ll be fine either way." 'For not worshipping Him'. No, God doesn't sentence someone to hell for not falling on your knees to worship Him. Every person will be doing that anyways as scripture says here: Philippians 2:10-11
New King James Version
"10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
Read this Gospel message as it elucidates further: "Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
How many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@Dalton Garrett I can prove to you that under the Atheism paradigmatic system that they can't make any claims to have real true knowledge beyond their insular epistemic model that is descriptive of reality that is untenable. Christianity, on the other hand, can.
@Dalton Garrett "oh no, I’m not even arguing over something as unfalsifiable as the existence of a god. Frankly it doesn’t matter to me either way, and my comment explained why. I think that the most important thing to realize is that if Yahweh existed and everything the Torah/Bible/Quran said about him was true, he’d be an absolute monster. Just be as good of a person as you can be. If no god exists then at least you bettered the world. If a god does exist and they’re righteous they’ll reward you, if they take issue with you not worshipping them then they’re a b**** and not worthy of worship. You shouldn’t allow yourself to be coerced into immorality."
What makes Him a "moral monster" and by what basis do you make the claim and on what grounds are you predicating your moral framework in order to directly judge what Yahweh does as "immoral"
@QuidQuoPro Read this Gospel message that elucidates and goes more into the details for ya.
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
How many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@Fa Raz "According to your Islamic belief" doesn't make a claim any less true as a counterfactual about the impossible state of affairs of reality. You must show evidence of the claim that Jesus Christ was just a mere Prophet.
@Panda .Bubblez Thank you so much brother/sister! God bless you abundantly. Don't worry. I haven't given up haha. Going to dunk on all their claims by the power of the Holy Spirit as He is victorious in the end. No one can stand up to the Wisdom of God revealed to His true servants.
@Vlad Dascaliuc How do you know that? That is a premature claim as you don't even know what sends people to hell in the first place.
Read this Gospel message as it elucidates further:
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
How many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@Samantha What is wrong with preaching the Gospel of Truth that many people are in need of by identifying the subtle reason as sin by consequential knowledge of its existence that plagues humanity by just opening your eyes and looking around?
@Jacob R What do you mean by nothing being everything? Do you mean nothing being the first efficial cause or nothing being a subset of some abstract compacity space in relation to universal inhibitors?
@Kayvon Crenshaw my perception of reality operates on a reasonable set of logical presuppositions that need to be made in order for human beings to function in any capacity, many, if not most of which are shared by people regardless of their religious beliefs, or lack thereof. Yours currently and always has operated on the assumption that anything that has yet to be explained must be attributed to god, despite the fact that you’ve been losing on that front for literal centuries, from lightning to disease you’d denied any other explanation besides god and stifled the betterment of humanity in a vain effort to forestall the inevitability of your own irrelevancy
@Kayvon Crenshaw also, a minor semantic point that always irks me. The “taking the lord’s name in vain” thing isn’t about what you think it is. There’s an amount of debate over the exact meaning, but there’s two commonly accepted meanings. The first one is not using the true name of god, known only to a select few, frivolously. The word “Yahweh” and especially “god” aren’t relevant to this because they’re simply stand ins for the true name of the Abrahamic god. The second is not swearing upon or before god in a frivolous fashion. Either way, it’s universally agreed upon in theological circles that simply using the word “god” frivolously is perfectly fine.
@Kayvon Crenshaw to put it very simply, it doesn’t matter how much you try to threaten me with hellfire, seduce me with the promise of salvation, or go on about how swell of a guy Jesus was, because I don’t believe any of that. And even if you were to miraculously supersede every ounce of reason within me and convince me it’s all real, I’m not going to glorify a being I find so thoroughly deplorable, no matter how much he tries to threaten or bribe me.
@Kayvon Crenshaw fun fact: i know for a fact hot things burn, another fun fact: i do not believe in hell, living my life avoiding hot things vs avoiding hell are not going to convince me, also, i love you btw, i love how this previously normal comment section became this, thank you :)
@Dalton Garrett we dont disagree about the existence of a god, i just dont think its useful to say "your god" cause many christians believe it really is their god and not ours, which is why according to them we dont believe in it, and reinforcing that notions not a good idea
@JustFrankJustDank I’m confused as to your specific meaning. I don’t believe in a god, but I also don’t with any certainty assert that one doesn’t exist. I think they’re both unfalsifiable, though one is far more egregious than the other. My main point is that even if... his god exists, that he’s not worth worshipping
@Kayvon Crenshaw It's an illusion that the past caused the present. All there is, everything, has nothing outside of it to limit it, therefore it has no limit or need. It doesn't even have the need for a past. There isn't really a moment. There's just limitless causelessness appearing as anything without reason or purpose, completely unbounded by anything, and no one is separate from it.
@Vlad Dascaliuc Your opinion means nothing as you have grounds to base that claim. It is just directed in an asinine and hubris spiel while predicated on an appeal to emotion which is a fallacy.
@Dalton Garrett "my perception of reality operates on a reasonable set of logical presuppositions that need to be made in order for human beings to function in any capacity, many, if not most of which are shared by people regardless of their religious beliefs, or lack thereof" What logical set of presuppositons are those? Tell me about your epistemic virtues and ethical virtues.
"Yours currently and always has operated on the assumption that anything that has yet to be explained must be attributed to god, despite the fact that you’ve been losing on that front for literal centuries, from lightning to disease you’d denied any other explanation besides god and stifled the betterment of humanity in a vain effort to forestall the inevitability of your own irrelevancy" Um..... no. This is the God of the gaps fallacy here. Also, I haven't even mentioned my metaphysical model of agent causation. Don't start making presumptious baseless mental gymnastic claims now.
"to put it very simply, it doesn’t matter how much you try to threaten me with hellfire, seduce me with the promise of salvation, or go on about how swell of a guy Jesus was, because I don’t believe any of that." Are you an Atheist? If so, why is that? Also, where have I directly threatened you with hellfire or try to seduce you? Am I trying to conjure you to repentance and warn you of God's Holy Judgment which is consequential to the necessary existence of a polar juxtaposition of eternity system from Heaven? You are trying to straw-man my original statement.
"And even if you were to miraculously supersede every ounce of reason within me and convince me it’s all real, I’m not going to glorify a being I find so thoroughly deplorable, no matter how much he tries to threaten or bribe me." This is would result in an illogical Personal Incredilty fallacy. You would rather live in absurdity than open your eyes to the Truth? What if someone were to murderer your family(God forbid), would you say it is fine because your views are illogical and equivocate with worldview with some form of standard which you can't partake of as your opinion won't matter with what they can do as that presupposes some absolute objective teleological truth?
@Fa Raz Where in the bible did he predict the last prophet, Mohammed? If you bring Deuteronomy up, prepared to be annihilated as that would actually result in a contradictory state of affairs within our belief system and would be sophistry.
@Jacob R " It's an illusion that the past caused the present. " This doesn't even make sense. If there is an illusion of a phenomenological event that exists merely as a form of mental representation of its faculties and features of the mind's cognizant virtual autonomous experience of it, then that would result in a modal collapse of the mind as being necessary with no contingent truths making cognizant contemplations of the material world and the concept of time to be a mere non-propositional knowledgable fact that is indicative and declarative of having no true knowledge or justified true beliefs. You are therefore in a contradictory view of having any epistemic model in the reality of the abstract concept of time.
@Kayvon Crenshaw same reason neither of us believe in nirvana, christianity isnt the only religion in the world and as much as youd like to justify it with logic in an attempt to appeal to atheists, almost all christians are so soley because thats how they were raised, just like every other religion, thats why i dont believe in hell heaven or any of that
@Kayvon Crenshaw I appreciate you response. Your apparent intellectual rigor is stunning. The thing is, this (as in literally all there is; everything) doesn't make sense. It doesn't need to make sense. There's nothing else, so there's nothing else to prevent it from being literally infinitely unbounded. Think about that -- infinity. It is well within the infinite capabilities of what is (this) to appear as, say, a complete universe with a history... without that history having actually taken place. This is the big bang right here -- which is still a story. You can relax though -- not only do I not expect you to believe this, it's actually not possible to believe, for if it were believed, there'd be no one left believing it. I don't know this -- if you hear that, you're confusing knowing with there simply being no doubt here. You could conceive of this correspondence as a message from nothing. No one is typing. It's terrifyingly awesome, and laughably ordinary, at once. There isn't anyone separate from looking at a screen -- there's just the infinite appearing as anything, such as looking at a screen. The claim that you know you're looking at a screen is a self fulfilling claim that can end for no reason, but it doesn't really end, it's simply recognized that it never even happened.
@Jacob R Hmm, you seem to be an epistemic nihilist? Is that true? Why do you believe in an ad infinitum regress of all existential manifestations and ontological abstractions of universals? I will flesh out each of your points later, but if you are an epistemic nihilist, then how do you know your statement is in direct correspondence to the truth in reality and simply not an illusionary by appeal to ignorance? Do you believe in sensual perceptions that make all empirical inferential evidence a normative truth? Is it descriptive or a definitional claim of having propositional knowledge on a solipsist predicated preconceived notions? This will obviously entail presuppositions about specific logical modality truth-makers in reality that can't be simply ignored. I can explain them to you as you will see that your comment doesn't make sense. It seems like you are doing mental gymnastics by endeavoring to almost surreptitiously some esoteric knowledge nihilistic approach and appeal to infinite regress while having to make leaps in your epistemic model that can lead to a modal scope fallacy.
@JustFrankJustDank I don't get how that logically entails that there can't be an absolute objective metaphysical state where out being will reside when there exists an objective moral standard that is projected unto reality that is reflective of our moral obligations and precepts. Do you believe in the existence of absolutes? Immanent constitutes that must be a direct correlation to our ontological commitments?
To simplify with a question you may have some form of an opinion that is actually pertinent to this video. Do you believe that Casey got justice for what she did? Was the judge correct with absolving her of guilt and exculpating her with freedom even by de facto evidence that was inherently incriminating?
Okay let me get this straight, Casey’s car had the odor of a decaying body, and they still can’t pin it on her!? The fact that she didn’t contact the cops when she knew her daughter was “missing” the freaking defense still fabricates that there isn’t any evidence? What about the made up people? The misleading? The calm composure she keeps when confronted!?? Something else worth mentioning is when she was on the video call with her parents, at one specific section she began to use past tense when in referral to her daughter, but quickly corrected herself. She did this a few times. But yeah.. sure, let’s let her go because there’s “no evidence” :/
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No one2022-04-12 04:07:33 (edited 2022-04-12 04:10:48 )
I just realised while rewatching this, she slips up while talking to her parents just after 29:00 . She uses a .. not quite a past-tense, but damn near enough, certainly not a present tense, that's for sure. She tells her dad that he's been the best grandfather ever. Not that he is the best,, that he has been . "You and mom *have been* the best grandparents. Caylee *has been* so lucky to have you."
Most vile? Nah. What's vile are the folks that have done decades in prison for crimes not committed. Or the ones that have been exonerated after they've been put to death from a conviction. That's the vile thing
@Ryan Young you clearly do not understand the justice system, there is never "proof" anyone did anything, hitler could have had space brain worms that made him do all of that and he was a nice guy
a trail is about finding out what is beyond a reasonable doubt and its beyond a reasonable doubt that she was an abusive mother, psychopath and had intentions of killing her kid. She fucking googled foolproof suffocation and the body was found near her house.
@JayKrappenshitz not relevant nor does it matter, the jury being terrible and failing at there job does not change the fact that she did this crime beyond a reasonable doubt.
You're the prime example of why there are 12 jurors on a panel. Ego. Earlier it was you knew she was a liar because of what happened to you. And that it wasn't about guilt. Now it is about guilt.
You jus have that need to be right and the ego won't allow you to let go of that and see other views. But that's ok
@Oat Meal i know its awful but the cost of liberation is forgiveness...which seems impossible to do. No body wants tp be this person.or at least no one starts out this way imo. Maybe im a fool..but i need to forgive and i hope im forgiven. Peace
@j mula no one has a higher standard of living. Males privileged? If a ship is sinking or a building burning...who is saved first? Ok ..im with that..but quit trying to convince me otherwise
@satanicglobalistilluminati people that right the history books have not always been good guys...just to question whether hitler was a decent person..is considered taboo..then korean war , vietnam, 911 , countless assassinations ..of character and literal. We are the bad guys..we are. Every soul. Having power in a unjust world and using it in a way that excuses injustice is dubious. The way everyone thinks is linked to some bias. We get sold rather than learn..the salesmen know our preferences and all they need to do is tie Untrues in our biases...and we buy..cuz we are right and everyone else is wrong. Stubborn
@redjalapeno when I went to my jury duty it was not like that at all, they brough a bunch of us in and just asked us if there was any reason why we could not be on the jury and unless you had a good reason then they would pick you, even a older black man who clearly was very against the system they let be a juror because he said that well he disliked the system that he individually wont be biased.
@satanicglobalistilluminati I fixed my comment. I've been on juries and hear what you what are saying. It was with a fit of rage I posted that comment as it is abundantly clear that she murdered her child.
@Oat Meal I am literally shaking and crying right now. I truely believe that sometimes the soul leaves the living human and goes to hell and a demon takes it's place.
@Love Law thats a little farfetched but I do understand what you mean. I call it "ignorance" the lack of knowledge can get us into trouble. This woman lied her way out of it.. she knew how to get away. But what she doesn't know is KARMA will never leave her alone. She is suffering im sure right now as we speak.. she knows what she did.. and when her "ignorance" is unveiled she will feel the guilt we all hope she feels. We are human.. we all have a consciousness the lies eventually catch up to you.
Police: Incompetent. Couldn't even collect evidence right and fumbled on everything. Their whole incompetence pretty much allowed Casey to walk. Prosecutors: Completely incompetent and had no clue what they were doing. Then of course going to the media about the whole case, basically putting out their strategy wide open. Media: Incompetent and messing with the public which probably even changed the jurors opinions out of spite.
The only ones competent here were the defense who pretty much walked all over them. Casey is a great example for the whole STFU and talk only to your lawyer. Even in the end, they manged to plant the seed of doubt that Casey killed her daughter. Your feelings on the matter don't really matter. If you're upset, blame the very people who messed this up in the first place, the police and state themselves.
It's like the justice system needs consent for her to be guilty like that dead meme just say no when when you're being rob
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H W2020-09-07 06:32:24 (edited 2020-09-07 06:46:52 )
The issue in the case was that none of the evidence could actually 100% prove murder though, because the defence lawyer came up with a plausible explanation for how it could have been manslaughter or 2nd degree murder, The problem was the charge they gave her. If they hadn’t used 1st degree, it would have gone through. But for 1st degree murder, you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt someone intended and planned to kill someone ahead of time.
Casey is the type of person to avoid responsibility and just pretend things haven’t happened. One time, she was fired from her job, and in response, she just kept on showing up day after day and working normally, acting like she wasn’t fired until people noticed her that day, and told her to leave. And she just kept on showing up, day after day, until her parents intervened.
So, she has a track record of going out of her way to maintain her borderline delusional image of “normal life”. Is it really impossible to believe that if Casey was negligent, and her daughter drowned while she was on her phone, that she really would just wrap the body up, out in in the wood, and just pretend nothing had happened and everything was still normal? Or at the least, that she “let” her daughter play by the pool until she accidentally feel in, and then pretended not to notice until she had drowned, and then hid the body?
The issue was that this IS a plausible explanation. And even if you think it’s not what happened, in order to be found guilty of something, it has to be the ONLY plausible explanation for something. So even if it was probably a murder, as long as there’s another explanation that is legitimatly equally viable, you can’t find someone guilty of it.
@satanicglobalistilluminati You raised a flag in favor of 'intellectual honesty' like anyone other than yourself cared about your religion-based self-inflicted trauma. He supported the hard fact that Casey is guilty and responded with an emotional statement damning her, and you immediately went and shut him down over something you felt was more urgent to acknowledge- diminishing his beliefs.
I don't see how you can call for an even-grounded exchange when you're the one who cast the stone in the first place. But I'm sure it's justified in your mindspace.
Her sparring with the detective and being the insane narcissist she is thinking she’s got the detective by the balls cuz she’s so damn smart it’s literally sickening!!!!!! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Interesting that heat and humidity can increase the speed of decomposition. The body was so decomposed they couldn’t identify much evidence or cause of death. Someone must have known that which explains the smell in the car. She was left in the trunk in Florida heat. She must have dumped it sometime when she finally came to her parents after the car was towed. Why was her car towed? I swear you can’t find real information on this story. Someone found a way to hide things or throw evidence. Her father used to be a sheriff. None of this makes any sense.
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Kurt Cobain2022-04-11 18:14:17 (edited 2022-04-14 20:44:10 )
If it was a man he would've gotten life in prison. I honestly have no idea how you can justify defending a child murderer as a lawyer. I know what arguments they use for it but it just seems like a way to cope with what they're doing or they just don't care at all. At least she served some years in prison I guess, not nearly enough though. Lawyers have absolutely no honor and will lie about dead victims and other stuff just to defend a horrible person.
Confessor Cromwell yea, I’m more comparing the drive behind trying to plead not guilty to the drive behind someone with a gambling problem. This case was pretty infuriating, especially if you think about what piss poor circumstantial evidence has locked up innocent people for life.
Can't believe she lied about high school and her parents back her up with that lie. Totally enabling her to do this shit. Poor little girl 🙏🏼🙏🏼 she didn't deserve this
why when he asks her 'how are you' with the male figure she instead replies how she looks...?
See...regardless of this particular in my opinion she looks like someone who's been abused when a child, too prideful to say it and always felt obbliged to lie and be afraid of her mum's reactions, like most of the abused children feel ashamed or anyway coerced to hide...
I'm just baffled, the Jury apparently thought there wasn't enough evidence and didn't like how "robotic" the prosecution was?? Absolutely baffled here.
@eShum There wasn't enough evidence in fact; they need clear evidence that she killed her, which they didn't have. Clues and indications don't count as clear evidence. As convincing as they may be, it just isn't enough.
@shashlik81 I don't think you get it; they know shes a murderer but by law they can't really do anything because there is no real evidence linking her to Caylee's death. I don't like it either, but you gotta respect it.
Graham Van Dyke2022-05-14 11:23:55 (edited 2022-05-14 11:24:12 )
I actually burst out laughing when she claimed she worked with someone who didn't exist called Juliette Lewis, because that's the name of a famous actress. My god, how was she acquitted.
@Cøckrõàch Maybe, but back then.... Probably not many clubs she could go to without being recognized and beaten senseless. By now she could probably walk right by most people and not be recognized. But her face was known by a lot of people back then.
She does actually have a twin brother who drives in nascar, named Racey Anthony. He could have something to do with all of this in the news these days.
@Nancy Martinez I completely understand your sentiments. You maybe want to be careful about saying/how you say someone deserves to be dead. I think that part of what separates us as decent actual human beings from the "monsterous" "barbarous" inhumane beings like her POSING as "people", is the fact that even when we think the planet would be better off without someone in it, we defer to the judicial system and channel our emotions towards better protecting the innocent and caring for our young.
The fact her best friend was worried about Casey’s child more than Casey was just proves that Casey’s is a cold blooded monster just as the detective said
Have no doubt... even if justice was not served in this life, this diabolical creature has not gotten away with anything. The wrath of God that she will face is surely more terrible than anything we humans could devise. RIP Caylee.
Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. Romans 12:19
She literally googled “suffocation” and “foolproof suffocation” the same day she killed her... she didn’t call the police for 31 days that her child was missing. She wrote in her diary she’s more happy then ever meanwhile her child was “missing”. The justice system has failed us😓
Its made to do that brutha. It promotes immorality while punishing moral men. Welcome to the mystery of iniquity. Codes of death reign supreme and the Laws of Life are mocked. All commercial codes. Because "citizen's" are merchandise..
@MarkMike there's more of these than one could count that don't get out on the national news. The only thing about this that's an exception is the level of gaslighting. Only matches by the rona games being played right now. Protecting 0.02% from dying and driving 150 million into poverty. And still the masses sleep.
the justice system failed that little girl. imagine where she could be now and it’s all her mothers fault. I don’t see why these sort of people have children. I could drop kick them for I all I care.
The justice system worked exactly as it should. It didn't fail, but you can make the argument the prosecution failed to present enough evidence to be deemed beyond a reasonable doubt.
A guy that killed my 2 little cousins (11 and 13) in a head on collision while under the influence of valium that wasn't his only got 5 years in prison,and also admitted to using heroin like a week prior while being in his 60s, the justice system fails more then it should be.
@MarkMike this case evokes a huge amount of emotion because people feel that Kaylee didn’t get justice. The mother Casey Anthony has a responsibility to her child that she failed to do. What mother doesn’t report her child missing. If memory serves me right Casey Anthony’s mother reported Kaylee missing not CASEY Anthony. . Casey’s mother put Casey on the line to the operator when the operator started asking specific questions. That was after the. 31 days of Kaylee not having been seen. It’s astonishing. Incidentally I agree with your statement regarding the current situation we’re facing, I don’t think you can wake the sheep up in this country.
Ya'll got it wrong. Most of the shit is unfortunately circumstantial, which is why she got off. Most of you are thinking the justice system failed us because of that.
But what the prevention of conviction based on circumstantial evidence provides is a safety net for those who might truly be innocent. If the law allowed circumstantial evidence to be grounds for a conviction, then anybody on the stand could go to prison entirely dependent on how well the Prosecutor could manipulate a jury. But because real, material evidence is required, someone who never actually committed the crimes they were charged with have a much, much better chance at walking away having been justly tried.
Its not a perfect system. Innocent people still go away and guilty people still walk, but no system is perfect and I think, regarding circumstantial evidence, the way it is now leaves the least amount of room for injustice as possible.
I only wish she'd slipped up and scratched her head or something when she put Caylee in the trunk, because I would love to see her get life without parole in a maximum security hole.
@CWARD ZIEGLER this, too. "Innocent until proven guilty."
There was a shadow of a doubt with Cacie because there wasn't any hard evidence. So, technically, she's innocent because there's nothing concrete that says otherwise.
Everybody is calling the justuce system flawed because they believe Cacie did it despite not having any evidence to prove it. They're making a judgement out of thin air and complaining that the system doesn't work like that. It's completely nonsensical, frankly.
Which I'll reiterate is not an issue with the system of laws, but an issue of people. Jose Baez is a shit human being for defending murderers and being able to manipulate people into letting his clients off scott free. Can't blame the jury because they were simply victims of Baez's snake oil. Some blame could go to the Judge because he still could have sentenced her, but I think when a judge goes against a jury that'll be his last case.
@D C you pose some good points. I spoke to a defense attorney, and his perspective was that he doesn't regard his client as guilty or innocent, and he simply wishes for the "due process" that we, as American citizens, are given rights to.
But I call Baez garbage because he refused to look at the glaring evidence, and instead of using the system of laws to properly defend his client, he chose to deceive the jury. That's a split hair, but there is a difference in my mind there that separates the good defense attorney from the garbage one.
The jury, in their imperfection, made their choice out of emotion instead of looking at the facts (which was exactly Jose Baez's words, except he said it in such a way as to actually cause an emotional reaction, which is the garbage part). However, having a jury is what makes our justice system so great: its true democracy. Not the bullshit fascism that the far-left calls democracy, but a real democratic decision. Not social justice, because not just anyone gets to be a juror, and certainly not hundreds of thousands of keyboard warriors, but true justice. And that, I believe, is why our system isn't flawed, but the people who make up our system (because, as with most social systems, systems are comprised of people). As far as the actual laws and codes, they change almost every day and I can't say whether they're just or not. Though I believe what the founding fathers created was pretty damn close to awesome.
@D C i suppose. But if the people weren't flawed, the system itself would be good. There are other systems comprised of people, like dictatorships or communist governments, where even if the people were not flawed, the system itself would still decay. My contradiction is a semantic shortcoming.
It wasn't my attorney, just a defense attorney I was able to question. And of.course there's a desire for money, but I don't feel that in itself is wrong. I think the ulterior motives are what separate the good from the bad. Is it truly about giving someone due process, or is it about maintaining a reputation?
And "guilt vs innocence" were my words, not the lawyers.
And yes, I've seen how jurors are selected, and its just another example of manipulation, but that doesn't mean its not democratic at its core. Its only the manipulation of who gets to sit in those seats that demolish the democracy.
If you watch the video chat she said to her parents "she was so lucky to have you as grandparents" as in she knew she was dead...I can't believe this wasn't used as evidence or even mentioned
@Digger Gardi i agree whole heartedly and put forth the idea that it is not just this event that is "theater". 99% of everything on the TV is. The news is what people call "mk ultra" trauma based mind control.. That's why its constant emotional and psychological trauma they spread. Everything from political theater to the theater war.. Everything about society is false and conforming to society makes one just as false. It just so happens there's an arm of the Vatican (HRE) called the society of jesus. Who perform theater on the world stage to manipulate the thoughts of those who see it. Dancing Israelis, you could say. A similar pattern of manipulating the beliefs of people is how they do here on youtube. Go to a cnn video and see 1 like and 9999 dislikes and the comments are filled with AI chat manipulating the people who read the comments.. When one becomes aware of the truth, one gains an understanding of real pain.. Its a sad state of affairs. So many are lost. Its heart breaking.
@MisterExclusive your argument regarding Casey scratching herself and leaving evidence depends heavily on the age of DNA forensic evidence. Court cases were organised and operated long before we could rely on such methodology. So keeping this in mind, what in your opinion would not be considered circumstantial evidence prior to being able to use DNA evidence?
The truth is, there are varying degrees and levels of circumstantial evidence. Pre-DNA evidence era justice used a combination of strong, incriminating circumstantial evidence, and connected the dots. That's how detectives were able to bring charges against people.
Detective reports and testimonies are, and have historically been used extensively in criminal trials to reach a verdict. Your argument falls flat on its face. The one thing you got right, was that the system is not perfect, because it involves imperfect people. But the fact remains, that there was more than enough incriminating evidence to justify a guilty verdict here.
@Vaga-Bard GTF wait a sec.. so... it's easier for you to believe the system is designed to put moral, upstanding, citizens away, and to put people who break the law back on the streets, than it is to believe it's run by people and people make mistakes?
this isn't evidence though... this is all speculation! you need evidence or a confession for conviction, and they had neither because she's a cold hearted psychopath that knows how to cover her tracks, unfortunately. If we could be jailed for the things we google search then a lot more of the population would be in jail
@herogibson yes that is a true statement. But I didn't mean that. Citizen in any form is acceptable. Its the ones who dont bow to men and their commercial codes. Its designed to corrupt the citizens.
@herogibson The truth is that the State is a conspiracy designed not only to exploit, but above all to corrupt its citizens ... Henceforth, I shall never serve any government anywhere.
@herogibson in the literal sense yes it can be evidence, especially in this case. but it can only be obtained as evidence only if a crime has been commited.... and you're a suspect.. and they have a valid warrant for the your computer and the warrant allows them to search the computer... but main emphasis on the fact that a crime has to be committed first. it can be evidence of premeditation but it doesn't physically tie anyone to the crime itself. it can be evidenec of motive. motive and premediation have to be proven in order for them to succefuly try and convict first degree murder. which is most likely why they put so much emphasis on her googling that shit, they were trying for first degree murder. as a stand alone, internet history is not enough to prove guilt BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. They had no DNA evidence, they had no withnesses to the murder, they had no witnesses to the body dump, they had no witnesses to previous abusive or neglectful behavior or at least none that came forward to establish a patterned behavior, they had nothing tying her to the murder other than gut feelings and rumors, and the speculation that her inquiry on google equated to her following through with the inquiry. You can't make conclusions based on rumors and emotions in the court of law, there would be a lot more wrongful convictions if that is the case. **You are innocent until proven guilty beyond a resonable doubt** Again, beyond a reasonable doubt. If you were innocent and being tried for first degree murder you definitely would want the same treatment, and not have people jump to conclusions because you googled some questoinable shit. A good example of this is the case of this guy, i think in florida, who was tried and found innocent because he never commited the crime even though his internet histroy was riddled with cannibalism forums and posts about intending to murder and it came down to the fact that looking up shit and your behavior online is not a crime (********at least in America because its protected under the first amendment*******) without the phsyicality of a crime to follow that up. I stand by my statement that there would be a lot more people in jail if all you had was their interenet history to convict them on.
@MisterExclusive THANK YOU for being a voice of reason! I watch a lot of these types of videos and you'd think more people would be informed of how our justice system works... i know my rights, i think everyone should, but unfortunately I see the contrary so often.
@herogibson yeah I've been studying law for 4 years. I can break the law and everything will be fine. I just discredit the word of the accuser and play language games to win in "court". And that's only if i desire to place myself under their jurisdiction. Those commercial codes arent law. Btw. And society is the false reality. I live in the real world. But I appreciate your time.
@herogibson actually studying history of commercial codes (eastern Mediterranean 12 bc and the island of rhodes before that) and their application and alterations across time. Looking at court cases and applications of jurisdiction relating to them. Defining the terms of the game so to actually understand legalese. (Which is Latin, which is the language of the dead) Looking at history to see the 3 corporate capitals, london, D.C and vatcian city. The psychology studies are by far my favorite though. When you actually understand those, then you dig into the ancient myths you see their the same. These 2 things are what the bible is. The beast from the sea is these codes. Commercial codes. Guess whos head of commerce? You might not get it. But your owners do. And you might not like to hear that but its true. According to the codes a statement not rebutted is legally true. So they made the statement "we own every body and mind on the planet". Until you rebut the claim it is true. If you obey commercial codes (a game of pretend) you are merchandise. They know that, why dont you? What does international law govern? Why are you submitting to it then? And they built everything around it. I recommend you begin studying. The system assumes you know the law and will treat you as such. Youtube is a small tool. Blacks law and Gov.com are useful. A common tactic of unintelligent people is to discredit a source of legitimate information. Just because youtube has some real loons, doesn't take away from the fact that truthful information is also available. If you applied that same logic anywhere else this conversation wouldn't be happening. And its false. So.........
@Vaga-Bard GTF i feel like you have lost the plot here. let's start over, and possibly finish therein. you said her searches weren't evidence. i said they were. then you said they are in the literal sense of the word or whatever.. so.. literally evidence, in your words. conversation could have been over with there. but you're trying to prove to either this comment section, or yourself, that you know all the things, and you're real, not fake. so, you keep going on and on and on and on lmao.
@herogibson im honestly ashamed of myself for missing that.... I too study those things.. I think im to serious. Thank you for a very important lesson. I needed it.
That wasn't me that you discussed evidence with tho. It was Lee Wisda. But I appreciate your time nonetheless. Thanks.
@vaughn amir. Whats up.? Are you curious about one of my comments? Or were you not aware that the state (and society) are false, totally imaginary and exist only to extort the individuals and most importantly to corrupt them... Theres a reason lawyers destroy law, cops destroy liberty, teachers destroy education, politicians destroy nations, mans religion destroys truth and the news blasts bad news 24/7.. Reality is inverted for those who are ego based. The actuality is the opposite of what things seem to be. The truth is within but 99% worship some external source of pleasure..
Her lawyer focused on George, her father, it was a dick move. He said she’d been sexually abused by her father & her brother since she was very young. He also said that Caylee drowned in the family pool, that George found her & told Casey to act like nothing was wrong because people knew she was neglectful mother & she’d be put in prison for child neglect. He went on to say George was an ex police officer & he put Caylee’s body there after the fact, since the the police had already checked there. He totally turned the focus around from Casey to her father George. They had to all agree w/o a reasonable doubt, but because that made some of them skeptical of George’s involvement. Her lawyer also brought up her non chalet attitude & pointed out that Casey was used to acting like nothing was wrong since she’d been molested her whole life by her dad and brother, it really put a spanner in the works, since there was treasonable doubt they all agreed on a not guilty verdict. . I know it’s crazy !
@Amber Chipchase Hayes tbh her lawyer is a really good one. Being able to turn a case like that shows it all
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David Todevski2021-06-03 10:48:51 (edited 2021-06-03 10:50:01 )
@Davide Passarello this case in my opinion was a complete fraud ... lying about the work lying about the babysitter making people up an what not she lied literally about everything she opened her mouth about and all of those things combined and she still is free out there ... a true psychopath edit: plus the google search history ... truly terrifying
@Shades 1.5 ye exactly. Rational evaluation might not work every time and this is an example, but it works most of the time. And laws can't be adapted to single cases
I looked it up and you will be happy to know that she actually did serve a 4 year sentence for the lying part at the very least... Still though she desserves life in prison at the very least. Jury must have been full of idiots that were not paying attentionto the evidence and were easily won over by the defences charm, a good Lawyer but an absolute scumbag technique.
@Davide Passarello I would even say, it works every time, even if it feels otherwise. This is the perfect example, without real proof/evidence, the whole story is just speculation based on speculations. Her lawyer, as you said too, was amazing...coming up with a story wich is pretty much impossible to prove or disprove and debunking ( maybe not the correct word, english isnt my first language ) the prosecutor at the same time, was insane.
@Shades 1.5 I agree with you also for being sociopathic like that means she had a childhood trauma for sure. And the way she bursts into tears when they evoke the sexual abuse when she is otherwise completely cold. And the absence of reaction of the dad in front of the accusations. I genuinely believe that her dad abused her AND that she killed her child, both make sense to me.
@Shades 1.5 But it was her father who reported that her car smelled like a corpse, plus her mother called the police. And how they interacted while she was on county jail kinda rules that out, did you watch the video?
@Shades 1.5 Also, remember that she searched how to suffocate someone on Google, man, and that the defense was not consistent. They claimed Caylee drowned, yet she had duct tape over her face, plus Casey's journal about how she made the right decision and was the happiest she ever was...
@Shades 1.5 If her dad, who was a cop, staged everything, then why did she search on Google how to suffocate someone without it being noticed, why did they drop the body so close to their home, why did she went out partying 24/7 while her daughter was supposedly missing, why did she lied about the nanny and basically everything? Doesn't look like something staged by a someone with inside knowledge about how the police works at all.
@Shades 1.5 My point is that there was a substantial amount of evidence pointing towards her as the murderer, and that she got away due to the lack of a confession, a highly skilled attorney and a bad prosecution.
@peadar mckinney he spent his whole life accepting and forgiving her, and she treats him like this?. this is what spoiling, giving everything to your child, giving them 0 discipline does.
@Shades 1.5 it is much more than feelings, i put logic over feelings and even i can tell this case was fucked beyond recognition...someone already brought up the computer and the diary, which already disproves some of the points the defense made. and why the duct tape? it’s all EVIDENCE pointing to a different direction, NOT feelings
@prod. waviee That’s not actually true. They usually ream mothers who kill their children, because it’s more shocking, plus, due to the fact that they let men out earlier for the same crime because the prisons for men are so overcrowded, women serve longer sentences for the same crime.Women are found not guilty by reason of insanity, however.
@Shades 1.5 how is it 20/20 hindsight if this evidence was presented in court to the jury? It seems that people who call others "idiot" and "emotional" on the internet tend to be guilty of these things themselves.
@Davide Passarello no, it just shows how dumb and easy to manipulate the jury is. Every murder case's defense comes up with some ridiculous spin on things. He added not only one lie about drowning but then had to use the father sexual abuse card to justify her being a pathological liar.
@Amber Chipchase Hayes 1(charismatic lawyer with talent for showmanship and spinning tall tales) + 1(12 idiots on the jury who don't understand the difference between circumstantial evidence and reasonable doubt) = 2(not guilty verdict)
It just comes down to reasonable doubt. There was physical evidence, however, there can be doubt in what the evidence actually means. For instance, with the car, I believe it was proven that a body was most likely in the vehicle. If I remember correctly, they even found a hair that was proven to have come from a human corpse. However, there can still be reasonable doubt as to who’s body it was, who put the body there, who actually murdered the person, if the person was actually murdered or if perhaps they died some other way, and so on. Our justice system operates in a way that, if and when you land on one of these juries, if you think there’s even a tiny possibility that they did not commit the crime, you cannot convict. In cases like this, it does seem wildly unfair. But knowing just how many wrongful convictions occur on a daily basis even WITH this practice, I do think it is much more fair than the alternative. Now, that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t love to see Casey experience some less “official” justice... I personally believe that she did kill Cailey, and it’s beyond upsetting to think about her living life just like the rest of us. The prosecution should have fought harder for a confession. That was the only thing that would have won this case.
@Lila she lied about literally everything, you don’t think she can shed a few tears for the supposed abuse? I personally don’t believe she was abused. Just another grasp for innocence like the drowning in a pool story that obviously worked, painting her as some “traumatized poor mother.” Pathetic.
For me this is an example of how the justice system is broken. The defense wins the case because the lawyer is a superior public speaker and knows how to manipulate the jury... sad for that little girl
@Shades 1.5 you’re making assumptions about me... sounds like you might be going off of emotions. i actually did read everything. i know what the outcome of the case is, and i understand your point.. but just cause the law ruled her out, doesn’t mean she’s not guilty.
@Shades 1.5 u also are speculating just because the father was a cop out of statistics , there were also tiny bits of evidence that really make her look suspect as hell and that also seemed plausible , just because it had emotion attacthed to it doesnt make it a complete shit reasoning like who wouldnt feel such a way about someone. Really a major player to her success was her lawyer
@Shades 1.5 all u was saying basically was law doesnt care about feelings , yet not seeming to acknowledge both sides manipulated emotions of people viewing both sides ... no matter how much people want to seperate from emotion.. its literally human nature to have emotion
@Shades 1.5 dawg just cause im debating with u doesnt mean i didnt understand what u meaning. Dont start sounds corny now , i was mainly speaking on this particular case might have trailed off a sentence or two but that its .
@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing? lol what? I didn’t want people to get the idea that I was in any way defending this woman, so I was trying to be as clear as I could with what I was saying...Was I supposed to use emojis or something to keep it light? Not sure what you want. All I did was give an opinion on why the jury gave a not guilty verdict. I’ve been stuck on a jury before, and I based my opinion on my experience with being on a jury and what I happen to know about the case. Im not saying I’m happy she got off. I wish she was rotting just as much as everyone else here. Sometimes there’s not enough evidence, and sometimes the evidence that IS there can be explained away. What, did I invent doubt? Anyways, props to you for the insight you brought to the table i guess, even if it was just that you didn’t like how i said mine and that i created the jury system
@Shades 1.5 Even if it’s “FAcTS OvEr FeElinGs” this entire case was stupid and she was only proved innocent due to a horrible defense. Any logical person could obviously see that she was guilty. Facts over feelings doesn’t ignore basic common sense. Killing a child is a serious offense and they should’ve focused on the case better expect ignoring it and focusing on how the child got sexually assaulted.
@Shades 1.5 trial was not fair though? The defense team was great at deceiving the jury, that’s it. The evidence points towards her yet the defense ignored it and went on to other things
@Shades 1.5 if my “feelings” are correct (even if it’s obvious she’s guilty DUE TO FACTS) then I’d rather listen to that than the “facts” that you ignore :)
@KINGOFTHEDEAD court ans jury duty has to work on evidence, even if you think she's guilty unfortunately they couldn't tie her to anything except lies which her lawyer helped her get out of
At the time, I had a co-worker who thought Casey did not actually kill Caylee herself, that she gave the kid to someone else to take care of, and something went wrong. That could be true. That's why there was reasonable doubt and the jury had to acquit; there was not enough evidence that she did it herself. She may at least share moral responsibility (under my co-worker's scenario) but that's not enough to convict.
Our justice system says you need to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. This video doesn't have all the evidence or testimony. Only the people that were in the courtroom, the entire time, can have a true opinion on reasonable doubt for this case. If you are on a jury, and you are not fully convinced of guilt, you have reasonable doubt. Trials are not decided on the news, by media personalities that are just trying to make a name for themselves, or saying whatever they need to, to get ratings. In this video, the defense lawyer provided an alternate scenario. The prosecution could only speculate what actually happened. The burden is on the prosecution to prove the case. With only speculation on the events that lead to the death, and the defense giving an alternate scenario to the evidence, there is surely reasonable doubt.
@Just Another Youtuber Race, gender, and even attractiveness play a part in a person's conviction. That is a proven fact! There is tons of research to prove that so anyone who says otherwise is just plain ignorant or dumb. However I will say that lawyer made that happen for her more than anything. She also lucked out by having a really dumb jury that day.
@Just Another Youtuber Why obsess over one data point? In court many factors come into play. Intelligence, good lawyers, gender, attractiveness, money, socio-economic background, criminal history, State/County/City trial is held in, media coverage, prosecutor, luck/skill at selecting jurors, social or political movements going on around time of trial. That plus a thousand other factors besides race.
Because shes not guilty, the child died in the pool under tge oarents care. Her mother saw the child floating in the pool. Have anybody thought that there is no father figure that came out in the case the one they said was the father is an actor afraid of the ex police ti harm him maybe. For he never stood firm as the father there are nany acts in thise case.
@sarasthoughts that is still consistent with my co-worker's theory, that she gave the kid to someone to take care, and something went wrong. We still don't know that SHE killed her daughter. We actually don't know whether anyone killed her, she may have died in an accident or from neglect, etc. I agree that someone other than a young pretty white woman would have had an uphill climb to get acquitted, but I can see why the jury found enough reasonable doubt. What we know of her actions are despicable, but were not enough to convict.
The prosecution was horrible. I watched the entire case. The defense demolished them in every way. It’s sad because she’s 100% guilty. The Justice system failed Caylee with horrible prosecutor’s
@Misty Rivers so why didn’t she report it to the police? why did she make up stories ab the nanny and the people she worked with? why did she lead the police in a wild goose chase? why was caylee found w duck tape over her mouth? why did the trunk of the car reek of a dead corpse? explain that.
@Just Another Youtuber everyone arguing in this comment section are agreeing on the main fact that the justice system in America (not just America) is fucked up. I don’t think you meant that the only factor in her being found not guilty is her being a white woman it definitely could’ve played a part.
It wasn't their fault, the prosecution simply didn't do it's job well enough
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Andrew B2022-01-27 14:14:09 (edited 2022-01-27 14:15:14 )
What proof of murder did they have? Could they prove it was the mother who killed? You can't convict on feelings, no matter how strong. She desvered child neglected tho
@Richard Forrester here’s a tip: learn how to at least spell before acting ignorant. At least let it appear like an act lmao. I don’t know what a “answear” is
@Richard Forrester Zimmerman was not justified. Smollet is in court right now. So now you’re a fortune teller? He’s going to face justice. He was community policing. He was never a real officer. In that case Smollet is justified since we can just say what we are and it never has consequences. It doesn’t matter if Ted Bundy got the chair if they still make movies and documentaries about them. He’s still being hailed as some mastermind. And oh boy. There you go with the shoulda coulda woulda. White people should’ve never colonized America. MLK could’ve never been shot. Once you start bringing up the “should’ve” you’ve lost kid. Go to school 😂
@Just Another Youtuber it doesn't. Both my parents are white and both are serving over 30 year sentences in separate prisons for completely seperate things. Most of the people there are white and spanish
Finding a person guilty or not guilty is not based on what the person did, guilty or not, but solely on the evidence presented. That's the law, and that's to protect the innocent as well as protect the guilty in some cases.
@netherwarper that’s one case in the millions of other injustices. Just because your parents got their justice doesn’t mean the millions of others didn’t.
@Just Another Youtuber You mean EXACTLY like this case? the one you're heavily insinuating the outcome is primarily racially driven despite the incredibly obvious fact the verdict was reached because of a lack of evidence? it was incredibly obvious she was involved - but you can't exactly charge someone with murder without any concrete evidence unless they practically admit to it.
If she was hypothetically found guilty, would her race, gender, appearance, socio-economic status etc etc absolutely play a factor? without a doubt - but you're straight up just grasping at straws literally because she's a white, it's ignorant as fuck and helps absolutely no one - especially those actually discriminated against in this context.
@TheChinaVirus MadeInChina3 lmfao so now you’re gonna pretend like you’re trolling because you don’t have a point. I see the special class let out early today
Casey lying about her father was beyond disgusting. I can’t imagine how depressed I would be if someone close to me made up those disgusting lies especially considering how that same father, Caylee’s grandfather, seemed to have nothing but love for his granddaughter
Not backing het up at all but maybe pops was never there to begin with so this is his way of showing his guilt I don't know we don't know but my father is never there for my kids thinks only money is the answer so I know it hapoens
There is smth really weird about this kid. Firstly, we never know about the identity of father. He never showed up to court. Okay, there is a possibility that she accidentally got pregnant during a hookup but never involving kid’s dad in this is kinda weird. And are we sure she is lying about her dad? Idk. I feel like there are a lot of things that jury didn’t disclose to media. Maybe she was cold blooded inhuman person cuz of her kid being her dad and her?idk but smth is off with story. Especially considering how family is scared of embarrassment (like they threw a party for fake graduation lol)that’s actually concerning situation. I believe that this woman has killed or caused the death of the kid but I am sure that she wasn’t the only person who is involved in this. She got help.
@Emily Wan Dosen I absolutely agree. I think there are much more aspects and shades to this case. Too bad the general opinion is extremized. Yeah she's an awful person, but this doesn't mean that she can be the only one. I was surprised to see that anyone took for granted that she was outright lying about her dad. I don't think that a healthy family can grow such a person like her, is that possible? Idk.
I don’t know, I mean the lies are disgusting but he seemed to support Casey even though he must have known she did it. They’re all disgusting in my opinion.
@Brittany Anne it was during the trial. I remember the defense having a field day with him cuz he went to a hotel and took a bunch of Xanax attempting suicide. Poor guy
I think it’s actually very likely that she really was abused by her father. If the defense wanted to make up some fake story of her being abused to explain her behavior, there was no reason for them to choose the father as the fake abuser, they could’ve chosen literally anyone else. Plus, the logic does follow that being abused like that as a child and learning to lie to cover it up would explain a lot of her behavior. Also yes she left her daughter with him, but 1) someone who’s been in denial of their abuse their whole life can easily continue to exist in that state where they pretend like everything’s fine 2) she clearly didn’t have that much regard for her daughter’s life anyway so why would she care enough to make sure she doesn’t get abused?
tldr: Casey Anthony is mad guilty and talking about her abuse as a child was a fucked up way to get sympathy, but that doesn’t mean the abuse never happened
@Sydney Brun-Ozuna they used the father because nobody else would have immediate and constant access to Casey than him to commit the abuse…then the weight alone of a father doing that versus anybody else grabs attention more.
@Sydney Brun-Ozuna How can you be so gullible as to believe this abuse story? She lied about every single detail possible, why in the hell would you believe her 1000th excuse after the previous 999 all turned out to be lies? She would come up with anything to ease her sentence or manipulate the case otherwise. Choosing her father is the most 'logical' choice and she obviously has no regard to his well being as she is extremely egoistical and would lie and sell her entire family if it meant her benefit.
@Flame Yy No it does not, sexual harassment is way worse than murder, I’d definitely rather be killed than sexually harassed, especially by my own father! U have no idea
@Rockswanninoff "the Mom has the sort of personality disorder that only happens to people with fucked up childhoods." You know this because you're so well attuned to popular narratives? Is that it?
@UnikoU ARMY No it is definitely not. I'm sure the overwhelming majority of sexual victims are glad they are still alive, as hard as their trauma might be.
@Brittany Anne He went to a motel and brought plenty of pills and liquor with the intent and in his own words later said 'I guess I didn't take enough'
@Laura Sofia I agree. Her parents are messed up to. How could they be so nice to her knowing she did something to her own daughter. And it made me cringe how her father addressed her as "her gorgeous"...it is not hard to see why Casey values her appearance and having fun above being honest and a good person!
A lot of women are like this. They only care about having fun. Fun 24/7. They can't have a serious conversation. They think everything is funny. I find it disgusting. How can people like Casey exist where she had no remorse about what she did to her own daughter.
I don't believe a word that comes out of this woman's mouth! Casey's parents believed everything she said. She never had consequences. I think she's surprised the cops wouldn't buy her lies. For that she reminds me of Josh Duggar.
We will never know the truth. But I can tell you from other facts & research that it does NOT take being brought up in a bad situation to make you a psychopath like Casey was. I have seen it happen to people with perfect families. Sometimes the brain just doesn't work the same in some people. Regardless, I could see the pain of losing both granddaughter & daughter in their eyes when this happened. They tried their best to find out where Caylee was. It broke their heart to know Casey most likely did something bad to her. How can any parent comprehend their kid doing this to their grandbaby. It is literally incomprehensible. I pray for them. It is something that will haunt them forever. 💔 May little Caylee rest in peace. 😢
@Milky Way I do that to my daughter. I say "hey pretty baby" and nothing is meant other than me saying I think she's pretty. He probably said that considering how stressful he knew she was and that kind of compliment can help. He didn't exsert any other suspicion or continually talk to her in an inappropriate manner.
@UnikoU ARMY I'm sorry it has happened to you but I don't believe you in the least. You are still alive, still having fun, still watching Youtube videos, have your entire life ahead of you. Take whatever professional help you need, reach out to people, stop overdramatizing and move your life forward, something that the dead cannot do.
@Vladi P the only reason I’m still alive is that I’ve tried so many times to unalive myself, but failed and I’m sick of being on watch. Also who says I’m having fun? U just assumed that 🙃
@UnikoU ARMY Because you are still capable of doing things you like for fun (like being on Youtube right now) and will be able to for many years to come. Even traumatic/depressed people are having fun from time to time or under certain activities. You still have people that care about you around you. Moods/depressions are things that come and go. You sound like you are still a child, so I guarantee you a day will come when you are happy and remember the things you've just said as cringey overdramatization. You have one life, full of potential to overweight whatever trauma you've went through. The dead don't have that and you do not wish to be in their place.
like it or not, she was not convicted so making her not able to work is setting her up for welfare for life, I would like her to work and not be supported by me
@Sharon Herzog I think she should be put into forced work and have it be working directly for someone else so that she could NEVER be the main character in her own life.
@Hackerwacker Why are you even defending a mother who has a history of lying (skips loads of school) and after her child went missing goes to visit her boyfriend instead of calling the police for over 30 days lies again about where she works makes up random peoples names to blame for something she did How can you with a working human brain see all this evidence even her parents believing she did it and still think she is innocent
@Aozoraii Plays It doesn't matter what "Evidence" you create in your fantasy, she was found innocent in court and it's disgusting what the cops and people like you put that innocent woman through
@erin basulto you don't threaten me with a good time. Frankly I feel if someone did, this type of event would almost cease in America because these ppl would have to fear the "justice" system & public retaliation. I also don't know why but I feel like it'll be a headline soon, like someone snapped on her in a restaurant or something
Nope! She has multiple businesses and married to a lawyer who worked on the OJ Simpson case. Writing a book+movie about herself rn. Can't make this stuff up.
@OBannon at first she kinda impressed me with her ability to lie but i realised shes a one trick pony she can only do one emotion and shes been doin it her whole life. also in general she doesnt seem very smart
@Hackerwacker So you think that way because the jury said so? I'm asking what YOU think about the evidence not what other people or the justice system thinks. Just really want to know your opinion
@HackerwackerHow does is make her look innocent? There was duct tape around the kid's head, she searched up "suffocation" and wrote that she was so happy about her decision in her diary around the time of death
@Hackerwacker You do know being aquited does not mean you're innocent right? It means there was not enough evidence to 100% prove that you did it. That's all it means.
@dodgersfn Shepard I want to refute this but considering she moved in almost immediately with a detective that worked on her case (for the defense of course) in Florida, I can't refute that.
@basketballchick93 I'm glad to hear it. She deserves to live her best life free of fear and judgment. Too bad there are so many people like the trolls in here creating their fantasy world that she is guilty
Don’t worry guys. There is no way that the person who started all the arguments in the comments actually believes what he/she is saying. It’s probably a troll
@weapse Thankfully she had the bravery to call the police after that man assulted her by throwing his drink at her. They were probably a crazy conspiracy theorists like yourself who might have followed her home and hurt her because they were fooled by the malicious and evil prosecution
She literally says “I can’t even put it into words how glad I am that she’s HAD both of you” then she caught herself and says “And that she STILL HAS both of you”
I was reading the comment right when I was listening to the video and I was like, “ I haven’t got to that part yet” then when I’m almost done reading it I heard all of it on the video, I was like,” Nope I’m at that part🤣🤣😂🤣😂”
That could definitely be a Freudian slip, but it could also be inferred that she subconsciously believed the child was gone forever and that the "still has" part was her trying to be encouraging. I don't think that's the case, but it's because of those kind of potential inferences why that slip is not considered a confession.
@johannnes paul I don’t feel like you came blame the parents, half the time they didn’t know what was going on. You can’t blame a second party for what a first party have done, there is plenty of single mums that bring up a child perfectly fine and healthy without murdering them. Without Casey telling them I don’t think they would have known, maybe just a fact of being oblivious. Casey is clearly an evil person. The only thing I don’t understand is why if they smelt dead body in a car removed the bin bag which was originally in it without checking?
@johannnes paul okay I see, you want to bring abortion into it. The difference between many women who get an abortion and this situation is they feel guilt even though they shouldn’t have. It was clear throughout this whole video Casey felt no remorse for killing her 3 year old conscious child. This child is old enough to feel and understand everything that went on clearly, a ball of cells is not able to understand or feel a thing. Abortion only very rarely happens after 24 weeks and this is in cases where giving birth to the child would cause damage to both the child and the mother. There are many situations where abortion is needed to prevent mental health collapses such as by someone who has been raped, someone who is not mentally prepared to hold a child in their stomach for 9 months etc. Calling them slutty is a vile thing to say, I don’t know if you are aware of the fact that protection is not 100% full proof and last time I checked it’s mostly men who are bothered about wearing a condom. It is not your body, you are not carrying a baby for 9 months. Are you a man? I don’t really think you should comment on the experiences of women when you have not experienced them. You are basically saying having sex consents to pregnancy yet you wouldn’t drive a car and agree to getting killed in an accident, you are aware of the risks in driving the car and proceed in spite of them. The same is for sex. If you think it’s easy for a mother to get an abortion you are clearly mistaken and need to educate yourself. There are many more situations than you can even comprehend. Abortion is healthcare and should be legalised, if you make it illegal it will still happen just in worse conditions even if you don’t agree with it. Putting more people at risk of mental health issues and the baby’s future. Please don’t compare abortion to a mother brutally murdering their child. I don’t understand how you can say it isn’t first degree murder, she clearly planned out very carefully to kill her child, she neglected her child and researched how to kill her which there is evidence for and then carried it out and then afterwards felt absolutely no remorse and lied about the events to protect her own ass. You’re telling me that wasn’t planned murder? Any other sane person would tell their family they were struggling and hand their child over or feel extremely guilty after killing their own child. This was no second degree murder.
@Kirstie there’s no point in trying to teach “johannnes paul,” all of their points seem to be fueled by rage and they’re trying to dismiss what’s happening by bringing in abortion laws and police brutality, it’s a lost cause :/
@Kirstie You’re 1,000% right. Don’t even waste your time responding to that person. They can barely spell correctly and make no sense. It’s most likely someone not in their right mind or a child.
Right, I feel like her parent should’ve been asking what did she meant by “had”. They probably didn’t hear that or thought they misheard something given by how staticky the phones were.
@Kirstie her parents not ONLY LIED about her graduating, but said she "graduated with honors" then proceeded to throw her a party for it. What kind of parents do that????
@кот Арсис it is present perfect. It wasn't really a correction, more of a clarification, because she probably realized that it sounded vague. I'm not saying she wasn't lying; just that what people are calling past tense wasn't.
Cases like these are so scary, because Casey's defense team had reinforced the idea she has that she can get away with anything, they're enabling her sociopathy
Exactly. Her whole life before this showed that by there being no consequences for bad behaviour and lying it turned her into a child killer. To lie about killing and get away with that too....hate to think of the next crazy thing she does.
People never understand that defense is exactly what Shitty people want. And the people who defend them don’t even know they’ve put themselves in the line of fire....enabling an abuser gives them a feeling of invincibility
@David Meehan My comment isn't about how well the defense attorney did his job, it was more about the effects of that, being that he has reinforced the idea that Casey can get away with anything. Casey is the subject.
Everybody is innocent until proven guilty in the United States of America. Trump, Epstein, the Clintons, Casey, you, everybody. You should be blaming the prosecution for having such an easy case but presenting their facts in such a way that the defense was able to win and not the defense team who did what they were trained and payed to do. Sorry if you cant separate your emotions to understand that.
@Ulto what won't happen is me doing what you think I should do. In my opinion, which I am entitled to, she is guilty, and I have respectfully commented accordingly. You may consider trying it.
@David Meehan idk about this. Did the lawyer come up with the defense that Casey was molested by her father at 8 years old or did Casey. You wouldn't criticize a lawyer for fabricating that defense to get a killer off the hook?
louiseleu this comment scares the shit out of me, idk man I’m not saying I’m a heartless person but those psychopathic feelings sound really relevant to me. Ima work every second to not be this because this is just idek how to describe. Evil lingers in dark corners
Psychopathy is a pop culture term at this point, it is not recognized in the medical field therefore one can't be diagnosed with psychopathy, you can however be diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder aka sociopathy. My point is that trying to differentiate between the terms psychopathy and sociopathy as if psychiatrists have agreed to a definition of the former is silly, professionals will tolerate the word being used by laymen to mean sociopathy or better yet aspd but to try and argue its something different is classic armchair criminology/psychology/whatever
@Ellis Wright i respect all religions, was relgious at one point until studying deeply in college religion . But thats like praying and not acting. When people said they were praying for my daughter before she passed from covid at age 9, it made me a little upset. Not at religion so much as the people who prayed for my baby did nothing to comfort her. Never called. Never donated towards a vaccine so it wont happen to others, they all had an ideal. But only prayed for it to be fixed, instead of doing something like donate, help in their free time. No disrespect i dont mean to over analyze a kind comment like yours . But praying with action is better than just praying. The effects this virus has on children is horrible and life long CNS related issues are starting to become more clear through its harmful effects on dopamine. Pray, and do right. I have cancer in my gastrointestinal tract , and have few weeks left. I was always taught morals that i carry with me to this day.
Family and friends are the most important thing. Doing anything to keep them safe is what should be done, no boundaries. If I hadn't been donating 90% of my paycheck to mental health, and other causes / working in soup kitchen without pay id have more time. And i make 60$ per hour. And even without donating my time/$ id still be in a bad place due to health insurance changes that happened overnight by 45. I have no regrets. Except for not going to see the things I've done working in a PMC most my life. Taking lives in the name of religion I didn't bealive in, it was a long contract to keep people safe from a tribal region pushing Christianity onto a smaller tribe through violence. Be good. Do whats right. Relize some humans should be 'liquidated' for the civilians and average human. I am out of it from chemotherapy. Stay safe
People think its.funny this is what is occuring. Or occured. Because this account is shared between a team on the floor i work (before remote work) most of videos are private, the cat ones. Games, children at park with parents are the co workers. I did the maths, litterally 98.6% is private videos. I wasnt aware it had uploads. Its just auto login for me on my work laptop. This is sad for many reasons. Most is it shows people don't take time to even read the about info, or ask they assume. I only comment now due to my emotional state and PTSD. When laying in a bed for so long with self pitty, something we all have done. You need to stimulate your brain or you go crazy. So i choose to comment. Start fundraisers, change my Will, do many things. Bealive me or not , i can really care less, i dont know you people messaging me and threatning me yada yada. Or the comments that take things at face value without simply asking. Goes right to 5.57 to the head messages. Which was kind of expected being YouTube and people thinking they are safe by commenting and wont have their addresses , and documentation exposed are wrong. The VPN most used is one that is a simple breech. I digress. Forget that, and remember just do the right thing. Relgious or not, this or that. Judt be smart. I understand most of the world are dumb (dumb and have issues, people who get enraged over comments they think are false need mental.help and thats not a dig, mental health is serious and if letters and words on a comment make you so mad as to threaten my life and tbe co workers whom use this account, your priorities are in the wrong place. Be good , good people and thanks for the love. I cried after reading many, sorry for not writing back individual.
Idle Hour while I am very sorry for your loss, I find it odd that you carry some angst on you. Possibly anger? Maybe disappointment?
As you said yourself, you were very busy and even regret not having more time. What if these people were busy? Dealing with their own issues? Didn’t have the time etc.
It is a little cold to pass judgement on people saying they should do more, when it is your preconceived notion this is what they should do to be in the “right”.
These people are praying and asking for help and healing to what they believe to be the highest power in all of existence and the universe. They are talking and pleading with the ultimate answer and what they believe is the whole meaning to our existence. This is the biggest influence in their life in terms of dealing with strife and grief and pain. It is the utmost final say in what comes to be and what effects your life and theirs.
I think looking down on that, and acting like this is meaningless (whether or not you think it is fully, or if it is meaningless in terms of it doing nothing) actually says more about how you feel rather than them. How you view prayer and what it’s effect is, does not reflect on what it means to those people and how important it is for them. We should never downplay it like that, or detract from it.
This is coming from somebody who does not pray, and is not very religious. I know how much it means to those people and the fact that they chose to place your family and their health in their prayers is quite a big deal.
I know you wish people could have done more or should have done more, but it’s always easy to see things that way after events have transpired. Obviously people can ALWAYS DO MORE, but expecting that from other people or assuming it should not be the standard. We never know the situation others are in.
With all that said, I hope your family finds peace and healing, and my heart goes out to you. Stay close to your loved ones around you. Stay strong and be strong for your family! Life can be so terrible, but there is always something to live for ❤️❤️
She’s daddy’s little princess. She can’t possibly be held responsible for her actions! You know that because any time a family member implied her guilt, she lashed out like a viper and then switches to sweet little 5 year old distracted by her pretty dolly. She’s not insane, she’s a can do no wrong little princess who has never been told no or held accountable. I hope her father knows he is why his granddaughter is dead. Mom is guilty too, but not as much as dad.
@wristpain I mostly agree. She's young and I have some belief in rehabilitation, though it would take significant effort on her part that she probably wouldn't give. But otherwise, yes it's important to punish people within the one life we know for sure we have. Also, I know I may be in the minority and don't want to make this a religious discussion, but eternal hell is overkill for almost any crime.
This case is also why I have mixed feelings about jury trials.
@Olivia • Idle Hour • you play a lot of computer games for a dude who lost his kid to cancer and was just about to die himself. Not saying that's bad, I'm just amazed that someone be so surrounded by mortality and make a bunch of gaming videos for YouTube. Maybe I should get back into gaming?
@Olivia • Idle Hour • Dont respect what doesnt exists, educate people about it no matter how defensive they get. Human mind is beyond religion, there is nothing to support it, there is only decisions and consequences.
I still cannot believe people believe in religion and after life or god or satan> Its just a METAPHOR for this world we have and we exist in corrupt hell. Human mind is beyond religion...so why is most of our spicies still so simple to buy into these fairy tales. Those who hold speeches, write books that tell you how to live and preach are the sickest and most corrupt.
@michael hall this account is shared. If you read the about. I used it 7 times making comments and haven't uploaded a video. Thats my co workers , its a company in team account 99% of videos are private. The cat ones and the games are not. This has been established many times to many forums asking about KJP. Morals.
@onmy computer2020gal thanks. I hope so. I was relgious, i studied all forms of it. My main point got.more skewed and you kind of got it. In a nutshell. You can loose it all in a day. Faith helps, and its okay bot to have it in the "socially accept way" i know more people aho go to church that we are horrible people than people who just do the right thing and help others if they have the means. At the end of the day we all will be gone , passed on . Keep your ideology and belifes strong. But NEVER let it effect hos you are morally. Or treat others. Thank you. Your comment made me tear up
@Gaming for fun i dont respect what doesnt exist, i don't direspect it either. I respect the fact that relgious belifes had a major impact on the world we live in. Good or bad. The main point. To stop a relgious back and forth cause its like gun rights in the states. Its a debate that wont end with everyone happy.
I respect people who are good. Going to Church praying isnt bad. But if you do that and then curb stomp Joey for oweing a schlock a few hundred grand you.bet on a horse then praying "sorry, I'll do my ten hail Marys" after confession for what i did. Doesnt make that man good. I am. Very very not well sorry. Typing is next to impossible with my cancer spreading after 1 month from total.remission. Be well. Do whats right. Much love to Human's
Idle Hour People who go through all that don't sit on YouTube writing comments about it and uploading PS4 gameplay vids lol. What was your daughters name? Or like one piece of evidence that any of that happened? lol
You know how many innocent people have had the death sentence? This was a lawyer that showed exactly how all cases need to be treated if you don't have concrete evidence your wasting time and resources. I mean it's clear to me she did it but you can't allow socialism to dictate individualized results.
@Twizted "I mean it's clear to me she did it" what? she killed her kid because she wanted to party, again. EVEN THOUGH HER PARENTS WERE WILLING TO TAKE THE KID!!!
@Twizted wait what does socialism have to do with this besides provide the taxpayer funded state prosecution jury judge cops courthouse and literally everything except the private defense attorney
@Obamain POtin Every defendant, in criminal trials, is presumed innocent until proven guilty. If the state does not prove, above and beyond every reasonable doubt, that the defendant is guilty, then the jury is supposed to give a not guilty verdict.
I do not think the state proved guilt (beyond every reasonable doubt) in this case.
@matteo cusumano Personally I think she's responsible in some way. I believe she accidentally overdosed and she hid the body. But it's innocent till proven guilty in a court of law and they couldn't prove that. And honestly its a great example of how our legal system works and it's a good thing she wasn't jailed. Because they couldn't prove she did if she got jailed that means were jailing people based on just how a jury feels and not with actual evidence and that's bad. Better one guilty person walks than 100 innocent people get jailed.
I read an article about her getting into a fight with another woman over a boyfriend. Casey got water spilled on her lap and called the cops wanting it on record. I could be remembering it wrong though.
That's the huge problem when a jury (random people) gives a verdict instead of a judge. Casey, O J Simpson and so on. I really hope they will change this trial approach.
@Gbasire YTP let's stop pretending and be adults. Everyone here knows if she was a single black mother this would have been a open and shut case. Please let's just stop pretending.
Why did they not mention the car’s odor. Damn they found the family car SMEALING, why no fingerprints? Were taken or anything like that. And her boyfriend? I think the investigators just did a shitty job.
Lmao, I was even gonna mention this case as much alike O.J Simpson’ s case. And surprise surprise, she actually dates someone related to that case nowdays. It just feels stupid how the media and their Voltaires fucks everything up, in any case where a child gets hurt the parents would at least be blamed for mistreatment. There’s a huge difference between drowning and suffocating, soooo much stuff autopsy could have pointed out...
she was not found guilty. millions of dollars total were wasted on this case, tons of hours spent by many experts and she was not found guilty. still we have our youtube experts who are so smart and they know better xD you're as silly as people sending death threats to her family
This is why I dropped out of law school, I would have lost my mind had I been in the prosecutor's place. They couldn't have got her on even obstruction of justice? Honestly how was the presence of generous amounts of duct tape overlooked? You don't tape the face of a drowning victim. That is reserved for the living. Murder of the first degree obviously.
@Sam Taaghol I think he meant it maybe the evidence wasn't hundred percent there was doubt and that's just how it works. And yeah I can't stand socialists but this has nothing to do with economic system LOL
She is definitely guilty unfortunately circumstantial evidence isn't enough to convict, there is no solid concrete evidence that she killed her kid. DNA, fingerprints, or otherwise.
This is by far one of the most frustrating cases I've ever heard of. There is so much circumstantial evidence in this case but there wasn't a smoking gun.
We can only hope karma will get her, since the court didn't.
Casey showing no remorse toward her own child's loss is already a big red flag right there. And what kind of parents would leave their own kids for more than A DAY? I would def call 9-1-1 emergency right away if I haven't seen my child for more than an hour at home. I'm speechless. Damn lady.
Any mother would turn into a grieving wreck upon disappearance her child. This mother didn’t and in my opinion it speaks volumes. It’s like she lost a handbag.
@The PJ Experience Caylee stopped being 'HER' baby the moment she was birthed into the world. At THAT moment, Caylee became a human being with the right to live.
Dude, so many people know her face. She will never live a normal life after killing her daughter and getting away with it. She will never forget what she did; no matter how much she tries to forget.
@James Herer I actually ran into her down by Hanson's Shoe Repair, which she's banned from btw, and people were heckling her and it made my day. Stay classy Orlando.
@frank castle that can go both ways really, in this oh so wonderful country of ours you can be convicted, sent to jail, then later found innocent and stay in jail.
@Nick Maxwell yup shes just out and about. Partying like nothing happened. I thought for sure someone at a bar would have at least kicked her ass by now
I read up on this case the jury did not want to really give her the not guilty but the evidence was not enough to convict her so I don’t blame anyone but the system
@Israel Centeno the defense basically drilled into them "pics or it didn't happen" without saying it. Without something showing her in action there will always be room for doubt, no matter how small. I don't think he ever mentioned "beyond REASONABLE doubt". He only said "any doubt". I feel like there was definitely enough evidence to convict. Looks up suffocation in the morning, leaves in the afternoon, child found with tape over breathing holes, death ruled homicide, video shows Caylee missing that evening from video store, defense admits she was dead that day by drowning in family pool...but they never returned home for that to be possible, car was impounded for unknown reason (to us at least) and trunk smelled of decomposing body, her ENTIRE story is fabricated.
@A W Only 2 reasons the jury acquiitted, given the evidence. First, Cindy Anthony ended up trying to help Casey when Cindy testified. She claimed SHE had been doing computer searches on chloroform ("I meant chlorophyll") and THEN let her daughter's lawyer imply that her husband George could have accidentally let Caley drown AND OR that he sexually molested Casey. That was Unforgivably low behavior on Casey's part (and irrelevant!) It was terrible judgement and disloyalty on Cindy's part. I don't know how George Anthony stayed with his wife, but reportedly he does not speak to Casey.
The only other reason I can think of for acquittal is because the jury wasn't intelligent enough to make logical inferences, and got confused by the BS of the defense attorney Jose Baez (a terrible trial lawyer who stumbled and fell into an acquittal and accepted sex from Casey as payment for services).
Then the media saw him as an expert and he was on every network until his true colors showed.
The thing is where is the forensic evidence any cctv evidence witness of her going to or from where the body was found etc???
Anyone in the right mind knows she did it, if you have kids you will no if they are missing for more than 20 min your going out ur mind trying to find then thinking the worst, never mind them missing for weeks.
She's as guilty as OJ and they both walked free. What a travesty of justice. One way or another they will pay for their atrocities. May they burn & rot in hell for all eternity.
If it makes you feel better she probably can’t get a job anywhere, people would see her name and immediately know who she is. In the US that means a very torturous and agonizing life
@Denise Pleines Justice extends above law. I'm not planning to attack her physically BUUUT I would gladly tell her how terrible she is to her face and in person and I'd love a hate mob to realize she's still out there and take things into their own hands. Eye for an eye.
@xZanexX missing...for 30 DAYS!!!! There are many reasons why I think she is guilty. But that one screams she didn't give a shit, seems like nobody gave a shit Like, say, law enforcement...
Very good find. Wish Mr Criminal Psychology found it and pointed it out, but there are SO many little things in these and he pointed out 99.99% of them anyways so not trying to throw shade on him. One of the best Youtube channels. Should be archived for the next 300 years.
Their parents absolutely knew. Didn't want to lose their daughter on top of their granddaughter. It's despicable and poor Caylee never received justice.
"I can't even put into words how glad I am that she's had both of you."
This does not imply that she no longer has both of them, nor that she is dead. That's not what "she has had" means. For example I could say that Brad Pitt has had great success in films, but that doesn't imply his success is over.
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@Shift8YawnsShift8 - Edited-. Watched that bit a few times and without the favour of retrospect, it could be construde as being genuine. I agree with what you said. On the other hand she could've realised midway through the first "she's had both of you" that she thinks the immediate next bit to add on, but on the whole what you said could be argued, correct.
John C —— When you raise an absolute pathological liar you know at the point when she gets pregnant that even in the very best case the granddaughter will have live a shit life because of her absent mother. Actually, I’m wrong. You know, not because she is a pathological liar, but because she only seems to care about her own joy in life and is an irresponsible piece of shit without much empathy for others. Not trying to say she is a monster; I am sure her own upbringing and/or genes, environment etc. resulted in her being like this.
@ko sco Nah... something like that would never be admissible as evidence of anything, really. It's the kind of thing we as individuals certainly use a lot, and I'd say you "know it when you see it", but it's also impossible to tell for certain how obvious such a reaction as that from her mom would be if not for us already knowing the outcome to this entire case ahead of time. We see a reaction like that and we superimpose what we already know and draw the conclusion that her mom knowingly came to a realization that matches what we all know they're gonna conclusively find out soon enough. And while I have no doubt that, even if we DIDN'T know the outcome to this case already, many people, perhaps even the majority of us, might very well reach the same conclusion about her mom's reaction...
...but in the end, it's just not empirical in any sense. Since all anyone can do is GUESS what's going on in her mom's head when she starts crying - even if her mom, say, took the stand against Casey and admitted as much that at that moment she "knew" what her daughter's Freudian slip truly meant, even a defense attorney whose entire law education consisted of watching reruns of Matlock and Harvey Birdman while playing Phoenix Wright games on his DS would call out "Objection!!" (lol especially if he played Phoenix Wright games :P) due to such a claim being speculative and innuendo.
Realistically, even if Casey was 100% honest all the way and this actually HAD BEEN just a case of a missing little girl with a legitimately worried-sick mother instead of the sociopath trying for an Oscar we see here, it's still COMPLETELY feasible that, under all the stress and exhaustion and panic of her body being in a sub-variety of fight-or-flight for days to weeks on at a time, she STILL could've misspoken and worded her sentence in such an unsettling way - - both Casey's instance, as well as the hypothetical one I just described, are caused by the same overall symptom: a lack of forethought being put into what was being said - the difference is just what's causing that lack of forethought... one is due to true emotional exhaustion over being in a state of constant terror and anxiety from trying to find a missing child, while the other is due to trying (and failing) to simultaneously juggle multiple lesser lies meant to cover up one REALLY GARGANTUAN lie while also trying to act afraid and anxious over finding her daughter.
The latter task in particular, Casey is finding it especially hard to convincingly pull off since in the back of her mind she KNOWS all there is to find is something she doesn't want anyone to see, and doesn't wanna see or think about ever again, herself.
Frankly, I think Casey knows good and well that her goose is cooked and that she's on borrowed time, here... she can't be stupid enough to ACTUALLY still think at this point that this is all just gonna "go away" - in fact, I'd even bet that the news of her daughter's face being featured on the cover of People even sent her into a bit of a mental tailspin of panic, because then there's NO CHANCE IN HELL of her getting outta this without having to either come clean to everyone (the favorable option, if she wants to appear to have ANY semblance of a heart or spine left...), or be ruthlessly exposed in front of the entire goddamn NATION as an awful, heartless mother and pathologically lying, selfish bottom-feeding worm of a human being..
"Glad I am that she's had both of you," then kind of aggressively reassures "AND that she still HAS both of you." It's like she slipped up forsure. I'm enjoying your replies guys. Shift8, you can say that. But this one is a weird one. It could mean different things to different people. We could say she was nervous, tired, emotionally exhausted. Yet she doesn't show much emotion towards her daughter's murder. Other people show more emotion than her, which leads me to believe in this little moment, she slipped up with the had and has. Maybe if she was a bit worried about Caylee instead of herself, she could've passed off as genuine. Straight psychopath
@ko sco I agree, and I do think she added that next sentence because it could be misconstrued. Of course, her not talking about her daughter in the past tense doesn't mean anything. The narrator was right to not point it out as a smoking gun.
The parents knew right from when they found the car and just hoping it wasn't true. In the first phone call she was mad at her mum that the only reason she was arrested was because of her checking up on her story. Guess that behaviour from her mum would've been a break away from how their relationship works...she says her story and they just accept it.
“Caylee’s been so lucky... Caylee is so lucky” and “had” to “has”... she does it twice. I’m sure the parents caught that. They were fishing for information.
@Shift8YawnsShift8 verb
past tense: had; past participle: had
used with a past participle to form the perfect, pluperfect, and future perfect tenses, and the conditional mood. You are using an incorrect comparison. Your example says describes past tense of film. It is a finite period. It does not mean that Brad Pitt has success in future films.
It's incredible how long Casey was able to keep the present tense and syntax up as long as she did. Hardened criminals who are used to police interrogations have difficulty doing that.
@Jason Friendthe phrase "she has had" colloquially does not mean the same as "she had". They are categorically different. "she has had" implies a certain condition could be over or ongoing, but only references it occuring in the past. It's the condition ending, not the existence of the subject. Meanwhile, "she had" implies the subject of the sentence now ceases to exist.
She has had X but now condition X has an unknown future. She had X but now she is no longer.
The correction to "still has" in the next sentence is actually more telling and damming IMO. It's an over compensation.
Boy I'm going to have a lot of edits to this comment... but at 15:00 "Is there any reason why the nanny would take caylee?"
"Just that she talked about how good of a daughter she was and how much she loved her"
Had she not made up the other lies about juliette who does not exist.... that would have been a cold, and very fitting statement to take the heat off of herself... just chilling listening to that though process
@Arphemius She still believes her. Watch the last interview that George and Cindy did. Still defending her. George knows what his daughter is. He says nothing will ever change as far as his feelings towards her until she tells the truth about what happened to Caylee.
@JustTrollinAlong Yep. He knows as does George that she killed her daughter. Cindy, on the other hand, is in denial still. Some things just can't be ignored and all the lies that Casey told should be really obvious to her. I know as a mother you don't want to believe that your child could do something so disgusting but her actions prove a different story
@sanchez831.x4 I don't believe for a minute that her father molested her. Out of the million lies Casey told, you believe that one? She was in a fight for her life at that trial. It was a death penalty case. Her and her skilled attorney were desperate. No way I don't believe he did
@Hi Well whatever you want to call it she had gotten pretty good at manipulating her way through life and getting away with her lies. Her parents aren't the only ones who fell for her stories. People that are habitual liars get pretty good at lying.
As a couple others pointed out, that's not past tense. It's present perfect, indicating something that started in the past, but continues into the present
Well... what if Casey is ACTUALLY innocent? Then she has lost years of her life in prison without crime, followed by being condemned by a part of society (just look at the comment section here) for being a murderous psychopath, despite being innocent.
That must be heart-breaking.
(of course, if she IS guilty, then all the condemnation she gets is 100% justified)
The way she has the investigator on the ropes and in defensive mode. Not sure I’ve ever seen that before in the 1,000’s of hours if interrogations I’ve watched. She’s an absolute pathological liar.
She deadass said that she met the "nanny" through Jeffree and that she watched his son when the man openly admitted on the stand that he doesn't even have kids. How does that not instantly just trash any of her credibility? She should have fried.
There was more in play that what I am going to say - but basically, no one wants to believe that a woman could do something so horrible. If a man, a father, was accused and did and said what Anthony did, there would be ZERO sympathy for him. He would have received the death penalty for sure. We have a massive problem in the West with not holding women accountable.
@June Mooney I don’t know much about these things but if the prosecutor got him up there as a witness he should know the facts and is simply just presenting them to the jury/judge, right?
@Adam Estrada isn’t the whole point that it’s 90% tell you then it’s within reasonable doubt that she didn’t do it? I think she technically could’ve gotten away with the 1st Degree because you have to prove intent. But with the manslaughter she surely should’ve been guilty based off of evidence alone.
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Ahmed W2021-05-31 04:27:05 (edited 2021-05-31 04:30:46 )
Regardless the defendant's lawyer spun all the lies she told as for her too look like she was covering up an accident that happened which she was embarrassed to reveal. Which in turn makes sense to the jury because even though evidence was revealed nothing can be tied to her daughter being murdered by her. Only thing left for the defendant was to disregard her motive which was weakly supported by her bad character and choices in life . Which can easily be dissemed as opionated observations. This is an obserdly easy case for the lawyers people getaway with way worse situations. And all they had to do was prove the case was motivated by emtions against the defendant because of lack of emtions she showed toward her daughter being missing or dead. The Funny thing is if something is clearly obvious the court system will not be able to conclude unless there are facts. There where details that where missing and the defendants team capitalized on that.
@Adam Estrada By conjecture sure. But it's all he said she said. He could have told her about his friend who was a child sitter as part of a ploy to help his friend kidnap another person's child. It's even getting to the point where video evidence isn't admissable in court due to the ease of access regarding video editing programs or even deep fakes.
I know, right??? The way JCS presents this here, is perfect. He tells enough of her story to get us familiar, the pauses with the "_____, does not exist." Regarding a few people. Even the 911 call when Casey got on the phone. Baez should be disbarred and possibly charged. And Casey walking free is beyond infuriating.
@JH B Especially when they murder theyre daughters it’s actually mind boggling and how parents can just sit there and believe even though everything they heard was a complete lie, I’m not sure if the whereabouts of the little girl were given as I was to upset to sit through this and watch her lie through her teeth and put on this fake innocent persona over the extremely clear heartless and deceiving one. The mother herself even said it smelt like a dead body in the car and told her literally the same exact lies she told the police this is truly such an infuriating hour and minutes so much so I couldn’t even sit through it just skipped to the end for the usual happy endings on this channel but this is very upsetting.
@Ahmed W her life choices were in serious conflict though. As a parent, there is no more partying. It was blatantly obvious what was going thru her head if you are a parent. I think it's a sign of the times. 8/10 jury was probably not a parent and wouldn't have understood what was going thru her head.
@Shy RoseI noticed that too. I mean at this point, what she’s doing is feeding them with positive attributes so not to question her more of her daughter’s whereabout but she slipped when she said that her daughter was lucky and repeatedly said the same thing but a correction. She’s a monster.
@June Mooney would have been really easy to find that out just by record checking (i.e. birth records, claim of children on their tax refunds, investigation of house for a childs room/ pictures + more
In 2019, there was a follow up interview with Casey Anthony and she said she still "has no idea" what happened. That just shoots her defense all to pieces and shows she's full of shit, because if I'm not mistaken, Baez's whole argument was that she knew her daughter drowned and tried to cover it up? So which is it? Does she not know what happened or did she know her daughter accidentally drowned?
Because the jury got this one wrong sometimes jurors want to believe the alleged reasonable doubt which sounded even more bizarre and had no evidence to back it up yet they still went with that
Who puts duct tape on a dead child's mouth and nose and throw in swamp? If she was trying to hide the fact that girl died accidentally, why'd she do that? Also, isn't misleading a murder investigation intently is an offense of any kind? And what up with the whole child abuse twist in court? She was with police, she was interrogated multiple times and she never brought up anything related to that? Also,even if whole she was abused in childhood was taken in, how come lying with fear in childhood when being abused compares with a mother intently lying about her child's death and laughing at officers on recording? If anything, she'd probably be more protective of her child. I don't see any logic behind jury's thoughts about it.
@EkG It's not that uncommon of a thing. A lot of children die due to being unsupervised and are then hidden due to fear of ramifications, they couldn't tie her directly to the cause of death. Tampering with a body sure, but that wasn't what they attempted to charge her with. If they had found the body much earlier and found evidence for cause of death being suffocation then maybe.
Nobody gets away with anything! Sooner or later she will pay.
I do not feel sorry for her parents because they raised her.
I have a daughter and I know my girl's every move which of course she hates. Casey's parents should have corrected their daughter's behaviour, much, much earlier because they would have had some insight.
My daughter is now twenty-five and a computer programmer and very successful. If I had been a slack single mother - she would not have the achievements that she has.
It would have totally destroyed me to find that my child had deliberately and purposefully harmed someone. Who wants that on their conscience, forever?
Someone was either paid a lot of money, or the human race is stupider than I thought we already were. Wow. To think, I thought our race couldn't surprise me anymore with our stupidness. Her lawyer seems like he'd pay a lot to get his way. He just gives me those vibes. RIP Caylee. You were way too young.
So your child accidentally drowns- and you decide to hide the body- ok but please tell me what was going on in your mind when you decided to put duct tape on their mouth and nose afterwards?!?! It's such a menacing action- especially supposing the child drowned! Only a psycho would tape up their kids face. No rational explanation for that except she was killed using duct tape.
She's so guilty it makes me sick she wasn't convicted.
I can’t stand that woman and I can’t even finish watching this video bc of the fact that the jurors had the gall to find this narcissistic monster NOT GUILTY! 😡🤯😭😭! No justice for CAYLEE🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️😭🌸🌸❤️🔥🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I don't know why this case is super hard for me to watch maybe it's because I have a daughter myself and just seeing a mom do what she did to me all know what she did it's just absolutely disgusting. And in the call that her mom need to 911 or the grandma excuse me the grandma says that the Casey Anthony admitted that the babysitter stole her like that sounds like the biggest lie ..I can't..how she is walking free I don't get
so disturbing her giggling in the interrogation room with the investigator as if shes just casually flirting with some man in a bar.
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Sofia Katsoulis2022-04-10 01:54:18 (edited 2022-04-10 01:54:45 )
And that is one grand example of why the death penalty is wrong. That woman should be rotting in prison for killing her 2yearold but other people, that are not cold blooded murderers, that have feelings and understanding of their responsibility, couldn't send her to death because they weren't absolutely, 100% sure. If the death penalty was off, she would have been found guilty.
The fact that Cindy still acts like she believes Casey and supports her is ALMOST as flabbergasting as the verdict. I blame her just as much as Casey. That’s where Casey learned her pathological lying from. They are both disgusting.
Everytime Casey mentioned the babysitter, I just thought of the South Park episode where a bunch of people who killed their kids got together against "some puertorican guy"
It's so ridiculous that a pretty little white girl would get away with such a obvious crime and if anybody else on the planet did anything near what she did they would be in prison for life
I feel absolutely fucking terrible for her family. Casey has no remorse. Her parents, her brother, her damn best friend cares more then she ever will. Caylee would’ve been 15 now.
Her parents raised her, though, and they had been enabling her lying, selfish behavior from day one. They greatly contributed to how her personality turned out, when they did shit like throwing her a graduation party to conceal the fact that she skipped school and didn't graduate.
Obviously her parents didn't kill Caylee, but they sure as hell aren't innocent angels who did nothing to contribute to Casey turning out to be a monster. They most likely let her grow up living in a bubble where consequences were non-existent and lying had you get away with murder. That's how she turned out to be someone who's devoid of any responsibility and concern for others and will literally walk over dead bodies in the pursuit of her own selfish pleasure (I.e. her party girl lifestyle).
You must not be very familiar with this case. Her parents are enablers, so much so that her father basically accepted a defense that he sexually assaulted his daughter to deflect so she wouldnt be convicted of murder. I dont feel one bit of sympathy for her family. They created that monster. There was one victim in this case, and she was dead before any of this happened.
the worst part about this is that i don't think all of this had any effect on Casey. it was just another one of her eloborate lies that she got away with and now she is free to do what she wants.
Just want to say in 19 hours this comm was here it got 1.6k likes, meaning at least 1.6k people saw this video in the last 19 hours for a video posted 9 months ago
@Kyoyeou I assume everyone like me is being recommended this guys channel and this video has to be one of the most bizarre. Caylee should be the main topic of this whole thing not the spineless cruel mother. Also her family is ridiculous too. So nothing more except even after over a decade prayers for Caylee Anthony this was tragic and horrible.
@Tony Sopranos busted phone they were actually told to refrain from showing any emotion about the event, because they were the grand parents, but also witnesses they were given a pass into the courtroom with the conditions they would be removed if they acted out, that’s why they lack emotion when they sentenced her.
Man if my kid was missing and I was facing jailtime for it. I would worry more about myself. Survival of the fittest kid we gotta scrap for our own. But for real though Casey Anothony legit got off on killing her kid and that is not right. We have not even tried to make the system better.
Well to be fair about this whole mess the lawyer has a point. Don't get me wrong, the fact that they painted the father as an abuser is an absolute disgrace, BUT they didn't have any proof that she killed her child.
Yeah the whole story does look pretty bad for her and it's more than reasonable to assume that she did it, but we still have to prrof someones guilt. If we had to proof that someone is innocent we can go back to the middle ages since that's more like it
It seems that her mother quite possibly committing perjury got her off. She testified to making those searches on child suffocation etc on the home PC... while she was also at work. Some feat.
Just goes to see, not everyone has to pay for murder. Even in beginning of this video you could see that ex-cop grand father suspected the outcome. Just my two opinion.
Very charismatic defense attorney. I don't understand how she had the funds to get him, or if it was just dumb luck at getting somebody incredible before their career took off.
@Cloud Strike Yeah because the japanese justice system practies a guilty until proven innocent system. With an over 99% conviction rate basically everyone who gets tried is found to be guilty.
@Mary Poppins well, thing is, when you say evidence, you mean circumstantial evidence, and a very incoherent declaration from her (that only proved she lied, but not that she did it). We all get the strong feeling she did it, that's clear, but to prove it before the law? well, you would need proof that it was her who asphyxiated and dropped kaylee at the swamp; and you are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around, so a strong gut feeling or common sense isn't enough in a court (and it shouldn't, even if it means this might happen).
Not unbelievable, a direct and inevitable consequence of the practice of jury trial. When all you have to do is manipulate a bunch of laypeople with no knowledge or understanding of the legal system, or experience on how to detect lies and attempts of manipulation, the side whose lawyer is the better manipulator wins. That's why murderers who would never be let off the hook by professionals walk free, and why innocent people are convicted with no evidence, it all comes down to whose lawyer lies better
@Crazy Mai circumstantial evidence is evidence. Which would mean common sense is strong enough in court because the jury is allowed to use that when deliberating. So this jury really failed..
Viewers , like me could undoubtedly say Casey killed her daughter to have her worldy freedom... She is guilty... May Caylee be in heaven now with God Almighty..
This has be to be one of the biggest fuck ups in criminal justice history. How the prosecution failed to secure a guilty verdict with the overwhelming evidence against her is beyond comprehension.
I still don’t understand how the hell they let this woman walk knowing all the lies she told and her partying while her daughter was missing for 31 days. And I feel sorry for her parents. This is sick.
Ach... that hurts... I wish I hadn't seen that now... they couldn't convict her? Why, because her lawyer wasn't slick? The evidence was pretty clear to me... sigh...
I don't think this was the parents fault, her solicitor could only go off what she told him and stuff so that's not on him either. How this woman wasn't found guilty I don't know but I don't think the jury knew which way to go with her either
For anyone who is wondering why there is no comment.
YouTube did a lot unfair with this account, some videos were taken down. But some are back now and there is no prior comment, a warning is added that says "The following content may contain suicide or self-harm topics." then you have to proceed to watch it.
according to twitter reactions apparently JCS is done with YouTube bc of such issues. another channer named J C S was made and a few videos are uploaded there as well.
Her parents deserved a better child. They are such good role models and supporters, my god it's saddening that they were rewarded with this disgrace of a human to call their child...
That case took up most of my time in elementary school, from around when i came to America in 08 to like when i was going to middle school Central Florida News 13 over and over again
this one is also on you Florida, but this one is rlly rlly rllly hard...like even if you somehow thought she didn't kill her with premeditation....as sure as hell there was a big child neglevt case for at least 20 years, but scott free (okay, lied to law). Hellish to think that kind of ppl and brain structure defines your "death row" chamber situation if you are unlucky enough.
She was luckily because she asked for her lawyer. If she hadn't the detectives would have had more to work with. However IF you are ever arrested follow her lead.
You know what's wild? I believe the tale that her father abused her in that manner. If you look at people who lack empathy to the degree that they can deliberately kill other human beings, you will almost always turn over rocks like that.
The only time Casey cries is when she feels genuinely hurt or connected to something. She cried when her attorney depicted her childhood.
In addition, one of my best friends growing up was a pathological liar. It turns out she was being abused by a foster child that had stayed with them for some time.
But that's the only thing about Casey I'll believe: that she was sexually abused. Everything else is BS, and I cannot actually accept that she was allowed to walk away, especially with internet searches about suffocation, combined with the duct tape over Caylee's mouth....
Then again, plenty of people have absolutely nightmarish childhoods and go on to be awesome, amazing people. It says a lot about her that she would use that in trial to induce pity in the jury.
Ah. The tell tale signs of a person who was injured as a child, was rewarded to lie, lives in her head and parties to cope. Pressure in college. She refuses and/or was never able to be held accountable. Clearly upset she was no longer the center of daddy's attention anymore. Probably had her buddy help her and he bailed. 🤣 At least Caylee doesnt have to go through that icky generational nabbing and blame her actions on that, too. Yikes. Rest in peace, child. 🦋😇🦋 Find peace Casey. 🤯
FINALLY. Of all the disturbing things about Casey, that one was so absolutely glaring and, to me, guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. She was just showing some real emotion when her parents let her know they still loved her, and she just flatlined when she actually saw the numbers of people on the shirt. (Or perhaps just knowing the nation was looking, and that gave her a feeling of dread. Personally, I felt like in that moment it was a mix of a feeling of dread, and for whatever reason, a sort of resentment upon either seeing her daughter's face in the print, or upon seeing the support for the daughter she so clearly did not love. Hated enough to kill, dump in a trunk, then dump in a swamp. I don't know why but that's exactly where her reaction took my mind to.)
I almost can't even believe all the more common ones that are pointed out, at least in contrast to this one. It was the one that gave my gut a dreadful feeling. That and that blue ass mug shot of her way later.
@The emo user i think it's normal a father calling his daughter "gorgeous" that's not sus, i mean my father always called me "gorgeous" and he isn't a rapist too.
21:32 : THE FUCKING FACT THAT SHE WAS MORE UPSET THAT HER MOTHER WAS ON THE NEWS AND GOT MORE ATTENTION THAN HER THEN HER DAUGHTER GETTING KIDNAPPED REALLY PISSES ME OFF.
Why did she have the child in the first place? Why? Why raise a child for 2 years just to kill her? If you want to have a free life without any responsibility (which is totally understandable at the age of only 22) don't become a parent. And if you couldn't do anything about preventing it or aborting the pregnancy at the earliest stages - give the child up for adoption. It's fucked up but by a magnitude better than friggin killing a 2 year old in cold blood!!
James Benz2021-06-01 22:41:00 (edited 2021-06-01 22:43:05 )
Our justice system doesn't work like that. From the outside Casey strikes me as a disgusting psychopath, but if the prosecution and defense do their best and a jury of your peers find you not guilty then unfortunately that is the way it is. "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer" -Ben Franklin Hopefully she gets what's coming to her.
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Daniel R.2021-06-01 23:33:21 (edited 2021-06-02 07:42:39 )
@James Benz Yeah, but in the end people , who are not professionals, are deciding about the fate of defendants. Maybe a judge would have come to the same verdict, but you could be more certain about the verdict being correct, because these are professionals, who are trained to separate objective evidence from emotional arguments and decide what beyond reasonable doubt means.
@James Benz must say in this summary its damning against her. A month without calling in missing kid after a fake babysitter that doesn't exist abducts her kid. After researching how to kill someone, then her kids found in her own trunk.
I can't believe there's people defending her innocence, acting like a murderer didn't just win the case. A conman just conned a jury of "dummies", that's what happend.
An acquittal doesn’t necessarily mean you didn’t do it. Not Guilty means Not Proven. It doesn’t mean the jury found her innocent. Everyone knows she did it, but in a court setting the evidence has to be strong and the jury has strict rules to follow.
Edit: And unfortunately she can’t be tried again due to double jeopardy, even for the lesser charge of involuntary manslaughter. The state messed this one up(overconfidence imo)
@Chaps Shepperson obviously you weren’t paying attention. The child wasn’t found in her car. She was found in a swamp weeks after the first month of missing.
@Juice no, unfortunately the legal system worked correctly. The prosecution and cops could not provide enough evidence to prove “beyond all reasonable doubt”.
@Benjai involuntary*(it’s a lesser charge). She was found “not guilty” of first-degree murder. I wish they could redo the case(like everyone else), that’s what I’m getting at, but it can never happen.
WE DEMAND A RETRIAL WITH A DIFFERENT JURY, OTHERWISE CAN EVERY SERIAL KILLER IN AMERICA STOP KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AND GO AFTER HER AND OTHERS LIKE HER PLEASE..
2008 was a crazy year Amanda Knox, Casey Anthony and Jodie Arias all happened in 2008 everyone was clued to all three cases and Casey Anthony was found not guilty and so was Amanda Knox and Jodie Arias is in prison for the murder of Travis Alexander. All three cases in 2008
ThatChapter is very good, although he uses shorter clips and doesn't really do the analysis that JCS does. His upload schedule is very consistent though, which I definitely appreciate.
I found this channel searching for videos about the pathology of Jussie Smollett. Very impressed, I clicked on the series for the family annihilator Chris Watts. I've been in love with JCS ever since.
@Hannah Dimitrov I've seen some of her content.. It seems like more traditional commentary rather than breaking down the psychology of the people involved. She seems pretty popular though so I should probably give her stuff another shot.
@samantha sandoval kendall rae is mediocre. I prefer Danelle Hallan or Stephanie Harlowe when it comes to true crime, and they do mostly cold cases or somewhat older cases, and for current stuff I like Linda on Its A Crime and she's growing super fast. In just a matter of a few months she gained 100k subs. Another one is WTAF...a small channel. None of those channels are exactly like JCS though. They are reporting the stories but don't go into the psychology aspect of things.
@Matt His Patron is release early content that goes on YouTube. He does Q&A that he doesn't release publicly. He has his merch and he comments on videos. You can direct message him to make suggestions for new videos.
Check out Leader One Studios this guy pulls no punches in his content and gets the criminals and situations a graphic detail. Hes quickly becoming my favorite content creator on YT. Leader One Studios
Smudge she breaks down everything. She researches the parents and home life. Sometimes she goes as far back as grandparents, all so we get a full picture of the murderer. She’s amazing. Highly recommend
A to Z check out the JCS Patreon. It is a gold mine! So much good content. It’s a buck a month ( or more if you want). Jim recently said he’s not going to upload to Patreon for the foreseeable future but there is enough in there to be worth your $$ for a while.
@Ellen For the psychological aspect, I recommend checking out Derek van Scheik. His channel is a bit more short-form, but still long-form compared to many YouTubers. He analyzes video clips, many of them true crime interviews etc. And looks for inconsistencies in body language, much in the same way Jim analyzes interrogations.
If anyone has other suggestions for channels like these, I would love to hear them. I seriously need more of it in my life!
@samantha sandoval I was just going to mention her. Outside of her, I watch no other true crime channels but I'm trying to find another similar to hers.
This is because he is based in psychology and psychological analysis. He can take people’s brain out and untangle it like a knot. He is empathic and logical. I picked this up within 5 minutes.
That's true. 💥On other channels, everyone else drones on, reading articles already written. 💥And make sophomoric jokes about tragedy. 💥For clicks. 💥For 💸. 💥And they have the nerve & lack of self awareness to comment on sociopathy.
@Young Che For me a distant 2nd place is ThatChapter. Mike over there is actually a quite talented storyteller and he keeps it interesting, but as far as analysis, JCS takes the cake.
It's sad that this seemingly simple formula for strong videos is ignored by most content creators. Gotta make that ad revenue. Who tf cares about your legacy or adding to the world.
i dont get what happened so did she kill her daughter or not is she in prison or is she free and why are casyes parents bad i thought they were against casey and wanted to find their grand daughter and was it true was the lawyer said Casey was molested by her father at 8 was he defending her or against her im so confused
She could have just given Caylee to her parents and they would have taken her gladly. Like wtf.
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The Dude Abides2022-05-18 18:48:36 (edited 2022-05-18 18:49:16 )
How in the hell did she not get prosecuted for this? She's got to be the worst and most obvious liar I've ever seen and yet she somehow skates. The justice system for ya.
Wonder is she figured since had the baby, also has the right to get rid of her? It seems to me she missed the freedom of going out, partying ect and the kid was stopping that from happening.
She Googled "foolproof suffocation" an hour or so before the girl died. It doesn't get any more definitive than that. The fact that she got away with this is a disgrace.
Unfortunately still can’t be used as full proof evidence to link her to the murder of her daughter. The argument would have been so has 40 million other people have searched for “ how to kill someone “ it’s in the top 100 searches on google
@Music Is My Passion "How to kill someone" is a pretty non-specific though. She specifically search for ways to suffocate someone - only to then have her daughter die by suffocation within an hour or two based on the estimated time of death. She was also the only one at that time of day which had access to the computer. Full proof? I guess that depends on how you look at it - in my book though, there's no doubt after hearing something like that.
@Cim I'm not saying that she isn't guilty. But searching for "how to suffocate someone" online can mean a million other things and the mother's defence attorney would have used that. the prosecution would have needed hard evidence that would have linked her directly to her daughters death, dna evidence, weapons used and a motive. In addition to those things then searching online for "how to suffocate someone" could have been used as a back up. The smallest mistake or error would have collapsed the entire case. Maybe if they pushed for manslaughter they might have reached a guilty verdict
@Dana White's double chin And if you look on my channel you can see a video of waitrose managers that were clearly sexually abusing and harassing young girls at waitrose right? waitrose's head office excuse is that they were just having "fun" and the manager was just nodding his head and you don't actually see him doing anything. It's easy to miss direct something that is clearly in-front of you as long as it can be interpreted and perceived as something different.
I know. It's almost comedic how obviously damning those searches were. What galled me the most, though, was her lawyers' smugness after the trial. They were actually proud of getting a child murderer acquitted.
She wrote in diary she hasn't been this happy in a long time, made the right choice etc and partied the entire time daughter was "missing". Even with defenders case about how she "supressed feelings by lying" the diary would certainly prove otherwise. She was fricking happy the daughter was gone what other proof is needed it's literaly there, in black and white, a confession that she wasn't sad in the least! With so many clues and contradictions put together they don't even need 100% proof or a confession that states "yes me, Casey murdered my daughter" so the "not enough proof" is bs honestly.
Music Is My Passion A million other things like what? 'how to suffocate someone' is an incredibly specific search, especially when your own child ends up that way within hours of you Googling it. Waiting a whole month to report a child missing and the smell of a dead body in the car should have given it away.
@Music Is My Passion They literally were able to prove that Casey was the only adult in the house when that was searched on the computer. By simple logic, you couldn't have killed someone thousands of miles away, but she could sure kill someone under the same roof. Awfully interesting don't you think? 😶 That's too much of a coincidence to just dismiss it like that. dead bodies and fecal matter are two very different smells and that's a poor comparison.
I was shocked by how that 911 call went. Seemed to be pretty much: Oh, my daughter has been missing for a month, I think the babysitter took her. I’m not too worried.
@Arminius Music hahaha! So true. Also her “my attorney and I (coz she has him on number 1 speed dial being such a stickler for the law) will entertain any question” is so stupidly bone headed in its confidence.
This is the paradigm of American society where individualism is highly regarded and protected in laws and constitutions but then it fails to provide an identity for a community. The price is very high and we see now this society crumbling into pieces.
Everytime someone tells her what's being done to find the child, she's just like "okay, that's good"
Imagine if you really didn't know where your child is. You'd be telling family to put together a search party, you'd be telling police to put out an alert and spread her photo, you'd be on the internet asking people for help.
She didn't even pretend to have any proactive attempt at finding the child.
She slipped up at 30:04 also and quickly covered with a new statement :(
Really tragic for the child and heart breaking for the grandparents.
The real kicker is that had she not corrected herself, its unlikely anyone would have noticed her slip up because it would have been pretty easy to say she actually said "she's had both of you" which would be present tense, instead of the past tense "she had" due to the muffled audio quality and the pattern of her parent's denial. By correcting herself, she only brought more attention to her mistake.
Her parent's have covered up for her in the past. Her father is an ex police officer he has to know she's lying. There's something about her parent's that just seems off.
@Hatin Life maybe but you see... she chose to have a kid. So it is to be expected that she would care about her. If not, she could have spared herself the trouble and abort or put her girl up for adoption. The fact that you don't like kids isn't a free pass to neglect yours (or kill them).
She is really hate her baby, and this woman, really think her baby take her happiness in life. I mean, she wants her parents to love her, support her even tho she is doing bad, not go to school, even killing people. But as a parents, she dont do what she demands her parents do to her and kill her child instead.
@Hatin Life if you dont love your kid, dont kill her. Give her to other people far more better than you.
Your kid is human being too, similar like you. You as human being deserve to live. Why your kid has no right to live? Give your kid to other people, and stop making baby, if you cant love anything
@G. Montoya i dont know,, if i am in pain, imagining how happy it is in my parents hugs, will make me crying out tears. But i will said. Yes mom and dad,, i want to hug you too..
@Lourens Sianturi Never said her emotions weren’t selfish. But still, emotions are emotions. The other commenter was implying she wasn’t capable of having any emotions but that’s clearly untrue when she feels pity for herself.
@Abe Hoard u don't have a problem with the defense attorney...u have should have a problem with the constitution...cuz the so called murders have right to a lawyer
Paulo Eclectik if you can imagine a better system to produce justice you should make it public. Just saying she should go to jail because we all can tell she obviously guilty would work fine in this case but would fail miserably in 99.9% of cases. The reality is that there are no perfect systems, which as adults we should all know by now. But you can't have a just society without have sytems in place that apply equally to us all. In this case the system failed. It will fail again. End of story.
Jason Simmons it's comforting to believe that the universe isnt the heartless, brutally violent place with no care for anything that it is. But reality is humanity has to fight for every scrap of justice stice and fairness that we can can extract from the world, and it's a neverending struggle that will always have flaws.
Really? She has never been incasirated or held accountable? Oh dear,this is so sad. I pray she gets justice 🙏❣️ I feel really so bad for the baby. Like she is walking around in the states today right now freely? Man,so sad. This lady is a psycho 😡
i was on jury duty once (i wasn't selected to be part of the actual jury) and it is blatantly obvious that the attorneys involved get to choose which jurors they want to be part of the final jury. and they tend to go for jurors who don't know a lot in general or at the very least uneducated about the topic at hand. disclaimer - just from my personal experience and observation.
To be honest it boils down to jury selection. The prosecution needed to make sure there was at least one person that would be a strong foreman. I was one on a case where the defence played on the emotions of the jury. Luckily I was elected foreman and I kept the discussion on the evidence.
puppykicker you spend trillions more on military than any other country (mostly allies). Maybe you should spend more on your education system? Also you lost against Vietnam...
@Vandalore LMAO... I've came across this channel very recently and indeed one thing that drew my attention is how the absolute majority of these stories come out of there.
I've heard through several locals that Florida has no room left in the prison or jail so to take care of that is to find all criminals not guilty for the next few years, seems to be working for the ones with just a little money.
@jo gr Exactly! This seems to be a trend with high profile cases, as if the DA's office needs to show that they are doing their job. Instead of justice, an over zealous prosecution results in a waste of 3 years of court time, taxpayer resource and reduces the publics confidence in the system. We still have the best system in the world, but people easily forget that it prioritizes the freedom of citizens and reducing incorrect guilty verdicts.
It wasn’t the jury’s fault I watched the whole trial and the Prosecutor sucked! Totally unprepared. They should have waited to arrest her and built their case past circumstantial. Especially since DNA was becoming a thing jurors wanted proof or dna. Her Lawyer tore up all there case by explaining away what could have happened doesn’t mean that is what happened. Thats when she threw her dad under the bus claiming she thinks he killed her. And then the jury was only offered 1st degree murder and to prove that they must by law have facts. If they had charged her with 2nd degree she would just be getting out of jail today!
the scary thing is, i read a profile of the jurors after watching this, and they sound exactly like a certain subset of MAGA people. this isn't about politics. but there is a "type" of person that lacks empathy beyond their own loved ones. also paranoid about "false flags" etc. it seems like the jury was made of the same people who call Sandy Hook a hoax. scary as hell
@Bec what the DA did wrong was choose to go with murder *first*. because she was acquitted, "double jeopardy" applies so even if they discovered video evidence of the murder, they can't charge her again. they were too trusting of their jury selection and humans in general. i believe the jury would have gone for manslaughter.
@Annamaria V. - She probably made that up in order to get sympathy. Her relationship with her father, as shown at the jail, was that of a daughter who is close to her father.. not a daughter who was traumatized by, or fears, her father.
Being manipulated by a very advanced liar doesn’t make them dumb. They’re naive there‘s a difference. It’s so sad to watch. She clearly doesn’t know how to love and care for anyone but herself. Also she is not aware of the impact of her actions and words on other people, maybe because she‘s totally disconnected with the world itself and her feelings about it.
@Joshi Nirav Yes. You have a lawyer as your defense and if its a good lawyer, your attorney may win the case. The judge has to decide if you're guilty or not. Before that, you're innocent until proven guilty.
@Annamaria V. that was obviously a lie, and you fell for it! If it was true and had anything to do with the case, they would have brought her dad up for questioning and the case would have gone a totally different route.
The only people in that courtroom with an IQ under 10 were the prosecutors. The Jury did their job exactly as they should. Yes, she almost definitely killed her child but the prosecution should've provided SUBSTANTIAL evidence that PROVED that she, BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT, killed her child, especially when faced with capital punishment. It really is a shame that she's walking free but there's no one to blame but the police for not gathering more evidence and the prosecution for doing a shite job. Jury had no choice. 3rd year law student btw.
At least one juror I heard demonstrated the fact that she did not understand that circumstantial evidence (and in this case overwhelming circumstantial evidence) is adequate proof for a first-degree conviction. She kept saying that there was no "proof." She seemed to believe that the only kind of proof you could convict for was forensic evidence, and this is definitely not the case. This should have been better explained to the jury by the court and the prosecutors.
@Bec this goes onto both ends tho, the defence attorney and the public attorney get the same rights. This is merely the down side of a jury conviction system. U can play them on emotions, a judge would look at the evidence.
I believe that low of a score is only achieved with the affliction of severe down syndrome. The jury were not stupid imo but extremely weak minded bc they got manipulated by that lawyer so hard.
Her lawyer is good I was thinking myself they can’t make her guilty under the law now... the other lawyer probably could of done better and the investigation part and the interrogation where not good and firm enough...
In the jury's defence, the could not say she's guilty because of the lack of evidence. We all know she did it, but there needs to be proof. She got lucky
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some idiot2021-01-02 19:59:50 (edited 2021-01-02 20:00:19 )
no offense to florida, but the fact the case/trial took place in florida eliminated roughly 95% of the world from the jury pool so it was pretty probable at that point
Yes, that's how it always works. Attorneys get to strike a number of jurors, and they tend to remove jurors who are educated, or opinionated. They want people who won't hold a bias against their client, and also jurors who can be easily persuaded.
There are both pros and cons to this. In this case, it was a disaster unfortunately.
@Annamaria V. my thoughts exactly! How is the father not even in prison or done time for what he did to his own daughter? Did that become another court case in its own? Like.. what the fuck..
@Annamaria V. They never proved that, there was absolutely nothing proving any of the conspiracy theories of the defense, it was all smoke and mirrors to create confusion and doubt
Yeah. There is something about Casey alright. She is completely Nuts!
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M Ro2021-01-10 13:31:26 (edited 2021-01-10 13:34:04 )
havent talked with her, but she probably has a high IQ
and most high IQ people "know" (witchcraft, magik, call it whatever, its real)
well played I say! I dont agree with her actions (who knows the true reasoning behind them), but the way soceity is setup at the moment... it pressures highly competent people to do "bAd"
could be a simple sacrifice, could be actions based on regret, idk, is abortion illegal where she did her deed? its all there, just gotta get her to say it
Go Pro2021-01-10 19:44:53 (edited 2021-01-10 19:49:26 )
@Annamaria V. you are wrong, her parents did everything right, there was never a sextual assult, all Caseys lies. And the reason we even know that Kaylee is missing was HER PARENTS! They are the one who called police! I watched every single day of that trial and her parents were the only one who had real emotions up there!
Actually a hand full of the jury members would later say that they knew she was guilty, they just wished there was more hard evidence provided by the state prosecuting attorneys. This case was a blemish on the criminal justice system
@Della With her Drink again Senpai. Hello. It took me a while to understand your post about Casey. After looking up the word Privilege and thinking about what it means, I agree 100% to your post.
@Bec that’s the point. When they interview you, they ask questions about the situation to see how much you know. The whole reason for that is to get an unbiased opinion since knowing about the situation prior can change the way you interpret information. Unfortunately, to not know who Caylee Anthony was in 2008-2009 you had to almost be living under a rock. Because of this, if you weren’t educated on the topic of the missing child, you most likely weren’t educated at all.
@puppykicker Holland is small but has a big influence on the world. They are THE trading KINGS....by far. A Rich fukkin country with a powerfull Marine. Afterall they make te best Marine Deks (Fregatten) of the world.
@Bec I can confirm, but I doubt this was the only factor at play otherwise this case wouldn't even been notable because literally anyone would be able to get away with murder. I think it may have been a combination of the prosecution not being prepared well enough (no confession) and this defense in this case between exceptionally skilled (and also amoral). I've also heard said that CMA paid for her defense with sex. It wasn't discovered until years after the trial though. I think the defense just did a really good job in creating a lot of confusion among the jury.
@ImginaryHeroine Hi, I was very interested to read you're comments. Have you any idea what her Father made of the allegations? Did they have any idea that she was going to make the accusation in court, or did it come as a surprise? I can't find anything that gives me the answers.
@Helena I agree. The detectives allowed her to be giggly & flirty with them. Perhaps someone should have thumped on the table & told her to wise up & take it more seriously. She didn't seem at all frightened, but then she totally ruled her parents, so I guess she never learned to feel at least a little bit fearful of authority.
@Annamaria V. we don’t know if she’s telling the truth... she waited a while before she said anything about her father! And IF he abused her, would that be a reason for her to kill her little baby?!?! Nothing about this case makes sense 🤷♀️🥺. All I know is that a little baby is dead. I’m a mom amd it breaks my heart. It’s very difficult to get/be pregnant only to GIVE LIFE to a mini human and to take it away without remorse? to me is horribly sad beyond belief.
@gaysy1st When this was still going on, the parents got questioned about the accusation and they acted pretty much like most parents do when they know they raised a compulsive liar. They knew she was facing prison time and chose to let her say whatever her lawyer thought would help her.
When the trial was over, her father wanted little to nothing to do with her and eventually he told the protesters and media camped out on his lawn that his daughter likes to make up stories and the stories became real to her. Basically, they know she's a liar but if you fight her on it she'll never back down. We saw that with the Zanny story, where she knew that woman's life story... a story she made up.
I don't agree with what happened, but the jury couldn't send her to death penalty solely because they could not find the exact cause of death Cause of death plays a huge case in sending someone to the chair
@Sarah Marie Most trials hAve 2 phases. The first phase is innocent or guilty. After that, sentencing. They didn't need to kill her. They just needed to cage her for 25 years.
@ImginaryHeroine the state pushed for the death penalty With no clear cause of death, she was proven innocent and was able to avoid the death penalty Now if the state pushed for a life sentence, she could have been proven guilty then, but at this point she is protected by the double jeopardy law and cannot be charged.
That wasn't the problem...they couldn't physically place this murderer psychopath at the crime scene and the charges were 1st degree murder the most hardest crime to prove. The jury never had hard facts beyond believable doubt. So they basically just followed the rules of the law. 🥴
@Annamaria V. Honestly, that part is just insulting.
I was molested, and I know several people who were molested, raped, attempted to be raped, etc. You would never know unless they told you.
It does NOT mean that we would casually dump a body. That's is nowhere in the normal behavior of ANY victim I have ever known. It wouldn't make a difference if it DID happen, her behavior would still be beyond abhorrent and out of the norm.
James P2021-02-08 11:32:26 (edited 2021-02-08 11:34:07 )
@James Mainstream I have a daughter. The first words out of his mouth when he spoke to her in jail "hey gorgeous" is very weird. Might comment on my daughter having a nice hairstyle or a nice outfit but never consider or discuss her level of attractiveness. Would be interesting to hear what othef dads think about this.
@James P I have two daughters, and the younger one I'll call sweet, beautiful, and other complimentary terms, but she's 2. I have a 22 year old daughter and I wouldn't be comfortable saying those things anymore, so you may be right. I'm just hesitant to jump on those bandwagons without proof, considering the recent nonsense that has been going on. Either way, my heart goes out to that child. Anytime a child is done harm like this, I struggle to fight off the thoughts of what their last terrifying moments must have been like.
@puppykicker WE? I assume that you were not there! And that was not the point here either! You are notorious for your weapons culture, unfortunately not for general education. Plus.... Your name here speaks for itself
The jury system is inherently flawed. The average person gets their high school diploma, maybe and associates and that’s where their education ends. I would never ever trust 12 random people with my life. I would never trust 12 people to do the right thing..
Because the prosecution never made their case. I live about an hour away from where this happened and I watched this trial everyday and I knew they were never going to find her guilty
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
@azsuter without reasonable doubt maybe...pressure to find a guilty is perhaps better than opposite.like o.j simpson for instance.i saw a interview of his then legal shapiro and he wasn t happy about the original decision.
@Bec each attorney gets 3 strikes meaning 3 jurors they can get rid of and pick then the court chooses by random number another juror to take their place. They decide by providing a voir dire which are questions the attorneys all agree on that can determine if you are biased as a juror
@Wurstfinger1337 no it's not possible to have an iq at all level of intelligence can't be measured like your shoe size or something like that it's just humans thinking they can control everything
@Jamie Willoughby Everything can be measured. Trying to say that humans just want to control anything is neither edgy nor true. Intelligence can be measured if we define parameters to do so. You are just outright wrong.
@Wurstfinger1337 what would happen if your intelligence is outside the defined parameters I had a friend that was very smart partly due to the fact that he was 87 years old he was highly educated in and out of the classroom and knew a lot of things if I had a problem he was the first person I went to l have another friend that dropped out of school when he was 16 because he didn't know how to read very good (not because he was lazy or incapable of learning but because the school system was not good and he slipped through the cracks) he probably would not do all that good on an iq test but he is one of the smartest people I know he is shrewd and learned basic survival skills because he had to if need be he could lead a subsistence lifestyle better than most people if l was lost in the woods he would be the first person I would want around
@Jamie Willoughby At this point I am not sure if you're trolling. Having skills and knowledge are not equal to intelligence. Depending on what you're interested in and how you grew up this knowledge might vary (the most fitting word for your second friend would be street smart btw). Some would say intelligence is the ability to adapt, some would say human life itself is intelligent and that's it. But most of the time when measuring intelligence we go by measuring memory, language skills, logical and problem solving skills, etc. which are all skills valued in school. Sure, you can just say that the school system is not the best and people slip through but most of the time these people just aren't capable of providing the needed cognitive skills. As you can see, there are defined parameters and especially your second friend doesn't fit any of them which doesn't make him any less of a person... if this world would only be based on ones intelligence we'd be fucked because we need these people too.
@Michele Mahon you really detailed the whole farce perfect. My biggest aggravation when watching the trial was how people were mad at the jury for the outcome. Those jurors had no choice but to acquit because the prosecution was so bad. Your right they were arrogant and thought they had it in the bag because of public opinion that they fumbled their way thru the trial. Caylee deserved so much better and her mother should be in prison instead of talking about having another baby 😡🤬😡
The prosecutor's book provides an interesting idea on this...he said he knew he would lose the case because of the jury. The case was so widely publicized that the only people that had not yet made up their minds on her guilt or innocence would be people who would never make up their minds no matter how much evidence they heard...and the jury basically said they did think she did it, but they couldn't be SURE she did...ugh. Basically, "Yes, I think she's guilty, but I still have some doubt..."
@Joe Bajano & btw, not all Americans like cheeseburgers. I haven’t eaten a cheeseburger since 1998. So one mistake right there, being prejudiced toward a whole country, & acting like you’re so above everyone. My best friend lives in Tokyo. & I have family in Europe, but have no desire to visit-bc of all the ignorant prejudiced snobs.
That's how it works. Been in 3 jury duty requests so far in my life. I always get booted due to my interest in the facts and questions about the attorney s line of questioning. One time I heard waaaayy to much about a "self defence" murder case. But the attorney litteraly told the jury pool that the dude had been shot in the back off the defendants property.. initially I thought wtf... You just got bias with letting us know facts about the case that we shouldn't have known!!! But it was a calculated move.. cherry picking the jury. Anyhoo. F casey anthony.. lol. Let's just forget about the duct tape... I use duct tape every time I go swimming, works great. Nothing bad has ever come from putting duct tape over your mouth.. .. ever.. 😆
@Annamaria V. apparently the grandparents were instructed to show NO emotions during trial or they would be removed. I don’t believe she was sexually abused, but used that as a way to get out of trouble because her first plan didn’t work. I’m no expert and wasn’t there, tho.
@J Bird the abuse part, if you listen, is to justify her lies. She's been forced to lie since she was young because her dad forced her so. And given the parents covered up her lies, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened for real. Her parents look fake af
I find it hilarious how nobody understood what they said in the end. DONT SPECULATE and if your NOT sure you can't prove it. if you cant prove it you cant sentence someone. Like the lawyer said : the key question will never be answered. how did she die? maybe her mom did kill her , maybe not. Nobody can prove it. Besides that its an horrible event that she died. she didnt deserve that.. And you can see the mom is hurting , whatever reason that is i dont know.
jan cason2021-03-15 15:38:59 (edited 2021-03-15 15:43:34 )
This whole thing is disgusting, and growing up with mental and physical child abuse I can swear there are people out there who get off on this kind of thing. I had 13 years of abuse, and it changes you so much, you cannot go back to the person you were meant to be. Also, I mean no disrespect here, but Ano Nym, you are very witty.
@jan cason i agree that it is disgusting. and im sorry you had to go trough it. you cannot go back to the person you were. but if you conquere your trauma you will be jan 2.0 this is a metaphore i hope u understand it. you cant undo whats done. and yes i know people get off this kind of stuff. but it isnt proven in this case. all i can see is that she is desperate. and an innocent life is lost. thank you for sharing :) i respect you! Sometimes people judge even tho they dont know what they are talking about
MandaLa 314 you can not be serious, god you people are obsessed with trump and his supporters, sickening. A jury like that actually comes across like leftists.
@First name Last name I agree! Come on, maaan. That horrible woman would say ANYTHING at ANY TIME to get out of ANY consequence. She murdered her child so what's to stop her from destroying her devoted parents as well? What excuse could someone have to just believe that she was telling the truth about her dad? Oh, wait, I forgot... "Believe all women!"
You make a mistake, all be it a small one. Their COMBINED iq is actually under 10, not each individual one having less than 10 (i know the comments oldish but had to tell this dumb joke[not as dumb as the jury tho])
@Bec It depends on the cases. In cases like this I must say u want a young below 40yo educated, possibly not married nor have children and have social life jury. This is a death penalty case, most of the time jury on death penalty cases are more cautious if theres no physical evidence. They dont want that on their conscience later on. For me the prosecutors thought her lies and digital evidence would suffice. Yes the evidence would convince me that shes not a good person, but if theres even a slightest doubt that this girl might not do it then the case would go 50/50 or even fall apart. Prosecutors did a bad job in linking their theory of 'shes a bad person' to killing a baby.
It’s easier than you think to be manipulated though. That’s why cults exist. Things would be better if her lawyer dedicated his talents to writing instead.
@Bec Totally, but that's why prosecutors are supposed to be part of the process too! If jury selection is why a case goes weird, somebody made a big mistake.
Important to remember that jurors don't make decisions based on whether or not they think someone is guilty or not. Its all based on evidence and weird rules. Many jurors have had to say not guilty due to lack of evidence etc when they knew/felt the defendant was actually guilty. Its kinda fucked.
Yeah i dont understand this either, i wouldnt want such stupid and easilly manipulated people to decide my fate, it all boiled down th which lawyer was better, the truth had nothing to do with this trial.
@Rudy Flannery why? You had nothing to do with this. Lawyers have a way to convince people they’re bad if they think a certain way and most will follow if one believes lawyers or media etc..
I am honestly still baffled by the fact that, boiled down, the life of a person is decided by 12 random people with no necessary understanding of the law whatsoever.
Actually jury had no choice.bcz of lack of evidence thats the truth u can deny it.even if u think also i myself thing she killed her child we cant say someone is guilty without evidence.
@Bec This is true. If you work in a profession which likely indicates intelligence they'll clear you of jury duty, whereas if they think it's possible you'll just go with the herd it's all green. A relative of mine is a doctor and he has never been on jury duty. But his wife who's "just a housewife" has had it.
@Bec they actually chose me for a jury and I am highly educated. I’m not tooting my own horn, but I’m saying that they do choose people sometimes with educations. That said, I got out of jury duty because my patients aren’t going to care for themselves for weeks on end while I make $25-30 a day sitting on a jury. The judge signed off on releasing me immediately as soon as he found out what I did.
I think that’s why a lot of the people on juries are actually less educated, or at least are stay-at-home-parents— they can afford to miss working a little more than some of the rest of us. Personally, I fully support them doing their civic duty; I simply cannot sit on a jury without lives being risked in the process.
One actually spoke out and said his decision haunts him everyday.. seems they were rlly cut off from the whole scope of things and caseys lawyer was better at manipulating their emotions
You must have never been to Florida before. Not only do 12 people with an IQ of 10 live there, but the 20 people with an IQ of 15 and under also live there. I know, I was born there. Luckily, I was able to leave that state before It affected my intelligence.
I don't really know what you mean. Presumably you're talking about the verdict. Anyone can see, and the jury very obviously new that Casey Anthony lied, a lot. They knew there was something off about her, they knew she probably had something to do with her child's death, and they all knew she didn't care. However, they also all knew that there was very little solid evidence of a murder being committed by Casey Anthony when the police alleged it happened you talk about the members of that jury having a low iq, yet it's pretty damn clear you're not the reddest Apple in the tree
She is innocent. The baby drowned in the pool and she felt so stupid and embarrassed that she thought she would make it look like somebody killed the baby so at least someone else would be to blame and not her because God forbid that she gets her reputation tarnished (in her mind)... Then the Marijuana wore off and she panicked and ermmm... Where was she again, huh? Anyway must dash to the Clubs. This is total normal behaviour for a Woman of course she is not Guilty.
@Jason Kauppinen that is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Europe is the fastest growing Atheists population on the planet. America's zealous Bible bashing is front and centre.
It the war on science and experts that the right-wing has been pushing. It's designed to make all opinions have equal weight to actual evidence. Now people think the opinion of a c list celebrity is the same as a doctor.
@Annamaria V. ...do you not THINK this is a LIE also?? ..just think about it for a min...BABYSITTER..person in her MIND....where she said she worked ...Yes worked there BUT not doing what she said...list goes on and ON....do I THINK her father touched her NO ...IT WAS A FEEL SORRY FOR ME ....well that’s what I THINK
@Andy Tomlins I find most Doctors to be absolute idiots in my Country. The opinion of absolutely anybody could be just as valid as the next persons. A vicious and sick minded criminal can possess the IQ of Einstein and a deeper state of consciousness than the Prophet Muhammad was born with including access to the Astral Realm in a higher and more precise degree than even masters of Yoga such as myself, although highly unlikely... It is still possible that a Human could gain such a level of insight and enlightenment on a devastatingly expansive level that they could indeed attain a level close to masters such as myself in a few thousand more births...
Although though unlikely, with the odds of dying from a falling Coconut from it's Tree being approximately 100'000 times more likely for such a person.
@James P Casey was obsessed with her appearance. She looked like shit and her dad said something to make her smile. It’s no different than telling someone who isn’t that smart that they are “so smart.” You build up your kids in ways that matter to them.
I do get what you are saying because if my dad called me gorgeous, I’d ask him if he bumped his freaking head, but my dad calls me “baby” and I don’t think anything of it because he always has. Maybe he’s always called Casey “gorgeous?” I don’t know. I do know that I’m a grown woman, in her thirties, and definitely wasn’t ever molested though and it doesn’t bother me for my dad to call me “baby.” Now if my husband called me “baby,” I’d be like, “wtf? I’m not a baby.” 😂
That's the way the justice system works, they WILL-NEVER-EVER get an intelligent jury with the ability of critical thinking. This is true so that the stupid zombies aka jury can be easily manipulated. So look no further! I approve this message!
A lot of people have the view that women are pure, innocent. On the majority of countries, all of us are pounded with the idea of virgin, helpless, purity of women. Thats the reason theres so many incels, women get less harsh sentences for the same crimes compared to men. The feminist movement was powerful and its implications have changed society and will continue to do so. Reality is, from a societal standpoint, youre at a advantage if youre born a woman.
There's no doubt that whole jury thought and know she did it, but they have to go on what the defence attorney said in his closing statement. I seriously don't know how that lawyer lives with himself though knowing he just let a women who suffocated her daughter go free with absolutely no consequences
I will never understand how Casey was found not guilty when the evidence was so obvious. It’s disgusting to me how she roams free and that poor baby had to die. Internet searches about suffocation, not calling the police, partying for weeks, lying to friends, family AND investigators?? Makes no sense why she was allowed to go free. I’ve followed this case for years and it still baffles me.
Literally!! Like how fucking dumb were all of the people involved to see the searched on GOOGLE how to suffocate someone RIGHT BEFORE HER DAUGHTER WENT MISSING and still think she's innocent?? 😭 there has gotta be some sort of corruption going on istg
Tommy 503772021-11-23 19:37:35 (edited 2021-11-23 19:37:52 )
@DavoInMelbourne Firstly, let me apologize for being rude. I had just finished watching the video and for hopefully obvious reasons was a bit.. annoyed. In this case, I think sexism has a lot more to do with it then racism. It's a known fact that women get off easier constantly in court, and I'm thinking it's the same thing here. "She could never, a mother could never harm her child like that!". Swap the race, and I doubt anything would change. But if you swapped the gender, I'm willing to bet she'd be convicted in a heartbeat.
I must agree, i since yesterday after seeing this. I am perplexed, this person clear as day is a killer.
Her body language, her lies for a month,the google searches, the interview etc.
The childs remains found,duct tape over the mouth and nose. How can a jury not see this alone,as a severe real issue,how? They really believed the made up story, throwing her dad under the bus....as a phedo too.
Im blown away,just sad for the child. Shes a real victim with no peace or justice.
Plus if your kid drowned accidentaly and you were disposing of the body why would you ductape her airways?? This was proven beyond reasonable doubt because the facts speak for themselves
@slayne You think the prosecution let her off easy? They were constantly trying to portray her as a habitual liar and party girl who couldn't care less about her daughter's life. Granted, all of that is true, but this is the prosecution's fucking job, to prove the defendant's guilt. Why you would complain about the prosecution trying to paint a defendant as violent and aggressive is insane to me. Also, do you have any proof that white women without any prior convictions get off easier than black women without any prior convictions?
Emotions aside, she simply had a damn good lawyer and the prosecution made mistake after mistake. You can't send someone in prison just because of emotions and feelings. Yeah, we all know she killed her daughter but you needed hard evidence to convict her for it. The jury did the right thing and the only one left to blame in the end was the lame prosecution.
@Gaymer Lying to a police officer is a misdemeanor so nothing really significant but in that case she told so many BS that they could have charged her with obstruction of justice.
Thing is that there is no real direct evidence in that case. Her google search history can be seen as a circumstancial evidence but it's not enough to send you behind bars if you have a good lawyer. Of course all her lies with imaginary people and stuff are fucked up but it doesn't prove anything either. Moral of the story : Never plead guilty and if you are guilty don't ever tell them anything that could help the investigation. Better of serving them some BS stories or just STFU.
Do you know what forensics found after the autopsy, or if they did any research on the car that was reported as smelling like a rotting corpse? They never said anything about it in this video other than the first mention of it, which kind of tells me that the investigation just ignored it entirely. I've looked at the little amount of evidence and the mother's behavior, and everything points to her killing her daughter.
@Gaymer yes, she was found guilty for that and sentenced a fine and 4 years a However it was ruled out as time served because she was in jail for 3 years with credit for good behavior.
To be honest, if I were a member of the jury, there is no evidence in hell that would convince me to name a 22 year old girl guilty if it means that doing so would get her the death penalty. That would make me no less of a murderer.
@Iam Cleaver that’s why if you’re a biased juror, they won’t accept you for one of these intense cases. They’ll summon you for minor offenses like traffic
@Tommy 50377 you literally cannot analyze this case without at least taking a moment to consider this. In America there is a bias towards black people in the criminal justice system. I don't see how you could think that this case would have ended the same way as it did if the mother was black.
@Tommy 50377 Sorry, only just noticed this. Apology accepted. Yes I know, it's an emotional topic so sometimes our initial feeling can get the better our more rational selves. Yes, agreed, if it was the father rather than the mother, it could well have been a very different outcome.
@Kim Durig yep, agreed. In this ever increasingly shallow and superficial world we live in, you’re far more likely to be acquitted the more attractive you are.
@Gaymer yes it is illegal to lie to officers and investigators, and that’s the charges they found Casey guilty of, and at the end of her trial, gave her a 4 year sentence with time served from initial arrest in July 2008 to sentencing July 7, 2011 minus a cpl weeks from bonding out twice but re-arrested soon after each time and only served 10 more days and was freed July 17, 2011.
Unfortunately it is difficult to convict somebody based on knowledge or “knowing” what occurred with circumstantial evidence versus have physical evidence like DNA, video, confession, finger prints, forensic hair (like the single hair being consistent to hair on Caylee’s brush was found trunk of Casey’s car but the process used was new and research was being done on if that hair banding can occur on a living person) or fabric (like without finding fingerprints/dna of a suspect on the duct tape used on Caylee but was found to match with the duct tape on Casey’s dads metal fuel can) matches of what was used and what’s found at crime scene or on a victim. They have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt it was Casey and could not possibly be anybody else. I concur and strongly believe she is guilty but the law clearly states believing is not good enough to help prevent innocent people getting set up or convicted wrongfully.
Thank god the legal system doesnt care if you understand or like it. Fact of the matter is its better for a murderer to walk then for an innocent person go to prison for murder...
She went free? (I skipped the ending after the whole sexual assault prosecution part). FUCKING HELL this is why I hate the world and hope to die this year; it's too fucked up.
@Gaymer how the hell she wasn't charged with about thirty cases of obstruction is a mystery to me. They could have charged her with those first just to get her in a cell and then build a stronger 1st degree murder case.
@Tommy 50377 Bud it's definitely a race thing. She was set free because of white privilege - she is not seen as 'evil' by jurors and the court because she is not seen as 'a threat', as many non-white people are. Brittney Poolaw, a native American woman was imprisoned for 3 years for a MISCARRIAGE purely out of her power. Shanesha Taylor, a black woman, received 18 years of probation for leaving her kids in a car while she had a job interview. This is not about race, but her race was 100% a privilege in her sentencing, and if she was Native American, Black or non-white, she would have gotten a guilty verdict. This is the privilege that comes with being white, you don't notice these things. Take a look around every now and then and realise what's happening in the world.
Not sure if that evidence was presented in court or discover after. If it was presented in court then I am surprised it wasn’t a mistrial, but defiantly shouldn’t have been not guilty.
@Pet my head I assume you're talking about Vince Li? I completely disagree with the verdict, you're correct that the flaws there are legally systemic regarding the mentally unstable. That said, that's apples to oranges man. Not just a different country, different circumstances. No not every juror or prosecutor is racist in the States, systemic racism does not operate in every courtroom and corner of the country. It does exist though, especially in urban areas with highly concentrated clusters of low income, low education people of color. Because of longstanding systemic racial biases, privatized prison systems, investor interest and lobbyist groups, the US has not only the highest population of incarcerated individuals of any developed nation, it also incarcerates urban centered minorities at twice the rate. Given this, there is some merit to the notion that being a white woman holds a higher bias grain of doubt in some counties. Look no further than the blatant biases that exist in family courts regarding divorcees and visitation.
It’s because the body decompose and they didn’t have enough Evidence to convict in a court of law. Obviously she did it, but if there’s no way to prove it, you don’t have a case. There was the lies and the partying, but the whole case was a joke. The police and everyone involved could have handled it better
@Zachary Drummond You make a fair point , but the fact that what you say is true is still sad because even though the American Justice system is is better than other countries doesn't mean it's actually good. A gold turd might be better than a bronze turd but it's still a turd. And that's kind of the point of my comment. I just believe it can be greatly improved on.
Seems to me like you're in the position of a perceived disadvantage (being male), therefore you blame sexism, and because you aren't black are known a position of advantage there it's easiest for your dissonance to accept "sexism" as opposed to racism. The law is definitively more hard on black people than white people, more so than it is on men vs women.
@Gaymer She served time for lying to the police, over the time she would have for the charge actually while awaiting trial. Since she was found not guilty (she should have gotten a needle in her arm), the judge considered it time served and she walked out the court room free. Disgusting in my opinion
@Gaymer YOU SAID IT CAN'T BE IGNORED BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CASE! Saying that "oh she got off because she is white" means nothing. It's no different than if I said "oh she got off because she is a woman" or "she got off because she is attractive". You need to back such statements up with PROOF not just speculation.
The prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
@Ria Hill Obviously you don't know of any, regular cases involving non-famous people basically never get famous. There were over 20k murders in America last year, do you really think you'll hear about every single one of them?
And quit talking about 'blackness' as if it's some nebulous, spiritual concept. OJ's skin was black, so he was black.
There's always street justice. Wouldn't be hard to find the murderer. You could take matters into your own hands if you were really that upset about it.
I personally agree to what you're feeling Ma'am. And feelings aside, the presented circumstantial evidence is almost a dead give-away of what really happened to the child Kaylee. But that defense attorney sure knows what he is doing by raising an argument of technicality. What happened to the child Kaylee can never be proven without a shadow of a doubt unless there are eyewitnesses to compound with the circumstantial evidences like the duct tape, the internet search about suffocation and so on and so forth, and more so if they can coaxed Casey the mom into a confession. But this is where I have my contempt for most lawyers. Because, based on the circumstantial evidence only, although there is no eyewitness, confession or camera to record the thing, the circumstantial evidence clearly points out that the child, Kaylee was murdered, and that Casey the mom, just by her indifference to that reality is already enough evidence in most states and even here back in my country. And to see that lawyers willingly defend a person with this type of case is appalling and a foolproof evidence that most lawyers do lie for a living. On a parting note, let me quote Detective Sherlock Holmes regarding facts and circumstantial evidence:
"When you have removed all the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".
Casey’s cold response to her best friend crying over Caylee’s disappearance was infuriating. Christina was more concerned and heartbroken over Caylee than her own mother. Awful.
I hope Christina can get over this tragedy, bc between her parents and Casey herself..well ... They just don't GIVE a sh*t
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Belle Anneliese2021-01-07 06:05:39 (edited 2021-01-07 06:07:06 )
I’m genuinely confused. Realistically even if she was found not guilty of murder, shouldn’t she be charged with neglect of child, miss information to police and taking part in disposing the body??? how tf did she get away with anything
@GR GR it works "better" the less NET WORTH a person has. It's an issue of POVERTY and LEGISLATIVE CLASS privilege, NOT skin color. Stop drinking the sjw kool- aid. BETTER YET, stop trying to Jim Jones everyone with said Kool - aid.
To my understanding, it is because she was charged for first degree murder, not anything else. The evidence they analyzed didn’t sway them to believe it was first degree murder. And she didn’t have any other charges, so they couldn’t convict her of other things. If I’m wrong someone can correct me though; I am not experienced in legal stuff
But the problem here was that the prosecution went for first degree murder. Not other charges. So the jury was to decide whether this was planned murder beyond a reasonable doubt. And the jury felt the evidence couldn’t prove that. They shot too high with that charge. And I guess the defense knew that or she didn’t want to plea to a lesser charge... I’m not educated on exactly how it all works. But I know she’d be in jail had the charge not been premeditated first degree murder
Flavor Aid, not Kool Aid. Most of the people at Jonestown died from drinking or being forced to drink cyanide laced FLAVOR AID. I'm only stating this because you specifically mention Jim Jones and everyone always days Kool Aid. Flavor Aid deserves the bad publicity revenue.
@GR GR I am not saying that you are right or wrong , because I don't know the answer, but trying to solve a multiple variable problem with a blanket statement is what philosophers call "double ignorance".
The sentence was meant to be read sarcastically .."our system works better the more melanin you have" ...it was a way of saying you'll only be found guilty if you aren't white and wealthy. I seriously don't understand how so many people can't understand that.
The prosecution was not charging Casey with any of these charges. In court you cannot just randomly assign new charges to the defendant. If they still wanted to charge her with this, it would’ve taken a whole new trial and it would have just been done detailing her misinformation to the police.
Has absolutely nothing to do with skin color lol somehow I just knew that would come up here even though it's the last thing anybody should be talking about
@GR GR a poor white person and a poor black person will have much more in common than a wealthy black person and a poor black person. The rich and powerful are using us as tools, all of us, and they’re dividing us by means of race (along with under things). Stand together with all of us GR!!
@GR GR You can't really blame the system in this case, it was just one profoundly stupid batch of jurors. 99 times out of 100 this case goes differently
She was charged with neglect. She was found not guilty. Her charges and the verdicts are stated at the end of the video. She got off on everything. There is absolutely no explanation. Florida let her off scott free.
@Oof Da Doof you need to understand abuse and how that works. Abusers will help. This would be a long discussion and not enough room on you tube comment section. Google abuse online because there's so much info. on it. Thank you for your comment, and I hope that helps?
@Oof Da Doof awww, is there another way we can talk that you'd feel safe? I'm happy to talk with you.... There's so much info. to be talked about and I'm not working much these days so I'm available. You are wanting to learn...I can hear that. You have a nice heart...🙂
@Oof Da Doof Awww thanks! Well, I've got girls that are adults and grandkids now. Most people are shocked I'm a Gma. Lol... But I can look at Discord...I don't have that app and I'm not familiar with it. Oh, you know, tomorrow will not work...I have doc appointments and then an appointment with my coach for eating differently... I'm going thru menopause. Lovely, isn't it? So, let me know... I'll look into the app tomorrow! 🙂
@GR GR "Justice is blind" has never meant "Unfairly being locked behind bars is blind.." it has contextually meant the opposite. You made a mistake, stop trying to double down its cringe
@GR GR that's just absolutely false. I bet you're the type to still think Mike Brown was "murdered" by the police. The justice system is far from perfect, but it has nothing to do with race, you'd know that if you knew anything about what you're trying to speak about. Obviously wealth plays a part, considering lawyers cost money, but luckily for everyone in this country, capitalism allows everyone a chance to acquire the wealth they're willing to earn. I don't care to hear excuses, you either put in the work or you don't, it's that simple.
@Daniel W. OJ Simpson was wealthy, you think he'd walk if he wasnt?
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@Brenda Faithful yeah ,you know her dad at the video call was beside her and supported her, when her mother was focused on her missing grandughter , her father was focused on her. After all, i thins the statement of the lawyer about the abuse of her father was true, and it's him who supported all her lies
@Peepee Butt incorrect. That was one charge the jury could vote for, but they didn't. All she was convicted of was misleading police. Travesty of justice.
Welcome to American judiciary system ( Media manages & controls the judges, jury & the entire nation) People will do anything “ I mean “anything”. to have 15 seconds on tv’s) , teens will slaughter & bludgeoned to death their own beloved mommies just for that 15 seconds Why do u think the strongest nation on the planet, a nation proclaimed to visit the moon produced the dumbest& most mindless, heartless, boneless ( progenies) on the planet?
@GR GR the reason you need to draw it is because it could also “the system is less likely to falsely accuse you if you have less melanin, thus working better” the confusion comes from wether ‘works better’ mean more guilty in prison or less innocent in prison
What really baffles me is that they didn’t even convict for manslaughter, child neglect/abuse or messing with a corpse (even though that wasn’t a charge) when the whole defense is that she drowned on their watch. Then freaking buried her. How is there no conviction AT ALL?
To my knowledge, I believe the prosecution was completely going for 1st degree murder with no other charges (which clearly didn't work) so she got off scott free. Could be wrong, we watched a movie on this case in my criminal justice class so I'm pulling my knowledge from a few years back. Either way the whole thing is just disgusting.
@Mason Burkett Understandable. But Casey Anthony backtracked and contradicted herself so many times. There was enough evidence as far as verbal statements go to convict her alone her own car even smelled like a dead body was inside it, both her parents originally said that!!! How often does anything smell like a dead body??? I feel like the amount of attention this case got helped and hurt getting justice for Caylee Anthony. I mean Casey Anthony was out living her best life for an entire month without knowing the whereabouts of her own daughter... I could keep going there's waaaay too much evidence and signs and clues etc. That says Casey Anthony killed her own daughter. Smh, this case still aggravates til this day 😤
@Young Dab yup. I think the prosecution just didn’t have enough evidence when it came to the defense’s argument about her drowning. The body was so old by the time they had found it, they couldn’t determine a real cause of death; not to mention they just weren’t expecting the drowning argument to begin with. Since they couldn’t really prove that she DIDN’T drown and was killed through other means, a shred of doubt was still there - and unfortunately that’s more than enough for a not guilty verdict.
First of all there appears to be no proof for her drowning whatsoever. The search for "suffocation" and "foolproof suffocation" hints to intent of killing. Duct tape on the dead kids mouth and nose also does. The disposal of the body instead of calling an ambulence when she "drowned" shows Intention behind her death. As does the whole thing of her just not reporting anything for 31 days and misleading the police.
@Mason Burkett “lack of evidence” is such a BS excuse 🙄The child was found with duct tape around her mouth & nose, & Her hair, along with decomposing skin was found in Casey’s car. The internet searches, along with the constant lying & month long wait to report her missing was also completely ignored. Plenty of people in Florida have been convicted on less & I would bet my bottom dollar if Casey was a man, with the exact same defense, that jury would’ve convicted in a heartbeat.
@keijxii no one of the charges was aggravated manslaughter of a child its literally in the video... i can not imagine how they found her not guilty its literally the defenses argument... how can she be not guilty for something she literally claims happened as her defense
@Max Westphal i was thinking the exact same thing, if she drowned...why was there duct tape around her mouth and nose? this case is so frustrating and the fact that she got away with it just pisses me off. Caylee Anthony got no justice :(
@Jesse pierce i will never understand the reason why you would just have random people decide who is guilty and who isn't, i mean you would think a judge who has experience in these cases is the way to go.
23:38 is easily the most stunning part of this whole ordeal. Her best friend gets extremely emotional at the idea that her friend's daughter could be injured or dead. Yet that child's own biological mother doesn't show an iota of emotion. In fact, she's annoyed that her friend is getting emotional and she can't get a hold of her boyfriend, who she just admitted has nothing to do with her daughter.
This part of the video hit me very hard, just how cold her words felt against the sadness coming from her friends voice. This whole situation gives me such a strong sickening feeling in my stomach, I feel her brother and best friend know she did it.
Some interesting facts...When Casey was being held in Jail during the investigation, and as a search was being conducted all over the Orlando she never once showed any emotion...not fear...not hope that Caylee could or might be found during this time. The only time Casey showed any emotion (and it was a genuine meltdown-hyperventilating) was when Caylee's body was found near her home by meter reader Roy Kronk . Now remember, the news was reporting that remains were founds but not whose they were, but Casey already knew it was Caylee because she put her there! Her meltdown was captured on Jail video and a Dr. was called in. IMO she was and always will be a disgrace!
Besides making up the nanny’s name, Juliette Lewis is also a fictitious person as stated in the video. But Juliette Lewis is a well known actress, ironically who’s one of the main characters in the movie “Natural Born Killers “ who murders people in the movie.
I think she does word/name association in her mind as a way of remembering her lies!!!!
I can’t believe detectives or the court never noticed this.
Edit: Also the theory that when Casey made up name “Zanny the Nanny” is really just her associating it to Xanax (zanny, xanny etc.) bc instead of her sending Caylee to babysitter (who didn’t exist) she would just give her Xanax to pass out whenever she went out.
So in my opinion, if she’s the type of person who thinks she’s so clever to make up names associated with her behavior and actions as her technique to remember the fake names and her web of lies, I don’t think my Juliette Lewis theory is that far fetched.
About the “Zanny the nanny” theory, as far as I know it was the dad, George Anthony, who had a suspicion that Casey just gave Caylee Xanax so she could go out and party. As Xanax sometimes is referred to as Xanny.
@Daley Carter I think it was a theory on how Casey managed to deceive everyone and lie to everyone this convincingly...I personally think the killer’s just a sociopath who doesn’t care about anyone but herself, no further theory. But it doesn’t mean ppl can’t dissect her behaviour or try and see through her lies✨
I think that Zanny the Nanny theory checks out. As soon as I heard the nanny's nickname is Zanny, my first thought was this woman gave her daughter Xanax.
Maybe she used the whole 'Zanny the nanny' thing on Caylee as a euthansim so that she wouldn't accidently say that she had xanex in public, but rather she had Zanny
Makes a lot of sense. I’ve also seen that “Zenaida “ was a real person, just like the guy she stated introduced her to the nanny. She just picks out names to fill a character role in her head.
This is very interesting, I've been exposed to some lies which basically are make-up storiws from reality but most of them are made up by very young children. It would be very interesting to understand how this behavior goes all the way up to the adulthood.
@Drowning Lemming It was a miscarriage of justice in that she is obviously guilty but she got off. There was no justice. Yes, it is important to always have a good lawyer, but this woman is 100% guilty and she should have been put in prison for life.
She obviously did it, without a doubt. No matter her past, she killed the child. As JCS said, she gets off with a second chance her daughter will never have, all because she could afford a top notch attorney.
I heard a rumor they bussed in the entire jury from the OJ Simpson trial to sit as.the jury for the Casey Anthony trial because they did such a good job. Can anyone confirm?
Except it wasnt, they lacked the evidence to convict her, our justice system is based on evidence.
If there is no evidence against you, the state can not convict you of any wrongdoing and the state needs evidence in order to convict you. Is she guilty or not, i dont have a clue, i suspect she is guilty but that is not for me to decide all i can do is go with the evidence. Which is what the jury did here, should they have convicted her without evidence? Are you that naive.
@Tony Howell I've never understood where she got the money to pay for an attorney. He isn't a public defender i doubt. Her parents wouldn't have paid so where did she get the money. Maybe you are right
@Science is Hard Pretty sure this was done because they were worried if child was still alive. I felt the way you did but then thought shit they probably gotta play it like she might get saved
@Daniel Lassander It's not that they didn't have evidence, it's that the prosecution believed that the strongest approach was to convince the jury of Casey's (lack of) character and for them to convict her on those grounds rather focus on convincing them of the evidence gathered during the investigation. It didn't work, partly because the prosecution were fucking clueless, partly because her defense was so good, and partly because of the public attitude towards the case at the time. Casey killed her daughter, beyond the shadow of a doubt, she just wasn't convicted of it.
@Drowning Lemming Maybe it's important to have a defense, but I think you're a wretched human being if you don't find this an absolutely horrendous scar on the face of Lady Liberty.
@Kenneth Ledford Why don't you tell Caylee how she's just one of a million victims? Oh right, you can't.... Why don't you tell that to the people who really cared about her? Oh right, you won't... TV can make what they want of reality; every life matters, including Caylee's.
@Daniel Lassander How or why was it then that duct tape made its way over the mouth of the pool-drowned girl? I suppose her very flimsily alleged childhood abuse is just cause for murdering her own child for the convenience of her lifestyle? I call bullshit dude.
@A B He's not saying she's innocent. He's just distinguishing between legal guilt and how everyone feels about her guilt. Two different things, with the former requiring evidence to meet the relevant legal tests. Legal guilt of murder requires proof of deliberate, premeditated murder, which the jurours didn't feel was present. I agree Casey could have killed her by accident (probably too much sedative). It's the prosecutors fault for mis charging the crime and forcing such a high evidence threshold.
Absolutely, the fact they cleared her of all counts. Is unbelievable. Even if they couldn't get her for 1st deg. murder I believe they surely had enough for the other charges. They looked at her and saw a pretty young girl and nothing else. Worst jury, in the world.
@Kali These are all circumstantial. That doesn't prove she killed her unfortunately. They couldn't prove with DNA or an eye witness, something like that, that she killed her. A smell that someone said was in her trunk isn't proof. Either is her lack of emotion. Sometimes circumstantial cases are won by the prosecution but this one just didn't have enough evidence. Everyone knows she killed her that's why its so frustrating. I bet everyone on that jury believes she killed her daughter. But they have to by law, find her not guilty if there's any doubt
A B you are incapable of differentiating between “she probably killed her daughter” and “it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that she killed her daughter”
@Kali No. Not unless materially different evidence came to light. "The Double Jeopardy Clause in the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution prohibits anyone from being prosecuted twice for substantially the same crime. The relevant part of the Fifth Amendment states, "No person shall . . . be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb . . . . "
Guys, yes it sucks, but do you know how many people get away with murder everyday sitting high and mighty at insurance companies denying life changing surgeries or medication because it falls outside someone's coverage plan or because they didn't pay for the plan which would have allowed it? Or all those oxy executives and doctors of which many only paid a fine for destroying tens of thousands of people? I don't make the rule, just like all of you I just follow them. She was found innocent and that is all we have to know and now she is allowed to live her life.
@El Astronaute he's a defense lawyer, his job is to make sure that their clients get the best defense so that there is no reasonable doubt when they are convicted. If defense lawyers just sold their clients out if they thought that they were guilty, the justice system would be a joke.
@El Astronaute I wouldn't think about it like that. Defense lawyers provide a valuable utility that is required for our justice system to function. I wouldn't say that their job often involving defending criminals makes their job even semi-immoral, rather, it insures our rights.
Reconsider your position There was no physical evidence presented, as many others have stated. The prosecution went for character assassination and it failed. They relied solely on circumstantial evidence and they failed.
Jesus Christ, y’all are acting like if we don’t think the prosecution did enough to prove her guilty BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, that we think she didn’t kill Caylee. Those are two separate things.
Imagine if googling “how do you make explosives” was enough to convict you of murder, and enough to sentence you to death row.
Duckman1616 yes, I am aware. Again, misunderstanding my, and others, point(s). The point is that the jury did not believe there was enough evidence presented to convict Anthony.
The other point is the jury could believe she is guilty of something, but not believe the prosecution presented enough evidence to convict her. Googling certain things and having a lack of emotion should not be enough to convict someone of murder.
People in the comments section are having a very difficult time differentiating between personally believing she killed her daughter, and whether the prosecution presented a good enough case. That is one of the things that separates a court room from a lynching. People in the comments section want a lynching.
@Tim E Did you watch the video? It wasn't just a few google searches and being cold. She repeatedly mislead and lied to police, she failed to report her daughter missing, she was seen partying during the time her daughter was supposedly missing, she talked about being the happiest she'd ever been in her diary during the time her daughter was missing. There wasn't a lack of non-physical evidence tying her to the crime. Despite all this, not only was she only charged with four counts of misleading police, a judge overturned two of those counts.
You can call it a lynching if you want but it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that this was in fact a miscarriage of justice.
Duckman1616 No. Other commenters are acting like just because some of us don’t believe the prosecution did enough to convict Anthony, that we somehow find Anthony innocent of any wrongdoing.
It’s possible to simultaneously believe that Anthony killed her daughter and believe that the prosecution didn’t present a strong enough case.
@A B Agree! And also, if she was abused by her father, how come he never was charged for that? I just cannot wrap around my head how the hell the jury found her not guilty? After all the lies? Mind no direct evidence. Her lying about a bunch of stuff and not being worried are FIRM EVIDENCE! Right? This case always makes me so damn angry!
El Astronaute true. There is no such thing as justice, it’s all based on who ya know, how much money you have, and whatever mood the judge is in that day
@Bea I. Engio I'm pretty sure the United States can still sue, no? From what I've heard, if the state sues and loses, they can still be charged if a federal charge came in (even if basically the same). Not a lawyer but isn't this how it works?
@Andrius B I don't think the govt. can sue, can they?? A civil case could maybe be brought by the grandparents (Or anyone closed to the child) for her wrongful death. Problem is that its difficult to determine what types of damages are plausible. I think that pretty much only actual damages are permitted (like lost income, property damage or medical costs) plus a few hard to prove exceptions. As Caylee wasnt living with her grandparents or contributing to incomes, I can't see any damages being awarded for the loss of her company, or her present monetary value. Besides, even if it was viable, the grandparents may not want to sue their insolvent daughter; it all seems rather pointless and heartwrenching all over again. (Ps I might be talking ass, I'm not a US lawyer either (I did a law degree in the UK, but followed a different career).
@Bea I. Engio actually I'm almost 100% sure now because I just remembered that FPSRussia got sued by the state, won the case and then the federal government came in with the same charge and more and made him take a plea agreement.
Tim Tim because if she is capable of having such disregard for her child, She is capable of anything. But the source that said that she slept with her lawyer with somebody that worked in the office that walked in on them, not Casey
Not really. There's plenty of them that are worse, in fact it's basically impossible for a "not guilty" hearing to be a big miscarriage.
it's almost like there are.... billions of people on earth, and billions more in history, and almost all of them lived under judicial systems that were far more brutal and irrational than the current ones in the US or similar countries.
Hell has a special place for anyone that hurts a child but when a parent hurts there own child Satan will have fun with them. And anyone that would try to defend someone as guilty as this piece of crap they will burn in hell with them
@Lord Edward You are so right, This EVIL THING should be behind bars. The jury got this so wrong, After finding out the things that weren't admissible in court and after they found out, The jury has to live with themselves knowing they let a murder walk free.
I understand that the lack of evidence , however I dont understand how some people, with less evidence compared to her, still get sentance, I understand that it was because how good her lawyer is but it really make you think about the people that are innocent, but dont have such a good lawyer that still get sentence, compared to people with a decent amount of evidence atleast compared to my previous statement , are set free because they have better lawyer, I feel like even if she didnt have enough for her daughter murder, shouldn't she have been charged with child neglect, which you can argue lead to her daughter death, with the current absolute evidence?
Our court system is a disgrace. Innocent people go to prison while guilty go free. Often it's our own idiots we live with our own dimwitted shit headed ridiculously stupid fellow citizens sitting in these as jurors. We're reflection of our own stupidity. And it makes me so sick to my stomach.
As bad as it was, on the other hand it only involved one person and one death. The US government has been spying on its citizens and setting up illegal, classified judicial decisions, completely bypassing democracy, and half the public is convinced that the whistleblowers who revealed that information deserve life in prison or death. This is the tip of the iceberg; on the largest scales there is no justice anymore.
@El Astronaute that's his job and a very good job he did and there was reasonable doubt as the evidence was mostly circumstantial he did a fantastic job.
@El Astronaute There are also witnesses from Jose Baez's cabinet who said Baez KNEW where Caylee's body was for weeks before the police actually found her, and he didn't say anything just to cover Casey's ass.
I heard OJ Simpson has sworn that he is going to find Caley's real killer as soon as he tracks down whoever killed Ron and Nicole and brings them to justice.
Life will strike harder next time god will not let this go the proof will come She wants alcohol and party more than her daughter so let's see what she will do next
@Video et Taceo Insurance companies daily kill people thanks to slick lawyers that find reasons for them not to payout medical claims or provide help, yet no one seems to care and calls it "thats just business". Well this is just business as well and she is as innocent as all those insurance company execs.
It's time Cindy and George (especially) are given a much overdue rest from everything that CASEY did. They went through hell. Pure hell. Casey killed Caylee not her parents. Casey deserves to face justice and maybe she won't ever in this lifetime but there will come a day she will stand and face what she did.
@Floris M well idk , as individuals we can outgrow the things our parents teach us whenever we become consciously aware that it’s wrong, at some point she CHOSE to be the way that she is
@WittyVampire738 you come from a certain environment and still chance your behavior lmao trust me i’ve thought very hard about it, at some point the parents aren’t responsible for any decision that person makes , environment can only have so much of an impact before society starts to make an impact on the development of that person, therefore giving them room and an outlet to see and seek a different way of living away from their own. ive been studying this im college for 2 years im pretty sure it’s not beyond me but good try :)
I Boop Your Nose2020-12-14 04:22:37 (edited 2020-12-14 04:35:40 )
@WittyVampire738 - Well Floris, it's like this: environment is only one contributor. Your comment reeks of tunnel vision and sarcasm. No really! It totally does. Sorry not sorry.
@Marisa Rangel - You got it right! I'm sure swarms of people agree with you including me! ♡
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I Boop Your Nose2020-12-14 04:34:32 (edited 2020-12-14 04:36:12 )
@Floris M - Hold up Dr. Phil, I mean Floris. It's apparent to me that you have chosen your narrow position in this matter. That's your prerogative. Sooooo go have a Coke or maybe some meditating and relax. Or not.
@I Boop Your Nose Are you a politician? Because you use a lot of words while saying not so much. My point stays the same, i agree that it is not fully her parents fault but they shurely had a big part in it.
yeah,like, obviously she should be held accountable for being evil, but also, it makes you really think about how important good raising is. if a child goes their whole life never getting shown that there are consequences for doing bad things, then they'll have to face the brutal reality as an adult. i don't wanna say it was "the parents fault" but there is no doubt that if her parents treated her wrongdoings with consequences, she probably would've handled the whole situation differently.
@Grimey 420 thanks for the feedback, i have some for you aswel. When you go insulting a foreigner for a grammar mistake instead of defending your point of view with arguments you are the clown. I'm quite shure you don't speak 3 languages
her mom starts crying when she lets slip she knows caylee is gone when she says "caylee was so lucky to have had you guys as grandparents." she won the battle but she didnt win the war. the ones that know, know.
I have nothing to say except that this way of verdict was the result of a group's less efficiency as compared to the other. Although I am not trying to blame anyone, i just want myself to make this verdict a benchmark to recall for whenever I do stuff in a less efficient way, when doing that in the best possible way can procure the greater good. That how my inefficiency can lead to disasters
I think she died in a accidental drowning but the dad used to molest her and knew the cops would uncover that during the autopsy so manipulated Casey into taking this whole scheme cause she was already tapped and a horrible mother.
This case was so disgusting just disgusting! The judge, jury and Attorney was disgusting just sick!!! This case literally made me sick to my stomach and I will never forget get it poor baby girl 🥺 How could you be a mother and have no remorse for your own daughter and to be able to kill her and then the State of Florida let her get away with it!!! Literally walk from this I will never forget watching it on TV disgusting!
I was waiting for the defense lawyer to kiss Casey on the lips when the jury didn't find her guilty!!! Bro, what a stupid trial it was:))) Hope they all rot in hell!
WOW ... can't help it .... this lady makes me think of AH !!! But at least JD only has a severed finger and got away with LIFE !!! Poor girl .... Human kind can be such Monster, independent of gender !!!
Parents put up all the money for Caylee, because they desperately wanted to know what really happened to her, but instead Casey got the money and threw the parents under the bus. Casey took their granddaughter from them and all their money, then rode off in the sunset. Dosent matter if the attorney got the money, may as well say Casey did.
The story her attorney put up made no sense, given it was the grandparents who alerted the police in the first place. The nail in the coffin was ultimately Cindy Anthony refusing again to let her daughter pay the consequences of her own actions
this case proves that truth and justice can be twisted by an intelligent awyer,, that even if the truth is shouting at ur face,, that's why lawyer is the most evil profession,,
Told ya clubber I could not believe how single minded a women can get when another is telling her she is hot just to get laid and it keeps happening this is ridiculous she obviously thinks she is above it and as guilty as hell she would have pushed the button if she was Putin's wife " no club no world "
Once again, lying got her out of facing the consequences of her actions. What a disgrace. And the saddest thing of all, her parents enabled it the entire time because it’s what they’ve done her entire life.
It's disgusting how she threw her father under the bus with molestation claims just to get away with murdering her daughter. What the hell kind of people is this family made of?
Casey would fit naturally in to the management culture of corporate America. They're absolute experts at making confident assertions with the utmost assurance, even when they have no intention of following through. Yet her prior work experience was hawking photos at the end of an amusement park ride? Where did she get it? She's brilliant.
I get the reasonable doubt but they proved the child neglect when she didn't even try to find her daughter that had been missing for 30 days then lying to police which in it self was abstracting the search.
and all she's doing when she's crying when her parents are visiting her in jail is crying for herself cuz she realizes what a mess she has made of her life. She doesn't want to lose her freedom. She's not worried about Kaylee
Textbook COVERT NARCISSIST! This is exactly how aware these women are of what is acceptable and not. And they know how to get away with anything and mostly from shifting blame and having all the mannerisms of innocence, so they can play the victim card. It is never their fault nor doing... But they are aware of every wrongdoing they have done!
What a horrible case. She kills her child, then she and the defence add to the grandparents' grief by accusing her dad of sexual abuse. That is deplorable.
She's a little high above the eyes, and narrow between the ears. Also it looks like her ears are lower than her eyes possibly, which is a good indicator of evil.
How did she get innocent from the jury ??? I’m not familiar with this case is there a full documentary out there? Either way she’s out free and it irritates me that there were so many lies and she’s out free. I’d like to watch the case to fill in the blanks because so far this is a joke and it seems she got away with murder.
So she doesn't get convicted, started dating the lead investigator in her case. Wants to have another kid, is sure she's ready for another child & started a book about HER STORY. So like Michelle Carter she'll get rich from murdering I mean being a "victim"
3:37 one of many pictures with a bruise on that baby's face 😔
Fun fact: the only person who was tried again after being found innocent in their first trial was Harry "The Hook" Aleman, a notorious Chicago Outfit enforcer. He was a member of the Cicero Street Crew under Joe Nick Ferriola but couldn't become a made man because he was Mexican on his father's side. He was suspected of 13 murders and reportedly "oozed menace". His mere presence was enough to enforce the Outfit's will. He was tried under RICO and received 13 years for a series of home invasions, but before that he killed his brother-in-law Billy Logan because he severely beat his wife, Harry's sister. After his release from prison in 1989, he was tried with Sal DeLaurentis, Bobby The Gabeet Bellavia, Rocky Infelice and several others in The Good Ship Lollipop case and re-sentenced to life imprisonment in the Logan murder. He died in prison in 2010 at the age of 71.
I just seriously can't believe this there's literally INNOCENT people rotting in jail while the ones who deserve are walking free I officially lost hope in humanity
@S.Kumars whats a criminal? everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Justice is just a pretty word we humans made up. There is no right or wrong. Justice doesnt exist , its all in our head . it. Its the prosecutors job to proove the defendants guilt beyond a reaosnbale doubt , which in this case he clearly failed to do which is why the defense team deserved to win.
@Darth Dorito -Spicyflav. ok who or what is the objective observer that determines what is "Right" and what is "wrong"? Its all subjective and relative.
You don't admit to intentionally misleading investigators if your child is missing, and make up people and lies? Where was the forensic evidence? This is truly a shame. She should be in prison.
Will this case ever be re-opened? If not for morality, it would make the Modern American Justice system look more competent after losing face to this video (As they should! She should have never been let free)
This just makes no sense!! It’s been determined that her daughter drowned and she decided the best thing to do was duck tape her nose and mouth, wrap her in a blanket, put her in a laundry bag, then dump her in a swamp?! She should of at least been charged for how she violated her daughters corpse!! There is overwhelming evidence against her, but because they can’t perform a proper autopsy that makes her innocent?! Fucking ridiculous….
I'm dont even have kids and this case still piss me off she lied multiple times and for a month she never reported her kid missing the fact hes not in jail is a joke
The lawyer mind controlled the jury with that speech, that's why he decided to talk last.. it's all about psychology. Those lawyers know when they are defending murderers, but they still do.. The best ones are sociopathic, they don't feel empathy so it's way easier for them to sail through such a whirlwind of emotions
Ryan Blanche2021-03-22 16:06:26 (edited 2021-03-28 13:03:43 )
Prosecution argued Casey planned to kill Caylee.
But a lack of evidence showing it.
Juries can think the person is guilty, but you have to go by the evidence presented. Showing that Caylee's death was premeditated beyond a reasonable doubt wasn't cut and dry.
Was Casey responsible? Yes, but maybe for just negligence and involuntary manslaughter I would see if I was on the jury.
A. J.2021-03-25 18:16:07 (edited 2021-03-25 18:25:03 )
@Ryan Blanche i can't wrap my head around this! everything from the search history to the state they found the victim's body in points to a homicide and yet we can't pin it down? this is a case of the jury being swayed by the lawyer with that really impressive closing statement. Casey, in my opinion, definitely needed to be convicted. She definitely murdered the baby, and she definitely regretted it, but only because she couldn't take it back. Only because she dug herself a hole that she needed someone else to dig her out of.
I think the brilliance of Jose Baez' closing statement is that he frames the case in a way that makes any guilty verdict seem biased and unjust- this was addressed by the narrator, Baez evokes empathy from the jury while condemning the prosecution's alleged (According to Baez) attempt to evoke anger at the Defendant. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like in that situation I would have seen straight through it. I understand the point Baez makes about proving there was intent and as you say, premeditation, but ultimately, the Jury's call is still theirs to make, right? I think having the information that they did, a guilty verdict was inevitable, until Baez' closing statement. If you disagree, or think that Casey is truly innocent of murdering her daughter, I'm really interested in hearing your perspective on this!
Ryan Blanche2021-03-28 13:04:11 (edited 2021-03-28 13:15:56 )
@R P Hey, I'm just stating what the facts are. As someone above me also said, Jose Baez, Casey's defense lawyer's closing statement helped seal the deal.
Even members of the jury themselves, despite also thinking she was responsible in a way, felt there wasn't enough solid evidence for 1st Degree / Premeditation.
@FrxBass Defence ALWAYS talks last. Nothing he "decided", that´s court rule. District attorney is the first one, then Defence lawyer, EVERY SINGLE TIME!!
As I told my husband, after she waited 31 days & was forced into a conversation with the police... I was over her... Whatever happened to Casey, she did it
I'm actually impressed...she really just thought one day 'you know what? f*ck parenting i gonna kill Caylee and if anyone ever ask i'll say some nanny stole her or whatever...' And she freaking pull it off. Same can be said for her lawyer. He knew the girl looked like a total psycho, never reported the disappearance, lied to the police, her car smelled dead...so just to fill in with something he goes 'well she may have killed her i won't say no, but do you have any proof? no? well then be respectful and stfu' And he won the case 0 charges for totally neglecting, obstruct the investigation and possibly murdering a baby. I think he was holding a laugh in the final interview.
After the trial, the jury foreman made it clear in a press conference that they all knew she was guilty, but the state failed to prove their case. They proved that the child was dead, and had been in the trunk of her car, but did not prove WHO killed her. As well as Casey, blame should be placed with the prosecuter.
I think it's because the jury had a reasonable doubt that she didn't kill her daughter but instead seriously neglected her or even gave her to someone else who ended up killing her. They weren't able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she committed murder, only that she lied about her involvement and made up people to push the responsibility on. The Jury didn't know if she was the one to commit the murder or if she was just an accomplice, just because we in hindsight have the facts laid out clear doesn't mean the jury saw the same thing. She wasn't being charged with something the Jury saw as reasonable, since it was a murder charge and not perjury or criminal negligence. She should get a re-trial but the possibility of that happening is sadly low, and this cold monster will hopefully be seen as what she is for the rest of her life.
@Boujee’s World 💖 That moment when you Google "British English" and discover that 'defence' is not only a correct spelling of the word, but that it actually predates the American English spelling of the exact same word (defense.)
It boggles my mind how many judgmental people there are who look at this video (a video presented with perfect clarity and 20/20 hindsight) and then loudly proclaim that "lawyers are soulless" or " the jury is stupid" or "I woulda shot her" etc etc etc. Try putting yourself in that jury's shoes. They DIDN'T know all that we know. They DIDN'T have all the facts. And considering the statistics of how many innocent people are projected to be in jails (2.3%-5% of all inmates in the US alone - 57,500 to 115,000 people) condemning another person to jail wrongfully is a very real concern.
And as for the lawyers, every person is entitled to a vigorous defence (and yes, that's not a typo) provided by either a lawyer of their choosing or a public defender. And lawyers who defend clients are required BY LAW to provide the best possible defence they can. Give their client the best possible chance of going free. That is literally THEIR JOB. A lawyer that half-asses their defence just because popular opinion agrees that their client 'did it' would be disbarred immediately. And considering the exorbitant costs of law school (and university on top of that) no lawyer is going to consider risking their entire career and livelihood just because everyone agrees that their client is 'guilty as sin.'
Hating on lawyers who help people like Casey Anthony go free is one of the highest forms of hypocrisy. Because who's to say that YOU won't wind up in front of a judge, with the whole world saying you're guilty and a lawyer who decides to sabotage your defence because he secretly agrees with the court of popular opinion? Bet you'll have a different opinion of lawyers then.
So, to sum up, for all you lawyer haters and judgmental people, I leave you with a quote from (of all places) the Bible: "Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you." (Matthew 7: 1-2.)
@Raigen Huss Actually, Casey Anthony WAS convicted... of lying to police. Which, of course, is a crime. Of course, Casey would lie to police. She knew she was suspected of killing her daughter. But strange how the jury would convict her of lying to the cops but acquit her of murder.
@freedomisfromtruth ofc I mean look at the evidence and I don't understand there were evidence that she wasn't searching for her child bcuz she was partying and the her search history and the lying to everyone the lack of emotion when it came to her daughter how could anyone be so foolish to just let that slide?
@A. J. let's all say what we know she prob regretted it but the only thing she really cared about wasn't her daughter but was for her not to be locked up and to have her freedom.
@Ryan Blanche but still the fact remains that she lied about most of the things she said to the authorities and instead of searching for her daughter she was out partying even if she did know she died is that how a grieving mother behaves? she is cold-hearted and ruthless
@R P Your are ignorant to the court system and the law. It's a form of checks and balances and protects the rights of those who are innocent until PROVEN guilty. They couldn't prove that Casey committed pre-meditated murder even if its very likely. Was she guilty of lying under oath? Yes. Was it extremely likely that she had anything to do with her child's murder? Yes. However this is not the exact conviction that the prosecution chose to pursue.
@Aurelia That just means you don't value intuition or wisdom. Casey is very smart, manipulative, etc. However, she isn't able to recognize based on experience (often a driving factor of how wise someone may be), and is in denial that she can't weasel her way out. This could be considered a move that is "not smart" because she should be doing everything she can to not incriminate herself instead of trying to build a web of stories that are inconsistent.
@Antony Duhamel Good defense lawyers complete the checks and balances of the courtroom. Lawyers exist to sort through legalities on behalf of their clients. All people good or evil are entitled to a defense lawyer. If the law is working as it should, a guilty person will still remain guilty and the lawyers will have done their job. After all the judge and the jury decide on if the person is guilty, we can't pre-determine guilt to decide if people should have a lawyer. That would defeat the purpose of the most fundamental of American rights. So I'm with you.
This is insane so basically what her lawyer did was make people feel sorry for her by saying that her father abused her and that made her mentally unstable what the fuck🤦🏾♀️ at the end of the day at some point in your life even if you’ve been through something like this I’m not a therapist or anything I’m just speaking from my heart and what I feel I think she would have at least wanted to protect her child instead of harming the child considering all that she had been through if that was even true which I truly highly doubt it I mean this young lady took police to a job she no longer even worked and then laughed about it like I don’t understand the system is really fucked, twisted, Lord help us help America this is really awful but trust and believe me she may have gotten away with murder but she has not gotten away at all I assure you the good Lord wii definitely take care of her she’s definitely already certain it’s a lifetime in hell Hell definitely has a special space for her the story actually makes me wanna throw up I’m so heartbroken for that poor baby i’ll give you guys a prime example of what I mean by she wouldn’t want to protect her child take me for instance I’m just deslxss I have a hard time reading and spelling no matter how hard I try I can never get it right at some point that was actually my biggest fear of anyone even finding out and when I had my first daughter I was so scared that she would turn out like me I thought maybe my condition is hereditary or something so I turned my whole living room into a library and pushed my daughter to extreme limits today my little girl is 15 all students and from the time she was about three or four she was reading Harry Potter books and people always ask me how old she was when they see her reading certain books on the train there like how is she able to do that and I will smile and say just practice but they had no idea just how bad I pushed her all because I didn’t want her to turn out like me and today she looks at me as though I am her biggest hero I’m stuck working bullshit jobs all because of my condition that was undocumented properly when I go to take a city service exam test I don’t have adequate time I need in order to even stand a chance I have to compete on the same level with people who have no disabilities people don’t understand how serious this condition truly is because people like me find ways to get by in life that includes taking bullshit jobs like security so long story short because I wanted to protect my child I pushed her and pushed her and pushed her until I couldn’t push anymore And I kid you not I have no regrets my daughter is incredibly smart and now she helps her 2 & a half-year-old sister😊
@Somerset Young yes and I have a Nigerian uncle who has a fortune set aside for you, please just message me your SSN, bank account info and mother's maiden name
@FrxBass lawyers job is to win the case, they will use whatever means necessary within the boundaries of the law. It takes quite the character to be a criminal defense lawyer.
Kasey might not have murdered Her daughter, but she knows who did! She knows the truth . On just that fact she is guilty. What mother in the world would let their child be missing for over 30 days and then lie and lie and lie and lie.
Just imagine her attitude towards everything after she got away with this. This woman walks around in the world KNOWING that she has gotten away with literally everything she has done wrong in her life - including killing her daughter. Just imagine everything she has probably done since 2008.
Even if she didn't directly kill her daughter, everything else you wrote here stands. I just read that she said in a recent interview that "she wants more kids". That is even more haunting than her actual not guilty verdict.
Agree, imagine her attitude towards life since then. She knows there are literally no consequences to anything... What's particularly disturbing is how many men who have willingly hooked up with this creature since then, with full knowledge of what she's done & what she's capable of. Can't say I have much sympathy for them when she inevitably wrecks their lives.
@Emma Gatewood No man who dated her ever got very serious with her leave alone having a child with her. Sex with a psycho can be fun. Even if the legal system let her off, society has other ways to punish those it deems guilty. I just feel sorry for her dad. His daughter just accused him of touching her to save her own skin. On the other hand serves him right for raising such a pathetic human being.
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Howard Gofstein2022-02-03 10:55:44 (edited 2022-02-03 10:56:35 )
And her parents having a HS graduation party for her, and telling people she graduated with honors even though THEY KNEW she didn't graduate. WTF is that? And her father, during the jail visit, saying he wished he had been a better father and grandfather. And that BS about him molesting her. If her parents knew her lawyer was gonna spring that fiction, I bet they STILL would have supported her. What is their relationship now, if any?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Jennifer Nader idk, two years in a cell for someone used to partying all the time is a long time, but yeah, her punishment was too lenient, no doubt about it. But at least everyone knows her face and likely call her out everywhere, unless she changed her face somehow!
She used to Make YouTube videos. And she said she doesn’t care what people think -she sleeps fine at night. She also said if caylee was alive she would be “kicking ass”
Her parents seemed really nice but they seemed like pushovers. Her mom knew immediately and didn't want to admit it to herself. They raised her, they know how she is, her dad didn't know but her mom did right away, poor woman... That moment you realize "my pride and joy is an absolute monster and a worthless human being", has to hurt so bad. Would be almost as bad as if they overdosed and died. Almost worse in some ways...
@christine alessandrini that’s a bit of a stretch. Any like links or things to read that back up that ? Or just soley Bc she isn’t in jail right now she’s protected by the powers that be ?
@Lily Reyes downtown west palm beach. I've actually seen her a handful of times now...laughing about how some girl wanted to fight her once. She lives off the attention.
That’s what makes psychopaths so dangerous. They often deceive people far too easily, because we decide by emotional and appearance factors rather then by pure evidence or logic.
We'd like to see all the evidence you've gathered that proves she did it. You must be a massive psychopath to keep all this evidence of her guilt from the public.
I don’t understand how there’s no evidence? She lied about EVERYTHING! Where her daughter was, there wasn’t even a nanny, that she still worked, the list goes on. This is in the most infuriating case! She is guilty, absolutely!
@Sqwan2 First, there was evidence in this case. It just wasn't concrete enough for this jury I guess. Secondly, your examples are hilarious. Especially the first one, like what the fuck are you even talking about lmao.
@ShelbyCookie2000 yes she is, but that doesn't mean that she murdered her. She is allowed to lie if she will incriminate herself otherwise. Negligent child abuse would be a crime. Especially if you try to cover it up. Also it is not her duty to assist the police in whatever task they might have todo. Just becuase she wasted police time doesn't mean she killed her child. 9 times out of 10 it is a good thing to was the time of police. In this time they cant harass innocent people or shoot black people in the back. Of course she knew that her daughter was dead. But that doesn't mean she killed her. I also know that my grandma is dead, but I didn't kill her. Even though I was partying many many times since then. That is not how it works.
The defense presented an alternative explaination that the prosecutors could not disprove. This alternative explaination would also explain why she lied. The defense agreed that she certainly had some majors screws loose(but said it in a way that would sound more sympathetic) and disputed the cause of death. Given that Casey was really messed up it is reasonable to believe that she would have acted the same if her daughter had drowned in the pool due what is ultimately negligent behavior on her part.
The fact that she lied was no more than circumstantialt evidence regarding the charge of murder. They only proved that she had something to hide, but offered no direct proof on Caseys involvement in Caylees death.
@Sqwan2 Her conduct is absolutely bizarre following her daughter's death. She's out partying while Caylee rots in her trunk with duct tape on her mouth. And then she knows her daughter is dead and is lying out of her ass . Not to mention her callous reactions to her family and friends' concern over her missing daughter. This is not the behavior of an innocent person, and in almost every murder case ever, it incriminates the suspect. Also how the heck do you figure her Googling "foolproof suffocation" methods on the night Caylee disappeared is "not evidence"?
@pinball1970 and she was found guilty of that correct?! Her lying and them able to prove she lied is evidence that she lied to the police...gave false information. Not at all is proof she murdered her child. Pretty simple.
@Bill the Fifth no, I also like them imprisoned, too. But not at all costs. I also like to be free myself. And the system is designed to protect that freedom. It is better to let 100 murderer slip than imprison one person falsely. This is meant to protect you. You shouldn‘t let your feelings take over. This can come back to you like a boomerang…
@Ted Lambert I don't know how the law works just some basics. I have been on jury service once and they said a guilty verdict has be beyond reasonable doubt via the facts of the case. The facts here, she admitted to dumping the body. If your child drowns you call an ambulance immediately. Even if the child is dead a mother in desperation calls 911 with a glimmer of hope? She didn't do that, she dumped her in a swamp. A distraught mother would then do what? Go partying? Write in her journal that she was happy? All the rest was a red herring so she would not get caught, the fabrication regarding the nanny and work colleagues. When did the accidentally drowning story arise? After two years? Apologies I have forgotten some details. She was in charge of that child who subsequently died and she got rid of the body. Two options, it was an accident or she killed her. I have no doubt she killed that kid.
@Sqwan2 I don't think feelings come into too much, we are not connected to the family. It is a tragedy yes. I said the same to Ted Lambert. The facts are the child died in her care and she then disposed of the body. She then went out partying, wrote she was happy in her journal. She is asking us the accept that is how a distraught mother would behave. She googled suffocation and the recovered body had duct tape on the head? (I will watch it again, I can't remember all the details) I do not accept her story the child died via accident. It is about plausibility and nothing in her story adds up. What I don't know is if the jury were privy to details that JCS provided. Perhaps not all those details were presented as evidence? Admissible?
@pinball1970 I don't say she is innocent. I also don't say, that everything went right. And I absolutely don't argue in favor of her. I argue in favor of the law system. It is designed to protect innocent people risking to let a murderer slip. Considering that, I think the jury and the judge made the right decision. It isn't their mistake that a murderer maybe is free.
@pinball1970 Please don't waste your time on me. This discussion is intersting but for me not worth to watch it again. Both of us are civilised man. I think we can deal with other opinions without being offended. If we were both in the jury we might have a discussion. But we would work that out. Most likely we would have much more information on the case. This video is about an hour long, so there are parts missing. Maybe I would be with you if I had all the evidence. From what I can see from the video, I think the jury and the judge did the right thing. The prosecutor didn't do his due diligence in my opinion. But I am also fine with yours.
@pinball1970 I hope you didn't get me wrong (I am not an native english speaker as you probably already guessed). I don't want to shut down the discussion if you are really interested in it. People on social media (including me) tend to overinvest just for the sake of argument. Most likely these arguments become very rude pretty soon. Just would like to prevent that. I am also interested in your view. And maybe you can convice me.
@Sqwan2 No I hadn't guessed that English is not your first Lang. You are obviously intelligent! I need to watch again and more importantly find out which details were given to the jury. That is what is important for me. I will check in soon mate.
@pinball1970 Well, when I was young I thought I wont need english ever again after school. So I attended english class mostly for the pursuit of chalk. That wasn't very smart. I had to learn english later in an evening class. I went to Ireland for a year to work there and get more fluent but my grammer and my spelling is still not that good. So I feel honored by the fact that you didn't guessed it :) I really enjoy this conversation. It is nice to talk to someone on social media who is intelligent and well behaved as well.
@Sqwan2 I would suggest that you watch the infographics show. It has shown multiple cases of people being wrongfully convicted and given the death penalty(mainly people of colour) with little to no evidence. Based on the presentation here and the evidence shown to the jury, there was a high chance that she would be getting the death penalty in my opinion.
@Masroor Ahmad Bani Ah, because someone else had done stupid things in the past, we should repeat that as often as possible. This is a really special way of learning from mistakes in the past...
@Sqwan2 I mean history does repeat itself and were all human. the american justice system has its flaws and the people on jury duty also might have a bias when it comes to someone who is white and female.
@pinball1970 My native language is german. Normally I keep that for me because americans tend to get biased (not to say racist) once they hear it. That can make a reasonable discussion pretty hard.
@Masroor Ahmad Bani This can happen, yes. But you have 12 people, choosen by both sides. In the USA all 12 people have to agree on the verdict or you have a "hung jury" (this is not uncommon). Also most americans are decent people. It doesn't prevent them from making a mistake, thats right. But we were not part of the trial. We have watched a video, carefully edited by a person with its own intentions, a person who also has an opinion. Even if the editor tried to make the video open minded (what I doubt, because youtube doesn't work like that, it works with echo chambers), it still mirrors his or her biases. So in doubt, I give the jury the benefit.
@Ted Lambert I watched it again. Some key things missing for me. I would have liked to have seen some of the cross examination. She did not actually tell police where the body was? Also no details about where how and why she dumped the body.
@pinball1970 Of course most americans are decent and I had many nice discussions. Unfortunately the others make sure that they get noticed. It doesn't bother me anyways. It's just sad that the not so decent people often times destroy everything constuctive.
@Sqwan2 As soon as someone reverts to insults you know the argument must be weak. Also the smart people ask questions, those who have made their minds up already will not learn. This case we have been talking about gets even more bizarre, law suits against Casey Anthony after the trial and details in the trial too. Her father got rid of the body??? She did not speak at the trial? Very strange.
I don’t think you understand quite how the law works. Yes, she made up an entire persona for a nanny that never existed. But how is that evidence that she murdered her own daughter? She told the police that she worked somewhere that she didn’t. We know that’s a lie. But how is that evidence that she murdered her own daughter? We know that she lied to the police when she said that a work colleague had introduced this fictitious nanny to her. But how is that evidence that she murdered her own daughter? Are you seeing a pattern here? There is no evidence that she murdered her child. How are you not understanding that?
@Kevin Bolton I am totally ignoring the charade she presented. I am just focusing on the fact the child died in her care and was dumped in a swamp with duct tape round the head. Someone from her IPE googled suffocation the night before and then the kid was never seen again. As a parent, the absolute LAST thing I would do is dump my kid in a swamp after accidentally drowning, get a tattoo that life is beautiful, enter in my diary that it was 'the right decision' then go party. She killed that kid and got rid of the body.
@pinball1970 Again. E V I D E N C E!!! A person cannot be found guilty of murder based on their internet search history, nor getting a tattoo, nor going out to a club. I hope you are never allowed anywhere near a jury, as you simply don’t understand the concept of ‘evidence’.
@Kevin Bolton I do understand the 'concept of evidence' I have a degree in applied Biology and use something called the Scientific method in my job. Empiricism. Something you may not be aware of.
@pinball1970 While it is true that duct tape around head is evidence of foul play, it is not e evidence that ‘she’ put it there. Would you like to be convicted of murder because someone you knew was murdered and the prosecution argued that their hands were taped behind their back with duct tape, so that points to foul play, so that points to you.
@Kevin Bolton They ruled the death a homicide after the body was examined. One thing is certain there is an awful lot about this case that does not make sense. Casey Anthony did not testify at the trial but her father did. My guess is they would be worried she would incriminate herself. Her father denied abusing her so that story could be a crock as well. Casey said in an interview recently that she did not know how Casey died, this was recorded and you can hear her say it. I'll try and post the link. So the drowning story is definitely a crock. Some of the lab tests were thrown in doubt regarding, traces of chloroform and gases relating to decomposing tissue. There were some major forensics fuck ups that that defense used to a non technical jury. There were Google searches on 'Chloroform' and 'suffocation' on the home computer using Casey's id the days before that were attributed to Cindy the mother NOT Casey by the defense. Cindy was clocked in at work at the time the searches took place. So how did she do the searches? She left work early. Sure they had an answer for everything but the jury was asked to accept some tall explanations. They are looking to put forward a new law in some states as a result of this case. Relating to reporting a missing child.
@pinball1970 I agree that it’s obviously a homicide. But the OP was saying that the fact that she lied “is” evidence thst she did it, but those two things are unrelated. She seems to be of the opinion that just because someone can be proved to be a liar, they should automatically be found guilty of murder.
@Kevin Bolton I am not focusing on her lies, I don't need to prove she lied. I am looking at the body, evidence relating to that and plausibility of a two year old died accidentally dying in her mother's care then ended up in a swamp. The drowning was just another lie so what happened?
@Erica Bouchard I am not involved with law so I would be interested in a neutral qualified view on this from a professional. All my mates are STEM guys.
@Erick Carriera Yeah, of course, there is a jury of 12 agreeing people, who are following the whole trial, but you are the lucky one who can do better from watching an 1 hour tape. What a masterpiece of Dunning Kruger...
@Nick Kromka she was in a bar fight nit that long ago 😂 it was in the news. A lady spilled her drink on her and Casey called the police... she calls the police when someone spills a drink on her but not when her daughter was missing smh 🤦 😒
@Unknown Name Yes the drowning story was complete crock. She was interviewed recently and she claimed that she 'Did not know' what happened to Kaylee so all that nonsense was a lie in court. The abuse story was also contradicted by the father so that could have been bullshit too.
@pinball1970 don't get me wrong I'm not saying there wasn't evidence. What I'm saying is there wasn't enough hard evidence to link Casey to the murder. Like I said, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. Was her behavior extremely suspicious, yes! But suspicion doesn't prove guilt. The prosecution didn't do the greatest job of linking the evidence to Casey. They made statements like, "Casey killed her then wrapped her in a blanket...." but didn't prove she actually did it. It's complicated and sad because this poor little girl didn't get the justice she deserved. I'm not going to say my opinion on if Casey did it or not. Just wanted to explain a different way of looking at what the evidence actually told. Did it point to Casey as a suspect. YES. Did it prove she did it? Not in the way they presented it.
@Gamer For Life If I was on trial for my life I would take the stand. Obviously we are not seeing the full picture of how the evidence was presented. We are being asked (as a juror say) to accept her story. A drowning story that did not emerge for two years. Did she kill the child? No, the child was left alone for long enough to drown in a pool and somehow ended up in a swamp with duct tape wrapped around the head. I would have rejected that story and looked at the alternative. Murder. We know the drowning story was made up as she said recently that she didn't know how she died. (Audio in an interview) The father denied abusing her in the trial. There is absolutely nothing she said about that kid that was true. Is there, video, DNA, eye witness evidence? No. Her stories had zero evidence to support them so she either killed the child or knows who did.
@pinball1970 if I was on trial for my life, I would exercise my right to not have to take the stand. Can't punish someone for exercising their 5th Amendment right.
@Gamer For Life I don't think this story is over. Something will come out. Double Jeopardy law would prevent another trial from what I have read but this would not stop something incriminating coming out.
@Sqwan2 according to your theories, EVERYTHING can be disputed and refuted. Even in your own example of someone seen at the crime scene - well, they just happened to be there.
@Надежда Неженка Yes, an that is done in courts all the time. A single piece of evidence is just evidence and no proof. You have to build a body of evidence that is large enough or strong enough to remove the doubt. Than it constitutes proof. And you need the proof for a conviction, not evidence.
@Chakra_SSE With everything we know, no. She seems to be guilty. BUT, we don't know that much about the case AND my opinion doesn't really matter. If you think that, you have to make sure that you can proof it - so you must have evidence beyond reasonable doubt. And they messed that up, I think. If 12 people who are really in that case agree for not guilty, most likely the prosecutor messed up OR she is not guilty but sold as guilty.
You know all those crazy stories of "Florida man" and the memes. Well I'm pretty sure the entire jury was full of "florida mans". The type that have been arrested for robbing a store with an alligator, or trying to buy food with monopoly money.
Why all these cases involve journals, I always thought they were a thing in movies and people didnt actually document their everyday to day lives. ESPECIALLY if they were criminals
Of course she did it, isnt she at least guilty of misleading the investigators? she was caught in multiple lies, what an amazing legal system... Don't comit any crimes unless you got the money to pay for it, ffs what a joke
@Shimmer Yes it's totally disgusting. I bet someone in prison now with a longer sentence than her for weed. Weed which is now legal in most parts of America. Americas legal system is insane.
@Sreenidhi Shukla I think it's probably true. Maybe the mum knew about it and not said anything. Would explain why she has a lack of empathy and love for her own child. She was probably blackmailing them to get her own way. "Hello gorgeous" is not the way you greet someone accused of murdering your grandchild. Something was very wrong with all of them. Yet all of them are free.
@N.A.C..80 Now that you point it out. Yeah. The 'hello gorgeous' was just not right. Would explain a lot of things too. Like why the parents covered up all of her mistakes. If her father could do that to her, I think he would do that to Kaylee too in the future. You're right. They're all weird.
They didn't. Well, technically. They fed into it very much but, they still stood up when... their grandchild got kidnapped... and Cassey was... well it could have been worse? That's not helping their case much but they're not the worst here by orders of magnitude. They just... feel sweet yet... so... so... hah...
@Shimmer I see this narrative all the time, yet no one ever presents stats. Where are the stats and documents you guys get this info from? Or do you just get it off of social media and youtube videos? I'm not saying you're wrong, i'd just like some proof. It's no secret that innocent people go to prison and petty shit like selling weed accrues a ridiculous sentence, but the whole "murderers and rapists get off scot-free" seems disingenuous.
also what I don't understand is with all the inconsistencies and the lies she told how did she get off and be not found guilty! Who did she know to get out of her situation? It's obvious that she did away with her daughter I don't understand for the life of me why she was not convicted and why she is not sitting in prison.
This is all fucked up. How does the jury fall for that lame excuse and manupilation by that dishonest and immoral lawyer is beyond me. The mare fact that she was partying after her daughter was allegedly missing immidiately tells she had zero care about her daughter and only logical answer is because she killed her.
@Eric Taylor obviously not, because none of us were there. whether she killed her or someone else killed her and she covered it up, a little girl is still dead and never got justice. hence my comment.
@Angie's Tales from Wales The prosecutor ask the jury how caylee died? And the jury could not answer! If she would have covered it up the jury could have answered that question thus what you're trying to argue is a fallacy.
@Eric Taylor sorry but what are you talking about? you're making no sense whatsoever. how is it a "fallacy"? a fallacy is faulty or deceptive reasoning, how exactly is my saying "rest in peace" a fallacy? or how is me saying I don't know how the little girl died a fallacy? I am not using any faulty or deceptive reasoning, in fact you'll find my comments pretty straightforward and easy to understand
@Angie's Tales from Wales No a fallacy means a unsound argument based on false beliefs and or idea's, we are not debating that a child was found dead but that it was a cover up and you're case the fact that Casey mom said that she was the one on the internet looking up the site's so thus your debating false beliefs and idea's.
@Eric Taylor sorry but you must be reading the wrong comment or something because I have not said that anywhere, I simply said "rest in peace, sorry you didn't get justice" which for some unfathomable reason you seem to be furious at and you're outright refusing to explain what the hell you're going on about to me and applying your own logical fallacies to me. so im not interested in continuing a discussion with someone who is just inexplicably angry with me wanting a baby girl to rest in peace.
@Eric Taylor yes well done thats exactly what I said. not the reason I gave - clearly it's because of your own fallacious argument. Well done you absolute genius
@Cronus Captain yeah you have to have a hell of defense because based off circumstantial evidence she’s guilty it’s a open and shut case. She waited a whole month to report her baby was missing ?
@Cronus Captain damn. And people go to jail for less than that. I guess it's what Americans want, the majority of the jury wanted her free, just like the majority of Americans made Donald Trump President. To the outside world, Americans want the Whites to remain in power not being held guilty for their crimes. I'm happy not to be born in the US. As a young kid, I always wanted to visit the US, but now lol. No thanks
I can’t quit commenting on this video. How did the jury not find her guilty… how? What am I missing? We’re they paid? The search result alone is damning enough.
I can’t even begin to comprehend the stupidity of the jury. Shits insane... she gets freedom despite murdering her daughter and having no remorse while people are doing life for selling Weed. What is the world we live in?
@AimyiiMarie81 i agree with you, on one thing. i also think she did it, i feel 100% sure on that. although, you are not "stupid" for thinking otherwise, because it wasnt proven. i know it sucks but i on one hand appreciate this ruling. i want her to be sentenced to jail but at the same time, it needs to be proven beyond all reasonable doubt. if we start convicting people without proof and rely more on guts and "the obvious", then we are going in a baaad way and many more will be wrongfully convicted.
The problem was the state’s case. They didn’t prove that she killed her daughter. They brought in junk science that was able to be refuted, then they also didn’t do a full investigation of the computer. I would’ve said not guilty too based on the evidence presented.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks I agree. The state’s case was shaky at best. I couldn’t find her guilty of murder based on that. These people have never seen the full case, only what talking heads like Nancy grace have said.
@TheFun Mugen you tell me there was plenty of evidence that she killed her daughter yet you provide none, just like the prosecutor. just beacuse someone can smell a dead body doesnt mean that that body was a crime of murder. it only proves that it was there, not what exactly happened to it. what i feel about men getting falsely accused and/or convicted of rape? i despise it, as one should. that is exactly the reason for my comment. i dont want people to get wrongfully convicted. how could you not see that? if the prosecutor can't provide evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, the defendant should NEVER be convicted. how horrible it may be, a system that convicts people without evidence is not a system i want to be a part of.
@UC7k64skN-eMKUOiaRcGDJYA that’s circumstantial evidence that the defense eloquently shot down with reasonable doubt. The state’s case had a lot of issues. Especially the forensics. They tried to introduce junk science that the defense argued against. If she was guilty, it was the state’s mismanagement that got her a not guilty verdict.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks “she didn’t murder her daughter. What the court finds the court finds” The courts get shit wrong all the time. This logic doesn’t make sense, and people are entitled to their opinions on closed cases.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks lmao are you ok? People don’t have to justify every reason that they think the court came to a wrong conclusion to random people on the internet, especially people like you who just condescend to feel smart. It’s called having an opinion, get over it😂
@Tanaphar Plus Masks who is saying anything to a court??? This is the internet. People can say whatever they want. Stop policing people’s language when their goal isn’t to prove anything to you or argue with you? How do you not understand that lmao, clearly you have been living under a rock and don’t get how the internet works.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks also, if you want to keep insulting me that’s fine. Stay mad, keep getting heated over people disagreeing with you. Hope you have a good day/night wherever you are despite the fact that you are choosing to be demeaning towards random ass people online❤️❤️
@Tanaphar Plus Masks I would also recommend anger management classes. Maybe that would help you not be such a spiteful person after someone disagrees with you online.
@TheFun Mugen Well you are completely generalizing people who are pro-choice. I don't think anyone is pro-choice because they want to murder children, there may be exceptions and they are then wrong. The difference between pro-life and pro-choice is the decision based on whether life starts in the mother's womb the moment an egg is fertilized, when the baby is born, basically whenever you consider the beginning of life. So no sane person is for killing children. Abut the case, it was not proven in the court and that is a blunder (in my opinion based on the facts I know). I absolutely agree she is guilty and a terrible human being but pls don't generalize. (and btw I'm not gonna state if I'm pro-life or choice because I am not sure on that issue)
@Jose exactly. and if you dont know for a fact she shouldnt be convicted. no matter how tough it is to see that piece of shit human walk free, we cant judge because of the "obvious". do you imagine how much easier it would be to frame people if that was all it took to get a conviction? this was the prosecutions fault, the jury believe it or not did the right call based on the evidence and lack there of. english is not my native language so no hate boys
I guess one of the reasons why America has such high wrongful conviction numbers is because u guys are the jury, making emotional judgement based on circumstantial evidences. God bless u guys if ya'll were ever made a clueless drug mule or get framed for something u didnt do. "Innocent until proven guilty" is not ur sole right, it applies even to ur worst enemy.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks People question things and come to their own conclusions, whether through bias or logical evidence through pre-mandated legal parameters. Unless you want to build a machine that can make all people think like you. Be the world you're in. There, that's a nice start to an infinite spiral.
@Jesper You are confident that every jury would have concluded that the evidence does not prove beyond all reasonable doubt that the sociopath pathological liar lady did kill her daughter? No one here have their pitchforks out in the literal sense and are not marching down to city hall to actually demand recourse. Plus no one is questioning the entire legitimacy of the legal system, which is funny because humanity can never actually have a legitimately fair legal system. The point is there are other factors involved outside the statutes and case law that have caused this unfortunate error to happen. Namely subjectivity. Although I agree with you if someone does not see things you do, no matter how trivial it is, calling them an idiot is incorrect and will not solve any problems or help you to communicate any rational points across to anyone other than people who already agree with you.
@TheFun Mugen They are just as f*ck*d as anyone who gets screwed over in this sad existence we call life. Tell me my man. How many naysayers have you won over, without just creating a separatist community that agrees with you? And when are you going to change us humans for the better that the past 2000 years of modern humanity couldn't?
Even with her daughter being found with duct tape around her mouth and nose... And her last google searches.... Those few things alone should've been enough evidence to link her directly to the murder of her daughter. Wtf is wrong with these sociopath apologists??
@TheFun Mugen Hun, what does being pro - choice have to do with this. You must have pulled a muscle stretching that far lmao. She deserves to be in jail definitely and this story infuriates me, but she chose to have that child. Poor child was brought into this world not wanted and them brutally murdered. It's sad, but maybe she would have been better off not being born to that "person" in the first place. Abortion is not murder, but this story is.
@Tyler Rae Well I absolutely hate the argument of: " it is true for me " and the personal belief stuff. It is not based on reasoning. But what I would like to clarify is the thing I meant about life beginning, I meant for some "Soul" (which does not exist) or consciousness or idea of self-awareness. There are things some people consider the beginning of life. And science has not proven they exist at conception. If you still agree that the essential thing that defines humans a human starts at the beginning it still does not matter. When someone is from your perspective misguided and believe that the essential thing for life is later than he honestly believes it, even as wrong as it may be. Based on this wrong assumption he makes a choice based on some morality he justifies. And so he is not a cold-blooded MURDERER just a MISGUIDED person. And you will not convince anyone that life beings at conception by calling them a murderer. And I would agree that humans are extremely bad species, evil and stuff, but when you think about it more people never even think about this stuff(what is their morality based on). So more people in the world are just mindlessly following the ideas that give them meaning. The pursuit of money, physique, traveling you name it. In my language, you would call it a "Modla" a thing that is an earthly goal that you use to fill the missing space when you don't see meaning in life(and they are not necessarily bad things just when placed and used as meaning for life). AHAHAHa I don't think you made it this far but if yes thanks for reading my rant.
@Julie Zhu I understand that innocent until proven guilty. That statement has saved a lot of innocent people from being incarcerated and gave them an opportunity to a fair trial. In this case... wow...just wow
@nikolas so many people saying she's not guilty under your comment . I pray don't have kids they're giving me I'd murder my child vibes literally . Sick . Imagine if this were a black woman with the SAME exact evidence against her... she'd be six feet under already . She got away with murdering her child the evidence is clear as day .... sad really really sa d
When she said they were "at the end of the hallway" and "there's two doors" and "it's just a matter of which door now". That was actually the most honest thing she said. She was correctly and accurately putting an analogy together that wouldn't be recognized until after the gavel rang in that room.
Are you basing that on a 1 hour video on YouTube. The jury would have sat through hours of arguments and were not convinced that the state proved beyond a reasonable doubt that she murdered her daughter. If we sat through the trial in its entirety perhaps we would have reached a different verdict
@King JamesIX wow thanks, I have read a little more about this case and opinions of jurors. If anything, if it's so obvious, you should blame the prosecution in this case, they failed to convince a jury that she was guilty. I just think trial by jury is a fundamental right, sometimes they might get it wrong, as they may have in this case, but we still need jury trials.
@Roy Dullman I don't think anyone did anything wrong. The prosecution did everything they could and the evidence was staggering and should have been enough on it's own. The defense, however, also did their job perfectly.
Hence the result.
It sucks. There's a skeleton in that woman's closet and positive reinforcement dealt in recompense for bad behavior. No doubt sociopaths get away with far more crime than normally functioning people.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks prosecutors presented the evidence as clearly and plainly as possible. They did their jobs.
The defense created an air of doubt on the evidence to give the idea that the evidence didn't prove anything conclusively. It worked. Clearly defense did a great job.
A child is dead and a cold blooded, selfish, monster of an excuse for a human being runs free to lie and possibly hurt someone else later on. That sucks.
What was so hard to understand about that exactly?
@Tanaphar Plus Masks prosecutors presented the evidence as clearly and plainly as possible. They did their jobs.
The defense created an air of doubt on the evidence to give the idea that the evidence didn't prove anything conclusively. It worked. Clearly defense did a great job.
A child is dead and a cold blooded, selfish, monster of an excuse for a human being runs free to lie and possibly hurt someone else later on. That sucks.
What was so hard to understand about that exactly?
@Jesper the amount of lies she tells is a huge indication - she told the police that she'd spoke to her daughter THAT day during that call to the police that her mum made. WHY would you make that up and possibly hinder the police in finding your missing daughter! That's just ONE of the many proven lies. If your child is missing you DON'T wait a month before you notify anyone and you DON'T make up lies.
@King JamesIX having watch this video I would say she was guilty and she should have been convicted but the jury did not agree. They deliberated for 10 hours. I did do some further reading on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Caylee_Anthony and this is what one of the jurors said I did not say she was innocent" and "I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be." She added, "I'm not saying that I believe the defense," but that "it's easier for me logically to get from point A to point B" via the defense argument, as opposed to the prosecution argument. Ford believed George Anthony was "dishonest." She said the jury "was sick to [their] stomachs to get [the not-guilty] verdict"
As the states attorney stated "The delay in recovering little Caylee's remains worked to our considerable disadvantage." I think he is right
@nikolas If you have much experience with juries and jury duty, you will see that they are carefully (de) selected and bullied by the court. NOT a jury of peers. This is reason for the idea of jury nullification.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks ???? I'm not understanding your point?
IF she was innocent and wanted her daughter found she WOULDN'T lie. In no way am I implying that she "didn't lie" as she clearly did, that was the point I was making - if you're innocent and care about your child, you wouldn't lie but she did lie. My comment above was in response to someone who claimed that "there was no proof she'd lied" yet she told cops she'd spoke to her daughter that morning despite the fact that her daughter was proven to have been long deceased when she made that claim. Not to mention her lies about working at Disney (is she crazy, she thought she could say whatever she wanted and it wouldn't be checked out - THAT'S insane) and that bloke Jason etc etc soooooo many lies - she's guilty af!!!!
P.s......I would NEVER use Wiki to support my case and I'd never look to Wiki for information 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@King JamesIX the duct tape was never found around her mouth and nose. It was found nearby. They aren't even sure it was anything to do with the child as the evidence was destroyed. It was assumed it was on Caylee as someone thought it had a heart sticker on it but it was destroyed before they could properly check. Being that it was found very close by but not on her actual body, there is no way of knowing if it was used to murder her or, for example, hold whatever she was wrapped in shut.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks thank you for such a lovely comment. I did re-read all the comments properly again which is why I better understood where you were coming from and your views on the case, which are factually correct - she is 'innocent' whether we agree with it or not. I just think it's such an injustful case that it's hard to be scientific about it instead of emotional.
I do actually aim to remember that I am not always right, there's nothing wrong in that and being wrong, that's how we learn, I don't always have to be right and I'd rather admit I'm wrong than argue for the sake of 'winning'. It was great conversing with you and I learnt a lot, thank you xx
I don't know about everybody else. But as a parent if my kid is missing even an hour. With me having no idea where she is. I am in panic mode. I am calling the cops, posting on social media, and out searching nonstop. I think they say if you don't find the missing person in 72 hours. That there is a good chance you won't. I honestly think she did it. But I am not a judge, jury, or detective. So I won't speculate saying it is guaranteed she did it.
It pisses me off because I think trying to prove murder was the last thing they should have tried. I feel she did it, but you have to PROVE things in courts. they didn't have enough evidence of the act & should have waited until they could PROVE it to charge her, or got her on something else.. That Def lawyer should be sued for defamation by the father though.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks How is talk outside of that irrelevant. You're basically saying hey corruption should be allowed, murder doesn't exist if you're not found guilty even though you've murdered someone.
I'm skimming through the video because this is super long for me to watch, first she said her child was kidnap by a nanny that doesn't exist, then agree to do an investigation. Then, they found the child corspe by a swamp with ducktape around the child nose, mouth and all, and at the end of the case they all agreed on and admit that the child already die earlier due to drowning. Does she receive a treatment therapist after this case? Is this case really about her daughter justice or about her life. So many questions that's confusing me. Why go through all of this with misleading information she provide at first? She knew what happened from the start. I'm not going further anymore with this case, this is case really is about the power of words in my opinion.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks Your comment basically says that what the court finds will always be the truth, as if no one has ever been falsely charged etc. So yes, your comment says that even if someone murders someone that they haven't actually murdered someone. It makes no sense logically.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks Nothing i've said would be ''my mistake''. Perhaps some of your comments are ''your mistake'' though. All I've done in my comments is talk about what you've said and point out the complete illogicality of the comments in question. When you say ''Your mistake is thinking that your second sentence is my position'', you're actually saying that you don't believe what you've previously stated as your opinion.
I have also never mentioned anything specifically about this case and you've decided to randomly throw the majority of your comment in there without it logically making any sense, once again. I get the impression you're trying to come across as intelligent but it's rather obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.
She's obviously very odd personality; kinda like psychopath but that being said ; just coz you're psychopath doesn't necessarily mean you're a killer. I think what happened is accident ( because of how disconnect she is with reality by her nature ) which killed her daughter; and because she got scared, then she tried to forget it by partying like crazy and then her survival instincts kicked in and tried to find way out of it. She was trying to get most out of her life to forget loss of her daughters life. That being said she clearly lied a lot. In eyes of media obviously everyone will think she killed her daughter but that's because we want justice served. You have to understand though that she always been weird personality from what we know. I think she wasn't protecting her daughter well enough to prevent accident to happen. I think she neglected her job as a parent. But I don't think she wanted to kill her despite having such a weird quirks. She should get in prison for neglect tho.
@TheFun Mugen men being found guilty of rape accusations that they did not commit, while a sad instance, is incredibly rare. men are statistically speaking, more likely to be raped themselves, than to be falsely accused or convicted of committing a rape. also, juries are randomly selected, you have no way of knowing who was on that panel or how they would have ruled in another case. you should be more concerned with a system that lets men go free when there is ample evidence they have raped someone, with a system that incarcerates mothers who have had miscarriages because of our restrictive and inhumane anti-abortion laws, with a system that has forced pre-teens that have been impregnated by rape to give birth to those children, with a system that incarcerates minorities at disproportionate rates and punishes them much more severely. this particular case is of course a tragedy but you are only using it to spout your backwards views. it is so disgustingly disrespectful to this poor child and to countless others. have some fucking taste, pal.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks 'Be the world you're in'? Worst saying I have ever heard. So accept everything and challenge nothing in life? Why do you think courts have an appeal process?
@TheFun Mugen as per your “pro choice jury will find her not guilty” , I’d like to say you are wrong . I’m pro choice and believe that early weeks of pregnancy a woman has the Chou e to continue with or terminate pregnancy. However, when it comes down to actually killing a child, I’m fist in line to find this POS guilty! Even if she was only pregnant and purposely had a miscarriage I believe she should be guilty!! Being Pro-Choice or Pro-Life has nothing to do with it 😕
@Lynda G it’s circumstantial, but her lawyer also argued that there was a time glitch on the computer or something, so the times aren’t indicative of her making those searches. Basically, the state never proved that Casey made the search.
Tanaphar Plus Masks you must not know much about this case or how she was basically caught admitting to murdering her daughter when she was vacationing in the Bahamas like 2 months after she was found innocent. Meaning she only came clean because she knew that after being found guilty she could freely admit it with no repercussions
@Fifi Thank you for your comments... As I was reading the thread I was puzzled because nooooone seemed to call this person out. This had nothing to do with rape, men getting falsely accused many many MANY times (???), abortions or I don't know what.
@Tanaphar Plus Masks unfortunately you cant start a new society without getting taxed, subjected to law, and threat of violence from the current government
@Tanaphar Plus Masks Imagine loving the taste of boots this much lol. The only way shit changes is by complaining and pointing out errors. It attracts and informs other people, and shit actually gets done. Stirring up enough noise works even when people are in the wrong... Look at cancel culture.
The defendant actually convinced the jury to act like robots instead of humans, by removing emotion from the verdict. Therefore everyone in there was not “convinced” but turned. Since when do robots claim EVIL, and humans update to the next operating system? Maybe we do
@Tanaphar Plus Masks 'What the court finds' isn't always correct. While there are so many checks and balances that are in place to try and ensure that justice is always served, it'd be stupid to try and say that they are never wrong. There are countless examples of juries being wrong. Ignoring this is insanity.
@Jesper . "just beacuse someone can smell a dead body doesnt mean that that body was a crime of murder. it only proves that it was there, not what exactly happened to it." - Really ??? I hope you know how stupid that sounds
@TheFun Mugen if any person thinks that she isn't the murderer then they are crazy no matter if they are pro-choice or pro-life. I am pro choice but it doesn't mean that I don't have the ability to see what a stupid verdict this was. My blood boils. I can't belive the jury members were so blind.
@Mastashake you can’t say she used that tape because the body was buried exactly like the pets were, which George Anthony did. The defense just poked great holes in the defense’s story. If you have doubt about one thing, you can’t convict of murder. You were watching the talking heads all day talk about it. Nothing is damning with a sequestered jury.
@caromela but explain all the lies she told the car in impound the smell from the car waiting 31 fucking days to call and when she called she was calm "I have nothing to say to them" hell I am a father and I would flip this world upside down trying to find them AND I WOULD HAVE CALLED THE COPS ASAP
I’m also very upset. Iv got a headache and can’t stop thinking about the little girl. Mother should have been given the death penalty. And if the grandparents didn’t ask about the little girl. She would not have been to court.
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Jada Sifford2020-12-21 00:39:06 (edited 2020-12-21 01:17:44 )
Exactly. We all know she killed that child and even though she thinks that she fulled everyone. She is going to have to live with that guilt for the rest of her life.
My ex and her mother did the same thing to my three children, and severely hurt my oldest son. The police and the town knew that it was planned her acting like they don't know anything about that. The kids that passed away put it on video and told the police before it happened. They still to this day are trying to put me in jail because I want them in trouble for what haven't. Even down to my family is manipulated
Jesper Innocent people are already and have been getting convicted on BS “evidence” so what are you talking about? If this was a black mom she would be rotting in prison
Part of the explanation is that in the current feminist atmosphere, the dogma that females are never perpetrators of violence is ingrained in people's minds. That idea is patently wrong, as facts prove. When facts contradict people's ideologies, they tend to double down on their beliefs. When this woman was acquitted, obviously the jury did not believe that she would murder her daughter in cold blood, presumably because females cannot be perpetrators. The only explanation that squares with that view is that she must have been really sick, thereby relieving her from any responsibility.
@Rodrigo Ramirez yep but there's a lot of scenarios where they were the ones that caused it and they get away with it. It's sickening really. I still believe that they are witches Pier at the ones that do that and get away with it
@Jesper thank you for representing my point of view (mine and certainly plenty of others) in the comments. The "innocent until proven guilty" premise is getting shaken up these days. By extension, it also applies to respecting the levels of doubt when dealing with varying degrees of offences.
They literally found a hair from Caylee in her mother's trunk that had started turning dark at the roots consistent with a dead body and they're like, "oh in the trunk?" Oh well let's forget about that.
@Eli G I'm sorry but for a jury to get this wrong is on the prosecution. You're saying this is a slam dunk. The jury didn't see it that way. Your peers didn't see it the way you did. Ask yourself why
She definitely killed her daughter. Blame the inept prosecution, not the jury for why she isn’t in jail today. If they hadn’t gone for the death penalty which has a very high burden of proof, Casey would be behind bars right now.
I think there is still a possibility she made it all up to protect herself from facing reality since that was her coping mechanism to her relationship with her father
I watched the trial and was in disbelief when she was found not guilty. However, months later, after hearing the jury and their reasoning, rewatching the trial, I realized that I agree. The evidence just wasn't there. No one knows how caylee died. Yes, we have a ton of theories but that's all they are, theories. Did she kill her on purpose? Did she kill her by accident? Did she really drown? I actually can't believe that Casey killed her, just can't imagine what she was counting on, I'm more inclined towards some accident and her being afraid to tell her mother. But none of this matters, these are all theories, there's no evidence. And the prosecution's theories didn't ring true to me. Also, as much as I despised Jose baez, he did a really good job planting doubt and reminding the jury that if they still have questions, the case was not proven. So, I'm with the jury, as much as I originally was against their decision. She's obviously a nut case and maybe killed her daughter but we have laws, that's what it comes down to.
@Jesper I don't understand how you still think this case was a good thing and proofs our system is a good one. A murderer gets off scott-free and a person gets falsely acused of rape doesn't.
@Ната after the ruling they found the google searches on casey's computer on how to suffocate someone and the little girls body. If you still think "maybe" go look into after the court ruling
@Stuff OnMyduck if my searches were pulled, I'd be on death row. They found the girl's body after the ruling? After what ruling? Those searches were presented at trial and the body was found by then. I stand by what I said, not enough evidence.
@Stuff OnMyduck i dont remember anything about a rape, sry. yes, a murderer shouldnt walk free but they should also not be imprisoned without sufficient evidence that proves BEYOND any doubts that she is is guilty. neither outcome is good but this is honestly better in the long haul. one (maybe) murderer walks free. at the same time our justice system did not risk punish any innocent person. if it starts doing that then we are headed in a bad direction
@Jesper I was talking about men being falsely accused and imprisoned with shit evidence. And I don't know about you someone who killed their child roaming free doesn't sound safe to me. What I'm saying is it's still garbage in no way is it good. But screw it if innocent people get punished like nothing why shouldn't this sociopath?
@Jesper It's not that they didn't have evidence that she either killed her or was party to her death, it's that they didn't have evidence that directly showed that Casey directly killed her. You don't need beyond a reasonable doubt evidence to convict someone, it just makes it much harder.
The mother saying that Casey's trunk smelled like a dead body at least shows that Casey was party to her death, if not directly, then indirectly. Someone with access to her home, her car, her daughter killed her. How did they get access to those things if not through Casey?
They had plenty of evidence to convict, the defense had enough room to instill doubt in the jurors. It really was the perfect case of defense vs the prosecutor.
I genuinely can't believe the defense won with the way they went about it. The whole part of the accidental drowning in the pool would have made me question his stance if I were a juror, and the whole bit of her being molested by her parents is exactly what he talked about in his closing statement, emotional manipulation with no evidence, but his closing statement did finally hit the nail on the coffin for the prosecution.
@Ната It doesn't matter if it was on accident or on purpose though. Putting tape over someone's mouth and nose after searching 'foolproof suffocation' is proof enough of intent.
If we have to have perfect evidence directly showing someone committing the murder, then pretty much no one would go to prison for murder unless it was on camera. The FBI could do a firearm trace on a firearm, find that it belonged to the primary suspect, see that he had access to the firearm and ammunition used, see that he had motive, but according to y'all, the primary suspect shouldn't be convicted of murder because there's no evidence showing them committing the murder. Someone could have stolen his firearm and ammo and brought it back after conveniently killing the person the suspect had a grudge against.
@AnCap Asuka it wasn't proven that she did any of it. And in your example, that alone isn't enough evidence. They didn't prove intent in her case. Sort of, kind of, but as I said, I still have questions. Jury did too. The prosecution's motive (that she wanted to kill her daughter so she can go out to clubs) didn't make sense to me. And the entire case falls apart because no one can say why she would want to kill her daughter. Yes, motive isn't part of the required elements but without it and with shaky evidence, there are issue with the case. The body was found too late and the cause of death couldn't be determined. Also, the way it was found was suspicious. The search party story was suspicious. Scott Peterson was convicted on circumstantial evidence but in his case, there are no questions. In her case there are. Actually, I was much more convinced of her guilt before the trial. But when I heard the closing, I started to see his point. I don't believe the defense's story either but he had a lot of good points. Prosecution messed up here, that's all. Left room for doubt. And he was able to instill that doubt in the minds of the jury.
@Mateo Hodge probably so. That's why a good lawyer can make or break a case. Jose baez turned out to be very good. He went on to win 10 (i think) large cases with almost no losses. This cannot be an accident (winning Casey's only could've been written off as an accident, stroke of good luck). He's good. As much as I don't like him.
@Ната It can't be shown that anyone else had access to the child, her car, or her home, she couldn't name anyone who took the child after her initial claim was proven false. They absolutely showed that her death was ruled a homicide and that she had tape around her air passages after she had searched for 'suffocation' two different ways. People have been put away after having less evidence of intent.
Her motive makes sense, she was a young girl dating someone who got to go to clubs and party at night, she had a child and had a responsibility to care for that child and couldn't go out like that. After losing her child, she did engage in the party life, even getting a tattoo. The flagrant disregard for her child's well-being shows that she lied about searching for her by herself. If she had already exhausted her attempts to where she had given up and partied, she should have gotten other people involved.
There's always questions in these cases, that doesn't mean the defendant should always be not guilty. Saying you don't have any questions about pretty much any other case kind of shows to me a bias. There's always unanswered questions.
@AnCap Asuka she didn't have to name anyone. The police have to prove their case, she has no legal obligation to help. At least 2 people had access to the home. She had access to the car but it wasn't proven that the body was there. The science they tried using was innovative and I guess the jury didn't accept it. The manner of death was ruled a homicide only because of duct tape, otherwise, the coroner couldn't tell. And the cause of death was undetermined. Tape around the passages was her opinion, though an educated one. There was only a skeleton left.
But none of this matters. None of this proves that she did it. Yes, most likely but too many questions. The clubs and stuff is definitely weird but here I'm buying the defense's story, she was fucked up in the head from childhood and acted and thought different than others.
To me the motive makes no sense. To you it does. It's a matter of opinion.
The prosecution didn't do a good job here, the defense did. That's what it comes down to.
@Stuff OnMyduck what makes you even bring that up? Why would that justify someone else getting falsely convicted. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. I despise when people get wrongfully accused/convicted. I also don’t like it when someone walks free when they shouldn’t, although it is better than having an unreliable system. You guys misinterpret all I’m saying and bring other things up so there is no point in answering anymore. I’ve said mine. Nice chatting with yoy
@Jesper exactly two wrongs don't make a right. You should get mad at people being falsely accused AND people guilty of somthing not get charged anything. In no scenario is she innocent. My point is, just because she was found not guilty doesn't mean she was innocent or not involved. And that's the fault of the shitty prosecutor *AND THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM*. People like you though for some foresaken reason only believe the lady is just weird and had no involvement in the child's death whatsoever. You could give less of a shit about the poor child. You just want to support the lady and her party life (did you know she was planning on making a movie about how amazing her partying life was during her childs death?)
@Stuff OnMyduck I'm not protecting her at all. I'm saying that the prosecution didn't do a good job and defense did. I'm with the jury: she is guilty of something but not sure exactly of what.
@Ната exactly you're agreeing with the defendant if your not agreeing with the prosecutor. Which the whole point of one is to prove someone's innocence. Defendant: "You don't have proof she did it. There's some really highly suspicious activity, but nothing you can proof are linked because you need MORE evidence" You and the jury: "You're right. She probably didn't do anything. Alright stay happy and enjoy the rest of your life! What do you mean the little girls death? Ah whatever she's already dead"
@Stuff OnMyduck yes. That's exactly how the system works. The prosecution has to prove it. I like that system. If I ever end up charged with something, I like that people aren't going to be guessing, that there has to be proof.
@Ната I didn't want it to get personal but I want you to understand what people are coming from. Also I understand this is different from humans but still.
Let's say I am a dog sitter for your dogs. You come back for them and I tell you I have no idea where they are. You freak out and call the cops. Then I change the story and say somebody took them but I still don't know where they are. Im a suspect because I was last with them. Turns out the person I mentioned doesn't exist. My lawyer says there's no proof that I did somthing to your dogs. Investigators finds there corpses in a lake with ducktape around there muzzles. They also find I was searching "how to kill pets". My lawyer says it could've been an accident or it was delibrate but there is still no proof of either. I end up walking off free only charged with lying. Im free to go own a dog or dog sit for anyone. What would you think? I'm obviously guilty of neglect OR SOMETHING and you would want me to get punished. But guess what? No proof I did anything. I just smile and whistle away. Does that still sound correct or understandable?
@Ната would you still be happy I'm a free man? I mean your dogs are dead. You're probably your morning/depressed. But I'm actually as happy as I can be. I'm obviously guilty of somthing. Does it seem like a good system?
@Stuff OnMyduck there's no perfect system, this is the best available. You either end up locking up a bunch of innocent people (and it's already happening) or you let some guilty loose. You don't have to give me examples for the mentally challenged, I understand what was written above 500 times. I just don't agree.
Scott Peterson's case was also circumstantial, but there are no questions left about his case, guilty, killed his wife because he wanted to be with the gf and didn't want the baby. There was proof that he wasn't happy about the pregnancy and all kinds of proof that he was planning a life with his gf. So even though there was no evidence of the murder, he was convicted and rightly so.
In her case, to me, there's no clear cut story. She, by all accounts, was a good mother, like all young people, wanted to go out but people don't kill their kids because of that. Searches don't mean much, I search all kinds of stuff. And she wasn't the only one who had access to the computer. Also, forensics had issues with the time stamps and how many times it was search, time spent on each page, etc. The cause of death wasn't proven.
Something happened with her daughter. What exactly - no one knows, people can only guess. You're saying she suffocated her, others were saying she gave her too much xanax and the duct tape was there so that she didnt make noise in the trunk while she was out partying. The other theory is the drowning. There are many. The point is that no one knows. And you cannot convict someone on first degree murder if you don't know. Maybe if the prosecution chose a different charge and a different strategy for the case, it would've worked.
@Stuff OnMyduck what does my happiness or lack of have to do with the system? No matter what system is used, there will always be wrongful convictions and people getting away with crime. Someone will always be unhappy. What's your point? We have laws and they have to be followed. You don't like the laws and the current system - offer something better, go to the legislators and get it passed. The current system is that is has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. It wasn't.
@Digger Gardi I don't think you understand what a cold case is. She can never be tried again for this death, no matter what emerges. I'm not saying that's good, but that's how it is. If the evidence emerges, I will be the first one to agree that she is guilty. But she will not go to trial for it, double jeopardy will apply.
I'm not defending her, she's def guilty of something, I just don't know what exactly she did.
And what alibi? This isnt about an alibi, they didn't know what happened or when, alibi plays no part here.
@Ната my point? My point is to stop people like you from thinking this should be the norm. If you just sit and accept it nothing will change. Innocent people will get arrested. Guilty people will be free. You're a fool if you think one person can change an entire system.
@Stuff OnMyduck I'm ok with the system. It worked like it was supposed to. She is guilty of something, everyone agrees on that, the jury too. But what exactly - no one knows, everyone just has their own theories. And we cannot convict people on theories.
You want her convicted and you're willing to change the system. But people like you don't realize that one day it might be you that's on trial. And that's when you will wish that theories and guesses aren't accepted in court.
@Jason Adams the jury didn't say she's innocent. They just said that the case wasn't proven but they feel that she's guilty of something. I agree with that formulation. Also, the case was broadcasted, I doubt the jury heard anything that the public did not hear.
@Ната I didn't say she did have to, but if she were to not know who took her child, there's no sign of a break-in, at the very least she can be charged with neglect. Two people had access to the home, her and her boyfriend. The body was hidden, so the pool story doesn't make sense, the body was wrapped in a blanket which would have been in the house or car, and since the body had to have been transported, the evidence of the mother smelling death in the trunk is enough to fit the circumstances.
The tape was on her head, not used to hold the blanket around her, it's not like the tape was on the blanket and somehow ended up on her head, that doesn't make any sense, there's no reason for the tape on the body if not to block her air.
You keep saying you have questions, but you have yet to say what those questions are. I have questions about many killers and terrorists who were convicted of their crimes, that doesn't mean they didn't do it. The prosecution had plenty of evidence to convict, the defense used her sociopathy to have her lie and cause confusion among the jury, there's no evidence that she died of drowning in a pool, there's no evidence Casey was abused as a child, yet they managed to drop those in on the jury and then told them to only listen to what is known, but they did it in a way that disparaged the prosecution rather than the defense. The jury had enough to convict, they just didn't.
It doesn't matter if it was her or her boyfriend who actually put hands on her to kill her, she was party to it in some manner, there's no scenario where she isn't.
How are you saying there's no evidence on the prosecution side, yet you believe the defense story which has literally no evidence for any of it. You're clearly coming from a position of bias. If you were actually objective, you'd not say that.
Reading these replies I am baffled at the people defending this verdict. Throwing arguments like "they didn't prove anything" "reasonable doubt". Casey had proven means, motive, and opportunity. There have been MANY cases with the same situation or less that have brought in a guilty verdict with this system working. If you are defending the verdict you could be convinced of anyone's innocence because of your misunderstanding of reasonable doubt and a lack of logic. Yes, you should be convicted with circumstantial evidence and people do any the system is made to convict people with circumstantial evidence. Just because a piece of evidence in circumstantial does not mean you throw it out. The jury was swayed by a defense attorney and Caylee was failed to the point people defend her mother and the system that failed her. Shame.
@John Charles if you can prove your incense you won't be jailed. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that innocent people don't end up in jail and guilty people roam free, it's just how well they presented their case. Hence I said that
@Jesper She did not know or care where her child was for over a month while she partied and got tattoo and began her new life. She showed no emotions towards recovering and finding her daughter. She searched suffocation and smothering on the day her child went missing and was found suffercated. She lied about her daughters baby sitters. She consistently lied and took the police to a place she worked years ago, then just laughed and said she was lying. She never offered the police any help in their investigation and offered nothing to suggest she was innocent. Is this now a free woman? its an absolute disgrace. She accused her father of child abuse to try and get off?
shes socially ostracized though. she did spend a few years in jail. she had to declare bankruptcy with the cost of the search. there was also a law called caylees law enacted in several states because of this case.
How she got away with this is absolutely absurd, disgusting and complete reflection on the justice system. Shame on her and the jury.. I wonder if the jury on this case "sleeps pretty well at night"?.. hope they don't. We're talking about a 3 year old for god's sake! NO mother would act like this if not guilty. Wtf!? Disgusting she's walking free with a smile on her face sleeping well at night. God bless you Caylee.
seriously... I HATE this justice system. it’s so disappointing and heart breaking for caylee 😞
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John Charles2020-12-29 23:13:26 (edited 2020-12-29 23:17:23 )
@Collin Phiri that's not what you said, and either way you're just trying to get out of the fact that what you said is objectively wrong. I don't know what made you think that's how you spell innocent but it also lets me know just how experienced you really are with law and how you're just repeating something your dad or a teacher said that you have no real understanding of how it works in the real world. If you don't get why what you said is wrong, it's because you're not there to prove your innocence they are there to prove your guilt you're supposed to be innocent till proven guilty so why do you need to prove your innocence. You don't need to prove your innocence you just need to prove Reasonable Doubt. There was no reasonable doubt that she at the very minimum was responsible for her daughter's death when the police asked her how does it help us find your daughter to tell us all these lies for a month she admits "it doesn't." So why would she not want the police to find her daughter there is only one thing that's reasonable... she killed her.
@Collin Phiri so first you say it's not what you know it's what you can prove in court....then you say the defense has to prove their innocence that the prosecutors don't have to prove their guilt because how else would innocent people get put in jail if that's how it really worked. this proves what you said is a myth. You realize that you just made both of those points in unison and acted like they meant the same thing when they are the exact opposite. Why would they have to prove their innocence if the prosecutor can't prove their guilt it's not what you know it's what you can prove in court I thought u said? But it's a myth clearly...
I know its no ethical or right to get invested into cases like this but this shit was the dumbest shit server your right and it pissed me off to man...
@John Charles hold on there dude, you don't know me so don't start making assumptions. If there's no "reasonable doubt" how is it she won the case? Clearly you didn't take time to understand what I said but rather you jumped right in to respond
She got away with it because the degraded evidence left room for doubt as to whether she did it or someone in her family did it, which was the defence's argument if I remember it correctly. If they had found the body sooner before the evidence degraded it may have been different but yeah she does appear to have gotten away with murder, or at best covering up an accident like a drowning or something. There was really just the evidence of that tape combined with her behavior and really that behavior is what we are all upset about because that's what makes us feel certain she's guilty.
@Jesper It is proven, it's just that prosecution didn't put forward their evidences properly. The duct tape, the Google search, body in the trunk for a couple of days (even if she drowned, nothing explains keeping the body in the trunk for that long, also where did the duct tape come in that case?). The diary, what she did later (no sign of sadness, if she actually saw her kid die, and was lying to herself, she would be in pain!) If she saw her daughter drown, what explains her Google search "foolproof suffocation"? That makes no sense. There is proof, the jury is not able to put together and understand the scenario, the prosecution didn't put forward it in the best way.
Being pissed off about it and shouting in social media is exactly what got her off the hook though. If this case had not been blown up by media, that defense lawyer would have had absolutely nothing to derail the jury from all the other evidence pointing to only her being able to kill her child. Simply stunning what he did, and that the jury fell for it, but that's the world we live in now.
@Kitty Kat i understand what you are saying, and i thought about that the same way at first. Like a big part of this comment section is saying and you to, it seems very obvious that she killed her daughter. But like a lot of people said, you cant prove her guilty from her strange behavior and lies continuesly trough the investigations. Im sure that the judges (or at least some of them) that voted her unguilty didnt do that simply out of stupidity. I think that if you have a job like the judges or those investigators, you learn and you know that you just cant decide whether someone is guilty or not just by listening to what you think and what you find logical. Youve gotta come up with diehard prove. When someone only judges by their experience, intuition and feeling then their is a way bigger change of making mistakes. At least in this scenario. Im not trying to say that your totally wrong. Im also sure that she killed her daughter and its really sad to see her getting away with such a crime....
@Jesper exactly man, this happend a lot in the past. When you have real prove, the least mistakes will be made. A lot of people have been misjudged in the past, mostly because their wasnt enough evidence in the end. This sometimes even caused unguilty people to stay in jail for the rest of their lives. I personally find it really sad to see someone get a way with such a crime, but its not the fault of the judges because they probably decided by the evidence that was given, but there wasnt any really😑
@gabi OK so you get to kill your child before it's born and a father has no say. Personally I think that's a crime against humanity. If women have the choice to not have a child and kill it. Then is fathers should have the choice to not want to be in the child's life. However this conversation doesn't really need to be in this comment section.
@Digger Gardi no, I'm pretty sure no matter what evidence emerges she cannot be tried again. The only thing is, I think that law is on a state by state basis. I would have to check fl law
just because we have know. the fact the state brought a poor case is the problem. had the jury given a guilty verdict it would create implication in the future that none of us want. a case closed without a solid conclusion
I agree not enough evidence on this crime they say Bolney the car - she goes on partying after the fact her composer no grief what so ever she did it and she got away with it periode no one else committed this crime and how she got out of it is beyond me evidence her car should have gave them a huge clue ..
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robert gibson2021-01-01 02:28:07 (edited 2021-01-01 04:25:43 )
@nikolas it's the prosecution not the jury at fault.... Her lawyer made a good argument... Keep in mind the jury didn't get to see her interrogations... How she didn't get found guilty of negligence I'll never know...the proof of that was 31 days no report.... But can totally see why not guilty of murder etc...even though I "know" (think) she did it....as I have so many questions about this? It's the biggest flaw in the system is prosecution present hypotheses/theory as facts...instead of doing what they supposed to be doing (finding out what happened)... To gain conviction*...That's all that matters to prosecution. Cops try to fined out what happened. But are constantly trying to trap you, truth gets so distorted who knows what actually happened? Only her and anyone else involved... Fact of the matter is, it was a big mistake by the cop at start in thinking he didn't need confession... It is "obvious" to *assume her guilt but proving it is different matter. You know what they say about those who "ass u me ". From this did they prove she did it? In your mined?.... For me the answer is no. I'm still no clear on what happend... I mean the prosecution case is she did it to be "20+ and free" That's no motive.. She lived with her parents she could have just left the child with her parents...?... Possibley she was abused? This then opens more questions and possibilities.... Prosecution / investigators fails to prove she did it no doubt... I hope I'm understood. Now We will never ever know what happened because of the failure of the state...officials... She has no need to tell all.
@Jesper glad to see someone else that knows the difference between thinking and knowing for a fact. Definitely a dangerous game to play giving up the burden of proof.
It was a failure by the investigator/prosecution... After all who knows, it may have been??? And she "protecting"... I always feel slightly dissatisfied at prosecution explanations....because they always nothing more than theory without confession. Just best geuss as evidence *suggests*.
@Digger Gardi no, just checked. Cannot be tried again for the same crime. Only 2 exceptions are, if the crime is different and a different jurisdiction can try you for the same crime. Though I'm not sure how this works, maybe if the crime was committed in multiple jurisdictions.
@Kitty Kat that's not evidence of anything other than she lies. This don't prove murder, How you know it wasn't the boyfriend or grandfather etc...?
Loads of people lie about the dumbest things, some of them confess to crimes they didn't commit.. I'm in no way saying she is innocent... Just that's not proof guilt.
I wonder how many innocent people would be jaild and guilty go free using your logic. Well you lied about that so your a???
@Michal Satin I I know it's your choice (no pun intended) but o would like to sway you to pro choice. I totally agree with depends on how you define "life", however pro choice is the only choice (pun intended) how many children are in foster homes? How many children get abused by people who don't only not want to be parents they shouldn't be. The pro choice pros far out wagh the negative.... The negatives far out wagh the pro life pro. Pro life= all negative realy no pro to it.
Fun fact: she’s currently trying to start a private investigation firm to profit off of her situation. Absolute bullshit that stuff like this slides in the law system. Instead of people getting what they deserve, they benefit from their crimes. Ridiculous.
@One Punch Flan it's rarely no choice to father. And your whole argument is invalid. What gives you the right to force anyone to do something they don't want to? Do you know how many children are abused by parents that not only don't want to be parents they shouldn't be. Can't afford to be etc... How many kids in foster homes etc... Any idea of the damage that causes to a "life". Question are you pro death penalty?
@Howling Eclipse what's obvious? she is a liar that's all that's obvious. How you know it's wasn't....?..... And she covering. I'm positive she knows what happened I'm not positive she did it...the prosecution fails to prove the narrative "20+ and free" . It infact don't make scenes. Why kill why not just leave with parents? They both staying at parents already. Bringing me to think it's possible she telling some truth with the abuse... How you know it's not her dad or etc? We will never know what really happened.
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robert gibson2021-01-01 05:01:59 (edited 2021-01-03 03:10:56 )
@Chimene unfortunately that's fantasy.
For the very last comment you made to me... I am unable to reply... I have been silenced.... It's unfortunate as I would like to continue that line of conversation.... I know you will not see this...to be honest I have not looked at the subject in detail for a long time...if you define "god" it makes this conversation well easier. You Buddhist Christian that's a new one for me... That's the problem with religions Cherry picking that's how we ended up with diverse Christianity in first place.. Divers religion really. We sun worshipers... At end of the day.... And at beginning of all religion lol
@Ната #1 UK law is basis for us law. #2 I'm familiar with both and couldn't remember if us followed suit. Thanks though for clarification.
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Michal Satin2021-01-01 08:52:00 (edited 2021-01-01 08:52:27 )
@robert gibson Thanks man. After my previous comment studied about it a bit becise i was not satysfied with my lack of opinion. And yes i understand what you mean and i agree. I dont think that you are allways obliged to save a life no matter the cost (like donating your organs, paying all of your money or something like that). Also the problem with foster homes (what to do with kids after they are born). And in the end i still don't think that life begins at conception so these arguments are a bit useless because its again very hard to draw the line.
@Chimene again unfortunately that's fantasy. What was "life" like before you wer born? It's the same in death. Free will? Non argument what free will did that child have? Why is a child born with disabilities? Why me Etc... Again we don't have all the facts.
@Chimene you miss the point..your explanation gives the opportunity to etc.... You are the one devoid of reality... That's the point. Materialistic? What gives that impression... Couldn't be farther from the truth.
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robert gibson2021-01-01 16:03:09 (edited 2021-01-01 16:26:01 )
@Chimene I infact am a very reasonable person. This is why I don't accept god hypotheses. I'm against religion. You provide excuse rather than explanation. So for instance saying she 😈 takes out the need for why? Why she done it matters. How she did it matters. If she did it MATTERS. Etc... Punishment/treatment matters here on earth. Death is nothingness.
@Chimene another example if "god" and "heaven" exist what did she do that was wrong? She sent her child to "heaven" or do you go to "hell" if you're murderd? Why punish at all on earth? She ensuring "eternal bliss in heaven" for her innocent child....see the point I'm making?
@AnCap Asuka no one had access to her home? She lived with her parents.
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robert gibson2021-01-01 18:55:06 (edited 2021-01-01 19:01:52 )
@Michal Satin yes for me and I'm sure the law it's first breath defines "life". I do however think there's a point of no return, before birth. And shouldn't be done without full consultation (options). By no way in my opinion do "life" start at conception. If that was the case I'd ask the person making that point...who is responsible for still birth? I fully understand you understand my point..the fact you reinforce my point of what to do with unwanted kids...tells me this. The funny thing about this is those that argue "morality" often are the most immoral people.
If shes not in prison anyone paid too much for it...
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robert gibson2021-01-01 22:20:31 (edited 2021-01-01 22:53:53 )
The more I think about this case she'd need to have the worst lawyer in the world to be convicted of murder. She may be the coldest most calculated murderer ever...the state screwd the case big time... She was way to smart for the cops and prosecution. Had them 2 steps may have been 5 steps behind the whole time. Those cops and prosecution were the ones that wer naive. She had me too....I thought she was dumb lol...if she done it she is sharp as a razor.... And pland it all methodically... Those prosecutors should be sacked! For gross incompetents. And the cops need re training.
You know why she laugh out loud at universal? She can't believe her luck they letting her waist time.....to the absolute fullest.
A phone call could have taken 3 minutes to discredit...but they went TV show on it....Let's visit with you...I starting to think those cops are part of pedo ring.....why allow the shirad? Ether incompetents or involved.
@Ната was thinking more on the subject of double jeopardy... It must be reformed in US too...why else wouldn't OJ or woman here not just Wright a tell all? Make a fortune can't be charged with murder again? Why not?...Can't be charged with much other than obstruction / perjury. What's to stop the state going for those charges now? Why did prosecution try for murder? Why not negligence and build later a case of murder... Those are two separate crimes.
@robert gibson I'm not sure. From 1 point of view, if the person is obviously guilty, he got away. From another point. If someone is innocent and he spent years and tons of money and nerves fighting the crime, is found not guilty and then to start the process over... cruel
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robert gibson2021-01-01 23:48:04 (edited 2021-01-01 23:51:35 )
@Ната I agree with you on loads of points you made here..throughout this comment section...I fully understand why someone innocent wouldn't want to go through it again...and why we have/had double jeopardy law in first place...to stop people being convicted of crime they didn't commit. it is infact a crime to imprison falsely... Double jeopardy ment if you accuse me I had better have done it... For instance my wife runs off you say I killed her I go jail she turns up I'm released I kill wife no jail I done my time..get my point?
@Ната "she didn't have to name anyone." nope, mother of 2 years old kids should be able to answer the question who is taking care of her kid. Only someone heartless can watch all this evidence and say that he is not sure if she should end up in jail... and that is my beat why she was able to win her freedom, jury also wanted to be free...
@Ната not if time is served. Lol yes I remember the movie.... The crime can't be tried again.... And would be thrown out so fast you'd not see it for dust....how can you be sure the person done it....that was your point being flung back at you lol....was the point of asking original question.
@Biały I'm talking about by law. She didn't have to name anyone or do anything at all. Heartless has nothing to do with it, juries aren't allowed to bring emotions into their decisions. The evidence wasn't there. To convict someone of murder, you have to prove HOW the victim died. This wasn't proven.
@Ната ps the movie is named after the law double jeopardy. She is being charged under the law murder. Hope I'm understood.
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robert gibson2021-01-02 01:12:45 (edited 2021-01-02 01:13:37 )
@Ната sorry my bad...I know what you mean...the point you made is that "imagine being innocent and being tried twice" etc.. My question was why not tell all...if OJ can't be tried?... "Obvious can be" well that's contradiction... The actual law double jeopardy... is like I said you got to be sure! You can't just go half ass accusations. The reason OJ can't do tell all is that they would charge him with a different degree of murder..... Plus perjury etc....
Gibson of course, and guilty people will hide behind that law. He will never tell all because he will be tried again. Though isn't he already locked up for robbery? But I think the law was written to protect the innocent first. At least that's my hope.
@Biały you think this circumstantial evidence proves murder? Please explain?
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robert gibson2021-01-02 01:47:57 (edited 2021-01-02 02:29:36 )
@Ната oh aye it's definitely for the innocent.... this leads to my original post and point...it's the investigator and more to the point the prosecution that's at fault in both these cases.... They assume they got there guy so don't investigate other possible avenue... If the charge her for negligence that's the charge that would stick...now you have time to build case for x...what ever the charge may be....and justice may have been carried out....
But the prosecution too often successfully convict without hard evidence. This is the problem.. And why double jeopardy was created.to prevent inoccent being tried the first time..it's not supposed to get to court if you innocent. It's the prosecution job to go after the crime of x....cops gather information "evidence" the prosecution decide what changes to bring forward. And because they used to getting conviction with less circumstantial evidence. This is actually an example of a good jury than good defence...a poor lawyer would get her off this charge, Presented the way it was.
@robert gibson yeah I know)) she was charged with murder but under the double jeopardy law or clause or whatever it is, couldn't be charged again when she actually killed him (did she actually kill him or just wanted to? Can't remember, been a while)
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robert gibson2021-01-02 02:39:54 (edited 2021-01-02 02:51:18 )
@Ната just to be clear... Double jeopardy was created to prevent inoccent being tried at all...(The first time)....if you inoccent you shouldn't be at court in first place....Burdon of proof. And the worst thing you can do if you innocent is talk to the police.... It only helps them build circumstantial evidence against you...if you a witness to a crime that's different but you have to be an actual witness you know what happend... No good if you in as "witness" if you have no idea. Best to stay quite... Give nothing... Anything you think might be useful to them probably is in case against you...
@robert gibson no, double jeopardy was created to prevent retrials after acquittal. Burden of proof is there to hopefully avoid convictions of innocent. Miranda laws are there to help the innocent not give incriminating statements. And grand jury is there to prevent indictments, if the proof is not there. There are a bunch of mechanisms in place that are supposed to protect the innocent at every step.
@Jesper I absolutely understand what you’re saying. So there is evidence which would be proven to be fact and there is circumstantial evidence which is not proven to be fact at all. This is one case that I would say there is beyond enough circumstantial evidence to prove guilt. That being said, 99.9% of Convictions are based upon circumstantial evidence and should have been found innocent and not sent to prison. It Hass to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt and most citizens are ignorant the jury pool is ignorant and doesn’t even comprehend what that means. Everything is against the American citizens, from the patrol officers to the detectives to the prosecutors to the Jury and the fact that it cost money to run a jail if it is funded by the government and it’s profitable if it is privately owned is a big factor in everything working against us.
@Ната for instance if you trying to convict for murder... Of x... But all you know is evidence of disappearance... It may be the case I did kill... X....but I didn't murder..x..do you know the difference?...
@robert gibson double jeopardy? No, how can it prevent you from being tried the first time? It is only there to prevent another retrial. I'm assuming it was written for the innocent people. The people that wrote it realized that innocent people will be arrested and tried sometimes and wanted to at least minimize their problems by assuring that after the "not guilty" verdict they're left alone forever. And no overzealous DA can continue to go after them. It does happen, for whatever reason, the law enforcement people want to keep prosecuting someone. This is there so that it doesn't happen. Your logic, that someone on trial is automatically guilty, is flawed. No one is guilty until found so in court. And while innocent people should never end up in court, it does happen. The system takes that into consideration. That's why we have trials. If it was as you say "arrested, then guilty", we wouldn't need trials at all.
@robert gibson so, whats the point? There has to be evidence of murder. Mere disappearance isn't enough to convict.
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robert gibson2021-01-02 03:30:36 (edited 2021-01-02 04:30:56 )
@Ната no think about it...prevention/deterrent of taking you (inoccent) to court..the law double jeopardy makes it law you can't try it again..it's not prevention that's inability.... It was designed to stop ✋ prosecution from from rushing to conclusions. And bring false charges. take the law murder it don't stop you from killing it stops you doing it again... Jail is the prevention/deterrent.... Murder is a specific crime...to murder you must plan it.....Otherwise it's not murder under the law definition.
robert gibson2021-01-02 04:43:19 (edited 2021-01-02 05:31:11 )
@Ната that's the point....disappearance... Dont prove murder... Dead body don't prove murder... Killd dead body...still not proof of murder.... Murder requires intent...planing....Here in no way was proof of murder.... We know she died...we know something went wrong... We dont know if she murderd her daughter... For all we know an accident happened not even involving mother...and she panic... So many avenues Un checked...was it possible that she is guilty of manslaughter... And inoccent of murder... Etc... That's what double jeopardy is to prevent.. Got to try "me" for the correct crime... I got him the gun I'm guilty of illegal distribution of gun...not guilty of the murder etc.....Otherwise gun shops are responsible for all murder/manslaughter committed by guns they sold...and the actual murderer / killer could still be free...I hope you understand the point.
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robert gibson2021-01-02 07:37:27 (edited 2021-01-02 07:39:56 )
@Hypeman 18 lol you fool "she did it" what??...did she do?
@Hypeman 18 yes you *feel*...you have no clue what happened... The possibility is endless..... You need to have a specific crime... Can't just go round putting folk in jail because you *feel*....
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robert gibson2021-01-02 14:26:09 (edited 2021-01-02 14:29:46 )
@Hypeman 18 oh and you correct "shot on the dark" do you know what that means. You are guessing... And spot on with "idk" you don't know why you want to jail her....
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robert gibson2021-01-02 14:35:32 (edited 2021-01-02 14:46:43 )
@Hypeman 18 the "let her baby sit your kids" you know how dumb that is?..... If there's nothing else, she is guilty of is negligence of her child.... Let's put all the neglectors in jail for murder? This your solution?
@Hypeman 18 you obviously don't know the law.....is killing someone murder? Because that's what she was being tried for.....murder... I say it's more than possible she killd her child but murder? Is it possible she covering? Yes... Etc...etc...Let's hope you never accused with you on jury.
@robert gibson Well if being negligent was to the point that for a MONTH your kid is gone and dies before any police are called then yeah... go to prison and throw away the key😂😂😂. For one she either killed or knew that her daughter had died and like with most of her life... tried to get out of it.
@Hypeman 18 yes I agree I THINK... You Think.... We all think.....but what do you KNOW?...if she had a bad lawyer she still would have walked.... The circumstantial evidence was presented poorly.....they didn't do there job properly. End off....we will never know what happend.
@Hypeman 18 how do we know she was aware? For those 31 days? How do you KNOW she didn't leave child with... x... these questions are unanswered.... The fact is possible her dad.... She could have been being manipulated, etc...etc.... The investigators never even explore the possibility...you the guy that's it.....no other possible... Wrong....this is why OJ walked too.
@Hypeman 18 your correct except not excuse... Explanation.... There's a difference.... Man the argument... Hitler evil....Isn't explaining anything...... The reason for me saying this now is...if we just dismiss REASONS... How do you stop it happening again?
@Hypeman 18 here's the reason for behaviour.... (best Guess)... Her dad has been abusing her like the defence states..(hypothetical)...she is keeping secret her dad and her wer abusing child....dad accidently kill child....etc..etc...etc...now you want to convict her of murder? Keep in mined I'm talking murder as defined..in law...what she was charged with.... See the point yet?
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robert gibson2021-01-02 16:27:15 (edited 2021-01-02 16:28:37 )
@Hypeman 18 keep in mind you letting the actual perpetrator go free is the point.
robert gibson2021-01-02 16:34:49 (edited 2021-01-02 16:35:57 )
@Hypeman 18 look up..in this thread.....like I sad before.... I explain that....she is wasting time..... The cops at fault here...3 minute phone call would have discredited... She can't believe her luck... To smart for them.... Now that don't prove she killd anyone.... It proves only that she is a lier...and will lie to no end....that don't mean she did what your accusing....
@Hypeman 18 you still don't see why?... I think...she did it too...but I'm not prepared to send a lifetime victim to prison for crime she not guilty of...while the actual perpetrator is free to continue.
@robert gibson I have 0 doubt that she either helped or did it herself. Only a person trying to not get locked up would have done everything she did.
An honest person genuinely seeking their child would have done the OPPOSITE of everything she did.
Lying to police is also AGAINST THE LAW in it of itself
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robert gibson2021-01-02 16:51:34 (edited 2021-01-02 16:55:10 )
@Hypeman 18 Bro you are the problem..... Dont jump to conclusions..... Without all the facts....you making same mistake as prosecution and investigers..... How many "obviously guilty" people we know for fact now are innocent? (actually look it up).... You are totally ignorant of reason......
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robert gibson2021-01-02 16:54:22 (edited 2021-01-02 22:50:59 )
@Hypeman 18 "SHE DID IT" did you witness it....?.... What did she do????? How did she do it??? Why did she do it????? If you not got point yet you never will....
you think god will punish her for it? Lol if that is common sense... I will stick with plain old sense.
@robert gibson I WITNESSED her lying to police and giving them FALSE LEADS.. something someone who's VERY GUILTY and is trying to cover their tracks would do.
My point is better than yours 😂😂😂. The mother is lying and giving false leads.. SHADY AF for someone who wants to find her kid.
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robert gibson2021-01-02 17:03:58 (edited 2021-01-02 17:08:15 )
@Hypeman 18 yes she guilty of laying...That's not a crime.... Only if in court...the point is she may be involved in much more than you "think" and that's the point.. You think. Police allowed the time waste...she cant be done for that..they a did that too (Accomplish) . Etc. Etc...Bro a crap lawyer would rip this case a new one!
@robert gibson Ever heard of "OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE" lying to police and detectives during an INVESTIGATION is a CRIME!!..
Ya know why??.. cause telling them that the kidnapper is someone who DOESN'T EXIST is a waste of their time and man power that could be better spent on honest leads.
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robert gibson2021-01-02 17:13:03 (edited 2021-01-02 17:15:05 )
@Hypeman 18 I'm beginning to think your her dad lol...you want her to take the fall so bad... I personally want to know what happened? It definitely appears you to close to the case..to be objective.
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robert gibson2021-01-02 17:16:47 (edited 2021-01-02 17:25:40 )
@Hypeman 18 lol no it isn't... How many people in jail for laying to police?
@robert gibson I imagine her dad had enough common sense to realize his daughter lying to police about their granddaughters disappearance didn't sit well with him😂😂😂😂
I'm beginning to think your her boyfriend who's loyalty is undying LMAO. "Just cause she lied and created false leads... doesn't mean that she had anything to do with it!!.. makes perfect sense for a mother to send police on waste of time searches!".
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robert gibson2021-01-02 17:18:25 (edited 2021-01-02 17:28:10 )
@Hypeman 18 the crime is obstruction...she didn't obstruct...she led them were they asked her to go....see the fucking point yet.....
@Hypeman 18 I'm not defending her at ALL...learn to read... I'm defending the law.... Masive difference.... I'm defending YOUR rights....I hope to??? You never accused of a crime you didn't do....you in for a big shock If you are.
It's because she's a woman. You get dumb people who think there's more to it or something. Like she lied to police, made up the nanny which wasted their time, googled foolproof suffocation techniques, car smelled like dead body, body was found less than a mile away from the house.. yet she walks free lol.
The U.S court system is such a joke. Had this been a dad.. i promise you that man would be serving life for atleast negligence and lying to detectives.
@robert gibson You also aren't spelling correctly either lol. She broke laws when she lied to detectives during their search. Which in it of itself is an immediate red flag when coming from the MOTHER OF THE MISSING CHILD.
Again.. shout out to Rachell Buffet.. who DID serve time because she lied to detectives during their investigation.. who unlike Casey.. didn't even openly admit to it.
@Hypeman 18 I'll ask you this how do you prove something you didn't do? You can't.... This is why it's the burden of the prosecution to provide proof... You did it....Can't prove a negative....
@Captainmac 100 Yupp big facts.. it's because she's a woman that she's getting leniency. You get SIMPS like robert over here who for some reason wants to play devils advocate for a woman lying to police while looking for her own daughter.. totally not suspicious at all.
@robert gibson You can prove that she LIED to investigators which in it of itself is AGAINST THE LAW. Something Rachel Buffet did and was actually punished for.
@robert gibson Wtf no she wasted their time with giving them lies and non existent leads. Which is against the law during an investigation. Wtf is wrong with you?
@Captainmac 100 it possible it was the dad (grandfather)....etc..ect..ect...the prosecution fails to look for what actually happened... They have hypotheses and just ran with it.
@Captainmac 100 that's just personal credulity... The statistical facts sho different... Inoccent People lie all the time....inoccent people confess to crimes thet didn't do etc..etc...I think she did it too...just not sure it's murder... Did she act alone? Etc etc...I'm not defending her... It's the law I'm defending... You got to get her for correct crime...Otherwise the perpetrator could be free and so on again...
@Captainmac 100 no that's not the argument... "Inoccent don't lie" is what you said....past case shows inoccent do lie....etc...etc...tell me what she did? What crime? how she did it? Why?
@robert gibson Well good thing now that nobody got charged and convicted lol. Even with one of the most obvious people present who already broke laws by lying to the investigator's who were searching for the truth of your death. That must suck.
@robert gibson the undoubtedly correct crimes were extreme negligence and obstruction of justice. Those two are unquestionably true. I'll give you that it's not proven that she killed her kid.. even though it's extremely obvious that she knows alot more than she actually told. But those first two are undoubtedly crimes she committed and was never punished for.
@Captainmac 100 the it's gender argument is just so wrong...it's circumstances... All you have is circumstantial evidence..... Against the person.... Circumstance that can be explained by.. X... We no clearer on what actually took place... You and I..etc...guess she killd her daughter.... Nun of us know. This is why she HAD to be fund not guilty of charges brought forward.
@robert gibson Yes we may not know for a fact that it was her.. but it doesn't take away how obvious it is that she knows much more than she lets on and the FACT that she did commit two crimes during this investigation and wasn't punished for either. Both of which we just spoke about.
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robert gibson2021-01-02 18:50:41 (edited 2021-01-02 19:02:04 )
@Captainmac 100 the thing is if she did do it....she is guilty of.. murder... And is extremely smart... The case was brought forward wrong....I'd go down route...she meticulously pland everything... Down to the last thing....she couldn't believe her luck...That's why she was laughing out loud at universal... Getting to waste time to the fullest... Longer it go on harder it's to prove what actually happened. It's the investigators job to shut this shit down asap...not aid in the shirad... Get facts...too busy trying to make her look like lier...phone call could have discredited all...and did..before they got to universal.... Etc... Blame the prosecution and investigater ... Mainly prosecution. She don't care how she looks...she cares what you can prove...outsmarted at every time.. You know why they didn't go down this route??? Because they would have to admit they been outsmarted. She wanted them to paint her as lier..etc...etc..etc..
@Captainmac 100 If this isn't case then her defence... Is more likely.... She had so many defences pre pland, it's scary how smart she is....IF she did it.
@robert gibson end of what? Dude is English your 2nd language?
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robert gibson2021-01-02 19:11:54 (edited 2021-01-02 23:08:27 )
@Captainmac 100 yes all part of her plan....again if we going for murder it has to be part of plan....Otherwise we need different crime....
And the objective was to get off with murder... You know she can't be tried again right?......why go through life looking over shoulder? To confess without confessing...That is not smart?
Also that's very evident that she didn't care.. about anything lol. Must be nice to be a woman in court. Shout out to Dalia dippolito
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robert gibson2021-01-02 19:25:33 (edited 2021-01-02 19:25:57 )
@Captainmac 100 the gender bais is from both your end...dont you think a man can use same defence?
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robert gibson2021-01-02 19:48:51 (edited 2021-01-02 19:56:35 )
@Chimene all religion... Is essentialy the same. My problem is I know too much about various religions...yous all pagan... Evolved. For me do god exists... I don't know....I do know that the religions are clearly wrong...no "God" of religion makes any sense... Now I have to ask you to define the word "god" to be shure we talking about the correct god of your choice? Edit.. Just got the Buddhism part...funny thing is that would probably be the way to go for me...however it's nonsense. Like the rest.
The Conservative I'm having is with everyone... This is why you think I, don't know the religion you hail from.
@Captainmac 100 no that's not the court that's your society.... The court works... Your society is broken... Do you see difference... Dude Albert Einstein was also dyslexic man....dont make out I'm dumb because I can't spell man.. Not cool...lol....I understand all the words...the problem is I don't think you know the words you use...let alone mine....do you understand what I'm saying here?..,
@robert gibson Dude it's also your GRAMMAR that's dog crap. Lol.. honestly pretty difficult to make out what you're trying to say half the time. Like talking to a 10 year old.
The court obviously DOESN'T work if a woman was literally breaking TWO laws and got punished for neither. Did you understand that dur durrrrrppp lmao?
@robert gibson Lol also if the court truly worked.. it wouldn't be as easily exploited as it has for decades. Mafia made it a joke. John Dillinger used it to his advantages during his sentencing. Women get leniency on a constant basis. Saying "it works" is like saying "a car never needs gas or electricity" lmao
@Captainmac 100 Bro the system is flawed... Ofcorce.... But it works...this case in particular is an excellent example of the system working correctly.... You'd rather someone go to jail who is inoccent than the guilty go free?... No inoccent should be in jail man...this is a social issue though not the court.
@robert gibson If it's FLAWED then it DOESN'T WORK lol. There you go with your dyslexia blatantly going the wrong way with how things connect. You couldn't be more wrong.. it's hilarious.
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robert gibson2021-01-02 20:23:07 (edited 2021-01-02 21:59:41 )
@ hypeman18 the fucked up thing is you not even willing to entertain any other possible scenario.... With nothing other than she lied....wtf? You wouldn't make a jury.
@robert gibson Dude she's blatantly flaunting that she's messing with everyone while her kid is missing??? I don't need another scenario to focus on with this OBVIOUSLY NOT INNOCENT woman is infront of me.
You're a literal joke and I love how NO ONE has agreed with you.
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robert gibson2021-01-02 20:26:18 (edited 2021-01-02 22:22:33 )
@Captainmac 100 ps the court and systems are the opposite... They rather let guilty go free than inoccent in jail....they can get the guilty another time...and it's a crime to false imprison.
If it broken it don't work...if it's flawed it's not perfect. But it works. Lol I've been silenced... I missed some messages from you....some other response to you was for the other dude lol apologies.
As for my spelling.. You know what I mean correct? Or how do you know to correct it? And if you don't understand why not ask? As for grammar Don't =do not.. Would you like me to talk more like that....is this the problem?
It is good you see the point I am making btw....the other guy has no clue...I do not disagree with most you say again I missed them... I was too busy arguing with other guy...while you two, too busy trying to embarrass me for spelling etc...any how.. I am done trying to explain...
The prosecution, the jury, both grandparents, her mother and friends and family all failed Caylee. The only decent people I see are the cops who arrested Casey and tried to interrogate her during her Universal fantasy trip. What is so special about Casey that all these people protect her? Especially her parents, who created this monster by essentially allowing her to lie her way through life. They had a choice, to stand by their daughter or their granddaughter, and they chose Casey.
Here's hoping to new evidence being found that finally pins Casey to this tragedy, lets hope for a better prosecutor, and a better jury panel. Even if the prosecution did a piss poor job of proving beyond a REASONABLE doubt (not zero doubt, or no doubt), why would the jury not hold her accountable of her lies and complete guilt? It was obvious to me from the phone call to the police operator, her lies only helped to solidify her guilt in my mind. Her parents are almost as bad as her.
@Taylor Burtis sadly it is to do with gender statistically women in the US serve 60% shorter sentances for the same crimes meaning a man and a woman who have both commited the EXACT same crime go to court, the man is likely to end up with more then 2ce the amount of jail time and thats on guilty verdicts, women are also VASTLY more likely to get innocent verdicts then men, and women who have been arrested are less likely to ever go to court then men
when it comes to the criminal justice system it is sadly VERY baised in favour of women just look at pedophilia cases, its biased to the point when adult women abuse young boys they more often then not get away without any jail time at all
@gregsmw Same goes for white people vs people of color, the latter typically gets heavier sentences. Gender and race definitely impact sentencing in the US.
10 out of 12 jurors were set to vote guilty down the line. 2 jurors refused and eventually the jurors gave up to go home rather than hang the jury and declare a mistrial which is what should have happened
@Kay S absolutly yes its shocking just how favorably young white women are treated compared to others, with the worst examples being compare to young black men who get disproportionally high sentancing
For now. Believe me those detectives won't let it go. One way or another she will pay for killing that beautiful little girl. Just like OJ Simpson they never gave up on him and they finally got his ass,may not have been for the murders but the got him. She will get hers,if not in this lifetime in the next,it's worth the wait for me. She will burn in hell,God doesn't forget.
@Fabian Heartless and crazy people tend to ruin your life onve you involve them it. If you think keeping it to one night would keep you out of harm's way, they'll use that perceived safety to hurt you even more.
Yea that attorney know people on the inside. People think "he just know the law" while I'm reality you gotta have connections to get someone off like this.
@Noah Joseph saved and forgiven by who? God isn't going to save her or forgive her,not just for killing a baby but for what she put everyone through involved,come on man
Because it is a man made law. Implement divine law like how Saudi Arabia has implemented and then you see results. Crime would be down by 50 percent if Sharia law is implemented.
@Taylor Burtis I can understand that, and you’re probably right, but the numbers still show, men are much more likely to be prosecuted and experience more severe sentencing than women.
@Honesty Rules That’s oversimplifying the contrast of racial bias in the court system. There’s more to it than black and white, but that does still play a part in it, especially when there’s a jury involved.
It's pretty easy when the detectives/investigators are shit at their jobs.
The prosecution needs to prove that the defendant committed the crime. And the only evidence they provided is that defendant googled how to suffocate someone, and the victim's remains where the cause of death was officially undetermined, but duct tape caused it to be ruled a homicide.
There was zero physical evidence that tied Casey to her daughter's murder. The prosecution thought that her constant lies and her apparent lack of care about her daughter was going to be enough to get a conviction.
And maybe if the jury just based their verdict off of personal feelings, instead of the rule of law, maybe they would've convicted her.
But even then, there would be grounds for appeal- because there was absolutely zero evidence that proves she's guilty of the crime.
No eyewitness, no reciepts for buying a canvas bag, absolutely no forensic evidence. Practically nothing but circumstantial evidence.
Hell, 99.9% of the reason people thought she was guilty was because she lied constantly, and didn't play the part of a grieving woman.
So I ask you - if she, like many other convicted murderers, even female ones, was able to come up with a convincing tale, cry in all the right spots, and tell lies that were a lot harder to disprove, would you still think she was guilty?
Because, if you look at the actual evidence (what little of it there was), there is nothing that proves she killed anyone. That's why the media, and this video, focused so heavily on Casey's character.
@Digital_Utopia there was physical evidence linking Caylee’s corpse to Casey’s car. The defense of I didn’t do it but if I did it was an accident is an obvious red flag. She got off because the jury was stupid.
@Steven Norris Even if there was, which wasn't mentioned here, the prosecution still has to place Casey in the car at the time. Since the car left her possession- placing the body in the trunk is not sufficient.
@Nocthe Medic Post the actual statistic then. Because in Canada, that is extremely far from the truth, as well as many other countries. Unless this is just the US, which I highly doubt. There are mitigating factors for every single case. So stated that is false, not sure which statistics you are reading.
@Wes nothing to do with gender either. You get mad when people bring up "white" because you're white, but don't care when people bring up that it's a woman?
@Fabian Well I understand your frustration sir. But I think we need to stop for a second and think about that.. There was lack of evidence and also she and hers attorney were simply too good compared to police and other attorney..
@uzijn Well I understand your frustration sir. But I think we need to stop for a second and think about that.. There was lack of evidence and also she and her attorney were simply too good compared to police and other attorney..
gender and race shouldnt matter not one bit with the law everyone deserves equal sentences for the same crimes no matter what. the problem is statistically women get lesser or easier sentences compared to men who have done the same crime. which shouldnt happen in the first place yet it is which is disgusting tbh
@Wes no, I hate to tell you, it is a combination of her lawyer her race and her gender. Had she been a black woman living in poverty and this happened she would be in jail, it's people who refuse to believe in systematic racism that are the issue, had she been a man she would have been in jail, sexism is real, and had she been a black man she would have gotten the death sentence just because you don't want to accept it doesn't mean it's not the issue
It’s like you see someone coming out from a room with a bloody knife and in the room lies a dead body. The situation seems so obvious, however due to you not having a physical proof of that individual stabbing, then that obvious murderer is “nOt GiLtY”
And real life is not a mystery movie with 20 plot twist, in real life the most obvious choice tends to be the correct one, specially in this case, but that’s how broken justice is.
She was found guilty of lying to cops and interfering with a police investigation. She had been in jail 3 years while awaiting trial and they applied that time served to her sentence. She spent another couple of weeks in jail after the trial to finish that sentence and was released.
She has inferiority complex the way she talks to the Detectives in excitement agrees to stuff they say without even thinking what is being said 45:20 wtf thats her being philosophical
Casey's defense was basically that she was molested as a child, therefore she couldn't possibly be guilty. And the jury ate it up and forgave her for everything, knowing fully well that she probably did it. There really has to be a point where people realize that it doesn't matter if you were hurt as a child, it doesn't excuse you killing a child as an adult.
I agree but somehow femininity and beauty seems to affect people's brains. The jury wasn't all happy, which shows how dangerous the system is. Imagine this the other way around, wrongfully accusing someone because of appearances or lack thereof.
She probably did it...you said it yourself. There was zero proof that showed she murdered her daughter. And that is what the entire case against her was based on. If that wasnt proven, you cant convict based on a probably.
The jury's decision had zero to do with the excuse that she was molested. It had everything to do with the FACT that they were not able to pin Caylee's death on her.
Exactly. And it works the other way too. A "friend", when i told her Id been molested as a child, said that ppl who have been molested as a child usually grew up to be molesters the selves. I was around 25 at the time and was mortified
She is (at least) a pathological liar and nothing that comes out of her mouth is to be believed, therefor I would have a hard time as a juror to find her guilty without any physical evidence. Maybe this video did not present the physical evidence clearly?
@Sodomis666 I followed the trial very closely. The prosecution had a lot of evidence. Everything except the one thing that they needed to convict Casey Anthony of the murder charge she was charged with. Florida is known for putting tons of emotion into charges without really thinking about it (see the George Zimmerman case). They couldve easily charged her with something like child endangerment, child abuse, covering up a crime, etc etc, and in reality any of those convictions and she probably would've gotten the book thrown at her. Wouldn't have been life, but it probably would've taken 10 years of her life away. And rightfully so. There's just no way any jury in the country with even any shred of a brain could send her away for life based on the liklihood that she was responsible for her daughters death. And even if that was proven, it still doesnt prove murder.
The real issue was the da over charging her without the evidence. He was the idiot that ruined the case, not the jurors. Learn to read bro and don’t post things when you don’t know anything about what you are talking about.
@NothingToPointOut24 not probably, she DID murder her. There wasn't "zero proof" that she did it, just by the actual facts that she researched about how to suffocate someone around the same day her daugther went missing and that her daughter was found with duct tape in her mouth/nose was enough to get her convicted, why would she duct tape her daugther's mouth after she died from "drowning" according to her? The jury was batshit insane in this case and the prosecutors made a terrible job from pointing this out.
@Vincenzo Del Lama Responsible for her death and actually murdering her are two different things. If you think she murdered her, then thats fine. I dont think thats what happened at all. I think thats what she staged to make it seem like Caylee was taken and killed by someone else.
I also think her father helped her stage that. He was an ex cop and had to have seen plenty of murder scenes so he knew exactly how to make it look. In the end, it worked.
@NothingToPointOut24 I don't think, I know based on the evidence of the search history and duct tape with the conflicting statement that her daughter drowned, along with all the other evidence that she wanted her daughter gone. Your argument makes no sense whatsoever based on the evidence and the made up story that her daughter drowned. If her father is an ex-cop he would never help her stage a murder of an accidental death as he knew that upon an authopsy they would rule her death as drowing, and an accidental death would put her to jail for far less time than risking her being found guilty of murder. And even if they were this stupid why didn't they keep the murder story instead of saying that she drowned?
@Vincenzo Del Lama I never said anything about her drowning. I dont believe that she drown and never said she did and that Casey panicked. I said I believe Casey was responsible for Caylee's death and that it was accidental.
If you would convict based on that, I hope you never find your way onto a jury in this country anytime soon.
@Vincenzo Del Lama Lol I've probably said about 3 times that she deserved jailtime and was responsible for her daughters death. I guess I should be more like you and base my opinion 100 percent on emotion like a 6 year old.
Really hope you never find your way onto a jury in your life if thats the way you decide someones fate.
@Vincenzo Del Lama I've shared plenty on this topic. Im not going to change your mind and you arent going to change mine so we'll keep it at that. But I guarantee that we could go through other high profile murder cases where murder wasnt proven either, and you'd say those people were guilty too based on minimal evidence and media/public outrage. Its scary what people can read online or be told by a news anchor and base their opinions all on that
Or maybe you have an issue with Casey Anthony herself. Who knows. All I know was that there wasnt much outrage from people who didnt base their opinion 100 percent on emotion, on this case, when the verdict was announced. And I can guess which category you fall under.
@CyberGothika juries are horrendous there should only be appointed government officials who decide the verdict in a 1 party state, in my opinion.
Look at Derik Chauvin, he had no chance of getting free in Mineapolis because of the politics of that state, whereas with the same evidence in a southern state he may have walked free with all charges dropped, with a jury there is no consistency in the law dispite the USA only having one constitution for all 50 states.
Sadly, that is not the case. The jury listened to the defense lawyer who actually laid it all on the table; your job as a jury is not to make a judgement call, it is to dissect the evidence provided by the prosecution and deem the person guilty in accordance. We all know she did it, the jury knows, but their charge is not to convict her on their gut feeling, which everyone shares, about circumstantial evidence.
@louis leycuras Guilty of what exactly though? Lying? Making people up? Hate to break it to ya, but that doesnt get you convicted on a murder charge without much more evidence being against you. The fact that people cant grasp that concept is scary.
I think the reason is simpler. She was pretty and a woman and people are programmed to believe women are good mothers and if she claimed innocence that was all they needed to validate their programming.
The fact that you said “probably” guilty is enough to acquit or find NOT guilty. We can not find people guilty with a lucky guess or a “possibility” of guilt.
@Presticles1 That's one possibility. Lets say for sake of argument that she didn't kill her child, then who killed her? If she was drowned in the pool why put a duct tape over mouth and put her in a trash bag and throw her body in the bushes? it proves that she wasn't drowned but murdered.
@Vincenzo Del Lama couldn’t it have also been the boyfriend though? He also would have access to duct tape, Caylee, and his girlfriends computer. Plus he would’ve stood to gain from his girlfriend having more free time.. I just like you believe Casey did it but the prosecution just didn’t have the goods.
@Villanelle I believe once they caught her in so many lies they rushed it and zeroed in on her. They even charged and indicted her for murder before they even found the body.. All investigators aren’t suited for high profile cases like this one was. The simplest of mistakes can ruin the investigation.
@Antz Pantzz the first person I told said the same thing to me and it has fucked with me since. I was 8, I hope you find comfort in the fact that you aren't alone but I'm also so sorry that something so cruel was said and done to you. You're loved and cherished, take care 💕
@CyberGothika exact same thing happened with that tik tok guy who killed that mother driving. he was attractive so everyone fought for him and he got away with jt
thank you so much for explaining. it's always enlightening when a seasoned defense attorney explains the ins and outs of the very complicated legal system.
Frrr not only that but did she cry at all while they were describing what happened o her daughter? No, but wants to cry when they start talking about her troubles! Thats just bizarre to me.
They didn't eat it up, they all thought she was guilty. But you can't convict somebody based on what you think, even if you feel it's obvious. You need to all agree that there was proof beyond doubt, and they all thought it was a small possibility that the child drowned in the pool.
Her defense wasn't that being molested made her kill her daughter. It was that being molested is how she was able to hide her pain her whole life, and pretend life is normal to everyone.
It was a brilliant strategy. That's why it worked. Her lawyer knew how to paint the exact picture he wanted.
@NothingToPointOut24 They did charge her with all of that, she was found not guilty of murder, aggravated child abuse, and aggravated manslaughter. She was found GUILTY of 4 other charges involving Caylee, and they gave her the maximum sentence of "time served", and she was released....
Her defense has nothing to do with it. The prosecution reached too far without enough supporting evidence and the jury couldn't convict based on lack of evidence.
It’s not a defense or an excuse but an explanation, if the attorney can find no true reason that they aren’t guilty they might be but in the same sense the jury can’t prosecute someone without any real evidence being presented to them
That ain't why. The prosecutor could not prove when or how little Caley was murdered and ethe defense exposed the fact that her father is basically a liar.
There was actually no proof her father molested her. Her attorney brought it up in his opening argument, then didn't mention it again. An attorney is supposed to say what they will show, through evidence, during the case. But he didn’t even try to bring in evidence to that effect. He didn’t question the dad, the mom, or Casey about it. What he did was unethical. Since he said it but didn't follow up, the prosecution could have asked that his opening statement be stricken from the record, either in whole, or at least as to that part. The prosecution missed that opportunity. They also charged her with higher crimes than they could prove. Throw in asking for the death penalty, and the prosecution made a big old mess of this case.
@JAMBERRY They showed nothing to prove that the dad was a liar, but they planted doubt in the jury. They made that up about the dad, the Private I was there when they thought of it, they were going to say it about the meter reader who found Caylee's body but the story about the dad was better. Even you believed it based on nothing, that's why it's a good lie.
That's why I hate why things like past trauma or mental illness are used as excuses to get people more lenient sentences or get off a crime completely. I'm aware some people have lived through horrible things, but that isn't an excuse for murder. We all get dealt a hand of cards in life, some people get a good hand, some a decent hand and some a bad hand but the actions a person takes in their life are their responsibility, no one else's. If it were up to me, factors like that would not play into someone's sentencing. It would be as simple as if they committed the crime (with proof above a reasonable doubt), then they are guilty and they serve the appropriate sentence. I would have the same outlook on the death penalty. The only area where I'm split on is when it comes to children or teens as it's well known that people don't usually start thinking 100% straight until they're in their mid-twenties. But that wouldn't remove their culpability because no matter the age, everybody knows that murder is wrong. So I can understand how they get a lesser/more lenient sentence but I'm still a bit split on that. I think sentences should be much stricter for severe crimes and think the death penalty should be on the table if there is undeniable proof linking somebody to murder. I think if that were the case, people would think a bit more about committing crimes like that and I also think that anybody who had killed an innocent person should lose their right to life as well and get the death sentence...
I was beaten and molested n not one time could I ever hurt one of mine. I never let them out my site either unless I fully trusted them. I let my girls stay few hours with my sister n one of her girls hurt mine n ol dad tried to cover it up trying t get my baby to lie about it
@Marie Williams The person who posted the comment is confused. The reason the defense brought up Casey's "molestation" was ONLY to explain why Casey was able to bury her sad feelings when she was around strangers. They needed a reason she was good at wearing a smile when she was in pain.
The whole thing was BS, but it was a good explanation for the jury since they didn't know anything about Casey. We had the benefit of everything we learned on TV.
but the horror she must have gone through as a child she was touched by an adult "sexually" thats pretty crazy and now i feel bad for everything she has gone though life. think about the PTSD she must be facing daily OMGGGGGG
in your comment you said "knowing fully well that she *probably* did it" that is a not guilty verdict. Probably is not good enough to sentence someone to the electric chair.
Yeah my friend was Molested when he was a kid and he never thought about doing any over that, it's not a good defence for her, shes of course guilty, the judge made a critical error in letting her walk free she needs to be Admitted to a Instatution at the least
@Jeff King The defense used the abuse to explain why she lied about the death and to police, not as her defense for the murder. The defense exploited the states burden of proof to simply cast doubt on whether they had enough evidence to convict her, since they didn't have direct proof or DNA/ Physical evidence to place her there or say she definitively caused the death. and in the jury system a jury with any doubts rules not guilty.
Still it's the kind of case that kills your faith in the justice system. She definitely did it, and the fact she got to walk out and get away with murder on a technicality is infuriating.
@Billy Smith The main thing the prosecution was missing was a cause of death for Caylee, and they didn't have any physical evidence that placed Casey at the scene like DNA. If they had that, combined with the journal entries and the circumstancial evidence like the blockbuster tapes they could've really changed the case. Also, apparantly her parents are liars too, and are suspected of prejury or "selective memory" during the case, so it was something planned for sure.
@NothingToPointOut24 you think it was accidental? Ive watched this case inside and out and I don't think it was accidental at all. I hope u dont get into any jury either if thats what you got from this case. Especially as she searched on top of having duct tape on her nose mouth. She even wrote in her journal that she felt the "best " in the time she was missing, she also wrote about how she had "done something sinful, something that cannot be named" like that does not sound accidental what so ever. I agreed with most you said about the court and they can't convict her with the evidence they had, however in my own opinion looking into this case it is very obvious it was her and not an accident. Not basing on emotions but all the actual evidence leading towards it, it's obvious to everyone.
@NothingToPointOut24 also i find it really ironic how you're saying they're liking their own comments but they have plus 10 pn theirs and you only have 1 🤣
In my opinion, sexual assault affords people waaaay to much social currency. Both for true victims and liars. Thats why we get get so many women lying about being a victim, because they get something from it, whether that be attention, sympathy, or excuses for behavior. Obviously, we should have sympathy for victims, but we shouldn't give them more attention or different treatment than non victims. This is healthier for everyone involved, a real victims legal ad social treatment shouldn't be influenced by a bad thing that happened to them, their abuser shouldn't have that influence over their life. It would also prevent liars from receiving any benefits from the label of 'sexual assault survivor', which would stop the lies from happening in the first place, because they lie for the benefits.
@Vincenzo Del Lama I agree with everything you are saying. I don’t understand why people think the death was accidental? For people to say “I don’t believe she drowned”, “but I do believe it was accidental” makes no sense! If they believe the accident theory, surly the would believe the drowning lie? To say this was an accident, I have to put to them - You don’t accidentally put duck tape over your child’s face, then accidentally watch the child struggle to breath, then accidentally watch your kid die. Did CA accidentally, wrap her kid in a blanket proven to be from her parents home, trip and the little girls body accidentally fell into a laundry bag, also from the parents home. Maybe little Kaylee accidentally came back to life, zipped herself in the laundry bag after it was dumped in the woods, pulled the tape back over her nose and mouth, then accidentally suffocated herself. I understand there wasnt circumstantial evidences tying her to the scene but when you look at ALL the other evidence, it honestly points to CA, killing her child. She waited over a month to report it, infact it wasn’t even her that did, it was her parents, then she lied to the police, misleading the entire investigation, halting any attempts to find the child, the smell of a dead body in her car, her compulsive lying that the child was with the “nanny”, that she had spoken to the child even though that was impossible as she was dead at this point, the internet search history of suffocation & SHOCK the child is found with mouth/nose duck tapped that causes suffocation, her changing her story saying she drowned, saying it was accidental, so why if that’s the case, would you put duck tape over her face, then dump your beautiful babies body in a wood for animals to rip it apart? As a mum myself, I’d be beside myself if I knew my daughter was all alone in the woods, because even when someone dies, you still think of them as a person attached to the body they had. That kid was disposed like trash! Her death will never have justice, you don’t put duck tape on a body if they died of drowning. Why make something that was accidental look like a murder? Accidents happen but you get the death penalty for murder in FL. None of it makes sense logically. Anyone advocating and sticking up for CA, should be ashamed, as they as basically saying what happened to that little girl, doesn’t matter. That’s what is horrific in this case, people forgot a child was murdered, and focused on CA life, even though it was all based on lies.
ngl i am more intrested if that abuse acusation was actualy true....i mean only shows what monsters could lurk in your family...he father seemed so nice and i wonder if the wife knew
@CyberGothika you stand your ground in the jury process and get beat down by others who just want to submit the verdict and go home. Imagine having a group of people deciding a criminal's fate and everyone of them just wants to close the book and get out of there, let's get to a quick verdict so I can go home and watch Duck Duynasty...
That's not true in the slightest!! The jury couldn't convict Casey because the evidence just wasn't there, it was all circumstantial, and they have to be able to convict without reasonable doubt, and I think it's obvious to an idiot that they just couldn't do that.
@Vincenzo Del Lama No it wasn't enough to convict her, because there were several people who lived in the house Casey lived in, therefore it could not be proved Casey was the one who made those Internet searches. And the duct tape had no evidence from the murderer on it. So no, they didn't have any evidence
Threw dad under the bus? Is he going to a trial now?
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She never was molested for her father the proof was in the video recording from jail when she was talking with her parents she said to his father you are the best father I could have. 😳?????
yea like no prison okay but be locked away in a psychiatry then I guess. I am psychically ill but if I ever were to do something this bad I go to a hospital before telling them I am very ill and need a therapist NOW and STAY in that hospital. If I dont I want it to happen basically... And if you cant control yourselves well n did it already well - gotta get ya locked up. In either a prison or a psychiatry. why should you be free as a threat to other people.
Yeah your childhood is no excuse for how you act as an adult. I had a childhood that was so bad that if people knew what I went through they wouldn't believe it could be true.. I sucked it up and grew tf up
oddly the molested into never being guilty (like anyone who met prince andrew as a child) wasn't even the whole reason why she wasn't found guilty. The official reason the jury cited afterwards was that they didn't have a video of the murder.
Yes, so many ppl blame their bad childhood for drug abuse, sexual misconduct etc. But you can't blame a shitty childhood tthe rest of your life. They just need to get their shit together and grow up. We all have some trauma big or small but we don't blame everything on that..
@NothingToPointOut24 I agree. I hate to say it, but from what was shown in the vid, prosecution failed to make an adequate case. I agree she almost certainly killed her own child, and I personally have no doubts about it that I consider reasonable given the evidence presented in the vid, but it looks like in court, the prosecution failed.
"she probably did it" is not grounds for conviction. I too believe she did it but nevertheless you still do need evidence to convict someone in court, otherwise it's just a kangaroo court.
She didn’t report her missing for a month, internet search history for chloroform, car smells like dead body, body found near home, and she seemingly doesn’t even care that her daughter is dead. At the very least she is guilty of severe child neglect and yet she walks free to this day while we have people spending years in jail for petty shit like possession of marijuana. The justice system is ridiculous.
@Missy Blue according to the video they said she wasn’t a real person, that Caylee never had a babysitter... Never heard about this case beforehand so could be that she tried to sue her (or a made-up person) 😅. Think it is far worse if the nanny isn’t a real person cuz then she’s blaming someone that she knows doesn’t exist making her guilty
@Kenzis um I don't think you understand the legal system at all. No one gets declared innocent by a judge in a criminal trial, the options are guilty and not guilty. Most defendants choose to have a jury decide their guilt or non-guilt as Casey Anthony did. A jury of her peers decided the state did not meet it's burden of reasonable doubt to convict her. The judge had nothing to do with her not guilty verdict.
cares more about "stuck in this fking jail, wasting my time" when asked is the Tony thing about finding Caylee "no it's not" so let me get this right her concern is all about herself instead of her own daughter. hmmmm
While I partially agree. You lose me at the end. "Spending years on jail for petty possession" is just a complete lie. You've watched too much tv. Go look up your state convictions for possession. No one is being give years for marijuana possession.
If you want to make solid point about injustice don't lie in order to make it. And hey, maybe you aren't deliberately lying but you definitely have been sold a lie.
@sacha def You need to check out how many men are not getting convincted for rape, harassment and murders (especially of their female partner - often despite similar proofs as in the case of Casey) instead of claiming 'woman privilege' lmao.
It's almost like a 1 hour YouTube video doesn't give you all the context. Sarcasm aside, this is a great documentary of the trial, but like all things, is presenting facts through a specific lens.
The "justice system" that you're referring to is a group of individuals, probably like you. To call it "ridiculous" is to imply that because you're mad, you should be able to condemn someone to death without taking time to further understand the situation.
The justice system exists to prevent surges of emotion from condemning someone to death or taking away their freedoms on a whim.
That’s why you shouldn’t have a jury of just every day normal people decide whether someone is guilty or not 🤷🏼♀️I never understood that about the US justice system.
@bow wow That's why we don't have juries over here in Germany. Over here Casey wouldn't have gotten away with this shit. Okay, we also don't have death penalty or "life without parole" (only the very worst and obviously psychopathic criminals sometimes get "lebenslange Haft mit anschließender Sicherheitsverwahrung", which means, that you CAN be paroled after at least 15 years in prison, but not to get set free again, but to be still locked up in prison, just not in a cell, but in a kind of "shared household" with other inmates being your "roommates", which is ALMOST like being free, but not quite....you can do what you want, you live in a kind of shared apartment, you have your own room, your own food, your own shared kitchen, your own shared bathroom, but you can't leave prison anyway...). Also SOME VERY FEW convicts never get paroled or decline applying for parole. Most "life" setences last between 16 and 20 years over here, with the average life setences actually lasting 18,9 years, about 18-20% last up to 25 years and the rest....well...they're still in there....one guy has been sitting in jail for over 50 years now, he was always denied parole and during the last 20 or so years, he didn't even apply to it, probably because he understand that he missed his whole life anyway and that he probably won't get along with how much everything has changed since he got sentenced.
@Hauptmann itas the county they picked the jury pool from probably had an average iq of 85, when I saw they were using some backwoods podunk town where the average income is under 30k a year, I knew she was walking.
The smell was discussed a lot in court, and the defense tried to establish, possibly successfully, that it wasn't a reliable evidence. Casey's mother testified that it was her who searched for chloroform. A mistress of Casey's father testified that he had confided in her that the death was "an accident that snowballed". The theory of the defense states that the girl died at home, and that the death was hidden at the urge of Casey's father, so it makes sense that the body would be found nearby, regardless of how she actually died. That she didn't give a shit about her dead daughter (or at least appear not to) doesn't prove that she murdered her. When you look a bit into the details, there are a lot of them that cast doubt about Casey's guilt, in fact.
If she drowned in a pool at home, why was there duct tape over her nose, mouth and face ??? Cold blooded sociopathic killer. What is she up to these days - did the bf she wanted to party with stick around?
I don't know whether she is the culprit or not... But she made ridiculous stories about nanny and her never existing friends and she went to the place for find them with the prosecutor. Wasted their time knowingly and throughout this investigation she never even feel sad or sorry about her daughter (except when she feels unsecure about herself)......it's very uncomfortable and unjustified the whole case... Very disappointing
like duct tape? whatever about the hiding things because apparently her dad abused her (where the fuck was thé evidence for that?) But if she died in a pool then maybe the search history for suffocation would be her trying to verify it but why would you need duct tape over an already dead child's mouth? Seriously this fucking jury was so awful they should be ashamed and I hope everyday they think about how badly they fucked up
the justice system is ridiculous because youre judged by your peers. for WHATEVER reason. the jurors found her not guilty DESPITE all that damn evidence pointing to her being guilty. All you need to do is sway the opinions of the jury
It even goes further then that, she was a fire fox user, the cops didn’t know what fire fox was and only looked at the search history on the internet explorer (which her mother used) she literally spent the morning looking at Facebook, most likely watching all her friends her age living life. Next she then looked up full proof suffocation and suffocation multiple times. Cops just did a shitty job
@Kenzis bc of the media coverage they had to select ppl for the jury from Clearwater Florida that already didn’t have ‘bias’ against her. Most likely not the brightest or best ppl to judge fellow community members. SO so so many factors in this case that led to this evil happening
@Missy Blue there was a real lady with that name living in Florida. She used the combo of the names of the ppl living in front of where she dumped the body
Yeah, I agree...but then I thought about it for a while. If she got arrested, who gets justice? The grandparents? Because they lost a grandchild and they wouldn't want to lose a child too. The general public? As far as any media or this documentary shows, Casey wasn't a serial killer...so in my opinion, although she deserved to spend her life rotting in jail, this would probably have been the best outcome for everyone
Besides various statistics has shown women get more times for the same crimes as men and women in the justice system do not have the same support system as men.
Men who kill their wives for example in many places get the 'passionate crime' excuse and less years than a woman who kills her husband, even despite proofs of her being abused.
In UK and US, rape kits are often destroyed or not analysed by concerned parties, including police officers - and neither does the law provide a certain time limit for it to happen. Meaning many rape victims, majorly women, do not get justice.
Trafficked victims who kill their trafficker to be able to escape still get treated as if it's a 'normal' crime. And cases where women are kidnapped or die take more time to be resolved, especially when it is colored or indigenous women - which suggest the law and system is still biased towards women.
The claim that women supposedly get less punished by legal system is false, has been debunked already where it shows, it the actual opposite happening.
I can’t believe how stupid everyone in the jury is. How can you see all this and think she isn’t guilty? I hope they can’t sleep at night knowing that they let a baby killer go free.
We have the benefit of hindsight we now can centralise and go through all the evidence with the knowing that she did do it, and I have to be honest sitting in that room with that defence not knowing if it is fact or not, he gives a damn good performance. Money was on her side with that defence it saved her
@Guy exactly. The burden of forming a case beyond reasonable doubt is the job of the prosecution. The defense only needs to create a single shred of doubt, obviously they were successful.
@megan Najera nah she was taking to her dad like she missed him and loved him when she was in jail, even saying he was “a great dad. So I’m guessing it’s bull.
They do think Casey is guilty. But this doesn’t mean they can convict her due to the lack of evidence. It was only inquiry that was provided. It is pretty clear that she murdered her 3 year old innocent daughter. This is probably another example of women getting the benefit of the doubt when charged for a crime 😑
@Guy Just the fact that she intentionally lied about her daughter's whereabouts and hid things from EVERYONE (not even talking about going to the police, she could've at least confided in some people) is all the evidence you need to know! They had A LOT more evidence to convict her, but didn't. There's people sitting in jail over circunstancial evidence. Yet she's out there living her life like nothing happened. At least negligence should have been brought up to the table. Even if she didn't lie a finger on that baby, she should've been convicted. At least some years in prison.
Well I can tell you who is sleeping probably even more comfortable than before. Her name now infamous, what she saw as a burden is now out of her life, and there is nothing to show for it. Her pretty face and money saved her again. Karma will come. And it will strike harder than it ever has before. I do wish that sweet baby haunts her dreams though...
Strictly speaking the basis of innocence is beyond a reasonable doubt. What this means is that if it is a genuine |possibility| that someone else could have reasonably done it then you should let the person go. For example just because someone is a lying sociopath doesn't mean that they are necessarily the killer. Further some of the public knowledge that is most incriminating was kept from the jury for a variety of legal reasons.
It's worth noting the big problem in the US isn't people getting off because they are rich or white, it's poor and minorities being convicted despite clear reasonable doubt. Heck more often then not the prosecution to be pressing charges to begin with.
@Imari Williams Not a single shred of doubt, a REASONABLE doubt. The prosecution fucked up when they didn’t look at the Firefox history. If they’d shown that the history said “fool proof suffocation,” she would be in jail.
@CrazyPangolinLady although that evidence would have helped it was circumstantial. It didn’t directly tie Casey to Caylee’s death, it just made her look more guilty. There was a lot of evidence that we know now that was either excluded from trial or not presented at all. The prosecution really dropped the ball.
@Guy Yeah I have to agree. That man is an absolutely brilliant defense lawyer. Morality aside, if he did really believe she was innocent does not matter, what matters is that he convinced a nation and a jury that a child killer was innocent. And he did so in such an eloquently successful way. It says a lot about the politicization and media intervention into our law systems.
@megan Najera it was a lie. A lot of cases where someone is cornered they manifest some bullshit claim of childhood neglect or abuse. To bring more sympathy for them. But most are investigated and nothing is proven. It’s complete BS and honestly should come with a charge for slander as you are trying to ruin someone else’s life with false accusations
@Scared Donut there was evidence pointing to her doing a lot of things. She got charged with some stuff but got away with the murder, at the same time some of the jury even realized they made the wrong decision afterwards
@SirStrange "some things" is not evidence beyond reasonable doubt for murder.
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It's fascinating how detached from reality she was for thinking that her childish lies could work with detectives... Even more fascinating is that those lies actually worked.
@Loc o Her attorney’s lies worked with the jurors, because IMO, they wanted to believe the BS being fed to them. For whatever reason, it was easier for them to accept her father, George, was the big bad wolf, instead of facing the reality that Casey’s a cold blooded murderer, who killed her daughter for the most selfish reasons possible. Whether people want to admit it or not, men & women are treated VERY differently in the court systems.
@Is it over yet? some attorneys are the real monsters for putting aside their morals and ethics just to benefit financially and/or keep their client success rates high.
@Is it over yet? the problem isnt the court system in the human evolution Humans are trained that woman needs to be protected and man not (you can work with 5 man and 100 woman to refill the population but not reversed) so the basic human nature is to help woman and rejekt man who need help because man are a burden.
The fact that the jury got pursuaded is crazy but what i really can't fathom is that these lawyers can plea her free knowing full well that she has killed her child. I could not live with myself knowing i have set free this monster back in society once again.... They actually take pride in it.. Makes me question who is the real monster there...
I'm confused if there was duct tape on the body of caylee, why did the defense say she drowned in a swimming pool? Uhh, there was literal duct tape showing she was killed in other means.
@darius its their job lol. Their job is to defend their client to the best of their ability. Which implies abandoning morality. That's how the system is meant to work.
@Is it over yet? As far as the jury is concerned, they very obviously bought into the idea that they needed to have some concrete proof of Casey murdering her daughter in order to indict her, which is just silly. We can't only convict killers who are caught on video killing someone. We can and do look at the body of evidence, including circumstantial evidence, to make conclusions. And the only line I think the defense really crossed was when they perpetuated the unprovable lie about Casey's father molesting her. It was a cheap, shitty, immoral and unnecessary thing to do and they knew it. That, plus even after the Not Guilty verdict was handed down, her lawyers did all of the media rounds saying that she didn't have anything to do with Caylee's death, which is both unnecessary from her lawyers and obviously a lie. Gaetz even wrote a book later pointing the finger at the father to make more money off the the trial. Anyone who believes anything Casey or her lawyer says really needs mental help.
to be fair, she told her lies very convincingly. if I hadn't known better, I would've 100% believed her just because of the way she told them and her confident tone. like how do you even do that? how do u lie that well? its terriying.
@Bullshit Department although I agree with you that it isn't out of the ordinary in the sense that many lawyers do this, to say it's their job and imply that the point of a lawyer is to defend a client even if it means to disregard the constitution is just questionable to me. also to say its their job kind of makes me think you're saying they arent allowed to decline the case, but they have every right to, which is the right thing to do in this situation.
@darius As a defence attorney if you are representing who you know is a monster you want to give them a very good trial, that way they can't re appeal for mistrials and therefore put the victim's and their families under the stress over and over again.
@Ghofran Alahmadi I'm not talking about her ability to lie, i'm saying that her lies were incredibly stupid. Telling cops about people that don't even exist and saying that you have a job that you actually don't have is just dumb.
Heard she’s doing okay. She’s living it up at parties and having a grand ass time. Heard she immediately called the police over a little cup of water being thrown at her which says a lot that she didn’t call police for her dead missing daughter that she murdered
@Angelic That's easy to say as an outsider, but we didn't sit through that trial hearing every piece of evidence and every word of testimony, and ultimately the jury did what they were supposed to do.
IDK if you've ever served on a jury in a criminal trial, but they tell you very explicitly that the state has to prove their case "BEYOND ANY shadow of doubt!"
That means if you don't think the state made a slam dunk case PROVING that the defendant DEFINITELY committed the crime, your duty is to vote "not guilty," regardless of what you think "might be" or "Probably is" true.
In the US we don't send people to prison over "might be" or "probably."
At least, we're not supposed to...
And sure, she LOOKS guilty as shit... But did the state actually PROVE that's the case?
But I will say A- googling suffocation seems pretty damning... And pretty stupid.
And B-- that damn lawyer was worth every penny! lol
@FromNothingICome You need to revisit the burden of proof for a criminal case, because you’re seriously wrong. The prosecution needs to prove guilt beyond any REASONABLE doubt, not beyond “any shadow of a doubt” as you said. They don’t have to make, “…a slam dunk case PROVING the defendant DEFINITELY committed the crime” as you said. That would be insane, tons and tons of guilty people would roam free. Instead, the prosecution has to make a case that any reasonable person has no reason to doubt that the defendant committed the crime. Our justice system leans towards allowing the guilty to go free rather than imprisoning the innocent, as this case sadly shows, but what you’re proposing is beyond nuts. I’m so glad our justice system doesn’t stand on the foundation you think it does.
@Shelby Young nope. That’s not why. The prosecution failed to explain HOW she killed her daughter. This is largely a failure on the part of the prosecution. The jury has to follow rules, you know. They can’t JUST reach a verdict based on how they feel.
@Realm of the misunderstood she at least could have been charged with lying to officers or neglect, since she admitted she had “no idea” where “Zanny” took Kaylee.
@Shelby Young was that also a lie, or did she actually get touched? That’s the question I would be asking. Following her long list of lies she was caught in, why should that be taken at face value? She clearly holds no respect for anyone or anything, so what’s to prove that the same doesn’t go for her parents? She spent several months lying to them daily. She didn’t love them any more than a dog loves its bone. Once the flavor is gone, it’s a useless husk that’s discarded.
That defense attorney did it..."So if you have any remaining questions, it hasn't been proven, and you cant assume', and all the jury went 'I guess not'. My question would be "who did it then Casey?", and not let her free till she finds someone who is guilty.
@FromNothingICome But is it 'proof, or 'doubt' that matters? No one had any doubt, reasonable doubt. No one had the proof, but it drew a circle tightly around her and no-one else. That removes doubt for me.
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@FromNothingICome she made up people she knew, people she hung out with, who does that to the police, who doesn’t care if she has friends or not. Only a habitual liar who can convince herself things did or didn’t happen. Something very wrong with her, no way she didn’t do it.
I read that too and couldn't agree more. 911 Dispatch: What's your emergency? Casey: They are throwing water at me! Dispatch: When did this happen? Casey: Like, RIGHT NOW!! (foot stomp) Dispatch: And what is your name? Casey: Casey Anthony Dispatch:...... Casey Anthony. Caylee's mom? Casey: Yeah, whatever. Are you gonna arrest these people for what they are doing to me? Dispatch: Yep. Call us back in a month. click dial tone
@Realm of the misunderstood Wow. You're bringing up stuff that happened much later in the case. The moment I heard "she has been missing a month and you HAVE NOT called the cops?", I was like, well this is an open shut case. I was so wrong. And you're right about how the case was handled. Poor shame. No justice for a little girl that is a ghost to everyone but her own mother.
@Totallynotkyubey How did this case go so wrong? And everyone watched it happen. Living with part of her defense team?! Geez! Isn't that conflict of interest or SOMETHING?
@Realm of the misunderstood They actually can. It's called jury nullification, look it up. A guilty verdict can be appealed, would be better with a new trial than letting the obviously guilty go free.
@Angelic some article i read said one of the jury says his verdict still haunts him 10 years later and wished he pushed harder for one of the lesser charges.
The best part about it is that Casey doesn't even bother to think about the consequences of her INACTION, as well as her actions. If she is willing to call the cops that quickly over something so silly, then there is obviously another reason she didn't call the cops when Caylee went missing. She really is a piece of work.
@Guitar Player Factory Channel they shouldn’t have let her out until they can find the culprit. I figure don’t let her just on the account of it took her 30 days to call the police. Negligence. I’m dumbfounded and can’t believe they got muffled up by a bunch of liars
yeah, and i recently learned once you’ve been tried for a crime and have been convicted not guilty for that crime you can’t be tried for that same crime ever again but makes so mad to know she’s a free murderer. caylee would be in high school now, she would be around my age, maybe a junior, getting for college and graduation and life and her mother took it all away
Bro you must have smoked some good Cali weed. There is no way in gods green earth this isn’t a case of “ complexion for the protection”. Say as you well, people are convicted in trails everyday in America. With the smallest amount of evidence. This woman had everything minus the body 🤣🤣.
@Shelby Young Narcissistic/Psychopathic women will lie about abuse in order to play the victim and get out of accountability. This is very common amongst the malignant ones
@Old Ironsides so you think that she didn't report her daughter and made up all the lies because she was innocent? Get out of town. She absolutely deserves everything she gets from the public.
@FromNothingICome People have honestly been in for far less. Did you see the one about the two false accusations. One of the dudes got two years and it was probably because the system had already chewed him up and spit him out before.
@Realm of the misunderstood they dont need to explain how she killed her daughter. Her daughter is dead, she was the last person to see her, she lied about absolutely everything, she didnt report her missing for 31 days. In australia she would have been founs guilty.
This was arguably the worst miscarriage of justice I've ever witnessed. My faith in the justice system was already dangling by a thread. This severed that thread.
@Nu-Metalfan 26 Yes. But then again he wanted to kill people that killed. That was the original idea behind Dexter. If you ask me, if Dexter was a real serial killer, I have no sympati for the worst killers he killed.
@Mr Ex Dexter wasn’t a vigilante he just wanted to kill, the show tells you Dexter has this issue of needing to kill. But it’s Harry that persuaded him to kill other killers. Dexter doesn’t care about justice or anything like that, he’s just fascinated by the act of killing someone.
@Leonardo Landi to be fair, this is what the founders one of the judicial system to be. Make sure a thousand guilty men can walk to prevent an innocent man being incarcerated
The thing wrong about this case is how incapable the prosecutors were in proving their claims. They didn't show sufficient prove therefore she couldn't have heen charged. I definitely think she did it, but this is the prosecutor's fault
You realize its not the system that's the issue, its the public citizens, the jurors. People like your friends, neighbors, coworkers. People have turned into idiot's who have zero common sense yet think they're brilliant....
@Zachary Moore Wrong. It was the prosecutor bringing the wrong charges. Each charge they brought (even the manslaughter ones) required proof of premeditated malicious intent. This could not be proved and left the jury no option to find negligent or culpable manslaughter (which is very feasibly what happened). Then the failed to bring other minor charges (e.g. disposal of body) which may have got some jail time. It's not the system, it's the poor use of the system in this case and it's ridiculous to blame the jury. They followed the law.
@Jamal Labarge zimmerman was on community watch duty, also you can follow people in public especially if you are on community watch, even with all that said it was trayvon who attacked zimmerman FIRST
I suppose in the end the court of public opinion has deemed her guilty, and she can no longer live a normal life as Casey Anthony, so in a way she’s receiving the punishment
Ultimately her punishment is that no one will ever believe a word she says ever again
This poor baby. I’ll never forget this case. It shook me to my core because how could anyone do what she did to her own child? And not have a single ounce of remorse. It’s sickening
Did you not listen to a single thing the video explained to you? You overlook the fact of what was said and discovered? How she masked everything up because she was sexually abused by her dad? It became part of her character. Psychologists during the trial gave testimony as to how this works. Why she was unable to display emotion. Jeez, you really drink that koolaid huh
I can’t understand why someone would take the cases as attorneys to defend someone who is clearly guilty of the crime… I couldn’t be a lawyer for that reason
What bothers me so much about this is how Casey could’ve very easily just asked her parents to watch Caylee and abandoned her with them. She’d definitely be shamed about it but her parents totally would’ve raised that baby no questions asked and she’d still be alive. The fact that she got away with it proves the “justice system” is a farce
Harold Jenkins but we can do something about it. They want us to think that way there is literally a few hundred people who run this world and they have power through this ignorance of we can’t do anything. compared to the billions that aren’t part of the plan we could easily change the world through revolution but it takes time a spark in the system. There is a thorough suppression in all major countries and we’re all realizing it. Our oceans are poisonous now through plastic particles existing in the microcosms of the water. This world is going to go through a major shift and they know it that’s why they’re scrambling to keep us in. Maybe not in our generation but maybe the next.
Wouldn't that just create this problem all over again? The same people who raised Casey raising Kaylee? Yeah she'd still be alive of but her kids survive?
@Kahlil Benjamin I was actually wondering she didnt get an abortion in the first place, but I am guessing from her patterns of behaviour that she probably waited way too long and just ignored the problem hoping it would go away until it was too late
@Harold Jenkins thats not a good excuse for the ample amounts of flaws a system that is extremely important to society... cant just be like "it is what it is" when people are literally getting away with murder...
Its a court of law. Not a court of justice. Justice went out the window when murderers and rapists started walking out of court scott free while theres people who get wrongly convicted and spend 20+ years in jail and all the courts give is a "sorry bout that"
@Leah From what I read, she wanted to get one but her mother Cindy was against it. There was also an infertile family friend who offered to adopt Caylee but once again, Cindy said no. Now, Casey could have tried harder to stop the pregnancy or to terminate her parental rights but given the messed up family's dynamic, I'm not surprised she decided to carry Caylee to term and keep her, probably hoping her parents would take care of her fulltime and she'll be free while still pretending she's a dutiful mother.
Either way, Cindy Anthony is also responsible for Caylee's tragic end and those who are trying to excuse her are bsing themselves
I agree with op, except that last sentence. The fact is that the American Justice System errs on the side of the individual INTENTIONALLY. This is an INTENTIONAL side effect of preventing tyranny. You complain that Casey Anthony and other criminals walk-free whilst some people are falsely imprisoned but don't realize you must err on the side of one or the other because of the FACT that you cannot be perfect. That is, first the framers accepted the reality that no system can be perfect and second, they decided that a system of by and for the people would err on the side of NOT falsely imprisoning innocent people at the expense of guilty people not being able to be convicted. A perfect example of this is our RIGHT to be free of illegal search and seizure- if the cops find the bloody knife in your house but didn't have the warrant that evidence is FINITO and cannot be used against you. Another example is the fact that you are presumed innocent- it's ALL SET UP THIS WAY to protect us versus the government. You were half-way to this conclusion in your own thought process when you realized the system has flaws and that the errors occur in both ways. You got lost when you stopped thinking there and just said it proves the system is a farce because it is not a farce it is one of the most efficient and fair systems that's existed- it'll never be perfect because perfect is not real you just have to get over that. Just imagine if the system wasn't set up with the mind set of "a hundred guilty walking free rather than a single innocent man imprisoned" and how many more of the falsely accused would be in prison right now?
Her parents were sick of watching the kid. She left Caylee with them all the time, and they were demanding that she do her job as a parent. Plus, the new bf didn't want kids, so there was no way Caylee had a chance.
Im still a bit curious to the paternity of Caylee. I remember the rumors at the time about her brother possibly being the father when they were talking about the disfunction of the family. Was it ever established who the father was? It was such a terribly sad case
If she'd done that they would have given her daughter all the attention and she would not have been supported by them financially anymore. Part of the way she snowed her parents was by using her daughter to exploit them. What would have happened to Casey if her parents knew she didn't love her daughter... or anyone else? They'd probably think they could help her but she knew they'd want her to try and she would lose all material benefits of their relationship until she complied. Worse for her point of view, she would lose her image and ability to manipulate along with it. Compliance and responsibility was the issue with mothering Caylee that Casey was trying to escape from -- an inconvenience. Selfishness. Nothing more. I think that is why she got off -- as contradictory as it sounds to most people; the jury members were either ignorant of her nature or reticent to see her as she was -- they had empathy and compassion and remorse for the death of Caylee and it was impossible for them to comprehend that Casey couldn't, that she didn't need any motive more than selfishness. She only feels for herself. The defense gave them reasons for their feelings, excused their consciences and told them that, "no, evil doesn't exists as a pretty young mother who looks like your daughters"
I mean you have no idea if her parents would do that.i had horrible up bringing an I GUARANTEE my parents would act the same way an would say they would take the kids BUT NO WAY WOULD. Tell me how you know that?
Michelle Cox she went on about how her dad was the best dad ever and how he was the greatest grandparent ever. I usually believe victims but this girl will lie about anything under the sun to save herself.
@Leah That's a strong possibility, however I also lean toward Cindy 'forbidding' it, and swearing she'd 'take care' of Caylee, saying anything she had to, to keep Casey from having an abortion. Sometimes I feel like Cindy used Caylee as a punishment against Casey. There were definite signs, like Cindy insisting on being the first person to hold Caylee after she was born, and making sure to mention it from time to time. I know if my mother forced me to have a kid, then stole that moment from me, and bragged about it, I'd be super pissed.
That's what I didn't understand, why kill her when you could've left her with them, maybe because she still wanted the attention from her parents but now they were giving it to caylee, she might have killed her daughter out of jealousy
@Chantyrose her parents were cracking down on her. Casey was missing events and hangouts and they were more important than anything to her. They wanted her to settle down and be a parent, and she never wanted to be. They were willing to watch Caylee, but not to the extent Casey wanted them to, and that was becoming a problem. Look how she went out every single night after Caylee was out of the picture. That was the only acceptable life to her, anything less was not negotiable.
@Leah I remember hearing in articles years ago she actually wanted an abortion but her parents said they would abandon there daughter if she did that. So she had the baby and then hated how much her parents loved there grandchild. This is why she took Caylee away for that month before killing her
@OwO Foxy it wouldve been up to her parents if they wanted to pursue child support payments through the court, which I doubt is something they would’ve done. In the US, child support doesn’t just automatically start up because your kid lives with someone else.
@its_your_girl zZ well, i don't think sexual abuse results in cold-blooded pathological lying but sure... and that was probably made up given her tendency to lie and her shady lawyer as speculation to sow doubt in the jury... (though i dont know how that ties back in to the case)
@ThePsychoRenegade you guys keep saying that because you want her convicted. But if you were ever charged with some serious crime, you'd be glad for the system we have.
@K Kat not a dumb argument at all. We are a product of our environment and genetics. I'm actually not sure that any of us really have choices in the higher sense. Going back to her case. Her family was definitely dysfunctional but in a subtle sort of way. I mean, they lived in an nice house, clean, fed, but you can definitely raise a fucked in the head person there.
Yah I caught that to! And in describing Jeff’s house being big n spacious for both kids-babysitter in the beginning and two three phases later it’s a nice apartment!! 😂 I mean come on I saw so much of that in this interview that it was overwhelming
@Ana Alves exactly, I can’t believe they didn’t convict her. Even if she drowned how could she be out partying and get tattoos about “life”? What kind of mother would do that?
@PEPPA PIG Janelle Anything would be better than no charges - obstruction of justice, child neglect, improper disposal of human remains... I mean they had everything to charge her with SOMETHING. I cannot believe she was just considered not guilty for all of it.
@Svölk She was convicted of 4 counts of providing false information during a police investigation and sentenced to 4 years (later reduced to 2 years) in jail.
@Jay Beam I think it came down to then saying they didn’t have the evidence to convict her, which legally, I can understand and the jury was in a tough spot. I think the prosecution should have done a better job with forensics making it impossible for the defense to answer or make up another story about! But yes you’re right, I think she just got into a bar fight recently over a guy.
@Ben Blake thats an interesting theory! You think so? I think they’re the type of family that sweeps things under the rug like when the mom said she was the one searching for chloroform when it was proven she was at work at the time.
@Aj I feel like that detective had her moving in the right direction until the second one came in and paused their conversation. I'm sure not intentional on his part to disrupt the momentum like that. But the way she was starting to use animated body movements (usually a sign of exaggerating/lying) and seemingly finally backed into a corner, I wonder what she might have said had that kept going?
@Brenda Reyes EXACTLY, you make excellent points!!! If he was such an abuser why would you let your daughter around him? And even if he did, (no evidence) although that would be a horrible horrible thing what does it have to do with her killing her daughter? Unless she’s trying to suggest that he killed Caylee which is laughable at best and still wouldn’t make sense… The poor guy thought about taking his life over all of this. Her parents not only lost their granddaughter but had the whole nation hating them for something their daughter got away with. This is truly something that should be studied in law school.
In a civil case it will ruin her case yes, in a criminal case No! In criminal cases it MUST be beyond reasonable doubt, not based on conclusions or speculations.
This case reminds me of that Netflix series in 2019 "How to get away with a Murder" But this case is absolutely Jaw-dropping!!!
She lied about her daughter being alive for weeks. She told lies throughout about her daughter being kidnapped until the end when it changed into her daughter drowned in a pool.
Her daughter was found in a bag in a swamp with duct tape around her mouth and nose. Who would take their deceased daughter and dispose of her body like that?
It’s supposed to be beyond a REASONABLE doubt. There is nothing reasonable about her defence story.
Psychopaths are born. Sociopaths are made. Enabling parents created this situation. If Casey goes into therapy, her parents would have to go with her due to enabling being a mental condition that's just as bad.
Yeap , it screams right in anyone's face ! ...Dont forget that dad was police officer , so no investigation was ever done on parents characters. We can only speculate what was happening in that house to produce such a character of a daughter.
@MsLoverofTruth my parents are extremely "enabling" yet i definitely have more empathy than the average person. people are born psychopaths, parents cant create a lack of empathy.
@LittleRainGames There are always those people who entirely blame the parents. Doting on your child does not guarantee them becoming a murder. With the amount of blame they are assigning the parents, they might as well be saying the grandparents murdered their granddaughter. Its ridicules. This video is an attempt to understand how specifically Casey developed like this. Raising another child exactly like Casey would not result in a murder.
But I would disagree with you on one point. A lack of empathy can be related to child abuse. This obviously isn’t the case here, but you can with some success reliably create emotionally disturbed children and adults through childhood abuse. That emotional disturbance can create dissonance between you and your fellow man. Empathy is an understanding. If you no longer perceive the same world as others because of altered perception how can you emphasize with them? You become an alien.
Lol, all these people blaming the parents, use your brain. Stop giving excuses, Casey made her choices by herself, period, nothing would've changed regardless of who her parents were.
@Staxlay Smith not all psychopaths are murderous or mean to people. All psychopathy entails is that the person suffering from it cannot empathize or relate to others on an emotional level.
She’s in jail in shu for two weeks and when she sees her parents greets them in the same bubbly manner that a 12 yr old would give when coming home from a girls wknd sleepover
In my opinion, we shouldn't blame the parents. If she's lied all her adult life, it's become a role she played. Maybe her parents loved her and were not ready to see their daughter as a liar.
@LittleRainGames I agree with you in a way, some of the most empathic ppl come from deplorable backgrounds &vice versa. I come from (luckily)a very loving supportive family as did a cousin of mine &he is a text book sociopath .
@LittleRainGames exactly, enabling behaviour and being a extremely doting parent can lead to a person being selfish or generally having a crappy character but definitely does not lead to murder , she was to either born psychopathic or had gone through some extreme trauma that led to it which might not have been mentioned/investigated.
@MiR Tra I agree, something was clearly happening growing up and her parents are almost in admition of her behaviour because they secretly know and expect it, i suspect something happened when she was younger to the daughter that the parents know about or were invovled in and shes using that guilt the parents feel to continually justify her behaviour probably evening making them feel its all their fault. She probably killed the child because people were giving her daughter more attention and praise than herself and did not like the spotlight taken away when she was born
I understand this frustration but, they really didn't prove beyond reasonable doubt that she was involved in the murder. It is clear she did, I don't doubt it for a second but I was in the same situation with my jury service where as much as our emotions wanted to say guilty, the counts were not proven at all. 0 true evidence. That's the shitty thing. Though, again, we don't know what the defense presented (they can be very very convincing).
@Jonas The main times jury system is used is when they judge themselves can't weigh the evidence because of the lack of evidence. Jury steps in to listen to every bit of evidence from both sides to help the judge basically and with 0 bias. It's tough but when there is, in this case, a body but no evidence tying her to it regardless of how 'sketchy' she seems, they really couldn't say she did it. I don't believe it's the jury's fault in this case, it's just the state really had nothing to work with even though they had found the body which is really really saddening. I personally believe she was involved as well, but sadly the evidence just wasn't there regardless of her constant lies (god knows how the defense weezed her out of that).
@Sarah S But still they had prove she was lying to the cops for weeks, even going to random places with them like how is there no punishment for that?
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Sarah S2021-06-15 16:09:38 (edited 2021-06-15 16:10:11 )
@NOXIA Agreed but I think we would need to see how the defense managed to make a "reasonable" excuse for that. Those guys are so freaking convincing it's insane - like in the case I was doing, the whole time I was like "no way this guy is innocent" with the evidence state provided and then BAM! The defense would come up and show a whole new perspective on things and you're just left questioning everything the state presented. I would love to see this whole trial if it's online just to see the whole thing
@NOXIA even still - I would be full mental if my kid was gone for a day let alone weeks !! At that age for sure ! Taser me cos wtf this about my kid !! Right ??
@Jonas bc at least in theory our system of justice and government tries to leave decision making up to multiple people. in practice, juries are insanely biased and cherry-picked by both sides.
@Sarah S I feel like that’s just objectively untrue. The only possible way she didnt kill her child based on thr testimony and court case is if the Flying Spaghetti Monster came down and drowned her kid and she meant the decision she made in her diary was accepting him as her savior
@Jonas if we had this then the cop that "killed" Floyd would've walked. He was a drugged up criminal no doubt about that. But I'm not siding with the cops here either, fk em'. They're just tools of the elitist owned system.
People tend to forget the difference between what you think or are pretty sure happened, and what can be proven in the court of law. And the case simply wasnt strong enough. Do i think she murdered her child? Ofc. Im pretty sure. Was the case strong enough to prove it? Not necessarily.
@Nayden Benchev Its a false presumption that one need direct evidence of someone doing the murder. Atleast in my country. If there is a lot of smaller evidence that gets you to a beond reasonable doubt conclusion, thats enough to convict someone. Im not sure about this case though, but there where a few hard hitting circumstantial evidence.
But as we know, they wherent enough to convict in this case. Was it a wrong conclusion? I dont know. Its all about that reasonable doubt.
@Kingof Grim I definitely agree that there is no other person in the entire world that would have done this to her, there is just no possibilities let alone reason. But unfortunately when you're in that situation of having this person's future in your hands and there are gaps in the evidence provided, regardless of what your heart tells you, you need to stick to the facts and the facts are that, unfortunately, there was zilch solid evidence tying her to the crime. Maybe one day new evidence can be found, I pray it does
@Juicesoap Contraptions I wanted to call u wrong but I would’ve been assuming the judge would rule fairly and against a cop and the way the system is, Ur right Floyd’s murderer probably would’ve walked with just a judge
@Nayden Benchev I mean they had direct evidence the child died as a result of duct tape over the mouth. Which kinda means in any case she is at the least going away for negligent manslaughter if she somehow managed to argue Caylee put it on herself
@Hypogonadism the case wasn’t strong enough….. that’s how murderers keep killing, rapist keep raping, people with very weak cases get years of incarceration, the prosecutor didn’t do a good job, the jury fail.
@Martin Luna Its allso how we keep innocent people from imprisonment.
Im not saying i view the case to weak for a sentence. Since i havent viewed the case. Im saying it clearly was to weak for the jury this time.
In Norway she most likely would have been convicted. Just based upon the evidence that was shown in this video. We view it differently i think. When there is a lot of circumstantial evidence, that body of evidence we rate much higher than in America apparently.
Reasonable doubt, can only go so far. And when you have a mother, who searches how to smother a child, then said child dies of suffocation, and she couldnt care less, has a clear and obvious motive, and didnt contact the police, that body of evidence becomes very strong.
Doesnt matter if there is evidence of the actual murder. The defence need to show reasonable doubt. And i dont think they did in this case. Regardless of what the prosecution did.
@Kingof Grim What do you mean direct evidence? That duct tape was over her mouth when they found her isn't actually direct evidence that it was there before she was dead or caused her death. That is the issue, that there isn't actually direct evidence that the duct tape is what killed her.
@Jonas that's not how justice works, you cant let only one person decide and have them decide on it all on their own. They could be influenced by other people. In no way am I agreeing with their choices because I believe 100% she's guilty. I feel like they should fix the jury though, they should have people that are detectives or people studying in the law field be the jury.
@Christopher Yacinthe I think you're missing the point. She received zero consequence for murdering her child or "tampering with a corpse" as she at least admitted to eventually.
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here nomore2020-08-02 02:12:40 (edited 2020-08-02 02:13:09 )
Exactly. If she drowned, why would casey bother to cover the mouth and nose with duct tape?
@here nomore imagine out partying at a "hot body contest" and renting movies with your boyfriend when your daughter had just supposedly drowned? I never thought they would let this maniac off. I am still baffled by it. I followed this case from the moment Caylee went missing. There was so much information, so much evidence, so much of her bad behavior on tape. She cared nothing about that baby. She didnt even want to talk about her. Unimaginable.
I think it's because she got "Time served".. Meaning she had been in jail for a long period of time and that time counted towards her sentence. I could be wrong though, someone please correct me if I'm wrong
@Moon Light well, is your friend foreign looking and not pretty? Then instantly his/her life is without value in this society. Your friend should have known.
Who would put duct tape on their kid if they accidentally drown? If it was an accident, why did she made it look like she was killed? Because they found duct tape on her, and who knows what else they found on her.
@Hsn Firas thank you, he was a good person he just surrounded himself with trash and made a bad choice, it was his first time getting arrested I thought they were going to give around 5 years, but thats how Texas is.
@Jackson Jett i think she did that to make up the better image of herself, like which mother would go out to party knowing her daugher is dead, meaning she knows her daughter is safe
@crowtservo I remember a fella threw a rock at the back of my head, splitting it open in school. His father rang my Mam to apologise and my Mam, said "ah he was probably asking for it"
@Chaldean Guy wdym the real criminals are her parents, there's a lot of people undergo the same way as she did but didn't murder their 2 yo daughter, what are you on about?? Her parents might've done something to drive her like that, but that doesn't mean she's clear from her crime bruh.
This is ridiculous. Either all of them knew how Caylee died and yet again had to cover their shits. I feel sorry for the little girl. I guess on the bright side she got away from that pathological family and passed as an innocent beautiful girl. Imagine her growing up in that household. I don’t understand how she was acquitted. Everything she said from beginning to end was already proof enough for me. I wish I was one of the juries.
@Creative Solutions strange family is right. "Hey gorgeous, how you doin''?" WTF? "Wanna be able to reach out and give you the big [he stammers significantly] the big Papa Joe hug." (And she reacts in distress tears- NOT tears because she wants a hug from him, because he is reminding her in a covert power play that she is helpless, and better play along.) He doesn't refer to Caylee. He says, "but cha know, we gotta get that little girl back." His grandaughter. He refers to her like THAT? Because it's a farce. He knows Caylee is dead and all of this is a ruse and Casey is expected to take the fall.
Looking at the comments, it appears only a couple people recognized even a fraction of how strange that "family" is. So much wrong. So many points along the way, things said, plus how they were said, and in the context they were said, it adds up to a different story than portrayed. People with complex developmental trauma sometimes survive in strange ways and find bizarre dissociative behaviors dominating their lives. It is never an excuse or justification, yet the affects of prolonged developmental trauma can lead people to do unthinkable things. Still terrible, yet different than if the person who behaved that way had never been through hell and had never had anyone to help.
The way that both Casey's parents acted on the phone/video call at the jail was weird, in numerous ways. But when the grandfather referred to Caylee, the way he did was creepy af. I knew that second something was WRONG there. I went back and watched again and noticed the way the grandmother leaned on the grandfather when he called his daughter in a profoundly inappropriate manner for all things considered, "hey gorgeous". UGH. Add that up with how her parents kept up appearances with a party (to serve their own interests) instead of taking a course of action like normal healthy parents would do to DEAL with the situation and problem solve to HELP their daughter get her shit together--- add it all up, the picture is far more clear.
Wasn't shocked when the defense brought up why Casey has an artificial persona. She's fucked up in the head bad, and her father was probably gonna do the same to her little girl. If he hadn't already started. Imagine - your own father abusing you, and he's a cop. Who do you go to for help? Mom is protecting him, in denial, and possibly also under his coercive abusive control. Wouldn't justify her failing to protect her daughter- but it explains it. All this is way more common than any of you know. Study the professionals. Not youtube. The work of Dr. Judith Herman and Dr. Bessel Van Der Kolk make this all add up in ways that nothing adds up otherwise. If Casey were a cold psychopath, she would have demonstrated signs sooner. She was instead traumatized, victimized chronically, and severely dissociated -- a walking shell of a girl keeping up appearances to serve her parents illegitimate "needs" and dying inside emotionally.
On the 911 call, I got my first red flags. The grandmother. Several things she said combined became an enormous red flag and were essentially incongruous. The video makers is dead wrong about the defense lawyer. Consummate professional. Also, watching Casey's face and her own father's while tje verdicts were read, yeah. He's the monster. She was victimized and no one actually knows how or what motive was behind the death of Caylee. Casey may have been acting as victims do, protecting her own abuser, the entire time. It would explain all of the bizarre behaviors. Better than any other proposed speculation. Wait. Who was the biological father of Caylee? Oh man. Now we have motive. Fucking hell. Geebus fuck fuck. Gah.
Been studying this stuff for years. In this case, I'm inclined to think justice was served. Partial justice. Casey's father needs to be investigated. Mother too, but pops is the perp, mother enabled him (and she probably survived an abusive home of origin too). Not all who suffer do go on to get ensnared by abusers as "partners" who then enlist them to abuse others, but it's terribly common. I watched this from the start believing (trying) the way it was presented. I couldn't ignore what I saw and heard though. And watching it the second time through a different lens, it ALL made more sense. No less horrific, but the pieces fit and some of Casey's behavior was less odd. She was lying and directing attention away from her parents (as expected) but was making herself look bad. But she hasn't been groomed to think of herself. She was groomed to be a sacrificial lamb to the people who were supposed to love and care for her needs.
@Sparky Thancztwise exactly!! I didn’t understand how in any of the comments no one seen any that. I did and as soon as the “hello gorgeous “ body language from mom dad and daughter was telling and their interactions very strange.
Yes. And this is one of the strongest reason to provide safe and anonymous abortion early on. Women who are not wired to be mothers but are forced by social or legal systems to become one end up being abusive or neglecting in most cases.
@RewiredHuman Yeah, I totally agree with Babyshark, but doesn't your solution remove his point. If "every child deserves parents," how would killing the child help?
@REcurve32 well if you kill the fetus before its a person, problem solved.
but seriously, legislating against abortion always ends in children neglect and abuse, not to mention it ruins the parents' lives if they aren't prepared or don't want a child. all lives involved are wrecked.
@David Himmelfahrt i mean sure, but in America, sex education is TERRIBLE and there are many places that lack access to affordable contraceptives.
So, the same people who want to outlaw abortion also dont want kids to learn about safe sex and dont want government funded healthcare and cheap/free contraceptives.
@REcurve32 I guess? I don't think that matters, not sure how that relates to my comment at all. But alright, the fetus is completely reliant on the pregnant woman for survival.
If someone is reliant on my nutrients and body to survive, it is my right to stop providing my body as a source for those things.
@Cole444Train I mean if you choose to have that person rely on your survival knowing the consequences it’s fucked up to just cut them off when it’s your fault they’re there in the first place
@Cole444Train The thing reliant on your nutrients is another life that in the future will be subject to everything you are as a living person. Just because it's reliant on you doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with it.
I agree with abortion, I just don't like the reason you provided. abortion is a way of preventing the potential suffering the child may suffer being neglected and the potential suffering the woman may suffer as a consequence of an unwanted pregnancy.
Since the women's suffering is much more present and therefore vital than that of an unborn baby it's safe to give all the rights for the woman to decide, but if there's ever a way to continue the pregnancy while being sure that neither the woman nor the children will suffer any consequences then we should do so.
@Ouroboros Regardless of how it effects others, I cannot be forced to donate the use of my body. that's why we ask if people want to be organ donors. It is my body, your body, etc. We can always choose to keep it to ourselves or do whatever we want with it.
Outlawing abortion doesn't afford women that choice. It's basically saying "i don't care that it's your body, you must do this." Bodily autonomy is a very important right for all individuals.
Of course it would be nice of my to keep someone alive if they depend on my body to do so, but that doesn't mean i dont have the right to choose.
@Cole444Train Well, my thinking is that because a fetus is distinct from its mother, then it would fall under the classification of personhood. Similarly, someone who is comatose still counts as a person, despite being reliant on their medical machines.
I think we agree there, but where I lose your train of thought is when we can stop providing resources. -- If a person had, out of desperation, plugged their oxygen machine into my outlet, would it be okay to take it out? I don't particularly think the person on oxygen had much of right to use my electricity; however, now that he exists, wouldn't unplugging him be a form of manslaughter?
I think that works quite clearly when the mother can provide for the child, but when there isn't enough for both... although, I suppose that brings up a different question about distribution.
@Cole444Train Bodily autonomy only matters when inflicting on it's autonomy will bring distress to the person. If donating organs was a completely harmless thing I think people who refuse to donate their organs because of body autonomy would be looked down upon because essentially, they wouldn't lose or suffer anything. That was my point.
Guess I came off as being too confrontational. Wasn't my intention. You can't feed others if you are starving. Attempting to create life when you aren't willing nor able to nurture it is pure insanity.
@Ouroboros donating organs is a completely harmless thing. choosing to be an organ donor when you get your driver's license means you agree to donate your organs after you die... how does that harm you?
@David Himmelfahrt “just don’t have sex without condoms” if only someone thought of that before, how insightful, sounds like you have a future career in policing
Maybe people should have close watch on parents and not be afraid to step in if they see their parents behaving inappropriately instead of saying that they don’t want get involved in family business or let them get a pass just because their grown ups. Kids don’t need parents, they just need people that can fill that role for them, adults that are capable at raising kids. They don’t have to be related through blood.
It wasn’t proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The juries job isn’t to give there personal opinion on whether they think she did it or not. I would personally wager that she killed her daughter, but if I were on the jury solely looking at the facts presented, I would find there was room for doubt.
@YoungMasterWilliam BS. Explain the hair and dead body odor in the trunk. Explain the fact that she did not care to contact the police about the missing. The grandmother called after 30 days. How long was she planning to wait? How long would you wait to call the cops for your child? More than 30 days?
They overcharged and lacked vital evidence like cause of death. I told my mom during this trial they went hard on the murder charge and she was gonna walk. She did it but the law is the law and it sucks
@Jef Alpante the lawyers just did their job to make the justice system fair. Without lawyers on both side a lot of innocent people would go to jail (more than already do)
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Steven Banks2021-05-12 22:01:32 (edited 2021-05-12 22:02:15 )
@Jef Alpante everyone is entitled to defense, whether they're guilty or not. The job of a defense attorney is to make the prosecution prove it's case beyond a reasonable doubt. It's essential to our justice system. The true failings were in the prosecution, and whatever the bullshit instructions the judge gave the jury. And the jury as well, honestly.
@MsKezza333 it wasnt the juries fault, the prosecution overcharged her. You cant charge a death penalty case with only circumstantial evidence. And the defense attorney isnt bad either, he did his job and he did it well. Everyone is entitled to a defense regardless of how horrible we think they are. If you start picking and choosing who is allowed to have a proper defense and who is not we run into much bigger problems
Say what you will, but Jose Baez was amazingly effective in the case, even if he did participate in things he'd criticize the prosecution for. Did Casey kill Caylee and dispose of her body? All signs point to yes. At the very least, did Casey know what happened? Absolutely. But you're all proving Baez's point. Take emotion out of it. Like JCS said, that closing argument saved her ass -- the constant drilling into the jury's heads that the court of law does not run on emotion but proven evidence was brilliant. It put just enough doubt into play and essentially told the jury "Did you personally see Casey put tape over Caylee's mouth? Did you personally see her dump the body? Is there photographic evidence of the crime? No. Then there's doubt." It's a sleazy move that let a horrible person walk free, but damn, Baez was good. In this instance, I wish he wasn't.
The verdict was correct. If you cannot prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt, you cannot convict. Doesn't matter if she did it or not, our penal system couldn't prove it. I just wish every trial was prosecuted in this manner, especially a certain recent high-profile case.
@YoungMasterWilliam Thank you, fuck... looking at the rest of these comments, I am terrified of what our judicial system has become. Innocent until proven guilty is fucking GONE in America.
@Wesu Maru would you still have the same response if that was your baby that was found dead? The truth of the matter is that the judicial system is not fit for purpose. It cannot fully deliver justice with 100% accuracy consistently. The real fundamental issue is our technological capabilities don’t meet the needs of evidence capture yet.
@Wesu Maru The key word is ‘reasonable.’ I agree that too many innocent people are being put behind bars, but we also don’t have to have pictures, a DNA profile on the body, and the cops witnessing her drowning her daughter. As the comments in this thread and every other thread have shown, there is no reasonable person who doubts her guilt. 100% say: ‘she did it, but...’. I will concede that I would rather have a system that lets too many guilty people walk than innocent people locked up. I just don’t believe this case is one of those cases on the fence. For egregious examples of cases with serious reasonable doubt, check out Sandy Melgar or Daniel Holtzclaw.
@Wesu Maru What? That’s not a distinction. Not a reasonable person on the planet has any doubt as to her guilt based on the substantial circumstantial evidence. Again, we don’t have to have video of the crime to convict a person. Cartesian certainty isn’t the standard.
im fuming mate, whenever iwatch this guys videos im always like "well at least they got what they deserved" and im always so glad when the verdict comes out guilty, i was like wtf how has she gotten away with murdering her own child.
Livid? Bruh she a white lady in the US and A. The only surprise I got from this case that she didn't receive any recompensation for stress caused by the trial.
@Jef Alpante Getting angry at the defence attorney doesn't make any sense. Anyone standing on trial in the US is entitled specifically to a zealous advocate. Not an apathetic advocate, not an ambivalent advocate - zealous. They have an ethical obligation to provide the best defence they can and they're going up against the state, which always has every conceivable advantage and resource at their disposal without limit. The defendant's counsel did absolutely nothing wrong in their argumentation, it was the state and jury who botched the trial and are now responsible for letting someone who committed infanticide off the hook.
@j a it doesn’t matter if she was a woman or man, white or black. The prosecution proved she was a liar but failed to prove anything else. Don’t get me wrong I 100% believe she’s guilty! But they lacked any evidence to tie her to the death. They couldn’t determine the cause of death. All her defense had to do was raise reasonable doubt and they did. It’s one of those weird cases just like oj where everyone knows they did it they just can’t prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
@j a This bias is even apparent when the defense accuse Casey’s father of sexually assaulting her at a young age, instead of accusing the mother or both, to make it seem more likely it actually happened, and to present the bias reasonably.
@j a thats sadly cery true. In a lot of cases women are actually given less of a harsh sentence than a man for the same crime due to this nature and its disgusting.
@PanPan there's literally no evidence of that he just said that it's funny because his entire thing is evidence but then almost everything that he was saying I had no evidence
@Connor Nyhan I’m a married white woman and I totally agree with @j a. She never would have gotten off if she was black or Hispanic, or a man in general.
@j a I kind of agree with your initial statement, yet some points were doubtfully correct but imma add this, the sentence may depends on the jury's decision and the jury is retrospectively made to be neutral and to able to give an answer/a sentence (that's their job) about the whole situation whatever if the charged is a man or a woman. Either way, if there's not enough evidences, the accused may not be found guilty and this applies on both genders. Finally, society related, we all have to agree on the fact that men (generally speaking) may be way more disturbing/worrisome than women and so, that some women can have it easier done than said.
@ella Spot on! About most of the crimes in america are committed by men, so of course there's female privilege! But I don't dare to talk about that you know, let's ignore that and talk about race.
@No Name happens a lot more then you think. And if you truly think being detained for 10-30min because u match the description is worse then a murder walking free u got a problem
@j a What the hell are you talking about? What bias? The majority of people disagreed with the verdict. 12 years later and they still do, most people think she killed her daughter. The jury did not like her at all...
From the Wiki page: "Juror number two, a 46-year-old male who requested to stay unidentified, told the St. Petersburg Times that "everybody agreed if we were going fully on feelings and emotions, [Anthony] was done". He stated that a lack of evidence was the reason for the not-guilty verdict: "I just swear to God ... I wish we had more evidence to put her away. I truly do ... But it wasn't there." He also said that Anthony was "not a good person in my opinion". The prosecution had a theory about what happened, there was no cause of death, the reason she was found not guilty is because there was no evidence, not because of bias in her favour. In fact, people are biased against her, because she did not behave the way we would expect a grieving mother to behave, that's not enough to prove murder though.
@j a "agreeing with blatant murder" lol... The autopsy was done on skeletal remains, the cause of death was undetermined, it was impossible for the medical examiner to figure out what exactly killed the little girl.
@ella the fact that men commit more crimes doesn’t negate the fact that women are treated with more leniency. her being a woman did help her receive the not guilty charge.
@j a Well, I didn't mean to come across as an asshole, or an "angry feminist" lol. I just disagree that bias had anything to do with the way this case turned out. I mean, look at this comment section, most people think she did it, so I see no bias in her favour that's all. There is a bias against men definitely, probably because most violent crimes are committed by men, men in general are seen as more of a danger than women. A lot of people get away with murder and a lot of innocent people are in jail when they shouldn't be. In this case, I followed the trial when it happened, and I have more faith in the jury than I have in public opinion, if that were me, I wouldn't feel comfortable sending anyone to Death Row unless I was 100% sure.
@Yung Slae oh yeah as the jury must be unanimous, im sure exactly what was going through every single juror's mind at the time of the trial was "if she was black i would vote to convict." also, have you even watched the trial before making this baseless claim? the defence did an impeccable job.
@dannyboyc3po well the comment section is meant to be about the video.. don’t wanna spoil it for ur self..? Wait til the end we’re not gonna be here talking about skittles
@Calxn if that’s all you honestly believe is the case… I’m sorry for how out of touch you are, but at the same time, I’m happy u at least acknowledge systemic racism
@Alina Prodan they found it was definitely a homicide, as well as the things used to kill the child next to it…. It’s like having a bullet hole in someone and a gun matching the gun fired, but because you don’t see the bullet that hit him, you assume they weren’t shot
@William Stewart using OJ is kinda hilarious considering the whole reason he got off, was because unfortunately, The civil rights movement helped the guilty man walk free, because of the racist cops who dealt with OJ… but go on
@William Stewart Youre using one of a few cases, we’re using one of thousands…. Hundreds of thousands over the history of the US but I digress.
Ur comparing a court case filled with corruption, racism, publicity, and jurors who admit they were blinded by the media to Casey, who is clearly guilty beyond all doubt and yet got off scot free. I guarantee you that would never have happened to a POC
@Alina Prodan you either didn’t watch the video, trial, or both. They found a dead body of a baby in the swamp, who was found with tape over their nose and mouth. Idk about u but that doesn’t sound like drowning.
Also they concluded it was definitely a homicide JUST BASED ON SKELETAL REMAINS which means it was pretty much 10000% sure it’s a homicide. The only way Casey is innocent is if she made the child kill themselves or had her boyfriend do it
@Kingof Grim As I said before: skeletal remains were found, do you understand what that means? Can you imagine what that looks like? There was no duct tape found on the mouth and nose because there was no mouth and nose, there was very little soft tissue left on the skull...it had decomposed...the duct tape was stuck to hair. This was actually debated at trial. The death was ruled a homicide because there was a very high suspicion of foul play; but the actual cause of death was IMPOSSIBLE to be determined. At that point you have investigators trying to figure out what happened, presenting theories etc... I never said the girl drowned, what I said is: the cause of death is unknown. Which makes proving murder a lot more difficult
@No Name that has nothing to do with the case what so fucking ever. It’s clear as day she did it. And the gender bias leads to people not being seen guilty cause of their gender not being guilty cause of their gender
@No Name no she was found not guilty cause the jury believed she was innocent. No Innocent person has their car smelling like decomposition, waits a month to inform the cops, and lies the cops repeatedly
@ella what is the correlation from leniency to what gender commits more crimes on average? Are you saying that it’s obvious they get leniency because women commit less crimes ? So we aren’t judging by the individual anymore? Also you believe that the system is corrupt to suit the needs of white people but couldn’t possibly be corrupt in sexism ? Is racism and sexism really that far apart in your mind? Does that mean some people deserve equality before others ? I wouldn’t be calling anyone a dumbass because what you said is objectively non sensical and your backwards thinking isn’t progressive for anyone, I doubt that there is a single person out there of any race, sex, religion that would want you speaking for them.. you acknowledging systematic racism while refuting the existence of sexism is disgusting
I've showed more emotions over my minecraft dog dying than her showing emotions for caylee. I even built a fucking memorial that took hours to build for my dog.
I mean does it really matter? The globalists are going to push us into a new world order soon using the great reset and the plan is to get rid of a large portion of the population over the course of a decade. Fuck it i say let her party it out while she has the time
@Megan Maleficent Human beings are biologically programmed to be protective of their own race. To a lesser degree, the same goes for class. It's science. Throughout the world in general, the numerically dominant race dominates in just about every respect.That's not the whole story, but it does play a much larger role than BLM et al. like to admit. The United States has been majority white for a long time (I'm aware of the crimes of the latter; I'm simply making a point).
It's also had a huge middle class for a long time that likes to identify with classes above it because that's human nature too. Lots of middle class folks are opposed to massive tax hikes for the rich because they see themselves as being rich someday. When you put those things together, it's not that surprising that missing white children of the middle class or above make headlines. Obviously, racism plays a role. But it's way, way more complicated than the BLM narrative allows.
I suspect that if a doll-like, monied, minority female child went missing, with her hot sociopathic mom as the main suspect, it would garner tons of attention. But all that aside, white America's majority is rapidly shrinking. The imbalance you describe will naturally correct itself over time. Activism may speed it up, but it'll only play a part.
Finally, there's another injustice at play in this story that skips the question of race altogether. If Caylee's dad had done everything that Casey did, he would have been found guilty for sure. Women are indescribably privileged when it comes to this kind of crime (& many others). I think if we could all calm down somehow & try to view the whole picture together, it would be of enormous benefit to cultural harmony.
@TomHud There's no way Trump would be reelected, the NWO had already chosen Biden as the new puppet long time ago. In a fair world Trump would be 2020 president.
@Megan Maleficent circumstantial evidence is considered legitimate evidence in the United States. It is completely possible and even common for people to be found guilty of a crime based only on circumstantial evidence. Indeed circumstantial evidence is often considered more reliable than direct evidence, as something like security footage of a person leaving the scene of a crime with a weapon (circumstantial evidence) is more reliable than a witness testimony to the person committing the crime (direct evidence) considering possible mistaken identity.
In this case the circumstantial evidence is very strong.
Casey claimed to have spoken to her daughter within a week of the 911 call. This is impossible if forensics are considered. A single fact like this has been sufficient in other cases to put people in prison.
Casey misled police by taking them around town, actions which by her own admission only hurt the chances of them finding her daughter. While not evidence of any further crimes, this is itself a crime, and is not the action of a concerned mother looking for her children. It’s a bit like being seen in the area where an armed robbery recently occurred while wearing a ski mask and brandishing a gun. Inferential evidence.
Casey did not act in a manner which was in line with her innocence. She didn’t call the police when her daughter went missing, her mom had to do so. Even if we assume that she was afraid, what did she do to try to get her daughter back?
The smell of death reported from the car is another point.
The provable fabrication of every detail of Casey’s story another. Why would an innocent person do that? Why not just say the actual name of the kidnapper? Or the actual circumstances surrounding the disappearance?
@Megan Maleficent Are you? Many murderers get either exonerated or end up going free because some piece of evidence gets thrown out. Doesn't mean they aren't guilty. You said there's so many innocent women of color convicted of killing their children but the one name you gave me wasn't even convicted of that. Where are your facts?
@Megan Maleficent 1) I didn’t mention the google search history because I don’t find that evidence very convincing
2) I am arguing that the case against Casey was very strong because of how strong the evidence was. If another person was locked up in an identical case that strengthens my argument.
3) the name of the kidnapper given was an outright and provable fabrication.
4) I’m not arguing that race has no impact on the treatment of suspects in criminal justice system. It definitely does have some impact, however I would argue that Casey Anthony didn’t get off because she was white. Many white people are in prison based on weaker cases, as have members of all races, creeds, and social status. I find the verdict inexplicable in light of the evidence, and do legitimately wonder about what must have happened in the jury room, though I think the majority of the credit must go to her legal team.
@Megan Maleficent true about pretty white women getting more media attention which can help to close these cases, however the sentencing is about the same when priors are taken into consideration with all races. Women seem to get off easier, which bares out in statistics. The court system as shitty as it is, still seems to be mostly fair.
@Megan Maleficent I disagree. The state had a weak case. Just like with OJ. We know both her and OJ are guilty but when evidence is tampered with like in OJ, than it is hard to take any police witnesses seriously, and with her the state used pseudo science such as a smelling machine which hurt them, plus the state failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that her positive defenses were untruw
@The Mecoptera those facts and others you brought up make it 99% likely that she is guilty, but in the united states we say it is better for one million guilty people to go free that one innocent be even accused of crime. 99% likelihood is not enough to meet the reasonable doubt burden
people get killed by the police but people who make others suffer get to be free. i guess when they said that she's sane, they're referring to the true nature of humans which is to be cruel. if that's the case then im happy to be insane.
Defence actually was ethical. Prosecution fucked up big time, overconfident, lazy, sleepwalking on the idea that it’s a slam dunk. While the defence brought out all the stops.
Ask urself first, y she doesnt show any emotion talking to her father, even him telling her about hus T-Shirt, showing her missing daughter. And then ask urself, y her father never adresses her situation, being kept in prison. This can be interpreted in 2 ways. Shes killed her daughter- at least its so likely she did, that one must assume so. Try to interpret her behaviour not just in one way though. Try finding a pattern in her behaviour, which explains all her behaviors to at least 90 percent- or as much at least, as makes u get a clue out of it and her behavior alltogether makes sense.
ok ALL evidence was pointing towards her, and even wrote in her DIARY abt how much fun she’s had the time period of her daughters supposed ‘missing’. They now release her with clear evidence, so now that she’s cleared they are just going to leave her daughters murder uncleared, possibly like who tf is the killer if it’s not her mother, who else could know and want to potentially kill a 6 year old girl. Story does not add up, yes, props lawyers for trying their best to win the case of trying to kind casey guilty, but to lose such a clear case? i don’t know how that happens and i don’t know who to give props to, the offensive team for being good lawyers and some how convinced the jury, or props to the jury for not seeing the evidence. beats me, not like she’ll have a normal life, no insurance, no company, no house land owners would want her anywhere near. but still, she needs to be in jail.
Wow she is such a liar. The only reason she is afraid of seeing her mother when her daughter went missing, is because she had a guilty conscience. I mean if I panicked about my child being missing, I would immediately call someone for help, in fact, I would call several people.
I’m absolutely disgusted by this woman but I really gotta admit, she is a very skilled speaker/liar her nonchalantess when she lies is so scary bruh 💀, if she had a few more brain-cells she might’ve actually pulled something off
Notice how she keeps saying “I haven’t seen her in 5 weeks” Because that’s a true statement. And she thought that by wording it that way - she wouldn’t show signs of lying since she did kill her daughter 5 weeks ago. Or whatever.
LOL, I didn't realize that Merle updated his favorite way to make her explode in pure bliss, it’s amazingly satisfying. Although what he suggested before was fairly good, it doesn’t even compare, I did it go’ogling Merle Winestol, and she just can’t have enough now.
Disturbing that her parents discovered she was lying about not being able to graduate school and still threw her a graduation party and pretended she had a degree to all of their family members.
It shows you that this behavior was not only always around in Casey, but it was rewarded and never punished. She truly thought she could get away with anything in life so long as she keeps up the lies and so far she really has.
Yeah, I have seen that unfold badly in my own family, where one member has always been rescued by his parents, so he has never learned to deal properly with situations that go bad. Parents that let their kids get off the hook in every situation is unintentionally doing them a disservice.
@Piper Mccoy the parents were probably trained by police to get her to give them clues about the child's whereabouts or to confess. Beside's that 9 days without seeing her when she was in jail is a lot of time for police and parents to fill in how her growing up really was. Atm she said "you have been the best grandfather" "she had the best grandparents" is was obv the girl was gone. Her dad talking all kind is a way to make her trust them so she could tell what she really knew about her kid's "disappearance".
@Piper Mccoy so when two people are conversing and you are beside one of them. You would stare at the opposing person throughout the whole conversation.
she got away with murdering her child and she's is not the first and at this rate she wont be the last. i wish i had not watched this as i am infureated by the verdict.
In a recent article, she now lives in Florida, owns a private investigation firm, and LIVES WITH PATRICK MCKENNA. She says she does not want answers for caylee, that's a closed chapter in her life (cause she's the one who closed it) and she's not opposed to having another kid
It makes me sick that after all the blatant lies and atrocities, Casey is living her life freely while the poor child that she brought to this world didn't even get to enjoy a glimpse of it, because she was murdered by her own mother. No one with a grain of salt in their mind actually believes she was innocent. The prosecution didn't, the defence didn't, even the jury didn't, and yet they left her go completely unpunished, because of a "lack of evidence". A murderer, which is considered to be guilty by all parts involved, went unpunished because of the rules of the system, even though the system itself knew she was guilty. I've seen cases with much less physical evidence result in very harsh sentences in US trials. It just makes me sick. How can this case go without a culprit? If Caylee died by accident, how was there duct tape on her body? How were there "foolproof suffocation" searches done by Casey? And most of all, if Caylee had indeed died by accident and Casey was just scared to report it, how are there photos of her nightclubbing, dancing and smiling in the days immediately after the "accidental" death of her daughter? How is there footage of her casually buying a movie with her boyfriend on the very same day her daughter died "by accident"? How does she go and get a Bella Vita tattoo not even two weeks after her daughter "accidentally" died? How does she write on her diary that she is "happier than she's ever been"? If your child dies by accident, how can you be happy, let alone happier than you've ever been? It's literally IMPOSSIBLE, it's straight up bullshit, these are literally the actions of someone who is happy and convinced that she's gonna get away with by simply avoiding to say that her daughter is missing or dead, cause she's always lied and she's always got away with it in the end. And the thing that hurts the most is that she got away with it again, all that matters in the end is that Casey WON. Justice didn't win, the justice system didn't win, the attorneys didn't win, nobody won, but Casey WON. She got exactly what she wanted. She's the only one that won. While her daughter and everybody else lost.
There's time for everyone, you may lie, you may run, you may hide, but destiny will catch up sooner or later, one day. I know a lot of people are going to go on full hate about this, with questions like "If He exists why did he allow this to happen" and blabla, but believe me when I say, that God will make her pay. Sooner or later, if not in this life, then in the afterlife. But her time will come, don't you worry, if she truly is the murderer of her daughter, then she will not escape fate.
Dont worry my guy... like many other lost souls who have not yet paid for their sins, she will pay for it with interests in Hell. She will most likely die ALONE and a horrible one too
I don't think "rules of the system" is the best way to describe the wrongness, even the judge was shocked that she walked. Based on what I've read and this vid, the jury just were too afraid to sentence her to death without a smoking gun, with a prison sentence I suspect it would've been different. It didn't help that the parents apparently tried all they could to save her, and acted pretty shadily.
@roger douglas If you had read what the commenter said, then you wouldn’t believe Casey’s daughter simply drowned in a pool. Duct tape on the corpse? Pictures of the mother clubbing and partying days after the incident? An entry in the mother’s diary saying she’s “happier than she’s ever been”? I call bullshit on her daughter accidentally drowning. Not to mention how you admit to not reading any of it and remaining ignorant to any other information involved.
@roger douglas just to CLARIFY her daughter was murdered by her mother. This innocent beautiful little girl, murdered by the evil woman who brought her into this world.
this is why these videos suck because they are very misleading and guided towards the creators intent. its on record what happened. daughter drowned in pool. mother panicked and wrapped her up in blanket and duct taped it to stay shut. sure she may have gone over the face in the process. dumped body so mother wouldn't kill her for how stupid she was to let this happen. end of story. you shouldn't try and assume the worst out of people, especially when all you are doing is listening to what a random youtube video tells you.
@roger douglas if you did your research, you would know that after all of the lies that zanny “kidnapped” her daughter (why the fuck would she lie about that) detectives finally figured out that she lied about everything. Graduating, pregnancy, zanny, and most importantly the fact that her daughter was MISSING FOR MONTHS before FINALLY her MOM HAD TO REPORT HER. She didn’t tell her mother OR her father OR her brother that her own DAUGHTER was missing. Caylee’s decomposing body was IN HER CAR while she stayed at her boyfriends house. Then she lied in court about how her FATHER molested her, all the while her father getting pushed off the edge, attempting to end his life. She got off with 3 years of prison some of which were for completely unrelated crimes. You are standing up for a murderer. A woman who murdered her OWN daughter and then let her body decompose before finally wrapping her up in a blanket and throwing her in a ditch. She deserves life. And you do not deserve to be commenting on ANYONES post. Ever.
@DANIEL MCQUADE Not exactly. We could blame the jury, yes, but as seen in the video the fault falls on the prosecution. The reason Casey Anthony is living her best life right now is that the defense was just pretty good at their job. Prosecution allowed the defense to control the case, failed to argue against the simple facts that an accidental death wouldn't end up with a taped and bound body, and didn't argue the fact that the defense was emotionally manipulating the jury while arguing accusing the prosecution of doing it.
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roger douglas No she didn't. Her mother killed her. Period. She went to blockbuster a day after she claimed she went missing with the nanny, she got a tattoo a week later saying something about living life to the fullest, she went partying during the month her daughter was supposedly missing, she wrote in her journal that she "hoped the means justified the end and that she was happier than she had been in awhile." This written by a women who supposedly thought her daughter was missing. Don't be stupid.
@S You dont have to believe me. Just google "Casey Anthony firefox history" and find out for yourself. And theres nothing new that can come up that would re-open the case. She was tried and found not guilty. Its over
@Onix A. Rodriguez I know. Im saying that the case wouldnt have needed a re-opening and 2nd attempt if the prosecution hadnt been so inept the first time.
@michael brinks She is with her defense attorney and they just opened an investigation business together. She will be perfectly fine. Man doesn’t always reap what he sows.
@Lady Helix That figures, she's with a lawyer.If a defense attorney can get a child molester/murder off that they know is guilty. They will, not caring that they're gonna murder another kid if they go free.
@roger douglas I truly, truly can not fathom how you can listen to this woman speak and buy into the utter bullshit that she spews. Like she literally admits to lying to law enforcement in the middle of an investigation. And for what? She says she is scared? That immediately points to a greater concern for her own welfare, rather than that of her 3 year old child. It actually amazes me that someone could be so gullible that they would believe an admitted pathological liar
apparently she’s been getting assaulted in public recently and having drinks thrown at her at bars. it’s not enough of a punishment I hope she gets the punishment she deserves
I just wish everyone knew the type of people that run the whole system. They would of basically fucking loved that a little girl was killed and I promise you that’s why Casey got off. Crazy I know.
@Little_hunt3r read a news article that said she was 2 blocks from my house at a bar a couple weeks ago, and that she regularly goes out to the bars here. If i ever run into her here i don't know what I'll do. But ill do something.
No job will want to hire her, I’m sure there are a lot of people who don’t want to be around her. She’s going to be a lonely person…and karma will get her
@Hideyoshi Just because she is living freely now doesn't mean God has let her walk away free, justice isn't always swift, neither is punishment. Sometimes our Lord works in mysterious ways, payback time will always come.
Child is missing for 30 days: Doesn't call police, goes partying, writes in journal "best day of my life" person spills water down her leg: calls police in 3 seconds flat
Won’t be the last time Casey will lie her way out of trouble and her parents will enabler her to do so. They created a monster and now they have to continue to feed the beast. RIP little one. You deserved better than these ugly people whom I’m sure karma is waiting for.
Is ot odd that watching this in 2022 the oddest thing I took away from this video is that they still had Blockbuster Videos in 2008? I thought they died off long before that lol
1. She never called police once. 2. She in no way showed concern for the wellbeing of her child. 3. She lead detectives to multiple fake locations. 4. She lied about having a nanny. 5. She lied about where she was. 6. She lied about who she was with. 7. She Googled how to suffocate someone.
8. The mother said her car smelled like a dead body. 9. She showed no sympathy to her parents and loved ones. 10. She wrote in her personal diary she has never been happier. (knowing her daughter is missing at this point) 11. Caylee had duct tape on her mouth and nose and died of suffocation, yet Casey and her attorney said she had drowned. 12. Regardless of any facts against Casey Anthony, Casey still dumped a 3 year old little girls body in a swamp 4 days after her death.
Facts helping Casey Anthony: 1.
... (Edit: After reading some of the comments on this post, I now understand why Casey Anthony was found not guilty.....sad)
@cowqult how did that ruin it. It's true, she even had sexual interactions with her own attorney. She used her... "good" looks during court as well. It's the white woman tears and the incompetence of the prosecution.
@Butterfly Xx Thanks :-) also to prove that yes, it is helping that she's a woman: whenever a mother murders a child or a child goes missing or ends up dead, it makes international news. Because people cannot believe that a mother (a woman), would do something so heinous to their own child or anyone because women are "nurturing," and yada yada. So they don't except Casey to do something like that, if it was a man, he would've gotten a jail sentence real quick. Sad, but true.
@imnotglutenfree exactly and it really frustrates me that the jury couldn’t look away from that and focus on all the lying and shit she had done its rlly crazy
@Warne Goodman but it still pointed any suspicion or evidence to her like how are you gonna go through all of that and her ending up laughing it off and saying it was a lie and still say that shes not guilty??? (the part that she laughed it off was when she took them to universal studios and led them to a dead end multiple times) like what??? 😐
@Warne Goodman Googling how to strangle someone, being the last person to see that person alive, AND the victim being strangled as well, DIRECTLY connects her to the crime.
Facts helping Casey Anthony: 1. No direct evidence. No eyewitness, no confession, no murder weapon (duct tape was never proven to be the cause of the baby's death)
Not saying Casey is not a liar or a horrible mother cause we all know she could care less about her own child but it doesn't necessarily make her a murderer.
@shine l She lied about the nanny... direct evidence right there, Its a conflict of interest for her to lie. She claimed the nanny must of done it. That was her whole defense, Once that defense shattered AND ONLY once it was no longer viable did she try to play the victim and change her defense to I was raped so that made me a pathological liar. No the duct tape wasn't without a reasonable doubt the murder weapon, But it still directly correlates with the 3 year olds death by suffocation, Which was confirmed by the autopsy . If you believe she is innocent you must be from Florida.
@Poopy Lmao at Florida. Sorry to say but not from FL dude. Nor do I think she's innocent. Just saying, the jury's decision is not without reason. And no, the fact that she lied is not evidence to her guilt. It does prove that she obstructed justice (to which she was proven guilty) but it did not prove that she killed her child. It's circumstancial at best. Same with the duct tape. The expert witness couldn't confirm that it was the cause of the baby's death. It does however highly suggest that it was affixed to the baby at some point. There is just not enough evidence to prove her guilt.
@ShortPatatoeSam Z No, stop playing the victim card; maybe if it was a poc male it would've been worse but not for a poc female. The people aren't dumb and look at a thorough investigation through these types of interrogations to further proceed. They wouldn't get thrown into jail immediately either. And if they get shot, they only get shot while they're at a crime scene or trying to arrest them.
The problem is that those are just indications. Yes it's very likely that she did do it. But maybe there are reasons we can't think of why she is doing these things and acting like this, while not doing it.
The last thing we want is to lock innocent people up for life. So that is what you need to ask yourself. If you lock people up who are likely not innocent but you can't know for sure, but also lock people away who are innocent. Would you really want to do that? Is it worth the freedom of someone who is innocent to pay for the crimes of others?
@JaykoFPS personally, i think she most likely did. And even if she didn't, it is obvious she did not want that child. I mean girl cant even wait to celebrate her new childless status.
Well, aliens could've killed her daughter and wiped Casey's mind, and she only just remembered 31 days later......... To be honest i'm surprised this wasn't something the defence said lmao
@John Salem i wouldn't say they had to be "stellar" to win, but at least decent. the jury's main reasons for not finding Casey guilty were 1. They did not know if suffocation or drowning was the cause of Caylees death 2. They did not know if the smell in the family car was rotting garbage or a rotting body (this was never clarified in court) 3. I don't believe the nanny was even brought up in the trial. So the jury did not even know that Casey lied about "Zenaida" and tried to send the police on her trail 4. The jury said they felt the prosecution was arrogant and cold while the defense was thorough and compassionate. Basically, the evidence was stacked to the roof against Casey. But the prosecution was too cocky and dropped the ball. Furthermore, their should have been a mistrial regardless due to the defense's unsubstantiated accusation against the meter reader who found Caylee and the accusations against Casey's father which I won't bother to repeat as they are, very obviously, false. This garnered a lot of last minute sympathy, and it was a lie, so it should not have been allowed to influence the jury's decision. Unfortunately, we had an incompetent prosecutor and a bad judge who allowed the defense to input doubt into the jury. They all thought Casey might be guilty, and they all hated her, but they could not say for sure that she was guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt"
7. She Googled how to suffocate someone. Wasn't evidence at the trial that came up afterwords- https://tinyurl.com/y3rjp2u4 this youtube video doesn't make that clear.
@ShortPatatoeSam Z Women of all races are statistically more likely to get a not guilty verdict or lower sentences. Its one of the many flaws of our justice system
It is the justice system guys. That's how it works. There isn't any direct evidence without doubt to prove she was the murderer. As an example think about the youtube algorithm, which provides you cute cat videos to horrible and esoteric videos. Imagine if someone accused you of murder because you saw a violent video. If she was convicted based on your emotions, then someday some innocent will also be punished because of your emotions. That's why the justice system works on hard evidence and nothing else. It might be unfortunate in this case, but it is the right decision.
She is reserved (so you wouldn't know if she was remorseful/concerned for her daughter if she was feeling it for this reason). There is no evidence/proof that Casey killed her daughter.
All we know is that Caylee was killed. We don't know who.
Emotion was used to pit people against Casey without evidence that she had done anything.
For people who are so sure that Casey did it, there are no finger prints, blood, or any kind of DNA to prove that Casey was involved or was deliberately killed her daughter, or the evidence would have been there to prove that.
I watched this a long ago as a teenager thinking this whole charade the media broadcasting was inappropriate from the beginning, and coming back to this again many years later, I still think Casey was innocent.
Unless there is a confession or some kind of smoking gun proof that she did it, there is no right or reason to think that she did it.
@Amber Slahlize are you serious right now? She lied about literally everything, why would she feel the need to lie if she didn’t do something? She lied about not knowing where her kid was, she lied about the kid napping she lied about who she got the info about the nanny she lied about where and who she worked with she lied about everything
@MessedUp Pika Yup. I know people who lie, even as well as her, still not compulsive liar, or sociopath, just another type of social style which many people don't understand or consider. They come across as insensitive, but that's because they are highly reserved, and highly task oriented, they often concern themselves with dominating the situation rather than worrying about relationships, they are the lest agreeable of people, and well, she fits the bill for this type of social style. She got arrested, lying is one of the many responses a person can have when they get arrested, besides it's not proof of a crime. All we know is she is a very private person, she mentioned how her name was smeared all over media, thus confirming my statement. Oh yeah, these types of people also have highly controlled facial expressions, and there are not many of them in a society because well, society doesn't recognize them, so you wouldn't understand a person like this if you met them in real life.
@Amber Slahlize bro watch this over again 🤦♂️ it obvious she lied to her lawyer because she said her daughter drowned which is clearly a lie, you tape someone mouth and nose because they died, then she said she couldn’t be happier after her kid died not when she got out of jail, how could she be so called “numb” after blatantly lying to the police about it? That’s not how that works “hunny”, why would anyone need to ask her why she looked up strangulation near the time of her daughters death that’s like that’s like asking someone why they looked up how to steal credit cards after finding out they stole a bunch of money from peoples credit cards, do you not understand emotions is what drives everyone “hunny”? We would care if someone died if we didn’t have emotions just like her.
@Shades 1.5 no there is enough hard evidence for my “emotions and half truths” not to even matter, lying through your teeth about a murder in any way like she did is clearly proof enough let alone all the other stuff she did
@MessedUp Pika As far as I know there is no evidence of Casey herself killing her child. Just the fact that she didnt care about her child and googled how to suffocate somebody doesnt prove that she actually did put duct tape over Caylees mouth.
@MessedUp Pika Why she lied is a different question. It still doesnt prove that she did it. (Just because she lied dosnt mean it couldnt have been someone else)
@Slartibartfart I completely agree... I am not sure that she is innocent. But neither am I sure she is guilty. And if the jury thinks like I did they would see that they cannot say that she is guilty without a shadow of doubt. If they cannot say she is guilty the only option is a not-guilty verdict.
@alfred lauridsen no... most of it implicates her, but if I personally look at the evidence I see that she is an absolute crap person, a terrible mother, very suspicious, and self-absorbed. But I personally cannot 100% say that she is guilty. I mean... I think she is guilty. But I don't know for sure.
@Reese Ochoa most of us aren't standing up for her. We think she could be responsible for her daughter's death, but the evidence does not prove that. It implies that she is guilty.
But since there is doubt a not-guilty verdict is in my opinion the lawful outcome.
@Yazmurat A. 1. this was in Florida, 2. do you really think that poc woman dont get treated as badly as the poc men when it comes to police??? like have you not seen the amount of people killed just for their skin color or cause they ‘looked suspicious’ 😐
@Daniel sanchezaldana correction, a pretty ‘white woman’, like dude tell that to all the other pretty poc woman that were actually innocent but still killed immediately in their own homes without notice. 😐
@ShortPatatoeSam Z No they don't. POC woman do not get treated badly as POC men. And if you're bringing race into this video I can tell you probably didn't even watch the video or you know little to nothing about the law system.
@SS Exactly. All the people including race and gender like they have no idea how the system works. Do they really think they won't put a murderer in jail just cause he/she is white? Thats ridiculous. But here, there isn't any clear evidence to link her with the murder. Although there have been clues. They need evidence not emotions.
I'd recommend to everyone in this thread the movie "12 Angry Men", which deals in the matter of the jury standards for condemning people on murder cases. Other subjective superstitions one may have comes after this.
@ShortPatatoeSam Z a pretty woman of any color has the befit of the doubt over any man. Tell that to all the men who face much harsher sentences for the same crimes as women of any color.
@Abby Mahmoud Good point, perhaps I give the prosecution 2 much credit. Let me clarify. They needed to be decent to have a chance in this case, stellar to make it a slam dunk.
@Daniel sanchezaldana i know thats why in one of my comments i said its cause shes a white woman, and know that woman in general can get off easier than men
@ShortPatatoeSam Z you don't get charged for lying unless you lie under oath. Unless maybe you really really pissed them off hahahaa but even then probably not.
@Yazmurat A. well i mean i am kinda pissed off cause she has to have had a connection at least in the disappearance of her daughter, but other than that she did lie to them under oath or like the bible oath thing in an interrogation and led them to multiple fake locations
@ShortPatatoeSam Z Lying in an interrogation doesn't count as lying under oath. Lying under oath happens in court. Also, she did serve 4 years for lying to police but apparently got released few weeks later. Honestly though, I am pissed she didn't get arrested, but once again, there is no direct evidence linking her to the death. But If I were to refer to her to someone, I would refer to her as a murderer.
@Yazmurat A. well hey at least we can agree that we both think shes the murderer, and even if she wasnt i still think that shed be connected to it some how like hiring someone to do it ya know?
@ShortPatatoeSam Z ya but it’s not about white or black it’s about money. A black man with money can do much better than a white man with no money. women overall regardless of color will do better than a man.
@ShortPatatoeSam Z The thing is we know for a fact nobody else could have done this besides her. Everybody knows she killed her daughter, even the person defending Casey which I believe is her lawyer, but yet theres no evidence, and he obviously needs to defend her where he can. Her car which smelled like a dead body and the google searches (which sadly wasnt discovered before the trial) just proves she did it. Had the court known about the google searches beforehand, she most likely would've been convicted. Maybe they should've reopened the case. But fr though, judging by the way she used to live when she had Caylee, she probably just didnt want a child. She probably though it was a mistake and didn't want to look after her and would feel ashamed if Caylee understood that reality so she killed her. As of 2021, its in the news that shes filming a movie. The name is "As I was told"
@Daniel sanchezaldana well yea but you do know the modo that the US has been going off for centuries, ‘protect the white woman our national treasure from -insert what ever war was going on-“ and till this day they use that modo yea its changed through out the years and this was in 2008 but they wouldve still thought she was innocent in a sense just cause shes a white woman with privilege, cause ‘a white woman, especially a mother could never do this to their child or to anyone at that’. 😐
@Yazmurat A. like ik the foster system is also absolute shįt but i wouldve rather have that poor child be in it or better yet be with her grandparents, rather than be dead right now, like she wouldve been that same age as me rn and its soo messed up to know that she couldve had a better life if it wasnt for her terrible mother
Wow, the logic in some of these replies are outrageous. Under the same logic, Charles Manson did nothing wrong! Here's what we know:
1.) There's not enough evidence to show his involvement. 2.) He may have said such things and done research on who to kill, but that doesn't prove he did anything. 3.) He read a book on how to start a race war, but didn't start one. 4.) He looks calm and crazy because he is trying to hide the pain of-blah blah blah
INB4, "Hurrr durrr, that's not the same as losing a child." You all need to be checked out.
@ShortPatatoeSam Z She would've been a month older than me. Its not easy to put up a 2 year old for foster or adoption and she probably would've had some shame in doing so.
@Yazmurat A. thats why i also said it wouldve also been better to be with the grandparents and plus i feel like that grandparents wouldve loved her better seeing as how they obviously cared a lot more than the mom
It's something about Casey Anthony she is not telling the truth about what happened to her daughter and she was found not guilty so if she didn't do it who did it wasn't her father it wasn't her mother cause she put her family in a lot of pain and stress it's still something wrong about that case it's just doesn't seem right at all
We all know the single only reason she got away with this is because she's a woman who played the victim. Put a man in her shoes and the show's over. Fucking pathetic what people will justify when a pretty face full of tears spews abject lies to coerce pitty.
“Why are you calling now? Why didn’t you call 31 days ago?” You can tell that dispatcher knows somethings up and is pissed. She should’ve been found guilty the moment the dude she said she “met the nanny through” said he doesn’t even know anyone by that name. Obviously she’s lying and that nanny was created as a cover up. It pisses me off so bad that she got away with this.
It also started a bit of a pattern, IMO. Skylar Richardson “hides” her pregnancy, dumps the babies body by burying it near the house, LE doesn’t catch on til over a month later and when they find the baby they can’t determine cause of death, so Skylar, the baby killer, has bought herself the time she needs to get away with murder with an assist from her enabling mother. The blonde young cheerleader spends a total of four days in jail before posting bail and is found not guilty of all the killing charges and the judge gives no prison time for the things she’s found guilty of. If you’re young, attractive and at least middle class, just hide the remains of the child you killed long enough and there’s your reasonable doubt - no matter how obvious it is, no matter what the text messages say, common sense, etc. I can’t believe we let Skylar Richardson and Casey Anthony kill their daughters with no repercussions.
Bro one of the first things she did was make up a kid, of her “friend”, that didn’t even exist, to explain how she met a nanny, that also didn’t exist, to explain how her 3 year old daughter went missing? How the hell was she found innocent?
@Thomas Revere his point was at the end of the day, being declared not guilty and being declared innocent are similar in the sense that the defendant doesnt serve time
@cookie crumb The problem is, you're supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty." Innocence is the default setting for a Defendant no matter the facts of the case. It's always been that way, and should always be that way. Being found "not guilty" just means the jury didn't think any arguments or facts were compelling enough to send a presumed-innocent person to prison.
We can speculate all day and form our own opinions, and judging by her actions in the case she probably did do what she was accused of. None of that really matters without enough hard facts to back it up, though. This isn't Twitter Court where you're always guilty even when proven innocent.
I wonder if these lawyers ever think to themselves that they are covering for crime. I mean us viewers see the same evidence and anyone with common sense will have a strong suspicion towards Casey. Sure there are no concrete ones and by law she couldn't be found guilty, but do they ever look back and feel the shivers that they might have let a monster loose? @Jokka D
@Theo tell that to OJ who was found not guilty in his criminal trial but liable for the wrongful death action and lost all his money. Beyond a ready doubt guilt (criminal trial) is much higher than more likely they did it than not guilt (civil trial)
@Hoàng Hà Lê The prosecution let a monster loose. The defense lawyers did the job they were paid to do which is put on the best defense they could. A jury of 12 people, with far more information than we have, said the state did not meet it's burden of beyond reasonable doubt. If her guilt is so obvious then this should have been easy for the state to prove.
@Thomas Revere Explain the difference between the position of being innocent before the eyes of the law (a position everyone holds until found guilty) and being found not guilty, other than the latter coming after a trial. It just seems like you are being pedantic for no gain.
@ShesThe1yup being found not guilty because of insanity doesn't let you walk free tho, they put you into like an asylum where you'll probably do more time than you would've in jail walking free because of insanity is a TV thing
@Kyryyn Lyyh an innocent verdict would mean that they're saying you didn't commit the crime and being found not guilty just means that there wasn't enough evidence to convict you but they're not saying anything about whether or not you committed the crime
@Kyryyn Lyyh If I say "x is not true", it's much different than saying "I'm not convinced x is true." That's how the courts operate. Y'all are too loose with language.
@ForeverLaxx the fact that she made up a non existent person who she swears had her kid, plus all the other lies related to it should be more than enough evidence to prove her guilt. Or at least guilty beyond a REASONABLE doubt.
@Josh All they really proved was that she was a compulsive liar. It didn't really look like they had hard evidence and it was all circumstantial. There was no murder weapon, no prints, no witnesses... all they had was a pretty flimsy "who else would have had access" line. At best, they showed she didn't want anyone to know her kid was missing and that she didn't really care she was missing, not necessarily that she's the reason her kid is gone.
I'm not saying she didn't do it. I'm pretty convinced she did. What I am saying, though, is that the prosecution didn't do their job and they let the defense attorney walk all over them and change the focus from a "ruthlessly slain girl" to "a poor abused woman being unfairly targeted by police."
Honestly it was a brilliant move. The only thing the public seems to care about more than children is protecting women. He made her look like a victim and never brought up the facts of the case since those facts would only hurt his defense.
@ForeverLaxx but what innocent person would make up a nanny that doesn't exist when trying to find her own missing child. That's beyond a reasonable doubt.
@Josh No, that's speculation. Like I said, all they really proved was that she knew the kid was missing and didn't care. They didn't have actual evidence she was involved and the defense attorney made sure to focus entirely on the made up abuse and unfair treatment story.
Hindsight is 20/20 or whatever, but with what they had at that time and how badly the prosecution laid out the case, it's not really surprising where things ended up.
@anon fool fair enough all I know is here in Australia they are closing down most Asylum and even giving lesser sentences to keep ppl out of the few that exist (only for the worst of the worst) its crazy
@Kenzis searching stuff on the internet isn't concrete proof though, i'm sure most people including you have likely searched for something that'd be illegal to do but haven't actually done it, i'm more concerned about the part where the defence says the baby drowned in a pool when the skeleton was found buried in a swamp with duct tape on its mouth
@Kenzis i wasn't being specific about what you search, but you could search for practically anything illegal and not have done it, which is why it wasn't counted as solid evidence
I wonder if the state could go after her for a child neglect case. It’s not the same charge, and I most certainly believe that there was sufficient evidence for prosecution, but nevertheless, this would at least be something, because she is absolutely guilty of neglect.
@Jokka D this is simply not true. Defense attorneys are an absolutely essential part of the justice system. All people, guilty or innocent, are due zealous and competent representation. It is the opposing sides job to paint a narrative that fit the facts of the case to be able to convince to convict.
This system does guarantee that sometimes guilty people go free, but it also minimizes the amount of innocent people being incarcerated. To say they only care about money is absurd and baseless. I obviously agree that this monstrous woman is guilty, no question. The prosecution failed to convince. They failed this little girl.
But at the end of the day, all this is just man’s justice. She will not escape God’s justice, which is much more satisfying.
i read the comments halfway through and stopped watching. it's fucking obnoxious how she got away with this and is also fucking writing a book to "SHARE HER SIDE OF THE STORY" and perhaps even making a movie about it like nah bro i'm actually FUMING WTF.
Something I don’t understand: how are people like Casey created? Is she truly not very sad about her daughter’s death? Does she feel no remorse? And if so, is this a genetic or developmental disorder that affects the emotional and moral parts of the mind? Or does someone become like this from the circumstances in their life… How, someday, do I raise my kids so that the probability of this happening is zero?
karma is going to catch up with this one, ouch, you can bet that the momma thinks she got away with it, gonna be interesting when the sh!t hits the fan.
she only served two years that was it two fucking years for a monster how messed up is the system if a murderer only serves 2 years. if you kill someone with intent its life in prison, simple
@Death Row Executions Mental health care is a serious problem. It's difficult to talk about, and all too easily swept under rugs and ignored, or simply deemed too uncomfortable. As the child of a schizophrenic who has to be constantly vigilant against the disorder in myself, I'm actually glad that the general public is becoming more familiar with mental health traits and how to recognize them.
Kaotiqua No, sociopaths fake all feelings, they have none.. it appears like faking empathy but what is really going on is they anticipate your reactions out of studying you then create a scenario where they can control how you feel.. it’s very elaborate and complex..
@Kaotiqua I agree with you. Although I don't excuse the people I tell stories about, majority of them I believe suffer from some sort of mental health issue. Thanks for sharing/replying and stay safe
@Colin D in saying that how does one explain her actions AFTER knowing her child is dead? I saw no heartache remorse or sympathy for HER child. I'm thinking I will never understand anything about Casey Anthony.
There was insufficient evidence. The state didn’t have it, otherwise they would have used it - or maybe not !!??
The Defense opening statement said something about Caylee drowning in the family pool.
But this video doesn’t unfold that. Hmmm!!!???
Are they saying she hid the body and lied because she felt overwhelming guilt?
Well why then the duck tape? Surely the state knows more. The boyfriend’s statements are not brought up in this video either, yet he is key. She confided in him. He was a high-rider nite club operator!!?
I’m concerned now knowing how people involved in child trafficking like Epstein and Maxwell have immunity.
She could have been coached on her bs names and story before police involvement. If she was promised immunity at the highest level, that would help account for her nonchalant attitude.
@Serena Baney exactly, she was agitated and annoyed with the fact that it was about her daughter, she had definitely had a big part of her coming up missing and never retuning, she was so annoyed because she just wanted to forget about her daughter and the part she played in it all, I knew she was lying immediately when the investigator's were interviewing her initially, that is not the reaction of someone who's child has been gone for nearly a month, I and most caring and loving people would've reported it immediately and how is your babysitter gonna walk away with your daughter or son and be gone for nearly a month and you don't seem to notice or take action, that speaks for itself alone right there. She didn't want the responsibility and like the investigator's said, she wanted to run wild and live another life with no responsibility for her daughter, sad thing is also, that little girl trusted and loved her mom and never asked to be brought into this world. World class piece of sh... it! Sincerely Lorenzo gig harbor Washington.
@Lago Brian You clearly are not an expert in psychology; Sociopathy as a mental disorder does not indicate a lack of emotions, at all. you either made it up or believed someone who did. do some reading on the subject, now referred to as antisocial personality disorder.
her expressions during the trial are so telling. The SECOND that "this is a story about Caylee" was said, she was PISSED and trying to mask it. She's sitting in court for the murder of a child and its still not enough attention. in a strange way, I pity how screwed up you have to be to warrant any of this. Caylee deserved her life far more than her mother.
@Colin D "normal range of narcissism" tells me they didnt do anything more than ask questions about self esteem. and unfortunately back in 2008 I dont think people widely accepted that narcissism like all personality disorders, is a scale. malignant narcissism/sociopathy is plain as day Casey.
The monsters mum and dad enable her to the maximum. The mum calls her sweetheart, the lady is not sweet! Not an ounce of sweet and they visit her even damn there are parents who hate their kids for being honest then there are parents who love their kids because they are compulsive liars. Yuck world gross people.
that proves she is a liar. listen, I'm not saying she is anything approaching a good person, I'm only saying I would have voted not guilty, too much doubt. Neglect, yep 100% but actually killing the baby, from ALL reports she was a good, loving mother, No one disputed that out of the 12 witnesses called .
@Drpepperspray1010 i watched the entire episode. Obviously the lawyer created reasonable doubt 🙄 I'm saying for me all of her lies and cover up is suspicious enough for me to think she harmed her child or had something to do with disposing her body. As a mother there is absolutely no way my toddler could be missing after I dropped her off at a nannys house. I would have called the police asap. Her response to her own child's supposed kidnapping/ abduction by the nanny is enough for any person to question the reliability of her character. Our justice system is majorly flawed when a lawyer can come in and make up stories with no evidence to back it up and get a murderer off. Happens too often, unfortunately. This case definitely needs to be reopened and retried with a jury who has enough common sense to see through the excuses and blame shifting.
@Sunny what about the Google searches about fullproof suffocation? What about the parents statement that the car smelled like a dead body? What about the lies she told the police? Did everyone suddenly forget about that just because the lawyer claimed she was molested? Did they forget because the lawyer said she drowned instead?...even though no autopsy proved that? The jury reacted with their emotions and felt bad for her because of some lies her lawyer made up. No justice has been served for that child.
@Thai Zeo and it wasn't her, it was the grandma reported it firsthand. The motive here man.... But this is her own daughter which are at loss here, and her own mother didn't even value her life
@Valerie Cuevas that’s exactly what happened. The police and prosecutors had poor execution and the lawyer capitalized on that. Not only did the girl get no justice, but the father took a huge fall and will be labeled as a child molester probably until the day he dies.
Sorry but the dad molestation thing was a bunch of bullshit. You could tell even in this video that she had no ill feeling toward her father until the end when using him as a scape goat. Nor was he even shaken about it when they said it. This was obviously planned. Even with his consent to do so. The man loved his daughter and even though he knew she killed his granddaughter still wanted to protect her. What this comes down to is just how fucked up our laws are. The prosecutors couldn’t 100% prove it. The defense pointed out they should not convict if that’s the case. Then next thing you know she’s innocent. Simple as that.
@pronoe I don't get it at all, she either buried her daughter because she's mentally ill (because of molesting and endless lies) and therefore she should be put in a sanitarium, or either she's not ill and buried her daughter understanding what she was doing. Two criminal psychiatrists didn't prove she was ill (as stated in the begging of this video), therefore all this bullshit about molesting and how pitiful she is is a complete nonsense. Did jury just sleep the hearings through? That's logic, if one is false, other is true. You can't bury your child in a swamp if you're mentally healthy and then go free. It's ridiculous.
If she drowned in the pool, why the fuck there was a duct tape on her nose and mouth??? Defense didn't deny that the mother buried her child in a swamp, if so so why then she put a duct tape onto already drowned and dead child? To do what? To stop water flowing back out of her lungs? Ridiculous. Those juries should be fired.
Bro it would be straight up AGAINST THE LAW to use 'proof' and not PROVEN KNOWN FACTUAL EVIDENCES. So if she did kill her then I must say she is definitely a genius and has the law wrapped around her finger ngl
@Sunny same here. I still still know what happened. The prosecution's theories don't sit well with me. When I first heard the verdict, I couldn't believe it. As years went by and as I watched more stuff on the trial, I agree with the jury. And as much as Baez annoys me, he is brilliant and he went on to prove that over and over by winning many more cases.
@PAUL SORYU [Music] no problem at all. There has to be proof to put someone in prison for life. If there's not proof, then sucks and I understand all sides but we can't go on suspicions.
Seriously the most ridiculous part of the whole thing was her making up the nanny, and when asked her name she chose a name that rhymed, zanny the nanny... its like a child's lie lol
That is beyond fucked up. That woman did it. Why else would she have lied on and on again and delayed the investigation? Why would she have been so indifferent about the death of HER CHILD?
@calebmon brurh women have no privilege😆nah I'm kidding but just because she got away with it doesn't mean her life is perfect you know,but she kinda bad tho
@calebmon You need to check out how many men are not getting convicted for rape, harassment and murders (especially of their female partner - often despite similar proofs as in the case of Casey) instead of claiming 'female privilege' lmao.
Women are also getting more years for killing their male partners than men get for killing their female partners. Women are more likely to be sentenced to jail for robbery and assault than men are. Why did you not say this?
Your claim has been disproven several times and I hope people actually look it up to know it's fake and a belief system misogynists use to further create hatred against women and to hold women to standards that not even men are held up to. Your comment is so full of hostile sexism lmao.
@CommonlyKnownAsAngi Look up the details of the crimes and why women are incarcerated way less: because often women have not acted with viciousness, torture and violence - which men are more likely to engage in- which results in more severe convictions.
Also given how society works, these women usually have a background of having been abused either as a kid or in relevance to their crime. This theory has already been explained a few times already. Cases are treated differently and according to specific details. Do not do a mere comparison on numbers of incarceration of men vs women. For anyone to be able to do this mere comparison, the cases involved would have to be exactly the same.
You also need to check out how many men are not getting convincted for rape, harassment and murders (especially of their female partner - often despite similar proofs as in the case of Casey).
Also check out how women are more likely to be sentenced to jail for robbery and assault than men are. Why did you not say this?
@RewiredHuman most studies try to account for every variable including the past trauma, severity of the crime ect. (This is kinda the thing you do when you make a study DUH) and 99% of all of them find that women get less punishment for the same crimes across all types of crimes. This isn't disputed even in feminist circles. It is a basic fact that pretty much all data, even the data you provided suggests.
We built suspicion on it, but not caring for the death of her child is debatably a sin. Besides she may even be pretending not to care, which non of us may find out.
@Avercy she got special treatment for the simple fact she was an attractive white woman and that doesn't fit narrative for her to be a baby killer unless its abortion
@UCLaVd-16BrjY4g-K5QpBWEg You are not unintelligent. You understand that any woman, of color or otherwise, feeling less of value by any standard, other then their own cognitive efforts, is foolish.
It's about who you are. Those who want to be a queen, fucking build your empire then, don't wait for handouts. You want to be "THE" Queen, you better strive harder then ANY other person on the planet.
Also. There are serial killer, and rapists in all colors, quit fucking playing, I'm not uneducated. Met a lot of people, poured through quite a few trials, and personal interviews with stone-cold killers.
I do this as a passion, reading people. I was also a foster child from the age of 3. Life is hard for everyone. You want hardship stories?
You ever fucking cleaned your loved one's blood off everything, hold their hand, tell them how much you need them, while they're dying?
Not even scratching the surface here. You and every other person spouting race.
EVERYONE I choose to surround my life with has love for ALL others who loving themselves, feel me?
WE make our own fucking ways. Stop playing like there isn't way to better your mind. People acting like you got problems the world didn't already have, before we were around. Saving, and solving NOTHING.
We the little people. Each of us only one individual, but together a whole. So let's be little, but strong.
Gather all the amazing people you can find, surround yourself. Take time to learn the liars first, if you're inexperienced. Point is. 100 good people in one spot is much less gullible to any bad people. So take care of your life, and shit will change.
My mom watched this case when I was the same age as caylee. It killed my mom thinking a child just the same as I was at the time, was killed and then just left like nothing. I was actually born the same month as caylee too. It’s interesting
yoooo so this is such a toxic response, and i’m sure it’ll be viewed with some harshness. but if i ever see casey anthony, even as a man, i just don’t know that i won’t be able to punch her after watching this. is that just me?
Not how it works, once she's been found not guilty she can't be tried again for the same charges. Unless they discover something which could add new charges, which they won't, then this case is just settled bc of double jeopardy laws
@Bryan Hann Really? With that kind of background? I wouldn’t use her as an attorney, she’s a liar and clearly participated in the disappearance and murder of her child.
Nah. Justice is done. That's ur justice system at work people. Enjoy. Happens everyday
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@flowpuppie84 Wow. The vast majority of the time justice is done. In this case, it wasnt. But I'm sure you're trying to make this into a racial thing.....
If you go to court have a jury trial and your found not guilty you cannot be tried a second time regardless of anything that has brought to light she's free she's trash but she had a good lawyer
Nathan Sledgister Her defense attorney is the one that got her off, that makes him the good one. She is just a pathological liar and not even that great...every meeting with the cops she was so nonchalant and upbeat it screamed ” I don’t give a shit what happened to my kid” not the kind of lawyer I would want for my defense.
Unfortunately, in the United States, there’s an amendment in the bill of rights saying no double jeopardy, which means you can’t be retried for the same crime if you’ve already been ruled as guilty/not guilty. This isn’t the case in other countries, such as Italy. One example of double jeopardy in Italy was one case of a girl who was charged with murder. She had a trial, was ruled not guilty, then was brought back multiple times to be retried. She lived in the US, but was brought back several times to Italy to be retried.
Her parents really threw her a graduation party knowing she did not in fact graduate. There’s the problem, Casey was even taught by her parents how to lie, she was living in lies even when she was young
Don’t get me wrong, terrible parents but lying has nothing to do with her killing her own child. That’s a sick and twisted thing to do that was on her. Her parents are the ones that taught her that if she kept lying she’d get away with it which indeed happened. Horrible situation I don’t believe her killing the child was on the parents but her getting away with it 100% was
@Haydn leckie that wasn’t my point. My point was that she was taught how to lie ever since she was a young adult meaning it was a lot easier for her to lie about the killing of her own child. She thinks it’s okay to spread bullshit lies on media and is even writing a BOOK. That is sick.
Exactly. My parents might lie about a particular thing for me to others, to help me save face…. But they’d never go to the utterly ridiculous extreme of further entertaining and actualising the lie. Even just observing the manner in conversation with her parents on the prison visiting phones just before her trial… it is pathetic how superior she clearly is in that family dynamic, above all of them. And she makes it obvious just how much she looks down on them all. They certainly were loving but terrible parents. They allowed their daughter to increasingly skirt responsibility and get away with so much….. it led to this ultimate point….. and her acquittal would only serve to add to her already immense deceiving-ability ego.
@Haydn leckie That's where the issue is. If her parents loved her, she wouldn't be featured on a video here. Parents who are dysfunctional can only give dysfunction to their children which only increases the likelihood that scenarios like this happen.
@Grey Crane not exactly. It could increase the likelihood but don’t you dare tell me that her parents saving face about her lies is equivalent to what she did. This is on her not the parents
@Haydn leckie Never said it was equivalent. I'm saying their actions, like lying to the extent of creating pseudo-graduation party, is a tell tale sign that they didn't love her. That is dysfunctional. It is on the parents for not loving her and therefore creating a dysfunctional child that in this case, chose to take her own child's life because she didn't want the responsibility of being a parent herself.
@Grey Crane that’s a reach. They obviously loved her but in their own way but cared more about themselves, you can tell that. This isn’t a case about a dysfunctional person, it’s a lot more than just dysfunctional. No matter your up bringing you choose who you want to be and how you look at things. A lot of people including myself have grown up in abusive households where our parents don’t love us and we are not killers. It’s the person that chooses, not the parents.
@Haydn leckie There's only one way of loving and that doesn't involve lying to appear better than you are, that's narcissistic. This is about dysfunction. I've also grown up in an abusive household but I know that one doesn't just become normal because you say you are. People from abusive households attain personality disorders if they never had a positive and functional person in their life to receive love and bond with. Just because you are dysfunctional doesn't mean it's certain that you will be a killer.
@Grey Crane Yes you could argue that we aren’t “normal” but you were claiming that she killed her child because her parents made her dysfunctional and now you say that that’s not necessarily the case. Since that was the basis of your argument then we are both must be killers aswell. I’ll stick to the facts, her parents may be terrible people but this was all her fault and the path she chose.
@Haydn leckie Where did I say her parents not loving her wasn't linked with her ability to consider and carry out murder? Yeah, she did make the decision to kill but saying that her parents had nothing to do with that factor is incorrect.
@Grey Crane you said if her parents loved her she wouldn’t the featured on this video but I wasn’t loved and I’m not featuring so you can’t just blame her parents. It isn’t in correct, it could factor into it yet it might not. You or I don’t actually know. Maybe she’s wanted to do something like this from the day she was born? You wouldn’t know that.
@Grey Crane you stated at the start saying she’s featured because of her parents. You also stated that her parents taught her to be dysfunctional, so you tell me you were saying something different? See that’s the thing you THINK you know it all. What you think is just what you think, you do not know her or what goes on in her head. You’re speculating.
@Haydn leckie I'm literally not saying anything different, that's basically what I am saying. Her parents dysfunction was a relevant factor in the child's murder. Why are you trying to downplay my opinion just because its mine? I am confident in saying that I know what would likely be going on with her psychologically so yes, of course I am speculating, just like how every investigator speculates what happens when a suspect is evidently lying. I also would appreciate this dialogue to continue more precisely, I never claimed or implied to: "know it all", whatever that means.
@Grey Crane and I’m confident that it had nothing to do with her parents or her up bringing. We have a differing opinion and I don’t mind about that. What I do mind is you saying I’m incorrect.
@Grey Crane yes obviously but you can choose to keep it to yourself because if we both believe different things what’s your point in trying to argue about it. If you wanted a discussion you’d be open to differing opinions, not only caring about why you’re “right”
@Haydn leckie My point is to tell you why your opinion is incorrect because I do not believe it to be the truth. That's called a debate which you decided to partake in. I heard your opinion and disagree with it and have told you why. That doesn't mean I'm not open-minded. I care about the truth and right now am convinced that it is me who is telling it.
@Haydn leckie You decided to comment your opinion about the matter in a comment section. If you didn't want to hear an opposing opinion and discuss the reasoning for your own said opinion, then I fail to see why you bothered to share it at all. You haven't once claimed why you believe in your view or given any reason for me to believe in it. That, to me shows that you didn't want to hear what another view was since your making quite nonsensical replies. You're also free to stop contributing in this discussion, rather than telling me that I should stop. You have to realise, you've mentioned that you've come from an abusive household, which is tragic. But that doesn't suddenly mean that you aren't dysfunctional yourself because of your awareness. You have shown that you would rather keep your opinion, without any sort of dispute as to why, rather than convince me why it is the truth in our discussion. Your aversion to continuing this discussion and wanting to conclude it with us having differing opinions, shows that you aren't interested in the truth and are more likely trying to avoid admitting that your are wrong or trying to support an opinion of which you actually do not believe in, and merely hold as a way to garner positive affirmation from others or putting others down, whom may possess less socially 'correct' opinions, to keep your false self delusion from dissolving.
They actually didn’t know, she wasn’t open with her parents and would never tell them anything, her parents called the school asking when/where the graduation is gonna be and her school told them she wasn’t actually graduating and they thought she was.
@Haydn leckie I do believe her lack of empathy and caring for her child came from her parents who clearly excused everything and made it OK for her to care basically ONLY for herself. She was never held accountable or taught that other things and people were as important or even more important than she was. And I believe she never learned to tolerate frustration and denial of what she wanted, possibly leading to taking out anger on her child or feeling justified in neglecting and/or endangering her. So, yeah, they contributed, in my opinion.
Yes actually phycopaths tend to do what they are taught by either a television or their parents or something like that they usually study people and what behaviors are best so they relied upon lying or manipulative behavior or mind games
her brother testified to lie after lie from both his parents, but mainly his mother. She was brought up and taught to lie. it was horrible hot the day the little one died. Casey is preoccupied with getting in and out of the house before her mom gets home. She forgets and leaves the sleeping girl in the car... remembers her too late. gets her out and tries to cool her off in the pool, which as a nurse, would have put the child into shock and kill her. she buried her child like she saw her Dad bury the loved family pets. It was an accident and she didn't want to go through the hassle of dealing with it.
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@Sunny I don’t know if I believe that. If it were truly a horrific careless accident caused by an irresponsible, self centered parent, why did her online search results include “how to make chloroform”, “foolproof suffocation” and “neck breaking”?
@Grey Crane are you not a parent? I know for a fact her parents still love her even now, despite both of them believing she’s somehow involved in the death of their granddaughter. All my original point was that despite it being clear how much her parents loved her (which further condemns what she did, as she doesn’t have the excuse of having had a traumatic childhood), they clearly raised her poorly.
@Elke S I'm not a parent. Her parents didn't love her. People who decide to kill their child of their own volition are not people who come from loving families. I'd love to know your answer as to why Casey did what she did if you think her parents loved her even though she still thought murdering a child was the best way to handle this scenario.
@Grey Crane because people arent automatically perfect parents. Some just don’t learn how and remain useless at healthily and positively raising a child.
Yes she and her parents might be narcissists . Similar in the way Lori Laughlin went through all the trouble to get her child into USC. Lori et al… didn’t care about their children more so how they might be perceived if their child didn’t go to College or graduate from high school.
I don't like how the narrator is not a real live narrator. It's amazing how real it sounds but I can tell that it is a acutally a recording reading out text. Notice how everything is sort of monotone and the pauses in between sentances are all short and the same length?
I was proud of the dispatcher for at least asking “why are you calling NOW?! Why didn’t you call 31 days ago?!” I feel like a lot of people might have let that slide
I think she just wanted to party for a month, with no responsibility or hassle, and then when all that had worn off, reality sunk in, she had to report her daughter missing! Then the Webb of lies started, something she has been doing her whole life! With the help of the parents, of course!
You don’t have to be a fucking genius or detective to know she’s a murderer. This will haunt her and on a day later in live she will admit to what she has done , you can fool the whole world and yourself but you cannot fool God, it is He who will whisper in her ear while she’s sleeping, come on girl it’s time to tell the truth and walk this way all the way to the light.
can you imagine being casey's father - still grappling not only with the death of your granddaughter but also with the knowledge that your own child would kill her daughter - and then being blatantly accused of pedophilia and incest in front of an entire courtroom
@Maury Jack Reno HOW ARE YOU SO CALM ABOUT THE WAY THEY PHRASED IT? so civil of you to try and introspect especially when one is acting that unreasonable! i felt like flipping out on them but seeing your comment so nicely worded and polite gave me the signal to act with reason. god bless you, my G
@sup Thank you for the kind words, honestly I’m a little bit in shock over this . . . . case, if you could call this circus something so kind. I may be too numb for anger right now to be honest, which is a new sensation. And I really am genuinely curious. Could there be something they’ve seen that I haven’t? Something they picked up on? Why are they adamant about it? I’d like to know exactly what their thought is on the accusation before I make any kind of judgement, because it could be that they have a perfectly reasonable opinion, just poor phrasing skills. Is this woman actually that convincing to people even in a video that exposes the negative side? I’m not sure. Hopefully they’ll let me know how to feel about their comment soon
@Maury Jack Reno I didn't make the comment to you, and don't understand why did you get so angry about it? I mean, I just thought the father wasn't completely innocent to deserve to be emphasized. I thought he was okay with being a part of the lawyers plan because we see he and her mother were okay with their daughters past lies and tried to hide them. Then I read about his suicide trial and knew he tried to defence himself and guessed they were probably always manipulated from their daughter. Still think they are part of the reason of this narcissistic woman though. But now I know and that's about it.
@Tt Ee Hey man in not angry, I was just curious. Glad you told me your side, because I don't think you're wrong I was just confused with the phrasing. And it didn't seem like anyone was going to ask for your side/what your opinion was. I certainly believe her parents are a solid percent of the reason she is the way she is, that they let themselves be manipulatived from the start and they shouldn't have been surprised when she stooped so low. Definitely not an accusation that they should have made against her father, but she is definitely not what they should have raised. I'm not angry at all, I was just legitimately curious to see if you'd noticed something the rest of us hadn't.
He was no saint. Only a narcissist would lie about their kid doing well in college when they flunked out. And where do you think she got her sociopathy? It's genetic.
@KayKay Lit This person led detectives around Universal Studios for 25 minutes, and had to reach the dead end of a hallway before finally admitting "heheh, I don't work here." No, none of the things she said is real.
@Mr Nobody I mean, he adamantly denied the accusations... Are you really going believe her over him? Were you on this jury because it seems you were fooled by her nonsense too?
@Mr Nobody So, how the law (should) work, is that when you make a claim like that, the burden of proof lays upon the accuser. There was absolutely no evidence of that horrible claim, and the father was never convicted or held or anything. I think you are ASSUMING what she is saying could be true, despite burden of proof and her history of lying about literally everything
@Puffy147x Oh okay, we didn't see him vehemently deny it in the video (I even found it weird they didn't talk about this). And no haha, I'm not even an American citizen. I live in Europe, I wasn't even aware of this case until now, but seeing this video made me lose faith in American justice system haha. Her story was indeed complete nonsense. This was the only part that I feel could have been genuine... but wouldn't be an excuse for how she acted anyway, so I wouldn't have changed the punishment.
@Ham Sandwich Yes, exactly. I'm basically showing assuming either way is stupid. As for her killing the baby, I think there is no assumption on this point... but I fail to see how a jury can have decided that she is innocent!?
@Mr Nobody I absolutely agree. We allow far too many loopholes to protect those who are clearly guilty, and make it more difficult to prove your innocence in some cases. Not like I have a better solution though
@Janet Spell it's really unethical but that's easily countered by the argument that it's their job to serve as strong lawyers for their clients, no matter how inhumane. Comes to show just how much justice and equality are two entirely different things.
I'm pretty sure he did and is a pervert. Picked that up right away when you saw then interact. You can tell the girl is lying and calculated but so are the grandparents being over the top over acting. The "hey gorgeous" from the dad.... it all makes sense.
@Michael Ptasnik I thing they were embarrassed. Imagine your daughter telling the whole word that she is doing good in school and how her day was and all that, just to find out she made the whole thing up? I couldn't imagine having to explain that to people. How do you tell people your daughter is a liar and to the extent that she fooled all of them..
@Cossu HD Just shows how terrible of a person casey is that she went so far to save herself. Even after casey's father knowing that most probably casey was the one who killed her daughter he loved her till the last minute and what he got was an accusation of pedophilia and incest. Wtf did I just watched, I am so pissed
@Tt Ee her father wasn't a part of her defense, he not only testified against her with respect to the smell in the car but categorically denied all of the claims of abuse outright. Her parents received special permission to be in the courtroom which is why focus was on them. As witnesses they technically shouldn't have been allowed in to the court but as the defendant was their daughter they were granted permission on the basis that they couldn't show any kind of emotion whatsoever, both in support of Casey or against her. They were told that if they did they'd be removed and/or held in contempt of court so they had no choice. Ironically, the were absolutely crucified in the press for exactly that, people calling them cold and sociopathic etc.
Personally, I think her dad knew from day 1 she'd killed Caylee. As soon as he recognised the smell of putrefaction he knew it was her. I think that once you understand that your daughter is capable of murdering her own child and covering it up for a month before lying constantly to everyone, making up a nanny (some people think this was the biggest clue, "Zani" the nanny, a euphemism for Casey doping Caylee up with Xanax (used to be known as Xani's) to knock her out while she went out on the piss with her "aspiring DJ" boyfriend), and a coworker who introduced said nanny (who is in fact childless) - once you understand they are capable of all that and more then her spewing some incestuous abuse BS to try (and in this case succeed as it happens) to get away with murdering your 3 year old kid, is probably not even surprising at that point. Poor bloke.
@Mr Nobody she isn't a psychopath, she is what used to be called a sociopath (now known as Antisocial Personality Disorder) and that is the "reason" for her behaviour. The only emotion she feels is for herself, her wants and needs and what she believes should be happening to/for her. This is different from psychopathy where they aren't capable of any emotion at all, even for themselves.
@Littlewings85 Isn't sociopathy another name for psychopathy ? That's what I've always read... that those two words designate the same thing. First time I read about psychopathy being no emotion at all - never read that before.
The bare betrayal he had to have felt would have been heart breaking. Or that he couldn’t show emotions in court and then be continually accused by the media is so sad.
@Mr Nobody people often use them interchangeably but they are actually different, although they have some similarities and parts are the same for both. It is generally thought that a psychopath does not feel emotion as "normal" people do, particularly when it comes to things like empathy and impulse control. Sociopathic tendencies tend to be not so much a lack of empathy but the inability to care or relate to other people and their emotions and needs. Their sole focus is their own needs and wants and they will lie, cheat, steal, bribe, threaten, harm, bluff and do whatever it takes, to absolutely anyone if it will get them what they want.
Apologies this reply took ages, I started the Chris Watts video not realising it is a 3 parter and totally forgot I was halfway through a response lol! My bad, I'm sorry!
@Littlewings85 Oh okay, today I learned something new, then :)
So now I know what my ex-best-friend (who happened to rape at least one girl and behave horribly with multiple others) was. He wasn't a psychopath cause it didn't fit the descriptions... but probably a sociopath, then.
No need to apologize, your answer was actually quite fast for Youtube.
@Cyrus Lever so a dad thinking his daughter is beautiful means he has been abusing her for decades?
The reason he was weird with her at the prison is because he is a retired cop - he knew what that smell was the second he opened the car door and knew exactly what it meant. Then they find her and she's chilling out with her boyfriend watching a movie and getting high while her daughter is supposedly kidnapped, she hasn't called the police or even told anyone Caylee is missing and has been making excuses as to why Caylee can't come to the phone or see the grandparents for A MONTH?!? He knows without a shadow of a doubt that she killed that little girl. His first question on their first prison visit was something along the lines of "is there something you want to tell us?" It wouldn't surprise me if he spoke to her at some point and said "I know you killed her, you need to come clean and stop all this crap about the non-existent nanny and let us bury our grandkid or I will have to tell the cops for you." A police officer makes a very good witness to have, and to cap it all the cop is her own father! That is seriously damning testimony...unless there's a way to discredit his character or throw doubt on his claims in front of a jury........like, say a courtroom revelation of sexual abuse of the poor defendent as a child. Especially if it can be done with a bomb drop that is disgusting and shocking like a comment about how poor little Casey learned to lie and hide her pain at 8 years old while she had "her father's penis in her mouth". Please! I rolled my eyes so hard they nearly fell out of my skull. She and her lawyer (who she was having sex with btw - at least after the trial when she couldn't afford to pay him in cash - but possibly earlier than that) knew that her not reporting Caylee missing for 31 days, while dodging requests, hiding from and flat out lying to anyone who asked about her daughter, then when she had no choice but to contact police just lying over and over about absolutely every little detail, yeah, they know all of that looks super suspicious (because quite frankly, it was!) so they need a pity card. One that also throws question on her father's testimony for the prosecution would be best so they cook up this BS story about him sexually abusing her from a young age and Caylee dying in the pool when she left her vulnerable 3yr old daughter with the person that only she knows was sexually abusing her as a child... Come on! Who leaves their baby with their rapist??!!? The last thing a victim/survivor (whichever their preferred term) wants is for their abuser to do what they did to someone else because they then add more guilt on themselves because they think they should have come forward and stopped it happening again - the idea that it could happen to your own baby girl? That she would suffer the abuse that you did when it is literally your job to protect her from as much harm, pain and suffering as you possibly can until your last breath and you just hand her over to him? No. Not a chance. Nope. That story is clearly BS made to make her look like a victim of her childhood and to throw doubt on her father's character before he testifies that he smelled putrefaction in the car he lent Casey when he got a call because she abandoned it, and that the reason he knew what the smell was with absolute certainty was because of his first hand experience, of what is said to be an unmistakable odour once you have smelled it once, as a police officer for years.
@Mr Nobody tbh you can actually be a rapist without being a psychopath or sociopath, and there are different types of rapists.
I'm no expert, I just find criminal psychology fascinating and have probably watched too many true crime documentaries, criminal psychology lectures online, researched into websites/studies and read too many books on different types of criminal personalities than is possibly healthy for a person 🤣
I guess I just want to understand the impossible to understand. I don't understand how these killers and other offenders can do some of the things that they do, how they justify it (if they do justify it), how they went from giggling babies in their pushchair when someone makes a funny face at them to "I wonder what that dude's right buttock would taste like if I roast it?"
That may say more about me than it does the killers I love reading about 🤣
From what I remember from the documentary on this from either Netflix or Hulu, I’m pretty sure the parents got divorced after this case too because the Mom believed Casey or some shat.
@No Name Bailey Sarian did an episode on this case and she said that the mum was very "ride or die" for Casey. Tbh I think she knew that she killed Caylee but there are some people who believe that no matter what you support and stand by your family, above and beyond all else. I think her mother was someone like that. Or possibly she convinced herself that if she doesn't admit to her suspicions then they're not true, which I guess came a lot easier after she was found not guilty. Her dad was a cop so he was definitely more level-headed and realistic about stuff, even stuff as nightmarish as their daughter getting away with murdering her child.
@Hello Neighbour I actually did believe it but also it doesn’t matter what the father supposedly did , she is the one who needed to take all the blame because of what she did to her daughter she needed to be sentenced dead
@KayKay Lit Of course not. She lied about pretty well everything. So there is no doubt in my mind that this is just another one. It's very easy to lie about historic abuse. Especially when you have no scruples at all.
Oh judge milk dud in the back looking like a piece of melted chocolate 1:02:30... I feel like anybody that's overweight it doesn't take care of their health should not be in a position of power I don't want no fatty sending me the prison. Or telling me how I should live my life when he can't lay off the freaking donuts geeze lol
Not guilty? How do you prove that she's not guilty? If she wasn't guilty then why all the lies? Why was she talking to the officers as thought nothing had happened? You'd do that only if you're hiding something. I feel they're hiding the truth by mentioning all the bad experiences Casey went through in her childhood. That really does not solve the case.
The fact that she called her family and best friend a “waste” to talk to as her best friend is showing more sympathy and love towards the daughter than Casey ever could..it disgusts me. “If anything happens to that baby I’ll die Casey do you understand me?” “You guys are a waste” like fuck you. She at least cares. If you’re gonna play the “I’m not guilty” bullshit at least pretend to care. I wanna fight this woman, the anger I have while listening to these calls is worrying lol
I hated that too. She comes off as so smug, and like she was frustrated because some people actually chose to care about the wellbeing of her daughter. To me, it seems obvious she was only so upset with them because she figured she was already done with the murder and everything, until her mom called 911 and people got involved.
i was looking for this comment. the way her best friend is sobbing about losing not even her own daughter and casey is clearly disgusted by it. insane.
Listening to her friend say I’ll die if anything happens to her was the hardest part for me to listen to. She clearly had good people around her, her parents seem genuine and nice tho clearly enabling , her friend also. The fact that she is annoyed at their concern for her daughters well being it just makes me sick. Rip
@Kayvon Crenshaw Im pretty sure god would forgive you for just looking at another woman lol..I’d like to think so anyways. especially if you didn’t act on any thoughts. Intrusive thoughts happen. Doesn’t mean we should go to hell or be punished for them. And this has nothing to do with religion, bringing religion into a tragedy like this can be really hurtful for the people involved so be respectful and pls don’t spam this kind of stuff and push religions onto others online, thanks.
@You done goofed ok not cool my dude, Just report and be on your way if it bothers you, Or have a discussion but no need to be rude like that!! I agree that kind of shit shouldn’t be under videos like this and it annoys me a lot that they exist at all but gotta admit that was a little uncalled for haha
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@Lillian Rose Calling someone who acts like a lunatic a "lunatic" is rude?
@You done goofed trying to spam comments to spread the word of your religion doesn’t make you a lunatic. Tone deaf and desperate? Maybe lol. But you don’t know that person by a comment, and you can’t go around telling people “take your meds”. Shits offensive and just plain rude. Those comments are part of the internet just ignore it or report it.
Even Christina (her friend) was reacting to Caylee’s absence WAY more like a mother should, than Casey is. It’s SO OBVIOUS. Casey murdered that baby and got away with it 😭
And to this day still does not care about her child, just relieved she is gone just like Chris Watts when he killed his family. He just felt relieved. She probably still smiles at the thought of getting away with it when she thinks of it. I think the only feeling she had for Caylee was Jealousy!!!
It’s absurd, if she didn’t want the baby she could’ve of just given it too her parents. casey’s mum also said caseys car smelt like a dead body was in the trunk in the 911 call. The fact that she’s still out there is so inconvenient
Because she is a “pretty” white girl, how could she be a killer (even though all the evidence points to it). While people of colour and some white men get falsely convicted or vilified due in the media on little evidence or lies.
@Abel baby drug dealers are people who take advantage of addicts. (when i say dug dealers im talking about hard drugs like speed meth and cocaine)(not weed)
@finjibuns You are coping. After she ended her child she wrote "Im the happiest ever" and now she even legally got away with it. She pobably left the state and is enjoying the help of women's support programs.
@Fluffy Bunny Casey was not wealthy, she couldn’t afforded to pay for lawyer. So they worked out a an “ arrangement”.
If your looking for another argument, I’ve got three for you ( if they meet your approval):
1. Playing the victim card. Claiming that she an abuse victim. Saying her father had been sexual, physical and verbally abusing until adulthood. (Which was a lie)
2. Claiming her father had drugged and murdered his granddaughter. (Another lie)
3. Also playing on the belief that mothers can't possibly harm or murder their children. With this race does playa factor as white mothers are looked on favourably than mothers who are Latina, Asian or Black.
White mothers are stereotyped as being more loving, gentle, actual care about their children and less willing to physically harm their children as punishment, compared to mothers of colour.
It's more ok for white women to be single mothers.
4.constantly changing her story when on the stand.
@Daniel Fahim Islam exactly. She’s a professional liar although she gets caught that’s not important. The Jury isn’t a behavior analyst they didn’t have this level of analysis. They went off it’s a mom with a dead kid who’s been through a lot
It's not how the justice system works. She had a good lawyer, and there were some holes in the story. Therefore, you can't overrule the Law. It was justified.
i mean the idea behind the whole justice system is that its better to let 100 guilty people go free, if it means one innocent person dosent get condemned. which, this case especially makes me question that kind of thinking. but on the other hand, i totally get the prior statement.
Ive never been more disappointed by the justice system. She even stated to her parents that she KNEW caylee was still close.. The only thing "admirable" about this case was Cassey's defense team and their ability to manipulate a jury and enable a cold hearted liar the chance to live without consequence; and i sure as hell wouldnt want to be remembered for this. I hope they lose sleep over this. If theres an afterlife, i hope they know that poor child witnessed the protection of the horrid bitch that took her life away.
Beside the verdict which is obviously simply ridicoulus, I always wondered how much of your humanity you're willing to sacrifice to be able to manipulate the jury as a lawyer that way. The attorney disgusted me and the people I've shown this video to, it's just beyond my comprehension how can somoeone decide to defend a "mother" like that for money. Can't believe they let an innocent child murdered like that and let her get away with it. What a joke.
@Chris Cisneros I do like BCS, although I like to see it also as an hyperbolic exaggeration, but cases like these remind me how money makes the ethics. There are also occasions in which the attorney declines to follow a specific case as he doesn't want his morality to be compromised. Sadly this is not the case.
There was such an easy way out for her. I strongly believe if she told her parents she doesn't want the responsibility they would have raised their grandchild and loved it!
You think they were fit to raise the kid any more than she was? Caylee being raised by those people probably would have grown up just to become another casey anthony and kill her daughter.
It's a horrible thought but it's the truth. I can only wish that caylee had been born into a different family.
@Ruheschrei They raised casey and she killed her child. They messed up by letting her get away with so much. So they aren't completely off the hook in my opinion.
Put yourself into the mindset of a sociopath and compulsive liar. The one thing you absolutely cannot do is admit weakness. That would be leaving a vulnerability that people could exploit to gain an advantage over you. Admitting she can't raise her child is an admission of weakness.
No, Casey strikes me as the type of person who can't turn to anybody. Even if help is offered willingly, the only thing she can do is lie to avoid seeming like she needs to help.
#Basics Well said my friend. Currently I know three couples that are trying to adopt, and it hasn't been easy at all for whatever reason. I don't know specifics. But all of them would have taken lil' Caylee with open hearts.
@Rex IOUS OK, I can understand why you think like this. In my experience all children are different, even if twins. I don't know what would have happened, but I still stay with my thought that the grandparents raising her would have been better than being killed. Just so sad if such young children have to suffer 😞
@Gabriel Fagundes LMAOO BIGOTRY, just say you’re homophobic and leave plz 😭✋ “superphobe” im DEAD says the one who doesnt think of trans women as women. Yknow according to your logic youd like a trans man because he was born with female genitals 🥺
@Gabriel Fagundes Literally only conservative 12 year olds on tik tok and weird transphobic 40 year olds with the mindsets of 5 year olds say theyre superstraight so 😬
Seems like nowadays we need a word for every absurdity out there?.. well happy for u super straight people that u can identify urself again....and here i was thinking u guys just needed some sort of compensation..silly me
I mean yeah, But also I think it was spite. Casey started cutting out the grandparents when Cindy told Casey she wanted custody of Caylee after Casey Robbed her, her grandmother and her friend amber. Casey was jealous that they were taking care of her daughter and tried to do it herself and when she couldn't....well here we are. It probably didn't help that her current boyfriend tony seemed like he wasn't into being a father figure to Caylee either.
I thought that at first too. But I think if she truly didn’t want the child, seeing her in general would set her off. So she probably wanted to get rid of her indefinitely.
Dude a stranger could come to my door and say "I will smother my child I need you to take her in" and Id fking do it. There's someone like that in every neighborhood ZERO excuse.
She was conditioned from a young age to believe that she doesn’t have to take responsibility and confront her problems. She can just do the worst possible thing out of sheer laziness, then lie about it and everything would be ok. She didn’t want a daughter, she wanted to smoke weed and do nothing. Almost subconsciously she did the worst possible thing, got rid of her daughter and lied about it. I don’t think she believed she would get away with it as things escalated, I just think she had no other clue how else to conduct herself
When her mum first found her she was at her boyfriend’s house smoking weed and watching movies. This isn’t something I have against weed, hell I smoke a lot of weed, I’m just saying that seems to be all she wanted to do rather than have responsibilities
@Atlas Screaming Good point; if a trans woman is a man why don't straight men want to date trans men... Oh bc we are men? So trans women are women...? Yeah.
@Bradley Rose Caring for an unborn child doesn’t imply hating women. Why such a strong accusation? You can’t just call people sick because you don’t agree with them, you won’t come into an agreement like that...
I replied because suggesting that she should have had an abortion when we are talking about a little girl who was murdered is very very heartless...
@A Depends on whether you believe she was born a sociopath or if her childhood trauma was so hurtful that it turned her that way. Her parents let her get away with blatant lying all the time and she thought she could get away with 'extremely late-term abortion'. And, well, she did. It's sick and I hope she is facing more torment than what prison could ever offer.
You can Google her, she didn't learn a lesson. She used this case to make herself into a Z list celeb, and brags to people at bars that she got away with murder.
@Johnny Sins hey, i just saw you in another comment saying that life is hard cause you’re a white guy! please find a hobby that doesn’t include making “”anti-woke”” jokes 😌💅✨
@Sasha fun fact- the word woke didn’t even originate from white people. Anti-woke can actually have a pretty serious meaning if you’re looking at where it originated and why. But everyone has a right to their opinions i guess
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
How many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@Just SomeRandom I use logic and reason within my evangelism. If you have possessed reason and logic like you say you have, then let's discuss why you don't believe in God?
@Kayvon Crenshaw 🤦♂️Um ok whatever, preaching about god, Jesus or whichever of the 45k denominations of the same ideology you follow. Yeah you guys talk about humanity uniting under the word of God, yet you guys can't even unite your own Church. To me this is 45k different interpretatons of how bad God sucks at his job.
@Kayvon Crenshaw Go preach to someone who cares. You want to get into a Bible passage war? You will loose. You opened this can of worms and are trying to make this a nonsenical religious debate by preaching to everyone. You started this now I'm ending it.
@DarkSektori "You want to get into a Bible passage war?" Sure. Some formal dialectics can give you some clarity and help you be more perspicacious within your lack of understanding.
" You will loose. You opened this can of worms and are trying to make this a nonsenical religious debate by preaching to everyone. You started this now I'm ending it." Perfect. Know that the Children of the most High God, Jesus Christ, will prevail. I would love to see what you bring to the table.
@Kayvon Crenshaw You want to Warship a lunatic diety that's your deal. This discussion was about something completely different untill you brought your religious lunacy to the discussion so don't waste your time because I'm not responding to any more ramblings from you. Have a nice life.
@DarkSektori You do know I, of course, am defending the Christian biblical worldview, right? What do you mean by lunacy?
Here, I want to ask you a quick question. Why do you think God directly murders people? Also, why do you think murder is wrong? Just bear with me. Because I know you are trying to disprove Christianity with the dead philosophy "Problem of Evil" which has been dead since the 60s in which even Atheists find the particular arguments asinine and elementary weak.
@femblvd What was the point? To assess if you are a good person in the face of God's Law as well as to give everyone an idea whether they are going to heaven or not. Any questions? I can give you some literature for you to ponder on.
She made up people who didn’t exsist and then on her diary she legit talked about her daughters death and how she’s happy her child is dead, and the jury saw that as NOTHING, and let her go.
If in fact she was a victim of sexual abuse by her father, all this is understandable. As a professional I’ve seen the extent of the damage done to those victims. It’s PTSD at least and that takes shape in so many different ways. I feel sadness at this recount. She may well have killed her daughter and she’ll not escape that burden. She’d be a tortured soul living a tortured life for the time she was abused until the end of her life.
@Monika Styleloveshome there are plenty of people who are sitting in prison today and they had no physical evidence but it was beyond a reasonable doubt that they did the crime…
@Lovely V✨ idk but it's totally unbelievable she wasn't found guilty, innocent people are found guilty on no evidence physical or circumstantial, somebody wanted her to get away with it.
If I remember, the prosecution charged 1st degree murder and the jury had to convict on that or nothing. They couldn't charge 2nd degree if they wanted to because that's not how it works in FL.
Kurbirb It suck; but they let her go because of two reasons. 1.) I hate to admit it; but there was reasonable doubt, and 2.) It was a sacrifice. They helped her because they're all in on it. They are all part of a luciferian secret society.
@Mel Graner1 even IF she was abused that should be a separate case because at the end of the day she still killed her daughter and it wasn't caylee's fault if casey's father abused her
@Mel Graner1 You would think so but she seems to be enjoying life pretty well. She got a boob job so people wouldn't recognize her, became a private investigator, and is now writing a book about her daughter's death and her experience of being "wrongfully" accused.
@Mel Graner1 as someone with severe ptsd from prolonged sexual and physical abuse, i would never fucking THINK to kill my own child. this is a dangerous statement to make and you should know that as a professional. whatever reason she has, she didn't kill her child because of ptsd.
@Mel Graner1 how dare you say this is understandable. That was an innocent child. Why in the world would you think it's an undeniable fact that she was molested when that was never proven? You are quite naive if you think because somebody killed someone that automatically means they will be tortured by the guilt for the rest of their lives. There are evil people in this world who do not care about human life. You must have missed the interview a couple of years ago where she said she sleeps well at night. You don't know what you're talking about. Many people have been found guilty with no physical evidence but lots of circumstantial, as in this case. You are absolutely disgusting for saying anything this women did is "understandable" and you should be ashamed of yourself.
If you look up the case online, a lot of the forensics point to the fact that Caylee's was in perfect condition (perfect as in there were not traces of forced drowning and the duct tape wasn't placed on her) when they found it. A witness also testified the grandfather knew about the child's death and the grandmother admitted the way Caylee was buried was reminiscent of how they used to bury their pets. The mist likely case we can get out of this is negligence and Casey decided not to report the death in as she knew people would accuse her of murder which is probably what she's talking about in the dairy.
@Moonchild I seriously don't think I'd ever want a jury of my peers if I was ever in court. Just let the judge decide. People are so emotional and are swayed but all sorts of things
The prosecution failed to prove without a reasonable doubt that she herself killed Caylee......it’s not that she was innocent, she was found not guilty because the prosecution didn’t prove it. It was their failing.
@Moonchild my best assumption is that this case was on a national scale. as the prosecution said, since the lawyer got the oppurtunity to plead his case on national television the stakes were high and the jury’s pressure was aswell
Because having random juries deciding if someone'd guilty or not is the stupidest thing. They listen to that lawyer talk snd manipulating them and think they did justice today
@Marcellus that's not what they said/meant. But having traumatic experience can fuck you up for a lifetime. So your whole perspective on everything can be totally different from what's the norm. But in this case specifically i don't think she's actually been abused by her father but rather a sociopath.
Honestly I dont like her and think she should rot in prison, but her aloof demeaner during the investigation is exactly whats needed if being accused for a crime you didnt do. It was a smart unemotional response to not tag her as a suspect and criminalize herself, but again, im not saying shes innocent or that she doesnt deserve to rot in hell. Im saying her demeanor as a suspect is valuable to remove yourself from the possibility of criminalizing yourself.
@bigboysalmon 55 Except it was more than being accused of a random crime. Her daughter was missing for 5 weeks. Whether she killed her or not she should have been freaking out regardless.
@John Vitale i agree i was mainly trying to point out defending yourself under investigation and not incriminating yourself. i know any normal person should be panicked at their child missing
@John Vitale my daughter went missing for less then 5 mins when she was two. We was in an Abbey with my other two daughters. I freaked out, had visions of losing her.
It was only when I heard her call me and ran over to see her standing with a couple who had a baby of there own... I broke into tears. My heart raced, my head spun out all within a 3-5 min space of time...
If my daughter went missing like hers supposedly did, I'd be on the phone that very second. I wouldn't care even if I over reacted.
See as a father my daughters are my life and without them, I simply have no life. My life is entangled with theirs.
@bigboysalmon 55 If she were a stranger this would make more sense, but she's the mother so her dead, emotionally empty response makes her look guilty as hell to me.
@Normal Username with extra Generic I agree with you but I was mainly talking about incriminating words and talking to the police in general. Evidence is based on "she did this during that hour" and "she confessed to doing this, with evidence showing that X Y Z instead." You don't ever get charged on "She seemed weird and guilty as hell so let's put her in jail"- it adds to suspicion but not actual evidence to use against her if you get what I mean
@mydemonswontleavemealone I can tell that for you because you use the letter "u" instead of literally just putting two other letters before that "u" to make an actual word.
Honestly haven’t taken psychology in college I’d be on the phone immediately if I couldn’t find my daughter or son I’d be in hysterics she’s just nonchalant narcissistic it looks like and she’s more involved with herself what she wants and what’s good for her and caring about herself rather than what has happened to her daughter....That’s classic narcissism and a pathological liar
The problem wasn’t the jury, it was the prosecution charging her with first degree murder with barely any evidence. Had they built their case more and charged her accordingly with the evidence they find she would be in jail.
You cant charge someone if there is any reasonable doubt, while her behavior alone pretty much says that she's guilty, there remains reasonable doubt exactly as the defense laid out- there is mo evidence whatsoever that Casey actually killed her daughter. In fact many people who says she's guilty still disagree about what actually happened- some say that she killed her intentionally(1st degree), some say she died accidentally but due to what is still illegal or criminal behavior/negligence [such as drugging Caylee so she would sleep & she could fo out with her friends/bf dancing etc but accidentally gave her too much & she OD'd] (I'm not sure if this would be 1st 2 and/or other degree/murder), and- like the defense stated- some say there is reasonable doubt about all of it & theres no evidence that Casey actually had anything to do with her death at all & something else happened [like her drowning in a pool accidentally&Dad panicked & buried her](& this would not be a murder charge at all depending on Casey's extent of knowledge & involvement in burying her than she would have different levels of charges guilt but none including murder..).... so while it seems intuitively obvious that Casey is guilty on some level, its actually not clear what happened & if she is guilty of 1st 2and 3rd or no degree of murder, and therefore from a legal standpoint and from the standpoint of the jury where there is a huge huge huge responsibility on their hands, they have to use the evidence to determine BEYOND ANY DOUBT that she is guilty of murder, and that's simply not clear. I beleive the most likely scenario is that Caylee accidentally died &Casey panicked/didnt want to go to jail if she was negligent so she just avoided dealing at all and was to invested in her bf to care about anything else anyway bc shes self centered selfish and not mature enough to handle anything
There should never be a Jury involved in law to decide over the future of a life. As if regular people are qualified to make a decision of that extent. If that would be the case, why even bother studying law? There is a reason, no over country (to my knowledge) has a Jury but america
@Daniele Amaral They charged her with literally everything. The jury could have found her guilty for anything ranging from man 3 to murder 1, even negligent homicide- meaning she died because of Casey's actions but Casey didn't mean to kill her. There was plenty of evidence and everyone knows it. Even the jurors have said they knew she did it but couldn't say how... no one asked them fucking how. That was the world's dumbest, most incompetent jury ever. Also Casey has admitted Jose Baez lied during her trial to get her off. The only way the prosecution messed up was by excluding evidence that could have hurt her.
@Sasha Braus UK has jury service in England and Wales if the case is serious enough to go to a crown court hearing, and the accused sometimes has the right to request that, although there are some exceptions where a crown court won't have a jury (suspected jury tampering, defendant pleads autrefois, etc.).
Northern Ireland, Scotland, and other parts of the UK use different rules sometimes, but I'm pretty sure jury service is a thing in all UK countries, dependencies, and overseas territories (with the possible exception of the Indian Ocean Territories which are mostly being rented out to the U.S for military purposes)
"Great Britain, the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and more than 40 other nations employ juries of citizens drawn from the general population who decide cases collectively."
@DreadPirate Roberts Can you link me your source? Because as far as I know, the Jury system of america might be present in the anglo saxon legal system, but not in other countries. Other countries can have a "Jury" but it's very different from the US
@DreadPirate Roberts I cannot open the paper itself as I am not a Member of that website and I do nor want to make an account for this only. However as far as I understood from the little abstract text included, they looked in varietys of jurys around the world. As I stated already, very few countries have a jury system like the US. In germany we have "Schöffen" which are your basic citizen that will sit besides the judge and make the final decision with them but they are only present in very few verdicts and although they are equal to the judges who studied law, they are not the ones to make the final decision ALONE, like here. That's where I was heading to. You cannot make 12 random people do that.
@DreadPirate Roberts idk hoe it is in other countries btut there can be up to 3 judges. I prefer people with knowledge over 12 citizens who might not even listen the whole time, because it doesn't involve them anyway
@DreadPirate Roberts yeah and I am sure people will just admit they didn't pay attention. They could just as well give their vote like the others and done.
@Daniele Amaral Circumstantial evidence was abound and many a case was determined by it. The jury wanted basically a iPhone video of her doing the act, that was the standard being deployed here. A total sham of justice, if it all ends up being psychological tricks and mind games by the defense, throwing a plethora of crap on the wall hoping it sticks then this subterfuge of criminal intent, and justice is measured in the trickery one dispenses to get one out.
I have to believe that although I understand the right to a defense attorney and the obligation it therein befalls to defend your client, there at some point has to be a moral/ethical barrier one cannot cross into that goes into active deflection and trickery, and total fabrication to confuse the jury. At that point one becomes the Devil's advocate IMO.
@DreadPirate Roberts that's not what I was saying. I was saying that just because it's illegal, doesn't mean that people won't do it and after all, they decide of someones future life. So might as well not take that risk. But I respect your opinion, don't get me wrong. I just don't have the same. So let's agree to disagree and call it night:)
@A R To me there is no confusion on how Caylee died, if accidental because the POS was partying or hanging with her boyfriend or she slipped into a pool, the fact she was found duct-taped and gagged makes no sense. She was found that way because she died at the hands of the POS by INTENT as she would of screamed out otherwise. Her actions post Caylee's absence was a massive red-flag for anybody still left alive in this day and age with a lick of common sense. Like I indicated, the baseline now is that one needs a video of the deed in this age of instant image gratification with no critical thinking and deduction skills.
@lindajackson618 "demon liberals," ...what you really mean is that people who do not believe the same as you are less human. "who's kids and family are all criminals." You mean kids and families from conservatives never act ungodly and never break the law? I am simply not understanding what your point is or why you feel the need to dehumanize people.
Yeah cuz it’s criminally stupid to not put someone in jail if there isn’t enough evidence. Or maybe criminal cases shouldn’t be treated as some psychological riddle and rather treated like a human being who should be given the benefit of the doubt no matter what
well, there was proof someone googled "cloroform" or "how to make cloroform" (among other incriminating searches) before caylee went missing from their home computer at a time both of her parents were at work (premeditation), they found residue of cloroform in the trunk. and duct tape on the her skull, where she was found in the woods right near her house, where her mouth and nose would be shows that there's no other outcome consistent with that action other than suffocation/death (premeditation) and which I think shows exactly how she died, I don't get why people were so unsure. There's no other reason a child would have duct tape on their mouth, especially if they drowned and were already dead supposedly, doesn't make much sense. Also, later on after the trial, which I guess is irrelevant to the outcome because at the time they didn't know, they found out Casey did a search for "fool proof suffocation" on the last day Caylee was seen alive (at a time her parents were at work). Her defense found this but of course kept it to themselves. and the search was done in between her messaging her friends and signing in on myspace (so you know for sure it was her!) which to me is all the evidence you need. I think that could have been the smoking gun.
@Blut und Boden I think the skull with the duct tape where her nose/mouth was does show how she was killed. I don't know if they put enough emphasis on it, but there would be no good reason at all for a child to have duct tape over their mouth/nose that's consistent with anything other than the outcome of suffocation/death, especially if the child supposedly drowned and is already dead. Need not look further than that, in my opinion
The system is allowed the jury to be stupid as they want. You should go to charge the legislators for making the law to let the jury did so if you feel the jury are guilty.
People don't believe what they don't understand. Why would a mother do this? Sociopaths and psychopaths are real. There is a lack of education about mental illness in this country.
Your proposal would undermine the impartiality of the criminal justice system. Nevertheless, the jurors who spoke about it all remarked that they knew she did it, but there wasn’t enough physical evidence to meet the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard of guilt, so they had no choice but to acquit her given the facts of the case.
@David Sumner if there way any physical evidence that actually connected casey definitivley to the crime than she would be in jail, if her dna was on the duct tape, if thsy could prove that her car was on surveillance parked at the endge of forest were body dumped, if they could prove that Caylee was decompsing in her trunk at the time she was driving the vehicle on surveillance, if they could even prove circumstantial evidence like the internet searches which the MOTHER said on OATH on the stand that SHE MADE, etc...everything combinded makes casey seem guilty particularly her behavior, but you cant convict on odd behavior and circumstancial evidence thats been brught into reasonable doubt due to conplete lack of hard evidence as well as absolutely zero concept of what actualy happened and if it was even murder rather than an accident...so i disagree completely that standard would mean no one would get convicted....
@Dante's Inferno I know plenty of highschool dropouts that are far smarter than people who graduated high school...being a highschool drop-out has NOTHING to do with ones intelligence and to say so is ignorant
Judging people based on how you perceive their emotional response is never a good call. It's logic like this that ruined the life of that couple falsely accused of murdering their child when they reported them killed by a dingo. Everyone handles grief differently, and you cannot derive what is going on in a person's head from what you see in their exterior surfaces. Half the people at my oldest friend's funeral in march did not seem appropriately sad for the occasion, joking around disrespectfully the whole time, but broke into tears and fucking collapsed the moment they were asked to speak about him.
Judge her on the evidence. Do not judge her on your perception of her emotions, and never mix up your perceptions with the reality of someone else's interior world.
@IUseThisName ForMyGoogleAccount this is murder tho, not just a funeral, and also the point still stands she was accused guilty and then got sad not before then.
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Just Shizu2021-06-25 04:04:17 (edited 2021-06-25 04:06:50 )
@IUseThisName ForMyGoogleAccount ... She murdered her own child in purpose, this isn't a funeral or a sad ocassion, that damn woman murdered a child to avoid her responsability, and she showed more geniune emotions when knowing she got away with it, in comparison of all the interrogation and recordings where she acted very off.
@IUseThisName ForMyGoogleAccount Well I'm judging your decision to use this case as a credible example for us to show "leniency towards people" as you are being too lenient, uncritical, inattentive, and not concerned enough with the details of what happened. You mentioned "you cannot derive what is going on in a person's head from what you see in their exterior" True, it is unseen... Though It's true that Beliefs inform our actions, and actions have consequences. therefore you can see it externally, in a persons behaviour, action, communications ect.
I'm interested, Do you make judgements about people you meet based on information you gather from your social interactions with them? If so, what makes you think you are RIGHT or justified in believing your own decisions, which are opinions about the persons communication, attitude, language, emotions, behaviours displayed. What makes your judgement about another persons behaviour NOT only your opinion, but true enough to be believed? -you don't make sense, and you can't have it both ways. you should judge Casey's behaviour! It is a form of evidence. It is physical actions. Beliefs inform our actions, and actions have consequences.
29:53 she messes up and says to her parents "I can't even put into words how glad I am that she's HAD both of u"... then realises her mistake and changes it to, "and that she STILL HAS both of u". She's such a bad liar
The psychologists who evaluated her and “found nothing wrong” fell directly into her manipulative ability to mirror and say exactly what they wanted to hear. There is a reason they don’t send sociopaths to therapy.
@Kelly M Absolutely 110% WRONG. There's very little a psychologist can do if someone has ASPD and decent enough IQ. ASPD has clearly defined characteristics which need to be met, if someone has no prior documented history of violent behavior and they remain composed and fake empathy during the interrogation, you have nothing. We all know she did it and we all know she has ASPD but the latter was impossible to prove by psychologists given her acting skills and no prior misbehavior. Guilty as hell yet got away with it.
I thought that the "they found nothing wrong" was actually concerning due to the fact her daughter was missing. Which is abnormal for someone in those situations.
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sad pee2021-06-02 14:26:42 (edited 2021-06-02 21:18:23 )
no they see therapists when it benefits them or helps them gain power or control. in fact they thrive in a therapy setting, it empowers them. otherwise they wouldn't do it.
i read a book about how abusers exploit therapy to give credability to their perspective, cement themselves as victims, further hold power over the other as well as learn tricks and skills that they can turn around and torment their partner with. the conclusion being that you can't fix an abuser by adressing some kind of underlying cause in their background or childhood. you have to deal with their abuse directly, seperate from anything else. their issue isn't that their mommy didn't love them or whatever the issue is that they're abusive. to truly deal with that you would need some kind of specialist. abuse counceling even. other people should stay far away. EDIT: first of all you need to break up with them and sever all contact
that includes psychopaths, narcissists etc. not just your typical abuser.
@Julia Lee They can only check her for mental health issues, they aren't detectives. "found nothing wrong" was related to her (supposedly) not having mental health issues. This is sadly common for those who know how to mimic others and fake empathy. Regardless of the situation, you can't diagnose someone with anything if they don't fit the criteria behavior wise. And people like her pretend they don't...
@Ben Dover she might slip up and confess to someone someday, or if they find new evidence (don't know how it would be more damming than current evidence) then it's not double jeopardy and they could try her again.
@sad pee that's funny, I was considering going to talk to someone, but then I wondered, well what if I am wrong? They'll just go along with my side and make me think I'm right even more and cement bad behaviours instead of actually fixing the issues! Lol. It's what's made me avoid it. The questioning if I'm right or wrong and if I am wrong not to have it reinforced.
@Kelly M the psychiatrist are just looking for why the person has a flawed logic. Casey is smart at lying, she killed her daughter for a reason, she was not in psychosis. She just didn't have enough lies to spin. Secondly psychiatrist check whether or not a patient can cooperate to change their behavior. Casey isn't going to change her behavior.
The pure amount of ableism here is astounding. Please understand that while some people with npd and aspd CAN be abusers, not all of them are. Denying them therapy can be outright dangerous as it can be a very helpful tool that can make life better for them and others around them. I would reccomend watching actual aspd or npd people talk about their experiences, these people are human beings just like everyone else.
@Hunter Bidens School Dumpster Pew the book i read was "why does he do it?" by some guy. anyway, the right choice if someone is abusive is to leave them because nothing you can do can fix them. their abuse is a choice, if they wanted to stop they would have.
in fact catering to their insecurities and trying to make them feel better can have the exact opposite effect, boosting their ego and making the abuse worse. he'd just see it as another way of you tending to him and he'd feel yet more entitled. then feel justified to dish out yet more punishment.
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sad pee2021-06-02 21:17:10 (edited 2021-06-02 21:25:29 )
@lifting skieswho tf brought up npd and aspd? what even is that?
we're talking about people who are abusive and narcissistic. therapy may make them feel better or healthier but it won't stop the abuse, inflating a person like that can only serve to make things worse.
therapy is good for anyone and i would recommend it, even to abusers. but not as a means to end abuse and especially not with someone you're dating
heads up talking about the tactics and dangers of abusers isn't ableism because their abuse isn't a conditon. it's a choice. there's been studies on this i'm being serious . nothing is causing them to abuse people, they don't have underlying issues that lead to it. the stastics don't show any correlation between them. they truly are just abusive people and that's that. the contrary is a misconception that they've helped spread. although it may seem like they're insane sometimes, that's part of the strategy, causing confusion and misdirecting people away from the true problem.
now people with violent outburts could have some conditon which deserves adjustments from other people - but that's not the same as abuse. you can be abusive and never violent, you can have anger issues without being abusive.
@sad pee npd... narcissistic personality disorder... it’s the medical condition a narcissist must have to be considered a narcissist medically. Aspd is the disorder that sociopaths and psychopaths have (they both fall under the same disorder, there’s not much of a distinction or at least not enough of one to warrant two different medical conditions). And my point is that psychopaths, sociopaths, and narcissists are not inherently abusive (these terms are not interchangeable) and yes, it is literally ableist to assume otherwise.
As someone who has ASPD therapy did absolutely nothing for me until I went to someone who specialized in personality disorders. I never wanted therapy because I thought I was fine just different. I was never violent or abusive but I did think I was above others. It started taking a toll on my marriage and finally I gave in to my husbands pleas for therapy. As soon as I would go in I’d mimic who I know the therapist wanted to see. An easy case of just marital arguments and insecurities. But as soon as I came across my currant therapist she called me out on my bullshit and at first I acted as if I had no clue what she was talking about and then I just let the facade go. As some who struggles with feeling no empathy or regard for others I knew I peaked her interest when I explain I just simply didn’t care. After about a year I began to trust her and she actually has been able to help. I grew an attachment to my marriage. Will I ever learn empathy, who knows. But I will say I have more regard for another person than I did when I first began my treatment. I know I’ll never be cured but I can learn how to feel instead of just observing and learning how to mimic to get what I want.
@sad pee yeah I totally know from experience that boosting someone ego can make it just get worse. You think you're being nice and building them up and stuff and you're just cementing their view that they're superior to you.
@lifting skies I agree with this too. It astounds me how casually and acceptable it is to treat them the way they are. It's kind of ridiculous.... Some aren't aware and become aware and realize the damage and are upset and wanna fix themselves so they can live a healthy life and be happy and make others happy but are scared to seek help almost.
@lifting skies CBT/DBT is not recommended to treat aspd because it’s largely ineffective due to the symptoms. If a therapist is not extremely well versed in treating it, they’re at risk for counter-transference reactions which can be damaging to, or halt the therapeutic process all together. Therapists who are experienced in treating it aren’t readily available because few individuals with aspd seek treatment on their own. They see no issue with their behavior as it relates to others (a symptom). Those who ARE in treatment, more often than not, are there bc it's mandated. This also means they're being disproportionately treated in underfunded settings (psychiatric wards, prisons, etc.) where an aspd specialist is not likely to be. However there’s promising new research on CBTpd, a therapeutic approach specifically catered towards personality disorders. I believe there’s a comment below from an individual with aspd who benefitted from that type of therapy, but not the other ones.
She isn't a sociopath or the psychologist would have figured that out..they didn't, because there is nothing wrong with Ceasy. People don't understand her because of her social style, she keeps her emotions to herself because she is 100% task orintented and yes, this does make her able to lie effertlessly, and nobody can really know her emotional state for that reason, these people are often described as cold and insensitive for a reason, I know, because I have a brother exactly like her, but he never killed anyone, or mistreats people (like what sociopaths do). I dated a sociopath once, so, I know first hand experience that there is a huge difference between these two types of people I discribe.
@Lront psychiatrists who evaluated Laurie Daybell found her perfectly normal too, despite her believing her husband had been replaced with some other man and he and her kids became zombies because they weren't part of those chosen for rapture
Casey's parents encouraged her lying behaviour from the start. Throwing her a graduation party when she never even graduated? That alone is absurd and psychotic.
Maybe they knew how important it was to Casey, so they played along with it. Not graduating can be embarrassing for some people. I haven’t finished the video but they seem like nice people who would do anything to make their family happy.
@Bfyee the look like good people? grandma maybe? but grandpa sure as hell ain't clean 28:33 he refers to his granddaughter as that little girl if the case of chris watt taught me anything it is that a culprit is trying to distance himself from the victim
@Darkhorse I agree. I see a lot of the time people blame the parents or their childhood. Some people come from horrible backgrounds and they blossom choosing a better life for themselves, others don’t. I think letting the devil and his darkness consume you is what makes a monster
@Darion Buck I don’t think graduating was important for Casey, otherwise she would’ve worked for it like you said. However, I do think that LOOKING like she made those accomplishments was important for her, after all she had an image to maintain.
@silver surfer I feel you on that but it’s also equally possible that is a term of endearment amongst the family. Like if she is the the only granddaughter he may refer to her as “His little girl” and in thus context “that little girl” like “I love that little girl and I want that little girl home with her family” but I could just as easily see your point. More like he knows his daughter did it and he’s just saying what he needs to say to play along.
@silver surfer dudes watch one psychology video and think they have a doctorate. Is he supposed to only refer to her by her name every single time he mentions her? What is he supposed to say? You're implying he's guilty and "not clean" just because he's speaking the way family speak about each other.
Thank god you're not a cop because you'd just be arresting everyone for no reason
@Bfyee She did not go to school and missed her entire senior year because she was partying. She said the schools data was inputted wrong. Lying to all your friends and family and throwing your partying daughter is not good parenting.
when I got 2 marks off a full 100% pass, but still passed my exam and had the best result the school had ever had for that exam, my mum still asked why I didn't get those 2 marks. whereas people like the Anthonys throw their kid a party for not graduating, reinforcing that negative behaviour with reward. it's unfathomable to me.
They were to soft on her from day 1. If I missed classes or work my parents would be on my ass and give tough love. These parents just believe everything she says it's just to bizzare
@silver surfer Relax. You’re comparing apples and oranges. Chris Watts spoke of his children in the past tense and with a distancing tone the day AFTER they were reported missing. The Anthony’s had time to process and grieve. Quit reaching.
Oh absolutely, you are so correct. What was especially disgusting was Cindy doing a 180 and defending her daughter on the stand, like her granddaughter didn’t matter. And the way they encouraged her lying was and is just disgusting and so disrespectful for little, innocent Caylee, who never got justice. Just listening to this chick spin her stupid yarns really gets my goat. 🤬😤 I hope she had or has no other children.
@Bfyee when they were talking to their daughter in jail, you can tell they are genuinely very sweet and caring. makes you wonder why the daughter turned out so evil
@jasminng Yes. There are people that are born who lack empathy and not all of them end up killing or hurting others. It may because they want to avoid consequence or some other reason but it still happens.
@Angie's Tales from Wales those are two extremes. Your parents seem to be at one end so it is hard to fathom the extreme opposite. For someone else it’s hard to fathom either side, like why they would celebrate her when she didn’t even try and in your situation, why they would even care about something so little and not be so very proud of you instead. Both is very unbalanced and unhealthy.
well, here parents got in trouble because they supported their daughter. with jennifer pam they were killed/disabled because they were too demanding. every situation can make or break someone - it's how you respond. even if my parents enabled my lying i'd be shy to death and change my act and stop lying.
@Dizzy a child? She was 18 years old no family is perfect and believe me when I say every family has secrets usually to maintain an image or keep something dark hidden
@silversurfer you seriously think her father did it? When emotionally speaking of a close child people say things like ‘that little girl was the most loving….blah blah’. Unfortunately they see how spoiling her & Co signing her bullshit really backfired
@Darkhorse saying people are born evil is pretty inconsiderate and doesn’t actually help us solve any issue. The first step to making these kinds of people stop their horrific actions is to understand what pushed to that point.
Jason F.2021-10-13 16:48:44 (edited 2021-10-13 16:50:10 )
@jasminng "If a person is born evil then they don't have any choice about being evil." With this sentence of yours, you are implying that evil people are not making a choice of their own to cause harm or injury. Are you trying to absolve these people of their responsibility and accountability?
Evils are people who are capable of making concious choices to victimise people for personal gain.
@ Charles Murigu. Maybe her parents consequently felt compelled by their daughters evil antics? I mean was this really all about Casey, did she lie to them after all this hence the party…Then there’s father, did he really sexually abuse her, did mother secretly know about any of this? Seems like there are still many unanswered questions however the most puzzling questions is why did she get away with being the one and only who murdered her beautiful innocent child
Agreed, but you still can't blame them for their daughter's actions. You can say that their parenting skills (or lack thereof) are responsible for who Casie is as a person, but I don't think I'd be comfortable going any farther than that. That's just my .02 though.
@Dea Dean the “nature vs nurture” distinction is literal nonsense. Organisms are genes expressed in an environment. Is the casserole the ingredients or the cooking????
Well, we held a graduation party for me even though I had one course behind me, however we called it a "97.5% party" and where very open about me Not being 100% done, just wanted my grandma there since she was getting old. But having one after missing an entire semester is mental, I agree
Her parents seem fishy for sure… I don’t think her dad hurt her, but I think something happened to her and they’re trying to overcompensate. They pretty much made Casey have Kaylee when she did not want to.. I think they knew what happened and just didn’t want to admit it…
She and her lawyers are all evil. Her own lawyers accused the father of molestation with zero proof, yet she raved about him being a great dad in the jail visit. The father should have sued her lawyers for baseless defamation of character.
I feel like the parents kind of are either dumb or were tryna cover up for the daughter again. Cus they are acting oblivious to the fact the daughter is behind bars for possible mURDER and lying about where the daughter is. Like while talking on the phone with her in jail.
@An Ge she hooked up with him. its disgusting. she moved in with this scum bag lawyer. i cannot believe the jury. how do they sleep at night. where is the justice for that sweet baby girl. ive never been more disgusted
@Mark Hernandez there are plenty of lawyers who won’t take cases like this. public defenders are the shitty ones because they’re basically saying “i am perfectly willing to fight in court on behalf of a murderer and lie about whatever i need to in order to keep said murderer out of jail”
@Erica Mercado They were trying to extract information as much they can when they were talking with her in jail, probably on behalf of the police, and they had to go nice to extract that kind of information.........
@Matthew Hart so what do you want the good lawyers to do? take the case and then throw it? that would make it hard for them to get hired for worthy cases
@Old Man Jenkins Public Defenders are the shitty ones? I hope your loved ones are never in need of one. PD’s are upholding the law that guarantees every citizen representation if they cannot afford it. How many innocent people are arrested? The scarier ones to me are the attorneys that make massive amounts of money to defend wealthy people that commit crimes. Again, the law guarantees representation. It doesn’t mean I agree with this decision but I didn’t agree with the OJ Simpson decision either. And I’m pretty sure his expensive attorneys knew he was guilty.
As horrible as it can seem even the worst of society deserve to be defended in a court of law . A necessary evil for people who are actually innocent .
Baez makes this horrible accusation in the Opening and then never brings it up again the entire trial! That’s about as unethical as Kirk Nurmi letting Jodi Arias call Travis Alexander a pedophile and then never introducing a shred of evidence.... it’s immoral and unethical and slimy.
@Erica Mercado I honestly felt like they were afraid of Casey. They covered up for her lies her entire life.... no wonder Casey thought she could lie her way out of this murder charge.... she always got her way and even in the verdict she got her way!!! It’s disgusting.... her parents are definitely partly responsible for the vile human this monster has become.
@Old Man Jenkins I humbly disagree- public defenders are the heroes of the Justice system- seriously underpaid and overworked and they are the ones who take on so many cases for poor underprivileged people- mostly black men- who don’t have the resources to fight for their freedom, or fight against a corrupt detective ( Duke Lacrosse Team case) or ladder- climbing D.A who wants to be a Judge..... ( Ryan Ferguson case) however- I do agree there are some totally shitty defense attorneys who are only in it for the money. Public defenders don’t get rich or notoriety for winning cases.... private defense attorneys do! There are a lot of innocent people who have their public defenders to thank for not being wrongly convicted. Just saying..... and Im pretty sure Jose Baez was paid big time for this case, and if not- It made his career..... there absolutely are unethical and immoral Public Defenders that is true.....
I get what everyone is saying, But its the lawyers job to defend and prove the suspect is innocent by all means thats there job. Sometimes they dont get to pick who the defend, this situation is tough but the justice system is broken so
I’ll sue you if you don’t tell us about how the jury are idiots because so many of them were on her side than you would’ve thought.
•Casey lied to the police. •She didn’t call the police but her mother had 1 month after. •Casey was partying and not worried about her missing daughter. •The police made 2 tests on her to see if she was a psychopath or narcissist and she wasn’t showing any signs of it even though she lied so well on the interviews that any normal person couldn’t have done. •She was calm, annoyed and irritated about the police trying to help her.
@Tri Nguyen english is not my native language .. i never learned english in scool or something like that, i learned it all by myself by reading and singing english songs .. but hey thanx for the advise 😉
the lawyers have to go with what she tells them. thats their job. if she tells them the dad is a molester then thats what theyre going to argue. blame her, not them
To the people blaming her parents, I think it's more than likely that they were in a state of denial. Imagine if you started finding evidence that one of your family members was a child murderer. You'd probably be in denial as well... at least for a while.
@An Ge you are right. There is indeed a God in Heaven. Please dear Sibling believe on Jesus so that you may be one of the ones with Him. "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." Mark 16:16 KJV
The police did a wonderful job getting evidence for the trial. I can’t believe she got off. I hope the jury struggles with letting a child murder free for the rest of their lives. This woman is 100% guilty.
The defense presented an alternative explaination that the prosecutors could not disprove. This alternative explaination would also explain why she lied. The defense agreed that she certainly had some majors screws loose(but said it in a way that would sound more sympathetic) and disputed the cause of death. Given that Casey was really messed up it is reasonable to believe that she would have acted the same if her daughter had drowned in the pool due what is ultimately negligent behavior on her part.
The fact that she lied was no more than circumstantialt evidence regarding the charge of murder. They only proved that she had something to hide, but offered no direct proof on Caseys involvement in Caylees death.
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Mark Andresen2022-01-26 16:38:10 (edited 2022-01-26 16:38:29 )
@Andrew B From what I understand, most of the ''evidence'' was circumstantial For example knowing that Casey internet searched '''foolproof'' suffocation' looks very bad when you know the period of time which the search was made
@Gokaes You might be right, on the other hand the fact that the very judge of the case was shocked when the not guilty verdict was announced speaks volumes about the actual strength of the evidence.
Also, some of the jurors of the trial publicly admitted afterwards that they should have pushed harder for a conviction on a lesser charge like manslaughter.
In any case, she lied to the police about a shit ton of stuff, waited a month to report her 2 year old missing (which probably would have been even longer if her mom wasn't involved), and never showed that she actually cared. It's obvious she was the definition of a neglectful parent which indirectly or directly caused the demise of her small child. Even if you are right and there wasn't any grounds for a murder conviction, in what world should a person like that not do any jail time, at least for a lesser charge like neglect or involuntary manslaughter? If you think that the just thing in this case was to set her free, I don't know what to tell you.
@Gokaes This woman is guilty. Maybe she didn't kill her herself but she DEFINITELY played a part. What mother waits a whole month to report her child missing? What mother goes out and parties without a care in the world while her child could be in danger?
She should be behind bars and rot in a prison cell.
All you people saying no evidence....? Never reported her missing .... smoking weed watching TV when her parents came.... let the car get impounded with the smell of a dead body. The guy that supposedly introduced Casey to the nanny never worked with Casey never introduced her To the nanny and knew neither women. So many lies
Well in American law there can’t be any reasonable doubt If there is any way the defendant could be innocent then they should be let go, not following reasonable doubt puts innocent people in jail
@Gokaes And yet they send completely innocent people to jail for years for crimes they didn't do. There's a video on that on this channel. Searching for methods to kill her daughter, lying, acting happier when her daughter was dead, not saying anything about it, and the cherry on top, a virtual confession in her journal, is enough evidence. I'm judging this by the fact that a jury decided that someone accusing someone else of housebreaking, then picking their face out of a lineup was enough, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Not to mention constant contradictions, both with her and her defense.
@ulpetz maznat yes and in this case reasonable doubt didn't mean murder like someone else said In a different comment "if the charge has been less than capital punishment it would have been guilty sentence"
@ulpetz maznat well then what i meant was, she was accused of 1st-degree murder and was charged for that with the goal of getting her capital punishment, so death sentence and jury decided the evidence wasn't enough to doom her to death Sentence, but lets say if it was going just for life in prison they might have more likely said guilty
@Gokaes I don't agree that that was the reason they found her not guilty. However, even if that was the case, then the jury still miscarried justice. I served on a murder jury before, genuinely, and you have to consider whether or not the person is guilty, NOTHING else. You are not allowed to consider the sentence as a juror. The sentence is up to the judge, and in Ireland (where im from) murder automatically carries 20 years in prison. In our case we found the man guilty of murder and the judge sent him to prison for 20 years. But he was ill, and one of the jurors was reluctant to cast her vote because we all knew the man would die in prison, until we pointed out to her that the sentence had nothing to do with us, only guilt/innocence. The murderer is dead now, he did less than two years in prison. If the jury in the Anthony trial decided to find her not guilty because they didn't like the death penalty then that was a serious miscarriage of justice because it is not their role. But i don't beleive that was the reason. It was unreasonable to believe that she did not murder her daughter, but her lawyer Baez kept saying "if you have ANY doubt" they should find her not guilty - the judge should have stepped in there and corrected him, but he didn't. I believe the jury were stupid and the defence manipulated them more than they should have been permitted to.
Did you not listen to a single thing the video explained to you? You overlook the fact of what was said and discovered? How she masked everything up because she was sexually abused by her dad? It became part of her character. Psychologists during the trial gave testimony as to how this works. Why she was unable to display emotion. Jeez, you really drink that koolaid huh
@Gokaes I agree, its really hard to accept the fact she pleaded ''not guilty to all charges'' , But at least We know that the court is being careful when it comes to cases like these. If I were falsely accused, I would be glad to know circumstantial evidence isn't enough to make me guilty.
@Leo Strife The sexual abuse thing was found to be made up. The defense never discussed it again or presented evidence to support their claims. It would be like a lawyer starting their statement by screaming how the moon was made of cheese, and then moving on like nothing happened. You can ultimately say whatever you want, that doesn't make it true.
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Leo Strife2022-02-16 20:57:30 (edited 2022-02-17 13:58:41 )
@ulpetz maznat It can come down to a couple of factors. One, statute of limitations has ran. Therefore he can no longer be charged criminally. Depends on the state and if they have a statute of limitations period for rape. Two, proving it. Proving it is very hard considering you have to have evidence. For example, time, place, were his actions enough to qualify as sexual assault? or sexual harassments? There are different degrees of the charges too. Aggravated sexual assault etc. The totality of the circumstances surrounding the event, case, etc all have to make sense. I think people forget that it is easy to say someone should go to prison for something, but difficult to remember that you're taking someone's life away. That's why you need 12 people to come to the same conclusion that you are guilty when presented with clear and convincing evidence providing beyond any reasonable doubt that the person is in fact guilty. He could have admitted to it and even that could not be enough. People confess to false crimes all the time. Things they didn't commit. It's a very hard standard. People get off on technicalities all the time. I mean, you could have direct DNA evidence, a confession, and if the time doesn't sync up with the time the crime was committed, you might be acquitted. Because a reasonable person would have a doubt that the person might not have been at the crime scene during that time at all if the evidence doesn't show a correlation. This is why trials take a long time... It isn't clear cut. People watching a quick video and come to a conclusion about something is like... thinking you know how the human body fully works both inside and out by attending a basic anatomy 101 class. Long story short, we pay intelligent people who went to law school a lot of money to do this kind of thinking for us.
@ everyone in this thread who disagrees with original commenter, y’all are the population who easily is cheated on by a spouse & lied to by family. Lol.
@Leo Strife what was unclear about what I said your royal highness? Let me crank out my best for some strangers on the Internet. MLA format and all. As if. Get off your high horse
I think sometimes the jury gets confused when a person doesn’t act the way a regular person would. Casey is a sociopath, so she’s not going to act like a regular guilty person. And they’re just like “ohhh… well now i don’t know what to think…” It’s one of the shortcomings of the jury system.
@ulpetz maznat the prosecution could not disprove the defense's theory thus there is clearly reasonable doubt. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Jose is an amazing lawyer, who looked at what the prosecution had and built a alternate theory that the prosecution could not discredit, its the good old discord tech in action. This man's been saving that shit for nationals.
I still cannot believe this vile woman got let off, how can the jury live with themselves, I really don't believe this happened, sometimes the justice system is wrong👎👎👎😭😭😭
I said it from day 1 when my friend and I were watching the case that she was going to get off. Why. The prosecution could not prove how or when she died.
@Mark Andresen its not about if shes guilty, its if they prove that beyond a Reasonable Doubt. They had alot of evidence point directly towards her, but they couldnt actually stick it on her, they didnt have a smoking gun
@Mary Applecrumbles I like your opinion. But please, can you give me one for a better justice system that is fail proof on both ends? Putting guilty people in prison and one that doesn't put innocent people in prison.
@Hakan Karaağaç nope. What he said is 100% true. Its tragic but would you rather live in a place where you are guilty until proven innocent? I sure as hell wouldn't.
@Mark Andresen where did he say she was innocent? Oh right, he didn't. Slow down and read it again. Knowing someone is guilty and proving it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law are two totally different things.
@Neena Yannelli where did he say she was innocent? Seriously do people have no reading comprehension?! He simply stated why she was acquitted. Being acquitted doesn't mean you're innocent. It just means your guilt couldn't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Do you believe people should be guilty until proven innocent? If so then a lot more innocent people will be locked up because of your lack of understanding.
@George Xanthopoulos so you think people are guilty until proven innocent? The prosecution did not prove the murder charge BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Ill repeat since apparently people can't understand it. BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. The jurors felt the evidence fit a manslaughter charge, too bad thats not what she was charged with. Jurors don't choose the charges. The prosecutor does. Jurors have to make a decision about guilt on the charges presented to them not the charges they feel fits best. I pray to God you are never a juror. You do not have the understanding of the very basics of the criminal justice system to do so.
@umungus depending on the charges, yes guilty till proven other wise. This women has tons of evidence against her. Guilty till proven guilty doesn't mean innocent people will go to jail. It means that until proven other wise, they are seen as a suspect. It's how the court works. This women should have been in jail for the Murder of her kid. This is how the court system fails people.
@Mary Applecrumbles innocent. Until. Proven. Guilty. BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. the prosecutor couldn't prove the case. Couldn't prove intent. Couldn't prove how she did it. Knowing someone is guilty and proving it BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT are two different things. Maybe one day your brain will develop enough for you to understand such a simple concept but right now it seems youre just not capable of it.
@umungus no one suggested otherwise but evidence of her guilt is quite substantial while evidence of her childhood trauma is made up at last minute court scene level.
@Hakan Karaağaç cool, I dont give a fuck about the sexual abuse allegations. The evidence was circumstantial. They couldn't prove intent which is necessary for a murder charge, they couldn't prove how she did it and they couldn't prove that she was the one who actually did it. Circumstantial evidence should not be enough to execute someone. Circumstantial evidence leaves room for REASONABLE DOUBT. As some of the jurors have said publicly, they would have convicted her of manslaughter but that wasn't the charge presented to them. They couldn't prove she was guilty of murder. Knowing she's guilty and proving are two different things. When you grow up maybe you'll be able to grasp this simple concept.
It was one juror held out and argued that because they can't prove how Caylee died it could've been an accident. They even told the court thos one juror seemed to have her own agenda but they left her in.
@Felix AP hmmm just went back through the thread and dont see anyone saying she is innocent. Its okay to admit you dont know how the criminal justice system works. I like how in your comment you advocate for circumstantial evidence to be enough to convict someone and then a few sentences later you do the opposite. I absolutely would have the same energy for that man because situations like that are exactly why we have innocent until proven guilty and exactly why I don't think circumstantial evidence is enough to convict. Just understand that in the first half of your comment you advocate for that man to be convicted even if there is reasonable doubt. Again I dont think this woman is innocent, but there is a difference between knowing someone is guilty and proving it in court. Try again.
@jaim haas Yeah, there simply wasn't enough evidence to make the charges they went with stick. A lower sentence would have stuck with virtual certainty.
Unfortunately, the prosecutors overcharged the case leaving no option to be found guilty of 2nd degree murder or less. While it’s quite probable that she premeditated the murder, the evidence wasn’t ironclad and her defense was able to poke holes into it, thus leaving room for reasonable doubt. I was disgusted as a member of the legal profession
@JEB As a member of the legal profession you should be very well disgusted with your slimey practice of plea bargaining as a short cut to prove the facts or make 12 involuntary jurors believe your spiel.
The google search is pretty damning. Absent of that I could see that maybe somebody else did it and Casey just doesn't care about her daughter at all or even thought "good riddance". But her doing a google search on how to suffocate a child on the same day that the child disappears, and when the child is found it was indeed suffocated .. combined with the foul smell in the trunk of her car , and the tattoo celebrating her freedom .. that leaves VERY little "reasonable doubt" ...
@SynValorum Yeah...my thoughts as well. Like the OJ Simpson case....the prosecturs can present all the evidence they want but the jury can simply say "not guilty..don't care about the facts.." Ridiculous
Kevin L I just don’t understand though, so many of her statements were later proved to be lies, from her ever looking for Caylee, working at universal studios (she never ever had a job), to making up a fake person as her nanny. So fucking insane like how does that not scream guilty ? The criminal justice system is bullshit and useless
@SynValorum blaming the entire legal system on one guy, who has clearly stated he knows and is disgusted by such things, seems pretty silly. 97% of cases are pled out. It is not @J Bollen's fault.
@biZZy bee that doesn't make sense. If they were manipulating the system, why did they go with "my father raped me" defense if he was the one pulling the strings? Also, they're estranged now so i don't think he appreciated the way that went down.
@JEB if you're a lawyer could you explain what you mean by that? They didn't just charge her with 1st degree murder, she was acquitted on multiple lesser charges as well down to the relatively minor "child endangerment". It seems to me like if they couldn't seal that then 2nd degree murder wouldn't have stuck either.
You hit it on the nose,it’s so many things that portray her being responsible... so many things just can’t be a coincidence. It’s sad how some people are rotting in jail without a single piece of evidence while this bitch would walk free even if there was a video of her killing the child.
Sad thing is the same thing could happen to the cop that killed Floyd. If they push 1st degree murder, he will walk free. 2nd degree murder and he might walk free. This is why its important for the public and the state to take their time on these trials. We, the public, get impatient and push for something to happen. With no evidence of Casey premeditating the killing of her daughter, there are no grounds for her to be charged with 1st degree murder. Same with that cop. Since the lab reports show a heart attack caused Floyds death and since he had drugs in his system that can cause a heart attack, even second degree murder will be tough to pin on him. Even though what he did was completely wrong, and not one person in this country sides with him, the state needs to be very careful how they proceed or we will have another Casey Anthony case on our hands. And that wont go over well with the current climate in our country. So I wouldn't be disgusted with the people who let her walk free. The jury did their job 100% correctly. I would be upset with the DA for how they started the case.
@Bjorn Ironsides the state didn't have neglect on the table. They wanted to put her on trial for 1st degree. The state screwed up on this one BIG time.
I watched the entire trial and predicted that she would be found not guilty towards the end. There is a lot this video leaves out. This trial was on like 12 hours everyday with a lot of testimonies. The state could not prove it's case and there was reasonable doubt. I still don't know what actually happened because the entire family is shady. Cindy and George were the ones who went on talk shows when it was over. The prosecutor was the one who wrote a book. All the things Nancy Grace said would happen didn't.
@castirondude And who cleaned all of the DNA out of the trunk? Why did Casey choose a location that was so close to the home when she could have gone on the highway and been surrounded by miles of forests. She is painted as this evil genius but at the same time doesn't know anything about suffocation. Those searches were also not made on the same day from what I recall and her mother said she was the one who looked up chlorophyll for work.
@Jessica Beltran If you watched the full trial, you may understand. There was reasonable doubt. Every piece of circumstantial evidence that was presented by the prosecution was debated.
@MarLaoutat's Gaming Collectibles She didn't search for those terms the day she died from what I remember. The defense argued that the tape was from the rest of the garbage in the area and they could not prove it was attached to the skull. The area where her body was found was flooded and a regular dumping site. There is so much this video left out in regards to the actual case.
@Backcountry Sass'n Not one person? After the bodycam was released? Don't go to the comments section of that video if you aren't prepared to have your worldview shattered. The officers have a very good chance of walking.
The jurry let her off cause her DNA wasn’t on the duct tape. There were too many holes in the case surrounding how Caylee was actually murdered. I still think it’s bullshit
I'm on my 45834 rewatch, and i just noticed, Casey had a brother. He sounds completely checked out of the situation, it seems he has a lifetime of experience dealing with his sister's bullshit and their parent's enabling. He sounded so done with everything.
I agree. The way they spoke is so telling, it sounds almost exasperated. Like this is all-too typical of her and her behavior. I wish they would have questioned him on her behavior as a child to prove the pattern of manipulating and lying.
@Avery Young If you are so unlucky to have a daughter Pisces - I advise to help her grow up as an actress. If she polymorphs, lies and pretends - lets convert it to a nice job. Also they will thank you for parties, money, celebrities, bright life and all this stuff.
@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie No, male Pisces are a different story. They're just macho man. Like James Bond or John McClane. Their obsession of being looked as the real man is annoying as hell. But it's harmless. In fact these guys are vulnerable and emotional.
@Yngwar stop talking about zodiac signs giant balls of combustion in space light years away have nothing to do with your life. You blaming an entire group of people, approximately 333 million people, for the action of a slim portion that you’ve met is 1. ignorant and 2. shameful
Considering how the moon does influence people, and we are in a electromagnetic environment where frequencies are very important, you should reconsider and verify the model you are describing first.
The brother was so full of the BS. And when the lawyer told the story of Casey's dad abusing her as a child, the first thing that came to my mind was that he probably didn't, as accepting a lie like that being told of him to save his little princess went so well with all the other enabling the parents have done all her life...
me too - that little kids face haunts me . What a gorgeous gift she was & i hate tge way her mum behaved infuriates me & she can it seems flirt her way out of many issues.
@Yngwar lmao theyre mad at you for talking ab astrology but i agree she does have some very underdeveloped pisces traits. Male pisces have these traits for sure too though
@Yngwar Pisces ♓ can, indeed, lie easily. I was as manipulating and conniving in my 20's....when I needed to explain away my "sins" to convince others that I was a victim of circumstance...I always blamed the men in my life...Now, I look back in sheer horror at my past, having surrendered "self" to our only Lord and Savior...I feel like the Picture of Dorian Gray. So, the greatest punishment is living with one's self. Try to be there for your sister...she does love you.
@On The Edge Yes...White privilege is insane...Charles Dickens would die laughing since, as a form of sociologist, he wrote about the horrendous poverty in the UK and the harsh abuse suffered by little children at the hands of indutrialists..."David Copperfield" "Oliver Twist" and other books that depict the extreme child labor conditions.
@Yngwar astrology has legitimacy to it, you're oversimplifying it way too much though. We all have different ratios of all 12 energies and we're all a lot more than just our sun signs. Unevolved people with a lot of strong water can be pretty manipulative, yeah, but its certainly not a rule of thumb and trying to lump every pices in that group is just wrong.
@MCΔT You’re so wise and knowledgeable about unobservable phenomenon that I’m awestruck by your amazingness. That’s really cute kid. There’s cookies and cool aid in the corner when you’re done playing astrology.
The science fiction model promoted is not accurate, our environement is the contrary of what people think. A very important topic. Everyone should verify or falsify the reality they are presented by the status quo
It makes me sad the answers to this turned into astrology war because looking away from star signs, this is a well known abusive situation known as Golden Child and Scapegoats, where one sibling is loved by the abusive parents, given every right, and never disciplined, while the other plays literal scapegoat, being faulted for everything the GC does, yelled at for every little thing, justified or not Usually, the scapegoat will resent the entire family, and the GC will turn out to be a horribly entitled human being who never realizes what they've lived through, while the parents turn into those "MY ANGEL WOULD NEVER DO SUCH THINGS" type
@Princc Elijah again, you gotta use it in tandem with other principles of psychology. It not even remotely a perfect tool, but it can be very useful. This is less an astrology case and more a horrible parenting case, I agree with you. Some people would be more susceptible to that sort of damadge than others, thats the metric that astrology would be able to partially indicate.
@MCΔT I can’t comment on the astrology water signs part of your reply because I don’t know enough about but the sun doesn’t change in any significant way to cause vitamin d deficiency the only thing that matters is if you stay out in the sun long enough,the neighboring planets are to far away to affect us ,and I found a study saying that magnetic fields are perceived by humans unconsciously,they can drop alpha waves in the brain but quickly recover after a few seconds like other stimuli but they were not noticed consciously.also I have tried acupuncture and it didn’t work for me.
@John frum My point with the sun was just to demonstrate a way that it effects us, certain times of the year theres more weather and youd get less sunlight which could have an effect but thats not really my point. "They're too far away to have an effect" is just not true, Venus and Jupiter in particular have a big impact on our weather and the wobble of the earths orbit (which effects the magnetic field), and yeah, most of the effects it would have would be subconscious, your subconscious is a big part of who you are and your behavior.
@MCΔT well I’m not gonna discuss about the affect of Jupiter and Venus magnetic fields anymore ,but is the wobble you are talking about the 405,000 years cycle?
@John frum that would be the one. It completes after 405,000 years, but during that entire time there are miniscule shifts. Caused by other planets. To the way that our planet moves. Which dictates the tiny little fluctuations in the magnetic field that is a result of the spin of our iron core. Are you trying to learn or disprove me, because you're not doing a good job of either.
@MCΔT you really have the audacity to talk about astrology on a video about a child being murdered. You’re so disconnected from reality it’s sad and I’m not referring to astrology but the fact you think this is appropriate
@Jomamasuks its not like its the childs fucking funeral, its a youtube comment section. Relax. There's a thousand other comments talking about how horrible and tragic this is, you wanna focus on that go read them. This is a psychology video, its a case study on the behavior of this woman. Its not a memorial to the victim.
@Jomamasuks that's kind of insensitive, kaylee isnt gonna get to experience this new year. The fact that you thought it was ok to say that really shows your complete lack of morals. This is about little kaylee, not either of our lives.
This video is 67 minutes long 67×45834=3070878 minutes That is 51181.3 hours There are 8760 hours in a year This video came out a year and 4 months ago That is 11 687.7504 hours long, still not enough time to watch this video the amount of times you claim Seeing as there are 8760 hours in a year you would have to watch this vid for about 5.2 years (45834÷hours in a year 8760) Unless you are from the future, you have lied to all of us...hope you can sleep at night knowing how you just lied smh 😤🧐
He instantly knew she was full of shit. I don’t think anybody in this world would go 30 minutes without calling the police. An entire month? What was she thinking. She really thought people would believe her, and in the end they actually did. Crazy
I know others have already said this but I also recommend paying for his Patreon. The additional content is great and as you implied the channel does deserve to be compensated for the quality content it puts out.
Christina: crying if something happened to that little girl, I'll die.
Casey: ugh calling you guys was a WASTE. Huge waste.
It's scary how cold she becomes when she shows her true colours. The way she acted throughout this investigation alone is enough to show she's guilty. Now add to that all the lies about the babysitter, the 31 day waiting period, the google search, the decomposition smell in her trunk, and the lack of remorse... It's disgusting that she walked off free. The only real emotion she displayed was when she was found not guilty, because she only cares about herself.
i work here at nickalodeon police go there bring her- oooo ummmm that was a total lie i dont work here i gave my kid to a nanny called zanny police look in to it- ooooo that was a lie to ....she doesnt exist. i met the nanny from this guy guy comes to court- yeah ive never met this person, and i have no kids and no nanny. car smells like a dead body ....impounded. kid is found dead with her personal stuff from the house. google search results confrim searched phrases of ( suffication, total suffication, ect) <---basically how to instructions on how to murder casey goes free. this is the BIGGEST fail of justice ive ever seen in my life. ever
Agree totally that she only cares about herself. She's most upset in the video call when her parents talk about their love for her etc but not about her missing daughter 😭😭
I admit I’m late on this horrible story of the Casey Anthony and that her poor sweet daughter appearing deceased. I couldn’t watch this story cuz its so horrible. As a mother and having ,my worst fear is my child becoming missing. I just could not watch. It was too horrible for me. Anyway, that being said, Casey Anthony seems jealous of her daughters relationship she had with her parents. Casey always showed emotion when her parents showed her love and concern. I believe she made up that molestation about her father. I can not believe she was found not guilty!! She is so guilty! Not guilty on all accounts!?? Really!?? That’s nuts. Casey is so fake and goes along with whatever she wants to believe. Its like she’s trying to manifests how she wants her life to be like. #CaseyAnthonyGuilty
So nobody asked the obvious question after the fact, wtf happened to Caylee? This is just fucked up. Sure Casey isn't to blame legally I suppose but how did a murder spiral into this? Theres still a murderer if were to assume Casey isn't the murderer. This was never about Casey, this was about bringing justice to the person who murdered Caylee. And to that, they pretty much failed because they never caught anyone -_-
I’m late to the show here but Casey’s initial phone call with her mom, brother, and friend is absolutely appalling. Her friend cared more about finding Caylee than her own mom did. Casey’s annoyance with them is disgusting.
@Niko Las She had to be. I mean what kind of woman would kill her baby, keep the corpse in trunk. Didn't you noticed how Christina was pleading with her "I will die .. you know I will die without her"
She is a sociopath. What did you think? Also she used to be an innocent 3 year old. How does she go from that to sociopath? Who raised her? Think in an unbiased manner.
@Jonas Cox-Leow i’m not blaming them… Just stating they had a hand in creating her unaccountable behavior. Did you hear the narrator state how they cover up her failing school? They gave her a graduation party and told everyone she graduated with honors. What do you think that taught her?
@Mimi BrownI was just thinking the exact same thing Mimi. That was a strange thing to do, to throw a fake graduation party for a high school drop out! My parents would have been furious with me if I had lied to them in this way. I certainly wouldn't have been given a party. So, Casey's lying was being reinforced, and you have to wonder why her parents did that and how long it went on. What is also strange is that the mother KNOWS that her daughter is quite capable of lying, because she's been doing it for years, but she still chooses to believe Casey's story. But, to be fair, she would want to believe it. This is so strange.
If the investigator had asked Casey about childhood sexual abuse by her father, they could perhaps have got a confession. Her defense could then have used negligent upbringing in her defense as well, and her father, who seems strangely peripheral in the documentary, wouldn’t have skated. You’ll say I can’t know, and this is true, I can’t. But 12 years in psychiatry taught me to recognize certain patterns. If the hypothesis holds up, her father taught her all her »impossible« character traits: That little girls' life don’t matter, to wear a bland face under unbearable stress, to become a proficient liar aso. Oh and her mother knew – at least subconsciously, but chose not to . That’s why Casey could get away with the truancy and have her mother cover for her. Was Casey’s daughter ever DNA tested? The father could be the big surprise…
Put me in a room with her along with a board and a jug of water and we'll find the damn TRUTH!!!......oh shit, we're in America :/......DAMN. Unsolved cases till the end of time in the USA :/
nah, anyone and even her parents should have and would have if you had (regular common sense & any amount of being observant) would have went straight to police /detectives letting them know that our visit was off and i know she did it, knows who did it, knows where she was and to go deeper with her bullshit and play her own game
he has another channel "J C S" it has 4 more videos the last was posted 2 months ago. I'm not sure if he's continuing the channel there but I hope it gets figured out.
While burning in hell, Hitler probably looked up at this trial and smiled for just a moment, knowing at least there was one person worse than him after all
Damn those Jury all concluded not guilty for all the charges wtf. Most cases are carried through empathy for the victim, but instead this case carried through empathy for the suspect.
Horrible as this case is, much of it is hard to hear and imagine. I had to stop it at 58:00 because of what was said at 57:30. I could not make it to the end of the program.
@A D Not all people. Just the psychopaths. It's their fault many of us think there's something seriously wrong about human race. Almost all the most violent crimes are their handwriting, either directly or non-directly.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
@azsuter I can agree with that. We are very emotional people, and like everyone else I think Casey is guilty, and wishes there had been enough evidence to convict. Even though the circumstantial evidence all points to Casey, the defense.planted enough reasonable doubt. What I do not understand, however, is why they didn't find her guilty of any type of neglect.
The police should frame these kind of people like they France blwck people. That monster is free, and probably living the american life rn. Good bless America
i dont get how psycholgoists did not see that she is a sociopath...im still completing my degree in psychology but if you know energy like i do you know that this woman is evil and has no care and is such a sociopath. her diary entry and the partying is fucking disturbing. if i lost my daughter or if she went missing i would fucking go krazy as hell. i mean it is such common sense. those psychologists should find a new profession. i wish this video could have been seen earlier. this is just so disturbing
I saw Casey at a bar in downtown west palm beach on st Patrick’s day last year and everyone was cussing her out calling her a murderer and it pisses me off she’s free but it was great to see a mob of people yelling at her
I imagine she gets that everywhere she goes. She’s NATIONALLY known. She may not be behind bars but people will always remember what she did and in a way I imagine she’s in her own personal hell because of it. In a way you can argue that it’s justice served because in prison I’d imagine she wouldn’t have mobs of people calling her out like the general public would.
@Pidgeon Man No, she loves the attention. I’m from Orlando, she’s straight up evil. If she really was in hell she wouldn’t have the audacity to be constantly partying and putting herself in clubs that post pictures online. Literally every picture of her is her smiling and laughing ear to ear.
She moved to Martin County and had to move 3 times as people found out where she lived. Put signs up out front. Constantly stood outside and abused her. Sick, twisted person.
She definitely did it or her boyfriend. I wish they would’ve questioned him or something. Maybe I missed it but they barely spoke about him with the child.
@mark2073 Doubt it as there are many underground organisations that track these people just to keep he current profile updated and to inform the public. This will stay with her till her dying day when she WILL meet the ultimate judge.
When I was 10 or 11 I went to America and went to universal studios, I went on the Incredible Hulk ride (one of the best) and I remember this lady where our pictures was, weird
This is what you get when amateurs who have no legal education what so ever decide who is guilty and who's not. The whole concept of jury is weird to me. It's not that hard for professional lawyers and prosecutors to mislead a jury.
@pyllywaltteri It also has to do with how these trials work in the United States in the first place. In other countries, you do the trial, see what happened then decide what the person is guilty or not guilty of. - In the US you decide what to charge the person with BEFORE the trial. So a person who gets charged for 1st degree murder can't be convicted for 2nd degree murder or whatever. If you decide to charge with 1st degree murder, then it has to be 1st degree murder. It's pretty stupid in general.
so the only theory i can come up with if she didnt kill her daughter, she found her daughter lifeless in a pool, her built up anxiety kicked in, didnt call the police, instead wrapped duck tape around her, put her in a garbage bag, and dumped her into the trash, and had the delusion that nothing was going to happen because it is proven anxiety does cause people to be untethered from reality, or delusional. its not that far fetched if considering that her dad really did sexually abuse her and forced her not to tell anyone.
Could you imagine being called to court to testify for someone that you only know as an acquaintance who attempted to use your name in order to cover-up a murder. Wild.
45:25.. She is about to confess the whole thing!!! Then Detective bonehead walks in.."Hyuck hyuck.. whatcha talkin bout?" God I about screamed at the computer when I saw that!
I know very little about this case... but, wtf. "Sweetheart, darling, gorgeous?" And throwing her a fake "graduation party?" These parent's are hard-core enablers to her demented self. They all make me sick.
Yea definitely enablers but you also have to feel for them, imagine knowing more than probable that your daughter has murdered their own child. I wouldn’t know what to think about life anymore.
@Steven Diaz also keep in mind that they now don’t have a grandchild to love either so Casey while being a monster is all they have left to give love to really
If it was them that paid for the shark lawyer, then they should be tried for negligence leading to the death of their granddaughter, and aiding and abetting their daughter in evading justice. It all rests on them. Enablers have to understand that when you enable someone to do terrible things, it's on you too, though usually to a lesser degree. If they paid for the lawyer that got her off, then it's all on them. They knew their daughter well. You can tell when her mother wanted to see her eyes. She's seen that reaction before many many times. Before she suspected, at that point she knew, and so did her dad.
Yep. Her behaviour should’ve been reined in years ago, she’s been enabled to lie and get away with it since a young age. No excuse, but this behaviour could be been stopped, and a child would not have died,
@Si74l0rd of course, I mean - the mom knew when they called 9-11.. the care smelled funny? come on.. the only thing she was hoping was that it was an accident.
Dude what?!? Yes they were enablers to some bad behaviors, but they had no hand in her becoming a murderer of her own daughter. They clearly were distraught and left with a difficult decision of loving their daughter unconditionally and hating the primary suspect in the case of their grand daughter’s death. I’d never wish that on any grandparent, let alone try to establish blame on them.
@Si74l0rd You obviously don't have children. Your attempts at "reining them in" only go so far. At some point, every individual's life becomes 100% their own. There are spoiled children who have been given everything who become entitled ingrates, and there are children who had nothing become unforeseeably successful - and every combination in between. Also, they raised Casey and they probably fully suspect her for killing her daughter. But they can't ever forget their memories of her as a baby and all the past they had with her. She is still their daughter. Those emotional constraints, for normal people, are incredibly difficult to sever. They will always see Casey as their little girl. I can understand their conflict, even though I believe Casey is about as close to a soulless killer as one can get.
@Dwight Renfield It's exactly because I do have kids that I hold this opinion. It's my job to raise them right. You're right that not all kids are the same, but one thing guaranteed to screw up an upbringing is a lack of rules and a lack of attention to your kids.
There will always be some people that are broken, but I don't believe Casey started out that way. I strongly suspect it's learned behaviour, and was born from attention seeking as a kid, and not getting attention whether positive or negative. The fact they let her lie with impunity is what caused her eventual issues though. If people call bullshit every time you spin a tale, it soon stops happening. When your kid doesn't want to lie to you because they know you know, when they do. That I have experience of, as a parent. It's irresponsible not to raise a kid right, when you brought them into the world. If you can't do it, give them to someone who will. Plenty of them out there. As I said, Casey could have handed custody to her parents, she knew that, her parents knew that. But instead she killed her. It's because I'm a parent that I apportion them some of that blame. Supporting your child doesn't mean supporting their lies!
Edit: For the record, my kids know, because I have told them throughout their lives that I will fight for them like a mama bear, but they also know that I insist on knowing the situation up front. I refuse to be blindsided in a confrontation because I was fed a story. So my kids don't lie to my face, and right or wrong, I'll stand with them. But that means in this situation I'd have driven her down to the station, I'd have sat with her in the interview room, and I'd have used every bit of my influence to get the truth of the matter out. And then I'd stand by her and visit weekly until she got out, or was executed. I'm no holy roller, but if you want peace of mind and something of a life moving forward then you have to shed baggage like that. The truth will set you free, and it would have been better for her had she told the truth. And better for her parents, and better for her dead daughter. There's nothing good come of this at all. Someone who could have been straightened out is likely forever lost. As a parent that saddens me.
As for bad behaviour in general, almost every kid has a rebellious phase, and that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the 12 years prior to that when you had an opportunity to set up a solid foundation.
Mainly to me the culpability of her parents rests upon who paid for the shark lawyer. If it's her parents, they're fully as bad as she is. I can't see it any other way. A lawyer like that is hired at great expense, for the sole purpose of getting shady characters off. You've already lost the case in my eyes at that point. Doubly so if the parents paid, when the first thing he did was accuse her father of child molestation. I have no time for legal games. I have morality. As far as I'm concerned neither she nor her parents have any morality at all.
As much as I love my kids, I would want justice for the person they murdered. It's who I am. It's how I raised my kids. It's ok to fuck up. Admit it, resolve the issues that come up as a result. Move on with a clear conscience and without that baggage. Enabling is a cowardly act designed to sooth your own denial about what someone has become, but on that level it's despicable.
I partially agree, but remember at this point their main goal was to find Caylee. And it makes sense that they thought that they would get the most information if they used an empathetic angle. And no one, not even the most no-nonsense, rational people would want to believe their child could be so evil.
@Si74l0rd You make excellent points.....do you think the father said to the lawyer.....go ahead and throw me under the bus (the sexual accusations) if it saves my daughter?
I believe the parents coordinated with the police to get more info out of her. And being nice is how to get people off guard so that they accidentally give off hints
oh they paid for their decisions... I can only imagine how much hearth ache or how much they blame themselves for their grand daughter's death. The mother sure aint.
Yes they did enable her but why do you expect them to just give up their daughter and treat her like sh? (especially when as parents, they want to believe that she's innocent). They could've done a better job at raising her but an individual's behaviour depends on their surroundings (home/school/work/friends/acquatances whatever). Blaming the parents is a bit too harsh.
Everyone is an expert until it happens to them. Text book parenting does not exist! Perfect parenting does not exist. You can raise your children up the best way possible with moral in tact and only be surprised by some revolt actions.
In the end parents will always feel responsible because they are constantly battling their own actions and reactions and thinking that they could handle things better than. Parents always blame themselves for the failures of their kids. To point fingers to others for their lacking and failings speaks volumes just by the fact that every single person felt the need to say something against someone else's failures.
The lack of empathy or thought towards the parents or the rest of the family is scary and the fact that most people's first instinct is to accuse and find fault and voice their opinions publicly reveals character traits and flaws in itself.
Juliette Lewis??? That was the best name she could come up with??? An actress that disappeared after her career was done??? She could have come up with something better than that lol
Zanny....xanny....Xanax.....the nanny might've been Xanax. Aka. she gave the child Xanax to keep the child asleep or whatever and maybe the child overdosed on Xanax.
"In September 2008, a Zenaida Gonzalez sued Casey for defamation. During the investigation, Anthony told investigators that she left 2+1⁄2-year-old Caylee with a babysitter named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez—also known as "Zanny"—on June 16 at the stairs of a specific apartment in the Sawgrass apartment complex located in Orlando. Zenaida Gonzalez, who was listed on apartment records as having visited apartments on that date, was questioned by police, but stated she did not know Casey or Caylee."
instead of seething over the injustice of this case, changes need to be made, get rid of jurys once and for all! People are too dumb. especially americans to make these kinds of decisions.
People saying she 'acted like' she was above the law, but she really was, her entire life is testament to that, she will never face consequences, there is no justice in this world because of it, just a mock one, applied to some.
There is justice in the next life for a just God is the one who judges us all. And everyone is guilty and would all receive justice if it wasn’t for His mercy that is given to some.
This may be a little bit true, but there is no escape from the justice of God. And who's to say she's living a good life now? Would anyone in their right mind even think about hiring this woman or working beside her?
Jokes aside, her sentence is her sociopathy. She will never know what it is to love or be loved for the character she has. People who say there is no justice are narrow minded and think that people like her, or people like Trump have a worthwhile life. One can just look at Trump's "friends" and ask themselves if they would want any one of them in their own life and if the answer is yes, I guess, in their mind justice will never be served. In reality, they already chose their sentence.
Brayman85 you pay for the past sins that are not repented of for sure. If not in this life than in the next. Repent and believe the Gospel before it is to late. Trust in the one who has the power to destroy both body and soul and cast you into hell. I agree I do hope she has repented though and will go to heaven but, who knows. Only God can melt a heart of stone.
Jeffrey Bone well it is fact so yep. Though it is foolishness to those who are perishing so I can understand why you would think it is untrue despite the historical evidence though good trust in God himself and His word is what matters. Sadly many people who don’t believe have there hearts hardened since they are told that they will have anything they want if they believe which isn’t biblical. They tend to think of God as a genie and when he doesn’t deliver they are angry at God especially when mocked. However, by God’s providence I know that He saves my soul from sin and hell and does as He pleases. He isn’t a genie He is the all powerful all knowing Holy, Just, and Merciful God of the universe. Regardless, have a nice day you are in my prayers just as many others only God can melt a heart of stone.
@Jeffrey Bone And somehow you think that's an advantage. It does make it easier to never have to make something of one's life or work on one's character, leaving it empty, shallow and worthless, requiring constant attention and superficial "wins" to try and fulfill a bottomless pit. It's only an advantage to her if you think that succeeding to con people means something worthwhile.
@Mr Will You'll first have to show there is an afterlife. Justice is mostly a misconception and what you're talking about is vengeance. If you think that that is justice, you haven't the first clue about justice.
Her mother is at fault as well. She took notes during her daughter's testimony at court. Then when it was her turn to testify, she changed her original statements and helped her daughter not get convicted. I was so upset when I saw this happen. All the talking heads on courtTV were dumbfounded.
chocol8milk we live in a corrupt world. It is a fools errand to seek justice from a fallen world. However, as long as God holds back the evil in peoples hearts they will seek justice.
Mikel if God had not ordained that child dying at that exact time then it would have been meaningless. That child would have not had any purpose in living in the first place. However, what we as humans mean for evil God still means for good. An example of this is when Joseph was sold into slavery by his brothers in Genesis and yet God meant that instance for good despite what His brothers did. Joseph then was put into a great position of power and was able to save Jacob and the children from a famine that would come. In the same instance something as terrible as the bubonic plague may have you question how does a good God allow such a thing to happen? Again we as feeble small humans who have no idea of the future may say this however, we are not God we are not all knowing He is. And when we can not possibly fathom how something like nazi concentration camps can be for the ultimate good or communist countries that kill there own citizens can be for the ultimate good we as people who love the God who created us trust His goodness and trust He knows what He is doing and we Trust He is in complete control. What you probably don’t realize is if God was only Just and not merciful He would simply say the words and every person on earth would be dead and be in an eternity of torment and sin never ending rebellion toward the one who made us it is terrible to think of such a place but, it is what we all deserve and why? Despite our disposition to believe we are good people none of us are we have all broken God’s law and are guilty sinners you and I are both guilty and if God gave us justice we would go to hell. God is good despite what happens to us or this world God is good despite what happens to us. It is who He is He is good. We on the other hand are enemies of God bu nature. So it is only natural for you to hate God. Lastly God is the one who gives life and He has every right to take it away. You have no choice in the matter when the time comes you will die God has ordained that day and if you have not repented and trusted alone in Christ’s finished work on the cross you will receive Justice. No one deserves to go to heaven we all deserve to go to hell it is our wages. However, in God’s mercy He has allowed all those who would forsake there sin go to Him with a contrite heart and admit how they have sinned against Him and ask for His forgiveness trusting alone In Jesus work on the cross living a perfect life being the substitute for our sins that justice can be served in the after life and our debt being paid to all those who would trust in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior as there God the only God of the universe.
Not punishing your kids is the WORST thing a parent can do. You don't have to be violent in punishment but you HAVE to punish your kids. My brother-in-law has been in prison multiple times in his life and STILL lies to everyone and thinks the world belongs to him because my mother-in-law always forgave him and said it's ok his whole life. Now, finally, he has pushed too hard and was caught stealing directly from his mom again and she stopped giving in. Now he whines and tries to put blame on her constantly for everything. He's out of prison right now but I know quite a few "minor" things he does against the law still so I'm sure it will catch up to him soon
At time stamp 29:53 Casey says to her parents while visiting her, I assume in jail, that "I can't even put it into words how glad I am that she's (Caylee) HAD both of you." She then quickly corrects herself. She knew her daughter was dead, that's why Casey used past tense. That was the exact same slip that helped solve the Soham murders back in 2002. There was no justice for Caylee... and Casey is still alive and living free.
@UCgFqNOF6Zo0CQea18fJIs6Q No, English is my first language. While I respect your opinion and most definitely agree with you in with any situation that's not dealing with such a sirspicious circumstance. The circumstances would denote that it was a slip of the tongue, as it were. In the seconds that soon follow she realises what she's said and quickly amends her statement to the present tense. As I had previously stated, in the Soham Murders of 2002, while interviewing Maxine Ann Carr (girlfriend of the murder), a television interviewer noted that Maxine was talking about both the girls in the past tense, while it wasn't believed that they weren't dead at this point, only missing. This would prove to be the catalyst for the police investing both her and her partner as suspects.
@UCgFqNOF6Zo0CQea18fJIs6Q No, English is my first language. While I respect your opinion and most definitely agree with you in with any situation that's not dealing with such a sirspicious circumstance. The circumstances would denote that it was a slip of the tongue, as it were. In the seconds that soon follow she realises what she's said and quickly amends her statement to the present tense. As I had previously stated, in the Soham Murders of 2002, while interviewing Maxine Ann Carr (girlfriend of the murder), a television interviewer noted that Maxine was talking about both the girls in the past tense, while it wasn't believed that they weren't dead at this point, only missing. This would prove to be the catalyst for the police investing both her and her partner as suspects.
Her mothers reaction to hearing this says it all, it's like she's finally realising it's all true, but at the same time trying to hold back that emotion
this is literally what I thought, I heard it at time stamp 29:34 till 29:39 'you have been a great dad, and you HAVE BEEN the best grandfather" LIKE WHAT THE HELL, how can they just ignore these mistakes she made
That's a very weak piece of evidence though. People mess up words all the time. If one slip is enough to convict someone, then I don't know. They have collected a lot of other, much more convicting pieces of evidence though - like her emotional state, her pathological lying, etc.
Explaining this "proof" which most people have learnt from tv: If you know someone is dead, doesn't matter if you loved them dearly or hated them, it is a knee-jerk reaction to use past tense. If you only assume her missing you will keep using present tense, maybe not always but mostly.
I'm now also realizing that that slip plays exactly into her defense. She argued that the child drowned and that she didn't want to tell anyone. If that were true, she would have known she was dead at that point, so that's not even a piece of evidence against her.
I hope that the state did not drop this case... Forensic evidence can be found later on and she can still face the music of her actions. Either way she's going to burn in hell for what she did to that child....
This is fucking devastating how could a mother care so little about her own child. She should have just given her up to her parents since they cared more about the little girl than her
No father in the picture? Where is he. What if she despised her daughter because of this.. I dont trust her. Poor baby girl :( she is clearly guilty i am appalled shes set free. Fucked up system!
If Caylee Anthony (supposedly) drowned in a swimming pool: 1. why was she found buried somewhere else 2. why did she have duct tape on her mouth 3. why did her mother search “foolproof suffocation” 4. why did her mother act as if her child was missing 5. why did her mother not call an ambulance saying her daughter wasn’t breathing 6. why did her mother lie about her profession, her “friend”, and the babysitter whom never existed DOESNT ADD UP.
Kiki And that’s why the jury system is so dumb. People are dumb and can be outwitted by a suave, smooth talking lawyer. As happened in this case. And in ma y other cases (Cf Kit Martin trial).
1. the girl wasn´t buried 2. she didn´t have ductape on her mouth, she didn´t had a mouth at all when she was found, there was only a skull with ductape NEARBY 3. how do you know she did? The sad thing is that the police did a lot of mistakes. For example: A man found the body in august. The first time he reported it he was ignored. The second time the police conducted a "quick search" and wasn´t able to find the body. The third time he led the police to the body in DECEMBER. WTF As guilty as this women might look to a bystander. It was the police fault in handling the evidence and the attorneys just focusing on the obvious bad behaviour of the mother.
One of those insane cases where every person knows who the killer is but excuse the killer like the parents did. That's what u call a master manipulator.
@patty Patty cause the lawyer lied and said she been sexually molested by her dad since she was 8 so learnt to live a lie. Her father never looked at her the wrong way.
There's a lot of details that indicate her guilt and it's obvious she did it, but there was no hard evidence. They couldn't (and shouldn't) have made any other decision.
I always come back to something the medical examiner said. She’d been an ME in Florida for twenty years. Unfortunately, she’s seen her share of children who have died in drowning accidents. In all that time, however, she never encountered a case in which a parent did not call for help—even when the child had been dead for hours and even when the parent was guilty of neglect.
An addicted mother might let her child fall into the pool and drown while she’s high, but when she comes down and finds the child, she will still call 911. Not Casey Anthony.
@No Tact Scary that people like that exist. I was raised by someone who's in between a grandiose/covert narcissist who was a professional actress (I could see through the act but other people couldn't including: people in court, friends & family, people at church...basically anyone not that close to her.) She was a court reporter too so she knew how to work the system. I was kidnapped at 8 years old, never got to say goodbye to my mom, had no pictures of her for years so that I couldn't find her (I forgot what she looked like after a couple of years.)
Although I don’t buy it, he literally explained why it was kept a secret lol..
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No Tact2021-08-28 11:34:25 (edited 2021-08-28 11:35:03 )
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There's another documentary on true crime or something about this case the dad is giving the interview along with the mom and the dad refutes this accusation. If u feel up to it watch it and ul see
And they didn't put other charges like criminal negligence as she never reached out to doctors or police after her daughter "got drowned"...she just got a clean chit after murdering a freaking child.. This is outrageous!!
@barbara seymour George Zimmerman was guilty as hell, and he also walked away, I really do not understand these kind of people from Florida. I watched the Zimmerman trial, the not guilty was horrible.
i’m confused because in the last hearing casey’s attorney said ‘it will never be proven how caylee died’ but in the first hearing he said she drowned ??? why was that not questioned
There was duct tape wrapped around the head, stuck to hair. That's a sign you never intended to remove the tape. Also, the guy who found the body did not say anything when he first found it. He was waiting for a bigger reward or incentive.
@Michael S caylee was partially buried. roots from trees were growing into her vertebrae.
also, yes, there was duct tape found on her mouth and wrapped around her skull. casey was searching how to suffocate someone prior to caylee's disappearance. that is exactly how they found her daughters body. suffocated.
decomp in southern heat, in the woods, is subjected to heat, dry temperature amongst other things, but that doesn't mean her body lacked any evidence at all. this is especially due to the fact that caylees body was wrapped in two trash bags, a laundry bag, and finally in a blanket. caylee's body still had hair/scalp attached, and the duct tape was still hanging onto those areas. the autopsy reports that the duct tape was wrapped so tightly around her head multiple times that parts of her head didn't fully decompose which is why she still had fragments of hair. there is actually also photo evidence of the duct tape from her head. her body was found with duct tape wrapped around her lower facial region (mouth and nose) several times, obviously still attached by fragments of hair on the skull that did not fully decompose.
i'm not sure where you got that botched information from.
And why did she write in her diary that she knew she had "made the right decision" and is "the happiest she had been in a long time" when she knew her daughter was dead
That because she did kill her daughter asked yourself this if you were out partying enjoying yourself not think for one second that her daughter been missing for five days and decide to contact the police whatever that show she evil and she need to lock up or be on dead roll
@Ivan Andreev In Bulgaria you are guilty until proven innocent?? Are you sure? Bulgaria is part of EU and in all EU countries its "innocent until proven guilty" , like in the US.
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Ivan Andreev2021-09-03 11:49:50 (edited 2021-09-03 11:50:10 )
@IlFB forever yes, I am sure. I have a friend who got through a trial and I got this information first hand.
@Michael S this. What people dont understand that jury has to decide if someone's guilty BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. If police mishandles the case and the evidence, and the police shows 10 evidence against her, out of that 10, 5 was mishandled... thats not beyond reasonable doubt. Reasonable is to assume police was trying to set her up, too. If they "fucked up" so msny times it raises reasonable suspicion something fishy is going on... enough not to convict her even if i was 90% sure its her... 90% is not 100%.
@Ivan Andreev but youre wrong lmao. Bulgaria has to oblige to EU law or it would get kicked out, so on paper Bulgarian law applies the rule of innocence unril proven otherwise in their law; the problem in Bulgaria is, that the law and the reality is different. On paper its all nice and dandy, in reality even the general prosecutors say shit like "the accused has to prove his innocence in court" meaning they literally do not understand their own laws of their own country, and politicians and media alike use it dor their advantage, destroying political opponents with accusations only for the courts, prosecutors and judges to treat rhem like they're guilty before anything is proven in court, destroying one's career and reputation... and after he defends himself in court nobody cares anymore.
Its the same with rape accusations in US and western europe; once youre accused EVERYONE assumes your guilt, from the prosecutors, police officers handling you, prison mates, even your own friends and family, your comoany you worked for fires you to clear their name even tho there is no proof of guilt beyond a simple statement from a single person... and lets say 2 years pass snd no evidence is found, youre free to go to, well, nowhere as your whole city hstes you despite your innocence, your family still suspects you, you have no job and noone will hire yiu in your small town as everyone knows your name etc.
My point is, does that mean the law of innocence until proven otherwise doesnt exist to rape allegations in USA? No, that just means its not applied despite being the law... same in Bulgaria but its way more prevalent.
right! in that theory, why would she hide that her daughter drowned accidentally? she wouldn’t have gotten in trouble for that (maybe neglect, but likely nothing), and the ambulance could have gotten there in time to save her. but instead she risks getting in trouble for everything else? doesn’t make sense
@No Tact not 'beyond any doubt'. You left out the keyword: 'reasonable'. Very few murders are actually caught on tape. So the facts and evidence can be tied together into a story that makes sense.
@barbara seymour people aren't willing to recognize that the failure of this case was the lawyer, who made a shit tier argument, and the police who came to w series of conclusions without firm evidence.
More or less, why her car trunk smells decays? And she's free? Well, cause USA court system at best, not perfect. So that's it, we can't do anything about it further
She did killed her baby...there is a lot of things she did to get baby .. And told so many lied. Her attorney knows the truth to what an attorney even if he knows the truth his job is to save you the attorney
@Ivan Andreev Did they try tracking where the trash bags came from, where or who purchased them or where the sheets came from or who and where they were purchased.? Whose pool did she die in and if the mom was there, how did the child get from point A to point B? What became of the babysitter's story? How could they have believed the molestation of the father when the daughter is a pathological liar? Too many question points. Honestly, the jury got it totally wrong
I wonder if she's looking for work I need a babysitter.
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Kaiser 1292022-04-19 10:41:19 (edited 2022-04-19 11:14:29 )
This is my opinion. I believe Casey Anthony never cared about her daughter but that doesn't mean she murdered her. If she actually did murder the child then she would have immediately called the police and pretended to 'care'. That's what actual suspects would do, in order to avoid being called a suspect. That's what Chris Watts did after he killed his family, he went on TV and pretended to be the concerned father. That's what Jodi Arias did after she killed Travis. She immediately called 911.
But, why would she keep on giving false information then? She doesn't seem like a normal person at all, so it makes sense why she didn't act like the other murderers.
You're assuming she could think ahead of what might happen and prepare for situations in advance (i.e. people asking where her child is, her mother calling the cops to report Caylee missing, etc.). Some people just live minute to minute. Think of how she actually led the police around that studio where she didn't work. She didn't have a plan for how she would eventually need to admit that she didn't work there.
@Lydia At the least, Casey Anthony was a bad mom. She lied to the police to avoid being arrested for child neglect or being called a bad mom. It doesn’t mean she murdered the child. When the child went missing, she probably thought she’s free of responsibilities and can live her life. She probably thought whoever took the child, did her favor.
Mind you, I really dislike Casey Anthony but I don’t believe she’s a murderer. An actual murderer would cook up a story. Casey Anthony kept saying “she doesn’t know” what happened to her daughter.
Someone murdered the child but it isn’t Casey Anthony. That person got away with murder. I think it’s the nanny. The nanny changed her name and went into hiding.
@Kaiser 129 you obviously haven't followed the case completely. There was no nanny. Her defense attorney claimed the child drowned in the family pool. A woman with the same name as this fictional nanny sued Casey so no one went into hiding. You keep saying she would cook up a story if she was guilty and that's exactly what she did.
Detective: "Now Casey, who do you think has your daughter?"
Casey: "With all of my heart I believe it is Ombudsman Heinrich Von Cloogy-Cloppy. We met on the "Orient Express" train ride at Disneyland he's an impressive chap with a handle bar moustache and an antique pocket watch. He is given to flatulence and has a penchant for small talk with strangers, which I found suspicious. He has an abnormal gait when ambulating in cold weather environments and cups his hand behind his ear to hear better in high ambient noise areas or construction sites. He likes to repair Cox gas powered miniature airplanes as a hobby, and while he is right hand dominant, he uses his left hand to cut construction paper figures and letters. He is quite good at tying knots, so I believe he might have once been a sailor or in the riggers union. He prefers steak sauce on his cheese burgers, but oddly enough not on his steaks. He's the kind of guy who tips using a calculator, and traveled to Pamplona to run with the bulls at the Fiesta De San Fermin by himself."
Detective: "Is anything you just told us based in truth?"
It gets worse. Later reports that came out show that she changed her story whilst speaking with Prison psychiatrists and suggested that the Father abducted, raped and drowned Caylee. It just beggars belief how low a human can stoop.
@Daniel Dela Torre it's pretty clear that manipulative psycho had them all wrapped around her finger from day 1. She dropped out of school and they threw her a grad party and told everyone she was an honor student. They are under her control, not on her side. Big difference.
@Daniel Dela Torre yes the grandparents would of noticed this earlier,,the best friend girl too,, the mother went and smelled the trunk?? i dont think so,, someone else was probably ready to report her and the mother came up with the 911plan
@Wendy Sykes not true, she has a relationship with her mother and after her father's car crash in 2018 he said in an interview that she reached out to him and that he forgives her and wants to rekindle a relationship.
@Przemek Fiolkowski because psychopaths dont lie about everything? Damn, Ive always been wrong about everything. Who knew. Well, you, the youtube genius who comes with 0 arguements ofcourse.
@wildzwaan truth is often more unsettling then the lies told by a psychopath, so yah, scary. Want to know whats really scary? People thinking forgiving a child killer is a-oke!
@Harold Jenkins Psychopaths do have emotions they're just incapable of feeling empathy but they love pitying themselves and feeling bad they got caught. They don't feel anything for anybody else but themselves tho.
Phil Bolton i don’t think she came in like that I think her parents created it ..a freaking monster who never had to take any responsibility for any wrong doing 😒
Daniel Dela Torre I watched an interview with her parents a few yrs ago and they basically told the father the night before that they were going to throw him under the bus in an attempt to save the little murderer ...he was not happy , as you can see on his face as their reading the verdict...and didn’t talk to her for several years .
@wildzwaan hmmm, no. Psychopaths lie, thats what they do. Whether it be mundane things, big things, feelings or whatever, its an act. Its also genetically predispositioned, so theres that. I wont be manipulated into thinking otherwise ;)
@wildzwaan the "hmmm, no." Was your awnser. The father wants to rekindle the relationship with his daughter. So Im not mixing 2 things up, you just think he only forgave her.
Omg I know right?! I didn’t know all of the details when this happened. Wow this is wild, my favorite lie of hers is taking 2 detective to universal studio where she doesn’t even work there anymore then proceeded wondering the hallways like she was anticipating a magical office to appear that her name plaque on it
@Touhou music no, it isn't. She got lucky with a lawyer. He went on to win a lot of large cases. Good lawyer can make or break the case. He was really good, prosecution wasn't too good.
@testje aapiel no, it isn't a bad system. When your liberty depends on one person, that isn't a good system. Here, you have 12 strangers, your peers, judging you. I personally like it. Of course, it doesn't always work out but it's the best we have. If it was you on trial, you wouldn't want to be judged by a judge. So give her the same courtesy. The judges already rule completely with anything besides a trial (who goes to jail, who gets bail, how much time they get if they don't go to trial.. ) and there are judges that are known as soft and strict. Their personal prejudices and personality comes out and this is a horrible system. The judge that presided over Ashley McArthur case seemed like such a sweetheart, she also let a murder suspect on home arrest!! You'd think she's amazing. Until you read the comments from black people that know her as the worst judge ever. She locked everyone up, no bail, for bs cases, like shoplifting.
@Ната these lawyers will also probably burn on he ll too. When u can see thr evidence like the duck tape and the Internet searches on her computer about how to suffocate its all strong evidence that thr baby didn't just drown in a pool, she was murdered. How do layers like this sleep at night? When u r defending the literal devil u r destined for hel l. Simple. He is just as guilty of the crime.
@Ната I rather have 1 smart person who studied the laws, then 12 donkeys who didn't to decide for me. Its not just one person deciding the whole system is made in such way its not possible. prejuces? no the law simply wont allow for that.
Then there is several ways of appeal, and at the top there are 5 judges who can decide a lower court did not follow the law as they should and it can start all over again, ofcourse mistakes are being made, but in our system we dont have something like a plea deal, how manny innocent take the deal cuz then its 3 instaid of 15 years? and because they dont have money to fight with a proper lawyer?
We dont have political judges like they get appointed where you live. its the other way arround the politics try to interfere with the judges :P we have a trias politicas system in place.
World Justice Project, is a organisation who ranks the countrys on that matter, go have a looksy. we are ranked 5th in the world. stil not perfect, but were high up for a reason. (good chance more bad guys walk free this way, but rather have one bad guy free then 10 innocent in jail)
@testje aapiel yes, appeals and all. They exist with a jury system as well. I just gave you examples where judges personal preferences come into play. Plea deals are there when people are guilty, for the most part. Very rarely someone pleads out because they don't have money. They would get a free lawyer, by the way, if they wanted to go to trial. So, that's rarely the reason. Most of the time, they know they have no chance.
Well, she walked. What's your complaint? You say you'd rather have 10 guilty walk, the jury system did what you wanted
@Ната Not believing the devil and not wanting to hear about hell doesn’t stop either one from being real and true. The devil exists and hell is a real place. Both being the case whether you like it or not. And if you don’t wanna hear about that, I’m unfortunately sure that you don’t wanna hear about the solution and the only way to avoid going to that awful place.
@Black Suburban no one knows what exists and what's real. No one has ever come back from the dead, so for that reason alone, no one can know if hell exists. I said I'm not interested in any kind of discussions that lean into the bible. It bores me. Keep your religion to yourself. Not to mention, there might be people here that have a different religion. It's common courtesy.
@testje aapiel unfortunately, I know enough of the plea deal system. She had a free lawyer. He was a nobody before her but he turned out to be brilliant. Not just because of her case, he went on to win almost every large case he took on. The state paid for her defense. Maybe it's you that needs education. Free lawyer doesnt mean free, it means the state pays the lawyer. Even high paid lawyers fail in majority of the cases, money doesn't always matter. The jury, in my opinion, did the right thing. You have your opinion, I have mine. Yours doesn't weigh more than mine.
@testje aapiel yours is just an opinion as well. Facts are subject to interpretation, otherwise we wouldn't need trials. You have yours, I have mine. Neither weighs more than the other.
@Ната fact in Law the truth about events as opposed to interpretation.
Even this you couldv looked up. And to clarify, a trial is to distinguish fact from fiction. the interpretation is put on the laws ;) not on the facts.
@testje aapiel facts are interpreted as well, their meaning in certain context, how true a "fact" is. As an example. You're saying that it's a fact that she performed this search. I'm saying that it isn't a fact. The fact is that a search was performed on a computer (even that isn't a fact, since they messed up on the dates, number of searches, etc and with all that, I'd call all their findings into question) that she had access to. Who performed the search is up for debate. And this applies to every "fact" of the case. Fact isn't a fact until it's proven beyond a reasonable doubt. And that's why we have trials, among other things.
@Ната The defenition of a fact is very clear, there is no weighing to do... now your just adding more nonsense to talk yourself out of the hole youve dug. if something is not a fact we cannot call it a fact obviously. your logic is flawed. this is not my oppinion, youve just stated it yourself.
look up the definition of a fact in law... a trial is to find out the truth, facts dont change. either we can prove it and its a fact, else it remains a suspicion.
@testje aapiel omg lol. Get over yourself, you're giving yourself too much credit if you think you can make me feel like I'm in trouble. Fact is a fact, but, apparently, most people don't understand what it truly means. The example you gave is not a fact and I explained why. It is not a fact that she searched "foolproof" suffocation. So yes, among other things, at trial the jury gets to decide if a "fact" was proven by prosecution to be a fact. They claimed that it was a fact that Caylee was in the trunk, but they couldn't prove it. They claimed that casey searched "foolproof suffocation" but couldn't prove it. They claimed that casey killed Caylee but couldn't prove it.
So, whatever you want to call it, facts, proposals, suggestions, but prosecution presents their version at trial and the jury decides if they believe it. Of course, by applying the law. But a large part of their job is definitely to decide whether the prosecution's version makes sense. Prosecution doesn't present facts a lot of the time. It presents their interpretation of them.
Black people knew her as the worst judge ever? No, no, no, they just had bad lawyers. Remember? That's how you simply dismiss a claim of possible bias. Just assert that it doesn't exist and frame every individual case as an isolated incident. By the way, that good lawyer you were talking about, did he or she also represent black people at any point? If so, what were the results?
If you're going to believe one type of bias exists on the basis of multiple personal testimonies without looking at further context, yet dismiss another by introducing one piece of contextual evidence without further investigating the claim on a broader scale, you know you might be operating on a double standard.
By the way, those black people complaining about the judge being so harsh. Do you happen to know what their gender was? Also, I noticed the white person put on house arrest in your example just so happened to be a woman. Might that be a significant factor?
If you can look at the statistics and attribute overrepresentation of incarcerated black people as opposed to white people to systemic bias without looking into further detail and the overrepresentation of incarcerated men as opposed to women to numerous details while discarding bias even as a possibility, that's an indication there is something amiss. Perhaps, it is a bias? Depending on its prevalence, it might even be another systemic one. Who knows?
We live in a complex world. Biases most definitely exist. There is this idea floating around that biases towards some groups are simply impossible and this idea is in itself a deeply biased proposition.
Tbh everything is right on off records she looks guilty but judge can't make her guilty when there is no proof I mean the defendant only won because there was no damn proof against her and they already knew they would win if there was no proof they just needed a good talker.
@Rookie Videos I dont, thats why in a dialogue one should ask questions, wich im doing, the alternative is assumption and that the mother of all fuck ups.
Why are you making a problem out of this/nothing?
Something is not because of only bias's, life aint this black and white, its sure part of it, but its surely not the full picture.
And if your not into dialogue, why post under a youtube video at all? preaching the choir is pointless.
@testje aapiel from a Barrister who specialises in criminal law aka me: a trial is NOT to find out the truth. The purpose of a trial is for the prosecution to present their case to a jury and for 12 normal standard members of society to decide if, on the evidence presented both direct evidence and indirect evidence aka inference, the case presented has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. 12 members of society judge this because law in almost every country in the world is made and amended based on majority rule expectation of morality, not on one person's view of the law. Juriors tend to be extremely good at their job because they are not synical or over taxed by the repedative nature of the system given they will only be summond a few times in their lives, and understand the importance of their role given the system may also protect them or a loved one from a false allegation one day. A legal aid lawyer aka 'free lawyer' is no less qualified or able than a high priced lawyer. A lawyer can ask for any hourly rate they want without restriction, it does not mean they are any better. In fact those asking for high hourly rates are generally in firms with billing targets and who never touch actual trial work and routinely deal out cases because it earns them more money. Their focus is on their wallet and image. Whereas a legal aid lawyer takes less money because they believe in the system and providing everyone, regardless of their income, with legal representation. They will juggle more files, have much more on their feet time in court aka experience, and generally work harder with a focus on you rather than their wallet. This is an important lesson to learn in life on general. Higher price dies not mean better. Side note: if you wish to argue with people on the internet, I would suggest learning how to spell and construct sentences well enough to convey your point. At present, your arguments are easily dismissed as an uneducated point of view because of the lack of these two things. Level up.
That's why her lawyer said you needed to ignore the facts if you were upset because it showed bias. He knew decent people would be upset and played on that. Then if you went only by the facts you were obviously some kind of an unfeeling monster and biased. So 'Catch 22'.
@Rookie Videos i replied to you twice (same post, I didn't see the first one post, so I tried again) and for some reason, I'm not seeing either reply. Not sure whats happening but don't feel like rewriting, it was long :)
Yeah it's crazy how much the science of human behavior is ignored or not understood enough or explained well enough to a jury for them to convict on it. I would suspect most jurors would rather vote to convict based on physical evidence so there is less chance of getting it wrong. I mean, you have to think as a juror you have a gut feeling but you are told repeatedly to ignore it and examine evidence and then be totally certain when you decide, when in fact no one is ever certain of the facts they are all making educated guesses as to what happened based on the evidence presented but also the stories told by the prosecutor and defense. Stories are powerful and you never know how power dynamics within a jury may have been with perhaps one or two strong personalities influencing the rest of the jurors.
@Rookie Videos found my post on clipboard, trying again
im sure they had bad lawyers, so did this woman, she was found guilty. But in her case it probably wouldn't have mattered, too much evidence. Though who knows, maybe baez could've gotten her off. My example of a good lawyer was baez. He turned out to be brilliant and went on to prove it over and over. I don't know about black people but he got Aaron Hernández off. Not black, Hispanic. But same prejudices apply, prisons are full of blacks and Hispanics.
I dont know the gender but the gender didn't play a part here I'm sure. The judge was an attention whore, the way she was sucking up to the jury was just straight up inappropriate and she loved being on TV. Watch a few videos of that trial, it's obvious right away. But the lawyer don't matter here, locking someone up for shoplifting, pettit larceny, drug use and letting someone go on house arrest for murder? This is a clear-cut case of a judge letting her personal preferences come into her judging.
No system is perfect but I wouldn't want to depend on 1 person judging my fate. That's my opinion, you have yours. I feel like there's a better chance for justice with a jury.
Who said that biases towards some groups are impossible? Biases are everywhere. We are trained to think in stereotypes from childhood.
@sfairraid 13 yes, good point. So many issues in the family and baez was smart enough to play on them. Also he was more personable to the jury and that definitely makes a difference. Where the prosecutor is in a different class, than the jury and it came through in his behavior. Things like these shouldn't play a role (which lawyer you like, etc) but we are all people and we are affected by our preferences, sympathies... I was on a jury once for a drug dealer. He was the usual guy, with dreads, violent looking, etc, not a person you would like. But he got lucky with this very nice, white lawyer who was also very charming, just a nice personality guy. And I found myself wanting to believe whatever he said. The defendant then made the dumbest mistake half trial, fired him and represented himself. Guilty. But just goes to show you how much things like personal sympathies matter and they go both ways, obviously. You can like the defense and dislike the prosecution. And I think this is what happened here and it played a role as well. And him laughing when baez was doing the closing probably also played a large part in this. So unprofessional, inappropriate, disrespectful and arrogant. This really didn't do him any favors. To sum it up, prosecution messed up and she got lucky with a really good lawyer.
@sfairraid 13 I personally found Baez really annoying at trial, he's not my type of a person but I have to give it to him, he proved everyone wrong. And somehow was able to get the jury to like him. This was q fascinating case, I followed it almost from the beginning. I was 100% sure she would be found guilty, I mean, really, look at everything she did, all the lies, etc. And was dumbfounded when she was found not guilty. Then I hear the jury's points, then I watched some documentaries, thought about it and realized that I really don't know how she killed her daughter. And if she did (maybe it really was an accident). And I found defense's explanation on why she didn't tell anyone to be credible. She was definitely fucked in the head, there were definitely issues in the family (hiding the pregnancy, her not graduating, etc) and believed that it was possible that hiding things became her way of life. She has a lot of issues, for sure, and as crazy as it seemed at first that someone can lie so much, I found his explanation to make sense. On the murder, I had a few theories, like everyone else but we cannot convict on theories, as much as people here want to crucify her. I wish we knew what really happened but I doubt we ever will.
@Ната you’re actually entirely wrong on the only guilty people take a plea deal thing. Droves of innocent people, especially POC, are persuaded into taking plea deals by both law enforcement and shitty paid public defenders who basically have no time for each case they have because they know that it’s unlikely that person is going to get a fair judgement or hearing. Many innocent people who have later been exonerated state that they were basically told you’re either going to get 30+ years in prison/a death sentence with almost full certainty or you can take this less than 10 year plea deal. When it’s your life on the line, you accept the plea deal because that’s human nature - to survive.
@ALi but the prosecution fucked up those google searches badly. They got the dates, times and numbers all wrong which already made it sketchy and they didn’t have any direct evidence it was her - it was done on a computer that a multitude of people had access to and they couldn’t prove otherwise. Moreover, a google search doesn’t directly equate to a crime. I’m an over thinker and have adhd so if a thought pops into my head, I have to google it; as a result, I’m probably on some watch lists lol but that doesn’t mean if a bomb goes off, I’m the bomber because a tv show made me question if the mechanics of what they were doing were real and google it. I 100% believe that she is guilty and it’s a travesty that she got away with it but these things are complicated. It’s hard to separate entirely provable facts that have direct evidence that are proven beyond doubt vs probable “facts” aka speculations that don’t have proper evidence. It makes things murky and confusing and all you need is a good lawyer like hers, to prey on that confusion and take full advantage of it.
@Drago I said most of the time. Not all the time. There will obviously be exceptions to every rule. But most of the time, people take it because they have no chance of winning a trial: they were caught redhanded. If people want to go to trial - they can choose a lawyer, more than 1, if needed and the state will pay for it. You do know that Casey's defense was paid for by the state, right?
I'll have a look at that trial. Is it up on Youtube somewhere? I'll take your word for it that there's a bias there, it can be very disturbing to see, especially if it's clear.
Glad you found your thoughtful reply back on your clipboard. My point of contention wasn't with the judge or jury question. I believe there's advantages and disadvantages to both methods.
What I found interesting was your reply to someone saying - albeit crudely - "female privilege". You dismissed this notion and it's implications.
Now, I don't think this term is very helpful, because I don't like collectivist ideas so much, but I do believe there's a bias against men in court.
I wonder what your ideas are about that. Could you explain for instance how you're sure gender didn't play a role? What is it that convinces you of that?
Considering that you find it noteworthy to mention that the majority of people in prison are Hispanic or black (in the US) as an indication of prejudice - which I don't dispute - then howcome you don't find it equally noteworthy that most people in jail are male? Do you think there could be a bias there or do you think there's different explanations?
No evidence so normally that would nean no conviction but they convicted manson over drug addict/murderers testimony with no evidence and he wasn't even at the crime scene and he died in jail. It makes no sense
She won’t go free. God will judge everyone, including her. NO ONE ever gets away with anything even if they think they do. People like OJ and Casey are deluding themselves if they think they really are going to get away with these crimes when they face God. Ecclesiastes 8:11 Because the sentence against an evil deed is not executed speedily, the heart of the children of man is fully set to do evil.
@Austin Sellers //denica, very not smart u are not...// Huh? That is a pretty incomprehensible insult if it is meant as an insult. If she is NOT very NOT smart then I guess she is smart....
@James Hammond //Partying and tattooos have what to do with murder?// If you have to ask, you are pretty clueless. Just ask any real mother whose child was supposedly kidnapped if they would have been doing any of those things. The contrast between the grandmother’s reaction when she first learned her granddaughter had been kidnapped and missing for a month and Casey’s complete lack of concern and self-centered behavior could not be more indicative of guilt.
I know this is so embarrassing or the whole system what a joke her lawyer was really good but it was so obvious she was guilty I can’t imagine how that jury didn’t see through the bullshit
@Austin Sellers Okay, so you added another negative to make it a triple negative. But you still didn’t explain what your actual issue is with what she said, and this is still an unjustified insult. If you think what she said is incorrect, then educate her. Don’t insult her. Otherwise you just prove yourself the one that is not not not very smart.
Let's be honest we all know she's guilty. She murdered her daughter in cold blood, the fact that she got off with only 4 counts of giving false information to a law enforcement officer during a murder trial is obsolutely horrid.
@Fred D. then i found out the judge didn't give specific instructions for the jury not to try to figure out how she died,but to know caylee died from a homicide, and was casey the one who did it. so the fact they couldn't prove exactly how she died they somehow found her innocent because baez hammered in that 'reasonable doubt'.
I've always thought her daughter died from over dosing on the xanax that Casey was giving her so that she would stay asleep while she partied. Does that classify as murdering someone in cold blood? I dont think she actually meant to over dose her but it happened, and she hid the body in the trunk of her car. Maybe its from this video, theres an interview with a guy that went on a date with her before Caylee was dead. He said they went in to a restaraunt and ate and left Caylee in the car because she was "passed out" so hard.
@Atlantis IRL That would still be murder but not in the 1st degree. And no thats not what happened. The defenses official story was that she drowned in a pool by accident.
I don't know if there is enough evidence to say she murdered her in cold blood. I think what's very possible is she was neglecting her daughter to party, and the daughter died from neglect because she wasn't being watched, maybe got her hands on some pills and overdosed, maybe just got hurt while Casey was high etc. I think an issue with her not serving time is that she was "overcharged" when there was not enough evidence for the specific charges. Saying "but she's suspicious af" is not enough evidence for a court if you have good lawyers. She could have been charged with child neglect, and then had they been proven the neglect lead to her child's death, she would be serving time.
@αɴαнαтα love wait, what?!? The judge said they couldn’t let them know she was suffocated?!? Well that changes things drastically! The most damning (imo) piece of evidence is her googling how to suffocate someone the day her daughter went missing, but that wouldn’t mean much if I didn’t know she died of suffocation!
How is it not against the law to say in your opening statement that the child died while drowning. But in the closing statement says that we could never know what happened to the child. Are We(the jurors) really that dumb?
@Josh Willes I believe he was saying that because the drowning part is also an unproven story. This is exactly the game he wanted to play, creating enough confusion that the jury would not be able to find her guilty.
@Josh Willes Prosecutor opening statements are not an explanation of just the facts per say, they are for the prosecutor to paint the overall picture of the crime they believe occurred. They take the facts and add in speculative details, like how exactly Caylee died when it wasn’t proven, to try to tell the whole story.
Josh Willes because that’s the story they are going with. at the end they say it can’t be proven either way, but casey’s testimony/whatever is that the child drownef
Did she forget that orphanages exist. She didn't just want her kid gone, she wanted to take a life. If she didn't want the kid, no one else could either.
Was she not guilty for all of her charges?? Did she not go to jail im confused it literally seems like she got rid of her baby so she could live the party life like wtf why not just give the baby to her parents
“You see, my child drowned in the pool, duct taped her own mouth and nose, and after she died, I decided to dump her body in a swamp. Also my car smelling like a corpse and my google searches of how to best suffocate children are totally unrelated. During this time I was out partying and didn’t report anything. Also I didn’t tell my parents she was rotting in a swamp, but honestly I swear I’m innocent.”
I was skeptical about this case. A) the family were pure psychos with bizarre lying problems, to the extent that they all kept up the appearance that she had a job B) the duct tape was on and mear the body, but thats no evidence that it was related to the death, could have been from hiding of the body and C) all the stuff about premeditated murder and a motive isn't that convicing on its own. The single largest piece of evidence is the one that jurors didn't get - the intermet searches for suffocation methods on the last day the poor baby was seen alive.
@Rashid she told her parents that when she was leaving the house, she was going to work. it makes sense that they'd believe her. it's not like you show up at your daughters work every day to see if shes actually there.
Having been on a couple of juries - I can tell you anyone can get off no matter how strong the evidence. They dont listen to facts it hinges on powerful personalities in the jury steamrolling others and emotional cues by sleazy lawyers. So if you are ever charged just go for jury trial you will be batting 50/50 no matter what
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@Tony Miller facts. If I'm ever arrested for anything instead of a lawyer I'm hiring an actor. They want a show... I'll give them the best damn show ever.
If you google the case you will actually find that there’s more than one juror who says they wish they’d made a different decision and at least found her guilty on one of the lesser charges. They actually all agreed that she was a terrible human being. One says the whole thing haunts him to this day and he thinks about it at least once a day. Imagine having to live like that...
@annabanananaaaa that’s tough they really should’ve looked at the facts and thought it through. Not be swayed by some con man in a suit. The internet searches and the car smelling like rotten flesh seem pretty obvious.
@Scrappy “I’ll fold yo ass” Doo you can't, that would be double jeopardy, you can't be tried multiple times for the same offense if you were previously found not guilty.
“Also I told the detectives all fake names when they asked me who my daughter was with and completely fabricated all the details of her whereabouts” Jury: sounds about right
@annabanananaaaa Honestly I have a hard time feeling bad for them. If even just one of them looked at the facts and weren't swayed by the defenses insane manipulative tactics this would have went to mistrial. The fact not one of them thought after all the fucking evidence that this was at the very least an accessory to murder is truly horrific. YOU CANT HIDE YOUR CHILDS DEAD BODY(no shit she killed her) FOR OVER A MONTH LIE TO EVERYONE TRYING TO HELP THEN GET OFF WITH A SLAP ON THE WRIST. Fucking worthless people in that jury taught a lesson to everyone if you sway niave jurors you can get away with anything no matter the evidence. Just like oj haha
@Rashid arent investigators in America not allowed to call for a retrial when evidence like that comes up? Because that sounds like damning evidence in my country that would call for a retrial
@Tony Miller As a German I wonder why you do have this kind of trial? I mean I could get how it was used bakc in the veeeerrry old days where the whole neighbourhood or village decided upon one's fate, but now? Sorry to say that, but as a German this is completely ridicolous to me....
@Kubomi I think double Jeporady is used when somebody has already been found guilty and served a punishment, so they can’t be found guilty again. I would imagine if more evidence came up she could be re-tried.
@Dickinson Jay no it's written into the 5th amendment that you cannot stand trial or face punishment twice for the same crime by the same jurisdiction, so unfortunately she is free for life unless she does something else.
She got away with it on pure technicality. The jury couldn't convict based on instructions to the jury, given by the judge, at the behest of the prosecution.
It didn't help that she decided to run the three ring defense 😕
Unfortunately common sense and emotions aren't necessitated in the law.
@Ma Ne Thats a very German response and youre right a judge would do a much better job than the average jury, The principle is you are judged by your peers who have their own opinions and biases. And often it is completely crazy - OJ trial and many many others. I guess its part of old english common law going back to village days. I served once on a rape case and of the 11 jurors - 6 or so were women and they were the ones voting not guilty to a guy that basically admitted it in his police statement. whereas the guys were saying guilty .In the end the majority steamrolled the minority and people wanted to get out for lunch despite this 19 year old future in the balance. We were also considering his punishment which wasnt our job. Most of us wanted him punished but not to the extent of the 7 years he would get and come out a real criminal by the age of 26. The verdict was not guilty the victim burst into tears I went back to work and the older women there wanted to string me up.
@Lonr and while I wouldnt be surprised that it was true because women like her all have the same back stories unfortunately, it never truly had anything to do with the case, completely irrelevant. Everything Baez claimed the prosecution was trying to do to manipulate them, was always what he was trying to do. Ill give him credit, he was slick. I never bought in, was outraged she was let out. And it would later come out, Baez was sleeping with Casey... alledgedly. Pro-Bono iirc, and Vested interest by the end.
Casey is definitely guilty! Come on karma, do your job and get this horrible woman for what she did to that poor innocent child! Damnit I'm so angry when the justice system fails like this!! 😡
People on these comments totally ignore the fact that she’s a free person walking,it’s pretty dumb and I’m glad I’m not Canadian this is a joke of a sentence
To be honest, I really don't know if she murdered Caylee or not, no one does. However, I really do believe she was involved in her death. I believe she accidentally killed her and she couldn't handle the fact that everyone would view her as a terrible mother so she did what she has always done. Lie. I think she realized that, in her mind at least, without Caylee, her life was stress free. She had the freedom to do whatever she wanted without the responsibility of being a mother. I do think she is a terrible person though, with or without the death of her child. I just thought it was odd that she kept calling the babysitter "Xanny" at some points, and that's what a lot of people refer to Xanax. I think she gave her daughter Xanax at times to get her to sleep whether as to not deal with her, or to go out and party. Maybe she gave her too much at one point and Caylee passed away from an overdose. This is just my theory because things like that happen way more often than people think. I really do not know if they did a toxicology report on Caylee and found anything, if they even had the ability to do a toxicology test in the state they found her in! I just thought it was very strange that she referred to the babysitter as "Xanny". Regardless, she is a terrible mother and that is made extremely apparent.
I kept thinking about her poor heartbroken parents. Sure, they protected her from the consequences of her pathological lying when she was in school and some of the blame for this monster is squarely in their corner...but they loved little Caylee with all their hearts and to fear that their daughter perhaps did something terrible to her must have been agony. And lets face it: some parents do everything right, raising a child with patience and love but also discipline...and still end up with a monster. Whatever
Yawa! But no smoke can be kept forever. I still have faith that the truth will prevail. Karma is a bitch. God will find a way that the perpetrator will suffer. Maybe not in prison, but in life. I'm sorry little angel. May your soul rest in eternal peace. 😇🙏🙏🙏
She killed her . I just don't believe this at all . Why would a car smell like a dead body come on . Yes this lawyer was good probably cause her dad is a cop and hired the best lawyer cause he's a push over for his savage disgusting daughter. Unreal this should have never went down like this she should be in jail .
even her friend Christina started crying about the possibility of what happened to the baby girl. and this monster says "what a waste talking to you" what a horrible horrible woman!!
I totally agree. She is so fucking guilty. How can she be laughing and smiling. Notice she talked about Caylee in the past tense a few times. She never even asked her parents if there was any new developments or breaks in the case. Pathological liar. Stunned she got away with this
@azsuter we aren’t coaxing a jury here. She was already let off. She literally made up a nanny that doesn’t exit and led police on a wild goose chase with false stories of where she worked and where she was. All while her daughter was missing for over a month by that time. Even if she isn’t guilty of her murder first hand. She is NOT innocent. Even the jury who tried her found her guilty of lying to investigators.
@TheFantabulousJackson Damn, thats what I was afraid of. Ok. Watched whole trial plus all raw footage with no commentary 3 times (some part more, total 200 hours plus easily). First time just interested and concentrated on evidence. non-conclusive. Second time concentrated on behavioural/psychological patterns. And it clicked. Third time to unclick what I seen, but it couldnt unclick. what I seen... Whole family were pathological liars with 3 strongest distinctive "masks" to cover the true. Casey wore a mask of Protector, her mum wore mask of IDontWannaKnow and daddy wore a mask of Hater. Strenghts of this masks (or u can call it hiding the true from outside world) were developed over the years before even Casey had her daughter. Daddy was control freak in "need of attention/control" and wanted be in charge of family. Little child broke this, and I dont know what happened exactly, but he hated this situation. He did sth that was a kill or "not helping person falling down the cliff" thing with the child. Casey always protected her mother from this type of abuse (before childs birth) over the years (mother never wanted to face the true and had amnesia type love for her husband). Anyway Casey developed strong lying abilities and she even protected her father even though she knew he took away the only thing she had pure and innocent. I cant tell u exact event, that would be speculation (even though I have one), but this is basic profile of the case. If he was ever tried a true would have chance to come out... sorry
@Robert Xerxes so do you think that she didn't kill her kid or that she did? I'm sorry after this I won't ask anymore (your quite the respectable person).
@Robert Xerxes also no matter how much evidence that you give, I just can't shake how suspicious it is that the day of her child's disappearance her search history was how to suffocate someone. also the diary that stated she was happy with the decision she made and how she hoped her happiness would continue. I also don't understand in the slightest how she went 31 days without saying anything and then pathologically made up people and jobs that she once had but when she was confronted with the truth it all fell apart and she still got off the hook with nearly no questions. I honestly would like to believe that she didn't but I just can't.
@TheFantabulousJackson This "masks" were super strong. You can do it through very strong trauma only, but its possible. These masks drop here and there during a trial, for few minutes or even seconds throughout hours of footage. Its rare but u can see, especiallly who is Casey and who is her Daddy. Her Mum basically wore amnesia mask. Evidence was non-conclusive enuff for court and for me too (and remember prosecutors were really after Casey). Plus u know Daddy had experience in law enforcement. But as I said evidence didnt convince me either way. Behavioral patterns did (masks and their occasional drop off is a key here)
@Robert Xerxes alright well I am impressed by you and even though I still think she did it, it was a pleasure talking to you. Have a great day or night.
@TheFantabulousJackson Thanks. I also watched whole trial of Jodi. She also wore mask, but behind it was stone cold killer. Full extent of what we could find behind Daddy mask could only be highlightened if he was ever tried in court, but he was not. And Im from Poland so my day just starts. Have a good day/night too
Just goes to show, evil and selfishness comes in all shapes and sizes. Ignorance, deniability, lying to the authorities again and again and all around behavior void of traits of motherhood and humanity.
surprised that this video doesnt talk about how casey's own parents are of the belief that the babysitter zaneida "zanny" was actually just casey giving Caylee xanax and making her pass out so casey wouldnt have to watch her
And Casey's dad firmly believes that she died after her mom gave her a pill. he's such a smart man and it is so shameful that she would say anything bad against him
@Gaetano the parents were huge enablers who were willing to let her hurt others and herself and cover it up to look good. Look at her history before the killling which he talks about in this video.
@K D didn't happen. Watch the interview her parents gave. None of this was said and they look like they are truly believable. If that was the case the dad would still be speaking to her. He's even called her a failed child and does not want to speak to her
@Lonely Wanderer though abusing it makes your resistant to it so your own body production becomes insufficient. Hormone uses should always be used with care
@Rdwrer I wanna say it was Ben Franklin but I'll have to double-check that one. I agree with you. This is why we wouldn't be picked for jury duty, lol.
@emma I remember feeling extremely disturbed after hearing the verdict. Even more disturbed when she got offered to star in various porn movies. People can be monsters.
It's a child what are they going to do? Children can't do pretty much anything against adults. Most children can't even have a proper argument with an adult without them saying "I'm older and know better" in an argument against a child. I feel like if adults have to say no they know better then they know they are going to lose the argument.
They are monsters, not people. I knew a girl who went to school with one that gave birth and suffocated her baby at home. Went to school pretending it never happened.
@Don Gamer Guy I'm sorry to disappoint you but monsters don't exist. These are humans. They breath, eat, sleep and go to work - just like you. There are your neighbours, co - workers, brothers, sisters, parents ect. Only humans do stuff like this
@aneriアネリ I could never find the exact news report of hers. I remember reading it, but can't find it. The worst part is everytime I search for it, I find others. Hers may have gone under the radar because she could've been diagnosed with something. I have no idea.
Another thing is I didn’t see that mother shed a single tear for her daughter. Even with that visit with her parents she didn’t show any signs of emotion when she saw her daughters face on that shirt. She cried only when the pressure of the situation was put on her parents.
Like it's such a shock. The police can't even manage to remove children from abusive homes or place them with the safe parent. Or in a decent foster home. It's funny to me how the same system that tries to force the idea of having children (and disregard child free options) is the same system that lets thousands of children die at the hands of people who shouldn't be parents.
@怠惰な耳の長いフクロウ Actually, the animal kingdom is far worse. Have you ever seen a lioness eat her own babies immediately after popping them out? This is just a harsh reality for any living being.
@David Shaw exactly all it boils down to is people choosing their own selfish wants over being responsible for a life that they can even choose to give to adoption instead of killing them and they can just forget about the kid if they want after that and they wouldn't have to take a life. It's just the inconvenience cuz she and maybe the boyfriend or whoever too just wants to party.
@curious Jorge *murdering the unborn thing that some people are brainwashed into being in denial of because they are selfish or relate to selfish mothers and would want to do it themselves if they were pregnant
@curious Jorge did you know that also in just about every abortion they do it in a stage that is insanely painful for the unborn child who has his or her own soul and own brain and heart and dna, and the methods include poisoning them so they die twitching from nerve damage as it gets progressively more and more painful because they are being burned alive from the inside, and cutting them limb by limb as they bleed to death, finishing by crushing the skull?
agreed! I was puking and crying my eyes out after my furboy decided to run off on an adventure. (he was found) She was WAY to calm in the videos. I've been locked up, sucks ass !Anyway, GUILTY!!!!!!!
@GøD I haven’t finished the video but have grown up in Orlando. I’m pretty sure because there was no solid evidence that proved she was the one to kill her daughter.
Yeah I agree they should have at least got her on child neglect or perjury for lying to the police. Like common guys (police/prosecutors). It's sad that they didn't have enough evident to convict her but don't let her go free.😣
@haymaker 49 yeah I just feel so sad for the daughter. She was so young and didn't even live life. But the mother has the audacity to go out to party with her friends and boyfriend after her daughter "went missing". Smh disgusting.
It still makes me mad every time I think about it. Florida is the absolute worst state in America for a lot of reasons. This is just one of them. George Zimmerman and Casey Anthony. They don't mind letting child killers roam free.
@Pilot The jurry found her innocent- Due to double jeopardy law, we cant charge her with the same crime so if she starts to talk about how she got away with it we can't do anything.
I don't understand how they couldn't disprove the child didn't drown. Wouldn't the autoposy show a difference between drowning and dying from tape over the mouth. Also how could the jury ignore her search history, you don't googe suffocation then your child dies from drowning. It's crazy.
@Funny Lady "She really is not free" Uh not being inside a prison for taking your child's life is free..........................................................
The fact that she got away just proves how wrong the american system is and how disgusting a lawyer can be. He said she was innocent like he believed in it. But I know that EVERYONE that watches this video can only determine that she's guilty af. Poor little thing would be 16 years old. I am not religious so i don't know if there's an after life. But those of you who believe in it I just ask you to pray for her soul. Rest in peace Caylee. Born without a father and died by her mother's hands.
i think the first thing that caught my attention with her is she like seemed to know every little detail of these people she would talk about. like how do you know she's always used both last names ever since her mom remarried like what? how do you know where and how long each of her family members have lived? like it's this crazy level of specific detail that almost no one would ever know about co-workers or people they employ. it very much feels like the same as when someone writing a story is doing a rough draft of quick facts about a character.
i noticed that too. like in the beginning, it makes no sense that she would share that information when you look at the urgency of the situation bc it was practically pointless.
@LuxLoose for real, it is literally appalling to me that these people voted her not guilty after all the damn manipulation she did. And you trying to tell me that couldn’t catch her lying once in court after all of the damn lies she told previously?
She would study every little detail posible about her lies so that she could make it seem credible , making it seem like she actually knew these people and places , she had every answer already memorized , it’s common on people who lie a lot to over-explain things while lying
There's a specific spot she gives away her story telling technique. He asks what race the babysitter was, she says mixed, black and (pauses) Puerto Rican. She pauses because she's in real time telling a story and knows the perception of saying Mexican, would be "that's what people make up." So she jumps to something less common and therefor more believe in her eyes. We only know this because of hindsight but in real time that's a scary mf talent to have.
Good point. And I don't think the cops were fooled. But like they said, most people got sucked in because she could do it so fluently. Entire stories and details just flowed out of her without stuttering or hesitation. Only a psycho could do that.
@TheShibaFather thing is, I only know of people in Mexico, central and south America who do the 2 last name thing. I live in a predominantly Puerto Rican neighborhood and don't know a single one who does the 2 last name thing. but hey, I could be wrong
@Austin Shooness she never testified in court. There was very little evidence of any real value. I think the jury was right to give a not guilty verdict. It wasn't like 11/1 guilty to not guilty either, there were 10 people that thought she was not guilty as soon as deliberations started.
@Red agreed! Although she seems like a cold hearted mum along with being a efficient liar..the state failed to prove that she killed her child with solid evidence...so it was really easy for the defence to make her to found not guilty...man but she is scary.
@Austin Shooness unfortunately the prosecution failed miserably at proving beyond reasonable doubt that she did it. They had very little physical evidence most was circumstantial. Which can be easy to rip to shreds and input enough doubt. I’m honestly impressed with the jury for remaining impartial and actually keeping emotion out of it and looking at only facts and the facts didn’t paint a clear portrait of who did. The fact paired a fuzzy picture that resembled Casey. It’s unfortunate that little Caylee got no justice.
i have a friend who is a pathological liar, who lies about every stupid little thing all the time, and makes up ridiculous unimportant details like that all the time. luckily she's not also a psychopathic killer, but still....the behavior casey portrays here is like identical.
Same. I was like, who knows your coworkers middle names? That poor guy that quit work in 2002. Imagine getting pulled I to a national kidnapping case and them asking you to contact your previous nanny for your non existent children. What the actual fuck?
The fact that her lawyers persuaded the jury to rule by emotions instead of the blatant evidence was so disgusting and then at the end calling the other lawyers disgusting for doing their job for trying to get Caylee some justice. Ugh gross
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Zen Solipsist2022-03-18 14:50:27 (edited 2022-03-18 14:53:35 )
As a father, I couldn’t imagine firing all pistons to find my son, like if he gets lost in a store, I panic and none of that is here. I especially couldn’t imagine lying to investigators to find him. After seeing so many interrogation videos, she’s obviously deceptive and it makes me want to scream
@King Bee What are you even trying to say here? Like, leaving aside how ridiculous that claim is have you never heard of adoption? DNA is not a prerequisite for parenthood.
@King Bee Wow, someones got some massive projection issues going on here. Most people dont need dna tests to know their children are their children. Sounds like you got some issues bruh.
The oddest thing was in court she immediately stopped crying when she heard she was going free. What I learned from this case is these ppl, her and her parents didn't deserve this little girl. She was taken away forever. Saved from much worse. They'll never see her again. That's a relief to me. This and the Watts case. They are free.
What is crazy to me is she did not call the cops about her daughter being missing but could call the cops on someone who spilled a drink on her at the bar in a heartbeat 🙄
I don’t know if I’m reading too deep into this but at 29:48 when Casey tells her parents, “Caylee’s been so lucky” her mom looks so heartbroken, almost as if her wording it that way was confirmation that Caylee was gone. It’s so fucking sad.
i caught that too, it's hard to tell what the mum's truly thinking when she talks to Casey though, because she's threading the line of trying to extract information
Ya same she grabs her mouth her whole face collapsed when casey says "has been" Casey seeing this changes it to "still is" but you can see the mother knows now
@Dreamk The only thing about that is that her mom wasn't on the phone to actually hear what the monster said.
It's obvious to anyone that she is the cause of her daughter's death, whether directly or indirectly through neglect, and that was 100% a Freudian slip. But her mother didn't hear that slip when she "reacted".
The victim was Caylee, a small innocent child who was suffocated to death. The daughter of a not guilty irresponsible mother. The law system in America is unfair. These lawyers who defend people like Casey need to find a new job. This makes me mad and sad.
Good Lord, the amount of dread I felt after this video made me nauseous . How could the jury come to that decision?! With all the evidence given She should’ve at least gotten Child neglect! Especially under the circumstances not telling anybody that your daughter has been dead for a month should be damning in of itself, With the girls corpse had tape on her mouth!Even if what the defense said was true and Caylee drowned in the pool by accident then Why did Casey hide the body and put duct tape over her mouth?! The jury was missing so many brain cells. Casey Anthony is a menace to society as a whole now people like her know that they can get away with whatever they want
she killed caylee no doubt, waited that long to report her missing so she’d make sure her body would be so decomposed that if there was any slight pieces of her DNA on caylee that it would be gone. so twisted.
I can't believe this trial ended up this way! What about all the lies she told and the lack of remorse? Isn't that suspicious enough? What about the pics of her while her daughter was disappeared? I think Justice is an illusion, people. A waste of time
The fact that i am a 15 year old child and know that she was the main reason for her daughters death is telling. I could list a 100 and 1 reasons as to why she's guilty . This was one of the dumbest videos i have ever saw in my life, justice was not served one bit.
When this case was happening I was only a teen and didn’t understand how strange she acted after her daughter was gone. Now being a mom I’m fucking disgusted at her behavior. I wouldn’t be able to live without my child. I wouldn’t be able to breath air or eat knowing my baby was gone. She’s fucking scary and a monster. RIP sweet Kayley 👼🏼🕊
I love how she's trying to act like she's just having a casual conversation with acquaintances and not wearing handcuffs while talking to detectives about her missing child in a police station. 🙄🙈😂
That was truly disgusting to see a case of murder in vein and self-interest laid in front of you and, though I'm not blaming the law enforcement and those that handled the case, to see those who could have done something be tricked. I'm against death-penalty personally, but still, I would have liked to see her own up to her actions and receive some sort of federal punishment. I know that through a video such as this one simply floating around on YouTube with the same goal as them all: To Please and Entice Viewers, it is possible that some of the FACT is really Fabricated Actually inCase you were wondering Tacos. So I guess it would be more 100% accurate for me to place this into more of a fictional point of view. But even then it feels kind of wrong because this is a REAL case, REAL people were hurt and REAL people are responsible and in this case REAL people were not held responsible. To end this paragraph of contradiction and confusion, all I have to say is wherever Caylee exists, whether there is a heaven sort of place or if it is only in the hearts of people who knew her like her grandparents, I hope she rests peacefully.
And to the jury… The fact that she got a tattoo that says “Sweet life” DURING the time her child is MISSING???? And you people can’t see ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT???? Along with all the other obvious facts in this case???? Y’all sucked that up BIG TIME!
JCS is brilliant. I hope they can keep posting. I'm a writer and working on a story involving a woman who kills her daughter. The insight I've gotten from JCS is invaluable.
I think what is bothering people and me included is that criminal charges are not solved with a balance of evidence from both parties, it is not about whose evidence is more convincing. The defendant is either guilty or innocent and she is presumed innocent until the prosecutor can meet the burden of proof that basically has to be facts pointing that the defendant is guilty without any reasonable doubts. Basically, imagine a balance scale, and we think that both sides of the scale should be at the same level at the beginning before any evidence is presented, and whoever presents more convincing evidence that can weigh the scale more wins, but it is actually not. The defendant's side of the scale is weighted down by presumed innocent while there is nothing on the prosecutor's side of the scale and the prosecutor needs to provide evidence that is factual and directly pointing to the defendant being guilty and then the scale would be shifted. If the prosecutor's evidence isn't enough this happens, and the moment the prosecutor succeeds in shifting that scale is when the defendant needs to bring out the evidence to shift the scale back or raise any reasonable doubts in the evidence presented by the prosecutor. In our mind the defendant's attorney doesn't have any evidence that she didn't commit murder either, however, it is not required. All the defendant's attorney did was not to let the scale be shifted which is partially mentioned in the video and therefore the defendant's attorney's closing statement should actually be part of the reason that she is found not guilty: the evidence presented by the prosecutor was not concrete enough even though it did provoke the jury and us to think that she is the murderer, the defendant's attorney dismissed these thoughts as being emotionally biased or simply reminded everyone that thoughts shouldn't be what the jury's votes are based on which is painful to say but true.
Edit: This comment is just what I get from what happened in the video and the wiki, it is in no way perfect, and I am not claiming that anything is unfair. I am open to any corrections.
this is so sickening i am extremely attached to my mom this breaks my heart that she doesn't care about her daughter at all it breaks my heart that the parents care so much about her too
Wait, so you're telling me that this women is actually free and living her life as if nothing has happened? What happenend to the lies she told the police, shouldn't she at least get arrested for those? It's very unfortunate for the victim that the prosecutions didn't go straight to the case and show the evidence because as shitty as it might sound her attorney was right, it's only evidence and proof that should matter and the only thing that they failed to give and thus bringing no justice to Caylee's murder. Such a shame!
Her mom wanted to look her in the eyes to she if she was lying. She knew her mother knew and that's why she started crying. After years of pathological lying her mother can see past it now
Interesting how what seems to be a sociopath was sexually abused in their youth (allegedly). Isn't that a characteristic shared with a few psychopaths / serial killers?
This whole story is just the perfect representation of Justice in America. An orgy of evidence that would make a mystery writer blush, and she gets off.
Casey is incredibly good at laying! I would have believed every word! She is relaxed and confident. And so, in the end, the child drowned and then got buried and not reported missing until the grandma insisted to seeing Calee... Casey is so obviously guilty.
There's a quote that says: If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. Not sure where it came from or who said it, but that eventually did not work with the detectives.
Да еще в процессе допроса все было очевидно 🤦♀️ Судя по временам глаголов она сначала говорит, что Джульет работает прямо сейчас в парке, и прямо сейчас занимает там должность, и прямо сейчас они работают с ней вместе, и через несколько секунд на тот же вопрос отвечает, что Джульет переехала и больше там не работает. И никто не задал ей простейшего очевидного вопроса - как так, вы же только что говорили другое? Можно было вывести ее на чистую воду за пару минут. Что за интеллекты.. 🤦♀️ «Кейси невероятно хороша в эффективном использовании манипуляции» - так хороша, что любая русская школьница поймала бы ее на лжи и вывела на чистую воду за несколько минут 😂 При разговоре с родителями она вообще прямо проговорилась, что ее дочке повезло, что они «были» ее бабушкой и дедушкой, и потом с опозданием тут же поправилась - «и есть» 🤪 Интеллект рыбки у вашей эффективной манипуляторши - у нас дети в детском саду логичнее фантазируют))) «Она говорит так убедительно, что в другой ситуации у вас не было бы подозрения, что она лжет» - да у нее самое очевидное поведение лжеца, причем на уровне неразумного подростка, а не хитрого взрослого. Она к своим годам взрослой тетки оказалась вообще неспособной нормально соображать: взрослый человек до сих пор не в курсе, что нельзя просто прийти и придумывать противоречащую через предложение чушь и думать, что, если ты будешь на вид уверенной (вообще нет), то все сразу скажут - а, ну ладно, тогда перестанем искать пропавшего ребенка)) Это интеллект недоразвитого подростка, вот и все «убедительные таланты манипуляторши». И все эти «странные разговоры» не что иное, как огромный страх осуждения толпой людей, что все узнают, кто она есть, а плана с ее интеллектом - никакого, и делать что - непонятно. Ее единственная цель и забота была все это время - не дать ненавистной толпе решить, что толпа ее сломала: и для этого не показывать виду, что ее волнует все происходящее, чьи-то обвинения и чьи-то мнения. Но прикол в том, что люди, которым действительно плевать, не шипят на недогадливых родственников в телефон, и не пытаются все время корчить из себя добродушного улыбчивого человека в беседах с детективами: они ведут себя свободно, не перед кем не заискивая и наплевательски. А ей плевать и на эту дочь, и на этих вообще ни черта не понимающих, видимо, всю ее жизнь, родителей, и всех этих родственников-подруг, которым тоже до сих пор не очевидно, что должно было стать очевидно с самого начала всей этой истории, - но ей не плевать на себя любимую. Подруга вообще не фонтан гениальности: реально сидела и думала, что во всей этой ситуации убийце станет очень интересно, что же там думает эта подруга на этот счет и как этой подруге - десятой воде на киселе - будет плохо: даже странно, что героиня не послала эту подругу) Имхо она сидела и проклинала тот день, когда эта дочь родилась и «испоганила ей жизнь», ее очень сильно волнует она сама - маленькая сладенькая принцесса, которой зачем-то природа всучила этого ненужного ребенка и окружила этим недогадливым всю жизнь окружением. И имхо больше всего ей хотелось, чтобы весь этот недостойный ее мир выкусил и не получил от нее ни одной эмоции и ни одной слезинки, которых не достоен и не заслужил, - и всем этим «идиотам» не удастся наслаждаться ее эмоциональным падением на их глазах: вот что ее на самом деле волновало все это время - но при этом ей было именно важно, чтобы мир не почувствовал, что положил ее на лопатки. И в этом большая разница с теми, кто говорит миру «выкусите, идиоты» и при этом действительно плевать хотел на мнение этого мира.
The defense can apparently make up any unproved possibility as an alternative to suffocation which seemed to be proved. He may as well have offered alien abduction . Maybe this jury would have bought that too.
Yes, I don't know why JCS seems to think he did a good job. It's immediately apparent that he's as sleazy and cartoonish a defence lawyer as the worst daytime movies have to offer. This was completely on the jury. They let probably the worst murderer I've ever heard of go free.
Best friend: "If anything happened to the baby I'll die." Casey: "Calling you guys was such a waste." WHAT? I genuenly can't believe there's ppl like this out there.
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? Juries across the country make decisions every day on the fate of defendants, ideally leading to prison sentences that fit the crime for the guilty and release for the innocent. Yet a new Northwestern University study shows that juries in criminal cases many times are getting it wrong.
How was this okay? How did she never go to jail, get a single charge, and avoid getting killed by an angry mob afterwards? It's a mystery how nobody killed her?
She’s good at keeping her lies going but jcs why aren’t you posting anymore I keep rewatching your videos at work😔 you get hella views im sure YouTube paying you good keep going!
I recall she had put her in an oven at home, Casey Anthony had put her daughter in an oven. This was absolutely changed, and the whole thing about the father abusing Casey, thats new.
I wish I worked with Juliette Lewis. She's my favorite Hollywood Actress! Casey Anthony is such a terrible liar. I can't believe this woman got away with this.
I feel so bad for Casey’s Dad, how do you ever talk to your daughter again after she not only got away with murdering her daughter but did so by accusing you of molesting her for years…
The unfortunate thing was that the prosecution was fighting an uphill battle from the get-go. They had no proverbial smoking gun, this allowed the defense to play on the emotions of the jury through psychological manipulation.
@Sofia D'addario he was thrown under the bus so hard!. And being accused of child molestation, theres nothing worse. The defense really did a number on him.
I remember reading somewhere that Casey’s parents claim that they strongly believe she did it. Imagine losing your granddaughter, having your daughter claim you did it and molested her when she was young, know that your daughter did it but she still gets to walk away free and live her best life... I feel so bad for them! I hope someone would reopen the case and fight to have her thrown in prison to rot!!
Her dad doesn’t talk to her anymore and thinks she’s guilty (sort of), her mom however is in denial. There’s a documentary on Hulu about her parents years after the trial.
@Loker22 I feel like sometimes in these big, hyped up and super publicized murder trials, the prosecution is so sure of themselves and trying so hard to show it to the world, that they make dumb little mistakes. Just like in the OJ trial, making him put on the gloves...just so stupid. And I think here maybe the prosecution didnt try to connect with the jury as much, like the video said too. It's just mindblowing to me when they have these cases where theres SO MUCH evidence that they could screw it up u kno?
@Loker22 omg that sounds JUST like the documentary on netflix called "where is little Gregory?" I THINK that's what it's called, but it's in Germany, if I remember correctly...it maybe italy... I'm sorry it's been a bit since i watched it. But its been decades and no ones ever told of who killed the small 4 yr old Gregory. These cases are so sad...family never gettin closure, and the victims never getting justice. I'll check out that case u mentioned, too. And what u said about OJ was VERY funny and true! Best acting hes ever done that's for sure!
@Megan Young is "where is little gregory" the case of a boy found dead in a well? If i remember right, there was a story of a child who fallen in a well in italy and they arent able to bring it up from there because it was too deep. This story is from '80 or maybe before
@Loker22 omg that's HORRIBLE. But no, this boy was taken when he was right outside his front door, playing unattended for just a few minutes. Then, around an hour later an anonymous man who had been threatening the family for years called and said he killed him and he could be found in the town river. It was so fast, then there were many suspects, ANOTHER death, crazy publicity...and it's like 30 or so years later and the killer has never been found.
@Megan Young oh yeah this case about you ve just written is similar to the "Denise Pipitone" case (its the name of the missing little girl btw). I cant imagine to be one of those families who lost a child and they will probably die without knowing what happend to her child, where is he/she, where is the body or who kidnapped or killed her/him. Living the rest of your year with this monster who affect your brain, that dont let you sleep well, dont let you be able to smile again. Damn, i cant even think about it
@Maryam M She was found innocent of the charges. Once a defendant is found innocent of charges, they can't be charged for the same crime. That's written into the 5th Amendment.
@Loker22 I can't think about it, either. If anything had happened to my kids, I would be a basket case right now. Heck, I was freaking out when I lost sight of my then-3-year-old son for a couple of minutes in a medium-sized supermarket. And that was in a relatively safe country (Japan). I can't imagine what it's like when your child has been missing for a long time.
@Mikenekosama exactly, if you get distracted with your baby child in a public place for 1 minute, you could regret it for the rest of your life. The case of "Denise Pipitone" in italy was not her mother fault. Denise (the little 4 yo child) was with her grandmother at home in a poor populated street of a poor populated city and she vanished at 11a.m because her grandma was cooking and Denise gone playing in the street for a couple of seconds. I cant imagine what her grandma had passed trough this years.
@Loker22 I am glad that my kids made it to adulthood (although they both had big medical problems at one time during their childhoods, but the Japanese health care system took care of their problems). Both kids were within minutes of losing their lives at one point. I was out of the country when one of them had spinal meningitis, but the Japanese doctors took care of that thanks to their mom and grandparents. The other one had suffered acute asthma and we got her to the hospital with only 10 minutes to spare. Both times scared the crap out of me.
Good parents want their kids to live, to prosper, and to succeed. I can't imagine any parent who would not want that for their kids!
@Mikenekosama i know and that’s what’s making me so mad!!! I saw a video of her not too long ago and I can’t believe she called the police within five minutes when someone spilled water at her leg but she waited for a month to report her daughter missing- UGH I HATE HER!!!
I think that most believe that she is lying, and don't think he really did it. But it's fucked up that she attacked his character like that, because that can EASILY ruin your reputation and fuck your life up. Which is awful when you never did it 😢😢😭😭😭
Her attorney did a damn good job but I wonder how he gets any sleep at night and sees his own kids knowing he defended a cold-hearted monster from strangling her own daughter.
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little critter2020-12-10 02:48:50 (edited 2020-12-10 02:49:24 )
Maybe she’ll never kill again. Hopefully not. Seems like she just couldnt take motherhood. Plus she has to live with herself but seems like she really has no remorse. RIP Caylee
Guys, come on. Don't prove the "Youtube Commenters are stupid (mentally) 12 year olds" trope true.
Now I don't know what happened between her and her Lawyer in this case, but do not dare assume a Lawyer defending a monster must be a monster themselves, or just being greedy, or blame them for whatever outcome.
The vast majority of Lawyers representing criminals do so because of a believe that the Law applies to everyone, and everyone deserves a defense in their favor. You know, Human Rights and stuff. All are equal before the Law. Things we in our world fought and died for so, so many centuries.
What exactly do you guys want? That the accused gets no Lawyer? No defense? Is that the world you want to live in? Fine, then move to North Korea, or China, or parts of Russia and see how you like it there. See if you think that way when you or anyone you love ends up on the wrong end of the Law and is subjected to a Kangaroo-Court.And don't think for a second just because you would never do a crime you'd never end up in that situation, because the danger of being wrongfully arrested and convicted is a lot higher in places that ignore our modern standard of Law and Order than anywhere else.
@AugustusCaesar everyone has a right to be defended and to get another chance. Thought every action has consequences (death of a child for example). I don't think she should be punished by death (or anyone else in this world) but all the case looks weard to me like she is guilty (yes I know I'm not an expert) - the police themselves told she was lying all the time (and it's proven by facts - fake nanny, fake coworkers, fake work trip for example). After looking at her someone could think it's OK to get away with stuff like that. So yes for me it was so frustrating to watch not the fact the woman was being defended (again: everyone deserves that right - here I agree with you) but the way the lawyers have chosen to do that - it seems to me they were faccinated by their own art of putting people in doubt and the fact such a big case is in their portfolio now. IMHO.
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John doe2020-12-24 16:55:15 (edited 2020-12-24 17:23:25 )
@AugustusCaesar Perhaps you did not see this video. Let me summarize the situation to you. She killed her daughter, lied to her parents, lied to the police, googled how to suffocate someone and remain undetected, wrote in her diary that "she was happiest than ever" and "trusts herself that she did the right thing", went partying during the time her daughter was missing, her daughter was found suffocated and bound. Under an enormous mountain of evidence, what does her lawyer defend her with? well... 56:56 ... ShE wAs LiEiNg To HiDe ThE PAiN fRoM hAvInG hEr FaThErs PeNiS iN hEr MoUtH ... That's right... she threw her own father under the bus and her lawyer dramaticized the situation as much as possible making the murderer of a child appear as a stoic rape victim.
Your entire little rant has nothing to do with the question asked being: how he gets any sleep at night and sees his own kids knowing he defended a cold-hearted monster from strangling her own daughter
What does dismantling the modern legal system has to do with anything? Who even hinted at this? What does China or North Korea have to do with anything? What does your example have to do with anything?
You are the one supporting the trope of "Youtube Commenters are stupid (mentally) 12 year olds" . You are the one who is using a strawman to its greatest extent. Please get off your pedestal and remain within the given subject before accusing others for being ignorant.
@Mariia Oh I agree, I find it a travesty that she didn't get convicted. And yes you may question the actions of the lawyers, but again I ask you what you want from the lawyers. Not to try and get the least amount of sentence for their clients, the least which would be freedom? How would that work? Should the lawyer say "Dear Judge, my client is a monster and should spent a long time in Jail, just maybe not too long if it pleases you."?
That would certainly please everyone else who believes she is guilty, that includes me, but it would defy everything a lawyer is supposed to be and to do. And what if we would do the above and assume a lawyer should, if himself convinced of the guilt, not try to get his client free. What if then later it turns out that person was actually innocent? "Whoops, not my fault, hahaha..."
I just really want to know what in your mind a lawyer of an accused is supposed to do. A honest question I hope you will answer.
@John doe And what does any of what you wrote have to do with the Lawyers being monsters? I absolutely agree she should have been convicted, but what do you expect the lawyers to do? Just answer me that question. Was their way of doing it somewhat underhanded? Yes, but it was the best way to defend their client, and that is exactly what a lawyer is supposed to do. Or should in your mind a lawyer not to the best to defend their client?
And my "rant" wasn't just directed at the OP, the original commenter, but the general attitude toward the lawyer in this section here.
"What does dismantling the modern legal system has to do with anything? Who even hinted at this?" When have I ever said anyone did hint at that? Please quote mr where I did, then I will explain myself.
I mentioned North Korea and China because these two have a system of Law that don't respect or give equal chances and a proper defense for accused. Many here have hinted that they have a problem with the lawyer doing their best to defend this woman. Hence me assuming they don't want such accused like the woman to get a proper defense, thus me making that connection.
And how am I "supporting the trope of "Youtube Commenters are stupid (mentally) 12 year olds" ? I specifically asked people NOT to prove it by being the stereotypical "Oh I wish we would just murder, torture such people and throw them forever into a hole" Commenter you see basically under any criminal Video on Youtube. I am just sick at that.
Also, what strawman? Can you quote me where I strawmanned anyone?
@AugustusCaesar "Sorry, but people like you piss me off." Since you reserve your right to be pissed off at someone for their tone, I will reserve my right to be pissed off at gaslighters, and although I will grant you that you made a mistake in the thread, I am not a mindreader. All I see is someone insisting on something that is not there.
"All I see is someone insisting on something that is not there." Except I already admitted I made a mistake and so am not insisting anything?
All I see is a Virtue Signaler who needlessly went out of his way to be condescending and aggressive when this all could have been solved nice, friendly and much quicker if you'd just politely informed me of my mistake. All, that is my assumption, so you could portray yourself as someone better, as the one who "Stops the evil that is off-railer and off-topic writer with the fist of Internet Justice!".
If my response to your polite information of my mistake would have been impolite, by all means go at me.
Yet you didn't even give me a chance to notice my mistake, correct myself and apologize before becoming aggressive, condescending and accusing me of just wanting to gain attention instead of making a honest mistake.
I do realize there are more than enough such people, and more than enough who wouldn't have admitted their mistakes after being called out, but I think it is unfair to then assume everyone is such.
If you think about attorney will defend there customers wether if they are good or bad it sucks to work like that imagine you defending a criminal knowing what they did.
It's very easy to sleep at night. You just feel pity for the sad prosecutor that couldn't win a slam dunk case. Easy to not feel guilt if you did your job and someone else didn't do theirs. If you can't think like that, you're not a lawyer.
Her attorney was just so much better at influencing the jury. It's not right by any means, and justice wasn't served, but there's clearly a flaw in the system if story telling skills are what make or break a case. This woman is absolutely vile. To tell such a despicable lie about her supportive and caring father in order to get away with the murder of her 3 year old daughter is beyond appalling
The issue here is that even if Casey was innocent and did not murder her daughter, she is still the reason her daughter is dead. She was not taking care of her. She did not call the police. She went out partying right after her daughter goes missing. She wrote in her diary that she is happy now while she cannot find her daughter. She misled the police for no reason to delay the investigation.
@Esther do you not understand looking at things from a different point of view even if not true.
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Scott Johnson2020-09-20 23:10:17 (edited 2020-09-20 23:10:54 )
I would have hung that jury to come back with some sort of child neglect, neglect of body, etc, manslaughter charge, but I didn't follow the case or the jury instructions.
I just don’t understand how she had no sort of repercussions from this. I guess it’s almost a worse thing that she will probably never truly have a life but no justice was ever attained.
You did a better job explaining her part in her child's death in one paragraph then three attorneys for the state of Florida did over the course of six weeks.
@adam adam Well, the babysitter she mentioned didn't exist and she took police through the runaround when her daughter was dead and buried somewhere. Nothing about that says, "innocence" to me. Either it was an accident caused by her, someone murdered her daughter with her knowledge, or she herself killed her daughter. Whatever the case, she was certainly complicit in her daughter's death. First by not calling the police on day one, and second by continuing to lie to them about a fictitious babysitter who doesn't exist. I would love for there to be an investigation into this case. Re-examine a lot of things, and reopen the case with a different jury, judge, prosecution, and defense. The Jury didn't understand the meaning of reasonable doubt. The only thing they couldn't prove was the manner of death. I mean, people, seriously. Her mother had shot girl costumes, suffocation, foolproof suffocation in her internet search results prior to her daughter's reported disappearance. The prosecution had already proven involvement on some level. The criteria for Jurors was released on this case and they were looking for "independent" thinkers who "wouldn't buy into the public opinion." In doing this, they unwittingly found Jurors who didn't believe she was guilty beforehand. The incompetence in this case is frustrating but that's America. We send innocent people to prison and murderers who conspire to commit murder home. Our system is broken, our society is broken. This nation is beyond saving.
That's the trouble with charges. They're specific. And then obv the jury factor. They'd need to go after her for different charges, but the double jeopardy thing doesn't help.
My eyes OPENED WIDE when I heard she was found not guilty….
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Kelly Wood2022-03-20 23:45:34 (edited 2022-03-21 00:10:13 )
My son went missing for literally 5mins but it felt like hours an I was absolutely distraught screamin his name like a lunatic x I don’t understand if you don’t want a child use contraception, if it’s accidental then get an abortion, or wait till it’s born an give the baby up for adoption x or if u want the baby but notice it’s stoppin ur life or for whatever reason again adoption is available x this is so sad x my 2 children are my world x they keep me alive on a daily basis x
First of all, I feel like it's not up for debate if she did it or not, it seems obvious she either did it or orchestrated it.. and the fact that she's putting up this facade with her parents during that visitation call, whew. Enough to make your blood boil tbh.
the way she acts around the 40min mark is exactly the speech and movement pattern I resort to in a nervous conversation where I don´t know a lot about the topic but I have to make a good impression.
Defense lawyer: 56:35 "Caylee Anthony died on June 16, 2008 when she drowned in her family's swimming pool." He then predicates a huge defense upon that assertion, coupled with Casey's alleged childhood abuse. Defense lawyer: 1:00:31 "The one question - the key question - will never be answered, and that is 'how did Caylee die?'" He contradicts one main premise of his initial defense.
These jury members were intellectually unfit to be in a jury.
I mean idk, but he may have meant something more along the lines of "you think she was murdered, we think she drowned accidentally, we'll never really know the truth" but that's just how I interpreted it.
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Scott Demirjian2022-02-05 03:54:16 (edited 2022-02-05 04:07:45 )
@Brynna C is your interpretation objectively more reasonable than mine? I quoted him word for word. You deviated heavily from what he said. The jury needed to vote based upon what was more reasonable and empirical.
He wasn't saying they "think" that's what happened. Initially, he was asserting that they knew that's what happened.
Exactly his defense isn't even half decent and an incompetent juri fell for it letting a sociopath murderer like Casey walk out free making a mockery of the justice system every single person in that juri should be ashamed for their entire lives
Doesn't matter. All he did was raise reasonable doubt. That's all that matters in a criminal case.
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Scott Demirjian2022-02-07 15:25:50 (edited 2022-02-10 00:59:41 )
@Xyz0321 Wer is it reasonable, though? I think that's my point here. Is it reasonable to contradict your most important assertions to create doubt? Is it reasonable to default to conspiracy-think when most of the evidence available would fit very cleanly into the theory that Casey killed her child? Any other explanation/defense is a square peg being wedged into the round hole that was the evidence. Her behavior simply cannot be even remotely explained in any other reasonable way than to begin with the premise that she wanted her child gone.
There is nothing reasonable about doubting Casey's guilt in this case. Baez didn't present reasonable doubt - he simply gaslit a jury the way a conman sells you something you don't need at a price you can't afford. Doubting her guilt is objectively unreasonable and frankly delusional.
@Scott Demirjian that's not what reasonable doubt means in law.
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Scott Demirjian2022-02-08 14:16:47 (edited 2022-02-08 19:07:37 )
@Xyz0321 Wer in law, reasonable doubt is any reason one has to doubt what the prosecution is trying to prove in its case.
So when you take the totality of the evidence:
1) the internet searches on Casey's computer for 'suffocation' and 'foolproof suffocation' the same day (or day before) Caylee died
2) the close proximity of the body to Casey's home in some woods, double wrapped in plastic bags, put into a duffle bag, and hidden behind some logs
3) the tape placed over the nose and mouth of the body
4) the absolutely cockamamie and obviously fabricated story Casey's mother gave for why 'chloroform' was searched for on Casey's computer during the time of Caylee's disappearance (this wasn't covered in this video, but Dr. Grande's breakdown of this case covers it, and it's worth listening to)
5) her own mother's testimony on the 9-1-1 call that it smelled like a dead body had been in Casey's car
6) Casey's bewildering behavior that was specifically calculated to only mislead and confuse investigators during the entire time Casey was supposed to have been unaware that her child was deceased, but rather only missing
7) again, the defense's bumbling internal contradictions of its own premises and main points
8) Casey's diary entries explaining that she's sure she made the right decision, and that she's the happiest she's ever been literally just weeks after her child has disappeared
9) her outright fabrication of the supposed kidnapper
10) the defense's rather criminal misrepresentation of her own father, falsely alleging that he molested her during childhood (i'm amazed he never sued for defamation of character)
11) her frequent partying during the weeks after Caylee's disappearance (this speaks directly to her motive: to regain the free lifestyle she had prior to motherhood)
12) her unwillingness to report her child missing, instead having her mother discover Casey's whereabouts and phoning it in herself
13) the polarized contrast between her mother's hysterical call for help versus Casey's calm, numb, careless demeanor in that very same phone call
14) the fact that even the judge believed the state had proven their case, and was fully convinced she'd be found guilty (also in Dr. Grande's video)
(and this list goes on for dozens more points)
then it really is a phantasmagorical degree of denial of the obvious to suggest there is a good reason to doubt Casey's guilt here. Sure, you could resort to conspiratorial or schizophrenic thinking like you could to doubt that the earth is spherical, or that Elvis is still alive, or any number of other obvious facts about reality, but that isn't reasonable, and thankfully, it isn't how our judicial system normally operates. It's certainly not supposed to be how it operates. I would call those 'delusional doubts' rather than reasonable ones, and I think that would be objectively true to say since every single piece of evidence points to Casey. Yet delusion is the only mental state one could assume to doubt this woman's guilt, and it's exasperating trying to explain that to people who think they've somehow championed reason or justice by defending her or unabashedly proclaiming there is any good reason to doubt her guilt. Casey's guilt is the one explanation for which every single piece of evidence is accounted seamlessly. There simply isn't a reasonable doubt to be found, and shame on anyone who refuses to call a spade a spade here.
@Michael Krämer you know, I've thought this too, but when you get a sampling of 12 civilians, it tends to correct for the fallacies that an individual might not catch or fall for. Really, it's rare that such an obvious case like this one, or the OJ Simpson case (which, btw, Casey went on to directly compare her own case to in a later interview, which could be hindsight point #15 in my list a few comment above) goes awry. If you had a jury of less than about 8, you'd see far more injustice. But with 12 having to vote unanimously, this is thankfully an uncommon event. Still shameful nonetheless.
@Scott Demirjian It's still not a good system by any stretch of the imagination. Having untrained civilians play such a crucial role in high-profile (or any) court cases is utter insanity.
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Scott Demirjian2022-02-09 15:07:36 (edited 2022-02-09 15:09:14 )
@Michael Krämer they're not altogether untrained, though. There's a fairly rigorous and thorough instruction they receive from the court, the judge, and legal teams on what can and cannot happen in cases, what information can and cannot factor in to their decision-making process, etc. They also cannot be felons or in poor standing with the legal system. So there is a decently reliable filtration process that aims to prevent ethically unqualified people from serving.
I'm interested in hearing your alternative methods for judicial objectivity. And I certainly don't want to be mistaken as defending the jury in this particular case. Their misjudgment here truly was a totally avoidable tragedy.
@Scott Demirjian Instructions or not, most civilians can still easily be swayed emotionally by an attorney who knows what they're doing. The much better alternative would be a European trial system, i.e. the judge gets to make the decision at the end of the trial, based on the available evidence, and if the defendant feels that it wasn't a fair trial, they can demand a retrial.
@Michael Krämer or perhaps simply a corrective mechanism where the judge could appeal the jury's decision, and then issue a recount where he also gets a vote that's worth, say, 3 vote counts. Then, it would take 5 of the jury members changing their verdicts to overturn the initial decision (a count of 8-7). Unanimity would then not be mandatory.
Whatever the corrective mechanism is, we clearly need one that isn't a complete affront to the judicial system.
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Scott Demirjian2022-02-10 01:07:14 (edited 2022-02-10 01:08:46 )
@Michael Krämer there's actually a good answer to your initial question there. Having only a judge dictate who's guilty or not lends itself to allowing a corrupt, sleep-deprived, deceived, or otherwise unfit individual mistakenly make a call for which no checks and balances could correct. The point of a jury and its necessary unanimity is specifically to correct for an authoritarian approach to justice, and changing these laws this substantially at this juncture in our nation's history would create a profoundly unstable uproar and backlash from the public. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that. So I fundamentally disagree that juries are relics of a bygone era, and your extreme hyperbole in discussing the stature of the American judicial system in comparison to other first-world countries may be uncalibrated enough to have intelligent people altogether ignore your concerns if you aren't more careful with your word choice. It's in need of some rehabilitation, yes, but your suggested alternative simply wouldn't be the remedy you're claiming it to be, nor is it as antiquated and ineffective as you're trying to sell.
I think the lawyer said what he said at 1:00:31 because he assumed that it was not reasonable for the jurors to trust what he said at 56:35 just because he said it. He was just putting himself in the jurors' shoes. No contradiction here.
@Miguel G. it's still a double standard, though. He starts by making a positive claim to knowledge about the circumstances around Caylee's death, and then finishes by speaking to the lack of knowledge about the circumstances around her death. And each of those claims is supposed to serve to exonerate Casey. This is a textbook example of a double standard.
@Scott Demirjian i understand your point of view but it all comes down to the lack of evidence. Listen, i think shes definitely guilty here. But i think the evidence is lacking for first degree murder. But the fact that she probably planned to ignore the death of her child as long as she needed to, she still deserves jail time.
There's a special place in hell for attorneys like that, I genuinely don't understand how you could live with yourself after working so hard to let a child murderer go free. Have to wonder if some attorneys know their clients are guilty, so they're like, I'll do my job, but do it poorly so they get convicted.
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Scott Demirjian2022-02-22 21:29:44 (edited 2022-02-22 21:32:31 )
@Miguel G. I watched the video where juror #3 (Jennifer Ford) explains and defends her decision to vote 'not guilty,' and one of the many fallacies she repeatedly appeals to throughout her explanation is that there wasn't enough hard evidence, and that not only did she not know how Caylee died, but that she believed there wasn't one person in America who could claim to know how she died. Now, given that this woman later reveals she does believe it was a homicide, I don't need to tell you how stupid it is to couple that belief with one that no one knows what happened to her... Clearly somebody does. But the larger issue is that this juror made the mistake of only looking at one or two pieces of evidence and suggesting some possible weaknesses in them in isolation. She fails to ever address the sheer impossibility of taking ALL of the evidence in its totality and trying to retain a reasonable doubt for Casey's guilt when presented with what I spelled out several comments up: the overwhelming mountain of evidence that's all seamlessly accounted for if theorizing Casey's guilt.
There's a motive of wanting her previous party life back, there's internet search history on Casey's computer that's perfectly compatible with the tape found over Caylee's nose and mouth, there's testimony to the smell of decomposing human flesh emanating from Casey's vehicle, there's Casey's obvious lack of care for her daughter's whereabouts during the month after she went missing, there's the total fabrication of a kidnapper and an alibi for Casey (she lies as freely as she breathes, which of course is an enormous red flag), and the list truly goes on without limits.
Look, I don't know the exact methods the contractors who built my house used to build it, but I don't question that they built it. Did they use a nail gun, or hammer the nails in? Did they ever work on it in the rain, or were they only working in clear conditions? Did they use tool belts or prefer to go back and forth to a work bench or toolbox, or perhaps both? Were any of them illegal, or were they all licensed to work in the US? I mean, I could ask a million questions about how they did what they did, and I could possibly answer many or even most of them. But some questions may remain unanswerable, and that's ok. At the end of the day, I know they built it, and I can find out exactly who had a part in building it. I don't need to know how they did it to know beyond a reasonable doubt that they did it, nor to determine who did it.
Prosecutors and defense attorneys are paid to do that. Hate the game not the player. Its your government :P also thats just human nature, people are shit. Its easy to talk shit from the comfort of behind a screen. Though how she didnt get charged with child neglect at the least is beyond me lol
@Michael Krämer hence the title "Judge" sorry but that's the way to should be here in the United States. Ditch the jury and let the JUDGE decide the verdict.
@Razakin the 'game' is designed to correct for unethical 'players' who defend obviously guilty suspects on bad faith arguments, though. In nearly 100% of cases, juries do, in fact, get these verdicts reasonably correct, but when one in 10,000 slips through the cracks, clowns like you make a point to undermine the entire American government and its judicial system as if this is some predictable pattern rather than the outlier that it is. Unlike you, I actually wasn't merely talking shit from behind a screen - I was making an observation that now over 1,000 other people have agreed with in just 3 weeks time. The system isn't broken; the jury certainly was.
@KB 2020 I lived most of my life in Florida. In terms of “collective IQ”, I can assure you this just feels like a factual statement. That is exactly what I thought as soon as I heard the jury’s verdict and I wondered if anyone else thought the same.
The fact that they still claim: "We reached the verdict because the prosecutors didn't provide enough evidence" pisses me off because the defendant evidences is nearly nonexistent.
@Scott Demirjian actually i mean you just watched an hour youtube video on a court case that went on for a long time man. most lawyers have to react to new evidence and such also, and we didn’t see any of the actual trial of the case. specifically his reasoning for that claim. for all we know he could’ve explained that it was just an example and they didn’t really know. again you watched a youtube video you aren’t an expert on this case nor a lawyer bro.
@Ethan Roy how did you decide that any of what you just said was true? How can you be certain I don't have a law degree? How do you know I haven't watched the dozens of other available videos about this case, some of the jurors' remarks afterward, the judge's thoughts afterward, both lawyers' remarks afterward, etc.? Why do you think one requires a law degree to be able to identify when someone has massively contradicted themselves? I'm trying to figure out why you think you can extract so much information from my one short youtube comment, but you think I'm constrained to learn enough to form a reasonable conclusion after watching an hour of substantive content about a court case that demands no more than a double-digit IQ to follow sufficiently. Seems like a wild double-standard, and an embarrassing one, frankly.
@Scott Demirjian what makes you think you can be an expert on something by watching youtube videos on it? even if you watched everything that was publicly available on this case what makes you think you can take your shitty youtube skills and relatively unprofessional scope of knowledge of the judicial system and be able to judge a case that was put together by experts? Ive seen a thousand of you, you think that you know more than you do about everything. You don’t really know much about anything. that’s how i know you’re not a lawyer bud 😂
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Scott Demirjian2022-03-03 22:50:37 (edited 2022-03-03 23:20:01 )
@Ethan Roy you don't seem to understand how logical consistency works. If someone makes a truth claim and then later makes a contradictory truth claim, they are internally inconsistent. Whether someone is a lawyer is a total non-sequitur to their ability to articulate such an inconsistency. I never claimed nor even suggested I am an expert on law. I don't have to be an expert to understand the basic concept of logical inconsistency.
You are correct. He knew that very well, and exploited that factor to the bitter end. You can hate him or love him but he is lawyer above all else and a good one at that.
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Scott Demirjian2022-03-04 04:39:47 (edited 2022-03-04 04:42:35 )
@Ethan Roy ah, I see. So you think I'm mistaken for criticizing the unintelligence of others, and your way of demonstrating that I should be slower to assume the incompetence of others is to hypocritically charge me with incompetence. Perfect, keep enlightening me man. I really need your wisdom and guidance.
@Brynna C correct. He’s presenting a question of fact to the tinder of fact. People have a misconception that our legal system is aimed at discovering the truth.
That’s not the case. The truth is impossible to know. Our system does not even attempt at it. Instead, we are aimed at coming to a legally acceptable conclusion. The jury finding that Cayley was killed or that she drowned were both legally acceptable conclusions
@McGuffin Doe you don't find your second paragraph to be an obvious straw man of my position though? You're going to try to argue effectively against me with ad hominems and misrepresentation? Quite obviously my position is that the burden of proof was thoroughly exceeded when the totality of the evidence is taken into consideration, and that it's an unequivocal breech of ethics to fail to acknowledge that.
Take a moment to appreciate that you first said "The jury finding that Cayley was killed or that she drowned were both legally acceptable conclusions" and followed it up with "Legally acceptable refers to conduct of police and attorneys and judges."
Casey is on tape many times now continuously changing her story about what happened to this day. I’m hoping there’s a way for a retrial she was tried but wasn’t convicted so it shouldn’t be double jeopardy.
@Scott Demirjian I think the lawyer meant, "we can't prove she drowned in a swimming pool, they can't prove her mother killed her, therefore YOU will never know for certain what actually happened"
He is a very clever lawyer. Pressing for full advantage that it's the prosecutor's job to prove guilt.
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Scott Demirjian2022-03-16 23:25:36 (edited 2022-03-16 23:25:48 )
@Allan Couceiro that's almost verbatim what another person commented up above in this thread. If a jury is in possession of the 15 or so pieces of circumstantial evidence and the 5 or so pieces of physical evidence and still doesn't think they, in their totality, demonstrate guilt of murder beyond a reasonable doubt, their epistemological method is fundamentally flawed to the point where they could even see video or hear an outright confession and begin forming conspiracy theories to still exonerate Casey. It's delusional not to acknowledge that she was, at minimum, criminally complicit in her child's death.
@Scott Demirjian uff.. I still stand by the defense lawyer's sentiment though: "baby drowned in pool, but we can never know (ie prove) what happened, one way or the other"
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Scott Demirjian2022-03-18 10:04:38 (edited 2022-03-18 10:24:31 )
@Allan Couceiro sharpen up what you mean by 'prove,' because evidence-based proofs aren't the same as, say, mathematical proofs. That's why the standard of reasonable doubt is implemented in deciding a verdict. But if you want something like a mathematical proof, you could assign probabilities to each piece of evidence that represent the likelihood that Casey did not actively participate in the killing of her child. Now, I grant that this would have some major tolerance or error constraints, and it may even run the risk of being subjective to a degree that renders it unscientific or unreliable. But I will revisit that weakness in just a moment.
Say that the search history on her computer being a complete coincidence is about 30% (what would have to be a tremendously generous value). There's plenty of room for reasonable doubt there. Allow for a 20% tolerance, and now you could argue it's a coin flip as to whether or not that piece of evidence could serve to demonstrate potential guilt. Now accompany that with her diary entries also being a coincidence, or perhaps just a total misunderstanding. Let's say it's about 75% likely that what she wrote in her diary during the time Caylee was missing isn't indicative of feeling glad that Caylee was gone (also profoundly generous to her). Give that about a 20% tolerance too. Even when taking those two pieces of evidence together, you get .3 x .75 for a probability of .225 (or 22 5%, give or take our tolerance of 20% for each piece of circumstantial evidence) that she is not guilty here. Obviously this doesn't meet the standard of going beyond reasonable doubt. With those tolerances included, we have anywhere from a 5.5% chance of coincidence (and therefore doubt) all the way to a 47.5% chance (of doubt). So, keep doing this with the other pieces of evidence. Maybe the fabricated kidnapper and alibi each get around a 30% chance of her underlying childhood trauma surfacing in deceptive fashion, but not because she killed Caylee. Give each of those around a 20% uncertainty tolerance too. Now we have .3 x .3 x .3 x .75 yielding a .02025 (or 2.025% chance) for doubt/uncertainty for her guilt. Now that looks pretty damning, but we haven't calculated it with the most charitable tolerances yet. That would yield a .5 x .5 x .5 x .95 for the doubt of her guilt, or about 12% to be uncertain to convict. Well now there's a lot more room to doubt reasonably in this case. But all we have to do from here is now factor in just another piece of evidence to realize how untenable this idea that we can't prove her guilt is. Take the smell of decomposing flesh as attested to by her very own parents. This one gets extremely hard to defend, but let's say there's an equal chance that Caylee drowned and Casey just...I guess...rode around with her dead daughter in her car instead of calling an ambulance when it happened? Set aside the psychological implications of such a course of action... Let's assign a 50% chance to both homicide and accident here (this is frankly irresponsibly generous in favor of acquittal, but I'm doing it solely for the sake of argument). Maybe tack on a 20% error for this one too. We now end up with a range of .0165% to 8.31% for sheer coincidence, and thus reasonable doubt. At this point, we are needing to opt for the highest allowable tolerance in favor of Casey's innocence for each piece of evidence to retain that 8.31% chance of coincidence and doubt. Keep factoring in all the applicable evidence as presented in the case, and that number continues to decrease exponentially. Take, for instance, her leading investigators to a dead end at universal studios when trying to create the narrative for her alibi. Maybe that's another time when it's 80% likely she just wanted attention or was subconsciously crying out for help rather than lying to cover her tracks for murder. Now, this is my most outrageous percentage yet in her favor, but I'm trying to demonstrate that we can be as charitable to her as possible, yet our hands are still tied in reasonably doubting her guilt. Give that one a 20% tolerance too, and our percentage for doubt actually doesn't change at our most charitable tolerance, as we've effectively multiplied what we previously had by 1.00. Should we assign it this value? Well, no, i think we objectively shouldn't. But we could, and it would help her case. The problem we run into is that we cannot leave any piece of evidence out here. We have to crunch the number in their totality. So when we incorporate the remaining dozen or so other pieces of evidence like her motive to party again and her behavior during the month between Caylee going missing and the authorities being notified, even our most generous boundary for doubt begins to approach less than 1%. It was at 8.31%, you'll recall. Now, factoring in a coin flip for each of those pieces of evidence with 20% tolerances, we get an upper bound of 4% likelihood that this is all a coincidence, and that reasonable doubt for Casey's guilt amounts to 1 in 25. Still not enough to convict for the death penalty, I grant and agree. So let's now factor in our remaining pieces of circumstantial evidence: the proximity of the body to her home, and how Caylee's body was triple-bagged to suggest homicide being roughly 30% more likely than an accidental death. Again, these figures are so generous to the defense that it's literally laughable and perhaps even reprehensible to entertain them. They're arguably unreasonable, honestly. But we'll still use them, because we need to have a conscious that isn't plagued by any possibility of injustice. That gives us a 35% chance on 2 pieces of evidence for coincidence and doubt, coupled with 20% tolerances for each. Now we take our 4% chance for reasonable doubt and multiply that by .55 and another .55 to arrive at a 1.23% chance for coincidence as our uppermost bound. That's about 1 in 81. Have we passed the threshold yet? Maybe reasonable doubt evaporates once we exceed a 1 in 200 chance that it could all be a coincidence. This is arbitrarily defined, which is why I began by recommending you define what you mean by "prove." If we use our neutral tolerances for each piece of evidence, this standard is well exceeded. It's .025%, or .00025, or a 1 in 4,000 chance that all of this is a coincidence based upon the evidence we've calculated probabilities for so far. But let's stick with our least aggressive tolerances. We still haven't even included the other half of the circumstantial evidence yet, man. HALF! This number would end up getting close enough to 0 even at the upper bound that trying to maintain reasonable doubt would only become possible for a schizophrenic or otherwise delusional vantage point, as I've already mentioned in several other comments above.
If we only had a few pieces of this evidence, then it might be true to say we can't be reasonably certain of her guilt. But we end up hitting epistemological bedrock with the shovel of a stupid question when, after considering all the evidence, we continue to ask 'what if we're wrong?' You have a better chance of being struck by lightning the same day you win the lottery than that you're wrong about this.
Scott Demirjian2022-03-18 15:21:30 (edited 2022-03-18 15:22:11 )
@Allan Couceiro fair enough, it's an absolute wall of text.
Well, TLDR; I present the proof that she's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Guess if you don't believe me, you're gonna have to read it to make sure I'm full of crap.
Not to be rude, but you strike me as the type of person for whom taking the time to read something intellectually challenging might really do some good.
@anoN Nona nah man, and that's my point. No-one here was on that jury, so we only see what JCS shows us. That trial would have gone for weeks. Who knows what the jury saw/heard?? Maybe if we were in the jury, we would have thought "reasonable doubt", too.
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Scott Demirjian2022-03-19 02:41:43 (edited 2022-03-19 03:15:20 )
@Allan Couceiro while I realize your responses to me were completely vacuous, you made a very good point to anoN Nona that, while they can definitely speak for themselves, I want to address also.
You really do make a well-calculated, mature point there. It's entirely possible that the jury members were privy to information that, had i been subjected to in the same way, would have left me in a similar state of doubt. That would, of course, debase my initial remark that the jury was intellectually unfit to serve on a jury unless I am to concede that I would be too. And of course, with 12 separate members of society unanimously agreeing they didn't have enough evidence to convict, perhaps it's too easy for me to attribute this to stupidity, as several have already suggested above to me. I get that. Maybe they aren't stupid; maybe what influenced their decision-making differed substantially from my own, and I'd have also acquitted if in their shoes.
Hmm. Why does this feel like a familiar scenario? Wait, I think I've got it.
I grew up a fundamentalist Christian, and finally started learning about cultural differences, science, mythology, epistemology, and rhetorical devices and fallacies late into my teenage years. Into my 20's most of the central claims of the faith became untenable for me to continue holding given what I was coming to learn about the world I lived in. And hey, 2 billion people worldwide adhere to Christianity. Another 1.7 billion adhere to Islam, and still a billion more to Hinduism. These are all mutually exclusive worldviews, mind you - they can't all be true in the same sense at the same time. Now, how did I come to form an epistemology that would stay consistent in disproving Islam and Hinduism while also maintaining Christian ideology? Well, i couldn't do it with any intellectual honesty in tact. So your argument that I too would be compelled to vote as the jury did only if I had been on it is extremely analogous to saying I'd be a Muslim if only I grew up in the middle east, or a Hindu had I grown up in India. That's probably true, up until I reformed how I establish what is true and what isn't, and the gradients of possibility in between. But this is what I mean when I say they were unfit to serve on a jury. They didn't have a reformed epistemological methodology to correct for whatever indoctrination tactics had been employed to dissuade them from what we as the retrospective audience now find to be so utterly obvious.
I'm not saying they were collectively dumber than the general population. Quite the opposite; they were a true sampling of it. It isn't common to meet people with a solid enough epistemological foundation to refrain from subscribing to ideas that 90% of people around them insist are true. Now, of course, that observation in and of itself doesn't mean much. Maybe that person is delusional. Maybe they're denying gravity, or think birds are government drones used to spy on civilians. Or maybe they tend to get ahead of unpopular ideas and can extract the truth in ways that don't seem obvious at first, but prove more and more to be true as time allows us to examine the evidence further. I'd wager that's what I, and many others here, have done. We're the ones less likely to get conned. We're the ones not accepting BS as sufficient, nor being swayed to believe that being overly-skeptical is noble rather than the complete affront to basic human decency like in this particular case..
When it comes to being impervious to rhetorical tactics used to melt our minds, yes, this jury seemed not to have anyone psychologically strong enough to withstand the mental rigors of sorting through the evidence through a filter constrained by reason instead of incredulity. I think I've more than defended my point here, and stand by it.
Not only that, he told them that there was no proof of how she died...so how can he say that she died in the swimming pool? There's no proof. Aside from that, a Medical Examiner would have easily been able to tell if the person 'died in a swimming pool'. It still doesn't answer why her mouth was taped up (why tape a mouth up if she was already dead), stuffed in the trunk for however long, wrapped in a blanket, and then tossed out somewhere to be found by someone else. Is that not 'abuse of a corpse"?
You've misunderstood the fundamental part of the quotes. The first quote says she died by drowning. The second quote asks whether it was murder, neglect or accidental. So no, he didn't contradict any premise of the defense, nor were the jurors intellectually unfit. In fact that's reasoning for not being a juror so I doubt they'd make it through selection if they were.
@Jackie Bruhn how can you objectively conclude that's what his second quote meant? I think you're equivocating the cause of death with the context of death. You're saying you think he wanted to draw attention to the question of the context of her death given that there was tape over her respiratory orifices when she was found triple-bagged disposed in the woods, coupled with testimony of human decomposition emanating from Casey's car alongside a fabricated alibi and kidnapper rather than simply drawing the jury's attention toward the perceived uncertainty of what caused Caylee's death? That seems profoundly unreasonable. I mean, as clumsy as his contradiction was, that would have been orders of magnitude worse, would it not?
And by 'intellectually unfit' I mean unequipped with the ability to spot rhetorical fallacies and/or an adequate epistemological methodology, not necessarily an inability to solve basic problems or comprehend straightforward information, for instance. The bar they set for reasonable doubt trended irresponsibly close to outright delusion, in other words.
@Scott Demirjian A) I'm not equivocating anything. I'm saying the reasonable assumption and interpretation is that that's what he meant.
"She drowned, but can we prove it was murder?" - is quite literally the entire point.
B) Dude, your rambling is absolutely unnecessary, it took me two seconds to reply because that's how little of your message was substantial in the slightest.
@Jackie Bruhn provide a time stamp for what you have in quotes, please. I'm not hearing where Baez says it.
Go figure. I type a couple short paragraphs pertaining to your objection about the jury's qualifications and I'm rambling unnecessarily, but Baez spends half an hour gaslighting the jury in his closing remarks for them to simply return a 'not guilty' and I bet suddenly you'll think his rambling was necessary. Just because you didn't address what I said doesn't automatically make it irrelevant lol.
@Jessie Mulcahy even more frustrating is the onslaught of otherwise intelligent people still remarking on this comment in defense of Casey despite now being 12 years removed from this with mountains of additional reasons to be nearly certain that Casey was complicit in the unlawful death of her child.
Tbf he could have meant whether or not she was murdered rather than the specific cause of death
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@The thiccest boi it was known beyond a reasonable doubt that she was murdered, though. Once confronted with the evidence of the tape over Caylee's nose and mouth and her body being triple-bagged and hidden in the woods, where is there room for any reasonable doubt of homicide?
He also said that immediately the prosecution were trying to paint casey as a bad person, but immediately the defense painted casey as a victim with no proof. If caylee drowned, then WHY was their duct tape and WHY did casey look up "fool proof suffocation". This is absolute bonkers
@Johnny Sins I bet all 12 of them were homo-sapiens, too. Kudos for shoehorning a political agenda into a conversation that couldn't possibly have anything less to do with politics.
@Johnny Sins so far I've had people on this comment thread tell me how my religion is bound to provoke me to do heinous things (I'm an atheist), quote people in the video as saying things they never said to try and make their point, argue about the burden of proof not being met but then refuse to read 4 paragraphs I write in response literally refuting that position, and now I've got some troll impersonating a porn star liking his own comment that alleges me to be a Democrat (I'm not) as if that could even conceivably further this conversation at all. To anchor every facet of life to partisanship is to not know how to sufficiently think critically in a way that solves problems. So who caught who here?
@Patrick Lincoln What? so he lied at 56:35, realized that nobody would believe his lie, so creates a completely new lie with no connection or consistency with the first lie. And that's somehow not a contradiction?
@Razakin We do hate the game. We're all saying that the justice system sucks. We also hate the defense attorney for abusing a shitty justice system instead of having integrity and doing the right thing. I don't care if defending is his job, I can hate him for lack of integrity.
he wasn’t contradicting his own defense he was admitting his defense couldn’t be proven same as the prosecution - there is no way to ever truly know how she died
She claims right there that she talked to her daughter a minute or few minutes right then on 911 call. That little girl never had a nanny ever in her life their all lying about that nannies are expensive if you go through a reputable service
The most interesting thing about this case is Caseys Lawyer. That was pure magic, what a pro! Hes def going straight to hell tho. Do not pass go do not collect $200 dollars
Why was the father of the murdered kid never mentioned in media coverage? Not as a suspect, it’s obvious who the killer was, but just as an interested party?
Do some more research about her parents and you'll see the mom isn't nice at all. She's controlling, argumentative, angry, narcissistic, the list goes on.
what did it is the defense attorney saying "remember, you can only convict her guilty if youre absolutely sure". a lot of jurors thought she was guilty, but they knew they didnt know beyond a reasonable doubt, and that's all it took. all the evidence points to her being guilty. all of it. homegirl literally google searched how to suffocate her kid... like... i just dont see any reasonable conclusion to make other than casey did it
she said Jeffrey had a nice house and then when the interrogator spoke and said talk about when you got off work and she said she went up to the apartment to get catylee and then she said her female co worker moved three months before to new york but said she stopped working there a few weeks before
Any good mother Would of called them cops if someone or a babysitter took their child. I’d be knocking doors down looking for my son. Ain’t no way I’m gonna go out partying and whatever else after someone took my son. I look at it that way as most moms would and it’s just ridiculous. I can’t believe she got away with this.
Completely self-centered narcissist. I feel sorry for her daughter and her parents...but the later honestly helped lead her on this path by not holding her accountable when she skipped school and bailed her out of every kind of debt or guilt. I'm pretty sure they are aware of that too. Must be some weight to carry.
57:33 BOOOOOOM!! This is what in Spain we call "as my last day in the convent, I prefer to shit inside it in that moment". True or not, was definitely a Hail Mary in the last second of the game. José Báez was an exceptional devil's lawyer, tbh.
I notice that when the three detectives were interrogating her in the office, they didn't sound like cops. They didn't sound measured and controlled. They weren't using any detective tricks. At that point, they were just three fathers getting frustrated with a mother who didn't seem to give a damn about her daughter.
They were missing persons detective, not homicide detectives. If it were homicide detectives on that interview it would have gone a lot different. Missing persons job is only to find people not try to interrogate for murder
Feel bad for those detectives. I can’t imagine how upsetting of a situation they were put it dealing with her. She played them and they couldn’t do a thing about it. She was in control the whole time. It should’ve been the other way around.
30:00 is when the ma kinda came to relization that she probably killedher daughter how she was speaking about her daughter like she is in the past. Smh!!!
Her parents raised and enabled a pathological liar. It’s always seemed incredible that her parents believed her story for so long. They coddle her, calling her honey, sweetheart, darling. I think they’ve always been afraid of her. She ruled the roost.
If I had showed up one day without my son- my parents may have beaten me half to death if I didn't IMMEDIATELY have an explanation of where he was. There's no damn way they would have been supporting my ass or calling me "sweetheart" while I'm sitting in jail.
@Grande Capo I pity the father, having to see his daughter make lies about him and throw him under the bus just so she wouldn't have to deal with the repercussions of her crime.
*died in the pool so naturally had to wrap her in duct tape, a blanket, a laundry bag, drop her in a swamp, google suffocation on the day of, waited a month to say anything and pathologically lied throughout the investigation
god, if I was Casey and my child got kidnapped, assuming she didn't plan this shit because I'm only seven minutes in, I'd be freaking the fock out. that's my focking kid!
Y’all do know that people were killed by authorities on the suspicion of being guilty of things, not actual evidence, but we made the courts humane in todays world. You people always yap about humane this and humane that, centuries ago, she would have been put to death on the gallows on these facts, because she’s definitely guilty even without clear-cut evidence she actually did it. It’s we know everything but can’t actually prove it. So thanks to all you weak hearted people who put a stop to the old ways 👍👍 No justice for the baby.
From her childhood till adulthood she lied and did not get punished. In many developed countries giving punishment to children is seen as bad parenting. But sometimes these are required for cases like this. Skipping school for whole one-half year without getting punished - is simply unimaginable. Also getting pregnant and childbirth at young age is also a problem. This woman does not even know how to organize her own life. How can she bring up a child? Parenting is a huge burden on her. Teenage pregnancy, giving birth before marriage - all cause to this sort of problem. Sometimes, I feel, a little conservative society is necessary to avoid some problems lie this one..
The infamous words of Roderick Heffley "Listen to me. No matter what they ask you, no matter how hard they push, deny, deny, deny; even if they figure it out, never ever admit to anything".
Her lawyers, after successfully causing a miscarriage of justice, shamed all the decent people who thought Casey was guilty, even though it was still totally obvious that she was.
The lawyer is just doing his job. It's his job as a defender and he was fantastic. But it's so fucking appalling that the woman got off free and did not do her time for the murder. It was the prosecutor's fault for not giving a better presentation.
She was guilty There s no doubt about that, she knew she was dead that's why she hid the fact that she was supposedly missing, what mother in her right mind wouldn't run for help to the police to help find her daughter, she told lie after lie and hindered the police from finding her because she didn't want her found dead or alive and now she's free to live her life without the child she she so callously disregarded and murdered, she's evil
Her lawyer was getting his beak wet and in it for the fun like any guy was doing what any straight single guy would do if he had a law degree and a 20 year old attractive female was in need of some help
Her lawyer accused George of molesting Casey in opening statements and then never mentioned it again...such a sick trick to get some sort of sympathy from the jury and to discredit a grieving grandfather
i honestly think they knew she was guilty really ...that Biase(sp) was just a nasty s.o.b. ...i read some not so good things about him .. some things he did before he became her lawyer were really shady ......
Kasper Vestergaard No. I understand the duty to try your hardest to defend her in court, but after I won I wouldn’t run to the nearest microphone and admonish everyone who thought she was guilty — especially if I knew she was guilty too, as they doubtless did. Just feel relieved that you won in the face of mountains of evidence and a clearly narcissistic client and leave it at that.
@RearAdmiralTootToot A jury should never use "sense" or quess what happened. Its the job of the state and the district attorny to PROOF you did something wrong without reasonable doubt! They are the ones who failed! They didnt proof it 100% So the only verdict can be not quilty.
@genobambino "everyone who !thought! she was guilty" And that is it! Thought has nothing to do with it! You need hard evidence someone did the crimes you accuse them of. And the state didnt privde enough hard evidence that she did! I also think she did it! But you cant and should not sentence someone to death without 100% proof! I bet my left kidney that if they tried for life in Prison she would be in Jail already..
You don’t actually have to have hard proof or even more proof than they had. You just need to convince the jury. A lot of cases are convicted in circumstantial evidence and the culprit getting caught in lies. Your point about the death penalty may be a good one though.
Kasper Vestergaard You need yo be more specific. I wouldn’t what? I wouldn’t rub it in after I stole a not-guilty verdict? No I wouldn’t. I’d slink off and not take questions. But maybe that’s not what you’re asking...
I totally get the point that lying is a coping mechanism but if I were to hide my child after they drowned in a pool I wouldnt duct tape their mouth and nose and I dont see any reason to either.
Exactly, and she looked up suffocation a day before it happened and journaled now she was the happiest she ever been, the people who were on the jury should live the rest of there lives knowing they failed this little girl.
@Vicious Vegan Since PoPo goes after young white women right away everyone knows that, her lying every time she opened her mouth and driving them onto wild goose chases didn't persuaded them that she is inoscent...
@Kat 🇺🇦 you have to understand, in that situation, every person helping you to find out the truth IS your enemy. they dont really care about her. they only care about that little girl. the very thing that was holding her back and she got rid of it.
So there are a bunch of just normal people who decide in the end? and who's pullin off the best show wins? Wow, thats odd. But what for do you have a judge?
Waaaaaaaaaaaaait a minute, how dafuq is the opening statement of the defence: "Caylee died in the family swimming pool" And then the closing argument is "It cannot be proven without any reasonable doubt"...wtf is this?!
some stuff doesnt make sense tho… if she drowned in a pool, why did she duct tape the mouth and nose? and how could you just dump your kid then go partying? its not emotional, i feel like its evidence acting like that and doing those things… but whatevs im not a professional lol
i don’t understand how these defense attorneys & jurors can sleep after these years of knowing they set a child murderer free. it just puts me at a loss for words.
Its despicable that she got away with it, the fact she never reported it until a month later should of been a life sentence. What was the grandmother thinking. Clearly no one cared about the poor girl or something wouldve been done sooner
I agree, but I don't believe it's the jurors' fault. The defense team did a great job and the jurors legally made the right choice based on the evidence they had in front of them. What seriously amazes me the most is how those defense attorneys can look at themselves in the mirror. Even Casey I can understand, she's a sociopath so she doesn't know any better. But they choose to devote their lives to play the system and make a mockery of justice for their own personal gain. And to top it all off, they have the audacity to stand up on their soapbox at the end and gloat about it in front of everyone. That's a truly disgusting, lowlife scumbag act. Anyone with a modicum of dignity would just keep quiet and walk away. Anyhow I hope they're proud of themselves and their life's contribution to this world. May God have mercy on their souls.
@Sharkskin Boy Yeah I mean they are just doing their job, and they probably use the money they got to help them sleep at night, but I agree with you on the gloating at the end, it was so cringeworthy, I didn't really pay attention to what the jury looked like, but I am guessing mostly men, and she was kinda hot/petite, so they probably went full white knight to the rescue on her. If it was a bald dude he woulda been locked up.
@Dea Dean there was plenty of evidence against her to put her away for good, from the moment she lied about knowing jeff, she should’ve been tried & found guilty. these people failed the justice system, innocent caylee & every other victim who’s attackers have been set free.
I read some of juror's thoughts on this case. They somehow regret of their decisions and thinking it will stick with them forever. They knew they could have pushed it a bit further. Since it was obviously a murder, then who is the murderer? No camera records? no local witnesses of the car? What was the whole point of the trial? Are we saving Casey out of jail or finding who murdered Caylee?
@Dea Dean If a citizen helps a criminal to get away with a crime by lying to and misleading police that in itself is a crime. Yet when a defense laywer manufactures a story to help their client get away with a crime that's OK. Bear in mind it's the lawyers, not the perpetrators, who come up with these detailed, elaborate stories for the judge. I agree that everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but I don't believe making up BS stories for the sake of averting punishment is what a fair defense is about. But of course everyone is happy with that arrangement because that's what keeps the system going around. It's not about truthfulness, it's about who can outsmart who. One big game.
Just because if a defense attorney doesn’t do his/her best work to get their defendants free the whole trial can be nullified and eventually the defendant can walk free as well and this attorney would be disbarred. So a defense attorney must do his/her best and all the decision is made by juros, based on what was presented to them only, and not in what the media e other people’s points of view, although these may be more correct. It’s part of trials rules and specified by laws. If anyone wants to change that he/she has to talk to their law makers.
The problem is.. you need to ave lawyers liek this because you need to make sure you put the least amount of innocent people in jail - but obviously we know its not fool proof.
The belief is.. to let 10 guilty men go than let 1 innocent man suffer...
She had a good lawyer.. the state didn't do a good enough job.. when everything was in their hands.. the lawyer used the fact they relied on character assignation vs concrete evidence as their strategy.
@Sharkskin Boy If I recall correctly, there WERE rumors that Baez and Anthony were caught in compromising positions, but I don't think they were ever proven to be true or not. But personally I don't even doubt it at this point.
Respectfully, there needs to be proof, not likelihood. It’s better to allow a few criminals to go free than to find a few innocent people guilty. This is the worst part of the best legal system in the world.
A lot of the evidence described in this video was not shared with the jury. They didn't hear about the foolproof suffocation search, for instance. They were told a different story, one I'd have trouble believing myself. I think the blame is on the prosecution, not the jury.
@Sharkskin Boy okay think about this the defence didn't know for sure wether she is the murder or not and it is not the defendant job to make judgment , defendant just have to do his/her best and defend . Lets say the person is not guilty but there are some things that say he is and the defendant just make judgment on his own and didn't even try to defend him properly he will make a grave mistake. So the defendant never make judgment (should never) and defend with whatever they got
@Sharkskin Boy I think you're being too harsh. Criminal defence attorneys aren't there to game the system, they are an important part of it. Their job is to treat every case as if their client is innocent and offer them the best defence they can. While this does sadly mean that some sociopaths walk away, it also means that some people who look super guilty but are actually innocent get to avoid going to prison for something they didn't do.
Another thing to note is the difference between the public and private image of these attorneys. Yes they are going to make statements at the end congratulating themselves and their teams, because that's also part of representing your client in their rightful legal defence. But I'll bet you in many cases like that they secretly hate that they won the case and the alleged perp walks free.
Just because they publicly celebrate, doesn't mean they don't privately regret the way that things turned out.
@Mosisusasu Well looking at this specific case, I don't believe for a minute that Casey's father was abusing her, and that therefore she was just doing what she had learned to do in the past, keeping everything quiet. Really? So when her father abused her each time, did she also learn to go to hot body contests a few days later, like she did after her daughter died? That was clearly a BS story concocted by the lawyer and Casey and it's just disgusting what they did to her father to try to avoid responsibility. That's not defense, that's blatant lying and it's criminal. Listen to the lawyer's voice when he told the court that, I cringed when I heard it, he almost had an apologetic tone in his voice like he didn't believe it anymore than he knew anyone else would. Anyhow, it is what it is. Thanks for your opinion anyway, I appreciate it.
@Sharkskin Boy there was absolutely zero evidence in her defense all that they had were words on the other hand they had already found several pieces of clear evidence that she killed her they found a poem she wrote that was psychotic she was trying to make herself feel better by writing a poem talking about how her decision was justified then they found the child’s lifeless corpse in a swamp with tape around her face but they still believed that it was a accident in a pool and if that doesn’t show you how idiot and horrible they handle this then she also completely lied the entire time while talking with the detectives they even called her out on it THEN she literally preceded to entirely change her story when she noticed that they weren’t buying it
@nick n It was something like 10 women/7 men including alternates. They said they couldn’t give her the death penalty which is infuriating because they were asked if they would be able to do that as part of their qualifying questions. I don’t have a better alternative but juries frighten me.
Only by having excellent defence lawyers such as this will police and prosecutors also be excellent, and therefore we can all trust in the criminal justice system to catch baddies and lock them up, and to reduce/ eliminate miscarriages of justice. The prosecution in this case were substandard and as such, a likely murderer walked free. Everyone must be afforded a fair trial in court. This is a foundation of our society. We may all be angry and disappointed that the prosecution and police investigation in this case were inadequate but that’s where the focus should be - a learning review as to why this case failed is the right thing to do to ensure that murderers don’t walk free in the future. In the uk we got rid of Doyle jeopardy which means - if you did it, eventually you’ll get convicted once the forensic evidence catches up!
@Sharkskin Boy Everybody is entitled to an adequate and robust defence. You could just as easily say how can prosecutors sleep at night with what they do. They are both essential parts of an adversarial justice system. And no justice system is perfect.
@DPR Contracting I understand what you're saying, but prosecution is based on providing as much evidence as possible that points to the truth about what happened. They are not at liberty to make up stories, only talk to the evidence. The defense on the other hand, seems to be able to create whatever narrative they choose, with no evidence, to subvert the truth. A fair trial is not about who can win this game, it's about truth on both sides.
Something not discussed is that she grew up with her law enforcement detective father. She is comfortable with that personality type and understands how to manipulate and get around and maneuver authority.
Maybe, but she didn't fool anyone in this case. Her family and detectives knew. Her lawyer did an amazing job at creating doubt. According to other comments the jury was all female. I'm sure they would have convicted her if she was a man. She got lucky and got off, but not because of her lying ability at all. All her lies were exposed.
nardinit they were not all females and most of them have publicly stated they thought she was guilty but it was pressed so much before hand that if their was any sliver of room for doubt they could not convict that they felt they had to say not guilty because the prosecution could not prove without any doubt.
@nardinit I agree with you that they weren't taken in by her lies. I meant more that she showed no fear, no remorse, no hesitation. When she was backed into a corner she plowed right on without hardly batting an eye. She was in no way intimidated by authority figures. And I believe that is because she grew up running circles around her cop father.... I mean besides her obvious sociopath lack of conscience
@Holly Brooke By that standard no criminal would be jail right? You can't know beyond a shadow of a doubt somebody did something unless you were there and saw them do it yourself. I think that jury did society a great disservice and that murdered child an injustice
When my brother was in highschool and the few years after too he hung out with the main cop in our town and they got into so much crap together and Tony always said to my bro “dude my dads a cop I have the whole playbook.” When my bro got pulled over for an illegal turn with the son in the passenger seat the dad just told him to get lost not thinking that he walked away from the traffic stop with all of the evidence
@Dat Boi Exactly. Beyond reasonable doubt is not the same as "Beyond any far-flung theoretical possibility" or literally nobody could eve be convicted of anything. You could just argue that you can't prove they weren't abducted by aliens who altered Casey's brain and killed the little girl. You could argue that a person who claims they saw a murder first-hand might just be imagining that particular thing. Is that reasonable? Of course not! It would seem so far beyond reasonable doubt that this woman is so very obviously guilty, I just cannot believe the verdict. It's really quite distressing, to be honest. What's that saying, that stupidity and evil are the same if you judge by the results.
George was a deputy sheriff in Ohio with a job performance like Barney Fife.He was fired When the media contacted the sheriff department in Ohio they chose to not speak for or against George.It was pretty bad.So that bar was already set very low
"Shes been able to lie her way out of everything her whole life and it always worked with her parents but its not going to work with police detectives" Plot twist... She lied her way through the entire investigation and trial and was found not guilty, meaning it actually all worked and to this day she still has never had to take responsibility for her actions.
I used to work with a pathological liar it is a very bizarre experience to deal with one. There lies go beyond what a normal person might lie about they stretch even the most basic information. The guy used to work with tried to blame me for his shenanigans he took a water hose and sprayed it all over the back of the store. The boss man chewed me out and later I suppose he found out that he was a pathological liar and he got fired the boss man was nice to me after that. At any rate if you ever meet one and have to deal with one, once you find out they are a pathological liar it makes dealing with them easier because essentially every word that comes out of their mouth is b*******.
Pathological liars, sociopaths, and narcissists are surprisingly common. This case was terrible. However, I'm worried about the others that are walking free still hurting people. Casey got caught because she slipped up.
codemiesterbeats yeah, it’s indeed bizarre. They don’t seem to have a ‘motive ‘? for the lies either. Idk if I’m articulating this very well, but usually people lie for some reason. I.e.;to gain something, to get out of something(trouble, legal issues, work issues, relationships etc.), to avoid hurting your feelings sometimes(does this dress make me look fat?? “NOOO!!”this lil white lie, if necessary). But pathological liars, will lie just to.... lie. No rhyme or reason why. They just lie outta habit. Pathology. They’re driven to do it. It becomes so awkward, when you know & THEY know that you know but they still do it!!! Ugh.... it’s so, fukdup.
TheLegend27 I don’t think Alekka is necessarily blaming the family lol
It just makes sense; Nobody would suspect their own daughter. And we can’t really blame them for wanting to believe her innocence. They’re family after all. The justice system, on the other hand, has no personal ties to her and are professionals, so you’d expect them to figure it out. It’s their job.
@Nunuv Yabuiznez It's not surprising at all that parents would want to believe their kids are innocent. I don't think anyone is surprised by that. What is surprising is that for whatever the fuck reason, everyone else in that courtroom(besides the prosecution) seems to believe casey is innocent just as much as her parents do. And it seems all we can do about it now is complain about it in hindsight. My skin crawls whenever I hear her speak, I can barely even look at her.
@Nunuv Yabuiznez It is always assumed casey's family had no ties to the judicial system, yet casey's dad was a former policeman. I say that definitely presents a possibility for there being ties with police and potentially other powerful, influential figures of the law. Politics can play a huge part in life, such as getting a job and getting into the right school....or getting away with things you shouldn't get away with.
She is writing a book about her life after Caylee's death, which I beg people not to buy... She also tried to make a movie. Which Covid derailed. Thank God. She has lately been discussing having children again. Uhg. That jury failed Caylee. Horribly failed her. In every sense of the word. Disgusting.
Thanks for the tip. Will be highly interesting book to read. She is truly unique human being (unlike your average mindless citizens), in most fascinating way.
It's not the jury's fault - the defense had a better game plan. He had a better connection than the prosecution. The big problem I think was prosecution using a woman (no, this isn't misogynistic, put away the torches & pitchforks!) they thought "a woman's/mom's perspective" would add more gravity to their case, just by having a lady lawyer do the talking. But did you listen to her opening statements? Dull, flat, cold voice plus their arrogance and gullibility - prosecution failed miserably. Idiots.
@ScoCon86 that's a weird way to phrase it all if you claim you're not misogynistic. You could've just said that all of the defense lawyers were dull, flat, uncharismatic, which they were. What does it have to do with the gender of the lawyer who does the opening statement? A bringing a woman for the opening statement wasn't the problem, the problem was their entire method of approach. All the lawyers failed.
@Mahdia AhseenThe lawyers did fail, yes, but they're first mistake in the courtroom was in going with a not-so-subtle misogynistic angle from the beginning. Attempting to use a woman to explain how moms are supposed to treat their kids. But of course someone read my opinion the wrong way - it's expected on opinion-based, "you-be-the-judge" channels like this.
@ScoCon86 The jury was there for one reason, to decide whether or not the defendant is guilty. This person was guilty, but the jurors somehow failed to see that, so they absolutely did fail as a jury.
@ScoCon86 Are you really telling me jurors don't give their verdict on legal cases? Is this really the hill you want to die on? Tell me then why judges say, "the jury finds you guilty". Why is it that when you search something like, "jurors role in the legal system", you receive the same answer, "The jury decides whether a defendant is "guilty" or "not guilty" in criminal cases, and "liable" or "not liable" in civil cases."? Your entire response is nonsensical.
@ScoCon86 Why don't you explain to me exactly why you think I'm "special needs"? You said it isn't the jury's fault she wasn't convicted, when they are literally the ones who give the verdict on the matter. I'm aware of how juries work, and what due process is. It doesn't mean the jury didn't "fail Caylee", when they failed to convict Casey, especially when it was obvious she did it. She had hear head "buried and slumped" when hearing the recording of her mother calling the cops after finding her 31 days after Caylee went missing, smoking weed and doing drugs with a friend. When asked by her mother where Casey was, she said her babysitter, a person never verified to exist, took her daughter 31 days prior, and she was using her own methods to track down Caylee. Instead of calling the cops and giving herself the best shot at finding her kid, like a normal person would do, she was found doing drugs with a friend, without a single care in the world, not doing anything but what she wanted at the time. The defense tried to say Caylee drowned in the family pool and Casey's father helped her dispose of the body, which her father denied. They even said her father abused her as a child. They couldn't even use that in court because there wasn't any evidence. She lied so many times during the trial, no normal person could possibly believe she isn't guilty. They failed to see this, and, subsequently, failed Caylee. This isn't a debate, ScoCon.
@Lightspace You are the one who isn't understanding of the situation. You can refer to my most recent response to ScoCon. Also, I don't think you even saw the trial. If you did, You wouldn't say anything about "poor proof and evidence to go on".
@ScoCon86 Yes, I stated these things... I was forced to do so multiple times because you still don't seem to understand what I'm trying to convey, despite me being clear and concise. I will not reply to your nonsensical, unfounded ad hominem attacks in the following paragraphs. In stead, I'll attempt to clarify one more time. Since you like to quote verbatim, I'll do so as well.
In response to the original commenter stating, "the jury failed Caylee", you said, "it's not the jury's fault". I then came in and said, "the jury is there for one reason, to decide whether or not the defendant is guilty", "the jurors failed to see that, so they absolutely did fail Caylee". You then said, "Juries don't work like that", then spewed off with irrelevant info again. Tell me, ScoCon, If juries aren't tasked with convicting the guilty, why is the definition of "Jury", "a body of people (typically twelve in number) sworn to give a verdict in a legal case on the basis of evidence submitted to them in court"? Also, tell me how they did Caylee justice by not locking up the person who murdered her. I don't care about all these irrelevant details about how the court system works. I am telling you, ScoCon, they did not do this little girl justice by letting her murderer of a mother off scott free, so they failed her. There are only 2 options here. Either the jury did Caylee right by not convicting her, or they did her wrong. Since you believe they didn't do her wrong, explain how they did her right. Don't attack me ad hominem again. Justify your position.
I watched a lot of the trial and agreed with the verdict. The prosecution should not have sought the death penalty against her and they relied too heavily on Anthony’s poor moral character; the jury was reluctant to convict her of murder/manslaughter without seeing any evidence as to how the child died. The prosecution should have charged her with multiple counts of obstruction of justice.
@Ray the defense disputed everyone of those pieces of evidence, the developer of the software that analyzed the browser search history admitted at trial that “chloroform” had been searched for only once and there was a flaw in his software, the defense never claimed that Anthony was always honest with investigators (and she was never “on the stand”, she declined to testify at trial), and the child could have been in the trunk after dying accidentally (like drowning in the swimming pool like the defense postured).
@ScoCon86 so it wasn’t that it was a woman for the defense, it was that particular woman… you might wanna think about how to express yourself a little better
@Ray you’re wrong dude. You have way too simplistic, 6th grade civics view of how court procedure and jurisprudence work. Jurors must come in with a completely neutral standing and ideally no contamination or knowledge of the case prior, and any contamination from news etc is ordered to be disregarded by the judge. They may only work with that is presented in court. And you’re misunderstanding or ignoring reasonable doubt and innocent until proven guilty. Only one juror needs to be 99% sure instead of 100% and it’s a hung jury, simplistically. You’re kind of being confidently wrong here..
@Al No, Al, you're just adding in irrelevant factors, subsequently skewing your view on the matter. If you've been following, you'd know I previously stated I'm aware of how court procedures work. I also followed the trial. It doesn't matter how they came to the decision she wasn't guilty,("court procedure and jurisprucence" in mind,) they failed Caylee when they failed to convict her murderer. Plain and simple. If you don't believe so, justify your reasoning for believing Caylee was done right by them not convicting her murderer. There is no third option here. Either Caylee was done right by the outcome of the trial, or she wasn't.
@Ray you obviously don’t have anything past middle school understanding. Their job is not “to convict the guilty” the way you phrase it alone shows you don’t have the understandings they are there to render a verdict based on presents evidence. If you followed the trial you saw how hard the defense lawyer worked the case and how poorly the prosecutors did. If it’s just up to the jurors to “convict the guilty” what are the judge and lawyers for?
You keep just writing in circles insisting your right without actually backing up your claim and you continue to display amazing ignorance. It’s crossed back into funny again. How they came to the decision that she wasn’t guilty is EVERYTHING. The fact that you think it’s nothing is the nail in your coffin.
@Al I'll make it incredibly simple for you. Lets say a demolition crew was set to destroy a building. Everything goes as planned, but later, they find a body in the rubble. Did they fail this dead person? Sure, they didn't have knowledge of his whereabouts and he could've snuck in at any time, but that person is dead and Its their role to ensure no one is in the building prior to it blowing up. They failed to ensure this, as evidenced by the dead person, so they failed said dead person. Just as, that jury failed to do their job, which is to convict the guilty, so they failed Caylee. This isn't a debate.
@Ray I understand being pissed at the outcome and the lack of justice for this little girl but the people you’re actually pissed at are the prosecution team for not being able to handle the burden of proof and provide the jury evidence outside of a shadow of doubt that the judge allowed for deliberation and the fact that they got chased out of the court room by a sleazy little defense lawyer who successful out doubt in some of their minds. That’s all it takes. A sliver of doubt, if they had convicted despite the sliver of doubt it would have been wrong. This is the system we work with.
@Ray I also explained several times to you why you are wrong in assuming the jury is independent of whatever the prosecution and defense says to them. So I am now done attempting to explain it to you further, since you are stuck with your misunderstanding of how US Justice works. However, I wish you the best, and I hope you live longer than you're supposed to. Good luck. Oh, and I'll let you have the Last Word - you're welcome!
@ScoCon86 And I've explained to you multiple times, it doesn't matter how they came to the conclusion, they failed Caylee when they failed to convict her murderer. Both of you keep bringing up irrelevant info, when the fact of the matter is, the jurors are there to "give a verdict in a legal case on the basis of evidence submitted to them in court". In this case, if their verdict reflected reality, Casey would've been convicted as the murderer she is. She wasn't convicted. Meaning, the Jurors verdict was wrong and they subsequently failed Caylee.
@Ray lol dude. The irony of claiming someone can’t process by logic. Where do you think the jurors get the information in order the make the decision? And you keep sticking by this “they are there to convict the guilty” line and don’t understand why you are writing in circles. They are there to render a verdict solely with information provided by both sides and allowed into deliberation by the judge.
I still can’t stop laughing that you truly said it doesn’t matter how the jury came to their decision… it’s too much. Enjoy high school little buddy,.
@Al I keep telling you I'm aware of how they get their information. I'm aware of how the court system works. I've literally been on jury duty.. twice.. I'm telling you, It doesn't matter how the jury came to their decision, because HER MURDERER IS FREE. Since her murderer is free, she wasn't given justice. Since she wasn't given justice, she was failed by those who were supposed to give her justice. You literally just said the jurors are "allowed into deliberation by the judge". What do you think they're doing in there? They're going over the case, then determining the outcome. THEY determine the outcome. Here's the definition of deliberation "Jury deliberation is the process by which a jury in a trial in court discusses in private the findings of the court and DECIDES WHICH ARGUMENT TO AGREE UPON. After receiving the jury instructions and hearing the final arguments, the jury retires to the jury room to begin deliberating." So, you can't refute the jury were the ones who gave her the not-guilty verdict, and can't refute Caylee's denial of justice after her murderer was given this verdict, so I don't understand why you're still even here. It's absolutely nonsensical to say Caylee wasn't failed, or let down, when her murderer wasn't convicted, regardless of whose fault it was. It's just as absurd as saying a jury doesn't convict those who are guilty.
@Ray oh god, still sticking with the jury convicts the guilty thing. Semantics is everything in this case, it’s again the basis of our legal system. The jury does not presume guilt and seek to confirm it, the jury listens to evidence and weighs whether there is sufficient proof or reasonable doubt to render a verdict on a person who is in a state of innocence in the courtroom until proven otherwise. You seem to not grasp semantics at all.
@Ray so you truly see no fault with the performance the prosecutor put in or the way the defense lawyer introduced reasonable doubt (if a jury has true reasonable doubt and acts against it they are breaking our laws despite how unfair you see it). It’s only the jury’s fault?
I don’t see any need to continue interacting with you. It’s pretty obvious you are just googling definitions and scrambling to form sentences with them, despite not understanding any of the interactions within the system.
@Al Why do you keep making all these unfounded accusations about me instead of addressing the points I've made? What am I googling? What don't I understand? You keep acting as if you're the arbiter of all things court related, without ever being on a jury, as you apparently aren't understanding of how a jury goes over information given to them.
You say, "If a jury has true reasonable doubt and acts against it they are breaking out laws". I ask you, WHERE DOES THAT REASONABLE DOUBT COME FROM?? It comes from the jurors, discussing the matter. All the jurors are are individuals with differing opinions. When presented with contradicting evidence, many of them will have different views and "what if" scenarios. Its up to them to converse, then agree on a single outcome. That outcome doesn't always reflect reality, though, but you still seem to think all the info presented to the jurors are facts, and they aren't there to determine whether or not the defendant or prosecutor are presenting false facts.
That logic is contradictory, though, because you've admitted multiple times, jurors do determine whether or not someone is guilty. "Despite how unfair you see it", those jurors were wrong when they "rendered a verdict solely with the information provided"(along with their own views when given contradictory evidence), and came to the conclusion Casey wasn't guilty, thereby letting Caylee down by not convicting her mother. How is this not the case? Where am I wrong? Stop attacking me ad hominem in order to cover up your ignorance. Justify your position, Al, and don't bring up irrelevant info again.
@vidura Tell your children that if your'e a parent if you're not tell your parents yourself If you know better learn to love people unlike Casey Dammit!
If she did murder Caylee then the jury did nothing wrong, the prosecution failed her. It's a tricky case, one very disturbed mother and two parents who have a questionable past but present well. Where did these sociopathic traits come from? we can't know but I regard everyone in this case with suspicion. The conspiracy's floating around about this are some of the only ones I will ever believe, there's a whole lot we'll never know. One thing I will definitely say though is that Casey never should have been allowed to keep her child
@ScoCon86 Plus the death penalty was on the table. A jury doesn't want to send an innocent person to death row, so even the slightest bit of doubt will shut down a guilty verdict. I think the prosecution was too comfortable and assumed it'd be a slam dunk.
@ScoCon86 How dare you treat anybody 'Mentally Challenged' when you're the only one who insults and attacks others in the first place? The underlying irony of your attitude is tremendous.
I saw a magazine talking about how she's a mother again today. I didn't look inside, just saw her on the cover and remembered this case. The magazine also used the picture that makes her look crazy.
It really baffles me how even though everything points at Casey (the smell of corpse in her car, not reporting her supposedly missing child for a month, being too calm despite the fact that her child is missing, lying about almost every detail she'd given, and the weird internet searches about suffocating someone) and yet she was deemed as not guilty. This case really leaves an unsettling feeling in my chest, especially on the fact that she's living a free life after what had happened.
It's because the prosecution went for premeditated murder charges. They just couldn't prove the case they were trying to make, but they had plenty of evidence for lesser charges. Unfortunately the jury did their jobs. For what the prosecution was charging, there was reasonable doubt.
@Liçá It has quite little to do with race, The difference between black and white conviction rates from trials can be accounted for by the fact that white people are more likely to afford a good lawyer. Of course there's reasons why this is and im not denying systemic racism affects black Americans because it does, If you think she got away simply because of her skin colour then you're likely wrong there, But if you are saying she got away because she's white and white people can generally afford better lawyers etc because of systemic issues you would be right, A lot of people seem to believe its simply because of skin colour though sadly, Which is incorrect.
Also, at the time of this happening, she didn't have a dime to her name. Which would say she paid her lawyer with sex. Read an article about a man going to interview her(she was staying with the lawyer who represented her)and as he approached he saw casey running out of the door naked. The article didn't really elaborate much more, but clearly sex was her money, or it seems.
@Tori Barnes She was skating on thin ice. The police were stupid not to pick up on zanny the nanny when she told police who had been watching her kid. What she did will be remembered when it comes to interrogation techs next time. It was clear Oj killed his wife and he still got away with it. Casey had some of the same lawyers that helped oj go free.
I've been in a retired police vehicle and the smell of death of a person killed in their patrol car was still there, no matter how much they tried to sterilize it it was still there. It always made me uncomfortable whenever I rode in that vehicle and that was before the history of the car. You can literally smell that someone was killed in it
@Sergio'S VeggieS for a pre-meditated murder charge? Yes there was enough doubt. They could have proved she did it, but they couldn't exactly prove that she planned it out. They built a case out of the wrong charge
@Jennifer Wirth I don't know if you've looked into everything about this case. This video doesn't show just how much evidence there was. Read the wiki on the case, there is tremendous evidence. I guess the talented lawyer convinced the jury there wasn't proof beyond reasonable doubt, but the definition of what is reasonable doubt seems to not be understood. It was not reasonable, at all, to doubt she murdered her child, premeditated. I fully disagree with you.
@Sergio'S VeggieS I went to high school with Casey. I lived nearby. We all knew everything about the case. The prosecution left a couple of holes that her defense attorney was able to fill with reasonable doubt. Even her looking up chloroform was argued away as Casey maybe wanting to make Caylee sleep. It didn't necessarily point to premeditated.
@Homunculus, first of all, she went away because they could not prove that she is guilty, because otherwise she would go to jail, about what you've been mentioned, if you are a black guy but there is a strong evidence that you are guilty, no one will help you even with a billion of dollars, but is you are not guilgy, than, you can make a case that sometimes you need someone to present yourself better than you do, BUT, this cases are VERY, VERY, VERY rare because you have to not be guilty (which is rare when you have acusations) than the police have to think that you are guilty (but there are profesionals and they are not stupid) which again it minimazes the equation, and then you have to not be abel to afford to take a lawyer in USA but bear in mind that UsA is a very rich country, where you have credit cards, you can borrow money, you have family, friends. So, in order to not be guilty and to go in jail, it happens but it is very, very, very rare, so, the question of Ben Shapiro stands up, why 13%of population(black people) are in charge of 50% of the criminal offence? Because they have no money for lawyers?? It does not make any sense. And, btw, there are a lot of countries in the world that they are not even close enough rich as Black people are from USA, what to say, that all those countries have people in jail because they have no money and they can't afford a good lawyer? That is not a good hypothesis at all.
@Nichita Samuel I'm not sure if what I said went through, so I'll say it again, your argument against Ben Shapiro's position is a strawman because he never uses the lawyer argument in regards to crime rates, but in regards to conviction rates for the same crime, so yes what you said does sense to you because it's a strawman position and miss characterisation of the argument, so it makes sense to you, but I nor him used that argument for crime rates but conviction rates, so it does make sense and is perfectly valid in that regard, as in the regard and situation it's was supposed to be used in, it feels awful to defend Ben shapiro because I myself am very left leaning, but you are incorrect here.
Does drowning in a pool not count as suffocation? If she wanted to hide her drowned child would that not make her car smell? What unsettling feeling? In both possibilities the same outcome happens with the same evidence. The only thing the defense had to do is pertain that, and they did so she walked. Don't blame the people, blame the system, but if the system was revised people would be blaming the exact opposite. After hundreds of years in this system, and thousands that shaped humanity, this is the answer we found. We need definitive proof. Its sad that all Casey had to do was wait enough time to cover up the suffocation due to lack of air, by stuffing her in a place where decomposition happens faster, so she could say it was suffocation due to water. It is plausible she was duct taped so Kaylee wouldn't leak up pool water while Casey was trying to transport the body to hide her death, but we know what it was. To save innocent people being locked up, we have to make sacrifices like this. There can't be any doubts, the easiest way to do it is with a confession but she smartened to it.
Casey is innocent. There's no physical evidence that she did something with Kaylee, she's just a congenital liar. Leave this poor woman alone she lost her child.
I have 10 minutes left and started reading the comments, I assumed she was going to be found guilty but to read that she is now free walking the streets is incredibly infuriating.
@Luc Gusmundson sometimes lawyers take up cases for publicity than money; this was a heavily publicized case. Even if he posted his billboard on every corner of city, it wouldn’t give him the same publicity
lol I wanted to be a lawyer when I was younger and that changed after I did more research plus I’d be scared if I put someone in jail and they come for me 😭🤚
@thatminer the fact that it pays his bills doesn’t make it less scummy. Selling fentanyl to jr high students is a job too, it’s just a slightly more noble one
If we had a lot of psycopaths on the top of society's hierarchy, just a few of us would still be alive: They would be killing people for no reason at all; Not for for profit or for whatever other benefit, just for no reason.
You have to provide the best defence you can otherwise the system doesn't work and justice is not merely difficult but impossible. Think of them like a guy who deals with sewage blockages or caring for the mentally ill.
@catladyJeez! Your answer is almost 100% disconnected from what I said
Try practicing some text interpretation: Read again your first comment in this comment section, then read my answer to that comment
First, I was talking about the lawyers, and not Casey. You said that the lawyers - and other people who make to the top of society's hierarchy - are psychopaths. I refuted that by saying they can only be sociopaths, because psycopaths would be killing people for no reason at all due to their insanity.
Second, you're stating that the difference between psychopaths and sociopaths is only about the origins of their behaviour, which is not true. There is also a big difference in the behaviour itself. The most recent video in this channel demonstrates how big that difference is: Psycopaths can commit the most horrendous crimes without having a reason and even without properly planning what to do after, because they are insane; Sociopaths will aways seek some benefit for themselves while committing crimes, which makes them rather sane people but also complete narcissists.
@Daniel sanchezaldana The odds are in your favor but they get smaller every day . One day they will be 0 and there will be no more chances to accept refuge from Gods wrath.
think about it this way, if she didn’t pay for A lawyer a lawyer would be provided to her by the government itself, what happened is vile and horrible but the legal system Believes in a fair trial for everyone which fucking bites when you know they’re guilty and the jury buys it that shit sucks to see.
@Luc Gusmundson Because it was a high-profile capital-punishment case. Her elite-lawyers very likely worked for free because they love these cases. It’s their equivalent of being on American-Idol-Lawyers-Edition after which they get book-deals, speaking-engagements, high-level clients who pay full-price, etc.
And so their potentially 500-dollar-an-hour salaries were ‘written off’ for this one and the likely at least 500,000 dollar bill was on-the-house. No charge.
You don't, and that is exactly why there is a court system and if you could 100% prove they were guilty, then that person sould lose their case. It's that simple. We can assume she's guilty and while she probably is, there wasnt enough evidence to prove without a shadow of a doubt that she murdered her daughter
@Zach We are not a society of angels, and we shouldn’t expect to live in one. Our justice system and monetary system aren’t perfect, but they do a lot of good. I for one am grateful that verdicts like this are relatively rare and that we can reasonably expect it to serve as bedrock for future improvements.
@Sharpe Everyone deserves the right to ask for a defence, but anyone who would be willing to defend a woman like this after looking at the evidence is pure evil.
They know that people will see this case, see how obviously guilty casey was and that the lawyer still got her off. Which means people will flock to this vile ass man to be on their defence. 🤑💰💸
US lawyers are supposed to give the best defense they can, even if they themselves know its bullshit. Everyone has a right to a good defense, thought I can understand the frustration, especially with cases like these.
The prosecution didn’t have enough physical evidence to convince the jury. I guarantee you nearly every one of them know in their hearts that Casey did it. But that’s not their job, their job is to decide the evidence disproves all possible scenarios except murder, which it didn’t unfortunately.
@Luke Cloudstrider I could see through all of the bullshit that was happening. They really need to IQ test the jury. Casey was full of it and so was the lawyer. I could tell he was talking down to the jury as well. I can't believe people can't see.
@Dixi E Normous Congratulations, so could the jury. Unfortunately they're not there to decide if the lawyer or even the defendant is full of shit. Every single one who's spoken about this case says they think she was probably guilty but the evidence wasn't there. People don't (or at least shouldn't) get sentenced to life or potentially the death penalty because people are "pretty sure" they did it. Better the guilty walk free than the innocent hang, as sickening as cases like this are.
@Nagassh tell me your theory then since you still believe she is innocent despite the hour and 40 minute video showing how heartless and cold blooded this "mother" Is. I would really hope someone would report you missing after an hour and not months when your body is decomposed. But I guess that would be alright with you.
@Dixi E Normous that’s not at all what they said, all they said is that it’s not the juries duty to decide what’s bullshit or not, it’s to see whether the evidence presented can prove beyond a reasonable doubt guilt, which they said multiple jurors have said they believed otherwise
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@Joe I know. I want to know why they believe she is innocent just like you believe so.
Many evidence that she does not care. The motive is she wanted to live a party life and would rather show her parents that her child was kidnapped so they would still love her. She was scared of her parents more than the consequences of a dead child. The defender only brought up molestation to emotionally control the jury. Looks like that lawyer can deceive even you.
@dustyak79 no lol I meant like who is “he” you referred to someone as “he” (he regrets...) I’m trying to figure who the “he” is. Is it the attorney that defended Casey?
@Dixi E Normous I don't think saying not guilty means innocence. It simply means that there isn't enough evidence to prove guilty. Searching on google is not evidence of murder, nor is a rotting smell in the car.
@SS The evidence is all of her lies compiled together to show her obvious guilt, her not reporting her missing, etc...they should have sought a confession too but how did they not find any physical evidence though? Did they search her car?
@Purple Heart FYI. In the court JUDGES and jury who convict, not State's authorities. All judges and prosecutors are INDOCTRINATED in Liberal/Socialist Universities.
The Jury's role is not to say if they think she is guilty or not, it's to say if the evidences and proofs are beyond any reasonable doubt... And saddly the lawyers were able to throw a veil of doubt on her guilt. The jury did their job. Her lawyers did a very questionnable move and it worked...
@Dixi E Normous I don't think anyone thinks she's innocent, I certainly don't, however unfortunately the jury couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she was guilty. Hopefully one day she'll pay for what she did but we can't blame the jury for doing their job with the evidence they were given.
@Lizy Blueeyes If you know, then how can you say that it's not beyond reasonable doubt... The fact she lied and didn't call the police for a month and clearly didn't care is enough to charge her. At least for neglegance for fucks sake. Not telling anyone for a month is the primer example of it. She was not charged just because she's a woman.
I hate that during her talk with her parents Her dad said “I wish I could’ve been a better father and grandfather” And Casey said “don't think that for a second Kailey HAS BEEN so lucky” and then she corrects herself and said “Kailey IS so lucky” Sick
I noticed the exact same thing! So strange that while the search was still going on, Casey subconsciously talked about her daughter in the past tense...
@Ryan Owens regardless if it's final past or not ( semantics) we both know she's guilty from your profile pic you appear to be a lawyer I presume not a very good one go figure
@Funtcase tuckfard nah, I'm a financial advisor. We all know she's guilty; but that statement is not necessarily the smoking gun that Emma thinks it is.
Defense: There's no evidence to prove that Casey killed Caylee. Also Defense: There's no evidence to prove that George sexually assaulted Caylee, but we want you to believe that this is the ONE time that Casey isn't lying through her teeth.
The defense's job is to defend their client. They are not allowed to do anything but defend their clients. If they had thrown this case and it came out later then they would lose their license. Justice was not served, but the system worked as the Founding Fathers intended. The state failed to prove guilt to the jury.
@StudleyDuderight They do have to defend their client but they also have ethical guidelines to follow. A flimsy child abuse story is riding that line pretty close. Defense lawyers are not allowed to knowingly lie in their client's defense.
@Travis C It isn't a lie if the client says it isn't. Lawyers' hands are tied because they can be disbarred if they do anything to intentionally hurt their client's case. If the lawyer was the one to come up the story then it would be a violation of ethics, but there is no way to prove or disprove that. The father could have taken a polygraph but those are not admissible as evidence, and you cannot force someone to take one.
The fact that she is walking free and trying to release a book, and a movie, and dating the private investigator that worked on her case just... blows my mind. I'm speechless, what a psychopath! Enough internet for today.
@Harshvardhan Kanthode Sometimes sociopaths are attracted to sociopaths. Even if they have a child on purpose, that child will be just a thing/accessory for them. There will be no love, attachment.
She was never a danger to society, and still isn't. Even if she had another kid with this investigator, I don't think she'd be a threat. While what she did is not excusable, I also don't think rotting in a jail cell using up tax dollars is ideal. There's been plenty of way worse criminals who get a second chance.
@Dom its not a matter of being a danger or not (which I personally think she is anyways). Its the fact that actions deserve consequences, no one should walk free after doing what she did
what the fr- ACTUALLY??!?!? I saw she was doing a movie but like... WHO AND WHY WOULD THEY JUST LET HER DO THIS STUFF?? SHE STRAIGHT UP MURDERED A CHILD. HER CHILD.
She is beautiful. Most men would have a go if they had a chance. They will never have a chance so they talk bad about her. She is a liar. Yes. Nobody knows if she is a murderer (Ok, she knows it and the real murderer, IF there is one, so 1-2 persons).
now why the fuck would the PI that worked her case do that- 💀 also a book AND a movie?!?!?! i hope nobody picks it up because thats so fucking fucked if they do
Who is the REAL Casey Anthony??? Does any body know? Is there any video or audio recordings that exist, showing the real person inside? Does her journal contain evidence of her real personality? Does SHE EVEN KNOW WHO SHE REALLY IS? Maybe she spent so many years hiding her sickness, that she forgot who she really is, the partying leads me to believe she spent a lot of time numbing her true feelings, and trying to escape her mediocre suburban existence...? Thats IMHO of course, but I'm very interested in the girl behind the mask, and why she couldn't face her real feelings? Did she have no outlet for her pain? She certainly wouldn't be alone in those feelings. Was it pure un-adulterated SELFISHNESS? That is an ugly thing to show people, I can only imagine a girl in her social circles of suburban conformity wouldn't find to many people who could relate, or who WANT to relate. And all this would be theoretical, and interesting, and basically okay IF...she hadn't either killed or neglected or ignored the fact that her innocent child is gone, wrapped in a Winnie the Pooh blanket at the bottom of a swamp with pieces of duct tape around her mouth and nose... And accuse your own father of molesting you... wow, unbelievable selfishness and cold, icy cold heart of darkness.
@Gage Oconnor I mean, I 100% think that she was guilty. But that quote doesn't necessarily prove that she is. I think it DOES show that she doesn't care even the slightest about her daughter's wellbeing, or even her family and friends' peace of mind. But I think she would respond that way whether she killed Caylee, or if someone else killed Caylee and she just didn't give a shit.
But yeah, that line was as cold and heartless as can be, and if I were in their position, I'd suspect her too. Judging from their questions then, and later when her parents were talking to her in the jail, I think they did.
@David HHL that's it in a nutshell.... like it or not that's what the jury system offers... While I can understand the emotional outrage and subsequent responses on here, the system has worked exactly how it was designed to. I'll ask anyone on here if they were in a similar situation where the system was somehow against them and did not follow the rule of law or procedure, would you be ok with overlooking any mistakes that led you to go to jail?
It’s because she’s irritated that people are caring about her missing daughter and not her being in jail. She doesn’t even acknowledge her daughters pain, a totally innocent soul and her own damn daughter. She’s disgusting, and now that she got away it fuels more of her belief of being able to lie about everything and get away with it. They did a great job. /s
@Sam Roberts her brother was super pissed when Casey, then their parents ( Casey lied to them about that to until she was, I think 7 months) didn’t tell him Casey was pregnant until she was few weeks from delivering
@Susanne Collins well thats exactly what im referring to...if it was a death penalty case or not, the evidence and arguments for and against the defence should be looked at dispassionately as far as is humanly possible... a lot of people are raising pitchforks.... I have no issue with that after all the evidence is considered in a proper manner and someone is found to be guilty
in most countries justice is considered to be blind
she killed her child, framed a person that doesn't exist, lied that her friend knows the babysitter that DOESN'T EXIST, lied where she worked, got away with murder and the thing that stuck with me is her saying "i look like hell"
@Shahnie None of you people provide any amount of evidence other than claiming "it's facts", all you can do is parrot what others say and come to outlandish means.
@The Fear Within so all her lies aren't evidence? Idk if your a parent but I am an if my child got kidnapped aint no way in hell I'm not calling the police. This ain't "Taken"
@Shahnie //That white privilege is so obvious.// What does race have to do with this? Is feeling entitled and being self-centered a trait of one race, or of human nature itself? Do you really think there have been no mothers lacking empathy who have killed their children from any other race? This is quite a prejudiced comment itself.
Idk how after first saying the babysitter was mixed then following up with black and whatever she thought of next prompted by the previous suggestion she still kept up the lie it IS SO OBVIOUS she’s just saying what she THINKS THEY WANT TO HEAR. RACIST MUCH.
Sorry but I think race and color haven't got much to do with this case she is just a cold calculated and manipulative murderer. As they said a true psychopath that feels little empathy but for there own self preservation.
@PREDATOREUS FILMS LOL Casey is a crazy person. Race is not all I think of love, just one of the many flawed facts of this case that allowed her to walk free.
Do elaborate how this is white privilege, please? And if race plays a part, would her gender play a part too? I'm not being racist or sexist here. But I'm genuinly intrigued why you think race is the primary reason why she got away.
Where is Casey Anthony now. January 1st 2021 Casey Anthony has filed documents to start a private investigation firm, according to Florida state records. The address listed for the company belongs to Patrick McKenna, according to Palm Beach County property records.
McKenna was the lead investigator on Anthony’s defense team during her 2011 trial.
In a 2017 interview, Anthony told The Associated Press that she had been working for McKenna doing online social media searches and other investigative work. McKenna was also the lead investigator for O.J. Simpson, when he was accused of killing his wife and acquitted
@034bloodas it wouldn't have been smart to blame it on a black person because they would have never stopped looking for evidence if they thought that a black person murdered an innocent young white girl
Also a strand of her daughter’s hair was found in the trunk of the car and through DNA testing, it was concluded the hair had fallen off of the scalp post-mortem. How the hell she didn’t get convicted with this is absolutely beyond me.
They choose jury members based on that. They don't want experienced or educated people. They was people who are easy to manipulate. That's one reason I've never been picked for jury duty.
The prosecution’s evidence didn’t prove her guilty of first degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt. They didn’t even have cause of death & time of death. It’s not about thinking she’s guilty it’s about the evidence proving she is.
SimpSity What the hell are you talking about?! So what if random peeps THINK she is guilty. The jury doesn’t have that luxury. In a court of law, jury looks at evidence presented and ONLY evidence presented. The Prosecution did NOT prove her guilt without a reasonable doubt.
Ghetto Soup sadly because of the nature of google searches it’s technically circumstantial evidence so even though it’s obvious why she was searching those terms, it doesn’t show the intent behind the searches only that she was searching. It’s kinda ridiculous but there are very rare cases where people are just coincidentally searching shit like that so they have to take it with a grain of salt
@Charity Dunning that is true, but your experience and education should mostly stay out of jury deliberation and the trial should be approached tabula Rasa
@Nebula the jury also when interviewed said they thought she was guilty, but it needs to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, so even 99% certainty is not enough to convict
@Marie Chambe the prosecution did not even make the case for neglect. They only brought evidence for murder. You can't convict for a case they never attempted to make, even if the charge is there
@aestheterita The jury simply fell for Mr Baez's stick. Don't let anger or emotion sway your opinion. Base it on facts. "Like my completely unsubstantiated / unproved statement that Casey's Dad molested her."
@ItsAlwaysRusty He is a demon. A gaslighting demon. He played to their egos, and checkmated them making them look like they were choosing the illogical route if they chose her to be guilty. Casey should be rotting in prison and the Jury is responsible for falling for the demon's court room magic tricks and mindfuckery. Awful.
@Zer0 Actually it's not the job of the defense attorney to lie to the court. He knows damn well what happened. It's his job to lessen the sentence, not to lie.
its not a question of jury stupidity. They need a body or an admission of guilt to convict; the evidence isn't strong enough to establish that she did it i guess
@El hurricane he literally just explained how a criminal trial works and what the prosecution did wrong in the trial. How exactly is he a fanboy of a child murderer?
@Justin Baker The whole jury system is stupid and obsolete. Theatrics and acting should not be what decides on whether justice will be served. How many uncharismatic innocent people were convicted in bogus cases? How many well-spoken psychopaths were let free based on their rhetoric?
@aestheterita and as mean as this sounds, I hope they do feel guilty every day of the rest of their lives. Because of their stupidity that child's murder will not be vindicated. She will get no justice. Poor innocent baby. I hope Casey Anthony has the most miserable existence for the rest of her days, then goes on to the fieriest pit of Hell.
@Rachel Tydlacka there's a lot of people who are fanboys and are in love with a child murderer. According to what I've read, the jury was afraid to find her guilty, even though they believed she was guilty.
It's not the justice system here, the jury just was weak.
@Totallynotkyubey it's one thing to be uncharismatic during a trial. It's quite the difference from showing ZERO CONCERN that her child is "missing". As in the video they showed of her shopping for a movie with her boyfriend at Blockbuster during the time her daughter was supposedly missing. But of course she wasn't concerned... she already knew she was dead because she killed her. You need not have to go on emotion to have seen that this woman is guilty. The evidence was all there. Prosecution just sucks. I hope they all lost their jobs. Not to mention the jury was a bunch of single-cell organisms.
I watched every available juror interview and not ONE of them struck me as even remotely competent or intelligent. It was immediately made clear to me how they could ignore so much evidence and fall for Casey's lies and her defense team's manipulation. People like to say "the prosecution failed Caylee" but after seeing the interviews I'm now of the belief that it never actually mattered how well the prosecution presented their case, because the IDIOTS on the jury would've found a way to write it all off as "just speculation". As one youtube comment joked, Casey could've written "Today I killed my daughter" in her diary and the jury still would've said "This could mean anything really". Yes, they are THAT stupid!
@Lola DewClaw Yeah I agree except the dude is paid to do that and he kinda has to defend her. He's just good at his job. You can't blame it on him, it was the jury throwing
@Justin Baker aestheterita said "I read a statement that said that 10 years later some of the jurors came forward and said they felt guilty about not convicting her." Also the jury literally threw. If you really think there is a chance she is not guilty then I don't know what to say.
The dude just was amazing at his job and the jury weren't.
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Michael Neas2021-07-28 21:22:09 (edited 2021-07-28 21:22:52 )
@Justin Baker that would be a good point if there was any plausible doubt. There was no doubt of her guilt. None. People have been rightfully convicted on less. Most people are convicted on circumstantial evidence.
The prosecution did make a mistake. They shouldn't have required for the death penalty with only circumstancial evidences. Of course the jury felt guilty at the idea of sentencing a potentially innocent (read: I DO NOT believe AT ALL that she's innocent, but yknow "innocent until proven guilty" and the prosecution's job is supposedly to prove without a reasonable doubt that she's guilty, which they failed at) young, pretty, 20 something young woman, to death (and yes I can acknowledge that in the case of Casey Anthony, being an attractive woman is a privilege in these circumstances: had she been a man, she would have been convicted). She would have gotten life in prison if the prosecution had gone for that, but noooooo, of course they went around and chased for the death penalty even tho they had white shark Baez in front of them, and so little forensic evidence, and a murderer who felt no shame or remorse for what she did (not to mention, her stupid mother lying for her). Of course the whole defense strategy was dirty asf ; it's baffling to imagine that any jury would believe anything Baez would pull out of his @ss every two days to bounce back up. It's horrid to imagine a daughter like Casey, accusing her father of molesting her when it's so clearly untrue and just a stupid strategy to make herself look like the victim. But yeah, there was nothing to convict her to death on that. Baez is dirty through and through, since the trial, it's been put out there that Casey was paying him with sexual services, and that he knew months prior where Caylee's body was because Casey had told him, but he didn't report it to the authorities to save Casey's sorry excuse for a human's @ss. One thing I'll never understand tho, is how she was acquitted of all charges when there def was some child neglect in the fact that she hadn't reported her child being missing for 31 days. On that, we can claim that the jurors were stupid.
@Justin Bakeryou would have had a fair argument had you not started with an insult. no one here is stupid at all. even the jurors regretted their decisions and know they got played. the defense was weak. sure they don’t have to prove her innocence but what baez did was a big theatrical waste of time.
The concept of a fair trial is at the core of any functioning justice system. The jury did a good job because they remained impartial. Prosecution and police on the other hand did not, as they rushed into the trial with too much confidence, assuming that they actually had the opportunity to do better.
@Wizard exactly it’s his job to lessen a sentence or get rid of a sentence all together so u can lie but u would have to be good at it’s all lawyers do this not just this single man
I read somewhere long ago that a few of the jurors did not even have GED’s at the time. It’s like, where do we draw the line about who is gonna help with the outcome of the decisions? Saddest shit ever.
@some guy Bullshit! The lawyer does not have to defend her, he could have just told her that he was uncomfortable taking the case on. I had a lawyer myself do that in my dui case (mind you nobody was harmed, and I have been clean of opiates for over 10 years). If you go to different defense attorneys you and the lawyer should both want to choose each other. And any client, or lawyer can decide to choose different options.
@Justin Baker That is why it is so important to have a private attorney who would work for you and is good at what he is doing because 97% of the defendant would take the plea deals even many who are innocent got scared and took the plea; because the prosecutors' case most of the time have loopholes that bright attorney would be able to defend their clients. It is not the attorney's job to cast judgment on whether you are guilty or not the only job is to defend the defendant as best as he could and he did a great job.
I loved that bit when the alleged male coworker takes the stand and straight up shot down her lies. "Nah fam, we never worked together, and i've never lived out of this state" 😂
Casey: "we met in 2004 in the Himalayas, his social security number is 000-00-0000, he's lived in Orlando for the last 5 years, but lived in Chicago growing up, attended Northwest, has a degree in early childhood psychology, is a member of the greater Chicagoland Ragtime Preservation Society, collects rare stamps, and consults with the National Archives as a contract advisor every other month.
Casey: I don't have it on me but I wrote it down in my journal that survive the Hiroshima bombing of ww2 after being returned from Mars by alien life outside our planet. Alien life that I also met in the Himalayas who likes grilled chicken. But no, I don't have the number.
Casey: He will leave a comment on a YouTube documentary type video of how I can make up the most in depth lies on someones backstory and how they are lifelong friends yet I dont have their numbers or any means to remain in contact with them.
Detective:.....tha....that's incredible, how in the hell did I never put those things together lik....wait.. it hasnt happened yet?
Casey: no, it happens when a man with dementia runs the country
There's more narcissists out there than we could imagine man.. it's fucking scary. I've been taken advantage myself of one. Thought she loved me but she was using me.
my ex used to lie just like this, its fucking scary. Made up stories, events, using people in a lie that don't exist or don't have anything to do with it. Detailed lies off the tongue. I swear I was so scared to find out she was lying.
My aunt is like her, she's a drug addict and she had kids until her body was too diseased to hold anything in her uterus. I feel so horrible for my cousins... They have so much trauma from her that they'll have to recover from
My ex girflfriend was just the same sociopath and pathological liar just like her. They even have the same expression on their face, same methods and everything...
She’s not scary, she’s a coward and child herself. The parents failed to get the lying in check along time ago and not saying it’s 100% the parents fault but everyone is at fault here in the family. Casey murdered that child, I’ve said it since day 1 of hearing this case and still believe it. People like that are only scary to people that are smaller than them and people they know will take the abuse.
Just joining the chorus here. I know TWO people just like her. Pathological liars and narcissists. They do their best to destroy every person they touch, and sometimes succeed.
Don't try to fix people like this. IMO you can't. Even if possible the cost to you would be WAY too high. Just disappear from their lives. Be uninteresting and give them nothing. It's the best way to protect yourself.
You ain't lyin. There are numbers of folks with similar psychopathologies, but have not experienced the type of setting or situation to trigger their psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies into action. It's a selfishness or blunt presentation of emotion that most of us are unable to understand.
It's like the movie "unbreakable". He doesn't realise he has powers until he's put into all those situations. There are many scary psychopaths like Casey who haven't been tested yet and live among us.
This was me at one point, but not to this crappy extent. It's a good thing I know now so I can grow up from these tendencies. I was a bit of a narcissist as well
With how she acts, it really would not be a surprise if that was actually the reason... An explanation for why she so obviously named the nanny after a medication
No bc she wants mom and dad to think shes a good mom. By bringing the kid to them so she can party makes her look bad I mean I agree with you but I bet that was her thinking
@John Smith because she wants her parents to think she has everything under control and doesn’t need their help. It’s obvious she wanted to be independent. Now why she decided to have a kid is my question
@John Smith not entirely true. Abortions were not at all difficult to obtain at the time of Casey’s pregnancy. I suspect, she went through with the pregnancy because she enjoyed the attention she got while pregnant. She had her daughter, the attention switched from her to the baby and she realized she didn’t like being a parent and felt that Caylee cramped her lifestyle.
@vinny strobel it truly was all about how people saw her. The reason she lied about everything makes so much sense when you realize that. Piece of shit human. Someone semi-decent would’ve just given the baby to the grandparents.
Child abuse and endangerment were never mentioned in that case. Intended murder versus accidental ? If accidental, we would have seen remorse or sadness in Cayse Anthony . None of it was there. She was afraid to spend the rest of her life in jail or to get the death penalty which was on the table. She did not care about the lost child or her parents. Typical psychopaths do not care about anyone ; they like their persona pleasures, at any cost......
@vinny strobel yup, heard this young parent dosed their kid to party on weekends since she had no babysitter, but idk if it’s true or not. Only that my friend was out a this person who said so. Their circle is young party parents tho so I believe it
@John Smith She was milking her parents for money and they would’ve asked questions about where she was going, how long she would be gone, and then she’d have to see them after driving drunk and high etc.. She would have to be accountable and actually take the time to call, make arrangements for them to watch Caylee and then drop her off and pick her up. They’d be asking questions about her daughter’s care like, whether or when she’d been fed or what time she slept. Children need schedules and consistency. Casee wanted to duck responsibility. She didn’t want anyone questioning her.
It boggles my mind that the jury came back with a "not guilty" verdict. Justice was not served here. They let a baby killer WALK. But alas, she'll never be free in the public eye. So at least theres that.
Shit is beyond fucked it’s like any one person could be like “oh yeah she definitely did it” but the system as a whole is just like “nah dude” and then she comes out about wanting to have another child. Like why?
@cmiller8492 There was an article recently, like within the past year, that was saying Casey was complaining cuz she couldnt get a real job and no one would hire her. She still has to fill out those apps with her name. I think once people see that and then her face, they know. I would think itd be hard to forget a baby killer.
@Lonnie Thomas Possibly. However, I think they were right in charging her with first degree. From all the evidence released and everything we have seen, definitely seems premeditated. The google search, the duct tape on Caylees mouth and nose, the clear lack of remorse after the fact, etc. I also found a video here on youtube that has Marcia Clark investigating as to why they decided on not guilty and I guess all the evidence wasn't presented in court?! And they had people on the stand that didnt know what they were doing or talking about and I guess that gave enough doubt for the jurors? Idk tho, I'd say that they were able to provide enough evidence and show Casey's constant lies to be able to provide a guilty verdict. Maybe if they had added both first and second degree charges they would've gotten it but idk if they are even able to do that. Upsetting nonetheless!
@Crazy Diamond 💎 the issue is the prosecution thought they had a slam dunk and phoned in the evidence thats how she got off also so much time had passed i am sure any other evidence collected would have gotten zoomed by the defense
@Rampen she seems pretty narcissistic, at least to me. Would she even think about doing that? Edit: she hasnt done it yet and its been how long? Wouldn't she have done that by now?
@Crazy Diamond 💎 Yea, about that. She did. IDK if she still does but she did for a while after the verdict. He also paid for plastique surgery afterwords. It was obvious they were bumping fuzzies during the trial too.
Ryan S2020-08-02 22:23:23 (edited 2020-08-02 22:25:22 )
@Crazy Diamond 💎 it's always about that. Prosecutors MUST consider what charge is convictable... Or you run the risk of walking.
In this case, there was a very serious lack of actual physical evidence to prove she did it. And all the defense has to prove is a reasonable doubt, not that she didn't commit the crime. Just that it's possible that she did not.
The risk of imprisoning innocent people must be the number one precaution in justice. And with that ultimate importance..... we will have these occasions where people walk.
Crazy Diamond 💎 This reminds me of Karla Homolka hooking up with her attorney’s brother and having children with him. Casey and Karla two extremely messed up people. Casey has a huge skull and what appears to me male collarbones. Something tells me there’s far more to this story than we will ever know.
@Crazy Diamond 💎 she's different again. Like the Lori Vallow case? She reminds me of a grown Casey. Same manner. Same detachment from everyone else and lies, lies lies. Lori was a bit better at it as she was not living at home and had to get by in the world on her bs.
It's sociopathy but they almost deserve another sub category. It's just strange to watch.
Yo but its like he said only .3% of the cases are put in the lime light.. Im sure there are worse things but they also filter it. No one is going to tell you about a woman eating her baby for example 😂 because no one would notice.
@axollot lori vallow, oh dont get me started on that one and her brother. Both serial killers in my opinion. Omg those poor kids. Awful what happened, especially when charles begged the police to listen to him.
@Crazy Diamond 💎 Negative i dont think her look gives her away now. To much time has passed! BUT almost every employer googles the names of new workers. Thats giving her away.
I’m just shocked that she was able to get away with killing her child, lying constantly, and saying her daddy touched her. Even with all the evidence, presented people can still be persuaded by a snake of an attorney. It’s sad and unjust. If I were the parents, I wouldn’t have anything to do with her again. She wants to live a wild and free life, so be it. But you won’t be part of my life. RIP, little one...
people are not free to think. You 're so wrong if you think that way. We believe we are free but we aren't.
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Nick Schweiss2021-06-05 21:58:09 (edited 2021-06-05 21:58:35 )
@Giga_Plays he did exactly what he was supposed to do. Defense attorneys do not defend people. They defend people's rights to fair and equal trials, overstepping by prosecutors and investigators, and ensure that crimes are met with appropriate punishments. His job is to take whatever her side of the story is and make it appease legal and courtroom formalities and develop strategies to ensure her side is heard and understood. I'm sure he'd love to imagine everyone he defends is innocent, but that's simply not a part of his duty as a lawyer. I'm sure he'd love to lock this sick fuck up, but that's not his decision to make.
that's how Jury trials are, they can go really sideways. The pressure of being in a room with yelling for hours at a time and then a need to find her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Our justice system is built to intentionally skew verdicts so that we release guilty people more than we jail innocent people. These days, with what's been done to the constitution, that isn't always the case but it was the original structure of the courts.
There was no evidence she killed her child. Only evidence she lied to police, which she was charged for, and that she most likely attempted to hide the body. But how we got from alive child to dead child, there was no proof of her involvement.
@Marko Bighead there was the pretty damning google searches, altho that was only discovered after her trial i think. that's definitely more than "no proof of her involvement"
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Matthew Griffin2021-06-06 00:09:49 (edited 2021-06-06 00:11:16 )
I blame the jury for being stupid/complaisant enough to render a not guilty verdict. What's in the water down in Florida?
@tastyham no. He was given the certain information, and if he did not perform his job correctly he would be fired, sued, and could be stripped of his ability to practice law. If Casey said to him "I killed my child" then he could have done something, but she never confessed to them. He took the information he was given and did his job with said information. I'm sure he regrets it but that's the problem with being an attorney. It doesnt matter who you defend, you have to defend them to the best of your ability and without personal judgement, or else you'll lose your job and tarnish your reputation.
@Marko Bighead She looked up on how to suffocate a child and wrote in her journal that she made the best decision in her life and was so happy when her child was missing. She made up people and never reported her child missing while living the life. There is plenty of evidence that she premeditated and was non-remorseful in her child's death. It's not uncommon for women to kill their children to date a man or live their lives how they want.
@DigitalResurrection All circumstantial. There is no evidence she killed her child. Where there is no proof, there is no guilty verdict. It's not what you know, or what happened, it's what you can prove in court.
@DigitalResurrection No, it doesn't. There isn't even any consensus on how her child died, let alone who did it. And it obviously isn't damming if it didn't damn her in the end. I'm not debating what she did or didn't get away with, or what actually happened or questioning her moral character. I'm stating the fact that there was no evidence that she killed her child and a jury of her peers agrees. If you were to openly declare what you are in a documented public forum, you could rightfully be sued for libel. Did she lie to police? Yes, and she was charged. Did she, at one point, possess her child's body in an attempt to hide it? Yes, forensic evidence proves it. Does she care about her child? No, her behaviour demonstrates this. How did her child die? We don't know. Did she kill her child? There's no evidence that definitively proves that she did. And that's all that matters in a court room.
@Marko Bighead Not all the evidence was presented during the trial. And that was a failure. Duck tape does not equal pool drowning. She killed that little girl.
@Marko Bighead so if I do research on how to kill my daughter (that just happens to be exactly the way she died), have all the items I need to do it and that are later found with the body, there is clear evidence of me hiding her corpse, there is overwhelming evidence of me avoiding law enforcement or doing anything that could help solve the case, even misleading them and contradicting myself, I go partying for a month, having fun and caring less about her death than my friends, I was literally the only person with her when she died and I have a history of being a manipulative, compulsive liar to get away with living my life how I want. I can just get away by saying that she died in an accidental manner with no proof whatsoever and months after being interrogated multiple times? I understand that there is no concrete evidence of the actual moment of the murder, but there is a monumental amount of evidence before and after "it" pointing towards her, when in opposition her claim of it being an accident has none and it just goes through some mental gymnastics to try and justify her nonchalant reaction by claiming that (idk if with any real evidence)she was molested as a kid. The sistem is fucked
@Giga_Plays What you're saying in this particular case really isnt making sense. What did he do that was "bad?" That just sounds really infantile, hes a lawyer that's what they do.. he didnt kill the kid and hide the remains, also we have a right to council so they have to defend their clients anyway. So is right to private or public council for EVERYBODY a "bad" thing also? What about the jury, their verdicts determined the outcome not just her council.
@tastyham He should go to jail huh? Thank christ people like you aren't in any position to imprison anybody on your whim. Hes just a silver tongued lawyer, just because you don't like the outcome isnt a valid reason to imprison people genius. What about the damn jury? It's their verdicts that determine the actual outcome, it's not up to the lawyers entirely lol.. do any of you know how this works?
@Marko Bighead Also, I understand she was not guilty in the court of law. I also understand her attorney did his job and saved her ass. She is free, which I understand, but I think she does not deserve freedom. Her trial was not based on evidence because if it was she would be guilty. The jury messed up in this case.
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L k2021-06-06 09:24:32 (edited 2021-06-06 09:25:10 )
@Fabiana Moura Sometimes I am this way and could never see myself trying to defend a criminal. But also, I read about cases like these I always find myself playing devils advocate, I don’t know why, I think what they did or what they are accused of doing is disgusting but I still ponder the idea of defending them or finding innocence in them.🤷♀️😑 let me go talk to a psychiatrist real quick.
Casey Anthony is currently (2020) living with the investigator who worked her case.....they live in south Florida. Talk about a guilty woman and the corrupt man that helped her get off.
@Tyler Durden Defense investigator. Just want to make that clear, since I just did a search wondering how one of the policemen investigating her would ever live with this monster.
@Tyler Durden it was a defense PI. Someone who got her off the charges. Where do the live? Not to far from where Epstein stayed. They're really lenient on child abusers over there.
And why no water in lungs, I'm so mad with Justice system it stinks and blaming her father when they stuck by her, RIP caycee in the arms of Jesus,suffer the little ones to come unto him xx blessed child xx
I remember following the case when it was on TV.. there was a smiley face sticker on caylees lips or something like that under the duct tape. Also.. That's the way the law works.. As a juror you have to believe beyond a reasonable doubt she murdered her daughter.. There was evidence she was feeding her daughter xanex so she would pass out and Casey would go out and party. She may have died from an overdose. Either way.. The jury has to follow the letter of the law..
@Auxik then why didn't they find her guilty of child abuse? Whether she drowned in a pool, overdosed on Xanax, or was suffocated by the duct tape, the mother clearly abused her and hid what happened to her.
The suffocation was merely an example, what "could have happened". The true facts regarding the death are not known. It's likely that during the case, the defense mentioned many other possible deaths that "could have" occured, such as choking on food or perhaps a piece of plastic.
croco pix The prosecution did not even submit that into evidence purposely because it didn’t fit into the timeline of which they were presenting how n when she did it, so it would back fired on them to use that. As well as they could not prove that she did the search on the computer, it was the families computer that her mom n dad used also, so again something that would have only been speculation.
Threewulphmoon The whole defense strategy with drowning was to put it off on the father doing it accidentally on his watch then with the family always had their own secrets, so by duct tape and dumping of her body covered for George Casey’s father supposedly being responsible for her death. It basically was the defenses way to clear Casey of having doing it and her parents making her keep secrets supposedly which is why they claimed her ( Casey ) father molested her when she was young to try to create any kind of doubt and could have said the father did those searches on the computer also if the prosecution submitted that into evidence which they did not use anyways.
The problem with the case being as widely publicized as it was is that it was already clear to the vast majority of Americans what had happened, and people had already drawn the conclusion that she was guilty. Those that had drawn these conclusions already will have been removed from consideration as a juror; the remaining jurors aren't likely to be convinced of her guilt even with all of the facts being reported.
I've been on a jury and I understand what you're saying. I watched a case and thought it was a slam dunk by the time deliberation came. Low and behold 3 jurors didn't see it the same way as the rest of us. I had to wonder if they were asleep or something. Needless to say it made things tense in that room. I think people watch too much CSI and I learned it is very difficult to convince a majority of people of anything ( that and the average person really isn't all that sharp).
@Kim Bryan so it's okay to lie? isn't that perjury? 'she did die that day, she drowned in the family pool' something that doesn't jive with a hysterical grandmother calling 911 because her daughter 'finally admitted' the girl was 'missing'
@croco pix The horrible smell on her car and her diary words saying that she was sure she did "the right thing", don't forget those, they are really important too.
Most of the time it's the judge fault, who tell to the jury to don't consider. This or that answer caused of this or that reason. You know when there's an objection.
@RANDY WASSUM hey man, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, but you need to have a break from the internet. Just do a week or two and see how you feel. It's probably true for me as well. This all exists beyond us, yet it demands so much of our time.
i wanna give christina a huge hug, she deserves better people to be around "if anything hapens to caylee, i'll die" "youre a HUGE waste" what a horrible fucking friend
I know, right?! That broke my heart. Her best friend loved that little girl so much and yet the child's MOTHER responds with irritation and impatience??? All she cared about was talking to her boyfriend.... fucking incredible how cold she is.
Yes, reminds me of what I would say to my best friend or she would say to me. My best friend of 16 years, her children are my babies, too, And vice/versus with my son to my best friend. I felt awful the way Casey spoke to her best friend. She didn’t cry once, and it crushed her best friend knowing her niece was missing. Yes, niece. Because that is family.
If it was a jury trial in some states that can be tricky as I read that if a defendant ask for a "jury trial" as opposed to "a trial by a jury of his/ her peers" that at the end of the trial the judge actually makes the final decision? Our Justice system is corrupt for a reason and in the end it's a business and businesses are out to make money! Welcome to the United States Corporation of America LLC. The District of Columbia,London England + The Vatican ultimately control everything in this world.
Exactly...how does a little girl who supposedly drowned in a pool wind up in a laundry bag, wrapped in a blanket with duct tape over her nose and mouth at the bottom of a swamp? please explain this to me.....Anyone?????? How is this a closed case? WTF!??
He also contradicts himself by saying the only question unanswered was how Caylee died at the end of the case even though he says that she drowned lol.
@Al It seems a little odd I agree and most importantly, extremely relevant to the case in regards to the intention.. If she did it, it most assuredly shows a deliberate criminal intent and if someone else did then who are 'they' and why aren't they being implicated in this? It's just fkn weird and incredibly suspect. There are sooo many cases at the moment that just don't add up where people are just literally getting away with murder and a variety of other serious offences and it really doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy inside if you know what I mean? Another great example of court cases that don't add up is this whole Johnny Depp incident of supposed abuse....What the hell is going on with the justice systems of the world at the moment?
@Single Sucks but...not just limited o 'bad' police work. This whole case is pretty poor all round if you ask me. Was the 'fact' that the girl's body was discovered at the bottom of a swamp in the state it was found not considered evidence? Makes no goddamn sense..
they body was decomposed so they couldnt have found water in an autopsy (i think, im not an expert) and she got away with the tape because it followed the story casey made (that the nany kidnapped her daughter and killed her, not the mother) and she was set free because it was an accident and she made all that lies to so people wouldn't suspect her in my pinion and i think everyone's opinion the justice's dicision was way wrong and she must have been in prison (but objectively her lawyer is really good at his job)
reasonable doubt no evidence she did it it's all points to her but what puts her there ?? cant convict on speculation I think she guilty af but watched trial prosecution didnt prove it
@vas ok but literally they had that guy as a witness saying the nanny never existed and he never introduce Casey to anyone, how did they still believe that when they've already gone over how every person she mentioned was either fictional, or have been out the picture for years?
@A person well she lied and made up all these stories and we can all agree that she is a pathological liar But they didn't have enough evidence (for example a fingerprint), all they had were speculations and of course she was the main suspect. That itself can not put a person in jail.
@A person they knew nanny didn't exist but the tape was part of her story (that the nanny killed the kid) When they said that it was an accident and the baby drowned as part of the new story she put tape over her daughter's mouth to follow the previous story Sorry i don't know if what im typing is making sense, i hope u get what im saying ALSO her lawyer was really good ( it looked like an episode of how to get away with merder) and the police's lawyer didn't insist on some topics, he could have done a better job
The job of the jury is to make a verdict based on the defense and how well they prove reasonable doubt right? Correct me if I’m wrong please.... but in the jury’s mind there was reasonable doubt which resulted in a non guilty verdict.
The jury didn't acquit her based on believing her alternate explanation of how Caylee died. They acquitted her because they didn't believe the state presented enough physical evidence to link her to Caylee's death.
And her search history! "Suffocation and foolproof suffocation." I swear those jurors are stupid. I hate the justice system, whoever wins is based on who can write a better fucking speech
good old feminism, 'believeher'. the western justice systems all run by feminists principles when a woman is accused, punishing women murderers and child rapists is somehow wrong.. reject feminism if you'd like to see sociopaths like this be punished.
Richard Allen True, because even if her daughter did accidentally drown (which I do not believe) how could she be ok with her child being left in a swamp etc.
The jury said the duct tape wasn't over the mouth and nose. The prosecution stretched a lot of things to make them fit the case, which made it very easy for the defense to cast doubt. Somehow no one questioned how 12 jurors plus at least 2 alternates (who gave interviews) all said the duct tape wasn't over the mouth and nose. We're all sitting here insisting it was there despite the fact that they've seen the photos and we haven't. Chances are they're telling the truth and the prosecution was reaching.
If you watch the complete opening argument of the defense, it makes sense. This duct tape was a special kind of duct tape with a logo on it. The father has reported a fuel can missing a day or two after the child died. Turned out this can had the exact same kind of duct tape on it. Then later, as Casey was already in jail, his father was spreading these flies about the missing girl and gave an interview to two news stations. They spot the exact same duct tape on a donation jar behind him. So the defense pretty much convinced the jury that if anyone, it was the father who put duct tape on the child's face.
@András Ziegenham I suspect it has more to do with his weird behavior regarding the duct tape on the stand than all of that. I mean, we know that probably everyone in the family had access to the duct tape. But then he gets on the stand and as soon as Baez started questioning, he started hemming and hawing about putting duct tape on the cans (even though he just testified about doing so for the prosecution), tried to pretend like he couldn't understand any of the questions, claimed the duct tape was a different piece of duct tape than he put on, claimed he didn't touch the cans at all during that time frame and has no idea how the duct tape got on there, claimed he didn't mow the lawn for weeks on end for no reason, claimed there were two other gas cans (that don't exist) so he could explain why he didn't touch the gas cans.
Then when they questioned the family on burial practices, both cindy and Lee had vivid memories of how they buried their pets and it was strikingly similar to how Caylee's remains were wrapped. Everyone but George seems to remember George burying all the pets using this same ritual. George has zero memory of burying a single pet or using tape on the pets remains. It was super weird. Everyone gave the jurors crap for thinking he could be involved, but he gave them more than enough to come to that conclusion.
@Shimmer You've completely ignored everything I've said and responded with a dumb hashtag. Then responded to my hashtag by saying the exact same thing that I was originally replying to. Yeah. I'm weak.
@András Ziegenham Say what you want. I do have a brain. Also have enough sense to know that Casey Anthony sacrificed her daughter. She clearly killed her and lied about it.
The way the detectives are interviewing her, I don’t know how she remained so calm I would be freaking out. If she didn’t want her daughter she should gave her to her parents. Instead of killing her.
@Loma patel to me it is obvious she is having a blast. She is living her one real life crime tv show and is so confident that she has everything under control. So sad that people are blinded by her and asks no questions. Perhaps if she were less pretty, they would have thought otherwise. Good looking people get away with more shit, it is actually really disturbing
@Matt Falls she isn't, you can tell that she is lying because shit doesn't add up, nobody in their right mind would act like she did. she is a pathological liar that doesn't know when to stop. her story seems like she didn't even try and that she makes up things as she talks
@Tobias Fünke that’s his job, if he didn’t try his best to defend her then she wouldn’t have been given a fair trial and if she was found guilty she’d probably be released cuz the trial would be worthless. If anything you should blame the Jury who found her “not guilty”.
@Sabeel Rehman unfortunately even blaming them is wrong if they truly thought it wasn't "beyond a reasonable doubt"... if there is any slim chance that someone MAY be innocent, even SLIM, 1 percent, you are supposed to find them not guilty. people not following that puts innocent people in jail.
Life is short and everything has an end. On the day of judgment, she will see herself on tape doing her crime with all evidence and will surely receive the punishment that she deserves along with her lying lawyer. Allah sees and hears everything, He is Just in His ruling.
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Anna Allen2021-08-28 22:15:44 (edited 2021-08-28 22:24:24 )
I mean, that's his Job and he is very, very good at his job. I think a huge part of the reason she got off was because the jury did not think whatever evidence they had was good enough. I read somewhere that part of this had to do with the CSI shows that were so popular around this time. They expected to have cold hard evidence that could not be argued but most of the time, that's just on TV and the movies. That coupled with this very brilliant charming lawyer made her a free woman.
@Tobias Fünke not a psychopath but this is his job im not with the murder or anything but people search for the best lawyers with exorbitant money to defend them and not to stand against them Do not blame the lawyer but the murderer
It is funny, because he was the lawyer that helped Hernandez, the futebol player that killed more than one person. He is a great lawyer, but Hernandez was guilty as well, so I don’t respect Baez at all.
@Villanous Spyder that wasn‘t the point. The point was that we don‘t need to defend the lawyer for „doing his job“ if he‘s lying and helping a murderer roam free
there’s an article on why they voted that way, and after reading it I do understand. that doesn’t change that this was mishandled and just an all around shit case
@Bree Rowe ah, it's all too tragic, sometimes there really is no justice, I hope it weighs on her her whole life but I'm sure she isn't the type to care about anything but herself anyway. Thanks for the links
@Bree Rowe Perfect example from you link on the jury's reasoning, albeit should have been manslaughter at the very least, to compare with the clear overcharges and unjust verdict on Derek Chauvin due to the massive sensationalism from media misinformation.
@Truth Be Told Derek deserves the chair. I don't believe in capital punishment but if the cap fits then use it. He was literally, factually and undeniably recorded killing that man.
@Jamie Conlon apparently she's completely moved on and is out dating around, partying, etc. I think it's safe to say she does not have a conscience at all
Do you understand nothing about how the criminal justice system works? Of course everyone on that jury thought she was guilty. But you dont convict someone based on your feelings. Its the burden of the state to prove their case to the exclusion of any other plausible explanations. They failed to do that. If I was on that jury I would have ruled the same way I'm sure and I would have been pissed at the failure of the state in forcing me to do that.
@juul cat you do realize that that was a toxicology report and doesn't even mention a cause of death? there is no autopsy that says it was an overdose..... infact they all say otherwise.. watch the damn trial where FACTS were presented. derek killed floyd
@juul cat "Covid, drugs and heart problems killed everyone else but this guy?" Uhh, no? Who said that? The fact it increases your chances of dying doesn't mean you always die when given the circumstances... knowing how common they are, I'm sure there's plenty of people with heart problems who have passed COVID-19 while on drugs that are still alive and kicking. Besides, even assuming anything you said was true, it doesn't in the slightest way justify putting his leg on his neck, let alone keeping it there when clearly told by an unarmed person who was only arrested because of a supposedly fake $20 bill that they couldn't breathe.
@Marc Taylor I honestly dont know how anyone can come to that conclusion. If you watched the entire 25+ mins of the stop, which I'm absolutely positive you did not, Floyd was complaining about not being able to breath while handcuffed in the back of the squad car with not a soul touching him. He was acting that way because he was currently overdosing on the narcotics he ingested to dispose of when he got stopped. There was nothing overly aggressive about the cops actions, zero animosity. Literally routine procedures that were taught to him by his superiors. Procedures that are routine all across the nation. You literally cant claim he murdered him in the first degree, that is absurd. Manslaughter is the only feasible charge that could have been placed and I dont believe he is guilty of that. They cops asked if he ingested anything and Floyd lied, had he been honest they would have called for an ambulance like they do 99.9% of the time.
@juul cat all of this was addressed in the trial. If you actually cared to know if he was killrd or not you would’ve watched it. But no you prefer to live in a world of fantasy and racism
Georgefloyd was killed and that is a proven fact. Deal with it
@Truth Be Told you didn’t watch the trial and that’s clear because you’re bringing up things that were disproved in court... scared to admit a black man was murdered just like you’re afraid to admit trump lost fair and square.
@Clank4Prez The jury assesses whether or not the prosecution had proved their case beyond reasonable doubt. They really didnt do that here. How can you be sure she murdered the child instead of simply negligently allowing her to drown in a pool? How can we know for SURE that her story is not true? The prosecution clearly didnt prove that. I would have been "forced" in a sense to rule the same way those jurors did for the same reasons.
When my son was 3 months old I took him with me to a self-washing carwash. He fell asleep on the way there. As I was washing my car I got around to the side he was sleeping on and my heart stopped, the most nightmarish fear overwhelmed me as it appeared my son was not in his car seat. In that one second it took me to drop the power washer and open the car door I felt my heart break and world fall apart, every parent's worst nightmare was about to happen to me.
Alas it was all just a mirage created by the water and lighting. My son was sleeping peacefully dreaming baby dreams. I have never been that relieved about anything.
If there were any parents in that jury that they should truly be ashamed. For anyone who has ever had children; loved, nurtured and loved their kid would know Casey is not. And is indeed a just callous monster.
I think this would be true for any bond between two people or even an animal. I once had a similar experience with my beloved cat that I thought had disappeared. It's inconceivable what that jury did. People have gotten more jail time for less...
Two Cents I think it’s reasonable to call bullshit on what she said 🤷♂️. How can someone legitimately say that missing a cat or dog is a direct comparison to the pure dread of a parent missing a child? There’s only one thing that’s stuck with me and given me problems from work, and that’s the guttural moan of a parent when it’s confirmed a child is dead. There is NO comparison to that.
@Feels Man The point was just that anyone with any kind of bond with another living creature would know the bitch killed her child. Not really inappropriate tbh
@Hi Hello Doesn't matter. "Dog moms", "cat moms", "plant moms" or whatever other ridiculous shit of this nature there is, will never be comparable to actual parents tending to their own children.
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Hi Hello2020-08-02 13:23:47 (edited 2020-08-02 14:14:25 )
@Feels Man I didn't say it does. I'm just saying that wasn't the point of their comment.
@Feels Man to consider a parental bond somehow superior to any other bond is illogical. It creates an illusion that parents have a superior emotional capability than a person who doesn't have children. People can form deep attachments to people who are not related to them by blood, hence falling in love with someone or finding a lifelong friend. You do not have the right to decide the depth of one's attachment to something or someone and you have no right to judge others from your subjective point of view. The people here talking condescendingly about "dog/cat moms" don't understand that there are people who can't have or don't want to have children, who dedicate their lives to caring for animals and see them more than just an inferior life form, and it doesn't make them any less capable of understanding loss or pain or love. The people who are condescending and mocking here are arrogant and egocentric and the only thing it shows is how emotionally lacking they are in they ability to understand other people, hence, I couldn't care less of what you think matters and what doesn't. The fact that my comment triggers you into such outrage is enough of an indicator that your are behind in your emotional development that's appropriate for an adult. Talk to me when you grow up.
Yep. It's bizarre that she's outright incredulous that everybody suspected her from the beginning. My heart stops any time I suspect something could have happened to my child, and that's a near universal experience for any parent. It's insane that she thought her justifications were believable, and even more insane that defense got her off.
@Ug Ne your comment was not extremely inappropriate. You were relating. I have children and beloved fur babies. This women had and has no empathy. A sociopath or whatever they tag them with today
@Ug Ne While I agree about your takedown of condescending douches making light over the depth of emotion one feels towards ones pet I still have to disagree wholeheartedly about the idea that a person could love a pet as much as a parent loves their child. My girlfriend was heartbroken when her dog needed to be put to sleep. Her pain was hard to even witness. If we ever had to bury our son I don't think she could even live anymore. I know I wouldn't want to. The love a parent has for a child outstrips the love anyone can have for anything because we've evolved that way.
@GetTheFO In my opinion, she was just saying that a person missing a pet would show more concern than Caycee did. She was relating it to her own experiences. She was not saying a person missing a pet experiences the exact same grief. Only that Caycee wasn't even showing the concern of a person missing a pet much less a child. Does anyone know who runs this channel or their qualifications? I'm just curious.
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Lil Maritimer2020-08-02 15:27:10 (edited 2020-08-02 15:28:38 )
100%. My child, when in kindergarten, forgot to get off the bus one day which stopped at the end of our driveway. When she didn’t get off the bus I went into complete panic, calling everyone I could think of starting with the school first. The bus driver dropped her off on the way back by our home a few moments later but for that 15 or 20 moments were the worst moments of my life to date. Casey Anthony is a freakin monster, plain and simple.
Even the feeling of panic and fright when your kid is playing outside and you realise you can't hear them anymore so you call them and they don't answer straight away
@Ug Ne Damn! Laying down an existential smackdown over here, flying in from the top ropes. Beautifully said and you are not wrong in the absolute least. I tried thinking of something to add but there's nothing, you hit the nail on the head. I'm also speaking as a parent. It's asinine to tell someone their feelings are invalid, especially just based on personal anecdotes. Keep on handing out that knowledge!
Two Cents i think she was making the point that if anyone in the court owned a living thing then this should’ve freaked them out because thinking of the death of your pet is scary so if there were parents of children they should be even more concerned
Yes! This!! My daughter (16 months old) was walking with me to our car, and she ended up on the other side of the car. I couldn’t see her for maybe 3 seconds and my heart was beating through my chest! NO PARENT would react this way. SAD!!!
@Feels Man A human being is, by definition, an animal. Maybe the person doesn't have children, and was simply attempting to relate in what way they could. You shit out a kid, that's great. But you aren't special. Don't throw a tantrum.
@Ug Ne That's ridiculous. just because someone doesn't have children doesn't imply they can't have strong bonds. But it makes sense evolutionary to have the strongest bond between a parent and a child of the same species sharing DNA as its function is to guarantee the child's development and continued survival. Of course it's superior to any other bond. Why would you throw a fit over something so basic like that?
@Two Cents Antifa? XDD You're arguing against the bond between parents and their children in favor of the bond between a pet and its human friend / master. That seems more like something Antifa would do as they hate humanity, life and family in general, especially kids.
Cognitive dissonance, most likely-- they couldn't comprehend the fact that a mother could do something so callous and heartless to her own child. That's historically why female murderers were able to walk-- due to sheer cognitive dissonance
I agree with the jury. There just was no evidence she actually killed the baby. It seems likely, but not beyond a reasonable doubt. No actual evidence. Her demeanor, behavior, deceit, all would indicate she's guilty. But again, no concrete evidence
@Alykat wrong, read what rhey said. Most actually believed she killed her daughter. But the prosecution didn't provide enough evidence. It isn't what you know, it's what you can prove. The defense had a better case. It happens in law.
@Anya Szafran lol ....how about to start handling law by professionals and immediately stop to have civilians decide about guilt!? - What would be the alternative? Are you seriously asking this? It would be how almost any other country handles the law. By judges, People who studied law for usually more than 6 years, who got years of experience in court and know about the cheap misleading tactics of attorneys.
@moelle I was just genuinely wondering? I don't know why it seemed to upset you that I was just asking a question on a subject because I am not too knowledgable on it.
@Anya Szafran I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you in any way. It was kinda late while I was writing that comment. Nevertheless, its still a bit mind-boggling to me that you dont seem to be able to imagine any other way of a court-proceeding but the one with a jury involved. - To be fair, both options probably have its flaws. If you have a jury, its not unlikely to end up with a messed up result. Just like on this case, not being found guilty by the jury while it was so obvious that she killed her poor daughter. On the other side, a judge can have a twisted opinion about a certain case and end up speaking a messed up verdict. Personally, its frightening to even think about having a bunch of civilians who are allowed to deciide about your fate/life. If its that easy, then why would anyone still study law for multiple years? lol
@chain 3519 i get the idea of the jury, yet I dont trust a bunch of civilians that can decide about other people's fate/life. Speaking law isnt meant to be done by most likely emotional unprepared people.
@moelle isn’t the concept of a jury have to do with democracy or the constitution? I’m not American so I have zero clue if this is correct at all (apologies in advance). The “right to a free and honest trial” and “ to be judged by peers/community” or something a long that line. I think it would be hard to change the jury system if it’s that deep rooted is what Im trying to get at. The whole system is super flawed honestly, but updating seems like a more complicated task..
They didn't decide that she didn't do it they gave the verdict "not guilty". The prosecution failed to prove that she did it, its as simple as that. I personally think that she did, but if i was on the jury I would have said not guilty. They had no evidence, they could not convict.
@ITB I think you missed the entire point of my comment. The point was you can’t lose the gamble. This is a person that belongs in jail EVEN if her kid wasn’t intentionally murdered, she should be in jail. But I think it is UNREASONABLE to conclude she didn’t murder her kid. The system is about proving beyond reasonable doubt. Duck tape around the mouth and nose? For fucks sake. Not to mention everything in life is a “gamble”. We are all imperfect humans who cannot ever truly know anything.
I think this is the fault of the detectives, who have not questioned the suspect for a long time, in a professional way, regardless of the fact that this woman is a good liar, they might have achieved more with long interrogations.
It seems to me that the police did nothing to at least try to force this woman to confess to the crime.
The first confrontation with the police officers who interrogated her was quick and they immediately discovered that they thought she was guilty. They should have done that examination lightly and professionally, to try to lead her to some bigger mistake.
@moelle the point of a jury is that a group of people have to agree on the facts rather than 1 individual. Maybe you are just ultra naive, but judges tend to be extremely biases. Every day there are cases where judges just make up rulings or pass judgements because of how they feel about the person or their politics, or whatever. A jury exists so that judges don't hold the power to do that sort of stuff in major cases. Otherwise whats to stop a racist judge from just giving all black people the death penalty, or whats to stop politically active judges from convicting their political enemies. The jury is the last defense against corruption. It doesn't always work but it works 99% of the time.
@xboxman5ify I could say your car smelled like a dead body. If that was enough to convict you... that wouldn't be the best outcome, would it? There are standards that must be met and in this case the prosecution did not.
@moelle I've seen you call juries civilians a couple of times? Do you or a family member work for a civilian police that treats themselves as a military unit? Just so you know judges and juries are both civilians. They both enforce civil, not military, law.
Here's the biggest difference civilians are elected or appointed by other civilians in goverment. Being a judge is not, in any country I am aware of, a meritocracy. They are elected or appointed by elected officials.
In the us you absolutely have a right to have a judge or a jury trial. I assume that you feel that your intuition is better than the juries and you disagree with the verdict. I wonder if you would be complaining about jury trials if you got the thing you wanted. I doubt it.
Oh my gosh I know, I was absolutely gobsmacked!!!! Her parents have supported her her entire life through her lies and tried to cover up for her and this is how she repays them??? Imagine how her mother must have felt hearing that!? And on such a public platform for the first time. And honestly, even if it was true, you can’t use abuse as an excuse for your own bad behaviour. We live in such a snowflake society where we have all these get of jail free cards. People are abused all the time. Does it mean you’re allowed to try to use that for sympathy to do bad things and get ahead in life through pity? Hell no.
How did he not react to that when he heard the attorney accuse him of that? If he isn't guilty (which I'm sure he is not), how was he not super shocked at the moment he heard that?
I don’t think she was lying about that. You can see the only time she gets emotional is when she feels sorry for herself, and she cried while he was presenting that. But she absolutely murdered her child and it is disgusting that she got away with it. She literally googled how to suffocate wtf.
littlesmew I mean not to get personal here but yes I do sadly know about it from firsthand experience ... please don’t assume people’s knowledge based on their different queries or opinions because comments like that can be triggering xo
"Hi gorgeous,how you doing" . To me that family all seems odd. The daughter is a liar, the mom care about appearence and cover daughter bs.... There is too much mud to grant that the daughter is the only evil there. I don't know. Unfortunely the prosecution didn't do a good job at all. Even the detectivies didn't push the tension high enough during the interrogation.
Maybe she would prefer to talk about anything but her missing child. That doesn't obviously mean she has no feeling of guilt. Keeping so many lies together must be exhausting...
I think the worst part is when she lies to lawyer and accuses her dear father who shows abundance of pure parental love of molesting her as a child, and the nerve of the defense attorney to use unproven claims like that do nationally defame him is disgusting, and she deserves the worst punishment allowed by law. Poor daughter got in the way of her partying.
She had prime defense with multiple lawyers. I have to guess they were payed by her parents because how would she be able to afford that? And the way she was raised and treated by her parents makes me guess her father took that one for his "team"/daughter to improve her chances. Did he deny any of that? All infos I have is what I saw here. Maybe that hunch is wrong and then I would be terribly sorry but that's the feeling I get... And if that is true it would be not respectable of him at all but just another enabling of a sociopath.
@JavaBytes Apparently for years after the trial the father and Casey did not speak. The mother kept in touch, unsurprisingly. It seemed that she went too far with the accusations and it woke him up. I read that he got into a severe car crash a while ago and it sounded like he speaks to her now. I read this last year or so and it seemed credible.
I wanna know how dad being an ex policeman and a cadaver dog both picked up on the smell of death from her car and she was able to lie it away as garbage.
@Michelle Menth Very true! Afterwards her father changed his opinion and said it was garbage , maybe an old pizza that he’d smelled He was obviously covering up for his daughter . The jury were despicable imo . A month after the verdict one of the jurors gave two interviews to People magazine . He said that the Prosecution didn’t give enough evidence to convict Casey ! He said the jurors knew Casey had probably done something wrong but not beyond a reasonable doubt ! He said that the jurors didn’t like the Prosecutors! They found the lead prosecutor Jeff Ashton ambitious and arrogant and the other prosecutor they thought was cold and mechanical . But the jurors liked Casey’s defence lawyer Jose Baez ,as they thought he was the only one in the room who cared .
What a load of tosh! There was plenty of evidence . The principle medical officer DR G gave substantial evidence too . She said that she couldn’t understand the non guilty verdict and she was very upset by it . Also why would the jury like the Defence lawyer , just because he cared about Casey ! The jury seems off to me 💰💰
Even if I'm late, TY for your comment!! HOW can she do that to her kind father in front of the world?! What I don't get, is her father and mother are QUIETLY sitting in the courtroom and listening to this! ACCEPTING basically to be dragged in the mud??? I just don't get it. Obviously it's a disgusting lie from the lawyer to gain sympathy for CA and to "explain" why she lies all the time... but HOW can her parents, after everything they have done for her, support her, helping her with Caley (that's what CA tell them while in jail)... how can they COMPLY with that defense?? And not come forward and say it's total BS!!!! It's the only time CA can't even hold crying, while her lawyer is stating that horrible accusation, because she's so ashamed TO TARNISH HER DAD IN FRONT OF THE WORLD... but it's necessary to HER defense. It makes no sense, because her mother wouldn't be sitting next to her father if she believes it, and shouldn't support CA if it's not. They even comply with the drowning theory and that they all covered it???? I don't get all that... they should have been KEY WITNESSES for Caley.
@Syl D I agree with you . I presume that CA’s parents had lost their granddaughter and didn’t want to lose their daughter too They let CA ‘walk’ all over them. After she was acquitted she didn’t bother with them and cut all contact with them . So they ‘lost ‘ her regardless I have no empathy for her parents . They did not stand up for their grandchild and did not get justice for her . The father an ex police officer even changed his story to ensure CA was found not guilty . I believe they help create CA into the monster she is .
@Cherry Metha And I agree back. I knew about this case of course, but I forgot about the accusation of the dad (without ANY evidence, even if CA's attorney insisted this trial was about FACTS, not emotion). Even if my life was at risk, I would ABSOLUTELY refrain from saying something like that about my father. The parents did everything right at the beginning (not throwing CA under the bus, but saying what has to be said and trying to find Casey). Then, maybe sending their daughter for potential death penalty was too much (she'd never have been executed anw), but the more I have information about them, the less I feel empathy... It's something to defend their daughter in a way, but comply with total BS is something else. What CA did is not "only" killing, but throwing away of her life, their innocent grandchild, like garbage, being DELIGHTED with that. Anyway CA put a shadow on this family FOREVER --> and THEY participated in a way.
I don't understand how the jury agreed with this attorney (over this amount of evidence and all the lying)... The moment he said the father put his pen** into CA mouth (with the face of the father in the courtroom 🤐lol), HE LOST ME. It's so obvious, but he seduced the jury (they are weak and stupid or what??). The prosecution was boring af, did not bring up all evidence and should have asked for life in prison, instead of death penalty to have more chance. And so why didn't the investigation continue ? She was charge with minor charges for hiding the body, after the "drowning/accident", but where are the evidence for that?? It's all about CA. THIS CASE IS BEYOND UNDERSTANDING. Glad we can share our frustration.
@Syl D You are 100% right! A woman who can murder her daughter and then go and party has no conscience or empathy for anyone . She will use and manipulate anyone to get what she wants . CA is ruthless and evil imo . She didn’t care about how her father felt when she lied and falsely accuse him of m.olesting her . CA with the help of her lawyers was laying the foundations of her having had a hard life due to abuse as an excuse for k,illing her daughter .
I believe that CA’s parents never really gave her boundaries while she was growing up, so she did what she wanted to do. I think they were always scared of losing her ie that she’d go off and never contact them again and she used that threat to her full advantage imo . . It’s just unbelievable that they’d lie to protect CA and forget all about their granddaughter who suffered immensely at the hands of her mother The Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree! All three of them are cut from the same cloth.
The jury definitely have blood on their hands . I saw Dr G in an interview . She was lead medical officer on the case . She said that the prosecution had plenty of evidence . She also said that the judge didn’t allow some of the evidence . Why not ? That’s a red flag ! She was shocked and upset that there was no justice for Caylee. Sometimes 💰💰exchanges hands. People think that the legal world is squeaky clean . Its not. Far from it . The way the case was conducted was not in the interest of justice . The reasons the jury gave were about the personalities of the Defence and Prosecution which has no bearing on the Case . I’d read an article ages ago that CA was dating one of her lawyers. I don’t know if that’s true but as she’s very manipulative I can see that it’s highly probable imo , Excellent points you made about the other minor charges ! Maybe it was ‘time served’? . It’s really good to discuss the case with you i
@Cherry Metha Yes same here! Look at this comment I received! If the jury, by any bad luck, were a few of this kind of people, then I get the outcome of this trial😮💨! No need to answer, it's lost cause, but be aware!! It's really hard to read 🙄🤔(I did NOT edit anything): The comment ---> ""Syl D The sad demise of her child could actually have been a real accident and she then used the tragic situation for a good one: I think her fathere definitely molested her and her mother knew about it and did nothing (as is usually the case). She made sure that it was mentioned by her lawyer so that the whole world can (finally) know. She used all this to hurt them down to their core as they did her. If this is the case: Brilliant! Also, the fact that everything worked in her favour is perhaps proof of this. And perhaps fate spared that little girl to suffer from her grandparents as her mother did"".
Imagine, some people can go as far as : thanks to the accident, CA could eventually reveal what her father did to her (and could have done to Caley)😮😣. Wow, come on, just her partying and dancing and the duct tape on Caley, was ENOUGH to debunk this theory. Man, this lawyer could be a CULT LEADER... he made it so that all the compulsive lying, looked better than ANY truth! And the jury agreed with the lawyer, the duct tape was not convincing enough, it could have been a possible contamination!... The chloroform and all CA internet research were not brought up by the incompetent prosecution apparently. Maybe money is involved, but maybe it was just her and her defense show, that convinced this weak jury and it's even worse. Then justice was not served for no reason. Just they wanted to show off and be MORE convinced LOL.
Maybe because it's too difficult to process that a mom can kill her child like that, leave her in the trunk of her car, because she doesn't want to take care of her (even dead) and dispose of her like garbage, just to ENJOY her life... and then accused her dad to explain her lying and behavior (no sense but ok). On top of that : she made fun of the police, her parents, her relatives, everyone and should have had her ass REALLY kicked AT THE TRIAL!
@Be N S O N His job is to get her out of jail regardless of what she had done. This much evidence against her and he managed to convince the jury that she is not gulty. That's a great lawyer.
@teodor maciuca idk man, the justice system's supposed to separate the guilty from the innocent, so intentionally lying and playing to the jury to protect an obviously guilty woman, it's just wrong.
@Be N S O N id rather not drag other systems through the mud as to start an internet argument but honestly as bad as this is, if you look at “modern” countries defense styles there are far worse legal systems. Still though this is pretty bad, if the father is innocent imagine that shock in court hearing your daughter say that.
This mindset is really common but lawyers are doing their job for better or worse, defending an innocent poc who has been unfairly treated by our justice system or a cold blooded killer. All people no matter how dreadful has the right to “show their side of the story” in a courtroom and that’s what lawyers are for. We’re just doing our job. What we should blame these things for are ether the very flawed justice system or the fact that Casey most definitely was very mentally unwell, she should’ve gotten the rehab and help she needed before she hurt others. Am I defending her? Absolutely not, what she has done is most utterly horrible. Do I think this could’ve been prevented if she got some sort of rehab and help to be a normal functioning human being? Absolutely
@Be N S O N no. The justice systems job is to give everyone a fair trial. As soon as we start “sending bad people to jail without 100% certainty” so many more innocent people would be in jail. It’s sucks to see a guilty person get freedom. But it would suck much more if 100 innocent people went to prison for every 1 guilty person that goes to prison just to make sure EVERY guilty person goes to prison. So yeah. It’s sucks when people like her get away with this shit. But it’s the better of two evils.
@teodor maciuca but somewhat he knew she was guilty. Yet protected her and got her out in the name of money and JOB.. He wouldn't find himself guilty. But i bet they can't sleep at night feeling the guilty of saving a murderer.
@teodor maciuca uh, you know that jobs can be unethical right? Just because it's his job doesnt give him a free pass. How many actual nazis were just doing their jobs?
@Jek It is unethical, but it's in his interest to get her out of trouble. If you are a lawyer you must do whatever you can to get the best outcome for your client. I dont know man depends on the perspective. It's very impressive that against all the evidence he got the jury to vote not gulty.
There are many innocent people who have been wrongly charged for crimes because all the evidence points directly to them. This is the reason why every deserves a fair trial with a lawyer who will do the best they can to win their client’s case. To avoid punishing innocent people for crimes they didn’t commit. Innocent people have spent life in prison and given the death penalty.
Unless Casey specifically told the lawyer that she actually did murder her daughter and that her father never actually molested her, then he was acting in good faith. It’s his sworn duty to represent the defendant based on the information he has whether he personally believes the defendant is telling the truth or not.
With that being said, his smugness at the end certainly seems to show that he believed she was guilty and that he was very pleased with himself that he won the case despite the mountain of evidence against Casey.
@Be N S O N Maybe it is a bit late on this, but this exemplifies the biggest problem with representative justice systems. False convictions and acquittals are SIGNIFICANTLY higher when there is a defense and a prosecution because the job of the lawyers are to create two competing narratives, not to find the truth in any capacity.
I imagine the jury in this case found her not guilty because of 'beyond a reasonable doubt' since there was scarce evidence specifically placing her at the scene of the crime. However, I think it's especially disgusting that she even got off on the child abuse charges with a not guilty verdict. even the simple fact that she didn't call the police for 31 days should be enough to prove that beyond any doubt imo.
Just found out she started a photography company, just to be closed down its twitter account because people kept asking about caylee. She started a firm law company, to help people that "mistakenly accused like her" and she wanted a child but her father already said dont make the same mistake. Thank god caylee law was implemented so parent do not keep secret about their son dissapearance like someone did for 31 days
Watching the video while reading the comments, getting to know that she is not found guilty makes it more difficult to watch the remaining 68 minutes. Her laughing and talking about eating coleslaw, dammn, I wouldn't be able to swallow water if anything happened to my neighbor's child, let alone mine.
I was young when this case happened (I’m 22) and the shock of this case never fails I swear like I literally watched the trial when I was a kid and even lived in denial after she got off for her child’s death.
You said it perfectly here. I’m also 22, every couple of years I’m reminded of this case and I’m always left being filled with disgust, contempt, and disbelief. I vividly remember being in school, seeing everything unfold over the news, and being left with this absolute miscarriage of justice
I'm still convinced that Casey wanted to go out partying and decided to try to get Caylee to fall asleep using Xanax (Aka Zanny the Nanny) but her dumb ass overdosed her and killed her, but decided to stage her corpse and buried her in a random location thinking she wouldn't get caught. The justice system failed Caylee, and I'm still furious about it today.
If it was an accidental death by Xanax (which would still be at least manslaughter), she wouldn't have searched suffocation methods beforehand. It was murder, and afterward, she approved of her own judgment in murdering her daughter so she could party more. I wish the jury could be put on trial for negligence.
So disgusted by the defense lawyers. They defended a monster and even celebrated their "victory" and even hugged the monster out of pure joy and sense of triumphant. Why did they do that? They are not stupid. They know this thing wearing a human mask killed a 3 year old child who was even her daughter. They did it to enrich their own career, knowing that they would be able to build even more renown by "winning" an infamous case. They let this monster out to roam free and were even joyful that they could, just for the sake of their own fame and money. Disgusting
@Nathan Wassem yeah, after watching a lot of other trial clips, I realized that it is common for defense lawyers to play the victim card and call for sympathy how ever they possibly can especially in a case like this where the defendant has no chance to win. Well, in this case jury were clearly not the brightest of bunch and failed to deliver justice tho. Anyways this was my first time watching a trial so I was uninformed and shocked to hear something like that from obviously smart people like lawyers, defending a pile of garbage. Someone's gotta do it I guess because we all deserve justice. Now I'm more mad at the jury lol
This mindset is really common but lawyers are doing their job for better or worse, defending an innocent poc who has been unfairly treated by our justice system or a cold blooded killer. All people no matter how dreadful has the right to “show their side of the story” in a courtroom and that’s what lawyers are for. We’re just doing our job. What we should blame these things for are ether the very flawed justice system or the fact that Casey most definitely was very mentally unwell, she should’ve gotten the rehab and help she needed before she hurt others. Am I defending her? Absolutely not, what she has done is most utterly horrible. Do I think this could’ve been prevented if she got some sort of rehab and help to be a normal functioning human being? Absolutely
@Sarah maybe I haven't seen enough trials and uninformed but these lawyers here looked way too happy to let this trash out. Maybe it's a strategy to appeal to future customers by looking like they actually care but nonetheless they are basically pulling all these gigs for their fame and money. I don't know what's immature about feeling disgusted about letting a murderer to roam free lol. Also as I mentioned above it's more of a jury's fault, letting dumb and uninformed people to decide things seems to be a big flaw to me tbh
@vanessa Hall You misunderstand what I'm defending. Not this particular person who I actually believe murdered her child and if that's true deserves to be in prison. I'm defending the idea that everyone deserves a fair trial and a defense attorney who does their best to actually win the case. The thing that I find really weird is this outrage over anyone who is found not guilty. You know that the US have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world, it might even be the highest among democratic countries? More and more convictions and harsher and harsher sentences do not solve any of society's problems, it only tickles your revenge fantasies.
@Nathan Wassem I agree, a system without equal defence would be incredibly corrupted. But a defence lawyer who is knowingly defending the guilty should not be happy about winning, that’s the issue, especially in a case like this.
@Ali Omar yes! It’s so weird. Everyone I’ve talked to recently has seen the “here’s what crazy looks like” video because it was recommended by YT. Dude somehow got the YouTube algorithm working for him!
Same- even though I already know the difference because- bro they need some acting skills- but anyway yes I’m binge watching all of them at the moment 🤩
Oh man, and you know, it's so weird and awful but I keep putting myself in these people's places and feeling like I'm getting tips on how to act innocent for crimes I never plan to commit.
Lmfao that’s me ✋🏻 Why did that “pretending to be crazy” video just pop up for me? I’ve never watched any YouTube videos similar to this (criminal psych stuff), but now I’m fuckin hooked.
Man I seen this channel awhile back and I watched 1 video and totally forgot about it, glad that was recommended to me though so I Could find it again.
Here, I'm a model citizen here for what a guy having focal (non convulsive) seizures and post seizure psychosis vs intoxication or psychotic for police actually, became real world training for them...I've been picked up actively seizing standing in the highway picking fights with cars, climbing buildings and called police in post seizure psychosis with bizarre delusions and hallucinations many times. I know from second hand observations, I am literally known by half the city's police and RCMP yet never been arrested (police frequently deal with focal seizures as we can appear either heavily intoxicated, belligerent and even be violent or serious risks to ourselves)
How anyone can watch this and not be outraged by the ruling is beyond me. She killed her child and went about her life like it never happened. How is that not plainly obvious? Her behavior, her lies, her internet searches. the made up ppl, places and her complete indifference about it all says she's 100%, no doubt guilty.
Casey thought she could lie her way through anything and get away with it, and unfortunately that was consistently reinforced for her. I remember watching this as a child and as an adult, I cannot fathom how she was found not guilty. She was clearly guilty to me as a 10 year old, this is just an injustice for Caylee.
@Xo Xo that is an interesting perspective that I never considered!! Unfortunately there are better ways to go about things instead of harming an innocent baby girl.
@TalkWithTati And the fact that everything worked in her favour can perhaps be a sign that this whole thing was necessary and just... because it was done by a person with a broken mind and heart.
@TalkWithTati Perhaps the child did die accidentally. She then knew she could use this for revenge. And it worked.
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Mark Carr2022-03-11 22:27:22 (edited 2022-03-12 02:10:18 )
This woman is like a super-villain that can only be written in the realm of fantasy or sci-fi.
Everyone KNEW she was lying. Every word out of her mouth could be refuted with tangible evidence. Detectives, investigators, prosecutors, police.... Every one of them was played like a fiddle, with Casey as the orchestrater, audience, and center stage player.
Their are times that we root for the bad guy. He /she goes up against a government, a rule of law, or some fictional entity, and comes out Victorious.
It amazes me that she got away with the murder of her daughter. A modern day criminal mastermind.
Its worth noting that during the phone call with her parents from jail, she used the past tense about her parents relationship to her daughter "Caylee was lucky to have you as grandparents"
I can’t help but feel that Caylee’s name is a reflection of Casey’s narcissism in an attempt to afford herself as much credit as possible for something she never even deserved in the first place.
I remember that those kind of names were very popular until this happened. It seems like everyone had a baby girl named Kaylee, Kiley, Keeley, Kaeleen, etc. 🤷🏻♂️
Some cases like these are so infuriating to watch how confident they are to lie to detectives who's jobs is to read lies like a book. Rest easy to all those lives lost to those they trusted with their lives❤️
Assuming she used some sort of sedative and Caylee OD'd, I wonder what her sentence would have been had she just came clean the next morning and admitted to it being a horrible, horrible, negligent accident.
Just a complete -not-on-the-topic thing I realised: The way the parents talked to Casey on the phone, they still used "sweetheart" etc. As a German, this is weird - in a phonecall like this, you can be very sure the words would be very harsh and direct, not coating anything. This just blew my mind for some reason :D
8:05 “yes sir” “no sir” straight to the point. Respectful. Thank this guy for being completely professional with this. Thank him for being honest.
“It’s not the end of the road” what a good man. Even trying to get info out of her he still is kind of emotionally supporting her to when she does confess that it isn’t the end of the world. And it will be okay.
This just proves how easy it is to manipulate people into believing that there isn’t enough evidence to convict someone and to make them think that their reasoning for trying to convict someone is due to emotions.
Just remembered that Anthony's lawyer had alleged that Casey went through sexual assault at the hands of her father at age 8? Wonder how her dad handled that after she was aquitted? 🤔
I had read some articles on Anthony and she said that she was open to having kids one day. Her father said: "Knowing now that she could potentially be a mom again, I hope she does better this time around than what she did last time.” Even her family doesn't think she's fully innocent. I think her search history, the car smelling of rot, Caylee's hair in the trunk, remains of chloroform in the trunk, her hesitation to call the cops, and her giving the detectives the run around should have gotten her convicted of something.
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Kelly Williamson2022-03-16 15:12:08 (edited 2022-03-16 15:45:08 )
Casey is pure evil. I am halfway through this, and as fascinating as it is, knowing she got away with it is too infuriating for me to finish watching. Life is so random, absurd, and unfair . . . WTF.
She definitely should have been prosecuted and also I think the way her dad reacts to her in the first time we see them talking to her in person makes me suspicious of him. I think the whole family is off and probably should all be under investigation next to her.
This case is the most disturbing case I have ever seen. I'm in the UK and heard bits of it and thought I need to find out what this is all about. I was so shocked by it all. The lies she told just went on, tbh the whole family are very wierd, I mean a month and nobody saw Caley, what were they thinking? She never rang the police, her baby was missing for 30 days and she did nothing, well she partied, got a tattoo and carried on her life supposidley not knowing where her child was. If my child was missing for 30 seconds I would be distraught. She googled chloroform, why would anybody Google that unless they were interested in using it. She killed that poor little girl because she got in the way of her partying and she got away with it. People have been done for murder with way less proof than her. She has no remorse for her child what so ever, found in a blanket with duct tape over her mouth and nose, wow what an awful death that poor baby, RIP beautiful little girl I'm sorry for your death ❤️
That lawyer buffed the hell out of his speech stat before the closing statement. I have no doubt Casey is guilty but dude went into whatever the lawyer equivalent of beast mode there and made some good points. Didn't help that the prosecution was really bad. Karma will get Casey in the end. Pretty sure she'll have to live in hiding for years to come. Enjoy hell, baby killer.
I really think her mom knew it was her when they were talking to her in the prison. I think she didn't make it obvious she knew in hopes that maybe she would be able to stay on Casey's "good side" and possibly piece things together/get more info out of her.
Casey reminds me of a woman I'm close with who was also molested by her father as a child. All her life she's suffered from depression, suicidal thoughts, and anxiety. When she broke the silence her parents reprimanded her because "family secrets must be kept quiet".
There's no real Casey as she was replaced with what we see there most of the time: simulacrum. She lives in a world of fantasy where the truth and lies are indistinguishable, and pain doesn't hurt. She had no care for her daughter because the concept of love doesn't even exist in her mind.
Of course the defense could've faked the whole thing, maybe even getting her parents involved, but I don't think so. Notice how she's bracing herself as her attorney gets ready to drop the bomb and then bursts out as the ugly secrets are unapologetically spilled. That's real pain. That seems to me like the real, 8-year-old Casey rising to the surface for a brief moment.
To believe Casey's nonsense, you also have to believe that her father, a decades-long police detective, stupidly compelled her to throw his grand-daughter in a trash heap mere feet away from HIS own home, when he simply could easily made her disappear forever (It is Florida, after all). You also have to accept that after years of horrific abuse by her father, she abandons her own daughter for days on end, again and again, to this same individual. I don't buy it.
@Debra C I completely agree with you. All I'm saying is I'm not 100% sure she intentionally killed her so I'm not sure I could've said 'GUILTY' and have her executed. Leaving her daughter with her grandparents may be shocking and horrifying (if the allegations against George are true) but it's common for victims like her to dissociate to the point where their abuser/father become two different people in their mind.
@marq _ If it was an accident, why would she have covered it up? Better still, why would her father compel her to cover it up? That was her story in court. I can't get past the use of duct tape. The ONLY reasons to use that on a living child are nefarious. But, I do get your point, since we can't know definitively, whether the death was intentional, she should receive the benefit of the doubt.
Management where I used to work would lie without conscience. Couldn't believe anything they said. Working for such an institution over the long game is very unhealthy.
I always heard of this case but never went into it. I am surprised this happened where I live and I didn’t even know. I was only 8 at the time, but still. It hits so close.
The parents relationship with Casey is enabling. There is a DVD on Casey Anthony that details the dysfunction in this family that ends in the murder of an innocent toddler.
I for one, know what damage is done by sexual abuse... I'm not saying she's inocent, but if she was sexually abused... That would explain her indifference and self preservation. The loss of her child I question. I get paranoid when my kids are late coming home after school !!!!
This is like The Usual Suspects level of off-the-cuff lying. I have absolutely no idea what she's thinking or feeling at any moment. It's baffling at every step.
She's a good liar, but that's where a pathological liar fail often: being unable to back up what they say with things that can be easily verifiable, like a goddamn employment in a huge company who actually have the names of their employees
All in all her performance was pretty good, but similar to a theatrical piece with absolutely no depths
I put the ultimate responsibility for Caylee's death on Casey's parents. She didn't become a monster all by herself. What kind of "parenting" created Casey Anthony??
It's a gut shot everytime they read not guilty. How the hell could a jury come back all in agreement of not guilty baffles me! It's proven she killed her kid. No doubt about it.
I have a child.....and I'm a young mom. I also want to enjoy my life, but I can do it with my child being in it. This woman is a mom in theory but practically she is a monster. RIP LITTLE ANGEL....YOU ARE BETTER WITHOUT YOUR MOM
Ok so if Caylee simply fell in the pool and drowned, why did her mother feel the need lie about it and create this whole story about the nanny taking her!! If it was accidental then there wouldn't be any logical explanation to fabricate such a ridiculous story as anyone with half a brain cell would have figured that out and clearly casey isn't that stupid so why would she have put herself in a situation where she would have to lie when she didn't need to?? she would have known that already and would have called the emergency services on day 1 not 31!!
When ever you post again, you should get a relatively unknown case and let us try to decide whether the criminal was guilty or not and then tell us whether they are or not in the end of the video.
This woman is obviously lying. There is numerous evidence pointing to the fact that she is clearly guilty. Why on earth was she allowed to walk free? It boggles my mind.
So many people who were innocent of crimes went to prison for 20 to 30 years before they were let out because they were innocent. Casey killed her daughter because she wanted her freedom to party and not have to work and support her child. It's a shame she wasn't found guilty and sent to prison. This is a great channel and look forward to more videos. Thanks.
@gODZILLA What has history got to do with it? I believe in the soul and trust me if you think you can go through life doing bad things and then you die and that's it well your in for a big suprise.
@DARREN DAY sure if you believe in an afterlife. But karma within the real world doesn't exist as a law. Sometimes it does happen and that's nice, but if often doesn't and bad people get away with doing bad things constantly, to the point of being glorified sometimes.
The prosecution is essentially the child's lawyer. In a murder case it's "The People" versus whoever is accused. "The People" being the state that the crime is being tried in.
57:34 U must be kidding the shit out of me.. her father was so supportive the whole time, she acted nothing like u would do infront of your sexually abusive father, (u would be anxious, u won't be able to look straight in the eye), infact she acted so friendly with her father.. I can't imagine her making all of this, jst for her own benefit. This Is Horrible.
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Chris L2022-03-17 01:25:15 (edited 2022-03-17 01:26:03 )
I will never understand how others find people like this to be even slightly "believable" or "charismatic". I didn't get it when this was actually happening and I still don't get it now. I guess I just have a better intuition against total and utter bullshit.
The worst part of all this is that it's clear she no longer wanted to be a mother, and it's also clear her parents would've taken that baby in in a heartbeat. I can't believe this woman even survived jail.
defender: „no one knows the answer“ also defender: „She didn’t killed her“ What an professional Bruh all he was saying was literally „we cant prove it“
it’s shocking. Too many indications that she killed her own child and the reason why she didnt went to jail is because „no one knows the answer“? Are you kidding me?
Not once have I ever used my friends/acquaintances middle names when mentioning them, yet the first two names outta her mouth that's what she says. I don't even know most my friend's middle names, let alone some random co-worker.
It is absoutely unbelievable they picked such a thick group of people in one jury 🙄 She murdered her own child because she was a hindrance to her lifestyle simple. I just pray🙏 karma comes calling at her door and Caylee haunts her for the rest of her miserable life on this earth.
Holy shit. I thought she got convicted! I was shocked when they said not guilty! Wtf I’m so mad right now this woman killed her baby and got away with it
I never felt so disgusted by a person. I've seen hundreds of cases and this one is truly one of the worst and the fact that the jury couldn't find enough to convict is truly sickening.
Talked to Juliet Lewis about caylee going missing…but when asked if she has Juliet’s number she says no she just moved two-three months ago. And no longer works at universal…ma’am if caylee has been only missing 30 days how did you talk to Juliet about it?
Okay fine, we’ll accept that she’s not guilty. But what happened to the child? Why isn’t her mother so diligent to find out what happened to her child???
The child “drowned” but was duct taped over her mouth and nose etc. and she’s still not found guilty? Make it make sense. What’s the point of duct taping a child that was already dead from “drowning”? This is so dangerous because it shows people you can literally get away with murder by confidently lying. I can name a few people who probably took notes from this. Sickening.
This is up there with "if the glove don't fit, you must acquit". Our system has failed many times. Innocent people getting put into prison and people like her and OJ walking free.
@SMF 1 ikr they literally wrongly accused and imprisoned the Central Park 5 for most of their lives but people like her, r-kelly and OJ are free. It’s honestly disgusting
it could have been put there by Casey to avoid negligence accusations, to make it seem like her daughter was abducted (and that she, therefore, had no involvement in Caylee's death at all).
she's guilty of something-- I personally think that Caylee DID drown, since Casey often ignored problems and had a pool that was very much accessible to Caylee. then, Casey freaked the fuck out, looked up ways to kill herself, tried to make it look like an abduction to avoid blame, and ultimately buried her.
she wouldn't have been able to pull off the abduction story immediately after her daughter's death; those lies wouldn't have worked as well. the month-long gap between Caylee's death and Casey's arrest allowed Casey to lie and feign forgetfulness.
she's extremely guilty, but i don't really think she killed her daughter directly. i think she was negligent and wanted to blow it off, as she did all her life with her mistakes.
@axie Yeah but before that she wrote in her journal if her daughter really had drowned she wouldnt be out partying and saying shes been happier than ever in her journal
@The_Almighty_Jack yes, there are a lot of facts i weren't aware of when i wrote this comment. i now think it's more likely that she did kill her child, but a motive is still completely absent (but i don't really want to get into the "is casey criminally insane?" argument)
the main reason (upon reading the allegedly flawed autopsy report) that i think she killed caylee was that the body was in different bags, in different segments. that would not be the result of a drowning.
however, her dragging out the finding of the body for so long, if we go with the drowning story, would cover up the fact that the child drowned if that was the case.
all around, casey's bizarre behavior made the case nearly impossible to sift through and come to any 100% clear solution, which is the main reason why she was acquitted. however, i still think she should have AT LEAST received some form of negligence charge.
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Jesse P. Watson2021-05-31 21:29:52 (edited 2021-06-01 19:48:20 )
@axie "...then, Casey freaked the fuck out, looked up ways to kill herself, tried to make it look like an abduction to avoid blame, and ultimately buried her."
...If you mean to say Casey googled 'suffocation' and 'flawless suffocation" (or whatever it was) with the intention of finding a way to kill herself ...No, that doesn't make sense, it's an extremely unconventional way of approaching the problem of committing suicide. The fact that the child was found with its mouth covered by tape clearly indicates suffocation or the attempt to portray suffocation as the cause of death.
Why do this after drowning, what advantage was she seeing in re-framing a drowning so as to make it appear a suffocation...? She had a swimming pool incriminating her for negligence, fair enough, but she also had tape in the house. Her plots are generally single layered and poorly constructed, seemingly on the fly - her taking the officers to the Universal building and subsequent blabbering reasoning for this idiotic attempt at misleading them doesn't show planning so advanced as you are detailing there.
Had she been attempting to frame the death as you are describing surely the most obvious deception would be to make some attempt to plant evidence indicating the presence of a third party and yet, as stated in the court, all the items found on the body were taken directly from Casey's household - this being the case, there is no reason to believe Casey buried the body with the intention of planting supporting evidence to corroborate an abduction story - if such was the case the lack of any erroneous evidence leading the investigators to look elsewhere makes it a premeditated plan to avoid any blame whilst increasing the personal risk 100-fold, this being carried out without any attempt to redirect attentions elsewhere - which makes no sense whatsoever.
I can't think of a way that she didn't do it.
[After watching recent videos about the case, it does look like the father may in fact be responsible. An unspeakable conspiracy in other words. It was widely noted that he refused to answer questions over the trial and was thought untruthful in the answers he gave, he also placed testimony against Casey. Its grim but casey's body was dressed in clothes far too small for her, asif by someone who did not know which clothes were current, which concurs with it being someone other than casey who dressed her last. Jesus, what a thing to write, but that seems about the sum of it. ...So God knows. ...and I don't envy him that.
@SMF 1 oj was guilty but he got off because they were tampering with his already incrimitnating evidence. He would of got convicted but they screwed with it an it back fired.
I found on Wikipedia "Cindy Anthony testified that their family buried their pets in blankets and plastic bags, using duct tape to seal the opening." Her family protected her despite the slander. Insanity...
@Certified Goat " if her daughter really had drowned she wouldnt be out partying and saying shes been happier than ever in her journal" Of course she would. In fact that's the most revealing thing about her personality. She just lost a big ball and chain that was around her neck (in her mind) pulling her down to having to take responsibility. She was finally "free" again to party as much as she wanted after 3 years. Of course she would. You can't possibly think that a compulsive liar - and I dare to say it, psycho - would have normal feelings about their child.
@Biggy Boris defense lawyers are important for a justice system, doesnt matter how fucked up someone is, if you want to put them in prison they need a fair trial which is the job of the defense attorney.
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Ky Atonic2021-06-01 05:00:09 (edited 2021-06-01 05:03:23 )
@axie the motive is that she didn’t want her child or the responsibility of her child seems pretty clear to me she’s clearly a narcissist to her the child was bringing her down
@axie I feel like even if she “freaked out” she wouldnt have been so damn evil about it later she is NOT upset if she knew her child drowned alone in a pool which probably took her as long to die as it would’ve if she suffocated her, she would be so upset after they found her and if her daughter had just fell in she would’ve been less secretive about telling them where she was. She waited an entire month and was seen at parties, hanging out with friends, being cool as hell about the whole thing. That little girl was definitely murdered whether she did it or not she was involved in it and in the cover up.
The_Almighty_Jack It’s illogical that a mother who’s child just died from “drowning” due to being “abducted” would go party hard for the next month. May be that’s just me or people are just cold bIooded.
I think the lawyer did well. So many innocent people get charge every year, and without lawyers like this they get sent to jail. This is one of the misfortune cases where the defense did too good. It happens. No Justice system is 100% foolproof. Her life is ruined anyway. Good luck holding down a respectable well paying job after all the media coverage. She clearly did it. She’s ruined.
@Biggy Boris Slimy lawyer? That guy did his job immaculately, I would love to have him defending me, whether I did something wrong or not. That guy was as emotionally invested in the outcome as Casey was. When they hugged after the verdicts were read, Casey was ecstatic thinking about the freedom she had just won, and Jose was ecstatic thinking of the frankly deserved career boost he just got from winning this case, the product of which we can see when we look at his career after the Casey trial. The man went from a nobody-at-law to being handed high-profile cases left and right including one for a billion dollar hedge fund (which he also won). You can say he is slimy for defending Casey, but not only are attorneys are out for their own benefit (which necessarily aligns with their client's), they also have a responsibility to defend their clients as exhaustively as they possibly can, regardless of what they might personally believe; to do any less would be truly slimy and would be a disservice to our criminal justice system. The prosecution should have done better, and the media should have been less involved, there are many things to be learned from this outcome.
@Fluffy Little Bear I'm thinking some of the lies might have been made up by the lawyer himself. That would be slimy. Hard to say, although he must have known her to be guilty.
It's so fucking disgusting. If anyone looked at the evidence alone it would so obvious that casey was guilty. But because the defense lawyer was so much better, the jury made their decision against all common sense. This case was not about justice, it was about who had the better lawyer. Same thing with oj tbh. How the fuck do they allow shit like this to happen.
They did not find duct tape over the baby's mouth, that is false information. Only found was a skeleton, duct tape was near the body and they assumed it was over the mouth, but all the soft tissue was gone so the duct tape could not have been attached to bone.
@Jesse P. Watson I'm sorry for your struggle, nightmare!!!
I was in the similar situation with my own... mother. (She was alcoholic than.)
What I would like to share with you is:
1. An advice: what do you think about founding the sociopath lawyer against her and just let the two creatures to have their own battles?
I bet that if you already have an lawyer it's as HONEST accurate person AS YOU, right? MISTAKE! I think honest ppl are already lost in battle against vampires. Hire a vmpire against a vampire, not the gold hearted human like yourself.
I assume you lost loads of money on that case and you're not into investing more in the next lawyer BUT you also mentioned that you already prepared youself to loose the case. So I advice you to consider again whether the math is for : get the vampire against her and PTSD therapy for yourself, or for: f*** it, just stary working over new home and totally different relationship with totally different woman (PTSD therapy still advised. I got deep depression AFTER almost 2 YEARS after leaving the hell with my mother behind.) (Ps. My mom got cured from alcoholism. I still didn't get cured from depression!!)
Good luck!!! You deserve all the best as honest, sensitive person (but unfortunately life's a bitch exactly as your ex.)
2. I am a woman and feminist so let me be an advocate on the stereotype you mentioned in the end. Yes, nowadays some women are as tough as other predators [men]. But please consider HUNDREDS of years of the history while woman was just nothing. The MAN was everything. In court female sentence was NOTHING against man's sentence. Women couldn't posess houses, bank accounts without man's agreement, civil rights as voting in elections etc. There are still loads of countries where women cannot go out on the street without men's approoval!! When you consider how this was extreme unjustice FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, than maybe you'll be more forgiving to naive people who are now too much towards females. It's just common psychological feature to be a bit blinded towards previous victims. Some woman are predators as man, but the rest is still much more vulnerable than men. Statistically men are still MUCH more predators than women. The stereotype you mentioned is for their favour, and against honest women... which is unfair. But I totally got your point - you got deeply hurt and friends didn't protect you against the sociopath predator. Trust me, I strongly hate alcoholics now, even if they are just sick people. Just don't let yourself hate females, because it can easily turn against you, your children etc. and society.
ps. I'm not native English speaker, sorry for all the mistakes. If anyone would like to discuss some more on the subject I would do my best in future to check the spelling and grammar, but now I can't.
@Yelkwood9 Im not arguing the utility of defense attorneys, i understand why they exist and why they are important. Some of them however rub me the wrong way (like this one). Put into words I think it´s something like: Fighting tooth and nail using deceptions and manipulations in order to insure that horrible people evade justice. I find them to be repulsive DESPITE their utility, hence i call lawyers that bring forth said emotions, "slimy". It's a disgust response so the name is quite fitting ;)
@Biggy Boris well basically every lawyer is going to use emotions when a jury is involved, a disconnected robot has little chance of making an impression. Humans are emotional creatures, can't avoid it.
That was a pleasure to read, Zmiana, kind words indeed. I took your thoughts away and ended up writing an essay in response...Thought it about time I got those thoughts in order.
I would have thought you a native speaker if you hadn't said otherwise, your English is better than many an Englishman's ["...Or woman's!"]
You caught me there on a point I do need to be more cautious in framing, which I was not in that instance.
Hmm. The old feminism debate is one which I have found requires caution in translating between Nations... As you're no doubt aware, each Nation has its own history to the battle of the sexes which, though relateable from one culture to another, can carry radically different histories. I only say that as my perspective and issues with 'feminism' relate to contemporary feminism in Northern Europe, mainly that common throughout politically left-leaning women in the UK, Germany and France... Though in reality each of these cultures has produced independent women's liberation movements running on their own timeline with different challenges.
The UK was one of the first nations to put women's rights into law meaning the British Isles hosts one of the longest standing, most 'evolved' women's lib/feminist movements.
As regards the UK, I am in full support of the women's lib movement and its achievements... ... last century.
I think today's feminism however promotes a devisive rhetoric which may do more harm than good. That is if measured against an ideal of promoting unprejudiced, peaceful, mutually respectful relations between the sexes... I do not believe that 'mainstream' feminism, taken as a social movement today, on the whole, promotes life enhancing ethics or beliefs to those under its influence. I don't personally perceive women promoting political feminist agendas as positive role models in British society today.
I think the principles promoted by feminism today are responsible for a great deal of suffering in women and men alike and act now, in this culture, to effectively isolate one sex from the other. My major fault with feminism is that it focuses a womans attention solely on her own status, well-being and 'rights' in relationships with the opposite sex. It encourages constant drawing of comparison (even in intimate settings) and constant manipulation of behaviour of both parties to conform to the political ideals of the movement. It also demonises the act of serving a man, irrespective of whether that is voluntary or done out of mutual care and support. Feminists make serving a man a curse and so demonise perhaps the greatest mutual pleasure of love and the very foundation of caring partnerships. It's tragic
Hmm.
Thing is, I have a strange history with feminism... I'm aware it likely leads such outbursts to be terribly mistranslated. I'm going to attempt to frame my perspective... it's not the kind of story you read everyday in youtube comments, might bring a chuckle even...
My great uncle, Derry, was a Catholic Minister. In the 1960's he had a vision, so the story goes, of the Devine Feminine. So, he declared that God was a woman and refused to hear anything to the contrary. He was excommunicated from the church and so set about burning books with a reference to a male God around his castle, in Ireland. A point too amusing not to mention.
He then, together with my great aunt, founded 'The Fellowship Of Isis', a religion venerating the devine feminine to counteract a perceived dominance of the male patriarchy. They transcribed symbolic elements from ancient Egypt into this creation.. a mystic collage.
A temple was created, charity shops were raided, shrines were decorated. Rituals were invented, unclad lovers danced in circles beneath the moonlight, and meditation commenced. It is known that Mick Jagger once walked up to my great aunt in the garden and she had no idea who he was. It was quite a scene.
I met my great Aunt when she was around 90. She appeared in flowing golden robes, her wild squinting eye sparkling with mischief; The High Priest Of Isis. Believe it or not, she sat beside the Dalhai Llama at a conference of world religious leaders. She died at 100.
My Aunt currently heads the fellowship. My mother, bless her cotton socks, is, amongst other things, a musician and, on occassion, played the organ for our local church when I was younger. She would sing the loudest above the tiny congregation and yell "she" everytime the hymn read "he". It was most amusing, the Church of England priest enjoyed the show and played along.
I was an active feminist aged 6. When other boys said I had a girl's name I'd come back with "YEAH?!? AND WHAT'S WRONG WITH GIRLS?!?" ...Which, thinking about it now, won me the immediate allegiance of the girls and left my adversary lacking a kiss.
...So, reality is, I'm a hypocrit. I've played the feminist victim card myself. ...Now I come to think of it.
...Meheh!
But I've had that vision too. Been held in her arms in the fire light, by a woman that knew me like no other... a lover and a mother all at once. She's appeared in my darkest hours, twice. The last, she appeared just before I left France, walked towards me out of my mind's eye and told me to come home. That time she was a Welsh woman born of forgotten valleys, two soft words; all that was needed.
I am doing my best to live up to her command. Since returning from France I've reimagined the forgotten craft of the Welsh Dragons, the arts af working stone with fire, forgotten arts which raised stone henge and the pyramids, the craft that gave birth to the first civilisations and brought about the ten thousand year, global reign of the world encircling serpent - the snake in the garden of Eden was, you see, Adam's dragon craft, in reality and he carried Eve out of Eden with him, on its mighty wings. This is the craft which eventually led to the sword being pulled from the stone i.e. Arthur, Pendragon - 'the dragonhead'. So I intend to reclaim the legacy of the Pendragon and found a new circle of stone to unite those who come togather to raise it with their long forgotten history, their birth right, the keys to immortality and the kingdom of the Gods... One must have a goal in life.
Yesterday I was stood ln the Street and a bus drove up the road with a picture on the side of a statue in the city square of two women, arms around each other, cast in bronze. The slogan read "Celebrating Sheffield's Women of Steel."
I was a metal worker for some years, in industry. I never met any women at work. I know that wasn't due to sexism in the metal working industry. Very few women are drawn to work in heavy industry. Heavy industry is a man's world for quite obvious reasons.
I have to admit, I told that bus to fuck off. The bus company is virtue signalling, nothing more. I have a lesbian blacksmith friend, she's quite good, she's cool as fuck. But, fact is, she's an extreme rarity... that's not about to change anytime soon, nor need it. I live in Steel City, it is built on Steel. Millions of men worked their fingers to the bone in providing for their women folk here over the past century, they built the city, they put knives and forks on the tables of the world, stainless steel was invented here. However, today, what is placed in the city centre to mark that history? A statue of two women promoting an extremely unusual historical instance when they took to working in the steel industry to make ammunitions whilst their sons and husbands fought two of the bloodiest wars in history. Women think its a great statue, obviously.
I arrived in this city in 2019. After a year I was known throughout the music scene in the city, a drummer. I played countless jam nights etc. By the end of a year I was acquainted with all the regulars.
...And something I saw in those places, and all throughout the city became very hard to ignore... Though I'd played in the same stage as them, almost weekly, sometimes backing them, the majority of the women joining that scene would not say hello or acknowledge the fact that we knew each other. Though I was well known, well liked and never showed any signs of being remotely threatening, they would commonly react to a casual greeting as if responding could potentially cause an episode of sexual harrasment. On a daily basis I found women turning their backs to avoid the risk of acknowledgment - this while in freindly public venues surrounded by friends and known individuals.
This atmosphere has got radically worse over recent years and is now the norm here. Walk down a street as a man in Britain today and there's a constant flow of women passing by who are very intently not acknoledging our presence, look to them with a smile and they quickly bow their heads or look the other way, scared victims - nothing about it remotely resembles a culture of 'strong women'. Reality is: they've never been safer nor better protected.
This all-pervading fear of men appears largely due to the ever increasing influence of the contemporary social justice media machine, the #metoo movement serving to persuade young women that all men are potential abusers, power crazed and definitely not remotely like women. This switch emerges from Marxist privelage rhetoric - moving from "lets all try to treat everyone the same" to "All [insert demographic] are opressors by nature, we're victims by birth, if you say we're not you're the enemy!"
So, I think its very important to divide women's political and civil liberation movements with contemporary feminism in countries where women already have all the same rights as men (and more in the UK) and today make up a large proportion of the most protected, privileged individuals on the planet.
In these countries, I think its time feminists shut-up about themselves and learned to treat their fathers, lovers, husbands and sons with the respect they are due. ...Because, the truth is, though it may be shameful to say... if men really did create this world as feminism insists, perhaps feminists should show a little gratitude for it... because the reality is, were it not for the help of their men, women today would be giving birth in the cold without a fire to warm themselves or a bed to sleep in... there'd be no parliament to put their rights into law and they'd definitely not be floating through the stars beside us on the ISS.
But, credit where it's due is something feminists do not do - though they continually demand to be credited for being a woman - irrespective of history, ability, skill, experience or intellect. Hence, aye, personally speaking, if a girl says she is a feminist to me in the UK today, I take it to mean: "I'm prejudiced against men, I blame men, I'm self obsessed, lacking unifying ethical beliefs, and intend to play the victim whilst placing myself beyond criticism and reporting on the fact that men don't appear respect me, strangely enough."
...That may sound like its aimed at the aforementioned woman but it's a front I've met in countless women throughout my life who claim to be representing feminist rhetoric. Acquaintances, partners, personal friends or family members, the rhetoric seldom changes. The most important point is that feminists generally place their beliefs above criticism which, by default, puts them in absolute command unless one is prepared to be dragged through the dirt for disputing grossly sexist simplifications and selective reasoning.
There are though places where womens liberation didn't happen a century ago. I hope those women take a good look at the realities of England's feminists today and ask themselves if perpetual victimhood is for them.
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...Mmm. Something like that anyway. ;-) ...Something to puzzle over.
Just to say, you yourself did not come across like that, hence my reply. Thanks for your positive support and thoughfulness there.
@Jesse P. Watson You might consider copying that thoughts to the notebook for future reference. Great reading!
Thank you for the opportunity to travel a bit through your worlds. I love such generosity in sharing. And offer the same.
Good that I mentioned my English skills, as I would not add the second paragraph to my comment if I senced such a mindful and original soul already diving into feminist ocean as you, mister.
Hope to be back tomorrow with some reflections :)
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Zmiana Pogody2021-06-04 00:57:45 (edited 2021-06-04 07:51:44 )
@Jesse P. Watson Hi Jesse, thank you for great opportunity to discuss.
You descibed an extraordinary history of you highly interesting family – you were raised in respect and sympathy for women, treating them equal to you.
My story is somehow oryginal as well, but from different angle. I have more androgyne approach than most of women and men. For me people are humans in the first place, than they divide by age for kids, middle aged and old, and later they divide by sex. Cisgender people (~90% of humans) see it more like: there are men and women and they together are people. In my opinion sex (or gender) is a secondary factor, in the very first place we are human beings. For cisgendered people gender is a primary factor how they perceive themselves or others.
I’m more human-feminist, than woman-feminist. If we woke up in the world where men are opressed, I would (and I do) fight for men’s favour.
Now, when it comes to your concerns. I agree with you. There are hudge mistakes being made out there. I don’t agree with political movements, I always used to have my own opinions. I see mistakes in my opinions through my life as well. This is why I justify those feminists mistakes and dead ends – nobody’s perfect. Feminism is a reaction to chauvinism. So it’s a reaction to something bad. It’s hard to create a perfect reaction to something bad in the first instance.
I imagine that women on the streets and in the clubs that you described they just have enough of being treated as females only, sexual objects. They want to be treated as you by your colleagues – as a fellow human being.
Imagine the parrarell world when men were perceived by the same factors as women: the look, the sexual attractivness, and the age. I don’t mean sensitive men here who already perceive women as human beings in the first place! I mean those average masculine men, that were raised in the perception, that a woman is somebody totally different than them. I mean the men who want their wifes to be feminine and earn at least a bit less than them only for their ego’s sake. We all know such guys, right? And now imagine the parrarell world when women appreciate mostly 20-30 years old guys, with penises 20+ cm, and earning less than them. HOW would you feel?
You walk the street and women look at your fly in pants. You come to work and you see mostly female bosses hunging out with their female coworkers talking about that hot new male receptionist. They may not admit that, but they think men are a bit stupid. Thanks to God, that men are at least attractive!
Of course I made the picture grotesque.
Are you truly surprised that younger “women on the streets” are afraid to be treated the same way?
I agree that the natural, spiritual, healthy, desired energy flow between man and woman is different than the picture I descibed. But who’s fault it is that it was perverted?
Everybody like to see loads of stuff as women’s fault. Only that the women's faults scale does not match the men's faults scale at all!
Even in this case of Casey Anthony. She is called the most hated woman in America. Most of the comments are that she is pure evil. What about Green River Killer who killed 49 women? What about Ted Bundy? Golden State Killer? And hundreds of murderers and rapists among whom over 90% are men. All of those fathers who killed their children and wifes? All those pedophiles? If Casey Anthony is a pure evil, who were them?
I think that the anger against feminists are similar to this phenomenom descibed above! Chauvinists made a hell for millions of woman. For hundreds of years. There are places where it's going on without any significant stop. There is NO OPTION any even very perverted feminism would do anything even slightly comparable to what was done to females by males.
Don’t get me wrong – I see all mistakes of our contemporary society, including perverted womens liberation movements. But how come that so many ppl blame women in the first instance? And when some women (me including) do the same mistake blaming men for all problems of the world, (which I hope I proved is a bit more historically accurate) why can’t you just justice this emotional mistake?
Maybe... because you're hurt? I am hurt. I see where it comes from in my case. We all need to recover.
I hope your higly interesting job will heal you, and your music. When I was looking where we start our comments, I found that you post some videos as well and I will follow your channel with fingers crossed for your good luck. I didn't seen any yet, but hope to have occassion for some more interesting topics to be discussed in the future :)
What I believe is her boyfriend did it that is why she was able to act noncholeant about by telling herself in her head that she didn't do it and continued to be calm. Also that's why she wanted to talk to him only. She seemed so rude to her parents. Her reactions on the phone she knew the child was gone. She knows what happened at the very least. Mom said the car smelled like a dead body. Did they not investigate that immideatly? I didn't here anything about that. She also knew the child wasn't far cause like I said she moved her body or she knew where it was. Blatantly obvious by the first phone call that she didn't want police on her trail for as long as possible. The defense team is sick. How can you willingly defense someone like her. Think about it like this she lied about the nanny lied about the people she told lied about working wherever not knowing anyone number lack of remorse lack of effort to find the child. She's the mom so if there was no nanny she knew where the child was seen last. When the child was last alive who did it and how. Even if she didn't do and got her bf to do it she deserves to rot in prison either way.
He talks about doing 2 years in homicide before moving to the abused children division which he worked for a few years before this case... so he probably has. 💔
There is a Juliette Louis, only she is an actor in the same union I am part of lol. This Casey was so messed in the head believing she would get away with it. She is sick and a monster.
she may had been evaluated as not being Crazy Psychologically. but that doesn’t mean she isn’t Evil most especially for any Parent to be responsible or so Cold Blooded over their own Child
Here's my take. I firmly believe the biggest mistake that the prosecution made was making it a death penalty case. Cindy Anthony was torn between wanting to protect her daughter and wanting justice for Caylee. I believe that the death penalty tipped her over the edge, she simply couldn't stomach the thought of Casey Anthony, her daughter, being lethally injected. So she lied on the stand, and said that it was her, not Casey, who'd been googling "Chloroform."
Besides that, it is a statistical fact that women, especially photogenic white women, almost never get the death penalty. The death penalty being on the table probably made the jury much less likely to convict than they otherwise would have been. Juries don't seem to have any problem with sentencing people to life without parole, but the death penalty makes them a lot more queasy and more hesitant to actually pull the trigger.
The prosecution made it a death penalty case because they were hoping it would for force Jose Baez to back out, because they believed he wasn't qualified to hand a death penalty case. They assumed that he'd urge Casey to plead guilty as soon as the death penalty was threatened. Boy, were they ever wrong about that. Baez turned out to be the absolute best defender that Casey could have gotten.
@Dr Guck eh... yes it does...it helps everybody in civilised society by giving us the knowledge that theres one less psycho in the world that we need to worry about....
This is why I'm glad there is no death penalty in my country. It removes the possibility of jurors secondguessiny going through with a guilty convinction. Life without parole is the cheaper and more pragmatic option, no amount of blind emotions and thirst for vengeance will mute that fact.
@Calvo Tama What about the people they kill and injure while in custody? Cheaper? It costs the lives of innocence. A serial murderer / rapist that should have been dead raped and killed his guard then fled and was later captured.
@Alyssa Aurora Yeah that sucks the guard died but that happens less than wrongful convictions. Do you have anything to say about the insane amounts of innocent people killed by the death penalty who were found innocent after the fact?
@Calvo Tama They can murder other inmates while in prison though. I'm not making an argument one way or the other, but you saying that they can't murder again is wrong.
Alyssa Turnbill not if we can throw the murderer in jail, preventing him from murdering again while simultaneously preventing the chance of murdering an innocent man and stopping jurors from convicting criminals based on they’re reluctance to sentence someone to death.
Alyssa Turnbill I feel terrible for the nurse and doctor, but they are outweighed by the number of people who have been sentenced to death, only to be proven innocent after they were murdered
@Calvo Tama How did you come to that conclusion? What are the number of innocent people executed? How did you calculate that number? And what is the number of people killed by escapees? And how did you find that number? Thanks.
@Calvo Tama "life without parole is the cheaper option" a syringe with a lethal dose of KCl is like $30, and that's for the medical grade stuff 4 rounds of .308, plus one blank, is less than $0.50
Death row inmates tend to spend at least a decade in prison before their sentence is carried out which adds a lot to the cost though
@Calvo Tama That's because we baby them too much. They get 3 meals, room and board, better healthcare than many. It's not exactly something to fear. Soooo yeah.
@Dr Guck He dropped a nurse and officer month apart. That's not preventing him from murdering again. It's babying him so he can try again when he's ready.
@Dr Guck We have better forensics now than we had 40 years ago. If we know without a shadow of a doubt they need the punishment they offered their victim.
@Reichstreu Study by the national academy of sciemces says 4% of people on death row are innocemt. In your country as far as I remember about 170 people have been found innocent and exonerated from death row since 1973 alone. Separately, since that year 1522 people have been executed, 4% of which is roughly 60-61 innocence more than likely executed [1522 x (4/100)] . In contrast, the amount of escapees from maximum security where all the murderers are sent is so low that for example - from 2009 to 2013 there was literally 1 escape. So do you forsake the lives of the 4% of innocents murdered by your government in case 1 or 2 people escape and maybe kill someone. Idk it's why this issue is controversial and rightly so, but prefer the utilitarian option here.
@Alyssa Aurora I'll refer you to my most recent comment, all the available facts and evidence points to the death penalty killing more innocents than prospective escapees.
@Alyssa Aurora If you don't care about all those people who are wrongfully murdered by the US government that's your perogative but this is why I and most people from other Western countries do not condone snuffing out the lives of people who have done nothing wrong.
@KingHalbatorix On the matter of the lethal injection, if you guys are gonna execute people it should be done with a firing squad at the very least instead. Lethal injection is botched too often because it's not administered by medical professionals, leading to excruciating drawn out death. I can stomach the thought of that happening to the murderers who diednthis way, but the statistics I relayed in a previous comment here asserts that this was the fate of dozens of innocent people. That doesn't sit right to me, just my opinion
@Calvo Tama Oh get over yourself. Just because I don't condone babying a serial child rapist for life because something bad happened a lot back in the 70's doesn't make me supportive of wrongful convictions. This is now, that was then. If guilt is known without a reasonable doubt, they should share the fate of their victims. Their victims had a death penalty with no evidence, no trial and and execution of their assailants choice.
@Alyssa Aurora No you misread, that wasn't the year this all happened this has been SINCE 1973 up until NOW in the US They weren't keeping record of the amount of innocent people killed beforehand, which would dramatically increase the number of people wrongfully executed throughout all of HISTORY
@DangerDan Exactly, they can kill other inmates, nurses, doctors, officers, and many other types of people that have to be near them. Like I tried explaining, more people are killed and/or injured than whatever study this person is referencing.
@Calvo Tama I didn't willfully ignore anything, if you read it again, you'll see I said if we know without a shadow of doubt. Also being innocent and being exonerated are very different things. This is a topic for a different time. I want to talk about people who we know with zero question are guilty. (This is my entire point) For instance, if a man walks into a mall and kills 42 people, should he share the same penalty as a woman who killed her husband?
Alyssa Turnbill again this one awful circumstance doesn’t really hold a candle to all the people who were executed under false pretenses. And ya forensic technology is better than it ever has been, but 50 years ago forensic technology was better than it ever had been until that point. And yet this shit still happened.
@Dr Guck again this isn't one circumstance, it holds more of a candle than you know because I work in it. Several months ao two guards got their heads stomped in by a dirtbag that shouldn't be getting treated better than the homeless in Ca. (that's a story for another time). That's a bs argument, so should we base all our decisions on the salem witch trials and ignore today's forensics? lol well I mean that was what they had then and look what happened. Oh wow. my sides.
Alyssa Turnbill well hopefully the convict in this story was in prison for a crime that warranted a death sentence because obviously that story is irrelevant to the conversation otherwise. But even if he was, the prison industrial complex is a shithole that breeds and necessitates violence within its confines, so again, not really relevant. And before you say that calling prisons as they exist shitholes is contradictory to my argument so far, we can eliminate the death penalty while simultaneously fixing the prisons.
@Dr Guck fck eliminating the death penalty, if you can dish out the death penalty on someone, why can't you receive it? Why should a serial killer get special treatment his/her victim wasn't entitled to have?
It doesn’t really fit the Netflix documentary style. Still good but wouldn’t do good on Netflix.
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Joseph Harding2021-06-07 08:44:26 (edited 2021-06-07 09:58:49 )
It's better because he's solo. An individual content creator. Netflix is a company, he would have to and abide by the way Netflix wants it. Not our man here. I like that he's on YouTube by himself doi g what he wants and intends it to be. It's come out amazing bad better in my opinion then any Netflix series could have. Its straight to the point, and gives us what we want to see and hear! Like the actual full on interviews instead of some narrator sumerizing it in 5 min. Plus why do Netflix when it's here already?
@Joseph Harding I'm pretty sure it's not "solo" but a team of people, making these videos.
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Lady Suda2021-06-07 21:27:18 (edited 2021-06-07 21:30:57 )
@Ghost No “ Cuties “ is what fits Netflix weird criteria better. Who would watch Netflix programmes, documentaries or films after they showed a film like Cuties? Netflix are a disgusting company and I wouldn’t want this channel associated with them
@Bimmers & BBW's Very true indeed. Elisa Lam’s accidental death is a prime example of it. Netflix literally dragged a drowning accident into a 4 one hour episode mini series titled: The Vanishing of the Cecil Hotel. I was so disappointed after I finish watching. 😂🤣😂🤣
@Ghost i agree: true crime tv shows force a fabricated narrative in order to give the feeling that the events are plot points and the victims and perps are characters. this doesn't do justice to the true events and cheapens the experience of learning about real criminal pathology. just look at how netflix left out the part about tiger joe being an adamant white nationalist and added fabricated oversimplifications about how Carroll runs her non-profit, saying the 'colored shirts' were like a cult. Guarantee if you volunteer at any other nice animal shelter, they ALSO have tiered, colored t-shirts to help keep newer people out of dangerous areas. this robs the audience of the experience of true human corruption and teaches the false idea that real life is just like a fable or bed time story with clear right and wrong.
@just a racoon chilling in a toilet he also doesn't pad for time because some episodes are an hour, some are 16 minutes. he uses the material he's gathered and his own commentary and if that turns into an hour, that's what you get. on TV shows, they always have to fill exactly the same amount of time whether the story is a 2 minute story or a 5 hour story.
So Casey didn't graduate high school but her parents pretended she did. Didn't her classmates or other family wonder why she wasn't at the high school graduation?
I am completely astonished! But I tell you one thing, I need that defence lawyer next time I'm in shit I tell you. He earnt his money that day fucking hell.
I am constantly baffled about what is legal in the US. Questioning a suspect without a lawyer, questioning a suspect without informing them that they are a suspect, listening in on phone calls, observing jail visits, it's a bit like easy mode for the police there.
I'm not suggesting Casey's parents caused her to murder their granddaughter, but they weren't good parents at all. It's a lot more difficult disciplining your kids and enforcing the rules, rather than letting them slide. Like the graduation party. Ignoring what she did and proceeding with the party is a lot easier than having to call all your guests and cancel everything. If you wanna raise a kid the right way, be an adult and be their parent, not their best friend. Parenting, even if you're divorced is a team effort, good cop bad cop. Half the bad stuff my kids do is hysterical, and I did the same stuff, but you don't let them know that. You don't have to scream or yell, you're job is simply to set the rules, communicate the consequences and enforce them. It's honestly not that difficult.
Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez sounds like the fakest Spanish name I’ve ever heard, lol, it sounds like someone who doesn’t speak Spanish made up a name similar to what they see on tv when they make fun of Spanish names lol. It still baffles me that she was judged innocent, they had more than a mountain of damning evidence and proved that she cannot be trusted in any capacity, it just blows my mind
@twitterienne i'm talking about the graduation and how they responded to her lies. You think their response to her lies is justified? Any regular parent would have gone to the school n inquired about the mix up in her schedule. Overlooking n actually celebrating her misdemeanors definitely made her think she could get away with bigger things
@Kane What?? Disclose information about what? When they got the letter from her school that she isn't graduating and they questioned her - to which she said "her schedule got mixed up" and that's it. These parents don't tk any action but in fact lie to relatives and throw her a "fake" graduation party. How do u justify that?
@Asha Isadass right, I'm a college student, and my school can't disclose any information about my grades or anything without my explicit consent. Because I'm an adult. Even if they're paying for shit, I get explicit control over what anyone else is able to see about my grades or anything. It's not like high school. If she's an adult, she gets control over that kinda shit.
@Asha Isadass okay, I didn't say anything about or against that. You said "any regular parent would have gone to the school and inquired", that's what I was responding to. They wouldn't have been able to get any information. I don't think their reaction was normal, obviously they've been enabling her her entire life. But they couldn't just go to the school and demand to see her transcripts or records or anything without her explicit consent.
@Kane So if she was missing her school so much that she didn't even have attendance to graduate wouldn't the school have contacted her parents earlier? N she would've been a minor at that point.
@Asha Isadass I'm not going through the video again to check but I seriously, seriously doubt she was a minor. If you wanna give me a timestamp saying otherwise go for it. But I don't believe it rn. And no, they wouldn't if she were in college. It isn't like high school. They have zero obligation to inform anyone else besides the adult attending, why would they when she's a legal adult? That's a total invasion of privacy.
@Asha Isadass exactly! The fact that they knew SHE DIDN’T GRADUATE! But threw her a graduation party anyway, to show an illusion to family... tells you how enabling they are, and no better than her! The apple truly does not fall far from the tree! Ughh
I have seen families with this dynamic and it's very very dangerous. The parents are just as sick as the person (usually their own child) as the person who did the harmful acts. The parents justify it and enable it to no end. How do you think they got so sick, even to become a cold murderer to get what they want?? Easy...they learned from the best..their parents.
what upsets me is how much emotion she shows with her father, how much he cares for her, and then she accuses him of molesting her. that seriously upsets me.
edit : wow i did not expect anyone to even see this haha, but reading the replies i definitely think it could have happened, but casey was also intensely manipulative and deceitful. i guess we will never really know.
Idk...on one hand she got away w murder...but on the other hand the murder was her child...but in the OTHER hand she’s seen as one of the most disgusting and evil people in the world to pretty much everyone who followed the case so I really don’t know why she would be happy in any sort of way
Never thought about how she became this way? Her father saying: "I was not a good father." Why would he say that? The parents cover up things in a strange way, telling people their daughter graduated, when she has not. What else did they cover up? I do not know, you do not know. But it would not surprise me if he did molest her.
@Volker Puttmann His Daughter was in jail for the potential murder of her own Daughter, yeah I think I'd be blaming myself too if that happened. Them covering up for her was an attempt at being good parents because they probably believed her to be telling the truth, perhaps he is also reflecting on those parts and considering that he was wrong to do so.
@Volker Puttmann Any parent blame themselves for their son when they are in trouble, don`t be silly. Like any parent ho has an addicted son`s, would say they`ve not done enough for them. I`ve seen this many times, and tha`s why any parent would say that.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
@RmX yet she knows it is a lie stratrategicly made by her lawyer, she may not have empathy towards anyone but herself, but knows its a lie, like she did misleading the whole investigation and laughinh about it
I wouldn't doubt for a moment of the father's absolute innocence IF they haven't encouraged her lies. They threw a freaking fake party to deceive a bunch of people ffs! And that's just what we know about, things like this don't happen out of nowhere, I bet all their life revolved around appearances and this came natural to them. So I'm not blaming him but I can't say he's 100% innocent, they helped create this monster, and I bet their relationship is screwed up in many levels, that's where her emotion comes from.
We can't even tell if thats true or not either way. Cuz both her parents could've just pretended that the father never did that to her, which would be teaching her what she's so good at which is lying. Imagine being a young child just molested and then the next day you go to mom and she doesnt acknowledge any part of that what so ever. Thats teaching her how to ignore reality as well.
i think the parents excepted that casey was lying and they were prepared to allow here to say anything to get way with it who knows they might have known from day one and helped to cover it up
I have no doubt she killed her child and also that she wasd molested by her father at a point. Lot of victims become emotionally dependent of the abuser, specially when it’s a family member that close. Nonetheless, it’s ridiculous she is walking free these days.
@Maria Priest-Whitly I don’t think you can explain crazy. And to be honest I think that entire family is not well in the head, at least what I consider “well”.
Just saying: there is something really weird about Casey’s and her dad’s relationship. I’m not even suggesting that that could mean abuse tho, but didn’t anyone else find the way he greeted her when she was in jail really strange? I have never heard a father greet his daughter by saying “Her gorgeous”. I had to go back and watch that part again because I doubted what I had heard first. If he said “hey beautiful” or “hey sweetie”, that wouldn’t probably make me think anything of it, but “hey gorgeous”?? It sounded as if he saw a girl he knew from Hooters or something. And then what happened next is also weird. Casey covered her face and half-jokingly mentioned how unattractive she must look at that moment. What a strange interaction between a father and his daughter. Talking about her looks? Casey is a psychopath in my opinion. No one but a psychopath could lie like she did. That comes from somewhere. You don’t have a normal, happy childhood and end up doing what we all know she did. Something in her background was messed up. We may have seen a little peek into the strangeness when her dad greeted her like she was a girl he wished he could have an affair with.
Even if she had a fucked up childhood it doesn't excuse the death of one's own child and lying about who was taking care of her for a month. When she talked to her parents she didn't bring up her own kid, her parents had to do that, her best friend had to do that, yet she just treated that subject like it was a bad final exam.
do whatever you can to get out of jail, even through your family under the bus. She only ever loved herself in this world, the way she's so dejected on the jail phone call even with her best friend is just bewildering
@bella g i was abused and the police would not take testimony as i was "too young." so not all abusers end up being reported. he is still free and able to be around children to this day because they didn't see me as able to give testimony. i was 6. i still remember.
She googled “foolproof strangulation” techniques, but unless we have a video of her on strangling the kid posted online, we can’t convict her? I think my jury position would have been different.
This is one huge example of sexism, the amount of sympathy they get means that if even a single juror starts to get sympathetic everyone follows suit because they are afraid of being seen as bullying a woman. The defense brought forth completely fabricated accusations of sexual assault and that was all they had to do, they had already won after that. The judge should be jailed for allowing literal lies to be brought forth as evidence.
@D U I saw a video in which a law school performed some kind of test on its students. They would present them a real case (idk like murder or something like that) and then they would show a picture of the ''authors'' of the crime. Long short story, pretty girls would get a medium of 12 years less of prison than ''ugly'' girls and 34 years less of prison than men in general; good looking men would also get a couple fewer years compared to ''ugly'' men. Apart from that, it's kinda creepy and twisted to think how the attorney (I get that is what his job is about) made up such a complex dialog to persuade the judges away from the real punishment the accused should've received, which in my opinion should've been isolation for the rest of her miserable life. What a twisted fuck you gotta be to murder your own child and lie about it.
@D U They see a women crying and think theres no way she could murder her child. Guarantee you if that was a man and everything was the exact same that man would've been sentenced to death or life in prison
You know, there is such a thing as statistical reasoning. If the rate of people over 200 IQ is 1 in 100 million for example, and I assume some nobody on Youtube has an IQ below that, it's still a pretty good deduction even if I "dOn'T kNoW hIs lIfE"
Anyways, it seems to be "that time of the month" for you so I won't write any further lol
@KH_QFT you talk about iq but bring in what I’m assuming is a period joke? Even though I don’t get periods and it’s not even pertaining to these topic ? So clearly your social understanding is well below average especially because anyone with a brain knows the traditional iq placement testing is outdated and incorrect.
It was overlooked and not brought up at the trial. Why? Because they only browsed her internet explorer history, not checking her firefox history. That piece of evidence wasn't brought up until after.
Casey's choice of an alternative internet browser saved her ass.
Casey anything’s mom cindy was really close to Caylee so Casey was jealous and sometimes cindy would tell Casey that she’s an unfit mum that’s why Casey never really let cindy and her dad baby sit her
Bad argument. What if she's into true crime like we obviously are? She could be searching for news stories or crime cases. Just gotta think of one counter example and thats reasonable doubt or at least close to it
@Johnny Morris But, it is possible that they found her reaserching the same killing method used on her daughter without finding other reaserches inherent to crime cases or killing methods in general? Like, it doesn't sound a bit weird like that?
@Queen Sasha Waybright I was actually thinking this was a joke until I looked it up and apparently it's true, I'm fucking shocked that their investigation was not thorough which ultimately led up to her getting away with it.
the craziest thing ever after reading this comment was that THIS was not enough!! THAT is not concrete evidence. like, thats why she got away with it. the prosecutions case didnt have much concrete, direct evidence. its crazy. shes literally walking free rn
@Queen Sasha Waybright Theres so many more damning pieces of evidence in this case that were discovered afterwards... check out The Last Podcast on the Left episodes on Casey Anthoney. 1 big example I remember is that the fake babysitter name was actually a combination of two of her parents neighbors last names and conveinantly the body was found almost dead center between the two.... Also the fact that she refers to "Zanny the Nanny" and was a party girl makes it pretty clear she was giving her daughter xanax to knock her out.
@Akami Channel that's why in most states there are 12 jurists and they don't all agree on much of anything lol if we were both jurors, I'd say there is reasonable doubt and you would not...
@Johnny Morris I feel like the word "foolproof" makes it pretty clear that it was more than an interest in true crime, but I see what you're saying. This is why prosecutors need more than one piece of evidence to form a solid case.
Because its not necessarily evidence that she committed murder. First it would have to be shown that she was the one who searched that. And even if she did it in no way proves that she actually did murder her daughter. Who doesn't search for random stuff online? I once search how to build a pond but never built one.
i think the issue was, was that it had been around 6/7 months when they found her body, so it had decomposed a lot already and they couldn't confirm that the cause was suffocation (even though it probably was) or a date of death. otherwise i 100% think she would've been charged (although i do believe she did it...the fact that she waited 31 days to report that her daughter was 'missing' screams guilty itself)
@I RUIN YOUR DRAMATIC COMMENTS not only women but everyone cherish appearance and pleasure more than life lol i got trigger for a second but your trolling is kinda funny
@Melanie Jacob who the fuck gets jealous of their own 2 year old? I'd be all about it if my mom cared that much about my kid. the more love for them the better.
@Tiffany Anne Yeah I also randomly search methods of killing for fun.
She randomly searched “foolproof suffocation” that just happened to be the way her daughter was murdered, the day her daughter went missing. Nah you’re right, just a coincidence.
To top it off, she never reported her daughter missing and then all her provided evidence were lies. Yeah 100% innocent for sure
@Queen Sasha Waybright it’s actually because the search on Firefox didn’t correlate correctly with the prosecutions timeline of when Casey left the house that day. The dad said it was 12:30pm but the search happened at 135 pm. Also her AIM and MySpace was open at that time. If I were prosecution I would’ve included that search even if it impeached George’s testimony. I mean the kid was suffocated to death. The defense knew of this search too. In mid 2008. The defense attorney even admitted its true years later that in July 26 2008 he said on the phone that Casey killed her child and they just need to find the body before anyone else does.
@Gabriel I wonder if you would say this about her if she were a man 🤔. Too many sexists in America want to pick on women and single mothers in particular. And it's especially disgusting on your part to attack a mother who lost a child. The evidence simply wasn't there. Her child's cause of death was conclusively established. The phone searches don't prove that she's the one who searched them or that she had an intention to carry out what was searched.
So her parents not only hid the fact of her not graduating but threw her a graduation party and went to the extent of saying she graduated with honors. I understand a parent feeling embarrassed or like they failed for this kids not graduating but enabling such behavior and their own fabrications must have been an influence on her through life.
100% I cannot believe they don't understand how damaging that is...but then again (as someone who hasn't had any children) I can kind of see it from their POV. I know they want their child to feel good about themselves, as a normal parent should. But coming from the opposite side, I guess I don't really have a say. (I graduated with honors and my mother did not bother to show up at my graduation for highschool or for community college). Even though I always sought out my mothers acceptance, which I never received, I think that trauma was better than having a mindset like this. Your parents cannot save you from federal court in MOST cases. RIP Caylee.
I saw an interview with the parents/grandparents by Chris Hanson, and it truly reveals the dysfunctional family dynamic.
The mom is an ABSOLUTE enabler. She thinks Casey has never done drugs, blames “possible seizures” for all of Casey’s lies as “memory loss”, and doesn’t think Casey killed her granddaughter.
The dad on the other hand; he knows his daughter is a sociopath who murdered his granddaughter in cold blood— but he won’t just come right out and say it (because his wife stares him down and gets angry any time he suggests Casey isn’t an angel). It’s so painfully obvious how he feels, and he does say that Casey belongs in prison. He seems like a shell of a man who’s been beaten down and manipulated for decades by his wife and daughter.
Yes!!! I read a book 📖 on this... Casey began lying during her senior year. Skipping the majority of the 2nd semester. She lied to her parents about how the school made a mistake regarding why she didn't get her cap and gown . Then she later said she wasn't graduating because the school didn't give her full credit classes... her mom still threw her a graduation party. Then she lied about not being pregnant when she was asked.. it wasn't until she was like 7 months pregnant she admitted it. Casey stole about 40,000 from her parents over time said by a financial advisor... she stole money from her grandmother and even had the audacity to take money out of her grandmother's separate account that was set up for her grandfather while he was in a convalescent home.... who does that?! Cindy(Casey's mom)offered to pay her mom(Casey's grandmother) back ... why would you pay back money your adult daughter stole? She lies, she steals money from everyone, she's an awful human imo. I think she lied and got away with it for so long with no repercussions she felt invincible.. her mom didn't help but let her continue to get away with it
Absolutely!! So many parents run their childrens emotions out the door. The parents wanted their trophy degree on the wall for bragging If not you were treated like 3 rd class citizen. I’ve witnessed parents do this to a point young adult suffer depression and suicide
I don’t think her parents felt embarrassed, not at all. They just did it for her, to make “sweetie” happy. This is a person who uses people and her parents for her own benefits. And the biggest mistake her parents made was to get along with her sick twisted mind. In this way they fed her lies, so it became normal for her. At the end she truly believed her own lies. This is very strange and awkward behavior and again she get rewarded, she gets away with it. This is a story about lies and a person who believes in her own lies and gets away with it every time.
@Corgalicious the father that Casey's attorney mentions about having molested her - is that the gray-haired man in the video, or is he the step-father? I need to find the interview you mentioned. This whole thing is absurd.
@Stephers It’s her father; Casey doesn’t have a step-father. Her parents are still married. Here’s part 1 (there are 3 parts) of the interview I mentioned:
Influence is putting it nicely. I was surprised the video did not cover this fact more. This is probably one of the main moments in her life where her ability to lie and get away with it motivated her to continue doing so. We can only hope God saves her at this point. Christ....
This totally plants doubt for me that maybe her Dad hypothetically could've helped her hide the body and/or just knew the whole time and just didn't say anything to help her cover it up. Like he's done to her his whole life.
They (parents) also seem like nice parents/people who gave their daughter so many chances. Defence then goes and throws the dad under the bus with the whole child abuse story. The parents are nothing but tools to her.
Lo que es una locura es que si matas a tu propia hija de 2 años vas a la cárcel eres una asesina, pero si matas a esa misma niña en la barriga, o sea la abortas eres lo máximo, todo el mundo te apoya, me perdí algo???
Brian T. ... i watched that whole trial ... how on Gods green earth that jury did not find her guilty i'll never understand ... it just makes me mad she is free , not a care in the world ..and that baby is dead ... she dosen't care ... there is a special place in He## for people like her ...
I don't think she killed her daughter, but I do think she tried to cover up her daughter's death. I think what most likely happened was that her death was accidental, it doesn't change the fact that she's obviously duplicitous and doesn't seem to care in the least about what happened. She was more concerned about her own life and pleasures than she was about reporting her daughter's death.
@M.B.M. Yes. My point is that I don't and we dont know what actually happened unless more evidence appears. And nobody is convicted or called murderer without evidence.
@Brainy Smurf sad how many idiots will cry about 'muh inequality' without realizing objective statistics such as females receiving sentences that are essentially a slap on the wrist compared to men for the same crimes. Feelings over the injustice would have swayed the jury beyond doubt if it were a man in the same scenario.
@Jos sa It was because the defendant lawyer tried to convince them that Casey Anthony was not guilty, but in fact she was. It was a emotional roller-coaster ride through the jury's minds and ultimately they were persuaded by the defendant lawyer's clever words.
@psychic crocodile no I think she got away with everything bc she looks appealing. Idk who killed kaylee. I suspect casey, because she was tormented by jealousy over the closeness of kaylee to her grandma. However, I dont know if anyone else can see the look in Caylee's eyes and the fake smiles but I think she was already mentally fractured. Which makes me suspect grandpa. They didnt mention the 'kaylee drowned in the pool' thing here, did they? A child's emotional development begins in the womb. The next 12 years are crucial, yet plenty of parents think of their babies as empty headed know-nothings just as they do animals. That's dumbing down for ya.
East Coast Girl I still don’t get it. It was an accident so they decided to pick the drowned toddler’s body, wrap it in garbage bags, put tape on its mouth as a ‘sweet gesture’, and throw it in the woods, not even too far from the house.. not even bury it, so it was scavenged by the animals in the forest to the point that the head and other parts were found separate. I try to understand a twisted universe where this is a sweet gesture but It is just impossible. The doctor who did the autopsy said in court that in her experience all of these are clear signs of murder and and sorry but I have to agree here. The lawyer is charismatic for sure, and the grandfather should face a trial himself given the accusations, but don’t get carried away from common sense.
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jane doe2020-08-07 18:07:57 (edited 2020-08-07 18:10:20 )
@Paula Suarez well, 'drowned in the pool' was what they said, not me. I think they're narcissistic psychopaths and that would be the reason why you cannot grasp how a sticker would be interpreted as being 'sweet'. I watch way too much true crime and have been seriously interested in forensic psychology for decades. I have both experience and insight that helps me interpret things I used to try so hard to find an answer for. I'm always interested in the why of things. I wanted always to find what was wrong with me...why things happened, what did I do? Instead I discovered there are psychopaths. There are two psychological components to having placed a sticker and where it was placed: one's conscious and one's subconscious. Kaylee was old enough to string words together. She may have been percieved as a potential threat. A sticker over her mouth would be a subconscious tell. Casey's jealousy of her daughter's relationship with Cindy Anthony was definitely a factor as well and accounts for her complete lack of interest in the 'disappearance' of kaylee. Casey may have acted alone to hurt her mother. It's a pretty effed up family, overall. Casey's brother seems decent but he's kept himself out of the family circle for the most part.
@jane doe I think it has to do with her age and gender too. They didn't want to put a 22 year old to death and they weren't certain it was premeditated, though I do believe her journal proves it was. There was somebody clever on the jury who focused on proving to the others there was reasonable doubt and none of the others recalled the details enough to refute it. The trial was a shitshow.
@ryuzakikun96 If her death was accidental then why was tape placed across her mouth and why did Casey write in her journal that she did the right thing and how happy she was about it?
@jane doe it was the jury not having the stomach for a death penalty conviction. Imagine if you had to actually be the one who executed her if you found her guilty. It would bug you out right? Probably its going to shift your assessment of her guilt in her favor heavily too. Its hard to know that you are basically pushing the button on someone like that.
The evidence was heavily against her but there was still enough leeway for someone who was looking for a way out for her.
@ItsPeytn yeah it's basically how OJ got away with it too; everyone knows she and he are murders but you can't provide any clear evidence that they did it they get away with it
@psychic crocodile she just had no makeup on thats how all girls look like lol.... you would never say that to a random person but because you know she is accused of murder you say that
@Paula Suarez Never try to figure out acts of the criminally insane. Logic has no place there. The sticker applied on top of the tape on tiddler's mouth is the empty gesture of someone who looks human but has lost the ability to feel higher human emotions
@Paula Suarez There is literally no reason for the grandfather to face trial. Ridiculous to claim such a thing when there is zero evidence presented and it's clear that this is just used to scapegoat her behavior.
@ryuzakikun96 I can see why if not for two key things. Why was she googling fool proof methods of suffocation and why did Caylee’s body have tape over the mouth and nose? The body sitting in her trunk for so long could make it seem like it was accidental, I give you that. But, if she’s not guilty of first degree, third degree is indisputable.
@Mirai Nikki honestly she doesn’t look attractive to me but usually women of beauty standards (which she pretty much is) usually walk out with basically a slap on the wrist
The prosecution's job is to prove that the defendant committed the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. The forensic evidence was sloppy and the prosecution relied way too heavily on character evidence and trying to assert that Ms. Anthony is a "bad" person. And while we all know she is indeed a bad person, that does not change the fact that the prosecution clearly failed to piece togther what exactly happened to Caylee Anthony and prove that Ms. Anthony was responsible for it. This is our justice system, it isn't perfect, but I'd much rather see the occasional guilty person let off scot-free than to see a criminal justice system that does not put the burden of proof on the state.
@ryuzakikun96 The media blew this case into the stratosphere. I firmly believe that jury selection was a big factor in the outcome. The prosecution misread the jury and presented the case in a "traditional" manner. The defense attorneys knew better and had an idea of exactly what they were looking for during jury selection. To have no knowledge of this case at the time a person would have had to be living under a rock. The defense came out swinging hard because they knew exactly the type of jury they were speaking to. Florida law is also a major factor in the outcome. It's generally vaguely written, that is why the prosecutors had to pile on so many charges. I do fully agree that I'd rather see the occasional guilty person get let off than have an innocent person put behind bars.
@ryuzakikun96 Most people don't actually understand what "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" means. They assume it means you have to be SO certain, there can be no reasonable doubt whatsoever that you are wrong. This is NOT the case. "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" means, "A normal person, given the information you have been given, would reasonably presume guilt." The "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" meaning is actually very lenient. If it is "More likely than not" that the person is guilty, beyond reasonable doubt means you should find guilty. Unfortunately, folks have gotten that all twisted around in their heads. They think it means some crazy standard of proof that just isn't necessary.
@Paislee Fiddyment yes, but it also has to be unanimous in a NOT GUILTY verdict. otherwise you have a hung jury and an acquittal (which can be re-tried.)
@Jane Doe X Just reasonable doubt. Not beyond any doubt. If it more likely than not that Casey googled it... that satisfied reasonable doubt. Sadly, folks don't actually know what "Beyond reasonable doubt" means.
that lawyer was pretty good at what he do though, he created doubt and if I'm not wrong, they only need 1 person out of the 12 to say shes not guilty to have the not guilty ruling.
@barbara grace Prosecutors sometimes go for an all or nothing approach. They want the jury to choose between the most serious offense or nothing. They hope the jury will be reluctant to let Defendant walk away with nothing. More sensible prosecutors will add a lesser charge. For example, a DUI with bad driving and no breath/blood test: the more sensible prosecutor will amend to add count 2, reckless driving, which is not a lesser included offense, but will more likely get something out of the case.
It was the DA’s fault not how great the defense was. Sure, she was guilty but of what? Was if premeditated or an accident? How did the crime happen? The prosecution left too many holes that the jury had little choice. If the DA had charged her on a lesser charge, they would have convicted.
D1agram exactly. That’s the real reason she got away. The Prosecutor did a very bad job proving 1st Degree Murder but so confidently talked as if they knew it was 1st Degree. They left no room for it being an accident. And the reality is no one knows if it was an accident or if the kid drowned in the pool while Casey was drunk. The accident theory seems a bit more believable to me.
ryuzakikun96 I get your point but tell that to the people that are wrongfully in jail just because they are accused of doing something and no evidence has presented to prove the accusation. I think you know what i’m talking about though..
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The issue in the case was that none of the evidence could actually 100% prove murder though, because the defence lawyer came up with a plausible explanation for how it could have been manslaughter or 2nd degree murder, The problem was the charge they gave her. If they hadn’t used 1st degree, it would have gone through. But for 1st degree murder, you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt someone intended and planned to kill someone ahead of time.
Casey is the type of person to avoid responsibility and just pretend things haven’t happened. One time, she was fired from her job, and in response, she just kept on showing up day after day and working normally, acting like she wasn’t fired until people noticed her that day, and told her to leave. And she just kept on showing up, day after day, until her parents intervened.
So, she has a track record of going out of her way to maintain her borderline delusional image of “normal life”. Is it really impossible to believe that if Casey was negligent, and her daughter drowned while she was on her phone, that she really would just wrap the body up, out in in the wood, and just pretend nothing had happened and everything was still normal? Or at the least, that she “let” her daughter play by the pool until she accidentally feel in, and then pretended not to notice until she had drowned, and then hid the body?
The issue was that this IS a plausible explanation. And even if you think it’s not what happened, in order to be found guilty of something, it has to be the ONLY plausible explanation for something. So even if it was probably a murder, as long as there’s another explanation that is legitimatly equally viable, you can’t find someone guilty of it.
@H W “I’m not telling you anything! You’ll get nothing from me!” Solo growled as two stormtroopers secured his wrists above his head with cuffs attached to a hook on the ceiling and his feet with shackles on the floor.
Although he wasn’t quite spread-eagled, the stretch was sufficient to be uncomfortable, and Solo’s arms were supporting most of his body weight.
“Leave us,” Vader said to the two stormtroopers.
They saluted and made a quick exit.
“Give me your worst, Vader! You won’t be able to do—” Solo gurgled and wheezed as Vader pinched his airway partially shut.
He didn’t have to listen to this.
Whatever Vader wouldn’t ‘be able to do’ died unvoiced on Solo’s lips.
He could keep this up for a while – denying Solo enough air to speak but not so much that he lost consciousness or died of suffocation.
Solo continued wheezing and choking, saliva bubbling and dripping from his parted lips as Vader paused to consider his course of action.
The stormtroopers had already punched Solo in the gut a few times when he was first taken prisoner.
Something different would be more effective as an opening salvo.
Hmm.
Old-fashioned bone-bending, perhaps?
Yes, that should do.
Vader would start with bone-bending.
With a flick of his gloved fingers, the long bones in Solo’s arms and legs began to warp themselves into unnatural curves.
Bending, bending, bending, but not quite enough to snap and break.
Vader knew exactly where to stop.
Solo eyes bulged and began to leak tears as he tried to gulp the air to scream.
Vader decided not to allow it.
Not yet.
He tightened his grip on Solo’s windpipe ever, ever so slightly.
The excruciating pain made it easy for Vader to penetrate Solo’s mind.
Time to up the ante further.
Now Vader caused all of Solo’s nerve endings everywhere in his body to fire at once, a sensation of unspeakable, unimaginable but wholly phantom pain – worse by far than the pain of being electrocuted or burnt – on top of the real pain of the bone-bending.
Solo’s gauche clothes were soaking wet with perspiration; his mind was a supernova-bright explosion of agony.
He tried screaming again.
Again, Vader did not let him.
All in all, Vader thought, this was going well.
Solo did not want to scream in defiance or anger.
His scream would be a mindless plea for mercy, for succor, for an end to his suffering.
He wanted to be saved.
This was exactly the kind of intense emotion Vader needed him to project across the vast expanses of the galaxy.
And yet…
And yet.
It wasn’t quite enough.
Solo hated pain, was unmanned by it, that was true, Vader could see that in his mind.
But there was something the smuggler hated even more—
How amusing.
A shame Vader was no longer young.
Once, he would have been able to make Solo’s worst nightmares come true the old-fashioned way, his body pushed into Solo’s, taking his pleasure from the exquisite friction of flesh against flesh as Solo writhed on the impalement, humiliated by his vulnerability and the unmasking of his most shameful, secret desires—
Abruptly, the neuropathic pain stopped, and Solo’s bones straightened.
Solo sagged in his restraints, chest heaving, panting for breath that still wouldn’t quite come.
Vader gave him no more than a split second’s reprieve before, with another flick of Vader’s gloved fingers, Solo’s anus began to stretch.
He didn’t understand what was happening at first.
He was too brutalized, too exhausted, to notice what Vader was doing to him.
That changed, however, when Vader curled his fingers into a fist.
Solo’s back arched, and he threw his head back and writhed, trying to exhale, trying to scream, as his anus was stretched to a circumference equal to Vader’s fist, as the unnatural invasion began to progress deeper.
And deeper still.
He started moving in and out of Solo, punching, pounding in and out of him with all of the dark Force energies he could muster.
Solo’s thoughts were incoherent blurts of pure emotion; if he could have spoken he would have been begging and pleading – though whether for Vader to stop or never to stop neither Vader nor Solo were entirely certain.
The penetration continued, wracking Solo’s already much-abused body with a humiliating, intoxicating blend of pain and pleasure.
Solo’s pants were bulging at the groin; he was aroused and appalled by his arousal and horrified by how close he was to coming—
Solo started to orgasm.
Vader rammed his power home into Solo for a final time, the extent of the stretch monstrous, obscene as the insertion of a hand and the arm it was attached to, to the elbow and beyond, and as Solo ejaculated uncontrollably, torso jerking with each violent pulse, Vader at last released his hold on Solo’s windpipe.
Luke would definitely hear that scream, wherever in the great wide galaxy he was.
Save me, Solo’s mind screamed over and over, helpless, desperate, reduced to base, animal terror, save me.
It seemed practically neverending, and it was everything.
Amenities or no amenities, overall Vader was most pleased with the outcome of the interrogation.
He summoned the two stormtroopers back into the holding cell.
@Jazz Feline I think you’re misunderstanding me here. Jury nullification doesn’t mean “there wasn’t a jury”. It means “the jury decided to rule against the evidence”.
Legally, it’s the jury’s responsibility to come to a verdict. But it’s under absolutely no legal requirement whatsoever to actually use any of the evidence or the trial to come to that verdict. It can legally come to whatever decision it likes however way it likes, and it’s decision is valid and final. CGP Grey did a good video on it. A common example of this being used is back in the 1850s, where abolitionist some juries would use it to let runaway slaves go free even when they “should” have been returned. And some extremely racist juries used it to make black people they knew were wrongfully accused of being runaways and were actually free to go into slavery anyways, because they felt all black people should be enslaved.
The OJ Simpson case was obviously him killing both of them. That was obvious to the jury too. But there were members of the jury who wanted to find him innocent as a political statement against the LAPD and racism in America anyway. They were the most passionate about their position and held out the longest. And eventually the rest of the jury gave in.
Gregg Wigen they didn’t have to prove she bought the duct tape most people have some in the home already. And if the baby drowned why would there be duct tape around her skull when it was found If you’re going to hide and lie about an accidental death Why do you put duct tape around a dead child’s mouth???
@delsolman24 There are plenty of insane trials where terrible people have been let off. But that satanic rite you're mentioning has been debunked. It's all false information. The case was actually brought up in several of my college psychology lectures as a prime example of what happens when psychology goes wrong. Basically, her therapists kept asking her loaded questions and put her into states of semi-hypnosis where they would actually plant false memories (unintentionally of course) of supposed satanic rituals. Her stories were proven false time and time again when parts of her stories would self-contradict, and people she accused would prove their innocence. The reason she passed all tests was because she herself truly believed in the stories - they were real false (oxymoron, I know) memories implanted by her therapists. If you want true stories of sick and twisted people getting off scot free, look no further than this case, or many other cases in the justice system.
@jordyy🍒 I was thinking that too. The accidental drowning through negligence would be totally believable except for the duct tape. What possible use was there for that?
Blake Jhonshen what about the physical evidence of child birth? She was 11-12 range. Besides how can so many stories of identical situations keep getting brought up. I think this is not a case of BS.
Blake Jhonshen thoughts on all the Epstein/Ross and elite clients and friends. Is that mass hysteria? These stories literally go on forever. Not saying some situations are not made up but way more than you think or ever come to light.
@delsolman24 Well yeah, there are stories about sexual abuse by high-ranking people across the world. That's true. But they aren't satanic rituals where they practice cannibalism and eat miscarried babies. You're confusing fantasy and reality.
@Jordan Angle and you'd think females would be less likely to let off a mom like that. I was in state prison when Mary Jean Armstrong went in. She was beat within an inch of her life for her crimes. In men's prison, its the cp/r@p!sts, in women's, its the abusive moms that get the violence.
most of the jury said there is not enough evidence to support to place guilty on Casey. But what about fingerprints on the car and daughter that would connect to Casey at least.
Shame on humanity for producing a justice system that relies on 12 untrained people, who are likely swayed by emotion rather than logic, to determine whether or not they were guilty. It's such an outdated system, and it's still in use today. It's so smart.
There are plenty of crappy people walking this earth. The thing is is my definition of a "dumb" or "crappy" person probably isn't exactly the same as yours.
@-00- -00- None of what you said is evidence that she killed her daughter. We know she's guilty in hindsight, but the prosecution tried pressing the wrong charge and there was reasonable doubt.
-00- -00- They tried to accused her for something they couldn’t prove, instead of third degree murder they should’ve accused her of second degree murder which would’ve been much easier to prove seeing her general lack of concern for her daughter’s well-being.
I do not think she is innocent in the slightest, but I think the prosecution made some grave mistakes.
How did they not find her guilty on child endangerment??? She didn't report her missing for 31 days! Things like this make me believe it would be better if humans go extinct
@gutenbird Then why the duct tape over the child's face then? The truth is that with all the lying and interactions with her firsthand, they did think her a horrible person, horrible enough to do this,and her not calling to report her child missing was as glaring as it gets. The defence probably convinced her to tell the truth about what happened and ruled it as an accident and made her horrible character work in her favor. But that didn't explain the duct tape, unless she was trying to make it look like her daughter was abducted by a serial killer and killed in such a horrible fashion that would deflect blame from her, her mother. Maybe that's why she googled all the stuff to know how to stage it. What do you think of this?
If the prosecution was serious,. they would have tested for the fluid in her lungs that killed her, stuff like this should be routine for the autopsy. How was she killed and was she killed somewhere else,and dump here? These are things they should have done routinely to counter anything the defence can come up with. Instead they let a crazy person walk free. If it was negligence then I feel alittle sorry for her, as a woman and a mother.
@Gregg Wigen Dude, did you just say that "beyond reasonable doubt" and "more likely than not" is the same standard of proof? Because it is not at all.
That’s insane! so did her dad do that to her was she molested?!!!! What what it’s like she got the guy from devils advocate what in the what!! His salary must be millions
@Broccoli_Jaeger no proof???? She searched on the internet how to suffocate someone, wrote in her diary that she was now happy since her daughter was dead, and every single part of her story was a lie
@Pink Oreo _ don't you feel like it was more a general pretty privilege thing in her case that helped her? I mean in my opinion she has evil eyes but she's still close to the beauty standards of the time and I feel like any woman, regardless of her skin color, whose looks are further away from the beauty standards would've had a way harder time getting away with what she did. I just feel like if she was overweight, had crooked teeth, a less tidy looking haircut etc. she wouldn't have gotten away with this as easily - regardless of skin color.
@NoSoul NoProblem pretty privilege is a thing but i don't think it played a part here. it seems like most murder cases women get off more easier than guys. why that is, I'll never know, but that's just what I've seen so far
@Samantha Fujiwara Out of everyone, the only person all of y’all could come up with was, OJ Simpson 😂😂 and that says a lot! Unless you’re a person of color, you’ll never understand the difference.
@esther fisher she's not pretty as in she's some beauty queen but she's girl next door pretty enough. She looks perfectly average girl next door. Not too thin or too thick for that, not too pretty or too ugly for that. Not too old or too young for that. Not too in your face or too much of a wallflower.
I think regardless of whether you personally think she's pretty that had a part in it.
She's also a brunette and brunettes are usually subconsciously judged to be more trustworthy, responsible, reliable and mature than blondes, redheads and women with black hair.
@Bam Bam oh you mean like OJ! Hahaha, gtfo with your victim hood mentality. Try being a better person and put your victim card back in your pocket. Trade in your tissues for work shoes, get out there and do something with your life. That’s the issue. Oh! And inner city violence… yeah let’s put a stop to that.
This is what happens when random people get to make legal decisions because we're too lazy to go off of only evidence. And when you use conspiracies and blame the media for everything including sullying her 'good' reputation. You can get away with murder, and even become president.
@VitriolVic yea she actually does. That's why it's irritating that she has gotten away with it. Michelle Parker was another Orlando girl that went missing and no one could seem to find out what happened. Orlando cops can't do their job
@Melissa Vickery I'm certain she never admitted guilt to anyone except for whoever was with her at the time/accomplice. Yes, of course, she's guilty but there was no actual proof of anything. Her DNA was nowhere to be found. We know she's guilty, we simply can't prove it, sadly. I'm wondering if they charged her with a lesser incriminating charge, ie. involuntary manslaughter, if they coulda got her then. She's obviously responsible for whatever happened to her daughter, she was in her care when she died. Sad story all around & I followed the entire proceedings on Court Tv. She got off cuz she banged her lawyer, who put on a career-making defense. He became the #1 defence attorney upon his win.
Notice in call with parents from jail She keeps using past tense like "you were great grandparents to her" " she was very lucky to have you"..she only corrected herself once.
@SE Mowery It doesn't matter who rules the Empire then the Empire is in terminal faze. At this point, inertia alone will bring about collapse and implosion of the whole Empire. We not taking into account how the other 3 Empires will act then we finally implode (China, EU, Russia). At this point the fate if US is sealed. Divided house can not stand. The nation is divided, broken, demoralized, and absolutely in conflict with it self. Brother against brother, mother against daughter, father against the son; neighbor against neighbor. This is beyond salvageable. I suggest, you prepare for imminent collapse of the Empire, insuring chaos, loss of services, collapse of law, and starvation. The fact what most of our crops are destroyed, and pandemic stifling food production, will only make the process so much worse and lethal. Good luck to all of us, we will need it.
@SE Mowery you can tell by her moma reaction that she was there to confirm her suspicions, you se it the exact moment sh missuses past particle her mom just dies inside
Funny thing is...the only reason to mention that specific thing in this court case was to gain sympathy.
It had no relation to the murder. It had no relevance to the case. Except to generate sympathy.
You try to get sympathy from the jury because you're trying to sway them or cushion the courts judgement of you.
Because she did it.
If people accuse you of something you didn't do, you fight - argue - you ask "what the fuck is wrong with you"....you don't go about trying to place blame elsewhere like "you can't really blame me because..."
More importantly - just because daddy touched your NO NO doesnt mean its cool to kill your kid. So how THIS was again EVEN FUCKING RELEVANT is beyond me.
Well, we can't say for certain he never sexually abused her. Let's just say Casey Anthony did not win her personality at the local fair. 'watch out, there is an apple falling from the tree'
@DukeNukem Unfortunately, they didn't put her on the witness stand so she could say it herself. So, after the trial is almost complete they bring it up only during the closing statements. If she would have said in court she would have been cross examined and then it would be over for her. She'll get hers in time.
D C By the time she had the child, they already knew how irresponsible and a liar she was. They smelled a dead body in her car and couldn’t find the child and couldn’t press her because denial. The mom was partying and not telling anyone about the child ‘disappearing’ 31 days earlier. The parents condoned/enabled...and I’m sure a psychiatrist could go back and examine how this woman turned out this way, like they’ve done with OJ.
DukeNukem nope. Not possible. In America you cannot be charged with a crime that you have already been acquitted of. It’s called double jeopardy. Sad but true.
Lon Spector you did NOT just seriously say that. There is no redemption for child killers. None. Quite frankly anyone who has empathy for them is someone to be highly suspicious of.
she killed her kid for sure, she wrote it on her journal theres no doubt about that, and sure she threw her dad under the bus sure that just another lie, but im saying that she needs help, prisons gonna do no good
I'm an Senior IT Manager. I say people 10 times a day they should f*ing document their code and shouldn't close their user stories without testing. The same thing.
12:31 Holy shit, at this point at the video I was like "If you´re gonna tell me now 'Zenaida doesn´t exist', I´m gonna freak the fuck out" ! Oddly enough, that I called it, but holy shit, I just had to say something here, this is so far beyond insanity, I can´t even comprehend anymore. I need some dialogue, I need some people to explain this to me or otherwise make sense....
@Sioax Aerikenlooks like the need to try her for Perjury and lying... That's a new trial. And each and every single other crime she committed the moment she obstructed justice
I watched the entire the trial. They excluded the jurors from quite a bit of the crucial evidence presented by the prosecution. How can a jury come to any proper conclusion when they are not privy to "all" of the information and arguments being presented by both sides? It is like completing a jigsaw puzzle which has pieces missing, incomplete. Or expecting a recipe to turn out successfully without key ingredients. The whole thing stunk.
Personally it’s sad but we weren’t in the court room it’s not fair to say the jury failed her the production did a terrible job and your only flaw with her is her emotion on her child. I agree she 100% did something here even if it was giving her child away and was happy she didn’t have to have her child. Can you say that she 100% killed her daughter or could she have watched someone else kill her child. No one knows anything all we know is she wanted her daughter gone/dead.
@N. D. M. "illegal to have another trial for the same crime once a verdict is given. Even if more evidence is found."
True, and it's a completely bullshit rule. This should not by applied to extremely violent crimes or other actions that irreparably destroy another persons life.
Having a person walk free who is responsible for someones death, simply because the initial charge was too high, is another major piece of bullshit. Having a literal legal route for allowing a person who is provably guilty of a lesser but still very serious charge, simply because the initial charge was "too high", is a backwards system.
This rule isn't just fundamentally problematic, it also allows for corruption which involves guilty parties bribing, blackmailing or convincing the prosecution to overcharge to the point that the specific charge is unprovable. Such corruption would also be difficult to detect, because it would appear the prosecution is grilling the defendant every step of the way in order to prove their case.
Finally it gives the perfect excuse to vigilantism, especially when undeniable evidence comes forth proving the guilt of someone for a serious offense. It's very difficult to blame someone for "taking the law into their own hands", when the law has quite literally exhausted itself by its own ridiculous short-sighted regulations.
Cody it was lost in the instructions of the judge. They were basically forced to convict her of being a cold hearted murderer (which i 100% believe) or nothing. Many jurors stated they believe something happened and she died but they didnt believe she purposefully killed her. In my opinion anything a parent would do to a child to cause something so terrible than hide it for a month, relentless partying , lying and being a twat, deserves to never breathe a slit of free air ever again. Things happen, terrible things happen everyday. The way we human up makes all the difference. She ... i just cant forgive.
Prosecutor failed. I believe she is guilty but if picked into jury and only relyed on information given during trial I would have given not guilty verdict. Some of the defense arguments didn't make sense but prosecutor didn't question them. Jury has no ability to make own arguments.
@sokami spoken by someone who has no understanding of American history and why it was put into the US Constitution. This keeps people safe from the government continually charging someone over and over until they get the results it wants. There is still the civil courts that are more lenient with prosecution, but money penalty based, for those who are directly involved and think there is a case.
@N. D. M. Talk about attacking my character with absolutely nothing to base it on. Your whole comment is a ridiculous non-argument. Just because i disagree with a part o the fifth amendment, and not even to the point of completely nullifying that part of it, and point to issues such as the ethics of maintaining such a rule when faced with new evidence, the potential for corruption, and how it can be used to legitimize vigilantism.... your argument is that "i don't understand the constitution or US history". You don't need to inform me of why it was put into the constitution. I would argue that upholding specific rules regardless of changing circumstance and refusing to consider revising it at any point, is dogmatic. You are being blindly dogmatic and using it to attack my character. Either you can address my arguments as I actually typed them out, or you can just go away because you're pointless to engage with if you can't argue in good faith.
Roo Mum so then the prosecution or judge failed to properly explain it to them. Not the jury’s fault that they weren’t educated in that aspect. The prosecution/judge sucked and that coupled with Baez’s closing argument is why she walked.
@G R Cleve Never understood this. All evidence should be presented. If the other side opposes it, they can explain why they oppose it during the trial.
The courts never said she was innocent. They said they didn't have enough evidence to convict her. The jurors themselves knew it was the wrong verdict but "beyond reasonable doubt" is the way it works in law. We all know she's guilty but sadly the evidence just wasn't enough. Sadly double jeopardy means she will never face a re-trial. we shall just hope and pray that karma will work its magic on her, if not now then one day when she least expects it.
@Chris Reed I agree and understand what your saying but what if one day she says "yes I did it" or some new evidence comes to light. That's it, nothing can be done. Its 'win win' for her and the justice system has failed this little girl not once but twice. If I did kill a little girl which i never would I'd expect to be hounded, shunned and accused for the rest of my natural life. Not just for one courtroom appearance.
@Chris Reed your kind of missing the point. You said it yourself "There have been instances where a murder case has gotten acquitted and the person later said they did it" that's my entire argument. your talking about how the justice system works in general not about this particular case. Look at her behaviour, her body language and all the lies shes told. These are not the actions of an innocent woman. Because of the double jeopardy clause Caylee Anthony's story will never have the closure that she deserves. Its all well and good talking about the founding fathers but in this particular case that clause will prove to be a lifeline for Casey Anthony not for Caylee.
@puenteUSA.com Actually, 4 of the 7 charges against her were for lying to the police and obstruction of justice, and on those 4 counts she was found guilty and sentenced to 1043 days in jail and a $4000 fine which she did when she was waiting to be trialed.
@Mr305Maxxx I have never heard anything about her biological father either. He was never mentioned. I know they fabricated the story about sexual abuse. Everything that came out of her mouth was a lie. It really pisses me off she's walking around free. 😡
@Chris Reed What if new evidence pops up showing undeniable guilt for a crime? Not so much in this case, but I'm sure it has happened since technology has improved...
@sokami You idolize Stalin and the Soviets. You don't even hide it. Your goal is to dismantle the Constitution and turn the country into a shithole. Which is why you're arguing so hard to give the state the ability to ruin people's lives by constantly charging them with the same crime over and over.
Its not about what you did its about what they can prove. Its crazy that it wasnt a guilty verdict. That lawyer's rate is gonna go through the roof now. He did a great job. Id use him, if I could afford him still
@Brad Steiner Not at all. The proof is beyond "reasonable doubt..." NOT has to be 100% sure. I have seen plenty of people found guilty on much less evidence. Seems to be pure luck...Who are the prosecutors, the defence, the jury and of course the accused. Some jurers simply look at the accused and make up their minds. Young girl, nice smile guarantee some will say "not guilty.." before a word has been spoken. If you ever have to rely on jury for your life...You better pray for a miracle.
Yeah, you got to think tho, if her defense attorney can get someone like that acquitted, he is probably an attorney you want to have if you’re actually innocent
Dont forget she was acquitted by 12 people, each of whom went through a lengthy selection process, so what do you know, that nobody else knows ? Please tell us.
@HanSDevX Conventionally attractive white* women get away with anything. I guarantee if this was a black father on trial for the same thing he'd be in prison regardless of there not being enough evidence to tie him to it. Definitely gender inequality, class inequality, and racial inequality that goes on in the system.
@Jesse H I mean OJ was acquitted due to his resources, reputation, SES class, and wealth. Anthony was acquitted for being a conventionally attractive young white woman. The jury is a joke, they never actually judge non-biasedly, they make their mind up at the beginning of trial (because using regular civilians off of the streets isn't the best idea they should use psychologists to mass evaluate the trial). As long as they don't say that they have a bias they can stay on the jury.
@Jesse H Yes and the reason that was possible for him as a black male in the 90s is because he was rich, had a fuck ton of resources, and had a great reputation as a football star.
@Jesse H All I'm saying is that the justice system is very broken and if you have the money, the white privilege, the right "look", a good reputation, etc., you can get away with anything. They don't actually care about real guilt or innocence. Why do think innocent people get put on death row? Innocent people get convicted when they don't fit a cookie cutter box that the jury wants.
@marikie marie I respectfully disagree. America is the greatest place on earth. To condemn an entire that country that people from countries all over the world are desperate to become citizens of based on the poor job of some lawyers isn't rational. .Yes, that woman is a psychopath, but her lawyer did a much better job. . .
Brad Steiner The US justice system worked the way it was supposed to, not justice. This woman was declared not guilty over the murder of her daughter, which she was very obviously guilty of. That’s not justice, and don’t act like it’s right.
I remember that day so well. I think I was 14 and I’m 24 now. My jaw dropped on the floor when they found her not guilty. Nacy drew Hates Casey so much. She was grilling her every night
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Rex Polski2020-08-04 19:49:34 (edited 2020-08-04 19:54:55 )
@kukalakana Not only did the prosecution not do their job, they couldn't do their job because the police apparently didn't get enough in terms of proof and hard evidence to pin it on her irrefutably. I would surmise the police had a lot of circumstantial evidence, which isn't enough for a conviction.
@Brad Steiner Exactly. A lot of people refuse to understand. Justice is blind. The legal system worked here the way it was intended to. Yes, this woman is a monster. Legally, the prosecution couldn't touch her.
@HanSDevX I agree, but I would also say also that anyone raised in this irresponsible manner (no punishment for misdeeds, no enforcement of morals, given everything in their life without earning it) is at risk for a deeply flawed character.
@marikie marie I am not saying she is innocent, she sounds very disturbed, a pathological liar, probably a Narcissist, but even if there is any element of doubt, i.e. not enough proof then correctly she should not go to Jail. Think if it was you that did not kill someone. Going to Jail won't bring the child back. Better thousands of guilty released, than Just one Innocent person be imprisoned. She might have killed her daughter, or maybe it misadventure,, or something else might have happened. but we will never know for sure. Prosecution should have done more homework.
@Father Chrissy actually oj had some race involved in why he was aquited to. The whole black community was behind him and saying they were trying to charge him because he was black. That put pressure on the case
@Father Chrissy i think you could argue oj simpson had black privilege. Because he had the whole black community and other sjws putting pressure on the case aaying he was beong charged because he was black
@Mark Crisp you never know. I had an acquaintance who was former MP in the marines he found himself in legal trouble for shooting an armed robber in the back and killing him. You really never know if you're gonna find yourself in legal trouble. Stuff happens.
@kukalakana Exactly. In my past experience of being on a jury (in Australia), we were instructed by the judge, and backed up by the defence (who was no less than a QC), that we were to assess whether the prosecution had successfully shown and proved intent for the charge, which made our job a lot easier even though we had one lady who was taking a more moralistic Christian view during our deliberations. In our case, the defendant received a not guilty (even from the Christian lady) since the prosecution didn't quite prove that intent. The charge we were dealing with was a grievous bodily harm.
If I found out someone's 2-yr old child had been missing/kidnapped for -5- days and she's just now reporting it, I would immediately think she's the worst mother in the world and that she possibly did something. 31 days is just UNREAL
Forget 5 days... any normal mother would be apoplectic if their child had been missing for even a few hours. I've seen it in totally innocent situations, like a babysitter taking the kid to the park and not having their cell phone on them. After 24 hours a normal mother is basically unintelligible from the tears and sobbing.
@Alex A lol i once went straight from school to a friends house and had a sleepover without telling my mom when i was like 6-7 years old. And when I came home she said the cops were looking for me. I got the whooping of my life.
@Kevin Saviro Exactly. The idea that a mother is going to go partying for a month while her child is missing is so completely alien to what a non-psychopathic mother would do it's almost laughable.
@Alex A Agree and then think of Madeleine McCann's mother.. went running with her husband and playing tennis immediately after their daughter disappeared. No tears in front of camera crew. Very, very strange behaviour.
@Gemma G. Yeah, definitely something wrong there. To play devil's advocate though, their daughter seems to be a party girl, so maybe it's normal behavior for her to go "off the grid" so to speak.
I wuddnt wait 30 MINUTES if one of my kids had disappeared at a young age! The sheer panic I wud feel wud COMPEL me to call the feds before I cud even THINK of lookn for my missing child! Any parent worth their proverbial "salt" wud do/feel exacly the same!
@thrift shop ghost yup wouldn't have been able to "pay" her attorney (that successfully defended her) with sexual favors either since she was jobless at the time.
@Elizabeth Grey Every reply is unnecessary, if it is insensitive idk how but why would you even be offended by that and explain how it is disrespectfull.
@mato mrak This person is comparing trauma, saying that women who have abortions are all just evil manipulators and not people in difficult situations being taken advantage of, and by bringing up abortion in a completely unrelated case, it detracts the meaning from the event and comes off as more as a political power move than showing genuine empathy for the child who died. Not to mention the sexist undertones of again, assuming that the millions of women who get abortions are just selfish, cold hearted people. I don’t think abortion is right either but it exists because of an exploitative system and poverty, not because of the whole ‘females just wanna fxck around’ stereotype.
@thrift shop ghost you know that someone can’t be objectively attractive right? You might not think she’s ugly but someone else working in the department might.
@Danish Why does it matter if it is outise of womb or inside if there was a way to showe back in a month old baby back inside mother would it be okay to kill it.
@Elizabeth Grey Okay he did not say that all women are manipulators you made that up. And it is not so unrelated in both cases the child dies that is why he probbably said it. He did detract the meaning from event not because he does not feel empathy for the child ( at least i hope so) but because he has empathy for all murdered children. If we can afford to care this much about one murder why cant we care just a little bit more about the murders of arbortion. That is why he said it at least i think. It is not urelated. And what do you mean by sexist undertones he just wrote a two senteces and you found all that stuff in his undertone.
@mello oh of course. I would say like "traditionally" attractive maybe. it's all subjective, but i think there's like a baseline of what is and isn't attractive to most people. I say this as a subjectively ugly woman: she would have gotten less sympathy from the jurors if she was ugly or older.
@SoularSystemGG Wym Agenda? I just don’t get abortions man. Just don’t have intercourse. The majority of abortions are caused from the consequences of intercourse. I know what the rebuttal is going to be, rape. But that word has been stretched so much that rape could be anything. I am aware people experience it, and it’s horrible. No one should experience that. Helpless human beings however, should not be violated as well. Have a good day!
@thrift shop ghost I dont know what manipulation are you talking about like maybe he just meant get away with it as get away with it there is no undertone or secret meaning. And nobody is also talking about not being able to go on with your life. We just see abortions something that is not good. And since we are talking about murder why not talk about a similar kind of murder on similar victim.
@Danish What do you mean a lump of cells. How can you compare a fetus and lump of cells. No doctor would ever call fetus even close to tumor. Like dude what are you talking about.
@Danish so a baby in a womb is a ‘lump of cells’ is what you’re saying. So your basically saying a baby has the same biology as a single cell organism 😂. You can’t be making this up, and it must be a lucky day to talk to the 1 of 12 people with 10 IQ
@Andrew it's so strange, they literally proved she lied about everything but got away with it... the jury knew she was guilty. They see her cry and everything changes, when a man cries he is weak but when a women cries she is strong. It's a bushit double standard.
@Tube Guy murder of a 3 year old and abortion are far cries from eachother... i understand your feelings on abortion but this is really not the time to bring that up.
@Tube Guy idk man would you rather have a child grow up in a bad situation and possibly take their own life or make sure they never have to go through that
@Some Dude he was not good-looking at all, she was a Barfly s***. But the one thing he had was a great great defense attorney. Like it or not and I don't but the lawyer was a very Gifted Man. He knew from day one exactly what he was going to do and when he was going to do it it was all calculated. Every time someone testified against her just made it a lot easier for him to do what he needed to do. She did not get away with murder someday she will pay but Perry Mason give her a little bit more of freedom until that day comes.
@nika kaspia a clump of cells, when is a tadpole a frog. Put away gender studies and pay more attention to science class. It's like saying to someone if I kill you in your sleep it's not murder. If you kill a pregnant woman you're charged with two murders. Why is that considered murder under the law? Can't have it both ways.
@Nick West she got in a bar fight less than a week ago.
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Dennis Dean2021-05-31 02:16:03 (edited 2021-05-31 02:17:13 )
@Nick West no no no no, you only get to try her once. last I heard she was still living in Florida her and her parents do not speak anymore but other than that she got away with it. So so sad that anyone could do that to their own child or any child and get off. The last time I seen anything about Casey Anthony her daughter would have been 13 and she was showing pictures of the ultrasounds of the baby when she was pregnant. Which I thought was odd. But yeah she got by with it
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Mr. Malcolm2021-05-31 02:28:39 (edited 2021-05-31 02:32:15 )
@Elizabeth Grey maybe its a little upfront. but its the truth. what casey did is just a slight variation of @bortion. k1ll1ng a baby because thier existense poses an inconvenience to your life or lifestyle. (in most casses). the differences here are that what casey did was after the baby was born. Also a lot of mothers feel remorse after the fact, but casey is crazy
@nika kaspia Either way, no reason to have an abortion. Most of the time, it’s people dealing with the consequences of intercourse and looking for an easy way out. Honestly, just make better decisions! I know your rebuttal will be rape. I understand, no one should go through that. You can’t however just use rape, as most people abort to avoid the mistake they’ve made, an easy way out. Either way in general, make better decisions!
@I'm a comedian Oh jeez lol, I'm not saying she is good looking from a personal stand point, but without knowing the shit she's done, she has the features to be conventionally attractive enough to get away with or receive better treatment than others would. Examples: sexual favors to pay for her attorney, a slew of boyfriends even after being released from jail, admirers sending money while she was in jail, she lied about everything yet was still deemed not guilty (ppl generally attribute more positive qualities to ppl they find attractive), there's a damn article (removed after some time) stating she was working out now and had pictures of her new "toned" look
@mato mrak He said women “get away with abortions” which is very clearly placing the blame on the women. By comparing women who get abortions to Casey and placing the blame on those women, he is essentially calling these women manipulators. Yes in both cases the child dies but in many cases children die and yet we recognize it is wrong to compare trauma. For example, if I posted about how 215 Indigenous children’s bodies were found on a residential school site in Canada (which did really happen), and someone said “free Palestine” or “my child died too” or something like that, we can very clearly see that it is wrong. You’re taking a huge issue and equating it with another very huge but separate issue, therefore taking attention away from the issue currently in discussion. Also abortion, though horrible and immoral, is unfortunately heavily politicized, and bringing up politics in a murder case is bound to come off as insensitive, even if he didn’t mean it that way. Sure, some abortions are had because the woman wants freedom from parenthood or freedom to be irresponsible, but in almost all circumstances of abortion it is much more than just a matter of inconvenience. Poverty, desire to get an education, the pain and potentially permanent injuries that can result from pregnancy and birth, the manipulative tactics of abortion providers, the misleading political climate, the fear of being a bad parent, the fear of being disowned or broken up with are ALL huge issues when it comes to abortion and there are way more. I too went through an “anti feminist” phase (I’m a woman btw) where I believed abortion was purely a selfish and irresponsible decision, but having realized that is false, it’s opened my eyes up to the real world. Overall, the context of these two situations may seem comparable, but it’s also very different in certain ways. Abortion is unfortunately politicized, infanticide is not. Abortion is normalized, infanticide is not. Abortion happens mainly because of circumstance and a lack of education, infanticide in this case was purely out of selfish evilness. Abortion normally happens before the child can feel or mentally process pain. Her child undoubtedly suffered. None of this means abortion is less of an issue- only that the two should not be compared. Please, advocate for the unborn without doing it under the comment sections for a murdered infant and her found-not-guilty mother.
Look at her breathing while listening to the verdict - she is completely hiding/suffocating her emotions in the most emotional moment of her life: even than, she is able to keep on her mask. That takes some practice, she must have rehearsd her whole life.
She didn't cry, you completely missed it, she smiled. She couldn't contain her joy when she heard not guilty the first time and started to smile, she caught herself quickly and turned it into her crying with a mix of emotions. The following not-guilty convictions she tried to show a mixed emotion of happy and upset because of her first outburst of joy.
@nvm I watched the entire trial when it all went down. I started out indifferent, but by the end of the trial I agreed with the jury. There was never any evidence that Casey killed her daughter. If anything the prosecution arrogantly thought it would be an open/shut case to the point where they went after her in court with no evidence. The jury did make the right call though. The problem with all the folks making comments on here is that they're going off of emotions instead of the facts.
@Dexter P. you're drinking the koolaid bud, I suggest you watch the entire trial as it happened, and if you have half the intelligence God gave a fly, you'll walk away with the understanding that there was no incriminating evidence. She may have done it, but in a jury one has to ho with the law, and the law is clear where there is no evidence, then one cannot be condemned. People like yourself just let the media think for you instead of going to the source and finding out for yourself.
@Jor Tra even if she didn't kill her daughter. She is HAPPY that her daughter is dead and doesn't give two shits about her daughter missing. Why did she never call the police?. The first thing anyone whould do is call the police, She never even asks if they found anything about her daughter because she doesn't care. And on top of that she lied almost everything she said to the police. Why whould she lie to the police that are trying to find her?
@Jor Tra So not calling the police for an entire month after a 3 year old went missing, lied about how her daughter went missing, googled suffocation techniques, lied to detectives many times and she's innocent...
@Chad Kirk bullshitting aside, the law is clear, if there's no evidence to condemn, then we don't condemn. Further, are you actually reading her correctly , or are you only seeing what you want to?
@Jor Tra no evidence what about the smell in her car it doesn’t make sense that’s body OF A 3 YEAR OLD WAS THERE OFCOURSE IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE without emotion by the lying she is hiding something she made up a whole story and still she’s not guilty
This video convinced me she was a murderer. Then I watched a video of her dad talking on day 7 of the trial. Then watched the opening argument of the defense on day 1. Now I'm convinced it was an accident, but her father was the one with most guilt. He left the ladder reachable to Caylee. He was the one deciding not to go to the cops. He had access to the special kind (!!) of duct tape later found on the corpse. He admitted it was an accident to his mistress half a year later and tried to commit suicide a few days after that. I'm pretty sure he also actually raped Casey when she was a child.
@András Ziegenham that makes 0 sense lol. So he is there and tells her to cover up an accident by saying he is molesting her? Even a terrible cop would have a better plan than that...thats like Forest Gump lvl planning. Even if that was true why didn't he back up her story then? Why would he tell her to cover it up and then throw her under the bus, presenting the most damning evidence to the police himself. He considered suicide because he knew perfectly well Casey is a psychopath, he basically enabled her. Furthermore George did not actually admit that "things got out of control" to his mistress. She DID testify to that effect but then later in the testimony also claimed that George had know knowledge of the events. Casey Anthony does not have the capability to tell the Truth to the point where you can assume that anything she is saying is roughly the opposite of what actually happened. Bitch is stone cold guilty of first degree murder.
@AFX QUEST lying doesn't look good, but it doesn't mean she murdered her kid, nor does it come close to proving such a thing. Also the smell in the car could of come from many things, also one must prove that the smell was that of a decomposing body and that the body was that of her daughter, and then it would have to be proven or shown how that the smell was present in the car because of Casey Anthony's actions rather than somebody else's, etc. Do you see how you're seeing things in a very shallow, emotional light instead of through the prism of logic, reality, and proper evidence. Having watched the entire trial very closely I'm very pleased with the call the jury made, and you should be also.
@Morrick you could even see her sigh a breath of relief after the convictions as she could quit having to act. Also her eyes were buggin as she was trying to put together her expressions lol
Also is no one going to mention her search history? Look that up, that stuff is real. They found it after the trial because the police didn’t check the Firefox application first(which was what she used most), but instead were looking in the wrong place. Which was internet explorer.
Anyone else notice how at 30:07 she says “I can’t even put towards how glad I am that she’s HAD both of you” And then she quickly corrects it to “still has both of you” She already knew her child was dead
@•ღcutaepieღ• You know what i don't understad? Let's say her daughter did drown in the pool. She was still found with duct tape around her mouth and nose and thrown in a swamp. What does the police think of that? Isn't that a bit iffy?? Why didn't thy mention that? It really irritates me how half asses this whole case was handled
@Old _Yeller I'm sure 99% of the police knew that and believed she was guilty. Except whatever Detective she started to date later. They clearly saw through the lies and deception. At the end it was the jury that mattered the most and of course are idiots to media's manipulation which plays a heavier role than people think. I think jury should only be trained personnel, completely random and anonymous.
During the trial she played off the sobbing act when her lawyer spoke about her being "Molested" but when the body of her dead child was described she didn't even flinch. Ahh, sociopath at it's finest.
@justin denley How does that have anything to do with liberals?
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Pete Kachew2020-08-16 18:17:13 (edited 2020-08-16 18:17:56 )
@MOsKOn Yeah. It was a lie made up by the lawyer, they were able to keep up the lie because George wasn't there to deny the claims. And even if he were, he'd have no evidence to prove he didn't do anything. Even one of the "witnesses" the lawyer called up was a convicted felon for kidnapping, he lied about Kaylee drowning in the pool. This whole case is messed up.
@Pete Kachew Wow, imagine your daughter lying about you molesting her as a child for sympathy, that's so fucked up. How do you take that in as a father, I hope both her parents cut off contact with her because at that point it was obvious everything was a fabricated lie and she murdered her child. They can't be that blind, can they?
She was raped by her dad she was jel of her daughter for you can imagine why
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Pete Kachew2020-08-17 17:26:57 (edited 2020-08-18 23:37:57 )
@🍩 r e p l y Yeah, her dad immediately cut ties with her after he saw the trial. He was one of the most prominent figures defending her and saying that she was innocent too. I feel bad for her parents, yeah they spoiled her and didnt properly punish her when she'd do something bad, but they genuinely did want to believe in her innocence; even when all the evidence was stacked against her.
This case literally makes me sick, the evidence was STACKED against her and still Caylee never got justice. Casey does not deserve to be called a mother, she is a monster, and everyone who found her innocent should be ashamed that they are that stupid to let her live her "happiest" life
She can't be happy how could she. Who's gonna party with her. She's not a Mom anymore. She's nothing now. If I was the Judge I would order an Oophorectomy for Casey
@Mindblow We can't do nothing nobody really cares how we feel If the poor and the unfortunate kill their own young they will get convicted and most will say it's poor people's problems Really the criminals has to deal with it, Right?? We have a clear conscious the killers really don't and eventually a killer will crack.
@Satania d'Villa being a psychopath LITERALY means that you have no remorse at all and that you are perfectly happy with every harm you do against other people. She's way happier than me or you.
@edraith that's not what being a psychopath means at all...
They can still be remorseful about how things went down, or how they were handled, or that they might have even gone about things more efficiently.
I haven't watched the case and while I am pretty sure that she's guilty, at the same time it is not 100% guaranteed. Was the child asphyxiated or drowned? Different cause of death. If she drowned, then was there actually tape covering her airways? This was mentioned once, then nothing further in the video, same with the pool, but both don't coincide well together.
As for her actions after the fact, it's entirely 'possible', however inplausible that she drowned by accident and the girl panicked, leading to her taking the actions she did. The whole partying thing may have been as stated, to try and gain some form of normality if she was spiralling and didn't know how to handle it, so reverted to past mechanisms, much like someone may turn to alcohol or drugs to mask pain.
The diary excerpt may have been her trying to pen her forced thoughts to tell herself that it was the truth
Do I believe any of the above? God no... But the entire point is it's 'without a doubt'. If there are room for doubts, then there simply wasn't enough evidence against her, regardless of how what evidence they did have was painted.
@edraith Thanks. I still believe she's guilty and I feel in any other court room, she'd have been found as such. I genuinely think that her lawyer must have had exceptional skills and making people doubt the things in front of them. It's also quite terrifying that this woman got off scot-free with what looks like it should have been a clear cut case under normal circumstances.
Any one of the points I made could indicate an innocent, if eccentric, trait. But when you combine all of them together, it's pretty damning.
But the reason I gave them in the first place was because I've seen a number of people over different videos condemning the jury, which I don't really think is fair if you weren't there to understand how their own minds were affected by it (just FYI, I'm not saying you were implying that, just what I've seen generally).
i googled where CA is now. she IS happy. she's with the private detective from her case. she has a job. in August 2020 she gave the AP an interview. she said she would be "dumb" to have another child because that child would get picked on by other children because of "the case"
The calmness she displays when she pretends to think her daughter is missing is the most disturbing to me. I lost sight of my son at the park for a moment last week and I was screaming running looking for him. He had just run up a nearby hill and was blocked by a tree but omg. And when they're with their dad and I don't speak to them... it's a hollow feeling when they're gone, your world goes black with terror when you lose them just for a second. This woman is on borrowed time.
I don't even have kids, but if I'm out with friends and look around and can't locate one of their children for a second, I feel like I'm about to have a heart attack. I don't understand how parents live longer than people without children.
@Heather Spoonheim When Casey talked on the phone with her friend Christine she was definitely distraught, whereas Casey was like "omg such a waste of time"
When I was 5 me and my family went out on a trip to a park that has many rentable bikes. There where many people there so I had my nanny and brothers to keep an eye on me. So I was in my bike which I rode throughout a good length of the road alone, I hopped out of my bike at the other end and decided to do whatever. I walked around alone for a while, eventually I walked back to my bike and my brothers saw me and my mom was in tears. Apparently, they where keeping an eye on me throughout the whole trek and lost sight of me halfway through due to the volume of people. After some time I didn't return they began to panic fearing the worst. My mom never wants to go to that park ever again, really scarred her.
I have a little sister and smts when she's playing with smn for example and i look away and look back and she's suddenly out of sight, my heart just starts racing withing 0.1 seconds. so ya, that calmness is really f***ing disturbing. wtf
I went to fetch my daughter from my next door neighbors house and nobody was there so I frantically called and they said they had left and Claire had went home and it felt like my whole body was on fire and I could hear my heartbeat in my ears. My knees felt weak and my hands stung they were so shaky. I immediately ran to my neighbors across the street for help and she was there! She got punished for not telling me where she went but it was an important lesson to learn. I never want to feel that way ever again!
That frantic feeling rushes over you in an instant and it's almost impossible to hide. My 6 year old daughter walked away from me in a store a couple weeks ago and thought she'd test some boundaries by not answering when I called her. After the second time of her not coming and answering to her name I started yelling it and left my cart to search for her. My stomach dropped and she finally answered me when she could hear how worried my voice was.
@Sara “OMG like I really need to talk to my potential partner in crime right now, stop wasting my time 👞👞👞, yeah yeah cry over my daughter, such a waste of time”
I wanted to throw up when I saw her smiling as the detectives were talking to her about that little angel. Acting like she was at a coffee shop with her friends. I'm sick to my stomach.
Is no one discussing the fact that the defence claimed that Casey was sexually abused by her farther? I don't want to minimise it if it actually happened but If this is a lie like everything else she said, then this is the second worst thing she has ever done. Imagine being her father giving her support and then be hit by that just so your sociopathic daughter can get off scot free.
@Andyy L No he didn't, he is still alive. He got wasted and texted some people that he was going to kill himself but he didn't. Stop trying to make this family of baby killers seem sympathetic.
@Andyy L He didn't kill himself, stop reading youtube comments and taking them as fact
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László Juhász2021-10-07 23:55:36 (edited 2021-10-07 23:57:24 )
There are people who were only touched by their father in a normal loving way, and then they lie about being raped in childhood... Or even worse, accusing someone else at a party who they just accidentally bumped into, or was a friend who just kissed his lady friend on the cheek, and then accusing them for rape... That's what's truly fucked up...
That was the only moment I saw that there could have been something deeper in Kaileey's words. How possible would it be for her to grow up like this in a healthy family? I'll copy paste a theory that I found at least interesting from another comment - .... never involving kid’s dad in this is kinda weird. And are we sure she is lying about her dad? Idk. I feel like there are a lot of things that jury didn’t disclose to media. Maybe she was cold blooded inhuman person cuz of her kid being her dad and her?
Part of me wonders if it was punishment of some kind because he was the parent who wasn’t going along with her bullshit. She’s never gone after her mom because she’s protected her and defended her lies
Yeh it caught me completely in different zone. Fuk what was that sudden argument about sexual abuse where did that came from like w t h was that. It was disgusting how he discussed but it would be like death if it was a lie for her father who loved her.
I was thinking about that claim they made. True or not, though I find it hard to believe because of her clear compulsive lying, it doesn't explain anything else about the daughter being "kidnapped" or why the car smelled like a corpse, or even why the body was found in the manner it was. It all seems to me like Casey wasn't ready to be a parent and felt the best way to deal with it was to kill her child, who she was probably already neglecting, and just lie through her teeth. This wasn't just on a whim, the woman planned this. Though it was crappy planning, somehow she knew that she would get away with it, especially if she claimed something that would point to her being put in this situation by some traumatic situation. I honestly believe that she made up the whole molesting because she wanted sympathy. She lied about everything else, and not in a normal at way for when your child goes missing. I mean, she could've been telling the truth for once in her life, but after everything else she lied about and how casually she did so, it's not likely her story was true at any point.
The timeline of the Anthony family didn't match up for Casey doing that search which is why it wasn't presented at trial. Baez would have jumped on it as another flimsy piece of evidence.
It doesn't matter what the juries personal opinions are of her, they can only make a decision on the evidence provided during the trial & if there was enough evidence to prove beyond all reasonable doubt if someone is guilty or not. Its a hard thing to do to ignore your personal & gut feelings to do the job of a juror correctly, this is why lawyers screen & questions potential jurors. If jurors were allowed to make decisions from their own personal feelings & opinions there would be an awful lot of injustice & vice versa. I assume there are many people who have been a juror for awful crimes & believed that someone was guilty but had no choice to decide innocence based on the evidence or lack of it. There are many problems that can occur when a juror lets their personal feelings make their decision.
@Catherine Yes, precisely, though I think a whole lot of juries base their judgements on their emotions and the stories told by DAs (especially in Texas) and the miscarriages of justice are many. The job of the jury is to judge the evidence, not the story.
The time of death was uncertain given the decomposition of the body. No one saw Caylee alive after the 9th when she searched for foolproof suffocation but she claims the drowning occurred on the 16th. That explains away her journal and internet search history. It's not a believable lie given the physical evidence.
@Mike Sirname Because the timeline that the DA set up at trial showed that only George, Casey's father, could have done that search. The DA had to choose what theory of the crime they presented at trial and the search didn't fit into their theory so they left it out. Baez would have jumped on it if they presented it as another piece of flawed evidence by the DA.
@Abe Buckingham It was for the prosecution to claim, and then prove, that for the jury, which they did not. It would have opened up a whole new area of doubt which Baez would have jumped on. They were extremely inhibited by the decomposition of the body for creating a believable timeline - but they only have their own cops to blame for that.
@Geostrategic Insights i'm always annoyed by people who attack juries. They are random people that are plucked out their day to day lives and burdened with the task of making a tough decision with someone's life. Plus, the presentation of the trial is unique to them only, they are only privy to certain details. It's easy to sit back with hindsight and all of the available information from the press and pass judgement on them. A not guilty verdict is the prosecution's fault. End of story.
@Artlover Thanks for the new information! Yes, the investigators and the prosecutors were incompetent which should be where the scorn of the public should be focused. Our justice system isn't going to get any better with players like these bozos.
@Mike Sirname Wow! France is going to jury-less trials??? So judges will ultimately have all authority over criminal trials? Interesting. I know that Salic Law, as opposed to Common Law, is very different. On the one hand, the trials are not sensationalized like they are in the UK and USA. On the other, no judgement by one's peers just feels...wrong, to me. ;)
@Dark Passenger That's the rub: Too much circumstantial and not enough direct evidence. In following the letter of the law, the jury came up with the only decision they could, unfortunately. The prosecution failed.
Except the State claimed that Casey used chloroform to incapacitate Caylee. Where did she obtain the chloroform? How did she dispose of it? Why bother with chloroform at all if she was just going to suffocate Caylee? The State never answered these questions.
@Catherine Actually, the selection of a juror is very much psychologically driven. Also, you would be shocked at how much a jury is not permitted to see or know. It is surprising to me that so many are actually convicted of anything given the limited scope of whst can be presented to a jury. It is not easy to find people who have no awareness of current affairs and local news, ie ignorant
I watched a review of this trial by Marcia Clark who said the reason why a few of the incriminating search terms weren't presented was because one of the prosecution's team researchers searched only one search engines, but missed checking another search engine during the trial. After the trial was over, the prosecution team discovered there was more incriminating keyword searches done under this secondary search engine. Too late to present at that time..
@Mike Sirname So interesting. Thanks for that. Again, I see the benefits of both systems. Too many juries in this country are manipulated into bad verdicts, and DA's hide evidence whenever they can. I feel there is way too much emotion in the USA that gives the public a voice at trials which is detrimental to the law and fairness. I had lawyer friends when I lived in Germany and their training was much more rule based than the US system but that did take the power somewhat out of the hands of individuals, even judges who were only given authority based on extensive legal knowledge rather than trial procedure. I think that the legal system of the USA is vastly different from anywhere else in the world. The only benefit of our system I can see is that any case, absolutely any case at all, can set precedent that has far reaching implications under our system. Again, thanks for the explanation!
@Geostrategic Insights That evidence would very likely have caused one juror to refuse to agree to any verdict other than guilty. Then the rest of the jurors fall in line or there's a mistrial and they can try again.
@The Betty Strong Encounter Someone in that house looked up how to make it. That is not in dispute. Unfortunately, the state could not prove that it was Casey. However, they did they find it in the trunk of the car? How did it get there? Also, why did the trunk of the car smell like a decomposing body (the garbage did NOT make that smell). Yet more unanswered questions. The prosecution failed Caylee.
That wouldn't have worked anyway, because when you search for "foolproof suffocation" you will find that the whole page is filled with articels about some girl named Casey...
@Mike Sirname The state fucked up incredibly and didn't check one of the browser's history. The defense was expecting the evidence and came up with a lie to refute. This was all discovered later on. More evidence would prove ONLY Casey was home and able to do those searches concerning full-proof suffocation. It's pure luck she got away with it. The day she was arrested is the day she deleted all the history.
@Dark Passenger MOST cases are solved via circumstantial evidence. Perhaps you should stop watching tv shows where they pretend all cases are solved via forensics.
@Artlover There's no evidence that Casey or anyone else connected to the case had the knowledge or equipment to synthesize chloroform. It's absurd to suggest that Casey was cooking up chloroform in a secret laboratory when she could have just drugged Caylee with OTC meds. Huge misstep by the State.
I agree that she was guilty. But you just watched a video about how a murderer got away with it, and presumably that wouldn’t be enough to convict you if someone you knew died or disappeared. No single internet search item proves anything. Neither does some facial expression, speech pattern, or whether she acted as you think someone should. Put together, you are starting to develop a case.
New evidence such as this would be possible grounds for a retrial. Even if a murder trial is over, someone can still be trialed again if fresh evidence is discovered.
@Mike Sirname Well since you are asking...I was arguing/discussing a certain feminist topic on another forum where someone contended that English Common Law was the most woman friendly code of laws ever formed ever. So my huffy ass had to go research the various forms of early legal codes in Europe and their implications for modern jurisprudence. Fun stuff. Not lying. And no, English Common Law is not the most feminist friendly legal code in early times. Castilian law is much better, the law that was transported to most of Latin America. Even Islamic laws were more feminist than the English. So I learned about Salic Law which had a huge impact on Europe overall (and caused many a war over succession) and still echoes through the culture as authority based law, as does Roman Law which is very prevalent in places like Germany.
@Mike Sirname You are very welcome. The most interesting set of laws was Castilian, which gave women rights of ownership and negotiation. This is probably due to Queen Isabella being prominent and in competition with the Muslims of the southern half of Spain who allowed women the same rights. They were extremely progressive for the time.
@Mike Sirname Yes, women could inherit independently of their brothers, husband and sons from their fathers. Yes, widows were entitled to at least some of the wealth if their husbands died (I'm not going to say all, because titles came with inheritance and that definitely went to eldest sons. Widows did have rights of inheritance, however and possibly support from their sons, if I recall correctly.) To start looking into this, maybe look into the history of Aragorn and the lands that were conferred upon the daughter of Ferdinand and Isabella.
@Dark Passenger only is such events didnt actually occur. IF you search for how to acid down a body... THEN your nieghbor who you have been feuding with goes missing... THAT is not circumstancial.
That is the main problem with this type of documentary. They always present the evidence to support their opinion in this case guilty. In the end, common sense tell you that if jurors found her not guilty, there is 99 % chance that we would have come to the same conclusion.
@Jeffrey Bone In the U.S. once you've been acquitted of a crime you can't be tried for that crime again. Statements made in opening and closing arguments are not facts and are not evidence. Attorney's get a great deal of leeway in their statements made in court and his statement was based on what his client told him. Since she doesn't have to take the stand, she doesn't have to give evidence to support the accusation.
@Stained Glass "evidences of human decomposition" would have resulted in dna, which could have easily been matched to Caylee. You're merely talking about the mention of a stench. That's not evidence of human decomposition. It's barely admissable in court as part of a witness testimony, but would not be considered an actual piece of evidence.
I'm not saying she didn't kill Caylee, but based upon the evidence, you cannot convict her of first degree murder. If we did off of such a lack of evidence, lots of people could be convicted of murders and crimes they didn't commit. (We know those in the cases to which I'm referencing didn't commit the crimes because we've found more evidence to prove otherwise.)
Artlover That’s total bs. If you watched the trial and read the mountain of evidence you’d know that. Circumstantial evidence is just as strong as forensic evidence. Only the ignorant think convictions are only made with DNA.
So, what I'm confused around here is the narration of the video and the message. Aside from obvious reasons to disbelieve Casey Anthony I'm trying to understand how the narrator speaks with authority and certainty regarding diagnoses such as sociopathy or pathological lying. Not because I belive it's not true (I agree with the ideas), but more because of the certainty in the delivery here. Has there been some previous diagnosis of Casey, or perhaps have I misunderstood the nature of the video as more factual, when in fact what it's intended as is one person's well educated, (but not clinically diagnosed) view of what the 'something' about casey is? I'm certainly not criticising, just curious about the production's intent.
That could have been a search, by either Casey or her father, to find a way to stage the (already dead) body to look like a murder in case it was ever found. Just another theory...
it would diffidently make her the number 1 suspect but you need actual evidence that she killed her child like a eye witness or video of the killing or dumping of the body or a confession if she is convicted of killing her child on that alone it is like me saying you looked up suffocation and you killed her child
@N. D. M. I am not from the USA so I was under the impression that you could bring a re-trial. People seriously need to speak up against such a corrupt legislation...
@00 00 I completely disagree. The founding fathers of the USA put that in the original Constitution for a Wise and Just reason. Again, the objections show a lack of history education.
@N. D. M. But if new evidence comes up, what about the victim and their families right to a new trial? What about justice the safety of the community? If fresh evidence presents itself that this woman could have murdered her daughter it is strongly in the public's interest for her to be put back on trial and jailed if she is found guilty. For her to remain at large if a court can prove that she actually murdered someone is a huge miscarriage of justice. I don't know how this goes against the concept of liberty and justice at all. It's perfectly fair. Sitting one trial should not make someone exempt from another if fresh evidence comes forward.
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N. D. M.2020-08-21 13:46:14 (edited 2020-08-21 13:55:23 )
@00 00 life isn't fair. Second, the US was built on freedoms and individuality, not justice and community. The victims can always sue them if they find or think there is enough evidence. That has a lower threshold of required evidence while not including incarceration or a death penalty. For instance, see what happened to O.J. Simpson. The rule exists to stop the government from harassing citizens by coming up with all kinds of "new" evidence, real or imagined, to re-trial until they get what they want. It avoids the kangaroo court system that European Monarchies and Tyrants (one and the same in the mind of the founding fathers) used against those they didn't like. "That didn't stick? Well what about this? That didn't stick? Well what about this?" It also helps avoid mob justice in the courts that this comments section is filled with. Also, it allows for nolification or the idea that the people can override laws they disagree with by jury decisions; and the government can't retaliate. The philosophy is built on maximum freedom and rights of all individuals (including the accused or even guilty so the innocent won't suffer indignities or worse), not on justice that is subjective.
Catherine ...you’re full of it. The directive is not “beyond all ...”, it is “beyond a reasonable doubt”. What does this mean? It means your doubt cannot be unreasonable. The jurors heard nothing reasonable to suggest it wasn’t pre-meditated murder. But the defense was slicker than owl sh_t on an ice flow when he said “they must ‘prove’”. He deceived the jury. The prosecution never has to ‘prove’. They only must show that there is no ‘reasonable’ doubt.
N. D. M. What makes a group of men 200 years ago fit to say what is wise and just in today’s age a lot of the stuff they wrote was vague for the sole reason of trying to make those rules as relevant for as long as possible that’s a fact unfortunately the fact they are vague give the opportunity of criminals to weasel their way out
Jorel Decker very right she was willing to throw her own father under for her own gain and all that stems from the fact they were soft on her, regardless of being a sociopath (which is actually rewarded in our community) she is a disgusting human being and beyond a fake person. But I would like to know more about her psychological evaluations something isn’t right
Bruce Sanders you just proved the point of the defense honestly everyone can twist the words of law for their own gain beyond reasonable doubt was made to seem like it had to be beyond all doubt but in reality the hourly was incapable of thinking for them selves. Any person that can think would know nothing is beyond all doubt honestly even stuff we believe as fact can be spun a different way
@Just a Texas Girl I think that was to get rid of her mom cause she was gonna ask about Caylee and couldn’t dodge I contact in person like the jail visit
@00 00 //New evidence such as this would be possible grounds for a retrial. Even if a murder trial is over, someone can still be trialed again if fresh evidence is discovered.//
Not in the US. Indeed, not in any jurisdiction I know of that operated under the English Law tradition.
@Bryan Hann If new evidence came forward that this woman did kill her daughter she would just get away with it? Wouldn't it be re opened as a fresh case? I have seen trials get thrown out in the uk where I am originally from and then re set. I just seems ludicrous to me that they would allow a criminal to get off scott free. New evidence means a new case. If she went to police now and said "I did it,I killed my daughter" you are telling me they would just tell her she was free to go? The prosecution authority would bring a new case if they had new evidence. It would be a new set of proceedings.
@00 00 If found guilty, a new trial could me ordered that might reverse the conviction. But if found not guilty, the tried person cannot be tried on the same charges. I believe this is the case in all Commonwealth countries.
//The prosecution authority would bring a new case if they had new evidence. It would be a new set of proceedings.//
I am sorry to inform you that it does not work this way. Now if the tried person testified that they did not commit a crime and later admitted to committing the crime, this admission could be used in a charge of perjury -- but not in a charge related to the original crime. (If charged only with murder, and the jury found the charged person not guilty, they may not then me charged with a lesser crime of manslaughter.)
@Bryan Hann that's what I'm saying. The prosecution authority would bring fresh charges. It wouldn't be the same case, they would have to open a new case based on the new investigation.
@Artlover Not true. "REASONABLE" doubt. If direct evidence were a must for conviction, then nobody who disposes of the body beyond recovery would be convicted. Circumstantial can rise above reasonable doubt. This case is one of them.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
@J B Please, I'm not saying convictions don't happen with circumstantial evidence alone. I'm saying the bottom line is the prosecution could not convince THIS jury "beyond a reasonable doubt" (mainly due to a failure to prove the cause of death) that the charges were worthy of a guilty verdict. Circumstantial or forensic, it just wasn't enough. Though only two of the twelve jurors could not be convinced, in the end that's all that mattered.
@oliviatree If the job of the jury is to judge the evidence not the story, why is the trial then presented in such a story telling manner? Why isn't it then presented in a rigid mathematical manner? Do you know what I mean?
@Yousef AlSharif Ideally, the jury would hear a story of the crime that is backed up by rigid and irrefutable evidence. Ideally. What often happens is the jury forgets that evidence is a necessary component and vote on the most dramatic or sensationalistic or lurid story. The state most famous for sending people to prison, or to death row, based on the emotions elicited by a collective story is Texas. There a a crap ton of innocent people in prison in Texas just because the prosecution presented a story that conformed to the narrative that the jury found true "in their gut" rather than through evidence.
Using story format is mostly because that is how humans tend understand the world - through narrative. But to put someone in prison, there MUST be evidence to support that ruling or we're still living in the same world that burned witches.
usually when people lie (even good liars), your bullshit meter can detect SOMETHING to an extent. but casey’s ability to make up people and tell completely fake stories is so seamless and natural. it’s terrifying to think that people like this exist
Except she’s so terrible at alibis and improvising. Crazy how cops caught her in the act of wasting their time going to fake addresses and pretending she works at Universal and she tries to lie her way out of that.
It's so obvious that she was lying after showing a complete lack of emotions, and even telling her best friend that they are useless when she started crying. I'm truly shocked that she got away with this. I mean how is all of this not enough evidence? And where is the father? This case seems very suspicious to me in many aspects, more than just the made-up stories...
The phone calls, Caylee’s clothes, Casey’s debunked lies, the car, not a single call to police until her mom did it for her, the surveillance footage from that same day Caylee went missing, using her name in PAST tense with her parents for a few seconds or so, her search history the day Caylee was last seen showed homicidal intent, especially when you learn about the duct tape covering her airways, she went and partied for the entire time after, the diary entry written BY CASEY saying that she made the “right choice” after her daughter “went missing”, and the body was found not even 2 miles from the house. The defence tried to say she drowned, when again, there was duct tape over Caylee’s airways upon her discovery. AND YET, WITH ALL OF THIS CLEAR EVIDENCE, THEY DECIDED SHES NOT GUILTY???
Yeah, it's a horrible decision but the way the 'justice system' works unfortunately. For some reason, the prosecutors went after a 1st Degree Murder charge which I believe means a premeditated act. Which is apparently extremely hard to prove. Even though she did google searches before hand, there's still a possibility for that being innocent (I was listening to a true crime podcast and searched something they spoke about etc) all the strange shit she did after, the lies, the diary etc, the not calling the police all doesn't prove she planned and acted on killing her daughter, so the jury found her not guilty of this. If it was second degree murder or manslaughter, she mostly likely would have been found guilty and sentenced to prison. However proving she planned it wasn't possible through the courts. I guess the prosecutors wanted her to get as long in prison as possible so went for the maximum charge with the longest time, but this ended up working against them. I have no doubt she killed her daughter, but I believe the jury was 'correct' in their judgement, I'm sure they all knew she did it, but in the court and the evidence, its not enough to prove intent. Plus a lot probably wasn't admissible etc. Disgusting all around and the system needs changed.
@Charlie D If they can't prove it was premeditated, how can the system be so that then the verdict is "not guilty" instead of maybe the judge changing the charge to 2nd degree and not premeditated? Makes no sense to me.
@Charlie D that makes no sense even though they were going for first degree murder the jury could have come back with a verdict of second-degree non premeditated they didn't need to let her go because they couldn't prove it with premeditated
@Olavi Murto makes no sense to me either there are people that have been taken up on first-degree murder charges that end up with manslaughter instead so why not in this case?
@Leah vapes86 The jury can’t pass their own verdict or sentencing, they can only vote on whether the defendant is guilty of the charges presented. In this case the prosecution had to prove it was 1st degree murder beyond any reasonable doubt, which includes clear preconceived intent. That’s already very difficult to prove and with this there wasn’t enough physical evidence to prove it was 1st degree.
Now if the prosecution had ONLY charged her with manslaughter or child negligence I think she would’ve been found guilty, since there was sufficient evidence to prove it. But the defense got the jury to feel sorry for her troubled life of sexual abuse and focused on Casey’s character assassination by the media & prosecution. Once the seeds of doubt and confusion were planted in the jury it was enough. This whole case was drawn out and overblown getting national media coverage so I’m sure the jury felt a lot of pressure as well. In the end I believe they decided that any guilty ruling would be unfair and a result of the prosecution using the death of a child to make them feel angry at Casey instead of using the evidence to prove it. Also, juries are more likely to vote either “guilty on all counts” or “not guilty on all counts” instead of compromising, so that’s probably why Casey got to walk.
@Olavi Murto because the prosecution didn't even take into consideration that it was second degree they only persued first degree which made second degree out of the question entirely. The only way I can see how she could have possibly walked out of that courtroom a free woman is if she sold her soul.
@MerkMD This is a good point... But it seems like more evidence COULD have been obtained. Remnants of human remains in the car trunk maybe? It seems like a more thorough investigation was blocked by the defense somehow.
@Bruce Hidden the jury doesn't pursue charges lol they are not involved until after charges have been brought. They decide if the evidence proves the defendant committed the crime.
@Charlie D I agree with much of what you said, however they didn't need to find her not guilty on ALL charges. Murder in the first? Yes, possibly prosecutorial overconfidence. The rest? The jury was bamboozled by a slick defence.
@MerkMD Your concept of the standard of proof is absurdly high. There is absolutely no one else who COULD have committed this murder, would have had the motivation to do so, or opportunity. There are STRONG indications on all three counts that it was Casey. Proof does not need to be more than overcoming the boundary of "reasonable doubt". Is there ACTUALLY any "reasonable doubt" that Casey murdered Caylee? Really?
@Ana Alves It is such a loss to the world that Caylee's amazing skills of duct taping her own mouth and nose then, after placing herself in a bag, hiding herself in a swamp are never to be realised to the world [grim sarcasm].
@Lightning McNigga dude, this is coming out of hate;
yes I know she probably did it and she deserves to be in prison for the rest of her life, but you know why the Lady Justice is blindfolded? cuz she does not care about the optics or what seems to be the case, it is about the evidence, there is no leap of reasoning allowed. they could not pin it 100% on the mother and so she got out.
a mother being happy after her child goes "missing" is not a crime. searching for a way to kill people does not mean you killed one or going to. being an idiot or being disgusting is not a crime. lying does not make you a killer.
yeah, each one of of these is disgusting, but even all together is not enough evidence to put someone in jail without a leap in the argument. the justice system does not work based on optics, hate, or love, it does work based on evidence, and people are innocent unless proven guilty. now some times, it just doesn't work as expected, but I don't see it in this case. the final verdict of the jury seems reasonable, the prosecution managed to show that the mother is an asshole and wasted a lot of time, but could not prove that she was guilty without a reasonable doubt.
the justice system is a binary system, not a statistical one. in fact, statistics is what makes stereotypes, and we don't want stereotypes in the justice system. it does not matter if all this evidence point in almost definitely the mother doing some shenanigans, what matters is that it is "almost definitely", not "definitely". read MarkMD's comment right here.
@MerkMD Not enough evidence that she didn't either. The prosocution's fault for not trying to charge with child negligence or second degree murder. Easy to see the flaws in the judicial system.
Unfortunately, Baez used all these distracting stories to raise reasonable doubt to the jury. I found it reprehensible, but it was effective. The jury has to believe, according to evidence, beyond a reasonable doubt to convict. I disagree with them, but that's what happened.
@Locutus well not exactly its more complex and ofc evidence and other things also ensured her freedom but if this was a man doing something like this that could cause some bias , or if it was a person of color. im just saying that could’ve played a big role, shes a woman, a white woman.
This was so unnecessary..if she didn't want to be a mom she could have put her up for adoption or had her parents raise her (they obviously loved Caylee). Casey is a disgusting excuse for a human being.
Shame she didn't apply herself to something worthwhile.With some college courses in creative writing she would have been a good writer and maybe even could have gotten published.Sadly she was to lazy
She's probably grinning at the fact that even though we all know she did it, she could lie herself put of it.
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Brian Hale2021-06-06 01:43:44 (edited 2021-06-06 01:44:35 )
My theory she convinced the kid to 'play a game' where she had her duct tape herself. A child doesn't know better. Was probably already in the bag, and mom zipped it up and walked away. This, in a messed up way allowed her conscience to be free of guilt. "I didn't do it". There's a few points where you can see she thinks she will be fine because deep down she feels that she didn't TECHNICALLY do it and withholds pieces that would make her look bad. Seems typical in children with a parent who is a lawyer or police. They know the system. They know from the beginning what not to say. So I think everyone DOES know, everyone except her because she deep down feels, she didn't do it. And technically she didn't. And that's good enough for people like her.
@Bingus McDrangus actually shut up. Watch the video, did you see the diary entry, 12 days after the child's death? That to me is evidence enough (although I'm no jury i think I'm reasonable enough).
@Martin Stu I never said I should be in charge of the system. I just said that I think that casey admitting that she had made a decision in her life she did not regret, considering her child has stopped her from what she wanted to do, and this was 12 days after the missing report, is in my opinion, really hard evidence against her. It has nothing to do with the interrogation
@Icylapras24 Exactly. You're no Jury. And your thought process makes the idea of you ever being on a jury terrifying. You convict based on the evidence. None of her journal entries were evidence of any crime or an admission of any crime.
@Martin Stu I like how this video doesn’t even make any sense to comment this on, as it had no effect on her because of just how inhuman the murderer is. And no the system is a lot worse than what “people like him” say lmao
@Marko Bighead ah. Lets use ur logic again We have evidence that the killer used this knife to kill Jane We have evidence the only fingerprints on the knife, is Mr. Bean. Mr. Bean was close to the victim and had many arguments with them Can you convict him? By ur logic apparently not, because despite all the evidence, you can’t “prove” Mr. Bean killed Jane, because we don’t have video evidence, or 100% proof that they killed.
If your logic was applied we probably would’ve caught like 2% of murderers up until video evidence was allowed LMFAOO
@Marko Bighead to make it more clear: as A jury you’re expected to A. Look at and interpret the evidence B. From your perspective, interpret what happened and if it’s conclusive C. Talk with and discuss with other members of the jury
What youre asking for is a bunch of computer simulations with the probability the crime was committed based on the evidence provided
@Bingus McDrangus I never said I thought i would be a good judge or jury or lawyer. I don't get why everyone thinks I did. I said that I wasn't a jury because you would think they have a good understanding of what is strong evidence.
Even though she did not go to jail, she will be punished as she will be rejected by everyone and will never find a job or be accepted. Everyone knows who she really is
@Brian Hale Xanax medication comes in one form known as Xani Bars. Xani the Nanny is code for drugging someone, in this case her child, and while shes passed out Casey would go party. I believe this final time, as she had a pattern of doping her kid when she would go out, she OD'd her THEN duct taped the face in case it wasnt strong enough and the child would survive. Would explain the "foolproof" portion AS WELL as to why she kept the body in the car a couple days. And yes, moms do dope their kids , my first ever gf's mother also did this her as kid for example. That woman is also a monster.
Wow! Not guilty of all charges even if you are a child's KILLER! Casey's attorney lies about her maybe she did something for him to help her out of her messed! Yeah! Some woman or anyone can do anything for money, sex, and to get away with crime! What she wants him to say about her so he did! There was enough evidents that really points her out! Why didn't they put the child on autopsy! There was smelly decomposed body in the vehicle, ducted tape around her mouth and buried in a baby's 👶 blanket! Who could do that to a child? Where was the investigators? Did anyone investigated 🔎 the crime? Where is she now? Still party every night 🌙 while no one's to worry about? Kaylee was the prettiest girl and she didn't have to died in the hands of a monster!👹 NO JUSTICE FOR KAYLEE! Casey don't deserve to be called MOTHER! SHE'S LIES ABOUT EVERY SINGLE WORD OUT OF HER MOUTH 👄 TO OVER POWER THE AUTHORITIES! It's just like, you can lie about, you killed your child and walk free upon the earth 🌎 like nothing happened! So lying about everything you did wrong can put you on a good spot!🤑😈
As fucked up as it is, they did their job. It hard to cope with, sure. But Prosecution couldn't prove that she was murdered (At least it wasn't enough for that jury)
Some good things that came out of this though: She was convicted of 4 counts of lying to law enforcement, and one count of check forgery. $217,000 payment (For lying to cops and the search for Caylee) Caylee's Law.
So yes, she may be free now but we ended up with a case law to make sure something like this never happens again.
one of them recently spoke out and said they regret not trying harder to pursue a lesser accusation (neglect, child endangerment, etc.) to get something to stick. hopefully others feel the same and will speak out to prevent something like this from happening again
@KuuYami What's the reasonable doubt in this case? She built a web of lie to cover what happened to Caley, the babysitter doesn't exist, her attorney told the jury Caley drown in the pool... Then convict her of misshandling a dead body (or whatever it's called). It is beyond me how she could simply walked out free.
@pronoe I'm not a lawyer, but the fact there was no coroner that gave an actual cause of death is an issue. I know which way I would have voted if I were in the jury. But I think if the prosecution pursued lesser charges she would have been convicted (Like negligent manslaughter, I forget what degree it is).
Now you are blaming the Jury for calling out the mistakes/lack of proof/ from the prosecution?! Dude, its not their fault. They did their job, and they did it good this time.
@white240490 "She was obviously guilty". Imma stop you right there, chief, thats really all you need to say. Thats it. Nothing else. And their jobs are still dirty and they have no basic human shame and concience.
@Voil Velev this is an asinine and frankly a fascist take. The defense's job is to represent the defendant. They are an integral part of living in a free and just society. Without them you would be defenseless in the face of the entire court system.
This means that you can't ever blame lawyers for what crimes their defendants. It's their job to get the lowest possible sentence for the defendant, guilty or not, no matter what. That's a good thing, even if in this case Casey got away with her crimes because of it. It's THAT important! I think if you'd meet most defense lawyers (not all) you'd find they're very ethically minded people. That's why they do the job (besides the pay, but don't forget public defense lawyers!)
@Lourdes McKay why do you think she walked free ? it's because of past experience, many innocent people went to prison because they were sentenced based on emotions.
@Voil Velev whoa whoa whoa... it is the law that all people accused of a crime have a right to legal representation unless they choose to waive that right, and defense attorneys exist solely to fulfill that legal right. Everyone has a right to a trial, and in that trial, both parties have the right to make their arguments, and lawyers make those arguments for their clients because they understand the law in ways a layperson never could. If that system were not in place, criminal justice would entirely be a caste system. The jury are the ones who decided the case, not the lawyers, who were doing their appointed responsibility, for which refusing to do so would see them barred from the profession, which is merely interpretating the law for their client.
You have to ne proven guilty beyond any doubt. There was not enough evidence. Her actions point to her having done this 100%. But there was still no hard evidence.
@Lourdes McKay its OJ Simpson all over again, shes going to subtly admit to doing it once the statue of limitations elapses, pin this comment once that happens and its just going to be a big bummer for humanity
@KuuYami It's so conflicting honestly because the entire case was just handled terribly. But personally, I ask where was that jury's common sense? No one is going to put duct tape over someone who's already dead's airways. Sure, you can disassociate after an incredibly traumatic event and do some crazy things but any good mother on the planet's first instinct would have been to dial 9-1-1 and perform CPR, even if the child was beyond the point of return.
@Marina If I remember correctly, there was disagreement about whether the duct tape was found over the child's mouth, or whether it was on the bag the child was found in. I'm not quite sure how they couldn't figure this out, because the police took photos of the crime scene. We can see those photos, but because they're photos of a minor (Caylee), the photo is blurred, so it's impossible to tell where the duct tape is. But the jury would have seen the photo without the blurring.
@Lourdes McKay If the state can't prove beyond reasonable doubt that it was her, the jury can't just go with a guilty verdict. The prosecution didn't make a good enough case. But yeah everything involved probably has nightmares. Except for Casey.
People keep saying the "without reasonable doubt" but neglect to give a possible way this couldve been a coincidence. The pool thing is wayyyy to far fetched and faulty to believe, and if you actually think that its possible I'm concerned
@Biosquid239 I believe that she's guilty. I think she's a piece of shit. But without enough hard evidence to prove it, you can't convict someone. The justice system isn't perfect here, and it's these few cases that go the wrong way, it's not that often.
Casey is innocent. There's no physical evidence that she did something with Kaylee, she's just a congenital liar. Leave this poor woman alone she lost her child.
it was obviously a murder case .. first of all why did the mother not reported her child missing .. even when you watch the first minutes where the grandmother called the police , casey's response when her mother told her the 911 wanted to talk to her was like she does not want to be cooperative .. as the evidence also had that the child was seen with a ducktape on his mouth and nose a sign that she was murdered .. most evidence also is the diary where she said she never regret the decision she made .. i feel disgusted how the lawyer defended casey although at the very start casey was lying the whole time in the police station about saying locations , jobs and even making up names and people that never exist .. i hope the people who helped casey will find theirselves being haunted by the poor little girl ..
@Voil Velev but im not in defense of this lawyer but you guys need to understand this is their jobs this case probably boosted his carrer reputation to a all time high and brought him alot of new customers not all jobs are honourable jobs Cia Fbi and Dea agents dose things 10 times worse then this but we still close our mouths because it’s supposedly their jobs just to make things clear i do dont agree with that lawyer i do not condone his actions although im not pointing Any fingers at him
I flew in a plane for 3 full days over different locations in Orlando searching for the body of Caylee. We utilized the airplane we used for work to see if we could see anything in and around the woods near the Anthony's house and along the woods and banks of waterways in the area. When they found her not guilty, I lost my mind. I am commenting on here after stopping the video at the 8:00 mark. I can not watch this or listen to this any further because it makes me that upset. I am sure this video is very informative, well put together and will help many understand things that probably were too young during this time period...but thank you to the people that are able to make such a video and make sure people will always remember this monster.
Patrick Hanson unfortunately you share the same first name: Patrick McKenna. He’s a private investigator now and she works with him and helps with his business.
Can’t make this stuff up. We live in a shitshow world.
After seeing what had happened to Casey with evidences, my heart pained. The only thing I wanna add is that Justices is a lie & the so called Justices System is a big joke. Anyone with cash and good contacts can get away.
She was genuinely happy when her parents were focused on her but as soon as they mentioned her daughter she shut down and was clearly angry I think she got so jealous that she literally killed her daughter and she literally called the cops to get attention I think this girl has
@sosolidbaleb it should never be guilty until proven innocent. you say it's wrong but if you ever get wrongfully sentenced, like people have and lost years of your life that you'll never get back, which has happened, Im sure your tune will change right quick. This case however is fucking bizarre.
@Suh Dude ugh the system is so twisted in that way. Whether its being rich or being overlooked because of your gender or race, its just stupid that things like this even happen in society. I hate it deeply as a women that women like this are on the street. Any parent wouldnt want this mother around any of their kids.
@ThePersonBehindThisIs Asian miscarriage isn’t killing someone. it’s still someone dying tho. miscarriage can happen to anyone my mother had a miscarriage she didn’t choose to do anything. This lady obviously should’ve never had a kid.
@Jack Campbell the way u said ur first comment could be interpreted in so many different ways. And yeah, it is, force birth (or pro lifers) believe so and i heard Texas(or was it in another state/country, idk) made a law that it is infact murder and its the mother's fault. Fucking ridiculous.
And I say women privilege because if this is a man 0% chance the jury says he gets away with it. But again I understand the way y’all think I contest it because I’m an evil villain but really I’m just like you and you and you. Male values still exist.
@Jack Campbell your first comment was poorly phrased. There isn't much to do with 'privilege' in this case, since it's absurd all around. It sounded like a poorly disguised attempt at dissing women, but I'm guessing that wasn't the intention.
@ThePersonBehindThisIs Asian you've made me beyond sad today that you couldn't take five seconds to research before spewing your diarrhea out of your mouth. Its Georgia. And the law would only be ineffect if a woman is found to be directly RESPONSIBLE for causing her own miscarriage. That is in fact murder and dangerous to the individual who does it.
Hopefully karma will get her nobody that lies this much and kills her daughter and get away with it will escape something bad happening to her her whole life look at oj it took awhile but he did some time at least later In life
@JC82 cumbee well the prosecution didn’t exactly do a fantastic job with the evidence. Also the fact that there was no confirmed cause of death means that either situation posed, was only a possibility.
She is free in the court of law but, she can’t even leave her home. The world knows she is guilty, and if she is seen; she will be hounded by the people.
I am first baffled that she didn't bother changing her name, but moreso that she had the gall to remain in Florida. She has to know she will never have peace from being harassed. I guess chalk it up to more evidence of her Narcissism. I realize her court ordered profiles indicated nothing, but man the Narcissism just permeates from her.
She is not free, in the sense she is out, but she has hell to pay and she has either stayed in hiding or changed her face to accomplish that. It will all rain down on her in a severe way in one way or another. She is after all the most hated mother in America!
@sara _ uhh yeah you must not have been around much when this trial was happening. It was national news, especially when she was found not guilty.. the outrage was far and wide.
I still can’t believe she was found innocent of aggravated child abuse. At the minimum, she should have been charged and tried for neglect of a child. I was in high school during this case and found the jury’s decision of innocence pertaining to aggravated child abuse absolutely absurd. From both a legal and personal standpoint, I cannot see how the jury said she neither abused nor neglected Caylee. A decade later and I’m still interested in this one obvious miscarriage of our criminal justice system.
@The Alpacaa when we see millions of arrests, obviously there are going to be some errors. We should always strive to do better. However, this basic framework was the best humanity has ever come up with. Unfortunately we’ve piled laws on top of laws.
We hear about the innocents wrongly convicted often. Which is good. We should. What that number really is would be impossible to say.
I think you meant convicted. Not the same as charged.
@John English isn't my first language, so I probably do mean convicted. But my point is that we seem to get the worst of both worlds. Lots of guilty people go free and at the same time lots of innocent people are convicted. But you're right, we don't know the numbers so I can't say which is more common.
@dacymark it's literally not though, that COULD be a factor but it also could literally just be fucking absurd and have nothing to do with her gender. so no, not point blank. just maybe lol it's not like this is a common thing
@sosolidbaleb no what he said is true, if a guilty man walks free the justice system has failed but if a innocent man has been convicted then not only has the justice system failed but it has also wronged someone
@Vanz Who? And none of that has any tangible proof to it. Supposition, sure. Likelyhood yes. But that doesnt mean a damn thing when someone must be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt.
I like many others believe she is 100% guilty and was a horrible mother but I also think the prosecution was terrible and lacked the experience to even try a case of this magnitude. They did very little as far as facts , timelines , and investigation. And relied solely on emotions and not facts .It was Too many questions and the lack of answers provided by prosecution that allowed her to walk.
@John Agree with Blackstone's formulation and I understand innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, so maybe we need a better system for choosing intelligent jurors, as this woman is as guilty as the day is long. O.J. ring a bell, or was that a bit of payback so we didn't harm those 'wittle' egos...
@Nicholas Limon couple points wrong there. You don’t need dna to prove a murder case. And despite what tv shows, you don’t even need a body. And you can use just circumstantial evidence if it’s strong. People misunderstand the definition of circumstantial evidence a lot, and strong circumstantial evidence, especially multiple of strong ones, can win a case. There is so much here that they should’ve won, but it looks like they aimed too high with their charges and argued their case poorly.
What's really disturbing is how some guy could be oblivious to her situation and get romantically involved with her, have a child together and she could just repeat everything and potentially cover her tracks better this time around.
@John No way dude, guilty until proven innocent is better. If it turns out they were innocent, compensate them. It sucks but it beats letting 10 lunatics run around.
@John the most funny thing is that isnt the case. Prosecutors laugh at fools like you.
They are not about the victims or "justice" but a good sentence, thats what pays them better. Theres plenty, pleeeeeeeenty of cases of people being wrongly accused just for the sake of a sentence. In this case she play the victim good enough to not being charged.
What a good example of simpery and delusion in a just system that doesnt exists. The judicial system exists only to protect the powerful, the rich, and those who serve them.
I live in Florida, & nearly the Same exact thing happened to my only Son when he was just 3 years old, on new Years Eve 2017/2018, while he was left alone with his Mother, & Grandmother. He was found in a Canal, behind the Apartment Complex, where no Cameras or lights were located. It happened on the Loudest night of the year, just after the sun had gone down. When discovered by Coral springs Police Department, he had a Large Visible Red Mark on the back of his Neck, that was NEVER explained. His Mother lived on the Second Level, exterior wall, up against the canal, that surrounded the entire Structure on three sides, & the fourth was up against a road. At three years Old, my Son could NOT Negotiate the staircase on his own, in one Direction, OR the other, without me helping him, as is normal for any three year old, on a dangerous concreate staircase. It must have been almost twenty steps. So the spin that CSPD believed from Allison was, that while she was napping after a Big Day out, & that her infallible 62 year old Mother, whom had a serious AXE to grind with me, was supposed to be watching my Son, Jack. Whom they said, pushed a footlocker that weighed twice as much as him, across the carpeted Living room floor, of their 800 Square foot apartment, to the front door. Then unlocked the Dead bolt the was near the top of the Door frame (I have Photos) then opened the door, that normally flew open, & was on a chain to keep from ripping free, due to the wind coming off of the Canal, & let himself outside. Then closed the door behind his three year old little self. While no one heard, or saw anything. Allegedly Allison had woken up, & couldn't find Jack in the tiny little apartment (ROLLING EYES). So she then asked her all knowing, wise, Oracle of Delphi Mother, Debora. Where is Jack? to which she (lied) had no answer. It was 6:38, December 31, 2017. My phone Rang, & it said Allison. she has been ignoring my Calls to come see, & pick up my child for 90 days at least by this point. I answered the Phone, & the Verbatim that came out of my mouth is as Follows " Allison, you had better tell me my child is Fucking Alive, & Breathing" all I heard was indiscernible screaming. I repeated myself. I then heard her state in plain English (Please tell my Husband what happened to his child) I proceeded to loose my shit. The CSPD had alerted Hollywood PD to my location, & they shortly their after surrounded my house. The CSPD Closed the case inside of 16 Hours. They NEVER filed any charges against the both of them, & took pity on them both because of their blubbering. Additionally they both were MORE than easy on the eyes. I was Spitting Venom, to the CSPD, on on every Social media Site I was a part of. The Lead SVU Det. from CSPD called me, & said " so I hear you're going around online, telling everyone that Allison is a baby killer?" to which my response was "where did you read that?" She then said 'I personally haven't read anything, this is just what I'm told" We had a VERY colorful conversation, that I will not bore you with the Details of because I think at this point you are starting to see a Manifest Observable Trend of Behavior. The LEAD SVU DET. called me no less than FIVE more time, Both attempting to Threaten, & broker with me. I don't think she was expecting, or was ready for what she heard next.
Allison then Motioned for a Restraining order to which Michael G. Kaplan, of the 17th Circuit Vigorously issued, with glee I might add. Additionally the Hearing was Dually used to make public statements to Banish any Notion put Forward By Myself, about the lack of effort on the part of the CSPD to bring charges against the mother of my only Son, & to fortify the concept of the mental health of Allison's Mother, whom DID have a history of Mental health issues, & suicidal ideations. (It was a Ludacris cross between a dog, & pony show, & the dismemberment of William the Wallace) Then they went on to suggest that at just Three years old, too young to make such a determinization, as stated by the DSM, that he was somehow limited, & that's how he houdinied himself into the position he was "FOUND" in. The 17th Circuit treated me like a criminal. They then Gave Allison her two year restraining order, took my Firearms, to which I resisted greatly for a years time, Until they Jailed me, with no hope of release, until I willingly surrendered my Property in a Most Perverse of Circumstances. I couldn't help but observe that they took large sadistic measure of Pleasure out of that, & relished in it, Disarming a Disabled Veteran, who's son just Died in an EXTREAMLY suspicious fashion, while NOT charging the Party RESPONSIBLE for his Well being at the time of his Death. I mean, could you find a MORE Luciferin practice?
By the Time our Divorce paperwork had gone though, NOT a YEAR later, she was Living on the other side of the Continent, already 9 Months Pregnant, with someone else's child, who was still active duty. Her second string choice that she knew from NAVY "A" school, that she never took seriously, while we both were Enlisted (Another Story). "JAMES" was trying to "Romance the stone" the entire time we were trying to repair our Marriage, whom her mother was endlessly trying to Broker, & interject herself in. (Narcissistic Mother Disorder).
Ladies, & Gentlemen of the Jury, I hear put forth the Obvious Notion that my Only Son was Murdered to eliminate a Liability, & to sever ties with a Husband whom did not meet the Approval of the Mother In Law. I will let you Draw the conclusion of whom most likely did the unthinkable.
@ThePersonBehindThisIs Asian you sound extremely uneducated on the subject. A miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion. That means that the fetus died due to a complication both medical or traumatic. This has no political bearing at all, regardless of what side you’re on (pro-choice/life).
@Dome what does this event mean? He never mentioned anything about machines or people? Are you saying it wasn’t the justice system that failed her when that’s literally what happened in the video?
@Noah Adams Why does he need to propose solutions for bringing up a clear problem? Unless your statement is alluding to the fact that you think the justice system ISNT flawed…..
@emarythomp it means that humans make mistakes. I don’t know if you watched the damn thing, but at the end that lawyer really pulled the heart strings of those judges, including my own. Even tho I knew she was guilty that lawyer made me feel more sympathy for her. Don’t make the mistake of thinking humans are not flawed.
@Dome No shit humans make mistakes. How does that disprove anything the original commenter said? Again did the justice system not fail that little girl? The jury is an extension of the justice system is it not?
@Agentixc Of course humans are flawed and the justice system is not a perfect machine. Who are you trying to argue? I just pointed out that the justice system failed. It’s not “spilling humanly hatred”, whatever that means. The justice system has failed numerous amounts of times, enough times that I believe it is valid to call it out when it fails. Also it’s a comment section where people can comment whatever they want. Your heartstrings got pulled? So did mine, but for different reasons. My heart aches for that child and every other person who was not served the justice they deserved. I’ll comment what I want to comment. If it bothers you ignore it, just like how I will be ignoring any other comment you write after this.
The prosecution failed the child. You have to prove beyond A reasonable doubt the charges that you are filing. They failed. The jury knew she killed her daughter. The judge knew she killed her daughter. I know she killed her daughter. But I wouldn't have voted guilty. The evidence was circumstantial, there were too many holes, and again this isn't because people think she's innocent. The jury did not think she was innocent. That's not what they're voting. It's not guilty or innocent. It's guilty or not guilty. And the fact was they didn't know. They know she did something but they failed to prove first degree murder.
@Thicker Constrictor thank you for providing one clear voice of reason in these comments. I just posted a parent comment questioning all of these people saying that the justice system failed, before I saw your comment.
Justice system fails more often than you realize. There are hundreds of innocent people serving time for crimes not committed and hundreds of criminals walking free.
It's more of a "you definitely know the person next to you murdered her daughter and is pretty bad at lying about it but no one else seems to pick up on even the obvious clues"
She's scary af. Imagine meeting this kind of person and hanging out with them. Who knows what else she might've done and got away with it. Frightening.
@Joey johnson if successful they often find positions of perceived power in society. Police, lawyers, politicians especially, some religious leaders especially, and a few CEOs come to mind. Like Zuckerberg, Bezos, etc. They will do anything if it advances their position no matter who they trample. The sad thing is that our society promotes this behavior.
Guess what you need actual proof to sentence someone to death She was charged for lying to police but that proves nothing about her guilt. Reasonable doubt? Check.
@aman she didn't report her missing child, her car smelled like death and she made up false narratives and non-existing people. Anybody with a sane mind would say she's guilty and in any other country she would have been convicted of first-degree murder.
That indeed is very suspicious, but is it enough to send someone to death row, I'm not so sure. To me it looks like the prosecution did a shitty job providing real evidence like camera footages, witnesses, fingerprints, dna etc., perhaps because they were too confident that a mom not reporting her child missing is enough proof. Perhaps she actually wanted her dead, but didn't act on it. And then she was killed by someone else & the mother was just happy about it. This of course is a long shot, but not impossible. It was prosecution's job to show there are no other possibilities but the mother killed her. They failed to do so.
@aman reasonable doubt? No. That's very UNREASONABLE doubt! Looks t all the evidence that's pointing to her. Any doubt would be completely unreasonable.
@aman i agree. the attorney was good, but could have been better. We still dont technically know how the baby died. we cant just say she did it because it seems like she did. there are hundreds of ways she could have died. there is absolute reasonable doubt. sucks, but true.
@Matthew Anthony OJ was a superstar, celebrity who had top of the line lawyers and the world cheering on as he was a god in sports. Not like Casey here. The comparison doesn't work. I'm saying if it was a normal, non-white male in this exact situation, they would've been in jail in a second.
@Saad khan No. That is just what Liberals like to say so that minorities keep voting Democrat. By the way, it works. They have been voting non-stop for the same party since 1932.
@Saad khan turn to Christ and repent before it’s too late because He loves us so much He died for us and God His Father raised Him from the dead and loves us 🥰
@Denizhan Karaca turn to Christ and repent before it’s too late because He loves us so much He died for us and God His Father raised Him from the dead and loves us 🥰
@Saad khan turn to Christ and repent before it’s too late because He loves us so much He died for us and God His Father raised Him from the dead and loves us 🥰
@aman turn to Christ and repent before it’s too late because He loves us so much He died for us and God His Father raised Him from the dead and loves us 🥰
She got off because it took them so long to find the body that by the time they got it, you couldn’t tell how she died. That’s reasonable doubt in and of itself. Heartbreaking that the body was just a mile away and it took them that long to find it. Circumstantial cases are really hard to prove, especially if the defendant has a sociopath for a defense attorney.
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@Wild Bill Slunksauce . That is UNreasonable doubt. And if a man had been on trial, the jury would have convicted him. Time and time again, the jury finds «doubt» when a woman is on trial, where a man would be convicted even if they found no corpse at all.
Pretty, manipulative white girl, good attorney who she was sleeping with, etc etc. Nobody ever called her out on her bullcrap. Easy to raise enough doubt. I really feel for those grandparents.
@Saad khan on one of those 9-11 calls videos some black woman shot and killed all 4 of her kids and she got 7 years probation and just had to show up for time out from 4pm-8pm
@Rebecca Serti I feel terrible for whatever country you live in the. If you are going to sentence a human being to DEATH you better be able to prove without a reasonable doubt they committed the crime not "this is suspicious" remember sending them to DEATH I certainly wouldn't want to live in a place were people are sentenced to death on suspicion without concrete proof.
That's jury's for you, once listened to a life long criminal and his comments regarding jury's, he said they could never be trusted and that they let him go free when he really should have got time many times, other times when he didn't do the crime and the case was weak he got some time, totally unpredictable was his view of them in a lifetime of contact with them and a lifetime of knowing others that had plenty of contact with them!
and why would her parents be the ones to bring the attention to the police!?! if they were guilty and they all were just covering this up, why would they bring it to the police when no one was even aware she was missing????
I'd like to know why her trunk smelled of a dead body as her father who was a cop suggested. Did the jury know about that? This chick is a born sociopath and deceiver. She was all things to all people as a means to fulfill whatever objective was in front of her at the time. As for the jury, the lawyer's skill convinced those idiots. It's still totally incomprehensible to me that they rendered that verdict.
How come the search history for foolproof sufication wasn't talked about in court... If I saw that search history and they could prove she was the one that did the search then this is no brainer. That plus the good life tattoe. So many things the prosecution screwed up on
Florida is notoriously loaded with satanic cults that ritually kill children...this might have been something like this and that's why it was covered up so well
Jurors can't just come up and say THESE TRAUMAS CAN'T LEAD HER TO TAPE BABY'S HEAD, they won't be listened by court until some "professional psychiatrists" come up and confirm that they won't, and i don't think there is an procedure like consulting to psychiatrists if this is possible, even if it existed, she would come up and say "I went paranoid i don't know" and they will have to accept it because there is still no directforward evidence.
@alpocalyptic But there is circumstantial. And in the criminal justice system that is just as good. Her behavior was just awful and raises too many questions.
I don't think she made that part up. When she talked to her dad and he said he wanted to give her a Papa Joe hug...maybe That's why he covered for her. Her dads sitting right there in the courtroom, he had no outraged expressions... Who knows.
@dietdrpepper15 do you think the satanists just went away??? They were dug in DEEP into the churches, law enforcement, millitary and Hollywood. Did you just think it was a fad that just became unpopular? Let me assure you that satanists take their practices and agenda VERY seriously. So seriously that their agendas span millennia not just the length of your attention span.
- searched "foolproof suffocation" - last person to see caylee alive - body with duct tape found nearby - wild goose chase and lies from Casey prior to arrest - oh, let's not forget she displays classic SOCIOPATH traits HOW IS CASEY WALKING FREE? HOW THE HELL DOES DROWNING ADD UP? Sick to my stomach.
@Trey Brannon Keep telling that to yourself. I guess it makes it easier to sleep while we do nothing to change it. Meanwhile the evils on earth remain unscathed and millions more will suffer of such horrible fates.
Classic sociopath traits means nothing tho. You can be sociopath but still innocent. The browser history also not a strong enough evidence since it could be someone else using her account. Unfortunately, there is no strong evidence to declare her guilty
It is infuriating that she is walking around free, but I blame the prosecution. How would they not have seen such a predictable defense coming? They should have been ready for it. It is not very likely, but it brings up just enough doubt: - Search was done day before, so obviously that would be very hard to explain, except as a coincidence with a bizarre curiosity. Big part of why I think that she is guilty. - Last person to see Caylee alive: Yes, but she would be if Caylee had drowned too and she tried to hide it and panicked. - Body with duct tape: In case Caylee was found, she had made it look like a kidnapping to probably fit with the story she made up similar to the one she gave the police. She added the extra month when she didn't call it in and ToD doesn't fit. With the "accident" story, it does fit. - Lies and wild goose chase: She was scared to be discovered that she had let her daughter drown, so she tried to hide it. Would fit in nicely with the defense of the "accident" as well as the murder. - Sociopathic traits: I have some as well. Nothing like this though, but enough to not be sad at funerals. Also having to put on a fake smile most of the time, no matter what. I hide behind that smile like it is armor, sort of like she does with her mood. My point is not that she is not a cold blooded killer, but that this particular thing is not in itself clear evidence of any intent without an evaluation. In fact, this could equally be used as a defense to show why she reacted as strange as she did with an accident.
My point with this is to show why a jury might arrive at the conclusion that everything is screaming that she did it, but there is still that nagging possibility that there are two stories here and that the other story could mostly line up. I won't claim to know the law and courts well enough to know for sure, but I think the prosecution went all-in on the 1st degree murder and they were so sure that they had it in the bag that they didn't consider anything else or even did their best. If they had, then they would have seen this very obvious "accident" claim coming as well as preparing to pursue other avenues. It is my opinion that she is guilty, but I would have to be at the trial and be presented with the evidence as well as witness statements in order to make a definitive decision.
@Trey Brannon hold on if she takes Jesus as her personal saviour, she will spend eternity in Heaven. Praise the Lord ... Bless the Lamb who taketh away the sins of the world.
@Trey Brannon You know damn well that nobody knows if any afterlife exists, yet you say "that's all we have is the afterlife". That's called lying when you say something you know is false
@TankInATree I understand that it's not enough to prove her guilty, but anyways, someone who doesn't report to anyone a dead body and actually keeps it and drives with it in her own car it's insanely enough to be someone to watch out for.
I think the worst part isn't that there was so much evidence pointing towards her involvement in her baby's death, but that all none of her testemonies were corroborated and the jury still took her word.
Jeffrey's the biggest example for this, when he said he hadn't been working at universal for 6 years, wasn't friends with Casey, never lived in North carolina or jacksonville, didn't know any Zenaida Gonzalez and didn't even have any kids Casey's credibility should have been shattered and neither the jury nor the judge should be buying into anything else she says.
I mean, if she'll lie that much about how she met the nanny just imagine what else she'll lie about. Whoever gave this sentence was inexplicably incompetent
@Nemausos Hey this might sound crazy to you, but you know people can believe that, AND do something about it, at the same time? Crazy right? What makes you think if a person believes in something hinders them from doing something, at all? Imagine all those judges who believe in that and still put down murderers. You commenting this on your azz is more bs
It absolutely baffles me. There was so much evidence. Why would she wait so long to contact police? She never showed that she cared about Caylee. They knew SHE LIED about several things. How the hell does any of this add up. So infuriating.
@Mikeyy if there is no afterlife then the ppl who say there is afterlife, have nothing to lose cuz there will be nothing. But if there IS afterlife, then the ppl who don't believe in it will be at disadvantage. So according to your belief, Trey would hv nothing to lose if he lies. Simple as that
Lived in Florida when this happened. Watched this all unfold. 15 years later and hearing her lies still gives me the same gut churning reactions. Just a disgusting human being. I cannot believe she wasn’t found guilty. Hope her life is absolutely miserable.
So she claimed her daughter drowned in the pool... but when they found her, she had ducktape over her mouth. The jury just ignored all the facts. People don't just do things without any reason. Who would tape their dead childs mouth? I'm so happy there's nothing like a jury in where I'm from
@Hi im Fieldy Also in the Netherlands we do not have a jury, the judge decides. That's his job. I always find it baffling that the fate of a person is decided by random people.
It’s kinda funny… I’d bet that most people here in the US are oblivious to the fact that we actually have bench trials—in which the judge acts as both the finder of law and the finder of fact, and basically decides the case instead of a jury—all the time. Traffic court is I think a good typical example of this: the logistics of getting a jury together for every traffic court case would be impractical, and the stakes of traffic infractions are sufficiently low that presumably it’s been determined to be a worthwhile tradeoff for practicality. But many other things, such as civil lawsuits in federal court, can also potentially go to a bench trial, depending on the circumstances.
For serious criminal stuff, though, there’s typically (or is it always… I get state and federal courts stuff mixed up sometimes) a guaranteed right to a jury trial. And so anything remotely high profile (that would be covered by the media or whatever) tends to be a jury trial.
At least in principle, the notion is that a jury of “your peers” will be able to most fairly adjudicate a person. I’m not an expert on the subject; all I know is that apparently that was considered the best idea by the late-18th-century people who set up our country’s system. I’m sure there are pros and cons to it; the cons are definitely at least easier to think of, I think. Stuff like peremptory strikes being allowed—where lawyers from either side can dismiss particular people during jury selection without having to give a reason (which is of course therefore used in many cases to remove people for completely illegal reasons, such as their race)—make it questionable that juries are really as representative as we’d like to think. Another major downside of juries is that most people are really dumb. (I’m sure competing systems have their own downsides too.)
Maybe so that if/when she was found it would appear that she was kidnapped and suffocated instead of drowning in the pool while under Casey’s supervision..? If Casey was initially planning on sticking with the kidnapping story to hide that she drowned in the pool she would want to make it seem like it was a kidnapping.
Personally I don’t believe that, but trying to answer your question as to what the jury may have been thinking about the duct tape. Or maybe the evidence wasn’t conclusive that the duct tape was actually around her mouth..? Maybe they felt that the duct tape was used to seal the bag?
In Australia a jury is only present for civil cases. Something so serious like this should absolutely not be handled by anyone other than a professional
I think the closest thing to a jury we have in Germany is "Schöffengericht", but they only deal with rather minor cases (with a possible max sentence of 4 years according to Wikipedia). Schöffen are basically "honorary judges", but not just some random civilians.
How could that NOT be anybody's first question, given the circumstances? It's like giving someone kudos for asking "what's the address?" , after calling to have a pizza delivered to the house. If that wasn't the first question, the dispatcher would not be a very good 9-1-1 call screener.
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Ian Skrivarnik2022-03-03 16:47:18 (edited 2022-03-04 02:51:44 )
the lawyer was like "She drowned in a pool." and a few minutes he was like "The question of how she died will never be answered." (when the definitive cause of death; suffocation was proven beyond any shadow of a doubt). he was also like "Don't sentence my client based on feelings, theories and possibilities without providing any evidence..." and then proceeded to base his defence on feelings, theories and possibilities while not providing zero evidence whatsoever, when the police had a crapton of evidence and facts proving Casey's involvement.
how the jury found her not guilty is absurd. the jury wasn't incompetent, they were bribed.
@Cat Boy How is that an excuse? They could have ended the trial by finding her guilty, as she obviously was. I can't believe anyone would even give that excuse. We wanted to get out of jury duty faster so we ignored all the evidence and let a child-murderer free.
Hard to believe it's been almost fourteen years. So sad. That little girl should be getting ready to go to her prom, getting her driver's license, looking at colleges, and giggling with her friends over their crushes. So freakin' sad and pointless. What a waste. 😢
Rewatching this one year later and still cannot believe she got off. This woman is proof that the justice system is broken.
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The Dark Knight2022-03-03 02:40:59 (edited 2022-03-03 02:44:42 )
I always thought that I was good at lying if I needed to but this girl is like an entirely different plane of reality with it. If there were Academy Awards or Oscar's for pathological lying she would be the Daniel Day Lewis of the category. It's crazy /terrifying / completely facinating / and dumbfounding all at once
The most amazing thing of this case is that her capacity to lie and deceive also applies to the jury! Incredible. One thing is to deceive your parents, another is to deceive the entire legal system! And imagine how powerful she feels now!!!
it took forever to watch this one since this is one of the worst cases i have seen someone get away with their crime. What she did was horrible and the fact that she covered it up and seemed to not care was awful. idk how she avoided serious jail time. biggest miscarriage of justice. Makes me sick
This is insane to me it's so clear that she is guilty but yet isn't even charged with child neglect or anything when she waited so much time before she even said her child was missing. Even then her mother was the one that called not her.
can’t help but tear up when hearing her father talk to her… That sad excuse for a mother/woman is disgusting and does not deserve the loyalty and love of her parents
everything was proven already, this really upsets me. There was so much big clues especially the search history of Casey. I don't understand why they wont lock her up. She's been lying since highschool and dated many guys with wild outgoing (probably crazy) personality. They even found caylee's body with her nose and mouth covered in ducktape. HOW. just HOW did she die by drowning.
My jaw dropped when they called her dad a pedophile. This is the first documentary I’ve watched on this case. I’ve always known about it but it’s such a painful case to read into. I saw how loving and supportive her parents are and what a stab she took at her dad. How could she have gotten away with this. I hope so many people hate Casey that her life’s a living hell!!!
What's sad & scary among her killing a beautiful baby girl is all the damn evidence that they had on her yet a lawyer was able to walk in a courtroom an convince the jurors she was innocent. Smdh our justice system needs to be fixed in so many ways
The justice system in our country is seriously flawed to let a person like Casey Anthony be acquitted, this pathological liar. It breaks my heart to know this little angel Caylee is no longer with us.
everything was proven already, this really upsets me. There was so much big clues especially the search history of Casey. I don't understand why they wont lock her up. She's been lying since highschool and dated many guys with wild outgoing (probably crazy) personality. They even found caylee's body with her nose and mouth covered in ducktape. HOW. just HOW did she die by drowning.
Its also so sad to see her parents so divided in this. The mom knows she done it but still won't admit it but her father knows the truth that she done it. If it was the other way around it would seem like the father got her off because he's a cop but she tried to put it all on him. Shes a freaking coward. Poor little thing will never get justice 💔
And this just proves how emotional people can be. Placing feeling over fact when it was very blatantly proven that Casey Anthony was and is guilty. That poor little girl Caylee will never receive justice, due to her mothers amazing manipulation & conning skills. Sad to think she would’ve been just about my age by now, horrible how messed up our world is.
To me, Casey is a clear example of a pathological liar. When cornered about a lie, she tells another one to gain sympathy and spins another tale. To the point, often, where the person will begin to believe in their own mythologies. She did it when she flunked out of college, and I believe that’s what she was doing when her attorney claimed she was abused as a child. I don’t believe there was enough evidence to convict but it seems most like she did it. And in truth, Casey probably convinced herself of her own innocence.
If I was her father it’d be hard not wanting to strangle or hurt your own daughter to find out where an innocent child might be….,, Especially knowing that she’s probably involved in it.
I am pretty sure that her dad (the sheriff) got her out of this... she is absolutely guilty but it's not always about what you can prove, but who you know...
Prosecution could've easily proved to jury, that she is a sociopath and immediately should be put behind bars. Key questions Amount of lies she told to detectives. Why used duct tape, if she didn't killed? Why get tattoo, after her daughter death?
Why she mentioned, she has never been so happy in long time in her dairy?
Still can’t believe how a former cop with her daughter fooled again the whole community… same as with Graduation! Now she is feeling like Super Woman 🤟 as she said and she was right … but about prosecutors : WASTE
I know from Bailey sarian's version that the parents were told they'd only be allowed in court if they didn't show any emotion.... But the moment the rape allegations were made, the dad's face didn't twitch while Casey was there sobbing.... In that moment for a second I thought she was the victim
So MANY people like this who are obviously lying act passively in interviews: agreeing continually with the officer but outside? They are aggressive & argumentative. First she says the media is garbage. Then seconds later it’s I agree, they are so great & helpful with tips for my daughter. Where’s her confusion or anger? Her terror should be palpable.
Baez did a good job conflating “beyond a reasonable doubt” to “beyond any conceivable doubt”. The jury obviously thought the latter and when prosecutors didn’t have a video of the murder, they thought oh gee we have no idea - “not guilty”
No idea how this comment went unliked. You hit the nail on the head. As you said, it’s beyond reasonable doubt, not any conceivable doubt imagined and unimagined in the scope of the universe. With that line of thinking even a video of an actual crime could not be relied upon as evidence in a court considering how good technology is now. I have such issues with this jury. They failed that little girl. I cannot stand looking at Baez’s smug face any more than I can Casey’s.
That was the most irritating crime I’ve ever heard, like how in the fuck could you sit there and laugh knowing you murdered your child, and fact that she’s not guilty? Like who else could have killed the kid when she made up two fake ppl🤦🏻♀️
We should have been trying to figure out whether or not the murder was premeditated… not if she had done it. I think she was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.. what a circus 🎪
I mean we all know that she murdered her child and will go to hell…but can we take a minute and consider goddamn she had an excellent lawyer! Holy shit. That’s some insane manipulation of 12 ppl at once in a matter of idk how many minutes. Wow.
This case is just one example of wrong people on the wrong side. The State's side is just being too follow-the-rule and boring compared to the defendant's side. The defendant's side is so slick with social engineering it irritates me.
I’ve gone back to so many cases.. how they’ve failed the victim horribly, and I’m thinking to myself.. where have we gone wrong?? All of us. To allow the perpetrator go free??... I know it’s not all cases. But.. this one is beyond my understanding of how she got off. Her poor daughter died twice.
I'm just heartbroken that she's still out free and for example the Menendez Brothers are still in prison after doing so much time. This world is fucked.
god the way she talks about her mistakes " i was naive" " i thought i could handle it but obviously i couldn't". It sounds like how i email a teacher trying to let me make up a missing assignment.
I really don't know how a defence lawyer can defend this guilty piece of shit who clearly killed her child. Was her behaviour normal? No it wasn't, she don't give a damn about anyone but herself and I cannot believe how she was found not guilty...that poor child, may she rest in peace
If I remember this case correctly and you may in the course of this video to mention that as well, I think her dad it’s not both her parents were also involved in covering up what happened to this poor little girl
Wait wait wait... she is free? How can she be free after all the evidence we get to see here? I wasnt there but how? So that fucked up being got to lie about the most horrific thing a human can possibly do on national television and got away with it? She actually got away with it? This actually makes me sick...
So… according to the jury Casey didn’t murder her child (😒🙄), which means that there would be someone out there who did murder her child and is walking free, or she really did “drown in the pool,” which was covered up and would be obstruction of justice……
Similar thing happened with someone i know. The mother doesn't want to do anything for her kids hates them and hate the idea that her life changed and she has responsibilities. But because their father still alive and involved he took him away to live with his parents. And she abandoned them completely even though one day one of the kids got hurt and broke his finger. She was careless didn't even want to look at him when the father asked her to come together in the hospital yet she came for paper work. The same mother showed aggressive violent to her 2 kids because she need to sleep sit watch tv go to the mall party but they are in the way of her happiness. In her sick mind her kids are objects like belongings and she has the right and the choice to do whatever she wants with them because they mDe her suffer enough when they came out of her. I didn't know about Kaylee's mother till yesterday and it's disturbing that she didn't get death sentence for that. Also the investigation was not strong enough and that's sad
The way she’s breathing says it all she breath harder when the lady said they found the baby girl with duct tape in mouth and ears she was freaking out inside
Grandmother: OH MY GOD MY GRANDDAUGHTER HAS BEEN MISSING FOR A MONTH AND I JUST FOUND OUT PLEASE HELP 😭 Dispatch: can I speak to her mother? Casey: Hello? 🙄
I go home later than curfew and I get called by my full name by my parents. This girl probably killed her daughter and lied to the police and still gets called sweetheart and gorgeous!!!??? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE AMERICAN PARENTS????
Btw I’m halfway thru the vid. Now watching Casey have a phone call with her parents from jail.
The real brilliance with this was the defence. The Prosecution were prepared for an entirely different kind of trial, based off the lies she had been saying, and all the evidence she collected. Then the defence comes out and pins it on the dad and sexual assault. It was a baseless accusation that you can't disprove. And since there was no 100% evidence proving/showing her kill the kid, you cannot prove the dad didn't do it.
The prosecution just were not ready for such a case in the slightest. Planting that seed of doubt in their minds, and then elaborating on that in the closing statement was just masterful by the defence attorney. It's a real shame that the prosecution threw the case. Having been to court myself for things, it is pretty common to see prosecutors get walked over by the defence.
To clarify, I think its pretty obvious she killed the kid herself, and is a sociopath.
how is the car smelling like a body and her search history not evidence of her killing the kid? or AT THE VERY LEAST playing a part in it, that still confuses me, and the things written in the diary, i think she just got insanely lucky with the defense making up bullshit about someone else being a rapist which leads to the events, (like they always do)
However, a case must not be decided because you feel sorry for someone or angry at someone, because they are not the source for evidence despite of it being a fact. The scenario here was a Harsh Reality that the "LAW IS BLIND".
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leen remi2022-03-07 22:55:01 (edited 2022-03-07 22:59:00 )
She's so full of crap oh my god! Whether she killed her or not...whether the people who spoke their mind against her are considered "to not have a damn clue about the case" ..it still doesn't make any commen sense that she did not call for help when her daughter "went missing" she got a frickin' tattoo about how beautiful life is when her daughter was "kidnapped", she wrote in her journal she was the happiest when her daughter is "missing"...said it was the right decision to make...lied to the detectives who just wanted to help her out...how the hell did she get away with all of this by "no proof"!!! This is so messed up! We don't need proof at this point we have our common sense! And to say her father molested her out of the blue like that .. don't know if it's true but for sure it wasn't relevant..
Her actions throughout the entire video are awful, but she was the most hate able for me when she used her phone call. Everyone is telling you how worried they are re and how sad they are and all you can do is bitch and moan about them actually having emotion.
This is what you get when you are basing an evidence off of materialistic paradigm.. scientific evidence trumps logical deduction. We can deduce without a doubt that she is the killer..but scientific evidence can't do much to prove that she was guilty.
@Lucy lu rude, selfish and arrogant isn't evil.... lack of empathy for other people especially your own daughter is evil, and lack of empathy is a mental illness/handicap
THANK YOU. ithis whole thing insults everyone else who struggles with mental illness! even an atheist will concede that evil exists, "evil" as a system of beliefs and actions and choices that are so wrong they can never ever be right.
@R SC not a consequence. it's disturbing to *us* but not to that person. she functions in society. can't even call it narcissistic personality disorder because she doesn't aspire to grandeur.
This is the ONLY JCS video that I have never finished. I’ve even seen all the deleted and unlisted ones. But I get too fucking angry and I have to stop this one before it ends, every single time.
PETITION TO RE OPEN THIS CASE!! Jeff doesn't even have a child...how did they not find her guilty ?! She said that's where she dropped her off for MONTHS but he doesn't even have a child (I fact checked...he wasn't lying) what the hell...nevermind all the other lies and OBVIOUS guilt..nevermind Juliette not even existing. HOW I actually want to know HOW did she get off ?!
Just shocked with final results... Poor child... But we need to admit that investigation done was poor. Anyway, this is only a partial winner... If guilty, final judgement is coming....
not to be "that" person but I hate how she conveniently put the blame on a non-existent POC because that just makes it so believable right? Imagine putting a (non-influential) POC on that stand, would they have gotten the same amount of sympathy in their verdict?
@Rum Ham or the prosecutors and DAs who want to win the cases to pad their wallets so they make a matter of justice a game for their money. Or the judges who impose ridiculous sentences on minor crimes.
But there's also the cops who bury their noses in their work and bring to light monsters; prosecutors and DAs who fight for people who need a lawyer to help them fight for justice; and judges who fairly mete out appropriate and sensible rulings. Despite what many people say, they are out there.
Support the ones who do good work, and decry the ones who abuse their position.
I'm not american, but I thought the judge still can judge on his/her own like he doesn't need to follow the jury? We don't have jury system here in my country sorry if im wrong
“This case has been put to my attention of a missing child for 31 days. Not my child, yours. That’s a cause for amber alert and investigation. First tip off is you lying, a pathological liar.”
Knowing media was involved. Evil me: Would of left free of charge. [though speculation.] this would’ve sped the trial at the end still comes to emotion and little on the evidence.
Im confused tho was she legit kidnapped? Why was her skelton remains found with duct tape around her mouth and nose and now apparently she drowned inna pool? AND why tf is caseys dad not in jail HES SITTIN RIGHT THERE and he was a cop idk this case is insane
Just a fact after this trial that completely makes me mad: - Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez sued Casey for defamation. Zenaida has told reporters that she lost her job, was evicted from her house, and received death threats against herself and her children as a result of Anthony's lies. - In September 2015, a judge ruled in favor of Anthony, stating: "There is nothing in the statement…to support (Fernandez-Gonzalez's) allegations that (Anthony) intended to portray (the nanny) as a child kidnapper and potentially a child killer.
How would this be possible? That poor woman lost her job, was evicted, and the lies that Anthony told were the cause. Anthony was definitely at fault and should have been held responsible by the Court. What the hell is wrong with the people in Florida?
I'm confused now, because @15:18 JCS says "Zenaida doesn't exist. Casey never had a babysitter." Does this mean that Casey Anthony made up a name, and it just so happened to be the name of a real person?
Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez also used to work as a hotel cleaning lady and stole a guest's credit card while he was receiving cancer treatment at the hospital
@OnlyFactsPlease Id have to guess that she was "a" Zenaida, not "the" Zenaida. When the story of Bill Clinton having an affair with Monica Lewinsky broke, many Monica Lewinskys were questioned about their involvement with the president even though they had never even met the president. I remember one Monica Lewinsky going on late night TV being very confused as to why people were asking about "her and Bill".
The United States criminal justice system is good....in concept. Unfortunately, it's a complete charade in reality. There is nothing fair about it. There is nothing just about it. There is nothing right about it. In fact, there are thousands, and thousands, and thousands of things wrong with it. But there is so much money to be made in the system that there is zero chance it will ever be fixed. Absolutely zero.
@spontaneousdentalhydroplosion why don't you try. It's not hard for me to explain white privilege. Shouldn't be hard for you to explain why you think it's not real
They gave that finding in court on th e basis Casey made up Zenaida's full specific name as a coincidence and that it was not defamatory. She didn't simply make up that name any more than she made up "Juliet Lewis" w Universal (the actor). Casey is not that creative, or smart. She saw Zenaida's name somewhere and being disturbing and stupid and racist she banked on the police believing her - a white woman over a Hispanic/"Dominican" quote "mixed" woman with negative stereotypes including coveting/kidnapping and sex traffic of pretty white female children.
@OnlyFactsPlease That's the assumption that was made; that Casey made up the name and it coincidentally belongs to someone but Casey was adamant about Zenaida's name, becoming upset and repeatedly telling her family to make sure they were researching it properly and the spelling -- it was part of her plan to throw Zenaida under the bus. A local news outlet reported that they found Zenaida under the same name and spelling with the hyphenation as Casey stipulated. They interviewed Zenaida and yes, she was harrassed by Casey's supporters and probably Casey herself.
OnlyFactsPlease She exists but Casey did not know her at all. I think she somehow saw that name somewhere and it stuck with her. I think she just plugged it in to the rest of her extensive lies. But, again, Casey did not know the real Zenaida.
@Hasidic Kaiju thank you man but you definitely need to educate yourself on Twitter in an echo chamber for a while before you aren't "ignorant" anymore.
@Matt Phillips isn't that the problem with almost all institutions in America? That everything, the media, the prison system, the Healthcare system and therefore also laws are only aimed at making Profit?
@Nestor Martinez people like you grant white privilege way more power than it deserves. Mexican name, must be about racism. If she had won, anyone with her name could then also sue for damages, real or not. Casey didn't technically slander this women , just happened to completely destroy her life and that of her children. Horrendously unfair? A flawed justice system? Absolutely. Does white privilege exist? Surely. Do people like you make the problem worse by attributing power to it when the only 'evidence' is a name? Yes.
Unless it was obvious racism in court, in which case my bad. And even then it would have been enabled by the law. Just crying wolf every single time you encounter interracial injustice worsens everything and detracts from evident problems. Like the fact anyone can walk away from that unpunished.
@Nestor Martinez I know right!! And that judge with his black privilege getting him that sweet job,and all them black NBA and NFL players and all them black track and field athletes and all them black hip-hop stars. Was it Latino privilege got her lawyer his job? No it was hard work. Hard work wins every time.You should look in the mirror because racists come in all colours.
@SouthernTruth Chick Then you missed my point entirely. Just about everyone is privileged in one way or more depending on the situation. Saying white privilege doesn't exist is willful ignorance. White privelege, black privelege, young privelege, male or female privelege, monetary privelege, etc. It all exists whether you choose to see it or ignore it.
People don't realise or tend to care about how corrupt and fucked the justice system is or police are, until they come up against it. That poor woman. Casey, and her kind, just win in our current society. Psychopaths and evil behavior are the measure of success nowadays virtually.
@Hasidic Kaiju Ending your inflammatory respone with "my point proven" doesn't prove your point, nor does it make me want to go out of my way to provide you with the very accessible evidence of the things you're asking me to show you. Also you missed like half of the entire point I was trying to make. Something tells me you need to get out more and focus on more pleasant things than reactionary rhetoric.
@Shiiva Inu you never made a point. you just generalize entire populations based on skin color and/or sex. which is incredibly racist but the irony is lost on you bc you're so "woke." just for once, think for yourself, stop parroting stuff you're told to get an emotional rise out of you. and look at people as people... instead of their skin color. sheesh
@enemy In what way was I generalizing? Saying that privelege is circumstantial? That it varies depending on the situation and person? In what world is that not looking at each individual?
But Anthony didn't intend to portray Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez as guilty, it was just a lie she pulled out of her ass to protect herself. She never even had a babysitter, let alone by that name. The fact that there just so happens to be a person by the same name affected by Anthony's lies is regrettable and awful, but not intentional, so she sadly doesn't have a case.
Can't believe people have made this racist bloody hell a poor little girl murdered yes I am 99.9 percent sure she did it but proof is needed and they had none surely there should be DNA in the car any CCTV footage? Lots of questions
@Hasidic Kaiju No such thing as white privilege because OJ Simpson? That case happened over 20 years ago and we're supposed to remember it eternally as THE symbol of unfair black advantage over victimized whites. George Floyd and Breanna Taylor were murdered a few MONTHS ago and we're already supposed to dismiss them as excuses for "bad behavior." That's what white privilege is, in a nutshell.
@Shiiva Inu you immediately see skin color and make sweeping generalizations. Literally the textbook definition of racism... how are you oblivious to that?
WOW... when her friend is breaking down bc she doesn’t want Caylee to be hurt and Casey literally just says “Wow talking to y’all was a waste”... this lady sucks so hard
I don't remember the case well. I'm a bit younger than casey so I wasn't paying attention to the case when it was happening...I'm wondering why behavioral experts weren't more involved. I understand that not everyone behaves the same ways....but most mothers have universal characteristics. She was behaving in such an unusual way, I know two psychologists said she was "normal" but I can't see her constantly lying as normal.
Mel G I totally agree! I was definitely a child when this case was going on, but I also find it strange that two psychologists said that she was characteristically normal considering how little emotion she had when it came to her daughter being in danger. Just the fact that it took her an entire month to report it, and only at the insistence of her mother, shows a very callous and uncharacteristically cold demeanor towards her child. It’s absolutely mind boggling.
I just got at this part and came down to the comments to see if anyone else mentioned it. My jaw absolutely dropped and I had to pause because I could not comprehend what the hell it was I just heard. She SCREAMS "I am guilty" and it is so, so sad that her friend gave more of a shit for her kid's life than she ever did. As the saying goes, every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child. Disgusting.
It's because she thought her friend was low key accusing her of doing it. Re-watch their phone conversation you can see why she ends up saying that, with that context in mind. Edit: Just realized this sounded like I'm defending her... Casey Anthony is EVIL. I have no idea how she sleeps at night.
@TC Talk definitely. People aren't considering the context. Her friend doesn't know what happened. Fact. Casey does. Fact. Her friend asks emphatically bordering on hysterics and Casey nonchalantly tells them that they are wasting HER time.
@Corvidae Stating reality isn't sexist and you make a fool of yourself if you think it is, sexist would be implying someone does an activity better due to his/her sex for example.
@HAASSSSS! And so is saying that only caring about one self is "typical women behaviour"...just as many men only cares about themselves, it's not a question of gender.
@Corvidae I don't know, you tell me, you are the one in denial, I do make assumptions, but they are right most of the time and that's more than enough for me, so yes, I will still make assumptions everyday about everyone around me base on the worlds's and a myself's empirical evidence.
Its pretty clear to me that you just want to live in the current status quo instead of accepting reality as it is and leave a like in my comment like the other people that haven't said a word, they like me agrees with what I have mentioned and don't try to counterargument in order to feel better about their own reality.
Brian Kelly until you’re a woman who’s pregnant you’ll never understand the complexity of pregnancy and bringing a child into this world. Men shouldn’t speak on Women’s agendas. Go troll someone else 💀
As someone who has been pregnant and just gave birth (naturally, no pain meds) less than six weeks ago, I agree. Buckle down and take responsibility for the life you create, even if that means finding another family for said life. Life is life, murder is murder. I was a rape baby, born into a poor and I am glad I was given a chance. My mom ultimately chose life, even though she was told to abort, and she thought about it (she had just given birth to my older brother - we're only one year apart). She says all the time that we're the reason she got out of the abusive relationship with my father, and why she was able to do better for herself.
But people instead choose to see children as nothing more than burdens. It's sad.
Dj d don’t “sweetheart” me I’m not your friend. You’re right abortion isn’t a heartless act it’s indeed traumatic but it should still be an option for women to take. As a PREGNANT woman rn I can attest to the fact that pregnancy and the cost of a child are NOT easy at all but a woman shouldn’t have to go through with a pregnancy if she doesn’t see herself fit to. I personally chose not to abort my baby because I knew I could manage parenthood but some people just CANNOT afford that luxury. Don’t preach about condoms and birth control because mistakes happen OFTEN and no every woman wants to go thru a pregnancy just to give their child up for adoption. Abortion is a woman’s right. Again, don’t speak on women’s agendas until you yourself are In our shoes. 🙂
Dj d I asked you not to use terms of endearment because we aren’t friends. You don’t respect simple requests lol. Your sagas of comments keep getting deleted by YouTube because you can’t follow rules and abide by community guidelines and request lol. We’re done talking Dj 😂💀
@Dj d Technically, men should have the same right to terminate their financial and legal responsibilities for an unwanted child before it's birth. I mean, if we're being completely legalistic.
As much as I empathise with her, Casey's Mother is a total enabler. Calling her "Sweetheart" Still as if she's some sort of innocent little angel, when she knows full well, her gut instinct is screaming out "YOUR DAUGHTER HAS KILLED YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER!".
@DownFromTheREEEfters Totally agree. Children who learn there are no consequences for their actions grow up with a sense of invulnerability and a wildly chaotic moral compass.
in fear, and in denial. i don't think i'd call her an enabler, just a mother who cannot comprehend what a cruel human her daughter is edit: to elaborate, her mother does have some fault. her parenting played some role in casey taking what she wants when she wants it, but i don't have it in me to call her a bad person for it
Right? There would be NO small talk. It should have been "where is the baby? Your not gonna say? Well sit in here and ROT. Don't call us till your going to be honest".
There are parents with children who have tried to kill them, and they’ll still love their children and will visit them in prison. Apparently it’s a common thing amongst parents to still love their children even after they do something horrendous.
I agree with u. I think her mom and dad enabled her but when she was in jail and they were talking to her I think she was just trying to get her to admit what happened to her daughter
Cindy has said in interviews since the trial that she was just trying to make Casey think that she was on her side to get information out of her. We all know that her relationship with Casey was poor prior to all of this, so it's not like that behavior was common between them; it was all a show to get the truth out of her.
The disconnect for me is in the years after the trial, Cindy went from believing that Casey did it to trying to create a relationship with her again. I think reality sunk in that Caylee is gone and that Casey is the closest thing she'll have to her granddaughter again. I don't know why she would want Casey back in her life knowing that she killed Caylee and lied about her own husband molesting her as a child but then again I don't know her mental state.
I think the mother knew all along that she did it. Sympathising is a great tool in breaking someone to tell the truth. It is just creating a comfortable environment for the girl to open up.
My mum would disown me for lying about my job, never mind killing a child. Some of these kids who grow up with no consequences to their actions are dangerous people. They aren't living on the real world at all.
Aye. The parents were a push over to her. That phone call to her family was absolutely vile. You could see who wore the pants in the house. They weren't telling her what she wanted to hear / know so her true colours came out in the wash. Total narcissist. Creates the mess for herself and then blames everybody else.
All of you should read the prosector’s book on casey- ‘imperfect justice’ BOTH her parents were enablers, her dad being more so. Her mom would TRY to put the hammer down on casey but always wimped out last second and enabled her. Hm. Seriously read the book, go to your local goodwill to buy it $2. Just look up what the book looks like then look for it on the shelves, pretty easy to spot
You will hear that very often, that the parents, whether their child is innocent or not, will always support them, no matter what. That is what parents are for. Watch ''The Curious Case of Dalia Dippolito'', this story is pretty much that story, but with the woman saying ''I didn't do anything'' instead of actually coming up with perfect stories for lies.
The mother and the father have to ask them self, if they are involved in the death of that baby-girl. But at First its the daughter that done it. But in percent i would say 20 : 80%.
Usually in these situations detectives carefully prepare parents for every interaction with their accused children, they are taught what to say, they are given scripts, trained on tonality, given key words to pronounce, discussed strategy and other things. You can hear a big difference every time a parent talks from when another relative or friend talks, big difference between what they say and how they say it.
True, but as a parent it's hard to accept that, no one wants to believe their child is capable of such evil. Everyones child is special to them..well for the most part(excluding casey) you know the mother still loves her daughter but at the same time yea it's hard to accept and she knows the bitter truth Its easier for us to pass judgment But imagine if this was your child or close family member in this situation. That's when things get rough emotionally.
Still, shame on Casey for what she did and her smug smile and putting her loved ones through this.
John C what a crass remark. I’d be happy for you to show me the evidence for that claim. I have two boys, both in their 20’s, one of whom just got a First at University. Neither was ever ‘disciplined’ and each was brought up to recognise their place in the world and responsibility to themselves and others.
YourPalHDee Exactly, I have 2 cousins that are horrible people because their parents have excused and enabled their bad behavior since childhood. Now they’re in their 40’s and they are such liars about everything.
@Michael James Wow. I've never really thought about it but your right. Everyone is always telling me how nice and polite my daughter is and I always agree with them but at home, she is so nasty to me but would NEVER do that in front of anyone else. Until she got a serious boyfriend and started to treat him the same way. What you said is so true. I can't believe I've never thought about it before
@Michael James that's SO true. My girlfriend treats her mother so beautifully whereas my ex HATED her mother and it explains so much about who they are as people.
@starjumper you too? My sister does have kids, but isn't nearly as calm and collected as Casey. My sister would be freaking out and screaming, wondering how dare anybody would accuse her of lying or hurting her own daughter.
Audrey Hilton Oh my sister would get like that once she was drunk or on drugs which was most nights. It’s resulted in her getting arrested at one point for assaulting me when I just turned 17 (nothing happened, she just got worse, I’m 18 now). She also bit my moms finger which resulted in an injury that needed stitches. There’s tons of other stuff she’s done as well, but won’t get into too many details. Somehow my grandparents just won’t kick her out. When she’s sober (which is hardly) or only high on weed, she is horribly narcissistic and very manipulative towards my grandparents. She will also still pick fights and only does things that benefit her.
abc C She wasn’t found innocent. She was found not guilty. That’s how the legal system operates. Just because there wasn’t enough evidence to convict her that doesn’t mean there is such a thing as an innocent ruling. Personally I think she’s guilty. But the state did not meet its burden of proof.
Gabriel Garza that’s not true at all. After giving birth and nurturing a Child for a number of years and then you yourself forcibly murdering her is not the same as a procedure done by a doctor before the child ever breathes air outside the womb. I believe your comment and opinion is due to your religious beliefs.
Gabriel Garza hey kid, nobody is saying unborn children are like the tooth fairy. We understand they exist. But there is 100,000% a difference between a sociopathic murderer and a person who believes they are making the right decision in a very tough spot. People like you can only have compassion when it’s convenient, and refuse to acknowledge the terrible, critically difficult choice it is to have an abortion
@Gabriel Garza Drug addictions, and thought addictions are closely related on a neurological level. Some people are more beholden to the ancient part of the brain (Meso Limbic System/emotional) rather than someone that reasons using the modern part (Frontal Cortex/rational).
"The second system, known as the mesolimbic system, has its cell bodies in the ventral tegmental area, which is medial to the substantia nigra. It projects to several parts of the limbic system, including the nucleus accumbens and ventral portions of the striatum, amygdala, and hippocampus, as well as prefrontal cortex. This system has been linked to reward-related behavior (Berridge and Kringelbach, 2015). Dopamine levels in the nucleus accumbens increase in response to both natural reinforcers (such as food, drink, and sex) and drugs of abuse (such as amphetamine and cocaine). Additionally, in humans, activity in this region increases in response to more abstract rewards, such as money."
Marie T. Banich/Rebecca J. Compton, Cognitive Neuroscience, Section: Subsystems, pp. 2/3
"Dopamine, in fact, is critical in association learning and the reward system of the brain that Skinner discovered through his process of operant conditioning, whereby any behavior that is reinforced tends to be repeated. A reinforcement is, by definition, something that is rewarding to the organism; that is to say, it makes the brain direct the body to repeat the behavior in order to get another positive reward. ...The connection between dopamine and belief was established by experiments conducted by Peter Brugger and his colleague Christine Mohr at the University of Bristol in England. Exploring the neurochemistry of superstition, magical thinking, and belief in the paranormal, Brugger and Mohr found that people with high levels of dopamine are more likely to find significance in coincidences and pick out meaning and patterns where there are none."
Michael Shermer, The Believing Brain, Section: 6 The Believing Neuron pp. 8-10/29
"Genetic and behavioral factors influencing religiously motivated behavior appear related to dopamine metabolism and signaling. Inclination toward religious behavior and motivation has been associated with a polymorphism on the dopamine receptor gene DRD4 (Comings, Gonzales, Saucier, Johnson, & MacMurray, 2000;Sasaki et al., 2013). Acquired disorders of dopamine physiology also show links to religious behaviors."
"Religious and spiritual experiences activate the brain reward circuits in much the same way as love, sex, gambling, drugs and music, report researchers at the University of Utah School of Medicine."
"Dopamine, adrenaline, and noradrenaline are neurotransmitters that belong to the catecholamine family. Dopamine is produced in the substantia nigra and ventral tegmental regions of the brain, and dopamine alterations are related to schizophrenia (1, 2). ...The “original dopamine hypothesis” states that hyperactive dopamine transmission results in schizophrenic symptoms."
"Dopamine In schizophrenia (SCZ), there is evidence that very high levels of dopamine in the limbic system play a major role in emergence of hallucinations and delusions. Antipsychotic medications, which block central dopamine activity, alleviate the hallucinations of psychosis. Drugs with strong dopaminergic effect, such as L-dopa, methylphenidate, bromocriptine, pramipexole and piribedil, may induce hallucinations. D-amphetamine, a direct dopamine agonist, may also induce psychosis and hallucinations."
"Here, we show that administration of a drug that enhances dopaminergic function (dihydroxy-L-phenylalanine; L-DOPA) increases an optimism bias. This effect is due to L-DOPA impairing the ability to update belief in response to undesirable information about the future."
"Tibetan mystics have long practiced a method to create sentient beings (Tulpas) from the power of concentrated thought."
Note: These (Tulpas) are not sentient beings, but a manifestation of the subconscious mind through neural plasticity via neurochemical imbalancing inducing meditation. In other words it's having a dream state while awake, and interacting with a character that's made up of one's own preformed thoughts (building blocks of ideas/concepts that are below conscious awareness) which gives the illusion of sentience. In simpler words it's self induced schizophrenia due to stresses (psychological/physical/environmental) where neurochemical traffic gets rerouted causing hallucinations to any of the five senses, also including involuntary movement, and distorted speech (glossolalia).
Imagine the euphoria experienced by the average person for believing they won a million dollars on a scratch off ticket (it could be a joke ticket yet as long as they believe). Now imagine someone having the same sensations, but being convinced it's a paranormal contact for believing John 3:16.
We evolved to seek pleasure (eating/reproduction), and avoid getting killed (tiger in the grass/competing neighbor/harsh enviroment). With our increased cognitive abilities we made up other reasons for pleasure, and survival beyond basic necessity. The Dopamine Reward System over time bridges gaps in pathways in order to form habits in order to repeat behaviors, and or thoughts. The often cited testimony of getting off an addiction thanks to a God is just a placebo replacement due to the power of the mind (an AA participant I heard of chose to worship the radiator in his room instead of an higher power, and became sober).
Ancient people did not know the neurosciences. Philo of Alexandria thought that joy came from Heaven by way of God's chief archangel the "Divine Word/Right Reason (Logos)".
ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book 2
"XXXVII ...And who can pour over the happy soul which proffers its own reason as the most sacred cup, the holy goblets of true joy, except the cup-bearer of God, the master of the feast, the Word ?"
ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION, III
"LX ... the soul very often, when it is delighted, is yet unable to explain what it is that has delighted it; but it is taught by the hierophant and prophet Moses, who tells it, “This is the bread, the food which God has given for the Soul, (Exo. 16:15)” explaining that God has brought it, his own Word and his own Reason; for this bread which he has given us to eat is this Word of his ."
The High Priest's headdress had a crown made of a plant known for it's hallucinogenic properties at which a golden plate covered the forehead. On said golden plate was inscribed sacred characters for the name of God.
Josephus: THE ANTIQUITIES OF THE JEWS, BOOK 3, CHAPTER 7 (172-178), CONCERNING THE GARMENTS ...OF THE HIGH PRIEST
"6. The high priest's mitre was the same that we described before, and was wrought like that of all the other priests; above which there was another, with swathes of blue embroidered, and round it was a golden crown polished, of three rows, one above another; out of which arose a cup of gold, which resembled the herb which we call Saccharus: but those Greeks that are skilful in botany call it Hyoscyamus. ...Now the fruit is preserved by this coat of the calyx, which fruit is like the seed of the herb Sideritis: it sends out a flower that may seem to resemble that of poppy. Of this was a crown made, as far as from the hinder part of the head to each of the temples; but this Ephielis, for so this calyx may be called, did not cover the forehead, but it was covered with a golden plate, which had inscribed upon it the name of God in sacred characters. And such were the ornaments of the high priest."
Hyoscyamus Niger
" ...was historically used..., as well as for its psychoactive properties in "magic brews". These psychoactive properties include visual hallucinations and a sensation of flight. ...The plant, recorded as Herba Apollinaris, was used to yield oracles by the priestesses of Apollo. "
Scripture is designed to keep people in the thought addiction, and shut out from the group those that question.
"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction." (Prov. 1:7)
"In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." "but when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed." (2 Cor. 4:4, 3:16)
"As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom." (Quran 2.006-.007)
"Fools say in their hearts, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is no one who does good." (Psa. 14:1)
"but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Dopamine Ghost can never have forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin" (Mark 3:29)
@Gabriel Garza There is a difference between an embryo, a fetus, and a birthed baby. You cannot compare a life that includes physiological independence, consciousness, and emotional bonds to other lives to a unbreathing, unthinking, unfeeling, physiologically codependent mass of cells that has barely any brain signal, if at all. Abortion comes in different forms, including a pill taken before 10 weeks after conception. Please do more research into fetal development, biology, the physical complications of pregnancy/birth, the financial burden of pregnancy and parenthood, the emotional and mental trauma of pregnancy/birth/adoption.... Please have more empathy for women and do not compare taking an abortion pill to a sociopath taking a conscious, feeling, loved and wanted life.
@onmy computer2020gal Are you talking about this lady Macey who killed her unwanted child? Once you start killing out of convenience it becomes hard to draw the line. What is off limits becomes a controversy no one can agree on." Is it ok after so many months?,,, Post-partum, After a few days,, or weeks and months??? China maakes dishes out of babies. Thats where your logic leads to.
What I got from these comments is that as long as person cant think, feel or breathe (people in coma, disabled people etc), they dont count as a human and can be killed. Because they are inconvinience. Bcoz of bad financial situation. Bcoz mom wants to keep partying. How is that different than Casie? Or you people seriously think that there are no psychopathic women who use abortion as contraception? I know a girl who had 4 abortions (each time the dad was different) and she couldnt care less about it. She LAUGHED while talking how they crashed the head of this innocent creature. Just a clump of cells...lets see when scientists find "clump of cells" on another planets and call it LIFE. The hypocricy. And what about the prejudice that ONLY religious people dont support abortion? In what kind of bubble you live in? I know so many people like myself who are not a part of any religion. And as a matter of a fact, science also agreed that life begins at conception, when a sperm fertilizes the egg. So if a person is in coma and you know he will wake up in 9 months or less, you have a right to kill him just bcoz he is not thinking or feeling now? And even though I am not religious, I am very introspective and I always found the story about Barnabus and Jesus so interesting as archetypes of the world we live in. One was a murderer and they released him from jail, the other was a healer and they convicted him. Perfect reflection of society and of this case where a sociopath Casie walked away free. Unfortunately, humans are broken and most of them have no moral compass.
@The Angry Italian Scotty Piffin1 Right.. cause hell isn't a imaginary place.. she got off with any punishment what so ever.. i'm so glad i'm not an American, on so many levels..
What people don't get is the prosecution failed to fully prove their case. The justice system acted the way it should. They couldn't prove Beyond a reasonable doubt that she was the one that killed Caylee and that she orchestrated everything. Plus with that scumbag Baez muddling the waters, it was a nightmare from the beginning. I believe in karma.
@The Angry Italian Scotty Piffin1 well, hell isn't real so...instead of saying she will get what she deserves, stop using the paranormal to solve what is wrong with society and get out and protest it. She will only get what she deserves if we stand up against the unjustified
@Erykah F she is a complete smoke show, you're kidding yourself to think she isn't because you know she's a terrible person. She lied and manipulated her way through life using her looks.
@Donna Kawana that's not really a thing for men. As a man I like sex and engaging in a relationship with a woman I can't have sex with doesn't appeal to me...or other men for that matter.
Now women on the other hand, they love to write to prisoners. They get the thrill of engaging with a dangerous man, and the ego boost to think they are so special they can change a violent criminal. It's the Beauty and the Beast archetypal story.
SuicideVan she’s not though. She looks sick and sleep deprived and like she’s never seen the sun. Hot would be like... eh... Jennifer Lopez or something.
@pinkpugginz yes it is. In fact by nearly every metric available from lifetime earnings average to education and professional achievement physically attractive men and women outperform their less attractive counterparts at a more consistent basis than by other factors like race, gender, sexuality, etc.
@Important man Commenting She's just a great manipulator and could lie her way out of most situations. I don't think being white had a lot to do with it. That would only make a difference if the baby was of a different race. Being a female also not sure. 1 most cases of infanticide are done by women, specifically mothers. 2 men do it in a different way and for different reasons. If the father had done it, it would most likely involve a violent death followed by possible dismemberment to hide the body. Men are also more likely to brag about getting away with murder.
@Donna Kawana nah, it's not really a thing. Of course in all of the world there's going to be a few, but it's not really a thing in the way it is of women writting to prisoners.
@Susan Pinney yeah read the comments...this is my reply. But its a fact. If u find u have different facts. It's probably because u never been in court or county jail, or prison. If u have then u kno how it goes. If not take a seat... Because the only reason her case was even on the news is the look an family dynamic. Pretty white family dark unthinkable tragedy...! Do u think justice is just...?
@Raphael C please do me a favor look up missing children at same time see what u find...what families get TV time an help. Do u really think no lil black, or Hispanic kids went missing an unfound at same time..look it up!! I am just saying not factual... her dad was a retired cop bet that didn't matter either?
@Donna Kawana We are talking about different things. I'm not putting in question the systemic racism in the American judicial system or in the media, but in this case in particular I don't think she got away because of "white female privilege."
Sounds like my in laws with their baby golden boy. His mind games, abuse, lies. They're all my fault, of course. Never build up a man and try to be his rock that he needs. Just worry about yourself.
I'm from Sweden and I never heard about this case until now. It's unbelievable how she's not found guilty, it shocked me. This has to be one of the biggest failures. I bet her lawyers stocks went up after this.
Dane Shannon2020-08-03 06:37:56 (edited 2020-08-03 06:38:43 )
@Nick3an Everyone is allowed the right to an attorney, and if the attorney does a shitty job it can be counted as a "mistrial" where they do whole other trial. On top of that, if he purposefully failed her, he could have his license suspended. He had to do his job, and unfortunately, he was just a damn good lawyer.
Idk if its even her upbringing. I think she's a textbook example of sociopath. She doesn't FEEL, she doesn't have emotions like most all people. Around the 48 mark he talks about how shes fake around EVERYONE, even family and friends. She's learned how people act and she simply reenacts those emotions like a robot. that is what sociopaths do.
@Jennifer S. Honestly I think it’s that and her upbringing. JCS made it clear that her parents are enablers. She’s probably never gotten help for her sociopathic behavior which is probably why she felt she could get away with anything just by lying her way through it.
@Jennifer S. It's probably both. Her parents are enablers who just let her get away with anything and everything. Once someone who's a sociopath learns they can walk all over their parents, there's almost nothing that can be done to help them by that point.
So her continuously lying to the police was nothing. They knew she lied, why lie if you did nothing wrong 😒. If the kid died naturally or by drowning why not report it. LIKE WTF!!!!!!!! I'm utterly disgusted and disturbed.
Being an attorney, having to defend such a person by any means without being prejudiced and emotionally invested, is both amazing and disturbing. But in this case, I'm definitely more disturbed.
i’ve seen it explained as they have to put forward the best defence possible so that the defendant, if/when they are charged guilty, cannot claim there was a mistrial
@Cyanide_Lollipop Without defense lawyers the justice system would be even more broken than it is now. It's the job of the defense to challenge all evidence and force the prosecution to prove guilt beyond all doubt. It makes me sick Casey got away with this just as much as anyone, but don't get twisted, defense lawyers are for the greater good.
@Need More Input Exactly. If we only defended people we thought were innocent then almost any plaintiff would be at a significant advantage and win. It's a damned if you do damned if you don't kind of job.
@Cyanide_Lollipop I study Jurisprudence. There are laws you are smacked in the face right away. The most important one -. A lawyer may not be identified with his client. Like here already someone said - his task is to challenge all evidence and force the prosecution to prove guilt beyond all doubt. The man is in the right place. It's disgusting she got off, but he destroyed The State.
@Cinty Wee It's pretty cool that I learned something today from you and other commenters. It all makes sense now that I understand, so thanks. :) I still really wish she'd lost. She's a raging dumpster fire.
My cousins a public defender in Maryland and my aunts an appellate lawyer in Chicago and I couldn’t be more proud of them doing the best they can for govt pay instead of making good money privately because they truly work their cases as hard as they can. It’s for the greater good....even tho Casey should rot in prison.
Apparently a private investigator who was hired by Baez to find Caylee's body before the police, as Baez knew she was murdered by Anthony and had to cover tracks, had told police that Anthony gave Baez "sexual favours" as she couldn't afford the fees.
The fact that her parents keep calling her "sweetie", "gorgeous" and tell her that they love her after she literally laughs when she sees them is so upsetting. No wonder she could keep lying to them all these years and get away with it.
Exactly. Ultimately parents raise and affect their child's qualities and attitudes. Other external influences ovbiously have an effect, but especially in youth parents have a huge impact. It's not their fault, unless they're born with some biological predisposition. She is a symptom of how she was nurtured, and unfortunately Caylee was a victim of it.
Something as small as letting children get away with deviant actions can make them self obsessed compulsive liars in the future, so they get away with even more deviant actions to the point where it's criminal. Because they have the confidence for it from prior experience.
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Charlie Bags2020-09-08 18:33:10 (edited 2020-09-08 22:26:36 )
You cant blame the parents for what she did, wtf is wrong with you. She's obviously a sociopath!
@Charlie Bags They threw her a fake graduation party when she dropped out of school, lying and deception are obviously ok with this family. You think that has nothing to do with her decision making?
Parents have done much worse, and still they do not become murderers. Yes they may have contributed but overall they should not be blamed.. should every parent be blamed for they're kids actions. I don't think so
@Charlie Bags Reality and reason doesn't seem like something you are very familiar with, you could learn a lot from this video. It isn't as cut and dry as you would like it to be, and that's the reality of this terrible situation and is probably partly why the jury came to the decision they did. I don't think any of us are blaming the parents for what she did, you are creating a "strawman" and so be it.
@Charlie Bags She has zero respect to her parents who kept being nice to her all the years instead of putting her in her place. They even rewarded her with a party for lying to them and not graduating. I'm not blaming them directly for the killing of the daughter but they are part of the bigger picture for sure.
I don’t know if you noticed but they were doing that to build trust in that moment, hence why the parents keep asking her about her daughter. If she felt like her parents were on her side it would of been easier for her to admit something
Her parents were nice - but if you look at the skills she has, she is using something you are not taught or grown into. She is an INTJ or INTP and figured out reflection. If you look and listen she just reflects back the emotions of the person talking to her.
How can a person get upset with themselves, they can't and it's like chasing your own tail. You have to talk only about actions with such people if you try engage in communication you're just talking to the mirror.
Notice Calls from Jail - Angry/Emotion - she has Angry/Emotion Gets to jail call - Parents smiling laughing / she is smiling and laughing She gets to interrogation - She is just repeating "yes I also agree with X". "Yes X is very something". "Oh yes I know".
She's read one of the communication books or is the type of person who could have wrote one without reading them.
True, that’s what happen when parents do not punish their children when needed. They, sadly, grow up into adults lacking the sense of responsibility and authority because they got away with everything every time. When they do good things, please praise and gratify them but when they do something wrong they need to know there are consequences and they need to take the responsibility of it. After the phone call and the video, I could feel how entitled she thinks she is. It’s very sad. Weirdly, Casey’s behavior reminded me of Amber Heard’s 😱
At the end of day, That’s thier daughter. Regardless of what she did (not saying it’s okay or excusable) that is a mother,and father and thier baby. Whether you like it or not not all parents have the guts to abandon they’re kids, just cause of what they did. To you she’s a cold blooded killer, to the media she’s a cold blooded killer but to her parents that’s her daughter. And I’m sure The parents are feeling very guilty because they know they have a huge role in why their daughters the way that she is too. Please don’t misunderstand me I’m not saying what she did was OK, I’m not supporting what she did, I’m not defending her in anyway shape or form. I just think that people are seeing this from such a broad point of view and not an open one, be mad at Casey.. be mad at the woman who killed her daughter but don’t be mad at the parents Who are just being parents
@Benjamin Suntrup And its not the grandparents fault its the great-grandparents fault for raising the grandparents etc etc??
It is caseys fault, for not taking responsibility to be a good person and parent no matter what. Her parents aren't innocent, but they aren't to blame either.
I think they were trying to coax information out of her. Being insanely nice to someone suspected of committing a crime to gain information from them is an interrogation tactic used in the highest of levels of criminal justice. I’m sure they were briefed before talking to her, although we all know that during the case people began to suspect the grandparents. I’m unsure of how I feel. I think they’d protect their kid even if it meant she killed their grand baby. I don’t think they had anything to do with the direct death of Caylee but wanted to protect their daughter. It’s a normal parental instinct although I’d be so disgusted I think I’d do anything to help them convict her, but I’m also not a mother.
@Ryan R That's what sociopaths do in order to seem 'normal'. It has nothing to do with Myers-Briggs.
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nihil puer2020-09-10 13:11:06 (edited 2020-09-10 13:13:01 )
@Paige Casey Anthony's ruling as not guilty for any charge related to the death of her daughter brought no disagreement from her family. This shows they never wanted her to be held accountable; they continued to ignorantly shy away from the possibility of their daughter being responsible and accepted the falsehood that the broken jury provided. The parents felt little guilt. I do not think they are any better than their child. Just equally disturbing in a different manner.
@Charlie Bags human psychology and how they act is complex. You cant just judge things based on a fragment of it. The development of one's psychology is a mix of everything in one's life.
Here, the parents affect the pathological liar trait. The biggest problem that drags the whole problem is that said trait. If only her parents didnt spoil her daughter, this case wouldnt be dragged on or even better didnt happen.
I bet you have those mindset where one simply cant blame their parents just because they are a parents. Any people who tried their best can fail. And a failure is a failure. A mistake is a mistake. Nothing can justify it. But you can fix it with the follow up, which is not the case on this tragedy.
@Charlie Bags also, there is a study that proves disfunctional socio/psychopath is related to their nurture. Even on youtube, these are easily found. I think there was even a Tedtalk where the professor is a psychopath, which he realized it far later in the future. He doesnt know about morals (bad or good), but he does know how to be functional and how to maintain a harmony.
My point is, the underlying issue can be reduced to minimum effect with proper nurture.
Her best friend Christina loved Caylee more than Casey did. That’s devastating. Caylee was failed not only by Casey but by the justice system. This case boils my blood like no other. It’s heartbreaking.
Dude I know! I honestly hate watching anything about this case because it gets me so angry. I like to remind myself that she'll get justice eventually because there is a God
I agree. She was a total lying, manipulating, entitled, self-centered woman who killed her own child because she didn’t want the responsibility of being a mother.
The ease with which the web of lies tripped off her tongue, is so disgusting. As if you'd be likely to know the name of a daycare nanny's step father in passing. She's truly heinous. How many times does she say "honestly" as a preface to barefaced cold lies.
@The Absolute Madman how could her dad ever look at her again, knowing that she's not only a cold-blooded child killer, but she accused him of sexual abuse, which I don't believe for a second happened. Those grandparents would have taken custody of that beautiful little girl even knowing that their daughter is a spoilt, selfish narcissist, she could have done a bunk to have her fun, and left Caylee with them and I bet they'd have never reported her to the authorities. But no, she decided murder was best to dispose of her little baby girl. I'm normally not big on retribution but this woman deserves a painful life and a horrible lonely death. She's evil incarnate.
@EweChoober I honestly think the lawyer would have told the parents this was the only route that could save their daughter's life. The dad didn't even flinch when the lawyer told the jury. They covered Casey's butt all of her life (the fake graduation for example) so I guess they would have done anything to save her.
@Conor M you're right, the mother is clearly delusional. The dad was a homicide detective though, he smelt death in the car, he knows she's guilty as sin, but sadly he was willing to protect her, even if branding himself a child molester. They enabled her and fed her delusions to some extent, they're paying the price now.
@Conor M I'd imagine they still live in Florida but keep a low profile, the last interview I saw of them did not paint them in a very positive light, for supporting her.
They ignored the fact that the car smelled of dead body by her mother's and father's own account, or that her friend in the jail call directly suspected something fishy and asked "where is caylee, caysee?", or the constant lies. at least she should be convicted for lying to police in an ongoing investigation, or child neglect because her mom had to report the missing child after 31 days while caysee was partying. USA Justice system is so flawed, omg.
Yeah, she should have gotten charged with something and at least 25 years in jail. Especially for leaving caylee at a swamp to decompose and not letting anyone know about it. She really proved how stupid those people are and she took advantage of it.
ikr! here's a quote from abc article posted in 2011: "Forensic evidence in Anthony's car will be pivotal in the murder trial, experts have said. The car tested positive for chloroform and human decomposition and a strand of Caylee's hair was found in the car's trunk." How do you let her go after finding that?
This literally makes me so mad that she got away with it. They just disregarded every piece of overwhelming evidence they had. Her daughter's remains were found with duct tape over her mouth and nose and her car smelled like death and they are just going say "eh, she's innocent"........ What in the actual hell?? She clearly was murdered and they just dismiss the case. Unbelievable. I hope she rots in jail someday..
Totally agree and that's what baffles me. The body was found with duct tape over her - a clear case of suffocation and yet the defence attorney said she drowned in a pool? What in the ever loving fuck is in these juror's heads?
And they completely disregarded her internet searches before the death of the daughter. Like how does that flip over anyone’s head? It’s clear that she killed her. Did they check the kid’s lungs to see if she drowned? There would have a been signs of drowning in an autopsy. I wonder how that even came forth as a credible defense.
Maybe the problem for the prosecutor was that they found her body in a swamp, so I think (I may well be mistaken here) duct tape or not, it would be hard to prove any water in her lungs were definitely not from the pool? And with her pool story, she could also claim she or her father moved the body to the swamp in a panic, using the car, trying to make it look as though she had been taken. It doesn't cover it in this video, but apparently she alleged that her father found Casey in the pool and hatched the plan himself in order to protect Caylee from child neglect. The Google searches however.... Wtf?? 🤦♀️
@Christopher Wilkins There is no such judgement. If God exists he wouldnt allow that heinous murder in the first place.
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A Single Clap2021-01-08 07:44:41 (edited 2021-01-08 07:46:46 )
The difference between you and I is that my anger was figurative.
Don't ask me what that means, per se, because I don't know. I'm just making a dumb joke while simultaneously calling you out for using literally in a very annoying way.
(I am now going to go into more detail about this for no good reason) I'm not against using it for emphasis, as a sort of metaphor, but you really were mad, so just say you were made. Literally is used as an enhancer when what you're saying isn't actually literal, such as saying you were literally blown away by a performance of some kind. I dunno why I'm writing this, it's 12:00 am, and honestly, I think I'm just in the mood to write about something, no matter what it is, I really don't mean to be some annoying grammar cop*.
Courts don't judge people to be innocent. Ever. The verdicts are either "Guilty" or "Not Guilty". The latter pretty much only means "guilt cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt". I'm pretty sure each of the jurors personally believed she was more likely than not guilty, but simply weren't entirely convinced. The defense made good use of that.
It surprised me that the details about her search history weren't mentioned in the trial. I looked it up and apparently this was recovered like 4 years later (investigators only checked internet exporer, she used firefox - seems like a huge failure on their part) so it had no bearing on the trial.
@Viys when did Sven suggest that they think they’re smarter than ‘everyone else’ or you even? They could then say the same for you. You’re both just having a disagreement on a matter. That claim sure came out of nowhere.
I’m sure she did it but realistically the prosecution didn’t have evidence directly linking her to the killing that was the problem they needed that confession
@Sven S. God allows those things but that doesn’t mean God approves of killing someone who is innocent and that killing is good. God even gives a commandment “THOU SHALT NOT KILL”
@Bisdak Pinoy If god allows these things that means one of three things: 1) He doesn't care to stop them (in which case he isn't all-loving) 2) He doesn't have the power to stop them (in which case he isn't omnipotent) 3) He doesn't exist Personally I believe the third. What mental gymnastic do you use to believe in god and not believe either the 1st or 2nd proposition?
During the initial 911 call Casey said to the emergency operator that she in fact “spoke to Caylee today “ and that all was alright. Nobody ever talks of that statement.
@Franz Pattison Its true. Instead of focusing on the objective, you start talking about something totally different. He is right, you are one example why Casey was set free.
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Franz Pattison2020-12-09 21:01:17 (edited 2020-12-09 21:01:34 )
@vIPR well with fantastic leaps of causal "logic" like that I think you're the reason why Hitler rose to power
@Miley Molly idk if that part was taken into consideration by the jury. If her lawyer didn’t have any proof it should not be taken into consideration at all. Whole story sounds made up
@Jay I think it depends what kind of protection u use I’m not sure abt the numbers, but in school we are taught that the only birth control that’s 100% affective is abstinence
@Jay a lot of pregnancies aren’t planned. You shouldn’t have to dedicate your life to a kid just because you got pregnant. It’s fine if you want raise the kid, but it’s also fine if you don’t.
Why are you so sure about this... I am assuming there was an actual confession of the mother that the court and jury saw. Don't know why this was not shown in this video, but could be because it looks genuine and very different to the way she looks when she was lying. Evidence is not presented in this video, don't know why. **All i am saying, without following or hearing about this case at all, and solely from this video and the evidence (or lack of) shown in it, I had my doubts about her being a murderer. Reasonable doubt. You get 2 stories, partly or mostly fabricated on both sides to make a case...and when there isn't enough evidence out there, the advantage is with the defence obviously. this is why a good, thorough and clean police investigation is so important. But yes, most likely she did it
@Sherry Delavergneyou can do whatever you want with your body and so can others
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Soon Mee Kim2021-02-10 05:22:54 (edited 2021-02-10 05:24:19 )
Why do most of these comments have nothing to do with the original comment? To respond to the original comment, I can’t believe it either. As a parent I couldn’t follow this case when it happened because it was so horrifying. I’m a parent of one, I know I can’t handle more than one physically due to chronic pain, so I got an IUD 2 months after I had a c-section. If I got my pain under control, I’d like to adopt rather than get pregnant because so many children need loving homes not just foster care. *we all have different views on abortion, abstinence, etc, but please let us all agree what this monster did was horrific and stop attacking each other.
@DW4DE i know you don't understand and it's propably hard to comprehend for you, but not everybody is religious. if this is your choice, it's fine. But stop forcing your religion on other people, this is beyond being arrogant. Why do people have to accept the religions of others but religious people think they don't have to accept that some people don't believe in god?
@Ron Rontall until a certain week these cells don't look like people. As well, this doesn't mean shit. an embryo doesn't feel anything until about the 26th week of pregnancy since they literally didn't develop a functioning nervous system before. the vast majority of abortions happens WAAAAY before that. This is the only thing that matters at all. It's not like women do that for fun, ya know?
@Jay ah yes, because everyone who gets pregnant always chose to, there are absolutely no exceptions, and there's no possible way someone could want to get pregnant and then decide that they don't actually want to give birth, not at all
@Whitney Fry that's a shitty comparison and doesn't make sense. unborn embryos are a collection of cells until many weeks into pregnancy. They don't feel or think, they don't have a consciousness
I can't believe people are here spouting off about abortion, just fucking stop. This video is about the murder of a child. One that was living, and actually felt joy, sadness, and betrayal. This isn't about a fucking agenda, this is about a heartbreaking murder.
I think that people that don’t use prevention shouldn’t be allowed abortions (apart from cases such as young age or rape), and that those who actively used birth control should be allowed abortions.
Shes cried tears of joy bc she didnt get convicted and is free... I doubt the thought of her daughter was really ever in her mind. If she killed her, Caylee was just an after thought. Makes it all the more disgusting
@Whitney Fry wow that is super dumb. Bacteria is a complete, independent life form. Just because it is a singe cell it doesn’t make it comparable to a complex, many-called biological entity. It is a single-celled organism. We are not. A foetus is not a complete or viable being. A single bacterium is. I typed that really slowly for you.
@Sherry Delavergne not at all the same thing. If you think murdering a living breathing out of womb child who's been living on their own for a year is the same as an unborn unable to live alone without help as the same thing then you have something seriously wrong with you.
@Soon Mee Kim I didn't have kids due to a painful condition. I'm glad you had one but I totally understand not wanting to get pregnant again. I hope you find relief
@Sherry Delavergne How absolutely vile and disgusting. Comparing aborting an embryo that doesn't think or even feel pain with a psychopath who killed 3-year-old? Really? That doesn't make any sense.
@Soon Mee Kim thank you. This is such a tragedy in itself and all everybody else can do is SQUIRREL and bring up a bunch of incendiary but irrelevant stuff just to get into a pissing contest online. This story is sad but the obnoxiousness is much sadder.
@Sherry Delavergne this all happened because she wanted an abortion but her parents wouldn't let her. This is what happens when you force women to carry and bring up children they don't want.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
@rainierday ALL TRUE. Plus the only reason a mother would want to abort is OBVIOUSLY because they are not capable to taking care of them, and it will stop things like this case from happening to innocent children.
jvsv, Yes that is correct however those who choose death for their unborn offspring they need to finance the abortion. We who have a conscious choose not to be a contributor to the slaughter of a baby. 👼
Becca, It’s not a useless comment. Just because you and many others have a guilty conscious for the slaughter of your own offspring 👼 doesn’t make the fact useless. 🤔
Wtf 🤬 she was clearly the murder of her child and just walked away! So sad as actually inocente people get arrested and guilty people walk free! Just hope she has nightmares every night and will get what she deserves one day! Sad 😢
Wow, the amount of psycopaths there are in this replay sections is incredible. The stupid arguments in favor of abortion are so incredibly moronic:
"The fetus is not a human being, it is a clump of cells" First of all, every human being is a clump of cells. Second, don't try to hide behind science when you don't know anything about it. Modern science concluded that when a sperm and an egg unite (syngamy) the nuclei of both are fused, forming a new human being with its own DNA, different from its parents, which begins its natural development. If anyone here rejects our scientific knowledge, it is you.
"The woman should have the right to decide about her own body" Of course! The problem is that the unborn child is not part of the mother's body for a number of reasons that medical science has already revealed: 1 - The unborn child already has a unique and unrepeatable DNA. 2 - The unborn child has a different heart rate from her mother. 3 - He or she may even have a blood factor of their own. 4 - He or she generates his own organs such as the placenta, which is not believed anymore to be generated by the maternal body.
"The arguments against abortion are religious" It is Modern Science that has allowed us to understand that what the woman is gestating is in fact a human being, not religion. Of course, the ideal thing for abortionists would be to discuss these issues with a priest, not a biologist. Today, modern science is the one that turns its back on abortion.
"We're not all religious, so don't make us do something we don't believe in." Which is a fallacy, considering that due to the existence of something called "Public Health", religious people are forced to financially participate in abortion. Who is it then who forces whom?
"If a woman is forced to bear an unwanted child, she will end up torturing him and possibly killing him." I'll let you yourselves realize the stupidity of that comment.
"You don't care about the mother or the baby after it is born" Fake. Those of us who are against abortion ask for public policies that: 1 - Dismantle clandestine clinics. 2 - Create decent conditions for women so that abortion is not even considered as an option. 3 - Support Motherhood and Fatherhood. 4 - Reduce family violence. 5 - That they provide prenatal care. 6 - That they develop better conditions regarding adoption. Among other possible policies to support women. For example we have Chile. A country that, without legalizing abortion, substantially reduced maternal mortality. In 2008, it became the second country in the Americas with the lowest maternal mortality rate, even higher than that of the United States. While in Uruguay, maternal mortality has increased since the legalization of abortion.
Oh, true. I remind you women, once conception occurs, you are already Mothers. With abortion, the only thing you are deciding is whether to be the mother of a living child or to be the mother of a dead child.
@H.P. Hatecraft it's still a living being organism. Maybe you aren't causing any pain to it. But denying its chance to be born and live a life is vicious. I agree in certain situations or instances like if someone is r*ped, he/she/they/them shall be allowed to conduct abortion. But it's stupid to do it cause you were careless or drink, or suddenly changed your mind.
I feel sorry for those who have abortions. 9 times out of 10, they are repressing or otherwise struggling to process the trauma, which is compounded by the cultural acceptance of the practice — as though it were just "some clump of cells." Even if you aren't religious, surely one can recognize that abortion is contrary to our deepest biological impulses: to reproduce. I'm not here to pass judgment on those who have undergone it (though it sounds like it lol); there are cases both moral and medical where it can appear to be the right choice. But if you're conflicted about your past or present decisions, I would ask that you try to sit with and understand the source of that inner conflict. Whether right or wrong, whether God or no, abortion is no light matter.
@Sherry Delavergne that's an entirely different situation, a fetus that can't feel pain or comprehend that it exists, and hasn't taken a breath, c a n 't even take a breath is entirely different than a 3 year old child.
@Jay the chances are low, but it's literally never impossible, and even if you didn't adequately use protection that doesn't mean you should be forced to have a baby. Also abstinence isn't even a choice.
@Riggy like oj Simpson? I seem to remember crowds of blacks cheering in the streets when he got away with murdering 2 people...and there was more evidence in that case
@Ron Rontall go look at the actual science, if you guys care about something like that, then you would care MORE about bugs, they literally are more conscious, and they can actually feel pain.
@Whitney Fry then how come you aren’t fighting for the millions of bugs that are killed per day, according to your logic. If a heartbeat determines life, then you would care about that. Also, unlike the clump of cells, the bugs can feel pressure....
@Riggy Its not cause of racism albeit the trend does exist. Its cause the Judge and Prosecutor sees white women from a perspective of "What if this was my daughter?" Can happen with minorities and men too if there is the same race Judge and/or opposite sex Judge, albeit far less likely. Men tend to get the rough end of the stick either way.
@Ron Rontall Do you remember what being a fetus was like? Can you explain how important those times were for you? No? Exactly, because a fetus is not sentient enough to comprehend where it is/what it is. Most times, abortions would save babies from the pain they would suffer in life. Don’t act like living on Earth is the best thing ever, shit things happen to good people all the time.
Y’all these replies are very foolish. We’re discussing the death of a child and now y’all are talking about whether or not it’s ok to abort one. Stop this petty arguing, it’s been going on for three months. Act like adults, accept each other’s opinions, and mourn for the actual dead child instead of messing with each other.
@Sherry Delavergne getting a clump of cells vacuumed out of you is not the same as murdering a 3 year old child. In fact, if she had an abortion there would be no murder.
@H.P. Hatecraft Conception is the beginning of human development, not birth. Therefore, a zygote is human life just like a 3 year old child is human life. So, the difference between a zygote and a 3 year old child is age, not kind.
Ask yourself, at what point does human life begin?
You seem to argue a child in the womb is "numb" and therefore not human life yet. What is it then, just cells? Precisely when in their development do humans go from "a clump of numb cells" to human life?
I'm not arguing the morality or immorality of abortion. I'm saying abortion ends the life of a human being. That's why it is such a polarized and emotionally charged subject.
If you can't even acknowledge that a baby in the womb is a human life, "just shut up forever on this topic, thank you".
@Nihal Chowdhury you seem too invested on a embryo instead of being worried about the full fledge adult human that carries it. Something bad bad is going in your head.
@HeadshotTatertot93 Yeah. Some people are still in the time of their life where they’re learning that sex isn’t a necessity. Some people just don’t care.
@Jay yes, start with protection. Women can only give birth every 9 months, meanwhile men can get women pregnant every single day. Start with the problem and have all men get a vasectomy. It's completely reversible and safe
@Piterixos when an abortion is performed they have to account for every body part because it can be disastrous if some part is left inside of a woman. So yeah...babies don't look like sludge even in the earliest stages.
@Belle Époque Beautifully said. It's insane when people call a fetus a 'bundle of cells' that is so fucking callous and creates one hell of a slippery slope.
@Leader of Communist China dexter irl, where are you? i still cannot believe what i watched, wtf? this person is actually living on earth, walking free 13 years after the killing of her own daughter
@Dave Smith Bro. Did you read up on her recently too? I’m surprised they are even taking her accusations seriously. Considering she’s a pathological liar.
Kostas Rubtsov What he tried to say is this i think. Who follows this case have encountered in many documentaries that Casey was working at universal. It was never clear what she worked there. But somehow most of us assumed that she was working in a better position at universal. Now the info is out she was just handing out the pictures after the hulk ride. And that is somehow perplexing. Hence his surprise i think.
@covorca"THATS what made the most impact on you?" Actually, it's a noteworthy moment The fact that she needlessly lies about the most insignificant details, even when she has to know the cops will catch the lie. Total fake.
@Lawrence She probably told everybody that lie to make her job seem more important. Her mom was in the room with her at the time so she probably wanted to keep that lie going, and I don't think anyone would have anticipated the police following up on their job title when it isn't related to the case.
Then again I'm trying to get into somebody else's head and the odds that I'm wrong are very high.
i don’t think she murdered her . i think she was negligent. she probably was all wrapped up in tom or whatever and found her dead , I mean look at her parents . she had multiple people who would take cayley
Honestly I think the parents conversation is as bizarre as Casey's. "Hello gorgeous"??? How about ...tell me where the hell my grand daughter is!? They are a bunch of odd people but she got away with killing that baby.
@Frogstarr I cannot imagine how that man felt when those words were said out loud. I honestly do not think he ever molested her. Clearly the Dad knew what Biaz was going to say as he did not react at all. That is also craxy. Even if he knew what is going to be said and even if he is a twisted bastard and did those things hearing those words out loud would have made most men react. I don't think there is one piece of this case that is not stomach turning. IF it's true Casey wanted to abort the baby and her family forced her to have Caylee...the guilt they must have! Something else I always thought was very odd is Caylee is a mix of Casey and Lee which is her brothers name. I was almost certain they were going to find her brother was the father. But apparently that remains a mystery as you cannot trust anything she says. She is the perfect example if "if her lips are moving she is lying". My ex husband was a full blown narcissist and once his facade started to crack I realized how he lied about EVERY. THING. Big things and tiny things that truly made no difference. It was just nonstop lying just for the sake of lying. If he told me the sky was blue I would have to check it. That is how she is and it just fascinated me and still does. What makes someone do that? It's wild
Dan Everton That was a disgusting lie to get her off! There was no proof whatsoever about that. Jose Baez was grasping at straws. He’s good at what he does but he’s a snake!
not only that, but the child died with duck tape and shit, like, what the fuck happened? I think this video should be a bit longer so that we could understand more about what made the jury find her not guilty
How can they argue she died in a pool or whatever a month early if 1) she did those searches; 2) after that she goes to party, gets a tattoo, etc... . Doesn't align.
Some incriminating evidence was withheld, due to various legal reasons, and there was a general minimum of hard viable evidence. Everything suggest she probably did do it, but the burden of proof needed is higher then "probably". The big problem in the US justice system is the opposite, poor/minorities being convicted over a massive lack of evidence and reasonable doubt.
@Viktor Yeah, the prosecution only looked at her searches on Internet Explorer but not at her other browser searches. Her searches for suffocation were found after the fact by independent researchers. Last Podcast on the Left has a very detailed series about this case. The jury is not so much at fault as the prosectution. The prosecution absolutely butchered this case and Casey Anthony's defense team was, while slimy as hell, genius.
@Danny - I can't blame the defense, THEY HAD NO IDEA they were going to say "my daddy raped me" because they had no evidence to present, So there was nothing to SHOW prosecution!
Prosecution had every reason to think it was open/shut AN easy case.
How could they have known Casey would accuse her own father of rape and murder?
@T T it's true that they had absolutely no way of preparing for something like that, but they didnt do their due diligence to actually prove their case fully. They thought it was such an obvious case that they didnt put in all the work. There was enough evidence, much of which was found independently after all this went down, to put her away even with all the crazy shit her defense pulled. I would highly recommend everybody look at/listen to some in depth analysis of the entire trial. They simply did not think ahead and did not cover their bases.
Xman C No system is perfect but yours sucks. Common law is the best for trade/commercial matters.
But when it comes to criminal justice it’s terrible. Why should people with no law education make the call ? This is why you set guilty people free and innocent people to jail so often.
Would you go to a doctor who didn’t study medicine? No. Then why would you want someone who didn’t do law do decide legal cases.
The duct tape was also put on her mouth a few times and I’m just wondering how poor Caylee had missing bones including her wrist,knee cap etc in a matter of months
@Low Bo Automatically if he said that it shows that how she was found was premeditated, which could of given her a harsher sentence I still say judge had a hard on for her and the defense failed BIG time they couldn’t establish enough physical evidence and other crap
@Pedro Rocha 1. anyone could have done those searches on her computer, 2. the timeline lines up perfectly with the girl's death in the pool. In fact, in FL accidental drowning in a family pool is the #1 cause of death of kids. I personally believe she accidentally drowned, her Granddad covered it up with his many years of exposure to crime scenes. I do not believe Casey had anything to do with that. The Grandma was left out of the death and coverup.
@Xman C the idea that just because people who study the law are elites is dumb. Juries can be a way of getting the public’s opinion on a case but that is all it is. They have no prior training and do not fully comprehend how the law functions. In some countries, they act as an advisor to the judge but a few random people who most likely have no experience with the law should not have the power to dictate the verdict of a case. As shown in the video, people can be easily swayed by persuasive techniques and manipulation of thoughts and emotions. Maybe if juries only consisted of individuals who have atleast a minimum understanding in law or else it is just luck if the jury thinks whether a person is guilty or not.
@SLMZ Educated people can also be manipulated to do dumb and evil things.?depending on their ideology or ideological make up. Yes I agree that there r too many dumb people, but unfortunately most people dumb and smart can be easily persuaded to do evil things. The German people r very intelligent people, but in the last century they were persuaded to do some very evil things. I think the problem today with most systems is the moral breakdown of society. Btw just because u hv a degree doesn’t mk u smart. There’s lots of dumb educated people.
@YKhenessey A person cannot be tried twice for the same crime once they have been aquitted, even with new evidence. Also, new evidence wasn't found by law enforcement. It was found by independent investigators, meaning none of it is official evidence anyway.
@YKhenessey yeah, there are definitely major problems with it. It can be a good thing in some cases, but in cases like this it is definitely unfortunate. If you want to know more about it and why it's a thing, it's called Double Jeopardy.
"She was not an event coordinator. She stood in a kiosk, and sold photos to people who recently took The Incredible Hulk ride"......bro your tone on how you said that had me dying
@John Doe so having any kind of work makes a person a looser No wonder the world's so messed up with judgemental people like you bullying people over a job that earns money
@Mark Mitchell this woman killed her child and got away with it. People are upset, and will attack anything about her. Has nothing to do w her work, has to do with the monster who stood behind that kiosk.
i actually went to universal two years ago, we went on every ride really, we're canadian so we try to soak up as much america as we could. we actually went on that hulk ride after a small photoshoot with the hulk statue in front. we also picked up the photos.... so i guess I may have talked to her.
@Seth Rogen Well, if you grow up in an environment where it's ok to lie about anything and issues are solved by lying to others, you will become a pathological liar.
She clearly was a pathological liar BEFORE they ever threw her the faux graduation party.. Why do you think they needed to FAKE the graduation in the first place? Because she had originally been LYING about her attendance at school.. And I've met pathological liars who's parents didn't spoil them. I don't think its fair to pin this on the parents.. I mean obviously they hold a very small share of the blame because they did raise her... But anything beyond that is ridiculous imo.
@Sean Yager So, they have a pathological liar child and when she lies about her attendance, they decide to cover it all up for her because they already know she's a pathological liar. That sounds like very bad parenting to me. If you don't want your children to become or continue to be liars, don't lie for them, unless you think it's ok to do so.
@Sean Yager it's very simple in this specific situation. these are the facts. she lied to her parents about going to class, about finishing high school. she had no intention of ever telling them; the only way they found out was because the school finally decided to call them. and what did the parents do? they rewarded her lies with a graduation party. they thought they were protecting her and "saving face," but what they really did was positively reinforce bad behavior. i'm not necessarily condemning the parents as horrible monsters, but that's just bad parenting. because if you truly believe that that doesn't teach a developing mind that lies will more than likely get you rewards, then that's honestly insane to me. she was a liar before, and all this did was serve to reinforce that she could keep using lies to get her way.
@Sue D'Alessandro Those parents were to blame too for Caylee’s death-they never questioned Casey before the cops? Lol, my daughter has been missing for 31 days and the timer starts all over again because she talked to her for about “a moment “. She’s such a disgusting 🤮 person. I hope her karma comes to her soon.
Hmm.. I thought the part where they showed a big graphic crossing out NATURE and underlining NUTURE and then listing a bunch of relevant examples sort of touched on that idea. It's interesting to consider how significant a roll this dynamic played but somehow I don't think it's definitive...
There was definitely a dysfunctional dynamic in the home where the appearance of things was more important than the truth. The mom in particular seemed to be in denial. Casey was nine months pregnant (visibly so) and her parents were able to deny reality and believe/say she wasn't. Other people around were asking about her pregnancy and noticing it and she and her parents were in denial of the obvious reality. And even after her mom called 911 about Caylee and said there was the smell of a dead body in the car, she backed off and later said there wasn't and changed her story, staying in denial. Even after the trial when Casey's dad had eventually become convinced Casey was guilty, her mom denied it and refused to accept that her daughter was involved. (I saw an interview after the trial where there was great tension between the couple over it, and the dad wouldn't outright say the words but clearly thought Casey had killed Caylee but the mom was still saying some unknown nanny or other person must have done it.)
Even though, there were some odd dynamics in the home (particularly with Casey and her mom), it is still NOT the parents' fault. Casey was an adult and fully responsible for her actions. I will never understand why she did it...her parents were basically raising Caylee for her...she could have just run off and started a new life, pretending she never had a child if she wanted.
@Sarah Bon Yes he was. It's why he says when he opened up her trunk it smelled like death. Ask any cop, it's a smell like no other and one you don't forget.
SOMEHOW, she's free walking the streets. Yet there are people in jail for having a gram of thc
Edit. Never thought it would get this reaction. So the edit is, she's walking around with a new man, while there are people in jail for missing some child support, or in jail because liars like her put them there. She planned and murdered her child.
Yeah well when people get caught with a gram of thc the prosecution doesn't push to intent to distribute with is what they did in this case going for first degree murder, idk if It was bc the public outcry wanted it or whatever but they still shouldn't have, basically what I'm trying to say is that this case isn't the same as your example
The difficulty of that whole can of worms is that while a portion of people in jail are there because of a drug conviction, not all of them are there ONLY because of that. Sometimes prosecutors stick with a safer way to lock up people with much worse crimes by going with just the drug possession. Still an issue, but there’s more underlying things to consider.
@Cam I see what you are saying about the public pushing for stricter prosecution which thus fail to convince in court. 1st degree does seem right here to me but I can't say what the prosecution thought of the evidence and why it was decided. Also drug possession charges have such harsh penalties( legislated ) that everyone pleas down anyway, that's how the courts stay working at all.
I got caught with a gram of weed and the officer poured it out of the bag and stomped the shit out of it, I picked it up after he left, I was like, thank you officer for grinding my weed for me. True story!
@heitrusan I mean the way she tried to say her dad molested her and that's why she lied so much somehow meant she was innocent... that was some cold shit
A lot more people are going to smoke marijuana than kill one another, so the prison industrial complex, being profit driven, pushes lawmakers to keep their facilities stuffed with our citizens.
Do have the name of someone in jail for a gram? Ofcoarse not. Quit believing what the lib fake media says. And stop making things up. But otherwise, it absolutely makes no sense. How does a jury let her go free.
@jorge rodi You obviously don't know anything about the American Constitution or legal system. That you think the U.S. Department of Justice had anything to do with this is an indication of your absolute ignorance of this system, so thinking you know any of the facts of the case at any depth would be ridiculous. At least the jurors know something about what they were judging. You don't have a clue about anything you're commenting on.
@JASON VOORHEES the "war on drugs" cant exist without pot being a schedule 1 narcotic which of coarse to the feds pot will always be. The reason other drug use is like .00001% of the people. I think that anything that vice does is a criminal against the people and make anyone subject to the bullshit including incarceration. Lie # 2 "I'm here from the government, I'm here to help you".
@hiding in the comments A jury let her off. They decided there wasn't enough direct evidence. It's not the top dogs. She can't be retried for the same crime.
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@Kenzie Hansen we love are sociopaths,put them in high places. She'll probably be the next president or at least have her own talk show.
@Roche fort6 THC murders children? Alcohol and Tobacco kill millions of people a year, and who knows how many children. No one seems to have care that you can buy alcohol or Tobacco on every street corner. Check the statistics. The number of people that die from Alcohol and Tobacco is incredible. The main psychoactive component of cannabis is tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), and it is a much safer drug than either Tobacco or Alcohol. Literally millions die every year from Tobacco and Alcohol.
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+LeDeskripshun And yet possession of any amount of thc (Tetrahydrocannabinol) would and do lead to enormous unsolved low income hood violence. Rather have the dope bois in the pen then a little party girl.
+LeDeskripshun И все же владение любым количеством thc (тетрагидроканнабинола) приведет и действительно приведет к огромному нераскрытому насилию над низкими доходами. Лучше имейте наркотик в ручке, чем маленькую тусовщицу.
When cases wind up in nationwide news, or in this case even global media coverage. Those cases attract the really sly and skilled lawyers, and the legal outcomes are not seldom very strange indeed, usually we travel through the lands of surrealism. This is almost always how cases end, which receives this kind of coverage. And they never have any kind of actual justice coming out in the end. It becomes broken down into portions of political interest, legal technicalities and public interest. When you read the media coverage, they report the events and discoveries in such a way as to affect everyone; though spinning things through their usual sensationalist angles. The Media are not straight up lying, but they bring up commentaries followed by question marks leaving theories hanging in the air for people to mull over. It is a classic sly way of keeping the case relevant and sensationalist enough to sell their news. Their immoral job works it's own way of portraying the case completely out of proportion with reality. And this naturally also affect people in the case as well.
Just think of all the innocent people that have been sitting in prison with the actual killers on the streets just because they had a bad defense lawyer
The war on drugs is a colossal fucking failure but somehow this country parades it around as if it isn't, that's why instead of focusing on killers and murderers and rapists we focus on people smoking a fucking plant.
@Terra Rose I remember during the Kavanaugh debacle when Christine testified and it became clear how ridiculous she was and there was no evidence they'd ever been in the same room at the same time... Then CNN announced the new talking points. I didn't remember ever having heard anyone actually speak the word "temperament", but suddenly all the mindless drones I know and love had stopped talking about Christine and were now talking about how his "temperament" was unsuitable for the job. It was so eery and unnerving, like Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Doesnt surprise me, this world is a terrible, disgusting place to be and life is an affliction not a gift, people honestly only care about themselves and every day i live i become less and less convinced that there is any good in the world at all
David Parry That’s what I like to hear.! It’s just a shame not more priests, politicians and millionaire sex pests Don’t go missing. I have hope for the future tho.
It was too much work for police detectives to convict her ... sending black kids to prison for Weed, is much easier, and leaves plenty of time for eating donuts.
People get arrested for crimes. Yes, Einstein. That's how it works. They don't always get prosecuted because they may not be guilty. That's kind of how the court system works. It's easy to prove someone is carrying illegal drugs. Not so easy to prove culpability in a murder trial.
Wow talk about false equivalence. Why do people continue to try to plead the case that despite the fact that possession of marijuana was a crime at the time of possession, the law should simply have been set aside? It's just so much special interest bullshit, coming from pot smokers who think the law shouldn't have applied to those like themselves.
There's only one viable point of equivalence here. If a prosecutor failed to meet the burden of proof on the possession charge, then the defendant should have been released. It works. People without marijuana don't get convicted of possessing marijuana. Period - end of story.
Mob rule doesn't determine guilt. Media loudmouths that nearly got disbarred due to their misunderstandings of how the law works don't determine guilt. What "probably" or "possibly" happened don't determine guilt. Evidence determines guilt. They didn't present evidence that conclusively proved Casey murdered anyone. Not to the jury - and the jury's idea of that is what matters.
If this had happened to most in the mob? Or anything else in which a whole bunch of anecdotal shit got built into a story that was presented to a jury, and the mob decided that jury instructions shouldn't matter based on some popular idea of what should be done, there would be a problem. People need to stop trying to hustle others by claiming their anger is based on anything but the fact that this happened to someone else and it's simple to root for their failure whether they've been provably convicted or not. Whether there's a kid involved or not.
This is the only way to maintain the objectivity of the legal process and without that objectivity the masses would be even more fucked than we are right now.
Surely the evidence of her internet search history the day of her daughter's death along with the method of her death was damning enough? Was the jury really that easily swayed by her lawyers theatrics, ironicallly even better theatrics than what Casey herself could have conjured up?
@Justin yeah. The punishment for small amounts of weed more often are hugely influenced by how you respond to the cop. Ive never understood why people feel the need to get resentful before the conversation even starts. Folks will stack all the chips up against themselves, have the most shortsighted viewpoint towards the law; then get the book thrown at them and never consider a thing they could have done differently.
Marijuana stinks. In Miami I would be walking on the sidewalk and then suddenly a strong whiff of some drug which is probably that coming from some addict's backyard.
You’ve obviously never taken any sort of criminal justice course, or bothered to look into the process if you think that Casey Anthony’s case was not a top priority for the prosecutors. Literally one of the first things you’ll learn is that the top priority cases are high profile cases with a lot of attention.
Yeah drug dealers and users can get 20 years but chomo and even man slaughter gets less. Non-violent drug offenders need real rehab but i know that cant happen since more than 60 percent of prisons money will be lost.
i still question the polices efforts in finding actual evidence, because i surely would think that there is Casey’s fingerprints on the duct tape that was found on her daughters body.
Good thing Trump has been releasing those people lately with the second chance act. Biden fucking ruined those people with that bill, but thank god Trump is now doing something about it by allowing these men and women to walk free again.
Say what you want about Trump, but this was a great thing to have done.
@The Destroyer I think YOU need to go back to school. I believe Casey is guilty. I also believe OJ Simpson killed Nicole Simpson. After watching the entire OJ trial, I knew in my heart I could never convict him if I'd have been a juror on that case because THERE WAS INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE. Eventually karma caught up with ol' OJ. There simply WAS INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE AGAINST Casey Anthony to convict her. Karma will get her. Eventually.
@Cam when people get "caught" with anything the evidence is sufficient. If Casey Anthony had been "caught" taping up Carley's mouth or caught carrying the dead body to the car or caught with ANYTHING the evidence would have been sufficient for conviction. But she was NOT caught with anything. This is what's called "circumstantial evidence" which isn't necessarily the truth. That lawyer was also a sociopath and the two sociopaths did exactly what sociopaths do best. They pointed out again and again that nobody could prove her guilt. It was NOT proven.
@Mary Ray Based on what evidence to the charge of 1st degree murder? I REALLY hope I never have to serve on a jury with you AND God have mercy on anyone you may be sitting in judgement of in any jury duty YOU may serve.
@Cam yeah you're right it's far worse. She killed her daughter to live a life of partying and drinking. Did you not watch the video or something? Or are you Casey?
@Karlomat I go through about a gram of 93.87% THC every week, and I don't get "high", I just get the munchies. Everyone reacts differently. After the munchies are satiated, I usually feel like it's time for sleeping. Similar to the way I feel after eating a Thanksgiving dinner.
@Roche fort6 THC saves children's lives by preventing them from dying from seizure disorders, usually discovered only after the parents have exhausted all of their options through BIG pharma. It can also keep them breathing while suffering an asthma attack. THC, and CBD have so many medicinal uses, dispensaries are considered essential businesses.
Things being illegal is how the law makers get rich and how they get their friends rich.
Step 1. Make something (anything) illegal for 'reasons' Step 2. Import and distribute said product - tax free of course. Step 3. Prosecute and imprison users as slave labour (prisons are private businesses designed to make a PROFIT) Step 4. Repeat.
It is ENTIRELY unethical for a prison to make a profit. THIS is modern day slavery.
@yacheberry For the love of God. Imagine if the prosecution didn't screw up and charge her with fist degree murder when they didn't have enough evidence for that charge to stick. They could have charged her with second degree murder and/or a multitude of smaller charges ( eg. purposefully lying to detectives and obstructing the investigation) that would have stuck, but they didn't. What she did was heinous, and she should have been punished accordingly, but due to lack of concrete evidence, they should have charged her with appropriate charges to ensure she at least served time. The prosecution was completely incompetent. Let's make this all about race and "white privilege" though. That's much more trendy.
I'm a felon for life for selling a quarter ounce of weed to a narc when I was a 17 year old minor. They tried and charged and tried as an adult like I did something terrible.
KAOS NATION Conservatives always say it’s a media narrative. Nah bro, it’s a fucking fact. Thousands of black Americans are jailed without proper cause. If you don’t understand that you’re blind
Tbh its really dumb to have weed illegally when you can literally go get a card right now in most states. Also. Yeah. It sucks. But im willing to bet she will get whats coming to her🤐
@Karlomat Nah man.. Let's say some average high grade bud contains 20% THC, then you only need 5 grams to have 1 gram of THC on you (5g x 0.2 = 1g). That'll last me a week at most ;)
I smoked a marijuana cigarette one time while listening to Black Sabbath. The next day, the phone rang... A man on the other end asked if my clock was running. I said " yes " ... He replied " well you better go catch it "
Imagine thinking that some bad outcomes on a case like this could be considered as an excuse to free other criminals. Just imagine that reasoning on politicians.
How does this case turn into a discussion about sexism, white privilege and weed. Who hurt you America, you’re like the Skywalkers in Star Wars just one family, single handedly screwing the rest of the galaxy over, projecting ya crap on everyone else. You could all do with a smoke in my opinion might chill you all out and stop you murderising each other (and yes I’m aware murderising isn’t a real word, sounds cool to say though)
@wolfaesthetic how old are you? You do realize that you are enraged and arguing with me about something I didn’t have an opinion about? Go take your meds.
People who think that the politicians "care" about the war on drugs, should watch the last narco documentary on Amazon prime. Politicians are the lowest of the low creatures, and what happens in handmaid's tail about getting rid of them all stems from scandals like these.
We live in a world that promotes liars and puts the boot hardest on the lowest in the pecking order. If someone wrote a book about this dystopian world, people would say it'd be impossible to maintain
Nobody is in jail for more than a day or two for a gram of thc. Maybe if they were on parole for a serious charge and violated their parole with a gram of thc.
@ResidentMilf I'm pretty sure That the point that was trying to be made was that a gram of weed is not the same thing as 1 gm of THC. Anybody that has smoked wax knows the that to be the truth.
Ya like my husband whose currently in jail for a probation violation for not reporting to his probation officer, and he didn't kill anyone. It's Fucking Bullshit! April
She kills her daughter she in jail for 2 years because of the case and then got away with murder. So if I kill my Mother I could have the same trial like Casey's right. The Criminal Justice System is shit and that's why no one really respects the Law and Authority. No one cares who you kill they only care about the money.
This is how fucked up our "Justice" system is, as much as i hate to say it-- Murder cases like this cost the courts and state lots and lots of money, however drug cases MAKE the courts money- and TONS of it.... So yeahhhhhh the priorities here are VERY clear....
I was saying the same exact thing. This is what’s wrong with America. They attack people for having drugs on them, but give less time to rapists & murderers. It’s beyond messed up.
in your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
Thank god it’s legal in my country to where I can grow my own shit 😁. Even before legalization cops didn’t really give a fuck about weed out here because we are educated.
Blame the prosecution. They could not prove the charge they were going for beyond a reasonable doubt. If you look at the case and don't understand why she got off, then you need to look at it again. Because it's really easy to see. I would bet you my entire life's savings, my house, my car, my animals, hundreds of thousands of dollars there, that she killed her daughter. But I would not have voted guilty for first degree murder. They did not present a case that proved it. What people don't understand is that it's not guilty or innocent. Nobody voted her innocent. It's guilty or not guilty. That's it. All they have to do is create doubt that things did not go down as they said they did exactly and that's what they did. You cannot prove with the evidence that things went down in a way that would weren't first degree murder. If they had gone for a different charge, they would have gotten it
she literally said at 29:55 “i am really glad that Caylee had both of you” then she corrected her self saying “and still has both of you” wasn’t that enough to show that she was referring to a dead person by saying “had” ??
@M. Once I saw the 1ST visitation, I knew that Casey’s dad knew Casey murdered Caylee & that her mom at least thought Casey murdered Caylee. Mainly because of what you just described. I don’t care how Casey worded it because they knew they were being recorded. JCS has taught me that recording interrogations & visitations subconsciously makes suspects rehearse on the spot.
And then Casey's mother covers her moth with her hand- she heard it too... I'll bet a chill went down her spine in that moment- I bet she realized her granddaughter was dead and her daughter knew it.
@Finished!!!!!! All you have to do is replay the video which I did. She said “She’s had” listen. Listen. Subtle but difference from “She had” if you comprehend English. Smh
This was so clear what happened to baby -car smell lies party tattoos marijuana everything showed she was happy and glad of this decision-so what happened ? Not guilty ? Book and movie only show she still having fun -I don’t want to judge but I can’t stop thinking what is this show
I am still appalled that she was found not guilty on any counts. She was the last person with her daughter, lack of concerns, Google up how to suffocate someone, stench in her trunk, endless lies, “happiest I’ve ever been.” written in her journal while her daughter is missing, and still the juror found “lack of evidences” to convict her on ANYTHING?! Justice was not served and she got away with not taking responsibilities for her actions, just like she always has.
Well I mean, I see it to and going off emotions I'd convict her. But undeniable proof was scarce and the Jury decided to give 100% unbiased opinions, leading to not guilty
@Emir Minder Its not "my logic" - its how justice system should work -(innocent until proven guilty....) unless you can prove beyond reason of doubt, people are innocent. If there is no concrete evidence that ties perpetrator to crime scene - you cant prove he/she did it. Period.
Im not even going to address your imaginary frame up scenario, but... man it does seem tempting. As to rest - have you seen latest deep fake videos? Yeah, sadly its not ironclad evidence anymore.
@Emir Minder I am 1 million % on your side. This was a ridiculous outcome. There was so much proof against her. It makes no sense that she would have placed tape over her daughter's mouth if her daughter had drowned in the swimming pool; and at two years old how in the hell would she have even been able to get there on her own? You don't even need physical evidence, just common sense and logic for the entirety of this case to have had a guilty verdict on all accounts. But that is the system in the U.S. and Canada. The system is flawed, and as much as there are things in place for the innocent to not have a guilty verdict, it also allows the guilty to have an innocent verdict. Many people are on the streets who deserve to be the ones rotting in prison or elsewhere. It's extremely disgraceful and just overall so unbelievably sad. There IS ONLY proof against her.
@A Blood Red Pearl I mean their counter argument is completely thrash too. Even though Casey says otherwise the attorney said little girl died of suffocation in a pool. Even if that was the truth then she should be in asylum. Because her dauhgter got killed and then she partied every day got a tattoo saying life is good and then bury her own kid with tape on her face. Even all of the evidence against her was fake she should be locked up in an asylum at least.
@DAVID CHEN That way I could accuse you of murder without presenting any evidence, and you'd have to defend yourself. That makes no sense. It's been "innocent until proven guilty" for 2000 years in the Western world, because if you wanna put someone behind bars, you damn well gotta show some evidence that the person is guilty. If you have no evidence, the person is free to go.
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@Bartosz Baranowski Bruh, the defense's opening statement was that she had the body in her car and dumped it into the ditch. They just said she didn't kill her and that she died in the pool by accident. But thats fake news since the body was found with her mouth and nose duct tapped (why tf would you duct tape her after she already suffocated) and there was google searches on how to suffocate someone....
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@Darth Nixa 'It's been "innocent until proven guilty" for 2000 years in the Western world' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials Just one example of that claim being BS.... Nobility was a thing too, the plebs back then would never get a fair trial in front of noblemen... Try more like 200 years fam.
@Bartosz Baranowski If thats truly how the justice system works, then how did the Central Park Five case happen? You seem very eager to defend a justice system that has undeniably incarcerated and wronged minorities for decades. This white woman changed her story like three times, lied the whole way through, made up a fake babysitter kidnapping story, and you’re telling me the justice system isn’t faulty? I believe it should be innocent until proven guilty too, but geeze, Casey was DEFINITELY guilty man.
@BlueCore777 oh so then why a group of professionals failed at noticing it but you don't??? I recommend you study to become a lawyer cause you are really good for it
@Haley Poole Really? without any other evidence? wow. I could be in different town, but just because my search history match one of parameter of being a suspect Im guilty.... Talk about being guilty by association.
No honey. This would only mean Im a potential suspect, does not say or prove that Im guilty.
@Bartosz Baranowski A reasonable preponderance of evidence would indicate that yes, if someone was found to have been researching methods of killing a child and has a smell of a deceased body in their car, that they killed their child or at the very least, were aware their child was dead and didn't inform police.
@Bartosz Baranowski The justice system is demonstrably flawed in a number of ways and does not always produce accurate results. The fact that someone has been found not guilty of a specific charge does not mean they were not responsible for what occurred. You can talk yourself breathless about the first principles of law but in this case, you are just letting Casey piss on your leg and giggle as she tells you it is raining.
@Jess Pavlichenko "circumstantial" - exactly. circumstantial evidence does not prove beyond reason of doubt, does it? Unless there is hard proof that links suspect and set of circumstantial evidence to crime scene, victim etc it proves nothing.
@Jess Pavlichenko Ech.... thats exactly my point. She seems guilty. But there is no hard proof other than circumstantial.
As to rest... damn you have chip on your shoulder. Its not about letting her go, because I cant prove it. Its about not putting innocent people in jail because there is only circumstantial evidence. You are really ignorant if you view it like that pissing contest. Look at Japan or iron curtain countries - guilty until proven otherwise.
@Arq Kay ach, I get it. Personal take on mistake I made in non native language. Yes, thats clear indication of my low IQ.... Classic NLP at play. Don't take on the argument, attack and discredit opponent. Nice.
For all offended snowflakes, like Arq Kay, Im sorry, I made a bubu, it should have been:"Beyond a reasonable doubt" not "beyond reason of doubt".
@Bartosz Baranowski Casey Anthony was the last person to see Caylee alive. She had been 'missing' for 31 days according to herself, but the defence later argues she had died on the first day. So there's the first lie, because those are two mutually exclusive statements. She showed no emotion towards her child whatsoever which can also be easily proven by everything shown in the video. She looked up suffocation, the corpse of her child was then found wrapped in items that belonged to Casey with duct tape on her mouth and nose. The trunk of her car was reported by multiple people to reek of death. Please explain to me how someone who is not guilty of any nefarious shit has a trunk that smells like death. On the day the police got involved, she led them around town to all kinds of places that had no relevance at all so as to prolong the search for her child. Again, why would an innocent person do this. I agree there is reasonable doubt as to whether it was first degree murder. But even if we follow the defences (clearly fabricated) story about her drowning on the first day, Casey should have still definitely gotten that neglect charge, and I'm not sure what the law is about hiding someone's 'accidental' death, but that doesn't exactly seem legal either. So in summary, saying there is no evidence and people are merely 'acting on emotion' when they say she did it, is really fucking dumb.
@Est.1997 I said, "The system is flawed, and as much as there are things in place for the innocent to not have a guilty verdict, it also allows the guilty to have an innocent verdict. " Meaning that innocent people have been tried guilty before, and laws have been placed to prevent that; reflecting what you are saying. I am not fighting with immature people in forums. The difference between you and I is I don't care about your opinion. You have the right to yours, and I have the right to mine; respecting that reality. It is also funny since I didn't even argue with you, I simply said to the other person that I agreed with them, so there was no place for you to jump in to begin with. Anyway, I am not entertaining this any further. Take care.
It doesnt make new criminals any more than alcohol does, it just causes poor judgement. I'd rather a child murderer spend decades in prison than some teenager who got caught with a pot brownie.
@Jiri Skoda It was a hypothetical dude, I said 'I'd rather see', but kids do go to jail for years over distribution of pot and weed brownies, though possession usually only results in detention. Either way, I'm just using a hypothetical situation to exemplify the absurdity of the lack of consequence in this case where as people are punished for harmless minor crimes. I don't know where you got me indicating an actual incident from.
@Javier Arenas I mean... I couldn't be because it's legal, but I guess if I was somewhere it wasn't. But that's kind of the point, the usa justice system failed here. People go to jail for years over harmless things while monsters get away with heinous crimes.
It's because the prosecution did a bad job. They built the entire case on first degree premeditated murder, which let the defense argue that Caley's death was accidental and then covered up, which would at best support murder two. They should have charged her with both and given the jury the option to pick one but were overconfident.
@Bog Meat I get it. My point was to bring up the absurdity of the comparison Sarah did on the first place, it's not a matter of penalty proportionality on murders. Maybe the system failed, but that has nothing to do with lawfully imprisoned drug dealers or whatever you consider "harmless things". Again, maybe those penalties are high (😉) for the crime, fair, but comparison makes no sense to me. The only issue is the proof needed to convict.
PS: If the jury found her guilty after days of trial, are we qualified to assess differently over a youtube video?(That's all the info I have at least, I guess this has had a huge media impact in US)
@Javier Arenas I understand your point, but people in this thread are just pointing out the absurdity of this and other situations where a clearly horrible person isn't charged for their crimes through comparison. People were the same way with the case where the parents of a child kept in a dog cage in the basement only got two years. People tend to compare light sentences, or a lack of any, to heavy sentences for minor crimes to express outrage at the lack of consequence.
It isn't at all necessary, but it's just people sharing their thoughts and feelings on the case with other strangers. Being qualified has nothing to do with it, people can discuss and analyze the case as they see fit.
@Jiri Skoda actually as someone who's volunteered at a few Incarcerated Youth Centers, there's certainly teenagers sent to prison for possession of weed. IYC is without a doubt prison, just with a different name, because a lot of those kids don't ever leave the system, not even after they're adults (where they go to prison after)
She got thrown in jail for other charges and people smoking weed can be thrown in jail for other crimes. Still if it can't be proven it can't be proven. That lawyer she hired must be raking in the dough.
Art Vandalay that’s true but it is also necessary to acknowledge that the system is biased, and if a black kid is seen smoking a gram of weed, he’s more likely to be thrown in jail for that gram of weed (https://theleafdesk.com/meet-the-americans-with-life-sentences-for-cannabis-possession/) as opposed to a white man who’s shot someone. i’ve met people who’ve lost their lives to the prison system for literally just having weed on them, without a history of any other criminal charges.
@Lanh Matelski That sucks. The system is not biased. Imperfect for sure but I bet there are other factors to consider. I am a bit skeptical of a white guy shooting someone getting less time than weed but shoot me the link and I'll read it I'm happy to change my mind.
@Cody Ruth Nooooo! Don't bring your covid up here!
Apparently there was an issue with americans sneaking into Canada when cases really started to explode. The border along Seattle and British Columbia was closed for all non-essential travel and a bunch of people claimed they lived Alaska, even though they didn't, just to escape the US side of the pandemic.
@Alley Mask The weed argument is deceptive because it doesn't tell you all the facts. Someone goes to jail for weed probably has other crimes against them as well.
@Eric H Someone who smokes weed can get away with it too. In this case she just had the better lawyer and they couldn't prove she did it. Now did she? Maybe. Maybe her neglect killed the kid and she doesn't give a shit. People who go to jail for weed also tend to, usually, have other blots on their records.
@RazzBerry No, you always upcharge so if that doesn't stick second degree murder can be applied. If they would have charged her for second degree but it turned out to be first, she would have got off.
@Reuven Roslyn, Esq I think they also charged her aggrevated manslaughter in the first degree as a backup charge, and it was also found not guilty.........
But yeah, the prosecution did a bad job here........I would not have convicted her with murder one base on the case presented...
Jiri Skoda go ahead and call BS. i know you’re not ever going to visit the Incarcerated Youth Center of Chicago, and I know you’re not ever going to meet those kids who (as young as 13) have been imprisoned for possession of weed. In my opinion, as a three-year-long volunteer, it is in fact a prison, because none of the youth actually leave the prison system. Sure, they might age out, but they end up right back in prison later on sometimes even months apart from when they leave the Center.
Jiri Skoda And then again, you’re probably just a troll. Even if you aren’t, im not arguing with someone whos never been to this specific Center, because i know that the diaspora between our point of views is just going to cause trouble, since you don’t know what i know and i don’t know what you know.
@Jiri Skoda no that's a real scenario and not part of my original hypothetical that it's absurd that a person can be imprisoned with an excessive sentence for a minor crime with no victims in the same justice system that lets a clear and blatantly dangerous murderer walk free.
Weed is legal in a LOT of the USA now. Been legal for me in California for a LONG, LONG time..... got my medical card when I was 18 because I have seizures, but now it's just plain legal for ANYBODY of smoking age - although i still keep my medical documents up to date because I think it "looks better" on paper.....
@Jess Pavlichenko Food Stamps came from War Rationing. Why are you still using them? Someone tell the USA that we managed to kill Hitler... Wake up America why are you still on rations?
@Reuven Roslyn, Esq You shouldn't let criminals of heinous crimes walk free on a ''technicality''. That isn't justice. It contradicts the point of the justice system.
@Javier Arenas Consider the following: Your ''jury'' is comprised of a random selection of individuals. Thus, are we qualified to assess differently over a youtube video? i would think no more, but also no less than the jury (who are also not professionals)
@Marklithikk I’m not American and I always found it baffling that people continue to live in certain states that still have the death penalty for example. I’d move to another state ASAP.
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Javier Arenas2020-10-17 00:19:49 (edited 2020-10-17 00:20:11 )
@Robotron Sage not professionals who went trough all the proof and facts for weeks. I just saw a 69 minute - probably biased - sensationalist video. I'm not saying they can´t be wrong or we can't be right, I just don't find it so easy to assure that the decision is wrong.
@lelennyfox34 exactly. There have been plenty of people convicted on less evidence. I mean they had decomposition in her car. They had proof casey lied about everything. They had evidence
@Lanh Matelski it's more about the color green as in money. If that black kids parents have money he can get away without going to jail. Money can keep blacks out of jail just look what money did for OJ Simpson
@Jess Pavlichenko what should happen to people who commit food stamp fraud and take away some of the money set aside for other poor families also struggling to eat?
EXACTLY. Smoking weed is bad for YOU, but really only you. It doesn't harm anyone else. This doesn't mean you should do it, but tbh I would jail a murder over an addict any day.
@Marklithikk ICELAND!! Its one of the best, most safe countries! Let's all go together! It would be so much better, expect no Trump supporters allowed okay? :))
It’s the lawyer... she got a lot of attention and news on it, meaning she got a good ass lawyer because it gives him publicity... no weed smoker gon have a good ass lawyer like that🤷🏻♂️
In my country a brother killed his sister and went to jail for 6 years. A woman didn't pay her tax for a few years she went to prison for 15 years ...this world is upside down really.
I got so mad when her best friend started crying and she just said "wow it was a waste calling you". She has no empathy or remorse for other human beings.
@Zack Stanfield kinda weird that she would call her friend her mom… have you ever thought for a second that maybe her moms name is cindy? 🤣🤣🤣 use your brain for at least a second before you comment
@TIBS did you watch the video or are you just that slow? She called her mom first who gave the phone to her brother who then gave the phone to her best friend. “Use your brain for at least a second before you comment”
@Noise Injection There is evidence. She lied about EVERYTHING. Not only did she lie, she didn't report her child missing when her child was laying in the woods in a trash bag. She made up the nanny for christ sakes. She partied while her daughter was missing. She didn't give a shit and all of that is evidence enough. The country got unlucky and we got a dumb jury. What happened is they just grabbed some random story(swimming pool) and used that for an excuse. Then the typical woman thing where you say your father raped you, because you are on trial for murder and she needs an excuse. ANYWAYS, she is lucky her defense lawyer was not an idiot.
@Sh3llShock Exactly. What does what her dad did to her as a teen have anything to do with the case? The defense lawyer brings it up, just after he gets done saying that emotion shouldn't be involved. She was caught in so many lies. Her google suffocation searches, partying while her child was missing, well you already said it all. This case goes beyond belief. If there are any morally motivated serial killers out there, the hit needs to be put out on Casey Anthony, you will be doing God's work, a lot better than our 'justice' system anyway.
I mean, she obviously did it, but referring to her daughter in the past tense doesn't prove one way over the other, seeing as the defense was that she drowned in the pool and they hid the body. In both scenarios Casey Anthony would've already known she was dead
@Superlative Yeah it does prove something. A person who doesn't know their kid is dead doesn't talk like that. In fact there's a video on youtube that shows Chris Watts news interview and shows all of the lying traits of a liar and that was one of em.
@Lisa Simpson I'm saying that her defence was that her daughter died in a swimming pool and she was covering it up, in both scenarios she already knew she was dead when the interview happened. In that case it doesn't prove that she killed her
@Lisa Simpson bruh, can you read? Her defences argument was that the daughter drowned in a swimming pool, her dad disposed of the body in the woods, and then Casey made up the kidnapping story.
The Prosecution says she killed her daughter hid her in the woods and made up the kidnapping story
In BOTH scenarios she would've known already that she was dead, in BOTH scenarios she was lying therefore its not proof that she killed her daughter, because it both supports and doesn't support both arguments.
@Lisa Simpson the duct tape has nothing to do with her using the past tense when referring to the daughter in the interview, it's entirely different evidence
@RearAdmiralTootToot I really wish they asked her to take a polygraph. Even though it isn't admissible in court, and she could even say no, I think she lies so much that she would lie to herself that she could pass it and fail.
@part 3 People who are sexually abused as kids tend to go overboard in protecting any kids in their care. To me it simply came off like ANOTHER of her lies.
"Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales". Geez, how fake can you get - it's like making up a lie about Italian guy called "Macaroni Pepperoni". The more suprising it is that it turned out that a person called Zenaida Gonzales does actually exist, but she never met Casey and had nothing to do with her family. She even sued Casey for damages, as supposedly after Casey threw that name in her case, she got death threats and lost her job and apartment.
Even worse! The judge tossed out the defamation lawsuits because Anthony’s statements “were not intended to hurt Gonzales and weren’t malicious.” Poor woman
There was a real woman in the Orlando area with that name who had to be brought in, who obviously had no f'ing clue wth was going on.
I just still cannot believe she was found innocent. I never saw the media stuff when it happened because I worked too much, but even just learning all this in court, there is no way I'd find reasonable doubt. They'd have to mistrial because no way. They had to have been bribed or threatened.
The prosecutor's office overplayed their hand. They had a slam dunk case and messed it up. The coroner's report was inconclusive on the cause of death.
@foxtailedcritter This is not evidence of a "broken system." It worked the way it was designed. The prosecution has once chance to make its case and if they mess up--as here--then they lose.
Multiple witness saying the boot smelled like a corpse, honestly curious if they bothered to check for any DNA evidence. Not every day a child gets inside a boot.
@foxtailedcritter the defense surely acknowledged the death and the body in the trunk...
They said it was accidentally drowning, and then panic and a cascade of poor decisions afterwards.
The prosecution put all their eggs in the "party girl just wanted to party, haven't we all been there amiright!?" Approach.... And forgot to do the rest of the work
@Keldon McFarland It's definitely a broken system. If this woman was poor, she would have been found guilty. The US is only 4% of the world's population but we have MORE prisons than ALL countries COMBINED!! More than half of all prisoners are held in filthy cages for non violent, victimless crimes. Modern day slavery that preys on the poor of society and to keep the rich man's pockets nice and fat. Follow the money.
@JASON VOORHEES “She got caught in the act of lying about previous work, previous colleagues, and a made up nanny, she waited a whole month before reporting her daughter missing, had google searched a "foolproof" suffocation technique, had a trunk that smelled of a decomposing body, the detectives found her daughters body less than a mile from the house that she lives in, and she was still found not guilty” - AJ’s Outdoors. Her child had been missing for 5 weeks and she still would not call the police and probably never would have if it wasnt for her worried mother that had just found out about it. You are ridiculous if u think she had nothing to do with it.
@Keldon McFarland prison count is not the same thing as inmate count. (I'm not sure Teresa is correct on either point, by the way).
So you missed the point. And privatizing the prison system is literally her point.
Lots of people make lots of money from US prisons. They employ many people and many tax dollars are both generated and consumed by it.
The system is too big to fail, so they have to keep rounding people up.
Bragging about being a wealthy enough nation to imprison as many as you do for non violent crimes... Isn't really a brag. Btw.
I'm going to take a wild guess... You're not poor, underprivileged or undereducated... So you're a fan of the system staying just the way it is ?
Edit: but to your point. Building prisons and staffing them is expensive ... Which is why many other countries have outrageous over population and over crowding in their prisons.... So that part of your political leaning spiel was accurate. Wealth does play a role in keeping the sheer number of prisons up and running.
@juui lmo No. She was acquitted on all of the big charges and the smaller charges she was convicted of were overturned. The prosecution only gets one chance.
She didn’t get convicted because they charged her with first degree with no proof beyond a reasonable doubt of premeditation. If they did second degree or manslaughter I’m sure she would have been convicted. The jury doesn’t think she’s innocent there’s just no strong evidence of premeditation.
@drebk Not to mention, if you look at other wealthy countries like Sweden, Germany, Netherlands and so on, they have such low prisoner numbers they actually have closed prisons and converted them into office spaces and such. So 'The US is wealthy' has nothing to do with our prison count. Plus, our prisons are extremely over crowded as it is. The more you can pack in, the more you can profit.
Dude they had enough for a guilty verdict but they went for the death penalty. The jury just wasn’t willing to decide to kill this woman. If they had went for life in prison I guarantee there would’ve been a guilty verdict!
@SUNBURST ah no, "Dude" that wasnt it at all. She was up for 1st degree murder and the jury felt it was 2nd (not pre-meditated) so thats why they didnt convict. It had nothing to do with the sentence. The jurors interviewed stated if 2nd degree murder was on the table, they wouldve convicted her. The prosecution f'd up... kinda like you did posting your incorrect "facts"
@juui lmo Unless they find an exception to the Double Jeopardy rule, (like mistake of fact, trial / conviction overturned, other related charges) most likely no. This is why you DO not go full out on a circumstantial case. Prosecutor shouldve thrown 2nd degree murder as an option. They got cocky and didnt.
Well, I wouldve voted the same way - I dont know if she killed her, or did so after the incident. Prosecutor shouldve charged 2nd degree murder as well. There is no limit to what they can charge you with. Its just a matter of acquittal vs. conviction
Yeah and lots of people suspected her in the beginning because of that, she was pinned as the prime suspect right away and all that stuff examined heavily on news shows like Nancy Grace
@Mary Ray They're either naive, or at least narcissistic themselves. In this case, they probably didn't want their daughter to get in trouble with the law.
yeah was talking of her on the past tense because she knew she was already gone.......obviously her parents are terrible enablers, always have been and ended up continuing the pattern even in this.
She actually said "that she's had both of you" as in HAS HAD... still suspicious because it's so passive... but not quite as much of a dead giveaway as past tense. She's too used to telling lies as truth to make that big of a mistake... Her mistakes are much more subtle
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sal H2020-08-03 22:25:22 (edited 2020-08-03 22:26:19 )
I wonder what the jury thinks now, if they know they were manipulated and believed a picture that was painted for them that turned out to be totally false. I wonder if anyone has any regrets on not being able to see through all the lies because I sure would. Has to be obvious to all now that they screwed up. I wish the prosecution had the same skill for getting the jury to see their side of things as the skeevy defense did. Thanks to them a child killer is out there somewhere living it up just like she was days after Caylee first went missing. I'm sure there were plenty of hot body contests for her to lose when she got out. Also could be false but I hear that shes considering having another baby, with the guy who was lead investigator on her legal defense team? oh hell to the nah, somebody keep all the duct tape away from her if that ever happens.
@sal H you are hilarious. please be my friend bc you, friend, are seriously witty. That defense attorney probably studied psychology really hard bc i too was sure of her guilt until he spoke.
N Day exactly. They probably all believe she murdered her child, they just couldn’t prove it with the States lack of evidence. Casey callousness was so puzzling they couldn’t get there without any kind of confession.
yes the prosecution laid out a bunch of facts that any sane person could follow to the writing on the wall but obviously the defense attorney knew the things that the jury would look at in this case and think "guilty" and was able to think up some story or kind of explain away all these weird facts like how she didnt call the cops for 30 days. Hence the "her father molested her" opening to make her more believable and sympathetic. He knew what they would think before they did and was able to twist the narrative to his advantage to sway those thoughts. Casey Anthony herself was pretty good at this too. The prosecution lacked this manipulation and foresight and would probably have been a different verdict if that werent the case.
@sal H The Prosecutor can't tell you what happened to Caylee Anthony. They don't know how she actually died, they can't tell you whether or not it was even a murder.
@sal H I mean, she's off the charts... nothing she says bears any relevance to reality yet everyone talks to her like she's talking sense. I don't get it.
@N Day Um, so the prosecution failed to prove that Caylee didn't wrap her self up, stuff herself into a bag, smother herself with duck tape, being sure to stink up the car first before being dumped in the woods? Nah. Jury fell for a 'slick schicht', which is sad, pathetic, and quite frankly, Deja-Moo... when you've heard this bullsh!t before... or after as the case may be. Makes me sick.
Oh, and they forgot that Daddy and Bro Weren't the ones On Trial. Gggrr....
people make slips of the tongue all the time...freuds ridiculous and branding someone guilty bc they misspoke is inane. that being said, she was fuckin guilty
I never saw her innocent. I questioned her guilt a LITTLE, But this is FAR more telling than what was available to see back when it was going on. it leaves ZERO doubt.
@mrbadguysan Um, so the prosecution failed to prove that Caylee didn't wrap her self up, stuff herself into a bag, smother herself with duck tape, being sure to stink up the car first before being dumped in the woods? Nah. Jury fell for a 'slick schicht', which is sad, pathetic, and quite frankly, Deja-Moo... when you've heard this bullsh!t before... or after as the case may be. Makes me sick. Oh, and they forgot that Daddy and Bro Weren't the ones On Trial. Gggrr....
After watching footage of the likes of Casey, Diane Downs, Ted Bundy, etc., Ive become skeptical of charming ppl. The more charming they are, the more cautious I am to befriend em.
@sal H imagine their agonizing regret in thinking they were doing all the right things, or were on the fence about a situation & realize they should have gone the tough love way...just like every devoted parent. We parents have a tendency to let things go & don't know how off the rails their child has gone til its a nightmare. Especially if you have a beautiful, charming, intelligent child and/or a sociopath. Im sure her other family & friends didnt see her psychopathology either. // a fact I just learned: a sociopath is created. A psychopath is born. Thought you'd be interested. :).
How incredibly difficult it must be to see, let alone have to accept, that your own child is a psychopath and murderer, let alone that your grandbaby was murdered at the same time...by your own child, to boot.
@sal H You're absolutely right. for Kimmy to say the defense attorney studied psychology really well, comes as a joke to me. Just because one person have experienced bad things in the past, doesn't make it easier when a WORSE problem comes a long. NOBODY will go to a hot body contest three days after their child is missing. ONLY if they do NOT care about the child. I have similar experiences in my past just like Casey have. It's a bad comparsion to say because she was used as a child, she wont feel pain.
i studied every single word and second there was said in this video, not for one second Casey was sad that she's lost her child.
Kimmy, I can tell you one thing, and that is you've never studied psychology.
I'll bet my life that Casey is guilty. I'll take any bet. She is guilty. A sociopath at is finest.
Nice tattoo she got btw. Seems pretty normal, "My beautiful life". Instead of "Rip Caylee, my beautiful angel"
@sal H Im sure the jurors who got it wrong will be agonizing over this the rest of their days...just for being dutiful Americans, while the murderer goes free. Shame on the defense. Her Father realized his daughter is a psychopath & murderer at the same time he found out his grandbaby was murdered & he'll never see her again. And he was accused of raping his daughter. Surreal.
@Aglet Knight Here's the thing though. As much as it sucks that legal justice wasn't obtained for Caylee, the social death that Casey is exacting now is far beyond any prison sentence. The woman can't even leave her damn house. She wanted to do photography but who is going to hire someone who is like the Diane Downs of her generation? Even though legally she can go places, she can't go anywhere without drawing unwanted attention and scrutiny. People detest criminals especially the ones that hurt kids. That goes double for the ones who are parents.
Yeah she's crazy good at improv'ing random fake stories and people, but useless when this trail of lies actually gets followed up on and investigated. Like she says the most preposterous and easily discredited shit, but when just talking to average people without controversy surrounding you, her quick pathological lying skills are honed af. If she now proceeded to actually practice making the content of those lies stand up to scrutiny and investigation, she'd be unbeatable, but the latter is a lot more difficult than the former; actually making the big webs of lies all check out or be impossible to disprove.
Yeah that's always a huge red flag that is not picked up on a lot in cases like this. But looking back we now know Casey new for sure she was dead. I think personally it was accident, she gave her to much xanax. Xanny the nanny did exist just in tablet form. She was jealous of Caylee that's known, which is strange but not for sure a murderer. The fact little Caylee was found a quarter mile from the house, that would be sure to be searched when water in that part of FL went down. And that it took several calls, something don't add up about how Caylee was found. And it's not the actions of a pre medicated murder. If I planned to kill someone, I'd plan it from start to finish including making sure the body is unlikely found. Not leave above ground up the road. That might tigh in with the accident & panicked theory, as the chloroform theory is ridiculous, that Casey had the skills & ability to make it first , give it to Caylee in a house they shared with her parents. It's clear now lookin back she knew from day one. And listening to her description of what she first said happened, there's a grudging respect for the performance, but also baffled she thought it wouldn't all be checked out. Personally I think if she'd had experience with law enforcement before she'd have played it way differently.
@James Melton she’s referring to her in past tense as if she’s already long gone. No mother would dare think of their child being dead, it’s the last thing imaginable.
I just saw that... At the same time when she does that.. watch the mom... Even though the father is on the phone at that time when she refers to Caylee in the past tense.. her mom immediately puts her hand on her mouth. And that's the only time she cries ( the mom ). She knew then that her daughter killed her. But watch the mother's hands in that moment
Yes.. it's a scary revelation. And I remember back at that time if my memory serves me correctly when I was following this when it happened everybody was bashing the parents... I remember back then kind of getting on that bandwagon but when you look back and you look at this footage you can tell right when she said that her mother knew it's the only time her mother shows real raw emotion about really considering and knowing oh my God my daughter did this... Couldn't imagine
@Rach_xx idk...the issue for me is the duck tape over the nose and mouth....how does that happen?? i'm not trashing the xanex theory, but the duck tape man...
@SayoSweeti usually duck tape over those certain areas indicates someone knew the victim and the killer is uncomfortable with what they did. It indicates but but not always legit in every case.
Plus less than 5 mins into the video she claims she talk to Caylee the day the grand mother called 911.
Casey has no problem having others even family take the blame even if it means she gets to walk free. She let her attorney blame her father for the death of Caylee. While blaming another family member doesn’t mean murder it shows she’s willing to throw family under the bus. Another thing is reports Casey never wanted to have Caylee. She was pregnant and her mother pressured her to keeping the child she didn’t want. Again she could of eventually learned to love and appreciate her daughter but it doesn’t look good when she writes in her diary that she is free, happy, and she makes up stories that her deceased daughter is kidnapped as if that a better alternative That is telling she figures being a bad neglectful parent is better than the another alternative which is killer. If she was innocent then that’s a disturbed mindset would at least would contribute to her daughters death by neglect and not caring. So yes she is at least guilty of indirect manslaughter due to not even alerting police of a non guardian is holding her child captive
@Rach_xx Hopefully your sleeping pattern is better, though and you're not anxious over this. (edit: it's easy to overthink this & try & maybe find something which is more palatable than what may have happened which is she wanted a quick way to be rid of something she saw as an annoying problem rather than an infant with a life of her own & the person most responsible for protecting her, the person the child trusted more than anything, killed her. But I agree: it's a vile thing to do. We hope it wasn't the way it seems but if I've learned anything in my long life 'tis that monsters exist in more than our imagination.....)
@Therese Christiansen Thanks. Yeah a bit, my god I've just struggled to understand some of my own comment. I find it impossible to understand why anyone would hurt a child. I mean if you don't wanna take care of them, family would. Or that little girl would've been adopted no problem. I do think that everything does point more towards accidental than planned. But even if that's true that's still manslaughter she'd have been looking at at least 20 yrs, poss longer with it being a child. I honestly doubt she'd have lasted 20 yrs in prison. If she did it would be cos she was in PC the whole time. And that would be a long hard 20 yrs. It's time she just came out & said what happened, they couldn't take her back to court either way. And I'm not sure she could be more hated. I can't help but admire Jose Biaz he sure knows what he's doing as a defense lawyer. But there was no evidence at all it was drowing. So I don't get how she didn't get at the very least child neglect leading to death. After not reporting it for over a month, but I think its something really only Casey knows, & it will likely stay that way.
Sometimes people confuse the tenses or it is their normal way of speaking. I have noticed with my time in the States that many Southerners will talk in the past tense- even if they are talking about the present. 'So, we was all here and waiting for you to show up. Now that you're here, we can do xyz...' just as an example.
Referring to somebody in the past tense doesn't mean anything, especially if it is normal speech patterns in the location. However, investigators will definitely take note of it.
They claimed her dad was in on it, he supposedly had part in her disappearence as well yet they never was forced to answer that unasked question...what did your dad do with Caley after she drowned. I watched the trial from beginning to end, I watched was so confused , I almost believed Casey's story... Maybe I still do
I agree. There's a big part missing here. That whole defense came out of nowhere with no real explanation. I think to get better answers it would be good to watch the case itself.
The state could not prove that Casey was the one to put the duct tape around her mouth and placed her there.
Joss claimed she drowned in the pool but then to cover up the drowning, they did the unthinkable. It was a strategically and brilliantly way to create doubt in the jurors mind on if Casey ACTUALLY murdered Kaylee. All the state had was speculation at best. They could have got a conviction if they didn’t already assume they would have won.
First if all the body had decomposed..so there was no nose. Second The body was found in a local dump site for trash. The duct tape itself was NOT looped. No DNA of her on the body. No time of death. Just a bunch of little lies to her parents and cops.
@Gabriel Velazquez There are certain cases that no amount of money in the world could get me to defend someone. Job or not. I guess this is one of the reasons why attorneys are hated.
It doesn’t (shouldn’t) matter what they “believe”. The burden of proof is on the prosecution. They have to prove that the woman murdered her daughter beyond any doubt. It’s called “innocent until proven guilty”. The defense attorney in this case was at an elite level. I wasn’t there, and I certainly didn’t hear all of the evidence presented against the defendant, but the prosecution was simply outclassed. Btw, there is no perfect justice system.
Not only that , the opening and closing statement from the defense contradict themselves , Defense opening S : She'd Died Drowning ( as in we know how she died) Now Closing S : No One Knows ( Not even Me) how she died thus you can't make a decision?!? . Jury ate it all up
@Kayla Webb it was a small wooded swampy area right by a school that was partially underwater (shallow) at a certain time of year, every year. . People would put trash in that place. She was found in a bag wrapped in a blanket. The skull cap rollId out of that bag. As for the other bones found outside of the bag and blanket were spread by animal and insect activity It was either murder or a cover up for an accident. If you cant prove it was one or the other then you (shouldnt) cant be convicted. They couldn't even prove it was her either.
@agentxyz far from gullible, I just think there may be a chance the dad may have had a part in this somehow. . I lean towards Casey's guilt more, I only believe maybe 2% there's a chance otherwise
nessaboomommy09 was there any forensic evidence she had drowned? I thought the cause of death was caused by suffocation hence the duct tape.... I know forensic science can prove that she died from drowning vs being suffocated and then thrown in water after death.
@Cursed with Curiosity Rubbish she is lier. Kid gone missing for a month and then she makes up claims that nanny kidnapped her. She killed her because she wanted a party life and she couldn't with her daughter in the way.
@Felicia McCarron the remains were found 5 months later after animals and such had gotten to it. Probably wasnt enough "body" left to determine cause of death.
@Games Until Dawn That's the whole issue. It's not up to the defense to provide answers. The prosecution is supposed to prove it in court. To be honest though, I think the defense attorney swayed them with his words.
Kayla Webb She was. Just down the road from the grandparents home. In their most recent interview they go there with cameras and it shows it’s a wooded area right off the road. There was no dump from what I could see.
@LegenDarius Yeah, I get it. It just sucks that certain people will get defended despite being guilty in my opinion. I understand that attorneys like this are very necessary for people that are actually innocent. I would have to believe the person 100% to defend them if it was me. Guess that's why I'm not a lawyer. I feel like the parents knew the daughter was guilty, but didn't want her to get the death sentence. Which, as a parent I understand. But, I think that played a big part in the outcome. And it's painful to see things she's said years later.
@Legendary Detective Wobbuffet to be frank the diary could go either way. she couldve made the right choice of hiding the body after it had drowned. although I suppose the "happy" part contradicts that...
I don't even think the defense attorney believed it. In his closing statements he said that no one could prove how she died, directly contradicting this statement. It was likely just said to sow the seeds of doubt in an otherwise airtight explanation that only a guilty person would wait to tell the police and show so much nonchalance when they did.
@Felicia McCarron Statute of limitations for crimes like that. He was accused of molesting her like fifteen years ago, from the trial. Very few crimes do not have a statute of limitations, murder is one.
@Felicia McCarron no she was too decomposed to see. If you cant check lungs for water because they are decomposed, then cause if death couldnt be determined.
Legendary Detective Wobbuffet It’s a criminal psychology study on Casey Anthony. The only reason the included her dad at all was because it was testimony that was revealing about Casey Anthony. I’m sure you could find the footage of that testimony. (No offense intended, just trying to help 😁👍🏼!
She didn't want to be a mom. That journal entry should tell you. People have kids at a young age and can't accept the fact that all the partying and freedom is gone. Your life is now dedicated to another. I think one of the saddest things about this is that her grandparents would have taken that baby girl and raised her as their own, happily. It was obvious they were the ones who loved her, who loved being grandparents. Rest in peace Caylee. Holding my son extra tight tonight.
She’d never give her to grandma. She hated her mom, her mom made her have the child. She doesn’t want her but her her mom would never get her. The more love the little girl got, the more she hated her mom. She may kill the little girl to hurt her mom. As always, her mom let her get away with it.
It's clearly more than that though, because if that were the only thing at play, she could've handed over Caylee to her grandparents, and if that didn't work, she could've given her up for adoption. Those would be the obvious first two choices even from a purely logical perspective, because those things would be easier than going through all the effort to kill her, make up all these lies, and go through the trial
@Abigail Marshall it's possible that the grandparents would not take the victim because they wanted the mother to raise her herself as punishment for getting pregnant.
You don't have to accept that fact if you're a dad, cause dad's get to run off if they pay the child raising fee. Mom's can run off too if they're not too stupid to know what adoption is. There's so many options available that that's not really an excuse to be to young cause you don't have to raise the kid legally if you aren't ready.
I think she didn't give her to them cause in her mind she was going to look like a bad mother giving the baby girl to them, and I'm sure as hell she is a narcissist so she wouldn't want no one to look down on her, that's why she didn't want media attention, everyone was going go look down on her, and we all still are.
@Abigail Marshall agreed ma'am, it was definitely more. I think her narcissistic personality paired with her spoiled, no consequences upbringing was enough to push her to the extreme. At any rate, some sort of mental deficiency or abnormality was at play too.
@chill B. If you don't think it's easier for a man to get away with not fathering their children you're ignoring biological reality. There's never any question if a baby is the mothers. The potential dad can just say the baby isn't theirs, and if proven wrong he may be forced to pay child support, but there is no law on the books that physically changed him to his daughter's ankle and says that he has to be a part of her life no matter what. It's a reality of society that the vast majority of single parents are women. It's a reality of society that it's easier for a man to not have the burden of raising a child. It's even partially a biological reality since women have the disadvantage of the baby physically growing inside of them. That gives the man a whole 9 months of extra time to escape to Jamaica and started new life as a humble wealthy sugar cane farmer. There is also a stronger social expectation placed on women to raise their children. Going to pretend things that I could throw thousands of statistics about at you is simply being basic statistical facts and pretend they don't exist? Going to pretend that men raise children equally as often?
@chill B. It was not a question. It was simply.... what it was. I was talking to you. I did not read anything else but your main comment on top. Also, I was reffering to this particular part: Quote: I think one of the saddest things about this is that her grandparents would have taken that baby girl and raised her as their own, happily. Another question?
The whole family were in on it. The grandparents, her brother and sister, the boyfriend, and of course Casey went along with it all. She just became the scapegoat because the family never wanted Casey to begin with she was treated the worst of all the children. Saddest part of it all was Caylee was actually the child of Casey's father. Incestuous DNA tests are the least definitive when it comes to determining whether the father or brother could be the child's biological father. The DNA tests will always show that the father and brother are 1st relatives to the child but it doesn't prove definitively that the father or brother are the biological father
@Ryan what even more sad is the incomprehension people are stuck in, relating to this case, and maybe the real story will never be officially disclosed publicly.
@Sardonicus about 20% of dads have their baby mamas skip town, it's lopsided but not one-sided. Talk about things being ignored 20% is quite a bit to ignore
Revisiting this a year later to say damn, the way this woman speaks to her mother. You can tell these parents were permissive as all hell, probably never punished her for anything. Absolutely cannot imagine talking to anyone I respect even a little bit like that.
@ELFanatic people don’t just become like this because their parents were too easy on them, there was probably always something wrong with her. Although I guess her upbringing enabled it, but when a child is like that idk what can be done
The system failed in this case soooo hard. At a minimum, the number of non-existent people she so casually name drops should have been the CLEAR sign after divulging the truth. There's no reason she should have ever walked away from this case unscathed
Exactly!!! Let's say, hypothetically, she didn't kill her child... Then why the fuck did she make those elaborate stories when asked? Why were all the family and friends worried for the kid but not her? Her not calling the police 31 DAYS after the child went missing should count as some form of abuse. She had to GET ARRESTED AT LEAST FOR ABUSE AND NEGLECT.
Reasons I think she killed her daughter for: - jealous of the attention her parents gave to Caylee - to see how far her lies could go. Like a twisted challenge in which she escapes sentencing. - she didn’t want to be a mum anymore and is authentically an empathetic-less monster None of these reasons are valid obviously. And it’s ridiculous she got away with this.
Personally, I think she overdosed her daughter on Xanax, kept the body in the trunk of her car until she could think of a “decent” excuse for how she died, then she created the “Zanny the nanny” kidnapping story, covered her daughter’s mouth with duct tape (embellished with a heart sticker for dramatic effect iirc) before disposing of the body. During this time she realised how freeing it was to not be a mother anymore and started living the life she wanted (provided the Xanax overdose wasn’t premeditated).
It reminds me of Dostoevsky’s novel “Crime and Punishment,” in which he basically does a deep dive into criminal psychology and the weird, seemingly nonsensical motivations that a person can have for doing something so terrible. The difference is, Dostoevsky’s character experiences emotions, guilt even, and learns over the course of the story. This woman appears to have none.
The third reason is what a lot of people would call obvious but it's apparent that she could have easily just left her child with her parents and left for good but instead, she went the route of murder. There seems to be a sense of hatred that she had for her daughter. Like actual hatred not just inconvenience.
@J Hemphill I agree, but there is a time and a place. I would've focused more on the context of the comment, rather than pointing out lazy phraseology.
Super disgusting how the defense managed to make out victims of moleststion as lying their whole lives. Icky defense tactics overall. But that’s a whole other story & paragraph.
Yeah it’s shocking to me that his defense worked. It just seemed like he was playing every last emotional card he had during his closing statements, and I guess it got to the jury
This actually really pissed me off, you could tell that was a whole bunch of bullshit. I'm normally one to believe victims but in this case you can tell it was Bs for sure
This just goes to show how twisted life can get when people get away with lying all the time and successfully avoiding the consequences of their actions
Holy shit, hearing Christina talk to her on the phone and Casey completely disregarding her concern for CASEYS DAUGHTER and say "wow calling you guys was a huge waste" like how can a human being be that heartless
I watched this entire trial on TV when I was very young, I'm only 26 now. I remember being SO disgusted when they let her go and said she wasn't guilty. Wow.
It’s sad that the one time she should have faced consequences for her actions, she didn’t. She’s gone her whole life, even committing the most atrocious crime you could, without facing any repercussions.
I have a long life time friend who is very similar to Casey. I worry every day about her and every day I worry about her child. I think watching this helps me in a morbid way to see the signs.
As far as I can tell she isn't as bad, and does care about and love her child... but she displays behavior like this sometimes (Casey at her worst) and has a history of seriously inane lies and selfish behavior.
There's nothing legally I can do and very few options but watching this makes me feel like asking if anyone has resources about this stuff or that could be helpful for people who worry about this stuff.
Short of violently doing my best to shake chains and getting myself kicked out of my nieces life all I can do is stand by and keep her at an arms distance and make recordings or her whereabouts and issues, try to influence positively...
All the while I'm worried.
Might delete this comment at some point, but I guess I ended up venting..
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A. Ducky2022-03-02 21:20:02 (edited 2022-03-02 21:23:28 )
Hey, I'm very sorry you're going through this. I don't have any help, but please do record everything.. details matter so much later. I hope there won't be a later, and that all the evidence you collect won't ever be used ... but it's good to have as much as you can. Which you're already doing, so big props to you!!
If possible, maybe install a little hidden camera around your niece. Anything to save a life, within bounds (I mean don't get yourself in trouble).
All the best, big hugs!!
Edit: also take as many pics of your niece growing up, and her wardrobe..
Basically, you're pushed into a situation where you have to be pretending all is well. One of those "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer". Good acting could serve your purpose very well. Look how acting got this bitch off from such a heinous crime.
I had never heard of the case before this video and after watching it I don’t understand how she wasn’t found guilty, but I guess she had a good lawyer!
The decision in this case is a clear example of misjustice.
The test in law is 'beyond reasonable doubt' so to apply this in this case; we have a mother who purposefully does not report her child missing, fabricates countless stories, invents names of people and lies about details of others, leads the police on a wild goose chase and withholds until the last minute confession of the death. And then, the body of the little girl is discovered with duct tape around the head, and the same mothers internet search history includes 'suffocating' etc. This factual evidence cannot be be contested or construed as being anything other than intentional and it is therefore "beyond reasonable doubt" that the little girl was murdered by her own mother.
Casey's parents loved that baby girl so much they would have taken her on. I once was having a really hard time and got my parents to look after my dog for a week so I could focus on myself. They would have kept her if I decided I just couldn't look after her at all anymore (that wasn't the case; I got her back after the week and she ended up living to 15 and a half (RIP)). But I needed a rest from caring for my 'child'. Imagine if it were their own actual human grandchild; even if the agreed week of babysitting wasn't enough, imagine grandparents who wouldn't keep looking after their own grandchild if required or at least seek out the help of various other family members to split the load. If you're struggling, you HAVE OPTIONS. The worst case scenario is offering the child up for adoption if for some reason your family isn't willing to help you (which from listening to the parents in this case was totally untrue). Why would you kill your own child?
PS in case someone thinks I'm a hypocrite, I did kill my dog at 15 and a half years' old getting her put down at the vet but it was critically necessary due to her kidney failure and sudden loss of function of her back legs and bladder and she was very distressed about it and seemed to be in pain, and it was in line with when the vet told me she'd probably die from the three months before when her kidney failure was diagnosed and her life expectancy was 14 at most and she'd outlived that.
Mothers definitely get a lot of leeway in the legal system. You have the whole custody thing, and here - I guarantee you thinking "I cant imagine a mother doing that to her child!" played a large role in getting her off
Nah, it’s just sociopaths in general. They’re really good at manipulating people. Judges tend to favor people who remain calm, and have contempt for people who seem too emotional.
So can someone explained to me, if she drowned in the family pool 1. Why she didn't call 911 and 2. Why was the body found with duct tape over her mouth and nose? I actually know a person who young son drowned in my town recently in their swimming pool. Child service got involved, saw the kids weren't neglected etc, the police then looked at everything and ruled it unfortunate accident and a warning to others about pool safety and why children should learn to swim if there is a pool located on the premises.
I was pissed in 2011/2012 when she got off and im still pissed now. Even more now as I now have 3 girls of my own.
Her internet search history pretty much demolishes her defense teams' entire argument about the drowning so I'm wondering if that evidence wasn't allowed in or something.
I honestly think that she did that, but we already know that her family was really disfunctional to the point of making up all the degreed thing and her lawyer literally said she was abused at the age of 8 (see at minute 55.50-58.00). That could explain a lot about how she delt with her life's problems, expecially the denial behind all the lies: she might have learned to lie to herself really early on in her life in order to survive. So if this is true, we should really talk about it, couse it's the only way to prevent this kind of things from happening. I'm speculating obviously but I cannot be the only one seeing that hidden suffering. good evening everybody
I really think she killed her daughter because she just didn't want to take care of her anymore. She always wanted to go on dates and parties. Her daughter was a hindrance to this and for that she killed her. This is really what I think about her.😡
After everything that was shown in this video, I was quite sure, that jury would find her guilty for SOMETHING What an interesting outcome... How did that happen
I still do not understand how duct tape is not 100% proof of guilt. Defence says that Caylee drowned in a pool and (presumably) Casey hid her body in a swamp (to escape the contempt of society?). If Caylee did drown in a pool - where does the tape come from?
Ive always heard about her and i thought it was just a lady who killed her kid and now that im seeing all this its unbelievable i totally get why this specific case was so big
“Just provide false information to the authorities and you will only get charged for that and not the actual crime” - Casey Anthony “How to get away with murder? Hire a good lawyer” - Casey Anthony
Who waits to find her daughter? If I was to go get my daughter at a "babysitter" and she is not there I would go to the end of earth to find her! My gosh, the justice system is so corrupted and illogical. The evidence is pretty straightforward on this
you cannot convince me that there was no bribing involved, since there is absolutely no doubt that casey is at least involved in the death of her child
absolutely outrageous that she walked free. i think she did a shit job in committing the crime but her top-notch lawyer definitely saved her ass. i still cant believe the jury 😒
It baffles me that she passed several psychiatric evaluations with no remarks. I get such huge narccisistic vibes, psychopathic vibes, from her apathy and her constant manipulation of the people around her. Watching these clips of her is beyond terrifying. Getting so many psycho vibes.
What I don't understand about this is, if she really didn't want her daughter why not just give her up. Yeah her parents won't have been thrilled but in time they'd understand. I think this is a classic case of psychopathy combined with average intelligence.
What scares me most is that I lie to my parents like she did when she was younger...and I'd cry if they talked to me endearingly or I felt like I was appreciated and wanted by them... The fact that they threw a graduation party sucked though. I'm beginning to appreciate the fact that my parents truthfully told my relatives about my failures. Or I'm misreading this.
How ignorant are these parents even after all the lying she had done they still believed her and wasted time with the “have you seen me” stuff and having other people join in on the search still treating it like an abduction.
I really lose hope with cases like this. Bet she has a great care free life now,even if she had to fuck up her fam ties for it. She got away with it. How can everybody of the jury agree on this…fml
It's very telling that at 29:50 when she is talking to her father everything is in past tense : "You WERE a great grandfather." "Caylee WAS so lucky." what a monster!
i can not and will never understand how this world works the fact that she was found not guilty makes me so angry and sad at the same time this entire thing goes against my humanity this is not right
Maybe we should have classes in grade school about accountability. Then we can blame the school system for our children’s bad behavior. At what point does the human race become accountable?
The name Mason reminds me of of the "Perry Mason" Also, liars only give up when they're dead. They never run out of options especially when you give them an audience.
Thanks JCS I have just been out of relation 20 years married and I was very close of being killed by her .things like that happens every were. thanks again I am Arabic from Dubai and love what you do.
HOW IS IT THAT JENNIFER, THE GIRL FROM THE PREVIOUS VIDEO GOT LIFE WITH NO POSSIBLITY OF PAROLE FOR KILLING HER MOM, BUT CASEY MURDERED A BEAUTIFUL LIL GIRL, HER DAUGHTER AND SHE'S FREE TODAY!?????
@one world Of course not. You missed the point. She lied to everyone, including the parents, about being able to graduate in HS. Even when her parents found out, they still threw a party for her to save face and in turn also them lying to other people. Now tell me is that setting a good example?!
She reminds me of someone at San Jose State, she lied about working at the Admissions office , her parents covered for her, she was pampered and protected by her irresponsible parents. She was actually sleeping around and at sports bars.
A normal child would feel gratitude for their kind parents, and their grace in the face of their failures. Casey is just not normal. The way they raised her, imo really wasnt going to make a difference. Shes just awful. Some people are just awful and theres nothing you can do about it. I get your butterfly effect line of thinking but i dont think its fair to blame them.
@one world I think you’re being too literal. I am looking at it in a broader perspective. It seems like she grew up not having any repurcussions on any wrong doing. There’s no fear in her, she can get away with anything! She learned to manipulate her because they let her. I am one of those who believe good character should be molded first at home.
@Lalad De wow ! hindsight is great isnt it !! the parents loved their kids and did the best for them ! they were not perfect and were not child psychologists that would know exactly how strict to be with them ? neither were they like nostradamus to forsee that she would abuse their love and become a child killer !!!
@Lalad De and I think you're being too broad. I was also a pathological liar as a teen. I almost didn't graduate and had lied to my parents my entire senior year until I couldn't anymore. my parents didn't enable me, but even if they had I would never kill a baby, let alone my own. even tho the parents are responsible for molding her into the liar she is now, the original comment is entirely too broad and insensitive. they aren't responsible for this tragedy. Casey is.
@one world No, the issue is that they enabled her. She went through life thinking that instead of dealing with something hard on life, she could take an easier path and just lie to cover up that she did something wrong and she would have no consequences.
So when you show sometime that they can just skip school and lie about it for months with terrible lies and you still stay on their side and reward them, you set up a slippery slope of them just seeing how far they can get with things. It sounds ridiculous, but it really does escalate from skipping school to eventually killing your child and it all comes from never understanding that they can't just lie their way through any situation.
@AnCap Asuka are you serious ?? not coming down hard enough on your kid for skipping school is enabling them to kill their child latter in life ??? I've heard enough !!
@one world That's not at all what I'm saying. It's clear you're not interested in discussing the psychological ramifications of a child never learning that their actions have consequences and lying to escape punishment isn't a good way to get through life. So let's just end this here.
I'm not sure why you're so intent on denying this reality, but maybe some introspection is needed.
@AnCap Asuka she was obviously molded to be that way ??? I cant take you seriously !! the percentage of parents who let their kids get away with alot more than this case is quite high .so by your logic there should be alot more child killers ??? I think I've played along with you enough !! your conclusion is ridiculous !!
@one world I also don’t get why you think her parents have ZERO responsibility on how she turned out??! In the first place, if that graduation party isn’t a tad weird and messed up, do you think it’s worth reporting?!
I am blaming the parents for setting her up for failure. I am not blaming them for literally killing Caylee. Throw your sarcasm away then maybe you’ll understand.
@Lalad De this case was not about casey failing in life it was about her killing her child ? lots of parents set their kids up to fail ?? but set them up to kill their kids ????? please !!
@O Med i hope you re being a pathological liar is only " i was" thing in the past.. Thts disgusting.. I know many people who are habitual liar are the most miserable ones..
parents do stuff for their kids that they dont deserve !! kid kills their child latter in life must be the parents fault ??? people do things for their undeserving kids everyday all over the world !! 99.999 % of those kids do not kill their own kids ???
@one world you're being willfully ignorant, doing stuff for their kid is like helping them with their hw, getting them a tutor to help with college applications, not lying to everyone that they graduated, writing their college applications for them, or whatever. There is a clear line between helping your child so they have the tools+experiences to thrive and teaching your child it is okay to cheat and lie and be dishonest. She is responsible for the crime but sociopaths don't just come out of nowhere, comes with the two polar opposites, neglect and overbearing/overdoing.
The things people do for their kids and the things Casey's mother did for her are not the same thing and that's why she felt like she could get away with anything. You're being purposely obtuse and all you "?????" makes you sound so frantic and defensive that i'm starting to wonder if you're a helicopter parent yourself lol
@Canned Bread so all evil psychopaths have been taught to be that way ??? it's called being wrong ! accept it !! some people let their minds drift into the wrong direction . see positive results and keep going with it . knowing it is wrong and then just cant stop !!! you would rather believe that her parents "taught " her to be that way !! like they wanted her to grow up to be a killer etc.. get real will ya !! let me guess if they never let her get away with anything ever and didnt spoil her at all !! you people would say "well her parents were too strict " gettoutahere !!
@Baby Summer I disagree, Id say all children can be manipulative while very young, maybe its a survival instinct, but its up to parents to teach children the right way to behave. You dont all of a sudden start teaching kids when their teenagers, it starts from when they are babies. The parents HAVE failed her - there is no doubt they love her but parenting doesnt just involve love. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, sometimes you have to endure the wrath of your child for your child to understand its for their own good. These parents, i think never did that, they always took the easy road.
@one world parenting can be tricky, children need to learn consequences of actions, this starts when they are little toddlers, it appears to me the parents loved their little daughter so much they failed to give her consequences of her actions. She just didnt turn into a liar when she graduated, shes been lying for years and years and the parents have allowed her to get away with it. I would not be surprised at all if she started lying to her parents at three and when caught she turned into the devil child and gave them hell... so eventually the parents turned a blind eye its just easier right? Dont upset the apple cart, meanwhile liar lives with no consequences and parents cover for her. You can tell her mother doesnt believe a word shes saying ever. Shes just that used to it. I wouldnt be surprised if her mother felt deep down, a dislike for her own child.
@Lalad De yes, you nailed it for sure. I totally agree with you. Children get taught right from wrong from a very very young age and they should be given consequences from a very young age. It appears to me her parents got wore down by her lies and the outbursts she would have had when caught they just found it easier to let her off.
@O Med They are responsible for the person she turned out to be. Casey is responsible for her actions. Thank your lucky stars YOUR parents didnt enable you... you probably experienced the consequences of your lies and learnt valuable lessons, unfortunately it appears Casey didnt, but also couple into that Casey probably has other issues like lack of empathy except for herself which i would say is on the narc spectrum not that im a dr.
@one world I think the point was that had she had some negative consequences for bad behaviour growing up, she might not have killed her kid because of fear of the repercussions. There are amoral people out there who need boundaries set for them or they will do whatever makes them happy without regard for anyone else. Her basic nature combined with the undisciplined style of nurture she received from her parents is what is being referred to here.
@Chewanashraf It depends what you are lying about and why. Sometimes lying is purely done to avoid an even deeper misery which would result. I can never be my most authentic self with my deeply religious parents and sister for example, because if I were they'd never accept it.
Well, maybe that gives weight to her claim that she was sexually abused by her father then, that she was able to get away with so much, like blackmail?
I can go one better. My nephew, who fits the clinical definition of a classic narcissist, "emancipated" himself and dropped out of high school when he was 18. He then proceeded to live on his mother's couch for the next year. At the end of the school year, when his class graduated from high school, his mother bought him a brand new STI. Un-fucking-amazing. Talk about rewarding failure.
@ALi yeah the parents don’t really bear any real blame other than the reinforcement of the lying behaviors. I doubt they were bad parents it’s probably more that they weren’t hard enough on her. She probably never was punished for the things she did. As a parent myself I can say it’s really hard to punish your children but you have to do it or you could help raise a horrible person.
"While refuting the prosection's supposed attempt to entice anger, he subtly attempts to evoke anger" Shouldn't it be "encouraging the notion of" instead of "refuting" in this sentence? Just wondering... becauce isn't "refute" to effectively prove something to be wrong?
She viewed her daughter as a burden. Just like when a fly keeps buzzing in your ear, and when you finally swat it away.. you are relieved. It's not really hard to understand. She removed her daughter from her life, admitted to her decision in her journal, and lived the life she desired free from the burden. There's absolutely no speculation there. The only speculation is how the murder was done..nonetheless, the child was murdered and she clearly had something to do with it. In any sensical conclusion, that is a reason to be locked up...for life.
that, and i think jealousy equally played into it. i think she was jealous of her daughter, and how much caseys parents loved her and loved on her. she despised that.
10:05 omg I love this punchline 😂😂😂 She wasnt a Event Coordinator but was selling Photos with Juliette Lewis on the Incredible Hulk ride instead 🤣🤣🤣 omg
Sorry I read that as psychological test. In this video I believe it said she had two and she was completely normal. When I look it up I find notes of psychiatrists who talked with her. So I don’t think they did a an actual psychopath test because she wasn’t found to need one based off the first tests she did (I think)
@A. Ducky that makes sense. When I look up stuff about it there’s articles about how she did this “without anything wrong with her” mentally I assume. Maybe if she got reevaluated they’d diagnose her differently
Oddly enough she did have a choice. She could have gave her parents full custody and I bet they wouldn’t have second guessed it. She never had to kill their grandchild for freedom
At first i was thinking that there should be a subtitle on this video to understand what she was saying in the interrogation room, and then realize all her lies makes me naaahhh...
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lil smurf2022-02-23 07:27:04 (edited 2022-02-23 07:27:48 )
She's sooo guilty No wonder why there are people declared her as the most hated woman in america
I feel sorry for her. It's sad that society and family pressures women into having children unprepared, and not being able to admit if it's not working out without being judged. It should be normalised to have the option to give up a child without stigma. It would save lives as well as emotional damage.
1:01:50 "the attorney evoked empathy and saved Casey's life"; - I don't think her life was ever in danger. She's a woman and therefore immune to most western law.
Sorry bud, that's not true. I'm a woman who lost in a divorce. You're not even gonna believe me when I tell you that I was leaving an abuser. But facts.
I truly don’t understand how defense attorneys can be so cold and lie like this when they fully know the truth. I don’t think Casey is the only sociopath in here.
Fully agree that it seems 'strange' to want to defend somebody who is (almost certainly) guilty, but everybody deserves a robust, professional defense of their position in a court of law. If we didn't have that it would essentially be a witch hunt.
Unfortunately alot of defence attorneys on high profile cases like this are extremely well paid, and therefore will go to almsot any level to get their client off/lenient judgements, including lying, or slander of the prosecuting witnesses.
The prosecution will use the same sort of trickery and persuasion to slam the defendant as hard as possible, justified or not. That's how our system works. The jury (or judge) has to decide what the evidence supports.
They're doing their job of defending a person, you can't argue with that. There's been plenty of occasions where the prosecution has lied to send innocent people to prison
The part that got me was the grandstanding to the media. They're lawyers, and it's their job to act on behalf of the client. That's our justice system, and as flawed as it might be, it's probably for the best that they have this duty. But don't then get up there and mug for the cameras afterwards and lecture the world about her innocence. THAT is what makes them a sociopath in my eyes.
If you listen to the defense attorney at the first opening statements he stuttered a couple of times...he was lying to himself about the lie that he was told to get charges dismissed.....he betrayed his own conscious because of what? A paycheck? I'm a Christian but those who argue the world revolves around money and sex is starting to become a statement I am going to live by. Sin rules the world....best believe it...
You obviously know nothing about how the Justice system works in a courtroom. I'm not saying they were right, but people are innocent until proven guilty. It shocks me that people still don't know this. Its not perfect but it's the only way to stop prosocuterial injustice. I'm not happy with the outcome but how do we figure out a better way. Enlighten me.
@TBSC50 There's a difference between defending a person and doing your darndest to make sure an obvious child murderer gets to be let loose on society again. Saying that it's their job isn't an argument. The guards and officials at Auschwitz were just doing their jobs as well, but surely no sane person would defend them, and for good reason. Obviously the world does indeed need lawyers to have a functioning judicial system, but a thick red line should be drawn between proper defense and knowingly fabricating alibis or favorable circumstances. Without that red line, without an actual commitment of all lawyers to work with the truth, rather than create their own, there is no denying that the profession is inherently immoral.
@TheLochs You obviously don't know that the statement "it's the only way to stop prosocuterial injustice'' makes no sense. The 'innocent until proven guilty' standard for the accused is just the starting point of our justice system. Innocent people still go to jail, and guilty people still get set free. Which also happens in other countries where instead guilt is assumed. And fyi it's spelled 'prosecutorial'. It shocks me that people don't know how to spell the big words that they use to try to sound smart and condescending towards others in internet comments. Don't I sound like an asshole? Well that's how you sound. Consider yourself enlightened.
You know prosecutors do the same thing to get a conviction right?? Literally lie about what someone did because they’re getting paid to put someone in jail?
I fully understand that prosecutors get payed for putting people in jail, and defense attorneys for doing the opposite REGARDLESS OF THE TRUTH. I put that in caps so you see how that’s an ethical dilemma and literally defeats the purpose of a justice system. I just simply wouldn’t be able to do that for any amount of money. I couldn’t live with that. However, they are not the only ones to blame on this case. Yes, the way that the defense attorney carried this case despite knowing the truth was despicable and inhuman, but he was far from being the only one at fault. The judge, and most importantly the jury carry the full weight of this injustice. There was more than enough evidence to at least put this woman behind bars for a long time, in my opinion she should’ve gotten the death sentence because what kind of animal murders their own child in such a gruesome way and has the guts to continuously lie about it. But is crazy! She didn’t even serve any time. Feels like white supremacy! If this was to be an immigrant we will be looking at a whole different story. I mean, we sentenced a Cuban truck driver to 110 years in prison over an accident! An accident!!! And this woman gets away with 1st degree murder because she was allegedly raped when she was a child? 😂. The justice system is a joke. And I am overwhelmed by the reactions about my comment. I thought it will go unseen basically.
@SquishyFishy Everyone deserves legal representation, you know that. If you were on trial, innocent or not, you'd want a defense attorney. It's how the legal system works...
You get paid to do your job, don't you? Everyone seems to think laywers are all evil, but that tune sure changes when you need legal help. You'd all want defense attorneys, regardless if you're innocent or guilty. Defense lawyers and prosecutors all get paid to represent the case in a certain light, and then it's up to jurors or judges to decide.
@Big Dre tell that to the little girl that was murdered by her own mother in the coldest way possible and now gets to enjoy life like nothing ever happened.
the defense attorney needs that money bruh, it’s not like they want to really defend an obviously guilty person. Like read the book “monster” or something and you can see how the defense attorney thinks
They’re just doing their jobs. It’s how the legal system works. And if they lose the case, this means they take a hit to their reliability as legal attorneys. It’s a role forced upon them by their professions.
I understand defense attorneys when they have to have someone who's clearly innocent, because it's their job. I cant imagine having to defend someone like Casey, but Jose Baez is just a poopy head because the fact he felt proud to defend Casey and smiles after she didn't go to jail was so cold.
It’s their job to defend people accused of crimes. It is a right for all Americans to have a defense lawyer and they are necessary to our judicial process.
A surgeon or doctor will heal and try to revive even known serial killers an murderers if they are sick. Why is it any different for a lawyer. The prosecutors and police focus on guilt and the lawyer focus on anything that points to innocence.
That isn’t the reason for a defence attorney. No matter what the circumstances, everybody deserves to be defended. Even tho we all know she did it. And all knew she did it and there was evidence. She deserves, as a human right, as a UNIVERSAL right to be defended
@McGuffin Doe it wouldn't take a brain surgeon to work out she's lying her attorney would have had all the case notes and he still took the case and defended her, yes it's the law that you are entitled to fair Council but surely the solicitors themselves can say what cases they will and won't take? How could you live with yourself knowing you help to child murderer I get away with it?
@Leah vapes86 I’ll explain how my father in law did (retired defense attorney)
To make a long story short, he told of a time where he had to defend someone he truly believed to be guilty and in the end that person spent 8 years in prison and was released upon the discovery of astronomically unlikely evidence that all but proved that client was innocent.
The reason I’d defend anybody and feel no guilt about securing a not-guilty verdict is that you truly never know. And it’s better for guilty to go free than for innocent to be condemned
well the system followed is "innocent until proven guilty" and no matter how obvious it is that a person has committed a crime they are innocent until there is evidence against them that goes beyond reasonable doubt so technically the defence attorneys were defending someone innocent. besides defending the accused is literally their job cos (again) the person they are defending is assumed to be absolutely innocent (and no I am not defending Casey im defending the statement of the defence attorneys being sociopaths and cold liars) and here I would actually argue that the prosecutors didn't do their best and were half-assed cos honestly even I thought she was going to get convicted cos its so bloody obvious but if you see the opening and closing statement of the defence, the way they engaged with the jury was something pretty well done. Other than this I am assuming Casey did not confess the crime to her defence because if she had the defence is duty-bound to withdraw the case as they know the accused will lie on the stand (I think this is what they follow in the US im not entirely sure though as I haven't studies US Law heck im not even from there and sorry if this got too long im actually looking to be a lawyer-not criminal but a lawyer nonetheless- and your statement kinda hit me cos im literally looking at that profession as my literal future so yeah sorry. defence attorneys aren't bad people at all like imagine a situation where there was incriminating evidence against you and there was no other suspect at all and you had nothing to do with the crime but you were still accused for it what do you plan to do? Do the people you hire to defend you from any punishment on the planet seem like cold liars and sociopaths at this point too?)
@TBSC50 There's "Robust Defense" and then there's "Make up a completely false scenario to avoid having to defend your client on the facts of the case in front of you"
I do wonder whether or not they knew that it was all a lie or if it's some shit Casey fed them convincingly. Even with that story it simply doesn't add up why the alleged murderer according to their entire scenario would call then call the police in a panic about her missing grandchild, or why almost literally every witness in the case testifying or providing statements to the police about the whereabouts of the various fake people would countermand basic facts she didn't need to lie about like the fake babysitter, her coworkers, her job history, etc.
Attorney is forced to believe their client and speak the truth from their client perspective with supporting evidence. Can't blame them when it's literally their job.
They have to provide the best defense for their client without passion or prejudice It keeps many innocent people out of jail but very sadly sometimes keeps the right one out
The defense attorney HAS TO defend her, even if he also knows 100% she is guilty. He has to make it hard for the prosecution, otherwise the whole justice system fails.
The defense has to have bias towards the one they are defending. Its the only way where a true innocent who is accused of something he/she did not do has a chance of getting justice despite all arrows and odds are aganist him/her for some reason. Of course, this system is far from perfect and open to abuse like this case...
Everyone has the right to an attorney. He's only trying to do his job--to do anything else is unjust. It is their profession, to do whatever they can, in the limitations of the law, to prove their client innocent, just as well as the prosecution does whatever they can to prove that they are guilty. It's just the basic premise of the law system. It works.
You’re misunderstanding the point of the defense attorney. Their only role is to provide the best possible defense for their client. If Casey wants to go a certain direction “not guilty because I didn’t do it”, and makes fictitious claims to support it; the defense attorney is obligated to assist. The defense attorney can’t be against their client, they cannot in any way fault their client. If your attorney was willing to stab a knife in your back and tank your case, would you hire him?
no seriously and anybody talking about money, and it’s their job, or it would be “unfair” if no one defended her are weird themselves bc no amount of money should be able to make you okay with someone MURDERING THEIR OWN CHILD
like no one is missing the point at all… the point is he’s a bad person !!! i simply would not have taken this case or requested to be taken off the case by the judge, he’s not a public defender and even if he was, he can still request to be taken off the case
The attorney isn’t lying, he’s trying to prove that there is reason to doubt. Knowingly lying would disbar the lawyer. That being said, google the mental toll that it takes on attorneys to defend a client that they know is guilty because most of them are more than likely trying to fight for the innocent.
I fully understand your point but everyone deserves to have “their side of the story” shown in the courtroom, including the most dreadful human beings. The attorneys are doing their job, showing her POV which is her right as a human being in court, can we please stop dehumanizing people who are doing their job for the better or worse (ie ether helping someone who’s innocent to prove that they’re innocent or to show the criminals POV to get a suitable sentence)
@冬 The thing is... she couldn't afford him as a lawyer so she bribed him with... favors. You can find online what she did as I'm sure you can guess. He eventually told her to stop and told the press that she confessed to it resulting in him leaving the law field. You can find more out about it online
That is his job. You'll want him on your side if you need it one day. Obviously you don't get it because you're probably a good person. But if you are wrongly accused, you'd still want him on your side.
@Kryyn the Meeks Again, there's a difference between defending someone who you actually think didn't murder their daughter, and making shit up just to give them plausible deniability. The latter is inherently immoral, regardless of whether or not it's your job.
@Jacqueline Saldarriaga Don't be naive. Most of them believe in money first and foremost. The sad truth is that defense attorneys will do anything to make sure their clients get off scot-free, regardless of whether they know for a fact that they're guilty.
That is their job, and it is absolutely necessary. If a defense attorney does not do everything they can to defend their client, within the boundaries of the law of course, then a mistrial is imminent. So understand it, and understand it well. And like it. Without the best defense possible, ALL criminals ever convicted would be set free. The alternative is just convicting people without any sort of defense, which of course leads to wrongful convictions more often than not. So sure, sometimes one gets away. But more often than not we get the right bad guy for what they did. Our system is intentionally imperfect. And believe me, you do NOT want a perfect judicial system. 100% conviction rate? Do you even understand what that means? Yeah, that is a bad thing.
@PackTheBud That's not true. The defense attorney should have convinced Casey to plead guilty. Since he knows she did it. The Defense Attorney for Shelia Eddy convinced Shelia to plea guilty. He could have made up some bs about Shelia being molested as a child or that Skylar drowned in a lake. But he didn't. He did the right thing.
Honestly you need to steelman your defendant, no matter how abhorrent they may appear, just so we can be as sure as possible when they get a guilty verdict, that it's the correct verdict. In cases like this, it's easy to scoff at defence attorneys as it's blindingly clear to everyone involved from the get to. But it's not the attorneys position to be the judge of their client. That's the judges job. Otherwise we enter a weird position where defence attorneys could tank their clients just because. It sounds weird, but remember there are a lot of extremely racist people out there. Is it hard to imagine that a defence attorney could be one, and just say "He did it" rather than give a defence to any black clients they're assigned?
It's a difficult job, but everyone deserves their case to be as strong as possible. Not to protect the guilty, but rather to protect the innocent from being wrongfully imprisoned.
This is what happens when parents don't instill right from wrong in their kids. All the kids think about is another way to manipulate their parents and authority figures. Stop calling her sweetie and start demanding respect from this brat. The little girl was probably getting more attention than she was, so she had to get that attention back on her. Even though it is negative attention. Lock her up in a cell with absolutely no other human contact and see if she suddenly lets go of the information leading to what she did with that poor little girl. After being lead down multiple wild goose chases and being caught in line after lie, alternative means need to be used to force this brat to come clean. They are treating her way to nice. She knows she can continue to do this, because they keep allowing it. Put her in a straight jacket, in a padded room by herself, and see how quickly she spills. No getting out or social activity until they check out everything she tells them, and they find the child. It's tough love time! I don't think she is crazy. I think she is manipulative. And she will keep this up forever as long as she is allowed to get away with it!
Yea I can’t watch this one. It’s just gonna make me angry remembering this case on the news and Nancy Grace. She would not stop milking this story for views.
"I didn't really wana come home I wasn't sure what I was gonna SAY about not knowing where Caylee was.................." WTF not I didn't want to come home without finding/knowing what happened to my BABYGIRL
Far too much pandering to this woman, everybody treated her like a princess and this always made her comfortable as she had been in princess mode her whole life, if this was a 22 year old black male in the same shoes it can be rest assured the situation would be a whole lot different, SWF getting the softly softly touch from the cops.
The Casey Anthony case shows how imperfect our legal system is here in the US. Guilty people get off daily on technicalities and jury incompetence while nnocent people occasionally get locked up because they can’t afford sufficiently competent counsel. The prosecution in this case dropped the ball. They were more concerned with character assassination to win their case.
Not imperfect, they truely couldn't prove that she murdered her child. Unfortunately if you want freedom, you have to make sacrifices. And fortunately you can't be locked up over speculation if the jury can be convinced that way. Keep in mind I'm heated that this chick is still living and should really be rotting in prison.
yea but those are there not for the guilty but they were put in place so yjag the innocent have the best of shots now through that there's loop holes but I'd rather have a guilty person on the street and innocent man or women in jail because in theory one could keep working on putting the guilty back in court iknow they didnt here but I'm js no legal system can be perfect
Why? Thats not our justice system. Thats a shitty prosecutor. This case proves that the system works. It means no matter what public opinion says, you need to prove someone committed a crime without a doubt. There are tons of recent examples of how our justice system is starting to fail but this isn't one of them.
@Kun Lee You're right. I was only considering the injustice of her getting off with only a charge of lying to the police. I didn't really consider that it was entirely the prosecutors fault since he didn't prosecute her for charges that he can actually prove. Changed my mind about this
Unfortunately there will never be a perfect system, and even tho we all agree and know she’s guilty the court cannot prosecute her based on feelings and assumptions. Iam with you guys I believe she guilty but we can’t and shouldn’t prosecute her on our assumptions or feelings , because on the flip side as history as shown there been many cases were people have been accused and looked guilty as hell / everybody without doubt believes they r guilty and later down the road was proven innocent. How many times the jury was 97 % certain and that 3 % by chance was the actual reality. It is that reason is why we have to go by the guidelines.
I disagree, the justice system worked perfectly in this situation. The evidence pointed to her being a horrible mother, but it didn’t prove that she was responsible for her daughters death beyond a reasonable doubt. The prosecution focused on denouncing her character rather than using physical evidence to prove their case, now that’s mainly because there was barely any physical evidence. Now of course I’m not saying the justice system is fool proof, for example OJ got away with a double homicide because he had a good character, he was likable and famous. Even though the evidence clearly pointed towards his guilt. Casey Anthony obviously murdered her daughter, but they couldn’t prove she did, if people were sent to jail because the juries believed that the défendent “obviously” committed the crime because of the character of the défendent or the circumstances than people would be wrongly imprisoned at a much higher rate
@Turkeylegs I’m sure if this case happened today she would’ve been found guilty, but our courts would then become a kangaroo court without many realizing
i always taught this American jury thing is bullshit. how can regular people who know nothing about law judge cases like this.. i don't care if half of tham were doctor, teachers, engineers or astronauts.. there are not lawyers or judges. jury should be made of people who are trained in law.. this is stupid
@MicahDude idk about the justice system, but JCS has a video detailing how Canadian detectives/behavioural Psychologists are probably the best in the world based on how their interact and siphon information from suspects.
@magno172 Yes those are really good. Its the justice system itself thats bad. A detective could rock an interrogation like with Rafferty, but then the Justice might end up letting him off bc of reasonable doubt. but i agree that the investigators are really good
@goofy dood Like the guy said, we could sit here all day and come up with what might have happened or what we think happened but that isn't proof of anything. Speculation does not mean much.
@goofy dood Casey's journal. Her internet search history. Her car's smell. The fact that she was the last person seen with Caylee. There was evidence and if they had continued looking they would've found more. But I agree. If the prosecutors had focused more on finding evidence and less on attacking Casey's character I think they'd have taken the case easily.
I get why she was found not guilty. As a juror, would you rather believe the child drowned and her abused mother didn't know how to process it, or that a woman who grew up loved & nurtured googled how to kill her kid then went to Blockbuster
god, I remember walking by the TV every day with my mom watching that trial. drove me fuckin nuts. Casey Anthony was like the hottest chick I saw every day for a good minute. was true for a lot people. pathological liars are amazing. I've met a few in my life, the first one in the psychiatric hospital. Psychopathy too and all that tho, don't think I've ever kept company with a psychopath. I have seen kids my age with kids Caylee's age. They call that neglect I guess. yeah, casey anthony is hot tho.
"Zanny" the Nanny.... Hmmmm... "Xanny" is slang for Xanax, which is probably what Cassie gave that poor little girl to make her sleep... That poor, sweet little girl.
First, these videos are way too long and really could be edited down a lot. I admit that I skipped over parts.
I'm a retired attorney and although many hate the defense lawyer, we are ethically bound to represent our client to the best as we can under the law. He did a good job obviously. Factually, no one is happy about this case. Did she kill her daughter? Probably. But the criminal standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt." Percentage wise think of it somewhere around 66% - 75%. There can be some doubt, but by far you must believe the person to be guilty.
All they really have in this case is that she lied to the police and the damning web searches she did. They also tried to smear her personality and paint her as a party girl. Fine. All that is circumstantial. They don't have anything that links her directly to the crime. The charge is that she murdered her daughter, not that she lied to the police. Police lie to you and you are allowed to lie back to them. You are not under oath but as they warn you, what you say can be used against you. There is no law that says you must tell the truth to police (except a Federal law for the FBI). (I also question whether the videos of police interrogations were even admissible. Was she told of her Miranda rights at in the first one? In the second one after they arrested her for murder, she requested to speak to her attorney. Once that is invoked police cannot say another word to her. But in the video on the second interrogation he clearly said she is waiting for her attorney. If that is true then none of that is admissible. So it is even possible the police couldn't even introduce the interrogations as evidence and the jury never saw those).
90% of people arrested plead guilty to a lesser charge. Of the 10% that go to trial the prosecution wins 90% of the time. From my experience most prosecutors are not very good attorneys and often are arrogant because they win so easily. It is only in high profile cases like this that they actually have to work and are held to what the legal standard really should be. Just like the OJ Simpson case, chalk this up to a strong defense and, as the video states, overconfidence by the police and prosecutors.
Her lies are exhausting. Why did she not get ANY charge ? Why is this not being questioned? How could we live in a world that u could get away with this ?
Caylee's Law is being proposed and even passed in some states. It is now a felony (in passed states) for a parent or legal guardian to delay/fail to report their missing child.
@So J Sung the fact that they need to write some legislative crap to make that illegal is a joke...Even the goddamn Vikings saw a reluctance to report a crime of any kind after a few days as an admission of guilt.
@NotsoJoe Rogan i mean, if someone has a child and they do missing wouldnt that look suspicious asf? Is not about making laws just bcs yes its abt having a Brain like u Said👍😁
When she called her house and her bestfriend started crying because she was worried about her daughter, and her reaction was along the lines of "wow I called for nothing" you could see how much of a horrible person she truly is. I'm petrified that to this day she walks free and isn't paying the consequences of her actions
That part, and the part where the mom said “The whole world is looking for her” and she literally sounded like that was a bother to her. Smh. She is a horrible human.
@bob builder You keep complaining about women under every other comment I read, get off reddit and touch some grass maybe then you'll get a girlfriend lmao
@dead meme u know women say kill all men I’m simply applying the same logic I know 100s of strong women who wouldn’t do this, but I hope she sees this bro even tho u 100% get cheated on
I don't understand how the jury could have been LITERALLY SHOWN a picture of Caylee's skull WRAPPED IN DUCT TAPE and still be able to rule Casey not guilty, but either way–if Caylee drowned in a pool or was suffocated–it is undeniably her mother's fault that she is dead. There is no way you could leave a literal 2 year old alone in a pool long enough to drown without being just a straight up neglectful parent, but lets give her the benefit of the doubt and say Casey became essentially a vegetable long enough for Caylee to drown in their pool. So, once Casey regains sentience and discovers her daughter's dead body, she decides that instead of calling 911 or even her parents or her friend Christina(who clearly cared more about Caylee than her own mother did), she's going to wrap her daughter's face in duct tape, wrap her body in a blanket, store her body in the trunk of her car long enough for it to start to smell, all before finally dumping this little girl's body in a fucking swamp of all places and THEN she has the AUDACITY to go clubbing. I can't believe she gets to walk free when others have been executed for far less.
@Grisel Calcagno Dunno when but I believe Supreme Court ruled the charge of abandonment of a corpse violates right of self incrimination. But ya some type of charge should of happened I mean that Oklahoma cop accused of rape had like 30 different counts against him he wasn’t found guilty on all but you know the tactic was shotgun charges out there hopefully something sticks.
Its that last part for me. Others have been executed for less and oftentimes as Falsely convicted!!! All the evidence was right there... yet she gets to walk free
My cousin (I haven’t talked to her in 10+ years) had an infant who somehow managed to get into a neighbors pool and drown. She wasn’t even the one to find him, it was the neighbors. Talk about horrifying and heartbreaking. She got her other two kids taken away and that was it, AFAIK. I don’t really know her and she’s the trash part of the family, but I know she was never under investigation. I don’t think she purposely killed him, but there was definitely negligence going on. I have no faith in the system protecting children.
People morn differently, and Casey is obviously a very private person, but yeah, it's strange to duct tape your child if you've found them dead, unless Casey didn't drown her child. You can argue she was callous about how to probably bury her child, but there is no evidence that Casey did it. Anyone else in Casey's life could have done it, but you're right, she could be twirling her mustache giggling to herself "Those idiots, I totally got away with murdering my child, now I can go back to partying", but unless there is a recording of her saying this, the truth of the matter is; nobody really knows.
@dustyak79 You make a painful point - society cannot dictate the objective truth, but it can make hell for anyone it opposses for any reason, and it doesn't matter if it's right or not.
@dustyak79 literally why do y’all love brining up getting held accountable for RACISM as a gotcha moment? it’s weird... anyone should know not to use slurs at the age of 8-10
Without relating it to the case: I have given swimming lessons to kids in the past and you would be surprised as to how little time it takes for a kid to start drowning. I've had kids going underneath the surface within 5 seconds of looking away. Also if it might safe a live someday: people drowning don't make as much noise as you might expect. its not like the movies. It can happen rather quietly. rule of thumb when it comes to kids: don't worry if you can hear them, worry if they are silent
@Kat C because it doesnt make you a terrible person. you're young and you will learn. no reason to have your life made harder permanently, or even short term. if it was, alllll black people would never have any respect even from other black people, but being so openly prejudice and racist against white people from birth. the exact opposite of what Martin Luther King was meaning in his speeches!
@ronnie millsap you should not be able to work about people of color if you have ever seen them as less than by using a slur... that is absolutely ridiculous you should have your life ruined for being that vile towards another human bc of their skin. there is absolutely no justifying that. period.
@Kat C Do you also apply this to black people who are racist against white people? Because if you did there would be very few blacks whose lives would not be ruined judging by that criteria. Or, let me guess, something something white people have societal power so their words are somehow magically worse. Because white people are definitely the ones with societal power when their racism gets their lives destroyed and black people racism gets them no such repercussions. That's definitely biased in favor of whites, right?
@ronnie millsap Let me give you a news flash: Evidence =/= proof
Without a confession, and proof, there is nothing the justice system can do. For once, the system actually did what was right, given how little evidence they found to criminalize Casey.
@Lurk Snitchtongue what are examples of black peoples being racist? like actually racist to the point where it effects white people place/ranking in society. black people can be prejudiced toward white people but they cannot be racist bc black people do not hold societal power over white people. but i know you won’t agree i’m not really looking to have a dialogue w someone like you lmao
@Lurk Snitchtongue also lets say black people can be racist and not just prejudiced.... why would you use black people being “racist” as a gotcha moment instead of condemning both white and black people for being racist... clearly you don’t actually care about white peoples experiencing “racism” from black people
she doesnt care about anyone but herself... even ran her Dad's reputation through the mud just to save herself... she is indeed the worst kind of human being there exist.
@Tomáš L. Everyone is entitled to a defence... but the fact that its the person who can best play on the emotions of the jury wins, is a despicable idea, the evidence was damning, not 100% conclusive, but without any other given alternative, the reasonable doubt argument should've been rendered moot... If the child died in a swimming pool and was disposed of... you need to prove this... where is the beyond reasonable doubt here? The defence had no evidence, just speculation... The fact to make a decision not out of feeling sorry or out of anger was not used here, the attorney used the Jury's emotions of feeling sorry to persuade their decision... So immoral. And even if the child had drowned, the charge for negligence should still have been present... she admitted to at minimum, disposing of her child who died due to negligence... yet not guilty period? What a damn joke...
But... she lied about where her daughter was and gave false clues to the police? Isn't that illegal, at least? The jury system in America is INSANE. Disgusting. Her poor parents.
Yes it's illegal, and she was found guilty of that. The most she could get was 4 years and she had already served 3 while she was waiting for trial, so she was sentenced to time served.
Too right... we have people arguing over whether it was the jury's fault or the prosecution's fault and I'm over here like, WHY exactly do we force ordinary citizens with little to no education in law or criminal psychology to make life changing decisions in a court of law to begin with?
@HaY4t0 the point of the jury is to limit false convictions as much as possible. You have multiple people coming to a decision instead of just one (the judge). Ofc it’s not perfect because of cases like this, but other systems allow judges to have too much power and their personal biases can ruin an innocent person’s life. But also, judges DO have the power to overrule the jury if they think they’re decision is unreasonable, which the judge chose not to do.
@urahairymonster I understand the purpose of a jury. What I don't understand is why jurors aren't required to be versed in law and criminal psychology. Wouldn't such a jury be even more accurate and less easily swayed by emotions? I mean Casey Anthony's entire defense was nothing but emotional manipulation and it still got her acquitted! How is that justice??
@HaY4t0 because they’re supposed to be your peers, not academics. Someone being versed in law of criminal psychology won’t rid them of bias anyways. But each team (defense and prosecution) has to select and agree on each juror. It seems like the prosecution was too lenient to the defense in this case. But I can’t think of any criminal justice system that is without flaw.
People, the daughter inherited it somewhere, she wouldn't just invented her rooted deception skill without witnessing examples, and being nurtured that way, even if accidentally. If my mom and dad were curious about my daughter's death and me being the suspect, they will squeeze truth out of me in any way possible, with bonus of anger coz they know who I am. Plus, they tend to love grandchild more...
@ice la honk I'm thinking they can know that she is a liar at certain occasions and "forget it" at others, maybe in the end they believed her, but at that moment in the interview it did seem she was doubting her and even wanted to confront it.
Just want to point out that they aren’t on opposite sides of glass. Each are sitting in front of a monitor with a camera. They aren’t sitting directly across from each other.
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Gryll The Onion2021-01-11 17:13:25 (edited 2021-01-11 17:15:35 )
@Brenda Faithful Did you know that if parents are strict about a certain topic, their child will do everything they can to go against it? It's common in many households. For example, if the parents of a young teenage daughter are against skimpy clothing, she will always try to wear it behind the parents back. Children get kicks out of doing bad things. Not every child does this, but usually the middle child tends to be more problematic than the first since they are not in the spotlight. The middle child will do anything to get their parent's attention, even if they end up breaking the rules.
@Gryll The Onion especially since she says her ex-husband HURT her when she was a toddler?? How can you expect to be raised normal when you don’t get help even when you were raised in a “moral household”. She really can’t claim her daughter was raised in a moral household if she was hurt by her father or father figure.
@Brenda Faithful well I think you have your answer. She was hurt as a toddler???? From what you said I can tell you didn’t know this happened but obviously this behavior didn’t come out of nowhere. Her changing when she became a teenager could mean she remembered something traumatic happened to her could could have finally realized something happened to her that shouldn’t have and would explain the switch. My sister has behavior issues but we just recently found out she was molested and she only JUST realized how that was not supposed to happen when she got a bit older. All we can do for family like this is get them HELP. Everyone is a product of their environment even if what they learned isn’t from you specifically.
@McKenzie Ross Good point! I glanced over the comment and didn't get to that part. A toddler that was abused at a young age will not act "normal" even if they were raised in a "morally right" household. Also, we don't even know what morals they believe in, so this household might not even be so great in the first place. However, since I don't live there and don't know the daughter or parents personally, I conclude my statement. Good point, though. 👍
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Brenda Faithful2021-01-12 04:25:24 (edited 2021-01-12 04:31:45 )
@McKenzie Ross yes! You are right! There was a couple times when my husband came home and I would take a shower sometimes when he got home because it also gave me a break from her as I was a full time Mom. But at those couple times she was banging on the bathroom door screaming for me. I didn't get it? So, I got out of the shower because she was acting so scared and like something was wrong. So, I opened up the door and she was rt in front of me and finally happy I was there. Then, I asked my husband what was going on and he said he didn't know and that he was just sitting on the couch watching TV which he was. So, I was really baffled. I seperated and then my Mom volunteered to take my daughter and I let her as I went back 14 hours away to try and work things out with my husband and it wasn't until later that my Mom noticed odd behavior from her in the tub. Brought her to a sexual assault center and at just under 3 years old.... I got to see her hang her little head and say her Daddy touched her. What the heck? The last thing I would have ever thought and he was a former cop too. Big time into porn. It was horrible!! My poor poor daughter!! She's the one that lost her last born little boy on the day she was seperated from her husband and she was in the same river as her little boy but in a different spot. The dad apparently fell asleep and the 2 younger boys left and walked down to the river and only one came back. She was just sick knowing she was in the same river. She's just broken into pieces and tried commiting suicide and also was diagnosed RAD as a child. It's alot like borderline personality disorder. I hurt deeply for her and sooooo wished I could reverse time!
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Brenda Faithful2021-01-12 04:44:45 (edited 2021-01-12 06:37:35 )
@Gryll The Onion I would have the same opinion if I was in your shoes. Bless you. Yes, a little background on my family and I. I was a single Mom for about 17 years before I decided to even start dating. No men came home and the boys in the house were my 2 male cats. Lol. I am a Christian and was raised with Missionaries to Russia. I was careful what was allowed to be watched on TV and who they were allowed to be alone with...people's houses, etc. I've been a Mother hen over my babies. My parents did a lot of volunteer work at church and in the area and also were Marriage Counselors. My mom worked for a division of CPS because her heart went out to abused kids. My home was always open to other kids that needed a safe place to go as long as they obeyed the rules of the house. There was alot of love at my house and I've taken 2 parenting courses. One called: Growing kids God's way thru my church. The other was Love and Logic. I read parenting books and still have a few. I'll tell ya... nothing better than being a Mom. I saw so many kids that their parents didn't want them around and or was absent. My home was open... They all knew they were welcome to any food in the fridge and that our home was inviting, warm and safe. Now, I didn't have to explain all that.... But decided to. I am 49 today and was at a clients house today and saw 2 little pictures her Grandkids drew for them. My goodness!! Those little cuties! My heart just melted!! I was very fortunate as a single mom....my job didn't keep me all day and I was usually home by the time school was out and what a blessing that was. A day the park and zoo was a favorite for us! We also lived in the Country and my clients were in the city.... But, I dedicated my time to go to work, come home, pick up my daughter's and bring them 2 times a week to swim and gymnastics and then go back home and shower and go to bed. Bless you.. ❤️
God yous are so sick 😂😂😂😂 blaming her parents. When Infact her mother was the one who alerted police. Yous seriously need a reality check. Get a grip guys..... Holy shit.
They threw a fake party big deal, not the best thing to do in the world I get that.
But to blame any off these parents in this situation is dumb.
Casey: “She drowned accidentally. Then I ducked taped her mouth shut and threw her in a swamp.” Investigator: “that doesn’t make any...” Casey: “uh-huh.” Investigator: “...sense”
Right?! As soon as the Defense said her child DROWNED in a family pool... well, wtf was the Duct Tape for?! Why dump her in a swap, in a bag? This jury is what is wrong with the legal system. I wish the Judge could have override their obvious mistake!
@Chocolate Thunder to repent of your sins means that you change your way of thinking. For example: if you watch porn & maaturbate you stop doing it bc you know it’s bad for your mind & God doesn’t like it. The only thing God wants is a genuine relationship with you. He loves you very much and it’s an incredible journey. God bless you all. If you have any q’s lmk.
@lol i have a q, i accidentally got white love juice on my bible pages and they are now stuck together. How can i open them without ripping? The crucifixion's my fav to climax to 😔
@Stephen Grigg interesting that that was your take home from this video. Not the baby killing mother, but the mispronunciation of a type of tape. Where you on the jury by chance?
Didn't matter. Baez picked a really stupid jury, and then made up absurd theories. At the very least that should ahve been a hung jury, but that jury wanted out of there because they were trying to make book deals and interviews while inside during the trial.
The very few interviews they had, they clearly didn't understand the concept of reasonable doubt. They more, or less acquitted her because they didn't knwo what the motive was. Mom lied on the stand. Baez made up some asinine stories that the evidence showed wasn't true.
Just the fact she waited a MONTH to call the police after she went "missing" and her car smelling like a dead body would ahve been a case closed for me.
@Stephen Grigg no, it's not a joke. Looking it up I just learned it was actually called duck tape because of the materials it's made out of and preceded "duct tape". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape
You can't scroll through many comments without running into some that seen like they were made by bots doing some cultists proselytizing. The posts are always non sequitur and empty drivel.
@Kara Kerley Beat me to it lol. Granted, I used to call it "Duck Tape" because as a kid I saw the tape my dad used and it had a duck as the mascot on the packaging. I don't remember the brand name, but don't think it was the actual brand name called Duck Tape.
Kim Foster2021-05-28 04:27:59 (edited 2021-05-28 04:32:41 )
Ya I don't get how they won that case?? If she drowned and everyone in the family new but hid the fact of the drowning to police and everyone, wouldn't they all be in trouble???? This case ruling will never make sense to me. What about all the lies, what about the tattoo, and the journal entry. Those were proof she was happy while her daughter was dead. I get so angry every time I see that disgusting B's face.
Me: Even though she lied so much when she didn’t have to? And she mislead the police so well and is showing narcissistic behavior. An investigator asked her if she was “telling anything that’s untrue” and she replied “No sir”.
@Sandy Loraine I hope you’re not saying her parents did it and she’s covering it up? She was willing to throw them under the bus and pretend her dad was assaulting her I doubttttt she’d cover up then actually killing her kid she’d jump on that so quick.
@aliceee God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
@🥀Vampiraa🥀 God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
@aliceee I don't think that concept will compute for her. But if it's any consolation we will be spared having to deal with an afterlife that is filled with people like that.
@olivia grace Its funny how many rapists, murderers, kidnappers, assaulters, and generally terrible people seem to echo that exact sentiment. Almost like they are using it as a replacement for morality and critical thought, and especially consequences. But hey, that's just what I see! ;)
Casey actually wanted an abortion when she found out she was pregnant with Caylee but her parents refused to let her abort Caylee. Not defending her, but maybe if her parents had let her get the abortion like she wanted none of this would have happened. Casey never wanted to have a child from the get go
@Hell Star Her parents forced her to keep the baby, she was pressured into something she didn't want. That doesn't change the fact that she took her own daughter's life though
@Lost Shadow her parents CANNOT force her to keep a baby when she is a legal adult with full legal rights over her body...that’s literally just a fact. No matter what they said how they pressured her SHE HAD THE CHOICE, and SHE CHOSE to keep it because they literally cannot force her to keep it they have zero say. So it doesn’t matter if she CHOSE to keep the baby due to pressure from her parents, it was still her choice. That’s literally just a fact they did not force her because they legally have no say, she is fully responsible for giving into whatever pressure they put on her because it was her choice to make and keeping it was the choice SHE made and SHE made alone
@Lost Shadow like I just don’t get how anyone can say she was forced to do anything...they didn’t hold her hostage they didn’t hold a gun to her head the worst that happened was them saying we won’t financially support you or be in your life and she’s the one that said wow don’t want that to happen so I’ll keep it. That’s not being forced to keep it it’s just being put in a hard decision that’s still fully her decision and her decision only
@MsLouisez okay but when your baby needs to be found you lead them on a wild goose chase, get pissed at people asking questions, and instead of looking you’re out partying? Come on that’s suspicious and definitely points to murder not an accident.
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R M2021-01-24 17:51:23 (edited 2021-01-24 17:51:46 )
Casey: says literally any name Screen pauses JCS: this person does not exist
Attention: Xanax is no effective substitute for a real babysitter. Please consult your doctor if you are imagining random suspects during pending investigations.
The real juliette Lewis should sue casey for defimation of character. I mean how insulting, a top Holywood actress to be degraded to working behind a photobooth at a theme park lol
@I'm bored I have an ex girlfriend that is a pathological liar that would even lie about what she ate for breakfast that morning. They sound incredibly believable unless you are actually there to see what actually happened(in this case, seeing what they ate in the morning)
@I'm bored Dude she killed a baby, all the evidence points to the, the only person who could’ve benefitted from that was casey, all her stories were lies, the way she speaks is exactly how a pathological liar would. SHE WAITED FOR 5 WEEKS BEFORE ANYONE BUT SHE KNEW THAT CASEY WAS MISSING FFS. YOU ARE ACTUALLY SUPPORTING A BABY KILLER WHO LIED HER ENTIRE LIFE.
I love seeing everyone attack young broccolini simply because he stated there was no evidence and he watched the whole trial. So did I! There was no evidence she killed her child... it's great that youtubers have the comment sections to exact their judgment on a woman they dont even know. The media and justice system absolutely wasted her time. They found her guilty right away and then did everything to hold that view and project it on ignorant america.
@Aditya 999 doesn’t matter what they thought, the physical evidence to connect the “mother” to the murder matters and there was none. Plus the defense was pretty genius (in a morbid way, but that’s his job and props to him)
@Total Badger Jesus man, shes guilty,its very clear even though they don’t have direct evidence, the evidence they have is overwhelming. No human in their right mind would not inform the police after their baby was missing and have a car that smells like a dead body. And even after going to the police lie about everything.
@Aditya 999 hold up boy, just because policing is shitty beyond reckoning doesn’t mean baby killers are now excused lmao. Obviously the justice system failed here, and tbh Casey’s whiteness probably helped. Doesn’t change the fact that ACAB
@Aditya 999 boy I’m not arguing, just dispelling your ridiculous comment that ACAB and another comment about inconclusive evidence in the Casey Anthony trial are somehow related. Damn, work that brain out my guy
@Dj Trig wait, did you call acab is ridiculous when you supported it in your previous comment, or cant you just write straight? Either way i do agree that acab is ridiculous. and what about the comment that i replied to a guy saying that there wasn’t enough evidence?
@Alex Richmond no it doesn't mean her birth mother. It means her mother with emphasis on mother to highlight the should -be close and important relationship between mother and daughter (which is absent here)
Isn't it crazy how everybody is worried about her daughter - except Casey herself!
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David Engelman2021-06-29 00:56:10 (edited 2021-06-29 00:59:08 )
Although I do think she did it you can't prosecute her unless you're absolutely beyond a doubt 100% sure if you're 99% sure that that means one out of 100 people are innocent in jail in prison you have to be 100% sure beyond the shadow of a doubt proven you can't be 99% sure it doesn't work that way p.s. I'm only halfway through the video at this point but there are slips like you've been a great dad you've been a great grandfather not that you are a great father a great grandfather you are a great grandfather little slips like that lead me to believe she did it she has inside knowledge
@David Engelman That’s not how that works at all... 99% certainty is more than enough for a conviction. The correct phrase you’re looking for is “proof beyond a reasonable doubt” ...meaning proof that is close to an absolute certainty. But it doesn’t have to be 100%. If you actually needed 100% certainty for every single crime committed, sooo many people would get away with murder- because a lot of the time the only witness was the dead victim, so unless the suspect straight up confesses (which they rarely ever do), technically you’ll never be able to 100% confirm it. So would you rather a killer walk free without consequence on a 1% chance they didn’t do it? No. If it seems far more likely than not that a person has committed a horrendous crime, like with this case, they should absolutely be locked up. To do otherwise would be negligent and dangerous, to let someone who is almost certainly a child murderer run loose (and potentially take another innocent life in the future)
@Blue I actually have to agree with David on this one. You can't incarcerate someone unless you're absolutely certain, like, 100% certain, not 99%, because that's still a 1% chance of incarcerating an innocent person.
It happens too often. The court is so sure that someone has committed a crime, only to lock them up for decades before finally abjuring the case.
Her defense attorney... Christ I'd want him on my side if I killed someone, he'd spin a story of how I'd been gangbanged by aliens when I was 17 and sent back in time 5 years and my fingerprints and DNA at the crime scene are actually from a different timeline where I didn't get abducted.
He''s fucking good. On the one hand, it's really unsettling to see someone so smart, charismatic, and eloquent tell a story he knows is utterly false as if it's gospel truth. On the other hand he's kind of doing a service for justice in the long run by really pushing the prosecution to overcome his performance, and hopefully the additional technologies and capacity to collect and evaluate physical evidence will rise to the challenge.
Yeah he’s definitely good at what he does, and plays a necessary part in the legal system (however flawed it may or may not be). But seeing this kind of stuff makes me extremely hesitant to trust attorneys of any kind.
Yep, he is forcing the prosecution to prove, without a shred of doubt, that she is guilty. Does it suck that she is obviously guilty using common sense? Yes, but he is still a good lawyer.
I bet you he even fed her the idea of being molested as a child without exactly even saying it, and she would've been like you genius we're 2 of a kind
This guy tells the jury to not make decisions based on emotion, after strategically telling a story about her father abusing her as if that has anything to do with the facts or evidence of the case. I guess you can call that smart, more like the prosecutors and jury are stupid.
@gogoforromeo It does, actually. He has probably defended tons of innocent people as well as he defended Casey. Lawyers just do their job. They don't know if their client is even guilty or not. That's the point.
Clinton Leonard He can come to the same logical conclusion that any jury can. He sees all the evidence provided. “Just doing job” doesn’t make it okay for you to do something downright scummy.
@gogoforromeo It's not scummy to defend people, even criminals. If lawyers didn't defend criminals the same way they defend innocent people the justice system would not exist. The jury decides your innocence, the lawyer just argues it. Blame the jury if you want to blame the ones who did something wrong.
Yeah he was already a well respected defense attorney -- that case made him into a A-list attorney if he wasn't already. He did something that most people frankly thought was going to be impossible.
@Clinton Leonard "They don't know if their client is guilty or not." How stupid do you think they are while still being such capable attorneys? Technically, all any of us "know" is that we exist. It doesn't change the fact that Casey's guilt is up for about as much debate as gravity, and her attorney knows this better than most. He chose this client and likely felt quite good and accomplished after knowingly helping a child murderer walk free. Yet we keep singing the praises of our justice system as though it cannot be improved upon. Where do we get this notion?
@Last Word No, you are the one rationalizing. You want to live in a perfect world where criminals are not defended and we just lock them all up immediately with zero mistakes. The truth is that real life is not that easy, and we afford the same rights to every suspect because, no matter what your opinion is, they are INNOCENT - until proven guilty.
@Genarii You keep saying we all know she's guilty, but it wasn't proven. That IS our justice system "working." I know this time it upset us, but I am glad the system exists because it could be you or me, and we could be innocent.
He doesn't KNOW it's utterly false at all. He would get disbarred for lying for his client. Casey is lying to him too. He would have his doubts like we all do but that is not him lying.
@Clinton Leonard criminal is someone who has committed a crime. The trial is to determine whether or not they are a criminal (guilty). Lawyers who defend people they know are criminals to help them get away with a crime are immoral people. You're just rationalizing immoral behavior and your entire reply was a 'no you' and then a long winded strawman. People rationalize other immoral behaviors too like 'if i didnt do it somebody else would have'.
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Clinton Leonard2020-08-02 08:09:04 (edited 2020-08-02 08:09:47 )
@Last Word But how could a lawyer know their defendant is a criminal if they haven't had a trial yet? Until the trial they are innocent by law, and therefore it is not amoral to defend them. Having a fair system, even if a few bad people escape, is so much more moral than having a system where your guilt does not need to be proven.
@Zissou Moonshot yeah once the death penalty was on the line most parents I believe would suddenly do anything to keep there child alive over finding out the truth
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Will mckee2020-08-02 08:28:25 (edited 2020-08-02 08:29:25 )
His job isn't to believe Casey's story or not. His job is to go to the government and say "prove it" and poke holes in their stories. And the government failed to prove it that day. If you believe everyone is entitled to a defense, there is nothing wrong with him as a person or his role in the justice system. He plays a very important role in terms of our freedoms and liberties.
Last Word2020-08-02 08:47:04 (edited 2020-08-02 08:58:34 )
Clinton Leonard the lawyers have access to the same information as the prosecutors but a good lawyer can manipulate the judge and jury for a favorable outcome. This is why they are not under oath to tell the truth. The trial is essentially a fight between the prosecutor and the defence. Prosecutors are also guilty of doing shady stuff to win cases where innocent people are put behind bars. So while you can argue that both prosecutors and defence is needed, it is morally reprehensible, evil even to knowingly get someone off the hook who by any reasonable standard aught to be found guilty. The Justice system failed and the defence lawyer is a part of that.
The fact you think 12 people who sat and witnessed the entire case and testimony from both prosecution and the defence were “all stupid”, while you witnessed none of it, is pretty stupid.
I did too. But the more I look into the case; the more I understand why the jury came to the decision that they did. We have the benefit of hindsight and have the benefit of knowing all the information. The truth is the police and prosecution overconfidence botched this case. They missed key information like the web search on Firefox. Only finding out about that web search after the trial was over. The police could have found Caylee's body a lot sooner and have a lot more evidence if they actually listened to one of witnesses. They also presented a ridiculous theory that Casey, a high school dropout that couldn't hold a job, was smart and technical enough to make chloroform. And shoddy evidence from her diary that wasn't from 2008 but actually 2003. The prosecution case was weak. They couldn't prove premeditated murder. Heck, they couldn't even prove that she killed her daughter.
If you can stand it watch the Dan Abrams versus Nancy Grace show about it. They have that weird little alternate juror on the show who, to me, was drawn into Casey’s story and would have voted to acquit. He now believes it was her fault. He also mentions that he didn’t feel George was a credible witness. It was like he was following a different trial
Her parents are pathetic. They’ve created this monster. A full-blown graduation party for someone that didn’t graduate…it’s okay to lie, we’ll cover for you - and the dad was a cop?!? He should know better. Instead, they’re more worried about showing face.
VH What do you mean that ex cop should know better? With the amount of bad cops on the streets acting as if they own the streets literally, I’m surprised you said that. To top it all off Casey’s parents molded her into what she’s today, a cold hearted killer that got away with murder!
I can't believe how the parents let her get away with everything. And the way Casey is talking to her mom, I could never be so disrespectful towards my parents
@mmven1 The parents have some serious issues in that they don't want to have their child feel disdain towards them. So much so they will do anything to please her and love her.
I don’t agree. It’s one thing to want to make your child happy & try to cover for them. It’s another thing to murder your child. Her parents aren’t murderers, & normal humans don’t expect murder to happen in comparison to lying about graduating.
It's really hard to face the reality that your child is a monster and it's easier to deny it. However, that denial has killed a child so I don't feel that bad for the parents. They could have potentially prevented this.
@Zed that’s sounds like my ex-fiancé, but he did that to me instead. Fully engaged to me, 5 year relationship but he was happily living a single life last year and lying to the other girl he was single. Don’t get me started that his ex girlfriend prior to me did exactly the same to him, and his ex reminds me so much of Casey and her parents just nurturing this pathological liar! It’s crazy
@Sightless Sniper i see you’re replying to multiple people under this video, talking about the oj case. Why is it that so important for you to mention here? Don’t be mad, im not disagreeing- just curious.
@Jayako it's due process. It's so a person's fate for criminal offenses isn't left up to one person. In theory, it also puts a larger burden of proof on the state so it's harder to just pick someone to throw in jail. Sure, there are flaws, but it comes from trying to protect the rights of citizens against government.
@Mike Honcho I really have the impression it was a very useful thing in the past, but that it is counterproductive nowadays. It would obviously make much more sense to put experts in a jury, or at least have more emphasis in judicial matters during education, or at least be required to pass an exam as demanding as in the military. This last one is actually difficult, because without incentives most people would fail on purpose. Otherwise we reach this situations where attorneys slyly seek emotional manipulation, subtracting objectivity from the cases.
@Crack Dad I don’t really give a damn though. Everybody knows your ability to beat a case is dependent entirely upon your financial status. Just a normal day in the US justice system
@Evan Noyes it’s annoying he’s commenting this and maybe for him it’s about race but for me, the guy got away with that murder and wrote a book about how he would murder his wife and it was exactly like how she died. It was weird to me. And he too was very laid back like Casey was in court. But it’s annoying he’s commenting about that case on this video.
I've heard it was because the prosecution jumped the gun and only went for first degree murder, when they should've went for a bunch of other charges to try and get her. Not going against anybody here, I agree she is pure evil and should've been locked away forever, where she probably would've been destroyed in prison because as far as I'm aware even prisoners hate people who hurt kids
I love this - brilliant lawyer, smart defendant, stupid prosecutors looking for the death penalty when they don't have a solid case (they couldn't get a confession). A great example to remind us all how biased, inconsistent, and unfair the US legal system is.
@Jayako It's to help prevent innocent people found guilty. There's a saying "It is better 100 guilty persons should escape, than that one innocent person should suffer."
Her parents threw her a graduation party and told everyone that she graduated with honors and it was all a lie!. Well the parents helped to create the monster that killed their granddaughter and then the monster turned on them. Now they have to live the rest of their lives with that knowledge.
I said the same things. They created the monster that she is instead of spanking her up big time and punishing her for her wicked behaviours. Now their granddaughter pays for the wicked behaviour...Aaaaahhhh...Yuck!
Yep. Enablers. I heard on a podcast when she got pregnant and everyone was asking about it her mom was denying that she was pregnant to everyone who asked...while she was visibly pregnant lol
yellowllama the podcast is called Last Podcast on the Left. They do a 2 episode series on this case and occasionally drop tidbits if she or her family show back up in the news. Just a warning the hosts are pretty vulgar and occasionally off-color and while they absolutely drag the perpetrators (one of the hosts is an actor and he mocks Casey’s comments in nasal Valley girl voice) they never ever mock the victims. They do their research and are super respectful of the victims but won’t hesitate to attack the perpetrators.
@A I The defense will say anything. For one they said she didn't know how her daughter died then at the end they said well actually she drowned in a pool. Despite having duck tape found on her mouth. This case is ridiculous.
@DeOranjed It said in the beginning that she was tested and found to be normal in mental state. A lack of empathy would have likely been discovered during this time. IDK
@Buttered Timbers Are you serious lol You think she cared about anyone other than herself. I know you're playing with me lol If you actually believe that then it's just a reflection of you. Prison's are full of sociopath's. Bye.
@DeOranjed I know what a sociopath is, the literal definition of it is a mental disorder... I just wanted you to change that because it could be used as an excuse for her behavior: "She was disordered" instead of "She was a terrible human being with no reproach"
@Buttered Timbers This is the most bizarre and frustrating case of injustice I have ever seen. If she shouldn't go to prison then no one should. So manipulative and devoid of empathy, It just is what it is. I do understand how you feel though.
@Buttered Timbers The thing is I just think of a disorder as "something which cannot be controlled" She should be in prison because she was more calculated and focused than most people. All the best.
@DeOranjed sociopath
NOUN
a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.
@Buttered Timbers Regardless of any definition she has no empathy for any one else. It's a disorder just to be against the norm. Most people have something which could be defined as a disorder and I don't care for text book mind's. We can all agree the out come of this case is nuts!
I agree! a lot of people seem to forget that a sociopath can also easily fool people and trick the tests and experts. How can you get an accurate conclusion if the entire experiment is dishonest and shrouded in a manipulative fog.
@Buttered Timbers BTW the term "Sociopath" has never been a professionally recognized term so it doesn't have an actual definition, so it can't be defined as a disorder. I think you're think of the other word. Its not recognized in the UK or the US.
She is definitely a sociopath, those experts simply didn't have enough time with her to establish a proper diagnosis, something like that isn't something easily seen after a few visits.
This makes me so angry but you know what something will happen she won't get away with it. Karma never forgets nor does God suffer the little children come unto me. She is evil and something bad is coming for her.
@Anne Frank Reread your comment to @Brooke Miller when you told her to "gtfoh" when she said Caylee was probably in heaven. What's your problem with someone wishing a dead child is in a happier place? You're rude.
im losing my mind over this whole plot of hopkins how was not enough to nail her??? and her job? leading them there and then laughing oh i dont work here
@Eric Jurgens huh? they are talking about how Casey said that Zanny would baby sit Caylee, and hopkins son Zack together, even though hopkins had no kids.
@The God Emperor of Mankind they actually did test the stained carpet in the trunk where her body was, and had k9s verify the scent of decomposition. so i have no clue how she got away with this
The craziest part for me was... so the babysitter watched both the kids, but took your kid. So who’s watching Jeff’s fake kid now? He just casually loses a nanny that took another child and not word for either parent? How in the world was she able to get away with it
@Rea Z literally.. and it took “more than 25 mins” to walk to the back with them just for her to LAUGH .. like oopsie daysies i don’t actually work here ?? like what was her plan ? and it’s unbelievable they actually let her get away with it. baffling honestly 😭.
if she had been tried in most other courts under the same circumstances (figuratively speaking) then i feel like she most likely would have been found guilty sometimes its like its just the luck of the draw and in this case it was a bunch of moronic jurors and dirty lawyers failing to keep the key incriminating details of the case front and center in their minds and in court, even those detectives sitting in a room giggling like schoolgirls with her should have remembered at some point that at best she is still very guilty of some very sick behavior, you don't have to be her enemy at that point but sure as hell don't be her friend, i will say though she is a class act manipulator and her depraved lawyer was just perfect for her
@Darng I mean I know that. I’m just pointing out the flaws in her nanny excuse. Like who loses a nanny and then just goes on with their life while the other parent (Casey) deals with the fact the same nanny took 1/2 of the kids? Like that doesn’t even make sense.
yeah I'm so confused, she lied about everything and it was all proven to be lies but she still walks free?!?!? meanwhile there are numerous innocent people in jail that got put in jail off of nothing but a feeling from the jury. This world is very interesting.
Edward Marshall george zimmerman, an armed man, started the entire altercation with treyvon martin, an unarmed 15 year old boy, after following him for several blocks in the middle of the night. it’s pretty apparent why trayvon was scared, and its sad that george couldn’t just report trayvon to the authorities instead of trying to take matters into his own hands.
FYI: "Zanny" does exist in a sense. Casey gave her daughter an addictive drug called xanax, nicknamed xannie, so Caylee was just always passed out while her mother went out partying
@CashOutVasquez it's the same technique some beggars with kids use. notice how the kids are always sleeping? cus they are constantly drugged (either alcohol or some other drug).
@CashOutVasquez she did eventually die from a xanax overdose allegedly. Casey would keep her in the backseat of the car dosed up on xanax while she was partying with her friends and one day she gave her too much (allegedly).
@CashOutVasquez nope. You only die of a xanax overdose if it's mixed with different drugs. I could take 50 xanax pills with no tolerance and id be hella fucked up but I wouldnt overdose. Good question though!
This is why I believe in the theory that Casey killed her unintentionally (doesn't make it right at all though) and just overdosed her. That or she used too much chloroform.
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Nah I'm good2021-09-24 01:10:16 (edited 2021-09-24 01:13:14 )
@♡grac♡ chloroform actually doesn't really work as a sedation method it is used as a cleaning agent, but it could still work to an extent
@CashOutVasquez That is one theory, that the baby eventually died from it. But not necessarily. It can be harder to poison a person that you might think.
@Nah I'm good chloraform was used in the 50s on some cases to sedate kids for surgery, my dad included, it works but makes u super sick after you come to 😬
Exactly. This was exposed by her friend via texts and it was like a code word inside joke type thing. She would say things like “oh don’t worry I can come, xanny the nanny got her sleeping” type shit.
@Jessi Cat Exactly right, that’s exactly how Caylee died and the reason Casey couldn’t present it as an accident when she first died-the autopsy would have shown the Xanax. She just lies so easily.
@phoenix rexx I'm pretty sure the whole "Internet search" had to be dropped because the company that did the search fucked up and had to fess up to their mistake, thus bringing everything they said into question.
You lot need to look at this case properly- I've read untold comments about her not having anymore children when she did infact, go on to have another child!!
@Marcus Boyo Hey, question since you're a Pharmacist, wouldn't Xanax actually have a paradoxical reaction, doing the opposite of what it does with adults?
@Leandro Tomas Cuadra the opposite of sedation? Nah
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Luke Schwiebert2021-10-07 15:24:17 (edited 2021-10-07 15:24:52 )
That’s a common rumor, but it’s also worth noting that there is in fact a person named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, who lived near Casey and apparently met her a few times. It would be consistent with her other lies if Casey just grabbed a random name that she remembered from an acquaintance and used it to add credibility to her story.
WTF... got here randomly. IF the child died in the pool then why was she duck taped? if the child died by accident how can the mother continue her life, partying and behave like nothing happened?
@Booop (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧ I believe you misunderstood what I meant. The fact that the best friend cares more about Casey's daughter, than Casey's care for her own daughter < this was implied, is sick. I don't care about Casey lol.
after fabricating her daughters entire babysitter, claimed she was taken but when found was DEAD IN WATER she still got not guilty???? the justice system is a joke, especially when it comes to children
Those jurors had every detail to understand the truth, but they couldn't even find her guilty of abuse or neglect. I was so disappointed in that jury. I don't think they understood "reasonable doubt".
You should blame the idiotic juries that judged her as innocent because they believe her. There's even a clip on here of a female jury that set her free as innocent telling the camera that she's completely innocent and will always believe her and never change her mind. Like wow, she managed to manipulate the jury. A female jury saying she didn't kill her daughter and she will always believe her innocent. So messed up.
@bababooey Now that she’s been found not guilty, she can never be charged for it again. Even if they found 4k footage of Casey killing her child today, they could not charge her for it
@FOV Educate yourself. The jurors knew she was guilty but could not convict her because Caseys attorneys did a fantastic job of picking apart the horrible prosecution team.
@Thomas Daniels the prosecution teams immaturity on providing the evidence to the jury shouldn’t affect the sentencing due to the amount evidence that was in fact provided… hard proof too.
@xZero as long as the statute of limitations isn't over and new compelling evidence is found I think she can be retried, just not solely on the same grounds
they put oj in jail for like 17 years with technically no priors for "stealing" his own property back. So id say they def made sure he was punished if not to the extent they wld have liked. They just left this bitch alone and never pursued her again. One of them started dating her lol
@QuDaFool that’s got nothing to do with colour. Both were acquitted despite overwhelming evidence. Race doesn’t need to be on the ingredient list for every event, you know.
@bababooey they can’t. Unless they can find a new crime to charge her with, you cannot get charged again for a crime you were already charged with. (You murder your kid. You’re found not guilty. They can’t charge you again with murdering your kid. They could charge you with abuse, with assault, with murder of someone else if they have the info. But not murder of your child again.
@Megan Mercedez I watched most of it. It is a very one-sided, edited hit piece on Casey. Anyone can be made to look bad in a one hour video taken out of context.
@Chad Zeller even police reports say the nanny was fabricated. it’s nothing about making casey look bad, it’s about her lying about literally everything
@Chad Zeller not to mention the fact the man who casey said had introduced her to said babysitter said himself he doesn’t have kids nor did he introduce her to a babysitter. “zanny” doesn’t exist.
@Chad Zeller are you also gonna excuse her diary entries and the google searches she made? “i made the right decision i’m happy now.” and “fool proof suffocation” please do a little research or at least watch the full video before defending a child killer
@Megan Mercedez The supposed diary entries were misrepresented. That one was likely written before Caylee was even born - many years before it was claimed.
Guys.. im also more then convinced she killed her, but unlike many of you i realize that its not evidence, but rather all the suspicipus behavour that convince me. Hence there is no way to actually know. Even if you feel like you know. Its weird and almost disgusting, but thats your great nation of America.
this is why the concept of a jury is just beyond me. these are just normal citizen with no special training whatsoever. imagine you want to become a judge and studying, gaining experience and what not for years only for some random people to call the shots. civilians can be easily manipulated that's why we use trained professionals. in most european countries Casey Anthony would've been convicted because we don't have stupid juries (for the most part). trained professionals are way harder manipulated than some randos who wanted to play judge for a day.
@Dick Sherman oh ok so i did misunderstand. english is not my first language so sometimes the real meaning is lost to me. thank you for clarifying though, this is indeed very interesting information
Right, but the babysitter could have drown her in the pool or whatever nonsense she made up. Obviously not, but those two things aren't exactly connected.
this part of the video ruined me. Her own best friend was in tears at the thought of anything happening to her daughter and she basically told her to shut up and give the phone to someone else.
It’s the same response you’d give if you were told that you’re car payment is overdue. Her inner guilt (or at least whatever equivalent to guilt Casey is capable of feeling) translates what her mom says as an accusation, when really it’s meant to uplift her.
it was an immediate red flag when she starts talking about caylee having 'had' grandparents, how lucky she is to have 'had' them - clear that she knows she is already dead. so sad.
Just one part of the reason we need some sort of professional jury situation. We have far too many morons running around that cannot be trusted to make such monumental decisions. It goes the other way too, look at all the innocent people being released after DNA testing became available.
On the flip side, if a dude was convicted of murdering his wife solely on the fact he had affair you would be flipping out. Double standards make you look foolish!
I would say an affair is far more telling of your immorality than lying. Don't get me wrong, she's responsible for Caylee's death but we will never know if it was apathy or malice.
@David alright, the duct tape over her mouth, Casey partying during that whole time her child was missing (viva Bella?) and her incredible litany of lies to the police from the start were all out though, right? Doesn't seem like that search was the missing puzzle piece.
The jury was ignoring the blatant fact that after her daughter “drowning in the pool”, she literally went out partying. It what caylee would’ve wanted ffs
The jury didn't ignore that. The jury, when interviewed after the trial, said they did believe Casey murdered her daughter but that the state didn't prove their case for 1st degree. Blame the cops. They botched the investigation by refusing to search the area where the body was found for months, because it was full of snakes. Blame the prosecution for overreaching on the charges and not constructing a good theory of the crime. Baez was absolutely right in his summation of this case. The DA's case was entirely based on Slutty Mother, nothing substantive, and the jury RIGHTLY saw that wasn't enough to put someone on death row. Too bad the DA didn't go for a lesser charge. Casey would probably be in prison now.
@TheCoffeeNut711 Exactly. If you compare this to the Darlie Routier case, you will see that cops using the subsequent behavior of the defendant is not good evidence. Darlie shouldn't be in prison right now based on the state's case but her jury was too enamoured of the story the cops told about Bad Mommy to see that the evidence was thin in that one. Also, the state didn't go for 1st degree only with Routier, which gave the jury an out to convict her of a lesser charge. The FLA DA screwed up the Anthony case so badly.
Be careful with the details. She was partying and looking up suffocation back on the 9th while she claimed the drowning occurred on the 16th. She had to account for her positive demeanor and internet history so she moved the date of death to a more convenient time.
@Abe Buckingham The prosecution wasn't able to establish who made those searches according to their own timeline and theory of the crime. You may be right, but it was the DA's job to construct the theory as you describe. They had two years. They couldn't do it.
@Abe Buckingham It really wasn't. The body was too decomposed to form a coherent timeline by the prosecution. Blame the cops for that. They refused to search that particular area, though they were called out twice to do so, because it was full of snakes. So the body was left for months gleaning very little evidence for the prosecution. The prosecution couldn't come up with an adequate timeline for Casey's movements that explained the searches or what exactly she was doing for the month alone with Caylee. The prosecution relied on the police interviews, which they bulloxed totally based on the video's JCS posted here, to prove Caylee was a liar and that's about it. Being a liar doesn't make one guilty of 1st degree murder. Being a Slutty Mommy doesn't make one guilty either. What Baez did was extraordinary. He cut through all the biases and the weak prosecutorial case to make it clear to a jury that they couldn't send Casey to her death based on overwhelming emotion and speculation. Not an easy task, but he did it.
Fred masking your pain means going out partying and acting like nothing bad is happening? It wasn’t her masking her pain, it was her manipulating. She broke to her father and mother, if she spent her whole life masking her pain then why show it there? Every time they mentioned not guilty, you could see her smile trying to come out.
@FemaleAnimeMaster They may have had moral qualms. How are we supposed to know if they did or didn't? It had nothing to do with attitude. The prosecution failed to prove their case for 1st degree murder.
@damian helbert You don't understand the power of withholding emotion when it's demanded of you? Yes, Casey would "break" as you say whenever her own pain was the focus. But a real emotional manipulator would have been wailing about Caylee for cameras and cops, yes? A real sociopath tries to utilize emotions for effect rather than stifle them altogether.
oliviatree they had other charges. They had aggravated abuse of a child and voluntary manslaughter in the 3rd degree. They acquitted her of all of it. Go look at the verdict and then get back to me
@Holly Harrison Again, because the finding of the body took so long there was little evidence of any abuse left. Blame the cops for that. As for the voluntary manslaughter charge, here's the description - "The crime of voluntary manslaughter describes a homicide intentionally committed while in the midst of a provocation. The prosecutor must show a sudden, unexpected event or circumstance serving as a provocation. As a result of the provocation, the defendant must have felt a temporary anger, heat of passion, or emotion that immediately resulted in an intent to kill or an intent to commit the act that resulted in the victim's death." The prosecutors in this case showed no sudden provocation. They showed no heat of emotion that led to the killing. Their case was entirely geared to 1st degree murder and premeditation, along with the Slutty Mommy stuff, so no wonder the jury abandoned the other charge.
What I don't understand is that, had Caylee died of drowning in the family pool as the defense asserted, presumably she would have had chlorine in her lungs....but there was no mention of that, as far as I could tell. The absence of chlorine in the lungs would seem to refute the defense's assertion. Secondly, had Caylee died of drowning in the family swimming pool....why were her nose and mouth taped??? Thirdly, she spoke of trying to find Caylee on her own, but did any of her friends or phone logs back that claim up? It would seem not. Finally, why wasn't Casey (her mother) charged with child endangerment when she didn't contact the authorities for over 30 days regarding her daughter's disappearance (and as we now know, Casey didn't contact the authorities, it was Caylee's grandmother who did). That at least rises to child endangerment and negligence. I agree, that's a minor charge compared to homicide. In the end, I believe Casey was somehow involved in all of this and it shows in how she acts throughout the proceedings, misleading investigators at every turn, her lies and perpetual deceptions. Unfortunately, you can't convict someone on how they behave during a homicide inquiry. Indeed, it seems you can't convict someone in Orange County at all. So who was Casey protecting?!?!? Herself? Her boyfriend??? Who might have kidnapped her child, and why? I can only think that Casey was involved in some kind of shake-down racket and ended up getting shaken down herself.
oliviatree and aggravated abuse of a child? Which includes neglect. Which was more than proven in this case. I’d love to see your description of manslaughter in the law books because that doesn’t sound right or accurate.
@oliviatree I agree the prosecution fucked up, but in such a case the jury must use common sense and logic and remedy that and not take part in this farce because the system is lacking and failed to do it's job. Is there reasonable doubt she did it? I would take my chances and bet my life she either did it herself or was responsible for the crime. There are few things in life with absolute certainty and here the chances are high enough to take the risk and the responsibility.
I'm not talking about gut feeling here but pure reasoning. Her demeanor, character history, pathological lying to an absurd degree, motive (her diary), search history, lack of alibi and consistency. And this is scratching the surface based on a brief youtube presentation. If I were the jury, I would have trouble sleeping at night.
@Tristan Deniet This would have landed better if we forgot she lost her child a few hours before that. That attorney had the jurors in the bag. He's a lowlife scumbag and can live with that, but he made supposedly decent people let a child murderer walk free and this sure will haunt any human being with a moral bone.
@Stephen Dedalus Convicting someone of 1st degree murder is not a farce and something no jury (outside of Texas) should take lightly. This jury did exactly what they should have done - paid attention to the evidence, not the sensational story. Juries are not supposed to correct the mistakes made by cops and prosecutors. I insist that if you don't like the outcome of this case, don't blame the jury, don't even blame Casey. Blame our justice system, something we can actually do something about that. Blame the cops who were too lazy to find the body or interview Casey competently (they had no idea what they were up against with her.) If you don't want Casey's getting away with murder in the future, demand accountability from the cops and prosecutors. That's the ONLY way to change anything.
Yes, discipline your kids but I don’t think her very odd parents could have prevented a sociopath like Casey from murder. If anything I would have thought Casey would have abandoned her child with them, knowing full well they’d take care of her while Casey did whatever the hell she wanted. To murder a child... that’s a whole other level of evil!
This lady is a legit sociopath and I would venture to say she is a full blown psychopath. She just doesn’t care. Like no emotions at all. But the way a lot of females are getting raised nowadays: they are like psychopaths that can cry. Like they can go full histrionic. They have anxiety whatever: but they show no empathy for anything. I once had this chick admit to crazy weird bad things(not going into detail) but then she was actually crying.but you bet she was using it to her advantage. If you are ever in situations with them: do as the investigator in this case; let their ego blab on to their disadvantage. Narcissists
I liked the parents, and I know they loved their daughter and granddaughter, but seems Cindy was most guilty for being an enabler. She wanted so badly to believe her daughter, but just never took the reality check.. Very sad.
I think Casey was a psychopath since she was born. Kids like that are barely phased by standard discipline. I think her parents are guilty of 2 things,1st not noticing or ignoring the behavior problems as a child and 2 teaching her to be a total bs artist.
@Sarah Min some people are born screwed up in the head regardless of how they were raised. My sister is a huge liar and manipulateur she's a horrible person and i go out of my way to be absolutely nothing like her. My parents are great people and raised us right my sister just chooses to be a scumbag. But i guess it's normal for women to blame all their faults on someone else. Always trying to play the victim while taking no responsibility for themselves.
@StarChild that guy did take it a little far with the satanic worship stuff lol. But psychology and the mental health field do have a lot of skeletons in their closet. Forced sterilizations lobotomies using people as lab rats for their experiments. Many people in those fields of study are very callus people who see what they're doing as the greater good no matter the damage they cause to an individual person.
@BlackLightAura they enabled her entitlements by letting her get away with anything even though they prob knew she was lying. they dont seem bad people, but bad parenting. I do feel bad for the parents. Especially when she accused her father of raping and we can clearly see that's another lie.
Also kids are like sponges they learn everything from the parents. So when you “discipline “ them for their actions take a look at your own and you will realize they are a mirror image of you and your actions!
I think it’s a mix of nature and nurture here. We know for a fact that her parents enabled her bad behavior, going so far that they encouraged, threw a party in support of and fabricated lies themselves to save face for them all. What would that teach a teen who is going to be of age and then labeled an adult soon? Ya know? It’s fair to assume that if they would lie and save face for something as big as that, they would have little problem extending this behavior in other aspects of their lives. In fact, many men and women in prison have traumatic childhoods. Not all, but many. However, there must also be a percentage of parents who do indeed parent “correctly” or in a way that society would deem so, who don’t expose their kids to trauma that changes their lives. And in that case it must be nature. I’m rambling. Sorry y’all.
@Sarah Min No; psychopathic children are found in regular families with well-adjusted siblings. I have a theory about vaccinations but you'd have to have some knowledge of interventionist genetic engineering aka DNA hacking.
@Sarah Min why did i turn out completely opposite from my sister then? And what about families that have a kid who turns out to be a serial killer and the rest of the family is normal?
Casey not being convicted is one of the biggest miscarriages of justice since OJ Simpson. Those jurors were idiots and didn’t understand their roles. I watched the trial I don’t understand how someone with half a brain cell could have found any reasonable doubt at all. They said they couldn’t convict because they “didn’t know how she died”. Well duh, the remains were skeletonized. Their job wasn’t to decide how she died but whether or not Casey as responsible for her death, which she was. There’s more than enough circumstantial evidence to say 1+1=2. It’s outrageous. Her lawyer Baez was so sleazy that I don’t doubt jurors were allegedly paid off as several allegedly made unusually large purchases after the fact. She could walk down the street and scream she killed her child and no one can do a damn thing about it. She’s a sick sick evil lying trash heap child killer. I hope one day she slips up (and she will) and that justice is finally served. She’s a sociopath and she’s manipulative and cold blooded.
“Bloise said he thought the jury would have been impacted if they would have been able to smell a carpet sample from Anthony's car that was sealed in a can. Numerous witnesses testified the car smelled like human decomposition. Judge Belvin Perry said the jury would not be able to smell the can if they asked.”
@Dominic Jose Biaz was the one who told the jury that Casey Anthony was sexually abused by her father in his opening statement and never proved it so Biaz was relying on feeling to help set free the person who was supposed to be responsible for the care and welfare of Caylee. I think Biaz thought Casey Anthony's parents created a monster who never took responsibility for her child financially because the grandparents were content to have their granddaughter live with them. I personally wish that the prosecutors didn't rely on Cindy and George Anthony to help prove their case because they lied to the police in their interviews saying that they believed Casey Anthony had a job and a nanny. There's proof that they both knew their daughter was lying about that. Cindy Anthony had been advised before her granddaughter was taken from her home to seek custody of her granddaughter and tell Casey Anthony to move out. But Cindy Anthony was in denial about the situation. And Cindy and George worked for a living and expected Casey to take care of her daughter. They were also in a lot of debt and maybe not able to pay a babysitter. The prosecution failed to prove their case because (among other things) they didn't check the internet browser that Casey Anthony used to look up "foolproof suffocation" the day her daughter supposedly left the family home for the last time. Their tech team only checked the one of the browsers on the Anthony family's desk top computer. Biaz wrote about that prosecution mistake in his book. Biaz was smart enough to talk to the jury in a friendly way while Jeff Ashton came off as the arrogant jerk and Linda Drane Burdick lost points probably due to her monotone voice that wasn't what the jurors expected to hear after years of watching Law and Order and CSI. Frank George did a good job except when he kept asking witnesses who were Casey Anthony's friends, "did Casey ever tell you her child was missing, that her child was kidnapped, that she was looking for her child?" and those type of questions over and over. The fact that Caylee's remains were
just her skeleton and hair left the jurors with the possibility that Caylee died while her mother was asleep or on the computer or whatever. I don't blame the jurors.
I really agree with you, but lady justice is blind, and a jury HAS GOT to SURE BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT. DOUBT.. wHIACH NMEANS :1_1DOES not equal two. iT IS WHERE'S THE PROOF , not hearsay, not ASSUMPTIONS. ETC. not conjecture, not well, that goes without saying, I think she did, she PROBABLY DID< I mean , but PROOF. what PROOF. and the BURDEN of PROOF is on the District ATTORNEY.
Karen Kelleher Circumstantial Evidence is the same as direct evidence in quantity. When all signs point to it being a duck, it’s a duck. That IS proof barring a video of the event. Do most killers kill on camera? No. They try to evade detection. It’s up to logical people to put the pieces together. If I tell you it’s dark out at 10 pm, do you need proof? Or would most logical people know that at night it’s dark and agree with that conclusion? No one else logged in to her computer and made those incriminating searches as Casey. Her mother was at work. Her dad was not the one lying and driving around in a car with decomp fluid in it or pretending like everything was fine, as her ex boyfriend Tony said she was. No mention of Caylee other than to say Caylee was with her grandparents when she wasn’t. All items found at the death site were linked to the Anthony home. Everything down to the tape covering Caylees mouth and nose sockets. Traced to a company in Ohio—where they were from. We could say a giant bald eagle flew out of the sky and grabbed Caylee. Does that seem possible? Casey’s cell pings were traced right to the location the body was found in on the day she “disappeared”. I watched the trial. I spent months reading all testimony and available discovery. I know that there was plenty of “proof” to find her guilty BEYOND any reasonable doubt. There was no doubt at all. She had the opportunity, she had the motive, she was the liar, she was the last seen with the victim, she made the searches for “foolproof suffocation”. There’s absolutely ZERO “hearsay”. The only thing missing was video of the crime, as Casey’s DNA was all over the crime scene. Being her mother, that didn’t prove much. Watch the trial, it’s on YouTube. Read the discovery, and then get back to me.
even tho she got off and that terrible that's the jury's fault. She needs a fair trial and can use any bullshit she wants and deserves to. Just unbelievable they found 12 suckers all at once.
@Mr.Roboto This is why the child didn't get justice. If I felt in my heart she was guilty, guess what? I would've said so. Guess that makes me more vindictive, rather than by the book like your professional self. And ya'know? I'm more than ok with that.
@J B if circumstantial evidence was to become direct evidence when in numbers, it would only be called evidence or piece of it. I believe you know that it sucks that this is true, but it is - the adjective circumstantial really means it is not solid evidence. And no, even if it looks smells quacks and flaps like a duck, it does not means it is a duck - hence why we have black swans (the statistical concept) and deduction logic instead of rethorical syllogisms running the world. This case is massively complicated, but unless you wann hurt a substantial amount of good people, you have to accept that proof has to be PROOF. But yeah, i get you, ow lord what a terrible world we live in.
@Daniel Powell no, you wouldn't. And if you would, it would be a terrible hunting judgment overall - you can't convict others on gut checks, no matter how hard it may be to swallow this truth. A lot more good people can get hurt if you decide things because you felt like it, and not because it was irrefutable otherwise. It hurts me to write this, but gut checks are not justice either way - judging otherwise you would be creating more injustice then not judging it at all.
Actually ive read numerous books on this the prosecution did a shocking job and didnt prove anything. Jury made only decision they could under the law. Dont blame them
I think there's an interest as the USA has a lot of those women hating groups online. Like those men who make video channels of women doing things wring to say why they hate women, even if men usually do more of those things. Or those men who make youtube channels about why they don't want women, but instead of leaving women alone, they spend their time trying to make women feel bad and promoting abuse. I noticed how USA men and women seem to dislike each other more than places such as Europe, where love and romance is part of the culture. I didn't know if it's connected to how USA women tell men they think they're disgusting if not cir/cised and some men who have that done develop issues they take out on women?
@J B eh from a legal perspective no not really a psycho murderer could do the same shit i would have done it. If i was a person in the jury i cant say she had anything to do with the murder if u don't even know how the poor kid died.
@Ife Newsome because you form opinions based on emotion not facts. If the prosectuion cant prove a case no matter how obvious it may seem then you cant be found guilty.
Your brain cant reason past shes not acting normal and her decisions dont make sense so its proven eyond a reasonable doubt she killed her daughter
@Daniel Powell People "FEEL" a lot of stuff in their hearts, the child didn't get justice in this isolated case but you start abusing circumstantial evidence in the court of law, your'e opening a pandora's box, a lot of innocent people will end up in prison and get death penalty b/c of what people "FEEL."
@roberts1711 right so what are you her cousin? you remind me of her. smell of death in trunk. story of kid missing and all witnesses brought in dont know what she is talking about... People who dont exist where used as reasoning to why the kid was missing. Also 31 days no report of kidnapping? You know people get shot by the police for less right so i mean hey.i guess there were no witnesses and the nanny was real. She wasnt partying while her kid was missing and still didnt call the police. If we agree or disagree with each other the truth is your worth nothing for my survival and well being and vice versa. we can waste time talking philosophy or just not talk. It truly doesnt matter and that is the true fact.
@roberts1711 listen man you believe she did it. I believe she did it. I am not trying to prove to you how she did it. You and i both agree we think she did it. You wanted me to argue with you about how she did it, I do not follow your commands nor do i feel a need too. I was here to give an opinion and im guessing im the human who is giving you human interaction ok. To me you just remind me of her you do alot of manipulating. So again i dont know or understand why you feel you have to get me to argue against you to prove how she did it to prove what we both think and believe. To me its just a bunch of liars lying and you telling me im dumb for not understanding the lies or inept responses of the avengers to get justice. so for me they protected her. all the time cops put crack under someones seat or something like cmon. Its like they didnt even try.
@Ife Newsome lol. Firstly you started arguing with me. Im not trying to get you to argue esp over how she did it. You called me her cousin because i was familiar with the case and rightfully defended the jury who couldnt find her guilty because the prosecution was shocking. Id invite you to read about it. It really is criminal how bad they presented their case. They basically didnt put any effort into actually proving anything because they were just like her actions are so obviously suspicious and dodgy that the case is a given.
When i started actually looking into the case and reading books i was like how the hell could a jury not find her guilty. By the end i had to agree with the jury decision.
The prosecution provided little to no actual proof of anything. The scenario they presented for why casey would kill her child made no sense. (Again i think she did but in a court you have to provide a realistic motive and scenarip and evidence, prosecution didnt)
That jury is an embarrassment to our legal system and our country in general. I hope one of those morons is reading this right now and fully comprehends the miscarriage of justice they contributed to.
Dead Pizza We know how she died. She was suffocated. The jury doesn’t need to know HOW she died just that Casey was responsible and she very obviously was. If every juror had to prove how a victim died all killers would need to do is be good at finding a hiding spot. I’m going to guess you didn’t watch the trial or read the discovery. Do that first.
roberts1711 Not books. Watch the TRIAL read the discovery. THAT is how to inform yourself. Books can put whatever slant they want on it. Absolutely rubbish. The prosecution did all they could.
NoodleDog Ridiculous answer. Are you 15? Like I said. Spend time studying this case the way I did and get back to me. Yes if it looks like a duck quacks like a duck it IS in fact a fucking duck. Circumstantial evidence is just as strong. This case had all the evidence you need minus video of the crime. Read up on it and then check back in.
@J B "she very obviously was" where is the physical proof she was. So that the jury could find beyond a reasonable doubt she killed casey and not her father for example. Tell us.
@Dominic ahhh yeah dude and the part about Casey being abused by her father and forced to lie since she was a child is not emotional? Get outta here dude..
Portabella Mushroom It makes me sick to my stomach. If I was Casey Anthony, I’d be on death row. People with far far less evidence have been put to death before. I’m glad we try our best to prove guilt now so innocent people aren’t put to death with the frequency they used to, but if people require more “proof” in the Anthony case, I’d like to know what that is barring a video. The prosecution proved their case. They just didn’t get through to the village idiots, many who had arrest records themselves and should never have been on a jury panel because of it!
The Green Dragon JB you are so right! She has the privilege of being a female and being white (my opinion). Had this been a father, he’s guilty until proven innocent. Last I read on Casey she was living in Florida with an attorney and doing work for him. Whether it’s true or not who knows. She’s as guilty as the day is long in my book and I hope she has nightmares of Caylee for as long as she lives.
Actually if you watch the trail it wasn't. The jury did their job the state prosecutors did not. They had 0 reason how Caylee died just theory. Justice was accurate you can't convict someone if there is reasonable doubt had they gone after a different charge she would be sitting in jail today. Watch the trail.
This is the biggest miscarriage of justice since O J Simpson but NOT in the history of our nation. If you don't believe me read about Emmett Till and the Scottsdale, AL trial in 1929. Let's not forget Poplarville, MS in 1959 and multiple other trials/cases of this nature.
She could sue U 4 defamation 4 all the krap U wrote, & win without having 2 prove she didn't do it, because 'defamation per se' puts the burden of proof she murdered somebody on YOU. U R committing a CRIME by asserting 'she did xyz' LOL!! She won the case so U have no chance.
Devidein I’m sorry that the truth hurts. You just can’t think critically period, it’s a waste of time to bother discussing anything with you. Imma block you now.
Oj wasnt guilty his wife was a coke head n the dealers did it n oj left cuz he wanted nothin to with that or her anymore ojs only fault if u could call it that is that he knew the dealers were gonna deal with her
@J B I didn't say I believed Casey Anthony was not responsible for her daughter's death. I personally believe she murdered Caylee in cold blood because she either couldn't find a babysitter (her multiple calls to her mother that afternoon while her mother was in a work meeting) so she could go out with Tony (so she put duct tape on her child's face and left her in her car where it was hot and Caylee died of heat exposure) OR she didn't want her parents to get custody of Caylee because then her parents were going to turn their backs on her (Casey). Casey would then have to find someone else to sponge off of and she did find someone...her new boyfriend and his roommates. Plus stealing and using her mother's credit card(s) and stealing money from Amy Z. I also personally believe when she looked up 'household weapons' and the like, months before anyone last saw Caylee, that she in her delusional mind was planning on killing her parents so she could move her friend Amy in and in her mind get insurance money from her parent's deaths to live off of. Casey Anthony according to the police interviews of her friends (old and new) had delusions of grandeur and was a pathological liar. She lied long enough so her daughter's body rotted in a trash heap in a swamp in the Florida summer heat. I don't think that was an accident. I think she purposely put her daughter in that swampy area to cover up that Caylee died of heat exposure in her carseat or in the trunk. If I had been her juror I would have convicted her of all the charges against her. Only the jurors can answer for themselves why they acquitted her. Yes, I was very upset that she was acquitted but I blame her for that acquittal because she did many evil things to escape conviction. Her parents especially Cindy Anthony helped her escape conviction. They all make me sick!
Colleen Gardler The medical examiners says the tape was covering both the mouth and nose. The tape was two thick strips. It had attached itself to the hair and thus kept the jaw attached to the skull. Normally when a skull loses its tissue it falls apart from the jaw, as ligaments and muscles hold the jaw hinges to the skull. This led the medical examiner to rule it a homicide and not an accident because the only reason to cover both the nose and mouth would be to suppress the child from breathing. This is why I am certain this was no accident. Later when the defense came up with the pool scenario we know that’s bogus because Casey never mentioned the pool at all, and there’s no reason she couldn’t have said “my daughter fell in the pool” and call EMS.
Ok so here its the thing that I dont understand. Ok where did you drop the kid, OK went there and there was not anybody by that name. Ok yeah why lie abt that. If thats a lie then what really happen where do you remenber dropping her. I mean in my mind, This is a case where its so simple to snipe for the truth, way to simple to know that this was murder and by somebody that will lie abt everything their whole life. I mean yeah she lied because she was molested as a child. So what I was molested too {we learn to survive and become stronger} or you can let it eat you. The truth abt her was never told, and all her lies pointed towards her. I mean its awful to what happened to her as a kid but hey you were so strong enough to do that but not strong enough to say where you droped your kid.
@Jojo i mean yeah the baby sitter doesnt exist, and not a single way she proved them wrong. She lied countless times for her sake.HELL, She must be partying at this very moment 🤣
@Abdullah Jaffri I am sad. I mean, they had search history. How could that fail as evidence?! had they looked at her google maps they would have found the lake too!
So yall attacking her for telling the truth. They did fail her. We all could see that woman did that shit. No we may not have been able to do better but who knows maybe all we need was a good closing argument to win. Either way the people who went to school for that shit PROFESSIONALLY did a shit job. So yea any of us probably could have done better. Shit put us in a jury. They failed her too. Definitely could have done a better job as a juror.
ra you’re still saying “could be” and “if” and disregarding the evidence displayed lmao. i’m not gonna play jury rn. you asked me why i think she did it and the answer is in the video. i’m not discussing possibilities any further lol
@Muva GoddessOfTheLight so your thing is a jury job is to convict people no matter what , they did their job if they believe she is not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt their job is not to convict people out right and in your mind they are , can see it when we read your comment "Definitely could have done a better job as a juror." they did their job ! period whats better convict ? convict an innocent ? just on feelings or your feelings ? do i believe she is innocent no, but i was not the jury and we all believe think different its the same with the idiots that is rioting for the rapist that got shoot (the one Harris praised and meet) when he grabbed the knife in the car even the police said stop bla bla and so on
@ra imma tell you that I have a child around caylees age. And if I went to pick her up and she wasn't where she was supposed to be i would immediately call police and lose my fucking mind. Not wait a month and only report because my mom made me then make up fake people and lie about everything. That 100% proves she already knew what happen to her daughter. And she didn't call police because she was involved and didn't want to get in trouble. Period. There was duct tape found around the mouth of the decomposed skull of an innocent 3 year old who trusted her mother to take care of her. Instead her mother duct taped her mouth, killed her and dumped her like trash. If you can defend those kind of actions you are no better than the person committing said actions.
@ra the fact that she lied to cover her involvement proves that she was in a clear enough mindset to understand the difference between right and wrong and understand that what she did was wrong. She's not insane, she's cold and calculated. She could be declared insane if it was proven that she didn't understand her actions were wrong, but that was throne out when she decided to hide them, you dont hide actions you think are right and acceptable. So thats a bullshit argument
@S Y D N E Y its called having proof. Yes I and pretty much everyone think that Casey killed her daughter, which she likely did, but there is no evidence to back it up.
@killer queen It was only stated by 2 people that her car smelled like a decaying human. The investigators clearly didn't come across any smell or a body from her car, thus the proof is insufficient.
@killer queen yeah but the thing is that just like the lawyers, you wouldn't be able to prove otherwise. I personally don't know whether the video here is biased or not but yeah, it seems pretty clear she did it. But proving it in a court of law irrefutably turned out to be hard. I don't know why.
DAVE ADAM why are you explaining to to me? I agree with you. She is, I admit, technically not guilty. But my post was about her affect, which is what the narrator was analyzing and what my comment was about. I think maybe you need a hobby “Dave”. I can teach you to knit.
Holyyyy her attitude over the phone with her friends and family is INSANE... she is so incredibly defensive and aggressive.. Instead of being upset and concerned WHERE her child is she refuses to cooperate and shuts them down. She’s crying because she’s disappointed herself and others once again not because Caylee is gone.
And instead of not giving the little girl what she wants, they infinitely submit. Makes me wonder if something had gone different if she wasn't around a bunch of yes men
She talks exactly how my oldest sister does. She’s a drug addict who steals from us, is incredibly violent, and will lie to get whatever she wants so I’m not surprised at all.
You're wrong, she cried out of pity for herself. She thinks low of other individuals as you can see in her behavior to parents etc etc. She's pityful cause in her mind she did the right thing (always) and now has to deal with all this minions and incompetent people around her digracing her.
JUST THE FACT THAT SHE WAS “missing” FOR A MONTH.... what kind of mother would allow their baby to be missing for a SECOND. And the odor in her car.... Sickening.
The United States Court system let her walk as a free citizen - what does that tell you about the people who run our country? The USA is run by people like Casey.
Missing for a month and mom is out partying and saying “it’s the happiest she’s ever been”. Absolutely sick. Even if she died from a drowning (which I don’t believe for a second). That’s an accident, you don’t slap duct tape over your kids mouth, throw them in a duffle bag and toss them in a swamp. This case makes me absolutely sick and incredibly mad that she got off. I honestly hope karma catches up with her very soon and she pays.
Somebody that is forced to be a parent. She would have been what 19 when she was pregnant. Maybe we shouldn't be culturally forcing women to be mothers.
im not a mother but my little brother has always been in my care (im 16, parents work) and he went outside to play and i didnt know while i was cleaning dishes and i freaked out and started crying and yelling for him he just walked up to me and was like wtf are you crying about, i could not imagine losing a child and being so straight faced.
Aviendha there’s adoption. There’s abortion. And in her case I’m sure Caylee’s grandparents would’ve gladly taken custody. That doesn’t justify killing an innocent child.
@horsegirl07 her diary entry made me sick to my stomach!! The justice system truly did fail that little girl :( also I'm with u, karma should bite her in the ass real hard
one time, as i was getting ready for work, my son, always loud, singing and dancing and laughing, decided to hide from me and not make a PEEP. i can't begin to describe to you the sheer panic and terror that consumed me in the 2 minutes i couldn't find him. i was 30 seconds from calling the police when i found him hiding behind a door i thought i had closed and he couldn't open. going 31 days without finding him? i can't imagine my mental state. i'd probably be locked in a padded room, completely insane. this bitch casey anthony is COLD AS ICE.
When my kids at a playground and I don’t see him in direct line of sight I get nervous. The thought of my children being missing at all fills my heart with pain and dread. She is a sociopath murderer and I can’t believe the jury didn’t lay the hammer of justice on her.
Aviendha society never forced her to be a parent. She had many options of having a child wasn’t what she wanted. Society forces me to pay taxes, is it cool if I off someone from the IRS out of frustration?
@cup whether on we agree on on her guilt, we have to admit she had a SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH disease. As in, whether or not she killed her daughter, her action after the child had died and before the body was disposed, is a symptom of a mental health disease she had developed since the time of her abuse. I didn't even see news of whether her father was questioned about molesting her as a kid.
I don't think her parents helped in the killing but they absolutely helped in discarding Caylee's body. I wish the parents would have been charged in Caylee's murder because only then would the truth come out to what happened. Where was Caylee's dad when all of this happened? He must know something or did this this narcissistic POS manipulate him to keep quiet? There were a lot of stupid people on that jury.
Jessie Beam the president doesn’t exactly control the justice system. any change that would make it more just, would be such a large change i doubt it’ll ever happen. many things would have to change, be reasonable now.
what's the most fantastic thing is, is how Casey Anthony had an answer for everything without missing a beat. Question after question thrown at her by detectives and she didn't hesitate one bit. For a liar, that's very scary. Did she rehearse a scenario in her head for over a month knowing what was going to happen? She must've. She was very prepared to lie.
Her lies were so easily exposed though. Like when they asked her how she met the supposed nanny. Why make up the story of her colleague introducing her to the nanny and him having a son who the nanny babysits together with her daughter? He doesn't even have children and the police was obviously going to talk to him to see what he knows about the supposed babysitter, at which point they immediately find out that the whole story is BS. If she was actually a smart liar she would have made up a lie that she found the babysitter through Craigslist or some other website that she doesn't really recall anymore. I think people give her far too much credit for her ability to lie. Anyone can make up crappy lies on the spot. The difficult part is making up lies that are actually impossible to refute or expose.
@tibor29 I totally get what you're saying. I have come up with two possible reasonings for this: Casey probably thought that the police would take her at face value about the colleague, son story and they wouldn't check into it, OR make an outlandish story so it makes her look like she could possibly be crazy. I suspect she had ALL her boxes checked off in her head and also thought she could sway the cops with sex appeal. She probably thought she was in the clear.
Word salad. Like when she was confronted in that quite dramatic moment and just maintained the same demeanour but said stuff about passage ways and choosing doors. Some people can just say fluff which doesn't make sense but just bamboozles you. The sentences don't make it possible to react with anything tangible. Pathological liars and manipulators just spin lines that leave you confused as fuck and you end up giving in to their perception of reality to some extent. In this case, the jury fell for the gaslighting in the defense's closing statement and he managed to swing them using the same kind of psychopathic rhetoric. This poor girl, it just seems like she's an afterthought in all of this and it just sucks so bad.
A pathological liar, cold-blooded no feeling for her daughter only goal is to get away w/murder 👹only problem is God see everything u cnt hide from the Lord 🙏❣️✝️✝️✝️
She’s a practiced liar, but not a good one. She’s never had to lie well enough to fool an objective observer before. I can definitely hear slight pauses before she lies as well. She’s quick, but she mistakes that as her being more clever than everyone else.
And her lies were detailed. To come up with them on the spot like that and they were still so believable. Too bad for her they could easily be verified.
I am going to be straight to the point with this. As someome who can be as her a lot of times, a very believable liar. You think a lot but not as much as someone would think. You imagine different situations in different contexts, but maybe a day or 2 prior to something you will know will happen. As the one who lies knows, everything has to be in order with every word you say, but it comes in a natural way, in most cases you create this fake world in the moment, not days or weeks in advance. It is very difficult to understand this last part, but i will say it anyways. The lies are so believable that you yourself believes in it. Your world changes and that lie that you said, that you know it is a lie, becomes in your mind something that really happens, i think that is a great factor about why some liars are so natural when talking, because they think it as a truth. As for the judgement toward people like us, i can only talk for myself saying this. I do not like to lie, i understand it is wrong and many times i do not want to do it and try to stop myself, i am in therapy for that. But it is so fucking hard because you do not notice when the lie will come out your mouth, its so annoying, frustrating and unjust that you can not control yourself from talking bullshit. Well, that is all, hopefully this will help a bit.
@Maya Actually, putting in that much details is a tell that someone is lying and trying to sell that lie. It's also why exposition tends to break willing suspension of disbelief for mediocre writers, the details are just too rich to be real. Real people tend to forget details under pressure and have to backtrack or think hard before they can give the full details.
I once dated a woman just like this sub human creature. She would lie about everything.. and it never even phased her. It was just automatic to her. After decades of honing her craft, she became a master of deceit. And whenever she got caught & exposed for her lies... she would always pass herself off as a victim...for pity, and to deflect. I swear seeing this, and listening to Casey speak, it is exactly the same in manner and method. Gives me chills. There are truly evil sub-human monsters amongst us, who can appear to be harmless. Beware & Be Aware.
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Steve Winter2020-08-04 07:09:38 (edited 2020-08-04 07:14:24 )
@Maya I consider myself a witty person.i can think of stuff on the spot..I have good recall of things like movie scenes ..words in a song...I am good with play on words in conversations..but I dont know if that's a natural thing or a honing of skills. What I dont get is how someone can also have this natural ability or honing of skills but to be a liar. Its def. Fascinating to watch. It's basically an improv liar. This girl has names .dates..locations..and just spits them out on command..if that's improv..its impressive to watch. If she had planned this story for a month..even so..still sitting in front of seasoned detectives without missing a beat was still impressive. I would've cracked in 5 mins.
@Gato 008 With the greatest respect to your beliefs, If there is a god then surely he wouldn't let that evil woman and her lawyer disgrace the life of that poor little girl in the first place, and get away with it. The lawyer uses all the tricks in the book to twist their reality into thinking her guilt was in doubt. That whiteboard with that weird word sequence on it. It was almost like NLP kinda. Disgusting murder, a girl's entire life of hopes and dreams. All her future children and their dreams. The existential loss of life is heartbreaking. All because she wanted to party.
Absolutely vile miscarriages of justice like this wouldn't happen under a loving god.
@Get Offended Thanks for responding...Her lies definitely were not good at all - she HAD to have known they would check her facts and verify them, right? Or maybe she assumed - since she didn't give a crap about her kid - that they wouldn't care either and just take her word for everything? In my personal opinion, I do think she is very smart...just the ability to come up with such fluent lies like that and to manipulate people with her calm and cool attitude, reading peoples' reactions on the fly and adjusting from there. Plus I am sure she has been manipulating people her whole life. Too bad she has no conscience, IMO she could have gone on to do something important with her life - maybe used her ability to spin to become an attorney or a public relations agent.
Walked free?! I think you've got your wires crossed! She didn't bloody "walk free", she merely had her life spared and given that the death penalty is wrong for ANYONE, justice was done! You're also forgetting that she was found NOT GUILTY which means that despite all the lies, deception and bad behaviour, she DIDN'T COMMIT THE CRIME! I just hope they catch the real killer some day! 😔
@Dommi Davros 'Real Killer'? Did you not hear what the defence attorney was arguing? I think you didn't pay attention to the case which makes it clear that you have no clue.
@Dommi Davros: Just because a court ruling says so doesn't mean it's the truth. All the American court gave for closure for this case was that they aren't sure and won't deliver any justice.
@Dommi Davros You smoking the same shit she was to come up with such blatant lies. "Walked free" implies she got off without consequence, sure - she had no legal repercussions for the depraved crime that she DID commit, despite the judge and jury deciding otherwise. It's situations like this that get my blood boiling since there are other such obvious cases in which the criminal was either lightly charged or not charged at all.
@Dommi Davros she very obviously committed the crime. Just because she got off because the prosecutors didn't do a good job, doesn't mean she didn't do it
@Vaagai - Well a jury of her own peers said differently! Case closed! Meanwhile the real killer is still at large and you're sitting there like a fool still glancing in her direction like YOU know better than the professionals! If you're so sure, prove it! 🙄😒
@iPathos YT - I like how you get so angry about this and think you know better than the experts because you're "so sure" she did it! You've watched one biased documentary and know next to NOTHING about any of it! She was cleared which means she was innocent otherwise they'd have found her.....er.....guilty! It's not rocket science! Obviously they never get it wrong as there's nothing to gain from being wrong! Get a grip already! If you want to get passionate about an injustice, take a look at animal agriculture! That's TRUE injustice! 😒🙄
@Dommi Davros being found "not guilty" does NOT mean someone didn't commit a crime. It simply means someone is not CONVICTED of a crime. She may be "not guilty", but she is undeniably NOT "innocent".
@Dommi Davros Yes, it is a lot of signals we can percieve, see in someones eyes, hear in there vocie, read from bodylanguage, sence energies & also by text, like your text here, I can read personal trades about you.
@Truth Love Justice - Sure you can read body language but you need actual evidence to convict someone! This woman obviously didn't have enough against her.
@Dommi Davros My comment from the start, was that I could see it in her eyes, that she killed her child & the whole video comfirmed what I saw the first sekund. You seam to think that, just because the jury was fooled & found her not guilty, that the TRUTH is, that she did not do it...maybe you are very young...maybe you are not that smart...maybe you are afraid to except that this world of "proffesionals", is not as safe & trustworthy as you want to believe. This video, was obviosly made, to show how wrong things are & everyone in this comment section has tried to make you to wake up. That women, killed her child & she got away with it...deal with it.
@Dommi Davros She lied the entire way through her case, she never showed any emotion for her child, she never called the police, her mom did it for her, and she tried to avoid talking to them on the very first call, she went and partied after Caylee went missing, had the smell of decomposition in her vehicle, searched up ways to suffocate someone the day Caylee was last seen, her remains had duct tape on her airways and the same clothes on her from the last day she was seen, Casey used Caylee’s name in past tense when speaking with her parents at times, and the body was found not even 2 miles from their house, the defence argued drowning, which makes 0 sense whatsoever considering the duct tape on her skull. If you think Casey is innocent, you have some major issues you need to work on.
@Dommi Davros bro she literally lied to detective’s multiple times during the investigation, also again WHO THE FUCK WOULD WAIT A MONTH BEFORE CALLING TO REPORT THEIR CHILD MISSING. Also how can you explain Casey’s lack of emotions all throughout the investigation?
@DK O’Sullivan - Hence my point that either her defence was amazing or the prosecution were terrible! Either way they were unable to prove her guilt and the jury didn't buy it either!
If she wasn’t lying then what’s with all the lies? What’s with the internet searches about suffocation and the ductt tape, the smell of death from her car, and the fact that she didn’t search for her daughter but instead partied?
It’s just a coincidence she died from suffocating and her mom that didn’t try to find her at all, didn’t talk about trying to find her, talked about her in the past tense and had been researching suffocating before writing in her diary about how she made the right decision and how better her life was now? One hell of a coincidence… coincidences.
I hate it when people just call everyone they don’t like trolls, but are you trolling or what?
I mean, certainly you do understand the difference between someone being found innocent based on lack of evidence and someone being innocent because they didn’t commit the crime right?
If someone is found innocent based on technicality does that mean they didn’t commit the crime?
I really find it hard to believe you can’t understand this concept.
@Milky Way I have sympathy when they are concerned the safety of a 2 year old girl that to their knowledge is still alive, just kidnapped. Just because the justice system sucks, doesn’t mean we should waste all of their time, especially the detectives that are assigned to kidnapping investigations.
@Milky Way naw, you're definitely not being honest and objective, lol. You're only continuing to prove my point though as you further argue your silly narrative. Good job! 😂👍
@Electric Soup I have made my arguments and all you come back with is your fake lol 😆. Grow up Casey Anthony. Its funny how you didn't respond to anything I said.
I'm so sick of that word. Narcissist is so over used, and everyone claims "this person is a narcissist" when in reality, it effects 1.5% of the population and its extremely rare. I despise Casey, but she only meets a few of the criteria and barely at that. She's alot of things, a Narcissist she isn't.
@Truth Love Justice Justice should decend upon her some day. At least she is not a serial killer, she would've did better than Dr death in body count if she is a true psychopath and became a doctor.
@electric soup. She was tested several times. No narcissism, no psychopathy. So whatever she is, she's not, by current definition, a Narcissistic psychopath
@Electric Soup The tests results were part of the court papers. Probably still under some kind of jurisdiction, though I believe one of the authors of the many books about her quoted that, so I would think he was at least a psychologist to be able to access the material. Anthony... and I'm not saying I think she is innocent, has no more traits of psychopathy or narcissism than anyone. Which stunned me rather. I would have thought she had some kind of disassociative disorder, but it was never proved in law. Hence the result.
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Electric Soup2021-12-14 15:55:21 (edited 2021-12-14 15:55:40 )
@arianbyw could you kindly then maybe lead me to where I can start to find this information? Not trying to sound like an asshole, it's just you sound so confident in your opinion, I'd like to be informed too, and telling me it might be in a book somewhere doesn't really narrow it down, lol. This was a high profile case, so no doubt many books were written about it.
@Electric Soup I did reply but it seems to have got lost. I am in UK so I have no idea of US state laws regarding information re: legal cases. The case was some time ago, so it may be a matter of court record, or archived online. I suggest you try that first. Or perhaps the records may be in the actual court house where the case was heard. Or a library. Like I said, I am not conversant with how legal documents are stored in your country. It may also be that only professionals can access the material. I am not saying Anthony IS innocent, just that her tests seem to indicate a disassociative disorder rather than narcissism or psychopathy. And that was not proved in law at the time. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
@arianbyw that's okay, thanks. If you sent a link, YouTube deletes it. Until I find confirmed sources of her mental health, it's safe to say we're both making assumptions. Hell, maybe we're both right.
Second time posting this comment. YouTube censorship makes no sense to me.
How the hell does this woman have a nanny for 2 years, and her parents have never seen her, met her, spoken with her, etc? The enabling here is on another level.
I've just watched the video of the Jen Pan case. So they arrest a girl for life for killing her abusive parents, but an abusive parent who kills her child, got away? What a beautiful world we live in.
almost any grandparent would raise their grandchildren if the parent isn’t fit to do so. sadly there are many people out there that are just not parent material but think admitting it makes them a horrible person. it’s not for everyone and it’d take a lot more courage to admit it and make sure they’re raised properly than it does to stick around and make them miserable.
i haven't finished the video yet so i don't know if it mentions this but i read an article about the jury and their thought process. most of them agreed that Casey wasn't guilty of first degree murder (it was 10 to 2), and when they moved on the aggravated murder they were* split down the middle. one of them said that things got really intense at that point, and eventually there was only one man that refused to acquit her and only agreed to do so after he realized that there was no way for him to convince the rest of the jury that she did it. i don't know which member it was but that poor guy probably feels so guilty over this when he tried his best.
Well that was mind blowing. Did anyone else want to see Caseys' dads reaction to the alleged child abuse? If this was untrue, which there's a good chance it was, he'd be heartbroken.
Very nice video! Excelent analysis of this very sad event... The mentioned name Juliette Lewis is a famous Hollywood movie actress. "Coincidently", one of her most known movies is entitled "Natural Born Killers", directed by Oliver Stone and starring Woody Harrelson, who plays the role of "Mickey Knox", couple of "Mallory Wilson" (Juliette Lewis). "Coincidently", the film tells the story of two victims of traumatic childhoods who become lovers and mass murderers, and are irresponsibly glorified by the mass media. "Coincidently", in my humble opinion, Casey also has a lot of physical resemblance with Juliette Lewis... Would Casey reference of Juliette Lewis as a work colleague be some kind of unconscious projection of who she would like to be? Would this reference be some kind of Casey's riddle or joke related to the character of the movie? Art Imitates Life or Life Imitates Art? Who will ever know... May God protect us all from this kind of tragic events...
I can understand not wanting kids or the physical and emotional responsibility that comes with being a mother but this is just insane. I remember Casey Anthony being on TV when I was younger so this is definitely intriguing to research years later as an adult.
could you imagine working at a job & then years after you've left you get a call that a sorta-kinda co-worker name dropped you in a missing child/ murder trial? poor jeff dude
It really is remarkable to watch these detectives at work. Sometimes they get it wrong, but dang they were absolutely spot on. Same thing for the case of Jennifer what's-her-name and the kid who pretended to be crazy. Both are videos on this channel.
I just think its SO creepy that she has calm conversations with the police... without trying again and again to ask questions about what they are doing to find her kid.
It’s just unbelievable that she avoided the legal consequences for her actions. Plenty of times in regard to Cayle she speaks about her in a past tense and then fixes it for present tense. I think that is the most wicked part. Actively constructing this huge lie. Orchestrating the a huge lie is one thing. But for that lie to be a cover up for you’re own daughters death, at you’re own hands is nothing short of insane.
It’s sad because I believe this killed her father!! I still can’t believe this girl was found not guilty... Never forget this!! I watched every court date at work in between patients..
This case has the worst outcome, since O. J. This woman is openly admitting to be happy now that she's "free". Imagine your child dying, ignoring that she most likely killed her, but just that you lost your kid, and you feel better than with it? How about give your kid up for adoption, instead of killing it?
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Alex Lloyd2022-02-10 21:52:22 (edited 2022-02-10 22:13:54 )
so the defense basically lied their way to her freedom. I'm actually astounded, and disturbed, that she managed to get away with murder. she actually killed her own child, pretty much wrote about it in her diary, previously googled of how to kill someone, and the jury managed to find her not-guilty, they honestly need to have their search history checked and to be investigated themselves. As does the defense lawyer. I physically CAN NOT understand how the defense lawyers can sleep at night knowing they allowed for a child murderer to walk free.
This lawyer must be really proud of himself and must have made partner, after this case. I just hope that nothing remotely resembling to this, ever happens to his love ones!!!
one thing I must appreciate. police - detective did great job. hats of to you all. I am astonished!!! how jury panel took it!! didn't they see evidences?? facts!! God bless Caley's soul. she did not get justice she deserve.
I hope this jury is haunted with this for the rest of their lives. This woman with a car that smells like a corpse, while her daughter is missing is out partying and is completely indifferent the entire time, lives about everything. Not just one thing, but everything. This defense attorney literally stole the victims voice in this trail simply because she could not be there for herself. He said it out loud in his final deliberation. Yes this disgusts me because this monster is walking amongst us rather than 6 feet under.
I like how doubtful the defense attorney sounded when he talked about the justice system working. Oh. Do not be fooled. It did not work. And he knew it. He's good at lying. Not as good as she is. This has been and will haunt him for the rest of his life.
Hello. Did some of your video's become unavailable or taken down? If so that's a shame, I really enjoy your content and hope to see more video's in the future! 10/10 favorite channel for crime / psychology related content, thank you!
the last statement made by the defense had me absolutely disgusted. all of them all heartless and the evidence was right in their face.. i have never experienced so much hatred towards people i don't even know. rest in peace, dear caylee
Undeniable proof that a jury is ridiculous. I really hope the members of this particular jury don't get a single, decent night's sleep. Holy fuck, I'm so damn angry.
Sense this video's topic is the psychology of Casey Anthony and not about the case itself, I understand why it didn't detail the evidence. I never looked into this case before, but after watching this video I searched 'evidence against casey anthony'; - A FBI specialist on hair samples proved a nine inch hair strand in Casey's trunk came from a dead person and matched the DNA of the Anthony family (Caylee included, based on a match from her hair brush). - A scientist detailed evidence of a decomposed body had tainted the atmosphere of Casey's trunk - Instructions on how to make chloroform were included in Casey's internet search history. (this was included in the video too) - The duct tape found on Caylee's mouth is of a rare brand that Casey's family owns in their garage.
One of the top comments of this video states that this is one of the worst miscarriages of justice. Before I looked up the evidence and solely went by what this video detailed, I was about to wholeheartedly disagree. And that is because the defense attorney was stating that no evidence outside of Casey's unusual behavior was presented by the prosecution. If THAT were true, then the jury was right to say not guilty. Because you need proof, you need evidence, you should NOT base such an important decision solely on the character of the defense, you should not prefer character discrimination and stereotyping in this context, no matter how "obvious" a person's attitude or behavior may be in being guilty.
Now that I know of what else was presented to the jury in terms of physical evidence, can I agree with that top comment that this was a miscarriage of justice. I say all this to explain that no one should conclude that Casey is guilty solely from what's presented in this video. I cannot stress enough how terrible and a true miscarriage of justice it would be to base convictions solely on character. So this is why I listed other evidence involved. Anyone who also believes Casey is guilty as hell should know these points to justify their opinion.
Not once did she shed a proper tear for her child, shld of been held accountable for this, anyone cld see that she was guilty of this crime, our justice system fails us
The way people can weave these stories like realistic fiction has to be the most terrifying thing about this entire situation. That if the prosecution didn’t have a good lawyer to disprove the stories justice for this lass would not have been served.
dead body smell in car, baby missing for a month never reported, telling family and friends it was a waste calling them because they're emotional, never cries about the child.. she got away with it and the attorney says that the justice system didn't fail. times like this makes me wish the double jeopardy law didn't exist.
Just realized that the nickname Zanny feels only similar to Xanny as in Xanax, makes me wonder how Caylee really passed and what Casey was indulging in.
She would have been the same age as my brother who's now 16. I wonder what she would have accomplished and what she would have done with her life. That poor baby 💔 makes me absolutely sick
Holy fuck, those lawyers helped not just a murderer go free, but a mother who murdered her own child go free. I hope that weights heavy on them for the rest of their pathetic lives.
I can't remember, did George ever address the accusation that he abused Casey? They showed his face after Baez mentioned it in opening but he didn't appear shocked or upset.
The only reason she cried when her mom told her raise her head she need to look into her eyes. Because she know her moms knows when she’s lying that way.
Nomo Sapiens2020-08-02 01:38:16 (edited 2020-08-02 01:39:27 )
@Moo Moo Kitten Tacos I blame the idiots in the jury. They knew the evidence and despite everybody and their dog telling them to follow the evidence, they went with their feelings and now a child-killing sociopath is free.
You’re one of the few people to think she’s actually innocent, check the internet. Google her name, watch the videos of her... that’s not a mother in grief
@Nomo Sapiens have you actually seen the full trail? This whole case was botched. Police were alerted multiple times about the area where Caley's body was eventually found and nobody bothered to search it properly until 5 months later. At which point the body had decomposed too significantly. The medical examiner didn't even examine the body properly and gave misleading and inconclusive statements, leading to doubt that there actually was evidence of a murder.
The jury aren't there to give the conclusion you want. They were told "this is a trail about first degree murder" but weren't presented with unquestionable truth. The prosecutors called for the death sentence. If that jury was going to convict this idiot Casey of death, it needed to be 100% without a doubt true that she'd committed a murder.
@Henri Lewis I've never said the justice system always yields success. It's just insanely cringe for someone in the youtube comments deem the person as guilty based on an 1 hour video, when the verdict has taken 6 weeks of deliberation. He didn't even give any arguments, literally just virtue signalling.
EMPIRE F4N because his argument is ultimately from emotion, as is yours.
OPs case: “Casey strikes me as inhuman - her appearance is revolting and disgusting. Ergo, the end result of her case seems absurd.” Yours: “Your limited knowledge strikes me as cringe. The authority of the justice system trumps a measly commenter’s opinion.”
My response to you lies in the cringe response. The justice system CAN be wrong, so OP rightfully feels disgust. I suppose you can rightfully feel cringe at his disgust, but then there’s really no argument on your part - a visceral emotional reaction is simply a reaction. You can justify your reaction, as can he, but these are not directly causal explanations, but useful justifications which help us explain subjective experiences to each other.
At the end of the day, then, his emotions are just as valid as yours but, to me, a cringe response and a pretension of objectivity (that the justice system knows better) is an unfair treatment of what is ultimately a subjective statement on the part of OP.
To judge someone for how they feel is, in my opinion, bizarre.
@Henri Lewis Stating that jury's verdict should be held in higher regard than some random person's opinion is not an emotional argument. Just because a very small percentage of people are wrongfully prosecuted, does not justify using emotional arguments, especially when someone's life depends on it, and I am really glad that jury usually tends not to do that. If he found an issue in the timeline of events that took place and pointed it out, I would have never said anything.
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Henri Lewis2020-08-02 04:33:55 (edited 2020-08-02 04:36:19 )
EMPIRE F4N no, the arguments are still ultimately reducible to emotion. Some argument that the jury was not swayed by the emotions of the defending attorney is ultimately predicated on your attitude towards that jury.
An argument that “the jury likely knew better” is still only that - a likely argument. The likelihood and believability therein is still ultimately due to emotion.
The onus transfer on the part of the defending attorney is doubtful. It’s akin to creating a mysterious boogeyman that solves all the problems on Casey’s part. We can analyze it suspiciously like that, or we can believe it as true and sweep all of Casey’s absurdity under the rug. It seems the jury did the latter. The absence of evidence here is not the evidence of absence. The absence of evidence, rather, gave credence to DOUBT in the evidence - the sweeping under the rug.
@Henri Lewis The likelihood of jury knowing better is based on the qualifications they have attained and all the experience they have had working in their field. It's absurd for someone concerned about wrongful prosecutions to point that that absence of evidence should at any time be used in court against someone. I am also glad that according to UN's Declaration of Human Rights people are innocent until proven guilty and that the state has to prove the wrongdoing. Otherwise you'd have states prosecuting and throwing people into prisons authoritarian style.
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Henri Lewis2020-08-02 05:14:25 (edited 2020-08-02 05:15:35 )
EMPIRE F4N Prospective jurors are chosen randomly, as far as I’m aware - ie, they have no super especial qualifications making them enlightened citizens. They’re not big brained elites.
In any case, the allegations of pedophilia were what supported Anthony. If you don’t think that swayed the jurors emotionally at least in part and if you don’t think it’s an extremely dubious allegation, the truth of which doesn’t seem to be evidenced anywhere online in any concrete sense other than speculation, that’s fine. Go ahead and think it. All I claim is this - you have no absolute grounds for thinking it, and you shouldn’t use that opinion to malign someone like OP as cringe.
Again, all I aim to say here is that OP’s FEELINGS are justified. That there IS POTENTIALLY dubious work here, and that jurors CAN make mistakes, and to be dismissive of that isn’t appropriate.
appeals to some crap absolute truthfulness of the jury are bullshit. That’s all I mean, that’s all I care about, especially when that appeal is being used to shut down discourse.
I don’t know how her parents believed her excuse about not graduating. If your time tables were mixed up, you would’ve fixed it by then. The parents are good people, I just hate how they were enabling that behaviour then. No wonder Casey got away with things, she never faced consequences for anything and no one called her out. How on earth did the jury agree on that verdict??????
What’s even sadder is the Zenaida is literally a real person and tried to sue but they tossed it since wasnt meant to hurt her reputation WHAT THE HELL?? what type of connections this woman got
How this waste of human flesh got COMPLETELY off is beyond me. Everything points to her being guilty....and 14 years later she's walking free amongst the public.
There are people who've been arrested for far less, punished far worse, and have had their lives ruined. I have absolutely no faith in our justice systems here in North America.
I feel bad for the grandparents. If she didn't want to be a mother anymore why didn't she give her up for adoption or even give custody to her parents. I wouldn't wish any child be put up for adoption but I'd rather see a child live, love and grow than to have their life cut short especially by the one who birthed her. Sad story overall, prayers & condolences to Caylee and her grandparents/family.
her car smelled like a dead body her google searches were talking about how to choke someone she went out partying while her kid was missing she wrote in her diary she was the happiest she had ever been while she was missing didnt call the cops when she 'found out' her kid was missing and shes still found not guilty??
Her defense lawyer did a very very very good job! But i didnt think it will work... thats just crazy. The devil won. at least she was a couple years in prison. RIP little angel!
This poor little kid had to die so premature just because she was born to the most cruel mother imaginable. Somewhere in the video somebody says that Casey thought she could get away with anything by just lying as hell about it. Well, turns out she didn't just think that, but was actually correct. And what about the jurors!? Not content with the fact Caylee had to die so young they are making a mockery of her death. And as if this wasn't too much to take already, the defense uses the term "disgusting"! I would honestly try to hold any of the jurors responsible every time a child is being killed as this is what a murderer can learn from this case: The life of this child is not as important as one might think. No justice anymore!
Did they not do an autopsy to figure out if she did actually drown like if there was water in her lungs or signs of something or did they just assumed that and use that as foder? I don't agree with the fact that she got off freely personally but I do understand that sometimes it's hard to do things without emotion or that perhaps I could be biased because I have strong emotional reactions to things but based off of the evidence that there was I feel like she should have got in trouble for something and not just gotten off scot-free. I would have loved to see the evidence as it came in and not look at it from an already happened circumstances I don't understand did they not do an autopsy? It just continues to confuse me.
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Charlie B2022-02-16 14:17:46 (edited 2022-02-16 15:03:40 )
Her family and friends, in that early phone call, all of them asked her where Kaylee was.
How can they question her alibi, The guy the gave her the nannies number and the person she worked with and has kids, He comes along and says its all lies and does not even have kids, That and much more proof she was the last one to see her daughter. Yet she still does not get convicted for murder....... HOW? i am so confused!!!!
I wonder if all the lawyers who get murderers off, then got murdured by the person they got off, would they be so keen to defend murderers.....food for thought
The law system is just fucking ridiculous, this whole court room scene just tolled the story of "we don't care about the truth but only how good of an actor the lawyers are", what a disgusting sight to see. I wonder if this would went the same route if the accused wasn't white. I understand that without this procedure many innocent people would get sentenced but when criminals can abuse the systematic law than it's about time to think of a better solution, of course granted if they actually want a working society but lets be honest thats not really the governments goal. I'm not saying I have a better solution than this but neither do I think that I'm a smart person so get those smart people on fixing this cuz letting a drug abusing, self centered, egoistical, murdering mother walk free isn't a good picture of the ohhh so important "American freedom" that we the rest of the world all hear about, cuz if this is the big American dream than I'm starting to understand why some people actually side with Russia.
Of course the jury from Orange County, Florida finds Casey Anthony not guilty. I very much doubt half of them even knew how to read in the first place.
Sucks not knowing what to believe. None of us were there though, so we cannot prove anything. No matter what you’ve seen or heard, none of us were there.
I blame her parents for the person she became. They allowed her to get away with murder every day of her life, until she actually killed someone. This is what’s wrong with the world today, parents who don’t actually RAISE their children to be decent humans. 😠😒
I watched this case from day one. I think she was young, immature and wanted to run around with friends and party instead of the responsibility of parenthood. She wanted to let a friend adopt the child but her mom wouldn't allow it. I think she had a lot of resentment toward her parents. I think Casey was on the computer flirting, playing around whatever. I think Caylee did get in the pool and drowned. The thing is I think she was afraid of her mom's overbearing presence and that she freaked out knowing she would get the blame and never be forgiven. She knew they would call the police, kick her out literally that life as she knew it was over. I think she wrapped the child up put her in the bags and then drove around with her in the trunk trying to figure out what to do with her and making up a story that she could pull off and make believable. I think when the smell became too much she dumped her. The partying and all that may have been trying to live it up before eventually getting caught which she had to know was coming. Either way it was cold and callus. I'm probably way off but there is so much to this story that will never add up no one will ever know the truth except Casey and we all know she will never tell the truth about anything.
Casey's future... "It will happen this way. You may be walking. Maybe the first sunny day of the spring. And a car will slow beside you, and a door will open, and someone you know, maybe even trust, will get out of the car. And he will smile, a becoming smile. But he will leave open the door of the car and offer to give you a lift." - scene from Three Days of the Condor
I watched Stephanie Harlowe's 3 part series on this case. The amount of lies out of Casey's mouth was astonishing. How a jury found her not guilty is beyond me.
Log Splitta That’s what happens when natural selection isn’t allowed to run its course. We’re forced to look after and take care of the dumb instead of letting them parish.
I like Stephanie Harlowe too. Also that chapter. Morbid on Spotify and this is why we drink. That young British girl on YouTube. I can't think of her name off the top of my head. I've been on a true crime binge lately
She is not a mastermind. She’s literally an idiot. No smart individual is gonna do the things she did and say the things she said in front of the detectives. The fact that the jury let her off with no charges is quite literally CRIMINAL.
martina cabrini2022-02-14 15:22:13 (edited 2022-02-14 15:27:45 )
the jury and the defense are both nowhere near being qualified. no one could ever bury, in first place, their child’s corpose in a remote place, lie on every single question asked from the detectives, wait a month before making anything about it and being so cold about the DEATH of someone so much bounded to you as a kid. talking about the defense, the “key question” was replied to, his etics were out completely apart, he knows she’s guilty. everything WAS proven as happened, the truck smelled like decomposing bodies, she waited too much for it, Kaylee had tape on her face. i hope this case still haunts mr. Baez today for not giving justice to poor Kaylee.
Why is this even an issue? Her daughter is her PERSONAL property, she gave birth to her, so she can do whatever ever she wants to her. This is the image the society and the Law give to women. The little girl definately had a father, he wasn't even mentioned. Another man's rights & responsibilities being spat upon and ignored. Had he had un paid child support, all heavens would have remembered him. Women get far less sever sentences or none, than men, for the same crime. Howmany, men get jailed for life, for being falsely accused by their women for having touched their own children in an improper manner? This Casey story is a result of the impunity granted to women by the law👍
This bias is quite unfair. Im glad its being noticed now. Hopefully people realize and speak up about it more
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Dr. PPP2022-02-16 14:54:35 (edited 2022-02-26 21:22:05 )
@DOGGER ok We men are responsible for the unfair treatment we get. We keep quiet on the injustice done towards us. Women DON'T! The society has it that, to "cry" or complain when being hit or maltreated by a woman is not "Manly", to hell with that! In so many countries, men have NO RIGHT what so ever over their children, only OBLIGATIONS. How is it O.k., that a woman can abandon a baby at an orphanged and even sign documents saying, she has no legal bonds with the baby- FREEDOM (go and make another bаsт@*гд, the has you covered). But a man can't refute something that was drunkly conceived in the club toilet??
@Saj Ayyy the main reason this is racist is because you strip away any and all faults and look at just what their skin color not how they failed as parents and let her believe she could do what ever she wanted based on she could lie cheat or even in this case kill to get out of what she didn’t want
The Artisan2021-06-01 20:10:27 (edited 2021-06-01 20:12:04 )
@hooligan not really, its basically a pattern you can see in most "whites" across all time, and more lately, actually.
Even school shooters (which are mostly, if not all white) get more leeway when confronted with the authorities, vs any other kind of "race" commiting a crime.
@999Claymore and to top it, the whole racist basis that Zenaida is "mixed; black and puertorrican" is so wrong that I am not surprised you're defending the "whites" just because they might share your color.
Just check your own brain, it might be missing a good chunk
I think partially they are trying to make her realize that no matter what she could have done they still love her. They really seemed to be trying to get her to come out and tell them what really happened.
@The Artisan but it isn’t because they are white it’s because they are bad parents and even worse people I can tell you this right now not every white parent is an enabler and if I hadn’t have graduated my parents would never lie about me graduating to anybody especially to friends or family they would be the first to express immense Appointment and my family would probably follow suit
And you could probably say that my family is an outlier but I have never met a white family that would be ok with their child murdering someone and I’m willing to bet that that is the majority but all of these cases of family’s that stick to the murder are being blown out of water because it helps to sell something when multiple people share a delusion of their child killing someone is ok but I think we can all agree that this case is revolting not only in the fact that she murdered her daughter but then got away with it Scott free which just shows how easily a jury can be manipulated into a false verdict
t this happened over a decade ago and Casey Anthony was in her twenties. So why are you going on about “kids these days” in multiple comments? That has nothing to do with anything lol Are you a bitter boomer or something?
@Whym Z Love is blind. The father knew though, look at him in comparison to the Mother during the visit. I would put money on the fact she was spoilt due to being strange and they hoped it would somehow go away.
I'm having the same problem with my parents at the moment. it seems the public are no longer free thinkers n are in like in a brain washed state, caused by the lies in schools and the media. so if someone like me, who can't be made a slave out of n just left school because it wasn't for me. looks at the rest of the public in this day and age, u end up breaking free of the vail by not attending the school progrme n just living naturally and freely like we are supposed to.so after a while u start noticing how the public are kinda drones who only do n say what they see on the news n don't form their own opinions n are to scared to for an up when they do have an opposing opinion. hence why people who didn't do well in school are very clever people in this day and age, because they broke free of the brain washing. so what I'm saying after a while the everyday public including her parents come across as simple as fuck n kinda need to be babyed to get them to understand you because they are just so nieve to how curropt our world really is
it makes a lot of sense to me. my ex-boyfriend was spoiled by his mother and mentally tortured by his father. he turned out to be a compulsive liar, like Casey. lying about bizarre things like owning houses he didn't, pretending to move but not moving, pretending to be divorced but being legally separated, and on and on and on. inconsequentially, he is now doing the same thing to his daugther that his parents did to him. it's a cycle.
Get Offended but how exactly do go about proving that. it happened when she was a kid it would explain how she has so much power over parents the abusers groom the victims by treating them like they’re ‘special’ so giving them whatever they want
TSADE that’s not throwing him under the bus if he did that he also deserved to be in jail, but just because she was raped doesn’t give her an excuse to kill her kid
@Persona non grata Because it was his own daughter. Im not sure if you have kids but if some1 told me my daughter killed her toddler, I'd have a really hard time processing that. That is until I had proof ie. my daughters trunk smelling like death. I think George and his wife were in a great deal of denial until they smelled that trunk.
@Mantidream Spot on comment. Once the parents were conditioned, they would be unaware that she was influencing them, even though it seems very obvious to an observer who does not have a vested interest in her. She will likely test others and try to turn the people she controls against them if she feels they are a threat. You see some of that in the footage of her phone calls where she does this. Some manipulative people will use inappropriate affection when you first meet them, using the person introducing them as a buffer to create social ambiguity.
@A piece of chocolate Do you reject her assertion that her child was missing for 31 days, or do you only choose to believe her when she incriminates herself?
@mike mclean I hear the narrator of this video saying that, but I don't see it. What makes you think Cindy Anthony sees through her daughter? Where do you suppose Casey Anthony learned to manipulate people? It is not a rhetorical question. I am genuinely curious what you think. I am willing to invest a bit before you respond. Casey Anthony is known to lie to cops. Her father is a cop. Her father is sitting beside her mother while her mother is trying to "find out the truth." I see a mother staying on script, trying to get her daughter to incriminate herself, and I think Casey Anthony would not interpret it any other way, regardless of what she knew had happened to her child. I do not see any honest actors in that scenario.
It’s truly, truly mind bending that she is free. What other conclusion could be reached other than GUILTY by a jury after all of the evidence that was available.
@465marko Because the comment is trying to excuse the entire video and case. She is clearly, categorically guilty of the crimes she was charged with. Her behavior made it even easier to believe the evidence -- but perhaps that's exactly why the defense used that perspective to manipulate the jury.
H N even from the pure empathy viewpoint it's better to put one innocent away every now and then. Imagine how many innocents are put to painful death, or raped, because obvious freaks like this woman are let off the hook. That one innocent in jail doesn't even scale up to numerous peoples' suffering.
FWIW, I also think she's guilty. It's practically impossible to walk away from this video without believing that.
So, nobody's trying to excuse her. You're very wrong about that. The point is that there needs to be evidence to convict someone. You migjt think they're 'obvioously guilty' but you have to be able to prove it.
And acting suspiciously isn't enough evidence to convict someone. Even coupled with circumstantial evidence of google searches, it's still pretty weak.
And I think she's guilty as hell!! So - I'm sure you disagree, but I hope you at least recognise the point being made.
@tatagimpera games no. The comment is written in the infinitive, so "could be reached" is correct. It's also correct to say "a jury" since it's correct to use an indefinite article in a speculative sentence. The whole sentence is in the infinitive form. Furthermore, if you understood what OP meant, then your comment is completely unnecessary and asinine.
465marko i also think shes guilty, 90% sure hell 95% sure, maybe 4% the girl had an accident and she tried to cover it, do i think she deserves to be killed, hell no, not evan found guilty, found guilty of what, there is no direct evidence at all. it worries me so much tht people dont understand our point here
The only reason she walked free is the American tradition of executing people. I would also think twice before sending someone to the chair (or however you do it nowadays), unless I was 300% sure she's guilty and it is the prosecutor's job to convince me in that, which they clearly didn't do properly.
It's because that lawyer used the same tactics that he told the jury not to -- that you shouldn't just go off of emotions and just base decision off facts. He made people second guess their feelings and instinct and, in defending, denied the fact that all her behaviors and personality are fact and evidence.
Actually, it was the lack of evidence that allowed her to walk. They tried to convict her of 1st degree murder without a motive or even a clear method of death. They set themselves up for failure and would have found her guilty of Manslaughter.
H N tf does being American have to do with anything? Beside, I see everyone in the comments saying “Ya I think she’s guilty 100%” “Oh ya she’s definitely guilty but there’s just no evidence to prove it”. Obviously there is evidence to lead people to think that she’s guilty, so why wasn’t she convicted? Its just brain dead logic to say “BeTtEr To HaVe TeN gUiLtY wAlK fReE tHaN oNe iNnOcEnT jAiLeD”
@H N Nah that sentence doesn't work either. Your opinion of whether or not I'm guilty is useless. You need proof beyond reasonable doubt, not an opinion that is beyond reasonable doubt.
@H N In court your own opinion means literally zero. The jury and the judge decide who's guilty. It is up to you to convince them beyond reasonable doubt.
@H N You're making it sound like if you think I'm guilty beyond reasonable doubt, then I am guilty. I am not. Court decides who is guilty. Not you. Your opinion means nothing. Courts ruling is everything.
@H N You're saying you need 100% certainty before they are charged. That is not true. You don't need to be proven to be guilty, you need to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. The court don't need 100% certainty to find you guilty, they rarely have 100% certainty.
@H N Of course they must consider any explanation as the possible truth. How on earth did you derive "everyone is guilty until proven innocent" from what I said?
@H N what? I never said that. Are you being disingenuous or do you just need to go back read my comments again? Any explanation, regardless of how unreasonable they seem, has to be considered in court as the possible truth, which for some reason you don't think they should? But just because it's considered, doesn't mean you have to prove their accusation wrong in order to walk free. You just need a reasonable explanation to your innocence.
@H N In what world do you live in where you think the court requires indisputable proof, with 100% certainty, for someone to be ruled as guilty of a crime. It is rare this ever happens and would require CCTV footage or similar. MOST rulings compares two explanations, decides whether or not one is unreasonable, and if it is, the sentence is given.
@H N All good buddy. Good on you for coming back to admit your wrongs. Though I'd advise you to refrain from calling people stupid and not very smart unless you are completely certain you are in the right.
Super pissed. Especially after reading about what Casey is up to now: Writing a book about her story. Another chance to cash in on the murder of her own daughter. It's unbelievable she really got away with this
I hope this brings the case back into light and maybe that the truth will come out. Because if all she was saying to her family, the police, and the jury were lies, that's all she can write too.
I'm going to assume she will be arrogant enough to do book signings somewhere, and with the way this world is going, she may have a run in with someone who isn't there for the book. 😉
@Richard Cournoyer If she does, I can only imagine it is 100% for attention or to hook someone into remaining with her. She is getting older, losing her looks and will be just as cold and manipulative as she always was. She wouldn't be the first killer to go to have kids and be free...Karla Homolka and Mary Bell both got out of prison and had a child.
@Secret The day her parents start letting her lie about school is the day she became a habitual liar. They should have forced her in to being responsible. Spare the rod, etc…
So I live in Florida and funny story, she actually recently went to a bar and immediately had drinks and food thrown at her and was cussed out to the point where she just left from what I heard. I don’t go to bars so I didn’t see her
@B my Valentine Hey man, we can't judge. Casey had such a bright future ahead of her....she handed out pictures on the HULK RIDE! Do you know what that means? She is practically the President of the United States. How could we expect such a luminary to be held back by something as unimportant as an innocent human life that she created? I swear, you people are so irrational!
This women lied about everything but her name and still got off. Her parents were weak, the jury was weak, and the lawyers morality was weak. Caylee didn’t get the justice she deserved and my heart hurts for her. Rest easy Caylee.
@Kaddywompous I didn’t say he didn’t do his job. I said he’s morally weak. He was willing destroy and tarnish her father’s reputation to win a case. It takes a certain kind of person to be able to do that and smile afterwards.
@TaniaBear I still don’t know if there was any truth to that accusation. Maybe he doesn’t either. It’s not his job to conduct and conclude an investigation into her father before he represents his client.
@Kaddywompous Exactly he doesn’t know and stayed it as fact. Lol I think we’re making two different points. I understand it’s his job to get her off. However it seems as if it’s win by any means necessary, even if it’s calling her father a child molester. Normal people don’t do that, cause it’s a Fked up thing to do to another human being. Most people (not all) have a good moral compass. I understand what your saying though.
@Kaddywompous I don’t know how else to say what I’m trying to express. Your explaining his job to me. I’m talking about morals. Yes he has to provide the best possible defense with facts. Evidence that would prove his client is innocent or create reasonable doubt. I didn’t know it was ok to just concoct a story in order to do that thought. I think we just see this differently.
@TaniaBear And you assume he concocted a story. He didn’t. He presented a defense, and it’s not his responsibility, morally or otherwise, to assume his CLIENT is concocting a story.
@TaniaBear your point is dumb, it's his job and his moral compass has no place in the court room. Outside of it he can detest her as much as he wants, but in the court room it's his job to defend her the best he can, despite the morality. Just like the people who represent other killers and shooters or pedophiles
true story about outside they job is another story they do be worrying and despite the evidents and google search I am 9999999999999% sure if she was black it would of ended different
My original comment was about how I felt most of the people involved in the situation let Caylee down. Not about how I feel about all lawyers. You guys read one particular point in my comment you didn’t agree with and was like “ ya I’m going in for the kill”. Again, like I said yesterday, I understand.
@Kaddywompous I can bet the lawyer isn't hiring her as a babysitter. He he made society more dangerous. His job isn't to manipulate. He is there to give her the best defense. She DIDN'T have one, so he lied and manipulated the jury. That's not what the justice system is about.
@C men A lawyer's job isn't to lie and manipulate a jury. This verdict is on the defense, prosecution, and simple minded jury. Most of which since said they made a mistake.🤦🏻♀️
@TaniaBear I would give up responding to these people if I were you. You've stated that you get he's doing his job, just that in your opinion he's morally wrong. Mine too.
@Beto Castro nothing conclusive, look at your seach history and tell me. the smell is according to her parents, the police didnt smell or see anything about the car.
@Zinou Bensalah I have not searched up anything about suffocation, especially not the day that my daughter is miraculously suffocated with duct tape around her nose and mouth. Even if none of this evidence surfaced, the pool story makes LESS sense. Why would you try to hide the fact that your daughter had drowned? Why cover it all up? And why make claims about her childhood, being raped by her dad, that have absolutely no evidence provided (besides from claims stemming from a pathological liar.) It's also amusing how this dad rape story came after a 5 minute rant about not believing something if no evidence is provided along with it. Even if her daughter had drowned in a pool, why would she go out partying and getting feel-good tattoos? It was a late abortion, and there's no question about it.
@gu3z1 again, this is speculation that's not how justice works, I'm not saying she's innocent, and that rape story is not the reason she got away it's obviously bs but with your logic her dad should've been in jail too based on that claim with no evidence.
@Zinou Bensalah The rape story has no evidence. Casey's alleged murder has evidence, but no direct physical evidence. Quite a large leap in nuance, especially since people are sentenced to life in prison on the daily with no direct physical evidence linking them to the crime. You don't need a law degree, there are multiple videos on this channel alone showing cases where people were found guilty without the need for direct physical evidence.
And "how justice works" is pretty vague since justice is made-up concept that differs from country to country, and for some reason from state to state in the USA. Justice does not require a videotape of a person stabbing another to find someone guilty of manslaughter.
@Robin DS all the videos on this channel where there's no hard evidence linking the person to the crime are solved with a confession. if they cant get a confession from her than she's not going to jail since there nothing linking her to the crime scene. no DNA no nothing, sadly ofc.
@Zinou Bensalah no, also she was the only one person having access to each and every piece of evidence collected on the body (tape, blanket). This plus the diary plus her persona = guilty beyond any reasonable doubt imo. She had great legal advice tho
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
How many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@Francesco Silvestri excuse me what ? dont you guys have tape in the store ?? diary didnt mention her killing her daughter, she also had no guilt, her diary said like it was the best day she had or smth, even if she had guilt tho thats still not evidence to go to jail.
@Zinou Bensalah Excuse me, I do not agree :) too many circumstantial elements, including her psychological and behavioral modus, make imo a guilty verdict as the only logical conclusion. I was very unsatisfied, yet I recognize the truly great job from the attorney. Incredible professionals can achieve almost impossible goals. But if you ask me if any court judge would eat it, and not convict her, I'd say no, I don't think so
@Francesco Silvestri even if she was deemed guilty, she would just appeal and 100% win, and can probably even sue, you cant jail someone based on their psychological behaviour. she's a shitty mom that's clear but that's not a crime, unless they found her DNA with the corpse idk how they can convict her.
@Zinou Bensalah errrrrrrrrrrrr yeah, except they did find her dna on the victim, and nobody else's. Not a proof because she's the mother, yet the whole picture is highly incriminating. Note there was the testimony, too (father), describing the corpse smell in the car.
She is like: Mom, Dad can't we just forget about this missing daughter thing and celebrate her birthday as if she was still alive like we did when I dropped out of school? This whole situation is really inconvenient for me.
L Franco you need a highschool diploma or a GED for that... haven’t finished this video or researched her so idk if she went back and got that but yea she wouldn’t have made it thru and if she did pass boot camp she would have ended up getting kicked the fuck out... and/or been claiming fake rape... easily that type of person to get outa the military on medical discharge
@L Franco what would pushing her into the armed forces accomplish? do you think they'll just magically wash away her mental illnesses and social disorders or give her "direction" in her life?
@L Franco she wouldn't learn any discipline from it, she would continue to be completely fake and learn nothing other than how to more effectively manipulate and abuse her way through the ranks of the armed forces until she has more and more power over people
She's the most confident liar I've ever seen in my life. She doesn't even waver. It's insane. I've met and worked with a lot of liars and they would always stammer and back pedal when you cornered them. This chick is just slicker than grease the whole time.
She most likely feels no guilt associated with her lying, which makes it a lot easier. And she’s most likely deluded herself into believing every word she says.
@Kester for sure, but I've known a lot of people that don't have any guilt about their lies, they're just not quick enough on their feet. This chick is like nothing I've ever seen. Especially with the characters she makes up and her ability to just rattle off their names and back story. Its crazy she was let off.
Imagine that you have many routes (or "hallways"/"doors" as Casey Anthony calls them), and 1 path is the truth and an infinite number of paths that are not truths. To her, they all look the same and reality has very little bearing on how she feels and what she says. She simply picks the path that works in her favor at that time.
She did stammer, panicked and made that hallway analogy. It was right before the other person interrupted, though. She got extremely lucky. These interrogators really just let her joke around with them. Sleepy guys.
@Kester I think that's it, not only a lack of guilt, but an absence of various other inhibitions such as responsibility or fear of negative consequences, things that betray normal people when they lie.
It's like she's able to detach her mind from the truth to the point where she isn't even lying. She's just saying words.
Also the way Casey says to their parents that Caylee HAS BEEN lucky to have them as grandparents and then quickly corrects herself to “IS lucky”. That to me seems that she knew her daughter was no longer alive at that point. It was so clear all along that she’s guilty!
Has been is not had been. Casey has a drug problem with pot and alcohol and that’s a big problem. She’s an escapist which brings to question what is she escaping from which brings us back to her lying narcissist parents who threw their own daughter under the bus.
That Casey knew all along her child was dead was never really in dispute during the trial. Her defense argued that Caylee died in a pool accident which got covered up. The prosecution argued that Caylee died in a murder that got covered up. So both sides were in total agreement that Casey was lying and covering something up. They disagreed only on what was being covered up.
@JimboRustles It wasn't a crime to not report the death of a child at the time this case happened. But Florida (and a few other states) passed a law making it a crime soon afterwards, not by coincidence.
HAS BEEN is present tense. HAD BEEN is past. She did not contradict herself. To be clear, I'm not defending her egregious actions, just clarifying the use of tenses.
Has been is present tense (confusing because been is past, but has is always present). However, was it worded "has been lucky" or "I'm glad she's had you" I'm sorry I ended up zoning out cause the whole thing is so hard to watch. I do recall seeing her parents visibly distraught after Caylee was brought up as if Casey had slipped up and used past tense and the mom caught that.
@Jooniper Lynn Yeah, you are totally right about that. I just thought it was werid for some reason... but it's true, "has been" is still present tense. Hm... but still why then changed it to "is lucky"?? Idk maybe I'm looking too deep into this. xD
@JimboRustlesIf the prosecution didn't choose to roll the dice on the first degree murder charge. A lesser charge might well have lead to a guilty verdict.
legal defense is pay to win in a lot of cases. I have an aunt who does legal work with a charity devoted to helping young girls that are victims of human trafficking when she can, often assisting in both prosecution of child traffickers and defense of trafficked kids; the ratio of cases she wins prosecuting pimps pro bono with a massive amount of irrefutable evidence vs the cases she wins defending teenage (or younger) clearly being victimized by pimps and family charged with related thefts, truancy, drug use and solicitation charges is unbelievably depressing...
@james reid yeah man it's rough on her. she poured everything in her into that work for a long time and it took a lot from her but have her a lot too. she took about 3 or 4 years in between taking the new york bar (which is the one that people take to be able to practice in any state due to difficullty) and worked full time giving counsel with them and doing any a lot of legal work outside the courtroom and those were the best years of her life at points and the worst at points. we are all proud of her. she put so much into it and even when as far as to legally adopted a 17 year old who was being trafficked by her step dad to avoid her (the 17 year old) kid getting taken from her after a trial surrounding her drug use didn't go to well and the state attempted to put the baby in the foster system and my aunt took care of them until she turned 18 and they are all thriving now from what I know. my aunt wasnt even 30 at the time but managed to win custody quick enough by getting the people involved sympathetic like the official case lawyer couldn't get the jury in my cousin's trial. wonderful woman, but I doubt she could have handle that work full time much longer, she's far too kind and sensitive to have to be dealing with the worst situations full time like that.
To be fair, that’s a false dichotomy. There are more options than those two. She very well could be an evil and incredibly miserable person, who simply didn’t give a shit about her daughters accidental death.
@Agent Bubble They weren’t able to prove anything about the duct tape. Reading the case you’ll find that analysis showed that the duct tape was never applied to the skin, but simply present after her death in order to secure whatever bag her corpse was inside of.
I feel helpless and impotent after seeing this. Why would she ever be spared, period. She got away with filicide, that shouldn't ever be a true statement, ever. I am disgusted.
The jury seemed to think that they couldn't convict her of 1st degree murder beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt (Even though the evidence was comically overwhelming), so they were honor bound not to convict her of anything at all. That's a really silly thing to think, Casey proved herself not deserving of that kind of hand-wringing sympathy and clinging to technicalities.
I'm felt helpless & disturbing.. the google search about suffocation.. the lies to her parents, investigator, even a small talk contains lies.. How can you trust someone if they can't even make a bit true in the beginning? Crazy world we living..
reka10 her lawyer was excellent, i remember he defended aaron hernandez who was already in jail for one murder but he was on trial for the double murder of two men and people knew he killed those two bc the guy he killed that led to his arrest was the person who first found out, the lawyer was famous for defending people who very obviously did the crime and getting their sentence shortened or not even having a sentence, he’s somewhat of a celebrity lawyer now but yeah i don’t think the prosecuter dropped the ball as much as the lawyer was just super good
I said my comment talking about parents MURDERING their living, already developed, already thinking and with their own will and personality kids. No soul or mention of God was intended in my comment. It is fundamentally different to abortion because in that case it is carefully done when the embryo doesn't have enough development to have thoughts or feel pain. At this point your thoughts on religion, soul and what a human life actually is it's just an opinion and shouldn't be used as a mean to disrespect or attack others.
@Andraca The Duck King lolol I meant to say powerless, but since english isn't my 1st language and in spanish we use the world "impotencia" interchangeably for both meanings, that why I use that. But welp, I am asexual, so being impotent isn't a big issue lololol
@zelikris I understand, no evidence by it's own, but the collection of all the evidence was overwhelmingly clear. This is so clear if you consider the main defense strategy was to focus the attention on the most specific parts of the whole case.
@TruncateCar3 I am not, I am sorry. Also you are intentionally using the words "unborn children" and "murder" and not embryo because you want to make me feel like a bastard without feelings. But an abortion within the right time period is not legally a murder, those words are your opinion, not mine. Thus I am not dehumanising anything because that's not a human YET for me, and I am not justifying murder because that is not legally a murder.
if she didn't want her child anymore, she literally could have just left her with her parents. they seem to actually care for her, and would've been excellent parents. and seeing how big of a liar casey is and how gullible her parents were, she could've easily made up a lie as to why she didn't want to take care of her.
The whole video revolves around analyzing her lies, but we never really found a conclusive reason why she would even do such a disgusting thing. Why would she kill her own child in the first place? Right? Who in their right mind would actually murder their own child? Even if you (pretending you're a parent) became very mad and your child did something very dislikeable, the most you would probably do is punish him/her maybe physical violence/abuse but not to the point of death. At most disowning your child, but why murder?
I am truly mindboggled, and it couldn't have been an accident as the body literally had duct tape on the mouth. The strong evidence suggests that she definitely murdered her on purpose.
@Knight Siegmund You said it yourself: nobody in their right mind would do it. There is your answer ;) Although it would be interesting to known why she wasn't in her right mind, to find out why she did it.
@Knight Siegmund Given she lied her way through shit and seems to not really care, what if she did it because she wanted to? No other reason she just. wanted to kill a kid.
@I her mom basically tried to confront Casey while she was doing drugs. i dont think she was in her right mimd to begin w bc almost anytime she was out, she was partying, drinking, sex, and drugs. she threw a whole child away bc she mightve thought that she was young an wanted to live her life as wild as she wanted.
Its very sad that Caylee was born to a woman that hasnt learned to grow up and take responsibility.
@GoldFlitter nah you're getting emotional about the case, which is exactly what the jury is not supposed to do. Based on the facts and evidence presented, there's no certainty she did it
@GoldFlitter if you have an abundance of evidence please provide it to the police so she can go to jail, obviously there isn't. If there was she'd be in jail
@Arabella 5245 that doesn't prove she was murdered by her mother beyond a reasonable doubt. It fits how you want it to be, but the jury has to base their decision on the evidence
Lol that's funny. The jurors were plenty smart enough. You have to give them something to work with. There should be certain IQ minimums for the prosecutor's office. They fucked that case up beyond any hope. The jury actually came to the proper verdict with the evidence provided. The truth is Casey and her attorney were the 2 smartest people in the room at all times.
No you could say they had a higher IQ then you, you want to convict out of emotion instead of facts. Even if you thought the person was guilty it needs to be from the facts presented/allowed, not your emotions or 'rumors". Therefore their IQ was higher then yours,they stuck to the rules.... sorry but true.
The prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
@Gary Schultz ?? lol do you realize how absurd your last comment was. You mention French then tell me to stick with English. Ya I'll take the last word for the win!!
@Tatyana Romanov you're completely missing the point. Yes, technically they did the proper thing according to the rules. But they just let a child murdering pathological liar go with a slap on the wrist. That's absolutely not ok, and that mean that our justice system has some serious flaws that should be improved.
@MCΔT I only answered the original post, I wasn't missing the point, you are adding in points. Their IQ wasn't low at all because they did the right thing despite the temptation to override the system and send her to jail. I think that takes a higher IQ.
@MCΔT no we are not talking a different kind of intelligence, the original post by "Storm" mentioned IQ. Change his post all you want but I was answering "storm".
@Tatyana Romanov you're an excellent example of someone I really wouldn't want as a juror. Being able to interpret what someone means to say instead of taking it completely literally and nitpicking little details to manipulate their argument is almost more important than fully understanding the laws in my opinion
@MCΔT ?? There were hundreds of posts on here, I put in my 2 cents on a post I didn't find correct in my opinion. You come along and change the post to whatever you wanted to argue about...Now veering way off the first guys post...We were talking IQ for the jurors!! I am the EXACT type you want as a juror, I look past what's "right" and what's "wrong" and go off the evidence provided regardless of my feelings!! You are ALL emotional and not in control, you would convict on hearsay and appearance you would be the WORST type of juror.
@Tatyana Romanov the only one getting emotional right now is you. My point is that yeah, he was talking about IQ but what his argument was predicated on is that the jurors made the wrong decision. You argued that that was incorrect and they did, and that decision shows that they actually do have a high IQ. Im arguing that IQ means nothing and agreeing with the original comment that they made the wrong decision, and the fact that they technically made the correct one reflects a problem in the justice system.
@GoldFlitter All circumstantial. No hard evidence proves the mother did it. That's the point. Yes, she obviously did it, but the jury did their job, which was to evaluate whether or not the prosecution proved BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that Casey murdered her child. If you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at the state attorneys for failing to get enough undeniable proof.
@Arabella 5245 All horrible, obviously she did it, but it still wasn't proved beyond a reasonable doubt in court. The jury, sadly, did their duty. Blame the state prosecution, they failed at presenting the evidence in a way that would make it clear and obvious with no doubt, because they thought they had an open and shut case. Doubtless, they were stunned at the verdict, as is evidenced by their body language at the end of the trial.
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Me too. I also started watching Jennifer's solution, cause it was recommend to me a week ago. Now I am hooked and love this channel. I hope for more videos like these
That's funny I know exactly what you're saying but this channel is so fascinating the psychological aspect how people act, react. I cannot believe she was found not guilty another OJ verdict. I tell you what's addicting going on websleuths, plunder, profiling evil those guys are awesome retired profilers detectives FBI agents check it out it's pretty cool.
People actually Defending Jennifer's actions & Saying the Detectives where being Overly aggressive and Deceitful & that You should never talk to the police & remain silent unless and demand a lawyer. Say that the interogation methods would make them admit to a crime they didn't commit. These people Need to Take their Meds or Turn themselves in.
I started with the legend of tony I think was his name. Then went to the kid who cut up the girl that lives next door. There’s some straight up spooky people that walk the earth! 😳
Looks like WE are going to need help. I started with Stephanie Lazarus' interrogation yesterday. Then I watched Jennifer's solution last night. This morning I woke up and played this. I think I have a problem. 😒
Same Same....I have been ordered to self-quarantine last 6 days ago and I was bored af and watching agt some horror shit and now i found this channel and can't even stop watching one after another....🔥
Sorry cant help my journey is just begining lol I cant help myself cold case mystery stories are my downfall now i found this channel I'll be stuck here with you! Who wants the popcorn lol..
which are some of the best episodes that I shouldn't miss? anyone got a few titles? well I actually sound sadistic to use to word 'best' when it comes to crime.
Well, I don't binge it (only so much harrowing shit I can absorb) but yeah, excellent channel and frankly, better than most stuff on Netflix. That Russel Williams one though....
You think that is bad? I started three months ago. Binge watched every video on YouTube and then decided to donate on Patreon and now binge watch between YouTube and Patreon. This is my third time watching this video.
I’m here after learning about narcissists and psychopaths from HG Tudor channel, I recommend that, some things that seem erratic and unexplainable make sense after you learn from him.
I’m the opposite of everyone, I haven’t watched Jennifer yet but I’m watching that one next! I think I started here on the Stephanie Lazarus and it’s been a bender of these videos since then. I’m excited to watch the Jennifer one because everyone has hyped it up so much
How do you drown in a swimming pool but your skeletal remains are discovered with duct tape over your nose and mouth in a swamp?!? Seriously Florida?! The whole state should be ashamed of this!
They def dropped the ball on this one. When they interviewed a juror he said the only reason they couldn't convict her was not knowing cause of death to fully rule out accident. It's just crazy to me. I've see trials they didn't know cause of death bc the body sat so long undiscovered and they still got a guilty verdict. It's so sad this baby got no closure. And to think she's just living her life like normal and Is a private investigator now?!?!
It is completely bizzare. My guess is, this is an example of why death penalty, even in such horrific cases, is not a good idea. Besides being irreversible in case of mistakes, it can dimminish the reporting rate, influence a jury, the witnesses etc. in the sence of haveng a burden of responsibility for someones life. Guilty or not.
@dadada This is absolutely true. There could also be jurors who don't believe in the death penalty at all in which case their verdict would certainly be not guilty regardless. But just in general most people would be far more hesitant in killing someone unless they can be absolutely certain they are guilty.
I think they are ashamed, and no double jeopardy. Hate to say it cuz she belongs in jail, but her lawyer did exactly what he was supposed to do. Create just a little bit of doubt and the jurors fell for it.
@Michael Vukovic Yep. I don't think anybody should be pointing the finger at the Defence Lawyer. I thought he did a fantastic job from a legal perspective, but she is as guilty as sin. No doubt in my mind over that.
@Velcro and ultimately, the defense lawyer was just doing their job. If he didn't, someone else would have, anyway. Truthfully, it's as much of a tragedy as the OJ Simpson trial, where the jurors somehow get blinded by a single piece of almost inconsequential information and then proceed to acquit the very obviously guilty defendant. At least with Simpson they had the excuse that he was a public figure, I have no idea what could have coloured their opinions on this time.
@Yella Franillax I don't doubt it Paul. I think the OP is making a bit of a leap to blame all of Florida just because of one failed case. Love from Ireland!
What I'm more amazed is how she still got away with not guilty after they said she died in the family pool, if that was true, why not just immediately call help? She's still guilty even if she didn't kill her on purpose, she hid evidence/information, only a guilty person does that... This is ridiculous.. and I can't believe that there are ppl like her lawyer that feel ok to free a guilty person, I hope one day he feels the other edge of the sword and what it really feels like to not have justice
@Fed Up Southern Girl Do you know how many old cases have been prooven to be wrong after the fact in the whole of the USA since DNA was introduced and became more sophisticated? Hundreds of proovenly wrongfully convicted and executed. Not saying this is the case here ...
These Florida comments crack me up. Ah, the ignorance. Look up whats referred to as the Sunshine or Public Records law in Florida and get back to me.
There’s your reason why the state is always in the news.
The records are released almost instantaneously to the public, so a fresh story is a lot easier to sell. If you don’t see that, you’re missing the point.
Ikr. If your child drowns wouldn't you take them to a hospital? Hope that perhaps the doctors can do SOMETHING? No normal mum would slap on duct tape and dump the body.
Do you really have to blame Trump for everything? The Prosecution was not thorough enough. If they had even a shred of evidence linking her to the crime scene, the defense's argument would've fallen apart. They took this to court too soon thinking they could win this with facts alone. If they spent just a little bit more time to find something linking her to the burial site, this wouldn't have happened.
@ForktaildevilP38J The jury is often not allow to have all of the evidence due to legal dealings between the prosecutor, the defense, and the judge. It’s a sick game they play in jury trials.
Look I hate this outcome as much as anyone else, but this is actually the justice system working. Someone or some members of the jury felt like the case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt and so they didn't convict. That's how it's supposed to go.
@NillyC (lets say Caylee did die in a pool, even though there's no proof). If she really thought that throwing her drowned child's body in a swamp, and then partying for a month or so later was a normal thing to do, then I think your comment was giving her a little too much credit.
Believe me, as someone who lived in FL throughout this entire thing, I can assure you were were all upset and shocked. The jurors were lazy and received death threats after admitting they just wanted to go home. MEANWHILE people ALL OVER THE COUNTRY SENT. HER. MONEY. So, no, not just FL should be ashamed. I don’t know a single Floridian that thinks Casey should’ve walked.
@Andreia G. The defense said George told her not to call the police and that he would handle it. There was a quote they brought up that was his reaction after he found out. That was the reasonable doubt since there was no DNA. Seriously so many people here did not see the trial.
@jjjonse Correct. They had that doctor come in and dispute it for at least a day. The defense claimed it came from the dump site and the area was under water for awhile.
John Jones dont say that if u dont live in Florida. For one as someone who actually grew up there, its amazing and beautiful, and like every state, has its bad apples, however by law our bad apples are transparently displayed to the media
@Fed Up Southern Girl Not if you are found "Not Guilty". Double Jeopardy ensures you cannot be tried twice for the same crime. And since she was found not-guilty on all counts, she pretty much got a free ticket. (appeals can occur when you are found guilty, retrials can occur when you have a hung-jury. But a Not Guilty verdict is like a Willy Wonka Golden Ticket.
Maria Grace well yeah considering how shitty things are now with everything on fire and America leading numbers in a pandemic.... the Obama era was way better🤷
dadada It’s also ridiculously expensive to try capital cases and house death row prisoners. “In California, the death penalty has cost more than $4 billion since 1978. That includes the costs of trials, appeals, and incarceration on death row. In 2019, the California governor issued a moratorium on the death penalty. In Florida, enforcing the death penalty costs $51 million a year more than it would have to give all first-degree murderers life in prison without parole. In North Carolina, death penalty cases cost $2.16 million per execution more than sentencing murderers to life imprisonment.”
You know what they say: When someone dies in a beach, it's drowning. "But they had 5 bullet holes across it's body". "Are you a morgue specialist of some kind? Let the professionals decide the cause of death"
Jessica Falconer wow they thought it was an accident she ended up with duck tape over her mouth and found in the swamp. I don’t get it. That says it wasn’t an accident right?
Florida is like this bizarro land inbreed crooked broken mirrors reflection version of California in so many ways. A very odd strange and ugly place inside...
@Maria Grace the comment referred to your collective intelligence. Voted for Trump, "Florida Man" headlines, etc. Has nothing to do with who was president when it happened.
I will never understand this system of the jury you've got in USA. Here in Italy we've got a single judge who decides everything. If we had a jury made of common people I guess most of mafia bosses thanks to the skills of their lawyers would be out free after having murdered hundreds of people
@Andreia G. died in pool,maybe it is an accident.then maybe she panic, stupid,lazy, forgetful, selfish or having a a short 30 day amnesia.the vehicle belong to her.but anyone can staged the incident on their own backyard..so in the end,must prove it beyond doubt.absolutely no doubt 5000%!.Life is test.On the day of resurrection,God will give Judgement
@Mz C oh, my dear, you must educate yourself on the "justice" in other countries and societies...you have no idea the horrors, but even in other parts of the Western world murderers and criminals get off easily -- this is a case, not a country.
My parents lost my brother at a baseball game by accident because they thought the other was taking him home. They freaked out and rushed to the field. He wasn't there. They rush home and are about to call the police (This was in 2002) when they realise the coach took him home. They were so relieved. That was a maximum of 30 minutes. Casey lost her daughter for 30 days and never got scared. She deserves to rot in hell
I lost my son for about 2 min while at a science discovery center when he was 5. The second I noticed he was missing the room began to get dark and spin, all the while a million horrible things ran thru my head and i began freaking out and yelling out his name. He was literally behind a sign about 2 feet in front of me. That was the worst kind of panic and anxiety I have ever felt and thank goodness my son was just out of sight 🙏🏼 Casey has no fkn soul. Her poor parents 😞
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Jane Doe X2020-08-04 03:34:28 (edited 2020-08-04 03:35:45 )
l cried and ran around jn the snow when my cat ran unusually late one winter night....when he finally ran towards me he stopped and looked at me like : "What the hell ? You good? You look crazy human...!" He has never seen me so hysterical...
(We had lost a cat before that just disappeared like thin air...and would have never left just for fun. He never went further than a few houses and the field in between them...)
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Story Time Nails2020-08-04 04:07:19 (edited 2020-08-04 04:15:45 )
We went to a water park, part of a large amusement park, and my much older friend was watching my daughter while I changed into my swimsuit. In those 5 minutes the dumb b lost my kid, who had never been lost. I FREAKED out. Like completely lost it. She went on a giant slide, by herself, at 3 years old because she’s always been fearless like that.
The security did a great job shutting the shit down until she was found. A lady saw her and brought her to me bc by this time she had been gone like 20 minutes and everyone was looking for her. The entire time I was inconsolable, wanted to kick the lady’s ass I was with and then so freaking relieved. Idk if I’ve ever felt relief like that again. Never talked to that friend ever again, either.
I panic if I can’t hear my daughter in the other room knowing that she’s too young to be able to go outside on her own yet and knowing I’d hear anyone enter the apartment so kidnapping isn’t logical.
@Lilian McGuian, That's what normal parents and people will do. What is even more disturbing is that she refers to her daughter in the present tense. Hardened professional criminals are unable to do that for as long as she did.
I lose my child in a shop for 1 second and I panic! My heart sinks. My stomach is in knots. I have a lump in my throat. How a woman can go 31 days without having an absolutely meltdown is beyond me.
Did she? Lmao. Just passed the moment when the narrator speaks how she has always got away with everything when she was younger. I have no idea how she could get away with this though.
@Misaaami Or ya know, the incident lterallly took place in the USA, his video was made/uploaded by a citizen and TheBarthL's question was posed in fluent English (more fluent than your own), not Polish. Soooo, yeah. Super. Cute.
@Matthew Robertson In the age of the internet, you can watch anyone's content and take an interest in any incidents, regardless of said person's nationality or the place said incident took place. Also, almost everyone you can encounter on YouTube speaks english to a degree. (I am not one for this type of "apply cold water to the burned area" communication bollocks, but you started this and I am not against the fun of it.) Sooooo yeah... Still. Super. Cute.
@Libor Zvědělík My comment implied that it's not out of the question for one to assume that TheBarthL is from the USA. Nothing more. Pretty simple stuff.
Matthew Robertson so he should write in polish? 😀 Wake up. English is an international language and youtube is not for americans only, as people might think cause you know, murica is the center of the world
Jennifer D I’m Aussie and heard this story on news channels, was definitely covered on abc and I believe SBS. Pretty sure it had segments on the mainstream news channels as well.
Some of what I see on these replies is pure ridiculousness, and I might add that as an American while I have absolutely heard the name “Casey Anthony” in the past I never knew the story behind this person, and I’ve never found any reason to look into it until lovely JCS came along and piqued my interest on the psychology of criminals. so zip up those pants and let’s put away the tape measures
She caught herself saying "caylee HAD the best grandparents" so she had to say "and still HAS" ... And she's celebrating over eating cole slaw as if this is all a big celebration of herself! She's so gross
I thought the same thing and I know she is guilty but if you listen closely she actually says "Caylee's had the best grandparents" which also means "Caylee has had" which doesn't catch her showing she knows Caylee is dead. It's subtle but i think it's important...She's definitely guilty as hell though.
She's the quintessential spoiled child. This is a person who has never in their life dealt with consequences, and is entitled to the point of psychosis. Lol at getting snappy and rude with her family on that phone call. She murdered that child. But she had a legal team that made OJ's team look like public defenders.
@Meinhart Vallar exactly, she literally wrote down the decision to kill her. The freaking browser history dude. The irony, at the end , is the fact that her father/parents let her walk out free. He took the blame for his child , even though he knows. He said in an interview he's out of her life and "he just can't trust her" .
Exactly. And now she is living a glamorous life, laughing, partying, and getting snappy with anyone she likes. She won, she proved that she is entitled. That's killing me.
The way this woman speaks to her parents makes me sad. They’ve clearly spoiled her and cushioned her from a lot, but it’s clear they love her and, as someone who used to have the worst relationship with my parents as a teen, it’s astounding that a grown ass woman accused of murdering her child can be so ignorant
@Brian Haygood Sexual abusers have no conscience and no shame and don't feel guilt or remorse. They are all sociopaths and feel entitled to exploit anyone they like. That is not Casey's dad and I don't believe he ever sexually abused her. She had told so many lies and made up so many stories to cover up what she did, and she never told a soul she had been abused until she was called to account for the murder of her child.
@x 12 as usual, it depends, you can't just put a label on everything looking though the prism of "your actions are your responsibility" or "your actions are your parents responsibility" or "it depends on the age". no, it really doesn't work that way, each situation has its own causes and consequences and if you don't have time or desire to consider every detail then just don't bother trying and you'll be better off acting the way smarter people tell you to otherwise you'll end up causing more harm than good. this woman is obviously not a normally functioning person, she doesn't understand simple concepts and is only concerned about herself, not even about what others will think of herself, she just doesn't give a shit about anything except her own well-being which is completely fucked up and not okay and this is a result of poor parenting. simple example: she was always lying and doing dumb shit and always got away with it because her parents loved her to the point of truth denial and this obviously continued for her whole life so she developed a very harmful concept of not caught = not guilty which led to her becoming a pathological liar. you don't just fix that, it's deep inside of her brain on a physical level, it's like trying to make a nymphomaniac become monogamous, you will just end up with an endless (and most likely a very short one) loop of relapse and remission. and considering your categorical approach i want to remind you that i'm not saying "once a thief - always a thief", i'm talking about this exact situation of this exact person and the analogy is picked very carefully since lying and cheating work very much alike especially since the first is often involved into the latter
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@pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease look She knows what she did was wrong Like every criminals
Everyone knows what is good and bad after becoming adult except people with disabilities
Every criminal knows they did something bad thats the reason why they plan out things to hide their dids
You know right and wrong when you are with your friends other people you see behaving in certain way you don't only live with your parents
She was totally normal person
She was extremely dependent on other people not willing to working hard
Many people i know had horrible parents and many of them had extremely wealthy spoiled background but they still are working hard
things like lying/alcohol/ her life style made her that way
I was gobsmacked when caseys best friend christina started getting upset on the phone about if anything happens to caylee and caseys reaction was to say the call was a waste! She is a monster
This 'story' appears to be a movie. An advertising movie for the law firm? As evidenced by the last remarks of Casey's Attorney's. How & why was a big time Celebrity Investigator used? Nothing makes sense, reality wise or legally.. The 'penis' remark to the jury was odd, Caylee drowned, but nothing more was said about it?, the only 'evidence' was a Disney bottle near the remains? Disney? Oh come on!, and the biggest bullshit of all..pics from a computer search on suffocation that: 1. wasn't confiscated, but had a photo of it? 2. Casey 'erased' after they were found? 🙄 To me, Casey appears to be in acting overload. And now, she apparently lives in West Palm Beach with the 'investigator' on her 'case'. I call bullshit. Patrick McKenna called George Anthony "bizarre"..& said: "Their granddaughter’s remains had just been found and they’re sitting around booking television interviews and talking about how much money their foundation is making.”
Malaise Lindenfeld ... don’t you think the facts about where and how she was found ultimately blow that lie out of the water... bitter, poignant pun intended.
Sharon Waltman I personally believe that with the evidence (even if not justified) she drowned her in chloroform hence the back seat having high amounts of it. She wrapped her up in her Winnie the Pooh sheet, put her in the laundry basket, and tossed her in the backseat until she threw the remains and ditched the car somewhere after.
I'm so sad... This person was released? I only watched 30 mins of it and I felt that she did it immediately. How can you be so calm when your kid is missing? I'm so sad. I shouldn't of watched this it's so sad and this person just gets to continue to live their life free when people who do say less worse stuff can spend like years in jail, and shes just out there right now while those people who've paid for their crimes are just like still in there
Literally started crying in the shower about this, which is a new crying spot for me. I just I am so deeply saddened by this, I was an unwanted and unloved child and it just breaks my heart for that this happened to another young girl that didn't do anything but paid the price of having shit parents but for this little girl like 10000000000x worse because how can you harm your toddler?
Oh fuck no!!!!! She is not using abuse as a way out no way. Listen here people I was abused and I was raped by people in my family. I told someone they didn't care. But does that mean I go around turning into a lying piece of shit? No no no no no you don't get to blame killing a kid on rape no that's not how it works!!!!!! If that was how it works my parents and my family gave me just about a gazillion reasons to be a horribly lying piece of poop. I am a broken person and so is everyone else in my life but they does not give anyone the right to hurt others and people who think it does are stupid and selfish and there must just be something wrong with them and I hate them. I hate you if you can be raped and beaten and broken down by someone who's suppose to love you and then go right around and do it to others? Especially other innocent people, it just makes me sick.
@K M Weekes be aware of all red herrings. They are a defense attorneys dream and they are a weapon they use against innocent jurist. They had enough evidence to convict. They got thrown by the child abuse from dad which was never proven, a red herring and does not justify murder. I was abused by all the boys in my family and my father and never killed my kid.
@Sharon Waltman not saying she did not kill her daughter. She most likely did. Just pointing out that it would be illogical for het to say she drowned and the go look for the killer.
@Dita Zamberga having a child drown? It can happen im a split second. That said, even though I normally like to play devil's advocate and tend to believe in people's innocence, I think Casey Anthony killed her own daughter.
That’s exactly it, there were so many lies that the jury by the end didn’t know what to believe . She made prosecuting her almost impossible by fabricating so many things and her family STUPIDLY backing her up
@Jim J They're not mutually exclusive. I'm talking about specifically in this case. In O.J.'s case, it's best not to let the flaming racist be the one to gather glove evidence.....is a good rule of thumb.
There has to be physical evidence to create a prosecution, without direct physical evidence or unscrupulous probable cause they can’t create a foundation for conviction. Even with motive, speculation and intention they can not create a undoubtable conviction due to lack of direct evidence or proof. This is the problem with the judicial system it’s not what you know it’s what you can prove and if a crime lacks direct physical evidence, not here say or suspicion there can not be a conviction.
It’s disgusting to know she’s walking free. The only reason is because the evidence was messed with. She should’ve been locked away for good, literal psychopath.
I highly doubt it is that clearcut.. That family is beyond dysfunctional (the mother is clearly narcissistic and Casey appears to suffer from BPD - potentially induced by sexual abuse in her childhood at the hands of her father, as per her defence). Caylee was almost certainly murdered, but by whom is - incredibly - still open for debate.
@Dingleberry I am amazed at how you are defending her just like the lawyer. There is no reason to tape both her nose and mouth with duct tape if she accidentally drowned, add to it her search history, her diary entry, tattoo, and partying within a month of her child it is pretty clear what happened. Don't act like it is considered fact that she was in fact abused, she has been lying since day one, and there is absolutely zero confirmation anywhere that she actually was abused. All you have is her word, and it has already been established time and time again, that the one thing that we know absolutely for sure, is that she lies like no other.
I, however, disagree with Michayla, Casey should not be sent to jail.
@Dingleberry it's clear she had her daughter's dead body in the back of her car for some time and lied about it. I believe if she had been male she'd would have been found guilty but she was able to manipulate society's bias that mothers put the needs of their children first, steadfastly kept to her lies to maintain doubt and had an exceptional defense lawyer.
are evidence when you think about what evidence you need to convict her this is a tough one DNA would be a problem as there would DNA everywhere as well as fingerprints what you need is a confession or a video showing her killing and dumping the body
Yep, when the world is run my psychopaths, stuff like this is allowed to happen. The guilty walk free, and the innocent are convicted with the most severe sentences.
Dingleberry don’t you DARE LIKEN CASEY ANTONY TO PEOPLE WITH BPD. Not even CLOSE. And the sexual abuse claims were investigated and no merit was found, so watch what you accuse people of without evidence
pN Gaming not true. When your charges are read out in court, the jury either responds with a “guilty” or “not guilty” verdict. You need to show proof beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict someone of a serious crime such as murder. If the jury still finds a shadow of doubt despite the evidence, they can return a “not guilty” verdict. They CANNOT rule you innocent or exonerate you of a crime. What are they, god?? Where they all there and watched you during the crime and know for a fact you’re 100% innocent? that’s ridiculous
Casey: I was an event coordinator JCS Narrator: She wasn’t. She worked behind a kiosk that took pictures for the Incredible Hulk ride. JCS can be ruthless sometimes.
My heart dropped after hearing Casey's best friend crying, asking about the baby. Made me shed a tear. And that sicko replying that the call was a waste of time...
@dnl303 -- Well, neither "psychopath" nor "sociopath" are official psychological terms. So if you want to get precise, she's got signs of antisocial personality disorder. Regardless of anything else, she clearly lacks empathy and is only focused on herself. She could be anywhere along the Cluster B personality disorder scale.
@elleohel I think that the judge should have put some sort of thing in place to prevent Casey from profiting off Caylee's death, like Casey would with a book deal.
So since Casey “didn’t” kill her daughter, who did? Like they’re just gonna close the case? She was found not guilty but who else could have done it? Unbelievable.
You might not have finished the video. Her daughter drowned in the pool (filled with duct tape apparently), according to the defendant's party. And that's what the jury has accepted with the verdict
@Olivier why would she admit to another prisoner that she killed her own child? I’ve never been to prison before but from what I’ve heard people like baby killers don’t get it easy 😬
Devin Roskos - In today's degraded paradigm, it doesn't matter what you've done; even killing a child. As long as you identify as a 'victim', you'll get away with, quite literally, murder!!! Victimhood automatically grants you a 'Get out of Jail free' card! If we haven't figured that one out by now, we haven't been paying attention!!!
@BiggestBoofer I doubt that. People who lie as freely and without conscious as she does tend to keep lying. I bet even if she learned she only had 24 hours to live she would not say what really happened 😑
@Dez Dandy - You seem to have a bit of an 'agenda' going on yourself, it seems! I think it entirely inappropriate to bring 'color' and being 'white' into a tragedy of such gravity, yet you've conveniently overlooked those comments! So who exactly turned 'a child death into a completely different issue'!! It's quite astonishing how you have entirely ignored the statement (indeed, several statements) that elicited my response!!
She didn't deserve justice or any other idealistic values which the society holds dear. She's dead, nothing matters to her anymore. The society wants to feel good about itself and fight for her justice. It's baffling how narcissistic we are when we think punishing someone can compensate for the loss of something as precious as life. The only reason we punish the murderer is because we are afraid that they are still dangerous and might harm the society even more, not for the dead child. It's just satisfying ourselves.
@Sourabh Jadhav so basically you're saying actions should have no consequences? And murderers should not be punished because their victims are already dead so it doesnt matter? Justice is pointless and laws should not be followed? What a load of horseshit. Every action has a reaction, the things you do matter and consequences should be suffered. When you hurt someone, you should not go unpunished because you have no right to hurt someone. You have no right to murder a human being and if you do you MUST pay for it. That's not narcissism, that's right and fair. Wanna commit a crime, well then, you should be prepared to face the consequences for it, whatever they may be. The system FAILED Caylee, her life was taken brutally and no one paid for it, the crime committed against her went unpunished, basically means she was not deserving of justice, she couldnt defend herself and no one else did. It's not about making others feel good about themselves, it's about the criminal paying for what she did. Laws are put in place for a reason, without justice and punishment the world would be in chao, even more than it already is. Also, you saying a murdered little girl deserves no justice is just sick and disturbing.
Does this justice give back the child her opportunity to experience life ? No. I say it again she doesn't deserve justice,it's useless for her, what she deserves is a chance at life. Everything else is horseshit. Everything else is for the society and its self serving needs. Laws are a medium to contain chaos, sure, I'm not arguing about that. But I'm saying that the justice is for the society's beliefs not for the girl. It's a feel good mechanism for everyone else who are horrified by the crime. It's a reassurance to the society that the world is safe to live in. All of it for their own self. Nothing for the child.
Nevertheless, I understand your outlook, it's the most common one.
@r.m. are you seriously romans 1:20 ing me. Or are you saying that in order for life to exist at all there needs to be something that created it. If so what created god. If you are saying all I need to do is look at nature then I would say all you have to do is look at nature and see that your bible is wrong about most things when It proclaims to know things about nature or the origins of life. Why should I believe something with insufficient evidence
@r.m. Not to be rude but I have yet to see the evidence of god... some people and book wouldn't make me believe in it.. and if god is all powerful and good he/she/it should help when it happens and not afterwards in the form of justice
When Casey’s dad heard for the first time that he sexually assaulted her when she was younger he was probably like “dang, I don’t remember that ever happening, but our daughter doesn’t lie and her attorney is so good... My bad, Casey!”
MonsterKat I don’t believe so. The attorney was talking about her being sexually abused at 8 years old. Her daughter was only 3. Unless I missed that part somewhere along the way (or if was mentioned somewhere else besides this video).
@Racer X idk. Maybe he didn't mind to save his daughter. I mean I'd never have it that way. If you kill a child you're dead to me. But he seems to love her through it all
@CrossFoot I thought about that too , the parents are well aware of who she is , they created and enabled her. You would think they would just let her go but I guess," all for one and one for all "
I saw an interview with the child killers parents and her father stated he has no relationship with her now but the mother does. She tore so many lives apart and just skipped away. Wtf!! Come on Karma... Caylee is waiting on you😢😢😢💔💔💔😢😢😢
The father and mother didn't seem shocked sat in court when her lawyer said that in graphic detail. It wouldn't surprise me if they told her it's ok to say that. Also how can they be supportive of her, and to this day when they now know she googled how to suffocate a child, etc?
@MonsterKat they said Casey was abused by her father as a child explaining her strange reactions to this and other bad things in her life. Not Caylee the little girl.
So his defense was that even tho she was a liar, she had a good reason for being so. But then the opposition attorney did not use that opportunity to point out that if Casey is a liar, then undoubtedly lied about not killing her daughter?
@Anastasiya Sam That's not how evidence works. If people really want the full story, they have to understand WHY things happened the way they did. You don't have to agree or support it for it to be true.
@air breather it would not be used as evidence. The same way the lawyer was trying to make ppl have a good opinion of his client's character and trustworthy with a sexual abuse story for which there is no evidence, the other lawyer could have used this opportunity to lower their opinion of her character.
@Anastasiya Sam The proof has to be presented by the prosecutors, not the defense. It's innocent until proven guilty. Obviously the defense is going to try and reverse the massive amount of negative press that preceded far before the actual court appearances. It's really easy to take a stand against something wrong, but it's a lot harder to understand why and how it happened.
@Joel Alexander There wa son evidence presented for it, but while she was gone her father had searched for chloroform and neck breaking. It was also found in the back of her car and on her parent's property.
@air breather they wasn't sure it was her that googled about suffocation? I know the mother said it was her that googled chloroform and that it was a mistake.
@mr Meerkat It was in the bookmarks and was searched at least twice. Plus it was found on their property along with their daughters trunk. The cause if death was offically undetermined by the coroner, but they did find duct tape on the mouth and drowning was the defenses claim.
@Joel Alexander knowing that every word that has come out of her mouth during this whole situation, it's an absolute lie. Somehow she's gotten away with every lie she's told so that's why my original comment is kinda funny.
@mr Meerkat My guess would be the father or the boyfriend killed the child, and she knew about it. Then she dissociated by partying and ignoring the problem. She knew she wasn't missing, but was very adamant that she left her child in the care of someone she couldn't admit. If you rewatch it and only listen to the words she says, it seems to me she wants her daughter back but knows that she made a mistake leaving her daughter with her father or boyfriend. I would say the boyfriend did it, since the father didn't really come across as the one involved, but the evidence points to the father. Why would they look up chloroform while she was gone and have it show up in the back of her car? Why did she only talk to her mother and not her father after? Why did Casie only shake her head in denial when they said she was the only one involved?
We'll never really know how she died, but that's my guess. Even if she did it, she's been with a good guy and his kid for a while and it doesn't seem like she'd ever commit an act like that again. Her father was the only one in her family who was very outspoken about her never having a kid again.
@air breather I'm new to this case and the video we watched gives you a certain narrative that she is guilty. You seem to have more indepth knowledge of this case than anyone else I've seen in the comments. I thought the same about her burying her head in the sand, partying with her boyfriend Tony. I did wonder afterwards what he thought about it. Where did he think the little girl was in that month? With her parents? It didn't say much about him. Would she just stay with the guy who has killed her daughter? Maybe. She could have blocked it out. Did he keep her close because he knew she might talk? Did the father allow his daughter to say that about him in court because he felt guilty about her getting the death penalty? Or did he really abuse her? Your absolutely right, I don't know if we will ever really know.
@mr Meerkat Sadly we won't, but if you look up the case there's the Wikipedia page with sources from the time and a bunch of other articles that are worth reading. Definitely a lot of unanswered questions and avenues they could've gone to while she was not cooperating, but it's far too late now. The bright side is that her life and her families lives are normal by most standards, beyond the press. I like this channel, but it's purely centered around the power of criminal interrogation tactics and real cases so it's a little biased.
@air breather I will check it on wikipedia. I have been a watching a video for the past couple of hours on the Jonbenet Ramsey case (this one I am aware of) , and one video only gives you so much information and then you watch another and it changes your mind. I might just read wikipedia first then watch in future.
@mr Meerkat If you're really interested in law or criminal investigations, these videos are definitely a great resource. I wouldn't take facts to build a case from here though, since this is more of a study on how investigators build the picture. For the full story, always check the sources Wikipedia uses since they have most of the details there. You can also check out full cases in court details directly, or through some public libraries for older ones. It's a really interesting topic to me too, since it's such a complex practice.
@air breather thanks for the advice. I normally watch a YouTube video on a case, and if it interested me enough I will watch other channels with body language analysis experts. Then try and read source material rather than other people's interpretation of it. Especially if that crime has happened in the city or area I live. YouTube comments on these videos are good to put your ideas forward, but it is the court of public opinion.
The defense's argument is so bizarre that the jurors believed it. Casey was abused growing up so she somehow gets a free pass to kill or cover up the accidental death of her own daughter?
No...... She was abused as a child, which we just have indications of now, so that is why she lied about her child drowning.... The physical evidence was unfortunately not great, because she hid the body long enough.]. Although the, oh by the way I was abused and just now am telling anyone about it and so I lie can't blame me,argument would have turned me off immediately.
@Nerobyrne not always, but using your words in the court of law, no one should ever be found guilty. Circumstantial evidence isnt enough most of the time. Remember "innocent until proven guilty" not vice versa. That means you have to prove she's guilty, not she has to prove she's innocent and if you cant prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt, you more or less dont really have a case
@Virgonation09 yeah it's worded poorly, because you can very rarely prove someone guilty, and even then it's never 100%. What the phrase should be is "innocent until convicted", because that's how it is applied
@Gasgasmotorsports oh they had lots of evidence. More evidence than a lot of murders. That's the problem with a jury, they are just regular people, easy to manipulate.
Of course I understand why it came about, and back then it was a good idea. But much like star chambers, this was an initially good idea which ended up being worse in the long-run.
Not a shred of evidence to support the "i was abused as a child" statement. It was said only once in the opening statement to plant a seed of doubt in jurors mind and to have a leverage as to why she kept a secret about hiding the child's body. Kind of "Casey kept a secret at the age of 8 and also at the age of 28" thing.
@Virgonation09 The legal standard of proof in criminal cases isn't "beyond a shadow of a doubt" though, it's "beyond a reasonable doubt". If the former was the standard, you would almost never be able to find a defendant guilty of murder, unless they committed the crime right in front of the watching jury. Circumstantial evidence is often enough, and many cases are decided on mostly or all circumstantial evidence. The type of evidence is not as important as the quality or quantity of it.
You can have a situation in which an innocent defendants is wrongly convicted solely on the basis of direct evidence — for example, a coerced confession or a mistaken identification by a witness — and you can also have compelling evidence that is entirely circumstantial, like finding the defendant's fingerprints and DNA at the scene of a crime.
@Nerobyrne thats not true, some of the jurors have even been interviewed since. They all believed Casey had some part in Caylee's death, but the prosecution failed to demonstrate that it was 1st Degree Murder, and the guilty verdict meant the death penalty. None of the jurors fealt comfortable with sending her to her death.
@Grimkaizer I think USA should just get rid of the death penalty. Probably she would have been voted guilty from what you say if it had been a life sentence.
"Convince the jury your client is a wounded angel and the victim (or someone else) is the devil and you win" Something like that is what one of the more famous slimy lawyers for the mob said in an interview once. He would chuckle about the cases he pulled off like victories over big challenges when in reality he knowingly helped get mafia murderers and abusers scot free.
@Moreno James the problem isn't that lawyer, it's the fact that this tactic works. Don't blame those who abuse the system, but rather those who refuse to fix it.
That wasn’t the defense’s argument at all. 😂😂😂. “Your honor I would like to enter a motion for a free 1st degree murder pass, on account of child abuse”. WTF?! 😂
@Liam Sanchez goes to Vegas actually that was the argument, but obviously not worded like that. Also it was addressed to the jury, not the judge, which is exactly the problem imo. Juries are dumb.
Lastly, it was "don't kill this person", not "don't punish them." Unfortunately, those were the only two options, which is why the death penalty is really stupid. It makes it much harder to get convictions, because people would much rather put someone in jail literally until they die than be responsible for sentencing someone to death.
Nerobyrne “Convicted”, and “proven guilty” are the exact same thing. Btw, physical, DNA evidence and a confession containing information that only the perpetrator of the crime could know, would be pretty difficult to pull off by an innocent person, unless those details were fed to the suspect during the interrogation. (Making a murderer)
@Nerobyrne from my understanding, it was the fact the prosecution went for first degree, which requires pre meditation. They couldn't even prove she killed her let alone pre mediate it so that was on the prosecution for going for the jugular. They should have tried for 2nd or manslaughter and could have maybe swung the jury.
@DoDaPoomLaka at the end of the video when they read the verdict they said not guilty on charges of child abuse and manslaughter as well. So she was charged will all of them.
@John V I'm saying if that was the initial charge. I think going for the most severe along with the others fucked everything. Unfortunately we will never know.
No, what they were saying is that she was abused as a child and learned at an early age to lie and cover up family secrets. That statement dismisses all the evidence of Casey lying to police about the nanny and shit when she actually (defense theory) drowned in the pool and the family tried to cover it up.
Then they used a smokescreen of saying "You can't get caught up in the emotions of a little girl's death to make a conviction. You have to have proof beyond a reasonable doubt" to keep anyone from digging into the alleged father abuse and drowning.
@DoDaPoomLaka the duct tape should actually be evidence of first degree murder. idk who to blame here because I was not at the trial but with the information presented she's obviously guilty of 1st degree murder.
@Ernesto D. they couldn't prove she duct taped her mouth. None of her dna was foind on it and the defense tried to say her dad did it to help cover it up. Ultimately nothing was proven beyond a reasonable doubt and that is why she wasn't convicted.
@DoDaPoomLaka The existence of duct doesn't prove Casey put it on her but the rest of the evidence does. The google search, the car smell, the diary entry, the lies, the parties, the coldness, etc etc. The jury got manipulated by Baez. After that closing statement, she wouldn't have been convicted of anything regardless of what the charge was. No wonder so many disturbingly stupid news articles start with "Florida man"
There was no proof of her ever being abused. If her father had abused her and she actually loved her daughter, she wouldnt have allowed them contact. She wasn't even properly disciplined as a child because she literally got away with everything; this is probably why she thought she could get away with killing her daughter. We'll never know if it was an accidently death or if she did it on purpose, but there is no doubt that she caused her daughters death.
@MsJakilynJackie, I completely agree with you. She was most definitely not abused and the fact that she tried to say that just proves her delusionary behavior. She is straight evil and I hope that karma takes her down and that she never has another child.
@Emile Griffith I admit, I meant to say reasonable doubt, even so, the defense instilled enough doubt into their minds to make them question whether she really did it or not, therefore, they had to let her off
Nerobyrne The arguments were addressed to the jury because it was a trial by jury. The judge is there to preside over the court proceedings, and if needed, sentence the guilty party. The constitution affords anyone accused of a crime the right to a trial by jury. That’s why the arguments from the defense and prosecution were directed to the jury, and not the judge. In this case it was not the judges job to determine guilt or innocence.
Nerobyrne Also, there were other “options”, as she was found not guilty of any of the crimes she was charged with. The only charge against her that carried the death penalty was 1st degree murder. (Not being a jerk, just factual information)
Casey Anthony , for me, is RIGHT UP THERE WITH JODI ARIAS, DIANE DOWNS, SUSAN SMITH, DARLIE ROUTIER. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS CASE IS MORE HORRIFIC, CASEY ANTHONY WAS NEVER CONVICTED FOR CAYLEE'S DEATH. 🤨😣😪
@Anaphylactic Pete Yes! Absolutely Right! I also think of that case in Florida, the baby taken from crib. I forgot their name. It is REALLY eerie to me how many similarities these sociopaths have, and the family dynamics they grow up in. 😣
@LG She is still guilty. An her day will come when she will come up missing or dead...cuz she drugged her daughter many many times before. This time she gave too much an killed her ! She was sick of the kid an was tired of her parents love for her child over her. She loved the attention. But the guy she wanted didn't want her . So mean while lil Caylee is drugged in the trunk!!
Julie A. - I was raised to not make fun of things like teeth or weight or pimples or anything like that. You know, things people can’t control? When I see her face, hear her voice, I feel like I’ve never felt towards a person before. I never thought I could resent someone so much. Especially someone that has no effect on my life whatsoever. As much as I hate to admit it, even to myself, I’m glad she has slightly crossed eyes and giant teeth. I just can’t stand her. She deserves nothing pleasant.
Julie A. - she harbors a personality that which could poison people around her and have a negative impact on humanity...I believe that. That’s why I can’t stand it when anyone calls her intelligent, attractive, hot or creative.
@The After-Hours you sound like a VERY compassionate and Empathetic person. I too feel exactly how you feel. I try NOT to have this anger and hate for these killers. When i followed the jodi arias case, it bothered me so much when people, mainly guys, would assume bc she looked pretty to them on the outside , somehow she couldn't have done such a horrific crime. I feel so gutted thinking that if Caylee was still alive today, she would turn 15 yrs old Aug 9th. 😪
someone needs to do something about this. I have a feeling she slept with people and that's how she got her verdict. she ended up dating one of her defense investigators. sex is a powerful thing and there is no denying casey was attractive. so many times do i end up hating people and their basic low-brow needs, as I sit here alone.
@The After-Hours totally agree, the word Toxic, Dangerous, and Evil is description for her. I was surprised to read she has a serious boyfriend, ( at least she did awhile back). What guy would ever want to be with her , or even consider settling down and having children with her? It takes All Kinds i suppose. 😵
@jay yt claims gaslighting is something everyone with NPD does . specifically says 'all with narcissistic personality disorder.' I don't know how this channel can present itself as anything related to 'psychiatry'
I’m confused with the Defense’s opening statement being “Caylee died by drowning in the family’s swimming pool” to his closing statement being “it can never be proven how Caylee died”.
@Disimagination how does that work when the state could have done the same thing with their stance on what happened? “Caylee was killed by her Casey and buried and you can’t prove this right or wrong.”
@Raems because that's not the law. The state cannot just make things up and say prove us wrong if they could they would literally be able to arrest anyone on the street and just make up what happened and say well you can't prove us wrong... That's why it's reversed and the burden of proof is on them i.e. Innocent until proven guilty
@King King The evidence is she covered everything up and the only logical reason she would do what she did was to cover up her daughter's murder...Largely, the evidence is what we call "circumstantial," but it's still evidence and can be used to find someone guilty
@King King How can you see her case and say it could apply to absolutely everyone that gets arrested. Did you not watched the video? Are you not aware of how she behaved all along, all the evidence (circumstantial or not) against her? There might not be enough evidences to 100% prove her guilty, but she got out as if she had not taken part on that girl’s death.
This is not a case of someone innocent because there are no evidences, but a guilty person with not enough evidences.
@Raems the state needs to prove beyond a reasonable doubt..... the defense just needs to provide a doubt
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@DaviloX07 _ I was addressing only what was said in the specific comment I had responded to and nothing else. She's obviously guilty of either directly killing her child, assisting in the murder & cover up of her child, or extreme negligence & indifference to the death of her child. Either way I'm in no disagreement that she should be behind bars.
I’m confused too, but not because of that. I think i did not understand something. Can you guys help me clarify something: when your daughter drowned in the family pool, you put the duck tape on her mouth and nose before or after the first aid measures ?
@Hocane no but all the situations leads us to believe it's true, just as there's no physical evidence of racism in America in recent times yet it's all we hear about in the news
@crunch9876 They flat out lied. They know that baby didn't die by drowning - her face was covered in duct tape. Also her father vehemently denies the baby was in his care when she supposedly drowned. It has been proven she was entirely in her mothers care far away from their house - in another state in fact. And if it were true that Cailey died from drowning while in her grandfathers care, why wasn't he charged with negligence? Why did Casey lie about a non existent nanny which she couldn't afford to pay for anyway because she had no job?
i don't like him either, but that is an absolute midwit take. the defense's job isn't to prove anything happened, only to prove something didn't happen. so when the defense makes a statement like that, it might as well be a hypothetical, but it doesn't matter since the defense isn't using that to press charges
If she died by drowning she had to have some water in her lungs, right? It gotta came out in the autopsy she has found after 5 months of her death by then would the water in her lungs be gone?
@Hocane There is, why did she put tape on her mouth and nose if her daughter was already dead? That even makes less sense if she was drowned in a pool.
@beniolenio doesn't excuse lying. The lawyer is lying. That action is the same no matter who commits it. I didn't say all lawyers are bad. Ones that knowingly lie are liars. Judge that yourself.
@Hocane And what about the baby she killed? The baby was not her property to do whatever she pleases to, the baby was part of society, system. So we are responsible for bringing her to justice. And it is also a matter of principle, we can't let people go unpunished for what they did because they can't it again.
@Hocane You have freedom of speech, the current government system does not compromise your beliefs, you can try to rehabilitate and talk to criminals as much as you want. You can have Christian beliefs and still believe in justice.
@Alexandar That's interesting because the countries with the softest penalty system and with greater focus on rehabilitation rather than punishment are the countries with the lowest crime rate. Countries with the harshest penalty system generally have the highest crime rate.
@Hocane Wait, I'm starting to get the idea that you think that countries with a low crime rate have that crime low because their jails rehabilitated the whole population? Did you know that you are going to jail after you did the crime and not before?
Because he is a great lawyer and he knows how to deal with a jury. He’s not the only one my spouse is exactly like that and I’ve seen him when very difficult murder cases. You’re innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. She’ll never betray it again because of double Jeopardy.
if the evidence doesn't directly link someone you can say "SHE DID IT" all you want but theres no physical proof. Innocent people have been put to death off of emotion verdicts and NO PROOF. You guys really want a system where anyone can shoot someone in the face then cry and point to someone and say they did it and everyone automatically believe the accuser??? You know how many innocent people would be convicted? You know how many trials there have been where people believe someone solely because they can relate with ethnics/gender or beliefs?
@AnAccountOnYoutube what did I say to make you think that I believe him? Lawyers must do their job. And if their client tells them something is true, regardless of their personal beliefs, they must take that at face value. You don't seem to understand how criminal defense works.
Thanks for watching everyone, please share your thoughts. And if you want some other takes on this case, check out TRUE CRIME Loser - https://www.youtube.com/c/TRUECRIMELoser and Stephanie Harlowe - https://www.youtube.com/c/StephanieHarlowe
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Can U do one on Arron Hernandez the nfl guy
340 likesI love stephanie harlowe
170 likesOne of the best channels on YouTube. Keep em coming
246 likesThank you for your hard work. You could seriously make this into a TV show! Your production, script and narration is amazing. Have a good one, Jim!
281 likesJCS - Criminal Psychology two of my favorite channels right here :)
92 likesJim you're yoda ❤️
38 likesShmeeda is the BEST! Thanks JCS! Live when you drop new videos! Makes my whole week!❤️🙏🏼🔥💯💥🌹🌈
36 likesThey both have amazing takes, Stephanie Harlow does a massive deep dive.
52 likesHey JimCantSwim, can you do the Jodi Arias case?
67 likesIf you have a Patreon and take requests, I’m willing to pay for your content. I really enjoy the in-depth analysis you do, the quality of the video style and the uniqueness of your channel.
Please get back to me before you get too famous lol :).
3 of my favorite YT channels! You're the only reason I have a Patreon, for the content and to help pay for swimming lessons ❤️
21 likesFinally early for one of your vids! ❤️
4 likesLove your videos ;) I also watch TRUECRIMEloser. I will check out StephanieHarlowe heh Keep up the great work! Now you just need some merch heh ^ ^
6 likesJim, you should consider doing a cold case! Such as Jonbenét Ramsay :) I think it would be really interesting to see how you pull it off.
29 likesGreat video,man..you do good work,thank you✌😄
4 likes@if ignorance is Bliss that explains my misery
7 likesJust so you know, and I'm not being an ass by correcting you, and maybe you didn't mean to, but the correct spelling is "you're" not your.
"You're" is "you are" ..and that's what you meant to use.
@babyblue yes!
3 likesExcellent that you gave them a shoutout. They are two of my favs too 🥰
8 likesZach Classic 👌
0 likesAlways take time to watch a JCS video.
5 likesTundrazZ Please take a seat baby lawyer. This could get all kinds ridiculous for you trying to defend that waste of flesh.
36 likes@N H He has two videos up on his patreon about Jodi Arias!
7 likesRusty MacNicol I thought I was well informed, but I learn all kinds of details from her. She certainly does her research
2 likesWhy? Why not just leave the kid with the loving grandparents and leave?? I wish I knew her reason. I think it was stay in the good graces of mommy and... especially daddy. So she could continue using them. She’s a horrible human being.
25 likesUpNorth ditto!
1 likeRusty MacNicol I need to check her out, never heard of her before!💪🏻👏🏻
1 likeGreat documentary. She needs to still be in the spotlight, so the world knows what kind of heartless evil person this woman is.
20 likesHer signs of emotions were a put on
5 likesGreat to see you back , keep up the fantastic work😉✌
2 likes@UpNorth Why Styvan why!
10 likes@Andrew B we are not here for any reason
9 likesyesss love Stephanie
3 likes@Wesley alan Thank you! I'm grateful for the correction...you're not an ass in my book buddy! If only you could read my dissertation before I have to submit on Tuesday 😂 I'd appreciate your correction! The university only accept me for my mind and fortunately not my grammar 😂. It has improved though! X
17 likes@if ignorance is Bliss that explains my misery hey, at least you are mature! Usually people get really angry when corrected.
9 likesOnce, someone corrected me and I'm glad they did! Now I dont look like a dummy, lol! Thanks for not getting angry, and being a mature person, unlike some of these guys you run into in the comments section, lol! You have a great day and good luck with everything in life!✌
Jim Can't Swim... neither could Caylee, apparently.
7 likesSo well done. I remember watching the case on live TV.
6 likesDid you do oj Simpson yet?
2 likesPlease follow up with a Part II.
5 likes@TundrazZ R
14 likesNope, it only proves how much our beautiful system is broken. To its core.
YAY you're back!!
2 likesWe’re not here for any reason
5 likesI watched that trial and was shocked she was found innocent and got away with this.
16 likesMmhmmm. Yeah!
1 likeI really appreciate the time and effort that goes into making these films. One every so often, never dropping in quality and covering some really interesting cases. Perfect.
9 likesEdit. Spelt perfect wrong. Ironic.
She just cant stop lying
15 likesYeah tcl
1 likeWhat's up with your Patreon? When will new content be added?
1 likeN H he did do Jodi on Patreon
1 likeI always love your videos. I remember this case gave me goosebumps. 💔😢😱Thank you so much ❤️
4 likes@Molly Cote hey, fellow member of SchmeedaFam! 😀👋TCL did well with this, too.
2 likes@Wesley alan Thank you and I'm glad I made this a positive for us both 💛👍 take care x
2 likes@Hitogokochi it is so depressing. This is the first year that I stopped watching it. I agree with you!
0 likes@Zach but, did he have to check any of his pictures?
1 like@if ignorance is Bliss that explains my misery right on! Same to you!✌
2 likesIn a way she was a product of her parents softness and keep believing her..
9 likes@maria cheung I'm 5,000% thure that TCL has a new T-shirt that has that on the front! I'll check my pictures.
5 likesJimCantSwim, True Crime Loser and That Chapter - my holy trinity of true crime ^_^
6 likesPure evil, Sadly i know multiple people that have the same personality as her. Kind of Scared now tbh
4 likes@Erkin Power just dont have a kid with them then
4 likesNo matter how hot they are
That defense lawyer gave me the same "something ain't right with this person"-feeling as Casey did.
7 likes32:26. The grest bandparents .lol
1 like@Gabriela Karl Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD), which is sociopathy and psychopathy, is not a mental illness. It is a personality disorder. Those with APD know right from wrong and are competent to stand trial. They believe that they are above the law and are more intelligent than everyone else. They have no empathy and don't have normal emotions: they fake them if they must to not give themselves away.
12 likesthat child didn't suffocate, she killed her, the journal and search history and that lying is a clear indicator. if she had just drowned she'd have burst out in tears in the end but she didn't, that woman NEVER cared for that child ever, everything was always about her her entire life and she couldn't handle that the child took that away from her
12 likesWhat happened to your Jussie Smollett video?
2 likesThe lady she framed was real but she tried sue her.
2 likes@johnmann just fyi, there is a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez in or around Orlando. She's a single mother of 6 children. She was fired from her job and had her reputation destroyed by Caysee Anthony when her name was announced by the media as the "nanny" who'd been babysitting Caylee. She sued Caycee, but I don't know if she ever got any money. Juliette Lewis is a Hollywood actress.
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0 likes@ifirith please check out That Chapter. That's an excellent true crime channel by a guy named Mike and is from Ireland. He does stories from around the world; mostly, USA, UK, Canada and Ireland.
7 likesDid her dad really abuse her? And he was sitting right there. Maybe he was willing to take that to get his little girl off the hook
8 likesif ignorance is Bliss that explains my misery yeah he’s pretty good
0 likesThankyou for the taking time to upload these. Me and my gf really enjoy your vids because your vids are really well put together.
3 likesLove this channel and these videos! Please please please do more!
3 likesyou have something wrong here. "What became of Zenaida ‘Zanny the Nanny’ Gonzalez, who Casey claimed was caring for Caylee when she went missing?
3 likesGonzalez was interviewed by police, but no charges were ever filed against her in the case. She sued Casey for defamation in 2013, but that case was tossed out of court in 2015 after a federal judge said Casey’s statements did not legally qualify as malicious." while the nanny part may have been a fabrication, she does indeed exist.
I am sorry you guys had to shut down your Patreon. I will give it another month, because the episodes you bring are worth it (at a minimum) thank you
3 likes2manybooks 2littletime love that we have the same taste! Love my true crime families!!❤️🙏🏼‼️💯🔥
2 likesThank you so much for this video! I had never heard of "manufactured personality" before ~ now I totally get it. This woman is a monster.
9 likes@Blu DeLo Stephanie Harlowe is the queen of true crime. Absolutely love her videos.
3 likesLurve Stephanie Harlowe 🥰
4 likes@TundrazZ R Your argument doesn't hold any water. The American Justice system is flawed just like anything controled and operated by human beings. It is not infallable and has a history of making many mistakes. Just look at the many innocent people who were found guilty, only to be exonerated years later. Her lawyer did a better job defending her with straight up lies and falsehoods than the prosecution did in presenting the facts. That doesn't necessarily mean she didn't murder her daughter. She did. And the vast majority of the world knows it.
14 likesI've been watching True Crime Loser ever since you shouted him out in the Stephanie Lazarus video so thank you for introducing him
3 likesHuge fan of your channel, you do phenomenal work.
2 likesThank you for sharing
@Alexander Carder he strenuously denied such abuse had ever occurred. Her dad has cut all ties with her. They have no relationship at all, but the last I've heard is that her mother still talks to her. The Anthonys' house was in foreclosure and there were rumors of a divorce and bankruptcy. Her brother got married. Idk if the rumors were true.
5 likesStephanie Harlowe is truly amazing!
4 likes@jUppers the medical examiner determined that Caylee was a victim of homicide. The duct tape over her nose and mouth could have been the murder weapon if it caused her suffocation and subsequent death.
5 likesIf I never hear her name again I would be so happy....
4 likesBatsu Ohno Zenaida it’s just another person she is not Zani the nanny she just happens to have her name. There was no nanny... That poor lady lost her job over lies and that’s why she sued....plus all the idiots that believe this nutcase were harassing her. She had zero to do with this case and didn’t know the family at all. This lady does exist.... but Zani the nanny does not...Caylee did not have a Nanny. I believe this woman had to move.
10 likesJust subbed to both😊
2 likesPlease do a colab with Stephanie Harlowe you tu guys are my favorite crime channels 💕
1 likeAdrian Dacruz Bipolar and Borderline Personality Disorder I believe is documented.
0 likes@TundrazZ R he's not giving her a retrial.. As though this will affect the state of her legally-given freedom..He has the right to express his own interpretation of any case, open or closed, and any person, innocent or otherwise
5 likesAngie T I hope you have been able to go through TCL other videos, we are called the Schmeeda Family due to stephanies interrogation! I LOVE his channel!!❤️🙏🏼💯‼️
2 likesI really appreciate this type of video! Excellent information. The analysis is fascinating!
4 likes@bradleigh pearceDude has like 12 videos and 750k subscriptions...
3 likesDude is a Legend - Simon Whistler 2019
You are the best damn Creator fo sho.
0 likes@TundrazZ R Um... What does kayfabing mean? Is it anything like fabricating?
1 likeMy top 3! JCS, TCL & Stephanie Harlowe!
2 likesWhat kind of human kills a baby in the WOMB i wonder; we're making monsters prolific in these days.
3 likes@N H they already did Arias.
0 likesYour videos are beyond true crime television. Legitimately cinematic!
0 likes@2manybooks 2littletime you are correct, last time I checked it was a million years ago.
1 like@N H Jimswim did have a patreon, but no longer updates it as of this month. He's open about that and it's now archival stuff. For $1 you can access probably about 3yrs worth of this kind of presentation...and trust me, he doesn't need the money ;)
3 likesthe psychology break downs you give are amazing. Love this channel
2 likesYour channel gives me butterflies. I love it!
0 likes@Molly Cote absolutely! I love them all, too. I lol when I recognize names of people who subscribe to TCL (go, SchmeedaFam!), on the other channels I watch. We ARE family❣💖💯👋😊
1 like@maria cheung 😆
0 likesI have so much to say about this particular case don’t know where to start - especially as a mother - she’s guilty. Period
3 likesI can’t fathom that type of psychopathy, it pure evil in my opinion and some day she’ll have to account before her Maker. Amen.
4 likesIt was well worth the wait bro, the quality of the video was top notch as always.
0 likesI just realized if you learned how to swim you can still keep the acronym JCS
2 likesWhat happened to Chris Watts Part 4?
0 likesThank you, keep
1 likeIt up, amazing work. I never paid attention to Casey Anthony’s story, and it’s incredible how insane it all is.
hey just curious why'd you change the thumbnail?
0 likesJCS - Criminal Psychology... This cases was heartbreaking for like every person that kept up with the news or tabloids. I am glad the mother wasn’t the murderer, even if she wasn’t the picture of the average mother. The media gave updates on the mother Casey. I think plenty are baffled about this case. I pray the murderer of this child, Caylee Anthony, is found and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. May Little Caylee Rest In Peace ❤️💕
0 likesI love the content, but sometimes I so frustrated and angry at how despicable people can be. This one only made it worse given that the killer got away with it. I love your content Jim. Keep it up. But I would request looking at cases where the accused are actually innocent. And not like in this case, where they’re clearly not but get away with it, but are actually innocent and are drilled anyway, and how a normal non-guilty person reacts to being accused, just as a kind of frame of reference.
2 likesGreat job! Very interesting! Have you thought about doing a deep dive about Ross Ulbricht from the Silk Road ?
0 likesI hate u found this channel because I NEED MORE NOW
0 likes@TundrazZ R nah it's not a perfect system. I'm a fucking patriot. You think o.j. was innocent? Give me a break.
2 likesI really enjoy your content! Keep em comin!
0 likesHow can we make you submit bids more often??? Patreon?
0 likes@jamie Allen1977 What the hell does that have to do with this thread?
0 likesThe ONLY subscribed channel i have NOTIFICATIONS ON .. keep up the good work sir , im a criminologist and a law enforcer here in the Philippines by the way.
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0 likesThanks for doing these bro. No other channel gets me exited like this one! Take care
0 likesTest..once again.. i think my comments were not posted? 😮
0 likesYour videos are second to none!! You should have your ownTV show! Thanks for your work and educating us!!
1 like@Wallart pops well; she killed her kid and was set free by people who know it's fine to kill babies. I don't see why she was even arrested.
1 like@Wallart pops or "Most baby murderers in America are APPLAUDED"
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Thank you for everything, and I am also sorry for everything going on. Wishing you guys all the happiness in the world. Keep up the amazing work, I will never unpledge! Your update yesterday made me increase my pledge.
0 likesMuch love, from Newfoundland and Labrador
TundrazZ R Casey, is that you 🙄
0 likesThese senior detectives had her figured out from jump street
2 likesRemembering this case is like an old wound that never healed. One of those cases that more work needs to be done on. So tragic that the murderer is enjoying her life with as much anonymity as she can afford herself...
1 likeYou know, it's a reasonable doubt not just a doubt
0 likesPlease do the Madeline McCann case!
1 like@TundrazZ R and this same "American Justice System" is so pristine, that its never been wrong?
1 likeEver heard of 1000s of wrongful convictions? Then there can be 100s of wrongful acquittals as well.
Hey JCS can we have a follow up video to this? Did any evidence come out after the verdict? How on earth is she functioning in society after the public saw this? I wonder if her Dad still calls her sweetheart after her defence was based on the allegation of him being a child molestor...
2 likes@rejecter 01 I can dm you some software to overcome this issue. Depending on your device it might work
0 likesLove your videos JCS! Was happy to wake up and see you posted a nice long one for us. 👌🏼
0 likesThe best channel on YT. How do we keep paying you $1/Mo.
0 likesThe JCS team earned it!!!
Thanks for the new direction, going to check out Stephanie, for sure. Good to see a woman in this true crime world.
0 likesWhat’s criminal on top of the murder is she beat it and also it took years to go to trial.......
0 likes@bradleigh pearce He already did, subscribe to his patreon and you'll find it
2 likesThank you for turning me on to True crime loser. Scott is hilarious and I really enjoy watching him. I'll check out Stephanie.
0 likes@Tyler Harris yeah yeah yeah...I was very sure I'd be called that by someone, lol
0 likes@N H They covered the Jodi Arias case in multiple episodes :) Its on their Patreon! Check it out!
0 likesDid you change the scary thumbnail?
0 likesThese videos are effin amazing. Please release much more.
0 likesI have one question do you send your videos to the police?
0 likesNonchalantly “my daughter has been missing for 31 days” ?!?!?!?!??!!! What in the world
1 like@kangarouge a dollar us is how much sterling? Do I have to do an exchange money 'thing' please, or can I just say will 2 £ cover it because I think that is well worth it or am I far below the amount required? So sorry to be so stupid. I will research but was looking for a quick answer.
1 likeIts Sunday afternoon lol, I've been to church, done family lunch and walked the dog.
I'm being lazy right now.
2manybooks 2littletime 💯💪🏻🔥🙏🏼❤️‼️🌹⭐️🌟🌟🌈🥰I love my people!!
1 like@Wesley alan - "and that's what you meant to use" It is "you're" meant to use LOL
0 likesMolly Cote but Why Molly, Why!?
1 likeN H you’ve missed the boat there, Patreon is a bit of a sore subject, it died a bit of death in its original form yesterday.
0 likesTundrazZ R you will be sadly missed.
0 likesmaria cheung yes we are, check your pictures, it wasn’t a million years ago. Geez, some people.
0 likes@if ignorance is Bliss that explains my misery - Hope he isn't upset about my correction above lol
0 likes@Trish wait what?lol😄
0 likes@UpNorth same...😎
0 likes@Hitogokochi that's a very interesting and unique perspective on Jeff Bezos. I'm wondering if he'd ever thought about changing the entire format of the WP in the manner that you have. It's been many years since I've last read USA Today, but they were doing the kind of stories that you are talking about. Idk if that newspaper is still in business. If it is, it's possible that Bezos had thought along those lines, but felt that USA Today already fulfilled that niche. All I can say is that he is the richest man in the world and is doing many things right!
0 likesDawnguard styyyyven the hair was there!!
0 likes@Wesley alan - You corrected the person's use of "you're" You said: "Just so you know, and I'm not being an ass by correcting you, and maybe you didn't mean to, but the correct spelling is "you're" not your. "
1 like"You're" is "you are" ..and that's what you meant to use."
Ok, look at your last 7 words, you said "you meant to use" and I am saying it should be "you're" ........and that's what you're meant to use.
@jamie Allen1977 What is your obsession with abortion???? Do you just look for any opportunity to bring up the subject regardless of how inappropriate it might be? Seriously, what is your deal???
2 likesOne of the best YouTube channels! Loved this video!
0 likesLove the deep dive on this. As always this is really well put together. Cheers!
0 likesHow did they explain the duct tape around her mouth ?
3 likes@Trish alrighty then✌
0 likesGabriela Karl It’s confusing. Or she is so good at lying that the doctors. Which is a psychopath and she has next level narcissistic personality.
0 likes@Wallart pops what do you mean? This lady killed her kid like millions of other women; what's the big deal here?
0 likes@Wallart pops and for the record; the JURY agrees with me. Not a single fuck was given.
0 likes@the dude who bangs Shamounians Wife
1 likeYeah, I really wish someone would! And ACTUALLY make some durn sense out of it! Haha,thanks!
@Wesley alan - You're welcome.
0 likes@bradleigh pearce its on Netflix
0 likesShooter
0 likes@Alexander Carder It kills me to think that she possibly lied about something so horrific . To throw your father under a bus, this man who stood by you, supported you and cared for you without prejudice through the most harrowing time for his family, is heartless. The damage to his moral standing, reputation and relationships would be undeniably devastating. Having said that, if she was telling the truth, personally I sympathize with her for that. However, it does not, in my opinion, excuse ending the life of an innocent child.
1 likeWhat were they watching on TV?
0 likesCasey Anthony has now revealed that she is working on a movie entitled As I Was Told about her “turmoil” at being accused of murdering her daughter, and her failure to report her daughter’s disappearance. She says the movie will be released near the end of this year.
2 likes@Chrispy Taco and on wrote a book.. these two shouldn't be free
1 like@Corey Mullins I read Casey and her defense attorney are in a on and off relationship lol
2 likes@Chrispy Taco gross
2 likes@Hello Humans And Beings agreed
2 likesplease do a analysis of the brooke skylar richardson case. thanks
0 likesThose are some shocking statistics. Thank you for pointing then out. I think it's time for me to srart looking into how I can volunteer in some form to help children more.
2 likesSome would say” why didn’t she shut up ? She’s overconfident so much that she was untouchable. They believe in their own fairy tales.
2 likes@Tia W. Exactly
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0 likes@N H no
0 likesBeen waiting for this.
1 likeI don't know how the jury lives with themselves.
2 likes@TundrazZ R hey guys I found Casey in the comments!
1 like@babyblue and the voice!
0 likesYou should cover the Moncton cop killer Justin Bourque.
0 likesI really like your channel, I just discovered it! By the way I feel Casey Anthony should be in prison for killing her daughter.
4 likesWhy are there no subtitles or words on the screen to follow after 26:31? Some people are hard of hearing or totally deaf. Please consider that. I couldn't follow along to good with the rest of the video.
1 likeYou are amazing bro.
1 likeJCS you make the best videos , please don't stop making them and I hope you go further with them, like a TV series or something. You clearly put in so much love and hardwork and it shows, and we get to watch them for free on YouTube! It's much appreciated, thanks , J x
1 like@Primate Productions your right. I misheard it he first time. I thought she said "she's lucky to have had you"
0 likesThank you for taking the time for this one!!!
2 likesbradleigh pearce they did a whole 6 hours series on Netflix. Do you really want a copy paste?
0 likes@Vampire Slayer - You are right, I had to do some reading on her, I can't get over she isn't locked up in a nut house at best, I wonder if the jury feels guilty, apparently it is claimed they didn't fully understand their duty!
1 likeIt's my belief that we train our instinct as we grow. We define what 'good' is by our brain chemicals responding to emotions brought up by our instinctual desires to be selfish (ensure our own survival), lazy (don't waste effort), or anxious (fear what could harm you). We feel good when our thinking results in a positive effect and we get another release of brain chemicals. We subconsciously (sometimes consciously) remember them and categorize them via our emotions. We can retrain emotions associated with certain memories, but we can't remove the memory of the events that trained the instinctual responses or thinking in the first-place.
0 likesThe moment we feel we are needing to 'survive,' we weaponize that instinct for our survival, no matter how it was trained. When surviving, there is no time to think.
bradleigh pearce what did Arron do ?
0 likesJCS - Criminal Psychology I totally believe this woman murdered her child, she has zero remorse for doing so. BUT here is another side to this, another angle. What if it is true her father did rape her. Maybe that’s why they are enablers. They know the truth and prefer her to be this lying cheating woman rather than a truth teller.
1 likeNow imagine if the fear of the rape reflects on to her child too. She was afraid that as soon as her child reaches the same age she had when she first was raped that the same would happen to her. What if she killed her child because she didn’t want her child raped by her family members? What if she did this because she believed that as a mother she was doing the right thing? What if this facade she puts on is a byproduct of her life of trauma and abuse?
No normal person can behave the way she did. Even if when someone does a murder, they try to cover it up, show empathy. what if she has been wounded so badly that it has made her like this.
The first thing her father said on the phone to her while his visit was ‘hello gorgeous’ doesn’t that seem strange for a father to say to his daughter who is in jail for the possible murder and disappearance of your grand child?? She too is gushing and acts all cute. Doesnt this dynamics seem strange?
I’m all for condemning this woman and her actions. I’m disgusted by the whole trail and verdict. But I also feel that the psychology and study of this woman is incorrect and should be looked at from this theory too. What if she feels no remorse because in her head she was saving her child???
With respect for the young, innocent victim, Caylee Anthony, 3 y/o.
1 likeThis case took a very strange turn. Did the defense attorney manage to shed light on the inherent corruption of the prosecutors tactics by employing similarly corrupt tactics in order to extract a "not guilty" plea from the jurors by implying their complicity with the corruption of an inherently corrupt system itself? Is proof the burden, or is the real burden guilt? And is complicity with the guilt cause to share the entire burden of guilt? Either way,
sexual abuse, especially when children are involved for whatever reason (including but not limited to/for the purposes of acquisition of patronage, blackmail, or bribery), should not ever be allowed, permitted, protected, or pardoned under any case, circumstance, or code.
Beautiful work as always. Thank you for giving a voice to young Caley Anthony. This video is the closest thing we can ever have to justice being served. Please share this video as much as you can.
1 like@N H he does have a patreon and it's only a dollar a month to watch all the shit he cant put on here.
0 likes@TundrazZ R Yes your system is so good, that's why so many innocent people are sitting in prison for years and why this nut job was set free.
3 likes@bradleigh pearce agree. No one else tells stories about so many different contents like Stephanie Harlow does
0 likesI appreciate the perfect balance of smart and heart that you bring to these cases.
1 likeAwesome job on the video! Easy watch and well put together!
1 likeOmg shouting out Stephanie Harlowe ❤️
0 likesI’m not an expert on media, just a minor in Communications and most of those credits were earned in TV Production classes, but I feel that the media is a bit vilified in the introduction. As a religious person, I feel that modern psychology has done aerial flips to avoid talking about evil, which is the elephant in the room here. The concept of sociopathy seems like one of those aerial flips to avoid labeling immortality and evil.
2 likeshi, please just one audio request, I have the videos volume on 10 for the parts where you dont talk and 3 where you are talking . Maybe its just my speakers but you are easily twice as loud as the other content other then that nothing else to add and great work ¬!
0 likesJust found this channel and already I am hooked. Fantastic breakdown of psychology here. Would love to see your take on the Shayna Hubers and Jodi Arias interrogations or classics like the Betty Broderick or Susan Smith cases.
0 likesI love this youtube channel
1 likeGood work as always!!!!!!!!
1 likeLove you Casey🤗
0 likesHi Jesus was a Palestinian Socialist, That Casey Anthony went through the trial but came up on all charges as not guilty
0 likesPerhaps others said that before, but JULIETTE LEWIS is the female lead in FROM DUSK TIL DAWN....
1 likeLove TCL
0 likesLucas Weatherby - And Caylee was found to be a molested child by a man. Also, the child was found wrapped in bedsheets from her bedroom in the grandparents home. The outcome for Casey Anthony was found Not Guilty.
0 likes@Wesley alan, that’s all you got?! Okay, Folks we have a bonafide SPELL checker. I think we need one for every video. Go out and multiply Spell Checker’s.😂
0 likesYou do great work but it would be great to do it on the perpetrators of the insane debacle we face now
1 likeAnd remember your not just addressing this U.S. Europe has more or less, never heard of this case, for that reason, in future, context would be helpful. Thank you
1 likeThanks for posting this! Halfway through, and I am stunned by.this woman. Beyond cold and.uncaring. Unreal. Good cops on this case. Kudos, gentlemen!✌😸
0 likesBut your channel is so much better than his sorry
0 likesJuliette Lewis exists, and is a Hollywood actress Who had been employed by major studios at the time I believe I heard that she was employed by Universal sometime during Casey’s life, but was most unlikely to have known her in any way.
1 likeI hope you do an AMA someday. Are you one guy? A team of people working on these? Are you an editor as well as a cinematographer and also a forensic psychologist? I have so many questions.
1 likeTundrazZ R the American justice system is a joke. It allows murderers to walk free. It allows money to control it. It has jailed and executed innocent men and women. This isn’t a relitigation by any stretch of the imagination.
2 likesCan you do Brett kavanaugh?
1 like@JCS - Criminal Psychology I have questions though. I thought sociopaths are usually easy to get angry and have explosive anger while it's the psychopaths that are the calm ones, is that wrong? I'm still kinda new to these, so I wanna know.
1 likeGreat work and keep up the hard work
1 likeYour content is ultra deep and insightful. Thank you!
1 like@Ervin Chan there are two Americas never forget that
0 likesDude !! Even your recommendations are great..
0 likes@TundrazZ R Good riddance. The US justice system is generally a disgrace. Some decency is not enough
0 likes@Biz Nasty Not easy in psycholand USA. Best wishes
0 likesI thought murder in the US was legal or a misdemeanor in the end. You just have to be a consistantly liar...not a good one. You also have a public with no critical thinking. Lawyers lie also. Pathetic.
0 likes@Wallart pops Americans are famous for their simple mindedness. They believe anything they are told.
0 likesCan you do one on Jodie arias?
0 likesSchmeeda
0 likesAfter watching her with her parents visit, I can clearly see they have been in denial about her and probably enabled her.
1 likeN H he did one on Jodie Arias (her interrogation videos anyway). It’s is on his Patron.
1 likeLove your shit man
1 likeI live in Florida 👁
2 likesI noticed you do a lot of cases In Florida. Not sure if this is the type of material you cover, but the Morgan Smith case had the weird sort of vibe many of your videos cover. I knew her personally from Milford CT where she was originally from. She had a horrid life and was mentally ill from a young age. She pled not guilty by insanity to shooting another woman in the head with a shotgun in, I believe, mayport Florida, I may be wrong. Knowing her personally made me wonder how they found her sane. Maybe something in the interrogation process? Just a suggestion/request from a new fan.
0 likesPoor dirt farmer I did too at one point
1 likeThe introduction is BS. You have a better chance of being struck by lightning than having your child kidnapped or sex trafficked. THAT is why it makes the news. Almost all kids reported missing return home within a day. In the case of teen prostitution most are online and trafficking THEMSELVES! Legalize prostitution and check IDs.
0 likesI would love to see a breakdown of the interview Rob endres gave on unsolved mysteries.
0 likesTCL channel is one of my favorites along with JCS!
1 likeYour channel is BLOWING UP 100k subs in a few days!!! I bet you make over 10k this month easy
1 likeYou got to do the daybell weirdos. If theres some interrogation video of them. There will be but who knows when or if it will be released
0 likesThis was amazing man, just subscribed. I hope you do one on Donald Trump some day, because with your analytical skills I'm sure you know he's a criminal as well as I do, and a fascinating one at that. The way he uses language has somehow managed to get him a seriously devout group of followers and he's clearly been laundering money for the last 30 years after he was a billion in debt. It's absolutely insane to me that nobody has held him accountable his entire life.
2 likesGood video. Pretty solid analysis of her behavior .
1 like@N H He has! I think its on patreon somewhere in the early posts :=)
1 likeBlu DeLo has to work work out tomorrow so we have have to to work with a a few few of our our week around to do it it is so great I have a
0 likesbradleigh pearce has to work with the same person I know for the next day at the end and
0 likesbradleigh pearce has to work with the same
0 likesbradleigh pearce has
1 likebradleigh pearce has to work with the
0 likesbradleigh pearce has to work with
0 likesbradleigh pearce has to work
0 likesbradleigh pearce has to work with
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0 likesUpNorth has always
0 likesUpNorth has always
0 likesOf course - "Black/Hispanic". This is America.
0 likesFailed Parenting: How can you allow your child to speak to you that way.
Can't you say no to your child, can't you be a parent over friend. No? Here is the result. Let's reward your child for lying, failing at school, lying again by throwing a big party to support the lie. Here is your thanks Dad...You molested me. No consequences throughout her life. My ex was similar to this woman. My friend treats her daughter the exact same way fortunately her father doesn't. I want to see the Jury. Drowning in a pool...was there water in lungs.
not only did she manage to get away with murder and lie her whole life but she just won a case against the man who found caylees body.
2 likesI love Stephanie!! She is wonderful
1 like@Hawkeye...life's a trip, ain't it?!?!😅
0 likesI know it's easy to mistrued things through text, especially in the comments section.
If I was wrong in any way, I do apologize to anyone, you have a great day, my dude!✌
Just found your channel, completely addicted, great job
0 likesYou always make really good videos; very informative. This particular case was absolutely horrific, but I always enjoying hearing your take on these things. I especially enjoyed your video on Stephanie Lazarus, but the intro that used to be there is there no longer. Is there a particular reason as to why that part has been cut? Would you be willing to add it back?
0 likesI love this channel!
0 likesWhat happened to the interrogation and in-depth analysis of Russell Williams?? That was one of the best videos I've seen on your youtube channel. :((
0 likes@Miss Maddie he did make a video about him, but it's gone :( It was one of his best videos imo.
0 likesTundrazZ R ZERO respect for the so called Amerikkkan “Justice System” is exactly the amount of respect any sane DECENT person should have!When you can buy your freedom there is NO FUNCTIONING JUSTICE SYSTEM TO RESPECT
0 likesSearch on THIS and you will understand WHO Casey Anthony IS and WHAT she was in to:
0 likes"Jay Parker+ITNJ+Trib"
Do your search on YouTube.
@Robin Young I know right, I wonder what JCS would think! :D
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0 likesPLEASE DO AMANDA KNOX INTERROGATION !!
0 likesThis video went viral quickly !
0 likesThanks JCS. Where did you get this from? I often wonder, in particular, how interrogations get posted on YouTube. I know nothing about the law, and I find the interrogations interesting. I just thought there would be privacy laws or something. Appreciate all of your postings.
0 likes862,000 mothers hired assassins to crush the heads of their babies last year, and that has occurred every year since the 1970's. But because non-doctors, medically untrained individuals, who wear black cloaks called judges said there was no life present, none of the killers have been charged with the murders.
0 likesLove your work
0 likesAbsolutely love your work keep it up. I'm addicted to these shows now !
0 likesWow she’s scary
0 likesWhen she accused him of sexual abuse in open court, i hated her.
0 likesBig Jumbo yuck prison food
0 likesI thought I followed this case closely, when it was going on,..I thought that she probably did something to her daughter but the state hadn’t proved it... and that because of that the not guilty verdict was correct... because they didn’t prove beyond a doubt..... but now.. after hearing this.. which I had not before... I hadn’t heard any of this .. dammit I was wrong.. very wrong.. this young woman is a monster..a psychotic woman.. she is a cold manipulative evil mean person
1 likePsychopathy is a mental illness
0 likesSomeone please take on this case again this is just pure insanity.
1 like@TundrazZ R she lied about the details of other people, including mentioning fictious people. That will always be suspicious
0 likesI'm stunned the mental health professionals couldn't properly diagnose her with a personality disorder. She's clearly a pathological liar, if not someone with narcissistic or anti-social personality disorder as well.
1 likeWhich voice over software you use?
0 likesThank you for taking the time and effort to put this amazing video together for all of us 😊 (real thank you, real smiley face emoji)
0 likesShe’s innocent! The system doesn’t lie!!
0 likesThe ending sucked.
1 like@Garrett Lee yeah... the system never lies.... 🤫
0 likes@Big Jumbo agree part of all of us is shaped by our relationships and parents/guardians. But I keep thinking there are people who went through hell or on the flipside had parents like hers and have not killed their baby and deceived everyone so maliciously. It's interesting to me how people with similar lives can go on such different paths
0 likes@Garrett Lee I figured that I was trying to add to it, thought your reply was quite funny 😉
0 likesRachel Matthews are you from Florida?
0 likes@Garrett Lee new jersey
0 likes@2manybooks 2littletime The poor woman should sue her former employer for wrongful termination
1 like@Mary Chambers I agree!
0 likesWhy can’t they rebook her she clearly did it
1 like@N H they have a patreon, and they've done Arias
0 likesThe reader is the best.
0 likesWhere was the laundry bag from? Thanks
0 likesThis is the best crime channel on YouTube. Very well made.
0 likesYour videos are golden, you are really really good at this!
0 likesThis is absolutely absurd her attorney he's insane I almost hate his guts so much but the fact that he can manipulate the journey and give evidence ties there is no proof to be shown is why he's so good at his job
0 likesPlease do one on Jodi arias
0 likesI was looking this up a month ago. What an American psyop and test to cognitive dissonance. So weird I'm drawn to this video after not looking for it after a month.
0 likesWait till the word pedo-ring is attached to this. Poor girl at the hands of Florida woman
When’s the next vid JCS...you got us all waiting
0 likesbradleigh pearce or Jeffrey Dahmer
0 likesMicah Stephens i am on the page and I see no jodi video pal
0 likesThe Amazing Robin Hood where is the patreon
0 likesHi, I read that a lot of your Patreon content isn’t accessible anymore, is that true? I’d like to pledge but don’t want to get screwed over
0 likes@JCS - Criminal Psychology
0 likesThe way Casey Anthony lies so eloquently and effortlessly and remains so calm and stoic makes me think she has a genius level IQ, like many serious killers.
Hey my friend. Your video about the nasty colonel has gone... have you deleted it or just I cant find...?
0 likesKeep the videos coming. The way you break everything down and actually have all your facts correct is what sets you apart !! Love the videos please make more .. how about Drew Peterson
0 likesYy this
0 likesOn the 911 call Casey lies and said she spoke to Caylee for a moment. And garbage smells a lot different from a dead body. Why does she get away with murder?
1 like@jmthill why are u @ me in this, out of 432 comments, most of which were far more aggressive/abrasive than mine? No, we don't "need to lay off him," as internet comment sections are a place to express whatever opinions may be out there. The comment got many opposing responses because many people do not agree with the comment.
0 likesCan you do one on Jonbenet Ramsey case?
0 likes@babyblue agreed
0 likesJCS - Criminal Psychology. There is no question in my mind that Casey was involved in Caylee’s death. While the proof is circumstantial it cannot be denied as Casey’s reaction or reflex was recorded during the trial on TV. I have an example of something that has happened to me that was similar and I’m sure that perhaps some of your viewers may have had a similar experience. Please hear me out, & as it should make some sense. It is a phenomena or reflex that humans have. There is no denying it. I’m not a psychologist but what I’m about to say makes sense. I was traveling down the interstate in Florida on the way to a client which I usually do every 3 to 4 weeks when I had to use the restroom. I pulled off the hwy at the next gas station which was an Exxon station alone on a hill across the interstate. I pulled in, walked into the store and then into the restroom. It had one enclosed toilet and urinal. I was immediately hit with a odor so bad that it nearly knocked my breath away when I walked in the restroom. My first instinct was to run out; however, I had some unfinished business. I knew there was only on service station at this exit. I peeked into the toilet and found it was stopped up with towels and crap. I tried to hold my breath which did no good to suppress the smell while I used the urinal. I was getting the dry heaves from the smell. I got out of there as soon as I could. It smelt bad, really bad but I was out of there and gave it no more thought, Approximately 3-4 weeks later I was traveling to my same client and I noticed that same Exxon station when the same feeling came over me in the car as I was passing it by like a reflex, the smell and the dry heaves started again just by the sight of this same gas station, It was if I was back in that filthy restroom. And each time every 3-4 weeks I came through this spot the feeling came back; however, over time the feeling did lessen. There must be a name for this reflex. I don’t know it, not being a psychologist. Well Casey had the same reflex when the prosecution showed in court the slide of the opened trunk of the vehicle the police thought Caylee was stored in. In court on TV Casey had the dry heaves and had to be led out of the court room at that time. I was surprised nobody in court took notice of the timing of her abrupt illness with the showing of the picture of the trunk. The picture of the trunk unconsciously (like a reflex) reminded her of the horrific smell of her dead daughter in the trunk. The smell was probably taken in by Casey when she moved Caylee’s body. Casey had to have been there for her abrupt illness to show on TV. Her death may have been an accident we may never know but it was covered up by her mother and maybe others for 31 days. It’s sad, very, very sad. She can’t be held accountable due to the double jeopardy clause.
2 likesI( thought this channel had a video on Alek minassians police interrogation????? maybe it was another channel but I could have sworn it was this one. I thought it was called "The psychology of an incel"
0 likesYou should do one on Christopher McNabb. Covington, Georgia, United States. Killed his newborn daughter in a meth rage, then concocted a story that someone broke in and took her. Oh yeah, the baby's mother was the fathers first cousin. A methed up situation!
1 likedam this was awesome dude.
0 likesPunkTunes p
0 likesI got stories for you about American kids being dragged into CRUEL PERVERSE GENOCIDE OF RJEIR FAMILIES DUE TO rampant Corruption in Ecuadorian government and courts.
0 likesI see you have big number of subscribers on your channel with quiet interesting content yet very few videos !
0 likesShe had to be using drugs and hiding it.
0 likesSame here 🤦🏼♀️
0 likesWould you make another video on this case. This was EXCELLENT.
0 likesdo one on megan boswell's case whenever it gets released
0 likesI would be interested in comparing women being interviewed by women vs men. Not saying anything particular about this, but wonder what your thoughts are. It seems like some female suspects try to use coy or cute banter on male interrogators whereas it would be less effective on a female investigator.
2 likesLove both channels! Stephanie Harlowe is awesome and True Crime Loser is hilarious! I didn't know until the other day that he actually does stand-up comedy! In Maryland. I bet he is a riot.
0 likesI don’t understand how people can lie so much and easily. Like where do you make this up? How big of an imagination can you have? I can’t lie to save my life...
1 likeOmg I can't believe they tried to pull that off its so obviously untrue the way she was talking before the court
0 likesMunchausen syndrome by proxy (MSP) -- or Munchausen by proxy -- is a psychological disorder marked by attention-seeking behavior by a caregiver through those who are in their care. MSP is a relatively rare behavioral disorder. It affects a primary caretaker, often the mother. This is to gratify her attention-seeking, she does not care or even talking about her child. notice she uses I a lot
0 likesWould you please make another one telling the result of the jury who was arrested by the judge? Do you think it influenced the other jury to form the final result? My opinions about the possible reasons are: 1. Jury make mistake. Jesus was wrong convicted three times by the jury. Many innocents have been wrongly convicted by the jury and some have been wrongly executed.
0 likes2. It is harmless for her to be in our society.
3. The key point was one of jury was arrested. Other jury re-evaluated the standard to convicted the crime and if the criminal system should be simply punished system, or should be based on the danger to the society, or should let the pure accident move on?
I love these but I wished there was more commentary than scripts, recordings, and evidence of things. Other than that great video!
0 likesThis women killed her child and her mom still called her sweetheart? Are u kidding me? Now i can see why she s a pathological liar
2 likes@timeWaster76 I don’t think so. I think only about her parents there is emotion. Nothing about the baby tho. What’s up with her parents? I’m only half way through tho. Ugggg she even got bail? Omg
1 like@2manybooks 2littletime well u know ur stuff cuz that’s exactly what I see with that evil one. Unreal.
1 like@2manybooks 2littletime omg.. I wanna look into that too! What happened to the lady and if the girl knew her or how she got her name or whatever. Spot on. I totally caught the Juliet actress girl immediately. Probably admired her ugg. What was dumb was the story about the nanny working for the guy that didn’t even have a kid! Now since she’s so brilliant.. that was a ridiculous guy to use. What she didn’t think they would look into him? First time watching her. Of course I heard the horrible story but hearing and watching her is absolutely mind blowing.
2 likes@Sosa Okeef Totally horrific: but she will have to face Almighty God one day to give an account of WHY she murdered her beautiful baby: a precious gift from Him!!!??? 😰😢😭
2 likes@Luke D Blair did you check your pictures??
0 likes@Kimbo Slice Casey Anthony saw a list of applicants for an apartment complex and saw the name Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales on the list. I don't remember the reason why Casey was there in the first place - perhaps applying for an apartment there herself? Casey wasn't only a pathological liar, she had a memory like nobody else. She outplayed everyone! The prosecution had only circumstantial evidence. The jury found her not guilty because the prosecution lacked a solid motive, they said. An actual cause of death also couldn't be determined because of the decomposed flesh. They only had Caylee's skeletal remains. (And the duct tape around the mouth and nose of the skull).
0 likes@Kimbo Slice 😊
0 likesDarlie Routier would be an interesting one.
0 likesCasey had a really upsetting upbringing... please...stop blaming Casey...far from a perfect life....Casey was practically dead way B4 Cayley was born
0 likesCasey was not convicted ...leave her be....not guilty...baby Cayley...RIP 💓
0 likesShe is not at all grieving her daughter's disappearance..She loves the spotlight..look at me..
1 likesociopathic parents create sociopathic parent...and so it goes...
0 likeswhat I'm curious about is the grandparents-were they sickos too?
Was only the one parent of Casey sick and the other just went along with indulging Casey's lies as a child, creating a conscienceless monster?
@T.M. Willt
0 likesAbsolutely bananas
1 likeYes please do the Jodi Arias case!!
0 likesWtf!! She's let go no charges? Not a single charge? What about hiding the body of the child? American Justice system is so flawed! Jury system must be ended!!😑😑
1 likeBruh my sister is Pathological lier. I had to stop talking to her .
1 likeIt's not a jury's job to "hate". They uphold justice. Incredible they failed here completely.
3 likesI still can't believe the jury came to the conclusion they did and she got an acquittal Casey Anthony is as guilty as Sin but she will reap what she sews in the afterlife
1 likeYou know what, I LOVE this channel and the content produced. Easily the best True Crime content on the internet. BUT I almost feel like boycotting this channel because you guys don't upload anywhere near enough. You've got 1.5M subs and 8M views on this video alone, at what point does it become socially irresponsible haha. Jokes lol, but for real. The channel is much loved obviously, it has an AMAZING opportunity to excel and grow 10 fold but you're just not uploading enough and giving the people what they want. I mean, surely the leader of this channel knows how important this opportunity is and how much of a quality platform this is to grow into something important, but yet, videos still only get done once a month. With 1.5M subs, you definitely are making more than enough to do Youtubing as a job. Pick your game up Jim!!! Love your work though haha!
0 likesI love white people, oh if pretty and middle class even a monster we cannot allow this narrative.. if a person of color that's ok we want to keep all believing it's natural for them to commit crimes. If white woman let's over analyze look into the psychology of her mind rather then hold her accountable,, anything to maintain false squeaky clean image of a white woman..jury prepaid pre selected and pre decision go research all the jurors they got paid. All of you are complete fools if you think they didn't have concrete evidence to completely put her away all the major mistakes and no planning this woman did
1 likeWhere is she today
0 likesOmg, yes, thank you!!!
0 likes@babyblue Mr President the sore looser u let America down never hated u but was extremely disappointed in the way u abandoned us during the crisis let alone lost faith in our system betraying the people yet again by false claims of fraud. Our government is not a fraud ,we as Americans follow by your example and you good sir failed to give us a worthy one to follow.... probably not the real one term President but what the hell.
0 likes@bradleigh pearce ccr
0 likesCasey took late term abortion to a whole new level.
0 likes@Sofia Almeida last of the summer wine
0 likes@MemoryofAngels I wish she was my mom :( ........
0 likes@bradleigh pearce n
0 likesLove your channel, another Covid-19 pandemic lockdown discovery ... what a gem‼️✨ 💎✨💖✨
0 likes@bradleigh pearce nbc ko
0 likesHow did her parents not see through the bs?
1 likeDid you mention that the nanny doesn't exist?
0 likesCasey father is also Caylee s father. That is the big ugly secret her lawyer was talking about. The other mysterious crafted father who died in a car accident is another lie. Case closed..
0 likesCan you do Mitchell Blair, the women who tortured an killed then froze her children's body.....i am addicted to your channel. First one i would actually become a patreon for
1 like@babyblue llgllgll rug l
0 likesThe parents should be ashamed. This lady should never been allowed to get away with this. I don't see how any sane person could allow this women to get away with this. Lies from the beginning to end
1 likeWell the father had hes own reasons to be "extra" kind to her...
0 likesShit watching this pissed me off so badly, how in the fuck did this happen
2 likesMhmmm
0 likesLemmino when this hits 500 replies
0 likesI love this channel so much ! 🖤
1 likeA request: Kenneth Fitzhugh. 🤒
I just watched a clip of his interrogation & it's cringy af, he's got acting skills. *Psych 😅🤣
Can you please upload content soon? 😩
She was POSSESSED
0 likesHey
0 likesWill you be coming back anytime soon?
0 likesUnbelievable right
0 likesCheck out the judge 59:50
0 likes1:24
0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
I would love if you could delve into the tragic case of Gabriel Fernandez. You have shown things in this case (Casey Anthony) I've never seen... And I've watched ALOT on this case. I would love to see what you can dig up on poor poor Gabriel. My heart still holds on to that little boy that was failed by so many in charge of keeping him safe.
0 likes@bradleigh pearce you please
0 likes@bradleigh pearce you please don’t have
0 likes@bradleigh pearce you I love the i good thing I o do it so oooo up on it
0 likes@Blu DeLo PPP no ooooo
0 likesThe best criminal investigative videos on YouTube. I hope you can continue to make more, and I hope they are monetized for you. You have done great work!
0 likesIt's interesting that when she was found not guilty, her family did not look relieved or cry or anything. They were stonefaced. Because they know she's guilty.
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I wonder how her parents are doing and how they’ve dealt with it all after the trial...
5575 likesand they just got painted as child molesters and probably get death threats to this day.
6318 likesThey got her a crooked, expensive attorney.
3097 likesI hope her parents never speak to her again.
1949 likesParkourBear I’ve seen something more recent.. a dateline or 20/20 episode maybe.. and then they did a dr oz episode, Her parents haven’t spoken to her since she was released but her dad wrote her a letter that he was ready to reconcile. That was 2019, not sure what came of it. And Casey has supposedly played the role of being “born again”.. and turned Christian. You can google them.. there are actually quite a few interviews in 2018/2019. Her dad has been in a near fatal car accident.. a lot went down but both parents still believe Casey is guilty.
2743 likes@George 'Foreman' Grill ?
186 likesshe threw her dad under the bus so yeah they disowned her
2591 likesYes
8 likesHer lawyer had just accused her father of raping her
1880 likes@Parkour no lie my old hr was a babysitter to her when she was little and knew the parents in Ohio. She said they were so loving and nice. I honestly believe they are broken hearted still with the way she talked about them. Small world . I couldn't believe it
324 likesseeingeyegod nobody believes that story, thankfully.
54 likesAt some point, the family basically decided to help her get out of jail. Maybe I'm just cold, but if my kid was a murderer, I would want them in prison and I would never speak to them again. I'd hand over a stack of evidence too.
1203 likes@Parkour not well. there's a documentary on them and the mom's a fucking mess. the parents hate each other now
452 likes@Parkour They've been missing for 31 days.
117 likesJon Boner Jones bro it means unnecessary 🤦🏻♀️
35 likes@George 'Foreman' Grill Your comment calling someone you have no real knowledge of a dummy/idiot, was rather superfluous.
130 likes@George 'Foreman' Grill However, you pic of the cat is very cool.
46 likes@DinkleDigeroo Yeah, dad's stone-faced reaction surprised me. I would've expected his jaw to drop and his eyes to bug out of his head and impale the skull of the guy sitting in front of him.
407 likesHis acquiescence truly shocked me. Perhaps he did agree to the scheme? I have no idea.
I don't have kids. I imagine if I did I'd do anything for them. But THAT is a pretty steep price to pay.
That's asking a lot.
@A B I feel the same about Baez. The jury's verdict was absurd, but Baez' skill has to be recognized.
303 likesAccording to the parameters of our system, he out-lawyered the enemy. It's a wicked skill-set to possess, but possess it he does. Unfortunately.
I respect his natural proficiency. But I wish he'd become a doctor instead.
@wifisucks When it's a lie it's the worst thing a man can be accused of. And she was a big liar.
152 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion Careful mate, acquiescence is quite a big word and @Jon Boner Jones might have something to say on that lol.
86 likes@Kelly Do you know what the name of the documentary is?
17 likes@M T His statement after the verdict sounded like "ah... well there technically wasn't a false conviction so that's true... I did too good of a job... I really didn't think this was going to work."
52 likes@Lea Doug "Casey Anthony's Parents Speak"
29 likes@Kel B if my kid did what Casey did, I would too. In a heartbeat. It's fucked up what they did. Loving your kid isn't helping them get away with murdering their child.
219 likesdefense lawyers seem to have a heaping amount of charisma...
123 likesprosecutors on the other hand....
@George 'Foreman' Grill 0/10 troll
24 likesKevin w the apple doesnt fall far from the tree with mom i guess...
11 likesThey knew one tear and they were next
6 likes@DinkleDigeroo If he went ballistic, most would say he doth protest too much. its a no win, thats why she threw that bomb
34 likes@Debra Congram Why do you keep calling her a schizo as an insult? No one who has any idea what schizophrenia is would think that Casey Anthony has it. I hope that those who are unfortunate enough to suffer from the debilitating illness that is schizophrenia don't have to read your ignorant comments.
496 likesLaura Athena her dad is livid and believes she is guilty and refuses to interact with her. Mom not so much.
83 likes@Allie Shobe that is true
4 likesA B Nooooo, its not. Its their job to analyze facts and present them to the court in the best interests of their clients. Its a job and you should do your job well. He did his job very well... With that said... She totally killed that kid though.
42 likesIt solidified that she is untouchable and they were right to fear her.
30 likesHer mother came to her rescue at the end. She backtracked on what she said about the trunk smelling like a dead body.
92 likesThe dad was so torn up at one point,he drove out of town to a motel and attempted suicide,but the mom had a horrible feeling and called rescue to check on him so he was saved! They are united forever in tragedy that none of us could imagine! I pray for them!
132 likes@OuroborosWorm maybe they meant psyco! As in selfish kinda crazy!
11 likesA B ... it’s an oxymoron
3 likes@Stacee Payne "Psycho" shouldn't be used as a pejorative either! We should be removing the stigma around mental health, not building it up.
166 likes@Lea Doug He's come down with a horrible case of the superfluo and won't be commenting today 😪
25 likes@OuroborosWorm Alright there PC Police. People can say whatever they want.
44 likes@Janneke Gerritsen your joking right? That was a just a lie to get her off of prison time.
64 likes@DinkleDigeroo that totally blew my mind. a normal dad would cry or scream wtf. and at that point if that was my daughter. rot in prison
17 likesKel B Easy to say when it hasn’t happened to you.
2 likesMcNulty's Sober Companion It’s pretty evident he knew what was going to be said. They planned to go in that direction. Remember the lawyer she had was expensive and suspected to be paid by her parents smh
16 likes@Kelly Do you have a link? Thank you for your comment. My son, Jonathan, was killed 2-10-17 & it's been hard on our marriage. Much different circumstances, I realize; but Casey would be dead to me for making the choices that put everyone where the are now. In the grave and at each other's throats...
36 likesKel B I think that in theory, that would have been justice for Caylee. However, even just looking at my own parents I think it is pretty unlikely you will see parents from a family like that turn on their own child as sad as it is. Especially with a child as manipulative and dominating as Casey seemed to be to them. If I’m completely honest, I’m almost surprised that her parents were confident enough to show the skepticism that they did because I’m sure Casey ruled that household and got whatever she wanted no consequences.
66 likesThe dad actually attempted suicide after they found Caylee's body. He wrote a note saying "I need to be with Caylee". That shit is heartbreaking.
211 likesAnd then to be falsely accused of child molestation during your own daughter's trial ('falsely' because there wasn't a shred of evidence. Literally, the defence never brought it up again after the opening statement) I don't know how anybody can feel anything other than pity for the guy. What a fucking unfortunate life to marry a narcissist and bear a psychopath.
@Eric and Emily somers what's an old he? Your devious human resources... Boss?
2 likesI’m still at a loss for words on that
1 likeI blame them for allowing her to get away with everything her whole life. She was literally moulded in that
71 likesDinkleDigeroo no, he was stone faced bc they already knew this was going to be the accusation made against him. None of this was new or shocking to them. They knew in their hearts their narcissistic daughter murdered their granddaughter and would say anything to appear the victim, and they did not help her escape justice. It was clear even before the trials that they believed she killed Caylee and they did what they could to help law enforcement while also being hounded by the media at every turn.
64 likes@Buck Fuddy nice name
4 likesLauren W idk where you saw that cause the last thing I heard was her father wants nothing to do with her ever again but Cindy does talk to her every once in awhile.
20 likes@Kelly what documentary is that
1 like@McNulty's Sober Companion I agree, he was very persuasive given the circumstance that everything was not on their side, he made it work. Pity, he defended her case. Though this case made him famous, a lot of people hated him for it. But then again, I doubt he regreted taking it since it made him a high-profile lawyer
18 likes@Debra Congram who said she was schizophrenic?
13 likesid also like to add that this whole thread and comment section is stupid. try to remember that you guys have to relevance to this case and that your opinion doesn't really matter and that this is the internet, ight?
4 likesDoes she eat m&m’s? It seems the that mountain was really big and it might of had trails and such that showed the diagram to the safe. How could all of that been hidden when there were so many m&m’s thrown around on the tile. People kept stepping on them and then shoving the albums in a box with the dolls that just arrived from Argentina. I kept watching but nothing moved so the plates just showed up and then everyone filled out the form and just sat there shining there shoes at picking all the leaves that were about to fall and share there story. It was wild.
1 likeThe dad has no contact with her, but her mom believes her!
18 likes🗿 🗿 🗿
1 likeIt’s better to face the consequences than be set free when the whole world knows what you did.
9 likesIt's interesting for her, in a sense : she probably never cared about her parents, and they will certainly disown her, shun her... She won't have to take care of them in their older days
15 likes@Parkour living with a killer must not be easy
1 likeAnd this is why you work at walmart, not in court.
2 likesDemons
1 likeWe don't convict people based on a family being "stone-faced", which could mean anything. Maybe they just had Taco Bell and weren't close enough to a bathroom!
12 likesThere's an interview with the parents...they have cut her out of their lives completely.
4 likesIt could be argued that her parents are equally responsible for their grandchild, Caylee's death.
8 likesThey enable and created the monster that is Casey.
ParkourBear pretty sure they got divorced.
2 likesI think the case needs to be reopened and she needs to take reaponsibility for her actions! I hope her nights are full of her daughters untested screams and that she finds herself feeling overwhelmed with guilt to the point her happiness is more like a nightmare! I have a 3 year old son, and he is a handful, and no i can't do what i want, but the time i spend with him, i juat feel so complete. So again, this case just absolutely makes me so angry!
19 likesWhat did the dad being a pedo have to do with her killong her daughter anyways!!?? Seems like casey might have done some extra work to get off the line if you know what i mean.
22 likesHer parents are equally as guilty. That whole family had some sketchy shit going on. No doubt.
16 likesConsidering half her family thought she was guilty . . . I know her brother thought she was.
15 likesYep!!!!
0 likesAnd because they accused her dad of messing with her
2 likesYes she is guilty. Her family knows she is guilty to. Such a crazy family
14 likeseveryone knows she is guilty. I was flabergasted with this verdict. shows how are justice system is not perfect and anyone can manipulate the truth.
10 likesPathological liar is an understatement.
9 likesThe only emotion she showed the entire trial was when she found out she was innocent
13 likes@Parkour there is a documentary about the parents and how they dealt with it on hulu
1 like@Lon Spector if you thought your family was dysfunctional...meet the Anthony's!
4 likes@Paper Mario she said chlorophill haha whatever
0 likesDinkleDigeroo he was probably told that would be said beforehand.
0 likes@Kel B I take it you DNT have kids
1 likeWait so is she free???
3 likes@liberty Jeez that's quite messed up.
0 likes@M T her family didn't pay for the attorney!! He did it for free cuz it was a high profile case!! he knew that he could get her off he would be famould & make millions. A Private investigator said that she paid him off tru sexual favors, think she even lived with him after the trial too.
4 likes@Parkour i saw a documentary some time ago where they mentioned how after Casey was released, an officer was going to stay at her home, where her parents also lived. The first night, the officer said how he heard screams outside his room & saw Casey's dad "choking her with his hands while asking her what happened to Caley" you can search for updates on her btw
10 likesEmm Katt damn. I didn’t hear about that.
4 likesthere's something majorly askew with those parents
2 likes@MOsKOn wtf are you even talking about lol
0 likesDinkleDigeroo that’s a big part of this I think dad was molester and she was jelous of her daughter cause she took her place
1 like@Buck Fuddy that wasn't their defense. They said she drowned
1 likeAgree
0 likesThe entire world knows she was guilty, except for the jury. Her and that st scummy lawyer
10 likes@Hayley Longster her mother dpes speak to her but her father does not... They did an interview not to long ago....
4 likes@Egypt Cat of Denial Everybody is egocentric, not narcissistic. Narcissism is generally part of a personality disorder.
2 likes@Yoongi's Tongue You're wrong. Psychopathy is a mental disorder. You're more proof that people need to be better educated about mental health.
6 likes@OuroborosWorm it's not. It's a personality disorder which means it's a type of personality that exists while the person is completely sane. That's why serial killers, who are always psychopaths, are never being convinced as being mentally ill, because they're not.
15 likesSo is no one gonna mention if she didn't kill her child then who did?
6 likesI take it law enforcement are looking for someone else in connection with this case?
The complexion for the protection
0 likes@DinkleDigeroo horrified is him
0 likes@Kevin w How were they shitty? I mean apart from all this drama they seemed like good people. But yeah supporting the sociopath they had as a daughter wasn't a good idea
1 likeOuroborosWorm I am a schizophrenic. Thank you for standing up for me:) I really wish people would realize schizophrenia has NOTHING to do with being a sociopath. I am a very loving person with a big family and I would never do anything remotely close to what Casey has done. So thank you again.
17 likesYup but knowing what we know now we know what happened to her daughter she was.sold and.sacrificed nicolodian, Juliette.lewis in the conversation too yup she may have killed her,sacrificed her,or sold her and the MSM put this story in our faces she worked at universal studios are you.kidding me wow!
2 likes@Janneke Gerritsen Why do you believe that, when she lied about just about everything? This woman has no limits whatsoever.
7 likes@DinkleDigeroo j
0 likesyou know something the jury doesnt?
0 likes@Joan Morgan bli think she blames her mother for "making her "have" to kill Caylee. Since everything is not her fault,of course. I bet anything,that she's angry at her mother and holding it against her.lol. "look what YOU made me do,because I criticized my mothering skills"blah blah blah"wouldn't of happened if u didn't threaten to take custody"
5 likesWill never understa d y prosecution didn't go with the obvious,which was..that she planned to kill her parents before caylees birthday.slzhHer parents were the only link for forcing her to produce her daughter which they would have done by Caylees birthday. They would have fulinally insisted.Caylee had made plans w her friend to move in after caylees birthday,told her friend Amy Huizenga that parents r divorcing and giving her the house in a few weeks., to take over mortgage payments. I believe she had planned to kill her parents. Also she made up a friend Juliette Lewis.Juliette Lewis is the actress in Natural Bron killers movie,where two heartless young adults go on killing rampage.
5 likesEgypt Cat of Denial She ain't my child........and anyone who kills their own flesh and blood and in the circumstances she did......I think calling her a "Creature" is quite tame!
3 likes@goodbye jojo You tell me. As a dumb person, are you offended by it?
15 likesDinkleDigeroo if you’re allowed in court you’re not allowed to make faces or noises that would sway the jury one way or the other... the father knew it was coming that day but wasn’t allowed to be anything other than stone face.
3 likes@OuroborosWorm yes i am, very, please dont talk to me again
3 likes@goodbye jojo Since you asked nicely, I'll go easy on you. Goodbye, goodbye jojo.
6 likes@Aris Gouvas I was pretty damned angry at that part too.... Is that lawyer allowed to make such a big accusation without presenting any evidence??? That's a big allegation right there that can ruin lives even of proven false afterwards.
6 likespart 3 get outa here Casey
0 likesDinkleDigeroo I read that Cindy and George were told in advance that Jose was going to say that. They were advised not to react. People are always told not to react, which makes it hard to tell if someone is innocent or guilty. I personally believe George never molested Casey. Casey just told so many lies said it’s impossible to believe her about anything.I despise her and cannot believe that she is living in West Palm with a private investigator. Why does anyone feel sorry for this girl?
11 likesgjaeigjiajeg I am pretty sure it was one of the books, either Baez’s or Jeff Ashton’s book. Been a while since I read them. I read so much stuff on this case I can’t remember where some of it came from. And I hate the fact that she gets to work for a private investigator at least she was doing that a couple years ago. That’s some thing I would love to do and she gets to do it??
1 like@A B redundant, not superfluous.
0 likes@Trivia Totsy her?! As a private investigator?! Her????
4 likesLike I ask her to follow my wife to see if she's cheating and I'll get a vivid account of everything and all the names that my wife is seeing of people who don't exist lol!!
gjaeigjiajeg LMAO! Yeah she’s got quite the imagination! She supposedly does research. I feel like there’s no Karma sometimes. She has a place to live and a job!
3 likes@Trivia Totsy I actually believe in God, so karma isn't really part of my beliefs. I would say injustice in the likes of these situations are what really turns people away from God (heck, if she accepts Jesus, she will be saved still). This is the part where we can only trust him to do what's right. Even if it's within His plan to save her soul. She still has a chance to repent and atone.
0 likes@Trivia Totsy I firmly believe God will restore and for little children like Caylee, she will be with the Lord. For she was innocent and was not in the position to reject Jesus before she was taken away. Or maybe just my wishful thinking. Guess we'll know when we die or if Jesus returns, whichever comes first.
2 likesI do believe in justice if that's what you're talking about. But I also accept that justice doesn't always come about in a format that we comprehend or prefer. We'd just need to trust and obey that this is not in our control. Sounds like I'll be meeting you one day in heaven. Remember to come and say hi.
gjaeigjiajeg I will but it had better be a long time from now, lol!
1 like@Trivia Totsy with all the shit going down around the world, especially America... Qanon rising, elites getting arrested to usher in a new government in guise that it is for the greater good to take control of the whole world.... Hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but hey, it seems to align with biblical prophesies!! Better be prepared just in case. As Jesus said, no one knows the day nor the hour, but we need to keep watch and pray as always.
5 likesI wonder where Casey got her acting skills from.
0 likesShe threw her father under the bus. There’s no doubt they wanted Casey to go to prison. They may be terrible parents but they loved Caylee.
3 likesThats how you know the imposter was able to go in the vents
0 likesMaybe they are as crazy as her
0 likesThey are used to her getting away with lies.
0 likesAnd if she could get away with a murder of her good and innocent daughter where all the facts line against her.. I'm sure they are scared she could come after them next after they voted against her innocence
0 likes@DinkleDigeroo Very abnormal. Did you notice the psychological abuse by both of her parents during the phone visit? Look closely. The dad's body language after her Mother ask are we going to find her? Is extremely odd. As if he was trying to distance himself from the question and nervous by picking his nails.
0 likes@seeingeyegod Good.
0 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion But maybe he is guilty of that and maybe more.
0 likes@Janneke Gerritsen What if he abused his grand daughter too? He did say in the phone visit "I wish I was a better dad and I wish I was a better grandpa, you know. Watch it again.
2 likes@Stacee Payne Psycho is the same class of disorders as schizophrenia. Still not an appropriate description...
0 likesBecause they knew
0 likes@seeingeyegod The father probably confessed to something he didn't do to paint a childhood trauma, to save her life
3 likes@Debra Congram They were trying to save the one that was alive. You have to remember they were her parents FIRST before they became grandparents. They saved her life and they felt they owed her nothing after that, especially pointing them like abusive parents after the loving childhood they must have given her.
3 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion He went in on the story to save her, or was probably doing that to her. Either way ,the negativity they would get from this would ruin their marriage
2 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 @ wish he became a doctor lol
0 likes@Lea Doug 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesI believe she didnt murder her child, I believe she gave her away, she isnt guilty of murder but accessory and endangerment of a child
0 likes@Parkour they created her
0 likes@Lea Doug lmaoooo
0 likes@D Williams They must be so proud of their job. How do they sleep at night I wonder?
0 likes@Sharon Waltman totally
0 likes@Sharon Waltman and, Jon Boner Jones might think you're insulting A B
0 likes@seeingeyegod that was awful, to paint your own dad as a child abuser if he was innocent.....just to get you off the crime!
3 likes@Lauren W maybe dad WAS guilty of abusing her?!? No one but him and Casey know for sure? I know who I believe though?
0 likesI imagine her accusing her old man of sexually abusing her from age eight to wriggle out of a murder conviction might have coloured their judgement of her somewhat.
4 likesThey were in shock. Their lives are ruined.
3 likes@DinkleDigeroo because he probably was...but that's still no excuse for what she did to her daughter
0 likes@Kel B yup its true but i feel they went along with it because they had already lost their grand daughter and didn't want to loose her too
0 likes@Kel B So would I. If I had kids, I’d do anything for them, but saving them when they clearly killed someone is not one of those things.
2 likesI wouldn’t know what to do at that point
0 likesAll crooked..when you lie so much, you lose touch with reality, and with that, real, appropriate for the situation emotions. RIP Caylee. Just Casey’s voice just makes the hair on my skin stand....God help her.
0 likesYep. Her dad openly talks about how he can't get past that. Her mom looks at it like well the jury found her innocent so she must be innocent. 🙄
4 likes@Janneke Gerritsen No he didn't. Her brother did not either.
2 likes@liberty It was a crap storm of lies..what’s disheartening is the fact that the psychologists on this case didn’t see anything wrong with her..now who’s the crazy ones? The system there is broken, corrupt and out of control. The good are bad, the bad are good. I just didn’t care for living there anymore where that case is. It reeks of bad vibes, too much crime, the news focuses on it.
2 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion Agree. Integrity and intellect is more prestigious to me than having no soul.
0 likes@Robyn Daniels Desperate. Either way if it’s true or regardless, all of their issues run deep. They all needed help and the partying and lack of responsibilities spiraled out of control and an innocent life was lost. I don’t have to be Jose Baez to twist that around. That’s the truth and in this case, like many, the law protects the criminals.
0 likesI still don't understand how she escaped justice. I would bet good money that if she was a person of color she would have been found guilty.
4 likes@mydogsioux That would be a good topic to explore. I’m currently reading some books on racism. In my opinion, a lot about the system in that area is broken. I know from personal experience. Basically it came down to get away from there. I do not think justice has been served. And the law protects the criminals there and therefore, it makes for a less safe place to live don’t you think? I moved two years ago. I do believe the case is still open though. It was a sensationalized mess. From what someone said, the way Casey says “I don’t know what happened” it’s as though she is in denial. So she took those events completely out of her mind in order to live with herself. Because like most narcissists or sociopaths, to have to look in the mirror and assume responsibility is more difficult than living a lie. RIP Caylee. You deserve more than that.
3 likes@Frances Lindsay if you're interested there are a bunch of books I could recommend but I'll just start with 2. The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander and Chokehold by Paul Butler. Both are extremely compelling reads. They break down the systemic racism inherent in the justice system. Paul Butler is a former prosecutor and has first hand knowledge of the system. Michelle Alexander is brilliant. I'm not a person of color but I'm trying to be a good ally. When you realize what people of color are up against it's a sobering new reality.
5 likes@mydogsioux it is. I’ve seen it as long as I can remember. I’m reading White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo right now and will read Make Change by Shaun White after. The case of Quawan Charles, a 15 yr old Louisiana boy is also happening right now. Not to get off subject..but yes, injustice. Everywhere. And people who say stop protesting or I don’t get it..they need to open their eyes. Thank you for those book recommendations. I will read them.
4 likes@Frances Lindsay I read White Fragility! Such an engrossing book. I'm unfamiliar with the case you referred to going on now, but I will definitely look it up thanks! I'm guessing you have some stories to tell... I hope you know that there are people who are trying to change the system. It's a shame where we are considering the breadth of human knowledge. I hope people don't stop protesting because that's the only way things will change. It's a shame that people aren't leveraging the power of labor unions. Historically unions were powerful forces for equality back before social justice was even a thought. If we leveraged strikes against corporate America you'd better believe they'd be on the phone with every politician in their pocket. I think it's a missed opportunity. I had a professor who constantly reminded us of how being poor impacts a person's health. It literally destroys people.
3 likes@Laura Athena that is also the thing that struck me. I agree with your assessment that they knew/know she murdered that babygirl.
0 likes@Sarah Rose LOL 🤦🏻♀️
1 like@OuroborosWorm I agree 💯. I'm borderline schizophrenic, and I'm used to the negative stigma that the diagnosis carries, but I appreciate someone else pointing it out.
4 likes@c their opeining statement was spot on.
0 likes@annie10103 I agree with you. He’s the only one who seemed to have a genuine heart and some sense. The way the media made him out to be the bad guy was terrible. And Cindy is ridiculous.
2 likesI can only imagine how disgusted and just sad her family feel's about her.
0 likes@Radical Rainbow Equally responsible? So they also planned and carried out the murder of her daughter?
0 likes@Trystan Michelet your evidence for this is?
0 likesI feel nothing for the parents, they most probably are responsible for her turning sochiopath.
0 likes@RomyArg30 why is it always the parents who are responsible? Did they send her to murderer training school and read her crime stories every night?
4 likesIs it not possible that sometimes there are other reasons, or even unknown reasons why someone turns out to be a murderer? So many people are quick to judge and blame people just for the sake of it with no knowledge of the circumstances.
How is that interesting at all?? They knew she was guilty the whole time? This comment is literally brain dead
0 likesYeah and she tried to throw her parents/dad under the bus.
0 likes@M T regardless of whether it’s morally right or wrong. Crooked is the last thing he is. It’s illegal to sell out your defendant. Like wtf.
2 likesThey secretly expected her to pay for her sin.
0 likesAnd because they disowned their daughter after she accused her own dad of molesting her just to get off the hook
0 likesThe parents were specifically told to not show any emotion during the trial
1 like@M T how is he crooked? He did his job and well at that
0 likes@OuroborosWorm i believe he meant schizoid, but your right the label is irrelevant, noting her actions is more relevant
1 like@B33f Panda still does not makes it mostly valid socially.
0 likes@Hyra Elle Merry Christmas.
0 likes@M T I believe the attorney Casey used was described as inexperienced.
0 likes@Debra Congram let's not give her the cushion of mental illness here. this was entirely out of free will.
3 likesI know this might be reaching but I honestly think there was inside corruption with this verdict and that they were somehow involved. They knew she was going to get away with it
0 likesJon Boner Jones sir do you even english? Superfluous is not to describe someone who is ill with the flu, that's one thing for sure.
1 like@Parkour there is something that came out in the past 2 years of an interview of the parents now and what they really think happened.
0 likesHer attorney dragged George through the mud. They finally realized their daughter is a disgusting, manipulative pos.
1 likeIn japan, parents of murderer commit suicide out of shame or to atone. A fine custom.
1 likeFacts 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
0 likesHere's the thing though. Casey's defense brought up that her father had molested her when she was a child, so at that point their whole family has fallen apart.
3 likesSo either that was true, or she just lied about her father being a horrible man, and they probably wouldn't be happy with her for that on top of the fact they finally learned what a piece of shit their daughter was.
Either way, it added even more to their lack of joy at their daughter's verdict, on top of absolutely knowing that she killed her daughter to go be a party girl.
@seeingeyegod I think there most definitely was some child abuse
0 likes@Parkour a q
0 likesAnd the story about the dad. They don’t know how to react
0 likesin court they were told to show no emotion. I feel really bad for her father
1 likeI believe they had to show no emotion to be allowed in the court room but idk
3 likesHer parents weren't allowed to show any emotion or they would be kicked out of the court room.
1 likeHer Dad looks a great deal like John Gotti.
0 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion he should have became a prosecutor
0 likesis no one gonna bring up the fact that the parents were literally told not to show any emotion?? if they did, they’d be kicked out. that’s why they were stone-faced.
2 likesNo because they were told they weren’t allowed to show emotion
2 likesFrom Bailey Sarian's video on this case, she said that her parents weren't allowed to show any emotion because it would deter or influence the jury. I didn't do any research myself, though, so don't take my word as fact lol.
4 likesThere would be some awkward family gatherings after this case... 😬
1 likeThey were only allowed to be in the room if they showed no emotion, if they did, they would have been kicked out of the courtroom.
2 likes@Janneke Gerritsen wasn’t it proven false? She lied to put the blame for murdering her child onto him. She blamed him bc she knew he knew she was guilty and her mom went along with it
2 likes@Kel B obviously doesn’t have kids. Lmao
0 likes@Nikkii Lee They were only allowed in the courtroom if they agreed not to show any emotion during the case. That's why he responded the way he did.
5 likesthey were stone faced because the court ordered them to show no emotion, or they wouldn't be allowed to watch the trial
2 likesActually, the parents were only allowed to be in the courtroom if they promised to show no emotion, so they had to contain it all. It’s not that they weren’t affected, it’s just that if they reacted, they would be asked to leave.
3 likesThey were asked not to have any emotions so they could stay in the courtroom
2 likesMary Ray hey as a Floridian, we have amber alerts all the time all of us get alerts. Not everyone here is a trash parent lol
0 likesActually the only way the parents were allowed to be in court was because they couldn’t show emotion and if they did they had to leave bc they were witnesses
2 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion The parents weren't allowed to show any emotion in court.
1 likeEveryone knows shes guilty, but with zero physical evidence, you could not convict her.
3 likes@Kelly is it on YouTube?
0 likesThey were actually told to not show emotions otherwise they would be luck out of the tribunal
0 likes@Debbie Robbins he was joking...
0 likesThey weren’t allowed to show emotion or they would’ve been kicked out of the courtroom bc they were technically witnesses
1 likeThe parents were told not to show emotion, if not they had to leave
1 like@Kel B ........... I bet you aren’t a mom......... I hope you aren’t a mom............
0 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
2 likesthey were asked not to show emotion, if they did they'd be asked to leave from court
2 likesI think they had to keep a blank face through the whole entire thing or they would’ve been escorted out.
1 like@McNulty's Sober Companion Ever seen Devils Advocate?good movie
0 likesdamn good point
0 likesThey were actually told to leave after the verdict no matter what to avoid violence of any sort
1 likeApparently they couldn’t have reactions or else they wouldn’t be allowed in court
2 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion they were told if they were to be in the court room they had to show zero emotion or they would be told to leave.
1 likeWhat a crazy murderer
0 likes@OuroborosWorm okay yah I think you got enough dose of yt bye
0 likes@Diana Theofanidou What?
0 likesTrue
0 likes@Parkour didn't they literally accuse the Dad of sexually abusing Casey like damn. And he spent his life as a police officer and saw so much death that he recognized the smell of a dead person that's so sad.
1 like@M T Her parents did not hire her attorney. She was "hooked up" with Jose Baez through her attorney named Adrea Lyon, She was working the case for free "pro bono". Believe it or not they did a good job of having Casey declared indigent or "broke" which gave her access to public money from the state to secure Jose as the lead defense. She also struck a deal with ABC television for $200k for her story and pictures. $75k was privately donated to her legal defense. At the time of the trial Jose had been paid $85k for his defense and had put over 2500 hours into the case. but in the end $275k was spent in her defense BUT the total bill is nearly $700k...
0 likes@Lauren W Actually her dad thinks she is guilty, her mom believes in the swimming pool story.
3 likes@M T
0 likesErm no, Casey paid him in ‘kind’.
@Laura Athena did u know Casey’s father is a police detective officer? Did u also know that the three of them (Anthony, Casey and her mother) already knew what was going to be the veredict? But they could at least have put some surprised faces or cry so it doesn't look so obvious don't you think? Looks like the detective father forgot about that detail.
0 likes@Parkour I’m pretty sure in an update they publicly defend her.
0 likes@seeingeyegod good
0 likes@Janneke Gerritsen You have zero proof for that. Apparently, even when a female does something bad it's somehow a men's fault
2 likes@wifisucks good for them, those poor people. If they went so soft on her she probably could have turned out better.
0 likes@seeingeyegod Good. Every day should be a struggle for that family.
0 likesEvery minute of every hour should be as stressful as Callie's final minutes, forever, until they die. I hope their neighbors and town know who they are.
Yep. They were shocked because they knew she did it. And Casey got to walk. Complete crap.
1 like@Lauren W even if it was my kid, I couldn't imagine reconciling with someone that murdered my grandkid.
1 likeThe parents are as guilty tbh, they enabled her and rewarded her for lying her entire life
1 like@Kelly hey✋! What's the name of that documentary? Is it on youtube?
0 likesThey knew for sure once her attorney spelled out the obvious
0 likes@OuroborosWorm
0 likesYeah no
@M T i guess it’s fine. It’s better to have 1 loss for the family than 2. Parents can go far worse like helping to dissect and hide bodies. It’s quite common scenario and has to be understood.
1 like@Kel B Do you have kids?
1 likeYou can still love your child, but that doesn't mean you need a relationship with them if they turn out to be a psychopath.
0 likes@OuroborosWorm my mom is a shizo I am tell you they don’t care because they don’t understand reality
0 likes@Tau Vid Maybe, but my point still stands. Calling Casey Anthony a "schizo" is damaging to people who actually suffer from schizophrenia.
1 like@Parkour especially, the dad. I cannot believe they brought up sexual abuse, just out of no where.
0 likes@Janneke Gerritsen you really believe that? like the saying goes, the boy who cried wolf.
1 likeThey’re guilty too.
0 likes@OuroborosWorm get out of here talk police, you are yourself a damage with your sensitivity, everybody understands what is meant when someone is called a shizo it is supposed to shame someone and it is a good thing to shame bad behavior
0 likes@Tau Vid I'm not going to bother commenting on your police and sensitivity nonsense, but it's a shame that someone so closely affected by mental health finds empathy and compassion so difficult.
1 like@Lauren W of course she turned Christian. It fits the I'll person.
2 likesJeez, the American trial system is such a bad one to me, with the jury and all of that bull*hit.
Leave the big decision to the experts, judges, not the regular hillbilly people who watch television and are easily manipulated.
This was really hard to watch.
I mean, there's no doubt about her being guilty, the kid is dead, she didn't ask for help, the note, the Google search, her behavior... But no. Her publicist/lawyer just got her out because he is well-spoken.
Well, fuc*ing well done to him and the monster's parents for paying for such a great service (while the ungrateful horse-looking monster used them as an excuse to build up her case, like she needed to destroy the family just a bit more).
I just can't believe this, sorry guys.
This is really sickening.
@OuroborosWorm because I am affected and I know what it means and I understand that calling someone a shizo that behaves shizo is a perfect fit, who are you to tell me? If you are stupid I will call you stupid and not be American and talk around your problem of stupid choices, wtf is wrong with you guys overseas that you are not willing to tell someone he is behaving wrong or going a wrong path with his life choices don’t you love the people around you so that you let them go the wrong way, what the heck is this culture
1 like@Tau Vid I understand your point, but Casey Athony shows absolutely zero schizophrenic symptoms. She definitely shows psychopathic symptoms though. That is my problem with labelling her "schizo", nothing else. I'm Irish, not American.
0 likes@Parkour i think they got "kidnapped by babysitter"
0 likes"Sorry miss. and mr. Anthony, just one question. How do you feel about have raised a murder and failed your parental duties?"
0 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion most law-systems are not about whos right, but as you say who can lawyer better.
0 likesGotta say, the guys right, it cannot be fully proven beyond ANY and ALL doubt.
But damn bro, theres a huge-ass, literal GIANT FUCKING PILE of evidence which all speaks against her (not even to mention her endless lies and weird-behaving shit. But, he was even smart enough to counter that one out with claiming it was an accident and such...)
crazy.
@Parkour i live around them and it was absolute hell for them. to this day people still drive past their house like it's a tourist attraction. people would go to their house and brawl and harass them. one time i remember i was at church and the anothonys were there, people in the church kept whispering and gossiping about them. the father got so upset that he stood up, threw the bible, yelled a bunch and then stormed out.
1 likeThey did nothing but help even at a detriment to themselves and she called them child molesters, jesus
0 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion i think 99% of people are sure, that it was a setup, and the family knew about the thousandth lie in the row. As the video states, it was the move, that saved Casey from death sentence and even lead to freedom.
0 likesPeople watching court, whether it be the jury, the family's watching, whoever, usually they're told not to react to anything even the verdict.
0 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion what annoyed me alot in watching the videos on this channel was that apparently there sometimes textbook-lines that you basicly have to paraphrase to be able to have a good defence later. It shouldnt be about who worded stuff better (to the point of basicly also lying) it should be about who is right.
1 likeBut you label it well, its the price we pay. No system is perfect, and I think the one we have is still pretty good.
Yeah crazy what shes capable of, which Im not sure how to put it, but also makes me feel sorry for her in a weird way.
Not sure whats the correct term for this, but I feel actually bad that there are people like that. I wouldnt wanna be like that. I mean being able of cold-blooded murder is one thing, but your own kids?
If I put myself in her shoes, I'd prolly hate myself to the point of actual suicide (even before her murders).
damn
They were probably terrible people aswell
0 likesThe narrative about her father was pure evil, I don't know how I could go on about my child doing that to walk free.
0 likes@George 'Foreman' Grill
2 likesI know this was ten months ago, but yikes…….
If somebody is learning English (assuming they don’t know enough English to actually speak it clearly), don’t shame them by calling them names. What if we start shaming you for not knowing a language, calling you names and all.
Call me sensitive, but this is truly disrespectful.
It's the parents fault for shielding her through all shit she did.
1 like@B33f Panda It is improper and churlish to label someone as "PC Police". We should remove the stigma around people who report PC crimes to the general online community.
0 likes@Kel B Don't you think, you would contact them in prison, and maybe inspire them to become better?
0 likes@David Himmelfahrt Sure, but I wouldn't spend my entire life waiting for them to. I don't believe psychopaths get better tbh. Especially if I know they got away with it.
0 likesOh and the fact they randomly brought up what I think to be false accusations of her father molesting her.
0 likes@Janneke Gerritsen still no proof of that, and doesn't excuse it
0 likes@Tyrone's ASMR Edits Reeeeeee
0 likesThis is what happens when you let your kids get away for anything. These brats will even use you later you save their skin which the daughter did. She killed her own child and also ruined her parents. I am sure Cassey doesn't had any remorse for anything and must be living an amazing life. These things made me feel that we live in hell and most of the bad people are living best lives mostly.
0 likes@c Are overworked and underpaid civil servants who are always busy and mentally strained. They have to take all the cases good or bad given to them. Not like a Defense attorney who many times picks and chooses what cases they take. The atmosphere in their law office is calm and quiet. Its what all the money they make provides.
0 likes@Kel B I would disown them as well
0 likesBecause she just accused her father of molesting her.
0 likesThat's very interesting. And yeah they know, I think as soon as this babysitter/kidnapper was proven to be not real, it was out the window. This shit cray 🤬
0 likes@Lauren W let me get this straight, they believe she’s guilty YET want to reconcile? Only in Florida, that whole family ain’t right.
0 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion explain???
0 likes@Parkour her father is a creep and knows more than he’s letting on. He is an ex cop, a professional liar. Even police that I know would phrase it that way if asked.
0 likesStraight up silence in the courtroom.
0 likesher family and literally everyone else but the jury
0 likes@OuroborosWorm thank you. I took issue with language used. especially as mental health does not equal criminality
2 likes@Holt Burdette or any child for that matter. I'd still visit them, but only if they're behind bars. Love them while they face their consequences as we all rightly should.
0 likesIts madness to the top level ...
0 likesThey weren’t aloud to show emotions in court, they originally weren’t aloud to show up at court but because they are family they were aloud but only if they weren’t to show emotions they could come.
1 like@liberty was it proven that the father really molested her?
0 likesshe just accused her father in sexually harassing her
0 likesEveryone knew she was guilty apparently except the jurors 🙄
2 likes@M T
0 likesTo be fair, if I was hit with a charge for something I didn't do (unlike this case) I'd sure as hell hire this dude
@seeingeyegod doubt they get death threats. Everyone knows Casey is guilty. She’s the one getting death threats
0 likes@Lil Papal State What "everyone knows" is highly debatable. Besides she'd be getting death threats regardless of her guilt or innocence.
0 likesAnd they dragged the father down to do it
0 likesEnglish is not my first language so I thought I didn't understand it right. So her attorney did accuse her father of molesting her as a child and he just took the blame???
0 likesNo wonder with the lies she told about her poor father
0 likes@Jennifer Cameron in and our
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0 likes@Laydee Stroh kk
0 likesI was just noticing this when I scrolled by your comment!
0 likes@Harry Ioder how could I ever thank you grammar police I use talk text that's why and I didn't proofread it but thanks for your pointing that out to me 👌
0 likesI'm pretty sure that's because her parents where asked to not show any emotion during the trial or they would be barred from attending the trail (since they're both witnesses and close family)
1 like@Aris Gouvas
0 likesYeah, even when he said bombshell I was not expecting that!...
@THEFRISKIESTDINGO
0 likesLmao, honestly. I forgot how underhanded and slimy lawyers get, but shame on me.
@Junger Flaanger
0 likesMan's even deleted lmao. 1/10 at best.
@qqwertyuip29vb Q
0 likesThat sounds accurate. They're probably still living in shame/fear now.
@B33f Panda
0 likesWell schizo and maybe even psycho (psychopaths and sociopaths aren't the same) are flat out wrong as descriptors, so if you're gonna have a problem with her being politically correcting, she's actually factually correcting as well.
Gets a lot worse when you find out more details about things that went on with the family during the whole thing.
0 likesLike how George Anthony was found in a hotel room about to attempt suicide in Daytona Beach at one point.
We talked to Lee offering to distribute flyers around Daytona Beach when we lived there. Talked to him briefly and told him of our daughter. He declined. And the next day police showed up at our apt to take pictures to prove our daughter wasn't Caylee. It was crazy.
Just the overall tone from talking to him, though. We could tell.. they knew. They knew she knew and that the truth was most likely just too devastating than they wanted to admit.
@Joan Morgan Agreed, responsible punishment for doing wrong is good parenting.
0 likes@TheDude_59 Dude.. she's a psychopath, she doesn't hate herself. She's happy that she got away with it, what she hates is when people say the truth or bring up her daughter.
0 likes@c most are former all star prosectuers that turn to defense for more money
0 likes@OuroborosWorm i know its a year old but thank you for that comment :)
1 likeAll they needed to do was punish her or atleast make her feel bad for lying in her childhood which they didn't. This made her think she can get away with anything even murder.
0 likes@Parkour he father attempted suicide.
0 likesThey are just as guilty as she is, imagine raising someone that kills their own child
0 likesHer parents were told to show no emotion by authorities
0 likesWhy is she laughing so much?
0 likes@RandomChristianMusings So sorry to hear of your suffering. I'd like to suggest a book called "The Blessing of a Broken Heart" written by a mother whose son was murdered. I haven't read the book but based on reviews, it should be helpful. May you find consolation.
0 likes@Debra Congram You try to save your living child
0 likes@B33f Panda Thanks Panda!
0 likes@S. A. You’re right, of course they knew and agreed to it. Horrible deception by the both of them. But then, she's their daughter so it's not surprising.
0 likesIt's what you know It's what you can prove
0 likes@Kel B ทมทมทมทมมา
0 likes@Aris Gouvas i think there is any agreement on that point
0 likes@OuroborosWorm being dangerous shouldn't afford sympathy. Stop making people think mental health is an excuse for shit behavior
0 likesThose parents created this monster. They coddled her from childhood and I’m sure they shoulder a serious amount of regret and guilt. At least I hope. That’s repentance.
0 likes@McNulty's Sober Companion Dad must hv been onto the scheme. Omg...
0 likesbut they must hv said : "we lost granddaughter, we're not losing daughter as well!!" (...)
Incredibly sick whole story!!
@c re: lawyer carisma. yeah! but narcissist or psyco/sociopaths can also hv that!! Sooo... to me this carisma is sick. That little girl's demise was...in...vain! 😪😪😪
0 likes@Cody F. obviously it was a ploy... if she was abused by her dad she'd hv done smth about it before that trial, or even after... but no one knew about it until that revelation in court!!?
0 likesEveryone knows shes guilty, even the judges, defendant did a so good job talking about 'evidence' which wasn't there, there were evidence that she did it, but a certain type of evidence wasn't there.
0 likes@George 'Foreman' Grill tell me that was a joke...superfluous means essentially "not needed"...it has nothing to do with the flu. I hope that was a lame joke.
0 likesI bet her former cop father has some influence and knowledge which lead to this outcome… disgusting
0 likes@Debra Congram Which means they are even worse than her
0 likes@M T they absolutely didn’t get Baez for her, or pay him. He took the case on for publicity (which absolutely worked), I believe on a “you only owe me if we win” deal.
0 likesThere was a huge uproar about her owing him hundreds of thousands of dollars afterward. A different member of her legal team claimed that she’d begun sleeping with him in exchange for money off the debt.
@Lea Doug /woosh
0 likes@OuroborosWorm im pretty sure someone suffering from schizophrenia has much thicker skin and many more things to deal with than getting offended by someone using the word schizo in a comment thread dude.
0 likes@Lea Doug Do you suffer from it? What makes you "pretty sure"? It's about denormalising shit attitudes, poor knowledge, and ignorance, surrounding mental health.
0 likes@Christine Tookey I think i would literally rather die/ go away to prison for years/ be stripped naked and paraded around town before i had the audacity/ disrespect to say that about my father. Like my dad aint the greatest of guys (he gets a 6.5/10 for his parenting skills) but man, that is some next level low life shit to say that about your own father to try get out of punishment for killing your daughter. Apparently its really hard to slit your own throat but dude watch how fast id be able to do it before i said that about my father.
0 likes@Lea Doug I think you're missing the bigger picture, in all honesty. Mental illness encompasses many different disorders. Why would ignorance and prejudice around any of those disorders be a good thing? Why wouldn't you want people to be more knowledgeable and understanding of the subject? I don't have schizophrenia, no, but that's not really the point. I appreciate that your brother is unfazed by, and uninterested, in stigma, but that certainly isn't the case for all schizophrenics. You really think that all sorts of people with various mental illnesses don't suffer from unfair treatment in society? As someone who suffers from mental illness, I think that education and stigma reduction is a great thing. You're certainly allowed your opinion though.
0 likes@Shana D Troll much?
0 likesIt's because they were told not to show any emotion
0 likes@Rocketship Well, yes, you know that she is, and I know that she is, but it couldn't be that obvious to everyone else if they're calling her a "schizo".
0 likes@Melinda Mercier wouldn’t they have got a really cheap lawyer if that were the case?
0 likesHer parents were instructed to show no emotion so that’s why they had none when the verdict was read and then they left fairly quickly. I saw numerous interviews with both the prosecutor and the Anthony’s saying as much. Just fyi.
0 likesEspecially after what she did to her own family. Killing her child, merrily lying about it and chatting up anyone about stupid things, saying talking with her concerned and crying friend that talking to her was a waste of time, and falsely accusing her own father of gross sex abuse, all to drum up sympathy for her pathological lying, it is despicable. No wonder her family didn't show relief when she was let off. She had put them through hell already. And does she care? Of course not. Ugh!
0 likesListen to “last podcast on the left: casey Anthony”
0 likesThe lawyer and casey actually slept together many a times
Not to mention they have her whole profile
From the enabling sociopathic behavior learned from casey’s mom
To caseys father who was so passive about such behavior
Its all on the the 3 par episode of Casey anthony
I don't know if it's covered in this video (just started watching), but in other videos where her parents were interviewed, they are INCREDIBLY guarded. They KNOW something. And when you watch the father, who is a retired cop, you can tell he KNOWS that whatever happened to his grand-daughter, the lying, manipulating little psychopath he helped raise is somehow involved. And Casey's fake breeziness....that to me is another sign. All inadmissible in court as evidence, but sometimes you just know when someone is guilty and Casey is as guilty as sin.
0 likes@Taylor Hanes - what’s all this talk about mental health classifications anyway? Why is having a borderline personality synonymous with psychosis - and for the people having schizophrenia- I am pretty certain that those who used this crippling disease weren’t aware that you’d see you as you really are, because it’s already slang for being unwell, but in a different way than they see it. So sorry you guys got the bad rap. It’s a horrible situation to be ln
0 likes@mydogsioux - you can’t use this anymore. Not since OJ. The system is broken and nobody can get justice unless they buy it
0 likes@Frances Lindsay - then you would love “A Modest Proposal” by Johnathon Swift
0 likes@Tau Vid - are you certain that is her diagnoses? Schitzo’s, as you mean it aren’t usually as violent as most other Mental illnesses
0 likes@Tau Vid - because it’s the wrong word and it has nothing to do with being from the USA, (which is the Country
0 likesyou referred to, not a geographical body of land - that is a Continent) and your typing in English.
Her mom is in extreme denial. It's so bad. Watch interviews w Cindy. At least the dad has admitted Casey did something, but doesn't think it was intentional
0 likesWhat I don't get, is how can you do that to YOUR OWN INNOCENT FATHER IN FRONT OF THE WORLD to save you when you killed your child?! Ok she's evil, BUT HOW COME him and her mother are QUIETLY sitting in the courtroom and listening to this?!!!! ACCEPTING basically to be dragged in the mud? I just don't get it. Obviously it's a disgusting lie from the lawyer to gain sympathy for CA and to explain why she lies all the time... but HOW can her parents, after everything they have done for her, support her, helping her with Caley (that's what CA tell them while in jail)... how can they COMPLY with that defense?? And not come forward and say it's total BS! It's the only time CA can't even hold crying, while her lawyer is stating that horrible accusation, because she's so ashamed TO TARNISH HER DAD... but it's necessary to HER defense. It makes no sense, because her mother wouldn't be sitting next to her father if it was true, and shouldn't support CA if it's not! They even comply with the drowning theory and that they all covered it???? I don't get all that... they should have been KEY WITNESSES for Caley.
0 likes@Kel B me too
0 likesDid anyone else notice that Casey said her daughter "was" a lucky girl, then quickly corrected herself to saying "is" a lucky girl to have grandparents that were great. This was when her parents visited her at the prison. To me that's indicative of her guilt because she knew that her daughter was dead. Casey is vile.
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For sure, that was so obvious.
45 likesI think her mom might have caught that too, but the video is too low quality.. (maybe her too but he has a poker face)
I agree that the video quality was poor. I don't know how to put the exact spot in the video when she said it but it did make me think@Sparrow
6 likesYeah, yeah, I caught that too. She corrected herself, and I was thinking “wow, she just said that”.
24 likeswhen does she say that? That conversation happens at the 29:29 mark but I don't hear her say "was"
5 likes@itsjonathansomething she says 'had' so she still used past tense.
22 likesYes
4 likesDid you watch the video? Just because she knew she was dead, doesn’t mean she was guilty of murdering her. Obviously she knew she was dead, that was her defense’s whole argument.
6 likes@itsjonathansomething from 29:43, she repeats the same mistake twice
5 likes@NikNak doesn’t mean she didn’t. That pathetic angle by the defense team created ‘reasonable doubt’. Enter the jury. Face it. The truth wasn’t established, that c just had a better lawyer.
10 likes@NikNak doesn’t mean she didn’t. That pathetic angle by the defense team created ‘reasonable doubt’. Enter the jury ( would love to meet these morons) Face it. The truth wasn’t established, that c just had a better lawyer.
3 likesA vile demon. Sickening to the core!
10 likesI really can't beleive that those two men are supporting her as though she's innocent while that poor baby who deserved to live an amazing life is dead
7 likes@Keziah Thangam it's their job
1 likeWell the defense says the girl drowned so that’s still lines up with her story
0 likes@Lelem2 no their job is to make sure that the prosecutor can not falsify evidence and that the judge follows protocol
3 likesTheir job is not to present false narrative or to aid or further the machinations of a client
A defense team can pardon themselves from a client under circumstances in which they feel a client is forcing them to present false evidence or narrative
Yes but it makes no difference to the case because they admitted in court she knew her daughter was dead.
1 like@then perish she said “has been” which technically could be used for both past and present (I.e., it generally refers to the time leading up to the present without necessarily indicating a cessation), however the fact that she appeared to correct herself to “is” is still pretty telling.
3 likeswhilst yes, she betrayed an information that was unknown at the time this conversation happened, it was then revealed and admitted by the mother that the girl was already dead, and that the mother knew about it at that point. so yes, interesting thing to note (I did notice it myself, and was surprised it wasn't underlined), but it's not indicative of her guilt in any way...
2 likesdon't get me wrong, I think she obviously did it, but this doesn't prove it... only that she knew...
and whilst the defence attorney is right in his closing statement (what a masterful speech btw), I'm still absolutely baffled she managed to walk free...
@Sebastien Aguila the jury was not willing to convict a woman who looked like her
0 likesIfso/facto
@Sebastien Aguila I feel like the outcome might’ve been better if they didn’t go for a murder charge/only the murder charge :-( murder legally speaking is a lot harder to prove, compared to something like manslaughter/involuntary manslaughter) especially in a situation like this… with the claim that the child died in the swimming pool, with the fact that the autopsy was inconclusive as to her physical cause of death, etc…. It is understandable that the jury reached the verdict they did, even tho I believe Casey did it. The frustrating thing is that even if what she claimed is true (swimming pool story) a crime WAS committed — failure to report a death, tampering with a body/evidence, maybe neglect or involuntary manslaughter. Look at Robert durst — they couldn’t prove he killed his neighbor, but did manage to convict him of evidence tampering & other stuff related to the disposal of the body. But now she can’t be tried again in connection w/ this , so even the crimes she did self admittedly commit will just be unpunished.
4 likesShe mentioned how great grandparents they were but never how great of a mother she was. I kinda picked up in that and think that it is guilt or shame
4 likes@SentientPlant I think it's an honest mistake unfortunately. when you prepare your prosecution against such a case, it's hard to imagine how the defence could manage to pull her out of the deep hole she dug for herself...
1 likejust take a look at the Depp/Heard trial that's happening right now, it looks more and more like Depp actually doesn't really have any ground to stand on, even though it is obvious to anyone, that he was abused just as much, if not more...
But his accusations of defamation just can't be proven... she WAS an ambassador for victims of abuse, and JD WAS under investigation for domestic abuse... she manipulated, she tricked, she played the victim... but she didn't lie on those particular statements that are the object of the current trial.
this is probably gonna leave a similar bitter taste in a lot of people's mouth.
thankfully, in this instance, no one lost their life... but still, she's being accused of something that no one can prove she's done.
@Sebastien Aguila yeah, definitely, it happens. a murder charge without very robust evidence is allllllways a risk though, which prosecutors know, and it sucks that this is how it turned out. Another example is George Zimmerman & Trayvon martin. Imo charging George with murder was a mistake because ofc they weren’t able to prove “hatred, will, or spite” as required for 2nd degree murder. You can prove beyond a reasonable doubt who caused the death physically but with murder their intentions are also vitally important too. Heard is an interesting example though of course it’s a civil case, not criminal. Defamation was probably depp’s only option, but he’s already lost a defamation suit because the specific events she has claimed most likely occurred. In context, it doesn’t make her actions right or ok, because as you said the whole relationship is more than just a few days where maybe Depp was horrible. But the UK court found that the specific abuse by him most likely occurred. The trial still benefits him though tbh — because even if the context he is presenting doesn’t help legally, it helps in the court of public opinion a lot.
0 likes@then perish that word doesn't imply that the kid doesn't exist anymore. It implies the grandparents were good grandparents when they had the opportunity.
1 like@SentientPlant I don’t understand how there was no arrest of her Dad, George. The defence said he moved the body. And no charge for Casey on covering up what her Dad supposedly did?
2 likes@NikNak let’s say, for arguments sake that she didn’t kill her daughter and that Caylee died on her own and she freaked out and disposed of the body
4 likesThe remains had duct tape over her mouth and nose
In what circumstance would you put duct tape over the mouth and nose of someone who’s already died “accidentally”?
@S Lynch a judge administers a punishment within the parameters of legal precedence for a crime that a jury finds a defendant guilty of
1 likeThis is criminal case NOT a civil case in which a judge gives an arbitrary ruling
At any rate…. A ruling CAN be challenged in a court of appeals/superior court
Not that any of this matters, because I never talked about policing a judge and again…. The jury finds you guilty, the judge reads the verdict and sentences to what they find you guilty
There is a min and max based on precedence and yes, if they go outside the max it can be challenged as this is protected by the constitution
@Nadiya Yossef Exactly
2 likesWhat I don't get, and no one is talking about, is the horrible accusation by CA's lawyer, that her father was RAPPING her when she was young... while her father and mother are QUIETLY sitting in the courtroom and listening to this! ACCEPTING basically to be dragged in the mud??? I just don't get it. Obviously it's a disgusting lie from the lawyer to gain sympathy for CA and to explain why she lies all the time... but HOW can her parents, after everything they have done for her, support her, helping her with Caley (that's what CA tell them while in jail)... how can they COMPLY with that defense?? And not come forward and say it's total BS! It's the only time CA can't even hold crying, while her lawyer is stating that horrible accusation, because she's so ashamed TO TARNISH HER DAD IN FRONT OF THE WORLD... but it's necessary to HER defense. It makes no sense, because her mother wouldn't be sitting next to her father if it was true, and shouldn't support CA if it's not. They even comply with the drowning theory and that they all covered it???? I don't get all that... they should have been KEY WITNESSES for Caley.
2 likes@then perish I heard "Caylee's been so lucky"
0 likesShe said "has" not "was"
0 likesI noticed that too. She said that Kaley "has been" lucky to have good grandparents as if Kaley will no longer have them in her life or something. The she repeats herself but changes it to Kaley "is" lucky to have good grandparents.
1 likeone of the most baffling injustices in american history. how this woman has managed to walk free for years without someone beating the living shit out of her is (almost) equally baffling
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Be the change you want to see in the world
353 likesNobody wants to go to jail
46 likesLife is unfair and unjust. You have completely innocent people who have gotten caught in mass shootings but this woman walks unharmed.
83 likes@69SalterStreet i'd love to go to jail for killing casey anthony
142 likes@then perish If I was on your jury after you "didn't do it,", I would find you as guilty as they found her.
82 likesshe's not even convincing, she sounds like my 8 year old sister when she lies
60 likesRight???!!!!!!!!!!! 🙄
3 likesher lawyer being an emotionally manipulative smarm factory probably helped
39 likesit might have a lot to do with her being so super hot and attractive.
3 likesShe’s out !???
1 like@Circus Brains dawg she's mid at the VERY best
64 likes@Circus Brains she’s a 6 at best
25 likes@Jeebly W. Bush true
5 likesSame as OJ.
0 likesI mean, me and my girlfriend haven’t ran into her yet lol
8 likes@Circus Brains
12 likesNo. People aren't that shallow or simple. Especially when it comes to someone killing their own child. No amount of good locks is going to save you.
@Circus Brains she's not ugly but to call her "super hot and attractive" Is a bit ridiculous. She's a 5 or a 6 at best. Unless you just got out of jail or are in a situation where you don't see women very often, in that case I could understand you thinking that way.
26 likesI hope there’s a place in hell for Casey’s lawyer too.
12 likes@Circus Brains huh!! She’s a 6 but thinks she’s a 9… the worse type!!
10 likesif it helps she got like. some water splashed on her once
2 likesi believe she at least did 2 years in jail awaiting trial. but after trial she walked
0 likes@bovine joni i know. i watched the video. lmao
3 likeswhite amerikkka
1 like@then perish same
0 likesyea the jurors got it wrong... They have to live with it. So stupid they couldn't see through it. Then making up all the stuff about her dad. Her mom just let her get away with all of it.
7 likesWhat did you just say about my queen?
0 likes@Dann she's been out for like 16 years lol
0 likes@Dann she was never really in. She was held on remand while awaiting trial but was not convicted. Unbelievable.
2 likesI don’t understand any of this. She’s on the streets out there somewhere, free and still living?
1 likeAbsolutely no one wants to go to jail for this pathological liar
1 likeShe’s literally in my city but my city is big.. it’s easy to blend in here (Houston,tx) and I’m surprised to because stuff is always happening here
2 likes@Circus Brains 🤮 she's far from hot and attractive
5 likes@Weekend Nomad i thought she lived in west palm?
0 likesThere are many variables to why someone may be found not guilty. Sometimes is the lack of evidence - see Heard vs Depp - while others may be how the evidence is being perceive, sometimes the criminal is being prosecuted with the wrong crime, others are the judge's fault - see Broke Turner etc. When someone is found not guild because of lack of evidence, I don't consider it to be injustice. You need to meet the burden of proof to a reasonable degree. Now, in the case of Casey, it was completely injustice.
2 likes@Jeebly W. Bush she is very mid. In the 2000’s though? She would be considered hot af and hot people are innocent.
0 likeslol
0 likesPeople jumping straight to vigilantism and mob justice never gets old. Its just as psychotic lol
1 like@J. Lucas de Castro Araújo the phrase is "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt." Everyone ignores the reasonable part and just hear beyond a doubt. A reasonable person can look at the evidence and say she did not act like a mother who lost her child, she acted like a mother who killed her child. A reasonable person can follow the evidence given and draw a pretty solid conclusion. If it was simply beyond a doubt, no one would ever go to jail, even if you saw them do it, it could have been their evil twin!
2 likes@Circus Brains a súper hot?? Come on I have seen womens more Beauty going straight to jail
0 likesDon't talk so dumb! Casey is innocent!
0 likes@Gary Mikels please tell me that's sarcasm. There is so much evidence proving she did it. Everyone says it's circumstantial but I don't think they know what that means.
3 likes@Jarthen Greenmeadow says who? You? Some dork in some YouTube comments?
0 likes@Elizabeth McCoy ayooo 😂😂😂😂😂
1 like@Elizabeth McCoy related?
0 likesFeminist laws
0 likes@Asphalt - Cowboy94 you're -5 🤣
0 likesI actually now regret watching this documentary. It simply proves the fact that justice cannot be served. I understand that it is his job to win the case, but how could you sleep knowing you just fabricated evidence to let a murderer walk away like that.. This is so deeply disturbing and I am heartbroken for the little girl. She did NOT deserve this!
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Isn’t it insane??!!!!!! This is narcissism so much worse than anything I’ve ever seen ever!
31 likes@Danielle Minerva to be fair i doubt it's the lawyer who made that up it's likely during discussion with Casey she made it up and told that to her lawyer who just used it cause he has to it's his job to try his utmost to defend his client
22 likesLawyers are not judge. Period. To decide what is right or wrong is judge's decision. A lawyer's work is to provide a voice for the defendant so that the dependent has a say to matters. Lawyers are not judges and they do not decide anything by themselves.
25 likesImo it’s on the jury. Why did that baby have duct tape wrapped around her head, and why wasn’t what Casey journaled about and her actions during the disappearance say what her true feelings were? Onus is on the jury
48 likes@aetherisc I agree entirely. It's the system itself and the jury who let this girl down. I genuinely do not understand how anyone let alone a panel of 12 people that are right in the thick of it could find this disgusting skank not guilty. Sometimes I wish I was able to be on a jury to make sure that the correct verdict is rendered.. i seriously can't get over the fact that they let her go.
15 likes@Shrey Jain judges don’t decide right or wrong. The jury do.
4 likes1 hour 7 minutes en 54 seconds.. at the end.. WASTE OF TIME!
3 likesThe jury are tools, they got absolutely played by the attorney.
8 likes@Novkorova I never said that jury made right or wrong decision. Yes lawyers have a choice but even so it's their f'ing job to try save the client no matter what. They are only the official voice for their client and it doesn't matter whether the client is innocent or guilty.
3 likes@Shrey Jain a lawyer's job shouldn't be to defend their client at all costs. it should be to give them a fair chance. in other words, when the defendant is guilty, the defense attorney should be the devil's advocate.
8 likesBUT that still means being honest, and using valid, relevant arguments. fabricating a backstory for Casey, or (if you believe Casey was the one to tell that story), use past abuse inflicted on Casey to justify and "humanize" her as to make her character seem innocent is so wrong on so many levels... morally speaking, those attorneys have failed.
@Shrey Jain i used the word "should" in the beginning for a reason. "living in [my] fairyland", as you put it, was literally the point. The current legal system NEEDS to change, because currently it's broken and it's pretending to me way more moral and just than it is. I was moreso discussing what the legal system SHOULD be like, or what it wrongly pretends to be.
0 likes@The Sleepy Dot the system is just lol. This is how it should work. The jury is there for decide. It's no one but jury's fault if the offender is saved. Lawyer's job is that what it is now and it shouldn't change. If you change that there will be a ton s..t of problem coming along with it.
0 likes@The Sleepy Dot I'm not delusional not am I ignorant. I live in India and trust me the system you have is far better than what we have here. People use emotions and so called morality here and it's being misused heavily. The only thing we're better at is gun control. You may think it's a good idea to change it all but you don't look at other countries as example. You'll be far worse if this morality thing you talk about come in.
0 likes@Shrey Jain “better” isn’t the same as “good”. the current system is also heavily based on emotions, which is why lawyers can get away with defaming people (accusing them of being addicts and such) to convince a jury/judge they are criminals and abusers, why black people and other minorities are disproportionately being sent to serve time/given the death penalty in comparison to non-minorities, and why Casey walks free. we can’t settle for this legal system just because in other places it’s worse…
1 like@The Sleepy Dot I'm not saying it can't be better. Of course there need to be more regulations so that the system improves. But the approach you have mentioned is a proved failed system. It doesn't work. I've seen people in USA talk about making USA a socialist country because there is more so called equality. You have no idea how much harm it would do. USA is a superpower for a reason. Things have worked for you. Think about that at least. This morality and passionate approach is bogus. Just look how Biden has made a joke of USA. You're about to go in recession. Things are way better and just in USA. You should be happy to be there.
0 likes@Shrey Jain I’m not American, actually. And I understand that in some ways the American legal system works. In my country, it’s very very VERY rare for sexual harassers or abusers to face consequences. In America it’s still rare, but less rare than where I life, and in that sense it’s improving, which I do somewhat appreciate. However, I am still very passionate against the legal system there because I still see glaring, huge issues.
0 likesAnd no, socialism wasn’t proven as a failed system. Countries that implemented socialist regulations were far better off than they were under capitalism, but so far there is no example of a true socialist country/government because capitalism is far more profitable for the rich, who will do anything and everything to prevent countries from becoming socialist, or god forbid communist.
To be honest, I’m getting really tired talking about this topic. If you decide to respond again, I’ll hear you out, but I’m about ready to call it quits. We can just agree to disagree.
@Shrey Jain Does that job include writing shitty books after the fact?
0 likesHow did they explain away the duct tape on Kaylee’s body, and the fact that Casey was at the store with just her boyfriend the same day that Kaylee disappeared??? And the fact that there never was a babysitter? And that everything she told the police (and everyone else) was a lie????? What an effing travesty of justice….
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Obviously Caylee didn't drown but even if she had, isn't it a crime to remove a dead body from a scene and dispose of her illegally? Isn't it a crime to obstruct justice by lying to the police time after time?
100 likes@bostonwhofan She was found guilty on counts 4--7, all of which were about lying to law enforcement. She was found guilty for what they could prove. But, she spent a few years in jail leading up to the trial, so she had paid her time in regards to lying to law enforcement, so she had to do no extra (or very little, like 5 days) time for it.
48 likesIt’s insanity!!!!! Freken Mercury must have been in damn retrograde or something!!!!!!!!!
9 likesIncompetent, arrogant and complaicent prosecution
5 likesShe was overcharged. (Not morally but legally)
14 likesThe prosecutors should have only charged based on what they could prove.
Actually, the jury said Casey was a good mother and she had no motive to kill her daughter.. and they also said the duct tape and the chloroform were not convincing enough ..lol
6 likesHer Lawyer was a genius and made it so that all the compulsive lying looked better than any truth she could’ve given
10 likes@Danielle Minerva I read that as Freddie Mercury at first and was very confused
13 likesas far as the duct tape— there was conflict about whether it was on her face or over her mouth as well as possible contamination when it was found and when it was collected. they even accused the worker who found caylee of doing something wrong.
5 likesThey never were able to. It's so sad
2 likesHe wasn’t a genius. He was protecting his lover. 🤷🏾♀️
0 likesWhat I don't get, and no one is talking about, is the horrible accusation by CA's lawyer, that her father was RAPPING her when she was young... while her father and mother are QUIETLY sitting in the courtroom and listening to this! ACCEPTING basically to be dragged in the mud??? I just don't get it. Obviously it's a disgusting lie from the lawyer to gain sympathy for CA and to explain why she lies all the time... but HOW can her parents, after everything they have done for her, support her, helping her with Caley (that's what CA tell them while in jail)... how can they COMPLY with that defense?? And not come forward and say it's total BS! It's the only time CA can't even hold crying, while her lawyer is stating that horrible accusation, because she's so ashamed TO TARNISH HER DAD IN FRONT OF THE WORLD... but it's necessary to HER defense. It makes no sense, because her mother wouldn't be sitting next to her father if it was true, and shouldn't support CA if it's not. They even comply with the drowning theory and that they all covered it???? I don't get all that... they should have been KEY WITNESSES for Caley.
1 like@Syl D i mean if they spoke up they mightve caught a contempt of court charge, and thats their daughter. being a parent makes you act stupid. im sure in their hearts when they go to bed they hope/believe she didnt do anything, but i think they know. they just want to preserve whatever family image they had.
1 like@Elvis Starburst LOL!
0 likesThe jury failed
1 likeThe fact that she wrote in her journal that she’s the happiest she’s ever been in the midst of her daughter being ‘missing’ says a LOT.
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Actually she wrote more than that in a excerpt of a journal she’s asking for forgiveness for a mortal sin. And then she goes on to say that she has done a terrible thing that must not be named.
3479 likesCasey Anthony killed her kid she wrote it on her journal there’s no doubt about that she just had a hell of a lawyer who got her free
2999 likesI have run into several young women like her and can see right through her talk. People like her don't realize we have a full view of the truth, but her parents just shoved the truth under a rug and now their grand daughter got buried there too.
1682 likesnuff sed They were being figurative. iirc somebody found poor Caylee in a garbage bag outside somewhere
228 likesDumb jurors to fall for a slick-talking defense attorney. But the prosecutor should have seen this coming and stressed "beyond reasonable doubt" versus "beyond all doubt."
845 likesSure she threw her dad under the bus. I am sure that was just another lie.
570 likesSo nobody is going to mention the DUCK TAPE that was on her skeletal remains?? Even if her daughter drowned in a swimming pool and she didn’t know what to do how do you explain the duck tape...just how?
1199 likesI cried for three days straight when the hamster escaped for the fortieth time and never came back. We had a ceremonial funeral and Casey isn’t pressed at all .
461 likesAnd yet no ever asked her about the circumstances concerning the last time Caylee was in her presence.
196 likes@Tilted Halo different people react differently, she might have been crazy or sociophatic or whatever but is there enough evidence to convict her of murder? no, not really... does this mean that a well executed crime (or just one missing evidence) even if it is very obvious can be defended in court? sure, just ask OJ.
68 likesincognito psychology and law intersect daily and not in a compatible way . Her demeanor , responses, history of lying are obviously highly suspect and rightly so but not enough to convict . Throw in a trial by media ( ask OJ) and you end up with a similar outcome.
128 likes@nuff sed Pretty sure that was a figure of speech. lol
10 likes@jennifer ceballos aaaaaaaaaaaa
0 likes@Kat The duct tape was mentioned by the prosecution and a big reason that it was ruled a murder, but the defense got an expert to say that there was no dna on the tape and threw doubt in that piece of evidence.
101 likesTrue sad
6 likes@incognito people that followed this from day one like i have knows she did this after listening to all depositions etc. It paints the full pic. I never forget wheb Cindys boss said Cindy told her she found the car and it smalled like death and she told her boss of Casey did anything to that baby....Cindy knew that baby was dead from that car.
148 likes@Birdsong i'm on board with you, 99.9% she did it, everything points towards it, my point was never that shes innocent... but what you know and what you can prove in a court of law are two different things.
95 likesDon't mean to be a stickler...but it's actually"duct"tape...but I obviously comprehend the point u make & agree wholeheartedly @Kat
56 likes@Kat she didn't die in the pool, xany the nanny (xanax) killed her ,casey had been giving it to caylee so she would hv more time to do whatever&one day she gave her too much maybe by accident, maybe on purpose but it's a fact. She was dosing her bc the grandparents would later say that sometimes caylee would be super tired with dark circles around her eyes & a missed toddler nap wouldn't be the reason bc the child would sleep for hr's&it was really hard to wake her she would be listless&nodding bck off to sleep but they nvr dreamed it was casey (their lil princess ).
148 likesYes. Didn't she get some kind of celebratory tattoo as well?
52 likesJayson Price - Correct, but there is a brand of duct tape called ‘Duck Tape’. Lots of people call it duck tape, like Sellotape can mean any clear, plastic tape.
36 likes@Stéphanie Yep, that goes WAY beyond the lawyer's excuse. She's a narcissist sociopath who only cares about her own gratification.
97 likesWhy and how she wasn't convicted (the not-guilty charges at the end) despite the journal and shit boggles my fucking mind.
97 likes@Kat that's what's so fascinating about this woman.
57 likesHer life is so filled with lies that you don't know what to believe.
Did she really murder her or did she simulate a murder to hide a neglectful drowning. And she feels remorseful for that.
Plot twist: Casey, 32, lives in South Florida in the home of Patrick McKenna, a private detective who was the lead investigator on her defense team. She works for him as a researcher.
What became of Zenaida ‘Zanny the Nanny’ Gonzalez, who Casey claimed was caring for Caylee when she went missing?
Gonzalez was interviewed by police, but no charges were ever filed against her in the case. She sued Casey for defamation in 2013, but that case was tossed out of courtin 2015 after a federal judge said Casey’s statements did not legally qualify as malicious.
In January 2016, Gonzalez was arrested on theft charges after Osceola County (Florida) deputies said that while working as a cleaner at a motel, she stole a cancer patient’s credit card and charged $850 on it at area stores
@jennifer ceballos was it so she could go out party?
5 likes@matthew beck Feelings what are they?
1 like@Kat
107 likesEXACTLY. plus what she typed into the computer: foolproof suffocation. plus what she wrote in her journal: i have committed a mortal sin that I can't name...…. COME ON!!!!!!!
nuff sed There's not much in your comment that implies sarcasm. It reads like an actual question
0 likesJayson Price Actually, it is called “duck tape”. That was the original term for it and is called duck tape because it is made using duck canvas. “Duct tape” is a mispronunciation.
15 likesHmmmm thats damning evidence in itself!! I didn't even think of that. Why wasn't the journal brought up at the trial??
13 likesAngela Tegos RIGHT?!! It breaks my heart...she twisted so many peoples minds😢
5 likesShe was just being honest, I think, because it is most likely true.
13 likesThat is female psychology. If they get lots of attention, no matter the source or cause, they love it, "look mom, I'm on tv!!" I bet she still gets lots of fan mail even now, she loves this shit.
Yes! She also talks about "a choice she's MADE". The murder was NOT an accident as so many people believe. She WILLINGLY decided to kill her daughter: hence the google searches. I don't get how people cannot just SEE it!
64 likesand that she made the right decision and trusts her judgment....? like girl!
10 likesLITERALLY. THATS ENOUGH EVIDENCE FOR ME HUNNY. J A I LLLL
9 likesThe trial was logic vs. emotion, sad to say emotions are easily swayed than logic
12 likesThe trial was logic vs. emotion, sad to say emotions are easily swayed than logic
4 likesmarcicanp says absolutely everything we need to know.
0 likes@matthew beck being a woman has nothing to do with it
41 likesLook, maybe she really, really didn't want a child but felt forced to go along with it for too long and finally broke?
8 likes@nuff sed i see someone replied below that she was not in a rug. But in Mexico there was a case of a child also, Paulette - all the media and family at the house of the girl looking for her, several interviews and people sleeping at the kid’s room also, to at the end showing a video where police “found” the girl’s body between the mattress and the side of the bed, and closing the case saying the body was there all along 😒
10 likesYeah it does. Unbelievable that she went free
2 likes@Eugene Henderson really? U serious now?
0 likes@SaturnineXTS oh well, that’s all right then. That’s a good enough reason to bump her 3 year old off isn’t it. Are you kidding???!! If that’s the case then she could have signed custody over to the grandparents or put the child up for adoption!!!!
29 likes@Cath Walsh Well sure. She must have thought she was going to get away with this, and ironically enough she was right. Fate can be whimsical lol
7 likes@matthew beck I agree with the fact about being on a Jury. I've been on one and I was amazed how you are given evidence, but you have so many questions you want to ask and you don't always get answers. I lost some faith, tbh, in the system
16 likes@Lesley It is really bad when you figure out how the "expert" witnesses twist the evidence and you want to point it out but can't.
11 likes@A. Alberts It's crazy how that information in itself hadn't led to an investigation into her father. The way that lawyer worded that phrase and used it sickened me as well. It was all rhetoric.
12 likes@Tilted Halo Because you're a compassionate caring person. God bless you💚. Your pet found the best owner in you.
5 likes@Marie Chambe A MISCARRIAGE of justice. I think maybe because her dad was a cop, they let her go so he wouldn't have a double tragedy. Though it could never be the same, knowing his daughter is an inhuman monster
10 likes@GGR TheMostGodless LOL!!!!! That is just ABNORMAL PSYCHOLOGY.
3 likesIts speaks volumes. What shouldve been on that journal was her pain at the very least
12 likesExactly! Like I kinda get how you can explain things said/done publicly away for various reasons (obis its all bs but it can be done) but what she privately writes in her journal with no expectation of anyone seeing it? How tf is anyone believing that's because she's used to lying and she'd done to some dark place in her head
5 likes@jennifer ceballos she must have been raised Catholic. Well ms anthony, repent tell the Lord you're truly sorry.
2 likesNope! It doesnt. She was found not guilty.
2 likesStolen 👍🏼
0 likesI don’t get it
0 likesAND getting a tattoo, AND going out partying, AND the fact her daughter was found with duct tape around her mouth.
15 likes@Kat exactly!! How on earth a jury could find her not guilty is beyond me.
9 likesGreat point!
0 likesA lot of women may develop post partum depression and feel resentment toward their children. Child birth can be beautiful but it can also be traumatic
6 likesSays everything.
0 likesIt says it all I must say!
0 likes@PuppiesandSunshine actually, both are technically correct.
0 likes@Christina M Avarage Joe US-citizens...the jurors! The whole system is a joke..the whole nation!
3 likes@jennifer ceballos Jose Baez is his name off the leading attorney.
1 likeEactly that! :(
0 likesI don't know how that jury found her not guilty. Wasn't there at least one person with a brain?
10 likesOne thing remains true for all court cases throughout the earth! All are innocent until proven guilty because Justice is blinded by circumstance.
0 likes@Violet depressed ppl don't plan murders... stop believing rubbish ...do u even understand the term post partum
13 likes@Kat My thoughts exactly, like how do you explain that. Isn't hiding the little girl's body a charge on itself? The prosecution team really slept on the job on this one.
13 likes@jennifer ceballos l
0 likes@jennifer ceballos no she didn’t, the prosecution was terrible and so was jury. She was unlawfully lucky.
7 likesSays EVERYTHING actually. It disgusts me to my core that she didn't get convicted
9 likesI hate that the legal system has become a public speaking contest more than a way to seek justice. It's like, yea she totally murdered her own daughter, but the lawyer talk so good😰 same thing when people get away with serious crimes based on technicalities. I mean, that's why we have the human element, isn't it? We're not machines fed with 0 and 1 absolute codes, to let a violent criminal slip through because "this data does not exist". The jury and the judge should definitely evaluate evidence and testimony objectively, but they also shouldn't ignore the glaring intent of the crime. Too often, people face severe sentences for minor crimes, and for others, law doesn't seem to exist.
23 likes@Christina M the jurors were actually only fed one side of the story because they were isolated from the real world and didn’t see any of the press and they really only voted not guilty because they were going to give her the death sentence but had they just done life in jail it probably would have been a different outcome
10 likes@jennifer ceballos I think it's more of a case that she had the worst and most stupid jury I've ever seen in my life. They wanted a Law & Order episode with tons of actual DNA evidence and witnesses - apparently, they never got that murders often have neither of those.
10 likes@Robin Friess They absolutely did, it just wasn’t shown here. They asked her many many times.
1 like@Dotty Orange I never heard the question ever. In every thing I watched or heard about the witch. Not once did I hear. Thank you. So what was her answer?
1 likeShe got freed? I don't want to watch it.
6 likes@incognito there is more than enough evidence fym
1 likeAGREED! I couldn't get over that.
0 likesHow in the hell was this woman not found guilty!!!
5 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
2 likes@azsuter what innocent person lies to the police about a fictional nanny that “kidnapped” her child?
18 likes@PuppiesandSunshine wrong, its duct tape, duck tape is a brand
4 likes@matthew beck Dude why are you so surprised, isn't that just their job
0 likesBaez wasn’t even that good. Casey walked because the prosecution didn’t do a good enough job convincing a jury of fools that Casey was responsible for her daughter’s death. If I would’ve been on that jury, I would’ve found her guilty, no problem. The fact that Casey didn’t call police to report her daughter “missing” for 30 days....makes her guilty. Misleading and lying to police about working at Orlando studios...makes her guilty. Going out to party and getting a tattoo that says “Bella Vita” while her daughter’s “missing”...makes her guilty. And the way she destroyed her dad with false allegations of sexual abuse was disgusting. She killed her dad too...in a sense. I don’t believe for one second her parents were involved in Caylee’s death. Casey was 100% responsible.
9 likes@Kat this is exactly what i thought. Did the prosecution even pick up on this, because with all the information given in this video only the deaf and blind would say not guilty. So makes me think the prosecution did a lousy job in getting the facts out
6 likes@TheMotherConfesser i wonder how many of the jurors might be dumbfounded after watching this case on YouTube
6 likes@jennifer ceballos are you fcking serious????? And the jury let her gooooo???????
1 like@Tell-it yes it’s true reason why Casey got off it was because this is my personal belief they were conflicting stories the friend that was introduced of the family saying that Kaylee had drowned and that the family was trying to keep this big secret there was a doubt that she actually murdered her child one of the leading theories was the baby drowned and the family was covering it and did she really kill her kid. I watched the trial on TV what I find disturbing is her journal entry where she says she has committed a great sin and she’s she sounds like she’s remorseful and there’s a conflicting event some traumatic thing in her life and she says that she hopes God can forgive her for this mortal sin she has done It coincides when Kaylee was dead or when they think she died another thing there were some Internet searches that I think she did I think the mother took responsibility for those searches because she felt a sense of guilt that she failed her daughter and that is the result why she killed her grandchild...Do I believe she’s innocent know when they showed pictures of her sweet innocent child that woman was not tearful and that one bit only when they said she might go to jail for the rest of your life but this is just my take
3 likes@Abby S. Pumpkins The prosecution was unable to prove, BEYOND a shadow of a doubt, that Casey was guilty of 1st degree murder. The things you mentioned absolutely matter... in assessing Casey's character. But being a bad mom, being selfish, lying at every turn, aren't indicative of murder.
2 likesSure, it's shady af & makes her look really bad... But, a jury NEEDS more than circumstancial evidence, character info, to convinct someone of 1st degree murder.
*Def not defending Casey or what she did. Just pointing out that the "burden of proof" is the responsibility of the prosecution. They need to prove guilt & unfortunately everything that was incriminating for Casey was circumstancial, suspicious, didn't look right... But, it wasn't proof she killed Caylee.
"It's better that 100 guilty men go free than for 1 innocent man to be imprisoned."
Yeah - it really does.
0 likes@William Munny what's this got to do with a nutcase murder case
1 like@SaturnineXTS adoption is an option
0 likes@incognito there is plenty of evidence. Failure to report her daughter missing. Lying to the police. Writing in her journal that she’s “commited a sin” but is the happiest she’s ever been, being fhe last seen with her daughter. Failing to tell the police the truth of where she last saw her daughter after multiple questionings. Having access to the duck tape. Her daughter decomposing in her car (evidence in the smell). There was so much evidence I genuinely don’t understand how you can say there is not
8 likes@jennifer ceballos dont forget terrible jurors..
1 like@CrazyMiles no
0 likes@jennifer ceballos she had a good defense attorney but I believe the reason she was found not guilty is because the State lost... not that the Defense won. The State overcharged her and got cocky and they should not have asked for the Death Penalty with no cause of death or forensic dna evidence.
3 likes@jennifer ceballos you knows whats crazier? casey is in a relationship with her attorney.
2 likes@jennifer ceballos she OJ’d the case... it’s not uncommon at all. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
1 likeJust like we all know OJ Simpson killed Nicole, it doesn’t take a genius... but to prove that in court, WITHOUT REASONABLE DOUBT, is a whole other issue. 🤷♂️
Better have irrefutable evidence, or else you’re pissing in the wind.
@matthew beck So what is your point? As you yourself said, feelings should not matter, only facts. And the facts are that the prosecution were not able to provide evidence beyond any doubt of Casey being guilty of murder. They have to PROVE IT. They couldn't even prove how she died! By your very own words you should agree with this jury decision.
2 likesI live in Florida, & nearly the Same exact thing happened to my only Son when he was just 3 years old, on new Years Eve 2017/2018, while he was left alone with his Mother, & Grandmother. He was found in a Canal, behind the Apartment Complex, where no Cameras or lights were located. It happened on the Loudest night of the year, just after the sun had gone down. When discovered by Coral springs Police Department, he had a Large Visible Red Mark on the back of his Neck, that was NEVER explained. His Mother lived on the Second Level, exterior wall, up against the canal, that surrounded the entire Structure on three sides, & the fourth was up against a road. At three years Old, my Son could NOT Negotiate the staircase on his own, in one Direction, OR the other, without me helping him, as is normal for any three year old, on a dangerous concreate staircase. It must have been almost twenty steps. So the spin that CSPD believed from Allison was, that while she was napping after a Big Day out, & that her infallible 62 year old Mother, whom had a serious AXE to grind with me, was supposed to be watching my Son, Jack. Whom they said, pushed a footlocker that weighed twice as much as him, across the carpeted Living room floor, of their 800 Square foot apartment, to the front door. Then unlocked the Dead bolt the was near the top of the Door frame (I have Photos) then opened the door, that normally flew open, & was on a chain to keep from ripping free, due to the wind coming off of the Canal, & let himself outside. Then closed the door behind his three year old little self. While no one heard, or saw anything. Allegedly Allison had woken up, & couldn't find Jack in the tiny little apartment (ROLLING EYES). So she then asked her all knowing, wise, Oracle of Delphi Mother, Debora. Where is Jack? to which she (lied) had no answer. It was 6:38, December 31, 2017. My phone Rang, & it said Allison. she has been ignoring my Calls to come see, & pick up my child for 90 days at least by this point. I answered the Phone, & the Verbatim that came out of my mouth is as Follows " Allison, you had better tell me my child is Fucking Alive, & Breathing" all I heard was indiscernible screaming. I repeated myself. I then heard her state in plain English (Please tell my Husband what happened to his child) I proceeded to loose my shit. The CSPD had alerted Hollywood PD to my location, & they shortly their after surrounded my house. The CSPD Closed the case inside of 16 Hours. They NEVER filed any charges against the both of them, & took pity on them both because of their blubbering. Additionally they both were MORE than easy on the eyes. I was Spitting Venom, to the CSPD, on on every Social media Site I was a part of. The Lead SVU Det. from CSPD called me, & said " so I hear you're going around online, telling everyone that Allison is a baby killer?" to which my response was "where did you read that?" She then said 'I personally haven't read anything, this is just what I'm told" We had a VERY colorful conversation, that I will not bore you with the Details of because I think at this point you are starting to see a Manifest Observable Trend of Behavior. The LEAD SVU DET. called me no less than FIVE more time, Both attempting to Threaten, & broker with me. I don't think she was expecting, or was ready for what she heard next.
6 likesAllison then Motioned for a Restraining order to which Michael G. Kaplan, of the 17th Circuit Vigorously issued, with glee I might add. Additionally the Hearing was Dually used to make public statements to Banish any Notion put Forward By Myself, about the lack of effort on the part of the CSPD to bring charges against the mother of my only Son, & to fortify the concept of the mental health of Allison's Mother, whom DID have a history of Mental health issues, & suicidal ideations. (It was a Ludacris cross between a dog, & pony show, & the dismemberment of William the Wallace) Then they went on to suggest that at just Three years old, too young to make such a determinization, as stated by the DSM, that he was somehow limited, & that's how he houdinied himself into the position he was "FOUND" in. The 17th Circuit treated me like a criminal. They then Gave Allison her two year restraining order, took my Firearms, to which I resisted greatly for a years time, Until they Jailed me, with no hope of release, until I willingly surrendered my Property in a Most Perverse of Circumstances. I couldn't help but observe that they took large sadistic measure of Pleasure out of that, & relished in it, Disarming a Disabled Veteran, who's son just Died in an EXTREAMLY suspicious fashion, while NOT charging the Party RESPONSIBLE for his Well being at the time of his Death. I mean, could you find a MORE Luciferin practice?
By the Time our Divorce paperwork had gone though, NOT a YEAR later, she was Living on the other side of the Continent, already 9 Months Pregnant, with someone else's child, who was still active duty. Her second string choice that she knew from NAVY "A" school, that she never took seriously, while we both were Enlisted (Another Story). "JAMES" was trying to "Romance the stone" the entire time we were trying to repair our Marriage, whom her mother was endlessly trying to Broker, & interject herself in. (Narcissistic Mother Disorder).
Ladies, & Gentlemen of the Jury, I hear put forth the Obvious Notion that my Only Son was Murdered to eliminate a Liability, & to sever ties with a Husband whom did not meet the Approval of the Mother In Law. I will let you Draw the conclusion of whom most likely did the unthinkable.
I humbly await your Deliberation.
The burden of proof for the prosecution in a criminal trial is not "beyond a shadow of a doubt." It is "beyond a reasonable doubt." Those are two extremely different things. A shadow of a doubt can be the flimsiest thing whatsoever. But a reasonable doubt is something that actually explains away evidence.
3 likesthat says nothing. When I was in jail, for example, I would cry every day because I was miserable (i was in love with a girl who couldnt see). But I would also repeat to myself sometimes "I am soooo happy" because it made me feel better. Many miserable people actually say they're happy, this is especially true with people who are about to commit suicide. Saying you're happy doesnt actually mean anything, it could mean the complete opposite. This is common sense 101
1 likeIt could simply be a defense mechanism to negative emotions. Every human has those
@Edward Li beyond a reasonable doubt is meant to be taken literally, so that innocent people don't get convicted... Even if it does mean that guilty people go free. An incredible number of executed people have been exhonerated after the state killed them... So even with that standard, it doesn't work.
2 likes@1MC I'm so sorry for your loss and for so many other things you were subjected to as a result.
5 likesI realise it's probably of little comfort but I firmly believe there is a special place in Hell for child killers. I hope one day you find peace and comfort.
Diary: I have committed sin that possibly involves murder of a child within the past week who I shall not name
1 likeJudge: lol
Colored person: 100 feet away from crime
Judge: DEATH SENTENCE
@Kat damn lol who was the detective Dora the xplorer they let her off too essy
0 likes@incognito they put innocent people in jail for in way crazier ways but now they decide to follow the law. I see how it is
0 likesNot to mention the 'SUFFOCATION' stuff was on her search history wtf?
0 likes@matthew beck wait you’re saying the second jury got it wrong?? Lmao how insane are you? Thank goodness you didn’t trick your whole jury
1 like@Tilted Halo that’s cause u loved ur hamster. I’m p sure casey saw her daughter as a burden more than anything else
1 like@Kat yeah i'm wondering the same thing. the jury was lobotomized beforehand, that's my only explanation for them not seeing obvious shit
0 likesAnd that was the concrete evidence. Who would be happy in that moment? I think the jury said guilty except for that “1” stupid jury member.
0 likes@Dj Trig From what he said, the jury did get it wrong, it sounds like The second jury convicted the police officer based off of emotions and not actual INTENT. If the young man was trying to run over the police officer in a car, then the police officer has every right to shoot and kill as he is actively defending himself against a 2 ton pieces of metal hurdling at him.
1 like@Chuu Chuu unfortunately no one can answer the question of intent though, which is why they had the jury trial. From a logical perspective of self preservation in the face of lethal threat, it is wildly unlikely that the dude would have gone out of his way to run someone over as a final “f u,” rather than tried to escape to preserve his own life. Not saying it isn’t impossible, but it’s incredibly unlikely
0 likes@matthew beck We run into lots of young and old men like this too, they're just typically rewarded with high paying executive jobs
0 likesimagine you hate being a mother and your child really goes missing. you'd be happy too, and it makes sense she didn't call the police. she was happy. anyone who hates being a parent would be happy that finally they're free of their child.
0 likes@Dj Trig Your missing the point, it doesn't matter what the intent is of person behind the wheel was, in the split second you have to react to someone coming at you in a car and not turning away in order to not hit you, common sense and logic dictates that at that very moment, the cop had every right to shoot and kill the driver of the vehicle that was about to run him over. 99% of cops do not want to have to use their gun and take another life if its not needed, however, it was clearly needed in this case based on what the guy said about the case. Im certain that in that situation, the cop clearly felt as if his or innocent bystanders/civilians lives were in danger if the criminal was actively hurdling a car at people recklessly. cars are dangerous and lethal weapons under the law. the cop also didn't have prior knowledge of how old the person driving the car was, all that matters is that the person in the car who was lethally endangering the cops life and other peoples had to be stopped with the only means possible at that moment, which in this case, was deadly force.
1 like@Chuu Chuu nah that’s a huge misconception there, you’re then putting someone’s life in the hands of a cop’s bad split second decision making. That’s an off the rails wild take to claim that the cop has every right or justification to shoot someone lethally in any case where he might be a little anxious or scared
0 likes@Chuu Chuu ngl that was way too long. Tbh you’re just giving cops waaaayyy too much benefit of the doubt. I understand the instinct to do that, but it’s undoubtedly an error once you think harder about it. Imagine a scenario where the cop didn’t have a gun—everyone would be alive today. That’s all that needs to be said to show the cop’s guilt (and stupidity, anxiety, fear, whatever else you want to call it to explain his mistake).
0 likesWow
0 likes@Dee Bree ?
0 likes@incognito criminal profilers can crack cases based on body language, there was more than enough information to spot that she was lying and had contradicted too much.
0 likes@incognito true but this is allowed when criminal profilers give evidence
0 likesEveryone has the right to be happy.
0 likes@Tilted Halo it's because McKenna worked on both cases and manipulated the jury. in the oj case he used footage of an investigator using slurs which technically had nothing to do with the case, but it soured jurors to the prosecution. people have been convicted for much less
0 likes@jennifer ceballos definitely
0 likes@Kat Idk if I can process how the lawyer got the jury to overlook that detail, as well as her lack of grief over the entire situation.
0 likesTo much
0 likes@PuppiesandSunshine no it it’s. It’s called duct tape. Duck Tape is a specific brand of duct tape
0 likes@A K God, you're really crazy
1 like@Anna Conway I just know how precious and rare white women are. In India we only have dark skin women and having dark skin is a curse. I only managed to touch a white women once in my life and that was like heaven . I wish my wife was atleast 10 percent as white as white women.
0 likes@A K dark skin is not a curse, I don't understand why you would say this
3 likesShe was happy because Caylee wasn't in here life anymore and I think she wanted to marry her bf too!
0 likesWhat makes me sick is that they most likely would have had proof if the idiot cops had gone out to Caylee's remains site the 1st time the utility worker had called, months earlier!!!
0 likes@jennifer ceballos that was shown to be written years before.
0 likes@jennifer ceballos I want to make it clear that I think she is 100% guilty, but that one piece of evidence was written years before most likely
1 likeshe was probably referring to the tattoo
0 likes@jennifer ceballos what happen with the babies dad? Man so with all these lies and she writing it in her notebook was not enough to convict her!? Fucn crazy!!!
0 likes@matthew beck ohhhh the grandma helped her cover this up?
0 likes@Christina M I don't think so, that was one of the rare moments she showed any emotion. I believe the lawyer had to drag it out of her by asking if there's anything that could make the jury sympathetic toward her and the dad didn't react to that statement either so go figure.
0 likes@A. Alberts rape would actually explain her sociopathic behaviour and being devoid of emotion and not feeling guilty for a murder she obviously committed as she clearly doesn't have your typical moral values and a lot of sociopaths are made that way by trauma. She is an empty shell, casey died before she killed her kid. One can argue her father did it given that he made her that way.
1 like@A. Alberts do you not know narcissists and sociopaths can be made not born? Trauma makes them. Parents make them. Think before you speak. Consider all sides especially those that oppose your beliefs, that's the way you can grow.
0 likes@Cath Walsh the reason she killed her kid is because she's a sociopath she feels no emotions and doesn't have your moral values. She doesn't think it's wrong and she can't see past her obsession for a made up good life. The real issue is what or who made her and people like her a walking shell of a human being. In most cases it's trauma
0 likes@A. Alberts or maybe he is?
0 likes@A. Alberts she used to be a 3 year old innocent kid. You shoild ask how she became this way?
0 likes@april silvers a sociopath can't feel remorse. So no there shouldn't have been any pain as she doesn't have a realization of her actions in the extent a normal person would.
0 likes@Patience Holmes if she had intrusive parents she could've had a fake journal for them to read, I know I did
0 likes@Emily Fisher and no government should have let a child live with a rapist but here we are
0 likes@Violet especially if her dad was the father 😅
0 likesYou're making the mistake of judging her the way you would a neurotypical person.
0 likes@Dea Dean I’d say that the real issue is that she killed a three year old.
0 likes@Dea Dean Yea and that would make a lot of sense IF she wasn’t writing something incriminating about how she’s so happy without her daughter? Also she was an adult living out of home, I doubt she would’ve needed it. But regardless, the point of a fake journal is you fill it with stuff your parents/others won’t find problematic or concerning. Why would she write something that incriminates her for murder in a fake journal?
0 likes@Dea Dean Maybe he is what? I can't find my original commetn
0 likes@valentini aholelei No she was not convicted but there’s too many things that connected her with killing of her daughter the jurors what angered me was that they said well we wanted to be like CSI like what we see on the TV and we didn’t just get that that is TV you cannot expect TV to match real life over here you got what you got and it directly points to her but I guess the theynwanted a neon sign that literally said she did it so eventually she got away with it. There’s too many things connecting her to the murder she wrote on her journal several times about her feeling like she was out of a burden and this correlates to when her daughter was missing and they were searching for her another thing that I found interesting was that they found the baby skeleton behind her house then somebody was looking on the computer for how to drug an infant ect Which the mom said she did which I don’t believe her I think she was just covering for her daughter and the forensic team said that in her car they found evidence that there had been a dead body in there the chemical compounds of a dead body
1 like@Edward Ranno I hope so. It might have only been one idiot that she winked at. That's all it takes, is ONE.
0 likes1:24
0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
@valentini aholelei NOPe they found her not guilty
0 likesWhat i find sad is that us on these comments can see it and the so called justice system can't. It's frightening really. Just listen and look at how she reacts to everything no normal person would act like that nut case. No regard for her daughter . And what about the duct tape on her little girl?? Corrupt
0 likesYes, she said that she had made the right decision before that in the diary.
0 likesin the video you can even see she wrote "i hope the ends justifies the means" like.............
0 likes😳
0 likesi think that this is postnatal depression talk. most first mothers are overwhelmed and by year 3 it's just coming to that tipping point..when it was over for her she felt relieved. i knew someone like this, who didn't show any emotions. she to was horendeously abused by her father and what's worse her mother turned a blind eye to all of it.
1 likemarcicanp - AGREED
0 likesIt says disgusting to the power of a million.
I have a close friend that’s a sociopath that reminds me so much of her. Like everything about him is fake and nearly every action he takes is dishonest with the motive of benefiting himself. Kinda cool tbh, like I know under different circumstances he would be a serial killer. But he’s a spoiled rich kid so he’ll probably just work at a hedge fund or investment bank.
0 likes@King M you sort of have to be one to work in those kinds of jobs... kind of a requirement tbh
0 likesALLLLLLLLOOOOOOTTTTTT
0 likesMessed up
0 likesIt doesn't say a lot, it says everything.
0 likesNo, it doesn't. Maybe, she could have "sold" her daughter for money (child trafficking) - which is indeed a crime but a different form of crime than first degree murder or homicide
0 likes@karuthum_unmaiyum Please tell me this is a joke comment.
0 likesWow.. 37k likes.. congrats!
0 likes@jennifer ceballos wow I have never heard about that. Can you tell me where you heard this?
0 likesIt says everything. Just like her Bella Vida tattoo that she got while she was supposed to be searching for her daughter.
1 like@incognito Does that mean that all current justice system are broken? Yes, it does. Would it help to introduce lie-detectors for each and every major crime subject? Yes. Would it help to have an AI jury that sees everything much more objectively over time with good updates? Yes. The system is flawed. Time for a new one.
0 likes@Kathy Hayevsky LOOOL. Such a stupid system.
1 likeCasey Anthony killed her child, but I'm lost at this whole law enforcements job?
1 likeDecomposed body in the trunk? Test for Caylee Mariah Anthony's DNA in trunk.
Interrogation needed to be a Torture treatment if you call that interrogation.
What happened to straight up chewing her ass and asking where did you bury your child?
What was up with not bringing another female in the room and sharing pictures of your kid growing up? Why did they not show a dead picture of your child to you ask about marks on the body? What are these search engine hits about killing your child? Why did they not try to get her father worked up about rapping his daughter and make her break? What happened to interrogating the boyfriend that was with her just before and after she killed her kid?
The duct tape
0 likes@Kat DUCT
0 likes@SaturnineXTS how's that a good excuse for what she did?
0 likes@Candice Honeycutt nothing said?
0 likes@Kat Duck tape? 🦆
0 likes@Violet except one doesn’t usually develop post-partum depression (a very real and debilitating condition) when the child is 4 years old….
0 likes@TheMotherConfesser A jury is normally instructed specifically not to consider the possible punishment in the guilty/not guilty portion of their deliberations. Thst isn’t their job at that time. They are only supposed to deliberate on the guilt of the defendant. Sentencing will later be determined by the Judge or the Jury in separate deliberations.
0 likesThey also had the opportunity to find her guilty on lesser charges: aggravated child abuse or aggravated manslaughter, but they decided not guilty on both of those also.
@Sir Henry Our Justice system is definitely troubled, but it’s one of the best. Lie detectors can be beat, especially by sociopaths, as Casey seems to be. They only give, at best, indications (in the hands of an experienced operator) that a person may or may not be lying. That’s why they aren’t allowed to be placed into evidence at trial. At best, the results can help narrow down suspects or help in interrogation of same.
1 like@Chris Stroh By the time they had that evidence to question her about, she had retained an attorney and used her Miranda right to not be questioned.
1 like@Violet when you’re depressed like that you’re worried about bonding with your child and it eventually happens. You’re depressed and you don’t even want to buy yourself anything or go out, NOT partying and getting tattoos, no way!!!
0 likes@John Hareiel That’s exactly what I said! Did you reply to the wrong person?
0 likes@ProdigalPorcupine Probably so, lol. Sorry about that. It pissed me off about this girl. We came back from Disney and stopped by the tree mural on the way home. It was the last day before they took everything down. Oh the people at it and them telling us how disgusted they were at their neighbors. My Granny even called us on out way to Disney after the verdict all kinds of pissed. First time I ever heard her cuss
1 like@John Hareiel No problem, John. There’s a lot of replies and it’s not hard to get the wrong poster! It is indeed a sickening case, it must be very profound seeing that tree mural, I live across the pond and even thousands of miles away we felt the pain. The case reverberated around the world. So horrible.
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0 likes@Aj um, what?
0 likes@Aj ha, thanks. I wondered why you were calling me absurd.
0 likes@Aj no problem. :)
0 likesI feel a bit for Casey, in one point of my life I was almost forced by parents and my girlfriend to start a family on my own and have kids when I was totally not rdy for it.
0 likesHell is where this lawyer will be because anyone especially a parent can tell this monster of a mom killed her daughter!! Blood is in his hands and one only feel he is an accomplice in this murder
0 likesCaptain obvious
0 likesnot just says a lot but proves she killed her.
0 likes@Kat DUCT
0 likes@Catherine Roberts Maybe the jury were paid, idk
0 likesThe child was missing for 31 days.......that is enough said. She didn't tell anyone, her parents couldn't know what was happening, saying that a nanny took her even then you would have called the police. She sought no help from anyone, the only help she sought was someone to make her daughter disappear.
0 likesSays a lot about what?
0 likes@JAMBERRY Her personality.
0 likes@Eternally Profound !A bad personality is not against the law
0 likes@JAMBERRY it is when your child is missing and you go out partying.
0 likes@Eternally Profound That doesn't make her a murderer though. Why can't you see that? This whole justice system is messed up ad there are many people in prison right now for crimes they never committed. You live in a banana republic where only poor people go to jail!
0 likes@JAMBERRY
0 likesI didn't say she was a murderer, you said it. if your child was missing would you go out partying every night????
I live in a banana democrat where only rich people go to jail.
@Eternally Profound !You a troll! Rich people never go to jail any where in the world
0 likes@Terry Keith
0 likesThat my weird sense of humor. She said Banana Republic where poor people go to jail I said Banana Democrat where rich people go to jail.
@JAMBERRY You didn't answer my question? I am still waiting.
0 likes@matthew beck actually detective and police rely on their instinct much to detect criminals, it's almost like 6th sense
0 likesMeaning that she's a phyco that doesn't care about her daughter, or meaning that she cares about her daughter a lot and is in extreme denial?
0 likesI know their wasn't much evidence showing that she was responsible for her daughters death, but they should've at least charged her big for those other things
0 likesCasey lied to the police, she's didnt care about her daughter's saftey, searched online on shotguns & suffication, and she did so many more shit we all can't stand.
It says a lot about how deep sexual abuse can cause the damaged victim’s understanding of parenthood,, please, don’t ,for your own awareness.. cast this women as being evil… just damaged to the death of her own child is the price of abuse… please forgive her… she will have a life of great pain to deal with.. as we all seek to be whole. Maybe this is why it takes generations or many life times.. before we as humans can say we are free from the evil that mocks our very thoughts..
0 likesBiggest detail for me? The kid drowned accidentally and she dumped the body in a swamp.
1 likeWhy did wrap the child's head in duct tape? Your kid drowns accidentally you call 911 immediately. Just in case there is that one in million chance they can bring back that child back.
What you don't do is wrap duct tape over the nose and mouth and dump it in the swamp.
That combined with the suffocation Google searches the night before, then partying for 31 days after, writing how happy you are in your journal and getting a nice 'life is beautiful' tattoo.
She was assessed to be sane by experts, she knew what she was doing.
She killed the kid, dumped the body made up a story, got caught then got off with it.
That's pretty much it.
@ProdigalPorcupine We call it scotch tape
1 like@Christina M Did they get the dad on the stand
0 likes@Paul Bush You think it was an accident?
0 likes@Kat there’s no way you think it’s called “duck tape” 😂😂😂 🦆
0 likes29:43 HAD
0 likes29:58 realizes she said "had" and fixes it
@lee wan Very very good catch Lee. Yeah. She knows she is dead and know that she messed up there.
1 like@pinball1970 fixed it, thank you!
1 like@lee wan She gave an interview recently. She claimed that she does not know how her daughter died which conflicts with her defense testimony.
0 likesThese things tend to come out after time. Let's see.
Wow this psycho been free this long? They have more than enough evidence She shouldn't have a trey.
0 likes@Antonio Martinez you know what. That's the stupidest comment I have come across. I hate Trump. He is a liar. But you cannot put people in groups like that. People are complex beings and we each have our own thoughts, don't we? I thought we did.
0 likes@PuppiesandSunshine boom. this is a grammar/language correction i can get behind. PuppiesandSunshine for pres/
0 likesShe's clearly not guilty. Blame Jeff Ashton and Florida laws.
0 likes@Márcio Rodriguez Your mind is not operating NO, no, I mean your HEART is gone missing on this one.
0 likesBoo
0 likesEXACTLY!! who the hell does that??
2 likes@matthew beck I dated someone like Casey. Note the tense.
0 likesMy Casey got two separate charges for battery and petty theft years after we broke up. Someone else's headache.
@matthew beck not the lawyers fault, it's stupid people on the jury that do not understand what is important and what is BS. These lawyer would not use these defense techniques if the people in jury's knew better than to fall for it.
0 likes@Abby S. Pumpkins I have a feeling that Casey’s father did not care what methods Casey used to (ie throwing him under the bus) defend herself.
0 likes@A K deeeaaam
0 likesNope! It doesn't say a lot. It poses more & more questions rather
0 likes@PuppiesandSunshine No it's literally spelled duct tape like air duct.
0 likes@A. Alberts yeah I wondered about her dad's reaction, did he just have a straight face when he was accused of sexual abuse?!? Very strange
0 likes@matthew beck That would've been a HELL of a closing defense statement against Casey.
0 likes@matthew beck anything for money.. life is sad. and they talk about justice
0 likesDid you not listen to a single thing the video explained to you? You overlook the fact of what was said and discovered? How she masked everything up because she was sexually abused by her dad? It became part of her character. Psychologists during the trial gave testimony as to how this works. Why she was unable to display emotion. Jeez, you really drink that koolaid huh
0 likes@Leo Strife Why so rude? So you actually think sexual abuse is an excuse to murder your own child?!?
0 likes@Leo Strife I'm not going to do a huge reply because of my situation but I will say look at more of the comments here, I'm far from the only one, she was obviously guilty, there was plenty evidence, she was not insane, yes I understand very well that trauma causes damage, but that doesn't mean that they should get away with it, she knew what she was doing, it was planned, the only reason she got away with it is money, the huge amounts these corrupt defense lawyers will take.
0 likesSick that you are defending her, not replying again
@Gillian Haney Lol I didn't defend her. 12 people made that decision for us. Don't have to reply, just pointing out that you're running a very dangerous marathon if you're going by "look at all the comments here". Don't follow the crowd.. How many of them are psychiatrists / lawyers / psychologists versus normal people who know very little to nothing about any of this and are somehow professionals from watching a video... Credibility. Always question it. You're more sickened by the fact that she "got away with it" or that 12 people agreed that she wasn't guilty. Don't be sickened by my opinion, a discussion shouldn't make you feel that way. By bringing emotions into it, you may have a biased view. I'm just asking you to be a bit more open minded, you seem very intelligent and I appreciate your time for responding. Have a good day.
0 likes@Mew it was the abominable hideous excuse for a human being Jose baez we can thank for that. There's one thing trying to use tactics.to get your client off but it's quite another using the tactics he did like lying about being abused, he even tried to get the guy who found caylee's remains as a suspect in her murder.
0 likesDisgusting piece of shiz.
@Jennie Kennedy I really hope you don't turn out like Casey Anthony. She's a crazy girl 🤪
0 likes@PuppiesandSunshine this is the evidence they needed all along
0 likes@matthew beck almost like it's their job bro. Don't hate the player and all that
0 likesHey I recently watched an episode about this on the A&E channel and there was one discovery that even the most experienced investigators missed and they didn't even mention it during her trial and that was she was looking through the internet and searched for a topic called foolproof suffocation and that would change her verdict
0 likesRight?
0 likes@jennifer ceballos source
0 likesSays she didn’t do it
0 likes@Christina M that’s not how the law works …
0 likes@matthew beck Oh wow yr exactly rt. Holycrap. No one's mentioning that the father sexually touched the daughter. This family is sick.
0 likes@Robin Friess I mean for rl.
0 likes@1MC I'm so sorry 😞
0 likes@Melissa Thank you for your Sentiment, & concern. Wanna attend a protest in front of the Police station with me some time? lol
0 likes@1MC where at? I'm totally down.
0 likes@Melissa South Florida, in front of the CSPD Building, then maybe have the after party in front of the Ft. Lauderdale Court House. You've only heard such a little bit, trying to type out all the grievous details is like write a book every so often.
0 likesJust the same, other things are at play, & have happened that most people just can't wrap their minds around. & the State has leaned in on me like you wouldn't imagine for Questioning the Narrative behind my Only Son's Highly Suspicious Death.
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1 like@PuppiesandSunshine as dumb as this whole argument is, it's both "duck tape" is a brand while "duct tape" is a type of tape commonly used for a/c n heat ducts.
0 likes@matthew beck damn u hit the nails😀
0 likesright at the start they said on the call 31 days and im sitting here saying wtf it took you 31 days to report a missing kid
0 likesNo Karen it doesn’t.
0 likesSo what happens when she has had a shit ton of LSD? NOBODY COME ON 🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@jennifer ceballos ah well she was smart to write it on her journal rather than in!
0 likesjust put her in for adoption or ask your parents to raise her up wtf is wrong with her? Im so mad she got away with murder
0 likesIt tells you everything you need to know. This woman deserves the chair.
0 likesThat's the peak of selfishness that I have ever seen
0 likesI'm pretty sure she viewed her daughter as a burden so she probably ended her life and continued with the life that she wanted.
0 likes@Jennifer Oviawe Why not give the kid up for adoption?
0 likes@matthew beck wow if we had more people like you things would be so much better
0 likesDont forget that she feels she did the right thing as well.
0 likesIf that was shown to the Jury I have no fucking clue what else they’d want to convict
0 likes@jennifer ceballos oh my God bruh
0 likesshe had a dog...
0 likesDisgusting🤢🤮
0 likes@jennifer ceballos exactly! She had an excellent lawyer! Sigh. They do say it’s easier to defend someone who admits guilt then someone who really is innocent! It’ll catch up to her soul one day.
0 likesMy jaw still drops when the defense comes out with that BS opening statement...no matter how many times I watch it. I still can’t believe she got away with it.
0 likes@ProdigalPorcupine sellotape is a very particular product as is duct tape, we call it duct tape because it's meant for usage with ducts...calling something by its wrong name because other people do it is no justification at all.
0 likes@PuppiesandSunshine Duck canvas isn't made from actual duck it's made from heavy cotton and the name duct tape is described as a " possible alteration to the original" as opposed to definitively....come on at least get it right. 😀
0 likes@Rebel Raccoon When you're watching a video about a child killer but still speak of God. 😂😂
0 likes@squiggly line There's no god especially not one who'd put a 3 year old in this monsters care.
0 likesIt still absolutely blows my mind that she got away with this horrific murder 😔 Rest in peace, Caylee. I'm so sorry your "mother" failed you.
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It’s utter madness. Only from what I’ve read in other comments, she is apparently doing very well for herself as well. Caylee sure isn’t. 😡
7 likesSo did the justice system.
12 likes@hulagirl67 agreed, a million percent 🙌😭
4 likesJurors were clearly idiots. There is overwhelming evidence she lied, she did it, and covered it up. I don't get why they didn't find her guilty. I hate that she is out going around doing whatever while that poor baby is dead.
20 likes@Rhina WBP exactly! It is so infuriating, those jurors are just as guilty for her death for letting her get away with it, in my opinion!
7 likesAmen 🙏🏻 💜
0 likesThis family is strange. If I lied about "misplacing" my child my family would not be joking with me. They would be kicking on the glass and asking the judge to pour cold water on me until I told them the whereabouts of the child. This girl has obviously been indulged her whole life. Her mother is a saint but was probably an enabler. I assume the father was the disciplinarian, which is why he was the one Casey accused.
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100%
2 likesApparently she's now out there wanting to write a book on her story, make a movie, wanting to have more children and out here partying while doing drugs. What a great person to be out roaming free in society.
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Shes in florida if we team up we can all find her
11 likes@Boop Proxy People should ashame this woman so bad that she should get to the point of confession. The community has to exclude her from the society completely.
11 likesWell, it's not like she's dangerous. She's actually pretty cool. Sucks she disliked being a mother but she's crazy AF ...still don't think she's dangerous tho. (She should be ok lol)
3 likes@Cappy 22 pretty cool????huh
10 likes@nyun lol ya she is pretty cool.
2 likesI can jump on Twitter and find you thousands of women much worse than Casey (in under 5mins lol)
I don't agree with how she handled her daughter...but I like her 👍
@Cappy 22 i mean yeah there’s a bunch of people that have done worse things but it doesn’t cancel the fact that she is a horrible human being ? she lied to pretty much everybody she knew and acted so entitled through the whole case.. i don’t know how you find her cool tbh
8 likes@nyun lol ya and I'm not even saying these people have done worse than Casey, they're just much more toxic and repellent than Casey.
2 likesCasey just didn't want to face the consequences of her mistake and the situation got crazy. (Perfectly understandable)
She stood strong, didn't break and prosecution over played their hand.
You don't charge someone with first degree murder just because the media and public is outraged. You actually have to prove she "intentionally" killed her daughter...and they never came close to that. She's cool 😎
@nyun if you killed someone and was in the interrogation room, you would act like her. People on the internet pretend that they are some better human beings, only to show their nature when they stuck in the same position with the woman they deemed horrible few minutes ago. Yes, suffocate a child is bad, very bad actually, but we are all here to take a look at her characteristics more than her act, and this is just so funny to see guys on internet pretend like they can do better than her or even acts more "civilize" during interrogation.
1 like@Cappy 22 nah u got to be trolling
0 likes@Pet3r38 lol I'm being a little facetious but I'm not "trolling."
0 likesShe's not a danger to society and the moral outrage towards her was a little ridiculous. Like I said "she's actually pretty cool" (as long as you don't take her to seriously lol)
2) What she did was pretty bad but most of the people that hate her are currently fighting for a womans right to abort their child. (Seems kinda hypocritical)
@Cappy 22 yea ur a troll.
0 likes@Cody Senn lol if I'm a troll, I'm not a very good one. (If I wanted to troll I'd say she was innocent)
0 likes2) Not my fault u guys have unhealthy hatred towards Casey lol
How braindead was the jury to not find her guilty..
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I try, but I cannot find it my heart to forgive them.
18 likesI'm still confused by the verdict. How did they do that. There's no question she's guilty.
5 likes@Anna Rose I know, right? From the people justifying the verdict in the comments, I gather that they don't think there was sufficient evidence. But there was. The jury seems to have been manipulated by the defense attorney. (I don't really blame him for that, exactly. That was his job.) But to me, it means the jury members were either stupid to be that easily manipulated or uncaring about the truth and the welfare of society and any future children she has.
9 likes1.) The majority of the jurors deeply regret their decision looking back on it 2.) Her representation was absolutely remarkably
1 like@A D Thanks for sharing that. I didn't know that they regretted it. I'm glad to learn that at least.
3 likesI appreciate the effort you put into your comment and I will accept it.
0 likesAn absolute tragedy. The lack of physical evidence of her causing the crime fueled the defense.
0 likesFeminist jury
1 like@GAY ALLAH I don't believe it. I'm feminist and I don't think she should have got away with it.
1 like@Cat Woods well she did got away with it and 99% juries would have done same but all are feminist plus the laws are their to protect
1 likeHer best friend exclaiming “if anything happens to that baby, I’ll die” only for Casey to say “oh my god calling you guys was a total waste..” is absolutely heartbreaking. Her best friend cared more about her child than she did.
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You have to admit that it was pretty funny moment. The nerve of this nice woman, hah hah!
82 likes@vidura funny isn’t the word I’d quite use but I get it lol
509 likesIt also makes it sound like this friend was aware that something was wrong. Like she did not trust Casey to take care of her own child. Maybe there were other ugly things happening before the murder.
389 likesAnd the way she is talking to her family!! Sounds very mad about them trying to find out where is Caley and trying to help, what a 🐍
166 likes@Unreleased00 gtfo
33 likesIt’s so sad 😭
6 likesComplete sociopath, many such cases.
56 likes@vidura it's not funny, it's absurd.
33 likesI’ll never get over how she’s out of prison. That poor baby girl was drugged for so long so her mother could party. Now she’s dead.
55 likesYeah this whole thing is tragic but I just couldn't help but to find it funny when she said, "I'm glad everybody is at my house," when Christina got on the phone.
21 likes@Isaac Alvarado it was kind of funny in an irritating way if that makes sense
5 likesright? the way she got tired of hearing her friends and family ask about Caylee... like woman, thats your child. they ask because theyre worried, how are you gonna get upset they care for her wellbeing? Absolute insanity.
44 likes@Isaac Alvarado right?! At HER house, for no real reason.
2 likes@vidura more like WTF...guilty
1 like@Saksham a good ass lawyer🤷🏻♂️
0 likes@Unreleased00 Most f**ked up place to post your video about love in a video about a murdered child.
10 likesAlso, on that first phone call with her family, she immediately gets so freaking snappy with them once she realises that they're not buying her stupid alibi. She sounds like she's ANNOYED whenever they bring up Caylee instead of getting her boyfriend's number (like how tf is that gonna help anyway lmao)
28 likes👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
0 likesThank you. I was surprised not more people pointed it out!
2 likesDemocrats normally have that response about children.
7 likes@Endora Darling why are you making this a political thing you weirdo?
28 likesPi.
0 likes@Leticia Lopez Makes you see what she got away with before murder.
2 likesTotal strangers cared more
5 likesYes...the friend actually cared, and Casey was pissed off that the friend was devoting attention to Caylee's welfare instead of feeling sorry for Casey. That's a big tell that Casey doesn't understand how human emotions and empathy work. She has no frame of reference for emotion as it applies to anything but herself.
11 likes@Mimu Mi I'm sure there were.
1 like@barbara seymour Not at all.
0 likesYes, this part broke my heart..
2 likesYes! She sounded absolutely devastated!
1 like@barbara seymour Judges are political appointees. It’s better for the guilty to go free than for the innocent to go to jail?
0 likes@vidura yeah it was so out of pocket that a laugh escaped me. idk it was funny
0 likesCause she wasn't getting the attention on that phone call... as soon as her friend says I'm on your side Casey calmed down and was all sweet I know honey etc.. then when her friend mentions Caylee and how much she loved that child, Casey gets all snotty and defensive saying call you guys was a waste... sounds like she was a bit jealous of the love and attention her 2 year old got just my opinion
12 likesYes that's heartbreaking, her friend clearly knew there was something wrong with her, and still that insane woman is free 🤷
2 likes@barbara seymour And what more equal, unbiased, and wholly representative method do you propose should replace the jury?
2 likesA single, all-powerful judge (aka a bench trial for every criminal case)? Leaving the fate of someones life entirely up to one person who, although they swear to be objective, can truly decide any which way they want for whatever reason they want?
Or are you suggesting we replace a jury with mob justice? Whichever party, be it the state or the defendant, is louder and more influential regardless of the means by which they access that influence is judged to be the victor (reminiscent of the Salem Witch Trials)?
Or maybe trial by combat is what you mean. Give the two parties a sword each and whoever is still breathing at the end is clearly and factually the correct party.
Or, now that I think about it, the method used that was much more reliable and impartial than a randomly selected jury of your peers was the 9th-12th century English method: The accused person would pick up a glowing hot iron rod with their bare hands and hold it for 3 seconds. If after 3 days the wound had begun to heal, this proved that God was on their side and therefore they were clearly innocent.
Or how about we just go with "Ball Dont Lie" and the accused just has to chuck up a 3 pointer and if they splash that shit then they innocent as FUGGGG my dude.
Its easy to criticize current Western systems of law, politics, economics etc. by pointing out the minority of cases in which that system works imperfectly and shows its flaws. Its much MUCH harder to actually defend that criticism and actually offer a solution (which somehow not one of history's greatest philosophical minds has been able to think up and implement) rather than just point out something that everyone already sees is blatantly obvious. Some people dont have enough food. War is bad, Politics is corrupt. Cool, we know. Now what do we do about it.....?
@barbara seymour And btw, the claim that "lawyers and judges can eliminate some" is true, but those decisions as well as the final appointment of the jurors has to be agreed upon by both the defendant and the prosecutor, so in the end it is 100% fair
0 likesall of the people here seems to care more then her mother
1 like@Mimu Mi Not necessary because Casey was saying the baby was stolen by a deranged nanny.
0 likes@Saksham thats why you don’t let normal everyday people decide who go to jail and whose not. Seriously a jury is the stupidest thing ever. You cant trust that kind of responsibility to random people. You need people who studied the law, are unbiased, can tell lying from the truth, don’t fall for charisma or manipulation. You need professionals!
0 likes@Kevin Saviro even if there was a group of "professionals" could you look at this case in hindsight and say that they could have convicted Casey based on the evidence? I wouldn't put money on that.
2 likesThe only thing that ties Casey to Caylee's death is that she's her Mother and as far as anyone involved knows she was the last one to see her alive, the fact that she waited 31 days to call the police is odd and non-sensical to everyone else, but it's not proof of homicide
The thing about the judicial system is checks and balances and it's unfair at times, there's innocent people who go to jail and there's extremely guilty individuals that walk free
As long as it works even some of the time it's fairer and more balanced than anything else we could create even in this day and age without impeding upon freedoms - remember innocent until proven guilty in a court of law
So sad that Caylee got stuck with her for a mom, literally anyone else in her short life would’ve been a better guardian. All Casey had to fucking do was say “I can’t (don’t would probably be a better word but whatever) take care of her” and give her up to her parents or friend.
3 likesthat part absolutely broke me. what a pathetic excuse for a mother
0 likesThat absolutely shattered me as well 😔💔
0 likescouldnt have sadi it better
0 likes@vidura Haha, I get what you mean. It's just an absurd response that you can't help but be taken aback given the terrible situation.
0 likes@vidura it’s weird ill be honest i was just like her at that age . A mess . but i had a great mother and i was honest i made the best choice for him at the time . she had two great parents who literally begged to see kaylee . why not leave her there ??? i just don’t understand
0 likes@Mimu Mi Casey 100% abused Kaylee prior to the murder. That type of thing doesn’t just come out of nowhere, and she clearly had no regard for her child’s well-being. A part of the friend probably knew
1 likeTrue
1 likeTHAT WAS HER MOTHER
0 likesIf my babysitter’s phone dies and I don’t get an answer almost immediately I go into a straight panic. The cops would be called if my kid wasn’t back by the end of the night. She doesn’t even theoretically understand the aspect of loving and protecting your child.
390 likesShe didn’t deserve that sweet baby.
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No, she sure didn’t deserve that sweet little girl. I agree with you. The moment my babysitter’s phone is out of service I’m at the police station. Period. My child is my whole entire world… this I just cannot fathom. At all.
15 likesNor did that sweet baby deserve that kind of a mom.
10 likesWe know there had been a dead body in the back of her car, she didn’t report her missing u until others noticed, she searched how to suffocate someone, and she lied to the police constantly. How the prosecution fumbled this is beyond me
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I am more concerned about how the jury could possibly say she is not guilty
11 likesHow the jury could fumble this is the question.
1 likeHer dad was a cop for 30+ years, do you really think she needed a Google search to find out that information?
0 likesIn another interview the dad gets asked, “what type of person would do this?”, the dad replied, “I don’t know who”. You would think a cop with 30+ years experience would have a very good idea as to what “Type” of person could have done this, especially within your community.
Wow. First, she lied her parents, was discovered for it, and faced no repercussions. Then, she lied to the police, was discovered for it, and faced little to no repercussions. Then, she lied to the world, was discovered for it, and despite everything pointing to no other explanation rather than her, she faced no repercussions and now lives under the radar, and runs her own PI firm. It is so disgusting how she had so much confidence she could get away with anything she tried it on law enforcement, and unbelievably, it worked. One can only imagine how cocky she is now about being able to get away with anything. It genuinely is making me feel queasy.
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She runs her own business? Who in his right mind would hire her for ANYTHING? Write your book, Casey. I love to read but I will NOT be reading anything you write.
1 likeDon't worry, I'm sure her life has been a nightmare ever since.
0 likesCasey's mentality through this whole thing is "Uuugghhhh... I feel like all we ever do is talk about this dead daughter of mine. Change the record already."
148 likeswhen christina said “if anything happened to that baby i’ll die.” in tears and Casey decides to say “calling you guys is such a waste.” is actually disgusting
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Just shows what type of selfish, self centered narcissist she is. Karma will catch up with her.
303 likes@Gayle Dimitri Karma doesn't exist.
111 likes@Jotaro97 yes, yes it does.
124 likesThat baby and the Grandparents deserved so much better.... if only the Grandparents had had custody of her she would still be alive
132 likes@DC Sure it does. I happen to call karma "confirmation bias."
50 likesSome people are not supposed to be parents, and should never become parents. For the sake of the kids. I know everyone should have the freedom to have a family if they want one, but some people are monsters and not fit for it…
66 likes@Serithe I just call it Karma. Who would I be trying to change the name.
6 likes@DC ironically no matter what experiences have caused to you formulate your beliefs, this is the comment section to a video that tells a tale, that clearly shows karma does not exist. And do not even start with the shit about long enough timeline, just wait etc... this lady had the exact opposite of karma happen and it has been that way for a long time. It is not a unique story either, plenty of shitters out there that never got any in return for their wrong doings and made it all the way to the grave like that. Karma is a fairytale whatever makes you happy, but if you want to know what the real stuff is, it is Vengeance. Similarly, all the fluffy bullshit from her parents just allowed Casey's ego to grow and become a monster over time. What she needed was discipline growing up, not a bullshit gradation party ffs.
42 likes@DarkRahl69 it does tho.
0 likes@DC no logic and all confidence, hallmark of humans greatest thinkers = )
17 likes@DC She has been out doing what she wants for years, get out of here with your karma gonna get her b/s
19 likes@A R I never said anything about Karma getting her, get your facts right.
0 likes@DC oh so all your rambling about karma, but you didn't mean that it would get her. Great job, proved me wrong. Very victorious, happy for ya!
10 likes@A R what do you care what I think,? and vice versa.
5 likes@DC I mean you say and vice versa, but do you mean it? If you truly didn't care what I thought would you be replying every 30 minutes with some "clever" comment?
9 likes@A R your previous comment was longer than all my other comments put together and you accused me of rambling. The cheek of you, lol. Good bye now. Will deffo he muting you.
2 likes@DC oh Lord, where is your karma? Karma help him he is rage quitting!
15 likes@DC nah. Not very much
0 likes@DC you're rambling in an attempt to win a conversation that doesn't call for a winner. On a YouTube comment section of a kid killer. What is your goal here?
7 likes@Gayle Dimitri Apparently she gets drinks thrown in her face when she goes to bars, now. I’d call that at least a bit of karma.
14 likesOh, yeah, and as another commenter said, it’s interesting that when her child goes missing, she doesn’t call the police for 31 days, but when she gets a drink thrown at her, the police are called, immediately.
@Potawatomi Mko karma exists.
2 likes@Jotaro97 basically just overconfident
0 likes@Jotaro97 yes it does... if she did it SHE will suffer for it!!! Children are inocent and God is not sleeping.
0 likes@Jotaro97 Consider this: kharma might not be some mystical force but people reaping the consequences of their actions. If someone is a liar, soon they won't have trustworthy friends.
7 likestime stamp??
0 likesThe world is so messed up it’s no surprise that babies grow to be sick adults.
3 likes@Jotaro97 Actually, it does bub. Do and be great.
1 like@Graecyn Mueller 23:37
0 likesIf you really want Karma to happen, you've gotta do soething about it, her parents should of known about this long time ago and took action.
5 likesShe isn't a human being but still, that line...
0 likes@TriggerHappy i agree completely
0 likes@DarkRahl69 why are you so pressed over people believing in karma or not? Lmao kids are weird
2 likes. And extremely telling. Anyone else watching this for the 4th time pining for the channel? And how many times have your hopes been up clicking on a random 'JCS inspired' vid only to feel let down and a little foolish? There will only EVER be one JCS
4 likes@Jotaro97 yes it does
0 likes@DC Karma is something that misunderstood Westerners deified as a coping mechanism to the reality that life is inherently unfair and that brutalists can live wonderful lives as those who do everything correctly are steamrolled.
1 like@jerrythemailman yes. At least you admit that it's something and that it exists. She'll get what she deserves eventually. Maybe even while taking her last breath. It's not yours or my decision, I suppose it helps to identify Karma when you see it happening to someone instantly and for no apparent reason after that person performed a nasty deed on someone and it blew back in their face drastically, we call that karma, it happens and it exists whether you believe it or not. I suppose you could call it a force moreso than a thing, but it's there.
0 likes@Jotaro97 yes it definitely does, written in Bhagwat Gita, said by Shri Krishna, the lord supreme. And definitely experienced by me and so many people.
1 like@TriggerHappy I believe she didn’t want her kid. I think she wanted to get an abortion. I’m not at all saying what she did is ok, not at fucking all, but she was forced to have a baby she did not want. And this was tragically the result of that.
0 likesSo true. Full stop.
0 likesit’s heart breaking
0 likesit was at that point I was convinced she's guilty. no regard.
0 likesIs that in the beginning. Can’t believe I missed that !
0 likesI thought it was pretty funny?
0 likes@Jotaro97 you never seen instant karma videos on YouTube then...
0 likes@Jotaro97 Karma is a name for natural principle that applies to all things in the universe,that everything u do has a ripple effect.And to say that it doesn't exist is like saying my mother doesn't have sex with my father.And to say that its all fake because it comes from a religious believe is also like saying " my ex doesn't really like his new girlfriend cuz he's my ex and he didn't love me ".
0 likesNeither justice
0 likes@DC if karma existed, she'd be in jail rn
0 likes@SomeGuy that wouldn't really be karma, that would actually be an effective efficient justice system at work.
0 likes@DC How would it not be karma as well? She got away, free to do anything she wants. If she had been convicted, it would have been karma. I agree, it would be an effective justice system at work, but it would also be karma.
0 likesExactly my thoughts I was coming to the comments to say this
0 likesDoesn’t even say that she’s fine or that she didn’t do anything just gets angry
@DarkRahl69 Yes! my words exactly, nice. I was trying to convey to others that Karm a doesn't exist either. Unless they are either into Hinduism or Buddhism.
1 like@DC Ugh, you can't tell someone to believe what you believe. Leave it alone and go your Hinduism ways, okay.
1 like@David Perrott ya man. Probably the 5th time I've watched this. Not even Matt orchard comes close to this level of quality
1 like@Lee Street JCS ARE the GOLD STANDARD eh? I forgot about Matt ... He's up there as well nipping at their heels mind. There's one more as well but I can't think who it is atm. There's a shit load of pretenders that really have no business attaching themselves to this name whatsoever. I probably said all this in my last comment but I can't find it so if I'm repeating myself then..... repeating myself th ....😁
0 likesYep!
0 likes@Rachel Barela I can tell anyone and everyone I meet what I believe should I wish to, but I can't force them to believe it, that is their choice. She may have a longer life ahead than upto now, and anything could happen to her, and if she's squashed by a semi truck on the freeway and scooped up into a body bag with a shovel 17 years from now, the first conclusion most would come to is "Karma", the very existence of the word " karma" proves it exists, whether or not it is just imagined or is actually a thing. But I believe it does, I've seen it in action, and there's millions of videos on this platform titled "instant karma". But millions of people would use the term "coincidence".
0 likes@DC I’d hope so, but she’s 36, it’s been so long since the incident and she’s still living a decent life. If karma existed she’d be in jail or dead but the world just isn’t fair sometimes
0 likes@W0lfMan27 Then you are by definition not referring to karma. You are referring to social consequences.
0 likes@L O I said what I meant. That "social consequence" was one example. Another would be by taking the easy path one reinforces poor behavior that would be limit one's life choices.
0 likesWow could there be anything more profoundly stupid than arguing about the existence of karma with strangers in a youtube comment section?
1 likePeople tell themselves karma exists because the alternative and reality is that the universe is indifferent. People who tend to do bad things end up making mistakes that pile up and they’re unable to escape consequences forever. Most inevitably end up slipping and people mistake this is as some sort of proof of karma. There are some who truly never have to pay for their actions and Casey could very well end up being one of those
0 likes@MidnightMaverick sure is a big claim with zero proof.
0 likes@W0lfMan27 saying karma probably doesn’t exist is a bold claim??
0 likes@DC no it doesn’t
0 likes@DC if karma exists, what did the baby/child do to deserve death? Or are you saying that karma is going to affect their reincarnations? You make no sense
0 likes@Gayle Dimitri Oh it did, now she's free. Oh, and rumor has it, she wants to have kids again.
0 likesWhat I don't get, and no one is talking about, is the horrible accusation by CA's lawyer, that her father was RAPPING her when she was young... while her father and mother are QUIETLY sitting in the courtroom and listening to this! ACCEPTING basically to be dragged in the mud??? I just don't get it. Obviously it's a disgusting lie from the lawyer to gain sympathy for CA and to explain why she lies all the time... but HOW can her parents, after everything they have done for her, support her, helping her with Caley (that's what CA tell them while in jail)... how can they COMPLY with that defense?? And not come forward and say it's total BS! It's the only time CA can't even hold crying, while her lawyer is stating that horrible accusation, because she's so ashamed TO TARNISH HER DAD IN FRONT OF THE WORLD... but it's necessary to HER defense. It makes no sense, because her mother wouldn't be sitting next to her father if it was true, and shouldn't support CA if it's not. They even comply with the drowning theory and that they all covered it???? I don't get all that... they should have been KEY WITNESSES for Caley.
0 likes@Syl D yeah but she's still their daughter, and they see highly of her, and seeing their reactions should be a bit less surprising considering that we'd have already witnessed these parents' foolish (or perhaps over-considerate) endeavours of defending against the damning evidence supporting the absence of attendance for her education, throwing an extravagant party that claimed she graduated with "honours."
0 likes@Jotaro97 Karma will get you for saying that.
0 likesHer attorney was like “they painted her as this person who lies” while his opening statement was basically “Casey lies to protect herself” Evil genius.
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I do not believe for 1 second that George touched her.
2 likes@Julie Hicks I don’t think anyone does
1 likeWaiting a whole month to call police while your child's missing and expecting people to believe you had nothing to do with it is absolute insanity.
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It worked though, didn’t it? Pretty scary.
3 likesLet’s start a petition to reopen this case. Please someone with right knowledge start the petition - we can’t let a murderer roam free of killing her child. Disgusting !!
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Yesss! We need to get her into a jail cell
9 likesShe was acquitted. She cannot be tried for the same crime twice
61 likesDouble jeopardy. She can't ever be charged for this crime again.
30 likes@Kellofwax I don’t like the justice system at all. Innocent People are in jails and guilty roam free!
18 likesPetitions never work and even if it did, that's not how the law works. She can't be tried twice.
13 likes@my hope your hope J-HOPE the law needs to change its so messed up. It’s like the judge was bribed lol
4 likesDouble jeopardy, can’t be tried for the same crime twice.
2 likesPetitions are worthless
0 likes@Mohammed The judge didn't decide the outcome, it was the jury.
1 like@Angie Arbogast that is a stupid law
0 likes@Mohammed the judge was surprised he also thought she was guilty.
1 like@G R The point of double jeopardy is to protect the innocent people facing trial. If we didn’t have that as a right in the constitution, what would stop the system from continually retrying someone until they eventually got a jury that fit their interests? It’s just awful but lawful
0 likes@Solitaire Pilot I know that but that is also why murderers walk free
0 likes@G R it’s a sacrifice for liberty that we have to take unfortunately. The amount of injustice that would be able to be carried out if you could try someone as many times as you want is unthinkable.
0 likesI am just in shock at how she is acting.... it's insane! How that jury let her off the hook is unbelievable to me! Wonder if they regret their decision after the fact? How this woman lives with herself every day is a complete mystery
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Sociopaths don't feel guilt.
1 likethe fact she still lives is shocking.
0 likesImagine being Jeff and never having met Casey, left Universal in 2002, not having a son, and having your name dragged into some murder story 💀
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fr dude was probably so confused being called to testify in the murder case for this random acquaintance from years ago
5419 likesAs a white male, I fear for my well-being in the USA right now. :(
676 likes@Farmer Fpv as a white male, i don’t
3814 likes@Farmer Fpv what has that have to do with anything
2871 likes@Farmer Fpv what? lol wtf
1696 likes@Farmer Fpv The hell does being a white guy have to do with anything?
1071 likesZenaida Gonzalez was some random Hispanic woman from halfway across the country, and her name was dragged into it too.
Don’t forget about poor Juliette Lewis 😂😂😂
334 likesThe prosecution proved time and again with proof that everything Casey said was a lie but somehow the jury found a complete lair innocent that blows my mind she’s the most guilty person in history she makes OJ look like honest Abe.
234 likes@i2ay thanks for the coke
21 likesHe never said he never met Casey or didn't know her. He said he wouldn't consider her a friend....but "more or less acquaintances". The rest of your comment however i agree with, it would be a terrible accusation, but fortunately easily proven to be a lie with the facts.
71 likes@Farmer Fpvhuh?
35 likespoor man
3 likes@I state the truth And people get upset okay, I'll say it. She never should have been a mother. If she wasn't willing to give up the child for adoption, which she probably would have without her parents begging her not to, then she should have had an abortion.
312 likes@I state the truth And people get upset for the child to have died as a fetus that felt no pain or confusion, rather than an almost three year old who suffered greatly at the hands of her mother, would have in this case been a mercy. So, yeah. And I don't suggest anyone consider abortion as a first option, but if it prevents you from murdering your child years later, then I'd say it's the right call. Now go away.
457 likes@John Smith I’m pro-choice, so I’ll say it 😁 instead of literally murdering her child at three years old, or when she was a fully formed human who was cognizant and able to feel pain (unlike a fetus), she should have had an abortion. If anything, this case should show to u that abortion is necessary. Women who don’t want kids will grow up to resent them and can possibly kill them and get away with it. Is that what u want?
411 likes@Bri I'm glad I'm not the only sane person here.
151 likesThe craziest thing is that she didn’t face any repercussions for it... it was an obvious lie and she wasn’t even charged with lying to law enforcement.
63 likes@Farmer Fpv just delete your comment.
54 likes@Zakc Odom jesus christ, some of y'all have never heard the sound 'wooosh' apparently
7 likes@i2ay jeff!!!
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0 likes@Josh 4 nicely done my friend. :)
1 likeThats psychopaths for you. She mentioned him to lead the police his way without directly saying he’s a suspect. It was honestly really smart and would’ve probably worked if she acted more empathetic.
16 likes@Farmer Fpv mad pick me energy bro
36 likes@Joseph Brandon are you being sarcastic? If not then.......what!?
13 likesimagined, what's next?
0 likesHes like sitting there, asking himself "is this real life?"
9 likes@Farmer Fpv ... ok?
6 likes@Nugget i didn’t say that
12 likes@Josh 4 Oh yeah? By whining about how "white people got this shit ez" you're claiming that by being white, he by default have gotten a better life, and if you're not white, you don't. That's not trying to say, "look at me, I'm not white, I have it so much harder"?
21 likes@Farmer Fpv please, a bit of dignity
6 likesBoy you guys reaaaaally don't get sarcasm when you see it
7 likes@Farmer Fpv you shouldn’t. As a white male in America, I can say I’m fine.
17 likes@tildeissobieberlike aw you tried...
2 likesThe way the daughter talked to her parents in a horrible way. Like wow I feel bad for the parents . It’s obvious she’s a manipulator and pushes her parents. Wow the phone call of her in jail calling her parents was hard to listen to
23 likes@Gabriel W you're taking the bait lmao
1 like@i2ay
10 likesI love this reference. “Jeff” was the man. Never once have I wanted a follow up from a interrogation before. I want to see what our boy Jeff has been up to.
@Josh 4 and I do
0 likes@Gina Field no u
0 likes@Frederick Sinclair lmaooo how funny omg xDxD
1 like@S A 6694 Mad?
0 likes@Frederick Sinclair yeah i'm fuming babe ❤️
2 likes@S A 6694 That time of the month huh
0 likes@brad titt ok and? the guy in this story just happened to be white, how does this video "make you feel scared for your safety in the US" also there was a woman who actually had the same name as zenaida, who wasn't white, and wasnt male, and she was questioned by police. stop trying to make yourself a victim when you arent one
23 likes@Nugget i was replying to the guy who said " Whites really do have the most issues in today's society. Hopefully things will change in the near future" in america this guy really said that shit, white people have different problems with other races, but as a white male, in the middle class, compared to other races i feel that i dont have the same struggle
16 likes@Frederick Sinclair wow you are smart too... Stop it pls i think i'm falling for you
0 likes@S A 6694 If you're white we can have children. I don't race mix.
0 likes@Frederick Sinclair yeah I'm white, but my kids are not going to have a racist father :(
18 likes@Johnny Sins And all the pro-lifers are silent here or calling for the death penalty. Pretty Ironic
32 likes@S A 6694 Atleast you want kids. That's good.
0 likes@Jake J do you have any numbers to back this up?
1 likeWhat about the poor Zenaida?!!
4 likes@Farmer Fpv that's cute lmao
2 likes@Farmer Fpv no one asked
4 likes@John Smith Lol buddy, you're the one without sources. I just cited objective facts, nothing I said was controversial or my opinion. You can't argue with the stats, my guy. If you think I'm wrong about the information I gave you: prove it. Just saying "you're uneducated" is intellectully dishonest and lazy.
64 likes@John Smith And you don't have evidence. Makes sense now.
50 likes@John Smith because saying that she should have had an abortion is pointless. It does nothing to change the case. Supporting the right to have an abortion doesn't mean you hate children. It means quite the opposite. We want people to have children when they are able to provide them a good home environment so idk how you came to this conclusion. People who are pro- choice seem to care about children than anti- abortionists do. Y'all just want to bring children into this world with no consideration of how they are actually going to be cared for. If you value life so much why don't you donate to charities? Or try being a foster parent, donate to food drives, donate some used clothes, be an advocate for ending child abuse, or volunteer to help people during natural disasters? Caring about a clump of cells isn't making the world better nor is it fulfilling God's wishes, doing all you can to help your community and spread love is.
49 likesRIP jeff
1 like@Farmer Fpv i cant tell if this is sarcasm or not but if it isn't, white males are literally the most priveledged and safa in the usa
4 likesThis comment section won’t age well for most you. Their already passing laws allowing abortions up to the point of birth and denying medical care to viable children. You guys should look up these new laws in NY and VA specifically. This is just the natural escalation of these policies. And sadly, by the end of my life time I fully expect to see infanticide legalized.
5 likes@Allison Saul She's an actress lol literally.
3 likes@Farmer Fpv LMFAOO you’re being sarcastic right?
2 likesFruittari Whoooooosh
1 likeYep Yep Whoooshhhh
0 likesNabs 2099 Whooooooooosh
0 likesCaitlin Malone Whoosh
0 likeshello jane Whoooooooosh.
0 likesSimmy Liona Whoooooooosh
0 likesYeah, I feel so bad for him. And for the real Zaneida Fernandez Gonzalez. I bet she got some amount of hate from idiots before that particular lie of Casey’s unravelled...
1 like05/26/2021
2 likes@Johnny Sins
And the other methods are saline, or vaccumming the baby out, limb by limb, or cutting the baby up .... yes, that's MURDER. 👺☠
@Farmer Fpv bro shut uppp I’m a white male too and being a white male in America right now is probably the best case scenario in all of history
10 likes@Johnny Sins that's not comparable. a living child is not the same as an unborn fetus. if, god forbid, you had a miscarriage, would that be comparable to manslaughter? is that wilful neglect? don't exploit the death of an innocent child.
35 likesAnd the jury still believed she was innocent of it all. TF?! I mean only thing that makes sense to me at this point is that they all were threatened and had their loved ones kidnapped.
3 likes@Farmer Fpv huh?🤔🤔🤔
0 likesSame with zenaida and the other woman she claimed she worked with lmao none of these people knew her which proves her story was completely fabricated. Idk how she got away with this. That prosecutor was shit
3 likes@Farmer Fpv cry harder baby.
3 likes@Johnny Sins actually, I think she should have had an abortion. She actually wanted one, but her parents talked her out of it. So yeah, this could have all been solved with a pill.
28 likes@JESUS Name Above All Names better than murdering a cognizant already born human being.
20 likes@Nabs 2099 i was violently attacked in Portland last year by a group of 3 men and 2 women. I was knocked down and then kicked to the point i was knocked out. I woke up in the hospital 2 days later black and blue from bruises with 3 broken ribs and a punctured lung. A homeless person witnessed the attack and called the police which is the only reason i wasn't killed. The police came and asked me questions and a couple days later 2 of the 5 were arrested, when they were asked why they attacked me they said it was because i was a white male and people like me had it coming. I had never seen any of these people that did this before nor had i ever spoke to them, they attacked me for no other reason than my skin color.
2 likes@Farmer Fpv you gotta try harder if you want to seem like a victim lmao.
3 likes@Nabs 2099 wow thanks i just turned 13, but the attack happened when i was 12.
0 likes@Steel Balls Casey made it up, but coincidentally, there was a real woman named Zenaida Gonzalez, and police ended up speaking to her.
2 likes@Bri adoption and foster homes exist
2 likes@Kaya Kat it was a joke lmao
1 like😭😭😭😭
0 likes@JESUS Name Above All Names funny, because this actual murder is exactly what happens when folks like you force someone to carry a fetus they don't want and can't care for. The so-called "pro-life" community is far more complicit to this situation than the pro-choice community could ever be
20 likes@Frankie Moore they can always put up for adoption. It’s 2021 and there’s almost no excuse for having a child without wanting one. Even in cases of rape, they should get checked out immediately, especially since we have a lot more programs that help victims.
3 likes@good kinda confused as to how your comment is relevant
9 likes@Frankie Moore she could have always put it up for adoption. Also, there really are a lot of resources out there for raped women and i helped one get in touch with a few, so maybe you never really cared to look. Please don’t talk about matters in which you don’t have all the information about. Also what’s wrong with abstinence? We also have condoms for cents at your local pharmacy and have condoms being used in teen programming. There really isn’t an excuse. Also, I’m not sure what adoptive home you’re talking about that starves their children, maybe it’s in your state and that really needs to be looked into as it’s funded by the state government.
2 likes@Damion Manuel abortion isn't killing a human, it's removing an embryo, and i literally never once remotely tried to justify Casey's heinous and completely inexcusable actions here.
15 likes@Damion Manuel it will become a human, sure. But it isn't yet. Similar to how sperm can become a human, but i don't hear you people crying over masterbatory emissions. If you had a frozen embryo in a Petri dish, and a fully living breathing baby, and you had to choose between them which would live and which would die, which would you choose? If they're really the same to you, the choice should be impossible.
18 likesAlso, i can guarantee whatever manipulative videos you've seen are not remotely accurate to what abortion actually is. Those "tiny person" removals tend to be the removal of an already passed or non viable fetus, one whose parents wanted and loved them. Also, no murdering a child will never be legal by making abortion safe and accessible, because an actual living human doesn't need to reside in the body of another human like a parasite to survive. Also Caylee was a fully realized human being with thoughts and feelings and a life ahead of her. The same cannot be said for an embryo or fetus. Casey Anthony was a selfish, evil woman for murdering a toddler. But abortion isn't murder, and really has nothing to do with this story so I'm a little confused as to why it was brought into the discussion. And if your body isn't one that can carry a pregnancy, your opinion on this isn't relevant. If it is a body that can carry a pregnancy, your opinions apply only to yourself and your body. You have no right to make that very difficult, personal, and nuanced decision for anyone else.
@Damion Manuel the difference is one is a person, and the other is hardly more developed than semen on a tissue.
6 likesShit happens
0 likes@Johnny Sins I really hope you're using those emojis ironically.
9 likes@Frederick Sinclair I beg of you to tell me if your 'that time of the month' was sarcastic. I'm pleading.
8 likes@Tim Tebow So, if you are 13 now, and correct me if I'm wrong, you joined YouTube when you were, what, 5? Yeah, seems completely true to me.
4 likes@good Sometimes the person carrying the baby has a risk of death by giving birth. I don't think adoption would solve that.
10 likes@Ganyu Kinnie Most prolifers will support abortion in those cases as a life is being chosen to be saved.
1 like@Damion Manuel the bible never speaks against abortion, and even if it did all sin is equal so maybe you should be more worried about your own judgement day
10 likesRIGHT i feel so bad for this man LMFSOOAO
1 likeAlso imagine being named Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez and you just get accused of kidnapping someone's child. I think they found a woman with that name, but luckily she was let go because she clearly had no clue who Casey Anthony is
9 likes@Tim Tebow yeah that's bullshit
1 like@Damion Manuel does it feel good to use the death of a child to fuel your political arguments? Big tough guy ehe
5 likes@Joseph Brandon They literally look up the nannies name and pulled some poor hispanic woman, and it's not speculation either it's literally stated in the video that she lied and that the nanny never fucking existed. Watch the video.
1 like@Joseph Brandon 'and looked into the nanny' like. it's quite evident you came here to defend a murderer and never watched the film or looked at the evidence.
0 likes@Johnny Sins well, yeah. there’s a huge difference between a two year old and a fetus that doesn’t even think. i would say that this incident actually supports abortions, so that awful women like casey don’t end up with a child.
5 likesno literally imagine how scary that is
0 likes@Farmer Fpv you can’t be serious.
0 likes@Farmer Fpv about what sunburn I’m white and I don’t even sunburns
1 like@Johnny Sins are you seriously weaponizing the murder of an innocent child to support your views on pro life? are you that sick in the head?
7 likes@MingZhu GAME racist?
0 likes@Libby Daniel I mean, I probably wouldnt have said anything, but for a simple reason.
2 likesI am a white guy.
If another white guy pulls race/gender into it when I dont think it belongs, I feel pretty confident in calling bullshit.
But if a black guy shows any signs of doing that, it's not really my place to say anything because its harder to relate.
Thought this exact same thing. Like... "Who tf is this bitch dragging me into her murder trial?"
0 likes@ProfShibe She does exist. Coincidentally, a real woman named Zenaida Gonzalez was found on the.other side of the country.
1 like@Farmer Fpv I understand your concern however I think your statement is ignorant,you realise as a white male you have ton of privilege?And are very unlikely to be randomly accused.Instead there are others who are more likely to be assaulted purely because of who they are.Not accused but brutally murdered and assaulted purely because they are POC or a feminine looking person or a person of the lgbtqia community and even religion.Therefore meaning their well-being is well,not good and in constant danger,please re evaluate your statement as although I understand it is very disrespectful and ignorant.
0 likes@Johnny Sins well yeah,she could have had an abortion,but your completely ignoring the circumstances,she already had a child?The child is alive?The child is three years old?Thats why people care for the child?Your point about abortion isn’t even related,right now we are talking about a living,breathing,walking child with a life and not a foetus?And to be fair I think she shouldn’t have had a child at all if she want ready.But she did,so we don’t talk about what she could have done when the child wasn’t even born but rather what she could have done as the child is alive.
4 likes@Jake J would you mind telling me your so called issues?Your statement just shows that your ignorant to all the people being murdered and assaulted purely because they are poc.I have never heard of a white person being murdered because they are white but it happens to literally every single other race.Instead of playing victim please do your research and listen to people of colour.Also by saying “blacks” you are objectifying black people and dehumanising them,rather than saying “blacks”,multiple black people have said they prefer to be referred as black people as it is not de humanising and its basic respect,you don’t refer to other white people as “whites” do you?
0 likes@Nugget your so close,so so close,white people do have it easier because they’re white,that doesn’t mean we don’t experience hardships,we can be poor as you mentioned yes,but we won’t experience the same things as poc people because they’re poc
2 likes@Lisethelizard This is a long time ago, and I have no idea what is being discussed, but sure. You experience different difficulties, of course. 100%. How would you presume to know who has it harder, if you've only really experienced your own? Are these differences really that monumental and defining of your struggles in life that you have to draw the line? We have more issues that bind us as one that we do separate.
2 likes@Nugget I am white so I can safely say as a white person I have never been pushed back and oppressed because of my race but I know from listening to other experiences people are being attacked for being poc which I wanted to highlight.But you do have a point,people are also being pushed back because of their gender and just in general their identity.There are lots of issues as you stated but we have to listen to other people with those experiences and push their voices.Your right that all people experience their own struggles and we don’t know what a person has experienced but we are not being oppressed because we are white and I just wanted to emphasis that white people have privilege and can never understand the struggle other people go through becuse of their race or like sexual orientation and so we need to be open minded and not pretend that these issues don’t exist.I’m sorry I think I accidentally went of track,so tell me if I did and need to re explain.
1 like@Farmer Fpv Well, looking at these replies to your comment it seems like you're right to worry lmfao
0 likesFarmer Fpv huh..
0 likesit’s comical how naive the jury was. the jury was a complete joke.
0 likesjeff hopkins went to highschool with her they were friends
0 likes@Farmer Fpv WEAK
1 like@Zakc Odom and sexist
0 likes@Frederick Sinclair yikes you really be a terrible human
1 like@Johnny Sins actually PLSSSSSS provide that information where it says “54% of abortions are done in the third trimester”
3 likesAccording to the WHO 3/4 of all abortions are in the FIRST TRIMESTER. So I guess ur number at the very least is off by 500%
My question is how did she know about Jeff? I know she's a pathological liar and kid killer. But the people in her made up story are actually real. How did she know of their existence
0 likesI'd be floored!
0 likes@Farmer Fpv Awww poor you. :(
2 likesLMAOOOOO
0 likes@Farmer Fpv literally made no sense lmao
1 like@Farmer Fpv HUH???
0 likesSomething Trump would say...
0 likes@Johnny Sins a 2 weeks fetus isnt a 3 years old child, you doofos, that's why no one is bringing in abortion, cause they're literally two separate thing that a sane person can separate.
5 likes@tildeissobieberlike ah wait you're a troll, makes sense
1 like@Jay Remí "infanticide legalized" LMAO YOU'RE DELUSIONAL. If you educated yourself about the NY and VA bill you'd see that abortion before birth ONLY allowed when the mother's life is at risk. But of course y'all dont bother knowing what you're talking about lmao.
4 likes@Bri how ya know baby’s don’t feel pain? You don’t know!
0 likes@Josh 4 you need help
0 likes@Elizabeth Baker why
0 likes@Josh 4 as a person of color, I feel fear for you because you really dont know how other poc really feel behind your back.
0 likes@Vince Nav why
0 likes@Vince Nav She does tho. Theres a woman irl named Zenaida Gonzalez. She wasnt mentioned in the video because Casey made her name up, but the woman does exist.
2 likes@Vince Nav Pretty sure the police even talked to her but the whole time it was procedural and they knew she wasnt involved. She was still dragged into it tho, nonetheless
1 like@Some Random Asshole oh shit. But does she also have the 2 last names like she mentioned? If so, that's crazy.
0 likes@Vince Nav Nah, I think the real life woman's name was just Zenaida Gonzalez. No Fernandez
2 likes@Vince Nav "Orlando Police Department. Yeah, some woman from halfway across the country that youve never met, she just claimed that you were the last person to see her missing daughter."
2 likes@Vince Nav we weren’t talking about racism. we were talking about how being white doesn’t affect this example in this video. i know racism happens to both white and black people in america
0 likes@Josh 4 are you sure because how I understand from his comment, that's what he seems to be implying. What else could he be afraid of as a white?
0 likes@Vince Nav how could a white woman who only brought Jeff into the case because she knew him once be an act of racism? race was never a part of this and then that person said that “as a white male i am scared of my well-being in the united states.” it rubbed me the wrong way. white people may have different problems from say, black people and the other way around, but i disagreed with his statement
1 like@Josh 4 how I saw it, I just thought he was just bringing in another topic irrelevant to what OP is saying lol. That's where my misunderstanding came from cus I alwags see people bringing that topic up when it has nothing to do with the original topic.
0 likes@Farmer Fpv you really like “anyone got some spare oppression”
2 likes@Farmer Fpv HUH
0 likesThat part,,,,,,crazzzzzzzzzzy!
0 likes@Ethan Taubel because he is a character who i like, why you getting mad over a fictional character?
1 like@Josh 4 bruh calm down it's a joke
0 likes@Lisethelizard And being non-white I can say that the racial majority in a country, white, in this case, has the unique privilege of being the only race capable of racism and being punished, financially, psychologically and physically, without due process. Of course, one can also argue that this is less common or less severe than non-whites who suffer from violence, ostracization and the lack of accumulated wealth due to historical reasons. Whites are being oppressed for being white in that they can not voice any opinions on minority issues other than in support, even at a detriment to themselves out of fear of this repercussion, and non-whites are being oppressed for being non-white by being placed on the back-foot when it comes to social, economic standing, as well as racial injustice, violent or otherwise. I would then argue that playing the racial victim card to silence a white person by dismissing his concerns and life experiences not only plays into this oppression of white people, but also dismisses all non-racial hardships in their life. This does absolutely nothing to gain their empathy in fighting injustice, but serves to make an enemy out of them by drawing the line in the sand: This is you, this is us. Instead of looking at each other and seeing color, look at each other and see a person. If you faced an issue along racial lines, blame the person who did it, not his race.
1 like@Nugget Tell me you hate yourself without telling me you hate yourself.
2 likes@ArmyTrashhh this person rly just said what about one race🥺the human race🥺
2 likes@Farmer Fpv as a Japanese person who is right handed (I also really like green tea) and likes to paint, I don’t safe feel in the USA rn :(
0 likesDid I also mention I like salmon as well?
@Farmer Fpv what
0 likes@Jake J try to an hero then.
0 likes@Zakc Odom I get what you talking but those emojis hella cringe 🗿♿️🗿👈🏿👈🏿☠️⚫️🙅🏿♂️🗿
0 likes@Joseph Brandon Lol tru
0 likesimagine being named jeff 🤕
0 likesZellchie beautiful
0 likes@Farmer Fpv youre hilarious😭 if anything, you shouldnt be LMAO
0 likes@Johnny Sins bottom line is casey is an unfit mother. she knew from the start she did not want caylee. she should have aborted or let her parents adopt caylee.
6 likesbut it obviously didn’t work out that way, so we are angry that this child had to live almost three years of her life with a sorry excuse for a mother who made her entire life a living hell rather than adopting her out or terminating the pregnancy the minute she knew she didn’t want caylee, which i presume was early on.
@Farmer Fpv Please leave.
2 likes@Johnny Sins Even many pro-lifers would immediately notice how ridiculous it is to compare an abortion to the killing of a 3 year old. Whether you personally agree with abortion or not, it is clearly illogical to say it is equivalent to murdering a 3 year old. Even if you disagree with abortion to the extent that you think it's murder you know that comparison is beyond ridiculous with a moment's thought.
3 likesShe is literally pulling a kayzer zozer !! Lie till you burn their ears off, lie, lie, lie, tell stories never leading to anywhere. And she got away with it!!!
1 like@Farmer Fpv That's some great bait, m8.
1 like@Johnny Sins ... that doesn't make any sense my guy
3 likes@Farmer Fpv r/FragileWhiteRedditor
2 likes@Farmer Fpv lol what
2 likesOh shit didnt think of that
0 likes@Farmer Fpv sounds like someone wants to be oppressed lmao
1 likeHorrific.
0 likes@Joseph Brandon are you for real?
0 likes@Johnny Sins do you have any sources for 54% of abortions being done in the third trimester? As far as I can see from official numbers, only 1.4% are late term abortions in the US, which is defined as late second trimester (21 weeks) or later.
5 likesand then the jury letting her go free.....
0 likesFOR REAL BRUH!!!
0 likes@Farmer Fpv what...
0 likes@Farmer Fpv as an asian female, you shouldn’t
2 likes@Josh 4 I believe the term you're looking for is white privilege. being that white people are afforded certain privileges based on race. this however doesn't mean they can't suffer or be discriminated against
1 like@MingZhu GAME 😂
0 likes@Johnny Sins and you should give some citations cause your statistics are wrong. You prob got it from some incel Reddit post. Cite a MEDICAL report of those stats … I’ll wait. Cause I know those stats are so far off
2 likes@Jay Remí you can thank your local politics and leftists for that
0 likes@good do you have any idea how awful most people that take in fosters are ? Even if you get lucky and adopted by a good family … that feeling of one day knowing you weren’t with your real family causes all kinds of psychological problems
1 like@Farmer Fpv gross. I'm embarrassed for you.
1 likelmao 🤣
0 likes@Lrod Shrek its fun to troll these woke revolutionaries.
0 likes@Nabs 2099 Absolutely nothing, but you're super triggered over nothing. 😂🤣
0 likesLocated all the SJW's 😂
0 likes@Yokho Sarricolea want a 🍪 for your opinion? 😂
0 likes@Farmer Fpv whatever, just make sure you graduate highschool
2 likesWhen the dude asked him if he even had any kids after asking about all the babysitter specifics i geeked tf out
0 likes@Johnny Sins i’m not even gonna touch that comment….
1 like@Zakc Odom I don't know what he was talking about either but you can't honestly be calling him a racist just for stating a fact
0 likes@Jessica Rich she very well could have been charged with attempts to delay and resists officers or for perjury but she served more time in jail waiting on her trial that what the time she’d be sentenced would be so would have gotten time served anyways ..I never heard her getting charged with anything like that but she def should have so at least it would have been on her record…but guilty or not her life will forever be impacted and people are going to still look at her guilty and treat her that way because of all the publicity this case got so at least there’s a little bit of justice in that of nothing else but def not enough …idk how she didn’t even get a child neglect charge for her not calling the cops earlier
0 likesNot sure if it's true or not but I heard forensic investigators said that she really didn't do it idk if I believe it but yea
0 likes@Erin Hawes If you think a fetus does not feel pain when he/she is chopped up and sucked out of the womb, you need to do a wee bit more research.
0 likes@Johnny Sins the child was born and neglected which led to death.. it would’ve been more humane to have an abortion or even put up for adoption since she was so clearly not fit to be a parent.
2 likes@Synthia McBride A human fetus does not have the capacity to experience pain until after viability. Maybe you need to do “a wee bit more research”
3 likesImagine being her dad, George!
1 likelol obvious troll
0 likes@Millinois The point is that a guy tried saying "I feel so scared as a white guy", when Zenaida Gonzalez, an actual hispanic woman (look her up), got dragged into it too.
2 likesMy point is, its not about race or gender, as was framed by somebody else. Its just about ppl with unfortunate names being dragged into something they had nothing to do with
@Farmer Fpv boohoo poor baby is scared :(
1 like@Farmer Fpv : looks like your joke went over people's head 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
0 likesWhat do you mean they never met!? He said they were Acquaintances
0 likesLmaoooo ikrr
0 likes@Johnny Sins oh you're one of those
1 like@Kaya Katamen 👏👏
0 likes@Johnny Sins cuz the child was already born... how can u abort something thats not even in the uterus...?
2 likes@Johnny Sins child what
1 likeright imagine getting called, dude was probably like i dont even remember this woman
0 likes@Farmer Fpv ur white
0 likes@Al Bundy
1 likeJury system is way past its use-by date. Get rid of it. People are too dumb and they are NOT random after the lawyers and judges have their say.
@Johnny Sins
1 likeToo-young Casey really didn’t know what it would be like to have a child, to have to care for it 24 hours a day, pretty much give up one’s freedoms at the age 19-22…..until reality struck after the birth. Then the rot set in.
@Farmer Fpv tf???
0 likes@Gabriel W Idk man, the amount of people that responded to him is a lot sadder. For real imagine getting baited so hard…
0 likesImagine being Zanny the nanny
0 likes@Dave Nutter who was the baby’s father.
1 like@Erin Hawes I would have, and her parents would have glad to babysit
0 likes@B my Valentine who knows for sure, but out of all the names that were put forward I would say that Michael Duggan makes the most sense to me. Two things I DO know for sure are 1) that it's not me, and 2) If you ever date Casey, never under any circumstances get into a car.
0 likes@Johnny Sins dude, why don’t you prove your loyalty to the cause adopting some incest, crack babies. I have a friend who was born addicted, pimped by he mom, then impregnated twice by her uncle. Then, both kid were put into foster care system. So, I say adopt
1 like@Dee👍
0 likes@B my Valentine that’s really unfortunate but let’s not forget this is extremely rare and the number of abortions in one month are greater than the amount of all murders committed by “pro-lifers”.
0 likes@Bri what about the child's father'? Where was he during all this crap.? Oh wait...she probably doesn't even know who he is.
1 like@Farmer Fpv facts
0 likes@Farmer Fpv As a white male, what the hell are you even talking about
1 like@Johnny Sins Yeah, better the baby never exist than die cruelly after living for only a little
1 like@Johnny Sins um…. Because she was a living child who got murdered at 3 years old and not a zygote? Because we were focused on the fact that this woman should be held accountable for murdering her toddler? Jesus Christ, give me a fucking break. Also, “pro choice” isn’t about DEMANDING that people have abortions, it’s about CHOICE. The ability to make the CHOICE to give birth or abort. This includes making resources available to women who WOULD want to keep it otherwise so that they don’t have to feel like abortion is their only option.
1 like@Johnny Sins where are you getting that statistic, mr genius man johnny sims
1 like@Tim Tebow can you link a news article about your attack? I live in Portland and think I would have heard about a 12 year old being beaten almost to death just for being white...
0 likesshe's a nut job, and devious for sure, but not very smart. How could she not have known everything she said would be checked out?
0 likesAt least he actually existed and sort of knew her. Imagine being a woman named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez who never even met Casey and who Casey didn't even know actually existed
0 likes@Jessica Rich yes. Even if her defense was true and Caylee drowned in a pool, shouldn't she at least been charged with child neglect or something?
0 likes@Zakc Odom lmao what
0 likes@Nabs 2099 not true, I get sunburned because I'm white, lol
0 likes@Johnny Sins this is kindergarten version of a bad faith argument. i know that simple little rebuttals like this give you the illusion of "gotcha" but they just make you look silly. surely you understand that, right? the premise is "if a pregnant woman knows she does not want to be a mother, she should choose another option, be it adoption or abortion" this is a pro-choice response to the question. what your straw man argument does is replace the actual position "a woman's own decision on how to respond to a pregnancy" with your fallacious "straw man" being that pro-choice advocates "think babies should be aborted." No one PROMOTES abortion. Women who've had an abortion don't talk glowingly about how great of a time it was and how they can't WAIT to do it again. It's traumatic and sad, frequently done alone both physically and emotionally. It's not something that is taken lightly and is STRICTLY between a woman, her doctor, and anyone SHE wants to be part of it. and you, Johnny, should politely stfu and mind your own business.
1 like@Johnny Sins no, actually, they're mosly illegal. which you'd know if you weren't totally dense
0 likes@Johnny Sins please enlighten me on how you can have an abortion when the child has already been born for 3 years
1 like@Farmer Fpv how is no one understanding that this is sarcasm lmfaooo
0 likes@Farmer Fpv 😂😂😂😂
0 likes@Al Bundy Ginzo Abe Japan's ex Prime Minister
0 likes@Tyler dude frrrr
0 likes@Allison Saul lmfaooooooo
0 likesand the jury still picked not guilty smh
0 likesbruh💀💀
0 likes@Bri how do you know what a fetus can feel/can't feel?
0 likesI feel like this is a bit of an inappropriate time to be using an emoji of a skull when someone was murdered.
0 likes@LoganStudios It's amazing how humans can have skulls dead or alive!
0 likes@Zakc Odom I am racist
0 likes@Johnny Sins If abortions stop me from having to read comments like yours; let’s get to skull-crushing!
0 likesPress f for Jeff
0 likes@Bri preach sister!!
0 likes@Josh 4 i'm at the personal agreement that life is hard for everyone...not every white person has it "easy".
0 likes@good yes i'm certain all rapists always wrap before committing assault/rape 🙄
0 likes@SayoSweeti ? What are you replying to. There’s no way I’m scrolling down 375 comments 🤣. Also I’m kind of ok with abortion if the woman is raped
0 likes@Zakc Odom Exactly. If you are white, and you talk about white people (or any other) ; you have to be a racist. If you are any other and talk about whites; it is not racist. I can't see how he did not know that. Jeebus. I think we should report him to authorities.
0 likes@Johnny Sins shut up. This case was 2008
0 likes@dzta Hydro exactly they don’t even know the meaning of being racist versus prejudice/ discrimination
0 likesIt just goes to say how much she is sick making up these crazy stories, as if they can't be checked up
0 likesI’m assuming as how all the names she shared were not real people, that Jeff was a made up lie and story that just happened to be true
0 likesWtf 💀
0 likes@Proud Progressivx i’ve seen some of your other comments, all you say is sarcasm followed up with mentioning reddit somehow
0 likes@Farmer Fpv cringe
0 likes@Josh 4 You really should
0 likesMaybe she liked him and wanted to him to be involved in this however possible. Poor Jeff
0 likes@Johnny Sins Maybe its because the kid feels pain and emotion? My first thought was if she killed the kid she should've aborted it before the poor thing feels pain and emotion.
0 likes@Johnny Sins If it can't feel pain or emotion isn't that better than killing the damn thing when it can?
0 likes@Bri I’m generally pro choice but I also think women (and their partners) can VERY easily protect themselves during sex. People speak as if the pill or condoms don’t exist just because they’ve gotta either go out of their way to get them or they diminish the pleasure of sex.
0 likes@Farmer Fpvgood one
0 likesI can't imagine that. That's wild, man. That one coworker you see now and then but really don't interact with. Then all of a sudden you have to testify at their murder trial. WTF.
1 likePretty wild!
0 likesAnd zanaida Fernandez too
@Farmer Fpv I can't tell if you read the situation of this comment wrong or if you just wanted to provoke some random people online.
0 likes@Johnny Sins sources?
0 likes@Erin Hawes i agree but there is always adoption.
0 likes@Bri adoption is a choice
1 like@Farmer Fpv I don't thin people understand the premise behind your worries - sounds like they did not pay attention to Brett Kavanaugh's trial and the boatload of other "Me Too" cases that have sprung up over the past years. I'm right there with you since I have already had my short-lived fair share of women dragging us through mud.
1 like@Johnny Sins what..? Are you talking about?? Where did abortion come into this?
0 likes@Johnny Sins Lmaoooo they proved you wrong so instead of making actual points you resorted to calling them "delusional". Typical :)
0 likes@Johnny Sins lmao sure hun ❤️
0 likes@Johnny Sins Lmaoooo "this long" just points out how horrendously awful your attention span is :) you have till now given absolutely no points after the person proved you wrong than just an excessive amount of annoying emojis (something to expect from someone whose username is literally "Johnny Sins" & I'm still waiting ⌚
0 likes@Farmer Fpv don’t worry, you’ll be fine.
0 likes@Johnny Sins weird how you want to turn this into a discussion about your political views. If you’re wondering why people tend to think pro “life” people are crazy… this is why.
0 likes@Tim Tebow in Portland? Did everybody clap afterwards, too?
0 likes@Farmer Fpv you never been Mexican we get hate from the black community and white community it’s honestly sad we all love the homies personality over anything bro
0 likes@Gabriel W Hey there wonder boy.
0 likes@tildeissobieberlike let me ask you this, if you're so pro choice do you think everyone should have the ability to make their own medical choices?
0 likes@Farmer Fpv as a white male I don't
0 likesHe said they were acquaintances tho, so he knew her
0 likesI think what farmer fpv said was satire but hey, I might be wrong
0 likes@Allison Saul lmao true, poor Zenaide Gonzalez too that woman was dragged into this too 😭
0 likes@Johnny Sins maybe bc the baby is actually alive??
0 likesHelp its been a year and people are still actively debating about this
1 like😭😭😭
0 likeslmfao
0 likes@Erin Hawes damn that shut him up real fast lol
0 likes@R.m lol yeah, he really thought he did something with that comment 🙄
0 likespoor jeff
0 likes@Jay Remí A year later and now I think those rights are more in danger than ever :(
0 likesA real bummer.
@STRONGEST NATTY IN THE WORLD. ur somehow trying to make this murder trial about abortion? Cringe.
0 likes@Bri: Q: Why not carry full term then place for adoption by loving parents? A: Abortionists are cruel and selfish.
1 like@Allison Saul what about her?
0 likes@Farmer Fpv fuck everyone else, I feel you dude.
0 likesSounds like a story he’d tell at a bar to a stranger decades from now.
0 likesThere was also a real Zenaida Gonzales who had nothing to do with Caylee or Casey, but received so much abuse that she had to file a defamation lawsuit.
0 likes@S A 6694 clearly a bot.
0 likes@Farmer Fpv as a black male I worry about being arrested
0 likesWhat’s worse is knowing this information and the jury still decided Casey was innocent
0 likesthey did know each other. they just never had a relationship.
0 likesi cannot believe she was not found guilty
0 likes@Farmer Fpv As a person living in the US, I fear for my well being
0 likes@Al Bundy liar?
0 likes@STRONGEST NATTY IN THE WORLD. they care for the child because it died as a sentient, pain feeling 3 year old not an fetus without a fucking consciousness.
0 likesI would say I did know her make a bunch of shit up and make millions on a bookdeal
0 likesStrange woman
0 likes@STRONGEST NATTY IN THE WORLD. I was bringing Casey Anthony up to a friend of mine and his first comment was why didn't she get an abortion if she was going to kill her kid. People absolutely thought this. Your comment is ignorant
0 likes@Lrod Shrek I love good trolling
0 likesF black
0 likesMy cousin murdered his dad (my uncle). He's currently serving life in prison in Louisiana's Angola prison. He's my own blood and I never once wanted him to get away with it. I couldn't imagine how it would feel if he had gotten away with it.
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From what I have heard Angola Prison is just as bad as the Mississippi State Prison AKA Parchman Farm.
0 likesi’m so genuinely sorry that that happened to you. i hope you’re doing better
2 likesOut of all my life experiences, I have never, ever felt so angry as to when I heard the not guilty verdict. It still hurts me profoundly.
60 likesThe jurors gave a murdering egotist the feeling that she's on top of the world. Way to go.
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also the reason not everyone should be able to vote. the average person is beyond help. damn near room temperature IQ
5 likesIt’s “innocent until proven guilty.” You can only convict someone if there’s “beyond a reasonable doubt.” That’s the legal system. One we should all be thankful for.
2 likesI believe Casey did it, however, with that said, I also believe the jury performed their obligation. It’s okay to be upset with the reality that you believe someone who is guilty is walking free, but don’t be mad at a jury for correctly following their civil duty by not finding someone guilty, when they believe there was “reasonable doubt.”
@Crystal Skulls Based on the evidence stacked against her, the constant web of lies, what was the reasonable doubt?
10 likes@Rob Oc The story that the defense came up with regarding her dad being an accomplice, for the “drowning accident.”
4 likesThat and the fact that no one has been able to determine when she died and for sure how she died. Just theories.
Haven’t determined if it was intentional or accidental. (At the time, the internet search results WERE NOT discovered. Only after the case was it.)
The only people to truly blame is the prosecution- NOT the jury. It’s the prosecutors job to make sure they have a slam dunk, no doubts about it case when going for a Murder in the 1st Degree charge.
If it wasn’t a total slam dunk, which it wasn’t unfortunately, they should have gone for something more lax like child neglect, accidental death, manslaughter, etc.
@Crystal Skulls If I was on that jury, we'd still be deliberating to this day. Too many lies and coercion. A innocent mother wouldn't carry on like that
8 likesThe manslaughter charges were also thrown out
@Rob Oc I agree, but “an innocent mother wouldn’t behave like x, y, and z” isn’t evidence.
2 likesThe jury performed their civil duty correctly. The followed their responsibility correctly, and came back with a verdict that followed the law. Not their feelings/assumptions/beliefs of what happened.
@Crystal Skulls 🤢🤢
4 likes@yoda’s ears I trust that you with your 15 doctoral degrees can vote responsibly for the rest of us.
2 likes@Crystal Skulls that is dumb so what do they need to convict a person a video while she is killing her kid? that never happens, there was more then enough proof she was guilty. the kid is dead doesn't matter how she died, she sure did not drown in a pool! there is no reason to put duct tape on a child even less on a dead child that drowned in a pool
0 likes@G R There is no proof that it was Caylee in the car. They’re only guessing by saying it smells like death. They couldn’t confirm it was her DNA. Plus, it would take more than just DNA, as it would make sense for them to find DNA, such as a hair follicle, anywhere in the car.
0 likesHOW she died matters in that then it can be determined what charge to pursue- 1st degree, second degree, manslaughter, etc. If we can’t even determine how she died, then it’s impossible to determine what charge to go for.
Once again, I believe Casey is guilty. However, the prosecutors are at fault for not presenting a solid enough case, beyond reasonable doubt, that Casey killed Caylee in 1st degree- as in not an accident, she planned it, and executed said plan. The prosecutors couldn’t prove it.
Therefore, the jury did their job.
@G R When she died matters because it’s then easier to determine how she died (if the story of the drowning holds up or not. If Casey would have been alone with her at time of death or if her grandpa would have been.)
0 likes@G R None of us need to like the verdict. However, we DO need to all appreciate due process and a jury that doesn’t convict based on what they think, but instead what they KNOW beyond a reasonable doubt.
0 likes@G R How she died absolutely matters. Its how the prosecution is to determine what charge to seek. There is 1st Degree Murder, 2nd Degree Murder, Manslaughter, Accidental Death, Child Neglect, etc.
0 likesIn order to persue said charge, it requires proving HOW someone died.
@G R You are being emotional, and therefore, illogical. I understand being emotional about this case, but in terms of the legal system, what matters are facts. Not emotions. America has this thing called "due process", which is a great and necessary thing, in order to prevent people from being wrongly imprisoned.
0 likes@Greg Mumbai where did this speculation come from? lmao
0 likesAfter she killed Caylee she kept it quiet and thought she’d make the most of it partying before she inevitably got caught. I don’t think she even considered she’d get away with it and just pretty much made up her poor alibi as she went along. It’s absolutely disgusting she wasn’t convicted. Disgusting. There needs to be something put in place for when verdicts are clearly wrong. The fact she was a young, fairly pretty, charismatic/manipulative killer resulted in the most perplexing verdict you’ll ever come across. She lied, constantly, and the fact she killed her daughter and walked away from that trial as a free woman is sickening.
54 likeshearing her friend cry over if caylee was hurt and she just responds with "calling you guys. . . waste of time" stunned me. truly painful to have everyone but her own mother care for this poor child
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I was wondering if anyone was gonna say anything about that
112 likesYeah. I bet that friend would have adopted Caylee if the murderer the murderer told her what she was planning.
87 likesi was so confused as to why the best friend was taking it so personally though? i thought they kind of asked her to start crying on purpose to see if it’d get anything out of her and it didn’t work :/
7 likes@Iris Cooper You don't think one of her best friends wouldn't have been around Caylee a lot and gotten to know and love her and would be affected by anything happening to her?
212 likes@Big Ups right? what the hell is iris talking about
89 likes@Iris Cooper I think it’s basic human empathy to cry over a 2 year old being missing, especially if it’s someone you actually know. Maybe she has nieces or nephews in her own life that are very near and dear to her so it hit home besides just the fact that she was Casey’s best friend
121 likes@jumpinjohnnyruss Casey should have just given Caylee to the friend, a family member, or put her up for adoption if she was that unhappy being a mother. Some people just aren't meant to be parents and there's nothing wrong with that. Taking the child's life to rid yourself of the child is despicable though.
42 likes@Iris Cooper nothing to be confused about. A child is missing anyone would be concerned and emotional.
43 likes@Iris Cooper Agreed seemed like an overreaction
2 likesHer friend was probably playing it up and, as her friend, Casey could tell.
2 likesThe friend and brother knew she did it
6 likes@Wilhelm Hagberg just comment "i am a human that has yet to learn empathy" instead
34 likes@Wilhelm Hagberg overreaction? My best friend has a child that's not even one yet and I would give my life for that baby in a heartbeat. If I were in that girl's position, I would be doing everything I could to find that child and make sure she's safe. I'm genuinely curious how you think that's an overreaction
8 likes@Brkn Cubeik to be fair, concern about the child I understand. Saying will die for the kid I dont understand
1 likeWho does she think she is?
@HawtDawg I'd say lied poorly about killing someone and exaggerated your empathy to a dramatic level is equally cringe.
1 likehave you ever thought by doing this where did she put the grandparents at? The brother and them were trying to keep calm and be collective, yet the friend was hysterical when she sould be one of the last people to breakdown there, she taking the call truly was a waste
@HawtDawg what I think is you can't read, I said poorly lie and dramatically react are equally cringe, just happened that in this case involved a murder of a child does not take away how out of place/position the friend's reaction was at the time.
1 likeand please stop trying to accuse people are like another criminal just because you can't reason without weighing in emotions
@HawtDawg yeah you can grammar police me whatever but you still linking this to emotions, which blinds you no matter how overwhelmed she was, she was not in the position to be hysterical and can claim to die. I bet the family was exhausted yet had to spend energy on a even bigger cry baby just because she can be one? Had she thought Should she be one?
0 likesWe all KNOW she wouldn't die for this event, she was just overwhelmed, that is understandable.
But claiming can die for some else's tragedies, like putting her family and her everything aside? There is a place for this kind of drama but it's definitely not in front at the closer family when they suffered more. Therefore the question, Who Does She Think She Is?
If she indeed died, that's even a bigger problem, she makes the burden heavier than it needs to be, that she doesn't think of anyone but herself to this tragedy, so again, Who Does She Think She Is?
I did not say the mother was not horrible, in fact everyone agrees shes horrible hence discussing how horrible she/incident was, is not even worth mentioning here. What I said was the friend's not the main character here so how about be less of a burden that take away part of the attention when the family has more important problems to deal with
I was literally saying that :(( and the fact that Christina knew nothing of what the mother did 😢😢
0 likesyeah, so sad honestly :(( poor baby
0 likesThe amount of sociopaths in this thread tho that are baffled by being emotional over the child of your best friend being missing under suspicious circumstances.
0 likes@NM L For heaven's sake I dont think she was being literal about it. Saying "I'll die if [×] happens" is a common thing to do when something like this type of tragedy occurs. It's not being self centered, she's not claiming she will actually die for the kid, she's just expressing worry in a common way. That's it.
0 likesI'm sure that if Casey had made even a small effort in easing their worries at all, instead of at best being unempathetic and snappy, to being openly aggressive at worst, then both her friend and her family could have been less worried and emotional. Instead Casey sees her worried parents and her crying friend and can only muster contempt.
The burden here isn't the friend being worried and reacting emotionally to a child close to her being missing. People who have open emotions are not burdens. The only one burdening the family is Casey herself, acting like an utterly disgraceful human being to all those who show concern her daughter.
@MR NOBODY you are giving me stand points for MY arguments, not yours.
0 likesI was not saying she was/wasn't being literal, I was saying WHETHER she was/wasnt being literal, that sentence should not have came from her mouth, no situation gives her that moment, even if she takes it dead seriously.
Of course Cassy was the ultimate burden, that is fact. Exactly my point, why the friend gave EXTRA burden by being a cry baby instead of being useful.
Aal of these I had said before. You don't seem to understand what I was saying and made me repeat.
Where is your point exactly?
@Iris Cooper I would take it personally too, even mpre if it was my best friend
0 likesI'm absolutely disgusted that she got away with murder with evidence that showed WITHOUT A DOUBT that she was being totally deceptive, trying to hide that fact that she had 'something' to do with her daughters disappearance and ultimate demise. Sickening!
45 likesThese detectives let their emotions get the best of them in the first interview. When dealing with a narcissist like Casey, there are many interrogation techniques they could've utilized. Instead they blew up on her which is the quickest way for suspects to shut down. I understand their anger completely but I hope they took this as a lesson. It is the natural reaction to be angry but the detective reacted as a civilian with no interrogation technique training would react instead of behaving like a detective manipulating information out of a suspect.
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My thoughts exactly. Not a great move
3 likesi think they're playing good cop/bad cop. 1 of them is confrontational. the other is trying to relate with "i'm a parent too."
0 likesAn innocent sweet little child was suffocated by the one person that she trusted and loved the most in her little life. Casey gets to walk the rest of her days with this on her non existent conscious?!? This is one the biggest fail’s in our justice system as far as I’m concerned. I pray that karma catches up with her someday…
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How do you know she was suffocated? (Probably was)
0 likesWatching this made me realize that kids don't get the justice they need when something like this happens and if you are a "sweet and innocent" woman that you have nothing to worry about
42 likesThat little girl was failed by everyone and I hope they hate themselves for allowing that woman to legitimately get away with murder
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in the laws and constitutions of many countrys, there are 2 pharagrafs regarding the protecion of children if you are lucky, or if you live in Chile like i do there are two lines...
0 likes@Lexi Kitten
0 likesMany people dont get justice. Innocents get sent to jail because they dont have the money to buy a good lawyer.
Murderers walk free because they do.
That means the government attorneys didn’t do proper cross
1 likePoor Jeffrey. Imagine getting dragged into a homicide case because someone who worked at the same place as you years ago remembered your name?
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My exact thoughts. Kinda feel bad for Universal Studios too getting their named dragged through the mud. I imagine if I worked there at the time I wouldn't feel too good about myself, even though I had nothing to do with it.
132 likesEven worst, they didn't even worked at the same time, they just knew each other. Some people are evil and just get away with it
71 likes@Sniff Back Better yes!!!! Exactly what I thought! Her parents baby her and try to make her feel like everything is going to be ok when in reality they know damn well their daughter had secrets beyond hell
32 likes@Sniff Back Better the fact her dad calls her “gorgeous” as a grown adult, and her first reaction is to say “I look awful”. Is super weird.
26 likes@Horacio Spinelli 100%
2 likes@TOPSPOT
3 likes>Universal Studios
>Reputable Name
lmao, pick one
@Jefferson Ott I don't think the "I look awful" is a weird reaction. I actually thought that was the most normal part of their conversation.
16 likes@Sunbin Seo well, for a friend, or boyfriend, or girlfriend, super normal. For her dad to call his daughter “Gorgeous” is Kidd, (especially considering the accusations that would come later). And the daughter to care what the father thinks of how she looks, also weird to me. Reading your post… I can understand that perspective. I was just basing it on the accusations to come.
2 likes@Funtcase tuckfard I think they were trying to get a confession out of her
2 likesDude got a whole kid named Zach in the deal too. Congrats to him.
3 likesEven worse, imagine getting murdered by your mother! Yeah, poor Jeffrey, I can't imagine how life is so hard when somebody wants to talk to you about something that's not your fault, he must be a fucking mess!..
0 likes@Eatt Itt You can feel bad for more than one person… how do you not understand that?
11 likes@Jacques CA I do understand it... In fact, I feel sorry for more than one person as we speak, but I don't really see why I would feel sorry for anyone who didn't do anything wrong and is just questioned about a crazy person saying his name... I was in that situation and it was almost fun, I knew I didn't do anything wrong and I helped in the investigation, nobody should have felt sorry for me, that's all I'm sayin, sorry for rude tone, didn't mean to sound like an ass xS
2 likes@Kate Gagi lol i laugh in respectful manner....poor guy.
3 likes@Jefferson Ott to me it sounded like her mother and father went in to talk to casey in an attempt to get more information out of her. They were faking their smiles and pretending to be happy to see her to try to get her guard down that's why her mom said that thing about "the whole country is looking for Caylee are they going to find her do you think?"
0 likesCwubs is twump
0 likes@Jefferson Ott becawse yew luve tew socke aye beeg peanus
0 likesFrom Chris Watts case, interrogaters got him to confess by pointing out if he didnt kill his family, why didnt he call the ambulance after he found them not breathing. Instead he decided to bury their bodies without telling anyone which just didnt make sense if he was innocent. Police/prosecution should have used this same argument for Casey and her daughter. She never called ambulance when she found daughter not breathing but instead hid daughters body in car and eventually buried her. Casey couldnt be more guilty. Very shameful.
20 likesNo evidence is even needed to see she was guilty. NO REAL MOTHER who lost their child would react that way.
3 likesShocking still. All these years later. I watched this trial at the time. Devastating that she got away with killing her own daughter.
2 likesI would have been intrigued with her reaction if they said “we’ve found your daughter and she’s fine” in the middle of her “disappearance”
17 likesIt took casey 31 days to speak to the police about her missing child, but only 30 seconds for her to call 911 when someone threw a drink in her face
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What’s more is that, she didn’t even call the police. It was her mother who had called.
236 likes@Algae that part
22 likesLMAO
2 likes@Algae She was trying to keep the crime she committed a secret. 😔
34 likesThat story is the reason I'm rewatching this case.
9 likesrumor has it she's in favor of defunding the police...
5 likesShe never called 911 at all and she knew exactly where her daughter was, because she threw her away like trash.
19 likes@David Campanella defunding the police doesn't mean "pull funding", it's about reappropriating funding to more social workers and health care workers instead of treating everyone exactly the same way way - and with the same people - as domestic abusers, for instance. it's abt taking pressure OFF the police, who have to respond to EVERYTHING rn, even when arresting people won't help the community.
14 likes@Mcky McObvious the police don't have to respond to everything, they choose to...when they say they have to respond to a call to service, its not true...I've called the police to report illegal activity by police officers, government officials, and certain businesses and they said "we don't send an officer for that" even when its illegal, but people stand on public streets filming buildings legally or legally open carry a firearm and there are always several police officers ready and able to show up to the scene even though no law is being broken...reappropriating funds is a long term project that doesn't deal with the short term. A shorter term but still long term solution is to change the culture of calling the police and to stop doing it unless someone is in immediate and grave physical danger. The police officers do not want to have to respond to these calls, but the culture of policing allows them to get more funding based on more police calls and they have all the discretion on whether or not they deal with the calls. In some cities they don't even show up for shit, thats been going on for a long time.
3 likes@Mary Campbell According to justice she didn't commit any crime.
1 like2:50 I don’t have anything to talk about
0 likes@Novkorova Actually she was convicted of lying to the police so she does have a criminal record.
5 likes@David Campanella yeah I disagree ,so why not do BOTH? if it's at least halfway possible
2 likes@David Campanella homie you should want to as well considering they let this case slip right through their fingers. This only shows how useless they can be when justice goes unserved… we already dump millions of millions of dollars into our police force, and for what? Seriously, for what?
2 likesKaren
0 likes@Young Squad how did the police let this case “slip through their fingers”? She was arrested and charged. The prosecutor failed to convict her. That has nothing to do with the police.
0 likesDefunding the police and hiring more social workers is not a long term answer. You’re just hiring more people who are dependent on criminals. More poverty pimping isn’t a solution. This is a tragic, unique and bizarre case that shouldn’t be used to promote political agendas.
0 likes@BeLoW_aBoVe I mean are they not the ones who investigated this crime? Did she not lead police to an empty lot and say “oops looks like I lied”? Did the police not interrogate her, and decide that maybe they should flirt with her rather than actually do their job? Lastly, where were the police when kaylee was being murdered? To serve an protect? Sure maybe after the fact, but even then the saying makes no sense.
1 like@Mcky McObvious When one hears the term "defund the police" it sounds a lot like "dont fund a police department." If it means something else then a better term must be used.
0 likesHer phone call to her family where she's super defensive and manipulative is sooo good. I love watching her unknowingly make it obvious that she's fucking insane.
45 likesHow the hell can ANYBODY listen to the blatantly obvious lies that this creature is telling and NOT know that she murdered her daughter? Especially when you combine them with all of the circumstantial evidence?! The fact that she’s free and wasn’t buried under the prison is beyond galling. To say that it’s an injustice is an understatement.
4 likesI was baffled when this jury returned this verdict! Either the prosecution did a really terrible job building the case or Casey’s attorney was really brilliant and knew just how to approach this case! Either way, I believe the murderer was set free!
0 likeslet me put it this way, as a father of two, i wouldn't wait an hour for my child to show up anywhere, let alone an infant disappear for more than 10 minutes. how the jury could decide against a conviction, i can never comprehend after the 911 call alone. she waited weeks without contacting the officials..
27 likesIt’s completely unbelievable that this person was not convicted of murder.
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@Pam Lyles i'm so sorry, your son didn't deserve death.
22 likes@Pam Lyles Your story makes me incredibly sad for you and your son.
2 likes@Pam Lyles do you believe in the bible? Because God promises the dead will be resurrected to life on earth. I'm not sure if you know that already. You could possibly be there to welcome him back.
10 likes@Mike Sikorski Zombies! Awesome!
61 likesAmazes me too
2 likesAbsolutely baffling!
1 like@Lbot beenthere I was looking into this as well, thank you for providing some more... factual information on the case.. Funny, yet disturbing, how this video is about a woman making up crazy stories, and in the comments, some people seem to buy Pam's crazy story without thinking about it...
3 likes@Pam Lyles this is why you dont simp.
0 likes@Joseph Charles this.
1 like@Lbot beenthere what about Calee's right to, oh I don't know... LIVE?? 🙄🙄🙄
0 likes@SIC66SIC66 I've been going through the comments and haven't see anyone defending her stories. I think you may be confusing people understanding the verdict, if no physical evidence was found that links the mother to murdering her daughter. All you have is motive based on behavior, and the mother's weird reactions to what happened with her daughter. In other words, you can infer that she was guilty on all that was presented, but you cannot convict someone without physical evidence or witnesses pointing you to the crime.
4 likesThis is entirely different than saying you believe her.
what are you serious?
0 likespssh if it was a person of color in her position, they'd be sent to prison for a very long time...
4 likes@Lbot beenthere Definitely confusing if there's not context, lol. Thanks for clarifying.
0 likes@Joseph Charles not only did a autopsy show Caylee died of suffocation, but Casey's search history literally included "foolproof suffocation". She didn't just lack empathy, she straight up DID NOT CARE about the time passed or put any effort into searching for her daughter. It's pretty unbelievable for people with common sense and inability to put up with privileged people's bs. I know saying "well if she can lie about this than she could lie about that" but cmon dude she got a tattoo about how beautiful her life was with her daughter gone!! Her lack of sympathy goes beyond lying
5 likesYES..HARD EARNED TAX DOLLARS HARD AT WORK??
2 likes@cranshawmccaw the point is based on all the evidence the prosecutors did provided, you shouldn't NEED physical evidence to be convinced that she was involved her daughters death somehow. Guess too much TV does that to a person though
3 likes@D J what an arrogant statement that completely misses the point I was trying to make. When you have physical evidence, it becomes easier to convict someone. Without it, it becomes harder since you have to rely on making a convincing argument based on evidence that in this case did not outright point to the mother. On top of which her history of her behavior placed a bit more doubt on her reaction. Overall, it would have been hard to convict on those grounds without letting your emotions guide you.
0 likes@John Apple It is good to see that "right to be innocent until innocent" is being practiced here, but think of how many trials there are that police are allowed to lie right through their teeth, sending innocent people into a cycle of never ending debt, simply because they were the only witness, even though cameras and audio somehow stop working in that specific time frame.
0 likes@John Apple she was proven to be guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. She was just not found guilty by a jury of her peers
2 likes@Mike Sikorski does God say just ''the dead'' cause I would love some freaking dinosaurs and stuff
1 likeso you dont understand the case
0 likes@Solareius What is it that we don’t understand?
0 likesThe prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
1 like@MystiKasT I see. That makes total sense. I have to admit that was a detail of this trial I was unaware of. Thanks!
1 likeCos she is woman mate
0 likesTruly people have been convicted of a lot more with a lot less evidence
0 likes@Hooflip Really? Name the cases. Remember we are talking first degree murder convictions. Also you said with a lot less evidence.
0 likes@Miguel Alcantar Maybe not in your view, He doesn't. Don't be a bigot.
0 likes@Zombie Revolverheld Quit attacking him.
0 likes@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie prove to me that exists. i’m waiting
0 likes@Dutch Vandermak I agree with the Prosecution overcharging. I believe a juror even said in an interview if it wasn't a death sentence she probably would have found her guilty. Only other capital case I can think of based off basically circumstantial evidence is Scott Peterson.
0 likes@Erica Bouchard Yeah and reasonable double.
0 likes@SIC66SIC66 He deleted his comment, what nuke was dropped here?
0 likesThe fact she she was immediately caught lying on the first day about the nanny’s whereabouts and her employment status at Disney where she hasn’t worked at in 2 years should say guilty right there. Like why are you lying to the police right off the bat.
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Wow you should become a detective
0 likes@Κοσμάς Ψαρρής I am
0 likesThis still makes me sick years later. What jury in their right mind found this woman not guilty?? Where they idiots?? Makes me sick this woman got away with mustering that beautiful little girl and she clearly has no remorse what so ever. Pure evil. The jury should be ashamed
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I agree 💯 it was the jury’s fault that this woman was set free . They did not get justice for Kaylee . Shame on them . Karma always gets people..
1 likeIf investigation was done in a different angles and aspects, strong evidence against her would be inevitable. It angered me to my core to see a criminal and a pathological liar walk freely as an innocent citizens. Shame on the jury and yea that bustard attorney who thinks he's too smart should soon face a humiliated career destroying case.
1 likeLet karma get her.
JCS has produced a lot of videos that viewers loved for the exceptional work. Why YouTube destroyed the original account seems fishy. I’m not impressed with YouTube, but thank you for curating the remaining videos.
20 likesI can’t believe Casey Anthony wasn’t convicted. There are problems within the American judicial system.
Casey's best friend: is extremely upset that Caylee is missing and through tears says she'll kill herself if anything happened to her
25880 likesCasey: Okay wow, this phone call was a waste of time.
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I was so disgusted at that moment, like holy shit. How can you be so open about being a heinous monster?
1825 likesWhat horrible and scary person
516 likesit's sort of like that in most of what she says
111 likesCasey: I got arrested and didn't get to talk to boyfriend for a whole day!! Why everyone just want to talk about my missing kid ugh so annoying...
1423 likesAnd to think people like this roam amongst us everywhere 😶😬
265 likesTotally. During that phone call, Casey was so consumed with rage at her parents for not bailing her out that she couldn't think of anything else. She kept hinting at it by saying "Mom I can't do anything while I'm in here, etc". Then the mother says, "Casey, we couldn't bail you out even if we wanted to". I don't believe this. I think the cops took the parents aside and said, you wanna pressure Casey to tell the truth? Let her stew in jail. If you bail her out, that pressure goes away. So the parents lied and said they can't afford the bail.
364 likesIt was a waste of time for her because she wasn't getting anything she wanted
149 likesShe cant see that its wrong, she things its her right to be upset because everything is going down for her
64 likes@BreakfastClub yeah. I am from another country. Here where i live you there are special places by hospitals where you can give anonym babys away. It's maybe not the most morale idea but it use was good for children. But even then there were people who killed their children. The probleme in my opinion is the social system and the low finanaced medical system. Would you lime to share your ideas and mind.
44 likes@J H Oh definitely
1 like@BreakfastClub This is a legit question. So I know that there is that law that says if you drop off a baby at a hospital or a church or something that, you won't be held criminally responsible because you are looking after the welfare of the child. Would this also apply to Caylee if let's say Casey didn't want to bring her to her parents house? If she decided she just couldn't handle being a mom anymore? I'm not suggesting that's what she did, I'm just wondering generally if it is an option for someone to do that.
27 likesYeah, that got me too. Unbelievable. I mean you know something is wrong when your friend is more emotional than you are and saying things like they will die if something happened to your daughter. That is just cold.
55 likesthis was so unnerving
16 likesCasey had grown bored talking about her child. Yes, Casey thought the discussion of the whereabouts of her child were getting old. Time wasted that coulda been used getting tats and clubbin at da club w00t w00t
85 likesmoralities aside, that was interesting to watch
14 likes@MercuryFever In Germany that ist legal. There are babydoors at hospitals not all but many. Although thiis is happening of course much lesser. Social things are the problems in my opinions. Like the behaviour of groups. Less pressure.
12 likesshe just wanted to talk to her bf, in prison you cant just fckn talk 10 hours, so wasting time to the same questions she was asked a lot of times can be annoying
8 likesFully, if someone said this about my child I would be hysterical, me too! I’d die if something ever happened to him. In fact I think everyone saying something happened to your child should be enough to erupt you into hysterics
23 likesShe did it alright
14 likesThat whole phone call was just really distressing. Poor baby.
28 likes@Erin M I agree and how the Hell did She get away with it. This jury really blew it.
18 likes@MercuryFever Laws vary by state but children older than 1 month can’t be surrendered that way.
3 likesI know. That was disgusting, heartbreaking.
5 likesAt that moment I knew she didn't give a shit about her baby. I didn't know this child and Christina's voice broke me down. This is so horrible.
39 likes@Leon Hamburg yeah maybe it looks bad compared to being a good parent, but dropping the kid off to the shelter is like being a saint when compared to murdering the child. Anyone who STILL does that needs death penalty.
7 likesAlso, yes the healthcare is messed up in this snd many other countries.
She had nothing. Her friend was heading into dangerous ground for her so her knee jerk reaction was to cut off the conversation and maintain control. Mixed up with / manifesting as annoyance as others have said. Of course in hindsight that in itself is an obvious red flag.
4 likes@Leon Hamburg I think a bigger problem is the people who have the kids they dont want
8 likesI just had to laugh when I heard her say that
1 likeWhen i watched that conversation i was at a loss for words. Tbh, the bestfriend is exactly how a mother should act in this kind of situation
22 likesThat was veryyy sad. Such a heavy thing to hear🥺
0 likes@MercuryFever no because it's endangering the welfare of a child if you drop them off and leave. Every state has different rules but most only allow for no consequence if it's a baby 3 mos or under
1 like@Game Time I promise you that 99% of those comments were from online trolls just trying to be edgy. People definitely found Casey attractive which is partially why the case blew up in the media, but the vast majority of people find her disgusting and guilty for sure.
12 likesI was so shocked by that. Even if my dog was missing and someone cared I’d feel comfort. I can’t believe people like her are among us
16 likes@Leon Hamburg I totally agree what country are you in. If I may ask?
0 likesNo. I’d like to believe not, at least.. this is pretty rare. Least, I hope so.
0 likesi started crying
1 likeI’m pretty sure you can’t post bail if you’re being investigated for murder
1 like@YourNatureBoy27 Thank you, I have no idea why I gave the wrong timestamp, I was probably very tired lol
1 likeok WOW christina, bring the drama down, gosh, it’s only an innocent 3 year old smh
6 likes@Leon Hamburg she appeared to want the baby at first, taking great care of it, i’m not sure if I can say she loved the baby because i’m not sure if she can feel love, however something happened at 3, so adoption really was not an option at that point. People really don’t adopt anything but a newborn baby.
2 likes@Eve Shinkai agreed, fascinating case study
1 like@Megan Whiteley I would learn to wind that down in case your child ends up needing you in that hysterical state where you can’t think straight. imo.
0 likes@Aleisa Etheridge i’m sure a few of the jury members thought she was hot so they slid in biased “reasonable doubt,” maybe intentionally or maybe not, probably somewhere in the middle. I’m astounded she didn’t get convicted, I think they should’ve tried to charge her with second degree murder as they couldn’t prove it was premeditated, I think that was the fatal mistake that allowed her to walk free along with an extreme stroke of luck with a jury that would let this happen.
1 like@RazzBerry SAME. I couldn't believe it. Everyone new what She did and new she should have been punished. Im not saying she killed her on purpose. But she sure wasn't to broken up about What happen , out having a grand old time dancing and smiling. I know damm well She caused that sweet baby's death no matter how it happen. There's a picture of her smiling during the trail that literally lives so evil. I have 3 kuds of my own and I get upset when they skin their knee. She was a liar and a awful Mother and I know that doesn't make her a murderer , but She was. She's living with one of the investigators from Her trail from Her side ofcourse. She applied for some kind of business license , private investigation. That's something isn't it.
2 likes@RazzBerry tf is the point in your comment?
4 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
0 likes@MercuryFever actually it would considered abandonment unless done legally
1 likeGibberish. Who helped you write that nonsense
0 likesOn point
1 likeI KNOW!!! Soon as I heard, it reminded me exactly of how my ex would treat me lmao
0 likesThis is some of the best evidence that Casey doesn't hold any love for her daughter.
2 likes@RYAN SHARMAN IS A DOUBLE AGENT True but they were talking about her childhood and how the parents are whipped so the parents maybe felt they had to lie to maintain a relationship with their daughter.
0 likes@Erin M no need to curse
0 likes@BreakfastClub Well, sure. But in her mind at the time, there wasn't another option that could earn her sympathy at the same time.
0 likesYeah that was some cold blooded stuff.
0 likes@CarloisBuriedAlive There will always be people of both sexes that find people that commit horrific crimes attractive. People that correspond with them in prison, marry them in prison, etc.
1 like.
0 likes@RYAN SHARMAN IS A DOUBLE AGENT absolutely. The parents wanted the truth above all else
1 like@BreakfastClub True, but she didn't care, she still thought of her daughter as an inconvenience anyway. Even with the other options, in her mind, she chose an option that she thought was a way better alternative which was getting rid of her child.
1 likeChristina's voice broke my heart 😭
2 likesShe was the only normal and sensible human being in this whole affair (being close to the family circle i mean )
@MercuryFever There is an age limit to safe havens. Usually one month. I personally think any she should be allowed because it may save the child.
3 likesYeah, that pretty much says it all.
0 likes@Erin M she doesn't realize she's a monster - she thinks she's normal. And ultimately, no matter how hard one may try, it's impossible to hide one's true colours completely or indefinitely - in some way or another, they will show themselves eventually.
2 likes@Leon Hamburg yeah, but where are those babies going? I just finished watching a documentary on human trafficking. To find out what actually happens to some of these kids is not for the faint of heart. To give you some idea, there are people out there who actually eclipse the evil of Casey Anthony - as unbelievably horrifying as that may sound.
4 likes@MercuryFever chilling.
0 likes@Mc LOVIN not if they're sane.
0 likes@Erin M turn to Christ and repent before it’s too late because He loves us so much He died for us and God His Father raised Him from the dead and loves us 🥰
2 likesHer own brother and her best friend and her mother all knew she was lying to them. Her brother said the truth will come out.
5 likesWhen her own family thinks she's guilty, how on earth can a jury not find her guilty
@Aleisa Etheridge yeah she's living with one of the defense detectives and works as a researcher
1 likeThis baffled me
0 likes@RazzBerry Does not matter. I live a few blocks away from Casey anotheys home. I can't afford to have a child, we are same age- single unemployed women, her and I. My parents don't support me either. Heres what I would have done (if no abortion or birth control access, very likely in conservative religious florida, and barring sex abstinence which is my plan A for no baby). I would have called CPS and handed off that baby to the state. Give them all the evidence why adoption/foster home is NEEDED here. Signed off parental right or whatever else there is to sign. I would have literally said I can't afford to feed this mouth, or cloth or shelter, point by point. Im sorry CPS is a joke here and it needs to not be. CPS is the literal difference between life and death for so many children and Id rather be in the 'system' forever than exist as a child with abusive parents, bc in the former there is hope, latter you have no chance.
2 likes@J H we had a lying sociopath president from 2017 to 2021
1 likeSo bad comment, insane
1 like@Eurotrash RC nope it’s your one call
0 likes@Beam BOYZ what?
0 likes@BreakfastClub Imagine really not wanting your child, what do you do with it? I'm actually really curious
0 likesCouldnt of she just be a bad mother and have her parents watch kaylee until she grows up and resents her mother like normal people!
2 likes@RYAN SHARMAN IS A DOUBLE AGENT one could only hope the parents would do that. But they seem like enablers, who were willing to go as far as to say they abused her, and it's not her fault because they were such bad parents.
0 likesIt's an entire circle of human cancer.
Even psychopaths are aware of their lack of human basic emotions, this woman is just a freak of nature
3 likesmh-hmmm
1 like@RYAN SHARMAN IS A DOUBLE AGENT when bail was lowered she was bailed out by her parents asap. They genuinely tried everything to protect their little spawn of satan.
2 likesThat phone call was annoying af - if you put it from Casey's perspective.
1 likeAnd I though same they are annoying af.
She wanted her bf number, not to listen about children she doesnt care about at all. 🤷♂️
Just the lack of emotion in her voice when her mom put her on the phone to the 911 dispatcher speaks volumes.
6 likesWould you consider yourself to be a good person?
1 likeHow many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@x Dutchess x Why do you say that? Why do you think she deserves hell?
0 likesRightttt like the friend care more about Caylee more than caylees own mother
0 likesYeah both her mom and her sister are acting the way the actual mom should and yet she is just annoyed if anything
0 likes“Give me Tony’s number”. JFC
1 like@BreakfastClub Right??? If she didn't want to have the responsibility of having a kid and just wanted to enjoy her youth and go clubbing, why did she have the kid in the first place? And even though it's all said and done now, even if she still had the kid, why didn't she just put her up for adoption or something instead of literally murdering her? She didn't even clear her search history for god's sake, how daft can you be????
3 likesBut she didn't kill herself.
0 likesthe grandparents need to be looked at. a month and they hadnt seen their granddaughter?! what? 2 weeks tops and they should have reported something. or am i missing something?
2 likes@Game Time …she’s hot. But she’s a monster. I think many of these crime stories reach a national level simply because the monster is good looking. Jodi Arias, that Dipollito girl, Chris Watts, Scott Peterson, etc. The human species is predictable and it’s pretty disturbing.
0 likesI think and felt it was because the family n friend is accusing her and not supporting her
0 likes@Danny ! exactly so many parents blaming and punishing harming children for having them. It was their choice. She could have given her daughter to her grandparents
1 like@Tax is Slavery Boxing I thought the grandparents didn’t see their daughter either…. It’s not a crime to not be invited for a visit.
0 likes@Patrick Star then you are not fit to be a parent
0 likesFamily: please just tell us what's going on and stop lying to the cops, if you have ANY idea where Caylee is you need to tell th--
0 likesCasey: shut up i want to talk to my boyfriend 🙄
@BreakfastClub literally she did not have to kill that little girl, her grandparents would have took her in and with open arms. that was so wrong and just messed up in all types of ways, I don't even consider that her daughter.
0 likes@ciocia tf?
2 likesCraziest most fucked up moment ever seen
0 likesThat phone call had my jaw on the floor. She’s so evil.
0 likes@J H thats about par with most middle management
0 likes1:24
0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
Casey is innocent. There's no physical evidence that she did something with Kaylee, she's just a congenital liar. Leave this poor woman alone. - she lost her child. If she was guilty she could have just taken the fifth.
0 likes@P Pumpkin nah. There is no chance someone that lies like that is innocent. Poor woman?! Really?
1 likeYeah ...honestly....out of all the shocking evidence and such that was one that really stood out. She was making these phone calls before fully wising up and showing more of her actual callous disregard.
1 like@olivia grace god won’t save humanity
0 likesi was around caylee’s age when this case became public. i remember my mom telling me how her heart would drop every time she read something new about the case when the media hit it, and how she remembers everything about her being the most hated woman in america, especially since casey is from our home town.
9 likesI remember when I was on vacation and I was about 10 years old hearing about this case on the news and how she was found not guilty despite all the evidence they had and how everyone was disgusted with the verdict.
2 likesThis video was really informative and provided me with a new perspective of just how negligent and apathetic Casey was towards her poor daughter that I didn’t really get from the news at the time. It’s sad to think Caylee would’ve been around 16-17 right now😔
I’m 24 and I’m so grateful to have parents who care about me, I just wish caylee could’ve had the same thing.
29:43 “Callie HAS been so lucky to have both of you”
9 likesInteresting she uses past tense, suggesting this won’t continue.
I believe her parents picked up on this as her mother brings her hands to her mouth in horror. Then the murderer tries to save herself for 10-15 seconds using current tense “still has both of you”, and repeats this once or twice.
Surprised JCS didn’t bring this up… or perhaps my observation is not accurate.
This woman is the worst. I hope someone gives her the karma she deserves.
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not to discredit your point but "has" is actually a present tense word in this scenario
2 likesJust imagine what that poor innocent little girl felt in the last moments and watch the end of the trial, hopefully this was for the better and Karma has a far worse plan for her to endure than jail, and hopefully she gets more than what she deserves and feels the same pain her daughter felt in the last moments, I am disgusted by that so obviously fabricated story.
12 likesThe fact that she was annoyed by her best friend crying over caylee being gone infuriated me
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I dunno, she was also probing her for information, which to me, would be insanely insulting if you were innocent.
147 likes@2flow yeah that's true, but she ain't innocent lmao
1062 likesshe was annoyed at her friend's ability to have emotions, creepy how coldblooded she is
879 likes@2flow If she were innocent she would give up info?
189 likes@2flow ...but she obviously wasn't innocent
156 likesI got annoyed too, The crazy didn't even wanted to talk to her ( this best friend) and she was like "I feel sad, bla bla"
54 likesNobody asked to talk to you, I am in jail, the child is missing , grandfathers are sad and desesperate, who are you? how you feel? Nobody cares, you just force yourself into the conversation and situation, begone.
Maybe I'm having a bad day, but I actually laugh when she said 'OMG, calling you guys? Huge waste'
Same yo
5 likes@Sharon G the fact that her parents ENDORSED HER LIES when they faked her graduation though... insane.
223 likesTimestamp?
2 likes@Tatiana López
63 likesI know! Remember the wedding that they went to when Casey was eight months pregnant, it was a family wedding, Cindy’s brother or something. Casey was very obviously pregnant yet the entire subject was ignored by her parents! Her mother was a piece of work too, lying under oath about the smell in the trunk being pizza.
@2flow true but she at that was outed to be a liar and didnt say one thing in the interrogation that would help her daughter so of course she would lose it at her
7 likesthat almost made me cry i was like wow
6 likes@fireflame ft 23:20
5 likes@Laquan probably because a beautiful, innocent child was killed by her own mother, who got away with it. That feeling comes from being an empathetic person. She lied continuously and showed not an ounce of concern about where her daughter was. In fact, she led police on numerous wild goose chases. And got away with it. That's infuriating.
85 likes@Laquan what kind of comment is this
64 likes@Laquan ask yourself where YOUR empathy is when ANY innocent child, or adult for that matter, is killed.
40 likes@Omar Mohamed She appeared annoyed at her not being able to get that number. Jail calls are limited. You can't talk on it forever. And the guy made it look like she was going round and round with him when all she was requesting with the number. In such a situation, especially one this serious, I'd probably be annoyed too. He just keep going on and on.
3 likes@Talon Todd she was completely indifferent and irritated whenever they brought up her murdered daughter, idk how u listen to that interaction and justify her behavior
30 likes@Omar Mohamed @Omar Mohamed @Omar Mohamed Easily. From a place of logic. You're getting all emotional and butthurt about it. She was guilty imo, don't get me wrong. Emotions aside. She needed info, used a limited call FROM JAIL to acquire it. Then she gets told: "I dOnT kNoW wHaT rEaL gOOd It's GOnnA dO U aT tHiS pOniT."-as if he actually needs to know-and the nonsense from him that followed it. Given the circumstances, that would be a bit frustrating, no? If you're going to sit there and say otherwise, there's nothing else I could say.
3 likes@Talon Todd I understand ur points, and if she was innocent it would be completely understandable that she's being accused of something so heinous and instead of helping her her family is accusing her and being useless, thats frustrating ya. But when we have full context, we understand she only ever showed sympathy and emotion for herself, and she is also clearly guilty of the crime. So ya, her indifference to her daughters death and frustration showed how cold blooded she really is. I don't get what u disagree with about that
22 likes@Crow Medicine I totally agree with you. Casey should not be walking the streets!!
5 likes@Laquan lol oh don't worry - St. George of Fentanyl will live on since he's constantly in our faces 🤦🏽♀️
5 likesthat part pissed me off sm. you can tell Christina loved Caylee so much.
8 likesthe mere fact that her friend is 1.actually crying and worried about the kid 2.overall EMOTING more than the actual mother of the child is pretty disturbing
16 likesThe fact that she was found not guilty is what infuriated me
11 likes@Hamish Wilson facts :/
6 likesBut Casey never cried. My heart would be broken and I sure as hell wouldn't be out clubbing looking like a total slag ....just saying !
6 likes@Sharon G somehow the smell of death morphed into the smell of old pizza. That happens in Florida some times you know......🙄🤪🍕
6 likes@2flow ok but anyone with a brain can see there's no innocence in someone like Casey, so get outta here with that, go preach that where it's relevant. she literally lied from the start bro, she's sick
10 likesEXACTLY.
1 like1:24
0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
@Sharon G If you grew up with a pathological liar, it's not that easy to tell if what they're saying is truthful
8 likesShe was pissed off that her daughter's life actually mattered to HER best friend, she wanted attention to herself not Caylee
13 likes@Macy sondheim i was suspended from school twice so uh i guess shoot me when i'm on my way to the grocery store?? wtf that's disgusting
8 likes@Harshvardhan Kanthode same!! i'm colombian and i can see some spoiled ass rich kids getting away with this shit, but the rest of us? nah mate
1 like@Denise Pleines You can't say that. The video is clearly taking sides and not even trying to be objective. Perhaps she cried every day. We would never know. I'd be interested in an objective video or better text about this case.
1 like@2flow If she was innocent which she isn't.
3 likes@Laquan you can't farm hate-karma on youtube bro
2 likes@Caesthoffe it’s the way people responded to an obvious troll with racism 💀
3 likesseriously...pissed me off too
2 likes@2flow is people like you the reason she is free
2 likes@Talon Todd I wouldnt be remotely annoyed if I had a daughter who was missing and my best friend was scared/upset. In fact, I would be leaning on my best friend for strength and reassuring us both. But of course, I wouldnt kill anyone, ESPECIALLY an amazing 2 year old who had a literal lifetime ahead of her. Casey was annoyed because to her, crying over Caylee was pointless and annoying because she never gaf abut Caylee.
4 likes@Laquan she’s a 3 year old baby!! That’s why its infuriating! We should all care about anyone that’s senselessly killed!
1 like@Victoria Ferguson Good for you. Mother of the year. Listen, I hear you. At the end of the day, everyone is different. There was some lady in Oklahoma that stabbed her kid a shit ton of times. So much that some of the wounds were starting to merge. For every mother like you, there are going to be a few of those of Anthonys ilk
0 likes@Omar Mohamed When did I disagree about her being cold-blooded? Don't fucking put words in my mouth to fit your point. You don't get to play around on the damn phone all day, when you're IN JAIL. Cold-blooded or not THESE ARE LIMITED CALLS! What part of that are you struggling to understand?! Forget it. YouTube clearly isn't a forum for conversations like this.
1 like@2flow she was probing for information because they found out Casey had lied about everything to the police, and was locked up because of doing so...innocent people don't lie in a situation like that, but her friend was still polite and caring in her questioning, clearly hoping something else had happened besides what was starting to become clear had actually happened.
1 likeProbably been said before but... Fullmetal Alchemist spoilers
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Ikr this is just so heart breaking
1 likeBrought me to tears. That so many people loved this little girl and this monster was her mother.
1 like@2flow You sick
1 like@nep nep but in a narcissist's mind, they are Always, always 100% innocent, blame free and deserve every good thing and all the praise in the world. Think Trump.
0 likes@Franc Lipovnik if she had the info.
0 likesThis is the most manipulative person I have ever seen. Conning your parents into throwing you a grad party when you didn’t even graduate is next level!
11 likesNot too many people can fathom the drama her parents are going through. The pain in her dad's eye is indescribable.
2 likesThe way Casey was speaking to her mother was truly shocking, it really showed how disgusting of a person she is.
1 likethe fact that casey didn’t get charged for ANYTHING after LYING TO THE FACE OF THE POLICE and then they think she isn’t lying about being sexually abused or that Caylee died in her family pool it’s disgusting. I have no idea how this jury didn’t see her constant lies UNDER OATH wouldn’t be condemning enough evidence to throw her in jail nothing she says is true and she just gets away with it
10 likesLet's see:
5235 likes- Didn't report her child home for over a month
- Lied to detectives entitling and even made up people to make a story
- Showed no signs of sadness her daughter was dead, murdered or not
- Wrote in her diary about how happy she is and how the end justifies the means
- Googled how to suffocate someone
- Car smelled like a dead body
And still was found not guilty? Bullshit. Honestly should've been a mistrial cause the judge even later admitted that bringing up the rape accusations when they had no proof tainted the jury.
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-Opening defense statement claims that Caylee drowned, but duct tape was found on her corpse surrounding the mouth and nose
451 likes@mfbloc besides what the opening statement says I still think she is guilty due to her body Lang and the way she reacts to her daughter missing an then to find out she is dead an have zero reaction… that has guilty written all over it… when I come home an I see my garbage can flipped over I look at my dog an he gives me that same look that Casey gives these detectives the looks of guilt
78 likes@young_sbg14 gaming You misunderstood the comment. He just added another piece of evidence to her being guilty.
108 likesrelax bro, they never get in trouble.
52 likeswomen are innocents creatures that cannot do wrong in the eyes of the lake :)
@Sample Text yeah, it’s so sick how women can get away with so much shit.. my mom is the same way, she’s ruined my life completely but everytime i talk to someone about not having contact with her they get mad at me because ”she’s such a good/nice/wonderful person!!”. Every time I reported her to cps or the cops she’d cry a little and talk about what a good mom she is, and everyone bought it.. I don’t understand why the world is so fucked up, it sucks.
124 likesAnd also duck tape was found on her mouth and nose
7 likes@Zarahya
6 likesrelax bro, just understand what power woken have and use it if you can.
always be careful of them, good luck I hope you can get away from u mom or do something about it
@Sample Text Jesus christ, okay
20 likes@Sample Text Am I having a stroke or are you guys saying woken? Wut
17 likesShe killed her own daughter how crazy can you be
17 likesAll I'm saying is let this be a black woman doing this to a black daughter… Shorty would've went down
35 likes@Zarahya u cant use two examples to hate on women? first of all its the justice system being predjudiced, which are mostly men 🤡 also u cant blame women for this because ? they wont object to beinf treated better? its not our fault so no need to continue ur hatw for women
18 likes@NinaGangster wtf? I don’t hate women at all. Just because I think it’s sick that women can get away with so much shit because they are women, doesn’t mean I hate my own gender. Because newsflash, I’m a woman myself.
27 likes@Sample Text I’m not a “bro”, I’m a woman. I’m also very relaxed, i just think it’s unfair how women get treated differently, and have a lot of experience from it. I apologise for sharing my experiences, since I obviously made you uncomfortable or something. That was not my intention.
19 likes@fenix144 I made a typo. Women got auto corrected to woken and I didn’t notice. Sorry
2 likes@Zarahya haha it's cool dude. I was just curious because you both wrote woken
4 likesliterally
0 likes@Zarahya
0 likesah I see, it is up to you now.
you have the knowledge.
you can choose to abused the power of being a girl.
it is important to understand what power you have and how you can abuse it. (never wrong to have a little fun with it)
good luck bro, overpowered gender
@Chad Jones you know it! Reminds me of Tanya McDowell who got 12 years for sending her 6 year old son to a different school district from their address.. but this broad Anthony only got 4 years
7 likesKarma’s a thing and she has it coming, it’s only a matter of time before she commits another awful crime thinking she can get away with it again. I can’t believe people like these get to have children.
4 likes@Sample Text if it was a single father they wouldn’t have even questioned it.
10 likesWHITE WOMAN
2 likes@Minoth Kariyawasam But it's clear that someone dies / drowns when (s)he has duck tape around his/her nose/mouth and cannot breath anymore but struggle in the water on how to survive...?
0 likesCaylee was still HER daughter so it's Cassie's choice to do with her what she wants. Until the child is old enough to support itself it's the choice of the mother to do whatever she wants, the same as abortion. So many damn sexists here. 🙄🙄
4 likes@Flip Flip Flipadelphia Wtf... It's not Caylee's fault for being born and it certainly doesn't mean she should be killed for it. Caylee was an actual being who could feel pain and think for herself... She wasn't a fetus yet to be born. People actual think that just because you are a parent means that you have the right to kill your own child... This isn't sexism... The woman murdered her own daughter... Someone she was supposed to love and care for.
18 likes@Qiralyn Cassette a fetus cannot support itself just like a toddler. A fetus does also not contribute to society unlike an adult which does both. The adult cares for it's child just like a car or house which it can sell or junk at anytime. Maybe you should grow up and stop being bigoted 🤔🧐
1 like@Qiralyn Cassette you can't discuss things with people who think like that (@flip). If you go by their mindset they're lucky their mom or dad didn't discard them into the trash.
11 likes@NinaGangster return to fds
0 likes@jeffoff she was found not guilty buddy so maybe you should see a doctor. Not me for being rational
0 likesThat’s crZy she dead talked her way out of everything
3 likes@Qiralyn Cassette don't bother, this person is clearly trying to equate this situation with abortion, not in the sense that's it's ok to murder your child, but in the sense that abortion is the same as murdering your child like this woman did. their intentions are the opposite of what they pretend they are
6 likes@Flip Flip Flipadelphia 1. ratio 2. are you really tryna compare an unborn fetus to a live child? ya, a live child can’t really give to society, but it can in about 6 years. and if we’re using your logic, since the kid can’t contribute now might as well kill it before it reaches max potential of being a human and contributing to society. it’s two very different things man
9 likesWhen looking for jury members they only look for people who were set 8
0 likesLeider sind die Bewohner der USA in schnitt verdammt dumm. Deshalb bin ich über das Ergebnis nicht besonders verwundert.
4 likesDer Anwalt wiedert mich an. Falls es einen Gott gibt, hoffe ich, dass er seine strafe erhält. Falls es keinen Gott gibt, falls es nur ein sadistisches, übernatürliches Monster gibt, hoffe ich, dass der Anwalt am meißten leidet.
she also said her daughter >had< best grand parents.. in a time she claimed her daughter is still alive.. 30:04
4 likes@Zarahya you and @Sample Text should really take a moment and think about what you're saying before you make generalizations about an entire gender. I am truely sorry for your abusive experience with your mother, but I hope you can realize that some people are abusive and others are not regardless of gender or anything else beyond their control. I hope you are just young and grow up to realize this mindset is wrong and damaging to both yourself and those around you.
1 likeSo, it was the prosecution’s fault Casey wasn’t convicted. They allowed their hubris to dictate what they thought to be their “slam dunk” case. They went for 1st degree murder as opposed to 2nd degree/manslaughter. Then during the trial, they could not produce enough evidence to convince the jury that it was premeditated and intentional. Casey Anthony is 100% responsible for her daughter’s death but, because of the overzealous prosecution, they shot themselves in the foot by charging murder in the 1st. I’m not defending that POS so-called “mother,” I’m just trying to explain how and why she was set free.
3 likes@Flip Flip Flipadelphia what
3 likesimagine Googling how to suffocate someone then the day of ur kids suffocates and try to convince someone thats not sus.
4 likesThis is honestly a case of the prosecution reaching too far and is an prime example of when a guilty person gets away with a crime because the evidence is too circumstantial. Essentially either one of two things happen, either casey did murder Caylee and tried to hide it, or Caylee died some other way and casey tried to conceal her death. The issue is that if there is even the tiniest amount of death that later was true, the jury is obligated to find her not guilty. The prosecution was over confident with this case and casey got away shot free, the should have also tried her on lower charges of conceal thing death Caylee, and tampering with an investigation. While they wouldn't have gotten the same level of punishment as murder, she would have easily been found guilty and at least faced prison time for her actions. Regardless of whether or not she was the murderer.
0 likes@Chad Jones wtf does this have to do with race?
2 likesFirst off, even if her father did sexually abuse her (which probably never happened), what would that have to do with this case?
4 likes@BusLady Many people incorrectly believe it was an attempt to garner sympathy and victimization. However, that is only partially true. Its primary purpose was meant to serve as an explanation as to how and why Casey had continued to directly lie to law enforcement. By saying she was conditioned at a very young to hide trauma, it was to excuse her deceptive behavior while she was being interrogated.
2 likesAgree. The fact that there's an evidence that the back of her car that smells like a dead body was very obvious and also lying to detectives on her workplace....... come on. And now not proven guilty, wat a bullsh**
3 likes@BusLady agree,... also did they proven that she was sexually abused by her father? Smells like fishy here
2 likes@Ted Pel It was never proven. She also claimed that her father helped cover up the death and dumped the child's body. They no longer have a good relationship and he believes her to be guilty. Her mother still believes she is innocent. Did he go on trial for anything?
3 likesAlmighty God will deal with her.
1 like@Zarahya I’m sorry that happened to you. I can’t imagine what itd be like to have a shit for a mother.
1 like@NinaGangster based
0 likesIt's crazy how they can find some evidence to be circumstantial I just don't see how you can walk around knowing you murdered someone esp your own kid
2 likesyou forgot the duct tape which makes no sense why would you duct tape a drowned child
1 likeWelcome to Democrat Party's America.
1 like@Eric Chadwick i’m fully aware that people can be abusive no matter what their gender is. I’ve experienced it multiple times, so thanks but i already know that. I’m 23 years old so don’t speak to me like I’m a child, it’s very condescending. My statement is nothing more than a fact, women can easier manipulate both the police and other agencies, especially when children are involved. It’s like no one wants to believe that mothers can be evil, so they usually get the benefit of the doubt, even when all the evidence are pointing towards them. Do you seriously not think that’s wrong? Because I sure as hell do. I get that it might not be fun to think about, but don’t treat me like I’m the next Alek or something. I’m a woman who’s just frustrated with the world’s views on abusers, nothing more. I’m not saying that ALL women are abusers and manipulators, that would be a harmful generalisation. I’m just stating the obvious, because we all know that Cris Watt would never have gotten the same treatment as Casey did, even though their cases are pretty similar in many ways.
3 likes@never gonna give you up thank you. I’m happy you don’t know, hopefully you have loving parents 🌼
0 likes@Zarahya I'm not saying, there can't be biases - there certainly are. And in other situations the man may have the bias in their favour. Your comment just came off to me in a way that implied "all women" so thanks for clarifying. Was not for a second thinking you were "the next Alek". Sorry to have offended you/being condescending.
1 likeThat's all no proof, unfortunately.
0 likesWelcome to usa :)
0 likes@Eric Chadwick if you had read my other comments before hand I think you would have understood where I was coming from. At least now we understand each other! I hope you have a wonderful weekend mate :)
0 likesHave to have proof behind reasonable doubt, it's a two edged sword. Sometimes it puts innocent people behind bars, sometimes it let's guilty people walk free, the alternative is chaos
1 like@Sample Text pls omf- why y'all using this case as an excuse to be sexist ew
1 likeAll we know is that she 100% at least had some involvement with her daughters literal murder w/ a third party present or not.
0 likes@Sample Text stop saying relax bro
0 likescircumstantial evidence
0 likesJust replying to the original commenter: and now she plans on having another child who could very well end up dead too once Casey decides she's bored of being a parent again, all because she wasn't convicted the first time despite what most people would consider to be overwhelming evidence
0 likes@Zarahya if you want some kind of inspiration to get out pf that problem, play a song named mt wolf red and do as the lyrics say
0 likesThe way she spoke with 911 operator itself speaks how Heartless & emotionless this monster is
2 likesProsecution: "Just look at all this incontrovertible evidence"
26 likesJudge: "Why do you have a total blatant disregard for your daughter's wellbeing? Is she just a piece of trash to you?"
Casey: "What-everrr! I said in my diary I'm happy she's dead. I just want to twerk for all my cheap ass is worth in hot body contests"
Jury: "You go girl! Not guilty!"
It's been a year since the first time I watch and know about this case and to this day I still hate how it ended. I really hope she leads a miserable life now.
15 likesThe defense never "wins" a case, it's the prosecutors' to lose, and lose they did. Who called the most vulnerable witnesses (the grandparents) over and over and over again? Who failed even after opening to understand that this was a reasonable doubt hole that should have been addressed before trial? Who made it more about character than evidence? So yes, the State of Florida let a guilty woman walk because of their negligence.
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If the defendant is truly innocent, then the defense can absolutely 'win' a case.
0 likesObviously that wasn't the case here though. 😜
She’s so heartless that she falsely accused her own father of sexual abuse to save her own skin . That’s is utterly disgusting.
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There seems to be nothing she won't say to save her own skin.
599 likesI mean, it might be true that both things happened
296 likesYeah I waited on her parents. They were the nicest people. I knew it wasn't their fault. But it was crazy to see them
186 likesYou are just guessing. Post a factual link?
31 likesThe defense also claimed that George was the one who went and hid her body, because that's what a former police officer would do, make an accident look like a murder, definitely, for sure.
220 likes@Rrrobinnn I mean his lack of reaction alone shows it’s probably true. Surely he’d be seething with anger and disgust after being falsely accused of abusing his own daughter? The only other thing I can think would be if the family along with Casey proposed that as a lie but given her mother’s initial reaction I would be very surprised.
92 likes@RickGastly People like you need to stop. Not everyone is acting 101 according to a textbook, even if most other people do. I know for a fact that I don't easily show emotions and reactions on the outside to the same level as most other people do, but I am reacting on the inside - but no one can see that.
317 likes@Mycenaea are you slow? You’re sat in court room and the bombshell that you’ve apparently abused your daughter is just dropped completely unexpectedly and you wouldn’t so much as react let alone say you didn’t??
70 likesTHAT FUCKING SENT ME
12 likes@RickGastly Saying anything would be Contempt of Court which you could get fined/jailed for. Also he can’t prove that he DIDNT sexually abuse her either way
127 likesIf I were her I’d rather be in jail because the public will be hunting her down
12 likes@Mads she's living an awesome life now.. and prollys gonna write a book on Caylee
19 likes@RickGastly nah dude the dad probably knew at that point that his daughter killed her and he was merely contemplating everything. That’s how I would be. I sorta sympathized with his (lack of) reaction cuz I’ve been there. To me it seemed like he was contemplating all of it internally, realizing everything he thought of his daughter was wrong. Already starting to question if she was really a sociopathic murderer and then hearing that she would go the extra mile to accuse him of raping her as a kid, it would just confirm it for me. imagine wrapping your head around that in the moment. I would just be so struck at that point I wouldn’t even entertain an outward reaction. Maybe he also trusted the jury would see through the lies
153 likes@LIFO the party why should they vote differently in the case of them believing she was raped as a kid? she still killed her daughter (with multiple pieces of overwhelming evidence) that wasn’t anyones responsibility but hers and she deserves to face the consequences like anyone else
63 likes@Mycenaea It's defamation of character. If you stood up and stated you didn't do this, i'm not sure if it's appropriate, but if you didn't, it's as if you were indirectly stating you were guilty of the crime you were accused of. This is slander, it's a pretty serious offense and could permanently hurt someone's social status, thus, if the father didn't do what he was accused of, he would stand up to maintain his status quo.
7 likes@Some Guy he can't prove he didn't sexually abuse her, but they can't prove he did, either way that's slander and could badly hurt his reputation.
19 likesAnd besides, after this analysis of her behavior and the fact she's known by the PD to be a liar, there's no reason to believe her, but then again, you don't know if she's telling the truth or not. So, you can't take her word for anything she says unless she provides proof
14 likesThis is also just speculation but according to the footage of her talking with her parents, the mere fact that she thanked her father for being a good grandparent is contradictory to her public statement about her being sexually abused by her father. It's not plausible that she went the extra mile of purposely lying on camera when she talked to her parents and especially thanked her father and whatnot. She looks pretty stupid so I kinda doubt she would even think that far, maybe she didn't plan on revealing the alleged rape accusations before.
28 likesThis could be true but the storyline still doesn't add up anyway
1 like@Mads I sure do hope.. But if she can do Mary joe, 31 days after her child's death, and still be chill, laughing about it, (and mind you she's still in great shape), I don't think she has any regret... And I think it has rather granted her a pseudo celebrity like status
5 likesHow do you know that?
2 likes@RickGastly it's simple if you have lived with a liar for a long time you know to not give their lies any attention, because it becomes a sit where it brings up doubt that you only contest that lie and no other. In a battle of lies pretending a liar said nothing is always better than trying to pick and choose the battle, because they will always win.
13 likesnope it makes alot of sense for that to be the thing which affected casey which is why im surprised they didnt just turn the case on him at that point or atleast start one after this and put her dad in prison
1 like@a single french fry I'm pretty sure the defense used the r*pe story to explain why she lies so much since she kept lying to investigators throughout the case. Unfortunately, it kind of worked since she got off free...
6 likes@Mew Mint and it’s funny cuz that in itself was very likely a lie
9 likesDid he ever deny this? I've never seen his response to these accusations.....
7 likesA lot of shitty people have history of getting abused in any way. its just speculation but I think this is why casey became like this... (If that was true)
5 likesHe does deny it when he is on the stand....just watched it.
10 likes@Bryan White Were you part of that jury?
1 likePeople who believe she might have told the truth regarding that are no different from that jury
5 likesI read so many comments here and nobody said it. How could this many people not get it. Let’s think about this. Casey Anthony was raised by who? Her parents. Now they didn’t mean to raise a murderer but whatever lying and deception was going on in that household obviously stuck with her but her dad was a cop so he knew what to do and what not to do. So he knew he lost his granddaughter and he didn’t want to also lose his daughter so he allowed for all of this once it was past the point of no return.
9 likes@RickGastly That's a childish or TV Drama way to respond. He stands up "That's not true!" If he did that, it would make him look more guilty. The immature way to respond to someone's accusations is not to immediately state it isn't true. Because you know it isn't true, you don't need everyone to know that because you know it.
8 likesTHAT WAS SOOOO SAAADDDDDDDD
1 like@SmackedPickle what does being a former police officer have to do with anything? theyre definitly capable of murder and its not like they hold the law in special regard lol.
3 likes@Mads so do I. But Casey doesn’t seem like the sorta person to care either way…
0 likes@yaoi boi the defense was that Caylee died by accident, and George handled it in a way that made it look like a murder. Not that he murdered her himself. I don't care who you are, if someone dies by accident you're not going to make it look like a murder, maybe the other way around. I just think you wanted a chance to take a misguided dig at police morality.
1 likePs, I agree, most cops kinda or definitely succ, but you're missing my point
To be fair not like it something that couldn’t happen
0 likes@Scee Sure, but to be fair, there's a lot of things that fall into the category of "not like it's something that couldn't happen". Some of those things are legit plausible even. However what is the likelihood of them? The allegations were there to just muddle the perception of her, to cast doubt. Like it almost seems like the defense created a big moral grey area because they knew people are terrible at navigating through moral uncertainty.
5 likes@Carter Yasutake the likelihood seems about 50/50 to me. Some of the people in the comments are saying that just based of the tiny bit we saw of him and how nice he looked it’s clear he didn’t do it. Or that one person who I think said something about serving him once. If he did do it, it doesn’t change the fact that she most likely killed her kid. But I don’t see why her killing her kid would suddenly make it so that her being touched by her dad impossible, which is what I was getting at with my original comment. You don’t have to agree, I’m not changing my mind about it being possible and I’m sure you’re not changing yours about it most likely not happening, good talk tho.
3 likes@Mycenaea lol even when people(family) accuse you of molestation/rape? Dayum. That's not good. Some lies warrant an appropriate reaction, most don't....but then again, if he WOULD HAVE reacted, it may have been the difference between his daughter being put to death, and walking free. Hard spot lol
0 likes@RickGastly this isn’t talked about enough which sucks, but her parents were told that if they were to sit in court they could not show any emotion. Maintaining a calm and objective environment is important in the court. He was trapped. He wanted to be present for Caylee but he wasn’t allowed to react.
0 likesHer lawyer though needs an Oscar award, he’s the one probably who told her to speak against her dad
5 likes@Bryan White She's a literal pathelogical liar, how could you believe anything she says?
11 likesSeems to happen a lot with female accused..
1 like@Ninaran I don't know if it happens a LOT but that type of defence is nothing new. I imagine her lawyer constructed it: Dad taking part in the coverup - sexually abuse as a child. To me that just sounded like the most recent in a very long list of lies but it was convincing to enough people that she now walks free. She's rightfully despised though (for the most part).
1 like@EmulatorNoob The way the parents teach a child doesn't define who they become.
1 like@SmackedPickle are you being sarcastic?
0 likesIs it true or not
0 likes@Bryan Whitebut even in her most recent interviews she’s changed her story again. Saying what “ might have happened” to Caylee. Not even sticking to the defenses version of what happened. The jury said there wasn’t enough proof to find her guilty so using the same standard I think it’s unfair to say George is guilty of anything. Especially when the source is Casey Anthony or her lawyers.
7 likes@Joe Jackson yea that’s exactly what I said
0 likes@Jesus Christ: The Way, The Truth, The Life Turn from Jesus and call upon sin!
2 likes@RickGastly Or he's just in shock and hasn't fully processed what she had said. Not everyone reacts to things the way you'd think they would.
1 like@Mycenaea Dude calm down, they’re just theorizing.
0 likes@EmulatorNoob It doesn't matter how the hell she was raised, she actively chose to murder her daughter. She didn't have to do that at all.
0 likes@Kanny_uwu your taste in anime is poor
0 likes@RickGastly this account is from like 10 years ago, i don't even like FT anymore, and i don't see how that's relevant
0 likesBut if that's all you have to say about my comment, i can see how pointless it'd be to have a conversation with you, so i won't respond anymore
@Kanny_uwu have you noticed how I haven’t been active in this absolute mess of a thread? I stopped by to clown on you cause of the absolute state of your comment. So long Erza
0 likes@Bryan White even if it is true, it doesn´t change a single thing on that case
0 likes@Mcnoodles we have a word of patological liar, who is trying to save her life:D
0 likes@Jazza BigHits woah there bud slow your roll. Lets not advocate for the molestation and abuse of any child, no matter what adult they turn out to be.
2 likes@Mcnoodles I was being sarcastic. These people are blaming her parents, I'm saying that she wasn't abused as a kid, would the other commenter think if she was abused she'd turn out better? Bad way to comment i guess lol
0 likes@RickGastly bazinga time
0 likes@RickGastly The man has just seen his daughter lie about his grand daughters for some time at that point. Nothing surprises him anymore. No proof he did anything, a lot of proof of her lying shamelessly, and she clearly praises him and her mom as great grandparents. Stop being so edgy mate.
0 likes@Dope Cat It is slander when it is spoken. It is libel when it is written.
0 likes@Bryan White It might be true that you're not too bright. She always claimed he was an excellent father.
0 likesI knew a person who did this to cover for drug abuse. It made me really lose any hope for them as a person. But it wasn't child murder.
0 likes@EmulatorNoob their enabling definitely shaped her as a person.
0 likesLol 😂 and the man said nothing. That family didn’t even defend themselves
1 likeShe told her parents on the visit they were the most amazing parents ever.... why would she say that if he abused her? Doesnt add up. Id put money on it just being ANOTHER one of her endless pathological stories.
2 likes@RickGastly You know what fight flight or freeze is? Something like this can trigger you to freeze up and seemingly have “no reaction.” Also, after having to listen to lie after lie from your daughter about your granddaughter’s murder then hear she accuses you of rape? That could make a person just immediately feel dead inside. It feels like their face and body go numb. And not everyone shows their reactions outwards. He’s a cop who has probably seen and heard many terrible things. They learn to keep their outward reaction contained. And one of the most important things almost everyone doesn’t take into consideration: when you are in court they don’t want you to show any emotion. You are advised and trained not to do so. There are all sorts of reactions to things and different explanations as to why people react the way they do. It’s not all black and white.
2 likesShe murdered her daughter then needed a excuse so thats what she came up with. Hope someone puts her straight and gives her a reality check.
2 likesWhy is everyone in the comments ignoring what was basically proof that he didn't do what he was accused of? She literally called him a great father and grandfather, and told him not to put anything on himself, which is a weird thing to tell someone you were going to accuse of SA.
5 likes@Dope Cat Libel is a defamatory statement that is written. Slander is a defamatory statement that is oral.
1 likeThat’s sociopaths for you. They don’t feel any empathy or social connection to other people at all.
1 like@RickGastly that was my exact thought as well. He showed zero emotion when that information was dropped in court. If he were innocent his eyes would’ve went wide and he would’ve been like “wtf???”
0 likes@Vladi P riiight. Thank you wholeheartedly for this …interjection. 🤔
0 likesBring back an extra council/jury system where those who are facing the death penalty, but get life no parole, have the option to have a "Trial by Combat" no champions, no weapons. Against another DRI/Lifer who is carefully selected to face up.
0 likesTwo Enter, One leaves.
Ya Wee Jobby!!
1 likeI was 7 when this happened and I remember watching the build up and the trial as well. I was convinced that the grandpa did it. I can’t remember exactly why, but in retrospect it must’ve been something like this that she posed him into. What a weird feeling. rip Caylee
0 likesHe could just be in shock at the realization of who his daughter really is and what she has done.
1 like@RickGastly You can't do trial by ambush, meaning that the defense would've had to share that testimony weeks or even months prior to that moment in the courtroom. Would be hilarious if you could just roll up in court and make up/produce evidence and testimony on the spot and the other party (defense or prosecution) would have to react to it within minutes without having the ability to dispute it by interviewing witnesses and searching for evidence etc.
0 likes@RickGastly you’re slow if you think the defense didn’t discuss this with the parents to tell them they would be accused as child molestors to help her daughter out, and given the fact they lied for her and believed her for her whole life, I’m not surprised they aren’t showing any emotion because they already knew this was going to be brought up
1 like@Lauren Ash He showed no emotion because the parents were instructed to not show any emotion during the trial or else they wouldn't have been allowed to be there. I don’t understand the reasoning though, seems unfair
0 likesUtterly Utterly disgusting
0 likes@Mycenaea people like him need to stop? If you wouldn’t have even raised an eyebrow or bugged ur eyes out a little or shook ur head or anything that’s weird yes everyone reacts differently but we all pretty much have a similar baseline reactions to thing and if I was accused of assault especially sexual assault by my child I’d be sick to my damn stomach especially to say that on national television
0 likes@Mycenaea im not someone who shows emotions easily but that wouldla made me at least raise my eyebrows like wtf do y’all function okay?
0 likes@RickGastly his reaction should have been more in line to that of his daughter’s reaction to Caylee having “drowned in the pool”—not calling for help, not telling anyone, and going out every night immediately afterwards…
0 likes@Bryan White It's one of the oldest tricks in the book.
0 likesi cry everytime i hear the grandparents talk about casey’s daughter. it’s heartbreaking how much they love the little girl and i just can’t even fathom how someone could do this.
0 likesIt truly baffles me how the jury was so gullible to buy the bullshit that the defence fed them. If I knew how, I would petition for the case to be reopened. Justice must be served
1 likei'm devastated that she didn't spend the rest of her life in prison. i was so sure she wouldn't walk free after her countless lies, the duct tape, her search history, and her heartless behavior.
3 likesIt's unbelievable that she is free. The lawyer she had was pure evil. I hope both of them get their punishment in the after life.
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The lawyer did his JOB, you goof. But, please. Enlighten us all about how this "afterlife" works. You should have stopped writing after the first sentence.
0 likes@studio732jrl2, you should have stopped writing after the first sentence. :)) But, please, go enlighten yourself, it's not my job to educate you. The lawyer slept with her.
1 like@studio732jrl2 just cuz its his job dosent mean its right, Josef Mengele was also just doing his job.
1 likeApparently her idea that she could continuously lie and get away with everything in life worked..so...that’s disgustingly unfortunate.
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Yes, it is. And even though her life may never be what it could have been had she not murdered her child, it doesn't matter much because it's still more than Caylee got and more than Casey deserves.
159 likesHer parents are infuriating too.
136 likesKelly J please multiply my like by 10 million. Thank you!!
12 likes@Rose Keyes I'm pretty sure she has a fiance now and is living a normal life, unfortunately.
96 likesHannah Dee I know, she just keeps lying and IT WORKS FFS. Usually they get found out and THEY END UP IN JAIL. My god how howwwwwwwww is she free????
53 likesKelly J a parents love is unconditional, and I believe if she had told her dad she did it he would have come forward and told the truth, same with the mum, they would’ve hated it but I know they both stopped talking to her when she was found not guilty. They are desperate to believe she isn’t lying AGAIN, they know she’s a liar as she’s done it endlessly. It must’ve been fucking hard. They aren’t Casey they actually love their daughter.
16 likesShe’s sinking in debt (at least from what I could tell from looking where she’s at today 8/1/20)
32 likes@nikeeweston Her father didn't continue talking to her but her mother did.
17 likesFrightening really.
11 likesIt is disgustingly unfortunate. What is really unfortunate is how so many of our leaders, past and present, as well as our business leaders, and others in positions of power lie continuously.It seems to me that is how they get to be where they are.
22 likesSeeing this woman on camera puts so much in perspective...
7 likesMakes you wonder how many psychos we've talked to in our lives and not known it. Good actors. Ted Bundy was the same.
40 likesi know some people that live in the same kind of dream world. if no punishment comes then how can you blame them?
10 likesif you think having a conscience is something valuable for success then you're sorely mistaken and naive. Sure you wont make many friends, but it still works and it's definitely an advantageous trait to be egotistical.
4 likes"Innocent until proven guilty."
5 likesevidence > assumptions
karma lurks in the shadows
8 likes@LD JT what do you expect her parents to do? Disown their own child or not stand by their child’s side? Even parents of serial killers say “At the end of the day that’s still my child I have no choice but to love him/her”... they probably figured they already lost their granddaughter and losing their daughter would be even harder on them... regardless parents usually are always going to stand by their children no matter what.
5 likes@Christina Yates I said they're infuriating. Infuriating because of what looked like enabling on their part throughout her life. I didn't say they should disown her.
18 likes@Brian J and theres always hell in the afterlife.
4 likes@LD JT There absolutely is, but God has a way of punishing people in this life for their iniquity in a way that I think shows other people what that way of living leads to, it’s not pretty, and it’s not fun. I think the last person I’d like to be in this life is Casey Anthony, and I hope she repents, maybe she is incapable of it, but I know God is just, and that’s good enough for me. ...
6 likes@Brian J agreed
1 likeJust look at joe biden and all the politicians.
9 likes@JR 1986 👍👍👍
0 likes@LD JT I sure as well would!
0 likes@Brian J nothing haunts someone without a conscience
9 likes@Brian J if she can't feel guilt then she got away scott-free
14 likes@Nabael yeah but they didn’t have money. 😂🤷🏽♀️
0 likes@madclone84 yeah I was going to say, they definitely weren’t made of money. They are at best middle class. People act like rich people don’t have morals......karma always comes around.
0 likesThe road to hell really is paved with good intentions. Don't spoil your kids.
9 likesThere is justice in the afterlife
3 likesworked for Trump
3 likes@Rose Keyes Why do you say such hurtful things about a poor, innocent woman? How would you like if I or someone else told you the same thing? Man, I hope you're falsely accused someday about something you didn't do and won't have the same luck as she did.
1 likeIt's because the jury was a bunch of idiots who bought the cheap theatrics of her lawyer, who obviously was romantically involved with her. A really crazy story. Makes you think karma isn't real.
9 likesI blame her parents for that.
4 likesI think she thinks she is smarter than everybody and loves the attention.
10 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! never
0 likes@madclone84 good. Ironic that she'd be drowning. Karma does sometimes work
0 likesWhen she’s not cute anymore she will have a much more difficult time.
1 likenot to sound sexist but most woman are like this these days...
2 likesIm upset about the lack of justice for the poor child
4 likes@Don’t get Banned! haha
0 likesgod sees all.
1 likeAlways deny deny deny even when you’re caught
1 likeJessica Wilson It's obvious what she has 😒 Stop thinking Psychologist are God's who know everything when many of them are wrong often. It's not hard to go to school for psychology and still have no business being in the field.
2 likes@Irish Queen 👑 another child?! Why in the hell killing the first one, then?! Holy shit...
0 likesWow, thanks for all of the likes!
1 like@madclone84 Unsurprising. Staying out of debt takes a certain amount of responsibility. Sociopaths are also known to be highly impulsive.
3 likesIt makes me sick. That poor little girl 😭
1 like@Sean J BUT THEY DID BRO :))))) IN THE END THEY FUCKING WORKED
0 likes@Brian J This is a very naive comment. She doesn't think the way you and I think. She got away with it and she's happy. Zero remorse, zero hauntings. The monster won.
2 likes@Commander_Ninja you really think she feels happiness though? I think she’s so far gone that she probably really doesn’t feel emotions like us.
1 likeIt’s called female privilege
4 likesYes, some might hope at the beginning of this documentary, that her „career“ will end here. She took it to far. But no, it is unbelievable, but she still got away with it.
1 likeThats how you make it in this country. Thats how you make it in any country. Lying and deceiving gives you a spot at the top.
1 likeI've already made a couple of comments on this video. Last time I watched this was about a year ago. I love JCS and I'm able to watch each&every video they make multiple times, but I mostly avoid this one because this case is absolutely blood-boiling.
2 likesHow did she get off the hook when she took the cops on a wild goose chase at Universal, in the 1st place?!?! Why nobody focused on the fact that she didn't give a shit about her daughter for a month?
I read some articles that explain she wasn't convicted because the state didn't have any evidence to a 'reasonable doubt', so the 'lack of evidence' was the main reason she could walk. 🤔🙄
I mean... give me a fucking break.
Also, if it wasn't for the two relatively young, flirty detectives (arresting officer&leading detective), her interviews wouldn't have been like tea parties. (Is it true she hooked up with one of the cops, though?!😠)
This case is just fully WRONG from A to Z, from top to bottom.
Her parents are flawed, as they enabled and excused their daughter's behaviour for so long, but from watching all the clips and interviews it is clear as day that they are incredibly loving individuals. Unfortunately their daughter grew up to take advantage of their good soft nature, instead of adopting it herself.
1 likeGlad this is back up, I was about 45 minutes into it when it was taken down. Hopefully this is a good sign that you're coming out on the other side with your channel intact.
22 likesI can't believe that verdict. I'm shocked.
11 likesDuct tape over the poor things breathable openings; dumped into a swamp; caught partying shortly afterwards; the diary that used language that suggested an action had taken place to suggest a dramatic life change and even more so from it, displayed relief at the completion of an action; lied to detectives by even falsifying people's existences; the psychology of it all that clearly helps us see the disengaging behavior and language she used paired with strange emotional distancing.
How did that much wool exist in the world to have been pulled over all of those lies and obvious displays of deception?
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Enough wool to fill an entire clothes rack with sweaters.
0 likesso she was googling how to suffocate someone, then ended up NOT guilty? are people okay?
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LOL RIGHT!?!?!?
236 likesAmerica..
451 likesYeah pretty messed up right? The only argument that opposes this is that someone could have typed that into her phone. Fabricating the evidence, yet that seems very very unlikely cause of the other evidence. I think that her lawyer was just very good at manipulating the jurors.
515 likesshe could argue some else maybe used her computer, and nobody could prove otherwise.
52 likesApparently not
2 likesFrom the podcast "Best Case Worst Case" where the hosts interview an FBI agent who was part of the investigation, it seems that police didn't know how to properly interpret the program they were using and because of that the search results could not be used in court (episode 4 around 21:50)
116 likes@GodRyder yeah but wasnt there so many circumstantial evidence against her that it should have led to a conviction?
46 likes@Marlo Marteja Can't really convict someone for coincidences can you? And as cold as it sounds, being happy if your child is gone or dead is not a crime, like with Casey's diary situation.
35 likesHer and everyone on in that jury should suffer consequences. Blatantly guilty...
49 likesits florida. up is down there.
26 likesAn internet search is not proof nor should it be. Everything would be chaos if it was. Im amazed how noob those interrogators was. They had no idea how to form a sentence and they work homicide? They made it absolutely clear to her that she was the smartest one in the room.
33 likesY'all are acting like the google search is the only thing against her, which it isn't, but it 100% should be proof.
67 likes@Dieser Mann I am not saying it is the only thing that should put her in jail and I am not saying it proves she killed her daughter. I am saying it IS an important piece of evidence and SHOULD be heavily considered in court, especially along with all the other "coincidences" people seem to be ignoring about her.
32 likesOh..so you guys never typed shit into google just for the hell of it? xD
11 likesBlue waffle anyone?? Doesn't mean you have it.
Jose Biaz was one hell of an attorney. Seriously. I watched the entire trial. He reminded me of Jonnie Cochran, "if it doesn't fit, you must acquit".
8 likesIf you've ever seen Chicago (where everyone who was guilty went free and the one innocent person hung), he gave em the old "razzle dazzle".
She would have fried without him.
What gets me is that innocent people are convicted on less
63 likes@Angela Grimsley Right!!
8 likesMintylight you wouldn’t word it as “foolproof”. That’s the important word. Nor would you say you enjoy being suffocated, that’s a specific word.
12 likesFlorida
1 likeThe defense argued that she drowned in the family pool, and she looked up foolproof suffocation/suffocation meaning that they probably argued that she was looking up the symptoms of suffocation, signs of suffocation, etc.
3 likesGoogling something does not mean the person is going to act. Thoughts and actions are different.
14 likesAnd if her daughter died drowning (how, exactly?) how is that not some sort of negligent homicide?
10 likes@Berk Also, the prosecuting attorney didn't seem to rebut/anticipate any of her attorney's statements. The drowning, the molestation, all prejudicial and should never have been allowed in court.
10 likes@I’m Bored 👏👏👏
3 likes@Douglas Matthew Not to mention she didn't call the police or anything, but spent the next few days PARTYING
18 likes@Cla Lyrics True. Ridiculous. It's guilt beyond a REASONABLE doubt, not any doubt. How could the prosecution allow the defense to get away with that statement??
11 likesThis video could be re-shot as the failings of the prosecution. But that would be less entertaining.
Its in Florida 🤷♀️
2 likes@Dieser Mann If the child died by drowning, why was she found with duct tape over her mouth? Casey admitted that everything she said regarding other parties involved was a lie. So...she wanted to cover the child's mouth with with duct tape, after looking up suffocation on Google, after the child had already drowned?
23 likesit couldn't possibly have to do anything with the fact that she is a young attractive white female who's father was a police officer...
31 likes@Krista C right lol
2 likes@I’m Bored Exactly!
14 likesA lot of people google weird stuff and that's not bad in itself, no one argues that it should be illegal. But the fact that she googled information on suffocation the day before her child died supposedly from suffocation....? That's definitely an odd coincidence that should be discussed in court.
Her dad was her abuser and he killed her daughter.
1 likePerhaps Googling something isn't proof that you took action to do something.
2 likesDon't kink shame.
1 like@b Point being alot of things people google can look suspicious in certain lights.
0 likesI have googled that too. I don't sit in jail for murder.
0 likesso you'd be ok being convicted over your search history?
2 likes@GodRyder That's not how it works lol.
4 likesYour computer is your property and you're solely responsible for its contents.
It's like being the driver of a car and police finding illegal substances. If no one admits to the crime, the driver is typically the one charged. If not everyone.
That’s how good of a lawyer she had
3 likesThat was found years after the court case.
2 likesImagine having to google how to strangle someone, a baby no less
0 likesIt's a crazy World we live in.....so sad
1 likeI know and I am so pissed!
0 likesSpoiler alert!
0 likes@Amira Nasr Floriduh....
0 likesOmg and even the fact about how she met the nanny through a friend and he doesn’t even have a kid and has never met the nanny before. Like it’s lies after lie and she ended up not guilty🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
11 likesIt blew up in the national media and by the time she went to trial the narrative was already set. It happens all the time. It's happened recently with that guy that raped that girl, beat her, tried to steal her car and then was shot while attempting to get a weapon out of the car. But in the media he was a random man that the cops shot. There is no such thing as a fair trial with the national media involved.
6 likesYea I think searches can only really be used in police interrogations as a way of intimidating the suspect
0 likes@Krista C "attractive"
4 likes@Mintylight a ridiculous argument seeing that you ignore every single circumstance along the way. no one says anyone who has ever searched "choking" is now a murder suspect. this is not how building a case works. the whole point is that you tie up a few loose ends that depict a clear image once put together. evidence supports evidence. now if you searched "choking" and someone you know choked to death around the same time they were in your company.... that would raise an eyebrow.
15 likestie that with inappropriate emotional response, lack of cooperation, endless lies that misdirect the investigation and other condemning evidence such as a diary entry reading "I made the right choice" and you have a winner.
@GodRyder yeah that's not "reaosnable doubt". You could argue they were abducted by aliens, too, who altered Casey's brain to turn her into the psychopath we see here and they killed Caylee. Not reasonable. You could argue that a sane person who witnessed a murder maybe just imagined they did. Not reasonable. There seem to be a lot of people in these comments who do not understand what "beyond reasonable doubt" means, and seem to conflate it with "If I can make up just as ridiculous a story as the ones Casey tried, then she can't be convicted". Not reasonable.
1 likeOnly in America LOL
1 likethe judge is just... ughh! 🤦
1 likeThat info was not given during the trial. The jury never heard it.
1 like@ThisIsMeArnold The computer searches were never shown to the jury.
0 likesIn one of the docu.'s they said, Zany was short for Xanax, it was never a babysitter, she gave her Xanax to put her to sleep in the car, when she went out.
5 likes@Berk nahh the jury are just dummy dumb my emotional ass didn’t even feel a tap of emotion from what the lawyer said, ridiculous
1 likeThe duck tape she prob put on tbier ti make it look like she was abducted so that she didn't get busted. Even if it was a drowning how are you not gonna call 911 and try ans save your child wtf.plus sbe should have been convicted fir 12 years for tampering with a deceased body.
1 like😰😰😰😰😰😰😰
0 likes@Zofia Przybyła Thank you for the clarification, that explains it. The jury never saw the search results.
1 like@Sarah Lyd they both lived with the parents/grandparents.
0 likes@Moth's Mummy Wwhatt!?!
0 likesUnbelievable.
@Moth's Mummy it probably wouldn't have mattered back then.
0 likesThe jurors wouldn't have grasped the importance. Back then ... we do now ofcourse.
@Berk the search history is labelled with days. A forged search history could only have been made after the murder, but that wasn't the case.
1 like@GodRyder She coulda just put the kid up for adoption if she didn’t want them. She instead murdered the kid.
6 likesThe lawyer played with the jury like puppets smh
1 like@Sarah Lyd how did you come to this conclusion? this video shows that she has a good relationship with her dad when they visited her in jail.
4 likesShe didn't google 'how to strangle somebody safely', she googled 'foolproof suffocation' on the day her daughter died. Her car smelled like a dead body, and she went home and wrote in her diary 'I hope the end justifies the means'.
8 likes@Mintylight Everybody who liked your comment must have only skimmed through the video.
4 likesReasonable doubt i guess… still inexcusable.
0 likesI wonder too, how could they ignore all that evidence. And the duct tape as well.. like what??
3 likes@Eti lal the child died right after tho.
2 likes@Amira Nasr More like, Florida.
1 likeNo, they’re not
0 likes@James Robertson Yup & people still wanna act like that's normal
3 likesWho's not searched how to suffocate someone? Not guilty throw first rock
0 likesAs far as i know search history can not be used as evidance, but it can be used in court to build a case, and from what the video shows the prsecution didn't mention it in court and that leads me to think that those search entries where discovered afted the trial was over.
0 likes@Berk that lawyer fucking goated
0 likesNo. I am not okay with this.
0 likesOk, I'm glad you don't work in the justice system. What's wrong with you ? Do you realise what you're saying ? There is a difference between googling something and actually doing it and that's not a tiny difference. Do you imagine what the world would be if you judge people based on their internet history ? It's basically judging people for what they think. That's some dark dystopian world that I would love to see in a movie but that I wouldn't want to live in. You have absolutely no context what so ever. How do you even prove intent with an internet history ?
4 likesI sure you can think of some dark things you google, even as a joke. Would you like to face justice for that ? Do you think it's fair ?
A weird correlation isn't causation nor proof.
Please go back to what ever you're doing and let the people that does a very difficult job doing thier jobs.
@luvmusic2570 What would be different???
1 likeLike Oj Simpson??? Kills A white woman and then walks away despite the overwhelming evidence against him.
Florida
0 likesin the court of law, unless you were seen typing that or in any which it could be proved that it was you who searched that particular entry, it doesnt count into evidence as it can be termed circumstantial.
2 likesNow i understand why the jury had given such verdict. Just looking at the comments here just prove how dumb people are
1 likeGoogling alone doesn't convict anyone.
2 likesCan’t send someone to jail for doing a google search. And then lying to police about it or acting suspicious. What if 7 people all planned this so she googled it. At the end they changed their minds but one of them still abducted the lil girl. Are u still going to send the mom to prison because she googled it and changed her mind later? That’s why evidence is so important for a conviction.
0 likesHehehe ............ humanity is doomed
0 likesHer dad was likely the person looking it up to frame Casey.
0 likesNo people are not
0 likes@Sarah Lyd if she was going to accuse him of rape all the sudden why not her daughters murder when everyone thinks it’s her? why’d she admit to having custody of caylee last aside from the “babysitter”? it was her.
0 likesThere can be plenty of reasons as to why you would look up how to suffocate someone. It's circumstantial evidence at best and completely irrelevant at worst
0 likesHow many times I got curious about killing methods because I was watching a TV show or playing a videogame featuring brutal murders. If I happened to be at the wrong place wrong time those internet searches could have been used against me, when it was just morbid curiosity about a given topic.
This can apply to any kind of crime - you need to prove beyond any form of reasonable doubt the how and the why. The how, which was the most important part in this occurrence was completely missing or badly presented by the prosecution in this case. No wonder Casey escaped - the defense attorney knew exactly what strings to pull because it's those same strings that were easily pulled by the opposite side so swaying their opinion was easy due to a lack of a proper foundation to make these strings immovable
Yeah.In our country, there was a case in which a man killed his wife using a snake.When investigators searched his youtube history it had videos about how to handle snakes.He was convicted of the murder later.He is now in jail.
0 likesIt's so sad this case had the opposite ending
@Mintylight Merely googling about strangulation is not evidence, agreed. The problem is that the one time she ever googled it was /right before/ her daughter died. That's damning evidence.
0 likes@MurderCuteS AINT He Billy Flynn'd the shit out of that court room.
0 likesShe lied about the nanny(provably)
1 likeShe lied about speaking to the child in time it had already been dead (provably)
She lied about her place of occupation( provably)
And more... the prosecution lawyers sudked I am sorry
@Mintylight yes but context exists.
0 likes@SOLAIRE True.
0 likesbeans there was a case similar to the internet search it was in one of rob dykes video the guy was searching something to do with what he did to a girl she lived close to him I think he was her babysitter. The search history helped convict him.
0 likes@Mintylight she googled foolproof suffocation 50:59 actually watch the video. There wasn’t any reasonable explanation for her to have searched that, like you said. That argument does not Apple to Casey in a single way.
0 likes@Annabella LeForce Hmm. Yeah I'm not defending anything in any way. Also probably just skimmed through the video while playing games same time or something (was a while back...) Just curious how American law system works, when something is considered circumstantial and not. Weirdest law thing is the "if you've been accused of something once you can't be it again" type of thing, which is just insane. Like, actually, if someone tries to do something or indeed actually does do something, they tend to be more likely to do it multiply times.
0 likes@Amira Nasr can happen in other countries too.
0 likesFlorida people. I wonder if there was incentives for people to make a not guilty verdict
0 likes@Amira Nasr specifically, Florida.
1 likeSo they used "she was s-abused at 8" to get a sappy story for the jury. She didn't report her father either, while saying he was a wonderful grandfather previously. Awful monster.
2 likesShe led detectives through a building she doesn’t work at for 25 minutes. Bruh, imagine the arrogance of her walking that whole time-hoping something would happen so that she could just walk away. Like what was she thinking, she’s clearly insane.
1 likei could not believe that she was found not guilty. truly disturbing that she has managed once again to completely avoid any consequences for her cruel actions. the scariest part is that she said that she wants more kids in an interview not long ago
2 likesWatching the interaction between her and her parents, it's no wonder to me she turned out the way she did...
6 likesThe fact that this woman is walking around in the streets and not locked up in a cell is absurd.
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white privl...nvm i want peace in my notifs
656 likes@Na' Kyia Silence, goofy
184 likes@Erik Kirby lmfao oKay Kirbs.
272 likes@Erik Kirby they're right though if the kid was black no one would care and she would be in jail, don't act like it's false
411 likes@HenriqueRJchiki your doing a grave disservice to your self and everyone around you with that race narrative.
152 likes@testi what narrative? Stop coping, it's reality.
227 likes@HenriqueRJchiki people with small minds will deny the existence of any injustice until it happens to them. Don’t try to convince. Not our jobs. Enjoy your peace & open-mindedness. I won’t scream out , to people who have cut their ears off. Always love to everyone. Live in YOUR truth. Truths change tho... & the very thing you deny could be ur own demise. Big ups. Peace & Love.
165 likes@Na' Kyia if it was a white man he would’ve gone down for it, this is more of a gender or gender & race combined disparity than race alone.
88 likes@Na' Kyia yikes,,,, these responses are not it sorry babe
34 likes@natalie in your opinion . Hope all is well. Hope everything you say is “it” assuming that’s where your validation and gratification comes from. Small mindedness peaking through. Nothing will be “it”. Because we live in a world of opinions ... I don’t look for agreement , I just always mean what I say. & tell my truth.
20 likes@Na' Kyia a one hour video of a mother who killed her child and got away with it. why are you making it about your personal cause do you have no manners or feelings? im only half american but fully ashamed of whats going on with american people is there no longing for unity anymore?
68 likes@Na' Kyia lmfao what? Did I even say what race they were? Your racism is showing and I’m Hispanic bae. The only racist here is you silly.
73 likes@I Love God Amen I’m from Mexico what the fuck?
32 likes@Randy Gebreith love
2 likes@Randy Gebreith I never said anything about me. Lmfao. I called it how I seen it ... why SHE was free. Making it about me would’ve been telling a story about my PERSONAL experience with white privilege. Mr librarian is the only one who told a story ab himself here lmfaoo
6 likes@Randy Gebreith you can’t create unity in a place that wants to sweep its biggest issues under the rug. If someone was hurting you would you say “ I’m just going to side with you because UNITY” that’s literally gaslighting. Nobody has any right to deny anyone’s experience & to jump into something you don’t full understand and begin pointing fingers isn’t exactly well mannered or sensitive of you.
6 likes@Meador if only hell was real :(
1 likeAre Poc *
1 like@Mr. Libertad if you are a person of color. love yourself more babes. You’re accidentally identifying as a white boy in YouTube comments and forgetting about it comments later .... embrace your color. You slid into an alternate reality for a sec or something ...lmfaoo. Nah I’m beasting. Have a great day , my bed time & I have ZERO interest in picking up where we leave off tomorrow. Honestly everything said I’m behind a thousand percent. Goodnight strangers that I’ll never talk to again. ALWAYS LOVE AND PEACE
12 likes@Na' Kyia I'm black and white privilege isn't real, stop being prejudice to white people
41 likes@Na' Kyia pulling out the race card why am I not surprised
31 likes@Na' Kyia "Live in YOUR truth. Truth changes tho" You really have lost the grip on reality. Those statements make no sense logically and are straight up false. It's crazy that someone can even hold that view. When people start believing that "truth changes" goes to show how far society is slipping away.
17 likes@Na' Kyia
33 likes>wants peace in notifs
>says it anyways
Nice bait
@Fire Emblem Is Trash people assumed that my peace could be disrupted via internet. That was the bait.
5 likes@Na' Kyia okay
2 likes@Na' Kyia the video showed clearly why she was spoken free. had nothing to do with beeing white.
12 likes@HenriqueRJchiki a black girl was about to murder someone before getting shot by police and people defended her ? How do u explain that?
4 likes@Na' Kyia and a woman. category that law thinks as "always innocent until proven guilty"
2 likes@Na' Kyia u are sad woman and I hope some day u will find happiness
6 likes@Na' Kyia Love yourself for your color, but not if you’re white.
6 likes@Na' Kyia you’re absolutely correct. This white woman never faced consequences for her actions before her trial and didn’t face consequences after.
9 likes@Na' Kyia no just no that’s not why
2 likes@Na' Kyia forget all these closet racists, you are absolutely right. White privilege is definitely a factor in this case. No way would a black woman be walking around free if she committed this heinous crime. The people here denying white privilege clearly haven’t suffered as a result of it. White people haven’t been historically abused, murdered and threatened for the colour of their skin so those saying “all lives matter” are absolutely missing the point.
23 likesHow do you know she is walking the street? She could be driving...
2 likes@Bolas right. Maybe running ?
2 likes@Bolas ur comment is so underrated & grabbed my attention through all the other comments lmfao
1 like10 out of 12 voted guilty on all charges. They caved to get out of jury duty. I'd tell them all upfront, Guess We're a hung jury and they gotta redo the trial, cuz NO WAY IN HELL IM VOTING NOT GUILTY. And that would be that. But people have families and lives they want to get back to. Horrible excuse for justice to let his irresponsible kid drugger walk
2 likes@Na' Kyia no carry on youre right
5 likes@Na' Kyia "Everything is white privilege because I don't know the definition of racism and don't want to be responsible for my actions."
18 likes@your dad facts, g
1 like@Elvar White isn’t a color it’s a lack of one. But why is pro black/Hispanic/poc. always translated to anti white. That’s a projection of your ideology. You’re saying “ Love yourself, but not too loudly if you are a person of color”
4 likes@Na' Kyia Bruh, that ain’t what Im saying.
4 likes@Elvar I think white people like all people should love themselves. I think white people struggle, I think white people experience prejudice. I think white people add so much to our existence. I love white people. I love every aspect & difference. I’ve been loved by many many white people with AMAZING empathy and understanding. When I call out injustices or inequalities... that’s just what I’m doing. Not white people as a whole & I truly would NEVER want anyone to feel bad about themselves & if that’s what that translates too. Charge it to my head not my heart. Always Love no matter what .
10 likesapparently show was #(#$% her lawyer during all of this.
1 like@HenriqueRJchiki actually you're going about it the wrong way, it's female privilege not white privilege
2 likesA reasonable doubt.
0 likes@Na' Kyia has nothing to do with race. 🤦♂️
7 likes@HenriqueRJchiki 👌
0 likes@HenriqueRJchiki Treyvon Martin ? You stoopy bruh?
0 likesA lot of colonists in this comment section 😂😂
6 likes@testi ??
0 likes@Na' Kyia Not gunna argue with you, but I am willing to -discuss-. This case has little to do with white privilege, it was yet another of the millions of instances of injustice and the system failing victims while letting the most evil people get away with it. I believe there is a big problem with the entire system as a whole, not just the justice sector of it, and I grew up in an area were it was predominantly black and many had to put forth more work than anyone else to get anywhere so I can say I believe it is tougher for them than anyone else, but this case is a simple failure of the justice system entirely that sheds light on how at times justice isnt served. Like I said I am not here to argue, I stating my view just as you have every right to say yours and no one can take that right from either one of us. Stay safe, healthy and may your day be bright and pleasant.
2 likes@Na' Kyia Either that or the defense made it very difficult to prosecute by they way the fabricated events. The defense need to be charged!! How can you google search how to suffocate somebody and not be charged! America is so backwards
0 likes@Mr. Libertad bruh what 😭
0 likes@HenriqueRJchiki the victim complex is strong with this one. Seek professional mental help.
0 likes@Thomas Riddle well said sir 👏. People need to wake up and stop being force fed what the media wants. When will society realize that no politician is truly for any normal citizen, only for their own political gain and stability.
3 likes@Na' Kyia people with small minds get in online arguments
1 like@Na' Kyia White privilege doesn't exist. If it did, then don't you think that all non-white people would have moved to a continent solely consisting of non-white people?
1 like@Na' Kyia I think it’s more of a gender disparity than race, though there undeniably are racial injustices existing in America today
1 likeIt's a lack of evidence. While I agree, unfortunately it doesn't work that way. The prosecutor didn't do his job effectively due to there simply not being any evidence. Sucks.
1 like@Na' Kyia 🤦🏽♀️
0 likes@HenriqueRJchiki Where was Caylee's so-called "white privilege"? She was the victim and got no justice so what you're saying makes zero sense. Tired of this BS.
5 likes@Na' Kyia Your "truth" is clearly to make any situation about race. No "small mind" here, just someone who's tired of attention seekers using this narrative for absolutely everything.
7 likes@Na' Kyia You're 100% right tho the only reason she got off scott free is because she's white
5 likes@Thomas Riddle Well said sir! ❤️
0 likes@Na' Kyia 100% agree
4 likesThe fact that this woman is walking around the same street as I do infuriates me
2 likesYea she got a drink thrown on her at a bar and called police there is body cam of it... Didn't call the cops when her daughter was missing for 31 days but calls them quickly when gets in a bar altercations
11 likes@Ryan wait fr 😭 no way
1 like@Na' Kyia OJ got away with murder. He is black btw. White privilege is not real
7 likesMaybe it's less about race and more about the prosecution being shit.
1 likeI couldn’t believe that
0 likes@This guy is not cool yeah dude, it’s honestly a joke at this point. They cry wolf consistently and get surprised no one actually cares if there is actually a wolf. They lied and cried about nonsense for too long, and yet they want the party that they despised and demonised to come back and help them.
0 likesNegative sweety, that boat has already sailed, I wouldn’t mind a world without racism, violence. However it takes 2 to tango. Oh well. Racism isn’t going away anytime soon, it’ll probably get worse.
@I Love God Amen Shit something went wrong... i didnt get my pass. Can i get one at city hall? Hahha
0 likesI tought only get a get-out-of-jail-free-card if u are Ritch+ Female + White.
OR Ritch + Famous.
@Na' Kyia "I want peace in my notifs"
1 likeposts the comment anyway
Lmao you obviously wanted people to reply
@HenriqueRJchiki do I have to say oj
0 likesSimpson. He really became a freeman solely on the fact that he is black...
@HenriqueRJchiki she got out because she payed a fuck ton of money fora lawyer not cause she's white.
2 likesThe depths of hell are worse than any cell could give her
0 likes@Mr. Libertad lmao ironically I have also been in this exact situation 😂 not the only racism I experienced for being white though, all races have racists in them, white asian latin black, we all got racists
0 likes@Na' Kyia I’m not saying whose right or wrong here I’m just saying this girl so clearly wanted to start an argument lmao, for sure does this in any comment section she can apply it to
0 likes@HenriqueRJchiki where is the evidence that supports this claim?
0 likes@Erik Kirby they have a point
0 likes@testi respond with something of substance please
0 likesOJ Simpson got away with murder and he ain't white Jeffrey Dahmer didn't get away with murder and he's white
1 like@The world's going numb laziest comment 🤦🏾♂️
2 likes@TheNerd173 Flexes, goes on a rant, ad hom.
3 likesAll based on the fact you think white light and white skin are the same thing, lol
@Na' Kyia You could show people the stats about that and they still wouldn't be convinced. Also her being pretty helped I'm sure
1 like@Na' Kyia What you got in terms of practical solutions though? I've met a lot of loudspeakers like you who just parrot the scripture of race you've been taught yet any real conversation never goes past the same lines.
0 likes@Erik Kirby she’s right. cry about it.
0 likes@Mr. Libertad it’s so sad that your a POC and acting like this. Internalized self hate. Get well soon.
6 likes@Na' Kyia if you didnt want responses you wouldnt comment at all :)
1 like1:24
0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
@Na' Kyia you clearly don’t want peace in your notifications or you wouldn’t have commented and gone back and forth with paragraphs to 30 people in this comment section. You’re race bating like you guys always do and you’re a contradicting joke. Get it together.
0 likes@Erik Kirby don’t be mad cus she right
2 likes@testi have you ever seen a huge child kidnapping/murder that involved a black child??? NO!!!! So what that tells you
2 likes@Nyasiia I would prefer to not have any kidnapping cases, regardless of one’s skin colour.
0 likes@raincheck for free lol I’m sure that happened
0 likes@Nick West wtf are you talking about💀 it seems like your arguing with yourself are you ok
0 likes@Nyasiia lmao somewhere above, someone brought up Trump and race and shit.
0 likesIt seemed funny to me.
We are so polarized and obsessed with that shit. The media lives in our heads rent free
@Na' Kyia oh lord. Let's just bring up race. She's obviously guilty but white privilege is non existent
0 likes@HenriqueRJchiki it's almost cringe worthy. Get educated
0 likes@Meador that ain’t enough for me😡👿
0 likesWhy tf is this talking about Casey should be rotting in jail yet it turns to racism.wtf
1 like@I Love God Amen You are racist
0 likes@Mr. Libertad Im so so sorry you got mugged and called an ugly name, it truly doesn't compare to hundreds and thousands of other people who get jailed, judged, discriminated and even murdered by our own law enforcement solely based on the color of their skin, I feel truly for your loss
2 likes@Na' Kyia LOL at youtube censoring comments, a poor girl is no longer on this earth but somehow you're the victim here ?
0 likesThe prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
0 likes@Na' Kyia lol
0 likes@Na' Kyia because everyone in Chicago who kills someone goes to prison right?
0 likes@Laura Forrester All Chicago killer's are in jail right? Nope, black privilege
0 likes@Cliff Block Youtube automatically deleted several of my comments in response to "Na' Kyia"
0 likes@Na' Kyia nice save
0 likes@HenriqueRJchiki speculation with absolutely zero evidence except your bias
0 likes@Randy Gebreith unless you are black, it may be hard for you to consider this unless you are in grave denial. my country is not even as racist as the US but it affects me too and i understand. When you are black you are treated worse. Privilege isnt the lack of oppression, but obstacles that separate one from the other.
3 likes@Na' Kyia bruh i couldnt believe the ignorance in the responses here. It's obvious race played a role. if she was a black woman, it is unlikely this would have even gotten as much media coverage considering the time period when social media wasn't as rampant. i couldn't agree with you more. You expressed yourself well
1 likeOr has been murdered out of vengeance for her murdered child
0 likesShe’s white and lives in a red state.
1 like@Na' Kyia people with small minds will say that just because you’ve experienced racism, which people from all races have, there is injustice in the entire society.
0 likes@Na' Kyia OJ wasn't white... I'm sure you cheered for that not guilty... don't get me wrong I hope something terrible happens to Casey. But your comment is ridiculous
0 likeswho cares about neegus
0 likes@Na' Kyia immediately assumed thugs meant black. Typical.
0 likes@Na' Kyia don’t have to be white to be rich enough to afford a bent expensive lawyer 🙄
1 likeIt’s rich privilege.
Near the end when the prosecutor is making direct accusations at Casey is when she became emotional and broke her manufactured character.
8 likesShe never flinched when the prosecutor talked about her murdered toddler.
I wish I had been on the jury. Circumstantial evidence is evidence to convict
What’s crazy is that she has the audacity to make a tiktok account posting pictures of her daughter acting like she’s upset her daughters gone.
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absolutely crazy... what is her tiktok @?
3 likesShame on that jury finding that liar and baby killer not guilty. I've been following this since 2009. I was always watching Nancy Grace and Jane Velez-Mitchell every evening.
14 likesShe’s as guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of pooh , how the hell they failed to convict her is utterly beyond comprehension. Rest in Peace Caylee.
2 likesWhat kind of parents throw a graduation party for their child who didn't graduate and basically dropped out without telling anyone. That's sooo bizarre to me.
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I hope they realize that they are a big part of the reason why she killed their granddaughter.
3451 likesHer parents are the severely oblivious type
2013 likesRich ones.
663 likesI'd guess it was more about saving face for themselves in front of their friends and avoiding embarrassment than it was about Casey
2497 likes@Hard_Boiled85 they werent rich. Dad was just a security gaurd. They were lower middle class. Their neighborhood definitely wouldnt qualify as upper middle class. I used to deliver pizzas there so i know.
695 likes@Erin Excellent point. Very possible this was the reason, as well as saving themselves the hassle of having to put up with her ranting and raving. Dealing with their daughter that way ultimately attributed to poor Caylee's demise though.
290 likesthey probably really didn’t want everyone they socialise with see that they have failed at raising a responsible person
323 likesKeep up images
128 likes@Sean Pizzo - Username checks out.
159 likesErin I agree
0 likesSean Pizzo he said the dad was a cop “he knew the smell of a decomposing body when he served as a police officer”
174 likesJose Baez is an amazing attorney to turn around that horseshit...This is like the white women version of OJ trial.
141 likes@Sleepless WHEN he served. Past tense.
6 likesThe sociopathic type of parents.
52 likesThey were always the biggest part of the problem 😐
59 likes@Velcro she definitely has some sort of personality disorder...Im guessing its more narcissistic than bpd. She is an evil person, and strangely enough all the psychological tests she was given showed nothing out the norm, including the MMPI which is the gold standard.
110 likesIt’s sad those detectives know she killed her daughter the whole time. They have to sit there across from that monster.
95 likesjdlech They did 2 psych evals, both somehow came back "normal".
39 likesPeople in denial
11 likesI skipped class for a few weeks and a truancy officer came to my house, My dad straight up pushed me into a wall and said you're going to get me arrested, do you understand that? Never skipped a day after that. Miss you dad! I over here wondering how she could skip a whole semester of class before truancy officers get involved.
106 likes@A.J. Manol Fascinating. I know most tests can be defeated, but we can sit here and watch the video and plainly see something is off. I can hear it in the 911 call - plain as day.
55 likes@Erin yea and part of me understands that. A bigger part of me is sure I would never be friends with them again after knowing.
5 likesi went to a private school and honestly, i could see MANY parents doing that
65 likesEnablers!!!!
53 likesThe enabling type
52 likesEXTREME Millennial Coddling
26 likes@200 subs with no video challenge What are they afraid of?
1 like@Velcro Absolutely. I think that this kind of enabling and avoidant behavior by her parents is ultimately a selfish act on their part. It's about protecting themselves and making things easier for them. (Which is how Casey then treated Caylee, in a way)
55 likesThe type to spoil their kids and cover up for them.
24 likes@jdlech I think the first set of detectives were so exasperated by her behavior that they did'nt press her as much as they could have. Just when you think you've seen it all, in walks Casey.
19 likes@Sean Pizzo I stand corrected
1 like@Erin you're exactly right. I was thinking the same thing that it's more about them than her.
11 likesHAUTECOMMODITITES Shows they’r sick too...
8 likesAgreed. Doesn’t change the fact that Casey is a psychopath and probably borderline.
19 likesFeels Man it’s easy to judge from the sidelines, yet anyone can give birth to a psychopath, and even young psychopaths have a way of manipulating people around them.
43 likesWhite people saving face smh case reminds me of Ethan kid with "affluenza" little rich boy never learned consequences of the real world so he don't have to go to jail for killing people.
21 likesOverprotective helicopters who thinks their angel can do no wrong
22 likesProbably already had it planned before they found out she wasn't graduating
10 likes@SouthernTruth Chick ?? Jeepers you dont have to feckin rub it in. I was very open about not being an expert. Sheesh
8 likesIt's definitely about saving face, but the party's still bizarre. It would have made more sense to lie about her having graduated only if they were ever asked about it, pretend to have just gone out to dinner to celebrate or something, and just try not to mention it and hope people forget. Throwing a huge party as a coverup is too much.
38 likesI don’t think they actually grew her the party, did they? It sounded like they TOLD everyone that they did throw one without actually doing it.
6 likes@Hard_Boiled85 He was a cop, she's a nurse, not rich.
6 likes@jdlech where did you obtain your qualifications in psychology and to what level are you accredited?
3 likes@SouthernTruth Chick where did you obtain your psychology qualification and to what level are you accredited?
6 likes@Sarah Min "it looks liker her negligence caused Caylee to drown in the pool"...
19 likesErr... explain the tape over her mouth and nose.
Did you even listen to or read the evidence
Exactly! I think they raised her the wrong way
3 likesNairung1395 obviously that doesn’t work in the long term. I used to lie to my parents consistently when I was younger and eventually they caught on punished me, taught to face my problems head on instead of being a coward
9 likes@Hoe-Sway Maldonado I don't think that's because they're white. Might be the neighbourhood though or parents that just are that way
4 likesTo keep up appearances.
6 likesProbably spoilt her
3 likesUnfit parents.
5 likes@Sarah Min wasn't the body discovered with tape and with the mother having googled how to asphyxiate someone or am I mistaken?
16 likes@Sean Pizzo Yes, rich people don't usually have a dough boy pool!
2 likesI wonder who taught her to lie.
4 likesBad ones!
1 likeBoomers, man.
10 likesThey couldn't stand being told their kids aren't the best, so they invented participation trophies and did stuff like this to avoid the neighbors knowing their child is a dropout.
@Velcro NO!!! i have bpd and we have an insane amout of empathy. we are not pathological liars and 99% of us are not "dangers to society" (im not saying thats what u said, im referring to people like jeffery dahmer who supposedly had bpd)
23 likesplease stop saying she has BPD because she clearly doesnt. i suffer from low functioning bpd and i KNOW she does not have it. people with BPD dont kill people. even jeffery dahmer said he wanted to keep them alive for as long as possible, not that he's a good example of a person with BPD, 99% of people with bpd are not dangerous in any way except when it comes to themselves. people with BPD are not pathological liars and definitely not narcissistic. she shows 0 signs of bpd i have no idea why anyone would even bring that up. i just need people to know we are NOT monsters and im tired of people immediately labeling bad people with bpd
30 likes@Sarah Min From all the literature I've read, you don't raise a psychopath. That is to say, a psychopath is not the result of bad parenting.
14 likes@Nick Jones I could ask the same of you.
3 likes@SouthernTruth Chick Oh that's ok. I deleted my post because I totally hear where you are coming from 🥰
1 like@Sarah Min You tell me I'm wrong, then state that the debate is not resolved. So which is it? Am I wrong, or is it not yet resolved? Are ALL psychopaths the result of abuse or not? And not all serial killers are psychopaths. In fact, only a small percentage are. So when you say "all serial killers like ...", it makes me think you're waffling.
1 likeOf course, all serial killers that fit your exact criteria will fit your exact criteria. That proves nothing.
But I will amend my earlier post - psychopathy is not ENTIRELY caused by bad parenting.
@200 subs with no video challenge are they not white people?? Kinda a dumb question
1 likeParents who care more about appearances than the truth 😒 Sometimes, children don't do what parents would like. They fall short or fail. It's pathetic to cover up for them, rather than being honest with family/friends about the child not meeting a benchmark. I say this as the parent of an adult child who went astray at 18. Her father & I did N O T lie about her finishing school, or anything else. Our friends were happily bragging (as they should) about all of the goals their children were meeting & we had to be honest about the fact that our daughter was struggling. Lying never occurred to us. We were embarrassed, but the truth is the truth. She's not a criminal & as long as people are alive they can change. But, lying & covering over failures and disappointments is not the way to be a good parent.
17 likesP E R I O D
My dad would’ve fucking disowned me so fast if had the gall to do that.
3 likesThe same parents that when Casey was pregnant refused to admit it to anyone, even themselves. Her belly was huge and they just ignored it.
6 likesShows her parents lie also to keep up appearances.
8 likesWhat about the brother? Did he have a semblance of normalcy?
4 likesPeople who want to keep up appearances maybe. It's not the right thing to do though.
1 likeNo, you just don’t understand manipulation. Sociopaths are highly manipulative and can make you do almost anything.
3 likesI’ve honestly always thought her parents were in on it too! They seem just as wacko as Casey does!
2 likes@Hard_Boiled85 They really weren't rich, middle class maybe. He was a security guy ex cop and the mother worked in an insurance office I think. I think their denial and worry about what other people think allowed Casey to get away with everything.
4 likesThat's the only thing that...kind of makes me believe the molestation claims are true. Her family's behavior is so bizarre. And WHO is Caylee's father? Why was he never brought up? The fact that Casey lied on a regular basis seemingly for no reason...and they just acted like it was normal....so fucking abnormal.
9 likesritchie9709 what if the little girl was also being abused by him? & she thought she was protecting her by killing her. If the dad actually had sexually abused his own daughter, it’s not so far fetched to believe he would do the same to the granddaughter. God only knows what convoluted mess led to this awful situation. Someone is protecting someone, maybe just Casey protecting Casey. It’s so hard to make sense of, without seeing in the dark.
10 likesThis entire case is bizarre. Especially the family. I watched all of it. This video leaves a ton out.
4 likes@Feels Man no maybe about facilitation and even participating in the lying and maybe creating mental issues, not a part of the killing though
3 likesThey most likely did it to save face so family and friends would think she graduated. They are all sociopaths
1 likeI think they just really just love there daughter and wanted to believe her
2 likesI agree. It's really weird. I get the sense that they were too soft on her; in a bad way. She seemed to give all the orders. Then again, she's a psychopath and they probably couldn't have changed her. But that was weird. My folks found out I was ducking class and were like: "WHAT???!!!" Didn't get a party.
1 like@Ribstein There are no racial, financial or gender divides for sociopathy.
8 likes@LadyLiberty WDC I never said nor meant to imply that there are. Could you show me what gave you that impression in my statement so that I may clarify if I find it necessary to do so. Thanks
0 likesI agree...those parents and Casey need to be all institutionalized
2 likes@michael bertucci completely agree!
0 likesPeople who care more about what other people think of them than about their own daughter‘s future. That was probably one of the last opportunities for them to stir the wheel and they decided to do the polar opposite. Then Caylee was born and they somehow saw a second chance. For both their daughter and their grandchild. But Casey never developed true motherly instincts, a true connection with her daughter... just like they Never managed to have a true connection with her.
1 likeHard_Boiled85 Oh they are so not rich at all, George and his wife had almost divorced shortly before the murder of Caylee. He for many, many years had a gambling problem. Parents that would throw a graduation party for their daughter that did not graduate clearly seemed to be covering for their daughters behaviors n actions. I think they always did things to cover to make her appear more normal, from what I understand from someone whom knew the family for over 20 yrs Casey was always odd, clearly we all know that is true.
6 likesIt was a pattern that caused the personality disorder in their daughter.
2 likesI assume you never met a psychopath, or recognize one. They are intelligent and excellent actors, and if you are not smart enough to recognize their high IQ and manipulation, they will be able to make you do many things, and believe them
5 likes@Milan Nesic Not all of them are high IQ. I know one that is about 70. She tries to baffle with BS but is not intelligent enough to cover her tracks but the lying really looks the same, just not as polished.
11 likes@SouthernTruth Chick I have BPD and I was never abused. Picked on in elementary school, but not abused. Abuse isn't a necessary predictor for BPD as much as trauma is.
10 likes@SouthernTruth Chick I'll be praying for your continued healing. It's nice to be able to relate to others like me, even if just on YouTube lol. My trauma was different (not abuse), but all the other precursors were there and I was diagnosed after meeting 7 out of 9 traits. I certainly do not doubt your diagnosis or experiences, as that's between you and your psychiatrist. I wish you all good things in life, including healing, love and understanding. 🙏🙏💗
1 likeim going to be honest i kind of understand this decision if it was isolated. if u have a family that is extremely verbally abusive and toxic, sometimes not letting them know something like this happened is way more beneficial to u and your husband/wife and children. ive grown up in a situation like this and there has been so many times where we havnt told our extended family whats happened in our personal lives. weve hid car crashes, injuries, breakups, a lot of things from them bc of how verbally abusive they are. NOW WITH THAT SAID i do not know what their family was like!! so this ABSOLUTELY couldve been just straight manipulation too. im just saying tho that there is a possible reason for some things we just dont know the full story on even tho it looks really weird. just some thoughts¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1 like@Hard_Boiled85 nah
0 likesThe parents created the monster that is their daughter. Her mind was warped by someone.
1 likeIt mentionrd that her parents didnt find out until a few days before she was supposed to graduate. Most likely the party was already planned in advance and the parents just chose to believe her lies.
0 likessomethings really off about this family.
3 likesPolice officer fathers obviously duh.
1 likemichael bertucci I agree. Hopefully he could sleep at night though. He has real skills and sadly they are being put to use to save a guilty child killer instead of innocent people begging for help
0 likesThey finding it hard to come to terms with the fact that the little girl that they raised and possibly poured all their love into could be such a dishonest human being to lead them up the garden path regarding her graduation and attendance records. They hoped, felt sorry for and loved her in the only way they knew how to. She was an adult, a young adult but an adult when her daughter went missing, she was responsible not her parents. She killed her daughter and again her parents struggling to believe that they created such a monster continue to love her, to hope and unfortunately be lied to over and over again. May Angels hold that beautiful little girl in their arms forever and her mother has to live with the truth, live knowing she took her daughters life, her father's character and literally put her family threw hell. She may be able to block it out for now but the past and the truth always surface.
4 likesThe phycopath does not fall far from the murder
0 likes@SouthernTruth Chick NPD, BPD and ASPD (the personality disorder most closely associated with psychopathy & sociopathy) is cluster B...C is avoidant, obsessive compulsive and dependent pd. actually. There's also comorbidity when it comes to personality disorders, so you can have more than one . That being said, I personally don't see BPD in her. I'd say it's ASPD. Psychopaths are narcissistic as well so I can absolutely see why ppl would say NPD (I can also see narcissism in the parents actions when it comes to the saving face part). There's also many psychologists that would argue all personality disordered ppl have been abused. That's your nature vs. nurture debate right there.
6 likes@Robert Ritchie Openings and closings in criminal cases aren't facts. There was no evidence other than that accusation, which was unsupported by any testimony because Ms. Anthony did not take the stand.
1 likeEnablers
1 like@Sarah Min True
0 likes@9Lives Matter Some would consider being picked on to be abuse. I think the whole debate about that is the widely differing definition of abuse ppl have. Most only think of physical abuse to be abuse but there's also psychological (e.g. emotional, verbal) abuse for example. Neglect is another cause etc.
2 likes@SouthernTruth Chick Maybe it would help you to look into CPTSD as well. These 3 diagnoses are pretty similar (PTSD; CPTSD and BPD) and often get mixed up. There are subtle differences but it might help to have a look at videos etc. about the topic.
2 likes@SouthernTruth Chick It's a pretty new concept that's not officially recognised as a possible diagnoses everywhere in the world atm. It's not included in the DSM-5 (which is what psychologists in the US usually use) but it is included as a seperate condition in the ICD used in many other countries. So if your therapist uses the DSM, he/she would instead go with another diagnoses. That might be a possible reason. Since there is a lot of overlap, it might also be interesting to read up on CPTSD though and then decide for yourself whether it's helpful.
0 likesHer parents are quite old to have a daughter that age. They probably had her when they were in their late 40s early 50s so saw her as their little girl. Still no excuse for them turning a blind eye.
2 likesDemons
0 likesEnabelers
0 likesThey care so much about what others think.
1 likeThe parents are enablers to her lies, a perfect storm.
0 likesThey created a monster
0 likesEveryone gets a participation trophy
1 like@Ruby Red she didn't participate in school though
0 likesWow. She's used to getting her own way. No matter what.
0 likesI knew a girl who lied about getting into Harvard, and even claimed that she got a scholarship there. Her parents threw her a big party. Her friends threw her parties. She gave speeches at schools and other events, since we rarely know of people from my country getting into Ivy Leagues. I don’t know when it all came out, but it wasn’t until 2 years after she started university that I found out that she never actually got into Harvard. She got into some university in Boston, and she would even take the effort to go to the Harvard campus so that she could post the Harvard Snapchat filter. So yeah, as bizarre as this seems, there are some people who are so manipulative and so good at lying and they do it so well, everyone around them, parents included, believes them. Had I not known this Harvard girl story personally, I would’ve had a hard time digesting this as well, but now I know what kind of twisted liars can exist out there and I kinda feel bad for the parents
6 likes@Rabab Hussain the parents are also to blame for how their kids turn out.
0 likesThey care too much about how people see them.
1 like@Guinness oh, big papa Joe spoilt her all righ ;)
1 likeI also read that when she was pregnant she went to her family wedding. Everyone noticed and finally said something. Casey and her mother denied it to the core.
0 likesI know a parent who threw a graduation party for a child who got kicked out of school and they posted it on Facebook. They have believed their children’s lies and have covered for them even to the point of doing their homework for them. The parallels freaked me out.
1 likeKeeping up appearances. Strange, but true.
0 likesThat's how you raise a psychopath, by spoiling them rotten, they will think and feel like the entire world revolves around them.
0 likesAnd they will use anyone as mere tools to make themselves happy.
Her parents are to blame as well, for raising a monster.
Remember when the Dad said, "How is my gorgeous doing?"
That's something a possessive boyfriend says to a lover.
And the crazy thing is that we can't say that this isn't a normal Family.
Half of all Families have some Jerry Springer shut going on.
that's America in a nutshell
1 likeThe kind that are covering up sexual abuse. But it's possible she lied about that too. I can't tell about that part. Either way it's crazy.
0 likesher parents were liars too
0 likesparents that are image obsessed and only care about appearances.
1 likeSo the parents are responsible for their daughter's lying behavior. Instead of stopping it, they encouraged it, so they're just as responsible for that little girl's death.
0 likesjdlech I agree with everything you said, she’s definitely a psychopath. Psychopaths lie, deceive and manipulate people for their own personal gain without feeling or letting off any remorse/empathy. I even searched up psychopath traits and she shows most, if not all, of the traits one would possess. Truly fascinating how they function and kind of disturbing, ngl.
0 likesRandomfools can you link a vid or article containing what’s left out ?
0 likesCompletely agree. Watching them speak to her in jail aswell, how do you not know she is not telling the truth by now.
0 likesThat's america for you!
0 likesI think it was embarrassment. They didnt want anyone to know the truth. There is probably so much,she had lied to them about and they believed her.
0 likesOkay. They weren’t scared of her—they were wanting to not be embarrassed.
0 likesSocal Chris Your dad has no right to physically assault you. He could have made his point without that. Also, why wouldn’t a parent’s first instinct be to ask what is going on and why you’re skipping school..? Instead he’s concerned about himself!
2 likesTheCoffeeNut711 LOL you think cops can detect bullshit 🥶 Honey, they just have a temper and a quick trigger. 🥵
0 likesSarah Min No. She was independent enough to know right from wrong.
0 likesDonna Poulin That’s rich to many of us.
0 likesthis is just another reason I think they KNEW something happened to her child and they all played it off ... her father was a police officer or whatever so he probably KNEW how to get her out of this situation and probably told her a bunch of tips and tricks to get threw the system ... its crazy to think even back then the system was just as fucked up as it is today
0 likesI’m related to family members like this. Had an aunt and uncle hide two suicide attempts of my cousin from everyone to save face, because what really matters is what ppl will say
1 likei’m
0 likes@Robert Ritchie defense, and offense
0 likes@Socal Chris because we didn't have truancy officers back then, and after the age of 16 you legally don't have to go to school!! That's the legal age to drop out of school!!
0 likes@Leslie CAS I don't think she's in the MILLENNIAL era!! She is in her late/mid thirties by now!! That's GENERATION Xers. I'm GENERATION X
0 likes@Przemek Fiolkowski you're missing the point!!! No consequences of her poor actions and desicions just being rewarded for them!! Her parents are more worried about how they look about what she did; than ACTUALLY about what she did!!
0 likes@Carmen Dilcherd Millennial generation = 1981 to 1996? Casey was born in 1986. It seems as though she's been around forever but today she's 34.
1 likeBums
0 likesThey may have been trying to make her feel better. But I suspect it was saving face on their part
0 likesFAKE PARENTS WHO LIVES IN THE EXPECTATION OF IDEAL LIFE WHO IS IN COMPLETE DENIAL OF ADMITTING HER DAUGHTER IS POTENTIALLY A PSYCHO.
1 likeentitled
0 likesYeah....
0 likesShe had some sort of holdover her parents, something she could subtly pressure them with to support her versions of events, like graduating and getting a party.
0 likes@jdlech and NPD mixed with sociopathy. She is devoid of emotion except for herself. Truly scary
0 likesPeople will sometimes almost do anything to save face. Make their children look better then they actually are. It makes them look like they have not failed them which is a terrible stigma in some instances.
1 likeThey are weirdos
0 likesCasey’s parents loved her too much and didn’t punish her for lying. They didn’t even know how to parent their child, and now they’ve taught Casey she can get away with anything as long as she lies.
1 like@Sarah Min LMFAOOOO if u actually do have a license it needs to get revoked ASAP!!!
1 likeYou can tell she learned to lie from them
0 likesSeems like liars raising liars🤯
0 likesI don’t doubt that she might have been abused. She may even have DID. I got a creepy feeling back at the start of the video when her dad said he’d give her the “big hug” & she started crying. I think the person making this video, having little experience/knowledge in the area, made an innocent judgement error in his interpretation of that moment in the jail call video. It was my first instinct and I’ve never seen a video about this case until now.
1 like@Sarah Min Do you think she really may have been abused? Possibly developed DID? Rewatch that jail visit from her parents and when he said he’d “hug” her. Her reaction. Listen to your instincts and consolidate it with your professional knowledge of the subject. Having never watched anything related to this case, I find it interesting that my instinct was subsequently later referenced when the “bombshell” comment was made by her lawyer.
1 likeRich enablers
0 likesThey TAUGHT their daughter how to lie and cover up mistakes.
1 likeThey got the monster they raised.
@Hoe-Sway Maldonado I still don't get how he was let off. His case and her case still piss me off.
1 like@Nairung1395 The parents failed miserably by being enablers.
0 likesSo sad, a smooth talker took Justice away from the baby, Rest Easy little one.
0 likesEnablers
0 likesShe grew up with no consequences for bad behavior, he parents are part of the problem
0 likes@bigtoe exactly!
0 likes@Alain Portant yep!
0 likesCalled enabling, that's why she probably has no conscience always pulled up when she fell never got up by herself....something or someone always there....yes parents....I get loving your child and giving to them but when everything is giving there's a sense of entitlement and can do whatever they want without repercussion.
0 likesNow why can't I have Fake Parents like that to throw Fake Parties for me.
0 likesHer parents are equally guilty because they have created this monster and allowed Casey to get away with everything in life.
1 like@Antares Agreed!
0 likesParents who feel sorry for the kid and let her get away with everything.
0 likes@duck there are different types of BPD and everyone shouldn't be grouped under one label
0 likesSuperficial narcissistic mask. Preserve the illusion of perfection at any cost.
0 likes@Feels Man come on ....only she is guilty. no need to blame anybody else
2 likesMust have been that guilty feeling for letting Dad.... well you heard 🤷♂️
0 likesDefinitely "chickens have come home to roost"
1 like@Erin Wouldn't the friends have to see her diploma if she truly graduated? What about the cap as well. What about talking about the last exams. Students from her class, surely at least one of them would be invited to the party. It's a terribly transparent lie. Not sure how her parents got away with it.
0 likesNobody dare blame the parents for the murder of Cayleigh? They weren't perfect and perhaps a bit odd? But not murderer's of their granddaughter....
1 likeThe Mother should have been CHARGED for perjury and obstruction in the very least. Our legal system is flawed. IT IS DEFINITELY NOT the best in the world; I'm sick of hearing this!!
1 like"Hey gorgeous, how ya doin"?!! What a DOPE!!
0 likesEnablers.
0 likesThe same kind of parents that does not teach their children how to end questions properly.
0 likesThat means your parents, in case that's too difficult to comprehend.:P
@Damien S I feel your frustration. These prudes over here throwing the word "enabler" way too much out of habit I suppose. Shouting and pointing fingers instead of giving useful insights and imparting lessons. But it's a trend to be righteously angry these days. Pathetic.
1 like@Oneeighteen Psalm Her brother turned out normal. They're like yin and yang. The hate her parents are getting is ridiculous. Casey should exclusively get all the hate. Alas, the more we hate, the more we feel good about ourselves.
2 likesDad was Cop
0 likes@duck they can very well be liars I've seen it in my own patients with the dx.
0 likesCasey parents, of course
0 likesHer parents enabled her lying. So many people are more concerned with appearances than reality. Shame.
0 likesParticipation trophy
0 likesRich elite oriented people
0 likes@kristi kirk cope
0 likes"If I lie long enough, mommy and daddy will take care of it".
2 likesThat's what they did, and their grandchild paid the price.
@Shigellosis _ Which makes me wonder what kind of cop her dad to not have seen through her act much earlier on.
0 likesAwful parents. Parents who failed at parenting. They raised a horrible person.
1 likethe same kind of parents who raise a pathological liar.
0 likesThey're pathological liars too.
I don’t wanna seem like I’m taking up for her parents but I do whatever I can for my children. No I’m not perfect and have made plenty mistakes. Bizarre absolutely. My take is they didn’t want someone else to know and had already sent out invites for the party or to save the embarrassment of there failure. Who knows really. As far as “supporting” her through the court proceedings I can understand that as well not really supporting but just making her think they were so maybe they could learn the truth. That’s what I would do. I’m sure her parents were surprised she got off. It’s been nearly a decade and I’m still beside myself about it. Just makes my stomach turn!
0 likes@A.J. Manol I found that to be incredibly bizarre too. Perhaps it's because she's so pathological, such a liar, that she knew what was asked of her on the tests.
0 likes@Socal Chris I didn't think truancy officers were still a thing in most places
0 likesParents who enable their child no matter what they do.
0 likesThe kind who create monsters. It seems that Casey was taught to live only by appearances, which she learned very well.
0 likesHer parents enabled her behavior!!! She controlled that family 😡 they in denial of what a monster they created and faked how beautiful she was! Remember the day she was going to be released?? Oh she looks so beautiful 🤬 seriously?
0 likesMoney hungry ones...lol.
0 likesthe kind of parents with a dark secret who would do anything not to rock the boat?
0 likesits all about the image, clearly her and her mum care significantly about there appearance to others, unfortunately that made it seem like you can get away with anything as long as your image looks good.
0 likesmy elem classmate's parents did... everyone really thought (including me) he graduated college on time coz his parents threw him a party and are telling everyone about his achievements... too bad for them, one of their church mate who also happens to be our elem classmate and his course mate in college ask her friends about it coz she was sure he failed a major subject like her.. Turn's out he has to stay for one more sem (like her)...Funny thing is he didn't attend his own graduation coz they already told everyone that he already march and graduated the previous year.. (I learned about this btw, after she told me that he didn't attend their graduation rites when his name is clearly written in the graduates list.)
1 like@Erin C:
0 likesExactly!!! They are a part of enabling this monster!
0 likesAlot of parents would do this. A lot of people care more about their "perfect family" appearance than almost anything. They'll do whatever to fit in and look good. No different then the millions in debt over their head living way above their means to put fit in.
0 likes@Hard_Boiled85 middle class ≠ rich
0 likesGee, idk, there’s many reasons. Let’s start with a simple one you should have come up with — they didn’t know. Are you even qualified to ask such questions if you can’t cover the basics before speaking
0 likesmy parents would definitely do that
0 likesAppearances, that is all
0 likesHer parents were in fantasy land. They were always trying to protect what they hoped was the perfect daughter. They had very deep problems themselves....and reinforced and validated their daughters pathological lying. The grandparents lied too.
0 likes@Sean Pizzo bro, did you not see that sweet Sunfire they drove which was the family car they shared with their daughter. They obviously have money
1 likeThey were looking out for their own reputation. As parents some of us think our children’s failure represents our character.
0 likesWell most disturbed people are like this due to their childhood environments, I mainly blame Cindy.
0 likesExactly y she thought she could kill her own baby, and get away with it!!!
1 likeShe was stunningly good at lying and moreso modern parents give their children the benefit of the doubt even on lies not nearly as intricate. That story that lead to her parents total manipulation was probably years in the making :/
0 likesThere is a song kuch toh log kahenge, give it a listen with subtitles
0 likes@George Bostany
1 likeI think whilst wrong then it’s understandable why Cindy would protect her daughter..even the police understood this..she wanted to stop her daughter from being executed, this is normal..although she did tell the police about the smell of a dead body in the car and she must have known deep down what that meant...I don’t know what I would do if this happened to my daughter and she killed her daughter..it’s easy to say you would do this, that and the other, but until your in that situation then you just don’t know.
@Sean Pizzo I thought the dad was a cop?
0 likes@Stephen Grigg security guard. $12 an hour.
0 likes@Sean Pizzo huh, well they call him a cop on the video, so I'm confused
0 likes@Stephen Griggdefinitely a security guard. I'm not sure where they call him a cop in this video if they do, but they do point out where his company had him posted the day in question. Im local and know the little neighborhood where they lived and can tell you it's lower middle class. Nothing special.
0 likes@Stephen Grigg not knocking the neighborhood btw because it's the same type of neighborhood I live in.
0 likes@Sean Pizzo its early in the video, he says how the dad could recognize the smell of a dead body coming from the car from his years as a police officer. So they must've just got a little detail wrong.
0 likesAnd I didnt think you were knocking the area, nothing wrong with being working class.
@Alain Portant there is absolutely ZERO evidence her Dad ever laid a hand on her. Stop with the bull*hit.
1 like@Patton Neuser Take it easy kid.
1 likeIt's just a tv show, for entertainment.
Some people are more concerned about their image than their well being. It’s all about how others see them, even to the detriment of themselves.
1 likeMy dad, when he was younger, used to know a family who lived in a beautiful house, had nice cars, always wore nice clothes, looked like they had all kinds of money. When he went in their house they had no furniture.
several women like that would rather save face than just admit the truth. trying to outdo the neighbors or drive expensive cars and cant pay for it things like that. i was married to one like that for a while. narcissist they want false vanity and will do anything to make themselves look good at the expense of whatever. they dont care who they hurt or what lie they need to tell as long as they appear as perfect people.
0 likes@Polka Samurai if you never learn consequences of bad actions you will keep doing bad actions. same reason we have so many people that cant act right when interacting with the police. modern society has never had to cut there own switch or there favorite toy took away for a month.
0 likes@Jeffrey Adams Yes but it doesn't necessarily mean that those bad actions are similar to this. Most peoples bad actions are nothing compared to this. On the other hand, being a strict parent might create a monster as well and I feel like in those cases the kids actually do bad bad things eventually.
0 likes@Polka Samurai i agree you can be to strict as well. you have to teach them to be responsible not treat them like they are animals. still parents that give in and cover are terrible. if you knew how many people i grew up with that are now heavy into drugs went to jail etc... that had parents just like this.
1 likeI feel like they were likely very permissive - they were older and busy with their jobs, but felt guilty and blamed themselves for any of her shortcomings (somewhat justifiably) and helped cover up all her failures because of embarrassment of how it reflected on them. Nature is a thing, and it just happens that the nature and nurture had a terrible synergy. I don't believe George abused her - I think that was another lie she told to cast herself in the best possible light and what she knew would get her sympathy from people.
0 likeslol my parents did that to me haha, but it was because I got very sad cause i didn´t graduate with my generation so they did that to make me feel better. (I did graduate in the end tho, just a year later haha)
0 likes@Feels Man I highly doubt that, spoiling someone alone doesn't turn them into a cold hearted killer. It can make them selfish and neglectful, but a killer? No, I wouldn't be blaming the parents here. Spoiling someone doesn't completely remove the ability to have empathy or morality. As it was said, she always seemed to have a bubbly personality at the wrong times, sounds like she was a sociopath to me, just trying to pretend to be normal.
1 like@Hard_Boiled85 "Rich ones" hardly sell trinkets down at the flea market during retirement.
0 likes@Nairung1395 That's what is so disturbing, they went along with Casey's lie, knowing it was a lie.
0 likes@Socal Chris You'd think that after day 3 the school would be calling. My parents got a call if I was even late several times within a 6 week period.
0 likesBeyond spoiled. Her parents created a monster.
0 likes@Robert Ritchie really believe that statement??? As a policeman,I think he know the low very well...how the hell her mom still live with him after that statement? Because she(Cassie) lied,she tried everything to escape,and she did. In the same statement her lawyer said the little girl drawn in their pool and the father helped with the little body...why they bothered to put the duck tape then ? They are lot of ways to hide a body,I am sure he could knew,somehow to not be discovered...it.a a nonsense what you say in the last sentence...
0 likes@Feels Man I don’t think that’s true. They raised her to be a narcissistic liar who always gets her way, but only Casey Anthony could make the choice to escalate that into murder—nobody else bears responsibility.
0 likes@Feels Man yes but not intentionally
0 likesI think the parents are involved in the crime too or at least one of them is.
0 likesWelcome to America
0 likesThey built this beast and they are as guilty as that being that they birthed.
0 likesAnd they said she graduated with honors.
1 likeThat’s the thing that was bizarre really
0 likesIt’s all for image.
0 likesthere are so many honestly..
0 likes@jdlech is that the same thing as a psychologist evaluation?
0 likesThe type of people who put up a front for appearance sake when the reality is much different. She must’ve been a god damn nightmare to deal with on a daily basis.
0 likesIt's like a weird recipe. Her parents loved her but they let her get away with lying. She was spoiled. her mom and dad didn't discipline her so she learned how to be selfish. They were unauthentic people. A phony public image is what was important. Looking good in front of people and Casey looking like a high-school graduate was more important than Casey facing the music and their family looking bad. What better way to be fake than to throw a mock graduation party. Casey learned how to do that growing up. she never learned responsibility. Just be fake and lie about things and you'll be fine. But a lot of people are like this and don't commit murder. With other murder cases and serial killers it's always been the unanswerable question why does someone make that decision to cross that line, but she had all the prerequisites.
1 like@Leslie Cleary there's no such classification. You must be confused with a different personality disorder or co-morbid personality disorders. Sociopaths are the ones that can usually fool psychiatrists, sometimes NPD too. If you tell me the name of the offender in the case you're talking about I can look into it, can't find anything from the description you gave.
0 likesright. they tolerated their child so much, if that were my parents, i’d be homeless for lying to so much important for them
1 likeYeah to the point where she thought she could get away with killing her daughter.... oh wait that worked
0 likes@Secret Diary of a Foodie "Sociopaths are the ones who fool psychiatrists, sometimes NPD too." Agreed. Jdlech describes the situation well. Read his comment (if you can find it) and see what you think... Thanks for your input. You have an interesting name, like...yay, food!! (Perhaps will copy.& paste Jdlech later..)
0 likes@SleepLess is it not possible he got a job as a security officer when he was done working as a cop?
0 likesEnablers trying to keep up appearances
0 likes@Jodie Finney psychopaths generally have no trouble passing psych evals and pulling the wool over everyone's eyes, including most mental health professionals.
1 like@Socal Chris maybe because Dad was a cop.....🤔
0 likes@bigtoe happened to a friend of mine. And she was adopted from South Korea. She learned how to manipulate because she told.her parents dhe would tell.them "their dirty secret" and they would bribe her with money so as she grew up.she learned how to con money out of them and her family was a pretty well off family! She ended up with drug problems because of it.
0 likes@duck my sister has it and has low self esteem and when anyone gives her advice she gets defensive. She can get violent but would never kill anyone
0 likes@Randomfools i agree. Read my other comment. My friend was molested by her adoptive dad too.
0 likesThe kind of parents who let their kid talk disrespectful to them. Just look at her talking to her mom on the phone saying it's a waste, hollering and curse. And when they visit they be all calling her "sweetheart, gorgeous" Like wtf
0 likesRight? Oh you skipped school everyday to sleep w ur older boyfriend n didn’t graduate? Awww. We’re so proud. U deserve a graduation party sweetheart.
0 likesThrow a sham graduation party to save face, then your face becomes attributed to one of the most heinous crimes of humanity.
0 likesShe was a spoiled and pampered little brat and it turned her into a sociopathic monster
0 likes@Hard_Boiled85 Why is it that the bad guys are rich people even when they aren't? Sure is unfair, huh?
0 likes@Feels Man seems a lil harsh dont it
0 likes@Robert Ritchie 100% true!
0 likes@Socal Chris I’d be angry at my kids if they skipped school but not worry about myself going to jail because my kid didn’t want to go to school. It sounds like your dad was selfish in a way for he seemed he was more worried about law enforcement possibly cracking down on him than worried about why you skipped in the first place. Idk I could be wrong but that’s just my opinion.
0 likes@Angela-Marie Coe No he just taught me to take responsibility for my actions. But tell me more about how you raised your brats.
0 likesYep, my parents would have flat out refused
0 likesThe mother had def some issues that related to how Casey turned out. When caylee was born the mom didn’t even comfort her daughter she just said “it’s like I have a baby Casey all over again” or something along those lines and only cared about the baby. The father was just submissive and depressed and took this crazy dynamic
0 likesIf you actually payed more attention you’d know that she lied about graduating. lol
0 likes@Erin The exact reason their daughter becoming them or even worse!
0 likesA a
0 likesI never got one at all or even an “congrats” absolutely nothing just a typical Tuesday
0 likesNarcissist one would, they raise up a sociopath.
0 likes@Kim Bryan yeah, a lot of narcisissts have their entire families cover for them, some of whom are narcs themselves. I used to live in the same town as this one narc who would literally harass anyone who would walk by his house, in order to smear and slander his ex wife. Any time a person would refuse to participate or listen and walk away, he would literally then turn on that person and have his family harass people. They would also come over to clean his house, lie about his drug use, and pay his legal bills. If not for having enablers these people would likely be spending their lives in prison. Total society shit stains
0 likes@Rabab Hussain So if random people can do it.. imagine governments and authorities.
0 likes@Waves On Swim Why the fuck would any parent tell the whole world about their son's suicide attempts? Especially in this judgemental social media crap world where anyone can be put on blast. Dude, that's private family issues.
0 likes@Pizzahighfive No. Millennials were born between 1982 and 1996. Casey was born in 1986.
0 likes@Subash Chandra An Ohio state patrolman and a registered nurse are not rich.
0 likes@Carmen Dilcherd Millennials = 1981-1996. Casey is 35 yrs old.
0 likes@Leslie CAS RN's make tons of money.
0 likes@Subash Chandra Some nurses make high hourly wages, depending on their specialties and whether they have a Bachelor's of Science degree in Nursing. If they work overtime, they can make excellent paychecks. But, if they don't work they don't get paid - no paycheck, no money. Cindy Anthony came of age when two year nursing degrees were the norm. She most certainly does not have a BS so she doesn't make the money that today's graduates (mandatory Bachelor's of Science degree) make.
0 likes@Pizzahighfive I’ll clarify.. they hid suicide attempts from the rest of the family to keep up the facade of the picture perfect life they wanted to project. I didn’t say they were supposed yo shout it from rooftops. They were obsessed with how people perceived them and were preoccupied with being admired rather than the well-being of their child.
0 likesIt was probably already planned when they found out she dropped out, and was easier to just continue.
0 likesThe kind of parents who abuse their children. Love is replaced by gifts. I've seen it first-hand.
0 likes@Jodie Finney It would have to be a deeper issue than being a narcissist, though. There would need to be a more malignant issue to cause this type of hysteria.
0 likesi love how everyone that called her on her first day disregarded what she wanted and showed actual concern for her daughter
8 likesThe fact that juries can be swayed into forgetting you don't accidentally drown in a swimming pool by having your mouth and nose duct taped closed is why we need a new criminal justice system.
6 likesAny normal person with a child in their lives can imagine how you'd be desperate with panic if they were missing and you'd do anything to get them back. Even in comparison to other murderers her reactions are bizarre.
3 likesI’ve watched hours of your videos today they’re very well put together and very intriguing. Nicely done. I usually don’t have an appetite for things that feature our Justice system as a main character, but these kept me entertained regardless.
0 likesWatching her crying at her verdicts being ruled "not guilty" and never crying over the loss of her daughter or any mention of her daughter, and actually being ANNOYED by people trying to help find her really says a whole lot. Watching that part made my stomach turn into knots.
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I dont know how they even came to the conclusion she wasn’t guilty.
68 likesAlso remember when she threw her loving farther under the buss by saying that he touched her as a kid, good luck lying your way out of that one now your free
81 likesYeah. Her daughter is missing for several WEEKS and she's lying to the detectives, she's way too calm and collected about the whole thing. I mean, I don't have kids of my own, but if I imagine my nephews or nieces getting kidnapped, I would be worried sick about their well-being and I'd do everything in my power to help find them (and that WOULDN'T involve sending the detectives on a wild goose chase).
17 likesHeck, Casey's friends are showing more sympathy to the whole situation than Casey is.
The worst thing about this? I read an article "Where is Casey Anthony now" and apparently she's planning to have another kid...
And people still stand behind the United States “justice system”
11 likesThe jury must of been full of smooth brains
8 likesShe knew the girl was long dead
2 likes@Sloppy Oyster it’s crazy since it HAS to be an unanimous decision. You’d think at least ONE person on the jury would be able to have some sense. Absolutely sickening she got away with murder... It’s sad that a charismatic lawyer can be the sole difference in a trial decision
17 likesIt seems impossible unfathomable to me. This case has always baffled me but once I became a mother it seemed impossible someone could be sooo callous and regardless if she’s guilty or not (obv she is) HOW could she show NO regard for her even a little bit.
1 like@john They shot too high with the conviction. There was no hard evidence so they couldn’t charge her with 1st degree murder. Had they charged her with 2nd degree, she’d be in prison right now.
4 likesI was watching her parents as the verdicts were read. I couldn't see her mother's face, but her father showed no emotion as one "not guilty" verdict after another was read.
1 like@Kay Hope pfft. no way. figured this out right at the beginning. father was a cop. mommy and daddy probably found a way to finagle this whole thing to keep the princess out of prison.
2 likes@donkeydump63 they are total enablers... I guarantee you they know she did it but they didn’t want to lose both the granddaughter and daughter. I would disown my child idc
1 like@Polemical Kobra I heard about it for the 1st degree murder it was 10-2 and it only took 30 mins discussion to turn the 2 over. For manslaughter it was 6-6 and after a few hour debate including mentioning how nice and friendly Caseys lawyer was vs the persecution lawyer who seemed like a dick they voted 11-1 pretty much repeating everything Caseys lawyer said in his closing statement as the reasons why they cant judge her guilty. Then that 1 guy literally said whatever do what you guys want and changed his vote... Then a few years ago he did an interview saying his decision haunts him everyday and he wished he stood his ground more
0 likes@Ben Berk that’s pretty interesting actually
0 likes@Melissa B There's no doubt that her parents committed some serious blunders while raising her.
0 likesOn the other hand, the extraordinary situation they were - and still are - in is impossible to prepare for. It's easy for an outside observer to say what he or she would do, but the truth is you can't know unless you've been there.
So sad. Her family really loves her, and even though their suspicion leaks through, they still want to love her as only parents could. Imagine what the family could've been had she still been alive. She would've have the very best grandparents. Shame. Take this video to call your parents and grandparents and just talk to them, it really does mean the world.
2 likesI can’t state how infuriated I was seeing her get away with that. she showed absolutely NO remorse for her missing child yet felt terrible for herself. the jury should be ashamed of themselves for letting someone like this get away with such a thing.
1 likeThis is crazy. When I was watching the first half of this video I noted in my brain that it was known that she used to get out of any hard situation by being a pathological liar and towards the end of the video she is ruled not guilty by following this same manipulative character . Why does everyone give her second chance no matter what outrageous thing she does?
1 like“You don’t have to look at the camera, look at me!”
12 likesWow if her parents are this naive they probably still believe she is innocent.
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The father was an ex police officer he initially said that in the trunk of Casey’s car he could smell that a d,ead body had been there .
4 likesThen he changed his story and said it was pizza he smelled . Casey’s parents knew their daughter and I’m sure they knew she’d m.urdered Kaylee . But I believe they’d lost their granddaughter and didn’t want to lose their daughter , so they stood by her . However , I believe that they never made Casey accountable , or disciplined her growing up and always walked on egg shells around her . And they were still doing it . If my daughter had m.urdered my grandchild I would not stand by her and I would make sure she was punished by going to p.rison
After the case was over . Casey cut all contact with her parents .
Show of hands, who is STILL absolutely DUMBFOUNDED this murderer was found not guilty...
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i dont have enough hands
3121 likes@TimyD 😂😂😂
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149 likesThat’s what a top notch attorney can do for you
962 likes@Hunter Williams, too bad the baby wasn't represented by one...😔
1096 likesWhat
16 likesShe had a danm good Attorney
307 likesI remember yelling at the TV when the news came out she was not guilty. All my family and friends had been following the story and we were so sure justice would be served. I am still mad!
787 likesI am still. Thing about it is though, Hell is a deep hole, and you can't lie your way out of that.
348 likes@Hunter Williams who paid for her top notch attorney.
79 likes@dennis martin hey I forgot to add she can have lunch with OJ down there 😁
70 likes@dennis martin 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
16 likes🖐🏾🖐🏾🖐🏾🖐🏾🖐🏾🖐🏾🖐🏾
29 likesShe's a cute white girl. Not surprised really 🤷♀️
159 likes@indiciaobscure she ain't that cute LOL
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21 likes@A. B.D. And they had evidence that a heart sticker was placed on the tape on her mouth. They showed that those same stickers were in the Anthony home.
164 likesA. B.D. Hell if i know. The man was fantastic at controlling the jury though. Absolutely top notch defense, honestly some of the best she could’ve gotten.
109 likesThat just shows you how injustice thrives and grows.
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13 likes@Hunter Williams I know right? How sad is it that murderers walk free, and innocent people go to prison based solely on the amount of money they can spend on either a stellar legal team, or an over worked and under paid public defender. It's such bullshit....
240 likes@A. B.D. yeah. I think there was, but it doesn't matter as I believe the defense tried to state, that Kaylee drowned in the pool and Casey then buried her in the woods, although the story doesn't add up, since Kaylee already have been dead. Especially these internet searches: foolproof suffocation should've been really enough for the conviction.
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15 likes@indiciaobscure, right, as was Caylee.
4 likesI have no words.
17 likesTOTALLY & UTTERLY MIND FUCKING BLOWING! no justice for poor Caylee
71 likesHun Ter not just the attorney those 31 days she had to do what she did and get rid of caylee saved her! all the evidence GONE... just not enough and the law is the law... If there is ANY reasonable doubt at all she’s innocent. God knows what she did and she will be punished for eternity.
39 likesJohny and 31 days to prepare and clean up what she did to that poor little gurl.
28 likesWorld Peace So?? she doesn’t care about losing her father or what other people thing about her... It’s not ya but anything she got off on the murder of her own child!
14 likes@Kora Pace, translation...🤔?
13 likesAye🤚
4 likes@David Shaw...unfortunately. Clearly common sense did, though, IMO.
3 likesMe.
4 likesYet people get mad when police use lies about evidence to get confessions. Smh.
18 likesStill bothers me to this day
29 likesTo be honest, the way her lawyer talked to the jury was like he was talking to little kids. He wasn't good, they were just bad, which is a cherry on top of all this madness...
96 likesGot to get a good attorney
6 likesA. B.D. Utter bollocks
2 likesI'm not, she's from Florida
5 likes@hendeeze, not sure whether to laugh or cry...
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4 likesWhewww
1 likeI wish they made a lie detector test that was 100% foolproof. And it will only be used for murder trials. There's too many people in jail for life for crimes they didn't commit and there's also too many that are walking freely for crimes they did commit.
51 likesAmy Shadle totally!! I’m shocked that people have the audacity to challenge the fact that she’s guilty.
20 likes@Felicia Albanese swear.
4 likesShe is still out and what is more baffling there are people who still hangs out and supports her.
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2 likesIt’s mind blowing she got away with this. Like how does that even happen? She’s 100000000% guilty!!!!!!!! This just goes to show you our justice system is TERRRRRIBLE!!!!!!!!
45 likes🖐️✋🏿👋🏻🖐🏽🤚🏾🙌🏼👐🏽
10 likesbecause shes a woman
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6 likesDiscusted with the result the court system failed big time.
18 likes👋🏻🖐🏻🤚🏻✋🏻🙌🏻👐🏽✋🏻🤚🏻👋🏻 “DUMBFOUNDED” isn’t even in the same GALAXY...!!!!!🔥🚨🚨🚨
4 likesA. B.D. Why would that matter?
0 likesWAIT..WHAT im halfway through, decided to check on the comments...that was a plot twist for sure.
13 likesJMT Animal Rap lol
0 likesJMT Animal Rap I’ve met the attorney for her and he is amazing. He said later that it could have gone either way.
5 likes@Carter Hostetler If she's not guilty, then there's still something very very wrong about this woman, and this case is too hard to judge. I'm fascinated with this channel, and after seeing this case I apparently have no idea what ''evidence beyond a reasonable doubt'' is.
14 likesJMT Animal Rap I haven’t heard the whole case, but I did listen to part of it while I was at law school. But what I do know about the case is the the prosecuting team brought up a lot of empirical data and facts. They played to the hearts of the jury instead of the facts. I don’t believe that they showed any proven facts, such as her DNA being on the duct tape, or the blanket. Also, the opening statement from the prosecuting side was very weak.
17 likes@Carter Hostetler Since im not native speaker, sometimes its hard for me when i listen. What did they say about the google searches? Because in one case that was pretty strong evidence (google searches). I mean how's that not ''beyond reasonable doubt'' that they did it?
2 likesJMT Animal Rap That’s a good question. I’m not sure how much that was brought up because the main point that the prosecutors were trying to make is that, “Why would she wait five weeks before reported her child missing?” Which is a very strong argument. I’ve never used Google searches in one of my cases, but they don’t seem to be a viable source of evidence. Even though it seems like it is, we all look up something that I’m or out of context, looks quite bad.
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1 likeWe need a batman . The planet needs a fucking batman to do what the pig's fail to do .
13 likesYup. This is how dangerous psychopaths are. They literally can get away with murder and somehow manipulate themselves out of it. Look at Ted Bundy, who almost got away with being a SERIAL KILLER. We need to wisen up and get educated on these personality types, so we stop getting fooled so easily.
28 likesKevin Schow Yes. I disagree with the outcome of the case.
6 likes@Carter Hostetler Ye, thats the thing. I wonder where the border is. And hows that an argument - that she's a pathological liar. She didn't lie when they asked her ''U think u are helping us by lying?'' She's just saying things people want to hear. If u lie to authorities, it shouldn't matter if u used to lying or not omg...
8 likes@Kenny Angelo Haha how do you expain her "female privilege" if 50% of the jury was men?
8 likesJMT Animal Rap Yeah. From what I’ve heard however, the prosecuting team for Florida in that case wasn’t very good.
9 likesI thought she was in jail lol
5 likesI think the same would of happened with chris Watts on American Murderer. He would’ve of walked if the neighbor wouldn’t have had video of him and didn’t come out and asked what was wrong
9 likesricardo rivera I agree. Jury’s hardy ever decide based on the behavior of the suspect. This is because the defense always states that everyone handles shock differently.
5 likesi loved it when the investigator goes...
5 likes“Tell us what happened to Caylee, Tell us what happened to Caylee!”
it’s just how i imagined it to be in the movies, i felt the pressure 18:51
Chris Johnson What happens all the time?
0 likesThis is REAL privilege folks. Get it straight.
3 likes* raises hand * guilty and not only that, but somehow i find that theres something corrupt about the jury and judge to. if anything someone would at least be charged with covering up a kid napping, and i mean that's beside the point she went out partying and drinking and renting videos during the 31 days. she murdered that young girl. but whats even scarier is somehow enuf money was paid to the right people, and they didnt charge her with anything at all. she got a slap on the wrist for murdering a 3 year old.
11 likesMAHZJ How was it privilege?
5 likessean gleason Paying off Jury members is quite illegal and would amount to a federal crime with long prison time. No lawyer would waste their own time and money to get a jury conviction in their favor. Also, the lady that this case is about would not be able to do it by herself, and would need to know everyone in the jury, have them agree to a sum of money, then none of them can say anything. Also, they can’t know the other members of the jury are being paid off because that would lead to a large scale blackmailing operation. Of course this is pure speculation and is quite ridiculous.
6 likes@World Peace what????
0 likes@Swedeski no, the tape was found near her body but they could never determine if it was ever actually on Caylee. The heart sticker was inadvertently destroyed by the coroner (if I recall correctly).
4 likes@M cuter then you
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3 likesShe so obviously did it, but unfortunantly, you cant convict someone of murder, if they know know how the victim died.......Which i hate.... I get it, but i fucking hate it,.
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2 likesI truly never will understand this never ever,
6 likesShe is innocent
0 likesFacts ...people have been put away for life for wayyy less
12 likes@IAmWhomUPray2, with all due respect, your three word comment leads me to believe you are here, commenting, simply to start something. Come on, no one wants to play games here. Those of us who believe she is guilty are talking with each other...😒😒😒
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3 likesSpoiler.... what serious?
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2 likes@Tiber Zeek, true. Seeing one found innocent is still surprising and troubling...
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1 likeStill have my jaw on the floor every time I hear the verdict
6 likes@A. B.D. No, we should hope that sinners, no matter how bad, gain contrition and turn to God for forgiveness.
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1 like@NotEvenDeathCanSaveYouFromMe, exactly my point. Seemed reasonable to plenty of us...
0 likes@dennis martin too bad hell isn’t real. I would say she has to live with a guilty conscience but I don’t think she has one.
8 likes@SuperAussieOi There have been many, I'm sure who have told themselves that Hell is not real, in an effort to console themselves. Some need evidence of Hell, some only see the lack of evidence as support for the existence of. Her time will come.
4 likes4.5 thousand people. Is this not enough for a fucking PETITION???!!
5 likes@Nick Gibbs, I know someone is going to shout, "blah, blah, blah...reasonable doubt...!" so can we just take a nationwide vote, like right now and go get her?! God...
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2 likesSerious miscarriage of justice
5 likesKora Pace That's not entirely true. There still can be reasonable doubt, that's why it's guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Which just means that even if a jury member has some reasonable doubts about a case, they can still think they are guilty because of the evidence. They don't seem to mention that to the jury panel. They didn't when I was on a jury. It was the lawyer that mentioned it to us during the trial as I guess he realised there were things brought up that could cause some doubts.
0 likesC J 4 life DNA is good, but there are many murder cases without any DNA.
4 likesmichel Guevara There are plenty of women in prisons all around the world for behaving badly. And women should have equal rights, but I can not stand those over board feminists that hate men and think we do not need men etc.
5 likesC J 4 life True. I guess the jury did not know how to put 2+2 together.
3 likes@Ing C Clearly they didn't lol.
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1 likeThe jurry let her off cause her DNA wasn’t on the duct tape. There were too many holes in the case surrounding how Caylee was actually murdered. I still think it’s bullshit
4 likesKayla Dew Yeah, that's what people are saying. Because the charge was murder one. (Not sure of the exact terms) but if she was charged with the next one down, they may have found her guilty. Still I think there was plenty of circumstantial evidence.
2 likesKayla Dew i have been on a jury and it's really strange how others process the evidence or lack of evidence. With the jury I was on, some were really stupid, some were not even listening, and a few of the males were more interested in the pretty young defence lawyer. And it seemed like these males were just on her side no matter what the evidence was.
6 likesWtf is the actual point in having a judge?! When a bunch of un-trained civilians make the final decision?! Ive never seen the logic in that. Everyone else in the room has been to law school for decades and yet the people who get to make the verdict are ones with no schooling on the matter and can't see when they're being fooled/manipulated by people who have been trained in the industry and know all the tricks of the trade. Put a bunch of non-biased attorneys who aren't on the case - in the jury box and there would be a completely different outcome!!!!!!
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1 like@Amy Shadle that’s the understatement of the century.
1 like@narwhal and the lawyer..
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2 likes@moon beam fr i still can't believe to this day that she was found innocent...she, her attorney, and that jury all deserve hell
1 like@Kevin Gibbs that, too...
0 likes@M they've overlooked so much of her bullshit. Who's to say they won't welcome her back at some point?! I don't blame her parents for what happened. She is the killer, but at the same time I do recognize there were some significant issues within that family, starting with the obvious blinders they had when it came to her constant lying and manipulation...
4 likesI’m so sick of this country.
2 likes@nspacetime I hear you.
1 likeShouldn't it be a "show of likes instead to dress this narrative instead?
0 likesif this was a black woman, garunteed it would have been guilty just saying.
1 like@A. B.D. after a month in a swamp . . . idk
0 likesYou mean she is currently free right now? Abominable. Why haven’t they opened this cas?
1 like...or a man of ANY color.
1 like@Shina Gogue 弔 弓 弗 川 Ὀφιοῦχος someone always mentions it, don't they?! This was just a bad deal. Period. A shock and disappointment to say the very least.
2 likes@Emo To The Extremo you aren’t just saying. And I doubt her color played a huge role in the verdict. Everyone knows white folks be doing stupid crazy shit like this. Plus the jury wasn’t all white. They were brainwashed. Much of that is going around these days.
1 like@hannah michaels ummm, there was a trial. This video covered it. She was found not guilty.
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@Amy Shadle yeah I know............. It’s just surreal because there’s an overwhelming amount of evidence that she did it.......... I don’t get how she was found not guilty
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1 like@TimyD i can lend you some of mine
0 likesIf not found for murder , which I guess they couldn’t prove , she should have been charged with negligent manslaughter. She should have been a mother to a child. And tossed in jail
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1 likeCause on defense, they really never found how that kid die? That ONE thing/question hits the prosecution hard. No matter how normal people look different about it but according by laws they have no evidence at all to declare the mother guilty.
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2 likesShe had the best lawyer of all time. Props to that guy for doing his job right, but shame on the court and the verdict.
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0 likesI dont have enough hands to raise
0 likesMy jaw dropped when I heard "not guilty" like wtf? That laywer played you idiots like a fiddle
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1 likeBaby murder, but can you not say that anymore because anti-choice people made it about abortion, like how 'save the children' is about adrenochrome/pizzagate now.
0 likesAmy Shadle it is on the cops for not finding sufficient evidence.
1 likeHaving sat and done jury duty I can honestly say that this system of justice is terrifying and absurd.
0 likesmakes me sick
0 likes@TimyD here’s my 15 extra hands I have
0 likes@Agapē well at his job of course but you can't even judge him as a person because he simply provided her, the right to a fair trial. Besides she got off because they simply could not pin here on anything
0 likesLol that's the point of a defense or offense 🤣
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1 likeI don't understand how people with no degrees have this much power. Our justice system is beyond broken
0 likes@M she ain't cute at all. Monster on the inside and outside.
0 likesDumbfounded
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1 like@narwhal must of been
0 likes@A. B.D. yeah screwed him to play him. She didn't have the money so she became his play thing
0 likesCan anything be done to get justice for Caylee and get her in jail?!
0 likesWowww... I have no words. A million red flags yet “not guilty” ... 👀 guess we gotta leave this one to karma to get justice. 🤷🏽♀️
2 likesExplanation = Pretty white woman whose dad is a cop
1 likeI’m not surprised , this took place in Florida and she’s a conventionaly attractive white woman .
0 likesI'm dumbfounded that she's still alive, honestly.
1 like@SilverFlame819 😂😂😂
0 likesI JUST DONT UNDERSTAND HOW THE CASE WAS ALL ABOUT CASEY BUT NOT CAYLEE,SO WHO KILLLED HER ?
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1 likein your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! never
0 likesFor clarification, "both direct and circumstantial evidence are considered legitimate forms of proof in federal and state courts. A person may be convicted of a crime based on circumstantial proof alone. And indeed, with the prevalence of mistaken identification and false testimony, inferential proof is oftentimes thought to be even more reliable than direct proof."
1 like@Ruddy Scarr she really was.
0 likesI was I’ll never be able to figure that one out smh
1 likeShow of thumbs. 😆
1 likeWhere's your proof she murdered her daughter? Do we even know that was actually her daughter? What do we even know anymore 😂
0 likes@Amy Shadle that's irrelevant to what I'm talking about and you know it. So how about stop being facetious and learn to accept responsibility. Blaming others yet look at you?
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1 like@Swedeski And you see a lot of people saying there was no hard evidence. Well, this is hard evidence because it points directly at Casey and nobody else. This connects Casey to the crime.
0 likes@gunnerzz11 An innocent person can be simply nervous and that would send a false trigger to the lie detector. This could lead to an innocent person being wrongly convicted
0 likes@Kevin Emmers Yeah obviously our current lie detecters aren't good enough. But surely technology will come up with some foolproof lie detecter in the future. Then we don't have to go through all this stuff. There's too many innocent people in jail, and guilty people walking the streets. The current system is failing us.
0 likesThe fact Anthony walks free conducting a freelance PI business is as disturbing as it is infuriating.
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0 likesOne of the biggest injustices I have ever seen. I live five minutes from where this happened. I remember it like it was yesterday.
1 likeCompletely ridiculous the boyfriend wasn't a suspect too
0 likes*screams in OJ
0 likesShe even has her own business.
0 likes@Lupe get outta town. Really ?
0 likes@Killed by Shrek Yeah really, you can find out more online. Really makes ones blood boil.
0 likes@Marv’s View Her lawyer literally saved her life. It's unbelievable how he can make those accusations without even needing to back it up. Her parents cared more about her child than she did.
1 like@moon beam The same here, babe, the same here.
0 likes@M She works now as a private investigator.
0 likesI don’t understand how in some cases being little info someone gets locked up, but she gets a pass lol
1 likeIf the law fails, the mob probably won't be.
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0 likesJustice system at its finest
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0 likesHer dad intentionally ruined the whole case to protect her. He knew she did it and he was honest for a split second then decided to lie and cover for her.
1 likeWait???!!! WHAT?!?!?! I thought she DID..I mean how the hell NOT???!!!
2 likesI will NEVER understand how a jury came to the conclusion there was any reasonable doubt whatsoever. Obviously, a sane jury was not selected
1 like@Sugar that’s Florida for ya
0 likes🖕🏻 🖕🏻 those are my hands, directed toward casey
3 likes@RazzBerry 😂😂😂
0 likesWords cannot fathom how disgraceful this crime was to an innocent young girl. It is beyond comprehension how this Jury got the verdict so wrong. I wonder if they even think back on their deliberations and realized they got it wrong? I wonder if any member of the defence team ever thought she was guilty and how do you even represent pure evil like that?
1 like@Divesh Davdra they were interviewed, some of the jury, at least. I believe the jury here does NOT feel that Casey is innocent, but was compelled to find her not guilty at trial because the evidence could not get them beyond that "reasonable doubt" bit.
0 likesDevastating, I know...
I am actually not so surprised. The prosecution did a really bad job.
0 likesthe prosecutors charged her with first degree murder...which basically means premeditated..caylee died by her mothers hands yes..accidentally...the prosecution should have known better..they knew they would have to prove it was premeditated...and how could they..it should have been second degree...she walked because the prosecutors messed up...and i get why they were so angry...cooler heads should have prevailed
0 likes@Anitam king That was definitely part of it. I think they were relying on the search results to establish premeditation.
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1 likeWhen I first posted this comment I was speaking from my heart. Those of us who followed the story, trial and otherwise, understand there was not ample evidence to convict Casey on first degree murder or even manslaughter. Even so, for so many of us our hearts told us she killed that baby.
1 likeAnyone thinking or commenting she got off simply because she is a woman...
Mmm, no, I disagree. Delve a bit deeper and you will most likely come to a different conclusion.
The fact remains that as much as so many wanted to see her go down, there was not enough to successfully take her down, not on those charges with the available evidence.
Casey at the very least was proven repeatedly to be an absolute LIAR. Caylee could have remained alive and thriving absolutely free of any effort and/or obligation on Casey's part. She could have just walked away, allowing her parents to continue raising Caylee.
There are no words to adequately express the level of selfishness she displayed in killing HER OWN DAUGHTER.
Maybe "dumbfounded" was not the best choice of words. What I meant to say is that I was disappointed, am disappointed, repeatedly, each and every time I think about this case.
Me i hope they reopen case with more evidence and Investigation
0 likesi am not ... did you heard how the defendant lawyer wiped the prosecution ass on the floor ,,, he scary good. we all know she guilty but dudde the jury are not allowed to see things like us and only hear the lawyers
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1 like@Kevin Schow she used her female privilege to pay for her attorney
1 like@indiciaobscure gender bias is the most effective bias in court. Women get favorable rulings and sentences with a factor 3× more than race or even age. Its just the fact shes a woman. Yes they have studied it.
1 likeI wonder if it bothers them in hindsight
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1 likeSee, I think the did it but we see this angle and its obvious. The way the prosecution handled this case was absolutely HORRENDOUS. We can blame the Jury all we want but if you look at how the prosecution went after Casey, they didn't do their jobs. Go back and look at the prosecution's arguments, TERRIBLE. Not to mention, that search for "chloroform" was found only one time not the alleged 30+ times. So even if they found her guilty, the whole thing could have been deemed a mistrial. The prosecution should be ASHAMED.
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0 likesI haven’t finished yet, but there seems to be a lack of motive. I believe she past all her tests, but she seems to be a sociopath to me. I suspect her daughter was in the way of her doing something somehow and she murdered her to get her out of the way. Her own self gratification seems to be the main priority in her life, regardless of the cost.
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0 likesMy theory is that it's because she was a young woman. She's not the stereotypical murderer and therefore she wasn't punished as such. She definitely had a princess complex and for some reason it even worked in avoiding punishment for killing her own child. So disgusting.
0 likesEverybody is dumbfounded except OJ.
1 likeI know she guilty but you gotta agree that defence lawyer is pretty good
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0 likesWhat about oj? There's more evidence there then here.
0 likesStill dumbfounded someone hasn't offed hee
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0 likes@narwhal and a stupid jury
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0 likesEveryone in these comments like "Shes going to hell" assuming hell exists.
0 likesNot being from the US, I'm only finding out now she was found not guilty via your comment. She's obviously guilty. How on earth was she found not guilty? Lack of evidence?
0 likes@dennis martin Pfft, she ain't even all that though. Millions more like here out there and they're not murderers.
0 likes@A. B.D. Each to their own but with monsters like her walking around as a free woman then it only bolsters my notion that we already live in Hell on this earth in this inescapable material universe/dimension and that the whole point is to enlighten the soul and better the self so that you move up the tree of life or else you'll perpetually reincarnate into this world.
0 likesThis has to be Hell; this planet is a nightmare to exist upon and for most people, life is unfair and rife with poverty, slavery (consumerism and slavery to materialism) and misery.
TL;DR: In most other countries she'd be rotting in solitary or protective custody because she'd be dead in a week in general population.
@UCKyh4-EUp9G4XxJ0hEhL1Ww You call that white privilege over there right? Not from America and it doesn't exist over here.
0 likes@Lost Shadow what exactly is a petition going to do? She's been found not guilty. Even if they find definitive proof she did it, they can't take her back to court. She could come out tomorrow and say "I did it. Here's how I did it and I fucking loved it" and they can't do ANYTHING. The 5th amendment of the US Constitution provides that no person can be prosecuted for the same crime. It's called the prohibition of Double Jeopardy.
0 likes@Amy Shadle based on that, you could be innocent, end up 8n a bad situation and because you're unpopular a nationwide vote would find you guilty. That's exactly why that system isn't used. It is ripe for corruption. It actually has a name :tyranny of the majority.
0 likes@C J 4 life I'm sorry to say but they don't even know how Caylee died. Without that, you can't prove murder.
0 likes@Millie Virtue the point of the judge is to make sure the law is followed. They make sure each lawyer follow the rules of evidence, and arbitrate disputes between the 2 sides.
0 likesAlso sometimes judges do become the finders of fact in a bench trial.
@Waheed Abbas that's the rub. They couldn't prove that Caylee was actually murdered. Her cause of death is "undetermined" officially. It's really hard to prove murder when you can't prove the deceased WAS murdered.
0 likes@Dominic Gallegos How lonvbis tbe statute of limitations?
0 likes@hannah michaels they did. She went to trial, was found not guilty. They can't come after her again even if they find definitive proof or even if she confesses.
0 likes@hannah michaels the problem is that they DIDN'T have overwhelming evidence. They don't even know how Caylee died. Her cause of death officially is "undetermined". That is a big hurdle in a murder case.
0 likes@Kenneth Polido thank you! If they can't prove Caylee was murdered, or even how she died at all, it's a huge hurdle to get to a murder conviction. It's hard to say " She murdered her" when you can't even prove she WAS murdered.
0 likes@Agapē what do you think a trial is? You are trying to sway a jury to your way of thinking. You act as though this is something new? It is literally every trial ever.
0 likesWait, so she somehow was found not guilty? This is a spoiler for me but like, HOW?
0 likesI'm only 15 minutes in, how the actual F is she found innocent.
0 likes@PeekaPlaysPC not in this case. She has been tried and found not guilty. The 5th amendment provides protection against being prosecuted more than once for the same crime. She could admit it tomorrow and not a thing could be done to put her in jail.
0 likesI had to go to the comments mid video bro
0 likes@Ré on murder: there is not one. But Casey is free from ever being charged again.
0 likes@A. B.D. this ain't CSI. DNA doesn't last 5 months in a swamp
0 likesIt could have been Juliette Lewis or Woody Harrelson
0 likesNot dumbfounded, juries are often stacked with fools. But I am angry.
0 likes🖐🏻🖐🏼🖐🏽🖐🏾🖐🏿 I speak for all races
0 likesUnbelievable that she was found not guilty. She talks about her daughter in past tense then catches herself.
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0 likeslegally, it makes sense. being found not guilty of child abuse, though, is one i really cannot understand
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1 likeSad for all of us, that do not believe in such fairytales.
This woman lives a happy and free live and paid for that with the life of her innocent daughter.
End of story. Failure of justice.
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0 likes@Dominic Gallegos what are your thoughts on her being found not guilty of child abuse
0 likes@Tim Skully pretty much the same. There wasn't a lot of evidence of anything specific outside of lying. They definitely over/mis-charg3d her for what they had.
0 likesIt’s Florida what’d you expect
1 like@Marwan Alkhalil no, that was a good attorney.
0 likes@gunnerzz11 theres no possible way to unfortunately.
0 likesShe wasnt????? I am at 15 minutes and i spoilered myself.
0 likes@Woody There is a term for that. They call it "evil." Sad for you indeed. There are consequences for ones actions. Only a fool would believe that those would not carry over after ones inevitable demise.
0 likes@dennis martin And I think only a fool would believe that some invisible magic thing will just deal with all of ones problems,
0 likesWait? What!?!? I’m only 10 minutes in and after reading this comment I want to turn it off!
0 likesThe thing is you have to prove she did it without any doubt , which they didn’t cause it could’ve been any of them near her , not much proof Casey did it
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0 likesNo proof fam, this video was shown to us in the perspective that "we already know she did it" but there is no proof ever in the video that she ever did anything to her daughter.
0 likes@narwhal i want to like your comment fam, but its at 69 likes
0 likes@dennis martin i am an atheist and dont believe hell exists
1 likewomen privilege. im not surprised.
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0 likesWell spoiler in the comments, fawwwkkk
0 likesWell, I am - but then again, I wasn't there in the court room. Looking at this video alone, I would agree with you 100% - and also I suspect it's more of a fuck-up of the prosecution and brilliance of the defence. But at the end of the day, it is innocent until proven guilty, and if we let the media convict people, we're going to hell in a handbasket.
0 likesMe near the end, not seeing the verdict yet: 💀
0 likesTerrible prosecution, world class defense
0 likesThe jury is to blame
0 likes@Woody That Sir was much the attitude of one Casey Anthony.
0 likesShe and the lawyer must've paid the jurors to say she was not guilty, there is no way in HEEELLLL the jurors really believed she was innocent without being persuaded by money in the background somehow
0 likes@Hunter Williams I think Casey could be a great lawyer 🥴
0 likesThey should reopen the case because that’s ridiculous
0 likesShe had to give the jury some of that weed before this trial.
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0 likesThat's what happens when your parents help cover it up as well as have a father with connections to law enforcement and the legal system.
0 likesYea cus she was innocent
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1 likejustice was not fucking served that day and I am so dumbfounded.
0 likesNo way she wasn’t
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0 likesIt's disgusting and makes me so angry. How the hell did that little girl not get justice
0 likesThis is why you should make cases private then make them public after the trial
0 likesIm not, if you watch the trial, Jose Baez did an outstanding job creating reasonable doubt.
0 likesfrom what I've read they thought the evidence was not 'beyond a reasonable doubt' even though they knew she was a terrible person.
0 likesIt's absolutely insane, as someone not from America, I heard about Casey Anthony referenced sometimes, but didn't know how the trial ended, I was so blown away to see it worked, crooked lawyers at work here, no ethics at all, double standards all the way, this is insane.
0 likes@Hunter Williams she must have fulfilled all the deepest darkest fantasies of her bad @$$ lawyer
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0 likesCareful there boy.
Everyone can believe what they want. But dare not compare me with that witch. You are not superior based on your belief. You have no monopoly on truth.
@Woody Didn't say I did. I stated the obvious. I didn't compare you to shit. I just called a spade, a spade. Many fools feel as if they're in the clear, as long as they don't get caught. Did you not state that earlier?
0 likes@Woody Anyway I thought you didn't believe in "fairy tales," and there you go referring to "witches."
0 likes@dennis martin I knew you would play this semantic game. Thank you for confirming my suspicion of you being an incredibly small-minded individual. You were just too predictable.
0 likesI’m not astonished at all, did you hear that lawyer’s closing speech? Satan has this guy on speed-dial.
0 likesBecause she is an attractive woman. Nothing you can say will convince me otherwise
0 likes@Clint.Beastwood there are many attractive women currently sitting in prison. For murder. I would agree that being attractive likely did not hurt her case, but I also believe there was much more at play here than simply her good looks.
0 likesThe entire story, including where she is and what she is doing currently, still leaves me wondering WHAAAAAT?!!
@Amy Shadle yeah something is very suspicious about the entire case, I wish I never rewatched this story cause now I’m just mad all over again
2 likes@Clint.Beastwood I hear you. I'm sucked in every last time with Casey, Jodi...
0 likes...Chris Watts videos, to name just a few.
@A. B.D. unless she asks for forgiveness right????
0 likes@A. B.D. he took the case pro Bono. There was reports from people inside his office saying they found Casey naked in the office. How true that is I don't know because it was on the news and it could've been some cretin trying to get some fame off the situation. But I do believe that story.
0 likes@Hunter Williams connection's- probably freemason
0 likesWhy are y’all surprised she got away with it
0 likesThey overcharged her based on the evidence available. Had they charged her with felony neglect and negligent homicide she would be in prison right now. Instead they tried for Murder 1 which they could never prove beyond a reasonable doubt. The prosecutor should have been fired.
1 like@Worldwide Wyatt I tend to agree, at least in general terms, but it doesn't really settle my mind in terms of all the lying, years of it, how so many around her seem(ed) to be avoiding the truth or were in such deep denial...
0 likes...and this question will always haunt me. Why not simply leave the baby for her parents to raise as they already were to some extent, why not simply take less and less responsibility for Caylee as they would undoubtedly assume more and more responsibility, all while allowing her to live as the self-centered person she always was and always will be? Just why?!
Yes
1 like@indiciaobscure this has nothing to do with race just stop
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0 likes@Hunter Williams idk how the hell even a top notch attorney could get you out of this one...
0 likesis that real? not 1 dislike? crazy
0 likes@King Savage Casey has that power...❤️
1 likeIt's disgusting, but there was not one shred of actual evidence against her. She committed the perfect crime.
0 likes@Lola S she led the cops and them on an entire wild goose chase that she really didn’t face any repercussions for anymore. It’s wild how she completely cleaned up everything basically
0 likes@Lola S i wouldnt say perfect, cause its beyond reasonable doubt she did it.
0 likesEvery person on the planet.
0 likesWait she found not guilty 😮
0 likesEveryone is like “cos she had a good lawyer”
0 likesNah. He ain’t good. That’s a corrupt, intelligent, lying, conniving lawyer.
shes innocent
0 likesIn any justice system some guilty ones have to go free to make sure many innocents aren't don't get locked up
0 likes@A. B.D. not after being in the water for that long
0 likesOnly in florida...
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0 likesI live in Central Florida and my ex mother in law lived just 5 miles from where the Anthony's lived. We watched this all unfold every single day on every local news channel. I was actually in the jury pool but they never got to my number. I wish I had been picked. There would've at least been a hung jury. One of the biggest problems was they went for 1st Degree murder. If they hadn't, she would've been convicted. And as for her lawyer, she paid him with sex (all while accusing her father of sexually molesting her). This case makes me soooo angry!!! 😡🤬😭
0 likes@weathered insomniac Do you know where she lives at now?
1 like@El Serratos Yeah. She's in West Palm Beach, FL. She works for a private investigator firm taking pictures and she also does personal photography. She recently got into a quarrel of sorts at a bar she frequents there. Someone threw a drink on her and called her a murderer. She's ruined so many lives. Her dad is in bad health and even tried to kill himself, twice. And her parents are still together, but they don't really associate. Her mom is still supportive. Her dad wants nothing to do with her (can't imagine why 🙄).
1 like@weathered insomniac Got it, that should be more than enough info :)
0 likesWelcome to Democrat Party's America.
1 likeThe prosecutors seriously blundered this one.
1 likeWTF NOT GUILTY?!!
0 likesCalled being a women.......do legit ANYTHING you want and get away with it but they sit there and make a HUGEEEEEEEE deal about being treated equal
1 likeYeah, it seems like, according to this video, there was a lot of evidence that was just thrown out the window at the end.
0 likesWhy would you need duct tape for a dead body?
What about the internet searches?
What about the diary entry?
Wtf
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0 likesI was, until the end to be honest... i even did some digging and found out the duct tape was heart shaped. What if she did get sexually abused at 8 and that caused her to have a personality disorder, she could possibly have this fake character who is a pathological liar. And even in the diary, she could be referring to the fact that she burried the body instead of coming forward. This is all speculation tho! I dont really know what to believe
0 likesI am DISGUSTED by the jury. I don't know if it happened, but I pray their names came out and they are called monsters to this day.
0 likesI hope her daughter is gonna be her final prosecutor😥
0 likesBecause the American justice system is extremely racist and flawed
0 likes@Lost Shadow Not going to work. Double jeapordy protection.
0 likes@Nick Gibbs That would require a constitutional amendment.
0 likes@indiciaobscure nothing to do with white. She’s a very committed sociopath. Most people would have caved under all that pressure, but her denial game was strong.
2 likes@A. B.D. I would like to know that to. I would like to know how much an attorney of that level would cost xD
0 likesAbsolutely disgusted over here. I wanna smack some jurors around. “She drowned and then had duct tape wrapped around her face.” Unbelievable.
0 likesIt’s Florida…
0 likesIm litterally disgusted by those jury
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0 likesThanks for spoilers...
0 likesMan I'm still pissed to this day that she got away with it
0 likesi mean yeah, but at the same time, its a jury of florida man, sssooo where is the bar really set?(i say this as someone born and raised in florida)
0 likesWould have been easier to convict her in Florida if they referred to it as an abortion.
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0 likesWhat if she was black
0 likesI have never hated someone I don’t know so much.
0 likesI never get the reason behind having jurors and a jury to determine a crime. You have professionals who do this for a living, but instead of using professional, you get a dozen ordinary people, majority of them are idiots, to make a decision. Fucking ridiculous.
0 likesLazy ,,stupid jurors out of St Petersburg .
0 likesI'm just fucking appalled.
1 like@indiciaobscure "cute"
0 likesThis trial should have ended when the lawyer said "she led senior investigators to the end of her job and said, I don't work here..."
0 likesThis is one of the most interesting and infuriating cases of all time...
@dennis martin sure thing mate
0 likes@Carter Hostetler those were not out of context lol
0 likesIf I search for how to make a bomb and then something related to me blows up by a home made bomb...
Absolutely scandalous that this p.o.s got away with killing her daughter. She was clearly guilty.
1 likeI watched a video explaining how it's because they went for 1st degree murder and that if they would have went for 2nd degree murder she would have been guilty... kinda crazy but I guess they had enough for 2nd degree but they went for 1st degree cuz I think they were trying to go for the death penalty or sum...
0 likesWow she literally got away with murder
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1 likeI couldn't handle the thought of my negligence hurting my pet...and this.
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0 likes👐🏻🙌🏻👏🏻👍🏻👊🏻✊🏼🤘🏼🖖🏻🤚🏼🖐🏼✋🏻 take all the hands I have
1 likeI was so angry watching this play out on the news! Literally all the signs pointed to guilty.. But damn.. that attorney was good. I find it so crazy how people can just let a murderer walk freely..
1 likeShe's far too hot to be guilty.
0 likesWait what????
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0 likesAbsolutely destroyed my brain cells watching this happen in real life
0 likesi still just don’t understand why she showed no emotion towards her child’s death and wasn’t guilt. AND why is no one talking about her remains found in a blanket? WTF
0 likes@Carter Hostetler the Google searches were never brought into evidence because they weren't checked. The police didn't know that Firefox was an internet browser, so they didn't check it, only her internet explorer searches.
0 likesMy mind is blown by it. Blown.
0 likesFlorida is the only place in the US where you can convince people with the idea of conspiracy that a murder with iron clad evidence did not happen...... gotta leave this world behind
0 likes@gunnerzz11 Why do you wish a 100% foolproof lie detector would only be used for murder trials?
0 likes@shashlik81 Wow this is an old comment section. If you were to search for, “How to make a bomb” and a homemade bomb incident occurs that is related to you, it wouldn’t be harsh incriminating evidence. Google searches are used in court more as a way of showing someone’s character, not as a proof of guilt (that’s mostly anecdotal but i’m sure that would check out empirically)
1 likespoiler alertttt
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1 like26 thousand people agree with you...
2 likes@indiciaobscure minus the cute
0 likesI am struggling to watch this and still can't believe she got away with murdering her daughter. Makes me furious. Caylee deserved better.
0 likesAfter the Chauvin trial just believe that people are dumb
0 likesso sad. if the prosecution's final words were a reminder of the search history and duct tape suffocation, it may have been enough. but ofc they cannot be faulted for the shitty manipulation the defence team practiced
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0 likes@IAmWhomUPray2 😂😂😂
0 likesI mean obviously!
I couldn't believe my ears..
1 likeSame with George Zimmerman. He should be rotting in prison for murder too... actually I believe it was a hate crime if you listen to his string of 911 calls.
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1 likeIf you know anything about the case and law then you would know why she got found not guilty. She didn't get found innocent. The prosecution fucked up. Everyone in that jury would tell you that they believe she killed her daughter. But the evidence fucking sucked. Looking at this it seems like it's a lot, but when you're creating a first degree murder case and such, you have to prove within a reasonable doubt that it happened exactly like you're trying to portray. They didn't have a cause of death, they didn't have fingerprints, there was plenty of evidence to show that she knew something but if there's any doubt that she did everything that they're saying, they can't vote guilty. The defense raised a ton of reasonable doubt. But here's the thing, what if her boyfriend chloroformed her? And then the girl died. Did Casey cover it up? Yep did Casey do something wrong? Yep did Casey do the murder? Nope. That right there is reasonable doubt. I don't think she tried to kill her. I think she tried to knock her out so she could go party and she accidentally killed her. I would have voted not guilty as well. And I would bet my entire life savings my house that she killed her daughter. But it wouldn't be enough to vote guilty in the case that was presented.
0 likes@Thicker Constrictor you're writing style is much like mine, all the points you've made similar if not spot on to mine; you're very much "preaching to the choir." My words have everything to do with what I believe in my heart to be true, and I will likely never be at peace with the results of her trial, even as I am familiar with the case and know why things likely turned out as they did.
0 likes"Show of hands, who is STILL absolutely DEVASTATED by, FRUSTRATED with, SICK over this outcome?"
This is what I might have written instead because the death of Caylee was so tragic, so unnecessary, and I will always believe Casey played a significant role...
I would put both hands up but they’re busy trying to pick my jaw up off the floor from when the verdict was read out. 😳
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1 like@calvin liggett 😂😂😂
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1 like@KH_QFT I mean, going for that first degree, though. That was the downfall, I think...such a disappointment she's not in jail FOREVER.
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1 likeThey should’ve discussed findings of the autopsy during that trial. Huge flaw in the argument that Caylee drowned when she was found with duck tape around her mouth, along with the car smelling like a dead corpse and the diary submission stating “I’ve made the right decision”. A guilty Caysee walks scott free.
0 likesIt wasn’t the defense attorney that won it. It was the prosecutions failure that lost it.
0 likesMe!! It makes me want to throw up.
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0 likes@Snoochie Boochies Forget about Batman, we need Dexter.
0 likesWtf
0 likesbotched prosecution
1 likeNot enough hands here
1 like✋I'm also waiting for the defense to explain the duct tape, the diary entries, the tattoo she had done WHILE HER DAUGHTER WAS STILL MISSING, why she went out PARTYING of all things while her daughter was still missing, the smell of a DEAD BODY in the car trunk, the car itself, why she lied about her business trip, why she kept making up people, including the babysitter, why she didn't seem at all concerned about her daughter, her google searches about suffocation, the list goes on.
1 like@Ashley Brown preach. 🙌
0 likesIf it was a man he would've gotten charged, the "justice" system is incredibly lenient on women. Women get charged less time for the same exact crimes as men and the media wouldn't of let this slide had it been a man, he would've been held accountable
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1 likeBelieve me, if she did this in some places outside the USA, the baby's paternal family would have handled the situation in a very different way.
6 likesCan't believe she was found not guilty ,the verdict feels like it's coming from a bunch of people who don't a clue about the facts !
10 likesCaseys lawyer is what saved her. He did the most immaculate job of distracting them from any potentially damning evidence (Caylees taoed mouth, Caseys interrogation tapes and so on...) by capitalising on the "importance" of the fact that there was no proof of how Caylee died. He almost had me convinced tbh. And it really shows how - when it comes to a jury - its all about which lawyer can stir up the best story regardless of the evidence that can prove otherwise.
1 likeIt baffles me why she couldn't just leave Caylee with her grandparents if she didn't want her.
5 likesI can’t even believe that she got away. What a terrible person. Killed her daughter and threw her family under the bus to get away from it. And I saw people on social media defending her too. Unbelievable
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Bullshit. That’s speculation lol
13 likes@Alan Gantala he’s got a point, but not a valid provable point. It’s proven that juries tend to take it easier on semi-attractive white young women. At this point, it’s anyone’s guess on why she actually got away with it.
190 likesIts unbelievable how much she LIED and still got away with it. Blows my mind til this day
234 likesThe jury had to be like the ones from the movie let's go to prison
19 likes@Hilary Tsai No it isn't.
19 likesshe has an address. make her remember
37 likes@Insider Outlet I can't say but she can't be like this without having been through so much trauma herself.
3 likes@Insider Outlet I didn't say it is okay. I'm saying that she needs help, prison is gonna do no good
2 likes@Rebecca Sings She's pure evil, "help" isn't going to bring Caylee back to life
41 likes@Insider Outlet definitely doesn't excuse it, shes evil but it could be true considering most people don't get this evil and heartless without some type of childhood trauma
3 likesShe got the "pretty white girl " pass
35 likesi saw multiple instagram "fan" accounts for her the other day. disgusting.
9 likes@egg mcmuffin neither is her going to prison. What's the use? But getting her help will help her to not suffer as much. She could heal her wounds
2 likes@egg mcmuffin exactly. That's why she needs help, man
1 like@Rebecca Sings she can get help while she's in prison so that her eyes can be opened to how vicious she was to caylee and she can finally drown in guilt instead of being heartless and remorseless, but she should NOT be allowed back into society. she is truly evil. prison will atleast let her feel a fraction of the suffering she inflicted on caylee.
27 likes@egg mcmuffin donno if prison will do that. It's probably gonna add up to the trauma. And she is going to get what she had done when she gets started on her healing journey. And I didn't say she should get back to her normal life. Nobody is truly evil. I hope she gets the help she needs so that she can get better
1 like@Rebecca Sings the help she so desperately wanted was disco dancing, booze, a boyfriend, tattoos and smoking pot. Honey, stop the bs excuses...
29 likes@Rebecca Sings yes, some people ARE truly evil, and casey is an example. caylee will never get a chance to heal. to laugh, to smile, to feel joy again. she will never get a chance to "get better". casey stole that possibility from her. she's gone forever, all because of casey. i hope she drowns in guilt, although i know a heartless person like her could never fathom remorse. it's crazy how much sympathy evil people get. scary actually.
28 likes@Princess E Ville they're not bs. It's facts. Trauma did this to the lady and you're completely refusing to see that. I'm not saying what she did was okay. I'm saying that she needs help. Try to understand what trauma does if it's not healed
1 like@Princess E Ville that person is one those naive people who think peace and love fixes everything and that evil people "just need love 🥺💕". its clear she sympathizes with casey and wants to paint her as some sort of helpless victim. those kinds of people think they're being "progressive" or something
25 likes@egg mcmuffin it's funny how we think we know everything. Anyways, have a good night or day. There's no point in continuing this conversation. Peace 👋
1 like@Zach Foster I wouldn’t have been able to get away with it as a black woman 💀 🤦♀️
10 likes@Rebecca Sings couldnt care less about a murderer healing, and baffling how anyone could give a shit about that
16 likes@Cryforequanimity ....Yes it is. Where's your proof?
0 likes@Playing with FUSION ikr.?? I mean wtf is going on? She murders a poor, innocent, defenseless child and people STILL side with HER..?? So if I took a life today, then what..?? I should just get some counseling and boom I’m fixed..?! If I remember correctly, most serial killers also had some sick, rough trauma from their childhood. But hey, I guess we were wrong, right? Looks like all they needed was a therapy session with Dr. Phil lol
12 likes@Insider Outlet I think that's the point, that neither you nor I nor anybody knows. When did she admit she murdered her child?
0 likes@Rebecca Sings Are you one of those lunatics that believes any accusation of sexual misconduct from a woman, regardless of overwhelming evidence and a history or constant lies? What more could she possible have done than murdering her own daughter and then go partying after while writing in her diary it was the right decision for her before she doesn't deserve to be believed at face value?
11 likesSome people just are evil, we call them sociopaths. They have zero regard for anyone but themselves. Our Prisons are full of them because for almost all of them their nature eventually catches up to them.
Actually, I think it was probably an accident. And then she didn't want to take responsibility for it because she is a spoiled, selfish, immature child. I highly doubt that she planned to murder her daughter, though. Why would she? Her parents were already taking care of her daughter whenever she wanted, and also supporting her. She wasn't tied down by her child at all. She wasn't living like a poor single mom on welfare. There is no motive. I think it was an accident.
1 like@Thomas Fisher we find the denfendant quilty
0 likesFor me, I feel like the fact that she didn’t call for help is enough to put her in jail. It’s like neglect if you ask me. She never said they threatened Her if he called the cops she just didn’t because she was afraid of what would happen. Which is fucking stupid. This isn’t a movie. Unless they say don’t call the cops, you call the cops. She didn’t call the cops because she killed Caylee, or because she really did drown in the pool and didn’t wanna seem like a bad mom or murder which to me is still jail worthy. Not to mention the lies and google searches that came after the fact. Smh. I hope there really is a hell😂
5 likes@Insider Outlet where is the evidence. all I see in this video is speculation though
0 likes@Rebecca Sings she doesn’t need help or to get better. She needs to rot in jail for killing her child
4 likes@Hilary Tsai The worse thing is she never pursuit the nanny that killed her daughter. She just care about herself and didn't hunt down the murderer.
0 likesCasey Anthony and oj Simpson are as innocent as Derek chauvin is guilty
0 likes@Buck Since there is no such place, not much sense in hoping.
0 likes@michael deats peak troll comment. I r8 8/8 nice b8 m8.
2 likes@Charles Panache OMG MY FIRST YOUTUBE INTERNET STRANGER COMPLEMENT!!!
0 likesunbelievable how one can defend her. Her family has all my sympathy.💜
2 likes@Rebecca Sings She should have gotten help before she had a child. No excuse, judgement must be hard on people like her.
0 likesNo proofs no jail unfortunately this is how they do it , makes me sick her lawyer is a pro i m beyond disgust
2 likesShe got away from jail but she will get what she deserves someday somehow, bad guys never win.
2 likes@Fushigi Kennels that's true, karma is real...and i heard she became a christian.
0 likesI remember this case. I followed it when it first happened. I didn't realize she was this emotionless and uncaring. I didn't know she lead them on a wild goose chase like this. It's crazy
0 likesIt boggles my mind that this verdict could have been reached, by any jury who listened to the evidence, just from this video alone! The original 911 call and interviews with police are enough to convince me she is guilty, period, unless some groundbreaking evidence proved her innocence beyond any doubt!
0 likesIts why people can absolutely detest lawyers (even though I understand the system has to work this way, but the question then comes, who's idea was it to go the whole father molestation route!, and I can't imagine this was anything but her lawyers, so while I understand they have to defend her with all there capabilities, the ethics side of it would say, stick to just truth and facts).
Watching this makes me want to be Judge Dredd. I'd get rid of the lawyers, and Casey for there evil, and the entire jury for being next level stupid, and a complete waste of resource on society!
I was so disgusted when she gave that little smirk when she was declared not guilty ( 1:05:55 )
7 likesIstg she started crying to cover it up 🤦🏽♀️
How she got away from killing her daughter is so disturbing as there was so much evidence to prove that she did kill Caylee…
She lies so smoothly it's scary and dangerous to be around or have kids around a person like this . It's like second nature 99 percent of people would think it's real . Not saying the emotions match but her word play is insanely convincing
3 likesIt's heartbreaking to know that she accused her dad in court for grape/molestation after seeing the phone call with her parents (while he wore the T-Shirt of Caylee). He was genuinely worried about her and tries to provide words of comfort, and she completely betrayed him. I cannot believe this vile and malicious person was not charged with anything. Fucking disappointing!
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hoorible! I feel so sorry for the father and we all know she hasnt been aboused, if anything she has been spoiled by her parents. Her patents seem like good ppl who wanted to inow the truth. They have my sympathy.
168 likes@Betty but we don’t really know if she was abused or not
130 likes@Adriann who do you believe,the chronic liar who lied about every bit of the story and went partying after her daughter died ? also, since we dont know if its true, is it fair to assume the father did that to her just bec she said so ?
355 likesin Europe, a judge would insist that this allegation has 1)nothing to do with her behaviour (not reporting her daughter missing, lying, putting duct tape on her daughters mouth, hiding a body, etc)
2) would not excuse her crime anyway
She isnt the first Suspect who puts on the victim face in the courtroom. its also not fair to all the people who actually had to go thru abuse.
@Betty I don’t know to believe her or not because we literally do not know. Only her and her dad know if she was abused or not (I think). Obviously say what you want about your opinion on believing her but I guess I can’t form one either way on the alleged abuse. I totally agree with what you are saying though like I’m not trying to say abuse justifies what she did to her daughter, I’m just saying that me and you personally don’t know if it’s true or not. Is it possible or even likely she was lying? Yeah. But there’s the chance she wasn’t lying too.
98 likesI actually am a victim so I know it’s not fair when people lie about it. Definitely not trying to argue with you I agree with the points you made for sure and I’m not excusing her crime away or anything like that. My only point is we just don’t know 100% for sure about the abuse.
Have a good day :)
@Adriann
37 likesIm sorry to hear that.
Her case makes me upset every time, it was not about you, apologies.
Have a good day, too.
Finally someone who goes for that tangent, was already reading through lots of comments and wondering why nobody mentioned that. It seems like total BS. Throwing her dad under the bus like that! But one thing is certain, the defense attorney knows how to manipulate the jury without facts. She should have become a defense attorney instead of presumedly killing her child.
72 likes@Lona Dash it's kind of true obviously not all woman but most do always blame rape or sa
2 likes@Tina Witte funny enough you say that. She started a business called Case Research & Consulting Services LLC. I know its not a lawyer but the business claims to want to help other people who are facing serious legal charges
3 likes@Allan Couceiro what made you think something was off when the parents visited her? Jw
4 likes@Retaliationeffort the way he spoke to her, even in that dire situation, "hey gorgeous". Also, they're pretending like everything is normal, everything is ok... they seemed practised at ignoring the situation. Not sure what else I can put my finger on, but I definitely got the feeling.
13 likes@Ana Dubar : that'd be feasible if not all the other things about the case that suggest Casey Anthony made that crap up.
5 likesIf you look at the evidence not presented in court it's clear that Caylee died while Casey was on the phone and Grandpa was watching TV, by opening the back door and sprinting to the pool (which is why Caylee died of drowning). Casey ended her phonecall and within five minutes googled drowning resuscitation techniques followed by suicide methods, but she did so from Firefox, the browser the family regularly used, not IE, the browser the pill evidence came from. Grandpa feared Grandma would divorce him over the neglect, and buried Caylee where he buried the family's pets, with tape and materials found in the grandparents' house, and a few things that might have been impromptu grave goods. There's also a lot of ignored evidence like testimony that Casey was despondent most of the day Caylee went missing, and incidents of her friends finding her up in the middle of the night crying for hours and writing goodbye letters to Caylee on her phone. Or how it's often overlooked that she worked at a bar that has employees participate in "partying" as part of the place's appeal. But in the charade Grandpa and Grandma ended up on the side of the prosecution, Casey on the defense. This is why the prosecution failed despite the court system generally favoring prosecution and Casey already being a national pariah; they weren't able to make a case based in reality, because the truth was split between two completely different people on opposite sides of the trial. Casey probably made that up because she felt betrayed by her father, who should have gone down with her. They have a history as an entire family of avoiding problems; when Casey was pregnant they all put up a charade of pretending she wasn't. They're probably just weird, avoidant, irresponsible people moreso than coldhearted killers.
8 likes@Tova and how do you know all this, if it wasn't presented in court? Also, why duct-tape a drowned girl's mouth?
29 likes@Ana Dubar stop always saying someone’s parents is how they are. I doubt the grandfather did any of that. She only brings it up so she’s not found as the murderer of her daughter. She’s horrible it has nothing to do with her parents.
8 likes@Tova : I've read a few articles on the case, including Wikipedia, and almost none of that is mentioned. If you're being honest, your source is a Casey homer who's lying to you.
21 likes@Tova Source: Casey told me 😌✅
26 likesGrape molestation is the worst kind
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15 likesShe didn’t look up drowning resuscitation. She looked up peaceful suffocation and her father was already at work when she looked it up so he could t have been there pulling Kaylee out of the pool. You failed
She accused her dad for….grape..?😳
2 likes@MrShanester117 I know. I’m a victim of that. Well, not serious enough to grape molestation in court, but orange molestation is almost as bad as grape molestation… I’ll never be the same…
3 likes@Allan Couceiro me too. “Hey gorgeous” set off alarm bells then she says something about how awful she looks. Why care what you look like to your dad? Weird.
5 likes@Archie Snownose what? I’m having a hard time understanding how that set off any alarms. Why is it wrong for a father to call his daughter gorgeous? Tons of loving parents around the world have different little nicknames that they use to call their kids. Its just a sign of affection. The mother kept calling her “sweetheart”. “Gorgeous” is just another nickname. And her comment about her appearance is like the equivalent to saying “haha yeah right”. During the majority of the time that she is on camera, she displays a calm and relaxed manner. She laughs at the cops jokes and doesn’t to seem that bothered by her daughter’s disappearance. It doesn’t seem like she is uncomfortable with her dads presence.
24 likesRIGHT!!!!!!!
0 likes@Archie Snownose it’s completely normal for fathers to compliment their children’s appearance? What are you on about?
10 likes@Allan Couceiro wdym by that? many father compliment their childrens appearences to make them feel happier. My father still calls me names like princess till this day because it made me feel happier and special. Some people may feel uncomfy with being called names like that but casey looks totally fine with her dad.
6 likes@quit this channel lol it looks like blurred boundaries to me.
1 likeSo horrible. All of it.
1 likeEven if it was a lie, which it still might not have been, did she really betray him? I think many parents would gladly be labelled a molester if it meant giving their child a higher chance of avoiding life (or whatever) in prison
0 likes@Alex Vischer really?
4 likesWe don’t know that but you also have to do what hey lawyer said, put your a emotions apart from the case or the situation. Just because he wore that t-shirt and he seems to be nice doesn’t mean he didn’t do it and I’m not saying that he did it…
2 likes@Archie Snownose There is absolutely nothing abnormal about a father referring to his daughter by a pronoun like “gorgeous”. I get that it’s being used in the shady context of a suspected murder here. But if something like that’s setting off alarm bells, I’d probably end up being “suspicious” of most of the parents I’ve ever met.
6 likes@Blinkysaurus Rex Donald Trump said Ivanka is gorgeous and that he'd date her if she wasn't his daughter. He went on to become president of the USA. 😬
4 likes@Epic Gilgamesh that doesn't have anything to do with this? and millions of parents compliment their childrens' looks to make them feel better?
0 likes@then perish Why did you write your reply as two questions instead of two statements? Trump really does love the poorly educated.
0 likes@Adriann BALONEY. You are excusing her crime.
1 like@Aqua Aura lol how am I doing that???
0 likes@Aqua Aura ok you’re the expert 👌
0 likes@Rollin' Stone drop the g
0 likes@Casey PhelpsTake a joke
1 likeEven if she was abused (which she wasn't), that's not a reason or even justification to kill your kid
8 likes@Epic Gilgamesh tf are you on about lmao
0 likesNo one can say for sure whether it happened or not but I don’t know that I believe that happened I can more likely see emotional neglect dad was and ex cop probably not around a lot or emotionally distant once he got home (this is just speculation bc my grandpa was an ex sheriff) even though she’s an adult and now makes her own decisions he parents kinda had a role in how she is now
0 likes@Adriann Your thought process was the exact goal of the defense. Confuse, Manipulate and cause doubt...
1 likeI wish there were a way to like this comment twice!
0 likesIt's a tragedy that even with all tr he evidence, there wasn't justice served. Her lawyer saying she drowned in a swimming pool is so stupid because she was found with tape on her nose and mouth in a SWAMP a mile away from her house. Why he say swimming pool? And why did the jury overlook that very important fact?
1 like@quit this channel lol More than that, when Casey's dad starts apologising, Casey outright said he's a great dad.
1 likeI’m surprised they couldn’t charge her with negligence or obstruction of justice considering her new story was that she drowned in a pool and then lied to the authorities about it
3 likesIt was the jury’s despicable decision to set her free .
1 like@Adriann sorry to hear that as well. Child abuse or any traumatic event in formative years can have the most devastating consequences in later life. I don’t know if her father abused her but it would explain the blatant pathological lying and borderline personality. Something just happens to a child when they go through something like that. It scars them mentally and is extremely common trait with child abuse victims. However, the death of Caycee is extremely sad and in no way an excuse. I think she should have been guilty of something at the very least manslaughter.
0 likes@Blinkysaurus Rex Facts, we don't know about her father, and what he did or did not.
0 likesShe is s compulsive liar so it is most likely lie but we can't know for sure.
I know just being called "gorgeous" by your own father is not alarming but I wanna say that even the ones that look the most lovingly parents could be abusive ones too.
Because I was abused by my father for over 10years and he was the only person I used to trust, he was my best friend and I couldn't understand why he would hurt me.
Then I realized he seemed to care about just to convince me to trust him...
So we can't be sure of anything.
Her father could also be just as manipulative as she is.
Or not. We. Don't.Know.
@Adriann There is no reason to believe that she was abused. That whole thing was a defense tactic.
1 like@Adriann How come she did not bring up the abuse until it became a story that could save her skin, and Casey never claimed she was abused. Her lawyer claimed she was abused. The accusation never came from Casey's own lips
1 like@Helen Stockman I agree there's no reason to believe it but also just saying is not true for sure, without any information is also something we can't do.
0 likesIt came out of nowhere so it's suspicious but we just don't have enough information, and most important of it all, I think it being true or false shouldn't have absolutely anything to do with the case.
He wanted to paint her as a victim but we also know abused people many times becomes the abuser.
It's stupid how no one looked it differently and didn't take it as an indication of her insanity.
And about she not talking about it before it, if you knew better you'd know that a lot of people stay quiet about it their entire life.
But anyways, it just shouldn't be a decisive matter in this case.
Being molested or not doesn't make her innocent or guilty. It could equally work both ways.
I can only echo what you said. This is a disgusting miscarriage of justice. She killed her child. She lied about her loving father in the most heinous way imaginablele. She treated her friend like crap. And she walked? There was no justice in that case.
0 likesThose poor grapes...
0 likes@Allan Couceiro - I’ve always felt that something was very ‘off’ about the family, but couldn’t put my finger on it, but I do remember that it came out at the time that despite the Mom taking Herculean efforts to prevent Casey from ending her pregnancy as she was going to do, that seemed to be the first and last thing she advocated for that baby girl. If I personally had a daughter that I felt I had to drag kicking and screaming away from the Clinic (which I would never do!) but if I did, I would’ve taken the baby myself; which seems like partial guilt for the Mother who felt so strongly against her daughter’s decision to terminate (again, unnatural to me as I just wouldn’t force anyone) - even if I was a very selfish Mom who wanted a Grandkid at any cost, and then never interfered again? It doesn’t follow.
0 likesI am aware that for some Mothers, the mere idea that you’re going to be a Grandmother is just about the biggest cherry you can top your life off with, but in the end, if you have any sense of being honest with yourself, the reason people get all excited about having Grandkids is because you finally get a kid you can enjoy playing around with and then send them home. All play without the work. In this case, Casey told her Mother she wasn’t ready yet, over and over.
That’s the weird part, at least for me. The Mother seemed pretty much vacant to me.
@RINA - mine only mention my appearances if it’s off! Now that’s normal to me, as they think nobody else would
0 likes@Allan Couceiro - yes. You would do almost anything to do that. It’s a really weird thing that just happens when you have a kid; this is why it’s so despicable
0 likesWorst part is, he’d probably go with that lie just so his daughter could live a better life. crazy.
0 likesI was watching this video and when her lawyer make accusation against her dad, my jaw dropped. The verdict was more shocking
0 likes@STRONGEST NATTY IN THE WORLD. I have heard it was Orange one. The Worst…Poor grape..
0 likes@Alex Vischer What tf..? Are you insane? I’m a parent of 15yr old daughter And If I found that she had a baby which she killed And then accuse ME for worst thing what human Can do, hell to the nah I fucking wouldn’t ”gladly” be a sex offender….So, again, what. a. Fuck. ???????
0 likes@Rollin' Stone I didn't say you would gladly be a sex offender. I said there are some people who would if it meant saving their daughter from a life in prison, and obviously, it depends on circumstances. I don't see how you can refute this. It has nothing to do with you, personally lol
0 likesThe way she kept shaking her head "no" every time the prosecutor told the truth about her... It made me despise her. I wish the judge had told her to either stop it or get on the witness stand and testify. No silent "testimony" allowed.
5 likesthe google search she did and the lies she planted, was an obvious case. I don't know what in the world made her not guilty. Just because the poor body rotted so much that it conclealed the truth.... Otherwise she would have been guilty long ago.... I don't admit this kind of justice...
2 likesCassey made up a name and said she was Kaylee’s nanny . As a result the police tracked this South American woman down . And people thought she was guilty of harming Kaylee . She had never met Kaylee or Casey. Yet her life was made a living hell , all because of Cassey’s lies .
3 likesWOW, she takes "pathological liar" to a whole new level. Her parents enabled her. At 35:48, in the interrogation room, she talks and acts like she's doing a job interview.
4 likesSo she killed her kid because she wanted to go clubbing. Then the jury let her go clubbing.
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The prosecution was at fault for overcharging without adequate evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. The jury was correct for that charge.
512 likesThey didn't have a concrete case. I feel she's guilty but if I were on that jury, I'd acquit. We can't just convict based on gut feelings here, we need beyond a reasonable doubt. The prosecution fucked this one up.
421 likes@Pee Bay "she was the only one with access to all the tools used for the murder" is a solid circumstantial evidence that would jail anyone anywhere in the world but Florida, the jury just got charmed by Mr Nice Words.
842 likesThe "drown" argument doesn't fit the search history, neither the ducktape on the child, neither her diary entry, neither her party days, so it makes no reasonable doubt.
@AKS I remember this case vividly growing up. They did not have enough evidence. The jury was not a fault here.
78 likes@Shasta Snow But can't they alteast charge her for child negligence? I mean, she didn't call police when the child was missing for a month and repeatedly lied. I mean how freaking shameless is she to lie like that. She enjoyed toying with police.
454 likes@Anna Tom People in good conscience could not sentence Anthony to death based on the circumstantial evidence presented. Also, I guess you can blame the media for the passionate hatred directed toward Casey Anthony. They did a very good job of dramatizing her. Nancy Grace, whose news program is cited as having inflated the Anthony case into a national obsession. I remember watching her shows too. She was very convincing. Caylee has passed on far, far too soon and that was upsetting for me.
53 likesIt’s called”White Privilege”
261 likesLol.
5 likesThe irony is mind boggling
@Shasta Snow I know, the prosecutors kind of screwd up, I understand that, but can't they atleast charge her for 1 count of child negligence. Her kid was missing for a month, but she reported a month later. Isn't that child negligence?
61 likesWhat evidence you can have available after 31 days of advantage.. Like wtf they were supposed to do
28 likes@Anna Tom They really made this case too public at this point. : [
10 likesYeap
0 likeswelcome to Florida teen moms
7 likes@Anna Tom I'm no law major but I'm pretty sure they needed to bring her up on the right charges. Since those charges weren't in the original accusation then they can't go back and add them in. I think her leading them in circles and hindering the investigation was enough to arrest her. But they kinda let the cart get in front of the horse a little there. In the 2 weeks they had to build a case and indict her, they didn't focus on what hard evidence they had and use that to bring up the actual charges. I might be wayyy off here but I notice people get away with crazy things just because prosecutors don't word shit right.
38 likes@James Ordway Hmmm. This case is really frustrating.
5 likes@Anna Tom if you ever watch that show How to get away with murder it kind of gives you the perspective of the defense attorney. There is definitely no room for emotion or speculation in the courtroom. What seems like open and shut to everyday Americans is not as simple. I often wonder if something seems like solid evidence to the police and prosecutor but winds up getting misconceived by the jury and the impact lost in translation. But maybe if that particular jury had more educated members that case would've had a different outcome. I think these are the reasons I'm so fascinated with these cases.
14 likesUgh... why are most people so stupid?! It's clearly obvious she's guilty
32 likesHad this been a person of colour.....idk what would've happened. Just saying
53 likes@AKS I think there was adequate evidence if the prosecution cross examined a bit more skilfully.
10 likesShe killed her daughter because she was JEALOUS of her daughter the way her parents loved her daughter she said what's so special about her referring to her daughter. I wouldn't let her go she admits to using chloroform on her daughter the mom is crying but Casey is all non chalant about it .she went clubbing couldn't remember where the babysitter lived but she knew her for 2 years
18 likesShawn McManus. Your Common Sense is perfect. Apparently people such as yourself are becoming more and more rare, Because Common Sense people like yourself are becoming more and more rare. What happens when we no longer have people like yourself around? Because America is at it's worst in my personal opinion.
4 likesfor real. they just felt sorry for her and not her daughter. fucked up.
6 likes@Mido Alex Jury was a lot worse there. Literally after the trial they walked outside and did a press conference where it was clear they were eager to convict him. I'm not making that up or exaggerating. You can see it online. In this case, Casey got a really good attorney who knew how to play a really good ground game.
3 likesI think she did it but if put on that jury, I would acquit because there isn't any evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
Every single one saying that the jury was not wrong... They only let her go because was a pretty woman. Period.
13 likesCreepy!
1 like@AKS i dont know why they never brought acquaintances as witneses. 2 of her "friends" said she used to give the child some kind of pills to make her slee. At the same interview the stated she used to take xanax and mix with alcohol. And there you can make your own conlusion. I assume it was a not regreted accident.
6 likesYep
1 like@cazza Row yup
4 likes@David McManus because it’s facts
1 like@Bogdanmeoff boy it’s fax
1 like@David McManus because it’s fucking true.
0 likes@Christina almost everyone there is black.. and its not as racist over there as it is in america
1 like@cazza Row As a white guy i cant agree more.
8 likesCasey's man hooked them all up with free drinks at da club after the trial.
1 like@Sonia R I dont agree with cazza's statement but the implication with using the term "white privilege" doesn't mean that every white person is afforded a certain result/outcome/standard of living, it means that on average, being white is more advantageous in most situations relative to being another races when whites are considered the majority in that region. He's saying that there's a disproportionate amount of minorities convicted when compared to their white counterparts (percentaged based/ not absolute numbers). Do you not remember O.J. Simpson's case being completed dressed in racial discrimination defenses by OJ's legal team? Like they steered the whole case into a police versus blacks narrative; definitely way different then an average case.
9 likes@AKS The prosecution also charged Casey with aggravated child abuse and manslaughter and the jury chose to find not guilty on those charges, too. So you can't really say she was overcharged, I think.
4 likes@Pee Bay all that proven lies search history and body 1km from home aren't enough?
6 likes@cazza Row O J Simpson got aquitted too.
5 likesExactly, our system is fucked ...
2 likes@cazza Row literally can’t agree more. It’s aids to see people defend Anthony when there’s only a single conclusion. She murdered her daughter.
6 likesWelcome to Florida
0 likes@Blaze Light Kid drowned. Ok but why did they said that the child had ductape on it's face?
4 likes@Pee Bay so my daughter has been missing, i never said anything about it. I party, i lie to the police and create fake people that dont exist. My car smells like a corpse, and im the last person that saw my dughter and thats not enough? Might aswell just film me doing it cause otherwise no proof will ever be enough.
18 likesThe defense accused everyone of everything ...smoke and mirrors. The evidence was there.
1 like@Juliet Carrer OJ Simpson is/was rich. Rich people hardly ever go to jail.
6 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
1 like@EmaI mean, O.J got acquitted too though.....Sometimes it just depends what judge and jury you get, how good your lawyer is, as well as what state you are in. Trust me, here in the UK lots of white people got jailed for doing next to nothing, compared to others like murderers, and even with no proof of them being guilty. It is just dumb luck most of the time. A white woman here in the UK got jailed for leaving her kid home alone as she popped out to the shops. Yet you get murderers getting away with, well, murder lol. All to do with how much evidence there is, most of the time.
0 likesYes there is racism, but there is not only racism, there's even prejudice, about which country you or your family originate from.
When my father was 8 yrs old he came over from Italy to London with his parents, and the amount of abuse, name calling and fights he had to endure at school was incredible. Even some teachers were nasty. They wanted my dad to "go back to his spaghetti/ravioli Wop country." My dad's best friend was a Jamaican boy called Francis. They were best friends and always stuck together too because they always got picked on. Thank god my dad and Francis were strong fighters lol.
At times, especially when there is the Football World Cup every 4 years, here in the UK, we still get people hating on us when Italy play, saying awful things, just because of a football tournament. I remember having to endure that at school and at work. An Italian journalist in the UK had to write an article about that, circa 18 yrs ago. Because she too had had enough. It has lessened a bit now thank god.
I think we will never totally get rid of racism and people being prejudice. It is not only about white privilege. It's about nationality too. (And even being a male at work has more privileges than being a female, though this is improving.)
I do think in the US, depending on which state, racism is a hell of a lot more worse than say, the UK. I do believe that. It hasn't improved much unfortunately. But hopefully it will get better. Fingers crossed. Yes there is white privilege but the severity also depends on what state you are in and what jury and judge you get. That has alot to do with it.
@AnySleep IsGoodSleep Really???? 😨
0 likes@BovoTvOh I see. Yes. A bit like male privilege. That being male is more advantageous than being female, in some working environments.
1 like@Sonia R Exactly. It can be different in different environments but it's good to acknowledge what advs and disadvantages you have as to not incorrectly compare your results to others.
2 likeslong story short up, now thinking about having kids again
0 likesEvery member of that jury let a child murderer go free. They deserve to be punished.
0 likes@R P not every jury member, only takes one "not guilty " vote to let someone go free
0 likes@BovoTv ... sometimes that's a good thing, but not in this case.
0 likes@R P I didnt say anything about it being good or bad, you blamed the whole jury. Im saying it's not the whole jury's fault
1 likeThe defense attorney made a perfectly reasonable claim in his closing statement, whatever else you may think of him. The burden of proof was on the prosecution and they had to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Casey had murdered her child, but there was no hard evidence of that in the slightest. Just things such as testimony (the foul odor in the car) or the lies and the fact that she didn't report her child as missing for a whole month, which might only prove that she didn't care about her, but not that she killed her. Personally, all of those elements are enough to make me think she's a cold-blooded killer. But it's a different matter when you have the responsibility of being a juror. I would've had to acquit her, too. It's the prosecution that fucked this case up, not the jury.
2 likes@cazza Row that's probably your answer to everything.
4 likes@Ema wow 1 fk example of different outcomes due to different fk situation. Must be cuz muH 0pressuon
4 likes@Anna Tom even if they did..she spent OVER 2 years in jail leading up to the trial..I do believe she was charged with something due to this case but she walked out with "time served "
0 likes@Pee Bay dude her story doesnt make any sense. If caylee downed in a pool why did she duct tape her face? She admits all the bullshit about the nanny was lies.
3 likesAwesome jury😒
1 like@cazza Row was oj Simpson white? Lol
1 like@Juliet Carrer OJ is basically white tho lol
0 likes@cazza Row lmfao
0 likes@Sonia R Hard to argue with idiots, but your point and reasoning behind it are irrefutable.
1 likeAnyone knows where she is now? I'd like to go "clubbing" too
1 likeI live in Florida, & nearly the Same exact thing happened to my only Son when he was just 3 years old, on new Years Eve 2017/2018, while he was left alone with his Mother, & Grandmother. He was found in a Canal, behind the Apartment Complex, where no Cameras or lights were located. It happened on the Loudest night of the year, just after the sun had gone down. When discovered by Coral springs Police Department, he had a Large Visible Red Mark on the back of his Neck, that was NEVER explained. His Mother lived on the Second Level, exterior wall, up against the canal, that surrounded the entire Structure on three sides, & the fourth was up against a road. At three years Old, my Son could NOT Negotiate the staircase on his own, in one Direction, OR the other, without me helping him, as is normal for any three year old, on a dangerous concreate staircase. It must have been almost twenty steps. So the spin that CSPD believed from Allison was, that while she was napping after a Big Day out, & that her infallible 62 year old Mother, whom had a serious AXE to grind with me, was supposed to be watching my Son, Jack. Whom they said, pushed a footlocker that weighed twice as much as him, across the carpeted Living room floor, of their 800 Square foot apartment, to the front door. Then unlocked the Dead bolt the was near the top of the Door frame (I have Photos) then opened the door, that normally flew open, & was on a chain to keep from ripping free, due to the wind coming off of the Canal, & let himself outside. Then closed the door behind his three year old little self. While no one heard, or saw anything. Allegedly Allison had woken up, & couldn't find Jack in the tiny little apartment (ROLLING EYES). So she then asked her all knowing, wise, Oracle of Delphi Mother, Debora. Where is Jack? to which she (lied) had no answer. It was 6:38, December 31, 2017. My phone Rang, & it said Allison. she has been ignoring my Calls to come see, & pick up my child for 90 days at least by this point. I answered the Phone, & the Verbatim that came out of my mouth is as Follows " Allison, you had better tell me my child is Fucking Alive, & Breathing" all I heard was indiscernible screaming. I repeated myself. I then heard her state in plain English (Please tell my Husband what happened to his child) I proceeded to loose my shit. The CSPD had alerted Hollywood PD to my location, & they shortly their after surrounded my house. The CSPD Closed the case inside of 16 Hours. They NEVER filed any charges against the both of them, & took pity on them both because of their blubbering. Additionally they both were MORE than easy on the eyes. I was Spitting Venom, to the CSPD, on on every Social media Site I was a part of. The Lead SVU Det. from CSPD called me, & said " so I hear you're going around online, telling everyone that Allison is a baby killer?" to which my response was "where did you read that?" She then said 'I personally haven't read anything, this is just what I'm told" We had a VERY colorful conversation, that I will not bore you with the Details of because I think at this point you are starting to see a Manifest Observable Trend of Behavior. The LEAD SVU DET. called me no less than FIVE more time, Both attempting to Threaten, & broker with me. I don't think she was expecting, or was ready for what she heard next.
3 likesAllison then Motioned for a Restraining order to which Michael G. Kaplan, of the 17th Circuit Vigorously issued, with glee I might add. Additionally the Hearing was Dually used to make public statements to Banish any Notion put Forward By Myself, about the lack of effort on the part of the CSPD to bring charges against the mother of my only Son, & to fortify the concept of the mental health of Allison's Mother, whom DID have a history of Mental health issues, & suicidal ideations. (It was a Ludacris cross between a dog, & pony show, & the dismemberment of William the Wallace) Then they went on to suggest that at just Three years old, too young to make such a determinization, as stated by the DSM, that he was somehow limited, & that's how he houdinied himself into the position he was "FOUND" in. The 17th Circuit treated me like a criminal. They then Gave Allison her two year restraining order, took my Firearms, to which I resisted greatly for a years time, Until they Jailed me, with no hope of release, until I willingly surrendered my Property in a Most Perverse of Circumstances. I couldn't help but observe that they took large sadistic measure of Pleasure out of that, & relished in it, Disarming a Disabled Veteran, who's son just Died in an EXTREAMLY suspicious fashion, while NOT charging the Party RESPONSIBLE for his Well being at the time of his Death. I mean, could you find a MORE Luciferin practice?
By the Time our Divorce paperwork had gone though, NOT a YEAR later, she was Living on the other side of the Continent, already 9 Months Pregnant, with someone else's child, who was still active duty. Her second string choice that she knew from NAVY "A" school, that she never took seriously, while we both were Enlisted (Another Story). "JAMES" was trying to "Romance the stone" the entire time we were trying to repair our Marriage, whom her mother was endlessly trying to Broker, & interject herself in. (Narcissistic Mother Disorder).
Ladies, & Gentlemen of the Jury, I hear put forth the Obvious Notion that my Only Son was Murdered to eliminate a Liability, & to sever ties with a Husband whom did not meet the Approval of the Mother In Law. I will let you Draw the conclusion of whom most likely did the unthinkable.
I humbly await your Deliberation.
There was a similar case in Mexico in 2010
1 likeThis is why I don't understand why you use jurys, they are, by the fact that they are less educated in how the justice system works, more likely to succumb to their feelings and look past evidence.
0 likesThis is even a tactic atturneys use, play on emotions, sence all science points towards ppl basing their decisions based on feelings rather than logic.
Heck, that's even why bug bussiness put incredible amounts of money towards behaviour psychologi sence it can increase their sales by A LOT.
@Pee Bay if you feel she is guilty why would you acquit, you do not leave your common sense at the door it has nothing to do with gut feelings when a girl was ducktaped in a pool and lied about for months. Floridians deserve themselves
0 likes@juul cat yeah you should never serve on a jury.
0 likes@cazza Row OJ never got that memo
1 like@Blaze Light If she drowned why tape the child's mouth? Get a clue.
1 likeDamn, that hit hard. ☹️
0 likesThey do think Casey is guilty. But this doesn’t mean they can convict her due to the lack of evidence. It was only inquiry that was provided. It is pretty clear that she murdered her 3 year old innocent daughter. This is probably another example of women getting the benefit of the doubt when charged for a crime 😑
0 likes@Julia D That doesn't explain how and when her daughter died. I think Casey Anthony is as loathsome of an individual as anyone else, but trying to prove she premeditated homicide doesn't really work if you aren't even sure how and when the kid died. I never said I thought she was innocent. I certainly don't. But there are certain criteria that has to be met to get a conviction of a serious crime like first or second degree murder that were not met in this case. It's the fault of the prosecution, not the jury, who has no part in choosing what charges are filed.
1 like@Valkarons Thanks 😁
0 likes@Billy Critical There is good and evil everywhere. That's how I have always seen it hun.
0 likes@Nyoha No one cares. :] The laughable thing is the ones justifying the jury's decision are ALSO admitting the prosecution "fucked up", and that they too believe Casey was a murderer. With this knowledge and standpoint, to say one would acquit or that she should've been acquitted on 'principle' is quite scary. Innocent people go down for less.
0 likes@Pee Bay See? lmfao the same story. 1. "I don't believe Casey" 2. The prosection fucked up - basically: "She's a killer, but I would acquit this callous murderer, NOT because I believe she's innocent, but because the prosecution fucked up." Lol, homo sapiens are funny af
0 likes@Shasta Snow yes they are.
0 likesI cant understand how some people set their willings above their own kid
0 likes@AKS I agree there wasn't the evidence to support these crazy charges.
1 like@cazza Row And where is the "white privilege" of the child?
1 likeThe defense team and their disgusting superiority
0 likesIf she was black guilty verdict on all counts would a came back faster than usain bolts 40 yard dash time
1 likeInsanity
0 likes@Blaze Light wth is wrong with you- if you don’t want the responsibility of a child, DON’T HAVE A CHILD?! You can’t just off someone because they’ve become inconvenient???
3 likes@cazza Row Yawn...
1 like@Arundhuti Chakraborty Yes you do.
0 likes@Bogdanmeoff what? salty about the truth?
0 likes@Christina dude, south africa was colonized for over 300 years and the white population (i feel like i should be clear here, the *colonizers*), though they are a minority demographics wise, are still extremely prejudiced against the black natives who lived there originally. segregation was enforced and the government made people register their race so they could legally discriminate and that was in affect until the 90s. and south african prisons are notoriously brutal and traumatic for prisoners no matter their skin tone. so i’m really not sure what you meant by either of these statements but i think i can glean enough by your referring to prison rape as “disneyland for blacks” and the simple fact of you using the term “blacks” that you’re just racist and don’t know what google is
1 like@Pee Bay
1 likeWell I hope I’m not on trial with you on my jury. I’d be very frightened you would be swayed by a smooth-talking, wiley lawyer and find me guilty when I was clearly innocent.
@AKS
1 likeWell, I hope you’re never called for jury duty if you can’t see that there is clear evidence of guilt here. Jury system for that very reason is past its use-by date. Stupid, can’t evaluate and digest complicated information so is able to be swayed by a wiley and smooth-talking lawyer.
@Shasta Snow
1 likeWell, I hope you’re never called for jury duty if you can’t see clear guilt in this case. Short of having an actual photo of Casey putting tape on the poor little girls mouth and nose (how she suffered while suffocating!) the evidence was overwhelming.
@Blaze Light
2 likesWot? Drowned? What did she do with the ‘drowned’ body which, btw, was found wrapped up with suffocating tape on mouth and nose in a swamp? What about her internet searches? You’re really not worth arguing about when it was so obvious.
@barbara seymour Evidence of guilt of what? Certainly not first-degree murder. Disliking someone and feeling like they did something wrong is not equivalent to meeting criteria beyond a reasonable doubt of first-degree murder.
0 likes@Pee Bay journal entries, internet history, duct tape on the body (proving it was homicide and not accident) i'd call that concrete... people have been convicted for far less.
0 likes@cazza Row Oh shut up... Let's not make it a race thing... Other commenters have already said that as a mere observer, they would say , "Yes she is guilty ," But as a juror, there is a lot more than just saying, "I feel like she did it, so she did it." You have to look at the evidence critically and decide whether or not there was enough to say if she was guilty or not guilty.
0 likesAnd if you want a non-white example, look at the case of OJ Simpson, a man who was accused of stabbing his wife and her friend to death. But was acquitted due to the leather gloves he wore during the crime no longer fitting him due to them being soaked. That's where the infamous line, "If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit," comes from.
Her acquittal has nothing to do with her being white.
@Shasta Snow How long does it take to wipe the dribble off your desk before you type comments?
0 likes@Pee Bay what about child´s body with the duct tape around her head? Is that not enough?
0 likesLmao wtf 🤣
0 likes@Isaac CastroWhy! Having a child in the first place if you're wild and crazy and want to party every single day and night! Yup! They sure did SORRY 😞 for her lying and making not even worried about her daughter's death! She is the killer herself but they didn't make any progress in her case! Why would you act and not care about what happened or what you did! She's not even crazy 😜! She knows what she did but getting herself in a crazy mood so she can be fully prepared for the rest of her life beyond the death of her daughter's passed by lying with herself! Everything she said or she did with her parents, friends and the prosecutors was nothing more than just a story that written about how you can express your feelings and how you take care of your child and make them look like you have any reaction to your own decisions! Who was the father of that child that she murdered? Where was the daddy when his daughter died? Does the father knows that a lady with no soul has his child? Very messed up! It's neglected and child abused! Sad 😥!
0 likesmurica
0 likes@LP.Skates Are you preferring to America 🇺🇸? But in this situation like this, is not just one area! It's every part and every where in the world 🌎! Some people do get away with crime they committed 💯percent of the time! Even if it's a very high crime! They walk away and no justice for the victims! In some area government officials, police, detective and attorney don't even want to deal with it! They don't overlooked this whole incident and just let it happened! It just like who cares statement! So it's best to stay out of trouble and take care of ourselves! If we get into something like this! We might get the worst and send us to a thousand years even if it wasn't that bad! What Casey Anthony did was very a high crime and she walks! She killed her baby daughter and didn't care! She should've sentence to death or life in prison but they baby her over her daughter's death with all the lies and let her walk! What a shame on the authorities!🥵
0 likesI have a daughter. She’s 1. I already don’t let her get away with stuff lol. How these parents let their grown ass daughter lie to them about killing their granddaughter and say they love her and believe in her is beyond me.
1 likeThank you for this channel. My favourite criminal psychology page on youtube. straight to the point, no unnecessary editing, Great.
0 likesThis is undoubtedly the saddest video I’ve seen from you. Still crying about it days later. Can’t believe she went free and that little girl was robbed of her life. I have no words
0 likesShe’s cold blooded!
6 likes“Well it’s not my fault I’m in here”
Absolute monster. She’s out now partying. Her first conversation with family is so telling. She wants to talk to her boyfriend…. I Love the response by family. “Does Tony have anything to do with Caylee? No. “Then why do want to speak to home?”
On the mother's 911 call, she immediately mentions that Casey's car smelled like a dead body.
7356 likesShe absolutely knew what her daughter did right away.
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@Steve Anderson 2:28 she say: "And it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car."
389 likes@Steve Anderson what a strange thing to say, Steve.
191 likes@Steve Anderson mr Anderson... you disappoint me
150 likes@Steve Anderson imagine being that smug about something and being wrong about it lmao
214 likes@Steve Anderson I need to know more about the father because knowing he's a ex cop is a relief but seeing his face looks he looks like a psychopath.
26 likesThe fact she was annoyed about her mom calling the police, it says a lot.
98 likes@SubFornt She didnt said: I smell a dead body in the car", she said "IT smells like a dead body in the car".
28 likesThe Dude who replied first is 100% right. You need to listen more carefully.
My stepdad is an Excop too and he can see that most of you would fail any test to become a cop cause you dont judge by Facts, but by what you expect to hear instead.
@Ahab Duennschitz The first person who replied said she didn't say anything about smelling a body at all.
29 likes@Ahab Duennschitz The mom still mentioned that the car smelt like a dead body.
29 likes@Ahab Duennschitz Read the captions.
13 likes@Ahab Duennschitz Wait your a troll aren't you.
15 likes"My stepdad is an Excop too and he can see that most of you would fail any test to become a cop(...)"
50 likesAnd my dad is much more smarter, and stronger and better policeman and has a rocket truck with bazookas and was fortnite champ also!
@Omnius well the Fortnite clinched it for me , never played but he has to be a winner ;) lol
3 likes@Jojo Me neither, but don't tell anyone!
2 likes@Omnius haha secrets safe with me , I’m in England so probably thousands of miles away too lol
0 likes@Jojo Of course you can. It's not that far away. I'm on mainland europe.
0 likes@Steve Anderson i’m listening to the part where she says the car smells like a dead body right now. Imagine being that smug, without checking if you’re right.
4 likesThe guy Steve said some dumb shit and never came back 😆 🤣 it was at that moment he knew he f*cked up. Made a troll account and doubled down 😆 🤣
6 likes@Steve Anderson uhhh YOU Mr Anderson need to listen more carefully......Yeah she did...JCS mentioned that about the father remembering the smell and being an ex cop...
4 likesCindy Anthony to Dispatch: "And it smells like there's been a dead boy in the damn car".
To be fair, you don't say "I think this person killed someone" in front of that person.
4 likesif you search and watch the interviews w the parents, her mother doesn't believe she killed her daughter - or at least not on purpose. her father is a different story.. he thinks she did kill her.
3 likesExactly, what happened to smelly car?
1 like@Steve Anderson oof why have you still not deleted this comment ? 😂😂 So embarrassing.
1 like@Life.with.too.many.animals I think , it's good that he didn't. Arrogance needs to be preserved to school us all. we can allways learn from the stupid shit we wrote on the internet. there are no white jackets in the ytube comment section.
2 likes@SubFornt Yes they did. They said “she even said she could smell it from the car, the mother knew immediately what her daughter did”
1 like@Omnius he didn't even probably read any comments responding or he would have...that's my point. He didn't learn anything I'm sure.
1 like@NashNash That's what I'm saying
0 likes@Steve Anderson no you're not understanding, he's saying the mother mentioned it to the police because she thought her daughter may have done something, why else would she tell them or the dad connect those thoughts, she totally knew
1 like@Ahab Duennschitz Man what a bait
0 likes@SubFornt 4:10 steve was talking about this . caseys dad was a cop and remembered the smell
0 likes@DDDMane 4:10 he was talking about when they got the car from impound
0 likes@Life.with.too.many.animals because he is right aswell 4:10 the father of casey is an ex cop and could remember the smell
0 likes@Steve Anderson YOU need to listen again. 😁
0 likes@Ahab Duennschitz that's... What they said tho? They said "it smells like there's been a dead body in the car"
1 likelearn to read
She said that because her husband used to be a cop and he pointed out the smell
1 likeI really have no idea what the controversy here is about.
2 likesYeah the whole call by the mother seemed fishy
0 likes@shreks best friend though.
0 likes@Ahab Duennschitz Funny how you and steve both have deleted comments. :)
0 likes@K M Yeah in all accounts of everybody I knew that is/was a war veteran. They say when you smell it you never forget it. Wouldn't surprise me if they had walked by a car with a decomposing body in it and could immediately tell that it smells like death. I have smelled it only with animals and yes the decomposition of a body has it's own niche smell of foulness, it's not the same as rotting meat from expired meat you buy. It is the whole body rotting away. Not an average bad smell to say the least...
0 likes@Ahab Duennschitz "would fail a test to become a cop". 🤣LOL buddy the cops is where they send you when you failed ALL the other tests
1 likeYes she did know exactly what happened .
0 likesI was actually surprised by how on top of it her mother seems to be throughout the video. Her parents were obviously delusional throughout her life, but in these tapes her mother is carefully working her because she knows she has more info.
0 likesI wonder if Casey Anthony ever had a second thought considering her father is a retired police officer...
0 likesRight. They're not responsible for the murder, obviously, but they're absolutely responsible for enabling and fostering horrible behavior with no consequence.
0 likes31 days not to report, explain that "cop"!!!!! Her parents had to call and her her in back ground and explain that also?????
1 likeWhile she may have said it smell like a dead body, I doubt her first thought was that her daughter killed her granddaughter. This is her own daughter for fucks sake. What sort of sane human would immediately suspect their own child of something as horrible as that when they’re praying and hoping for the best. I feel terrible for the grandparents. Imagine the pain they’re going through, having to accept their own child, the girl they put so much blood, sweat and tears raising with so much love, killed the granddaughter they dearly treasured. They aren’t the only ones I feel sorry for. I can’t imagine what everyone else who cared about Casey and cared about Cailey are going through. All of that guilt and so many conflicted feelings. Just thinking about it makes me queasy.
0 likesThe father knew. As a cop, he would have known that smell instantly when that trunk was opened. I think she was repeating what he had said when it was opened.
1 like@BreakfastClub psychopaths look like normal people. so your comment makes zero sense
0 likes@patrick kinnear What did steve say?
0 likesI think in that moment, Cindy really believed the babysitter story. She thought the babysitter probably killed poor Caylee.
0 likes@BreakfastClub the problem of ppl is judge others by their appearence-
0 likespizza
0 likesShe’s honest about her own personal life and writes about her happiness While her daughter is supposedly missing she’s clam cool and collective No tears no grief whatsoever her parents has to have known that none of this is going to turn out positive for their grandchild nor their daughter My heart aches for them this has to be a horrible horrific situation for any loving caring parents to have had to if gone through and live it I pray for the family to heal and be able too move forward this is all very heartbreaking no matter how you look at feelings about it who u believe Or don’t believe the truth comes out And the parents see it as clearly as the law sees it Very heartbreaking for all of them This poor child is gone Maybe the good lord knew more than anyone either way l wish the parents to have the strength to carry on Very sad 😞
0 likesKudos to these detectives for being so patient and restrained. I could not bear to hear her laugh and be so laid back while knowing that her daughter is likely dead because of her. I couldn't stand to look at her and wouldn't want to hear any of it.
0 likesThese videos are incredible and I love how informative they are, keep up the amazing work
1 likeI was like... 13? At the time this happened. And I was STUNNED even then that she literally got away with murder. Like... Yes. The facts against her were a bit loose and could have been tied together better, but literally ever person I've ever spoken to about this says she did it. I took a forensic psych corse in college and the professor was one of those people that came in as an expert for this type of stuff and he even said in class he was pretty sure she did it. Like... come on!
0 likesthe fact that her googling “foolproof” suffocation wasn’t enough evidence alone to throw her in prison is BEYOND me
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apparently that evidence wasn't found until years after the trial
210 likes@Oliver yeah I thought the same
9 likes@Basia Chodzicka Wow, REALLY? One would think that would be something hard to miss. I honestly thought that different browsers wouldn't matter.
89 likesThey found the search query on her computer, true. However I guess this is not an irrefutable proof that SHE did that search. Maybe Zenaida did it :)
130 likes@Basia Chodzicka Lmao. What a cover up this whole thing is. Even the rookie prosecutors don’t do that. Firefox was huge back then too!
17 likes@Khedran That Zenaida/xanax shit is ridiculous. Zenaida is just a name she came up with.
58 likes@Oliver If that's the case shouldn't she be put under trial again? Murder case doesn't have a statute of limitation so why she is not being prosecuted again?
34 likesI guess double jeopardy prevents that from happening. What a failure of a system.
14 likesJust b/c you search something society deems 'taboo' DOES NOT mean you're going to do it.
9 likes@S it's still circumstantial evidence
9 likes@Afiq Putra ever heard of double jeopardy ? They tried her and a verdict was reached . They cant retry her fir the same crime again. If the case was weak they should have dropped they case because then they could always bring it up later if new evidence develops but since the trial proceeded and a verdict was reached that case is closed. Sadly , she could blurt out to the world now that she did it and they cant touch her for murder. Same thing with oj Simpson. If he admitted to killing his wife and her boyfriend now , they cant do anything to him for the murders. But.......... if the feds can determine they violated some kind of federal law in commission of the crime the feds might could try them fir the murders
5 likes@Michael Warrell he literally mentions double Jeopardy. How about you read a bit more buddy
8 likes@Darth Revan ........ huh ? I'm sorry , you barking at me ?
1 likeif thats beyond you, you have a very low standard of guilt. Thank god you don't write legislation.
1 likeI'd like to see your google searches.
3 likes@DGrieux exactly.
0 likes@Afiq Putra as much as I wish she was behind bars, double jeopardy is one of the most important amendments in the bill of rights.
0 likes@MystiKasT LOL agreed
0 likes@Michael Warrell you must be a good person, I see
3 likes@Oliver I remember hearing about it at the time. Caylee was about the age of my youngest child (at the time) and.I kept up with Court TV coverage on the case. Nancy Grace was all over it.
0 likes@Daniel's Elated Octopus Lots of people have had relevant searches used against them in similar cases.
1 like@Michael Warrell what's your occupation? I'm curious what kind of lie you'll come up to impress the strangers in the youtube comment section. Got a bet going with a few friends.
1 like@JF Sebastian it shouldn't be illegal either, you're not required to confess guilt and even if you tell your attorney where you hid the body and how you planned it that's protected via AC privilege
0 likes@Danny Buck this was months ago and I don't even know what your talking about accusing me of lies. Move on and find something more recent to talk about
0 likes@Oliver that’s not true, that was found out before the trial
1 likeYou can blame the press and Florida as to why she was acquitted. Almost every time a case goes National, juries find reasonable doubt.
1 likeI'm glad the jury found her not guilty.... Do I think she did it? Yes. Do I KNOW she did it? No. That is why the burden of proof is our standard. "better a thousand guilty men go free, than one innocent man is punished"
2 likesShe’s kinda hot.
1 like@Nacho Martinez fr
1 likeBeyond doubt
0 likes@Afiq Putra Double Jeopardy is typically a very GOOD thing to have. It's not a failure of the system. It's a failure of the jurors and the jurors alone.
0 likes@Oliver can she be arrested now?
0 likes@Afiq Putra what the hell kind of rule is that
1 like@DGrieux Zenaida doesn't exist. she made her up.
1 like@Michael Warrell It's funny how you want to correct someone when you're the one who can't read then after being called out by another person politely, your reply is pathetic ad hominem.
2 likes@Señor Reaction Yes, exactly; she got her information on how to do it and left the house right after. Also the chance she could've just googled it on her phone while out.
2 likesI'd give her life in prison if I had the choice because she's guilty for sure😂😂don't even try defending her.
@Señor Reaction didn't she live away from her parents though?
0 likes@Daniel's Elated Octopus so her child coincidently died from suffocation on the day she searched up "foolproof suffocation"🥶 how can you even defend her?
0 likes@Thomas the issue isn't the cause of death but who did it
0 likes@Thomas yes it def means she is extremely disturbed. However, if everyone whom is a bit unhinged & searches topics deemed 'taboo' by society should be punished then there society would surely collapse
0 likesThat's circumstantial
1 like@Joe Marley exactly
0 likes@Vector she calls her zanny the nanny, zanny is another term for Xanax and that’s why ppl think in her own messed up way she was being half honest. They think she was using Xanax in place of her having to get a nanny so she could go out an party while the kid was zonked out. Xanax causes breathing problems and Casey might’ve given it to cailey before she chose to suffocate her because there would’ve been less of a struggle. Makes sense to me
0 likesThey thought to pull up the deleted Firefox searches after the trial 🤦🏻♀️
2 likesIkr. Clowns and their courts
0 likesIf I recall correctly, she blamed her dad in court. The prosecution couldn't prove who made the google search.
0 likesMy mom tried to shield me from consequences, holding me up higher than everyone else when I didn't deserve it. I was fortunate enough to at least recognize that my mom, while she meant well and I love her dearly, was not doing me any favors. I had done some bad things growing up and as a legal adult and you can only find true happiness and freedom when you are honest - not just with everyone else, but yourself, about all of your flaws and mistakes. Imagine how many people get away with what Casey Anthony didn't, or people who murder their spouse. We only hear about the ones who get caught and it's scary to think about how many psychos are out there right now doing whatever to the person who has committed to spending the rest of their life with them. Fack.
0 likesThis has to be the most botched trial in history. It still shocks me.
6 likesI think the most haunting and terrorizing fact to me is how she was out partying and talking about how happy she is, is just completely baffling.
2 likesMakes you wonder how defense lawyers can look themselves in the mirror at the end of the day. She and her defense team knew she murdered her child. Great lawyer with zero morality or soul, just an absolutely tragedy for a murdered little girl not just robbed of life but of any form of justice.
1 likeShe went out partying... THREE DAYS AFTER HER DAUGHTER WENT MISSING... there’s too much evidence against her and I can’t believe she was rewarded a free life
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@2020 Trump She is free. She is living.
127 likesSHE GOT OUT SCOT FREE???????????????? noooooooooooooooooooooo
78 likesBecause the American legal system is a joke. People get put away for years because of drugs but sometimes murderers get away with no charges or a slap on the wrist.
453 likes@twistedyogert Don't worry man... it's like that almost everywhere around the world! Some places even worse! Not that one should put up with it, but it's universal.
76 likes@Bill Geo Perhaps vigilantism should be allowed.
63 likes@Bill Geo It's sad though, putting non-violent drug offenders in prison and charging them with felonies seems wrong. After doing their time they end up without a job because no one wants to hire a convicted felon. They can't vote or own a gun. They can't have custody of their kids. I'm not for legalizing all drugs (marijuana is ok), because I believe that people addicted to drugs are sick and need help (I watched my dad destroy himself with alcohol, it turned him into a monster). As far as punishment for drug offenses, the offender should be fined as long as their addiction resulted in no deaths. The money could go towards their rehab treatments.
94 likes@Michael she actually free? Damn, what a rotten law you guys have there 😂
41 likesdancing in a club 3 days after doesn't make her guilty.
15 likes@CreatorOwned combination of white, female and a cops daughter tbh. So near impossible to convict.
52 likes@Albatboss E It would at least make here guilty of fckn child neglect if the prosecution had done its job.
90 likesRight they failed that baby!!
22 likesBIll Geo it’s not like that almost everywhere. Just in the pathetic judicial system in US
3 likes@Andrew E, Yes... it does
2 likesIf it was a black man those excuses made by her lawyer would never work and he would have a life in jail as well as a death sentence to wait on
48 likes@Cringe Captor Shrekura one rich black man's case that happened in the black man's favour out of the thousands where the black man has been given the harshest possible sentence. Be honest here. As much as we respect the good men who work honestly in the authoritative work forces, the thing as a whole is institutionalised racism at it's core.
31 likes@Michael a movie? Thats f** up 😂😂😂
5 likes@Mr Potato Agreed! :/
1 like@Cringe Captor Shrekura yes I agree. Money comes first and is taken precedent over all other things. But my point still stands that GENERALLY in society, there are unfair treatments based on colour, religious beliefs and gender. We all know if a black Muslim man kills another fully grown man he would get a harsher sentence than a white athiest woman who murders 2 of her own children. We've all seen these things happen and seen the huge disparity in punishments. Let's not kid ourselves here right?
15 likes@Bio mutant you really felt the need to say 2020 trump. also what do you mean "and most importantly, she became a celebrity"...chlie....
0 likes@Matt G first of all don't assume I'm anti white or one of the extreme left or BLM folks. it suites your narrative to throw me into that category and make such claims. Just because I'm mentioning racism on minorities doesn't mean I'm anti white or think white people are evil. That's just stupid shaming language similar to the 2nd and 3rd wave feminists who use that to get out of an argument so show some class. I'm against racism for all and I'll be the first to tell people who are over reacting and going to the other extreme, projecting their hate towards whites. At the moment the victims of most racism are minorities and the fact that white people suffer a bit of light racism, which is still wrong and stupid, they act like such victims. Try being shot because your white, try being the face of crime and have everyone double check your every move when you are doing simple things as shopping. Don't be so weak when you get a slight taste of racism back, which btw is only a backlash of long-term societal racism towards minorities. Just like feminists, you assume I'm anti white for speaking for black people like they would assume I'm hating women for speaking out about men's rights being abused. You gave me a case about some #metoo movement and of course the woman's word is going to be taken true over a man's that is the problem with today's gynocentric society. It is heavily biased against men and treat every woman as a victim even when they are caught doing some evil and dark crimes. When it comes to the corrupted laws gender comes first then race so your case doesn't sway my opinion at all as I know more cases than you know about female minorities abusing men including white men and getting away scotch free. So lower your tone, don't make wrong assumptions up on your high horse and don't respond like a triggered Karen spewing out pointless thoughtlacking arguments.
6 likes"there’s too much evidence against her"
15 likesThere is too much evidence that she was involved in the death of her daughter - not that she murdered her daughter with premeditation and this is what there has to be for a conviction on a 1st degree murder charge.
She walked away free because of the vindictiveness and stupidity of the prosecution team.They gave the jury a choice between 1st degree murder and execution or freedom. They couldn't prove 1st degree murder so the jury had no choice but to give Anthony her freedom. If they had charged her with voluntary manslaughter she would have been convicted and gone to jail for 15 years.
@Bio mutant oh ok
0 likes@Albatboss E Of course not, but it should have been taken into consideration, at the very least, as suspicious behaviour. It's hardly the psychological response of a frightened and grieving mother, is it?
2 likes@CreatorOwned don't bring race into this. She had a great attorney who could get the devil off
3 likes@2020 Trump of course you had to be a Trump voter
4 likesThe prosecution failed to prove she had been responsible for her daughter’s death.
2 likesI’m so sad that she didn’t get jail time
1 like@CreatorOwned You think she got off because shes white? What do you mean exactly?
2 likesHas nothing to do with trump she is an incredibly skilled lier and manipulator. She was two steps ahead of every interrogator and person who questioned her. She missed her calling she could’ve been a great lawyer.
2 likesI doubt her life after this case was pleasant. While she may not be in prison, she was no doubt the most hated person in america during that time. If she really has ice water in her veins and can take constant harassment every single day for the rest of her life, well i guess she wins then.
1 likeAnd her saying" she's the happiest she's ever been".. WTH!!!!!!!!
0 likes@Albatboss E Don't forget the tattoo and her statement that she's" the happiest she's ever been"!!!! Shocking!
1 likein your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
0 likesYea and she dumped the body in a swamp. Defense admitted that. Like, who does that?
0 likes@twistedyogert Many legal systems are extremely flawed unfortunately, take a look at Japan's conviction rate, it's extremely high and I doubt that's just because every single one of them is guilty. The legal system in a lot of places definitely need to be fixed, unfortunately, I don't see it happening anytime soon.
1 likeGoing out 3 days after ur child has gone missing isn’t a guilty plea. Imagine the babysitter agreed to hold on to the daughter until the mom feels better. The mom has lost her temper and is thinking about giving up her daughter for adoption. So she’s very happy when the babysitter doesn’t call back for a week. Now casey’s attitude has changed. She’s the happiest she’s been. She’s thinking the babysitter is going to ask if she can adopt the kid. When she doesn’t hear back from the babysitter she’s not in a hurry to go looking for her. I’m not saying this is what happened but it’s why u can’t just lock casey away without harder evidence.
0 likesFree life partying with no burden of looking after the child now. Sick woman. RIP Caylee little angel
0 likes@twistedyogert only in florida. If this was any where else she would be in prison for murder. Theres been lots of cases like this in florida that let obviously guilty people walk free
0 likesCrazy that she got out
0 likes@twistedyogert Lmao dude people can get away with felony murder with 5 years in other parts of the world. Please keep telling us how we’re just the worst though 😂
0 likesWhere’s dexter when we need him.
0 likes@Morpheus Bott they’ve proven the babysitter doesn’t exist tho? why are defending this murderer
3 likes@scuba tuba Dead now unfortunately.
0 likes:(
@Albatboss E how about lying that she met Zanny through some guy that she hadn't spoken to in years and his son that didn't exist? How about making up a person who looked after her daughter? She How about lying about a job? How about a tattoo whilst her daughter was "missing" saying "Life Is Good"? How about lying about a job she didn't have and hadn't worked in for years? How about making up people that didn't exist? How about walking around a building that you don't work in WITH police officers? How about never being concerned or upset that her daughter was missing? How about not calling the police or even her parents immediately? This was all whilst being interviewed to help find her daughter. What kind of parent would do that? You'd want to tell the truth so they'd find her. Any normal mother would be absolutely frantic and straight on the phone to the police EXACTLY like Caseys mother did when she finally saw her daughter and found this out.
3 likesCasey is murdering scum!!!
Yup, its ridiculous, she screams red flags, the only reason i can think of why she was released is they didn't have enough physical/concrete evidence that the mother killed her daughter, unfortunately a bad feeling isn't enough...
1 like@Joe Yabuki facts.
0 likes@Bill Geo didn't you watch the video?
0 likesShe went to hang out and watch movies with her boyfriend the SAME DAY
0 likes@twistedyogert i really appreciate your comment. I agree with every word. As someone who loves a recovering addict it makes me so mad that real criminals walk while people with a problem are punished instead of helped by this ridiculous sys
0 likesFor everyone that is angry she got away free. I am too. But remember that no one can run from judgment from GOD. she can run. But she can't hide forever....
2 likesShe may be free now, but she'll get what she has coming to her when she moves onto Hell
0 likes@make earth spirit fun again oh shut up
0 likes@Tohuto The big man in the sky ain't real. More moronic religious talk. This is real life and sometimes the bad guy wins
0 likes@Rob Oc following God isn't religious. FYI God created Adam and Eve. God didn't create religion. People did. There is only one God. Where do you think we came from? The universe? Big bang? 😁😆people tend to misunderstand. God is real, that's why The Living God. You don't have a soul? What about people who are filled with holy Spirit that prophesy? These prophecies are real, whether it hears bad or good. What do you think it's happening to our world rn? It's written in revelation and there is no book that comes as accurate as Bible. Read revelation, and see what is happening to our world. Bro I want you to be saved. And I want to be saved too. Try reading Bible, it doesn't hurt 👍.
0 likes@Tohuto You actually believe in Adam and eve? Holy hell 🙈😂
0 likesI have read the bible, but just like Santa Claus, I grew out of it.
Maybe Dawkins was right about Americans having an above room temperature IQ
@Rob Oc I'm not American. I'm indian. And I know God exist because of the holy Spirit working in people. Holy Spirit alone is proof. God gave us all a gift and that is the holy Spirit. ❤ people don't even try praying but they must do it whole heartily. Just simple closing eyes and mumbling words won't do. We must pray with our full, in mind, body and spirit. God is a spirit. So we must be spiritual in a good way. God is a clean, holy God. Well it's up to you finding the truth.
0 likes@Tohuto An indian Christian? That's disappointing. I thought higher of India tbh. I've found the truth mate. It's called rational and reasonable thinking. Something the bible lacks. Along with the Quran and every other holy book (which is man made so how can it be holy?)
0 likesTo believe the bible you have to cherry pick your stories. Which is what every follower does. Funny how the old testament version of the god is rarely mentioned anymore.
@Rob Oc nope. Where you're from doesn't matter a bit. God only wants your full heart, that's it. Doesn't matter if I'm blck, white, brown or whatsoever. Holy Spirit is real. Try praying. It doesn't hurt.
0 likes@Rob Oc Bible is widely misinterpreted. You just read a line or a verse and viola you just think it's that. Many has backstories. Good theories. The incidents all have their stories, which can be explained.
0 likes@Tohuto Weird how John Paul the 2nd acknowledged evolution....hmmm
0 likesFunny how you've gone quiet now 🤐
I crucified him 🙈😂
@Rob Oc nope I was busy.
0 likes@Rob Oc these are not God's people. I can say. Like many Christian leaders or catholic leaders. They just dress nice, pretend to be holy. But they will be met with severe punishment. Pope or not I don't care. I don't worship man. I worship God. Idk but if he acknowledged evolution, he is not a true Christian, I can say that. This type of people, is written in the Bible. Wolfs in sheep clothing 🤷♀. Like I said many pastors nowadays mislead people for money, these are the people who will be most punished. So if you don't believe God. I have no more to say. But only one thing, after we all die, we will know. ❤Jesus is coming soon, morning or night or noon. Many will meet their doom. Righteous meet in the skies.
0 likes@Tohuto All of them? It's convenient that the bad priest's aren't men of god but the good ones are. There is no punishment from the big man in the sky. He ain't real. Funny how you say "after we die, we'll know" implying that you don't know now...weird 🙈😂
0 likes@Rob Oc I'm saying some use Bible and act as pastors or healers or prophets. There are so many out there. Duping ignorant people for money. Apart from monthly tithes if you're a member. I've experienced the holy Spirit. And seen evil too, from my own two eyes. I had a death experience, went to a prayer center. I was sleeping and during night I just woke up feeling uncomfortable and a face( with no body, it was skinless, black like that of mummy) coming out from my face and it went away)lifted up my body halfway out of the bed. After that two person figure came and that too black. Came and just stared at me, I was helpless. But i called the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. It disappeared. That morning after service i went up to Our Reverend and prayed for me. Told me it was bad spirits. About the holy Spirit while I was a about 13 to 14 . I prayed that night with my mom. Prayed for so long. That night I woke up again to see bright clouds appearing, there was two human. Make and female who were of old age clothes In fine white dresses. Then I woke up. Remember I wasn't under any alcohol or drug influence. You see our Adversary don't want us to be saved. So those who don't believe, he keeps them at bay. But for people fighting to know the truth, to be closer to God. The adversary attacks in dreams, gives us nightmares. Setting traps for you and me. To let us cause sin. If that doesn't get you thinking. I don't know, what can. So good luck. God bless you.
0 likesHow is it possible she was not convinced for this atrocious crime is beyond me. The only thing I can think of is she somehow sold her soul to get out of this. She is a Dark hearted liar and obviously she killed her child And she walks free among us.
2 likesshe honestly is the most cold hearted woman i've witnessed i feel for her mum
2 likesThis is exactly the flaw with jury trials. It becomes more about convincing a group of people with no expertise in the matter than actually getting to the truth. I’m glad I live in a country that doesn’t rely on them so heavily.
0 likesSaying anything about her "traumatizing past" doesn't justify how she hid from everyone that the kid was dead.
2 likes"I found my daughter dead, but I cannot show others my weak side so I'll just duct tape the dead body's nose and mouth, and having it for a while in my truck. Oh, forgot I better get rid of it, I'll just throw it in the swamp."
Yeah sure, totally reasonable...
I don't know much about law and justice but someone who normally lived her life while hiding a dead body- being her the murderer or not- is certainly insane. She deserved some punishment, and they needed to do more research on this case.
her falsely accusing her father of molesting her is disgusting. her murdering her daughter in cold blood is disgusting. her walking FREE? downright disgraceful. this justice system is so flawed. i hope she gets what’s coming to her.
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Well said
19 likesI understand that lawyers are needed to defend anyone that is brought in front of a judge, but in this case they actively helped her to invent a story that would affect her parents and even drove her dad to a suicide attempt. I imagine a special place in hell for everyone involved in that, hopefully such a place exists.
335 likeshow do you know it was falsely accused?
41 likesUnfortunately I wouldn’t call the system a justice system but simply a biased legal system
22 likesSHE NEEDS ME IN HER LIFE
6 likes@P1nkR exactly it should be illegal for a defence attorney to willingly cover up a murder I'm not saying people shouldn't be defended but the way this was done i don't know how he sleeps at night to help this evil woman get away with murdering her daughter with no remorse and destroy Her dad's life in the process!!!
81 likes@P1nkR if it pays it pays, if someone offered me thousands of dollars to sucker a stupid jury I would too
4 likeshow do you know it was a false accusation lmao
11 likes@Leah vapes86 covering up murder is illegal, the problem is you cannot prove there was a murder here, as evident by the result of this case
11 likesThe most disgusting thing is she genuinely enjoys her life
18 likes@Levi Mogford because Casey has lied about everything. and look at the video visit with her parents in the video. she’s not distant or afraid of him. she even calls him the best grandfather for Caylee. would you call your abuser the best grandparent for your child? No. Casey cannot help but lie.
64 likesOne bad case is not evidence. Anecdotes are just anecdotes. The justice system comes through for people far more than it doesn’t, and I defy you to find one thats works much better.
6 likesIt's a fact that women tend to get lighter sentences, and sometimes even get away with crimes. This case is just one more to add to the pile.
25 likes@Meropticon _ the prosecution completely fucked up this case just like the prosecution did with Trayvon Martin. why would they go for first degree murder when they have no cause of death or any proof beyond circumstantial that Casey killed her daughter?
13 likesnow, you’re right, women do get lighter sentences but Casey was really considered and imo still is the most hated woman in America. I don’t think anyone was going easy on her.
its been more than 6 years shes deff getting away with it
6 likesFully agree. And even if not made up, how come you can just throw something like that in the air and not having it followed up by the police? Her dad just walks free being a pedophile and no proof is brought to actually back up this statement? Imagine the prosecution saying “she killed her daughter and we know this because 10 years ago she killed a bird”, for example, and the jury would be like “oh right, so she kills animals and people - guilty”. Isn’t it the same thing? An allegation that has no proof being used as argument? I’m just so confused by this.
9 likes@Albert Jordan I'm not questioning that, or saying that she did it because only she knows that. But that she is innocent is a lie, and there was enough evidence to see that. Her child died and was buried in the woods while she was aware of this, after covering up for it and misleading the authorities. I don't know law but I'm pretty sure that measures up to something. This woman should not have walked out free. That's just my perspective.
3 likesThe evidence was circumstantial, at best. Do I think she killed the kid? More than likely. Did the prosecution come anywhere close to presenting enough evidence to prove she did the murder, beyond a reasonable doubt? FUCK NO! Not even close.
4 likesAnd the man didn't even flinch but stood by her after hearing all that smh
1 likeIt was more than likely her defense attorney that came up with the whole molestation idea because they know that a jury will eat that kind of stuff up. The guy is despicable but he's good at what he does so I'm sure it was his idea.
4 likesIn order to ensure that human rights do not get slowly stripped away from us we have to provide them to everyone. While the justice system is not perfect it is certainly better than most places in the world. Our system was made with the goal that an innocent person never get locked for something they did not do, not always imprisoning the person who did it. Unfortunately a focus on protecting the innocent means some people get free. Though, I do not understand how it missed this time.
2 likes@vicky wen class A liar. She cried at the first jail meeting when talking to her dad. The pain she felt was from her parents, so why would she feel sadness looking at her father if he didn't care about his child?
1 likeIf anything this case is proof that our judicial system works as it should and not everyone is so tempted by their emotions. Sure, she certainly gives off the air of being a shitty person, but being a shitty person isn't enough to convict someone of a crime without any evidence. There would be a lot more innocent people behind bars if that were the case.
1 like@Ana Alves She didn't walk free. She got 2 years in jail and a fine for giving false information to the police during an investigation.
1 like@Levi Mogford that is not the point
1 like@Josh Allen the GOAT that's essentially walking free after she murdered her daughter
9 likes@Z Romo It definitely isn't. That still goes on her permanent record. She won't be able to get a good job or have a decent place to stay for the rest of her life. Not to mention that she alienated all her friends and family, and the viral nature of the case means that people will recognize her. She may not have been sentenced for murder but her life is effectively ruined.
1 likeThe prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
1 likeits called satan.
1 like@P1nkR they created doubt in the mind of the jury he did his job, no more, no less. They were paid to do a job and they did their best. By defending the rights of one person, no matter how bad, they are defending the rights of everyone. The monsters are not the lawyers. Casey is the monster.
1 likewell she lives in florida and you can find her address. if anyone in the comment section gets too sad to keep going…she’s learning to be a private investigator and you know she won’t be working with scrupulous people. she’ll be using her manipulative capacity to gain access to places and things that help out all sorts of fucked up people
4 likes@FRANKIE OJ Duct tape on Caylee's face. Proof positive.
0 likes@Meropticon _ Agreed
0 likes@HitlerActually Her complete joy at not having the child around. Her entry in the diary practically confessing to it, and not mentioning the disappearance or death of the child at all. Her constant lies about the whereabouts of the child. The fact that not a single other member of her family credited the absurd and indeed evil child abuse story (why was it never followed up by ANYONE, if true?). The fact that Anthony searched for methods of suffocation on the actual day of suffocation. The fact that the child was hidden BY ANTHONY in a bag in a swamp nearby. The fact that the body was found with duct tape over its mouth and nose... and so much more besides, but these... how do these come "not even close" to evidence that she did the murder? You even admit that it WAS a murder, contrary to her obvious lies about accidental death.
4 likes@YellowEllo Whelp, we'd better release half the murderers in jail then, who were convicted on far less than this. Now ask yourself: what if Casey had actually been a big hairy ugly man? Think this would have been the outcome?
3 likes@Josh Allen the GOAT There was a MOUNTAIN of evidence against her in this case.
4 likes@Jay Beam I'm not sure you can assert that. Who do you think believes that the US justice system, as currently arranged, is "the best in mankind's history"? It serves the wealthy and hands out insanely overharsh punishments to vast numbers of poor people. Virtually no European would consider that it is better than any system in Europe, for example. None of us would wish to have ANY involvment in US "justice".
1 like@AltaMirage Then they should have put it forth in the trial, the only evidence they provided was circumstantial at best.
0 likes@AltaMirage i dont know why you are suggesting we release half the criminals as a joke. That severely misrepresented what I said. Just because in one case there was a wrong decision made does not invalidate the others. You must realize that trials are not run by the same guy or jury and so there will be differences in how good they are. You must have missed it but at the end of what I said, I said that I do not know how she was not convicted.
0 likes@AltaMirage Pretty much the definition of circumstantial evidence is what it is.
0 likesWhat happens to the body after it is unalive is virtually meaningless. It wouldn't connect her to the crime in any way, even if she literally came out and said that she dumped the body.
If a Google search could be used to convict then I'm sure half of us would be in prison by now. Just the other day I was googling stuff about stabbing, does that mean I stabbed someone?
@AltaMirage You are not your search history. Interest in a subject does not mean that you did, or intend to do, what you're searching for. Is it a good look? Of course not. Does it increase the odds that she committed the crime? Sure. Is it sufficient to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she killed her daughter? I don't think so. I don't know precisely how the defense countered this point of evidence (specifically the tape) but I'd imagine one could make the case that she was concerned with the smell and potential for maggots, and only duct taped her mouth and nose AFTER she had already drowned, rather than as the method of killing her.
0 likes@Albert Jordan The defense probably didn't do anything to counter the evidence of the tape, as the tape on its own doesn't prove anything. There's no proof that Casey even was the one who put the tape there to begin with. The only proof that would have been able to convict Casey of the murder is proof that directly links her to the crime at the time of death, of which the prosecution had none. Everything else is circumstantial and is non-admissable for a guilty verdict on its own.
0 likes@Carnival How busted are you ? I assume morals are not a concept that registers with you.
2 likes@Royce Thompson
1 likeI agree. And I'm not happy with alot of outcomes, especially where prosecutorial misconduct plays a part.
As JCS states in this video, her attorney focused on telling the jury to set aside all prejudice and only convict if they have proven that Caylee was murdered and the prosecution left doubt.
I believe there possibly would have been a conviction if it weren't such a media circus.
@walkingexistentaldread …. I think you have it backwards
0 likesWas it false though? Didn't he try to commit suicide after the trial?
1 like@vicky wen how can you possibly assume it was not?
1 like@Saddam Hussein Ironic coming from an account named Saddam Hussein
0 likes@Ann Ohn It's probably also really depressing when someone that you love tells disgusting lies about you.
1 like@vicky wen because literally everything she stated the whole entire video was a lie
2 likes@vicky wen yeah totally not suspicious how she accused her dad of sexual assault only after he provided testimony against her, and not at all before when she happily conversed with him when he was on her side.
3 likes@Carnival I’m sure Casey also probably screwed the lawyer to pay off her fees too. You know she didn’t have the money to pay him, so she paid him another way. She was def that kind of girl.
1 likeShe basically lives in Exile now had to change her name and appearance. Sadly she’s still alive and doing well though.
1 likeand you have people getting 20 years for marijuana
1 likeDont be so quick evreryone. Allah see everything and if she did infact do this, she will burn forever. Inshallah she will not get away with anything if she is guilty.
0 likesUuuuff
0 likesEntire true!!!
0 likesNo evidence no proof. Correct verdict watch the WHOLE trial. next
0 likes@Meropticon _ lookup the case of Sandra Melgar, I really feel she was falsely accused
0 likesCasey says she sleeps just fine at night🤮
1 like@P1nkR it's only casey's fault. the lawyers believed she was telling the truth probably
0 likes@vicky wen i think her dad sexually abused her AND she killed caylee for her 'freedom' to have her beautiful life.
1 like@AltaMirage remember when the guy in the UK was convicted for teaching his dog to Heil Hitler for a meme video on YouTube? European courts really are great guys (HONK)
1 like@Josh Allen the GOAT Way to pointlessly focus on one single aspect, and embarrassingly fail to minimise it.
1 like@Josan Crewbar Look up the definition of "false dichotomy". That's your free education for today... Merry Christmas.
1 like@AltaMirage Way to not have a counter point to anything I said.
0 likes@Josh Allen the GOAT There seems to be an echo in here.
1 like@AltaMirage It makes me a dispassionate third party. The defense made the case that she did not kill her daughter, only that she discovered her already dead and with the help of her father, sought to cover up her death. You alleged, or at least insinuated, that the duct tape was evidence of murder, I simply provided a plausible alternative explanation. That doesn't mean I think she's a good person, or a rational person, but what I do think is that the evidence was not substantial enough to convict her of homicide, as did the jury.
0 likesαɴαнαтα love yea that’s what I actually think
0 likes@AltaMirage Still nothing to say then, eh? I guess I win.
0 likes@Bartender_Billy her being capable of murder and guilty of murder are two separate things
0 likes@On The Edge not yet cry baby
0 likes@On The Edge ok
0 likesTotally agree what a sicko
1 likeHer poor parents. They lost their granddaughter, their daughter, and got dragged through the mud for no good reason at all. The whole thing is tragic
0 likes@P1nkR i am questioning procecutors/defens a lot whether they care to find out the truth or just winning a case by any means even if it means defending a real murder.
0 likesthe fact that in 2017 she was living with the lead investigator tells you how she got away with it as well
0 likes@Carnival im genuinely shocked that someone with such a deranged thought process as this would be watching videos about criminal psychology.
0 likes@10cody7 too many corrupt cops out there. They all need to be fired.
1 likeI love this channel, hope you're coming back or finding a new platform!! I'll follow you wherever you go!
1 likeIt’s unthinkable she could tell so many lies to police & investigators & walk away “not guilty.” Innocent people don’t fabricate elaborate lies.
1 likeIm so grateful there will be no gullible jury & no slick defense lawyers at God’s judgement seat.
Her reaction in the opening statement is utterly disgusting. Shaking her head when blame comes at her.
0 likesI’m not related to them or even in the same country… But I’m tearing up.
It’s the fact that her parents constantly show how much they love her and care for her even when the world is turning on her, and yet she and her defense team ends up pinning the blame on her father and she doesn’t care a bit. There’s no one Casey cares more for other than herself
0 likesThe mother literally said Casey's car smelled like a dead body in the 911 call. I hate this jury.
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Then later claims it was pizza. Yah, uh no. Big damn difference.
2884 likesYou can only decide on the evidence given and case put before you
464 likes@TheBooté. That call is haunting isn’t it? Ugh
691 likesThe defence was arguing against homicide/manslaughter, instead claiming that she didn't report an accidental death. Maybe another case could be against her for not reporting a death to the state and improper burial, but hey I'm not a lawyer.
1111 likesSeemed like a dirty tactic and without evidence to call her own dad a pedo.
@Moses King Of Tea Brews Agreed! “ Dirty “ is putting it lightly.
187 likes@Reese Brindle If the family could have gotten any more fractured, this was the log split in two.
473 likesOne of two people she truly had in her corner, she denounced and ripped his heart out in a televised event.
@Moses King Of Tea Brews her dad didn’t even look mad. He would take the public hit to save his daughter’s life.
371 likes@Peace and Love does that even matter?, i know aswell and its something i will never ever forget, and i hope il never have to experience that ever again.
14 likes@Peace and Love It says in the video her dad was a police officer so recognised the smell.
276 likes@Peace and Love once you smell rotting flesh that shit sticks with you
284 likesit's not really the jury's fault here. somehow the state let the three stooges prosecute this case instead of.. well.. anyone else lol. this should have been a slam dunk. but, somehow, the prosecution was able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
178 likes@Mordecai exactly. So how did they get it wrong....
17 likes@kinetic Pictures can only imagine the prosecution was completely inept. Perhaps budget cuts for their department? Angry people not wanting to pay taxes means these institutions fail? I really don't know. We can only speculate.
45 likesIt really makes you wonder what happened and how someone could be so cold blooded.
19 likesHearsay
3 likes@herogibson people dont blame jurers, but the system. the jurers just get played like anny other puppet. and when u can afford good puppet masters, ka-ching. freedom.
41 likes@Anonymous but you can see that when the verdict of not guilty was said the father was stone cold serious, and not celebrating the fact that she got off. He knows she did it. If not the guy was the worst cop ever.
128 likes@Peace and Love rotten flesh, old blood
3 likesThe jury can only decide from the evidence provided
3 likes@PhantomStella
7 likesWith illegally aquired evidence the following happends:
If the Ministry of Justice cannot prove the charges with other means of evidence, it will be acquitted, if this succeeds, the judge will take into account the fact that the rights of the suspect have been violated in the sentencing.
Where i come from a judge takes all evidence into account.
@Peace and Love I work in a hospital as a wardsman and deal with dead bodies quite often, I assure you the smell is not that of pizza or anything like pizza
57 likes@STAY CLINT What? Who's dad?
7 likesdont hate the jury if the lawyer is good
6 likes@Peace and Love I imagine if you've ever discovered a body you would know, or if you work as any emergency service personnel, there's probably a lot of people who know the sickly rotten smell of a corpse.
4 likesThe Jury: "It was just an extremely late term abortion like post birth abortion totally normal for this great state of China"
36 likesAs another commetor said, there just wasn't enough evidence to definitely prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey killed her daughter. The autopsy couldn't prove how she died, the prosecution only had circumstantial evidence that she even WAS murdered. Honestly, I don't even think her lawyer was that good. I think the prosecution just sucked and assumed the jury would convict her. Given the circumstances and evidence, Idk if I would have either because of the larger implications it could mean in trials going forward.
39 likes@Peace and Love Lol WOW, insightful question there Socrates. You sure showed her.
0 likes@Anonymous or the apple doesn't fall far from the tree
1 like@kinetic Pictures hindsight is 20/20
8 likesThe jury was lead on and coerced by a REALLY good defense attorney
Ffs imagine how that guy feels about getting her off
Those people have blood on their hands as sure as she does. Most useless and irredeemable jury since OJ.
41 likes@Limlaith yeah, but damn how good is that defense attorney at his job
3 likes@Peace and Love 4:17
0 likes@Reese Brindle
0 likesThey found Caylees hair in the back of the car that had decomposed skin on it. Their excuse was lack of evidence.
73 likes@Peace and Love the smell of death is different from all smells growing up finding dead animals is exactly alike to humans. After all we are animals according to science right?
2 likesCan’t blame the jury for not speculating based on non proved evidence.
7 likes@Peace and Love The smell is very distinct
0 likesright ? but it was just a garbage bag with garbage ! rotting in the Florida sun for days and days.
2 likesAnd was there any DNA of the child inside the trunk of her car? This was really a poor performance of the prosecution. Trying to prove guilt simply by character.
22 likesSmelt not smelled
1 like@TheBooté. or a type of fish. Now what if I got scrod in Boston? Is that past tense and plu perfect?
1 like@Reese Brindle mmmmm rotting corpse pizza, my favorite 🤤
1 like@Peace and Love police are likely to know, and it’ll pretty much smell like a beef lasagna left out in the sun for a week with raw eggs on top, then blended and farted into. The smell of a corpse is potent, wrenching, and very distinct.
2 likes@Moses King Of Tea Brews yeah, of all the disgusting despicable lies, she throws her parents, her only supporters under the bus. That defense attorney must be as callous and un-feeling as Casey.
22 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
5 likes@SixMilllPesoMan
29 likesWhen I was a firefighter we were called out to a 'suspicious smell' during the summer. Turned out a guy had killed himself a couple of weeks prior and the smell was only just starting to permeate the residence and his neighbors had started to notice.
I've smelled far worse things, but the smell of a decomposing body is that primal fear sort of smell that hits your lizard brain with warnings that something isn't right and there's danger.
Once you smell it, it is something that lasts and lasts in your nose. You can smell it in your clothes and on your own body. It is absolutely not something you can ever forget.
@Mordecai that includes the recording of the 911 call which they play... in court... for the jury to hear.....
1 like@natabearrable never said it didn't
0 likesThen she got out on the stand and lied her ass off.
2 likesIf you read the jury's comments they all express that they all believe she's a horrible person and they wish they had more evidence presented to them to put her away. Don't blame the jury, blame the prosecution on this one.
25 likesI think the mistake was charging her with 1st Degree premeditated murder when it was clearly lacking.
25 likesHad they just went for negligence, or involuntary manslaughter, maybe she would've been convicted.
And everyone from that day forth will talk about how messed up this is. Will anyone fo anything?. Could anyone? Never know huh... It'll just keep happening. On other news you can make a bet that we'll update our phone's and cars every year. This isn't just the shame of the jury, it's the shame of every single being in this country. People talking bad about BLM, but what matters is they made the radar. Wicked stays in shadow. I only hope that someday the people who are and get woke will get out of bed next.
3 likes@Moses King Of Tea Brews Perhaps, but just the same it would explain her personality disorder, and why her parents were so indulgent. In the end, how do you know?
1 like@Reese Brindle the moms been having papa johns? Fr tho this family is fucking crazy as hell.
1 likeAnd they found Caylee close to their home 🤦🏾♀️
2 likes@STAY CLINT if that's your thought and conclusions that little girl never deserved to be murdeted!!
0 likesThe mother changed her story and tried to protect her daughter. The father is the only one that can walk away from this with a clear conscience.
0 likes@A A yes. They found a hair in the trunk with signs of decomposition.
1 like@Reese Brindle idk Reese, was it Little Caesars?
0 likes@Reese Brindle I need some material to milk off to
1 likeThe trial itself is hard to understand how the jury let her go. It made her look super guilty. I didnt know about it and watched it half way through and on in one afternoon. I was stunned she was found guilty
1 like@Mordecai no the trial they werent that bad. The evidence they had was still pretty damning. Only the jury is to blame
4 likes@Beep Beep I've smelled dead animals that were by the road and it was very bad. Does a human smell different than roadkill?
0 likesI've shoveled maggot infested dead rats out of my barn. Death has a smell, something nothing will ever compare to. I can't fucking imagine what human decomposition would smell like. This entire case still pisses me off, but I couldn't help but watch it.
5 likesI think this case should be reopened because apparently Casey's having sexual relation with her lawyer
5 likes@STAY CLINT that was incoherent. Try again homie.
0 likesMordecai the evidence it before them?? car smelling of death, not reporting her daughter missing, blatant lies that were found out, google searches on suffocation the same day her daughter died, lying about people that stated they were lies, and making up people that don’t exist??? probably more i’m forgetting too... you don’t think that was enough evidence out before them?
6 likes@herogibson nah I’m gonna still blame the jury. Like not one person was like, she’s so guilty, it amazes me how she got off.
4 likesOneHairyGuy go read my other comment, that was enough eveidence and if you don’t think so your not very smart
2 likes@LimesOVAlemons but a good jury doesn't do that. if the defense creates a reasonable doubt, they have to pay attention to that. the jury did a good job here, somehow. cuz i feel you. id be a terrible juror cuz i would been like "f dat b, she did it"
1 likeOneHairyGuy i would be very sad if you were my lawyer then 👍
3 likesOneHairyGuy a law degree but doesn’t know about circumstantial evidence? makes sense
3 likes@Reese Brindle I have smelled both, and can agree that pizza does not smell like decomposition
0 likes@Mordecai Nah, the defendants attorney is just pure evil.
0 likesit was the prosecutors who fumbled. Not the jury.
0 likes@Chill x smelt is only used in British English. Smelled is acceptable in American English
3 likesyeah girl, im sure you know more than a jury
0 likesI walked into my Nan dead in her room and no way in hell i could confuse that smell of pizza
0 likesEasily swayed by a sly ass lawyer,
0 likesI hope their names got leaked and they are harassed and called monsters daily.
0 likes@Mordecai either that or the jury was bought out or was threatened
0 likes@Wyatt L by just doing his job?
0 likes@Mordecai well not true, jurors can’t vote however they want, there’s nothing that says they can’t. if the juror thinks the accused is guilty even if the evidence isn’t there they have full power to vote guilty.
2 likes@herogibson i was thinking the same thing, they sound like first year debate kids and not professionals
1 like@Dan McIsaac it doesnt prove whether she killed her or if it was an accidental death
0 likes@Anonymous Her dad was completely heartbroken. Did you watch the court room footage?? It looked like he was punched in the gut, even though the attorney gave the family a head’s up of their defense. He’s publicly & privately disowned Casey, and has been very outspoken with his disgust for both her & her attorney.
4 likes@Chill x "smelteded".
3 likesPeople in juries are not trained lawyers. Don’t hate juries. Hate a legal system that allows random idiots to decide court cases.
5 likesIndeed...wtf
0 likesFlorida.
0 likes@J LV a sunny place for shady ppl.
0 likesThey will regret it 4 always for saying non guilty
0 likesI'm so mad 😭💔
1 likeThere's little to no argument that Casey:
5 likes1. Lied to police
2. Hid the details of her child's death including moving the body
3. Didn't care about her child
However, there is no evidence she murdered her child.
There have been many cases of parent's losing their children by accident, due to a fall, a pool drowning, SIDS, any number of reasons, and they conceal the death and the body from authorities for fear of retribution from what was a genuine, legitimate accident that was no fault of theirs, or due to trauma from having lost their child.
It's 100% possible that Casey's child died accidentally, and she panicked, causing the lies and the hiding of the body.
It's also possible she murdered her.
But since there is no evidence she murdered her, and that exclusively should be the only deciding factor - evidence - she was found not guilty.
The prosecution’s case had a lot of problems, unfortunately. They could never definitively prove how Caylee died. Anthony is guilty as shit, and a monster, but the evidence wasn’t as strong as it needed to be.
1 like@The “Ok” Guy "defense" and "defence" are both linguistically correct, all depending on whether you use British or American English. 🤷
3 likesNot to mention, the argument of 'you misspelled a word, therefore your argument is invalid' is juvenile nonsense.
@Marko Bighead tell me, why would you place duct tape over the mouth of a child thats already dead?
4 likesWanna know the even more fucked part. In as recent article the jury said that his decision still haunts him and if it were today he would say that she was guilty
5 likes@herogibson that’s true. I mean I have none of the slightest of how court works, I’m just still fuming how she got off.
1 like@Reese Brindle Human pizza lol
0 likesYeah! And her father, who is an ex-cop himself, stated the same.
0 likesWait how did her mother knows what a dead body smells like?
1 like@Reese Brindle well if you get it from Papa John’s…
0 likesThe judge sentenced her to one year because it was an accidental death. THe only thing she did wrong was lie to police about what happened. the jury had nothing to do with it
0 likes@Marko Bighead And why would Casey googlesearch "foolproof suffocation" if it was an accident
3 likeswhat if it was her boyfriend that killed her?
0 likes@Moses King Of Tea Brews that technically overlaps with this case so they wouldnt be able to prosecute her for it. it sucks on cases like this where people get away with the crime. she would have to be charged on a completely different case.
0 likes@Jonathan Gullett That itself was damning, but evidence has to be beyond a reasonable doubt.
1 likeEasy to back seat quarterback when you're not on the field
2 likes@EmpressKajal why does christianity always end up about torturing people to get revenge?
0 likesIn a perfect world we dont torture, we help before it gets to this point. What if the sexual asaault at a young age was true and had a hand in how she became? Not an excuse, but i personally wouldnt feel right torturing that person for eternity no matter what they've done later on.
Mother: "Casey's car smells like it had a body in it"
1 likeAlso mother: Does not compute that it means something happened in her car
She was able to manipulate the jury..just like her parents
1 likeJury’s are made up of 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty
1 likePeople who have smelled a dead mouse in their house can probably identify the smell where a small child laid dead for a month.
0 likesIt wasn't 1st degree.
0 likesThis kind of nonsense is why so many other countries don't leave such decisions to some jury of random civilians. I still don't understand why the heck America does this, to this day.
2 likes@Bunille they could of tried to save her life and just didn’t bring that up again (I haven’t finished the video yet) but they seem like good parents who would def save their daughters life and not leave her rot in a jail cell.
0 likes@Schneider Jean Jacques Do you have any difficulty with understanding people's emotions? Because she's definitely got ASPD and her parents are pretty stupid. There is no "poor daughter"... she killed her own! Intentionally!
1 likeIt wasn’t the jury it’s the prosecution
0 likes@OneHairyGuy juries do not find innocence. That is precisely why it is worded as guilty or not guilty. A not guilty verdict is not the same as being innocent
0 likesVery disturbing.. idk how those jury live their life peacefully after makin that stupid decision to let her free
0 likes@EmpressKajal It would be nice to find out the names and addresses of the jury members and start making their lives a living hell for the rest of their lives
0 likesEveryone that says it's the prosecutor's fault, yes it is. After hearing all the evidence, no matter how weak of a case the prosecutor gave, the jury is still responsible for the verdict.
1 likePlus the dad was an ex cop and he said that it smelled like a dead body in there
1 like@Al Bundy Serious question ,, how can she not get any type of sentence/punishment for perjury 🤔 Complete lies from the very beginning ,, AND ON the stand ..
0 likesLITERALLY.
0 likesNot the jury's fault the prosecutors were completely incompetent. Just watch any video of the trial and try to tell me with a straight face that they are skilled, compelling orators.
0 likes@David Gossett Many defense attorneys are almost sociopaths themselves. To be able to spew made up stories just to get a person off is despicable.
0 likesYou don't need to shout.. But its OK for a Defense attorney to fabricate" facts" and out right lie to juries to get a guilty person off? Mr Baez coaxed and manipulated the jury like a master. He alone let Ms Anthony go free.. I hope he can sleep well at night.
0 likes@EmpressKajal i
0 likesIt feels like watching a cheap crime movie
0 likes@Reese Brindle good observer
0 likes@herogibson I was obsessed with this case and watched every moment of the trial. The prosecution overcharged and did a horrible job proving their case. She is guilty as sin, but I’m glad I wasn’t on that jury
1 likeI really don't understand how she didn't get convicted. What a joke.
1 likeexcept three other witnesses who were right next to the car said it smelled fine, one of them even looked in the trunk and saw no dead body.
0 likes@Stranger Now you’re lying to make a point.
1 like@Moses King Of Tea Brews
0 likesYes, you’re the only one beside myself to pick up on that in the comments. Wasn’t the prosecution allowed a comeback or was it too late in the trial? Also, the Dad don’t show any reaction - in the video clip anyway - to such an accusation especially at such an end point in the procedure. The whole thing was a miscarriage. The lawyer simply outwitted State and jury. Jury was dumb.
@testje aapiel
0 likesWell, the jury is an integral part of the system. However they tend to be dumb, unable to digest and dissect complicated information and come up with an accurate, appropriate unbiased, disinterested conclusion - all 12! It’s a lot to ask of ordinary citizens.
@PhantomStella
0 likesAnd the evidence was right there. The defence was too wiley, though, and able to sway them. Jury system is past its use-by date. Get rid of.
@FaiZan she is or was a nurse
0 likes@Andie83 and mom was a nurse who also probably has smelled death.
0 likes@LimesOVAlemons yeah I thought near the end that was at least be a hung jury.
0 likes@Andie83 so did mom...a nurse
0 likesAnd they found remains of a dead human body in the trunk’s air….
0 likes@Reese Brindle smell of a dead body = pizza smell common mistake a lot make 🤷♂️
0 likes1:24
0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
The father was a policeman so he had history of dealing with dead bodies, what a joke.
0 likes@PhantomStella She has a search history of suffocation and foolproof suffocation, they discover skeletal remains with duct tape on the face and mouth, how the hell is she not guilty? Her entry in her diary, the fact she didn't contact the police for over a month.
0 likesAbsolutely pathetic
@Mordecai so her blatantly lying to police about every single thing leading up to and during the 31 days of her daughter missing isn't evidence? Not contacting anyone about her daughter being missing or the fact that her car smelled like a dead body?
0 likesHate on the prosecution not the jury. they did their job.
0 likesAFTER stating that her father had police force experience and knowing that he knows what the smell of a dead body is like.
0 likesHowever the prosecution has to prove it. Somebody saying in their opinion it did smell a bit funny, without any collaborating evidence, proves nothing.
0 likes@Z Z The lawyer wasn’t good. The prosecution was bad.
0 likesWell the defendant is a young woman, so according to the law you can’t find a woman guilty apparently. Just female privilege that’s all it is
0 likesThat defence lawyer is a criminal for lying for her like that, just to be paid big bucks.
0 likesIn the end it worked out for her, it is nauseating
0 likesGrandma is clearly and expert on dead bodies. Proof it was murder. Case closed.
0 likes@David Gossett It's way beyond callous; it's pure evil.
0 likesfr
0 likesThe fact that Casey I still out and about after literally murdering her own daughter, waiting 31 days to tell the cops, continuing to lie about it, and never actually facing the reality that she is a horrible person and she needs to be held accountable.
0 likesI think a very telling thing here is how blatantly horrible of a human being she appears to be and her parents don’t second guess it or even look phased for the most part. It makes me think she’s always been this terrible person and her parents are so used to it they don’t see any red flags from her behaviour during this meanwhile every other person involved is visibly and audibly like “what the fuck bro”
2 likesShe literally killed her child then carried on partying and living her life! I’m absolutely gobsmacked…. I was 20 when I had my son and I couldn’t dream of hurting him. He’s my whole life. Yes I had to give up partying and my 20s but I wouldn’t trade it for the world. My child comes before anything. I can’t believe there are people out there who actually took her side and helped her walk away free. Poor poor child. She got no justice and no life. May she rest in peace 💜
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And I mean, if she DIDN'T want a child (which is fair enough, I would not have wanted a child at 20 either) - abortion and adoption are options that exist? Why the hell would you instead decide to keep your daughter for 2 years and then murder her?
0 likesWhat a surprise to hear his beautiful voice again. I just got done watching other crime videos and I heard this voice and immediately had to look at the channel
8 likesthe fact that she made up a babysitter and everything else, painting herself into a guilty corner... and still walked free.... that shit just blows my mind
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Color (that must not be named) privilege is fucking real bruh
241 likes@Timmy P If the prosecutor can’t convince the court that someone is guilty beyond reasonable doubt, they shouldn’t convicted. Otherwise we’d lock up anyone for anything. Hell sometimes people seem completely guilty and aren’t. Just watch any court movie, like My Cousin Vinny and 12 Angry Men.
113 likesNot saying the defendant here is guilty or innocent, just saying that a legal system run by emotions is dangerous and terrifying.
@h mejia knew I'd find this comment somewhere!
78 likes@h mejia no
82 likesThe key to Casey walking free was the advanced decomposition of Caylee’s body by the time she was found. Had that not been the case, I believe an autopsy would’ve been able to reveal incriminating evidence her attorney wouldn’t have been able to overcome. That said, she should’ve been found guilty regardless. That was crazy.
113 likesThe reason she got off, as well as I can remember, is because the jury thought the death was an accident (probably drowning) and that she was scared that people would think she killed her. So the trial, the public ridicule and the stress involved was punishment enough. There for, not guilty of murder.
46 likes@Professor Doom This may sound like a silly question because I don't live in the USA but couldn't they have another trial with a more applicable sentence after this first verdict?
21 likes@Patrick Davis I'm no Lawyer but I don't know what they would charge her with or if she could get a fair trial at this point under our laws. It seems to me that this is an old fashioned example of getting away with murder.
14 likes@DeathnoteBB The dairy entry, the search history, the car smell, partying for a month while you have no idea where you daughter is. You think she's with a babysitter that you yourself have made up. I guess there's always a what if but maybe everyone should get off then.
77 likes@DeathnoteBB But it isn't ran by emotion. The state could not sow doubt in the minds of the jury and Casey Anthony walked free because of it.
1 like@h mejia If you wanna make that argument then I can bring up the OJ Simpson verdict. Do you really wanna go there? You'll get eviscerated but we can go down that road if you really want.
33 likes@StudleyDuderight 1. Sow, not sew
3 likes2. I assume by state you mean prosecution, but the defense are the ones who have to convince the jury there’s any doubt
@DeathnoteBB oops... thanks for pointing that out
14 likesMy turn. Prosecution, not persecution.
No, it's up to the prosecution to prove guilt. Innocent until proven guilty.
@StudleyDuderight No problem
0 likes@DeathnoteBB I uh... added more and you may not like it.
0 likes@edbo10 bought fkn time. We’ll see how you like it
2 likes@StudleyDuderight Haha, I just saw. Already edited it before, had just caught it while I was replying.
0 likes@h mejia oh yeah i like it, so far i've been able to riot and loot and destroy public property and the news can't say shit cuz of my skin colour lol. although the rittenhouse verdict rustled their jimmies
14 likes@game boy Is that what they said about OJ?
2 likes@StudleyDuderight that…… took rng
0 likes@game boy That took what? Random Number Generation? Raging Nihilistic Goons? Rallying Nice Gays?
0 likes@h mejia nah it was the lawyer! makes me question our judicial system
2 likes@Professor Doom I personally don't believe she has the self-awareness or emotion to care about the public ridicule.
1 like@Timmy P oh hell yeah agree 💯 can't believe she is walking free we all know she killed that little girl :(
3 likes@DeathnoteBB she would've been found guilty by the jury in My Cousin Vinny~
0 likes@Professor Doom I truly believe she has absolutely no conscience AT ALL, so even if she was In prison it wouldn't effect her one bit. I'm sure to everyone with empathy & feelings, your life even outside of prison would be hell. She doesn't care either way~
0 likes@The Violet Bunny don’t have a clue what your going on about mate. Don’t message @ me again. This discussion is over. Stop.
0 likes@UCoIpQBqzQOP8wRVq0qY8m3Ayes. She was given all that leeway because of race.
3 likesAll kinds of privileges exist. To blacks too if it pleases you.
To react so strongly to the idea that whites posses it too is telling. Handle it better will ya. If it’s possible for blacks to be privilege as you say how is it that the thought of whites possessing it triggers you so?
To be clear, I can accept the counter argument that she didn’t get off expressly because she is white. But that she got off because of the curtesies (privileges) accorded to her at least in part due to her race is overwhelming. And yet This permitted her in the end of being absolved of murder. Hate on that situation. Not on me for holding this thought. To call me pathetic for having an idea is itself pathetic don’t you think?
@cdf360 I didn’t intimate your thought she should go free. I’m black and thought they OJ should’ve been found guilty. Am I now absolved off all the wrongheadedness you believe afflicts my every utterance?
2 likesThe argumentative and defensive posture is born out of some states and unstated assumptions. When you expressly say you’re not sure how white privilege plays into this it may be helpful to consider, perhaps as q defile advocate thought experiment on your part how it could. The very statement that you don’t know how might cause some humility that it may be outside your current field of view is all.
There’s no doubt that her defense was successful. And she’s entitled to it. They say even hitler would be entitled to the best and most robust defense possible. Absolving people of crimes through artful and legal defense isn’t the same as justice
Look, the jury itself is born of and instructed by the system. They are in fact expressly selected for a certain set of characteristics most favorable to a certain outcome … it comes down to who prevails in the election process.
You don’t agree she should’ve walked. I don’t agree either. There are mechanics as to what led to this aberration. I get that you’re allergic to the contributing factor I point out. But why?
What I’m saying to you is that from a black and brown perspective she was accorded privileged as a direct result of her race. Privileges not only not customarily accorded other races but very often denied.
Im not sure why even tho you agree she should not have not walked free in the same sentence you extol the virtues of her defense. Which is to be valued more in your estimation? A robust and capable defense yes, always. but justice and truth paramount. That didn’t win the day here. Why?
@h mejia defense is essential to fair trial and by extension, justice. Not sure what you are referring to when talking about the jurors. You say that "they are in fact expressly selected for a certain set of characteristics most favorable to a certain outcome." This is entirely false. Jurors in the Northern District of Florida are selected at random from the certified list of registered voters from Florida's Secretary of State. If I'm not mistaken, this case was prosecuted in the Northern District. If you could list some of these privileges, rather than vaguely stating that she was afforded unspecified benefits, I would appreciate it
4 likes@h mejia She was allowed to lie about the phantom nanny, and the fake job? How so? Once her story was deconstructed and found to be a lie by the investigators, she was arrested practically on the spot and arraigned as quickly as the courts would allow. How did she get away with lying? You act like the detectives believed her story and let her walk. It's absurd.
5 likesif you want to get mad at the jury, fine, go ahead, but I'm not sure what you want in terms of systematic change in regard to trials in the US. The investigators and the prosecutors are not responsible for determining her guilt. They are the system. They did all they could to secure a conviction and failed. They didn't give her any breaks, the jury did.
The system did all it could do, and the jury failed the American people. Jury selection is not relevant because the prosecution gets just as much of a say as the defense, hence why I didn't bother to mention it.
Your constant insistence on white privilege as playing a role in this case seems pretty weak, as you have yet to explain anything substantial as it relates to this case.
@Patrick Davis fair question. There’s a principal of double jeopardy. Not versed in all its intricacies but the verdict as it stands was such that I precludes her being charged in the matter again. She can be tried in civil court (in contrast to the criminal court in which she was exonerated). This court has a lower bar to broach as regards culpability. It generally seeks to establish culpability and thus financial liability. It is something that parents or next of kin would seek as restitution. But seeing as she is the accused, there’s no interested party who would launch the suit. I suppose the grandparents could but they don’t seem to have the stomach for it and who knows if they possess sufficient legal standing to do so. The way the whole sorry mess stands, there’ll never be direct justice for that little girl. She was unfortunately born into a lethal situation and no recourse. We as a human community can grieve for her bad fortune but apparently that is all.
1 like@DeathnoteBB My God, the child was covered by tape, you just got fooled by the defence, (which ironically where also playing with their emotions)
0 likes@DeathnoteBB isn't it if one juror is against the verdict of the others it's a hung jury. I think the point is that they all agreed that she was not guilty
0 likes@DeathnoteBB I remember the time before DNA a girl swore up and down, looked the man right in the eyes, and pointed in his face saying "That is the man who raped me, I would never forget his face". Come to find out once DNA got involved the guy was innocent and he just sat in prison for 20 years. Most would say that the girl saying he was the rapist with such conviction was compelling "evidence" but it's not proof of anything. You have to prove it, that is why she walked.
1 like@Patrick Davis The problem is the concept of double jeopardy. Basically, a citizen can not be tried for the same crime twice. Even if you frame it differently. A jury let her go, we have to accept their choice, as there was no cause for a mistrial.
1 likethey even called her out for lying when talking to her the police
0 likes@Patrick Davis you cant be retried for the same crime if she was found not guilty shed have to kill someone else or do another crime
0 likes@h mejia more like beauty privilege
2 likes@André true too
1 like@Rental Snake 🤫
0 likes@Patrick Davis I am not an attorney, so please realize this is my “understanding of the laws”.
1 likeThe US has a little thing called double jeopardy. I don’t believe they can retry her. The defense can appeal verdicts, but the prosecution is usually to the original verdict.
I think prosecution might get to appeal if prove of a jury tampering, judge tampering……
If a hung jury, prosecution can decide if they will retry the case.
@StudleyDuderight in ojs case it sadly became more of a political matter than a murder trial , because at the time police brutality and prejudice against black people was a huge problem , and his celebrity status also helped him get away with it even more , so i don’t think using him as an example is really fair to the argument (sorry if my grammar is bad english isn’t my first language <3)
1 likeAmerica be like
1 likePeople fail to understand you have to prove that someone actually killed someone else this is very hard to do it’s not o he probly did it it’s a bitch to convince anyone of anything much less when you keep being told you have to be really sure are you sure hey guy are you sure dude there’s no way
0 likes@Patrick Davis no double Jeopardy prevents someone who's been acquitted of a crime from being tried for it again.
0 likesThat's the American justice system for you.
0 likesThe fact that she also said the baby sitter was black and Hispanic. That didn't sit right with me along with this entire case. I lived in Orlando during this time and I will always hate the fact she was let free to go and never paid for what she did to that innocent little girl. Smh
1 like@quetzalcoatlz because it’s True. I‘m White myself!!
0 likes@Patrick Davis I guess not if they considered all that evidence at the time as being not enough to charge her with anything. What else is there to consider? And her daughter is already long gone
0 likesNot to mentation she accused her Father of pretty heinous things and paid her Laywer due to the Monica Lewinsky method.What a lovely Lady
0 likesThat's a great lawyer. I think probably the best lawyer. This was without a doubt an open and shut case. We've gotten enough information to know she's guilty from a two hour video. There were 12 people in court for weeks that were fed a boatload more of evidence, and her lawyer still got her off. He's one of the worst people alive, along with Casey, but a great lawyer.
1 like@Patrick Davis unless they found new evidence they couldn't try her again because otherwise they would be allowed to just put her through trial after trial until they got what they wanted
0 likesNot knowing how to vote is how Florida do.
0 likes@h mejia dont be racist.
1 like@Patrick Davis no, that’s Double Jeopardy. The US Constitution protects against DJ in the Fifth amendment of The bill of rights.
0 likes@StudleyDuderight a beloved celebrity with one of the best defense teams money can buy? (SOOO much money) That's a different kind of privilege. There are all kinds.
1 likeStraw man arguments are so exhausting and simple minded.
@cdf360 she was afforded white privileges the moment the investigation began. From the way the police treated her, how they investigated her claims, etc. If you don't see these privileges then you suffer from racism. It may be internalized bc of culture/upbringing/education, and that's okay. The key is recognizing that maybe your biased and then listening. Your defensiveness is telling.
1 like@André She had a whole lot of privileges. I don't get why these folks are so resistant to recognizing and accepting that people have ingrained bais in all factors of life. The key is recognizing them and doing our very best to correct them. We are not doing our very best.
0 likes@Kate Grimes Kopanski how did they treat her and how did they investigate her claims? I’m genuinely curious how it would be different. I’m not being defensive, I’m asking for something substantial. No one has offered me any substantial evidence of her being afforded privileges that others would not get based solely on skin color.
1 likeAlso “if you disagree with me, you’re racist” is not a good way to win people over, and will turn normal people who simply have a disagreement with you into legitimate racists who feel justified for being so. So, bad move on your part
All because investigators and prosecutors apparently don't know computers can have multiple browsers. Without a doubt "foolproof suffocation" would have put her behind bars without a doubt
0 likes@DeathnoteBB a reason to doubt is not reasonable doubt. "She searched chloroform 84 times because she meant to search chlorophyll" is by no means reasonable, but a lot of juries don't realise there's a distinction there
0 likes@Sam The act of Googling chloroform is not the act of murder, sorry I had to spell that out for you. If Googling things was illegal, writers would all be in jail. Again not saying she wasn’t guilty of something, but it couldn’t be proven to the standards of a court of law. That said sometimes cases get botched, but it sounds like nobody really knows for sure what happened so the exact crime is therefore hard to convict.
0 likes@DeathnoteBB its evidence. Especially considering the prosecution brought up the detection of unusual levels if chloroform in Casey's car. The same car that smelled distinctly of decomposition. Do you think no one should be convicted of murder based on any evidence that isn't explicit footage of them killing?
0 likes@Sam I really don’t know. I’m not a lawyer, I just know the law is often based on past cases (though maybe it’s different for criminal cases) and sometimes people are falsely accused. I don’t know what could have or should have been done differently, I just disagree that we can convict people for murder on a “I’m super sure though”. People have been just as sure about people who didn’t do it.
0 likes@DeathnoteBB are you aware that emotion is how lawyers win cases?
1 like@Patrick Davis That's why they charged her with multiple crimes. The neglect charge would have covered this, and the jury still said not guilty on all charges.
0 likes@StudleyDuderight Actually yes... Proving guilt is the whole goal of the prosecution... They're assumed innocent until proven guilty.... By the prosecution!
0 likes@DeathnoteBB I’m not saying white privilege doesn’t exist, it just doesn’t exist in either of those cases. I’m not exactly sure where you’re getting the idea that I ever said white privilege isn’t real. I very specifically spoke about just these two cases.
0 likesIf you want to argue points that I didn’t try to make, knock yourself out lmao
@Timmy P best comment yet!!
0 likes@Kristy-Lou87 Thank you! This case actually made me sick to my stomach.
1 like@h mejia N
2 likes@cjhebert94 fair enough. I respect your opinion. I happen to also believe the prosecution failed that child.
0 likesIncidentally, thanks for speaking on the topic Itself.
@Timmy P same mate same.. the fact that she can have another child or children...or even look after someone else's children EVER again.. Is HELLA scary.
0 likes@Professor Doom But the duct tape??? I guess you could say the child put it there... possibly... but then Casey's complete lack of remorse and happiness after her daughters death points to something being very wrong.
0 likes@Patrick Davis the Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution: "...nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb."
0 likes@Professor Doom didn't they say they found duck tape on her mouth and nose area?
0 likes@h mejia OJ?
2 likes@h mejia White + Girl + 8-10
0 likes@h mejia not just about the Color either it’s also cause she’s a chick, if this was a dude with the same evidence he’d be dead or life in prison
3 likesThe prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
1 like@MystiKasT “overcharging?”
0 likesOverreaching?
@MystiKasT as in excessively charged. I get you now
0 likesBeing a charismatic beautiful young woman helps a lot.
0 likesThere has to be DNA or real evidence words dont matter she can say she killed her kid and shell still be free cuz there no evidence
0 likes@Resident Evil something tells me the face of her assertion the disappearance of the child would constitute evidence. Don’t you think?
0 likes@Resident Evil understood
1 likeThere is the matter of circumstantial evidences is my mild point
@Patrick Davis Unless more damning evidence appears, being solid proof, the case has to be closed. Cases cannot be reopened otherwise.
0 likes@h mejia in this case its the fact that she is a woman and that she played a sexual abuse card on her father , it has nothing to do with skin color , dont lie to your self
1 like@Raven Valentine all those are valid factors and nine of course can be wrong but to pompously discount the possibility of extra leeway she may receive because of race bias as bing inconceivable Is rife with the self lying you accuse me of. It’s called projection
0 likesthe defendant was an extremely good debater. Not that she should've walked free... but the debating skills were apparent, which helped them win.
0 likes@h mejia Here...have a glass of OJ
2 likes@Kentō lol you killed me xD
0 likes@quetzalcoatlz I was looking for it too!🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@Cliff Block proved my point
0 likes@h mejia you know you could just do something for yourself instead of staying mad about something other racists have made up 🤷🏼♂️
1 like@Wayne Davis lol 😂
0 likesNo. That's called double jeopardy.
0 likesCasey's being unfairly persecuted
0 likesGotta love how stupid Jury’s can be and how dumb our criminal justice system is.
0 likes@Bijyo she got off because she got her lawyer off. He worked extra hard to get her off too.
0 likes@h mejia fr
0 likesBefore you start yet another Lynch mob, let me explain why it makes sense that she went free.
1 likeBefore I start, let me indicate that she is absolutely 100% guilty of the crime. She murdered her own flesh and blood because she wanted to be a party girl. However, the reason that she went free is not because the jury was incompetent, but rather the prosecutor and the investigators.
In America, our standard of guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt and everyone is presumed innocent until proven otherwise. Going in with that assumption, Jose Baez, who was Casey's attorney, is an excellent attorney. As far as lawyers go. He was able to poke holes and the investigatory process and introduce other; explanations as to the death of her child that the prosecutor was not able to disprove beyond a reasonable doubt.
While she should be in jail for the rest of her life, the fact of the matter is that with the way that the judicial system operates and with the way that the events played out at her actual trial, her going free was the correct choice.
@edbo10 tell me another joke
0 likesA lawyer with questionable ethics and intent, masterfully applying deception and manipulation to successfully defend an accused (and almost certainly guilty) murderer.
0 likesGood to see "justice" being served. In a legal system which allows two ruthless sociopaths to walk out of that courtroom.
I kinda want to play d&d with her. She's so good at fabricating npcs and plotlines on the fly!
11 likesI swear It's REALLY hard to watch until the end especially the part when the attorney acusses her father of sexual abuse. Absolutely heartless.
2 likesThis is the first time that im actually sitting here looking/ listening to all the evidence they had for this case and I AM BEYOND PISSED besides all the lies and stuff the fact that shes more interested in trying to speak to her BF than trying to help in any way to help find her kid just screams guilty like wtf
0 likesPretty incredible to see someone construct an entire family tree and life story for a non-existent nanny so quickly in such a convincing manner.
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So racist too.
75 likes@EmpireSun Why racist?
12 likes@YouTube Censors uhh, no, because she fabricated a random minority with an overly lengthy, stereotypical name in a stereotypical profession to be her scapegoat.
234 likes@natalia What type of nanny would you have come up with??
29 likes@BruhMomentHD R good retort any name she give is racist.
10 likes@BruhMomentHD R well, it is quite surprising that the first thing she came up with was a mixed, black puerto-rican with a long stereotypical name working in a low-paying job.
97 likesMY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
2 likes@BruhMomentHD R not fernandez gonzales
7 likes@Your local archaeologist 1 so what? Hernandez Gomez?
3 likesOnly a master of manipulation could do that.
10 likesI am impressed, we cannot deny that she is too god at lying.
4 likes@natalia if there are more hispanic babysitters than caucasian, and I am to lie to police about a baby sitter, why would not one use a name that others are most likely to believe? If she said Fredrik Andersson would that in itself not raise suspicion? It is not racist if there is a statistical cause to it.
11 likes@BruhMomentHD R Mrs Doubtfire
1 like@CATIFY If that’s surprising, you’ve never been to Florida. Y’all wanna be triggered so bad lmao. It’s Florida that’s who 99 times out of 100 will be a nanny. Who’d you think she was with? KayleighLou Mayosmith? Sheesh thanks tumblr wokes for being offended on my big brown behind though 🤦🏾♀️😂😂
14 likes@AntiKiwieCS thank you. It’s called increasing the probability people will believe your BS like criminals do. I’m Latina and had she said Hannah I’d have been like 🤨 🤔 She said she left her there overnights. That’s not your high school baby sitter that’s a whole nanny. Slow people smh
3 likes@Chantal Doesn't calling her racist mean YOU'RE the person automatically thinking of race? If the 1st thing you think is about the race of the fake nanny, it just seems like you may constantly have race on the mind.
6 likesNot YOU in particular, but whoever said it.
Most people think she said "Zenaida", a Spanish name, because people named Zenaida shorten it to "Zanny". The only other "Zannies" people refer to are the pills, Xanax. It's commonly believed she would knock Caylee out with Xanax when she partied, saying Caylee is watched by "zanny the nanny".
so quickly? she had 31 days to think over it.
4 likes@EmpireSun I like tacos and burritos
0 likes@Alice Ayres Exactly, I mean I'm Latina and I don't find that offensive. What is really offensive is that she killed a child.
4 likes@Chantal Doubt it. She just made up the lie on the spot don't you think? Like calling her Zanny the Nanny.
0 likes@Gemma G. no she knew what she was doing
0 likes@⭐️ Patrice 👄 why would i ever go to florida lmao? even if what youre saying is true, coming up with tht on the spot...
0 likesI never heard about this case (I live in the UK) and… just… wow.
0 likesI’m almost lost for words.
That defence attorney is far too good at his job and, though I understand hindsight is 20-20, I am amazed that a jury could find her not guilty.
I had a retired cop friend of mind tell me when this case first broke that Casey was guilty. I asked how he knew and he said he could tell by her eyes.
2 likesI'm amazed how her lawyer threw her father under the bus. Pure evil!!
2 likesI had vaguely heard of this case before, but only fully learned of it last night when I stumbled on a documentary on Hayu where an expert team go through everything again. She is so obviously a Sociopath, I am not sure how anyone could not see it! She lies with great ease, but her lies are not even intelligent ones as they are so easy to prove as lies.
0 likesShe truly repulses me. Some have said that she drugged her daughter with Xanax, hence the zanny reference... must have thought she was being clever there...and would put her in the trunk of her car whilst she went clubbing or partying, which was all she seems to care about, even to this day. With the Florida heat, the child died due to the heat and Casey simply shrugged and tried to carry on until the smell became noticeable.
I have seen a lot of people, including someone who spoke to one of the experts who interviewed her for 100 hours, claim this, but then, where would the search about how to suffocate, come in? She apparently, never wanted this child and had wanted an abortion, then, when the baby was due, to have her adopted, but her mother wanted her to keep it. I have read that her mother liked to keep up appearances and a certain image. This explains a lot.
The father would have known very quickly when that trunk was opened. He will have recognise the smell of death immediately, due to his job and I feel very sorry for him. I imagine his attempted suicide and the note were because he had seen signs in his daughter and did not act sooner. I imagine that the mother very much controls that household, regardless of how much control he has within his job as a cop. I think he knew right away what she had done, but the mother is either in denial and cannot endure fully accepting it or simply cannot let go of her daughter, in spite of having said to friends she thought she was a Sociopath.
I think the jury were very inexperienced, since they had to search to find people who knew little of the case. Instead of objectively analysing the evidence and actually thinking about what made sense and what did not, from what I have heard from a few, they were more focused on the emotions and theatrics of the prosecution than the actual evidence, facts and her behaviour!
Apparently, she wants another child now, and I hope she does not as any child she has will go the same way. She has not evolved at all and still seems to spend most of her time in bars and flitting from far fetched job to far fetched job. I find it infuriating that there is no way to do a retrial.
She searched online for "suffocation", takes 30 days to report her child missing, avoid putting her daughter on the phone to talk with her parents, go to parties, gets a tattoo "Living the good life" , while her child is missing, lies about her workplace and coworkers, says her child was with Zanny the nanny and then she goes free? ...I need a whiskey!
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It’s disgusting!
70 likesif she was another color though.
83 likes@Leann Hocus Pocus omfg I was just thinking the same thing
24 likesIf it was a father then he would've been put under the jail without a second thought. This whole case fuckin disgusts me, there was so much evidence that points to her and the way she fucking acted afterwards and she still gets off without a slap on the wrist. Goddamn I hate the justice system
54 likesI'm gonna take me a bubble bath and try to process the utter horseshit I just heard lol
17 likesMoon Moon yep me too
2 likesFemale privilege, people are very heavily biased to see her as innocent. Since shes a 7/10 and didn't kill her kid on camera she goes free.
34 likes@milspire exactly! I'm a chick and I can even admit that I have a better chance at getting nothing but a slap on the wrist when it comes to certain shit and its utter bullshit. The double standard is so unbearably stupid.
21 likesShe didn't go free she actually got arrested for lying to the police. Maybe not as intense but take the win if you can get it.
1 like@Amarathros yeah but she was able to walk because they decided that she served enough time waiting for trial (3 years) but yeah at least she was found guilty for something
4 likesClassic case of over-confident prosecution. They knew they could not prove certain elements of the crime but chose to pursue the charges anyway as opposed to tailoring the charges to fit the evidence available.
13 likesPretty lil white girl. Life on EZ
5 likes@flyinghippos123 yep, that's it. Just like Jodi Arias, or Amber Guyger. Or Martha Stewart. Dahlia Dippolito. Should I go on, or do you get my drift?
0 likesShe should hook up with OJ.... see which one kills the other first! At least one murderer would finally get what they deserve!
5 likes@History with Felix we dont live in that world sadly mate.
1 likeI need ALL the whiskey.
0 likesThis is a better final statememt than the prosecution did.
1 likeNo no sir, you need a tall bottle of fucking vodka!
1 likeJust imagine how much harm this sociopathic woman will now cause to other people during the rest of her life! She might even continue murdering people as she now knows how easy it is to get away with murder.
4 likesHow utterly irresponsible to let such a human roam freely ....
@MrMustangMan was the duct tape found on the mouth and nose? weren't the remains decomposed, didn't they say something about skeletal remains?
0 likesAll of you commenting, she murdered her daughter and got away with it. I followed this story when it happened. And since this shit all ended and casey disappeared she started a fucking daycare like wtf. So sickening. So I just dont understand this world anymore.
0 likes@Moon Moon If it was a father, if it was a black lady, why don't we just stop scapegoating race/sex and just see the life for what it really is: unfair. Some people get lucky, some people don't
0 likes@Angie T well, I can't simply punch a person in the face and then say "ooooh bad luck buddy, life is unfair". if people aren't accountable for their actions then society doesn't work anymore
0 likesI would think that would be a direct link between the search and how she died. If suspects robs a bank later it is found they were looking up banks and bank robberies the night before on the internet. Isnt the suspects most likely guilty of the robbery?
0 likes@History with Felix bec it’s 2020 and everything has to be about race apparently
0 likes...Holy shit, I thought I was up on the details of this case but somehow I'd never read that diary entry of hers where she talks about having "made the right decision." I am floored. Literally I'm speechless.
0 likesPretty sure if this was a he dude would have been found guilty without a second thought.
1 like@Moon Moon you mean the American justice system
1 like@Marquis DeBlodey white dad maybe gets 20+ years anybody black man or woman gets death penalty
0 likesso sickening
0 likesCorrect me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it her mother that ended up reporting Caylee missing? And the only reason her mom knew was because she had to track down Casey herself, I don't think Casey had any intention of ever reporting Caylee missing herself.
1 like@milspire you’re being a bit generous calling her a 7. maybe an Ohio 7, def not a a Florida 7
0 likesA male would get caught. Blame the women protecting system.
0 likesNow you know that not always that justice has been served, it is life, really lack of fairness and no responsibility has been filled related to a child's death. How beautiful this life is!
0 likesSo, I have a question about the law and everything in general. So the Defense Attorney had to try to turn gult away into not guilty. Personally, I would’ve just walked out. What would actually happen if the defense attorney were to just walk out of the case? Could they go to jail? Lose their job?
0 likesI would love to hear what the jurors in this trial think about the case today.
0 likesJust read this excerpt from a recent update on what she’s been up to since her daughters death… talk about a narcissist..
0 likes“In December 2020, Anthony launched a private investigation firm in Florida. Paperwork for a new company titled “Case Research & Consulting Services LLC” was filed with the Florida Division of Corporation under her name on December 14, according to documents obtained by The Daily Mail.
Although some reports have implied that Anthony wants to investigate the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter, a source close to Anthony told People in January 2021 that’s not the case. “That’s a closed chapter in her life,” said the insider. “She’s not starting a company to get answers about Caylee.”
The fact that her parents, the same people that lovingly believed all her lies and still tried to give her the opportunity to live a normal life, knew RIGHT AWAY that she did something to Caylee, says enough.
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They knew they had created a monster at that point. When he's speaking with his daughter in jail he makes a comment wishing he was a better father...
167 likes@Saint Lynnie 💀
27 likesThe parents should take some responsibility for the fact Caylee never had to be accountable, they were enablers.
51 likesI knew a person in my life that was showing these qualities of a pathological liar and their parents just going along with it. Watching this case really reminds me of it. It’s crazy
28 likesRight. The mom called the cops initially and then felt sympathy for Casey and totally screwed the prosecution. Crazy people.
14 likes@Jay Byrd i knew i recognized that look
2 likes@sam johns he did, he said he wished he was a better father
2 likes@Bryanx317 Parents ALWAYS wish they were better parents, so that means nothing at all. Even fantastic parents who give their kids everything including all the love in the world still think they are not being the best parent. Parents always lack confidence in their abilities as parents.
7 likesIt’s awefull when parents know before hand.
0 likes@Bryanx317 Some children are born even with perfect parents. And on the other hand of the spectrum; if you look at Amy Winehouse's father (see the documentary) and see the result, we see a damaged daughter, not a psychopath. It is been suggested Casey was brought up without consequences for her actions, but I don't know if that's enough to create a monster.
4 likes@Saint Lynnie brutal comment lol
0 likesThis lawyer is gonna bust Hell wide open. To conclude that the word of a pathological liar against her father, without investigation or corroboration is an unthinkable breach of justice. This makes the judge a useless figure, allowing such drivel to proceed unchecked and unquestioned. So now, not only does Casey murder her child, she then butchers her own father's reputation. In light of this "revelation", was George investigated and convicted? This whole proceeding was disgusting on the part of the defence. And for a jury to fall for that line of reasoning, speaks very poorly of our society in general. This is the original "me too" synopsis. Well after the Joe Biden vs Justice Thomas incident. (Let's go Brandon!)
2 likes@Maggie Pp anyone ever called you Magpie?
0 likes@Maggie Pp anyone ever called you Magpie?
0 likes@Jay Byrd AOC fo sho!
1 likeJust read this excerpt from a recent updated on what she’s been up to since her daughters death… talk about a narcissist..
0 likes“In December 2020, Anthony launched a private investigation firm in Florida. Paperwork for a new company titled “Case Research & Consulting Services LLC” was filed with the Florida Division of Corporation under her name on December 14, according to documents obtained by The Daily Mail.
Although some reports have implied that Anthony wants to investigate the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter, a source close to Anthony told People in January 2021 that’s not the case. “That’s a closed chapter in her life,” said the insider. “She’s not starting a company to get answers about Caylee.”
Sounds like very submissive parents and she was taught early on that lying was beneficial. If she was already a narcissist than that’s a breeding ground for escalation.
4 likesIts beyond me how such a creature can be free with all that evidence while theres people jailed without evidence at all
0 likesStay strong JCS. You started and set the precedence of a new genre.
1 likeThis makes it blatantly obvious that she killed her child, yet she faced no consequences, just like she always hadn't.
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God will give her justice.
79 likes@Emma Swan only if he really exists
204 likes@R K And, like her, he possibly never will. It's shameful. Hopefully, there is some sort of unrelated charge (Fraud, etc) that prohibits him from the possibility of running again. Even though I believe he would lose again.
20 likes@Ben Smith Don’t think R K is comparing the level of their criminality, simply the fact that they never face ANY accountability for their evil actions….
28 likesOMG 24:45 EPUC MOMENT OF "DUPING GLEE" THAT EVEN THE NARRATOR YOTALLY MISSED!!
3 likesikr, she must think now she can do whatever she wants, probably getting manic very soon and doin' some shit. It's crazy too that there's a whole group of psychopaths doing a strategically tricking defense just for the sake of gaining reputation for cases like this where the accused one is obviously guilty but could be safed by fooling a bunch of people who probably didn't even remember half the speech but "got raped, had to lie, that's not fair". The Defendor even said that they DON'T KNOW what is actually true so it's not right to 'suppose' she's guilty whilst not having enough evidence for the actual murder-part but end his speech with "the charges are simply not true" without having enough evidence of proving they aren't. What a bunch of bs, man, what a bunch of bs.
10 likes@gabyyte nah she only made up that "god" guy. Even said he was working at universal but it was proven to be wrong..
5 likes@SrevA11 dammit, i didnt think she could fool me too.
0 likes@Tyler Schneider That'd imply he ever committed a crime, besides making yall's butt hurt.
2 likes@R K tRUMP supporters KNOW 2 + 2 = 4, they CHOOSE not to believe it. That’s what blind loyalty gets ya.
7 likes@Sayuri don't tell people to grow up when you read x holy book and just take eveything at face value despite there being very little evidence that whatever god you believe in exist. Like come on.
6 likes@Sassy The Sasquatch you can have the opinion that both are bad lmao. Bernie supporter here, hated Biden too but he was still a fuckload better than Trump on most issues.
3 likesI'm confused if there was duct tape on the body of caylee, why did the defense say she drowned in a swimming pool? Uhh, there was literal duct tape showing she was killed in other means.
4 likes@R K It’s just the fact you want to make an irrelevant joke related to donald trump over such a horrific murder case is what people are giving you backlash for, we understood your joke just didn’t find any humor in it regarding a video like this.
5 likesIt makes no sense. It’s so unfair. She’s so guilty. She’s such a liar. It makes me sick she walks free.
4 likes@Emma Swan god will be too slow. I can deliver directly
0 likes@Sayuri i just lectured him out of atheism dw buddy.
2 likes@TheReverseEffect ah yes, because a massive rise in inflation, gas prices, food prices and the threat of nuclear war from Chinese state media is better than mean tweets.
2 likes@R K do you people never think of anything but that man. Go do something with your life man you're wasting it
5 likes@Ben Smith tm
0 likesIvmmmmmmmm
@Sayuri I’m atheist
0 likes@gabyyte god is exist, if god dont exist so who gonna punish this woman? 😃
0 likes@R K you are insufferable. This is a video about Casey Anthony and somehow you have related it to Donald Trump. You need physiological evaluation
2 likes@R K Orange man bad!! - 🤓
3 likes"No consequences"?
0 likes@R K biden need to take responsibility for abusing multiple women and little girls but trump not trampling on the human rights of others is the problem trump cant control people or a virus he isnt a god and to soley blame him for virus deaths is like blaming a veteran for getting drafted
2 likes@TheReverseEffect As someone who is getting his graduate degree in physics, you oughta know that lack of evidence does not mean something is false or no exist. Plus, I haven’t even disclosed my beliefs on the subject. And regardless, an omnipotent God is unfalsifiable. Meaning it is by definition impossible to prove wrong. Hope this bit of education helps you realize how much of a hypocrite you are. And to turn a comment about how a child murderer deserves divine punishment into a debate bout religion is just so juvenile and immature.
1 like@R K last time i checked we are called the land of the free the president is not responsible for other people action Trump locked down the country, urged the private sector to make mask and ventaltors and increase testing that all he can do he cant control the people and force them to lockdoqn thats not his job and it never was im sorry you want a dictator as president but i dont he said it was the states responsibility to handle their people the fedral government would supply the medical stuff that is how this country was designed the state trumps the federal government not the other way around
2 likes@Sayuri Also, by this logic, I can say "Oh, actually, we were created by a species of gallatic unicorns so they could more closely monitor and understand life" when actually, while this is non falsifiable, you'd look crazy believing this
0 likes@MK out of curiosity, where do you get your information?
0 likes@Ahmad sleiman no need to get so defensive about it, i can have my own personal beliefs.
0 likes@AnZaI probably no one
0 likes@Sayuri calm down dude its not that serious
1 like@Jose Alcala 👏👏👏👏 thank you
0 likes@Edmund Dantes nope
0 likesI can't finish this one because seeing this evil woman walk free makes me sick. At least the other stories end with justice
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Not really. When you put 12 idiots in a jury box, stuff like this happens from time to time.
0 likesTo this day I still don't know what the jury did here. She lied about the nanny and she even said she spoke with the kid a week earlier, when she was already far dead. She never reported it, shows no attachment for the child whatsoever, her car smelled like a dead body, wrote in her diary that it's the happiest she's ever been and wrote that "she hopes the means justify the actions" in her diary, explaining that the time without the kid is the happiest she's been. She said that she had nothing to spoke with the police when the 911 call and also made up Jeffrey's whole thing. And also the nanny didn't even exist so she is trying to be deceitful for the police to find her child, which only makes sense if she's the murderer. I just can't understand how she was found guilty of nothing, not even child neglect, and now is just out there.
2 likesI love the defense lawyer, he’s such a jackass and comes off like a car salesman, even the way he’s dressed. Even though it’s awful that she walked, that was some damn good lawyering he did
0 likesIn September 2008, a Zenaida Gonzalez sued Casey for defamation. During the investigation, Anthony told investigators that she left 2+1⁄2-year-old Caylee with a babysitter named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez—also known as "Zanny"—on June 16 at the stairs of a specific apartment in the Sawgrass apartment complex located in Orlando. Zenaida Gonzalez, who was listed on apartment records as having visited apartments on that date, was questioned by police, but stated she did not know Casey or Caylee.[182] Her defamation suit sought compensatory and punitive damages, alleging that Casey willfully damaged her reputation.[183] Gonzalez told reporters that she lost her job, was evicted from her house, and received death threats against herself and her children as a result of Anthony's lies. Gonzalez' lawyer, John Morgan, said he wanted to interrogate Anthony about Caylee's death because it was "the essence" of the defamation suit.
1 likeOn October 8, 2011, Morgan deposed Casey via a video conference. She exercised her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination and answered only a couple of factual questions. Morgan felt that was improper, but legal experts thought that Anthony was well within her rights to plead the Fifth until her appeals of the convictions for lying to officers had been exhausted.[185] Gonzalez' attorneys sought and received permission to obtain Anthony's address (though it was kept sealed from the public) so they could subpoena her to testify, even if she only took the stand long enough to plead the Fifth. However, Gonzalez had been willing to drop the suit if Anthony were to apologize to her and compensate her for pain and suffering.[186][187] In September 2015, a judge ruled in favor of Anthony, stating: "There is nothing in the statement…to support (Gonzalez') allegations that (Anthony) intended to portray (the nanny) as a child kidnapper and potentially a child killer."
In July 2011, Texas EquuSearch (TES), a non-profit group which assisted in the search for Caylee from July to December 2008 when she was believed to be missing, sued Anthony for fraud and unjust enrichment. TES estimates that it spent more than $100,000 searching for Caylee even though she was already dead.[189] TES founder and director Tim Miller estimates that the abortive search for Caylee expended 40% of the group's yearly resources which could have been spent looking for other missing children. It only learned that Anthony knew all along that Caylee was dead when the trial began.[190] TES and Anthony eventually settled out of court on October 18, 2013. TES was listed as a creditor to Anthony and was entitled to $75,000
Her conversations with her mother are terrifying, the manipulation is frankly stunning. She is beyond cold.
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you’re mixing stuff up. sociopathy is the result of an abusive childhood and is a disordered adaptation and illness. on the contrary, psychopaths are born, not made that way due to their environment. this is the current general consensus in psychology. Schizophrenia has more of a clear genetic link than it does to abuse.
39 likes@Makica 1981 sociopaths are made thru abuse and trauma at a young age, psychopaths are just born that way.
2 likesShe reminds me of Dahlia. DEMON possessed!
3 likes@Bob Smith No, you can be born a sociopath just the same as a psychopath.
5 likes@Jason Bladzinski yeah, i was thinking the same. But they arent wrong in a way. Shit loads of trauma and abuse will increase odds of illness and disorders in the mind. Did the trauma cause the illness or just bring it out within them? A real chicken or egg question.
7 likesI think Casey was definitely guilty she was using tactics that sociopaths always use
2 likesJames Michaels you have it closes to the truth. The causes of personality disorders are still not fully understood and are constantly changing as more research is being done on how exactly the human brain works. Genetic and environmental influences both play apart in personality disorders, genes make you vulnerable/more susceptible to developing a personality disorder and environmental/life situation may trigger the actual development. Substance abuse is also believed to be a trigger as well.
1 likeChris Leslie love it when an incel comments. Always make themselves known by these classic comments. Cheers for the laugh
6 likesYup, the way she speaks to her parents, especially her mother is WILD. and you can tell she controlled them that way since she was a small child.
1 likeT.E. Ross dipolitto?
0 likes@Chris Leslie haha
0 likesJose will pay the price in the spiritual realm. He represented her for power and to win . its really on his hands now
3 likesSomeone mentioned strict - I think that is true due to the fact that her father is a police man, her monther fabricated the whole school fiasco just so they can save their faces from being branded as a bad parent.
2 likes@Andler thanks bud
0 likesIAMParaDROID do you mean when Casey is talking to her mom through the jail phone in person? Or when she is talking to her from the jail (the long distance call)? Or both?
1 like@Rachel Goodman Both, but especially the initial conversation (early on in the video at least) in which she basically blames her own mother for being in jail.
0 likes@IAMParaDROID I'll have to rewatch the video so I can find that part! Jim packs so much content into each video that sometimes I can't keep track of which part is which! You're right though...the manipulation is stunning. I wonder if her mom realized her whole life that she was being manipulated by her daughter (maybe in denial?) or if she honestly has had no idea.
1 like@Arnel Emnace I think her father being a police officer had a lot to due with her sentencing! They should have charged her with second degree murder, even if it seems obvious given the evidence that it was first degree to us, court cases in criminal investigations are heavily scrutinized and have strict parameters of what evidence can be used, including how it was obtained.
0 likesBut yes no doubt her Dad had some pull in this. Her family seemed to care a lot about optics, even when visiting her in jail it was do hard to watch how "loving" her parents were to her.
@Bob Smith that isn't what sociopaths is. Sociopaths are generally born that way. A terrible childhood makes them worse, and can essentially turn them into "psychopaths". However, a sociopath raised in a loving home still has no ability to feel emotion. They have been essentially " pretending to be emotional beings" since the day they were born.
0 likesI thought the question was going to be between life imprisonment and death sentence, not that she was going to be found not guilty, what in the actual f***
4 likesLove the channel, the voice. Hope you come back. I never watch videos twice, I've watch these 2 or 3 times and don't get tired of them.
4 likesIt's nice to hear cops having a human reaction to a psychopath as opposed to all the coddling and stroking of Chris Watts. Even though it was necessary.
3 likesSee this particular psychopathy can be enabled by meth coke and booze, or "the happiest she has ever been" as she says. Anti psychotics will induce an overwhelming feeling of remorse, followed by a permanent state of PTSD dementia symptoms
6 likesThis woman literally lied herself out of a murder sentence. Wow
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She was raised thinking that lying will get you out of anything, and I hate it so damn much that it did in this case. She should of been given the chair.
955 likesHow could the jurors not even have found neglect - did they actually attend the trial? Shame shame on them, how do they live with themselves, 11 hours given to the subject - they wanted to go home.
48 likescam lacasse I agree she’s guilty af but they need solid proof, they can’t make a conviction of a lack of emotion alone
120 likes@Louis Waze Lack of emotion??? Last one seen with child; no one ever saw child again; car smelled of death; would not let her father go into the trunk; 31 days not reporting child missing; child's remains found in same clothes she left home with on the 16th; lies and more lies and still more lies; and you think the jury were looking for emotion? Well, you know that is the first thing that makes sense as to how they could find her not guilty. There is nothing else to pin not guilty on, with OJ it was race, but this amazed me until now, "she needed to show emotion" in addition to all the other factors. OMG!
41 likescam lacasse lol I never argued she was innocent did you not even read my comment, at the end of the day it comes down to how the defendants and so forth argue their points in court and clearly the opposing side went more of an emotional biased which the defendants lawyer used against them, I never once defended her, I simply defended the system we have set in place which was wasn’t taken advantage of by said convectors
21 likes@Louis Waze When you are in a court of law as a juror emotions should never replace FACTS - no matter how stupid one is or how insignificant they feel as a juror. 11 hours of deliberations tells you everything - hey, enough of this, let's get home. Emotions displaced the fact that Caylee was missing for 31 days and that does not reflect neglect? These jurors have to live with themselves and know they left a very dangerous person wild on our streets, who will kill again just you wait and see, this is not the end of Casey Anthony and her crimes.
12 likes@Louis Waze There are so many cases where people have been convicted with FAR less compelling circumstantial evidence. The justice system failed Caylee miserably.
385 likes@cam lacasse If it were my county, the jury may let her go. But she'd go missing just like that child. She got lucky, the evidence wasn't found soon enough. There are certain things we shouldn't let slide, all of the evidence points towards her, it sadly just wasn't strong enough. But as I said, justice doesn't always just end with a jury. What is justice if not just revenge with a new coat of paint?
29 likes@Zachary Kidd You don't find she was guilty of neglect by not caring for her child - her imaginary friends were obviously not caring for Caylee, the grandparents wanted to see her and knew Casey was using passive aggressiveness to keep them away they probably thought. No one but Casey knew Caylee was missing - no one knew for 31 days - and that isn't neglect? Neglect that hinges on murder since the smell of death was in Caseys car and since no one saw Caylee after the 16th the day after the blow up with her mother. Casey blamed Caylee and got rid of her that day. I used to think accident - but not any longer - an envious jealous rage and get rid of this child, my child, which my mother prefers to me and without her I can have the life I want. Oh, Casey will kill again - hope it is one of the juror's family members.
5 likesAnd she’s cute so…
15 likes@cam lacasse which of those facts are meant to be proof beyond reasonable doubt that she committed first degree murder? That is not the way the law works. The fault if any is with the prosecution, not jurors.
6 likes@cam lacasse the prosecution didn't have enough evidence to convict. As soon as the news channels brought up the fact that the evidence they went forward with was unprecedented (the smell of the trunk) for convictions showed it was a rocky chance of conviction at best
14 likesShitty... but impressive
13 likesStill, it doesn't make any sense that some people believed her...
13 likesThe was proof she lied, proof she didn’t care about her child, but no proof that SHE was the murderer. That’s why she got away.
19 likes@Ricky Anthony I totally agree with this statement. Some people don't know what "beyond reasonable doubt" means legally
11 likes@cam lacasse I think it is that the evidence points to "no one else" instead of "it is her" that made it insufficient. And female privilege is added onto the court. As race and gender is unable to pin her down.
15 likes@1 Mol I thin the jurors were tired and spent 11 hours to determine that a woman and her child last seen was found months later in the same clothes; no one had seen the child since that day, June 16. The mother continuously lied as to where or who had the little girl. There is a terrible death smell in the car after it is left by a dumpster and we know the mother left the car since her boyfriend picked her up and she explained that eventually her father would get the dar. Of course she lied and no one knew for 31 days that this little girl was even missing. Then it became an onion of lies, one after the other. She told no one her child was missing. She borrowed the shovel from net door. The child's hair - fallen from her dead head because of banding was in the trunk, along with the decomposition smell and chloroform. Now, how could anyone hearing this not convict this woman? Shame, shame on a lazy, don't give a darn for justice as we want to go home.
2 likes@cam lacasse You are literally wishing for the murder of an innocent person. Sounds like you have such a great idea of justice.
2 likes@matrixfan58 No. I am all for justice, especially for a two year old that got in her mother's way of having fun and sleeping over with her boyfriend.
0 likesNot really, Jose Baez is basically the millenniums Johnny Cochran only probably a lot better. Thats how she got off.
5 likes@cam lacasse I hate to break it to you but that's all circumstantial evidence, which is not enough to prosecute on. That would set a bad precedent for any case after it. The prosecution really bungled the case, and the police did too. Police got a call for Caylees body (reported as a plastic bag) like a month after her death, no one went to investigate. The google search for suffocation only occurred on a Firefox web browser, and the police only mined data from another browser. I believe she's guilty as sin, but the evidence was so scant against her. Had Forensic methods and due process been the same as they are today, they probably would have built a stronger case.
17 likesIMO they should have went for lesser charges like infringing on an investigation, lying under oath, child neglect for not reporting her daughter missing, etc. They could have gotten that no problem.
@doom buddie You know what before we had DNA every case was circumstantial evidence. Unfortunately we do not have a video of every murder committed, so we have to use common sense and connect the dots. This woman will kill again and that is the precedent this will set. Both she and OJ - got away with murder. But to murder the innocent child of two takes a very evil person with a very dark core. God will.gave His Karma and it will not be pretty. Just imagine if she had gone through with her plan to also murder her parents - so she could get the house. She will make headlines again one of these days, This kind of murderer doesn't just quit.
1 likehad 12 jurors who seemed to have had to have a video in order to show them how she exactly murdered Caylee. They had no common sense to connect the dots and they wanted to go home -- 11 hours of deliberation - tired of this and to heck with any judicial responsibility we have to the 2 years old victim, this helpless innocent child murdered by her own mother. How do they sleep at night?
0 likes@PenskePC23
@cam lacasse I really urge you to look up the definition of circumstantial evidence. Law enforcement does it's best with the evidence they have at the time, I'm not sure what else you can do about that. If you just want a court system based on on only circumstantial evidence and what you THINK may have happened, that's only a few degrees away from total kangaroo court. Setting aside this case, and broadening our view to the court system and general, I would like to think that if you or I were accused of a crime they would use the best evidence and methods they have at the time - not just shaky evidence or something that might vaguely put you there just because you left your hair there or something. Would you not agree?
2 likes@doom buddie I am a paralegal so I do know the meaning of circumstantial. Do you? A mother who murdered her two year old helpless and innocent child is out on our streets, that scares me.
0 likes@cam lacasse whatever may be the case, you have to agree the evidence was not solid enough. You cannot lock people up based on what you think they may do, or on how you feel about them. You need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
2 likes@doom buddie You have your opinion. I suggest to you that you excuse yourself from any jury in future as you unless they have a video of the crime committed. I don't agree, I agree with the Judge who was so stunned, shocked, he said he actually had to read the sentence twice to be sure he read it correctly. He said the prosecution proved its case and that both sides of lawyers were very good. He went on to say, that PERHAPS, it was an accident that the mother gave too much chloroform and went on to mention the two Casey Anthonys. As soon as the jury came in she was silent and a victim; but when the jury exited the court room, she laughed, giggled, talked to the attorneys and it seemed she was even ordering them what to do. I am of the same opinion of the judge who was in charge of this notorious trial by careless and stupid jurors.
0 likes@cam lacasse I'm sorry you feel that way but you need more evidence other than a person acting gross. I would expect I wouldn't be selected for jury service because of my own forensic experience anyhow. Shut it with the snappy comments and look at the evidence at hand. Even the jurors thought she was guilty but there was not enough evidence.
1 like#Justice4Caylee
6 likes@Louis Waze she literally lied about everything. If we are friends, you are murdered and i lie about where i was and i got caught im a prime suspect. What she lied about is far worse tho, inventing people among others.
3 likes@DHAGSFU you’re emotions don’t count as evidence they are simply an indicator, for example if someone acted suspiciously they couldn’t use this as evidence in court, they could however use it as support for a point e.g the person is guilty because of whatever and this is also supported through their mannerisms etc but it is not convicting evidence. I AM NOT DEFENDING HER I AM DEFENDING OUR LEGAL SYSTEM!
4 likes@Louis Waze what about the duct tape on the skeleton?
6 likes@doom buddie First off, I really like your comments. Insightful and non-emotional. Can you please tell me, how the duct tape on the victim does not blow apart the defendants story about how that victim drowned in a pool?
6 likes@Ann D. did you not read my previous comments. If you actually bother to do so you can see I am arguing that evidence is needed as people tried saying she was guilty just because of her mannerisms and speech,which do you think what you just said should be listed as. If you’re quick you’ll realise I have no issue with this as this is evidence, not something I was arguing against.
2 likes@Louis Waze I did read your argument and heartily agree with you on all points. But I still wonder why the duct-tape on the skeleton would be something she could talk her way out of, or, in hopefully better words, something that would not prove her child was murdered, not drowned, as well as her involvement in the deed. I honestly am too lazy, or too busy, and certainly too disgusted, to really read up on the case, so I just hope to find someone here who might know how that seemingly crucial piece of evidence got crushed by the defense.
5 likes@Ann D. me too, apologies for the aggression I assumed you were disagreeing with what I said so that assumption was my fault. I hope she got locked up for life and never sees the outside world again
0 likes@Louis Waze understandably. Many in that thread did not get what you were saying. And I do have my problems with the circumstantial evidence part, esp. since it seems to applied somewhat randomly. It freed her and O.J. Simpson, but did not help so many other, lower profile cases. And I do believe that duct-tape… well you know that. There is such a very fine line between something being accepted as definite proof or being tossed out. Personally I believe that some things are way less doubtful than a witness-statement. But mainly I am glad I don't have to judge person's life.
1 likeHope she gets what’s coming to her if she’s guilty of murdering her daughter the poor baby...but hey many others get away with murder too she’s not the only one...
1 likeAnd amazingly she didn't even lie well, the prosecutor who tried her should lose their job for fucking up such an obvious case of first degree murder
6 likesI mean seriously, every other person she told police about where clearly either picked totally at random or completely fictitious, she didn't report her child missing, her mum did and you can hear the comparison on the 911 call Caseys mum is beside herself with worry, Casey could be talking about the weather to some complete stranger from her tone, totally unconcerned and just spouting her half baked but clearly well rehearsed lie, her reactions whenever people bring up Caylee compared to when they are talking to her about anything else, she is acting like people keep bringing up an ex that she is glad to be rid of and wishes people would stop asking her about, the fucking duct tape!
Should have also charged her with conspiracy to commit as well, because then at bare minimum, they can present the argument of "well either you did it, or you are covering for someone, all the evidence points to those two things, but considering that everyone you have pointed the finger at is an outright fabrication, it's probably you"
@Louis Waze She had the responsibility for her child. Her explanations are bogus, it's not 'just' the lack of emotions, she is lying as fast as a horse can run! So manipulative to her parents. She is inventing people who doesn't exists. How would the jury not convict her on the basis of indicts? Thats crazy! Do they actually need solid proof to convict in the us? ´The state law supports the same rotten overprotective morals as her parents did. Omg that girl is dangerous. Hope she doesn't get more kids.
2 likes@gitte andersen this isn’t the issue, the problem then lies in the abuse of these powers: unlawful arrests, conspiracy arrests etc etc. I personally don’t believe opinions should be used as evidence as the people will therefore start being arrested due to a majority verdict and not the actual evidence being presented. Both sides have their benefits and negatives but indisputable evidence is the safest way to go when it comes to convicting the right people and that’s very hard to debate otherwise
2 likes@Jared Foogle isn't she a bit old for you?
1 like@Louis Waze In general, I definitely do agree with you. But in some special cases the accused persons explanations totally lack common sense and in this case involves people who doesn't even exists and a dead child. Your right, it's not about opinions - but beside the hard evidence it's also about plausibility. I don't think she would go free where I come from. The problem with unlawful arrests and investigators who has the right to lie to people when they claim things that are not true - are a huge problem in my opinion. It diminishes the trust to the police as an authority. Not allowed for the police in Denmark. On the other hand - a lot of people here do think our verdicts are ridiculous low - for crimes like murder, rape, peadophilea and violence - me too.
0 likes@gitte andersen I agree there should be exceptions but we would need a very good cause to make the call
2 likes@Jared Foogle na mate, your bunk mate in prison is in you
1 like@Davinator_peepo the chair? barbarians
0 likes@Davinator_peepo That's largely why she was acquitted , the prosecutor going for death penalty charges and the jurors refusing to kill a 25 year old woman.
0 likesJodi Arias could never
0 likesAND.....destroyed her father's reputation in the process. She is one of the top MOST narcissistic, manipulative killers of all time. I will never understand how a jury could hear all the evidence (proof of all the lies she told), and still find her "not guilty". An innocent person does not have to lie, let alone tell multiple lies.
2 likesBlame the bullshit system
0 likes@Davinator_peepo it did lol
0 likes@Louis Waze sadly you're right. Her horrible lying doesn't affect how much evidence they have against her
0 likesIt actually worked tho
0 likesthe crazy part is that she didn't even lie well, they literally knew from the first lie that she was making everything up, and she somehow still got away with it despite everyone seeing through her lies. Her mom even says "honey look me in the eyes" multiple times on the jail call, basically saying "I know you are lying to me". What a fucked up case, hard to imagine so many people involved in the prosecution/conviction could collectively drop the ball and allow this one to slip through the cracks. It's like the OJ trial all over again.
4 likesSkills
0 likesthats the entire thing, she didnt. all her lies were exposed and she admitted to them. she lied from the beginning. but the lawyer convinced it was a defense mechanis, my ass. as if working at universal studios helps in any fucking way.
0 likesIt's so disgusting.
0 likesShe's so cute,though
0 likes@Patrick Puspurs whine more pls
0 likesAnd she wasn’t even that good at lying... the whole jury just happened to be extremely stupid.
0 likesGuilty or not guilty u gotta admire the fact she actually lied her ass off and got away it....crazy
0 likesblame the jury system
0 likesCasey is an honest person. She was just really confused and had a hard time coping with Caylee's abduction.
2 likesI teach my child to tell the truth, but honestly in today’s world, I wonder if that’s smart.
0 likesGrace…
0 likesHer lawyer did that.
@[][] Thank you.
0 likesand she’s just living her life like nothing happened. disgusting
8 likesI felt so bad for Cindy when I watched that trial. She loved that baby more than Casey did. I just wish she didn't try to protect Casey, but I think she was deep in denial.
2 likesOne thing that really got to me was the talk with her parents when she said Caylee was so lucky then changed it to is so lucky as if she thought of darn did i just implicate myself. Like she realized the word she used made it sound like she spoke of her daughter as if she was dead and decided to change the word to sound like she spoke of her as being alive.
3 likesNow it makes sense why she got off. There is definitely more questions than answers. Obviously we know she did it but 12 jurors weren’t going to sentence her to death without knowing for sure how Caylee died. She knew there was no evidence and the interrogations were a waste a time. They allowed themselves to be shook by her calm demeanor and they were overly emotional. She had control so there was zero chance of a confession. I think she would have been convicted on lesser charges but the prosecution tried to get too much without enough evidence. This case makes me sick.
1 likeThe fact that she said "She have been lucky to have you as grandparents" and then corrects it to "she IS lucky" is the biggest red flag ever.
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She was lucky to had you as grandFathers, she is still....
31 likes#Justice4Caylee
8 likesI noticed that too! Right at 30 minutes
5 likes"...how glad I am that she's had both of you" does not imply that Casey knows the child is dead. That is something someone might say when a child has experienced something traumatic and the parent is glad for the love given to the child in the past. Something to be thankful for, considering the situation. We can also make a case that by emphasizing that "she IS lucky", Casey was just trying to reassure her parents that Caylee is still alive, for their own sake. Lot's of red flags in this case, but this one is very minor at best.
15 likes@Matt H But you wouldn't say that for a missing kid, you would say that only after the kid is found. I mean, you would say that after the traumatic event, not while it's happening. It needs a conclusion to make sense.
4 likesYou can see her mom realizing
8 likesY E S i was going to comment about that right away
1 like"she HAD both of you"
2 likesThis is not a proof gosh
1 like@Vincenzina Soós oh please are you really taking side with a person that waited one month to report that her child is missing ? This isn’t okay dude in any way possible
2 likesThe thing is though, it's not even grammatically incorrect
0 likes@Spector no but still
0 likes29:50 for the start of the clip
0 likes@Nadia Kanwal Grandfathers?
0 likes@Lex I meant grand Parents
0 likes@Nadia Kanwal Write what you mean then. 👍🏻
0 likesI caught that too. She caught herself then corrected it ...smh
0 likes@Esmee Lin she's had*
0 likes@angelicroz she is not taking her side. Its just not a proof of anything
0 likesSo does the grandpa have to do his own trial for the "3yr old drowning in the pool negligence" or the "penis in daughters mouth" thing or was the statute of limitations like 2 years or something? I don't understand how it was simply dropped after one trial, since "someone" murdered the 3 year old and hid the crime for 4+ weeks
1 likeHer parents throwing her a fake graduation party is crazy on multiple levels. They invited their friends and family over to give their daughter money for a accomplished she never made is sick. The kicker is they added that she was an honor student.
1 likeWhenever I see anything about this case, my heart fills with anger. Did Casey ever say "Caylee"? I heard her say "my daughter" and "she," but I don't believe she actually said "Caylee." Isn't that a sign of her guilt? IF Caylee drowned in the pool, why was there tape around her nose and mouth? Why would it be needed? I believe Casey gave Caylee too much "Zanny the Nanny." (Xanax) I also feel that this decision has convinced other deranged parents that they can get away with murdering their children as well. I will never understand how none of those jurors had reasonable doubt. The media has nothing to do with it. I'm basing my opinion on facts. Damn! I'm so angry!
0 likesIt’s bad enough to see a child killer get away with murder but to see her law team Parading around as if she’s the victim.
1 likeI’m speechless and deeply wishing this case reopens, and is judged by a jury with actual functioning brains.
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If it was no decision jury locked, there would be. But double jeopardy you cant be tried twice. Thats why the menendez brothers were retried with a smarter jury.
50 likesYeah, they only reason they could reopen the case and try her again is if new evidence came up, but at this point that seems very unlikely.
33 likesIt can't reopen im pretty sure I'm not 100 but 98% sure its done now
3 likesIts all about manipulation and emotional appeal. Facts never matter in the end
8 likesShe’s basically blaming her father wtf this case is so cooked
9 likesIts not jurys fault the prosecution was awful. They presented no evidence to prove their theory
5 likes@roberts1711 and the jury didn’t ask for, nor needed proof?
10 likes@J. J. The Victor they do need proof but if the prosecution dont provide it they cant find guilty
3 likesMany of the jurors said that they believed she was guilty but because the death penalty was on the table they lacked solid evidence to convict her.
5 likesIt amazing how this woman is such a pro at lying that she can actually beat a murder when it’s obvious she’s guilty. I am not mad her . I am mad at the prosecutor and the jury and the system.
4 likes@꧁ Orlando Cruz ꧂ dont be mad at the jury if you watched the trial you would see the shitty prosecution left them no choice
1 like@Michael Slack no
0 likes@oberts1711 you know what? I believe you. The prosecutors probably aimed too high with the amount of proof they had which probably wasn’t enough .So we probably would’ve came to the same decision as jury had we been part of that jury with the info given. SMH
1 like@꧁ Orlando Cruz ꧂ no they insisted on going for murder which although we all know she did it. We cant PROVE. Ill describe the issue the jury had.
7 likesThe prosection story they told the Jury had holes. The basicaly said casey left with the child in the car. At some point at an unknown locaton she killed the child using duct tape and then dumped the body.
This is a crazy.theory which brings more questions than answers.
The defense theory said "it was an accident she died in the pool and we panicked and hid the body"
To the jury tue defense story seemed more logical. All evidence presented could fit either theory but since the prosecution didnt give any specific evidence of why their theory was right the jury couldnt give a murder conviction.
The issues with the prosecution theory
1. There was evidence earlier for the jury to suspect the child died in the pool. The pool ladder being down which it shouldnt be.
2. The prosecution insisted casey used duct tape to kill caylee but its a illogical way to picture killing someone.
3. They cited position of duct tape near the skull as poof of murder. But the body was exposed for months and we have evidence it was underwater at points die to flooding. There is evidence wild animals eating the body moved it around. The man who found the body admitted to picking up the bag and the skull falling out. So duct tape ending up at a certain position on the skull means nothing due to how much the skull and body was moved.
4. the jury admitted aftet the defense story made more sense than the prosecution. They stated the prosecution didnt give an explanation of where the murder happended only it was outside the house and how she killed with duct tape.
The prosecution should have also brought lesser charges of neglect. Moving a corpse, manslaughter etc
Or at least come up with a logical story of casey putting her in the pool and walking off and letting her drown as there was evidence all trial the pool played a part and the murder by duct tape was fucking stupid nonsensical idea.
@roberts1711- thanks for that explanation. If everything happened the way you said than I also agree that I would’ve reached the same verdict. I am not going to send anyone to prison for life if I believed it was an accident or if the prosecutor didn’t convince me of their guilt. It must be beyond a reasonable doubt to convict. Thanks again for taking the time.
0 likes@roberts1711 Thank you for the information, but seriously, if it was an accident and she loved her child she would have atleast gave her a proper ‘funeral’ and bury her with due love and respect. The fact that they disposed of the body and the manner it was found in should tell any other jury enough.
2 likes@J. J. The Victor what you described isnt beyond a reasonable dount so any jury finding her guilty for that reason would be wrong
4 likesDouble Jeopardy
2 likesMe too! I hope she goes back to jaillll for a long time.
1 likeNon bis in idem ):
0 likes@Michael Slack I agree totally on that!
0 likes@roberts1711 They had little real evidence. Just a hard one to lose.
0 likesThis won't happen. We have a double jeopardy clause here. If you are acquitted of a crime you cannot be tried again.
1 likeDouble jeopardy. Won’t happen.
0 likes@Michael Slack NOOO listen because youre slow. SHE CANT BE TRIED AGAIN FOR THAT CRIME. So if they found a video that shows her killing her daughter she cannot be tried for the murder of her daughter. It would be against her 5th amendment rights as an american citizen.
0 likesDouble jeopardy. They can’t re open the case , ever .
1 like@MG if you Are found not guilty that’s it,new evidence or not you cannot be tried twice for the same crime. The only way around that is if they tried her on a federal charges now that the state has failed.
0 likes@Michael Slack the case can be reopened but they can’t charge Casey with murder again.... she was found not guilty. She can not be tried twice for the same murder if she was found not guilty. The only way to try her again would be if the other trial had a mistrial or she’d been found guilty and got a retrial on appeal.
0 likes@roberts1711 absolutely! It’s not the jury’s fault- the State didn’t prove their case.
0 likes@Jaimie completely agree and the jury did the right thing.... and even if she’d been found guilty and got the DP she would have won an appeal by now and definitely gotten off death row... the jury got it right considering the State couldn’t prove when, where, how, why Caylee was killed so you can’t sentence someone to death with out that. Unfortunately the State overcharged her and were too arrogant in believing they had the case in the bag.
0 likes@꧁ Orlando Cruz ꧂ exactly- but in this case she was up for the Death penalty- which is why the jury did the right thing. And even if she had been found guilty and gotten the death penalty there would’ve been an appeal and she’d be off Deathrow by now due to the lack of evidence from the state
1 like@Jason Wolfe you’re right. Even if she went on national tv and said “I did it. Yeah! I did it” while doing a plié they still couldn’t touch her. 😂
0 likes@Michael Slack prove the baby drowned
1 like@Michael Slack Right? Honestly I'm surprised she didn't get off and that her dad wasn't jailed from all the lies she told about him...🙄🙄🙄
0 likes@Michael Slack no. The prosecution claimed she was suffocated with duct tape. The defense said she drowned. So you find her not guilty of murder too. Interesting.
0 likesInteresting how they never mention finding the “true” killer
2 likesJCS is THE LEGEND! The amount of true crime youtubers inspired by this channel is astounding. Pls come back. Sincerely fan from the start.
0 likesThere's a revealing moment in the discussion from gaol with her parents when she refers to Caylee in the past tense (technically, the pluperfect) and then immediately corrects herself.
1 likeAny time I have ever seen Casey's face I get boiled with anger. I have two daughters that are everything to me and to think the one person that should love you does the unthinkable. Awful
0 likesIt’s crazy how she makes up these detailed stories of non existent people and without skipping a beat. PSYCHO!!!!!
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@#Anton #FIN Sorry to hear about the involuntary celibacy bro
154 likes@Amphibeing McShpongletron hope she sees this bro
16 likesi'm like that... its a talent
12 likessigns of a sociopathic liar.
24 likes@Michi lying isn't really a talent it's more of a psychological problem. I mean an occasional lies okay but this art of lying is absolutely ridiculous
55 likes@Michi if you're like that than I heartly request you to not give blatent lies after murdering your own daughter. Its disgusting
12 likes@Michi isn't that what writing's all about lol.
2 likesI met a girl like Casey once, but was a cheater not a killer - here's the story:
22 likesIt's amazing to see but it's more crazy to live it. When i went to college we had a group of friends and one of them met a girl somewhere. I went to my friend's house and she was there, they were dating and he intruduced her. For the next 7 months or so she became one more of our group of friends and everybody loved her. Everybody had several things in common with her, you could tell her you love apiculture and she would be like "yeah me too" and was convincing as hell. She went from the newbie to the center of attention in no time. She work at Carrefour and she would make something with the register so my friend could pass a whole full cart and pay just for a shampoo or something (we were broke, not his finest time but hey, she convinced him that was fine and no one will notice). They caught her ofc and fired her and even then she was like "Don't worry it was a shitty job, i'll find something else". 7 months go by and her and my friend went back to our hometown for the weekend i think and my friend's roommate uses his pc and I don't remember how but he find MSN logs of her talking to other 4 different dudes. He tells my friend and he confronts her, she denied every single thing and fabricated a story where my friend's roomate tried to hook up with her and she denied and didn't say anything because did not want to hurt my friend or some skizo thing like that, bonkers. My friend and his roommate are loyal best friends and he knew he wasn't the one lying and at that point he knew something was wrong with her and ended the relationship right there. The next time we all met we basically talk about her and everyone's statement was trully revealing, she played everyone of us like she wanted just to be liked as much as possible. My friend went to her house for the first time after all happenned to tell her parents (was clear at that point that some mental illness was going on) about her condition. Her brother, who knew nothing about my friend dating her, told him she's like this, that has been in mental institutions a couple of times before and he apologized to him for any harm she caused and the best thing he could do is just forget her and let it go. When my friend was telling us this he said that her brother demeanor was shame mixed with sadness and impotence, trully heartbreaking. In hindsight we discerned most of her lies and we can trully say that she didn't said the truth once to anyone, we felt like morons. No idea what was of her after this, she just dissappeared of everybody's life in my group.
@Final Steep my thinking exactly.. i write stories and because of my diagnosis (autism and ADHD) i am more creative and can actually act like i feel something even when i don't or when something doesn't interest me at all like if someone hurt themselves i'd still act like anyone else on the surface where as on the inside i'll be like : shut up about this so we can actually talk about something interesting. i can also lie pretty well as i've gotten out of situations most others would just accept mostly school related like how at our school camping trip i lied about the fact that i couldn't bike i can ride a bike just fine but the fact that i knew we would have to bike several miles a day to get to several places i knew i wasn't going to hold out on that one.. my legs and ass would be black and blue from soreness at the end of the 3 days.. (partially because of the saddle and partially from just being on my feet all the time.. i've always had issues where i can't stand or walk for too long and since i rarely bike at all my ass would be so sore i probably wouldn't be able to sit aferwards) so i put on my biggest worry face and went to the teacher to tell him i couldn't bike.. now parts of the story i told him were truths like how my mother made a huge fall on her bike when she was younger and at the time was still terrified to get on one.. so i told him that because of her fear they never taught me (even though my grandpa taught me the ropes and the rest i just did on my own wich was hard but it was mainly a can i do it or not kind of more mental thing) this is only one of the many times i've lied thing is when i do lie it's usually to not have to do something rather than lieing about not having done something when i really had done something..
3 likesit's actually SOOO ENTERTAINING. SO INTERESTING. AMAZING.
0 likes@Kæla I didn't expect that verdict....
2 likesI was like her. I could spin an intricate lie like nobody's business. I often lied for no reason. Until one day I met my wife. She could see right through me and called out all of my bullshit. One day I decided to tell her who I really was. All the ugly and all the horrible and the disappointing me. The real me nobody else sees. See saw me at my worst, but she still loved me. So I married her. One thing I learned lying all those years is this..no matter how good you are at making up excuses, the Truth is the best excuse.
11 likesThat's what pathological liars do.
3 likesand still gets off.. bruh
2 likes@Dante Fabian aww i hope you guys are doing well.
5 likes@Shaun Bat hell no, me neither! I remember when I watched this in the beginning and everybody was just in complete shock!!!!
1 like@Taylor PeayNever said women couldn't be terrible. Look at the video we're watching. I was just making fun of that dude who says shit incels definitely say, whether he was joking or not. I though I was being pretty funny. Is that "cherishing the ground women walk on"? Of course putting them on a pedestal is ridiculous. So is thinking they're all psychos lol.
4 likesDid someone take my incel joke personally? I wonder who's more scared of an incel joke? Someone who will make one casually for a laugh, or someone who worships the ground other incels walk on? Nice little jump I made there, sound familiar? Projection indeed.
I had a girlfriend like this once. I just couldn't stop getting flashbacks of her when listening to Casey. My ex had triple life with 3 different men and wouldn't stop lying even when presented with undeniable proofs. People like this really exist in the wild and you wouldn't know because of how excellent their lying skills are.
3 likes@Taylor Peay nice false dilemma. Or you really think one may praise women OR be sexist/aggressive without any middle options?
3 likesI used to be able to do that when I had strict parents lmao she is too old for this
2 likes@Dante Fabian “the truth is the best excuse” u had me in the first half Ngl
0 likes@Amphibeing McShpongletron 👏🏽👏🏽
1 likeI used to lie the same way as a young kid/teenager. In her case it's because she's a sociopath trying to cover her tracks. In my case it was because I was afraid of being punished, and afraid of not fitting in, so I would create elaborate lies to either get people to like me, or to get out of stupid little things. It only stopped when a friend of mine finally sat down with my parents and started listing off things I had said to find out if they were true or not. I came home to find him chatting with them, and they ended up calling me out on a lot of my lies. My friend then told me that I didn't need to lie to him for him to like me or think I was cool. He already thought I was cool without the lies. From that day forward the lying slowly died out and today it's almost non-existent apart from the odd little white lie we all tell once in a blue moon.
6 likesThose stories are paper-thin and sound lame as hell.
1 like@Zzz S Yeah, when he said he was going to go to her house to talk to her parents we asked him why bother, and he said there's other three dudes out there thinking they just found the love of their lives and he needed to do something for them and for her to seek help. He went to her house and his roomate (the one that found the msn logs) actually contacted them vía msn and explained the whole ordeal to them. Very very awkward situation overall.
0 likesI was believing everything she was saying until the guy said that non of these ppl exist.
2 likes@#Anton #FIN who hurt you 💀
0 likesABSOLUTELY!!!!
1 like@Amphibeing McShpongletron lmaoo
1 like@Luke Sargent an occasional lie is okay? you sound like a citizen bro, not it isn't a problem, yes it is a talent though not a positive one, t lie on the spot so quickly an convincingly means the right side of your min (creative, on the spot thinking) is more than healthy. Where the problems lie is when people started using that for bad, then claim poor mental health when they knew what they was doing.
1 likeand then manages to MEMORIZE their storylines
2 likesSound like my baby daddy 💯
0 likesBut what reason she killed her daughter
0 likes@Michi I wouldn't brag about that
1 like@Marcin Widz I couldn't stop having flashbacks of my ex who had the very same story as your ex. What did you learn from this relationship and didn't you notice the same traits in the next partner?
0 likesMost people would stutter their words trying to fake a name. She doesn’t. That is some scary stuff.
0 likesShe could be an incredible writer and storyteller
0 likesI'm a pathological liar. It comes surprisingly easy. I'm trying to get better to make sure I don't hurt anyone with my lies. I don't know if this was the same case with Casey, but I lie casually in everyday life, even when I don't need to. It becomes a reflex after some time.
0 likesI worked with one of the jurors for many years. We were in Tampa, that's where jury was pulled from. He told me that very quickly all the jurors agreed something bad had happened, but all agreed they did not know what? In addition, part of the judges instruction for Murder 1 stated a cause of death of homicide was mandatory, the prosecution NEVER proved a cause of death, many theories but no cause. Without a cause of death, defense never had to mount a case, it was over when prosecution rested. His opinion, they overcharged her with what they could prove.
0 likesIt means she was of sound mind whenever she killed her daughter/had someone kill her. Which is beyond fucking terrifying and sickening. I can't even stand looking at pictures of this woman because she just gives me the creeps.
4 likesHow could the jury have let her go free? Amazing…
1 likeWhen talking to her parents, she said "(I am really grateful) that she's had both of you as grandparents" and then corrected to "she has both of you as grandparents"
1 likeIsn't that insinuating that she knows her child is no more....
The fact that her best friend Christine on the phone sounded more like a mother really suffering, beggin for answers about the little girl, is heartbreaking... i feel so sorry for her...
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When she said, "wow this is a waste" when her best friend is saying "if anything happened to that little girl I'm going to die!" I honestly lost my mind. How can any mother respond like that about their own little girl?
365 likesYep. Horrible. The friend cared more about that little girl than her own mother.
119 likes@Shadow my conclusion, she's just the most selfish manipulative careless human I've ever seen.
51 likes@Commander Ponds CC-411
39 likesI don't believe she's human at all! In fact, I have no words to adequately describe my intense hatred for Casey Anthony.
29:52 "Caylee HAS BEEN so lucky " then she corrects herself
15 likesGive pet to a kid, if the pet died, dont let them married or have a kid, don't let them only until they can take care of their pet properly.
6 likes@Haze The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
1 like@PrometheusV you mean the way children have always been?
0 likes@monarchyofclowns ahhh someone recognized the quote :)
0 likes@little ghost let me tell you when I say my JAW dropped when they said her father had sexually abused her.
2 likesGirl drowned in a pool, okay. To go 31 days, just living up life at bars, smoking weed ETC. Then you get questioned, lie about almost everything multiple times...Odd internet search history...and get found guilty on absolutely nothing? That's amazing
1 likeI’m very interested to know why she wasn’t re-tried with the charges tampering with a body and criminal obstruction of justice
0 likeshard to believe Mr. Anthony was once a cop.. Funny she gave the nanny the name of Zanny , the street name for Xanax. GHB was huge in the club scene back then ( ask me how I know?). i know they checked for chloroform but i wonder if they ever considered GHB -something about that Tony guy that that gives me bad vibes
2 likesDefence lawyers are better liars then Casey! What a world we live in!
2 likesI still can't believe a jury let her off. She has really never been held accountable for anything.
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The prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
152 likesShe was convicted only of that which she was guilty.
8 likesThe jurors that have come out and spoken have had the general consensus if they went based on feelings, extremely guilty. But, the evidence wasn’t presented to vote guilty on the charges given.
41 likesPays to be pretty
65 likes@MystiKasT Bingo. That's why she walked. Overzealous prosecutors screwed up.
13 likes@MystiKasT , there have been cases before where they were convicted and have stayed that way. No.. The jury went in there looking for any reason to let the "tight bodied hot mess" off as much as what you are saying. There is even a highly decorated ex-Marine serving life on less than what this prosecution had... in one of the worst states to convict someone without a body as well.. Virginia. Simple truth.. that jury wanted to let her get away with murder, and they will be held accountable for it eventually too. if they aren't already by people who know them.
21 likes@Jill Pearson News flash right there.
4 likes@Tee Ohbee Crazy...I think this would have been a good case to go with their feelings. The smell from her car is enough in my opinion...
21 likesI watched this trial. Jose Baetz is a badass defense attorney. He was able to establish doubt in the jurors minds. You must convict beyond reasonable doubt. And that was part of the reason why the jury found her not guilty.
29 likesThey simply had no evidence
4 likesThat's life's easy mode for you
6 likes@David C Bad parenting is bad, but it's not a crime. "My parents raised me wrong" is not a valid defense. You can't just pass the blame onto your parents for your own egregious acts. The only reason the parents would be held accountable is if they had direct knowledge of her acts and neglected to report it, and in some states even that is not a punishable offense.
18 likes@MystiKasT That's absolute nonsense. The duct tape and search history combined are undeniable evidence of premeditation with the intent to kill. You don't search for a way to suffocate someone merely to cause them harm, let alone "FOOLPROOF" suffocation, and use of duct tape contradicts a crime of passion done in the heat of the moment, if indeed such a crime can even be committed against a 3 year old. She wasn't strangled, she was suffocated which is a passive act that takes time. 1st degree murder was a completely reasonable charge. The failure lies with the jury.
25 likes@Lord Maliscence Moreover, in most cases the type of childhood trauma/neglect/coddling (etc) which causes a person to develop these personality flaws is rarely similar to said flaws. In other words, you don't usually get a cold-hearted, selfish, neglectful person like Casey from a cold-hearted, selfish, neglectful parent. Rather, Casey cares only for herself because she was raised in a way that re-affirms her importance over all others. Make no mistake, an over-nurtured, coddled, you-do-no-wrong environment can be just as toxic for development as one of neglect. But that's less obvious to people, and the idea of it being a crime is laughable.
10 likesI mean, we've only really scratched the surface of this kind of psychology in the past few decades, and the VASTLY overwhelming majority of the population are suffering though unhealthy cycles from unresolved childhood experiences, without even an inkling that it's happening. Good, well-intentioned parents fuck up their children all the time. If not understanding that is a crime, we should probably all be in jail.
@David C sorry, I read your comment wrong. I thought you said they should also be charged.
2 likes@Great Minds101 What about internet searches? suffocation? foolproof suffocation?
1 like@Great Minds101 I TOTALLY AGREE!!!! THATS ALL I WOULD HAVE NEEDED!!!!
0 likes@Xen ARE YOU KIDDING????
0 likes@Jill Pearson Ha! Ain't that the truth... Preach !!!!
0 likesShe wasnt overcharged, plenty of evidence, especially with the computer searches about which the mother lied on the stand, and the duct tape. Like they lied about the abuse. the jury simply did not want to convict her, because she would likely get the death penalty. That is also why parents lied for her. Death penalty is bad for justice, makes people do stupid shit and doubt when it is completely UNREASONABLE.
6 likes@Eshajori Circumstantial evidence at best.
0 likes@Eshajori Well put!
0 likes@Eren Jaeger Probably not evil as much as self-absorbed; some to the point of detriment to the common man. Hence, laws.
0 likes@Eren Jaeger including yourself
1 likeIt’s baffling how they found her not guilty, and even more baffling how they sleep at night after making that decision
3 likes@American Banana REASONABLE… there was nothing reasonable that could prove her as an innocent party at all.
3 likes@Paddy They could not find her guilty BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Everything presented was circumstantial.
0 likes@Tucsonan Dude Those 2 things are not related, but go off girl
0 likesShe's lucky, she's a woman. If it were a man, that's life for him
1 like@Krazy Reckz 100% and with less evidence too
2 likesIt’s just insane. This case is infuriating.
1 likeI reckon this one was a close enough call to put some fear in her though.
0 likes@Greg Rickard oh yeah phew, she'll think twice before killing her next child... wtf is this comment
1 like@Paddy perception not a strong point?
0 likesShe infact seems to take her all decisions crazily-wrong and Immoral the whole life.
1 like@Rick Peluso She had a good lawyer.
0 likes@JAMBERRY, what is most incredible, though, is that you don't care one bit she so blatantly displayed Dark Triad personality behavior (which killers always display), and go for the "you're a racist capitalism male scumbag" vitriol.. with no real argument at all.
0 likes@JAMBERRY , actually, the fact she so actively conceal her daughter's being dead, how she totally deceived her family and law enforcement.. right down to a rehearsed story trying to blame a "immigrant woman" (since you HAD to bring "racism" into this....) says otherwise.
0 likesAgain, all offense, there are many people who are justly in prison on less evidence than was in this case. The very arguments you are making (about feelings) are the only reason she is a free woman. That jury had no reason whatsoever to give her that much benefit of the doubt.
Also, all offense again, there are many times that the Innocence Project has also abandoned cases when they learn the person is really guilty... those just don't make for good sound bites. You only hear what you want. because you need to believe in the "evils of" our justice system. I get it: we are all scum and deserve to die according to you We get it. You didn't get "Fair in your favor" in life. Sorry that is how the world works, but stop blaming one country. Stop making all Americans "great Satans" against the ideology you falsely believe will "save the world". It isn't going to happen. A great big "collective hug" and "trusting in the better nature of man" is a lie.
You believe in an altruism that doesn't exist. I see humans for what we are: incapable of being good without a system to bring the hammer down when it is deserved. Most of those "innocent" people are in no ways "totally innocent". Some are.. but most of the time.. they either end up in prison for things they did and didn't get caught doing,, or as amplification for things they did and up to that point got slapped on the wrist for. You far out people call that "karma", don't you? There is room for forgiveness.. but not forgetting.. and people like you think that even cold blooded killers should "get away with it" if a jury "just doesn't feel it is true".
You put a lot of hyperbole into your words.. but facts tell a different story. You want to get away with something yourself.. so you cheer from the side lines hoping you will get off like she did.. and we both know it.
She's a (physically) beautiful, generally pleasant women. I'm not surprised at all.
0 likes@Eshajori naw man, abused kids are more likely to be Borderline Personally, Sociopath, etc, than non abused kids.
0 likesBeing spoiled to Casey's degree isn't much better...
@David C highly disagree with your opinion. We've all been kids. My parents did everything they could to try and raise me right. In the end my stubborn ass just didn't care and I always just did whatever I WANTED TO DO. despite all the teaching they gave me. Granted I didn't grow up to kill anyone so they're parenting must have worked atleast a little. My point is it doesn't matter how much of a good Job parents do raising thier kids...it helps but doesn't mean that kid will grow up an angle. That's on the kid not on the parents. Parents can show you the path but it's up to the kid to decide which path he/she will take.
0 likesThe jury looked just like her. Nothing to be surprised about.
0 likesWell she could not be proven guilty BEYOND a reasonable doubt so the jury did right. Who else than she could know what actually happened. She could have just accidentally killed her or due to neglience and it's pretty normal for people to cover up their fuckups. Well normal people probably wouldn't cover up their fuckup if it causes their own kid's death but since she didn't give a shit about her child this could very well be the case. Murder charge in a situation like this is way too risky with so little evidence and a major fuckup from the prosecution.
0 likesWow, she sure suddenly had a lot of emotion to show once nobody bought her lies and she was called out.
1 likeIt’s mind blowing that she got away with this. I’ve seen people with FAR less evidence get convinced
3 likesAnd she still got away with it. Absolutely insane. I hate that I watched this
2 likesIf this ruins her life and haunts her forever, it’s the least she deserves. She is guilty as fck.
1 likeIf she didn’t kill Caylee herself, she is still the gateway to ultimate discovery. It is deplorable and shocking to see her walk free.
This was one of the biggest miscarriage of justice in years. That jury is nuts.
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Unfortunately it happens all the time. It's just that the vast majority of cases doesn't get any media attention.
48 likesThat defense attorney emotionally manipulated them. It was a calculated defense and I have little doubt that he knew the jury he was playing to.
95 likesThat bitch murdered her daughter and then went partying. The only tears she shed were for herself and the possible threat to her future.
I hope she doesn't sleep a single night the rest of her life but, considering the monster she is, I won't hold my breath on that.
@Ultimomos I totally agree
4 likes@l c hey so I just wanted to ask if this case is really over?! Like wtf are you sure we can’t do nothing about this! This lady should be locked up man
12 likes@Loot plug she was found not guilty. She is living free.
6 likes@luuk v It does not happen all the time. Look, this shit happens, and in this case and the OJ Simpson trial, they both should've been locked up for life, and I'm sure it does happen outside of big, broadcasted cases such as these, but to claim that the system is just leaking guilty people back out onto the streets all the time is a gross exaggeration. Not to mention, our justice system is set up the way it is to mitigate the potential of sending innocent people away for crimes they didn't commit, and to keep from exposing them to the trauma/horror of prison, and potentially creating more criminals when they get out of prison/jail. To quote William Blackstone: "It is better to let ten guilty people go free than to let one innocent person suffer wrongful conviction" (this is paraphrasing, obviously, but it still gets the idea across)
13 likes@Noman I’m finna pull up to her and give her what she deserves lol
13 likes1. she is a woman. 2. reasonable doubt. You can know someone is guilty but that is not proof. Reality is and always has been stranger than fiction.
15 likesOJ’s was worse
3 likesWell, the next time you get a jury notification do the right thing and serve. It is so easy to cast blame, yet people look down on the process. It's a civic responsibility. I did my time and while I wouldn't volunteer for it again, I took what I had to do very seriously.
4 likes@Daniel Schneider Pretty much what you said. The prosecution was entirely to blame in this case, it's not that "our justice system is flawed bruh it needs reformed so cases like this don't happen anymore." More like our prosecutors need to be better trained and more equipped for gathering the proper evidence to utilize against the accused. People are so quick to cast blame on our justice system, but then forget that that same justice system also put nutjobs like Chris Watts, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Jodi Arias, Jeffrey Dahmer, etc. away. A vast majority of the time in cases like this, the prosecution does an excellent job of presenting the evidence and a solid case against the person that cements their guilt. They just failed in this case. And because of that, a 95% more than likely guilty person gets to walk free and not be tried for this crime again.
7 likesBut of course. As Gervais always said, let's stop asking the general public their opinion. Why in the world a verdict shouldn't be a technical work.
1 likeSadly, Caylee did not receive justice in this case, but this was not the jury's fault, it was the prosecution's. They went after a first-degree murder conviction, but there just wasn't enough evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in court. They made the rookie mistake of over-charging beyond what they could reasonably prove, and the defendant walked away scott-free. Had they pursued a less serious charge of second-degree murder or negligent homicide, they may have gotten a conviction.
8 likesVery sad that this happened.
that's florida bestie
0 likesThe jury wasn’t nuts, the defence attorney had them by the balls & the prosecution messed up. They should’ve tried to convict her on a charge that they could prove beyond reasonable doubt, such as negligent homicide. Casey’s blatant disregard for her daughter’s life in every aspect of this case would have been enough to prove negligence & the duct tape found on her corpse could been used to prove homicide. As much as I hate the outcome of the case, he did a fantastic job. Also once you realize law isn’t actually about justice & is simply a game of loopholes, it’ll make more sense to you. For the record I think Casey did it.
4 likesI'm not quite sure how to feel about this defense lawyer. I have a lot of respect for the profession in general; it takes a brave person to defend someone you know is guilty.
4 likesBut basing your case entirely on the emotional appeals of a pathological liar? The pool narrative? The abuse narrative? Ad hominem against the State? He did a bang-up job, gosh darnit, but I feel like that went beyond his duty to uphold truth and justice.
@Innertuber40 according to his book, all of that was a shot in the dark to garner sympathy for Casey. He knew about the firefox search history that showed she was looking for ways on strangulation. The defense was waiting for prosecutors to present it.
3 likes@Loot plug Let's go! I'm with you!
0 likesThe problem is the defense is all like this is an innocent woman when in reality she is still prime suspect and guilty of murder of her daughter but there was (arguably)not enough evidence to convict her.
0 likesThe trial lasted for months. You have seen a cut compilation of about 1 hour. You have no idea what happened and you cannot claim you do.
0 likes@Kimmy Gibler I mean they are too stupid to get out of jury duty so...
0 likesONLY IN FLORIDA! 🤦♂️
1 likeA poor choice of words.
0 likesI'll never understand trail by jury.
0 likes@Toekaan ... Because not everyone brought to trial is so obviously guilty, and the only people who will ever know the 100% truth (including intentions) are the parties involved? We have a jury as an attempt at an objective perspective of the given events. It just doesn't always work out. That's no reason to go all Judge Dread though, tough guy.
0 likes@Daniel Schneider Yes, you explain it well. Just to add... Don't blame the defence lawyers, they were also doing their job. They made their statements and asked their questions in the court. If their conduct is not acceptable, the judge and the prosecution should have objected. The defence don't need to prove nor believe that the defendant is innocent. Their job is only to raise reasonable doubt in the minds of 12 people. Our justice system errs on both sides, there are plenty of innocent people in the prisons too. If we don't want guilty people to walk free, we have to reduce the burden of proof, which means also more innocent people will end up in prisons.
0 likesThe prosecution failed.
0 likesIt’s heartbreaking how everyone but the mother was worried about the baby.
3 likes23:39 even her best friend cared more about her than the mother.
And the grandmother was more panicked when calling the police
When she's talking to her mom through the video thing is fantastic. "You dont have to look at the camera, look at me" is some boomer shit. Watching her get annoyed with her mom not understanding how the camera works, rather than being upset about her daughter, makes it so obvious. She could have at least tried to look innocent.
0 likesI remembered when I used to hear guys talk about how hot she was. It made me sick that they could be turned on by someone who murdered her child & tried to cover it up like a true psychopath.
1 likeI can’t believe I spent 1 hour to end up pissed as fuck. This whole case is ridiculous, unbelievable. I’m disgusted.
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I am now more than half way through an knowng she goes free is infuriating.
1314 likesThanks to the comment section I saved a lot of time and disappointment...
766 likesYes indeed I feel the same way
63 likesSame 😡
51 likesWAIT WTF SHES FREE?!
328 likesRabbi, I watched this trial in real time.
62 likesLike did they not see the search history ...mean while we have people sitting in jail for 15+ years over some weed .....
566 likesYou guys know this massively nationally televised case happened 10 years ago? I don't think the no spoilers rule applies, lol.. And yeah, we are all disgusted by her. : /
287 likesIf I ever murder someone, I'm hiring this lawyer HANDS DOWN. He is awfully good at the awful thing he did, but man... those results.
169 likes@Lone W lack of physical evidence
8 likes@Andie Crayons totally I am shocked people aren’t familiar with this case..?!
40 likes@Growing with Anastasia Same!
3 likesI feel the same.... I was like she is ending up in jail...n now she is free dam... What system is this
20 likesGod bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
15 likes@Lone W God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
6 likes@olivia grace wtf?
106 likesThese videos will do that to a morally sound person.
8 likesShe got the best lawyer in the world. Plus the media being biased against her made people think that she was being treated unfairly. It's like a "Donald Trump effect."
76 likesWhen the mass media starts assassinating someone's character everyday people see that as unfair and take that someone's side. Had the media kept quiet, surely she would be condemned as guilty.
@hohoho hehehe Maybe don't read comments and replies before you finish a video.
26 likes@Bag Tv pro tip: don’t sell pounds of weed and run around with toy guns
4 likesOr are you gonna tell me someone’s sitting in jail for a joint and a dime bag? Get your fake talking points outta here
I remember hearing this verdict and being in such disbelief. This was a bigger botch than the OJ and Nicole Simpson case
39 likes@Shrek 5ever Except Donald Trump isn't guilty of anything, so that fails as a comparison.
28 likes@Bag Tv They weren't able to connect the search history with her and with the death of her little girl.
7 likes@Puchowska he was the worst president tho lol
37 likesThis is so obviously that she is guilty. WTF?!
15 likes@Saira _ Isnt she not only free, but a protected citizen under the witness protection program?
10 likessaaaaaaameeeee
0 likes@Puchowska I didn't said he was. I said that the effect, to me, seems similar.
4 likesWhen the mass media picks a side, or starts demonizing a person, most folks smell the bullshit and stand opposite to it.
I remember 2016, the mass media called trump every name under the sun and he still won.
Thanks for the warning. Stopped watching because else I would go insane knowing she wasn't punished.
9 likes@Shrek 5ever actually the jury hated Casey, too. they thought she was a disgusting person and a terrible mother, but they said they simply could not say "beyond a reasonable doubt"
13 likes@DubHead fuck im 55 minutes in and decided to scroll down to comments now
6 likes@el SunShine The only lack of evidence was the fact that no DNA or print tests were done to the tape on the dead child's head. So if she was innocent(unlikely) does that mean a sadistic killer is out there somewhere?
16 likesMy long experience of life has taught me one thing ,the game of Courts is played by those with the most money ,those who can buy their innocence and a determination of innocence has nothing to do with the the guilt of the defendant.
LOL!
0 likesI like these clips but I’m a parent and I don’t like watching the ones where the kids suffer I just can’t watch it it’s to sad
2 likesWelcome to Democrat Party's America.
5 likesMe too was a waste!! Thats some bullshit she killed her daughter no doubt!
5 likesI know. I ended up watching the trial, all police interviews of all folks interviewed etc. I spent weeks on it and I am just as angry as I was to start with lol
5 likes@Puchowska they both “arent guilty of anything” as per the court and Trump’s denial of trials for what he’s been accused of. so how is it failed?
0 likesThink about those people who have been following this case for 3 years.
2 likessame!!! im so mad rn omfg
1 like@hohoho hehehe you opened the comments, that’s on u
1 likeJoin the club.
0 likessame 😕
0 likesRight!!!! 😡😡😡
1 likeI think the interrogators messed up. They got so pissed by her lying that they didn't setup a thing to get a confession like they do in the other videos
22 likes@Growing with Anastasia I was 8
0 likesFr
0 likes@Novascotia Skater Neither is relevant. They convict based on the evidence. There was no evidence of murder, so they didn't convict her of murder. They did their job as they were supposed to.
1 like@Bag Tv The only people sitting in jail for that long over "some weed" are lifetime drug dealers who sell destruction to families and communities. It costs nothing to not be a drug dealer and nobody is going to prison for 15 years for smoking a joint.
2 likes@Ri-Mix Da Original lol what
1 likeI feel you homie
0 likesI’ve never been this pissed as well watching a damn YouTube video. Fucking horrible, rip Caylee
10 likes@Brandon Smith you should probably get out more
0 likes@MisterBread009 maybe. But I was joking. Smart arse
0 likes@hohoho hehehe how could you complain about spoilers when you deliberately came into the comments and read them before finishing the video??
3 likesexactly how I felt
0 likes@hohoho hehehe How could I have known you were joking? I can't hear your tone and intent through my computer screen.
0 likesSame
0 likes@Brandon Smith really that’s so cool
0 likesIch auch!!!
0 likesme too man ;(
0 likesEXACTLY THIS WOMAN IS EVIL! Her actions were callous and calculated and she demonstrated time and time again she could care less about her own friends or more importantly her very own family. She openly murdered her daughter, expressed satisfaction in doing so, proved she is manipulative and disingenuous to everyone around her, and got away with her. I looked her up because I was so mad and apparently she lives somewhere in west palm beach and people who recognize her throw drinks at her still.
9 likesMy thoughts exactly. No words can describe how horrified I am that this disgusting despicable excuse of a human being got let off on all accounts.
7 likesAmen brother... same feeling... angry af...
0 likes@Bag Tv make me angry af... this would be a goid reason for rioting...
4 likesWtf is wring with this women and this justice system...
@Lone W wtf... wrong place, wrong time of tbis troll
0 likesYeah welcome to the club. Been disgusted for 13 years.
1 likeWait... How did you not know before watching this?
0 likesThis comment saved me 40 minutes
0 likesWait none of you really recall this being live many many years ago none of you were following this treachery and massive twist ending in real life??!!;
1 likeLITERALLY
0 likes@Growing with Anastasia some people just don't fall into the media hoopla and follow things, I never gave a crap about it and watched this video and I'm beyond pissed and confused
3 likesGod bless america
0 likesOne hour? Bro the people who followed this case spent months praying she would be found guilty. I know I was glued to my phone waiting for a guilty verdict. Bitch got off free and I was PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!
6 likes@olivia grace what in God's forsaken name is wrong with you?
0 likes@the apple kingdom god bless America
0 likesJust finished it and I feel the exact same way..
0 likesR.I.P
0 likes@MisterBread009 well, I must have forgotten to look into my crystal ball to find out what the future was going to bring me.
0 likes@Pjbearsfan gay
0 likes@MisterBread009 my name should give it away that I'm only on here for a bit of a laugh, but fair enough, point taken.
0 likes@hohoho hehehe Oh ok lol. Thanks for not just getting all salty and defensive like other people probably would
0 likesJust shows us how shitty the justice system is in our country.
0 likesThis is why I drink and smoke 2 packs a day.
0 likesThis is why I read the comments
1 likeits just a child
0 likesYeah but that's the beauty (disgust) of our justice system there has to be evidence and they jumped the gun on this one and she got away. Also our jury is actually taking it seriously now. When the Lawyers know it's a game.
0 likesNot gonna lie, after about 20 minutes, i was like "this bitch is deplorable and guilty as fuck" so skipped to the end. Glad i saved myself some time, at least.
0 likes@Growing with Anastasia not american xD
0 likesI mean if you think about it... Sure she acted really weird and lied about a lot of things. But there was no actual proof that she had killed her daughter. So in a way, I respect the judge's decision even though I probably wouldn't think that way myself if I was the judge. I just appreciate that we have people who can make objective decisions.
0 likes@Lone W hahaha. yup.
0 likesSame I could not belive it. According to Google she is still living in Florida and in an interview in 2019 she apparently wants to have another kid. I really hope she does not have another child. This made me so mad.
3 likesI remember when the news reported she was looking into adoption and I was sick to my stomach. Even if no agency would match her the very thought is disgusting.
4 likesWatch your language
0 likesyeah im 25 minutes in and im stopping for that reason. as it kept going i knew this would only end with me being angry and upset and i didnt want that. so sad
1 likeAgree.
0 likesShes writing a book and movie.... We gotta do something
0 likes@Kryzs Kornhell Didnt her lawyer say that her daughter drowned in the pool ? If so shouldn't she at least be found guilty of neglect ? And if that is the case it would still be her fault that her daughter's dead.
1 like@Marko Bighead Evidence or not it doesn't mean she's not really guilty. Besides she told her lawyer that her daughter drowned in the pool so why hasn't she been charged with negligence. And if that was really what happened then it's still her fault her daughter is dead.
1 like@Love To Be Here Sure, but courts don't work on "well we have no evidence but she, like, is just so totally obviously guilty, man". Courts exist to dole out sentencing based on the evidence. No evidence, no sentence.
0 likesIf that's true, her daughter could've gotten into the pool for any number of reasons. Not every accidental child death is due to negligence, therefore this would still be circumstantial without any other details regarding the death.
Not to mention, even documented negligence often goes unpunished, usually for no reason other than pure emotion. It's very obvious that any way you slice it, the McCanns are responsible for Madeleine McCann's death through intent or sheer negligence, but since the former hasn't been proven and the latter is ignored just because of their crocodile tears, they have become millionaires thanks to their dead child even though it is a documented fact that their child disappeared or died through negligence in the absolute best case scenario.
Casey Anthony is disgusting and ridiculous as a so called mother and the jury was dumb enough to believe the BS story her and her lawyer made up to get her off when she is as guilty as hell. No mother would lie and allow their child to go missing for a month and not call the police unless they knew the child was dead and she was the one who killed her.
2 likesThat’s how we all felt while watching the story unfold. I knew she was guilty on day 1. The fact they didn’t find her guilty was shocking.
3 likesYes
0 likesapparently people are throwing drinks in her face at a local bar LAWL
0 likesMe too broh ....that sucks
0 likesHa, I literally just said the exact same thing.
0 likes@el SunShine and the prosecution shouldn’t have went for the death penalty when they couldn’t say how or where she died- they offered chloroform and the tape as different options but…🤷🏻♀️
0 likesI am beyond disgusted :(
0 likesyou guys didnt know that before watching? this case was huge all over the news in the entire countru
0 likesfirst time, huh? 🤣
1 likeThe special on Hulu where they cover this case is just as upsetting, if not more. The justice system is so broken.
0 likesSame here! I almost end up crying for the poor kid
1 like@Susanne Collins I don't know anything about anything but this makes a lot of sense. I know the burden of evidence has to be the same for a death sentence as it is for a life sentence, but I just know that me personally, I'd not be able to convict someone to death unless I absolutely knew for a fact they did this heinous crime. I feel pretty strongly that she did it. Idk if I feel strongly enough to be the one signing her death warrant. I'd send her to prison for life tho—if I'm wrong they'll appeal it and it'll come out at some point. But I know that's fallacious and the bar must be the same.
1 likeThat’s a good summary for every case on this channel and how I myself are left feeling.
0 likes@Saira _ thanks for the heads up. I’m hooked in now and have to finish. Even though I’ll spend the rest of the day wound up. Just hope she gets her comeuppance one day. 🇬🇧
1 likeThat's what you get with a ridiculous system such as jury trial in place. The side whose lawyer is the better liar and manipulator wins
2 likesYes it's disgusting but completely fascinating and unbelievable.
1 like@Novascotia Skater It did. So whatever they planned worked.
0 likes@Growing with Anastasia Me too. This was a top news story for years! Are these people living under a rock?
1 likeI'm so mad 😭😭😭
0 likesikr f that murder
0 likesI’m crying my eyes out
0 likesimagine how it felt seeing the case unfold live and the majority of america knowing shes guilty and then the jury saying not guilty. the jury even got death threats for it
0 likes@Puchowska And here we go.
0 likes@Bag Tv If it's 15+ years I doubt it was just "some weed".
0 likesI know all about this case and still watched it. I wanna do so much damage to her it’s crazy. I still can’t believe she got away with this when there are people sitting in prison who are innocent snd was convicted with WAY less evidence!
0 likes@Puchowska She attended a rally to protest Trump, go figure.
1 likeI’m right here with you…. So pissed
0 likesPeople already forgot about her? When I was in school she was everywhere
0 likesYou saved me 1 hour thank you
0 likesNO LITERALLY IM FYCKING RAGING
0 likesIts more than frustrating. Because they couldn't get enough evidence to jail her. And they knew full well she had an involvement in it.
1 likeYou forget that not everyone is fron the US
0 likesSame bro same. I am literally crying like wtf
0 likesReally? Now I don't want finish this video anymore
0 likes@Azel Joy Portugues Just watch it. It shows how many loopholes are there in the justice system.
0 likes@Saksham she's that kind of a cold-blooded killer who will soon murder her parents and then again like in this case gets away with it.
0 likesFeeling exactly the same.
0 likesSame bro
0 likessame! I am baffled..
0 likesthats whybi read comments first
0 likessame brother, one hour and pissed as fucked.
0 likesIt was HER baby , she made it . SHe was free to do as she pleased.
0 likesdefinitely shouldve read the comments
0 likeswow ..that was insane verdict.
0 likes@Novascotia Skater it worked tho
0 likes@Bag Tv i love this argument so much, 15 years over some weed! Without mentioning it was "some" kilograms, with the intention to distribute, in an US state with 3 strike laws while the convicted was already sentenced twice for drug dealing...
0 likesBUT MUH 15 YEARS FOR WHEAT
Literally I’m disgusted
0 likesSameee😡😡
0 likesNow i don’t want to watch it anymore :(( ugh!
0 likesI can't believe myself too
0 likesfantastic example that women can get away with anything in court
0 likes@Ukraino TV You sound obsessed and afraid of people affiliated with a particular political party in the United States. Please seek help with a mental health professional in your area or online as soon as possible. Cult behavior always leads to violence..
1 like@Andie Crayons They're making me feel ancient. I'm less than 3 years younger than Casey so I was an adult too. I remember this case blasted everywhere. There was nothing so widely publicized since Jon Bennet (and I was a kid for that one ).
0 likesYesssss you're right
0 likes@Bag Tv If it has been someone of color or someone poor or unattractive she would be in jail. It’s really unfair.
0 likes😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬
0 likesI literally can't sleep now.
0 likesThis just shows how a good attorney can get you to escape even the most evil deeds.
1 like@Growing with Anastasia Same… I was at most a teenager when this happened with no interest in true crime and I heard of it. It was the most controversial case at the time.
1 like@Marko Bighead Weed isn’t gonna cause destruction of anything… it’s weed.
0 likes@DeathnoteBB you’d have to be like Amish or something to have missed this
0 likesOy gevalt Schlomo! I nearly spat out my matzo brei when the jury gave their verdict. Patooie!
0 likesI made it up to 56:25 and realized she was going to walk free. genuinely can't watch anymore. i'm horrified at the world and especially at the american justice system.
0 likesMe too.
0 likes@olivia grace im muslim
0 likes@Mercmad there´s no other killer out there. They admited, they wittnesed the child´s death in the pool. So she basicaly confessed she put her child´s body in that swamp..I believe that duct tape should be key evidence, there is no reason to choke dead body.
0 likesI’m 13 minutes in and I’m already horrified. I’m scared to watch the full thing
0 likesI feel like the only reason Caylee is dead right now, is that Casey was used to being the center of everyones attention, and suddendly she wasn't. So she took out the competition, aka her daughter.
2 likesEdit after rewatching this again: How badly was her body decomposed? it says skeletal remains, so I'm guessing really badly. Could rape still be visible? if it's just bone, I don't think so but if there was any organic material left. Casey was at her boyfriends house, on drugs, atleast weed. Casey is the last person to see her alive, and I understood that she went to His boyfriends, since they were filmed together soon after. But what if it was Her boyfriend who sexually assaulted Caylee and killed Her? Ducktape on the mouth and nose to keep her from screaming and thus dying? Casey isn't right in the head, but I don't know enough to know if this possibility was investigated, since everyone jumped on Casey being responsible (she still is, but to what), which is understandable. But if she was at the boyfriends house this whole time, it's a possibility as well. The proof of that is impossible to get if the assault didn't break any bones and She was just skeletal remains when they found Caylee, and no semen or anything else present in the blanket or laudry bag. It seems like she was naked, in a blanket inside a laundry bag. That would also point towards sexual abuse. The decaying smell and hair (according to wikipedia) found in Caseys car would make sense, if they / he used her car to get rid of the body.
Just speculation and having read multiple cases from all around the world, I would not be surprised. young people, on drugs (even alcohol or weed, not necessarily meth or anything), who knows what they can do. If Casey was just dumbly in love with the guy and didn't want to get Him in trouble by telling on him?
this is not a case about how casey killed her daughter and how she’s sick, this is a case about how anyone can manipulate anyone by words.
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@Cartswhat I Q
1 likeOmar. Bingo. Your exactly right.
2 likesAnd it’s a case of a flawed system. With enough manipulation and charisma of the attorney and the jury (WHICH COULD BE ANYONE. EVEN WITHOUT HIGH EDUCATION or knowledge in law and criminology whatsoever!!!) can decide the future of someone. Whether innocent or guilty. In this case, a guilty cold bitch
30 likesSick? I don't think I'd use that word. Unless it's in the 'disgust' sense, like - 'omigod, that's so sick!'
1 like@Cartswhat Maybe some of the most dominant persons in the jury were strongly anti death penalty, so they would have said "not guilty" even if she had cut the neck of her daughter on live video and bragged about it... and then they managed to convince the rest...
3 likesAnd looks :(
0 likes@Cartswhat I swear many people are easy manipulated, and have almost no reasoning or free-thinking skills. I hope I never have to be judged by a jury.
7 likesDidnt manipulate me 🤷♀️
0 likesA person who lies about everything, compulsively, starts to believe it's all true. As in playing a character.
2 likesIts crazy. Makes me understand the trump phenomenon better. Humans are easily manipulated and its scary
2 likes@Eric Yglesias lol makes me understand trump derangement syndrome better
5 likesExactly. Anyone good with words can manipulate the world. Reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes. She manipulated the whole world including the big ppl up top with high education and wealth.
2 likes#Justice4Caylee
0 likesThis plays almost like the OJ trial. The only difference is that as time went on, his son had a lot of evidence (circumstantial or otherwise) against him as well. I doubt anyone but Casey will ever know the full truth on this one.
0 likesNever will understand how she got away with this
2 likesRe-watching this after the Amber heard case, and I see a lot of similarities.
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Really dude? That’s a bit of a stretch. Amber Heard is an asshole but she is not completely evil like this woman
4 likesAt first I think, I feel so bad for her parents. I couldn’t imagine having my daughter and grand daughter living with me for 2 years, then all of a sudden my granddaughter is just gone, missing. When he said the house is empty without them, and I feel the pain. But, but, then I realize they have let their daughter get away with so much all her life. From dropping out of high school senior year while living at home, to o mainly not taking their granddaughter whenever Casey can’t watch her,then to letting 30 days go without asking. They are guilty as bad parents, Casey must’ve felt they weren’t welcome, why didn’t they offer to adopt? And now they give all this care, where was that care when Casey w was out partying and avoiding her daughter to the neglect area
0 likesThe fact that the best friend was crying and breaking down while Casey is getting annoyed breaks my heart
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She is emotionless. She was a spoiled child, that thought that she will get anything she wants by any means, and she did. That is the frustrating part, a beautiful child was killed and she get away with that.
244 likes@Madalina P.Vilcu uuuu
4 likes@Madalina P.Vilcu uuuu
2 likes@Madalina P.Vilcu exactly, and it makes me sick that the judges let her get away with it. She's literally if Ted Bundy was successful
40 likes@Madalina P.Vilcu How do you know she was a ''spoiled child''? You just can't know it and can't trash her parents with no knowledge
5 likes@Yevgeniya Leshchenko When you give your child a graduation party, but you know clearly that she has been expelled due to absences, this is called spoiling the child.
75 likesDo not get me wrong! I have a little girl of almost 3 years old, for whom I would give my life, I would sell my soul to the devil so that she would be good, But .... I know how to put a barrier to her when she crosses the line between innocence spoiling and wickedness, I know how to give her love, respect, good values and morals. 🙏
Staged bullshit. Casey is Allanis Morrisette.
6 likesShe reminds me of jodie arias
1 like@Earl Sciambra Jr. they only vaguely look alike
1 likethat itself should be a crime
0 likesShe takes xanax, Thats why she behaves like that. I have theory that when she was taking on the case she would take xanax. And xanax if abused describes her personality flawlessly.
3 likesI myself take Xanax and when I abuse it I become just like her. Calm, Arrogant, Not giving fuck, Feeling invincible. People who abuse xanax or benzodiazepines get crazy ideas like robbing, Killing, and just ideas that are crazy. They should test her for Benzodiazepines.
I am really faithful in my theory if its true that she takes Xanax according to video I saw on youtube. Xanax hade role in the killing of her child. Also in interview she says she sleeps well and does not give a f about it.
@HH the nanny Zenaida or zanny... caysee was high and killed her daughter.
0 likesI don't understand how it's possible.... Whole video I was waiting to see how she got caught and proven to be guilty.... The end of the story is just insane...Devil's advocate knows his job though
1 likeShe got away with murder of her own daughter , can't stand a murderer. She should have been locked up and still in prison.
2 likes34:45 I didn’t realise this: at this point she’s arrested for murder? Yet she’s having a conversation with a detective as if they’re having coffee or bumped into each other at the shops!
0 likesThe vibe is super weird. She should be demanding to get out; to please find her daughter, saying “what am I doing here? Why are you wasting time?” But, guilty & as a sociopathic manipulator, she’s trying to charm the detective. As if in her stupid head she thinks this’ll work…..
This cop was dead on about who Casey was, an absolute callus monster!! I cannot believe the jury was brain dead enough to find this freak not guilty!!! I hope & pray karma & justice finds her & the authorities don't do a thing to find who would rid the world of this monster
0 likesShe cried more when she was declared not guilty than she did about her missing/dead daughter
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6 likesand somehow they were convinced she wasn’t guilty unfortunately
74 likes@wubenn after that point they would need to arrest her again even if she confessed
12 likes@Ege don’t quote me on this but I’m pretty sure you can due to double jeopardy
4 likes@wubenn you really missed the point of the video if you didn’t see the part where they literally don’t have 100% evidence that she did it. That’s what’s required by law technically. The old guy towards the end shaming the media and lawyers giving their unwarranted opinion was 100% correct. Whether she did it or not the way it blew up was a fucking nightmare for trying to get justice. Had the media not been so up the case’s ass, it might’ve never come to this.
27 likesSpoiler wtf
4 likes@Muscle Band Why are you in the comments? Your a candidate for getting spoiled.
6 likesLooked more like she faking it and was actually trying not to smile tbh
1 like@kamaal fr lmao i knew from the jump not to look in the comments until the video was over
2 likes@Rev You are not required 100% evidence you are required evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. You can never have 100% evidence. Even if someone is caught on tape they could say that the tape was digitally edited or like in another case say the police told them to say it for fame on youtube and by that claim you could never beyond any doubt have 100% certainty that they were lying. But you could reasonably not believe it. The key word is reasonable. The reason why she got away is because the jury was foolish to believe you had to have 100% evidence like you do.
8 likes@Ege if the woman came on TV today and said I killed my daughter you could not convict her 🤷♂️
2 likes@Joey johnson Why?
0 likes@Rev actually you only need to be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Not with 100% evidence
3 likesof course she did. it serves herself
0 likesIt’s because she knows she’s guilty and was shocked to hear not guilty!
0 likesWhat’s sad is she; (at least for now), has won, and her manipulative nature has won out over those dumb jurors. Thankfully, justice will come to her one day through the Lord himself! 🤷🏻♂️💯😏
5 likesyknow, the thing that is really distinguishing this channel from other channels that are similar is the narrators voice and how he conveys info. Really miss getting new vids from you guys </3
0 likesGOD... My guts churned when I heard "not guilty".
4 likesShe reminds me of a lot of parents I’ve worked with who end up getting investigated by child protective services.
0 likesThe fact that a jury found her not guilty just solidifies her cloud of superiority; she can continue to believe she's the smartest one in the room.
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she got off because of Nancy Grace labelling her and a lazy prosecution team
74 likesShe wasn't remotely likely to be the smartest one in the room, but her lawyer likely was. She had good representation and it counted.
170 likesMany Americans don't know how court works. All her lawyers had to do was cast a doubt on any detail of the storyline the prosecutor presents to the jury.
113 likesThese types of cases are win-able if the prosecutor has to fill-in any unknown/unclear details combined with an energetic well paid defense. Court system is quite hack-able for some while being a prejudice steam roller for others
The Prosecution lost that case due to arrogance.... it was a huge lesson for district attorneys across the country to not overcharge due to being cocky. There is no way any jury was going to sentence her to the Death Penalty when the Prosecution could not show how, when, where and why Caylee died....given all of her pathological lies I understand why the State was so confident but they got caught up in what the media was spewing instead of the reality of the case facts they actually had!
78 likes@Kur čina I agree just based on how contrasting the prosecution and defense's statements were in this video. I personally think the case should be reopened, but that will require clear evidence to prove what we know happened, just by gut feeling and an hour long piece.
15 likes@Kur čina Yes. When you get called for the jury you're sworn in just like everyone else & you have to agree to look at everything equally & fairly, regardless how you feel about the case. If there was no physical evidence against her then the jury did their job in keeping everything equal. I bet that many in the jury were against her, but they couldn't be fair in prosecuting her. That's probably why the case will never be reopened. Everyone hates her so it wouldn't be a fair trial.
7 likesthey made justice a market
12 likesHence she will do something horrible again.
11 likesI totally agree
3 likes@J S What do you expect from someone who don't even know how to turn on a PC?
0 likesShe must be if she got away with it. She was smart enough to know how to manipulate the system
0 likesAnd i bet her retired police dad paid for them lawyers
6 likesJury let normal looking people off, its been proven if she looked weird then it would of come back guilty
3 likesOr rather, the least accountable.
0 likesAnd also solidifies her cloud of untouchability.
2 likes@Rainz Storm u can turn on a pc but can't use correct grammar xdxdxd
0 likes@Meme Man Thanks, i corrected it, my bad. You won't understand if i use my native language, so deal with it.
1 like@Rainz Storm at least I understand "how to turn on a pc", like you do. Now, I wonder if you understand how to wire up and solder and design a plasma core based off aurduino.
1 like@Meme Man Are you kidding me? You really comparing these two? "how to use a PC" with "wire up and solder and design a plasma core based off aurduino", some logic please. So you must know how to survive in Mars i suppose, or know what is outside of the bound of universe, who create god? I really clapping for you smart man.
2 likes@Rainz Storm It is the same. You are basing moral judgement ability off of subjective knowledge of electronics. Therefore, based on your logic, the more technologically proficient, the better judge of moral character.
0 likes@Meme Man With your logic , no wonder why she is not guilty after she killed her own child, people busy showing off their skills in this world but forgot the simplest logic, you've just proved how that could be happened, good job for you.
2 likes@Rainz Storm nothing you just said actually means anything LMAO I just took your logic to its natural conclusion. The real question is, why are YOU relating the ability to judge moral character to being able to turn a PC on or off. THAT makes no sense, so I took it and ran with it.
0 likes@Meme Man Well, tell me why she keep lying and explain what she wrote then, basing on moral judgement? It was about learning her psychological expression and unfit evidences she provided, smart man, you must be rich to be a lawyer, sell your soul to evil.
1 like@Rainz Storm You made the comparison in the first place about the pc lol
0 likes@Meme Man Based on the result of this case, what is so surprise if the juror in the court are someone who doesn't know how to turn on a PC? You never see people that dumb? If they've done their research properly, ask her why she lied about everything and wrote down that note, how she behaved, apparently they didn't, they just believed what she made up of. So this is why i said that.
0 likes@Meme Man I think that's it Zenaida, have a good day.
0 likes@Rainz Storm Wether or not they can operate a PC has zero bearing on their judgement in the case. YOU made that egotistical connection, and I pointed out that there is always another level above what you may think is smart.
0 likes@Rainz Storm you can't deny her lawyer was a very good liar. All I'm saying is that there are intricate smart liars who can fool even smart people. I didn't mean to disrespect you.
1 like@Meme Man You really don't see the point do you? Just think about people not using internet today, they totally living in a lie without noticing anything, and the people who searching on the internet for the first hand evidences, know much better about this world, don't you agree? Of course there have fake videos, fake news, but usually people do realize it real quick just like people know who really running this world, why Biden became a president of United State, something like that.
0 likes"Wether or not they can operate a PC has zero bearing on their judgement in the case. " I dare you say it twice.
@Meme Man I respect you too, forgive me if somehow i triggered you for what i said, bye~
0 likes@Novascotia Skater I wouldn’t have given her the death penalty either, but because I believe the death penalty should be only given when there is 100% of certainty the accused is guilty (usually through dna or footage). With her case, I’m only 99,99% sure.
1 like@Rainz Storm I do want to make a point that the internet is full of lies- you can get conflicting results on anything you search, as well as the fact that humans are behind any written word, so again, most articles are full of mistruths.
0 likesThe ability to search and find information does not equal the ability to judge morality or truth, as you have to know how to use the info in that framework. Some of the stupidest people you'll meet will be on the internet, because they spend time on websites like CNN and Buzzfeed and tiktok and Facebook and instagram, which is full of useless filler sensationalist crap.
It still comes down to basic judgement. Computers are nothing special, just a different information medium.
@Meme Man Of course, lies everywhere on any platforms, in front of your eyes, that's what they say, but the point is, do you think this video is a lie? The law meant to be protecting innocent people, not the evil one, at least they should not allow the suspect walk free until making clear every lies she told, isn't it better? What a broken system.
0 likes@Rainz Storm I feel like only a woman could get off such a charge- men are dealt with much more harshly
1 like@Dinsss if I was on that jury I would have voted her guilty just to hang the jury. That way the prosecution could have retried and been sensible about what they charged her with. Maybe that's not exactly ethical but justice probably would have been served.
0 likesI am convinced she is The Omen, I actually can't fucking fathom this shit
0 likes@Queen Bytch Well I would hate to be an innocent person in similar circumstances as her if this is how the justice system works.
0 likesThe problem with her trial was EVERYONE knew she was guilty. But of what? Did she directly kill her? Have someone else do it? Cover up a conspiracy after the fact?
3 likesNo one knew the details, so you can't charge with any ONE specific thing because there is reasonable doubt it could be the other. The prosecutors should have given every possible charge and even charges that cover all of them at once, but they didn't. That's why she got off.
Very bad jurors. Ms. Ford, a juror, gave interviews and I want to know how a person as dumb as a box of rocks gets selected as a juror, including the rest of the jurors.
0 likes@Rainz Storm But if you had jurors searching the internet for "first hand evidences" and getting that much info and involvement with the case, aren't they supposed to excuse themselves from the jury panel before being chosen as a juror due to already having knowledge of the case?
0 likes@Tyler B Not saying they could find every evidences on internet, what i mean is what decision they had made let people think they let her got off all her lies easily which still doesn't make any sense even now, at least lies in a murder investigation is a crime that could put her in jail, why i said murder not homicide or accident, see what she wrote and what she did after her kid gone missing, she was having fun and feeling the greatest moment in her life, wtf.
0 likes@Tyler B Which make me feel that they didn't look at all the evidence, if they had and still found her not guilty, what can i say? I must be wrong, they were right about it, she didn't act, she didn't lie, she didn't kill her kid.
0 likesas some people in this discussion already pointed out : the major issue here is that the prosecution's case wasn't solid enough. Several members of the jury that acquitted her have spoken out and said they were angry about having to acquit her, but the prosecution just hadn't provided enough DIRECT evidence for them to pronounce her guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". So here's the bottom line : everyone knows she did it, because of course she did, but the criminal investigation was botched/rushed and that's why she didn't get convicted for it.
3 likes@MJ You missing the point, point is everyone including jury knew she is guilty and they drop all charges. And iam sory to tell you, but this has nothing to do with justice or with the law it's just loop hole in system.
0 likesThere were evidence not direct one, but pretty damn good one if you take in count on huge evidence like she waited 30 days just to cover up things.
System that allow this has nothing to do with civilized society or justice, it's just perversion. Jurors can justify their decision as they want, but in the end they let murderer go and they KNEW IT, that's not fault of prosecution that's on their heads. This makes me really sick.
@ufiCz I can totally understand why you're angry at how the case went and that the US justice system allowed it. But please, hear me out on this one. There is a law in the USA against double jeopardy : you can't be tried more than once for the same crime. It's great, because it protects people from "legal harassment", but it's a double edged sword : when putting someone on trial, you have to be SURE you have what you need to get them convicted. What's required is DIRECT evidence, indirect evidence alone doesn't cut it. The prosecution needed to be able to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt (and that's super important), that Casey Anthony herself suffocated her daughter. Her behaviour at least makes her guilty of gross negligence, but she was on trial for murder, not negligence. There was a lot of indirect evidence against Casey, which could have been direct evidence for negligence, BUT NOT for murder. At the moment of the trial, there was no direct evidence placing Casey Anthony in the scene of her daughter's death. There might have been some, but at the moment of the trial, nothing had been found YET, which is why I said the prosecution should have waited. They had no direct evidence, they hoped she'd get convicted for murder on only indirect evidence, but the jury said they can't do that. And sadly, they're actually right. Their job was to decide whether or not it's absolutely certain that Casey did it, based on the evidence they had, and it just wasn't. Was there evidence that she's a garbage mom guilty of gross negligence? Yes. Was there evidence that she considered to kill Caylee or had begun plotting it? Yes. Was there evidence she ACTUALLY did it? No. And again, the prosecution could have waited for the investigation to bring any amount of direct evidence, but they didn't. That's why she's free today.
0 likesI've just started to watch it so you're saying she got off with it??
0 likes@Bobs Building yes she did, next time it may be better for you to watch the whole video before getting the spoilers in the comment section
1 like@Alyssa Schneeberger - these are all technicalities - there is no other explanation that makes any sense, other than she did it, and with malicious intent.
2 likesThere is really no physical proof that Hitler killed anyone either, anymore than Casey did, but there is far more to tie Casey directly to the crime than there is for Hitler to the deaths that resulted from his leadership. Show me evidence that Hitler ever killed anyone. You can't, but we all know damn well you would convict him in a court if you had the opportunity.
The problem now is the selective definition of "proof" we use, to get obvious criminals off, and all that we ignore as "not proof", such as her attitude, her lack of concern all through the investigation, and the 31 days she was missing. But we can't use any of that as evidence, because of sheer technicality.
@MJ probably I was just in shock she's 💯 guilty how she got off with it I'll never know. All documentaries I've seen with American police they nail everyone inocent or guilty how they let this slip is suspicious to say the least. She's an absolute monster
0 likes@Bobs Building it's actually pretty easy. She was on trial for murder. The evidence they had against her was all indirect, nothing was placing her "beyond a reasonable doubt" in the scene suffocating her daughter. They had evidence against her for gross negligence, for sure, maybe even for plotting her daughter's murder, just not for COMMITTING said murder. That's why the jurors had to acquit her, there was no direct evidence at the moment of the trial. Several jurors even said they were angry to have to let her go, because she JUST IS guilty, everyone knows it, but there was no direct evidence. The problem is the law against double jeopardy : when you put someone on trial, you better make sure you have enough evidence to get them convicted. The prosecution should have waited until they had any direct evidence before going on trial, but they didn't and hoped the jury would pronounce her guilty based on all the indirect evidence. But the jury actually did their job correctly : because there was no direct evidence placing Casey in the scene suffocating her daughter, they said they can't pronounce her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Ultimately, the lack of patience on the prosecution's side, and/or the lack of a solid enough criminal investigation, made Caylee never get justice. Maybe, if she had been tried for gross negligence instead/on top of murder, she would have stayed in prison for longer, because the evidence collected might have been enough for that. It's an infuriating story, for sure.
0 likes@MJ Again you missing point and you actualy are wrong on so many levels. There is nothing in US law that demands direct evidence. Jury should decide if someone is guilty or not based on evidence presented and if they knew ( as they say ) they knew she was guilty, they based that on evidence they saw.
0 likesInteligent and law educated person, in this case judge, tought state made his case and was sure she will be find guilty, so there is your argument.
Iam well aware of double jeopardy and that is more reason to find her guilty and let her fight her so called innocent at other instances of us court system.
In this case jury didn't do justice to that little girl and let killer go. They knew it and there is really no excuse.
Angry ? That's not word i would use, iam just glad i didn't live next to child rapist ( father ) and child killer ( daughter ) and iam sure in every country where this case would be judge by judge she would go to jail. Worst thing is that, if somebody call her out, there are thousands of brainwashed people, that will defend her with words : "Jury find her innocent, so she in innocent proven in court of "law" ", as if jury can't make mistake.
@MJ I think there is case on this channel, where father of child let his kid in car for whole day and that kid died cause of it. There was no direct evidence, mother of that death child defend his ex husband. Everyone who knew him told as good father he was and there is no chance, he premedited murder of his kid and that he loved him. And yet, he was found guilty, just because jury didn't like him and his life style and he was directly or indirectly responsable for that kids death. He got life behind bars, i think ........
0 likes@ufiCz Well here's the thing. The US law system expects the jury to be impartial, and to convict based on direct evidence alone. But humans aren't machines, so, sometimes there's a lot going on in jury deliberation (watch the movie "Twelve Angry Men", it's about that and it's great) and emotions become part of it. It's sad to say that the jury in Casey Anthony's case actually did their job better than the jury in the case you just described. Regardless what you think about the case, if you're in a jury, you're supposed to be impartial. The US law system doesn't seem to have any solution to the problem that some jurys just aren't impartial, so basically, if you've been wrongfully convicted, you have to hope that the conviction gets overturned, but if you've been wrongfully acquitted, you're protected by the law against double jeopardy (even if new evidence is found!!!).
0 likes@MJ System expect jury to make justice to victims. If i were in that jury i would fight tooth and nails to get that person in jail. Not based on emotion, based on evidence presented, so i can sleep at night, that i give some kind of justice to innocent child.
0 likesUntil juror have mandatory IQ test and their deliberation will be ( after fact ) matter of public record, this system is just sham, that has nothing to do with justice or law. Maybe professional jury could make that system better.
If inteligent, law educated judge who handled case was surprised by their decision, there is really nothing to talk about.
And please don't start with double jeopardy again, that's nonsense by it self, it's the law, but that doesn't mean it's good law, or that it needs some minor changes.
Funny thing is that, years ago i was supporter of jury system, because we don't have it in our country. Maybe that's why, we as middle/eastern european country have such a low crime rate.
@ufiCz Your base assumption is wrong, though. That's not the role of the jury at all, the jury must be impartial and not on either side of the trial (that's what the prosecution and defense are for). There's a principle that someone is innocent until proven guilty. During a trial, the prosecution will present an interpretation of the evidence where the person on trial seems guilty, and the defense will present an interpretation of the evidence where the person on trial MAY be innocent. The role of the jury is to determine whether or not the evidence confirms the story of the prosecution beyond a reasonable doubt, or if the arguments of the defense are good enough to discredit the evidence as being evidence of the defendent's guilt. That is the entire, and only, job of the jury. Also, in the case here, the jury DID want to get Casey convicted, but, the evidence wasn't good enough for it, so sadly, the right thing was to acquit her. Casey was to be innocent until proven guilty, the evidence and story of the prosecution did not prove her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, so she got acquitted. It IS sad, and shouldn't have happened, but that's the prosecution's fault, not the jury's fault. You're being emotional about this, not rational.
0 likesIQ tests will not change much. The problem here has nothing to do with IQ. IQ tests are an attempt to measure the mental development in children, it's used on adults but wasn't intended to and really doesn't mean much. It attempts to measure people's ability to do abstract logic, which doesn't have any consequences applicable in a trial for murder.
I also don't think a professional jury would have made things better. Professionals know even better than civilians what qualifies as direct evidence, of which, again, there wasn't enough in Casey Anthony's case at the moment of the trial. Everyone was shocked and disgusted that she was acquitted, but again : if it was so clear that she was guilty, where was the evidence to support it? Think about it.
Double jeopardy actually is very important. It exists because without it, it was possible to ruin people's lives by endlessly putting them on trial, forcing them to spend money on their defense until they were broke and had to cave in (and be wrongfully convicted for a crime they didn't commit). It protects people from legal harassment, which, trust me, is REALLY important. Someone with more money than you could keep you on trial forever, until you were faced with a jury that does think the evidence makes you guilty, regardless if you're guilty or not. The double jeopardy law just has one flipside, as I already explained : when the prosecution presents a case, it MUST be absolutely sure that the evidence supports their story beyond any reasonable doubt. Again, in Casey Anthony's trial, that just wasn't the case. What evidence was there?
The only "minor change" to the double jeopardy law that could make sense, would be : what if there's new evidence found? But new evidence can be found all the time, so, again, you'd open for an endless loop of trials until the person with the least amount of money has to agree to losing the trial. That's why the prosecution should only go to trial when the evidence is already there, which is why sometimes investigations take years, but that's also why murder investigations stay open indefinitely (the system isn't that bad, you see? there's been some thought put into it).
I live in western Europe. The more I think of these things, the more I have to say, I dunno which one between a pro jury and a jury of peers is better. The crime rate doesn't have that much to do with that.
@MJ First of all IQ test are not just to measure mental dev. in children, so you are right out wrong here.
0 likesYou keep talking about direct evidence, but there is evidence and that evidence is then split into direct and indirect/circumstantial .......
Where is the LAW that stated there must be direct evidence of crime to sentence somebody to jail ? Where is the law that says person can't be guilty based on indirect evidence ?
There is a common misconception that circumstantial evidence cannot be used to convict a defendant of a crime. There is no evidence rule that prohibits a prosecutor from introducing circumstantial evidence or even from solely relying on circumstantial evidence when presenting a case against a defendant. In fact, there may be situations where circumstantial evidence is stronger than direct evidence, especially when the person testifying about what they directly witnessed is unreliable or has been shown to be untrustworthy.
You talking that jury should be impartial, yes i agree, judge too ..... Judge thought state made his case and could't believe she walk free. THIS opinion of judge throwing whole your argument thru the window.
Yes, state prosecutor didn't do good job. Do i blame him she walk free ? Yes, but in the end JURY who tought SHE WAS GUILTY let her go, in the end it's upon on jury to deliver justice and law is, or at least should be about justice. That's main point you still missing.
Little child died in care of her mother. Mother that didn't care, lied,stole, party, acted like shit to every person she knew, didn't even report missing kid, left her in trunk of her car, probably so body will starts to desolve, so autopsy couldn't find anything. Lied about absolutely everything, had motive, railroaded investigation as long as she could, she had means and she research things about murder before. If somebody talking there is reasonable doubt, he is not reasonable person.
@ufiCz Quit being this emotional... About IQ, I think I know what I'm talking about, disagree with me if you want but I will not change my mind. It was developed to measure the development of children in the first place, it's been used for other things since but it's a very skewed tool that just measures your ability to understand specific tests of abstract logic.
0 likesAnd yes, I keep talking about direct evidence. Because that's the only thing where you can be absolutely certain that no jury, professional or not, will not argue. That's the entire point of it. Literally everything else is open to interpretation, so with any evidence that isn't direct, it's a matter of which story is the most believable for the jury, the prosecution's story or the defense's story. That's why you need as much direct evidence as possible.
In the US justice system, the judge at first only presides the trial, and if the jury vote for guilty, then the judge is responsible for the criminal penalty, but that's it. It makes sense to not have the whole trial in the hands of one person. What that means is that the jury have a lot of power, and with power comes the responsibility to not misuse that power. You consider they did misuse it, I consider they didn't. The matter here is, noone outside the jury really controls what the jury consider "reasonable doubt" to be, maybe that's a weakness of the system, I'm not entirely sure (as I said before, I could totally imagine a professional jury to have considered the lack of direct evidence to be a reason to have reasonable doubt). But either way, if it's that important that the jury understands very well what is or isn't "reasonable doubt", then maybe an explanation for that should be part of each trial, especially murder trials where the victim isn't alive to testify anymore... I'll give you that.
But let me explain why the jury thought there was "reasonable doubt" here. We're talking about the death of a baby here, there's only two perpetrators that would make sense : the parents, or a pedophile predator (we could look up statistics, but I'm fairly sure those two cover like 99% of the cases). In most cases it's the parents. So, yeah, here's a reason to believe she did it. Also the whole nanny story she made up to explain why Caylee had been missing for a month when her own parents called 911. Caylee died by suffocation and she had googled stuff specifically about that. The smell in the car. All of these paint a clear picture : Casey did it. Sure. Noone is debating that. It makes no sense that anyone else would be guilty here. But here's the problem : there is no physical evidence that proves Casey was actually the person who suffocated Caylee to death. No suspect fingerprints, no suspect DNA, no video footage, nothing. So, do the laws of physics of this universe make it possible that someone else, regardless who, why or how, would have done it instead of and/or for Casey? Yes, they do. For example, it's possible Casey hired someone else to do it for her (and no evidence would have been found), in which case, she wouldn't have been the one who committed the murder (in that scenario, she would have been guilty of sollicitation for murder, and NOT of murder! But she was on trial for murder, so... she would have been not guilty). The devil is in the details. The prosecution needs to make sure to have the right accusation, and the evidence for it. It's a really tricky and stressful business, especially when the prosecution has to talk for a deceased person.
@MJ Hm jury who write something like this : The juror — who spoke with PEOPLE two subsequent times since his initial interview — told PEOPLE that the attorneys’ behavior in the courtroom also had an impact in the jury room. He described lead prosecutor Jeff Ashton as “ambitious” and “arrogant.” He said that one of the other prosecutors was “mechanical and cold.”
0 likesBut the juror had a different take on lead defense attorney Jose Baez. “He was the only one in the room who seemed like he cared,” the juror said. “We talked about that in the jury room.”
" A female juror told reporters that the jurors were “sick to our stomachs” over the verdict. The juror explained that, “I did not say she was innocent. I just said there was not enough evidence.”
This was the consensus of the other jurors interviewed after the verdict, to wit, in this “CSI age”, they expected DNA and fingerprints from the prosecution. There simply was not enough evidence to conclude that Casey Anthony committed the murder beyond a reasonable doubt."
Are just not smart people who should decide such things. Typical brainwashed americans who just don't understand that CSI isn't real life and in most cases there isn't much direct evidence.
To end this debate last post of jury : "Speaking anonymously to People, one male juror said the Anthony trial was “traumatic to think about” as he wished “I had done a lot of things differently”.
The decision not to convict Anthony of her daughter’s death “haunts me to this day” and he wished he had been able to “push harder”, the juror said.
“I think now if I were to do it over again, I’d push harder to convict her of one of the lesser charges like aggravated manslaughter. At least that. Or child abuse,” he told People. "
@ufiCz Yeah, I've read all that stuff before. That's why I told you all the things I told you.
0 likesWhite privilege much????
0 likes@Nerdy Tom she may have escaped justice here but not on the other side
0 likes@Colin Maxwell She is in no worse state than anyone else, unless confession to salvation in Jesus is made. Dont fall for the ideology that the afterlife only punishes the obviously evil.
0 likesHow on earth the jury didn't convict is beyond me
1 likeShe only shows emotion when it’s directed towards her, Even though these parents seem very supportive and loving. I am assuming that as a child, Casey didn’t get the attention she needed, that led her to be rebellious so her parents could give her the 24/7 love and care she needed. I think that Casey never loved Caylee, she had a child to further being “rebellious” and to continue her constant fight of getting the love and attention she needs.
1 likeI dated this type of girl for 3 years, lies everywhere, she is beautifull looks pure innocent but also 'deadly' at the same time, and now I knew where is her skills came from. Hope she will become a real human not a monster in the future.
3 likesShe’s not actually doing anything that smart during interrogation, she’s just mirroring the officer on purpose (like a therapist would to show they empathize with you) and then not answering his questions.
0 likesShe’s learned how to do that on purpose so that people like her more, that’s all. She’s may not even be doing it consciously.
But she’s not like some evil mastermind, she’s just accidentally using a strategy she always uses and it happens to be working pretty well here….. at least getting her out of answering questions. She looks the same amount of guilty oh dear…
The minute her mother was trying to hand her the phone to talk to 911 and she said “I don’t have anything to talk to them” was the minute I knew this is about to be TRAGIC.
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Also the moment I knew she was guilty
45 likesGloria Nelson really ? NOT the fact that she wasn't the one calling ? When her mum said, my daughter's here you knew it.
27 likesMe too that was a huge red flag
6 likesWhat an absolute fail for the justice system. Casey should be rotting in prison.
4 likesGreat example of a white, rich woman getting exactly what she wants. I can't imagine what in their right mind this jury was thinking when they came to that conclusion.
1 like29:57 " I can even put to words that she HAD both of you" notice how quickly she corrects herself "she still has both of you"
4 likescan't believe she was found not guilty after all her lies...
4 likesNothing pisses me off more than proven liars feeling vindicated.
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I'm beyond pissed 😭😡
21 likes@Lelo Nene It's shit but on the bright side she wasn't completely unpunished. 2-4 years in prison for lying and a ruined reputation.
20 likes@Wolfdoggie Tenkaistarit is shit indeed, she served exactly 3 years to the day of her sentencing. Casey served the equivalent ratio of one year in jail for every year of Caylee's short life before Caylee was murdered.
38 likesWomen
5 likesI'm almost EXACTLY this kind of liar, but I don't want to be. Constant success with this tactic makes it super addictive. Are there any online resources I can make use of to help me stop this behavior?
3 likesPays to be a white woman
22 likes@Matto Osteen you’re lying right now. Pathological liars don’t admit to being liars. Stop looking for validation on the internet
19 likes@Viral Leaks I don’t think that’s how that works.. 🤦♀️
5 likes@Viral Leaks he probably isn’t even searching on the internet, but is just trying to arouse our sympathy by distancing himself from his ‘problem’
2 likesHe confessed already that it has granted him success in the past
Why wouldn’t he want to continue using it?
@Viral Leaksbro that makes no sense you’re saying he’s lying about being a pathological liar. Thats a paradox and we’ll never know the truth.
2 likes@Matto Osteen A therapist would be the first step. There are plenty of e-therapists as well, especially if you're looking for help with a budget.
1 like@Kof wrong
0 likes@Entropy damn you watch one of these videos and suddenly you talk like a psychologist.
1 like@Viral Leaks Being serious. Trying to stop. I'm older, don't know how to private this. How exactly is this "validation?" I posted my request on this thread because I felt like someone like you wouldn't give me B.S. and you didn't let me down. Thank you, but I'm serious.
0 likesI got one... proven lying, baby murders feeling vindicated
0 likes@Matto Osteen “Now you shift the blame onto the accuser, trying to weaken their emotional resolve with the guilt you impose”
0 likesThis tactic is to be expected of a sociopath who immediately feels the need to shut down the debate by trying to make the adversary look unintelligent to completely block off any and all support that he might have from the spectators
In the beginning of the comment, the sentences used were short, possibly to indicate precisely and briefly what the problem is and the urgency required to stop it, but towards the end of the monologue, the sentences morph into long ones, implying that the writer is in no hurry to get the work done, probably because of meticulously planning to take advantage of the prosecution’s psychology to the fullest extent in stark contradiction to the initial impression, which is either an error or some sort of planned trick as initial impressions have a stronger effect on a person, making the man behind this comment far more experienced and dangerous
However, as soon as this scheme has been spotted, all prior calculation is rendered useless and the gambit is foiled
This inaccuracy makes the detective’s work far easier because only one of the above given inferences can be true and the evidence of the case strongly suggests the latter explanation
None of this is completely proven or irrefutable fact, but simply a detailed analysis of possible intentions of the suspect with little to no trace of a firm motive
yuppppppp
0 likesThis is 100% a narcissist at the highest degree. Especially in the interrogation room with the detectives, she’s agreeable and is talking extremely proper, trying to make it look like she “has it all together” so the detectives don’t see her as being guilty. But what she doesn’t realize is that she isn’t displaying the emotions/actions of a grieving mother, the detectives are noticing this also… after watching this compilation of videos and seeing it like this, which is likely why is was put together like this, lol… there is no question who committed this and it’s an absolute embarrassment to our justice system that this spoiled brat got away while lying through her teeth the entire time and I have to tell my kids about this…
1 likeat 30 minutes her mother figures it out, you can see it on her face. Casey uses the past tense when referring to her daughter multiple times and then back tracks
5 likesI wish this video was a little more neutral in structure (literally character assassination into writing off her defense as lies), but it was primarily informative, and I enjoyed it.
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I should probably say, I don't expect to find a more fair treatment anywhere else.
0 likesShe is evil. That’s all anyone needs to know. And she should never be able to make money off of her evil. Something else that others can’t control.
2 likesHearing her best friend Christina break down like that is heartbreaking, she feels what Casey should be feeling
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and Casey's reaction was awful, she didn't want to hear any of it
135 likesexactly I was thinking the entire time about how devastated the family was about losing that little girl, everyone except the mother
59 likesDid you not listen to a single thing the video explained to you? You overlook the fact of what was said and discovered? How she masked everything up because she was sexually abused by her dad? It became part of her character. Psychologists during the trial gave testimony as to how this works. Why she was unable to display emotion. Jeez, you really drink that koolaid huh
1 like@Leo Strife no fucken excuse for her actions is acceptable!
20 likesMan you trippin on some good good huh? The world needs less excuses and more ownership of actions.
at first i wasnt paying attention and thought she was the murderer so i was like "here we go with the fake emotions" and then i was like "oh GOD no, that was real..."
2 likes@ANIMAL LOVERS DONT KILL&EAT ANIMALS🤍ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ 😂😂😂you should try comedy😂😂😂
1 like“Oh… my… god. Speaking to you… complete waste of time.”
1 likeits insane that shes been lying about her true nature to her friends and family the entire time, it seems like her brother was the only one who know who she was like
2 likes@Isabella Guy right!! Casey was annoyed that her friend was crying and just wanted her boyfriends phone number… like seriously?! I would be losing it if that were my daughter
3 likesMan, those two detectives at 15 minutes in were having NONE of her BS. They sound legitimately annoyed by her, and when the first one says he thinks everything she says is a lie.... normally detectives use phrases like that to wear down someone, but I think he legitimately doesn't believe a single word she says. Why would he? She literally took them through universal and then admitted at the very end she doesn't work there.
0 likesRest in Peace Caylee 🕊️ I'm so sorry you did not get a better mommy. I know my brother in heaven is having ball playing on heavens play ground with you
1 likeThis case still breaks my heart.
1 likeShes more worried about getting out of the situation than her daughter missing. Not showing any kind of remorse whatsoever but is annoyed that no one believes her lies.
1 likeI still cannot even fathom how she’s not locked up right now
1356 likesUpdate: obviously she had a great lawyer, and the prosecution was lacking in evidence. Obviously, people shouldn’t be convicted without substantial evidence, I just feel like there’s DEF evidence, and they just weren’t competent enough to expose it.
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It disturbs me what happened to jury, everything was in front of them still they set this waste of human life free😒
82 likesI am so pissed off that she got away with it, with so much against her, as she wished in her diary, her happiness actually grew, she did not have to take care of her child, could party as much as she wanted and got away with murder.
93 likesI concur deeply disturbed that she's got away with it.
21 likesHow come she's not hysterical that her daughter been taken...
not only is she not locked up, she WORKS in the legal system. From a 2017 interview: Anthony lives in the South Florida home of Patrick McKenna, a private detective who was the lead investigator on her defense team. She also works for him, doing online social media searches and other investigative work. McKenna was also the lead investigator for OJ Simpson, when he was accused of killing his wife and acquitted; Anthony said she's become fascinated with the case, and there are "a lot of parallels" to her own circumstances.
57 likesWoah. I never followed this case. Didnt know this evil demon wasn't in jail. Time for street justice. I hope someone brings it to her.
27 likes@Ally Lou right! Id call the police if my kid was missing for five minutes
5 likes@The Eyes Have IT Been at least 9 or 10 years, hardly anything gonna happen to her i think.
8 likes@Hrist Sunstrider fucked up. That makes me mad
6 likesbecause they didn't have compelling evidence to convict her of murder. i'm glad she's not in prison with the overwhelming lack of compelling evidence the prosecutors had.
7 likes@antipsychotic People do not understand that. Regardless of how we feel about her, if every trial was conducted without evidence there would be an enormous amount of innocent people in jail. People do not understand the process of law. Someone did not do their job collecting evidence.
15 likes@antipsychotic True, but it's so goddamn obvious it kills me inside.
22 likes😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
1 like@antipsychotic yeah and they knew that and they decided to go with the emotional route which didnt work
1 likeWell thank god you're not the jury then, since nobody could prove shit.
3 likesTry to reopen this case..
2 likes@tleia ralte No, because of the legal clause known as double jeopardy
2 likesIts the brilliance of the lawyer.
2 likeswrong skin colour
2 likesFemale privilege. It's a fact, atleast in the courts.
10 likes@Arthur that should be easily supported with evidence, then. Care to share?
0 likes@Arthur *white privilege
3 likes@Nicholas Marshall
0 likesWow!
@Desy
10 likesShe won’t feel guilty. She’s a psychopath. Incapable of empathy or remorse.
@CJD
2 likesReally? That should be easily supported with evidence then. Care to share?
@antipsychotic
4 likesYes that’s the way our justice system works. We don’t convict based on emotion or gut feeling or even if we know for sure that the defendant is guilty. The burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused. If the prosecution didn’t prove her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt then the jury has to acquit. (Like if the glove doesn’t fit or something.)
I don’t know if they proved it or not. I wasn’t there. Apparently they didn’t. It’s better to set a guilty person free than to imprison or execute an innocent person.
Even so, I’m not glad she got away with it. I just wish that the prosecution had been able to prove her guilty.
She’s thinking about having another child. If she was in prison or dead she wouldn’t be having (and possibly killing) more children.
Of course if she does have another child the whole country is going to be paying attention. I don’t think she’ll get away with it again.
@J. S.T.
1 likeThat’s bullshit 🤨
@CJD
0 likesThat’s horse shit. 🥴
What?
0 likes@Vlad the Impala “bullshit” “horseshit” “chicken shit” that’s exactly how your “female privilege” comment sounded. that’s not even a thing. if you watched other videos on here or literally have watched any true crime case in general (which clearly you haven’t), you would know that there are many many WOMEN who have been convicted of murder. so don’t pull the “she’s a girl, that’s why she got away with it” it’s just ignorant
1 like@Laurie Bird
1 likeWow! You sure told me. Except I never said anything about female privilege or any other kind of privilege.
@Vlad the Impala my bad, thought that was you who made the comment. my apologies, but it’s still white privilege
0 likes@Laurie Bird
1 likeBy the way, I don’t believe there’s any such thing as female privilege or any other kind of systemic privilege based on race or gender in our criminal justice system. I know there are times when it’s not applied equally for everyone and there are miscarriages of justice but those are isolated incidents not part of a deliberate systemic bias. There’s wealth privilege because people who have lots of money can afford better lawyers and they have a higher position in society. That is a flaw and it shouldn’t be that way but I don’t think there’s anyplace where that doesn’t exist.
Also, your response to me would have been appropriate if I had been the one who said that but I wasn’t.
That was the third eye who said that, not me.
@The Eyes Have IT Who are you to bring justice?
0 likes@Laurie Bird That is a bit racist
0 likes@Desy U think ? Doesnt seemed so
1 like@CJD
6 likeshttps://www.huffpost.com/entry/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742
"The study found that men receive sentences that are 63 percent higher, on average, than their female counterparts.
Starr also found that females arrested for a crime are also significantly more likely to avoid charges and convictions entirely, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted."
So female privilege is a thing and tbh being a woman i know this to be true we do have it pretty easy.
@Laurie Bird https://www.huffpost.com/entry/men-women-prison-sentence-length-gender-gap_n_1874742
2 likes"The study found that men receive sentences that are 63 percent higher, on average, than their female counterparts.
Starr also found that females arrested for a crime are also significantly more likely to avoid charges and convictions entirely, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted."
@CJD So racist
0 likes@ATomRileyA you can’t be racist towards a white person. also, if you read the end of the article it says “Past studies have also found that minority men are, on average, given longer prison sentences than white men convicted of the same crimes”. it’s all about the skin too. these women usually are white and are not seen as a threat. put a black person up there and they are easily convicted
0 likeslet me help you the word is SHE thats why
1 like@Sebastian johansson if you’re white then i’m not about to deal with your ignorance lmao bye
0 likesShe's not locked up because of the sad reality that sometimes your charisma and well honed skill of lying overrides facts and evidence. I know it sounds horrible and dark, but what other explanation could there be to something like this?
3 likes@Sebastian johansson lmaoooooo😂
0 likes@Sebastian johansson you’re making me laugh a lot, please keep going 😂😂 the ignorance JUMPED OUT and it’s hilarious
1 like@mastered *woman. and that’s not me. in fact, im currently dating someone of mixed race sooo, nice try :)
1 like@Laurie Bird that twitter profile tells me something different, you dating whoever doesn't matter. female
5 likesinteresting how you did not deny the hating white people part tho :D
@mastered so true takes a sick person to hate some one else for something they cant change
1 like@Sebastian johansson "White people can indeed face stereotypical assumptions based on their skin colour and hence encounter racial prejudice. But this cannot be called racism, because of the inherent systemic imbalance of power between those with lighter skin colour and people of colour. Racial prejudice can affect people on an individual level, but it would not have the same effect on a larger social and cultural level because it is only when stereotypes are bolstered by power, such as through a eurocentric model of thinking, that it creates systemic and structural racism and oppression that people of colour have encountered throughout history."
2 likes- Dr Pragya Agarwal, author and behavioural scientist
Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/09/can-white-people-experience-racism-12340542/?ito=cbshare
Man what a trial im still not certain on what her excuse was that her daughter was dead. Was it an accidentally drown?
0 likesCuz her lawyer charming as hell and convinced the jury
2 likesThank god we have educated people working as lawyers and not this comment section
2 likes@murmurzz aa yes just put every white person in one grup and say they have power
2 likesThis argument is stupid
@Sebastian johansson Generalizing and racism are bad, but not against people I don't like. I don't even see them as hypocrites anymore, just the enemy.
1 likeIt's the American justice system, super flawed, so many innocent people get locked up while obvious guilty people get to go free. 🤷♂️
5 likesbecause 30 days has passed, they didnt have any hard evidence that shows she killed her so it all falls down to how good her defense lawyers was. she can live a good life now but she will meet her daughter again in the afterlife and answer to the court of God.
2 likes@Krihoise Where is Casey Anthony now. January 1st 2021 Casey Anthony has filed documents to start a private investigation firm, according to Florida state records. The address listed for the company belongs to Patrick McKenna, according to Palm Beach County property records.
2 likesMcKenna was the lead investigator on Anthony’s defense team during her 2011 trial.
In a 2017 interview, Anthony told The Associated Press that she had been working for McKenna doing online social media searches and other investigative work. McKenna was also the lead investigator for O.J. Simpson, when he was accused of killing his wife and acquitted
@Hrist Sunstrider Where is Casey Anthony now. January 1st 2021 Casey Anthony has filed documents to start a private investigation firm, according to Florida state records. The address listed for the company belongs to Patrick McKenna, according to Palm Beach County property records.
0 likesMcKenna was the lead investigator on Anthony’s defense team during her 2011 trial.
In a 2017 interview, Anthony told The Associated Press that she had been working for McKenna doing online social media searches and other investigative work. McKenna was also the lead investigator for O.J. Simpson, when he was accused of killing his wife and acquitted
@Nicholas Marshall Where is Casey Anthony now. January 1st 2021 Casey Anthony has filed documents to start a private investigation firm, according to Florida state records. The address listed for the company belongs to Patrick McKenna, according to Palm Beach County property records.
0 likesMcKenna was the lead investigator on Anthony’s defense team during her 2011 trial.
In a 2017 interview, Anthony told The Associated Press that she had been working for McKenna doing online social media searches and other investigative work. McKenna was also the lead investigator for O.J. Simpson, when he was accused of killing his wife and acquitted
I did not follow this case didn't have nothing to do with it also did not know that she did not get charged for murdering her child. Oh no she might have been able to pull the blindfold over the jury but when the real judgment the one that matters is here we all know what's going to happen to her God knows the truth and he will judge accordingly
0 likes@Desy she has never felt guilty for killing her own child
0 likesI wonder what the verdict would have been if it was black man instead of Casey in same setting.
1 likeok calm down everyone, if she was a man she would be in prison, we all know it..
3 likes@Ranjit Tyagi not personally but I belueve in a life for a life. As does God.
0 likesthats the ''justice'' for you :D
1 like@Gary but the 'r' is silent 😂
0 likes@Alma Miranda i feel you but i mean what mother doesn’t call the police for 31 days thats sum sus shit.
3 likes@Alma Miranda She’s definitely guilty. But it all comes down to evidence, or lack of, and that’s what freed her. Unfortunately.
2 likes@Desy People like her don’t feel guilt.
2 likesyeah its a real shame the justice system isnt just and treats women different than men. if she were a man that did this she would be on death row and everyone knows it
0 likes@Clown World That’s probably true. But I won’t say for sure.
0 likesThe jury was like literally stupid to not find her guilty.
2 likes@Sebastian johansson Yo, we're talking about racism so ...huh? It has everything to do with skin tone
0 likes@antipsychotic i guess she never neglected her child caring mother
0 likes@murmurzz you cant even understand my point i end it here have a nice day
0 likes@murmurzz That is a definitional change. You can re-define anything to mean something else. Changing definitions doesn't change reality.
1 like@Jengleheimer Schmitt Are you referring to my link about reverse racism being a myth? The fact is that individuals could have their own bias against all white people - which I do not agree with and is definitely their own prejudice but there is not a deep-rooted and systemic racism towards white ppl. That is why reverse racism is not a thing.
2 likes@Sebastian johansson Damn, you beat me to it lol
0 likes@Laurie Bird tf do you mean you can’t be racist to a what’re person???
0 likes@murmurzz You are expressing "deep-rooted and systemic" bias. And you are very clearly defending judging people based on the color of their skin rather than the content of their character.
2 likesRe-defining words to make your prejudice appear virtuous is only a linguistic trick. It is not a claim about the nature of reality, it is simply modifying definitions to launder and glorify your own ideological prejudice.H
@murmurzz I Are you seriously claiming that you can tell whether or not someone is "racist" without knowing anything at all other than their race? If you don't see the absurdity of that, I think you must be entiierly immune to noticing absurdity. Perhaps you have a "deep-rooted and systemic" immunity to noticing absurdity.
2 likes@Jengleheimer Schmitt I don't even know what you're saying. Nowhere did I say that you can tell if someone is racist by just looking at their skin. Where tf are you getting this from? I'm done, folks. If you don't understand my point than you probably never will. One last time: especially in the USA, white men have held the majority of the power. While white women were considered inferior, they still had privilege and power over others just because they were white. Therefore, reverse racism cannot exist because we have always had the advantage. K, I'm done repeating myself. You either get it or you don't.
2 likes@murmurzz Yes folks. You either believe or you are an unwitting part of systemic oppression
1 like@murmurzz Well, one race"_is_ inherently "racist", whilst another "race" is not... Regardless of anything any "individuals" actually do or do not do, and regardless of the content of ones character, no?
2 likesIs that not a fair summation of your position?
@murmurzz Also, this therm "reverse racism" another silly neo-logism created by the ideology that you are espousing. Unless one re-defines "the therm "racism" to assume it's own conclusion, it is a meaningless term.
1 likeIf you honestly want to modify the definition of such an overwhelmingly-important term, try proposing the modification straightforwardly, rather than simply declaring it to be so.
The problem that arises directly is that you would have to say something like, "I think racism should be defined based on ones race, rather than on anything meaningfully objective". -Which is a very silly thing to say.
@Desy You think she's feeling guilt? no chance...
0 likes@notafake account drowned in pool but was duct taped and put in a swamp, made imaginary people up, car boot smelled of a body, searched suffication on computer, went out partying... And you think innocent?
2 likes@The Eyes Have IT we can only hope
0 likesShe's white and pretty. She also got very lucky in her jury picks.
0 likes@Arthur I guess Jodi Arias missed out on that privilege hey?
0 likesProbably her looks or she done something behind closed doors. Then to get offers from playboy and tv shows? Cmon
0 likes@Laurie Bird Yeah here it is buddy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentencing_disparity
0 likesWhite privilege exists
0 likesHalo Effect (in relation to good looks and how to judge good looking people to be of better morale character), MONEY and a SENSATIONAL lawyer.
0 likesAnd this is what America is messed up. How on earth did she get away with that at all is so corrupt. If I was on that Jury I would of gone with guilty on all accounts. So if she didn’t kill Caylee, who did? Doesn’t even seem like they were even bothered about that at all. This is so sad.
1 likeWhat was that about her dad abusing her when she was young? Her actually dad was at the hearing, I am confused
1 like@J. S.T. “MoRe LiKe JuSt Be WhItE” 🙄🙄
0 likesMaybe because she is a woman? Women can't do anything wrong as they say now.
0 likes@Nicholas Marshall I read that case of OJ Simpson and saw the actual photos of well what happened. Explain's how she got off as OJ so guilty so guilty killing his ex wife. She only got upset when it was about her not about her child if your child has gone missing surely you be in a distrort state phoning police and doing anything to find her and phone your mum. What gets me so many people lie her get litually away with murder.
0 likes@Desy no because I feel she is a social path no remorse... what I see she was relieved that she was gone.
0 likes@Laurie Bird I is white and I concur
0 likes@Vlad the Impala I concur
0 likesOk when the detective is speaking to her ....who's trained in questions to ask and to see how she answers them she was not sat there like she was speaking of her child it was like she was speaking bloke she was in a job interview laughter flirting .....I sorry she's killed her own kid or had bloke do it for her how ever her part was there. To busy partying and smoking blow. Tell me how she get to work in criminology??
1 likeWhat the f!!!
@notafake account because the jury didn't seem to be brightest sparks or even cared
0 likesCasey I hope you read this I hope karma catches up with u.
0 likes@Ally Lou
0 likesI have made several comments. I’m glad someone agrees with at least one of them but which of my comments are you saying you concur with?
You’re also saying that you agree with Laurie Bird and I disagree with quite a lot of what she has said.
Especially the part about it not being possible to be racist against white people. It absolutely is possible. In fact it’s quite common.
@Alma Miranda yes, I agree. You just get that gut feeling that she wasn’t innocent. I wish they figured out what really happened and could present evidence.
0 likes@notafake account yes, I get it. It just seems like she totally had something to do with it. It’s more hard to fathom that no one found anything.
0 likesShe was sleeping with her lawyer
1 likeI must say, she's an impressive liar. She's exceptionally good at going into enough detail to seem believable but not so much that it seems suspicious.
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Having a police officer as a dad will do that
0 likesWhere does Casey live?
0 likesAs of 2017, Anthony was living in South Florida with Patrick McKenna, a private detective who worked as the lead investigator on her case in the 2011 trial in the death of her daughter. McKenna is also known for his work on the O.J. Simpson case, the former NFL star who was charged and later acquitted in the murder of his wife, Nicole Brown Simpson.
Absolutely insane
Poor Cindy. A grandmother’s love is so real.
1 likeThe lies. The prosecutors really messed this case up or her defense attorney was the best in the world. I still can’t believe she got away with this.
0 likes“She wasn’t an event coordinator. She sold photos of people after they had been on The Incredible Hulk ride”
21173 likesYou just roasted someone by simply stating a fact lol
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She roasted herself.
606 likesFacts/the truth usually does that
132 likesI rodethat ride around that time, and we ended up buying a picture. Makes me wonder.
211 likesThe fact that she lied was the pathetic part. Having a job, any job, shouldn't be insulting or embarassing in any way.
414 likes😂
3 likesAnd you just insulted everyone that has that job.
66 likesReminds me of an employee I had. She was basically a janitor and she told our clients that she was a "Facilities Coordinator" right in front of me one time, was so awkward. After she left she used me as a reference. They called me and asked "So it says here she was a Facilities Coordinator"... I was like, uh, no she was basically a janitor. She also came across as a sociopath and definitely a liar.
108 likesLied about everything and got away with it. She didn’t even use her right to remain silent. What a travesty of justice!
48 likes@Abdel Hassan true
1 like@Abdel Hassan She had NO job. If your job is to FIND a job & NOT steal from family and friends, that shouldn't be embarrassing, either.
6 likesShe was a event coordinator, she coordinated the sale of photos for the Hulk event . I rest my case.
50 likesTaylor they only insulted people who have that job & lie about being event coordinators 🤷🏻♀️
5 likesLOL! Oh my god, yes, la! Good shout tha
0 likesDead 💀 lol
0 likesyou should look at all the casey videos on YARtv on youtube they show how the case was faked!
0 likes@яeрlay Can you elaborate?
1 likeThat's why racism is so funny
2 likesNice profile pic.
0 likesThat is a such an odd lie...
0 likesbest kinda shade
0 likesThe events she was coordinating were the purchases of said photographs. Use your head.
2 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likes@Monica G. Davis It kind of reminds me of Meghan Markle telling a newspaper she was on the short list for the next Bond Girl. So the newspaper called up the producers of the Bond films and they laughed and said they'd never heard of her and she certainly wasn't on the short list. Some people just let lies roll off their tongues so easily. Logically, you know it's a lie but the way they deliver it, it sounds so plausible.
7 likesI thought this was hilarious 🤣
1 likeI was looking for this comment lol
0 likesThis is the real life enactment of The Devils Advocate..
0 likesHis roasts are impeccable
1 likeLol I kind of laughed at that part
0 likes@Taylor it’s one thing to work that job, and it’s another thing lying about having a much more complicated job when in reality you had that one
0 likesLmao I laughed at this too
1 likeSuperVjimenez comment LOL🤣
0 likesFax
0 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
2 likes@azsuter O clever one 🤣
0 likesAll of a sudden everyone rode the Hulk around the time Casey worked there 🙄
3 likesShe never worked there. The lady Juliette that she said was her friend and was an event coordinator was actually the one selling the photos.
0 likesShe didnt even work at the Universal, she took cops there and no one knew her.
0 likes@Joey C You might have met the event coordinator?!
0 likes@Taylor lmao I have that job but with River Adventure not Hulk
0 likesAn event coordinator at Universal?? that in itself makes no sense
0 likesJust awful that a child murderer goes free because she’s a woman and not a man. We see this all the time.
0 likesLmfaoo
0 likes@David Lilleøren all the time? Hmm ok
2 likesYes, @Bologna, even in my small country Norway, several women who killed their children just walked away, pleading insanity etc
0 likes@Destiny no the narrator said Juliette didn't exist at all. Completely made up. He said Casey Anthony worked with the hulk ride
0 likesI lost it at this line. The delivery is just 👌
1 like@Monica G. Davis agreed
0 likes@Joey C Oh shiiiiit....
0 likesFACTS BRO
0 likes@David Lilleøren you don't go free if you plead insanity. check "what pretending to be crazy looks like" in this channel, you're misinformed and clearly just trying to justify your women hatred
1 likeLOL
0 likes@Dallas Van Winkle
2 likesWay to help her get a leg up.
Everyone uses titles that sound better than the real thing - If my business card said "guy who fobbs people off on the phone for a faceless corporation", I wouldn't get that much business would I?
If she was your janitor, she WAS coordinating your facilities. Using the wrong cleaning fluids WILL damage flooring surfaces. Using the wrong quantities Will leave residues that present a slipping hazard. Using the same mop in the kitchen as was used in the toilet WILL spread germs.
Her coordination meant that your facilities ran in a more safe and efficient manner.
Would it have been so hard to give another person a hand up?
She for sure half a mutant —-
0 likesGave you your 20.000st thump up. Well deserved! 🙂👍
0 likesPeople using quotation marks, always getting the quote wrong
0 likesHearing the detectives basically say “we got you” and then learning she gets away makes my eyes fucking roll
4 likesDAMN, her lawyer was right "if you're unsure of what happened to Caylee, then Casey's guilt hasn't been proven and you shouldn't find her guilty." And EVERYONE figured she'd be found guilty. And he just checkmated everyone with a simple point. That was impressive lawyering. (But I thought it was off that he said "Casey did not murder Caylee" at the press conference. He just made the point that we're unable to make a definitive call on that.)
0 likesi remember when i was a kid watching her phone call with her parents. it's haunting remembering the whole case going down.
0 likesI'm not a psychiatrist, but one thing I noticed is that whenever Casey talks to her parents the parents sound like the child and Casey sounds like the parent.
1 likeAbsolutely blows my mind to this day that she was not found guilty.
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I'm surprised jury is still a thing, a bunch of people who know nothing about crime deciding the fate of criminals depending on whether theyb "believe" the evidence. At least make them pass an iq check. This case should've been a slam dunk...
378 likes@Ug Ne they intentional pick people who know nothing about the law.
48 likes@alex derek what's the logic behind that?? 🤔
13 likes@Ug Ne No, we need a Tribunal. Composed of loyal government employees.
27 likesThat's how most of the world works. How is that working for China, Russia and North Korea?
@alex derek "they intentional pick people who know nothing about the law."
27 likesSounds like a democracy....
@Jamal Labarge you sound unhinged
51 likes@Ug Ne Yet people on social media can do the exact same thing with no knowledge of anything.
9 likesAbsolutely disgusting! She is guilty! This made me so 😡
16 likes@Jamal Labarge sure buddy
9 likes@Ug Ne We Americans like our justice system. What the rest of the world does is their business.
6 likes@Jamal Labarge👌
6 likes@Ug Ne What's your point? That we need tribunals who judge according to government criterion?
2 likesYou have a point, but you are shy about saying it.
@goatbut29 Many nations are not democracies - China isn't one.
0 likesWhy is this a problem?
The US government likes democracies. They are easy manipulate.
Courtesy of the dumbest jury in history.
20 likesYep. And that is exactly why I think we haven’t seen the best of her yet. We will probably hear more about her in the news one day.
3 likes@Jamal Labarge naming authoritarian countries without a jury system doesn't prove your point. Most first world countries have normal civil law without a jury system (which means judges make the decision), and it has worked fine for them for years. Also, the USA isn't the epitome of democracy, in fact it is at rank 27 on CPI scale. (2021)
14 likes@Jamal Labarge Many Americans do not like the jury system, and are dissatisfied with the american justice system so you're false. Oh and please inform me why people should be unfamiliar with the law?
7 likes@BASILER A lot of crimes in the US are not subject to trial by jury. Do they like that too?
0 likes@Jamal Labarge The problem is is that many people escape justice because of juries. It might very well be that a lot of cases are not subject to juries, but the idea is that none should be. People who do not understand law and have had no education on the subject will very often judge cases based on feeling despite of evidence, an example of this is the Vicky Pryce trial where jurors repeatedly had to ask if they could speculate some things. Judges also prevent police misconduct, for instance if evidence is found when a cop forces himself into your home it cannot be used, yet if this were to be revealed to a jury (the evidence), a jury would likely still be biased and unable to fairly asses a case or events.
4 likesthere are many examples of juries who completely ignore evidence for example this case or the infamous OJ simpson case, and go with their gut instead.
Why? Why does this blow your mind? She is so obviously innocent. Her lawyers spiffy suit and engaging demeanor tells me she is certainly innocent. Not guilty. Why do you still pretend she’s a killer?
5 likes@Ug Ne But what would be better? If it was up to the judge or a hired jury, corruption can happen more easily.
1 likeThere was no direct physical evidence that linked her to the murder
1 like@Joey Doherty well from what I've seen on crime channels rich people go unpunished (or win a case against someone poorer) either way. I'm not against jury itself but the people they put on there. If I had to imagine an improved version of this system, I'd say it would be great if people had to pass some short course that would assess their critical thinking skills beforehand. It boggles my mind that a compelling speech that is clearly constructed to appeal to emotion can change the outcome of a case in spite of evidence.
0 likes@Breakfast Television there was enough evidence to have had her convicted.
5 likesus justice ,the best in the world.,they say self, to make it even they convict innocent to die.
0 likesJust like OJ
2 likes@Ug Ne didn’t trump appoint like 6 judges in to courts that weren’t qualified for the jobs, it seems like the whole system is broken more or less
0 likesthe power of white privilege
4 likes@Jamal Labarge Unlike dictatorships which don't need manipulation. I'd prefer a flawed system over an evil one.
0 likes@Ug Ne To make it fair, If people who knew about how criminal system worked and how law worked they would be too hard on the criminal. If people who knew the perp or the victim did so then they would be biased. So the only people who can judge is random people who know nothing about the law who can be presented with evidence and try to make a decision
1 likeThat's why you should always get a defense lawyer who looks and sounds like Alec Baldwin.
1 likewait what, I'm midway through the video and I though that she was in jail right now ( I haven't watch the court decision yet )
1 like@Devs you have no idea what living in a broken system is like. Americans like jury’s because English common law treats each person as an individual rather than civil law where every aspect is codified and lacks the nuance of individualism.
1 like@Kare-Raisu hold on to your hat, baby
0 likesI remember watching a documentary where they said they weren’t sure beyond a reasonable doubt, but if a mother threw out this many false flags, I’m not sure how they could possibly doubt it. It wouldn’t surprise me if her looks subconsciously helped her case
0 likes@Arminius Music What direct evidence was there that proves Caylee did not drown in the pool? I think she probably wasn’t watching her and she drowned. It happens all the time. The prosecution should have done a better job proving negligent homicide instead of focusing on chloroform and her partying.
2 likes@Ug Ne yknow the lawyers pick the jurors, right? They even get to ask potential jurors questions to figure out which way their biases would lean during the trial. The defence attorney was just a way better lawyer. Sad but true.
0 likes@Ug Ne the idea is it's supposed to be a "jury of your peers", which means that they want a group of people who are not inherently biased for or against the defendant. So they call in a bunch of people for jury duty. Then the lawyers ask them questions to find out if they have any particular biases that would negatively or positively impact the case for their respective sides, and choose accordingly. It made sense at some point, but after 200 years anybody can figure out how to bend rules
0 likesOj all over again
2 likes@Ug Ne id blame the system more than the ppl honestly. both sides of the case have the opportunity to misguide the jury on what certain laws or words mean, or what their jobs are etc. which is apparently what a lot of ppl think is what went wrong in this case. most ppl are reasonably intelligent just like you or me.
0 likesedit: person above me referenced OJ and thats a good example of how precious and careful the job of a juror is. look how messy that trial and the media surrounding it was.
there is no such thing as innocent or guilty, only consequences
1 like@Ug Ne Like Rorschach 😂😂
0 likesShe was found not guilty because the prosecution overcharged her and focused too heavily on that over charge. They never had a definitive cause of death which made it rather hard to convict on first degree murder. They should have focused on potential child abuse and manslaughter with the hopes that the jury would convict on those charges and then with those two convictions it would help them make the leap to first degree homicide.
1 like@Ug Ne We have a jury of peers because it's a democracy; to not leave your fate solely to some bought-out government official. However unreliable a jury can be sometimes, I'd still prefer that than having ANY politician decide my fate, thanks.
0 likes@Breakfast Television her behavior is enough though. And if not for murder, they could’ve gotten child neglect resulting in involuntary manslaughter if they believed the pool thing, and other charges for getting in the way of the investigation with the lies.
0 likesNo really, how was she found not guilty?
0 likes@Withstandyes... and it's even more than the system and more than the evolutionary advantage... I wanted to thank you for your comment... hopefully you speak from your own assessment rather than some plagiarized movie line or publication... because it is a great assessment... and the reason is deeper than anyone realizes... the entire interface through which humanity interacts with itself is warped into a narcissistic perception... this interface that warps perception is present at conception but clicks on when social interaction begins... it's not really a comment length subject to discuss... but some of the deepest research went into solving the self-destructive nature of humanity and where it stems from...
0 likesCasey’s defense teamed pick jurors that they knew were stupid.
0 likes@Mark Enriquez Apparently
0 likes@Jelon Lennon Jose Baez in the beginning of the trial said “Casey lied, there is no Zanny the nanny”, he said “Caylee drowned in the backyard pool” then at the end of the trial Jose says “we may never know how Caylee died”.
0 likesBut how was she not found guilty? I don't understand this everybody else in the entire planet knows she killed Kaylee. Why can't the jurors see it.
0 likesYeah she's okay cuz she's in the arms of Jesus now so yeah she's perfectly okay. She was an okay though when this person killed her
0 likes@omegakrest yeah let's hope she never decides to have another baby. because if you ask me at all boiled down her being jealous of her daughter. Because she didn't get all the attention.
0 likesWhats sad too, is that her biological father passed away in a car crash before she was born. Such a tragic story, all the way around.
1 likeShe’s pathological liar and why people believed her lies against her father? The verdict turns out shocking
1 likeit's so funny to watch those amazing lawyers from homicide and very disturbing cases, then compare their skills with the team of the jhonny depp case. They are in a completely different league.
0 likesone of the most infuriating things about casey is that she speaks like a 2000s disney channel villain
2 likesThe sad thing is Casey’s parents probably would have gladly taken custody of Caylee if Casey just asked them.
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and it’s so clear she loved the power of being able to say no, that’s why she didn’t give Caylee to them
631 likesOr even the best friend, this whole thing is a sad tragedy. Hope this little girl gets the justice she deserves one day.
564 likesHer parents loved and cherished little Caylee...they most definitely would have taken custody of the little angel ..
97 likes@wonbadood There was no DNA found on the duct tape. Neither hers or her daughters.
41 likes@Joe Felony I was simply stating something which was mentioned in the video.
75 likes@Villanelle I like you
19 likes@Villanelle why would you quote something if you don’t believe in it? Either own it or take back your words.
7 likes@Joe Felony If you look at the comment I was originally replying to - that was the only reason I left mine. Jeez... 🙄 Calm down to a frenzy, will ya?
52 likes@Joe Felony what tf are you talking about
26 likes@Villanelle yeah sorry, I was in a very bad mood .
29 likes@Joe Felony Thanks.
12 likesYeah she really should not have been a mom.
24 likesCasey hated her parents. She wanted to hurt them too. She got Narcissistic supply from that. She got supply from killing her daughter and feeling powerful. Beating the justice system would’ve given her the biggest rush of all.
66 likeswonbadood Was the father abusing her story true? Her father didn’t seem to have any shock or reaction to it..
19 likesthe mom was just as delusional about her daughter.. i remember when this all happened; someone close to the family made a statement in a writeup about this case that two years prior, there had been a family wedding, casey looked pregnant to her and asked casey Anthony's mother about it and she denied denied denied, even stating that her daughter was a virgin...
40 likes@Villanelle They. needed to know how she died, it was clear that she wasn't drowned in the swamp she was only dumped there. So what they needed to do was check how she died, look for and test the body of water that she likely died in and have that as evidence and make up their case as they go. You need a certain amount of deductive thinking to make a good case, something the prosecution was sadly lacking.
17 likes@globalcitizenn Probably lied to keep her alive and this was done probably under the counsel of the defense attorney. That would account for the lack of emotional tell.
5 likes@Omawumi Adokpaye Yes, I know.
6 likesThe sad thing is those type of parents are the ones who thought that their child could do no wrong and now their child is in this MESS and I believe they know their daughter killed their grandchild!!!
26 likesSomeone fact check me on this, but it sounds like Casey's father paid for a defense attorney to spin up a tale about him molesting his own daughter so she could get away with murder.
30 likesParent of the year award, right there...
@wonbadood right?! How could she betray her father with such a lie???
10 likesThe dad is a lil shifty to me...
6 likesYep
0 likes@Villanelle so? She still obviously killed her. What mom sits around for 30 days when there kid is missing and they dont know were she is. Like if my son cant he found for 2 seconds I'm freaking out. So ummm yeah. And u can tell she doesnt care because of how she is talking to 911...then she lies about were Casey is and takes the cops on a wild run around to nothing and no nanny. It's all lies. Odor in the trunk too. And then Casey is found right now the block from her home.
10 likes@tiffymarieseesthetea marie Not another one .. sigh - read the comment I was responding to.
15 likesShe is so distorted! And yes being a Grandma Her parents would do anything for her Granddaughter's Life which unfortunately Casey did not value LIFE!
1 like@Angie T Casey has joined the conversation.
0 likesBut tgen the attention eould have been on her daughter and she will not luve like that
0 likes@Big Dee Wot a troll-like comment.
0 likes@ashton williams What goes around, comes around!
1 likeBIG FACTS!
1 likeHer Ego wouldn’t let her.
4 likesI think Caylee's murder was in part an expression of aggression towards Casey's parents.
1 likein your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
0 likes@azsuter first of all people can and are prosecuted with circumstantial evidence. Every day. Nor do you need a body. This crazy chick is NOT innocent.
17 likes@Marion Harris
4 likesThey messed Casey up and so I really don’t think they would have fared any better with Caylee, sure they wouldn’t have killed her but I doubt she wouldn’t be fucked up.
@Villanelle DNA is hirlously unreliable in comparison to how the general public see it. There has been criminal cases where there is cctv evidence which included the guys face and the jury let him off because the DNA evidence was inclusive. Also there has been a case of serial killer in Europe, which was actually just single murders with contaminated DNA swabs. The duct tape was on the kids skull, if it didn't leave any DNA i'd be suprised
2 likesI don't know about the father, they said there was sexual abuse but I have no idea if that was true since the defense only said that to get her off of the hook.
2 likesI felt the same too. Even her friend would have
0 likes@Georgie you completely missed what the other person was getting at. despite how bad it was explained, i understand what they meant.
5 likeswhile casey looked guilty asf with all the lies, there's was PHYSICALLY nothing that could place her as the murderer, which is why she got away with it. unfortunately according to law, you can't put people in jail bc of a gut feeling and no physical evidence that proves they did it :/
@Blithe I’m a lawyer. But thanks for the insults.
1 like@Georgie what are you talking about??? i never insulted you, but alright ig.
4 likeshave a good day
I would have loved to take her. What a beautiful child, and how horrible that she had such a horrible, evil mother.
3 likesTJ Jordan That's not what happened. Her lawyer brought up the idea and her dad said he wasn't going to go with it. Not sure why he didn't sue the lawyers or his daughter after that for lying and ruining his image which then made it impossible for him to find work for a long time and added to his supposed attempt at suicide
2 likesBlithe She didn't get anything for neglect. There might not be proof she murdered caylee, but there was endless amounts of proof of neglect with what she did the 30 days after her little girl was dead/missing.
4 likesExactly… they seem like they would anyway
0 likesI would have. I think so many people would have given anything to have a little daughter. And she could have had her cake and eaten it too. Her parents would babysit while she went clubbing. But she's so narcissistic she saw her daughter as a rival for the grandma's affection.
1 like@Someone Somewhere I’m currently having infertility problems but this sociopath gets have a child and I cant
2 likesHer father surely would...
1 like@azsuter Casie? Is that you? 😂
1 likeAnd then the father would have tasted all of the family women.
0 likes@TJ Jordan I mean, that's how she got off. Iirc the trial there was no question she died, but the reasonable doubt was who was covering for who. That she like accidentally drowned and they panicked or something. Typing that out, I must be forgetting something it's insane she got off
1 like@Villanelle why were caylees remains found with her Winnie the Pooh blanket which was missing from the home ? It’s just horrible 🥺
0 likes@Austin P my degree is in my office
1 like@Austin P I’m a literal therapist sweetheart
1 like@Austin P I’m off tonight want a session
0 likes@squish y how could she do ANY of the things she did???
0 likes@Georgie I feel like your reading comprehension is lacking. If you were actually a lawyer, that would be a pretty critical failing. I never said you couldn't be tried and convicted with only circumstantial evidence, or that doing so required a body. I just said that there was no direct evidence in this case, which is fact. I also said that the prosecution failed to make their case sufficiently, which is also fact; and is confirmed by the jury's decision. You are clearly the confused one in this case, but thanks for playing.
1 like@Austin P if you read my original statement you wouldn’t feel the need to attack me in the first place. Troll.
0 likes@Georgie I assume it's fictional because anyone can make unverifiable claims on the internet. I'm actually a state senator from Washington writing under a pseudonym. See? That's about as credible as your alleged law degree.
2 likesI think Casey Anthony is guilty, and your opinion in that regard has nothing to do with why I responded to you. Your asinine response to someone responding to one of your previous comments, however, was. I do wish that YT would actually specify which comment is being replied to, in order to avoid misunderstandings like this when dealing with those possessing poor reading comprehension skills.
If you'll note, I've responded to a few other individuals and comment threads on this video, so any feeling of being singled out is purely based on your own imaginings.
Also, it's a Sunday morning, what the hell else am I gonna be doing? It's one of my days off, so I will enjoy it as I see fit.
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0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
But then she's undeniably a terrible mom. Whereas this way she was able to be the center of attention and not demonized. Which didn't work, but she still got off from any charges
0 likesSadly, she would have grown up the same as Casey did though.
0 likesNaa she didn't want her parents to love her daughter more than her
0 likes@The emo user yes!!! Agree!
0 likesThey begged her for custody and she refused.
0 likesI mean.. she would've been safe but when they do things like cover up their daughter's lies and essentially reward it (with an actual false graduation party, mind you), it doesn't seem that they would've been very appropriate caregivers, either.
0 likesThe pain in Cindy's voice. How devastating.
1 likethis video has by far more raw Casey footage than any other video ive seen on the topic. you're right, it is absurd.
0 likesi feel so bad for the grandparents, they try so hard and they love their daughter so much
1 likeim so suprised with what ppl can get away with, with good lawyers
2 likes"Dear Diary, today I killed my kid."
33857 likesJury - "This could mean anything really."
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Underrated comment
862 likesLol
73 likesIt just means that she made a salad with the vegetables she was growing. Duh.
772 likes“Objection! Calls for speculation!”
487 likesThis is so on point
110 likesSuch as: "Today my dear kid had diarrhea & it killed me" lol
88 likesI just love how people always interpret something thats not even there.
Just like people reading books or watch a movie.
" bet they would even interpret things into a childrens book Clifford the big red dog.
On first glance it may seem that its about a dog & his adventures but its actually a in depth analysis of the canine psyche. LMAO XD
Diaries are often not admissible as evidence unto itself.
47 likesHer saying she went through with a big decision and is relieved from it mixed the very specific Internet searches of information of how her daughter was murdered should be enough evidence in my opinion. Let’s put it in a different scenario that people don’t go to jail for. If you search how to steal someone’s burrito and how it plays out and thennn wrote in your diary saying you are so happy you finally ate and went through with a decision and the burrito is found to be proven eaten, everyone would say you ate it case closed. There’s nobody else in the world that wanted that burrito to be eaten, nobody even had access to the burrito except the person who did that search and wrote that down. How is that not enough evidence or even considered to be a CONFESSION. (Disclaimer: Absolutely not comparing a child’s death to a burrito just do not want to use a disturbing metaphor and one that is more of a non serious matter and something more ‘relatable’ so somebody who isn’t even trained in investigation will be able to judge the conclusion as guilty and understand why it’s such blatant evidence.)
365 likesshe must have had phoenix wright as her defense lmao
73 likesliterally
6 likes@Mister Beef Wellington The 3rd what
17 likesLMAO
1 like@Luzilyo Stormchild More like Von Karma, But just like Phoenix to find a way to blame on someone else XD.
8 likesId didnt even say that tho... all her diary said was "this is the happiesy ive been". No mention of caylee... or killing anything.
6 likesIt isn't uncommon to be called to be a juror. It takes being as smart as a box of rocks for them not to dismiss you.
15 likes@SkyTheSuperIntendent you cant see the obvious connection? you must be american to? what was it otherwise then? what about googling suffocation? do you think she was innocent?
32 likes@TheRealM00 The Original yes we can all see the connection.
0 likes@TheRealM00 The Original i never said she was innocent just that what was written in her diary could not be connected to anything without context. It has no obvious connections if u dont know the story or from the view point of the jury, it is possible she was talking about something else. (And jesus christ u went right for the throat didnt u. Why attack who i am? Being american has nothing to do with anything)
18 likes@TheRealM00 The Original also. Hindsight is 2020
5 likes@SkyTheSuperIntendent i tend toi have 20 20 all the time, would make a great detective no doubt, but screw that the laws let me down countless times
3 likes@TheRealM00 The Original its a figure of speech dum dum.
2 likes@AZIA SEITCHER-HAMEL nice one, lmfao, why didn't i think of that?
5 likes@Elle Zuck The prosecution team was pretty shitty to be honest. They didnt point ANY of this out in their closing statements. Just rambled on a about a motive, and you cant PROVE a motive. They CAN prove that Caylee was suffocated and they CAN prove that Casey looked up how to suffocate and they CAN prove that Casey wrote about some huge decision made after the alleged murder date. Regardless of evidence. Shitty prosecution + REALLY GOOD defense = Free Casey Anthony.
50 likeslmao
0 likesWait...who was Cailey's father? How was that never mentioned? Why did she divorce?
7 likes@AZIA SEITCHER-HAMEL first time watching anything like this? Because the grand majority of them are white and are locked behind bars
2 likesmh-hmmm
0 likes@Bailey Harrison Nope,...Double Jeopardy.... Once tried for 1st degree murder, you can't be re-tried for the same, or lesser, crime pertaining to the same case., ie., manslaughter., they cannot even charge her. It would have to be a more serious charge, and I don't know of one.
3 likes"I too love to analyze poetry"
0 likesRight
0 likesMade my day
0 likes@AZIA SEITCHER-HAMEL OJ Simpson he was guilty but the glove didn't fit. no white privilege, just dumb luck.
7 likes@SkyTheSuperIntendent likely over the act of murder itself.
0 likes@Carolyn Lowe i never said she was innocent. I was just saying that her diary never said she killed her kid.
0 likesThe best comment I’ve seen. 😂😂
0 likes@Sonya Harris huh... odd... seems u misinterpreted what i said.
0 likesJury - "this could mean she killed a baby goat!"
1 likeI HAVE ZERO CONTEXT AND I LOVE THIS
1 likeThe jury was composed of English teachers who find meaning in a poem where the author messed up the spelling.
2 likes@Elle Zuck I am sorry to break your "bulletproof" logic, but there is a possibility for everything... If the kid really died by accident, the big decision Casey was talking about could have been that of disposing of the body. I have researched stats about suicides and poisons and killing methods many times, but that certainly doesn't make me a killer. Also, those internet searches were found in 2012, which is 1 year after her verdict. You may have written on your diary that you finally ate the burrito, but she never wrote that she finally "killed her daughter". Something that vague can't be considered as a confession.
2 likes@TheRealM00 The Original Her "suffocation" research was found out a year later her verdict. Aren't you paying attention to the videos you watch? For saying BS like that, you are way worse than an American with a 5minute attention span. You must be BRITISH
11 likesDark humor at it's darkest
0 likescould have been referring to the family goat🤷🏿♀️
1 like@SkyTheSuperIntendent sorry i just keep running into americans, quit a lot of them opver the age of 40 acting and sounding like kids. and sorry to be so stereotypical about it but its too true sadly
1 like@V -yrz or mayb eyou mentione dme on purpose if sop wtf are you trying to say hahaha?
0 likesLol
0 likesThe jury had to have been bought. Worst jury in history.
4 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes@Luzilyo Stormchild
1 likeIf Wright was her defense, he would have purposely failed to get her arrested.
@Mythos Infinite way to ruin my joke man, thanks, appreciate it.
0 likes@Luzilyo Stormchild
3 likesYou can't just accuse me of joke murder so casually, you know. You'll be hearing from my lawyer, Winston Payne, over those slanderous accusations.
@Mythos Infinite lol
0 likesThere's an article with a jury member who, 10 years later, "regrets" not at least finding her guilty of "manslaughter". Are you SERIOUS!? If any jury should be super worried about their names getting out.... it's this jury. Just how!?
5 likes@Luzilyo Stormchild No way. Maya would've been like, "Jesus Chris, I just saw everything she did... not only can we not represent her, we need to make sure the only lawyer she can get is brain damaged.".
1 likeThe Jury concept always seemed dumb to me. Here's a random assortment of citizens with no qualifications deciding peoples fate. They should need to have some sort of law degree to be making decisions about peoples futures like that.
9 likes@fieldy409 100 % agree. "aight we got some guy, he allegedly did a bunch of serously fucked up shit. now who gets to decide whether we kill him or not? how about a bunch of random dudes lmao idgaf"
4 likes@fieldy409 That's the 6th amendment right to a jury of your peers. In this case, it was a random person who made a horrible decision getting a jury of random people who made a horrible decision.
1 like@longbowman I mean at least u demonstrated u dont understand white privilege
1 like@Lukas Goza u realize the REASON OJ was found not guilty is because of white privilege… the entire case turned from the murder of his wife to racism and prejudice in the police force. Multiple jurors said they would have refused to find him guilty due to the overwhelming evidence of racist cops dealing with OJ and the case
2 likes@Kittensss you just called the Justice system in America is fair? LOL I Mean maybe you can say it is slightly fair towards White people but that’s about it-
3 likesHow in the hell is she not in jail...blows my mind that they found her not guilty. 🤯
4 likesThat's called circumstantial evidence. It helps but by itself, it doesn't prove beyond reasonable doubt that she's guilty. Emphasis on "beyond a reasonable doubt". They need concrete evidence admissible to the court during the trial, which they don't have. That's why the jury is forced to declare her innocent. Criminal justice can't be judged by someone's appearance of being guilty. They must be proven guilty or else the US would become some shithole where someone can get someone else punished just by being more influential than the other guy.
1 like@V -yrz not American just from Florida maybe 🤔
1 like@Mad Max well that’s the difference. It depends on who u are in America. If it was a POC this case probably would’ve been shut almost immediately and the court would’ve convicted
1 likebooh Bah actually the top-rated comment ;)
0 likeslegal system is broken when this sort thing happens. It is clear the jurors in this case were complete idiots
3 likesThe jury must not have been provided all the evidence and must feel like the case should be thrown out on them not having all the pertinent evidence to convict but seeing this especially with the internet searches it doesn't leave any doubt.
1 like@Kelton Foster I remember this case and followed it closely. This girl never showed any remorse. Her phone conversations with her parents were available to the jurors. They had plenty of evidence to convict. False statements and obstruction when she was questioned originally. Forensic science determined there human remains her her cars trunk. That's when she was arrested.
7 likes@Mad Max just no. It is not imperative to have ‘concrete’ evidence. You don’t have to have a picture or video of the crime, nor DNA or fingerprints on the murder weapon. That is clearly not the standard.
4 likesYep, and what a crappy use of a tattoo as well, she obviously wasn't concerned about killing her kid at all.
1 likeThe jury has all said they wanted to find her guilty, but the prosecution sucked, so they couldn't. That's the long and short of it.
2 likes@Ethan of the Internet that’s not how this works. It’s not a debate where the judges pick which side does better. Is she guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? The entire world knows she’s guilty. You don’t let a mommy murderer go free because you think ‘the prosecution sucked.’ They were manipulated and duped by the defense lawyer and are embarrassed about it. They should be. That’s the long and short of it.
6 likes@Nicholas Price The prosecution failed to establish how Caylee Anthony died, which is pretty important if you're trying to prove that she killed her child, intentionally or otherwise.
2 likes@Ethan of the Internet And? Why cover up the death of your child, go on a 5-week bender, write about how happy you are in your diary while you’re ‘trying’ to look for her, get a tattoo commemorating your ‘beautiful life’ while ‘trying’ to look for your child, and not say a single truthful thing to the police once you’re caught…you know, if you’re innocent? It doesn’t matter what the exact cause of death is. If I kill someone, but I do a fantastic job of destroying the body where you don’t know how the person died, do I get off on the charges automatically? That’s just a terrible standard.
7 likes@Nicholas Price I'm not arguing that I wanted her to get off or that she didn't kill her kid. I think she did it. I'm pointing out that, legally, they couldn't meet the burden of proof for first-degree murder. They should have charged her with things that didn't require them to prove that she caused the death.
1 like@Ethan of the Internet Sure they did. The fact that even the people claiming that they didn’t meet the burden of proof knows she guilty proves it. Baez manipulated and duped the jury into a false definition of ‘reasonable doubt’.
6 likes@Elle Zuck Because on the diary she doesn't mention why she is happy. She doesn't say it is the Buritto!
0 likes@AZIA SEITCHER-HAMEL i thought it was the Patriarch thingy, but i guess it doesn't apply here...
0 likes😫😂😫😂😫
0 likesLmao
0 likesthis is what blows my mind the most her diary was literally like ‘hey i’m free to live today (the day my daughter went missing- no correlation btw) it was a hard decision but yolo’
3 likes@Mad Max Numerous defendants have been found guilty with the prosecution’s case only consisting of circumstantial evidence. In relation to your last sentence :
4 likesThat’s exactly how the justice system works in the US... with the most influential of all being the government themselves.
Edit : Criminal trials are a game of roulette.
@SkyTheSuperIntendent He’s just pointing out (by way of joke) that even if she confessed he thinks that jury would have given her a pass.
0 likes@Lukas Goza Dumb luck? OJ had a dream team conducting his defence and the prosecution completely dropped the ball.
3 likesHah, funny comment xD.
0 likesThough I would hope an Entry in a diary alone would not be enough to convict
She doesn’t have earlobes.
1 likeTaken out of context btw watch ZL’s documentary on this
0 likes@Elle Zuck on point! Although Medias make her looks like she was starving !
0 likesI still can't believe there wasn't one voice of reason among that jury. Just someone saying, "Look, even if the girl drowned and it was an accident, why wouldn't the mother call an ambulance instead of duct taping her daughter and hiding her dead body? Why would she google about suffocation before the girl died? Why would she party after her daughter died? We know she is a pathological liar, so she will deny everything. There's no doubt she killed her daughter". Had the standards in this case been held, the only way to prove a crime would be having a video of it
5 likes@TheRealM00 The Original the UK? Idk about that. And if she was found guilty of murder 1 she’d get maybe 10 years.
0 likesThis kind of nonsense is why so many other countries don't leave such decisions to some jury of random civilians. I still don't understand why the heck America does this, to this day.
4 likesIt didn’t say that
0 likes@Nicholas Price we are talking about the death penalty though, internet searches or diary entries should not be enough to put someone to death
0 likes@Celery Towers. First, that’s not all they had. Second, I wouldn’t ask for death in this case. That is just one of the possible punishments. You would agree that she should’ve been found guilty, but you just wouldn’t put her to death? I can go along with that.
3 likes@Nicholas Price exactly
1 like@Susanne Collins - car smells like a dead body
5 likes- google search about suffocating a child
- journal hinting it
- misleads the cops
- lies about everything
- didn’t report a missing child
- doesn’t show any emotions towards her kid
Jury: seems normal to me
@SkyTheSuperIntendent - car smells like a dead body
2 likes- google search about suffocating a child
- journal hinting it
- misleads the cops
- lies about everything
- didn’t report a missing child
- doesn’t show any emotions towards her kid
Jury: seems normal to me
@TheRealM00 The Original see... those points are better. But u could not convict her based on the diary entries. My point was the diary entries dont suggest she murdered someone. I was only refering to the diary entries. Like the original comment was. Dum dum.
0 likesUnreal.. her being free is unbelievably stupid. How the heck she didn't even get any convicted and just got away with murder. -_- i wonder if those people behind this investigation, the jury and whoever involved in the shitty part of the case can live their life peacefully after that.
2 likes@treylem3 Though you’re correct, In my mind, as mine opinion,I think that is a STUPID rule. Really, also when some obvious cases gets dismissed by a technicality, and then they can take the case up again, and just fixing that technical problem/.
0 likesThere are often things within the law that doesn’t make sense to me, but it does to the defence lawyers, they must understand something I don’t.
I am actually having trouble with the hole case getting thrown out because of some technical issues also.
@esther fisher i never said she wasnt guilty. Just stating the fact that her diary is NOT a confession like the original comment was trying to say.
0 likesNever skip jury duty. Because Karen will go, and there are a lot of them.
4 likes@ZoltanDeluxe #AlwaysBelieveHer #LenaDunham
0 likessomeone call Phoenix Wright or Makoto in here smh
1 likeBaez: Sure, this might be a confession — but did the state prove it was a confession?
3 likes@Kai K. her car also smelled of death, and she was emotionless and unconcerned, she preferred to smoke weed with her boyfriend instead of calling the cops or actually looking, she had the shittyest prosecutors
2 likesDear diary, today I commuted the worst crime a parent could commit.
1 likeJury: ( picks nose )
Her father was a police officer (there is curruption amongst all ranks) even if her father wanted her in jail, I think he still had something to do with this. The boys in blue never betray each other. She deserves to rot in PRISON not JAIL.
3 likes@SkyTheSuperIntendent It's all in relativity. It never said she didn't kill her kid either.
0 likes@blyt50 my comment was just in direct response to the one posted, that implied it said it and was a confession.
2 likes@Mister Beef Wellington The 3rd
0 likesprobably one of the worst analogies I've ever seen
@Fuck YouTube Thanks. Im really flattered. To be honest, I couldnt have done it without you. Each & everyone of my loyal fans is responsible that Im here today were I am.
0 likesFirst & foremost I wanna thank Jesus & God, which are great friends of mine. Also thank you aunt Carol Ann for buying me my first ever pencil. I still have it to this day. Mind, its only a little stump these days but I still use it to write via an pencil extender.
Im actually headed to a book signing event to sign books for blind people. Since my publisher is very kind & decided to print my book also in the writings for the blind.
Agsin thanks for your inspiring words. I love it when fans write me personally. God bless you ❤
They really failed that little baby. Rest In Peace Caylee
3 likes@Elle Zuck by your logic, I have a rock that keeps tigers away. Know how it works? Well ive got a rock and there aren't any tigers around, so ta-da! It works only $1000 bucks today only,
0 likesYour comment had me rolling 😂
0 likes👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
0 likes@AZIA SEITCHER-HAMEL It’s so nice being white
0 likes@Sebastian S Grow up
0 likesYeah I mean what if it’s a metaphor
0 likes@Mister Beef Wellington The 3rd those books are actually about another psycho girl named Emily Elizabeth who sees giant dogs that arent there
0 likes@J. Bivens juries are not selected by one random person 👍🏼
0 likesShe was just happy she learned how suffocate in such a foolproof nature
1 likeShe could be talking about her inner child. Maybe it’s metaphorical.
0 likesThink about it. You could be sending an innocent person to jail 🤪
LMFAO, I can’t believe this BS.
Exactly how it went
0 likes@Suzanne Vaine I am aware. Glad you agree.
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The jury decided that the 'kid' she killed was a goat.
0 likes1:24
0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
@AMEER Because Alanis Morrisette killed her kid, unfortunately.😰
0 likes@Luzilyo Stormchild wheezed on this one
0 likes@Abdulkader Khojema she apparently didn't know the who the father was...
0 likesNo way
0 likesBruh💀
0 likes@The Ikon Channel Regardless of Interpretation, when your own child has been missing for days and you say that you're having the happiest day of your life, there is little to no room for alternate Interpretations. No person (with an average degree of sense) would admit to murder unequivocally even in their diary. To expect such a thing is ludicrous.
0 likes@Green Chutney I don’t disagree at all.
0 likesLmao
0 likesThis kicks my comments ass
0 likesit's baffling really, maybe they couldn't link her to "homicide" or "manslaughter", but "child abuse" come on.
1 like@Fernando Ferreira crkhed jurors
0 likes@TheRealM00 The Original lol absolutely not, after living in the Uk for 2 years I can confidently say almost every British government institution is totally backwards. The US is way sharper.
0 likes@TheRealM00 The Original if your gonna pick on Americans make sure your spelling is correct my guy.
0 likesToo bad that is not actually what she wrote. That's why they couldn't use that in court.
0 likes@Elle Zuck She didn't write "I'm glad my kid is dead". It was more along the lines of "I made a big decision and I won't doubt my decision" Yes, that could actually mean anything. Also, don't look at my search history. That's some scary shit. I'm confident you would find the weirdest most bizarre searches if you looked at anyone's search history. Like maybe she just watched a murder mystery TV show and was wondering if there was a way to suffocate someone without it being traced.. just for fun. Like I might search "how long until a body decomposes completely" or "Does an icicle make an untraceable murder weapon?" " can suffocation be traced if you don't squeeze or cause bruises around the neck?" "Duct tape suffocation, is that traceable?" hmmm, there is no physical damage to the body. Can it still be traced? I'm about to google if suffocation with duct tape leaves traceable cause of death. does not mean I'm going to kill someone. Her searching that does not make her look good but it isn't proof of anything. Like, match the tear in the duck tape to the roll in her drawer at home and now we have something. Find her car tire tracks in the sand where the body was dumped. Find physical proof of a body decomposing in the trunk of her car (you know they searched that car and must have found nothing, there is no way they didn't search that car.) Find literally anything linking her physically to the murder. They had nothing but speculation. Speculation combined with physical evidence drives a convincing case, not just speculation alone. Like the guy said at the end, we can sit here all day and talk about what might have happened but that isn't proof of anything.
0 likes@Hayles Imagine simping for a woman who murdered her child.
0 likes@Raccman found innocent in the courtroom.
0 likes@Hayles being found not guilty doesn't mean you didn't do it, just look at OJ simpson.
0 likes@Raccman it just means there wasn't enough evidence. You can know in your gut the person is guilty but that does not mean anything. Innocent until proven guilty. You don't have to prove you're innocent but prosecutors have to prove guilt. In this case they can prove she is a lying wack job but can't prove she was guilty of murder. That's why you don't take a case to court with nothing but speculation and circumstantial evidence, because a guilty person might walk away. They needed some hard evidence to prove she was the one who committed the murder and they had none. Like blood on clothes/ tire tracks of her car at the scene/ match the tears on the roll of duct tape in her house. something. In the eyes of the law this girl is innocent and that's all that really matters. There is only one thing worse than a guilty person getting away with it and that is an innocent person getting thrown in jail for life. That's why there has to be no doubt with the evidence given.
0 likesThe fact that she did not seek help from anyone to find her daughter for 1 month and yet got time to get tattoo which mean "Beautiful life" speaks a lot. I really don't get how the defending prosecutors can be so cold though they deep down know who is guilty. This the most baffling judgement
0 likesHOLD UP 🖐🏼 the nanny goes by “xannie” for short 😂 you can’t make this shit up. There definitely were xannies involved in this nightmare but not in the form of a nanny lmao.
1 likeHighly likely she gave the kids xannies and it’s her sick little joke to reference the kids death “she’s with xanny the nanny”
The way Casey’s lawyer dropped like 3 major bombs out of nowhere that made no sense had me rewinding to see if I heard all of that properly
1 likeStarted to watch, and was reading all the case reports, autopsy report and wiki articles. Then i read that she was walking free. I am unable to watch this video more than first 4 minutes.
2 likesCasey's mother: "The car literally smells like a dead body."
7840 likesThe Jury: "Understandable, have a great day."
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Yeah, what a mindf*ck... It's Unbeliavable.
201 likesThat's not actual evidence of anything.
37 likes@Yabba Dabba No, but all her lies, how the interrogation/prosecution unfolded, her attitude and the wholeness of it all surely told another tale.
279 likesI think the jury was both distracted and "gas-lit"(Gaslighted) away from the truth.
@Yabba Dabba tell that to a police officer next time you smoke a joint in your car
175 likes@Yabba Dabba It's evidence that there was a dead body in the car like wtf
156 likesWell 95% of the population including police officers know what weed smells like
12 likesHardly anybody knows what a dead body smells like.
It’s like when someone says yuck this burrito tastes like shit. I’m sure they’re not experienced turd esters. But something tastes bad and it’s a huge exaggeration.
Maybe like mother like daughter.
@Old Ironsides I live in rural Pennsylvania I smell road kill all the time
12 likes@Old Ironsides So you are trying to say she lied about the car smelling like a dead body? Why?
66 likesWhat you just said sounds like such bs. The smell of a dead, decomposing body is said to be very sharp and distinct like no other smell.
I read about the Jruy and apparently they focused on stuff like the prosecutors seemed "arrogant" and "ambitious" and another prosecutor being "robotic" while the defense seemed "warm". WTF were these people thinking.
86 likesShe was too pretty to convict 🙄
21 likes@YTW2015 If that woman is pretty, how the fuck am I still single? lol
29 likes@NeoLegolasSkywalkerStark literally just as the case of OJ Simpson
7 likes@Free the Orcas Not without a body or any other physical leftovers of a body (like blood or decomp fluids) it's not
4 likes@Liz C bummer
2 likesThe cops def searched the vehicle and came up with nothing and that is why that "evidence" was not used.
3 likes@Free the Orcas grandma saying it smells like a dead body in there means nothing. The cops for sure searched and inspected her car and came up with nothing. Grandma just said some stupid shit. People can have some pretty nasty cars, mine is basically a dumpster on wheels.
1 like@Free the Orcas Why would a human smell any different than any other animal? We have all literally smelled a dead animal at one point or another.
3 likes300 million people in this country and somehow every single one of the jurors had an IQ below 50.
16 likes@YTW2015 this is actually proven. prettier people rarely get hefty sentences or conviction
5 likes@Casey Dub Can we not bring politics into this? Please?
15 likes@Old Ironsides Cindy Anthony did later say she was using a figure of speech, but she also has been shown repeatedly lying. Plus she was a nurse for a living, she would know what a dead body smells like. Plus, There are several other testimonies of other friends/family saying the smell was unmistakably a dead body
2 likesI wonder if there is a way to prove from the odor that there had in fact been a dead body in there? ALso I wonder if the father was guilty since he did not doubt her. Was that from fear from her speaking up about him?
2 likes@Dyonysus777 The prosecution tried to let the jury smell air samples from the car, but the judge denied it. Some professional came in at some point to say that there isn't necessarily a surefire way to tell whether odors are a dead body or not.
3 likes@Riley Malloy OK, too bad. It sucks to have such evident evidence in front of you but to be able to do nothing about it. I have seen many detectives that were haunted from such unsolved cases for decades. I think I myself would too. Already I believe this is something I will never forget. Poor little girl. What monstrosity.
0 likes@Free the Orcas It is. Once you smell something dead, you'll never forget that smell.
0 likes@Dyonysus777 There is. They actually used it in the trial but it was a relatively new technology so the jury didn't buy it. It's where you compare the gases present from decomposition of a human body and compare it to the scene of the crime. They found a pretty good match for it confirming there was a dead body in the trunk.
1 likeAbolish juries.
0 likesSomeones sense of smell is hardly evidence, but as to why police didn't investigate an impounded car that belonged to someone related to a potential crime or dissapearance is astonishing. But did the parents just give it back or something? If you pick up your car from the impound and you recognise the smell of a dead body, you would probably not even take it out of the impound without raising some strong opinions, if you're very certain as ex-police, you'd most likely go straight to the bureau to report a potential crime commited with your car.
2 likesI mean that isn't evidence.
0 likes*Googles "foolproof suffocation" the day her daughter dies "drowned in the pool".
10 likesJury: "mere coincidence".
@Casey Dub you know, as a democrat, yes we can make jokes about democrats. However, the vibes you give off are that you think voting trump is not something we can joke about, which is why this comment is a big joke.
5 likes@Peggy Georgette shes.. not attractive though
3 likes@Old Ironsides A lot of people know what a decaying body smells like, there isn't much difference if it's human or animal in how it'll end up smelling.
0 likes@Free the Orcas Even if there was a dead body in the car, it's just circumstantial. All it would prove is that there was a dead body in the car. In order for a guilty verdict you would also need proof of how the body got in the car, how the body became unalive to begin with, and the defendant's involvement with those events.
0 likesSomeone acting fishy and lying a lot, while it certainly is very suspicious, is not enough to convict anyone of anything without any concrete evidence.
@Josh Allen the GOAT To judge from the series about homicide cases I have seen, it often seems close to impossible for the prosecutors and detectives to furnish sufficient proof. Perhaps something is wrong regarding the judicial system? Too many loop holes if you have a "good" lawyer who knows them.
0 likes@Dyonysus777 That's because they're not going to make a series about cases that do have enough proof, as that would be quite boring.
1 like@Josh Allen the GOAT What do you think is the most likely explanation honestly?
0 likes@Free the Orcas so what? perhaps it was a dead rat, how would we know?
0 likes@Free the Orcas Personally I believe that she is guilty, but belief has no place in a court of law. Without any way to concretely connect her with any part of the crime there is simply no way to convict her of the murder.
0 likesA suspect's behavior and truthfulness cannot be used as evidence unless it contradicts concrete evidence they already have. It can only be used to narrow down suspects and lead the investigation team where to look. This is why the detectives try so hard to get a confession out of the suspects in cases like these where they have very little actual evidence to go off of.
@morrow Now you are just making up excuses on her behalf. It was definitely not a dead rat that she kept in her trunk for a month.
0 likesI understand that you shouldn't convict anyone if you can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt but most people agree she killed her and reasonably all the information that we have points to that.
@Free the Orcas you definitely don't have the information that she left the dead kid rotting in the trunk, even if she did murder her. i'm not excusing anybody, a smell just isn't reasonable evidence for that.
0 likesThe prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
0 likes@morrow It is one piece of evidence when combined with other factors. She had her mouth and nose bound with ducktape and was dumped in a ditch within 1 mile of the house. She was transported there somehow. Most likely in the trunk of a car because how the hell else would you transport a dead body?
1 like@MystiKasT They didn't overcharge her. There were several counts: first degree murder, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter. She was found not guilty on all of those counts.
2 likesI think it's fair enough to say they could have had more evidence but I think it's pretty sick how you're all trying so desperately to defend this woman.
0 likesShe shows no compassion or remorse over the death of her child. What she did is at the very least child abuse if not murder.
Caylee's remains were found in a trashbag with ducktape over her nose and mouth. She was murdered.
Who tf you think murdered her?
I don't see it as humane to be so focused on defending the offender when a child is abused or killed.
0 likesYou are not her lawyers. Many of you have said you believe she did kill her little daughter but here you all are defending her. You've got your order and your moral compass out of touch.
0 likes@Free the Orcas multiple pieces of bad evidence don't mount up to good evidence. good evidence stands on it's own. and we need evidence beyond reasonable doubt for a guilty verdict.
2 likesnot guilty does not mean innocent though. I despise her personally and believe she killed her daughter, still I couldn't find her guilty beyond reasonable doubt. highly likely guilty must still result in a not guilty verdict.
@Free the Orcas we are not defending her per se but the legal standard of proof required in order to take away someone's liberty. it's a slipperly slope to lower this standard, it could result in many innocent being convincted down the line.
1 likeThe female prosecutor of the OJ case has a show going over this and the computer at Casey’s home wasn’t processed correctly apparently and they have a person say there was a search about suffocation which could have placed Casey at home alone was missed. So many what ifs and potentially different outcomes in this case…
0 likes@Old Ironsides I mean the Grandfather was a cop and said that it was comparable to a dead body????
0 likes@Free the Orcas I don't know what happened to her, and I don't lose any sleep over it. Just like you don't lose any sleep over thousands of people dying every day in India.
0 likes@NoLord
0 likesThat's such a sick, unfair way of putting it. What you are basically saying is "so what, people die all the time". It's all important but the matter we are talking about is the murder of a 2 year old girl.
@morrow
1 likeShe's the last person to see her daughter alive and the only suspect. She lied to the police which is hiding evidence which is basically consciousness of guilt.
She showed no grief or compassion over the death of her daughter which demonstrates that she doesn't value her life.
She was searching up methods of murdering by suffocation. Caylee was killed by suffocation.
Coupled with the fact that the body was dumped within a mile of the house and the car reportedly smelled like a dead body I think that's actually quite a lot of evidence and pretty much accurately sums up what happened.
However, the detectives and prosecutors probably could have done a more thorough job instead of assuming it was a closed case. I agree with that.
0 likes@NoLord I think everyone here has been fairly mature and made fair points but what you are saying is just such bs.
0 likes@NoLord You're accusing me of racism because I'm talking about the death of a 2 year old girl on a video which is specifically about that. Race was literally never a factor in this discussion. Go get some help man.
0 likesAll the deaths of children are wrong. It's sickening that you're trying to diminish the death of one child by saying "so what, children die all the time and you don't care because you're racist". It's all important.
1 likeI'm not racist. You don't know wtf you're saying.
1 like@Free the Orcas "It is completely normal to obsess about this for decades. I think everyone agrees with that." Why not go pick up trash in your town, if you want to accomplish something real?
0 likes@NoLord Bruh you're being weird af right now. Not cool.
1 like@NoLord If you care about brown babies dying so much more than white babies dying then go do something about it instead of accusing people of racism randomly in the yt comment section.
1 like@NoLord If you care about that so much more than the death of Caylee then you go do it. You're obviously messed up in the head and trying to belittle the death of a little girl. Get a life and some therapy dude.
0 likes@Free the Orcas I think picking up trash is an activity that would suit your intellectual gifts. And it also needs doing, and is a positive step for the world. I'll look for a shabbily dressed person trying to do the right thing, WITH ACTIONS, for once in your miserable life.
0 likes@NoLord Since you don't care about the death of Caylee or this case at all I don't know why you commented on this video in the first place. You're belittling the death of a 2 year old girl. It's sad, sickening behaviour.
0 likesYou're just throwing a temper tantrum and insulting me because you spilled your milk or you threw your toys out of the pram or something. I don't know why tf. I didn't do anything to you.
0 likes@Free the Orcas It is shockingly pathetic to me how everyone is so fixated on Casey Anthony that they can't get over her after 10 years. OJ is jealous of this kind of attention. I already knew my suggestion to try to do something productive would fall on deaf ears. Keep commenting, incel!
0 likes@NoLord It's more pathetic how you're commenting on this video and getting mad and insulting when everyone else is just having a fair discussion.
0 likesLmao, calling me incel now. I think this is what they call self-projecting. I feel sorry for any women who have to deal with you in your personal life.
0 likesYour take is so completely off compared to what everyone else has said. It's basically:
0 likes"so what if one little girl dies because other people die and I'm so angry at all of you for talking about it but I'm a good person because I pick up trash. Eff you!"
Well said, that's exactly right. It's unfortunate sometimes that we end up releasing guilty people too. I'm in the camp that believes this is one of those cases.
1 like@Hayles Actually, it does have a distinct smell. It doesn’t smell like any other animal decomposing, which is why the grandpa’s time in the police force would help him identify it. Most people smelling something like that would just think it’s a bad smell, since their mind has nothing similar to connect it to.
0 likes@Lonewolf Therapy please stop using the term gaslit.
0 likesDeny it if you want, sheeple! Some sheeple will call me crazy but at least I'm not a sheeple!
0 likesTom McDonough taught me mental strength in the face of the sheeple!
@Yabba Dabba it is evidence, its just circumstantial evidence.
0 likesYeah i was so damn confused when the 911 operator just kinda brushed passed that and asked to talk to casey..
0 likesNot to mention the part where they say the her father also noticed the smell and said it was similar to what he’s experienced on the police force. or it was something along those lines at least.
0 likes@Old Ironsides that doesn’t explain the why her father who was a police officer who probably did experience it himself, also said that it smelled like a dead body. Your statement is irrelevant
0 likes@Righteous Nacho First, Why do you tell me what to do?
0 likesSecond, That term fits very well, if you know what it really means.
Edit;
Well, i could use the word manipulated instead, but as i remember this case, that term is in no way misused, both blame-shifting and "gaslighting" was in play here.
Either way, i don't intend to revisit this video atm.
Happy holidays and Marry Christmas.
@Yabba Dabba It’s evidence to anyone with a sane,reasoning mind.
0 likes@Old Ironsides You're right she was probably just transporting a Amorphophallus titanum (corpse flower) in full bloom.
0 likes@Kris B are u saying ppl don't get convicted on circumstantial evidence? Tell that to Scott Peterson. Ppl get convicted for lying to the police, acting wrong after their kid or spouse goes missing, weird lies that don't make sense, etc all the time. She got away with it simply cuz she's pretty. A lot of pretty school teachers got slaps on the hands for sleeping with students, child rape, simply cuz of beauty, while ugly women or men get years for the same crime.
0 likes@Old Ironsides her father was a cop, thats why he recognized the smell of a decomposing corpse in the trunk.
0 likesOne person testified that they didn't smell the decomposition odor and the jury ran with that. Multiple cans of Febreeze were used on the car. The prosecution didn't point out that not everyone has the same sense of smell.
0 likes@Yabba Dabba The fuck that isn't evidence. Pizza and corpses don't smell the same
0 likesAn injustice such as this makes me root for vigilantes.
1 like13:41 I did the exact same thing at 18. Serial truancy and lies, dropped out. Although I don’t get why she didn’t bother to act upset.
0 likesto this day ive never been more angered at a trial verdict
1 likeGood job defense attorneys for tricking the jury! Discussing!
0 likesCasey Anthony was at a bar near me in west palm beach last weekend and someone threw their drink at her. She called the police. Interesting that she can call them that quickly when her life is in danger and not her daughter.
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i’m surprised she still decides to leave her house! where was this located?
114 likesI read in the news that she and the other woman were arguing about a man they were both dating 🙄
34 likesRight. You can't even die from a drink being thrown on you. Now a bottle...
20 likesAlso it was water! She called the police because someone spilled water on her!!! But it didn't dawn on her to call the police when her daughter was "missing". What a truly terrible excuse for a human being
118 likesThat’s wild. I still can’t believe she is “free”
37 likesjust read an article about that after googling “where is casey anthony now”
19 likesI read that some water was spilled on her leg and the argument started bc both women were fighting over the same guy
7 likesWell that's a bit ironic! Remember when the narrator says when its something about herself she reacts in a different way. I wonder how she thought she would get away by not even reporting her daughter missing for 31 days. Despicable woman!
16 likesI want to send flowers to the lady that did it lol
22 likes@taylor dugey west palm beach. She lives here and has a sort of “anti” paparazzi dedicated on making it as hard as possible for her to show her face in public.
51 likes@Craig Lasch I hate to say it but I love that. That’s karma.
26 likesThanks for the update 👍🏼
4 likesI was fucking shocked inside. She expected to get away with it and it worked
2 likes@Aiymzhan N imagine the tinderprofile: "im average/good looking and disposed my dead child that i absolutly did not kill in the swamp. lets hook up!"
3 likes@Lando r just shows how messed up the justice system is. If she can get away with it, imagine all the people in prison for something they didn’t do. The jury couldn’t think for themselves and where manipulated.
5 likes@cliff’s notes right? Give her a medal or something
0 likes"fear of the unknown" - you know she's lying when she's self-diagnosing her own psychology.
0 likesOf all the true crime I watch and JCS's videos, I can't seem to make it through this one. It's too frustrating knowing this piece of shit is free. I made it almost half way through this time.
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I watched through the first time but can't make it through the scumbag's defense argument. It's altogether vile.
0 likesI couldn’t even imagine knowing your own daughter took the life of this innocent little girl
0 likesThe interview where she's just agreeing with everything the detective says is so creepy and unsettling to me.
1 likeShe answers questions just like a career politician.
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many career politicians are sociopaths...
71 likes@John Smith True
6 likesthis comment is even more terrifying than the whole video
16 likesIn another life, Casey would’ve made for a great politician lol
9 likes@John Smith damn you're so enlightened
2 likesThis person is like a caricature. The type character in a movie that you criticize for being a 1 dimensional villain.
1 likeIt’s frightening the way the lies roll off her tongue with such ease
1 likeThe single most nauseating crime case, because she got away with it. Baez did an excellent job, unfortunately.
0 likesImagine having a sociopathic, narcissistic, lying, cold blooded daughter who gets pregnant and wants to put the baby up for adoption but the parents are like NOPE. You're keeping it. It's almost like you could see it coming. Yet she still gets away with it
0 likesHer friend loved that child more than that mother ever did
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She really did and it breaks my heart
557 likesSo strange...RIP BABYGIRL
126 likesShiii, I think I did too.
119 likesYou can actually hear the pain in her voice in comparison to the mother's.
469 likesI really hope her friend is okay, you really could hear the love and pain in her voice when she said it would kill her if anything happened to the little girl. so sad.
350 likesSo true. Can you imagine how she felt when she heard Casey talk shit about her on that jail call?!
183 likesThat was Lee's girlfriend and I think wife now
10 likesI RUIN YOUR COMMENTS I need that in my life
3 likesSociopaths only love themselevs and are skilled manipulators to a degree most people can not imagine or even be aware off.
19 likesUnfortunatly i know all to well how sociopaths work as i was in a relationship with one for 7 years and she is so like this women its scary ..
Thank god i got out when i did .
Geez I feel like I loved that child more than Casey did
17 likesIf she didn't want her child so bad, why disnt she jist give the little girl up for adoption or hell even just allow the friend to raise her daughter. SMH.
12 likesshe did it. No mother would be that happy through everything like that.
5 likesand the friend showed way more heart so true.
1 like@Not very cancer patient God will take care of her
2 likes@𝓛𝓪 𝓛𝓾𝔃 strange?? It’s called being a psycho path
3 likesCalling that thing a mother is an insult to ever mother on earth
8 likesDo not call her a mother!
4 likesIt's offensive to every MOTHER out there!
Yea tbf I think everyone in this comment section loved that kid more than she did
4 likesWhat if the mother is so hurt that she is numb that her daughter is gone? And what if she has been avoiding the pain on purpose because that's a response people can have when they mourn??? You wont be seeing much emotion for her daughter for good reason.
0 likes@Marker Anything you don't understand just assume it to be something malicious. No honey, this is not how the justice system works.
2 likesHer mom was so in denial that her daughter was a fraud smh if she was my daughter I would have let her rot in jail. Its obvious she didn't get discipline from her parents for lying. smh
6 likesA family of no emotions
0 likesThis!!!!!
0 likessame with her entire family, it just seems like casey doesnt care
2 likes@Amber Slahlize casey Anthony sympathizers kill me. If she didn’t kill her or at bare minimum know something about her whereabouts why did she lie
4 likes@Ashley Carey Well the feeling is mutual for both sides.
0 likesAnd the answer might just be as simple as fear.
@Amber Slahlize Utter nonsense. Nothing in the world can justify a behaviour like that. The entire time she was emotionless when talking about her missing daughter, and the only thing that she was worried about was herself.
10 likesGoing to dance in a hot body contest three days after you daughter's death isn't a sign of depression or sorrow, it's not anger. We aren't talking here of a failed exam or a lost job: your daughter just died but you go partying and in your diary, that no one else is supposed to open, you write you've never been that happy.
And the very same day your daughter disappears, you search on the internet for "Foolproof suffocation"? What a coincidence, uh?
Come on, be serious.
I can guarantee you, in Europe she would never have the slightest chance to avoid the jail.
@Steve Null Just because you didn't see her emotions, doesn't mean they weren't there.
1 likeAnd just because she is stressed with her own situation to the point of tears doesn't make her cold-hearted.
What parent wouldn't care about going to jail (because they were suspected of murdering their child) because they only cared about finding their lost child?
That's not natural.
It's more likely for them to plead innocent, obviously.
So, no, she wasn't behaving as an uncaring parent.
Do people seriously expect her to not care about being arrested for murdering her child to prove that she is innocent of not murdering her child?
This is an asinine position that so many people have taken.
As for her partying, where do people get this information from?
And I'll be honest, it's odd for someone to search something like that, and if she did write such things in her diary, it's a little weird, but not enough to convict someone with murder.
Lets say for the sake of argument she is guilty of murdering her daughter - *there is no proof*.
You can't convict people of a crime without proof.
pretty sure thats admissible in court as a danger to society
1 likeI knew from the start this monster took that beautiful angels life. Her friend would of took care of her but instead she decides to kill this angel baby and then go partying. I was so sick to my stomach when this came over national news. Makes me sick she got away with this. Nobody should ever call her mother and I hope to God she doesn't ever have another child with her bullshit freedom.
2 likes@Steve Null Are you sure they are looking this information up because they were trying to kill someone?
1 likeSee, that's an accusation you are making, not pointing out evidence.
"Life is beautiful" isn't evidence of murder either.
FR
0 likesyea i noticed that too :(
0 likes@Hana Behl-Lecter no that was a different person her best friend was Christina and the other was Kara or something
0 likes@Amber Slahlize "Are you sure they are looking this information up because they were trying to kill someone?
3 likesIf someone else would do it, I wouldn't jump to such a conclusion.
Sadly her baby died that very day, and it's too much of a coincidence.
Because none of these fact, in itself, would prove anything, but if you look at the whole picture, then everything has its place in the whole story.
It may well be that there are no evidences, no smoking gun and that the sentence is perfectly in order, it doesn't change the fact that she murdered her baby.
And I can tell you that in most of Europe she wouldn't have the slightest chance to avoid the jail: sure, for every little fact you can find a plausible explanation, but the whole picture is crystal clear.
@Steve Null I still have to disagree with your conclusion, but your premise on the matter is accepted and I can even appreciate it.
1 likeI guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
@Amber Slahlize If it looks like a goose, walks like a goose, flies like a goose, sounds like a goose, then it's almost certainly a goose.
2 likesHave a nice day.
@Tanel Viil speak for yourself 🤪
0 likesI bet she sold her.
0 likes@Drink Your Nail Polish She tried to give her daughter up for adoption, but her parents apparently forbade her.
0 likesI cried for her not for Casey
0 likes@Asdfs Sadfd as a father I couldn’t maintain again my children at 3 would just run up and hug me how do you hurt that.! That’s the worst kind of person.
0 likesthe search dogs cared more about little Kaylee than the be'achie who birthed her...what we would have given to have a child of our own....but infertility destroyed everything...I'm 69 yrs old and I still cry my heart out, longing for a child
0 likesand her mom discarded her like trash
The look in her eye and that sly grin , just portrays an image of the epitome of evil . Karma will get her .
0 likesOne of the biggest blunders in law enforcement and justice
0 likesI can't believe how her parents walk on egg shells with her. I sincerely wish her brother Lee would speak up.
0 likesOMG she’s so articulate when she’s lying and making shit up!
0 likesCasey: says any name
4814 likesNarrator: This person does not exist.
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LMAOO
45 likesJuliette Lewis is an actress
46 likes@Parallel Bones
12 likesYup!
You tell them Micky and Mallory Knox did it!!!
@Wetta Loca and next thing will be that her daughter had spoken to a man by the name of sam L jackson while they were at the petrol station
17 likes💀
4 likesexcept for poor Jeff..
6 likesJuliette Lewis made me laugh…..
2 likeslmfao 💀😭
0 likesSo you took caylee?
0 likes@Kyce Essadki I love your comment. Good one
0 likes@Sparrow Poor Jeff who got subpoenaed on his day off and had to testify against this bullshit
4 likes😂😂😂
0 likesClick: this person obviously isnt real
1 likeAnd a woman by the name of Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez does exist but she had never met Casey, Caylee, Cindy, George or Lee and had never worked as a babysitter.
0 likesIn situations like these we need a lie detector, it must be mandatory.
1 likeI have gone through the most beautiful moments in my life. Buying a house, marrying my loving husband, having my daughter, becoming a US permanent resident, paying off 2 vehicles, soon I’ll give birth to my son who will be my last baby. The only next best thing after that, will be the day Casey Anthony dies and Caylee’s memory is never tainted by her presence on this earth ever again.
0 likesFly high beautiful Caylee. You will never be forgotten.
Sociopaths can sometimes actually outsmart the law.
1 likethe call with the mother continues to ask to look in her eyes. my momma always did that to me and my siblings dk how a mother always can tell when her child is lying by looking in their eyes it always freaks me out!!
0 likesI followed this case from day one, up until she was acquitted. I remember sitting there, in shock. Casey Anthony is an absolute monster. And she’s walking free, among us. That is highly disturbing.
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I was screaming at my tv. I sickens me to this day. That baby girl got no justice 😢
27 likes@DinkleDigeroo I too, wish that this would happen. Statistically speaking, it would spare us poor souls on the other side of the wall from the lion's share of child abuse, since all of the priests would be free to rape children and be protected by their respective churches. I don't think I have ever seen a statement so soaked in unintentional irony before, it's absolutely comical.
26 likes@Dainsleif she said Christians, not monsters who manipulated the organization into an abusive position of power.
8 likes@Dainsleif ive enjoyed all of your comments on this video haha
2 likesLiving in the UK I never heard about this case, but after spending the last hour watching this video I feel physically sick she faced absolutely no justice.
14 likesher lawyer was just about as twisted as her.
7 likesbut what about the little girl ?
1 likeWas there an investigation to find out what happened ? was it sort of sent to the cold cases or case closed ?
i'm shocked by the verdict
@Mellow Yello So, Christians...
11 likesBeing a Christian does not afford you magical moral high-ground. You are just as accountable for your actions as anyone else. Anyone who can be complicit in an organization that systematically abuses children, murders indiscriminately, and condemns millions to an eternity of suffering, simply for being born in the wrong geographical region never ceases to astonish me. In light of globalization and historical education, I'm shocked that one's Christian faith hasn't yet become something to keep secret.
I doubt she'll hurt anyone else tbh
0 likes@DinkleDigeroo Yeah only Christians have sound morals...
1 likeThe day they released her from the jail here..traffic was backed up roads shut down..they snuck her out the back in fear for her life and she was never seen again.
2 likes@Angie T it's hard to find another group that allows it's members to be forgiven for sinning in the past and any in the future
0 likesSuperBeefz What about the little girl is an excellent question. Bluntly, her story ended and nobody in power ever gave a damn.
1 like@Dainsleif I wish I could express myself about religion as eloquently as you do, you've said it all in very few words, respect.
0 likes@Kevin w If you really need a citation to indicate the preponderance of child abuse in religious institutions at this point in time, I really don't know what to say to you.
0 likes@Nikola And how well has that worked out so far?
0 likesCaylee went swimming in the pool often. She was always escorted - usually by her Grandmother Cindy. Caylee also habitually wore inflatable arm floats which kept her from drowning when she dove into the pool. There are numerous photos of Caylee playing and diving in the pool with her arm floats. Caylee also knew how to open the sliding glass door which led to her backyard play area and pool. She even had her own play mailbox in the yard - and Caylee enjoyed "checking her mail" frequently to see if anyone left her a treat. There are photos (presented in Court) of Caylee opening the sliding glass door. It's easy to connect the dots ... Caylee dove into the backyard pool thinking that she would stay afloat ... unfortunately she neglected her arm floats. Casey kept her mouth shut because she was traumatized and was protecting other people in the home.
1 like@Eric Wood I agree. There is no such thing as a perfect system. However, if we follow the rules of this system absolutely, then her freedom is the correct result. She absolutely knows exactly what happened to Caylee.
0 likesThe prosecution should have pushed for Felony Murder, not Murder One. And they should have sought a lesser penalty that the ultimate penalty. I believe if that were the case, Casey would never see the light of day again.
Yep I live a few miles from her parents house. NO ONE around here speaks her name nor do they ever want to hear it again. I’ve seen her parents in Target (strange feeling). Most of us have been hoping to see Casey in Target one more time...She’s too smart for that.
4 likesLi’Maren Kudaibergen Ok I’m British and I remember this case and in the U.K. we all knew she was guilty it was OBVIOUS ffs...so I’m baffled how she got away with it.
1 likekarl bristow oh I remember it on bbc news and how most of UK knew she was guilty... it’s so obvious.
1 likeDinkleDigeroo I saw a comment today on Facebook about a similar situation as this
2 likesTl/dr: man gets 40 years for smuggling hundreds of lbs of weed, mother gets 1 year in prison for murdering her baby.
The comment said “the govt will punish you harshly for committing the sin of making money without giving them a cut, but a slap on the wrist for infanticide because the child has not yet been able to produce for the system, so no money is being lost”
@Jem Are there any similar documentaries about this case? Can you share any links to videos or literature?
0 likes@Dainsleif Check out Stephanie Harlowe here on YT or search the Ken and Barbie killers. There's plenty of documentaries and books and even a movie about the case. It's disgusting what Homolka got away with.
1 like@Jem Thanks!
0 likesAlberta Villa, you bought the story, eh? All Casey did was keep her mouth shut? That’s it? Yeah, okay.
0 likesWomen are rarely convicted, and serve less time for the same offenses as men. Not shocking at all.
0 likes@Dainsleif I won't make light of the abuses of "religious" organizations, although I call into question why individuals that have no part in them should feel ashamed. Every people group in the world falls into the griever category, as murder/rape/torture/pedophilia/slavery/injustice/war has been a staple of the human race since the beginning. Doesn't make any of it right, but it's the reality of our condition.
1 likeNow, I think that these "priests" and people in high places should be held to a higher level of scrutiny and responsibility for their actions. Frankly speaking, their lives should be forfeit for the damage they've done and continue to do. And until they are held accountable, they do damage to not only themselves but to the "god" they say they serve. But I for one will not be made to feel guilty or be silenced about my own faith. Which has nothing to do with them. Peace.
@Dainsleif We'll both know one day
0 likes@Li’Maren Kudaibergen jesus ... i'm speechless ...
0 likesSuperBeefz, speechless about what?
0 likesSuperBeefz, oh okay. And in a later interview, when asked what happened to Caylee, Casey said nothing about a drowning. She needs to be in prison. I’m just sick that she is out and free. It makes me sick to my stomach.
0 likes@SuperBeefz , I’m sure she went through medical examination, I would be interested in hearing what the results were. She clearly has issues. I don’t understand the verdict at all. They bought that she drown, and Casey was out partying damn near every night. If that was my child, I would have immediately called 911, holding her body until they arrived. Hell, they probably would have had to pry her from me. The way she threw her father under the bus, just shows what kind of person she is. I didn’t buy that, nor was there proof. Of course not, it’s Ms Liar Anthony. That case will stay with me, as a horrible injustice to that beautiful baby girl.
0 likes@Autumn Fragrance So just let's ignore all evidence in the car, the duck tape placed on her face to suffocate her, and the fact that the mother didn't call 911 for a drowned child.
0 likesYeah, you are right, she drowned.
She reminds me of my mother in a sense 80% of what comes out her mouth is BS and growing up with it you get pretty good at spotting liars.
0 likesUsually the detectives take it slow but Melich and Allen were GOING IN ON HER
2 likesJust how did she get away with it? Whom else had a motive to murder her daughter?
1 likeI feel so bad for the people Casey dragged into this for no reason
0 likesWatching her talk to her parents in jail and hearing her tell her father that he had been a wonderful father and grandfather and then turning around and calling him a child molester in court
1615 likesThat is fucking heart breaking
That woman truly is a monster
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She was in prison! She had to play nice with her parents despite knowing her dad was an abuser who probably cause Caylee's death.
6 likes@Chad Zeller wow chad. 🤦🏻♀️
202 likes@Kayla Escobar that is prolly Casey with a dummy account
189 likesThey just made random accusation that her dad sexually abused her when she was a child (with no supporting evidence or any kind of proof). For the same person she admitted herself to be the most wonderful father one can ever have. She sure is a disgusting person that got the benefit of doubt. I feel sorry for her family and friends and for Kaley who had to die either because of her moms negligence or cold hearted murder. Rip Kaley
97 likes@Chad Zeller you have to be trolling man
46 likes@Peyton Alexander Chad man be the only person defending Casey in every comment. Haha! Definitely a troll or maybe Casey herself? 🤮
44 likes@Chad Zeller That makes no sense at all
8 likes💯💯💯
1 likeAnd such a graphic accusation as well wtf
7 likes@That One Guy From Teen Titans Who is Really Robin He did have it STOLEN. Result will be overturned by the end of the month. COUNT on it.
3 likes@Zain Shahid how could there be any proof to that lol. just because she is a bad person and lied about a lot of stuff it doesn't mean that she necessarily lied about that one too. in sexual assault accusations there's barely proof, therefore you always have to choose the side you are on: the alleged assaulter's or the alleged victim's. you are choosing the assaulter's
2 likes@Chad Zeller aight i'll be back on this thread in a month and we'll see
2 likesThat was part of the defense’s strategy to portray the whole family as deeply dysfunctional. Baez also had Casey’s brother take a DNA test to see if he was the father of Caylee. I assume Baez knew that the brother was not the father, but he was doing everything he could to demonstrate to the jury that the whole family—not just Casey—had serious issues.
6 likes@Chad Zeller he literally had nothing to do with the death, SHE WAS THE ONE THAT KILLED HER
7 likes@M what about her mom, ofcourse she can verify such accusation or a close family relative...and about what you said me choosing the assaulter's side, I'm not sure what's that supposed to mean since I'm only on Caley's side (the real victim in this case) I'm just not naive enough like you to buy whatever lie the defence has to say just to make her look what some sort of a victim 👎
0 likeseven the court find the accusation completely baseless and a desperate effort just to gain some sympathy from the jury and asked the jury to not even consider this accusation in making the decision
@Elyza Faith Reyes i think it's Casey herself defending That's disgusting and cold
3 likes@Chad Zeller ridiculous your response
2 likes@Tyler Satterfield and, shockingly enough, this worked. He successfully turned a CHILDS MURDER CASE into an abused adult who is so broken she HAD to eliminate her own daughter.
6 likesYeah.. .so broken she was over here partying and NOT supporting her child, leaving her grandparents to take care of baby.
Btw, if your father really abused you as you claim, why in the HELL are you willing to let them care for your daughter and risk it happening to her?!?!
This world is wild.
@Steph Severe 👏👏
1 like@Steph Severe well said also no parent would go out participate in a "Hot Body Contest" after such tragic event...Indeed this world is wild
3 likesShe's lucky she got a stupid jury and a smart lawyer
@MrGlennJohnsen @MrGlennJohnsen you covered alot of aspects for why she might have done such a crime... And I completely agree with you whatever her mental state was she either did it herself or had part in it, I'm not a psychologist but even if she had something wrong with her mental state such heinous crime can't be ignored she should either be institutionalized or put behind bars. But in both cases she should not be allowed to walk freely in the society
0 likes@Chad Zeller
1 likeThis guy was probably one of the jury 🤡🤡
the key word is HAD past tense been a wonderful grandfather!!!!!!,she is a sociopath and lied her way out of it PERIOD
2 likesThe jury and the prosecution fucked this case. Asking for the death penalty is tough for a jury, especially in this situation. When you're sentencing someone to death, you want to be absolutely 1000 percent certain that the person did it.
4 likesLet's be honest here, if a child accidentally drowned, and you were afraid that you would get in trouble for child endangerment, there's no need for duct tape to the nose and mouth. It's what you would do if you're trying to bind/suffocate/restrain a person. Aside from the duct tape, the only thing else they have her on the hook for is all of the lying. Which they in fact charged her. With that being said, I just can't see how you leave that courtroom thinking that everything was okay there. Making up all of these stories, defamation of another person's character (the nanny) and so on, is straight up deceptive and they let her get away with it. I can't imagine seeing all of this and being like, yeah, she deserves freedom.
If there were a lesser punishment, (not a death sentence) I feel like there would have been a better chance of a guilty verdict. Prosecution overplayed their hand, and let a most likely guilty person go free.
1:06:45 That moment you have to try to make it seem like you are vindicatex and not that you are trying to suppress your absolute delight that once again you have escaped all consequences.
0 likes29:55 - she slips into past tense when talking about her 'missing' daughter then catches and corrects herself.
1 likeCold blood murderer and a pathetic liar. This is such a ridiculous case that I suspect a jury has been hypnotized or something, otherwise, it's hard to explain.
0 likesIve watched this twice in past couple days and other videos related to it. Such a crazy case
0 likesCasey: I entrusted her to my nanny, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, a half black, half Puerto Rican girl, who moved down from New York to Florida to study Viticulture and Oenology, amidst the separation of her parents Victor and Isabella and whom was connected to me through our mutual acquaintances Jeffrey Hopkins and Juliette Lewis...
2804 likesJodi: I kicked a dog once. His name was... Doggy Boy.
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Yh i died a little with that doggy boy shit.
153 likesTruly despicable that casey was not found guilty, especially with all the 'suffocation' searches.
170 likesDoggyboi: ayo that's cap....
66 likes😂😂😂
1 like@Glennfield89 I can't fathom why the prosecution didn't push that further, unless they tried and it just didn't stick... of course i'm not privy to the inner workings of the DA and prosecutors where this took place, so I really don't know what they did exactly, but I didn't hear it mentioned in the closing statement shown. If they had the searches, they had the time of the searches. Which means they could have tied it directly to the time she claims her child drowned in a pool. This whole thing blows my mind... and shows just how easy it is to project what you're doing onto someone else to draw the attention from yourself. That defense attorney is a master at manipulation.
25 likes@Glennfield89 Wait... I'm 10 minutes in and struggling to comprehend how she isn't going to be found guilty besides an insanity plea. What did the defence say? "Well yes she lied about every single thing, but you don't have a body so hah sucks to be you prosecutor!"
23 likes@Glennfield89 female privilege
17 likes@Amalaric GoTH too right
0 likes@mark
26 likesNo, middle class White female privilege because no other group of women could get away with this.
@Barnesofthenorth She was only jailed for lying to the police. Jury acquitted her because of lack of proof beyond reasonable doubt. 4 counts of lying with 1 year sentence each, of which she "served" around only 3 years due to good behavior. I remember jury regretting it but they couldn't do anything. It sucks.
4 likesWhich Jodi are you talking about Jodi Aries?🤣
7 likes@Bob Bin yes lmaoooo
2 likes@mark White , young, attractive, middle-class privilege. Don't forget that the first person Casey accused was a Ms. Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, a Woman of Color. Racism was her Plan A and her Plan B was to make herself the child victim so everyone would forget about Caylee. Black women get convicted of child endangerment for leaving their kids home alone while they're at work or for leaving them in the car during a job interview. "Female privilege" is only a thing if you have every other type of privilege, which would make it pretty circumstantial.
22 likes@Jessi @level up The main reason she was acquitted was because she’s a female, her race didn’t really make a difference. Men of all races make up the majority of prisoners in America. Men of all races get much harsher sentences than women for the same crimes.
5 likes@Jessi According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP), 93.2 percent of federal inmates are men, and only 6.8 percent are women. According to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) in 2018 Black males accounted for 34% of the total male prison population, white males 29%, and Hispanic males 24%. White females comprised 47% of the female prison population in comparison to Black females who accounted for 18% of the female population.
5 likes😂
0 likes@Jessi Okay then compare the rate at which black females get incarcerated to black males. I’m sure you already know, black males get incarcerated at a way higher rate.
5 likesMen get incarcerated at higher rates than women.
LMAOSKJSKSJK
0 likes@Йордан Васев yessss!
0 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likesi’m
0 likes@mark You said it yourself the prison population right now is 93% male and 7% female. Unless you think that over 80% of women get away with it you can tell there's a big difference there even if we account for bias.
2 likes@Fuh Q because it’s absolutely brilliant 😂
0 likesI need to find him and apologize 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesHahaha
0 likes@Amalaric GoTH
1 likeIntersectional feminists talk about this shit all the time. Ya'll just aren't listening.
Lmao 😂
0 likesJuliette Lewis kills me every time 😆
0 likes💀 Jodi
1 like🤣 just watched that yesterday
0 likesAHAHAH
0 likes@Black Hole Sun When she said that name all I could think about was The Other Sister😂
0 likesJennifer: My baby owns a baby and she sure loves that baby
0 likesJodi should apologize to Doggie Boy
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣 clapback to Jodi
0 likes@Jessi I don't think she had much of a plan to start with I've met people who lie like this they just make stuff up as they go along
0 likesI am stunned that she wasn't convicted... I have no words.
1 likeWow I really thought she was found guilty, strange how forgettable she makes herself
0 likesEven if it was reasonably doubtful that Casey killed her daughter, she should’ve at least been charged with child neglect or child abuse
6498 likesNot saying that I doubt she did it, it’s just that you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to arrest someone for murder and she didn’t get arrested for murder
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@rosaaa putony true :(
22 likesI think you meant covicted of. She got charged for worse.
62 likesI don't know the details, but from what Ive seen I think the prosecutors failed by not dismissing well enough the defense's argument. They're argument is "Casey killed her daughter because she didn't report it for 30 days", but if the defense is arguing that the father killed the child and she simply hidden the information then the argument of murder is off, unless you manage to debunk the defense's argument.
37 likesOf course that would still constitute a crime as an accomplice, but I don't think they charged her for that.
totally normal human. absolutely no ennard hiding inside
9 likesIs this what they mean by white privilege 😭 cos I’m seeing it rn
58 likes@Goingby20s Excellent point!!! yours is a highly underrated comment!!
3 likes@Throbbing Fellow I think if this were a BIPOC man, who behaved as CA did with the false statements, drinking, smoking weed, night life, etc., the guy would have got the death sentence for this crime.
25 likes@SB I get what you mean; in so much as this was about a young, moderately attractive, white, female. The point so many are putting forth is that the outcome of the trial would likely have been much different had the defendant displayed the exact same behaviour as the defendant had, Just ask yourself (indulge me a bit, won't you?); if you were in the exact same circumstance as the defendant, would you rather have been a young, white woman with a "gift" for spinning tales or a young. Black male?? Can you take just a moment and answer honestly in which supposition would you feel more confident in possibly giving you the best chance at an acquittal?
10 likes@Alice Tully-Hall
13 likesI'm not american
Racism like this looks alien to me
Can't relate
I honestly don't understand why they dropped the charges of child neglect. I'm sure the jury would have found her guilty of child neglect. If they couldn't even determine how the baby died nor the timeline, they shouldn't have dropped that charge.
10 likes@rosaaa putony people cant be charged without evidence.🤨
1 likeWhat’s so crazy is that the jury was expecting some csi crap, she was the last person to be with kaylee, had no remorse about her child missing although mostly circumstantial evidence I think the jury failed to understand that this is allowed to be used as evidence in court, we don’t need to see the car crash to know that it happened. This women legit got away with murdering her child and she acts like Diane downs.
18 likes@Alice Tully-Hall sadly they need to prove intent to help with the murder for her to be convicted of being an accomplice.
4 likesnice try tho'. maybe obstruction or impeding an investigation, that way all that runaround and inventing nanny etc can be entered as evidence for that charge. if she gets convicted of that they have greater ability to dig and use more evidence for future charge.
prosecution should've started with obstruction/impeding charge then escalate it to abuse/manslaughter charge. murder is very very hard to prove. that way they take all diversionary tactics like "daddy touched me" away from defence.
@Alice Tully-Hall on another topic, i can relate to SB totally. my european country was in league with african and asian nations during the cold war (independent league of nations) and our moto was "brotherhood and unity". that is what i have known for most of my life. i have only heard about racism from history and philosophy classes as some distant falacy of wayward americans that nacionalist socialist party adopted into its creed.
5 likesinstead of us immersing ourselves into racism how about y'all learn about facts that there is only one race of mankind. the human race. other races of man went extinct (like neardenthals). skin colour is the result of exact same process as eye or hair colour. i don't see anyone being racist to grey eyed people...
lets learn more about the good and just enough about bad to not propagate it, ok?
I think it was an all or nothing type deal
1 like@Badgal Kia
4 likesWhich do you think is correct?
1. Everything is about color of skin in 90% of cases
2. Corruption and bad judges in 90% of cases
3. Comparable mix of both
@Badgal Kia
3 likesIncoherent? Pretty sure I spoke in clear English
What do you mean?
@Pog they can be CHARGED....you mean convicted.
0 likesThis was hands down the worst miscarriage of Justice in US history. More so than OJ
2 likesThere's no proof of that.
0 likesshe wasn't tried for these chargers prosecutor went for the moon and got dog shit.
0 likesHow do you suggest it was reasonably doubtful she killed her daughter?? She lied every step of the way and knew where to find the body, no one else was involved in the case!
0 likes@Sarah Wales there basically was not a body meaning there was no cause of death not saying she didn't kill her daughter but there was no evidence in that respect.
0 likes@Alice Tully-Hall did you vote for biden?
1 like@NashNash are you serious? Two young black girls murdered a man when trying to steal his car and got off with no charges. Youre living in 1960...
5 likes@umungus i never saw a black or white person. i have seen all noises from pale rosy to dark brown like wenge. and one albino but he still wasn't white.
2 likesi see colours just fine and all noises (pink, brown, azure, purple etc) but i know enough about biology to understand how it comes and physics what it actually is. i had enough of education in history to know how the notion of races appeared. nowhere is there an idea that race is something transversal but i saw myself becoming so dark after 2 weeks in the sun that i can pass for an lighter african.
skin colour is originated by the same process as hair or eye colour but, unlike those, it is easily influenced by environment in very short time. there is no way something so fragile can be basis of something so divisive. so i reject the premise. if you want any real difference in physiology as division point for races we have to realise all living humans are just too similar to be anything more then one race.
anything else is ilogical. math don't lie.
and i could care less for americans. my culture is 50x older then their first settlers. i got real sh*t to think about like saving bees then some delusional nonsense invented by prejudiced morons (and i use that term in clinical sense).
@sakatababa i merely stated you would be considered a white supremacist in the US for stating those beliefs. Exactly as I have been.
1 like@umungus that is not a belief. belief is taking something as truth without evidence that it is so. people like to conflate it with faith or knowledge. faith is hope (expectation both based on previous experience or unbased) that something will happen. knowledge is based on facts.
0 likesso it can't be belief as it has factual evidence in such undsputable abundance to be considered knowledge. nothing anyone of us thinks about it will change it. it is. just that. we can either conform to factual state of reality that there is less difference from random european to a finnish northerner than that same northerner has to an african tribal rando in eastern africa or be delusional. and genetics clearly shows it. outward appearance is just adaptability to environment but genetic similarity of I1 haplogroup to major african groups is greater than any I1 has to any other european (excluding I2, they are of the same lineage).
i understand what you are trying to say but you either have to be more precise or more verbose to avoid confusion.
@sakatababa i love how you're nitpicking semantics and writing essays to avoid the point i made lol.
2 likes@umungus real vs fantasy is not nitpicking. it is exact antonym. complete contrast.
2 likesand i didn't avoid anything. i was clear what i think of american history of prejudice. there is nothing more to say on that topic. other things were less clear so i made extensive effort to be clear on them. unlike you, i avoided to use "literal" to say "figurative". and then i offered reasonable basis for that based on verifiable facts. it is not my problem that you are uncustomed with reading that few dozen words looks like an essay to you. if this is long and tedious to you, you should avoid any scientific publication. we write it very dry, factual and detailed.
@Aimee G. Spikes uhhhh no it's female privilege in the court system.
2 likes@Alice Tully-Hall i would much rather be the young attractive white women. Being young and attractive will get you so far with minimal effort in this country if you use it right
1 like@SB exactly! Iam so tired of everything that goes on somebody brings race in on it.
2 likes@Pog That's what you'd think.
0 likesAgree , specially if the girl was found with ducktape on her mouth and nose
0 likesWho would disguise a supposed pool accident in an homicide ??
Makes no sense
it wasnt doubtful she 100% did it
0 likesShe was charged with child abuse. Was ruled not guilty. If they considered an accident to be a possibility, that kind of rules out every charge of mistreatment. Abuse, manslaughter, murder, all not guilty.
0 likesI believe she did it. But believes don't matter. Thats just bad luck there. Guilt needs to be proven and what the prosecution had was just not enough. Not really blaming them though, even though they messed some things up, like the computer specialist who was wrong about her internet searches. But as said, it was just bad luck for them. The body was found too late to determine the cause of death, no one saw anything, no clear evidence for the chloroform + duct tape theory, no confession. It sucks when a murderer gets away with it, but that is just not enough for death row.
@Pog why aren’t the lies enough ?
0 likes@Pog there was she was the only one who saw her daughter and when she went missing instead of calling the police she started partying she wrote in her journal that it was worth it
0 likesWow that's a rlly good point. Yes she shldve been. Yr rt. Yah. Instead they get paid by the dad to go free. This just disgusting.
0 likes@rosaaa putony spot on.
0 likesOr obstruction of justice for all the lying she did 😅
0 likes@rosaaa putony “if she was a man…” “because of a racist and biased judicial system” wow I didn’t know racism was about gender
1 like@Goingby20s i mean they kinda made up for it in forensic evidence didnt they? unless im remembering things wrong. jose baez practically stole the show regardless i felt.
0 likes@SB loooooooooo
0 likes@nowmowcow Yes, it is related to the gender and color of the accused
0 likes@umungus man your arrogance is exhausting.
1 likeAnd abuse of a corpse.
0 likesIt’s hard to think it’s reasonably doubtful when she tried to say how her child was with Zanny the nanny for 31 days and that person doesn’t exist
1 likeno matter how questionable it morally is, the attorney was just too good at his job
0 likesUnfortunately the result of the incompetence of the prosecution. They vastly tried to over charge for what they could reliably prove
0 likes@Y they were also to hungry for publicity and just wanted a huge case to look huger so they win it and get more fame and recognition from it like imagine what a name you did get for such a case.. sadly the wrong people made their name bigger
0 likes@Aimee G. Spikes similar in the jodi arias case! Again an attractive lookn white woman but with the jodi arias case she didn't get off the murder charge!
0 likesJust served 4 years for lying to the police so says the law
0 likes🤔 Just for lying to police nothing more and got acquitted of all charges against her...ain’t it a wonderful life Casey enjoy you got what you wanted Cheers🍾🥂
0 likesno - nice edit tho.
0 likesFor real !! But her lawyer was so good he convinced a jury that there was to much doubt. So in short the prosecutors were very weak shame on them and unfortunately or fortunately the burden of proof is the on prosecution and they failed 😞
0 likesDetective: "Do you know the hotdog vendor that sells me hotdogs every lunchtime down the street?"
17909 likesCasey: "Yes that's Xavier Versoza-Gütenburg and he was originally from the Northern part of Germany, moved to Upstate New York in February 5th of 1993, became a US citizen 3 years later, studied astrophysics in John Hopkins University 5 years ago, graduated, moved to South Carolina 9 months ago, and just finished packing his bags to move to North Dakota this morning. But no I don't have any contact with him offhand."
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AMAZING COMMENT!!!!
767 likes"It would later come to light that there NEVER was an Xavier from Northern Germany."
1990 likes@Justin Harris Jury: "We see how pretty much all information she has provided throughout this whole investigation was falsified to purposely mislead detectives. But the speech that her lawyer gave on court was so sad. Not guilty.
871 likes@Justin Harris It's crazy to think that if this case happened in another country where the concept of "beyond reasonable doubt" could be twisted for the favor of the victim, perhaps in Japan where prosecutions have a 99% conviction rate of guilty verdicts, true "justice" would have been served against Casey Anthony.
138 likesMakes you wonder if a system wherein the judgement of one's character and motives could overcome the lack of evidence would work better or worse. I guess in rare cases like this, it would work better.
Just fuck it Idk man life is hard and humans are bullshit creatures that deserve a design overhaul.
@Re!gn Japan has its faults when it comes to that 99% conviction rate. There are a couple cases in which someone has been basically found innocent but Japan keeps them in jail to keep the conviction rate so high. They like that high number and don't want to be wrong.
132 likes@Tilearian Yes of course. I didn't say that it's a better system, I just made it an example of how things must've turned out if Casey's conviction were to be decided somewhere else and how that makes the "justice" system so weird.
56 likesIn fact, I think Japan's system is worse due to the fact that there's most likely more cases of innocent defendants being convicted as opposed to rightful convictions that would otherwise be found not guilty in another country.
@Re!gn that's fair.
14 likesJustin Harris LMAO
8 likesThis sounds like Stephanie Lazarus 😂😂
21 likes@Re!gn So true! Look up the Sushi Murders of 1993 in Osaka, wherein Hamiko Fugisaka, a man originally from Tokyo, perpetrated a series of heinous crimes before fleeing to Osaka and assuming the identity of three different female bar hostesses, and went undetected for nearly three months before moving to upstate New York and posing as a dental hygienist. Then traveling to Little Rock AK to produce and star in a one-man show of comedy, dancing, juggling, and assorted hijinx and later barely escaping capture by illegally entering Switzerland and becoming a tram operator a the base of the Matterhorn mountain, despite speaking no English, German, or French, and posing as a student from Uganda, through the use of makeup and wigs. After which he found his way to Florida where he worked at an alligator ranch, a proctologists office, and as a limo driver for wealthy clients with learning disabilities, where he was finally discovered after being apprehended during an arrest for exposing himself in public to a group of former Soviet communist-era senior citizens at a local casino. When he was finally extradited back to Japan, he went to trial and was found guilty of only one count: preparing sushi without a licence. He served only 8 months and is now a transgendered politician running for office. True story.
59 likesJustin Harris I can’t believe that! South Park is weak and upsetting but it’s free unless you pay the bills. But living with mommy and not paying any bills so it’s free.! But you should still get a job cause mommy won’t be there forever!
3 likesBhatt Hole WTF?
24 likes🤣🤣🤣
3 likes😂😂😂 nooo caaaap
2 likesBEST 👏COMMENT👏EVER👏🙌
11 likesReign you're being way too generous with your interpretation here. She isn't nearly smart enough to know what any of those things or places are, which is why everyone and their mother was just "from New York" and they all happened to move around a lot.
29 likesHAHAHAH this is perfect
2 likesDo she ever shut her flapping gums
8 likesCasey... get off youtube...
5 likes@Re!gn Youre so right and thats what bugs me so much about that ruling. It calls into question what "Reasonable doubt" really is inside of a courtroom. I think perhaps the American court system has a small over reliance on motive and direct forensic evidence. Obviously those two factors are very important and are there to protect citizens, but where do we draw the line? At what point does enough circumstantial evidence become enough for a conviction? Or does it ever? Thats ultimately the question im asking myself after this case study.
6 likes@Robert . M How do you infer that i don't work and pay no bills because i compared the court ruling to an episode of South Park? We're having a conversation here bro, go talk shit somewhere else lol
20 likesSorry to laugh
1 likeGOLD
3 likesI smoked pot with Johnny Hopkins
13 likesWhen I read this comment I died😭😭😭☠
7 likesHahahaha. Her lies were so outrageous and completely unbelievable.
8 likesThis comment is pure fucking gold. I actually cried this shit was soo fucking funny 😂😂😂
8 likes😂😂😂👏🏼
1 likeAmazing but she does it better, you’re feels like it’s fabricated
2 likes@Jona A that's the point lol
4 likesBhatt Hole ok I actually took a few seconds to look that up and it's as made up as it sounded, but life is crazy like that so I never doubt anything much these days
5 likesYou missed weather he moved "down South", or "up North". The only two directions she seems to think people move.
9 likesRe!gn I was making a joke, i should have added an lol in there 😂
2 likesLMFAO
0 likesShoutout to ND!
0 likesHahahahaaaa hilarious 😂🤣
0 likesBRUH, I feel like you should get money for this comment xD
4 likes@Re!gn I learned that fact about Japan in Persona 5
3 likes@Justin Harris you'd be surprised, Xavier is quite common over there.
0 likesIt seemed like she'd prepared the whole script. But I've never seen one of these vids where they remembered it all and didn't trip themselves up -- except for the Disney visit. I don't get why she did that. Then again, I don't think like her.
1 like@Someone Somewhere yeah like all those details, those lies were almost so elaborate as if Sheldon Cooper came up with them.
1 likeBhatt Hole dear god 🤨😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 likeCan't believe how people compliment the attorney for being "so skillful". He just manipulated you guys into thinking, that it's his job to defend her, based on what she tells him. He knew that she killed her daughter. But he is very likely another sociopath, who has no problems with creating lie constructs, without any moral/ethical issues. He even had the person who created this video in his pocket: "say about the attorney what you want, but the following scene is expertly done..." - Moral of the story: People with overwhelming rhetorics and the skill, to simulate empathy in their voices, are dominating. I'm an attorney myself, but in europe. You'll see those people day in and day out. In fact, it's the job with the highest amount of sociopaths. Their skill of pathological lying is clinical. But you'll also get behind their masks, if you closely pay attention, on some private dinner occasions. Working in this field can make you sick, as you can see what people are capable of, without eben blinking.
12 likesHahaha
0 likesAnd he drives a 1932 studaBaker with a V12 and leather seats with optional cushion springs
4 likes@Justin Harris LMAo 😂
0 likes@bone8352 Ayyy P5 is one of my favourite games of all time!
0 likesLOL
0 likesBrilliant!
0 likesLMFAO
0 likesYeah, I was like WTF?? How does she know sooooo much details about this woman? Excellent Comment!
2 likesBut no I don't recall his phone number.
7 likes@Platonic Purple Panda BUT, his Blood Type is 0 Negative in contrary to his grand grand mother!
3 likesI think when they presented that she was raped by her father changed the outcome of this trial. It made it complicated. It’s shitty nonetheless. Wether that’s true or not but it made me sick to my stomach that she was acquitted.
3 likesRight? Oh my god; I write novels and I can't come up with a cohesive backstory on the fly like that. How do I learn to do that?
2 likes@Jelle Dulay A friend of mine had a interesting theory: "What IF what she said is true? Aaaaand what if the molesting continued and her daughter´s father is her dad?"
1 likeI am still puzzled about the fact that she could kill her own daughter so cold-hearted, despite her obvious psychological issues. Her dad´s reaction when it was made public was suprisingly not surprised in my view.
VRKirito - Nerd Universe I also thought of that. So to say she didn’t love the child because of the circumstances. She could’ve just given her away for an adoption if she wasn’t intedning on keeping her. Or had an abortion if it was legal in their state. I could probably understand it but it’s hard to know what’s truth or not. Only them knows. She either did to save the little girl from her rapist dad or she’s just really pathologic. We can’t know for sure.
2 likes@Jelle Dulay True. The more you think about the case and all, the more complicated it gets. It´s easy to condemn a person like her as it is in no way understandable what she did. Still, there are many open questions in my view. I wonder what she´s doing in these day and how life turned out for her parents afterwards.
0 likesVRKirito - Nerd Universe i think she has a son now. I hope that the baby is safe.
0 likescli-click II Xavier...doesn't exist. Casey did pack bags this morning, but as a store associate at the checkout counter after customers finished shopping at a local Walmart, and she likely doesn't even know where or what Germany even is. In a sworn statement presented in court, the detective later admitted to routinely purchasing bratwurst at lunch, not hot-dogs. In retrospect, this provides us with further evidence that Casey and the detective are pathological liars, and are willing to fabricate the truth for the purpose of deception, and to gain public sympathy. cli-click
2 likes@David Timmons "and she likely doesn't even know where or what Germany even is" HAHAHAH 💀
3 likesahahaha
0 likesBravo bravo 👏 10/10 comment !!!!!
0 likesBest comment ever.
0 likeshahahaha this is the best comment i have seen on the internet
1 likeHow the psychologist didn’t catch onto her deceptive, sociopathic way. She is narcissistic and I think she
1 likealso has some type of personality disorder.
this comment 😂 perfect
1 like@Bhatt Hole Bruh WTF LMAOO!
0 likesCan someone inform me what Bollock Johnson is going through? What happened to make him say that. Someone please UNCONFUSE ME!!!!😂😂😥😥
1 like@Justin Harris and Xavier NEVER went to upstate New York
0 likesdun dun dun dunn
LMAO nailed it
0 likesExactly what I said. This was such a high profile NATION case. He got PAID and I mean PAID...... BIG TIME!!!!!! She bought her way out of this. A murderer is free walking the streets. But they lock someone up over a bag of weed these days ? Our justice system is so backwards. This evil soulless thing is guilty on so many levels.
1 like日本語は話せません j
0 likes😄😄😄😄😄 this!
0 likesI’m screaminggggg
1 like😅😅😅
0 likesGive or take. Lol
0 likes@Re!gn s
0 likes@Angela Grace Foster t
0 likes😫 pretty much
0 likesOmg this made me laugh so hard
0 likes😂😂
0 likesSome one was slipping her a hot dog.
1 likeNice
0 likes💀💀💀😂😂😂😂
0 likes😆
0 likes🤣😂
0 likesLmfao I Just Died🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭
0 likeskdnsks PLZZZ
0 likesGood one..lol
0 likesThis is S teir 😂
0 likes🤣🤣
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0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likes@Re!gn yuck man, such stupidity that they could utter she wasn't guilty. Just looking at her demeanor and hearing her talk was getting me pissed.
0 likesOMG best!!! Lmao...
0 likesI'm deceased
1 like😂😂😂😂
1 like@Amanda Cox I know right?. Lmfao
0 likesReally dropped the 'offhand' bomb too lmao
2 likes💀💀💀
0 likesSeriously that would have been her 😂😂😂 I was surprised that she knew backgrounds of the people she named and how they moved or in the process of moving. She knew too much. I found that too much and she was lying a whole lot.
1 like😂😂😂
0 likesNOR his phone number!🤷🏻♂️
0 likesLOL
0 likes@phoenician god is this supposed to be an attack on me or the American government with their judicial system?
0 likes@phoenician god my apologies then, you must have deleted your comment, I read some of what did load for me in my notifications. But yeah, corruption is everywhere.
0 likesJCS cuts in
3 likes“the hot dog vender, xavier versoza-gütenburg, doesn’t exist”
Bruh. This is perfect.
1 likein your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
0 likes@azsuter lmao okay, Casey Anthony.
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes"Ma'am there is no hotdog vendor. I just made that up."
1 likeDon’t forget that it would come out that Xavier Versoza-Gütenburg wasn’t actually real and she’d made it all up.
2 likes@Bhatt Hole I googled the man’s name but could not find the case. Not even with keywords like Osaka, the year 1993, or “sushi murders”. You sure you got the name right?
0 likesLITERALLY she should’ve been a child book author
0 likesHot dog? What about cold cat or sumpthin
0 likesSeems legit
0 likes@Justin Harris Exactly cause this name or the form Xaver is more widely used in the southern part of Germany
0 likesin the north it would be rather Hein or Fietje, so he probably was a Bavarian refugee who got adopted by the Gütenburg family from Hamburg 😉
😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesBest comment here 😂
1 like@Re!gn let's face it this could only help in America and I'm sure that varies between states
0 likesAbsolute farce from start to finish
And doesn't casey now live with one of the detectives on the case and works as a researcher
@Michael J there is a few times but unless there's an x rated clip of her performing then you won't see it
0 likes@Jelle Dulay was that ever proven though
0 likesAnd any mother who experienced that would be over protective of her child
@Jelle Dulay or just simply the whole family thing is messed up and all of them are lying
0 likes@VRKirito - Nerd Universe casey now lives with one of the defense detectives and works for him as a researcher
0 likesWho says crime doesn't pay
@Jess.B probably made a bonus for the end result
0 likes@William Munny how many times do you have to type this nonsense
0 likes@yesvee temporary
0 likes@RazzBerry that's some name and shouldn't be hard to prove to be real or not
0 likesWhat a bizarre story
@azsuter true but was she innocent
0 likesOf course she wasn't
@Lazra that's some name to make up
0 likes@Mark Mitchell they probably paid vasco thompson. It is messed up. I feel so bad for the little girl. She deserves justice. It’s all of them against this little girl. I cried so hard when I saw this. It broke my heart. No child should ever experience this.
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesFuck that's a good one!
0 likesThis is so good
0 likesShe could’ve asked a friend :o
0 likes👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
1 like😂😂
1 likeThis is funny but at the same time is really what got the police to believe her at first. Hell even watching this now 13 years later knowing the reality the ease and quickness with how she relayed this "information" would convince me
0 likes😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😻😻😻😻
0 likes@Bhatt Hole whoa!! Even Casey couldn’t make that up!! Lol
0 likes😅😅😅😃😃
0 likesLOOOOOOOOOL
0 likesBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
0 likesHehehe
0 likesFebruary 5th is my bday
1 likebig ups my man
0 likesThe detail and depth of her lies shows just what a devious and conniving person she really is.
0 likes🤣😂🤣😂These were my thoughts exactly! Sis is an accomplished liar.
0 likesCasey can become best script writer. She can write scripts with lot of details with no effort.
0 likesNot sure if anyone has watched the show the assassination of Gianni Versace on netflix but the killer was the exact way. He was a pathological liar didn’t and made things up as he went along. No one truly knew the real him.
0 likesExcellent ! Vous êtes génial !!
1 likeAyo that's me
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesMy n***a, that comment goes hard!
0 likesReign,you nailed it with this comment!!
0 likes@98SuperStar
0 likesYes, I sure envied her for that and how she was able to make things up so convincingly on the hoof.
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 EXACTLY!!!
0 likesYou forgot the fact that she never knows an exact date, more like: ‘he became a citizen about 3 1/2 - 4 years ago’
1 likelol
0 likesYou mean the 5th of February **
0 likesI will never get over the fact that Casey is walking free. There’s just this constant underlying sense of frustration that re-emerges every time I’m reminded of it
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All we as a society can do is shame & remind her of her misdeeds the remainder of her breathing days. Making her ‘free’ life a living hell is the least we could do for her daughter who never got the opportunity to live a full life due to her actions.
353 likeswtf how is she free? I haven't watched it all yet but surely that cannot be possible
178 likes@El Astronaute it is....
93 likesEl Astronaute Casey was indicted on 4 counts of lying under oath to police, serving only 3 years in prison. Her daughter never received justice, as she somehow evaded 1st degree murder, aggravated manslaughter & child abuse charges.
238 likes@Mary Hi Karen
383 likes@RolandRED I think we shd all say hi to Karen!
75 likes@Mary Yeah, I'm that kind of asshole.
177 likes@Victoria Noelle when does that happen....last time people caught up with her she was chilling in a bar, attending BLM marches and shit, and for the most lives life like this never happened
28 likesThe parents of hundreds of thousands of babies who get aborted every year get to walk free too as do the doctors so why do you care so much about this one case? Just pretend she made a post-birth abortion and you will get over it.
33 likes@Dynamite that s bait.
135 likesThe white guy who shot the black guy once in self defense after he was attacked, who accidentally killed him, waited for police, volunteered all information, got the MAXIMUM 30 years, despite having no previous criminal record.
82 likesThe white woman who tried to kill her husband by a hired gun after defrauding him of his house, and who lied through the entire court case and has never took any responsibility for her actions, got a measly 15 years, 6 of which were house arrest.
The US court system is run by simps.
... But it was the Puerto Rican babysitter
10 likesEl Astronaute Mary has no chill lollll I didn’t find anything wrong with your question. It is quite a shocking fact that she is out walking free when everything is considered. Our justice system is far from perfect.
18 likes@meredocu it's so true though. think about the hypocrisy. people are seething about this yet are totally ok with literally killing babies after they're born or in the womb
17 likes@DynamiteCOMPLETELY different, dude.
16 likes@Mary &Here we have a wild, rabid, Karen. Calm down sis, it's not that serious.
4 likes@Dynamite this child had a life, feelings, personality, knew the world outside, had a name, an identity. Was given this person Casey as her mother. someone she depended on for all her needs... who needed her to nurture her. and she didnt.
68 likesbeing a mom wasnt "cute and exciting" anymore. a 6 week old fetus doesnt even have a sex characteristics developed until about 7-8 weeks. nothing is completely developed until you give birth, and even then its still growing. thats why abortion is illegal after 10 weeks because at 20 weeks because can it be deemed viable and savable if something were to happen in utero or to the mother medically. it is indeed VERY different.
It's because of the Halo effect look it up on here. there's plenty of videos that talk about it. We judge people based on their physical appearance, Had Casey Anthony been fat and ugly? She would have been found GUILTY.
18 likes@ドット A lot of states actually have no limits or the limits can be blocked by courts. Sexual differentiation also happens around week 6-7 in embryonic development but that doesn't even matter because it's still a life because once conception occurs, left to its natural growth, it will keep growing just as any human does until full maturity. At 8 weeks gestation, facial sensory receptors appear and by 14 weeks gestation, sensory fibers grow into the spinal cord and connections are made with the thalamus (part of the brain). Many abortions are deemed legal by this time. There is just no defense for abortion and in this case, killing of a 2 year old is quite similar to it. They can both feel pain. You can't just say the baby in the womb is not a life because of the location, that it's just not outside yet. That makes no sense.
13 likes@Dynamite I understand your point about it being hypocritical. Some people don't bat an eye at abortion, but care about this.
9 likesI think the issue is for many of us the waters are muddied. Maybe we even deceive ourselves to not feel like killers if it is in fact more concrete and obvious. Is it a person, if so at what point? Is there consciousness, are they self aware? Is is just a bunch of tissues at this point? What are we really doing when we abort?
We don't see anything tangible and recognizable and sympathizable like a human face. At best an outline or shadow. It may be harder to empathize when we don't know if it's a person or can clearly ascertain it as a person the normal way, by being able to physically see, observe, and interact with it. Whereas in this case we clearly know it's a person with wants and feelings and a personality through direct experience.
She's fully aware this is a person and is physically, herself, snuffing them out of existence. I think this could be what allows people to have these seemingly contradictory views.
I think you're right and hit the nail on the head when you said that many people escape the thought of facing the issue and moral dilemma associated with it. And I agree that people can detach the value of life from the unborn compared to children that we see running around due to the fact that the unborn are not as distinguishable.
5 likesHowever, I think the biggest factor that contributed to desensitizing the masses and normalizing the idea of abortion was the decades of indoctrination starting in the mid 20th century in schools as well as the media and pop-culture. The movement away from tradition and religion has manifested a lot of the problems we see in society today. Morality is subjective to many and they can't be reasoned with when the issue of abortion comes up. The definition and value of life is seen as subjective so there is no reasoning in that.
You and me both sister. That woman deserves so much more than what she got.
1 likeTurkish-American Groyper post birth abortion doesn’t exist, it’s not a thing and you have no idea how women’s health care works clearly.
22 likes@Paul No. Stop. Talk to your handlers before you get fired Kevin.
0 likes@Jen Jen's New News lol puerto rican and BLACK! she had to throw that in there! daaaaamn!!!
3 likes@Mary calm down Karen
1 like@Victoria Noelle she only served a month
0 likes@Dynamite I get you but also. It's still illegal to kill a person or lie to the police with false information. Abortion or not. She just in the state of perpetual lying.
0 likes@Dynamite there is no point in pointing at other states to say there it's legal to XYZ. Who cares where she was it wasn't legal. End of story.
1 like@Victoria Noelle society should absolutely not be doing that, we should be working to improve the system so it is more accurate in the future.
1 like@Victoria Noelle You can do more than that but nobody will step up
0 likesyou don't understand how frustrated I am right now after watching that whole video then finding out she was found not guilty
3 likes@Victoria Noelle That's the most fucked up thing I've ever heard
1 likeHonestly I don't see how she could live a normal life after this. Everyone knows she constantly lies, and I don't think anyone would hire someone like that for any job. I think prison is the only place where she can live an actual life where she can be provided for, not like she deserves it.
3 likesExcuse me? She’s free?
1 likeDon't worry. We as humans are not meant to judge. When she dies, God will judge her for everything she's done/ will do. God will not let the murder of that baby go unnoticed and unjustified just like we let it get here on Earth. We can't do anything about it, so don't worry or even think about it. Give it to God.
2 likes@TheLegend27 yep and it doesn’t help that God especially loves the little children so her punishment will be extra harsh.
2 likesI would allow double jeopardy to be excused in this case. Bring her to justice...whatever that is anymore
1 likeIt's because her daddy was a cop
0 likes@El Astronaute oh, she was acquitted. She recently started a bail bonds company. Yes really.
0 likesIf it helps, she would have been a terrible mother, and her daughter would have a miserable childhood. It would have been better if Casey never had a child
0 likes@I Thought It Was Funny she looks gross to me. I know its shallow but just saying since we are talking about it. So tragic. Can't get over gone for a month and no report
2 likes@Alex Nezhynsky would've been?
0 likes@I Thought It Was Funny I agree.
0 likes@Andro Libre She's attending BLM "marches" huh? Figures.
1 like@Kass is it tho?
0 likesI think trying her for First Degree was the downfall. They couldn't prove she intended to murder.
2 likes@cornpipe 100% correct. pRo LiFe
1 likeShe must be living the ‘Bella Vita’ life now! Like her tattoo!
0 likes@Victoria Noelle people like that don't deserve even that, they shouldn't begiving the chance again to do anything close to that
0 likes@Dynamite Casey, is this you?
2 likesStill no proof of what happened.
0 likes@Abraham Technology we probably didn't read the same thing. why would she search how to suffocate a child on google, and why did they find human decomposition in her car?
1 likeunless all that was a fabrication or was found later on after the case was dismissed.
or, as people said above, the judges are all simps.
also, as from other comments, abortion and morality is indeed different for each person.
for example i believe each individual semen, even before they turn into a child, is already a living being, which is why you can think that trillions of possible persons have died since you were 12 years old, but others may not agree with me
@Rocky M. G. funny how all of you calling @Mary out to be a "Karen" actually sound like real Karens. And there are so many of you to promptly gang up on one, a true Karen behavior.
1 like@MusgraveRitual ok keyboard justiciar
2 likes@Mads Erik Horstad In US justice system, once you've gone through trial, and have received your verdict, you cannot be retried again for the same case. Her parents have proved total enablers when it came to their daughter, so I doubt that they would file in a separate case...it's all in all tragic for that little girl, and for the rest of us that have to see this injustice exist.
1 like@Ele LaEffe not living in the Middle Ages also means listening to opinions you don't agree with and remaining civilized.
1 like@Rocky M. G. just observation....
0 likes@AnataBakka Again, no one knows what killed Caylee, let alone who hid her.
0 likesIt's possible that it was Casey, but that's all that is, a possibility, and that only would prove that she hid her, not that she killed her.
Casey Anthony having the damaged psyche she does has the capability of hiding a dead body she comes across, but since she hasn't been connected with any other assaults or murders, it is unlikely she ever murdered anyone.
Bet she never leaves her house either
0 likes@Dynamite A fetus is not it's own entity therefore not a human nor is it entitled to any rights as a human. It's scary that you equate a medical procedure to the death of a living breathing person.
6 likes@Alex Nezhynsky of course she should not have been a parent! She had options though, abortion, adoption or even her parents. No doubt her parents would have been more than willing to care for her child while she went out and partied. Let's just hope she never becomes a mother again.
1 like@jonlewis Sadly you're correct. If they had gone for a lesser charge, they would have been able to succeed. First degree murder is very difficult to prove in court as it has to be proven "without a shadow of doubt" along with premeditated intent to kill.
0 likes@Dynamite cause the fetus is not born .
0 likes@Dynamite abortions are different, abortions are not murder
1 likeTrial by jury is very flawed.
0 likesShe will get hers. What’s in for her is worse than you could ever imagine.
0 likesI looked her up on Wikipedia halfway through and was godsmacked to see her only convictions were lying to police
0 likes@Mary I am leave me alone 😞
0 likes@Dynamite I have hard time understanding your opinions. You're obviously well informed but wtf man? Are you against abortion or you just don't care?
0 likes@Jcsj_1995 You just keep telling that to yourself. It will still haunt you. Have you heard of condoms? No?
1 like@Abraham Technology dfuq, whats wrong with you people?
0 likes@Julie Exel You're both wrong!
0 likes@70ne This is the one video where it's unclear of who killed her child, or if her child was even killed by another human.
0 likesThere's no evidence, just conjecture.
I was taught to take conjecture with a grain of salt, for conjecture is toxic.
Also, I guess me having empathy is what's "wrong" with me to you.
@Abraham Technology conjecture or not this case is obvious. She killed her own child. Disgusting.
0 likes@70ne You have zero evidence of that occurring.
0 likes@70ne you can’t murder what isn’t a living human.
0 likes@70ne also yes I use condoms…
0 likes@Abraham Technology no it’s almost definitely Casey who killed her daughter
0 likes@Jcsj_1995 Cool conjecture with no evidence.
0 likes@Abraham Technology 🙄 so someone constantly lying, covering up the death, having the smell of a dead body in her car, and all the other evidence, isn’t enough evidence for you?
0 likes@Jcsj_1995 All that proves is a dead body may have been in a car.
0 likesIt's not evidence of HER killing anyone. At worst it's something related to corpse abuse.
I hope you never have kids.
@Abraham Technology also no that doesn’t prove that there “may have been” a dead body in the car, that proved that there was a dead body in the car.
0 likes@Jcsj_1995
0 likesHerself? Someone else? Accident?
Everything you're claiming is not evidenced.
I have empathy. If you think having empathy is wrong, then you have issues.
@BadToothGamer Infinitely less flawed than trial by judge.
0 likes@Abraham Technology so you think the CHILD killed herself? I have empathy, but I have empathy for the child that was murdered. Not for the mother that covered it up, not for the mother that went and partied when her daughter was “missing” not for the mother that lied to the police and sent them on a goose chase, not for the mother that had her daughters dead body in her car for who knows how long, not for the mother that looked like she didn’t care when her daughter was “missing”.
0 likes@Abraham Technology like I said even if it was an accident, she still fucking covered it up for a month, lied to the police, put her dead body in her car, and went to parties after her daughter died.
0 likes@Jcsj_1995 Just keep telling that to yourself. If I follow your logic than 3yo kid isn't human as well being it's not quite developed yet. It's about killing the possibility of the future. It will all be clear to you when you meet your creator, which you certainly will. Sooner than later.
1 like@70ne They're insane. They think humans aren't humans until they're out of the womb. Yeah, they deserve prison like all other psychopaths.
1 like@Dynamite The way you described a fetus at a certain amount of weeks is equivalent to the significance of a bug. It feels, it moves, perhaps it breathes, though it's not comparable to the complex beings that we are as humans. Yes, there are some of us that don't want to kill these bugs because of some "moral dilemma" that you speak of, but do we consider it murder if someone else does? Of course not, because these bugs are not in a state of consciousness or awareness of their own identity to the same degree that human beings are. They more or less are simply surviving by instinct. They aren't emotionally connected to their existence nor do they apply any significance to life itself. If you think simply being able to feel or sense your surroundings is the equivalent of taking the life of a human being with feelings and emotions and thoughts and an identity, then you're severely misconstrued.
0 likes@Dynamite you some kind of sociopath or something? Otherwise you’re a troll
0 likes@cornpipe prolife means opposed to abortion and euthanize . I don't have to adopt all the stray animals to be opposed to animal testing. The problem with anything other than prolife is that you're allowing, encouraging, and or supporting the genocide of the most innocent among us.
0 likes@Jcsj_1995 is the baby human? Yes. It's not a chicken or cow, the species is human. Is the baby alive? Yes. If it was not alive then it could not grow. It became a life at conception. Is it murder to kill a baby? Yes. 95% of biologists agree that life begins at conception. Anyone that isn't prolife is sadistic, evil, uneducated and desensitized to genocide. You have to tell yourself that the baby isn't "*really* a baby" because if you faced the facts and realized that you have been supporting the genocide of Innocents, you would likely take your own life or at the very least hate yourself. And you wouldn't be missed.
0 likes@Tim Beech 60 million babies aborted in America since Roe V Wade. Let's not even talk about globally.
0 likes@Recon Ranger not babies
0 likes@Mary damn chill
0 likes@Victoria Noelle that's just no good... Don't waste your life away ruining someone else's. I know it's frustrating but that won't change what happened. You don't owe it to anyone, especially not to that kid. She's dead and depending on what you believe in in a better place now. If your religious you should be happy that Casey is going to hell or something... Idk I'm not religious. But yeah! Don't waste your life away!
0 likes@ドット Imagine trying to justify the barbaric act of mutilating the unborn.
0 likes1:24
0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
Why are you so surprised 🙄she’s white
0 likesThe way she smiled after she was proven not guilty, knowing she just got away with the murder is seriously fucked.
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"I have rich parents that will get me out of this" kinda smile
376 likes@MrJpegi hmm, they accused her father of sexually abusing her as defense, dont think the parents sponsored that??
236 likes@MrJpegi That argument holds less water when her mother is the one who turned her in.
72 likes@Singing Sunflower I don't care. Usually when judge makes a stupid decision its parents who bribe them or you've got a lawyer that knows judge personally
23 likes@MrJpegi The verdict isn't the judge's decision, it is the jury's decision. The judge determines the sentence, and what is permitted in proceedings.
98 likes@shaft9000 Ok sorry, european here.Still doesnt change that this case looks just like Capone trial, well Capone at leasta ctually went to jail
11 likesShe wasn't "proven not guilty." She is guilty, but the jury didn't feel certain enough about it to render a guilty verdict, due to reasonable doubt. I don't agree with their verdict but it's not my decision.
49 likesThe way she’s still going around, living life, and partying and breathing....
91 likes@MrJpegi bruh, where in europe do you live, that judges are that easily corrupted?
5 likesDoes not really sound realistic in a case like this one, or somewhat similar.
@Adalbert Schwafel I'm from the balkans, and while not easily, this shit really does happen. We just had a case where one of the people of stature accused a bunch of judges of taking bribes, since he finally got skewered
11 likes@Singing Sunflower someone give opinion on the second reply, I'm curious
0 likes@MrJpegi that’s not why she got off but we won’t talk about that lol
2 likes@Adalbert Schwafel
12 likesPersonally I live in France and in my country you don't even have to bribe the judge to get away.
The Justice system is fucked up in my country...
I mean in my country we have daily cases of criminals who commit violent crimes those guys are repeated offenders well known from the police.
And that because our jails are full of scumbags...
I'm 100% for the death penalty we should really clean our countries.
Thanks for spoiler
4 likes@DaleDoback1888 i think death penalty is not a good idea cause death is an easy way out they. Deserve harsher punishment
7 likes@minikui kowai desu
4 likesLike what ? Since jails are useless.
@DaleDoback1888 idk but the death injection is painless so they def deserve worse
0 likes@Lucien De Rubempré or like watch the video first lol
3 likes@DaleDoback1888 Well I live in Germany, so therefore + my personal moral, big yikes to murdering people imprisoned by the state...
2 likesSo I am very much against your idea, but wish you as a person a good day nevertheless
Obviously she was guilty and a terrible person so I dont doubt that she was happy to be found not guilty, but you can tell she is (whether she is putting on a show or not) crying and smiling in relief and not smiling smugly. That facial expression that sort of looks like a smile is not uncommon at all when people are crying, I do it too. You can see her eyebrows are scrunched up and there are tears, the "smile" like expression is a similar reflex as those things when crying
0 likesMaybe she smiled for knowing that she won't have to fricking die. If you think about it that way, that's not fucked up anymore.
0 likes@Samson Crosswood she throws birthday parties on her daughters tombstone as if they're still alive ... disturbing
1 likeYeah wouldn't she be relieved? A sigh of relief is the only appropriate reaction here
0 likes@Ricky LaFleur i am just to the people who deserve it
0 likeswouldn't you be happy to be free?
1 like#rich #white #harmless #women #privilege 😂
3 likesYep, that's what wickedness and evil would look like if it had a face!
4 likes@Singing Sunflower I agree, I honestly think it was a lie to sway the jury to show symphony for what she has done, and in a way it worked sadly.
0 likesI know right the justice system is fucked!!
2 likesHow did she get off?
1 like...She was proven not guilty and got away with murder?
0 likesDuping delight
0 likes@Brian Johnson she also changed her story on the stand and claimed she (Casey’s mom) looked up chloroform not Casey. The prosecution was pissed.
1 like@shaft9000 While the initial verdict is made by the jury, a judge can indeed, overrule a jury's decision, which is what should have happened in this bizarre case.
2 likesRight it was eye opening like she did not just do that shit wtf
1 like1:24
0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
@Mr Artician but a judge may only overturn a guilty verdict to not guilty. Honestly this is a failure of the investigation team. A ton of circumstance evidence does not meet the burden of proof the state must show. If anything the judge should have redirected the prosecution during prima facia to re-file when they meet burden. But to bind it over you only need some evidence and this is what you get.
0 likesYea and then this will happen again as soon as she gets tired of her next child.
0 likes@Adalbert Schwafel in Slovenia EU
0 likesIts fucking discusting
0 likesI mean I guess, I feel like literally anyone would smile after being found not guilty for basically anything lol weird thing to read into
0 likes@DaleDoback1888 tu dis de la mxrde gros wtf
0 likes@Adalbert Schwafel This was an ordinary family, so you're right.
0 likesBut I'll give you an example - there was a very famous case in Poland of Tomasz Komenda - essentially a 15 year old girl was brutally raped, left naked and unconscious in winter and died of exposure and internal bleeding.
No strong evidence ever pointed to mr Komenda, he even had a strong alibi - but he was sentenced for life, and got out of prison after 18 years after proving his innocence.
After that two other guys were found guilty, one of them has been let go from custody after being sentenced for 25 years in prison, to wait for jail admission as a free man...
There are findings of multiple bizarre and nonsensical missteps in the investigation, on behalf of the police, the prosecutors and even judges, multiple witnesses has died either supposedly committing suicide or in a car crashes. Not a single person was faced criminal charges for corruption or even negligence in the investigation.
Mr. Komenda was granted around 500k $ (roughly an equivalent of 1mln $ if it happened in the US) for his time spent in prison (that was by far the largest amount of cash anyone ever got from polish government as a compensation - a striking contrast to 45k $ a guy was granted for being wrongfully arrested for just three days in Cananda)
She's free, but fortunately she's not really free. Everywhere she goes she will face nothing but disdain and disgust. And, im happy videos like this will continue to pop up and give her case renewed attention, so people don't forget.
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I really hope that’s true.
42 likesYes exactly!! Videos popping up from time to time will never let her be fully free she will always be reminded of how sick she is
14 likes@Stained Glass she's too big of a narcissist. Probably wants to flaunt that she got away with it
38 likes@isa Solano Doesn't matter. She will feel like a worm every day... No life and no death, worse than insects
7 likesI'm surprised she has been able to remain in the US. Everyone seemed to follow this case and so many people were outraged.
7 likesShe changes her name and hair and she's basically anonymous again.
3 likes@Rianna You think another country would just take her? lol.
2 likesIt's quite simple to dissappear if u want to. It just takes dedication and planning. Name change, subtle plastic surgery that changes your face just enough, moving to a small town where nobody knows you...
2 likesJust face it. She outsmarted the system, a single lying (bad at that) human being.
1 likeim pretty sure she got married n is jus living a normal life now its crazy how she really did get away w it yall think she cares ab others ppl opinions
2 likesImagine punishing someone who didn't do anything. You sure are a nice person...
0 likesEven if she is met with disdain and disgust, I doubt it'll matter to her if she's sociopathic. She probably won't start feeling remorse for it any time soon. The only consequence that'll reach her is doors closing, (and only as annoyance) fewer opportunities available to get her what she wants in life.
5 likes@Jfjdjshdi, my mom thinks I'm a nice guy.
3 likesWell said friend. Very well said.
0 likesNice thought, but not true.
0 likesWe are the minority here.
General population still watches TV
If she's a sociopath it won't bother her
1 likeBe nice to meet her
0 likesshe IS free and living high on the hog with her lawyer. she gets everything she wants.
1 like@Stained Glass I bet after a handful of Xanax.
0 likesExcept she won't care
0 likes@Stained Glass she probably takes Xanax to go to sleep
0 likesShe has no regrets came out last as a cover story. Shes not being punished.
0 likesYes this!! This is what I’ve always said about this case. The justice system let this country down letting her walk- but it’s now our job as a society to hold her accountable!! We can’t forget that.
0 likesRianna oh yea- she had more kids. There’s a video of something happening with her school and her kids. She was upset or something you can YouTube it.
0 likes30 Nights Insomniac she did not change her name.
0 likesteissy gonzalez she isn’t married but she is happy and does photography and is training to be a private investigator by the PI her defense team hired. She’s such a shitty human that should’ve gotten the death penalty.
1 likeThat girls has already made excuses to herself and she will just talk her way out of any questions people have for her. If someone see her she probably just says it's not her.
0 likesAll of them let Caylee down.
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cant imagine what the grandparents must feel like
421 likesFlorida man let her down the most.
87 likesThat defense attorney is an accomplice in the murder of a child. Lawyers who defend people like this are just horrible people and should be gone of this world.
337 likes@kube they are to blame as well but raising this sociopath and coverup her lies which allowed this woman to think she could get away with it.
125 likesThe worst part is she did get away with that.
@Taco Monster its literally their job what
371 likestheyre not an accomplice in murder, thats a toatal misuse of the phrase. the deed had already been done and theyre sinply presenting the evidence and trying to get her a lesser sentence, or none at all
@phanatic215 it IS shocking. Why didn't they report? Or talk with the police? Mind blowing. I'm assuming they had regular time with her prior to her disappearance, but after a month...they hadn't talked to police or anything? What?
25 likes@Taco Monster I'm guessing you don't know how the legal system works.
77 likes@randy Yes. Isn't it amazing how easy/clever one can create doubt. Just a minute fraction of doubt and, BINGO, what appeared a foregone conclusion turned completely the other way round. Why, that defense attorney could even have stated the child attempted to kill her mother and the mother killed her child in self defence and the jury may have succumbed to DOUBT. Though highly unlikely, ANYTHING is possible.
13 likesYeah but only one of them put her down.
3 likes@Taco Monster everybody has the right to an attourney. somebody's gotta do the job.
31 likesTaco Monster just an input on your comment, I know a few defense lawyers as good friends, and they themselves have said that if it wasn’t their job, they wouldn’t do it. Doesn’t make it right - but they told me that when defending a guilty person of whatever crime, it’s not something that they want to do. But it’s how they care for their family too. Touchy topic. But you’re not wrong. It isn’t right. People who do things like what happened in this video do not deserve defense.
14 likes@Adam Craft I disagree with your last sentence. The way this country was built is so that every single person has the right to a defense in court. Once a line is made, it is too easy to keep moving it. That becomes a slippery slope. First it would be "well Casey (allegedly, and she was found not guilty btw, so not even allegedly at this point) killed her daughter so obviously we shouldn't give her a chance at defending herself." Then it turns into "well the guy obviously r*ped her, she said he did. No defense for him." Or "she clearly robbed that place, no need for a trial. Hang her."
35 likesNo matter how guilty a person may seem of a crime, they should be able to defend themselves. There are many cases of people wrongly convicted, innocent people who go to jail for several years. Could you imagine how much that number would sky rocket if people had the attitude of "people like blank don't deserve a defence" hindsight is always 20-20. It's super easy to look back now and say Casey didn't deserve a defense. But it isn't easy to say where that stops.
I thought this story messed me up and then Chris Watts came long.
15 likes@Taco Monster It's a job, dude.
6 likes@Taco Monster you can’t hold it against the lawyers, they are soldiers for hire. They do what their told unless they are asked to partake in a crime.
8 likesShe killed that poor baby! If she was abused by her dad there’s no way she’d bring her child in to that house
12 likes@Meredith S. There is 0 doubt she killed that poor baby. How the heck did she get not guilty there is so much evidence against her. God I hate media.
11 likes@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected The prosecutors dropped the ball… There’s not a mother alive that would let their child be missing for 30days and not ask for help.
13 likes@Meredith S. God that prosecutor must have sucked so bad. there was so much circumstancial evidence and even physical blood lol. Wtf more you need.
11 likes@Taco Monster every person in america has the right to an attorney guilty or not, an attorney is not an accomplice for simply fulfilling someone's given right.
7 likes@Meredith S. or father. The only parent that would behave in this way is not anyone worthy to be a parent.
4 likes@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected agreed
0 likes@Taco Monster wheres your heart,I understand what she did was wrong but noone decides death but GOD
0 likesYeah, it's a lie that Casey started and the lawyer only continued it. Can't be too mad at the guy and even if you are there's no legal repercussion for him, because if Casey was held accountable for her killing, the lawyer would just say "I didnt know". He probably has much more moral baggage anyway, you can hear the guilt in his voice way more than Casey's. He knew what he was doing.
4 likesThe grandparents didnt know Caylee was missing, what could they have done? They were enabling with the high school thing but that's pretty unimportant, and considering everyone (except the jury apparently) knows what actually happened, I doubt the parents continue to support her. They were way more urgent than Casey, especially considering Casey's plan was to just forget about her daughters "drowning" and never tell a soul.
1 like@Taco Monster "that 'tis much more Prudence to acquit two Persons, tho' actually guilty, than to pass Sentence of Condemnation on one that is virtuous and innocent."
2 likes@colin hoban I wish Caylee could've just been raised by her grandmother. She'd probably be alive and okay now because it's clear she cared about her way more than her mother did.
5 likes@Taco Monster Sociopaths are victims
0 likesNobody born like that they were created with how the environment dumped at them
@Huyen Nguyen once made it’s done. Nothing else to do but take them out of this world where they could only harm society.
0 likes@Taco Monster that’s literally their JOB wtf
1 like@Taco Monster this dude never heard of the bill of rights
1 like@Taco Monster i understand where you are coming from, defending these monsters is a tough job.
3 likesIn a perfect world the job of a defense attorney is to make sure the procurators are doing their job correctly. So they don't lie and cheat they system.
I know the world isn't perfect, but it's what I want the world to believe
@Jeremy Purdon yes, that should be their job. To make sure they get a fair trial and the law is followed. The problem is a bunch of those crocks are there to make shit up just to get their client out.
2 likesThe ones appointed by the state are usually not too bad as “it is their job” and have to do so even if they believe their client may be guilty. The ones paid by the defendant are there to make money and to get their client out regardless if they are guilty or not.
@Taco Monster yo, Theyre just doing their job and someone has to defend her. Nobody can’t have a lawyer unless they choose to defend themselves. Calm down
1 like@Huyen Nguyen yea poor Casey
0 likes@Taco Monster I don't know how they live with themselves, I'm a piece of shit most time but those people...wtf do you get from it?
0 likes@Eli The1 well, God and Casey decide death, it seems.
0 likes@Taco Monster to be faur, thats litterally their job in the ameican legal system. everyone is always entitled to an attorney by law, no matter who the person is.
1 like@Taco Monster Everyone has the right to a fair trial, regardless of how clear cut a case is, because it means they will also receive fair punishment. Corrupt individuals in the judiciary system are far more deranged
1 like@Adam Craft I disagree, everyone should have the right to defense themselves in court, no matter what they did (especially if they are not solid evidence against them). I mean, even nazis had a trial too!.
1 likeCaylee is in the hands of God but where her mom will go, well she will have justice one day.
0 likes@Taco Monster No. She’s allowed defense, that is law. You can look at him as a incompetent, although I agree with you that he is a creep.
0 likesHe also cannot be called an accomplice as he did not have anything to do with Caylee’s passing; he didn’t know Casey before all this. She was not alive at the time her mother called 911
What do you mean?
0 likes@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected It was a big deal here… I had friends that went to the courthouse. They Said the prosecution dropped the ball
0 likesMurphys law all the way down...
1 likeEverything bad did happen.
@Taco Monster the attorney is doing their job. While I don’t agree with defending a murderer, every American citizen is allowed to hire an attorney and Caycie hired a very good one. Ultimately it is the decision of the prosecution based with the evidence at hand, and they decided on Caycie‘s sentence . Also just doing their jobs. Again, not defending a murderer, just defending our legal system as it protects us. Well it does if you’re white
1 likeI've never seen a bigger disappointment than that jury
1 likePeople can say what they want. This is why I am grateful that there will be Judgement Day. God will reward all those who did good and got no credit and punish all those who did evil and got no justice.
0 likes@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected I still prefer Chris Watts than this. Smh. At least he eventually admitted it.
0 likes@Brian Lee is that Brian Griffin from the family guy?
0 likesI guess you'll hate me for this opinion, but I think they made the right decision. There was no direct evidence. This is how the legal system works and it's the only way you can establish a certain degree of justice. So that the evidence counts and not just our gut feeling. My own gut feeling also tells me that she's at least an accomplice in whatever happened. But my gut feeling is based on her being off, being not normal. We can't be judgemental in a law system just because people don't appear normal, have their own traumatic history, personality disorders. All of this can not be considered a contribution to direct evidence. It can contribute to our understanding if a person is a lier. She obviously lies in one line. So we can't take her word for anything. But this doesn't make the evidence more than it is. You can't just say that someone is guilty because they are a bad person, non adapters, even antisocial. Even antisocial people are human and deserve the same rights. Not saying that this one is antisocial though. I think a psychiatrist would have their full share with this one. It's unfortunate that many law systems just distinguish between guilty and not guilty. She at least had a co-responsibility. I think she needs and deserves help from a psychiatric facility. If she had gotten this help before giving birth to a child, this death might have been prevented. It makes me angry how many children have to grow up under the parenting of parents who can't even manage their own lives, who get children for selfish reasons, because a baby is such a cute thing, like a pet, or who need a purpose in life, who need to fill a void, and a child is the perfect candidate to fill a void. They don't get children because they think that they are the perfect candidates to develop a child and provide the support that a child deserves. They don't look into the future and what the future needs. They look at themselves and what they want. They want children. It's their own desire. This is why child abuse is far more common than anyone can imagine. Children can't protect themselves, they don't know how to respond because they don't know what's normal and what not, they don't understand their own rights. So there must be a huge gray number, beyond the huge number we already know, when it gets reported. We only get to see the worst of the worst, but abuse has many shades. Nobody really cares fixing the real causes. All they can do is blame someone, like it's nobody's co-responsibility within a society to contribute to a healthy environment for children. Abuse is an inherited phenomenon. The chain has to be interrupted at one point.
0 likes@Taco Monster By law, every person has a right to an attorney. That is why defense attorneys are necessary. So shut up lol
0 likes@Taco Monster I understand the fact that you are most probably young and don’t understand the justice system works 🤔👍😂
0 likes@Taco Monster It's literally their job. The attorney presents the case and deals with their legal stuff. They aren't actually "defending" them in the way you seem to think they are. Defense attorneys are the messenger and make sure they get due process. I get wanting to hate everyone involved, but lawyers are just trying to make sure their clients have rights. They're trying to get the case solved just as much as anyone else. I'm sure those lawyers hate their clients just as much as everyone else does, but they do it because it's their job and their client needs due process. Not to say some lawyers don't put aside morals just to win the case...
0 likesYep.... Her parents have a lot to answer for in the development of her character.... Letting her get away with stuff, no boundaries, no ramifications for her actions. Lying for her...graduation party..?! Police officer father?!...joke.
1 likeThey will all answer to god. That poor little girl. Any real human can clearly see the mother did it. The jury failed that girl and will burn with the mother.
0 likesHer lawyer had to know she was guilty… when dealing with a real TODDLER murderer, you gotta just get paid and throw the case… HE KNEW SHE DID IT, and defended her and lied for the money… for a child killer
1 likeI wish I could go back and bring that little girl to the future with me
0 likes@kube they defend Casey
0 likesyea its so dumb. she at least deserved justice.
0 likes@stuck inside Yeah but then her lawyer basically set her dad up as a rapist and mom as a person that ignored that with no evidence and the court seemed to be on his side the whole time. Thats the worst part they were with her the whole time even when she was lying and now she lied about them abusing her to have an excuse for killing a baby. Ridiculous
2 likes@Taco Monster How is it the defence attorney’s fault? It’s literally their job to give their clients the best shot they have.
1 likeThey will wait for their karma to come
0 likes@thesnackbandit if it had been your child, wouldn't you wish that the murderer got the right punishment?
0 likes@Lea H Ofcourse, but Karma is not a real thing lmao
0 likes@Taco Monster Defense Attorneys are there for anyone who is at risk in a court of law. They have a job to do unfortunately.
0 likesBruh u everywhere, see u over on TKO allllll the time
0 likes@Taco Monster every body even criminal deserves legal defense. It's the prosecutor's duty to convince the jury. if the prosecutor can't do his job, don't blame the defense attorney.
0 likesI blame the media for releasing the info on the jurors. Anyone in that situation would just go with the first suggestions during deliberation in order to reach an end sooner
0 likesNo more heros..
0 likes@renee Not if theyre lying to give her a lesser sentence.
0 likesIncluding her grand parents.
0 likesThis was probably the most poorly planned murder i've heard about and she still managed to get herself proved not guilty.crazy.
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Goes to show how good her attorney was…..
127 likes@Cars and Video Games or how flawed the Jury system is. Honestly I think the average person is too biased and ignorant for the job.
356 likes@j.c man how there wasn’t enough evidence
7 likes@j.c man yeah im sure that women get convicted WAY less for violent crimes
33 likes@j.c man lawyers and judges them selves are generally not allowed to be in a jury. the system claims they may be too biased against a defendant. But i dont think that makes sense. theyre the most trained people when it comes to logical thinking, they literally have to take a test on it to get into law school, they should be the ones in a jury. maybe even exclusively
49 likes@Dillon Teevan yeah, i think it's just too out there for an average person to believe it to be the truth
1 like@Sharangan S In Finland, where I live, we have what are called layman judges, they're ordinary people who volunteer to participate in court cases. They receive a sort of mini-law school education before beginning, which helps them detect and resist manipulative tactics, avoid bias and view the case in a more professional and objective manner. Then at court there are 2 professional judges and 3 layman judges, and they vote between each other on guilty or not guilty, and what the sentence should be. I think this system works fine, the court cases aren't a circus here where the attorneys make up nonsense and try to appeal to emotions because they know that won't work. The cases focus on evidence and facts. I like it a lot more than the American version
58 likes@Exantius E That makes me feel safer, since i'm currently living in Finland, thank you.
4 likes@Exantius E Idk that seems just as bad. In both cases your life is in the hands of random people. Except in your case, the laymen technically could, I’m assuming, overrule the real judges since it’s a 3-2 vote. In the jury system, if the jury makes a crazy ruling, the judge can overrule it.
6 likes@Derek G If the laymen judges come up with a "crazy" judgement, the defence/prosecution (whoever was wronged) can appeal to a higher court and even further to the supreme court, neither of which have laymen in them. Besides, it's way easier to mislead the twelve jury members than the three layman judges because of the training they receive. And the practice you referred to, the judge overturning the verdict, almost never happens anyways so that's kind of a moot argument
14 likes@Exantius E this makes perfect sense. that adds up and sounds fair.
5 likesShe probably blew the judge
0 likesI mean if OJ can do it….
2 likesAs I recall, the state couldn't prove how the girl died. If you want to convict someone of murdering her you will need to prove she was murdered to begin with. There are ways to do that. If there isn't sufficient evidence to establish cause of death then you'll need something like a confession. She didn't confess so now what? People say we 'know' she did it, but that's not evidence.
1 likeAmerica!
2 likesthe same defence attorney got Aaron hernandez off of 2 murder charges:///
2 likes@Sharangan S that's how democracy works, your fate is in the hands of ignorant people all the time
2 likes@Exantius E It's a completely different set of values. The foundation of the process in America stems from a fundamental mistrust in the institution of government, elected or otherwise, which is why cases are not typically judged by nothing but appointed bureaucrats and laypeople hand-picked by politicians and political parties like they are in Finland.
0 likesShe gave everyone on the jury some of that pot she was smoking with her boyfriend when things were still going "good" for her
1 like@Taylor Griffith well I wonder who I’ll believe a random person on YouTube or a jury and a judge
0 likesjustice is dead. She would have been taken from police custody and hung in the streets if justice was still alive
5 likes@j.c man Agreed. Putting the average persons to decide these things are very wierd. Since the average human are not very bright.
1 like@j.c man her attorney was good tho. Hes gotten off worse people. Look up his history. She got a good lawyer. But yes the system is also flawed
2 likesit wasn’t murder it was neglect.
1 likeThe way she speaks to her best friend gave me chills. She’s a narcissistic brat and that child deserved so much better.
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I agree and I believe her lawyer should also be in jail for lying so much
20 likesThe best friend wouldve been a good mother to that little girl. She cared so much
37 likes@Nancy Flores unfortunately money is stronger than the law
1 likeHoly fuck when she's talking about her to her parents aswell 😳
2 likesthe defense literally opened with “she died in a pool” and closed with “we will never know how she died”
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I think he meant how she ended up in the pool
455 likes@Shane Chartrand but her body was found in a swamp?? The defense is looking for all the facts yet they they ignore that one
1765 likesHow did she die then mate?
32 likes@Nicholas Costa bro she had duct tape on her body and Casey literally looked up “fool proof suffocation” that’s basically like finding a book in the library called “murder for dummies”
1694 likes@Nigganese Beans Bro no I wasn’t disputing that. I just thought this bloke’s comment made no sense because, “she died in a pool,” does not reveal the cause of death like he was trying to imply.
103 likesIs not for the defense to prove how she died, their job is to prove their client didn't do it, regardless how she died
95 likes@Coltafanan Studios her defense might try to have her charged with inappropriate handling and/or disposal of a corpse as well as several other smaller charges rather than something as huge as the murder of a child
44 likesLike WHAT THE FUCK
27 likes@Toxscik Atleast someone understood the psychology ......
107 likesmh-hmmm
11 likes@Maker Syed seriously? "Her defense" WILL NOT try to have her charged with anything. They are HER 'defense team'. Surely you meant 'the prosecution', or the 'DA's office'. Right? Thanks
19 likesThere's a duck tape found in her skeleton and then say they died in the pool?????? And then the lawyer continues to say "we will never know how she dies" FULL BS
111 likes@treylem3 No, they meant the defense, if unable to get all charges dropped, would at least prefer it reduced to a lesser charge.
23 likesthe defense is the reason she's not in prison right now. They fucked up and they should be held accountable for letting a murderer go.
62 likesand yet her bones were found in a swamp with duck tape covering her face, nose, and mouth?????? i am very confused
26 likes@Lindsey O’Hara The defence says that the girl drowned in the pool and casey panicked and disposed of the body in the swamp. But thats not what happened, casey suffocated her daughter with duct tape and disposed of her in the swamp.
72 likesPeople have the attention span of a damn amoeba
32 likes@Lindsey O’Hara I think the defense was claiming that her daughter died in a pool and she tried to hide the body in the swamp so that it's no longer murder but mishandling a corpse, but like... with duct tape over her face, nose and mouth? It was all bullshit to build doubt around whether she committed the murder or not. It was to build doubt, not to exonerate her, just make everything blurry. And it tragically worked.
57 likes@Sandy Kat I mean that's what the defense is supposed to do, those are the rules of this game and they played it really well and it totally sucks.
39 likes@Marko Bighead well wasnt proof because of the masterful manipulation by the defense team… I wonder if Casey came up with that last part too
7 likes@Shane Chartrand that doesn’t make any sense. If a child dies in your pool, most likely there was some negligence involved. Either murder, intentionally drowning, or bad parenting and not watching your 3 year old when she falls in the deep end of a pool
23 likesDo juries have access to the case tapes prior to decision making?
7 likes@Ayoub Innis That's not at all correct.
25 likesThe job of the Defense is NOT to prove anything one way or the other. That is entirely the job of the Prosecutor.
The job of the Defense is to poke enough holes in the Prosecutor's evidence as to cause reasonable doubt.
The Prosecutor is making a claim (of murder in this case), and it is solely their job to prove their claim to be correct. However, if the Defense legitimately has evidence that can prove innocence, then that definitely helps their own case. But it's not the job of the Defense to prove anything.
@sophia Cort Typically, yes. It would be considered as evidence. The problem is that the tapes don't actually prove anything other than she acts differently than a "normal" person. At the end of the day the Prosecution couldn't prove anything, and the Defense was clearly able to throw enough doubt into the mix to cause the jury to not go with the Prosecution.
32 likesWe all "know" (assume/think/etc) that Casey Anthony killed her daughter (or maybe it was her boyfriend even) and disposed of the body in the swamp. But us having a strong feeling about it, and being able to prove it are very different things, and the court doesn't care about your feelings.
White privilege saved her
31 likes@Paranitis the constant lies to cover her tracks
4 likesIf you look it up the jury was not convinced that the duct tape didn't fall off the bag she was placed in and the suffocation search was never presented likely because it would be countered by showing george lied about when he left the house.
2 likesi questioned, if she died in the pool why would she still decide to put the body in the swamp but then I came to the realization that I’m guessing they didn’t come back with more proof of her involvement? Maybe I need to watch more but I hope it was revisited!
1 likeI thought the defense said we will never know how she died.
1 like@Bell Brambelles i’m still watching this but couldn’t they prove that’s not true by seeing whether there’s chlorine in caylee’s lungs? and how does that explain why she tried to suffocate her with duct tape and looked up techniques? if she drowned in the pool, why would she need to suffocate her? i’m so confused so far
25 likes@Ayoub Innis Yeah exactly,
3 likes‘
Understandably, A lot of people verdict/sentencing forcase like this.
That said, I think the jury did kinda mess this up.....despite the state having a few “setbacks"
@PanPan lmao the entire family even hugged after the father just sat there like 👁️👄👁️
8 likes@PanPan That's been disproven. Casey is a pathological liar.
16 likes@Ayoub Innis after searching suffocation and the tape - i don’t understand how it can be said she didn’t IF she knows they ‘died in THEIR pool’
11 likesthis seems fixed
@Paranitis they should’ve explained her lies to the jury and the polices biggest unanswered questions!!
4 likes@C Henry bones
2 likes@PanPan probably not. You saw the damage it did to his daughter. Her mind is twisted
3 likes@PanPan the evidence has shown that the child was found in a swamp, with duct tape over her mouth and nose so she would suffocate. the defense has brought up that the child instead drowned in a pool.
3 likesThere was sufficient evidence, forensic could prove that the body of the child was in the boot. It had the smell of a decomposed human as mentioned. Also maybe her phone location could be traced back to the swamp. Some neighbourhood CCTV, etc... there's so much more to investigate. The case was closed too fast on emotional ground.
23 likes@Zu I don't know why you are yelling at me. But there's a lot of "shoulda/coulda/woulda" with this case. The Prosecution did a terrible job and Casey Anthony got off. That's all it comes down to. We all believe she is guilty to some degree, but we don't decide these things, the jury does. And the jury can only decide based off the evidence, and not emotions. Which is why the Defense was so good at the end to try to beat it over their head that it's about facts and not emotions. Which in itself is also an appeal to emotion, because it causes people to second-guess their own judgment.
15 likesThey should have brought all these inconsistency’s up in the closing argument . Shame on the state
10 likes@PanPan there was never any proof her dad abused her. That was a lie the defense used to make jury feel sorry for her.
16 likes@PanPan The father abusing her was lies made up by Casey to put the blame on her father!
8 likes@Ayoub Innis more like: throw so much smoke and mirrors into the air that easily impressionable people can no longer know anything beyond a reasonable doubt.
9 likes@Marko Bighead yeah but her peers were Floridians sooo....
3 likes@PanPan i believe the story of her father abusing her as a kid was another lie/made up fabrication from Casey...im pretty certain i saw a dateline special a few years ago where her parents blatantly denied all allegations stated they were heartbroken again and were not speaking with their daughter- but dont quote me 100% i might be off with the timeline and never followed it up
5 likesThis video didn't talk about it much but they found the body with duct tape over the mouth.
4 likesPretty odd way for a child to drown.
@PanPan Basically she killed her daughter and dumped her in the swamp. The defense claimed that the kid drowned in the pool and she was so traumatized by her father's abuse that she didn't want to admit that her daughter died. Forgetting the fact that there is no evidence for the abuse. The psychologists found no evidence of trauma and that she was mentally fine. Also she lied to the police which is in and of itself a felony.
16 likesThe problem was the Jury. This case was so widely publicized that they couldn't find an unbiased jury of her peers. The only people they could find were basically people who were only going to find her not guilty.
9 likesEveryone else in America knew she was guilty. It was only the Jury who thought she wasn't.
@PanPan oh I totally agree.
1 likeHes trying his best to save a killer cuz he has to. I would never be able to do that.
6 likes3:59 It's John Gotti
0 likes@PanPan he looks like John Gotti
0 likes@PanPan I will address the concept of subduing of the animals and plantation as a Gift from God later. YOu can check out Genesis 1 and 2 that goes into this.
1 likeHowever, I want to address one major point of contention that I have with that statement that you just made.
"We are good people"
How exactly do you know that with full confidence and assurance? May I ask you why you think you are an all morally good person? What if I were to tell you that none are good but God? That all men have sinned against the Glory of God?
@PanPan Wait, back up a second. By what merit of evidence exists to show that God is bad? If you are going to bring up the dead Logical Problem of Evil philosophical problem that has been resolved tons of time and literally died back in the 60s, then you are going to need to bring up something more substantial as that problem from even Atheist's scholars and philosophers alike have found that argument to be precarious and counterintuitive in every manner.
0 likesAlso, what do you mean by God is a man-made concept? Do you understand the nature of metaphysical principles, universal abstract objects, and ontological identities? I want to ask before I go into this in case you don't understand. I can even break down the concepts into simpler manageable size pieces so you can understand through normative categorical nomenclature. I want to ask you a question to propagate this discussion further. Are numbers an abstract concept? How do you differentiate the phenomenological concept from the actual abstract-universal numerical individual quantifier? In other words, how do you know what a "one" is within terms of linguistics as opposed to the actual metaphysical universal object?
@Ayoub Innis Their job is to cast doubt, which they did very well by adding an entirely unforeseen dynamic to the case. The prosecutions job is to present evidence that proves guilt. "Burden of proof is on the state" as they say.
3 likes@PanPan It is not a problem! Mind if wepick this up later on tonight? It is almost 3:40 am where I am. I have to get up early in a few hours.
1 likeI understand as I am a man of science as well. We can talk later on tonight if that works for you. I want to inquiry into your scientific introspections and intuitions as well to branch out further from Agnostic to potentially a more certified subscribed view.
In the US you have to tell a story and convince some jury instead of bringing proof. Its a fucking joke
4 likes@PanPan No because its a completely false narrative to try and place blame away from her and muddy the water for the jurors. This video shows Casey has no regard for anyone but herself and is a pathalogical liar. If her father really was abusive her whole life why we should still allow her young daughter any contact with her abuser?
6 likes@Jehoon Seo me neither. He didn't seem like he had a problem with it at all. I saw a video of her a few years ago. She's involved with one of the lawyers that worked on her case. Like living with him. Not the main one but an older man.
3 likes@C Henry I guess you would have a hard time finding traces of chlorine in a month old skeleton.
2 likes@PanPan I am not talking about the bible here. I want to hear now why do you hold to an Agnostic view here? What are your views on Ethics?
0 likes@Nicholas Costa But he didn’t just say “she died in a pool”, he said she drowned in the pool
0 likes@Aspen Hackbarth No mate, the guy we're replying to 😂
0 likes@Toxscik his reaction when he heard the not guilty verdict like honesty he knows she’s a lying pos
2 likes@PanPan He hasn't been punished for her abusing her as there wasn't any evidence that he did so. It's just egregious defamation and illegal hearsay the defense threw in to make her more sympathetic. People don't like convicting people they feel sorry for, even if it has nothing to do with the case at all. Furthermore, there likely never will be any evidence that he did so since she knows if he's charged with abusing her, and found not guilty, that could be enough new evidence to allow for a retrial.
2 likes@sophia Cort Yes. "Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law" means that anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
2 likes@PanPan Yeah, I really don't know why they don't test jurors on IQ and EQ beforehand.
3 likesif she died in a pool why did she end up in the swamp those juries were fucking crazy to say shes innocent
3 likesExactly - we know how she died, the duct tape on her nose and mouth put there by her mother who Googled foolproof suffocation.
3 likes@shhhhheeeezhzhhzh Their argument would be that she fist died in the pool, and then was moved to the swamp. Because even if that' still a million crimes it's a million with a lesser sentence than first degree murder. Though how this explains the google search, duct tape, or motive is still anybody's guess.
2 likes@C Henry they found a skeleton where tf are they gonna find lungs
4 likes@Siemen Kooijman lmfao or like traces in the bone??? idk man
1 like@C Henry I dont think they injected chlorine in her bones im afraid its doomed.
0 likes@C Henry also it was like 2008 so it wouldve been even harder.
2 likesI am suprised they couldnt find any DNA in the car but idk
How and where are two different things
0 likes@PanPan another lie from his daughter
0 likes@Elizabeth Baker - OJ got off bc the prosecutors were sloppy. No such thing as black privilege. But you already knew that 😏
2 likes@Elizabeth Baker Ok Liz 😊
2 likes@Elizabeth Baker *you’re
0 likesWtf... died in a pool means drowned. Simple as that
0 likes@Nura Weyteh she didn’t die in the pool.
2 likesTask failed succsesfully
0 likes@Sandy Kat the defende did his job right. It's the prosecution's fault for letting that happen
2 likes@PanPan and no one said nothing, mum didn’t report that... abusing his own kids.. I think the father lied to save her monster daughter... all three should be behind bars mum, dad and absolutely her.. when I was listened that was like OMG no one says nothing about that...
1 like@Toxscik yeah, if her family was abusive why would they throw her a graduation party even though her parents prolly knew she still fucked up
0 likesIf she died in a pool, Why didn't she say that to the detectives when they started to accuse her of murder. And the duct tape , the internet searches, the lack of emotion about her daughter. She's so guilty.
1 like@Toxscik and it infuriates me that he says “don’t convict on anger and emotion, the media is making you hate Cayley and comvicting based on emotion is unfair to Cayley!!” But then uses child hood SA to garner empathy for the fucking murderer!!!! God this whole case just has me fucking fuming
3 likes@Coltafanan Studios Defence isn’t looking for facts. They’re highlighting the lack of completeness of evidence. Masterful manipulation by the defence.
3 likes@Sandy Kat In a fucked up sort of way I don’t feel that the world is less safe with her out there. The whole time it felt to me like she killed her child simply because she didn’t want to deal with the inconvenience that the child was to her. No regular relationship with another human would provide that sort of inconvenience, so I wouldn’t expect her to be a serial killer or something like that. Regardless though, I absolutely agree. The fact that she did not receive some punishment is completely unjust, and this whole situation is one of the most chilling things I’ve ever seen.
1 like@Gavin Porco - Funny how “defense attorneys” can only do this for white people. But keep thinking that 🤣
1 like@Aby Rodriguez If a person has learned that pretending life is normal will work for them, I can completely see how one could have their daughter die naturally, then think that as long as she was missing the people around her wouldn’t view her negatively, which would then justify trying to dispose of the body and then moving on with her life. With that said, I think she killed her daughter.
0 likes@C Henry They said the skeleton was recovered, I don’t know about the rest.
0 likes@Gavin Porco I definitely agree
0 likes@Phyuck Yiu I don’t think many defence attorneys could do this period. He was excellent.
1 like@Tanel Viil I don’t think the jury can be blamed. The defence attorney manipulated their perception masterfully.
0 likes@Gavin Porco she lied about literally everything. All evidence pointed to her. She showed absolutely no remorse for her daughter’s death. The defense says “we don’t know how she died” then later says she died in a pool. The defense was absolutely shit. What are you talking about? Lmao
3 likes@Treasure Mage I think the motive was not wanting to deal with the inconvenience of having a child. She was free to party after and wrote that in the diary. Makes sense to me. She’d been conditioned into being so pathological that her daughters well-being was only a disruption in her own life. That’s my theory.
0 likes@Phyuck Yiu If you believe that I don’t think you understand how psychology works. Which is a very vague way to say that, but I don’t care to be super precise with the wording at the moment. Literally every person here is talking about how excellent the defence was, I’m not sure which part you’re disagreeing with. The defence said she died in a pool, then said to the jury, you cannot possibly know how she died because there is not clear evidence to show the exact course of action. He said this immediately after getting them to question their own philosophy as to what guilty and not guilty means, which he preceded by garnering their sympathy for her as well as pointing out how the prosecution absolutely fucked up by focusing on her character instead of the evidence for any portion of the trial. The psychological understanding and ability to manipulate displayed by the defence was astounding.
1 like@Gavin Porco - I ain’t reading all that shit lmao. But I’m happy for you. Or sorry that happened
2 likes@Phyuck Yiu The job of the defence isn’t to prove she died in a pool. It’s solely to make people question if they are 100% sure she didn’t, or if they are 99.9% sure she didn’t. Because the difference between those two is a free person and a dead person. The jury would’ve been too preoccupied with weighing the consequence of their potential killing of an innocent woman to be able to focus on the smaller details that would’ve been more damning, but due to the pressure of the moment could have been overlooked as a result of their emotional bias.
1 like@Gavin Porco Ye I think that's clearly what happened as well. What I meant though is that the alternate scenario posited by the defense, where she died in the pool before being moved, doesn't make much sense at all. Accidental drownings happen. They're not an impossibility. But when they're discovered what innocent people do is attempt attempt fist aid while calling ambulance ASAP. Being worried they might be charged with something is the absolute last thing that would go through a mother's mind. She only has a motive for not calling an ambulance, but instead driving to dump her if she was the one that killed her.
0 likes@Marko Bighead No. He specifically said "this evidence gathered painting a picture of her being a party girl, a sl**t, is just a trick to stir up emotion, but the fact of the matter is that this is not evidence" He clearly avoided the very obvious evidence of the duck tape, and only attacked the party images cuz it would be stupid to call visual evidence of the victim not evidence at all.
1 like@Sandy Kat the defense’s JOB is to Defend the client. Keeping her out of prison means they did a great job. That’s how it works
0 likeswe can never PROVE how she died
1 likeHe said "it can never be proven" tho. Knowing something and proving it are two different things. Like I know what I was doing today morning but I can't prove it because I was home alone. The sad thing is this comment got 10k likes. Just shows how many people don't even trying to use brain.
1 like@Zu Definitely fixed!
0 likeshow did they not get her on ANY charges... IE: lying to the police or in this case actually interfering with an investigation...etc. Seems like if nothing else something could have gotten her some type of jail time. Hell. If anyone normally interfers or lies to the police something happens. You lie in court, you're held in contemp, so I'n not understanding how through all the lies and clear deception nothing was able to get her some time at all..
0 likesThe US Jury system is a joke!
1 likeLol ridiculous
0 likesthat's the level of confusion necessary I suppose to create more questions in their head but in such a smooth manner that they don't even realize
0 likesWhere and how are 2 different issues
0 likesThey literally changed the story in the middle of the court and the verdict is still not guilty... Wow
0 likesThere are so many proves in that case that isn't worth wondering how to explain this or that...it's just the stupidity of the jury who made that possible
0 likes@Ayoub Innis This is the problem with having juries, they're gullible and dumb, they just look past the key evidence
0 likes@NewShockerGuy sounds like they didn't charge her with the smaller ones
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0 likes@Bonnie No, it just that those are not really contradicting statements.
2 likesIn opening, the defender provided his version of what happened, just as the prosecutor did.
In the end, he refers to the fact that prosecutor was not able to provide a solid prove of their version, but neither he proved his. But defender never had a goal to prove his version - his goal was only to show, that prosecution doesn't have a solid prove that defendant killed her child.
Thus, the both statements he made are not in contradiction.
@Nigganese Beans the duct tape ON her body was actually a myth, mate.
1 likeShe might have did in a pool. There is a lot of reasonable doubt. Especially with the things har dad used to do to her.
0 likes@Coltafanan Studios I think they're saying that after she had "drowned in the pool" they had tried to hide her body in the swamp
0 likesNo one as blind as the willfully blind
0 likesThat is in fact all the Defense had to do, present one scenario that might have possibly happened, and end with you don’t know for sure, and there is questions, burden of proofs lays with prosecution,
0 likesI am as sicken with this as with the other one where the crazy teenage bitch kill her kid and buried it in the backyard and got off, personally I think the American law system is trying to make a statement
200 IQ play
0 likesSmart defence lawyer, stupid jury.
1 like@Username
0 likesStupid jury. They can so easily be swayed and have to have 100% consensus? Asinine.
@barbara seymour yeah, it's shit
0 likes@barbara seymour I wouldn’t blame it on the jury, the Defense did put up probable doubt, the prosecution thought what they had was enough and didn’t get more and wasn’t prepared to plug all the holes in the story,
0 likes@Toxscik especially coming from the lawyer that said "don't make decisions based on emotional value"
0 likes@C Henry i think the body was too decomposed to look for chlorine in the lungs or any other substances
0 likes@Triangular good point
0 likes@Poizon Ivy if there is white privilege , there is black, brown, yellow , cause most people work for their privilege , your part of the problem my dear.
0 likes@Poizon Ivy Karen Karen Karen go play. I can have my own opinion . Thank you very much.
0 likes@Poizon Ivy - Elizabeth is clearly a troll. Which is why I didn’t respond to the ignorance. Never get random ppl on the internet your time & energy 😂
0 likes@Ayoub Innis but they used kaylee dying in a pool as evidence that kasey didn't murder her.
0 likesOnly issue is that they never proved that the evidence was actually real or tangible
Casey is innocent. There's no physical evidence that she did something with Kaylee, she's just a congenital liar. Leave this poor woman alone she lost her child.
0 likesTrue!
0 likesAlso, while his closing argument included "(we will never know what happened)", his address to the media claimed that the murderer didn't kill her daughter.
0 likes@Bonnie what is the documented attention span of an amoeba. They could actually be very focused organisms. I seriously don’t believe we know
0 likes@Sandy Kat it is the job of a defense attorney to defend a client without prejudice, it is the job of the prosecution to prosecute without prejudice and the job of the jury to come to a verdict based on the evidence presented. Lawyers are not guilty of their clients crimes
0 likes😂😂😂💀💀
0 likesI know this is sad but I can’t but laughing.I’m not laughing at cayley I’m laughing at how fucking stupid their defense was
0 likesThey know where not how it happened idk
0 likes"She wasn't an event coordinator, she stood behind a kiosk and sold photos to people after they had been on the incredible hulk ride."
13216 likesdamn, my man is hitting below the belt today.
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115 likesBro I love Jim's slight underhand jabs.
277 likes@JustIntricate his jabs are so subtle too. Love it!
102 likesThis was before the Marvel boom. That probably was seen as the shittiest job in the park back then.
149 likesEven though Casey is trash, I feel bad for innocent people who have that job, I would go mad from boredom.
76 likesI nearly died laughing when he said this
33 likesLol bro !
2 likesBODIED
3 likesFather Gregori Well they’re sort of the same thing, she coordinates the Photographic recordkeeping of peoples experience on the Incredible Hulk ride. See I can think like her as well.
6 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likes@ignignokt - 👏👏👏👏
1 likeYeah and shes considering having a child again.
6 likesIt makes you wonder what she was thinking when she led them down the corridor at " work"? Was she thinking, "ok,, maybe after the 4th door we pass they will tell me , never mind Casey... you led us past 6 rooms now, there is no reason you would take us to the end of a corridor for no reason at all.. we believe you Casey, let's all go home and call this a wrap. Thanks for taking us this far"
27 likesHey man, it's the truth!
0 likesWhile it is a low blow, the point was to establish even further that everything out of her mouth is a lie.
7 likesAnyone who has been on the ride knows it kicks ass!
2 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likesI know I felt the DAMN!
1 like😂🤣🤣
0 likesI laughed so hard when I heard that LMAOOO
2 likesI lol'ed, I probably saw her at Universal, been on that ride a million times.
2 likesDo you sympathize?
0 likesI had a similiar job, selling car wax at a gas station ans they called me an event coordinator.../smh
3 likesJim threw in a barb that the Mrs and I caught in an episode betwixt a JCS binge. The episode of the guy that shot at the car of three teens during the gas station altercation. He throws in a bit about how the dude stayed the following morning at the hotel to enjoy "a FREE LIGHT BREAKFAST". Incredulity over that decision in lieu of the previous night. It was glorious. Regards for excess context and all that there. Y'all be safe out and about!
4 likesOh I believe she was an "event coordinator," just maybe not coordinating the events they think she is. She definitely coordinated the event of her child going missing and turning up dead. They always speak with a double tongue.
2 likesNot really. Murdering a three year old is though.
1 like@Tristin Hamilton please tell me you're kidding!?? 🤯
2 likesSome people just shouldn't be allowed to be parents by law..
@Petra Lehto no joke, read it in an interview shes had just last year
0 likes@Fizazle Bedazzled What...?
0 likesI beg to differ. Juliette Lewis DOES exist.
5 likesTbh.... she killed her own child sooo lol
0 likes@Petra Lehto Casey Anthony picking a guy up at a bar: "Hey, wanna go to a hotel and hook up?" Fellow: "Oh, uh... I don't have any uh... protection, you know?" Casey: "Totally not a problem. Don't worry about it!"
7 likes@Last yeah baby have you seen her in The Other Sister and Kalifornia? She's the best!!
1 likeYes thats called coordinating the event (ride)
0 likes‘Facts are facts’ lol
0 likesyou should look at all the casey videos on YARtv on youtube they show how the case was faked!
0 likesLol I fuckin loved it
0 likesIf he could sumit up ,hed said...this woman bsing him...
0 likes🤣
1 like🤣🤣🤣 my mans a savage
1 likeLiterally just cracked up when he said that 😂 like damn okay
1 like😂😂😂 log off 🤣
1 likeWow I went on that ride with my dad and brother somewhere back around those years and have a photo of that. Might have been her selling the picture
0 likesNo, he's just clarifying the truth. Some people out here in the world value truth above all else, unfortunately few seem to understand this.
1 like😭😂😂
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1 like@IBALIDERPFACE liar
0 likes😂😂🤭
1 likein your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! never
0 likesshe would be amazing at sales or marketing. perfect real-estate agent
1 likeThe judges are all stupid and I hope they get fired and charged for giving freedom to a psychopath!!!!!
3 likesI want to know why DNA wasn’t done to find her father and rule him out. Clearly he didn’t do it but it’s a piece that I would like to know about the story.
0 likesIt would also remove the dark cloud she put on her fathers name.
This one leaves me rather uncomfortable. I was really hoping she'd end up in prison.
1 likeOMG 21:24 I could never talk to my mom like that. My mom would never allow me to talk to her like that. I'm 27.
1 likeCalled my mom to tell her about this part of the video and she was like yeah I would of came after one of you 😂.
I’d be furious!!!! Her parents were so nice to her, no wonder she was like that
1 likeHer nanny’s name was Zanny?
2 likesIf Caylee was supposedly last seen at the dentist, what would the dentist’s name be? Crentist?
This is so disgusting!! She didn’t deserve to be the mother of that precious baby, a prime example of some people shouldn’t have kids!! She should never be a mother again! Crazy that she’s still free
1 likeShe seems to have a forehead very developed.
1 likeFrontal lobe is the part where inhibition and violence comes from.
Plus psychopathes tend to have their eyes wide opened.
You just have to let them speak to see they don't feel like a normal human beeing. That's how you spot them. Let them talk.
Seems the judges were bribed or else how can someone who has so many proofs against her of killing her daughter was not sentenced.
0 likesthe same system that had someone sit in jail for years over a 'stolen' backpack is the same system that let her walk free...
0 likesI think 29:53 is a pretty damning piece of evidence showing that Casey knew her daughter was dead
0 likes1:05:58 she couldn't help but give a little smirk right at the this time when she realizes she got away with it, again her parents have somehow gotten her out of trouble, to her this is just a slap on the wrist, she'll roll her eyes at the lesson she's supposed to be learning and already thinking where is she going to go out that night to celebrate. Disappointing.
0 likesAnd she’s telling her dad how he was such a great dad and grandpa. If he touched her and molested her, why would she say that?
1 likeI don't know whether I believe Casey was abused as a child. If she was, that's bad, and she deserved some sympathy for that. I say deserved, because she lost all claim to sympathy when she deliberately murdered her daughter. And NO, being abused isn't an excuse for murder. I was abused and know others who were abused far more horrifically than Casey was (if the claim is true), and none of us used that as an excuse for murder. No, it is NOT TRUE that most victims of child abuse turn into child abusers. Most do NOT. People are more likely to become child abusers if they're groomed for that (to be abusers, not to be abused), but people who were abused for the most part would do anything to protect the next generation from what they experienced. In this case, I'm not even convinced the abuse happened, because Casey is a sociopathic pathological liar. So the chances she was lying to her lawyers about the abuse is pretty darn high. But even if it did happen, she should not have been excused for murdering her child. She didn't even regret it. She approved of her own judgment in murdering her child. She's a sociopath, and the jury is culpable for letting her get away with it. I hope she doesn't have any other kids.
1 likeThe nerve and balls of steel of the lawyer defending a criminal and also the absurdity of this case and the law system in general reminds me of Better Call Saul. However, reality is often more disturbing than fiction.
0 likesCasey was acting so understanding and casual with the police because that's the one move she knows, that she practiced to perfection. She was trying to win them over. It has served her well: she is a free woman.
0 likesSomeone will deal out justice for this little girl !
1 likeTo quote Bob Dylan : Makes me feel ashamed to live in a land where justice is a game .
0 likes“Zanny the nanny…” zanny was a name for xanax . Bailey Sarian did a good over view of this case too
1 likeit seems to me her parents taught her how to lie. Why would you lie about your daughter having her degree to others? What do parents teach with that? That lie is a perfect sollution, that you don't have to take responsibility for your actions, beacuse your parents will lie for you, all the bad things. And I bet her degree wasn't the 1st thing they lied about to save her. Why do parents think they help their children if they overprotect them and do not teach them the meaning of consequences of your actions? This is such a sad story on so many levels.
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I don’t think you can get actually get maggots from a pizza 🍕
1 likeThey usually are found in a host they can feed on like a decomposed body
How does a mother go 31 days having her daughter go missing and not call the cops? Anyone else would’ve called in panicking probably within 10min or less of a 3yr old missing and you don’t see her in your own home!
1 likeBro they proved that she lied to police in an interrogation and they just forgot about it like wtf
2 likesFriggin love the typography! Super suttle and effective yet entertaining and moody. excelent.
0 likesHer parents 100% knew she killed her daughter. The way they talk to her just show how they’ve dealt with her lies her entire life. And for gods sake her dad is a former COP.
1 likeHer lies about people have an interesting rhythm. Introduce person as the subject of the lie then talk about any myriad of living conditions, moving, process of moving, subletting. It's kind of brilliant because it conveys some weight to each made up connection and subsequent lie.
0 likesI still can't believe she threw her father (and family) under the bus by claiming child sexual abuse. There is literally no level to which she will not stoop.
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I wonder how big a part that played in her dad's distinct lack of happiness when she was found innocent. He seemed so disappointed at that point
227 likesnot only is it a terrible thing to do, it's not even a good defense!! she's accusing him of that seemingly for some strange revenge for giving police info when trying to find his granddaughter
170 likesHow did he not stand up in the courtroom and be like, “ummmm what the f*ck did you just say?”
180 likes@mike morris exactly!! This was so strange to me that I was in doubt about this being true or just another lie
61 likesFuck, cant stress how crazy all of that is for me
Both parents lied for her, like they enabled her all her life. They KNEW, even the wife smelled it and she was not a cop all her life like the husband! They also went on dr Phil to defend her and "clear the fathers name", afterward. I think it was in concert with ther lawyers, this defence strategy, the father privately agreed to it, I tell you, eventhough he obviously felt like vomiting throughout! They lost a grandaughter, didn/t want to lose another kid, should she get the death penalty. And the cop father felt guilty, but I get the feeling wife pushed him into a corner. I think this is why the jury found her not guilty as well, despite the overwhealming evidence. Death penalty is BAD for justice, makes people do stupid shit!
99 likes@J Gold If it is in fact not true, he would know meaning he knows she might have done something.
1 like@mike morris or be a witness
0 likesYou must be kidding. You would not tell a lie or lies if it would save you from the death penalty? You would actually rather die than lie? How would her parents feel if she was convicted and executed? Better than they do now? I doubt it. She did what she had to in order to survive. Her lawyer was a genious. He helped her walk away without being found guilty of anything at trial. He did his job superbly. You may not like the outcome but if it was you accused of commiting murder, you would want the jury to find you not guilty on All Counts.
17 likesYou would want a great lawyer to help you get that not guilty verdict. Let's not lie about it. I know that not guilty is the right verdict for me if I'm accused.
@Joseph Drach no one's saying that she didn't have reason to do it. I think a lot of the outrage is specifically to do with that she tried to save her own life by accusing her own father of something so horrible. Of course, if it's a choice between saying whatever gets you free or getting locked up you're going to say what you need to say. Doesn't change the fact that it's messed up to accuse your father of r*ping you as a child in order to get away with murdering your own child. And doesn't change that it very well could have ruined her father's life if enough people believed it. It's just an a-hole move, even if it worked.
31 likes@Joseph Drach but why take a monsters side anyway? it just goes to prove that you suppose her horrific actions, which is on all accounts "Disgusting"
8 likesHer FATHER buried that child
0 likes@-W.R" what??
0 likes@Actually Apathy it did seem like she was trying to get back at him for testifying against her but like the officer said he was distraught.
3 likes@Joseph Drach ‘if it was you’ first of all we are not some disgusting cold blooded killers to do such a thing to begin with let alone the need to lie to get out of it. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.
13 likesI can’t believe you think she wouldn’t, after murdering her kid because it was 2 for 1 drinks at club Narcissus.
9 likes@dadada what are you talking about it was the parents asking her where there grand daughter was constantly that got her arrested. They were the ones who jumped to conclusion when they opened the trunk and smelled death. Nobody waited around knowing the grand daughter was dead they didn’t want to believe that they hoped she was fine and would come back in one piece . They contacted her constantly because of the grand daughter because she was a complete f&@& up with her whole life. They called the cops on their own daughter when she avoided giving real answers . I don’t think they helped her at all I just think she was immature highly influenced and gave her daughter to much nite quill who knows it’s not like anyone cared enough to pay attention about a little girl even in their own home . Who parties with a freaking toddler that would turn the party off so quick I don’t know anyone that would be kool With that scenario .
4 likes@mike morris You have never been in a courtroom, have you?
1 likeFULLPROOF SUFFOCATION and the mom did that search, she said on the stand. sure ...
7 likesoh and the worst part about that is that it is probably a big reason why she got off so easy
0 likesI thought so too. After she said on that conversation she had with her parents that she is blessed she still have both her parents and that her daughter is lucky to have them as grandparents contradicts that defense statement already. Maybe becaus the evidence was lacking and nothing directly pointed her to that death got the jury convinced that she didn’t do it. I just hope Caylee, however justice will be served, will get it.
2 likesdid it happen? Did he abuse her?
0 likes@Joseph Drach yea but I wouldn't throw a parent under the bus because I got caught killing my kid
1 like@Myrt do u mean that in a literal sense or metaphorical?
0 likes@Cosmic Billy There there. I never said it would justify the kill. That is your thinking so you can stay in a world that makes sense to you. Sorry but the world isn't like that. Also this is just a youtube comment like yours, and not a trial, so calm down.
1 like@mrjon75 me neither. When his father was accused he just stood till without any expression. What innocent person does that? Peoole don't want to believe she was sexually abused because they need to believe into ultimate bad-ultimate good scenario. In their mind is easier to think everything she is telling is a lie.
3 likes@P A person who does not want his daughter to get the death penalty after loosing a grandaughter already. ;)
0 likes@dadada and after tell the press she is a monster and they are sure she killed her? Why would he do that?To protect his daughter also?
0 likes@P Press is not the court, the jury is isolated from it. The sole purpose of this sharade was to explain to the jury why she lied so much to everybody who tried to find the little girl and play on their emotions, like any good lawyer would. The parents agreed to this strategy, I am 100% sure, because her LIFE was on the line. But otherwise BS and I say that as a true victim of this kind of abuse.
1 like@dadada I know, but it sounds illogical to agree with being an incest dad so she doesn't get death penalty and on the other hand tell everybody in the press she did it and she is a liar. It just doesn't make sense. I'm sorry about what happened to you, but this is still what I feel like. I believe her lying was a product of the abuse. Her lies are compatible with a child telling lies. It's not a mastermind getting away with a crime but rather an ill person trying to live in a fantasy to protect herself from the real world. Something deeply traumatised people tend to do because it's the way they cope. On the other hand even if she was abused I still don't see that as a excuse that she murdered her child of course not. But she clearly isn't connected to any emotions regarding her own child and that tells a lot as well.
1 like@dadada Yes I think clearly stated she was disturbed so it would make sense her leaving the child with the abuser🙄 You can have your opinion and I will have mine, but I think it's better to end this conversation since might be triggering and waste of time since the only one that knows the truth are him and her.
0 likesnot long into the documentary i wondered: "what horrors turned this young woman into a psychopath?" And I immediately thought about ll the documentaries about serial killers a have seen in the past, who also lack any empathy, just like this woman. And they all have 1 thing in common, without fail: childhood abuse!
3 likesI don't care if she is guilty and if she has been lying her whole life. I just know that the abuse is true. So fucking sad.
So indirectly, that grandfather is responsible for his own granddaughter's death. I hope it hurts like hell, mother&%#$@^*
@azz blaster yes!I think there are two kinds of people here:people who don't have the slightest clue what bad childhood can do and people who had similar experience but refuse to think they could have ended up like her. It's easier to just think she is a sosiopath because she just happens to be one. In my mind it doesn't make sense but to many it seems to be doing just that. It's easier to think they aren't even human cause if they were they would have something incommon with the commenters here. And that's too scary to face.
2 likes@P very well said.
1 likeThat doesn't excuse her for murdering a child or any shitty thing as an adult .
0 likes@GUITAR STYLINGS SAMUEL LETIZIA
1 likeNo. It's no excuse. And it's horrible. But she is simply unable to feel remorse. But i feel as sorry for her as i do for that little girl.
@GUITAR STYLINGS SAMUEL LETIZIA nobody said that. Understanding certain facts and accepting her actions are two completely different things.
0 likes@Spacemonkeymojo he didn't try hard enough
0 likes@Spacemonkeymojo I don't see somebody commiting suicide because their children are fucked up, however see I people committing suicide because guilt of their own actions. If anything this would furthermore make me suspicious about his dad's part on the whole thing.
0 likes@P Yes I would like to know what the truth is too. The whole thing is a mess.
0 likes@Spacemonkeymojo it really is. Pains me very much that this is a murder or a small child and still after all this time there is no justice for her.
1 like@dadada agree with you. And, as a victim of this kind of abuse myself, I don't see any suffering sign in her, neighter phd found sign on her.
2 likesIf you experienced that you will suffer from c-ptsd and panic anxiety disorder at least, even borderline personality dirsorder in worst cases.
But she's not, she's the classical sociopath with no feelings made by parents worshiping her all her life, parents stooged by her trying always to accomplish and spoil her.
I know a person like this.
Criminals who have a past of abuse are totally different, are lunatic, overreacting, impulsive and not able to manage emotions.
Instead she's totally empty, no emotions, calculating and manipulative
@Michelle Magma Take care! ❤️
0 likes@P casey, is that you?
0 likes@dadada exactly,it's casey @P is casey and i'm scared.
0 likesI think she should be in jail, but honestly it's all fair game when your life is on the line.
0 likesA father would want to be accused if it means freedom.
Your reputation for your daughter's life? I'd take it.
The fact that he was mad about being accused, instead of grateful that his daughter found a way out, just proves what kind of family they are: selfish. All of them.
0 likes@Max Pulido my dude what...i mean i respect everyone's opinion,you have the right to feel this way but he wasn't happy bcuz they were on the state's side in this case both of her parents were against her in the court,she took their granddaughter's life and honestly i think if not death penalty a life sentence is what they had in mind not complete freedom and the "not guilty"
0 likes@Vikas Shetty Wow, to not only be unhappy at your daughter's freedom, but to actively work against it? Despicable.
0 likesI can really see where she gets her selfish ways from. Yeah, her father betrayed that bond then, not the other way around.
@Max Pulido we dk if it's the truth. basing this on this liar's words is not very wise and i dont' wanna be a part of that so good for you i guess. i mean i hope it's not true,but if it is,then there's still no reason why he should not want justice for his granddaughter's death
0 likes@Vikas Shetty There's also the likelihood he's mad he won't have another little girl to "care for."
0 likesBottom line, though, selfish people in that family. All the way back.
Say what you want about Casey’s lawyer but he was right. I’ve said from seeing the prosecution and everything they’ve said, that they took the wrong approach. They did try to play off on emotions, about a little girl who was murdered. “Zanny the nanny” was drugs to put her daughter to sleep, and she didn’t mean to actually kill her. IMO, that is. Had the prosecution shown that she died and even if it was accidental, why would she hide it!? She would’ve been found guilty
0 likesOh my god, Caylee was older than me by a month. This breaks my heart even more
0 likesI think she was misjudged, I have no emotion and no response to anything people say or do to me. It wouldn't be fair to throw me in jail for being "soulless"
0 likesIf this case wasn't in a southern state I'm sure the jury would have been smart enough to say she was guilty because what doubt is there... i mean honestly
0 likesThat fact when she said she is happy in her journal saids alot! She killed her baby and wanted to live her beautiful life. Sick
0 likesI hope every day that the wrong person meets Casey someday and isn’t as “forgiving” as the jury
0 likesJust goes to prove how juries can be manipulated into reaching the wrong verdict. It is a system where the guilty are set free and the innocent rot in a jail cell. Surely there has to be a better way.
0 likesTurns my stomach knowing she got away with this and actually ended up better off having killed her own child , disgusting
0 likesThe fact that she lied to the investigators, searched up suffocation, and had a signs of a decomposing body in the trunk of her car are not enough!!??? Like wow this lady should be behind bars for the rest of her life. I would he absolutely ashamed to be her lawyer/ attorney or whatever.
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i mean homeboy was hired to defend her so what he must do is defend her
96 likes@maria Vazquez did an amazing fucking job too
108 likesDidn’t she also search chloroform? She got off here but she will stand before God one day
37 likes@Tate Baker yea exactly. I know he knows she guilty and it was his job to defend her. So I don’t know why people hate her lawyer.
24 likes@maria Vazquez homeboy was getting it from her so he didn't care either way.
8 likesWhy hate the lawyer, hate the jury
27 likes@maria Vazquez That's a very American way of seeing the job of a lawyer. Defending someone doesn't mean lying and being dishonest. If you have a friend that is guilty of whatever, and you feel that you have to defend them doesn't mean you are going to lie and cover up what they did. It means that you will make sure they aren't going to get an undeserved treatment. In the same way, the job of a lawyer should be to defend people against legal abuse, not to lie at any price to hide the truth and make crinimals get away from what they did.
50 likes1. People lie. To investigators too. For different reasons. For example, to save face. 3. It wasn't signs of decomposing body but a smell that seems similar to.
4 likesHard to say anything about #2 - searching for suffocation.
The strongest argument is that she didn't report her child missing for a month. The only possible scenarios I would think of people on drugs and insane.
@Joni Therrien Unfortunately "God" doesn't exist, so it sucks either way.
19 likesShe even lied about the nanny.
3 likesPretty sure the law is that you have to believe your client is innocent or otherwise recuse yourself so you don't get lawyers fudging up on purpose to sabotage their cases, so everyone gets a fair trial, otherwise you're leaving the door open for a mistrial. Dude had to believe she was innocent. And technically he only has to prove reasonable doubt and sadly he managed to since the evidence tying her to the murder were pretty circumstancial for the most part. We may think she did it, and it may seem obvious, but the burden of proof lies with prosecution. It's their fault she's walking free.
2 likes@Jonas Daverio Yeah bro. Corporate America is all business. No time to stop and think about being ethical.
3 likes@maria Vazquez Would you take money to defend someone you were convinced murdered a 3 year old? And would you tell your conscience: 'I'm just doing what I was hired for.'
4 likesYikes, it's a wonder our society hasn't fallen further thus far. Five likes just in this thread(MC Oliver's comment). Looks like we're rapidly moving away from God and decency 😬
1 likeIf we "exist", God exists, as it is the collective and most logical conclusion. There is clearly a law of duality here. Even the laws of physics point to the existence of a collective entity. I digress...
Yeah, she will absolutely answer for what she did. We all will answer for our transgressions. It is an unavoidable outcome.
@Irie Rogue the mere existence of people doubting your god should suggest to you it's not as much of a "logical" conclusion as you think...
3 likesShe got away nearly scot free, her public image tarnished for a few years, but will be forgotten in time
Plus surely if you believe in any sort of karmic justice you must think any judiciary system is wholly unneeded...
Who are you to play the role of god in judging sinners?
@Riccardo I believe in God, but don't assume that I presume that It has any control or bearing on this realm. I don't think God made this place. Not directly, anyway. I think It made the thing that did make this place, so indirectly. The dimiurge created this cesspool, which is precisely why it so very well mirrors It's ugliness, as do we.
1 like@Riccardo the universe is logical. Humans (as well as their creator) are not.
1 like@Irie Rogue you sound pretty convinced, but the way you talk about it seems to me god wouldn't be all too interested in judging his "cesspool" as you called
1 likeIs this "demiurge" some sort of pascalian divinity?
Or a Greek style unthinking prime mover?
You sound pretty certain, so I'm curious
@Riccardo it's a gnostic term. Gnostic is simply put "truth seeking"
0 likesGod won't necessarily be judging, but the rather the self, higher self, or the collective. I'm not sure if God is even conscious of us, we're like his skin cells or something. Instead of this sh×t being so taboo, we should all discuss it more. Then maybe we'd be more aware.
@Irie Rogue i dunno man, can't say I'm convinced
1 like@Riccardo not here to convince you, that would be nearly impossible. Universal truth is earned. It has taken decades to draw these conclusions.
0 likes@Irie Rogue would you be willing to give some pointers?
0 likesI can't honestly say I'm searching, but I'm curious to know what's behind your confidence
@Riccardo I won't go through the usual tropes, but I will suggest some fellow Gnostics and/or their material:
0 likes*Carl Jung (any literature, really, but the Red Book is particularly riveting and introspective)
*How to Grow a Lotus Blossom/How a Zen Buddhist Prepares for Death
*the Nag Hammadi (oldest version of the Bible of which we are aware, and vastly different from Christianity; it is gnostic literature)
@Riccardo I've also had some undeniable metaphysical and spiritual experiences that further confirmed my theories.
0 likes@Tate Baker Casey was giving him the 😺 too as form of payment so he spent alot of long hours spending time with Casey....
0 likesYep! That attorney def did a number on the jurors to make them say not guilty of all the charges! I mean how is losing your kid and not reporting it child abuse at the very least!
0 likesThis attorney then defended the man who shot Trey VonMartin and he got away with murder as well
It’s shameful
@Riccardo if you would like to form your own logical conclusion based solely in science and reason, I highly recommend this book. It allowed me to articulate the truth I felt: God Matters: Readings in the Philosophy of Religion (by Raymond Martin) it makes it very difficult to deny the existence of a higher entity. Also, if I honestly believed that humans were the apex of existence, I'd have quit the game a long time ago.
0 likes@Jonas Daverio “aMeRiCa BaD”.
0 likes@AndrewLvov No, there’s another scenario. She could’ve said that her boyfriend, or really even anyone for that matter, had kidnapped her daughter and told her that they would kill her or her daughter if she ever spoke out about it. This would’ve been her best out actually, it would somewhat explain why she didn’t call for help and why she kept lying.
0 likesBaez is only concerned for his media exposure not the truth, he did another video after defending a football player who did a drive by- that player killed himself afterwards. Maybe because the lawyer got him off and he wouldnt be held responsible.
0 likes@Joni Therrien only in your dreams.
0 likesThe jury were to blame on this one. Those jurors will have to stand before God as well as Casey one day and explain why they let a child killer do free. Those jurors disgust me.
0 likes@maria Vazquez I think attorneys and or lawyers have the right to refuse representation of a client. If they dont want to represent them in court, they dont have to take the case. Im not sure tho. Fact check me. However, if that is the case, that makes her acquittal even scarier.
0 likesPerfect example of the devils advocate at its best ..
0 likesThis case made him famous and rich
0 likesLawyer gotta eat and feed his fam lol they don’t give a fuuuuuuuuck and I don’t blame them. As bad as that sounds it’s how our system works for better or worse
1 likeIt's not enough. Nothing links her to the murder. Her being suspicious and her abnormal behavior mean nothing.
0 likes@Abdur Rahmaan lmao are you living in disney world? Lawyers threw their ethic out the window the second they decided to study law. They are in the field for the money for politic, not to serve justice. Who the hell would hire him as a lawyer if he isn't willing to do whatever it takes to make sure his defendant doesnt end up in jail. I am sure this lawyer celebrated and slept pretty well that same night knowing that this case has made him famous and will look good on his resume.
0 likes@Joni Therrien no she wont
0 likes@Okay M8 Do you have proof that Zeus doesn't exist?
0 likesI wonder how well that lawyer is doing today
0 likesAgree with everything except the lawyer part, they're there to do a job, everyone deserves a fair trial.
0 likesI can't imagine what the Dad was thinking though, he knows the smell, he knew what it meant and how she was behaving. I'm not blaming him for anything but it must have messed with his head.
@Jonas Daverio eh some lawyers do that
0 likeswe found the Tiktoker/Karen
0 likes@Ricicici 33 yeah you
0 likesAs someone whose interested in being a lawyer, I agree her lawyer did a terrible job morally and probably even legally if he lied under oath and should have to go to council for review, but we can't prove that he knowingly lied. The best thing the lawyer should've done is simply suggest taking a plea deal, but that's in hindsight.
0 likesLawyers sadly have to do what's best for their clients, and in this case it was to take Casey at her word and construct a defense around it. Not his job to prove if she's innocent or guilty, his job is to debate her innocence in front of a jury. Morally he did something very wrong, but lawyers have to play devil's advocate at times to make a case for a criminal.
It's better than burdening a public defender with her case, they're already overworked as it is, and she had a right to an attorney/lawyer so it was either lawyer who agrees to take her case or public defender who's already worked to the bone.
@maria Vazquez aaa!aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
0 likesEver met a lawyer? They don't have shame.
0 likes@mooglemania False. All you have to do is represent them in court, projecting their claims is a minimum. How could you ever prove that you believe your client? Belief can't be proven. Good lawyers often represent those that they despise, but representation is what keeps the salem witches alive. What is bad lawyer work is attempting to manipulate and confuse the jury to secure a win.
0 likes@Jonas Daverio umm.. The goal of a lawyer is to prove his customer is innocent. If you provide evidence against your client, then you're a shit lawyer and you would get no jobs. (If you cant defend your client after knowing he/she is guilty you can drop the case)
0 likesShe gets annoyed anytime her daughter Caylee is brought up or given concern for her well being. Sighs of annoyance and the real her comes out attacking someone. This monster never even implies she’s concerned about her daughter in fact she constantly cuts any dialogue down right away and irrelevant concerns are prioritized above her daughter
0 likesSeeking no truth.
0 likesWinning is all.
Find it so grim, so true, so real.
The commentator in the beginning states that Casey Anthony thought she could lie to the state the way she did to her parents and just get away with it. But it did work, she in the end got away with it...
0 likesI think Jodi Arias Saw this case and thought 💭 hmm maybe I can get an acquittal as well. But there was way to much convincing and overwhelming evidence that said otherwise
0 likesNo punsihment is hard enough for such crime...
3 likesHer case (win / bailed) encourages others to “copy-paste.” It means “u can do…be devilish CLEVER.”
0 likesShe’s guilty! Running free. She had a good lawyer.
1 likeSo let me get this straight. Casey pretty much done bad things and her parents did not give her the correct consequences - right? So she became a pathological liar because of lack of consequences?
0 likesThis year in Greece a mother killed her child with poison while the child was in hospital. Her 2 other children had died the previous years for unknown reasons. An investigation started for the cause of death for the 3rd child and they concluded that the mother killed all 3 children with very low dosage of poison given to them systematicaly. All these years that her children were dying one by one she kept having a totally normal life having fun on vacation and showed no signs of grief.
0 likesThe number of people that didn’t exist in her immediate storyline was absolutely insane
0 likesThese investigators were so out of their league with her. They weren’t experience enough to handle someone like her. It’s obvious when watching this interview
0 likesthe fact of how calm her voice is ................if that was my child i would be more than beside myself....10000% a sociopath gotta be. either way very manipulative
0 likesShe lied to the police time after time and intentionally misled them in the search for her missing baby daughter. Then made up another fairytale about Caylee drowning in a swimming pool accident. May God forgive her , I cannot.
0 likesWait i need help understanding something here..
1 likeSo in her defense she said that her father helped her bury the daughter?
Ummm did he confirm this or what or did i get something wrong here?
How in gods name ....?!
0 likesThat this person got off the charges
Is just frighteningly surreal
She googled “foolproof suffocation” the prosecution rests
3 likesit’s funny they claim she drowned in the pool but why in the hell did she then put duct tape on her mouth if she was already dead? terrible liars. all of them. May God rest that baby’s soul
2 likesI'm still absolutely baffled that she killed her child with painful obvious evidence and still runs free. This is so fucked up. I don't get how anyone could even loom at her without spitting.
0 likesWow this is hard to believe...the poor grand parents....either way the family have lost.
1 likeAnd yet Casey Anthony got away with murder.
3 likesWhen Christina said "If anything happens to that baby, I'll die." My eyes started watering. She loved her best friend's daughter more than her own mother did. 23:37
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literally same
27 likesAs a brother to a sister. We lie to eachother. I relate to when her brother said "you're....making it really hard to want....to. I'm not going to go round for round with you I'll give you xtina so you can tell her"
63 likesYou can't see Christina's face but for me at least you can hear how she's aghast and about to cry. It's really ripping to hear everyone's emotion and this mother has seemingly none.
59 likesand the tone casey used to tell her calling them was a mistake ,, the contrast was so bold
64 likesHoneslty and her responses was so disgusting to me
44 likesSame here 😭
6 likesIt reminded me of my own friends and how much they love my daughter. I got a little lump in my throat.
15 likesI was about to comment something very similar, very heart wrenching and crazy to even conceptualise.
4 likesAnd the mother answer to that statement: “wow. Calling you was a huge waste”
21 likesYep, that was heartbreaking.
1 likeThat struck me too!
1 likeMe too. God I feel awful for her.
1 likeMine too. That moment was so impactful.
1 likethey knew too. not knew knew but her best friend even implied it
1 likeDamn.. tht brought some tears
1 like@regularspecial1 yeah I think the brother Lee and the best friend were really trying to say it without completely saying it, because they know how Casey Anthony is. She will just completely shut down and not say anything.
0 likesI’d love to see the prosecution from the Jodi Arias trial talk to Casey Anthony 😂
0 likesI feel really bad for Caylee . She deserves better God bless her ! Jeez 😣 🥺🥺 This's the saddest thing I every heard in my life. There is no sad thing more than losing a child but she does feel nothing literally Nothing ! Am really confused !
0 likes57:58 holy shit why didn’t the judge excuse and cite contempt? That’s downright dirty and beyond manipulative.
1 likeThe problem is the system which calls for jurys. Too much put on a group of nobodies to figure out the law, proof, circumstances. Not a good system
1 likeThe craziest thing is the fact that she herself NEVER asks about her daughter through it all.. .. never asks how things are regarding finding her.... she is obsessed with herself only...
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@Lucas Villanueva Ironic how she talks about Casey talking about herself and you comment making it about yourself...
15 likesTrue.....sociopathic tendency 101
2 likesbecause she know caley was dead
6 likesThe jury were told that Zenida didn't exist, that the situation with Jeffery was made up, that Casey had lied to the police, that she exhibited no signs of distress throughout the whole process, lied to the police on numerous occasions, went partying while her child was missing, didn't even bother contacting the police until she was practically forced to by her mother, Googled suffocation, claimed she was the happiest she had been in ages while her child was missing, and that the trunk of her car smelled like a decomposing body and still found her not guilty.
24 likesIm sorry, but no way in hell are 12 people collectively that stupid, and no slick lawyer could manage to convince that many people of innocence. Something about this whole case is seriously messed up and something seems really off about the whole thing.
@Tev J totally agree. There was some foul play somewhere, somehow. None of this makes any sense....
2 likesIt's not crazy at all she killed her why would she ask and she's too much of a sociopath to pretend and act like she cared even if it meant being proved innocent. But somehow she got off. Don't get it
0 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks not true. jesus did selfless act when he died.for you
1 likeI've done selfish acts through his spirit who lives through me
Only.by being born again can you change and learn to be selfless through the holy spirit.
#Justice4Caylee
0 likesYou do know that the whole concept of trial by jury by your peers is inherently flawed because juries are made up of 12 people too thick to get out of jury service. How scary is that?
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1 likeThis case made OJ look like whatevs.
0 likesThe jury said they were unable to prove her guilty, not "any person on the planet believes she didn't do it".
0 likesTo me casey and her lawyer winning this case had nothing to do with their defence. I think the jury didn't buy that, i believe the problem was that this was a death penalty case and that the evidence for premeditated murder was strong but not smoking gun strong. the jury probably got more hesitend to convict her of murder because you don't wanna hand out the death penalty unless you can be 100% certain that the defendant deserves that.
0 likesThat "Yeah! Mm-hmm! Mm-hmm! Yeah! Mm-hmm! Yeah! Yeah!" garbage was infuriating. She sounded like she was trying to speedrun that interrogation.
2 likesYou just have to look them in the eye, that's where evil lies, it's the only thing they can't control.
0 likesThis is insanity. Everything about this is just unbelievable.
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The lawyer that got her free is one hell of a guy, but she shouldn’t have ever gotten not guilty verdict.
99 likes@StormOscar if i was that lawyer id be like "i know im supposed to represent my client, but wtf is wrong with me"
86 likes@JustFrankJustDank I'd quit my job
20 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw cringe
89 likes@Dio Brando What is so cringe about the Gospel of Truth? May I ask you if you consider yourself a morally good person?
5 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw dont bash ur beliefs on others anyone can believe what they want also we can still be Good people without religion
53 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw i saw ur comment on another section so pls stop this is irrelevant to the topic like its okay to have beliefs but to randomly comment them is just inconvenient for many
40 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw yeah im def goin to h*ck sorry bro
8 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw What the fuck is "morally good person" that's some shit that humans made up. Does Lion feels "Morally good" when he kills a antilope?
5 likes@Triangular As a Muslim you must believe in Jesus as one of the prophets.
7 likes@notpmeg_ How sure are you about that claim? "we can still be good people"? May I test that claim with a question to show you why that can't be the case?
0 likesDo you consider yourself a morally good person?
@minikui kowai desu I want to reach as many people with the Gospel. I have had many good opening hooks with this message to flesh open people's insular views about reality, death, morality, etc, and the disease of sin that is begotten of people's immoral actions resulting in catastrophic consequences.
0 likes@JustFrankJustDank Why do you say that? May I ask you if you consider yourself a morally good person?
0 likes@Triangular Many people like to bring up that objection that Jesus Christ isn't the Son of God.
1 likeI have been asked this in the very same formulation many times before. I hope this response brings out some of the issues I think are important in this regard.
N O W H E R E does Jesus say "I am God, worship me."
Suppose a man does indeed come up to you and does says,
"I am God, worship me."
Would you believe him?
Would you worship him?
The immediate reaction of any decent monotheistic believer
would be to call the person making such a claim an impostor
and a blasphemer. If that is your reaction too, then why
would you demand something from Jesus which you aren't going to
accept anyway? Most would declare insane anybody who would make
such a statement. Jesus knows about this natural reaction as
well as anybody else and saw no reason to make his claims in
such a foolish way. But he did make the claim in indirect ways
and those are just as clear.
Maybe you are cautious and open and don't want to completely
dismiss such a claim ... after all, saying that God is not
able to come and appear in the form of a man does restrict his
power, and you believe in an all powerful God, ... but you would
at least demand conclusive proof for such a claim, wouldn't you?
After all, if you do worship somebody who is not God you are
guilty of idolatory. But refusing to worship God when he demands
so is just as great a sin.
What matters in the end is not the existence of this literal
statement, but whether there is clear evidence that he is indeed
God, no matter in which form he issued the claim. If there is
clear proof for his divine identity, then you have to worship Him
even if the wording of his commands is not precisely the way you
may think they should be. We cannot prescribe for God how
he has to reveal himself before we accept it.
For example, in the Gospel according to John, (speaking of
eternal life) Jesus says, "I am the resurrection and the life.
He who believes in me will live, even though he dies."
(John 11:25). He makes the offer of eternal life conditional on
faith in his own person. This would be blasphemous for anybody
other than God. This is an incredible claim. Does he give any
evidence for his authority to make such claims? The record
gives many details of what happened at this particular day, but
at the end we read, "When he had said this, Jesus called in a
loud voice, `Lazarus, come out!' The dead mean came out, his
hands and feet wrapped with strips of linen, and a cloth around
his face. Jesus said to them, `Take off the grave clothes and
let him go.'" (John 11:43-44).
When you read the Gospels carefully you will find that
consistently
* Jesus talks like he is God,
* Jesus acts like he is God,
* Jesus gives evidence for claiming this authority rightfully
by performing miraculous signs.
After 3 years with his disciples we read how one of them
asks Jesus and wants to be "shown the Father (God)".
Jesus answered, "Don't you know me, Philip, even after
I have been among you such a long time?
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. ...
Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the
Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the
miracles themselves." (John 14:10-11).
Jesus expected the disciples and the people around him to
recognise his true nature and identity from his words which
are only appropriate for God to speak and from his deeds.
Jesus does give enough proof and then lets you draw your own
conclusions. Everybody could make the claim to be God. And
many have made claims to be (a) god throughout history. Only
the true God can give true evidence for it and if you have
the evidence there is no need for the explicit command to
worship anymore. The statement "I am God" adds nothing of
substance to the question regarding his identity. His real
identity is established by the proof he gives, not by claims
each and everybody can make. After he has given the evidence,
there is no more need for the statement. Those who are open
for the truth will recognise the evidence, those who ignore
the evidence won't be convinced either if he adds this
specific statement you seem to demand from him. And if you
have recognized his true identity, worshiping him is only
proper and will nearly be an "automatic" response.
I know this is an incredible thought, it is unbelievable.
That is why it took even the disciples themselves such a
long time to really understand it. They have really only
started to comprehended the meaning of it all after Jesus'
own death and resurrection, after they meet the risen Lord.
In the Gospel according to John, end of chapter 20, and
the Gospel according to Matthew, end of chapter 28, we read
how Jesus receives worship and affims this. Even though he
never demands the worship, he accepts it and confirms it as
proper.
@Fa Raz Do you believe Jesus Christ as the Son of God?
0 likes@Vin Why should I? THat doesn't sound very loving....
0 likesWhat beliefs or spiritual views do you hold to?
@Aleksandar Mijatovic Equivocation fallacy. You are comparing apples and oranges here in an attempt to almost straw-man me. What defines morality actually?
0 likesYou bring up a good point as what you just posted will result in a self-defeating statement for your Atheistic paradigmatic framework in regards to tenable ethics. You brought the question up, so let us see if you can espouse it.
How do you draw a formal distinction between the moral values of a person versus a Lion? How do you know that murder is wrong, and why we ought to care for others if in an Evolutionist's primordial mindset the survival of the fittest applies to both the natural processions and properties of animals? Shouldn't this be applied to human behavior, morals, and axiological commitments?
It's Florida, you can believe anything that happens there..
3 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw excuse me, many of us are not christians. idk what rock you live under, but there are multiple religions and beliefs so please, no one cares about whatever you said. this video isn't even related to religion my guy
10 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw a child got murdered my question to u is where is god to help save innocent people why do people need to die to go to heaven and hell why not help instead of let people get killed
7 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw wrong place to bring up religion idc if they're going to hell they need to have justice in this lifetime god only thought of life after death didn't think of life he created us and we have to suffer until death there's no beauty in Life it pisses me off
5 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw And you're again bringing morals all the time while being fully aware that you're replying to a person that does not believe in such thing.
4 likesI do not draw a formal distinction between things I do not believe in. Morals are product of a human imagination to make them feel good/bad about something,nothing more-nothing less.
Why do we care (or in many cases do not care) for others is mater of how we grew up,and what we were taught,howt some things are "good" and some things are "bad" in reality it's only the law that stops this world from going total berserk into chaos,if there was no laws (and I mean at all),many would show their true colors,it's not our "morals" that stop this world going to shit,it's the law.
Survival of the fittest still applies to humans as well,just in modern society it took some other form shaped by capitalism and greed.
No
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw bro he ain't real, you wastin ya time
2 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw yes but im going to hell and im ok with it
2 likes@Triangular muslims believe in jesus :l
2 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw “What is so cringe about the gospel of truth?” Might be the funniest sentence ever created
6 likesI have romantic feelings for her
1 like@Westerling :l
2 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw like any troll, I'm sure you're just happy to get responses whether they're positive or negative. Any acknowledgement of your nonsense will be a win for you, you sure do seem to be thriving on the attention.
3 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw if your God’s a righteous one, he’ll recognize the morality of my life and reward me as such even if I didn’t prostrate myself before him. If he’s so petty, narcissistic, and capricious as to condemn me to an eternity of suffering simply for not worshiping him, then he’s not worth worshipping in the first place. If he isn’t real, then I’ll be fine either way.
4 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw I’m morally good in that I bring as much happiness into the world as I reasonably can. the difference between the two of us is that I do it in an altruistic fashion, and you do it for yourself, with a promise of eternal reward, or threat of eternal punishment hanging over your head. If you think that human beings can’t be moral without coercion then maybe you’re just a bad person deep down.
2 likes@Dalton Garrett ok fr tho, im an atheist and i cringe so hard when people say "your god", idk entirely why but i think its cause it wond do you much favor to convince a religious person to take your side
0 likes@JustFrankJustDank well in the first place there isn’t much you can do to reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. Nothing is going to convince someone who’s arguing from faith, they’re conditioned to be unreceptive to reality.
1 likeI agree but also, jds made this video with that bias and showed you specific clips for specific reason.
1 like@Dalton Garrett i agree, people only change their opinions when they themselves want to, not when people change it for them, but there are going to be either neutral or not 100% sure parties observing these discussions and when they see people arguing against the idea of a far off, yet for some reason occasionally human meddling being existing, theyre going to hear "oh, they both agree on the fact that from the religious persons perspective he sees god and the non believer simply doesnt" rather than the actual reason why theyres a disagreement , which is the non believer doesnt see a god and the believer believes, not sees, but believes in a god, and there is an extremely important difference between these two world perspectives, in one, god appears to some and not to others, in the other, the one you and i both agree on, gods arent real and some people believe in them. we need to show the reason some believe in something and others dont isnt because one is blind, we need to show that they disagree because one is weong
1 like@Ian Lincoln tell me the casey anthony story as you see it, not as jcs does, i sincerely wanna hear what your criticism is
2 likesok can i just acknowledge the fact that this comment section started off so innocently and partially due to me, became a complete 180 to what it was about, anyone reading this wanting to go into the comment section and not expecting this i apologize lol
3 likes@JustFrankJustDank oh no, I’m not even arguing over something as unfalsifiable as the existence of a god. Frankly it doesn’t matter to me either way, and my comment explained why. I think that the most important thing to realize is that if Yahweh existed and everything the Torah/Bible/Quran said about him was true, he’d be an absolute monster. Just be as good of a person as you can be. If no god exists then at least you bettered the world. If a god does exist and they’re righteous they’ll reward you, if they take issue with you not worshipping them then they’re a bastard and not worthy of worship. You shouldn’t allow yourself to be coerced into immorality.
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw Jesus Christ, according to my Islamic belief, is not the Son of God. He is a messenger who was sent by God and was later ascended back to God.
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw don’t worry about those who have hardened hearts. You did what you could with the resources you have. God bless you! Shake the dust off your feet and move on ❤️. Of course don't give up, but don't burn yourself out!
0 likesFacts m
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw Praised be Jeebus!
0 likesI totally agree. Jose bayez is a crazy good lawyer.
0 likesWow I never knew about this and was expecting a payoff but damn I’m lost for words justice was not served
0 likesThis is nothing being everything. You only seem to be alive by separating yourself from God. Duality/experience. It can collapse at any moment and Heaven is revealed to be everything happening...for NO reason — utter infinite freedom. Unconditional love. It’s unbelievable until it’s undeniable.
0 likesI am so disappointed she was found not guilty. She is clearly a sociopath
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw stop imposing your beliefs on others it can be quite annoying
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw What if I’m gay?
0 likesAfter seeing what had happened to Casey with evidences, my heart pained. The only thing I wanna add is that Justices is a lie & the so called Justices System is a big joke. Anyone with cash and good contacts can get away.
0 likes@hi Why would I preach a message to those who already have full knowledge of the truth? That would be unnecessary, right? Unless they are in a state of unrepentance and are reprobate and rebellious towards God,, then they need to return to the basics of the message. I am hoping to reach those who are sick and are in need of the cure which only through Christ Jesus can they find the solution to sin that so easily gratifies our fleshly desires and brings us into a rebellious state of mind against God.
0 likes@minikui kowai desu The logical problem of evil isn’t a probability argument, but rather it is a logical argument, namely it does not say “God probability does not exist”, but rather “God cannot exist even in principle once you’ve understood the propositions in question”, akin to a square circle. A literal logical contradiction that cannot exist even in principle.
0 likesThis, as even atheist philosophers recognise, is a very strong and extravagant claim. They’re saying P and Q are contradictory attributes possessed by G therefore it cannot exist.
However, one simply has to note that P and Q cannot be said to be logically contradictory, if Z is even a logical possibility. For example, if you were told in a dinner table that your friend Paul’s car is being fixed because it’s broken, but then minutes later you hear him speaking privately in a corner to someone about him driving to the diner, it would seem to be a logical contradiction Prima facie. However if it is even logically possibly for Z to be true, namely he drove someone else’s car, he had a second car or multiple cars, etc, then P and Q namely, his car being fixed and him driving to the diner cannot be said to be logically contradictory.
Note it is a logical argument against God’s existence, and thus regardless of what you epistemically think of free will or divine knowledge, or whatever it doesn’t matter, since even a bare possibility would show that P and Q cannot be said to be logically contradictory. This is why even naturalists like JL mackie who have no affinity towards subjects like free will, divine knowledge and so on, found this rebuttal to be a utterly devastating decisive knockdown argument. Because to maintain that P and Q are contradictory, he has to show that Z is also logically impossible, not merely epistemically implausible. Which is downright absurd to even attempt.
NOTE: Virtually every philosopher of religion has universally rejected the logical PoE.
This video will hopefully elucidate what I said better.
https://youtu.be/k64YJYBUFLM
@Aleksandar Mijatovic YOu believe morals are a product of the human imagination? How do you epistemically know that? Also, isn't that strange to have feelings and emotions towards subjects and decisions people make if all moral systems exist only in the mind by which we can't appeal to something extrinsic and relational to consider ethical propositions lawful? How would you solve this dilemma and reconcile the idea if all conception or reality by conceivable possibilities are unanimously congenital, then how come it can't be tenably back-propagated towards its first initial principles that have to be followed?
0 likes@JustFrankJustDank Why do you say that? Hell isn't something that the human mental contents of thought haven't even imagined as a counterfactual state unless by general relative experience by something that is expressed by external semantics that is consistent with any other subjective independent experience of others people. Think of this. Imagine putting your hand on the stove turned up at 400 degrees F that has been going on for hours. Why won't you put your hand there if you have a Cambridge property to conceive of the existence of the experience? You don't want to burn yourself right? How can you know the pain of burning yourself if you hadn't experienced it with that particular object that has the potency to give off a burn? The same scenario applies to hell. How can you say that you are okay with going to hell but not try placing your hand to give off a relative similar experience where you can find hedonistic pleasure if you are okay with it?
0 likesAlso, I updated the message to go into a bit more into the nuances of the Gospel to better illustrate it:
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
How many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@Milktaeii I still don't see how that is funny.
0 likes@Slowhand Why do you say it is brainless if you would have needed some form of intelligibility to necessary reason to form a Coherent religion such as Christianity which is reasonably logical by revelation epistemology from God about reality? By what basis do you ground that claim? Also, your reasoning is cringe for asserting the Christian faith is cringe.
0 likes@Mr. Libertad By what basis do you make that claim that Christianity is man-made? You can't make an epistemic claim with no substance such as predicting inferential evidence that is consistent with metaphysical implications, epistemic modality, and ethical propositions.
0 likes@echo head That is presumptious. Why do you think the message of the Gospel which is the answer to the existential perpetual questions of death, teleological implications, iniquity, etc, are prevalent in this world is a trolly message?
0 likes@Dalton Garrett " if your God’s a righteous one, he’ll recognize the morality of my life and reward me as such even if I didn’t prostrate myself before him."
0 likesHow can God recognize something that is not righteous and reward you for it? God doesn't reward sinners eternal life in heaven just as much as the Law doesn't allow rapists to not undergo some form of punishment.
"If he’s so petty, narcissistic, and capricious as to condemn me to an eternity of suffering simply for not worshiping him, then he’s not worth worshipping in the first place. If he isn’t real, then I’ll be fine either way."
'For not worshipping Him'. No, God doesn't sentence someone to hell for not falling on your knees to worship Him. Every person will be doing that anyways as scripture says here: Philippians 2:10-11
New King James Version
"10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
Read this Gospel message as it elucidates further:
"Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
How many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@Dalton Garrett I can prove to you that under the Atheism paradigmatic system that they can't make any claims to have real true knowledge beyond their insular epistemic model that is descriptive of reality that is untenable. Christianity, on the other hand, can.
0 likes@Dalton Garrett "oh no, I’m not even arguing over something as unfalsifiable as the existence of a god. Frankly it doesn’t matter to me either way, and my comment explained why. I think that the most important thing to realize is that if Yahweh existed and everything the Torah/Bible/Quran said about him was true, he’d be an absolute monster. Just be as good of a person as you can be. If no god exists then at least you bettered the world. If a god does exist and they’re righteous they’ll reward you, if they take issue with you not worshipping them then they’re a b**** and not worthy of worship. You shouldn’t allow yourself to be coerced into immorality."
0 likesWhat makes Him a "moral monster" and by what basis do you make the claim and on what grounds are you predicating your moral framework in order to directly judge what Yahweh does as "immoral"
@QuidQuoPro Read this Gospel message that elucidates and goes more into the details for ya.
0 likesWould you consider yourself to be a good person?
How many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@Fa Raz "According to your Islamic belief" doesn't make a claim any less true as a counterfactual about the impossible state of affairs of reality. You must show evidence of the claim that Jesus Christ was just a mere Prophet.
0 likes@Panda .Bubblez Thank you so much brother/sister! God bless you abundantly. Don't worry. I haven't given up haha. Going to dunk on all their claims by the power of the Holy Spirit as He is victorious in the end. No one can stand up to the Wisdom of God revealed to His true servants.
0 likes@Vlad Dascaliuc How do you know that? That is a premature claim as you don't even know what sends people to hell in the first place.
0 likesRead this Gospel message as it elucidates further:
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
How many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@Bertram Shordt Who is that? Sorry.
0 likes@Samantha What is wrong with preaching the Gospel of Truth that many people are in need of by identifying the subtle reason as sin by consequential knowledge of its existence that plagues humanity by just opening your eyes and looking around?
0 likes@Jacob R What do you mean by nothing being everything? Do you mean nothing being the first efficial cause or nothing being a subset of some abstract compacity space in relation to universal inhibitors?
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw my perception of reality operates on a reasonable set of logical presuppositions that need to be made in order for human beings to function in any capacity, many, if not most of which are shared by people regardless of their religious beliefs, or lack thereof. Yours currently and always has operated on the assumption that anything that has yet to be explained must be attributed to god, despite the fact that you’ve been losing on that front for literal centuries, from lightning to disease you’d denied any other explanation besides god and stifled the betterment of humanity in a vain effort to forestall the inevitability of your own irrelevancy
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw also, a minor semantic point that always irks me. The “taking the lord’s name in vain” thing isn’t about what you think it is. There’s an amount of debate over the exact meaning, but there’s two commonly accepted meanings. The first one is not using the true name of god, known only to a select few, frivolously. The word “Yahweh” and especially “god” aren’t relevant to this because they’re simply stand ins for the true name of the Abrahamic god. The second is not swearing upon or before god in a frivolous fashion. Either way, it’s universally agreed upon in theological circles that simply using the word “god” frivolously is perfectly fine.
0 likesAh shit, my first reply got deleted, I’m going to have to redo it
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw to put it very simply, it doesn’t matter how much you try to threaten me with hellfire, seduce me with the promise of salvation, or go on about how swell of a guy Jesus was, because I don’t believe any of that. And even if you were to miraculously supersede every ounce of reason within me and convince me it’s all real, I’m not going to glorify a being I find so thoroughly deplorable, no matter how much he tries to threaten or bribe me.
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw fun fact: i know for a fact hot things burn, another fun fact: i do not believe in hell, living my life avoiding hot things vs avoiding hell are not going to convince me, also, i love you btw, i love how this previously normal comment section became this, thank you :)
0 likes@Dalton Garrett we dont disagree about the existence of a god, i just dont think its useful to say "your god" cause many christians believe it really is their god and not ours, which is why according to them we dont believe in it, and reinforcing that notions not a good idea
0 likes@JustFrankJustDank I’m confused as to your specific meaning. I don’t believe in a god, but I also don’t with any certainty assert that one doesn’t exist. I think they’re both unfalsifiable, though one is far more egregious than the other. My main point is that even if... his god exists, that he’s not worth worshipping
0 likes@Dalton Garrett :l the phrase "dont believe in" means you dont believe in it, not that you believe in the opposite
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw In his own Holy book, the Bible, he predicted the forthcoming of the last prophet Mohammad (PBUH).
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw It's an illusion that the past caused the present. All there is, everything, has nothing outside of it to limit it, therefore it has no limit or need. It doesn't even have the need for a past. There isn't really a moment. There's just limitless causelessness appearing as anything without reason or purpose, completely unbounded by anything, and no one is separate from it.
0 likes@Vlad Dascaliuc Your opinion means nothing as you have grounds to base that claim. It is just directed in an asinine and hubris spiel while predicated on an appeal to emotion which is a fallacy.
0 likes@Dalton Garrett "my perception of reality operates on a reasonable set of logical presuppositions that need to be made in order for human beings to function in any capacity, many, if not most of which are shared by people regardless of their religious beliefs, or lack thereof"
0 likesWhat logical set of presuppositons are those? Tell me about your epistemic virtues and ethical virtues.
"Yours currently and always has operated on the assumption that anything that has yet to be explained must be attributed to god, despite the fact that you’ve been losing on that front for literal centuries, from lightning to disease you’d denied any other explanation besides god and stifled the betterment of humanity in a vain effort to forestall the inevitability of your own irrelevancy"
Um..... no. This is the God of the gaps fallacy here. Also, I haven't even mentioned my metaphysical model of agent causation. Don't start making presumptious baseless mental gymnastic claims now.
"to put it very simply, it doesn’t matter how much you try to threaten me with hellfire, seduce me with the promise of salvation, or go on about how swell of a guy Jesus was, because I don’t believe any of that."
Are you an Atheist? If so, why is that? Also, where have I directly threatened you with hellfire or try to seduce you? Am I trying to conjure you to repentance and warn you of God's Holy Judgment which is consequential to the necessary existence of a polar juxtaposition of eternity system from Heaven?
You are trying to straw-man my original statement.
"And even if you were to miraculously supersede every ounce of reason within me and convince me it’s all real, I’m not going to glorify a being I find so thoroughly deplorable, no matter how much he tries to threaten or bribe me."
This is would result in an illogical Personal Incredilty fallacy. You would rather live in absurdity than open your eyes to the Truth? What if someone were to murderer your family(God forbid), would you say it is fine because your views are illogical and equivocate with worldview with some form of standard which you can't partake of as your opinion won't matter with what they can do as that presupposes some absolute objective teleological truth?
@JustFrankJustDank Why don't you believe in the existence of hell?
0 likes@Fa Raz Where in the bible did he predict the last prophet, Mohammed? If you bring Deuteronomy up, prepared to be annihilated as that would actually result in a contradictory state of affairs within our belief system and would be sophistry.
0 likes@Jacob R " It's an illusion that the past caused the present. "
0 likesThis doesn't even make sense. If there is an illusion of a phenomenological event that exists merely as a form of mental representation of its faculties and features of the mind's cognizant virtual autonomous experience of it, then that would result in a modal collapse of the mind as being necessary with no contingent truths making cognizant contemplations of the material world and the concept of time to be a mere non-propositional knowledgable fact that is indicative and declarative of having no true knowledge or justified true beliefs. You are therefore in a contradictory view of having any epistemic model in the reality of the abstract concept of time.
@Kayvon Crenshaw same reason neither of us believe in nirvana, christianity isnt the only religion in the world and as much as youd like to justify it with logic in an attempt to appeal to atheists, almost all christians are so soley because thats how they were raised, just like every other religion, thats why i dont believe in hell heaven or any of that
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw I appreciate you response. Your apparent intellectual rigor is stunning. The thing is, this (as in literally all there is; everything) doesn't make sense. It doesn't need to make sense. There's nothing else, so there's nothing else to prevent it from being literally infinitely unbounded. Think about that -- infinity. It is well within the infinite capabilities of what is (this) to appear as, say, a complete universe with a history... without that history having actually taken place. This is the big bang right here -- which is still a story. You can relax though -- not only do I not expect you to believe this, it's actually not possible to believe, for if it were believed, there'd be no one left believing it. I don't know this -- if you hear that, you're confusing knowing with there simply being no doubt here. You could conceive of this correspondence as a message from nothing. No one is typing. It's terrifyingly awesome, and laughably ordinary, at once. There isn't anyone separate from looking at a screen -- there's just the infinite appearing as anything, such as looking at a screen. The claim that you know you're looking at a screen is a self fulfilling claim that can end for no reason, but it doesn't really end, it's simply recognized that it never even happened.
0 likes@Jacob R Hmm, you seem to be an epistemic nihilist? Is that true? Why do you believe in an ad infinitum regress of all existential manifestations and ontological abstractions of universals? I will flesh out each of your points later, but if you are an epistemic nihilist, then how do you know your statement is in direct correspondence to the truth in reality and simply not an illusionary by appeal to ignorance? Do you believe in sensual perceptions that make all empirical inferential evidence a normative truth? Is it descriptive or a definitional claim of having propositional knowledge on a solipsist predicated preconceived notions? This will obviously entail presuppositions about specific logical modality truth-makers in reality that can't be simply ignored. I can explain them to you as you will see that your comment doesn't make sense.
0 likesIt seems like you are doing mental gymnastics by endeavoring to almost surreptitiously some esoteric knowledge nihilistic approach and appeal to infinite regress while having to make leaps in your epistemic model that can lead to a modal scope fallacy.
@JustFrankJustDank I don't get how that logically entails that there can't be an absolute objective metaphysical state where out being will reside when there exists an objective moral standard that is projected unto reality that is reflective of our moral obligations and precepts.
0 likesDo you believe in the existence of absolutes? Immanent constitutes that must be a direct correlation to our ontological commitments?
To simplify with a question you may have some form of an opinion that is actually pertinent to this video. Do you believe that Casey got justice for what she did? Was the judge correct with absolving her of guilt and exculpating her with freedom even by de facto evidence that was inherently incriminating?
...and she learned that she can keep doing this sick manipulative job of lies that she can get anything.....
1 likewhy don't they do more with the smelly car? they just never bring it up again after the beggining.
4 likesOkay let me get this straight, Casey’s car had the odor of a decaying body, and they still can’t pin it on her!? The fact that she didn’t contact the cops when she knew her daughter was “missing” the freaking defense still fabricates that there isn’t any evidence? What about the made up people? The misleading? The calm composure she keeps when confronted!?? Something else worth mentioning is when she was on the video call with her parents, at one specific section she began to use past tense when in referral to her daughter, but quickly corrected herself. She did this a few times. But yeah.. sure, let’s let her go because there’s “no evidence” :/
0 likesI just realised while rewatching this, she slips up while talking to her parents just after 29:00 . She uses a .. not quite a past-tense, but damn near enough, certainly not a present tense, that's for sure.
0 likesShe tells her dad that he's been the best grandfather ever.
Not that he is the best,, that he has been .
"You and mom *have been* the best grandparents. Caylee *has been* so lucky to have you."
this is truly the most disgusting and vile thing ever, the fact that she walked away is truly the most awful evil and insane thing ever.
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The way she smiled at the end literally make me disgusted. I see why the legal system is so flawed
80 likesThe devil accepted her sacrifice. Her soul belongs to the devil. We won't see justice in life but in death she will suffer for eternity
69 likes@JB Won It's better to let 10 criminals walk than to convict a single innocent person. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is a tall burden, and it should be.
44 likes@Oat Meal Deus Vult
3 likes@j mula yeah I think there is more to it but yeah
2 likes@satanicglobalistilluminati
18 likesMost vile? Nah. What's vile are the folks that have done decades in prison for crimes not committed. Or the ones that have been exonerated after they've been put to death from a conviction. That's the vile thing
The verdict was correct. Yea, we all think she did it cuz it fits, but nothing PROVES she did it.
5 likes@Ryan Young you clearly do not understand the justice system, there is never "proof" anyone did anything, hitler could have had space brain worms that made him do all of that and he was a nice guy
27 likesa trail is about finding out what is beyond a reasonable doubt and its beyond a reasonable doubt that she was an abusive mother, psychopath and had intentions of killing her kid. She fucking googled foolproof suffocation and the body was found near her house.
@satanicglobalistilluminati
1 likeThe jury felt otherwise
@Lowkey
0 likesThere ya have it.
@JayKrappenshitz not relevant nor does it matter, the jury being terrible and failing at there job does not change the fact that she did this crime beyond a reasonable doubt.
13 likes@satanicglobalistilluminati
4 likes😂🤣
Ok
You're the prime example of why there are 12 jurors on a panel. Ego. Earlier it was you knew she was a liar because of what happened to you. And that it wasn't about guilt. Now it is about guilt.
You jus have that need to be right and the ego won't allow you to let go of that and see other views. But that's ok
@satanicglobalistilluminati
1 likeEverything you just now brought up is circumstantial
Do i think she did it? Yes
Is there enough proof for me to put her away for it? No
And the laughing is at you. You won't get out of your own way. Your ego won't allow it
All of this started with you stating that from your own experience of sexual abuse, you knew she was lying.
Your experience has zero bearing on her lying, only on your feelings
@JayKrappenshitz do you not think circumstantial evidence means anything?
9 likessuppose for a second you walk into a room with me and dead guy who has been shot, I am holding a gun and smoke is coming from it.
does that prove that I shot him? no its pure circumstantial evidence but it shows beyond a reasonable doubt to your mind I killed a man.
We are all responsible
0 likes@Oat Meal i know its awful but the cost of liberation is forgiveness...which seems impossible to do. No body wants tp be this person.or at least no one starts out this way imo. Maybe im a fool..but i need to forgive and i hope im forgiven. Peace
0 likes@Rob M correct
0 likes@j mula no one has a higher standard of living. Males privileged? If a ship is sinking or a building burning...who is saved first? Ok ..im with that..but quit trying to convince me otherwise
3 likes@Jhon Famo
0 likesResponsible for what?
@satanicglobalistilluminati people that right the history books have not always been good guys...just to question whether hitler was a decent person..is considered taboo..then korean war , vietnam, 911 , countless assassinations ..of character and literal. We are the bad guys..we are. Every soul. Having power in a unjust world and using it in a way that excuses injustice is dubious. The way everyone thinks is linked to some bias. We get sold rather than learn..the salesmen know our preferences and all they need to do is tie Untrues in our biases...and we buy..cuz we are right and everyone else is wrong.
0 likesStubborn
@satanicglobalistilluminati I never mentioned God? Seems like you have issues with your inner energy. Dont ignore the signs around you mr. Logical man
0 likes@Jhon Famo I'm no one to judge im not making any judgment on anyone.. i leave all this in the hands of God.
0 likes@Oat Meal you are talking about the devil and then in the next comment you mention god.
1 likecan we please have a fair level of intellectual honesty.
The process to pick jurors for this trial: pick the absolute dumbest people available.
3 likes@redjalapeno when I went to my jury duty it was not like that at all, they brough a bunch of us in and just asked us if there was any reason why we could not be on the jury and unless you had a good reason then they would pick you, even a older black man who clearly was very against the system they let be a juror because he said that well he disliked the system that he individually wont be biased.
0 likes@satanicglobalistilluminati I fixed my comment. I've been on juries and hear what you what are saying.
0 likesIt was with a fit of rage I posted that comment as it is abundantly clear that she murdered her child.
@Oat Meal I am literally shaking and crying right now. I truely believe that sometimes the soul leaves the living human and goes to hell and a demon takes it's place.
0 likes@Love Law thats a little farfetched but I do understand what you mean. I call it "ignorance" the lack of knowledge can get us into trouble. This woman lied her way out of it.. she knew how to get away. But what she doesn't know is KARMA will never leave her alone. She is suffering im sure right now as we speak.. she knows what she did.. and when her "ignorance" is unveiled she will feel the guilt we all hope she feels. We are human.. we all have a consciousness the lies eventually catch up to you.
1 likePolice: Incompetent. Couldn't even collect evidence right and fumbled on everything. Their whole incompetence pretty much allowed Casey to walk.
2 likesProsecutors: Completely incompetent and had no clue what they were doing. Then of course going to the media about the whole case, basically putting out their strategy wide open.
Media: Incompetent and messing with the public which probably even changed the jurors opinions out of spite.
The only ones competent here were the defense who pretty much walked all over them. Casey is a great example for the whole STFU and talk only to your lawyer. Even in the end, they manged to plant the seed of doubt that Casey killed her daughter. Your feelings on the matter don't really matter. If you're upset, blame the very people who messed this up in the first place, the police and state themselves.
@/dev/random I am very upset! But I live in europe.
0 likes@j mula Lol yea well our privilage doesn't get us OUT of much. The public and courts would have made sure she went down.
1 likeIt's like the justice system needs consent for her to be guilty like that dead meme just say no when when you're being rob
1 likeThe issue in the case was that none of the evidence could actually 100% prove murder though, because the defence lawyer came up with a plausible explanation for how it could have been manslaughter or 2nd degree murder, The problem was the charge they gave her. If they hadn’t used 1st degree, it would have gone through. But for 1st degree murder, you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt someone intended and planned to kill someone ahead of time.
1 likeCasey is the type of person to avoid responsibility and just pretend things haven’t happened. One time, she was fired from her job, and in response, she just kept on showing up day after day and working normally, acting like she wasn’t fired until people noticed her that day, and told her to leave. And she just kept on showing up, day after day, until her parents intervened.
So, she has a track record of going out of her way to maintain her borderline delusional image of “normal life”. Is it really impossible to believe that if Casey was negligent, and her daughter drowned while she was on her phone, that she really would just wrap the body up, out in in the wood, and just pretend nothing had happened and everything was still normal? Or at the least, that she “let” her daughter play by the pool until she accidentally feel in, and then pretended not to notice until she had drowned, and then hid the body?
The issue was that this IS a plausible explanation. And even if you think it’s not what happened, in order to be found guilty of something, it has to be the ONLY plausible explanation for something. So even if it was probably a murder, as long as there’s another explanation that is legitimatly equally viable, you can’t find someone guilty of it.
@satanicglobalistilluminati You raised a flag in favor of 'intellectual honesty' like anyone other than yourself cared about your religion-based self-inflicted trauma. He supported the hard fact that Casey is guilty and responded with an emotional statement damning her, and you immediately went and shut him down over something you felt was more urgent to acknowledge- diminishing his beliefs.
0 likesI don't see how you can call for an even-grounded exchange when you're the one who cast the stone in the first place. But I'm sure it's justified in your mindspace.
Her sparring with the detective and being the insane narcissist she is thinking she’s got the detective by the balls cuz she’s so damn smart it’s literally sickening!!!!!! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
0 likesInteresting that heat and humidity can increase the speed of decomposition. The body was so decomposed they couldn’t identify much evidence or cause of death. Someone must have known that which explains the smell in the car. She was left in the trunk in Florida heat. She must have dumped it sometime when she finally came to her parents after the car was towed. Why was her car towed? I swear you can’t find real information on this story. Someone found a way to hide things or throw evidence. Her father used to be a sheriff. None of this makes any sense.
0 likesIf it was a man he would've gotten life in prison. I honestly have no idea how you can justify defending a child murderer as a lawyer. I know what arguments they use for it but it just seems like a way to cope with what they're doing or they just don't care at all. At least she served some years in prison I guess, not nearly enough though. Lawyers have absolutely no honor and will lie about dead victims and other stuff just to defend a horrible person.
0 likesThe jury is incompetent for declaring her innocent. This is just atrocious uggh.
0 likesShe believed she could lie and get whatever she wanted. She was right.
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It’s like winning the lottery. Many believe they can do it, but very few actually do. That tiny glimmer of hope keeps everyone trying.
25 likes@Aurtisan Miner idk if I'd compare winning the lottery to getting away with Killing your own flesh and blood but ok dude.
19 likes@Aurtisan Miner nvm I think I see what u were trying to say my bad. This case just really upsets me and makes me mad :(
9 likesConfessor Cromwell yea, I’m more comparing the drive behind trying to plead not guilty to the drive behind someone with a gambling problem. This case was pretty infuriating, especially if you think about what piss poor circumstantial evidence has locked up innocent people for life.
6 likes@Confessor Cromwell it’s ok to get mad at how this case turned out. I’m gonna get some drinks and snacks and just chill for a bit.
5 likesConfessor Cromwell check out the Sandra Melgar case for one that goes the opposite direction. Forewarning, it’ll really piss you off, too.
3 likesConfessor Cromwell ha ha! If u know of anyone trying to frame someone she’ll be their perfect target!
1 like@Aurtisan Miner ooooh "That Chapter" has a video on Sandra Melgar checking it out now!
1 likeConfessor Cromwell that’s the one I’ve seen. It’s well done.
0 likesMust be all that male privilege i keep hearing about.
0 likesCan't believe she lied about high school and her parents back her up with that lie. Totally enabling her to do this shit. Poor little girl 🙏🏼🙏🏼 she didn't deserve this
1 like100% true and by the way, it's her parents who made her like that.
2 likeswhy when he asks her 'how are you' with the male figure she instead replies how she looks...?
1 likeSee...regardless of this particular in my opinion she looks like someone who's been abused when a child, too prideful to say it and always felt obbliged to lie and be afraid of her mum's reactions, like most of the abused children feel ashamed or anyway coerced to hide...
Detective Melich perhaps should have asked Casey, is there anything in this story you have told us today that IS true vs. untrue. Dang woman!
0 likesWelp, remember when JCS stated how manipulative she was. Jury bought in to her manipulation...
0 likesThe look on her lawyers face after they hugged said everything.
0 likesThe way she talks to her family and friends holy shit. She definitely did it.
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Ya think?
10 likesI said the same thing, the way she cussed at her mom and her ‘best freind’, supported that she didn’t really care
55 likesI'm just baffled, the Jury apparently thought there wasn't enough evidence and didn't like how "robotic" the prosecution was?? Absolutely baffled here.
28 likes@eShum There wasn't enough evidence in fact; they need clear evidence that she killed her, which they didn't have. Clues and indications don't count as clear evidence. As convincing as they may be, it just isn't enough.
5 likesPeople who don't care, don't get emotionally charged.
0 likesYou're following a very thoroughly planned out narrative, because you're incapable of understanding the truth.
@Yazmurat A. oh wow so just be a cold hearted liar don't leave too many clues and you can get away with a murder just like that
2 likesAmazing
@Photo Finish What do you mean
1 likeIf Hell is a real place then Satan has a special 2 person suite set aside for Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson.
3 likesAnd all she wanted was talk to her boyfriend, she let a man take over her mind instead worrying for her child
2 likes@shashlik81
1 likeI don't think she killed her own daughter, but I believe she knows what happened. Probably is just as guilty for allowing it to happen.
It's difficult to decipher the actual truth, but compared to people who have killed someone, this is different.
@Priscilla Garcia stop talking like this is spartacus lmfao, ''over HER mind' ''Worrying for HER child''
1 like@Warlord Imperius but you got the message right? Plus typing on YouTube is so slow unlike in Instagram
0 likes@shashlik81 I don't think you get it; they know shes a murderer but by law they can't really do anything because there is no real evidence linking her to Caylee's death. I don't like it either, but you gotta respect it.
0 likes@shashlik81 If you watched the video I hope you know what I mean by "they know shes a murderer"
0 likesyep
0 likes@Yazmurat A. we have to respect what....them completely messing this up?
2 likes@ShaiJai They didn't mess it up, they just weren't able to fully back their claim. i don't like it but there's really nothing you can do.
0 likes@Yazmurat A. they do for me
0 likes@Vince Nav do what exactly?
0 likesshe gaslights them..
0 likesI actually burst out laughing when she claimed she worked with someone who didn't exist called Juliette Lewis, because that's the name of a famous actress. My god, how was she acquitted.
0 likesWow! Her lawyer was as psychopathic as Casey!
1 likeDude , your contents are a way better than nowadays streaming services
0 likesWord on the street is that she allegedly paid her attorney through specialized services
1 likeSHE SHOWED MORE EMOTION WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED SHE WAS NOT GUILTY THAN SHE DID WHEN HER DAUGHTER WAS "MISSING" .
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She probably felt more emotion at the verdict being read then when she taped her daughters face.
42 likesNothing pleases a psychopath like freedom.......
11 likes@Cøckrõàch yeah whatever
0 likes@Cøckrõàch Maybe, but back then.... Probably not many clubs she could go to without being recognized and beaten senseless. By now she could probably walk right by most people and not be recognized. But her face was known by a lot of people back then.
2 likesthat,s right ,now she can go partying again ,psyco
0 likesShe does actually have a twin brother who drives in nascar, named Racey Anthony. He could have something to do with all of this in the news these days.
0 likesOr found dead!
0 likes@Nancy Martinez I completely understand your sentiments. You maybe want to be careful about saying/how you say someone deserves to be dead. I think that part of what separates us as decent actual human beings from the "monsterous" "barbarous" inhumane beings like her POSING as "people", is the fact that even when we think the planet would be better off without someone in it, we defer to the judicial system and channel our emotions towards better protecting the innocent and caring for our young.
0 likesThe fact her best friend was worried about Casey’s child more than Casey was just proves that Casey’s is a cold blooded monster just as the detective said
0 likesHave no doubt... even if justice was not served in this life, this diabolical creature has not gotten away with anything. The wrath of God that she will face is surely more terrible than anything we humans could devise. RIP Caylee.
3 likesDo not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord.
Romans 12:19
The journal entry's, the internet searches, the list goes on and on...
0 likesShe's guilty as fuuuu-
She literally googled “suffocation” and “foolproof suffocation” the same day she killed her... she didn’t call the police for 31 days that her child was missing. She wrote in her diary she’s more happy then ever meanwhile her child was “missing”. The justice system has failed us😓
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Its made to do that brutha. It promotes immorality while punishing moral men. Welcome to the mystery of iniquity. Codes of death reign supreme and the Laws of Life are mocked. All commercial codes. Because "citizen's" are merchandise..
41 likesDamn I didnt know that, thats insanely sick
5 likes@Vaga-Bard GTF If things like this were the norm instead of the exception, we wouldn't be watching this; People are extrapolating a lot from one case
33 likes@MarkMike there's more of these than one could count that don't get out on the national news. The only thing about this that's an exception is the level of gaslighting. Only matches by the rona games being played right now. Protecting 0.02% from dying and driving 150 million into poverty. And still the masses sleep.
16 likesthe justice system failed that little girl. imagine where she could be now and it’s all her mothers fault. I don’t see why these sort of people have children. I could drop kick them for I all I care.
21 likesThe justice system worked exactly as it should. It didn't fail, but you can make the argument the prosecution failed to present enough evidence to be deemed beyond a reasonable doubt.
14 likesA guy that killed my 2 little cousins (11 and 13) in a head on collision while under the influence of valium that wasn't his only got 5 years in prison,and also admitted to using heroin like a week prior while being in his 60s, the justice system fails more then it should be.
13 likes@Snickers The Cat sorry to hear about that...
3 likes@Cool Guy Aspie I thought there was no way in hell she would walk free. Indeed her lawyer was a G. She owes him
2 likes@H Ward understood. Thanks!
1 like@CalisthenicsForLife this was our generations O.J., if anything
3 likes@MarkMike this case evokes a huge amount of emotion because people feel that Kaylee didn’t get justice. The mother Casey Anthony has a responsibility to her child that she failed to do. What mother doesn’t report her child missing. If memory serves me right Casey Anthony’s mother reported Kaylee missing not CASEY Anthony. . Casey’s mother put Casey on the line to the operator when the operator started asking specific questions. That was after the. 31 days of Kaylee not having been seen. It’s astonishing.
3 likesIncidentally I agree with your statement regarding the current situation we’re facing, I don’t think you can wake the sheep up in this country.
Ya'll got it wrong. Most of the shit is unfortunately circumstantial, which is why she got off. Most of you are thinking the justice system failed us because of that.
5 likesBut what the prevention of conviction based on circumstantial evidence provides is a safety net for those who might truly be innocent. If the law allowed circumstantial evidence to be grounds for a conviction, then anybody on the stand could go to prison entirely dependent on how well the Prosecutor could manipulate a jury. But because real, material evidence is required, someone who never actually committed the crimes they were charged with have a much, much better chance at walking away having been justly tried.
Its not a perfect system. Innocent people still go away and guilty people still walk, but no system is perfect and I think, regarding circumstantial evidence, the way it is now leaves the least amount of room for injustice as possible.
I only wish she'd slipped up and scratched her head or something when she put Caylee in the trunk, because I would love to see her get life without parole in a maximum security hole.
I completely understand, but the presumption of innocence must be honored no matter what it looks like
3 likes@D C every system is flawed. And to expect perfection is to never be satisfied.
2 likesOur justice system is flawed, but its still one of the best justice systems in the world.
@CWARD ZIEGLER this, too. "Innocent until proven guilty."
3 likesThere was a shadow of a doubt with Cacie because there wasn't any hard evidence. So, technically, she's innocent because there's nothing concrete that says otherwise.
Everybody is calling the justuce system flawed because they believe Cacie did it despite not having any evidence to prove it. They're making a judgement out of thin air and complaining that the system doesn't work like that. It's completely nonsensical, frankly.
@D C well that's Jose Baez for ya.
1 likeWhich I'll reiterate is not an issue with the system of laws, but an issue of people. Jose Baez is a shit human being for defending murderers and being able to manipulate people into letting his clients off scott free. Can't blame the jury because they were simply victims of Baez's snake oil. Some blame could go to the Judge because he still could have sentenced her, but I think when a judge goes against a jury that'll be his last case.
My dear Internet,
0 likesPlease, I beg of you, never change 😂
@D C you pose some good points. I spoke to a defense attorney, and his perspective was that he doesn't regard his client as guilty or innocent, and he simply wishes for the "due process" that we, as American citizens, are given rights to.
1 likeBut I call Baez garbage because he refused to look at the glaring evidence, and instead of using the system of laws to properly defend his client, he chose to deceive the jury. That's a split hair, but there is a difference in my mind there that separates the good defense attorney from the garbage one.
The jury, in their imperfection, made their choice out of emotion instead of looking at the facts (which was exactly Jose Baez's words, except he said it in such a way as to actually cause an emotional reaction, which is the garbage part). However, having a jury is what makes our justice system so great: its true democracy. Not the bullshit fascism that the far-left calls democracy, but a real democratic decision. Not social justice, because not just anyone gets to be a juror, and certainly not hundreds of thousands of keyboard warriors, but true justice. And that, I believe, is why our system isn't flawed, but the people who make up our system (because, as with most social systems, systems are comprised of people). As far as the actual laws and codes, they change almost every day and I can't say whether they're just or not. Though I believe what the founding fathers created was pretty damn close to awesome.
@D C i suppose. But if the people weren't flawed, the system itself would be good. There are other systems comprised of people, like dictatorships or communist governments, where even if the people were not flawed, the system itself would still decay. My contradiction is a semantic shortcoming.
0 likesIt wasn't my attorney, just a defense attorney I was able to question. And of.course there's a desire for money, but I don't feel that in itself is wrong. I think the ulterior motives are what separate the good from the bad. Is it truly about giving someone due process, or is it about maintaining a reputation?
And "guilt vs innocence" were my words, not the lawyers.
And yes, I've seen how jurors are selected, and its just another example of manipulation, but that doesn't mean its not democratic at its core. Its only the manipulation of who gets to sit in those seats that demolish the democracy.
She got away with it because she’s a woman.. simple !
0 likesThe system ain't flawed, the people on the jury sure were😆😆😆
0 likesIf you watch the video chat she said to her parents "she was so lucky to have you as grandparents" as in she knew she was dead...I can't believe this wasn't used as evidence or even mentioned
0 likesCasey twin brother DRIVE nascar name of RACEY Anthony LET IT BE KNOWN!!! We must TELL THE SYSTEM!!
0 likes@Vaga-Bard GTF lethality rate is actually 0.5-1%, a big jump
1 like@tustc :3 apologies. Thanks for the correction.
0 likes@Digger Gardi i agree whole heartedly and put forth the idea that it is not just this event that is "theater". 99% of everything on the TV is. The news is what people call "mk ultra" trauma based mind control.. That's why its constant emotional and psychological trauma they spread. Everything from political theater to the theater war.. Everything about society is false and conforming to society makes one just as false. It just so happens there's an arm of the Vatican (HRE) called the society of jesus. Who perform theater on the world stage to manipulate the thoughts of those who see it. Dancing Israelis, you could say. A similar pattern of manipulating the beliefs of people is how they do here on youtube. Go to a cnn video and see 1 like and 9999 dislikes and the comments are filled with AI chat manipulating the people who read the comments.. When one becomes aware of the truth, one gains an understanding of real pain.. Its a sad state of affairs. So many are lost. Its heart breaking.
0 likes@MisterExclusive your argument regarding Casey scratching herself and leaving evidence depends heavily on the age of DNA forensic evidence. Court cases were organised and operated long before we could rely on such methodology. So keeping this in mind, what in your opinion would not be considered circumstantial evidence prior to being able to use DNA evidence?
0 likesThe truth is, there are varying degrees and levels of circumstantial evidence. Pre-DNA evidence era justice used a combination of strong, incriminating circumstantial evidence, and connected the dots. That's how detectives were able to bring charges against people.
Detective reports and testimonies are, and have historically been used extensively in criminal trials to reach a verdict. Your argument falls flat on its face. The one thing you got right, was that the system is not perfect, because it involves imperfect people. But the fact remains, that there was more than enough incriminating evidence to justify a guilty verdict here.
@Vaga-Bard GTF wait a sec.. so... it's easier for you to believe the system is designed to put moral, upstanding, citizens away, and to put people who break the law back on the streets, than it is to believe it's run by people and people make mistakes?
0 likesthis isn't evidence though... this is all speculation! you need evidence or a confession for conviction, and they had neither because she's a cold hearted psychopath that knows how to cover her tracks, unfortunately. If we could be jailed for the things we google search then a lot more of the population would be in jail
0 likes@herogibson yes that is a true statement. But I didn't mean that. Citizen in any form is acceptable. Its the ones who dont bow to men and their commercial codes. Its designed to corrupt the citizens.
0 likes@herogibson The truth is that the State is a conspiracy designed not only to exploit, but above all to corrupt its citizens ... Henceforth, I shall never serve any government anywhere.
0 likes-Leo Tolstoy.
@Lee Wisda but... that IS evidence lol. google the definition of evidence. you will be kicking yourself.
0 likes@herogibson in the literal sense yes it can be evidence, especially in this case. but it can only be obtained as evidence only if a crime has been commited.... and you're a suspect.. and they have a valid warrant for the your computer and the warrant allows them to search the computer... but main emphasis on the fact that a crime has to be committed first. it can be evidence of premeditation but it doesn't physically tie anyone to the crime itself. it can be evidenec of motive. motive and premediation have to be proven in order for them to succefuly try and convict first degree murder. which is most likely why they put so much emphasis on her googling that shit, they were trying for first degree murder. as a stand alone, internet history is not enough to prove guilt BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. They had no DNA evidence, they had no withnesses to the murder, they had no witnesses to the body dump, they had no witnesses to previous abusive or neglectful behavior or at least none that came forward to establish a patterned behavior, they had nothing tying her to the murder other than gut feelings and rumors, and the speculation that her inquiry on google equated to her following through with the inquiry. You can't make conclusions based on rumors and emotions in the court of law, there would be a lot more wrongful convictions if that is the case. **You are innocent until proven guilty beyond a resonable doubt** Again, beyond a reasonable doubt. If you were innocent and being tried for first degree murder you definitely would want the same treatment, and not have people jump to conclusions because you googled some questoinable shit. A good example of this is the case of this guy, i think in florida, who was tried and found innocent because he never commited the crime even though his internet histroy was riddled with cannibalism forums and posts about intending to murder and it came down to the fact that looking up shit and your behavior online is not a crime (********at least in America because its protected under the first amendment*******) without the phsyicality of a crime to follow that up. I stand by my statement that there would be a lot more people in jail if all you had was their interenet history to convict them on.
0 likes@MisterExclusive THANK YOU for being a voice of reason! I watch a lot of these types of videos and you'd think more people would be informed of how our justice system works... i know my rights, i think everyone should, but unfortunately I see the contrary so often.
0 likes@Lee Wisda jesus who you tryin to explain this to? us or yourself?
0 likes@herogibson yeah I've been studying law for 4 years. I can break the law and everything will be fine. I just discredit the word of the accuser and play language games to win in "court". And that's only if i desire to place myself under their jurisdiction. Those commercial codes arent law. Btw. And society is the false reality. I live in the real world. But I appreciate your time.
0 likes@Vaga-Bard GTF eating too much pizza and watching youtube videos
0 likes@herogibson actually studying history of commercial codes (eastern Mediterranean 12 bc and the island of rhodes before that) and their application and alterations across time. Looking at court cases and applications of jurisdiction relating to them. Defining the terms of the game so to actually understand legalese. (Which is Latin, which is the language of the dead)
0 likesLooking at history to see the 3 corporate capitals, london, D.C and vatcian city.
The psychology studies are by far my favorite though. When you actually understand those, then you dig into the ancient myths you see their the same. These 2 things are what the bible is. The beast from the sea is these codes. Commercial codes. Guess whos head of commerce?
You might not get it. But your owners do. And you might not like to hear that but its true. According to the codes a statement not rebutted is legally true. So they made the statement "we own every body and mind on the planet". Until you rebut the claim it is true. If you obey commercial codes (a game of pretend) you are merchandise. They know that, why dont you? What does international law govern? Why are you submitting to it then? And they built everything around it. I recommend you begin studying. The system assumes you know the law and will treat you as such. Youtube is a small tool. Blacks law and Gov.com are useful. A common tactic of unintelligent people is to discredit a source of legitimate information. Just because youtube has some real loons, doesn't take away from the fact that truthful information is also available. If you applied that same logic anywhere else this conversation wouldn't be happening. And its false. So.........
@Vaga-Bard GTF i feel like you have lost the plot here. let's start over, and possibly finish therein. you said her searches weren't evidence. i said they were. then you said they are in the literal sense of the word or whatever.. so.. literally evidence, in your words. conversation could have been over with there. but you're trying to prove to either this comment section, or yourself, that you know all the things, and you're real, not fake. so, you keep going on and on and on and on lmao.
1 like@herogibson im honestly ashamed of myself for missing that.... I too study those things.. I think im to serious. Thank you for a very important lesson. I needed it.
0 likesThat wasn't me that you discussed evidence with tho. It was Lee Wisda. But I appreciate your time nonetheless. Thanks.
@Vaga-Bard GTF i knew someone had lost the plot here, but it wasn't you.. it was me lol. many apologies.
1 like@Vaga-Bard GTF wtf lol
0 likes@vaughn amir. Whats up.? Are you curious about one of my comments? Or were you not aware that the state (and society) are false, totally imaginary and exist only to extort the individuals and most importantly to corrupt them... Theres a reason lawyers destroy law, cops destroy liberty, teachers destroy education, politicians destroy nations, mans religion destroys truth and the news blasts bad news 24/7.. Reality is inverted for those who are ego based. The actuality is the opposite of what things seem to be. The truth is within but 99% worship some external source of pleasure..
0 likesFigured id cover all possibilities.
Even after 31 days she didn't call the police, it was her mother that did it. And in the background she said "I have nothing to say to them".
0 likesI can’t believe how unfair this whole thing was. She killed her daughter. Lied consistently. Then told everyone my dad hurt me. Wow wow
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why tf would she cap like that
65 likesWhy do people lie out of their ass? My dear, you have alot more life to live and people to meet.
84 likesHer lawyer focused on George, her father, it was a dick move. He said she’d been sexually abused by her father & her brother since she was very young. He also said that Caylee drowned in the family pool, that George found her & told Casey to act like nothing was wrong because people knew she was neglectful mother & she’d be put in prison for child neglect. He went on to say George was an ex police officer & he put Caylee’s body there after the fact, since the the police had already checked there. He totally turned the focus around from Casey to her father George. They had to all agree w/o a reasonable doubt, but because that made some of them skeptical of George’s involvement. Her lawyer also brought up her non chalet attitude & pointed out that Casey was used to acting like nothing was wrong since she’d been molested her whole life by her dad and brother, it really put a spanner in the works, since there was treasonable doubt they all agreed on a not guilty verdict. . I know it’s crazy !
173 likes@Amber Chipchase Hayes tbh her lawyer is a really good one. Being able to turn a case like that shows it all
157 likes@Davide Passarello this case in my opinion was a complete fraud ... lying about the work lying about the babysitter making people up an what not she lied literally about everything she opened her mouth about and all of those things combined and she still is free out there ... a true psychopath edit: plus the google search history ... truly terrifying
133 likes@David Todevski from a legal stem point they still don't have anything to prove it was her. That's why the defense was really clever
34 likes@Shades 1.5 ye exactly. Rational evaluation might not work every time and this is an example, but it works most of the time. And laws can't be adapted to single cases
8 likesShe's innocent.
2 likes@finmat95 how
11 likes@Onyxiate She was found not guilty
5 likeswhen they talked about the dad i could not believe i was in awe. this is insane.
17 likesI looked it up and you will be happy to know that she actually did serve a 4 year sentence for the lying part at the very least... Still though she desserves life in prison at the very least. Jury must have been full of idiots that were not paying attentionto the evidence and were easily won over by the defences charm, a good Lawyer but an absolute scumbag technique.
37 likes@Davide Passarello I would even say, it works every time, even if it feels otherwise. This is the perfect example, without real proof/evidence, the whole story is just speculation based on speculations. Her lawyer, as you said too, was amazing...coming up with a story wich is pretty much impossible to prove or disprove and debunking ( maybe not the correct word, english isnt my first language ) the prosecutor at the same time, was insane.
9 likes@Shades 1.5 I agree with you also for being sociopathic like that means she had a childhood trauma for sure. And the way she bursts into tears when they evoke the sexual abuse when she is otherwise completely cold. And the absence of reaction of the dad in front of the accusations. I genuinely believe that her dad abused her AND that she killed her child, both make sense to me.
11 likes@Shades 1.5 But it was her father who reported that her car smelled like a corpse, plus her mother called the police. And how they interacted while she was on county jail kinda rules that out, did you watch the video?
6 likes@Lila "A man close to me abused me, and that's the reason I act like this" is the most basic trope to evoke simpathy...
21 likes@Shades 1.5 Also, remember that she searched how to suffocate someone on Google, man, and that the defense was not consistent. They claimed Caylee drowned, yet she had duct tape over her face, plus Casey's journal about how she made the right decision and was the happiest she ever was...
26 likes@Shades 1.5 How so? Can you elaborate?
1 like@Shades 1.5 If her dad, who was a cop, staged everything, then why did she search on Google how to suffocate someone without it being noticed, why did they drop the body so close to their home, why did she went out partying 24/7 while her daughter was supposedly missing, why did she lied about the nanny and basically everything? Doesn't look like something staged by a someone with inside knowledge about how the police works at all.
29 likes@Shades 1.5 My point is that there was a substantial amount of evidence pointing towards her as the murderer, and that she got away due to the lack of a confession, a highly skilled attorney and a bad prosecution.
18 likes@Shades 1.5 How so? You are the one that agreed with the defense statements about her father.
1 likeClassic red herring
1 like@Shades 1.5 no one cares about you trying to play devil's advocate. It's inappropriate and repulsive.
19 likes@peadar mckinney he spent his whole life accepting and forgiving her, and she treats him like this?. this is what spoiling, giving everything to your child, giving them 0 discipline does.
14 likes@Lila Her and Diane Downs. 1982. Farrah Fawcett played her (Diane) in Small Sacrifices.
1 likeThe level of bullshit in this case is stunning and could last several human lifetimes
6 likesexactly! if she drowned in a pool why would her remains be found in some damn woods wrapped in a blanket
6 likesEvidence is the key
0 likes@peadar mckinney yea
0 likes@Shades 1.5 it is much more than feelings, i put logic over feelings and even i can tell this case was fucked beyond recognition...someone already brought up the computer and the diary, which already disproves some of the points the defense made. and why the duct tape? it’s all EVIDENCE pointing to a different direction, NOT feelings
14 likesif she was a man would never be a free man but she’s a woman so got away with it
5 likeswhere is dexter when you need him?
4 likes@prod. waviee That’s not actually true. They usually ream mothers who kill their children, because it’s more shocking, plus, due to the fact that they let men out earlier for the same crime because the prisons for men are so overcrowded, women serve longer sentences for the same crime.Women are found not guilty by reason of insanity, however.
1 like@Shades 1.5 I don’t get how you could believe she didn’t murder her daughter. The evidence is right there and you choose to ignore it.
8 likes@M Kuti-Childress That’s irrelevant in this case since they were initially seeking the death penalty.
0 likes@Shades 1.5 you are very unintelligent.
7 likes@Shades 1.5 how is it 20/20 hindsight if this evidence was presented in court to the jury? It seems that people who call others "idiot" and "emotional" on the internet tend to be guilty of these things themselves.
13 likes@M Kuti-Childress idk i just feel like if a man did the exact same thing he’d be scolded
1 like@Davide Passarello That more highlights the problem with the justice system than how good of a lawyer they were.
2 likes@Davide Passarello no, it just shows how dumb and easy to manipulate the jury is. Every murder case's defense comes up with some ridiculous spin on things. He added not only one lie about drowning but then had to use the father sexual abuse card to justify her being a pathological liar.
5 likes@Amber Chipchase Hayes 1(charismatic lawyer with talent for showmanship and spinning tall tales) + 1(12 idiots on the jury who don't understand the difference between circumstantial evidence and reasonable doubt) = 2(not guilty verdict)
2 likesIt just comes down to reasonable doubt. There was physical evidence, however, there can be doubt in what the evidence actually means. For instance, with the car, I believe it was proven that a body was most likely in the vehicle. If I remember correctly, they even found a hair that was proven to have come from a human corpse. However, there can still be reasonable doubt as to who’s body it was, who put the body there, who actually murdered the person, if the person was actually murdered or if perhaps they died some other way, and so on. Our justice system operates in a way that, if and when you land on one of these juries, if you think there’s even a tiny possibility that they did not commit the crime, you cannot convict. In cases like this, it does seem wildly unfair. But knowing just how many wrongful convictions occur on a daily basis even WITH this practice, I do think it is much more fair than the alternative. Now, that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t love to see Casey experience some less “official” justice... I personally believe that she did kill Cailey, and it’s beyond upsetting to think about her living life just like the rest of us. The prosecution should have fought harder for a confession. That was the only thing that would have won this case.
1 like@Lila she lied about literally everything, you don’t think she can shed a few tears for the supposed abuse? I personally don’t believe she was abused. Just another grasp for innocence like the drowning in a pool story that obviously worked, painting her as some “traumatized poor mother.” Pathetic.
4 likes@Amber Chipchase Hayes - What if all that's true and she didn't do it?
0 likesFor me this is an example of how the justice system is broken. The defense wins the case because the lawyer is a superior public speaker and knows how to manipulate the jury... sad for that little girl
5 likesWait like her father she was talking to in the video
0 likesSpoiler alert
0 likes@Shades 1.5 did you know she actually confessed to killing her years after being cleared of all charges?
2 likesbroke 69 replies yayayyaa
0 likes@Shades 1.5 you’re making assumptions about me... sounds like you might be going off of emotions. i actually did read everything. i know what the outcome of the case is, and i understand your point.. but just cause the law ruled her out, doesn’t mean she’s not guilty.
4 likes@Shades 1.5 u also are speculating just because the father was a cop out of statistics , there were also tiny bits of evidence that really make her look suspect as hell and that also seemed plausible , just because it had emotion attacthed to it doesnt make it a complete shit reasoning like who wouldnt feel such a way about someone. Really a major player to her success was her lawyer
4 likes@Shades 1.5 oh well
3 likes@Shades 1.5 all u was saying basically was law doesnt care about feelings , yet not seeming to acknowledge both sides manipulated emotions of people viewing both sides ... no matter how much people want to seperate from emotion.. its literally human nature to have emotion
3 likes@Shades 1.5 dawg just cause im debating with u doesnt mean i didnt understand what u meaning. Dont start sounds corny now , i was mainly speaking on this particular case might have trailed off a sentence or two but that its .
0 likes@Shades 1.5 Nothing sucks more than a dense person arrogantly thinking they are smarter than everyone else.
5 likes@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing? lol what? I didn’t want people to get the idea that I was in any way defending this woman, so I was trying to be as clear as I could with what I was saying...Was I supposed to use emojis or something to keep it light? Not sure what you want. All I did was give an opinion on why the jury gave a not guilty verdict. I’ve been stuck on a jury before, and I based my opinion on my experience with being on a jury and what I happen to know about the case. Im not saying I’m happy she got off. I wish she was rotting just as much as everyone else here. Sometimes there’s not enough evidence, and sometimes the evidence that IS there can be explained away. What, did I invent doubt? Anyways, props to you for the insight you brought to the table i guess, even if it was just that you didn’t like how i said mine and that i created the jury system
0 likes@Shades 1.5 Even if it’s “FAcTS OvEr FeElinGs” this entire case was stupid and she was only proved innocent due to a horrible defense. Any logical person could obviously see that she was guilty. Facts over feelings doesn’t ignore basic common sense. Killing a child is a serious offense and they should’ve focused on the case better expect ignoring it and focusing on how the child got sexually assaulted.
3 likes@Shades 1.5 trial was not fair though? The defense team was great at deceiving the jury, that’s it. The evidence points towards her yet the defense ignored it and went on to other things
1 like@Shades 1.5 literally all of the comments disagreeing with you are getting more likes...sit down 😭
0 likes@dead yami literally 😩
0 likes@Shades 1.5 whatever you say 😂
0 likes@Shades 1.5 if my “feelings” are correct (even if it’s obvious she’s guilty DUE TO FACTS) then I’d rather listen to that than the “facts” that you ignore :)
0 likes@Vindio Villarroel and that tattoo
0 likes@Shades 1.5 Can you elaborate on wich topics am I confused?
0 likesyeah like they just straight up lied about everything and she just got away with it like wtf
0 likesWait a minute if the dad was accused of the baby drowning and he was a retired cop then he should’ve known how to implement CPR so it’s not adding up
0 likes@finmat95 huge difference. she is not innocent at all no matter how you look at things.
0 likes@Juhu Mamamam Sentence was clear.
0 likes@finmat95 not being found guilty doesnt mean you are actually innocent.. you do realize this? lol
0 likes@Juhu Mamamam What?
0 likesI'd never get over the fact that the jurors found her NOT guilty.
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HUH
12 likes@KINGOFTHEDEAD pisses me off on a whole other level kaylee deserves justice and there was fuckin evidence of the mother being a monster
106 likes@Just Another Youtuber her being a white women has nothing to do with it, her lawyer was just that good.
98 likes@Free Country it’s the truth kid. The entire country is low hanging fruit
62 likesBeyond a reasonable doubt .. I've seen other cases for much less of a crime.
13 likesIt’s stomach churning
7 likes@KINGOFTHEDEAD court ans jury duty has to work on evidence, even if you think she's guilty unfortunately they couldn't tie her to anything except lies which her lawyer helped her get out of
6 likesme 2
0 likesAt the time, I had a co-worker who thought Casey did not actually kill Caylee herself, that she gave the kid to someone else to take care of, and something went wrong. That could be true. That's why there was reasonable doubt and the jury had to acquit; there was not enough evidence that she did it herself. She may at least share moral responsibility (under my co-worker's scenario) but that's not enough to convict.
3 likes@Jet' T You take narratives as evidence and think you're making a strong point in the process
7 likesOur justice system says you need to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. This video doesn't have all the evidence or testimony. Only the people that were in the courtroom, the entire time, can have a true opinion on reasonable doubt for this case. If you are on a jury, and you are not fully convinced of guilt, you have reasonable doubt. Trials are not decided on the news, by media personalities that are just trying to make a name for themselves, or saying whatever they need to, to get ratings. In this video, the defense lawyer provided an alternate scenario. The prosecution could only speculate what actually happened. The burden is on the prosecution to prove the case. With only speculation on the events that lead to the death, and the defense giving an alternate scenario to the evidence, there is surely reasonable doubt.
6 likesI agree 💯. This should be called how to get away with murder ✍️. It's a tragedy...
2 likes@Just Another Youtuber Race, gender, and even attractiveness play a part in a person's conviction. That is a proven fact! There is tons of research to prove that so anyone who says otherwise is just plain ignorant or dumb. However I will say that lawyer made that happen for her more than anything. She also lucked out by having a really dumb jury that day.
17 likesDon't forget, it's also in Florida.
5 likesShe’s a white women not an unarmed black man what’d you expect
8 likesThey thought she was too cute and innocent looking to go to prison 😆 sad reality but its the truth..
5 likestrue. stupid justice system. justice only works when people are found guilty and not when they are found guilty.
0 likes@Just Another Youtuber Yupp!!!
1 like@Just Another Youtuber has nothing to do with it. Stop spreading hate and racism!
7 likes@C G has everything to do with it. And how am I spreading hate by stating a fact. Sounds like you can’t handle truth
15 likes@Just Another Youtuber Why obsess over one data point? In court many factors come into play. Intelligence, good lawyers, gender, attractiveness, money, socio-economic background, criminal history, State/County/City trial is held in, media coverage, prosecutor, luck/skill at selecting jurors, social or political movements going on around time of trial. That plus a thousand other factors besides race.
7 likesBecause shes not guilty, the child died in the pool under tge oarents care. Her mother saw the child floating in the pool. Have anybody thought that there is no father figure that came out in the case the one they said was the father is an actor afraid of the ex police ti harm him maybe. For he never stood firm as the father there are nany acts in thise case.
0 likes@Misty Rivers Why did she party and lie constantly then?
4 likes@Ashton Hashbrown show me a single case where a black woman has had the same mercy. I'll wait.
9 likes@sarasthoughts that is still consistent with my co-worker's theory, that she gave the kid to someone to take care, and something went wrong. We still don't know that SHE killed her daughter. We actually don't know whether anyone killed her, she may have died in an accident or from neglect, etc. I agree that someone other than a young pretty white woman would have had an uphill climb to get acquitted, but I can see why the jury found enough reasonable doubt. What we know of her actions are despicable, but were not enough to convict.
0 likesProbably paid off
1 like@Free Country well it's low hanging but really think if a black women did this
4 likesYeah it was absolutely awful she didn't get life in prison.
2 likesSeveral of the jurors actually believed her to be guilty. 100%.
3 likesBut due to the laws of the charges against her--and the lack of direct evidence...they couldn't convict her.
The jurors KNOW she did it. It was the lack of DNA and lack of forensic evidence which exonerated her.
It's so sad.
White lies and tear’s
1 likeFlorida.
0 likes@Scott G98 Is that how reasonable doubt in this context is actually defined?
0 likesIf her name was Chris Watts, she’d be in jail for life. But she’s a woman.
0 likesWhite pretty woman.
0 likesHoliday coming up. Jury wanted OUT.
0 likes@Misty Rivers what are you even talking about? Where your proof for this nonsensical statement?
0 likesThe prosecution was horrible. I watched the entire case. The defense demolished them in every way. It’s sad because she’s 100% guilty. The Justice system failed Caylee with horrible prosecutor’s
3 likes@Chris Money did Caylee die from drowning or from being suffocated and then thrown in the pool to look as if she had drown?
0 likes@I'm just a girl nice deflection. That’s not the point. But I know you’ll keep playing ignorant so I’m not even going to engage with you
4 likes@I'm just a girl it’s a nice deflection because that’s what you did. What does OJ have to do with white women? Or this white woman?
4 likes@I'm just a girl OJ had money.
0 likes@Just Another Youtuber maybe you should go some place where race relations are less tense, like China.
4 likesOr North Korea.
never? How poor your life must be.
0 likes@Just Another Youtuber a pretty white woman
0 likes@hellyfake you tweaking
1 like@Just Another Youtuber I mean yes I guess hahahaha
0 likes@Just Another Youtuber reinforcing your point, and stating my opinion you're welcome
0 likes@Ashton Hashbrown actually it does. A lot of external factors played a part. Please look at the history of court cases.
1 like@Misty Rivers so why didn’t she report it to the police? why did she make up stories ab the nanny and the people she worked with? why did she lead the police in a wild goose chase? why was caylee found w duck tape over her mouth? why did the trunk of the car reek of a dead corpse? explain that.
1 like@Just Another Youtuber And her baby was a white little sweet girl. What does that have to do with it?
0 likes@potocatepetl it has everything to do with it, why do y’all keep asking the same stupid question?
1 likeI don’t get why they didn’t do anything about the clear child neglect.
2 likes@yung jrizzy oh yeah, you mean another one of those innocent didn’t do nothing black guys that runs away from police and disobeys orders 🤣🤣
0 likesThat's Florida
0 likes@Just Another Youtuber woah dude stop posting cringe
2 likes@KINGOFTHEDEAD the scary part is her parents there watching emotionless
0 likes@Walczyk ligma
0 likes@Just Another Youtuber everyone arguing in this comment section are agreeing on the main fact that the justice system in America (not just America) is fucked up. I don’t think you meant that the only factor in her being found not guilty is her being a white woman it definitely could’ve played a part.
0 likes@Just Another Youtuber Good comeback cringy boi
0 likesIt wasn't their fault, the prosecution simply didn't do it's job well enough
1 likeWhat proof of murder did they have? Could they prove it was the mother who killed? You can't convict on feelings, no matter how strong. She desvered child neglected tho
0 likes@Richard Forrester you didn’t make a point. You asked me to explain something that’s already been explained. Go read a book kid lmao
1 like@Just Another Youtuber nice cringe redditor comeback
0 likes@Chuck imagine still thinking “cringe” is a thing I’m 2022. Nice unintelligent reply. 😂 get back on your short bus kid. Please
1 like@Richard Forrester here’s a tip: learn how to at least spell before acting ignorant. At least let it appear like an act lmao. I don’t know what a “answear” is
1 like@Richard Forresteryou mean how you’re deflecting away from my point by bringing up OJ?
1 likeBroken system
0 likes@Richard Forrester Zimmerman was not justified. Smollet is in court right now. So now you’re a fortune teller? He’s going to face justice. He was community policing. He was never a real officer. In that case Smollet is justified since we can just say what we are and it never has consequences. It doesn’t matter if Ted Bundy got the chair if they still make movies and documentaries about them. He’s still being hailed as some mastermind. And oh boy. There you go with the shoulda coulda woulda. White people should’ve never colonized America. MLK could’ve never been shot. Once you start bringing up the “should’ve” you’ve lost kid. Go to school 😂
1 like@IsabellaKayful I take pride in educating the ignorant lol
1 likeRepublikan, they are never guilty 😔
0 likes@Just Another Youtuber Are you calling the jury racist or what??
0 likes@Angad Singh I’m not saying anything I didn’t type.
0 likes@Just Another Youtuber it doesn't. Both my parents are white and both are serving over 30 year sentences in separate prisons for completely seperate things. Most of the people there are white and spanish
0 likesShe's clearly not guilty. Blame Jeff Ashton and Florida laws.
0 likesFinding a person guilty or not guilty is not based on what the person did, guilty or not, but solely on the evidence presented. That's the law, and that's to protect the innocent as well as protect the guilty in some cases.
0 likes@netherwarper that’s one case in the millions of other injustices. Just because your parents got their justice doesn’t mean the millions of others didn’t.
0 likesDon’t be mad at the jurors be mad at the state for not having enough evidence.
1 like@Erin Stanger BINGO
0 likes@Just Another Youtuber You mean EXACTLY like this case? the one you're heavily insinuating the outcome is primarily racially driven despite the incredibly obvious fact the verdict was reached because of a lack of evidence? it was incredibly obvious she was involved - but you can't exactly charge someone with murder without any concrete evidence unless they practically admit to it.
0 likesIf she was hypothetically found guilty, would her race, gender, appearance, socio-economic status etc etc absolutely play a factor? without a doubt - but you're straight up just grasping at straws literally because she's a white, it's ignorant as fuck and helps absolutely no one - especially those actually discriminated against in this context.
Because there wasn't enough evidence.... you have zero clue about the process obviously....
0 likes@TheChinaVirus MadeInChina3 lmfao so now you’re gonna pretend like you’re trolling because you don’t have a point. I see the special class let out early today
1 like@yung jrizzy OJ Simpson though
0 likes@XANLY Sphynx OJ Simpson did this though
0 likesCasey lying about her father was beyond disgusting. I can’t imagine how depressed I would be if someone close to me made up those disgusting lies especially considering how that same father, Caylee’s grandfather, seemed to have nothing but love for his granddaughter
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You dont know
36 likesI hope her father disowned her after that.
174 likes@Intensity . Density
51 likesOr, he was in on it to get his daughter out of jail.
@Liqtor You mean that’s what you think…
12 likes@Intensity . Density he killed him self after the trial, or tried to during it
53 likesNot backing het up at all but maybe pops was never there to begin with so this is his way of showing his guilt I don't know we don't know but my father is never there for my kids thinks only money is the answer so I know it hapoens
4 likesThere is smth really weird about this kid. Firstly, we never know about the identity of father. He never showed up to court. Okay, there is a possibility that she accidentally got pregnant during a hookup but never involving kid’s dad in this is kinda weird. And are we sure she is lying about her dad? Idk. I feel like there are a lot of things that jury didn’t disclose to media. Maybe she was cold blooded inhuman person cuz of her kid being her dad and her?idk but smth is off with story. Especially considering how family is scared of embarrassment (like they threw a party for fake graduation lol)that’s actually concerning situation. I believe that this woman has killed or caused the death of the kid but I am sure that she wasn’t the only person who is involved in this. She got help.
45 likes@Emily Wan Dosen I absolutely agree. I think there are much more aspects and shades to this case. Too bad the general opinion is extremized. Yeah she's an awful person, but this doesn't mean that she can be the only one. I was surprised to see that anyone took for granted that she was outright lying about her dad. I don't think that a healthy family can grow such a person like her, is that possible? Idk.
38 likesActually that makes sense of her behaviour, i think that was true.
8 likes@Daddynowski she said to him that he was a great father and an even better grandfather, if he done that why would you leave your kid with him?
28 likesOk being touched is bad and I’m nit gonna minimize it but murder stacks higher that touching someone
3 likesI don’t know, I mean the lies are disgusting but he seemed to support Casey even though he must have known she did it. They’re all disgusting in my opinion.
7 likes@Brittany Anne it was during the trial. I remember the defense having a field day with him cuz he went to a hotel and took a bunch of Xanax attempting suicide. Poor guy
9 likesHe could have …. I mean what kind of dad goes in to watch his daughter deliver a baby? I mean seriously
4 likes@J. Her true.
0 likesI think she was lying, but we don’t know.
She might have told the truth about that.
@Brittany Anne lol which is it?
0 likesAnd what’s your source?
@Flame Yy Why would you compare those two situations in the first place?
3 likes@Emily Wan Dosen I've never heard anyone talk about this case this way and honestly my brain broke a little. It would explain....a lot
4 likesI'm actually genuinely curious if that was a lie or not. Hard to tell for sure
0 likesI think it’s actually very likely that she really was abused by her father. If the defense wanted to make up some fake story of her being abused to explain her behavior, there was no reason for them to choose the father as the fake abuser, they could’ve chosen literally anyone else. Plus, the logic does follow that being abused like that as a child and learning to lie to cover it up would explain a lot of her behavior. Also yes she left her daughter with him, but 1) someone who’s been in denial of their abuse their whole life can easily continue to exist in that state where they pretend like everything’s fine 2) she clearly didn’t have that much regard for her daughter’s life anyway so why would she care enough to make sure she doesn’t get abused?
5 likestldr: Casey Anthony is mad guilty and talking about her abuse as a child was a fucked up way to get sympathy, but that doesn’t mean the abuse never happened
@Sydney Brun-Ozuna they used the father because nobody else would have immediate and constant access to Casey than him to commit the abuse…then the weight alone of a father doing that versus anybody else grabs attention more.
7 likes@J. Her it wasn’t brought up until so late in the case, it’s obvious that it was made up to make Casey seem like a victim
4 likes@Laura Sofia the granddad wants nothing to do with her
3 likes@Sydney Brun-Ozuna How can you be so gullible as to believe this abuse story? She lied about every single detail possible, why in the hell would you believe her 1000th excuse after the previous 999 all turned out to be lies? She would come up with anything to ease her sentence or manipulate the case otherwise. Choosing her father is the most 'logical' choice and she obviously has no regard to his well being as she is extremely egoistical and would lie and sell her entire family if it meant her benefit.
15 likes@Flame Yy
2 likesNo it does not, sexual harassment is way worse than murder, I’d definitely rather be killed than sexually harassed, especially by my own father! U have no idea
She probably told him he was lucky she didn't pin the murder on him.
3 likes@Rockswanninoff "the Mom has the sort of personality disorder that only happens to people with fucked up childhoods."
2 likesYou know this because you're so well attuned to popular narratives? Is that it?
@UnikoU ARMY No it is definitely not. I'm sure the overwhelming majority of sexual victims are glad they are still alive, as hard as their trauma might be.
8 likes@jumpinjohnnyruss chill 💊
0 likes@Brittany Anne He went to a motel and brought plenty of pills and liquor with the intent and in his own words later said 'I guess I didn't take enough'
0 likesMessed up
1 like@Laura Sofia I agree. Her parents are messed up to. How could they be so nice to her knowing she did something to her own daughter. And it made me cringe how her father addressed her as "her gorgeous"...it is not hard to see why Casey values her appearance and having fun above being honest and a good person!
0 likesA lot of women are like this. They only care about having fun. Fun 24/7. They can't have a serious conversation. They think everything is funny. I find it disgusting. How can people like Casey exist where she had no remorse about what she did to her own daughter.
Im not saying her story about abuse is true....but something clearly happened in her childhood to make her a compulsive liar.
0 likesI don't believe a word that comes out of this woman's mouth! Casey's parents believed everything she said. She never had consequences. I think she's surprised the cops wouldn't buy her lies. For that she reminds me of Josh Duggar.
0 likesWe will never know the truth. But I can tell you from other facts & research that it does NOT take being brought up in a bad situation to make you a psychopath like Casey was. I have seen it happen to people with perfect families. Sometimes the brain just doesn't work the same in some people. Regardless, I could see the pain of losing both granddaughter & daughter in their eyes when this happened. They tried their best to find out where Caylee was. It broke their heart to know Casey most likely did something bad to her. How can any parent comprehend their kid doing this to their grandbaby. It is literally incomprehensible. I pray for them. It is something that will haunt them forever. 💔 May little Caylee rest in peace. 😢
1 likeHad I been a father, I would have probably ran with it if it meant saving my daughter from the death penalty.
0 likes@Milky Way I do that to my daughter. I say "hey pretty baby" and nothing is meant other than me saying I think she's pretty. He probably said that considering how stressful he knew she was and that kind of compliment can help. He didn't exsert any other suspicion or continually talk to her in an inappropriate manner.
0 likes@UnikoU ARMY I'm sorry it has happened to you but I don't believe you in the least.
0 likesYou are still alive, still having fun, still watching Youtube videos, have your entire life ahead of you.
Take whatever professional help you need, reach out to people, stop overdramatizing and move your life forward, something that the dead cannot do.
@Vladi P the only reason I’m still alive is that I’ve tried so many times to unalive myself, but failed and I’m sick of being on watch. Also who says I’m having fun? U just assumed that 🙃
0 likes@UnikoU ARMY Because you are still capable of doing things you like for fun (like being on Youtube right now) and will be able to for many years to come. Even traumatic/depressed people are having fun from time to time or under certain activities. You still have people that care about you around you. Moods/depressions are things that come and go.
0 likesYou sound like you are still a child, so I guarantee you a day will come when you are happy and remember the things you've just said as cringey overdramatization.
You have one life, full of potential to overweight whatever trauma you've went through. The dead don't have that and you do not wish to be in their place.
I strongly hope wherever Casey Anthony is, no matter what she does; people recognize her and remember what she did and treat her accordingly.
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like it or not, she was not convicted so making her not able to work is setting her up for welfare for life, I would like her to work and not be supported by me
110 likesAgreed. If anyone meets her, they should buy her drinks. Totally awful what she had to go through being falsely accused and losing her daughter
22 likesShe's in Florida in an extremely nice neighborhood & running off money she got under table from people who thought she was hot
112 likes@Hackerwacker did u even watch the full video?
281 likes@ZeroG no lol clearly they didn’t
176 likes@Bell E yeah fr lmao
67 likesOk whacked hacker, I’m just gonna assume you’re being completely facetious!
71 likes@Hackerwacker Is this a joke?
61 likes@ZeroG Yes. Disgusting what the police made her go though. Poor woman.
14 likes@Hackerwacker if you're being sarcastic you picked the worst possible place to do so
152 likes@Sharon Herzog I think she should be put into forced work and have it be working directly for someone else so that she could NEVER be the main character in her own life.
31 likes@Hackerwacker Did we watch the same video?
32 likes@cheezkid26 That's your fantasy. She was found innocent in court.
5 likes@ZeroG apparently you didnt because she was found innocent.
4 likes@Hackerwacker Is that you Casey typing all this BS
118 likes@Hackerwacker she did it dork
14 likes@Paul Watson no according to the state of Florida
4 likes@Hackerwacker Why are you even defending a mother who has a history of lying (skips loads of school) and after her child went missing goes to visit her boyfriend instead of calling the police for over 30 days lies again about where she works makes up random peoples names to blame for something she did How can you with a working human brain see all this evidence even her parents believing she did it and still think she is innocent
47 likes@Aozoraii Plays It doesn't matter what "Evidence" you create in your fantasy, she was found innocent in court and it's disgusting what the cops and people like you put that innocent woman through
3 likes@Hackerwacker nice troll
27 likesPeople do not feed the trolls plz lmao
13 likes@Saint Lynnie That is pure conjecture
1 like@Hackerwacker
3 likesYep, and Bill Cosby also got let out over a technicality, because the court system isn't perfect.
@dodgersfn Shepard lets go find her and do caylee justice <3
3 likes@erin basulto you don't threaten me with a good time. Frankly I feel if someone did, this type of event would almost cease in America because these ppl would have to fear the "justice" system & public retaliation. I also don't know why but I feel like it'll be a headline soon, like someone snapped on her in a restaurant or something
0 likes@Hackerwacker Aahh, trolling out the barrel.
2 likesIf I ever saw her in person, someone will have to bail me out of jail.
1 liketreat her accordingly?? as she gives fuck about anyone now that she's free.
1 like@ZeroG it’s obviously a troll. Don’t feed the trolls 😆😖
2 likes@Aozoraii Plays that is a hilarious idea. That Casey Anthony became an internet troll 😆😆
1 likeyes and she also looked like that lady who claimed she is an innovator, who made herself looks like steve jobs with big eyes but a liar
1 likeLook up "Casey Anthony calls the cops" someone threw a drink on her lmao
1 likeNope! She has multiple businesses and married to a lawyer who worked on the OJ Simpson case. Writing a book+movie about herself rn. Can't make this stuff up.
1 like@Hackerwacker Are you lost your mind !!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
2 likes@Aaron same lawyer that got her off?
0 likesHow in the world can anyone rationalize not calling "no one" when Yours or anyone's loved one or cared for goes missing.
0 likesChum on now...
She's in Palm Beach and they do
0 likes@Hackerwacker lol true
0 likes@OBannon at first she kinda impressed me with her ability to lie but i realised shes a one trick pony she can only do one emotion and shes been doin it her whole life. also in general she doesnt seem very smart
1 like@defrosty you hit it anyway. I would just for the weirdness, fame and shes good looking but wouldnt fucking get serious with a trick like that though
0 likes@Hackerwacker epic troll thanks for the idea bro😈
6 likes@Hackerwacker i hope this is sarcasm
1 like@Hackerwacker What kind of mother doesn’t report their child missing. She should be in jail just for that.
0 likesThe jury panel found her not guilty. What else is there to do?
0 likes@Hackerwacker Why are you not convinced by the evidence?
0 likes@Evin The jury wasn't so why should I be? I believe in justice and the rule of law, and she was found INNOCENT
1 likeI approve this message I hope she never gets rest
2 likes@Sharon Herzog Let her work for u
0 likes@Hackerwacker So you think that way because the jury said so? I'm asking what YOU think about the evidence not what other people or the justice system thinks. Just really want to know your opinion
0 likes@Evin The evidence makes it obvious she is completely innocent and the police and media should apologize to her
1 like@HackerwackerHow does is make her look innocent? There was duct tape around the kid's head, she searched up "suffocation" and wrote that she was so happy about her decision in her diary around the time of death
2 likes@Hackerwacker oh so u also think OJ is innocent and should be given drinks?
0 likes@Hackerwacker You do know being aquited does not mean you're innocent right? It means there was not enough evidence to 100% prove that you did it. That's all it means.
1 like@dodgersfn Shepard I want to refute this but considering she moved in almost immediately with a detective that worked on her case (for the defense of course) in Florida, I can't refute that.
0 likesShe's probably writing a tell-all book about it, eck
0 likesYeah cause this Lady is insane. She Will do some sick shit again
0 likes@Hackerwacker Street justice will take care of her.
1 like@Nathan Foss Yeah Nathan Street Justice 🤓
1 likeThis monster will as we all will, answer to God
0 likes@Hackerwacker the evidence all points to her being guilty, she shouldn’t have walked
0 likes@Hackerwacker oj Simpson was also found innocent in court
0 likes@Hackerwacker No reply? Too bad. I was eager to hear why you think she was innocent based on the evidence
3 likesShe’s living her best life in Florida. Even goes to bars. Unfortunately she’s not scared to show her face.
1 like@basketballchick93 I'm glad to hear it. She deserves to live her best life free of fear and judgment. Too bad there are so many people like the trolls in here creating their fantasy world that she is guilty
1 like@Hackerwacker And O J is innocent too in your world
0 likes@Hackerwacker take an IQ test if you’re not trolling
2 likesRead again! Hackwacker isn't a person, guys, it's AI. It doesn't reason or feel, it has been programmed...
1 likeDon’t worry guys. There is no way that the person who started all the arguments in the comments actually believes what he/she is saying. It’s probably a troll
0 likes@Y V D Merwe ur weird
0 likesfunny how after getting a drink spilled on her she called the cops immediately but thinks she can "handle it herself" when her CHILD goes missing :/
2 likes@weapse Thankfully she had the bravery to call the police after that man assulted her by throwing his drink at her. They were probably a crazy conspiracy theorists like yourself who might have followed her home and hurt her because they were fooled by the malicious and evil prosecution
1 likeDon’t worry, she gets drinks thrown in her face regularly according to a police report she made lol
1 likeLast time I checked, she was happily married and was expected a child and is running a very lucrative small business .
0 likes@Hackerwacker are you serious??
0 likes@Hackerwacker please be sarcasm oh my god
0 likesShe literally says “I can’t even put it into words how glad I am that she’s HAD both of you” then she caught herself and says “And that she STILL HAS both of you”
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Exactly! Thats what i was thinking
67 likesI think "that she still has both of you" is the condemning part because the defense's argument was that the girl had actually died on the first day.
90 likesI was reading the comment right when I was listening to the video and I was like, “ I haven’t got to that part yet” then when I’m almost done reading it I heard all of it on the video, I was like,” Nope I’m at that part🤣🤣😂🤣😂”
33 likesSus
5 likes@Skip PassoverInteresting!
1 likeThat’s normal.
1 likeThat could definitely be a Freudian slip, but it could also be inferred that she subconsciously believed the child was gone forever and that the "still has" part was her trying to be encouraging. I don't think that's the case, but it's because of those kind of potential inferences why that slip is not considered a confession.
6 likes@johannnes paul I don’t feel like you came blame the parents, half the time they didn’t know what was going on. You can’t blame a second party for what a first party have done, there is plenty of single mums that bring up a child perfectly fine and healthy without murdering them. Without Casey telling them I don’t think they would have known, maybe just a fact of being oblivious. Casey is clearly an evil person. The only thing I don’t understand is why if they smelt dead body in a car removed the bin bag which was originally in it without checking?
7 likes@Kirstie oh whats that? you cant blame the parents? umm... isnt that exactly what i am talking about all the time?
0 likes@johannnes paul okay I see, you want to bring abortion into it. The difference between many women who get an abortion and this situation is they feel guilt even though they shouldn’t have. It was clear throughout this whole video Casey felt no remorse for killing her 3 year old conscious child. This child is old enough to feel and understand everything that went on clearly, a ball of cells is not able to understand or feel a thing. Abortion only very rarely happens after 24 weeks and this is in cases where giving birth to the child would cause damage to both the child and the mother. There are many situations where abortion is needed to prevent mental health collapses such as by someone who has been raped, someone who is not mentally prepared to hold a child in their stomach for 9 months etc. Calling them slutty is a vile thing to say, I don’t know if you are aware of the fact that protection is not 100% full proof and last time I checked it’s mostly men who are bothered about wearing a condom. It is not your body, you are not carrying a baby for 9 months. Are you a man? I don’t really think you should comment on the experiences of women when you have not experienced them. You are basically saying having sex consents to pregnancy yet you wouldn’t drive a car and agree to getting killed in an accident, you are aware of the risks in driving the car and proceed in spite of them. The same is for sex. If you think it’s easy for a mother to get an abortion you are clearly mistaken and need to educate yourself. There are many more situations than you can even comprehend. Abortion is healthcare and should be legalised, if you make it illegal it will still happen just in worse conditions even if you don’t agree with it. Putting more people at risk of mental health issues and the baby’s future. Please don’t compare abortion to a mother brutally murdering their child. I don’t understand how you can say it isn’t first degree murder, she clearly planned out very carefully to kill her child, she neglected her child and researched how to kill her which there is evidence for and then carried it out and then afterwards felt absolutely no remorse and lied about the events to protect her own ass. You’re telling me that wasn’t planned murder? Any other sane person would tell their family they were struggling and hand their child over or feel extremely guilty after killing their own child. This was no second degree murder.
16 likesWhoa!! I read your comment JUST as she was saying it! 😳. That sure brought it to life
2 likesYou can see her mom wipe her eyes after hearing that knowing her granddaughter possibly passed away
2 likeswhere in the video is that? I can't find it aaaa
0 likes@Brianna Coultrap around 29:57
2 likesYep yep. I noticed it too
0 likes@Kirstie there’s no point in trying to teach “johannnes paul,” all of their points seem to be fueled by rage and they’re trying to dismiss what’s happening by bringing in abortion laws and police brutality, it’s a lost cause :/
4 likes@Kirstie You’re 1,000% right. Don’t even waste your time responding to that person. They can barely spell correctly and make no sense. It’s most likely someone not in their right mind or a child.
2 likesThat's not past tense. It's present perfect, indicating something that started in the past, but continues into the present
0 likesyou guys don't know English, you don't use present perfect tense while talking about dead people, it would be "she had"
0 likesRight, I feel like her parent should’ve been asking what did she meant by “had”. They probably didn’t hear that or thought they misheard something given by how staticky the phones were.
0 likes@Kirstie her parents not ONLY LIED about her graduating, but said she "graduated with honors" then proceeded to throw her a party for it. What kind of parents do that????
0 likes@Skip Passover I think they call it lying. Freudian slips are mostly unintentional innuendos.
0 likes-Sincerely,
Dickslexic Boogaloo
Ah shit
1 likefor anyone wondering, it's at 29:54
0 likes@Mallorie Bowden same
0 likes@Apollo Starfall it's not present perfect. Because if it is then why Casey had to correct herself?
0 likes@кот Арсис it is present perfect. It wasn't really a correction, more of a clarification, because she probably realized that it sounded vague. I'm not saying she wasn't lying; just that what people are calling past tense wasn't.
0 likesShe has had both of you isn't strictly past tense so could still apply to someone who is still alive but definitely still sounds shady
0 likesCases like these are so scary, because Casey's defense team had reinforced the idea she has that she can get away with anything, they're enabling her sociopathy
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AND they collected a nice bundle of money--that was the sole motivator
46 likesExactly. Her whole life before this showed that by there being no consequences for bad behaviour and lying it turned her into a child killer. To lie about killing and get away with that too....hate to think of the next crazy thing she does.
15 likesDefense lawyers have a duty to provide the best defense that they can for their clients. I'll never criticize them for doing their jobs well.
16 likesPeople never understand that defense is exactly what Shitty people want. And the people who defend them don’t even know they’ve put themselves in the line of fire....enabling an abuser gives them a feeling of invincibility
0 likesshe also slept with her defence lawyer Jose Baez
2 likes@David Meehan My comment isn't about how well the defense attorney did his job, it was more about the effects of that, being that he has reinforced the idea that Casey can get away with anything. Casey is the subject.
3 likes@louiseleu I believe she's a psychopath
2 likesEverybody is innocent until proven guilty in the United States of America. Trump, Epstein, the Clintons, Casey, you, everybody. You should be blaming the prosecution for having such an easy case but presenting their facts in such a way that the defense was able to win and not the defense team who did what they were trained and payed to do. Sorry if you cant separate your emotions to understand that.
7 likes@earinsound and there obviously has to be a fair trial with a motivated defense team in any democratic state in order for it to work
3 likes@Ulto what won't happen is me doing what you think I should do. In my opinion, which I am entitled to, she is guilty, and I have respectfully commented accordingly. You may consider trying it.
0 likes@louiseleu its the opposite way with the two terms
0 likesTruth be told!!
0 likesAmen sister!
0 likes@David Meehan idk about this. Did the lawyer come up with the defense that Casey was molested by her father at 8 years old or did Casey. You wouldn't criticize a lawyer for fabricating that defense to get a killer off the hook?
0 likeslouiseleu this comment scares the shit out of me, idk man I’m not saying I’m a heartless person but those psychopathic feelings sound really relevant to me. Ima work every second to not be this because this is just idek how to describe. Evil lingers in dark corners
0 likesPhumla Zaca and this is why nothing will ever change.
0 likesHaha Casey's case.
0 likesPsychopathy is a pop culture term at this point, it is not recognized in the medical field therefore one can't be diagnosed with psychopathy, you can however be diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder aka sociopathy. My point is that trying to differentiate between the terms psychopathy and sociopathy as if psychiatrists have agreed to a definition of the former is silly, professionals will tolerate the word being used by laymen to mean sociopathy or better yet aspd but to try and argue its something different is classic armchair criminology/psychology/whatever
0 likes@Antonleavesacomment wait is that a proven fact xD? Damn it just gets uglier and uglier
0 likesI still can’t believe that this woman is walking free. She is a sick individual.
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Cody Riall no worries the devil will get her ....,,
27 likes@Ellis Wright i respect all religions, was relgious at one point until studying deeply in college religion . But thats like praying and not acting. When people said they were praying for my daughter before she passed from covid at age 9, it made me a little upset. Not at religion so much as the people who prayed for my baby did nothing to comfort her. Never called. Never donated towards a vaccine so it wont happen to others, they all had an ideal. But only prayed for it to be fixed, instead of doing something like donate, help in their free time. No disrespect i dont mean to over analyze a kind comment like yours . But praying with action is better than just praying. The effects this virus has on children is horrible and life long CNS related issues are starting to become more clear through its harmful effects on dopamine. Pray, and do right. I have cancer in my gastrointestinal tract , and have few weeks left. I was always taught morals that i carry with me to this day.
38 likesFamily and friends are the most important thing. Doing anything to keep them safe is what should be done, no boundaries. If I hadn't been donating 90% of my paycheck to mental health, and other causes / working in soup kitchen without pay id have more time. And i make 60$ per hour. And even without donating my time/$ id still be in a bad place due to health insurance changes that happened overnight by 45. I have no regrets. Except for not going to see the things I've done working in a PMC most my life. Taking lives in the name of religion I didn't bealive in, it was a long contract to keep people safe from a tribal region pushing Christianity onto a smaller tribe through violence. Be good. Do whats right. Relize some humans should be 'liquidated' for the civilians and average human. I am out of it from chemotherapy. Stay safe
People think its.funny this is what is occuring. Or occured. Because this account is shared between a team on the floor i work (before remote work) most of videos are private, the cat ones. Games, children at park with parents are the co workers. I did the maths, litterally 98.6% is private videos. I wasnt aware it had uploads. Its just auto login for me on my work laptop. This is sad for many reasons. Most is it shows people don't take time to even read the about info, or ask they assume. I only comment now due to my emotional state and PTSD. When laying in a bed for so long with self pitty, something we all have done. You need to stimulate your brain or you go crazy. So i choose to comment. Start fundraisers, change my Will, do many things. Bealive me or not , i can really care less, i dont know you people messaging me and threatning me yada yada. Or the comments that take things at face value without simply asking. Goes right to 5.57 to the head messages. Which was kind of expected being YouTube and people thinking they are safe by commenting and wont have their addresses , and documentation exposed are wrong. The VPN most used is one that is a simple breech. I digress. Forget that, and remember just do the right thing. Relgious or not, this or that. Judt be smart. I understand most of the world are dumb (dumb and have issues, people who get enraged over comments they think are false need mental.help and thats not a dig, mental health is serious and if letters and words on a comment make you so mad as to threaten my life and tbe co workers whom use this account, your priorities are in the wrong place. Be good , good people and thanks for the love. I cried after reading many, sorry for not writing back individual.
@Olivia • Idle Hour • damn...
0 likesIdle Hour while I am very sorry for your loss, I find it odd that you carry some angst on you. Possibly anger? Maybe disappointment?
2 likesAs you said yourself, you were very busy and even regret not having more time. What if these people were busy? Dealing with their own issues? Didn’t have the time etc.
It is a little cold to pass judgement on people saying they should do more, when it is your preconceived notion this is what they should do to be in the “right”.
These people are praying and asking for help and healing to what they believe to be the highest power in all of existence and the universe. They are talking and pleading with the ultimate answer and what they believe is the whole meaning to our existence. This is the biggest influence in their life in terms of dealing with strife and grief and pain. It is the utmost final say in what comes to be and what effects your life and theirs.
I think looking down on that, and acting like this is meaningless (whether or not you think it is fully, or if it is meaningless in terms of it doing nothing) actually says more about how you feel rather than them. How you view prayer and what it’s effect is, does not reflect on what it means to those people and how important it is for them. We should never downplay it like that, or detract from it.
This is coming from somebody who does not pray, and is not very religious. I know how much it means to those people and the fact that they chose to place your family and their health in their prayers is quite a big deal.
I know you wish people could have done more or should have done more, but it’s always easy to see things that way after events have transpired. Obviously people can ALWAYS DO MORE, but expecting that from other people or assuming it should not be the standard. We never know the situation others are in.
With all that said, I hope your family finds peace and healing, and my heart goes out to you. Stay close to your loved ones around you. Stay strong and be strong for your family! Life can be so terrible, but there is always something to live for ❤️❤️
She’s daddy’s little princess. She can’t possibly be held responsible for her actions! You know that because any time a family member implied her guilt, she lashed out like a viper and then switches to sweet little 5 year old distracted by her pretty dolly.
5 likesShe’s not insane, she’s a can do no wrong little princess who has never been told no or held accountable. I hope her father knows he is why his granddaughter is dead. Mom is guilty too, but not as much as dad.
This makes me with The Punisher was real.
0 likes@onmy computer2020gal i respect what you said. Thank you.
1 likeFaith is great and all, but its denial in the end. I personally believe it is better to face these things as they are. Just my opinion.
2 likesWait , is this for real ?
0 likes@wristpain I mostly agree. She's young and I have some belief in rehabilitation, though it would take significant effort on her part that she probably wouldn't give. But otherwise, yes it's important to punish people within the one life we know for sure we have. Also, I know I may be in the minority and don't want to make this a religious discussion, but eternal hell is overkill for almost any crime.
0 likesThis case is also why I have mixed feelings about jury trials.
@Olivia • Idle Hour • I can't believe everyone replying to you actually believes your comment. Geez lol.
3 likesIdle Hour A LOT of people lose their faith when they go to College
1 like@onmy computer2020gal yes she got acquitted because they said that the evidence was tampered with
0 likes@NightHoundd yes
0 likesKernal Scott 2 you will not see me anywhere, cause I will take your eyes from my vision.
0 likesI’m the 1k like. 😎
0 likesyup
0 likes@Ellis Wright yep
0 likesHow is it even possible!?
0 likesonmy computer2020gal not only
0 likesFree- had more children.
@Olivia • Idle Hour • you play a lot of computer games for a dude who lost his kid to cancer and was just about to die himself. Not saying that's bad, I'm just amazed that someone be so surrounded by mortality and make a bunch of gaming videos for YouTube. Maybe I should get back into gaming?
0 likes@Olivia • Idle Hour • your supposed to do both, pray and actually physically help out
0 likes59:56 How can you be so certain?
0 likes@Olivia • Idle Hour • Dont respect what doesnt exists, educate people about it no matter how defensive they get. Human mind is beyond religion, there is nothing to support it, there is only decisions and consequences.
0 likesI still cannot believe people believe in religion and after life or god or satan> Its just a METAPHOR for this world we have and we exist in corrupt hell. Human mind is beyond religion...so why is most of our spicies still so simple to buy into these fairy tales. Those who hold speeches, write books that tell you how to live and preach are the sickest and most corrupt.
1 like@Toby Maguire what? It is the truth of the situation. You don't know a thing about me. Disgusting...
0 likes@michael hall this account is shared. If you read the about. I used it 7 times making comments and haven't uploaded a video. Thats my co workers , its a company in team account 99% of videos are private. The cat ones and the games are not. This has been established many times to many forums asking about KJP. Morals.
1 like@Jessica White yes. Im in agreement.
0 likes@onmy computer2020gal thanks. I hope so. I was relgious, i studied all forms of it. My main point got.more skewed and you kind of got it.
0 likesIn a nutshell.
You can loose it all in a day. Faith helps, and its okay bot to have it in the "socially accept way" i know more people aho go to church that we are horrible people than people who just do the right thing and help others if they have the means.
At the end of the day we all will be gone , passed on . Keep your ideology and belifes strong. But NEVER let it effect hos you are morally. Or treat others. Thank you. Your comment made me tear up
@Gaming for fun i dont respect what doesnt exist, i don't direspect it either. I respect the fact that relgious belifes had a major impact on the world we live in. Good or bad.
0 likesThe main point. To stop a relgious back and forth cause its like gun rights in the states. Its a debate that wont end with everyone happy.
I respect people who are good. Going to Church praying isnt bad. But if you do that and then curb stomp Joey for oweing a schlock a few hundred grand you.bet on a horse then praying "sorry, I'll do my ten hail Marys" after confession for what i did. Doesnt make that man good. I am. Very very not well sorry. Typing is next to impossible with my cancer spreading after 1 month from total.remission. Be well. Do whats right. Much love to Human's
Idle Hour People who go through all that don't sit on YouTube writing comments about it and uploading PS4 gameplay vids lol. What was your daughters name? Or like one piece of evidence that any of that happened? lol
0 likesJury: So, Casey. You have killed your child, misled the police, lied, partied on your child's decomposing body. You're free to go.
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That’s Jose baez for ya 😂
60 likesShe also ate Coleslaw.
307 likes@Robert Cerat lmaooo
14 likesHey der kitty 🐈
7 likes@Robert Cerat and grits
10 likesYou know how many innocent people have had the death sentence? This was a lawyer that showed exactly how all cases need to be treated if you don't have concrete evidence your wasting time and resources. I mean it's clear to me she did it but you can't allow socialism to dictate individualized results.
66 likesRight? It’s disgusting I still don’t understand how she wasn’t found guilty.
93 likes@Twizted "I mean it's clear to me she did it" what? she killed her kid because she wanted to party, again. EVEN THOUGH HER PARENTS WERE WILLING TO TAKE THE KID!!!
49 likes@Rizky 223 this is not the usual "oh she's not behaving right!". She is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, atleast in my opinion.
24 likeswelcome to usa justice system
15 likesHelps being beautiful
4 likes@Twizted wait what does socialism have to do with this besides provide the taxpayer funded state prosecution jury judge cops courthouse and literally everything except the private defense attorney
46 likesThe lawyer explained everything with reasonable doubt and hail Maryed the jury with emotional appeals, the family still owes him money.
3 likes@Rachel B there you are
10 likesisnt the americain system supposed to be "guilty until proven innocent" ? what element prouve she was innocent ?
5 likes@Obamain POtin no
4 likes@Twizted Socialism? Really? People need to learn what some terms means. It's 2021.
31 likes@Obamain POtin it’s actually the opposite?
6 likes@Obamain POtin Every defendant, in criminal trials, is presumed innocent until proven guilty. If the state does not prove, above and beyond every reasonable doubt, that the defendant is guilty, then the jury is supposed to give a not guilty verdict.
11 likesI do not think the state proved guilt (beyond every reasonable doubt) in this case.
I'd rather be carried by 6 than judged by 12.
2 likesNo evidence that she killed her daughter
2 likesThis is the best argument against trial by jury I have ever seen
3 likes@Sam Taaghol MaximilliusMax fan about to talk about politics
0 likesI guess abortion of a 3 year old is fine.
3 likesLord I hate this.
@Twizted Yeah you can't allow worker controlled means of production to dictate individualized results.
7 likes@Rachel B youre right. Bc OJ Simpson was white.. that damn white privilege. Smh
15 likes@DntTalkToMe does that mean that she’s innocent?
0 likesAnd yet male priveledge is the problem right? Lmfao
2 likes@matteo cusumano Personally I think she's responsible in some way. I believe she accidentally overdosed and she hid the body. But it's innocent till proven guilty in a court of law and they couldn't prove that. And honestly its a great example of how our legal system works and it's a good thing she wasn't jailed. Because they couldn't prove she did if she got jailed that means were jailing people based on just how a jury feels and not with actual evidence and that's bad. Better one guilty person walks than 100 innocent people get jailed.
5 likes@Higai what is a maximillius max?
0 likesPretty much sums it up
0 likes@Junk Bucket OJ, and what’s your alternative?
1 likeThat’s Florida🤷♂️
0 likesI read an article about her getting into a fight with another woman over a boyfriend. Casey got water spilled on her lap and called the cops wanting it on record. I could be remembering it wrong though.
0 likes@Twizted people have died for way less. This is just bureaucracy where technicalities trump over what they really know happened.
3 likes@Twizted wth has socialism to do with that? Americans seem to have a very strange view of socialism.
4 likes#Privilege
0 likes@Junk Bucket Trial by a judge actually leads to less convictions but we don't talk about that.
2 likesTurns out when someone who knows the law decides whether you're innocent or guilty, a lot less bullshit passes through.
@Twizted You know how many guilty people have gotten away for free?
1 like@Twizted What the...that isnt socialism, that's just the justice system not working right. That happens everywhere
2 likes@Twizted Just how many innocents were awarded capital punishments?? So curious, since you seemed pretty confident on the exact number.
0 likesThat's the huge problem when a jury (random people) gives a verdict instead of a judge. Casey, O J Simpson and so on. I really hope they will change this trial approach.
0 likes@Heisenberg 1238 i know that its the same in france but i was thinking it was the opposit in the USA
0 likesNah she guilty
0 likesHer parents paid somebody...lots o polished knobs on that case for sure
1 like@Twizted Where did socialism get into this conversation?
2 likes@Sam Taaghol "socialism is when guilty people go to jail"
2 likesI wish I could find her and the Jury
0 likes@Franklin Ajayi 😕
0 likes@Gbasire YTP let's stop pretending and be adults. Everyone here knows if she was a single black mother this would have been a open and shut case. Please let's just stop pretending.
3 likes@Rachel B then OJ had white Privilege as well.
0 likes@Rizky 223 bro we gon forget about the WHOKE NOTEBOOK SAYING IM GLAD I CAN LIVE A NORMAL LIFE ADMITTING THAT SHE DID WHAT SHE DID TO PARTY
2 likes@Rachel B 😂😂 it’s going to be funny when you grow up and realize all the bs they feed you isnt the truth
0 likes@Rachel B hit the nail in the head
0 likesWhat a terrible injustice for that poor child
0 likes@Rachel B not white privilege, but white women privilege.
0 likesYea that’s cus she was innocent
0 likesVideo finishes Wait! What?? Where's the rest of it?
1 likeWhy did they not mention the car’s odor. Damn they found the family car SMEALING, why no fingerprints? Were taken or anything like that. And her boyfriend? I think the investigators just did a shitty job.
1 likeLmao, I was even gonna mention this case as much alike O.J Simpson’ s case. And surprise surprise, she actually dates someone related to that case nowdays. It just feels stupid how the media and their Voltaires fucks everything up, in any case where a child gets hurt the parents would at least be blamed for mistreatment. There’s a huge difference between drowning and suffocating, soooo much stuff autopsy could have pointed out...
1 like@Rattled she's a white woman
2 likes@Twizted what? The girl lied her daughter being kidnapped lol and there were several evidences she killed her daughter
1 likeshe was not found guilty. millions of dollars total were wasted on this case, tons of hours spent by many experts and she was not found guilty. still we have our youtube experts who are so smart and they know better xD you're as silly as people sending death threats to her family
0 likesThis is why I dropped out of law school, I would have lost my mind had I been in the prosecutor's place. They couldn't have got her on even obstruction of justice? Honestly how was the presence of generous amounts of duct tape overlooked? You don't tape the face of a drowning victim. That is reserved for the living. Murder of the first degree obviously.
4 likes@Hmaa Kawlni What number of innocent executions are okay with you?
0 likes"Uhh actually only 31 innocent people have been executed hehe"
@Sam Taaghol I think he meant it maybe the evidence wasn't hundred percent there was doubt and that's just how it works. And yeah I can't stand socialists but this has nothing to do with economic system LOL
0 likesShe is definitely guilty unfortunately circumstantial evidence isn't enough to convict, there is no solid concrete evidence that she killed her kid. DNA, fingerprints, or otherwise.
2 likesThis is by far one of the most frustrating cases I've ever heard of. There is so much circumstantial evidence in this case but there wasn't a smoking gun.
We can only hope karma will get her, since the court didn't.
I don’t see any reasonable doubt. People have been found guilty with less evidence.
0 likes@Twiztedno concrete evidence? 😂
0 likesImagine being a defence attorney
1 likeCasey showing no remorse toward her own child's loss is already a big red flag right there. And what kind of parents would leave their own kids for more than A DAY? I would def call 9-1-1 emergency right away if I haven't seen my child for more than an hour at home. I'm speechless. Damn lady.
0 likesDet Allen Turned the tables with stopping her bs by making her confront the question.
0 likesI promise you this is the worse of all the 'Caseys' out there. I will never forget the day she was found "not guilty"...
0 likesAny mother would turn into a grieving wreck upon disappearance her child. This mother didn’t and in my opinion it speaks volumes. It’s like she lost a handbag.
0 likesThe fact that she’s just a free woman roaming the streets and living her life doesn’t sit right with me
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It's actually worse than that. She's got a little entourage that she tours the bars of Orlando and Tampa with.
145 likesI’m only 9 minutes in but wait, they let this woman go free?
240 likes@James Herer tf 😭😭
9 likes@Nick Maxwell yes, that's our (US here) wonderful justice system for you.
67 likesThe right mindset, the right family, the right backup and LEGAL TEAM. You can walk away from any crime in the OH SAY CAN YOU SEE
120 likes@Nick Maxwell believe it or not. You can't make this.shit up
12 likes@The PJ Experience you can't legally kill a 3 year old child
44 likes@The PJ Experience loool
2 likes@The PJ Experience Caylee stopped being 'HER' baby the moment she was birthed into the world. At THAT moment, Caylee became a human being with the right to live.
41 likes@The PJ Experience edgelord alert 🚨🚨
7 likes@The PJ Experience what are you saying…
2 likesShe hides, that’s why no one has given her the justice she deserves yet
4 likesShameful
2 likesUnfortunately if you Pay for a good legal defence team this can happen
9 likesShe just wanna get her groove on
3 likes@James Herer Fuck that! I wouldn't mind a little street justice in a case like this 😢
14 likesDude, so many people know her face. She will never live a normal life after killing her daughter and getting away with it. She will never forget what she did; no matter how much she tries to forget.
17 likes@James Herer I actually ran into her down by Hanson's Shoe Repair, which she's banned from btw, and people were heckling her and it made my day. Stay classy Orlando.
41 likesThis comment right here I agree @woof
1 like@frank castle that can go both ways really, in this oh so wonderful country of ours you can be convicted, sent to jail, then later found innocent and stay in jail.
7 likes@Nick Maxwell That's Florida for you, would never happen in NYC
1 like@Nick Maxwell yup shes just out and about. Partying like nothing happened. I thought for sure someone at a bar would have at least kicked her ass by now
11 likesShe needs punished asap. JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE.
3 likesAnyone who knows Casey Anthony's whereabouts please go pay her a visit and make her pay for her crime. She doesn't deserve any less.
8 likes@Woof holy shit! She’s free? Wtf?
1 like@Cyberwiccan no, Caylee was a human being with the right to live as soon as she was conceived, not when she was birthed.
1 like@Nick Maxwell Oh yeah, buckle up, you're gonna love it.
0 likesEvery time I think about it, I feel sick...
4 likes@Nick Maxwell yes....
0 likesWhat?!?!?!
0 likesI read up on this case the jury did not want to really give her the not guilty but the evidence was not enough to convict her so I don’t blame anyone but the system
0 likes@CameronPlaysTrumpet oh no...here we go again
6 likes@Israel Centeno the defense basically drilled into them "pics or it didn't happen" without saying it. Without something showing her in action there will always be room for doubt, no matter how small. I don't think he ever mentioned "beyond REASONABLE doubt". He only said "any doubt". I feel like there was definitely enough evidence to convict. Looks up suffocation in the morning, leaves in the afternoon, child found with tape over breathing holes, death ruled homicide, video shows Caylee missing that evening from video store, defense admits she was dead that day by drowning in family pool...but they never returned home for that to be possible, car was impounded for unknown reason (to us at least) and trunk smelled of decomposing body, her ENTIRE story is fabricated.
5 likes@Woof whaaaaaaat! I thought she had got 25+
3 likesIt doesn't with anybody
1 likeJust wait… her time is coming
6 likes14:38 - 14:58
0 likesSpoiler
0 likesAnd pregnant again
0 likes@Amanda Jane WHAAAAT???
3 likesShe just opens her mouth and shit comes out and she isn't even ashamed. Unbelievable.
1 like@A W Only 2 reasons the jury acquiitted, given the evidence. First, Cindy Anthony ended up trying to help Casey when Cindy testified. She claimed SHE had been doing computer searches on chloroform ("I meant chlorophyll") and THEN let her daughter's lawyer imply that her husband George could have accidentally let Caley drown AND OR that he sexually molested Casey. That was Unforgivably low behavior on Casey's part (and irrelevant!) It was terrible judgement and disloyalty on Cindy's part.
3 likesI don't know how George Anthony stayed with his wife, but reportedly he does not speak to Casey.
The only other reason I can think of for acquittal is because the jury wasn't intelligent enough to make logical inferences, and got confused by the BS of the defense attorney Jose Baez (a terrible trial lawyer who stumbled and fell into an acquittal and accepted sex from Casey as payment for services).
Then the media saw him as an expert and he was on every network until his true colors showed.
Now he's hiding somewhere.
@James Herer 🥵🤮
0 likes@valentini aholelei she didnt get SHIT. Except timed served
0 likesdamn she is smart, she was always asking for that lawyer....
0 likes@James Herer wait how do you know?
0 likesImo there should be atleast a minimum competency requirement to be a jury. Or abolish it alltogether.
2 likesThe thing is where is the forensic evidence any cctv evidence witness of her going to or from where the body was found etc???
1 likeAnyone in the right mind knows she did it, if you have kids you will no if they are missing for more than 20 min your going out ur mind trying to find then thinking the worst, never mind them missing for weeks.
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0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
She's as guilty as OJ and they both walked free. What a travesty of justice. One way or another they will pay for their atrocities. May they burn & rot in hell for all eternity.
2 likesShes good looking and people get influenced by the "halo effect"
1 likeIf it makes you feel better she probably can’t get a job anywhere, people would see her name and immediately know who she is. In the US that means a very torturous and agonizing life
2 likes@Crunchy Mccruncherson i bet she doesnt even go anywhere,probably just sits home and her parents get her everything
0 likesThe detectives were literally treating her as if she’s this princess and casually talking about her missing daughter
2 likes@sandorr clegane she just did and I am worried.
0 likes@A W well said. Everyone failed poor Caylee
0 likes@Crunchy Mccruncherson but alas i hear she is working for a private investigator. True? I would not doubt it.
0 likes@Dizzy How do we reopen the investigation or go about getting her locked up or punished she deserves to suffer she needs to suffer for her sins
0 likesShe killed her freaking daughter man I CANNOT STAND that this monster is free walking in our streets.
1 like@Antithesis probably not a care in the world . its unrealistic
0 likes@Denise Pleines Rubbish 🤬
0 likesI'm not mad at you this whole thing infuriates me so much my soul is screeching in rage
0 likes@Antithesis yes indeed! I cried for the rest of the day after the jury let her go free. Idiocracy in full swing
0 likes@Denise Pleines Any chance a mob will find her one day?
1 like@Antithesis let us hope . It doesn't hurt to dream 😉
0 likes@S AC meanwhile there are some innocent people locked up
0 likes@Nonresponder01 fabricated from beginning to end. Liar liar pants on fire👖🔥
0 likes@Denise Pleines Justice extends above law. I'm not planning to attack her physically BUUUT I would gladly tell her how terrible she is to her face and in person and I'd love a hate mob to realize she's still out there and take things into their own hands. Eye for an eye.
1 like@xZanexX missing...for 30 DAYS!!!! There are many reasons why I think she is guilty. But that one screams she didn't give a shit, seems like nobody gave a shit
0 likesLike, say, law enforcement...
I feel so sad for this little girl and her poor grandparents. How the hell did Casey end up like this :/
0 likes"I hope you learned your lesson kids: in the real world, lying WILL get you out of trouble!"
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Also when faced with adult responsibilities or a life of pleasure seeking always choose the latter even if it means slaughtering your child.
0 likesI havent watched the whole video yet but just at that 911 call...casey sounds wayyyy too calm like theres no worry or concern in her voice..
0 likesSo sad that Caylee looked like a mini-Cindy, her Grandmother. I feel saddest for the Grandparents. Casey doesn't seem to care.
0 likesDamn. When she corrected herself from “had” to “and still has you”, her mother dropped tears. She knew
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When was that ... I missed it
14 likes@theeggtimer tic tic 32:37
105 likesYea, my stomach sunk during that part. Shesh.
47 likesHoly crap. I missed that.
34 likesDid they use that in the trial?
That's so telling.
I noticed this too .. straight away.
21 likesSaw that, WOW!
9 likesYeah, my wife caught that immediately.
33 likesSure. Or she completely believed her and simply thought it heartbreaking that her daughter "started to lose hope". Or a thousand other scenarios.
31 likesVery good find. Wish Mr Criminal Psychology found it and pointed it out, but there are SO many little things in these and he pointed out 99.99% of them anyways so not trying to throw shade on him. One of the best Youtube channels. Should be archived for the next 300 years.
24 likesTheir parents absolutely knew. Didn't want to lose their daughter on top of their granddaughter. It's despicable and poor Caylee never received justice.
63 likes@S Cassi Pfft
5 likesThat is not what she says. What she says is:
38 likes"I can't even put into words how glad I am that she's had both of you."
This does not imply that she no longer has both of them, nor that she is dead. That's not what "she has had" means. For example I could say that Brad Pitt has had great success in films, but that doesn't imply his success is over.
@Shift8YawnsShift8 - Edited-.
8 likesWatched that bit a few times and without the favour of retrospect, it could be construde as being genuine. I agree with what you said.
On the other hand she could've realised midway through the first "she's had both of you" that she thinks the immediate next bit to add on, but on the whole what you said could be argued, correct.
John C —— When you raise an absolute pathological liar you know at the point when she gets pregnant that even in the very best case the granddaughter will have live a shit life because of her absent mother. Actually, I’m wrong. You know, not because she is a pathological liar, but because she only seems to care about her own joy in life and is an irresponsible piece of shit without much empathy for others. Not trying to say she is a monster; I am sure her own upbringing and/or genes, environment etc. resulted in her being like this.
4 likescaught that too, disgusting.
5 likesThen begins to talk about eating coleslaw wtf 😂
26 likesAnd they ignored that shit just like they ignored her skipping school and hiding her whole pregnancy
28 likesYeah that was a big slip-up that should've been studied more thoroughly
2 likes@ko sco Nah... something like that would never be admissible as evidence of anything, really. It's the kind of thing we as individuals certainly use a lot, and I'd say you "know it when you see it", but it's also impossible to tell for certain how obvious such a reaction as that from her mom would be if not for us already knowing the outcome to this entire case ahead of time. We see a reaction like that and we superimpose what we already know and draw the conclusion that her mom knowingly came to a realization that matches what we all know they're gonna conclusively find out soon enough. And while I have no doubt that, even if we DIDN'T know the outcome to this case already, many people, perhaps even the majority of us, might very well reach the same conclusion about her mom's reaction...
4 likes...but in the end, it's just not empirical in any sense. Since all anyone can do is GUESS what's going on in her mom's head when she starts crying - even if her mom, say, took the stand against Casey and admitted as much that at that moment she "knew" what her daughter's Freudian slip truly meant, even a defense attorney whose entire law education consisted of watching reruns of Matlock and Harvey Birdman while playing Phoenix Wright games on his DS would call out "Objection!!" (lol especially if he played Phoenix Wright games :P) due to such a claim being speculative and innuendo.
Realistically, even if Casey was 100% honest all the way and this actually HAD BEEN just a case of a missing little girl with a legitimately worried-sick mother instead of the sociopath trying for an Oscar we see here, it's still COMPLETELY feasible that, under all the stress and exhaustion and panic of her body being in a sub-variety of fight-or-flight for days to weeks on at a time, she STILL could've misspoken and worded her sentence in such an unsettling way - - both Casey's instance, as well as the hypothetical one I just described, are caused by the same overall symptom: a lack of forethought being put into what was being said - the difference is just what's causing that lack of forethought... one is due to true emotional exhaustion over being in a state of constant terror and anxiety from trying to find a missing child, while the other is due to trying (and failing) to simultaneously juggle multiple lesser lies meant to cover up one REALLY GARGANTUAN lie while also trying to act afraid and anxious over finding her daughter.
The latter task in particular, Casey is finding it especially hard to convincingly pull off since in the back of her mind she KNOWS all there is to find is something she doesn't want anyone to see, and doesn't wanna see or think about ever again, herself.
Frankly, I think Casey knows good and well that her goose is cooked and that she's on borrowed time, here... she can't be stupid enough to ACTUALLY still think at this point that this is all just gonna "go away" - in fact, I'd even bet that the news of her daughter's face being featured on the cover of People even sent her into a bit of a mental tailspin of panic, because then there's NO CHANCE IN HELL of her getting outta this without having to either come clean to everyone (the favorable option, if she wants to appear to have ANY semblance of a heart or spine left...), or be ruthlessly exposed in front of the entire goddamn NATION as an awful, heartless mother and pathologically lying, selfish bottom-feeding worm of a human being..
"Glad I am that she's had both of you," then kind of aggressively reassures "AND that she still HAS both of you." It's like she slipped up forsure. I'm enjoying your replies guys. Shift8, you can say that. But this one is a weird one. It could mean different things to different people. We could say she was nervous, tired, emotionally exhausted. Yet she doesn't show much emotion towards her daughter's murder. Other people show more emotion than her, which leads me to believe in this little moment, she slipped up with the had and has. Maybe if she was a bit worried about Caylee instead of herself, she could've passed off as genuine. Straight psychopath
3 likesI said the exact same thing.
9 likesShe corrected herself quickly.
@ko sco I agree, and I do think she added that next sentence because it could be misconstrued. Of course, her not talking about her daughter in the past tense doesn't mean anything. The narrator was right to not point it out as a smoking gun.
5 likesyeah man. but by the end of the call she seems back in denial. it's messed up.
2 likes@S CassiShe lives in palm beach with her boyfriend. She did an interview where she said she is happy and sleeps pretty well at night soooooo.......
3 likes@jax l So no conscience. She has compartmentalized it. Maybe when she's old when people tend to think of regrets she will
4 likesManufactured parsonality - half of women in America
2 likesThe parents knew right from when they found the car and just hoping it wasn't true. In the first phone call she was mad at her mum that the only reason she was arrested was because of her checking up on her story. Guess that behaviour from her mum would've been a break away from how their relationship works...she says her story and they just accept it.
1 like@sanchez831.x4 what did the dad do to the daughter?
4 likes“Caylee’s been so lucky... Caylee is so lucky” and “had” to “has”... she does it twice. I’m sure the parents caught that. They were fishing for information.
1 like@Shift8YawnsShift8 verb
2 likespast tense: had; past participle: had
used with a past participle to form the perfect, pluperfect, and future perfect tenses, and the conditional mood.
You are using an incorrect comparison. Your example says describes past tense of film. It is a finite period. It does not mean that Brad Pitt has success in future films.
It's incredible how long Casey was able to keep the present tense and syntax up as long as she did. Hardened criminals who are used to police interrogations have difficulty doing that.
3 likes@Jason Friendthe phrase "she has had" colloquially does not mean the same as "she had". They are categorically different. "she has had" implies a certain condition could be over or ongoing, but only references it occuring in the past. It's the condition ending, not the existence of the subject. Meanwhile, "she had" implies the subject of the sentence now ceases to exist.
9 likesShe has had X but now condition X has an unknown future.
She had X but now she is no longer.
The correction to "still has" in the next sentence is actually more telling and damming IMO. It's an over compensation.
Boy I'm going to have a lot of edits to this comment... but at 15:00
1 like"Is there any reason why the nanny would take caylee?"
"Just that she talked about how good of a daughter she was and how much she loved her"
Had she not made up the other lies about juliette who does not exist.... that would have been a cold, and very fitting statement to take the heat off of herself... just chilling listening to that though process
Oh shit!!! YEP she was already speaking in past tense!! Smh
2 likes@MISSKAYKAY
1 likeShe's a true inspiration. One would be smart to learn from her
@MISSKAYKAY That is skilled? She's a novice manipulator/liar at best. She has elementary grade level excuses.
4 likes@sanchez831.x4 proof he ever did that?
1 like@Arphemius She still believes her. Watch the last interview that George and Cindy did. Still defending her. George knows what his daughter is. He says nothing will ever change as far as his feelings towards her until she tells the truth about what happened to Caylee.
2 likes@JustTrollinAlong Yep. He knows as does George that she killed her daughter. Cindy, on the other hand, is in denial still. Some things just can't be ignored and all the lies that Casey told should be really obvious to her.
1 likeI know as a mother you don't want to believe that your child could do something so disgusting but her actions prove a different story
@sanchez831.x4 I don't believe for a minute that her father molested her. Out of the million lies Casey told, you believe that one? She was in a fight for her life at that trial. It was a death penalty case. Her and her skilled attorney were desperate. No way I don't believe he did
3 likes@MISSKAYKAY yeah I saw later.. yeah that lawyer looks like a sick person making up lies to advert the attention off of the baby
3 likes@Hi Ya so elementary level that she got away with murdering her child.
1 like@MISSKAYKAY That says more about justice system than her level of "skill" lying. She practically confessed and jury found reasonable doubt!
1 like@Hi Well whatever you want to call it she had gotten pretty good at manipulating her way through life and getting away with her lies. Her parents aren't the only ones who fell for her stories. People that are habitual liars get pretty good at lying.
2 likes@Jason Friend sorry but you have no clue what you're talking about, you just googled the word "had" ...
2 likes@Nemopolymer Lol
1 likeSo why not say something at that moment smh they were part of the problem
1 like30:00 the other timestamp is wrong
8 likes@MISSKAYKAY Lee is her brother
0 likes@Nat Loves God Yes I know that.??
0 likesAs a couple others pointed out, that's not past tense. It's present perfect, indicating something that started in the past, but continues into the present
1 likeStill can’t believe she was found not guilty ridiculous
2 likesJuliette Lewis exists as an ACTRESS. Killer Kasey must've been watching one of her movies.
1 likeWell... what if Casey is ACTUALLY innocent?
0 likesThen she has lost years of her life in prison without crime, followed by being condemned by a part of society (just look at the comment section here) for being a murderous psychopath, despite being innocent.
That must be heart-breaking.
(of course, if she IS guilty, then all the condemnation she gets is 100% justified)
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Well, she is not
1 likeThe way she has the investigator on the ropes and in defensive mode. Not sure I’ve ever seen that before in the 1,000’s of hours if interrogations I’ve watched. She’s an absolute pathological liar.
0 likesShe deadass said that she met the "nanny" through Jeffree and that she watched his son when the man openly admitted on the stand that he doesn't even have kids. How does that not instantly just trash any of her credibility? She should have fried.
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100%. Literally that alone is SUCH an absurd lie that I would think she is incapable of being honest, and is VERY capable of making shit up.
104 likesI agree.
3 likesThere was more in play that what I am going to say - but basically, no one wants to believe that a woman could do something so horrible. If a man, a father, was accused and did and said what Anthony did, there would be ZERO sympathy for him. He would have received the death penalty for sure. We have a massive problem in the West with not holding women accountable.
91 likesWhat if Jeffree was lying and has children?
1 like@June Mooney I don’t know much about these things but if the prosecutor got him up there as a witness he should know the facts and is simply just presenting them to the jury/judge, right?
4 likes@Adam Estrada isn’t the whole point that it’s 90% tell you then it’s within reasonable doubt that she didn’t do it? I think she technically could’ve gotten away with the 1st Degree because you have to prove intent. But with the manslaughter she surely should’ve been guilty based off of evidence alone.
2 likesRegardless the defendant's lawyer spun all the lies she told as for her too look like she was covering up an accident that happened which she was embarrassed to reveal. Which in turn makes sense to the jury because even though evidence was revealed nothing can be tied to her daughter being murdered by her. Only thing left for the defendant was to disregard her motive which was weakly supported by her bad character and choices in life . Which can easily be dissemed as opionated observations. This is an obserdly easy case for the lawyers people getaway with way worse situations. And all they had to do was prove the case was motivated by emtions against the defendant because of lack of emtions she showed toward her daughter being missing or dead. The Funny thing is if something is clearly obvious the court system will not be able to conclude unless there are facts. There where details that where missing and the defendants team capitalized on that.
5 likes@Adam Estrada By conjecture sure. But it's all he said she said. He could have told her about his friend who was a child sitter as part of a ploy to help his friend kidnap another person's child. It's even getting to the point where video evidence isn't admissable in court due to the ease of access regarding video editing programs or even deep fakes.
0 likesI know, right??? The way JCS presents this here, is perfect. He tells enough of her story to get us familiar, the pauses with the "_____, does not exist." Regarding a few people. Even the 911 call when Casey got on the phone. Baez should be disbarred and possibly charged. And Casey walking free is beyond infuriating.
3 likes@JH B Especially when they murder theyre daughters it’s actually mind boggling and how parents can just sit there and believe even though everything they heard was a complete lie, I’m not sure if the whereabouts of the little girl were given as I was to upset to sit through this and watch her lie through her teeth and put on this fake innocent persona over the extremely clear heartless and deceiving one. The mother herself even said it smelt like a dead body in the car and told her literally the same exact lies she told the police this is truly such an infuriating hour and minutes so much so I couldn’t even sit through it just skipped to the end for the usual happy endings on this channel but this is very upsetting.
1 like29:46 when the mother realizes her daughter is using the past tense.....
3 likes@Ahmed W her life choices were in serious conflict though. As a parent, there is no more partying. It was blatantly obvious what was going thru her head if you are a parent. I think it's a sign of the times. 8/10 jury was probably not a parent and wouldn't have understood what was going thru her head.
1 like@Shy RoseI noticed that too. I mean at this point, what she’s doing is feeding them with positive attributes so not to question her more of her daughter’s whereabout but she slipped when she said that her daughter was lucky and repeatedly said the same thing but a correction. She’s a monster.
3 likes@Adam Estrada I dont get tho if her trunk smelled of death whats up with the car
1 like@June Mooney would have been really easy to find that out just by record checking (i.e. birth records, claim of children on their tax refunds, investigation of house for a childs room/ pictures + more
0 likesIn 2019, there was a follow up interview with Casey Anthony and she said she still "has no idea" what happened. That just shoots her defense all to pieces and shows she's full of shit, because if I'm not mistaken, Baez's whole argument was that she knew her daughter drowned and tried to cover it up? So which is it? Does she not know what happened or did she know her daughter accidentally drowned?
1 likeBecause the jury got this one wrong sometimes jurors want to believe the alleged reasonable doubt which sounded even more bizarre and had no evidence to back it up yet they still went with that
0 likesWho puts duct tape on a dead child's mouth and nose and throw in swamp? If she was trying to hide the fact that girl died accidentally, why'd she do that?
2 likesAlso, isn't misleading a murder investigation intently is an offense of any kind?
And what up with the whole child abuse twist in court? She was with police, she was interrogated multiple times and she never brought up anything related to that? Also,even if whole she was abused in childhood was taken in, how come lying with fear in childhood when being abused compares with a mother intently lying about her child's death and laughing at officers on recording? If anything, she'd probably be more protective of her child.
I don't see any logic behind jury's thoughts about it.
Oh it did. But being a liar isn't proof of murder...
0 likes@EkG It's not that uncommon of a thing. A lot of children die due to being unsupervised and are then hidden due to fear of ramifications, they couldn't tie her directly to the cause of death. Tampering with a body sure, but that wasn't what they attempted to charge her with. If they had found the body much earlier and found evidence for cause of death being suffocation then maybe.
0 likesNobody gets away with anything!
0 likesSooner or later she will pay.
I do not feel sorry for her parents because they raised her.
I have a daughter and I know my girl's every move which of course she hates. Casey's parents should have corrected their daughter's behaviour, much, much earlier because they would have had some insight.
My daughter is now twenty-five and a computer programmer and very successful. If I had been a slack single mother - she would not have the achievements that she has.
It would have totally destroyed me to find that my child had deliberately and purposefully harmed someone. Who wants that on their conscience, forever?
The power of a mother is beyond powerful 🙌🏿 she said look up to me so I can see ur eyes
0 likesI hope the parents are not TOTALLY responsible for turning her into a psychopathic liar. All parents make mistakes.
0 likesJust as a reminder for anyone watching she is still alive and reports have been made that she is actually looking into have ANOTHER child sometime.
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1 likeThe made-up babysitter's name is "Zany". I think Casey knew xany a little too well if you know what I mean.
How the fuck does her attorney sleep at night KNOWING he helped a woman who killed her own daughter roam free. Absolutely despicable.
1 likeSomeone was either paid a lot of money, or the human race is stupider than I thought we already were. Wow. To think, I thought our race couldn't surprise me anymore with our stupidness.
0 likesHer lawyer seems like he'd pay a lot to get his way. He just gives me those vibes. RIP Caylee. You were way too young.
So your child accidentally drowns- and you decide to hide the body- ok but please tell me what was going on in your mind when you decided to put duct tape on their mouth and nose afterwards?!?! It's such a menacing action- especially supposing the child drowned! Only a psycho would tape up their kids face. No rational explanation for that except she was killed using duct tape.
0 likesShe's so guilty it makes me sick she wasn't convicted.
I can’t stand that woman and I can’t even finish watching this video bc of the fact that the jurors had the gall to find this narcissistic monster NOT GUILTY! 😡🤯😭😭! No justice for CAYLEE🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️😭🌸🌸❤️🔥🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
0 likesI don't know why this case is super hard for me to watch maybe it's because I have a daughter myself and just seeing a mom do what she did to me all know what she did it's just absolutely disgusting. And in the call that her mom need to 911 or the grandma excuse me the grandma says that the Casey Anthony admitted that the babysitter stole her like that sounds like the biggest lie ..I can't..how she is walking free I don't get
1 likeso disturbing her giggling in the interrogation room with the investigator as if shes just casually flirting with some man in a bar.
0 likesAnd that is one grand example of why the death penalty is wrong. That woman should be rotting in prison for killing her 2yearold but other people, that are not cold blooded murderers, that have feelings and understanding of their responsibility, couldn't send her to death because they weren't absolutely, 100% sure. If the death penalty was off, she would have been found guilty.
1 likeThe fact that Cindy still acts like she believes Casey and supports her is ALMOST as flabbergasting as the verdict. I blame her just as much as Casey. That’s where Casey learned her pathological lying from. They are both disgusting.
1 likeEverytime Casey mentioned the babysitter, I just thought of the South Park episode where a bunch of people who killed their kids got together against "some puertorican guy"
0 likesthese jurors should never be in a case that requires critical thinking
1 likeIt's so ridiculous that a pretty little white girl would get away with such a obvious crime and if anybody else on the planet did anything near what she did they would be in prison for life
0 likesI feel absolutely fucking terrible for her family. Casey has no remorse. Her parents, her brother, her damn best friend cares more then she ever will. Caylee would’ve been 15 now.
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What’s most telling is the reaction or lack thereof of her parents as the verdicts were being read.
62 likesHer parents raised her, though, and they had been enabling her lying, selfish behavior from day one. They greatly contributed to how her personality turned out, when they did shit like throwing her a graduation party to conceal the fact that she skipped school and didn't graduate.
126 likesObviously her parents didn't kill Caylee, but they sure as hell aren't innocent angels who did nothing to contribute to Casey turning out to be a monster. They most likely let her grow up living in a bubble where consequences were non-existent and lying had you get away with murder. That's how she turned out to be someone who's devoid of any responsibility and concern for others and will literally walk over dead bodies in the pursuit of her own selfish pleasure (I.e. her party girl lifestyle).
Correction : she would be 13
8 likesBut still this is just........
You must not be very familiar with this case. Her parents are enablers, so much so that her father basically accepted a defense that he sexually assaulted his daughter to deflect so she wouldnt be convicted of murder. I dont feel one bit of sympathy for her family. They created that monster. There was one victim in this case, and she was dead before any of this happened.
89 likes@the default 53:18 wasn't she born in 2005?
14 likes@the default Caylee was born on August 9th of 2005 so she would be 15 turning 16 in August.
13 likes@LC Newberrie thanks for correcting me people
2 likes@the default I wasn't trying to be rude. I had to look it up myself on Google 🤷♀️
2 likes@LC Newberrie no I wasn't trying to be rude, I actually had a different comment written
5 likes@the default Okay, I just didn't want you to think I was being rude lol.
1 like@Tony Sopranos busted phone prosecutors told them they were not allowed to show emotion or they wouldn’t be welcomed back to watch the trial
3 likesWoah. This video didn’t hit that hard until you said that. Caylee would be my age if she was alive
6 likesI was born the same year as her and when I heard it, that's really hit me
5 likes@Rainbow Franklin My jaw was just open the whole video, I am baffled this is real.
4 likesShe woul be my age, and that actually scares the shit out of me
2 likeswtf was the lying part about her dad
2 likesthe worst part about this is that i don't think all of this had any effect on Casey. it was just another one of her eloborate lies that she got away with and now she is free to do what she wants.
6 likesJust want to say in 19 hours this comm was here it got 1.6k likes, meaning at least 1.6k people saw this video in the last 19 hours for a video posted 9 months ago
6 likesDidn’t she lie under oath?? Like I thought that was a no no
1 like@Kyoyeou this shows the evolution of YouTube and how much time we spend
3 likes@Kyoyeou I assume everyone like me is being recommended this guys channel and this video has to be one of the most bizarre. Caylee should be the main topic of this whole thing not the spineless cruel mother. Also her family is ridiculous too. So nothing more except even after over a decade prayers for Caylee Anthony this was tragic and horrible.
3 likesshe would have been my age...
2 likes@Tony Sopranos busted phone they were actually told to refrain from showing any emotion about the event, because they were the grand parents, but also witnesses they were given a pass into the courtroom with the conditions they would be removed if they acted out, that’s why they lack emotion when they sentenced her.
2 likesshe would've been my age... jeez...
2 likesBruh thats my age and she looks exactly like me as a baby, i feel so sorry for her.
2 likes@bluhdii 😐 wow you got the whole squad laughing
2 likes@Bill Redenbocker she did spend in jail like 3 years awaiting trial. I'm sure they took it like time served
1 like@Florida Man exactly. And get mother raised her to be exactly like her: a textbook narcissist.
1 likefuck, that makes me feel worse about this considering I'm 15 also.
1 like@Bloodmorphed the attorney was like "it's simply not proven", but using common sense, all the evidence is beyond doubt convicting her
1 likeDamn Cayley and I could have been friends
1 likeI just hope casey doesn't have another kid😬
2 likesThe whole world knows she’s guilty and she knows the world knows it also
0 likesCasey switched down her tone when her parents called the second time, because an officer was watching.
1 likeMan if my kid was missing and I was facing jailtime for it. I would worry more about myself. Survival of the fittest kid we gotta scrap for our own. But for real though Casey Anothony legit got off on killing her kid and that is not right. We have not even tried to make the system better.
0 likesWell to be fair about this whole mess the lawyer has a point. Don't get me wrong, the fact that they painted the father as an abuser is an absolute disgrace, BUT they didn't have any proof that she killed her child.
2 likesYeah the whole story does look pretty bad for her and it's more than reasonable to assume that she did it, but we still have to prrof someones guilt. If we had to proof that someone is innocent we can go back to the middle ages since that's more like it
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But they didn’t need to prove that her dad abused her?
1 likeThat’s so stupid that they believed her story when she had been lying to detectives since day one.
These excuses may have held up 10 years ago, but in todays age this shit does not add up.
1 likeIt seems that her mother quite possibly committing perjury got her off. She testified to making those searches on child suffocation etc on the home PC... while she was also at work. Some feat.
1 likeHow in the actual hell did this monster walk free!??!!?!? Holy Lord, she's as sick & twisted as Chris Watts
0 likesJust goes to see, not everyone has to pay for murder. Even in beginning of this video you could see that ex-cop grand father suspected the outcome. Just my two opinion.
0 likesVery charismatic defense attorney. I don't understand how she had the funds to get him, or if it was just dumb luck at getting somebody incredible before their career took off.
0 likesThe fact that she is not in jail right now is unbelievable.
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If I were her, I would never be found or seen again and be in fear of my life for the rest of my life.
27 likesShe’s writing a book and making a movie lol
21 likes@Mary Poppins all the evidence.
24 likes@ollehkacb no confession and a great attorney.
20 likes@ollehkacb well actually most criminals confess before trial I heard.
6 likes@ollehkacb but whatever so I’m out
0 likesVery disturbing and disgusting
10 likesIf she would've pulled this in Korea or Japan, she would've gotten the death penalty.
18 likes@Cloud Strike Yeah because the japanese justice system practies a guilty until proven innocent system. With an over 99% conviction rate basically everyone who gets tried is found to be guilty.
13 likes@Mary Poppins well, thing is, when you say evidence, you mean circumstantial evidence, and a very incoherent declaration from her (that only proved she lied, but not that she did it). We all get the strong feeling she did it, that's clear, but to prove it before the law? well, you would need proof that it was her who asphyxiated and dropped kaylee at the swamp; and you are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around, so a strong gut feeling or common sense isn't enough in a court (and it shouldn't, even if it means this might happen).
3 likesNot unbelievable, a direct and inevitable consequence of the practice of jury trial. When all you have to do is manipulate a bunch of laypeople with no knowledge or understanding of the legal system, or experience on how to detect lies and attempts of manipulation, the side whose lawyer is the better manipulator wins. That's why murderers who would never be let off the hook by professionals walk free, and why innocent people are convicted with no evidence, it all comes down to whose lawyer lies better
5 likesRight! She wasn’t even charged with interfering with an investigation for straight up leading them on a wild goose chase?!
9 likes@Crazy Mai circumstantial evidence is evidence. Which would mean common sense is strong enough in court because the jury is allowed to use that when deliberating. So this jury really failed..
5 likesShe also lives with her lawyer. Last i heard they are a happy couple. Incredible
3 likesThe fact she’s not in PRISON on DEATH ROW is pissing me off
1 likeWhat's really irritating is the fact her lawyers know that she's guilty, yet still don't give a shit
2 likes@ollehkacb you cant really blame the attorney, they were just doing their job, although what he said was pretty shitty and hypocritical
0 likesa white woman. that's why.
1 like@Crazy Mai all evidence is circunstancial, wtf?
0 likesThey admitted she drowned in a pool, but then found her body in a swap? What the actual fuck? Just that alone should have been a huge clue of guilt..
1 likeViewers , like me could undoubtedly say Casey killed her daughter to have her worldy freedom... She is guilty... May Caylee be in heaven now with God Almighty..
0 likesI think it’s sad that no one’s rearranged her face since she shockingly won
1 likeThis has be to be one of the biggest fuck ups in criminal justice history. How the prosecution failed to secure a guilty verdict with the overwhelming evidence against her is beyond comprehension.
0 likesI still don’t understand how the hell they let this woman walk knowing all the lies she told and her partying while her daughter was missing for 31 days. And I feel sorry for her parents. This is sick.
0 likesI am absolutely dumbfounded.😪😡
2 likesThis is horrific.
God please help us.😪❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
Ach... that hurts... I wish I hadn't seen that now... they couldn't convict her? Why, because her lawyer wasn't slick? The evidence was pretty clear to me... sigh...
0 likesI don't think this was the parents fault, her solicitor could only go off what she told him and stuff so that's not on him either. How this woman wasn't found guilty I don't know but I don't think the jury knew which way to go with her either
0 likesI listened to this case on tv in Georgia it was sickening
0 likescraziest outcome of a case i’ve seen yet 🤦🏽♀️
1 likewhen the verdict came out i almost threw my remote at my tv i was so infuriated
1 likeFor anyone who is wondering why there is no comment.
13 likesYouTube did a lot unfair with this account, some videos were taken down. But some are back now and there is no prior comment, a warning is added that says "The following content may contain suicide or self-harm topics." then you have to proceed to watch it.
according to twitter reactions apparently JCS is done with YouTube bc of such issues. another channer named J C S was made and a few videos are uploaded there as well.
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Seriously?
1 likeHer parents deserved a better child. They are such good role models and supporters, my god it's saddening that they were rewarded with this disgrace of a human to call their child...
1 likeShe’s so use to faking everything & her parents helped her w that 🤦🏽♀️ L parents, L kids.
0 likesShows that our jury system is broken!!
1 likeThat case took up most of my time in elementary school, from around when i came to America in 08 to like when i was going to middle school Central Florida News 13 over and over again
1 likeThe jurors were spectacularly gullible. Wow😳
0 likesI genuinely cannot believe that she got away with this 👁👄👁
0 likesI can’t believe they found her not guilty!!!
0 likesthis one is also on you Florida, but this one is rlly rlly rllly hard...like even if you somehow thought she didn't kill her with premeditation....as sure as hell there was a big child neglevt case for at least 20 years, but scott free (okay, lied to law).
1 likeHellish to think that kind of ppl and brain structure defines your "death row" chamber situation if you are unlucky enough.
The amount of lying this woman did and getting away with it is absolutely astonishing.
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Yes and how fast she can come up with lies too like its part of normal conversation
22 likesShe was luckily because she asked for her lawyer. If she hadn't the detectives would have had more to work with. However IF you are ever arrested follow her lead.
6 likes@macdaddyjill I used to have that skill as a child too.
13 likesThe problem with that is remembering your lies, not making up the lies as you speak
She's an Olympian of liars..
11 likesShe's got nerves of steel.
2 likesShe's not big into books.
THEFRISKIESTDINGO She seems like she’s got ASPD or something similar
0 likesI see you in a lot of YouTube comets
1 likeReminds me of my old roomate
1 likeTHEFRISKIESTDINGO what’s the book’s reference supposed to mean?
0 likesIt’s women’s talent. Lying
0 likesShe didn't get away with it. She served time for lying.
0 likesSimilar like Chriss Watts case, he killed family in order to get more comfortable life.
0 likesI’m here again to show YouTube that we need JCS back but man…. I cannot stand that girl and her attorney!!!
1 likeI cannot get over the narrator’s voice. Not only his voice but his eloquence. The way he puts words together in a sentence is unparalleled.
0 likesTimes like this, I truly hope karma rears it's ugly wrath where needed. Especially on a "Karen" like Casey.
0 likesYou know what's wild? I believe the tale that her father abused her in that manner. If you look at people who lack empathy to the degree that they can deliberately kill other human beings, you will almost always turn over rocks like that.
1 likeThe only time Casey cries is when she feels genuinely hurt or connected to something. She cried when her attorney depicted her childhood.
In addition, one of my best friends growing up was a pathological liar. It turns out she was being abused by a foster child that had stayed with them for some time.
But that's the only thing about Casey I'll believe: that she was sexually abused. Everything else is BS, and I cannot actually accept that she was allowed to walk away, especially with internet searches about suffocation, combined with the duct tape over Caylee's mouth....
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Then again, plenty of people have absolutely nightmarish childhoods and go on to be awesome, amazing people. It says a lot about her that she would use that in trial to induce pity in the jury.
0 likes@mousewithastrawberry I agree! I believe she's a manipulative, opportunistic, pathological liar. I just also believe that she was abused.
0 likesMom: "They believe in you,"
8078 likesCasey: "good 😊"
Mom:"and they believe in finding Caylee"
Casey: "okay 😐"
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LITERALLY
402 likesLmao
70 likesVery telling
107 likesAh. The tell tale signs of a person who was injured as a child, was rewarded to lie, lives in her head and parties to cope. Pressure in college. She refuses and/or was never able to be held accountable. Clearly upset she was no longer the center of daddy's attention anymore. Probably had her buddy help her and he bailed. 🤣
109 likesAt least Caylee doesnt have to go through that icky generational nabbing and blame her actions on that, too. Yikes.
Rest in peace, child. 🦋😇🦋
Find peace Casey. 🤯
I think Casey was jealous in some twisted way of her beautiful daughter.
244 likes34:55
20 likes@Mary Ray so why did he call her gorgeous???
4 likesMom:They want to help find Caylee. Casey: why
32 likesSummarizes her whole entire outlook on this situation
4 likesThat "Hi!" she gives at the beginning of that call makes me reeee every single time
11 likesThe time stamp is 32:06
5 likesFINALLY. Of all the disturbing things about Casey, that one was so absolutely glaring and, to me, guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. She was just showing some real emotion when her parents let her know they still loved her, and she just flatlined when she actually saw the numbers of people on the shirt. (Or perhaps just knowing the nation was looking, and that gave her a feeling of dread. Personally, I felt like in that moment it was a mix of a feeling of dread, and for whatever reason, a sort of resentment upon either seeing her daughter's face in the print, or upon seeing the support for the daughter she so clearly did not love. Hated enough to kill, dump in a trunk, then dump in a swamp. I don't know why but that's exactly where her reaction took my mind to.)
6 likesI almost can't even believe all the more common ones that are pointed out, at least in contrast to this one. It was the one that gave my gut a dreadful feeling. That and that blue ass mug shot of her way later.
@Jenn Ross I felt that at that moment too. Some kind of jealousy was at the very least an ingredient in the whole dish.
3 likesYea her facial expression showed it all
0 likes@Jess Pavlichenko because it’s normal my dad says that to and he isn’t a rapist
1 like@kateca west 😳😳
0 likes@7KVexus Injured mentally??
0 likeslmfaoooo
0 likes@The emo user i think it's normal a father calling his daughter "gorgeous" that's not sus, i mean my father always called me "gorgeous" and he isn't a rapist too.
0 likes@Gus Althorp ?? lmfao 💀
0 likes21:32 : THE FUCKING FACT THAT SHE WAS MORE UPSET THAT HER MOTHER WAS ON THE NEWS AND GOT MORE ATTENTION THAN HER THEN HER DAUGHTER GETTING KIDNAPPED REALLY PISSES ME OFF.
1 likeHow the hell she was found not guilty? The jury systems seems to be so incompetent here...
0 likesHOW THE HELL DID SHE GET LET OFF WITH THIS?
3 likesWhy did she have the child in the first place? Why? Why raise a child for 2 years just to kill her? If you want to have a free life without any responsibility (which is totally understandable at the age of only 22) don't become a parent. And if you couldn't do anything about preventing it or aborting the pregnancy at the earliest stages - give the child up for adoption. It's fucked up but by a magnitude better than friggin killing a 2 year old in cold blood!!
1 likeThe 911 call says everything about Casey. Period.
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Our justice system doesn't work like that. From the outside Casey strikes me as a disgusting psychopath, but if the prosecution and defense do their best and a jury of your peers find you not guilty then unfortunately that is the way it is. "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer" -Ben Franklin Hopefully she gets what's coming to her.
37 likes@James Benz Yeah, but in the end people , who are not professionals, are deciding about the fate of defendants. Maybe a judge would have come to the same verdict, but you could be more certain about the verdict being correct, because these are professionals, who are trained to separate objective evidence from emotional arguments and decide what beyond reasonable doubt means.
16 likes@James Benz must say in this summary its damning against her. A month without calling in missing kid after a fake babysitter that doesn't exist abducts her kid. After researching how to kill someone, then her kids found in her own trunk.
15 likesas if one moment could say everything about anyone.
3 likeslol Periodx3
1 likeI can't believe there's people defending her innocence, acting like a murderer didn't just win the case. A conman just conned a jury of "dummies", that's what happend.
17 likesI would really like to know, how we got from caylee was missing a month an grandparents had been calling to see her.
1 likeToo her daddy had her an she drowned in the pool
This is one messed up story.
An acquittal doesn’t necessarily mean you didn’t do it. Not Guilty means Not Proven. It doesn’t mean the jury found her innocent. Everyone knows she did it, but in a court setting the evidence has to be strong and the jury has strict rules to follow.
1 likeEdit: And unfortunately she can’t be tried again due to double jeopardy, even for the lesser charge of involuntary manslaughter. The state messed this one up(overconfidence imo)
@Chaps Shepperson obviously you weren’t paying attention. The child wasn’t found in her car. She was found in a swamp weeks after the first month of missing.
0 likes@Juice no, unfortunately the legal system worked correctly. The prosecution and cops could not provide enough evidence to prove “beyond all reasonable doubt”.
1 like@Vanish723 she was also charged and found not guilty of manslaughter so your comment makes no sense.
0 likes@Benjai involuntary*(it’s a lesser charge). She was found “not guilty” of first-degree murder. I wish they could redo the case(like everyone else), that’s what I’m getting at, but it can never happen.
2 likes@Vanish723 the jury has come out and stated since that they are regretful of their decision
1 likeWE DEMAND A RETRIAL WITH A DIFFERENT JURY, OTHERWISE CAN EVERY SERIAL KILLER IN AMERICA STOP KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AND GO AFTER HER AND OTHERS LIKE HER PLEASE..
1 likeEVERY POLICE FORCE NEEDS A DEXTER..
2008 was a crazy year Amanda Knox, Casey Anthony and Jodie Arias all happened in 2008 everyone was clued to all three cases and Casey Anthony was found not guilty and so was Amanda Knox and Jodie Arias is in prison for the murder of Travis Alexander. All three cases in 2008
0 likesProsecution absolutely shat the bed with this one. Getting heavy Law and Order SVU terrible actor vibes from the prosecutor.
0 likesStill can’t believe she got away with it
1 likeJim has RUINED every other true crime content on YT for me. The bar is set too high!!
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same for me
82 likesIt's set ridicoulosly high tbf. Im not even into crime but this is my favorite channel
299 likesGo look at his stuff on patreon there are dozens of videos on there that he won’t post on YouTube
94 likesPatreon is totally worth it. Find Stephanie Harlowe too. She goes really in depth
123 likes@Chandler Klaus pretty sure he just shut down his Patreon this month
15 likesRight? I always watch these videos and then wanna go find other true crime videos and I just can’t find any that are as good.
32 likesThis is my favorite but That Chapter is very good as well as Bailey Sarian on Monday’s. :)
111 likesThatChapter is at the same level, incredible! Check his Channel out!
76 likesThat chapter covers stories you've never heard of, not the same stories every other channel covers.
50 likes@Maarten Sys yeah That Chapter is a great channel
26 likes@SlamScum tbf that chapter covers plenty of stories that other channels cover.
11 likesthats fr fr
1 likebut he still can`t swim ^^
6 likesyou would probably really like Stephanie Harlow! both of these channels go really in depth. Stephanie did like a 3 part serious on Casey Anthony.
20 likesThatChapter is my other true crime main squeeze...
22 likesYEP
1 like@Maarten Sys Tree gang!
7 likesI love That Chapter too🌲😀
10 likes+ JCS
Mike(That Chapter)is great for me as not so long
I don't get much time.
🐝
Yep
3 likesThat chapter sucks
12 likes@ART !!! 😀🌲🌳🌲👍
2 likesJack Hazardous he didn’t shut it down I am still on it he just said he is not going to post on it anymore, but the patreon library will remain
4 likesThatChapter is very good, although he uses shorter clips and doesn't really do the analysis that JCS does. His upload schedule is very consistent though, which I definitely appreciate.
12 likes@megan marts I love Stephanie!!
1 likeI found this channel searching for videos about the pathology of Jussie Smollett. Very impressed, I clicked on the series for the family annihilator Chris Watts. I've been in love with JCS ever since.
5 likesJim doesn't treat his viewers like they're stupid.
11 likes@Hannah Dimitrov I've seen some of her content.. It seems like more traditional commentary rather than breaking down the psychology of the people involved. She seems pretty popular though so I should probably give her stuff another shot.
4 likes@Unreliable Gamer Oh yes I love his Patreon!!
0 likes@Adam Baldwin Yes ThatChapter is very good and the frequent uploads are nice. Any idea if his Patreon is any good?
2 likes@Matt Not sure, I am not a member of his Patreon.
4 likesAs much as I would love to directly support every Youtuber I watch, I watch far to much Youtube to be able to afford that! :D
@samantha sandoval kendall rae is mediocre. I prefer Danelle Hallan or Stephanie Harlowe when it comes to true crime, and they do mostly cold cases or somewhat older cases, and for current stuff I like Linda on Its A Crime and she's growing super fast. In just a matter of a few months she gained 100k subs. Another one is WTAF...a small channel. None of those channels are exactly like JCS though. They are reporting the stories but don't go into the psychology aspect of things.
5 likesJCS is absolutely the BEST crime series I have ever seen.
7 likes@Matt His Patron is release early content that goes on YouTube. He does Q&A that he doesn't release publicly. He has his merch and he comments on videos. You can direct message him to make suggestions for new videos.
2 likesNice comment Smudge. After watching this episode I was angry but you have made me smile a little.
1 likeThat Chapter is pretty good
2 likesAgree 100%
1 likeIt sucks I started watching true crime content with this channel
2 likesNo doubt. I love the spot on analysis
2 likesThatChapter is amazing, love him
4 likesThe documentary on hulu is better
0 likesSame here
1 likeSeriously
1 likeHim and Stephanie Harlowe
3 likesCheck out Leader One Studios this guy pulls no punches in his content and gets the criminals and situations a graphic detail. Hes quickly becoming my favorite content creator on YT. Leader One Studios
1 likeIs it safe to put my bank card details on his website to subscribe and watch more?
1 likeExactly
2 likesThere's a podcast called serial killers on Spotify it's a very high quality set
2 likes@Maarten Sys not the same level but I do love Mike's channel
0 likesTCL hold its own, i feel.
1 likeStay-ven!
Smudge she breaks down everything. She researches the parents and home life. Sometimes she goes as far back as grandparents, all so we get a full picture of the murderer. She’s amazing. Highly recommend
1 likeJust found this channel and I'm too excited about it.
3 likesJCS and That Chapter
5 likesWho is Jim?
1 likeTom S Her edits are horrible as well ...
0 likes@hanadi saffieddine JCS stands for "Jim Can't Swim," which used to be the name of the channel.
3 likesA to Z check out the JCS Patreon. It is a gold mine! So much good content. It’s a buck a month ( or more if you want). Jim recently said he’s not going to upload to Patreon for the foreseeable future but there is enough in there to be worth your $$ for a while.
1 likeFacts
0 likes@Ellen For the psychological aspect, I recommend checking out Derek van Scheik. His channel is a bit more short-form, but still long-form compared to many YouTubers. He analyzes video clips, many of them true crime interviews etc. And looks for inconsistencies in body language, much in the same way Jim analyzes interrogations.
2 likesIf anyone has other suggestions for channels like these, I would love to hear them. I seriously need more of it in my life!
@A to Z If you mean on Patreon - sure!
0 likesCheck out a new channel
1 likeProfiling Evil
So true
0 likes@Christian Cullen I mean I wouldnt say its the same tier but he makes decent content. Calm down bud
0 likes@Teena T murder, mysterie,monday..my favorite I love her
1 likeExactly!!!
0 likesStephanie Harlowe is great too
0 likesI really enjoy this channel, but also LOVE Bailey Sarian.
0 likes@samantha sandoval I was just going to mention her. Outside of her, I watch no other true crime channels but I'm trying to find another similar to hers.
0 likesThis is because he is based in psychology and psychological analysis. He can take people’s brain out and untangle it like a knot. He is empathic and logical. I picked this up within 5 minutes.
1 likeThat Chapter is definitely awesome. But the way this channel breaks down the psychology makes it my favorite.
1 likenick distefano Same! She’s so sweet and thorough! I adore hee
0 likesstephanie harlowe is a really good true crime channel! totally recommend her
1 likeSeriously!
0 likesThat Chapter the Irish guy does a pretty good job too and throws in little jokes here in there to make fun of the shitty people
3 likesAgreed, amazing 👏🏽 Criminally Listed is good too
0 likes:O bless this thread for informing me of his patreon.
0 likesThat Chapter is REALLY well done as well, check it out. Mike knows his stuff, as Jim does.
1 likeAbsolutely
0 likesThat Chapter is good too
0 likesWhose jim ?
0 likesCasefile is the best
0 likesHonestly 😫😫. If he uploaded more often itsa wrap💀💀💀
0 likesStephanie Harlowe is good too
0 likesStephanie Harlow is also super super amazing. Respectful and does deep dives.
0 likesTry ThatChapter
0 likesRight!? So good. Everything else seems so light weight
0 likes💯
0 likes@Maarten Sys not even close
0 likes@SlamScum except his monologue is trash
0 likesFACTS!
1 likeIKR. I love this channel. Perfect narration and its so simple but so awesome. I wish there were more uploads.
0 likes@Chandler Klaus Wow. He has a lot of patrons. No wonder he doesn't post much on here. He really doesn't have to . That is awesome
0 likes@Jack Hazardous why?
0 likesDeath Row Executions he had almost double before he announced he was not going to post on patreon anymore.
0 likesWho’s jim?? 😅
0 likesSame here...I feel entertained yet educated at the same time while satisfied
0 likesThat's true.
1 like💥On other channels,
everyone else drones on, reading articles already written.
💥And make sophomoric jokes about tragedy.
💥For clicks.
💥For 💸.
💥And they have the nerve
& lack of self awareness to comment on sociopathy.
For real!!!
0 likesChantal Brown sorry I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic but the original channel name spelled out JCS - Jim Can’t Swim
0 likesI came here to suggest ThatChapter and saw that everyone else already has hahaha I'm so proud of Mike
1 likeAmen!!
1 likeWell said
1 like@Young Che For me a distant 2nd place is ThatChapter. Mike over there is actually a quite talented storyteller and he keeps it interesting, but as far as analysis, JCS takes the cake.
0 likes@Maarten SysI agree!!
0 likesWatch “that chapter” his videos are good af too
0 likesHe and True Crime Loser have it cornered.
0 likesExactly. Jim is the GOAT
1 likeNo music
2 likesGood information
Long videos
It's sad that this seemingly simple formula for strong videos is ignored by most content creators. Gotta make that ad revenue. Who tf cares about your legacy or adding to the world.
SERIOUSLY
0 likesFr haha
0 likesPsychology stuff fascinates me and this series is just presented in such a well constructed and digestible manner, it's very good content.
0 likesi dont get what happened so did she kill her daughter or not is she in prison or is she free and why are casyes parents bad i thought they were against casey and wanted to find their grand daughter and was it true was the lawyer said Casey was molested by her father at 8 was he defending her or against her im so confused
0 likesHe is great isn't he!
0 likesSaaaame lol
0 likesSame
0 likesAllso here....
0 likesI mean seriously...this channel is the shyt...it hurts my heart about these cases...and the calculated...just😰
0 likesCheck out Murder on CCTV or FBI Files. Covid national lockdown binge incoming...
0 likesShe could have just given Caylee to her parents and they would have taken her gladly. Like wtf.
1 likeHow in the hell did she not get prosecuted for this? She's got to be the worst and most obvious liar I've ever seen and yet she somehow skates. The justice system for ya.
0 likesWonder is she figured since had the baby, also has the right to get rid of her? It seems to me she missed the freedom of going out, partying ect and the kid was stopping that from happening.
0 likes"Do you know Ms. Anthony?"
0 likes"Yes sir."
"Did you go to a party with her?"
"No, sir."
"Okay, one more question, are you now or have you ever been...a DJ by chance?"
"Yes, sir..."
"Bailiff, please take this man into custody."
She Googled "foolproof suffocation" an hour or so before the girl died. It doesn't get any more definitive than that. The fact that she got away with this is a disgrace.
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Unfortunately still can’t be used as full proof evidence to link her to the murder of her daughter. The argument would have been so has 40 million other people have searched for “ how to kill someone “ it’s in the top 100 searches on google
6 likes@Music Is My Passion "How to kill someone" is a pretty non-specific though. She specifically search for ways to suffocate someone - only to then have her daughter die by suffocation within an hour or two based on the estimated time of death. She was also the only one at that time of day which had access to the computer. Full proof? I guess that depends on how you look at it - in my book though, there's no doubt after hearing something like that.
23 likes@Cim I'm not saying that she isn't guilty. But searching for "how to suffocate someone" online can mean a million other things and the mother's defence attorney would have used that. the prosecution would have needed hard evidence that would have linked her directly to her daughters death, dna evidence, weapons used and a motive. In addition to those things then searching online for "how to suffocate someone" could have been used as a back up. The smallest mistake or error would have collapsed the entire case. Maybe if they pushed for manslaughter they might have reached a guilty verdict
0 likes@Dana White's double chin And if you look on my channel you can see a video of waitrose managers that were clearly sexually abusing and harassing young girls at waitrose right? waitrose's head office excuse is that they were just having "fun" and the manager was just nodding his head and you don't actually see him doing anything. It's easy to miss direct something that is clearly in-front of you as long as it can be interpreted and perceived as something different.
1 likeI know. It's almost comedic how obviously damning those searches were. What galled me the most, though, was her lawyers' smugness after the trial. They were actually proud of getting a child murderer acquitted.
3 likesShe wrote in diary she hasn't been this happy in a long time, made the right choice etc and partied the entire time daughter was "missing". Even with defenders case about how she "supressed feelings by lying" the diary would certainly prove otherwise. She was fricking happy the daughter was gone what other proof is needed it's literaly there, in black and white, a confession that she wasn't sad in the least! With so many clues and contradictions put together they don't even need 100% proof or a confession that states "yes me, Casey murdered my daughter" so the "not enough proof" is bs honestly.
0 likesMusic Is My Passion A million other things like what? 'how to suffocate someone' is an incredibly specific search, especially when your own child ends up that way within hours of you Googling it. Waiting a whole month to report a child missing and the smell of a dead body in the car should have given it away.
2 likes@Music Is My Passion They literally were able to prove that Casey was the only adult in the house when that was searched on the computer. By simple logic, you couldn't have killed someone thousands of miles away, but she could sure kill someone under the same roof. Awfully interesting don't you think? 😶 That's too much of a coincidence to just dismiss it like that. dead bodies and fecal matter are two very different smells and that's a poor comparison.
1 likeGlad your videos are back.
15 likesCasey is so guilty it is making me cringe she escaped this horrific murder. She is a sociopathic liar
0 likesHer parents seem like dignified people.
This is the best example of female privilege I have ever seen in my life.
2 likesAttorney Jose Baez is the real life Saul Goodman. One look at his career and damn!
1 likeI was shocked by how that 911 call went. Seemed to be pretty much: Oh, my daughter has been missing for a month, I think the babysitter took her. I’m not too worried.
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She was annoyed that she had to talk to the operator! Listen to the way she says Hello
138 likes@Jacob Egleston right before she says hello, she says she doesn’t want to talk
56 likesand her car was smelling like a dead a person has been in it
27 likesit was as if the 911 operator was reprimanding her lol
3 likesI can't believe she got away with it. She shouldn't have children if she knows she'll want to kill them because she sees them as a basketcase.
6 likes“Like ohhhh my gawd… you guy are being like sooo dramatic… Zina has her”
4 likes@Arminius Music hahaha! So true. Also her “my attorney and I (coz she has him on number 1 speed dial being such a stickler for the law) will entertain any question” is so stupidly bone headed in its confidence.
0 likes@Cindy Tartt lawyer “Would you like to speak to me in -“
0 likesCasey “YES”
Right?? Any normal parent would be absolutely losing their mind trying to find their kid.
1 likeThats why its a huge red flag
0 likes@Fushigi Kennels there’s no flag. She is innocent.
0 likesThis is the paradigm of American society where individualism is highly regarded and protected in laws and constitutions but then it fails to provide an identity for a community.
1 likeThe price is very high and we see now this society crumbling into pieces.
The way Casey's attorney is called "Baez", like "bias", is just hilarious.
0 likesPeople: OJ was the most obvious guilty murderer to get away with it.
0 likesCasey Anthony: oh really? Hold my child.
Everytime someone tells her what's being done to find the child, she's just like "okay, that's good"
1829 likesImagine if you really didn't know where your child is. You'd be telling family to put together a search party, you'd be telling police to put out an alert and spread her photo, you'd be on the internet asking people for help.
She didn't even pretend to have any proactive attempt at finding the child.
She slipped up at 30:04 also and quickly covered with a new statement :(
Really tragic for the child and heart breaking for the grandparents.
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Great catch bruv
49 likesI noticed that too
44 likesHey Gadget Addict! You’re hereeeee
2 likesShe HAD 😂 busted...
29 likesThe real kicker is that had she not corrected herself, its unlikely anyone would have noticed her slip up because it would have been pretty easy to say she actually said "she's had both of you" which would be present tense, instead of the past tense "she had" due to the muffled audio quality and the pattern of her parent's denial. By correcting herself, she only brought more attention to her mistake.
45 likesWell no shit, she knew Caylee was dead the entire time...
11 likes@CellBlockNine thanks captain obvious, it’s a good catch because at that moment in time no one else truly knew what had happened
6 likesNot exactly sure it's heart breaking for the grandparents, they enabled this
5 likesHer parent's have covered up for her in the past. Her father is an ex police officer he has to know she's lying. There's something about her parent's that just seems off.
4 likes@Heavens Devil Exactly they've enabled her behavior and covered for her lying. It's absolutely disgusting.
3 likes@Hatin Life maybe but you see... she chose to have a kid. So it is to be expected that she would care about her. If not, she could have spared herself the trouble and abort or put her girl up for adoption.
6 likesThe fact that you don't like kids isn't a free pass to neglect yours (or kill them).
@Deuzeurh' exactly the guys name is hating life so I wouldnt exactly say he's a normal human being after a comment like that
3 likesHatin Life ummmm FBI can you please keep an eye on this guy
4 likes@ffo kcuf he definitely sounds unhinged, and with a name like hatin life I wouldn't be surprised if he did tbh
4 likesI noticed that too
0 likes@Rose Yup. The correction was the giveaway
0 likesExactly I just wrote 30.04 in my comment. I wondered if anyone else cought that.
1 like@Rose Yes.
0 likesShe is really hate her baby, and this woman, really think her baby take her happiness in life.
0 likesI mean, she wants her parents to love her, support her even tho she is doing bad, not go to school, even killing people.
But as a parents, she dont do what she demands her parents do to her and kill her child instead.
Really great human being.
@Angela Carleton but, she will get pregnant again to manipulate people
0 likes@Hatin Life if you dont love your kid, dont kill her. Give her to other people far more better than you.
2 likesYour kid is human being too, similar like you.
You as human being deserve to live. Why your kid has no right to live?
Give your kid to other people, and stop making baby, if you cant love anything
@Hatin Life you are heartless.
0 likes@Becky Ross agree
0 likes@G. Montoya i dont know,, if i am in pain, imagining how happy it is in my parents hugs, will make me crying out tears. But i will said. Yes mom and dad,, i want to hug you too..
0 likesGod,, i pray, that people like her dont come near my life.
0 likesExactly right , I Will be scared to death if my child got missing , and I beating on every door I could find too ,
1 likeWhats scary is this is just one that was caught. Imagine all the sickos that are smart with the system 🤢
1 like@Lourens Sianturi Never said her emotions weren’t selfish. But still, emotions are emotions. The other commenter was implying she wasn’t capable of having any emotions but that’s clearly untrue when she feels pity for herself.
0 likesThe fact that Casey wasn’t convicted is baffling and scary. That poor little girl deserves justice.
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Dude the evidence was so overwhelmingly obvious. The fact that defense lawyers get paid to let murderers walk is insane.
120 likes@Abe Hoard u don't have a problem with the defense attorney...u have should have a problem with the constitution...cuz the so called murders have right to a lawyer
13 likes@Favour Emma Something you'll likely be grateful for, if you're ever in the wrong place at that very, very wrong time.
15 likesThe universe always balances itself and doles out justice. She will pay.
16 likes@Name Here bahaha. The universe has no sense of 'justice'. Justice is only imposed by mankind.
10 likesMm-hmm
0 likeswell maybe you realize NOW how sexist the system is towards women.
2 likes@Abundance of Realities OJ Simpson
4 likesPaulo Eclectik if you can imagine a better system to produce justice you should make it public. Just saying she should go to jail because we all can tell she obviously guilty would work fine in this case but would fail miserably in 99.9% of cases.
3 likesThe reality is that there are no perfect systems, which as adults we should all know by now. But you can't have a just society without have sytems in place that apply equally to us all. In this case the system failed. It will fail again. End of story.
@Weaseltube 24/7 satellite surveillance of each and every citizen in the country aka China
0 likesJason Simmons it's comforting to believe that the universe isnt the heartless, brutally violent place with no care for anything that it is. But reality is humanity has to fight for every scrap of justice stice and fairness that we can can extract from the world, and it's a neverending struggle that will always have flaws.
1 likeName Here the universe needs to hurry up then because she’s free and clear despite being guilty as sin .
0 likesAlyssa Snider that assumes a benevolent autocracy in charge, which I don't think has ever existed and may be a contradiction in practice.
1 like@Weaseltube do you believe in God
0 likesAlyssa Snider I don't, why?
0 likesOlivia I agree! I’m stunned by the verdict and so is Casey. She has got some bad karma coming.
1 likeJustice is not allowing her have a job make her pay for her lawyer fees
0 likesOnly the living deserve justice. You don't know what happened . You did not witness what happened. Everyone lies. Yes, even prosecutors lie.
1 like@Favour Emma everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
1 like@Father Pucci yup ...love America
0 likes@Favour Emma the constitution doesn't say "prolicide is never to be convicted"
0 likes@Favour Emma the jury is at fault.
0 likesReally? She has never been incasirated or held accountable? Oh dear,this is so sad. I pray she gets justice 🙏❣️ I feel really so bad for the baby. Like she is walking around in the states today right now freely?
0 likesMan,so sad. This lady is a psycho 😡
Statistically speaking, there are 12 people in the entire world with an IQ under 10. How did they all end up on the same jury?
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Lmao
891 likesHahaha 😂
376 likesDefinitely not by accident!
773 likesHonestly though
217 likesTerminology! No your not😂
62 likesTerminology!
373 likesAs a Floridian, I can confirm this to be true👍🏼
LMAO
23 likesi was on jury duty once (i wasn't selected to be part of the actual jury) and it is blatantly obvious that the attorneys involved get to choose which jurors they want to be part of the final jury. and they tend to go for jurors who don't know a lot in general or at the very least uneducated about the topic at hand. disclaimer - just from my personal experience and observation.
694 likesTo be honest it boils down to jury selection. The prosecution needed to make sure there was at least one person that would be a strong foreman. I was one on a case where the defence played on the emotions of the jury. Luckily I was elected foreman and I kept the discussion on the evidence.
142 likesand they were all on Sandra Melgar's jury as well
9 likes@Annamaria V. She accused her father and brother, but my guess is that she was just trying to get a victim card.
229 likes@Holland4evahh
50 likesSo says someone from a country that couldn't fight its way out of a wet paper bag.
Next time we should leave you to the Krauts.
Annamaria V. But do you actually believe anything that comes out of anyone’s mouth on that side of the room????
42 likes@Holland4evahh Europe is going to be a religious continent again very soon whether you like it or not.
57 likesLol there is something called MONEY(bribery), good lawyer, and clout... It can literally get you of anything.
24 likesLiterally she got away with killing ger child just like that! how stupid are they
57 likespuppykicker you spend trillions more on military than any other country (mostly allies). Maybe you should spend more on your education system? Also you lost against Vietnam...
54 likesWait... Brendan Schaub wasn't one of them
7 likes@Great Home watch the movie runaway jury. It's exactly about this
7 likesLol
3 likesI know!! She just blatantly lied about so many things, now she’s talking about having more kids.
21 likesFlorida
8 likes@Vandalore LMAO... I've came across this channel very recently and indeed one thing that drew my attention is how the absolute majority of these stories come out of there.
13 likesbigdpw - Intetesting!
1 likejo gr but cmon it was murder
1 likeEasy, it's Florida! (jokey)
4 likesI've heard through several locals that Florida has no room left in the prison or jail so to take care of that is to find all criminals not guilty for the next few years, seems to be working for the ones with just a little money.
11 likes@Terminology! Not surprising since majority of floridians are trump supporters
10 likesThe probability of there being a human both capable of taking the test ... and unable to score as high as 10 ... is infinitesimal at best.
5 likesShe did not purposely kill that child.
0 likesStop making fun of Jordan Peterson.
1 like@Annamaria V. he didn't do anything it was lies cooked up by her attorney to get jury sympathy. .
21 likes@jo gr Exactly! This seems to be a trend with high profile cases, as if the DA's office needs to show that they are doing their job. Instead of justice, an over zealous prosecution results in a waste of 3 years of court time, taxpayer resource and reduces the publics confidence in the system. We still have the best system in the world, but people easily forget that it prioritizes the freedom of citizens and reducing incorrect guilty verdicts.
10 likesMy guess is that they are all radical feminists.
12 likeswhat a perfect way to decribe the jury, i couln't find one..
4 likesexpert selection
1 like@Angel Ig someone who can take a joke, ily
0 likes@Terminology! lol
0 likesLMAO
1 like@James Mainstream then it's rather disgusting. I would never support my child/sibling after this for sure!
4 likesHahahaha that's so funny. I totally agree with you right there
0 likes@Annamaria V. I don’t think he actually did it
7 likesDid they fall for her production? Where is the best trial footage? I’d like to watch it.
2 likes@Terminology! There are only 12 people in Florida?
1 likeAni Nym IK, R? LOL Excellent!!
0 likesThey’re in Florida
2 likesIts called - pay offs or "jury pressure"! Come on people, can you not put the pieces together at all????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4 likesFlorida
2 likesnah this lawyer is just fucking amazing , he deserves the win here.
1 likeBecause Florida
1 likeThe jury was correct for the charge. The prosecution screwed up, not the jury.
5 likes@Terminology! I used to live in Florida, I can confirm, my IQ droped 2 points the 2 months I lived there
6 likesIt wasn’t the jury’s fault I watched the whole trial and the Prosecutor sucked! Totally unprepared. They should have waited to arrest her and built their case past circumstantial. Especially since DNA was becoming a thing jurors wanted proof or dna. Her Lawyer tore up all there case by explaining away what could have happened doesn’t mean that is what happened. Thats when she threw her dad under the bus claiming she thinks he killed her. And then the jury was only offered 1st degree murder and to prove that they must by law have facts. If they had charged her with 2nd degree she would just be getting out of jail today!
11 likesI think that opening statement with the dad's pens in her mouth thing really did it. Casey was broken before she had the kid
1 likeRight. How did that happen? Someone explain please!
1 like@puppykicker its funny because as soon as those cowards need help, who do they run to
8 likes@Bec Explains how Killary Clinton keeps getting away with criminal charges
7 likesthe scary thing is, i read a profile of the jurors after watching this, and they sound exactly like a certain subset of MAGA people. this isn't about politics. but there is a "type" of person that lacks empathy beyond their own loved ones. also paranoid about "false flags" etc. it seems like the jury was made of the same people who call Sandy Hook a hoax. scary as hell
10 likes@Bec what the DA did wrong was choose to go with murder *first*. because she was acquitted, "double jeopardy" applies so even if they discovered video evidence of the murder, they can't charge her again. they were too trusting of their jury selection and humans in general. i believe the jury would have gone for manslaughter.
3 likesOne of my biggest embarrassed moments to say I'm from FL honestly and I was only 21 at the time of trail!!
4 likesThat's what I'm trying to figure out ??
0 likesSo she killed her kid because she wanted to go clubbing. Then the jury let her go clubbing.
12 likesCORRECT 👍
1 likeBecause the theory of the IQ is made up by the same people who stands behind the Evil of the World.
2 likesI’m deaddddd💀💀💀
0 likes@Annamaria V. - She probably made that up in order to get sympathy. Her relationship with her father, as shown at the jail, was that of a daughter who is close to her father.. not a daughter who was traumatized by, or fears, her father.
9 likesBeing manipulated by a very advanced liar doesn’t make them dumb. They’re naive there‘s a difference. It’s so sad to watch. She clearly doesn’t know how to love and care for anyone but herself. Also she is not aware of the impact of her actions and words on other people, maybe because she‘s totally disconnected with the world itself and her feelings about it.
0 likesF-L-O-R-I-D-A
2 likes😂😂
0 likesBest comment here
0 likesya'll messin' with Terminology so much, it's only 2 months later, and the man changed his name lol
2 likesTBH
0 likesThe same person (the 13th one) brought them together
0 likes@Flo Rida oh, lol
0 likesAgree 👍🏼
0 likes"Reasonable Doubt"
0 likesBest comment by far
0 likestbf the defense attorney wasn't wrong. they didn't prove it.
0 likesThis is crazy. She basically so indifferent ... she makes OJ look innocent. I mean her searches were more than enough.
4 likesThe defense attorneys picked black people for a reason.
0 likes@Ali's- Anime If that's the best sentence construction you're capable of then I don't think you should be calling people idiots lol.
1 likeNo shit
1 likeI remembered they were seeking the death penalty that's where the problem lies
They should have taken that off the table
#Justice4Caylee
1 like#Justice4Caylee
2 likes@Mathilde Tanghe good lawyer... that’s 85% of the reason why she got away
2 likesI never really understood USA jury system. So basically even if there is compelling evidence, if the Jury says not-guilty, the person goes free?
3 likes@Joshi Nirav Yes. You have a lawyer as your defense and if its a good lawyer, your attorney may win the case. The judge has to decide if you're guilty or not. Before that, you're innocent until proven guilty.
2 likesIt shows the real flaw in the jury system, that people who are not very bright can be so easily manipulated.
4 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesThe prosecution lawyer was really bad. Incompetent.
4 likesDon't blame the jury, blame the prosecutor.
2 likesLol
0 likesi’m weak
1 likeThey were all paid
2 likes@Holland4evahh You aren't wrong. If you factor in the entire world population the theoretical min IQ is about 4.
2 likes@Annamaria V. that was obviously a lie, and you fell for it! If it was true and had anything to do with the case, they would have brought her dad up for questioning and the case would have gone a totally different route.
5 likesThe only people in that courtroom with an IQ under 10 were the prosecutors. The Jury did their job exactly as they should. Yes, she almost definitely killed her child but the prosecution should've provided SUBSTANTIAL evidence that PROVED that she, BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT, killed her child, especially when faced with capital punishment. It really is a shame that she's walking free but there's no one to blame but the police for not gathering more evidence and the prosecution for doing a shite job. Jury had no choice. 3rd year law student btw.
5 likesHahaha
0 likesI Wonder the same
0 likesAt least one juror I heard demonstrated the fact that she did not understand that circumstantial evidence (and in this case overwhelming circumstantial evidence) is adequate proof for a first-degree conviction. She kept saying that there was no "proof." She seemed to believe that the only kind of proof you could convict for was forensic evidence, and this is definitely not the case. This should have been better explained to the jury by the court and the prosecutors.
6 likesFemale privilege 💯
3 likesI agree. This verdict is disgusting.
2 likesLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
0 likes@Bec this goes onto both ends tho, the defence attorney and the public attorney get the same rights. This is merely the down side of a jury conviction system. U can play them on emotions, a judge would look at the evidence.
2 likesThey wanted to go home. If they had found her guilty they would have had to remain sequestered for the punishment faze.
0 likesWell chosen by the defense.
0 likesShimmer But can the judge overrule the jury’s decision though?
0 likesI believe that low of a score is only achieved with the affliction of severe down syndrome. The jury were not stupid imo but extremely weak minded bc they got manipulated by that lawyer so hard.
2 likesSo true 😂
0 likesLol it would be in Florida...no offense but yes, Florida....
0 likes@resurrexi ? Republicans have around 0.37 sd higher IQs than democrats on average.
1 likeSee N. Carl; Intelligence 44 (2014)
@Ragnarok Global IQ is around 83-86 as far as I know. Don't remember the exact number.
1 likeSee Becker's updated IQ scores of 2019.
Her lawyer is good I was thinking myself they can’t make her guilty under the law now... the other lawyer probably could of done better and the investigation part and the interrogation where not good and firm enough...
3 likesThat wouldbe like winning the lottery 10 times in a row...
0 likesIn the jury's defence, the could not say she's guilty because of the lack of evidence. We all know she did it, but there needs to be proof. She got lucky
2 likesno offense to florida, but the fact the case/trial took place in florida eliminated roughly 95% of the world from the jury pool so it was pretty probable at that point
0 likesI believe she batted her eyelashes and they swooned
0 likesFlorida
0 likes@some idiot wtf are you even going on about?
0 likes@bec
2 likesYes, that's how it always works. Attorneys get to strike a number of jurors, and they tend to remove jurors who are educated, or opinionated. They want people who won't hold a bias against their client, and also jurors who can be easily persuaded.
There are both pros and cons to this. In this case, it was a disaster unfortunately.
@Annamaria V. Given the fact that Caseay lied about everything else, it is also likely that the assault part was a lie.
3 likesYup
1 like@OhElvira so did the french. Who cares.
0 likes💀💀 idk man, idk.
0 likes@puppykicker You never fought for anything
1 likeI want to know what she's doing now? Like how much did she have to change her appearance so that she's not noticed in public?!
2 likesI ate coleslaw today? 😳🤷♀️
2 likesI know that this is a joke but out of curiosity... is it even possible to have an IQ below 10? xD
0 likes@Annamaria V. my thoughts exactly! How is the father not even in prison or done time for what he did to his own daughter? Did that become another court case in its own? Like.. what the fuck..
1 likeWhat make you 12 ...are you
0 likes12 is a devil number
0 likes@Annamaria V. They never proved that, there was absolutely nothing proving any of the conspiracy theories of the defense, it was all smoke and mirrors to create confusion and doubt
1 like@Violeta Pelzman I will never understand the conviction of Sandra Melgar.
0 likesWe had the benefit of a through uncontested analysis. It’s incorrect to lay judgement with insufficient information
1 likeYeah. There is something about Casey alright. She is completely Nuts!
2 likeshavent talked with her, but she probably has a high IQ
0 likesand most high IQ people "know" (witchcraft, magik, call it whatever, its real)
well played I say! I dont agree with her actions (who knows the true reasoning behind them), but the way soceity is setup at the moment... it pressures highly competent people to do "bAd"
could be a simple sacrifice, could be actions based on regret, idk, is abortion illegal where she did her deed? its all there, just gotta get her to say it
Florida.
0 likes@Annamaria V. you are wrong, her parents did everything right, there was never a sextual assult, all Caseys lies. And the reason we even know that Kaylee is missing was HER PARENTS! They are the one who called police! I watched every single day of that trial and her parents were the only one who had real emotions up there!
2 likesActually a hand full of the jury members would later say that they knew she was guilty, they just wished there was more hard evidence provided by the state prosecuting attorneys. This case was a blemish on the criminal justice system
3 likes@Della With her Drink again Senpai. Hello. It took me a while to understand your post about Casey. After looking up the word Privilege and thinking about what it means, I agree 100% to your post.
0 likes@Bec that’s the point. When they interview you, they ask questions about the situation to see how much you know. The whole reason for that is to get an unbiased opinion since knowing about the situation prior can change the way you interpret information. Unfortunately, to not know who Caylee Anthony was in 2008-2009 you had to almost be living under a rock. Because of this, if you weren’t educated on the topic of the missing child, you most likely weren’t educated at all.
0 likesthey weren't any real evident. they did good.
0 likes@Holland4evahh"racist" is nothing but an antiwhite slur, dont be antiwhite
1 likeNot only Florida but many states.
0 likesThis is the exact reason why these cases should be dealt with judge only
0 likesFlorida
0 likes@puppykicker ah some good o'll xenophobia
0 likesAlot of ppl thought she would get off simple because they had no real evidence.
0 likes@puppykicker Holland is small but has a big influence on the world. They are THE trading KINGS....by far. A Rich fukkin country with a powerfull Marine. Afterall they make te best Marine Deks (Fregatten) of the world.
0 likes@Annamaria V. I was thinking exactly the same thing..!
0 likesSo here is where the tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists reside. Good to know.
0 likesInternet Idiot Flori-DUH🙄
0 likesCause it’s America
0 likes@puppykicker by the way, what’s is a puppykicker?
1 like@Bec I can confirm, but I doubt this was the only factor at play otherwise this case wouldn't even been notable because literally anyone would be able to get away with murder. I think it may have been a combination of the prosecution not being prepared well enough (no confession) and this defense in this case between exceptionally skilled (and also amoral). I've also heard said that CMA paid for her defense with sex. It wasn't discovered until years after the trial though. I think the defense just did a really good job in creating a lot of confusion among the jury.
1 likeIt's Florida.
0 likesPREACH SIS
0 likesFacts lol
0 likesFlorida
0 likesFacts only
0 likesI do think that she was guilty, but the death penalty is not the answer. Especially if there is even a shadow of doubt about the person's guilt.
1 likeThat's a good one 😂
0 likesLmao!
0 likesI can beat that one. Look at the OJ jury.
1 like@Mog How on earth do you come to that conclusion?
0 likes@ELFCloudGamer But was that proven? What was her Father's reaction to that accusation?
0 likes@Chad Chadson What reason?
0 likes@Marian Apgar You're absolutely right. It makes you wonder, that when jurors are selected, are they asked if they understand the process AT ALL?
0 likes@Mike Oxlong They didn't want to appear bigoted in my opinion.
0 likes@ImginaryHeroine Hi, I was very interested to read you're comments. Have you any idea what her Father made of the allegations? Did they have any idea that she was going to make the accusation in court, or did it come as a surprise? I can't find anything that gives me the answers.
0 likes@Helena I agree. The detectives allowed her to be giggly & flirty with them. Perhaps someone should have thumped on the table & told her to wise up & take it more seriously. She didn't seem at all frightened, but then she totally ruled her parents, so I guess she never learned to feel at least a little bit fearful of authority.
1 like@J Bird And baloney 🤣
0 likes@Della With her Drink again Senpai Oh of course! 😜
0 likes@Inspector Spinda And the detectives were too easy on her. They allowed her to flirt & giggle through most interviews. They should have been tougher.
0 likes@Annamaria V. we don’t know if she’s telling the truth... she waited a while before she said anything about her father! And IF he abused her, would that be a reason for her to kill her little baby?!?! Nothing about this case makes sense 🤷♀️🥺. All I know is that a little baby is dead. I’m a mom amd it breaks my heart. It’s very difficult to get/be pregnant only to GIVE LIFE to a mini human and to take it away without remorse? to me is horribly sad beyond belief.
0 likes@gaysy1st When this was still going on, the parents got questioned about the accusation and they acted pretty much like most parents do when they know they raised a compulsive liar. They knew she was facing prison time and chose to let her say whatever her lawyer thought would help her.
0 likesWhen the trial was over, her father wanted little to nothing to do with her and eventually he told the protesters and media camped out on his lawn that his daughter likes to make up stories and the stories became real to her. Basically, they know she's a liar but if you fight her on it she'll never back down. We saw that with the Zanny story, where she knew that woman's life story... a story she made up.
Exactly ✅
0 likesI don't agree with what happened, but the jury couldn't send her to death penalty solely because they could not find the exact cause of death
0 likesCause of death plays a huge case in sending someone to the chair
@Sarah Marie Most trials hAve 2 phases. The first phase is innocent or guilty.
0 likesAfter that, sentencing. They didn't need to kill her. They just needed to cage her for 25 years.
@ImginaryHeroine the state pushed for the death penalty
0 likesWith no clear cause of death, she was proven innocent and was able to avoid the death penalty
Now if the state pushed for a life sentence, she could have been proven guilty then, but at this point she is protected by the double jeopardy law and cannot be charged.
@Levana Vered Good observation. She's trying to manipulate.
0 likesThat wasn't the problem...they couldn't physically place this murderer psychopath at the crime scene and the charges were 1st degree murder the most hardest crime to prove. The jury never had hard facts beyond believable doubt. So they basically just followed the rules of the law. 🥴
0 likes@Annamaria V. Honestly, that part is just insulting.
1 likeI was molested, and I know several people who were molested, raped, attempted to be raped, etc. You would never know unless they told you.
It does NOT mean that we would casually dump a body. That's is nowhere in the normal behavior of ANY victim I have ever known. It wouldn't make a difference if it DID happen, her behavior would still be beyond abhorrent and out of the norm.
Exactly what I was thinking
0 likes@Bec uhhhhh yeah that is always the case so the jury is unbiased. Duhhhhh!
0 likesFunniest comment ever.
0 likes@James Mainstream I have a daughter. The first words out of his mouth when he spoke to her in jail "hey gorgeous" is very weird. Might comment on my daughter having a nice hairstyle or a nice outfit but never consider or discuss her level of attractiveness. Would be interesting to hear what othef dads think about this.
1 like@James P I have two daughters, and the younger one I'll call sweet, beautiful, and other complimentary terms, but she's 2. I have a 22 year old daughter and I wouldn't be comfortable saying those things anymore, so you may be right. I'm just hesitant to jump on those bandwagons without proof, considering the recent nonsense that has been going on. Either way, my heart goes out to that child. Anytime a child is done harm like this, I struggle to fight off the thoughts of what their last terrifying moments must have been like.
1 like@puppykicker WE? I assume that you were not there! And that was not the point here either! You are notorious for your weapons culture, unfortunately not for general education. Plus.... Your name here speaks for itself
0 likesThe jury system is inherently flawed. The average person gets their high school diploma, maybe and associates and that’s where their education ends. I would never ever trust 12 random people with my life. I would never trust 12 people to do the right thing..
2 likesI love this comment
0 likes@Aga M as I have more information about this case, now i know that. I feel so bad about the father... this woman is so disgusting 🤮
0 likesBest comment I've seen under all of these videos
0 likesIt’s not that they were stupid it’s that the prosecution fucked their case up lol
0 likesProsecutors over reached for political reasons. It should have been charged as second degree.
0 likesDon’t dis a whole country bc of one bad trial. America is awesome, now that we’ve voted trump out. That’s why everyone is always trying to come here.
0 likesflorida. something is wrong with most people there. is it the sun?
0 likesYou ain’t wrong lol 😂
0 likesClassic....
0 likes@Mog I hope ur never on a jury😶
0 likesIDK but they did get death threats after they found her not guilty. Must have been the same people on the OJ trial.
0 likesBecause the prosecution never made their case. I live about an hour away from where this happened and I watched this trial everyday and I knew they were never going to find her guilty
0 likeswhat evidence make casey guilty? make the connection that the prosecution couldn't. casey was completely innocent
0 likesBecause they were also required to work on the Steven Avery/Brendan Dassey case
0 likesLMAO
0 likeslol
0 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
0 likes@azsuter without reasonable doubt maybe...pressure to find a guilty is perhaps better than opposite.like o.j simpson for instance.i saw a interview of his then legal shapiro and he wasn t happy about the original decision.
0 likesNail on the head!!
0 likes@Mog and so how did it go, what is the truth?
0 likes@Bec each attorney gets 3 strikes meaning 3 jurors they can get rid of and pick then the court chooses by random number another juror to take their place. They decide by providing a voir dire which are questions the attorneys all agree on that can determine if you are biased as a juror
0 likesChoosing jurors is done by the court. Not the attorneys
0 likesbirds of a feather flock together?
0 likesFlorida
0 likes@Wurstfinger1337 no it's not possible to have an iq at all level of intelligence can't be measured like your shoe size or something like that it's just humans thinking they can control everything
0 likes@READ MY COMMENTS BACKWARDS she is a bad mother
0 likes@Jamie Willoughby Everything can be measured. Trying to say that humans just want to control anything is neither edgy nor true. Intelligence can be measured if we define parameters to do so. You are just outright wrong.
0 likes@Wurstfinger1337 what would happen if your intelligence is outside the defined parameters I had a friend that was very smart partly due to the fact that he was 87 years old he was highly educated in and out of the classroom and knew a lot of things if I had a problem he was the first person I went to l have another friend that dropped out of school when he was 16 because he didn't know how to read very good (not because he was lazy or incapable of learning but because the school system was not good and he slipped through the cracks) he probably would not do all that good on an iq test but he is one of the smartest people I know he is shrewd and learned basic survival skills because he had to if need be he could lead a subsistence lifestyle better than most people if l was lost in the woods he would be the first person I would want around
0 likesInteresting fact: Jeff Ashton (one of the prosectors) was the first attorney in the US to use DNA to convict in a capital murder case.
0 likes@Jamie Willoughby At this point I am not sure if you're trolling. Having skills and knowledge are not equal to intelligence. Depending on what you're interested in and how you grew up this knowledge might vary (the most fitting word for your second friend would be street smart btw). Some would say intelligence is the ability to adapt, some would say human life itself is intelligent and that's it. But most of the time when measuring intelligence we go by measuring memory, language skills, logical and problem solving skills, etc. which are all skills valued in school. Sure, you can just say that the school system is not the best and people slip through but most of the time these people just aren't capable of providing the needed cognitive skills. As you can see, there are defined parameters and especially your second friend doesn't fit any of them which doesn't make him any less of a person... if this world would only be based on ones intelligence we'd be fucked because we need these people too.
0 likes@Michele Mahon you really detailed the whole farce perfect. My biggest aggravation when watching the trial was how people were mad at the jury for the outcome. Those jurors had no choice but to acquit because the prosecution was so bad. Your right they were arrogant and thought they had it in the bag because of public opinion that they fumbled their way thru the trial. Caylee deserved so much better and her mother should be in prison instead of talking about having another baby 😡🤬😡
0 likesRight
0 likesThe prosecutor's book provides an interesting idea on this...he said he knew he would lose the case because of the jury. The case was so widely publicized that the only people that had not yet made up their minds on her guilt or innocence would be people who would never make up their minds no matter how much evidence they heard...and the jury basically said they did think she did it, but they couldn't be SURE she did...ugh. Basically, "Yes, I think she's guilty, but I still have some doubt..."
0 likes@Joe Bajano many people try to come here. Excuse me. (The arrogance 🙄.) get over yourself.
0 likes@Joe Bajano & btw, not all Americans like cheeseburgers. I haven’t eaten a cheeseburger since 1998. So one mistake right there, being prejudiced toward a whole country, & acting like you’re so above everyone. My best friend lives in Tokyo. & I have family in Europe, but have no desire to visit-bc of all the ignorant prejudiced snobs.
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesHer attorney gave them an acute case of the scruples
0 likesLmao... Florida baby!
0 likesThe American school system at work.
0 likes😂😂😂😬🤭
0 likes@Vivi Ornitier Alabama...
0 likesThat's how it works. Been in 3 jury duty requests so far in my life. I always get booted due to my interest in the facts and questions about the attorney s line of questioning. One time I heard waaaayy to much about a "self defence" murder case. But the attorney litteraly told the jury pool that the dude had been shot in the back off the defendants property.. initially I thought wtf... You just got bias with letting us know facts about the case that we shouldn't have known!!! But it was a calculated move.. cherry picking the jury. Anyhoo. F casey anthony.. lol. Let's just forget about the duct tape... I use duct tape every time I go swimming, works great. Nothing bad has ever come from putting duct tape over your mouth.. .. ever.. 😆
0 likesFlorida!
0 likes@Annamaria V. apparently the grandparents were instructed to show NO emotions during trial or they would be removed. I don’t believe she was sexually abused, but used that as a way to get out of trouble because her first plan didn’t work. I’m no expert and wasn’t there, tho.
0 likes@Night Rider exactly
0 likessame state
@Annamaria V. shes laying!!!
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯
0 likesBest comment, I've read on youtube period!
0 likes@bigdpw yeah the point is that they had no evidence against her
0 likes@Kathy M oh so you can understand a relationship from a few seconds clip? Mhm
0 likes@Sebastian Styles you can't get persecuted for rape if there's no evidence. It's her word against his
0 likes@J Bird the abuse part, if you listen, is to justify her lies. She's been forced to lie since she was young because her dad forced her so. And given the parents covered up her lies, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened for real. Her parents look fake af
0 likesI find it hilarious how nobody understood what they said in the end.
0 likesDONT SPECULATE and if your NOT sure you can't prove it.
if you cant prove it you cant sentence someone.
Like the lawyer said : the key question will never be answered.
how did she die?
maybe her mom did kill her , maybe not.
Nobody can prove it.
Besides that its an horrible event that she died.
she didnt deserve that..
And you can see the mom is hurting , whatever reason that is i dont know.
One word, Florida!!! Lmao
0 likesThis whole thing is disgusting, and growing up with mental and physical child abuse I can swear there are people out there who get off on this kind of thing. I had 13 years of abuse, and it changes you so much, you cannot go back to the person you were meant to be.
1 likeAlso, I mean no disrespect here, but Ano Nym, you are very witty.
@jan cason i agree that it is disgusting.
0 likesand im sorry you had to go trough it.
you cannot go back to the person you were.
but if you conquere your trauma you will be jan 2.0
this is a metaphore i hope u understand it.
you cant undo whats done.
and yes i know people get off this kind of stuff.
but it isnt proven in this case.
all i can see is that she is desperate.
and an innocent life is lost.
thank you for sharing :)
i respect you!
Sometimes people judge even tho they dont know what they are talking about
They all fell in love with Biaz! 😣
0 likesBc it was paid
0 likesFucking toasted
0 likes@Yellyman so they were paid
0 likesig it was a requirement to think on the same wavelength as hers.
0 likesCrazy right
0 likesShe wasn’t Hispanic or black she is very eloquent Well spoken innocent looking western woman the system saved her.
0 likesAnnamaria V. Oh please, you actually believe that crap? 🤣
0 likesMandaLa 314 you can not be serious, god you people are obsessed with trump and his supporters, sickening.
0 likesA jury like that actually comes across like leftists.
Every damn time...
0 likessounds about florida to me
0 likesBlue Ribbon Post.
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@First name Last name I agree! Come on, maaan. That horrible woman would say ANYTHING at ANY TIME to get out of ANY consequence. She murdered her child so what's to stop her from destroying her devoted parents as well? What excuse could someone have to just believe that she was telling the truth about her dad? Oh, wait, I forgot... "Believe all women!"
0 likesYou make a mistake, all be it a small one. Their COMBINED iq is actually under 10, not each individual one having less than 10 (i know the comments oldish but had to tell this dumb joke[not as dumb as the jury tho])
0 likesOk but how tf did someone score under ten
0 likesI bet the defense lawyer has kicked out all the smarter ones
0 likes@leons be ah yes, because the legal system was made to reward whoever was the better lawyer, to hell with justice
0 likesBecause they be from Florida. Lol.
0 likes@Bec It depends on the cases. In cases like this I must say u want a young below 40yo educated, possibly not married nor have children and have social life jury. This is a death penalty case, most of the time jury on death penalty cases are more cautious if theres no physical evidence. They dont want that on their conscience later on.
0 likesFor me the prosecutors thought her lies and digital evidence would suffice. Yes the evidence would convince me that shes not a good person, but if theres even a slightest doubt that this girl might not do it then the case would go 50/50 or even fall apart. Prosecutors did a bad job in linking their theory of 'shes a bad person' to killing a baby.
OH MY GOD IM CRYING THATS SO GOOD
0 likes@Holland4evahh seethe harder europoor
0 likesIt’s easier than you think to be manipulated though. That’s why cults exist. Things would be better if her lawyer dedicated his talents to writing instead.
0 likes@Bec Totally, but that's why prosecutors are supposed to be part of the process too! If jury selection is why a case goes weird, somebody made a big mistake.
0 likesThey said there wasn't enough hard evidence to convict. Some of them I guess have had a difficult time with the outcome.
0 likesThat's what I'm wondering.
0 likes@Holland4evahh racism is everywhere my dude.
0 likesbruh all it takes is common sense to realise that she's guilty
1 likeLmaooooo
0 likesI opposed to this yet find it hilarious 🙈
0 likes@Mog doesn't matter the fact is she DID kill the child
0 likes@Annamaria V. she’s a compulsive liar. She made it up.
0 likesI can't agree more! Well said!❤️
0 likesImportant to remember that jurors don't make decisions based on whether or not they think someone is guilty or not. Its all based on evidence and weird rules. Many jurors have had to say not guilty due to lack of evidence etc when they knew/felt the defendant was actually guilty. Its kinda fucked.
0 likes@Annamaria V. she made up an entire person i doubt anything she said was true
0 likesYeah i dont understand this either, i wouldnt want such stupid and easilly manipulated people to decide my fate, it all boiled down th which lawyer was better, the truth had nothing to do with this trial.
0 likesI would assume the defence manipulate the emotion
0 likesThank you and I couldn't have said it better !!!
0 likes@Jason Kauppinen yes and if we let all the immigrants and it will be a Muslim country too. That's what's happening all over Europe and UK.
0 likes@Rudy Flannery why? You had nothing to do with this. Lawyers have a way to convince people they’re bad if they think a certain way and most will follow if one believes lawyers or media etc..
0 likesit's remarkable really, must have been the same people/ decendants of the people in the OJ Simpson trial
0 likesI am honestly still baffled by the fact that, boiled down, the life of a person is decided by 12 random people with no necessary understanding of the law whatsoever.
0 likesOne of them ended up in the Youtube comments section
0 likes💀
0 likesthey may have selected people who didnt know anything about the case, prior to being selected, for 'legal reasons'
0 likes@Annamaria V. product of genes, upbringing and live events really
0 likesMakes me wanna know what the jury directions were.
0 likesJury, SIT.
Good Jury.
Jury, SPEAK.
Good jury.
it's Florida
0 likes@mandala 314 your profile picture and comment says much about you.
0 likesFlorida pal.
0 likesLol, they jury did their job. The prosecution totally fumbled this.
0 likesActually jury had no choice.bcz of lack of evidence thats the truth u can deny it.even if u think also i myself thing she killed her child we cant say someone is guilty without evidence.
0 likes@Jason Kauppinen sad
0 likes@Bec This is true. If you work in a profession which likely indicates intelligence they'll clear you of jury duty, whereas if they think it's possible you'll just go with the herd it's all green. A relative of mine is a doctor and he has never been on jury duty. But his wife who's "just a housewife" has had it.
0 likesOn god wtf
0 likes@Annamaria V. That's exactly what I think. Her parents ran a little family cult, and she was their golden child.
0 likesShes fake af
0 likesWell done lmfao
0 likesFlorida
0 likesdidn't happen just once
0 likesBecause it’s Florida.
0 likes@Bec they actually chose me for a jury and I am highly educated. I’m not tooting my own horn, but I’m saying that they do choose people sometimes with educations. That said, I got out of jury duty because my patients aren’t going to care for themselves for weeks on end while I make $25-30 a day sitting on a jury. The judge signed off on releasing me immediately as soon as he found out what I did.
0 likesI think that’s why a lot of the people on juries are actually less educated, or at least are stay-at-home-parents— they can afford to miss working a little more than some of the rest of us. Personally, I fully support them doing their civic duty; I simply cannot sit on a jury without lives being risked in the process.
Welcome 2 Florida. The state that got Donald “Dufus” Trump elected😭
0 likesBro u got me mid toke on that one, rofl
0 likesOne actually spoke out and said his decision haunts him everyday.. seems they were rlly cut off from the whole scope of things and caseys lawyer was better at manipulating their emotions
1 likeBirds of a feather, flock together
0 likesYou must have never been to Florida before. Not only do 12 people with an IQ of 10 live there, but the 20 people with an IQ of 15 and under also live there. I know, I was born there. Luckily, I was able to leave that state before It affected my intelligence.
0 likesI don't really know what you mean. Presumably you're talking about the verdict. Anyone can see, and the jury very obviously new that Casey Anthony lied, a lot. They knew there was something off about her, they knew she probably had something to do with her child's death, and they all knew she didn't care. However, they also all knew that there was very little solid evidence of a murder being committed by Casey Anthony when the police alleged it happened you talk about the members of that jury having a low iq, yet it's pretty damn clear you're not the reddest Apple in the tree
0 likesnah thats like half of people living in states south of the Mason-Dixon line and we all have the lingering effects of slavery to thank for that fact.
0 likesShe is innocent. The baby drowned in the pool and she felt so stupid and embarrassed that she thought she would make it look like somebody killed the baby so at least someone else would be to blame and not her because God forbid that she gets her reputation tarnished (in her mind)... Then the Marijuana wore off and she panicked and ermmm... Where was she again, huh? Anyway must dash to the Clubs. This is total normal behaviour for a Woman of course she is not Guilty.
0 likes@Jason Kauppinen that is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Europe is the fastest growing Atheists population on the planet. America's zealous Bible bashing is front and centre.
0 likesWhat on earth gives you that opinion?
It the war on science and experts that the right-wing has been pushing. It's designed to make all opinions have equal weight to actual evidence. Now people think the opinion of a c list celebrity is the same as a doctor.
0 likesMuricano
0 likes@Annamaria V. ...do you not THINK this is a LIE also?? ..just think about it for a min...BABYSITTER..person in her MIND....where she said she worked ...Yes worked there BUT not doing what she said...list goes on and ON....do I THINK her father touched her NO ...IT WAS A FEEL SORRY FOR ME ....well that’s what I THINK
0 likesmy IQ is below 10 so its 13 now
0 likes@Andy Tomlins I find most Doctors to be absolute idiots in my Country. The opinion of absolutely anybody could be just as valid as the next persons. A vicious and sick minded criminal can possess the IQ of Einstein and a deeper state of consciousness than the Prophet Muhammad was born with including access to the Astral Realm in a higher and more precise degree than even masters of Yoga such as myself, although highly unlikely... It is still possible that a Human could gain such a level of insight and enlightenment on a devastatingly expansive level that they could indeed attain a level close to masters such as myself in a few thousand more births...
0 likesAlthough though unlikely, with the odds of dying from a falling Coconut from it's Tree being approximately 100'000 times more likely for such a person.
@James P Casey was obsessed with her appearance. She looked like shit and her dad said something to make her smile. It’s no different than telling someone who isn’t that smart that they are “so smart.” You build up your kids in ways that matter to them.
0 likesI do get what you are saying because if my dad called me gorgeous, I’d ask him if he bumped his freaking head, but my dad calls me “baby” and I don’t think anything of it because he always has. Maybe he’s always called Casey “gorgeous?” I don’t know. I do know that I’m a grown woman, in her thirties, and definitely wasn’t ever molested though and it doesn’t bother me for my dad to call me “baby.” Now if my husband called me “baby,” I’d be like, “wtf? I’m not a baby.” 😂
easy, its Florida(spoken by a floridian)
0 likesThat's the way the justice system works, they WILL-NEVER-EVER get an intelligent jury with the ability of critical thinking. This is true so that the stupid zombies aka jury can be easily manipulated. So look no further!
0 likesI approve this message!
A lot of people have the view that women are pure, innocent. On the majority of countries, all of us are pounded with the idea of virgin, helpless, purity of women. Thats the reason theres so many incels, women get less harsh sentences for the same crimes compared to men. The feminist movement was powerful and its implications have changed society and will continue to do so. Reality is, from a societal standpoint, youre at a advantage if youre born a woman.
0 likesThere's no doubt that whole jury thought and know she did it, but they have to go on what the defence attorney said in his closing statement. I seriously don't know how that lawyer lives with himself though knowing he just let a women who suffocated her daughter go free with absolutely no consequences
0 likesI will never understand how Casey was found not guilty when the evidence was so obvious. It’s disgusting to me how she roams free and that poor baby had to die. Internet searches about suffocation, not calling the police, partying for weeks, lying to friends, family AND investigators?? Makes no sense why she was allowed to go free. I’ve followed this case for years and it still baffles me.
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Literally!! Like how fucking dumb were all of the people involved to see the searched on GOOGLE how to suffocate someone RIGHT BEFORE HER DAUGHTER WENT MISSING and still think she's innocent?? 😭 there has gotta be some sort of corruption going on istg
376 likesis it not illegal in itself to lie to the police and investigators?
208 likesIt’s America and she’s white. That’s why.
522 likes@DavoInMelbourne Firstly, let me apologize for being rude. I had just finished watching the video and for hopefully obvious reasons was a bit.. annoyed. In this case, I think sexism has a lot more to do with it then racism. It's a known fact that women get off easier constantly in court, and I'm thinking it's the same thing here. "She could never, a mother could never harm her child like that!". Swap the race, and I doubt anything would change. But if you swapped the gender, I'm willing to bet she'd be convicted in a heartbeat.
149 likes@Alykat which black woman was chafged for this?
11 likesI must agree, i since yesterday after seeing this. I am perplexed, this person clear as day is a killer.
14 likesHer body language, her lies for a month,the google searches, the interview etc.
The childs remains found,duct tape over the mouth and nose. How can a jury not see this alone,as a severe real issue,how? They really believed the made up story, throwing her dad under the bus....as a phedo too.
Im blown away,just sad for the child. Shes a real victim with no peace or justice.
@Davoln Melbourne
12 likesWhat are you're thoughts about Andrew Coffee IV who faced six charges in connection with the raid on his Gifford home by police.
Two cops shot & killed,his girl who really was in bed,killed by crossfire.
Andrew Coffee, a black man was found not Guilty & free same day as kyle rittenhouse.
Plus if your kid drowned accidentaly and you were disposing of the body why would you ductape her airways?? This was proven beyond reasonable doubt because the facts speak for themselves
20 likes@slayne You think the prosecution let her off easy?
18 likesThey were constantly trying to portray her as a habitual liar and party girl who couldn't care less about her daughter's life.
Granted, all of that is true, but this is the prosecution's fucking job, to prove the defendant's guilt. Why you would complain about the prosecution trying to paint a defendant as violent and aggressive is insane to me.
Also, do you have any proof that white women without any prior convictions get off easier than black women without any prior convictions?
If it was a man he wouldn't have gotten away with it
13 likes@Tommy 50377 it’s so easy to say that when you’re white Tommy 🙂
11 likeslook up the oj simpson case
11 likesthe system is all sorts of fucked. i hate this world.
5 likesEmotions aside, she simply had a damn good lawyer and the prosecution made mistake after mistake. You can't send someone in prison just because of emotions and feelings. Yeah, we all know she killed her daughter but you needed hard evidence to convict her for it. The jury did the right thing and the only one left to blame in the end was the lame prosecution.
12 likes@Gaymer Lying to a police officer is a misdemeanor so nothing really significant but in that case she told so many BS that they could have charged her with obstruction of justice.
5 likesThing is that there is no real direct evidence in that case. Her google search history can be seen as a circumstancial evidence but it's not enough to send you behind bars if you have a good lawyer. Of course all her lies with imaginary people and stuff are fucked up but it doesn't prove anything either. Moral of the story : Never plead guilty and if you are guilty don't ever tell them anything that could help the investigation. Better of serving them some BS stories or just STFU.
5 likes@DJ Yoshi She's not Jewish, to my understanding.
0 likes@Alykat You understood wrong.
0 likes@DJ Yoshi So then explain 💁🏽♀️
0 likes@DavoInMelbourne it’s way more than race
2 likesDo you know what forensics found after the autopsy, or if they did any research on the car that was reported as smelling like a rotting corpse? They never said anything about it in this video other than the first mention of it, which kind of tells me that the investigation just ignored it entirely. I've looked at the little amount of evidence and the mother's behavior, and everything points to her killing her daughter.
4 likes@Gaymer yes, she was found guilty for that and sentenced a fine and 4 years a However it was ruled out as time served because she was in jail for 3 years with credit for good behavior.
0 likes@Lana c: Don't look at my search history, no telling what you would pull up. I can't imagine anything else more private and embarrassing.
3 likesTo be honest, if I were a member of the jury, there is no evidence in hell that would convince me to name a 22 year old girl guilty if it means that doing so would get her the death penalty. That would make me no less of a murderer.
3 likes@Iam Cleaver that’s why if you’re a biased juror, they won’t accept you for one of these intense cases. They’ll summon you for minor offenses like traffic
9 likes@Tommy 50377 you literally cannot analyze this case without at least taking a moment to consider this. In America there is a bias towards black people in the criminal justice system. I don't see how you could think that this case would have ended the same way as it did if the mother was black.
7 likes@Nicole How would they know if I am a biased juror?
1 like@Tommy 50377 it’s not everything but clearly your response shows it’s a big deal to you and you’d rather ignore it all together
2 likes@DavoInMelbourne and attractive .
3 likes@Tommy 50377 Sorry, only just noticed this. Apology accepted. Yes I know, it's an emotional topic so sometimes our initial feeling can get the better our more rational selves. Yes, agreed, if it was the father rather than the mother, it could well have been a very different outcome.
3 likes@Kim Durig yep, agreed. In this ever increasingly shallow and superficial world we live in, you’re far more likely to be acquitted the more attractive you are.
5 likes@Gaymer she was charged guilty of lying to the police actually
1 likeIt's justa baby. She can make again lol
0 likes@Nicole It's not a matter of bias. He just said if there is not enough evidence, he couldn't, on a good conscience, name someone guilty.
1 like@DavoInMelbourne I'm black and even I am disgusted by what you said.
5 likes@Gaymer yes it is illegal to lie to officers and investigators, and that’s the charges they found Casey guilty of, and at the end of her trial, gave her a 4 year sentence with time served from initial arrest in July 2008 to sentencing July 7, 2011 minus a cpl weeks from bonding out twice but re-arrested soon after each time and only served 10 more days and was freed July 17, 2011.
1 likeUnfortunately it is difficult to convict somebody based on knowledge or “knowing” what occurred with circumstantial evidence versus have physical evidence like DNA, video, confession, finger prints, forensic hair (like the single hair being consistent to hair on Caylee’s brush was found trunk of Casey’s car but the process used was new and research was being done on if that hair banding can occur on a living person) or fabric (like without finding fingerprints/dna of a suspect on the duct tape used on Caylee but was found to match with the duct tape on Casey’s dads metal fuel can) matches of what was used and what’s found at crime scene or on a victim. They have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt it was Casey and could not possibly be anybody else. I concur and strongly believe she is guilty but the law clearly states believing is not good enough to help prevent innocent people getting set up or convicted wrongfully.
0 likes@UCstPGVtZ7bvC4rMdDgyxsXg hey lady, you know who OJ Simpson is?
0 likes@DavoInMelbourne I bet you still think juicy smollett is innocent or that browder was telling the truth.
3 likesThank god the legal system doesnt care if you understand or like it. Fact of the matter is its better for a murderer to walk then for an innocent person go to prison for murder...
0 likesShe went free? (I skipped the ending after the whole sexual assault prosecution part). FUCKING HELL this is why I hate the world and hope to die this year; it's too fucked up.
0 likes@Tommy 50377 everything in this world is quite literally about race. you people made it so.
1 like@DavoInMelbourne The fact that you blame it on race instead of how broken the judicial system is really speaks a lot
2 likes@Gaymer how the hell she wasn't charged with about thirty cases of obstruction is a mystery to me. They could have charged her with those first just to get her in a cell and then build a stronger 1st degree murder case.
1 like@Tommy 50377 Bud it's definitely a race thing. She was set free because of white privilege - she is not seen as 'evil' by jurors and the court because she is not seen as 'a threat', as many non-white people are. Brittney Poolaw, a native American woman was imprisoned for 3 years for a MISCARRIAGE purely out of her power. Shanesha Taylor, a black woman, received 18 years of probation for leaving her kids in a car while she had a job interview. This is not about race, but her race was 100% a privilege in her sentencing, and if she was Native American, Black or non-white, she would have gotten a guilty verdict. This is the privilege that comes with being white, you don't notice these things. Take a look around every now and then and realise what's happening in the world.
3 likes@Gaymer nope
0 likes@DavoInMelbourne OJ Simpson: famous white footballer.
2 likesNot sure if that evidence was presented in court or discover after. If it was presented in court then I am surprised it wasn’t a mistrial, but defiantly shouldn’t have been not guilty.
0 likesits america tho its hillarious ! better than tv
0 likes@Pet my head I assume you're talking about Vince Li? I completely disagree with the verdict, you're correct that the flaws there are legally systemic regarding the mentally unstable. That said, that's apples to oranges man. Not just a different country, different circumstances. No not every juror or prosecutor is racist in the States, systemic racism does not operate in every courtroom and corner of the country. It does exist though, especially in urban areas with highly concentrated clusters of low income, low education people of color. Because of longstanding systemic racial biases, privatized prison systems, investor interest and lobbyist groups, the US has not only the highest population of incarcerated individuals of any developed nation, it also incarcerates urban centered minorities at twice the rate. Given this, there is some merit to the notion that being a white woman holds a higher bias grain of doubt in some counties. Look no further than the blatant biases that exist in family courts regarding divorcees and visitation.
1 like@Gaymer racism wouldn't be a problem if there was only one race.
0 likesIt’s because the body decompose and they didn’t have enough Evidence to convict in a court of law. Obviously she did it, but if there’s no way to prove it, you don’t have a case. There was the lies and the partying, but the whole case was a joke. The police and everyone involved could have handled it better
0 likesI believe that’s obstruction of justice, so yes a crime, but I don’t know law 🤷🏻♀️
0 likes@DavoInMelbourne You mean less shallow, right? By all accounts, literal witch hunts were a lot more shallow than the modern world.
0 likesI assume everyone in this comment section is trolling…
0 likes@V P The idea that Casey Anthony got off because she's white is what's ridiculous. You speak without nuance.
0 likes@DavoInMelbourne over an hour of video and race was not mentioned once. Maybe get a clue next time instead of fishing for dopamine upvotes.
1 like@Bettermetal830 Better to assume that then realize the truth of what people are actually like, I suppose.
0 likes@gokuhawks14 It is one of the best in the world.
1 like@Zachary Drummond You make a fair point , but the fact that what you say is true is still sad because even though the American Justice system is is better than other countries doesn't mean it's actually good. A gold turd might be better than a bronze turd but it's still a turd. And that's kind of the point of my comment. I just believe it can be greatly improved on.
2 likesOkay, give us the evidence then.
0 likes@DavoInMelbourne what country are you from? Did we flatten it in recent history?
0 likes@Tommy 50377
0 likesSeems to me like you're in the position of a perceived disadvantage (being male), therefore you blame sexism, and because you aren't black are known a position of advantage there it's easiest for your dissonance to accept "sexism" as opposed to racism. The law is definitively more hard on black people than white people, more so than it is on men vs women.
seems like you haven't followed the justice system at all though
0 likes@Tommy 50377 dear god just open ur eyes
0 likesCircumstantial evidence does not equal guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
0 likes@Gaymer She served time for lying to the police, over the time she would have for the charge actually while awaiting trial. Since she was found not guilty (she should have gotten a needle in her arm), the judge considered it time served and she walked out the court room free. Disgusting in my opinion
1 like@Gaymer YOU SAID IT CAN'T BE IGNORED BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CASE! Saying that "oh she got off because she is white" means nothing. It's no different than if I said "oh she got off because she is a woman" or "she got off because she is attractive". You need to back such statements up with PROOF not just speculation.
2 likes@DavoInMelbourne and it was Florida.
0 likes@Alykat don't look up how the ADL was formed then
0 likes@Alykat Curious...why did u capitalism Black people but not brown people?
0 likesWhy do you view brown people as inferior?
@Gaymer racism is apart of every race just to let u know
0 likesThe prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
0 likes@Tommy 50377 had she been black under the same circumstances she would've gone to jail immediately.
0 likes@Gaymer it absolutely is illegal to lie to police, especially during an investigation. Are you high?
0 likes@Gaymer No. Laws protect defendants in that they don't have to testify against themselves. Same with family and your wife/husband.
0 likes@DavoInMelbourne And OJ????
0 likes@Tommy 50377 maybe not about race..But seriously what's wrong with America. it's clear she is guilty.
0 likes@Stan D that literally has nothing to do with what i said, it wasn't about the child's race but hers
0 likes@DavoInMelbourne Yay race-baiting!
0 likesYou might at least say it's because she's an attractive young woman and be somewhat on the right path...
Because she has connections. Her daddy is an ex cop
0 likes@yen aponte he has connections to the jury cause he 's an ex cop? 🤣
0 likes@Gaymer OJ Simpson
0 likesThe prosecution failed. Simple as that.
1 like@Alykat Haha thats a bold theory you got the evidence for that?
0 likes@FlickThe Bean Bad take
0 likes@Ria Hill Obviously you don't know of any, regular cases involving non-famous people basically never get famous. There were over 20k murders in America last year, do you really think you'll hear about every single one of them?
1 likeAnd quit talking about 'blackness' as if it's some nebulous, spiritual concept. OJ's skin was black, so he was black.
@DavoInMelbourne what about OJ ? I thought he was black……???
0 likesit's called sleeping with your attorney, apparently ://
0 likesshe didn't go to jail for this?? how stupid can they be, its so obvious, why else would she lie If she "wasn't guilty"??
0 likesMakes me wonder how much the Jury got paid, because wow. Just.. wow.
0 likes@Tommy 50377 intersectionality lmao. you aint ever heard of white woman tears?
0 likesThere's always street justice. Wouldn't be hard to find the murderer. You could take matters into your own hands if you were really that upset about it.
0 likes@DavoInMelbourne I didn't realize OJ and Cosby were white. Thanks for "enlightening" all of us! 👌
0 likes@Andrew Oost yeah but white people usually get little to no jail time; this video is an example.
0 likesI personally agree to what you're feeling Ma'am. And feelings aside, the presented circumstantial evidence is almost a dead give-away of what really happened to the child Kaylee. But that defense attorney sure knows what he is doing by raising an argument of technicality. What happened to the child Kaylee can never be proven without a shadow of a doubt unless there are eyewitnesses to compound with the circumstantial evidences like the duct tape, the internet search about suffocation and so on and so forth, and more so if they can coaxed Casey the mom into a confession. But this is where I have my contempt for most lawyers. Because, based on the circumstantial evidence only, although there is no eyewitness, confession or camera to record the thing, the circumstantial evidence clearly points out that the child, Kaylee was murdered, and that Casey the mom, just by her indifference to that reality is already enough evidence in most states and even here back in my country. And to see that lawyers willingly defend a person with this type of case is appalling and a foolproof evidence that most lawyers do lie for a living. On a parting note, let me quote Detective Sherlock Holmes regarding facts and circumstantial evidence:
0 likes"When you have removed all the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".
Casey’s cold response to her best friend crying over Caylee’s disappearance was infuriating. Christina was more concerned and heartbroken over Caylee than her own mother. Awful.
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a red flag
51 likesCasey’s behavior in this situation shows her innocence or...
17 likesinvolvement in Calley’s disappearance!!!
Right she sounds like a 13 year old
10 likesThe Breakfast Clubber well obviously she has to be one of the two 😂
8 likesI hope Christina can get over this tragedy, bc between her parents and Casey herself..well ... They just don't GIVE a sh*t
12 likesI’m genuinely confused. Realistically even if she was found not guilty of murder, shouldn’t she be charged with neglect of child, miss information to police and taking part in disposing the body??? how tf did she get away with anything
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Our system works better the more melanin you have.
313 likesJustice is often blind to see white, wealthy people.
@GR GR less
72 likes@Hilko van Walraven denying truth won’t change reality.
43 likesThat wasn't what she was on trial for
16 likes@GR GR they aren’t denying what you said. You should have used less instead of more.
68 likes@Anybody k exactly 😂 more melanin in your skin means a ‘darker’ skin tone! Lmao!
58 likesShe got 3 years for misleading police.
45 likes@Sebastian Styles yea but I’m confused if he meant that or he meant the opposite😂
1 like@GR GR denying the truth won't change reality. It's still less xD
6 likes@Anybody k
92 likesThe system / justice works to put black people in jail.
The system / justice often fails to put white people in jail, even when they are guilty.
Yes, I said MORE and I meant.
More melanin you have, higher the chances “justice will work to put you behind the bars”.
I can’t believe I need to draw for you guys.
@GR GR oh ok well I’m liking you’re original comment because I believe that to be true
5 likes@GR GR No it does not I know you want to make black people seem like victims but that’s just not the way our justice system works
34 likesI think her dad, a former cop was a dirty cop!I think some people may have been bought off?
23 likes@Brenda Faithful well pointed... who knows.
6 likesa good lawyer and an easily impressionable jury
16 likesThe police would have had to have charged her with neglect prior to the trial.
4 likes@GR GR it works "better" the less NET WORTH a person has. It's an issue of POVERTY and LEGISLATIVE CLASS privilege, NOT skin color. Stop drinking the sjw kool- aid. BETTER YET, stop trying to Jim Jones everyone with said Kool - aid.
28 likes@Daniel Denying racism exists. Does anyone fall for your lies?
24 likes@GR GR Based
3 likesTo my understanding, it is because she was charged for first degree murder, not anything else. The evidence they analyzed didn’t sway them to believe it was first degree murder. And she didn’t have any other charges, so they couldn’t convict her of other things. If I’m wrong someone can correct me though; I am not experienced in legal stuff
3 likes@GR GR Isn't Justice supposed to be blind?
2 likes@bobafettjr85 there are many things supposed to be very specific in life... and they are not.
4 likesSooner you realize that, sooner you wake up for reality.
@Queen Anne's Revenge just ignore people who can’t perceive reality as it is.
5 likesSome of them believe in the system and in what they tell them.
Try to laugh; is the only thing we can do.
@Hilko van Walraven no he’s saying justice works when there’s more melanin involved..implying what the rest of his comment implied
0 likesBut the problem here was that the prosecution went for first degree murder. Not other charges. So the jury was to decide whether this was planned murder beyond a reasonable doubt. And the jury felt the evidence couldn’t prove that. They shot too high with that charge. And I guess the defense knew that or she didn’t want to plea to a lesser charge... I’m not educated on exactly how it all works. But I know she’d be in jail had the charge not been premeditated first degree murder
2 likesFlavor Aid, not Kool Aid. Most of the people at Jonestown died from drinking or being forced to drink cyanide laced FLAVOR AID. I'm only stating this because you specifically mention Jim Jones and everyone always days Kool Aid. Flavor Aid deserves the bad publicity revenue.
1 like@Conner Worrell then you're definitely a white person.
1 like@Roxanne Moser you’re definitely a white person
0 likes@GR GR I am not saying that you are right or wrong , because I don't know the answer, but trying to solve a multiple variable problem with a blanket statement is what philosophers call "double ignorance".
3 likes@Roxanne Moser so ?
0 likes@Conner Worrell is this coming from a white dude lmao
0 likesShe was charged and convicted with neglect I believe.
0 likes@Pilot no no it is not
0 likes@GR GR no, and also don’t you mean the less 😂
0 likes@GR GR I got what you meant.
4 likesThe sentence was meant to be read sarcastically .."our system works better the more melanin you have" ...it was a way of saying you'll only be found guilty if you aren't white and wealthy.
I seriously don't understand how so many people can't understand that.
GR GR lmaoooooo
0 likes@Brenda Faithful
0 likesAt least at that moment he smelled decomposition out of her car and decided to do nothing about it
@manisch kreativ great point! I thought about that too! Things do NOT add up! Unless we are getting missing information from the video...
0 likes@GR GR oj Simpson... Ring a bell?
2 likesThe prosecution was not charging Casey with any of these charges. In court you cannot just randomly assign new charges to the defendant. If they still wanted to charge her with this, it would’ve taken a whole new trial and it would have just been done detailing her misinformation to the police.
0 likesHas absolutely nothing to do with skin color lol somehow I just knew that would come up here even though it's the last thing anybody should be talking about
5 likesCasey was charged with child abuse (in addition to charge of first-degree murder) and found not guilty on all charges.
4 likes@GR GR what are you smoking?
0 likes@hebbe keke I am a singer.
0 likesI don’t smoke.
@Anybody k No? He was right
0 likesShe was but they were different suits
0 likes@GR GR a poor white person and a poor black person will have much more in common than a wealthy black person and a poor black person. The rich and powerful are using us as tools, all of us, and they’re dividing us by means of race (along with under things). Stand together with all of us GR!!
7 likes@GR GR You can't really blame the system in this case, it was just one profoundly stupid batch of jurors. 99 times out of 100 this case goes differently
2 likes@Captain Hindsight She actually was and she was found not guilty. Also found not guilty of child abuse and manslaughter. It's at the end of the video.
2 likesShe was charged with neglect. She was found not guilty. Her charges and the verdicts are stated at the end of the video. She got off on everything. There is absolutely no explanation. Florida let her off scott free.
2 likesWhite
0 likes@Oof Da Doof you need to understand abuse and how that works. Abusers will help. This would be a long discussion and not enough room on you tube comment section.
0 likesGoogle abuse online because there's so much info. on it.
Thank you for your comment, and I hope that helps?
@Brenda Faithful thanks but I still don’t really get it. I’ll do some research I guess
0 likes@Oof Da Doof awww, is there another way we can talk that you'd feel safe? I'm happy to talk with you....
0 likesThere's so much info. to be talked about and I'm not working much these days so I'm available. You are wanting to learn...I can hear that. You have a nice heart...🙂
@Brenda Faithful we could talk over discord but I have a lot of work to do today so tomorrow would be fine. You seem nice too 🙂
0 likes@Oof Da Doof Awww thanks!
0 likesWell, I've got girls that are adults and grandkids now. Most people are shocked I'm a Gma. Lol...
But I can look at Discord...I don't have that app and I'm not familiar with it.
Oh, you know, tomorrow will not work...I have doc appointments and then an appointment with my coach for eating differently... I'm going thru menopause. Lovely, isn't it?
So, let me know... I'll look into the app tomorrow! 🙂
She did get convicted of lying to the police.
1 like@GR GR you ain't never lied
0 likes@Sven S. are you serious?
0 likes@Uncomfortable Shirt complain to the system.
0 likes“Justice” is blind the less melanin you have.
“Justice” works the more melanin you have.
@GR GR "Justice is blind" has never meant "Unfairly being locked behind bars is blind.." it has contextually meant the opposite. You made a mistake, stop trying to double down its cringe
2 likes@Uncomfortable Shirt the concept is pretty different from reality.
0 likesComplain to the system.
@GR GR that's just absolutely false. I bet you're the type to still think Mike Brown was "murdered" by the police. The justice system is far from perfect, but it has nothing to do with race, you'd know that if you knew anything about what you're trying to speak about. Obviously wealth plays a part, considering lawyers cost money, but luckily for everyone in this country, capitalism allows everyone a chance to acquire the wealth they're willing to earn. I don't care to hear excuses, you either put in the work or you don't, it's that simple.
2 likes@GR GR I'm black and I understand completely what you mean...I agree
0 likes@GR GR race baiter cant type lol
0 likes@Daniel W. OJ Simpson was wealthy, you think he'd walk if he wasnt?
0 likes@Brenda Faithful yeah ,you know her dad at the video call was beside her and supported her, when her mother was focused on her missing grandughter , her father was focused on her. After all, i thins the statement of the lawyer about the abuse of her father was true, and it's him who supported all her lies
2 likes@GR GR pity O.J. Simpson had so little melanin
0 likes@GR GR Typical YouTube commenters bro. They have no idea how to read lol. I got what you said in your first comment.
1 like@Jimmy I know, I know.
1 likeI am 26 and I remember the first time I felt like “wtf is wrong with these animals. I won’t teach them.”
ps: not offensive, all humans are animals. some of them are more than others. Lmao
@Peepee Butt incorrect. That was one charge the jury could vote for, but they didn't. All she was convicted of was misleading police. Travesty of justice.
1 like@Cathy Earnshaw found only guilty of misleading police :(
1 like@new day yes! This story is so cram packed and just hurts me to see this!
0 likes@new day doesn't it make us all wonder what this mother is up to today)
0 likes@GR GR The gender gap in sentencing is about 6x larger than the racial one. It seems it has a lot more to do with her being a chick than anything.
1 likeWelcome to American judiciary system ( Media manages & controls the judges, jury & the entire nation)
1 likePeople will do anything “ I mean “anything”. to have 15 seconds on tv’s) , teens will slaughter & bludgeoned to death their own beloved mommies just for that 15 seconds
Why do u think the strongest nation on the planet, a nation proclaimed to visit the moon produced the dumbest& most mindless, heartless, boneless ( progenies) on the planet?
@SomeDayIWldLkeToGetJstce4MyRepttn Very True!! Preach it!
0 likes@GR GR You mean the less melanin you have.
0 likes@GR GR the reason you need to draw it is because it could also “the system is less likely to falsely accuse you if you have less melanin, thus working better” the confusion comes from wether ‘works better’ mean more guilty in prison or less innocent in prison
0 likesbro idk. the jury has got to be trippin balls smh
0 likes@GR GR menendez brothers? Wealthy and white and charged with life in prison
0 likes@Haley Wells
0 likesEvery rule has it’s exception.
What really baffles me is that they didn’t even convict for manslaughter, child neglect/abuse or messing with a corpse (even though that wasn’t a charge) when the whole defense is that she drowned on their watch. Then freaking buried her. How is there no conviction AT ALL?
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To my knowledge, I believe the prosecution was completely going for 1st degree murder with no other charges (which clearly didn't work) so she got off scott free. Could be wrong, we watched a movie on this case in my criminal justice class so I'm pulling my knowledge from a few years back. Either way the whole thing is just disgusting.
74 likesOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEE PUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!
6 likesLack of evidence. Unfortunately even when something is absolutely, glaringly obvious, you still have to provide evidence better than reasonable doubt.
42 likes@Mason Burkett The doubt is NOT reasonable. She clearly did it
28 likes@Mason Burkett Understandable. But Casey Anthony backtracked and contradicted herself so many times. There was enough evidence as far as verbal statements go to convict her alone her own car even smelled like a dead body was inside it, both her parents originally said that!!! How often does anything smell like a dead body??? I feel like the amount of attention this case got helped and hurt getting justice for Caylee Anthony. I mean Casey Anthony was out living her best life for an entire month without knowing the whereabouts of her own daughter... I could keep going there's waaaay too much evidence and signs and clues etc. That says Casey Anthony killed her own daughter. Smh, this case still aggravates til this day 😤
28 likes@Young Dab yup. I think the prosecution just didn’t have enough evidence when it came to the defense’s argument about her drowning. The body was so old by the time they had found it, they couldn’t determine a real cause of death; not to mention they just weren’t expecting the drowning argument to begin with. Since they couldn’t really prove that she DIDN’T drown and was killed through other means, a shred of doubt was still there - and unfortunately that’s more than enough for a not guilty verdict.
10 likesexactly how did she drown in a pool and found in a pond DUDE WHAT???????!
8 likesFirst of all there appears to be no proof for her drowning whatsoever.
39 likesThe search for "suffocation" and "foolproof suffocation" hints to intent of killing.
Duct tape on the dead kids mouth and nose also does. The disposal of the body instead of calling an ambulence when she "drowned" shows Intention behind her death. As does the whole thing of her just not reporting anything for 31 days and misleading the police.
@Max Westphal absolutely
7 likes@Max Westphal exactly. the whole case should have been so simple but here we are.
5 likes@Mason Burkett “lack of evidence” is such a BS excuse 🙄The child was found with duct tape around her mouth & nose, & Her hair, along with decomposing skin was found in Casey’s car. The internet searches, along with the constant lying & month long wait to report her missing was also completely ignored. Plenty of people in Florida have been convicted on less & I would bet my bottom dollar if Casey was a man, with the exact same defense, that jury would’ve convicted in a heartbeat.
19 likes@keijxii no one of the charges was aggravated manslaughter of a child its literally in the video... i can not imagine how they found her not guilty its literally the defenses argument... how can she be not guilty for something she literally claims happened as her defense
5 likesI think it’s because she already had time served not time enough DAMN IT 🤬🤬🤬
0 likesexactly this is crazy
0 likesWhite.
2 likes@Max Westphal i was thinking the exact same thing, if she drowned...why was there duct tape around her mouth and nose? this case is so frustrating and the fact that she got away with it just pisses me off. Caylee Anthony got no justice :(
2 likes@Jesse pierce i will never understand the reason why you would just have random people decide who is guilty and who isn't, i mean you would think a judge who has experience in these cases is the way to go.
1 like23:38 is easily the most stunning part of this whole ordeal. Her best friend gets extremely emotional at the idea that her friend's daughter could be injured or dead. Yet that child's own biological mother doesn't show an iota of emotion. In fact, she's annoyed that her friend is getting emotional and she can't get a hold of her boyfriend, who she just admitted has nothing to do with her daughter.
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This part of the video hit me very hard, just how cold her words felt against the sadness coming from her friends voice. This whole situation gives me such a strong sickening feeling in my stomach, I feel her brother and best friend know she did it.
14 likesHer affect remains flat and stone cold unless the focus is her. So obvious
6 likesSome interesting facts...When Casey was being held in Jail during the investigation, and as a search was being conducted all over the Orlando she never once showed any emotion...not fear...not hope that Caylee could or might be found during this time. The only time Casey showed any emotion (and it was a genuine meltdown-hyperventilating) was when Caylee's body was found near her home by meter reader Roy Kronk . Now remember, the news was reporting that remains were founds but not whose they were, but Casey already knew it was Caylee because she put her there!
4 likesHer meltdown was captured on Jail video and a Dr. was called in. IMO she was and always will be a disgrace!
Besides making up the nanny’s name, Juliette Lewis is also a fictitious person as stated in the video. But Juliette Lewis is a well known actress, ironically who’s one of the main characters in the movie “Natural Born Killers “ who murders people in the movie.
1985 likesI think she does word/name association in her mind as a way of remembering her lies!!!!
I can’t believe detectives or the court never noticed this.
Edit:
Also the theory that when Casey made up name “Zanny the Nanny” is really just her associating it to Xanax (zanny, xanny etc.) bc instead of her sending Caylee to babysitter (who didn’t exist) she would just give her Xanax to pass out whenever she went out.
So in my opinion, if she’s the type of person who thinks she’s so clever to make up names associated with her behavior and actions as her technique to remember the fake names and her web of lies, I don’t think my Juliette Lewis theory is that far fetched.
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no fuckimg way bro
72 likesI'll never be able to disassociate that movie from the Columbine Massacre
18 likesAnd that was her fav movie?
4 likesWhat exactly is your theory, I don't understand what you mean?
2 likesI was thinking the same thing
3 likesAbout the “Zanny the nanny” theory, as far as I know it was the dad, George Anthony, who had a suspicion that Casey just gave Caylee Xanax so she could go out and party. As Xanax sometimes is referred to as Xanny.
78 likesYOU ARE ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!! A GREAT CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AWAITS YOU!!! WOW! ❤🙏❤
27 likes@Daley Carter I think it was a theory on how Casey managed to deceive everyone and lie to everyone this convincingly...I personally think the killer’s just a sociopath who doesn’t care about anyone but herself, no further theory. But it doesn’t mean ppl can’t dissect her behaviour or try and see through her lies✨
11 likesI think that Zanny the Nanny theory checks out. As soon as I heard the nanny's nickname is Zanny, my first thought was this woman gave her daughter Xanax.
40 likesMaybe she used the whole 'Zanny the nanny' thing on Caylee as a euthansim so that she wouldn't accidently say that she had xanex in public, but rather she had Zanny
15 likesThat goes crazy deep. Good Job
4 likesshes basically a living usual suspects
4 likesHoly shit that totally makes sense.
3 likesThat's good that you spotted that ! X
1 likeYeah… picked up on the Juliette Lewis name right away!
1 likeMakes a lot of sense. I’ve also seen that “Zenaida “ was a real person, just like the guy she stated introduced her to the nanny. She just picks out names to fill a character role in her head.
4 likesWell I just vomitted in my mouth a little from disgust. Kudos on you for noticing that.
0 likesI thought it was weird her nickname was Zanny "Xanny" but this is interesting!
1 likeDamn
1 likeshe's like Keyser Soze from The usual suspects
1 like👍
1 likeThis is very interesting, I've been exposed to some lies which basically are make-up storiws from reality but most of them are made up by very young children. It would be very interesting to understand how this behavior goes all the way up to the adulthood.
0 likesThanks!
She definitely thinks she's smarter than everyone else
1 likeYour are brilliant...... hats off
1 likeThis was one of the biggest miscarriages of justice in history.
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No it wasn't, shows why having an attorney is so important. Barry Morphew lawyered up too and he's just chilling.
102 likesTo me it’s THE biggest miscarriage. But yeah her lawyer was the shiz, can’t deny that
346 likesMy great great grandpa created the carriage but his version never took off!! now that was a miscarriage!!
52 likes@Drowning Lemming It was a miscarriage of justice in that she is obviously guilty but she got off. There was no justice. Yes, it is important to always have a good lawyer, but this woman is 100% guilty and she should have been put in prison for life.
470 likesIt was just another post-birth abortion that the media tricked everyone to care about.
60 likesNo, it wasn’t..there are millions of miscarriages of Justice but it doesn’t make for good dramatic documentaries or news. Sadly
41 likesEh, pretty sure there's thousands of worse cases.
37 likes@Drowning Lemming exactly
0 likesWhat, she got off? O.o
7 likes@snaz27 hahahaha really??
1 likesnaz27 .....yep.
1 likeShe obviously did it, without a doubt. No matter her past, she killed the child. As JCS said, she gets off with a second chance her daughter will never have, all because she could afford a top notch attorney.
65 likes@Johnny Allen Shane Prater - I don't watch TV or anything, never heard about this case before.
0 likes@Jay D Search Results
18 likesWeb results
Emmett Till is miles worse.
Duckman1616 Emmett Tills is beyond disturbing. Truly heartbreaking, horrifying and disturbing
21 likesI heard a rumor they bussed in the entire jury from the OJ Simpson trial to sit as.the jury for the Casey Anthony trial because they did such a good job. Can anyone confirm?
14 likes@Amber’s ALERTTS She was guilty as hell.Plus Biez was extorting sex from her to pay his lawyer fees.
7 likesIf it doesn’t fit, you must acquit.
9 likesShe is forever known as that girl who got away with murder so maybe there is some justice out there.
14 likesalthough i think Casey is 100% guilty.. i can't shake the feeling the grandfather knew
16 likesDrowning Lemming what do you mean no it wasn’t?? Are you kidding she is guilty as fuck!
5 likesTurkish-American Groyper yeah ok dude👌🏻 Caylee was 3 years old.
9 likesMike Vincent that’s bullshit.
2 likes@Drowning Lemming Really?
3 likesNot talking about the attorney but how she did indeed kill her own child.
It is a miscarriage of justice indeed.
Except it wasnt, they lacked the evidence to convict her, our justice system is based on evidence.
15 likesIf there is no evidence against you, the state can not convict you of any wrongdoing and the state needs evidence in order to convict you. Is she guilty or not, i dont have a clue, i suspect she is guilty but that is not for me to decide all i can do is go with the evidence. Which is what the jury did here, should they have convicted her without evidence? Are you that naive.
there is only one explanation for this.
1 likeNo SLAVERY trumps this...but yeah...this is horrifying...😩😩😩💚
3 likesWhat a farce. Lawyers are bastards. The case will more and likely get reopened soon enough
1 likeHeh, miscarriage.
3 likes@Tony Howell I've never understood where she got the money to pay for an attorney. He isn't a public defender i doubt. Her parents wouldn't have paid so where did she get the money. Maybe you are right
5 likes@Science is Hard Pretty sure this was done because they were worried if child was still alive. I felt the way you did but then thought shit they probably gotta play it like she might get saved
1 like@Daniel Lassander It's not that they didn't have evidence, it's that the prosecution believed that the strongest approach was to convince the jury of Casey's (lack of) character and for them to convict her on those grounds rather focus on convincing them of the evidence gathered during the investigation. It didn't work, partly because the prosecution were fucking clueless, partly because her defense was so good, and partly because of the public attitude towards the case at the time.
14 likesCasey killed her daughter, beyond the shadow of a doubt, she just wasn't convicted of it.
@Drowning Lemming Maybe it's important to have a defense, but I think you're a wretched human being if you don't find this an absolutely horrendous scar on the face of Lady Liberty.
5 likes@Kenneth Ledford Why don't you tell Caylee how she's just one of a million victims? Oh right, you can't.... Why don't you tell that to the people who really cared about her? Oh right, you won't... TV can make what they want of reality; every life matters, including Caylee's.
4 likes@Duckman1616 No life is worth more than another, except to bigots.
2 likes@Daniel Lassander How or why was it then that duct tape made its way over the mouth of the pool-drowned girl? I suppose her very flimsily alleged childhood abuse is just cause for murdering her own child for the convenience of her lifestyle? I call bullshit dude.
3 likes@Joe Mann that's not possible because jurors are chosen at random
0 likesDaniel Lassander you provided the only reasonable take in this whole thread
1 like@A B He's not saying she's innocent. He's just distinguishing between legal guilt and how everyone feels about her guilt. Two different things, with the former requiring evidence to meet the relevant legal tests. Legal guilt of murder requires proof of deliberate, premeditated murder, which the jurours didn't feel was present. I agree Casey could have killed her by accident (probably too much sedative). It's the prosecutors fault for mis charging the crime and forcing such a high evidence threshold.
6 likesAbsolutely, the fact they cleared her of all counts. Is unbelievable. Even if they couldn't get her for 1st deg. murder I believe they surely had enough for the other charges.
4 likesThey looked at her and saw a pretty young girl and nothing else. Worst jury, in the world.
@Tim E God help you if you really think that, because even I can't if you are that estranged from decency.
0 likes@Izzy KittyWholeheartedly agree. Though I consider it more unforgivable than unbelievable.
1 like@Kali These are all circumstantial. That doesn't prove she killed her unfortunately. They couldn't prove with DNA or an eye witness, something like that, that she killed her. A smell that someone said was in her trunk isn't proof. Either is her lack of emotion.
3 likesSometimes circumstantial cases are won by the prosecution but this one just didn't have enough evidence.
Everyone knows she killed her that's why its so frustrating.
I bet everyone on that jury believes she killed her daughter. But they have to by law, find her not guilty if there's any doubt
@Drowning Lemmingshe got away with murdering her child. That is a crime.
3 likes@El Astronaute Almost every actor in this tragedy was made up by the killer. How can you base a trial when half the people involved do not exist. A
7 likes@DangerDan She'll have to answer to God for her actions. There's comfort in that, at least.
4 likesBDLIME it is frustrating. We shouldn’t let killers go free.
1 likeA B you are incapable of differentiating between “she probably killed her daughter” and “it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that she killed her daughter”
2 likesLearn the difference.
Tim Tim can the state apply for a retrial with a different prosecution team?
0 likes@Kali No. Not unless materially different evidence came to light. "The Double Jeopardy Clause in the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution prohibits anyone from being prosecuted twice for substantially the same crime. The relevant part of the Fifth Amendment states, "No person shall . . . be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb . . . . "
4 likesGuys, yes it sucks, but do you know how many people get away with murder everyday sitting high and mighty at insurance companies denying life changing surgeries or medication because it falls outside someone's coverage plan or because they didn't pay for the plan which would have allowed it? Or all those oxy executives and doctors of which many only paid a fine for destroying tens of thousands of people? I don't make the rule, just like all of you I just follow them. She was found innocent and that is all we have to know and now she is allowed to live her life.
1 like@El Astronaute he's a defense lawyer, his job is to make sure that their clients get the best defense so that there is no reasonable doubt when they are convicted. If defense lawyers just sold their clients out if they thought that they were guilty, the justice system would be a joke.
3 likes@Andrius B I know how law works. I studied it. But this is why I wouldn't be a defence lawyer. You really have to sell your soul to the devil.
4 likes@Amber’s ALERTTS do you have any proof of that? If you do you should take it to authorities. If you don't, don't claim it.
1 like@A B I never said his life was worth more, I said it was a much worse miscarriage of justice.
0 likes@El Astronaute I wouldn't think about it like that. Defense lawyers provide a valuable utility that is required for our justice system to function. I wouldn't say that their job often involving defending criminals makes their job even semi-immoral, rather, it insures our rights.
1 likeReconsider your position There was no physical evidence presented, as many others have stated. The prosecution went for character assassination and it failed. They relied solely on circumstantial evidence and they failed.
5 likesJesus Christ, y’all are acting like if we don’t think the prosecution did enough to prove her guilty BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, that we think she didn’t kill Caylee. Those are two separate things.
Imagine if googling “how do you make explosives” was enough to convict you of murder, and enough to sentence you to death row.
Xxx Vvv Great breakdown, but I think this is hopeless mate. People we’re responding to just wanted to see a lynching, not justice
1 likeDrowning Lemming 😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesAmber’s ALERT’s lol @ believing Casey when she said she slept with her lawyer. Imagine believing anything a proven compulsive liar has to say
1 likeTim Tim well touché. But it wouldn’t have surprised me
1 like@Tim E You do realise that many crimes are solved without the use of physical evidence right?
0 likesAmber’s ALERT’s why would that not surprise you?
0 likesDuckman1616 yes, I am aware. Again, misunderstanding my, and others, point(s). The point is that the jury did not believe there was enough evidence presented to convict Anthony.
0 likesThe other point is the jury could believe she is guilty of something, but not believe the prosecution presented enough evidence to convict her. Googling certain things and having a lack of emotion should not be enough to convict someone of murder.
People in the comments section are having a very difficult time differentiating between personally believing she killed her daughter, and whether the prosecution presented a good enough case. That is one of the things that separates a court room from a lynching. People in the comments section want a lynching.
@Tim E Did you watch the video? It wasn't just a few google searches and being cold. She repeatedly mislead and lied to police, she failed to report her daughter missing, she was seen partying during the time her daughter was supposedly missing, she talked about being the happiest she'd ever been in her diary during the time her daughter was missing. There wasn't a lack of non-physical evidence tying her to the crime. Despite all this, not only was she only charged with four counts of misleading police, a judge overturned two of those counts.
4 likesYou can call it a lynching if you want but it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that this was in fact a miscarriage of justice.
@Tim E Is your point literally just "The jury didn't think she was guilty."?
0 likesDuckman1616 No. Other commenters are acting like just because some of us don’t believe the prosecution did enough to convict Anthony, that we somehow find Anthony innocent of any wrongdoing.
2 likesIt’s possible to simultaneously believe that Anthony killed her daughter and believe that the prosecution didn’t present a strong enough case.
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0 likes@A B Agree! And also, if she was abused by her father, how come he never was charged for that?
1 likeI just cannot wrap around my head how the hell the jury found her not guilty? After all the lies? Mind no direct evidence. Her lying about a bunch of stuff and not being worried are FIRM EVIDENCE! Right? This case always makes me so damn angry!
@El Astronaute karma doesn't exist
1 likeEl Astronaute true. There is no such thing as justice, it’s all based on who ya know, how much money you have, and whatever mood the judge is in that day
0 likes100 fucking percent
0 likes@Bea I. Engio I'm pretty sure the United States can still sue, no? From what I've heard, if the state sues and loses, they can still be charged if a federal charge came in (even if basically the same). Not a lawyer but isn't this how it works?
0 likesSlavery was a thing you know that right
0 likes@Andrius B I don't think the govt. can sue, can they?? A civil case could maybe be brought by the grandparents (Or anyone closed to the child) for her wrongful death. Problem is that its difficult to determine what types of damages are plausible. I think that pretty much only actual damages are permitted (like lost income, property damage or medical costs) plus a few hard to prove exceptions. As Caylee wasnt living with her grandparents or contributing to incomes, I can't see any damages being awarded for the loss of her company, or her present monetary value. Besides, even if it was viable, the grandparents may not want to sue their insolvent daughter; it all seems rather pointless and heartwrenching all over again. (Ps I might be talking ass, I'm not a US lawyer either (I did a law degree in the UK, but followed a different career).
0 likes@Bea I. Engio actually I'm almost 100% sure now because I just remembered that FPSRussia got sued by the state, won the case and then the federal government came in with the same charge and more and made him take a plea agreement.
0 likesTim Tim because if she is capable of having such disregard for her child, She is capable of anything. But the source that said that she slept with her lawyer with somebody that worked in the office that walked in on them, not Casey
0 likesNot really. There's plenty of them that are worse, in fact it's basically impossible for a "not guilty" hearing to be a big miscarriage.
1 likeit's almost like there are.... billions of people on earth, and billions more in history, and almost all of them lived under judicial systems that were far more brutal and irrational than the current ones in the US or similar countries.
Hell has a special place for anyone that hurts a child but when a parent hurts there own child Satan will have fun with them. And anyone that would try to defend someone as guilty as this piece of crap they will burn in hell with them
3 likesIt's like they found the 12 stupidest people in the state and put them all on a jury.
1 likeNot by a long shot. History spans back quite a while.
0 likes@Lord Edward You are so right, This EVIL THING should be behind bars. The jury got this so wrong, After finding out the things that weren't admissible in court and after they found out, The jury has to live with themselves knowing they let a murder walk free.
0 likes@Type Name Here That doesn't happen in the U.S. If you're acquitted, the case is over.
0 likesI understand that the lack of evidence , however I dont understand how some people, with less evidence compared to her, still get sentance, I understand that it was because how good her lawyer is but it really make you think about the people that are innocent, but dont have such a good lawyer that still get sentence, compared to people with a decent amount of evidence atleast compared to my previous statement , are set free because they have better lawyer, I feel like even if she didnt have enough for her daughter murder, shouldn't she have been charged with child neglect, which you can argue lead to her daughter death, with the current absolute evidence?
1 likeOur court system is a disgrace. Innocent people go to prison while guilty go free. Often it's our own idiots we live with our own dimwitted shit headed ridiculously stupid fellow citizens sitting in these as jurors.
0 likesWe're reflection of our own stupidity. And it makes me so sick to my stomach.
@B Lane we talking about casey what trump ans slavery got to do with this ? 😄
1 likeLord Edward very poor choice of words
0 likesand o.j. trial under that....
0 likesLord Edward z
0 likesnonsense
0 likesI agree and hopefully Lori Vallow will not have the same fate.
0 likesAs bad as it was, on the other hand it only involved one person and one death. The US government has been spying on its citizens and setting up illegal, classified judicial decisions, completely bypassing democracy, and half the public is convinced that the whistleblowers who revealed that information deserve life in prison or death. This is the tip of the iceberg; on the largest scales there is no justice anymore.
2 likes@El Astronaute that's his job and a very good job he did and there was reasonable doubt as the evidence was mostly circumstantial he did a fantastic job.
0 likes@Tony Howell is there proof of that?
0 likes@Reconsider your position but the thing is you can't say who did it either you have no actual proof. So your message is a bit contradictory.
0 likes@David Sallas you believe in hell? Wow
0 likes@Path of Phobos blood stains, that they didn't try get DNA from?????? Strange
0 likes@K Mc D He did a great job as a defence lawyer, the problem is, did he believe it
0 likes@El Astronaute There are also witnesses from Jose Baez's cabinet who said Baez KNEW where Caylee's body was for weeks before the police actually found her, and he didn't say anything just to cover Casey's ass.
0 likes@Nora Girl Is that what he told you? Did Casey tell you? How do you know that's true? Rumors.
0 likesMaybe ot happened who knows. I don't
I heard OJ Simpson has sworn that he is going to find Caley's real killer as soon as he tracks down whoever killed Ron and Nicole and brings them to justice.
0 likes@wulfgar3000 Yes for sure but this one was a close second!
0 likesLord Edward not really The prosecutors fucked up this whole case that’s all
0 likesAmber’s ALERT’s The DA fucked up this case from day one and yeah her lawyer capitalized on that
0 likesGlennandrews that’s what I have been saying all along the DA messed up the case👍👍👍
0 likesno it isn’t. george floyd...breanna taylor... tamir rice
0 likesJoe Mann Sounds like bull. You don’t need experts to say “not guilty” or “guilty”... Come on.
0 likesAlex what justice. it’s a triumph for her. she got away with murder.
0 likesLife will strike harder next time god will not let this go the proof will come
0 likesShe wants alcohol and party more than her daughter so let's see what she will do next
The power of white women tears
0 likesFemelyn D Casey should be in prison right now. Like this actually makes me sick
0 likesCedella Watson repubs getting away with murdering children smh
0 likesIs there a single republican that doesn’t have an agenda?
Yes it was. Parents helped get her off, jury wanted to go home and let her go, and no one, no one cared about Caylee.
0 likesKookla Mu
0 likesUnfortunately,
None of that proves she’s a murderer. Just a crappy person.
@El Astronaute A shred of reasonable doubt is all they needed .
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0 likesYes!
0 likes@Drowning Lemming this is the definition of injustice. Just cause you've got a slick lawyer and win doesn't render it just.
0 likes@Dynamite Donald is that you?
0 likes@Video et Taceo Insurance companies daily kill people thanks to slick lawyers that find reasons for them not to payout medical claims or provide help, yet no one seems to care and calls it "thats just business". Well this is just business as well and she is as innocent as all those insurance company execs.
0 likesWhat do you expect from a country where greed is more important than life!
0 likesEmily Jones of England
0 likesOJ says hi...again
0 likesHahahahahaa just come to latinoamerica
0 likesWait a minute, her parents threw her a party as if she graduated when she didnt? Her parents have been feeding this behavior her whole life.
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Yes they have and they know and her brother knows she killed her child
34 likesIt's time Cindy and George (especially) are given a much overdue rest from everything that CASEY did. They went through hell. Pure hell. Casey killed Caylee not her parents. Casey deserves to face justice and maybe she won't ever in this lifetime but there will come a day she will stand and face what she did.
33 likes@Floris M well idk , as individuals we can outgrow the things our parents teach us whenever we become consciously aware that it’s wrong, at some point she CHOSE to be the way that she is
13 likes@Marisa Rangel not really, everyone’s just a product of their environment if you think about it deeply for a second, but that may be beyond you 👀
2 likes@WittyVampire738 you come from a certain environment and still chance your behavior lmao trust me i’ve thought very hard about it, at some point the parents aren’t responsible for any decision that person makes , environment can only have so much of an impact before society starts to make an impact on the development of that person, therefore giving them room and an outlet to see and seek a different way of living away from their own. ive been studying this im college for 2 years im pretty sure it’s not beyond me but good try :)
4 likes@I Boop Your Nose glad you express this. Not enough people on here are compassionate enough to realise its not her parents' fault
2 likes@Marisa Rangel - Amen to that!
0 likes@WittyVampire738 - Well Floris, it's like this: environment is only one contributor. Your comment reeks of tunnel vision and sarcasm. No really! It totally does. Sorry not sorry.
0 likes@Marisa Rangel - You got it right! I'm sure swarms of people agree with you including me! ♡
2 likes@Floris M - Hold up Dr. Phil, I mean Floris. It's apparent to me that you have chosen your narrow position in this matter. That's your prerogative. Sooooo go have a Coke or maybe some meditating and relax. Or not.
0 likes@I Boop Your Nose Are you a politician? Because you use a lot of words while saying not so much. My point stays the same, i agree that it is not fully her parents fault but they shurely had a big part in it.
1 like@I Boop Your Nose i'm not kamal btw
0 likes@I Boop Your Nose i too think their intentions where good btw. But this doesn't change a thing
1 likeyeah,like, obviously she should be held accountable for being evil, but also, it makes you really think about how important good raising is. if a child goes their whole life never getting shown that there are consequences for doing bad things, then they'll have to face the brutal reality as an adult. i don't wanna say it was "the parents fault" but there is no doubt that if her parents treated her wrongdoings with consequences, she probably would've handled the whole situation differently.
2 likes@Floris M feeded isn't a word clown
0 likes@Grimey 420 thanks for the feedback, i have some for you aswel. When you go insulting a foreigner for a grammar mistake instead of defending your point of view with arguments you are the clown. I'm quite shure you don't speak 3 languages
0 likesher mom starts crying when she lets slip she knows caylee is gone when she says "caylee was so lucky to have had you guys as grandparents." she won the battle but she didnt win the war. the ones that know, know.
0 likesThanks God, where I live there is no such a stupidity as a jury
0 likesCindy Anthony: "Whats your gut telling you?"
0 likesCasey: "You dont wanna know."
How in the world did she ever get away with this?
0 likesI have nothing to say except that this way of verdict was the result of a group's less efficiency as compared to the other.
0 likesAlthough I am not trying to blame anyone, i just want myself to make this verdict a benchmark to recall for whenever I do stuff in a less efficient way, when doing that in the best possible way can procure the greater good.
That how my inefficiency can lead to disasters
Your daughter’s blood cries out to God from the ground, Casey…
1 likeDet. Allen is a pro alright. He got her to say that she lied
2 likesI think she died in a accidental drowning but the dad used to molest her and knew the cops would uncover that during the autopsy so manipulated Casey into taking this whole scheme cause she was already tapped and a horrible mother.
0 likesSo they found her in the pool and taped her mouth and nose?
1 likeAnd the jury had no thoughts about it?
Wait... is she free?! WTAF, I can't believe it. What about the photos if her dancing, or the diary... or the browser searches? I'm heartbroken.
1 likeThis case was so disgusting just disgusting! The judge, jury and Attorney was disgusting just sick!!! This case literally made me sick to my stomach and I will never forget get it poor baby girl 🥺 How could you be a mother and have no remorse for your own daughter and to be able to kill her and then the State of Florida let her get away with it!!! Literally walk from this I will never forget watching it on TV disgusting!
0 likesI was waiting for the defense lawyer to kiss Casey on the lips when the jury didn't find her guilty!!!
0 likesBro, what a stupid trial it was:)))
Hope they all rot in hell!
WOW ... can't help it .... this lady makes me think of AH !!! But at least JD only has a severed finger and got away with LIFE !!! Poor girl .... Human kind can be such Monster, independent of gender !!!
1 likeParents put up all the money for Caylee, because they desperately wanted to know what really happened to her, but instead Casey got the money and threw the parents under the bus. Casey took their granddaughter from them and all their money, then rode off in the sunset. Dosent matter if the attorney got the money, may as well say Casey did.
0 likescredit where credit is due, that attorney is an absolute goat at what he does
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As mad as i am right now i have to agree
0 likesI still hope to turn on the TV one day and see that she was "exported off world" by a law abiding citizen.
0 likesI will never understand how this woman was found not guilty. I guess never underestimate being a white and pretty woman…
0 likesThe story her attorney put up made no sense, given it was the grandparents who alerted the police in the first place. The nail in the coffin was ultimately Cindy Anthony refusing again to let her daughter pay the consequences of her own actions
0 likesIf Casey Anthony and Jodi Arias were in a “who is the best, most believable”, lying competition who do you think would win?
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Well the one other one got sentenced, the other is scot-free. There's your answer.
0 likesThis is why I am for abolishing the double jeopardy law. There should be a cap of at least three jeopardies.
1 likeShe is a very skilled liar and manipulator….she was absolutely involved in some way with whatever happened to sweet little Caylee…
0 likesHow the actual hell was she found not guilty ??? There was soooo much piled against her and it was obvious. Such a slap in the face to her daughter.
0 likesHad this been a father he would’ve probably been sentenced to death :|
1 likethis case proves that truth and justice can be twisted by an intelligent awyer,, that even if the truth is shouting at ur face,, that's why lawyer is the most evil profession,,
0 likesLee saw her for what she was lol. This is such a insane case especially now that im old enough to understand it. What a psycho
0 likesDid I miss something? The child died in the pool and her mother gagged her and dumped her in the forest, lied to police and gets away free?
0 likesoh God, I'm just laughing historically at the moment saying "if anything happens to that baby" a couple months in.... delusional much
0 likesTold ya clubber I could not believe how single minded a women can get when another is telling her she is hot just to get laid and it keeps happening this is ridiculous she obviously thinks she is above it and as guilty as hell she would have pushed the button if she was Putin's wife " no club no world "
0 likesI hope the terrible jury sees these videos.
2 likesOnce again, lying got her out of facing the consequences of her actions. What a disgrace. And the saddest thing of all, her parents enabled it the entire time because it’s what they’ve done her entire life.
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you think lying was the only reason she got off? Lol
13 likesShe’s pretty privileged. Kinda scary huh?
41 likesIt's disgusting how she threw her father under the bus with molestation claims just to get away with murdering her daughter. What the hell kind of people is this family made of?
81 likesHer father knows damn well what happened to that baby. He and Casey were both in on it
5 likesNo they called the police when they knew something wasn't right so they might of not been perfect but they are not evil ...my opinion
9 likes@avenger31X OJ got off on his celebrity status
15 likesPrivilege got her off
6 likesHow did they enable it after their arrest if they were the ones who called the police and kept pressuring Casey to tell the truth?
0 likesLiars slip up eventually,
0 likesCasey would fit naturally in to the management culture of corporate America. They're absolute experts at making confident assertions with the utmost assurance, even when they have no intention of following through. Yet her prior work experience was hawking photos at the end of an amusement park ride? Where did she get it? She's brilliant.
0 likesI get the reasonable doubt but they proved the child neglect when she didn't even try to find her daughter that had been missing for 30 days then lying to police which in it self was abstracting the search.
0 likesI’m only halfway thru but with all the lies she’s been caught in so far I’m confused how she was found not guilty
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She’s white, her dad is a cop, and she’s white.
0 likesWhy cant they find her guilty?
2 likesand all she's doing when she's crying when her parents are visiting her in jail is crying for herself cuz she realizes what a mess she has made of her life. She doesn't want to lose her freedom. She's not worried about Kaylee
0 likesTextbook COVERT NARCISSIST!
0 likesThis is exactly how aware these women are of what is acceptable and not.
And they know how to get away with anything and mostly from shifting blame and having all the mannerisms of innocence, so they can play the victim card. It is never their fault nor doing... But they are aware of every wrongdoing they have done!
a complete lapse in the US justice system as per usual.
0 likesI feel so bad for her parents.
0 likesWhat a horrible case. She kills her child, then she and the defence add to the grandparents' grief by accusing her dad of sexual abuse. That is deplorable.
1 likeShe's a little high above the eyes, and narrow between the ears. Also it looks like her ears are lower than her eyes possibly, which is a good indicator of evil.
0 likesHow did she get innocent from the jury ??? I’m not familiar with this case is there a full documentary out there? Either way she’s out free and it irritates me that there were so many lies and she’s out free. I’d like to watch the case to fill in the blanks because so far this is a joke and it seems she got away with murder.
0 likesSo she doesn't get convicted, started dating the lead investigator in her case. Wants to have another kid, is sure she's ready for another child & started a book about HER STORY. So like Michelle Carter she'll get rich from murdering I mean being a "victim"
0 likes3:37 one of many pictures with a bruise on that baby's face 😔
She's a vindictive narcissist. How was that not clear to the jury?
1 likeJeffrey Hopkins: “More or less, acquaintances.”
0 likesCasey Anthony: “welp..”
Omg 😳 they threw her father under the bus 😱 I’m shocked 😮
0 likesFun fact: the only person who was tried again after being found innocent in their first trial was Harry "The Hook" Aleman, a notorious Chicago Outfit enforcer. He was a member of the Cicero Street Crew under Joe Nick Ferriola but couldn't become a made man because he was Mexican on his father's side. He was suspected of 13 murders and reportedly "oozed menace". His mere presence was enough to enforce the Outfit's will. He was tried under RICO and received 13 years for a series of home invasions, but before that he killed his brother-in-law Billy Logan because he severely beat his wife, Harry's sister. After his release from prison in 1989, he was tried with Sal DeLaurentis, Bobby The Gabeet Bellavia, Rocky Infelice and several others in The Good Ship Lollipop case and re-sentenced to life imprisonment in the Logan murder. He died in prison in 2010 at the age of 71.
0 likesI just seriously can't believe this there's literally INNOCENT people rotting in jail while the ones who deserve are walking free I officially lost hope in humanity
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Very true!
3 likesI wonder if she was excommunicated by her family for her accusations against her father
8 likesThis is why I hate criminal lawyers. They bend and make up arguments reasons to help criminals scoot free.
10 likes@S.Kumars that's the point
3 likes@Acid Daddy good looking? 😭💀
10 likesOr for stupid ass "crimes" like painting a wall, not being able to afford fees or possessing or selling weed
7 likes@S.Kumars whats a criminal? everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Justice is just a pretty word we humans made up. There is no right or wrong. Justice doesnt exist , its all in our head . it. Its the prosecutors job to proove the defendants guilt beyond a reaosnbale doubt , which in this case he clearly failed to do which is why the defense team deserved to win.
2 likes@leons be no right or wrong? That totally avoids commonsense
2 likes@Darth Dorito -Spicyflav. ok who or what is the objective observer that determines what is "Right" and what is "wrong"? Its all subjective and relative.
0 likesHe who lies best, lies freely
1 like@Acid Daddy "female privilege"? You're joking, right?
1 likeThe Innocents are kept in incarceration when the criminals are set free. Judicial formula is: Wrong + Wrong = power.
1 likeJustice goes to the highest bidder
1 like@Acid Daddy lol ok buddy. I think you're clearly the one here who needs some education.
0 likes@Acid Daddy no, Im gonna have to agree with you here... had she been a man she’d be rotting in jail
1 like@Acid Daddy she was able spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on her defense...
0 likesThis world is Hell. Crazy things are happening every day
0 likes@Acid Daddy her head looks swollen. Like a light bulb. Weird ssf
0 likesThat was the worst possible way this trial could've ended
1 likeYou don't admit to intentionally misleading investigators if your child is missing, and make up people and lies? Where was the forensic evidence? This is truly a shame. She should be in prison.
0 likesThe fact that she waited a whole month to utilize police to find her DAUGHTER is sooooo fing dumb. Like cmonnnn
1 likeugh the way she talks with the detectives considering the context really makes my skin crawl
0 likesWill this case ever be re-opened? If not for morality, it would make the Modern American Justice system look more competent after losing face to this video (As they should! She should have never been let free)
0 likesAmber heard must have been her lying teacher,cuz she a horrible liar...
3 likesThis just makes no sense!! It’s been determined that her daughter drowned and she decided the best thing to do was duck tape her nose and mouth, wrap her in a blanket, put her in a laundry bag, then dump her in a swamp?! She should of at least been charged for how she violated her daughters corpse!! There is overwhelming evidence against her, but because they can’t perform a proper autopsy that makes her innocent?! Fucking ridiculous….
0 likesI'm dont even have kids and this case still piss me off she lied multiple times and for a month she never reported her kid missing the fact hes not in jail is a joke
0 likesShe lied about the how she met the fake babysitter and made up a whole fake identity...and she didn’t get convicted?
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The lawyer mind controlled the jury with that speech, that's why he decided to talk last.. it's all about psychology. Those lawyers know when they are defending murderers, but they still do.. The best ones are sociopathic, they don't feel empathy so it's way easier for them to sail through such a whirlwind of emotions
222 likes@FrxBass they don’t care about the case but more of their reputation, if they made this jury be fooled then they can make any jury a fool
77 likes@FrxBass You cant mind control smart people, so we know how bad this jury was, well it was florida.
110 likesThe jury was just gullible and pathetic.
65 likesProsecution argued Casey planned to kill Caylee.
50 likesBut a lack of evidence showing it.
Juries can think the person is guilty, but you have to go by the evidence presented. Showing that Caylee's death was premeditated beyond a reasonable doubt wasn't cut and dry.
Was Casey responsible? Yes, but maybe for just negligence and involuntary manslaughter I would see if I was on the jury.
@freedomisfromtruth yup 🙁
0 likes@Ryan Blanche i can't wrap my head around this! everything from the search history to the state they found the victim's body in points to a homicide and yet we can't pin it down? this is a case of the jury being swayed by the lawyer with that really impressive closing statement. Casey, in my opinion, definitely needed to be convicted. She definitely murdered the baby, and she definitely regretted it, but only because she couldn't take it back. Only because she dug herself a hole that she needed someone else to dig her out of.
35 likesI think the brilliance of Jose Baez' closing statement is that he frames the case in a way that makes any guilty verdict seem biased and unjust- this was addressed by the narrator, Baez evokes empathy from the jury while condemning the prosecution's alleged (According to Baez) attempt to evoke anger at the Defendant. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like in that situation I would have seen straight through it. I understand the point Baez makes about proving there was intent and as you say, premeditation, but ultimately, the Jury's call is still theirs to make, right? I think having the information that they did, a guilty verdict was inevitable, until Baez' closing statement. If you disagree, or think that Casey is truly innocent of murdering her daughter, I'm really interested in hearing your perspective on this!
That's amazing. I'm amazed.
1 like@R P Hey, I'm just stating what the facts are. As someone above me also said, Jose Baez, Casey's defense lawyer's closing statement helped seal the deal.
16 likesEven members of the jury themselves, despite also thinking she was responsible in a way, felt there wasn't enough solid evidence for 1st Degree / Premeditation.
@FrxBass Defence ALWAYS talks last. Nothing he "decided", that´s court rule. District attorney is the first one, then Defence lawyer, EVERY SINGLE TIME!!
7 likesAs I told my husband, after she waited 31 days & was forced into a conversation with the police... I was over her... Whatever happened to Casey, she did it
7 likes@xyz001 Not always the case.
1 likeRemember Darlie Routier and Susan Smith? Both are in jail for murdering their children.
I'm actually impressed...she really just thought one day 'you know what? f*ck parenting i gonna kill Caylee and if anyone ever ask i'll say some nanny stole her or whatever...'
12 likesAnd she freaking pull it off.
Same can be said for her lawyer. He knew the girl looked like a total psycho, never reported the disappearance, lied to the police, her car smelled dead...so just to fill in with something he goes 'well she may have killed her i won't say no, but do you have any proof? no? well then be respectful and stfu'
And he won the case 0 charges for totally neglecting, obstruct the investigation and possibly murdering a baby.
I think he was holding a laugh in the final interview.
After the trial, the jury foreman made it clear in a press conference that they all knew she was guilty, but the state failed to prove their case. They proved that the child was dead, and had been in the trunk of her car, but did not prove WHO killed her. As well as Casey, blame should be placed with the prosecuter.
11 likes@Swervin309 Wasn’t there an incestous molestation allegation made against George as well?
1 like@Ryan Blanche I believe so, but I don't think that had any relevance.
1 like@Swervin309 Yeah, that was a pretty dumb thing to do. May have helped cost the prosecution their case.
1 like@freedomisfromtruth you can manipulate smart people. Just saying “muh Florida” means nothings to anyone who knows that.
1 like@freedomisfromtruth there are different intelligences that each person can possess. Simply saying “you can’t mind control smart people” is pathetic
1 likeI think it's because the jury had a reasonable doubt that she didn't kill her daughter but instead seriously neglected her or even gave her to someone else who ended up killing her. They weren't able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she committed murder, only that she lied about her involvement and made up people to push the responsibility on. The Jury didn't know if she was the one to commit the murder or if she was just an accomplice, just because we in hindsight have the facts laid out clear doesn't mean the jury saw the same thing. She wasn't being charged with something the Jury saw as reasonable, since it was a murder charge and not perjury or criminal negligence. She should get a re-trial but the possibility of that happening is sadly low, and this cold monster will hopefully be seen as what she is for the rest of her life.
3 likesGod damn this woman to hell for what she did to HER CHILD
0 likesLying is not a crime
0 likes@Singwhiledrunk PS4 and XBOX ONE more like what she didn't do, but ok, whatever you say
0 likesIt's about psychology, calculation and dancing with lions
1 like@Ryan Blanche
1 likeIt was in the video.
@FrxBass I mean didn't she sleep with her lawyer or something?
0 likes@Boujee’s World 💖 That moment when you Google "British English" and discover that 'defence' is not only a correct spelling of the word, but that it actually predates the American English spelling of the exact same word (defense.)
2 likesIt boggles my mind how many judgmental people there are who look at this video (a video presented with perfect clarity and 20/20 hindsight) and then loudly proclaim that "lawyers are soulless" or " the jury is stupid" or "I woulda shot her" etc etc etc. Try putting yourself in that jury's shoes. They DIDN'T know all that we know. They DIDN'T have all the facts. And considering the statistics of how many innocent people are projected to be in jails (2.3%-5% of all inmates in the US alone - 57,500 to 115,000 people) condemning another person to jail wrongfully is a very real concern.
And as for the lawyers, every person is entitled to a vigorous defence (and yes, that's not a typo) provided by either a lawyer of their choosing or a public defender. And lawyers who defend clients are required BY LAW to provide the best possible defence they can. Give their client the best possible chance of going free. That is literally THEIR JOB. A lawyer that half-asses their defence just because popular opinion agrees that their client 'did it' would be disbarred immediately. And considering the exorbitant costs of law school (and university on top of that) no lawyer is going to consider risking their entire career and livelihood just because everyone agrees that their client is 'guilty as sin.'
Hating on lawyers who help people like Casey Anthony go free is one of the highest forms of hypocrisy. Because who's to say that YOU won't wind up in front of a judge, with the whole world saying you're guilty and a lawyer who decides to sabotage your defence because he secretly agrees with the court of popular opinion? Bet you'll have a different opinion of lawyers then.
So, to sum up, for all you lawyer haters and judgmental people, I leave you with a quote from (of all places) the Bible: "Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you." (Matthew 7: 1-2.)
@Raigen Huss
0 likesActually, Casey Anthony WAS convicted... of lying to police. Which, of course, is a crime.
Of course, Casey would lie to police. She knew she was suspected of killing her daughter.
But strange how the jury would convict her of lying to the cops but acquit her of murder.
Its a sick world
0 likes@freedomisfromtruth ofc I mean look at the evidence and I don't understand there were evidence that she wasn't searching for her child bcuz she was partying and the her search history and the lying to everyone the lack of emotion when it came to her daughter how could anyone be so foolish to just let that slide?
0 likes@Ryan Blanche was it true that her main cause of death was drowning or suffocation?
0 likes@A. J. let's all say what we know she prob regretted it but the only thing she really cared about wasn't her daughter but was for her not to be locked up and to have her freedom.
1 like@Ryan Blanche but still the fact remains that she lied about most of the things she said to the authorities and instead of searching for her daughter she was out partying even if she did know she died is that how a grieving mother behaves? she is cold-hearted and ruthless
1 like@R P Your are ignorant to the court system and the law. It's a form of checks and balances and protects the rights of those who are innocent until PROVEN guilty. They couldn't prove that Casey committed pre-meditated murder even if its very likely. Was she guilty of lying under oath? Yes. Was it extremely likely that she had anything to do with her child's murder? Yes. However this is not the exact conviction that the prosecution chose to pursue.
0 likes@Aurelia
0 likesIt is when it's under oath. It can also be considered hindering an investigation in some states.
@Aurelia That just means you don't value intuition or wisdom. Casey is very smart, manipulative, etc. However, she isn't able to recognize based on experience (often a driving factor of how wise someone may be), and is in denial that she can't weasel her way out. This could be considered a move that is "not smart" because she should be doing everything she can to not incriminate herself instead of trying to build a web of stories that are inconsistent.
0 likes@Antony Duhamel Good defense lawyers complete the checks and balances of the courtroom. Lawyers exist to sort through legalities on behalf of their clients. All people good or evil are entitled to a defense lawyer. If the law is working as it should, a guilty person will still remain guilty and the lawyers will have done their job. After all the judge and the jury decide on if the person is guilty, we can't pre-determine guilt to decide if people should have a lawyer. That would defeat the purpose of the most fundamental of American rights. So I'm with you.
0 likesMerica!
0 likesKarma is worse than a life sentence 🙃.. just wait on it lol
0 likesThis is insane so basically what her lawyer did was make people feel sorry for her by saying that her father abused her and that made her mentally unstable what the fuck🤦🏾♀️ at the end of the day at some point in your life even if you’ve been through something like this I’m not a therapist or anything I’m just speaking from my heart and what I feel I think she would have at least wanted to protect her child instead of harming the child considering all that she had been through if that was even true which I truly highly doubt it I mean this young lady took police to a job she no longer even worked and then laughed about it like I don’t understand the system is really fucked, twisted, Lord help us help America this is really awful but trust and believe me she may have gotten away with murder but she has not gotten away at all I assure you the good Lord wii definitely take care of her she’s definitely already certain it’s a lifetime in hell Hell definitely has a special space for her the story actually makes me wanna throw up I’m so heartbroken for that poor baby i’ll give you guys a prime example of what I mean by she wouldn’t want to protect her child take me for instance I’m just deslxss I have a hard time reading and spelling no matter how hard I try I can never get it right at some point that was actually my biggest fear of anyone even finding out and when I had my first daughter I was so scared that she would turn out like me I thought maybe my condition is hereditary or something so I turned my whole living room into a library and pushed my daughter to extreme limits today my little girl is 15 all students and from the time she was about three or four she was reading Harry Potter books and people always ask me how old she was when they see her reading certain books on the train there like how is she able to do that and I will smile and say just practice but they had no idea just how bad I pushed her all because I didn’t want her to turn out like me and today she looks at me as though I am her biggest hero I’m stuck working bullshit jobs all because of my condition that was undocumented properly when I go to take a city service exam test I don’t have adequate time I need in order to even stand a chance I have to compete on the same level with people who have no disabilities people don’t understand how serious this condition truly is because people like me find ways to get by in life that includes taking bullshit jobs like security so long story short because I wanted to protect my child I pushed her and pushed her and pushed her until I couldn’t push anymore And I kid you not I have no regrets my daughter is incredibly smart and now she helps her 2 & a half-year-old sister😊
0 likes@Somerset Young wtf you are talking about? If that was the case, she wouldn't duct tape her mouth and nose. She obviously killed her.
0 likes@Ryan Blanche isn't that under like entirely different circumstances
0 likes@kai What do you mean?
0 likesShe slept with the attorney and he got her off!
1 like@Somerset Young yes and I have a Nigerian uncle who has a fortune set aside for you, please just message me your SSN, bank account info and mother's maiden name
0 likes@Aurelia Yes it is. It's called perjury
0 likes@Shinobi Firecracker lmao no she wasn't. Maybe watch the video dummy
0 likes@FrxBass yeah lawyers piss me off. When a case is clear it will just keep getting re trialed
0 likes@Fresh Air lawyers don't get to pick if cases get a retrial. That would be like blaming a surgeon for doing surgeries
0 likesMust have been a FAKE Court,with a make believe trial because it was an unimaginative outcome...I still cannot figure this one out,you know,at a loss.
0 likes@FrxBass lawyers job is to win the case, they will use whatever means necessary within the boundaries of the law. It takes quite the character to be a criminal defense lawyer.
0 likesDid the Jury forget that Casey was lying to the detectives and she was probably lying about her defense she knows she’s guilty
0 likesShe's trying to tell her story on a documentary now, literally trying to make a profit off of murdering her daughter
0 likesI reckon husband was also involved in this,there is literally no other way this happening outside his knowledge
0 likesKasey might not have murdered Her daughter, but she knows who did! She knows the truth . On just that fact she is guilty. What mother in the world would let their child be missing for over 30 days and then lie and lie and lie and lie.
1 likeJust imagine her attitude towards everything after she got away with this. This woman walks around in the world KNOWING that she has gotten away with literally everything she has done wrong in her life - including killing her daughter. Just imagine everything she has probably done since 2008.
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Even if she didn't directly kill her daughter, everything else you wrote here stands. I just read that she said in a recent interview that "she wants more kids". That is even more haunting than her actual not guilty verdict.
236 likesAgree, imagine her attitude towards life since then. She knows there are literally no consequences to anything... What's particularly disturbing is how many men who have willingly hooked up with this creature since then, with full knowledge of what she's done & what she's capable of. Can't say I have much sympathy for them when she inevitably wrecks their lives.
103 likesI'm hoping some people immediately after that verdict was announced did some good ol fashion Vigilante Justice.
27 likesWell, she did spent 2 years in prison and will likely never hold a job ever again.
10 likes@Goingby20s It’s not like she ever kept a job anyway. Those 2 years must have felt like a spa for her.
67 likesShe had to have paid a lot of money and slept w the lawyers it's disgusting.
22 likes@Emma Gatewood No man who dated her ever got very serious with her leave alone having a child with her. Sex with a psycho can be fun. Even if the legal system let her off, society has other ways to punish those it deems guilty. I just feel sorry for her dad. His daughter just accused him of touching her to save her own skin. On the other hand serves him right for raising such a pathetic human being.
46 likesAnd her parents having a HS graduation party for her, and telling people she graduated with honors even though THEY KNEW she didn't graduate. WTF is that? And her father, during the jail visit, saying he wished he had been a better father and grandfather. And that BS about him molesting her. If her parents knew her lawyer was gonna spring that fiction, I bet they STILL would have supported her. What is their relationship now, if any?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
46 likes@Jennifer Nader idk, two years in a cell for someone used to partying all the time is a long time, but yeah, her punishment was too lenient, no doubt about it. But at least everyone knows her face and likely call her out everywhere, unless she changed her face somehow!
14 likesHopefully she avoided having any more children.... people of Casey Anthony's stripe should not have children.
10 likesShe used to
10 likesMake YouTube videos. And she said she doesn’t care what people think -she sleeps fine at night. She also said if caylee was alive she would be “kicking ass”
@George Xanthopoulos WHAT? Is she serious?
3 likes@Alyssa Dana If I was a sociopath I would sleep well too.
17 likes@Goingby20s I literally saw her at the bar last night(a monday night) and apparently she's there often. Just blending in with no repercussions.
4 likes@Alyssa Dana if you think that’s crazy, she now works as a social worker for underprivileged and abused minors
8 likes@Jennifer Shoffner wait for real?
2 likesjust remember there is consequences to everything cough HIV AIDS cough
3 likes@Emma Gatewood Out of all this, you're thought goes to the men who have slept with her since? I'm at a loss for words.
1 like@Jennifer Shoffner where was that?
3 likesRight
0 likesdont make me vomit... i want to vomit right now, you get punished more for random shit than murder in this shit criminal system
1 likeHer parents seemed really nice but they seemed like pushovers. Her mom knew immediately and didn't want to admit it to herself. They raised her, they know how she is, her dad didn't know but her mom did right away, poor woman... That moment you realize "my pride and joy is an absolute monster and a worthless human being", has to hurt so bad. Would be almost as bad as if they overdosed and died. Almost worse in some ways...
1 like@christine alessandrini that’s a bit of a stretch. Any like links or things to read that back up that ? Or just soley Bc she isn’t in jail right now she’s protected by the powers that be ?
0 likesShe lives in west palm beach which is where I live. She’s ALWAYS downtown west palm partying.
3 likes@Lily Reyes downtown west palm beach. I've actually seen her a handful of times now...laughing about how some girl wanted to fight her once. She lives off the attention.
0 likesThose lawyers gotta be disbarred this case was a slam dunk and they air-balled it
1 likeEvery one knows Casey killed her daughter. There is so much against her.
0 likesAmerican jury system is hilarious
4 likesI'm listening/watching this story for first time ever not finished but right away I can tell she did something g
0 likesI still can’t believe she got away with this. It makes me sick to my stomach that she can roam around free with no consequences.
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@Scott Fennell She's a woman... There is always a simp in denial. Especially if emotionally abused.
7 likes@tookTAKtook Z I love TikTok though
2 likesNA Justice
0 likesThat’s what makes psychopaths so dangerous. They often deceive people far too easily, because we decide by emotional and appearance factors rather then by pure evidence or logic.
0 likesshe did spend more than two years in jail and her name is permanently ruined, so its not like there were no consequences at all.
1 likeLuna Alvarez I agree! And if she’s SO INNOCENT, are they trying to find the real killer? No. This whole case pisses me off.
1 likeWe'd like to see all the evidence you've gathered that proves she did it. You must be a massive psychopath to keep all this evidence of her guilt from the public.
0 likesWhisker Biscuit Casey Anthony is really on an alt account y’all 😂
1 like@Luna They can't prove she murdered the kid. Just because it's suspicious doens't mean she has to die. The prosecution failed if she was guilty.
0 likes@jackinthesack you have empathy and remorse, but not everyone has that.
1 like@smalls175 She's being protected by her own defense team.
0 likes@jackinthesack .Forgive yourself and set yourself free.. I'm sure he has
1 likeWhat saved Casey is a corrupted judiciary system, not this inhumane defence.
0 likesWhat innocent person would mislead the police in the search for their baby daughter ?
0 likesHow can I believe in a just world when this woman got found not guilty of this horror.
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You can’t.
0 likesHabla muy Bien y muy claro y no se cansa y no emociones... La Misma en Toda la conversacion.. no demuestra cansancio Nada... La voz es la Misma..
1 likeI don’t understand how there’s no evidence? She lied about EVERYTHING! Where her daughter was, there wasn’t even a nanny, that she still worked, the list goes on. This is in the most infuriating case! She is guilty, absolutely!
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they gave decision in favour of her just because they were angry at media trial.
8 likes@Sqwan2 First, there was evidence in this case. It just wasn't concrete enough for this jury I guess. Secondly, your examples are hilarious. Especially the first one, like what the fuck are you even talking about lmao.
106 likes@Zach L Name one piece of real evidence.
5 likesSqwan2 casey obviously didn’t blow up the moon wtf are you talking about “the moon isnt a star” so theres no evidence lmao
6 likes@ShelbyCookie2000 yes she is, but that doesn't mean that she murdered her. She is allowed to lie if she will incriminate herself otherwise. Negligent child abuse would be a crime. Especially if you try to cover it up. Also it is not her duty to assist the police in whatever task they might have todo. Just becuase she wasted police time doesn't mean she killed her child. 9 times out of 10 it is a good thing to was the time of police. In this time they cant harass innocent people or shoot black people in the back.
1 likeOf course she knew that her daughter was dead. But that doesn't mean she killed her. I also know that my grandma is dead, but I didn't kill her. Even though I was partying many many times since then. That is not how it works.
The defense presented an alternative explaination that the prosecutors could not disprove. This alternative explaination would also explain why she lied. The defense agreed that she certainly had some majors screws loose(but said it in a way that would sound more sympathetic) and disputed the cause of death. Given that Casey was really messed up it is reasonable to believe that she would have acted the same if her daughter had drowned in the pool due what is ultimately negligent behavior on her part.
2 likesThe fact that she lied was no more than circumstantialt evidence regarding the charge of murder. They only proved that she had something to hide, but offered no direct proof on Caseys involvement in Caylees death.
@Sqwan2 None of that is how the law works...
6 likes@clovery This is exactly how the law works. That's why this woman is free...
2 likes@Sqwan2 and she's a woman, there's that
2 likes@Krazy Reckz I must have missed the part where they said, that child murder is allowed if you are a woman.
5 likes@Sqwan2 Her conduct is absolutely bizarre following her daughter's death. She's out partying while Caylee rots in her trunk with duct tape on her mouth. And then she knows her daughter is dead and is lying out of her ass . Not to mention her callous reactions to her family and friends' concern over her missing daughter. This is not the behavior of an innocent person, and in almost every murder case ever, it incriminates the suspect. Also how the heck do you figure her Googling "foolproof suffocation" methods on the night Caylee disappeared is "not evidence"?
12 likesSimple explanation - The Jury's Dumb.
6 likes#merica
3 likes@Sqwan2 You should edit your comment to correct the mistakes.
0 likes@pinball1970 and she was found guilty of that correct?! Her lying and them able to prove she lied is evidence that she lied to the police...gave false information. Not at all is proof she murdered her child. Pretty simple.
0 likes@Bill the Fifth no, I also like them imprisoned, too. But not at all costs. I also like to be free myself. And the system is designed to protect that freedom. It is better to let 100 murderer slip than imprison one person falsely. This is meant to protect you. You shouldn‘t let your feelings take over. This can come back to you like a boomerang…
0 likes@Ted Lambert I don't know how the law works just some basics. I have been on jury service once and they said a guilty verdict has be beyond reasonable doubt via the facts of the case. The facts here, she admitted to dumping the body.
2 likesIf your child drowns you call an ambulance immediately. Even if the child is dead a mother in desperation calls 911 with a glimmer of hope?
She didn't do that, she dumped her in a swamp.
A distraught mother would then do what? Go partying? Write in her journal that she was happy? All the rest was a red herring so she would not get caught, the fabrication regarding the nanny and work colleagues.
When did the accidentally drowning story arise? After two years? Apologies I have forgotten some details.
She was in charge of that child who subsequently died and she got rid of the body. Two options, it was an accident or she killed her. I have no doubt she killed that kid.
@Sqwan2 I don't think feelings come into too much, we are not connected to the family. It is a tragedy yes.
2 likesI said the same to Ted Lambert.
The facts are the child died in her care and she then disposed of the body.
She then went out partying, wrote she was happy in her journal.
She is asking us the accept that is how a distraught mother would behave.
She googled suffocation and the recovered body had duct tape on the head? (I will watch it again, I can't remember all the details)
I do not accept her story the child died via accident. It is about plausibility and nothing in her story adds up.
What I don't know is if the jury were privy to details that JCS provided.
Perhaps not all those details were presented as evidence? Admissible?
@pinball1970 I don't say she is innocent. I also don't say, that everything went right. And I absolutely don't argue in favor of her.
0 likesI argue in favor of the law system. It is designed to protect innocent people risking to let a murderer slip. Considering that, I think the jury and the judge made the right decision. It isn't their mistake that a murderer maybe is free.
@pinball1970 Please don't waste your time on me. This discussion is intersting but for me not worth to watch it again.
1 likeBoth of us are civilised man. I think we can deal with other opinions without being offended.
If we were both in the jury we might have a discussion. But we would work that out. Most likely we would have much more information on the case. This video is about an hour long, so there are parts missing. Maybe I would be with you if I had all the evidence. From what I can see from the video, I think the jury and the judge did the right thing. The prosecutor didn't do his due diligence in my opinion. But I am also fine with yours.
@Sqwan2 Ok no problem. You presented a different view so I was interested. Peace fella (as we say in the UK, in Manchester at least!)
1 like@pinball1970 I hope you didn't get me wrong (I am not an native english speaker as you probably already guessed). I don't want to shut down the discussion if you are really interested in it. People on social media (including me) tend to overinvest just for the sake of argument. Most likely these arguments become very rude pretty soon. Just would like to prevent that.
1 likeI am also interested in your view. And maybe you can convice me.
@Sqwan2 No I hadn't guessed that English is not your first Lang. You are obviously intelligent! I need to watch again and more importantly find out which details were given to the jury.
0 likesThat is what is important for me.
I will check in soon mate.
@pinball1970 Well, when I was young I thought I wont need english ever again after school. So I attended english class mostly for the pursuit of chalk. That wasn't very smart. I had to learn english later in an evening class. I went to Ireland for a year to work there and get more fluent but my grammer and my spelling is still not that good. So I feel honored by the fact that you didn't guessed it :)
1 likeI really enjoy this conversation. It is nice to talk to someone on social media who is intelligent and well behaved as well.
@Sqwan2 I would suggest that you watch the infographics show. It has shown multiple cases of people being wrongfully convicted and given the death penalty(mainly people of colour) with little to no evidence. Based on the presentation here and the evidence shown to the jury, there was a high chance that she would be getting the death penalty in my opinion.
0 likes@Masroor Ahmad Bani Ah, because someone else had done stupid things in the past, we should repeat that as often as possible. This is a really special way of learning from mistakes in the past...
0 likes@Sqwan2 That's good thanks. Yes we learn more from each other being civil.
0 likesWhat is your native language? If I may ask?
@Sqwan2 I mean history does repeat itself and were all human. the american justice system has its flaws and the people on jury duty also might have a bias when it comes to someone who is white and female.
0 likes@pinball1970 My native language is german. Normally I keep that for me because americans tend to get biased (not to say racist) once they hear it. That can make a reasonable discussion pretty hard.
2 likes@Masroor Ahmad Bani This can happen, yes. But you have 12 people, choosen by both sides. In the USA all 12 people have to agree on the verdict or you have a "hung jury" (this is not uncommon). Also most americans are decent people.
1 likeIt doesn't prevent them from making a mistake, thats right. But we were not part of the trial. We have watched a video, carefully edited by a person with its own intentions, a person who also has an opinion. Even if the editor tried to make the video open minded (what I doubt, because youtube doesn't work like that, it works with echo chambers), it still mirrors his or her biases. So in doubt, I give the jury the benefit.
@Sqwan2 I agree with you on this one.
0 likes@Ted Lambert I watched it again. Some key things missing for me. I would have liked to have seen some of the cross examination. She did not actually tell police where the body was? Also no details about where how and why she dumped the body.
0 likes@Sqwan2 I have some good American contacts, I suppose they are like everyone else, some decent and others not so much.
0 likes@pinball1970 Of course most americans are decent and I had many nice discussions. Unfortunately the others make sure that they get noticed. It doesn't bother me anyways. It's just sad that the not so decent people often times destroy everything constuctive.
1 like@Sqwan2 As soon as someone reverts to insults you know the argument must be weak. Also the smart people ask questions, those who have made their minds up already will not learn.
0 likesThis case we have been talking about gets even more bizarre, law suits against Casey Anthony after the trial and details in the trial too. Her father got rid of the body??? She did not speak at the trial?
Very strange.
I don’t think you understand quite how the law works. Yes, she made up an entire persona for a nanny that never existed. But how is that evidence that she murdered her own daughter? She told the police that she worked somewhere that she didn’t. We know that’s a lie. But how is that evidence that she murdered her own daughter? We know that she lied to the police when she said that a work colleague had introduced this fictitious nanny to her. But how is that evidence that she murdered her own daughter? Are you seeing a pattern here? There is no evidence that she murdered her child. How are you not understanding that?
0 likes@Kevin Bolton Is this for me?
0 likes@Kevin Bolton I am totally ignoring the charade she presented. I am just focusing on the fact the child died in her care and was dumped in a swamp with duct tape round the head. Someone from her IPE googled suffocation the night before and then the kid was never seen again.
0 likesAs a parent, the absolute LAST thing I would do is dump my kid in a swamp after accidentally drowning, get a tattoo that life is beautiful, enter in my diary that it was 'the right decision' then go party.
She killed that kid and got rid of the body.
@pinball1970
0 likesAgain. E V I D E N C E!!!
A person cannot be found guilty of murder based on their internet search history, nor getting a tattoo, nor going out to a club.
I hope you are never allowed anywhere near a jury, as you simply don’t understand the concept of ‘evidence’.
@Kevin Bolton It's really not a good idea to speak to someone who you never met like that.
0 likesI just listed the facts.
READ my post
@Kevin Bolton I do understand the 'concept of evidence' I have a degree in applied Biology and use something called the Scientific method in my job. Empiricism. Something you may not be aware of.
0 likes@Kevin Bolton Curious, tattoo, partying etc not evidence. Yes. Why you miss duct tape out? Wrapped around the the nose and mouth?
0 likes@pinball1970
0 likesThat’s my entire point. These ‘facts’ you have listed, aren’t “evidence”.
@pinball1970
0 likesWhile it is true that duct tape around head is evidence of foul play, it is not e evidence that ‘she’ put it there.
Would you like to be convicted of murder because someone you knew was murdered and the prosecution argued that their hands were taped behind their back with duct tape, so that points to foul play, so that points to you.
@Kevin Bolton They ruled the death a homicide after the body was examined. One thing is certain there is an awful lot about this case that does not make sense.
1 likeCasey Anthony did not testify at the trial but her father did. My guess is they would be worried she would incriminate herself.
Her father denied abusing her so that story could be a crock as well.
Casey said in an interview recently that she did not know how Casey died, this was recorded and you can hear her say it. I'll try and post the link.
So the drowning story is definitely a crock.
Some of the lab tests were thrown in doubt regarding, traces of chloroform and gases relating to decomposing tissue. There were some major forensics fuck ups that that defense used to a non technical jury.
There were Google searches on 'Chloroform' and 'suffocation' on the home computer using Casey's id the days before that were attributed to Cindy the mother NOT Casey by the defense. Cindy was clocked in at work at the time the searches took place.
So how did she do the searches? She left work early. Sure they had an answer for everything but the jury was asked to accept some tall explanations.
They are looking to put forward a new law in some states as a result of this case. Relating to reporting a missing child.
@pinball1970
0 likesI agree that it’s obviously a homicide. But the OP was saying that the fact that she lied “is” evidence thst she did it, but those two things are unrelated. She seems to be of the opinion that just because someone can be proved to be a liar, they should automatically be found guilty of murder.
@Kevin Bolton I am not focusing on her lies, I don't need to prove she lied. I am looking at the body, evidence relating to that and plausibility of a two year old died accidentally dying in her mother's care then ended up in a swamp. The drowning was just another lie so what happened?
0 likes@Erica Bouchard I am not involved with law so I would be interested in a neutral qualified view on this from a professional.
0 likesAll my mates are STEM guys.
@Erica Bouchard It would be nice if the law protected two year olds who died in questionable circumstances first and foremost.
0 likes@pinball1970 I agree. We have Caylees law now which is 1 good thing that came out of this horrible event.
2 likes@Erica Bouchard Yes I read that.
0 likes@Erick Carriera Yeah, of course, there is a jury of 12 agreeing people, who are following the whole trial, but you are the lucky one who can do better from watching an 1 hour tape. What a masterpiece of Dunning Kruger...
0 likes@Nick Kromka she was in a bar fight nit that long ago 😂 it was in the news. A lady spilled her drink on her and Casey called the police... she calls the police when someone spills a drink on her but not when her daughter was missing smh 🤦 😒
1 like@Henrik Henrik here gets it
0 likesperfect explanation on the case
Also the post-mortem said she died of asfictiation then defence claim she drowned there was no evidence of the drowning beaten lie
0 likes@pinball1970 why the hell should you hide a body that Has drowned over a month ago?? You don't have to be a genious to make her look guilty
0 likes@Unknown Name Yes the drowning story was complete crock. She was interviewed recently and she claimed that she 'Did not know' what happened to Kaylee so all that nonsense was a lie in court.
0 likesThe abuse story was also contradicted by the father so that could have been bullshit too.
You have to have substantial evidence, not circumstantial. It's not what you know, it's what you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
0 likes@pinball1970 don't get me wrong I'm not saying there wasn't evidence. What I'm saying is there wasn't enough hard evidence to link Casey to the murder. Like I said, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. Was her behavior extremely suspicious, yes! But suspicion doesn't prove guilt. The prosecution didn't do the greatest job of linking the evidence to Casey. They made statements like, "Casey killed her then wrapped her in a blanket...." but didn't prove she actually did it. It's complicated and sad because this poor little girl didn't get the justice she deserved.
0 likesI'm not going to say my opinion on if Casey did it or not. Just wanted to explain a different way of looking at what the evidence actually told. Did it point to Casey as a suspect. YES. Did it prove she did it? Not in the way they presented it.
@Gamer For Life If I was on trial for my life I would take the stand. Obviously we are not seeing the full picture of how the evidence was presented.
1 likeWe are being asked (as a juror say) to accept her story. A drowning story that did not emerge for two years. Did she kill the child? No, the child was left alone for long enough to drown in a pool and somehow ended up in a swamp with duct tape wrapped around the head. I would have rejected that story and looked at the alternative. Murder.
We know the drowning story was made up as she said recently that she didn't know how she died. (Audio in an interview)
The father denied abusing her in the trial. There is absolutely nothing she said about that kid that was true.
Is there, video, DNA, eye witness evidence? No.
Her stories had zero evidence to support them so she either killed the child or knows who did.
@pinball1970 if I was on trial for my life, I would exercise my right to not have to take the stand. Can't punish someone for exercising their 5th Amendment right.
0 likes@Gamer For Life If you were innocent would you not want to put your version across?
1 like@pinball1970 innocent or not, I would exercise my rights.
0 likes@Gamer For Life I would not take that right from you.
1 like@Gamer For Life I don't think this story is over. Something will come out. Double Jeopardy law would prevent another trial from what I have read but this would not stop something incriminating coming out.
1 like@Sqwan2 ok, what about the duct tape on the remains of the girl? Isn't that alone is evidence enough?
0 likes@Sqwan2 according to your theories, EVERYTHING can be disputed and refuted. Even in your own example of someone seen at the crime scene - well, they just happened to be there.
0 likes@Надежда Неженка Yes, an that is done in courts all the time. A single piece of evidence is just evidence and no proof. You have to build a body of evidence that is large enough or strong enough to remove the doubt. Than it constitutes proof. And you need the proof for a conviction, not evidence.
0 likes@Sqwan2 Would you say with everything we know about this case, that Casey was innocent?
0 likes@Chakra_SSE With everything we know, no. She seems to be guilty. BUT, we don't know that much about the case AND my opinion doesn't really matter. If you think that, you have to make sure that you can proof it - so you must have evidence beyond reasonable doubt. And they messed that up, I think. If 12 people who are really in that case agree for not guilty, most likely the prosecutor messed up OR she is not guilty but sold as guilty.
0 likesYou know all those crazy stories of "Florida man" and the memes. Well I'm pretty sure the entire jury was full of "florida mans". The type that have been arrested for robbing a store with an alligator, or trying to buy food with monopoly money.
0 likesWhy all these cases involve journals, I always thought they were a thing in movies and people didnt actually document their everyday to day lives. ESPECIALLY if they were criminals
0 likesOf course she did it, isnt she at least guilty of misleading the investigators? she was caught in multiple lies, what an amazing legal system... Don't comit any crimes unless you got the money to pay for it, ffs what a joke
1 likeAll children deserve parents.
1 likeNot all parents deserve children.
I cannot with the lies, i dont know how the detectives are holding up..
1 likeThis woman has had a life time of not being held accountable for her actions. Mummy and Daddy let her get away with murder.
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Not that just any murder, the murder of their own flesh and blood. Sickening.
70 likes#Justice4Caylee
15 likesDrug dealers are given harsher prison sentences than murderers and rapists. Let that sink in...
76 likes@Shimmer Yes it's totally disgusting. I bet someone in prison now with a longer sentence than her for weed. Weed which is now legal in most parts of America. Americas legal system is insane.
32 likesYeah she was definitely that kid with no boundaries or discipline
8 likes@Sreenidhi Shukla I think it's probably true. Maybe the mum knew about it and not said anything. Would explain why she has a lack of empathy and love for her own child. She was probably blackmailing them to get her own way. "Hello gorgeous" is not the way you greet someone accused of murdering your grandchild. Something was very wrong with all of them. Yet all of them are free.
12 likes@N.A.C..80 Now that you point it out. Yeah. The 'hello gorgeous' was just not right. Would explain a lot of things too. Like why the parents covered up all of her mistakes. If her father could do that to her, I think he would do that to Kaylee too in the future. You're right. They're all weird.
8 likesThey didn't. Well, technically. They fed into it very much but, they still stood up when... their grandchild got kidnapped... and Cassey was... well it could have been worse? That's not helping their case much but they're not the worst here by orders of magnitude. They just... feel sweet yet... so... so... hah...
0 likes@Shimmer I see this narrative all the time, yet no one ever presents stats. Where are the stats and documents you guys get this info from? Or do you just get it off of social media and youtube videos? I'm not saying you're wrong, i'd just like some proof. It's no secret that innocent people go to prison and petty shit like selling weed accrues a ridiculous sentence, but the whole "murderers and rapists get off scot-free" seems disingenuous.
0 likes@Shimmer pretty dumb comment. Rape and murder as a single act has a more lengthy sentence than drug dealing.
0 likesTf are y'all on about, they clearly aren't on her side and from what I heard, to this day believe that she is guilty.
0 likesalso what I don't understand is with all the inconsistencies and the lies she told how did she get off and be not found guilty! Who did she know to get out of her situation? It's obvious that she did away with her daughter I don't understand for the life of me why she was not convicted and why she is not sitting in prison.
0 likesone of the grossest injustices in american history. people on that jury should be fucking ashamed of themselves
2 likesHow about the fact that she never reported that her daughter was missing, how can the state over looked that fact
0 likesHow do you know Casey is lying?
0 likesShe exists...
rest in peace, Caylee. I'm so sorry you didn't get justice. you deserved better.
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4 likesThis is all fucked up. How does the jury fall for that lame excuse and manupilation by that dishonest and immoral lawyer is beyond me. The mare fact that she was partying after her daughter was allegedly missing immidiately tells she had zero care about her daughter and only logical answer is because she killed her.
36 likes@꒒ꍏ꓄꓄ꏂ🧋 yep
1 like@꒒ꍏ꓄꓄ꏂ🧋 Who are you referring to?
0 likesI thought you wrote Casey… I’m not finished with the video yet, so I was confused
0 likesBest response here.
0 likesCan anyone tell me what really happened to caylee? No! and the jury couldn't either!
0 likes@Eric Taylor obviously not, because none of us were there. whether she killed her or someone else killed her and she covered it up, a little girl is still dead and never got justice. hence my comment.
0 likes@Angie's Tales from Wales The prosecutor ask the jury how caylee died? And the jury could not answer! If she would have covered it up the jury could have answered that question thus what you're trying to argue is a fallacy.
0 likes@Eric Taylor sorry but what are you talking about? you're making no sense whatsoever. how is it a "fallacy"? a fallacy is faulty or deceptive reasoning, how exactly is my saying "rest in peace" a fallacy? or how is me saying I don't know how the little girl died a fallacy? I am not using any faulty or deceptive reasoning, in fact you'll find my comments pretty straightforward and easy to understand
1 like@Angie's Tales from Wales No a fallacy means a unsound argument based on false beliefs and or idea's, we are not debating that a child was found dead but that it was a cover up and you're case the fact that Casey mom said that she was the one on the internet looking up the site's so thus your debating false beliefs and idea's.
0 likes@Eric Taylor sorry but you must be reading the wrong comment or something because I have not said that anywhere, I simply said "rest in peace, sorry you didn't get justice" which for some unfathomable reason you seem to be furious at and you're outright refusing to explain what the hell you're going on about to me and applying your own logical fallacies to me. so im not interested in continuing a discussion with someone who is just inexplicably angry with me wanting a baby girl to rest in peace.
1 like@Angie's Tales from Wales You don't want to continue this conversation cause I've backed you into a corner have a good day.
0 likes@Eric Taylor yes well done thats exactly what I said. not the reason I gave - clearly it's because of your own fallacious argument. Well done you absolute genius
1 like@Shahnoor Maredia Because as long as a woman is a mother she's not guilty
0 likes"we forgive anything you've said, or done" 🤨
1 likeDetective Allen should have interrogated Amber Heard
1 likeCheney Mason has to have made the most foolish and arrogant statement of all time @1:06:50. Dude is a complete laughing stock.
0 likesI just saw this and I'm speechless, I guess a ghost killed the little baby, I'm so lost
0 likesThe whole case is bizarre but the verdict is unbelievable.
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Incompetent prosecutors eager to make a name for themselves tend to do that.
8 likes@Cronus Captain yeah you have to have a hell of defense because based off circumstantial evidence she’s guilty it’s a open and shut case. She waited a whole month to report her baby was missing ?
8 likes@Brandon Lowery right?? that’s the first red flag. she didn’t even tell anyone that caylee was missing, that is so sketchy
4 likesThe verdict is white
0 likes@Cronus Captain what kindnof Jury leaves this psycho out in nature? With all the evidence there was against her.
0 likes@Cronus Captain damn. And people go to jail for less than that. I guess it's what Americans want, the majority of the jury wanted her free, just like the majority of Americans made Donald Trump President. To the outside world, Americans want the Whites to remain in power not being held guilty for their crimes. I'm happy not to be born in the US. As a young kid, I always wanted to visit the US, but now lol. No thanks
0 likesI can’t quit commenting on this video. How did the jury not find her guilty… how? What am I missing? We’re they paid? The search result alone is damning enough.
0 likesshe should have been convicted . and sentenced to a lifetime of imprisonment .
0 likesShe killed her daughter,she wanted to be free.She knew where her daughter was.And lied and is a liar.
0 likesIt's so obvious she killed her daughter. It pisses me off that she was able to get away with it. I'm so upset right now.
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I can’t even begin to comprehend the stupidity of the jury. Shits insane... she gets freedom despite murdering her daughter and having no remorse while people are doing life for selling Weed. What is the world we live in?
1615 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks not at all
38 likes@AimyiiMarie81 i agree with you, on one thing. i also think she did it, i feel 100% sure on that. although, you are not "stupid" for thinking otherwise, because it wasnt proven. i know it sucks but i on one hand appreciate this ruling. i want her to be sentenced to jail but at the same time, it needs to be proven beyond all reasonable doubt. if we start convicting people without proof and rely more on guts and "the obvious", then we are going in a baaad way and many more will be wrongfully convicted.
373 likes@nikolas it’s Florida
82 likes@TheFun Mugen lol bit of a stretch with the antiabortion speech there buddy
118 likesThe problem was the state’s case. They didn’t prove that she killed her daughter. They brought in junk science that was able to be refuted, then they also didn’t do a full investigation of the computer. I would’ve said not guilty too based on the evidence presented.
77 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks I agree. The state’s case was shaky at best. I couldn’t find her guilty of murder based on that. These people have never seen the full case, only what talking heads like Nancy grace have said.
19 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks i know, that's why i said that i feel 100% sure because i know i can't be since it hasnt been proven
1 like@TheFun Mugen you tell me there was plenty of evidence that she killed her daughter yet you provide none, just like the prosecutor. just beacuse someone can smell a dead body doesnt mean that that body was a crime of murder. it only proves that it was there, not what exactly happened to it. what i feel about men getting falsely accused and/or convicted of rape? i despise it, as one should. that is exactly the reason for my comment. i dont want people to get wrongfully convicted. how could you not see that? if the prosecutor can't provide evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, the defendant should NEVER be convicted. how horrible it may be, a system that convicts people without evidence is not a system i want to be a part of.
51 likes@UC7k64skN-eMKUOiaRcGDJYA that’s circumstantial evidence that the defense eloquently shot down with reasonable doubt. The state’s case had a lot of issues. Especially the forensics. They tried to introduce junk science that the defense argued against. If she was guilty, it was the state’s mismanagement that got her a not guilty verdict.
24 likesI couldn’t believe it !
2 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks “she didn’t murder her daughter. What the court finds the court finds” The courts get shit wrong all the time. This logic doesn’t make sense, and people are entitled to their opinions on closed cases.
34 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks lmao are you ok? People don’t have to justify every reason that they think the court came to a wrong conclusion to random people on the internet, especially people like you who just condescend to feel smart. It’s called having an opinion, get over it😂
21 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks who is saying anything to a court??? This is the internet. People can say whatever they want. Stop policing people’s language when their goal isn’t to prove anything to you or argue with you? How do you not understand that lmao, clearly you have been living under a rock and don’t get how the internet works.
16 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks also, if you want to keep insulting me that’s fine. Stay mad, keep getting heated over people disagreeing with you. Hope you have a good day/night wherever you are despite the fact that you are choosing to be demeaning towards random ass people online❤️❤️
10 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks Are you ok? Maybe you should take a breather and log off so you stop being so triggered. Don't take the internet so seriously :)
10 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks I would also recommend anger management classes. Maybe that would help you not be such a spiteful person after someone disagrees with you online.
10 likesMe too makes me so heartbroken shes a monster
5 likes@TheFun Mugen Well you are completely generalizing people who are pro-choice. I don't think anyone is pro-choice because they want to murder children, there may be exceptions and they are then wrong. The difference between pro-life and pro-choice is the decision based on whether life starts in the mother's womb the moment an egg is fertilized, when the baby is born, basically whenever you consider the beginning of life. So no sane person is for killing children. Abut the case, it was not proven in the court and that is a blunder (in my opinion based on the facts I know). I absolutely agree she is guilty and a terrible human being but pls don't generalize. (and btw I'm not gonna state if I'm pro-life or choice because I am not sure on that issue)
16 likesOJ jury:"we are the worst jury ever"
1 likeAnthony jury:"hold our get out of jail free card"
Well the jury fuck up.
6 likes@Jose exactly. and if you dont know for a fact she shouldnt be convicted. no matter how tough it is to see that piece of shit human walk free, we cant judge because of the "obvious". do you imagine how much easier it would be to frame people if that was all it took to get a conviction? this was the prosecutions fault, the jury believe it or not did the right call based on the evidence and lack there of. english is not my native language so no hate boys
6 likesme too
1 likeShe literally got away with murder. It's sick.
13 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks she DID murder her daughter, whether you like it or not.
4 likesNot proven
0 likesI guess one of the reasons why America has such high wrongful conviction numbers is because u guys are the jury, making emotional judgement based on circumstantial evidences. God bless u guys if ya'll were ever made a clueless drug mule or get framed for something u didnt do. "Innocent until proven guilty" is not ur sole right, it applies even to ur worst enemy.
13 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks People question things and come to their own conclusions, whether through bias or logical evidence through pre-mandated legal parameters. Unless you want to build a machine that can make all people think like you. Be the world you're in. There, that's a nice start to an infinite spiral.
2 likes@Jesper You are confident that every jury would have concluded that the evidence does not prove beyond all reasonable doubt that the sociopath pathological liar lady did kill her daughter? No one here have their pitchforks out in the literal sense and are not marching down to city hall to actually demand recourse. Plus no one is questioning the entire legitimacy of the legal system, which is funny because humanity can never actually have a legitimately fair legal system. The point is there are other factors involved outside the statutes and case law that have caused this unfortunate error to happen. Namely subjectivity. Although I agree with you if someone does not see things you do, no matter how trivial it is, calling them an idiot is incorrect and will not solve any problems or help you to communicate any rational points across to anyone other than people who already agree with you.
3 likes@TheFun Mugen Nanananananananana Batman!
0 likes@TheFun Mugen They are just as f*ck*d as anyone who gets screwed over in this sad existence we call life. Tell me my man. How many naysayers have you won over, without just creating a separatist community that agrees with you? And when are you going to change us humans for the better that the past 2000 years of modern humanity couldn't?
0 likesIt's not what you think you know, it's what you can prove
0 likesTotally agree
0 likesEven with her daughter being found with duct tape around her mouth and nose... And her last google searches.... Those few things alone should've been enough evidence to link her directly to the murder of her daughter. Wtf is wrong with these sociopath apologists??
14 likes@TheFun Mugen TOTALLY! !!! i LOVE TO EAT LATE TERM ABORTIONS! THEY ARE DELICIOUS! WE WAIT TILL THE LAST TRIMESTER BEFORE HARVEST!!! HMMM YUMMY
6 likesburh! you should have mentioned, "spoiler alert"
0 likes@TheFun Mugen Hun, what does being pro - choice have to do with this. You must have pulled a muscle stretching that far lmao. She deserves to be in jail definitely and this story infuriates me, but she chose to have that child. Poor child was brought into this world not wanted and them brutally murdered. It's sad, but maybe she would have been better off not being born to that "person" in the first place. Abortion is not murder, but this story is.
11 likes@TheFun Mugen Oh of course you say this. Why did you bring rape into this anyway? People like you always make it a competition smh.
5 likes@Jesper I understand your point completely.
0 likes@Tyler Rae Well I absolutely hate the argument of: " it is true for me " and the personal belief stuff. It is not based on reasoning. But what I would like to clarify is the thing I meant about life beginning, I meant for some "Soul" (which does not exist) or consciousness or idea of self-awareness. There are things some people consider the beginning of life. And science has not proven they exist at conception. If you still agree that the essential thing that defines humans a human starts at the beginning it still does not matter. When someone is from your perspective misguided and believe that the essential thing for life is later than he honestly believes it, even as wrong as it may be. Based on this wrong assumption he makes a choice based on some morality he justifies. And so he is not a cold-blooded MURDERER just a MISGUIDED person. And you will not convince anyone that life beings at conception by calling them a murderer. And I would agree that humans are extremely bad species, evil and stuff, but when you think about it more people never even think about this stuff(what is their morality based on). So more people in the world are just mindlessly following the ideas that give them meaning. The pursuit of money, physique, traveling you name it. In my language, you would call it a "Modla" a thing that is an earthly goal that you use to fill the missing space when you don't see meaning in life(and they are not necessarily bad things just when placed and used as meaning for life). AHAHAHa I don't think you made it this far but if yes thanks for reading my rant.
2 likes@AimyiiMarie81 Innocent until proven. And they don't have enough evidence to prove it otherwise.
2 likes@Julie Zhu I understand that innocent until proven guilty. That statement has saved a lot of innocent people from being incarcerated and gave them an opportunity to a fair trial. In this case... wow...just wow
1 like@Tanaphar Plus Masks so humanity is apathetic and self-serving
1 likeInnocent til proven guilty
0 likes@nikolas so many people saying she's not guilty under your comment . I pray don't have kids they're giving me I'd murder my child vibes literally . Sick . Imagine if this were a black woman with the SAME exact evidence against her... she'd be six feet under already . She got away with murdering her child the evidence is clear as day .... sad really really sa d
7 likesWhen she said they were "at the end of the hallway" and "there's two doors" and "it's just a matter of which door now". That was actually the most honest thing she said. She was correctly and accurately putting an analogy together that wouldn't be recognized until after the gavel rang in that room.
1 likeAre you basing that on a 1 hour video on YouTube. The jury would have sat through hours of arguments and were not convinced that the state proved beyond a reasonable doubt that she murdered her daughter. If we sat through the trial in its entirety perhaps we would have reached a different verdict
2 likes@King JamesIX wow thanks, I have read a little more about this case and opinions of jurors. If anything, if it's so obvious, you should blame the prosecution in this case, they failed to convince a jury that she was guilty.
2 likesI just think trial by jury is a fundamental right, sometimes they might get it wrong, as they may have in this case, but we still need jury trials.
@Roy Dullman I don't think anyone did anything wrong. The prosecution did everything they could and the evidence was staggering and should have been enough on it's own. The defense, however, also did their job perfectly.
5 likesHence the result.
It sucks. There's a skeleton in that woman's closet and positive reinforcement dealt in recompense for bad behavior. No doubt sociopaths get away with far more crime than normally functioning people.
@Tyler Rae you should probably look for more information about the evidence against them before saying stuff like that.
0 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks prosecutors presented the evidence as clearly and plainly as possible. They did their jobs.
6 likesThe defense created an air of doubt on the evidence to give the idea that the evidence didn't prove anything conclusively. It worked. Clearly defense did a great job.
A child is dead and a cold blooded, selfish, monster of an excuse for a human being runs free to lie and possibly hurt someone else later on. That sucks.
What was so hard to understand about that exactly?
@Tanaphar Plus Masks prosecutors presented the evidence as clearly and plainly as possible. They did their jobs.
2 likesThe defense created an air of doubt on the evidence to give the idea that the evidence didn't prove anything conclusively. It worked. Clearly defense did a great job.
A child is dead and a cold blooded, selfish, monster of an excuse for a human being runs free to lie and possibly hurt someone else later on. That sucks.
What was so hard to understand about that exactly?
@Jesper the amount of lies she tells is a huge indication - she told the police that she'd spoke to her daughter THAT day during that call to the police that her mum made. WHY would you make that up and possibly hinder the police in finding your missing daughter! That's just ONE of the many proven lies. If your child is missing you DON'T wait a month before you notify anyone and you DON'T make up lies.
2 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks It's not a contradiction. Stop looking for arguments where they don't exist.
3 likes#Justice4Caylee
1 like@King JamesIX having watch this video I would say she was guilty and she should have been convicted but the jury did not agree. They deliberated for 10 hours.
3 likesI did do some further reading on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Caylee_Anthony and this is what one of the jurors said
I did not say she was innocent" and "I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be." She added, "I'm not saying that I believe the defense," but that "it's easier for me logically to get from point A to point B" via the defense argument, as opposed to the prosecution argument. Ford believed George Anthony was "dishonest." She said the jury "was sick to [their] stomachs to get [the not-guilty] verdict"
As the states attorney stated "The delay in recovering little Caylee's remains worked to our considerable disadvantage." I think he is right
@nikolas If you have much experience with juries and jury duty, you will see that they are carefully (de) selected and bullied by the court. NOT a jury of peers. This is reason for the idea of jury nullification.
1 likeJudged innocent.
0 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks ???? I'm not understanding your point?
4 likesIF she was innocent and wanted her daughter found she WOULDN'T lie.
In no way am I implying that she "didn't lie" as she clearly did, that was the point I was making - if you're innocent and care about your child, you wouldn't lie but she did lie. My comment above was in response to someone who claimed that "there was no proof she'd lied" yet she told cops she'd spoke to her daughter that morning despite the fact that her daughter was proven to have been long deceased when she made that claim. Not to mention her lies about working at Disney (is she crazy, she thought she could say whatever she wanted and it wouldn't be checked out - THAT'S insane) and that bloke Jason etc etc soooooo many lies - she's guilty af!!!!
P.s......I would NEVER use Wiki to support my case and I'd never look to Wiki for information 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Yea! How old are you? I only ask cuz at 30, i watched this and all of its development and was just dumbfounded when she was found not guilty!
1 likeI felt like a shell for about a week!
@JustPaul yes I'm a regular internet/YouTube lawyer over here
0 likes@King JamesIX the duct tape was never found around her mouth and nose. It was found nearby. They aren't even sure it was anything to do with the child as the evidence was destroyed. It was assumed it was on Caylee as someone thought it had a heart sticker on it but it was destroyed before they could properly check. Being that it was found very close by but not on her actual body, there is no way of knowing if it was used to murder her or, for example, hold whatever she was wrapped in shut.
0 likesWhen the system works against those it was defined for
1 like@Tanaphar Plus Masks thank you for such a lovely comment. I did re-read all the comments properly again which is why I better understood where you were coming from and your views on the case, which are factually correct - she is 'innocent' whether we agree with it or not. I just think it's such an injustful case that it's hard to be scientific about it instead of emotional.
0 likesI do actually aim to remember that I am not always right, there's nothing wrong in that and being wrong, that's how we learn, I don't always have to be right and I'd rather admit I'm wrong than argue for the sake of 'winning'.
It was great conversing with you and I learnt a lot, thank you xx
Ikr
0 likesSame here !!
0 likesI don't know about everybody else. But as a parent if my kid is missing even an hour. With me having no idea where she is. I am in panic mode. I am calling the cops, posting on social media, and out searching nonstop. I think they say if you don't find the missing person in 72 hours. That there is a good chance you won't. I honestly think she did it. But I am not a judge, jury, or detective. So I won't speculate saying it is guaranteed she did it.
1 likeIt pisses me off because I think trying to prove murder was the last thing they should have tried. I feel she did it, but you have to PROVE things in courts. they didn't have enough evidence of the act & should have waited until they could PROVE it to charge her, or got her on something else.. That Def lawyer should be sued for defamation by the father though.
2 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks only murdering moms lie. Loving good moms ALWAYS KNOW WHERE THEIR TODDLER IS.
1 likeShe's white and objectively good looking. What did you expect
0 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks How is talk outside of that irrelevant. You're basically saying hey corruption should be allowed, murder doesn't exist if you're not found guilty even though you've murdered someone.
1 likeI'm skimming through the video because this is super long for me to watch, first she said her child was kidnap by a nanny that doesn't exist, then agree to do an investigation. Then, they found the child corspe by a swamp with ducktape around the child nose, mouth and all, and at the end of the case they all agreed on and admit that the child already die earlier due to drowning. Does she receive a treatment therapist after this case? Is this case really about her daughter justice or about her life. So many questions that's confusing me. Why go through all of this with misleading information she provide at first? She knew what happened from the start. I'm not going further anymore with this case, this is case really is about the power of words in my opinion.
1 like@Tanaphar Plus Masks Your comment basically says that what the court finds will always be the truth, as if no one has ever been falsely charged etc. So yes, your comment says that even if someone murders someone that they haven't actually murdered someone. It makes no sense logically.
0 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks Nothing i've said would be ''my mistake''. Perhaps some of your comments are ''your mistake'' though. All I've done in my comments is talk about what you've said and point out the complete illogicality of the comments in question. When you say ''Your mistake is thinking that your second sentence is my position'', you're actually saying that you don't believe what you've previously stated as your opinion.
0 likesI have also never mentioned anything specifically about this case and you've decided to randomly throw the majority of your comment in there without it logically making any sense, once again.
I get the impression you're trying to come across as intelligent but it's rather obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.
What happened to her father?
0 likes@TheFun Mugen Exactly, it says beyond rwasonable doubt not unequivocal.
0 likesShe didn't call 911 her mother did, if her mother didn't who knows how long it would have been
1 likeShe's obviously very odd personality; kinda like psychopath but that being said ; just coz you're psychopath doesn't necessarily mean you're a killer. I think what happened is accident ( because of how disconnect she is with reality by her nature ) which killed her daughter; and because she got scared, then she tried to forget it by partying like crazy and then her survival instincts kicked in and tried to find way out of it. She was trying to get most out of her life to forget loss of her daughters life. That being said she clearly lied a lot. In eyes of media obviously everyone will think she killed her daughter but that's because we want justice served. You have to understand though that she always been weird personality from what we know. I think she wasn't protecting her daughter well enough to prevent accident to happen. I think she neglected her job as a parent. But I don't think she wanted to kill her despite having such a weird quirks. She should get in prison for neglect tho.
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0 likes@TheFun Mugen pro choice ppl don’t love abortion, who told you that 😂
0 likesYes... circumstantial evidence was way too high for this case... just the position of the body puts Casey or her boyfriend at the scene...
0 likes@TheFun Mugen men being found guilty of rape accusations that they did not commit, while a sad instance, is incredibly rare. men are statistically speaking, more likely to be raped themselves, than to be falsely accused or convicted of committing a rape. also, juries are randomly selected, you have no way of knowing who was on that panel or how they would have ruled in another case. you should be more concerned with a system that lets men go free when there is ample evidence they have raped someone, with a system that incarcerates mothers who have had miscarriages because of our restrictive and inhumane anti-abortion laws, with a system that has forced pre-teens that have been impregnated by rape to give birth to those children, with a system that incarcerates minorities at disproportionate rates and punishes them much more severely. this particular case is of course a tragedy but you are only using it to spout your backwards views. it is so disgustingly disrespectful to this poor child and to countless others. have some fucking taste, pal.
2 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks 'Be the world you're in'? Worst saying I have ever heard. So accept everything and challenge nothing in life? Why do you think courts have an appeal process?
0 likes@TheFun Mugen as per your “pro choice jury will find her not guilty” , I’d like to say you are wrong . I’m pro choice and believe that early weeks of pregnancy a woman has the Chou e to continue with or terminate pregnancy. However, when it comes down to actually killing a child, I’m fist in line to find this POS guilty! Even if she was only pregnant and purposely had a miscarriage I believe she should be guilty!! Being Pro-Choice or Pro-Life has nothing to do with it 😕
0 likes@Mitchell Gwr Their arm must hurt after that reach "THIS WOMAN KILLED TODDLER, THIS IS MY CHANCE TO PUSH PRO-LIFE BULLSHIT ON PEOPLE REEE"
0 likes@Lynda G it’s circumstantial, but her lawyer also argued that there was a time glitch on the computer or something, so the times aren’t indicative of her making those searches. Basically, the state never proved that Casey made the search.
0 likes@Taran Jene the jury sat though the case, you obviously didn’t if you think that evidence was clear. Get over it.
0 likesTanaphar Plus Masks you must not know much about this case or how she was basically caught admitting to murdering her daughter when she was vacationing in the Bahamas like 2 months after she was found innocent. Meaning she only came clean because she knew that after being found guilty she could freely admit it with no repercussions
0 likes@Princess Princess that doesn’t mean the state proved their case though.... you must not have watched the trial in its entirety.
0 likes@Fifi Thank you for your comments... As I was reading the thread I was puzzled because nooooone seemed to call this person out. This had nothing to do with rape, men getting falsely accused many many MANY times (???), abortions or I don't know what.
1 like@Ναντέζντα Κρούπσκαγια Ah, np! I had to put them in their place, they were being completely irrational. lad to see someone agrees ^^
1 like@Tanaphar Plus Masks unfortunately you cant start a new society without getting taxed, subjected to law, and threat of violence from the current government
0 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks Imagine loving the taste of boots this much lol. The only way shit changes is by complaining and pointing out errors. It attracts and informs other people, and shit actually gets done. Stirring up enough noise works even when people are in the wrong... Look at cancel culture.
0 likesThe defendant actually convinced the jury to act like robots instead of humans, by removing emotion from the verdict. Therefore everyone in there was not “convinced” but turned. Since when do robots claim EVIL, and humans update to the next operating system? Maybe we do
0 likesSameee !! Like if she was “Innocent “ who did it then ?? So many questions unbelievable system!
0 likesa person who's that smart like her deserves to be free its a waste to be in jail,do what she did and get away with it if you can.
0 likes@Jesper you, sir, have a very balanced opinion and I very much look up to you right now. Thank you for sharing.
0 likes@Tanaphar Plus Masks 'What the court finds' isn't always correct. While there are so many checks and balances that are in place to try and ensure that justice is always served, it'd be stupid to try and say that they are never wrong. There are countless examples of juries being wrong. Ignoring this is insanity.
0 likes@Jesper . "just beacuse someone can smell a dead body doesnt mean that that body was a crime of murder. it only proves that it was there, not what exactly happened to it." - Really ??? I hope you know how stupid that sounds
1 like@Tanaphar Plus Masks so you think that the opinion of a person alters the reality?
0 likesI know. She is a pathological liar that was able to manipulate anybody who came across her!
1 like@C - well its true. its not like everyone who has ever died, died of murder. you can acturally die from other things as well
0 likes@TheFun Mugen if any person thinks that she isn't the murderer then they are crazy no matter if they are pro-choice or pro-life. I am pro choice but it doesn't mean that I don't have the ability to see what a stupid verdict this was. My blood boils. I can't belive the jury members were so blind.
1 like@TheFun Mugen Are you saying that pro lifers would have made the right decision, which btw, in your case sounds biased
1 likeSo, what's the lesson here? Lie and you can get away with murder? It's so depressing.
0 likes@TheFun Mugen Pro life people only care about babies before they are born.
2 likes@TheFun Mugen It's gross you are using this case to spout your talking points on abortion and rape allegations. This isn't about you.
2 likes@Mastashake you can’t say she used that tape because the body was buried exactly like the pets were, which George Anthony did. The defense just poked great holes in the defense’s story. If you have doubt about one thing, you can’t convict of murder. You were watching the talking heads all day talk about it. Nothing is damning with a sequestered jury.
0 likesThe jury probably got annoyed by the prosecutors over dramatic pauses. Shit was annoying asf 😂
0 likes@Jesper Just not true. 400 pieces of evidence were presented. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Caylee_Anthony
0 likes@Harry Gilmana yep buddies mom just poisoned his dad and they are doing nothing.
0 likes@Harry Gilmanashe was a known meth user and he didn't do meth and wound up dead on the floor with it in his system?
0 likes@caromela but explain all the lies she told the car in impound the smell from the car waiting 31 fucking days to call and when she called she was calm "I have nothing to say to them" hell I am a father and I would flip this world upside down trying to find them AND I WOULD HAVE CALLED THE COPS ASAP
0 likesI’m also very upset. Iv got a headache and can’t stop thinking about the little girl. Mother should have been given the death penalty. And if the grandparents didn’t ask about the little girl. She would not have been to court.
0 likesExactly. We all know she killed that child and even though she thinks that she fulled everyone. She is going to have to live with that guilt for the rest of her life.
0 likes"did you slaughter tousand animal legaly in your slaughterhouse" yes i plaid guilty "here a paycheck thansk for you hard work"
0 likesMy ex and her mother did the same thing to my three children, and severely hurt my oldest son. The police and the town knew that it was planned her acting like they don't know anything about that. The kids that passed away put it on video and told the police before it happened. They still to this day are trying to put me in jail because I want them in trouble for what haven't. Even down to my family is manipulated
0 likesJesper
0 likesInnocent people are already and have been getting convicted on BS “evidence” so what are you talking about? If this was a black mom she would be rotting in prison
Part of the explanation is that in the current feminist atmosphere, the dogma that females are never perpetrators of violence is ingrained in people's minds. That idea is patently wrong, as facts prove. When facts contradict people's ideologies, they tend to double down on their beliefs. When this woman was acquitted, obviously the jury did not believe that she would murder her daughter in cold blood, presumably because females cannot be perpetrators. The only explanation that squares with that view is that she must have been really sick, thereby relieving her from any responsibility.
0 likes@Rodrigo Ramirez yep but there's a lot of scenarios where they were the ones that caused it and they get away with it. It's sickening really. I still believe that they are witches Pier at the ones that do that and get away with it
1 likeLying level over 9000
1 likeYou’ll be fine.
0 likes@Jesper thank you for representing my point of view (mine and certainly plenty of others) in the comments.
2 likesThe "innocent until proven guilty" premise is getting shaken up these days. By extension, it also applies to respecting the levels of doubt when dealing with varying degrees of offences.
@nikolas agreed
0 likes@nikolas a world of due process. Do you want some innocent people in jail or some guilty people free?
0 likesThey literally found a hair from Caylee in her mother's trunk that had started turning dark at the roots consistent with a dead body and they're like, "oh in the trunk?" Oh well let's forget about that.
0 likes@Eli G I'm sorry but for a jury to get this wrong is on the prosecution. You're saying this is a slam dunk. The jury didn't see it that way. Your peers didn't see it the way you did. Ask yourself why
0 likesShe definitely killed her daughter. Blame the inept prosecution, not the jury for why she isn’t in jail today. If they hadn’t gone for the death penalty which has a very high burden of proof, Casey would be behind bars right now.
1 like@aero68 absolutely
0 likes@nikolas they had no proof. She definitely did it, but they couldn’t prove it
0 likesThese defense lawyers are socipaths... They should rot in hell too
0 likesI think there is still a possibility she made it all up to protect herself from facing reality since that was her coping mechanism to her relationship with her father
0 likesGet off the internet then big mad
0 likesI watched the trial and was in disbelief when she was found not guilty. However, months later, after hearing the jury and their reasoning, rewatching the trial, I realized that I agree. The evidence just wasn't there. No one knows how caylee died. Yes, we have a ton of theories but that's all they are, theories.
1 likeDid she kill her on purpose? Did she kill her by accident? Did she really drown?
I actually can't believe that Casey killed her, just can't imagine what she was counting on, I'm more inclined towards some accident and her being afraid to tell her mother.
But none of this matters, these are all theories, there's no evidence. And the prosecution's theories didn't ring true to me.
Also, as much as I despised Jose baez, he did a really good job planting doubt and reminding the jury that if they still have questions, the case was not proven.
So, I'm with the jury, as much as I originally was against their decision.
She's obviously a nut case and maybe killed her daughter but we have laws, that's what it comes down to.
late term abortion my guy this is only the beginning
0 likesFuck that. I'm not watching the full video then
0 likes@Jesper I don't understand how you still think this case was a good thing and proofs our system is a good one. A murderer gets off scott-free and a person gets falsely acused of rape doesn't.
0 likes@Ната after the ruling they found the google searches on casey's computer on how to suffocate someone and the little girls body. If you still think "maybe" go look into after the court ruling
0 likesThis is not a unique outcome, as there is rarely any justice in this world.
0 likes@Stuff OnMyduck if my searches were pulled, I'd be on death row.
0 likesThey found the girl's body after the ruling? After what ruling? Those searches were presented at trial and the body was found by then.
I stand by what I said, not enough evidence.
@Stuff OnMyduck i dont remember anything about a rape, sry. yes, a murderer shouldnt walk free but they should also not be imprisoned without sufficient evidence that proves BEYOND any doubts that she is is guilty. neither outcome is good but this is honestly better in the long haul. one (maybe) murderer walks free. at the same time our justice system did not risk punish any innocent person. if it starts doing that then we are headed in a bad direction
1 like@Jesper I was talking about men being falsely accused and imprisoned with shit evidence. And I don't know about you someone who killed their child roaming free doesn't sound safe to me. What I'm saying is it's still garbage in no way is it good. But screw it if innocent people get punished like nothing why shouldn't this sociopath?
0 likes@Jesper It's not that they didn't have evidence that she either killed her or was party to her death, it's that they didn't have evidence that directly showed that Casey directly killed her.
0 likesYou don't need beyond a reasonable doubt evidence to convict someone, it just makes it much harder.
The mother saying that Casey's trunk smelled like a dead body at least shows that Casey was party to her death, if not directly, then indirectly. Someone with access to her home, her car, her daughter killed her. How did they get access to those things if not through Casey?
They had plenty of evidence to convict, the defense had enough room to instill doubt in the jurors.
It really was the perfect case of defense vs the prosecutor.
I genuinely can't believe the defense won with the way they went about it. The whole part of the accidental drowning in the pool would have made me question his stance if I were a juror, and the whole bit of her being molested by her parents is exactly what he talked about in his closing statement, emotional manipulation with no evidence, but his closing statement did finally hit the nail on the coffin for the prosecution.
@Ната It doesn't matter if it was on accident or on purpose though.
1 likePutting tape over someone's mouth and nose after searching 'foolproof suffocation' is proof enough of intent.
If we have to have perfect evidence directly showing someone committing the murder, then pretty much no one would go to prison for murder unless it was on camera.
The FBI could do a firearm trace on a firearm, find that it belonged to the primary suspect, see that he had access to the firearm and ammunition used, see that he had motive, but according to y'all, the primary suspect shouldn't be convicted of murder because there's no evidence showing them committing the murder. Someone could have stolen his firearm and ammo and brought it back after conveniently killing the person the suspect had a grudge against.
She's covering for somebody -- I knew she'd be found not guilty
0 likesThis video makes me sick to my stomach
1 like@AnCap Asuka it wasn't proven that she did any of it.
1 likeAnd in your example, that alone isn't enough evidence.
They didn't prove intent in her case. Sort of, kind of, but as I said, I still have questions. Jury did too.
The prosecution's motive (that she wanted to kill her daughter so she can go out to clubs) didn't make sense to me. And the entire case falls apart because no one can say why she would want to kill her daughter. Yes, motive isn't part of the required elements but without it and with shaky evidence, there are issue with the case.
The body was found too late and the cause of death couldn't be determined. Also, the way it was found was suspicious. The search party story was suspicious.
Scott Peterson was convicted on circumstantial evidence but in his case, there are no questions.
In her case there are.
Actually, I was much more convinced of her guilt before the trial. But when I heard the closing, I started to see his point.
I don't believe the defense's story either but he had a lot of good points. Prosecution messed up here, that's all. Left room for doubt. And he was able to instill that doubt in the minds of the jury.
@Mateo Hodge probably so. That's why a good lawyer can make or break a case. Jose baez turned out to be very good. He went on to win 10 (i think) large cases with almost no losses. This cannot be an accident (winning Casey's only could've been written off as an accident, stroke of good luck). He's good. As much as I don't like him.
0 likes@Ната It can't be shown that anyone else had access to the child, her car, or her home, she couldn't name anyone who took the child after her initial claim was proven false.
1 likeThey absolutely showed that her death was ruled a homicide and that she had tape around her air passages after she had searched for 'suffocation' two different ways. People have been put away after having less evidence of intent.
Her motive makes sense, she was a young girl dating someone who got to go to clubs and party at night, she had a child and had a responsibility to care for that child and couldn't go out like that. After losing her child, she did engage in the party life, even getting a tattoo.
The flagrant disregard for her child's well-being shows that she lied about searching for her by herself. If she had already exhausted her attempts to where she had given up and partied, she should have gotten other people involved.
There's always questions in these cases, that doesn't mean the defendant should always be not guilty.
Saying you don't have any questions about pretty much any other case kind of shows to me a bias. There's always unanswered questions.
@AnCap Asuka she didn't have to name anyone. The police have to prove their case, she has no legal obligation to help.
1 likeAt least 2 people had access to the home. She had access to the car but it wasn't proven that the body was there. The science they tried using was innovative and I guess the jury didn't accept it.
The manner of death was ruled a homicide only because of duct tape, otherwise, the coroner couldn't tell.
And the cause of death was undetermined.
Tape around the passages was her opinion, though an educated one. There was only a skeleton left.
But none of this matters. None of this proves that she did it. Yes, most likely but too many questions.
The clubs and stuff is definitely weird but here I'm buying the defense's story, she was fucked up in the head from childhood and acted and thought different than others.
To me the motive makes no sense. To you it does. It's a matter of opinion.
The prosecution didn't do a good job here, the defense did. That's what it comes down to.
@Stuff OnMyduck what makes you even bring that up? Why would that justify someone else getting falsely convicted. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. I despise when people get wrongfully accused/convicted. I also don’t like it when someone walks free when they shouldn’t, although it is better than having an unreliable system. You guys misinterpret all I’m saying and bring other things up so there is no point in answering anymore. I’ve said mine. Nice chatting with yoy
1 like@Jesper exactly two wrongs don't make a right. You should get mad at people being falsely accused AND people guilty of somthing not get charged anything. In no scenario is she innocent. My point is, just because she was found not guilty doesn't mean she was innocent or not involved. And that's the fault of the shitty prosecutor *AND THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM*. People like you though for some foresaken reason only believe the lady is just weird and had no involvement in the child's death whatsoever. You could give less of a shit about the poor child. You just want to support the lady and her party life (did you know she was planning on making a movie about how amazing her partying life was during her childs death?)
0 likes@Ната why? Why do you want to protect a sociopath so much?
0 likes@Stuff OnMyduck I'm not protecting her at all. I'm saying that the prosecution didn't do a good job and defense did.
0 likesI'm with the jury: she is guilty of something but not sure exactly of what.
@Ната exactly you're agreeing with the defendant if your not agreeing with the prosecutor. Which the whole point of one is to prove someone's innocence.
0 likesDefendant:
"You don't have proof she did it. There's some really highly suspicious activity, but nothing you can proof are linked because you need MORE evidence"
You and the jury:
"You're right. She probably didn't do anything. Alright stay happy and enjoy the rest of your life! What do you mean the little girls death? Ah whatever she's already dead"
@Stuff OnMyduck yes. That's exactly how the system works. The prosecution has to prove it. I like that system. If I ever end up charged with something, I like that people aren't going to be guessing, that there has to be proof.
0 likes@Ната I didn't want it to get personal but I want you to understand what people are coming from. Also I understand this is different from humans but still.
0 likesLet's say I am a dog sitter for your dogs. You come back for them and I tell you I have no idea where they are. You freak out and call the cops. Then I change the story and say somebody took them but I still don't know where they are. Im a suspect because I was last with them. Turns out the person I mentioned doesn't exist. My lawyer says there's no proof that I did somthing to your dogs. Investigators finds there corpses in a lake with ducktape around there muzzles. They also find I was searching "how to kill pets". My lawyer says it could've been an accident or it was delibrate but there is still no proof of either. I end up walking off free only charged with lying. Im free to go own a dog or dog sit for anyone. What would you think? I'm obviously guilty of neglect OR SOMETHING and you would want me to get punished. But guess what? No proof I did anything. I just smile and whistle away. Does that still sound correct or understandable?
@Ната would you still be happy I'm a free man? I mean your dogs are dead. You're probably your morning/depressed. But I'm actually as happy as I can be. I'm obviously guilty of somthing. Does it seem like a good system?
0 likes@Stuff OnMyduck there's no perfect system, this is the best available. You either end up locking up a bunch of innocent people (and it's already happening) or you let some guilty loose.
0 likesYou don't have to give me examples for the mentally challenged, I understand what was written above 500 times. I just don't agree.
Scott Peterson's case was also circumstantial, but there are no questions left about his case, guilty, killed his wife because he wanted to be with the gf and didn't want the baby. There was proof that he wasn't happy about the pregnancy and all kinds of proof that he was planning a life with his gf. So even though there was no evidence of the murder, he was convicted and rightly so.
In her case, to me, there's no clear cut story. She, by all accounts, was a good mother, like all young people, wanted to go out but people don't kill their kids because of that.
Searches don't mean much, I search all kinds of stuff. And she wasn't the only one who had access to the computer. Also, forensics had issues with the time stamps and how many times it was search, time spent on each page, etc.
The cause of death wasn't proven.
Something happened with her daughter. What exactly - no one knows, people can only guess.
You're saying she suffocated her, others were saying she gave her too much xanax and the duct tape was there so that she didnt make noise in the trunk while she was out partying. The other theory is the drowning. There are many.
The point is that no one knows. And you cannot convict someone on first degree murder if you don't know.
Maybe if the prosecution chose a different charge and a different strategy for the case, it would've worked.
@Stuff OnMyduck what does my happiness or lack of have to do with the system? No matter what system is used, there will always be wrongful convictions and people getting away with crime. Someone will always be unhappy.
0 likesWhat's your point?
We have laws and they have to be followed. You don't like the laws and the current system - offer something better, go to the legislators and get it passed.
The current system is that is has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. It wasn't.
@Digger Gardi I don't think you understand what a cold case is. She can never be tried again for this death, no matter what emerges.
0 likesI'm not saying that's good, but that's how it is.
If the evidence emerges, I will be the first one to agree that she is guilty. But she will not go to trial for it, double jeopardy will apply.
I'm not defending her, she's def guilty of something, I just don't know what exactly she did.
And what alibi? This isnt about an alibi, they didn't know what happened or when, alibi plays no part here.
@Ната my point? My point is to stop people like you from thinking this should be the norm. If you just sit and accept it nothing will change. Innocent people will get arrested. Guilty people will be free. You're a fool if you think one person can change an entire system.
0 likes@Stuff OnMyduck I'm ok with the system. It worked like it was supposed to. She is guilty of something, everyone agrees on that, the jury too.
0 likesBut what exactly - no one knows, everyone just has their own theories. And we cannot convict people on theories.
You want her convicted and you're willing to change the system. But people like you don't realize that one day it might be you that's on trial. And that's when you will wish that theories and guesses aren't accepted in court.
@Ната your saying it like it doesn't already happen.
0 likes@Jason Adams the jury didn't say she's innocent. They just said that the case wasn't proven but they feel that she's guilty of something.
0 likesI agree with that formulation.
Also, the case was broadcasted, I doubt the jury heard anything that the public did not hear.
V Card. End of convo.
0 likes@Ната I didn't say she did have to, but if she were to not know who took her child, there's no sign of a break-in, at the very least she can be charged with neglect.
0 likesTwo people had access to the home, her and her boyfriend.
The body was hidden, so the pool story doesn't make sense, the body was wrapped in a blanket which would have been in the house or car, and since the body had to have been transported, the evidence of the mother smelling death in the trunk is enough to fit the circumstances.
The tape was on her head, not used to hold the blanket around her, it's not like the tape was on the blanket and somehow ended up on her head, that doesn't make any sense, there's no reason for the tape on the body if not to block her air.
You keep saying you have questions, but you have yet to say what those questions are.
I have questions about many killers and terrorists who were convicted of their crimes, that doesn't mean they didn't do it.
The prosecution had plenty of evidence to convict, the defense used her sociopathy to have her lie and cause confusion among the jury, there's no evidence that she died of drowning in a pool, there's no evidence Casey was abused as a child, yet they managed to drop those in on the jury and then told them to only listen to what is known, but they did it in a way that disparaged the prosecution rather than the defense.
The jury had enough to convict, they just didn't.
It doesn't matter if it was her or her boyfriend who actually put hands on her to kill her, she was party to it in some manner, there's no scenario where she isn't.
How are you saying there's no evidence on the prosecution side, yet you believe the defense story which has literally no evidence for any of it.
You're clearly coming from a position of bias. If you were actually objective, you'd not say that.
Same.. I jumped when she got off Scott free. Looks like she was able to lie herself outta the system as well.
0 likesWow thanks mate.
0 likesWhat assures you that she killed her?
0 likesWhat pisses me off more is that she can come out today and say “yea I killed her” and there is nothing that can be done about it.
0 likesSo much evidence yet still she goes free. Damn, that's fucked up.
0 likespoor mum
0 likesJust evil
0 likesReading these replies I am baffled at the people defending this verdict. Throwing arguments like "they didn't prove anything" "reasonable doubt". Casey had proven means, motive, and opportunity. There have been MANY cases with the same situation or less that have brought in a guilty verdict with this system working. If you are defending the verdict you could be convinced of anyone's innocence because of your misunderstanding of reasonable doubt and a lack of logic. Yes, you should be convicted with circumstantial evidence and people do any the system is made to convict people with circumstantial evidence. Just because a piece of evidence in circumstantial does not mean you throw it out. The jury was swayed by a defense attorney and Caylee was failed to the point people defend her mother and the system that failed her. Shame.
2 likesI am fucking blown away how she could get away with this.
1 likeYeah, this may be the only one of these videos that I can't finish because it's so upsetting.
1 like@John Charles if you can prove your incense you won't be jailed. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that innocent people don't end up in jail and guilty people roam free, it's just how well they presented their case. Hence I said that
0 likesMe too.
0 likesWould you consider yourself pro choice?
0 likes@Jose You don’t understand what burden of proof means.
0 likesShe’s white 🤷♀️
0 likes@Jesper She did not know or care where her child was for over a month while she partied and got tattoo and began her new life.
0 likesShe showed no emotions towards recovering and finding her daughter.
She searched suffocation and smothering on the day her child went missing and was found suffercated.
She lied about her daughters baby sitters.
She consistently lied and took the police to a place she worked years ago, then just laughed and said she was lying.
She never offered the police any help in their investigation and offered nothing to suggest she was innocent.
Is this now a free woman? its an absolute disgrace.
She accused her father of child abuse to try and get off?
Thank you for your comment. At least I did not waste an hour and 9 minutes of my time. The decision of the jury is utterly disgusting.
0 likes@nikolasThe whole jury system is completely broken tbh.
0 likesProve it. Oh wait, you can't.
1 likeThe only people that don't think so were apparently that jury.
0 likesshes socially ostracized though. she did spend a few years in jail. she had to declare bankruptcy with the cost of the search. there was also a law called caylees law enacted in several states because of this case.
0 likes@nikolas yeah its fucked. Nobody does life for selling pot tho...
0 likesHow she got away with this is absolutely absurd, disgusting and complete reflection on the justice system. Shame on her and the jury.. I wonder if the jury on this case "sleeps pretty well at night"?.. hope they don't. We're talking about a 3 year old for god's sake! NO mother would act like this if not guilty. Wtf!? Disgusting she's walking free with a smile on her face sleeping well at night. God bless you Caylee.
1 likeseriously... I HATE this justice system. it’s so disappointing and heart breaking for caylee 😞
1 like@Collin Phiri that's not what you said, and either way you're just trying to get out of the fact that what you said is objectively wrong. I don't know what made you think that's how you spell innocent but it also lets me know just how experienced you really are with law and how you're just repeating something your dad or a teacher said that you have no real understanding of how it works in the real world. If you don't get why what you said is wrong, it's because you're not there to prove your innocence they are there to prove your guilt you're supposed to be innocent till proven guilty so why do you need to prove your innocence. You don't need to prove your innocence you just need to prove Reasonable Doubt. There was no reasonable doubt that she at the very minimum was responsible for her daughter's death when the police asked her how does it help us find your daughter to tell us all these lies for a month she admits "it doesn't." So why would she not want the police to find her daughter there is only one thing that's reasonable... she killed her.
0 likes@Collin Phiri so first you say it's not what you know it's what you can prove in court....then you say the defense has to prove their innocence that the prosecutors don't have to prove their guilt because how else would innocent people get put in jail if that's how it really worked. this proves what you said is a myth. You realize that you just made both of those points in unison and acted like they meant the same thing when they are the exact opposite. Why would they have to prove their innocence if the prosecutor can't prove their guilt it's not what you know it's what you can prove in court I thought u said? But it's a myth clearly...
0 likes@Jesper it is never "proven".
0 likes@Mordecai that's their fault
0 likesMakes me sick that she got away with it
0 likesI know its no ethical or right to get invested into cases like this but this shit was the dumbest shit server your right and it pissed me off to man...
0 likes@John Charles hold on there dude, you don't know me so don't start making assumptions. If there's no "reasonable doubt" how is it she won the case? Clearly you didn't take time to understand what I said but rather you jumped right in to respond
0 likesShe got away with it because the degraded evidence left room for doubt as to whether she did it or someone in her family did it, which was the defence's argument if I remember it correctly. If they had found the body sooner before the evidence degraded it may have been different but yeah she does appear to have gotten away with murder, or at best covering up an accident like a drowning or something. There was really just the evidence of that tape combined with her behavior and really that behavior is what we are all upset about because that's what makes us feel certain she's guilty.
0 likes@Jesper It is proven, it's just that prosecution didn't put forward their evidences properly. The duct tape, the Google search, body in the trunk for a couple of days (even if she drowned, nothing explains keeping the body in the trunk for that long, also where did the duct tape come in that case?). The diary, what she did later (no sign of sadness, if she actually saw her kid die, and was lying to herself, she would be in pain!) If she saw her daughter drown, what explains her Google search "foolproof suffocation"? That makes no sense. There is proof, the jury is not able to put together and understand the scenario, the prosecution didn't put forward it in the best way.
0 likesThat's what a good lawyer gets her. To get away with murder
0 likesWait she is free ? I m at begining of the video video said smelling car baggage and she is free? WHAT ?
0 likes@nikolas they all probably new but you can't do anything without some form of hard case
0 likes@Kitty Kat circumstantial evidence isn't really good enough
0 likesin the words of how to get away with murder: there is no such thing as justice there's only the best liar👁👄👁
0 likes@Kitty Kat none of these prove she killed Caylee. In court it's what you can prove not what you know or think.
0 likes@nikolas never a truer word spoken
0 likesBeing pissed off about it and shouting in social media is exactly what got her off the hook though. If this case had not been blown up by media, that defense lawyer would have had absolutely nothing to derail the jury from all the other evidence pointing to only her being able to kill her child. Simply stunning what he did, and that the jury fell for it, but that's the world we live in now.
0 likesIt's because she's pretty ish
0 likesI’m just here to read all the expert’s opinions. Lol. Not guilty.
0 likes@Harry Gilmana Definitely
0 likes@Kitty Kat i understand what you are saying, and i thought about that the same way at first. Like a big part of this comment section is saying and you to, it seems very obvious that she killed her daughter. But like a lot of people said, you cant prove her guilty from her strange behavior and lies continuesly trough the investigations. Im sure that the judges (or at least some of them) that voted her unguilty didnt do that simply out of stupidity. I think that if you have a job like the judges or those investigators, you learn and you know that you just cant decide whether someone is guilty or not just by listening to what you think and what you find logical. Youve gotta come up with diehard prove.
0 likesWhen someone only judges by their experience, intuition and feeling then their is a way bigger change of making mistakes. At least in this scenario.
Im not trying to say that your totally wrong. Im also sure that she killed her daughter and its really sad to see her getting away with such a crime....
@Jesper exactly man, this happend a lot in the past. When you have real prove, the least mistakes will be made. A lot of people have been misjudged in the past, mostly because their wasnt enough evidence in the end. This sometimes even caused unguilty people to stay in jail for the rest of their lives. I personally find it really sad to see someone get a way with such a crime, but its not the fault of the judges because they probably decided by the evidence that was given, but there wasnt any really😑
0 likes@Fifi abortion is definitely murder. If you have an abortion you killed your child there's no question.
0 likes@Alanna Jackson race card. Why am I not surprised.
0 likes@A M how did you come up with 0.7% number. Prove it
0 likes@Jason Gardner Another race baiter. Let rational adults talk please.
0 likes@gabi OK so you get to kill your child before it's born and a father has no say. Personally I think that's a crime against humanity. If women have the choice to not have a child and kill it. Then is fathers should have the choice to not want to be in the child's life. However this conversation doesn't really need to be in this comment section.
0 likesIt's Florida... Insane shit happens there daily.
0 likes@Digger Gardi no, I'm pretty sure no matter what evidence emerges she cannot be tried again. The only thing is, I think that law is on a state by state basis. I would have to check fl law
0 likesSpoilers man
0 likes@Ducky Feathers So was OJ Simpson. Strange, they never found the killer huh?
0 likesjust because we have know. the fact the state brought a poor case is the problem. had the jury given a guilty verdict it would create implication in the future that none of us want. a case closed without a solid conclusion
0 likesSame it angers me. It's so obvious. I don't get how she got away with this
0 likesi just started and saw this, and I absolutely hate injustice, so I think i'll head to another video so i dont get mad
0 likes@Zack Fair double negative. Since that wasn’t proven in court by DNA, I wouldn’t make the claim.
0 likes@caromela Stop telling court what to do or not.
0 likesJust hope they really making the reality TV show Even if it's not funny at all. In the end
0 likes@Zack Fair lol um, okay.
0 likesHer home is googable. What is stooping you from arming yourself, training and handling this? BE the HERO America needs.
0 likesI agree not enough evidence on this crime they say Bolney the car - she goes on partying after the fact her composer no grief what so ever she did it and she got away with it periode no one else committed this crime and how she got out of it is beyond me evidence her car should have gave them a huge clue ..
0 likes@nikolas it's the prosecution not the jury at fault.... Her lawyer made a good argument... Keep in mind the jury didn't get to see her interrogations... How she didn't get found guilty of negligence I'll never know...the proof of that was 31 days no report.... But can totally see why not guilty of murder etc...even though I "know" (think) she did it....as I have so many questions about this? It's the biggest flaw in the system is prosecution present hypotheses/theory as facts...instead of doing what they supposed to be doing (finding out what happened)... To gain conviction*...That's all that matters to prosecution. Cops try to fined out what happened. But are constantly trying to trap you, truth gets so distorted who knows what actually happened? Only her and anyone else involved... Fact of the matter is, it was a big mistake by the cop at start in thinking he didn't need confession... It is "obvious" to *assume her guilt but proving it is different matter. You know what they say about those who "ass u me ". From this did they prove she did it? In your mined?.... For me the answer is no. I'm still no clear on what happend... I mean the prosecution case is she did it to be "20+ and free" That's no motive.. She lived with her parents she could have just left the child with her parents...?... Possibley she was abused? This then opens more questions and possibilities.... Prosecution / investigators fails to prove she did it no doubt... I hope I'm understood. Now We will never ever know what happened because of the failure of the state...officials... She has no need to tell all.
0 likes@Jesper glad to see someone else that knows the difference between thinking and knowing for a fact. Definitely a dangerous game to play giving up the burden of proof.
1 likeIt was a failure by the investigator/prosecution... After all who knows, it may have been??? And she "protecting"... I always feel slightly dissatisfied at prosecution explanations....because they always nothing more than theory without confession. Just best geuss as evidence *suggests*.
@Digger Gardi no, just checked. Cannot be tried again for the same crime.
0 likesOnly 2 exceptions are, if the crime is different and a different jurisdiction can try you for the same crime. Though I'm not sure how this works, maybe if the crime was committed in multiple jurisdictions.
So, no, safe to say, she will never be retried.
@Kitty Kat that's not evidence of anything other than she lies. This don't prove murder, How you know it wasn't the boyfriend or grandfather etc...?
0 likesLoads of people lie about the dumbest things, some of them confess to crimes they didn't commit.. I'm in no way saying she is innocent... Just that's not proof guilt.
I wonder how many innocent people would be jaild and guilty go free using your logic. Well you lied about that so your a???
@Michal Satin I I know it's your choice (no pun intended) but o would like to sway you to pro choice. I totally agree with depends on how you define "life", however pro choice is the only choice (pun intended) how many children are in foster homes? How many children get abused by people who don't only not want to be parents they shouldn't be.
1 likeThe pro choice pros far out wagh the negative.... The negatives far out wagh the pro life pro. Pro life= all negative realy no pro to it.
@Zack Fair lmao bet you’re a Casey Anthony sock account😂
0 likes@One Punch Flan you are wrong.
0 likesFun fact: she’s currently trying to start a private investigation firm to profit off of her situation. Absolute bullshit that stuff like this slides in the law system. Instead of people getting what they deserve, they benefit from their crimes. Ridiculous.
0 likes@One Punch Flan it's rarely no choice to father. And your whole argument is invalid. What gives you the right to force anyone to do something they don't want to?
0 likesDo you know how many children are abused by parents that not only don't want to be parents they shouldn't be. Can't afford to be etc...
How many kids in foster homes etc... Any idea of the damage that causes to a "life". Question are you pro death penalty?
@Ната I'm sure double jeopardy has been reformed... It has in uk anyway.
0 likes@Howling Eclipse what's obvious?
0 likesshe is a liar that's all that's obvious. How you know it's wasn't....?..... And she covering. I'm positive she knows what happened I'm not positive she did it...the prosecution fails to prove the narrative "20+ and free" . It infact don't make scenes. Why kill why not just leave with parents? They both staying at parents already. Bringing me to think it's possible she telling some truth with the abuse... How you know it's not her dad or etc? We will never know what really happened.
@Chimene unfortunately that's fantasy.
0 likesFor the very last comment you made to me... I am unable to reply... I have been silenced.... It's unfortunate as I would like to continue that line of conversation.... I know you will not see this...to be honest I have not looked at the subject in detail for a long time...if you define "god" it makes this conversation well easier. You Buddhist Christian that's a new one for me... That's the problem with religions Cherry picking that's how we ended up with diverse Christianity in first place.. Divers religion really. We sun worshipers... At end of the day.... And at beginning of all religion lol
@Chimene it's like saying devil made her do it...it diminishes her guilt / responsiblity... And the fact is we don't know what happened.
0 likes@Chimene also surly "god" don't "deal with her" for something that's part of his plan?
0 likes@robert gibson what does uk law has to do with usa law?
0 likesNo, from what I'm seeing, this is still the case: no retrials for same crimes.
@Ната #1 UK law is basis for us law. #2 I'm familiar with both and couldn't remember if us followed suit. Thanks though for clarification.
0 likes@robert gibson Thanks man. After my previous comment studied about it a bit becise i was not satysfied with my lack of opinion. And yes i understand what you mean and i agree. I dont think that you are allways obliged to save a life no matter the cost (like donating your organs, paying all of your money or something like that). Also the problem with foster homes (what to do with kids after they are born). And in the end i still don't think that life begins at conception so these arguments are a bit useless because its again very hard to draw the line.
1 like@Simon Cow some believe it was his son.
0 likesThe jury was fckin sick in the head
0 likesShe really got away o my word am not going to watch the next 70 percent
0 likes@Jesus save watch it all...That's the problem... Dont jump to conclusions without the facts.
0 likes@Zack Fair I dare you to come find me zack😂 you seem like great fun
0 likes@Chimene again unfortunately that's fantasy. What was "life" like before you wer born? It's the same in death. Free will? Non argument what free will did that child have? Why is a child born with disabilities? Why me Etc... Again we don't have all the facts.
0 likes@Chimene you miss the point..your explanation gives the opportunity to etc.... You are the one devoid of reality... That's the point. Materialistic? What gives that impression... Couldn't be farther from the truth.
0 likes@Chimene I infact am a very reasonable person. This is why I don't accept god hypotheses. I'm against religion. You provide excuse rather than explanation. So for instance saying she 😈 takes out the need for why? Why she done it matters. How she did it matters. If she did it MATTERS. Etc... Punishment/treatment matters here on earth. Death is nothingness.
0 likes@Chimene another example if "god" and "heaven" exist what did she do that was wrong? She sent her child to "heaven" or do you go to "hell" if you're murderd? Why punish at all on earth? She ensuring "eternal bliss in heaven" for her innocent child....see the point I'm making?
0 likes@AnCap Asuka no one had access to her home? She lived with her parents.
0 likes@Michal Satin yes for me and I'm sure the law it's first breath defines "life". I do however think there's a point of no return, before birth. And shouldn't be done without full consultation (options). By no way in my opinion do "life" start at conception. If that was the case I'd ask the person making that point...who is responsible for still birth? I fully understand you understand my point..the fact you reinforce my point of what to do with unwanted kids...tells me this. The funny thing about this is those that argue "morality" often are the most immoral people.
0 likesIf shes not in prison anyone paid too much for it...
0 likesThe more I think about this case she'd need to have the worst lawyer in the world to be convicted of murder. She may be the coldest most calculated murderer ever...the state screwd the case big time... She was way to smart for the cops and prosecution. Had them 2 steps may have been 5 steps behind the whole time. Those cops and prosecution were the ones that wer naive. She had me too....I thought she was dumb lol...if she done it she is sharp as a razor.... And pland it all methodically... Those prosecutors should be sacked! For gross incompetents. And the cops need re training.
0 likesYou know why she laugh out loud at universal? She can't believe her luck they letting her waist time.....to the absolute fullest.
A phone call could have taken 3 minutes to discredit...but they went TV show on it....Let's visit with you...I starting to think those cops are part of pedo ring.....why allow the shirad? Ether incompetents or involved.
@Ната was thinking more on the subject of double jeopardy... It must be reformed in US too...why else wouldn't OJ or woman here not just Wright a tell all? Make a fortune can't be charged with murder again? Why not?...Can't be charged with much other than obstruction / perjury. What's to stop the state going for those charges now? Why did prosecution try for murder? Why not negligence and build later a case of murder... Those are two separate crimes.
0 likes@robert gibson I'm not sure. From 1 point of view, if the person is obviously guilty, he got away.
0 likesFrom another point. If someone is innocent and he spent years and tons of money and nerves fighting the crime, is found not guilty and then to start the process over... cruel
@Ната I agree with you on loads of points you made here..throughout this comment section...I fully understand why someone innocent wouldn't want to go through it again...and why we have/had double jeopardy law in first place...to stop people being convicted of crime they didn't commit. it is infact a crime to imprison falsely... Double jeopardy ment if you accuse me I had better have done it... For instance my wife runs off you say I killed her I go jail she turns up I'm released I kill wife no jail I done my time..get my point?
0 likes@Ната "she didn't have to name anyone." nope, mother of 2 years old kids should be able to answer the question who is taking care of her kid. Only someone heartless can watch all this evidence and say that he is not sure if she should end up in jail... and that is my beat why she was able to win her freedom, jury also wanted to be free...
0 likes@Ната not if time is served. Lol yes I remember the movie.... The crime can't be tried again.... And would be thrown out so fast you'd not see it for dust....how can you be sure the person done it....that was your point being flung back at you lol....was the point of asking original question.
0 likes@Biały I'm talking about by law. She didn't have to name anyone or do anything at all.
0 likesHeartless has nothing to do with it, juries aren't allowed to bring emotions into their decisions.
The evidence wasn't there. To convict someone of murder, you have to prove HOW the victim died. This wasn't proven.
@robert gibson I already forgot the original question and the points, the thread is too long to dig.
0 likesCan you explain?
@Ната ps the movie is named after the law double jeopardy. She is being charged under the law murder. Hope I'm understood.
0 likes@Ната sorry my bad...I know what you mean...the point you made is that "imagine being innocent and being tried twice" etc.. My question was why not tell all...if OJ can't be tried?... "Obvious can be" well that's contradiction... The actual law double jeopardy... is like I said you got to be sure! You can't just go half ass accusations. The reason OJ can't do tell all is that they would charge him with a different degree of murder..... Plus perjury etc....
0 likesGibson of course, and guilty people will hide behind that law. He will never tell all because he will be tried again. Though isn't he already locked up for robbery?
0 likesBut I think the law was written to protect the innocent first. At least that's my hope.
@Ната he well out from that incident. But did go to jail for robbery.
0 likes@Biały no one is saying that
0 likes..the argument is for what crime?
@Biały you think this circumstantial evidence proves murder? Please explain?
0 likes@Ната oh aye it's definitely for the innocent.... this leads to my original post and point...it's the investigator and more to the point the prosecution that's at fault in both these cases.... They assume they got there guy so don't investigate other possible avenue... If the charge her for negligence that's the charge that would stick...now you have time to build case for x...what ever the charge may be....and justice may have been carried out....
0 likesBut the prosecution too often successfully convict without hard evidence. This is the problem.. And why double jeopardy was created.to prevent inoccent being tried the first time..it's not supposed to get to court if you innocent. It's the prosecution job to go after the crime of x....cops gather information "evidence" the prosecution decide what changes to bring forward. And because they used to getting conviction with less circumstantial evidence. This is actually an example of a good jury than good defence...a poor lawyer would get her off this charge, Presented the way it was.
@Biały with you on the jury you'd better hope you're never accused of anything.
0 likes@robert gibson yeah I know)) she was charged with murder but under the double jeopardy law or clause or whatever it is, couldn't be charged again when she actually killed him (did she actually kill him or just wanted to? Can't remember, been a while)
0 likes@Ната just to be clear... Double jeopardy was created to prevent inoccent being tried at all...(The first time)....if you inoccent you shouldn't be at court in first place....Burdon of proof. And the worst thing you can do if you innocent is talk to the police.... It only helps them build circumstantial evidence against you...if you a witness to a crime that's different but you have to be an actual witness you know what happend... No good if you in as "witness" if you have no idea. Best to stay quite... Give nothing... Anything you think might be useful to them probably is in case against you...
0 likes@robert gibson no, double jeopardy was created to prevent retrials after acquittal. Burden of proof is there to hopefully avoid convictions of innocent.
0 likesMiranda laws are there to help the innocent not give incriminating statements.
And grand jury is there to prevent indictments, if the proof is not there.
There are a bunch of mechanisms in place that are supposed to protect the innocent at every step.
@Ната then it's for the guilty not inoccent.... It's definitely to prevent you from beginning tried first time round...no second chance.
0 likes@Jesper I absolutely understand what you’re saying. So there is evidence which would be proven to be fact and there is circumstantial evidence which is not proven to be fact at all. This is one case that I would say there is beyond enough circumstantial evidence to prove guilt. That being said, 99.9% of Convictions are based upon circumstantial evidence and should have been found innocent and not sent to prison. It Hass to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt and most citizens are ignorant the jury pool is ignorant and doesn’t even comprehend what that means. Everything is against the American citizens, from the patrol officers to the detectives to the prosecutors to the Jury and the fact that it cost money to run a jail if it is funded by the government and it’s profitable if it is privately owned is a big factor in everything working against us.
1 like@Ната for instance if you trying to convict for murder... Of x... But all you know is evidence of disappearance... It may be the case I did kill... X....but I didn't murder..x..do you know the difference?...
0 likes@robert gibson double jeopardy? No, how can it prevent you from being tried the first time?
0 likesIt is only there to prevent another retrial.
I'm assuming it was written for the innocent people. The people that wrote it realized that innocent people will be arrested and tried sometimes and wanted to at least minimize their problems by assuring that after the "not guilty" verdict they're left alone forever.
And no overzealous DA can continue to go after them. It does happen, for whatever reason, the law enforcement people want to keep prosecuting someone. This is there so that it doesn't happen.
Your logic, that someone on trial is automatically guilty, is flawed. No one is guilty until found so in court.
And while innocent people should never end up in court, it does happen. The system takes that into consideration. That's why we have trials. If it was as you say "arrested, then guilty", we wouldn't need trials at all.
@robert gibson so, whats the point? There has to be evidence of murder. Mere disappearance isn't enough to convict.
0 likes@Ната no think about it...prevention/deterrent of taking you (inoccent) to court..the law double jeopardy makes it law you can't try it again..it's not prevention that's inability.... It was designed to stop ✋ prosecution from from rushing to conclusions. And bring false charges. take the law murder it don't stop you from killing it stops you doing it again... Jail is the prevention/deterrent.... Murder is a specific crime...to murder you must plan it.....Otherwise it's not murder under the law definition.
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0 likes@Ната that's the point....disappearance... Dont prove murder... Dead body don't prove murder... Killd dead body...still not proof of murder.... Murder requires intent...planing....Here in no way was proof of murder.... We know she died...we know something went wrong... We dont know if she murderd her daughter... For all we know an accident happened not even involving mother...and she panic... So many avenues Un checked...was it possible that she is guilty of manslaughter... And inoccent of murder... Etc... That's what double jeopardy is to prevent.. Got to try "me" for the correct crime... I got him the gun I'm guilty of illegal distribution of gun...not guilty of the murder etc.....Otherwise gun shops are responsible for all murder/manslaughter committed by guns they sold...and the actual murderer / killer could still be free...I hope you understand the point.
0 likes@Hypeman 18 lol you fool "she did it" what??...did she do?
0 likes@Hypeman 18 yes you *feel*...you have no clue what happened... The possibility is endless..... You need to have a specific crime... Can't just go round putting folk in jail because you *feel*....
0 likes@Hypeman 18 oh and you correct "shot on the dark" do you know what that means. You are guessing... And spot on with "idk" you don't know why you want to jail her....
0 likes@Hypeman 18 the "let her baby sit your kids" you know how dumb that is?..... If there's nothing else, she is guilty of is negligence of her child.... Let's put all the neglectors in jail for murder? This your solution?
0 likes@Hypeman 18 you obviously don't know the law.....is killing someone murder? Because that's what she was being tried for.....murder... I say it's more than possible she killd her child but murder? Is it possible she covering? Yes... Etc...etc...Let's hope you never accused with you on jury.
0 likes@robert gibson Well if being negligent was to the point that for a MONTH your kid is gone and dies before any police are called then yeah... go to prison and throw away the key😂😂😂. For one she either killed or knew that her daughter had died and like with most of her life... tried to get out of it.
0 likes@Hypeman 18 yes I agree I THINK... You Think.... We all think.....but what do you KNOW?...if she had a bad lawyer she still would have walked.... The circumstantial evidence was presented poorly.....they didn't do there job properly. End off....we will never know what happend.
0 likes@Hypeman 18 how do we know she was aware? For those 31 days? How do you KNOW she didn't leave child with... x... these questions are unanswered.... The fact is possible her dad.... She could have been being manipulated, etc...etc.... The investigators never even explore the possibility...you the guy that's it.....no other possible... Wrong....this is why OJ walked too.
0 likes@Hypeman 18 and let's be honest.... Day 1....she main and only suspect.... They no looking for what happened.... They looking to convict that's all.
0 likes@robert gibson It's a pretty fair assumption to focus on her given how SHADY AF she had been about it since DAY 1.
0 likes@Chimene THANK YOU lol. Somebody with common sense.
0 likes@Hypeman 18 I can come up with many reasons why..... If you think about it am sure you can too....
0 likes@Hypeman 18 your correct except not excuse... Explanation.... There's a difference.... Man the argument... Hitler evil....Isn't explaining anything...... The reason for me saying this now is...if we just dismiss REASONS... How do you stop it happening again?
0 likes@Hypeman 18 here's the reason for behaviour.... (best Guess)... Her dad has been abusing her like the defence states..(hypothetical)...she is keeping secret her dad and her wer abusing child....dad accidently kill child....etc..etc...etc...now you want to convict her of murder? Keep in mined I'm talking murder as defined..in law...what she was charged with.... See the point yet?
0 likes@Hypeman 18 keep in mind you letting the actual perpetrator go free is the point.
0 likes@Hypeman 18 no you miss the point...
0 likes@Hypeman 18 look up..in this thread.....like I sad before.... I explain that....she is wasting time..... The cops at fault here...3 minute phone call would have discredited... She can't believe her luck... To smart for them.... Now that don't prove she killd anyone.... It proves only that she is a lier...and will lie to no end....that don't mean she did what your accusing....
0 likes@Hypeman 18 you still don't see why?... I think...she did it too...but I'm not prepared to send a lifetime victim to prison for crime she not guilty of...while the actual perpetrator is free to continue.
0 likes@Hypeman 18 you telling me you have 0 doubt?...
0 likes@robert gibson I have 0 doubt that she either helped or did it herself. Only a person trying to not get locked up would have done everything she did.
0 likesAn honest person genuinely seeking their child would have done the OPPOSITE of everything she did.
Lying to police is also AGAINST THE LAW in it of itself
@Hypeman 18 Bro you are the problem..... Dont jump to conclusions..... Without all the facts....you making same mistake as prosecution and investigers..... How many "obviously guilty" people we know for fact now are innocent? (actually look it up).... You are totally ignorant of reason......
0 likes@Hypeman 18 "SHE DID IT" did you witness it....?.... What did she do????? How did she do it??? Why did she do it????? If you not got point yet you never will....
0 likesyou think god will punish her for it? Lol if that is common sense... I will stick with plain old sense.
@robert gibson I WITNESSED her lying to police and giving them FALSE LEADS.. something someone who's VERY GUILTY and is trying to cover their tracks would do.
0 likesMy point is better than yours 😂😂😂. The mother is lying and giving false leads.. SHADY AF for someone who wants to find her kid.
@Hypeman 18 yes she guilty of laying...That's not a crime.... Only if in court...the point is she may be involved in much more than you "think" and that's the point.. You think. Police allowed the time waste...she cant be done for that..they a did that too (Accomplish) . Etc. Etc...Bro a crap lawyer would rip this case a new one!
0 likes@robert gibson Ever heard of "OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE" lying to police and detectives during an INVESTIGATION is a CRIME!!..
0 likesYa know why??.. cause telling them that the kidnapper is someone who DOESN'T EXIST is a waste of their time and man power that could be better spent on honest leads.
@Hypeman 18 I'm beginning to think your her dad lol...you want her to take the fall so bad... I personally want to know what happened? It definitely appears you to close to the case..to be objective.
0 likes@Hypeman 18 lol no it isn't... How many people in jail for laying to police?
0 likes@robert gibson I imagine her dad had enough common sense to realize his daughter lying to police about their granddaughters disappearance didn't sit well with him😂😂😂😂
0 likesI'm beginning to think your her boyfriend who's loyalty is undying LMAO. "Just cause she lied and created false leads... doesn't mean that she had anything to do with it!!.. makes perfect sense for a mother to send police on waste of time searches!".
@Hypeman 18 the crime is obstruction...she didn't obstruct...she led them were they asked her to go....see the fucking point yet.....
0 likes@robert gibson "lol know it isn't"
0 likesIt's "NO IT ISN'T" haha you can't even spell let alone KNOW THE LAW.
Shout out to Rachell Buffet! Who was locked up because SHE LIED TO POLICE 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Hypeman 18 I'm not defending her at ALL...learn to read... I'm defending the law.... Masive difference.... I'm defending YOUR rights....I hope to??? You never accused of a crime you didn't do....you in for a big shock If you are.
0 likesIt's because she's a woman. You get dumb people who think there's more to it or something. Like she lied to police, made up the nanny which wasted their time, googled foolproof suffocation techniques, car smelled like dead body, body was found less than a mile away from the house.. yet she walks free lol.
0 likesThe U.S court system is such a joke. Had this been a dad.. i promise you that man would be serving life for atleast negligence and lying to detectives.
@robert gibson You also aren't spelling correctly either lol. She broke laws when she lied to detectives during their search. Which in it of itself is an immediate red flag when coming from the MOTHER OF THE MISSING CHILD.
0 likesAgain.. shout out to Rachell Buffet.. who DID serve time because she lied to detectives during their investigation.. who unlike Casey.. didn't even openly admit to it.
@Hypeman 18 I'll ask you this how do you prove something you didn't do? You can't.... This is why it's the burden of the prosecution to provide proof... You did it....Can't prove a negative....
0 likes@Captainmac 100 Yupp big facts.. it's because she's a woman that she's getting leniency. You get SIMPS like robert over here who for some reason wants to play devils advocate for a woman lying to police while looking for her own daughter.. totally not suspicious at all.
0 likes@robert gibson You can prove that she LIED to investigators which in it of itself is AGAINST THE LAW. Something Rachel Buffet did and was actually punished for.
0 likes@Captainmac 100 all they proved is she is a lier... The cops wasted own time etc..etc..I already said this and more...
0 likes@Captainmac 100 how do any of this prove murder? How you know defence isn't true?
0 likes@Captainmac 100 this is an excellent example of the court system working correctly.
0 likes@robert gibson Wtf no she wasted their time with giving them lies and non existent leads. Which is against the law during an investigation. Wtf is wrong with you?
0 likes@Hypeman 18 Oh my god you aren't joking lol. There is always that one guy who has to play captain slow bus.
0 likes@Captainmac 100 it possible it was the dad (grandfather)....etc..ect..ect...the prosecution fails to look for what actually happened... They have hypotheses and just ran with it.
0 likes@Captainmac 100 how many "obviously guilty" people who we know are inoccent now for a fact? Look it up....
0 likes@Hypeman 18 Fr fr. I've seen dumb people but jesus!. Guy is on mars lol.
0 likes@Captainmac 100 that's just personal credulity... The statistical facts sho different... Inoccent People lie all the time....inoccent people confess to crimes thet didn't do etc..etc...I think she did it too...just not sure it's murder... Did she act alone? Etc etc...I'm not defending her... It's the law I'm defending... You got to get her for correct crime...Otherwise the perpetrator could be free and so on again...
0 likes@Captainmac 100 no that's not the argument... "Inoccent don't lie" is what you said....past case shows inoccent do lie....etc...etc...tell me what she did? What crime? how she did it? Why?
0 likes@robert gibson Lied to detectives during an investigation-crime. Lol now shut up
0 likes@Captainmac 100 yes I agree she knows... It's not the same...Let's just say if I'm murderd I want all involved and charged with correct crime.
0 likes@Captainmac 100 it's nothing to do with gender at all.
0 likes@robert gibson Well good thing now that nobody got charged and convicted lol. Even with one of the most obvious people present who already broke laws by lying to the investigator's who were searching for the truth of your death. That must suck.
0 likes@Captainmac 100 If she was charged with correct crime like negligence.. That sticks... Then build case for ... X....
0 likes@Captainmac 100 even at the negligence it's hard.... Is abandonment negligence?
0 likes@robert gibson the undoubtedly correct crimes were extreme negligence and obstruction of justice. Those two are unquestionably true. I'll give you that it's not proven that she killed her kid.. even though it's extremely obvious that she knows alot more than she actually told. But those first two are undoubtedly crimes she committed and was never punished for.
0 likes@Captainmac 100 the it's gender argument is just so wrong...it's circumstances... All you have is circumstantial evidence..... Against the person.... Circumstance that can be explained by.. X... We no clearer on what actually took place... You and I..etc...guess she killd her daughter.... Nun of us know. This is why she HAD to be fund not guilty of charges brought forward.
0 likes@robert gibson Yes we may not know for a fact that it was her.. but it doesn't take away how obvious it is that she knows much more than she lets on and the FACT that she did commit two crimes during this investigation and wasn't punished for either. Both of which we just spoke about.
0 likes@Captainmac 100 the thing is if she did do it....she is guilty of.. murder... And is extremely smart... The case was brought forward wrong....I'd go down route...she meticulously pland everything... Down to the last thing....she couldn't believe her luck...That's why she was laughing out loud at universal... Getting to waste time to the fullest... Longer it go on harder it's to prove what actually happened. It's the investigators job to shut this shit down asap...not aid in the shirad... Get facts...too busy trying to make her look like lier...phone call could have discredited all...and did..before they got to universal.... Etc... Blame the prosecution and investigater ... Mainly prosecution. She don't care how she looks...she cares what you can prove...outsmarted at every time.. You know why they didn't go down this route??? Because they would have to admit they been outsmarted. She wanted them to paint her as lier..etc...etc..etc..
0 likes@Captainmac 100 that was the plan...confuse...she pland it all man...she smart as fuck...those cops wer at 2 steps behind her whole time.
0 likes@Captainmac 100 If this isn't case then her defence... Is more likely.... She had so many defences pre pland, it's scary how smart she is....IF she did it.
0 likes@Karad Jans no nothing to do with gender....its Circumstance... End of..
1 like@robert gibson end of what? Dude is English your 2nd language?
0 likes@Captainmac 100 yes all part of her plan....again if we going for murder it has to be part of plan....Otherwise we need different crime....
0 likesAnd the objective was to get off with murder... You know she can't be tried again right?......why go through life looking over shoulder? To confess without confessing...That is not smart?
@robert gibson Oh my god.. it's "blooded".
0 likesAlso that's very evident that she didn't care.. about anything lol. Must be nice to be a woman in court. Shout out to Dalia dippolito
@Captainmac 100 the gender bais is from both your end...dont you think a man can use same defence?
0 likes@Chimene all religion... Is essentialy the same. My problem is I know too much about various religions...yous all pagan... Evolved. For me do god exists... I don't know....I do know that the religions are clearly wrong...no "God" of religion makes any sense... Now I have to ask you to define the word "god" to be shure we talking about the correct god of your choice? Edit.. Just got the Buddhism part...funny thing is that would probably be the way to go for me...however it's nonsense. Like the rest.
0 likesThe Conservative I'm having is with everyone... This is why you think I, don't know the religion you hail from.
@Captainmac 100 no that's not the court that's your society.... The court works... Your society is broken... Do you see difference... Dude Albert Einstein was also dyslexic man....dont make out I'm dumb because I can't spell man.. Not cool...lol....I understand all the words...the problem is I don't think you know the words you use...let alone mine....do you understand what I'm saying here?..,
0 likes@robert gibson Dude it's also your GRAMMAR that's dog crap. Lol.. honestly pretty difficult to make out what you're trying to say half the time. Like talking to a 10 year old.
0 likesThe court obviously DOESN'T work if a woman was literally breaking TWO laws and got punished for neither. Did you understand that dur durrrrrppp lmao?
@Captainmac 100 your/our society has come to rather see an inoccent in prison than a guilty go free....That's why we at this point.
0 likes@robert gibson Lol also if the court truly worked.. it wouldn't be as easily exploited as it has for decades. Mafia made it a joke. John Dillinger used it to his advantages during his sentencing. Women get leniency on a constant basis. Saying "it works" is like saying "a car never needs gas or electricity" lmao
0 likes@Captainmac 100 Bro the system is flawed... Ofcorce.... But it works...this case in particular is an excellent example of the system working correctly.... You'd rather someone go to jail who is inoccent than the guilty go free?... No inoccent should be in jail man...this is a social issue though not the court.
0 likes@robert gibson If it's FLAWED then it DOESN'T WORK lol. There you go with your dyslexia blatantly going the wrong way with how things connect. You couldn't be more wrong.. it's hilarious.
0 likes@ hypeman18 the fucked up thing is you not even willing to entertain any other possible scenario.... With nothing other than she lied....wtf? You wouldn't make a jury.
0 likes@robert gibson Dude she's blatantly flaunting that she's messing with everyone while her kid is missing??? I don't need another scenario to focus on with this OBVIOUSLY NOT INNOCENT woman is infront of me.
0 likesYou're a literal joke and I love how NO ONE has agreed with you.
@Captainmac 100 ps the court and systems are the opposite... They rather let guilty go free than inoccent in jail....they can get the guilty another time...and it's a crime to false imprison.
0 likesIf it broken it don't work...if it's flawed it's not perfect. But it works.
Lol I've been silenced... I missed some messages from you....some other response to you was for the other dude lol apologies.
As for my spelling.. You know what I mean correct? Or how do you know to correct it? And if you don't understand why not ask? As for grammar Don't =do not.. Would you like me to talk more like that....is this the problem?
It is good you see the point I am making btw....the other guy has no clue...I do not disagree with most you say again I missed them... I was too busy arguing with other guy...while you two, too busy trying to embarrass me for spelling etc...any how.. I am done trying to explain...
I guess she opened a private investigation company now too :/
0 likesThe prosecution, the jury, both grandparents, her mother and friends and family all failed Caylee. The only decent people I see are the cops who arrested Casey and tried to interrogate her during her Universal fantasy trip. What is so special about Casey that all these people protect her? Especially her parents, who created this monster by essentially allowing her to lie her way through life. They had a choice, to stand by their daughter or their granddaughter, and they chose Casey.
2 likesHere's hoping to new evidence being found that finally pins Casey to this tragedy, lets hope for a better prosecutor, and a better jury panel. Even if the prosecution did a piss poor job of proving beyond a REASONABLE doubt (not zero doubt, or no doubt), why would the jury not hold her accountable of her lies and complete guilt? It was obvious to me from the phone call to the police operator, her lies only helped to solidify her guilt in my mind. Her parents are almost as bad as her.
Karma - you never get away with anything.
2 likesI cannot believe she got off after all that. How??? People go to jail for the most miniscule stuff and she gets to walk free??
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if this was a man he would’ve got 5 life sentences
495 likesif it were any other defense attorney bet
110 likesIt's disgusting
131 likesBecause it’s a woman?
132 likes"she"
175 likesThere's your answer.
that lawyer could totally take recorded evidence of a mass shooting and have the guy that committed it be sent off with a speeding ticket
116 likesshes a WHITE woman.
293 likes@ThePanduh94 nothing to do with colour
99 likes@falu He was a bloody good lawyer...the defence attorney was dog water
41 likes@Fabian or gender. It’s was mind games and manipulation from her and her attorney that got her free. Nothing else
74 likes@Taylor Burtis Your probably right
9 likes@ThePanduh94 She's a monster and race has nothing to do with it. People who think the way you do are the problem in the US right now.
69 likes@Wes I think it’s hot
7 likes'justice' system does not work for us commoners.
14 likes@Taylor Burtis sadly it is to do with gender
74 likesstatistically women in the US serve 60% shorter sentances for the same crimes
meaning a man and a woman who have both commited the EXACT same crime go to court, the man is likely to end up with more then 2ce the amount of jail time
and thats on guilty verdicts, women are also VASTLY more likely to get innocent verdicts then men, and women who have been arrested are less likely to ever go to court then men
when it comes to the criminal justice system it is sadly VERY baised in favour of women
just look at pedophilia cases, its biased to the point when adult women abuse young boys they more often then not get away without any jail time at all
@bagreed. If she was a woman of colour she'd be in jail. She lied to police officers, obstructing justice. This is insane.
76 likes@gregsmw Same goes for white people vs people of color, the latter typically gets heavier sentences. Gender and race definitely impact sentencing in the US.
87 likesshe has a max charisma score
8 likes⚪⚫ <----- results depends on
14 likes@b Lol are you trying to say theres systemic sexism?
2 likes10 out of 12 jurors were set to vote guilty down the line. 2 jurors refused and eventually the jurors gave up to go home rather than hang the jury and declare a mistrial which is what should have happened
17 likesThanks for spoiling it
4 likes@Ian Schultz Then don't read the comments before you watch the video. It's that simple.
14 likes@Kay S absolutly yes
29 likesits shocking just how favorably young white women are treated compared to others, with the worst examples being compare to young black men who get disproportionally high sentancing
didnt expect to see you here but yeah i agree
0 likes@Fabian Yes it obviously does.
4 likesI know right? It's clear as a day that she did it and that monster got to walk away? Crazy world.
3 likes@Fabian
1 likeI would advise against sleeping with the heartless and crazy.
bruh she just got a really good attorney
6 likes@Fabian that has something to do with swaying the jury, I am sure
2 likesEspecially with the duck tape over her mouth like how !
3 likesFor now. Believe me those detectives won't let it go. One way or another she will pay for killing that beautiful little girl. Just like OJ Simpson they never gave up on him and they finally got his ass,may not have been for the murders but the got him. She will get hers,if not in this lifetime in the next,it's worth the wait for me. She will burn in hell,God doesn't forget.
4 likes@Jason Man, if there was a God, that little girl would still be alive. But I agree, she will get hers sooner or later.
5 likes@Badman Namdab Daddy chill
0 likes@Jon Knows I disagree but oh well. Satins work.
4 likesbecause WO-MAN
0 likes@Mythos Infinite Why is that?
0 likes@Fabian
5 likesHeartless and crazy people tend to ruin your life onve you involve them it. If you think keeping it to one night would keep you out of harm's way, they'll use that perceived safety to hurt you even more.
Source: I dated crazy four times.
@Mythos Infinite What if we are both heartless and crazy. I am Sadistic myself.
0 likes@Jon Knows There could be a god but definitely not any of the ones we made up. Good and evil does not exist.
1 like@Fabian It makes them a simp because she's an awful person & they're willing to date/support an awful woman & allow her to use/take advantage of them.
4 likesYea that attorney know people on the inside. People think "he just know the law" while I'm reality you gotta have connections to get someone off like this.
1 like@michael brinks You can apply that to anything. I find it hot when a girl is a murderer. What’s wrong with that? It’s all personal preference
1 like@Fabian
6 likesThen ideally, both of you ruin each others' lives and leave good people out of it.
@b 😂
0 likesI really think she just never stopped lying and it worked out by she’s a white woman who is attractive
1 like@ThePanduh94 lol
0 likes@Taylor Burtis no, women 100% get off easier for every crime. This is a statistical fact.
1 like@Fabian lol
1 like@michael brinks lol
0 likesShe's a woman duhh???
0 likes@Jason Unless she’s saved and forgiven.
0 likeswas OJ Simpson a white woman also?
4 likes@Noah Joseph saved and forgiven by who? God isn't going to save her or forgive her,not just for killing a baby but for what she put everyone through involved,come on man
1 like@Noah Joseph The lies and decite, besides she is pure evil
2 likes@b :/
0 likesdid u not watch the last part of the video?
0 likesDidn’t expect to find a poketuber here but I guess everyone’s been sucked in to this addicting channel.
1 like@ThePanduh94 wow racist much
1 likeMURICA
1 like@Wes literally stating the obvious. If she was black or a POC she would’ve gotten LIFE. it’s literally a fact.
2 likesYa can't have everything, where would you put it?
0 likes@Mason he is the defense attorney
0 likesit doesn't matter id its a man or a woman lol XD it was just her attorney who was damn good
1 likeshes a.. she.
0 likesBecause it is a man made law. Implement divine law like how Saudi Arabia has implemented and then you see results. Crime would be down by 50 percent if Sharia law is implemented.
1 like@Khedran then those 10 jurors denied 6 month old justice for her murder, and Casie can never be tried for it again. Spineless.
3 likes@Taylor Burtis I can understand that, and you’re probably right, but the numbers still show, men are much more likely to be prosecuted and experience more severe sentencing than women.
0 likes@Honesty Rules That’s oversimplifying the contrast of racial bias in the court system. There’s more to it than black and white, but that does still play a part in it, especially when there’s a jury involved.
3 likesSo was Jodi arias
0 likes@Wes This guy is probably one of those people who parades themselves by going around saying they don’t see color, and then say shit like this.
3 likesIt's pretty easy when the detectives/investigators are shit at their jobs.
3 likesThe prosecution needs to prove that the defendant committed the crime. And the only evidence they provided is that defendant googled how to suffocate someone, and the victim's remains where the cause of death was officially undetermined, but duct tape caused it to be ruled a homicide.
There was zero physical evidence that tied Casey to her daughter's murder. The prosecution thought that her constant lies and her apparent lack of care about her daughter was going to be enough to get a conviction.
And maybe if the jury just based their verdict off of personal feelings, instead of the rule of law, maybe they would've convicted her.
But even then, there would be grounds for appeal- because there was absolutely zero evidence that proves she's guilty of the crime.
No eyewitness, no reciepts for buying a canvas bag, absolutely no forensic evidence. Practically nothing but circumstantial evidence.
Hell, 99.9% of the reason people thought she was guilty was because she lied constantly, and didn't play the part of a grieving woman.
So I ask you - if she, like many other convicted murderers, even female ones, was able to come up with a convincing tale, cry in all the right spots, and tell lies that were a lot harder to disprove, would you still think she was guilty?
Because, if you look at the actual evidence (what little of it there was), there is nothing that proves she killed anyone. That's why the media, and this video, focused so heavily on Casey's character.
@Digital_Utopia there was physical evidence linking Caylee’s corpse to Casey’s car. The defense of I didn’t do it but if I did it was an accident is an obvious red flag. She got off because the jury was stupid.
0 likes@Wes why didnt you respond to the people making it about gender the same way?
0 likes@Steven Norris Even if there was, which wasn't mentioned here, the prosecution still has to place Casey in the car at the time. Since the car left her possession- placing the body in the trunk is not sufficient.
0 likes@Nocthe Medic Post the actual statistic then. Because in Canada, that is extremely far from the truth, as well as many other countries. Unless this is just the US, which I highly doubt. There are mitigating factors for every single case. So stated that is false, not sure which statistics you are reading.
0 likes@Taylor Burtis it kinda does tho, I hate to admit it but women get off much more frequently then men.
0 likes@Fabian She is pretty though. Attractive people always get special treatment, no matter their color.
0 likes@Fabian no
1 likeShe cute dats why
0 likes@▪︎▪︎1am▪︎▪︎ no what?
0 likes@Fabian just no, that's it
1 like@1017 yes there is
0 likes@b pretty white girls 🤦♂️
0 likes@Fabian it does. it goes way deeper than you think
0 likes@ThePanduh94 Its just the woman part that is needed, thats the key ingredient.
0 likesThis is White America fam
0 likes@Fabian wrong
0 likesWamen
0 likesuzijn that’s not true but ok,,,
0 likesjoe mama as he should !
0 likes@Kay S bruh stop the baseless lies. White ppl dnt get less time for the same crime comparative to poc. Jesus
0 likes@the cunt tree side lmao
1 like@Honesty Rules okay
1 like@Kay S lmao
1 likeIt only takes a pretty woman to smile in order to influence a whole jury it seems.
1 like@Alfredinho You are blind MANNNN
0 likes@Boolean Illogical That's my point though. It has to do with YOU not race/sex/religion etc etc.
0 likes@Wes nothing to do with gender either. You get mad when people bring up "white" because you're white, but don't care when people bring up that it's a woman?
0 likes@b as sad as that sounds i agree, woman def have it easier in this cruel life we live in
0 likescus shes a woman
0 likesShe knew something
0 likes@Fabian Well I understand your frustration sir. But I think we need to stop for a second and think about that.. There was lack of evidence and also she and hers attorney were simply too good compared to police and other attorney..
0 likes@uzijn Well I understand your frustration sir. But I think we need to stop for a second and think about that.. There was lack of evidence and also she and her attorney were simply too good compared to police and other attorney..
0 likesIt’s because shes “pretty”
0 likesShe's white rich privileged girl, of course she'll get away with it
1 like@Fabian 6 comments saying its because shes a woman but the second someone mentions skin color thats too far for you lmao
0 likes@1017 Towards men? Completely.
0 likesOne word: woman.
0 likes@ThePanduh94 white doesnt matter. But there definitely is a bias towards women.
0 likes@Descend white absolutely does matter lol
1 like@Aya Tanaka fair enough, sorry lol im tired as shit
0 likesJudges are the issue.
0 likesProbably sacrificed her child just my guess than they put airheads on the jury, and judge to not convict her.
0 likesF.A Corner blind
0 likeswhite woman in florida
0 likes@Wes 100%! You took the comment right from my fingertips.
1 like@velvuhts Agreed
0 likes@Nora Woods No wonder the "justice is blind" statue is a white woman.
0 likesIts all about 💰
0 likesBecause she’s white. If this was a black woman she would have been charged and charged harshly.
0 likesgender and race shouldnt matter not one bit with the law everyone deserves equal sentences for the same crimes no matter what. the problem is statistically women get lesser or easier sentences compared to men who have done the same crime. which shouldnt happen in the first place yet it is which is disgusting tbh
0 likeswelcome to america, where you can buy your freedom
0 likes@Jason Are you a Christian?
0 likes@Wes no, I hate to tell you, it is a combination of her lawyer her race and her gender. Had she been a black woman living in poverty and this happened she would be in jail, it's people who refuse to believe in systematic racism that are the issue, had she been a man she would have been in jail, sexism is real, and had she been a black man she would have gotten the death sentence just because you don't want to accept it doesn't mean it's not the issue
0 likesShe's a white woman. That's why
0 likessad story
2 likesFact , a less attractive person would have been convicted ,change my mind .
2 likesNo signs of mental illness ?
2 likesAnd I'm a porn star.
Everybody hate this woman for a very good reason. She is unbearable!
1 likehow that awful evil woman is not in jail i dont know how can she live with her self
1 like"You look like angel
1 likeYou talk like an angel
You walk like an angel...
But I got wise
You're the devil in disguise"
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5000% correct
0 likes1:07:13 BOARDER TO BOARDER haha XD lol
1 likeBELIEVE IN WOMEN
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all of them?
0 likesHOW COME???HOW THE FUCK??? .her diary,her tatoo,her internet srches!!!!and she walks free???? WTF????
1 likeSay what you want they still couldn’t prove it 🤷♂️
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It’s like you see someone coming out from a room with a bloody knife and in the room lies a dead body. The situation seems so obvious, however due to you not having a physical proof of that individual stabbing, then that obvious murderer is “nOt GiLtY”
0 likesAnd real life is not a mystery movie with 20 plot twist, in real life the most obvious choice tends to be the correct one, specially in this case, but that’s how broken justice is.
giga hedonist
0 likesI just wish this case of propaganda and not truthful because this is just pure evil.
0 likesso far for the legal system
0 likesThis feels like a big injustice
0 likesI don’t get it! Why is she free then? She does not deserve freedom !
0 likesShe is SO. GUILTY.
0 likesI know the parents fucked up really bad, but they were so good on the phone oh my gosh
0 likesThis jury was as bad as the OJ jury......
0 likesWish there was a place worse than prison for people like this…
0 likesUnfortunately the law system failed 😨
0 likesoh boy did she manipulate her poor weak parents.
0 likesok ok Juliette Lewis is the chick from NATURAL BORN KILLERS seriously woody an his dame crazy
0 likesdid nothing ever happen to casy after being found not guilty ?
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She was found guilty of lying to cops and interfering with a police investigation. She had been in jail 3 years while awaiting trial and they applied that time served to her sentence. She spent another couple of weeks in jail after the trial to finish that sentence and was released.
0 likesShe has inferiority complex the way she talks to the Detectives in excitement agrees to stuff they say without even thinking what is being said 45:20 wtf thats her being philosophical
0 likesThere was something about the testimony of George’s girlfriend. a tragic accident that snowballed.
0 likes"She had both of you"
0 likesCasey's defense was basically that she was molested as a child, therefore she couldn't possibly be guilty. And the jury ate it up and forgave her for everything, knowing fully well that she probably did it. There really has to be a point where people realize that it doesn't matter if you were hurt as a child, it doesn't excuse you killing a child as an adult.
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BINGO
148 likesI agree but somehow femininity and beauty seems to affect people's brains. The jury wasn't all happy, which shows how dangerous the system is. Imagine this the other way around, wrongfully accusing someone because of appearances or lack thereof.
185 likesShe probably did it...you said it yourself. There was zero proof that showed she murdered her daughter. And that is what the entire case against her was based on. If that wasnt proven, you cant convict based on a probably.
134 likesThe jury's decision had zero to do with the excuse that she was molested. It had everything to do with the FACT that they were not able to pin Caylee's death on her.
I mean it was just a very late term abortion so hey
29 likesOur society is weak now. They think punishment is torture
21 likesExactly. And it works the other way too. A "friend", when i told her Id been molested as a child, said that ppl who have been molested as a child usually grew up to be molesters the selves. I was around 25 at the time and was mortified
30 likesShe is (at least) a pathological liar and nothing that comes out of her mouth is to be believed, therefor I would have a hard time as a juror to find her guilty without any physical evidence. Maybe this video did not present the physical evidence clearly?
24 likes@Sodomis666 I followed the trial very closely. The prosecution had a lot of evidence. Everything except the one thing that they needed to convict Casey Anthony of the murder charge she was charged with. Florida is known for putting tons of emotion into charges without really thinking about it (see the George Zimmerman case). They couldve easily charged her with something like child endangerment, child abuse, covering up a crime, etc etc, and in reality any of those convictions and she probably would've gotten the book thrown at her. Wouldn't have been life, but it probably would've taken 10 years of her life away. And rightfully so. There's just no way any jury in the country with even any shred of a brain could send her away for life based on the liklihood that she was responsible for her daughters death. And even if that was proven, it still doesnt prove murder.
62 likesThat and she's white and female didnt hurt.
34 likesThe real issue was the da over charging her without the evidence. He was the idiot that ruined the case, not the jurors. Learn to read bro and don’t post things when you don’t know anything about what you are talking about.
13 likes@NothingToPointOut24 not probably, she DID murder her. There wasn't "zero proof" that she did it, just by the actual facts that she researched about how to suffocate someone around the same day her daugther went missing and that her daughter was found with duct tape in her mouth/nose was enough to get her convicted, why would she duct tape her daugther's mouth after she died from "drowning" according to her?
42 likesThe jury was batshit insane in this case and the prosecutors made a terrible job from pointing this out.
@Vincenzo Del Lama Responsible for her death and actually murdering her are two different things. If you think she murdered her, then thats fine. I dont think thats what happened at all. I think thats what she staged to make it seem like Caylee was taken and killed by someone else.
3 likesI also think her father helped her stage that. He was an ex cop and had to have seen plenty of murder scenes so he knew exactly how to make it look. In the end, it worked.
4 likes@NothingToPointOut24 I don't think, I know based on the evidence of the search history and duct tape with the conflicting statement that her daughter drowned, along with all the other evidence that she wanted her daughter gone.
19 likesYour argument makes no sense whatsoever based on the evidence and the made up story that her daughter drowned.
If her father is an ex-cop he would never help her stage a murder of an accidental death as he knew that upon an authopsy they would rule her death as drowing, and an accidental death would put her to jail for far less time than risking her being found guilty of murder. And even if they were this stupid why didn't they keep the murder story instead of saying that she drowned?
@Vincenzo Del Lama I never said anything about her drowning. I dont believe that she drown and never said she did and that Casey panicked. I said I believe Casey was responsible for Caylee's death and that it was accidental.
2 likesIf you would convict based on that, I hope you never find your way onto a jury in this country anytime soon.
@Matthew Olsen I AGREE!!! COULDN'T !!! But I'm sure she's had a few
0 likes@Vincenzo Del Lama Lol I've probably said about 3 times that she deserved jailtime and was responsible for her daughters death. I guess I should be more like you and base my opinion 100 percent on emotion like a 6 year old.
2 likesReally hope you never find your way onto a jury in your life if thats the way you decide someones fate.
@Vincenzo Del Lama And BTW, you self liking your comments dont make em anymore true
2 likes@Vincenzo Del Lama I've shared plenty on this topic. Im not going to change your mind and you arent going to change mine so we'll keep it at that. But I guarantee that we could go through other high profile murder cases where murder wasnt proven either, and you'd say those people were guilty too based on minimal evidence and media/public outrage. Its scary what people can read online or be told by a news anchor and base their opinions all on that
1 likeOr maybe you have an issue with Casey Anthony herself. Who knows. All I know was that there wasnt much outrage from people who didnt base their opinion 100 percent on emotion, on this case, when the verdict was announced. And I can guess which category you fall under.
That’s why the jury-system sucks
3 likes@CyberGothika juries are horrendous there should only be appointed government officials who decide the verdict in a 1 party state, in my opinion.
2 likesLook at Derik Chauvin, he had no chance of getting free in Mineapolis because of the politics of that state, whereas with the same evidence in a southern state he may have walked free with all charges dropped, with a jury there is no consistency in the law dispite the USA only having one constitution for all 50 states.
Sadly, that is not the case. The jury listened to the defense lawyer who actually laid it all on the table; your job as a jury is not to make a judgement call, it is to dissect the evidence provided by the prosecution and deem the person guilty in accordance. We all know she did it, the jury knows, but their charge is not to convict her on their gut feeling, which everyone shares, about circumstantial evidence.
3 likes@NothingToPointOut24 the fact that she lied so much and that she made up people to seem believable proves that she is certainly guilty.
11 likes@louis leycuras Guilty of what exactly though? Lying? Making people up? Hate to break it to ya, but that doesnt get you convicted on a murder charge without much more evidence being against you. The fact that people cant grasp that concept is scary.
6 likesbeing molested has nothing to do with her murder. that's bullshit.
6 likesI think the reason is simpler. She was pretty and a woman and people are programmed to believe women are good mothers and if she claimed innocence that was all they needed to validate their programming.
3 likes@Sid Viscus:
6 likesThe fact that you said “probably” guilty is enough to acquit or find NOT guilty.
We can not find people guilty with a lucky guess or a “possibility” of guilt.
@John Smith Exactly, that's what probably means it's possible and not possible, both chances exist.
0 likes@Presticles1 That's one possibility. Lets say for sake of argument that she didn't kill her child, then who killed her? If she was drowned in the pool why put a duct tape over mouth and put her in a trash bag and throw her body in the bushes? it proves that she wasn't drowned but murdered.
1 like@Vincenzo Del Lama couldn’t it have also been the boyfriend though? He also would have access to duct tape, Caylee, and his girlfriends computer. Plus he would’ve stood to gain from his girlfriend having more free time.. I just like you believe Casey did it but the prosecution just didn’t have the goods.
3 likesONLY BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN!!!!
1 like@wavebuurgSlim Exactly, the Prosecution did not prove beyond reasonable doubt - even some of the Jurors said so.
4 likes@Villanelle I believe once they caught her in so many lies they rushed it and zeroed in on her. They even charged and indicted her for murder before they even found the body.. All investigators aren’t suited for high profile cases like this one was. The simplest of mistakes can ruin the investigation.
6 likesit because she a girl if she was a man she would be in prison
2 likesPROBABLY being the key word. gotta hand it to the defense, they really hammered that home. turned a lost cause into a win somehow
1 like@Antz Pantzz the first person I told said the same thing to me and it has fucked with me since. I was 8, I hope you find comfort in the fact that you aren't alone but I'm also so sorry that something so cruel was said and done to you. You're loved and cherished, take care 💕
1 like@brown_ gurl 💕💕💕
1 like@CyberGothika exact same thing happened with that tik tok guy who killed that mother driving. he was attractive so everyone fought for him and he got away with jt
2 likesthank you so much for explaining. it's always enlightening when a seasoned defense attorney explains the ins and outs of the very complicated legal system.
0 likesWOW, Sid. I mean, have some nuance about ya, my guy!
0 likes.......................I'm just kidding, Casey Anthony is literal garbage, lol.
Frrr not only that but did she cry at all while they were describing what happened o her daughter? No, but wants to cry when they start talking about her troubles! Thats just bizarre to me.
1 like@Learner sorry for the ignorance but what does POS mean?
0 likesActually the defense was there is no evidence.
0 likesThey didn't eat it up, they all thought she was guilty. But you can't convict somebody based on what you think, even if you feel it's obvious. You need to all agree that there was proof beyond doubt, and they all thought it was a small possibility that the child drowned in the pool.
5 likesHer defense wasn't that being molested made her kill her daughter. It was that being molested is how she was able to hide her pain her whole life, and pretend life is normal to everyone.
It was a brilliant strategy. That's why it worked. Her lawyer knew how to paint the exact picture he wanted.
@NothingToPointOut24 They did charge her with all of that, she was found not guilty of murder, aggravated child abuse, and aggravated manslaughter. She was found GUILTY of 4 other charges involving Caylee, and they gave her the maximum sentence of "time served", and she was released....
2 likesHer defense has nothing to do with it. The prosecution reached too far without enough supporting evidence and the jury couldn't convict based on lack of evidence.
5 likesIt’s not a defense or an excuse but an explanation, if the attorney can find no true reason that they aren’t guilty they might be but in the same sense the jury can’t prosecute someone without any real evidence being presented to them
2 likesThat ain't why. The prosecutor could not prove when or how little Caley was murdered and ethe defense exposed the fact that her father is basically a liar.
1 likeThere was actually no proof her father molested her. Her attorney brought it up in his opening argument, then didn't mention it again. An attorney is supposed to say what they will show, through evidence, during the case. But he didn’t even try to bring in evidence to that effect. He didn’t question the dad, the mom, or Casey about it. What he did was unethical. Since he said it but didn't follow up, the prosecution could have asked that his opening statement be stricken from the record, either in whole, or at least as to that part.
1 likeThe prosecution missed that opportunity. They also charged her with higher crimes than they could prove. Throw in asking for the death penalty, and the prosecution made a big old mess of this case.
@WhyOhWhy ? It showed that he could possibly be liar himself.
0 likes@JAMBERRY They showed nothing to prove that the dad was a liar, but they planted doubt in the jury. They made that up about the dad, the Private I was there when they thought of it, they were going to say it about the meter reader who found Caylee's body but the story about the dad was better. Even you believed it based on nothing, that's why it's a good lie.
0 likesThat's why I hate why things like past trauma or mental illness are used as excuses to get people more lenient sentences or get off a crime completely.
0 likesI'm aware some people have lived through horrible things, but that isn't an excuse for murder. We all get dealt a hand of cards in life, some people get a good hand, some a decent hand and some a bad hand but the actions a person takes in their life are their responsibility, no one else's.
If it were up to me, factors like that would not play into someone's sentencing. It would be as simple as if they committed the crime (with proof above a reasonable doubt), then they are guilty and they serve the appropriate sentence. I would have the same outlook on the death penalty.
The only area where I'm split on is when it comes to children or teens as it's well known that people don't usually start thinking 100% straight until they're in their mid-twenties. But that wouldn't remove their culpability because no matter the age, everybody knows that murder is wrong. So I can understand how they get a lesser/more lenient sentence but I'm still a bit split on that. I think sentences should be much stricter for severe crimes and think the death penalty should be on the table if there is undeniable proof linking somebody to murder. I think if that were the case, people would think a bit more about committing crimes like that and I also think that anybody who had killed an innocent person should lose their right to life as well and get the death sentence...
I was beaten and molested n not one time could I ever hurt one of mine. I never let them out my site either unless I fully trusted them. I let my girls stay few hours with my sister n one of her girls hurt mine n ol dad tried to cover it up trying t get my baby to lie about it
1 like@Marie Williams The person who posted the comment is confused. The reason the defense brought up Casey's "molestation" was ONLY to explain why Casey was able to bury her sad feelings when she was around strangers. They needed a reason she was good at wearing a smile when she was in pain.
4 likesThe whole thing was BS, but it was a good explanation for the jury since they didn't know anything about Casey. We had the benefit of everything we learned on TV.
but the horror she must have gone through as a child she was touched by an adult "sexually" thats pretty crazy and now i feel bad for everything she has gone though life.
0 likesthink about the PTSD she must be facing daily OMGGGGGG
in your comment you said "knowing fully well that she *probably* did it" that is a not guilty verdict. Probably is not good enough to sentence someone to the electric chair.
2 likesAmerica's legal systems is screwed
0 likesYeah my friend was Molested when he was a kid and he never thought about doing any over that, it's not a good defence for her, shes of course guilty, the judge made a critical error in letting her walk free she needs to be Admitted to a Instatution at the least
1 like@Jeff King The defense used the abuse to explain why she lied about the death and to police, not as her defense for the murder. The defense exploited the states burden of proof to simply cast doubt on whether they had enough evidence to convict her, since they didn't have direct proof or DNA/ Physical evidence to place her there or say she definitively caused the death. and in the jury system a jury with any doubts rules not guilty.
0 likesStill it's the kind of case that kills your faith in the justice system. She definitely did it, and the fact she got to walk out and get away with murder on a technicality is infuriating.
the sad part is tat because of these cases, child abuse increase at highest rate like arthur labinjo, then stay hobson so many.
0 likes@Billy Smith The main thing the prosecution was missing was a cause of death for Caylee, and they didn't have any physical evidence that placed Casey at the scene like DNA. If they had that, combined with the journal entries and the circumstancial evidence like the blockbuster tapes they could've really changed the case. Also, apparantly her parents are liars too, and are suspected of prejury or "selective memory" during the case, so it was something planned for sure.
0 likes@NothingToPointOut24 you think it was accidental? Ive watched this case inside and out and I don't think it was accidental at all. I hope u dont get into any jury either if thats what you got from this case. Especially as she searched on top of having duct tape on her nose mouth. She even wrote in her journal that she felt the "best " in the time she was missing, she also wrote about how she had "done something sinful, something that cannot be named" like that does not sound accidental what so ever. I agreed with most you said about the court and they can't convict her with the evidence they had, however in my own opinion looking into this case it is very obvious it was her and not an accident. Not basing on emotions but all the actual evidence leading towards it, it's obvious to everyone.
1 like@NothingToPointOut24 also i find it really ironic how you're saying they're liking their own comments but they have plus 10 pn theirs and you only have 1 🤣
2 likes@Misty the Mischievous thats exactly what Im saying. The mom after all that….decided to lie to save Casey.
0 likesI was hurt as a child and I wouldn’t wish that on anyone let alone another child
0 likesIn my opinion, sexual assault affords people waaaay to much social currency. Both for true victims and liars. Thats why we get get so many women lying about being a victim, because they get something from it, whether that be attention, sympathy, or excuses for behavior. Obviously, we should have sympathy for victims, but we shouldn't give them more attention or different treatment than non victims. This is healthier for everyone involved, a real victims legal ad social treatment shouldn't be influenced by a bad thing that happened to them, their abuser shouldn't have that influence over their life. It would also prevent liars from receiving any benefits from the label of 'sexual assault survivor', which would stop the lies from happening in the first place, because they lie for the benefits.
0 likes@JustCallMe Amber so sorry for you thats awful
0 likes@Vincenzo Del Lama I agree with everything you are saying. I don’t understand why people think the death was accidental? For people to say “I don’t believe she drowned”, “but I do believe it was accidental” makes no sense! If they believe the accident theory, surly the would believe the drowning lie? To say this was an accident, I have to put to them - You don’t accidentally put duck tape over your child’s face, then accidentally watch the child struggle to breath, then accidentally watch your kid die. Did CA accidentally, wrap her kid in a blanket proven to be from her parents home, trip and the little girls body accidentally fell into a laundry bag, also from the parents home. Maybe little Kaylee accidentally came back to life, zipped herself in the laundry bag after it was dumped in the woods, pulled the tape back over her nose and mouth, then accidentally suffocated herself. I understand there wasnt circumstantial evidences tying her to the scene but when you look at ALL the other evidence, it honestly points to CA, killing her child. She waited over a month to report it, infact it wasn’t even her that did, it was her parents, then she lied to the police, misleading the entire investigation, halting any attempts to find the child, the smell of a dead body in her car, her compulsive lying that the child was with the “nanny”, that she had spoken to the child even though that was impossible as she was dead at this point, the internet search history of suffocation & SHOCK the child is found with mouth/nose duck tapped that causes suffocation, her changing her story saying she drowned, saying it was accidental, so why if that’s the case, would you put duck tape over her face, then dump your beautiful babies body in a wood for animals to rip it apart? As a mum myself, I’d be beside myself if I knew my daughter was all alone in the woods, because even when someone dies, you still think of them as a person attached to the body they had. That kid was disposed like trash! Her death will never have justice, you don’t put duck tape on a body if they died of drowning. Why make something that was accidental look like a murder? Accidents happen but you get the death penalty for murder in FL. None of it makes sense logically. Anyone advocating and sticking up for CA, should be ashamed, as they as basically saying what happened to that little girl, doesn’t matter. That’s what is horrific in this case, people forgot a child was murdered, and focused on CA life, even though it was all based on lies.
0 likesngl i am more intrested if that abuse acusation was actualy true....i mean only shows what monsters could lurk in your family...he father seemed so nice and i wonder if the wife knew
0 likesFACTS.
0 likesThats how it is with woman
0 likes@Loud Mein Heresay
0 likes@Derk churk youre so cute when youre in denial.
1 like@Matthew Olsen oh my god
0 likes@Dogoshi N obviously. Its an easy way for a lawyer to get his female client set free or have their sentence lowered. make a false rp allegation.
0 likes@CyberGothika you stand your ground in the jury process and get beat down by others who just want to submit the verdict and go home. Imagine having a group of people deciding a criminal's fate and everyone of them just wants to close the book and get out of there, let's get to a quick verdict so I can go home and watch Duck Duynasty...
0 likes@NothingToPointOut24 dude… really? Smh
0 likes@CyberGothika beauty ???where ?
0 likes@NothingToPointOut24 She literally admitted to misleading the case (in her own words as well). Why would she do that?
0 likesYes, she probably did it. You can't convict a person on "probably". The jury made the right decision.
0 likes29:43 HAD
0 likes23:58 realizes she said "had" and fixes it
@NothingToPointOut24 did u see all the proof and how she was acting dude are u slow or sum
0 likesThat's not true in the slightest!! The jury couldn't convict Casey because the evidence just wasn't there, it was all circumstantial, and they have to be able to convict without reasonable doubt, and I think it's obvious to an idiot that they just couldn't do that.
0 likes@NothingToPointOut24 Exactly! Thank God there are some with critical thinking skills here
0 likes@Sparing Pickle Yes!! Exactly!
0 likes@Vincenzo Del Lama No it wasn't enough to convict her, because there were several people who lived in the house Casey lived in, therefore it could not be proved Casey was the one who made those Internet searches. And the duct tape had no evidence from the murderer on it. So no, they didn't have any evidence
0 likes@NothingToPointOut24 There is no way George helped. No way. He was an absolute broken man, I cannot see him ever helping with that
0 likes@Vincenzo Del Lama 💯
0 likesThrew dad under the bus?
0 likesIs he going to a trial now?
She never was molested for her father the proof was in the video recording from jail when she was talking with her parents she said to his father you are the best father I could have. 😳?????
0 likesyea like no prison okay but be locked away in a psychiatry then I guess. I am psychically ill but if I ever were to do something this bad I go to a hospital before telling them I am very ill and need a therapist NOW and STAY in that hospital. If I dont I want it to happen basically... And if you cant control yourselves well n did it already well - gotta get ya locked up. In either a prison or a psychiatry. why should you be free as a threat to other people.
0 likes@NothingToPointOut24 People have been given life for less
0 likes@Derk churk Being sexist isn’t better than being racist.
0 likesPREACH
0 likesYour son on, it should be the opposite.
0 likesYeah your childhood is no excuse for how you act as an adult. I had a childhood that was so bad that if people knew what I went through they wouldn't believe it could be true.. I sucked it up and grew tf up
0 likesoddly the molested into never being guilty (like anyone who met prince andrew as a child) wasn't even the whole reason why she wasn't found guilty. The official reason the jury cited afterwards was that they didn't have a video of the murder.
0 likesYes, so many ppl blame their bad childhood for drug abuse, sexual misconduct etc. But you can't blame a shitty childhood tthe rest of your life. They just need to get their shit together and grow up. We all have some trauma big or small but we don't blame everything on that..
0 likes@KathelDunne Yes lets pretend it doesnt happen. Which is exactly why it will continue.
0 likesThe defence was irrelevant to the case. The case was lost due to incompetent prosecution
1 like@NothingToPointOut24 I agree. I hate to say it, but from what was shown in the vid, prosecution failed to make an adequate case. I agree she almost certainly killed her own child, and I personally have no doubts about it that I consider reasonable given the evidence presented in the vid, but it looks like in court, the prosecution failed.
0 likes"she probably did it" is not grounds for conviction. I too believe she did it but nevertheless you still do need evidence to convict someone in court, otherwise it's just a kangaroo court.
1 likeShe didn’t report her missing for a month, internet search history for chloroform, car smells like dead body, body found near home, and she seemingly doesn’t even care that her daughter is dead. At the very least she is guilty of severe child neglect and yet she walks free to this day while we have people spending years in jail for petty shit like possession of marijuana. The justice system is ridiculous.
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no literally it's disgusting.
201 likesAnd she tried to point all to the nanny that never existed
280 likesI hope she gets in jail one day, for some bullshit thing she does, because she isn't in jail for this already
83 likesI hope the judge becomes a lawnmower instead, that would suit him more.
85 likesOut of all this evidence, the jury* chose innocence.
Wow
I think the US Justice system is like a B movie, cringy but entertaining. Kind like a bad joke.
61 likes"The justice system is ridiculous.". Absolutely, it's a total catastrophe, failed system.
42 likes@Marlon I think the nanny did actually exist, which is worse. She tried to sue and everything but it just never went through.
6 likes@Missy Blue according to the video they said she wasn’t a real person, that Caylee never had a babysitter... Never heard about this case beforehand so could be that she tried to sue her (or a made-up person) 😅. Think it is far worse if the nanny isn’t a real person cuz then she’s blaming someone that she knows doesn’t exist making her guilty
29 likes@Blake Garcia no no no, I didn't mean that she did actually have a nanny nicknamed Zanny. Im saying how there was actually a women who got harassed because she had the exact same name and background as Casey had described. She tried to sue for defamation. This is what I'm talking about
29 likeshttps://www.wtsp.com/mobile/article/home/will-the-real-zanny-the-nanny-please-stand-up/67-387585955
@Blake Garcia should've put questions on the nanny part. My fault
5 likesyeah but she is white so..
12 likesSHE IS FREE? WHAT
3 likesBut.. You have to prove her guilt, that's easy with weed as evidence
2 likes@Alexandre Alves a joke that's not funny
0 likes@Missy Blue what???
0 likes@King Arthur ??
2 likesExactly!
0 likes@Kenzis um I don't think you understand the legal system at all. No one gets declared innocent by a judge in a criminal trial, the options are guilty and not guilty. Most defendants choose to have a jury decide their guilt or non-guilt as Casey Anthony did. A jury of her peers decided the state did not meet it's burden of reasonable doubt to convict her. The judge had nothing to do with her not guilty verdict.
10 likesThat sounds like lot of speculation :) She is really cute, though
0 likes💯💯💯
0 likesCan a Florida man make this right?
2 likes@bow wow I don't even know how those people sleep at night WOW
3 likesand there is a ton of racist detentions and inspections... the PD is so rotten that good cops barely catch a breath
2 likesSource? Curious if true
1 like@Kenzis The judge has no say in the decision, its all on the jury, which seems to have been very gullible to Casey's defense team.
3 likeswoman privilege
2 likesIf you think USA is bad, go look at Sweden or Canada lol. Convicted child killers get even less years than in USA...
1 likecares more about "stuck in this fking jail, wasting my time" when asked is the Tony thing about finding Caylee "no it's not" so let me get this right her concern is all about herself instead of her own daughter. hmmmm
5 likesFind me one person with no prior record / on probation in jail for years for possession....
1 likeWhile I partially agree. You lose me at the end. "Spending years on jail for petty possession" is just a complete lie. You've watched too much tv. Go look up your state convictions for possession. No one is being give years for marijuana possession.
2 likesIf you want to make solid point about injustice don't lie in order to make it. And hey, maybe you aren't deliberately lying but you definitely have been sold a lie.
@Kenzis They jury get to decide not the judge.
1 likeCouldn’t have said it better it’s crazy
0 likes@Verm1n Aha ok, im sorry, english is not my first language, i thought it's the same thing.
0 likes@Hauptmann itas they are haunted by it. One of the jurors said that he thinks about the case every single day in an interview
3 likes@sacha def You need to check out how many men are not getting convincted for rape, harassment and murders (especially of their female partner - often despite similar proofs as in the case of Casey) instead of claiming 'woman privilege' lmao.
2 likesIt's almost like a 1 hour YouTube video doesn't give you all the context. Sarcasm aside, this is a great documentary of the trial, but like all things, is presenting facts through a specific lens.
0 likesThe "justice system" that you're referring to is a group of individuals, probably like you. To call it "ridiculous" is to imply that because you're mad, you should be able to condemn someone to death without taking time to further understand the situation.
The justice system exists to prevent surges of emotion from condemning someone to death or taking away their freedoms on a whim.
@wobdub And Female.
1 like@RewiredHuman We're just talking about this case...
0 likesYou can thank juries that nearly always automatically sympathize with female accused
0 likesthey say good people die first and bad people live longer looks to me we live in evil world
0 likesand evil has the upper hand i agree totally with you
Florida...
0 likesThat’s why you shouldn’t have a jury of just every day normal people decide whether someone is guilty or not 🤷🏼♀️I never understood that about the US justice system.
0 likesWhy what did I say wrong
0 likesAll said is more evil people on this planet than good
@RewiredHuman ur slow
0 likesLol lol no I hate that stuff
0 likesAnother thing is her nanny zanny so her babysitting could of been her feeding her child Xanax
0 likesI mean yes of course she is very likely the killer but it was never actually proven. Therefore I think it was right that she wasn't convicted.
1 like@bow wow That's why we don't have juries over here in Germany. Over here Casey wouldn't have gotten away with this shit. Okay, we also don't have death penalty or "life without parole" (only the very worst and obviously psychopathic criminals sometimes get "lebenslange Haft mit anschließender Sicherheitsverwahrung", which means, that you CAN be paroled after at least 15 years in prison, but not to get set free again, but to be still locked up in prison, just not in a cell, but in a kind of "shared household" with other inmates being your "roommates", which is ALMOST like being free, but not quite....you can do what you want, you live in a kind of shared apartment, you have your own room, your own food, your own shared kitchen, your own shared bathroom, but you can't leave prison anyway...). Also SOME VERY FEW convicts never get paroled or decline applying for parole. Most "life" setences last between 16 and 20 years over here, with the average life setences actually lasting 18,9 years, about 18-20% last up to 25 years and the rest....well...they're still in there....one guy has been sitting in jail for over 50 years now, he was always denied parole and during the last 20 or so years, he didn't even apply to it, probably because he understand that he missed his whole life anyway and that he probably won't get along with how much everything has changed since he got sentenced.
0 likes@wobdub 💯💯💯
0 likes@Hauptmann itas the county they picked the jury pool from probably had an average iq of 85, when I saw they were using some backwoods podunk town where the average income is under 30k a year, I knew she was walking.
0 likes@Tanel Viil correct, they voted for Joe Biden
0 likes@RewiredHuman I think it goes for both.
0 likes@Kenzis The judge doesn't decide on guilt, in the American system. The jury does.
0 likesThe smell was discussed a lot in court, and the defense tried to establish, possibly successfully, that it wasn't a reliable evidence. Casey's mother testified that it was her who searched for chloroform. A mistress of Casey's father testified that he had confided in her that the death was "an accident that snowballed". The theory of the defense states that the girl died at home, and that the death was hidden at the urge of Casey's father, so it makes sense that the body would be found nearby, regardless of how she actually died. That she didn't give a shit about her dead daughter (or at least appear not to) doesn't prove that she murdered her. When you look a bit into the details, there are a lot of them that cast doubt about Casey's guilt, in fact.
1 like@Dennis Richard guess you’ve never heard of the zero tolerance laws… you could literally get 10-15 for having a marijuana seed in your possession.
0 likesShe’s free?
0 likesIf she drowned in a pool at home, why was there duct tape over her nose, mouth and face ??? Cold blooded sociopathic killer. What is she up to these days - did the bf she wanted to party with stick around?
1 like@Kenzis She was in jail for over 2 years awaiting trial...
0 likesI don't know whether she is the culprit or not... But she made ridiculous stories about nanny and her never existing friends and she went to the place for find them with the prosecutor. Wasted their time knowingly and throughout this investigation she never even feel sad or sorry about her daughter (except when she feels unsecure about herself)......it's very uncomfortable and unjustified the whole case... Very disappointing
2 likesHer gender definitely has something to do with it
0 likes@Starlight Wolves I said show me an example. Not a hypothetical...
0 likesReading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
@Kenzis The judge didn’t find her not guilty - the jury did!!
0 likes@Marlon she completely lied about the whole work place and staff even wasted 25 mins of their time 🤬🤬
1 like@sacha def *white woman privilege
0 likeslike duct tape? whatever about the hiding things because apparently her dad abused her (where the fuck was thé evidence for that?) But if she died in a pool then maybe the search history for suffocation would be her trying to verify it but why would you need duct tape over an already dead child's mouth? Seriously this fucking jury was so awful they should be ashamed and I hope everyday they think about how badly they fucked up
1 likeIt is not a justice system.
0 likesIt is a legal system, and it does not care about you. It cares about keeping the image and crowd control.
I hope we live to see the justice system fixed by having shit like this addressed.
0 likesI have to believe that karma will get her one day , for my peace of mind I have to believe that.
0 likes@Hauptmann itas The evidences weren't as clear-cut as presented in this video.
0 likesSome people take beyond a reasonable doubt seriously
0 likes@K Kk Wrong. She was not proven guilty.
0 likesthe justice system is ridiculous because youre judged by your peers. for WHATEVER reason. the jurors found her not guilty DESPITE all that damn evidence pointing to her being guilty. All you need to do is sway the opinions of the jury
0 likesIt even goes further then that, she was a fire fox user, the cops didn’t know what fire fox was and only looked at the search history on the internet explorer (which her mother used) she literally spent the morning looking at Facebook, most likely watching all her friends her age living life. Next she then looked up full proof suffocation and suffocation multiple times. Cops just did a shitty job
0 likes@Kenzis bc of the media coverage they had to select ppl for the jury from Clearwater Florida that already didn’t have ‘bias’ against her. Most likely not the brightest or best ppl to judge fellow community members. SO so so many factors in this case that led to this evil happening
0 likes@Missy Blue there was a real lady with that name living in Florida. She used the combo of the names of the ppl living in front of where she dumped the body
1 likeYeah, I agree...but then I thought about it for a while. If she got arrested, who gets justice? The grandparents? Because they lost a grandchild and they wouldn't want to lose a child too. The general public? As far as any media or this documentary shows, Casey wasn't a serial killer...so in my opinion, although she deserved to spend her life rotting in jail, this would probably have been the best outcome for everyone
1 like@Sprez No. lack of proofs. Read the case.
0 likesBesides various statistics has shown women get more times for the same crimes as men and women in the justice system do not have the same support system as men.
Men who kill their wives for example in many places get the 'passionate crime' excuse and less years than a woman who kills her husband, even despite proofs of her being abused.
In UK and US, rape kits are often destroyed or not analysed by concerned parties, including police officers - and neither does the law provide a certain time limit for it to happen. Meaning many rape victims, majorly women, do not get justice.
Trafficked victims who kill their trafficker to be able to escape still get treated as if it's a 'normal' crime. And cases where women are kidnapped or die take more time to be resolved, especially when it is colored or indigenous women - which suggest the law and system is still biased towards women.
One such report is here:
https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/105796NCJRS.pdf
The claim that women supposedly get less punished by legal system is false, has been debunked already where it shows, it the actual opposite happening.
yeah it really is shitty and back wards. Shit like this makes me feel like we're living in some twisted twilight zone of a universe.
0 likesI can’t believe how stupid everyone in the jury is. How can you see all this and think she isn’t guilty? I hope they can’t sleep at night knowing that they let a baby killer go free.
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The jury selection process must have started like this "Ummm, D'uhhhhh"
47 likes@megan Najera doesn't matter. The case is about did she kill her daughter or not.
251 likesWe have the benefit of hindsight we now can centralise and go through all the evidence with the knowing that she did do it, and I have to be honest sitting in that room with that defence not knowing if it is fact or not, he gives a damn good performance. Money was on her side with that defence it saved her
37 likes@Guy they did to?
1 like@megan Najera if she was or wasn’t it doesn’t justify anything, lots of people go through worse things but you don’t see them killing their child
37 likes@C B good one
0 likes@Guy exactly. The burden of forming a case beyond reasonable doubt is the job of the prosecution. The defense only needs to create a single shred of doubt, obviously they were successful.
11 likes@megan Najera nah she was taking to her dad like she missed him and loved him when she was in jail, even saying he was “a great dad. So I’m guessing it’s bull.
20 likesThey do think Casey is guilty. But this doesn’t mean they can convict her due to the lack of evidence. It was only inquiry that was provided. It is pretty clear that she murdered her 3 year old innocent daughter. This is probably another example of women getting the benefit of the doubt when charged for a crime 😑
13 likesYou clearly don't know anything about the law. They over reach on their charges
1 likeJury probably got told he was gonna get a quicky if they let her go
1 like@Guy Just the fact that she intentionally lied about her daughter's whereabouts and hid things from EVERYONE (not even talking about going to the police, she could've at least confided in some people) is all the evidence you need to know! They had A LOT more evidence to convict her, but didn't. There's people sitting in jail over circunstancial evidence. Yet she's out there living her life like nothing happened. At least negligence should have been brought up to the table. Even if she didn't lie a finger on that baby, she should've been convicted. At least some years in prison.
9 likes@Shanks They were eager to get back to their barbeques and their fireworks. It was near the 4th of July. It makes me sick.
4 likesWell I can tell you who is sleeping probably even more comfortable than before. Her name now infamous, what she saw as a burden is now out of her life, and there is nothing to show for it. Her pretty face and money saved her again. Karma will come. And it will strike harder than it ever has before. I do wish that sweet baby haunts her dreams though...
8 likesStrictly speaking the basis of innocence is beyond a reasonable doubt. What this means is that if it is a genuine |possibility| that someone else could have reasonably done it then you should let the person go. For example just because someone is a lying sociopath doesn't mean that they are necessarily the killer. Further some of the public knowledge that is most incriminating was kept from the jury for a variety of legal reasons.
4 likesIt's worth noting the big problem in the US isn't people getting off because they are rich or white, it's poor and minorities being convicted despite clear reasonable doubt. Heck more often then not the prosecution to be pressing charges to begin with.
That's the american court system for you.
1 likeNo proven evidence.
0 likesBecause everyone is Not guilty, until the Other Thing is surely proven. And thats a really Important law (even If Things Like this Here might Happen)
2 likesbc she white
4 likesThe thing is... the jury didn't see "this". What they saw was the trial and the evidence provided within that specific scope.
4 likes@Imari Williams
7 likesNot a single shred of doubt, a REASONABLE doubt. The prosecution fucked up when they didn’t look at the Firefox history. If they’d shown that the history said “fool proof suffocation,” she would be in jail.
@CrazyPangolinLady although that evidence would have helped it was circumstantial. It didn’t directly tie Casey to Caylee’s death, it just made her look more guilty. There was a lot of evidence that we know now that was either excluded from trial or not presented at all. The prosecution really dropped the ball.
1 like@Guy Yeah I have to agree. That man is an absolutely brilliant defense lawyer. Morality aside, if he did really believe she was innocent does not matter, what matters is that he convinced a nation and a jury that a child killer was innocent. And he did so in such an eloquently successful way. It says a lot about the politicization and media intervention into our law systems.
1 like@megan Najera it was a lie. A lot of cases where someone is cornered they manifest some bullshit claim of childhood neglect or abuse. To bring more sympathy for them. But most are investigated and nothing is proven. It’s complete BS and honestly should come with a charge for slander as you are trying to ruin someone else’s life with false accusations
1 likeNo physical evidence. Jury did nothing wrong. Yes she acted weird, but there was no evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
0 likes@Scared Donut there was evidence pointing to her doing a lot of things. She got charged with some stuff but got away with the murder, at the same time some of the jury even realized they made the wrong decision afterwards
0 likes@SirStrange "some things" is not evidence beyond reasonable doubt for murder.
0 likesIt's fascinating how detached from reality she was for thinking that her childish lies could work with detectives... Even more fascinating is that those lies actually worked.
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I believe it's not lies that worked it's rather matter of something that does not work
15 likesOOOOOONNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEE PUNCH!!!!!!!!
3 likes@Loc o Her attorney’s lies worked with the jurors, because IMO, they wanted to believe the BS being fed to them. For whatever reason, it was easier for them to accept her father, George, was the big bad wolf, instead of facing the reality that Casey’s a cold blooded murderer, who killed her daughter for the most selfish reasons possible. Whether people want to admit it or not, men & women are treated VERY differently in the court systems.
85 likes@Is it over yet? some attorneys are the real monsters for putting aside their morals and ethics just to benefit financially and/or keep their client success rates high.
35 likes@Is it over yet? the problem isnt the court system in the human evolution Humans are trained that woman needs to be protected and man not (you can work with 5 man and 100 woman to refill the population but not reversed) so the basic human nature is to help woman and rejekt man who need help because man are a burden.
5 likesshe is literally free rn chilling with her boyfriend, the childish lies definetly worked
5 likesJust like Pam Smart
1 likeTechnically... it did work and thats the CRAZY part
2 likes@Is it over yet? this is nonsense. the case was full of reasonable doubt, especially for a first degree murder charge.
4 likesThe fact that the jury got pursuaded is crazy but what i really can't fathom is that these lawyers can plea her free knowing full well that she has killed her child. I could not live with myself knowing i have set free this monster back in society once again.... They actually take pride in it.. Makes me question who is the real monster there...
9 likesI'm confused if there was duct tape on the body of caylee, why did the defense say she drowned in a swimming pool? Uhh, there was literal duct tape showing she was killed in other means.
1 likeYou see the cops on South Park?
0 likes@darius its their job lol. Their job is to defend their client to the best of their ability. Which implies abandoning morality. That's how the system is meant to work.
2 likes@OhMyArceus087 my brothers a lawyer and said he never had respect for criminal defense attorneys or anything of that matter..... they are monsters
1 like@Bullshit Department the job of a lawyer is to accept and parttake in perjury? lol.
0 likes@Is it over yet? As far as the jury is concerned, they very obviously bought into the idea that they needed to have some concrete proof of Casey murdering her daughter in order to indict her, which is just silly. We can't only convict killers who are caught on video killing someone. We can and do look at the body of evidence, including circumstantial evidence, to make conclusions. And the only line I think the defense really crossed was when they perpetuated the unprovable lie about Casey's father molesting her. It was a cheap, shitty, immoral and unnecessary thing to do and they knew it. That, plus even after the Not Guilty verdict was handed down, her lawyers did all of the media rounds saying that she didn't have anything to do with Caylee's death, which is both unnecessary from her lawyers and obviously a lie. Gaetz even wrote a book later pointing the finger at the father to make more money off the the trial. Anyone who believes anything Casey or her lawyer says really needs mental help.
0 likes@darius no. It's what I said. Not defending the system, just saying that that particular lawyer isn't doing anything out of the ordinary.
0 likesto be fair, she told her lies very convincingly. if I hadn't known better, I would've 100% believed her just because of the way she told them and her confident tone. like how do you even do that? how do u lie that well? its terriying.
0 likes@Bullshit Department although I agree with you that it isn't out of the ordinary in the sense that many lawyers do this, to say it's their job and imply that the point of a lawyer is to defend a client even if it means to disregard the constitution is just questionable to me. also to say its their job kind of makes me think you're saying they arent allowed to decline the case, but they have every right to, which is the right thing to do in this situation.
2 likesThey didn't work, they got her arrested and contributed as evidence and she was put in a courtroom.
0 likesHer defence team is what worked.
@darius As a defence attorney if you are representing who you know is a monster you want to give them a very good trial, that way they can't re appeal for mistrials and therefore put the victim's and their families under the stress over and over again.
0 likesIt's a double edged sword.
@Ghofran Alahmadi I'm not talking about her ability to lie, i'm saying that her lies were incredibly stupid. Telling cops about people that don't even exist and saying that you have a job that you actually don't have is just dumb.
0 likesHeard she’s doing okay. She’s living it up at parties and having a grand ass time. Heard she immediately called the police over a little cup of water being thrown at her which says a lot that she didn’t call police for her dead missing daughter that she murdered
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How you know this?
23 likesGoogle
97 likes@Shelby Young I pretty much hate the entire jury now
283 likes@Angelic same. All because she got touched by her dad, it’s okay that she hid her daughters body.
150 likes@Bes like why didn’t he get charged with it lol
13 likes@Angelic That's easy to say as an outsider, but we didn't sit through that trial hearing every piece of evidence and every word of testimony, and ultimately the jury did what they were supposed to do.
93 likesIDK if you've ever served on a jury in a criminal trial, but they tell you very explicitly that the state has to prove their case "BEYOND ANY shadow of doubt!"
That means if you don't think the state made a slam dunk case PROVING that the defendant DEFINITELY committed the crime, your duty is to vote "not guilty," regardless of what you think "might be" or "Probably is" true.
In the US we don't send people to prison over "might be" or "probably."
At least, we're not supposed to...
And sure, she LOOKS guilty as shit... But did the state actually PROVE that's the case?
But I will say A- googling suffocation seems pretty damning... And pretty stupid.
And B-- that damn lawyer was worth every penny! lol
@Shelby Young They made it up too
46 likes@Angelic I know they did. As a victim of sexual abuse it disgusts me that they made it up and now she’s free
141 likesif i see her in the streets it’s OVER. god bless caylee poor soul
56 likes@Ghost Jasmine same I’m gonna go swinging blindly
36 likes@Wardaddy fuck I wish we could. Same with the murderer of Selena Quintanilla.
27 likes@FromNothingICome You need to revisit the burden of proof for a criminal case, because you’re seriously wrong. The prosecution needs to prove guilt beyond any REASONABLE doubt, not beyond “any shadow of a doubt” as you said. They don’t have to make, “…a slam dunk case PROVING the defendant DEFINITELY committed the crime” as you said. That would be insane, tons and tons of guilty people would roam free. Instead, the prosecution has to make a case that any reasonable person has no reason to doubt that the defendant committed the crime. Our justice system leans towards allowing the guilty to go free rather than imprisoning the innocent, as this case sadly shows, but what you’re proposing is beyond nuts. I’m so glad our justice system doesn’t stand on the foundation you think it does.
59 likes@Shelby Young nope. That’s not why. The prosecution failed to explain HOW she killed her daughter. This is largely a failure on the part of the prosecution. The jury has to follow rules, you know. They can’t JUST reach a verdict based on how they feel.
14 likes@Realm of the misunderstood there was so much evidence that pointed to her being the murderer
30 likes@Realm of the misunderstood she at least could have been charged with lying to officers or neglect, since she admitted she had “no idea” where “Zanny” took Kaylee.
14 likes@Shelby Young was that also a lie, or did she actually get touched? That’s the question I would be asking. Following her long list of lies she was caught in, why should that be taken at face value? She clearly holds no respect for anyone or anything, so what’s to prove that the same doesn’t go for her parents? She spent several months lying to them daily. She didn’t love them any more than a dog loves its bone. Once the flavor is gone, it’s a useless husk that’s discarded.
13 likesyupppp
0 likesWell said ..... couldn't agree more with you
1 likeThat defense attorney did it..."So if you have any remaining questions, it hasn't been proven, and you cant assume', and all the jury went 'I guess not'. My question would be "who did it then Casey?", and not let her free till she finds someone who is guilty.
2 likes@FromNothingICome But is it 'proof, or 'doubt' that matters? No one had any doubt, reasonable doubt. No one had the proof, but it drew a circle tightly around her and no-one else. That removes doubt for me.
6 likes@FromNothingICome she made up people she knew, people she hung out with, who does that to the police, who doesn’t care if she has friends or not. Only a habitual liar who can convince herself things did or didn’t happen. Something very wrong with her, no way she didn’t do it.
6 likes@G R I too have served on juries and what GR says is true. REASONABLE DOUBT, not absolute. She is a horrible person.
5 likes@FromNothingICome your screen name tells me your keyboard must be very very sticky.
2 likesI read that too and couldn't agree more.
4 likes911 Dispatch: What's your emergency?
Casey: They are throwing water at me!
Dispatch: When did this happen?
Casey: Like, RIGHT NOW!! (foot stomp)
Dispatch: And what is your name?
Casey: Casey Anthony
Dispatch:...... Casey Anthony. Caylee's mom?
Casey: Yeah, whatever. Are you gonna arrest these people for what they are doing to me?
Dispatch: Yep. Call us back in a month.
clickdial tone@Realm of the misunderstood Wow. You're bringing up stuff that happened much later in the case. The moment I heard "she has been missing a month and you HAVE NOT called the cops?", I was like, well this is an open shut case. I was so wrong. And you're right about how the case was handled. Poor shame. No justice for a little girl that is a ghost to everyone but her own mother.
2 likes@Totallynotkyubey How did this case go so wrong? And everyone watched it happen. Living with part of her defense team?! Geez! Isn't that conflict of interest or SOMETHING?
3 likes@Realm of the misunderstood They actually can. It's called jury nullification, look it up. A guilty verdict can be appealed, would be better with a new trial than letting the obviously guilty go free.
1 likejail. She didn't throw the water on herself.
0 likes@FromNothingICome I've watched women just say rape and men have gone to prison over it.
0 likes@Angelic some article i read said one of the jury says his verdict still haunts him 10 years later and wished he pushed harder for one of the lesser charges.
0 likes@FromNothingICome that lawyer is going to hell.
5 likesHow the fuck is she not in jail
3 likes@FromNothingICome only thing i disagree with this is the "in America" part. Everything else, totally agree.
0 likesThe best part about it is that Casey doesn't even bother to think about the consequences of her INACTION, as well as her actions. If she is willing to call the cops that quickly over something so silly, then there is obviously another reason she didn't call the cops when Caylee went missing. She really is a piece of work.
2 likes@Guitar Player Factory Channel they shouldn’t have let her out until they can find the culprit. I figure don’t let her just on the account of it took her 30 days to call the police. Negligence. I’m dumbfounded and can’t believe they got muffled up by a bunch of liars
0 likes@Ghost Jasmine Word up
0 likesyeah, and i recently learned once you’ve been tried for a crime and have been convicted not guilty for that crime you can’t be tried for that same crime ever again but makes so mad to know she’s a free murderer. caylee would be in high school now, she would be around my age, maybe a junior, getting for college and graduation and life and her mother took it all away
1 like@Shelby Young America's not perfect, but with everything else that's available, USA is as good as it gets.
0 likesI don't doubt one thing you said 🍺✊😎
0 likesImm so mad :)
0 likesShe probably didn’t even go to her own child’s funeral
0 likes@D HV her parents
0 likesBro you must have smoked some good Cali weed. There is no way in gods green earth this isn’t a case of “ complexion for the protection”. Say as you well, people are convicted in trails everyday in America. With the smallest amount of evidence. This woman had everything minus the body 🤣🤣.
1 likeI can tell when people low key (r) 🤷🏾♂️
Yes and the spat she had was over a guy both women were seeing! Kicker being he’s a Police Officer!! 🤬
0 likes@Shelby Young her dad never ever touched her.
5 likes@Shelby Young Did you even watch the last few minutes of the video. The prosecution failed to prove she was guilty. It has nothing to do with her dad.
2 likes@Not Me Not Me I know it’s just that they lied about her dad touching her
4 likesShe was a compulsive liar. Her father did not abuse her. Shame on her and her lawyer.
8 likes@FromNothingICome How the hell do you know that the jury did what they were supposed to do? Did you forget how that sentence started?
0 likes@Realm of the misunderstood Why do they need to explain how she killed her?
0 likes@FromNothingICome Newsflash: semantics kinda sorta matters in the field of law.
0 likesAny forms of contact we can spam her with?
2 likes@Mark Webb You should do investigative work on that then. Get them justice. What do they say? See something? Say something.
0 likesApparently she's even dating a police seargant
2 likes@Shelby Young Narcissistic/Psychopathic women will lie about abuse in order to play the victim and get out of accountability. This is very common amongst the malignant ones
2 likes@Realm of the misunderstood Could they have charged her with hindering evidence..her lawyer said how the kid died..so she would have too.
0 likes@FromNothingICome she should of at least got child neglect lol could you imagine if this was a man oh god
0 likes@Old Ironsides so you think that she didn't report her daughter and made up all the lies because she was innocent? Get out of town. She absolutely deserves everything she gets from the public.
1 likeAmerica.
0 likes@Shelby Young
0 likesBecause apparently they dropped it immediately after it was first brought up on the grounds of no evidence whatsoever. 🙄
@FromNothingICome
0 likesPeople have honestly been in for far less. Did you see the one about the two false accusations. One of the dudes got two years and it was probably because the system had already chewed him up and spit him out before.
@Shelby Young mens rea is enough to prove a person guilty
0 likes@Shelby Young because.... Either he didn't do it!!!! Or... He paid with the girl off his flesh and blood he loved... His grand baby...
1 like@Realm of the misunderstood they dont need to explain how she killed her daughter. Her daughter is dead, she was the last person to see her, she lied about absolutely everything, she didnt report her missing for 31 days. In australia she would have been founs guilty.
0 likesDoes she travel with an entourage of security? One wld think she wld be terrified of being recognized in a crowd of random people.
0 likes@Shelby Young good luck. Make sure you have skills that other countries want/need.
0 likesYoure kidding me?
0 likesThis was arguably the worst miscarriage of justice I've ever witnessed. My faith in the justice system was already dangling by a thread. This severed that thread.
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this and the zimmerman case
51 likes@FYMM CA Hmm. Surly this should be a case study on improving it? Or, is this justice?
5 likesWell, consider its swampland Florida too. That's a factor as well.
19 likes@FYMM CA I am watching again because I want to see if all those details were available to the jury.
1 likeThis is how Dexter felt
7 likes@justin Zimmerman is innocent
15 likes@Hateful Gaming go away troll
18 likes@justin Someones mad
9 likesI love your wording
0 likes100%
0 likesSo dramatic. Oy.
0 likes@justin
11 likesZimmerman case got it right. 💯
@Nu-Metalfan 26 Yes. But then again he wanted to kill people that killed. That was the original idea behind Dexter. If you ask me, if Dexter was a real serial killer, I have no sympati for the worst killers he killed.
0 likes@Mr Ex Dexter wasn’t a vigilante he just wanted to kill, the show tells you Dexter has this issue of needing to kill. But it’s Harry that persuaded him to kill other killers. Dexter doesn’t care about justice or anything like that, he’s just fascinated by the act of killing someone.
1 likeabsolutely. How did they overlook her blatantly lying about so many things?? Disgusting.
2 likes@Leonardo Landi to be fair, this is what the founders one of the judicial system to be. Make sure a thousand guilty men can walk to prevent an innocent man being incarcerated
1 likeThe thing wrong about this case is how incapable the prosecutors were in proving their claims. They didn't show sufficient prove therefore she couldn't have heen charged. I definitely think she did it, but this is the prosecutor's fault
1 likeWhat a deep, deep statement…. There’s layers behind your thought process and it’s very, very intriguing…….
3 likesLol. I’m just kidding.
You realize its not the system that's the issue, its the public citizens, the jurors. People like your friends, neighbors, coworkers. People have turned into idiot's who have zero common sense yet think they're brilliant....
2 likes@Zachary Moore Wrong. It was the prosecutor bringing the wrong charges. Each charge they brought (even the manslaughter ones) required proof of premeditated malicious intent. This could not be proved and left the jury no option to find negligent or culpable manslaughter (which is very feasibly what happened). Then the failed to bring other minor charges (e.g. disposal of body) which may have got some jail time. It's not the system, it's the poor use of the system in this case and it's ridiculous to blame the jury. They followed the law.
4 likes@GUITAR STYLINGS SAMUEL LETIZIA zip it old man
0 likesOnly in Florida!
0 likes@Jamal Labarge zimmerman was on community watch duty, also you can follow people in public especially if you are on community watch, even with all that said it was trayvon who attacked zimmerman FIRST
2 likesRight up the with oj, robert blake, and the spider sabich murder
0 likesthat must've been some durable thread to last this far...
0 likes@Leonardo Landi Bruh
0 likesO.j
0 likesI suppose in the end the court of public opinion has deemed her guilty, and she can no longer live a normal life as Casey Anthony, so in a way she’s receiving the punishment
0 likesUltimately her punishment is that no one will ever believe a word she says ever again
This poor baby. I’ll never forget this case. It shook me to my core because how could anyone do what she did to her own child? And not have a single ounce of remorse. It’s sickening
0 likesDid you not listen to a single thing the video explained to you? You overlook the fact of what was said and discovered? How she masked everything up because she was sexually abused by her dad? It became part of her character. Psychologists during the trial gave testimony as to how this works. Why she was unable to display emotion. Jeez, you really drink that koolaid huh
0 likesI can’t understand why someone would take the cases as attorneys to defend someone who is clearly guilty of the crime… I couldn’t be a lawyer for that reason
0 likesWhat bothers me so much about this is how Casey could’ve very easily just asked her parents to watch Caylee and abandoned her with them. She’d definitely be shamed about it but her parents totally would’ve raised that baby no questions asked and she’d still be alive. The fact that she got away with it proves the “justice system” is a farce
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Harold Jenkins but we can do something about it. They want us to think that way there is literally a few hundred people who run this world and they have power through this ignorance of we can’t do anything. compared to the billions that aren’t part of the plan we could easily change the world through revolution but it takes time a spark in the system. There is a thorough suppression in all major countries and we’re all realizing it. Our oceans are poisonous now through plastic particles existing in the microcosms of the water. This world is going to go through a major shift and they know it that’s why they’re scrambling to keep us in. Maybe not in our generation but maybe the next.
65 likesShe hated her mom and would not give her mom the baby.
18 likes@Harold Jenkins Nothing is perfect but it wouldn't take a perfect system to convict Casey, only a better one.
63 likesThat’s what makes her sociopathic...that she chose murder over leaving her with her parents.
47 likesWouldn't that just create this problem all over again? The same people who raised Casey raising Kaylee? Yeah she'd still be alive of but her kids survive?
7 likesA-team313 productions
7 likesNo justice system is infallible. Being flawed doesn't mean it's totally ineffectual.
@Kahlil Benjamin I was actually wondering she didnt get an abortion in the first place, but I am guessing from her patterns of behaviour that she probably waited way too long and just ignored the problem hoping it would go away until it was too late
24 likesThere's also something called a babysitter. Paying a teenager a few bucks to watch her child for the night isn't gonna break the bank.
9 likes@Harold Jenkins thats not a good excuse for the ample amounts of flaws a system that is extremely important to society... cant just be like "it is what it is" when people are literally getting away with murder...
2 likes@Michelle Cox - I was going to say something similar.
4 likesEven if she is guilty, the abuse is likely what fried her brain in the first place. Trauma at an early age can create sociopaths.
Its a court of law. Not a court of justice. Justice went out the window when murderers and rapists started walking out of court scott free while theres people who get wrongly convicted and spend 20+ years in jail and all the courts give is a "sorry bout that"
3 likes@ZK___420___ZK I agree! But was her dad ever found guilty? Or was this one more of her lies?
3 likes@Leah From what I read, she wanted to get one but her mother Cindy was against it. There was also an infertile family friend who offered to adopt Caylee but once again, Cindy said no. Now, Casey could have tried harder to stop the pregnancy or to terminate her parental rights but given the messed up family's dynamic, I'm not surprised she decided to carry Caylee to term and keep her, probably hoping her parents would take care of her fulltime and she'll be free while still pretending she's a dutiful mother.
7 likesEither way, Cindy Anthony is also responsible for Caylee's tragic end and those who are trying to excuse her are bsing themselves
I agree with op, except that last sentence.
5 likesThe fact is that the American Justice System errs on the side of the individual INTENTIONALLY. This is an INTENTIONAL side effect of preventing tyranny. You complain that Casey Anthony and other criminals walk-free whilst some people are falsely imprisoned but don't realize you must err on the side of one or the other because of the FACT that you cannot be perfect. That is, first the framers accepted the reality that no system can be perfect and second, they decided that a system of by and for the people would err on the side of NOT falsely imprisoning innocent people at the expense of guilty people not being able to be convicted. A perfect example of this is our RIGHT to be free of illegal search and seizure- if the cops find the bloody knife in your house but didn't have the warrant that evidence is FINITO and cannot be used against you. Another example is the fact that you are presumed innocent- it's ALL SET UP THIS WAY to protect us versus the government.
You were half-way to this conclusion in your own thought process when you realized the system has flaws and that the errors occur in both ways. You got lost when you stopped thinking there and just said it proves the system is a farce because it is not a farce it is one of the most efficient and fair systems that's existed- it'll never be perfect because perfect is not real you just have to get over that. Just imagine if the system wasn't set up with the mind set of "a hundred guilty walking free rather than a single innocent man imprisoned" and how many more of the falsely accused would be in prison right now?
Her parents were sick of watching the kid. She left Caylee with them all the time, and they were demanding that she do her job as a parent. Plus, the new bf didn't want kids, so there was no way Caylee had a chance.
6 likes@Michelle Cox - He was never charged but, as far as I can tell, he's never actually refuted it.
2 likesThat is one seriously messed up family so I doubt we'll ever really know either way.
Kahlil Benjamin ummm that’s why we needed Bernie.
0 likes@ZK___420___ZK Hey thanks! You're right. Messed up family for sure.
1 likeThen Caylee would turn out just like Caysey!
0 likesIf the roles were switched this would’ve been different
0 likesIm still a bit curious to the paternity of Caylee. I remember the rumors at the time about her brother possibly being the father when they were talking about the disfunction of the family. Was it ever established who the father was? It was such a terribly sad case
0 likesIf she'd done that they would have given her daughter all the attention and she would not have been supported by them financially anymore. Part of the way she snowed her parents was by using her daughter to exploit them. What would have happened to Casey if her parents knew she didn't love her daughter... or anyone else? They'd probably think they could help her but she knew they'd want her to try and she would lose all material benefits of their relationship until she complied. Worse for her point of view, she would lose her image and ability to manipulate along with it.
2 likesCompliance and responsibility was the issue with mothering Caylee that Casey was trying to escape from -- an inconvenience. Selfishness. Nothing more. I think that is why she got off -- as contradictory as it sounds to most people; the jury members were either ignorant of her nature or reticent to see her as she was -- they had empathy and compassion and remorse for the death of Caylee and it was impossible for them to comprehend that Casey couldn't, that she didn't need any motive more than selfishness. She only feels for herself. The defense gave them reasons for their feelings, excused their consciences and told them that, "no, evil doesn't exists as a pretty young mother who looks like your daughters"
Never underestimate a good attorney
2 likesAndrew Stevens there are reports she paid her attorney in sexual favors. So maybe she couldn’t pay and this is how she paid.
0 likesWhat bothers me is the damn attorneys, only thinking about money. They don’t care a single bit of what happened to that child...
1 likeWyndi this is one of the best breakdowns I’ve read. Rings true to me.
1 like@Mary S Kaylee looked exactly liked Cindy, I think it was part of what made Casey so crazy
1 likeI mean you have no idea if her parents would do that.i had horrible up bringing an I GUARANTEE my parents would act the same way an would say they would take the kids BUT NO WAY WOULD. Tell me how you know that?
0 likesMichelle Cox she went on about how her dad was the best dad ever and how he was the greatest grandparent ever. I usually believe victims but this girl will lie about anything under the sun to save herself.
0 likes@Leah That's a strong possibility, however I also lean toward Cindy 'forbidding' it, and swearing she'd 'take care' of Caylee, saying anything she had to, to keep Casey from having an abortion. Sometimes I feel like Cindy used Caylee as a punishment against Casey. There were definite signs, like Cindy insisting on being the first person to hold Caylee after she was born, and making sure to mention it from time to time. I know if my mother forced me to have a kid, then stole that moment from me, and bragged about it, I'd be super pissed.
3 likesThat's what I didn't understand, why kill her when you could've left her with them, maybe because she still wanted the attention from her parents but now they were giving it to caylee, she might have killed her daughter out of jealousy
1 like@Chantyrose her parents were cracking down on her. Casey was missing events and hangouts and they were more important than anything to her. They wanted her to settle down and be a parent, and she never wanted to be. They were willing to watch Caylee, but not to the extent Casey wanted them to, and that was becoming a problem. Look how she went out every single night after Caylee was out of the picture. That was the only acceptable life to her, anything less was not negotiable.
1 like@Leah I remember hearing in articles years ago she actually wanted an abortion but her parents said they would abandon there daughter if she did that. So she had the baby and then hated how much her parents loved there grandchild. This is why she took Caylee away for that month before killing her
2 likesshe would have to provide them money for the care. gotta avoid that financial burden i guess.
0 likes@OwO Foxy it wouldve been up to her parents if they wanted to pursue child support payments through the court, which I doubt is something they would’ve done. In the US, child support doesn’t just automatically start up because your kid lives with someone else.
0 likes@Zeke Walker hmm... true i guess... im not in the US so i guess its not in my position to say much
0 likes@Laura Dobbins No paternity was ever established.
0 likes@its_your_girl zZ well, i don't think sexual abuse results in cold-blooded pathological lying but sure... and that was probably made up given her tendency to lie and her shady lawyer as speculation to sow doubt in the jury... (though i dont know how that ties back in to the case)
1 like@OwO Foxy yeah, true. I don’t think her father would ever touch her inappropriately. I’m sure she was just lying about it as usual.
0 likes@its_your_girl zZ yeah, everything from them just sounds completely absurd.
0 likes@ThePsychoRenegade you guys keep saying that because you want her convicted. But if you were ever charged with some serious crime, you'd be glad for the system we have.
0 likes@K Kat not a dumb argument at all. We are a product of our environment and genetics.
0 likesI'm actually not sure that any of us really have choices in the higher sense.
Going back to her case. Her family was definitely dysfunctional but in a subtle sort of way. I mean, they lived in an nice house, clean, fed, but you can definitely raise a fucked in the head person there.
The fact that she said she spoke to Caylee for a minute in the 911 call when Caylee had been dead for weeks should have been enough to convict her.
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Yah I caught that to! And in describing Jeff’s house being big n spacious for both kids-babysitter in the beginning and two three phases later it’s a nice apartment!! 😂 I mean come on I saw so much of that in this interview that it was overwhelming
137 likes@Chapster Onetime Right! Exactly 😂😂
11 likesTHANK YOU! I am shocked how this woman is free today, and allowed to have more kids.
108 likes@Ana Alves exactly, I can’t believe they didn’t convict her. Even if she drowned how could she be out partying and get tattoos about “life”? What kind of mother would do that?
79 likes@PEPPA PIG Janelle Anything would be better than no charges - obstruction of justice, child neglect, improper disposal of human remains... I mean they had everything to charge her with SOMETHING. I cannot believe she was just considered not guilty for all of it.
95 likes@Ana Alves Period!!! And then it came out that she was boinking the lawyers.
43 likes@PEPPA PIG Janelle I didn't know about that 👀
11 likes@Svölk She was convicted of 4 counts of providing false information during a police investigation and sentenced to 4 years (later reduced to 2 years) in jail.
21 likes@Jay Beam I think it came down to then saying they didn’t have the evidence to convict her, which legally, I can understand and the jury was in a tough spot. I think the prosecution should have done a better job with forensics making it impossible for the defense to answer or make up another story about! But yes you’re right, I think she just got into a bar fight recently over a guy.
13 likesIve actually never seen her till this video. 12/19/2021. No idea what the story is till this. I don’t watch msm.
6 likesDing ding ding!!
1 like@Jay Beam so she's just out and about partying around Florida right now?
16 likesCasey's father knows more than he is letting on.
10 likes@Ben Blake thats an interesting theory! You think so? I think they’re the type of family that sweeps things under the rug like when the mom said she was the one searching for chloroform when it was proven she was at work at the time.
4 likes@Ana Alves ya that's how she paid her lawyer fees
6 likes@Aj I feel like that detective had her moving in the right direction until the second one came in and paused their conversation. I'm sure not intentional on his part to disrupt the momentum like that. But the way she was starting to use animated body movements (usually a sign of exaggerating/lying) and seemingly finally backed into a corner, I wonder what she might have said had that kept going?
3 likes@Brenda Reyes EXACTLY, you make excellent points!!! If he was such an abuser why would you let your daughter around him? And even if he did, (no evidence) although that would be a horrible horrible thing what does it have to do with her killing her daughter? Unless she’s trying to suggest that he killed Caylee which is laughable at best and still wouldn’t make sense… The poor guy thought about taking his life over all of this. Her parents not only lost their granddaughter but had the whole nation hating them for something their daughter got away with. This is truly something that should be studied in law school.
7 likes@Chapster Onetime she was referring to zenaidas apartment
2 likesYh that and the search results
1 likeToo white to go to jail.
4 likes@PEPPA PIG Janelle she's still living with the lawyer too
5 likes@Aj Tell that to the women that punch and spit in her face in bars. And good on them.
1 like@Aj I'll alert prisoners worldwide of your decision. I'm sure theyll respect you enough to follow your orders.
1 like@Aj im making fun of you.
1 like@Aj TLDR
1 like@T W you mean you don't watch fox news?
0 likes@Aj I'm afraid you're not blood thirsty enough for this crowd.
0 likesIn a civil case it will ruin her case yes, in a criminal case No! In criminal cases it MUST be beyond reasonable doubt, not based on conclusions or speculations.
1 likeThis case reminds me of that Netflix series in 2019 "How to get away with a Murder" But this case is absolutely Jaw-dropping!!!
@T W ok?
0 likes@Aj
2 likesShe lied about her daughter being alive for weeks. She told lies throughout about her daughter being kidnapped until the end when it changed into her daughter drowned in a pool.
Her daughter was found in a bag in a swamp with duct tape around her mouth and nose. Who would take their deceased daughter and dispose of her body like that?
It’s supposed to be beyond a REASONABLE doubt. There is nothing reasonable about her defence story.
@WorBlux Some said, she boasted about sedating her kid.
0 likesWait a minute, her parents threw her a party as if she graduated when she didnt? Her parents have been feeding this behavior her whole life.
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Psychopaths are born. Sociopaths are made. Enabling parents created this situation. If Casey goes into therapy, her parents would have to go with her due to enabling being a mental condition that's just as bad.
220 likesThey all sociopaths...
40 likesTotally.
6 likesExactly.
3 likesTruth they sure didn't help her become a well rounded person
10 likesYeap , it screams right in anyone's face ! ...Dont forget that dad was police officer , so no investigation was ever done on parents characters. We can only speculate what was happening in that house to produce such a character of a daughter.
18 likesWow ! These people should have been investigated!
7 likesAgreed. Weak parents
6 likes@MsLoverofTruth my parents are extremely "enabling" yet i definitely have more empathy than the average person.
15 likespeople are born psychopaths, parents cant create a lack of empathy.
@LittleRainGames There are always those people who entirely blame the parents. Doting on your child does not guarantee them becoming a murder. With the amount of blame they are assigning the parents, they might as well be saying the grandparents murdered their granddaughter. Its ridicules. This video is an attempt to understand how specifically Casey developed like this. Raising another child exactly like Casey would not result in a murder.
9 likesBut I would disagree with you on one point. A lack of empathy can be related to child abuse. This obviously isn’t the case here, but you can with some success reliably create emotionally disturbed children and adults through childhood abuse. That emotional disturbance can create dissonance between you and your fellow man. Empathy is an understanding. If you no longer perceive the same world as others because of altered perception how can you emphasize with them? You become an alien.
Born bad, raised worse.
3 likesLol, all these people blaming the parents, use your brain. Stop giving excuses, Casey made her choices by herself, period, nothing would've changed regardless of who her parents were.
7 likes@Staxlay Smith Not true, but you do you, boo
0 likes@Staxlay Smith not all psychopaths are murderous or mean to people. All psychopathy entails is that the person suffering from it cannot empathize or relate to others on an emotional level.
3 likesShe’s in jail in shu for two weeks and when she sees her parents greets them in the same bubbly manner that a 12 yr old would give when coming home from a girls wknd sleepover
1 likeRight!?! So frustrating! I would be pissed if that was my kid!
1 likeWhen you have no backbone as parents you can’t complain when your children grow up the way they want to be.
1 likeWait a minute, her parents threw her a party as if she graduated when she didnt? Her parents have been feeding this behavior her whole life.
4 likesThey're called feeders.
0 likesThey created a sociopath.
1 like@Jarred Brown dude her father raped her as she was a child, did you not listen to the last part??
2 likesIn my opinion, we shouldn't blame the parents. If she's lied all her adult life, it's become a role she played. Maybe her parents loved her and were not ready to see their daughter as a liar.
0 likesExactly..they raised a narcissist for sure
1 likeYes. You learn what you live.
0 likesDoesn't mean she isn't capable of murder on her own
0 likes@LittleRainGames I agree with you in a way, some of the most empathic ppl come from deplorable backgrounds &vice versa. I come from (luckily)a very loving supportive family as did a cousin of mine &he is a text book sociopath .
0 likesmaybe sometimes sociopathy or psychopathy is hereditary.
0 likes@LittleRainGames yes psychopathy is maybe genetic.
0 likesLol you guys make me laugh.
0 likes@MsLoverofTruth aca
0 likes#Justice4Caylee
0 likesno i think they lied to other family members about the party not actually had one
0 likes@LittleRainGames exactly, enabling behaviour and being a extremely doting parent can lead to a person being selfish or generally having a crappy character but definitely does not lead to murder , she was to either born psychopathic or had gone through some extreme trauma that led to it which might not have been mentioned/investigated.
0 likes@Patricia Johnson music
0 likesMusic from the 60
0 likesBut it was more her mother, not her father.
0 likesExactly pizzamon79, exactly!
0 likesexactly
1 like@MiR Tra I agree, something was clearly happening growing up and her parents are almost in admition of her behaviour because they secretly know and expect it, i suspect something happened when she was younger to the daughter that the parents know about or were invovled in and shes using that guilt the parents feel to continually justify her behaviour probably evening making them feel its all their fault. She probably killed the child because people were giving her daughter more attention and praise than herself and did not like the spotlight taken away when she was born
0 likesThis jury is a joke. This lawyer is great for all the wrong reasons. No shame or guilt. Disgusting and so hard to watch.
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Truth man, It’s genuinely infuriating
24 likesthat is what they are paid to do, what did you expect?...in fact "justice" is a premium luxury in most cases.
77 likesHe was just a damn good criminal defense attorney lol I put him up there with Johnnie Cochran
46 likesThe Lawyer is really good at his job
29 likesWhat’s the point of this stupid jury system? Just let an educated judge decide. This wouldn’t be a thing
15 likesI understand this frustration but, they really didn't prove beyond reasonable doubt that she was involved in the murder. It is clear she did, I don't doubt it for a second but I was in the same situation with my jury service where as much as our emotions wanted to say guilty, the counts were not proven at all. 0 true evidence. That's the shitty thing. Though, again, we don't know what the defense presented (they can be very very convincing).
24 likes@Jonas The main times jury system is used is when they judge themselves can't weigh the evidence because of the lack of evidence. Jury steps in to listen to every bit of evidence from both sides to help the judge basically and with 0 bias. It's tough but when there is, in this case, a body but no evidence tying her to it regardless of how 'sketchy' she seems, they really couldn't say she did it. I don't believe it's the jury's fault in this case, it's just the state really had nothing to work with even though they had found the body which is really really saddening. I personally believe she was involved as well, but sadly the evidence just wasn't there regardless of her constant lies (god knows how the defense weezed her out of that).
6 likes@Sarah S But still they had prove she was lying to the cops for weeks, even going to random places with them like how is there no punishment for that?
7 likes@NOXIA Agreed but I think we would need to see how the defense managed to make a "reasonable" excuse for that. Those guys are so freaking convincing it's insane - like in the case I was doing, the whole time I was like "no way this guy is innocent" with the evidence state provided and then BAM! The defense would come up and show a whole new perspective on things and you're just left questioning everything the state presented. I would love to see this whole trial if it's online just to see the whole thing
5 likesI served on a jury once. I couldn't believe how ignorant, dumb, stupid the jury pool was.
9 likes@Jonas the jury pool usually consists of people too stupid to get out of it. they have zero knowledge of the court system and laws.
8 likes@TheTruth that's the point of jury, lol. They should know nothing beside the presented evidence.
6 likesScary right … everyone has right if u got cash to back up ur game right ? SMH
0 likes@poyo1_ le how it goes if I got kitty to pony up for descents lawyers hey … so scary …
0 likes@ChardonnayNights just cheaper that the difference …
0 likes@Darko TheEverything still scary on what justice really about - cash is king …
1 like@NOXIA even still - I would be full mental if my kid was gone for a day let alone weeks !! At that age for sure ! Taser me cos wtf this about my kid !! Right ??
1 like@TheTruth yeah jury of “peers “ I wouldn’t back a jury’s thought if they seen me catch a fish let alone trying to help find my kid …
1 like@Jonas bc at least in theory our system of justice and government tries to leave decision making up to multiple people. in practice, juries are insanely biased and cherry-picked by both sides.
1 like@Sarah S I feel like that’s just objectively untrue. The only possible way she didnt kill her child based on thr testimony and court case is if the Flying Spaghetti Monster came down and drowned her kid and she meant the decision she made in her diary was accepting him as her savior
2 likesThat lawyer had me believing she was innocent Lmaooooo
0 likesThis jury *system is a joke
0 likesYou cant blame the lawyer. The lawyer even if he believes and hates his client is obligated by the law to defend her
2 likes@Jonas if we had this then the cop that "killed" Floyd would've walked. He was a drugged up criminal no doubt about that. But I'm not siding with the cops here either, fk em'. They're just tools of the elitist owned system.
0 likesPeople tend to forget the difference between what you think or are pretty sure happened, and what can be proven in the court of law. And the case simply wasnt strong enough. Do i think she murdered her child? Ofc. Im pretty sure. Was the case strong enough to prove it? Not necessarily.
1 like@Nayden Benchev Its a false presumption that one need direct evidence of someone doing the murder. Atleast in my country. If there is a lot of smaller evidence that gets you to a beond reasonable doubt conclusion, thats enough to convict someone. Im not sure about this case though, but there where a few hard hitting circumstantial evidence.
0 likesBut as we know, they wherent enough to convict in this case. Was it a wrong conclusion? I dont know. Its all about that reasonable doubt.
@Kingof Grim I definitely agree that there is no other person in the entire world that would have done this to her, there is just no possibilities let alone reason. But unfortunately when you're in that situation of having this person's future in your hands and there are gaps in the evidence provided, regardless of what your heart tells you, you need to stick to the facts and the facts are that, unfortunately, there was zilch solid evidence tying her to the crime. Maybe one day new evidence can be found, I pray it does
0 likes@Juicesoap Contraptions I wanted to call u wrong but I would’ve been assuming the judge would rule fairly and against a cop and the way the system is, Ur right Floyd’s murderer probably would’ve walked with just a judge
0 likes@Nayden Benchev I mean they had direct evidence the child died as a result of duct tape over the mouth. Which kinda means in any case she is at the least going away for negligent manslaughter if she somehow managed to argue Caylee put it on herself
0 likes@Hypogonadism the case wasn’t strong enough….. that’s how murderers keep killing, rapist keep raping, people with very weak cases get years of incarceration, the prosecutor didn’t do a good job, the jury fail.
0 likes@Martin Luna Its allso how we keep innocent people from imprisonment.
0 likesIm not saying i view the case to weak for a sentence. Since i havent viewed the case. Im saying it clearly was to weak for the jury this time.
In Norway she most likely would have been convicted. Just based upon the evidence that was shown in this video. We view it differently i think. When there is a lot of circumstantial evidence, that body of evidence we rate much higher than in America apparently.
Reasonable doubt, can only go so far. And when you have a mother, who searches how to smother a child, then said child dies of suffocation, and she couldnt care less, has a clear and obvious motive, and didnt contact the police, that body of evidence becomes very strong.
Doesnt matter if there is evidence of the actual murder. The defence need to show reasonable doubt. And i dont think they did in this case. Regardless of what the prosecution did.
Shut up. He's doing his job
0 likes@ChardonnayNights the difference is cochran freed an innocent man, this guy not so much
0 likes@Kingof Grim What do you mean direct evidence? That duct tape was over her mouth when they found her isn't actually direct evidence that it was there before she was dead or caused her death. That is the issue, that there isn't actually direct evidence that the duct tape is what killed her.
0 likes@Jonas that's not how justice works, you cant let only one person decide and have them decide on it all on their own. They could be influenced by other people. In no way am I agreeing with their choices because I believe 100% she's guilty. I feel like they should fix the jury though, they should have people that are detectives or people studying in the law field be the jury.
0 likesSo True.
0 likesEven if Caylee did drown in a pool. Covering up the accident, hiding the body, and lying in court are still serious crimes. Why is she out of prison?
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Because the justice system is massively flawed.
74 likes@Christopher Yacinthe I think you're missing the point. She received zero consequence for murdering her child or "tampering with a corpse" as she at least admitted to eventually.
95 likesExactly. If she drowned, why would casey bother to cover the mouth and nose with duct tape?
41 likes@here nomore imagine out partying at a "hot body contest" and renting movies with your boyfriend when your daughter had just supposedly drowned? I never thought they would let this maniac off. I am still baffled by it. I followed this case from the moment Caylee went missing. There was so much information, so much evidence, so much of her bad behavior on tape. She cared nothing about that baby. She didnt even want to talk about her. Unimaginable.
48 likesI think it's because she got "Time served".. Meaning she had been in jail for a long period of time and that time counted towards her sentence. I could be wrong though, someone please correct me if I'm wrong
7 likes@John Duncan Exactly, a bunch of incompetent people from the public sit on the jury
3 likesShe'd be out of jail by now had see served time for those crimes anyway...
0 likesShe didn't, there was tape on her skull/jaw.
0 likes@Moon Light well, is your friend foreign looking and not pretty? Then instantly his/her life is without value in this society. Your friend should have known.
8 likesOne word
6 likesCaucasian
Because the law isnt real unless it enforced by another human.
2 likes@Moon Light Not just cause white, cause she's pretty, cause shes a woman, cause she's young, cause she's good at acting
9 likes@John Duncan It's because they pull idiots off the streets into courtrooms to serve as part of jury
5 likesWho would put duct tape on their kid if they accidentally drown? If it was an accident, why did she made it look like she was killed? Because they found duct tape on her, and who knows what else they found on her.
2 likesChristopher Yacinthe well thats good and all but she should be serving life
0 likes@Moon Light Sorry about your cousin.
1 likeShe did have some charges but she received credit for time served while she was in jail awaiting trial
0 likesD P do you know how the jury is picked?
0 likes@Hsn Firas thank you, he was a good person he just surrounded himself with trash and made a bad choice, it was his first time getting arrested I thought they were going to give around 5 years, but thats how Texas is.
0 likes@eddie rodriguez I guess that was the case for oj too then.
0 likesNicole Bee OJ had the uno card.
0 likesm j 😂 it takes one to know one.
1 likeGet outside sometime weirdo
@Hsn Firas Why? He got what he deserved even if Casey didn't.
0 likesShe's white and pretty
0 likes@Jackson Jett i think she did that to make up the better image of herself, like which mother would go out to party knowing her daugher is dead, meaning she knows her daughter is safe
0 likesThe graduation party, and the parents telling people she graduated with honors told me EVERYTHING I needed to know.
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They were her enablers all her life 😳
271 likesMy dad was telling people at my graduation party that he was amazed that I passed all my classes to get out of high school.
141 likes@crowtservo I remember a fella threw a rock at the back of my head, splitting it open in school. His father rang my Mam to apologise and my Mam, said "ah he was probably asking for it"
115 likes@osnola ibax ew. I'm sorry
55 likes@crowtservo my parents did the same thing when I graduated years ago😂
6 likes@Chaldean Guy LOL 🤦🏻♂️
8 likes@Cesar Agria, what's so funny?
9 likes@sam KH ahhh...ok
1 like@osnola ibax this is awful
2 likes@crowtservo that sounds like the opposite problem :/ sorry to hear that
1 likeIf this had taken place in any other state she would have been found guilty
5 likesWow you people have graduation party. That's so nice
6 likes@ThisisRubbishlo well i would guess this is very normal for a family of any means that has an only daughter
3 likesyou should look at all the casey videos on YARtv on youtube they show how the case was faked!
0 likespeople love to shift blame on others. instead of focusing on the actual problem
5 likes@Chaldean Guy wdym the real criminals are her parents, there's a lot of people undergo the same way as she did but didn't murder their 2 yo daughter, what are you on about?? Her parents might've done something to drive her like that, but that doesn't mean she's clear from her crime bruh.
6 likesFacts.
2 likesGary Henzler she publicly accused him of raping her as a child in the trial tho.. so that backfired.
0 likesThis is ridiculous. Either all of them knew how Caylee died and yet again had to cover their shits. I feel sorry for the little girl. I guess on the bright side she got away from that pathological family and passed as an innocent beautiful girl. Imagine her growing up in that household. I don’t understand how she was acquitted. Everything she said from beginning to end was already proof enough for me. I wish I was one of the juries.
4 likes@crowtservo I think your dad is very cool and down to earth. A dad we all want.
0 likes@Creative Solutions strange family is right. "Hey gorgeous, how you doin''?" WTF? "Wanna be able to reach out and give you the big [he stammers significantly] the big Papa Joe hug." (And she reacts in distress tears- NOT tears because she wants a hug from him, because he is reminding her in a covert power play that she is helpless, and better play along.) He doesn't refer to Caylee. He says, "but cha know, we gotta get that little girl back." His grandaughter. He refers to her like THAT? Because it's a farce. He knows Caylee is dead and all of this is a ruse and Casey is expected to take the fall.
4 likesLooking at the comments, it appears only a couple people recognized even a fraction of how strange that "family" is. So much wrong. So many points along the way, things said, plus how they were said, and in the context they were said, it adds up to a different story than portrayed. People with complex developmental trauma sometimes survive in strange ways and find bizarre dissociative behaviors dominating their lives. It is never an excuse or justification, yet the affects of prolonged developmental trauma can lead people to do unthinkable things. Still terrible, yet different than if the person who behaved that way had never been through hell and had never had anyone to help.
The way that both Casey's parents acted on the phone/video call at the jail was weird, in numerous ways. But when the grandfather referred to Caylee, the way he did was creepy af. I knew that second something was WRONG there. I went back and watched again and noticed the way the grandmother leaned on the grandfather when he called his daughter in a profoundly inappropriate manner for all things considered, "hey gorgeous". UGH. Add that up with how her parents kept up appearances with a party (to serve their own interests) instead of taking a course of action like normal healthy parents would do to DEAL with the situation and problem solve to HELP their daughter get her shit together--- add it all up, the picture is far more clear.
Wasn't shocked when the defense brought up why Casey has an artificial persona. She's fucked up in the head bad, and her father was probably gonna do the same to her little girl. If he hadn't already started. Imagine - your own father abusing you, and he's a cop. Who do you go to for help? Mom is protecting him, in denial, and possibly also under his coercive abusive control. Wouldn't justify her failing to protect her daughter- but it explains it. All this is way more common than any of you know. Study the professionals. Not youtube. The work of Dr. Judith Herman and Dr. Bessel Van Der Kolk make this all add up in ways that nothing adds up otherwise. If Casey were a cold psychopath, she would have demonstrated signs sooner. She was instead traumatized, victimized chronically, and severely dissociated -- a walking shell of a girl keeping up appearances to serve her parents illegitimate "needs" and dying inside emotionally.
On the 911 call, I got my first red flags. The grandmother. Several things she said combined became an enormous red flag and were essentially incongruous. The video makers is dead wrong about the defense lawyer. Consummate professional. Also, watching Casey's face and her own father's while tje verdicts were read, yeah. He's the monster. She was victimized and no one actually knows how or what motive was behind the death of Caylee. Casey may have been acting as victims do, protecting her own abuser, the entire time. It would explain all of the bizarre behaviors. Better than any other proposed speculation. Wait. Who was the biological father of Caylee? Oh man. Now we have motive. Fucking hell. Geebus fuck fuck. Gah.
Been studying this stuff for years. In this case, I'm inclined to think justice was served. Partial justice. Casey's father needs to be investigated. Mother too, but pops is the perp, mother enabled him (and she probably survived an abusive home of origin too). Not all who suffer do go on to get ensnared by abusers as "partners" who then enlist them to abuse others, but it's terribly common. I watched this from the start believing (trying) the way it was presented. I couldn't ignore what I saw and heard though. And watching it the second time through a different lens, it ALL made more sense. No less horrific, but the pieces fit and some of Casey's behavior was less odd. She was lying and directing attention away from her parents (as expected) but was making herself look bad. But she hasn't been groomed to think of herself. She was groomed to be a sacrificial lamb to the people who were supposed to love and care for her needs.
@Amanda Ho That's what I was thinking. People out here complaining about their graduation party... I'm all "WTF, you had a graduation party?"
2 likes@Sparky Thancztwise exactly!! I didn’t understand how in any of the comments no one seen any that. I did and as soon as the “hello gorgeous “ body language from mom dad and daughter was telling and their interactions very strange.
0 likesThis whole video reminds me of .. every child deserves parents, but not every parent deserves a child ... Casey is an disgusting excuse of an human...
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Yes. And this is one of the strongest reason to provide safe and anonymous abortion early on. Women who are not wired to be mothers but are forced by social or legal systems to become one end up being abusive or neglecting in most cases.
48 likes@RewiredHuman Yeah, I totally agree with Babyshark, but doesn't your solution remove his point. If "every child deserves parents," how would killing the child help?
7 likes@REcurve32 well if you kill the fetus before its a person, problem solved.
23 likesbut seriously, legislating against abortion always ends in children neglect and abuse, not to mention it ruins the parents' lives if they aren't prepared or don't want a child. all lives involved are wrecked.
@REcurve32 A fetus isn't a person yet.
15 likes@Cole444Train @ Kikiapina But isn't the fetus a different entity distinct from the parent?
2 likes@RewiredHuman Before getting pregnant and having to do an abortion; just don't have sex without condoms or any stuff that prevides pregnancy.
1 like@David Himmelfahrt i mean sure, but in America, sex education is TERRIBLE and there are many places that lack access to affordable contraceptives.
5 likesSo, the same people who want to outlaw abortion also dont want kids to learn about safe sex and dont want government funded healthcare and cheap/free contraceptives.
@REcurve32 I guess? I don't think that matters, not sure how that relates to my comment at all. But alright, the fetus is completely reliant on the pregnant woman for survival.
5 likesIf someone is reliant on my nutrients and body to survive, it is my right to stop providing my body as a source for those things.
@Cole444Train I mean if you choose to have that person rely on your survival knowing the consequences it’s fucked up to just cut them off when it’s your fault they’re there in the first place
1 like@Cole444Train The thing reliant on your nutrients is another life that in the future will be subject to everything you are as a living person. Just because it's reliant on you doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with it.
1 likeI agree with abortion, I just don't like the reason you provided. abortion is a way of preventing the potential suffering the child may suffer being neglected and the potential suffering the woman may suffer as a consequence of an unwanted pregnancy.
Since the women's suffering is much more present and therefore vital than that of an unborn baby it's safe to give all the rights for the woman to decide, but if there's ever a way to continue the pregnancy while being sure that neither the woman nor the children will suffer any consequences then we should do so.
@Ouroboros Regardless of how it effects others, I cannot be forced to donate the use of my body. that's why we ask if people want to be organ donors. It is my body, your body, etc. We can always choose to keep it to ourselves or do whatever we want with it.
3 likesOutlawing abortion doesn't afford women that choice. It's basically saying "i don't care that it's your body, you must do this." Bodily autonomy is a very important right for all individuals.
Of course it would be nice of my to keep someone alive if they depend on my body to do so, but that doesn't mean i dont have the right to choose.
@Cole444Train Well, my thinking is that because a fetus is distinct from its mother, then it would fall under the classification of personhood. Similarly, someone who is comatose still counts as a person, despite being reliant on their medical machines.
2 likesI think we agree there, but where I lose your train of thought is when we can stop providing resources. -- If a person had, out of desperation, plugged their oxygen machine into my outlet, would it be okay to take it out? I don't particularly think the person on oxygen had much of right to use my electricity; however, now that he exists, wouldn't unplugging him be a form of manslaughter?
I think that works quite clearly when the mother can provide for the child, but when there isn't enough for both... although, I suppose that brings up a different question about distribution.
@Cole444Train Bodily autonomy only matters when inflicting on it's autonomy will bring distress to the person. If donating organs was a completely harmless thing I think people who refuse to donate their organs because of body autonomy would be looked down upon because essentially, they wouldn't lose or suffer anything. That was my point.
0 likesGuess I came off as being too confrontational. Wasn't my intention. You can't feed others if you are starving. Attempting to create life when you aren't willing nor able to nurture it is pure insanity.
This is why people hate lawyers...
0 likesWho else now feels weird when they see lawyers? 🙋🏻♀️
1 likeMakes you think how many horribel people they have freed.
@Ouroboros donating organs is a completely harmless thing. choosing to be an organ donor when you get your driver's license means you agree to donate your organs after you die... how does that harm you?
1 like@Cole444Train It doesn't, but I was thinking of donating organs while alive to save someone else.
0 likesEvery human deserves justices, but not every justice deserves humans.
0 likes@David Himmelfahrt “just don’t have sex without condoms” if only someone thought of that before, how insightful, sounds like you have a future career in policing
0 likesMaybe people should have close watch on parents and not be afraid to step in if they see their parents behaving inappropriately instead of saying that they don’t want get involved in family business or let them get a pass just because their grown ups. Kids don’t need parents, they just need people that can fill that role for them, adults that are capable at raising kids. They don’t have to be related through blood.
0 likesAnyone else absolutely livid she wasn’t found guilty?
1295 likesMost incompetent Jury ever. At the very very least it’s child neglect
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That's why I don't like lawyers. They seemed to manipulate justice for the wrongdoings of their clients.
80 likesI agree and there was no justice for this poor little baby. What a demented lot they were on that jury.
53 likesThe only thing worse than the jury though is the defense attorney trying to cover for a child murderer
52 likesJust awful that a child murderer goes free just because she’s a woman and not a man. We see this happen all the time.
43 likes@TraceguyRune normally I feel bad for attorneys having to defend murderers and stuff, but she slept with hers so I can’t feel bad
16 likesrace might be a reason why she was found not guilty
8 likes@Ceez B , yes, but gender bias is statistically 3x more significant than racial bias. They’ve managed to measure both.
23 likesIt wasn’t proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The juries job isn’t to give there personal opinion on whether they think she did it or not. I would personally wager that she killed her daughter, but if I were on the jury solely looking at the facts presented, I would find there was room for doubt.
18 likes@YoungMasterWilliam BS. Explain the hair and dead body odor in the trunk. Explain the fact that she did not care to contact the police about the missing. The grandmother called after 30 days. How long was she planning to wait? How long would you wait to call the cops for your child? More than 30 days?
30 likes@TraceguyRune you clearly didn’t watch the whole video
7 likesThey overcharged and lacked vital evidence like cause of death. I told my mom during this trial they went hard on the murder charge and she was gonna walk. She did it but the law is the law and it sucks
10 likes@Jef Alpante the lawyers just did their job to make the justice system fair. Without lawyers on both side a lot of innocent people would go to jail (more than already do)
10 likes@Jef Alpante everyone is entitled to defense, whether they're guilty or not. The job of a defense attorney is to make the prosecution prove it's case beyond a reasonable doubt. It's essential to our justice system. The true failings were in the prosecution, and whatever the bullshit instructions the judge gave the jury. And the jury as well, honestly.
7 likesI'm fucking fuming
5 likes@Eriml yes
1 like@MsKezza333 it wasnt the juries fault, the prosecution overcharged her. You cant charge a death penalty case with only circumstantial evidence. And the defense attorney isnt bad either, he did his job and he did it well. Everyone is entitled to a defense regardless of how horrible we think they are. If you start picking and choosing who is allowed to have a proper defense and who is not we run into much bigger problems
12 likesSay what you will, but Jose Baez was amazingly effective in the case, even if he did participate in things he'd criticize the prosecution for. Did Casey kill Caylee and dispose of her body? All signs point to yes. At the very least, did Casey know what happened? Absolutely. But you're all proving Baez's point. Take emotion out of it. Like JCS said, that closing argument saved her ass -- the constant drilling into the jury's heads that the court of law does not run on emotion but proven evidence was brilliant. It put just enough doubt into play and essentially told the jury "Did you personally see Casey put tape over Caylee's mouth? Did you personally see her dump the body? Is there photographic evidence of the crime? No. Then there's doubt." It's a sleazy move that let a horrible person walk free, but damn, Baez was good. In this instance, I wish he wasn't.
8 likesThe verdict was correct. If you cannot prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt, you cannot convict. Doesn't matter if she did it or not, our penal system couldn't prove it. I just wish every trial was prosecuted in this manner, especially a certain recent high-profile case.
3 likes@YoungMasterWilliam Thank you, fuck... looking at the rest of these comments, I am terrified of what our judicial system has become. Innocent until proven guilty is fucking GONE in America.
1 like@Wesu Maru would you still have the same response if that was your baby that was found dead? The truth of the matter is that the judicial system is not fit for purpose. It cannot fully deliver justice with 100% accuracy consistently. The real fundamental issue is our technological capabilities don’t meet the needs of evidence capture yet.
4 likes@TraceguyRune it's not bs, he's stating literally how the system works.
0 likes@Jesse Charles It is too BS because there is 0 doubt.
0 likes@Ceez B I KNEW there’d be one of you! 🤡
0 likes@Wesu Maru The key word is ‘reasonable.’ I agree that too many innocent people are being put behind bars, but we also don’t have to have pictures, a DNA profile on the body, and the cops witnessing her drowning her daughter. As the comments in this thread and every other thread have shown, there is no reasonable person who doubts her guilt. 100% say: ‘she did it, but...’. I will concede that I would rather have a system that lets too many guilty people walk than innocent people locked up. I just don’t believe this case is one of those cases on the fence. For egregious examples of cases with serious reasonable doubt, check out Sandy Melgar or Daniel Holtzclaw.
1 like@Nicholas Price No, the key word is beyond 'A' reasonable doubt, as in ANY reasonable doubt.
3 likes@Wesu Maru What? That’s not a distinction. Not a reasonable person on the planet has any doubt as to her guilt based on the substantial circumstantial evidence. Again, we don’t have to have video of the crime to convict a person. Cartesian certainty isn’t the standard.
0 likesim fuming mate, whenever iwatch this guys videos im always like "well at least they got what they deserved" and im always so glad when the verdict comes out guilty, i was like wtf how has she gotten away with murdering her own child.
0 likesIt's frustrating to see how good of a lawyer she has. Twisting words and emotions to make it seem she's innocent
0 likesThere is a saying about criminal justice - it's better to let 10 murderers go, than wrongly convict one innocent person.
0 likesI had to learn to meditate after the verdict because my blood pressure shot up so bad my ears were ringing
1 likeLivid? Bruh she a white lady in the US and A. The only surprise I got from this case that she didn't receive any recompensation for stress caused by the trial.
0 likes@YoungMasterWilliam Wow you are the type of people that leave they're common sense at home.
0 likesThat's why you need use proofs and evidences and not emotions. People, Even murderer, are not guilty until proven!
0 likes@Jef Alpante Getting angry at the defence attorney doesn't make any sense. Anyone standing on trial in the US is entitled specifically to a zealous advocate. Not an apathetic advocate, not an ambivalent advocate - zealous. They have an ethical obligation to provide the best defence they can and they're going up against the state, which always has every conceivable advantage and resource at their disposal without limit. The defendant's counsel did absolutely nothing wrong in their argumentation, it was the state and jury who botched the trial and are now responsible for letting someone who committed infanticide off the hook.
0 likesi’m literally disgusted that she was found not guilty.
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@j a what do you mean
17 likesshes white
207 likes@Connor Nyhan I don't think you understand the meaning of incel, Please use the words that are actually relevant to an arguement made.
169 likesThanks for letting me know, so i don't waste my time watching this.
15 likes@j a 100% spot on
14 likes@Connor Nyhan so because you agree with him that makes you an incel as well, okay
17 likesThe amount of drama you started😂😂😂
2 likes@j a it doesn’t matter if she was a woman or man, white or black. The prosecution proved she was a liar but failed to prove anything else. Don’t get me wrong I 100% believe she’s guilty! But they lacked any evidence to tie her to the death. They couldn’t determine the cause of death. All her defense had to do was raise reasonable doubt and they did. It’s one of those weird cases just like oj where everyone knows they did it they just can’t prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
34 likes@j a people tend to be more forgiving to women than men, but I highly doubt a case as serious as this was decided by the person's gender
20 likes@j a This bias is even apparent when the defense accuse Casey’s father of sexually assaulting her at a young age, instead of accusing the mother or both, to make it seem more likely it actually happened, and to present the bias reasonably.
10 likes@j a most underrated comment here^^^
2 likes@j a thank you for the great explanation sir!
1 like@Ramus V it's not about the outcome bruh. it's an interesting video. for the outcome of these stories you can just use google lol
4 likes@farah z female privilege
8 likesWell thanks for ruining it for everyone
0 likes@j a thats sadly cery true. In a lot of cases women are actually given less of a harsh sentence than a man for the same crime due to this nature and its disgusting.
5 likes@j a You know.. that oddly makes sence
0 likes@j a While I agree to this to some extent, in recent years this has been changing
1 likeForeal
0 likesmh-hmmm
0 likesI DIDNT FINISH THE VIDEO YEt, SHE WASNT WHAT NOW?!?!?!?!?!?!?
2 likes@Connor Nyhan yeah you're definitely low on the spectrum.
2 likes@PanPan there's literally no evidence of that he just said that it's funny because his entire thing is evidence but then almost everything that he was saying I had no evidence
0 likes@Connor Nyhan I’m a married white woman and I totally agree with @j a. She never would have gotten off if she was black or Hispanic, or a man in general.
6 likes@j a I kind of agree with your initial statement, yet some points were doubtfully correct but imma add this, the sentence may depends on the jury's decision and the jury is retrospectively made to be neutral and to able to give an answer/a sentence (that's their job) about the whole situation whatever if the charged is a man or a woman.
2 likesEither way, if there's not enough evidences, the accused may not be found guilty and this applies on both genders.
Finally, society related, we all have to agree on the fact that men (generally speaking) may be way more disturbing/worrisome than women and so, that some women can have it easier done than said.
@PanPan cause her father killed his daughter and lied about 90% of anything he said the detectives and released and is still not in prison
0 likes@j a specifically being a white women from at least a middle class background. I do think that if Casey was poor she would have been convicted.
1 like@No Name cause one leads to someone being free when they should be in prison and the other leads to people most often being detained for 10-30min
0 likes@Connor Nyhan Spot on! He's totally right and i can't deny, but how dare he point out sexism? Incel!
1 like@Connor Nyhan they aren’t an incel, it’s true. the legal system does not punish women nearly as bad as men. they literally gave you an example.
4 likes@ella Spot on! About most of the crimes in america are committed by men, so of course there's female privilege! But I don't dare to talk about that you know, let's ignore that and talk about race.
0 likes@Joanna she is white and privileged tho lol
4 likes@Joanna race and gender both play an unfair role in the legal system, it’s 100% valid to bring race into it
1 like@No Name Spot on! Because profiling = sentencing verdict now!
0 likes@No Name happens a lot more then you think. And if you truly think being detained for 10-30min because u match the description is worse then a murder walking free u got a problem
0 likes@j a What the hell are you talking about? What bias? The majority of people disagreed with the verdict. 12 years later and they still do, most people think she killed her daughter. The jury did not like her at all...
5 likesFrom the Wiki page: "Juror number two, a 46-year-old male who requested to stay unidentified, told the St. Petersburg Times that "everybody agreed if we were going fully on feelings and emotions, [Anthony] was done". He stated that a lack of evidence was the reason for the not-guilty verdict: "I just swear to God ... I wish we had more evidence to put her away. I truly do ... But it wasn't there." He also said that Anthony was "not a good person in my opinion".
The prosecution had a theory about what happened, there was no cause of death, the reason she was found not guilty is because there was no evidence, not because of bias in her favour. In fact, people are biased against her, because she did not behave the way we would expect a grieving mother to behave, that's not enough to prove murder though.
@Yung Slae and a woman.
0 likesWhy literally?
0 likesYes she was but she's not off the hook. There is still a final judgment that awaits her and every other child murderer.
1 like@j a "agreeing with blatant murder" lol... The autopsy was done on skeletal remains, the cause of death was undetermined, it was impossible for the medical examiner to figure out what exactly killed the little girl.
2 likes@ella the fact that men commit more crimes doesn’t negate the fact that women are treated with more leniency. her being a woman did help her receive the not guilty charge.
0 likes@j a Well, I didn't mean to come across as an asshole, or an "angry feminist" lol. I just disagree that bias had anything to do with the way this case turned out. I mean, look at this comment section, most people think she did it, so I see no bias in her favour that's all.
2 likesThere is a bias against men definitely, probably because most violent crimes are committed by men, men in general are seen as more of a danger than women. A lot of people get away with murder and a lot of innocent people are in jail when they shouldn't be. In this case, I followed the trial when it happened, and I have more faith in the jury than I have in public opinion, if that were me, I wouldn't feel comfortable sending anyone to Death Row unless I was 100% sure.
@Dark Satellites stop embarrassing yourself 🤣
0 likes@j a Where are you getting info that she is working at a school?
0 likes@Yung Slae And?
0 likes@j a blame other men for that view point lol
3 likes@j a Well, thanks :) I'll definitely check it out.
0 likesSpoiler...
0 likes:(
0 likes@Yung Slae oh yeah as the jury must be unanimous, im sure exactly what was going through every single juror's mind at the time of the trial was "if she was black i would vote to convict." also, have you even watched the trial before making this baseless claim? the defence did an impeccable job.
0 likes@Connor Nyhan buzzwords
0 likes@Connor Nyhan thats not what an incel is.
0 likes@dannyboyc3po it’s a very well known case most people know about it already
0 likes@dannyboyc3po well the comment section is meant to be about the video.. don’t wanna spoil it for ur self..? Wait til the end we’re not gonna be here talking about skittles
0 likes@J 23 what the actual f*ck
0 likesOh stop shedid the rightthin
0 likes@Yung Slae can I ask you why jussie smollett got off with all charges dropped
1 likeEveryone .. I think
0 likes@Brendan Geraghty so why isnt jussie smollett in prison right now he just had all charges dropped?
0 likes@Yung Slae Nice joke. People have no problems going after "pillaged" people now or else the media would hound them.
0 likesEdit: gee thanks for the likes
0 likesDaughter of a cop, never once faced consequences for anything her whole life
0 likes@Joanna it certainly is a part of it whether you wanna admit it or not
0 likes@Connor Nyhan that means you are too 🤣
0 likes@No Name YES THIS
1 like@Calxn if that’s all you honestly believe is the case… I’m sorry for how out of touch you are, but at the same time, I’m happy u at least acknowledge systemic racism
0 likes@Alina Prodan they found it was definitely a homicide, as well as the things used to kill the child next to it…. It’s like having a bullet hole in someone and a gun matching the gun fired, but because you don’t see the bullet that hit him, you assume they weren’t shot
0 likes@William Stewart using OJ is kinda hilarious considering the whole reason he got off, was because unfortunately, The civil rights movement helped the guilty man walk free, because of the racist cops who dealt with OJ… but go on
0 likes@Jreads he was disowned after the bs he pulled 💀
0 likes@PanPan that was a lie created by the defense
0 likes@William Stewart Youre using one of a few cases, we’re using one of thousands…. Hundreds of thousands over the history of the US but I digress.
0 likesUr comparing a court case filled with corruption, racism, publicity, and jurors who admit they were blinded by the media to Casey, who is clearly guilty beyond all doubt and yet got off scot free. I guarantee you that would never have happened to a POC
@j a woah bruv
0 likesjust wait til you hear about the Derek Chauvin verdict
0 likesHeart breaking story .. great videos so interesting
0 likesLiterally? Like you puked?
0 likes@Yung Slae no she's a woman that's why
0 likes@Connor Nyhan he’s an incel for making a valid point?
0 likeswow ok spoiler alert
0 likes@Connor Nyhan that’s extremely ignorant. the point that they’re making is true. women are typically seen more as victims than men.
0 likes@Kingof Grim Ummm....no they didn't....
0 likes@No Name Spot on! How dare anyone rage about sexism, am I right? Such nerve...
0 likes@Alina Prodan you either didn’t watch the video, trial, or both. They found a dead body of a baby in the swamp, who was found with tape over their nose and mouth. Idk about u but that doesn’t sound like drowning.
0 likesAlso they concluded it was definitely a homicide JUST BASED ON SKELETAL REMAINS which means it was pretty much 10000% sure it’s a homicide. The only way Casey is innocent is if she made the child kill themselves or had her boyfriend do it
I still cannot wrap my mind around how she was not found guilty
0 likes@Kingof Grim As I said before: skeletal remains were found, do you understand what that means? Can you imagine what that looks like? There was no duct tape found on the mouth and nose because there was no mouth and nose, there was very little soft tissue left on the skull...it had decomposed...the duct tape was stuck to hair. This was actually debated at trial. The death was ruled a homicide because there was a very high suspicion of foul play; but the actual cause of death was IMPOSSIBLE to be determined. At that point you have investigators trying to figure out what happened, presenting theories etc... I never said the girl drowned, what I said is: the cause of death is unknown. Which makes proving murder a lot more difficult
0 likes@No Name Spot on! Gender profiling exists therefore sexism is imaginary!
0 likes@No Name that has nothing to do with the case what so fucking ever. It’s clear as day she did it. And the gender bias leads to people not being seen guilty cause of their gender not being guilty cause of their gender
0 likes@No Name no she was found not guilty cause the jury believed she was innocent. No Innocent person has their car smelling like decomposition, waits a month to inform the cops, and lies the cops repeatedly
0 likes@No Name bruh you don’t get it. The point is no murderer should walk free
0 likesDon't talk about your emotions , Who knows maybe she is innocent
2 likes@ella what is the correlation from leniency to what gender commits more crimes on average? Are you saying that it’s obvious they get leniency because women commit less crimes ? So we aren’t judging by the individual anymore? Also you believe that the system is corrupt to suit the needs of white people but couldn’t possibly be corrupt in sexism ? Is racism and sexism really that far apart in your mind? Does that mean some people deserve equality before others ? I wouldn’t be calling anyone a dumbass because what you said is objectively non sensical and your backwards thinking isn’t progressive for anyone, I doubt that there is a single person out there of any race, sex, religion that would want you speaking for them.. you acknowledging systematic racism while refuting the existence of sexism is disgusting
0 likes@Marro Wolf she’s white
0 likes@ella nice
0 likes@Marro Wolf she’s white lol
0 likes@ella and a woman.
0 likes@Marro Wolf yup that’s her gender!
0 likesI've showed more emotion being told a table of two at a restaurant was going to be a 45 minute wait, than Casey ever showed for her missing daughter.
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So damn true
20 likesI've showed more emotions over my minecraft dog dying than her showing emotions for caylee. I even built a fucking memorial that took hours to build for my dog.
46 likesi show more emotion going to the toilet
12 likesTo be fair it really sucks waiting for food.
6 likeswas that because you couldn't stand that persons company? ha
0 likesDamn right! I won't wait in any line, ever.
2 likesi’ve shown more emotion staring at a wall than casey ever did
2 likesI’ve shown more emotion seeing a pimple on my chin.
2 likesYES!!!!!
1 likeThe fact that she did not end up in prison is literally the most absurd thing I've heard in 2020
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Thank you I think it had alot to do with her dad being a former detective they smell dead body smell.It makes me so angry she got off
54 likesHonestly. Im blown away by wat I just watched.
11 likesyou know who to hire if you are ever in need of legal advise
6 likesWhat!!! She got off??? I'm in Ireland, so never heard much about this casr.
12 likesTry this one on for size, she’s said to be currently making a movie about her daughters death
8 likesI'm just glad that I read this comment before I watch the whole video. imagine that I waste an hour of my time and get disappointed 😔
2 likesI mean does it really matter? The globalists are going to push us into a new world order soon using the great reset and the plan is to get rid of a large portion of the population over the course of a decade. Fuck it i say let her party it out while she has the time
7 likes@murt l Sure did. She's also know as "The Most Hated Woman in The US"
5 likesAnd that’s saying something
0 likesThe case seems absurd, almost made up., like O.J. a ratings tv drama
2 likesthe fact Biden won the vote in america is the second absurd thing ive heard in 2020
12 likes@murt l she spent 3 years waiting but yah
0 likes@Megan Maleficent Human beings are biologically programmed to be protective of their own race. To a lesser degree, the same goes for class. It's science. Throughout the world in general, the numerically dominant race dominates in just about every respect.That's not the whole story, but it does play a much larger role than BLM et al. like to admit. The United States has been majority white for a long time (I'm aware of the crimes of the latter; I'm simply making a point).
4 likesIt's also had a huge middle class for a long time that likes to identify with classes above it because that's human nature too. Lots of middle class folks are opposed to massive tax hikes for the rich because they see themselves as being rich someday. When you put those things together, it's not that surprising that missing white children of the middle class or above make headlines. Obviously, racism plays a role. But it's way, way more complicated than the BLM narrative allows.
I suspect that if a doll-like, monied, minority female child went missing, with her hot sociopathic mom as the main suspect, it would garner tons of attention. But all that aside, white America's majority is rapidly shrinking. The imbalance you describe will naturally correct itself over time. Activism may speed it up, but it'll only play a part.
Finally, there's another injustice at play in this story that skips the question of race altogether. If Caylee's dad had done everything that Casey did, he would have been found guilty for sure. Women are indescribably privileged when it comes to this kind of crime (& many others). I think if we could all calm down somehow & try to view the whole picture together, it would be of enormous benefit to cultural harmony.
*Edited for grammar
Oh. That might explain why I saw the title of another video asking was she innocent or not..
0 likes@Megan Maleficent are you suggesting a poor white person would have gotten off too?
4 likesI know this shit is crazy
0 likes@TomHud There's no way Trump would be reelected, the NWO had already chosen Biden as the new puppet long time ago.
0 likesIn a fair world Trump would be 2020 president.
@Roxane Johnny yeah, from personal experience it’s not a smell you ever forget, or confuse with anything else.
2 likes@Megan Maleficent circumstantial evidence is considered legitimate evidence in the United States. It is completely possible and even common for people to be found guilty of a crime based only on circumstantial evidence. Indeed circumstantial evidence is often considered more reliable than direct evidence, as something like security footage of a person leaving the scene of a crime with a weapon (circumstantial evidence) is more reliable than a witness testimony to the person committing the crime (direct evidence) considering possible mistaken identity.
2 likesIn this case the circumstantial evidence is very strong.
Casey claimed to have spoken to her daughter within a week of the 911 call. This is impossible if forensics are considered. A single fact like this has been sufficient in other cases to put people in prison.
Casey misled police by taking them around town, actions which by her own admission only hurt the chances of them finding her daughter. While not evidence of any further crimes, this is itself a crime, and is not the action of a concerned mother looking for her children. It’s a bit like being seen in the area where an armed robbery recently occurred while wearing a ski mask and brandishing a gun. Inferential evidence.
Casey did not act in a manner which was in line with her innocence. She didn’t call the police when her daughter went missing, her mom had to do so. Even if we assume that she was afraid, what did she do to try to get her daughter back?
The smell of death reported from the car is another point.
The provable fabrication of every detail of Casey’s story another. Why would an innocent person do that? Why not just say the actual name of the kidnapper? Or the actual circumstances surrounding the disappearance?
Need a body , other wise go to prison for what .
1 like@Megan Maleficent Are you? Many murderers get either exonerated or end up going free because some piece of evidence gets thrown out. Doesn't mean they aren't guilty. You said there's so many innocent women of color convicted of killing their children but the one name you gave me wasn't even convicted of that. Where are your facts?
3 likesmight aswell happen
0 likes@Megan Maleficent 1) I didn’t mention the google search history because I don’t find that evidence very convincing
2 likes2) I am arguing that the case against Casey was very strong because of how strong the evidence was. If another person was locked up in an identical case that strengthens my argument.
3) the name of the kidnapper given was an outright and provable fabrication.
4) I’m not arguing that race has no impact on the treatment of suspects in criminal justice system. It definitely does have some impact, however I would argue that Casey Anthony didn’t get off because she was white. Many white people are in prison based on weaker cases, as have members of all races, creeds, and social status. I find the verdict inexplicable in light of the evidence, and do legitimately wonder about what must have happened in the jury room, though I think the majority of the credit must go to her legal team.
@Megan Maleficent true about pretty white women getting more media attention which can help to close these cases, however the sentencing is about the same when priors are taken into consideration with all races. Women seem to get off easier, which bares out in statistics. The court system as shitty as it is, still seems to be mostly fair.
0 likes@Megan Maleficent I disagree. The state had a weak case. Just like with OJ. We know both her and OJ are guilty but when evidence is tampered with like in OJ, than it is hard to take any police witnesses seriously, and with her the state used pseudo science such as a smelling machine which hurt them, plus the state failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that her positive defenses were untruw
1 like@Megan Maleficent those statistics represent how much crime is committed by various demographics.
0 likes@The Mecoptera those facts and others you brought up make it 99% likely that she is guilty, but in the united states we say it is better for one million guilty people to go free that one innocent be even accused of crime. 99% likelihood is not enough to meet the reasonable doubt burden
0 likes@Anna Lewisf they are basically codependent. The mom still thinks Casey is innocent. Her father knows she is guilty
0 likes@Megan Maleficent but why you gotta make this a race thing tho
4 likesPUT HER AWAY.
0 likespeople get killed by the police but people who make others suffer get to be free. i guess when they said that she's sane, they're referring to the true nature of humans which is to be cruel. if that's the case then im happy to be insane.
1 likeholding women culpable is sexist patriarchal oppression..
0 likesit would be cruel to send a woman to prison..
feminist equality!
smh
#Justice4Caylee
0 likes@Megan Maleficent I agreed with you on everything. I'm not even white lol Some of these people smh...
0 likesJoe Biden “winning” the election is more absurd! Sorry.
0 likesUmmm this was 9yrs ago
0 likesthere's no proof what you mean?
0 likesWell that and Corona
0 likesShe got 4 years.
0 likes@Roxane Johnny plus she is not going get a husband or bf
0 likesNah we still have covid
0 likes@Amano how so? I found it extremely entertaining and was hoping the whole time she would be released. Such a relief that they actually did.
0 likesBro at 31:30 she says that they didn't use the babysitters full name. That's all you need to know about her IQ.
1 likeProsecutor: you killed your daughter!
0 likesCasey: I was rapped!
Holy shit she hired Saul Goodman
3 likesWe all know that she is guilty, right?
1 likeReality-tv has indeed melt the brains of the jury pool. With several other things, of course.
0 likesShe’s was talking to the detectives like if she just met them on the elevator or on the bus or something 🤦🏼♀️
0 likesCome ON prosecution… From the opening statement you could see how monotone their tone of voice was… sad that the defence could be so unethical…
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Defence actually was ethical. Prosecution fucked up big time, overconfident, lazy, sleepwalking on the idea that it’s a slam dunk. While the defence brought out all the stops.
0 likesAsk urself first, y she doesnt show any emotion talking to her father, even him telling her about hus T-Shirt, showing her missing daughter. And then ask urself, y her father never adresses her situation, being kept in prison. This can be interpreted in 2 ways. Shes killed her daughter- at least its so likely she did, that one must assume so. Try to interpret her behaviour not just in one way though. Try finding a pattern in her behaviour, which explains all her behaviors to at least 90 percent- or as much at least, as makes u get a clue out of it and her behavior alltogether makes sense.
0 likesHow the hell is she free?
4 likesshe acts like she's trying to ace a job interview in the video footage. super scary
0 likesOutrageous result. That woman does not deserve to be anywhere else but prison.
0 likesWe miss you, Jim
1 likeLesson here is: If your mom looks like she was made with the Oblivion character creator, run.
1 likeok ALL evidence was pointing towards her, and even wrote in her DIARY abt how much fun she’s had the time period of her daughters supposed ‘missing’. They now release her with clear evidence, so now that she’s cleared they are just going to leave her daughters murder uncleared, possibly like who tf is the killer if it’s not her mother, who else could know and want to potentially kill a 6 year old girl. Story does not add up, yes, props lawyers for trying their best to win the case of trying to kind casey guilty, but to lose such a clear case? i don’t know how that happens and i don’t know who to give props to, the offensive team for being good lawyers and some how convinced the jury, or props to the jury for not seeing the evidence. beats me, not like she’ll have a normal life, no insurance, no company, no house land owners would want her anywhere near. but still, she needs to be in jail.
0 likesShe lies the whole time and they say "you only think she's a liar" lol what
0 likesGeorge was the only one with any common sense. I hope terrible things happen to Casey. She's evil
1 likeShe definitely killed her kid but that lawyer has some charisma
0 likesI will never understand how someone could hurt their own child. A human being in which they helped create. Baffles me.
0 likesAlso- can I steal her dad? Asking for a “friend” that has a bad dad 🌚 them trying to blame him for her murdering her own child. Disgusting
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The thug couldn’t raise a honest caring daughter and allowed her to get away with so much and defend her lock his ass up to
0 likesWow she is such a liar. The only reason she is afraid of seeing her mother when her daughter went missing, is because she had a guilty conscience. I mean if I panicked about my child being missing, I would immediately call someone for help, in fact, I would call several people.
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I know, right? Everything she says is a lie. How does she make up these imaginary people? Poor Jeff too... got dragged into a murder case.
0 likesthis case just prove that the american justice system got a big problem
0 likesI’m absolutely disgusted by this woman but I really gotta admit, she is a very skilled speaker/liar her nonchalantess when she lies is so scary bruh 💀, if she had a few more brain-cells she might’ve actually pulled something off
0 likesThis case makes me so angry to think about.
0 likesshe had 31 days to come up wit a story and all these. damn lies... pure evil
0 likesNotice how she keeps saying “I haven’t seen her in 5 weeks”
3 likesBecause that’s a true statement. And she thought that by wording it that way - she wouldn’t show signs of lying since she did kill her daughter 5 weeks ago. Or whatever.
LOL, I didn't realize that Merle updated his favorite way to make her explode in pure bliss, it’s amazingly satisfying. Although what he suggested before was fairly good, it doesn’t even compare, I did it go’ogling Merle Winestol, and she just can’t have enough now.
0 likesI truly believe Zanny the nanny was Xanax and she overdosed her.
1 likeNever underestimate the lengths a woman will go to, to have her freedom.
0 likesDisturbing that her parents discovered she was lying about not being able to graduate school and still threw her a graduation party and pretended she had a degree to all of their family members.
458 likesIt shows you that this behavior was not only always around in Casey, but it was rewarded and never punished. She truly thought she could get away with anything in life so long as she keeps up the lies and so far she really has.
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Yeah, I have seen that unfold badly in my own family, where one member has always been rescued by his parents, so he has never learned to deal properly with situations that go bad. Parents that let their kids get off the hook in every situation is unintentionally doing them a disservice.
5 likes@Piper Mccoy what do you mean?
1 like@Piper Mccoy oh, yeah, i noticed that, true.
1 likeI detected a Karen family in this video
1 likeShe did get away with everything In life
2 likes@Piper Mccoy the parents were probably trained by police to get her to give them clues about the child's whereabouts or to confess. Beside's that 9 days without seeing her when she was in jail is a lot of time for police and parents to fill in how her growing up really was. Atm she said "you have been the best grandfather" "she had the best grandparents" is was obv the girl was gone. Her dad talking all kind is a way to make her trust them so she could tell what she really knew about her kid's "disappearance".
1 like@Piper Mccoy so when two people are conversing and you are beside one of them. You would stare at the opposing person throughout the whole conversation.
0 likesThe Jury Got Payed Off, The Public Defender Payed Them Off So He Can Get His Owned Business.. What A Life
1 likeMost kidnappers always state ' do not go to the cops , or they'll die "
0 likesOh fack, I totally forgot about Casey Anthony. Man, what a throwback.
1 likeshe got away with murdering her child and she's is not the first and at this rate she wont be the last.
0 likesi wish i had not watched this as i am infureated by the verdict.
I don’t know why they don’t bring a lie detector to such situations like this.. she would be unmasked so quickly if they did that.
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lie detectors aren’t admissible in court due to they aren’t super accurate, so unfortunately i feel like one wouldn’t have done much here 😥
0 likes@Isabel Rodriguez They aren't accurate whatsoever which is why it's labeled pseudoscience.
0 likesTo this day, I still don't understand how she is able to walk free.
0 likesThat lawyer has a special place in hell to get her free
1 likeIn a recent article, she now lives in Florida, owns a private investigation firm, and LIVES WITH PATRICK MCKENNA. She says she does not want answers for caylee, that's a closed chapter in her life (cause she's the one who closed it) and she's not opposed to having another kid
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Who is Patrick McKenna?
0 likesOh how ironic of her to open a private investigation firm.
It makes me sick that after all the blatant lies and atrocities, Casey is living her life freely while the poor child that she brought to this world didn't even get to enjoy a glimpse of it, because she was murdered by her own mother. No one with a grain of salt in their mind actually believes she was innocent. The prosecution didn't, the defence didn't, even the jury didn't, and yet they left her go completely unpunished, because of a "lack of evidence". A murderer, which is considered to be guilty by all parts involved, went unpunished because of the rules of the system, even though the system itself knew she was guilty. I've seen cases with much less physical evidence result in very harsh sentences in US trials. It just makes me sick. How can this case go without a culprit? If Caylee died by accident, how was there duct tape on her body? How were there "foolproof suffocation" searches done by Casey? And most of all, if Caylee had indeed died by accident and Casey was just scared to report it, how are there photos of her nightclubbing, dancing and smiling in the days immediately after the "accidental" death of her daughter? How is there footage of her casually buying a movie with her boyfriend on the very same day her daughter died "by accident"? How does she go and get a Bella Vita tattoo not even two weeks after her daughter "accidentally" died? How does she write on her diary that she is "happier than she's ever been"? If your child dies by accident, how can you be happy, let alone happier than you've ever been? It's literally IMPOSSIBLE, it's straight up bullshit, these are literally the actions of someone who is happy and convinced that she's gonna get away with by simply avoiding to say that her daughter is missing or dead, cause she's always lied and she's always got away with it in the end. And the thing that hurts the most is that she got away with it again, all that matters in the end is that Casey WON. Justice didn't win, the justice system didn't win, the attorneys didn't win, nobody won, but Casey WON. She got exactly what she wanted. She's the only one that won. While her daughter and everybody else lost.
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There's time for everyone, you may lie, you may run, you may hide, but destiny will catch up sooner or later, one day. I know a lot of people are going to go on full hate about this, with questions like "If He exists why did he allow this to happen" and blabla, but believe me when I say, that God will make her pay. Sooner or later, if not in this life, then in the afterlife. But her time will come, don't you worry, if she truly is the murderer of her daughter, then she will not escape fate.
80 likesI hope someone finds her. Justice will catch up with her, one way or another
36 likesKarma will surely set in one way or another. Maybe someone will set this straight and “return to sender”
24 likeswhoa you wrote a lot. not gonna read it but just want to clarify that her daughter drowned in a pool.
2 likesYES! SHE IS LITERALLY 35 NOW AND IS LIVING HER LIFE COMPLETELY FINE
15 likes@roger douglas yeah I doubt you actually believe that. Probably a troll
38 likesI hate witch hunts, and mob justice. Attacking people on mere whims solely through hearsay and flimsy allegations.
28 likesThat being said, wow the weather is great outside. Pitchforks are on sale too. Would be a real great day to witch hunt for a bitch c-- well, y'know.
@Lol REplayZ not a religious person myself, but I hope you're right!
11 likesJustice is only what we make of it.
4 likes@Lol REplayZ yess, thats why I’m glad Hell exists
4 likesAnd I feel so bad for her parents who she made up these terrible lies about
12 likesYou couldn't have said it better, my friend..
7 likesI fully agree with you. Absolutely sickening.
Perfectly said 👍
5 likesjury could have still voted for guilty without evidence.
7 likesNot enough evidence my ass. It’s unbelievable that a killer gets to walk free in this country.
11 likes@michael brinks she doesn't hide, she hangs out at all the hottest night spots and clubs in West Palm.
5 likesDont worry my guy... like many other lost souls who have not yet paid for their sins, she will pay for it with interests in Hell. She will most likely die ALONE and a horrible one too
2 likesI don't think "rules of the system" is the best way to describe the wrongness, even the judge was shocked that she walked. Based on what I've read and this vid, the jury just were too afraid to sentence her to death without a smoking gun, with a prison sentence I suspect it would've been different. It didn't help that the parents apparently tried all they could to save her, and acted pretty shadily.
2 likes@roger douglas with tape on her nose and mouth? in a blanket? which it very much stated in the video.
6 likes@roger douglas If you had read what the commenter said, then you wouldn’t believe Casey’s daughter simply drowned in a pool. Duct tape on the corpse? Pictures of the mother clubbing and partying days after the incident? An entry in the mother’s diary saying she’s “happier than she’s ever been”? I call bullshit on her daughter accidentally drowning. Not to mention how you admit to not reading any of it and remaining ignorant to any other information involved.
9 likes@S the internet searches about suffocation were not discovered until AFTER the trial was over.
3 likesThose who do evil will receive their punishment
1 like@roger douglas just to CLARIFY her daughter was murdered by her mother. This innocent beautiful little girl, murdered by the evil woman who brought her into this world.
2 likesthis is why these videos suck because they are very misleading and guided towards the creators intent.
2 likesits on record what happened.
daughter drowned in pool.
mother panicked and wrapped her up in blanket and duct taped it to stay shut.
sure she may have gone over the face in the process.
dumped body so mother wouldn't kill her for how stupid she was to let this happen.
end of story.
you shouldn't try and assume the worst out of people, especially when all you are doing is listening to what a random youtube video tells you.
@roger douglas if you did your research, you would know that after all of the lies that zanny “kidnapped” her daughter (why the fuck would she lie about that) detectives finally figured out that she lied about everything. Graduating, pregnancy, zanny, and most importantly the fact that her daughter was MISSING FOR MONTHS before FINALLY her MOM HAD TO REPORT HER. She didn’t tell her mother OR her father OR her brother that her own DAUGHTER was missing. Caylee’s decomposing body was IN HER CAR while she stayed at her boyfriends house. Then she lied in court about how her FATHER molested her, all the while her father getting pushed off the edge, attempting to end his life. She got off with 3 years of prison some of which were for completely unrelated crimes. You are standing up for a murderer. A woman who murdered her OWN daughter and then let her body decompose before finally wrapping her up in a blanket and throwing her in a ditch. She deserves life. And you do not deserve to be commenting on ANYONES post. Ever.
12 likes@Steven Stamper is that so
0 likes@DANIEL MCQUADE Not exactly. We could blame the jury, yes, but as seen in the video the fault falls on the prosecution. The reason Casey Anthony is living her best life right now is that the defense was just pretty good at their job. Prosecution allowed the defense to control the case, failed to argue against the simple facts that an accidental death wouldn't end up with a taped and bound body, and didn't argue the fact that the defense was emotionally manipulating the jury while arguing accusing the prosecution of doing it.
3 likesroger douglas No she didn't. Her mother killed her. Period. She went to blockbuster a day after she claimed she went missing with the nanny, she got a tattoo a week later saying something about living life to the fullest, she went partying during the month her daughter was supposedly missing, she wrote in her journal that she "hoped the means justified the end and that she was happier than she had been in awhile." This written by a women who supposedly thought her daughter was missing. Don't be stupid.
4 likes@Liv Ehh just stating facts, nothing personal here. believe what you want. i'll respect you either way.
1 like@S You dont have to believe me. Just google "Casey Anthony firefox history" and find out for yourself. And theres nothing new that can come up that would re-open the case. She was tried and found not guilty. Its over
0 likes@roger douglas i fucking love schizos
0 likes@S Not the legal systems fault that the investigators and prosecution completely bungled the case.
1 like@UppyMcDowny they're bemoaning the double jeopardy clause, not so much the investigation, and prosecution
2 likes@roger douglas Oh no, God forbid we read something.
2 likes@Onix A. Rodriguez I know. Im saying that the case wouldnt have needed a re-opening and 2nd attempt if the prosecution hadnt been so inept the first time.
1 like@michael brinks She is with her defense attorney and they just opened an investigation business together. She will be perfectly fine. Man doesn’t always reap what he sows.
0 likes@Lol REplayZ I hope we are right on that. Thank you for the comment ❤️
1 like@Lol REplayZ Amen. Glory to Jesus Christ. Its not up to us to judge anyone anyway.
1 likeThis comment deserves more attention
0 likes@Lady Helix That figures, she's with a lawyer.If a defense attorney can get a child molester/murder off that they know is guilty. They will, not caring that they're gonna murder another kid if they go free.
0 likes@roger douglas I truly, truly can not fathom how you can listen to this woman speak and buy into the utter bullshit that she spews. Like she literally admits to lying to law enforcement in the middle of an investigation. And for what? She says she is scared? That immediately points to a greater concern for her own welfare, rather than that of her 3 year old child. It actually amazes me that someone could be so gullible that they would believe an admitted pathological liar
3 likesIf this horrifies you. Look at the case of Furuta Junko in Japan.
0 likesapparently she’s been getting assaulted in public recently and having drinks thrown at her at bars. it’s not enough of a punishment I hope she gets the punishment she deserves
1 likeTotally agree 💯 its sickening
0 likesI just wish everyone knew the type of people that run the whole system. They would of basically fucking loved that a little girl was killed and I promise you that’s why Casey got off. Crazy I know.
1 like@Little_hunt3r read a news article that said she was 2 blocks from my house at a bar a couple weeks ago, and that she regularly goes out to the bars here.
0 likesIf i ever run into her here i don't know what I'll do. But ill do something.
@Lol REplayZ no god would let someone walk free from child murder
0 likesNo job will want to hire her, I’m sure there are a lot of people who don’t want to be around her. She’s going to be a lonely person…and karma will get her
0 likes@Athena the poop poop poop I hope no one suffers in pain, everyone will have their justice eventually, one way or another!
0 likes@RobyRossTTV Amen brother.
0 likes@Hideyoshi Just because she is living freely now doesn't mean God has let her walk away free, justice isn't always swift, neither is punishment. Sometimes our Lord works in mysterious ways, payback time will always come.
0 likes@N There's a place for everyone eventually, my dear friend.
0 likesI guess now every psychopath knows how to get away with murder by watching this... terrifying
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What lol?
0 likesChild is missing for 30 days: Doesn't call police, goes partying, writes in journal "best day of my life"
0 likesperson spills water down her leg: calls police in 3 seconds flat
Putting tape aroud a kids head after you found it dead in the pool seems very common then. No further questions your honor…
0 likesWon’t be the last time Casey will lie her way out of trouble and her parents will enabler her to do so. They created a monster and now they have to continue to feed the beast. RIP little one. You deserved better than these ugly people whom I’m sure karma is waiting for.
0 likesAnd people still found her innocent…… wtf
0 likesIs ot odd that watching this in 2022 the oddest thing I took away from this video is that they still had Blockbuster Videos in 2008? I thought they died off long before that lol
0 likesHOW TF DID THEY LOSE THIS CASE????!!!
0 likesThe prosecution should be fired .
1 likeFacts against Casey Anthony:
1784 likes1. She never called police once.
2. She in no way showed concern for the wellbeing of her child.
3. She lead detectives to multiple fake locations.
4. She lied about having a nanny.
5. She lied about where she was.
6. She lied about who she was with.
7. She Googled how to suffocate someone.
8. The mother said her car smelled like a dead body.
9. She showed no sympathy to her parents and loved ones.
10. She wrote in her personal diary she has never been happier. (knowing her daughter is missing at this point)
11. Caylee had duct tape on her mouth and nose and died of suffocation, yet Casey and her attorney said she had drowned.
12. Regardless of any facts against Casey Anthony, Casey still dumped a 3 year old little girls body in a swamp 4 days after her death.
Facts helping Casey Anthony:
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(Edit: After reading some of the comments on this post, I now understand why Casey Anthony was found not guilty.....sad)
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Facts helping Casey Anthony:
285 likes1. She is a woman
@D U aaaand you ruined it
111 likes@cowqult how did that ruin it. It's true, she even had sexual interactions with her own attorney. She used her... "good" looks during court as well. It's the white woman tears and the incompetence of the prosecution.
275 likes@imnotglutenfree very much facts
40 likes@Butterfly Xx Thanks :-) also to prove that yes, it is helping that she's a woman: whenever a mother murders a child or a child goes missing or ends up dead, it makes international news. Because people cannot believe that a mother (a woman), would do something so heinous to their own child or anyone because women are "nurturing," and yada yada. So they don't except Casey to do something like that, if it was a man, he would've gotten a jail sentence real quick. Sad, but true.
93 likes@imnotglutenfree exactly and it really frustrates me that the jury couldn’t look away from that and focus on all the lying and shit she had done its rlly crazy
28 likesThe case wasn't that easy. Read more into it.
12 likes@D U nope not that, it was that she was white 😐
27 likesI honestly don't know what is wrong with people in Florida. Everybody in the country knew she was OBVIOUSLY guilty. The Jury should be placed in jail
53 likesNone of that proves she did it, it's all just circumstancial.
3 likes@Warne Goodman but it still pointed any suspicion or evidence to her like how are you gonna go through all of that and her ending up laughing it off and saying it was a lie and still say that shes not guilty??? (the part that she laughed it off was when she took them to universal studios and led them to a dead end multiple times) like what??? 😐
23 likes@Warne Goodman Googling how to strangle someone, being the last person to see that person alive, AND the victim being strangled as well, DIRECTLY connects her to the crime.
37 likesFacts helping Casey Anthony:
16 likes1. No direct evidence. No eyewitness, no confession, no murder weapon (duct tape was never proven to be the cause of the baby's death)
Not saying Casey is not a liar or a horrible mother cause we all know she could care less about her own child but it doesn't necessarily make her a murderer.
@shine l She lied about the nanny... direct evidence right there, Its a conflict of interest for her to lie. She claimed the nanny must of done it. That was her whole defense, Once that defense shattered AND ONLY once it was no longer viable did she try to play the victim and change her defense to I was raped so that made me a pathological liar. No the duct tape wasn't without a reasonable doubt the murder weapon, But it still directly correlates with the 3 year olds death by suffocation, Which was confirmed by the autopsy .
36 likesIf you believe she is innocent you must be from Florida.
@Poopy Lmao at Florida. Sorry to say but not from FL dude. Nor do I think she's innocent. Just saying, the jury's decision is not without reason. And no, the fact that she lied is not evidence to her guilt. It does prove that she obstructed justice (to which she was proven guilty) but it did not prove that she killed her child. It's circumstancial at best. Same with the duct tape. The expert witness couldn't confirm that it was the cause of the baby's death. It does however highly suggest that it was affixed to the baby at some point. There is just not enough evidence to prove her guilt.
11 likesA hot woman no body equal not guilty
0 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z really? 🙄
0 likes@imnotglutenfree You really didn't have to include race in it
10 likes@D U what facts do you think helped O.J. Simpson get a not guilty verdict? Probably money and fame. What a crazy world we live in..
6 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z No, stop playing the victim card; maybe if it was a poc male it would've been worse but not for a poc female. The people aren't dumb and look at a thorough investigation through these types of interrogations to further proceed. They wouldn't get thrown into jail immediately either. And if they get shot, they only get shot while they're at a crime scene or trying to arrest them.
9 likesThe problem is that those are just indications. Yes it's very likely that she did do it. But maybe there are reasons we can't think of why she is doing these things and acting like this, while not doing it.
4 likesThe last thing we want is to lock innocent people up for life. So that is what you need to ask yourself. If you lock people up who are likely not innocent but you can't know for sure, but also lock people away who are innocent. Would you really want to do that? Is it worth the freedom of someone who is innocent to pay for the crimes of others?
@Slartibartfart yeah guys, lets consider was Slartibartfart said before we put race and gender into theory.
3 likes@shine l so you don’t think she murdered her?
0 likesI don't get this either! Only in USA
2 likes@JaykoFPS personally, i think she most likely did. And even if she didn't, it is obvious she did not want that child. I mean girl cant even wait to celebrate her new childless status.
2 likesFacts helping Casey anthony
12 likes1. The prosecution sucked absolute ass.
@Everything & Nothing right, most other countries just convict every single person who comes into their court.
0 likesThe simple fact is that the prosecution had to be stellar to wkn this case, as they had zero evidence that wasn't circumstantial.
5 likesWell, aliens could've killed her daughter and wiped Casey's mind, and she only just remembered 31 days later......... To be honest i'm surprised this wasn't something the defence said lmao
2 likes@John Salem i wouldn't say they had to be "stellar" to win, but at least decent. the jury's main reasons for not finding Casey guilty were
6 likes1. They did not know if suffocation or drowning was the cause of Caylees death
2. They did not know if the smell in the family car was rotting garbage or a rotting body (this was never clarified in court)
3. I don't believe the nanny was even brought up in the trial. So the jury did not even know that Casey lied about "Zenaida" and tried to send the police on her trail
4. The jury said they felt the prosecution was arrogant and cold while the defense was thorough and compassionate.
Basically, the evidence was stacked to the roof against Casey. But the prosecution was too cocky and dropped the ball. Furthermore, their should have been a mistrial regardless due to the defense's unsubstantiated accusation against the meter reader who found Caylee and the accusations against Casey's father which I won't bother to repeat as they are, very obviously, false. This garnered a lot of last minute sympathy, and it was a lie, so it should not have been allowed to influence the jury's decision. Unfortunately, we had an incompetent prosecutor and a bad judge who allowed the defense to input doubt into the jury. They all thought Casey might be guilty, and they all hated her, but they could not say for sure that she was guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt"
@ShortPatatoeSam Z race may of played a part in this case but the main factor is that she is a women.
3 likes@shine l don’t have kids
0 likes7. She Googled how to suffocate someone. Wasn't evidence at the trial that came up afterwords- https://tinyurl.com/y3rjp2u4 this youtube video doesn't make that clear.
0 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z Women of all races are statistically more likely to get a not guilty verdict or lower sentences. Its one of the many flaws of our justice system
1 like@D U 2. She’s white
0 likesThis is underrated holy fuck
0 likesIt is the justice system guys. That's how it works. There isn't any direct evidence without doubt to prove she was the murderer. As an example think about the youtube algorithm, which provides you cute cat videos to horrible and esoteric videos. Imagine if someone accused you of murder because you saw a violent video. If she was convicted based on your emotions, then someday some innocent will also be punished because of your emotions. That's why the justice system works on hard evidence and nothing else. It might be unfortunate in this case, but it is the right decision.
9 likes@Kryzs Kornhell I actually did... non of the jurors agreed with their statements after there was more evidence to go off
0 likesEven Poopy Doopy knows better than the jury.
1 likeFacts helping Casey Anthony:
1 likeShe is reserved (so you wouldn't know if she was remorseful/concerned for her daughter if she was feeling it for this reason).
There is no evidence/proof that Casey killed her daughter.
All we know is that Caylee was killed.
We don't know who.
Emotion was used to pit people against Casey without evidence that she had done anything.
For people who are so sure that Casey did it, there are no finger prints, blood, or any kind of DNA to prove that Casey was involved or was deliberately killed her daughter, or the evidence would have been there to prove that.
I watched this a long ago as a teenager thinking this whole charade the media broadcasting was inappropriate from the beginning, and coming back to this again many years later, I still think Casey was innocent.
Unless there is a confession or some kind of smoking gun proof that she did it, there is no right or reason to think that she did it.
@Amber Slahlize are you serious right now? She lied about literally everything, why would she feel the need to lie if she didn’t do something? She lied about not knowing where her kid was, she lied about the kid napping she lied about who she got the info about the nanny she lied about where and who she worked with she lied about everything
4 likes@MessedUp Pika Yup. I know people who lie, even as well as her, still not compulsive liar, or sociopath, just another type of social style which many people don't understand or consider.
1 likeThey come across as insensitive, but that's because they are highly reserved, and highly task oriented, they often concern themselves with dominating the situation rather than worrying about relationships, they are the lest agreeable of people, and well, she fits the bill for this type of social style.
She got arrested, lying is one of the many responses a person can have when they get arrested, besides it's not proof of a crime.
All we know is she is a very private person, she mentioned how her name was smeared all over media, thus confirming my statement.
Oh yeah, these types of people also have highly controlled facial expressions, and there are not many of them in a society because well, society doesn't recognize them, so you wouldn't understand a person like this if you met them in real life.
@MessedUp Pika Okay honey, come back when your arguments are not emotionally driven.
3 likes@MessedUp Pika I dated a sociopath...Casey is not a sociopath. lol
1 like@Amber Slahlize bro watch this over again 🤦♂️ it obvious she lied to her lawyer because she said her daughter drowned which is clearly a lie, you tape someone mouth and nose because they died, then she said she couldn’t be happier after her kid died not when she got out of jail, how could she be so called “numb” after blatantly lying to the police about it? That’s not how that works “hunny”, why would anyone need to ask her why she looked up strangulation near the time of her daughters death that’s like that’s like asking someone why they looked up how to steal credit cards after finding out they stole a bunch of money from peoples credit cards, do you not understand emotions is what drives everyone “hunny”? We would care if someone died if we didn’t have emotions just like her.
2 likes@Amber Slahlize the murderer sociopath your defending used her emotions to her way in court
3 likes@Shades 1.5 yes it is, she lied and made 3 stories
0 likes@Shades 1.5 no there is enough hard evidence for my “emotions and half truths” not to even matter, lying through your teeth about a murder in any way like she did is clearly proof enough let alone all the other stuff she did
0 likes@D U A young, attractive, and White woman.
1 like@MessedUp Pika As far as I know there is no evidence of Casey herself killing her child. Just the fact that she didnt care about her child and googled how to suffocate somebody doesnt prove that she actually did put duct tape over Caylees mouth.
1 like@Ange Einstein then she wouldn’t need to lie
1 like@MessedUp Pika Why she lied is a different question. It still doesnt prove that she did it. (Just because she lied dosnt mean it couldnt have been someone else)
1 like@Ange Einstein her lying mixed with everything else really does point every finger to her and no one else
0 likesNo one of these facts report "She killed her daugther", therefore she's innocent.
0 likes@finmat95 you are correct In the idea no 1 of these ideas do but the conglomerate do
0 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z nope it’s a pretty woman she can be any color as long as she’s pretty.
1 like@D U she is a white woman**
1 like@prisha being a woman is way more help than being white.
1 like@finmat95 No but the facts paint a clear picture of child neglect. In which she faced no charges for.
2 likesCan you explain why she was found not guilty? I don't see anything in the comments to explain it.
1 like@lovetinagoxi no hard evidance against her .even though they all know what happened
0 likes@Yazmurat A. race is in everything in this country
2 likes@John Salem all evidence is circumstantial like ??
0 likes@Warne Goodman you don't understand how circumstantial evidence works
0 likes@Slartibartfart I completely agree... I am not sure that she is innocent. But neither am I sure she is guilty. And if the jury thinks like I did they would see that they cannot say that she is guilty without a shadow of doubt. If they cannot say she is guilty the only option is a not-guilty verdict.
0 likes@D U *she is a white woman, but yeah
0 likes@Sukirina i catn believe the detective are smarter than the jury
0 likes@alfred lauridsen no... most of it implicates her, but if I personally look at the evidence I see that she is an absolute crap person, a terrible mother, very suspicious, and self-absorbed. But I personally cannot 100% say that she is guilty. I mean... I think she is guilty. But I don't know for sure.
0 likes@Reese Ochoa most of us aren't standing up for her. We think she could be responsible for her daughter's death, but the evidence does not prove that. It implies that she is guilty.
0 likesBut since there is doubt a not-guilty verdict is in my opinion the lawful outcome.
@Scuba J yes, really 🙄
0 likes@Yazmurat A. 1. this was in Florida, 2. do you really think that poc woman dont get treated as badly as the poc men when it comes to police??? like have you not seen the amount of people killed just for their skin color or cause they ‘looked suspicious’ 😐
0 likes@John Salem also that the system is absolutely fücked up
0 likes@Daniel sanchezaldana correction, a pretty ‘white woman’, like dude tell that to all the other pretty poc woman that were actually innocent but still killed immediately in their own homes without notice. 😐
0 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z No they don't. POC woman do not get treated badly as POC men. And if you're bringing race into this video I can tell you probably didn't even watch the video or you know little to nothing about the law system.
0 likes@Purple Heart Especially when people like you mention it all the time
0 likes@SS Exactly. All the people including race and gender like they have no idea how the system works. Do they really think they won't put a murderer in jail just cause he/she is white? Thats ridiculous. But here, there isn't any clear evidence to link her with the murder. Although there have been clues. They need evidence not emotions.
0 likesI'd recommend to everyone in this thread the movie "12 Angry Men", which deals in the matter of the jury standards for condemning people on murder cases. Other subjective superstitions one may have comes after this.
0 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z a pretty woman of any color has the befit of the doubt over any man. Tell that to all the men who face much harsher sentences for the same crimes as women of any color.
0 likes@Fatbunnies27 I'm not a lawyer, are you? If so please explain it to me.
0 likes@Tu L'aimes all of that evidence is circumstantial....if you disagree, point out where I'm wrong.
0 likes@Abby Mahmoud Good point, perhaps I give the prosecution 2 much credit. Let me clarify. They needed to be decent to have a chance in this case, stellar to make it a slam dunk.
0 likes@Yazmurat A. nope i watched the whole video, and can see that they can tell shes lying so i dont get why shes not being charged for at least something
0 likes@Daniel sanchezaldana i know thats why in one of my comments i said its cause shes a white woman, and know that woman in general can get off easier than men
0 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z you don't get charged for lying unless you lie under oath. Unless maybe you really really pissed them off hahahaa but even then probably not.
0 likes@Yazmurat A. well i mean i am kinda pissed off cause she has to have had a connection at least in the disappearance of her daughter, but other than that she did lie to them under oath or like the bible oath thing in an interrogation and led them to multiple fake locations
0 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z Lying in an interrogation doesn't count as lying under oath. Lying under oath happens in court. Also, she did serve 4 years for lying to police but apparently got released few weeks later. Honestly though, I am pissed she didn't get arrested, but once again, there is no direct evidence linking her to the death. But If I were to refer to her to someone, I would refer to her as a murderer.
1 like@Yazmurat A. well hey at least we can agree that we both think shes the murderer, and even if she wasnt i still think that shed be connected to it some how like hiring someone to do it ya know?
0 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z ya but it’s not about white or black it’s about money. A black man with money can do much better than a white man with no money. women overall regardless of color will do better than a man.
0 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z The thing is we know for a fact nobody else could have done this besides her. Everybody knows she killed her daughter, even the person defending Casey which I believe is her lawyer, but yet theres no evidence, and he obviously needs to defend her where he can. Her car which smelled like a dead body and the google searches (which sadly wasnt discovered before the trial) just proves she did it. Had the court known about the google searches beforehand, she most likely would've been convicted. Maybe they should've reopened the case. But fr though, judging by the way she used to live when she had Caylee, she probably just didnt want a child. She probably though it was a mistake and didn't want to look after her and would feel ashamed if Caylee understood that reality so she killed her. As of 2021, its in the news that shes filming a movie. The name is "As I was told"
1 like@Daniel sanchezaldana well yea but you do know the modo that the US has been going off for centuries, ‘protect the white woman our national treasure from -insert what ever war was going on-“ and till this day they use that modo yea its changed through out the years and this was in 2008 but they wouldve still thought she was innocent in a sense just cause shes a white woman with privilege, cause ‘a white woman, especially a mother could never do this to their child or to anyone at that’. 😐
0 likes@Yazmurat A. like ik the foster system is also absolute shįt but i wouldve rather have that poor child be in it or better yet be with her grandparents, rather than be dead right now, like she wouldve been that same age as me rn and its soo messed up to know that she couldve had a better life if it wasnt for her terrible mother
0 likes@Daniel sanchezaldana and to add on to my last reply to you, this is also florida we’re talking about. 😐
0 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z 😂😂 😴
0 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z I don’t agree. I think a black woman could’ve gotten off as long as she had that lawyer. Oj did it.
0 likesWow, the logic in some of these replies are outrageous. Under the same logic, Charles Manson did nothing wrong! Here's what we know:
2 likes1.) There's not enough evidence to show his involvement.
2.) He may have said such things and done research on who to kill, but that doesn't prove he did anything.
3.) He read a book on how to start a race war, but didn't start one.
4.) He looks calm and crazy because he is trying to hide the pain of-blah blah blah
INB4, "Hurrr durrr, that's not the same as losing a child." You all need to be checked out.
@ShortPatatoeSam Z She would've been a month older than me. Its not easy to put up a 2 year old for foster or adoption and she probably would've had some shame in doing so.
0 likes@Yazmurat A. thats why i also said it wouldve also been better to be with the grandparents and plus i feel like that grandparents wouldve loved her better seeing as how they obviously cared a lot more than the mom
0 likes@ShortPatatoeSam Z yes that has also been in my head fuck all the circumstances this is Florida lol
1 like@Poopy The google searches weren't discovered during the case. I don't blame you cause the commentator didn't explicitly mention that.
0 likes@Yazmurat A. what do YOU mean people like me? explain yourself
0 likes@Purple Heart It was pretty self-explanatory
0 likesStill can't believe she walked
6 likesIt's something about Casey Anthony she is not telling the truth about what happened to her daughter and she was found not guilty so if she didn't do it who did it wasn't her father it wasn't her mother cause she put her family in a lot of pain and stress it's still something wrong about that case it's just doesn't seem right at all
0 likesShe understands lying but doesn't understand feelings
0 likesWe all know the single only reason she got away with this is because she's a woman who played the victim. Put a man in her shoes and the show's over. Fucking pathetic what people will justify when a pretty face full of tears spews abject lies to coerce pitty.
1 likerest in peace Caylee <3
1 likeMan I sure hope her life sucks, its so frustrating that she dodged all charges cause her lawyer is a damn good manipulator.
0 likes19:59 LAWL HE DELIVERED IT SO DRY PAN HE WAS PRACTICALLY MAKING FUN OF HER
0 likesShe clearly just says whatever will seemingly respond appropriately to questioner. Some kind of psychopathic. Do or don't her parents know this?
0 likes“Why are you calling now? Why didn’t you call 31 days ago?” You can tell that dispatcher knows somethings up and is pissed. She should’ve been found guilty the moment the dude she said she “met the nanny through” said he doesn’t even know anyone by that name. Obviously she’s lying and that nanny was created as a cover up. It pisses me off so bad that she got away with this.
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The guy didn’t even have a kid! Should’ve been the smoking gun.
13 likesThe grandma literally said on the 911 call that the car smelled like a dead body..........
20 likesdispatcher had more sense than the entire courtroom
12 likes@Locstaz how was it rigged? Who rigged it?
1 likeEven the dispatcher knew she was guilty by the first ten seconds of the call.
5 likesJagerfly Gaming you like the femme fatale type.
2 likesIt also started a bit of a pattern, IMO. Skylar Richardson “hides” her pregnancy, dumps the babies body by burying it near the house, LE doesn’t catch on til over a month later and when they find the baby they can’t determine cause of death, so Skylar, the baby killer, has bought herself the time she needs to get away with murder with an assist from her enabling mother. The blonde young cheerleader spends a total of four days in jail before posting bail and is found not guilty of all the killing charges and the judge gives no prison time for the things she’s found guilty of. If you’re young, attractive and at least middle class, just hide the remains of the child you killed long enough and there’s your reasonable doubt - no matter how obvious it is, no matter what the text messages say, common sense, etc.
4 likesI can’t believe we let Skylar Richardson and Casey Anthony kill their daughters with no repercussions.
Rodney Settle yeeea 😜😝😜😋👍🏻❤️
1 likeExactly right! It disgusts me
0 likes@Jagerfly Dream Vlogs she really is, it makes you wonder if that played into her not guilty verdict
1 likeJagerfly Gaming I can't agree. Too facially weird and homely.
0 likesgenobambino lol not in the night club pictures 😍
0 likesGuilty af
0 likesFr. I loved it when that man intervened and called out all the bs
0 likesDefense really pulled a Saul Goodman on a dead child. That's cold
1 likeIt’s… you know- It- It’s like what Childish Gambino said.
0 likes“Made the beat then murdered it
Casey Anthony”
Bonfire, off the 2011 Album Camp.
Not guilty ??? Not guilty ????? I can smell her guilt
1 likeBro one of the first things she did was make up a kid, of her “friend”, that didn’t even exist, to explain how she met a nanny, that also didn’t exist, to explain how her 3 year old daughter went missing? How the hell was she found innocent?
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She wasn't. She was found not guilty. It's not the same thing bud.
68 likes@Jim Mears Except that at the end of the day it is.
295 likes@Jim Mears lol you know what I meant professor
112 likes@Theo The man was correct. Being innocent and not being convinced of guilt are NOT the same thing.
41 likes@Thomas Revere his point was at the end of the day, being declared not guilty and being declared innocent are similar in the sense that the defendant doesnt serve time
92 likesThe prosecution were unable to prove how Caylee died, and so the compulsive liar got away with murder.
82 likes@cookie crumb I get it. I'm just saying that courts don't declare innocence. They declare guilt.
13 likes@cookie crumb The problem is, you're supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty." Innocence is the default setting for a Defendant no matter the facts of the case. It's always been that way, and should always be that way. Being found "not guilty" just means the jury didn't think any arguments or facts were compelling enough to send a presumed-innocent person to prison.
42 likesWe can speculate all day and form our own opinions, and judging by her actions in the case she probably did do what she was accused of. None of that really matters without enough hard facts to back it up, though. This isn't Twitter Court where you're always guilty even when proven innocent.
@ForeverLaxx mike drop, bitches!😁
5 likesI wonder if these lawyers ever think to themselves that they are covering for crime. I mean us viewers see the same evidence and anyone with common sense will have a strong suspicion towards Casey. Sure there are no concrete ones and by law she couldn't be found guilty, but do they ever look back and feel the shivers that they might have let a monster loose? @Jokka D
19 likesBecause her lawyer blamed it on Casys father. And her trash parents let her get away with it
8 likes@Theo tell that to OJ who was found not guilty in his criminal trial but liable for the wrongful death action and lost all his money. Beyond a ready doubt guilt (criminal trial) is much higher than more likely they did it than not guilt (civil trial)
0 likes@Hoàng Hà Lê The prosecution let a monster loose. The defense lawyers did the job they were paid to do which is put on the best defense they could. A jury of 12 people, with far more information than we have, said the state did not meet it's burden of beyond reasonable doubt. If her guilt is so obvious then this should have been easy for the state to prove.
5 likes@Hoàng Hà Lê There areee concretee ones. She searched on the iternet, on how to suffocate her child. Have you forgotten that
0 likes@Jim Mears “innocent until proven guilty”
0 likes@Thomas Revere WE KNOW. You're acting obtuse.
0 likes@Professionally Correct If y'all knew, I wouldn't have had to correct you.
0 likesall i can think of is insanity. but it wasn't an insanity PLEE. so shrugs
0 likes@Thomas Revere Explain the difference between the position of being innocent before the eyes of the law (a position everyone holds until found guilty) and being found not guilty, other than the latter coming after a trial. It just seems like you are being pedantic for no gain.
0 likes@ShesThe1yup being found not guilty because of insanity doesn't let you walk free tho, they put you into like an asylum where you'll probably do more time than you would've in jail
1 likewalking free because of insanity is a TV thing
@Kyryyn Lyyh an innocent verdict would mean that they're saying you didn't commit the crime and being found not guilty just means that there wasn't enough evidence to convict you but they're not saying anything about whether or not you committed the crime
0 likes@Kyryyn Lyyh If I say "x is not true", it's much different than saying "I'm not convinced x is true." That's how the courts operate. Y'all are too loose with language.
1 likeSomeone needs to hire a fucking hitman
0 likesSeveral jurors have come forward, saying they regret their vote of not guilty.
2 likes@ForeverLaxx the fact that she made up a non existent person who she swears had her kid, plus all the other lies related to it should be more than enough evidence to prove her guilt. Or at least guilty beyond a REASONABLE doubt.
1 like@Josh All they really proved was that she was a compulsive liar. It didn't really look like they had hard evidence and it was all circumstantial. There was no murder weapon, no prints, no witnesses... all they had was a pretty flimsy "who else would have had access" line. At best, they showed she didn't want anyone to know her kid was missing and that she didn't really care she was missing, not necessarily that she's the reason her kid is gone.
3 likesI'm not saying she didn't do it. I'm pretty convinced she did. What I am saying, though, is that the prosecution didn't do their job and they let the defense attorney walk all over them and change the focus from a "ruthlessly slain girl" to "a poor abused woman being unfairly targeted by police."
Honestly it was a brilliant move. The only thing the public seems to care about more than children is protecting women. He made her look like a victim and never brought up the facts of the case since those facts would only hurt his defense.
@ForeverLaxx but what innocent person would make up a nanny that doesn't exist when trying to find her own missing child. That's beyond a reasonable doubt.
1 like@Josh No, that's speculation. Like I said, all they really proved was that she knew the kid was missing and didn't care. They didn't have actual evidence she was involved and the defense attorney made sure to focus entirely on the made up abuse and unfair treatment story.
2 likesHindsight is 20/20 or whatever, but with what they had at that time and how badly the prosecution laid out the case, it's not really surprising where things ended up.
@ForeverLaxx all I'm saying is, call it what you will, but a system that let her walk free is clearly one that doesn't work.
2 likes@Do I have to put a name? it is a very important distinction tho
0 likesspoilers 💔
0 likesdumbest jury of all time
1 like@anon fool fair enough all I know is here in Australia they are closing down most Asylum and even giving lesser sentences to keep ppl out of the few that exist (only for the worst of the worst) its crazy
0 likes@Kenzis searching stuff on the internet isn't concrete proof though, i'm sure most people including you have likely searched for something that'd be illegal to do but haven't actually done it, i'm more concerned about the part where the defence says the baby drowned in a pool when the skeleton was found buried in a swamp with duct tape on its mouth
1 like@AleK You do search about suffocating a child do u?, i don't, seems pretty normal i guess to search that. in your opinion.
2 likesAnyway, the pool thing was 100% made up.
@Kenzis i wasn't being specific about what you search, but you could search for practically anything illegal and not have done it, which is why it wasn't counted as solid evidence
1 like@ForeverLaxx yeah but whats frustrating is innocent people have gone to jail for less.
2 likes@ForeverLaxx all true.
2 likesI wonder if the state could go after her for a child neglect case. It’s not the same charge, and I most certainly believe that there was sufficient evidence for prosecution, but nevertheless, this would at least be something, because she is absolutely guilty of neglect.
@Jokka D this is simply not true. Defense attorneys are an absolutely essential part of the justice system. All people, guilty or innocent, are due zealous and competent representation. It is the opposing sides job to paint a narrative that fit the facts of the case to be able to convince to convict.
1 likeThis system does guarantee that sometimes guilty people go free, but it also minimizes the amount of innocent people being incarcerated. To say they only care about money is absurd and baseless. I obviously agree that this monstrous woman is guilty, no question. The prosecution failed to convince. They failed this little girl.
But at the end of the day, all this is just man’s justice. She will not escape God’s justice, which is much more satisfying.
@Jokka D no the prosecution was shit
0 likesThe twists of her story throughout the video and people not even existing in her fictional timeline reminded me of fight club
0 likesi read the comments halfway through and stopped watching. it's fucking obnoxious how she got away with this and is also fucking writing a book to "SHARE HER SIDE OF THE STORY" and perhaps even making a movie about it like nah bro i'm actually FUMING WTF.
3 likesWell did Casey’s father go to jail for the stuff he did???
0 likesSomething I don’t understand: how are people like Casey created? Is she truly not very sad about her daughter’s death? Does she feel no remorse? And if so, is this a genetic or developmental disorder that affects the emotional and moral parts of the mind? Or does someone become like this from the circumstances in their life… How, someday, do I raise my kids so that the probability of this happening is zero?
0 likesyour daughter has been missing for 31 days & you’re telling me that you didn’t file a police report within the first 24 hours????? wowwww
0 likesDetective: What's your dentist's name? Casey: His name is...Crentist.
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This is exactly what I thought.
1 likeHer nanny’s name was Zanny.
karma is going to catch up with this one, ouch, you can bet that the momma thinks she got away with it, gonna be interesting when the sh!t hits the fan.
1 likeShe'd make a brilliant Politician.
0 likesI cant believe they found her not guilty
0 likesThat poor little girl 😭
0 likesshe only served two years that was it two fucking years for a monster how messed up is the system if a murderer only serves 2 years. if you kill someone with intent its life in prison, simple
0 likesJuliette Lewis is literally a famous actress
1 like10:26 this is the sickest burn that is literally nothing more than a statement of fact
0 likesHow her parents could still support her after smelling human decomposition in her car, & everything else is disgusting
0 likesPlease, consider the same facts, but change only one thing: the personality of the mother; how would this mother justify the use the duct tape?
0 likesi don’t understand this “justice” system.
0 likesShe's a narcissist. She seemed angry that everything was about her daughter, and not about her.
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Yes! She seemed so bothered that everyone was so concerned about her daughter. Ugh. I can't believe this monster is running around free.
105 likes@Lago Brian I don't get sociopath vibe from her- Socios are better at feigning empathy, I think.
37 likesSad how many crazies there are
5 likes@Death Row Executions Mental health care is a serious problem. It's difficult to talk about, and all too easily swept under rugs and ignored, or simply deemed too uncomfortable. As the child of a schizophrenic who has to be constantly vigilant against the disorder in myself, I'm actually glad that the general public is becoming more familiar with mental health traits and how to recognize them.
30 likesKaotiqua No, sociopaths fake all feelings, they have none.. it appears like faking empathy but what is really going on is they anticipate your reactions out of studying you then create a scenario where they can control how you feel.. it’s very elaborate and complex..
13 likes@Kaotiqua I agree with you. Although I don't excuse the people I tell stories about, majority of them I believe suffer from some sort of mental health issue. Thanks for sharing/replying and stay safe
1 likeEven in jail she was livid because she wasn't "in control" of things going on around her
5 likes@Colin D in saying that how does one explain her actions AFTER knowing her child is dead? I saw no heartache remorse or sympathy for HER child. I'm thinking I will never understand anything about Casey Anthony.
1 like@Debbie Sanderson I guess the experts are as baffled as we are. Maybe she is just plain evil.
2 likes@Colin D I'm not supposed to judge but its hard not to in her case. I'm supposed to pray for her but in all these years I still cannot.
0 likesShe's a step away from murdering anyone she gets remotely close to,
0 likesThere was insufficient evidence. The state didn’t have it, otherwise they would have used it - or maybe not !!??
4 likesThe Defense opening statement said something about Caylee drowning in the family pool.
But this video doesn’t unfold that. Hmmm!!!???
Are they saying she hid the body and lied because she felt overwhelming guilt?
Well why then the duck tape? Surely the state knows more. The boyfriend’s statements are not brought up in this video either, yet he is key. She confided in him. He was a high-rider nite club operator!!?
I’m concerned now knowing how people involved in child trafficking like Epstein and Maxwell have immunity.
She could have been coached on her bs names and story before police involvement. If she was promised immunity at the highest level, that would help account for her nonchalant attitude.
Like the car, this case smells.
Sounds just like trump
1 like@Kaotiqua true
0 likes@Lago Brian Absolutely correct.
0 likesKaotiqua both narcs and socios are Cluster B and there is almost 99% overlap.
1 likeColin D Psychopaths are sane.
0 likes@Serena Baney exactly, she was agitated and annoyed with the fact that it was about her daughter, she had definitely had a big part of her coming up missing and never retuning, she was so annoyed because she just wanted to forget about her daughter and the part she played in it all, I knew she was lying immediately when the investigator's were interviewing her initially, that is not the reaction of someone who's child has been gone for nearly a month, I and most caring and loving people would've reported it immediately and how is your babysitter gonna walk away with your daughter or son and be gone for nearly a month and you don't seem to notice or take action, that speaks for itself alone right there. She didn't want the responsibility and like the investigator's said, she wanted to run wild and live another life with no responsibility for her daughter, sad thing is also, that little girl trusted and loved her mom and never asked to be brought into this world. World class piece of sh... it! Sincerely Lorenzo gig harbor Washington.
0 likes@Lago Brian You clearly are not an expert in psychology; Sociopathy as a mental disorder does not indicate a lack of emotions, at all. you either made it up or believed someone who did. do some reading on the subject, now referred to as antisocial personality disorder.
2 likesyes ! i believe she only had caylee in the first place because of the extra attention pregnant women get she’s truly sick
1 like@Lago Brian That's what I said. sociopaths are better at feigning emotions and empathy. Feign means fake.
0 likesher expressions during the trial are so telling. The SECOND that "this is a story about Caylee" was said, she was PISSED and trying to mask it. She's sitting in court for the murder of a child and its still not enough attention. in a strange way, I pity how screwed up you have to be to warrant any of this. Caylee deserved her life far more than her mother.
0 likes@Colin D "normal range of narcissism" tells me they didnt do anything more than ask questions about self esteem. and unfortunately back in 2008 I dont think people widely accepted that narcissism like all personality disorders, is a scale. malignant narcissism/sociopathy is plain as day Casey.
0 likesJealous of her own baby
0 likesThe monsters mum and dad enable her to the maximum. The mum calls her sweetheart, the lady is not sweet! Not an ounce of sweet and they visit her even damn there are parents who hate their kids for being honest then there are parents who love their kids because they are compulsive liars. Yuck world gross people.
0 likesim sorry but this whole convo had me dead 21:28
1 likeLove the chanel, can't wait for more!
0 likesMan she was really hitting the bricks hard looking for Caylee in those night clubs 3 days after her disappearance.
1 likeThe fact that the nanny didn't exist should have been enough proof!
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Fact she called ln a missing kids report a month later!
105 likesthat proves she is a liar. listen, I'm not saying she is anything approaching a good person, I'm only saying I would have voted not guilty, too much doubt. Neglect, yep 100% but actually killing the baby, from ALL reports she was a good, loving mother, No one disputed that out of the 12 witnesses called .
18 likes@Drpepperspray1010 i watched the entire episode. Obviously the lawyer created reasonable doubt 🙄 I'm saying for me all of her lies and cover up is suspicious enough for me to think she harmed her child or had something to do with disposing her body. As a mother there is absolutely no way my toddler could be missing after I dropped her off at a nannys house. I would have called the police asap. Her response to her own child's supposed kidnapping/ abduction by the nanny is enough for any person to question the reliability of her character. Our justice system is majorly flawed when a lawyer can come in and make up stories with no evidence to back it up and get a murderer off. Happens too often, unfortunately. This case definitely needs to be reopened and retried with a jury who has enough common sense to see through the excuses and blame shifting.
31 likes@Sunny what about the Google searches about fullproof suffocation? What about the parents statement that the car smelled like a dead body? What about the lies she told the police? Did everyone suddenly forget about that just because the lawyer claimed she was molested? Did they forget because the lawyer said she drowned instead?...even though no autopsy proved that? The jury reacted with their emotions and felt bad for her because of some lies her lawyer made up. No justice has been served for that child.
74 likes@Thai Zeo and it wasn't her, it was the grandma reported it firsthand. The motive here man.... But this is her own daughter which are at loss here, and her own mother didn't even value her life
9 likesShe innocent dude jury said
3 likes@Valerie Cuevas that’s exactly what happened. The police and prosecutors had poor execution and the lawyer capitalized on that. Not only did the girl get no justice, but the father took a huge fall and will be labeled as a child molester probably until the day he dies.
19 likesRight?!! I cannot believe she walked out free, it makes zero sense to me..
6 likesSorry but the dad molestation thing was a bunch of bullshit. You could tell even in this video that she had no ill feeling toward her father until the end when using him as a scape goat. Nor was he even shaken about it when they said it. This was obviously planned. Even with his consent to do so. The man loved his daughter and even though he knew she killed his granddaughter still wanted to protect her. What this comes down to is just how fucked up our laws are. The prosecutors couldn’t 100% prove it. The defense pointed out they should not convict if that’s the case. Then next thing you know she’s innocent. Simple as that.
18 likes@pronoe I don't get it at all, she either buried her daughter because she's mentally ill (because of molesting and endless lies) and therefore she should be put in a sanitarium, or either she's not ill and buried her daughter understanding what she was doing. Two criminal psychiatrists didn't prove she was ill (as stated in the begging of this video), therefore all this bullshit about molesting and how pitiful she is is a complete nonsense. Did jury just sleep the hearings through? That's logic, if one is false, other is true. You can't bury your child in a swamp if you're mentally healthy and then go free. It's ridiculous.
16 likesIf she drowned in the pool, why the fuck there was a duct tape on her nose and mouth??? Defense didn't deny that the mother buried her child in a swamp, if so so why then she put a duct tape onto already drowned and dead child? To do what? To stop water flowing back out of her lungs? Ridiculous. Those juries should be fired.
@PAUL SORYU [Music] exactly! Those defense attorneys and the jury are shameful beyond words.
8 likesFr 😕
0 likesBro it would be straight up AGAINST THE LAW to use 'proof' and not PROVEN KNOWN FACTUAL EVIDENCES. So if she did kill her then I must say she is definitely a genius and has the law wrapped around her finger ngl
1 like@Sunny same here. I still still know what happened. The prosecution's theories don't sit well with me.
1 likeWhen I first heard the verdict, I couldn't believe it. As years went by and as I watched more stuff on the trial, I agree with the jury.
And as much as Baez annoys me, he is brilliant and he went on to prove that over and over by winning many more cases.
@PAUL SORYU [Music] no problem at all. There has to be proof to put someone in prison for life. If there's not proof, then sucks and I understand all sides but we can't go on suspicions.
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0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
Valerie Cuevas and all the 100 other lies she told🙄🙄🙄
1 likewait, if she drowned in the pool, why did the baby’s skull have duckt tape around its mouth?????!!! this is fucking infuriating
4 likes@Valerie Cuevas Amen to that!
1 likeFR!!
0 likesSeriously the most ridiculous part of the whole thing was her making up the nanny, and when asked her name she chose a name that rhymed, zanny the nanny... its like a child's lie lol
1 like@Drpepperspray1010 so why the parents are not in prison?
1 likeThe nanny was xanax.
0 likesExactly!
0 likesWhat, Zanny the Nanny doesn't sound like a real person to you?
0 likesJury was bought in my opinion, there's too much doubt and evidence to not rule it in her favor.
0 likesWhat's worse, her lying to dispatch, or knowing she's lying to dispatch cause that's the same way you lie?
0 likesThat baby deserved so much better out of love 😭
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0 likesI don't wanna deal with Prison court or DMV and the COPS! I stay away from people. Far far away from people.
0 likesI'm sorry, I truly am, but the judge @1:04:08 he starts gettin real comfy, enjoying the lawyer's show.
0 likesThat is beyond fucked up. That woman did it. Why else would she have lied on and on again and delayed the investigation? Why would she have been so indifferent about the death of HER CHILD?
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Weren't you listening! Cause of her childhood abuse and the need to lie and put on a straight face in spite of it, Duh!! 🥴🥴🙃🙃🥲🥲🤨🤨🤔🤔🙄🙄
109 likes@calebmon Well, OJ isn't female.
48 likes@calebmon Wish us Black women had that. lol..
45 likes@yeah right True! Maybe I should say "white female privilege" more specifically 🤔
33 likesAs guilty as sin.
10 likes@CBEST HELPER Naw, but he had "celebrity" and "black" on his side.🙄
5 likes@yeah right Look up incarceration rates based on gender and race. Women of ALL races get incarcerated WAY less than even white men.
10 likes@yeah right Lmao gender sentencing disparities and leniency have no racial correlation actually. In general women get off easier
4 likes@yeah right I know right, dudes wack
3 likes@rory k ok, miss rory k.
1 likeWell you heard it hear first, if you end up in court in America, just lie and don't stop lying
4 likes@yeah right Lol I can tell you are unable to think outside your own box. Peace out.
2 likes@rory k welcome to WOKE America
0 likes@calebmon no
2 likes@CVB 123 wow what a compelling argument 👏 👏 👏
0 likes@calebmon brurh women have no privilege😆nah I'm kidding but just because she got away with it doesn't mean her life is perfect you know,but she kinda bad tho
2 likesPlus the jury would have vote with emotions instead with the evidence which is fucked
0 likesExakt johannes, det är helt fuckat
0 likes@calebmon You need to check out how many men are not getting convicted for rape, harassment and murders (especially of their female partner - often despite similar proofs as in the case of Casey) instead of claiming 'female privilege' lmao.
7 likesWomen are also getting more years for killing their male partners than men get for killing their female partners. Women are more likely to be sentenced to jail for robbery and assault than men are. Why did you not say this?
Your claim has been disproven several times and I hope people actually look it up to know it's fake and a belief system misogynists use to further create hatred against women and to hold women to standards that not even men are held up to. Your comment is so full of hostile sexism lmao.
@CommonlyKnownAsAngi Look up the details of the crimes and why women are incarcerated way less: because often women have not acted with viciousness, torture and violence - which men are more likely to engage in- which results in more severe convictions.
6 likesAlso given how society works, these women usually have a background of having been abused either as a kid or in relevance to their crime. This theory has already been explained a few times already. Cases are treated differently and according to specific details. Do not do a mere comparison on numbers of incarceration of men vs women. For anyone to be able to do this mere comparison, the cases involved would have to be exactly the same.
You also need to check out how many men are not getting convincted for rape, harassment and murders (especially of their female partner - often despite similar proofs as in the case of Casey).
Also check out how women are more likely to be sentenced to jail for robbery and assault than men are. Why did you not say this?
@RewiredHuman most studies try to account for every variable including the past trauma, severity of the crime ect. (This is kinda the thing you do when you make a study DUH) and 99% of all of them find that women get less punishment for the same crimes across all types of crimes. This isn't disputed even in feminist circles. It is a basic fact that pretty much all data, even the data you provided suggests.
1 like@rory k A lotta irony packed into that short comment, yeeeeesh...
1 like@Professionally Correct You believe that because you can’t accept others
1 likeI don't get why she would do that like jeez get therapy before suffercsting a child - no no not any child her own child.
0 likesGood defendant.
0 likesWe built suspicion on it, but not caring for the death of her child is debatably a sin. Besides she may even be pretending not to care, which non of us may find out.
0 likes@Faux Imposter it was his defense team..freedom has a price
0 likes@rory k None of what you said had to do with my comment.
0 likesI agree. There is a good chance that she did it but this is the justice systeem, if there is no evidence........
1 like@Avercy she got special treatment for the simple fact she was an attractive white woman and that doesn't fit narrative for her to be a baby killer unless its abortion
2 likes@calebmon white woman tears
1 like@UCLaVd-16BrjY4g-K5QpBWEg You are not unintelligent. You understand that any woman, of color or otherwise, feeling less of value by any standard, other then their own cognitive efforts, is foolish.
0 likesIt's about who you are. Those who want to be a queen, fucking build your empire then, don't wait for handouts. You want to be "THE" Queen, you better strive harder then ANY other person on the planet.
Also. There are serial killer, and rapists in all colors, quit fucking playing, I'm not uneducated. Met a lot of people, poured through quite a few trials, and personal interviews with stone-cold killers.
I do this as a passion, reading people. I was also a foster child from the age of 3. Life is hard for everyone. You want hardship stories?
You ever fucking cleaned your loved one's blood off everything, hold their hand, tell them how much you need them, while they're dying?
Not even scratching the surface here. You and every other person spouting race.
EVERYONE I choose to surround my life with has love for ALL others who loving themselves, feel me?
WE make our own fucking ways. Stop playing like there isn't way to better your mind. People acting like you got problems the world didn't already have, before we were around. Saving, and solving NOTHING.
We the little people. Each of us only one individual, but together a whole. So let's be little, but strong.
Gather all the amazing people you can find, surround yourself. Take time to learn the liars first, if you're inexperienced. Point is. 100 good people in one spot is much less gullible to any bad people. So take care of your life, and shit will change.
@Avercy agreed & also just privilege.
3 likes@calebmon fuckin A
0 likes@Avercy she's innocent
0 likesMy mom watched this case when I was the same age as caylee. It killed my mom thinking a child just the same as I was at the time, was killed and then just left like nothing. I was actually born the same month as caylee too. It’s interesting
0 likesyoooo so this is such a toxic response, and i’m sure it’ll be viewed with some harshness. but if i ever see casey anthony, even as a man, i just don’t know that i won’t be able to punch her after watching this. is that just me?
0 likesLook at the faces of the jury, (1:06) can anyone see confidence in their face. Damm, confused people post as jury.
1 likeI wait for the divine sentence since the authorities' sentence has failed.
2 likesTHIS CASE MUST BE REOPENED FOR CAYLEE'S JUSTICE AT LEAST
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Sadly it can't be.
164 likesDouble Jeopardy 🎼🎷🎺🎸
143 likesNot how it works, once she's been found not guilty she can't be tried again for the same charges. Unless they discover something which could add new charges, which they won't, then this case is just settled bc of double jeopardy laws
254 likesShe may later end up in prison for a different reason. But it still angers me that she got away with killing her child.
131 likesShe’s even going to law school apparently
32 likes@ᗩᒪIYᗩᕼ : Indeed, any of us may later end up in prison for some reason. :)
7 likes@Musenge Musomali : Good for her then, to do something useful for a change. :)
1 like@Bryan Hann Really? With that kind of background? I wouldn’t use her as an attorney, she’s a liar and clearly participated in the disappearance and murder of her child.
87 likesNah. Justice is done. That's ur justice system at work people. Enjoy. Happens everyday
14 likes@flowpuppie84 Wow. The vast majority of the time justice is done. In this case, it wasnt. But I'm sure you're trying to make this into a racial thing.....
21 likes@Nathan Sledgister yep
1 like@Nathan Sledgister but a dead person can't be either.
1 like@Musenge Musomali I would, she already got off a murder charge she obviously did if that's not a good defense attorney idk what is
4 likes@Nathan Sledgister Your choice!!
0 likesIf you go to court have a jury trial and your found not guilty you cannot be tried a second time regardless of anything that has brought to light she's free she's trash but she had a good lawyer
0 likes@Musenge Musomali week gads
0 likes@Ruben Lopez jr yes it is.
1 like@Musenge Musomali minus the murdering of her child you just described a good defense attorney
2 likesNot in the US :/
0 likes@Jacob Hayes how was the previous commenter making it a racial thing by what was said?!?!?!
11 likesNathan Sledgister Her defense attorney is the one that got her off, that makes him the good one. She is just a pathological liar and not even that great...every meeting with the cops she was so nonchalant and upbeat it screamed ” I don’t give a shit what happened to my kid” not the kind of lawyer I would want for my defense.
2 likesPlease 🥺💔
0 likesDouble Jeopardy heyy
0 likes@Bryan Hann Didn't Kim go to law school? Or pretend to.
1 likeGood for her. Doing something useful for once
Unfortunately, in the United States, there’s an amendment in the bill of rights saying no double jeopardy, which means you can’t be retried for the same crime if you’ve already been ruled as guilty/not guilty. This isn’t the case in other countries, such as Italy. One example of double jeopardy in Italy was one case of a girl who was charged with murder. She had a trial, was ruled not guilty, then was brought back multiple times to be retried. She lived in the US, but was brought back several times to Italy to be retried.
0 likesAND WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT CASEYS TWIN BROTHER NASCAR DRIVER RACEY ANTHONY !!’
0 likesSomething simple does not add it up 🤔 🧐 🤨
@Dave J. What else she do Dave?
0 likes@Masser Phi what are you talkin about she's done enough
0 likesIt can't be I don't think
0 likes@Angela Wagner it's possible
0 likesJust like Oj Simpson he got his karma going to prison for 12 years
0 likesSadly it can't because of "Double Jeopardy"....unless they change the charges from murder to manslaughter or a different degree of murder I believe
1 like@Musenge Musomali
0 likesConsidering what a cold blooded sociopathic liar she is and how she got away with killing her own child, she will be a great lawyer.
It's over. Can't be reopened
0 likesShe can go on tv and tell everything’s she did, it is over, once you are found it not guilty, it is over.
0 likesI'm spend 1 hour watching this hope to see Justice but now I'm just pissed off
1 likeWtf those grandparents are just as guilty. Totally enabled that behavoir
2 likesShe stopped even trying to come up with names when she came out with Juliette Lewis. That was just blatant.
0 likesThis how I know karma ain’t real
1 likeHer parents really threw her a graduation party knowing she did not in fact graduate. There’s the problem, Casey was even taught by her parents how to lie, she was living in lies even when she was young
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and being rewarded for them.
104 likesDon’t get me wrong, terrible parents but lying has nothing to do with her killing her own child. That’s a sick and twisted thing to do that was on her. Her parents are the ones that taught her that if she kept lying she’d get away with it which indeed happened. Horrible situation
63 likesI don’t believe her killing the child was on the parents but her getting away with it 100% was
@Haydn leckie that wasn’t my point. My point was that she was taught how to lie ever since she was a young adult meaning it was a lot easier for her to lie about the killing of her own child. She thinks it’s okay to spread bullshit lies on media and is even writing a BOOK. That is sick.
63 likes@Camel Toe okay I get you, definitely do agree with you on that it makes me sick
6 likesI thought you were going another way with it
Exactly. My parents might lie about a particular thing for me to others, to help me save face…. But they’d never go to the utterly ridiculous extreme of further entertaining and actualising the lie.
20 likesEven just observing the manner in conversation with her parents on the prison visiting phones just before her trial… it is pathetic how superior she clearly is in that family dynamic, above all of them. And she makes it obvious just how much she looks down on them all.
They certainly were loving but terrible parents. They allowed their daughter to increasingly skirt responsibility and get away with so much….. it led to this ultimate point….. and her acquittal would only serve to add to her already immense deceiving-ability ego.
@Haydn leckie That's where the issue is. If her parents loved her, she wouldn't be featured on a video here. Parents who are dysfunctional can only give dysfunction to their children which only increases the likelihood that scenarios like this happen.
1 like@Elke S Loving and terrible parenting isn't synonymous.
1 like@Grey Crane not exactly. It could increase the likelihood but don’t you dare tell me that her parents saving face about her lies is equivalent to what she did. This is on her not the parents
2 likes@Haydn leckie Never said it was equivalent. I'm saying their actions, like lying to the extent of creating pseudo-graduation party, is a tell tale sign that they didn't love her. That is dysfunctional. It is on the parents for not loving her and therefore creating a dysfunctional child that in this case, chose to take her own child's life because she didn't want the responsibility of being a parent herself.
1 like@Grey Crane that’s a reach. They obviously loved her but in their own way but cared more about themselves, you can tell that. This isn’t a case about a dysfunctional person, it’s a lot more than just dysfunctional. No matter your up bringing you choose who you want to be and how you look at things. A lot of people including myself have grown up in abusive households where our parents don’t love us and we are not killers. It’s the person that chooses, not the parents.
6 likes@Haydn leckie There's only one way of loving and that doesn't involve lying to appear better than you are, that's narcissistic. This is about dysfunction. I've also grown up in an abusive household but I know that one doesn't just become normal because you say you are. People from abusive households attain personality disorders if they never had a positive and functional person in their life to receive love and bond with. Just because you are dysfunctional doesn't mean it's certain that you will be a killer.
2 likes@Grey Crane Yes you could argue that we aren’t “normal” but you were claiming that she killed her child because her parents made her dysfunctional and now you say that that’s not necessarily the case. Since that was the basis of your argument then we are both must be killers aswell.
3 likesI’ll stick to the facts, her parents may be terrible people but this was all her fault and the path she chose.
@Haydn leckie Where did I say her parents not loving her wasn't linked with her ability to consider and carry out murder? Yeah, she did make the decision to kill but saying that her parents had nothing to do with that factor is incorrect.
0 likes@Grey Crane you said if her parents loved her she wouldn’t the featured on this video but I wasn’t loved and I’m not featuring so you can’t just blame her parents. It isn’t in correct, it could factor into it yet it might not. You or I don’t actually know. Maybe she’s wanted to do something like this from the day she was born? You wouldn’t know that.
0 likes@Grey Crane you stated at the start saying she’s featured because of her parents. You also stated that her parents taught her to be dysfunctional, so you tell me you were saying something different? See that’s the thing you THINK you know it all. What you think is just what you think, you do not know her or what goes on in her head. You’re speculating.
2 likes@Haydn leckie I'm literally not saying anything different, that's basically what I am saying. Her parents dysfunction was a relevant factor in the child's murder. Why are you trying to downplay my opinion just because its mine? I am confident in saying that I know what would likely be going on with her psychologically so yes, of course I am speculating, just like how every investigator speculates what happens when a suspect is evidently lying. I also would appreciate this dialogue to continue more precisely, I never claimed or implied to: "know it all", whatever that means.
0 likes@Grey Crane and I’m confident that it had nothing to do with her parents or her up bringing. We have a differing opinion and I don’t mind about that. What I do mind is you saying I’m incorrect.
0 likes@Haydn leckie In order for you to have a different opinion to me you have to believe I am incorrect and you are correct so tell me why you mind?
0 likes@Grey Crane yes obviously but you can choose to keep it to yourself because if we both believe different things what’s your point in trying to argue about it. If you wanted a discussion you’d be open to differing opinions, not only caring about why you’re “right”
0 likes@Haydn leckie My point is to tell you why your opinion is incorrect because I do not believe it to be the truth. That's called a debate which you decided to partake in. I heard your opinion and disagree with it and have told you why. That doesn't mean I'm not open-minded. I care about the truth and right now am convinced that it is me who is telling it.
0 likes@Grey Crane I have an opinion, you have yours. How about you leave it at that?
0 likes@Haydn leckie You decided to comment your opinion about the matter in a comment section. If you didn't want to hear an opposing opinion and discuss the reasoning for your own said opinion, then I fail to see why you bothered to share it at all. You haven't once claimed why you believe in your view or given any reason for me to believe in it. That, to me shows that you didn't want to hear what another view was since your making quite nonsensical replies. You're also free to stop contributing in this discussion, rather than telling me that I should stop. You have to realise, you've mentioned that you've come from an abusive household, which is tragic. But that doesn't suddenly mean that you aren't dysfunctional yourself because of your awareness. You have shown that you would rather keep your opinion, without any sort of dispute as to why, rather than convince me why it is the truth in our discussion. Your aversion to continuing this discussion and wanting to conclude it with us having differing opinions, shows that you aren't interested in the truth and are more likely trying to avoid admitting that your are wrong or trying to support an opinion of which you actually do not believe in, and merely hold as a way to garner positive affirmation from others or putting others down, whom may possess less socially 'correct' opinions, to keep your false self delusion from dissolving.
0 likesThey actually didn’t know, she wasn’t open with her parents and would never tell them anything, her parents called the school asking when/where the graduation is gonna be and her school told them she wasn’t actually graduating and they thought she was.
1 like@10 Chicken McNuggets 14:19 . They knew, JCS explains it
1 like@Haydn leckie I do believe her lack of empathy and caring for her child came from her parents who clearly excused everything and made it OK for her to care basically ONLY for herself. She was never held accountable or taught that other things and people were as important or even more important than she was. And I believe she never learned to tolerate frustration and denial of what she wanted, possibly leading to taking out anger on her child or feeling justified in neglecting and/or endangering her. So, yeah, they contributed, in my opinion.
1 likeYes actually phycopaths tend to do what they are taught by either a television or their parents or something like that they usually study people and what behaviors are best so they relied upon lying or manipulative behavior or mind games
0 likesThat wasn't done for her though, that was for their own image for them though.
1 like@Camel Toe she wrote a book?!?What’s it called? How to get away with murder?!?
1 like@Grey Crane sure it is. Innocently loving but foolishly rearing
0 likes@Elke S You can't love someone and do a poor job of caring for them.
0 likesher brother testified to lie after lie from both his parents, but mainly his mother. She was brought up and taught to lie.
2 likesit was horrible hot the day the little one died. Casey is preoccupied with getting in and out of the house before her mom gets home. She forgets and leaves the sleeping girl in the car... remembers her too late. gets her out and tries to cool her off in the pool, which as a nurse, would have put the child into shock and kill her.
she buried her child like she saw her Dad bury the loved family pets. It was an accident and she didn't want to go through the hassle of dealing with it.
@Grey Crane I was referring to her parents.
0 likes@Sunny I don’t know if I believe that. If it were truly a horrific careless accident caused by an irresponsible, self centered parent, why did her online search results include “how to make chloroform”, “foolproof suffocation” and “neck breaking”?
1 like@Elke S What's your point? Her parents cannot have loved her if this is what she was capable of.
0 likes@Grey Crane are you not a parent? I know for a fact her parents still love her even now, despite both of them believing she’s somehow involved in the death of their granddaughter.
0 likesAll my original point was that despite it being clear how much her parents loved her (which further condemns what she did, as she doesn’t have the excuse of having had a traumatic childhood), they clearly raised her poorly.
@Elke S I'm not a parent. Her parents didn't love her. People who decide to kill their child of their own volition are not people who come from loving families. I'd love to know your answer as to why Casey did what she did if you think her parents loved her even though she still thought murdering a child was the best way to handle this scenario.
0 likes@Grey Crane because people arent automatically perfect parents. Some just don’t learn how and remain useless at healthily and positively raising a child.
0 likesShe just wanted to get her groove on
0 likes@Elke S , I have no idea, I also have no idea who looked that up, or when.
0 likes@keller70 kn
0 likes@Grey Crane "There's only one way of loving" This is a totally ludicrous statement, do you really believe this?
0 likes@mrbouncelol I do. Tell me, how is it ludicrous?
0 likesYes she and her parents might be narcissists . Similar in the way Lori Laughlin went through all the trouble to get her child into USC. Lori et al… didn’t care about their children more so how they might be perceived if their child didn’t go to College or graduate from high school.
1 like@Sunny through internet tracing and circumstantial investigation, they devised it had to have been her.
1 likeThis was also my thought
0 likesShe killed that girl. Justice not served.
2 likesI don't like how the narrator is not a real live narrator. It's amazing how real it sounds but I can tell that it is a acutally a recording reading out text. Notice how everything is sort of monotone and the pauses in between sentances are all short and the same length?
1 likeThat's why i hate this society and laws and "justice system"
0 likesThis is how to get away with murder
0 likesI was proud of the dispatcher for at least asking “why are you calling NOW?! Why didn’t you call 31 days ago?!”
861 likesI feel like a lot of people might have let that slide
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The car smelled like a rotting dead body.
24 likesNobody was going to let that slide, as soon as she said that I said wtf.
17 likesShe was looking at alternative ways to find her daughter... give her a break jeesh. It's called outsourcing.
11 likesExactly!
2 likesYOU TOOK CARE OF HER EVERYDAY RIGHT?
THEN REALIZED SHE WAS GONE!!!
In fact, the entire investigating team let that slide....
6 likeserin lewis Yes Indeed! Casey dropping out off school for an entire year and still giving her a graduation party !
4 likesalmost no one would let it slide. thats why the excuse was terrible
1 likeI think she just wanted to party for a month, with no responsibility or hassle, and then when all that had worn off, reality sunk in, she had to report her daughter missing! Then the Webb of lies started, something she has been doing her whole life! With the help of the parents, of course!
1 like@combivan yeah that sounds about right.
0 likesYou don’t have to be a fucking genius or detective to know she’s a murderer. This will haunt her and on a day later in live she will admit to what she has done , you can fool the whole world and yourself but you cannot fool God, it is He who will whisper in her ear while she’s sleeping, come on girl it’s time to tell the truth and walk this way all the way to the light.
0 likesOh MY GOODNESS, DID SHE JUST GET GET AWAY WITH MURDER😮😢!!!?…
1 likeSpooky how much her tone sounds like Amber Heard's testimony
1 likeHow was she found not guilty? How?
0 likescan you imagine being casey's father - still grappling not only with the death of your granddaughter but also with the knowledge that your own child would kill her daughter - and then being blatantly accused of pedophilia and incest in front of an entire courtroom
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So it wasn’t real that her father abused of Her as a young age ?
20 likes@KayKay Lit no it was made up by casey and her lawyers
335 likes@Cossu HD yeap, the father was the most lenient and complacent father I've ever seen. Helping his daughter cover up the murder of his granddaughter.
78 likes@Cossu HD hmm
2 likes@Tt Ee Pardon? I’m not sure I understand what you mean. What’s your thought on the accusation?
5 likes@Maury Jack Reno HOW ARE YOU SO CALM ABOUT THE WAY THEY PHRASED IT? so civil of you to try and introspect especially when one is acting that unreasonable! i felt like flipping out on them but seeing your comment so nicely worded and polite gave me the signal to act with reason. god bless you, my G
6 likes@sup Thank you for the kind words, honestly I’m a little bit in shock over this . . . . case, if you could call this circus something so kind. I may be too numb for anger right now to be honest, which is a new sensation. And I really am genuinely curious. Could there be something they’ve seen that I haven’t? Something they picked up on? Why are they adamant about it? I’d like to know exactly what their thought is on the accusation before I make any kind of judgement, because it could be that they have a perfectly reasonable opinion, just poor phrasing skills. Is this woman actually that convincing to people even in a video that exposes the negative side? I’m not sure. Hopefully they’ll let me know how to feel about their comment soon
8 likes@Maury Jack Reno I didn't make the comment to you, and don't understand why did you get so angry about it? I mean, I just thought the father wasn't completely innocent to deserve to be emphasized. I thought he was okay with being a part of the lawyers plan because we see he and her mother were okay with their daughters past lies and tried to hide them. Then I read about his suicide trial and knew he tried to defence himself and guessed they were probably always manipulated from their daughter. Still think they are part of the reason of this narcissistic woman though. But now I know and that's about it.
3 likes@Tt Ee Hey man in not angry, I was just curious. Glad you told me your side, because I don't think you're wrong I was just confused with the phrasing. And it didn't seem like anyone was going to ask for your side/what your opinion was. I certainly believe her parents are a solid percent of the reason she is the way she is, that they let themselves be manipulatived from the start and they shouldn't have been surprised when she stooped so low. Definitely not an accusation that they should have made against her father, but she is definitely not what they should have raised. I'm not angry at all, I was just legitimately curious to see if you'd noticed something the rest of us hadn't.
5 likes@Maury Jack Reno it's just a YouTube comment, not that serious tbh
2 likes💯💯💯
0 likesHe was no saint. Only a narcissist would lie about their kid doing well in college when they flunked out. And where do you think she got her sociopathy? It's genetic.
17 likes@Michael Ptasnik doesn't mean she got that from him.
6 likes@neko no way. how do you know
0 likes@KayKay Lit This person led detectives around Universal Studios for 25 minutes, and had to reach the dead end of a hallway before finally admitting "heheh, I don't work here." No, none of the things she said is real.
15 likes@Mr Nobody I mean, he adamantly denied the accusations... Are you really going believe her over him? Were you on this jury because it seems you were fooled by her nonsense too?
6 likes@Mr Nobody So, how the law (should) work, is that when you make a claim like that, the burden of proof lays upon the accuser. There was absolutely no evidence of that horrible claim, and the father was never convicted or held or anything. I think you are ASSUMING what she is saying could be true, despite burden of proof and her history of lying about literally everything
9 likes@Puffy147x Oh okay, we didn't see him vehemently deny it in the video (I even found it weird they didn't talk about this). And no haha, I'm not even an American citizen. I live in Europe, I wasn't even aware of this case until now, but seeing this video made me lose faith in American justice system haha. Her story was indeed complete nonsense. This was the only part that I feel could have been genuine... but wouldn't be an excuse for how she acted anyway, so I wouldn't have changed the punishment.
2 likes@Ham Sandwich Yes, exactly. I'm basically showing assuming either way is stupid. As for her killing the baby, I think there is no assumption on this point... but I fail to see how a jury can have decided that she is innocent!?
4 likes@Mr Nobody I absolutely agree. We allow far too many loopholes to protect those who are clearly guilty, and make it more difficult to prove your innocence in some cases. Not like I have a better solution though
1 like@Maya ?
0 likes@Asurah Suzä ? Didn't finish the video?
0 likes@Maya I did. I also learned that the father wrote a letter of reconciliation to his daughter. Telling her he wants to forgive her. For how ...?
0 likesThey created her. They allowed Casey with laying all the time and not giving her any sense of responsibility. They probably feel guilty.
0 likes@Janet Spell it's really unethical but that's easily countered by the argument that it's their job to serve as strong lawyers for their clients, no matter how inhumane. Comes to show just how much justice and equality are two entirely different things.
0 likesI'm pretty sure he did and is a pervert. Picked that up right away when you saw then interact. You can tell the girl is lying and calculated but so are the grandparents being over the top over acting. The "hey gorgeous" from the dad.... it all makes sense.
0 likes@Michael Ptasnik I thing they were embarrassed. Imagine your daughter telling the whole word that she is doing good in school and how her day was and all that, just to find out she made the whole thing up? I couldn't imagine having to explain that to people. How do you tell people your daughter is a liar and to the extent that she fooled all of them..
0 likes@Cossu HD Just shows how terrible of a person casey is that she went so far to save herself. Even after casey's father knowing that most probably casey was the one who killed her daughter he loved her till the last minute and what he got was an accusation of pedophilia and incest. Wtf did I just watched, I am so pissed
0 likes@Cossu HD SAAAAME MY JAW DROPED TOO!! But maybe the naïve father even agreed to that in the hopes of helping his "innocent" daughter
0 likesLawyer: “We want you to go off of the evidence alone.” Also lawyer: “We speculate that her dad touched her as a kid so please don’t be too harsh”
2 likesAnything for the not guilty verdict I guess
1 like@Tt Ee her father wasn't a part of her defense, he not only testified against her with respect to the smell in the car but categorically denied all of the claims of abuse outright. Her parents received special permission to be in the courtroom which is why focus was on them. As witnesses they technically shouldn't have been allowed in to the court but as the defendant was their daughter they were granted permission on the basis that they couldn't show any kind of emotion whatsoever, both in support of Casey or against her. They were told that if they did they'd be removed and/or held in contempt of court so they had no choice. Ironically, the were absolutely crucified in the press for exactly that, people calling them cold and sociopathic etc.
0 likesPersonally, I think her dad knew from day 1 she'd killed Caylee. As soon as he recognised the smell of putrefaction he knew it was her. I think that once you understand that your daughter is capable of murdering her own child and covering it up for a month before lying constantly to everyone, making up a nanny (some people think this was the biggest clue, "Zani" the nanny, a euphemism for Casey doping Caylee up with Xanax (used to be known as Xani's) to knock her out while she went out on the piss with her "aspiring DJ" boyfriend), and a coworker who introduced said nanny (who is in fact childless) - once you understand they are capable of all that and more then her spewing some incestuous abuse BS to try (and in this case succeed as it happens) to get away with murdering your 3 year old kid, is probably not even surprising at that point. Poor bloke.
@Mr Nobody she isn't a psychopath, she is what used to be called a sociopath (now known as Antisocial Personality Disorder) and that is the "reason" for her behaviour. The only emotion she feels is for herself, her wants and needs and what she believes should be happening to/for her. This is different from psychopathy where they aren't capable of any emotion at all, even for themselves.
3 likes@Littlewings85 Isn't sociopathy another name for psychopathy ? That's what I've always read... that those two words designate the same thing. First time I read about psychopathy being no emotion at all - never read that before.
1 likeThe bare betrayal he had to have felt would have been heart breaking. Or that he couldn’t show emotions in court and then be continually accused by the media is so sad.
0 likes@Mr Nobody people often use them interchangeably but they are actually different, although they have some similarities and parts are the same for both. It is generally thought that a psychopath does not feel emotion as "normal" people do, particularly when it comes to things like empathy and impulse control. Sociopathic tendencies tend to be not so much a lack of empathy but the inability to care or relate to other people and their emotions and needs. Their sole focus is their own needs and wants and they will lie, cheat, steal, bribe, threaten, harm, bluff and do whatever it takes, to absolutely anyone if it will get them what they want.
0 likesApologies this reply took ages, I started the Chris Watts video not realising it is a 3 parter and totally forgot I was halfway through a response lol! My bad, I'm sorry!
@Littlewings85 Oh okay, today I learned something new, then :)
1 likeSo now I know what my ex-best-friend (who happened to rape at least one girl and behave horribly with multiple others) was. He wasn't a psychopath cause it didn't fit the descriptions... but probably a sociopath, then.
No need to apologize, your answer was actually quite fast for Youtube.
@Cyrus Lever so a dad thinking his daughter is beautiful means he has been abusing her for decades?
0 likesThe reason he was weird with her at the prison is because he is a retired cop - he knew what that smell was the second he opened the car door and knew exactly what it meant. Then they find her and she's chilling out with her boyfriend watching a movie and getting high while her daughter is supposedly kidnapped, she hasn't called the police or even told anyone Caylee is missing and has been making excuses as to why Caylee can't come to the phone or see the grandparents for A MONTH?!? He knows without a shadow of a doubt that she killed that little girl. His first question on their first prison visit was something along the lines of "is there something you want to tell us?"
It wouldn't surprise me if he spoke to her at some point and said "I know you killed her, you need to come clean and stop all this crap about the non-existent nanny and let us bury our grandkid or I will have to tell the cops for you." A police officer makes a very good witness to have, and to cap it all the cop is her own father! That is seriously damning testimony...unless there's a way to discredit his character or throw doubt on his claims in front of a jury........like, say a courtroom revelation of sexual abuse of the poor defendent as a child. Especially if it can be done with a bomb drop that is disgusting and shocking like a comment about how poor little Casey learned to lie and hide her pain at 8 years old while she had "her father's penis in her mouth". Please! I rolled my eyes so hard they nearly fell out of my skull. She and her lawyer (who she was having sex with btw - at least after the trial when she couldn't afford to pay him in cash - but possibly earlier than that) knew that her not reporting Caylee missing for 31 days, while dodging requests, hiding from and flat out lying to anyone who asked about her daughter, then when she had no choice but to contact police just lying over and over about absolutely every little detail, yeah, they know all of that looks super suspicious (because quite frankly, it was!) so they need a pity card. One that also throws question on her father's testimony for the prosecution would be best so they cook up this BS story about him sexually abusing her from a young age and Caylee dying in the pool when she left her vulnerable 3yr old daughter with the person that only she knows was sexually abusing her as a child... Come on! Who leaves their baby with their rapist??!!? The last thing a victim/survivor (whichever their preferred term) wants is for their abuser to do what they did to someone else because they then add more guilt on themselves because they think they should have come forward and stopped it happening again - the idea that it could happen to your own baby girl? That she would suffer the abuse that you did when it is literally your job to protect her from as much harm, pain and suffering as you possibly can until your last breath and you just hand her over to him? No. Not a chance. Nope. That story is clearly BS made to make her look like a victim of her childhood and to throw doubt on her father's character before he testifies that he smelled putrefaction in the car he lent Casey when he got a call because she abandoned it, and that the reason he knew what the smell was with absolute certainty was because of his first hand experience, of what is said to be an unmistakable odour once you have smelled it once, as a police officer for years.
@Mr Nobody tbh you can actually be a rapist without being a psychopath or sociopath, and there are different types of rapists.
0 likesI'm no expert, I just find criminal psychology fascinating and have probably watched too many true crime documentaries, criminal psychology lectures online, researched into websites/studies and read too many books on different types of criminal personalities than is possibly healthy for a person 🤣
I guess I just want to understand the impossible to understand. I don't understand how these killers and other offenders can do some of the things that they do, how they justify it (if they do justify it), how they went from giggling babies in their pushchair when someone makes a funny face at them to "I wonder what that dude's right buttock would taste like if I roast it?"
That may say more about me than it does the killers I love reading about 🤣
@Cyrus Lever what? What have statistics on violent cops and womanising firefighters got to do with anything?
0 likesFrom what I remember from the documentary on this from either Netflix or Hulu, I’m pretty sure the parents got divorced after this case too because the Mom believed Casey or some shat.
0 likes@No Name Bailey Sarian did an episode on this case and she said that the mum was very "ride or die" for Casey. Tbh I think she knew that she killed Caylee but there are some people who believe that no matter what you support and stand by your family, above and beyond all else. I think her mother was someone like that. Or possibly she convinced herself that if she doesn't admit to her suspicions then they're not true, which I guess came a lot easier after she was found not guilty. Her dad was a cop so he was definitely more level-headed and realistic about stuff, even stuff as nightmarish as their daughter getting away with murdering her child.
0 likes@Hello Neighbour I actually did believe it but also it doesn’t matter what the father supposedly did , she is the one who needed to take all the blame because of what she did to her daughter she needed to be sentenced dead
0 likes@KayKay Lit Of course not. She lied about pretty well everything. So there is no doubt in my mind that this is just another one.
0 likesIt's very easy to lie about historic abuse. Especially when you have no scruples at all.
I don't like calling people "psychopaths" it kind of gives some people the opinion it's not their fault.
0 likesShe is just evil.
This is a prime example of how much of a scumbag a lawyer can be. 🤷♂️
0 likes@Vic Hess Because they were willing to empower her bad behavior to avoid being embarrassed themselves.
0 likesThis reminds me a bit of Amanda Knox same creepy looks and both ended up getting away with it.
0 likesshe wasn't even a good liar, everyone was just stupid and blind
2 likesDid the police or the prosecution drop the ball? How did she get off?
0 likesLol at Judge Perry's face during the defense's closing arguments. He seems not to like what he is hearing.
0 likesHer saying “calling you guys is a waste” after her friend breaks down crying in concern for her daughter? Holy shiiiiiit
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That upset me too. Her whole tone on call was just straight up horrible and narcissistic.
104 likesThat was some next level shit
40 likesyooo someone give me her address tryna test out my new Glock
28 likesThe devil is real and it’s name is Casey Anthony
18 likes@Hugo Gutierrez agree. So heartless. The child would've been 15 this year
12 likes@Veronica Weiss That is where I came to comments to see if anyone noticed that. Heart breaking.
5 likes@Veronica Weiss "I've been eating Bologna!"
8 likes@Carin Monier 23:30 she also said to her mother earlier, around 20 min
0 likesDude she faked the tears when her mom asked to look her in the eye, and she never looks her in the eye
0 likesGuilty Guilty Guilty! No Justice in this world! She is despicable!
0 likesLiar I caught it early on first she said nice decent house then said when to pick up Caylee knocked on apartment door
0 likesThe justice system is a joke for this.
0 likesThe annoyance Casey experienced while her best friend was talking about Caylee is horrifying.
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@Sara Miller hey are you casey. Please explain why you think she's innocent and why she'd spin this web of lies about her daughters disappearance.
11 likesIt’s almost if she had done something to her 🤔
0 likes@Goblin barrel • 25 years ago who said they were casey?
0 likesyeah forreal
0 likesOh judge milk dud in the back looking like a piece of melted chocolate 1:02:30... I feel like anybody that's overweight it doesn't take care of their health should not be in a position of power I don't want no fatty sending me the prison. Or telling me how I should live my life when he can't lay off the freaking donuts geeze lol
2 likesHowever, if she was so disturbed, you've got to wonder how she was able to manage getting off...
0 likesNot guilty? How do you prove that she's not guilty? If she wasn't guilty then why all the lies? Why was she talking to the officers as thought nothing had happened? You'd do that only if you're hiding something. I feel they're hiding the truth by mentioning all the bad experiences Casey went through in her childhood. That really does not solve the case.
0 likesHer friend cared more about that lil girl than her own f'n mom!!!!
0 likes😭💔🖕
The fact that she called her family and best friend a “waste” to talk to as her best friend is showing more sympathy and love towards the daughter than Casey ever could..it disgusts me. “If anything happens to that baby I’ll die Casey do you understand me?”
1567 likes“You guys are a waste” like fuck you. She at least cares. If you’re gonna play the “I’m not guilty” bullshit at least pretend to care. I wanna fight this woman, the anger I have while listening to these calls is worrying lol
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I hated that too. She comes off as so smug, and like she was frustrated because some people actually chose to care about the wellbeing of her daughter. To me, it seems obvious she was only so upset with them because she figured she was already done with the murder and everything, until her mom called 911 and people got involved.
58 likesIts so sad she got away with this.
i was looking for this comment. the way her best friend is sobbing about losing not even her own daughter and casey is clearly disgusted by it. insane.
25 likesHahahaha, I totally agree... I'm on your side, lets go fight: 1v2
2 likesI felt like that every since the trial. Especially when she walked.
1 likeListening to her friend say I’ll die if anything happens to her was the hardest part for me to listen to. She clearly had good people around her, her parents seem genuine and nice tho clearly enabling , her friend also. The fact that she is annoyed at their concern for her daughters well being it just makes me sick. Rip
9 likesYeah why they not analyze the recordings in the court man? :-|
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw Im pretty sure god would forgive you for just looking at another woman lol..I’d like to think so anyways. especially if you didn’t act on any thoughts. Intrusive thoughts happen. Doesn’t mean we should go to hell or be punished for them. And this has nothing to do with religion, bringing religion into a tragedy like this can be really hurtful for the people involved so be respectful and pls don’t spam this kind of stuff and push religions onto others online, thanks.
0 likes@You done goofed ok not cool my dude, Just report and be on your way if it bothers you, Or have a discussion but no need to be rude like that!! I agree that kind of shit shouldn’t be under videos like this and it annoys me a lot that they exist at all but gotta admit that was a little uncalled for haha
0 likes@Lillian Rose Calling someone who acts like a lunatic a "lunatic" is rude?
0 likes@You done goofed trying to spam comments to spread the word of your religion doesn’t make you a lunatic. Tone deaf and desperate? Maybe lol. But you don’t know that person by a comment, and you can’t go around telling people “take your meds”. Shits offensive and just plain rude. Those comments are part of the internet just ignore it or report it.
0 likesReality is much more disturbing than any movie ever could be
0 likesBro, Casey's lawyer is THE ACTOR!!
0 likesThis is the most disturbing thing I've ever watched.
0 likesShe’s guilty as hell.
0 likesEven Christina (her friend) was reacting to Caylee’s absence WAY more like a mother should, than Casey is. It’s SO OBVIOUS. Casey murdered that baby and got away with it 😭
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When I heard Christina ask her about Caylee’s wellbeing I got so saddd she cares for her so much:(
24 likesYeah and she just can't be bothered. Only concerned with calling her bf.
6 likesShe's so sick
And to this day still does not care about her child, just relieved she is gone just like Chris Watts when he killed his family. He just felt relieved. She probably still smiles at the thought of getting away with it when she thinks of it. I think the only feeling she had for Caylee was Jealousy!!!
4 likesIt’s absurd, if she didn’t want the baby she could’ve of just given it too her parents. casey’s mum also said caseys car smelt like a dead body was in the trunk in the 911 call. The fact that she’s still out there is so inconvenient
0 likes@•Pastel Wonder• im sorry but i cant get over the "could've of" lmfao
0 likesI agree with you 110%
0 likesWhat a disaster of detectives. Was it their first day on the job? Jeez.
0 likeswait a minute, this monster is actually out of jail?
0 likesThe defense attorney has a "tell". It's the way he ties his tie.
0 likesShe fuckin killed that kid, there’s no doubt in my mind
2 likesRandom people get falsely accused and imprisoned but let people like this girl get away with murdering a child wtf
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i really wish that wasnt true
19 likesI was just saying this
5 likesThis is why a good defence lawyers are paid alot. Not a perfect crime, but good enough to get awayvwith murder.
36 likesYou can blame their 'Baez' lawyers too.
4 likesBecause she is a “pretty” white girl, how could she be a killer (even though all the evidence points to it). While people of colour and some white men get falsely convicted or vilified due in the media on little evidence or lies.
16 likes@katherine lambert but she isn't pretty though.. in fact, she looks horrible so I don't think what you're saying makes any sense.
9 likes@Abel baby drug dealers are people who take advantage of addicts. (when i say dug dealers im talking about hard drugs like speed meth and cocaine)(not weed)
4 likesRight?!?
0 likesShe’s guilty just as OJ . They both need citizens justice.
4 likes@Project Konstantine That doesn't make any sense. What you said is so backwards.
0 likes@finjibuns You are coping. After she ended her child she wrote "Im the happiest ever" and now she even legally got away with it. She pobably left the state and is enjoying the help of women's support programs.
1 like@Stan Onda what do you mean
0 likes@Fluffy Bunny Casey was not wealthy, she couldn’t afforded to pay for lawyer. So they worked out a an “ arrangement”.
2 likesIf your looking for another argument, I’ve got three for you ( if they meet your approval):
1. Playing the victim card.
Claiming that she an abuse victim. Saying her father had been sexual, physical and verbally abusing until adulthood. (Which was a lie)
2. Claiming her father had drugged and murdered his granddaughter. (Another lie)
3. Also playing on the belief that mothers can't possibly harm or murder their children.
With this race does playa factor as white mothers are looked on favourably than mothers who are Latina, Asian or Black.
White mothers are stereotyped as being more loving, gentle, actual care about their children and less willing to physically harm their children as punishment, compared to mothers of colour.
It's more ok for white women to be single mothers.
4.constantly changing her story when on the stand.
@katherine lambert where did I say that she walked free because she is wealthy? I said she didn't just because she is white, like you implied
0 likesShe has one of those 'Feel sorry for me' type faces. That's the best guess I have.
0 likes@Daniel Fahim Islam exactly. She’s a professional liar although she gets caught that’s not important. The Jury isn’t a behavior analyst they didn’t have this level of analysis. They went off it’s a mom with a dead kid who’s been through a lot
0 likesThey let people like this get away nd expect them to understand that their actions are wrong ...? I'm confused, how is this possible.
2 likesWow. Internet experts going all out here.
0 likes@J Härkönen true
0 likesIt's not how the justice system works. She had a good lawyer, and there were some holes in the story. Therefore, you can't overrule the Law. It was justified.
0 likesIkr!
0 likes@PirateReviewer x to doubt
0 likes@Project Konstantine Don't hate the player, hate the game.
0 likesi mean the idea behind the whole justice system is that its better to let 100 guilty people go free, if it means one innocent person dosent get condemned. which, this case especially makes me question that kind of thinking. but on the other hand, i totally get the prior statement.
0 likesIve never been more disappointed by the justice system. She even stated to her parents that she KNEW caylee was still close.. The only thing "admirable" about this case was Cassey's defense team and their ability to manipulate a jury and enable a cold hearted liar the chance to live without consequence; and i sure as hell wouldnt want to be remembered for this. I hope they lose sleep over this. If theres an afterlife, i hope they know that poor child witnessed the protection of the horrid bitch that took her life away.
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0 likesBiggest miscarriage of justice ever. That jury should all be punished for being so dumb.
1 likeBeside the verdict which is obviously simply ridicoulus, I always wondered how much of your humanity you're willing to sacrifice to be able to manipulate the jury as a lawyer that way. The attorney disgusted me and the people I've shown this video to, it's just beyond my comprehension how can somoeone decide to defend a "mother" like that for money. Can't believe they let an innocent child murdered like that and let her get away with it. What a joke.
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Better Call Saul! First of all. It's money for them. Second of all. They see it as not their family.
1 like@Chris Cisneros I do like BCS, although I like to see it also as an hyperbolic exaggeration, but cases like these remind me how money makes the ethics. There are also occasions in which the attorney declines to follow a specific case as he doesn't want his morality to be compromised. Sadly this is not the case.
0 likes"Why did you not call us 31 days ago?"
0 likes"Because I've been stuck in the middle of a gang of men shouting ASS TO ASSSS"
What I don't get is:
1358 likesThere was such an easy way out for her. I strongly believe if she told her parents she doesn't want the responsibility they would have raised their grandchild and loved it!
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Exactly! I've thought the same!
69 likesMy exact thoughts especially since I was adopted by my grandparents
70 likesThe plan was to give the baby for adoption , the grandparents made her keep Cayley
21 likes@Gabriel Fagundes wtf
41 likesYou think they were fit to raise the kid any more than she was? Caylee being raised by those people probably would have grown up just to become another casey anthony and kill her daughter.
19 likesIt's a horrible thought but it's the truth. I can only wish that caylee had been born into a different family.
She was jealous of the attention her mother gave Caylee, too self absorbed to care how her daughter was.
15 likes@David McKee yes I think they were fit to raise a child into adulthood without killing it.
28 likes@Ruheschrei They raised casey and she killed her child. They messed up by letting her get away with so much. So they aren't completely off the hook in my opinion.
9 likesPut yourself into the mindset of a sociopath and compulsive liar. The one thing you absolutely cannot do is admit weakness. That would be leaving a vulnerability that people could exploit to gain an advantage over you. Admitting she can't raise her child is an admission of weakness.
14 likesNo, Casey strikes me as the type of person who can't turn to anybody. Even if help is offered willingly, the only thing she can do is lie to avoid seeming like she needs to help.
@Gabriel Fagundes isnt that the "super straight flag" 😶
2 likes#Basics Well said my friend. Currently I know three couples that are trying to adopt, and it hasn't been easy at all for whatever reason. I don't know specifics. But all of them would have taken lil' Caylee with open hearts.
1 likeI see it differently though, if them grandparents raise the child they will create another *Casey*...
1 like@Rex IOUS OK, I can understand why you think like this.
6 likesIn my experience all children are different, even if twins.
I don't know what would have happened, but I still stay with my thought that the grandparents raising her would have been better than being killed.
Just so sad if such young children have to suffer 😞
@Gabriel Fagundes LMAOO BIGOTRY, just say you’re homophobic and leave plz 😭✋ “superphobe” im DEAD says the one who doesnt think of trans women as women. Yknow according to your logic youd like a trans man because he was born with female genitals 🥺
4 likes@Gabriel Fagundes Literally only conservative 12 year olds on tik tok and weird transphobic 40 year olds with the mindsets of 5 year olds say theyre superstraight so 😬
5 likes@Amy Soucy not when the child is like 4 tho lmao, she apparently wanted the baby when she was growing it
0 likes@David McKee at least they won’t kill the kid lmao
0 likes@Niklas good assessment
0 likesShe could’ve sent her for adoption. I honestly don’t understand why she’d do that.
1 likeMe : ikr.. basic common sense..
1 likeCasey : pfffft.. lame..
Seems like nowadays we need a word for every absurdity out there?.. well happy for u super straight people that u can identify urself again....and here i was thinking u guys just needed some sort of compensation..silly me
0 likes@AFGuidesHD So glad someone said it. The comment is completely heartless...
2 likesexactly what i thought
0 likesI mean yeah, But also I think it was spite. Casey started cutting out the grandparents when Cindy told Casey she wanted custody of Caylee after Casey Robbed her, her grandmother and her friend amber. Casey was jealous that they were taking care of her daughter and tried to do it herself and when she couldn't....well here we are. It probably didn't help that her current boyfriend tony seemed like he wasn't into being a father figure to Caylee either.
2 likesI thought that at first too. But I think if she truly didn’t want the child, seeing her in general would set her off. So she probably wanted to get rid of her indefinitely.
2 likes@Bradley Rose its like a spectrum
0 likes@Amy Soucy Nah, abortion is just as bad as murder.
3 likes@PrettiiPisces _ no, it isn't.
1 like@Axodus 😂 tell another joke that one was good
2 likesDude a stranger could come to my door and say "I will smother my child I need you to take her in" and Id fking do it. There's someone like that in every neighborhood ZERO excuse.
1 likeShe was conditioned from a young age to believe that she doesn’t have to take responsibility and confront her problems. She can just do the worst possible thing out of sheer laziness, then lie about it and everything would be ok. She didn’t want a daughter, she wanted to smoke weed and do nothing. Almost subconsciously she did the worst possible thing, got rid of her daughter and lied about it. I don’t think she believed she would get away with it as things escalated, I just think she had no other clue how else to conduct herself
0 likes@Loke When did anyone say Casey smoked weed... I don't remember this at all.
0 likes@Bradley Rose
0 likesWhen her mum first found her she was at her boyfriend’s house smoking weed and watching movies. This isn’t something I have against weed, hell I smoke a lot of weed, I’m just saying that seems to be all she wanted to do rather than have responsibilities
@Atlas Screaming Good point; if a trans woman is a man why don't straight men want to date trans men... Oh bc we are men? So trans women are women...? Yeah.
1 like@Bradley Rose Caring for an unborn child doesn’t imply hating women. Why such a strong accusation? You can’t just call people sick because you don’t agree with them, you won’t come into an agreement like that...
0 likesI replied because suggesting that she should have had an abortion when we are talking about a little girl who was murdered is very very heartless...
@Amy Soucy nope
0 likes@Ahmad S what?
0 likes"What I don't get--is this:"
0 likesOne of the root cause is premarital sex is very common in USA...and people are stressed if something goes Wrong
0 likes@David McKee that was more the mother than the father. I think the father was the most innocent out of the family.
0 likes@A Depends on whether you believe she was born a sociopath or if her childhood trauma was so hurtful that it turned her that way. Her parents let her get away with blatant lying all the time and she thought she could get away with 'extremely late-term abortion'. And, well, she did. It's sick and I hope she is facing more torment than what prison could ever offer.
0 likesWish he’ll existed so her attorneys could live there with her.
0 likesShe was guilty af
4 likesIm not even mad she did not get charged i just hope she did something with the second chance of freedom she got
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You can Google her, she didn't learn a lesson. She used this case to make herself into a Z list celeb, and brags to people at bars that she got away with murder.
3 likesHolly smokes. That jury was gullible! What's this crazy person up to now'days? Can she be retried on new evidence?
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Maybe
0 likesHer best friend shed more tears over her child than she did...
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She saw that as baffling to her, as it wasn't her friend's kid but hers, but yet she isn't as shook up as she was. It was crazy
334 likes@dualspectrumreality ytilaermurtcepslaud I'm just giving a possible idea on what the other dude meant as "no".
9 likesI know what I said wasn't definitive as you pointed out, it was just a trend in behaviour under each category.
did she go down?????
1 likeAnd she said phone them was a huge waste, wtf
34 likesIt was heartbreaking poor Christina 😩😩
54 likesThe "it was a waste" how much of a monster can you be
so true, strangers care more for someone's child than the actual parent.
15 likes@Fanina Aniana people are saying in this situation not all lol.
1 like@John Smith bruh
14 likes@Johnny Sins hey, i just saw you in another comment saying that life is hard cause you’re a white guy! please find a hobby that doesn’t include making “”anti-woke”” jokes 😌💅✨
33 likesJohnny Sins link?
0 likes@Sasha fun fact- the word woke didn’t even originate from white people. Anti-woke can actually have a pretty serious meaning if you’re looking at where it originated and why. But everyone has a right to their opinions i guess
1 likeShe displayed social, not antisocial behavior because she was a partygirl
0 likesWould you consider yourself to be a good person?
1 likeHow many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
Hell, everyone else shed more tears for that child than she did.
1 like@Kayvon Crenshaw stick with your evangelizing, I’ll stick with my Reason and Logic, thank you very much.
2 likes@DarkSektori God sheds tears for those who remain in their sins and continue to resist His call to come unto repentance and turn to Jesus Christ
0 likes@Just SomeRandom I use logic and reason within my evangelism. If you have possessed reason and logic like you say you have, then let's discuss why you don't believe in God?
1 like@Kayvon Crenshaw 🤦♂️Um ok whatever, preaching about god, Jesus or whichever of the 45k denominations of the same ideology you follow. Yeah you guys talk about humanity uniting under the word of God, yet you guys can't even unite your own Church. To me this is 45k different interpretatons of how bad God sucks at his job.
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw Go preach to someone who cares. You want to get into a Bible passage war? You will loose. You opened this can of worms and are trying to make this a nonsenical religious debate by preaching to everyone. You started this now I'm ending it.
0 likes@DarkSektori "You want to get into a Bible passage war?"
0 likesSure. Some formal dialectics can give you some clarity and help you be more perspicacious within your lack of understanding.
" You will loose. You opened this can of worms and are trying to make this a nonsenical religious debate by preaching to everyone. You started this now I'm ending it."
Perfect. Know that the Children of the most High God, Jesus Christ, will prevail. I would love to see what you bring to the table.
@Kayvon Crenshaw You want to Warship a lunatic diety that's your deal. This discussion was about something completely different untill you brought your religious lunacy to the discussion so don't waste your time because I'm not responding to any more ramblings from you. Have a nice life.
0 likes@DarkSektori You do know I, of course, am defending the Christian biblical worldview, right? What do you mean by lunacy?
0 likesHere, I want to ask you a quick question. Why do you think God directly murders people? Also, why do you think murder is wrong?
Just bear with me. Because I know you are trying to disprove Christianity with the dead philosophy "Problem of Evil" which has been dead since the 60s in which even Atheists find the particular arguments asinine and elementary weak.
Random people who have no ties to her at all besides this case has shed far more tears than she ever will about her daughter.
3 likes@Johnny Sins shes not even beautiful
0 likes@Kayvon Crenshaw wait but was what the point of that ?
0 likes@femblvd What was the point? To assess if you are a good person in the face of God's Law as well as to give everyone an idea whether they are going to heaven or not. Any questions? I can give you some literature for you to ponder on.
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0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
When you can see the entire whites of their eyes (less than a minute in), there are nuts and bolts missing.
0 likesThe fact that the jury let her off is criminal in its self.
0 likesI believe if Ted Bundy has that lawyer who was defending this woman, he would be a free man right now.
0 likesWho's Caylee's dad and did he have the chance to help raise the child?
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her dad is her grandfather
0 likesShe made up people who didn’t exsist and then on her diary she legit talked about her daughters death and how she’s happy her child is dead, and the jury saw that as NOTHING, and let her go.
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I believe there wasn’t any actual physical evidence to convict her of the murder. She is 100% guilty though.
75 likesIf in fact she was a victim of sexual abuse by her father, all this is understandable. As a professional I’ve seen the extent of the damage done to those victims. It’s PTSD at least and that takes shape in so many different ways.
18 likesI feel sadness at this recount. She may well have killed her daughter and she’ll not escape that burden. She’d be a tortured soul living a tortured life for the time she was abused until the end of her life.
@Mel Graner1 dude, do you not know that the “raped” thing is a lie.
181 likesThere's a conspiracy here.
3 likesJuries are biased as hell and under any normal circumstances, she'd be found guilty...so why wasn't she ?
27 likes@Monika Styleloveshome there are plenty of people who are sitting in prison today and they had no physical evidence but it was beyond a reasonable doubt that they did the crime…
89 likes@Moonchild what’s the conspiracy?
1 like@Mel Graner1 I think her father was her enabler her whole life. I don't think he abused her. I think he made excuses for her.
59 likes@Harry Mills they all enabled her lies and behavior idk how that seems like good parenting to them.
23 likes@Lovely V✨ idk but it's totally unbelievable she wasn't found guilty, innocent people are found guilty on no evidence physical or circumstantial, somebody wanted her to get away with it.
20 likesIf I remember, the prosecution charged 1st degree murder and the jury had to convict on that or nothing. They couldn't charge 2nd degree if they wanted to because that's not how it works in FL.
3 likesKurbirb It suck; but they let her go because of two reasons. 1.) I hate to admit it; but there was reasonable doubt, and 2.) It was a sacrifice. They helped her because they're all in on it. They are all part of a luciferian secret society.
2 likes@Mel Graner1 even IF she was abused that should be a separate case because at the end of the day she still killed her daughter and it wasn't caylee's fault if casey's father abused her
24 likes@Mel Graner1 regardless if that’s true or not, she still killed her daughter and deserves to face the consequences
23 likesYou know what they say " People that serve on juries are too dumb to get out of it"
8 likes@Chivo Ramirez Nope.; but I know now. I wouldn't want to get out of it.
1 like@LIFO the party Who did?
1 like@Moonchild cuz she is a woman, a pretty young woman.
5 likes@Mel Graner1 I think that was a lie because that is all Casey knows how to do is lie. Consider the source, if you will.
2 likes@Sonjingohan 0 My heart dropped at the end but this is the most sensible explanation I’ve seen!
0 likes@Mel Graner1 You would think so but she seems to be enjoying life pretty well. She got a boob job so people wouldn't recognize her, became a private investigator, and is now writing a book about her daughter's death and her experience of being "wrongfully" accused.
5 likes@Mel Graner1 as someone with severe ptsd from prolonged sexual and physical abuse, i would never fucking THINK to kill my own child. this is a dangerous statement to make and you should know that as a professional. whatever reason she has, she didn't kill her child because of ptsd.
17 likes@taaliyah patton Ty, it's what I believe. We know that people helped her, that is were the reasonable doubt came from.
1 like@Mel Graner1 how dare you say this is understandable. That was an innocent child. Why in the world would you think it's an undeniable fact that she was molested when that was never proven? You are quite naive if you think because somebody killed someone that automatically means they will be tortured by the guilt for the rest of their lives. There are evil people in this world who do not care about human life. You must have missed the interview a couple of years ago where she said she sleeps well at night. You don't know what you're talking about. Many people have been found guilty with no physical evidence but lots of circumstantial, as in this case. You are absolutely disgusting for saying anything this women did is "understandable" and you should be ashamed of yourself.
12 likes@Moonchild shes a female
0 likesIf you look up the case online, a lot of the forensics point to the fact that Caylee's was in perfect condition (perfect as in there were not traces of forced drowning and the duct tape wasn't placed on her) when they found it. A witness also testified the grandfather knew about the child's death and the grandmother admitted the way Caylee was buried was reminiscent of how they used to bury their pets. The mist likely case we can get out of this is negligence and Casey decided not to report the death in as she knew people would accuse her of murder which is probably what she's talking about in the dairy.
4 likes@Moonchild I seriously don't think I'd ever want a jury of my peers if I was ever in court. Just let the judge decide. People are so emotional and are swayed but all sorts of things
3 likesyou're assuming the bias would make them convict her guitlty, when in fact the bias did the opposite
0 likesThe prosecution failed to prove without a reasonable doubt that she herself killed Caylee......it’s not that she was innocent, she was found not guilty because the prosecution didn’t prove it. It was their failing.
1 like@Moonchild my best assumption is that this case was on a national scale. as the prosecution said, since the lawyer got the oppurtunity to plead his case on national television the stakes were high and the jury’s pressure was aswell
1 like@Jon I agree totally, juries scare the shite outta me.
0 likes@Kurbirb how do you know it’s a lie? She obviously killed her child so there has to be something gone wrong in her childhood
0 likes*Exist*. Learn to spell, Kirby-lover.
0 likesBc she’s a woman, women get lighter sentences or go free completely. Especially if they’re pretty and young
1 like@Moonchild True. But when a Black man in his car smells like Weed, he gets 12 years in prison.. smh
0 likes@Kobi Odi got a problem with a spelling mistake?
0 likesParanormal investigators should take Evp by the sight and ask the spirit of the girl who killed her
0 likesWait a second she went free?? Im midvideo right now wtf
0 likes@Dornpunzel Sadly
0 likes@Lovely V✨ facts, but those people usually don’t have the privilege of her skin tone and money for a good lawyer
0 likesWow
0 likesBecause having random juries deciding if someone'd guilty or not is the stupidest thing.
0 likesThey listen to that lawyer talk snd manipulating them and think they did justice today
I knew her years ago we both grew up in Youngstown Ohio I never thought she would’ve ended up doing what she did in a million years
0 likes@Mel Graner1 being raped makes killing your daughter understandable? That’s concerning 🤨
1 like@Marcellus that's not what they said/meant. But having traumatic experience can fuck you up for a lifetime. So your whole perspective on everything can be totally different from what's the norm.
1 likeBut in this case specifically i don't think she's actually been abused by her father but rather a sociopath.
I think it was that they felt there was reasonable doubt insofar as Casey’s father perhaps committing the murder
0 likes@Harry Mills parents enabjed
0 likesthank god this channel is back
3 likesHOW WAS THIS MONSTER ACQUITTED!!?? HOW!!??
0 likes" I didn't kill my daughter! it was some puerto rican guy!"
1 likeIf only Jose Baez would try using his powers for good for a change...
1 likeYou can tell by the 911 call that Casey literally could not give less of a shit.
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Honestly I dont like her and think she should rot in prison, but her aloof demeaner during the investigation is exactly whats needed if being accused for a crime you didnt do. It was a smart unemotional response to not tag her as a suspect and criminalize herself, but again, im not saying shes innocent or that she doesnt deserve to rot in hell. Im saying her demeanor as a suspect is valuable to remove yourself from the possibility of criminalizing yourself.
57 likesAmazing isn't it, from the very first she so obviously did it.
16 likes@Dismal Realms at this point that's all we can hope for.
1 like(I can only hope for more than that watching this again)
@bigboysalmon 55 Except it was more than being accused of a random crime. Her daughter was missing for 5 weeks. Whether she killed her or not she should have been freaking out regardless.
55 likes@John Vitale i agree i was mainly trying to point out defending yourself under investigation and not incriminating yourself. i know any normal person should be panicked at their child missing
2 likes@bigboysalmon 55 Yeah in general I agree with your point.
1 likeI can't help but wonder, without someone like Casey parents who regularly see Caylee to call the police, how long would this have gone unnoticed?...
5 likes@zyme possibly forever. Which is terrifying to think about.
4 likes@bigboysalmon 55 I think she should get the death penalty. She took an innocent child’s life to hangout with her boyfriend at night... that’s absurd
2 likes@John Vitale my daughter went missing for less then 5 mins when she was two. We was in an Abbey with my other two daughters. I freaked out, had visions of losing her.
9 likesIt was only when I heard her call me and ran over to see her standing with a couple who had a baby of there own... I broke into tears. My heart raced, my head spun out all within a 3-5 min space of time...
If my daughter went missing like hers supposedly did, I'd be on the phone that very second. I wouldn't care even if I over reacted.
See as a father my daughters are my life and without them, I simply have no life. My life is entangled with theirs.
@bigboysalmon 55 If she were a stranger this would make more sense, but she's the mother so her dead, emotionally empty response makes her look guilty as hell to me.
0 likes@Normal Username with extra Generic I agree with you but I was mainly talking about incriminating words and talking to the police in general. Evidence is based on "she did this during that hour" and "she confessed to doing this, with evidence showing that X Y Z instead." You don't ever get charged on "She seemed weird and guilty as hell so let's put her in jail"- it adds to suspicion but not actual evidence to use against her if you get what I mean
4 likesShe was high, but even then, that would make you more paranoid, so I’m taken aback as to why she did that
0 likes@bigboysalmon 55 but on the call she hadn't been accused of anything yet... she just legitimately felt nothing towards her daughter
0 likes@Normal Username with extra Generic the...call.. with the government agency for....crimes..?
0 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone I can tell that for you because you use the letter "u" instead of literally just putting two other letters before that "u" to make an actual word.
0 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone I was just having some fun, I don't really think that.
0 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone although I will admit it's a pet peeve of mine.
0 likesHonestly haven’t taken psychology in college I’d be on the phone immediately if I couldn’t find my daughter or son I’d be in hysterics she’s just nonchalant narcissistic it looks like and she’s more involved with herself what she wants and what’s good for her and caring about herself rather than what has happened to her daughter....That’s classic narcissism and a pathological liar
0 likes@zyme A very Good Point..
0 likesyes her voice sounded relaxed and normal after.
1 likeShe didnt even want to talk to them
2 likesShame on the jurors!
0 likessee? im finishing to watch it now. My God! it was so obvious that her fathter did that to her 😔
0 likesshe didnt pass away, she was murdered
0 likesNo worries people. She's out clubbing with some cool dudes now.
0 likes¯\(°_o)/¯
When a jury is THIS criminally stupid, they deserve to be the ones charged.
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They do drink saltwater in Florida
75 likes@EdgE WyzE As someone who lives in Florida I can confirm this.
69 likesWho do they pick to be the jury? This is just insane! Are these people high school dropouts or what?
23 likesThe problem wasn’t the jury, it was the prosecution charging her with first degree murder with barely any evidence. Had they built their case more and charged her accordingly with the evidence they find she would be in jail.
32 likesYou cant charge someone if there is any reasonable doubt, while her behavior alone pretty much says that she's guilty, there remains reasonable doubt exactly as the defense laid out- there is mo evidence whatsoever that Casey actually killed her daughter. In fact many people who says she's guilty still disagree about what actually happened- some say that she killed her intentionally(1st degree), some say she died accidentally but due to what is still illegal or criminal behavior/negligence [such as drugging Caylee so she would sleep & she could fo out with her friends/bf dancing etc but accidentally gave her too much & she OD'd] (I'm not sure if this would be 1st 2 and/or other degree/murder), and- like the defense stated- some say there is reasonable doubt about all of it & theres no evidence that Casey actually had anything to do with her death at all & something else happened [like her drowning in a pool accidentally&Dad panicked & buried her](& this would not be a murder charge at all depending on Casey's extent of knowledge & involvement in burying her than she would have different levels of charges guilt but none including murder..).... so while it seems intuitively obvious that Casey is guilty on some level, its actually not clear what happened & if she is guilty of 1st 2and 3rd or no degree of murder, and therefore from a legal standpoint and from the standpoint of the jury where there is a huge huge huge responsibility on their hands, they have to use the evidence to determine BEYOND ANY DOUBT that she is guilty of murder, and that's simply not clear. I beleive the most likely scenario is that Caylee accidentally died &Casey panicked/didnt want to go to jail if she was negligent so she just avoided dealing at all and was to invested in her bf to care about anything else anyway bc shes self centered selfish and not mature enough to handle anything
9 likesThere should never be a Jury involved in law to decide over the future of a life. As if regular people are qualified to make a decision of that extent. If that would be the case, why even bother studying law? There is a reason, no over country (to my knowledge) has a Jury but america
7 likes@Justin Mason nope, very little countries have a Jury. Most don't
6 likes@EdgE WyzE Apparently!
0 likes@Daniele Amaral They charged her with literally everything. The jury could have found her guilty for anything ranging from man 3 to murder 1, even negligent homicide- meaning she died because of Casey's actions but Casey didn't mean to kill her. There was plenty of evidence and everyone knows it. Even the jurors have said they knew she did it but couldn't say how... no one asked them fucking how. That was the world's dumbest, most incompetent jury ever. Also Casey has admitted Jose Baez lied during her trial to get her off. The only way the prosecution messed up was by excluding evidence that could have hurt her.
5 likes@Sasha Braus UK has jury service in England and Wales if the case is serious enough to go to a crown court hearing, and the accused sometimes has the right to request that, although there are some exceptions where a crown court won't have a jury (suspected jury tampering, defendant pleads autrefois, etc.).
1 likeNorthern Ireland, Scotland, and other parts of the UK use different rules sometimes, but I'm pretty sure jury service is a thing in all UK countries, dependencies, and overseas territories (with the possible exception of the Indian Ocean Territories which are mostly being rented out to the U.S for military purposes)
@ReallyBadPoetry that's becaude they all have anglo saxon law. This is not the case for the majority of european countries or the world in fact
1 like@Sasha Braus
2 likes"Great Britain, the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and more than 40 other nations employ juries of citizens drawn from the general population who decide cases collectively."
@DreadPirate Roberts Can you link me your source? Because as far as I know, the Jury system of america might be present in the anglo saxon legal system, but not in other countries. Other countries can have a "Jury" but it's very different from the US
1 like@DreadPirate Roberts I cannot open the paper itself as I am not a Member of that website and I do nor want to make an account for this only. However as far as I understood from the little abstract text included, they looked in varietys of jurys around the world. As I stated already, very few countries have a jury system like the US. In germany we have "Schöffen" which are your basic citizen that will sit besides the judge and make the final decision with them but they are only present in very few verdicts and although they are equal to the judges who studied law, they are not the ones to make the final decision ALONE, like here. That's where I was heading to. You cannot make 12 random people do that.
1 like@Sasha Braus I prefer a jury of peers to some single designated person
1 like@Big Dee that's irrelevant
0 likes@DreadPirate Roberts idk hoe it is in other countries btut there can be up to 3 judges. I prefer people with knowledge over 12 citizens who might not even listen the whole time, because it doesn't involve them anyway
0 likes@Sasha Braus it's a crime to ignore evidence when you're summoned for jury duty
0 likes@DreadPirate Roberts yeah and I am sure people will just admit they didn't pay attention. They could just as well give their vote like the others and done.
0 likes@Daniele Amaral Circumstantial evidence was abound and many a case was determined by it. The jury wanted basically a iPhone video of her doing the act, that was the standard being deployed here. A total sham of justice, if it all ends up being psychological tricks and mind games by the defense, throwing a plethora of crap on the wall hoping it sticks then this subterfuge of criminal intent, and justice is measured in the trickery one dispenses to get one out.
3 likesI have to believe that although I understand the right to a defense attorney and the obligation it therein befalls to defend your client, there at some point has to be a moral/ethical barrier one cannot cross into that goes into active deflection and trickery, and total fabrication to confuse the jury. At that point one becomes the Devil's advocate IMO.
@Sasha Braus "why make crimes illegal, people won't admit to crimes."
0 likes@DreadPirate Roberts that's not what I was saying. I was saying that just because it's illegal, doesn't mean that people won't do it and after all, they decide of someones future life. So might as well not take that risk. But I respect your opinion, don't get me wrong. I just don't have the same. So let's agree to disagree and call it night:)
0 likes@A R To me there is no confusion on how Caylee died, if accidental because the POS was partying or hanging with her boyfriend or she slipped into a pool, the fact she was found duct-taped and gagged makes no sense. She was found that way because she died at the hands of the POS by INTENT as she would of screamed out otherwise. Her actions post Caylee's absence was a massive red-flag for anybody still left alive in this day and age with a lick of common sense. Like I indicated, the baseline now is that one needs a video of the deed in this age of instant image gratification with no critical thinking and deduction skills.
0 likes@DreadPirate Roberts remember you can't argue with stupid 🙄
0 likes@lindajackson618 "demon liberals," ...what you really mean is that people who do not believe the same as you are less human. "who's kids and family are all criminals." You mean kids and families from conservatives never act ungodly and never break the law? I am simply not understanding what your point is or why you feel the need to dehumanize people.
1 likeJuries are often selected by lawyers for low intelligence. Now we have a perfect example as to why.
2 likesBut Casey Anthony is a woman. Therefore everything she says is true. #BelieveAllWomen
0 likesYeah cuz it’s criminally stupid to not put someone in jail if there isn’t enough evidence. Or maybe criminal cases shouldn’t be treated as some psychological riddle and rather treated like a human being who should be given the benefit of the doubt no matter what
0 likesThe prosecuter was weak , no yelling no pointing fingers
0 likeswell, there was proof someone googled "cloroform" or "how to make cloroform" (among other incriminating searches) before caylee went missing from their home computer at a time both of her parents were at work (premeditation), they found residue of cloroform in the trunk. and duct tape on the her skull, where she was found in the woods right near her house, where her mouth and nose would be shows that there's no other outcome consistent with that action other than suffocation/death (premeditation) and which I think shows exactly how she died, I don't get why people were so unsure. There's no other reason a child would have duct tape on their mouth, especially if they drowned and were already dead supposedly, doesn't make much sense. Also, later on after the trial, which I guess is irrelevant to the outcome because at the time they didn't know, they found out Casey did a search for "fool proof suffocation" on the last day Caylee was seen alive (at a time her parents were at work). Her defense found this but of course kept it to themselves. and the search was done in between her messaging her friends and signing in on myspace (so you know for sure it was her!) which to me is all the evidence you need. I think that could have been the smoking gun.
1 like@Blut und Boden I think the skull with the duct tape where her nose/mouth was does show how she was killed. I don't know if they put enough emphasis on it, but there would be no good reason at all for a child to have duct tape over their mouth/nose that's consistent with anything other than the outcome of suffocation/death, especially if the child supposedly drowned and is already dead. Need not look further than that, in my opinion
0 likesAGREED BOUGHT AND SOLD INTO THE LIES OF CASEY.
0 likes@Daniele Amaral So expert explain the duck tape. A the car reaking of a dead rotting body inside. Rocket Science !?
0 likes@Blut und Boden A Deceiver !!! Like Satan Is.
0 likes@Megan Fuller yeah like The Lie of Casey Dad. That was the scale tipper. It didn't seem that way. When talking to her dad on the phone did it !?
0 likesThe system is allowed the jury to be stupid as they want. You should go to charge the legislators for making the law to let the jury did so if you feel the jury are guilty.
0 likesWow, I see a lot of comments that have no idea how a jury actually works.
1 likePeople don't believe what they don't understand. Why would a mother do this? Sociopaths and psychopaths are real. There is a lack of education about mental illness in this country.
1 likeYour proposal would undermine the impartiality of the criminal justice system. Nevertheless, the jurors who spoke about it all remarked that they knew she did it, but there wasn’t enough physical evidence to meet the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard of guilt, so they had no choice but to acquit her given the facts of the case.
0 likes@David Sumner if there way any physical evidence that actually connected casey definitivley to the crime than she would be in jail, if her dna was on the duct tape, if thsy could prove that her car was on surveillance parked at the endge of forest were body dumped, if they could prove that Caylee was decompsing in her trunk at the time she was driving the vehicle on surveillance, if they could even prove circumstantial evidence like the internet searches which the MOTHER said on OATH on the stand that SHE MADE, etc...everything combinded makes casey seem guilty particularly her behavior, but you cant convict on odd behavior and circumstancial evidence thats been brught into reasonable doubt due to conplete lack of hard evidence as well as absolutely zero concept of what actualy happened and if it was even murder rather than an accident...so i disagree completely that standard would mean no one would get convicted....
0 likesCentral Florida, especially Orlando and Winter Park, are working extra hard to be like other liberal cities.
0 likesOpinions dont get a conviction... Evidence does. Blame the detectives not the jury.
1 like@Blut und Boden Then at this point they should only choose random people that have Average IQs and are able to process information.
0 likes@Dante's Inferno I know plenty of highschool dropouts that are far smarter than people who graduated high school...being a highschool drop-out has NOTHING to do with ones intelligence and to say so is ignorant
0 likes@Ldawg711 being smart is not everything. You need to be knowledgeable. If you do not have knowledge of things your smartness is of no use.
0 likesAnother "O.J." jury!
0 likesThis woman showed more emotion at being declared not guilty than her daughter being DEAD. Actually revolting.
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I mean its good her genes aren't being passed on? Trying to find a silver lining here.
32 likes@dave someone i realize you meant that as a good thing, but it comes off rlly bad since her daughter was killed
75 likes@oblivion yeah but like he said, he was trying to find a silver lining there.
13 likes@dave someone you tried XD
4 likes@oblivion Yea but that's what's cool about the internet. I can have my thought experiments and look bad while doing it.
17 likesRead my mind.
0 likesYeah. I'm ill.. she is a monster.
2 likes@dave someone she actually had twins recently unfortunately
8 likes@Glo Marie God damnit that's depressing
9 likesJudging people based on how you perceive their emotional response is never a good call. It's logic like this that ruined the life of that couple falsely accused of murdering their child when they reported them killed by a dingo. Everyone handles grief differently, and you cannot derive what is going on in a person's head from what you see in their exterior surfaces. Half the people at my oldest friend's funeral in march did not seem appropriately sad for the occasion, joking around disrespectfully the whole time, but broke into tears and fucking collapsed the moment they were asked to speak about him.
5 likesJudge her on the evidence. Do not judge her on your perception of her emotions, and never mix up your perceptions with the reality of someone else's interior world.
@IUseThisName ForMyGoogleAccount this is murder tho, not just a funeral, and also the point still stands she was accused guilty and then got sad not before then.
2 likes@IUseThisName ForMyGoogleAccount ... She murdered her own child in purpose, this isn't a funeral or a sad ocassion, that damn woman murdered a child to avoid her responsability, and she showed more geniune emotions when knowing she got away with it, in comparison of all the interrogation and recordings where she acted very off.
4 likes@IUseThisName ForMyGoogleAccount Well I'm judging your decision to use this case as a credible example for us to show "leniency towards people" as you are being too lenient, uncritical, inattentive, and not concerned enough with the details of what happened.
1 likeYou mentioned "you cannot derive what is going on in a person's head from what you see in their exterior" True, it is unseen...
Though It's true that Beliefs inform our actions, and actions have consequences. therefore you can see it externally, in a persons behaviour, action, communications ect.
I'm interested, Do you make judgements about people you meet based on information you gather from your social interactions with them? If so, what makes you think you are RIGHT or justified in believing your own decisions, which are opinions about the persons communication, attitude, language, emotions, behaviours displayed. What makes your judgement about another persons behaviour NOT only your opinion, but true enough to be believed? -you don't make sense, and you can't have it both ways. you should judge Casey's behaviour! It is a form of evidence. It is physical actions. Beliefs inform our actions, and actions have consequences.
"your daughter is dead"
3 likesher: hmmm-mmm
"you are not guilty"
her: ;_;
@dave someone Nothing wrong with her genes. Genes have nothing to do with the person she became.
3 likesWhy is she not guilty?
0 likesFACTS
0 likes@M L How do you know that?
0 likes@dave someone You clearly have no idea how genes work. There is no criminal gene.
1 like@Schrödinger's Cat so mental illness isn't ever inherited? Yea ok...
0 likes@dave someone mental illness doesn’t inherently cause the person to become a criminal. plenty of nd people live normal lives
1 like@jestfullgremblim800 there’s not really a silver lining, a kid is dead
1 like@oblivion yeah
0 likes@Glo Marie ah, see…
0 likes29:53 she messes up and says to her parents "I can't even put into words how glad I am that she's HAD both of u"... then realises her mistake and changes it to, "and that she STILL HAS both of u". She's such a bad liar
0 likesThe psychologists who evaluated her and “found nothing wrong” fell directly into her manipulative ability to mirror and say exactly what they wanted to hear. There is a reason they don’t send sociopaths to therapy.
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Well said..tbh she can manipulate the Jury but one day her trial will come and she will face her consequences one way or another
68 likesShe got evaluated by psychiatrists, not by a forensic psychologist for example.
38 likes@Lront she will never be on another court case on Caylee Anthony bro lol that is not how the justice system works unfortunately
17 likes@Ben DoverThat’s not what he/she is talking about. They mean meeting her maker.
27 likes@Kelly M Absolutely 110% WRONG. There's very little a psychologist can do if someone has ASPD and decent enough IQ. ASPD has clearly defined characteristics which need to be met, if someone has no prior documented history of violent behavior and they remain composed and fake empathy during the interrogation, you have nothing. We all know she did it and we all know she has ASPD but the latter was impossible to prove by psychologists given her acting skills and no prior misbehavior.
45 likesGuilty as hell yet got away with it.
I thought that the "they found nothing wrong" was actually concerning due to the fact her daughter was missing. Which is abnormal for someone in those situations.
10 likesno they see therapists when it benefits them or helps them gain power or control. in fact they thrive in a therapy setting, it empowers them. otherwise they wouldn't do it.
10 likesi read a book about how abusers exploit therapy to give credability to their perspective, cement themselves as victims, further hold power over the other as well as learn tricks and skills that they can turn around and torment their partner with. the conclusion being that you can't fix an abuser by adressing some kind of underlying cause in their background or childhood. you have to deal with their abuse directly, seperate from anything else. their issue isn't that their mommy didn't love them or whatever the issue is that they're abusive. to truly deal with that you would need some kind of specialist. abuse counceling even. other people should stay far away. EDIT: first of all you need to break up with them and sever all contact
that includes psychopaths, narcissists etc. not just your typical abuser.
@Chandler Rose You're saying someone will kill her? I mean, not that it's that likely. I'm not even sure if that'd change anything for the better.
0 likes@Julia Lee They can only check her for mental health issues, they aren't detectives. "found nothing wrong" was related to her (supposedly) not having mental health issues. This is sadly common for those who know how to mimic others and fake empathy. Regardless of the situation, you can't diagnose someone with anything if they don't fit the criteria behavior wise. And people like her pretend they don't...
11 likes@sad pee Exactly.
0 likes@Ben Dover she might slip up and confess to someone someday, or if they find new evidence (don't know how it would be more damming than current evidence) then it's not double jeopardy and they could try her again.
3 likes@Ben Dover if new evidence is found or comes up, yes she can.
1 like@sad pee that's funny, I was considering going to talk to someone, but then I wondered, well what if I am wrong? They'll just go along with my side and make me think I'm right even more and cement bad behaviours instead of actually fixing the issues! Lol. It's what's made me avoid it. The questioning if I'm right or wrong and if I am wrong not to have it reinforced.
0 likes@Kelly M the psychiatrist are just looking for why the person has a flawed logic. Casey is smart at lying, she killed her daughter for a reason, she was not in psychosis. She just didn't have enough lies to spin. Secondly psychiatrist check whether or not a patient can cooperate to change their behavior. Casey isn't going to change her behavior.
0 likesThe pure amount of ableism here is astounding. Please understand that while some people with npd and aspd CAN be abusers, not all of them are. Denying them therapy can be outright dangerous as it can be a very helpful tool that can make life better for them and others around them. I would reccomend watching actual aspd or npd people talk about their experiences, these people are human beings just like everyone else.
1 like@Hunter Bidens School Dumpster Pew the book i read was "why does he do it?" by some guy. anyway, the right choice if someone is abusive is to leave them because nothing you can do can fix them. their abuse is a choice, if they wanted to stop they would have.
2 likesin fact catering to their insecurities and trying to make them feel better can have the exact opposite effect, boosting their ego and making the abuse worse. he'd just see it as another way of you tending to him and he'd feel yet more entitled. then feel justified to dish out yet more punishment.
@lifting skieswho tf brought up npd and aspd? what even is that?
0 likeswe're talking about people who are abusive and narcissistic. therapy may make them feel better or healthier but it won't stop the abuse, inflating a person like that can only serve to make things worse.
therapy is good for anyone and i would recommend it, even to abusers. but not as a means to end abuse and especially not with someone you're dating
heads up talking about the tactics and dangers of abusers isn't ableism because their abuse isn't a conditon. it's a choice. there's been studies on this i'm being serious . nothing is causing them to abuse people, they don't have underlying issues that lead to it. the stastics don't show any correlation between them. they truly are just abusive people and that's that. the contrary is a misconception that they've helped spread. although it may seem like they're insane sometimes, that's part of the strategy, causing confusion and misdirecting people away from the true problem.
now people with violent outburts could have some conditon which deserves adjustments from other people - but that's not the same as abuse. you can be abusive and never violent, you can have anger issues without being abusive.
@sad pee npd... narcissistic personality disorder... it’s the medical condition a narcissist must have to be considered a narcissist medically. Aspd is the disorder that sociopaths and psychopaths have (they both fall under the same disorder, there’s not much of a distinction or at least not enough of one to warrant two different medical conditions). And my point is that psychopaths, sociopaths, and narcissists are not inherently abusive (these terms are not interchangeable) and yes, it is literally ableist to assume otherwise.
2 likes@sad pee also it’s worth noting that I’m replying to the initial comment which does not mention dating or abuse at all
0 likes@lifting skies aigh, my bad. misread the room there.
0 likesyou are right as well. they're not inherently abusive and if they did abuse that would be a separate issue completely detached from their condition.
you're right, i'm wrong. sorry for being a dumb dumb for a moment there
@sad pee lol it’s ok
0 likesAs someone who has ASPD therapy did absolutely nothing for me until I went to someone who specialized in personality disorders. I never wanted therapy because I thought I was fine just different. I was never violent or abusive but I did think I was above others. It started taking a toll on my marriage and finally I gave in to my husbands pleas for therapy. As soon as I would go in I’d mimic who I know the therapist wanted to see. An easy case of just marital arguments and insecurities. But as soon as I came across my currant therapist she called me out on my bullshit and at first I acted as if I had no clue what she was talking about and then I just let the facade go. As some who struggles with feeling no empathy or regard for others I knew I peaked her interest when I explain I just simply didn’t care. After about a year I began to trust her and she actually has been able to help. I grew an attachment to my marriage. Will I ever learn empathy, who knows. But I will say I have more regard for another person than I did when I first began my treatment. I know I’ll never be cured but I can learn how to feel instead of just observing and learning how to mimic to get what I want.
2 likesYou are so right!!! Master manipulators!
0 likesThey absolutely do send people with Anti social personality disorder to therapy.
0 likescause shes not a sociopath there is definetlly something very wrong there but its not sociopathic
0 likes@Ben Dover pretty sure they meant religious trial lol
0 likes@Lront is this some Jesus stuff or do you not know she got off and will never ever ever face the consequences?
0 likes@sad pee yeah I totally know from experience that boosting someone ego can make it just get worse. You think you're being nice and building them up and stuff and you're just cementing their view that they're superior to you.
1 like@lifting skies I agree with this too. It astounds me how casually and acceptable it is to treat them the way they are. It's kind of ridiculous.... Some aren't aware and become aware and realize the damage and are upset and wanna fix themselves so they can live a healthy life and be happy and make others happy but are scared to seek help almost.
0 likes@The Administrator no lol they mean whenever she dies. Wether if it’s from old age or murder
1 like@lifting skies CBT/DBT is not recommended to treat aspd because it’s largely ineffective due to the symptoms. If a therapist is not extremely well versed in treating it, they’re at risk for counter-transference reactions which can be damaging to, or halt the therapeutic process all together. Therapists who are experienced in treating it aren’t readily available because few individuals with aspd seek treatment on their own. They see no issue with their behavior as it relates to others (a symptom). Those who ARE in treatment, more often than not, are there bc it's mandated. This also means they're being disproportionately treated in underfunded settings (psychiatric wards, prisons, etc.) where an aspd specialist is not likely to be. However there’s promising new research on CBTpd, a therapeutic approach specifically catered towards personality disorders. I believe there’s a comment below from an individual with aspd who benefitted from that type of therapy, but not the other ones.
1 likeShe isn't a sociopath or the psychologist would have figured that out..they didn't, because there is nothing wrong with Ceasy. People don't understand her because of her social style, she keeps her emotions to herself because she is 100% task orintented and yes, this does make her able to lie effertlessly, and nobody can really know her emotional state for that reason, these people are often described as cold and insensitive for a reason, I know, because I have a brother exactly like her, but he never killed anyone, or mistreats people (like what sociopaths do).
0 likesI dated a sociopath once, so, I know first hand experience that there is a huge difference between these two types of people I discribe.
@Lront psychiatrists who evaluated Laurie Daybell found her perfectly normal too, despite her believing her husband had been replaced with some other man and he and her kids became zombies because they weren't part of those chosen for rapture
0 likes@Peter Hoffman I disagree
0 likesCasey's parents encouraged her lying behaviour from the start. Throwing her a graduation party when she never even graduated? That alone is absurd and psychotic.
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Exactly. Finally someone pointing at nurture rather than Nature.
161 likesI don't have any friends because they are ashamed of the videos I upload. Are they really that bad, dear charles
7 likesMaybe they knew how important it was to Casey, so they played along with it. Not graduating can be embarrassing for some people. I haven’t finished the video but they seem like nice people who would do anything to make their family happy.
59 likes@Bfyee good point
6 likes@Bfyee the look like good people?
18 likesgrandma maybe? but grandpa sure as hell ain't clean 28:33 he refers to his granddaughter as that little girl if the case of chris watt taught me anything it is that a culprit is trying to distance himself from the victim
@AxxL 30k and still self promoting
11 likes@Darkhorse I agree. I see a lot of the time people blame the parents or their childhood. Some people come from horrible backgrounds and they blossom choosing a better life for themselves, others don’t. I think letting the devil and his darkness consume you is what makes a monster
8 likes@Darion Buck I don’t think graduating was important for Casey, otherwise she would’ve worked for it like you said. However, I do think that LOOKING like she made those accomplishments was important for her, after all she had an image to maintain.
12 likes@silver surfer I feel you on that but it’s also equally possible that is a term of endearment amongst the family. Like if she is the the only granddaughter he may refer to her as “His little girl” and in thus context “that little girl” like “I love that little girl and I want that little girl home with her family” but I could just as easily see your point. More like he knows his daughter did it and he’s just saying what he needs to say to play along.
6 likes@silver surfer dudes watch one psychology video and think they have a doctorate.
14 likesIs he supposed to only refer to her by her name every single time he mentions her? What is he supposed to say? You're implying he's guilty and "not clean" just because he's speaking the way family speak about each other.
Thank god you're not a cop because you'd just be arresting everyone for no reason
@Darion Buck .... You beat me to it I can't believe what I just read from that person.
3 likes@Bfyee She did not go to school and missed her entire senior year because she was partying. She said the schools data was inputted wrong. Lying to all your friends and family and throwing your partying daughter is not good parenting.
8 likesFrom stuff I've read elsewhere, Casey is just like her mom... Which doesn't speak well of her mom.
0 likeswhen I got 2 marks off a full 100% pass, but still passed my exam and had the best result the school had ever had for that exam, my mum still asked why I didn't get those 2 marks. whereas people like the Anthonys throw their kid a party for not graduating, reinforcing that negative behaviour with reward. it's unfathomable to me.
4 likes@Bfyee finish the video
1 like@Darion Buck yes! 🙌
0 likesIt really is
0 likesThey were to soft on her from day 1. If I missed classes or work my parents would be on my ass and give tough love. These parents just believe everything she says it's just to bizzare
3 likes@silver surfer Relax. You’re comparing apples and oranges. Chris Watts spoke of his children in the past tense and with a distancing tone the day AFTER they were reported missing. The Anthony’s had time to process and grieve. Quit reaching.
5 likesOh absolutely, you are so correct. What was especially disgusting was Cindy doing a 180 and defending her daughter on the stand, like her granddaughter didn’t matter. And the way they encouraged her lying was and is just disgusting and so disrespectful for little, innocent Caylee, who never got justice. Just listening to this chick spin her stupid yarns really gets my goat. 🤬😤 I hope she had or has no other children.
4 likes@Bfyee when they were talking to their daughter in jail, you can tell they are genuinely very sweet and caring. makes you wonder why the daughter turned out so evil
1 like@jasminng Yes. There are people that are born who lack empathy and not all of them end up killing or hurting others. It may because they want to avoid consequence or some other reason but it still happens.
2 likes@Angie's Tales from Wales those are two extremes. Your parents seem to be at one end so it is hard to fathom the extreme opposite. For someone else it’s hard to fathom either side, like why they would celebrate her when she didn’t even try and in your situation, why they would even care about something so little and not be so very proud of you instead. Both is very unbalanced and unhealthy.
2 likesHer parents could have been instructed how to talk with her. It was almost like they were kind so she didn’t shut them out and stop talking.
2 likesI can’t believe they couldn’t find ANYTHING else to charge her with though🤬 Negligence, something!
@Brittany Anne oh yeah I know, I wonder if her parents were overcompensating for something though?
1 like@AxxL yes
0 likes@jasminng you cant be born evil thats impossible you can grow up evil tho depends on your environment
0 likeswell, here parents got in trouble because they supported their daughter. with jennifer pam they were killed/disabled because they were too demanding. every situation can make or break someone - it's how you respond. even if my parents enabled my lying i'd be shy to death and change my act and stop lying.
0 likes@Dizzy a child? She was 18 years old no family is perfect and believe me when I say every family has secrets usually to maintain an image or keep something dark hidden
0 likesI disagree it was their form of expressing love.
0 likes@silversurfer you seriously think her father did it?
1 likeWhen emotionally speaking of a close child people say things like ‘that little girl was the most loving….blah blah’.
Unfortunately they see how spoiling her & Co signing her bullshit really backfired
@Darkhorse saying people are born evil is pretty inconsiderate and doesn’t actually help us solve any issue. The first step to making these kinds of people stop their horrific actions is to understand what pushed to that point.
0 likes@jasminng fire question lmao
0 likes@jasminng "If a person is born evil then they don't have any choice about being evil." With this sentence of yours, you are implying that evil people are not making a choice of their own to cause harm or injury. Are you trying to absolve these people of their responsibility and accountability?
1 likeEvils are people who are capable of making concious choices to victimise people for personal gain.
@ Charles Murigu. Maybe her parents consequently felt compelled by their daughters evil antics? I mean was this really all about Casey, did she lie to them after all this hence the party…Then there’s father, did he really sexually abuse her, did mother secretly know about any of this? Seems like there are still many unanswered questions however the most puzzling questions is why did she get away with being the one and only who murdered her beautiful innocent child
0 likesAgreed, but you still can't blame them for their daughter's actions. You can say that their parenting skills (or lack thereof) are responsible for who Casie is as a person, but I don't think I'd be comfortable going any farther than that. That's just my .02 though.
1 like@Dea Dean the “nature vs nurture” distinction is literal nonsense. Organisms are genes expressed in an environment. Is the casserole the ingredients or the cooking????
1 like@jasminng the reality is NO ONE (not those who are “evil”, not those who are not) chooses who they are.
0 likes@Colt45 one of the most objectively false comments I’ve ever come across
0 likesthat entire family has very serious issues. you don't become this level of an entitled liar without external influences
0 likes“This is one of the many occasions where Casey faced none of the ramifications of her conduct...”
0 likesShe learned it from her dad ... an ex cop.
Well, we held a graduation party for me even though I had one course behind me, however we called it a "97.5% party" and where very open about me Not being 100% done, just wanted my grandma there since she was getting old. But having one after missing an entire semester is mental, I agree
0 likesThey didn't know that she didn't graduate until after they put the party together, though.
0 likes@AxxL not charles put yes. also, aren't your girlfriends your friends?
0 likesHer parents seem fishy for sure… I don’t think her dad hurt her, but I think something happened to her and they’re trying to overcompensate. They pretty much made Casey have Kaylee when she did not want to.. I think they knew what happened and just didn’t want to admit it…
0 likes@Darion Buck so? how does that refute the point Bfyee is making?
0 likesShe and her lawyers are all evil. Her own lawyers accused the father of molestation with zero proof, yet she raved about him being a great dad in the jail visit. The father should have sued her lawyers for baseless defamation of character.
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Revenge for her father testimony getting her arrested
60 likesmy jaw literally dropped
29 likesI feel like the parents kind of are either dumb or were tryna cover up for the daughter again. Cus they are acting oblivious to the fact the daughter is behind bars for possible mURDER and lying about where the daughter is. Like while talking on the phone with her in jail.
23 likesMost lawyers are evil. The most evil go on to become judges.
12 likes@Mark Hernandez your bang on mate
0 likes@An Ge she hooked up with him. its disgusting. she moved in with this scum bag lawyer. i cannot believe the jury. how do they sleep at night. where is the justice for that sweet baby girl. ive never been more disgusted
23 likes@Mark Hernandez there are plenty of lawyers who won’t take cases like this. public defenders are the shitty ones because they’re basically saying “i am perfectly willing to fight in court on behalf of a murderer and lie about whatever i need to in order to keep said murderer out of jail”
6 likes@Erica Mercado They were trying to extract information as much they can when they were talking with her in jail, probably on behalf of the police, and they had to go nice to extract that kind of information.........
4 likes@Faran ButtI hope so. Cus the parents covering up her graduating high schools makes me hope that isn’t normal behavior.
6 likes@Dyno Hrnic that whole family is a failure. The Mom issue is she's too soft they spoilt their child. And look what they got
8 likesHer lawyer said that to take the jury's focus off casey. Obviously it worked in her and her lawyers favor.
4 likes@Old Man Jenkins When the good lawyers aren't strong enough to represent within the bounds of the law, the shitty ones step out to pick up the scraps.
6 likes@Matthew Hart so what do you want the good lawyers to do? take the case and then throw it? that would make it hard for them to get hired for worthy cases
3 likes@Amirah Kukan omg wut???
1 likeBro that's basically their job that's how they get income
2 likesI feel like the father knew that this was coming and agreed to protect her daughter (which is crazy to say the least)
1 like@Old Man Jenkins Public Defenders are the shitty ones? I hope your loved ones are never in need of one. PD’s are upholding the law that guarantees every citizen representation if they cannot afford it. How many innocent people are arrested? The scarier ones to me are the attorneys that make massive amounts of money to defend wealthy people that commit crimes. Again, the law guarantees representation. It doesn’t mean I agree with this decision but I didn’t agree with the OJ Simpson decision either. And I’m pretty sure his expensive attorneys knew he was guilty.
8 likesAs horrible as it can seem even the worst of society deserve to be defended in a court of law . A necessary evil for people who are actually innocent .
4 likes@Jason Wolfe Fact. Guaranteed right of every citizen of this country.
4 likesThey just want money
0 likes@Zal1810 laura linares pretty sure everyone noticed that!!!
0 likesBaez makes this horrible accusation in the Opening and then never brings it up again the entire trial! That’s about as unethical as Kirk Nurmi letting Jodi Arias call Travis Alexander a pedophile and then never introducing a shred of evidence.... it’s immoral and unethical and slimy.
3 likes@Erica Mercado I honestly felt like they were afraid of Casey. They covered up for her lies her entire life.... no wonder Casey thought she could lie her way out of this murder charge.... she always got her way and even in the verdict she got her way!!! It’s disgusting.... her parents are definitely partly responsible for the vile human this monster has become.
2 likes@Old Man Jenkins I humbly disagree- public defenders are the heroes of the Justice system- seriously underpaid and overworked and they are the ones who take on so many cases for poor underprivileged people- mostly black men- who don’t have the resources to fight for their freedom, or fight against a corrupt detective ( Duke Lacrosse Team case) or ladder- climbing D.A who wants to be a Judge..... ( Ryan Ferguson case) however- I do agree there are some totally shitty defense attorneys who are only in it for the money. Public defenders don’t get rich or notoriety for winning cases.... private defense attorneys do! There are a lot of innocent people who have their public defenders to thank for not being wrongly convicted. Just saying..... and Im pretty sure Jose Baez was paid big time for this case, and if not- It made his career..... there absolutely are unethical and immoral Public Defenders that is true.....
3 likes@Novascotia Skater yeah that was a bad take my bad
0 likes@Novascotia Skater ah. that makes sense
0 likes@An Ge *these
0 likesI get what everyone is saying, But its the lawyers job to defend and prove the suspect is innocent by all means thats there job. Sometimes they dont get to pick who the defend, this situation is tough but the justice system is broken so
0 likesI’ll sue you if you don’t tell us about how the jury are idiots because so many of them were on her side than you would’ve thought.
1 like•Casey lied to the police.
•She didn’t call the police but her mother had 1 month after.
•Casey was partying and not worried about her missing daughter.
•The police made 2 tests on her to see if she was a psychopath or narcissist and she wasn’t showing any signs of it even though she lied so well on the interviews that any normal person couldn’t have done.
•She was calm, annoyed and irritated about the police trying to help her.
@Tri Nguyen english is not my native language .. i never learned english in scool or something like that, i learned it all by myself by reading and singing english songs .. but hey thanx for the advise 😉
0 likes@Zal1810 laura linares I don't understand... Did that really happen or...?
0 likesthe lawyers have to go with what she tells them. thats their job. if she tells them the dad is a molester then thats what theyre going to argue. blame her, not them
3 likesTo the people blaming her parents, I think it's more than likely that they were in a state of denial. Imagine if you started finding evidence that one of your family members was a child murderer. You'd probably be in denial as well... at least for a while.
1 likeYeah, I can never understand how a person could spent so many years studying to become a lawyer yet lack basic human decency.
0 likes@Aden the justice system doesn’t care about personal bias and emotions. You can’t have an unbiased trial otherwise
2 likes999⁹8th?
0 likes@An Ge you are right. There is indeed a God in Heaven. Please dear Sibling believe on Jesus so that you may be one of the ones with Him.
0 likes"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
Mark 16:16 KJV
Love you and God bless you
The police did a wonderful job getting evidence for the trial. I can’t believe she got off. I hope the jury struggles with letting a child murder free for the rest of their lives. This woman is 100% guilty.
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The defense presented an alternative explaination that the prosecutors could not disprove. This alternative explaination would also explain why she lied. The defense agreed that she certainly had some majors screws loose(but said it in a way that would sound more sympathetic) and disputed the cause of death. Given that Casey was really messed up it is reasonable to believe that she would have acted the same if her daughter had drowned in the pool due what is ultimately negligent behavior on her part.
59 likesThe fact that she lied was no more than circumstantialt evidence regarding the charge of murder. They only proved that she had something to hide, but offered no direct proof on Caseys involvement in Caylees death.
@Gokaes She's about as innocent as Diane Downs.
51 likes@Andrew B From what I understand, most of the ''evidence'' was circumstantial
46 likesFor example knowing that Casey internet searched '''foolproof'' suffocation' looks very bad when you know the period of time which the search was made
@Gokaes shes as innocent as people who were caught doing the murder.
26 likes@Neena Yannelli no, nowhere close
2 likesShe’s free?!?!!?
8 likes@Gokaes You might be right, on the other hand the fact that the very judge of the case was shocked when the not guilty verdict was announced speaks volumes about the actual strength of the evidence.
41 likesAlso, some of the jurors of the trial publicly admitted afterwards that they should have pushed harder for a conviction on a lesser charge like manslaughter.
In any case, she lied to the police about a shit ton of stuff, waited a month to report her 2 year old missing (which probably would have been even longer if her mom wasn't involved), and never showed that she actually cared. It's obvious she was the definition of a neglectful parent which indirectly or directly caused the demise of her small child. Even if you are right and there wasn't any grounds for a murder conviction, in what world should a person like that not do any jail time, at least for a lesser charge like neglect or involuntary manslaughter? If you think that the just thing in this case was to set her free, I don't know what to tell you.
@George Xanthopoulos it was not the just thing.. but i am thinking of what might have caused the situation we have right now
4 likes@Gokaes her innonce levels are down there with OJ simpson's
20 likesThis court system is pathetic and biased.
10 likes@Andrew B aren’t Jurors just everyday people that are forced to missed work? Some of these commenters may have been jurors at one time. Lol
7 likes@Gokaes This woman is guilty. Maybe she didn't kill her herself but she DEFINITELY played a part. What mother waits a whole month to report her child missing? What mother goes out and parties without a care in the world while her child could be in danger?
28 likesShe should be behind bars and rot in a prison cell.
Crazy all the people who say she's innocent in this comment section also don't know how to type lol
14 likes@Andrew B i Think those searches on google are enough the day she died
5 likesAll you people saying no evidence....? Never reported her missing .... smoking weed watching TV when her parents came.... let the car get impounded with the smell of a dead body. The guy that supposedly introduced Casey to the nanny never worked with Casey never introduced her To the nanny and knew neither women. So many lies
13 likesIt was a filing error. Someone fucked up paperwork.
5 likesWell in American law there can’t be any reasonable doubt
4 likesIf there is any way the defendant could be innocent then they should be let go, not following reasonable doubt puts innocent people in jail
@Gokaes And yet they send completely innocent people to jail for years for crimes they didn't do. There's a video on that on this channel. Searching for methods to kill her daughter, lying, acting happier when her daughter was dead, not saying anything about it, and the cherry on top, a virtual confession in her journal, is enough evidence. I'm judging this by the fact that a jury decided that someone accusing someone else of housebreaking, then picking their face out of a lineup was enough, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Not to mention constant contradictions, both with her and her defense.
8 likesSPOILERS
0 likes@Jeremy Boushie that's circumstantial evidence in the eyes of the court
1 like@ulpetz maznat yes and in this case reasonable doubt didn't mean murder
2 likeslike someone else said In a different comment "if the charge has been less than capital punishment it would have been guilty sentence"
@Nathan Neering lmao
0 likes@Gokaes What you just said makes no sense at all.
1 like@ulpetz maznat well then what i meant was, she was accused of 1st-degree murder and was charged for that with the goal of getting her capital punishment, so death sentence and jury decided the evidence wasn't enough to doom her to death Sentence, but lets say if it was going just for life in prison they might have more likely said guilty
1 like@Gokaes I don't agree that that was the reason they found her not guilty. However, even if that was the case, then the jury still miscarried justice. I served on a murder jury before, genuinely, and you have to consider whether or not the person is guilty, NOTHING else. You are not allowed to consider the sentence as a juror. The sentence is up to the judge, and in Ireland (where im from) murder automatically carries 20 years in prison. In our case we found the man guilty of murder and the judge sent him to prison for 20 years. But he was ill, and one of the jurors was reluctant to cast her vote because we all knew the man would die in prison, until we pointed out to her that the sentence had nothing to do with us, only guilt/innocence. The murderer is dead now, he did less than two years in prison. If the jury in the Anthony trial decided to find her not guilty because they didn't like the death penalty then that was a serious miscarriage of justice because it is not their role. But i don't beleive that was the reason. It was unreasonable to believe that she did not murder her daughter, but her lawyer Baez kept saying "if you have ANY doubt" they should find her not guilty - the judge should have stepped in there and corrected him, but he didn't. I believe the jury were stupid and the defence manipulated them more than they should have been permitted to.
6 likes@ulpetz maznat she* judge was a woman
0 likes@L. Heth What? No, the judge was a man, Belvin Perry. Can you not google things before you go correcting others?
5 likesDid you not listen to a single thing the video explained to you? You overlook the fact of what was said and discovered? How she masked everything up because she was sexually abused by her dad? It became part of her character. Psychologists during the trial gave testimony as to how this works. Why she was unable to display emotion. Jeez, you really drink that koolaid huh
0 likes@Gokaes I agree, its really hard to accept the fact she pleaded ''not guilty to all charges'' , But at least We know that the court is being careful when it comes to cases like these. If I were falsely accused, I would be glad to know circumstantial evidence isn't enough to make me guilty.
2 likes@Leo Strife If she was sexually abused by her dad why wasn't he charged with that after the trial?
6 likes@Leo Strife The sexual abuse thing was found to be made up. The defense never discussed it again or presented evidence to support their claims. It would be like a lawyer starting their statement by screaming how the moon was made of cheese, and then moving on like nothing happened. You can ultimately say whatever you want, that doesn't make it true.
4 likes@ulpetz maznat It can come down to a couple of factors. One, statute of limitations has ran. Therefore he can no longer be charged criminally. Depends on the state and if they have a statute of limitations period for rape. Two, proving it. Proving it is very hard considering you have to have evidence. For example, time, place, were his actions enough to qualify as sexual assault? or sexual harassments? There are different degrees of the charges too. Aggravated sexual assault etc. The totality of the circumstances surrounding the event, case, etc all have to make sense. I think people forget that it is easy to say someone should go to prison for something, but difficult to remember that you're taking someone's life away. That's why you need 12 people to come to the same conclusion that you are guilty when presented with clear and convincing evidence providing beyond any reasonable doubt that the person is in fact guilty. He could have admitted to it and even that could not be enough. People confess to false crimes all the time. Things they didn't commit. It's a very hard standard. People get off on technicalities all the time. I mean, you could have direct DNA evidence, a confession, and if the time doesn't sync up with the time the crime was committed, you might be acquitted. Because a reasonable person would have a doubt that the person might not have been at the crime scene during that time at all if the evidence doesn't show a correlation. This is why trials take a long time... It isn't clear cut. People watching a quick video and come to a conclusion about something is like... thinking you know how the human body fully works both inside and out by attending a basic anatomy 101 class. Long story short, we pay intelligent people who went to law school a lot of money to do this kind of thinking for us.
1 like@KB 2020 That goes to both the defense AND prosecution. Clear and convicting evidence and beyond a reasonable doubt. Burden lies on the state.
0 likes@ everyone in this thread who disagrees with original commenter, y’all are the population who easily is cheated on by a spouse & lied to by family. Lol.
1 like@Mark Andresen She's as innocent as Courtney Love regarding Kurt Cobain's death, actually.
1 like@Mary Applecrumbles Sentence structure 101, they even offer that at your local high school?
1 like@Leo Strife what was unclear about what I said your royal highness? Let me crank out my best for some strangers on the Internet. MLA format and all. As if. Get off your high horse
2 likes@Hakan Karaağaç If someone isn’t 100% guilty without any reasonable doubt you can’t prosecute them. End of discussion
0 likes@Victoria Vivivolov actually you can. You mean sentencing?
4 likesI think sometimes the jury gets confused when a person doesn’t act the way a regular person would. Casey is a sociopath, so she’s not going to act like a regular guilty person. And they’re just like “ohhh… well now i don’t know what to think…”
1 likeIt’s one of the shortcomings of the jury system.
@ulpetz maznat the prosecution could not disprove the defense's theory thus there is clearly reasonable doubt. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Jose is an amazing lawyer, who looked at what the prosecution had and built a alternate theory that the prosecution could not discredit, its the good old discord tech in action. This man's been saving that shit for nationals.
1 likeI still cannot believe this vile woman got let off, how can the jury live with themselves, I really don't believe this happened, sometimes the justice system is wrong👎👎👎😭😭😭
1 likeI said it from day 1 when my friend and I were watching the case that she was going to get off. Why. The prosecution could not prove how or when she died.
1 like@Mark Andresen its not about if shes guilty, its if they prove that beyond a Reasonable Doubt. They had alot of evidence point directly towards her, but they couldnt actually stick it on her, they didnt have a smoking gun
0 likes@Mary Applecrumbles I like your opinion. But please, can you give me one for a better justice system that is fail proof on both ends? Putting guilty people in prison and one that doesn't put innocent people in prison.
0 likesthe detectives were really grilling her, and i loved it. they just knew she was guilty.
0 likes@Hakan Karaağaç nope. What he said is 100% true. Its tragic but would you rather live in a place where you are guilty until proven innocent? I sure as hell wouldn't.
0 likes@Mark Andresen where did he say she was innocent? Oh right, he didn't. Slow down and read it again. Knowing someone is guilty and proving it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law are two totally different things.
0 likes@Neena Yannelli where did he say she was innocent? Seriously do people have no reading comprehension?! He simply stated why she was acquitted. Being acquitted doesn't mean you're innocent. It just means your guilt couldn't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Do you believe people should be guilty until proven innocent? If so then a lot more innocent people will be locked up because of your lack of understanding.
0 likes@George Xanthopoulos so you think people are guilty until proven innocent? The prosecution did not prove the murder charge BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Ill repeat since apparently people can't understand it. BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. The jurors felt the evidence fit a manslaughter charge, too bad thats not what she was charged with. Jurors don't choose the charges. The prosecutor does. Jurors have to make a decision about guilt on the charges presented to them not the charges they feel fits best. I pray to God you are never a juror. You do not have the understanding of the very basics of the criminal justice system to do so.
0 likes@umungus depending on the charges, yes guilty till proven other wise. This women has tons of evidence against her. Guilty till proven guilty doesn't mean innocent people will go to jail. It means that until proven other wise, they are seen as a suspect. It's how the court works. This women should have been in jail for the Murder of her kid. This is how the court system fails people.
1 like@Mary Applecrumbles innocent. Until. Proven. Guilty. BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. the prosecutor couldn't prove the case. Couldn't prove intent. Couldn't prove how she did it. Knowing someone is guilty and proving it BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT are two different things. Maybe one day your brain will develop enough for you to understand such a simple concept but right now it seems youre just not capable of it.
0 likes@umungus no one suggested otherwise but evidence of her guilt is quite substantial while evidence of her childhood trauma is made up at last minute court scene level.
0 likes@Hakan Karaağaç cool, I dont give a fuck about the sexual abuse allegations. The evidence was circumstantial. They couldn't prove intent which is necessary for a murder charge, they couldn't prove how she did it and they couldn't prove that she was the one who actually did it. Circumstantial evidence should not be enough to execute someone. Circumstantial evidence leaves room for REASONABLE DOUBT. As some of the jurors have said publicly, they would have convicted her of manslaughter but that wasn't the charge presented to them. They couldn't prove she was guilty of murder. Knowing she's guilty and proving are two different things. When you grow up maybe you'll be able to grasp this simple concept.
0 likesIt was one juror held out and argued that because they can't prove how Caylee died it could've been an accident. They even told the court thos one juror seemed to have her own agenda but they left her in.
0 likes@Felix AP hmmm just went back through the thread and dont see anyone saying she is innocent. Its okay to admit you dont know how the criminal justice system works. I like how in your comment you advocate for circumstantial evidence to be enough to convict someone and then a few sentences later you do the opposite. I absolutely would have the same energy for that man because situations like that are exactly why we have innocent until proven guilty and exactly why I don't think circumstantial evidence is enough to convict. Just understand that in the first half of your comment you advocate for that man to be convicted even if there is reasonable doubt. Again I dont think this woman is innocent, but there is a difference between knowing someone is guilty and proving it in court. Try again.
0 likes@Gokaes I agree.
0 likesShe is guilty and I’m disgusted with the people who let her walk free
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@jaim haas Yeah, there simply wasn't enough evidence to make the charges they went with stick. A lower sentence would have stuck with virtual certainty.
42 likesUnfortunately, the prosecutors overcharged the case leaving no option to be found guilty of 2nd degree murder or less. While it’s quite probable that she premeditated the murder, the evidence wasn’t ironclad and her defense was able to poke holes into it, thus leaving room for reasonable doubt. I was disgusted as a member of the legal profession
64 likes@JEB As a member of the legal profession you should be very well disgusted with your slimey practice of plea bargaining as a short cut to prove the facts or make 12 involuntary jurors believe your spiel.
13 likesHer parents are high level Freemasons. Enough said.
14 likesThe google search is pretty damning. Absent of that I could see that maybe somebody else did it and Casey just doesn't care about her daughter at all or even thought "good riddance". But her doing a google search on how to suffocate a child on the same day that the child disappears, and when the child is found it was indeed suffocated .. combined with the foul smell in the trunk of her car , and the tattoo celebrating her freedom .. that leaves VERY little "reasonable doubt" ...
38 likes@biZZy bee I bet they had a personal line to the Jewish overlords too. XD
2 likes@ennuideblase agreed
1 like@Walter Alvarez No, they just tried to charge her for too much.
3 likesLOL but she is not guilty! You have any proof that she is?
0 likes@JEB They probably thought it was the easiest case they had ever tried...then came the zombie jury...
5 likes@SynValorum Yeah...my thoughts as well. Like the OJ Simpson case....the prosecturs can present all the evidence they want but the jury can simply say "not guilty..don't care about the facts.." Ridiculous
6 likes@Walter Alvarez Well,,,,they are simply a small selection of the public....SCARY!!
2 likesKevin L I just don’t understand though, so many of her statements were later proved to be lies, from her ever looking for Caylee, working at universal studios (she never ever had a job), to making up a fake person as her nanny. So fucking insane like how does that not scream guilty ? The criminal justice system is bullshit and useless
6 likesMe too they onlty did it because they feared she would be put to death.
0 likes@T H She didn't kill her daughter. She was found not guilty.
0 likes@Envy Tee being found not guilty does not mean she did not kill her daughter. Innocent people are found guilty and guilty are found innocent.
9 likesLast I heard... She was pregnant... But if this is true she's had the baby since... I think this was... Last year or so...
0 likes@SynValorum blaming the entire legal system on one guy, who has clearly stated he knows and is disgusted by such things, seems pretty silly. 97% of cases are pled out. It is not @J Bollen's fault.
1 like@biZZy bee that doesn't make sense. If they were manipulating the system, why did they go with "my father raped me" defense if he was the one pulling the strings? Also, they're estranged now so i don't think he appreciated the way that went down.
0 likes@JEB if you're a lawyer could you explain what you mean by that? They didn't just charge her with 1st degree murder, she was acquitted on multiple lesser charges as well down to the relatively minor "child endangerment". It seems to me like if they couldn't seal that then 2nd degree murder wouldn't have stuck either.
1 likeYou hit it on the nose,it’s so many things that portray her being responsible... so many things just can’t be a coincidence. It’s sad how some people are rotting in jail without a single piece of evidence while this bitch would walk free even if there was a video of her killing the child.
3 likesSad thing is the same thing could happen to the cop that killed Floyd. If they push 1st degree murder, he will walk free. 2nd degree murder and he might walk free. This is why its important for the public and the state to take their time on these trials. We, the public, get impatient and push for something to happen. With no evidence of Casey premeditating the killing of her daughter, there are no grounds for her to be charged with 1st degree murder. Same with that cop. Since the lab reports show a heart attack caused Floyds death and since he had drugs in his system that can cause a heart attack, even second degree murder will be tough to pin on him. Even though what he did was completely wrong, and not one person in this country sides with him, the state needs to be very careful how they proceed or we will have another Casey Anthony case on our hands. And that wont go over well with the current climate in our country. So I wouldn't be disgusted with the people who let her walk free. The jury did their job 100% correctly. I would be upset with the DA for how they started the case.
2 likes@Bjorn Ironsides the state didn't have neglect on the table. They wanted to put her on trial for 1st degree. The state screwed up on this one BIG time.
1 likeImagine caring
0 likesI watched the entire trial and predicted that she would be found not guilty towards the end. There is a lot this video leaves out. This trial was on like 12 hours everyday with a lot of testimonies. The state could not prove it's case and there was reasonable doubt. I still don't know what actually happened because the entire family is shady. Cindy and George were the ones who went on talk shows when it was over. The prosecutor was the one who wrote a book. All the things Nancy Grace said would happen didn't.
0 likes@castirondude And who cleaned all of the DNA out of the trunk? Why did Casey choose a location that was so close to the home when she could have gone on the highway and been surrounded by miles of forests. She is painted as this evil genius but at the same time doesn't know anything about suffocation. Those searches were also not made on the same day from what I recall and her mother said she was the one who looked up chlorophyll for work.
0 likes@Jessica Beltran If you watched the full trial, you may understand. There was reasonable doubt. Every piece of circumstantial evidence that was presented by the prosecution was debated.
0 likes@MarLaoutat's Gaming Collectibles She didn't search for those terms the day she died from what I remember. The defense argued that the tape was from the rest of the garbage in the area and they could not prove it was attached to the skull. The area where her body was found was flooded and a regular dumping site. There is so much this video left out in regards to the actual case.
0 likes@Backcountry Sass'n Not one person? After the bodycam was released? Don't go to the comments section of that video if you aren't prepared to have your worldview shattered. The officers have a very good chance of walking.
0 likesYou mean the bailiff?
0 likesThe jurry let her off cause her DNA wasn’t on the duct tape. There were too many holes in the case surrounding how Caylee was actually murdered. I still think it’s bullshit
0 likesI'm on my 45834 rewatch, and i just noticed, Casey had a brother.
2952 likesHe sounds completely checked out of the situation, it seems he has a lifetime of experience dealing with his sister's bullshit and their parent's enabling. He sounded so done with everything.
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I agree. The way they spoke is so telling, it sounds almost exasperated. Like this is all-too typical of her and her behavior. I wish they would have questioned him on her behavior as a child to prove the pattern of manipulating and lying.
322 likesYeah her brother and best friends reaction would make me super suspicious if I was the hearing that on the jail phone
140 likesSame here! And you're right, he definitely seems fed up with his sister's nonsense. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't keep in touch.
58 likes@Yngwar if your daughter is born on March 10 what are you going to do?
56 likes@Yngwar lmao ok bud
65 likes@Yngwar Male Pisces too. Too many bad encounters to say otherwise. 😳
12 likes@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie so you think a vast amount of people are inherently bad specifically because the month they were born in?
70 likes@Wonton's YouTube channel allergy season. Makes sense to me
21 likes@Avery Young If you are so unlucky to have a daughter Pisces - I advise to help her grow up as an actress. If she polymorphs, lies and pretends - lets convert it to a nice job. Also they will thank you for parties, money, celebrities, bright life and all this stuff.
7 likes@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie No, male Pisces are a different story. They're just macho man. Like James Bond or John McClane. Their obsession of being looked as the real man is annoying as hell. But it's harmless. In fact these guys are vulnerable and emotional.
1 likeOk
0 likes👌🏻
0 likes@Yngwar stop talking about zodiac signs giant balls of combustion in space light years away have nothing to do with your life. You blaming an entire group of people, approximately 333 million people, for the action of a slim portion that you’ve met is 1. ignorant and 2. shameful
45 likesConsidering how the moon does influence people, and we are in a electromagnetic environment where frequencies are very important, you should reconsider and verify the model you are describing first.
2 likes@Yngwar Ahh yes, the position of stars from our point of reference in the universe caused her to lie this much. Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up
18 likesI’ve watched this trial 45,835 times so there 🤣
2 likesCan you give timestamp?
0 likesThe brother was so full of the BS. And when the lawyer told the story of Casey's dad abusing her as a child, the first thing that came to my mind was that he probably didn't, as accepting a lie like that being told of him to save his little princess went so well with all the other enabling the parents have done all her life...
1 like@Yngwar what’s your take on Virgo females? You’re spot on about Pisces males btw
0 likesme too - that little kids face haunts me . What a gorgeous gift she was & i hate tge way her mum behaved infuriates me & she can it seems flirt her way out of many issues.
3 likes@UnderclassRising neither is white privilege but that doesn’t stop some people from believing in it.
1 like@Yngwar lmao theyre mad at you for talking ab astrology but i agree she does have some very underdeveloped pisces traits. Male pisces have these traits for sure too though
1 like@Drewski you need to understand exaggeration.
1 like@Yngwar Pisces ♓ can, indeed, lie easily. I was as manipulating and conniving in my 20's....when I needed to explain away my "sins" to convince others that I was a victim of circumstance...I always blamed the men in my life...Now, I look back in sheer horror at my past, having surrendered "self" to our only Lord and Savior...I feel like the Picture of Dorian Gray. So, the greatest punishment is living with one's self. Try to be there for your sister...she does love you.
0 likes@Yngwar Elizabeth Taylor would agree.
0 likes@On The Edge Yes...White privilege is insane...Charles Dickens would die laughing since, as a form of sociologist, he wrote about the horrendous poverty in the UK and the harsh abuse suffered by little children at the hands of indutrialists..."David Copperfield" "Oliver Twist" and other books that depict the extreme child labor conditions.
1 like@Yngwar astrology has legitimacy to it, you're oversimplifying it way too much though. We all have different ratios of all 12 energies and we're all a lot more than just our sun signs. Unevolved people with a lot of strong water can be pretty manipulative, yeah, but its certainly not a rule of thumb and trying to lump every pices in that group is just wrong.
1 like@UnderclassRising you've got a lot to learn man
0 likes@Brigitte Beltran I come from central Scotland and my lovely grandfather was working down a coal mine and 12 years old 😥
0 likes@Wompbozer You also have a lot to learn, good luck
0 likes@MCΔT You’re so wise and knowledgeable about unobservable phenomenon that I’m awestruck by your amazingness. That’s really cute kid. There’s cookies and cool aid in the corner when you’re done playing astrology.
3 likes@Yngwar you really think the position of a star allows you to assume that someone is a pathological liar and an egoist, astrology is such bs
3 likes@Rasta Fahrer yeah we are in an electromagnetic field but how does that change anything also frequency of what
1 like@MCΔT please break it down for me I can understand what energies?electricity ,what is strong water what does unevolved people mean?
2 likes@John frum oh yeah, and unevolved is another way to say immature
0 likes@John frum it' s influencing us.
0 likesThe science fiction model promoted is not accurate, our environement is the contrary of what people think.
A very important topic. Everyone should verify or falsify the reality they are presented by the status quo
It makes me sad the answers to this turned into astrology war because looking away from star signs, this is a well known abusive situation known as Golden Child and Scapegoats, where one sibling is loved by the abusive parents, given every right, and never disciplined, while the other plays literal scapegoat, being faulted for everything the GC does, yelled at for every little thing, justified or not
0 likesUsually, the scapegoat will resent the entire family, and the GC will turn out to be a horribly entitled human being who never realizes what they've lived through, while the parents turn into those "MY ANGEL WOULD NEVER DO SUCH THINGS" type
@Princc Elijah again, you gotta use it in tandem with other principles of psychology. It not even remotely a perfect tool, but it can be very useful. This is less an astrology case and more a horrible parenting case, I agree with you. Some people would be more susceptible to that sort of damadge than others, thats the metric that astrology would be able to partially indicate.
0 likes@Yngwar I don't think this fits for Kurt Cobain at all 🤷♀️
0 likes@MCΔT I can’t comment on the astrology water signs part of your reply because I don’t know enough about but the sun doesn’t change in any significant way to cause vitamin d deficiency the only thing that matters is if you stay out in the sun long enough,the neighboring planets are to far away to affect us ,and I found a study saying that magnetic fields are perceived by humans unconsciously,they can drop alpha waves in the brain but quickly recover after a few seconds like other stimuli but they were not noticed consciously.also I have tried acupuncture and it didn’t work for me.
0 likes@John frum My point with the sun was just to demonstrate a way that it effects us, certain times of the year theres more weather and youd get less sunlight which could have an effect but thats not really my point. "They're too far away to have an effect" is just not true, Venus and Jupiter in particular have a big impact on our weather and the wobble of the earths orbit (which effects the magnetic field), and yeah, most of the effects it would have would be subconscious, your subconscious is a big part of who you are and your behavior.
0 likes@MCΔT well I’m not gonna discuss about the affect of Jupiter and Venus magnetic fields anymore ,but is the wobble you are talking about the 405,000 years cycle?
0 likes@John frum that would be the one. It completes after 405,000 years, but during that entire time there are miniscule shifts. Caused by other planets. To the way that our planet moves. Which dictates the tiny little fluctuations in the magnetic field that is a result of the spin of our iron core. Are you trying to learn or disprove me, because you're not doing a good job of either.
0 likes@MCΔT im just trying to understand why people believe in astrology
1 like@Yngwar excuse me!!!!!!😂🤣😂🤣
0 likes@MCΔT you really have the audacity to talk about astrology on a video about a child being murdered. You’re so disconnected from reality it’s sad and I’m not referring to astrology but the fact you think this is appropriate
4 likes@Jomamasuks read the whole thread dude
1 like@Jomamasuks its not like its the childs fucking funeral, its a youtube comment section. Relax. There's a thousand other comments talking about how horrible and tragic this is, you wanna focus on that go read them. This is a psychology video, its a case study on the behavior of this woman. Its not a memorial to the victim.
1 like@MCΔT so you do have no morals you got other things to think about than astrology my guy
0 likes@MCΔT no you’re just a bad Person face it and I will not continue to speak on this matter since this is about Poor kaylee and we should respect that
2 likes@Jomamasuks I hope you figure out those self confidence issues buddy
1 like@MCΔT lmaoo you’re too funny have a blessed new years eve tho
1 like@Jomamasuks that's kind of insensitive, kaylee isnt gonna get to experience this new year. The fact that you thought it was ok to say that really shows your complete lack of morals. This is about little kaylee, not either of our lives.
0 likes@MCΔT wow so you’re actually even a worse being that I thought that’s sad
1 like@Jomamasuks I'm just imitating you my friend, gross isn't it? Have a magical new year
0 likes@MCΔT exactly my point lmao
2 likesThis video is 67 minutes long
2 likes67×45834=3070878 minutes
That is 51181.3 hours
There are 8760 hours in a year
This video came out a year and 4 months ago
That is 11 687.7504 hours long, still not enough time to watch this video the amount of times you claim
Seeing as there are 8760 hours in a year you would have to watch this vid for about 5.2 years (45834÷hours in a year 8760)
Unless you are from the future, you have lied to all of us...hope you can sleep at night knowing how you just lied smh 😤🧐
He instantly knew she was full of shit. I don’t think anybody in this world would go 30 minutes without calling the police. An entire month? What was she thinking. She really thought people would believe her, and in the end they actually did. Crazy
0 likesif it took you that long to notice then you’re not really paying attention, you’re just wasting your time
0 likesMy sister has the same behaviors as her oO
0 likesI feel bad watching such a well-made analysis for free. Great job, man.
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It's still possible to support them on Patreon! I gladly pay a buck a month even without exclusive content.
23 likesIs his patreon posted?
1 likeIt's okay, he got that youtube $
0 likesI know others have already said this but I also recommend paying for his Patreon. The additional content is great and as you implied the channel does deserve to be compensated for the quality content it puts out.
1 likeNothing is for free in life, except true love.
1 likeYall giving this man like, 40k a month from patreon yk that?
1 likePatreon
0 likesmc thuggin that’s great, it’s not bad to support someone by paying only 1 dollar
4 likes@mc thuggin it's actually a team of people. Try being happy for other's success instead of angry or envious, it will change your life.
5 likesChristina: crying if something happened to that little girl, I'll die.
1556 likesCasey: ugh calling you guys was a WASTE. Huge waste.
It's scary how cold she becomes when she shows her true colours. The way she acted throughout this investigation alone is enough to show she's guilty. Now add to that all the lies about the babysitter, the 31 day waiting period, the google search, the decomposition smell in her trunk, and the lack of remorse... It's disgusting that she walked off free. The only real emotion she displayed was when she was found not guilty, because she only cares about herself.
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i work here at nickalodeon
58 likespolice go there bring her- oooo ummmm that was a total lie i dont work here
i gave my kid to a nanny called zanny
police look in to it- ooooo that was a lie to ....she doesnt exist.
i met the nanny from this guy
guy comes to court- yeah ive never met this person, and i have no kids and no nanny.
car smells like a dead body ....impounded.
kid is found dead with her personal stuff from the house.
google search results confrim searched phrases of ( suffication, total suffication, ect) <---basically how to instructions on how to murder
casey goes free.
this is the BIGGEST fail of justice ive ever seen in my life. ever
you forgot the fact that she lied to the police about everything and yet managed to be let go free...
23 likesShe isnt even a good liar, just a confident one.
35 likesI think that phone call and this statement, was when I first hated Casey! Really hating her. Probably hated her beforehand but this spoke volumes!
5 likesIt's the most corrupt thing I've ever seen.
3 likesI'm sick to my stomach 🤢🤮
1 like@bladoody scabloody I honestly can't believe it!!!
1 likeIs this real life???
exactly you can tell by the extra random details she added.
0 likesAgree totally that she only cares about herself. She's most upset in the video call when her parents talk about their love for her etc but not about her missing daughter 😭😭
0 likesI admit I’m late on this horrible story of the Casey Anthony and that her poor sweet daughter appearing deceased. I couldn’t watch this story cuz its so horrible. As a mother and having ,my worst fear is my child becoming missing. I just could not watch. It was too horrible for me. Anyway, that being said, Casey Anthony seems jealous of her daughters relationship she had with her parents. Casey always showed emotion when her parents showed her love and concern. I believe she made up that molestation about her father. I can not believe she was found not guilty!! She is so guilty! Not guilty on all accounts!?? Really!?? That’s nuts. Casey is so fake and goes along with whatever she wants to believe. Its like she’s trying to manifests how she wants her life to be like. #CaseyAnthonyGuilty
0 likesShe is guilty
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Without a question
2 likesHow the fuck did she beat that case I need that lawyer asap
0 likesShe's still on the loose, be careful whoever lives nearby
0 likesLady reminds me of Amber Heard lmao, tone of her voice, excuses…. Smh
2 likesThe jury must be smoking the same thing she was
0 likesThus lawyer is even more guilty than Casey
0 likes"Juliette Lewis" is the actress who starred "Natural Born Killers" in 1992.
0 likesI gotta say it, damn do I miss blockbuster.
0 likesinteresting that she called her own home instead of tone, which is her boyfriend.
0 likesdon't you know your boyfriends number?
She'd make a superb politician.
0 likesEverything she says feels like a fever dream idk wtf she's saying lmao
0 likesdefense attorneys i hope youre okay now. karma surely will come for you too
0 likesThere's Something About Casey...
0 likesIt sure isn't hair spray.
How the fuck is she not guilty??
2 likesi’m in the st petersburg - tampa area and i’ll be waiting to catch her.
1 likeSo nobody asked the obvious question after the fact, wtf happened to Caylee? This is just fucked up. Sure Casey isn't to blame legally I suppose but how did a murder spiral into this? Theres still a murderer if were to assume Casey isn't the murderer. This was never about Casey, this was about bringing justice to the person who murdered Caylee. And to that, they pretty much failed because they never caught anyone -_-
0 likesI’m late to the show here but Casey’s initial phone call with her mom, brother, and friend is absolutely appalling. Her friend cared more about finding Caylee than her own mom did. Casey’s annoyance with them is disgusting.
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Yeah like the devastation and then caylee just going “GhaWd YoU guYs WeRe So UseLeSs tO CaLl UGhggUgh”
76 likes@The PJ Experience That's a really bad bait mate
53 likes@The PJ Experience so ur basically saying that murdering your own child is okay because "you created it"
35 likes@Mateusz Jokiel ive seen nintendo fans think on the same level as this guy so it's possible hes serious.
2 likesEdit: nevermind they've been posting this everywhere
@The PJ Experience And yet, you're somehow still here.
2 likesThe twist is "Caylee was Christina's baby"
3 likes@SYED I ASHAR Was she? £'ll watch
0 likes@Niko Las She had to be. I mean what kind of woman would kill her baby, keep the corpse in trunk.
2 likesDidn't you noticed how Christina was pleading with her "I will die .. you know I will die without her"
@Heath Lockwood ikr
0 likesShe is a sociopath. What did you think? Also she used to be an innocent 3 year old. How does she go from that to sociopath? Who raised her? Think in an unbiased manner.
1 likeI want to believe the parents were trying to manipulate her to find the baby… but they’re the ones who created this monster
2 likes@Mimi Brown It's unfair to blame them for this... really unfair.
3 likes@Jonas Cox-Leow i’m not blaming them… Just stating they had a hand in creating her unaccountable behavior. Did you hear the narrator state how they cover up her failing school? They gave her a graduation party and told everyone she graduated with honors. What do you think that taught her?
5 likes@ Dill P. The frantic voice you heard, not Casey's voice obviously, was the voice of the grandmother, Casey's mother.
1 like@Mimi BrownI was just thinking the exact same thing Mimi. That was a strange thing to do, to throw a fake graduation party for a high school drop out! My parents would have been furious with me if I had lied to them in this way. I certainly wouldn't have been given a party. So, Casey's lying was being reinforced, and you have to wonder why her parents did that and how long it went on. What is also strange is that the mother KNOWS that her daughter is quite capable of lying, because she's been doing it for years, but she still chooses to believe Casey's story. But, to be fair, she would want to believe it. This is so strange.
2 likesOf course Casey didn't care about finding Caylee. She knew Caylee was not missing and was already dead.
0 likesIf the investigator had asked Casey about childhood sexual abuse by her father, they could perhaps have got a confession. Her defense could then have used negligent upbringing in her defense as well, and her father, who seems strangely peripheral in the documentary, wouldn’t have skated.
0 likesYou’ll say I can’t know, and this is true, I can’t. But 12 years in psychiatry taught me to recognize certain patterns. If the hypothesis holds up, her father taught her all her »impossible« character traits: That little girls' life don’t matter, to wear a bland face under unbearable stress, to become a proficient liar aso. Oh and her mother knew – at least subconsciously, but chose not to . That’s why Casey could get away with the truancy and have her mother cover for her.
Was Casey’s daughter ever DNA tested? The father could be the big surprise…
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Oh, she did tell her defense about the abuse. Well, I think its obvious…
0 likesLet’s start again from the beginning Casey.
0 likesPLEASE POST MORE VIDEOS
0 likesThe defense was too good man.
0 likesPut me in a room with her along with a board and a jug of water and we'll find the damn TRUTH!!!......oh shit, we're in America :/......DAMN. Unsolved cases till the end of time in the USA :/
0 likesIt’s like she thinks she’s a teenager still. It’s weird..
1 likeWell, she is guilty and will have to go in front of God. There, she will be judged
0 likesPisses me off that Casey is still alive. What's wrong with this world.
0 likesNobody gets away with anything…every dog has its day.
0 likesShes so cold to Christina wow. Thats nit an answer u give when u love your child she murdered her what a tragedy
0 likesShe killed her daughter and got away with it.
0 likesNobody is going to pay attention to the fact that she was found NOT GUILTY?!
0 likesWho & where was Caylee's father???...
2 likesWTF, she's on liberty? I'm in awe
1 like50:50 HOW IS THAT NOT THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN
1 likenah, anyone and even her parents should have and would have if you had (regular common sense & any amount of being observant) would have went straight to police /detectives letting them know that our visit was off and i know she did it, knows who did it, knows where she was and to go deeper with her bullshit and play her own game
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or knows who did it**
0 likesPoor grandma. Poor little soul.
0 likesDamn she lies like there’s no tomorrow
0 likesthese investigators are jokers !!
1 likewait how did she walk what a psyco
1 likehe has another channel "J C S" it has 4 more videos the last was posted 2 months ago. I'm not sure if he's continuing the channel there but I hope it gets figured out.
0 likesUnbelievable court ending
0 likesI hate her light hearted causal facade she casts during all these interviews.
0 likesat the end her parents pay the price of hide the shame based on lies. This talk for itself, they create a monster
0 likesGod, I wish Casey Anthony wasn't so pretty. It really obscures my view of what a monster she really is. Also, Juliette Lewis is a famous actress.
0 likesTodays lessons “ money buy justice “
0 likesthat lawyer did some saul goodman shit
0 likes"Breaking News: Child Murder is now legal in the state of Florida"
0 likesThis is infuriating. This guy (Creator of the video) should've represented the state in this case.
0 likesI pray theres a God for the sole reason that Casey and her Lawyers will one day meet his judgement
0 likesA B OR T I O N S
3 likesIt's literally that simple 😔
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Or placing a child for adoption. It’s that simple.
1 likeso, to sum it up: it was a bad batch of jury this time
1 likei scare to see some teens so apatic to everything god help children please
0 likesWhile burning in hell, Hitler probably looked up at this trial and smiled for just a moment, knowing at least there was one person worse than him after all
0 likesANALYZE AMBER HEARDS BEHAVIOR DURING THE TRIAL PLEASE
1 likeStone cold. I just hope the child didn't suffer much.
0 likesThe grandparents are also as much responsible for this. For enabling this behaviour. I mean, hosting fake graduating party?? Wtf??
0 likesShe murdered her daughter and got away with it.
0 likesJose baez, listening to him talk...felt like i was listening to Satan in a suit.
1 likewhaaaaaaat!!!!!! that is crazy to find her not guilty!!!!
0 likesIs "evil" created or born?
0 likesBruh I love this dude
0 likesDamn those Jury all concluded not guilty for all the charges wtf. Most cases are carried through empathy for the victim, but instead this case carried through empathy for the suspect.
0 likesWhat was her parents net worth?
0 likesBro… A half-hour of subtitles. Either multiple people worked on this, or someone was very tired after posting this.
1 likeYo I need her attorney 💀💀💀
1 likeSeeing the video cover , I thought she was Elizabeth Holmes in dark hair 🧐
0 likesHorrible as this case is, much of it is hard to hear and imagine. I had to stop it at 58:00 because of what was said at 57:30. I could not make it to the end of the program.
0 likesHer friend starts crying on the phone about Caylee, and Casey is like "omg whyyy do i even like put UP with you peopleeee"
6992 likesInsane.
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Pure evil.
342 likesThis is just so bizarre.
214 likesI felt so bad for her friend you can tell she loved that child more than her own mother loved her
579 likesThat infuriated me. People can be so evil
155 likesThat made ma so sad. That friend sounded more maternal than her own mother in infinite ways.
153 likesOh God yes! She wasn't even interested in her own child.
45 likes@Hollylivengood she also said. They were useless. Because she knows she's dead
67 likesThis is evil indeed
20 likesSociopathic behavior.
45 likesthe friend cares more about the kid. Casey just wants to talk to Mr Wonderful boyfriend, while her kid is now moldering in a field somewhere.
66 likesYes...That said a lot right there.
7 likes@A D Not all people. Just the psychopaths. It's their fault many of us think there's something seriously wrong about human race. Almost all the most violent crimes are their handwriting, either directly or non-directly.
14 likesi had to pause at that moment, and find the comment section.
9 likesI actually started tearing up from empathizing w/ the friend, and laughed at the same time. Her crazy is literally making me crazy.
Right! Just listening to her I feel like she's absolutely insane!
3 likesIm hard to emotion but that teared me up
7 likes@Steben Velasquez u realize psychopaths still have emotions right?
5 likes#Justice4Caylee
6 likesBroke my heart
1 like@A D not a person a thing that is evil
0 likesThis was the worst part. Idk how anyone can deny this
2 likesI feel so bad for the friend. Honestly,it sounds like she cared for caylee way more that Casey could
2 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
3 likesThe demon that resides inside was celebrating after the verdict but the real verdict is yet to come..
2 likes@azsuter I can agree with that. We are very emotional people, and like everyone else I think Casey is guilty, and wishes there had been enough evidence to convict. Even though the circumstantial evidence all points to Casey, the defense.planted enough reasonable doubt. What I do not understand, however, is why they didn't find her guilty of any type of neglect.
1 like@Megan M Because she didn't neglect her. She gave her to her nannnnnnyyyy.
2 likesPure fucking evil
0 likes😢 the friend loved her more than her own mother
0 likeshow did she get away with that
0 likesThe police should frame these kind of people like they France blwck people. That monster is free, and probably living the american life rn. Good bless America
0 likesShe lies so much lmao
0 likesHOW THE FUCK WAS SHE NOT FOUND GUILTY
0 likesi dont get how psycholgoists did not see that she is a sociopath...im still completing my degree in psychology but if you know energy like i do you know that this woman is evil and has no care and is such a sociopath. her diary entry and the partying is fucking disturbing. if i lost my daughter or if she went missing i would fucking go krazy as hell. i mean it is such common sense. those psychologists should find a new profession. i wish this video could have been seen earlier. this is just so disturbing
0 likesI saw Casey at a bar in downtown west palm beach on st Patrick’s day last year and everyone was cussing her out calling her a murderer and it pisses me off she’s free but it was great to see a mob of people yelling at her
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I imagine she gets that everywhere she goes. She’s NATIONALLY known. She may not be behind bars but people will always remember what she did and in a way I imagine she’s in her own personal hell because of it. In a way you can argue that it’s justice served because in prison I’d imagine she wouldn’t have mobs of people calling her out like the general public would.
89 likes@Pidgeon Man No, she loves the attention. I’m from Orlando, she’s straight up evil. If she really was in hell she wouldn’t have the audacity to be constantly partying and putting herself in clubs that post pictures online. Literally every picture of her is her smiling and laughing ear to ear.
95 likesThere’s no justice for her poor baby girl.
@Kayleigh Earl well that’s disheartening.
7 likesShe moved to Martin County and had to move 3 times as people found out where she lived. Put signs up out front. Constantly stood outside and abused her. Sick, twisted person.
25 likes@Kayleigh Earl As she gets old she won't be as recognizable and people may forget her name.
11 likes@V I I hade a seizure trying to understand what you just typed
50 likes@Caspar Nuel 😂
1 likeWhat was her reaction? 😂
0 likes@V I Are you okay?
1 like@Christine Whatever No you wouldn't!!
0 likesShould have gotten her number..
1 likeHow did she react in this situation ? Did she give any fucks at all I wonder
1 likeSo many assasins out there; can't anyone get her in there scope and deny her the right she denied her child 🤔
3 likesThis is my favorite comment, wish i could give you a million likes
2 likesShe definitely did it or her boyfriend. I wish they would’ve questioned him or something. Maybe I missed it but they barely spoke about him with the child.
2 likes@James the guilty don’t feel guilty, they learn not to
0 likes@mark2073 Doubt it as there are many underground organisations that track these people just to keep he current profile updated and to inform the public. This will stay with her till her dying day when she WILL meet the ultimate judge.
0 likesNOT GUILTY?????!!!!! WHAT???
1 likeWhen I was 10 or 11 I went to America and went to universal studios, I went on the Incredible Hulk ride (one of the best) and I remember this lady where our pictures was, weird
0 likesNo no no ….. you team rioted the case in lie. You won on lie.
0 likes48:28 Literally looks like the Grinch
2 likesPoor guy. Getting called a incestuous pedophile by his daughter in an attempt to get away with killing his granddaughter, is beyond evil.
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not in an attempt. she succeeded. she framed herself as the victim and got away with killing that little girl
89 likes@Raven Eskridge fuck bro... You're right. Who drugged this jury?!
70 likesThis is what you get when amateurs who have no legal education what so ever decide who is guilty and who's not. The whole concept of jury is weird to me. It's not that hard for professional lawyers and prosecutors to mislead a jury.
60 likes@pyllywaltteri It also has to do with how these trials work in the United States in the first place.
33 likesIn other countries, you do the trial, see what happened then decide what the person is guilty or not guilty of. - In the US you decide what to charge the person with BEFORE the trial. So a person who gets charged for 1st degree murder can't be convicted for 2nd degree murder or whatever. If you decide to charge with 1st degree murder, then it has to be 1st degree murder. It's pretty stupid in general.
Ikr?? I wanna know how her father would say after hearing that and does it really true?
6 likesMaybe that was the only true part of her story.
0 likes@pharkasj bro...
2 likesyes?
0 likes@pharkasj why even put that out there bro
2 likesPapa Joe hug?
1 likeShe should have been an actress. She's fucking nuts.
1 likeso the only theory i can come up with if she didnt kill her daughter, she found her daughter lifeless in a pool, her built up anxiety kicked in, didnt call the police, instead wrapped duck tape around her, put her in a garbage bag, and dumped her into the trash, and had the delusion that nothing was going to happen because it is proven anxiety does cause people to be untethered from reality, or delusional. its not that far fetched if considering that her dad really did sexually abuse her and forced her not to tell anyone.
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how do u explain the Google searchs she made?
1 likeSuch a pretty soul to be so black on the inside. RIP to her baby girl
0 likesCould you imagine being called to court to testify for someone that you only know as an acquaintance who attempted to use your name in order to cover-up a murder. Wild.
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That would be my luck, honestly.
30 likesOh. I thought Casey was Amber Heard…
1 likeWhere did she even get these names from cuz the nanny was made up and other people where also she's such A weirdo!!!!!!!
1 likeYeah, but the jury was from Orlando, FL.....so
0 likes45:25.. She is about to confess the whole thing!!! Then Detective bonehead walks in.."Hyuck hyuck.. whatcha talkin bout?" God I about screamed at the computer when I saw that!
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How was the detective to know it was a bad moment?
0 likes@Disciple Watching the interview as it is happening, then inserting when strategic.
0 likesI know very little about this case... but, wtf. "Sweetheart, darling, gorgeous?" And throwing her a fake "graduation party?" These parent's are hard-core enablers to her demented self. They all make me sick.
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truly
18 likesabsolutely!
5 likesYea definitely enablers but you also have to feel for them, imagine knowing more than probable that your daughter has murdered their own child. I wouldn’t know what to think about life anymore.
61 likesYeah. The mother/grandmother is the worst and the father/grandfather allowed it.
5 likes@Steven Diaz also keep in mind that they now don’t have a grandchild to love either so Casey while being a monster is all they have left to give love to really
11 likesIf it was them that paid for the shark lawyer, then they should be tried for negligence leading to the death of their granddaughter, and aiding and abetting their daughter in evading justice. It all rests on them. Enablers have to understand that when you enable someone to do terrible things, it's on you too, though usually to a lesser degree. If they paid for the lawyer that got her off, then it's all on them. They knew their daughter well. You can tell when her mother wanted to see her eyes. She's seen that reaction before many many times. Before she suspected, at that point she knew, and so did her dad.
10 likesYep. Her behaviour should’ve been reined in years ago, she’s been enabled to lie and get away with it since a young age. No excuse, but this behaviour could be been stopped, and a child would not have died,
7 likes@Si74l0rd of course, I mean - the mom knew when they called 9-11.. the care smelled funny? come on.. the only thing she was hoping was that it was an accident.
4 likesDude what?!? Yes they were enablers to some bad behaviors, but they had no hand in her becoming a murderer of her own daughter. They clearly were distraught and left with a difficult decision of loving their daughter unconditionally and hating the primary suspect in the case of their grand daughter’s death. I’d never wish that on any grandparent, let alone try to establish blame on them.
20 likes@Si74l0rd You obviously don't have children. Your attempts at "reining them in" only go so far. At some point, every individual's life becomes 100% their own.
9 likesThere are spoiled children who have been given everything who become entitled ingrates, and there are children who had nothing become unforeseeably successful - and every combination in between.
Also, they raised Casey and they probably fully suspect her for killing her daughter. But they can't ever forget their memories of her as a baby and all the past they had with her. She is still their daughter. Those emotional constraints, for normal people, are incredibly difficult to sever. They will always see Casey as their little girl. I can understand their conflict, even though I believe Casey is about as close to a soulless killer as one can get.
@Dwight Renfield It's exactly because I do have kids that I hold this opinion. It's my job to raise them right. You're right that not all kids are the same, but one thing guaranteed to screw up an upbringing is a lack of rules and a lack of attention to your kids.
4 likesThere will always be some people that are broken, but I don't believe Casey started out that way. I strongly suspect it's learned behaviour, and was born from attention seeking as a kid, and not getting attention whether positive or negative. The fact they let her lie with impunity is what caused her eventual issues though. If people call bullshit every time you spin a tale, it soon stops happening. When your kid doesn't want to lie to you because they know you know, when they do. That I have experience of, as a parent. It's irresponsible not to raise a kid right, when you brought them into the world. If you can't do it, give them to someone who will. Plenty of them out there. As I said, Casey could have handed custody to her parents, she knew that, her parents knew that. But instead she killed her. It's because I'm a parent that I apportion them some of that blame. Supporting your child doesn't mean supporting their lies!
Edit: For the record, my kids know, because I have told them throughout their lives that I will fight for them like a mama bear, but they also know that I insist on knowing the situation up front. I refuse to be blindsided in a confrontation because I was fed a story. So my kids don't lie to my face, and right or wrong, I'll stand with them. But that means in this situation I'd have driven her down to the station, I'd have sat with her in the interview room, and I'd have used every bit of my influence to get the truth of the matter out. And then I'd stand by her and visit weekly until she got out, or was executed. I'm no holy roller, but if you want peace of mind and something of a life moving forward then you have to shed baggage like that. The truth will set you free, and it would have been better for her had she told the truth. And better for her parents, and better for her dead daughter. There's nothing good come of this at all. Someone who could have been straightened out is likely forever lost. As a parent that saddens me.
As for bad behaviour in general, almost every kid has a rebellious phase, and that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the 12 years prior to that when you had an opportunity to set up a solid foundation.
Mainly to me the culpability of her parents rests upon who paid for the shark lawyer. If it's her parents, they're fully as bad as she is. I can't see it any other way. A lawyer like that is hired at great expense, for the sole purpose of getting shady characters off. You've already lost the case in my eyes at that point. Doubly so if the parents paid, when the first thing he did was accuse her father of child molestation. I have no time for legal games. I have morality. As far as I'm concerned neither she nor her parents have any morality at all.
As much as I love my kids, I would want justice for the person they murdered. It's who I am. It's how I raised my kids. It's ok to fuck up. Admit it, resolve the issues that come up as a result. Move on with a clear conscience and without that baggage. Enabling is a cowardly act designed to sooth your own denial about what someone has become, but on that level it's despicable.
The granndparents are victims as well. Lies poisoned the family.
3 likesI partially agree, but remember at this point their main goal was to find Caylee. And it makes sense that they thought that they would get the most information if they used an empathetic angle. And no one, not even the most no-nonsense, rational people would want to believe their child could be so evil.
4 likeskinda makes me wonder if they were over compensating for her father touching her
0 likesI'm sure her father could not say to anything she wanted for fear of going to jail
0 likes@Si74l0rd You make excellent points.....do you think the father said to the lawyer.....go ahead and throw me under the bus (the sexual accusations) if it saves my daughter?
0 likesYou all act like you could all be so logical and detached during a horrendously traumatic experience like this
0 likesI believe the parents coordinated with the police to get more info out of her. And being nice is how to get people off guard so that they accidentally give off hints
2 likesit doesn’t sound like she was saying “sweetheart” in a enabling way. i think that she just talks like that
3 likes@John Johnson tf? You just gonna take a child murderer at her word?
1 likeoh they paid for their decisions... I can only imagine how much hearth ache or how much they blame themselves for their grand daughter's death. The mother sure aint.
1 likeYes they did enable her but why do you expect them to just give up their daughter and treat her like sh? (especially when as parents, they want to believe that she's innocent). They could've done a better job at raising her but an individual's behaviour depends on their surroundings (home/school/work/friends/acquatances whatever). Blaming the parents is a bit too harsh.
1 like@Shuaib Ahmed lol ‘be depressed the rest of my life’ like that’s just supposed to be fine
0 likesEveryone is an expert until it happens to them. Text book parenting does not exist! Perfect parenting does not exist.
1 likeYou can raise your children up the best way possible with moral in tact and only be surprised by some revolt actions.
In the end parents will always feel responsible because they are constantly battling their own actions and reactions and thinking that they could handle things better than. Parents always blame themselves for the failures of their kids. To point fingers to others for their lacking and failings speaks volumes just by the fact that every single person felt the need to say something against someone else's failures.
The lack of empathy or thought towards the parents or the rest of the family is scary and the fact that most people's first instinct is to accuse and find fault and voice their opinions publicly reveals character traits and flaws in itself.
Zanny the nanny... Lmfao🤣
0 likes@Shuaib Ahmed They basically did turn her in twice. Why does everyone choose to ignore that?
0 likesThey tried... Easy to say they fucked up in retrospect
0 likes@Sam really how? The 911 call I guess is one
0 likesJuliette Lewis??? That was the best name she could come up with??? An actress that disappeared after her career was done??? She could have come up with something better than that lol
0 likesInnocent verdict???? Were the Jury on hard drugs????
0 likesSo is Casey Anthony still alive?
0 likesand she continues to walk free...
0 likesPolice: "What was the nanny's name?"
6523 likesCasey: "Zanny... Zanny the Nanny".
Jury: "Sounds legit".
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Crentist. Sounds a lot like dentist
298 likesZanny....xanny....Xanax.....the nanny might've been Xanax. Aka. she gave the child Xanax to keep the child asleep or whatever and maybe the child overdosed on Xanax.
253 likesMight be a stretch but when I first heard her say xanny, I immediately thought of Xanax. Considering the nanny never existed?
105 likes@Weep maybe that's why he became a dentist?
32 likes@Pussy Lips it’s more likely that she, I don’t know, googled suffocation, fool proof suffocation, and then suffocated her.
30 likesi’d imagine she’d have been giving her xanax to calm her down so she didn’t have to actually have to pay attention caley, xanny acted as her “nanny”
47 likesZanny, short for Xanax.
24 likesOr one of the ways her daughter was kept quiet as she partied.
Bruh it’s not funny but it’s funny 😭
10 likes@Weep damn you beat me to it! lol
4 likes@TheStory Person I reign supreme for office references
3 likesmaybe that's why she became a nanny
6 likesZanny the Nanny, huh? I bet she was the past owner of Doggy-boy the Dog.
2 likesSounds like next level fuckery. That’s what it sounds like. That’s what that clusterfuck was
1 likeShe lied about so many things. It blows my mind she got away and is a free woman.
4 likes@h mejia No I get it. I feel the same way. But she got off for all those lies. We just gotta wait for her to mess up again.
0 likesBmac
0 likesI was thinking that same thing. She's sounds like she's popped a few xans to continuously stay calm.
Zanny... Sounds a lot a like Nanny...
3 likesCasey: maybe that's why she became a nanny
You know they are joking about the xanex.
1 like@Poizon Ivy well I thought she had another kid. So time will tell.
0 likesI had the same thought 😂
0 likes@James Melton I searched fool proof suffocation just now but I have not suffocated anyone or plan on it.
0 likesHaha 😛
0 likes@Weep maybe thats why he wanted to become a dentist
1 likeYou can’t overdose on Xanax
0 likesHAHAHA
0 likesI mean, her BF is Anthony and her last name is Anthony. Anthony Anthony
1 like"In September 2008, a Zenaida Gonzalez sued Casey for defamation. During the investigation, Anthony told investigators that she left 2+1⁄2-year-old Caylee with a babysitter named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez—also known as "Zanny"—on June 16 at the stairs of a specific apartment in the Sawgrass apartment complex located in Orlando. Zenaida Gonzalez, who was listed on apartment records as having visited apartments on that date, was questioned by police, but stated she did not know Casey or Caylee."
0 likes@Weep "Crentist" "Crentist. Mhh. Sounds a lot like ... Dentist"
1 likeThe Lawyer reminds me of Reggie
0 likesJuliette Lewis is a real person.. just an actress and famous LOL
0 likesYet a man would be locked up for taking her out
0 likesinstead of seething over the injustice of this case, changes need to be made, get rid of jurys once and for all! People are too dumb. especially americans to make these kinds of decisions.
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So who makes the decisions then? You?
0 likesPeople saying she 'acted like' she was above the law, but she really was, her entire life is testament to that, she will never face consequences, there is no justice in this world because of it, just a mock one, applied to some.
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Harold Jenkins oj
1 likeI have a friend exactly like this
3 likesVictor Kuhn she now works for the lawyer that represented her. They’re in a relationship too.
18 likesJari D. Fucking eh
8 likesThere is justice in the next life for a just God is the one who judges us all. And everyone is guilty and would all receive justice if it wasn’t for His mercy that is given to some.
9 likesI guarantee she's not treated well in public except maybe on holloween
4 likesThis may be a little bit true, but there is no escape from the justice of God. And who's to say she's living a good life now? Would anyone in their right mind even think about hiring this woman or working beside her?
0 likes@BigMiki Trump hired worse.
1 likeJokes aside, her sentence is her sociopathy. She will never know what it is to love or be loved for the character she has. People who say there is no justice are narrow minded and think that people like her, or people like Trump have a worthwhile life. One can just look at Trump's "friends" and ask themselves if they would want any one of them in their own life and if the answer is yes, I guess, in their mind justice will never be served. In reality, they already chose their sentence.
@Setekh TDS much? There is zero reason for you to have brought up President Trump.
3 likesShe will suffer in the afterlife for an eternity. Justice is not perfect but the alternative is what? Miscarriages happen.
3 likesBrayman85 you pay for the past sins that are not repented of for sure. If not in this life than in the next. Repent and believe the Gospel before it is to late. Trust in the one who has the power to destroy both body and soul and cast you into hell. I agree I do hope she has repented though and will go to heaven but, who knows. Only God can melt a heart of stone.
0 likes@Jaritza D. that doesn't count
0 likesJeffrey Bone well it is fact so yep. Though it is foolishness to those who are perishing so I can understand why you would think it is untrue despite the historical evidence though good trust in God himself and His word is what matters. Sadly many people who don’t believe have there hearts hardened since they are told that they will have anything they want if they believe which isn’t biblical. They tend to think of God as a genie and when he doesn’t deliver they are angry at God especially when mocked. However, by God’s providence I know that He saves my soul from sin and hell and does as He pleases. He isn’t a genie He is the all powerful all knowing Holy, Just, and Merciful God of the universe. Regardless, have a nice day you are in my prayers just as many others only God can melt a heart of stone.
0 likes@Jeffrey Bone And somehow you think that's an advantage. It does make it easier to never have to make something of one's life or work on one's character, leaving it empty, shallow and worthless, requiring constant attention and superficial "wins" to try and fulfill a bottomless pit.
1 likeIt's only an advantage to her if you think that succeeding to con people means something worthwhile.
@Mr Will You'll first have to show there is an afterlife. Justice is mostly a misconception and what you're talking about is vengeance. If you think that that is justice, you haven't the first clue about justice.
0 likesHer mother is at fault as well. She took notes during her daughter's testimony at court. Then when it was her turn to testify, she changed her original statements and helped her daughter not get convicted. I was so upset when I saw this happen. All the talking heads on courtTV were dumbfounded.
2 likesnothing compared to the massive child trafficking ring being covered up by extremely powerful individuals.
1 likeJust be a good looking woman and you might get away with everything.
0 likeschocol8milk we live in a corrupt world. It is a fools errand to seek justice from a fallen world. However, as long as God holds back the evil in peoples hearts they will seek justice.
0 likesShnobo Is this the same just God who let her murder her child or are you referring to a different one?
0 likesMikel if God had not ordained that child dying at that exact time then it would have been meaningless. That child would have not had any purpose in living in the first place. However, what we as humans mean for evil God still means for good. An example of this is when Joseph was sold into slavery by his brothers in Genesis and yet God meant that instance for good despite what His brothers did. Joseph then was put into a great position of power and was able to save Jacob and the children from a famine that would come. In the same instance something as terrible as the bubonic plague may have you question how does a good God allow such a thing to happen? Again we as feeble small humans who have no idea of the future may say this however, we are not God we are not all knowing He is. And when we can not possibly fathom how something like nazi concentration camps can be for the ultimate good or communist countries that kill there own citizens can be for the ultimate good we as people who love the God who created us trust His goodness and trust He knows what He is doing and we Trust He is in complete control. What you probably don’t realize is if God was only Just and not merciful He would simply say the words and every person on earth would be dead and be in an eternity of torment and sin never ending rebellion toward the one who made us it is terrible to think of such a place but, it is what we all deserve and why? Despite our disposition to believe we are good people none of us are we have all broken God’s law and are guilty sinners you and I are both guilty and if God gave us justice we would go to hell. God is good despite what happens to us or this world God is good despite what happens to us. It is who He is He is good. We on the other hand are enemies of God bu nature. So it is only natural for you to hate God. Lastly God is the one who gives life and He has every right to take it away. You have no choice in the matter when the time comes you will die God has ordained that day and if you have not repented and trusted alone in Christ’s finished work on the cross you will receive Justice. No one deserves to go to heaven we all deserve to go to hell it is our wages. However, in God’s mercy He has allowed all those who would forsake there sin go to Him with a contrite heart and admit how they have sinned against Him and ask for His forgiveness trusting alone In Jesus work on the cross living a perfect life being the substitute for our sins that justice can be served in the after life and our debt being paid to all those who would trust in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior as there God the only God of the universe.
0 likes@Mr Will Yeah right. Justice is done here and now, there's no room for abstractions.
0 likesScott Peterson got convicted on less WTF she soo deserved it way........ More she was partying and not giving A care at all about her daughter
1 likeparents had a collective iq of -23
0 likesNot punishing your kids is the WORST thing a parent can do. You don't have to be violent in punishment but you HAVE to punish your kids. My brother-in-law has been in prison multiple times in his life and STILL lies to everyone and thinks the world belongs to him because my mother-in-law always forgave him and said it's ok his whole life. Now, finally, he has pushed too hard and was caught stealing directly from his mom again and she stopped giving in. Now he whines and tries to put blame on her constantly for everything. He's out of prison right now but I know quite a few "minor" things he does against the law still so I'm sure it will catch up to him soon
1 likeCaylee would be 17 years old now.
1 likeAt time stamp 29:53 Casey says to her parents while visiting her, I assume in jail, that "I can't even put it into words how glad I am that she's (Caylee) HAD both of you." She then quickly corrects herself. She knew her daughter was dead, that's why Casey used past tense. That was the exact same slip that helped solve the Soham murders back in 2002. There was no justice for Caylee... and Casey is still alive and living free.
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@bored guy Disagree. Talking about her in the past tense in
15 likesthissituation is very strange.@UCgFqNOF6Zo0CQea18fJIs6Q No, English is my first language. While I respect your opinion and most definitely agree with you in with any situation that's not dealing with such a sirspicious circumstance. The circumstances would denote that it was a slip of the tongue, as it were. In the seconds that soon follow she realises what she's said and quickly amends her statement to the present tense. As I had previously stated, in the Soham Murders of 2002, while interviewing Maxine Ann Carr (girlfriend of the murder), a television interviewer noted that Maxine was talking about both the girls in the past tense, while it wasn't believed that they weren't dead at this point, only missing. This would prove to be the catalyst for the police investing both her and her partner as suspects.
29 likes@UCgFqNOF6Zo0CQea18fJIs6Q No, English is my first language. While I respect your opinion and most definitely agree with you in with any situation that's not dealing with such a sirspicious circumstance. The circumstances would denote that it was a slip of the tongue, as it were. In the seconds that soon follow she realises what she's said and quickly amends her statement to the present tense. As I had previously stated, in the Soham Murders of 2002, while interviewing Maxine Ann Carr (girlfriend of the murder), a television interviewer noted that Maxine was talking about both the girls in the past tense, while it wasn't believed that they weren't dead at this point, only missing. This would prove to be the catalyst for the police investing both her and her partner as suspects.
2 likesHer mothers reaction to hearing this says it all, it's like she's finally realising it's all true, but at the same time trying to hold back that emotion
31 likesthis is literally what I thought, I heard it at time stamp 29:34 till 29:39 'you have been a great dad, and you HAVE BEEN the best grandfather" LIKE WHAT THE HELL, how can they just ignore these mistakes she made
33 likesThat's a very weak piece of evidence though. People mess up words all the time. If one slip is enough to convict someone, then I don't know. They have collected a lot of other, much more convicting pieces of evidence though - like her emotional state, her pathological lying, etc.
9 likesExplaining this "proof" which most people have learnt from tv:
9 likesIf you know someone is dead, doesn't matter if you loved them dearly or hated them, it is a knee-jerk reaction to use past tense. If you only assume her missing you will keep using present tense, maybe not always but mostly.
i picked up on that too she does it several times using the wrong tense
7 likesScott Peterson also said he was a widow just a few weeks before Lacy went missing
2 likesI'm now also realizing that that slip plays exactly into her defense. She argued that the child drowned and that she didn't want to tell anyone. If that were true, she would have known she was dead at that point, so that's not even a piece of evidence against her.
5 likesThat’s chilling- because she knows yet is still going on and lying like that
3 likesI hope that the state did not drop this case... Forensic evidence can be found later on and she can still face the music of her actions. Either way she's going to burn in hell for what she did to that child....
4 likesI was just about to comment this!!!!
0 likesI noticed that slip up too!!!
0 likesThats not a slip up. She also said “you’ve been a great dad” in past tense, that doesn’t meant that Casey herself is dead.
0 likesi thought i was the only one that noticed!! i was just about to comment that
0 likesMonsters are not under bed, devils are not in hell - they live among us
0 likesThis is fucking devastating how could a mother care so little about her own child. She should have just given her up to her parents since they cared more about the little girl than her
0 likesSaddest thing. I'll never understand.
0 likesShe killed her baby because she wanted to be free to enjoy the fast life.
0 likesThese should be Netflix shows. They are so well put together. Creator should be proud of his work :)
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@papa snook feelz bad for Trailer Park Boys. Might sign up for swearnet.
0 likesyeah she was taken by... uh...
1 likejohn... smith?
ah shit boys, we'll never be able to find that guy
No father in the picture? Where is he. What if she despised her daughter because of this.. I dont trust her. Poor baby girl :( she is clearly guilty i am appalled shes set free. Fucked up system!
0 likesShe's lying but never talk
0 likesIf Caylee Anthony (supposedly) drowned in a swimming pool:
2319 likes1. why was she found buried somewhere else
2. why did she have duct tape on her mouth
3. why did her mother search “foolproof suffocation”
4. why did her mother act as if her child was missing
5. why did her mother not call an ambulance saying her daughter wasn’t breathing
6. why did her mother lie about her profession, her “friend”, and the babysitter whom never existed
DOESNT ADD UP.
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100% agree !
41 likesKiki
169 likesAnd that’s why the jury system is so dumb. People are dumb and can be outwitted by a suave, smooth talking lawyer. As happened in this case. And in ma y other cases (Cf Kit Martin trial).
She wasn't buried
3 likes1. the girl wasn´t buried
42 likes2. she didn´t have ductape on her mouth, she didn´t had a mouth at all when she was found, there was only a skull with ductape NEARBY
3. how do you know she did?
The sad thing is that the police did a lot of mistakes. For example: A man found the body in august. The first time he reported it he was ignored. The second time the police conducted a "quick search" and wasn´t able to find the body. The third time he led the police to the body in DECEMBER. WTF
As guilty as this women might look to a bystander. It was the police fault in handling the evidence and the attorneys just focusing on the obvious bad behaviour of the mother.
Jury be like, looks fine to me
11 likesOne of those insane cases where every person knows who the killer is but excuse the killer like the parents did.
39 likesThat's what u call a master manipulator.
7. Why did the jury find her not guilty?
22 likes@patty Patty cause the lawyer lied and said she been sexually molested by her dad since she was 8 so learnt to live a lie.
39 likesHer father never looked at her the wrong way.
@Michael S WOW! You really get worked up by this kid killer, a perfect psychopathic tendency
6 likes@Michael S police usually ruin a lot of major cases
6 likesThere's a lot of details that indicate her guilt and it's obvious she did it, but there was no hard evidence. They couldn't (and shouldn't) have made any other decision.
6 likesI always come back to something the medical examiner said. She’d been an ME in Florida for twenty years. Unfortunately, she’s seen her share of children who have died in drowning accidents. In all that time, however, she never encountered a case in which a parent did not call for help—even when the child had been dead for hours and even when the parent was guilty of neglect.
29 likesAn addicted mother might let her child fall into the pool and drown while she’s high, but when she comes down and finds the child, she will still call 911. Not Casey Anthony.
@RazMatazz legally yes. That's what the judicial system relies on. Evidence beyond any doubt.
2 likes@Kiki Kitsinis Are you an attorney? You should be!
1 like@No Tact Scary that people like that exist. I was raised by someone who's in between a grandiose/covert narcissist who was a professional actress (I could see through the act but other people couldn't including: people in court, friends & family, people at church...basically anyone not that close to her.) She was a court reporter too so she knew how to work the system. I was kidnapped at 8 years old, never got to say goodbye to my mom, had no pictures of her for years so that I couldn't find her (I forgot what she looked like after a couple of years.)
9 likesAlthough I don’t buy it, he literally explained why it was kept a secret lol..
1 like@فاء بن ألف
1 likeThere's another documentary on true crime or something about this case the dad is giving the interview along with the mom and the dad refutes this accusation. If u feel up to it watch it and ul see
We don't convict people off assumptions unfortunately
0 likesJesus fucking christ, you think the grandmother is responsible? (caley"s grandma?)
0 likesAnd they didn't put other charges like criminal negligence as she never reached out to doctors or police after her daughter "got drowned"...she just got a clean chit after murdering a freaking child.. This is outrageous!!
9 likes@barbara seymour George Zimmerman was guilty as hell, and he also walked away, I really do not understand these kind of people from Florida. I watched the Zimmerman trial, the not guilty was horrible.
6 likes@Felis Asininus what's better than a jury system
0 likesi’m confused because in the last hearing casey’s attorney said ‘it will never be proven how caylee died’ but in the first hearing he said she drowned ??? why was that not questioned
2 likesThere was duct tape wrapped around the head, stuck to hair. That's a sign you never intended to remove the tape. Also, the guy who found the body did not say anything when he first found it. He was waiting for a bigger reward or incentive.
5 likes@derek west ok trumpie
3 likes@Michael S caylee was partially buried. roots from trees were growing into her vertebrae.
6 likesalso, yes, there was duct tape found on her mouth and wrapped around her skull. casey was searching how to suffocate someone prior to caylee's disappearance. that is exactly how they found her daughters body. suffocated.
decomp in southern heat, in the woods, is subjected to heat, dry temperature amongst other things, but that doesn't mean her body lacked any evidence at all. this is especially due to the fact that caylees body was wrapped in two trash bags, a laundry bag, and finally in a blanket. caylee's body still had hair/scalp attached, and the duct tape was still hanging onto those areas. the autopsy reports that the duct tape was wrapped so tightly around her head multiple times that parts of her head didn't fully decompose which is why she still had fragments of hair. there is actually also photo evidence of the duct tape from her head. her body was found with duct tape wrapped around her lower facial region (mouth and nose) several times, obviously still attached by fragments of hair on the skull that did not fully decompose.
i'm not sure where you got that botched information from.
Of course it doesn't add up, she killed her baby, that exactly what happened and JSC explain it here.
2 likesAnd why did she write in her diary that she knew she had "made the right decision" and is "the happiest she had been in a long time" when she knew her daughter was dead
10 likesThat because she did kill her daughter asked yourself this if you were out partying enjoying yourself not think for one second that her daughter been missing for five days and decide to contact the police whatever that show she evil and she need to lock up or be on dead roll
2 likesShe doesn't need to LIVE!!!
1 like@todaXPTO Really? SO disgusting, I am speechless.....
0 likesI feel like this case needs to be escalated to the Supreme Court to discuss how criminals can get away just because there are no "physical evidence"
3 likes@derek west trump was terrible
3 likes@Ivan Andreev In Bulgaria you are guilty until proven innocent?? Are you sure? Bulgaria is part of EU and in all EU countries its "innocent until proven guilty" , like in the US.
3 likes@IlFB forever yes, I am sure. I have a friend who got through a trial and I got this information first hand.
1 like@Michael S this. What people dont understand that jury has to decide if someone's guilty BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. If police mishandles the case and the evidence, and the police shows 10 evidence against her, out of that 10, 5 was mishandled... thats not beyond reasonable doubt. Reasonable is to assume police was trying to set her up, too. If they "fucked up" so msny times it raises reasonable suspicion something fishy is going on... enough not to convict her even if i was 90% sure its her... 90% is not 100%.
1 like@Ivan Andreev but youre wrong lmao. Bulgaria has to oblige to EU law or it would get kicked out, so on paper Bulgarian law applies the rule of innocence unril proven otherwise in their law; the problem in Bulgaria is, that the law and the reality is different. On paper its all nice and dandy, in reality even the general prosecutors say shit like "the accused has to prove his innocence in court" meaning they literally do not understand their own laws of their own country, and politicians and media alike use it dor their advantage, destroying political opponents with accusations only for the courts, prosecutors and judges to treat rhem like they're guilty before anything is proven in court, destroying one's career and reputation... and after he defends himself in court nobody cares anymore.
0 likesIts the same with rape accusations in US and western europe; once youre accused EVERYONE assumes your guilt, from the prosecutors, police officers handling you, prison mates, even your own friends and family, your comoany you worked for fires you to clear their name even tho there is no proof of guilt beyond a simple statement from a single person... and lets say 2 years pass snd no evidence is found, youre free to go to, well, nowhere as your whole city hstes you despite your innocence, your family still suspects you, you have no job and noone will hire yiu in your small town as everyone knows your name etc.
My point is, does that mean the law of innocence until proven otherwise doesnt exist to rape allegations in USA? No, that just means its not applied despite being the law... same in Bulgaria but its way more prevalent.
Y’all heard Eminem’s cypher? She just wanted to get her groove on
0 likesall of those questioned were answered in the trial, by her lawyer, her mom and Dad and others.
0 likesright! in that theory, why would she hide that her daughter drowned accidentally? she wouldn’t have gotten in trouble for that (maybe neglect, but likely nothing), and the ambulance could have gotten there in time to save her. but instead she risks getting in trouble for everything else? doesn’t make sense
2 likesAmerican justice system in a nutshell
2 likesTHANK YOU
0 likesYup
0 likes@No Tact not 'beyond any doubt'. You left out the keyword: 'reasonable'. Very few murders are actually caught on tape. So the facts and evidence can be tied together into a story that makes sense.
0 likesGreat points
0 likes@barbara seymour people aren't willing to recognize that the failure of this case was the lawyer, who made a shit tier argument, and the police who came to w series of conclusions without firm evidence.
0 likesMore or less, why her car trunk smells decays? And she's free? Well, cause USA court system at best, not perfect. So that's it, we can't do anything about it further
1 likeBecause boo hoo sad background
0 likesYES!!!!!!!!! This is the reality of the IN-justice system. The law is created to protect the criminals - NEVER to help the victims.
0 likesYa right, there's so much more to be questioned yet they find an easy way to close the case.
0 likes@derek west PEOPLE are easily fooled
0 likes@Michael S You don't listen very well, do you?
0 likes@Fabian Sandoval Had nothing to do with police, bud
0 likesShe did killed her baby...there is a lot of things she did to get baby .. And told so many lied. Her attorney knows the truth to what an attorney even if he knows the truth his job is to save you the attorney
0 likes@Ivan Andreev Did they try tracking where the trash bags came from, where or who purchased them or where the sheets came from or who and where they were purchased.? Whose pool did she die in and if the mom was there, how did the child get from point A to point B? What became of the babysitter's story? How could they have believed the molestation of the father when the daughter is a pathological liar? Too many question points. Honestly, the jury got it totally wrong
0 likesSo unbelievably guilty
0 likesShe was definitely innocent and she fine as hell
1 likeI wonder if she's looking for work I need a babysitter.
0 likesThis is my opinion. I believe Casey Anthony never cared about her daughter but that doesn't mean she murdered her. If she actually did murder the child then she would have immediately called the police and pretended to 'care'. That's what actual suspects would do, in order to avoid being called a suspect. That's what Chris Watts did after he killed his family, he went on TV and pretended to be the concerned father. That's what Jodi Arias did after she killed Travis. She immediately called 911.
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But, why would she keep on giving false information then? She doesn't seem like a normal person at all, so it makes sense why she didn't act like the other murderers.
0 likesYou're assuming she could think ahead of what might happen and prepare for situations in advance (i.e. people asking where her child is, her mother calling the cops to report Caylee missing, etc.). Some people just live minute to minute. Think of how she actually led the police around that studio where she didn't work. She didn't have a plan for how she would eventually need to admit that she didn't work there.
0 likes@Lydia At the least, Casey Anthony was a bad mom. She lied to the police to avoid being arrested for child neglect or being called a bad mom. It doesn’t mean she murdered the child. When the child went missing, she probably thought she’s free of responsibilities and can live her life. She probably thought whoever took the child, did her favor.
0 likesMind you, I really dislike Casey Anthony but I don’t believe she’s a murderer. An actual murderer would cook up a story. Casey Anthony kept saying “she doesn’t know” what happened to her daughter.
Someone murdered the child but it isn’t Casey Anthony. That person got away with murder. I think it’s the nanny. The nanny changed her name and went into hiding.
@Kaiser 129 you obviously haven't followed the case completely. There was no nanny. Her defense attorney claimed the child drowned in the family pool. A woman with the same name as this fictional nanny sued Casey so no one went into hiding. You keep saying she would cook up a story if she was guilty and that's exactly what she did.
0 likesDetective: "Now Casey, who do you think has your daughter?"
2532 likesCasey: "With all of my heart I believe it is Ombudsman Heinrich Von Cloogy-Cloppy. We met on the "Orient Express" train ride at Disneyland he's an impressive chap with a handle bar moustache and an antique pocket watch. He is given to flatulence and has a penchant for small talk with strangers, which I found suspicious. He has an abnormal gait when ambulating in cold weather environments and cups his hand behind his ear to hear better in high ambient noise areas or construction sites. He likes to repair Cox gas powered miniature airplanes as a hobby, and while he is right hand dominant, he uses his left hand to cut construction paper figures and letters. He is quite good at tying knots, so I believe he might have once been a sailor or in the riggers union. He prefers steak sauce on his cheese burgers, but oddly enough not on his steaks. He's the kind of guy who tips using a calculator, and traveled to Pamplona to run with the bulls at the Fiesta De San Fermin by himself."
Detective: "Is anything you just told us based in truth?"
Casey: "Not....one.... shred."
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If she wasn’t such a horrendous person she could have been a writer
158 likes@Alexander the Great Hell, this person could have been a writer! lol
101 likesLMFAOOOOOO
15 likes@drop zone that's what I'm saying! either Lawson is also a pathological liar or is very skilled at fiction with a very very vivid imagination
19 likesThe steak sauce part 😂😂😂
17 likespenchant
18 likesgait
"pension" lol
Other than that, creative.
Lmfao that name took me out immediately
9 likes👏👏👏
3 likes@Jason Whatever do I have your permission to make the appropriate correction?
6 likesJury: Yeah, she's innocent i dont know why we're even here right now.
7 likes💀💀💀💀💀
1 likeLOL HOW DID THAT TRANSITION TO A HARRY POTTER PARAGRAPH
4 likesDid she really said that?
3 likes@Tobias Sieber yes
4 likesok unfunny
1 like😂😂😂😂
1 likeIve never laughed this long
1 likeThis is some top tier writing, bravo😂
1 likeOriginal commenter can make a good story and now I'm wondering if I should call the police 😂
2 likesBefore the entire comments section gets shut down I must say, You, sir, win. 😂😂😂😂😂
1 likeI'm rolling on my bed laughing! Please 😭✋🏼
1 likePure evil.
0 likesClearly was guilty
0 likesMonster's everywhere🙂 living with us and walking free no one cares
1 likewhen a white girl smiles..I'm just like no way this sweet angel is our perp..
0 likesThe defense attorney had a lot of nerve to stand there and call her father a child molester.
399 likesI hope her family at least disowned her.
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The father has no relationship with her but her mother still does.
75 likesNope, the loser forgave her. Both are psychopaths. Apple doesnt fall far from the tree.
50 likes@kkheflin3 the mother should also have nothing to do with her.
12 likesIt gets worse. Later reports that came out show that she changed her story whilst speaking with Prison psychiatrists and suggested that the Father abducted, raped and drowned Caylee. It just beggars belief how low a human can stoop.
70 likes@Epoxygleu A bit of a jump there mate. Aligning her Father's forgiveness to psychopathy makes no sense at all.
24 likes@Velcro Nah. Forgiving someone of such a crime is psychopathic in my book.
10 likes@Velcro 😯😱 the poor father.
4 likes@Epoxygleu Fair enough. Maybe you should release that book. You could make millions if you argue your case with logic and reason.
11 likes@Zeneb Usman Nuts hey? I'd be thinking 'that was my sperm!?'
3 likes@Velcro 😄
0 likes@Velcro hmmh, your horns are showing bud. Look, Ill release that book, "how forgiving someone can be psychopathic" out in stores next week.
5 likes@Zeneb Usman that stunt was planned ,,the father didnt care , he wanted daughter to be free
4 likes@Velcro You really have to feel for the parents, wondering how they could have brought such a monster into the world.
2 likes@Epoxygleu well your book isn't the DSM. Psychopaths lack remorse or empathy, two things needed for one to display forgiveness.
7 likesThey were probably in on it. They chose to save their daughter's life. They were enablers from the start.
7 likes@Daniel Dela Torre it's pretty clear that manipulative psycho had them all wrapped around her finger from day 1. She dropped out of school and they threw her a grad party and told everyone she was an honor student. They are under her control, not on her side. Big difference.
6 likesNeither of her parents talk to her now
1 like@Wendy Sykes shes hiding out,, what are the parents supposed to say? its another form of protecting her
0 likes@Daniel Dela Torre yes the grandparents would of noticed this earlier,,the best friend girl too,, the mother went and smelled the trunk?? i dont think so,, someone else was probably ready to report her and the mother came up with the 911plan
0 likes@Wendy Sykes not true, she has a relationship with her mother and after her father's car crash in 2018 he said in an interview that she reached out to him and that he forgives her and wants to rekindle a relationship.
2 likes@JayblesTO Yeah.. Her manipulation is both despicable and masterful.. Thanks for emphasizing that fact though..
5 likesNo the mother chose Casey over her husband.
0 likes@Harold Jenkins but they sure as hell can act it.
0 likes@JayblesTO true, not really; but seeing how good of an actor his daughter is.
0 likes@Harold Jenkins they do have emotions just not empathy for others, they do care about themselves and things they want and need.
0 likesNo, that was the plan so her father/grandfather could cover up the crime.
0 likes@Epoxygleu That's a scary book.
2 likesLol didn’t he pay for the lawyer
0 likesNah I'm sure they continue to enable her
0 likes@Epoxygleu Armchair psychologists everywhere.
1 like@JayblesTO gross
0 likes@Przemek Fiolkowski because psychopaths dont lie about everything? Damn, Ive always been wrong about everything. Who knew. Well, you, the youtube genius who comes with 0 arguements ofcourse.
0 likes@wildzwaan truth is often more unsettling then the lies told by a psychopath, so yah, scary. Want to know whats really scary? People thinking forgiving a child killer is a-oke!
0 likes@Epoxygleu You equate contact with forgiving. There's the gap in your logic.
1 like@Harold Jenkins Psychopaths do have emotions they're just incapable of feeling empathy but they love pitying themselves and feeling bad they got caught. They don't feel anything for anybody else but themselves tho.
1 likePhil Bolton i don’t think she came in like that I think her parents created it ..a freaking monster who never had to take any responsibility for any wrong doing 😒
0 likesDaniel Dela Torre I watched an interview with her parents a few yrs ago and they basically told the father the night before that they were going to throw him under the bus in an attempt to save the little murderer ...he was not happy , as you can see on his face as their reading the verdict...and didn’t talk to her for several years .
0 likes@wildzwaan hmmm, no. Psychopaths lie, thats what they do. Whether it be mundane things, big things, feelings or whatever, its an act. Its also genetically predispositioned, so theres that. I wont be manipulated into thinking otherwise ;)
0 likesThat defense attorney is fucking good
0 likes@Epoxygleu I think you meant to respond to someone else? You are not addressing what we were discussing.
0 likes@wildzwaan the "hmmm, no." Was your awnser. The father wants to rekindle the relationship with his daughter. So Im not mixing 2 things up, you just think he only forgave her.
0 likes@Epoxygleu I don't know that he did forgive her, and neither do you.
0 likes@wildzwaan tsk, omg. He did an interview. Stay updated if you want to argue.
0 likesPure Evil !
0 likesThis lady wouldve made a great press secretary for trump
0 likesYou just shake your head... Evil, evil, evil.
0 likesWhat's the deal with the picture at 15:30? The guy on the left has something weird going on at the back of his head.
0 likesWait so she was out partying and getting tattoos while her daughter is missing and she wasn’t found guilty??? This is crazyyyy
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Omg I know right?! I didn’t know all of the details when this happened. Wow this is wild, my favorite lie of hers is taking 2 detective to universal studio where she doesn’t even work there anymore then proceeded wondering the hallways like she was anticipating a magical office to appear that her name plaque on it
73 likesand then popped a mentos... the freshmaker
6 likesNot when you have a lawyer that good.
10 likesNo.
4 likesThis is law.
No no no this is florida
23 likes@Preston Steele floridas law
5 likesMust have been the same jurors as OJ
28 likesdenica, very not smart u are not... not.
0 likesThis is insane she is free...in a new location probably paid ..new identity
8 likesShe was found guilty, of child neglect.
2 likesFemale privilege, unfortunately judges often go easy on women and I can guarantee if she was man he would have been crucified...
17 likesPartying and tattoos have what to do with murder?
3 likes@tmright18 no she wasn't...she was found guilty of lying to the cops and was sentenced to time served.
5 likes@Quasi Modus No this is a jury verdict, u can play those people on the emotions, a normal judge would look at the evidence. Its a bad bad system.
5 likes@HoBrosGaming 4 years i believe
0 likes@Touhou music no, it isn't. She got lucky with a lawyer.
10 likesHe went on to win a lot of large cases. Good lawyer can make or break the case. He was really good, prosecution wasn't too good.
@testje aapiel no, it isn't a bad system. When your liberty depends on one person, that isn't a good system.
1 likeHere, you have 12 strangers, your peers, judging you. I personally like it. Of course, it doesn't always work out but it's the best we have.
If it was you on trial, you wouldn't want to be judged by a judge. So give her the same courtesy.
The judges already rule completely with anything besides a trial (who goes to jail, who gets bail, how much time they get if they don't go to trial.. ) and there are judges that are known as soft and strict.
Their personal prejudices and personality comes out and this is a horrible system.
The judge that presided over Ashley McArthur case seemed like such a sweetheart, she also let a murder suspect on home arrest!!
You'd think she's amazing. Until you read the comments from black people that know her as the worst judge ever. She locked everyone up, no bail, for bs cases, like shoplifting.
@Ната these lawyers will also probably burn on he ll too. When u can see thr evidence like the duck tape and the Internet searches on her computer about how to suffocate its all strong evidence that thr baby didn't just drown in a pool, she was murdered. How do layers like this sleep at night? When u r defending the literal devil u r destined for hel l. Simple. He is just as guilty of the crime.
15 likes@EmpressKajal i don't think in terms of hell, devil, etc. So, not interested in this type of discussion.
2 likes@Ната each to their own. U go ur path and I'll go mine.
1 likeShe had to be proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. The prosecution could not prove SHE killed Kaylee. The law works on facts not gut instincts.
8 likes@Ната I rather have 1 smart person who studied the laws, then 12 donkeys who didn't to decide for me. Its not just one person deciding the whole system is made in such way its not possible. prejuces? no the law simply wont allow for that.
1 likeThen there is several ways of appeal, and at the top there are 5 judges who can decide a lower court did not follow the law as they should and it can start all over again, ofcourse mistakes are being made, but in our system we dont have something like a plea deal, how manny innocent take the deal cuz then its 3 instaid of 15 years? and because they dont have money to fight with a proper lawyer?
We dont have political judges like they get appointed where you live. its the other way arround the politics try to interfere with the judges :P we have a trias politicas system in place.
World Justice Project, is a organisation who ranks the countrys on that matter, go have a looksy. we are ranked 5th in the world. stil not perfect, but were high up for a reason. (good chance more bad guys walk free this way, but rather have one bad guy free then 10 innocent in jail)
@testje aapiel yes, appeals and all. They exist with a jury system as well.
0 likesI just gave you examples where judges personal preferences come into play.
Plea deals are there when people are guilty, for the most part. Very rarely someone pleads out because they don't have money. They would get a free lawyer, by the way, if they wanted to go to trial. So, that's rarely the reason. Most of the time, they know they have no chance.
Well, she walked. What's your complaint? You say you'd rather have 10 guilty walk, the jury system did what you wanted
@Ната Not believing the devil and not wanting to hear about hell doesn’t stop either one from being real and true. The devil exists and hell is a real place. Both being the case whether you like it or not. And if you don’t wanna hear about that, I’m unfortunately sure that you don’t wanna hear about the solution and the only way to avoid going to that awful place.
5 likes@Black Suburban no one knows what exists and what's real. No one has ever come back from the dead, so for that reason alone, no one can know if hell exists.
2 likesI said I'm not interested in any kind of discussions that lean into the bible. It bores me.
Keep your religion to yourself. Not to mention, there might be people here that have a different religion. It's common courtesy.
@testje aapiel unfortunately, I know enough of the plea deal system.
2 likesShe had a free lawyer. He was a nobody before her but he turned out to be brilliant. Not just because of her case, he went on to win almost every large case he took on.
The state paid for her defense. Maybe it's you that needs education. Free lawyer doesnt mean free, it means the state pays the lawyer.
Even high paid lawyers fail in majority of the cases, money doesn't always matter.
The jury, in my opinion, did the right thing. You have your opinion, I have mine. Yours doesn't weigh more than mine.
@testje aapiel I'm angry? I couldn't care less who thinks what. I have my own opinion and I will stay with it.
1 likeExactly I don’t understand
0 likes@Ната exactly my point, its your oppinion, that has nothing to do with facts!
1 likeEven crazier she switched from the nanny story to saying her father did it and still got away with it.
2 likes@A. B.D.... Lol 😂🤣
0 likes@testje aapiel yours is just an opinion as well. Facts are subject to interpretation, otherwise we wouldn't need trials.
0 likesYou have yours, I have mine. Neither weighs more than the other.
@Ната fact in Law
0 likesthe truth about events as opposed to interpretation.
Even this you couldv looked up. And to clarify, a trial is to distinguish fact from fiction. the interpretation is put on the laws ;) not on the facts.
for over 30 days... So crazy
0 likes@testje aapiel facts are interpreted as well, their meaning in certain context, how true a "fact" is.
1 likeAs an example. You're saying that it's a fact that she performed this search. I'm saying that it isn't a fact. The fact is that a search was performed on a computer (even that isn't a fact, since they messed up on the dates, number of searches, etc and with all that, I'd call all their findings into question) that she had access to. Who performed the search is up for debate.
And this applies to every "fact" of the case.
Fact isn't a fact until it's proven beyond a reasonable doubt. And that's why we have trials, among other things.
@Ната The defenition of a fact is very clear, there is no weighing to do... now your just adding more nonsense to talk yourself out of the hole youve dug. if something is not a fact we cannot call it a fact obviously. your logic is flawed. this is not my oppinion, youve just stated it yourself.
0 likeslook up the definition of a fact in law...
a trial is to find out the truth, facts dont change. either we can prove it and its a fact, else it remains a suspicion.
@testje aapiel omg lol. Get over yourself, you're giving yourself too much credit if you think you can make me feel like I'm in trouble.
3 likesFact is a fact, but, apparently, most people don't understand what it truly means.
The example you gave is not a fact and I explained why. It is not a fact that she searched "foolproof" suffocation.
So yes, among other things, at trial the jury gets to decide if a "fact" was proven by prosecution to be a fact.
They claimed that it was a fact that Caylee was in the trunk, but they couldn't prove it. They claimed that casey searched "foolproof suffocation" but couldn't prove it. They claimed that casey killed Caylee but couldn't prove it.
So, whatever you want to call it, facts, proposals, suggestions, but prosecution presents their version at trial and the jury decides if they believe it. Of course, by applying the law.
But a large part of their job is definitely to decide whether the prosecution's version makes sense.
Prosecution doesn't present facts a lot of the time. It presents their interpretation of them.
@Ната just more bla bla bla to delude the FACT that you were wrong. ur making my point thank you!
0 likes@Ната
0 likesBlack people knew her as the worst judge ever? No, no, no, they just had bad lawyers. Remember? That's how you simply dismiss a claim of possible bias. Just assert that it doesn't exist and frame every individual case as an isolated incident. By the way, that good lawyer you were talking about, did he or she also represent black people at any point? If so, what were the results?
If you're going to believe one type of bias exists on the basis of multiple personal testimonies without looking at further context, yet dismiss another by introducing one piece of contextual evidence without further investigating the claim on a broader scale, you know you might be operating on a double standard.
By the way, those black people complaining about the judge being so harsh. Do you happen to know what their gender was? Also, I noticed the white person put on house arrest in your example just so happened to be a woman. Might that be a significant factor?
If you can look at the statistics and attribute overrepresentation of incarcerated black people as opposed to white people to systemic bias without looking into further detail and the overrepresentation of incarcerated men as opposed to women to numerous details while discarding bias even as a possibility, that's an indication there is something amiss. Perhaps, it is a bias? Depending on its prevalence, it might even be another systemic one. Who knows?
We live in a complex world. Biases most definitely exist. There is this idea floating around that biases towards some groups are simply impossible and this idea is in itself a deeply biased proposition.
@Touhou music FACTS
0 likes@Ната sounds like kamala
0 likes@ALi kamala?
0 likes@Rookie Videos Why do black people have more often a bad lawyer tho? What do you think?
0 likesTbh everything is right on off records she looks guilty but judge can't make her guilty when there is no proof I mean the defendant only won because there was no damn proof against her and they already knew they would win if there was no proof they just needed a good talker.
0 likes@testje aapiel
0 likesYou didn't get the point, did you?
@Rookie Videos I dont, thats why in a dialogue one should ask questions, wich im doing, the alternative is assumption and that the mother of all fuck ups.
0 likesWhy are you making a problem out of this/nothing?
Something is not because of only bias's, life aint this black and white, its sure part of it, but its surely not the full picture.
And if your not into dialogue, why post under a youtube video at all? preaching the choir is pointless.
@testje aapiel from a Barrister who specialises in criminal law aka me: a trial is NOT to find out the truth. The purpose of a trial is for the prosecution to present their case to a jury and for 12 normal standard members of society to decide if, on the evidence presented both direct evidence and indirect evidence aka inference, the case presented has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. 12 members of society judge this because law in almost every country in the world is made and amended based on majority rule expectation of morality, not on one person's view of the law. Juriors tend to be extremely good at their job because they are not synical or over taxed by the repedative nature of the system given they will only be summond a few times in their lives, and understand the importance of their role given the system may also protect them or a loved one from a false allegation one day.
1 likeA legal aid lawyer aka 'free lawyer' is no less qualified or able than a high priced lawyer. A lawyer can ask for any hourly rate they want without restriction, it does not mean they are any better. In fact those asking for high hourly rates are generally in firms with billing targets and who never touch actual trial work and routinely deal out cases because it earns them more money. Their focus is on their wallet and image. Whereas a legal aid lawyer takes less money because they believe in the system and providing everyone, regardless of their income, with legal representation. They will juggle more files, have much more on their feet time in court aka experience, and generally work harder with a focus on you rather than their wallet. This is an important lesson to learn in life on general. Higher price dies not mean better.
Side note: if you wish to argue with people on the internet, I would suggest learning how to spell and construct sentences well enough to convey your point. At present, your arguments are easily dismissed as an uneducated point of view because of the lack of these two things. Level up.
That's why her lawyer said you needed to ignore the facts if you were upset because it showed bias. He knew decent people would be upset and played on that. Then if you went only by the facts you were obviously some kind of an unfeeling monster and biased. So 'Catch 22'.
1 like@Ната what if it had 12 judges, Who cant be played on emotions of stupid(Florida) People?
0 likesWelcome to the Flori-DUH justice system!!
0 likes@manofsteel33 not the Flori-Doh! system :P?
0 likes@Ilari S they were not stupid and their emotions were not played on.
0 likes@Nonya BiZz I thought her mom sealed her fate with that video call
0 likes@sfairraid 13 yes I’m on his closing statement rn. He is really good. Her looks don’t fool me tho
0 likes@sfairraid 13 don’t you think the first phone calls she made from jail were pretty incriminating?
0 likes@ALi sorry, still don't get it. Can you explain?
0 likes@Rookie Videos i replied to you twice (same post, I didn't see the first one post, so I tried again) and for some reason, I'm not seeing either reply. Not sure whats happening but don't feel like rewriting, it was long :)
0 likesYeah it's crazy how much the science of human behavior is ignored or not understood enough or explained well enough to a jury for them to convict on it. I would suspect most jurors would rather vote to convict based on physical evidence so there is less chance of getting it wrong. I mean, you have to think as a juror you have a gut feeling but you are told repeatedly to ignore it and examine evidence and then be totally certain when you decide, when in fact no one is ever certain of the facts they are all making educated guesses as to what happened based on the evidence presented but also the stories told by the prosecutor and defense. Stories are powerful and you never know how power dynamics within a jury may have been with perhaps one or two strong personalities influencing the rest of the jurors.
1 like@Rookie Videos
0 likesfound my post on clipboard, trying again
im sure they had bad lawyers, so did this woman, she was found guilty. But in her case it probably wouldn't have mattered, too much evidence. Though who knows, maybe baez could've gotten her off.
My example of a good lawyer was baez. He turned out to be brilliant and went on to prove it over and over.
I don't know about black people but he got Aaron Hernández off. Not black, Hispanic. But same prejudices apply, prisons are full of blacks and Hispanics.
I dont know the gender but the gender didn't play a part here I'm sure. The judge was an attention whore, the way she was sucking up to the jury was just straight up inappropriate and she loved being on TV.
Watch a few videos of that trial, it's obvious right away.
But the lawyer don't matter here, locking someone up for shoplifting, pettit larceny, drug use and letting someone go on house arrest for murder? This is a clear-cut case of a judge letting her personal preferences come into her judging.
No system is perfect but I wouldn't want to depend on 1 person judging my fate. That's my opinion, you have yours.
I feel like there's a better chance for justice with a jury.
Who said that biases towards some groups are impossible? Biases are everywhere. We are trained to think in stereotypes from childhood.
@sfairraid 13 yes, good point. So many issues in the family and baez was smart enough to play on them.
0 likesAlso he was more personable to the jury and that definitely makes a difference. Where the prosecutor is in a different class, than the jury and it came through in his behavior.
Things like these shouldn't play a role (which lawyer you like, etc) but we are all people and we are affected by our preferences, sympathies...
I was on a jury once for a drug dealer. He was the usual guy, with dreads, violent looking, etc, not a person you would like. But he got lucky with this very nice, white lawyer who was also very charming, just a nice personality guy. And I found myself wanting to believe whatever he said.
The defendant then made the dumbest mistake half trial, fired him and represented himself. Guilty.
But just goes to show you how much things like personal sympathies matter and they go both ways, obviously. You can like the defense and dislike the prosecution. And I think this is what happened here and it played a role as well.
And him laughing when baez was doing the closing probably also played a large part in this. So unprofessional, inappropriate, disrespectful and arrogant. This really didn't do him any favors.
To sum it up, prosecution messed up and she got lucky with a really good lawyer.
@sfairraid 13 I personally found Baez really annoying at trial, he's not my type of a person but I have to give it to him, he proved everyone wrong. And somehow was able to get the jury to like him.
0 likesThis was q fascinating case, I followed it almost from the beginning. I was 100% sure she would be found guilty, I mean, really, look at everything she did, all the lies, etc. And was dumbfounded when she was found not guilty.
Then I hear the jury's points, then I watched some documentaries, thought about it and realized that I really don't know how she killed her daughter. And if she did (maybe it really was an accident).
And I found defense's explanation on why she didn't tell anyone to be credible. She was definitely fucked in the head, there were definitely issues in the family (hiding the pregnancy, her not graduating, etc) and believed that it was possible that hiding things became her way of life. She has a lot of issues, for sure, and as crazy as it seemed at first that someone can lie so much, I found his explanation to make sense.
On the murder, I had a few theories, like everyone else but we cannot convict on theories, as much as people here want to crucify her.
I wish we knew what really happened but I doubt we ever will.
@Ната i did
0 likes@Ната you’re actually entirely wrong on the only guilty people take a plea deal thing. Droves of innocent people, especially POC, are persuaded into taking plea deals by both law enforcement and shitty paid public defenders who basically have no time for each case they have because they know that it’s unlikely that person is going to get a fair judgement or hearing. Many innocent people who have later been exonerated state that they were basically told you’re either going to get 30+ years in prison/a death sentence with almost full certainty or you can take this less than 10 year plea deal. When it’s your life on the line, you accept the plea deal because that’s human nature - to survive.
0 likesThe internet searches should be enough too
1 likei guess it's only because the whole case was nothing but doubts & inconsistent evidence :( they didn't have anything to TRULY pin her, which sucks
0 likes@ALi but the prosecution fucked up those google searches badly. They got the dates, times and numbers all wrong which already made it sketchy and they didn’t have any direct evidence it was her - it was done on a computer that a multitude of people had access to and they couldn’t prove otherwise. Moreover, a google search doesn’t directly equate to a crime. I’m an over thinker and have adhd so if a thought pops into my head, I have to google it; as a result, I’m probably on some watch lists lol but that doesn’t mean if a bomb goes off, I’m the bomber because a tv show made me question if the mechanics of what they were doing were real and google it.
0 likesI 100% believe that she is guilty and it’s a travesty that she got away with it but these things are complicated. It’s hard to separate entirely provable facts that have direct evidence that are proven beyond doubt vs probable “facts” aka speculations that don’t have proper evidence. It makes things murky and confusing and all you need is a good lawyer like hers, to prey on that confusion and take full advantage of it.
@Drago i think the fact she's connected to those searches among other things. No reason why all the lies either etc
0 likes@Drago I said most of the time. Not all the time. There will obviously be exceptions to every rule. But most of the time, people take it because they have no chance of winning a trial: they were caught redhanded.
0 likesIf people want to go to trial - they can choose a lawyer, more than 1, if needed and the state will pay for it. You do know that Casey's defense was paid for by the state, right?
@Tim O'Sullivan that's beyond evil
0 likes@Ната
0 likesI'll have a look at that trial. Is it up on Youtube somewhere? I'll take your word for it that there's a bias there, it can be very disturbing to see, especially if it's clear.
Glad you found your thoughtful reply back on your clipboard. My point of contention wasn't with the judge or jury question. I believe there's advantages and disadvantages to both methods.
What I found interesting was your reply to someone saying - albeit crudely - "female privilege". You dismissed this notion and it's implications.
Now, I don't think this term is very helpful, because I don't like collectivist ideas so much, but I do believe there's a bias against men in court.
I wonder what your ideas are about that. Could you explain for instance how you're sure gender didn't play a role? What is it that convinces you of that?
Considering that you find it noteworthy to mention that the majority of people in prison are Hispanic or black (in the US) as an indication of prejudice - which I don't dispute - then howcome you don't find it equally noteworthy that most people in jail are male? Do you think there could be a bias there or do you think there's different explanations?
@PrinceMarcus William LOLOLOLOLOOOOOO
0 likesNo evidence so normally that would nean no conviction but they convicted manson over drug addict/murderers testimony with no evidence and he wasn't even at the crime scene and he died in jail. It makes no sense
0 likesprobably the judge and lawyer was a democrat
0 likes@testje aapiel Everyone here is giving opinions. We get it. We don't need 20 back and forth posts between explaining it
0 likesShe won’t go free. God will judge everyone, including her. NO ONE ever gets away with anything even if they think they do. People like OJ and Casey are deluding themselves if they think they really are going to get away with these crimes when they face God. Ecclesiastes 8:11
0 likesBecause the sentence against an evil deed is not executed speedily, the heart of the children of man is fully set to do evil.
@Austin Sellers //denica, very not smart u are not...// Huh? That is a pretty incomprehensible insult if it is meant as an insult. If she is NOT very NOT smart then I guess she is smart....
0 likes@James Hammond //Partying and tattooos have what to do with murder?// If you have to ask, you are pretty clueless. Just ask any real mother whose child was supposedly kidnapped if they would have been doing any of those things. The contrast between the grandmother’s reaction when she first learned her granddaughter had been kidnapped and missing for a month and Casey’s complete lack of concern and self-centered behavior could not be more indicative of guilt.
0 likesI know this is so embarrassing or the whole system what a joke her lawyer was really good but it was so obvious she was guilty I can’t imagine how that jury didn’t see through the bullshit
0 likes@Jeffrey Blattman very good that your post adds what now?
0 likes@testje aapiel what do you think your 20 tit-for-tat posts are adding? As for what my post added, nothing, except for making me feel better.
0 likes@Robert Preisser i amended my prior statement
0 likes@Austin Sellers Okay, so you added another negative to make it a triple negative. But you still didn’t explain what your actual issue is with what she said, and this is still an unjustified insult. If you think what she said is incorrect, then educate her. Don’t insult her. Otherwise you just prove yourself the one that is not not not very smart.
0 likesHer defense makes me furious
0 likesThis is completely baffling
0 likesHer lies remind me of my ex. Heh.
0 likes1:03:03 - is that judge asleep?
0 likesLet's be honest we all know she's guilty. She murdered her daughter in cold blood, the fact that she got off with only 4 counts of giving false information to a law enforcement officer during a murder trial is obsolutely horrid.
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I don’t know how those jurors sleep at night!
57 likes@αɴαнαтα love If I was guilty I wouldn’t want anyone to help me get off. But then again I’m not like most people.
8 likes@Alvaro aka Tico well of course! i should have said "if i was a despicable piece of shit i'd hire baez to win my case"
22 likes@Fred D. then i found out the judge didn't give specific instructions for the jury not to try to figure out how she died,but to know caylee died from a homicide, and was casey the one who did it. so the fact they couldn't prove exactly how she died they somehow found her innocent because baez hammered in that 'reasonable doubt'.
3 likesit's almost certainly because she is a woman
18 likesIf a man was in a similar situation he would be convicted
@αɴαнαтα love he's a POS for doing his job?? Excuse him for trying to feed his family
1 like@Hancock never said baez was a pos. in fact i said he was a good lawyer. reading. look into it.
2 likesI've always thought her daughter died from over dosing on the xanax that Casey was giving her so that she would stay asleep while she partied. Does that classify as murdering someone in cold blood? I dont think she actually meant to over dose her but it happened, and she hid the body in the trunk of her car. Maybe its from this video, theres an interview with a guy that went on a date with her before Caylee was dead. He said they went in to a restaraunt and ate and left Caylee in the car because she was "passed out" so hard.
4 likes@Atlantis IRL That would still be murder but not in the 1st degree. And no thats not what happened. The defenses official story was that she drowned in a pool by accident.
5 likesI don't know if there is enough evidence to say she murdered her in cold blood. I think what's very possible is she was neglecting her daughter to party, and the daughter died from neglect because she wasn't being watched, maybe got her hands on some pills and overdosed, maybe just got hurt while Casey was high etc. I think an issue with her not serving time is that she was "overcharged" when there was not enough evidence for the specific charges. Saying "but she's suspicious af" is not enough evidence for a court if you have good lawyers. She could have been charged with child neglect, and then had they been proven the neglect lead to her child's death, she would be serving time.
3 likesi cant watch any more of this how long did she get
0 likes@Jay Bby Nada
2 likesThe legal system and family court are very biased for women.
2 likes@Fred D. It's a great system. What would you prefer? To have you fate decided by a "team of experts"?
1 likeShe's actually innocent
0 likes@CVLT.45 Haha. I see what you did there. She's innocent but she definitely killed her toddler.
0 likes@αɴαнαтα love wait, what?!? The judge said they couldn’t let them know she was suffocated?!?
0 likesWell that changes things drastically!
The most damning (imo) piece of evidence is her googling how to suffocate someone the day her daughter went missing, but that wouldn’t mean much if I didn’t know she died of suffocation!
Casey Anthony affirms the "negative" stereotype of hot girls being crazy.
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Yeah. Same with Jodi Arias and that Tennessee chick who said “I gave him the nose job he always wanted” after killing her ex.
0 likesHorrific tragedy.
0 likesJuliette Lewis exists! She's a great actress, unlike this woman 🙄😂
0 likesIf the baby drowned at the pool then why did tape???
0 likesWhen a pathological liar meets a professional liar, they can weasel their way out of anything.
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How is it not against the law to say in your opening statement that the child died while drowning. But in the closing statement says that we could never know what happened to the child. Are We(the jurors) really that dumb?
70 likes@Josh Willes I believe he was saying that because the drowning part is also an unproven story. This is exactly the game he wanted to play, creating enough confusion that the jury would not be able to find her guilty.
48 likes@Josh Willes Prosecutor opening statements are not an explanation of just the facts per say, they are for the prosecutor to paint the overall picture of the crime they believe occurred. They take the facts and add in speculative details, like how exactly Caylee died when it wasn’t proven, to try to tell the whole story.
0 likesDream team
2 likesJosh Willes because that’s the story they are going with. at the end they say it can’t be proven either way, but casey’s testimony/whatever is that the child drownef
0 likesExcept the afterlife
2 likesI read the prosecutors book and I read Jose Baez’s book. I would def recommend people read them both.
0 likesPerfect comment. The whole thing in a nutshell.
0 likesThe defendant... De donde sacó Tanta cosa ....Parece que dice cosas que nunca se dijeron..
0 likesDid she forget that orphanages exist. She didn't just want her kid gone, she wanted to take a life. If she didn't want the kid, no one else could either.
0 likesWas she not guilty for all of her charges?? Did she not go to jail im confused it literally seems like she got rid of her baby so she could live the party life like wtf why not just give the baby to her parents
0 likesShe chose nightclubs over her child... Like... Wow...
0 likes“You see, my child drowned in the pool, duct taped her own mouth and nose, and after she died, I decided to dump her body in a swamp. Also my car smelling like a corpse and my google searches of how to best suffocate children are totally unrelated. During this time I was out partying and didn’t report anything. Also I didn’t tell my parents she was rotting in a swamp, but honestly I swear I’m innocent.”
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Jury: seams legit
554 likesMind blowing how she got away with this.
400 likesCompletely reasonable have a nice day
87 likesI was skeptical about this case. A) the family were pure psychos with bizarre lying problems, to the extent that they all kept up the appearance that she had a job B) the duct tape was on and mear the body, but thats no evidence that it was related to the death, could have been from hiding of the body and C) all the stuff about premeditated murder and a motive isn't that convicing on its own. The single largest piece of evidence is the one that jurors didn't get - the intermet searches for suffocation methods on the last day the poor baby was seen alive.
118 likes@Rashid she told her parents that when she was leaving the house, she was going to work. it makes sense that they'd believe her. it's not like you show up at your daughters work every day to see if shes actually there.
67 likes@Rashid the duct tape was primarily and the mouth and was obviously use to obstruct the airway
12 likesJury be like: understandable, have a great day.
10 likesMembers of jury: Innocent.
6 likesHaving been on a couple of juries - I can tell you anyone can get off no matter how strong the evidence. They dont listen to facts it hinges on powerful personalities in the jury steamrolling others and emotional cues by sleazy lawyers. So if you are ever charged just go for jury trial you will be batting 50/50 no matter what
39 likes"Seems normal to me ngl not guilty"
2 likes@Tony Miller facts. If I'm ever arrested for anything instead of a lawyer I'm hiring an actor. They want a show... I'll give them the best damn show ever.
12 likesIf only she used nord VPN they wouldn't have found searches. Sponsored by nord VPN
38 likes@Hatin Life Like what give some examples of these possibilities I'd really like to hear them.
16 likesOnly in America this would happen, even if she wasn't found guilty of murder in the uk she would have definitely been charged with neglect
15 likes@Bri Marie wtf she got away?? Did they at least retrial her?
2 likesShe’s being protected by the devil himself
6 likesIf you google the case you will actually find that there’s more than one juror who says they wish they’d made a different decision and at least found her guilty on one of the lesser charges. They actually all agreed that she was a terrible human being. One says the whole thing haunts him to this day and he thinks about it at least once a day. Imagine having to live like that...
17 likesI'm convinced.....
0 likes@Scrappy “I’ll fold yo ass” Doo If I’m not mistaken, she cannot be tried for the same crime twice if she was found not guilty the first time around.
8 likes@annabanananaaaa that’s tough they really should’ve looked at the facts and thought it through. Not be swayed by some con man in a suit. The internet searches and the car smelling like rotten flesh seem pretty obvious.
11 likesNot guilty
0 likesI'll never understand how she is out and free.
4 likes@Scrappy “I’ll fold yo ass” Doo No, I don’t believe so. It’s tragic!
0 likesSeems legit.
1 likeNot guilty.
Pizza, anyone?
Cant believe she’s not guilty. That’s why I think humanity is rotting itself out due stupidity. My god.
3 likes@Korey Williams Lawyers are actually the best actors. They're basically professional liars.
4 likes@ChunkyStains they did find a woman with that name and she said she's never met Casey, so besides that it was just another fabrication
2 likesI am a murderer just backwards sort of way
3 likes@Pedro Torres that woman even sued Casey for defame her name...
2 likesAnd I believe you. No guilty, you can go free. 🤦♀️
0 likes@jonuts the dank lord payton i could be wrong but didn’t they conclude that the duct tape was placed after death
1 like@elder cheese didn't they find the search results after the fact? Shits fucked man.
1 likeDefense: now lets not get emotional
2 likesJury: oh ok
@Scrappy “I’ll fold yo ass” Doo you can't, that would be double jeopardy, you can't be tried multiple times for the same offense if you were previously found not guilty.
0 likes“Also I told the detectives all fake names when they asked me who my daughter was with and completely fabricated all the details of her whereabouts”
1 likeJury: sounds about right
Excellent summary, perfect even
1 like@Tony Miller and thats why lady justice wears a blindfold so she doesnt have to see all the misconduct happening in her name
0 likes@Rashid Her parents didn't know she didn't have a job.
1 likeShe's as guilty as sin. Casey Anthony is the 21st century Lizzie Borden. Wonder if she hangs out with O.J.
0 likes@JF Sebastian shes also thinking about wanting kids nowadays
0 likes@Bri Marie feminism.
0 likesThe whitest white girl.
0 likes@Rokkudaun How else are people falling for a fake pandemic...
0 likes""judge ok ur free to go """
0 likesAnd they believed it!!!
0 likesI hope the jurors feel shame for the rest of their lives
0 likes@annabanananaaaa Honestly I have a hard time feeling bad for them. If even just one of them looked at the facts and weren't swayed by the defenses insane manipulative tactics this would have went to mistrial. The fact not one of them thought after all the fucking evidence that this was at the very least an accessory to murder is truly horrific. YOU CANT HIDE YOUR CHILDS DEAD BODY(no shit she killed her) FOR OVER A MONTH LIE TO EVERYONE TRYING TO HELP THEN GET OFF WITH A SLAP ON THE WRIST. Fucking worthless people in that jury taught a lesson to everyone if you sway niave jurors you can get away with anything no matter the evidence. Just like oj haha
3 likes@Rashid arent investigators in America not allowed to call for a retrial when evidence like that comes up? Because that sounds like damning evidence in my country that would call for a retrial
2 likesIf she was Mexican or black
2 likesShe would’ve been thrown into jail
And in prison
No questions asked
Just saying as a Mexican
@JF Sebastian She hangs out with Jodi Arias
2 likes@Tony Miller As a German I wonder why you do have this kind of trial? I mean I could get how it was used bakc in the veeeerrry old days where the whole neighbourhood or village decided upon one's fate, but now? Sorry to say that, but as a German this is completely ridicolous to me....
2 likes@Tony Miller And also why would you even have a judge when his job is done by a jury?
0 likes@annabanananaaaa hindsight 20/20 I guess
0 likesJesus this comment blew up
0 likes@elder cheese this case hearing is sponsored by RAID SHADOW LEGENDS
0 likesAnd somehow the court believed all this too
0 likesBet it'd of beem different outcome if the defense was first
0 likes@Rose prob yeah especially 10-12 years ago
1 likeit seems thats enough proof for the U.S custody system to let someone out to the streets
0 likes@Kubomi I think double Jeporady is used when somebody has already been found guilty and served a punishment, so they can’t be found guilty again. I would imagine if more evidence came up she could be re-tried.
0 likes@zagros qazy sus
0 likes@Dickinson Jay no it's written into the 5th amendment that you cannot stand trial or face punishment twice for the same crime by the same jurisdiction, so unfortunately she is free for life unless she does something else.
0 likesShe got away with it on pure technicality.
0 likesThe jury couldn't convict based on instructions to the jury, given by the judge, at the behest of the prosecution.
It didn't help that she decided to run the three ring defense 😕
Unfortunately common sense and emotions aren't necessitated in the law.
And my dad raped me but neither I or anyone else has ever mentioned it until this exact moment
0 likesIt is the justice system that let her. THIS case should be reopened for keeping the sanctity of the justice system.
1 like@Ma Ne Thats a very German response and youre right a judge would do a much better job than the average jury, The principle is you are judged by your peers who have their own opinions and biases. And often it is completely crazy - OJ trial and many many others. I guess its part of old english common law going back to village days. I served once on a rape case and of the 11 jurors - 6 or so were women and they were the ones voting not guilty to a guy that basically admitted it in his police statement. whereas the guys were saying guilty .In the end the majority steamrolled the minority and people wanted to get out for lunch despite this 19 year old future in the balance. We were also considering his punishment which wasnt our job. Most of us wanted him punished but not to the extent of the 7 years he would get and come out a real criminal by the age of 26. The verdict was not guilty the victim burst into tears I went back to work and the older women there wanted to string me up.
0 likes@Alexander Holzer .....are you white?
0 likes@Rose Of course.
0 likes@Alexander Holzer hmm..
0 likesMakes sense
@Rose Indeed, I thought it was pretty obvious from my comment.
0 likes@Alexander Holzer no shit Sherlock
0 likes@Jeff Morin Kinda true ngl
0 likesAnd folks we call this getting away with murder without any fucking consequences
0 likesShocking .
1 likeif she wasn't found guilty, who was? did they investigate further or just left it like that
0 likesGOD IS THE ULTIMATE JUDGE. WHAT SHE WILL FACE IN ETERNITY IS YET TO COME.
0 likesSo Casey will call for police when someone throws a drink at her but not when her child is missing for 30 days.. seems legit
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Yeah legit enough to even let her walk free like…wtf🤦🏾♂️
37 likes@Quashaun Drake can’t believe she pulled the rape/molestation card at the end
106 likesI saw that footage. I can't even hey🤦🏾♀️💔
3 likesSounds right to me
1 likeI knew her. She was actually a pos. I know shocking.
19 likesI want to like your comment, but it's at 699 likes and I can't ruin it's beauty
3 likesLol right 😂
0 likes@Lonr and while I wouldnt be surprised that it was true because women like her all have the same back stories unfortunately, it never truly had anything to do with the case, completely irrelevant. Everything Baez claimed the prosecution was trying to do to manipulate them, was always what he was trying to do. Ill give him credit, he was slick. I never bought in, was outraged she was let out. And it would later come out, Baez was sleeping with Casey... alledgedly. Pro-Bono iirc, and Vested interest by the end.
9 likes@Eye Conqueror pos means?
0 likesExcellent point!! 👍💯
0 likesguess she has learned her lesson
0 likes@WD as she deserves…I’m surprised there weren’t more incidents like this
0 likesFucking facts dude. My friend sent me that article literally yesterday when I began watching this episode and I was fucking livid.
0 likes@Qwerty poser i think
0 likes@Wissal Metir dang people need shortcuts for 5 letter words
2 likes@Qwerty POS means "piece of sh!#"
1 likeCasey is definitely guilty! Come on karma, do your job and get this horrible woman for what she did to that poor innocent child! Damnit I'm so angry when the justice system fails like this!! 😡
0 likesPeople on these comments totally ignore the fact that she’s a free person walking,it’s pretty dumb and I’m glad I’m not Canadian this is a joke of a sentence
1 likeWhat’s crazy is this is how crazy 95 % of woman are now a days. My sister is one of them.
0 likesWTF after all this builtup “NOT GUILTY”😡😡😡😡
0 likesI love that this channel doesn't just focus on quantity, it's always top quality videos
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Yes!
1 likeWord
1 likeGreat point! Just leaves you wanting more.
3 likeshe had to lie low a bit after the prince andrew video lol
0 likesAfter the trial, Satan immediately put Jose Baez on permanent retainer
0 likesWhere is nanyyyyyy ?
0 likesAsk her where is/was the Cassy’s daughter?
She’s like OJ..we all know that she murdered her daughter the story doesn’t even add up
0 likesTo be honest, I really don't know if she murdered Caylee or not, no one does. However, I really do believe she was involved in her death. I believe she accidentally killed her and she couldn't handle the fact that everyone would view her as a terrible mother so she did what she has always done. Lie. I think she realized that, in her mind at least, without Caylee, her life was stress free. She had the freedom to do whatever she wanted without the responsibility of being a mother. I do think she is a terrible person though, with or without the death of her child. I just thought it was odd that she kept calling the babysitter "Xanny" at some points, and that's what a lot of people refer to Xanax. I think she gave her daughter Xanax at times to get her to sleep whether as to not deal with her, or to go out and party. Maybe she gave her too much at one point and Caylee passed away from an overdose. This is just my theory because things like that happen way more often than people think. I really do not know if they did a toxicology report on Caylee and found anything, if they even had the ability to do a toxicology test in the state they found her in! I just thought it was very strange that she referred to the babysitter as "Xanny". Regardless, she is a terrible mother and that is made extremely apparent.
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It wasn’t an accident. She googled how to suffocate a child.
0 likesFriend: "If anything that happened to that baby, I'll die." (voice cracks, cries)
764 likesCasey: "OMG, what a waste of time calling you guys."
Total sociopath.
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Horrible.
21 likes...and free to roam in amongst normal law abiding citizens!
17 likesThat exchange caught my attention also.
27 likesThat was horrible.
14 likesI kept thinking about her poor heartbroken parents. Sure, they protected her from the consequences of her pathological lying when she was in school and some of the blame for this monster is squarely in their corner...but they loved little Caylee with all their hearts and to fear that their daughter perhaps did something terrible to her must have been agony. And lets face it: some parents do everything right, raising a child with patience and love but also discipline...and still end up with a monster. Whatever
7 likestime stamp pls
0 likesYeah she was just worried about talking to her boyfriend disgusting
8 likeswell she knew they were fishing for answers. it was a ploy
1 like@Eps 25:44
1 likeIt's literally disgusting. I don't have any other words.
5 likesWhen she dies,I hope shes Alone,scared and In pain...
1 likeYawa! But no smoke can be kept forever. I still have faith that the truth will prevail. Karma is a bitch. God will find a way that the perpetrator will suffer. Maybe not in prison, but in life. I'm sorry little angel. May your soul rest in eternal peace. 😇🙏🙏🙏
0 likesShe killed her . I just don't believe this at all . Why would a car smell like a dead body come on . Yes this lawyer was good probably cause her dad is a cop and hired the best lawyer cause he's a push over for his savage disgusting daughter. Unreal this should have never went down like this she should be in jail .
0 likesshit got away with it. holy shit!
1 like107.14 that's the look of people who know something terrible just happened
0 likeseven her friend Christina started crying about the possibility of what happened to the baby girl. and this monster says "what a waste talking to you" what a horrible horrible woman!!
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Her BEST friend too! Lol wow
27 likesMan... that phone call made me hate this murderer so much, to the point where I couldn't say that I wouldn't kill her.
9 likesher best friend cared more about her daughter than she did....that says a lot to me
19 likesAfter I heard that I started scrolling down in the comments
0 likesShe was more offended that they kept talking about her missing daughter than her
1 likeBeware the party girls, gentlemen.
1 likeThis imaginary nanny watches her daughter and an imaginary little boy.
0 likes5:30 Yikes look at face. That hairline and expression says it all.
1 likeThis is ridiculous how did she win
0 likesAnd now she is making her own documentary to “clear her name” and “tell her story.” I really can’t stand this evil creature.
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Boycott ALL documentary SPONCERS and ADVERTIZERS, and let the know why.
67 likesI totally agree. She is so fucking guilty. How can she be laughing and smiling. Notice she talked about Caylee in the past tense a few times. She never even asked her parents if there was any new developments or breaks in the case. Pathological liar. Stunned she got away with this
121 likes@shelbacus oh no. what the actual fuck...
12 likesshe is the worst kind of woman
8 likes@shelbacus for fucks sake
6 likesA real OJ move right there.
13 likesShe was innocent, so why not
0 likes@Robert Xerxes 😂 booooo
2 likes@shelbacus another 3y old, damn it
0 likes@azsuter we aren’t coaxing a jury here. She was already let off. She literally made up a nanny that doesn’t exit and led police on a wild goose chase with false stories of where she worked and where she was. All while her daughter was missing for over a month by that time. Even if she isn’t guilty of her murder first hand. She is NOT innocent. Even the jury who tried her found her guilty of lying to investigators.
15 likes@Robert Xerxes you genuinely believe that she is innocent? Why?
5 likes@TheFantabulousJackson How much time do u have to read internet stranger explanation?
0 likes@Robert Xerxes as much as you can give
2 likes@TheFantabulousJackson Damn, thats what I was afraid of. Ok. Watched whole trial plus all raw footage with no commentary 3 times (some part more, total 200 hours plus easily). First time just interested and concentrated on evidence. non-conclusive. Second time concentrated on behavioural/psychological patterns. And it clicked. Third time to unclick what I seen, but it couldnt unclick. what I seen... Whole family were pathological liars with 3 strongest distinctive "masks" to cover the true. Casey wore a mask of Protector, her mum wore mask of IDontWannaKnow and daddy wore a mask of Hater. Strenghts of this masks (or u can call it hiding the true from outside world) were developed over the years before even Casey had her daughter. Daddy was control freak in "need of attention/control" and wanted be in charge of family. Little child broke this, and I dont know what happened exactly, but he hated this situation. He did sth that was a kill or "not helping person falling down the cliff" thing with the child. Casey always protected her mother from this type of abuse (before childs birth) over the years (mother never wanted to face the true and had amnesia type love for her husband). Anyway Casey developed strong lying abilities and she even protected her father even though she knew he took away the only thing she had pure and innocent. I cant tell u exact event, that would be speculation (even though I have one), but this is basic profile of the case. If he was ever tried a true would have chance to come out... sorry
2 likes@Robert Xerxes so do you think that she didn't kill her kid or that she did? I'm sorry after this I won't ask anymore (your quite the respectable person).
2 likes@Robert Xerxes also no matter how much evidence that you give, I just can't shake how suspicious it is that the day of her child's disappearance her search history was how to suffocate someone. also the diary that stated she was happy with the decision she made and how she hoped her happiness would continue. I also don't understand in the slightest how she went 31 days without saying anything and then pathologically made up people and jobs that she once had but when she was confronted with the truth it all fell apart and she still got off the hook with nearly no questions. I honestly would like to believe that she didn't but I just can't.
11 likes@TheFantabulousJackson This "masks" were super strong. You can do it through very strong trauma only, but its possible. These masks drop here and there during a trial, for few minutes or even seconds throughout hours of footage. Its rare but u can see, especiallly who is Casey and who is her Daddy. Her Mum basically wore amnesia mask. Evidence was non-conclusive enuff for court and for me too (and remember prosecutors were really after Casey). Plus u know Daddy had experience in law enforcement. But as I said evidence didnt convince me either way. Behavioral patterns did (masks and their occasional drop off is a key here)
1 like@Robert Xerxes alright well I am impressed by you and even though I still think she did it, it was a pleasure talking to you. Have a great day or night.
7 likes@TheFantabulousJackson Thanks. I also watched whole trial of Jodi. She also wore mask, but behind it was stone cold killer. Full extent of what we could find behind Daddy mask could only be highlightened if he was ever tried in court, but he was not. And Im from Poland so my day just starts. Have a good day/night too
3 likes@Jax I’m not totally sure. I think it’s still being worked on. I haven’t heard a specific date for when they want to release it
0 likesShe also is trying to start a P I company smh she's so narcissistic she is STILL trying to look innocent
3 likesBecause her net worth is NEGATIVE $1 million! She’s trying to spin the murder of her daughter to make her money!
0 likesShe filed paperwork to begin her own detective/research agency in Florida.
0 likesThe world shows that the wicked can roam free and prosper
1 likeWill you watch?
0 likes@Robert Xerxes we found a member of the jury!
3 likes@Gabriel thank you, but killer not found
0 likesShe’s very ... into herself
3 likes@Michigan 12 This is the only type of cancel culture I'm willing to participate in.
1 likeJust like Jodi arias was talking about donating her hair to a cancer hospital 🤣
0 likes@Robert xerxes hmm interesting take..but then who's the killer here according to you
0 likesWhere do these sick ppl come from???? Evil.
0 likesJust goes to show, evil and selfishness comes in all shapes and sizes. Ignorance, deniability, lying to the authorities again and again and all around behavior void of traits of motherhood and humanity.
0 likesGreat content but why do we have to listen to a robot
0 likessurprised that this video doesnt talk about how casey's own parents are of the belief that the babysitter zaneida "zanny" was actually just casey giving Caylee xanax and making her pass out so casey wouldnt have to watch her
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Definitely picked up on that when this was in the news. It was so blatantly obvious, but so many people didn't talk about it.
242 likesWow. That hurts my heart
64 likesMy jaw literally just dropped. Hurts my heart too. Some people should never ever have children.
143 likesExactly what I thought
16 likesWow 😢
6 likesWow she really was taunting the police. “My babysitter ‘Zanny’ (xanny) has her”
149 likesAnd Casey's dad firmly believes that she died after her mom gave her a pill. he's such a smart man and it is so shameful that she would say anything bad against him
89 likescould you tell me more about that pls? have the parents said something?
5 likesRip angel 🥺
3 likesI felt like shit the one time I gave my toddler a little bit of melatonin during bed time.. I couldn't imagine giving my daughter Xanax. Jesus christ.
11 likes@CrazyMiles Proselytizing will get you nowhere. Especially here.
40 likesas soon as they said “zanny” i thought, must have been what she was on
6 likesGod that hurts my heart.
1 likeJesus fuck that's horrible
3 likes@TrashKing Melatonin is perfectly fine! Not all the time but sometimes it helps and it DOES NOT hurt the children. Dont feel bad about that🥺
8 likesHoly fuck. Just got chills everywhere.
2 likesOnly in America
0 likesI noticed that name immediately!
1 likeIm asian who lives in asia, so thanks for that kernel of knowledge
0 likesWhen i heard the nickname "zanny" thats the first thing i thought of!
1 like@Gaetano the parents were huge enablers who were willing to let her hurt others and herself and cover it up to look good. Look at her history before the killling which he talks about in this video.
3 likesOuch.
0 likes@Ashley Dalton melatonin is a natural hormone that your own body makes
1 likeExactly what I thought
1 likei dont recall casey calling the nanny zanny, the narrator does, but not casey or anyone else. Am I wrong? I dont wanna rewatch it just for that.
1 like@CrazyMiles Miles of crazy over here.
1 likeyikes wtf
1 like@K D didn't happen. Watch the interview her parents gave. None of this was said and they look like they are truly believable. If that was the case the dad would still be speaking to her. He's even called her a failed child and does not want to speak to her
0 likes@Gaetano maybe they say that now but the highschool story seemed like it was well-confirmed
0 likes@Lonely Wanderer though abusing it makes your resistant to it so your own body production becomes insufficient. Hormone uses should always be used with care
0 likes@Rocky M. G. I see, didn’t know that
1 like57:34 Wtf
0 likesPS: If you hate bad endings, don't watch the conclusion.
I think she was guilty.
0 likesI just have a kid, anyway someone got the name and number of her lawyer? Just in case
0 likesHating her lawyer is the most immature, illiterate point of view.
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are we allowed to hate the jury?
0 likesShe literally cares more about being forced to eat bologna and coleslaw than she does about her daughter. Disgusting.
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In fairness if you knew what was in that bologna you'd be concerned as well.
5 likesI know!!! Like wtf does she expect?? Your in jail dummy, the foods not supposed to be good 😂
1 likeI guess its telling of how bad the bologna and coleslaw is in there
0 likesDamn Casey got that A+ lawyer
2 likesIf the toddler died in a swimming pool accident why was the little body found with duct tape covering her face ?.
0 likes"It is better that ten guilty people go free than one innocent person suffer, under the law". Still stings, nonetheless.
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Was that John Adams? I admire that man to no end but am not sure I can stomach people like this going free, however honorable that notion.
1 like@Rdwrer agreed, it makes me sick
0 likes@Rdwrer I wanna say it was Ben Franklin but I'll have to double-check that one. I agree with you. This is why we wouldn't be picked for jury duty, lol.
0 likes@emma I remember feeling extremely disturbed after hearing the verdict. Even more disturbed when she got offered to star in various porn movies. People can be monsters.
0 likesCrazy how a child’s life can be completely disregarded.
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It's a child what are they going to do? Children can't do pretty much anything against adults.
6 likesMost children can't even have a proper argument with an adult without them saying "I'm older and know better" in an argument against a child. I feel like if adults have to say no they know better then they know they are going to lose the argument.
They are monsters, not people. I knew a girl who went to school with one that gave birth and suffocated her baby at home. Went to school pretending it never happened.
24 likes@Don Gamer Guy name? Did she get news coverage? Did she just get arrested? Was she slightly famous?
3 likes@Don Gamer Guy I'm sorry to disappoint you but monsters don't exist. These are humans. They breath, eat, sleep and go to work - just like you. There are your neighbours, co - workers, brothers, sisters, parents ect. Only humans do stuff like this
21 likes@aneriアネリ I could never find the exact news report of hers. I remember reading it, but can't find it. The worst part is everytime I search for it, I find others. Hers may have gone under the radar because she could've been diagnosed with something. I have no idea.
1 like@Don Gamer Guy did anyone do anything about it? Did she just get let go with no real punishment?
1 liketrötta_hornugglan Yes. In a story.
0 likesSadly this is a common thing in America.
1 likeAnother thing is I didn’t see that mother shed a single tear for her daughter. Even with that visit with her parents she didn’t show any signs of emotion when she saw her daughters face on that shirt. She cried only when the pressure of the situation was put on her parents.
9 likesYeah, he mentions that at the beginning of the video
1 likeYoso Yes, but I’m talking about the Justice of it. They just dropped the case still not knowing who did it.
0 likesLike it's such a shock. The police can't even manage to remove children from abusive homes or place them with the safe parent. Or in a decent foster home.
3 likesIt's funny to me how the same system that tries to force the idea of having children (and disregard child free options) is the same system that lets thousands of children die at the hands of people who shouldn't be parents.
@怠惰な耳の長いフクロウ Actually, the animal kingdom is far worse. Have you ever seen a lioness eat her own babies immediately after popping them out? This is just a harsh reality for any living being.
0 likes@aneriアネリ this literally makes no sense in this case. She's dead. She can't fucking speak against anyone
0 likes@David Shaw not yall turning this into an abortion thing..
4 likes@David Shaw exactly all it boils down to is people choosing their own selfish wants over being responsible for a life that they can even choose to give to adoption instead of killing them and they can just forget about the kid if they want after that and they wouldn't have to take a life. It's just the inconvenience cuz she and maybe the boyfriend or whoever too just wants to party.
2 likes@curious Jorge *murdering the unborn thing that some people are brainwashed into being in denial of because they are selfish or relate to selfish mothers and would want to do it themselves if they were pregnant
1 like@curious Jorge did you know that also in just about every abortion they do it in a stage that is insanely painful for the unborn child who has his or her own soul and own brain and heart and dna, and the methods include poisoning them so they die twitching from nerve damage as it gets progressively more and more painful because they are being burned alive from the inside, and cutting them limb by limb as they bleed to death, finishing by crushing the skull?
1 likeWho was the dad tho?
0 likesOh my god, what a disgusting human being....
0 likesZenaida, the nanny, doesn't exist.
0 likesMe: 👁🗨👄👁🗨
wow.. !!! fking sad .. if i was the parent i will invite her over for dinner....
0 likesCan’t believe this woman is out walking free in the world.
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I know right?? I wish I could meet her face to face .....
155 likesIn a secluded area 😑
agreed! I was puking and crying my eyes out after my furboy decided to run off on an adventure. (he was found) She was WAY to calm in the videos. I've been locked up, sucks ass !Anyway, GUILTY!!!!!!!
21 likes@DR Evili think you missed the point completely
92 likesSpoiler
12 likes@dante arias this case happened years ago?? How do you not know what happened lol
5 likes@honor well, i'm not american
37 likes@dante arias Oh, ok! Sorry about that then
5 likeswait what? why is she free?
10 likes@Pilot Keep watching
2 likes@Pilot she was found not guilty.
4 likes@dante arias im 45 mins in
0 likes@haymaker 49 lmao American courts go brrr
32 likes@GøD I haven’t finished the video but have grown up in Orlando. I’m pretty sure because there was no solid evidence that proved she was the one to kill her daughter.
4 likes@DR Evil lmao?
1 like@Pilot Did you watch the video all the way through? Spoilers: At the end, the jury finds her not guilty on all accounts.
3 likes@pyromcr I agree
1 likeYeah I agree they should have at least got her on child neglect or perjury for lying to the police. Like common guys (police/prosecutors). It's sad that they didn't have enough evident to convict her but don't let her go free.😣
11 likes@DR Evil How?
0 likes@GøD your pfp too
0 likes@Dane the jury believed the bs story the pushed during the trial.
3 likes@Monica G I agree with you on that. I still believe she killed her daughter.
7 likes@haymaker 49 yeah I just feel so sad for the daughter. She was so young and didn't even live life. But the mother has the audacity to go out to party with her friends and boyfriend after her daughter "went missing". Smh disgusting.
4 likesShe just started a Private Investigation company. WTF
6 likesWhat?
0 likesNobody can believe she's walking free somewhere in this planet
3 likes@Pilot because female?
0 likes@raccy There was no direct physical evidence, there was however an abundance of circumstantial evidence pointing toward her almost certain guilt
5 likesIt still makes me mad every time I think about it. Florida is the absolute worst state in America for a lot of reasons. This is just one of them. George Zimmerman and Casey Anthony. They don't mind letting child killers roam free.
1 likeWith Covid and she moved in with one of the investigators on the defense team
0 likesThat's democracy for you. Absolutely flawed and corruptible...
4 likeslife is temporary. hell is forever.
6 likes@GettinBigFit WithTiTi doesnt make you better of a person bro
0 likesSometimes you have to take justice into your own hands.
1 likeShe is opening her own private investigation firm apparently... makes me sick to think she will be helping people when she herself is a monster 🤢🤮
1 like@Pilot The jurry found her innocent- Due to double jeopardy law, we cant charge her with the same crime so if she starts to talk about how she got away with it we can't do anything.
0 likes@Andrew Quinn democracy has nothing to do with this. It’s criminal law. Two very different things.
1 likeNOT GUILTY.
0 likesI don't understand how they couldn't disprove the child didn't drown. Wouldn't the autoposy show a difference between drowning and dying from tape over the mouth. Also how could the jury ignore her search history, you don't googe suffocation then your child dies from drowning. It's crazy.
3 likes@Banana Banana are you kidding!?!?!?!?! 🤢🤮🤮🤮
0 likesShe’s a women they can get away withh anything.
3 likes@Mr. Bones bet you'd take her in your hands alright
0 likesI’m glad
0 likes@Anti Social Media I’m glad
0 likes@Heads No one cares
0 likesYes YT she is don't deny it.
1 like"American Justice" Lmfaoooooo
2 likesMan can’t even watch this .. so gross she’s free ... and that’s why she killed her kid to be free .... GROSS.. shame on our system
4 likes@Funny Lady "She really is not free" Uh not being inside a prison for taking your child's life is free..........................................................
2 likesThey could at least of banned her from having any more children.
1 likeIt's disgusting
0 likes@DR Evil what?
0 likesVery unethical lawyer. He can’t lie but did because his career was put in the spotlight and I’m sure he profited off this.
0 likes@Raphael B
0 likesEh.... Depends on how you look at it. An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. Justice for the innocent, persecution for the guilty 🤷
The fact that she got away just proves how wrong the american system is and how disgusting a lawyer can be. He said she was innocent like he believed in it. But I know that EVERYONE that watches this video can only determine that she's guilty af. Poor little thing would be 16 years old. I am not religious so i don't know if there's an after life. But those of you who believe in it I just ask you to pray for her soul. Rest in peace Caylee. Born without a father and died by her mother's hands.
0 likesoh god that little girl would be the same age as me
0 likesSHE'S GUILTY WHAT THE FUCK
0 likesNOT GUILTY????
0 likesi think the first thing that caught my attention with her is she like seemed to know every little detail of these people she would talk about. like how do you know she's always used both last names ever since her mom remarried like what? how do you know where and how long each of her family members have lived? like it's this crazy level of specific detail that almost no one would ever know about co-workers or people they employ. it very much feels like the same as when someone writing a story is doing a rough draft of quick facts about a character.
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i noticed that too. like in the beginning, it makes no sense that she would share that information when you look at the urgency of the situation bc it was practically pointless.
75 likesI thought the same!
5 likes@LuxLoose for real, it is literally appalling to me that these people voted her not guilty after all the damn manipulation she did. And you trying to tell me that couldn’t catch her lying once in court after all of the damn lies she told previously?
22 likesShe would study every little detail posible about her lies so that she could make it seem credible , making it seem like she actually knew these people and places , she had every answer already memorized , it’s common on people who lie a lot to over-explain things while lying
16 likesExactly, anything’s real when you make it up.
2 likesThere's a specific spot she gives away her story telling technique. He asks what race the babysitter was, she says mixed, black and (pauses) Puerto Rican. She pauses because she's in real time telling a story and knows the perception of saying Mexican, would be "that's what people make up." So she jumps to something less common and therefor more believe in her eyes. We only know this because of hindsight but in real time that's a scary mf talent to have.
26 likesGood point. And I don't think the cops were fooled. But like they said, most people got sucked in because she could do it so fluently. Entire stories and details just flowed out of her without stuttering or hesitation. Only a psycho could do that.
10 likes@TheShibaFather thing is, I only know of people in Mexico, central and south America who do the 2 last name thing. I live in a predominantly Puerto Rican neighborhood and don't know a single one who does the 2 last name thing. but hey, I could be wrong
4 likesOMG that's what I noticed too!
0 likesGood point
0 likesdefinitely i tactic guilty people use to deflect direct questions. almost every guilty criminal does this and to me it instantly is a tell
2 likes@Holly Taylor
0 likes🤣🤣🤣👍👏👏👏
And she is a pathological lier which means they lie in a lot of detail
0 likesThat’s a psychological liar for ya
0 likes@Austin Shooness Hindsight is always 20/20 and it is so easy to say you’d get it right when you weren’t there in the middle of the case.
1 like@Austin Shooness she never testified in court. There was very little evidence of any real value. I think the jury was right to give a not guilty verdict. It wasn't like 11/1 guilty to not guilty either, there were 10 people that thought she was not guilty as soon as deliberations started.
1 like@Red agreed! Although she seems like a cold hearted mum along with being a efficient liar..the state failed to prove that she killed her child with solid evidence...so it was really easy for the defence to make her to found not guilty...man but she is scary.
1 like@Austin Shooness unfortunately the prosecution failed miserably at proving beyond reasonable doubt that she did it. They had very little physical evidence most was circumstantial. Which can be easy to rip to shreds and input enough doubt. I’m honestly impressed with the jury for remaining impartial and actually keeping emotion out of it and looking at only facts and the facts didn’t paint a clear portrait of who did. The fact paired a fuzzy picture that resembled Casey. It’s unfortunate that little Caylee got no justice.
0 likesi have a friend who is a pathological liar, who lies about every stupid little thing all the time, and makes up ridiculous unimportant details like that all the time. luckily she's not also a psychopathic killer, but still....the behavior casey portrays here is like identical.
1 likeShe could have used her 'Talent' to do great things in world of literature.
0 likesI am sure she would have ranked number one On NYT BEST SELLER.
Same. I was like, who knows your coworkers middle names? That poor guy that quit work in 2002. Imagine getting pulled I to a national kidnapping case and them asking you to contact your previous nanny for your non existent children. What the actual fuck?
0 likesbUt she totally did it...
1 likeIt was just a late term abortion.
0 likesThe fact that her lawyers persuaded the jury to rule by emotions instead of the blatant evidence was so disgusting and then at the end calling the other lawyers disgusting for doing their job for trying to get Caylee some justice. Ugh gross
64 likesAs a father, I couldn’t imagine firing all pistons to find my son, like if he gets lost in a store, I panic and none of that is here. I especially couldn’t imagine lying to investigators to find him. After seeing so many interrogation videos, she’s obviously deceptive and it makes me want to scream
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Are you sure you're son is actually your son? DNA test says what?
0 likes@King Bee What are you even trying to say here? Like, leaving aside how ridiculous that claim is have you never heard of adoption? DNA is not a prerequisite for parenthood.
3 likes@King Bee
3 likesWow, someones got some massive projection issues going on here.
Most people dont need dna tests to know their children are their children. Sounds like you got some issues bruh.
The oddest thing was in court she immediately stopped crying when she heard she was going free.
29 likesWhat I learned from this case is these ppl, her and her parents didn't deserve this little girl. She was taken away forever. Saved from much worse. They'll never see her again. That's a relief to me. This and the Watts case. They are free.
What is crazy to me is she did not call the cops about her daughter being missing but could call the cops on someone who spilled a drink on her at the bar in a heartbeat 🙄
33 likesI don’t know if I’m reading too deep into this but at 29:48 when Casey tells her parents, “Caylee’s been so lucky” her mom looks so heartbroken, almost as if her wording it that way was confirmation that Caylee was gone. It’s so fucking sad.
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i caught that too, it's hard to tell what the mum's truly thinking when she talks to Casey though, because she's threading the line of trying to extract information
11 likesYa same she grabs her mouth her whole face collapsed when casey says "has been" Casey seeing this changes it to "still is" but you can see the mother knows now
16 likesFor sure
1 like@Dreamk The only thing about that is that her mom wasn't on the phone to actually hear what the monster said.
0 likesIt's obvious to anyone that she is the cause of her daughter's death, whether directly or indirectly through neglect, and that was 100% a Freudian slip. But her mother didn't hear that slip when she "reacted".
The victim was Caylee, a small innocent child who was suffocated to death. The daughter of a not guilty irresponsible mother. The law system in America is unfair. These lawyers who defend people like Casey need to find a new job. This makes me mad and sad.
5 likesGood Lord, the amount of dread I felt after this video made me nauseous . How could the jury come to that decision?! With all the evidence given She should’ve at least gotten Child neglect! Especially under the circumstances not telling anybody that your daughter has been dead for a month should be damning in of itself, With the girls corpse had tape on her mouth!Even if what the defense said was true and Caylee drowned in the pool by accident then Why did Casey hide the body and put duct tape over her mouth?! The jury was missing so many brain cells. Casey Anthony is a menace to society as a whole now people like her know that they can get away with whatever they want
2 likesThis is an injustice
1 likeSaying not to rely on emotions while playing with the jury's emotions is despicable
So much evidence was against her, yet the emotional manipulation won out
Just wow
she killed caylee no doubt, waited that long to report her missing so she’d make sure her body would be so decomposed that if there was any slight pieces of her DNA on caylee that it would be gone. so twisted.
25 likesI can't believe this trial ended up this way! What about all the lies she told and the lack of remorse? Isn't that suspicious enough? What about the pics of her while her daughter was disappeared? I think Justice is an illusion, people. A waste of time
2 likesThe fact she was able to speak so eloquently during the interviews really tells you all you need to know about where her mind was
1 likeThe fact that i am a 15 year old child and know that she was the main reason for her daughters death is telling. I could list a 100 and 1 reasons as to why she's guilty . This was one of the dumbest videos i have ever saw in my life, justice was not served one bit.
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0 likesWhen this case was happening I was only a teen and didn’t understand how strange she acted after her daughter was gone. Now being a mom I’m fucking disgusted at her behavior. I wouldn’t be able to live without my child. I wouldn’t be able to breath air or eat knowing my baby was gone. She’s fucking scary and a monster. RIP sweet Kayley 👼🏼🕊
7 likesIt’s horrifying that this woman is free and living her life deemed not guilty
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She was found not guilty because the prosecution couldn't prove that she was guilty. Simple as that lol.
0 likes@Th3Gam3925 yeh thanks mate, got that part. It’s still just beyond fucked up
2 likesI love how she's trying to act like she's just having a casual conversation with acquaintances and not wearing handcuffs while talking to detectives about her missing child in a police station. 🙄🙈😂
9 likesThat was truly disgusting to see a case of murder in vein and self-interest laid in front of you and, though I'm not blaming the law enforcement and those that handled the case, to see those who could have done something be tricked. I'm against death-penalty personally, but still, I would have liked to see her own up to her actions and receive some sort of federal punishment. I know that through a video such as this one simply floating around on YouTube with the same goal as them all: To Please and Entice Viewers, it is possible that some of the FACT is really Fabricated Actually inCase you were wondering Tacos. So I guess it would be more 100% accurate for me to place this into more of a fictional point of view. But even then it feels kind of wrong because this is a REAL case, REAL people were hurt and REAL people are responsible and in this case REAL people were not held responsible. To end this paragraph of contradiction and confusion, all I have to say is wherever Caylee exists, whether there is a heaven sort of place or if it is only in the hearts of people who knew her like her grandparents, I hope she rests peacefully.
0 likesHer attorney is as good at using his charisma to persuade the jury as she is.. so shocked and outraged by the outcome… there needs to be a retrial
0 likesAnd to the jury…
16 likesThe fact that she got a tattoo that says
“Sweet life” DURING the time her child is MISSING????
And you people can’t see ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT????
Along with all the other obvious facts in this case????
Y’all sucked that up BIG TIME!
how is searching “fool proof suffocation” and then finding her child dead by suffocation not enough evidence to charge her with anything ????????
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lmao they did charge her. what are you even saying?
0 likesthey did, what?
0 likesJCS is brilliant. I hope they can keep posting. I'm a writer and working on a story involving a woman who kills her daughter. The insight I've gotten from JCS is invaluable.
0 likesI think what is bothering people and me included is that criminal charges are not solved with a balance of evidence from both parties, it is not about whose evidence is more convincing. The defendant is either guilty or innocent and she is presumed innocent until the prosecutor can meet the burden of proof that basically has to be facts pointing that the defendant is guilty without any reasonable doubts. Basically, imagine a balance scale, and we think that both sides of the scale should be at the same level at the beginning before any evidence is presented, and whoever presents more convincing evidence that can weigh the scale more wins, but it is actually not. The defendant's side of the scale is weighted down by presumed innocent while there is nothing on the prosecutor's side of the scale and the prosecutor needs to provide evidence that is factual and directly pointing to the defendant being guilty and then the scale would be shifted. If the prosecutor's evidence isn't enough this happens, and the moment the prosecutor succeeds in shifting that scale is when the defendant needs to bring out the evidence to shift the scale back or raise any reasonable doubts in the evidence presented by the prosecutor. In our mind the defendant's attorney doesn't have any evidence that she didn't commit murder either, however, it is not required. All the defendant's attorney did was not to let the scale be shifted which is partially mentioned in the video and therefore the defendant's attorney's closing statement should actually be part of the reason that she is found not guilty: the evidence presented by the prosecutor was not concrete enough even though it did provoke the jury and us to think that she is the murderer, the defendant's attorney dismissed these thoughts as being emotionally biased or simply reminded everyone that thoughts shouldn't be what the jury's votes are based on which is painful to say but true.
1 likeEdit: This comment is just what I get from what happened in the video and the wiki, it is in no way perfect, and I am not claiming that anything is unfair. I am open to any corrections.
this is so sickening i am extremely attached to my mom this breaks my heart that she doesn't care about her daughter at all it breaks my heart that the parents care so much about her too
0 likesWait, so you're telling me that this women is actually free and living her life as if nothing has happened? What happenend to the lies she told the police, shouldn't she at least get arrested for those?
1 likeIt's very unfortunate for the victim that the prosecutions didn't go straight to the case and show the evidence because as shitty as it might sound her attorney was right, it's only evidence and proof that should matter and the only thing that they failed to give and thus bringing no justice to Caylee's murder. Such a shame!
Honestly the stuff human beings do is so beyond me especially how she has a great mother and she came out horrible
3 likesHer mom wanted to look her in the eyes to she if she was lying. She knew her mother knew and that's why she started crying. After years of pathological lying her mother can see past it now
0 likesInteresting how what seems to be a sociopath was sexually abused in their youth (allegedly). Isn't that a characteristic shared with a few psychopaths / serial killers?
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it´s a pattern that repeats quite often: People with untreated trauma from childhood abuse often become abusers themselves.
1 likei havent seen anybody mention this but its lowkey really funny how casey's family and friend just wasted her time on that call, she deserves it
1 likeThis whole story is just the perfect representation of Justice in America. An orgy of evidence that would make a mystery writer blush, and she gets off.
1 likeCasey is incredibly good at laying! I would have believed every word! She is relaxed and confident. And so, in the end, the child drowned and then got buried and not reported missing until the grandma insisted to seeing Calee... Casey is so obviously guilty.
0 likes- diary entry
15 likes- google searches
- lack of concern
- pathological liar
… dude America needs to fix its system
There's a quote that says: If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. Not sure where it came from or who said it, but that eventually did not work with the detectives.
0 likesWhen I saw this video was over an hour, I was thinking no way I'll make it or care. .. I'll give it 15 min.
0 likesThis was so good and such a bizarre circumstance I easily watched the whole thing!
Great Video!
Да еще в процессе допроса все было очевидно 🤦♀️ Судя по временам глаголов она сначала говорит, что Джульет работает прямо сейчас в парке, и прямо сейчас занимает там должность, и прямо сейчас они работают с ней вместе, и через несколько секунд на тот же вопрос отвечает, что Джульет переехала и больше там не работает. И никто не задал ей простейшего очевидного вопроса - как так, вы же только что говорили другое? Можно было вывести ее на чистую воду за пару минут. Что за интеллекты.. 🤦♀️ «Кейси невероятно хороша в эффективном использовании манипуляции» - так хороша, что любая русская школьница поймала бы ее на лжи и вывела на чистую воду за несколько минут 😂 При разговоре с родителями она вообще прямо проговорилась, что ее дочке повезло, что они «были» ее бабушкой и дедушкой, и потом с опозданием тут же поправилась - «и есть» 🤪 Интеллект рыбки у вашей эффективной манипуляторши - у нас дети в детском саду логичнее фантазируют)))
2 likes«Она говорит так убедительно, что в другой ситуации у вас не было бы подозрения, что она лжет» - да у нее самое очевидное поведение лжеца, причем на уровне неразумного подростка, а не хитрого взрослого. Она к своим годам взрослой тетки оказалась вообще неспособной нормально соображать: взрослый человек до сих пор не в курсе, что нельзя просто прийти и придумывать противоречащую через предложение чушь и думать, что, если ты будешь на вид уверенной (вообще нет), то все сразу скажут - а, ну ладно, тогда перестанем искать пропавшего ребенка)) Это интеллект недоразвитого подростка, вот и все «убедительные таланты манипуляторши». И все эти «странные разговоры» не что иное, как огромный страх осуждения толпой людей, что все узнают, кто она есть, а плана с ее интеллектом - никакого, и делать что - непонятно. Ее единственная цель и забота была все это время - не дать ненавистной толпе решить, что толпа ее сломала: и для этого не показывать виду, что ее волнует все происходящее, чьи-то обвинения и чьи-то мнения. Но прикол в том, что люди, которым действительно плевать, не шипят на недогадливых родственников в телефон, и не пытаются все время корчить из себя добродушного улыбчивого человека в беседах с детективами: они ведут себя свободно, не перед кем не заискивая и наплевательски. А ей плевать и на эту дочь, и на этих вообще ни черта не понимающих, видимо, всю ее жизнь, родителей, и всех этих родственников-подруг, которым тоже до сих пор не очевидно, что должно было стать очевидно с самого начала всей этой истории, - но ей не плевать на себя любимую. Подруга вообще не фонтан гениальности: реально сидела и думала, что во всей этой ситуации убийце станет очень интересно, что же там думает эта подруга на этот счет и как этой подруге - десятой воде на киселе - будет плохо: даже странно, что героиня не послала эту подругу) Имхо она сидела и проклинала тот день, когда эта дочь родилась и «испоганила ей жизнь», ее очень сильно волнует она сама - маленькая сладенькая принцесса, которой зачем-то природа всучила этого ненужного ребенка и окружила этим недогадливым всю жизнь окружением. И имхо больше всего ей хотелось, чтобы весь этот недостойный ее мир выкусил и не получил от нее ни одной эмоции и ни одной слезинки, которых не достоен и не заслужил, - и всем этим «идиотам» не удастся наслаждаться ее эмоциональным падением на их глазах: вот что ее на самом деле волновало все это время - но при этом ей было именно важно, чтобы мир не почувствовал, что положил ее на лопатки. И в этом большая разница с теми, кто говорит миру «выкусите, идиоты» и при этом действительно плевать хотел на мнение этого мира.
the way she laughs about the gross food in jail like its a summer camp or something... disgusting
3 likesShe lied her way out of this… I am in shock
1 likeThe defense can apparently make up any unproved possibility as an alternative to suffocation which seemed to be proved. He may as well have offered alien abduction . Maybe this jury would have bought that too.
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Yes, I don't know why JCS seems to think he did a good job. It's immediately apparent that he's as sleazy and cartoonish a defence lawyer as the worst daytime movies have to offer. This was completely on the jury. They let probably the worst murderer I've ever heard of go free.
1 likeNone of this made sense until her relationship with her parents started to become clear, then it all made perfect sense.
0 likesBest friend: "If anything happened to the baby I'll die." Casey: "Calling you guys was such a waste." WHAT? I genuenly can't believe there's ppl like this out there.
0 likesWHO IS RESPONSIBLE?
1 likeJuries across the country make decisions every day on the fate of defendants, ideally leading to prison sentences that fit the crime for the guilty and release for the innocent. Yet a new Northwestern University study shows that juries in criminal cases many times are getting it wrong.
How was this okay? How did she never go to jail, get a single charge, and avoid getting killed by an angry mob afterwards? It's a mystery how nobody killed her?
0 likesShe’s good at keeping her lies going but jcs why aren’t you posting anymore I keep rewatching your videos at work😔 you get hella views im sure YouTube paying you good keep going!
0 likesI recall she had put her in an oven at home, Casey Anthony had put her daughter in an oven.
0 likesThis was absolutely changed, and the whole thing about the father abusing Casey, thats new.
It would be a shame if someday, someone were to treat Casey they same way she treated Caylee
0 likesI wish I worked with Juliette Lewis. She's my favorite Hollywood Actress! Casey Anthony is such a terrible liar. I can't believe this woman got away with this.
0 likesThese videos are so informative!!!!!! Do you have a psychologist working for you????
0 likesI feel so bad for Casey’s Dad, how do you ever talk to your daughter again after she not only got away with murdering her daughter but did so by accusing you of molesting her for years…
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Exactly!
59 likesI feel nothing for her father he is 50% of the reason that that monster it’s still here walking freely.
185 likesHonestly I hope that he has a good relationship with his son and the two of them stay far, far away from Christine and Casey.
18 likesi feel like if i lost my baby granddaughter nothing else would really matter at that point
21 likeseven if the parents did spoil her i feel awful for her father imagine the betrayal
42 likesBold of you to assume her family talks to her after what she did.
12 likesThe unfortunate thing was that the prosecution was fighting an uphill battle from the get-go. They had no proverbial smoking gun, this allowed the defense to play on the emotions of the jury through psychological manipulation.
17 likes@DamiantMod1 it was more the mother IMO
1 like@Sofia D'addario he was thrown under the bus so hard!. And being accused of child molestation, theres nothing worse. The defense really did a number on him.
14 likesDenise Pleines Unfortunately complacency in the situation can be just as much to blame as the initial act itself.
1 like@Liquid Sleep Games you are right. The dad has admitted he hasn't talked to her in years
19 likesso messed up
1 likeI mean, perhaps that was true, but then that should be addressed in a separate trial
2 likes@A Smith was that in a video somewhere
2 likesI remember reading somewhere that Casey’s parents claim that they strongly believe she did it. Imagine losing your granddaughter, having your daughter claim you did it and molested her when she was young, know that your daughter did it but she still gets to walk away free and live her best life... I feel so bad for them! I hope someone would reopen the case and fight to have her thrown in prison to rot!!
14 likesfrom what I've heard he doesn't talk to her, they're not on speaking terms at all
1 likeHer dad doesn’t talk to her anymore and thinks she’s guilty (sort of), her mom however is in denial. There’s a documentary on Hulu about her parents years after the trial.
6 likes@Loker22 I feel like sometimes in these big, hyped up and super publicized murder trials, the prosecution is so sure of themselves and trying so hard to show it to the world, that they make dumb little mistakes. Just like in the OJ trial, making him put on the gloves...just so stupid. And I think here maybe the prosecution didnt try to connect with the jury as much, like the video said too. It's just mindblowing to me when they have these cases where theres SO MUCH evidence that they could screw it up u kno?
8 likes@Loker22 omg that sounds JUST like the documentary on netflix called "where is little Gregory?" I THINK that's what it's called, but it's in Germany, if I remember correctly...it maybe italy... I'm sorry it's been a bit since i watched it. But its been decades and no ones ever told of who killed the small 4 yr old Gregory. These cases are so sad...family never gettin closure, and the victims never getting justice. I'll check out that case u mentioned, too. And what u said about OJ was VERY funny and true! Best acting hes ever done that's for sure!
1 like@Megan Young is "where is little gregory" the case of a boy found dead in a well? If i remember right, there was a story of a child who fallen in a well in italy and they arent able to bring it up from there because it was too deep. This story is from '80 or maybe before
0 likes@Loker22 omg that's HORRIBLE. But no, this boy was taken when he was right outside his front door, playing unattended for just a few minutes. Then, around an hour later an anonymous man who had been threatening the family for years called and said he killed him and he could be found in the town river. It was so fast, then there were many suspects, ANOTHER death, crazy publicity...and it's like 30 or so years later and the killer has never been found.
3 likes@Megan Young oh yeah this case about you ve just written is similar to the "Denise Pipitone" case (its the name of the missing little girl btw). I cant imagine to be one of those families who lost a child and they will probably die without knowing what happend to her child, where is he/she, where is the body or who kidnapped or killed her/him. Living the rest of your year with this monster who affect your brain, that dont let you sleep well, dont let you be able to smile again. Damn, i cant even think about it
0 likes@Maryam M She was found innocent of the charges. Once a defendant is found innocent of charges, they can't be charged for the same crime. That's written into the 5th Amendment.
3 likes@Loker22 I can't think about it, either. If anything had happened to my kids, I would be a basket case right now. Heck, I was freaking out when I lost sight of my then-3-year-old son for a couple of minutes in a medium-sized supermarket. And that was in a relatively safe country (Japan). I can't imagine what it's like when your child has been missing for a long time.
1 like@Mikenekosama exactly, if you get distracted with your baby child in a public place for 1 minute, you could regret it for the rest of your life. The case of "Denise Pipitone" in italy was not her mother fault. Denise (the little 4 yo child) was with her grandmother at home in a poor populated street of a poor populated city and she vanished at 11a.m because her grandma was cooking and Denise gone playing in the street for a couple of seconds. I cant imagine what her grandma had passed trough this years.
0 likes@Loker22 I am glad that my kids made it to adulthood (although they both had big medical problems at one time during their childhoods, but the Japanese health care system took care of their problems). Both kids were within minutes of losing their lives at one point. I was out of the country when one of them had spinal meningitis, but the Japanese doctors took care of that thanks to their mom and grandparents. The other one had suffered acute asthma and we got her to the hospital with only 10 minutes to spare. Both times scared the crap out of me.
1 likeGood parents want their kids to live, to prosper, and to succeed. I can't imagine any parent who would not want that for their kids!
@Mikenekosama parents who dont care about their parents dont even deserve to be called parents.
0 likesI'm glad your kids are fine
Haley, what is the name of the Hulu documentary
0 likes@Mikenekosama i know and that’s what’s making me so mad!!! I saw a video of her not too long ago and I can’t believe she called the police within five minutes when someone spilled water at her leg but she waited for a month to report her daughter missing- UGH I HATE HER!!!
0 likes@Lauren May Agreed, If she was really abused by him, she would have never let her dad touch her daughter.
0 likesThey did an interview with her parents where he basically said she’s dead to him. He wants nothing to do with her.
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0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
Maybe he was part of the whole thing. I mean after all... Her genes had to come from somewhere.
0 likes@James Herer isn’t Christine the best friend who was worried about Caylee? what did she do wrong?
0 likes@Lauren May so so true...nothing but the devil for real....such a bizarre and heartbreaking case....
1 like@James Herer Christine?
0 likesI think that most believe that she is lying, and don't think he really did it. But it's fucked up that she attacked his character like that, because that can EASILY ruin your reputation and fuck your life up. Which is awful when you never did it 😢😢😭😭😭
0 likesShe may get away with it for now but not on the day of judgement
1 likeThis "not guilty" verdict still angers me!
0 likesHer attorney did a damn good job but I wonder how he gets any sleep at night and sees his own kids knowing he defended a cold-hearted monster from strangling her own daughter.
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Maybe she’ll never kill again. Hopefully not. Seems like she just couldnt take motherhood. Plus she has to live with herself but seems like she really has no remorse. RIP Caylee
40 likesShe lives with him lol.
21 likesMaybe he forgot about it after seeing big fat bundles of dollar in his account and his Children in some rich folk school.
98 likes@Angela Izzo what??
10 likesAccording to a statement she made to a news station she sleeps pretty well at night
11 likesOhh gosh...
1 like@No Homo my god was he not sacred for his own life? Damn!!
9 likesNot thinking straight under her spell probably
3 likes@ginsnow OMG! Zenaida is real?!
1 like@BrymalDX yes. She’s real but she doesn’t know Casey Anthony at all.
2 likesGuys, come on. Don't prove the "Youtube Commenters are stupid (mentally) 12 year olds" trope true.
18 likesNow I don't know what happened between her and her Lawyer in this case, but do not dare assume a Lawyer defending a monster must be a monster themselves, or just being greedy, or blame them for whatever outcome.
The vast majority of Lawyers representing criminals do so because of a believe that the Law applies to everyone, and everyone deserves a defense in their favor. You know, Human Rights and stuff. All are equal before the Law. Things we in our world fought and died for so, so many centuries.
What exactly do you guys want? That the accused gets no Lawyer? No defense? Is that the world you want to live in? Fine, then move to North Korea, or China, or parts of Russia and see how you like it there. See if you think that way when you or anyone you love ends up on the wrong end of the Law and is subjected to a Kangaroo-Court.And don't think for a second just because you would never do a crime you'd never end up in that situation, because the danger of being wrongfully arrested and convicted is a lot higher in places that ignore our modern standard of Law and Order than anywhere else.
@AugustusCaesar everyone has a right to be defended and to get another chance. Thought every action has consequences (death of a child for example).
4 likesI don't think she should be punished by death (or anyone else in this world) but all the case looks weard to me like she is guilty (yes I know I'm not an expert) - the police themselves told she was lying all the time (and it's proven by facts - fake nanny, fake coworkers, fake work trip for example).
After looking at her someone could think it's OK to get away with stuff like that.
So yes for me it was so frustrating to watch not the fact the woman was being defended (again: everyone deserves that right - here I agree with you) but the way the lawyers have chosen to do that - it seems to me they were faccinated by their own art of putting people in doubt and the fact such a big case is in their portfolio now. IMHO.
@AugustusCaesar Perhaps you did not see this video. Let me summarize the situation to you. She killed her daughter, lied to her parents, lied to the police, googled how to suffocate someone and remain undetected, wrote in her diary that "she was happiest than ever" and "trusts herself that she did the right thing", went partying during the time her daughter was missing, her daughter was found suffocated and bound.
7 likesUnder an enormous mountain of evidence, what does her lawyer defend her with? well... 56:56 ... ShE wAs LiEiNg To HiDe ThE PAiN fRoM hAvInG hEr FaThErs PeNiS iN hEr MoUtH ...
That's right... she threw her own father under the bus and her lawyer dramaticized the situation as much as possible making the murderer of a child appear as a stoic rape victim.
Your entire little rant has nothing to do with the question asked being:
how he gets any sleep at night and sees his own kids knowing he defended a cold-hearted monster from strangling her own daughter
What does dismantling the modern legal system has to do with anything? Who even hinted at this? What does China or North Korea have to do with anything? What does your example have to do with anything?
You are the one supporting the trope of "Youtube Commenters are stupid (mentally) 12 year olds" . You are the one who is using a strawman to its greatest extent. Please get off your pedestal and remain within the given subject before accusing others for being ignorant.
@Mariia Oh I agree, I find it a travesty that she didn't get convicted. And yes you may question the actions of the lawyers, but again I ask you what you want from the lawyers. Not to try and get the least amount of sentence for their clients, the least which would be freedom? How would that work? Should the lawyer say "Dear Judge, my client is a monster and should spent a long time in Jail, just maybe not too long if it pleases you."?
5 likesThat would certainly please everyone else who believes she is guilty, that includes me, but it would defy everything a lawyer is supposed to be and to do. And what if we would do the above and assume a lawyer should, if himself convinced of the guilt, not try to get his client free. What if then later it turns out that person was actually innocent? "Whoops, not my fault, hahaha..."
I just really want to know what in your mind a lawyer of an accused is supposed to do. A honest question I hope you will answer.
@John doe And what does any of what you wrote have to do with the Lawyers being monsters? I absolutely agree she should have been convicted, but what do you expect the lawyers to do? Just answer me that question. Was their way of doing it somewhat underhanded? Yes, but it was the best way to defend their client, and that is exactly what a lawyer is supposed to do. Or should in your mind a lawyer not to the best to defend their client?
0 likesAnd my "rant" wasn't just directed at the OP, the original commenter, but the general attitude toward the lawyer in this section here.
"What does dismantling the modern legal system has to do with anything? Who even hinted at this?" When have I ever said anyone did hint at that? Please quote mr where I did, then I will explain myself.
I mentioned North Korea and China because these two have a system of Law that don't respect or give equal chances and a proper defense for accused. Many here have hinted that they have a problem with the lawyer doing their best to defend this woman. Hence me assuming they don't want such accused like the woman to get a proper defense, thus me making that connection.
And how am I "supporting the trope of "Youtube Commenters are stupid (mentally) 12 year olds" ? I specifically asked people NOT to prove it by being the stereotypical "Oh I wish we would just murder, torture such people and throw them forever into a hole" Commenter you see basically under any criminal Video on Youtube. I am just sick at that.
Also, what strawman? Can you quote me where I strawmanned anyone?
I’m wondering
0 likes@AugustusCaesar "Sorry, but people like you piss me off."
4 likesSince you reserve your right to be pissed off at someone for their tone, I will reserve my right to be pissed off at gaslighters, and although I will grant you that you made a mistake in the thread, I am not a mindreader. All I see is someone insisting on something that is not there.
@John doe
1 like"All I see is someone insisting on something that is not there." Except I already admitted I made a mistake and so am not insisting anything?
All I see is a Virtue Signaler who needlessly went out of his way to be condescending and aggressive when this all could have been solved nice, friendly and much quicker if you'd just politely informed me of my mistake. All, that is my assumption, so you could portray yourself as someone better, as the one who "Stops the evil that is off-railer and off-topic writer with the fist of Internet Justice!".
If my response to your polite information of my mistake would have been impolite, by all means go at me.
Yet you didn't even give me a chance to notice my mistake, correct myself and apologize before becoming aggressive, condescending and accusing me of just wanting to gain attention instead of making a honest mistake.
I do realize there are more than enough such people, and more than enough who wouldn't have admitted their mistakes after being called out, but I think it is unfair to then assume everyone is such.
Watch the interview between Derchowitz and Viva Frei. They get to the problems with the justice system as lawyers. Very revealing.
0 likesIt reads online sh nows lives with one of them. and this never looks into her boyfriend
1 likeWith the right amount of money u can sleep piecefully 🤑😪
0 likesIf you think about attorney will defend there customers wether if they are good or bad it sucks to work like that imagine you defending a criminal knowing what they did.
0 likesAren't they dating now? Or at least were by the time the trial ended
0 likes@Catarina Neto No idea. should have locked up all 3
0 likesThis thread is far too verbose for its own good
1 like@little critter Casey seems like doesn't care about anyone but herself. So selfish.
0 likesIt's very easy to sleep at night. You just feel pity for the sad prosecutor that couldn't win a slam dunk case. Easy to not feel guilt if you did your job and someone else didn't do theirs. If you can't think like that, you're not a lawyer.
3 likes@Robert Sagest Agreed. People are villifying a lawyer for doing his job.
2 likesmy EXACT thoughts
1 likeThis verdict and case bothers me more than any other. #caseyanthonyisguilty
1 likeIt’s hard to believe that she got away with murder.
0 likesHer attorney was just so much better at influencing the jury. It's not right by any means, and justice wasn't served, but there's clearly a flaw in the system if story telling skills are what make or break a case. This woman is absolutely vile. To tell such a despicable lie about her supportive and caring father in order to get away with the murder of her 3 year old daughter is beyond appalling
0 likesThe issue here is that even if Casey was innocent and did not murder her daughter, she is still the reason her daughter is dead. She was not taking care of her. She did not call the police. She went out partying right after her daughter goes missing. She wrote in her diary that she is happy now while she cannot find her daughter. She misled the police for no reason to delay the investigation.
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@Esther do you not understand looking at things from a different point of view even if not true.
11 likesI would have hung that jury to come back with some sort of child neglect, neglect of body, etc, manslaughter charge, but I didn't follow the case or the jury instructions.
0 likesI just don’t understand how she had no sort of repercussions from this. I guess it’s almost a worse thing that she will probably never truly have a life but no justice was ever attained.
9 likesYou did a better job explaining her part in her child's death in one paragraph then three attorneys for the state of Florida did over the course of six weeks.
3 likes@adam adam Well, the babysitter she mentioned didn't exist and she took police through the runaround when her daughter was dead and buried somewhere. Nothing about that says, "innocence" to me. Either it was an accident caused by her, someone murdered her daughter with her knowledge, or she herself killed her daughter. Whatever the case, she was certainly complicit in her daughter's death. First by not calling the police on day one, and second by continuing to lie to them about a fictitious babysitter who doesn't exist. I would love for there to be an investigation into this case. Re-examine a lot of things, and reopen the case with a different jury, judge, prosecution, and defense. The Jury didn't understand the meaning of reasonable doubt. The only thing they couldn't prove was the manner of death. I mean, people, seriously. Her mother had shot girl costumes, suffocation, foolproof suffocation in her internet search results prior to her daughter's reported disappearance. The prosecution had already proven involvement on some level. The criteria for Jurors was released on this case and they were looking for "independent" thinkers who "wouldn't buy into the public opinion." In doing this, they unwittingly found Jurors who didn't believe she was guilty beforehand. The incompetence in this case is frustrating but that's America. We send innocent people to prison and murderers who conspire to commit murder home. Our system is broken, our society is broken. This nation is beyond saving.
5 likesThat's the trouble with charges. They're specific. And then obv the jury factor. They'd need to go after her for different charges, but the double jeopardy thing doesn't help.
0 likesMy eyes OPENED WIDE when I heard she was found not guilty….
0 likesMy son went missing for literally 5mins but it felt like hours an I was absolutely distraught screamin his name like a lunatic x I don’t understand if you don’t want a child use contraception, if it’s accidental then get an abortion, or wait till it’s born an give the baby up for adoption x or if u want the baby but notice it’s stoppin ur life or for whatever reason again adoption is available x this is so sad x my 2 children are my world x they keep me alive on a daily basis x
0 likesFirst of all, I feel like it's not up for debate if she did it or not, it seems obvious she either did it or orchestrated it.. and the fact that she's putting up this facade with her parents during that visitation call, whew. Enough to make your blood boil tbh.
0 likesthe way she acts around the 40min mark is exactly the speech and movement pattern I resort to in a nervous conversation where I don´t know a lot about the topic but I have to make a good impression.
0 likesI imagine Thanksgiving dinners have been really awkward at the Anthony’s ever since the trial…
1 likeSo she let her daughter decompose in the Florida heat for so long that they couldn’t prove who it was who killed her or how she was killed?
0 likesHow do you let your daughter rot in the trunk of your car and not get convicted of something?!
I am quite sure every man in that room was pleased by her, but the blame of abuse went to the father
0 likesHow she wasn't found guilty is insane.
0 likesTHIS is what happens when you brag on your child and make excuses for their problems.
0 likesI can't watch to the end knowing SHE GOT AWAY with murdering her own little girl!!! How can this evil POS sleep at night??! R.I.P little Caylee
0 likesDefense lawyer: 56:35 "Caylee Anthony died on June 16, 2008 when she drowned in her family's swimming pool." He then predicates a huge defense upon that assertion, coupled with Casey's alleged childhood abuse.
2891 likesDefense lawyer: 1:00:31 "The one question - the key question - will never be answered, and that is 'how did Caylee die?'" He contradicts one main premise of his initial defense.
These jury members were intellectually unfit to be in a jury.
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This is why I refused to become an Attorney. I cannot lie this brazenly.
207 likesI mean idk, but he may have meant something more along the lines of "you think she was murdered, we think she drowned accidentally, we'll never really know the truth" but that's just how I interpreted it.
110 likes@Brynna C is your interpretation objectively more reasonable than mine? I quoted him word for word. You deviated heavily from what he said. The jury needed to vote based upon what was more reasonable and empirical.
90 likesHe wasn't saying they "think" that's what happened. Initially, he was asserting that they knew that's what happened.
Exactly his defense isn't even half decent and an incompetent juri fell for it letting a sociopath murderer like Casey walk out free making a mockery of the justice system every single person in that juri should be ashamed for their entire lives
68 likesDoesn't matter. All he did was raise reasonable doubt. That's all that matters in a criminal case.
24 likes@Xyz0321 Wer is it reasonable, though? I think that's my point here. Is it reasonable to contradict your most important assertions to create doubt? Is it reasonable to default to conspiracy-think when most of the evidence available would fit very cleanly into the theory that Casey killed her child? Any other explanation/defense is a square peg being wedged into the round hole that was the evidence. Her behavior simply cannot be even remotely explained in any other reasonable way than to begin with the premise that she wanted her child gone.
48 likesThere is nothing reasonable about doubting Casey's guilt in this case. Baez didn't present reasonable doubt - he simply gaslit a jury the way a conman sells you something you don't need at a price you can't afford. Doubting her guilt is objectively unreasonable and frankly delusional.
@Scott Demirjian Reasonable doubt is anything without proof
12 likesdidn't you know? to be a member of this jury you had to have a iq lower or equal to 65!
10 likes@Scott Demirjian that's not what reasonable doubt means in law.
5 likes@Xyz0321 Wer in law, reasonable doubt is any reason one has to doubt what the prosecution is trying to prove in its case.
39 likesSo when you take the totality of the evidence:
1) the internet searches on Casey's computer for 'suffocation' and 'foolproof suffocation' the same day (or day before) Caylee died
2) the close proximity of the body to Casey's home in some woods, double wrapped in plastic bags, put into a duffle bag, and hidden behind some logs
3) the tape placed over the nose and mouth of the body
4) the absolutely cockamamie and obviously fabricated story Casey's mother gave for why 'chloroform' was searched for on Casey's computer during the time of Caylee's disappearance (this wasn't covered in this video, but Dr. Grande's breakdown of this case covers it, and it's worth listening to)
5) her own mother's testimony on the 9-1-1 call that it smelled like a dead body had been in Casey's car
6) Casey's bewildering behavior that was specifically calculated to only mislead and confuse investigators during the entire time Casey was supposed to have been unaware that her child was deceased, but rather only missing
7) again, the defense's bumbling internal contradictions of its own premises and main points
8) Casey's diary entries explaining that she's sure she made the right decision, and that she's the happiest she's ever been literally just weeks after her child has disappeared
9) her outright fabrication of the supposed kidnapper
10) the defense's rather criminal misrepresentation of her own father, falsely alleging that he molested her during childhood (i'm amazed he never sued for defamation of character)
11) her frequent partying during the weeks after Caylee's disappearance (this speaks directly to her motive: to regain the free lifestyle she had prior to motherhood)
12) her unwillingness to report her child missing, instead having her mother discover Casey's whereabouts and phoning it in herself
13) the polarized contrast between her mother's hysterical call for help versus Casey's calm, numb, careless demeanor in that very same phone call
14) the fact that even the judge believed the state had proven their case, and was fully convinced she'd be found guilty (also in Dr. Grande's video)
(and this list goes on for dozens more points)then it really is a phantasmagorical degree of denial of the obvious to suggest there is a good reason to doubt Casey's guilt here. Sure, you could resort to conspiratorial or schizophrenic thinking like you could to doubt that the earth is spherical, or that Elvis is still alive, or any number of other obvious facts about reality, but that isn't reasonable, and thankfully, it isn't how our judicial system normally operates. It's certainly not supposed to be how it operates. I would call those 'delusional doubts' rather than reasonable ones, and I think that would be objectively true to say since every single piece of evidence points to Casey. Yet delusion is the only mental state one could assume to doubt this woman's guilt, and it's exasperating trying to explain that to people who think they've somehow championed reason or justice by defending her or unabashedly proclaiming there is any good reason to doubt her guilt. Casey's guilt is the one explanation for which every single piece of evidence is accounted seamlessly. There simply isn't a reasonable doubt to be found, and shame on anyone who refuses to call a spade a spade here.
Yeah, he must be pulling off some mind control or something, no way the jury didn't catch any one of the many countless problems in his defense 🤦
4 likes@Michael Krämer you know, I've thought this too, but when you get a sampling of 12 civilians, it tends to correct for the fallacies that an individual might not catch or fall for. Really, it's rare that such an obvious case like this one, or the OJ Simpson case (which, btw, Casey went on to directly compare her own case to in a later interview, which could be hindsight point #15 in my list a few comment above) goes awry. If you had a jury of less than about 8, you'd see far more injustice. But with 12 having to vote unanimously, this is thankfully an uncommon event. Still shameful nonetheless.
5 likes@Scott Demirjian It's still not a good system by any stretch of the imagination. Having untrained civilians play such a crucial role in high-profile (or any) court cases is utter insanity.
9 likes@Michael Krämer they're not altogether untrained, though. There's a fairly rigorous and thorough instruction they receive from the court, the judge, and legal teams on what can and cannot happen in cases, what information can and cannot factor in to their decision-making process, etc. They also cannot be felons or in poor standing with the legal system. So there is a decently reliable filtration process that aims to prevent ethically unqualified people from serving.
3 likesI'm interested in hearing your alternative methods for judicial objectivity. And I certainly don't want to be mistaken as defending the jury in this particular case. Their misjudgment here truly was a totally avoidable tragedy.
@Scott Demirjian Instructions or not, most civilians can still easily be swayed emotionally by an attorney who knows what they're doing.
5 likesThe much better alternative would be a European trial system, i.e. the judge gets to make the decision at the end of the trial, based on the available evidence, and if the defendant feels that it wasn't a fair trial, they can demand a retrial.
@Michael Krämer or perhaps simply a corrective mechanism where the judge could appeal the jury's decision, and then issue a recount where he also gets a vote that's worth, say, 3 vote counts. Then, it would take 5 of the jury members changing their verdicts to overturn the initial decision (a count of 8-7). Unanimity would then not be mandatory.
1 likeWhatever the corrective mechanism is, we clearly need one that isn't a complete affront to the judicial system.
@Michael Krämer there's actually a good answer to your initial question there. Having only a judge dictate who's guilty or not lends itself to allowing a corrupt, sleep-deprived, deceived, or otherwise unfit individual mistakenly make a call for which no checks and balances could correct. The point of a jury and its necessary unanimity is specifically to correct for an authoritarian approach to justice, and changing these laws this substantially at this juncture in our nation's history would create a profoundly unstable uproar and backlash from the public. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that. So I fundamentally disagree that juries are relics of a bygone era, and your extreme hyperbole in discussing the stature of the American judicial system in comparison to other first-world countries may be uncalibrated enough to have intelligent people altogether ignore your concerns if you aren't more careful with your word choice. It's in need of some rehabilitation, yes, but your suggested alternative simply wouldn't be the remedy you're claiming it to be, nor is it as antiquated and ineffective as you're trying to sell.
1 likeI think the lawyer said what he said at 1:00:31 because he assumed that it was not reasonable for the jurors to trust what he said at 56:35 just because he said it. He was just putting himself in the jurors' shoes. No contradiction here.
1 like@Scott Demirjian he is trying to say that they cant prove how she died. Hes not explicitly saying that she didnt drown in a pool.
0 likes@Miguel G. it's still a double standard, though. He starts by making a positive claim to knowledge about the circumstances around Caylee's death, and then finishes by speaking to the lack of knowledge about the circumstances around her death. And each of those claims is supposed to serve to exonerate Casey. This is a textbook example of a double standard.
3 likes@Scott Demirjian i understand your point of view but it all comes down to the lack of evidence. Listen, i think shes definitely guilty here. But i think the evidence is lacking for first degree murder. But the fact that she probably planned to ignore the death of her child as long as she needed to, she still deserves jail time.
0 likesThere's a special place in hell for attorneys like that, I genuinely don't understand how you could live with yourself after working so hard to let a child murderer go free. Have to wonder if some attorneys know their clients are guilty, so they're like, I'll do my job, but do it poorly so they get convicted.
1 like@Miguel G. I watched the video where juror #3 (Jennifer Ford) explains and defends her decision to vote 'not guilty,' and one of the many fallacies she repeatedly appeals to throughout her explanation is that there wasn't enough hard evidence, and that not only did she not know how Caylee died, but that she believed there wasn't one person in America who could claim to know how she died. Now, given that this woman later reveals she does believe it was a homicide, I don't need to tell you how stupid it is to couple that belief with one that no one knows what happened to her... Clearly somebody does. But the larger issue is that this juror made the mistake of only looking at one or two pieces of evidence and suggesting some possible weaknesses in them in isolation. She fails to ever address the sheer impossibility of taking ALL of the evidence in its totality and trying to retain a reasonable doubt for Casey's guilt when presented with what I spelled out several comments up: the overwhelming mountain of evidence that's all seamlessly accounted for if theorizing Casey's guilt.
11 likesThere's a motive of wanting her previous party life back, there's internet search history on Casey's computer that's perfectly compatible with the tape found over Caylee's nose and mouth, there's testimony to the smell of decomposing human flesh emanating from Casey's vehicle, there's Casey's obvious lack of care for her daughter's whereabouts during the month after she went missing, there's the total fabrication of a kidnapper and an alibi for Casey (she lies as freely as she breathes, which of course is an enormous red flag), and the list truly goes on without limits.
Look, I don't know the exact methods the contractors who built my house used to build it, but I don't question that they built it. Did they use a nail gun, or hammer the nails in? Did they ever work on it in the rain, or were they only working in clear conditions? Did they use tool belts or prefer to go back and forth to a work bench or toolbox, or perhaps both? Were any of them illegal, or were they all licensed to work in the US? I mean, I could ask a million questions about how they did what they did, and I could possibly answer many or even most of them. But some questions may remain unanswerable, and that's ok. At the end of the day, I know they built it, and I can find out exactly who had a part in building it. I don't need to know how they did it to know beyond a reasonable doubt that they did it, nor to determine who did it.
Prosecutors and defense attorneys are paid to do that. Hate the game not the player. Its your government :P also thats just human nature, people are shit. Its easy to talk shit from the comfort of behind a screen.
1 likeThough how she didnt get charged with child neglect at the least is beyond me lol
@Michael Krämer hence the title "Judge" sorry but that's the way to should be here in the United States. Ditch the jury and let the JUDGE decide the verdict.
0 likes@G.Phillips I mean yeah, that's basically what I said.
0 likes@Razakin the 'game' is designed to correct for unethical 'players' who defend obviously guilty suspects on bad faith arguments, though. In nearly 100% of cases, juries do, in fact, get these verdicts reasonably correct, but when one in 10,000 slips through the cracks, clowns like you make a point to undermine the entire American government and its judicial system as if this is some predictable pattern rather than the outlier that it is. Unlike you, I actually wasn't merely talking shit from behind a screen - I was making an observation that now over 1,000 other people have agreed with in just 3 weeks time. The system isn't broken; the jury certainly was.
4 likes@Razakin I'm a staunch anti-theist, actually. Good read.
5 likes@KB 2020 I lived most of my life in Florida. In terms of “collective IQ”, I can assure you this just feels like a factual statement. That is exactly what I thought as soon as I heard the jury’s verdict and I wondered if anyone else thought the same.
1 likeNice observation, jury should have said gotcha to defendant and convict him for false narrative and lies.
1 like@Scott Demirjian yes , you're right you quoted his exact words.
0 likesThe fact that they still claim: "We reached the verdict because the prosecutors didn't provide enough evidence" pisses me off because the defendant evidences is nearly nonexistent.
5 likes@Scott Demirjian actually i mean you just watched an hour youtube video on a court case that went on for a long time man. most lawyers have to react to new evidence and such also, and we didn’t see any of the actual trial of the case. specifically his reasoning for that claim. for all we know he could’ve explained that it was just an example and they didn’t really know. again you watched a youtube video you aren’t an expert on this case nor a lawyer bro.
0 likes@Ethan Roy how did you decide that any of what you just said was true? How can you be certain I don't have a law degree? How do you know I haven't watched the dozens of other available videos about this case, some of the jurors' remarks afterward, the judge's thoughts afterward, both lawyers' remarks afterward, etc.? Why do you think one requires a law degree to be able to identify when someone has massively contradicted themselves? I'm trying to figure out why you think you can extract so much information from my one short youtube comment, but you think I'm constrained to learn enough to form a reasonable conclusion after watching an hour of substantive content about a court case that demands no more than a double-digit IQ to follow sufficiently. Seems like a wild double-standard, and an embarrassing one, frankly.
5 likes@Scott Demirjian what makes you think you can be an expert on something by watching youtube videos on it? even if you watched everything that was publicly available on this case what makes you think you can take your shitty youtube skills and relatively unprofessional scope of knowledge of the judicial system and be able to judge a case that was put together by experts? Ive seen a thousand of you, you think that you know more than you do about everything. You don’t really know much about anything. that’s how i know you’re not a lawyer bud 😂
0 likes@Ethan Roy you don't seem to understand how logical consistency works. If someone makes a truth claim and then later makes a contradictory truth claim, they are internally inconsistent. Whether someone is a lawyer is a total non-sequitur to their ability to articulate such an inconsistency. I never claimed nor even suggested I am an expert on law. I don't have to be an expert to understand the basic concept of logical inconsistency.
3 likesYou are correct. He knew that very well, and exploited that factor to the bitter end. You can hate him or love him but he is lawyer above all else and a good one at that.
1 like@Ethan Roy ah, I see. So you think I'm mistaken for criticizing the unintelligence of others, and your way of demonstrating that I should be slower to assume the incompetence of others is to hypocritically charge me with incompetence. Perfect, keep enlightening me man. I really need your wisdom and guidance.
2 likes@Brynna C correct. He’s presenting a question of fact to the tinder of fact. People have a misconception that our legal system is aimed at discovering the truth.
0 likesThat’s not the case. The truth is impossible to know. Our system does not even attempt at it. Instead, we are aimed at coming to a legally acceptable conclusion. The jury finding that Cayley was killed or that she drowned were both legally acceptable conclusions
@Scott Demirjian wrong. He was presenting the defense’s theory of the case and contrasting it with the prosecution’s.
1 like@Scott Demirjian ..
0 likes@McGuffin Doe you don't find your second paragraph to be an obvious straw man of my position though? You're going to try to argue effectively against me with ad hominems and misrepresentation? Quite obviously my position is that the burden of proof was thoroughly exceeded when the totality of the evidence is taken into consideration, and that it's an unequivocal breech of ethics to fail to acknowledge that.
4 likesTake a moment to appreciate that you first said "The jury finding that Cayley was killed or that she drowned were both legally acceptable conclusions" and followed it up with "Legally acceptable refers to conduct of police and attorneys and judges."
Casey is on tape many times now continuously changing her story about what happened to this day. I’m hoping there’s a way for a retrial she was tried but wasn’t convicted so it shouldn’t be double jeopardy.
1 like@O RiGins you can’t be charged twice for the same crime. It’s over.
0 likesThat's Florida for ya....
0 likes@Scott Demirjian
0 likesI think the lawyer meant, "we can't prove she drowned in a swimming pool, they can't prove her mother killed her, therefore YOU will never know for certain what actually happened"
He is a very clever lawyer. Pressing for full advantage that it's the prosecutor's job to prove guilt.
@Allan Couceiro that's almost verbatim what another person commented up above in this thread. If a jury is in possession of the 15 or so pieces of circumstantial evidence and the 5 or so pieces of physical evidence and still doesn't think they, in their totality, demonstrate guilt of murder beyond a reasonable doubt, their epistemological method is fundamentally flawed to the point where they could even see video or hear an outright confession and begin forming conspiracy theories to still exonerate Casey. It's delusional not to acknowledge that she was, at minimum, criminally complicit in her child's death.
3 likes@Scott Demirjian homie, did you sit through the entire trial? Or just this awesome JCS recap?
0 likes@Allan Couceiro I've extensively combed through every detail of this trial that's publicly available lol.
3 likes@Scott Demirjian uff.. I still stand by the defense lawyer's sentiment though: "baby drowned in pool, but we can never know (ie prove) what happened, one way or the other"
0 likes@Allan Couceiro sharpen up what you mean by 'prove,' because evidence-based proofs aren't the same as, say, mathematical proofs. That's why the standard of reasonable doubt is implemented in deciding a verdict. But if you want something like a mathematical proof, you could assign probabilities to each piece of evidence that represent the likelihood that Casey did not actively participate in the killing of her child. Now, I grant that this would have some major tolerance or error constraints, and it may even run the risk of being subjective to a degree that renders it unscientific or unreliable. But I will revisit that weakness in just a moment.
2 likesSay that the search history on her computer being a complete coincidence is about 30% (what would have to be a tremendously generous value). There's plenty of room for reasonable doubt there. Allow for a 20% tolerance, and now you could argue it's a coin flip as to whether or not that piece of evidence could serve to demonstrate potential guilt. Now accompany that with her diary entries also being a coincidence, or perhaps just a total misunderstanding. Let's say it's about 75% likely that what she wrote in her diary during the time Caylee was missing isn't indicative of feeling glad that Caylee was gone (also profoundly generous to her). Give that about a 20% tolerance too. Even when taking those two pieces of evidence together, you get .3 x .75 for a probability of .225 (or 22 5%, give or take our tolerance of 20% for each piece of circumstantial evidence) that she is not guilty here. Obviously this doesn't meet the standard of going beyond reasonable doubt. With those tolerances included, we have anywhere from a 5.5% chance of coincidence (and therefore doubt) all the way to a 47.5% chance (of doubt). So, keep doing this with the other pieces of evidence. Maybe the fabricated kidnapper and alibi each get around a 30% chance of her underlying childhood trauma surfacing in deceptive fashion, but not because she killed Caylee. Give each of those around a 20% uncertainty tolerance too. Now we have .3 x .3 x .3 x .75 yielding a .02025 (or 2.025% chance) for doubt/uncertainty for her guilt. Now that looks pretty damning, but we haven't calculated it with the most charitable tolerances yet. That would yield a .5 x .5 x .5 x .95 for the doubt of her guilt, or about 12% to be uncertain to convict. Well now there's a lot more room to doubt reasonably in this case. But all we have to do from here is now factor in just another piece of evidence to realize how untenable this idea that we can't prove her guilt is. Take the smell of decomposing flesh as attested to by her very own parents. This one gets extremely hard to defend, but let's say there's an equal chance that Caylee drowned and Casey just...I guess...rode around with her dead daughter in her car instead of calling an ambulance when it happened? Set aside the psychological implications of such a course of action... Let's assign a 50% chance to both homicide and accident here (this is frankly irresponsibly generous in favor of acquittal, but I'm doing it solely for the sake of argument). Maybe tack on a 20% error for this one too. We now end up with a range of .0165% to 8.31% for sheer coincidence, and thus reasonable doubt. At this point, we are needing to opt for the highest allowable tolerance in favor of Casey's innocence for each piece of evidence to retain that 8.31% chance of coincidence and doubt. Keep factoring in all the applicable evidence as presented in the case, and that number continues to decrease exponentially. Take, for instance, her leading investigators to a dead end at universal studios when trying to create the narrative for her alibi. Maybe that's another time when it's 80% likely she just wanted attention or was subconsciously crying out for help rather than lying to cover her tracks for murder. Now, this is my most outrageous percentage yet in her favor, but I'm trying to demonstrate that we can be as charitable to her as possible, yet our hands are still tied in reasonably doubting her guilt. Give that one a 20% tolerance too, and our percentage for doubt actually doesn't change at our most charitable tolerance, as we've effectively multiplied what we previously had by 1.00. Should we assign it this value? Well, no, i think we objectively shouldn't. But we could, and it would help her case. The problem we run into is that we cannot leave any piece of evidence out here. We have to crunch the number in their totality. So when we incorporate the remaining dozen or so other pieces of evidence like her motive to party again and her behavior during the month between Caylee going missing and the authorities being notified, even our most generous boundary for doubt begins to approach less than 1%. It was at 8.31%, you'll recall. Now, factoring in a coin flip for each of those pieces of evidence with 20% tolerances, we get an upper bound of 4% likelihood that this is all a coincidence, and that reasonable doubt for Casey's guilt amounts to 1 in 25. Still not enough to convict for the death penalty, I grant and agree. So let's now factor in our remaining pieces of circumstantial evidence: the proximity of the body to her home, and how Caylee's body was triple-bagged to suggest homicide being roughly 30% more likely than an accidental death. Again, these figures are so generous to the defense that it's literally laughable and perhaps even reprehensible to entertain them. They're arguably unreasonable, honestly. But we'll still use them, because we need to have a conscious that isn't plagued by any possibility of injustice. That gives us a 35% chance on 2 pieces of evidence for coincidence and doubt, coupled with 20% tolerances for each. Now we take our 4% chance for reasonable doubt and multiply that by .55 and another .55 to arrive at a 1.23% chance for coincidence as our uppermost bound. That's about 1 in 81. Have we passed the threshold yet? Maybe reasonable doubt evaporates once we exceed a 1 in 200 chance that it could all be a coincidence. This is arbitrarily defined, which is why I began by recommending you define what you mean by "prove." If we use our neutral tolerances for each piece of evidence, this standard is well exceeded. It's .025%, or .00025, or a 1 in 4,000 chance that all of this is a coincidence based upon the evidence we've calculated probabilities for so far. But let's stick with our least aggressive tolerances. We still haven't even included the other half of the circumstantial evidence yet, man. HALF! This number would end up getting close enough to 0 even at the upper bound that trying to maintain reasonable doubt would only become possible for a schizophrenic or otherwise delusional vantage point, as I've already mentioned in several other comments above.
If we only had a few pieces of this evidence, then it might be true to say we can't be reasonably certain of her guilt. But we end up hitting epistemological bedrock with the shovel of a stupid question when, after considering all the evidence, we continue to ask 'what if we're wrong?' You have a better chance of being struck by lightning the same day you win the lottery than that you're wrong about this.
@Scott Demirjian I didnt read that.
0 likes@Allan Couceiro You must've been on that jury
3 likes@Allan Couceiro fair enough, it's an absolute wall of text.
1 likeWell, TLDR; I present the proof that she's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Guess if you don't believe me, you're gonna have to read it to make sure I'm full of crap.
Not to be rude, but you strike me as the type of person for whom taking the time to read something intellectually challenging might really do some good.
@Scott Demirjian lol
0 likes@Scott Demirjian open a window, mate. Go for a walk outside.
0 likes@anoN Nona nah man, and that's my point. No-one here was on that jury, so we only see what JCS shows us. That trial would have gone for weeks. Who knows what the jury saw/heard?? Maybe if we were in the jury, we would have thought "reasonable doubt", too.
0 likes@Allan Couceiro while I realize your responses to me were completely vacuous, you made a very good point to anoN Nona that, while they can definitely speak for themselves, I want to address also.
1 likeYou really do make a well-calculated, mature point there. It's entirely possible that the jury members were privy to information that, had i been subjected to in the same way, would have left me in a similar state of doubt. That would, of course, debase my initial remark that the jury was intellectually unfit to serve on a jury unless I am to concede that I would be too. And of course, with 12 separate members of society unanimously agreeing they didn't have enough evidence to convict, perhaps it's too easy for me to attribute this to stupidity, as several have already suggested above to me. I get that. Maybe they aren't stupid; maybe what influenced their decision-making differed substantially from my own, and I'd have also acquitted if in their shoes.
Hmm. Why does this feel like a familiar scenario? Wait, I think I've got it.
I grew up a fundamentalist Christian, and finally started learning about cultural differences, science, mythology, epistemology, and rhetorical devices and fallacies late into my teenage years. Into my 20's most of the central claims of the faith became untenable for me to continue holding given what I was coming to learn about the world I lived in. And hey, 2 billion people worldwide adhere to Christianity. Another 1.7 billion adhere to Islam, and still a billion more to Hinduism. These are all mutually exclusive worldviews, mind you - they can't all be true in the same sense at the same time. Now, how did I come to form an epistemology that would stay consistent in disproving Islam and Hinduism while also maintaining Christian ideology? Well, i couldn't do it with any intellectual honesty in tact. So your argument that I too would be compelled to vote as the jury did only if I had been on it is extremely analogous to saying I'd be a Muslim if only I grew up in the middle east, or a Hindu had I grown up in India. That's probably true, up until I reformed how I establish what is true and what isn't, and the gradients of possibility in between. But this is what I mean when I say they were unfit to serve on a jury. They didn't have a reformed epistemological methodology to correct for whatever indoctrination tactics had been employed to dissuade them from what we as the retrospective audience now find to be so utterly obvious.
I'm not saying they were collectively dumber than the general population. Quite the opposite; they were a true sampling of it. It isn't common to meet people with a solid enough epistemological foundation to refrain from subscribing to ideas that 90% of people around them insist are true. Now, of course, that observation in and of itself doesn't mean much. Maybe that person is delusional. Maybe they're denying gravity, or think birds are government drones used to spy on civilians. Or maybe they tend to get ahead of unpopular ideas and can extract the truth in ways that don't seem obvious at first, but prove more and more to be true as time allows us to examine the evidence further. I'd wager that's what I, and many others here, have done. We're the ones less likely to get conned. We're the ones not accepting BS as sufficient, nor being swayed to believe that being overly-skeptical is noble rather than the complete affront to basic human decency like in this particular case..
When it comes to being impervious to rhetorical tactics used to melt our minds, yes, this jury seemed not to have anyone psychologically strong enough to withstand the mental rigors of sorting through the evidence through a filter constrained by reason instead of incredulity. I think I've more than defended my point here, and stand by it.
@Scott Demirjian not reading all that.
0 likes@Allan Couceiro why not?
0 likesNot only that, he told them that there was no proof of how she died...so how can he say that she died in the swimming pool? There's no proof. Aside from that, a Medical Examiner would have easily been able to tell if the person 'died in a swimming pool'. It still doesn't answer why her mouth was taped up (why tape a mouth up if she was already dead), stuffed in the trunk for however long, wrapped in a blanket, and then tossed out somewhere to be found by someone else. Is that not 'abuse of a corpse"?
0 likesYou've misunderstood the fundamental part of the quotes. The first quote says she died by drowning. The second quote asks whether it was murder, neglect or accidental. So no, he didn't contradict any premise of the defense, nor were the jurors intellectually unfit. In fact that's reasoning for not being a juror so I doubt they'd make it through selection if they were.
0 likes@Jackie Bruhn how can you objectively conclude that's what his second quote meant? I think you're equivocating the cause of death with the context of death. You're saying you think he wanted to draw attention to the question of the context of her death given that there was tape over her respiratory orifices when she was found triple-bagged disposed in the woods, coupled with testimony of human decomposition emanating from Casey's car alongside a fabricated alibi and kidnapper rather than simply drawing the jury's attention toward the perceived uncertainty of what caused Caylee's death? That seems profoundly unreasonable. I mean, as clumsy as his contradiction was, that would have been orders of magnitude worse, would it not?
0 likesAnd by 'intellectually unfit' I mean unequipped with the ability to spot rhetorical fallacies and/or an adequate epistemological methodology, not necessarily an inability to solve basic problems or comprehend straightforward information, for instance. The bar they set for reasonable doubt trended irresponsibly close to outright delusion, in other words.
@Scott Demirjian A) I'm not equivocating anything. I'm saying the reasonable assumption and interpretation is that that's what he meant.
0 likes"She drowned, but can we prove it was murder?" - is quite literally the entire point.
B) Dude, your rambling is absolutely unnecessary, it took me two seconds to reply because that's how little of your message was substantial in the slightest.
@Jackie Bruhn provide a time stamp for what you have in quotes, please. I'm not hearing where Baez says it.
0 likesGo figure. I type a couple short paragraphs pertaining to your objection about the jury's qualifications and I'm rambling unnecessarily, but Baez spends half an hour gaslighting the jury in his closing remarks for them to simply return a 'not guilty' and I bet suddenly you'll think his rambling was necessary. Just because you didn't address what I said doesn't automatically make it irrelevant lol.
Very frustrating to watch.
0 likes@Jessie Mulcahy even more frustrating is the onslaught of otherwise intelligent people still remarking on this comment in defense of Casey despite now being 12 years removed from this with mountains of additional reasons to be nearly certain that Casey was complicit in the unlawful death of her child.
1 likeTbf he could have meant whether or not she was murdered rather than the specific cause of death
0 likes@The thiccest boi it was known beyond a reasonable doubt that she was murdered, though. Once confronted with the evidence of the tape over Caylee's nose and mouth and her body being triple-bagged and hidden in the woods, where is there room for any reasonable doubt of homicide?
0 likes@Xyz0321 Wer Yeah. Like there is a reasonable doubt the sun might come up in the east tomorrow. smh.
0 likesHe also said that immediately the prosecution were trying to paint casey as a bad person, but immediately the defense painted casey as a victim with no proof. If caylee drowned, then WHY was their duct tape and WHY did casey look up "fool proof suffocation". This is absolute bonkers
1 likeThe pool thing is complete bs that wouldn’t explain the duct tape!
1 like@Johnny Sins I bet all 12 of them were homo-sapiens, too. Kudos for shoehorning a political agenda into a conversation that couldn't possibly have anything less to do with politics.
0 likes@Johnny Sins so far I've had people on this comment thread tell me how my religion is bound to provoke me to do heinous things (I'm an atheist), quote people in the video as saying things they never said to try and make their point, argue about the burden of proof not being met but then refuse to read 4 paragraphs I write in response literally refuting that position, and now I've got some troll impersonating a porn star liking his own comment that alleges me to be a Democrat (I'm not) as if that could even conceivably further this conversation at all. To anchor every facet of life to partisanship is to not know how to sufficiently think critically in a way that solves problems. So who caught who here?
0 likes@Scott Demirjian None of that is reasonable doubt. Scotty would have been selected for the jury because your logic to acquit her makes 0 sense.
1 like@Patrick Lincoln What? so he lied at 56:35, realized that nobody would believe his lie, so creates a completely new lie with no connection or consistency with the first lie. And that's somehow not a contradiction?
1 like@Razakin We do hate the game. We're all saying that the justice system sucks. We also hate the defense attorney for abusing a shitty justice system instead of having integrity and doing the right thing. I don't care if defending is his job, I can hate him for lack of integrity.
1 like@ELFanatic i love you ❤
0 likesThis fcking thread man! God, I love the internet! Chefs kiss to you all!
0 likeshe wasn’t contradicting his own defense he was admitting his defense couldn’t be proven same as the prosecution - there is no way to ever truly know how she died
0 likes@Naz Ak depending on what you mean, I might be inclined to agree with you
0 likes@Scott Demirjian well most are not physically unfit, that's just us in the west. Must are unfit to judge their peees sensibly on a jury
0 likesHave you been to Florida? Good luck finding anyone fit to be in a jury.
0 likesA true narcissist.
4 likesIf you were dumb enough to be on the jury and think she wasn't guilty despite ALL the evidence... you have issues lol
0 likesShe claims right there that she talked to her daughter a minute or few minutes right then on 911 call. That little girl never had a nanny ever in her life their all lying about that nannies are expensive if you go through a reputable service
0 likesThe most interesting thing about this case is Caseys Lawyer. That was pure magic, what a pro! Hes def going straight to hell tho. Do not pass go do not collect $200 dollars
1 likeShe’s a pathological liar. Who can anyone believe anything she says?
0 likesShe’s the reason you should get rid of double jeopardy
1 likeWhy was the father of the murdered kid never mentioned in media coverage? Not as a suspect, it’s obvious who the killer was, but just as an interested party?
1 likeHow did she become such a monster when her parents seem so nice?
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Do some more research about her parents and you'll see the mom isn't nice at all. She's controlling, argumentative, angry, narcissistic, the list goes on.
0 likeswhat did it is the defense attorney saying "remember, you can only convict her guilty if youre absolutely sure". a lot of jurors thought she was guilty, but they knew they didnt know beyond a reasonable doubt, and that's all it took. all the evidence points to her being guilty. all of it. homegirl literally google searched how to suffocate her kid... like... i just dont see any reasonable conclusion to make other than casey did it
0 likesJust finished a research essay about this case, so sad.
0 likesshe said Jeffrey had a nice house and then when the interrogator spoke and said talk about when you got off work and she said she went up to the apartment to get catylee and then she said her female co worker moved three months before to new york but said she stopped working there a few weeks before
0 likesAny good mother Would of called them cops if someone or a babysitter took their child. I’d be knocking doors down looking for my son. Ain’t no way I’m gonna go out partying and whatever else after someone took my son. I look at it that way as most moms would and it’s just ridiculous. I can’t believe she got away with this.
0 likesI miss JCS. Hope y’all are well.
1 likeI wonder if that lawyer is proud of what he did. :\
0 likesThis is heart breaking 😭
0 likesThe defense lawyer might have had a strong narrative ability, but his tastes on suit ties were awful
0 likes"Fake it til you make it" has a whole other meaning for Casey
0 likesCompletely self-centered narcissist. I feel sorry for her daughter and her parents...but the later honestly helped lead her on this path by not holding her accountable when she skipped school and bailed her out of every kind of debt or guilt. I'm pretty sure they are aware of that too. Must be some weight to carry.
0 likesCasey killed her daughter so she could ditch her parental responsibility and live a single, party life.
1 likeThe way that EVERYONE is concerned and crying, and this cold blooded woman is like 😐👍
0 likesyou can't make an un-unravelable lie, you need to be a theoretical physicist for that
0 likesDefence attorney is an evil genius.
0 likesIt's so obvious that she's guilty. Just goes to show trial by jury doesn't work.
0 likesHow did she get away with this ? Insane
0 likes"The car smelled like there was a dead body" that was the red flag out the start.
0 likes57:33 BOOOOOOM!! This is what in Spain we call "as my last day in the convent, I prefer to shit inside it in that moment". True or not, was definitely a Hail Mary in the last second of the game. José Báez was an exceptional devil's lawyer, tbh.
1 likeMan some lawyers are beyond the devil
0 likesthis is so weird just how much casey lied
0 likesSo who did it then? Did I miss that part? Are they still looking? Wow I just can't believe how this ended. How come??????
0 likesWhat an absolutely disgusting human being. How do you defend someone like that.
0 likesI notice that when the three detectives were interrogating her in the office, they didn't sound like cops. They didn't sound measured and controlled. They weren't using any detective tricks. At that point, they were just three fathers getting frustrated with a mother who didn't seem to give a damn about her daughter.
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They were missing persons detective, not homicide detectives. If it were homicide detectives on that interview it would have gone a lot different. Missing persons job is only to find people not try to interrogate for murder
230 likes@JABSLOT 2020 that explains it then
32 likesYes i also caught up on that if they were homicide detectives, it would have been a lot different.
1 likeFeel bad for those detectives. I can’t imagine how upsetting of a situation they were put it dealing with her. She played them and they couldn’t do a thing about it. She was in control the whole time. It should’ve been the other way around.
6 likeswoman are favored in court its the sad reality
4 likestotally agree with you.
3 likesbut I also understand that they are detectives of missing persons, not homicides. As Jacob 2020 said.
I mean, if you were led on a wild goose chase, with a bunch of lies and having to drive to different address, i would be pissed too
2 likesYeah. She was in control. They weren't. I mean, she wasn't fooling anyone, but she was calmed and they were losing it.
0 likesThere is also a sense of emergency as the child might still be alive
0 likesWhat you just described is a detective trick
0 likes30:00 is when the ma kinda came to relization that she probably killedher daughter how she was speaking about her daughter like she is in the past. Smh!!!
0 likesThis content is crazy good.
0 likesWhen the law fails 😪
0 likesThe verdict was controversial. On the other hand, I don't think I'm smarter than all these police officers, detectives or the judge.
0 likesProsecution ought to be ashamed of themselves wtf
0 likesAs far as I'm concerned she killed her daughter
0 likesI can't believe she's free
I'm mean just look at those internet searches
Her parents raised and enabled a pathological liar. It’s always seemed incredible that her parents believed her story for so long. They coddle her, calling her honey, sweetheart, darling. I think they’ve always been afraid of her. She ruled the roost.
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If I had showed up one day without my son- my parents may have beaten me half to death if I didn't IMMEDIATELY have an explanation of where he was. There's no damn way they would have been supporting my ass or calling me "sweetheart" while I'm sitting in jail.
17 likesThat's exactly what I picked up on, it's a shame because they're good people, but they also enabled and somewhat created a monster.
15 likes@Grande Capo I pity the father, having to see his daughter make lies about him and throw him under the bus just so she wouldn't have to deal with the repercussions of her crime.
5 likesWhy didn't the grandparents just adopt Caylee?
0 likes@theblasblas Well, we don't know if that was a lie. I mean, it is very likely. But she must have earned this level of psychopathy somehow
0 likesThere should be a test that estimates the stupidity and naïveté of every jury..
0 likesWell this one would’ve fail with honours
This woman being free is only making her believe that she's unbeatable.
0 likesI'm nauseous by only seeing her damn face.
*died in the pool so naturally had to wrap her in duct tape, a blanket, a laundry bag, drop her in a swamp, google suffocation on the day of, waited a month to say anything and pathologically lied throughout the investigation
0 likesShe basically did what chris Watts did killed her children for a new life
1 likeJust like O.J. (also media circus) she got away with it.
1 likeTotal miscarriage of justice!!..Casey will answer for her horrific deeds one day, sadly not by our failed justice system.
0 likesCasey has that same psychotic twinkle in her eye that my ex had
0 likesHer cries are laughs at the end when she hears her Verdict. She just trying to pretend.
0 likesHow??? I Cannot believe this..She was GUILTY!!!! I'll never get the time back watching this. I'm left really Upset.
0 likesgod, if I was Casey and my child got kidnapped, assuming she didn't plan this shit because I'm only seven minutes in, I'd be freaking the fock out.
0 likesthat's my focking kid!
Does America ever imprison cold blooded murders 🤷🏻♀️
0 likesGod she was such a great liar.
0 likesWhat an amazing system at work... Just so well made... It just Works... ya'know?
0 likesOK. This is an old case, but why is the father of Caylee never mentioned? Who is he? Or was she a test tube baby?
0 likesDid the jury just forget her Internet search and her diary entry and her partying.
0 likesY’all do know that people were killed by authorities on the suspicion of being guilty of things, not actual evidence, but we made the courts humane in todays world. You people always yap about humane this and humane that, centuries ago, she would have been put to death on the gallows on these facts, because she’s definitely guilty even without clear-cut evidence she actually did it. It’s we know everything but can’t actually prove it. So thanks to all you weak hearted people who put a stop to the old ways 👍👍
0 likesNo justice for the baby.
From her childhood till adulthood she lied and did not get punished. In many developed countries giving punishment to children is seen as bad parenting. But sometimes these are required for cases like this. Skipping school for whole one-half year without getting punished - is simply unimaginable. Also getting pregnant and childbirth at young age is also a problem. This woman does not even know how to organize her own life. How can she bring up a child? Parenting is a huge burden on her. Teenage pregnancy, giving birth before marriage - all cause to this sort of problem. Sometimes, I feel, a little conservative society is necessary to avoid some problems lie this one..
1 likeThe infamous words of Roderick Heffley "Listen to me. No matter what they ask you, no matter how hard they push, deny, deny, deny; even if they figure it out, never ever admit to anything".
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holy shit, this child murder youtube video is just like diary of a wimpy kid!
0 likesHer lawyers, after successfully causing a miscarriage of justice, shamed all the decent people who thought Casey was guilty, even though it was still totally obvious that she was.
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By virtue, her lawyers are addressing mostly everyone in these comments
6 likesUsing a tactic from devil's advocate, is not liking this man reason enough to convict him.
9 likesThe lawyer is just doing his job. It's his job as a defender and he was fantastic. But it's so fucking appalling that the woman got off free and did not do her time for the murder. It was the prosecutor's fault for not giving a better presentation.
40 likesi know right, afterward they should just go "lol jk she DID do it"
8 likesThey were just doing their job, I hate the outcome, but it is the district attorney who FAILED miserably.
10 likes@Frank Grimes shaming her family is not the job of a lawyer. Who tricked you people into thinking this shit?
8 likesShe was guilty There s no doubt about that, she knew she was dead that's why she hid the fact that she was supposedly missing, what mother in her right mind wouldn't run for help to the police to help find her daughter, she told lie after lie and hindered the police from finding her because she didn't want her found dead or alive and now she's free to live her life without the child she she so callously disregarded and murdered, she's evil
9 likesHer lawyer was getting his beak wet and in it for the fun like any guy was doing what any straight single guy would do if he had a law degree and a 20 year old attractive female was in need of some help
3 likesMiscarriage of justice? 😯
0 likesOnly in Florida
1 like@Sizzle Iguana click where?
0 likesHer lawyer accused George of molesting Casey in opening statements and then never mentioned it again...such a sick trick to get some sort of sympathy from the jury and to discredit a grieving grandfather
6 likes@GRIM No it was the jury's fault for not using sense. If you had to bet your life that she was innocent or guilty, which way would you vote?
3 likes@genobambino You wouldn't?
0 likesi honestly think they knew she was guilty really ...that Biase(sp) was just a nasty s.o.b. ...i read some not so good things about him .. some things he did before he became her lawyer were really shady ......
1 likeKasper Vestergaard No. I understand the duty to try your hardest to defend her in court, but after I won I wouldn’t run to the nearest microphone and admonish everyone who thought she was guilty — especially if I knew she was guilty too, as they doubtless did. Just feel relieved that you won in the face of mountains of evidence and a clearly narcissistic client and leave it at that.
1 like@genobambino Don't think you understood me correctly.
0 likes@RearAdmiralTootToot A jury should never use "sense" or quess what happened.
0 likesIts the job of the state and the district attorny to PROOF you did something wrong without reasonable doubt! They are the ones who failed! They didnt proof it 100% So the only verdict can be not quilty.
@genobambino "everyone who !thought! she was guilty" And that is it! Thought has nothing to do with it! You need hard evidence someone did the crimes you accuse them of. And the state didnt privde enough hard evidence that she did! I also think she did it! But you cant and should not sentence someone to death without 100% proof!
0 likesI bet my left kidney that if they tried for life in Prison she would be in Jail already..
You don’t actually have to have hard proof or even more proof than they had. You just need to convince the jury. A lot of cases are convicted in circumstantial evidence and the culprit getting caught in lies. Your point about the death penalty may be a good one though.
0 likes@genobambino You never answered my question.
0 likesKasper Vestergaard You need yo be more specific. I wouldn’t what? I wouldn’t rub it in after I stole a not-guilty verdict? No I wouldn’t. I’d slink off and not take questions. But maybe that’s not what you’re asking...
0 likes@genobambino I'm playing with you geno. You said she is unattractive. Sure you wouldn't slip it into her? If the answer is no, I don't believe you.
0 likesgenobambino GOOD ANALOGY!!
0 likesI totally get the point that lying is a coping mechanism but if I were to hide my child after they drowned in a pool I wouldnt duct tape their mouth and nose and I dont see any reason to either.
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Exactly, and she looked up suffocation a day before it happened and journaled now she was the happiest she ever been, the people who were on the jury should live the rest of there lives knowing they failed this little girl.
0 likesBro she is almost Light Yagami with those frickin lies damn
1 likesaying they were the best grandparents she had and correcting to has ... damn
0 likesOMG so I'm pretty sure my family bought a picture from her at the hulk ride. I knew I remember her face because sorry but I thought she was hot. WOW
0 likesI'm fucking disgusted by the jury.
2 likes“Netflix, Chipotle expansions plans light up StockTwits” reading during verdict read 😂😂
0 likesRarely am I so angry. Her attitude with people trying to HELP HER just shows how little she cares for others. Repulsive.
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they were NOT trying to help her. they tried to get information out of her that would help convict her. she knew that.
7 likesCesare I think OP means they were originally trying to help her find her daughter, and she wasn’t really cooperating
4 likes@Vicious Vegan Indeed, wouldn't want any so-called help from "Tara from Michigan, Mark's psycho ex-wife"
3 likes@Vicious Vegan Since PoPo goes after young white women right away everyone knows that, her lying every time she opened her mouth and driving them onto wild goose chases didn't persuaded them that she is inoscent...
0 likes@Le Quack no, but she picked the perfect man for the job, that badass lawyer :D
0 likesliller many thanks that was my original meaning
0 likes@Kat 🇺🇦 you have to understand, in that situation, every person helping you to find out the truth IS your enemy. they dont really care about her. they only care about that little girl. the very thing that was holding her back and she got rid of it.
0 likesSo there are a bunch of just normal people who decide in the end? and who's pullin off the best show wins? Wow, thats odd. But what for do you have a judge?
0 likes3:10 She spoke to her 3 yo daughter through a phone?
2 likesIt’s so annoying she tries to act smart by just saying bs or lying the whole time
0 likesWaaaaaaaaaaaaait a minute, how dafuq is the opening statement of the defence: "Caylee died in the family swimming pool" And then the closing argument is "It cannot be proven without any reasonable doubt"...wtf is this?!
0 likesThe eyes never lie... She's crazy.
0 likes"OH SHIT I NEED TO COME UP WITH A NAME FOR THE IMAGINARY MEXICAN PERSON WHO KIDNAPPED MY DAUGHTER UHHHHHHHHH"
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I had a spanish teacher called "Maria Lopez-Lopez" - it sounds like a made up name.^^
0 likesWhat a poor excuse for a human, no words!
1 likeJury were total useless, And failed to give justice to that poor child.
0 likesSo her tactics and lies worked. Not just with her parents. Unbeliavable.
0 likesthat attorney is crazy good damn ....
0 likesthey say only 2% of the world's population have the lowest IQ. how the hell did they all end up in the same jury?
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😂😂
0 likesWhat did Casey Marie say was the reason she looked up suffocation on the internet?
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Doesn't matter, it's circumstantial at best
0 likesThis really pisses me off that she got off with it
0 likeshow tf did she not get life in prison? what a joke. she clearrly killed caylee.
0 likesI’m italian pizza pasta and this ruined my day, thank you american justice sistem (i mean the italian is even not better i guess)
0 likesa woman who no longer wants to take care of her child does not have the right to have him adopted or place him in an orphanage ?
0 likesWhile on the stand she had the best RBF!
0 likessome stuff doesnt make sense tho… if she drowned in a pool, why did she duct tape the mouth and nose? and how could you just dump your kid then go partying? its not emotional, i feel like its evidence acting like that and doing those things… but whatevs im not a professional lol
0 likesMiscarriage of justice... Jury can they really face themselves
1 likeWhen some people say good morning, it's better to look out of it window and check if the sun goes up or down.
0 likesMade the beat and murdered it , Casey Anthony
0 likesi don’t understand how these defense attorneys & jurors can sleep after these years of knowing they set a child murderer free. it just puts me at a loss for words.
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Its despicable that she got away with it, the fact she never reported it until a month later should of been a life sentence. What was the grandmother thinking. Clearly no one cared about the poor girl or something wouldve been done sooner
60 likesI agree, but I don't believe it's the jurors' fault. The defense team did a great job and the jurors legally made the right choice based on the evidence they had in front of them. What seriously amazes me the most is how those defense attorneys can look at themselves in the mirror. Even Casey I can understand, she's a sociopath so she doesn't know any better. But they choose to devote their lives to play the system and make a mockery of justice for their own personal gain. And to top it all off, they have the audacity to stand up on their soapbox at the end and gloat about it in front of everyone. That's a truly disgusting, lowlife scumbag act. Anyone with a modicum of dignity would just keep quiet and walk away. Anyhow I hope they're proud of themselves and their life's contribution to this world. May God have mercy on their souls.
110 likesWhere is John Doe (Se7en) when you need him?
4 likes@Sharkskin Boy Yeah I mean they are just doing their job, and they probably use the money they got to help them sleep at night, but I agree with you on the gloating at the end, it was so cringeworthy, I didn't really pay attention to what the jury looked like, but I am guessing mostly men, and she was kinda hot/petite, so they probably went full white knight to the rescue on her. If it was a bald dude he woulda been locked up.
23 likesBy knowing they served the justice system correctly. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
6 likes@Zinc Bernard It's a pretend happy family. They keep up appearances. It explains most of this.
5 likes@Sharkskin Boy I judge funeral homes more than defense lawyers providing perpetrators with their right for an attorney.
1 like@Dea Dean there was plenty of evidence against her to put her away for good, from the moment she lied about knowing jeff, she should’ve been tried & found guilty. these people failed the justice system, innocent caylee & every other victim who’s attackers have been set free.
17 likes@Susan Davis lying doesn't equate to a confession. It's just the law.
5 likesI read some of juror's thoughts on this case. They somehow regret of their decisions and thinking it will stick with them forever. They knew they could have pushed it a bit further. Since it was obviously a murder, then who is the murderer? No camera records? no local witnesses of the car? What was the whole point of the trial? Are we saving Casey out of jail or finding who murdered Caylee?
10 likes@Dea Dean If a citizen helps a criminal to get away with a crime by lying to and misleading police that in itself is a crime. Yet when a defense laywer manufactures a story to help their client get away with a crime that's OK. Bear in mind it's the lawyers, not the perpetrators, who come up with these detailed, elaborate stories for the judge. I agree that everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but I don't believe making up BS stories for the sake of averting punishment is what a fair defense is about. But of course everyone is happy with that arrangement because that's what keeps the system going around. It's not about truthfulness, it's about who can outsmart who. One big game.
23 likes@Sharkskin Boy well written 👍
1 likeMoney ..
0 likesGeorge (Casey father commited suicide after this)
1 like@Manolya ATALAY send the links here please ... I'm googling every single details about her
0 likesJust because if a defense attorney doesn’t do his/her best work to get their defendants free the whole trial can be nullified and eventually the defendant can walk free as well and this attorney would be disbarred. So a defense attorney must do his/her best and all the decision is made by juros, based on what was presented to them only, and not in what the media e other people’s points of view, although these may be more correct. It’s part of trials rules and specified by laws. If anyone wants to change that he/she has to talk to their law makers.
3 likesThe problem is.. you need to ave lawyers liek this because you need to make sure you put the least amount of innocent people in jail - but obviously we know its not fool proof.
5 likesThe belief is.. to let 10 guilty men go than let 1 innocent man suffer...
She had a good lawyer.. the state didn't do a good enough job.. when everything was in their hands.. the lawyer used the fact they relied on character assignation vs concrete evidence as their strategy.
@Sharkskin Boy If I recall correctly, there WERE rumors that Baez and Anthony were caught in compromising positions, but I don't think they were ever proven to be true or not. But personally I don't even doubt it at this point.
2 likesRespectfully, there needs to be proof, not likelihood. It’s better to allow a few criminals to go free than to find a few innocent people guilty. This is the worst part of the best legal system in the world.
3 likes@BuddhaSTL I think that’s the most frustrating part of all of this; knowing that this is pretty much as good as it gets.
0 likesA lot of the evidence described in this video was not shared with the jury. They didn't hear about the foolproof suffocation search, for instance. They were told a different story, one I'd have trouble believing myself. I think the blame is on the prosecution, not the jury.
1 like@Sharkskin Boy okay think about this the defence didn't know for sure wether she is the murder or not and it is not the defendant job to make judgment , defendant just have to do his/her best and defend . Lets say the person is not guilty but there are some things that say he is and the defendant just make judgment on his own and didn't even try to defend him properly he will make a grave mistake. So the defendant never make judgment (should never) and defend with whatever they got
0 likesI dunno if the burden's really on the lawyers. They are to assume whoever they defend is innocent, as everyone has a right to a legal defense.
0 likesThough I'm sure in cases like this they hope that their client loses anyway. Sadly, they didn't.
@Mosisusasuyeah and her lawyer is pretty good too lol
0 likes@Sharkskin Boy I think you're being too harsh. Criminal defence attorneys aren't there to game the system, they are an important part of it. Their job is to treat every case as if their client is innocent and offer them the best defence they can. While this does sadly mean that some sociopaths walk away, it also means that some people who look super guilty but are actually innocent get to avoid going to prison for something they didn't do.
4 likesAnother thing to note is the difference between the public and private image of these attorneys. Yes they are going to make statements at the end congratulating themselves and their teams, because that's also part of representing your client in their rightful legal defence. But I'll bet you in many cases like that they secretly hate that they won the case and the alleged perp walks free.
Just because they publicly celebrate, doesn't mean they don't privately regret the way that things turned out.
It is her child, she is to decide, to kill or not. Not you
1 like@Артем Евженков yeah that is kinna true , but what does that have to do with this 🤣🤣 we are talking about the defendant lawyer
0 likes@Mosisusasu Well looking at this specific case, I don't believe for a minute that Casey's father was abusing her, and that therefore she was just doing what she had learned to do in the past, keeping everything quiet. Really? So when her father abused her each time, did she also learn to go to hot body contests a few days later, like she did after her daughter died? That was clearly a BS story concocted by the lawyer and Casey and it's just disgusting what they did to her father to try to avoid responsibility. That's not defense, that's blatant lying and it's criminal. Listen to the lawyer's voice when he told the court that, I cringed when I heard it, he almost had an apologetic tone in his voice like he didn't believe it anymore than he knew anyone else would. Anyhow, it is what it is. Thanks for your opinion anyway, I appreciate it.
0 likes@Sharkskin Boy there was absolutely zero evidence in her defense all that they had were words on the other hand they had already found several pieces of clear evidence that she killed her they found a poem she wrote that was psychotic she was trying to make herself feel better by writing a poem talking about how her decision was justified then they found the child’s lifeless corpse in a swamp with tape around her face but they still believed that it was a accident in a pool and if that doesn’t show you how idiot and horrible they handle this then she also completely lied the entire time while talking with the detectives they even called her out on it THEN she literally preceded to entirely change her story when she noticed that they weren’t buying it
2 likes@Dea Dean but it does show ones true colors and can easily be used against them
0 likes@Sharkskin Boy Sociopaths do know better, luckily. Many are functional members of society, and not murderers. Casey is her own monster.
1 like@Lucha Lerae That's not very nice! 😪😪😪
0 likes@nick n
0 likesIt was something like 10 women/7 men including alternates.
They said they couldn’t give her the death penalty which is infuriating because they were asked if they would be able to do that as part of their qualifying questions. I don’t have a better alternative but juries frighten me.
@althea 72 I have a feeling juries are picked if they seem not too bright...
2 likes🤑🤑🤑
0 likes@Артем Евженков literally what’s wrong with you?🤨
0 likes@Electric Soup i have a feeling you’re entirely right
0 likesBeing attractive opens doors.
0 likesThat's why people say there's a special place in hell for defense attorneys.
0 likesUnfortunately the U.S. justice system is broken in so many ways.
0 likesOnly by having excellent defence lawyers such as this will police and prosecutors also be excellent, and therefore we can all trust in the criminal justice system to catch baddies and lock them up, and to reduce/ eliminate miscarriages of justice.
0 likesThe prosecution in this case were substandard and as such, a likely murderer walked free.
Everyone must be afforded a fair trial in court. This is a foundation of our society.
We may all be angry and disappointed that the prosecution and police investigation in this case were inadequate but that’s where the focus should be - a learning review as to why this case failed is the right thing to do to ensure that murderers don’t walk free in the future.
In the uk we got rid of Doyle jeopardy which means - if you did it, eventually you’ll get convicted once the forensic evidence catches up!
The fact that she was not even charged with ANYTHING for child neglect or abuse even. At the VERY LEAST neglect. Like what the hell.
0 likes@Sharkskin Boy Everybody is entitled to an adequate and robust defence. You could just as easily say how can prosecutors sleep at night with what they do. They are both essential parts of an adversarial justice system. And no justice system is perfect.
0 likes@DPR Contracting I understand what you're saying, but prosecution is based on providing as much evidence as possible that points to the truth about what happened. They are not at liberty to make up stories, only talk to the evidence. The defense on the other hand, seems to be able to create whatever narrative they choose, with no evidence, to subvert the truth. A fair trial is not about who can win this game, it's about truth on both sides.
0 likesSomething not discussed is that she grew up with her law enforcement detective father. She is comfortable with that personality type and understands how to manipulate and get around and maneuver authority.
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Maybe, but she didn't fool anyone in this case. Her family and detectives knew. Her lawyer did an amazing job at creating doubt. According to other comments the jury was all female. I'm sure they would have convicted her if she was a man. She got lucky and got off, but not because of her lying ability at all. All her lies were exposed.
38 likesnardinit they were not all females and most of them have publicly stated they thought she was guilty but it was pressed so much before hand that if their was any sliver of room for doubt they could not convict that they felt they had to say not guilty because the prosecution could not prove without any doubt.
28 likes@nardinit I agree with you that they weren't taken in by her lies. I meant more that she showed no fear, no remorse, no hesitation. When she was backed into a corner she plowed right on without hardly batting an eye. She was in no way intimidated by authority figures. And I believe that is because she grew up running circles around her cop father.... I mean besides her obvious sociopath lack of conscience
8 likes@Holly Brooke By that standard no criminal would be jail right? You can't know beyond a shadow of a doubt somebody did something unless you were there and saw them do it yourself. I think that jury did society a great disservice and that murdered child an injustice
11 likesWhen my brother was in highschool and the few years after too he hung out with the main cop in our town and they got into so much crap together and Tony always said to my bro “dude my dads a cop I have the whole playbook.”
1 likeWhen my bro got pulled over for an illegal turn with the son in the passenger seat the dad just told him to get lost not thinking that he walked away from the traffic stop with all of the evidence
Holly Brooke Just one minor thing, it’s never legally been “beyond any doubt”. It just has to be reasonable.
4 likesnardinit That’s complete bullshit. It was 9 women and 8 men.
1 like@Dat Boi Exactly. Beyond reasonable doubt is not the same as "Beyond any far-flung theoretical possibility" or literally nobody could eve be convicted of anything. You could just argue that you can't prove they weren't abducted by aliens who altered Casey's brain and killed the little girl. You could argue that a person who claims they saw a murder first-hand might just be imagining that particular thing. Is that reasonable? Of course not! It would seem so far beyond reasonable doubt that this woman is so very obviously guilty, I just cannot believe the verdict. It's really quite distressing, to be honest. What's that saying, that stupidity and evil are the same if you judge by the results.
2 likesGeorge was a deputy sheriff in Ohio with a job performance like Barney Fife.He was fired When the media contacted the sheriff department in Ohio they chose to not speak for or against George.It was pretty bad.So that bar was already set very low
0 likesThis is a very good point.
0 likesShe seems like a sweet girl.
0 likesDetective: do you know what race the nanny is??
0 likesCasey: BLACK Puerto Rican mixed
Jesus Christ we always suspects white people needs to stop 🛑 🤞🏼
"Shes been able to lie her way out of everything her whole life and it always worked with her parents but its not going to work with police detectives" Plot twist... She lied her way through the entire investigation and trial and was found not guilty, meaning it actually all worked and to this day she still has never had to take responsibility for her actions.
1064 likesShe won’t call the cops for her daughter but she will about a drink thrown in her face.
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Lol I just came from that video on tiktok 😂
28 likesmh-hmmm
8 likesI mean, u can have another daughter BUT NOBODY SHOULD THROW DRINKS AT MY FACE AND I MEAN NO. ONE. ( /s ) Lol she has fucked up priorities.
29 likesdaaaaaaaaaaaaaang
0 likes@XIANXUA what’s it about
0 likesI just looked this up she really called police within the hour for her shirt but 31 days for her daughter
17 likes@Kate W I do not understand how this verdict found her not guilty
23 likesHave a heart. Shes' STILL damp.
8 likes@Berkeley Pickell LOL
2 likesbro u got me so weak... i'm so fucked up i read that twice
1 likeJust came here from that video also
0 likesOk but is the father part true bc if it is that’s disturbing
0 likesThat lady’s guilty
0 likesCasey Anthony’s case is so bizarre, the pathological lying about everything is just insane.
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It’s pathological alright
4 likesI get it that her family is easily fooled by her and that she manipulates them, that's on them. But the whole justice system? That pisses me off!
12 likesI used to work with a pathological liar it is a very bizarre experience to deal with one. There lies go beyond what a normal person might lie about they stretch even the most basic information. The guy used to work with tried to blame me for his shenanigans he took a water hose and sprayed it all over the back of the store. The boss man chewed me out and later I suppose he found out that he was a pathological liar and he got fired the boss man was nice to me after that. At any rate if you ever meet one and have to deal with one, once you find out they are a pathological liar it makes dealing with them easier because essentially every word that comes out of their mouth is b*******.
13 likesPathological liars, sociopaths, and narcissists are surprisingly common. This case was terrible. However, I'm worried about the others that are walking free still hurting people. Casey got caught because she slipped up.
6 likescodemiesterbeats yeah, it’s indeed bizarre. They don’t seem to have a ‘motive ‘? for the lies either. Idk if I’m articulating this very well, but usually people lie for some reason. I.e.;to gain something, to get out of something(trouble, legal issues, work issues, relationships etc.), to avoid hurting your feelings sometimes(does this dress make me look fat?? “NOOO!!”this lil white lie, if necessary). But pathological liars, will lie just to.... lie. No rhyme or reason why. They just lie outta habit. Pathology. They’re driven to do it. It becomes so awkward, when you know & THEY know that you know but they still do it!!! Ugh.... it’s so, fukdup.
3 likesTheLegend27 I don’t think Alekka is necessarily blaming the family lol
0 likesIt just makes sense;
Nobody would suspect their own daughter. And we can’t really blame them for wanting to believe her innocence. They’re family after all.
The justice system, on the other hand, has no personal ties to her and are professionals, so you’d expect them to figure it out. It’s their job.
If anything we’re bashing them not her relatives
TheLegend27 saying that they were easily fooled is a bit harsh tho lmao
0 likes@Nunuv Yabuiznez It's not surprising at all that parents would want to believe their kids are innocent. I don't think anyone is surprised by that. What is surprising is that for whatever the fuck reason, everyone else in that courtroom(besides the prosecution) seems to believe casey is innocent just as much as her parents do. And it seems all we can do about it now is complain about it in hindsight. My skin crawls whenever I hear her speak, I can barely even look at her.
1 like@Nunuv Yabuiznez It is always assumed casey's family had no ties to the judicial system, yet casey's dad was a former policeman. I say that definitely presents a possibility for there being ties with police and potentially other powerful, influential figures of the law. Politics can play a huge part in life, such as getting a job and getting into the right school....or getting away with things you shouldn't get away with.
1 likeJuliette Lewis is an actress... highly underrated.
0 likesShe is writing a book about her life after Caylee's death, which I beg people not to buy... She also tried to make a movie. Which Covid derailed. Thank God. She has lately been discussing having children again. Uhg.
2463 likesThat jury failed Caylee. Horribly failed her. In every sense of the word. Disgusting.
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I pray that she never has another child again. And if she does...I'm scared for those poor innocent kids
171 likesThanks for the tip. Will be highly interesting book to read. She is truly unique human being (unlike your average mindless citizens), in most fascinating way.
10 likes@vidura FBI we got em
181 likesIt's not the jury's fault - the defense had a better game plan. He had a better connection than the prosecution. The big problem I think was prosecution using a woman (no, this isn't misogynistic, put away the torches & pitchforks!) they thought "a woman's/mom's perspective" would add more gravity to their case, just by having a lady lawyer do the talking. But did you listen to her opening statements? Dull, flat, cold voice plus their arrogance and gullibility - prosecution failed miserably. Idiots.
48 likes@vidura You're insane.
84 likes@ScoCon86 that's a weird way to phrase it all if you claim you're not misogynistic. You could've just said that all of the defense lawyers were dull, flat, uncharismatic, which they were. What does it have to do with the gender of the lawyer who does the opening statement? A bringing a woman for the opening statement wasn't the problem, the problem was their entire method of approach. All the lawyers failed.
40 likes@Mahdia AhseenThe lawyers did fail, yes, but they're first mistake in the courtroom was in going with a not-so-subtle misogynistic angle from the beginning. Attempting to use a woman to explain how moms are supposed to treat their kids.
13 likesBut of course someone read my opinion the wrong way - it's expected on opinion-based, "you-be-the-judge" channels like this.
Agreed
1 like@ScoCon86 The jury was there for one reason, to decide whether or not the defendant is guilty. This person was guilty, but the jurors somehow failed to see that, so they absolutely did fail as a jury.
44 likes@ScoCon86 Are you really telling me jurors don't give their verdict on legal cases? Is this really the hill you want to die on? Tell me then why judges say, "the jury finds you guilty". Why is it that when you search something like, "jurors role in the legal system", you receive the same answer, "The jury decides whether a defendant is "guilty" or "not guilty" in criminal cases, and "liable" or "not liable" in civil cases."? Your entire response is nonsensical.
16 likes@ScoCon86 Why don't you explain to me exactly why you think I'm "special needs"? You said it isn't the jury's fault she wasn't convicted, when they are literally the ones who give the verdict on the matter. I'm aware of how juries work, and what due process is. It doesn't mean the jury didn't "fail Caylee", when they failed to convict Casey, especially when it was obvious she did it. She had hear head "buried and slumped" when hearing the recording of her mother calling the cops after finding her 31 days after Caylee went missing, smoking weed and doing drugs with a friend. When asked by her mother where Casey was, she said her babysitter, a person never verified to exist, took her daughter 31 days prior, and she was using her own methods to track down Caylee. Instead of calling the cops and giving herself the best shot at finding her kid, like a normal person would do, she was found doing drugs with a friend, without a single care in the world, not doing anything but what she wanted at the time. The defense tried to say Caylee drowned in the family pool and Casey's father helped her dispose of the body, which her father denied. They even said her father abused her as a child. They couldn't even use that in court because there wasn't any evidence. She lied so many times during the trial, no normal person could possibly believe she isn't guilty. They failed to see this, and, subsequently, failed Caylee. This isn't a debate, ScoCon.
10 likes@Lightspace You are the one who isn't understanding of the situation. You can refer to my most recent response to ScoCon. Also, I don't think you even saw the trial. If you did, You wouldn't say anything about "poor proof and evidence to go on".
2 likesShe shouldve been given life in jail.
9 likesalso Casey is starting an investigative firm with the defense lawyer who worked on her case. they are also rumoured to be dating
3 likes@ScoCon86 Yes, I stated these things... I was forced to do so multiple times because you still don't seem to understand what I'm trying to convey, despite me being clear and concise. I will not reply to your nonsensical, unfounded ad hominem attacks in the following paragraphs. In stead, I'll attempt to clarify one more time. Since you like to quote verbatim, I'll do so as well.
4 likesIn response to the original commenter stating, "the jury failed Caylee", you said, "it's not the jury's fault". I then came in and said, "the jury is there for one reason, to decide whether or not the defendant is guilty", "the jurors failed to see that, so they absolutely did fail Caylee". You then said, "Juries don't work like that", then spewed off with irrelevant info again. Tell me, ScoCon, If juries aren't tasked with convicting the guilty, why is the definition of "Jury", "a body of people (typically twelve in number) sworn to give a verdict in a legal case on the basis of evidence submitted to them in court"? Also, tell me how they did Caylee justice by not locking up the person who murdered her. I don't care about all these irrelevant details about how the court system works. I am telling you, ScoCon, they did not do this little girl justice by letting her murderer of a mother off scott free, so they failed her. There are only 2 options here. Either the jury did Caylee right by not convicting her, or they did her wrong. Since you believe they didn't do her wrong, explain how they did her right. Don't attack me ad hominem again. Justify your position.
I watched a lot of the trial and agreed with the verdict. The prosecution should not have sought the death penalty against her and they relied too heavily on Anthony’s poor moral character; the jury was reluctant to convict her of murder/manslaughter without seeing any evidence as to how the child died. The prosecution should have charged her with multiple counts of obstruction of justice.
6 likes@Ray the defense disputed everyone of those pieces of evidence, the developer of the software that analyzed the browser search history admitted at trial that “chloroform” had been searched for only once and there was a flaw in his software, the defense never claimed that Anthony was always honest with investigators (and she was never “on the stand”, she declined to testify at trial), and the child could have been in the trunk after dying accidentally (like drowning in the swimming pool like the defense postured).
1 like@ScoCon86 so it wasn’t that it was a woman for the defense, it was that particular woman… you might wanna think about how to express yourself a little better
2 likes@Ray you’re wrong dude. You have way too simplistic, 6th grade civics view of how court procedure and jurisprudence work. Jurors must come in with a completely neutral standing and ideally no contamination or knowledge of the case prior, and any contamination from news etc is ordered to be disregarded by the judge. They may only work with that is presented in court. And you’re misunderstanding or ignoring reasonable doubt and innocent until proven guilty. Only one juror needs to be 99% sure instead of 100% and it’s a hung jury, simplistically. You’re kind of being confidently wrong here..
3 likes@Al No, Al, you're just adding in irrelevant factors, subsequently skewing your view on the matter. If you've been following, you'd know I previously stated I'm aware of how court procedures work. I also followed the trial. It doesn't matter how they came to the decision she wasn't guilty,("court procedure and jurisprucence" in mind,) they failed Caylee when they failed to convict her murderer. Plain and simple. If you don't believe so, justify your reasoning for believing Caylee was done right by them not convicting her murderer. There is no third option here. Either Caylee was done right by the outcome of the trial, or she wasn't.
1 like@Ray you obviously don’t have anything past middle school understanding. Their job is not “to convict the guilty” the way you phrase it alone shows you don’t have the understandings they are there to render a verdict based on presents evidence. If you followed the trial you saw how hard the defense lawyer worked the case and how poorly the prosecutors did. If it’s just up to the jurors to “convict the guilty” what are the judge and lawyers for?
3 likesYou keep just writing in circles insisting your right without actually backing up your claim and you continue to display amazing ignorance. It’s crossed back into funny again. How they came to the decision that she wasn’t guilty is EVERYTHING. The fact that you think it’s nothing is the nail in your coffin.
@Al I'll make it incredibly simple for you. Lets say a demolition crew was set to destroy a building. Everything goes as planned, but later, they find a body in the rubble. Did they fail this dead person? Sure, they didn't have knowledge of his whereabouts and he could've snuck in at any time, but that person is dead and Its their role to ensure no one is in the building prior to it blowing up. They failed to ensure this, as evidenced by the dead person, so they failed said dead person. Just as, that jury failed to do their job, which is to convict the guilty, so they failed Caylee. This isn't a debate.
1 like@Ray I understand being pissed at the outcome and the lack of justice for this little girl but the people you’re actually pissed at are the prosecution team for not being able to handle the burden of proof and provide the jury evidence outside of a shadow of doubt that the judge allowed for deliberation and the fact that they got chased out of the court room by a sleazy little defense lawyer who successful out doubt in some of their minds. That’s all it takes. A sliver of doubt, if they had convicted despite the sliver of doubt it would have been wrong. This is the system we work with.
3 likes@Ray I also explained several times to you why you are wrong in assuming the jury is independent of whatever the prosecution and defense says to them. So I am now done attempting to explain it to you further, since you are stuck with your misunderstanding of how US Justice works.
0 likesHowever, I wish you the best, and I hope you live longer than you're supposed to. Good luck.
Oh, and I'll let you have the Last Word - you're welcome!
@ScoCon86 And I've explained to you multiple times, it doesn't matter how they came to the conclusion, they failed Caylee when they failed to convict her murderer. Both of you keep bringing up irrelevant info, when the fact of the matter is, the jurors are there to "give a verdict in a legal case on the basis of evidence submitted to them in court". In this case, if their verdict reflected reality, Casey would've been convicted as the murderer she is. She wasn't convicted. Meaning, the Jurors verdict was wrong and they subsequently failed Caylee.
2 likes@Ray lol dude. The irony of claiming someone can’t process by logic. Where do you think the jurors get the information in order the make the decision? And you keep sticking by this “they are there to convict the guilty” line and don’t understand why you are writing in circles. They are there to render a verdict solely with information provided by both sides and allowed into deliberation by the judge.
6 likesI still can’t stop laughing that you truly said it doesn’t matter how the jury came to their decision… it’s too much. Enjoy high school little buddy,.
@Al I keep telling you I'm aware of how they get their information. I'm aware of how the court system works. I've literally been on jury duty.. twice.. I'm telling you, It doesn't matter how the jury came to their decision, because HER MURDERER IS FREE. Since her murderer is free, she wasn't given justice. Since she wasn't given justice, she was failed by those who were supposed to give her justice. You literally just said the jurors are "allowed into deliberation by the judge". What do you think they're doing in there? They're going over the case, then determining the outcome. THEY determine the outcome. Here's the definition of deliberation "Jury deliberation is the process by which a jury in a trial in court discusses in private the findings of the court and DECIDES WHICH ARGUMENT TO AGREE UPON. After receiving the jury instructions and hearing the final arguments, the jury retires to the jury room to begin deliberating."
2 likesSo, you can't refute the jury were the ones who gave her the not-guilty verdict, and can't refute Caylee's denial of justice after her murderer was given this verdict, so I don't understand why you're still even here. It's absolutely nonsensical to say Caylee wasn't failed, or let down, when her murderer wasn't convicted, regardless of whose fault it was. It's just as absurd as saying a jury doesn't convict those who are guilty.
@Ray oh god, still sticking with the jury convicts the guilty thing. Semantics is everything in this case, it’s again the basis of our legal system. The jury does not presume guilt and seek to confirm it, the jury listens to evidence and weighs whether there is sufficient proof or reasonable doubt to render a verdict on a person who is in a state of innocence in the courtroom until proven otherwise. You seem to not grasp semantics at all.
3 likes@vidura nice bait 9/10
3 likes@Ray so you truly see no fault with the performance the prosecutor put in or the way the defense lawyer introduced reasonable doubt (if a jury has true reasonable doubt and acts against it they are breaking our laws despite how unfair you see it). It’s only the jury’s fault?
1 likeI don’t see any need to continue interacting with you. It’s pretty obvious you are just googling definitions and scrambling to form sentences with them, despite not understanding any of the interactions within the system.
@Al Why do you keep making all these unfounded accusations about me instead of addressing the points I've made? What am I googling? What don't I understand? You keep acting as if you're the arbiter of all things court related, without ever being on a jury, as you apparently aren't understanding of how a jury goes over information given to them.
0 likesYou say, "If a jury has true reasonable doubt and acts against it they are breaking out laws". I ask you, WHERE DOES THAT REASONABLE DOUBT COME FROM?? It comes from the jurors, discussing the matter. All the jurors are are individuals with differing opinions. When presented with contradicting evidence, many of them will have different views and "what if" scenarios. Its up to them to converse, then agree on a single outcome. That outcome doesn't always reflect reality, though, but you still seem to think all the info presented to the jurors are facts, and they aren't there to determine whether or not the defendant or prosecutor are presenting false facts.
That logic is contradictory, though, because you've admitted multiple times, jurors do determine whether or not someone is guilty. "Despite how unfair you see it", those jurors were wrong when they "rendered a verdict solely with the information provided"(along with their own views when given contradictory evidence), and came to the conclusion Casey wasn't guilty, thereby letting Caylee down by not convicting her mother. How is this not the case? Where am I wrong? Stop attacking me ad hominem in order to cover up your ignorance. Justify your position, Al, and don't bring up irrelevant info again.
@Al Zach's response applies to you as well.
0 likes@vidura Tell your children that if your'e a parent if you're not tell your parents yourself
1 likeIf you know better learn to love people unlike Casey Dammit!
If she did murder Caylee then the jury did nothing wrong, the prosecution failed her. It's a tricky case, one very disturbed mother and two parents who have a questionable past but present well. Where did these sociopathic traits come from? we can't know but I regard everyone in this case with suspicion. The conspiracy's floating around about this are some of the only ones I will ever believe, there's a whole lot we'll never know. One thing I will definitely say though is that Casey never should have been allowed to keep her child
0 likes@ScoCon86 Plus the death penalty was on the table. A jury doesn't want to send an innocent person to death row, so even the slightest bit of doubt will shut down a guilty verdict. I think the prosecution was too comfortable and assumed it'd be a slam dunk.
3 likes@HotCoffee Yes, these people are insane. Equally disgusted by some of the comments as by Casey.
0 likes@vidura nice bait mate 👌
1 like@vidura you misspelled "piece of shit" as "unique human being". It's ok we all make mistakes
4 likes@Tomas Ten Cate why ???
0 likes@ScoCon86 How dare you treat anybody 'Mentally Challenged' when you're the only one who insults and attacks others in the first place? The underlying irony of your attitude is tremendous.
0 likesHopefully the book reopens her case and she faces justice.
0 likesShe's writing a book??? Are you kidding me??
2 likesForward written by OJ Simpson?
Illustrations by Bill Cosby?
Fuck sakes people...
I saw a magazine talking about how she's a mother again today. I didn't look inside, just saw her on the cover and remembered this case. The magazine also used the picture that makes her look crazy.
1 likeSo if she gives birth, wouldn't that be theoretically repaying her dues/deeds.
1 likeMr Diaz (lawyer) sure is a professional 👏
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0 likesKnowing that makes me cringe. Having a murderer walk around freely and attempting to spread knowledge about how to get away with lying.
1 like@vidura wtf
0 likes@Ray
0 likesYou’re incorrect.
movie already came. in her very own name.
0 likesYes the did! Totally failed that beautiful girl!
0 likes@vidura Buddy, that's cringe as hell. Based on your pfp, you're not a 9 year-old 4chan edgelord. You're way too old to pretend you're Dexter.
2 likesFFS.. How she couldn't have had a IUD in the a dr just "forgot about" over a decade ago is insane. Wolves could raise those children better.
1 likeWait, did they just release her ?
0 likesUn-freaking believable!!!!!!!
0 likesA freaking monster.
0 likesIt really baffles me how even though everything points at Casey (the smell of corpse in her car, not reporting her supposedly missing child for a month, being too calm despite the fact that her child is missing, lying about almost every detail she'd given, and the weird internet searches about suffocating someone) and yet she was deemed as not guilty. This case really leaves an unsettling feeling in my chest, especially on the fact that she's living a free life after what had happened.
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she's still reproducing too. our justice system absolutely fucking failed here. miserably failed.
93 likesIt's because the prosecution went for premeditated murder charges. They just couldn't prove the case they were trying to make, but they had plenty of evidence for lesser charges. Unfortunately the jury did their jobs. For what the prosecution was charging, there was reasonable doubt.
45 likesright..
0 likes@Jennifer Wirth so she didn't go to the jail? where is her daughter's body tho
2 likes@Jennifer Wirth spot on - most average folkes don’t understand the law
5 likes@Liçá It has quite little to do with race, The difference between black and white conviction rates from trials can be accounted for by the fact that white people are more likely to afford a good lawyer. Of course there's reasons why this is and im not denying systemic racism affects black Americans because it does, If you think she got away simply because of her skin colour then you're likely wrong there, But if you are saying she got away because she's white and white people can generally afford better lawyers etc because of systemic issues you would be right, A lot of people seem to believe its simply because of skin colour though sadly, Which is incorrect.
18 likes@Homunculus if Casey Anothony had a public defender she probably would have been charged and convicted of with capital murder.
8 likesOJ joined the chat
0 likesShe is proven a sociopath but she wasn't proven guilty. Even tho we all know she did it, evidence is required to convict someone of murder.
0 likes@Kayla well that's sad
0 likes@Homunculus ...
0 likesUpside down world…
0 likesWhose the corpse?
0 likesAlso, at the time of this happening, she didn't have a dime to her name. Which would say she paid her lawyer with sex. Read an article about a man going to interview her(she was staying with the lawyer who represented her)and as he approached he saw casey running out of the door naked. The article didn't really elaborate much more, but clearly sex was her money, or it seems.
5 likes@Tori Barnes She was skating on thin ice. The police were stupid not to pick up on zanny the nanny when she told police who had been watching her kid. What she did will be remembered when it comes to interrogation techs next time. It was clear Oj killed his wife and he still got away with it. Casey had some of the same lawyers that helped oj go free.
3 likesI've been in a retired police vehicle and the smell of death of a person killed in their patrol car was still there, no matter how much they tried to sterilize it it was still there. It always made me uncomfortable whenever I rode in that vehicle and that was before the history of the car. You can literally smell that someone was killed in it
0 likes@Jennifer Wirth no, there was no reasonable doubt, get out of here.
1 like@Sergio'S VeggieS for a pre-meditated murder charge? Yes there was enough doubt. They could have proved she did it, but they couldn't exactly prove that she planned it out. They built a case out of the wrong charge
0 likes@Jennifer Wirth I don't know if you've looked into everything about this case. This video doesn't show just how much evidence there was. Read the wiki on the case, there is tremendous evidence. I guess the talented lawyer convinced the jury there wasn't proof beyond reasonable doubt, but the definition of what is reasonable doubt seems to not be understood. It was not reasonable, at all, to doubt she murdered her child, premeditated. I fully disagree with you.
0 likes@Sergio'S VeggieS I went to high school with Casey. I lived nearby. We all knew everything about the case. The prosecution left a couple of holes that her defense attorney was able to fill with reasonable doubt. Even her looking up chloroform was argued away as Casey maybe wanting to make Caylee sleep. It didn't necessarily point to premeditated.
0 likes@Homunculus so you’re saying biases doesn’t exist
0 likes@Skrilla there's just no demonstrable bias that can't be accounted for that money or access to a lawyer doesn't account for.
0 likes@Homunculus, first of all, she went away because they could not prove that she is guilty, because otherwise she would go to jail, about what you've been mentioned, if you are a black guy but there is a strong evidence that you are guilty, no one will help you even with a billion of dollars, but is you are not guilgy, than, you can make a case that sometimes you need someone to present yourself better than you do, BUT, this cases are VERY, VERY, VERY rare because you have to not be guilty (which is rare when you have acusations) than the police have to think that you are guilty (but there are profesionals and they are not stupid) which again it minimazes the equation, and then you have to not be abel to afford to take a lawyer in USA but bear in mind that UsA is a very rich country, where you have credit cards, you can borrow money, you have family, friends.
0 likesSo, in order to not be guilty and to go in jail, it happens but it is very, very, very rare, so, the question of Ben Shapiro stands up, why 13%of population(black people) are in charge of 50% of the criminal offence?
Because they have no money for lawyers??
It does not make any sense.
And, btw, there are a lot of countries in the world that they are not even close enough rich as Black people are from USA, what to say, that all those countries have people in jail because they have no money and they can't afford a good lawyer?
That is not a good hypothesis at all.
@Nichita Samuel I'm not sure if what I said went through, so I'll say it again, your argument against Ben Shapiro's position is a strawman because he never uses the lawyer argument in regards to crime rates, but in regards to conviction rates for the same crime, so yes what you said does sense to you because it's a strawman position and miss characterisation of the argument, so it makes sense to you, but I nor him used that argument for crime rates but conviction rates, so it does make sense and is perfectly valid in that regard, as in the regard and situation it's was supposed to be used in, it feels awful to defend Ben shapiro because I myself am very left leaning, but you are incorrect here.
0 likesDoes drowning in a pool not count as suffocation? If she wanted to hide her drowned child would that not make her car smell? What unsettling feeling? In both possibilities the same outcome happens with the same evidence. The only thing the defense had to do is pertain that, and they did so she walked. Don't blame the people, blame the system, but if the system was revised people would be blaming the exact opposite. After hundreds of years in this system, and thousands that shaped humanity, this is the answer we found. We need definitive proof. Its sad that all Casey had to do was wait enough time to cover up the suffocation due to lack of air, by stuffing her in a place where decomposition happens faster, so she could say it was suffocation due to water. It is plausible she was duct taped so Kaylee wouldn't leak up pool water while Casey was trying to transport the body to hide her death, but we know what it was. To save innocent people being locked up, we have to make sacrifices like this. There can't be any doubts, the easiest way to do it is with a confession but she smartened to it.
0 likesCasey is innocent. There's no physical evidence that she did something with Kaylee, she's just a congenital liar. Leave this poor woman alone she lost her child.
0 likesI have 10 minutes left and started reading the comments, I assumed she was going to be found guilty but to read that she is now free walking the streets is incredibly infuriating.
0 likesWasn't there hair as well
0 likesShe did an internet search for “suffocation”. Man how the hell do lawyers like that sleep at night.
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with a pillowcase filled to the brim with money.
420 likes@Yeahtoasty that wouldn’t be very comfortable though. Also not a very efficient way to store money.
39 likesI’m thinking the same thing about the jury.
44 likesEverybody deserves a defense, even Casey Anthony. The Jury should’ve not fallen for the defense though. The evidence spoke for itself.
181 likeshow did Casey afford this guy? she clearly wasn’t rolling in it
26 likes@Luc Gusmundson sometimes lawyers take up cases for publicity than money; this was a heavily publicized case. Even if he posted his billboard on every corner of city, it wouldn’t give him the same publicity
88 likesLawyers perform a necessary job. They must hate the jury, though.
16 likes@Aashna Thakor the greed, Jesus Christ
0 likes@Luc Gusmundson there was quite a lot of speculation that anthony and her lawyer were having a sexual relationship
7 likeslol I wanted to be a lawyer when I was younger and that changed after I did more research plus I’d be scared if I put someone in jail and they come for me 😭🤚
9 likesShe was screwing her lawyer. He knew she was guilty.
7 likesThey sold their souls, so they sleep, but have nightmares.
4 likes@Zach its his job, the jury fel for it
8 likes@Safiyyah Lyle This can actually happen. I had the same thoughts. I was also thinking about the amount of years I would spend just reading. Nah.
0 likesThe defense lawyer Baez stated that the dad wanted to kill himself after learning of Caylee's death
0 likes@thatminer the fact that it pays his bills doesn’t make it less scummy. Selling fentanyl to jr high students is a job too, it’s just a slightly more noble one
6 likes@catlady Not psycopaths, they're sociopaths
3 likesIf we had a lot of psycopaths on the top of society's hierarchy, just a few of us would still be alive: They would be killing people for no reason at all; Not for for profit or for whatever other benefit, just for no reason.
@Zach should we instead return to the good old times when people had no legal defense and were stoned because "God" told the judge they were guilty?
8 likesYou have to provide the best defence you can otherwise the system doesn't work and justice is not merely difficult but impossible.
3 likesThink of them like a guy who deals with sewage blockages or caring for the mentally ill.
I think a pillow stuffed with money help a lot XD
0 likes@S Critoph it won’t be too long until God will judge each and every person face to face
0 likes@Zach how much longer? been a couple thousand years.
0 likes@Daniel sanchezaldana could be today for you, who knows
0 likes@catladyJeez! Your answer is almost 100% disconnected from what I said
0 likesTry practicing some text interpretation: Read again your first comment in this comment section, then read my answer to that comment
First, I was talking about the lawyers, and not Casey. You said that the lawyers - and other people who make to the top of society's hierarchy - are psychopaths. I refuted that by saying they can only be sociopaths, because psycopaths would be killing people for no reason at all due to their insanity.
Second, you're stating that the difference between psychopaths and sociopaths is only about the origins of their behaviour, which is not true. There is also a big difference in the behaviour itself. The most recent video in this channel demonstrates how big that difference is: Psycopaths can commit the most horrendous crimes without having a reason and even without properly planning what to do after, because they are insane; Sociopaths will aways seek some benefit for themselves while committing crimes, which makes them rather sane people but also complete narcissists.
@Zach I’ll let you know tomorrow.
0 likes@Absolute Zero on her computer?
0 likes@Daniel sanchezaldana The odds are in your favor but they get smaller every day . One day they will be 0 and there will be no more chances to accept refuge from Gods wrath.
0 likesthink about it this way, if she didn’t pay for
0 likesA lawyer a lawyer would be provided to her by the government itself, what happened is vile and horrible but the legal system
Believes in a fair trial for everyone which fucking bites when you know they’re guilty and the jury buys it that shit sucks to see.
@Luc Gusmundson Because it was a high-profile capital-punishment case.
0 likesHer elite-lawyers very likely worked for free because they love these cases.
It’s their equivalent of being on American-Idol-Lawyers-Edition after which they get book-deals, speaking-engagements, high-level clients who pay full-price, etc.
And so their potentially 500-dollar-an-hour salaries were ‘written off’ for this one and the likely at least 500,000 dollar bill was on-the-house. No charge.
They did their jobs. Everybody deserves their day in court, with a attorney doing their best to defend them.
2 likes@Ethan Goldrup "when you know they are guilty"
0 likesYou don't, and that is exactly why there is a court system and if you could 100% prove they were guilty, then that person sould lose their case. It's that simple. We can assume she's guilty and while she probably is, there wasnt enough evidence to prove without a shadow of a doubt that she murdered her daughter
@Zach We are not a society of angels, and we shouldn’t expect to live in one. Our justice system and monetary system aren’t perfect, but they do a lot of good.
1 likeI for one am grateful that verdicts like this are relatively rare and that we can reasonably expect it to serve as bedrock for future improvements.
@Zach still here bro.
1 like@Sharpe Everyone deserves the right to ask for a defence, but anyone who would be willing to defend a woman like this after looking at the evidence is pure evil.
0 likes@James Lee that’s awfully optimistic of you
0 likes@Zach yes sir.
0 likesThey know that people will see this case, see how obviously guilty casey was and that the lawyer still got her off. Which means people will flock to this vile ass man to be on their defence. 🤑💰💸
0 likesUS lawyers are supposed to give the best defense they can, even if they themselves know its bullshit. Everyone has a right to a good defense, thought I can understand the frustration, especially with cases like these.
0 likesBy money 💰
0 likesIt’s an honorable job. If you were accused of a crime I’ll bet you’d want a good lawyer too. Guilty or not
1 likethis lady makes me sick, rip little angel caylee
1 likeThe jury should be ashamed of themselves.
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i completely agree who in their right mind would fall for their lies
68 likesOne recently came out and he says it still haunts him that he didn't take a stand
108 likesThe prosecution didn’t have enough physical evidence to convince the jury. I guarantee you nearly every one of them know in their hearts that Casey did it. But that’s not their job, their job is to decide the evidence disproves all possible scenarios except murder, which it didn’t unfortunately.
35 likesTbf though, her lawyer was kinda the best lawyer ever so...
26 likes@Luke Cloudstrider I could see through all of the bullshit that was happening. They really need to IQ test the jury. Casey was full of it and so was the lawyer. I could tell he was talking down to the jury as well. I can't believe people can't see.
26 likes@Dixi E Normous Congratulations, so could the jury. Unfortunately they're not there to decide if the lawyer or even the defendant is full of shit. Every single one who's spoken about this case says they think she was probably guilty but the evidence wasn't there. People don't (or at least shouldn't) get sentenced to life or potentially the death penalty because people are "pretty sure" they did it.
33 likesBetter the guilty walk free than the innocent hang, as sickening as cases like this are.
@Nagassh tell me your theory then since you still believe she is innocent despite the hour and 40 minute video showing how heartless and cold blooded this "mother" Is. I would really hope someone would report you missing after an hour and not months when your body is decomposed. But I guess that would be alright with you.
3 likes@Dixi E Normous that’s not at all what they said, all they said is that it’s not the juries duty to decide what’s bullshit or not, it’s to see whether the evidence presented can prove beyond a reasonable doubt guilt, which they said multiple jurors have said they believed otherwise
23 likesWelcome to Democrat Party's America.
5 likes@Joe I know. I want to know why they believe she is innocent just like you believe so.
3 likesMany evidence that she does not care. The motive is she wanted to live a party life and would rather show her parents that her child was kidnapped so they would still love her. She was scared of her parents more than the consequences of a dead child. The defender only brought up molestation to emotionally control the jury. Looks like that lawyer can deceive even you.
@dustyak79 wait who is he?
0 likes@Famous. phia I didn’t look after watching the video I looked up what the killer was doing now and an article popped up I skimmed through it
0 likes@dustyak79 no lol I meant like who is “he” you referred to someone as “he” (he regrets...) I’m trying to figure who the “he” is. Is it the attorney that defended Casey?
0 likes@Famous. phia no a Juror referring to the op comment
0 likes@Ukraino TV Sean hannity supported Casey lol
1 like@Dixi E Normous I don't think saying not guilty means innocence. It simply means that there isn't enough evidence to prove guilty. Searching on google is not evidence of murder, nor is a rotting smell in the car.
0 likes@Dixi E Normous the dude never said she was innocent bru
1 like@TGM-_- do you have anything to add? Nah. K.
0 likesThey actually really really are
0 likes@SS The evidence is all of her lies compiled together to show her obvious guilt, her not reporting her missing, etc...they should have sought a confession too but how did they not find any physical evidence though? Did they search her car?
1 like@Dixi E Normous none of us believe she was innocent get that through your head
1 like@Chad Thundercock cope, the courts disagree, what he did years prior had nothing to do with his death
1 likeHonestly I don’t think I can blame the jury too much. So much information that we know now proves her guilty, wasn’t shown in court.
2 likesIt’s like the OJ trial, it’s easy to play armchair juror after the fact, but they can only go off of what they’re presented in court.
Why?
0 likes@adrian quintanar they could have used jury nullification...
0 likes@Ukraino TV Florida is a red state
0 likes@Purple Heart FYI. In the court JUDGES and jury who convict, not State's authorities. All judges and prosecutors are INDOCTRINATED in Liberal/Socialist Universities.
1 likeThe Jury's role is not to say if they think she is guilty or not, it's to say if the evidences and proofs are beyond any reasonable doubt... And saddly the lawyers were able to throw a veil of doubt on her guilt.
2 likesThe jury did their job. Her lawyers did a very questionnable move and it worked...
@Joe you can't even explain. Why comment? Bye.
1 like@Julian aye thanks stranger. But I'm not into old guys, sorry.
0 likes@Dixi E Normous I don't think anyone thinks she's innocent, I certainly don't, however unfortunately the jury couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she was guilty. Hopefully one day she'll pay for what she did but we can't blame the jury for doing their job with the evidence they were given.
0 likes@Heart shaped Box They were 11-1 not guilty for manslaughter and he literally said fine whatever you guys want and changed his vote
0 likes@Lizy Blueeyes If you know, then how can you say that it's not beyond reasonable doubt... The fact she lied and didn't call the police for a month and clearly didn't care is enough to charge her. At least for neglegance for fucks sake. Not telling anyone for a month is the primer example of it. She was not charged just because she's a woman.
0 likesI hate that during her talk with her parents
1875 likesHer dad said “I wish I could’ve been a better father and grandfather”
And Casey said “don't think that for a second Kailey HAS BEEN so lucky” and then she corrects herself and said “Kailey IS so lucky”
Sick
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I was lookin for this observation since he didn't mention it.
90 likesThat could also mean up to this point, not necessarily including the present moment.
51 likes@Vinny Mac First she said "had been", and then changed to "has been"
28 likes@Sri Sruthi yes, but it does make sense in this context.
0 likesThat's not an argument.
Wonder why he said that?
3 likesI noticed the exact same thing! So strange that while the search was still going on, Casey subconsciously talked about her daughter in the past tense...
22 likesAnd she only corrected herself bc her mom covered her mouth
9 likes"Has been" is not a final past tense. Has been is a continuous past tense.
12 likesThread-top content is at around 29:38, I believe.
1 likeI saw that too.
0 likesThe mother spot it before I did
0 likesyesss came looking for this comment
1 like@Ryan Owens regardless if it's final past or not ( semantics) we both know she's guilty from your profile pic you appear to be a lawyer I presume not a very good one go figure
0 likes@Funtcase tuckfard nah, I'm a financial advisor. We all know she's guilty; but that statement is not necessarily the smoking gun that Emma thinks it is.
2 likesNot much to go on to be honest.
0 likesHas been is a present tense verb. There is no past tense in that phrase or than a continuing action from the last. Learn to grammar
0 likesPast not last
0 likesI was thinking that too
0 likesOmg. This was so not well judged
0 likesDefense: There's no evidence to prove that Casey killed Caylee.
2460 likesAlso Defense: There's no evidence to prove that George sexually assaulted Caylee, but we want you to believe that this is the ONE time that Casey isn't lying through her teeth.
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it's disgusting the lengths some lawyers will go to in these situations
174 likesExactly. I cant believe they were able to throw that shit out there with no proof.
99 likesThis
4 likesProfile pic fits well
9 likesBelieve ALL women!
13 likes@DTHRocket jose biaz is not a woman😉
13 likesTechnically the judge did tell them they can’t use that as evidence for the defense’s story
2 likesYes, you are right. But, no prove means not guilty. Easy. Where is your problem?
1 like@alt13 It was their job. Disgusting, but they were doing their job.
8 likesI now understand why people make jokes about lawyers being heartless.
8 likes@DTHRocket i do think we should believe women..but her and jodi make it REALLY fucking hard too which sucks...
1 like@Ibra heem its their job
1 likeAnd justice for all my ass, can't even bring proper justice on someone who lied about her missing daughter whereabouts, and death...
6 likesTruly sickens me.
@Theo Thats a poor fkin excuse, people with morals don't care when you say "I was just doing my job"
4 likes@SUBST4NCE To quote Cool Hand Luke, "callin' it your job don't make it right, boss."
6 likes@Henry Benson lawyers enforce the law, not justice. Law exists to settle, let's just say, "disagreements". whatever that might be.
1 likeThe defense's job is to defend their client. They are not allowed to do anything but defend their clients. If they had thrown this case and it came out later then they would lose their license. Justice was not served, but the system worked as the Founding Fathers intended. The state failed to prove guilt to the jury.
3 likesHorrible case but her lying is hilarious.
1 likeBro that guy has supremely greed for money.or Casey makes his weenie hut jr wet
1 like@StudleyDuderight They do have to defend their client but they also have ethical guidelines to follow. A flimsy child abuse story is riding that line pretty close. Defense lawyers are not allowed to knowingly lie in their client's defense.
1 like@Travis C It isn't a lie if the client says it isn't. Lawyers' hands are tied because they can be disbarred if they do anything to intentionally hurt their client's case. If the lawyer was the one to come up the story then it would be a violation of ethics, but there is no way to prove or disprove that. The father could have taken a polygraph but those are not admissible as evidence, and you cannot force someone to take one.
0 likesShe is pure evil.
0 likesThe fact that she is walking free and trying to release a book, and a movie, and dating the private investigator that worked on her case just... blows my mind. I'm speechless, what a psychopath!
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What the hell is the private investigator thinking? If they have another kid does he think it'll be safe?
84 likes@Harshvardhan Kanthode Sometimes sociopaths are attracted to sociopaths. Even if they have a child on purpose, that child will be just a thing/accessory for them. There will be no love, attachment.
80 likes@Jerrod Butali most probably
26 likesWTF
4 likesThis is infuriating
12 likesShe was never a danger to society, and still isn't. Even if she had another kid with this investigator, I don't think she'd be a threat. While what she did is not excusable, I also don't think rotting in a jail cell using up tax dollars is ideal. There's been plenty of way worse criminals who get a second chance.
1 likewait, WHAT?
6 likesWHAT?!!
9 likes@Dom I’m obviously not as smart as you, would you mind explaining for me?
20 likes@Dom its not a matter of being a danger or not (which I personally think she is anyways). Its the fact that actions deserve consequences, no one should walk free after doing what she did
39 likes@Dom you are a fool for even thinking so
9 likeswhat the fr- ACTUALLY??!?!? I saw she was doing a movie but like... WHO AND WHY WOULD THEY JUST LET HER DO THIS STUFF?? SHE STRAIGHT UP MURDERED A CHILD. HER CHILD.
5 likes@moodied 🤕🤕 this world is evil and manipulating
1 likeShe is beautiful. Most men would have a go if they had a chance. They will never have a chance so they talk bad about her.
0 likesShe is a liar. Yes. Nobody knows if she is a murderer (Ok, she knows it and the real murderer, IF there is one, so 1-2 persons).
now why the fuck would the PI that worked her case do that- 💀 also a book AND a movie?!?!?! i hope nobody picks it up because thats so fucking fucked if they do
1 like:O
0 likesOnly in Florida
0 likesThat’s a straight up superpower how’d she pull that off
0 likesWho is the REAL Casey Anthony??? Does any body know? Is there any video or audio recordings that exist, showing the real person inside? Does her journal contain evidence of her real personality? Does SHE EVEN KNOW WHO SHE REALLY IS? Maybe she spent so many years hiding her sickness, that she forgot who she really is, the partying leads me to believe she spent a lot of time numbing her true feelings, and trying to escape her mediocre suburban existence...? Thats IMHO of course, but I'm very interested in the girl behind the mask, and why she couldn't face her real feelings? Did she have no outlet for her pain? She certainly wouldn't be alone in those feelings. Was it pure un-adulterated SELFISHNESS? That is an ugly thing to show people, I can only imagine a girl in her social circles of suburban conformity wouldn't find to many people who could relate, or who WANT to relate. And all this would be theoretical, and interesting, and basically okay IF...she hadn't either killed or neglected or ignored the fact that her innocent child is gone, wrapped in a Winnie the Pooh blanket at the bottom of a swamp with pieces of duct tape around her mouth and nose... And accuse your own father of molesting you... wow, unbelievable selfishness and cold, icy cold heart of darkness.
0 likesFriend: obviously crying “if anything happens to that baby I’ll die!”
4221 likesCasey: “ugh! Calling you guys is a huge waste of time!”
BITCH, WHAT!?!
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At that point if I were her friend or brother I would have immediately known she had something to do with it
215 likes@Gage Oconnor I mean, I 100% think that she was guilty. But that quote doesn't necessarily prove that she is. I think it DOES show that she doesn't care even the slightest about her daughter's wellbeing, or even her family and friends' peace of mind. But I think she would respond that way whether she killed Caylee, or if someone else killed Caylee and she just didn't give a shit.
79 likesBut yeah, that line was as cold and heartless as can be, and if I were in their position, I'd suspect her too. Judging from their questions then, and later when her parents were talking to her in the jail, I think they did.
@Crystal Franklin i know right. Fake graduation party?🤦♀️
20 likesikr like wtf
3 likes@Crystal Franklin seriously. i blame this partly on the parents for letting these behaviors slide
20 likesThe burden of proof is with the prosecution. Simple as that NOT GUILTY says the JURY WHY cos we saw no proof !!!
1 like@David HHL that's it in a nutshell.... like it or not that's what the jury system offers... While I can understand the emotional outrage and subsequent responses on here, the system has worked exactly how it was designed to. I'll ask anyone on here if they were in a similar situation where the system was somehow against them and did not follow the rule of law or procedure, would you be ok with overlooking any mistakes that led you to go to jail?
0 likesI think not
Makes sense idk why u guys are attacking :P
1 likeEven if she didn't kill her(which I 100% she did) that pute contempt and selfishness is very very telling to her priorities.
2 likesShe should be in jail, this jury is a joke
5 likesAbsolutely cold-blooded
3 likesEven I got goosebumps when she said that cold bloodedly
1 like@David HHL Does "beyond a reasonable doubt" sound familiar?🤦♀️
1 likeShe said ugh and reacted that way because she was disgusted by the display of empathy
1 likethat’s what broke me, your FRIEND cares more about your missing daughter than you
2 likesIt’s because she’s irritated that people are caring about her missing daughter and not her being in jail. She doesn’t even acknowledge her daughters pain, a totally innocent soul and her own damn daughter. She’s disgusting, and now that she got away it fuels more of her belief of being able to lie about everything and get away with it. They did a great job. /s
0 likes@Sam Roberts her brother was super pissed when Casey, then their parents ( Casey lied to them about that to until she was, I think 7 months) didn’t tell him Casey was pregnant until she was few weeks from delivering
0 likes@manchesterblue2007 I think if it wasn’t a death penalty case things might be different. At least some members of the jury said that iirc.
0 likes@Susanne Collins well thats exactly what im referring to...if it was a death penalty case or not, the evidence and arguments for and against the defence should be looked at dispassionately as far as is humanly possible... a lot of people are raising pitchforks.... I have no issue with that after all the evidence is considered in a proper manner and someone is found to be guilty
0 likesin most countries justice is considered to be blind
@manchesterblue2007 that’s why I made peace with the verdict.
1 likeshe killed her child, framed a person that doesn't exist, lied that her friend knows the babysitter that DOESN'T EXIST, lied where she worked, got away with murder and the thing that stuck with me is her saying "i look like hell"
1338 likesshe is so self centered
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All I have to say is Florida 🤦♂️
36 likes@Rick Tobinwhat? That's stupid.
6 likesThat white privilege is so obvious.
41 likes@034bloodas well, technically she said the babysitter was mix of black and puerto rican. Doesn't it count as black?
54 likes@Shahnie LOOOOOL 😂😂😂
0 likes@Shahnie what "white privileges" have to do about this?
30 likes@Shahnie yea tell that to OJ
9 likes@Virgilio OJ had luck. Not black privilege... :/
4 likescause she's white and lives in Florida lol
1 like@Steve Eisenhower Eisenhower lol OJ had white representation, money + power at dispose. Not even on the same playing field darlz.
7 likesHaha ya xany the nany lol Xanax the nanny .. duh
1 likeShe said I look like hell right after her Dad said Hey Gorgeous
2 likes@The Fear Within LOL buzzwords. It’s facts. Happy 2021. Disengaging 👍🏽😂
1 like@Shahnie None of you people provide any amount of evidence other than claiming "it's facts", all you can do is parrot what others say and come to outlandish means.
17 likes@The Fear Within so all her lies aren't evidence? Idk if your a parent but I am an if my child got kidnapped aint no way in hell I'm not calling the police. This ain't "Taken"
4 likes@melvin banks You're misinterpreting what I'm saying, I'm not referring to Casey Anthony, who was obviously guilty.
5 likes@Shahnie //That white privilege is so obvious.// What does race have to do with this? Is feeling entitled and being self-centered a trait of one race, or of human nature itself? Do you really think there have been no mothers lacking empathy who have killed their children from any other race? This is quite a prejudiced comment itself.
9 likesIdk how after first saying the babysitter was mixed then following up with black and whatever she thought of next prompted by the previous suggestion she still kept up the lie it IS SO OBVIOUS she’s just saying what she THINKS THEY WANT TO HEAR. RACIST MUCH.
0 likesSorry but I think race and color haven't got much to do with this case she is just a cold calculated and manipulative murderer. As they said a true psychopath that feels little empathy but for there own self preservation.
4 likes@Shahnie yikes
0 likes@PREDATOREUS FILMS LOL Casey is a crazy person. Race is not all I think of love, just one of the many flawed facts of this case that allowed her to walk free.
0 likeswell only reason why SHE got away with it ar SHE and not HE
0 likes@Shahnie What a joke...
3 likesDo elaborate how this is white privilege, please? And if race plays a part, would her gender play a part too? I'm not being racist or sexist here. But I'm genuinly intrigued why you think race is the primary reason why she got away.
@Absolute DORUIYAAA 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bruh. I look white myself.... ok sir.
0 likesAnd accused her father of being a child molester.
2 likes@NoBSmama
0 likesWhere is Casey Anthony now. January 1st 2021 Casey Anthony has filed documents to start a private investigation firm, according to Florida state records. The address listed for the company belongs to Patrick McKenna, according to Palm Beach County property records.
0 likesMcKenna was the lead investigator on Anthony’s defense team during her 2011 trial.
In a 2017 interview, Anthony told The Associated Press that she had been working for McKenna doing online social media searches and other investigative work. McKenna was also the lead investigator for O.J. Simpson, when he was accused of killing his wife and acquitted
Framing a person that doesn't exist is at least more empathetic than someone that does exist
0 likes@034bloodas it wouldn't have been smart to blame it on a black person because they would have never stopped looking for evidence if they thought that a black person murdered an innocent young white girl
0 likes@Nay DD and money
0 likes@Shahnie yikes
0 likes@Nay DD jackie chiles is one hell of a lawyer, helped Kramer many times 😆😆😆😆
0 likesDon’t forget the lawyer said her dad raped her as an 8 year old when she was talking about how much she loved him previously.
1 likeKarad Jans really? Biologically most would have the motherly instinct to protect their kids, not to mention common sense
0 likesAlso a strand of her daughter’s hair was found in the trunk of the car and through DNA testing, it was concluded the hair had fallen off of the scalp post-mortem. How the hell she didn’t get convicted with this is absolutely beyond me.
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Jury's are very easy to manipulate and that's what this woman and her lawyer were all too good at.
13 likesThey couldn't even find her guilty for child neglect, piss poor mindless jury.
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They're Florida residents. So...
94 likesThey couldn’t find her guilty if they had live footage of her carrying the body to chuck-E-Cheese for a birthday party.
73 likesThey choose jury members based on that. They don't want experienced or educated people. They was people who are easy to manipulate. That's one reason I've never been picked for jury duty.
35 likes@Charity Dunning 👌😂
19 likesCharity Dunning Thanks for the comedy relief, this video was getting pretty dark.
12 likesThe prosecution’s evidence didn’t prove her guilty of first degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt. They didn’t even have cause of death & time of death. It’s not about thinking she’s guilty it’s about the evidence proving she is.
14 likesSimpSity What the hell are you talking about?! So what if random peeps THINK she is guilty. The jury doesn’t have that luxury. In a court of law, jury looks at evidence presented and ONLY evidence presented. The Prosecution did NOT prove her guilt without a reasonable doubt.
7 likesK M Weekes Everyone in jury has a choice, and they could have said guilty there was nothing stopping them but themselves.
2 likes@abcd That is not how the law works. The jury won't convict because "well, we could, if we want!" Grow up.
7 likesGhetto Soup sadly because of the nature of google searches it’s technically circumstantial evidence so even though it’s obvious why she was searching those terms, it doesn’t show the intent behind the searches only that she was searching.
0 likesIt’s kinda ridiculous but there are very rare cases where people are just coincidentally searching shit like that so they have to take it with a grain of salt
Charity Dunning “ they was” lmao don’t worry you’ll be chosen soon girl 😂
0 likes@Charity Dunning that is true, but your experience and education should mostly stay out of jury deliberation and the trial should be approached tabula Rasa
0 likes@Nebula the jury also when interviewed said they thought she was guilty, but it needs to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, so even 99% certainty is not enough to convict
1 like@Marie Chambe the prosecution did not even make the case for neglect. They only brought evidence for murder. You can't convict for a case they never attempted to make, even if the charge is there
1 likeWas that a charge?
0 likes@James Eden Yea its easy to forget that 70% of everyone in a courtroom is a politician trying to get reelected :(
0 likesThe stupidity of the jury is astounding.
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@aestheterita as they should be
283 likes@kaiser1914 0P00
1 like@aestheterita The jury simply fell for Mr Baez's stick. Don't let anger or emotion sway your opinion. Base it on facts. "Like my completely unsubstantiated / unproved statement that Casey's Dad molested her."
120 likes@ItsAlwaysRusty He is a demon. A gaslighting demon. He played to their egos, and checkmated them making them look like they were choosing the illogical route if they chose her to be guilty. Casey should be rotting in prison and the Jury is responsible for falling for the demon's court room magic tricks and mindfuckery. Awful.
77 likes@Lola DewClaw ur def right but it’s his job and he’s really good at it
20 likes@Zer0 Actually it's not the job of the defense attorney to lie to the court. He knows damn well what happened. It's his job to lessen the sentence, not to lie.
68 likes@Justin Baker You're completely missing the point
50 likes@Justin Baker ah, found the Casey Anthony fanboy.
48 likesWell all the smart people are smart enough to get out of jury duty.
7 likesHopefully you'll reconsider going next time you get the postcard.
Thats is the US broken justice system sadly.
6 likesits not a question of jury stupidity. They need a body or an admission of guilt to convict; the evidence isn't strong enough to establish that she did it i guess
4 likes@El hurricane he literally just explained how a criminal trial works and what the prosecution did wrong in the trial. How exactly is he a fanboy of a child murderer?
13 likes@Justin Baker 💯
1 like@Justin Baker The whole jury system is stupid and obsolete. Theatrics and acting should not be what decides on whether justice will be served. How many uncharismatic innocent people were convicted in bogus cases? How many well-spoken psychopaths were let free based on their rhetoric?
29 likes@Justin Baker definitely weren't taught that at school in the UK.
3 likes@aestheterita and as mean as this sounds, I hope they do feel guilty every day of the rest of their lives. Because of their stupidity that child's murder will not be vindicated. She will get no justice. Poor innocent baby. I hope Casey Anthony has the most miserable existence for the rest of her days, then goes on to the fieriest pit of Hell.
8 likes@El hurricane looks that way. Pathetic that he has to crush on a child murderer.
4 likes@Rachel Tydlacka there's a lot of people who are fanboys and are in love with a child murderer. According to what I've read, the jury was afraid to find her guilty, even though they believed she was guilty.
8 likesIt's not the justice system here, the jury just was weak.
@Totallynotkyubey it's one thing to be uncharismatic during a trial. It's quite the difference from showing ZERO CONCERN that her child is "missing". As in the video they showed of her shopping for a movie with her boyfriend at Blockbuster during the time her daughter was supposedly missing. But of course she wasn't concerned... she already knew she was dead because she killed her. You need not have to go on emotion to have seen that this woman is guilty. The evidence was all there. Prosecution just sucks. I hope they all lost their jobs. Not to mention the jury was a bunch of single-cell organisms.
9 likes@David B ive seen convictions with less.
3 likesI watched every available juror interview and not ONE of them struck me as even remotely competent or intelligent. It was immediately made clear to me how they could ignore so much evidence and fall for Casey's lies and her defense team's manipulation. People like to say "the prosecution failed Caylee" but after seeing the interviews I'm now of the belief that it never actually mattered how well the prosecution presented their case, because the IDIOTS on the jury would've found a way to write it all off as "just speculation". As one youtube comment joked, Casey could've written "Today I killed my daughter" in her diary and the jury still would've said "This could mean anything really". Yes, they are THAT stupid!
11 likes@Lola DewClaw Yeah I agree except the dude is paid to do that and he kinda has to defend her. He's just good at his job. You can't blame it on him, it was the jury throwing
0 likes@Justin Baker aestheterita said "I read a statement that said that 10 years later some of the jurors came forward and said they felt guilty about not convicting her." Also the jury literally threw. If you really think there is a chance she is not guilty then I don't know what to say.
2 likesThe dude just was amazing at his job and the jury weren't.
@Justin Baker yeah...and OJ''s not guilty
3 likes@Justin Baker that would be a good point if there was any plausible doubt. There was no doubt of her guilt. None. People have been rightfully convicted on less. Most people are convicted on circumstantial evidence.
6 likes@Justin Baker if the verdict was correct, then why are jury members feeling guilty? Something went wrong obviously.
5 likesThe prosecution did make a mistake. They shouldn't have required for the death penalty with only circumstancial evidences. Of course the jury felt guilty at the idea of sentencing a potentially innocent (read: I DO NOT believe AT ALL that she's innocent, but yknow "innocent until proven guilty" and the prosecution's job is supposedly to prove without a reasonable doubt that she's guilty, which they failed at) young, pretty, 20 something young woman, to death (and yes I can acknowledge that in the case of Casey Anthony, being an attractive woman is a privilege in these circumstances: had she been a man, she would have been convicted). She would have gotten life in prison if the prosecution had gone for that, but noooooo, of course they went around and chased for the death penalty even tho they had white shark Baez in front of them, and so little forensic evidence, and a murderer who felt no shame or remorse for what she did (not to mention, her stupid mother lying for her).
6 likesOf course the whole defense strategy was dirty asf ; it's baffling to imagine that any jury would believe anything Baez would pull out of his @ss every two days to bounce back up. It's horrid to imagine a daughter like Casey, accusing her father of molesting her when it's so clearly untrue and just a stupid strategy to make herself look like the victim. But yeah, there was nothing to convict her to death on that. Baez is dirty through and through, since the trial, it's been put out there that Casey was paying him with sexual services, and that he knew months prior where Caylee's body was because Casey had told him, but he didn't report it to the authorities to save Casey's sorry excuse for a human's @ss.
One thing I'll never understand tho, is how she was acquitted of all charges when there def was some child neglect in the fact that she hadn't reported her child being missing for 31 days. On that, we can claim that the jurors were stupid.
@Justin Bakeryou would have had a fair argument had you not started with an insult. no one here is stupid at all. even the jurors regretted their decisions and know they got played. the defense was weak. sure they don’t have to prove her innocence but what baez did was a big theatrical waste of time.
3 likesThe concept of a fair trial is at the core of any functioning justice system. The jury did a good job because they remained impartial. Prosecution and police on the other hand did not, as they rushed into the trial with too much confidence, assuming that they actually had the opportunity to do better.
1 like@Wizard exactly it’s his job to lessen a sentence or get rid of a sentence all together so u can lie but u would have to be good at it’s all lawyers do this not just this single man
1 like@Antonio Leo Your criminl system work alright. Work in stupid ways
0 likesBeyond any reasonable doubt, not suspicious.
0 likes@Wizard I can guarantee you this guy is really fucking expensive now. Might just well be the best defense lawyer in the US.
1 like@Lola DewClaw Agreed. He was a mind F master! She totally did it. Awful turn of events…
2 likesCasey definitely did it in my opinion, but don't blame the jury and especially not the lawyers. They all did their job. What's done is done
1 likeIf I was the jury I would’ve said GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY
3 likeshindsight is 20/20
0 likesI read somewhere long ago that a few of the jurors did not even have GED’s at the time. It’s like, where do we draw the line about who is gonna help with the outcome of the decisions? Saddest shit ever.
2 likesThe stupidity of the prosecutor trumps the jury's idiocy by far.
0 likesFor real they really fd this one up. No one lie that much if they are innocent. Use your head.
1 likethey were all democrats
0 likes@some guy Bullshit! The lawyer does not have to defend her, he could have just told her that he was uncomfortable taking the case on. I had a lawyer myself do that in my dui case (mind you nobody was harmed, and I have been clean of opiates for over 10 years). If you go to different defense attorneys you and the lawyer should both want to choose each other. And any client, or lawyer can decide to choose different options.
1 likeI read this comment 6 minutes into the video ; I'm pissed
0 likes@Justin Baker That is why it is so important to have a private attorney who would work for you and is good at what he is doing because 97% of the defendant would take the plea deals even many who are innocent got scared and took the plea; because the prosecutors' case most of the time have loopholes that bright attorney would be able to defend their clients. It is not the attorney's job to cast judgment on whether you are guilty or not the only job is to defend the defendant as best as he could and he did a great job.
0 likesI loved that bit when the alleged male coworker takes the stand and straight up shot down her lies. "Nah fam, we never worked together, and i've never lived out of this state" 😂
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He didn't even have kids. Her whole story is predicated on this dude having kids needing a nanny 👁👄👁
51 likes@here7ic lmao right. This chick is absolutely insane.
9 likesPlus he didn’t have any children 🤷♀️
4 likesThat defense opening statement is absolutely fucked
0 likesDetective: "how do you know this person"
2767 likesCasey: "we met in 2004 in the Himalayas, his social security number is 000-00-0000, he's lived in Orlando for the last 5 years, but lived in Chicago growing up, attended Northwest, has a degree in early childhood psychology, is a member of the greater Chicagoland Ragtime Preservation Society, collects rare stamps, and consults with the National Archives as a contract advisor every other month.
Detective: "Do you have his phone number?"
Casey: "No"
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13 likesunderstandable have a nice day
103 likesMore like: offhand.... No
34 likesYou forgot the multiple uh-huhs during each of the detective's questions
23 likesCasey: I don't have it on me but I wrote it down in my journal that survive the Hiroshima bombing of ww2 after being returned from Mars by alien life outside our planet. Alien life that I also met in the Himalayas who likes grilled chicken. But no, I don't have the number.
18 likesJury: "seems legit"
14 likes@jai singh rofl exactly what the jury said
5 likesThats crazy
0 likesCan you not!? 😭
1 like😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
1 likeI am very good at lying 🤥 but now I will never try to lie. It's very very bad thing to do and I don't know why but I am afraid
0 likesdamn why did you give away my social security number for?! i'm going to sue you
3 likes@Patriotic Cat seems about right
0 likes@Elstic LMFAOOO
0 likes😂😂😂😂
2 likesDetective: ....and how did you meet John Talmage?
2 likesCasey: He will leave a comment on a YouTube documentary type video of how I can make up the most in depth lies on someones backstory and how they are lifelong friends yet I dont have their numbers or any means to remain in contact with them.
Detective:.....tha....that's incredible, how in the hell did I never put those things together lik....wait.. it hasnt happened yet?
Casey: no, it happens when a man with dementia runs the country
Detective: shits on table
@Alpha Omega Well damn 😄
1 likegreat comment
0 likesOh boy.... John! This made me laugh sooooooo hard from "Himalayas" through "No" until forever.... thanks very much, mate! 😂😂😂
0 likesShe’s so scary. There are people out there exactly like her walking around just waiting to lose it.
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I know someone that has the exact same tendencies and personality as her. I pray to God that they never have kids.
13 likesThere's more narcissists out there than we could imagine man.. it's fucking scary. I've been taken advantage myself of one. Thought she loved me but she was using me.
11 likesmy ex used to lie just like this, its fucking scary. Made up stories, events, using people in a lie that don't exist or don't have anything to do with it. Detailed lies off the tongue. I swear I was so scared to find out she was lying.
8 likesShes still walking around!
6 likesMy aunt is like her, she's a drug addict and she had kids until her body was too diseased to hold anything in her uterus. I feel so horrible for my cousins... They have so much trauma from her that they'll have to recover from
3 likessome of them actually never lose it either, they just "function" as sociopaths for their entire life.
5 likesMy ex girflfriend was just the same sociopath and pathological liar just like her. They even have the same expression on their face, same methods and everything...
2 likesNot many. I wouldnt worry about it.
1 likeShe’s not scary, she’s a coward and child herself. The parents failed to get the lying in check along time ago and not saying it’s 100% the parents fault but everyone is at fault here in the family. Casey murdered that child, I’ve said it since day 1 of hearing this case and still believe it. People like that are only scary to people that are smaller than them and people they know will take the abuse.
5 likesJust joining the chorus here. I know TWO people just like her. Pathological liars and narcissists. They do their best to destroy every person they touch, and sometimes succeed.
2 likesDon't try to fix people like this. IMO you can't. Even if possible the cost to you would be WAY too high. Just disappear from their lives. Be uninteresting and give them nothing. It's the best way to protect yourself.
You ain't lyin. There are numbers of folks with similar psychopathologies, but have not experienced the type of setting or situation to trigger their psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies into action. It's a selfishness or blunt presentation of emotion that most of us are unable to understand.
0 likesIt's like the movie "unbreakable". He doesn't realise he has powers until he's put into all those situations. There are many scary psychopaths like Casey who haven't been tested yet and live among us.
1 likeThis was me at one point, but not to this crappy extent. It's a good thing I know now so I can grow up from these tendencies. I was a bit of a narcissist as well
0 likes“Xanny the nanny” was rumored to be a cruel joke about Xanax she gave caylee so she wouldn’t wake up on nights out.
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With how she acts, it really would not be a surprise if that was actually the reason...
373 likesAn explanation for why she so obviously named the nanny after a medication
At the time I was thinking, the fake nanny’s name rhymes with nanny?!
197 likesZanny is a street name for Xanax I think.
96 likesPretty sure she could have just left the kid at the parents house
29 likesNo bc she wants mom and dad to think shes a good mom. By bringing the kid to them so she can party makes her look bad I mean I agree with you but I bet that was her thinking
46 likes@John Smith right bc if she just couldn't be a mom anymore she could have given up custody to her parents
12 likes@John Smith because she wants her parents to think she has everything under control and doesn’t need their help. It’s obvious she wanted to be independent. Now why she decided to have a kid is my question
13 likes@John Smith not entirely true. Abortions were not at all difficult to obtain at the time of Casey’s pregnancy. I suspect, she went through with the pregnancy because she enjoyed the attention she got while pregnant. She had her daughter, the attention switched from her to the baby and she realized she didn’t like being a parent and felt that Caylee cramped her lifestyle.
30 likes@necrocoy she actually hid her pregnancy and denied it to anyone who could tell (listen to the rotten mango podcast)
7 likes@Kyle John thank you! 💖 appreciate the recommendation!
1 like@necrocoy possible. Her parents should have talked her into it more.
0 likes@vinny strobel it truly was all about how people saw her. The reason she lied about everything makes so much sense when you realize that. Piece of shit human. Someone semi-decent would’ve just given the baby to the grandparents.
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0 likesChild abuse and endangerment were never mentioned in that case. Intended murder versus accidental ? If accidental, we would have seen remorse or sadness in Cayse Anthony . None of it was there. She was afraid to spend the rest of her life in jail or to get the death penalty which was on the table. She did not care about the lost child or her parents. Typical psychopaths do not care about anyone ; they like their persona pleasures, at any cost......
3 likesLolololol
0 likesI can't think of any other reason why Zenaida's nickname would be Zanny lmao
0 likesThat might be how she died...being given Xanex so Casey could party.
1 like@vinny strobel yup, heard this young parent dosed their kid to party on weekends since she had no babysitter, but idk if it’s true or not. Only that my friend was out a this person who said so. Their circle is young party parents tho so I believe it
1 like@Hurstiisio This person has never been demonstrated to exist. Casey chose the name.
0 likes@Walsh 90 thats my point genius
1 likeEven worse than Crentist the dentist.
5 likes@John Smith She was milking her parents for money and they would’ve asked questions about where she was going, how long she would be gone, and then she’d have to see them after driving drunk and high etc.. She would have to be accountable and actually take the time to call, make arrangements for them to watch Caylee and then drop her off and pick her up. They’d be asking questions about her daughter’s care like, whether or when she’d been fed or what time she slept. Children need schedules and consistency. Casee wanted to duck responsibility. She didn’t want anyone questioning her.
0 likesDidn't they find any drugs in caylee's body.. i did not hear anything about the autopsy
0 likes@Tiara TheAwesome Because it made her important for a few months until the attention went away, thats my guess.
0 likesYes, i agree with you. I believe she was high when she killed her daughter
0 likesHer web of lies worked
0 likesyo wait where’d the get the evidence that her dad touched her
0 likesIt boggles my mind that the jury came back with a "not guilty" verdict. Justice was not served here. They let a baby killer WALK. But alas, she'll never be free in the public eye. So at least theres that.
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Shit is beyond fucked it’s like any one person could be like “oh yeah she definitely did it” but the system as a whole is just like “nah dude” and then she comes out about wanting to have another child. Like why?
35 likesIt’s because they charged her with first degree murder if they would have down graded the charges she would be in prison at the moment
45 likes@cmiller8492 There was an article recently, like within the past year, that was saying Casey was complaining cuz she couldnt get a real job and no one would hire her. She still has to fill out those apps with her name. I think once people see that and then her face, they know. I would think itd be hard to forget a baby killer.
42 likes@Lonnie Thomas Possibly. However, I think they were right in charging her with first degree. From all the evidence released and everything we have seen, definitely seems premeditated. The google search, the duct tape on Caylees mouth and nose, the clear lack of remorse after the fact, etc. I also found a video here on youtube that has Marcia Clark investigating as to why they decided on not guilty and I guess all the evidence wasn't presented in court?! And they had people on the stand that didnt know what they were doing or talking about and I guess that gave enough doubt for the jurors? Idk tho, I'd say that they were able to provide enough evidence and show Casey's constant lies to be able to provide a guilty verdict. Maybe if they had added both first and second degree charges they would've gotten it but idk if they are even able to do that. Upsetting nonetheless!
20 likes@zakky P ugh that's gross. She shouldn't be allowed to have children ever again. Wonder if shes still living with her attorney 🙄 smh
21 likes@Crazy Diamond 💎 Give it a few years more, a name change, move to a different location and without a doubt there wont be an issue for her at all.
8 likes@Crazy Diamond 💎 the issue is the prosecution thought they had a slam dunk and phoned in the evidence thats how she got off also so much time had passed i am sure any other evidence collected would have gotten zoomed by the defense
8 likes@Rampen she seems pretty narcissistic, at least to me. Would she even think about doing that? Edit: she hasnt done it yet and its been how long? Wouldn't she have done that by now?
7 likes@Jesse Hupp it's a damn shame. Innocent child lost her life and cant even at least get justice
15 likesDark Heart that’s not dumb a lot of adults now were kids when this happened.
1 like@Crazy Diamond 💎 Yea, about that. She did. IDK if she still does but she did for a while after the verdict. He also paid for plastique surgery afterwords. It was obvious they were bumping fuzzies during the trial too.
4 likesThere's also another way of handling her.
3 likesBeyond a reasonable doubt, she’s innocent!!!!
1 like@Dan Berkey i hope someone does. Maybe someone who lost a child against their will, will recognize her one day and have nothing left to lose.
3 likes@Crazy Diamond 💎 😳😲
0 likes@Crazy Diamond 💎 it's always about that. Prosecutors MUST consider what charge is convictable... Or you run the risk of walking.
3 likesIn this case, there was a very serious lack of actual physical evidence to prove she did it. And all the defense has to prove is a reasonable doubt, not that she didn't commit the crime. Just that it's possible that she did not.
The risk of imprisoning innocent people must be the number one precaution in justice. And with that ultimate importance..... we will have these occasions where people walk.
Crazy Diamond 💎 This reminds me of Karla Homolka hooking up with her attorney’s brother and having children with him. Casey and Karla two extremely messed up people. Casey has a huge skull and what appears to me male collarbones. Something tells me there’s far more to this story than we will ever know.
2 likesIdk why, but I thought she was found not guilty by reason of insanity
0 likesCrazy Diamond 💎 She’s a woman, of course she got away, women can’t do anything wrong silly
1 likeCrazy Diamond 💎 How is her “never being free in the public eye” of any significance? What do you mean by that?
0 likes@Crazy Diamond 💎 she's different again. Like the Lori Vallow case? She reminds me of a grown Casey.
1 likeSame manner. Same detachment from everyone else and lies, lies lies.
Lori was a bit better at it as she was not living at home and had to get by in the world on her bs.
It's sociopathy but they almost deserve another sub category. It's just strange to watch.
@zakky P Do you mean that you know something that the jury didn't know ? Then speak about it.
0 likesShe works as a fricken nanny now, WTF. That’s justice in America🤷🏽♀️
1 likeYo but its like he said only .3% of the cases are put in the lime light.. Im sure there are worse things but they also filter it. No one is going to tell you about a woman eating her baby for example 😂 because no one would notice.
1 likeJamie Brown where did you hear that??
0 likes@axollot lori vallow, oh dont get me started on that one and her brother. Both serial killers in my opinion. Omg those poor kids. Awful what happened, especially when charles begged the police to listen to him.
0 likes@Jamie Brown gtfo! Omg I hope that's not true! 😯
0 likes@Crazy Diamond 💎 Negative i dont think her look gives her away now. To much time has passed! BUT almost every employer googles the names of new workers. Thats giving her away.
0 likesCrazy Diamond 💎 yea. Case was so huge—the name Casey Anthony known would remind you of a murderer
1 like@bloochoo She ran her fathers name through the mud plus some. Yet at the end of the day, this is his daughter. His baby girl.
1 likeI wouldnt be surprised if he was involved getting that verdict. Hell, I wouldnt be surprised if he told her to say he molested her.
Hes a retired cop and he didnt flinch when the defense dropped the molestation angle. AT ALL! I would start flipping tables.
Too many angles to this.
I’m just shocked that she was able to get away with killing her child, lying constantly, and saying her daddy touched her. Even with all the evidence, presented people can still be persuaded by a snake of an attorney. It’s sad and unjust. If I were the parents, I wouldn’t have anything to do with her again. She wants to live a wild and free life, so be it. But you won’t be part of my life. RIP, little one...
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@William Caudill It’s his job dude😂
38 likes@William Caudill Its horrible, but its his job. People hate defense attorneys but its their job
31 likes@Kalmani Saying "it is his job" is no justification for him doing something bad. It's what he does for a living, but that doesn't make it good.
58 likes@Giga_Plays you can't blame the man for doing his job well, blame the jury. or better yet, blame casey.
21 likespeople are not free to think. You 're so wrong if you think that way. We believe we are free but we aren't.
0 likes@Giga_Plays he did exactly what he was supposed to do. Defense attorneys do not defend people. They defend people's rights to fair and equal trials, overstepping by prosecutors and investigators, and ensure that crimes are met with appropriate punishments. His job is to take whatever her side of the story is and make it appease legal and courtroom formalities and develop strategies to ensure her side is heard and understood. I'm sure he'd love to imagine everyone he defends is innocent, but that's simply not a part of his duty as a lawyer. I'm sure he'd love to lock this sick fuck up, but that's not his decision to make.
14 likesthat's how Jury trials are, they can go really sideways. The pressure of being in a room with yelling for hours at a time and then a need to find her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Our justice system is built to intentionally skew verdicts so that we release guilty people more than we jail innocent people. These days, with what's been done to the constitution, that isn't always the case but it was the original structure of the courts.
0 likeshe legally has to do what he did. its fucked up, but so is the majority of the legal system
1 like@Nick Schweiss and that's exactly what I mean, he is doing his job, but that just is not good at all.
0 likesThere was no evidence she killed her child. Only evidence she lied to police, which she was charged for, and that she most likely attempted to hide the body. But how we got from alive child to dead child, there was no proof of her involvement.
0 likes@Marko Bighead there was the pretty damning google searches, altho that was only discovered after her trial i think. that's definitely more than "no proof of her involvement"
3 likesI blame the jury for being stupid/complaisant enough to render a not guilty verdict. What's in the water down in Florida?
1 like@Giga_Plays You're like that one dude in Dexter who murders an innocent defense attourney. You can't be serious
0 likes@tastyham no. He was given the certain information, and if he did not perform his job correctly he would be fired, sued, and could be stripped of his ability to practice law. If Casey said to him "I killed my child" then he could have done something, but she never confessed to them. He took the information he was given and did his job with said information. I'm sure he regrets it but that's the problem with being an attorney. It doesnt matter who you defend, you have to defend them to the best of your ability and without personal judgement, or else you'll lose your job and tarnish your reputation.
0 likes@Marko Bighead She looked up on how to suffocate a child and wrote in her journal that she made the best decision in her life and was so happy when her child was missing. She made up people and never reported her child missing while living the life. There is plenty of evidence that she premeditated and was non-remorseful in her child's death. It's not uncommon for women to kill their children to date a man or live their lives how they want.
2 likes@DigitalResurrection All circumstantial. There is no evidence she killed her child. Where there is no proof, there is no guilty verdict. It's not what you know, or what happened, it's what you can prove in court.
0 likes@Cindy Tartt exactly
0 likes@DigitalResurrection No, it doesn't. There isn't even any consensus on how her child died, let alone who did it. And it obviously isn't damming if it didn't damn her in the end.
1 likeI'm not debating what she did or didn't get away with, or what actually happened or questioning her moral character. I'm stating the fact that there was no evidence that she killed her child and a jury of her peers agrees. If you were to openly declare what you are in a documented public forum, you could rightfully be sued for libel.
Did she lie to police? Yes, and she was charged.
Did she, at one point, possess her child's body in an attempt to hide it? Yes, forensic evidence proves it.
Does she care about her child? No, her behaviour demonstrates this.
How did her child die? We don't know.
Did she kill her child? There's no evidence that definitively proves that she did. And that's all that matters in a court room.
@Marko Bighead Not all the evidence was presented during the trial. And that was a failure. Duck tape does not equal pool drowning. She killed that little girl.
0 likesI wouldnt be able to be an attorney, id just be like "bruh fine this lady killed her kid im out"
1 like@Marko Bighead so if I do research on how to kill my daughter (that just happens to be exactly the way she died), have all the items I need to do it and that are later found with the body, there is clear evidence of me hiding her corpse, there is overwhelming evidence of me avoiding law enforcement or doing anything that could help solve the case, even misleading them and contradicting myself, I go partying for a month, having fun and caring less about her death than my friends, I was literally the only person with her when she died and I have a history of being a manipulative, compulsive liar to get away with living my life how I want. I can just get away by saying that she died in an accidental manner with no proof whatsoever and months after being interrogated multiple times?
0 likesI understand that there is no concrete evidence of the actual moment of the murder, but there is a monumental amount of evidence before and after "it" pointing towards her, when in opposition her claim of it being an accident has none and it just goes through some mental gymnastics to try and justify her nonchalant reaction by claiming that (idk if with any real evidence)she was molested as a kid. The sistem is fucked
@V As long as there is no direct evidence that you murdered her, correct. This is how the courts work.
0 likes@Giga_Plays What you're saying in this particular case really isnt making sense. What did he do that was "bad?" That just sounds really infantile, hes a lawyer that's what they do.. he didnt kill the kid and hide the remains, also we have a right to council so they have to defend their clients anyway. So is right to private or public council for EVERYBODY a "bad" thing also? What about the jury, their verdicts determined the outcome not just her council.
0 likes@tastyham He should go to jail huh? Thank christ people like you aren't in any position to imprison anybody on your whim. Hes just a silver tongued lawyer, just because you don't like the outcome isnt a valid reason to imprison people genius. What about the damn jury? It's their verdicts that determine the actual outcome, it's not up to the lawyers entirely lol.. do any of you know how this works?
0 likes@Giga_Plays it isnt but its still his job and he has a duty to fulfill it
0 likesWhich evidence? Thats the point
0 likes@iWoofz Me too! We'd be the worst attorneys ever lol. Well at least we'd still be decent human beings ^^
1 like@Marko Bighead Also, I understand she was not guilty in the court of law. I also understand her attorney did his job and saved her ass. She is free, which I understand, but I think she does not deserve freedom. Her trial was not based on evidence because if it was she would be guilty. The jury messed up in this case.
0 likes@Fabiana Moura Sometimes I am this way and could never see myself trying to defend a criminal. But also, I read about cases like these I always find myself playing devils advocate, I don’t know why, I think what they did or what they are accused of doing is disgusting but I still ponder the idea of defending them or finding innocence in them.🤷♀️😑 let me go talk to a psychiatrist real quick.
0 likes@Amy Louise Simpson i agree
0 likesWas she drug addicted most young people her age in Florida are you know
1 likeIf she "drowned", how come there was duct tape on her mouth. How effin stupid was this jury? How did they ever live with themselves afterwards?
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And apparently her search for foolproof suffocation was just a coincidence.
130 likesThat's what's got me.
13 likesif she drowned why does she still, to this day, maintain she 'has no idea' what happened to caylee? disgusting miscarriage of justice
64 likesCasey Anthony is currently (2020) living with the investigator who worked her case.....they live in south Florida.
105 likesTalk about a guilty woman and the corrupt man that helped her get off.
@Tyler Durden Defense investigator. Just want to make that clear, since I just did a search wondering how one of the policemen investigating her would ever live with this monster.
57 likesAnd now she helps him get off.
31 likes@Deformed Conscience lmaooooo, she helped her whole team get off. Gotta love Merica.
5 likes@Tyler Durden does she, or is he another one of her imaginary characters?
2 likes@Tyler Durden it was a defense PI. Someone who got her off the charges. Where do the live? Not to far from where Epstein stayed. They're really lenient on child abusers over there.
11 likesAnd why no water in lungs, I'm so mad with Justice system it stinks and blaming her father when they stuck by her, RIP caycee in the arms of Jesus,suffer the little ones to come unto him xx blessed child xx
9 likesMoney talks. Loudly
3 likesProbably pretty well cuz they were def paid off, no way that many ppl could actually b that stupid.
4 likesI remember following the case when it was on TV.. there was a smiley face sticker on caylees lips or something like that under the duct tape. Also.. That's the way the law works.. As a juror you have to believe beyond a reasonable doubt she murdered her daughter.. There was evidence she was feeding her daughter xanex so she would pass out and Casey would go out and party. She may have died from an overdose. Either way.. The jury has to follow the letter of the law..
2 likes@Auxik then why didn't they find her guilty of child abuse? Whether she drowned in a pool, overdosed on Xanax, or was suffocated by the duct tape, the mother clearly abused her and hid what happened to her.
12 likesThe suffocation was merely an example, what "could have happened". The true facts regarding the death are not known. It's likely that during the case, the defense mentioned many other possible deaths that "could have" occured, such as choking on food or perhaps a piece of plastic.
3 likescroco pix The prosecution did not even submit that into evidence purposely because it didn’t fit into the timeline of which they were presenting how n when she did it, so it would back fired on them to use that. As well as they could not prove that she did the search on the computer, it was the families computer that her mom n dad used also, so again something that would have only been speculation.
6 likesThe prosecutions IT expert didn’t look at both search engines and missed that search on her computer.
2 likesThreewulphmoon The whole defense strategy with drowning was to put it off on the father doing it accidentally on his watch then with the family always had their own secrets, so by duct tape and dumping of her body covered for George Casey’s father supposedly being responsible for her death. It basically was the defenses way to clear Casey of having doing it and her parents making her keep secrets supposedly which is why they claimed her ( Casey ) father molested her when she was young to try to create any kind of doubt and could have said the father did those searches on the computer also if the prosecution submitted that into evidence which they did not use anyways.
1 likeThose jury are just as bad as this mother.
5 likesThe problem with the case being as widely publicized as it was is that it was already clear to the vast majority of Americans what had happened, and people had already drawn the conclusion that she was guilty. Those that had drawn these conclusions already will have been removed from consideration as a juror; the remaining jurors aren't likely to be convinced of her guilt even with all of the facts being reported.
4 likesI've been on a jury and I understand what you're saying. I watched a case and thought it was a slam dunk by the time deliberation came. Low and behold 3 jurors didn't see it the same way as the rest of us. I had to wonder if they were asleep or something. Needless to say it made things tense in that room. I think people watch too much CSI and I learned it is very difficult to convince a majority of people of anything ( that and the average person really isn't all that sharp).
8 likes@Kim Bryan so it's okay to lie? isn't that perjury? 'she did die that day, she drowned in the family pool' something that doesn't jive with a hysterical grandmother calling 911 because her daughter 'finally admitted' the girl was 'missing'
3 likes@croco pix
6 likesThe horrible smell on her car and her diary words saying that she was sure she did "the right thing", don't forget those, they are really important too.
Murica
1 likeMost of the time it's the judge fault, who tell to the jury to don't consider. This or that answer caused of this or that reason. You know when there's an objection.
0 likesBecause you don´t have to be smart to be a yury, able to breathe is enough.
3 likesCasey did not exhibit any behaviour that a reasonable person would under those circumstances both real and made up.
1 likeTheXenoxen l
0 likes@RANDY WASSUM it takes serious work to make the death of a 3 year old political
2 likesProbably because it wasn't any of their problem.
1 like@RANDY WASSUM hey man, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, but you need to have a break from the internet. Just do a week or two and see how you feel. It's probably true for me as well. This all exists beyond us, yet it demands so much of our time.
0 likesOh wait she was found not guilty? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL I did WAYYYYYYYYYYYY more time for possession of a FLOWER >_<
0 likesi wanna give christina a huge hug, she deserves better people to be around
2005 likes"if anything hapens to caylee, i'll die"
"youre a HUGE waste" what a horrible fucking friend
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I know, right?! That broke my heart. Her best friend loved that little girl so much and yet the child's MOTHER responds with irritation and impatience??? All she cared about was talking to her boyfriend.... fucking incredible how cold she is.
231 likesThat's not called a friend lol.
3 likes@Dexter 🙄🤨
0 likesYes, reminds me of what I would say to my best friend or she would say to me. My best friend of 16 years, her children are my babies, too, And vice/versus with my son to my best friend. I felt awful the way Casey spoke to her best friend. She didn’t cry once, and it crushed her best friend knowing her niece was missing. Yes, niece. Because that is family.
5 likes@Synaesthesia I don’t know how she was able to fool the jury...
2 likesIf it was a jury trial in some states that can be tricky as I read that if a defendant ask for a "jury trial" as opposed to "a trial by a jury of his/ her peers" that at the end of the trial the judge actually makes the final decision? Our Justice system is corrupt for a reason and in the end it's a business and businesses are out to make money! Welcome to the United States Corporation of America LLC. The District of Columbia,London England + The Vatican ultimately control everything in this world.
0 likesIt's very telling that caseys mother and best friend immediately suspected she killed the baby.
1 likethe fact that they say she accidentally drowned, but was found with duct tape around her mouth and NONE of the jury questioned it???
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Yeah, that's the point I was thinking about!!
41 likesAutopsy found water in the body? I think not...jury would have questioned that right?
54 likes@Andrew Robson surely the water was from the swamp no?
17 likesThat's what I thought. Wtf
3 likesExactly...how does a little girl who supposedly drowned in a pool wind up in a laundry bag, wrapped in a blanket with duct tape over her nose and mouth at the bottom of a swamp? please explain this to me.....Anyone?????? How is this a closed case? WTF!??
142 likesDidn’t it say skeletal remains? Also he said they don’t know how she died that wasn’t the question, it was if the mother killed her.
65 likesHow the hell did she get away with it when she searched suffocation on the internet just before! 😡
Maybe the detectives placed the tape jut like they framed OJ lol
2 likesThis jury was paid off
27 likesHe also contradicts himself by saying the only question unanswered was how Caylee died at the end of the case even though he says that she drowned lol.
29 likes@Al It seems a little odd I agree and most importantly, extremely relevant to the case in regards to the intention.. If she did it, it most assuredly shows a deliberate criminal intent and if someone else did then who are 'they' and why aren't they being implicated in this? It's just fkn weird and incredibly suspect. There are sooo many cases at the moment that just don't add up where people are just literally getting away with murder and a variety of other serious offences and it really doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy inside if you know what I mean? Another great example of court cases that don't add up is this whole Johnny Depp incident of supposed abuse....What the hell is going on with the justice systems of the world at the moment?
4 likesMy thoughts exactly
1 likeShe got away with murder...As a sociopath, egoist and compulsive liar, she got exactly what she wanted- the feeling of invincibility.
6 likes@Single Sucks but...not just limited o 'bad' police work. This whole case is pretty poor all round if you ask me. Was the 'fact' that the girl's body was discovered at the bottom of a swamp in the state it was found not considered evidence? Makes no goddamn sense..
4 likesthey body was decomposed so they couldnt have found water in an autopsy (i think, im not an expert) and she got away with the tape because it followed the story casey made (that the nany kidnapped her daughter and killed her, not the mother) and she was set free because it was an accident and she made all that lies to so people wouldn't suspect her
2 likesin my pinion and i think everyone's opinion the justice's dicision was way wrong and she must have been in prison (but objectively her lawyer is really good at his job)
reasonable doubt no evidence she did it it's all points to her but what puts her there ?? cant convict on speculation I think she guilty af but watched trial prosecution didnt prove it
2 likesand the google searches
1 like@vas ok but literally they had that guy as a witness saying the nanny never existed and he never introduce Casey to anyone, how did they still believe that when they've already gone over how every person she mentioned was either fictional, or have been out the picture for years?
5 likes@A person well she lied and made up all these stories and we can all agree that she is a pathological liar
1 likeBut they didn't have enough evidence (for example a fingerprint), all they had were speculations and of course she was the main suspect. That itself can not put a person in jail.
@A person they knew nanny didn't exist but the tape was part of her story (that the nanny killed the kid)
0 likesWhen they said that it was an accident and the baby drowned as part of the new story she put tape over her daughter's mouth to follow the previous story
Sorry i don't know if what im typing is making sense, i hope u get what im saying
ALSO her lawyer was really good ( it looked like an episode of how to get away with merder) and the police's lawyer didn't insist on some topics, he could have done a better job
not the job of the jury to ask question it, just provide a plea and reach a conclusion. the lawyer's are suppose to question it.
2 likesthey didnt question dumping the body after she supposedly drowned? not 1 brain cell combined on that jury.
3 likesExactly. The defence case is absolute b/s.
1 likeThe job of the jury is to make a verdict based on the defense and how well they prove reasonable doubt right? Correct me if I’m wrong please.... but in the jury’s mind there was reasonable doubt which resulted in a non guilty verdict.
1 likeThe jury didn't acquit her based on believing her alternate explanation of how Caylee died. They acquitted her because they didn't believe the state presented enough physical evidence to link her to Caylee's death.
3 likes@Kristyn Walko okay I see thank you!
0 likesThe juries are sociopath too
0 likesShe literally google “foolproof suffocation”, and not that long after her daughter was found dead but SHES NOT GUILTY??
1 likeSo many questionable things I feel im missing!!! THE INTERNET SEARCHES?!?!?! WHAT!?!?!
0 likesAnd her search history! "Suffocation and foolproof suffocation." I swear those jurors are stupid. I hate the justice system, whoever wins is based on who can write a better fucking speech
1 likegood old feminism, 'believeher'. the western justice systems all run by feminists principles when a woman is accused, punishing women murderers and child rapists is somehow wrong..
1 likereject feminism if you'd like to see sociopaths like this be punished.
Richard Allen True, because even if her daughter did accidentally drown (which I do not believe) how could she be ok with her child being left in a swamp etc.
0 likesThe jury said the duct tape wasn't over the mouth and nose. The prosecution stretched a lot of things to make them fit the case, which made it very easy for the defense to cast doubt. Somehow no one questioned how 12 jurors plus at least 2 alternates (who gave interviews) all said the duct tape wasn't over the mouth and nose. We're all sitting here insisting it was there despite the fact that they've seen the photos and we haven't. Chances are they're telling the truth and the prosecution was reaching.
0 likesIf you watch the complete opening argument of the defense, it makes sense. This duct tape was a special kind of duct tape with a logo on it. The father has reported a fuel can missing a day or two after the child died. Turned out this can had the exact same kind of duct tape on it. Then later, as Casey was already in jail, his father was spreading these flies about the missing girl and gave an interview to two news stations. They spot the exact same duct tape on a donation jar behind him. So the defense pretty much convinced the jury that if anyone, it was the father who put duct tape on the child's face.
0 likes@András Ziegenham I suspect it has more to do with his weird behavior regarding the duct tape on the stand than all of that. I mean, we know that probably everyone in the family had access to the duct tape. But then he gets on the stand and as soon as Baez started questioning, he started hemming and hawing about putting duct tape on the cans (even though he just testified about doing so for the prosecution), tried to pretend like he couldn't understand any of the questions, claimed the duct tape was a different piece of duct tape than he put on, claimed he didn't touch the cans at all during that time frame and has no idea how the duct tape got on there, claimed he didn't mow the lawn for weeks on end for no reason, claimed there were two other gas cans (that don't exist) so he could explain why he didn't touch the gas cans.
1 likeThen when they questioned the family on burial practices, both cindy and Lee had vivid memories of how they buried their pets and it was strikingly similar to how Caylee's remains were wrapped. Everyone but George seems to remember George burying all the pets using this same ritual. George has zero memory of burying a single pet or using tape on the pets remains. It was super weird. Everyone gave the jurors crap for thinking he could be involved, but he gave them more than enough to come to that conclusion.
#Justice4Caylee
0 likes@Shimmer #Brains4Shimmer
0 likes@András Ziegenham Casey Anthony sacrificed her daughter. Casey knew what she did. She even had her parents help her and involve in it. It's wrong.
0 likes@András Ziegenham #admitsheisguilty
0 likes@Shimmer Alright, I guess you are a parrot at this point.
0 likes@András Ziegenham If that's your rebuttal then you're weak.
0 likes@Shimmer You've completely ignored everything I've said and responded with a dumb hashtag. Then responded to my hashtag by saying the exact same thing that I was originally replying to. Yeah. I'm weak.
0 likes@András Ziegenham Say what you want. I do have a brain. Also have enough sense to know that Casey Anthony sacrificed her daughter. She clearly killed her and lied about it.
0 likes@Shimmer Yes, and you don't have to argue about it just, state it and it magically becomes a fact. I know. Have a nice life.
0 likesThe way she can just make up lies is absolutely terrifying.
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All it takes is one socially manipulative parent and boom, kids a master manipulator by 16
43 likesShe's so good at it!!!
10 likesIt is more scary that people believe her even when police says she lied. No justice for a 3 year old that is just sick.
28 likesThe way the detectives are interviewing her, I don’t know how she remained so calm I would be freaking out. If she didn’t want her daughter she should gave her to her parents. Instead of killing her.
20 likes@Loma patel to me it is obvious she is having a blast. She is living her one real life crime tv show and is so confident that she has everything under control. So sad that people are blinded by her and asks no questions. Perhaps if she were less pretty, they would have thought otherwise. Good looking people get away with more shit, it is actually really disturbing
21 likes@Matt Falls she isn't, you can tell that she is lying because shit doesn't add up, nobody in their right mind would act like she did. she is a pathological liar that doesn't know when to stop. her story seems like she didn't even try and that she makes up things as she talks
6 likesWhen the facade eats the house and nothing remains.. but remains
1 like@Ladie Birda If she wasnt good looking, he would be in jail 100%
3 likesKnowing them in person is even more horrifying and disgusting.
0 likes@DarthBane far younger, imho
0 likes@Loma patel good question, she literally does not have normal emotions, she is incapable of the type of healthy reaction that you describe.
5 likesand stick to them too, that's baffling
0 likesShe would’ve made a great politician
1 likeLoma patel That’s a sociopath for you.
1 likeEven more terrifying is that a jury can get convinced to believe these obvious lies.
0 likesLucky for her she found a lawyer with the same skill she has in lying.
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But she had a good lawyer
20 likes@Caydo I think you meant liar.
71 likesIf she wasn’t in jail she could’ve won as a democrat with all the bs she spews
17 likesImagine being that lawyer. What a psychopath.
23 likes@Tobias Fünke It's his job how else do you expect him to get.clients if he decided to lose on purpose?
20 likes@Tobias Fünke lawyers are supposed to be like that
2 likes@Tobias Fünke that’s his job, if he didn’t try his best to defend her then she wouldn’t have been given a fair trial and if she was found guilty she’d probably be released cuz the trial would be worthless. If anything you should blame the Jury who found her “not guilty”.
11 likes@Sabeel Rehman unfortunately even blaming them is wrong if they truly thought it wasn't "beyond a reasonable doubt"... if there is any slim chance that someone MAY be innocent, even SLIM, 1 percent, you are supposed to find them not guilty. people not following that puts innocent people in jail.
4 likes@R B given her previous actions it seems very much like a lie
5 likesLife is short and everything has an end. On the day of judgment, she will see herself on tape doing her crime with all evidence and will surely receive the punishment that she deserves along with her lying lawyer. Allah sees and hears everything, He is Just in His ruling.
2 likesI mean, that's his Job and he is very, very good at his job. I think a huge part of the reason she got off was because the jury did not think whatever evidence they had was good enough. I read somewhere that part of this had to do with the CSI shows that were so popular around this time. They expected to have cold hard evidence that could not be argued but most of the time, that's just on TV and the movies. That coupled with this very brilliant charming lawyer made her a free woman.
1 like@CutsiePie_3890 I hope so it was very upsetting allegations she made
0 likes@Mouayad19 ok...
0 likesHer lawyer is really good
0 likes@Tobias Fünke not a psychopath but this is his job im not with the murder or anything but people search for the best lawyers with exorbitant money to defend them and not to stand against them Do not blame the lawyer but the murderer
0 likesIt is funny, because he was the lawyer that helped Hernandez, the futebol player that killed more than one person. He is a great lawyer, but Hernandez was guilty as well, so I don’t respect Baez at all.
3 likesShe wasn't that skilled at lying she got caught in almost all her lies
1 likeYou must be new: all lawyers are supposed to be like that. That’s why I would never marry one.
1 like@Marcus Handley yeah, and the defense detective too.
1 like@Tobias Fünke she was probably sleeping with her lawyer.
0 likes@el_ rata nope, a lawyer is not suppose to lie on behalf of his clients, that's very wrong and he will pay one day.
0 likes@Evelyn Noname If you're actually guilty. To you it makes sense to hire someone that doesn't lie?
0 likes@Villanous Spyder that wasn‘t the point. The point was that we don‘t need to defend the lawyer for „doing his job“ if he‘s lying and helping a murderer roam free
1 like@Evelyn Noname So we should attack him for doing his job?
0 likes@Villanous Spyder he was not doing his job
1 like@Evelyn Noname So he didn't show up, and win his clients case?
0 likesLawyers are supposed to be on their clients side even when they know that person is guilty. Otherwise they would be fired.
2 likesI've never seen so many comments on a video! 120K, impressive! 👏🏻🔥💯
0 likesI have yet to see a person who’s like “yeah that Casey Anthony girl wasn’t guilty” other than the jury of course
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there’s an article on why they voted that way, and after reading it I do understand. that doesn’t change that this was mishandled and just an all around shit case
71 likes@Bree Rowe any link or elaboration? Just curious what swayed them to vote as such if the evidence is so overwhelming
7 likes@Bree Rowe ah, it's all too tragic, sometimes there really is no justice, I hope it weighs on her her whole life but I'm sure she isn't the type to care about anything but herself anyway. Thanks for the links
84 likes@Bree Rowe Perfect example from you link on the jury's reasoning, albeit should have been manslaughter at the very least, to compare with the clear overcharges and unjust verdict on Derek Chauvin due to the massive sensationalism from media misinformation.
18 likes@Truth Be Told Derek deserves the chair. I don't believe in capital punishment but if the cap fits then use it. He was literally, factually and undeniably recorded killing that man.
74 likesDisgraceful and he got off light.
@Bree Rowe yeah all of it was circumstantial evidence, studies show that juries like easy answers, cold hard DNA evidence for example.
7 likesThe jury said the prosecution did not meet the standard to find her guilty, that is vastly different than not believing her to be guilty.
21 likes@Jamie Conlon apparently she's completely moved on and is out dating around, partying, etc. I think it's safe to say she does not have a conscience at all
22 likes@Marc Taylor lmao nope
4 likes@No Smoke I'm just wondering who is partying with her?
5 likesDo you understand nothing about how the criminal justice system works? Of course everyone on that jury thought she was guilty. But you dont convict someone based on your feelings. Its the burden of the state to prove their case to the exclusion of any other plausible explanations. They failed to do that. If I was on that jury I would have ruled the same way I'm sure and I would have been pissed at the failure of the state in forcing me to do that.
10 likes@xcvsdxvsx well people are shot down easily based on feelings so I guess the justice system needs to keep up.
0 likes@Truth Be Told bullshit. if you watched the trial u saw the undeniable amount of evidence. he was guilty
5 likes@juul cat you do realize that that was a toxicology report and doesn't even mention a cause of death? there is no autopsy that says it was an overdose..... infact they all say otherwise.. watch the damn trial where FACTS were presented. derek killed floyd
8 likes@vyoufinder I'm assuming random people. Not sure how many people want to be her friend after all this
1 like@juul cat "Covid, drugs and heart problems killed everyone else but this guy?" Uhh, no? Who said that? The fact it increases your chances of dying doesn't mean you always die when given the circumstances... knowing how common they are, I'm sure there's plenty of people with heart problems who have passed COVID-19 while on drugs that are still alive and kicking. Besides, even assuming anything you said was true, it doesn't in the slightest way justify putting his leg on his neck, let alone keeping it there when clearly told by an unarmed person who was only arrested because of a supposedly fake $20 bill that they couldn't breathe.
9 likes@Marc Taylor I honestly dont know how anyone can come to that conclusion. If you watched the entire 25+ mins of the stop, which I'm absolutely positive you did not, Floyd was complaining about not being able to breath while handcuffed in the back of the squad car with not a soul touching him. He was acting that way because he was currently overdosing on the narcotics he ingested to dispose of when he got stopped. There was nothing overly aggressive about the cops actions, zero animosity. Literally routine procedures that were taught to him by his superiors. Procedures that are routine all across the nation. You literally cant claim he murdered him in the first degree, that is absurd. Manslaughter is the only feasible charge that could have been placed and I dont believe he is guilty of that. They cops asked if he ingested anything and Floyd lied, had he been honest they would have called for an ambulance like they do 99.9% of the time.
5 likes@juul cat Blantantly ignoring evidence, like the video clearly showing him putting his leg on his neck?
4 likes@Fuckindustry Every shred of "evidence" the prosecutor presented had reasonable doubt. What fucking trial did you watch?
2 likes@xcvsdxvsx “forcing you to do that” what even is the point of a Jury in that case?
0 likes@Truth Be Told tell me how 2 autopsies and several medical professionals had “reasonable doubt”
1 like@No Smoke she called the police on a girl who had dated her boyfriend this year. Probably more totally made up bullshit
0 likes@juul cat all of this was addressed in the trial. If you actually cared to know if he was killrd or not you would’ve watched it. But no you prefer to live in a world of fantasy and racism
4 likesGeorgefloyd was killed and that is a proven fact. Deal with it
@Truth Be Told once again this is all completely false. Watch the trial where everything you just said was disproved
3 likesAlso if floyd complained of breathing problems why the hell would you put your knee on his neck for 9 minutes? You aren’t helping your cop friend
@juul cat not true. Watch the trial
1 like@Truth Be Told you didn’t watch the trial and that’s clear because you’re bringing up things that were disproved in court... scared to admit a black man was murdered just like you’re afraid to admit trump lost fair and square.
1 like@Clank4Prez The jury assesses whether or not the prosecution had proved their case beyond reasonable doubt. They really didnt do that here. How can you be sure she murdered the child instead of simply negligently allowing her to drown in a pool? How can we know for SURE that her story is not true? The prosecution clearly didnt prove that. I would have been "forced" in a sense to rule the same way those jurors did for the same reasons.
0 likes*THIS IS ON OJ'S LEVEL OF MISJUSTICE
0 likesWait…Juliette Lewis…that’s an actress
0 likesWhen my son was 3 months old I took him with me to a self-washing carwash. He fell asleep on the way there. As I was washing my car I got around to the side he was sleeping on and my heart stopped, the most nightmarish fear overwhelmed me as it appeared my son was not in his car seat. In that one second it took me to drop the power washer and open the car door I felt my heart break and world fall apart, every parent's worst nightmare was about to happen to me.
475 likesAlas it was all just a mirage created by the water and lighting. My son was sleeping peacefully dreaming baby dreams. I have never been that relieved about anything.
If there were any parents in that jury that they should truly be ashamed. For anyone who has ever had children; loved, nurtured and loved their kid would know Casey is not. And is indeed a just callous monster.
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I think this would be true for any bond between two people or even an animal. I once had a similar experience with my beloved cat that I thought had disappeared. It's inconceivable what that jury did. People have gotten more jail time for less...
24 likes@Ug Ne Extremely inappropriate to compare an animal to a human being who is your own flesh and blood, regardless of your emotional attachment to it.
14 likesFeels Man woop woop look out y’all it’s the inappropriate police 👮
35 likesTwo Cents I think it’s reasonable to call bullshit on what she said 🤷♂️. How can someone legitimately say that missing a cat or dog is a direct comparison to the pure dread of a parent missing a child? There’s only one thing that’s stuck with me and given me problems from work, and that’s the guttural moan of a parent when it’s confirmed a child is dead. There is NO comparison to that.
10 likes@Feels Man The point was just that anyone with any kind of bond with another living creature would know the bitch killed her child. Not really inappropriate tbh
29 likes@Hi Hello Doesn't matter. "Dog moms", "cat moms", "plant moms" or whatever other ridiculous shit of this nature there is, will never be comparable to actual parents tending to their own children.
7 likes@Feels Man I didn't say it does. I'm just saying that wasn't the point of their comment.
6 likesI have no kids but that happens with my cell phone every day. Not the same is it lol.
3 likes@Feels Man to consider a parental bond somehow superior to any other bond is illogical. It creates an illusion that parents have a superior emotional capability than a person who doesn't have children. People can form deep attachments to people who are not related to them by blood, hence falling in love with someone or finding a lifelong friend. You do not have the right to decide the depth of one's attachment to something or someone and you have no right to judge others from your subjective point of view. The people here talking condescendingly about "dog/cat moms" don't understand that there are people who can't have or don't want to have children, who dedicate their lives to caring for animals and see them more than just an inferior life form, and it doesn't make them any less capable of understanding loss or pain or love. The people who are condescending and mocking here are arrogant and egocentric and the only thing it shows is how emotionally lacking they are in they ability to understand other people, hence, I couldn't care less of what you think matters and what doesn't. The fact that my comment triggers you into such outrage is enough of an indicator that your are behind in your emotional development that's appropriate for an adult. Talk to me when you grow up.
32 likes@Ugne...❤
4 likes@Ug Ne A human being, regardless of whether one has a genetic relation to the said being, is not the same as an animal. Period.
1 likeYep. It's bizarre that she's outright incredulous that everybody suspected her from the beginning. My heart stops any time I suspect something could have happened to my child, and that's a near universal experience for any parent. It's insane that she thought her justifications were believable, and even more insane that defense got her off.
5 likes@Ug Ne your comment was not extremely inappropriate. You were relating. I have children and beloved fur babies. This women had and has no empathy. A sociopath or whatever they tag them with today
5 likesUgne just owned that guy haha. Well said girl 🙌✊👌
4 likes@Ug Ne While I agree about your takedown of condescending douches making light over the depth of emotion one feels towards ones pet I still have to disagree wholeheartedly about the idea that a person could love a pet as much as a parent loves their child. My girlfriend was heartbroken when her dog needed to be put to sleep. Her pain was hard to even witness. If we ever had to bury our son I don't think she could even live anymore. I know I wouldn't want to. The love a parent has for a child outstrips the love anyone can have for anything because we've evolved that way.
1 like@GetTheFO In my opinion, she was just saying that a person missing a pet would show more concern than Caycee did. She was relating it to her own experiences. She was not saying a person missing a pet experiences the exact same grief. Only that Caycee wasn't even showing the concern of a person missing a pet much less a child.
3 likesDoes anyone know who runs this channel or their qualifications? I'm just curious.
100%. My child, when in kindergarten, forgot to get off the bus one day which stopped at the end of our driveway. When she didn’t get off the bus I went into complete panic, calling everyone I could think of starting with the school first. The bus driver dropped her off on the way back by our home a few moments later but for that 15 or 20 moments were the worst moments of my life to date. Casey Anthony is a freakin monster, plain and simple.
4 likesEven the feeling of panic and fright when your kid is playing outside and you realise you can't hear them anymore so you call them and they don't answer straight away
1 like@Ug Ne Damn! Laying down an existential smackdown over here, flying in from the top ropes. Beautifully said and you are not wrong in the absolute least. I tried thinking of something to add but there's nothing, you hit the nail on the head. I'm also speaking as a parent. It's asinine to tell someone their feelings are invalid, especially just based on personal anecdotes. Keep on handing out that knowledge!
1 like@Ug Ne Damnnn, you didn't have to do him like that ugne.
1 likeTwo Cents i think she was making the point that if anyone in the court owned a living thing then this should’ve freaked them out because thinking of the death of your pet is scary so if there were parents of children they should be even more concerned
0 likesAgreed
0 likesYes! This!! My daughter (16 months old) was walking with me to our car, and she ended up on the other side of the car. I couldn’t see her for maybe 3 seconds and my heart was beating through my chest! NO PARENT would react this way. SAD!!!
1 like@Ug Ne Do you have kids, because I have animals, and I'm telling you it's not the same. Trust me. Nothing comes before your children!
0 likesM lo lo o lo l
0 likes@Oscar Patino I don't hate anyone or anything buddy. I just hate beyond belief how people think having pets is the same as raising children nowadays.
1 like@Feels Man A human being is, by definition, an animal. Maybe the person doesn't have children, and was simply attempting to relate in what way they could. You shit out a kid, that's great. But you aren't special. Don't throw a tantrum.
1 like@Ug Ne That's ridiculous. just because someone doesn't have children doesn't imply they can't have strong bonds. But it makes sense evolutionary to have the strongest bond between a parent and a child of the same species sharing DNA as its function is to guarantee the child's development and continued survival. Of course it's superior to any other bond. Why would you throw a fit over something so basic like that?
0 likes@Alyssa Opatken so imagine 31 days.
0 likes@Two Cents Antifa? XDD You're arguing against the bond between parents and their children in favor of the bond between a pet and its human friend / master. That seems more like something Antifa would do as they hate humanity, life and family in general, especially kids.
0 likeshow this jury really heard all of this and decided she didn’t do it is beyond me. it blows my mind. RIP Caylee.
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Cognitive dissonance, most likely-- they couldn't comprehend the fact that a mother could do something so callous and heartless to her own child. That's historically why female murderers were able to walk-- due to sheer cognitive dissonance
68 likesI really think someone paid them off
36 likesI agree with the jury. There just was no evidence she actually killed the baby. It seems likely, but not beyond a reasonable doubt. No actual evidence. Her demeanor, behavior, deceit, all would indicate she's guilty. But again, no concrete evidence
19 likes@Alykat wrong, read what rhey said. Most actually believed she killed her daughter. But the prosecution didn't provide enough evidence. It isn't what you know, it's what you can prove. The defense had a better case. It happens in law.
24 likesIt's mind-blowing that America uses a medival jury system in the first place. This is exactly what happens when you use a system like that.
34 likes@marinusch what would be the alternative to that?
6 likes@Anya Szafran lol ....how about to start handling law by professionals and immediately stop to have civilians decide about guilt!? - What would be the alternative? Are you seriously asking this? It would be how almost any other country handles the law. By judges, People who studied law for usually more than 6 years, who got years of experience in court and know about the cheap misleading tactics of attorneys.
11 likes@moelle The jury is meant to keep the Judge in check
9 likes@moelle I was just genuinely wondering? I don't know why it seemed to upset you that I was just asking a question on a subject because I am not too knowledgable on it.
7 likes@Anya Szafran I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you in any way. It was kinda late while I was writing that comment. Nevertheless, its still a bit mind-boggling to me that you dont seem to be able to imagine any other way of a court-proceeding but the one with a jury involved. - To be fair, both options probably have its flaws. If you have a jury, its not unlikely to end up with a messed up result. Just like on this case, not being found guilty by the jury while it was so obvious that she killed her poor daughter. On the other side, a judge can have a twisted opinion about a certain case and end up speaking a messed up verdict. Personally, its frightening to even think about having a bunch of civilians who are allowed to deciide about your fate/life. If its that easy, then why would anyone still study law for multiple years? lol
2 likes@chain 3519 i get the idea of the jury, yet I dont trust a bunch of civilians that can decide about other people's fate/life. Speaking law isnt meant to be done by most likely emotional unprepared people.
3 likes@moelle isn’t the concept of a jury have to do with democracy or the constitution? I’m not American so I have zero clue if this is correct at all (apologies in advance). The “right to a free and honest trial” and “ to be judged by peers/community” or something a long that line. I think it would be hard to change the jury system if it’s that deep rooted is what Im trying to get at. The whole system is super flawed honestly, but updating seems like a more complicated task..
1 like@marinusch I would never understand this jury thing
0 likesThey didn't decide that she didn't do it they gave the verdict "not guilty". The prosecution failed to prove that she did it, its as simple as that. I personally think that she did, but if i was on the jury I would have said not guilty. They had no evidence, they could not convict.
2 likes@ITB I think you missed the entire point of my comment. The point was you can’t lose the gamble. This is a person that belongs in jail EVEN if her kid wasn’t intentionally murdered, she should be in jail. But I think it is UNREASONABLE to conclude she didn’t murder her kid. The system is about proving beyond reasonable doubt. Duck tape around the mouth and nose? For fucks sake. Not to mention everything in life is a “gamble”. We are all imperfect humans who cannot ever truly know anything.
4 likesDon't blame the jury, blame the prosecution. They went looking for a death penalty case, but did not have the evidence back it up.
2 likesDeciding on a not-guilty verdict =/= deciding on someone’s innocence.
0 likes@ITB According to you, that monster should be a free person, right? FO
0 likesI think this is the fault of the detectives, who have not questioned the suspect for a long time, in a professional way, regardless of the fact that this woman is a good liar, they might have achieved more with long interrogations.
1 likeIt seems to me that the police did nothing to at least try to force this woman to confess to the crime.
The first confrontation with the police officers who interrogated her was quick and they immediately discovered that they thought she was guilty. They should have done that examination lightly and professionally, to try to lead her to some bigger mistake.
@moelle the point of a jury is that a group of people have to agree on the facts rather than 1 individual. Maybe you are just ultra naive, but judges tend to be extremely biases. Every day there are cases where judges just make up rulings or pass judgements because of how they feel about the person or their politics, or whatever. A jury exists so that judges don't hold the power to do that sort of stuff in major cases. Otherwise whats to stop a racist judge from just giving all black people the death penalty, or whats to stop politically active judges from convicting their political enemies. The jury is the last defense against corruption. It doesn't always work but it works 99% of the time.
1 like@xboxman5ify I could say your car smelled like a dead body. If that was enough to convict you... that wouldn't be the best outcome, would it? There are standards that must be met and in this case the prosecution did not.
0 likes@moelle I've seen you call juries civilians a couple of times? Do you or a family member work for a civilian police that treats themselves as a military unit? Just so you know judges and juries are both civilians. They both enforce civil, not military, law.
0 likesHere's the biggest difference civilians are elected or appointed by other civilians in goverment. Being a judge is not, in any country I am aware of, a meritocracy. They are elected or appointed by elected officials.
In the us you absolutely have a right to have a judge or a jury trial. I assume that you feel that your intuition is better than the juries and you disagree with the verdict. I wonder if you would be complaining about jury trials if you got the thing you wanted. I doubt it.
She accused her dad of abuse?! All just for her lies? She’s evil.
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Yup
4 likesOh my gosh I know, I was absolutely gobsmacked!!!! Her parents have supported her her entire life through her lies and tried to cover up for her and this is how she repays them??? Imagine how her mother must have felt hearing that!? And on such a public platform for the first time. And honestly, even if it was true, you can’t use abuse as an excuse for your own bad behaviour. We live in such a snowflake society where we have all these get of jail free cards. People are abused all the time. Does it mean you’re allowed to try to use that for sympathy to do bad things and get ahead in life through pity? Hell no.
67 likesHow did he not react to that when he heard the attorney accuse him of that? If he isn't guilty (which I'm sure he is not), how was he not super shocked at the moment he heard that?
13 likes@Maurine Tahar I feel like it was part of her defense strategy and the parents were in the loop.
37 likesI don’t think she was lying about that. You can see the only time she gets emotional is when she feels sorry for herself, and she cried while he was presenting that. But she absolutely murdered her child and it is disgusting that she got away with it. She literally googled how to suffocate wtf.
25 likeslittlesmew I mean not to get personal here but yes I do sadly know about it from firsthand experience ... please don’t assume people’s knowledge based on their different queries or opinions because comments like that can be triggering xo
4 likesHer parents just love her too much and truly believe Casey can do no wrong...
2 likesAnd her mother just LETTTTTTT IT HAPPEN
2 likes@Maurine Tahar yes, if he is a pedo, he needs to be in a jail. i don't believe on it.
1 like"Hi gorgeous,how you doing" . To me that family all seems odd. The daughter is a liar, the mom care about appearence and cover daughter bs.... There is too much mud to grant that the daughter is the only evil there. I don't know. Unfortunely the prosecution didn't do a good job at all. Even the detectivies didn't push the tension high enough during the interrogation.
4 likesYall really out here believing she was really abused when she is a pathological liar
4 likesIt’s so weird how she was more interested about talking about what she was eating in prison than her own “missing” child
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It truly shows how stone-cold and narcissistic this monster is... I'm so glad I can't even grasp that mindset honestly
24 likesThat's her was of venting and leaning towards normality and sanity. Disassociate herself from the most stressful thing even if it's the most minut.
8 likesI mean yeah but also people use humour and cope in different ways, that is not true in this case but but ya know
3 likesMaybe she would prefer to talk about anything but her missing child. That doesn't obviously mean she has no feeling of guilt. Keeping so many lies together must be exhausting...
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0 likesIt's typical for psychos to focus on food
1 like@NT LOL, that, or focus on parquet floors (“parakeet” floors as Amber would say).
0 likesI think the worst part is when she lies to lawyer and accuses her dear father who shows abundance of pure parental love of molesting her as a child, and the nerve of the defense attorney to use unproven claims like that do nationally defame him is disgusting, and she deserves the worst punishment allowed by law. Poor daughter got in the way of her partying.
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She had prime defense with multiple lawyers. I have to guess they were payed by her parents because how would she be able to afford that? And the way she was raised and treated by her parents makes me guess her father took that one for his "team"/daughter to improve her chances. Did he deny any of that? All infos I have is what I saw here. Maybe that hunch is wrong and then I would be terribly sorry but that's the feeling I get... And if that is true it would be not respectable of him at all but just another enabling of a sociopath.
27 likes@JavaBytes Apparently for years after the trial the father and Casey did not speak. The mother kept in touch, unsurprisingly. It seemed that she went too far with the accusations and it woke him up. I read that he got into a severe car crash a while ago and it sounded like he speaks to her now. I read this last year or so and it seemed credible.
15 likesEvil spirit
1 like@Rdwrer I could imagine a severe car crash having such an impact. Thanks for the infos!
0 likesTo hear she accused her poor Dad of that after the love he showed her on that prison call absolutely broke me. :'(
20 likesThe Defence Attorney was only doing his job. He was only going by what his client , Casey told him . It’s Casey’s fault .
8 likesI had to play that back to make sure i heard that correctly then my jaw proceeded to hit the floor. Cant get much more evil that that.
14 likesIt's completely plausible the attorney came up with that. That's how you win cases.
3 likesI wanna know how dad being an ex policeman and a cadaver dog both picked up on the smell of death from her car and she was able to lie it away as garbage.
2 likes@Michelle Menth Very true! Afterwards her father changed his opinion and said it was garbage , maybe an old pizza that he’d smelled He was obviously covering up for his daughter . The jury were despicable imo . A month after the verdict one of the jurors gave two interviews to People magazine . He said that the Prosecution didn’t give enough evidence to convict Casey ! He said the jurors knew Casey had probably done something wrong but not beyond a reasonable doubt ! He said that the jurors didn’t like the Prosecutors! They found the lead prosecutor Jeff Ashton ambitious and arrogant and the other prosecutor they thought was cold and mechanical . But the jurors liked Casey’s defence lawyer Jose Baez ,as they thought he was the only one in the room who cared .
3 likesWhat a load of tosh! There was plenty of evidence . The principle medical officer DR G gave substantial evidence too . She said that she couldn’t understand the non guilty verdict and she was very upset by it . Also why would the jury like the Defence lawyer , just because he cared about Casey !
The jury seems off to me 💰💰
Even if I'm late, TY for your comment!! HOW can she do that to her kind father in front of the world?! What I don't get, is her father and mother are QUIETLY sitting in the courtroom and listening to this! ACCEPTING basically to be dragged in the mud??? I just don't get it. Obviously it's a disgusting lie from the lawyer to gain sympathy for CA and to "explain" why she lies all the time... but HOW can her parents, after everything they have done for her, support her, helping her with Caley (that's what CA tell them while in jail)... how can they COMPLY with that defense?? And not come forward and say it's total BS!!!! It's the only time CA can't even hold crying, while her lawyer is stating that horrible accusation, because she's so ashamed TO TARNISH HER DAD IN FRONT OF THE WORLD... but it's necessary to HER defense. It makes no sense, because her mother wouldn't be sitting next to her father if she believes it, and shouldn't support CA if it's not. They even comply with the drowning theory and that they all covered it???? I don't get all that... they should have been KEY WITNESSES for Caley.
1 like@Syl D I agree with you . I presume that CA’s parents had lost their granddaughter and didn’t want to lose their daughter too
4 likesThey let CA ‘walk’ all over them. After she was acquitted she didn’t bother with them and cut all contact with them . So they ‘lost ‘ her regardless
I have no empathy for her parents . They did not stand up for their grandchild and did not get justice for her . The father an ex police officer even changed his story to ensure CA was found not guilty . I believe they help create CA into the monster she is .
@Cherry Metha And I agree back. I knew about this case of course, but I forgot about the accusation of the dad (without ANY evidence, even if CA's attorney insisted this trial was about FACTS, not emotion). Even if my life was at risk, I would ABSOLUTELY refrain from saying something like that about my father.
2 likesThe parents did everything right at the beginning (not throwing CA under the bus, but saying what has to be said and trying to find Casey). Then, maybe sending their daughter for potential death penalty was too much (she'd never have been executed anw), but the more I have information about them, the less I feel empathy... It's something to defend their daughter in a way, but comply with total BS is something else. What CA did is not "only" killing, but throwing away of her life, their innocent grandchild, like garbage, being DELIGHTED with that. Anyway CA put a shadow on this family FOREVER --> and THEY participated in a way.
I don't understand how the jury agreed with this attorney (over this amount of evidence and all the lying)... The moment he said the father put his pen** into CA mouth (with the face of the father in the courtroom 🤐lol), HE LOST ME. It's so obvious, but he seduced the jury (they are weak and stupid or what??). The prosecution was boring af, did not bring up all evidence and should have asked for life in prison, instead of death penalty to have more chance.
And so why didn't the investigation continue ? She was charge with minor charges for hiding the body, after the "drowning/accident", but where are the evidence for that?? It's all about CA. THIS CASE IS BEYOND UNDERSTANDING. Glad we can share our frustration.
@Syl D You are 100% right! A woman who can murder her daughter and then go and party has no conscience or empathy for anyone . She will use and manipulate anyone to get what she wants . CA is ruthless and evil imo . She didn’t care about how her father felt when she lied and falsely accuse him of m.olesting her . CA with the help of her lawyers was laying the foundations of her having had a hard life due to abuse as an excuse for k,illing her daughter .
1 likeI believe that CA’s parents never really gave her boundaries while she was growing up, so she did what she wanted to do. I think they were always scared of losing her ie that she’d go off and never contact them again and she used that threat to her full advantage imo . . It’s just unbelievable that they’d lie to protect CA and forget all about their granddaughter who suffered immensely at the hands of her mother
The Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree! All three of them are cut from the same cloth.
The jury definitely have blood on their hands . I saw Dr G in an interview . She was lead medical officer on the case . She said that the prosecution had plenty of evidence . She also said that the judge didn’t allow some of the evidence . Why not ? That’s a red flag ! She was shocked and upset that there was no justice for Caylee.
Sometimes 💰💰exchanges hands. People think that the legal world is squeaky clean . Its not. Far from it . The way the case was conducted was not in the interest of justice . The reasons the jury gave were about the personalities of the Defence and Prosecution which has no bearing on the Case . I’d read an article ages ago that CA was dating one of her lawyers. I don’t know if that’s true but as she’s very manipulative I can see that it’s highly probable imo ,
Excellent points you made about the other minor charges ! Maybe it was ‘time served’? .
It’s really good to discuss the case with you i
@Cherry Metha Yes same here! Look at this comment I received! If the jury, by any bad luck, were a few of this kind of people, then I get the outcome of this trial😮💨! No need to answer, it's lost cause, but be aware!! It's really hard to read 🙄🤔(I did NOT edit anything):
0 likesThe comment ---> ""Syl D The sad demise of her child could actually have been a real accident and she then used the tragic situation for a good one: I think her fathere definitely molested her and her mother knew about it and did nothing (as is usually the case). She made sure that it was mentioned by her lawyer so that the whole world can (finally) know. She used all this to hurt them down to their core as they did her. If this is the case: Brilliant! Also, the fact that everything worked in her favour is perhaps proof of this. And perhaps fate spared that little girl to suffer from her grandparents as her mother did"".
Imagine, some people can go as far as : thanks to the accident, CA could eventually reveal what her father did to her (and could have done to Caley)😮😣. Wow, come on, just her partying and dancing and the duct tape on Caley, was ENOUGH to debunk this theory. Man, this lawyer could be a CULT LEADER... he made it so that all the compulsive lying, looked better than ANY truth! And the jury agreed with the lawyer, the duct tape was not convincing enough, it could have been a possible contamination!... The chloroform and all CA internet research were not brought up by the incompetent prosecution apparently. Maybe money is involved, but maybe it was just her and her defense show, that convinced this weak jury and it's even worse. Then justice was not served for no reason. Just they wanted to show off and be MORE convinced LOL.
Maybe because it's too difficult to process that a mom can kill her child like that, leave her in the trunk of her car, because she doesn't want to take care of her (even dead) and dispose of her like garbage, just to ENJOY her life... and then accused her dad to explain her lying and behavior (no sense but ok). On top of that : she made fun of the police, her parents, her relatives, everyone and should have had her ass REALLY kicked AT THE TRIAL!
It’s really sick seeing a lawyer spin a web of lies just like the sociopath he’s defending.
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Dude gives me serious Saul Goodman vibes
52 likesYea man but that's his job
53 likes@teodor maciuca I'm pretty sure he could've done his job in a less unethical way
30 likes@Be N S O N His job is to get her out of jail regardless of what she had done. This much evidence against her and he managed to convince the jury that she is not gulty. That's a great lawyer.
65 likes@teodor maciuca idk man, the justice system's supposed to separate the guilty from the innocent, so intentionally lying and playing to the jury to protect an obviously guilty woman, it's just wrong.
45 likes@Be N S O N id rather not drag other systems through the mud as to start an internet argument but honestly as bad as this is, if you look at “modern” countries defense styles there are far worse legal systems. Still though this is pretty bad, if the father is innocent imagine that shock in court hearing your daughter say that.
8 likes@Be N S O N thats the jury’s job, not the attorney’s
8 likesThis mindset is really common but lawyers are doing their job for better or worse, defending an innocent poc who has been unfairly treated by our justice system or a cold blooded killer. All people no matter how dreadful has the right to “show their side of the story” in a courtroom and that’s what lawyers are for. We’re just doing our job. What we should blame these things for are ether the very flawed justice system or the fact that Casey most definitely was very mentally unwell, she should’ve gotten the rehab and help she needed before she hurt others. Am I defending her? Absolutely not, what she has done is most utterly horrible. Do I think this could’ve been prevented if she got some sort of rehab and help to be a normal functioning human being? Absolutely
7 likes@Be N S O N no. The justice systems job is to give everyone a fair trial.
6 likesAs soon as we start “sending bad people to jail without 100% certainty” so many more innocent people would be in jail.
It’s sucks to see a guilty person get freedom. But it would suck much more if 100 innocent people went to prison for every 1 guilty person that goes to prison just to make sure EVERY guilty person goes to prison.
So yeah. It’s sucks when people like her get away with this shit. But it’s the better of two evils.
@teodor maciuca but somewhat he knew she was guilty. Yet protected her and got her out in the name of money and JOB.. He wouldn't find himself guilty. But i bet they can't sleep at night feeling the guilty of saving a murderer.
2 likes@teodor maciuca uh, you know that jobs can be unethical right? Just because it's his job doesnt give him a free pass. How many actual nazis were just doing their jobs?
3 likes@Jek bruh dont compare her to nazis
2 likes@teodor maciuca I'm not. I'm saying that jobs can be unethical and I am using nazis as an example of a job that was unethical
3 likes@Jek It is unethical, but it's in his interest to get her out of trouble. If you are a lawyer you must do whatever you can to get the best outcome for your client. I dont know man depends on the perspective. It's very impressive that against all the evidence he got the jury to vote not gulty.
1 likeThere are many innocent people who have been wrongly charged for crimes because all the evidence points directly to them. This is the reason why every deserves a fair trial with a lawyer who will do the best they can to win their client’s case. To avoid punishing innocent people for crimes they didn’t commit. Innocent people have spent life in prison and given the death penalty.
3 likesUnless Casey specifically told the lawyer that she actually did murder her daughter and that her father never actually molested her, then he was acting in good faith. It’s his sworn duty to represent the defendant based on the information he has whether he personally believes the defendant is telling the truth or not.
With that being said, his smugness at the end certainly seems to show that he believed she was guilty and that he was very pleased with himself that he won the case despite the mountain of evidence against Casey.
he was getting some
0 likes@Be N S O N Maybe it is a bit late on this, but this exemplifies the biggest problem with representative justice systems. False convictions and acquittals are SIGNIFICANTLY higher when there is a defense and a prosecution because the job of the lawyers are to create two competing narratives, not to find the truth in any capacity.
1 likeI imagine the jury in this case found her not guilty because of 'beyond a reasonable doubt' since there was scarce evidence specifically placing her at the scene of the crime. However, I think it's especially disgusting that she even got off on the child abuse charges with a not guilty verdict. even the simple fact that she didn't call the police for 31 days should be enough to prove that beyond any doubt imo.
@Be N S O N That's the way the sausage is made
0 likes@Jek it's simple: you dont want to put your client in jail, who's gonna pay for you?
1 like@teodor maciuca yes he is a great lawyer but that doesn't not make him a piece of shit.
0 likesA+ Lawyer, hopefully he got a generous tip from casey
0 likes@Be N S O N Sadly not protecting her would be unethical.
0 likesJust found out she started a photography company, just to be closed down its twitter account because people kept asking about caylee. She started a firm law company, to help people that "mistakenly accused like her" and she wanted a child but her father already said dont make the same mistake. Thank god caylee law was implemented so parent do not keep secret about their son dissapearance like someone did for 31 days
89 likesWatching the video while reading the comments, getting to know that she is not found guilty makes it more difficult to watch the remaining 68 minutes.
178 likesHer laughing and talking about eating coleslaw, dammn, I wouldn't be able to swallow water if anything happened to my neighbor's child, let alone mine.
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Sociopathy is a common and unfortunately accepted trait/ coping strategy in the established order. Watch any president/ prime minister ever.
7 likes“Haha tell dad that I’m eating food I never used to eat in here, haha”
4 likesI was young when this case happened (I’m 22) and the shock of this case never fails I swear like I literally watched the trial when I was a kid and even lived in denial after she got off for her child’s death.
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You said it perfectly here. I’m also 22, every couple of years I’m reminded of this case and I’m always left being filled with disgust, contempt, and disbelief. I vividly remember being in school, seeing everything unfold over the news, and being left with this absolute miscarriage of justice
6 likesI'm still convinced that Casey wanted to go out partying and decided to try to get Caylee to fall asleep using Xanax (Aka Zanny the Nanny) but her dumb ass overdosed her and killed her, but decided to stage her corpse and buried her in a random location thinking she wouldn't get caught. The justice system failed Caylee, and I'm still furious about it today.
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If it was an accidental death by Xanax (which would still be at least manslaughter), she wouldn't have searched suffocation methods beforehand. It was murder, and afterward, she approved of her own judgment in murdering her daughter so she could party more. I wish the jury could be put on trial for negligence.
6 likesSo disgusted by the defense lawyers. They defended a monster and even celebrated their "victory" and even hugged the monster out of pure joy and sense of triumphant. Why did they do that? They are not stupid. They know this thing wearing a human mask killed a 3 year old child who was even her daughter. They did it to enrich their own career, knowing that they would be able to build even more renown by "winning" an infamous case. They let this monster out to roam free and were even joyful that they could, just for the sake of their own fame and money. Disgusting
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Lawyers do their job, their job is not to judge their person it’s to help them win the trial.
45 likes@Nathan Wassem yeah, after watching a lot of other trial clips, I realized that it is common for defense lawyers to play the victim card and call for sympathy how ever they possibly can especially in a case like this where the defendant has no chance to win. Well, in this case jury were clearly not the brightest of bunch and failed to deliver justice tho. Anyways this was my first time watching a trial so I was uninformed and shocked to hear something like that from obviously smart people like lawyers, defending a pile of garbage. Someone's gotta do it I guess because we all deserve justice. Now I'm more mad at the jury lol
20 likesThis mindset is really common but lawyers are doing their job for better or worse, defending an innocent poc who has been unfairly treated by our justice system or a cold blooded killer. All people no matter how dreadful has the right to “show their side of the story” in a courtroom and that’s what lawyers are for. We’re just doing our job. What we should blame these things for are ether the very flawed justice system or the fact that Casey most definitely was very mentally unwell, she should’ve gotten the rehab and help she needed before she hurt others. Am I defending her? Absolutely not, what she has done is most utterly horrible. Do I think this could’ve been prevented if she got some sort of rehab and help to be a normal functioning human being? Absolutely
10 likesdude that's a really immature way of thinking about the justice system. I just hope you'll never need a defense lawyer.
3 likes@Sarah maybe I haven't seen enough trials and uninformed but these lawyers here looked way too happy to let this trash out. Maybe it's a strategy to appeal to future customers by looking like they actually care but nonetheless they are basically pulling all these gigs for their fame and money. I don't know what's immature about feeling disgusted about letting a murderer to roam free lol. Also as I mentioned above it's more of a jury's fault, letting dumb and uninformed people to decide things seems to be a big flaw to me tbh
4 likes@Sarah why r u going so hard in multiple comments to defend this monster being free?
8 likes@Allanah McDermott Because humans are still humans and not monsters, no matter what they might have done.
0 likes@Nugget I'll ask you a question: if it were your job to design a justice system, what would that look like?
1 like@Sarah okay but she’s still a heinous person? Why you care so much to defend her? Weird
5 likes@vanessa Hall You misunderstand what I'm defending. Not this particular person who I actually believe murdered her child and if that's true deserves to be in prison. I'm defending the idea that everyone deserves a fair trial and a defense attorney who does their best to actually win the case.
4 likesThe thing that I find really weird is this outrage over anyone who is found not guilty. You know that the US have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world, it might even be the highest among democratic countries? More and more convictions and harsher and harsher sentences do not solve any of society's problems, it only tickles your revenge fantasies.
Watch "The Devil's Advocate". Keanu Reeves and Al Pacino 😁
0 likes@Nathan Wassem I agree, a system without equal defence would be incredibly corrupted. But a defence lawyer who is knowingly defending the guilty should not be happy about winning, that’s the issue, especially in a case like this.
2 likesThere is a lawyer on both sides and that is necessary for justice
0 likesRigorous defense in an adversarial system is what gives us the confidence we aren’t sentencing innocents daily.
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0 likesI started last night.
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0 likesThat’s exactly how I got here
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0 likesI literally subscribed from that video omg
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0 likesLiterally been my YouTube history for the like last week
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0 likesLol the new one made me binge them after already having watched them
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0 likesWe really living the same life 😂
0 likesHaha. Truest statement I’ve read all day
0 likesHow anyone can watch this and not be outraged by the ruling is beyond me. She killed her child and went about her life like it never happened. How is that not plainly obvious? Her behavior, her lies, her internet searches. the made up ppl, places and her complete indifference about it all says she's 100%, no doubt guilty.
24 likesCasey thought she could lie her way through anything and get away with it, and unfortunately that was consistently reinforced for her. I remember watching this as a child and as an adult, I cannot fathom how she was found not guilty. She was clearly guilty to me as a 10 year old, this is just an injustice for Caylee.
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@Xo Xo that is an interesting perspective that I never considered!! Unfortunately there are better ways to go about things instead of harming an innocent baby girl.
0 likes@TalkWithTati True, but can there be one more hurting and effective?
0 likes@TalkWithTati And the fact that everything worked in her favour can perhaps be a sign that this whole thing was necessary and just... because it was done by a person with a broken mind and heart.
0 likes@TalkWithTati Perhaps the child did die accidentally. She then knew she could use this for revenge. And it worked.
0 likesThis woman is like a super-villain that can only be written in the realm of fantasy or sci-fi.
35 likesEveryone KNEW she was lying. Every word out of her mouth could be refuted with tangible evidence. Detectives, investigators, prosecutors, police.... Every one of them was played like a fiddle, with Casey as the orchestrater, audience, and center stage player.
Their are times that we root for the bad guy. He /she goes up against a government, a rule of law, or some fictional entity, and comes out Victorious.
It amazes me that she got away with the murder of her daughter.
A modern day criminal mastermind.
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No. She was stupid af, she just had a ridiculously good lawyer.
1 likeIts worth noting that during the phone call with her parents from jail, she used the past tense about her parents relationship to her daughter "Caylee was lucky to have you as grandparents"
24 likesI can’t help but feel that Caylee’s name is a reflection of Casey’s narcissism in an attempt to afford herself as much credit as possible for something she never even deserved in the first place.
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I remember that those kind of names were very popular until this happened. It seems like everyone had a baby girl named Kaylee, Kiley, Keeley, Kaeleen, etc. 🤷🏻♂️
0 likesSome cases like these are so infuriating to watch how confident they are to lie to detectives who's jobs is to read lies like a book. Rest easy to all those lives lost to those they trusted with their lives❤️
1 likeAssuming she used some sort of sedative and Caylee OD'd, I wonder what her sentence would have been had she just came clean the next morning and admitted to it being a horrible, horrible, negligent accident.
17 likesJust a complete -not-on-the-topic thing I realised: The way the parents talked to Casey on the phone, they still used "sweetheart" etc.
11 likesAs a German, this is weird - in a phonecall like this, you can be very sure the words would be very harsh and direct, not coating anything. This just blew my mind for some reason :D
8:05 “yes sir” “no sir” straight to the point. Respectful. Thank this guy for being completely professional with this. Thank him for being honest.
6 likes“It’s not the end of the road” what a good man. Even trying to get info out of her he still is kind of emotionally supporting her to when she does confess that it isn’t the end of the world. And it will be okay.
This just proves how easy it is to manipulate people into believing that there isn’t enough evidence to convict someone and to make them think that their reasoning for trying to convict someone is due to emotions.
1 likeJust remembered that Anthony's lawyer had alleged that Casey went through sexual assault at the hands of her father at age 8? Wonder how her dad handled that after she was aquitted? 🤔
I had read some articles on Anthony and she said that she was open to having kids one day. Her father said: "Knowing now that she could potentially be a mom again, I hope she does better this time around than what she did last time.”
Even her family doesn't think she's fully innocent.
I think her search history, the car smelling of rot, Caylee's hair in the trunk, remains of chloroform in the trunk, her hesitation to call the cops, and her giving the detectives the run around should have gotten her convicted of something.
Casey is pure evil. I am halfway through this, and as fascinating as it is, knowing she got away with it is too infuriating for me to finish watching. Life is so random, absurd, and unfair . . . WTF.
3 likesJust under 1.4 million people in Orange County FL and they managed to find the 12 dumbest ones to sit on this jury. Sickening.
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Not surprised it’s Florida
5 likesIt's Florida what do you expect?
4 likesIf she supposedly fell in a pool and drowned, who the fuck put duct tape over her nose and mouth?!? The whole case and verdict is outrageous...
19 likesThat poor little girl 😓
She definitely should have been prosecuted and also I think the way her dad reacts to her in the first time we see them talking to her in person makes me suspicious of him. I think the whole family is off and probably should all be under investigation next to her.
0 likesThis case is the most disturbing case I have ever seen. I'm in the UK and heard bits of it and thought I need to find out what this is all about. I was so shocked by it all. The lies she told just went on, tbh the whole family are very wierd, I mean a month and nobody saw Caley, what were they thinking? She never rang the police, her baby was missing for 30 days and she did nothing, well she partied, got a tattoo and carried on her life supposidley not knowing where her child was. If my child was missing for 30 seconds I would be distraught. She googled chloroform, why would anybody Google that unless they were interested in using it. She killed that poor little girl because she got in the way of her partying and she got away with it. People have been done for murder with way less proof than her. She has no remorse for her child what so ever, found in a blanket with duct tape over her mouth and nose, wow what an awful death that poor baby, RIP beautiful little girl I'm sorry for your death ❤️
0 likesHow do attorney’s live with themselves when they lie about such disgusting things
11 likesThis might be the most expertly made true crime documentary I've ever watched. May Lady Karma never leave what's left of Casey Anthony's life.
1 likeThat lawyer buffed the hell out of his speech stat before the closing statement. I have no doubt Casey is guilty but dude went into whatever the lawyer equivalent of beast mode there and made some good points. Didn't help that the prosecution was really bad. Karma will get Casey in the end. Pretty sure she'll have to live in hiding for years to come. Enjoy hell, baby killer.
2 likesI really think her mom knew it was her when they were talking to her in the prison. I think she didn't make it obvious she knew in hopes that maybe she would be able to stay on Casey's "good side" and possibly piece things together/get more info out of her.
1 likeHonestly I might've voted not guilty myself.
2 likesCasey reminds me of a woman I'm close with who was also molested by her father as a child. All her life she's suffered from depression, suicidal thoughts, and anxiety. When she broke the silence her parents reprimanded her because "family secrets must be kept quiet".
There's no real Casey as she was replaced with what we see there most of the time: simulacrum. She lives in a world of fantasy where the truth and lies are indistinguishable, and pain doesn't hurt. She had no care for her daughter because the concept of love doesn't even exist in her mind.
Of course the defense could've faked the whole thing, maybe even getting her parents involved, but I don't think so. Notice how she's bracing herself as her attorney gets ready to drop the bomb and then bursts out as the ugly secrets are unapologetically spilled. That's real pain. That seems to me like the real, 8-year-old Casey rising to the surface for a brief moment.
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To believe Casey's nonsense, you also have to believe that her father, a decades-long police detective, stupidly compelled her to throw his grand-daughter in a trash heap mere feet away from HIS own home, when he simply could easily made her disappear forever (It is Florida, after all). You also have to accept that after years of horrific abuse by her father, she abandons her own daughter for days on end, again and again, to this same individual. I don't buy it.
3 likes@Debra C I completely agree with you.
1 likeAll I'm saying is I'm not 100% sure she intentionally killed her so I'm not sure I could've said 'GUILTY' and have her executed.
Leaving her daughter with her grandparents may be shocking and horrifying (if the allegations against George are true) but it's common for victims like her to dissociate to the point where their abuser/father become two different people in their mind.
@marq _ If it was an accident, why would she have covered it up? Better still, why would her father compel her to cover it up? That was her story in court.
1 likeI can't get past the use of duct tape. The ONLY reasons to use that on a living child are nefarious. But, I do get your point, since we can't know definitively, whether the death was intentional, she should receive the benefit of the doubt.
as a jury your job would to say whether they were guilty or not guilty, not your philosophical opinions on the matter
1 likeManagement where I used to work would lie without conscience. Couldn't believe anything they said. Working for such an institution over the long game is very unhealthy.
1 likeI always heard of this case but never went into it. I am surprised this happened where I live and I didn’t even know. I was only 8 at the time, but still. It hits so close.
0 likesThe most heartbreaking part isn’t that poor baby’s death it’s that her mom got away it
1 likeThe parents relationship with Casey is enabling. There is a DVD on Casey Anthony that details the dysfunction in this family that ends in the murder of an innocent toddler.
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What is it called?
0 likesI for one, know what damage is done by sexual abuse... I'm not saying she's inocent, but if she was sexually abused... That would explain her indifference and self preservation.
1 likeThe loss of her child I question.
I get paranoid when my kids are late coming home after school !!!!
This is like The Usual Suspects level of off-the-cuff lying. I have absolutely no idea what she's thinking or feeling at any moment. It's baffling at every step.
1 likeShe's a good liar, but that's where a pathological liar fail often: being unable to back up what they say with things that can be easily verifiable, like a goddamn employment in a huge company who actually have the names of their employees
0 likesAll in all her performance was pretty good, but similar to a theatrical piece with absolutely no depths
I put the ultimate responsibility for Caylee's death on Casey's parents. She didn't become a monster all by herself. What kind of "parenting" created Casey Anthony??
2 likesShe's said "Caylee's 'been' so lucky to have you as grandparents." Then changed the 'been' to 'is'. That says a lot
2 likesWe need more of these , you are incredible at these . They are super interesting
0 likesIt's a gut shot everytime they read not guilty. How the hell could a jury come back all in agreement of not guilty baffles me! It's proven she killed her kid. No doubt about it.
0 likesI have a child.....and I'm a young mom. I also want to enjoy my life, but I can do it with my child being in it. This woman is a mom in theory but practically she is a monster. RIP LITTLE ANGEL....YOU ARE BETTER WITHOUT YOUR MOM
4 likesOk so if Caylee simply fell in the pool and drowned, why did her mother feel the need lie about it and create this whole story about the nanny taking her!! If it was accidental then there wouldn't be any logical explanation to fabricate such a ridiculous story as anyone with half a brain cell would have figured that out and clearly casey isn't that stupid so why would she have put herself in a situation where she would have to lie when she didn't need to?? she would have known that already and would have called the emergency services on day 1 not 31!!
1 likeShe was totally involved in it. That poor kid may her soul rip💚💙
1 likeThis case as well as the Garrett Philips case are the two cases that would be enough to have no faith in the justice system
0 likesNever have I been so infuriated by a court case
1 likeWhen ever you post again, you should get a relatively unknown case and let us try to decide whether the criminal was guilty or not and then tell us whether they are or not in the end of the video.
0 likesThis woman is obviously lying. There is numerous evidence pointing to the fact that she is clearly guilty. Why on earth was she allowed to walk free? It boggles my mind.
6 likesI've listened to the analysis starting at 47:33 so many times now. Very well put.
0 likesSo many people who were innocent of crimes went to prison for 20 to 30 years before they were let out because they were innocent. Casey killed her daughter because she wanted her freedom to party and not have to work and support her child. It's a shame she wasn't found guilty and sent to prison. This is a great channel and look forward to more videos. Thanks.
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This is when a real life Dexter would come in handy
7 likes@DARREN DAY Honestly, if you know anything about history you know that this is factually incorrect.
3 likes@gODZILLA What has history got to do with it? I believe in the soul and trust me if you think you can go through life doing bad things and then you die and that's it well your in for a big suprise.
1 like@DARREN DAY sure if you believe in an afterlife. But karma within the real world doesn't exist as a law. Sometimes it does happen and that's nice, but if often doesn't and bad people get away with doing bad things constantly, to the point of being glorified sometimes.
1 like@DARREN DAY Karma does not exist. Come back to reality.
1 likeKnowing that for the past 14 years shes got to live her life normally. Im so angry bruh
3 likesIm not sure, but doesn’t it seem wrong/rigged that in court she was basically fighting against no one? Like there wasn’t a lawer for the dead child?
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The prosecution is essentially the child's lawyer. In a murder case it's "The People" versus whoever is accused. "The People" being the state that the crime is being tried in.
3 likes57:34 U must be kidding the shit out of me.. her father was so supportive the whole time, she acted nothing like u would do infront of your sexually abusive father, (u would be anxious, u won't be able to look straight in the eye), infact she acted so friendly with her father.. I can't imagine her making all of this, jst for her own benefit. This Is Horrible.
3 likesI will never understand how others find people like this to be even slightly "believable" or "charismatic". I didn't get it when this was actually happening and I still don't get it now. I guess I just have a better intuition against total and utter bullshit.
0 likes"Keep defending your child's bad behaviour then a lawyer will be doing the same in the future".
1 like"Do you believe thinking up more lies to tell us will help us?"
1 like"No"
She was probably lying there too lol
The poor child has yet got her justice which is so saddening
1 likeSo, if lying can fake upto this level of stage, my faith on lying is restored. I need to be a master at. This juries are my motivation. Just amazing
1 likeAll I wish for now is for that little baby girl to Rest In Peace. ❤️
0 likesThe worst part of all this is that it's clear she no longer wanted to be a mother, and it's also clear her parents would've taken that baby in in a heartbeat. I can't believe this woman even survived jail.
1 likeIf I ever get into trouble, I want her lawyer.
1 likeThe way she spoke to her mother on the phone call from jail, wow...
1 likeHer father just sat as his character was smashed but her defense did the same thing too lady justice.
1 likedefender: „no one knows the answer“
1 likealso defender: „She didn’t killed her“
What an professional
Bruh all he was saying was literally „we cant prove it“
it’s shocking. Too many indications that she killed her own child and the reason why she didnt went to jail is because „no one knows the answer“? Are you kidding me?
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“I tell the jury that the client didn’t do it”
0 likes“Roll a d20 at disadvantage”
“Nat 20”
“...”
Damn some nasty shit was said about her father in court. I wonder if it was completely made up?
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Couse it wuz
0 likes-Samuel L Jackson (Hateful 8)🤣
Not once have I ever used my friends/acquaintances middle names when mentioning them, yet the first two names outta her mouth that's what she says. I don't even know most my friend's middle names, let alone some random co-worker.
0 likesThis literally make me fighting mad just listening to her calm and cool attitude
1 likeIt is absoutely unbelievable they picked such a thick group of people in one jury 🙄 She murdered her own child because she was a hindrance to her lifestyle simple. I just pray🙏 karma comes calling at her door and Caylee haunts her for the rest of her miserable life on this earth.
0 likesThat poor little baby and sweet grandparents. I feel so sorry for them.
0 likesHoly shit. I thought she got convicted! I was shocked when they said not guilty! Wtf I’m so mad right now this woman killed her baby and got away with it
0 likesI really love your channel. Could you please do a video on the trials of George Zimmerman
0 likesIm going to have to watch this in short bursts, I cannot listen to her lie every time she speaks. What a piece of work!
1 likePlease please somebody do something Justice needs to be dealt out
0 likesIt got me when the narrator said Casey is a “Pathological liar”
1 likeThat's why abortion should be legal
11 likesI'm so dumbfounded, I thought at the end of the video it'll say that she's sentenced to life in prison. she's literally just partying
0 likesMay Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez be brought to justice for her evil deed!!
0 likesHow TF did she not get guilty?
1 likeShe be extremely lucky.
What? Obviously shes as guilty as it comes!!!! Whos Smiling/ Partying/ and the „happiest theyve ever been“ when their child‘s missing? WTF?
1 likeI still cannot believe she wasn't charged. She clearly was instrumental in her child's death! The jury was appalling to say the least.
0 likesAt 29;57 when she said the little girl “was lucky to have had them” grand parents then quickly changed it to “and still has both of you”. Slip up
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Yes I noticed that too.
2 likesI never felt so disgusted by a person. I've seen hundreds of cases and this one is truly one of the worst and the fact that the jury couldn't find enough to convict is truly sickening.
0 likesThat slip up could've been presented as evidence to show Casey knew that Caylee was dead.
1 likeIs this what you would call a pathological liar?
1 likeTalked to Juliet Lewis about caylee going missing…but when asked if she has Juliet’s number she says no she just moved two-three months ago. And no longer works at universal…ma’am if caylee has been only missing 30 days how did you talk to Juliet about it?
0 likesThe Devil can go on vacation, there are plenty of attorneys around to do his job. Gosh I hope they aren't parents.
1 likeOkay fine, we’ll accept that she’s not guilty. But what happened to the child? Why isn’t her mother so diligent to find out what happened to her child???
1 likeOh god that accusations on the father.... What he's, is a loving father and grandpa and he gets this....🤷
0 likesThe child “drowned” but was duct taped over her mouth and nose etc. and she’s still not found guilty? Make it make sense. What’s the point of duct taping a child that was already dead from “drowning”? This is so dangerous because it shows people you can literally get away with murder by confidently lying. I can name a few people who probably took notes from this. Sickening.
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In fairness, you would need a slimy lawyer in addition to the lying.
143 likesPlus the internet history of her searching suffocation and FULLPROOF SUFFOCATION.
291 likesSHE Slept with the detetive
61 likes@Certified Goat please elaborate
17 likesThis is up there with "if the glove don't fit, you must acquit". Our system has failed many times. Innocent people getting put into prison and people like her and OJ walking free.
94 likes@Biggy Boris There's nothing slimy about defending your client. That's an attorney's job, whether the client is guilty or not.
76 likesExactly what I’ve been saying, a bunch of single celled organisms in the jury that day.
28 likes@Chicken Norris I read it somewhere Ill tell u more later
2 likesLet me look it up real quick
0 likes@Chicken Norris Check becca C's comment the replies said it
0 likes@SMF 1 ikr they literally wrongly accused and imprisoned the Central Park 5 for most of their lives but people like her, r-kelly and OJ are free. It’s honestly disgusting
17 likes@SMF 1 cant get em all unfortunately
2 likesit could have been put there by Casey to avoid negligence accusations, to make it seem like her daughter was abducted (and that she, therefore, had no involvement in Caylee's death at all).
8 likesshe's guilty of something-- I personally think that Caylee DID drown, since Casey often ignored problems and had a pool that was very much accessible to Caylee.
then, Casey freaked the fuck out, looked up ways to kill herself, tried to make it look like an abduction to avoid blame, and ultimately buried her.
she wouldn't have been able to pull off the abduction story immediately after her daughter's death; those lies wouldn't have worked as well. the month-long gap between Caylee's death and Casey's arrest allowed Casey to lie and feign forgetfulness.
she's extremely guilty, but i don't really think she killed her daughter directly. i think she was negligent and wanted to blow it off, as she did all her life with her mistakes.
@Fluffy Little Bear so the morality of that doesn't bug you?
4 likes@Ryzerch Yes. I agree. It will come back to bite them in the ass though!
1 likeoh you wouldn't know but hey aye welcome to this fucked up and hypocrite world!
0 likesaxie Didn’t she claim that Caylee “drowned” in the pool?
2 likes@axie Maybe we dont know
0 likesYou can’t fault the lawyer for being an amazing lawyer 😂, he’s a good ass attorney who did his job😂
4 likes@axie But if she did drown her mother would have cared
3 likes@Certified Goat yeah, of course, but it's been shown time and time again that casey mostly cares about herself. she cares about her image.
3 likes@axie Yeah but before that she wrote in her journal if her daughter really had drowned she wouldnt be out partying and saying shes been happier than ever in her journal
7 likesif she wanted to hide her sadness why do it in a journal No one would see it
0 likes@The_Almighty_Jack yes, there are a lot of facts i weren't aware of when i wrote this comment. i now think it's more likely that she did kill her child, but a motive is still completely absent (but i don't really want to get into the "is casey criminally insane?" argument)
6 likesthe main reason (upon reading the allegedly flawed autopsy report) that i think she killed caylee was that the body was in different bags, in different segments. that would not be the result of a drowning.
however, her dragging out the finding of the body for so long, if we go with the drowning story, would cover up the fact that the child drowned if that was the case.
all around, casey's bizarre behavior made the case nearly impossible to sift through and come to any 100% clear solution, which is the main reason why she was acquitted. however, i still think she should have AT LEAST received some form of negligence charge.
@axie "...then, Casey freaked the fuck out, looked up ways to kill herself, tried to make it look like an abduction to avoid blame, and ultimately buried her."
9 likes...If you mean to say Casey googled 'suffocation' and 'flawless suffocation" (or whatever it was) with the intention of finding a way to kill herself ...No, that doesn't make sense, it's an extremely unconventional way of approaching the problem of committing suicide. The fact that the child was found with its mouth covered by tape clearly indicates suffocation or the attempt to portray suffocation as the cause of death.
Why do this after drowning, what advantage was she seeing in re-framing a drowning so as to make it appear a suffocation...? She had a swimming pool incriminating her for negligence, fair enough, but she also had tape in the house. Her plots are generally single layered and poorly constructed, seemingly on the fly - her taking the officers to the Universal building and subsequent blabbering reasoning for this idiotic attempt at misleading them doesn't show planning so advanced as you are detailing there.
Had she been attempting to frame the death as you are describing surely the most obvious deception would be to make some attempt to plant evidence indicating the presence of a third party and yet, as stated in the court, all the items found on the body were taken directly from Casey's household - this being the case, there is no reason to believe Casey buried the body with the intention of planting supporting evidence to corroborate an abduction story - if such was the case the lack of any erroneous evidence leading the investigators to look elsewhere makes it a premeditated plan to avoid any blame whilst increasing the personal risk 100-fold, this being carried out without any attempt to redirect attentions elsewhere - which makes no sense whatsoever.
I can't think of a way that she didn't do it.
[After watching recent videos about the case, it does look like the father may in fact be responsible. An unspeakable conspiracy in other words. It was widely noted that he refused to answer questions over the trial and was thought untruthful in the answers he gave, he also placed testimony against Casey. Its grim but casey's body was dressed in clothes far too small for her, asif by someone who did not know which clothes were current, which concurs with it being someone other than casey who dressed her last. Jesus, what a thing to write, but that seems about the sum of it. ...So God knows. ...and I don't envy him that.
@SMF 1 oj was guilty but he got off because they were tampering with his already incrimitnating evidence. He would of got convicted but they screwed with it an it back fired.
3 likesI found on Wikipedia "Cindy Anthony testified that their family buried their pets in blankets and plastic bags, using duct tape to seal the opening." Her family protected her despite the slander. Insanity...
4 likes@axie yeah, and she kept the body of her doughter in the trunk for days, ok 👍
1 like@Certified Goat " if her daughter really had drowned she wouldnt be out partying and saying shes been happier than ever in her journal"
3 likesOf course she would. In fact that's the most revealing thing about her personality. She just lost a big ball and chain that was around her neck (in her mind) pulling her down to having to take responsibility. She was finally "free" again to party as much as she wanted after 3 years. Of course she would.
You can't possibly think that a compulsive liar - and I dare to say it, psycho - would have normal feelings about their child.
I mean it is Florida, why be surprised?
5 likes@Jesse P. Watson wow 😳 a whole fucking script
0 likesWow
@Jesse P. Watson yeah, i agree, that makes more sense. i didn't know the full facts of the story.
0 likesagain, the only thing it's lacking is a motive, unless she's simply crazy.
@Marco Gardini Casey obviously did it, but someone keeping the body of a deceased could just be scratched off as a coping mechanism or grieving.
0 likes@Fluffy Little Bear I beg to differ.
0 likes@Biggy Boris defense lawyers are important for a justice system, doesnt matter how fucked up someone is, if you want to put them in prison they need a fair trial which is the job of the defense attorney.
0 likes@axie the motive is that she didn’t want her child or the responsibility of her child seems pretty clear to me she’s clearly a narcissist to her the child was bringing her down
4 likes@axie I feel like even if she “freaked out” she wouldnt have been so damn evil about it later she is NOT upset if she knew her child drowned alone in a pool which probably took her as long to die as it would’ve if she suffocated her, she would be so upset after they found her and if her daughter had just fell in she would’ve been less secretive about telling them where she was. She waited an entire month and was seen at parties, hanging out with friends, being cool as hell about the whole thing. That little girl was definitely murdered whether she did it or not she was involved in it and in the cover up.
0 likesThe_Almighty_Jack It’s illogical that a mother who’s child just died from “drowning” due to being “abducted” would go party hard for the next month. May be that’s just me or people are just cold bIooded.
1 likeI think the lawyer did well. So many innocent people get charge every year, and without lawyers like this they get sent to jail. This is one of the misfortune cases where the defense did too good. It happens. No Justice system is 100% foolproof. Her life is ruined anyway. Good luck holding down a respectable well paying job after all the media coverage. She clearly did it. She’s ruined.
4 likes@KB i forgot to add “….while she went out partying and making body contests”
0 likes@Biggy Boris Slimy lawyer? That guy did his job immaculately, I would love to have him defending me, whether I did something wrong or not. That guy was as emotionally invested in the outcome as Casey was. When they hugged after the verdicts were read, Casey was ecstatic thinking about the freedom she had just won, and Jose was ecstatic thinking of the frankly deserved career boost he just got from winning this case, the product of which we can see when we look at his career after the Casey trial. The man went from a nobody-at-law to being handed high-profile cases left and right including one for a billion dollar hedge fund (which he also won). You can say he is slimy for defending Casey, but not only are attorneys are out for their own benefit (which necessarily aligns with their client's), they also have a responsibility to defend their clients as exhaustively as they possibly can, regardless of what they might personally believe; to do any less would be truly slimy and would be a disservice to our criminal justice system. The prosecution should have done better, and the media should have been less involved, there are many things to be learned from this outcome.
3 likesSickening yeah
0 likes@Chicken Norris those were just typos ah you silly! Haha
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@Fluffy Little Bear I intended to compare pathological liars.
1 like@Fluffy Little Bear I'm thinking some of the lies might have been made up by the lawyer himself. That would be slimy. Hard to say, although he must have known her to be guilty.
1 likeIt's so fucking disgusting. If anyone looked at the evidence alone it would so obvious that casey was guilty. But because the defense lawyer was so much better, the jury made their decision against all common sense. This case was not about justice, it was about who had the better lawyer. Same thing with oj tbh. How the fuck do they allow shit like this to happen.
1 likewhat do you think i am watching this for lul
1 like@Biggy Boris if i was her lawyer i wouldnt have backed her case idc about the money
0 likesThey did not find duct tape over the baby's mouth, that is false information. Only found was a skeleton, duct tape was near the body and they assumed it was over the mouth, but all the soft tissue was gone so the duct tape could not have been attached to bone.
0 likes@Jesse P. Watson I'm sorry for your struggle, nightmare!!!
0 likesI was in the similar situation with my own... mother. (She was alcoholic than.)
What I would like to share with you is:
1. An advice: what do you think about founding the sociopath lawyer against her and just let the two creatures to have their own battles?
I bet that if you already have an lawyer it's as HONEST accurate person AS YOU, right? MISTAKE! I think honest ppl are already lost in battle against vampires. Hire a vmpire against a vampire, not the gold hearted human like yourself.
I assume you lost loads of money on that case and you're not into investing more in the next lawyer BUT you also mentioned that you already prepared youself to loose the case. So I advice you to consider again whether the math is for : get the vampire against her and PTSD therapy for yourself, or for: f*** it, just stary working over new home and totally different relationship with totally different woman (PTSD therapy still advised. I got deep depression AFTER almost 2 YEARS after leaving the hell with my mother behind.) (Ps. My mom got cured from alcoholism. I still didn't get cured from depression!!)
Good luck!!! You deserve all the best as honest, sensitive person (but unfortunately life's a bitch exactly as your ex.)
2. I am a woman and feminist so let me be an advocate on the stereotype you mentioned in the end. Yes, nowadays some women are as tough as other predators [men]. But please consider HUNDREDS of years of the history while woman was just nothing. The MAN was everything. In court female sentence was NOTHING against man's sentence. Women couldn't posess houses, bank
accounts without man's agreement, civil rights as voting in elections etc. There are still loads of countries where women cannot go out on the street without men's approoval!! When you consider how this was extreme unjustice FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, than maybe you'll be more forgiving to naive people who are now too much towards females. It's just common psychological feature to be a bit blinded towards previous victims. Some woman are predators as man, but the rest is still much more vulnerable than men. Statistically men are still MUCH more predators than women. The stereotype you mentioned is for their favour, and against honest women... which is unfair. But I totally got your point - you got deeply hurt and friends didn't protect you against the sociopath predator. Trust me, I strongly hate alcoholics now, even if they are just sick people. Just don't let yourself hate females, because it can easily turn against you, your children etc. and society.
ps. I'm not native English speaker, sorry for all the mistakes. If anyone would like to discuss some more on the subject
I would do my best in future to check the spelling and grammar, but now I can't.
If you can't duck it, chuck it
0 likesI took some notes
0 likes@Yelkwood9 Im not arguing the utility of defense attorneys, i understand why they exist and why they are important. Some of them however rub me the wrong way (like this one). Put into words I think it´s something like: Fighting tooth and nail using deceptions and manipulations in order to insure that horrible people evade justice. I find them to be repulsive DESPITE their utility, hence i call lawyers that bring forth said emotions, "slimy". It's a disgust response so the name is quite fitting ;)
1 likeAnd in the latest interview she again had no clue what happened to Caylee. Casey is such a delusional person, that she probably believes her own lies.
0 likes@axie The only problem with that theory is the fact that she looked up multiple suffocation related terms just before the "drowning."
0 likes@Rauminen yeah she doesn’t care about the child but That’s why she suffocated her daughter
0 likes@axie What was written in her diary though definitely makes it out to be purposeful.
0 likesAll put together; it makes more sense that she got fed up being tied down by a kid, or specifically was annoyed by her.
Accidental death doesn’t usually make you write down that you glad you made the decision and go out partying days after.
Like I said, it was as if she wanted to relieve herself from the duty of a parent so she could go out partying and smoke marijuana
EXACTLY
0 likes@vyoufinder are you certain it was before? is it really possible to pinpoint the exact hour that Caylee died?
0 likes@Curiosity Mislead Me yeah, that sounds about right. I had no clue she even had a diary
0 likes@Biggy Boris well basically every lawyer is going to use emotions when a jury is involved, a disconnected robot has little chance of making an impression. Humans are emotional creatures, can't avoid it.
0 likesI hate liars, despise them, and even though karma is a real source. Sometimes karma takes to long.
0 likes@axie +
0 likes@Zmiana Pogody
0 likesThat was a pleasure to read, Zmiana, kind words indeed. I took your thoughts away and ended up writing an essay in response...Thought it about time I got those thoughts in order.
I would have thought you a native speaker if you hadn't said otherwise, your English is better than many an Englishman's ["...Or woman's!"]
You caught me there on a point I do need to be more cautious in framing, which I was not in that instance.
Hmm. The old feminism debate is one which I have found requires caution in translating between Nations... As you're no doubt aware, each Nation has its own history to the battle of the sexes which, though relateable from one culture to another, can carry radically different histories. I only say that as my perspective and issues with 'feminism' relate to contemporary feminism in Northern Europe, mainly that common throughout politically left-leaning women in the UK, Germany and France... Though in reality each of these cultures has produced independent women's liberation movements running on their own timeline with different challenges.
The UK was one of the first nations to put women's rights into law meaning the British Isles hosts one of the longest standing, most 'evolved' women's lib/feminist movements.
As regards the UK, I am in full support of the women's lib movement and its achievements... ... last century.
I think today's feminism however promotes a devisive rhetoric which may do more harm than good. That is if measured against an ideal of promoting unprejudiced, peaceful, mutually respectful relations between the sexes... I do not believe that 'mainstream' feminism, taken as a social movement today, on the whole, promotes life enhancing ethics or beliefs to those under its influence. I don't personally perceive women promoting political feminist agendas as positive role models in British society today.
I think the principles promoted by feminism today are responsible for a great deal of suffering in women and men alike and act now, in this culture, to effectively isolate one sex from the other. My major fault with feminism is that it focuses a womans attention solely on her own status, well-being and 'rights' in relationships with the opposite sex. It encourages constant drawing of comparison (even in intimate settings) and constant manipulation of behaviour of both parties to conform to the political ideals of the movement. It also demonises the act of serving a man, irrespective of whether that is voluntary or done out of mutual care and support. Feminists make serving a man a curse and so demonise perhaps the greatest mutual pleasure of love and the very foundation of caring partnerships. It's tragic
Hmm.
Thing is, I have a strange history with feminism... I'm aware it likely leads such outbursts to be terribly mistranslated. I'm going to attempt to frame my perspective... it's not the kind of story you read everyday in youtube comments, might bring a chuckle even...
My great uncle, Derry, was a Catholic Minister. In the 1960's he had a vision, so the story goes, of the Devine Feminine. So, he declared that God was a woman and refused to hear anything to the contrary. He was excommunicated from the church and so set about burning books with a reference to a male God around his castle, in Ireland. A point too amusing not to mention.
He then, together with my great aunt, founded 'The Fellowship Of Isis', a religion venerating the devine feminine to counteract a perceived dominance of the male patriarchy. They transcribed symbolic elements from ancient Egypt into this creation.. a mystic collage.
A temple was created, charity shops were raided, shrines were decorated. Rituals were invented, unclad lovers danced in circles beneath the moonlight, and meditation commenced. It is known that Mick Jagger once walked up to my great aunt in the garden and she had no idea who he was. It was quite a scene.
I met my great Aunt when she was around 90. She appeared in flowing golden robes, her wild squinting eye sparkling with mischief; The High Priest Of Isis. Believe it or not, she sat beside the Dalhai Llama at a conference of world religious leaders. She died at 100.
My Aunt currently heads the fellowship. My mother, bless her cotton socks, is, amongst other things, a musician and, on occassion, played the organ for our local church when I was younger. She would sing the loudest above the tiny congregation and yell "she" everytime the hymn read "he". It was most amusing, the Church of England priest enjoyed the show and played along.
I was an active feminist aged 6. When other boys said I had a girl's name I'd come back with "YEAH?!? AND WHAT'S WRONG WITH GIRLS?!?" ...Which, thinking about it now, won me the immediate allegiance of the girls and left my adversary lacking a kiss.
...So, reality is, I'm a hypocrit. I've played the feminist victim card myself. ...Now I come to think of it.
...Meheh!
But I've had that vision too. Been held in her arms in the fire light, by a woman that knew me like no other... a lover and a mother all at once. She's appeared in my darkest hours, twice. The last, she appeared just before I left France, walked towards me out of my mind's eye and told me to come home. That time she was a Welsh woman born of forgotten valleys, two soft words; all that was needed.
I am doing my best to live up to her command. Since returning from France I've reimagined the forgotten craft of the Welsh Dragons, the arts af working stone with fire, forgotten arts which raised stone henge and the pyramids, the craft that gave birth to the first civilisations and brought about the ten thousand year, global reign of the world encircling serpent - the snake in the garden of Eden was, you see, Adam's dragon craft, in reality and he carried Eve out of Eden with him, on its mighty wings. This is the craft which eventually led to the sword being pulled from the stone i.e. Arthur, Pendragon - 'the dragonhead'. So I intend to reclaim the legacy of the Pendragon and found a new circle of stone to unite those who come togather to raise it with their long forgotten history, their birth right, the keys to immortality and the kingdom of the Gods... One must have a goal in life.
Yesterday I was stood ln the Street and a bus drove up the road with a picture on the side of a statue in the city square of two women, arms around each other, cast in bronze. The slogan read "Celebrating Sheffield's Women of Steel."
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@Zmiana Pogody (...continued from last comment)
0 likesI was a metal worker for some years, in industry. I never met any women at work. I know that wasn't due to sexism in the metal working industry. Very few women are drawn to work in heavy industry. Heavy industry is a man's world for quite obvious reasons.
I have to admit, I told that bus to fuck off. The bus company is virtue signalling, nothing more. I have a lesbian blacksmith friend, she's quite good, she's cool as fuck. But, fact is, she's an extreme rarity... that's not about to change anytime soon, nor need it. I live in Steel City, it is built on Steel. Millions of men worked their fingers to the bone in providing for their women folk here over the past century, they built the city, they put knives and forks on the tables of the world, stainless steel was invented here. However, today, what is placed in the city centre to mark that history? A statue of two women promoting an extremely unusual historical instance when they took to working in the steel industry to make ammunitions whilst their sons and husbands fought two of the bloodiest wars in history. Women think its a great statue, obviously.
I arrived in this city in 2019. After a year I was known throughout the music scene in the city, a drummer. I played countless jam nights etc. By the end of a year I was acquainted with all the regulars.
...And something I saw in those places, and all throughout the city became very hard to ignore... Though I'd played in the same stage as them, almost weekly, sometimes backing them, the majority of the women joining that scene would not say hello or acknowledge the fact that we knew each other. Though I was well known, well liked and never showed any signs of being remotely threatening, they would commonly react to a casual greeting as if responding could potentially cause an episode of sexual harrasment. On a daily basis I found women turning their backs to avoid the risk of acknowledgment - this while in freindly public venues surrounded by friends and known individuals.
This atmosphere has got radically worse over recent years and is now the norm here. Walk down a street as a man in Britain today and there's a constant flow of women passing by who are very intently not acknoledging our presence, look to them with a smile and they quickly bow their heads or look the other way, scared victims - nothing about it remotely resembles a culture of 'strong women'. Reality is: they've never been safer nor better protected.
This all-pervading fear of men appears largely due to the ever increasing influence of the contemporary social justice media machine, the #metoo movement serving to persuade young women that all men are potential abusers, power crazed and definitely not remotely like women. This switch emerges from Marxist privelage rhetoric - moving from "lets all try to treat everyone the same" to "All [insert demographic] are opressors by nature, we're victims by birth, if you say we're not you're the enemy!"
So, I think its very important to divide women's political and civil liberation movements with contemporary feminism in countries where women already have all the same rights as men (and more in the UK) and today make up a large proportion of the most protected, privileged individuals on the planet.
In these countries, I think its time feminists shut-up about themselves and learned to treat their fathers, lovers, husbands and sons with the respect they are due. ...Because, the truth is, though it may be shameful to say... if men really did create this world as feminism insists, perhaps feminists should show a little gratitude for it... because the reality is, were it not for the help of their men, women today would be giving birth in the cold without a fire to warm themselves or a bed to sleep in... there'd be no parliament to put their rights into law and they'd definitely not be floating through the stars beside us on the ISS.
But, credit where it's due is something feminists do not do - though they continually demand to be credited for being a woman - irrespective of history, ability, skill, experience or intellect. Hence, aye, personally speaking, if a girl says she is a feminist to me in the UK today, I take it to mean: "I'm prejudiced against men, I blame men, I'm self obsessed, lacking unifying ethical beliefs, and intend to play the victim whilst placing myself beyond criticism and reporting on the fact that men don't appear respect me, strangely enough."
...That may sound like its aimed at the aforementioned woman but it's a front I've met in countless women throughout my life who claim to be representing feminist rhetoric. Acquaintances, partners, personal friends or family members, the rhetoric seldom changes. The most important point is that feminists generally place their beliefs above criticism which, by default, puts them in absolute command unless one is prepared to be dragged through the dirt for disputing grossly sexist simplifications and selective reasoning.
There are though places where womens liberation didn't happen a century ago. I hope those women take a good look at the realities of England's feminists today and ask themselves if perpetual victimhood is for them.
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...Mmm. Something like that anyway. ;-) ...Something to puzzle over.
Just to say, you yourself did not come across like that, hence my reply. Thanks for your positive support and thoughfulness there.
@Jesse P. Watson You might consider copying that thoughts to the notebook for future reference. Great reading!
0 likesThank you for the opportunity to travel a bit through your worlds. I love such generosity in sharing. And offer the same.
Good that I mentioned my English skills, as I would not add the second paragraph to my comment if I senced such a mindful and original soul already diving into feminist ocean as you, mister.
Hope to be back tomorrow with some reflections :)
@Jesse P. Watson Hi Jesse, thank you for great opportunity to discuss.
0 likesYou descibed an extraordinary history of you highly interesting family – you were raised in respect and sympathy for women, treating them equal to you.
My story is somehow oryginal as well, but from different angle. I have more androgyne approach than most of women and men. For me people are humans in the first place, than they divide by age for kids, middle aged and old, and later they divide by sex. Cisgender people (~90% of humans) see it more like: there are men and women and they together are people. In my opinion sex (or gender) is a secondary factor, in the very first place we are human beings. For cisgendered people gender is a primary factor how they perceive themselves or others.
I’m more human-feminist, than woman-feminist. If we woke up in the world where men are opressed, I would (and I do) fight for men’s favour.
Now, when it comes to your concerns. I agree with you. There are hudge mistakes being made out there. I don’t agree with political movements, I always used to have my own opinions. I see mistakes in my opinions through my life as well. This is why I justify those feminists mistakes and dead ends – nobody’s perfect. Feminism is a reaction to chauvinism. So it’s a reaction to something bad. It’s hard to create a perfect reaction to something bad in the first instance.
I imagine that women on the streets and in the clubs that you described they just have enough of being treated as females only, sexual objects. They want to be treated as you by your colleagues – as a fellow human being.
Imagine the parrarell world when men were perceived by the same factors as women: the look, the sexual attractivness, and the age. I don’t mean sensitive men here who already perceive women as human beings in the first place! I mean those average masculine men, that were raised in the perception, that a woman is somebody totally different than them. I mean the men who want their wifes to be feminine and earn at least a bit less than them only for their ego’s sake. We all know such guys, right? And now imagine the parrarell world when women appreciate mostly 20-30 years old guys, with penises 20+ cm, and earning less than them. HOW would you feel?
You walk the street and women look at your fly in pants. You come to work and you see mostly female bosses hunging out with their female coworkers talking about that hot new male receptionist. They may not admit that, but they think men are a bit stupid. Thanks to God, that men are at least attractive!
Of course I made the picture grotesque.
Are you truly surprised that younger “women on the streets” are afraid to be treated the same way?
I agree that the natural, spiritual, healthy, desired energy flow between man and woman is different than the picture I descibed. But who’s fault it is that it was perverted?
Everybody like to see loads of stuff as women’s fault. Only that the women's faults scale does not match the men's faults scale at all!
Even in this case of Casey Anthony. She is called the most hated woman in America. Most of the comments are that she is pure evil. What about Green River Killer who killed 49 women? What about Ted Bundy? Golden State Killer? And hundreds of murderers and rapists among whom over 90% are men. All of those fathers who killed their children and wifes? All those pedophiles? If Casey Anthony is a pure evil, who were them?
I think that the anger against feminists are similar to this phenomenom descibed above! Chauvinists made a hell for millions of woman. For hundreds of years. There are places where it's going on without any significant stop. There is NO OPTION any even very perverted feminism would do anything even slightly comparable to what was done to females by males.
Don’t get me wrong – I see all mistakes of our contemporary society, including perverted womens liberation movements. But how come that so many ppl blame women in the first instance? And when some women (me including) do the same mistake blaming men for all problems of the world, (which I hope I proved is a bit more historically accurate) why can’t you just justice this emotional mistake?
Maybe... because you're hurt? I am hurt. I see where it comes from in my case. We all need to recover.
I hope your higly interesting job will heal you, and your music. When I was looking where we start our comments, I found that you post some videos as well and I will follow your channel with fingers crossed for your good luck. I didn't seen any yet, but hope to have occassion for some more interesting topics to be discussed in the future :)
She should be very scared for her life after this…
0 likesCouldn't you just argue this in every single case?
0 likesWhat I believe is her boyfriend did it that is why she was able to act noncholeant about by telling herself in her head that she didn't do it and continued to be calm. Also that's why she wanted to talk to him only. She seemed so rude to her parents. Her reactions on the phone she knew the child was gone. She knows what happened at the very least. Mom said the car smelled like a dead body. Did they not investigate that immideatly? I didn't here anything about that. She also knew the child wasn't far cause like I said she moved her body or she knew where it was. Blatantly obvious by the first phone call that she didn't want police on her trail for as long as possible. The defense team is sick. How can you willingly defense someone like her. Think about it like this she lied about the nanny lied about the people she told lied about working wherever not knowing anyone number lack of remorse lack of effort to find the child. She's the mom so if there was no nanny she knew where the child was seen last. When the child was last alive who did it and how. Even if she didn't do and got her bf to do it she deserves to rot in prison either way.
0 likesthis channel is a gem dude
0 likesNetflix needs to run this video unchallenged as a part 2 of the Tinder Swindler. This is so much worse.
0 likesHer daughter is disappeared and she called 911after one months. I'm worried caused by this jury. Don't expects from humans
1 likeCant believe she got away with it
0 likesThat defense attorney is an s-tier attorney, but an f-tier person.
1 likeWith all of these details how the hell did she not get found guilty?
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The defense had a better lie than the prosecutions truth. Unfortunately.
0 likesShe should have one to jail for the death of her child, but she got away with it. She will answer to God for it.
0 likes"and Caylee's buried somewhere, or in a trash can somewehere..." He mentions it like he has experienced it.
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He talks about doing 2 years in homicide before moving to the abused children division which he worked for a few years before this case... so he probably has. 💔
0 likesThere is a Juliette Louis, only she is an actor in the same union I am part of lol. This Casey was so messed in the head believing she would get away with it. She is sick and a monster.
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*Juliet Lewis - totally different name.
0 likesShe’s cold. On top of all the other heartless things. She don’t even know her boyfriends phone number? Hey kids you better know your peoples #’s
0 likesIf prosecutors never moved for the death penalty, Casey would rightfully be rotting in her cell.
0 likesshe may had been evaluated as not being Crazy Psychologically. but that doesn’t mean she isn’t Evil most especially for any Parent to be responsible or so Cold Blooded over their own Child
0 likesShe learned to lie from her mother.
0 likesThat smile, although perfect, is terrifying.
0 likesThe fact she got away with it
0 likesThat's one kick ass la
0 likesThat''s one kick ass lawyer, but she's as guilty as OJ.
Did she lie to her attorneys too?
0 likes"Just under 5 months after she was reported missing" so 4 months after she should have been gotcha.
0 likesDefendant not guilty? Wtf this is unbelievable
0 likes20:26 DET - WHO HID HER FROM YOU FOR 5 WEEKS? CASEY - YES! 👁👄👁
0 likesHer father bribed a jury member
0 likesHere's my take. I firmly believe the biggest mistake that the prosecution made was making it a death penalty case. Cindy Anthony was torn between wanting to protect her daughter and wanting justice for Caylee. I believe that the death penalty tipped her over the edge, she simply couldn't stomach the thought of Casey Anthony, her daughter, being lethally injected. So she lied on the stand, and said that it was her, not Casey, who'd been googling "Chloroform."
269 likesBesides that, it is a statistical fact that women, especially photogenic white women, almost never get the death penalty. The death penalty being on the table probably made the jury much less likely to convict than they otherwise would have been. Juries don't seem to have any problem with sentencing people to life without parole, but the death penalty makes them a lot more queasy and more hesitant to actually pull the trigger.
The prosecution made it a death penalty case because they were hoping it would for force Jose Baez to back out, because they believed he wasn't qualified to hand a death penalty case. They assumed that he'd urge Casey to plead guilty as soon as the death penalty was threatened. Boy, were they ever wrong about that. Baez turned out to be the absolute best defender that Casey could have gotten.
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I completely agree. They should have known her parents were pushovers, Casey had been manipulating them her whole life.
38 likesThe death penalty does not help anyone.
13 likesI agree, except one part... There are photogenic black women that can obtain a good defense lawyer.
3 likes@Dr Guck it does help. It helps me.
4 likes@Dr Guck eh... yes it does...it helps everybody in civilised society by giving us the knowledge that theres one less psycho in the world that we need to worry about....
10 likesineedmoney121 that’s what prison is for. No need to kill a criminal, especially when they might be innocent.
1 likeThis is why I'm glad there is no death penalty in my country. It removes the possibility of jurors secondguessiny going through with a guilty convinction. Life without parole is the cheaper and more pragmatic option, no amount of blind emotions and thirst for vengeance will mute that fact.
2 likesGood comment
2 likesKeeping murderers alive to murder again doesn't help anyone......
0 likes@Dr Guck That's bs, it cost a nurse and officer their life with this logic. People with families have to be responsible for them.
0 likes@Calvo Tama What about the people they kill and injure while in custody? Cheaper? It costs the lives of innocence. A serial murderer / rapist that should have been dead raped and killed his guard then fled and was later captured.
1 like@Alyssa Aurora Yeah that sucks the guard died but that happens less than wrongful convictions. Do you have anything to say about the insane amounts of innocent people killed by the death penalty who were found innocent after the fact?
2 likes@Calvo Tama They can murder other inmates while in prison though. I'm not making an argument one way or the other, but you saying that they can't murder again is wrong.
0 likes@Alyssa Aurora More innocent people with families are murdered through the death penalty than the amount who are murdered by escapees
2 likes@Alyssa Aurora It's a question of which do you find more egregious I guess.
0 likesso you think she's photogenic huh XD
0 likesAlyssa Turnbill not if we can throw the murderer in jail, preventing him from murdering again while simultaneously preventing the chance of murdering an innocent man and stopping jurors from convicting criminals based on they’re reluctance to sentence someone to death.
1 likeAlyssa Turnbill I feel terrible for the nurse and doctor, but they are outweighed by the number of people who have been sentenced to death, only to be proven innocent after they were murdered
2 likes@Calvo Tama How did you come to that conclusion? What are the number of innocent people executed? How did you calculate that number? And what is the number of people killed by escapees? And how did you find that number? Thanks.
1 like@0000 of course I would, wouldn't you? If there's a God's given chance - you grab it with both hands!
0 likesRight? That lawyer is a fuckin genius
2 likes@Dr Guck do you think I should reconsider my position on the death penalty?
0 likes@Calvo Tama "life without parole is the cheaper option"
3 likesa syringe with a lethal dose of KCl is like $30, and that's for the medical grade stuff
4 rounds of .308, plus one blank, is less than $0.50
Death row inmates tend to spend at least a decade in prison before their sentence is carried out which adds a lot to the cost though
@Calvo Tama That's because we baby them too much. They get 3 meals, room and board, better healthcare than many. It's not exactly something to fear. Soooo yeah.
1 like@Calvo Tama I'll just use your logic. Oh well it sucks but hey, it happens.
0 likes@Calvo Tama Oh BS, that's just a straight up lie.
0 likes@Dr Guck He dropped a nurse and officer month apart. That's not preventing him from murdering again. It's babying him so he can try again when he's ready.
0 likes@Dr Guck We have better forensics now than we had 40 years ago. If we know without a shadow of a doubt they need the punishment they offered their victim.
0 likes@Reichstreu Study by the national academy of sciemces says 4% of people on death row are innocemt. In your country as far as I remember about 170 people have been found innocent and exonerated from death row since 1973 alone. Separately, since that year 1522 people have been executed, 4% of which is roughly 60-61 innocence more than likely executed [1522 x (4/100)] . In contrast, the amount of escapees from maximum security where all the murderers are sent is so low that for example - from 2009 to 2013 there was literally 1 escape. So do you forsake the lives of the 4% of innocents murdered by your government in case 1 or 2 people escape and maybe kill someone. Idk it's why this issue is controversial and rightly so, but prefer the utilitarian option here.
1 like@Alyssa Aurora I'll refer you to my most recent comment, all the available facts and evidence points to the death penalty killing more innocents than prospective escapees.
0 likes@Calvo Tama This isn't 1973, we have better tools at our disposal.
0 likes@Alyssa Aurora If you don't care about all those people who are wrongfully murdered by the US government that's your perogative but this is why I and most people from other Western countries do not condone snuffing out the lives of people who have done nothing wrong.
0 likes@Calvo Tama "available facts" lol .......smh
0 likes@KingHalbatorix On the matter of the lethal injection, if you guys are gonna execute people it should be done with a firing squad at the very least instead. Lethal injection is botched too often because it's not administered by medical professionals, leading to excruciating drawn out death. I can stomach the thought of that happening to the murderers who diednthis way, but the statistics I relayed in a previous comment here asserts that this was the fate of dozens of innocent people. That doesn't sit right to me, just my opinion
0 likes@Calvo Tama Oh get over yourself. Just because I don't condone babying a serial child rapist for life because something bad happened a lot back in the 70's doesn't make me supportive of wrongful convictions. This is now, that was then. If guilt is known without a reasonable doubt, they should share the fate of their victims. Their victims had a death penalty with no evidence, no trial and and execution of their assailants choice.
1 likeEven though I disagree with a few of you here, I'm glad we can have this discourse. It needs to be talked about more in your society I feel
1 like@Alyssa Aurora No you misread, that wasn't the year this all happened this has been SINCE 1973 up until NOW in the US They weren't keeping record of the amount of innocent people killed beforehand, which would dramatically increase the number of people wrongfully executed throughout all of HISTORY
0 likes@Alyssa Aurora You are willfully ignoring that 1 in 25 people on death row currently is INNOCENT this is my entire point
0 likes@DangerDan Exactly, they can kill other inmates, nurses, doctors, officers, and many other types of people that have to be near them. Like I tried explaining, more people are killed and/or injured than whatever study this person is referencing.
1 like@Calvo Tama I didn't willfully ignore anything, if you read it again, you'll see I said if we know without a shadow of doubt. Also being innocent and being exonerated are very different things. This is a topic for a different time. I want to talk about people who we know with zero question are guilty. (This is my entire point) For instance, if a man walks into a mall and kills 42 people, should he share the same penalty as a woman who killed her husband?
1 likeAlyssa Turnbill again this one awful circumstance doesn’t really hold a candle to all the people who were executed under false pretenses. And ya forensic technology is better than it ever has been, but 50 years ago forensic technology was better than it ever had been until that point. And yet this shit still happened.
1 like@Dr Guck again this isn't one circumstance, it holds more of a candle than you know because I work in it. Several months ao two guards got their heads stomped in by a dirtbag that shouldn't be getting treated better than the homeless in Ca. (that's a story for another time). That's a bs argument, so should we base all our decisions on the salem witch trials and ignore today's forensics? lol well I mean that was what they had then and look what happened. Oh wow. my sides.
0 likesAlyssa Turnbill well hopefully the convict in this story was in prison for a crime that warranted a death sentence because obviously that story is irrelevant to the conversation otherwise. But even if he was, the prison industrial complex is a shithole that breeds and necessitates violence within its confines, so again, not really relevant. And before you say that calling prisons as they exist shitholes is contradictory to my argument so far, we can eliminate the death penalty while simultaneously fixing the prisons.
1 likeNicely said
0 likes@Dr Guck fck eliminating the death penalty, if you can dish out the death penalty on someone, why can't you receive it? Why should a serial killer get special treatment his/her victim wasn't entitled to have?
0 likesReminds me of the press secretary Psaki... all the hand jesters and redirection
0 likesThe real life Saul Goodman
0 likesWhy Netflix has not giving you an offer?!?! Your stuff is wayyyyyyy better then a lot of documentaries on TV.
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Because he a triple og cuz know I’m saying?
20 likesI agree. You really do and you should be compensated for your efforts. I just don’t want to line Netflix’s pockets.
7 likesIt doesn’t really fit the Netflix documentary style. Still good but wouldn’t do good on Netflix.
15 likesIt's better because he's solo. An individual content creator. Netflix is a company, he would have to and abide by the way Netflix wants it. Not our man here. I like that he's on YouTube by himself doi g what he wants and intends it to be. It's come out amazing bad better in my opinion then any Netflix series could have. Its straight to the point, and gives us what we want to see and hear! Like the actual full on interviews instead of some narrator sumerizing it in 5 min. Plus why do Netflix when it's here already?
22 likesNo, Netflix would ruin it
15 likesWhy would you want to pay for something that it's already free on YouTube.
4 likes@Joseph Harding I'm pretty sure it's not "solo" but a team of people, making these videos.
0 likes@Ghost No “ Cuties “ is what fits Netflix weird criteria better. Who would watch Netflix programmes, documentaries or films after they showed a film like Cuties? Netflix are a disgusting company and I wouldn’t want this channel associated with them
1 like@Bimmers & BBW's Very true indeed. Elisa Lam’s accidental death is a prime example of it. Netflix literally dragged a drowning accident into a 4 one hour episode mini series titled: The Vanishing of the Cecil Hotel. I was so disappointed after I finish watching. 😂🤣😂🤣
1 likeHell no, Netflix would make it politically correct.
1 likeNetflix doesn't deserve this type of content. It's too good for them
1 like@Ghost i agree: true crime tv shows force a fabricated narrative in order to give the feeling that the events are plot points and the victims and perps are characters. this doesn't do justice to the true events and cheapens the experience of learning about real criminal pathology.
0 likesjust look at how netflix left out the part about tiger joe being an adamant white nationalist and added fabricated oversimplifications about how Carroll runs her non-profit, saying the 'colored shirts' were like a cult. Guarantee if you volunteer at any other nice animal shelter, they ALSO have tiered, colored t-shirts to help keep newer people out of dangerous areas.
this robs the audience of the experience of true human corruption and teaches the false idea that real life is just like a fable or bed time story with clear right and wrong.
@just a racoon chilling in a toilet he also doesn't pad for time because some episodes are an hour, some are 16 minutes. he uses the material he's gathered and his own commentary and if that turns into an hour, that's what you get. on TV shows, they always have to fill exactly the same amount of time whether the story is a 2 minute story or a 5 hour story.
0 likes@MarkAR no he’s a double g triple og u fee me
0 likesAnd every person on that jury will burn in hell for what they let go by
0 likesSo jefferey saying she lied ab all that and she still was found not guilty??
0 likesThe judge looks like hes napping hahah
0 likesthat Mason guy and the other lawyer should rot in jail along with Casey
0 likesSo Casey didn't graduate high school but her parents pretended she did. Didn't her classmates or other family wonder why she wasn't at the high school graduation?
0 likesI am completely astonished! But I tell you one thing, I need that defence lawyer next time I'm in shit I tell you. He earnt his money that day fucking hell.
0 likesWhat an absolute miscarriage of justice. A disgrace.
0 likesI am constantly baffled about what is legal in the US. Questioning a suspect without a lawyer, questioning a suspect without informing them that they are a suspect, listening in on phone calls, observing jail visits, it's a bit like easy mode for the police there.
2 likesWhat a true monster.
0 likesWhattttttttttt
3 likesTheeeeeeee
Fuckkkkkkkk
Is this real life, she was found not guilty ????????
29:56 classic slip up. Taking in past tense.
0 likesI hope someday to meet this mommy, and give her what the State couldn't.......
0 likesSo she’s in prison for life right???
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No. She's charged "not guilty" which is totally insane
0 likesI'm not suggesting Casey's parents caused her to murder their granddaughter, but they weren't good parents at all. It's a lot more difficult disciplining your kids and enforcing the rules, rather than letting them slide. Like the graduation party. Ignoring what she did and proceeding with the party is a lot easier than having to call all your guests and cancel everything. If you wanna raise a kid the right way, be an adult and be their parent, not their best friend. Parenting, even if you're divorced is a team effort, good cop bad cop. Half the bad stuff my kids do is hysterical, and I did the same stuff, but you don't let them know that. You don't have to scream or yell, you're job is simply to set the rules, communicate the consequences and enforce them. It's honestly not that difficult.
0 likesi feel like committing manslaughter after watching this
1 likeWho payed for her lawyer? Or was it pro bono either way they helped set a child murderer free
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She was sleeping with the prosecution lawyer. Not long after the trial they moved in together. That's probably why she got off.
0 likesTrying to improvise an essay be like:
0 likesHow the fuck did she get away with this...?
0 likesZenaida Fernandez Gonzalez sounds like the fakest Spanish name I’ve ever heard, lol, it sounds like someone who doesn’t speak Spanish made up a name similar to what they see on tv when they make fun of Spanish names lol. It still baffles me that she was judged innocent, they had more than a mountain of damning evidence and proved that she cannot be trusted in any capacity, it just blows my mind
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That's actually my mother's name 😂
1 likeso Casey's parents didn't just overlook her pathological lying but actually celebrated and encouraged it without consequences.
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they're hey parents and they tried to protect her, like a normal human would. Don't blame the parents on this one
12 likes@twitterienne i'm talking about the graduation and how they responded to her lies. You think their response to her lies is justified? Any regular parent would have gone to the school n inquired about the mix up in her schedule. Overlooking n actually celebrating her misdemeanors definitely made her think she could get away with bigger things
91 likes@Asha Isadass pretty sure if she was over 18 then legally they wouldn’t be able to disclose any information without her consent.
4 likes@Kane What?? Disclose information about what? When they got the letter from her school that she isn't graduating and they questioned her - to which she said "her schedule got mixed up" and that's it. These parents don't tk any action but in fact lie to relatives and throw her a "fake" graduation party. How do u justify that?
33 likes@Asha Isadass right, I'm a college student, and my school can't disclose any information about my grades or anything without my explicit consent. Because I'm an adult. Even if they're paying for shit, I get explicit control over what anyone else is able to see about my grades or anything. It's not like high school. If she's an adult, she gets control over that kinda shit.
1 like@Kane I'm saying this for the 3rd time - them literally lying to the relatives n throwing her a fake graduation party- parents reaction isn't normal.
29 likes@Asha Isadass okay, I didn't say anything about or against that. You said "any regular parent would have gone to the school and inquired", that's what I was responding to. They wouldn't have been able to get any information. I don't think their reaction was normal, obviously they've been enabling her her entire life. But they couldn't just go to the school and demand to see her transcripts or records or anything without her explicit consent.
1 like@Kane So if she was missing her school so much that she didn't even have attendance to graduate wouldn't the school have contacted her parents earlier? N she would've been a minor at that point.
3 likes@Asha Isadass I'm not going through the video again to check but I seriously, seriously doubt she was a minor. If you wanna give me a timestamp saying otherwise go for it. But I don't believe it rn. And no, they wouldn't if she were in college. It isn't like high school. They have zero obligation to inform anyone else besides the adult attending, why would they when she's a legal adult? That's a total invasion of privacy.
1 like@Kane ummm, they r talking about senior in HIGH-SCHOOL. The SCHOOL contacted her parents that she wouldn't be graduating cos of her truancy. 🤦🏻♀️
13 likes@Asha Isadass ah yeah you right, i thought it was her senior year of college. That really doesn't make sense lol.
0 likesParents helped mold her the person she is now.
12 likes@MWF helped a lot!!!!
1 like@twitterienne what... what about their grandkid..... normal parents dont support murderers...
1 like@Mindblow exactly!!
0 likes@twitterienne You believe in consequences actions? Why should a parent have to defend a murderer
0 likes@Arian Grant lmao gtfo
0 likes@Asha Isadass exactly! The fact that they knew SHE DIDN’T GRADUATE! But threw her a graduation party anyway, to show an illusion to family... tells you how enabling they are, and no better than her! The apple truly does not fall far from the tree! Ughh
5 likesShe was 8months pregnant and they told the entire family she had a ovarian cyst lmao
2 likes@twitterienne her parents are the reason she's like that. they enabled her
3 likes@Kane Colleges can’t disclose info but high schools certainly can
0 likesThey were in extreme denial about her sociopathic tendencies.
1 likeyou can tell she was never told no growing up and ran her parents
3 likesHer mother was highly suspicious of her from the get-go you can see this in there talking on the phone and in the 911 call
2 likes@Mindblow facts bro
0 likesI have seen families with this dynamic and it's very very dangerous. The parents are just as sick as the person (usually their own child) as the person who did the harmful acts. The parents justify it and enable it to no end. How do you think they got so sick, even to become a cold murderer to get what they want?? Easy...they learned from the best..their parents.
0 likesHow she got off is mind blowing.
1 likewhat upsets me is how much emotion she shows with her father, how much he cares for her, and then she accuses him of molesting her. that seriously upsets me.
2248 likesedit : wow i did not expect anyone to even see this haha, but reading the replies i definitely think it could have happened, but casey was also intensely manipulative and deceitful. i guess we will never really know.
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Exactly!
36 likesShe couldn't look her parents in the eye.
74 likesIdk...on one hand she got away w murder...but on the other hand the murder was her child...but in the OTHER hand she’s seen as one of the most disgusting and evil people in the world to pretty much everyone who followed the case so I really don’t know why she would be happy in any sort of way
47 likesMe to.
2 likesYeah that must have been an awkward ride home.
44 likesEmotion she shows? She barely reacted to his words, just fake crying and then on to another subject.
19 likesThat’s my thoughts too like wtf?
7 likesFalse reactions!
6 likesI'm convinced he abused her.
10 likesNever thought about how she became this way? Her father saying: "I was not a good father." Why would he say that? The parents cover up things in a strange way, telling people their daughter graduated, when she has not. What else did they cover up? I do not know, you do not know. But it would not surprise me if he did molest her.
40 likes@Volker Puttmann His Daughter was in jail for the potential murder of her own Daughter, yeah I think I'd be blaming myself too if that happened. Them covering up for her was an attempt at being good parents because they probably believed her to be telling the truth, perhaps he is also reflecting on those parts and considering that he was wrong to do so.
42 likes@Volker Puttmann Any parent blame themselves for their son when they are in trouble, don`t be silly.
13 likesLike any parent ho has an addicted son`s, would say they`ve not done enough for them.
I`ve seen this many times, and tha`s why any parent would say that.
@Si Jo He did not.
5 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!!
5 likesShe don't know what emotions are, complete lack of empathy
3 likes@RmX yet she knows it is a lie stratrategicly made by her lawyer, she may not have empathy towards anyone but herself, but knows its a lie, like she did misleading the whole investigation and laughinh about it
1 likeI wouldn't doubt for a moment of the father's absolute innocence IF they haven't encouraged her lies. They threw a freaking fake party to deceive a bunch of people ffs! And that's just what we know about, things like this don't happen out of nowhere, I bet all their life revolved around appearances and this came natural to them. So I'm not blaming him but I can't say he's 100% innocent, they helped create this monster, and I bet their relationship is screwed up in many levels, that's where her emotion comes from.
6 likes@Kal P where, when, any link,
5 likes@Kal P absolute BS mate found Casey Anthony part 2 here
2 likes@Anthony Hill How many hands are there bro?
0 likesWe can't even tell if thats true or not either way. Cuz both her parents could've just pretended that the father never did that to her, which would be teaching her what she's so good at which is lying. Imagine being a young child just molested and then the next day you go to mom and she doesnt acknowledge any part of that what so ever. Thats teaching her how to ignore reality as well.
3 likesi think the parents excepted that casey was lying and they were prepared to allow here to say anything to get way with it who knows they might have known from day one and helped to cover it up
0 likes@Kal P where did he say? Can you link it
1 likeI have no doubt she killed her child and also that she wasd molested by her father at a point. Lot of victims become emotionally dependent of the abuser, specially when it’s a family member that close. Nonetheless, it’s ridiculous she is walking free these days.
1 likeYet they still stood by her??? How can you justify those accusations.
2 likes@Maria Priest-Whitly I don’t think you can explain crazy. And to be honest I think that entire family is not well in the head, at least what I consider “well”.
1 likeI was close to vomit when I heard this BS.
0 likes@Priscilla🏳️⚧️ what is wtf
0 likesJust saying: there is something really weird about Casey’s and her dad’s relationship. I’m not even suggesting that that could mean abuse tho, but didn’t anyone else find the way he greeted her when she was in jail really strange? I have never heard a father greet his daughter by saying “Her gorgeous”. I had to go back and watch that part again because I doubted what I had heard first. If he said “hey beautiful” or “hey sweetie”, that wouldn’t probably make me think anything of it, but “hey gorgeous”?? It sounded as if he saw a girl he knew from Hooters or something. And then what happened next is also weird. Casey covered her face and half-jokingly mentioned how unattractive she must look at that moment. What a strange interaction between a father and his daughter. Talking about her looks? Casey is a psychopath in my opinion. No one but a psychopath could lie like she did. That comes from somewhere. You don’t have a normal, happy childhood and end up doing what we all know she did. Something in her background was messed up. We may have seen a little peek into the strangeness when her dad greeted her like she was a girl he wished he could have an affair with.
4 likesI mean, maybe he did.
1 like@Volker Puttmann Abusers don't typically say things like that, though. That actually makes me think he didn't XD
1 likeAn ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE for these poor parents-grandparents. Pure evil.
0 likesAs a victim of molestation at a young age. It could have been happening. the prosecution fucked the whole case up
0 likesEven if she had a fucked up childhood it doesn't excuse the death of one's own child and lying about who was taking care of her for a month. When she talked to her parents she didn't bring up her own kid, her parents had to do that, her best friend had to do that, yet she just treated that subject like it was a bad final exam.
3 likesdo whatever you can to get out of jail, even through your family under the bus. She only ever loved herself in this world, the way she's so dejected on the jail phone call even with her best friend is just bewildering
2 likes@Anthony Hill u
0 likesand it didn’t even happen . was gonna say lucky dad!!
0 likes@Michael Lacoste heyooo!
0 likeswe cannot totally discount her allegations out of hand
2 likesBut whatever happened in her childhood - it does not make it okay to kill Kaylee and cover up her dead body.
@bella g i was abused and the police would not take testimony as i was "too young." so not all abusers end up being reported. he is still free and able to be around children to this day because they didn't see me as able to give testimony. i was 6. i still remember.
0 likesShe googled “foolproof strangulation” techniques, but unless we have a video of her on strangling the kid posted online, we can’t convict her? I think my jury position would have been different.
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Crazy to me cause the only evidence they used on Chris Benoit was a google search
15 likesThis is one huge example of sexism, the amount of sympathy they get means that if even a single juror starts to get sympathetic everyone follows suit because they are afraid of being seen as bullying a woman. The defense brought forth completely fabricated accusations of sexual assault and that was all they had to do, they had already won after that. The judge should be jailed for allowing literal lies to be brought forth as evidence.
22 likes@D U I saw a video in which a law school performed some kind of test on its students. They would present them a real case (idk like murder or something like that) and then they would show a picture of the ''authors'' of the crime. Long short story, pretty girls would get a medium of 12 years less of prison than ''ugly'' girls and 34 years less of prison than men in general; good looking men would also get a couple fewer years compared to ''ugly'' men. Apart from that, it's kinda creepy and twisted to think how the attorney (I get that is what his job is about) made up such a complex dialog to persuade the judges away from the real punishment the accused should've received, which in my opinion should've been isolation for the rest of her miserable life. What a twisted fuck you gotta be to murder your own child and lie about it.
11 likesI’ve googled weirder things
3 likes@D U They see a women crying and think theres no way she could murder her child. Guarantee you if that was a man and everything was the exact same that man would've been sentenced to death or life in prison
5 likesBy the by I think it was suffocation but yea you got it
0 likes@KH_QFT no, she messed up by not reporting her child missing but I guess there's a lot of people as smart as the jury...
0 likes@Miquel Batlle Well Casey Anthony isn't the most attractive of women...although she does carry herself well.
0 likes@KH_QFT you don’t know my life
0 likes@montana french Oh so it DID happen to you too?
0 likesYou know, there is such a thing as statistical reasoning. If the rate of people over 200 IQ is 1 in 100 million for example, and I assume some nobody on Youtube has an IQ below that, it's still a pretty good deduction even if I "dOn'T kNoW hIs lIfE"
Anyways, it seems to be "that time of the month" for you so I won't write any further lol
@KH_QFT you talk about iq but bring in what I’m assuming is a period joke? Even though I don’t get periods and it’s not even pertaining to these topic ? So clearly your social understanding is well below average especially because anyone with a brain knows the traditional iq placement testing is outdated and incorrect.
0 likesHOW TF is she NOT in PRISON!!!?
0 likesShe literally Google searched “foolproof suffocation”, and then they find the girl suffocated to death.
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Body is found with duct tape wrapped around the mouth. That is pretty fool proof
75 likesIt was overlooked and not brought up at the trial. Why? Because they only browsed her internet explorer history, not checking her firefox history. That piece of evidence wasn't brought up until after.
174 likesCasey's choice of an alternative internet browser saved her ass.
not "literally." calm down
8 likesCasey anything’s mom cindy was really close to Caylee so Casey was jealous and sometimes cindy would tell Casey that she’s an unfit mum that’s why Casey never really let cindy and her dad baby sit her
17 likesThe judges were fools so it helped
13 likes@Queen Sasha Waybright wouldn't that be considered new evidence which means the double jeopardy rule wouldn't apply?
8 likesBad argument. What if she's into true crime like we obviously are? She could be searching for news stories or crime cases. Just gotta think of one counter example and thats reasonable doubt or at least close to it
9 likes@Johnny Morris But, it is possible that they found her reaserching the same killing method used on her daughter without finding other reaserches inherent to crime cases or killing methods in general? Like, it doesn't sound a bit weird like that?
7 likesInternet search was not brought up in trial.
2 likes@Queen Sasha Waybright I was actually thinking this was a joke until I looked it up and apparently it's true, I'm fucking shocked that their investigation was not thorough which ultimately led up to her getting away with it.
5 likesthe craziest thing ever after reading this comment was that THIS was not enough!! THAT is not concrete evidence. like, thats why she got away with it. the prosecutions case didnt have much concrete, direct evidence. its crazy. shes literally walking free rn
2 likes@Zianni Orange it’s up the jury to decide if that’s enough. You ever been on a jury ?
1 like@Queen Sasha Waybright Theres so many more damning pieces of evidence in this case that were discovered afterwards... check out The Last Podcast on the Left episodes on Casey Anthoney. 1 big example I remember is that the fake babysitter name was actually a combination of two of her parents neighbors last names and conveinantly the body was found almost dead center between the two.... Also the fact that she refers to "Zanny the Nanny" and was a party girl makes it pretty clear she was giving her daughter xanax to knock her out.
12 likesYou were on 666 likes pal, I had to fix it. Np. 👍
3 likes@Queen Sasha Waybright are you kidding me, it takes 5 seconds to check every browser history 🤦🏻♂️
0 likes@Simpson, eh? OCPD sucks
0 likes@Johnny Morris that seems like an UNreasonable doubt given everything that happened.
0 likes@Akami Channel that's why in most states there are 12 jurists and they don't all agree on much of anything lol if we were both jurors, I'd say there is reasonable doubt and you would not...
0 likes@Johnny Morris I feel like the word "foolproof" makes it pretty clear that it was more than an interest in true crime, but I see what you're saying. This is why prosecutors need more than one piece of evidence to form a solid case.
0 likes@Johnny Morris And as far as evidence goes, it is pretty weak.
0 likes@I state the truth And people get upset just say you don't understand pro-CHOICE and go
5 likes@I state the truth And people get upset so no, you don't understand. lol okay, also cute that you liked your own comment
3 likes"someone searched on a computer she had access to under her password protected account"
0 likes@Nemnemi yeah, but thats the thing.. we don't know her entire search history.
0 likesNeeded to prove specific intent with malice aforethought and proximate cause.
0 likesBecause its not necessarily evidence that she committed murder. First it would have to be shown that she was the one who searched that. And even if she did it in no way proves that she actually did murder her daughter. Who doesn't search for random stuff online? I once search how to build a pond but never built one.
1 likei think the issue was, was that it had been around 6/7 months when they found her body, so it had decomposed a lot already and they couldn't confirm that the cause was suffocation (even though it probably was) or a date of death. otherwise i 100% think she would've been charged (although i do believe she did it...the fact that she waited 31 days to report that her daughter was 'missing' screams guilty itself)
0 likes@Tiffany Anne Random stuff online like "Foolproof suffocation" ?????
0 likesRIGHT like what did she say when/ if they asked her why she searched that up on her computer????
1 likeAnother one slipped through the cracks in the system
1 like@I RUIN YOUR DRAMATIC COMMENTS not only women but everyone cherish appearance and pleasure more than life lol i got trigger for a second but your trolling is kinda funny
0 likesI am so confusion
0 likes@Manuel Ferrara we care ab ALIVE children who were born. not clumps of cells
2 likes@Manuel Ferrara no
0 likes@Melanie Jacob who the fuck gets jealous of their own 2 year old? I'd be all about it if my mom cared that much about my kid. the more love for them the better.
1 like@Tiffany Anne Yeah I also randomly search methods of killing for fun.
0 likesShe randomly searched “foolproof suffocation” that just happened to be the way her daughter was murdered, the day her daughter went missing. Nah you’re right, just a coincidence.
To top it off, she never reported her daughter missing and then all her provided evidence were lies. Yeah 100% innocent for sure
Not to mention that caylee quote on quote drowned in the family pool... then why tf was there duck tape on the nose and mouth of the corpse
1 like@Queen Sasha Waybright it’s actually because the search on Firefox didn’t correlate correctly with the prosecutions timeline of when Casey left the house that day. The dad said it was 12:30pm but the search happened at 135 pm. Also her AIM and MySpace was open at that time. If I were prosecution I would’ve included that search even if it impeached George’s testimony. I mean the kid was suffocated to death. The defense knew of this search too. In mid 2008. The defense attorney even admitted its true years later that in July 26 2008 he said on the phone that Casey killed her child and they just need to find the body before anyone else does.
0 likes@Gabriel I wonder if you would say this about her if she were a man 🤔. Too many sexists in America want to pick on women and single mothers in particular. And it's especially disgusting on your part to attack a mother who lost a child. The evidence simply wasn't there. Her child's cause of death was conclusively established. The phone searches don't prove that she's the one who searched them or that she had an intention to carry out what was searched.
0 likesThe new-found uses for duct tape which were never pre-conceived....
0 likesWell, hopefully never pre-conceived.
@Nemnemi true, but if her search was done while her daughter was still alive it would obviously negate that possibility.
0 likesHow can she be free?
1 likeun fucking believable she got away with it
1 likeSo her parents not only hid the fact of her not graduating but threw her a graduation party and went to the extent of saying she graduated with honors. I understand a parent feeling embarrassed or like they failed for this kids not graduating but enabling such behavior and their own fabrications must have been an influence on her through life.
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100% I cannot believe they don't understand how damaging that is...but then again (as someone who hasn't had any children) I can kind of see it from their POV. I know they want their child to feel good about themselves, as a normal parent should. But coming from the opposite side, I guess I don't really have a say. (I graduated with honors and my mother did not bother to show up at my graduation for highschool or for community college). Even though I always sought out my mothers acceptance, which I never received, I think that trauma was better than having a mindset like this. Your parents cannot save you from federal court in MOST cases. RIP Caylee.
49 likesI saw an interview with the parents/grandparents by Chris Hanson, and it truly reveals the dysfunctional family dynamic.
106 likesThe mom is an ABSOLUTE enabler. She thinks Casey has never done drugs, blames “possible seizures” for all of Casey’s lies as “memory loss”, and doesn’t think Casey killed her granddaughter.
The dad on the other hand; he knows his daughter is a sociopath who murdered his granddaughter in cold blood— but he won’t just come right out and say it (because his wife stares him down and gets angry any time he suggests Casey isn’t an angel). It’s so painfully obvious how he feels, and he does say that Casey belongs in prison. He seems like a shell of a man who’s been beaten down and manipulated for decades by his wife and daughter.
That poor little toddler never stood a chance.
Yes!!! I read a book 📖 on this... Casey began lying during her senior year. Skipping the majority of the 2nd semester. She lied to her parents about how the school made a mistake regarding why she didn't get her cap and gown . Then she later said she wasn't graduating because the school didn't give her full credit classes... her mom still threw her a graduation party. Then she lied about not being pregnant when she was asked.. it wasn't until she was like 7 months pregnant she admitted it. Casey stole about 40,000 from her parents over time said by a financial advisor... she stole money from her grandmother and even had the audacity to take money out of her grandmother's separate account that was set up for her grandfather while he was in a convalescent home.... who does that?! Cindy(Casey's mom)offered to pay her mom(Casey's grandmother) back ... why would you pay back money your adult daughter stole? She lies, she steals money from everyone, she's an awful human imo. I think she lied and got away with it for so long with no repercussions she felt invincible.. her mom didn't help but let her continue to get away with it
40 likesIt also shows that the parents (possibly mostly the mother) were willing to be hugely deceitful to cover up uncomfortable truths.
9 likesAbsolutely!!
2 likesSo many parents run their childrens emotions out the door.
The parents wanted their trophy degree on the wall for bragging
If not you were treated like 3 rd class citizen.
I’ve witnessed parents do this to a point young adult suffer depression and suicide
She never learned accountability for her actions because of the way her parents treated her...
7 likesright 😭 and would you not feel embarrassed celebrating something that wasn't even a thing??
7 likesI don’t think her parents felt embarrassed, not at all. They just did it for her, to make “sweetie” happy. This is a person who uses people and her parents for her own benefits. And the biggest mistake her parents made was to get along with her sick twisted mind. In this way they fed her lies, so it became normal for her. At the end she truly believed her own lies. This is very strange and awkward behavior and again she get rewarded, she gets away with it. This is a story about lies and a person who believes in her own lies and gets away with it every time.
4 likes@Corgalicious the father that Casey's attorney mentions about having molested her - is that the gray-haired man in the video, or is he the step-father? I need to find the interview you mentioned. This whole thing is absurd.
2 likes@Stephers It’s her father; Casey doesn’t have a step-father. Her parents are still married. Here’s part 1 (there are 3 parts) of the interview I mentioned:
5 likeshttps://youtu.be/zqOvLqkk6Wc
That's where it started..no doubt !!
0 likesBingo!
0 likesthats how manipulative she was. she could convince anyone of anything, even get away with murder
0 likesInfluence is putting it nicely. I was surprised the video did not cover this fact more. This is probably one of the main moments in her life where her ability to lie and get away with it motivated her to continue doing so. We can only hope God saves her at this point. Christ....
0 likesI myself have been in the same situation.
0 likesThis totally plants doubt for me that maybe her Dad hypothetically could've helped her hide the body and/or just knew the whole time and just didn't say anything to help her cover it up. Like he's done to her his whole life.
1 like@GreynotGray yes. Maybe it’s a big manipulation? The long game? The jury felt that Casey did not kill the little girl.
0 likesThat's what you got out of that? Lol
0 likes@Peter I have been in prison for 18 years. There is a lot I am catching up on.
1 likeThey (parents) also seem like nice parents/people who gave their daughter so many chances. Defence then goes and throws the dad under the bus with the whole child abuse story. The parents are nothing but tools to her.
0 likesP
0 likes@Ody O
0 likesI wonder where Casey is now?
0 likesLo que es una locura es que si matas a tu propia hija de 2 años vas a la cárcel eres una asesina, pero si matas a esa misma niña en la barriga, o sea la abortas eres lo máximo, todo el mundo te apoya, me perdí algo???
0 likesShe’s was so guilty. I can’t believe she’s walking free. This one pissed me off.
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I still believe it has something to do with her looks.
167 likes@jane doe Why is that?
17 likesShe didn't do it she was a party girl
10 likes@Jonn Jonnn that doesn’t make sense....
105 likesThe shit blows my mind
21 likesJonn Jonnn she didn’t do it because she was a party girl? Ummm that makes ZERO sense.
83 likes@Jonn Jonnn I bet pathological liars walk all over you in real life
72 likeswe need to crowdfund a hitman
130 likesWomen dont go to jail for committing crimes. You havent figured this out yet?
40 likesDude
1 like@Maria Palladino it was most likely scarcism
6 likes@RearAdmiralTootToot best comment
4 likesBetter You at gethealthed exactly
1 likeBrian T. ... i watched that whole trial ... how on Gods green earth that jury did not find her guilty i'll never understand ... it just makes me mad she is free , not a care in the world ..and that baby is dead ... she dosen't care ... there is a special place in He## for people like her ...
33 likesI don't think she killed her daughter, but I do think she tried to cover up her daughter's death. I think what most likely happened was that her death was accidental, it doesn't change the fact that she's obviously duplicitous and doesn't seem to care in the least about what happened. She was more concerned about her own life and pleasures than she was about reporting her daughter's death.
5 likesThe fucking jury pissed me off.
45 likesCircumstellar right, you sadly loose your kid by accident and then go partying and get a beautiful life tattoo. Perfectly normal.
50 likesryuzakikun96 what about the tape on the babys face? She put it after the ‘accidental’ death?
37 likes@ryuzakikun96 She didn't kill her daughter but she covered it up and carried on like she was never a mother, how convenient! 😒
14 likesThe jury in this case was pathetic! I don't know how any one of them can look at themselves in the mirror!!
24 likes@M.B.M. Yes. My point is that I don't and we dont know what actually happened unless more evidence appears. And nobody is convicted or called murderer without evidence.
1 like@ayman el kati guys are convicted of rape all the time without any evidence and just because a fefail said so.
5 likes@Brainy Smurf sad how many idiots will cry about 'muh inequality' without realizing objective statistics such as females receiving sentences that are essentially a slap on the wrist compared to men for the same crimes. Feelings over the injustice would have swayed the jury beyond doubt if it were a man in the same scenario.
4 likesryuzakikun96 So, youre sayin like involuntary manslaughter?
0 likes@RearAdmiralTootToot that's true sadly
0 likes@Katniss The cat those jurors need jail time
3 likes@Brainy Smurf Hm. I wonder what all those female prisons are filled with then?🤔
7 likes@Katniss The cat Have you even watch Law Abiding Citizen? Yeaaaa~ about that-
1 like@Jos sa It was because the defendant lawyer tried to convince them that Casey Anthony was not guilty, but in fact she was. It was a emotional roller-coaster ride through the jury's minds and ultimately they were persuaded by the defendant lawyer's clever words.
0 likes@psychic crocodile no I think she got away with everything bc she looks appealing.
0 likesIdk who killed kaylee.
I suspect casey, because she was tormented by jealousy over the closeness of kaylee to her grandma.
However, I dont know if anyone else can see the look in Caylee's eyes and the fake smiles but I think she was already mentally fractured.
Which makes me suspect grandpa.
They didnt mention the 'kaylee drowned in the pool' thing here, did they?
A child's emotional development begins in the womb.
The next 12 years are crucial, yet plenty of parents think of their babies as empty headed know-nothings just as they do animals.
That's dumbing down for ya.
@ryuzakikun96 that is what makes me think there's a grandpa component to this.
1 likeEast Coast Girl I still don’t get it. It was an accident so they decided to pick the drowned toddler’s body, wrap it in garbage bags, put tape on its mouth as a ‘sweet gesture’, and throw it in the woods, not even too far from the house.. not even bury it, so it was scavenged by the animals in the forest to the point that the head and other parts were found separate. I try to understand a twisted universe where this is a sweet gesture but It is just impossible. The doctor who did the autopsy said in court that in her experience all of these are clear signs of murder and and sorry but I have to agree here. The lawyer is charismatic for sure, and the grandfather should face a trial himself given the accusations, but don’t get carried away from common sense.
7 likes@Paula Suarez well, 'drowned in the pool' was what they said, not me.
1 likeI think they're narcissistic psychopaths and that would be the reason why you cannot grasp how a sticker would be interpreted as being 'sweet'.
I watch way too much true crime and have been seriously interested in forensic psychology for decades.
I have both experience and insight
that helps me interpret things I used to try so hard to find an answer for.
I'm always interested in the why of things.
I wanted always to find what was wrong with me...why things happened, what did I do?
Instead I discovered there are psychopaths.
There are two psychological components to having placed a sticker and where it was placed: one's conscious and one's subconscious.
Kaylee was old enough to string words together.
She may have been percieved as a potential threat.
A sticker over her mouth would be a subconscious tell.
Casey's jealousy of her daughter's relationship with Cindy Anthony was definitely a factor as well and accounts for her complete lack of interest in the 'disappearance' of kaylee.
Casey may have acted alone to hurt her mother.
It's a pretty effed up family, overall.
Casey's brother seems decent but he's kept himself out of the family circle for the most part.
We all feel that way. I understand why the jury messed up. It was a shitshow.
0 likes@jane doe I think it has to do with her age and gender too. They didn't want to put a 22 year old to death and they weren't certain it was premeditated, though I do believe her journal proves it was. There was somebody clever on the jury who focused on proving to the others there was reasonable doubt and none of the others recalled the details enough to refute it. The trial was a shitshow.
3 likes@Jonn Jonnn You're not very intelligent. She definitely did it and she did it on purpose.
2 likes@ryuzakikun96 If her death was accidental then why was tape placed across her mouth and why did Casey write in her journal that she did the right thing and how happy she was about it?
3 likes@Brainy Smurf women who don't commit crimes do go to jail tho 🥴🥴
2 likes@jane doe it was the jury not having the stomach for a death penalty conviction. Imagine if you had to actually be the one who executed her if you found her guilty. It would bug you out right? Probably its going to shift your assessment of her guilt in her favor heavily too. Its hard to know that you are basically pushing the button on someone like that.
2 likesThe evidence was heavily against her but there was still enough leeway for someone who was looking for a way out for her.
@Jonn Jonnn ..WTF ?
0 likes@Brainy Smurf ... Litasha Staunch .. not sure I spelled her name right .. but she's in jail
0 likesWhere is she Ill take care of it
2 likes@Themistokles Theodosopoulos lemme think about that....nope.
0 likesThat's what money and a good lawyer do
0 likesIkr! Poor baby girl 😭💙
0 likesThe Google searches about suffocation and everything too. There was so much evidence.
1 likeShe literally lied so much at the begining.
0 likes@Brainy Smurf LMAO HUH
0 likesShe just started her own private investigation firm recently. I can’t believe she still has a job.
0 likesPpl really don’t understand law. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. It wasn’t proven that she was guilty of killing her daughter.
0 likes@ItsPeytn
4 likesyeah it's basically how OJ got away with it too; everyone knows she and he are murders but you can't provide any clear evidence that they did it they get away with it
@jane doe 💯
1 like@psychic crocodile she just had no makeup on thats how all girls look like lol.... you would never say that to a random person but because you know she is accused of murder you say that
1 like@Kristy nope.
0 likes@Paula Suarez Never try to figure out acts of the criminally insane.
0 likesLogic has no place there.
The sticker applied on top of the tape on tiddler's mouth is the empty gesture of someone who looks human but has lost the ability to feel higher human emotions
@jane doe gotta have very VERY low standards to let THAT get away with murder.
0 likesturn to Christ and repent before it’s too late because He loves us so much He died for us and God His Father raised Him from the dead and loves us 🥰
2 likesJust awful that a child murderer goes free because she’s a woman and not a man. We see this all the time.
2 likes@ryuzakikun96 she wrote in her journal she was happy about the “decision” she made. So she’s saying she DECIDED to kill her daughter
3 likes@Paula Suarez There is literally no reason for the grandfather to face trial. Ridiculous to claim such a thing when there is zero evidence presented and it's clear that this is just used to scapegoat her behavior.
0 likes@evert sure, my point is that these are two separate matters, that's what I meant
0 likesmee too
0 likesThere’s no way she walks in public in peace
0 likes@jane doe lmao, she's not pretty, what are you talking about
0 likes@ryuzakikun96 I can see why if not for two key things. Why was she googling fool proof methods of suffocation and why did Caylee’s body have tape over the mouth and nose? The body sitting in her trunk for so long could make it seem like it was accidental, I give you that. But, if she’s not guilty of first degree, third degree is indisputable.
0 likes@Katniss The cat 8
0 likes@Jonn Jonnn were you a part of the jury?
0 likesSomeone needs to send her to god
0 likes@Mirai Nikki honestly she doesn’t look attractive to me but usually women of beauty standards (which she pretty much is) usually walk out with basically a slap on the wrist
1 likeWhere is the irrefutable proof?
0 likes@Suzann Ortega it’s been 5 years suzann, get over it
0 likesthe defendant was a master
1 likeShame on humanity for producing 12 people dumb enough to find Casey Anthony not guilty. smh
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there are no limits to how slimy and manipulative a defence could be
234 likesIt’s Florida. What do you expect?
336 likesor at least just ONE that refuses to believe idiocy and sticks to his guns!?
127 likes1st degree murder is hard to prove.
34 likes@D1agram Maybe so, but then pursue 2nd degree murder or manslaughter. Inept prosecutors.
105 likesPerhaps some of them were compensated for doing that. 😑
34 likes@Ms. Buschhorn how do you know that they were ganged up on?
3 likesThe prosecution's job is to prove that the defendant committed the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. The forensic evidence was sloppy and the prosecution relied way too heavily on character evidence and trying to assert that Ms. Anthony is a "bad" person. And while we all know she is indeed a bad person, that does not change the fact that the prosecution clearly failed to piece togther what exactly happened to Caylee Anthony and prove that Ms. Anthony was responsible for it. This is our justice system, it isn't perfect, but I'd much rather see the occasional guilty person let off scot-free than to see a criminal justice system that does not put the burden of proof on the state.
153 likesIt was only 6 jurors...ALL FEMALES
46 likesI think the prosecution overcharged her, they needed a lesser charge, that would have been a slam dunk.
55 likesIt only takes one person believing she’s not guilty for that to be the verdict. The jury has to be unanimous in a guilty verdict.
20 likes@Ravakeksis While certainly suspicious, it's also circumstantial.
4 likesMore than 12, unfortunately... People love to cling to what they WANT to believe over any evidence that disagrees with their hope.
8 likes@ryuzakikun96 The media blew this case into the stratosphere. I firmly believe that jury selection was a big factor in the outcome. The prosecution misread the jury and presented the case in a "traditional" manner. The defense attorneys knew better and had an idea of exactly what they were looking for during jury selection. To have no knowledge of this case at the time a person would have had to be living under a rock. The defense came out swinging hard because they knew exactly the type of jury they were speaking to. Florida law is also a major factor in the outcome. It's generally vaguely written, that is why the prosecutors had to pile on so many charges. I do fully agree that I'd rather see the occasional guilty person get let off than have an innocent person put behind bars.
30 likesHumanity? Nope, America.
7 likes@RavakeksisCan you prove WHO googled it ? Beyond any doubt ?
1 likeHear hear
0 likesThey were all down low satanic
6 likesMy chief told me that you better stay away from court because the people deciding your fate are 12 people too stupid to play hooky on jury duty
10 likesShame on the American justice system that uses random people to judge law cases.
11 likes@ryuzakikun96 Most people don't actually understand what "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" means. They assume it means you have to be SO certain, there can be no reasonable doubt whatsoever that you are wrong. This is NOT the case. "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" means, "A normal person, given the information you have been given, would reasonably presume guilt." The "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" meaning is actually very lenient. If it is "More likely than not" that the person is guilty, beyond reasonable doubt means you should find guilty. Unfortunately, folks have gotten that all twisted around in their heads. They think it means some crazy standard of proof that just isn't necessary.
20 likes@Ravakeksis Well, you've have to prove SHE bought the duct tape to prove premeditation.
1 like@Paislee Fiddyment yes, but it also has to be unanimous in a NOT GUILTY verdict. otherwise you have a hung jury and an acquittal (which can be re-tried.)
1 like@Jane Doe X Just reasonable doubt. Not beyond any doubt. If it more likely than not that Casey googled it... that satisfied reasonable doubt. Sadly, folks don't actually know what "Beyond reasonable doubt" means.
3 likesI feel so sick watching and listening to this beast!
6 likesGreat comment!
0 likesThere is not proof enough.
0 likesThey shouldn't have gone for 1st degree
0 likesIf it can happen for OJ it can happen for anybody
1 likeJuries are often carefully selected to determine an outcome
0 likesthat lawyer was pretty good at what he do though, he created doubt and if I'm not wrong, they only need 1 person out of the 12 to say shes not guilty to have the not guilty ruling.
0 likes@barbara grace Prosecutors sometimes go for an all or nothing approach. They want the jury to choose between the most serious offense or nothing. They hope the jury will be reluctant to let Defendant walk away with nothing. More sensible prosecutors will add a lesser charge. For example, a DUI with bad driving and no breath/blood test: the more sensible prosecutor will amend to add count 2, reckless driving, which is not a lesser included offense, but will more likely get something out of the case.
3 likesPetition!!!!!
0 likesIt was the DA’s fault not how great the defense was. Sure, she was guilty but of what? Was if premeditated or an accident? How did the crime happen? The prosecution left too many holes that the jury had little choice. If the DA had charged her on a lesser charge, they would have convicted.
3 likesD1agram exactly. That’s the real reason she got away. The Prosecutor did a very bad job proving 1st Degree Murder but so confidently talked as if they knew it was 1st Degree. They left no room for it being an accident. And the reality is no one knows if it was an accident or if the kid drowned in the pool while Casey was drunk. The accident theory seems a bit more believable to me.
1 like@Gissel Gomez yea Law doesn't work like that. were you on this jury?
0 likes@barbara grace there were lesser charges for which she was also acquitted
0 likesryuzakikun96 I get your point but tell that to the people that are wrongfully in jail just because they are accused of doing something and no evidence has presented to prove the accusation. I think you know what i’m talking about though..
2 likes@Elder_God What does that have to do with Grindr?
0 likesThe issue in the case was that none of the evidence could actually 100% prove murder though, because the defence lawyer came up with a plausible explanation for how it could have been manslaughter or 2nd degree murder, The problem was the charge they gave her. If they hadn’t used 1st degree, it would have gone through. But for 1st degree murder, you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt someone intended and planned to kill someone ahead of time.
6 likesCasey is the type of person to avoid responsibility and just pretend things haven’t happened. One time, she was fired from her job, and in response, she just kept on showing up day after day and working normally, acting like she wasn’t fired until people noticed her that day, and told her to leave. And she just kept on showing up, day after day, until her parents intervened.
So, she has a track record of going out of her way to maintain her borderline delusional image of “normal life”. Is it really impossible to believe that if Casey was negligent, and her daughter drowned while she was on her phone, that she really would just wrap the body up, out in in the wood, and just pretend nothing had happened and everything was still normal? Or at the least, that she “let” her daughter play by the pool until she accidentally feel in, and then pretended not to notice until she had drowned, and then hid the body?
The issue was that this IS a plausible explanation. And even if you think it’s not what happened, in order to be found guilty of something, it has to be the ONLY plausible explanation for something. So even if it was probably a murder, as long as there’s another explanation that is legitimatly equally viable, you can’t find someone guilty of it.
@Jazz Feline OJ Simpson was a case of jury nullification though.
2 likes@H W “I’m not telling you anything! You’ll get nothing from me!” Solo growled as two stormtroopers secured his wrists above his head with cuffs attached to a hook on the ceiling and his feet with shackles on the floor.
2 likesAlthough he wasn’t quite spread-eagled, the stretch was sufficient to be uncomfortable, and Solo’s arms were supporting most of his body weight.
“Leave us,” Vader said to the two stormtroopers.
They saluted and made a quick exit.
“Give me your worst, Vader! You won’t be able to do—” Solo gurgled and wheezed as Vader pinched his airway partially shut.
He didn’t have to listen to this.
Whatever Vader wouldn’t ‘be able to do’ died unvoiced on Solo’s lips.
He could keep this up for a while – denying Solo enough air to speak but not so much that he lost consciousness or died of suffocation.
Solo continued wheezing and choking, saliva bubbling and dripping from his parted lips as Vader paused to consider his course of action.
The stormtroopers had already punched Solo in the gut a few times when he was first taken prisoner.
Something different would be more effective as an opening salvo.
Hmm.
Old-fashioned bone-bending, perhaps?
Yes, that should do.
Vader would start with bone-bending.
With a flick of his gloved fingers, the long bones in Solo’s arms and legs began to warp themselves into unnatural curves.
Bending, bending, bending, but not quite enough to snap and break.
Vader knew exactly where to stop.
Solo eyes bulged and began to leak tears as he tried to gulp the air to scream.
Vader decided not to allow it.
Not yet.
He tightened his grip on Solo’s windpipe ever, ever so slightly.
The excruciating pain made it easy for Vader to penetrate Solo’s mind.
Time to up the ante further.
Now Vader caused all of Solo’s nerve endings everywhere in his body to fire at once, a sensation of unspeakable, unimaginable but wholly phantom pain – worse by far than the pain of being electrocuted or burnt – on top of the real pain of the bone-bending.
Solo’s gauche clothes were soaking wet with perspiration; his mind was a supernova-bright explosion of agony.
He tried screaming again.
Again, Vader did not let him.
All in all, Vader thought, this was going well.
Solo did not want to scream in defiance or anger.
His scream would be a mindless plea for mercy, for succor, for an end to his suffering.
He wanted to be saved.
This was exactly the kind of intense emotion Vader needed him to project across the vast expanses of the galaxy.
And yet…
And yet.
It wasn’t quite enough.
Solo hated pain, was unmanned by it, that was true, Vader could see that in his mind.
But there was something the smuggler hated even more—
How amusing.
A shame Vader was no longer young.
Once, he would have been able to make Solo’s worst nightmares come true the old-fashioned way, his body pushed into Solo’s, taking his pleasure from the exquisite friction of flesh against flesh as Solo writhed on the impalement, humiliated by his vulnerability and the unmasking of his most shameful, secret desires—
Abruptly, the neuropathic pain stopped, and Solo’s bones straightened.
Solo sagged in his restraints, chest heaving, panting for breath that still wouldn’t quite come.
Vader gave him no more than a split second’s reprieve before, with another flick of Vader’s gloved fingers, Solo’s anus began to stretch.
He didn’t understand what was happening at first.
He was too brutalized, too exhausted, to notice what Vader was doing to him.
That changed, however, when Vader curled his fingers into a fist.
Solo’s back arched, and he threw his head back and writhed, trying to exhale, trying to scream, as his anus was stretched to a circumference equal to Vader’s fist, as the unnatural invasion began to progress deeper.
And deeper still.
He started moving in and out of Solo, punching, pounding in and out of him with all of the dark Force energies he could muster.
Solo’s thoughts were incoherent blurts of pure emotion; if he could have spoken he would have been begging and pleading – though whether for Vader to stop or never to stop neither Vader nor Solo were entirely certain.
The penetration continued, wracking Solo’s already much-abused body with a humiliating, intoxicating blend of pain and pleasure.
Solo’s pants were bulging at the groin; he was aroused and appalled by his arousal and horrified by how close he was to coming—
Solo started to orgasm.
Vader rammed his power home into Solo for a final time, the extent of the stretch monstrous, obscene as the insertion of a hand and the arm it was attached to, to the elbow and beyond, and as Solo ejaculated uncontrollably, torso jerking with each violent pulse, Vader at last released his hold on Solo’s windpipe.
Luke would definitely hear that scream, wherever in the great wide galaxy he was.
Save me, Solo’s mind screamed over and over, helpless, desperate, reduced to base, animal terror, save me.
It seemed practically neverending, and it was everything.
Amenities or no amenities, overall Vader was most pleased with the outcome of the interrogation.
He summoned the two stormtroopers back into the holding cell.
“We are finished here,” he said. “Remove him.”
@Jazz Feline I think you’re misunderstanding me here. Jury nullification doesn’t mean “there wasn’t a jury”. It means “the jury decided to rule against the evidence”.
2 likesLegally, it’s the jury’s responsibility to come to a verdict. But it’s under absolutely no legal requirement whatsoever to actually use any of the evidence or the trial to come to that verdict. It can legally come to whatever decision it likes however way it likes, and it’s decision is valid and final. CGP Grey did a good video on it. A common example of this being used is back in the 1850s, where abolitionist some juries would use it to let runaway slaves go free even when they “should” have been returned. And some extremely racist juries used it to make black people they knew were wrongfully accused of being runaways and were actually free to go into slavery anyways, because they felt all black people should be enslaved.
The OJ Simpson case was obviously him killing both of them. That was obvious to the jury too. But there were members of the jury who wanted to find him innocent as a political statement against the LAPD and racism in America anyway. They were the most passionate about their position and held out the longest. And eventually the rest of the jury gave in.
Sadly, this isn't the only one. Have you seen OJ Simpsons case?
1 likeAll she was worried about what's going to happen to her she never once cried worried about her daughter or anything.
0 likesFlorida jury. Yeeeehaw
0 likesGregg Wigen they didn’t have to prove she bought the duct tape most people have some in the home already.
2 likesAnd if the baby drowned why would there be duct tape around her skull when it was found
If you’re going to hide and lie about an accidental death
Why do you put duct tape around a dead child’s mouth???
@delsolman24 There are plenty of insane trials where terrible people have been let off. But that satanic rite you're mentioning has been debunked. It's all false information. The case was actually brought up in several of my college psychology lectures as a prime example of what happens when psychology goes wrong. Basically, her therapists kept asking her loaded questions and put her into states of semi-hypnosis where they would actually plant false memories (unintentionally of course) of supposed satanic rituals. Her stories were proven false time and time again when parts of her stories would self-contradict, and people she accused would prove their innocence. The reason she passed all tests was because she herself truly believed in the stories - they were real false (oxymoron, I know) memories implanted by her therapists. If you want true stories of sick and twisted people getting off scot free, look no further than this case, or many other cases in the justice system.
1 like@jordyy🍒 I was thinking that too. The accidental drowning through negligence would be totally believable except for the duct tape. What possible use was there for that?
0 likesBlake Jhonshen what about the physical evidence of child birth? She was 11-12 range. Besides how can so many stories of identical situations keep getting brought up. I think this is not a case of BS.
0 likesBlake Jhonshen thoughts on all the Epstein/Ross and elite clients and friends. Is that mass hysteria? These stories literally go on forever. Not saying some situations are not made up but way more than you think or ever come to light.
0 likes@delsolman24 Well yeah, there are stories about sexual abuse by high-ranking people across the world. That's true. But they aren't satanic rituals where they practice cannibalism and eat miscarried babies. You're confusing fantasy and reality.
0 likes@Jordan Angle that's just not true though is it, there was 7 women and 5 men
0 likes@Jordan Angle and you'd think females would be less likely to let off a mom like that. I was in state prison when Mary Jean Armstrong went in. She was beat within an inch of her life for her crimes. In men's prison, its the cp/r@p!sts, in women's, its the abusive moms that get the violence.
0 likesshe is lucky she is not born in Russia. 98-99% conviction rates.
1 likebelieve all wahmen
0 likesGod bless America
0 likesmost of the jury said there is not enough evidence to support to place guilty on Casey. But what about fingerprints on the car and daughter that would connect to Casey at least.
0 likesProbably more like 4 billion or so.
0 likesShame on humanity for producing a justice system that relies on 12 untrained people, who are likely swayed by emotion rather than logic, to determine whether or not they were guilty. It's such an outdated system, and it's still in use today. It's so smart.
0 likesThere are plenty of crappy people walking this earth. The thing is is my definition of a "dumb" or "crappy" person probably isn't exactly the same as yours.
0 likes@-00- -00- None of what you said is evidence that she killed her daughter. We know she's guilty in hindsight, but the prosecution tried pressing the wrong charge and there was reasonable doubt.
0 likes@Con Fidential no, her slimy lawyers got her off with it. If your version is to be believed, what SHOULD the prosecutor's have done ?
0 likes-00- -00- They tried to accused her for something they couldn’t prove, instead of third degree murder they should’ve accused her of second degree murder which would’ve been much easier to prove seeing her general lack of concern for her daughter’s well-being.
0 likesI do not think she is innocent in the slightest, but I think the prosecution made some grave mistakes.
How did they not find her guilty on child endangerment??? She didn't report her missing for 31 days! Things like this make me believe it would be better if humans go extinct
0 likes@gutenbird Then why the duct tape over the child's face then? The truth is that with all the lying and interactions with her firsthand, they did think her a horrible person, horrible enough to do this,and her not calling to report her child missing was as glaring as it gets. The defence probably convinced her to tell the truth about what happened and ruled it as an accident and made her horrible character work in her favor. But that didn't explain the duct tape, unless she was trying to make it look like her daughter was abducted by a serial killer and killed in such a horrible fashion that would deflect blame from her, her mother. Maybe that's why she googled all the stuff to know how to stage it. What do you think of this?
1 likeIf the prosecution was serious,. they would have tested for the fluid in her lungs that killed her, stuff like this should be routine for the autopsy. How was she killed and was she killed somewhere else,and dump here? These are things they should have done routinely to counter anything the defence can come up with. Instead they let a crazy person walk free. If it was negligence then I feel alittle sorry for her, as a woman and a mother.
They weren’t the brightest but it’s extremely hard to prove murder or 1st degree murder like Americans say
0 likesIt's the south what do you expect?
0 likes@Jed Eye ha! You beat me to the punch!
0 likes@Gregg Wigen Dude, did you just say that "beyond reasonable doubt" and "more likely than not" is the same standard of proof? Because it is not at all.
0 likesWho the hell uses full names? I don't know any of my friends middle names LOL.
0 likessuch a good liar
0 likesThat’s insane! so did her dad do that to her was she molested?!!!! What what it’s like she got the guy from devils advocate what in the what!! His salary must be millions
0 likesOne of the guiltiest people I’ve ever seen gets set free. Unreal.
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She definitely was guilty, but you can't put someone in jail when there is no proof
12 likes@Broccoli_Jaeger no proof???? She searched on the internet how to suffocate someone, wrote in her diary that she was now happy since her daughter was dead, and every single part of her story was a lie
178 likes@Broccoli_Jaeger Yes , you can. Tell that to the many people who are innocent, serving time & aren’t the correct skin color.
111 likes@Pink Oreo _ Gee don't make it about race. You make it sound like no innocents of the "correct skin color" go to jail.
52 likes@Lordoa We all know its easier to convict a person with color.
61 likes@Pink Oreo _ don't you feel like it was more a general pretty privilege thing in her case that helped her? I mean in my opinion she has evil eyes but she's still close to the beauty standards of the time and I feel like any woman, regardless of her skin color, whose looks are further away from the beauty standards would've had a way harder time getting away with what she did. I just feel like if she was overweight, had crooked teeth, a less tidy looking haircut etc. she wouldn't have gotten away with this as easily - regardless of skin color.
17 likesOJ
7 likesWell, we all know why she didn't get convicted.
9 likes@Pink Oreo _ OJ SIMPSON HAS ENTERED THE CHAT
9 likesOJ Simpson : and I took it personally
2 likes@NoSoul NoProblem pretty privilege is a thing but i don't think it played a part here. it seems like most murder cases women get off more easier than guys. why that is, I'll never know, but that's just what I've seen so far
3 likes@m o o n s t o n e #BelieveHer
1 like@NoSoul NoProblem totally agree
0 likes@Helen Healy Yep, OJ was obviously guilty and he got off.
4 likes@Pink Oreo _ What about OJ? And have you ever seen White Boy? It's a true story by the way. Quit with the race card cry baby.
4 likes@Samantha Fujiwara Out of everyone, the only person all of y’all could come up with was, OJ Simpson 😂😂 and that says a lot! Unless you’re a person of color, you’ll never understand the difference.
4 likes@esther fisher she's not pretty as in she's some beauty queen but she's girl next door pretty enough. She looks perfectly average girl next door. Not too thin or too thick for that, not too pretty or too ugly for that. Not too old or too young for that. Not too in your face or too much of a wallflower.
1 likeI think regardless of whether you personally think she's pretty that had a part in it.
She's also a brunette and brunettes are usually subconsciously judged to be more trustworthy, responsible, reliable and mature than blondes, redheads and women with black hair.
@Bam Bam oh you mean like OJ! Hahaha, gtfo with your victim hood mentality. Try being a better person and put your victim card back in your pocket. Trade in your tissues for work shoes, get out there and do something with your life. That’s the issue. Oh! And inner city violence… yeah let’s put a stop to that.
2 likes@Your Wrong 😂😂😂😂 I’m quite well established & content. Don’t make a fool of yourself.
3 likes@Unreleased00 that isn't youtube
1 like@Honeycomb Bear wym
0 likesA true and tragic failure of the justice system when she was set free. To think she doesn't live more than 30 minutes away from me.
3 likesIt’s not what you know. It’s who you know. Unfortunately.
1 like@Helen Healy OJ was rich. That’s the difference
0 likesThats how the US courts system is like. Fraudulent nothing new
1 like@esther fisher they did find the body though, close to their home.. with evidence from the home..
0 likes@Bam Bam 13%
0 likes@Broccoli_Jaeger you can't say someone is guilty when "there is no proof".
0 likes@Pink Oreo _
0 likesWhat a disgusting thing to say 🤣 lol
I guarantee a large part is because they pulled the sexual abuse by the father card.
0 likesShe’s guilty but her parents are so sweet
0 likesBroccoli_Jaeger it’s not a race thing but she should be in jail
1 likeShe got away with it again (lie workt again for her)!!!
0 likesShe murdered her own child. No remorse. Lies and coldness. She’s deranged
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This is what happens when random people get to make legal decisions because we're too lazy to go off of only evidence.
21 likesAnd when you use conspiracies and blame the media for everything including sullying her 'good' reputation.
You can get away with murder, and even become president.
@Matthew trump 2020
5 likes@Krispy Kreme I think you mean "RIP Trump 2020" cuz he gots the covid.
7 likes@Melissa Vickery Stop lying. Ur sister doesn't know anyone.
1 like@VitriolVic yea she actually does. That's why it's irritating that she has gotten away with it. Michelle Parker was another Orlando girl that went missing and no one could seem to find out what happened. Orlando cops can't do their job
2 likes@Melissa Vickery I'm certain she never admitted guilt to anyone except for whoever was with her at the time/accomplice. Yes, of course, she's guilty but there was no actual proof of anything. Her DNA was nowhere to be found. We know she's guilty, we simply can't prove it, sadly.
1 likeI'm wondering if they charged her with a lesser incriminating charge, ie. involuntary manslaughter, if they coulda got her then. She's obviously responsible for whatever happened to her daughter, she was in her care when she died. Sad story all around & I followed the entire proceedings on Court Tv. She got off cuz she banged her lawyer, who put on a career-making defense. He became the #1 defence attorney upon his win.
@VitriolVic I'm sure she hasn't admitted the truth to anyone
0 likes@VitriolVic i think that will happen too. That's what I explained to my husband
1 like@Melissa Vickery Sick sad world we live in. :( Take care.
0 likes@VitriolVic it is. Hope a safe and lovely year for 2021. God knows we need a better 2021 yr
0 likesNotice in call with parents from jail She keeps using past tense like "you were great grandparents to her" " she was very lucky to have you"..she only corrected herself once.
4 likes@Matthew Ummm.. sorry to disappoint you but he doesn't have it anymore so..Trump 2020 it is!
1 like@SE Mowery I was noticing that
0 likesIt's kind of fascinating though, how she never broke therefore never confessed. 😐
1 like@SE Mowery It doesn't matter who rules the Empire then the Empire is in terminal faze. At this point, inertia alone will bring about collapse and implosion of the whole Empire. We not taking into account how the other 3 Empires will act then we finally implode (China, EU, Russia). At this point the fate if US is sealed. Divided house can not stand. The nation is divided, broken, demoralized, and absolutely in conflict with it self. Brother against brother, mother against daughter, father against the son; neighbor against neighbor. This is beyond salvageable. I suggest, you prepare for imminent collapse of the Empire, insuring chaos, loss of services, collapse of law, and starvation. The fact what most of our crops are destroyed, and pandemic stifling food production, will only make the process so much worse and lethal. Good luck to all of us, we will need it.
0 likes@SE Mowery you can tell by her moma reaction that she was there to confirm her suspicions, you se it the exact moment sh missuses past particle her mom just dies inside
0 likesImagine being her dad.. being accused of sexual abuse while everybody knows she killed his granddaughter.
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@Manny P she did lie
97 likesBelieve all women bro
30 likes@EPC 1522 slay queen.
14 likes@Lon Spector it doesn't happen all the time... boost.
21 likesDoodle Vision psychopaths are born, sociopaths and narcissists are made. Not her parents fault
11 likes@Deep Inside yes in court she said her father molested her
6 likesFunny thing is...the only reason to mention that specific thing in this court case was to gain sympathy.
33 likesIt had no relation to the murder. It had no relevance to the case. Except to generate sympathy.
You try to get sympathy from the jury because you're trying to sway them or cushion the courts judgement of you.
Because she did it.
If people accuse you of something you didn't do, you fight - argue - you ask "what the fuck is wrong with you"....you don't go about trying to place blame elsewhere like "you can't really blame me because..."
More importantly - just because daddy touched your NO NO doesnt mean its cool to kill your kid. So how THIS was again EVEN FUCKING RELEVANT is beyond me.
@JustTrollinAlong she probaply lied about that statement
8 likes@Elizabeth Cummins yes but then came the car crash and he reached out to her....
0 likes@EPC 1522 Not republican ones though
0 likesWell, we can't say for certain he never sexually abused her. Let's just say Casey Anthony did not win her personality at the local fair.
5 likes'watch out, there is an apple falling from the tree'
part 3 ... where did you get all of this info?
0 likesI would submit a polygraph so fast..
0 likesBill Kane why?
0 likes@DukeNukem Unfortunately, they didn't put her on the witness stand so she could say it herself. So, after the trial is almost complete they bring it up only during the closing statements. If she would have said in court she would have been cross examined and then it would be over for her. She'll get hers in time.
0 likes@desertdawg1991 jup you're right
0 likesD C By the time she had the child, they already knew how irresponsible and a liar she was. They smelled a dead body in her car and couldn’t find the child and couldn’t press her because denial. The mom was partying and not telling anyone about the child ‘disappearing’ 31 days earlier. The parents condoned/enabled...and I’m sure a psychiatrist could go back and examine how this woman turned out this way, like they’ve done with OJ.
3 likes@Elizabeth maybe some Day in The future she stands trial again for her crime
0 likes@Lon Spector you and the others here are truly astounding
0 likesDukeNukem I don’t understand how the lawyer married her though...
1 like@Elizabeth he did? Then its propably futile
0 likesElizabeth Cummins i wouldn't want anything to do with her if that was my daughter.
1 like@EPC 1522 Jodie Arias?
1 likeBut “believe all women”. This case is the poster child case for .... NOT🙄
0 likesEPC 1522 lol
0 likesD C exactly
0 likesDukeNukem um not the way US law works. Sadly.
2 likesDukeNukem nope. Not possible. In America you cannot be charged with a crime that you have already been acquitted of. It’s called double jeopardy. Sad but true.
3 likesLon Spector you did NOT just seriously say that. There is no redemption for child killers. None. Quite frankly anyone who has empathy for them is someone to be highly suspicious of.
2 likesLon Spector I do happen to love that song, Sara. That was a huge hit song the week my daughter was born in ‘86.
0 likes@EPC 1522 Thats exactly the problem.
0 likes@Mog #andMetoo
0 likesLon Spector OK now you’re veering off, so I’m just going to exit this exchange. Peace.
0 likesshe killed her kid for sure, she wrote it on her journal theres no doubt about that, and sure she threw her dad under the bus sure that just another lie, but im saying that she needs help, prisons gonna do no good
0 likesHoly shit, I was born on August 9th of 2005...That could've been me.
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No, it couldn't. Why do people have to make everything about themselves.
1 like@Googly Moogly fr
0 likesGuilty af. Ridiculous.
1 like“I was an event coordinator” ....”Casey stood at a booth and sold pictures to people after getting off the Incredible Hulk ride” lol
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I'm an Senior IT Manager. I say people 10 times a day they should f*ing document their code and shouldn't close their user stories without testing. The same thing.
46 likesThis channel has a brilliant way of mimicking classing crime documentary voice and tone while slipping in those total burns xD
151 likesThis felt like Ron Howard on Arrested Development.
40 likes😂
4 likesYeah
3 likes@Lily RE your comment made me laugh way too much because it's so spot on lmao
7 likesThat was such a burn
1 likeI cringed lmao
0 likes"this person does not exist"
13 likesThat shit sent me off the edge 🤣 😂 😒 💀
5 likes🤣🤣
1 likeThe Hulk ride was legendary she just killed the buzz I once felt ! Darn it.. Whyyy was it the Hulk and not Superman or spider man!!😔🙄🙈
1 like💀@you 🤣😭🤭😂😆
0 likes@DragonJr dope ass comment hahahaha 🌹
1 likeThe delivery is on point. The writer's knew how to properly use the narrator's interesting voice.
1 likeLmao buuuuuuurn
0 likesSaddest thing I've ever heard
0 likes@TheTambourinist What does that mean?
1 likeThat was pure violence 🤣
0 likesWhen I told you I busted out laughing lol
0 likesIslands of Adventure 💀
0 likesShe organized the photos
0 likesI was listening to this at 2am and cracked up so hard I woke up my roommate when I heard this lol
0 likessounds like my ex-gf with the crazy but somehow believable lies
0 likesIts true nothing was proven
0 likes“She was not an event coordinator, she stood at a kiosk and sold photos of people after being on the Incredible Hulk ride” I’m dead
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I’m dead after this comment! 😂😂😂😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😂😂😂😂😂😂👏🏻👏🏻😂😂😂😂
28 likesMaking me sweat about my CV here.
26 likes@Arkantos This chick was not smart or smooth and got away with murder. You gonna be fine.
29 likesMaybe not the best description of yourself for this particular video.
5 likes@Arkantos what are you talking about?
1 likeLmfao. Out of everything of the video. 😂
1 likeI had the same reaction. That was an amazing lowkey diss. 👏
4 likesChicks always try to make their jobs out to be something important
5 likes@Aaron King this isnt a thing that just chicks do, the amount of dudes that lie about their job to get laid is far greater
13 likes12:31 Holy shit, at this point at the video I was like "If you´re gonna tell me now 'Zenaida doesn´t exist', I´m gonna freak the fuck out" ! Oddly enough, that I called it, but holy shit, I just had to say something here, this is so far beyond insanity, I can´t even comprehend anymore. I need some dialogue, I need some people to explain this to me or otherwise make sense....
1 likeI died at how serious he was when saying that, I loved the Incredible Hulk ride, although the line was ridiculous.
0 likesShe could have worked her way to the TOP in the Republican Party.
0 likesThe jury failed this little girl just like her mother did.
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@David S Cameron Not guilty. She walked free.
24 likesYeah, there needs to be a retrial and a reliable jury that will give her a guilty verdict.
33 likes@Cody illegal to have another trial for the same crime once a verdict is given. Even if more evidence is found.
43 likes@cookie_dough_hangover - She wasn't found "innocent".
28 likesShe was found "not guilty".
@spikefivefivefive since I am not a native speaker it sounds same to me. 😂😂😂
7 likesNo, it wasn’t the jury. It was the prosecution’s strategy and Jose Baez’s closing argument.
8 likesFailed? You mean killed?
7 likes@Sioax Aerikenlooks like the need to try her for Perjury and lying... That's a new trial. And each and every single other crime she committed the moment she obstructed justice
4 likesWELL, what do you expect? IT'S FLORIDA!!
1 likeAnd grandmother.
0 likesBut the lawyer is smiling, and that's what really counts.
2 likesSI0AX sure, but they didn’t kill caylee. stop trying to deflect.
0 likesI watched the entire the trial. They excluded the jurors from quite a bit of the crucial evidence presented by the prosecution. How can a jury come to any proper conclusion when they are not privy to "all" of the information and arguments being presented by both sides? It is like completing a jigsaw puzzle which has pieces missing, incomplete. Or expecting a recipe to turn out successfully without key ingredients. The whole thing stunk.
9 likes@Cody Sadly cannot happen. Rule of double jeopardy.
0 likes@rw501 It was the jury. They admitted they didn't understand circumstantial evidence. If they had, they wouldn't have acquitted her!
1 like@kill dANo I agree, have always said that. Why is it being left to people who don't even understand the evidence that is presented?
2 likesYou got a great youtube name, Ma'am.
0 likesPersonally it’s sad but we weren’t in the court room it’s not fair to say the jury failed her the production did a terrible job and your only flaw with her is her emotion on her child. I agree she 100% did something here even if it was giving her child away and was happy she didn’t have to have her child. Can you say that she 100% killed her daughter or could she have watched someone else kill her child. No one knows anything all we know is she wanted her daughter gone/dead.
0 likesI mean she wasn't guilty. not at all. Didn't give a crap
1 like@N. D. M. "illegal to have another trial for the same crime once a verdict is given. Even if more evidence is found."
1 likeTrue, and it's a completely bullshit rule. This should not by applied to extremely violent crimes or other actions that irreparably destroy another persons life.
Having a person walk free who is responsible for someones death, simply because the initial charge was too high, is another major piece of bullshit. Having a literal legal route for allowing a person who is provably guilty of a lesser but still very serious charge, simply because the initial charge was "too high", is a backwards system.
This rule isn't just fundamentally problematic, it also allows for corruption which involves guilty parties bribing, blackmailing or convincing the prosecution to overcharge to the point that the specific charge is unprovable. Such corruption would also be difficult to detect, because it would appear the prosecution is grilling the defendant every step of the way in order to prove their case.
Finally it gives the perfect excuse to vigilantism, especially when undeniable evidence comes forth proving the guilt of someone for a serious offense. It's very difficult to blame someone for "taking the law into their own hands", when the law has quite literally exhausted itself by its own ridiculous short-sighted regulations.
Cody it was lost in the instructions of the judge. They were basically forced to convict her of being a cold hearted murderer (which i 100% believe) or nothing. Many jurors stated they believe something happened and she died but they didnt believe she purposefully killed her. In my opinion anything a parent would do to a child to cause something so terrible than hide it for a month, relentless partying , lying and being a twat, deserves to never breathe a slit of free air ever again. Things happen, terrible things happen everyday. The way we human up makes all the difference. She ... i just cant forgive.
1 likeN. D. M. Absolutely not accurate attorney, try again.
0 likesProsecutor failed. I believe she is guilty but if picked into jury and only relyed on information given during trial I would have given not guilty verdict. Some of the defense arguments didn't make sense but prosecutor didn't question them. Jury has no ability to make own arguments.
0 likes@sokami spoken by someone who has no understanding of American history and why it was put into the US Constitution. This keeps people safe from the government continually charging someone over and over until they get the results it wants. There is still the civil courts that are more lenient with prosecution, but money penalty based, for those who are directly involved and think there is a case.
1 like@N. D. M. Talk about attacking my character with absolutely nothing to base it on. Your whole comment is a ridiculous non-argument. Just because i disagree with a part o the fifth amendment, and not even to the point of completely nullifying that part of it, and point to issues such as the ethics of maintaining such a rule when faced with new evidence, the potential for corruption, and how it can be used to legitimize vigilantism.... your argument is that "i don't understand the constitution or US history". You don't need to inform me of why it was put into the constitution. I would argue that upholding specific rules regardless of changing circumstance and refusing to consider revising it at any point, is dogmatic. You are being blindly dogmatic and using it to attack my character. Either you can address my arguments as I actually typed them out, or you can just go away because you're pointless to engage with if you can't argue in good faith.
1 likeRoo Mum so then the prosecution or judge failed to properly explain it to them. Not the jury’s fault that they weren’t educated in that aspect. The prosecution/judge sucked and that coupled with Baez’s closing argument is why she walked.
0 likesWell, it doesn't matter anymore. She is free.
0 likesdon't think she ever had a mother just a grandmonther
0 likesThe Prosecution failed! No DNA evidence, nothing to tie Casey to Murder.
0 likesI don’t
0 likes@Stack64 Lol
0 likes@G R Cleve Never understood this. All evidence should be presented. If the other side opposes it, they can explain why they oppose it during the trial.
0 likesThe courts never said she was innocent. They said they didn't have enough evidence to convict her. The jurors themselves knew it was the wrong verdict but "beyond reasonable doubt" is the way it works in law. We all know she's guilty but sadly the evidence just wasn't enough. Sadly double jeopardy means she will never face a re-trial. we shall just hope and pray that karma will work its magic on her, if not now then one day when she least expects it.
1 like@Chris Reed I agree and understand what your saying but what if one day she says "yes I did it" or some new evidence comes to light. That's it, nothing can be done. Its 'win win' for her and the justice system has failed this little girl not once but twice. If I did kill a little girl which i never would I'd expect to be hounded, shunned and accused for the rest of my natural life. Not just for one courtroom appearance.
0 likes@Chris Reed your kind of missing the point. You said it yourself "There have been instances where a murder case has gotten acquitted and the person later said they did it" that's my entire argument. your talking about how the justice system works in general not about this particular case. Look at her behaviour, her body language and all the lies shes told. These are not the actions of an innocent woman. Because of the double jeopardy clause Caylee Anthony's story will never have the closure that she deserves. Its all well and good talking about the founding fathers but in this particular case that clause will prove to be a lifeline for Casey Anthony not for Caylee.
1 likeWow , people there you have it ! If you ever commit murder take down this lawyers name ! ..smh .. I don't know how that lawyer sleeps at night
0 likes@puenteUSA.com Actually, 4 of the 7 charges against her were for lying to the police and obstruction of justice, and on those 4 counts she was found guilty and sentenced to 1043 days in jail and a $4000 fine which she did when she was waiting to be trialed.
0 likes@kill dANo LMFAO;) good one Bro #StupidVSsmart
0 likesThe judicial system is fucked
0 likes@fpshooterfull America
0 likes@Mr305Maxxx Didn't she accuse him of sexually abusing her? Or am I wrong?
0 likes@Mr305Maxxx I have never heard anything about her biological father either. He was never mentioned. I know they fabricated the story about sexual abuse. Everything that came out of her mouth was a lie. It really pisses me off she's walking around free. 😡
0 likes@Chris Reed What if new evidence pops up showing undeniable guilt for a crime? Not so much in this case, but I'm sure it has happened since technology has improved...
0 likes@sokami You idolize Stalin and the Soviets. You don't even hide it. Your goal is to dismantle the Constitution and turn the country into a shithole. Which is why you're arguing so hard to give the state the ability to ruin people's lives by constantly charging them with the same crime over and over.
1 like@57:57 my jaw hit the mf floor wha da hell.......they threw that ball outta nowhere
1 likeIt’s unbelievable that she was acquitted of all charges.
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That day was the day I knew "America is not great".
54 likesIts not about what you did its about what they can prove. Its crazy that it wasnt a guilty verdict. That lawyer's rate is gonna go through the roof now. He did a great job. Id use him, if I could afford him still
11 likes@Brad Steiner Not at all. The proof is beyond "reasonable doubt..." NOT has to be 100% sure.
41 likesI have seen plenty of people found guilty on much less evidence.
Seems to be pure luck...Who are the prosecutors, the defence, the jury and of course the accused.
Some jurers simply look at the accused and make up their minds. Young girl, nice smile guarantee some will say "not guilty.." before a word has been spoken.
If you ever have to rely on jury for your life...You better pray for a miracle.
@GuyFromSouth would you have to use him?
1 likeRight, yet so many innocent people still get convicted.
13 likesWell....they acquitted OJ, is it that unbelievable? 🙄🙄
12 likesIt's not unbelievable when people with brains and logic knew she was innocent.
0 likesYeah, you got to think tho, if her defense attorney can get someone like that acquitted, he is probably an attorney you want to have if you’re actually innocent
4 likesDont forget she was acquitted by 12 people, each of whom went through a lengthy selection process, so what do you know, that nobody else knows ? Please tell us.
1 like@fullmetaljaco and shame on her parents for not telling the truth in court...
1 like@HanSDevX Conventionally attractive white* women get away with anything. I guarantee if this was a black father on trial for the same thing he'd be in prison regardless of there not being enough evidence to tie him to it. Definitely gender inequality, class inequality, and racial inequality that goes on in the system.
8 likes@Father Chrissy OJ simpson was on trial for killing his ex wife and ron goldman and they acquitted him.
0 likesNashville Dude what did you do that you’d need that kind of lawyer?
0 likes@Jesse H I mean OJ was acquitted due to his resources, reputation, SES class, and wealth. Anthony was acquitted for being a conventionally attractive young white woman. The jury is a joke, they never actually judge non-biasedly, they make their mind up at the beginning of trial (because using regular civilians off of the streets isn't the best idea they should use psychologists to mass evaluate the trial). As long as they don't say that they have a bias they can stay on the jury.
3 likesWhat a stupid jury for real, even if you were scared of your parents you'd call someone.
1 like@Jesse H Yes and the reason that was possible for him as a black male in the 90s is because he was rich, had a fuck ton of resources, and had a great reputation as a football star.
0 likes@Jesse H All I'm saying is that the justice system is very broken and if you have the money, the white privilege, the right "look", a good reputation, etc., you can get away with anything. They don't actually care about real guilt or innocence. Why do think innocent people get put on death row? Innocent people get convicted when they don't fit a cookie cutter box that the jury wants.
1 likeWait what???
0 likes@marikie marie I respectfully disagree. America is the greatest place on earth. To condemn an entire that country that people from countries all over the world are desperate to become citizens of based on the poor job of some lawyers isn't rational. .Yes, that woman is a psychopath, but her lawyer did a much better job. . .
3 likesIt makes me sick.
0 likesThis is the issue with juries. People are stupid.
0 likesBrad Steiner The US justice system worked the way it was supposed to, not justice. This woman was declared not guilty over the murder of her daughter, which she was very obviously guilty of. That’s not justice, and don’t act like it’s right.
2 likesI remember that day so well. I think I was 14 and I’m 24 now. My jaw dropped on the floor when they found her not guilty. Nacy drew Hates Casey so much. She was grilling her every night
0 likes@kukalakana Not only did the prosecution not do their job, they couldn't do their job because the police apparently didn't get enough in terms of proof and hard evidence to pin it on her irrefutably. I would surmise the police had a lot of circumstantial evidence, which isn't enough for a conviction.
0 likes@Brad Steiner Exactly. A lot of people refuse to understand. Justice is blind. The legal system worked here the way it was intended to. Yes, this woman is a monster. Legally, the prosecution couldn't touch her.
1 like@marikie marie that's the day you knew lol?
0 likes@Jesse H I knew it was coming sooner or later.
0 likesI wouldn't trust to watch my goldfish.
0 likes@HanSDevX I agree, but I would also say also that anyone raised in this irresponsible manner (no punishment for misdeeds, no enforcement of morals, given everything in their life without earning it) is at risk for a deeply flawed character.
0 likesTo be fair, men can be princesses too. :)
@marikie marie I am not saying she is innocent, she sounds very disturbed, a pathological liar, probably a Narcissist, but even if there is any element of doubt, i.e. not enough proof then correctly she should not go to Jail. Think if it was you that did not kill someone. Going to Jail won't bring the child back. Better thousands of guilty released, than Just one Innocent person be imprisoned. She might have killed her daughter, or maybe it misadventure,, or something else might have happened. but we will never know for sure. Prosecution should have done more homework.
0 likes@Father Chrissy actually oj had some race involved in why he was aquited to. The whole black community was behind him and saying they were trying to charge him because he was black. That put pressure on the case
0 likes@Father Chrissy i think you could argue oj simpson had black privilege. Because he had the whole black community and other sjws putting pressure on the case aaying he was beong charged because he was black
0 likes@marikie marie That day was the day I knew "Women are more privileged in America"
0 likes@Mark Crisp you never know. I had an acquaintance who was former MP in the marines he found himself in legal trouble for shooting an armed robber in the back and killing him. You really never know if you're gonna find yourself in legal trouble. Stuff happens.
0 likes@kukalakana Exactly. In my past experience of being on a jury (in Australia), we were instructed by the judge, and backed up by the defence (who was no less than a QC), that we were to assess whether the prosecution had successfully shown and proved intent for the charge, which made our job a lot easier even though we had one lady who was taking a more moralistic Christian view during our deliberations. In our case, the defendant received a not guilty (even from the Christian lady) since the prosecution didn't quite prove that intent. The charge we were dealing with was a grievous bodily harm.
0 likesIf I found out someone's 2-yr old child had been missing/kidnapped for -5- days and she's just now reporting it, I would immediately think she's the worst mother in the world and that she possibly did something. 31 days is just UNREAL
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Casey didnt ever report it, her mother made the 911 call
72 likes@dave cerrito yeah and she also said in the call that she “didn’t have anything to say to them” it’s so sad
39 likesForget 5 days... any normal mother would be apoplectic if their child had been missing for even a few hours. I've seen it in totally innocent situations, like a babysitter taking the kid to the park and not having their cell phone on them. After 24 hours a normal mother is basically unintelligible from the tears and sobbing.
31 likes@Alex A lol i once went straight from school to a friends house and had a sleepover without telling my mom when i was like 6-7 years old. And when I came home she said the cops were looking for me. I got the whooping of my life.
19 likes@Kevin Saviro Exactly. The idea that a mother is going to go partying for a month while her child is missing is so completely alien to what a non-psychopathic mother would do it's almost laughable.
11 likes@Alex A Agree and then think of Madeleine McCann's mother.. went running with her husband and playing tennis immediately after their daughter disappeared. No tears in front of camera crew. Very, very strange behaviour.
8 likesExactly, but why didn't her parents report it earlier? Maccanns got away with it too, all about money
0 likes@Gemma G. Yeah, definitely something wrong there. To play devil's advocate though, their daughter seems to be a party girl, so maybe it's normal behavior for her to go "off the grid" so to speak.
0 likesI wuddnt wait 30 MINUTES if one of my kids had disappeared at a young age! The sheer panic I wud feel wud COMPEL me to call the feds before I cud even THINK of lookn for my missing child! Any parent worth their proverbial "salt" wud do/feel exacly the same!
0 likesshe literally gets away with everything, she bullishits her way out of any consequences successfully
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bullishit
4 likesBeing good looking definitely helped, good looking people pretty much living their lives in easy mode
56 likesAnd thousands of women get away with abortions every year but that never seems to be a problem to the media
55 likes@Tube Guy lmao if you can justify how that opinion is related to the conversation, I'll allow it, if not, go spread your agenda elsewhere :3
109 likes@SoularSystemGG or don't spread your agenda at all 🤔
49 likes@egberts facts
23 likes@Some Dude yes. if this woman was ugly I don't think it would have ended the same.
21 likeswe need to bring back public stonings just for this woman
9 likes@Lil Snitch & DaHomie welcome to the arabic world
3 likes@thrift shop ghost yup wouldn't have been able to "pay" her attorney (that successfully defended her) with sexual favors either since she was jobless at the time.
2 likesHow
0 likes@Linda C Triggered stay mad and sad
2 likesKarma is real lmao
0 likes@Tube Guy based
3 likesMaybe she’s an scp with the ability to manipulate people.
0 likes@thrift shop ghost she is tho
0 likesPeople have sympathy for women, if it were a man the case would have been closed a long time ago.
4 likesYou're pretty
0 likes@NextToLegendary if you told as much lies as this lady then probably
1 like@Tube Guy Dude I’m pro life too but this is SO unnecessary, insensitive and disrespectful. Shut up
6 likes@Linda C hes not wrong though
1 like@Tube Guy agreed, it is really hard to find some value in this when the same crime is commited every day.
2 likes@Elizabeth Grey Every reply is unnecessary, if it is insensitive idk how but why would you even be offended by that and explain how it is disrespectfull.
1 like@mato mrak This person is comparing trauma, saying that women who have abortions are all just evil manipulators and not people in difficult situations being taken advantage of, and by bringing up abortion in a completely unrelated case, it detracts the meaning from the event and comes off as more as a political power move than showing genuine empathy for the child who died. Not to mention the sexist undertones of again, assuming that the millions of women who get abortions are just selfish, cold hearted people. I don’t think abortion is right either but it exists because of an exploitative system and poverty, not because of the whole ‘females just wanna fxck around’ stereotype.
7 likes@Tube Guy facts
1 like@Tube Guy Abortion of fetus (inside the womb) ≠ killing of a baby (outside the womb). Now go back to watching Fox News.
7 likes@thrift shop ghost you know that someone can’t be objectively attractive right? You might not think she’s ugly but someone else working in the department might.
0 likes@Danish Why does it matter if it is outise of womb or inside if there was a way to showe back in a month old baby back inside mother would it be okay to kill it.
0 likes@Where's Waldo??? ? sure, abortion is murder. But what’s the point of comparing the murder of a fetus to the murder of a 3 year old?
2 likes@Lil Snitch & DaHomie I get stoned in public
0 likes@Tube Guy do you mean legal abortions?
1 like@Elizabeth Grey Okay he did not say that all women are manipulators you made that up. And it is not so unrelated in both cases the child dies that is why he probbably said it. He did detract the meaning from event not because he does not feel empathy for the child ( at least i hope so) but because he has empathy for all murdered children. If we can afford to care this much about one murder why cant we care just a little bit more about the murders of arbortion. That is why he said it at least i think. It is not urelated. And what do you mean by sexist undertones he just wrote a two senteces and you found all that stuff in his undertone.
0 likes@mello oh of course. I would say like "traditionally" attractive maybe. it's all subjective, but i think there's like a baseline of what is and isn't attractive to most people. I say this as a subjectively ugly woman: she would have gotten less sympathy from the jurors if she was ugly or older.
0 likes@SoularSystemGG Wym Agenda? I just don’t get abortions man. Just don’t have intercourse. The majority of abortions are caused from the consequences of intercourse. I know what the rebuttal is going to be, rape. But that word has been stretched so much that rape could be anything. I am aware people experience it, and it’s horrible. No one should experience that. Helpless human beings however, should not be violated as well. Have a good day!
1 like@Danish abortion is basically killing a wounded person in a hospital. They are both helpless.
1 likeYeah but you got to admit that is one hell of a lawyer
0 likes@thrift shop ghost I dont know what manipulation are you talking about like maybe he just meant get away with it as get away with it there is no undertone or secret meaning. And nobody is also talking about not being able to go on with your life. We just see abortions something that is not good. And since we are talking about murder why not talk about a similar kind of murder on similar victim.
0 likes@Danish What do you mean a lump of cells. How can you compare a fetus and lump of cells. No doctor would ever call fetus even close to tumor. Like dude what are you talking about.
1 like@Danish so a baby in a womb is a ‘lump of cells’ is what you’re saying. So your basically saying a baby has the same biology as a single cell organism 😂. You can’t be making this up, and it must be a lucky day to talk to the 1 of 12 people with 10 IQ
0 likes@Andrew it's so strange, they literally proved she lied about everything but got away with it... the jury knew she was guilty. They see her cry and everything changes, when a man cries he is weak but when a women cries she is strong. It's a bushit double standard.
1 like@Tube Guy abortion is a medical procedure to dispose a clump of cells, this was a murder of a 3-year-old child. don't even try to compare them.
3 likes@Tube Guy murder of a 3 year old and abortion are far cries from eachother... i understand your feelings on abortion but this is really not the time to bring that up.
2 likes@Tube Guy idk man would you rather have a child grow up in a bad situation and possibly take their own life or make sure they never have to go through that
0 likes@Some Dude she is not and was never good looking...
0 likes@Some Dude he was not good-looking at all, she was a Barfly s***. But the one thing he had was a great great defense attorney. Like it or not and I don't but the lawyer was a very Gifted Man. He knew from day one exactly what he was going to do and when he was going to do it it was all calculated. Every time someone testified against her just made it a lot easier for him to do what he needed to do. She did not get away with murder someday she will pay but Perry Mason give her a little bit more of freedom until that day comes.
0 likesHow is that?? Isn’t she like dead or in prison?
0 likes@nika kaspia a clump of cells, when is a tadpole a frog. Put away gender studies and pay more attention to science class. It's like saying to someone if I kill you in your sleep it's not murder. If you kill a pregnant woman you're charged with two murders. Why is that considered murder under the law? Can't have it both ways.
2 likes@Nick West she got in a bar fight less than a week ago.
0 likes@Nick West no no no no, you only get to try her once. last I heard she was still living in Florida her and her parents do not speak anymore but other than that she got away with it. So so sad that anyone could do that to their own child or any child and get off. The last time I seen anything about Casey Anthony her daughter would have been 13 and she was showing pictures of the ultrasounds of the baby when she was pregnant. Which I thought was odd. But yeah she got by with it
0 likes@Elizabeth Grey maybe its a little upfront. but its the truth. what casey did is just a slight variation of @bortion. k1ll1ng a baby because thier existense poses an inconvenience to your life or lifestyle. (in most casses). the differences here are that what casey did was after the baby was born. Also a lot of mothers feel remorse after the fact, but casey is crazy
2 likesThat people think THAT is ‘good looking’ is half the problem
0 likesIt worked too.
0 likesI forgot she got away with it all... Absolutely disgusting
1 likeCharisma 100
0 likes@nika kaspia Either way, no reason to have an abortion. Most of the time, it’s people dealing with the consequences of intercourse and looking for an easy way out. Honestly, just make better decisions! I know your rebuttal will be rape. I understand, no one should go through that. You can’t however just use rape, as most people abort to avoid the mistake they’ve made, an easy way out. Either way in general, make better decisions!
1 like@Tube Guy wow.
0 likes@nika kaspia not a clumps of cells but I agree that it's not as bad but by that logic you are also just a clump of cells
0 likes@Some Dude bruh, you think she's good looking? 😂
0 likes@ZeSourLemon tell tale sign of a sociopath
0 likes@SoKo ok.
0 likesYes
0 likes@I'm a comedian Oh jeez lol, I'm not saying she is good looking from a personal stand point, but without knowing the shit she's done, she has the features to be conventionally attractive enough to get away with or receive better treatment than others would. Examples: sexual favors to pay for her attorney, a slew of boyfriends even after being released from jail, admirers sending money while she was in jail, she lied about everything yet was still deemed not guilty (ppl generally attribute more positive qualities to ppl they find attractive), there's a damn article (removed after some time) stating she was working out now and had pictures of her new "toned" look
0 likes@mato mrak He said women “get away with abortions” which is very clearly placing the blame on the women. By comparing women who get abortions to Casey and placing the blame on those women, he is essentially calling these women manipulators. Yes in both cases the child dies but in many cases children die and yet we recognize it is wrong to compare trauma. For example, if I posted about how 215 Indigenous children’s bodies were found on a residential school site in Canada (which did really happen), and someone said “free Palestine” or “my child died too” or something like that, we can very clearly see that it is wrong. You’re taking a huge issue and equating it with another very huge but separate issue, therefore taking attention away from the issue currently in discussion. Also abortion, though horrible and immoral, is unfortunately heavily politicized, and bringing up politics in a murder case is bound to come off as insensitive, even if he didn’t mean it that way. Sure, some abortions are had because the woman wants freedom from parenthood or freedom to be irresponsible, but in almost all circumstances of abortion it is much more than just a matter of inconvenience. Poverty, desire to get an education, the pain and potentially permanent injuries that can result from pregnancy and birth, the manipulative tactics of abortion providers, the misleading political climate, the fear of being a bad parent, the fear of being disowned or broken up with are ALL huge issues when it comes to abortion and there are way more. I too went through an “anti feminist” phase (I’m a woman btw) where I believed abortion was purely a selfish and irresponsible decision, but having realized that is false, it’s opened my eyes up to the real world. Overall, the context of these two situations may seem comparable, but it’s also very different in certain ways. Abortion is unfortunately politicized, infanticide is not. Abortion is normalized, infanticide is not. Abortion happens mainly because of circumstance and a lack of education, infanticide in this case was purely out of selfish evilness. Abortion normally happens before the child can feel or mentally process pain. Her child undoubtedly suffered. None of this means abortion is less of an issue- only that the two should not be compared. Please, advocate for the unborn without doing it under the comment sections for a murdered infant and her found-not-guilty mother.
0 likesCasey cried when verdict was read, because she couldn't believe she got away with murder.
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I would to as would anyone else.... but its still cold
21 likesLook at her breathing while listening to the verdict - she is completely hiding/suffocating her emotions in the most emotional moment of her life: even than, she is able to keep on her mask. That takes some practice, she must have rehearsd her whole life.
108 likesPapa Roach sang it best - Getting away with murder!
6 likeswhat are you talking about? She didn't kill anybody. Did you actually watch the video???
3 likes@GTO nope we are all making our own contributions
8 likes@GTO ???
2 likes@GTO she just did though
12 likesShe didn't cry, you completely missed it, she smiled. She couldn't contain her joy when she heard not guilty the first time and started to smile, she caught herself quickly and turned it into her crying with a mix of emotions. The following not-guilty convictions she tried to show a mixed emotion of happy and upset because of her first outburst of joy.
37 likesJust like OJ
6 likes@Manuel Rota I don't think it takes much practice when you do it your whole life.
4 likes@nvm I watched the entire trial when it all went down. I started out indifferent, but by the end of the trial I agreed with the jury. There was never any evidence that Casey killed her daughter. If anything the prosecution arrogantly thought it would be an open/shut case to the point where they went after her in court with no evidence. The jury did make the right call though. The problem with all the folks making comments on here is that they're going off of emotions instead of the facts.
3 likes@John Locy totally agreed. I watched the entire case as it happened, there was never any evidence that she murdered her daughter.
2 likes@Dexter P. you're drinking the koolaid bud, I suggest you watch the entire trial as it happened, and if you have half the intelligence God gave a fly, you'll walk away with the understanding that there was no incriminating evidence. She may have done it, but in a jury one has to ho with the law, and the law is clear where there is no evidence, then one cannot be condemned. People like yourself just let the media think for you instead of going to the source and finding out for yourself.
1 like@Jor Tra yeah I watched it. Sorry to have a different opinion than you but I feel different. She killed her babie
8 likes@Dexter P. no she didn't, that's what the evidence showed. Grow up and get off the emotions
1 like@Jor Tra oh you have a lot of time on your hands too?
8 likesAlright let's do this:
Yes she did
@Jor Tra even if she didn't kill her daughter. She is HAPPY that her daughter is dead and doesn't give two shits about her daughter missing. Why did she never call the police?. The first thing anyone whould do is call the police, She never even asks if they found anything about her daughter because she doesn't care. And on top of that she lied almost everything she said to the police. Why whould she lie to the police that are trying to find her?
14 likesWhos been drinking the kool ais and got easily swayed by emotions? It seems many in here
1 like@Jor Tra So not calling the police for an entire month after a 3 year old went missing, lied about how her daughter went missing, googled suffocation techniques, lied to detectives many times and she's innocent...
13 likes@Chad Kirk bullshitting aside, the law is clear, if there's no evidence to condemn, then we don't condemn. Further, are you actually reading her correctly , or are you only seeing what you want to?
0 likes@nvm did she even call the police or was is her mom ?
3 likes@GTO she killed her what are talking about did you even watch the video
5 likes@Jor Tra no evidence what about the smell in her car it doesn’t make sense that’s body OF A 3 YEAR OLD WAS THERE OFCOURSE IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE without emotion by the lying she is hiding something she made up a whole story and still she’s not guilty
1 likeThis video convinced me she was a murderer. Then I watched a video of her dad talking on day 7 of the trial. Then watched the opening argument of the defense on day 1. Now I'm convinced it was an accident, but her father was the one with most guilt. He left the ladder reachable to Caylee. He was the one deciding not to go to the cops. He had access to the special kind (!!) of duct tape later found on the corpse. He admitted it was an accident to his mistress half a year later and tried to commit suicide a few days after that. I'm pretty sure he also actually raped Casey when she was a child.
0 likes@András Ziegenham that makes 0 sense lol. So he is there and tells her to cover up an accident by saying he is molesting her? Even a terrible cop would have a better plan than that...thats like Forest Gump lvl planning. Even if that was true why didn't he back up her story then? Why would he tell her to cover it up and then throw her under the bus, presenting the most damning evidence to the police himself. He considered suicide because he knew perfectly well Casey is a psychopath, he basically enabled her.
6 likesFurthermore George did not actually admit that "things got out of control" to his mistress. She DID testify to that effect but then later in the testimony also claimed that George had know knowledge of the events.
Casey Anthony does not have the capability to tell the Truth to the point where you can assume that anything she is saying is roughly the opposite of what actually happened. Bitch is stone cold guilty of first degree murder.
#Justice4Caylee
1 like@AFX QUEST lying doesn't look good, but it doesn't mean she murdered her kid, nor does it come close to proving such a thing. Also the smell in the car could of come from many things, also one must prove that the smell was that of a decomposing body and that the body was that of her daughter, and then it would have to be proven or shown how that the smell was present in the car because of Casey Anthony's actions rather than somebody else's, etc. Do you see how you're seeing things in a very shallow, emotional light instead of through the prism of logic, reality, and proper evidence. Having watched the entire trial very closely I'm very pleased with the call the jury made, and you should be also.
0 likes@Morrick you could even see her sigh a breath of relief after the convictions as she could quit having to act. Also her eyes were buggin as she was trying to put together her expressions lol
0 likesAlso is no one going to mention her search history? Look that up, that stuff is real. They found it after the trial because the police didn’t check the Firefox application first(which was what she used most), but instead were looking in the wrong place. Which was internet explorer.
3 likes@Butt Mongrel #Justice4Caylee
0 likesTimestamp?
0 likesHow to get away with murder, literally.
0 likesGod I hope tony isn't to clingy because this girl just won the murder game
0 likesAnyone else notice how at 30:07 she says “I can’t even put towards how glad I am that she’s HAD both of you”
598 likesAnd then she quickly corrects it to “still has both of you”
She already knew her child was dead
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Yeah. Noticed the minute she said that. Smh. I still can't believe this case.
38 likesAs soon as she said that I was like huh was that past tense
26 likesWow
0 likesYeah, but she did admit to know her daughter was dead and she "drowned in a pool"
1 likeExactly!!! I noticed that before reading any comments. She keep saying “had” “has been” then quickly changing it to “still has”
3 likes@•ღcutaepieღ• You know what i don't understad? Let's say her daughter did drown in the pool. She was still found with duct tape around her mouth and nose and thrown in a swamp. What does the police think of that? Isn't that a bit iffy?? Why didn't thy mention that? It really irritates me how half asses this whole case was handled
1 like@Old _Yeller I'm sure 99% of the police knew that and believed she was guilty. Except whatever Detective she started to date later. They clearly saw through the lies and deception. At the end it was the jury that mattered the most and of course are idiots to media's manipulation which plays a heavier role than people think. I think jury should only be trained personnel, completely random and anonymous.
0 likesDuring the trial she played off the sobbing act when her lawyer spoke about her being "Molested" but when the body of her dead child was described she didn't even flinch. Ahh, sociopath at it's finest.
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She looked a bit insane at that moment
9 likes@justin denley How does that have anything to do with liberals?
46 likes@MOsKOn Yeah. It was a lie made up by the lawyer, they were able to keep up the lie because George wasn't there to deny the claims. And even if he were, he'd have no evidence to prove he didn't do anything. Even one of the "witnesses" the lawyer called up was a convicted felon for kidnapping, he lied about Kaylee drowning in the pool. This whole case is messed up.
9 likes@Pete Kachew Wow, imagine your daughter lying about you molesting her as a child for sympathy, that's so fucked up.
19 likesHow do you take that in as a father, I hope both her parents cut off contact with her because at that point it was obvious everything was a fabricated lie and she murdered her child. They can't be that blind, can they?
@Crag Hollywood is very liberal and a nest for child predators.
1 likeShe was raped by her dad she was jel of her daughter for you can imagine why
0 likes@🍩 r e p l y Yeah, her dad immediately cut ties with her after he saw the trial. He was one of the most prominent figures defending her and saying that she was innocent too. I feel bad for her parents, yeah they spoiled her and didnt properly punish her when she'd do something bad, but they genuinely did want to believe in her innocence; even when all the evidence was stacked against her.
10 likes@Panteni87 it's also very warm, how does that fit into your mental argument?
2 likesMiss you JCS!!!
0 likesThis case literally makes me sick, the evidence was STACKED against her and still Caylee never got justice. Casey does not deserve to be called a mother, she is a monster, and everyone who found her innocent should be ashamed that they are that stupid to let her live her "happiest" life
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She can't be happy how could she. Who's gonna party with her. She's not a Mom anymore. She's nothing now. If I was the Judge I would order an Oophorectomy for Casey
3 likes@Satania d'Villa life is unfair and she might be happy right now, and yes I hate it, but what can we do
3 likes@Mindblow We can't do nothing nobody really cares how we feel If the poor and the unfortunate kill their own young they will get convicted and most will say it's poor people's problems Really the criminals has to deal with it, Right?? We have a clear conscious the killers really don't and eventually a killer will crack.
0 likesHer karma will get her, what goes around comes around
9 likes@Satania d'Villa being a psychopath LITERALY means that you have no remorse at all and that you are perfectly happy with every harm you do against other people. She's way happier than me or you.
17 likesThey didnt had evidence for first degree murder but we all know she killed her child.
0 likes@edraith that's not what being a psychopath means at all...
2 likesThey can still be remorseful about how things went down, or how they were handled, or that they might have even gone about things more efficiently.
I haven't watched the case and while I am pretty sure that she's guilty, at the same time it is not 100% guaranteed. Was the child asphyxiated or drowned? Different cause of death. If she drowned, then was there actually tape covering her airways? This was mentioned once, then nothing further in the video, same with the pool, but both don't coincide well together.
As for her actions after the fact, it's entirely 'possible', however inplausible that she drowned by accident and the girl panicked, leading to her taking the actions she did. The whole partying thing may have been as stated, to try and gain some form of normality if she was spiralling and didn't know how to handle it, so reverted to past mechanisms, much like someone may turn to alcohol or drugs to mask pain.
The diary excerpt may have been her trying to pen her forced thoughts to tell herself that it was the truth
Do I believe any of the above? God no... But the entire point is it's 'without a doubt'. If there are room for doubts, then there simply wasn't enough evidence against her, regardless of how what evidence they did have was painted.
@Grigeral Lack of empathy, remorse and fear is what mainly defines psychopathy.
2 likesYour other thoughts are extremely well put and well expressed and I am personally on the same page that those should not be held true in this case.
@edraith Thanks. I still believe she's guilty and I feel in any other court room, she'd have been found as such. I genuinely think that her lawyer must have had exceptional skills and making people doubt the things in front of them. It's also quite terrifying that this woman got off scot-free with what looks like it should have been a clear cut case under normal circumstances.
0 likesAny one of the points I made could indicate an innocent, if eccentric, trait. But when you combine all of them together, it's pretty damning.
But the reason I gave them in the first place was because I've seen a number of people over different videos condemning the jury, which I don't really think is fair if you weren't there to understand how their own minds were affected by it (just FYI, I'm not saying you were implying that, just what I've seen generally).
i googled where CA is now. she IS happy. she's with the private detective from her case. she has a job. in August 2020 she gave the AP an interview. she said she would be "dumb" to have another child because that child would get picked on by other children because of "the case"
3 likesMandaLa 314
1 like“With” as in dating? Friends with?
The calmness she displays when she pretends to think her daughter is missing is the most disturbing to me. I lost sight of my son at the park for a moment last week and I was screaming running looking for him. He had just run up a nearby hill and was blocked by a tree but omg. And when they're with their dad and I don't speak to them... it's a hollow feeling when they're gone, your world goes black with terror when you lose them just for a second. This woman is on borrowed time.
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I don't even have kids, but if I'm out with friends and look around and can't locate one of their children for a second, I feel like I'm about to have a heart attack. I don't understand how parents live longer than people without children.
101 likes@Heather Spoonheim When Casey talked on the phone with her friend Christine she was definitely distraught, whereas Casey was like "omg such a waste of time"
51 likesWhen I was 5 me and my family went out on a trip to a park that has many rentable bikes. There where many people there so I had my nanny and brothers to keep an eye on me. So I was in my bike which I rode throughout a good length of the road alone, I hopped out of my bike at the other end and decided to do whatever. I walked around alone for a while, eventually I walked back to my bike and my brothers saw me and my mom was in tears. Apparently, they where keeping an eye on me throughout the whole trek and lost sight of me halfway through due to the volume of people. After some time I didn't return they began to panic fearing the worst. My mom never wants to go to that park ever again, really scarred her.
12 likesI have a little sister and smts when she's playing with smn for example and i look away and look back and she's suddenly out of sight, my heart just starts racing withing 0.1 seconds. so ya, that calmness is really f***ing disturbing. wtf
5 likesI'd imagine that's how a regular mom would react.
1 like"This woman is on borrowed time." - Why? Because she is not a helicopter mother?
2 likesI went to fetch my daughter from my next door neighbors house and nobody was there so I frantically called and they said they had left and Claire had went home and it felt like my whole body was on fire and I could hear my heartbeat in my ears. My knees felt weak and my hands stung they were so shaky. I immediately ran to my neighbors across the street for help and she was there! She got punished for not telling me where she went but it was an important lesson to learn. I never want to feel that way ever again!
4 likesThat’s just called being an emotional woman.
0 likesThat frantic feeling rushes over you in an instant and it's almost impossible to hide. My 6 year old daughter walked away from me in a store a couple weeks ago and thought she'd test some boundaries by not answering when I called her. After the second time of her not coming and answering to her name I started yelling it and left my cart to search for her. My stomach dropped and she finally answered me when she could hear how worried my voice was.
2 likes@kay Watching these type films about these type people is informative but so depressing.
2 likes@Sara “OMG like I really need to talk to my potential partner in crime right now, stop wasting my time 👞👞👞, yeah yeah cry over my daughter, such a waste of time”
0 likesfacts
0 likesAnd the way she is able to craft these meticulous lies and weave this sinister story are both signs of psychopathy.
1 like@besorgter Burger
5 likesWhat?
I panicked more than this person when my dog runs off and I thought I lost her
0 likesI wanted to throw up when I saw her smiling as the detectives were talking to her about that little angel. Acting like she was at a coffee shop with her friends. I'm sick to my stomach.
1 like@redlightflash She is methodically evil in her intent.
0 likes@Fremen You may be right. I am not a lawyer though. You know more about this than I do.
0 likesIs no one discussing the fact that the defence claimed that Casey was sexually abused by her farther? I don't want to minimise it if it actually happened but If this is a lie like everything else she said, then this is the second worst thing she has ever done. Imagine being her father giving her support and then be hit by that just so your sociopathic daughter can get off scot free.
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Agreed
45 likesI didn't understand what was the penalty for her after all?
8 likes@Sanay rj the way i understood it, she was declared completely innocent due to lack of evidence, meaning there is no penalty at all
84 likes@Sanay rj nothing she walks away free
1 like@Andyy L I wouldn't doubt it as a father I would be pissed!
1 likeShe's a compulsive liar. She's been getting away with lying her entire life.
75 likes@Andyy L oh my God did he actually
0 likes@Andyy L No he didn't, he is still alive. He got wasted and texted some people that he was going to kill himself but he didn't. Stop trying to make this family of baby killers seem sympathetic.
63 likes@Andyy L He didn't kill himself, stop reading youtube comments and taking them as fact
35 likesThere are people who were only touched by their father in a normal loving way, and then they lie about being raped in childhood... Or even worse, accusing someone else at a party who they just accidentally bumped into, or was a friend who just kissed his lady friend on the cheek, and then accusing them for rape... That's what's truly fucked up...
10 likesThat was the only moment I saw that there could have been something deeper in Kaileey's words. How possible would it be for her to grow up like this in a healthy family? I'll copy paste a theory that I found at least interesting from another comment - .... never involving kid’s dad in this is kinda weird. And are we sure she is lying about her dad? Idk. I feel like there are a lot of things that jury didn’t disclose to media. Maybe she was cold blooded inhuman person cuz of her kid being her dad and her?
5 likes@Ruthless RiderR6 she had a good lawyer🤦♀️
3 likes@Hanf Peter this is so bad although they had this much of evidence by her actions before the court she still got away
3 likes@Sanay rj ik it's insanely unfair
1 like@Hanf Peter yes it is
2 likesIf she didn't kill her then who did? They didn't try to find that person after she rescued
@Mimi nope even in a healthy household people can still do stupid things outside of the house like skipping college or doing street fights whatever
3 likes@Andyy L he did not kill himself. He attempted suicide he claims. But stopped or woke up
3 likes@Sanay rj obstruction of Justice for lying to police. And basically she got time served because she was remanded.
3 likesits a lie. this never happened and it's sickening that she even allowed it to happen I can't imagine how badly that broke their lives
1 likeAndyy L no he didn’t - he is alive and was on dr.Oz just two years ago
1 likePart of me wonders if it was punishment of some kind because he was the parent who wasn’t going along with her bullshit. She’s never gone after her mom because she’s protected her and defended her lies
3 likes@Maha mohsen what?
1 likeYeah, people are discussing that.
0 likes@Flappy Hands Why do you think their whole family are baby killers?
1 likeYeh it caught me completely in different zone. Fuk what was that sudden argument about sexual abuse where did that came from like w t h was that. It was disgusting how he discussed but it would be like death if it was a lie for her father who loved her.
0 likesI was thinking about that claim they made. True or not, though I find it hard to believe because of her clear compulsive lying, it doesn't explain anything else about the daughter being "kidnapped" or why the car smelled like a corpse, or even why the body was found in the manner it was. It all seems to me like Casey wasn't ready to be a parent and felt the best way to deal with it was to kill her child, who she was probably already neglecting, and just lie through her teeth. This wasn't just on a whim, the woman planned this. Though it was crappy planning, somehow she knew that she would get away with it, especially if she claimed something that would point to her being put in this situation by some traumatic situation. I honestly believe that she made up the whole molesting because she wanted sympathy. She lied about everything else, and not in a normal at way for when your child goes missing. I mean, she could've been telling the truth for once in her life, but after everything else she lied about and how casually she did so, it's not likely her story was true at any point.
2 likesIf it meant saving my daughter from the death penalty, I would have probably ran with it.
0 likesImagine leaving your child with a babysitter nicknamed Xanny
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its a code word, for her using “xanax” and giving it to her kid to put her to sleep so she could go clubbing
0 likes@tate victoria yeah I know it's a joke
0 likesShe Googled “foolproof suffocation” hours before her daughter was suffocated... GUILTY; next.
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Jamie Ferguson She goggled ALOT of things AND HER MOTHER SAID SHE HERSELF DID IT! What in gods name.
376 likesThat evidence was unfortunately not presented at the trial. That being said, the jury was stupid enough to probably still give a not-guilty verdict.
562 likesThe timeline of the Anthony family didn't match up for Casey doing that search which is why it wasn't presented at trial. Baez would have jumped on it as another flimsy piece of evidence.
60 likesIt doesn't matter what the juries personal opinions are of her, they can only make a decision on the evidence provided during the trial & if there was enough evidence to prove beyond all reasonable doubt if someone is guilty or not. Its a hard thing to do to ignore your personal & gut feelings to do the job of a juror correctly, this is why lawyers screen & questions potential jurors. If jurors were allowed to make decisions from their own personal feelings & opinions there would be an awful lot of injustice & vice versa. I assume there are many people who have been a juror for awful crimes & believed that someone was guilty but had no choice to decide innocence based on the evidence or lack of it. There are many problems that can occur when a juror lets their personal feelings make their decision.
141 likes@Catherine Yes, precisely, though I think a whole lot of juries base their judgements on their emotions and the stories told by DAs (especially in Texas) and the miscarriages of justice are many. The job of the jury is to judge the evidence, not the story.
39 likesThe time of death was uncertain given the decomposition of the body. No one saw Caylee alive after the 9th when she searched for foolproof suffocation but she claims the drowning occurred on the 16th. That explains away her journal and internet search history. It's not a believable lie given the physical evidence.
35 likes@Mike Sirname Because the timeline that the DA set up at trial showed that only George, Casey's father, could have done that search. The DA had to choose what theory of the crime they presented at trial and the search didn't fit into their theory so they left it out. Baez would have jumped on it if they presented it as another piece of flawed evidence by the DA.
13 likes@Mike Sirname because lawyers spin stories. They use or neglect evidence to fit their narrative. The full truth never sees the light of day.
30 likes@Abe Buckingham It was for the prosecution to claim, and then prove, that for the jury, which they did not. It would have opened up a whole new area of doubt which Baez would have jumped on. They were extremely inhibited by the decomposition of the body for creating a believable timeline - but they only have their own cops to blame for that.
4 likes@Geostrategic Insights i'm always annoyed by people who attack juries. They are random people that are plucked out their day to day lives and burdened with the task of making a tough decision with someone's life. Plus, the presentation of the trial is unique to them only, they are only privy to certain details. It's easy to sit back with hindsight and all of the available information from the press and pass judgement on them. A not guilty verdict is the prosecution's fault. End of story.
44 likesWhite woman + Really good defense = not guilty unfortunately.
32 likesI Google stuff like that all the time, but never plan on hurting anyone.
9 likesCircumstantial at best.
@Artlover Thanks for the new information! Yes, the investigators and the prosecutors were incompetent which should be where the scorn of the public should be focused. Our justice system isn't going to get any better with players like these bozos.
6 likesYep, case closed for me.
4 likesoliviatree - Not true. That’s why jury nullification exists.
3 likes@Mike Sirname Wow! France is going to jury-less trials??? So judges will ultimately have all authority over criminal trials? Interesting. I know that Salic Law, as opposed to Common Law, is very different. On the one hand, the trials are not sensationalized like they are in the UK and USA. On the other, no judgement by one's peers just feels...wrong, to me. ;)
5 likesThat's a name of a band
0 likes@Dark Passenger That's the rub: Too much circumstantial and not enough direct evidence. In following the letter of the law, the jury came up with the only decision they could, unfortunately. The prosecution failed.
9 likesExcept the State claimed that Casey used chloroform to incapacitate Caylee. Where did she obtain the chloroform? How did she dispose of it? Why bother with chloroform at all if she was just going to suffocate Caylee? The State never answered these questions.
10 likes@HeyLook ItsABirdItsAPlaneNoItsAReallyLongUsername What about O.J.?
5 likes@oliviatree Feels scary.
0 likes@iBot Money.
0 likesGeostrategic Insights why wasn’t that evidence of the google search not presented? Genuine question not sure if I missed something
0 likes@HeyLook ItsABirdItsAPlaneNoItsAReallyLongUsername but he's not a white woman
4 likes@iBot Hes rich.
1 like@Catherine Actually, the selection of a juror is very much psychologically driven. Also, you would be shocked at how much a jury is not permitted to see or know. It is surprising to me that so many are actually convicted of anything given the limited scope of whst can be presented to a jury. It is not easy to find people who have no awareness of current affairs and local news, ie ignorant
4 likesI watched a review of this trial by Marcia Clark who said the reason why a few of the incriminating search terms weren't presented was because one of the prosecution's team researchers searched only one search engines, but missed checking another search engine during the trial. After the trial was over, the prosecution team discovered there was more incriminating keyword searches done under this secondary search engine. Too late to present at that time..
6 likes@Mike Sirname So interesting. Thanks for that. Again, I see the benefits of both systems. Too many juries in this country are manipulated into bad verdicts, and DA's hide evidence whenever they can. I feel there is way too much emotion in the USA that gives the public a voice at trials which is detrimental to the law and fairness. I had lawyer friends when I lived in Germany and their training was much more rule based than the US system but that did take the power somewhat out of the hands of individuals, even judges who were only given authority based on extensive legal knowledge rather than trial procedure. I think that the legal system of the USA is vastly different from anywhere else in the world. The only benefit of our system I can see is that any case, absolutely any case at all, can set precedent that has far reaching implications under our system. Again, thanks for the explanation!
1 like@Jeffrey Bone I agree 100%.
0 likes@Geostrategic Insights That evidence would very likely have caused one juror to refuse to agree to any verdict other than guilty. Then the rest of the jurors fall in line or there's a mistrial and they can try again.
0 likes@The Betty Strong Encounter Someone in that house looked up how to make it. That is not in dispute. Unfortunately, the state could not prove that it was Casey. However, they did they find it in the trunk of the car? How did it get there? Also, why did the trunk of the car smell like a decomposing body (the garbage did NOT make that smell). Yet more unanswered questions. The prosecution failed Caylee.
8 likesThat wouldn't have worked anyway, because when you search for "foolproof suffocation" you will find that the whole page is filled with articels about some girl named Casey...
4 likesShe should run for president
3 likestoo bad the jury and judge hadn't finished the 3rd grade.
3 likes@Mike Sirname The state fucked up incredibly and didn't check one of the browser's history. The defense was expecting the evidence and came up with a lie to refute. This was all discovered later on. More evidence would prove ONLY Casey was home and able to do those searches concerning full-proof suffocation. It's pure luck she got away with it. The day she was arrested is the day she deleted all the history.
4 likes@Dark Passenger MOST cases are solved via circumstantial evidence. Perhaps you should stop watching tv shows where they pretend all cases are solved via forensics.
4 likesDefence would have simply claimed that she was feeling suicidal.
1 like@Artlover There's no evidence that Casey or anyone else connected to the case had the knowledge or equipment to synthesize chloroform. It's absurd to suggest that Casey was cooking up chloroform in a secret laboratory when she could have just drugged Caylee with OTC meds. Huge misstep by the State.
3 likes@The Betty Strong Encounter Agreed. They should have concentrated on the suffocation searches instead.
2 likesI agree that she was guilty. But you just watched a video about how a murderer got away with it, and presumably that wouldn’t be enough to convict you if someone you knew died or disappeared. No single internet search item proves anything. Neither does some facial expression, speech pattern, or whether she acted as you think someone should. Put together, you are starting to develop a case.
3 likesNew evidence such as this would be possible grounds for a retrial. Even if a murder trial is over, someone can still be trialed again if fresh evidence is discovered.
1 like@Mike Sirname Well since you are asking...I was arguing/discussing a certain feminist topic on another forum where someone contended that English Common Law was the most woman friendly code of laws ever formed ever. So my huffy ass had to go research the various forms of early legal codes in Europe and their implications for modern jurisprudence. Fun stuff. Not lying. And no, English Common Law is not the most feminist friendly legal code in early times. Castilian law is much better, the law that was transported to most of Latin America. Even Islamic laws were more feminist than the English. So I learned about Salic Law which had a huge impact on Europe overall (and caused many a war over succession) and still echoes through the culture as authority based law, as does Roman Law which is very prevalent in places like Germany.
1 like@Mike Sirname You are very welcome. The most interesting set of laws was Castilian, which gave women rights of ownership and negotiation. This is probably due to Queen Isabella being prominent and in competition with the Muslims of the southern half of Spain who allowed women the same rights. They were extremely progressive for the time.
1 like@Mike Sirname Yes, women could inherit independently of their brothers, husband and sons from their fathers. Yes, widows were entitled to at least some of the wealth if their husbands died (I'm not going to say all, because titles came with inheritance and that definitely went to eldest sons. Widows did have rights of inheritance, however and possibly support from their sons, if I recall correctly.) To start looking into this, maybe look into the history of Aragorn and the lands that were conferred upon the daughter of Ferdinand and Isabella.
1 likeDark Passenger 🤨
0 likes@Mike Sirname de rien et À bientôt!
0 likes@Dark Passenger only is such events didnt actually occur. IF you search for how to acid down a body... THEN your nieghbor who you have been feuding with goes missing... THAT is not circumstancial.
2 likes"acquittal after acquittal after acquittal. until the stench of it rises so high it chokes the whole f in lot of them"
2 likesThat is the main problem with this type of documentary. They always present the evidence to support their opinion in this case guilty. In the end, common sense tell you that if jurors found her not guilty, there is 99 % chance that we would have come to the same conclusion.
1 like@Jeffrey Bone In the U.S. once you've been acquitted of a crime you can't be tried for that crime again. Statements made in opening and closing arguments are not facts and are not evidence. Attorney's get a great deal of leeway in their statements made in court and his statement was based on what his client told him. Since she doesn't have to take the stand, she doesn't have to give evidence to support the accusation.
2 likes@Stained Glass "evidences of human decomposition" would have resulted in dna, which could have easily been matched to Caylee. You're merely talking about the mention of a stench. That's not evidence of human decomposition. It's barely admissable in court as part of a witness testimony, but would not be considered an actual piece of evidence.
1 likeI'm not saying she didn't kill Caylee, but based upon the evidence, you cannot convict her of first degree murder. If we did off of such a lack of evidence, lots of people could be convicted of murders and crimes they didn't commit. (We know those in the cases to which I'm referencing didn't commit the crimes because we've found more evidence to prove otherwise.)
Jamie Ferguson Oh you poor naive fool. Imagine a justice system where people are prosecuted based on circumstantial evidence like google searches.
1 likeWhat other evidence do you love in this way? IP logs? Equally broken evidence that doesn’t prove a thing.
Google searches don’t mean anything! They are circumstantial and that’s as far as it goes. Christ.
He didn’t mention the chloroform searches that were found on her pc.
0 likesIt’s like OJ. You knew he did it but they didn’t prove it.
1 likeJudge/Jury were really this dumb?!
1 likeoliviatree WRONG it totally matched up as mom was at work during the searches and Casey was logged in using her account.
0 likesoliviatree nope this is wrong information. Completely wrong.
1 likeoliviatree Casey is that you???
1 likeArtlover That’s total bs. If you watched the trial and read the mountain of evidence you’d know that. Circumstantial evidence is just as strong as forensic evidence. Only the ignorant think convictions are only made with DNA.
0 likesJury=clueless
1 likeSo, what I'm confused around here is the narration of the video and the message. Aside from obvious reasons to disbelieve Casey Anthony I'm trying to understand how the narrator speaks with authority and certainty regarding diagnoses such as sociopathy or pathological lying. Not because I belive it's not true (I agree with the ideas), but more because of the certainty in the delivery here. Has there been some previous diagnosis of Casey, or perhaps have I misunderstood the nature of the video as more factual, when in fact what it's intended as is one person's well educated, (but not clinically diagnosed) view of what the 'something' about casey is? I'm certainly not criticising, just curious about the production's intent.
0 likes@Just a Texas Girl messed up search results dosen't mean automatic murder im sure everyone in this chat would be in jail if thats the case
0 likesThat could have been a search, by either Casey or her father, to find a way to stage the (already dead) body to look like a murder in case it was ever found. Just another theory...
0 likes@Ellen Raine true
0 likes@Ellen Raine it would be a great way to take advantage of caseys lying under pressure
0 likesit would diffidently make her the number 1 suspect but you need actual evidence that she killed her child like a eye witness or video of the killing or dumping of the body or a confession if she is convicted of killing her child on that alone it is like me saying you looked up suffocation and you killed her child
0 likes@N. D. M. I am not from the USA so I was under the impression that you could bring a re-trial. People seriously need to speak up against such a corrupt legislation...
0 likes@00 00 I completely disagree. The founding fathers of the USA put that in the original Constitution for a Wise and Just reason. Again, the objections show a lack of history education.
0 likes@N. D. M. But if new evidence comes up, what about the victim and their families right to a new trial? What about justice the safety of the community? If fresh evidence presents itself that this woman could have murdered her daughter it is strongly in the public's interest for her to be put back on trial and jailed if she is found guilty. For her to remain at large if a court can prove that she actually murdered someone is a huge miscarriage of justice. I don't know how this goes against the concept of liberty and justice at all. It's perfectly fair. Sitting one trial should not make someone exempt from another if fresh evidence comes forward.
0 likes@00 00 life isn't fair. Second, the US was built on freedoms and individuality, not justice and community. The victims can always sue them if they find or think there is enough evidence. That has a lower threshold of required evidence while not including incarceration or a death penalty. For instance, see what happened to O.J. Simpson. The rule exists to stop the government from harassing citizens by coming up with all kinds of "new" evidence, real or imagined, to re-trial until they get what they want. It avoids the kangaroo court system that European Monarchies and Tyrants (one and the same in the mind of the founding fathers) used against those they didn't like. "That didn't stick? Well what about this? That didn't stick? Well what about this?" It also helps avoid mob justice in the courts that this comments section is filled with. Also, it allows for nolification or the idea that the people can override laws they disagree with by jury decisions; and the government can't retaliate. The philosophy is built on maximum freedom and rights of all individuals (including the accused or even guilty so the innocent won't suffer indignities or worse), not on justice that is subjective.
0 likesNot guilty. She googled "foolproof" like you said. Thats an accurate search result
0 likesAnd what she wrote in her journal saying she made the right decision and hope her happiness continue. GUILTY !
0 likesCatherine ...you’re full of it. The directive is not “beyond all ...”, it is “beyond a reasonable doubt”. What does this mean? It means your doubt cannot be unreasonable. The jurors heard nothing reasonable to suggest it wasn’t pre-meditated murder. But the defense was slicker than owl sh_t on an ice flow when he said “they must ‘prove’”. He deceived the jury. The prosecution never has to ‘prove’. They only must show that there is no ‘reasonable’ doubt.
2 likesit’s her moms fault Casey grew up to be this sociopathic girl, but now we see it led to Casey being a psychopath.
1 likeWasn't there any autopsy to find water in the child's lungs? Then the Defence's case would fall apart
0 likes@vinsanity982 agreed. Well said
0 likes@Just a Texas Girl exactly! I swear the jurors got paid or something
0 likesyou should look at all the casey videos on YARtv on youtube they show how the case was faked!
0 likesN. D. M. What makes a group of men 200 years ago fit to say what is wise and just in today’s age a lot of the stuff they wrote was vague for the sole reason of trying to make those rules as relevant for as long as possible that’s a fact unfortunately the fact they are vague give the opportunity of criminals to weasel their way out
0 likesJorel Decker very right she was willing to throw her own father under for her own gain and all that stems from the fact they were soft on her, regardless of being a sociopath (which is actually rewarded in our community) she is a disgusting human being and beyond a fake person. But I would like to know more about her psychological evaluations something isn’t right
0 likesBruce Sanders you just proved the point of the defense honestly everyone can twist the words of law for their own gain beyond reasonable doubt was made to seem like it had to be beyond all doubt but in reality the hourly was incapable of thinking for them selves. Any person that can think would know nothing is beyond all doubt honestly even stuff we believe as fact can be spun a different way
0 likesIt was never brought up in the trial
0 likesIkr
0 likes@Geostrategic Insights why was the Google evidence not available for the jury? x
0 likes@Just a Texas Girl I think that was to get rid of her mom cause she was gonna ask about Caylee and couldn’t dodge I contact in person like the jail visit
1 like@clerp Why do you assume they didn't?
0 likes@00 00 //New evidence such as this would be possible grounds for a retrial. Even if a murder trial is over, someone can still be trialed again if fresh evidence is discovered.//
0 likesNot in the US. Indeed, not in any jurisdiction I know of that operated under the English Law tradition.
And it is 'tried again'. 😊
@clerp Who said they had intellect?
0 likes@Bryan Hann exactly
0 likes@clerp So your reply does not answer my question.
0 likes@Bryan Hann If new evidence came forward that this woman did kill her daughter she would just get away with it? Wouldn't it be re opened as a fresh case? I have seen trials get thrown out in the uk where I am originally from and then re set. I just seems ludicrous to me that they would allow a criminal to get off scott free. New evidence means a new case. If she went to police now and said "I did it,I killed my daughter" you are telling me they would just tell her she was free to go? The prosecution authority would bring a new case if they had new evidence. It would be a new set of proceedings.
0 likes@00 00 If found guilty, a new trial could me ordered that might reverse the conviction. But if found not guilty, the tried person cannot be tried on the same charges. I believe this is the case in all Commonwealth countries.
0 likes//The prosecution authority would bring a new case if they had new evidence. It would be a new set of proceedings.//
I am sorry to inform you that it does not work this way. Now if the tried person testified that they did not commit a crime and later admitted to committing the crime, this admission could be used in a charge of perjury -- but not in a charge related to the original crime. (If charged only with murder, and the jury found the charged person not guilty, they may not then me charged with a lesser crime of manslaughter.)
I hope this helps! 🤣🤣🤣
@Bryan Hann that's what I'm saying. The prosecution authority would bring fresh charges. It wouldn't be the same case, they would have to open a new case based on the new investigation.
0 likesshe definitely killed that poor baby
0 likes@Richard P she was a skeleton by the time they found her in the swamp.
0 likes@Geostrategic Insights why wasnt that evidence presented, surely they need all the evidence they can get?
0 likesgenuinely curious
@Artlover Not true. "REASONABLE" doubt. If direct evidence were a must for conviction, then nobody who disposes of the body beyond recovery would be convicted. Circumstantial can rise above reasonable doubt. This case is one of them.
0 likes@Dark Passenger so why do you google things like that all the time if you don’t think of hurting anyone??
0 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
0 likes@J B Please, I'm not saying convictions don't happen with circumstantial evidence alone. I'm saying the bottom line is the prosecution could not convince THIS jury "beyond a reasonable doubt" (mainly due to a failure to prove the cause of death) that the charges were worthy of a guilty verdict. Circumstantial or forensic, it just wasn't enough. Though only two of the twelve jurors could not be convinced, in the end that's all that mattered.
0 likes@oliviatree If the job of the jury is to judge the evidence not the story, why is the trial then presented in such a story telling manner? Why isn't it then presented in a rigid mathematical manner? Do you know what I mean?
0 likes@Yousef AlSharif Ideally, the jury would hear a story of the crime that is backed up by rigid and irrefutable evidence. Ideally. What often happens is the jury forgets that evidence is a necessary component and vote on the most dramatic or sensationalistic or lurid story. The state most famous for sending people to prison, or to death row, based on the emotions elicited by a collective story is Texas. There a a crap ton of innocent people in prison in Texas just because the prosecution presented a story that conformed to the narrative that the jury found true "in their gut" rather than through evidence.
0 likesUsing story format is mostly because that is how humans tend understand the world - through narrative. But to put someone in prison, there MUST be evidence to support that ruling or we're still living in the same world that burned witches.
@Just a Texas Girl dont use the Lords name in vain
0 likes@brii Girl..I didn’t even say God’s name!
0 likesShe is American woman, NOT GUILTY. Next
0 likesi got jodi arias vibes from the first videotaped interview (@33:00) 😭😵💫
0 likesusually when people lie (even good liars), your bullshit meter can detect SOMETHING to an extent. but casey’s ability to make up people and tell completely fake stories is so seamless and natural. it’s terrifying to think that people like this exist
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The other apex predator
7 likesThey sell you used cars...
22 likesGuess you’ve never met a banker or a politician.
13 likesLana j you are so beautiful!
1 likeExcept she’s so terrible at alibis and improvising. Crazy how cops caught her in the act of wasting their time going to fake addresses and pretending she works at Universal and she tries to lie her way out of that.
11 likes@pillowbugg >8
0 likesI hate to say this but it's a freaking talent !
2 likesIdk people still haven’t figured out that it’s not mango in the ice cream I make
0 likesIt's so obvious that she was lying after showing a complete lack of emotions, and even telling her best friend that they are useless when she started crying. I'm truly shocked that she got away with this. I mean how is all of this not enough evidence? And where is the father? This case seems very suspicious to me in many aspects, more than just the made-up stories...
1 likeTalent.
0 likesSome people are just like this. Pathological liers exsist and will exsist. Now the real question is...what will you do when u encounter one?
0 likesShe was always that way since middle school smh
0 likesShe had a month to figure out her story
0 likesThe way she moves her arms are as artificial as when you do debate there is no emotion here
0 likesThe phone calls, Caylee’s clothes, Casey’s debunked lies, the car, not a single call to police until her mom did it for her, the surveillance footage from that same day Caylee went missing, using her name in PAST tense with her parents for a few seconds or so, her search history the day Caylee was last seen showed homicidal intent, especially when you learn about the duct tape covering her airways, she went and partied for the entire time after, the diary entry written BY CASEY saying that she made the “right choice” after her daughter “went missing”, and the body was found not even 2 miles from the house. The defence tried to say she drowned, when again, there was duct tape over Caylee’s airways upon her discovery. AND YET, WITH ALL OF THIS CLEAR EVIDENCE, THEY DECIDED SHES NOT GUILTY???
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Yeah, it's a horrible decision but the way the 'justice system' works unfortunately. For some reason, the prosecutors went after a 1st Degree Murder charge which I believe means a premeditated act. Which is apparently extremely hard to prove. Even though she did google searches before hand, there's still a possibility for that being innocent (I was listening to a true crime podcast and searched something they spoke about etc) all the strange shit she did after, the lies, the diary etc, the not calling the police all doesn't prove she planned and acted on killing her daughter, so the jury found her not guilty of this. If it was second degree murder or manslaughter, she mostly likely would have been found guilty and sentenced to prison. However proving she planned it wasn't possible through the courts. I guess the prosecutors wanted her to get as long in prison as possible so went for the maximum charge with the longest time, but this ended up working against them. I have no doubt she killed her daughter, but I believe the jury was 'correct' in their judgement, I'm sure they all knew she did it, but in the court and the evidence, its not enough to prove intent. Plus a lot probably wasn't admissible etc. Disgusting all around and the system needs changed.
103 likes@Charlie D 1:06:23 "aggrevated child manslaughter" that turned out not guilty too?!
48 likes@Charlie D If they can't prove it was premeditated, how can the system be so that then the verdict is "not guilty" instead of maybe the judge changing the charge to 2nd degree and not premeditated? Makes no sense to me.
37 likes@Charlie D yeah only her confession would be enough evidence for 1st degree
4 likesAnd that her dad, a former cop, reported that the car smelled like a dead body.
16 likes@Charlie D the jury was correct in their judgement? I want what you're smoking
6 likes@Charlie D that makes no sense even though they were going for first degree murder the jury could have come back with a verdict of second-degree non premeditated they didn't need to let her go because they couldn't prove it with premeditated
2 likes@Olavi Murto makes no sense to me either there are people that have been taken up on first-degree murder charges that end up with manslaughter instead so why not in this case?
1 like@Leah vapes86 The jury can’t pass their own verdict or sentencing, they can only vote on whether the defendant is guilty of the charges presented. In this case the prosecution had to prove it was 1st degree murder beyond any reasonable doubt, which includes clear preconceived intent. That’s already very difficult to prove and with this there wasn’t enough physical evidence to prove it was 1st degree.
11 likesNow if the prosecution had ONLY charged her with manslaughter or child negligence I think she would’ve been found guilty, since there was sufficient evidence to prove it. But the defense got the jury to feel sorry for her troubled life of sexual abuse and focused on Casey’s character assassination by the media & prosecution. Once the seeds of doubt and confusion were planted in the jury it was enough. This whole case was drawn out and overblown getting national media coverage so I’m sure the jury felt a lot of pressure as well. In the end I believe they decided that any guilty ruling would be unfair and a result of the prosecution using the death of a child to make them feel angry at Casey instead of using the evidence to prove it. Also, juries are more likely to vote either “guilty on all counts” or “not guilty on all counts” instead of compromising, so that’s probably why Casey got to walk.
@Wrath apparently the only part the jury was listening to was that Casey's dad allegedly sexually abused her in the past
6 likes@MerkMD If it was just 1-2 things, it would be a coincidence, but all the shit put together is more than enough evidence.
6 likes@Olavi Murto because the prosecution didn't even take into consideration that it was second degree they only persued first degree which made second degree out of the question entirely. The only way I can see how she could have possibly walked out of that courtroom a free woman is if she sold her soul.
2 likes@Ana Alves 😂
1 like@MerkMD This is a good point... But it seems like more evidence COULD have been obtained. Remnants of human remains in the car trunk maybe? It seems like a more thorough investigation was blocked by the defense somehow.
3 likes@Leah vapes86 some of the jurors have come out and said they wished they had pushed for that.
2 likes@Bruce Hidden the jury doesn't pursue charges lol they are not involved until after charges have been brought. They decide if the evidence proves the defendant committed the crime.
1 like@Kanticia Oglesby they were smoking feminism
1 like@Charlie D I agree with much of what you said, however they didn't need to find her not guilty on ALL charges. Murder in the first? Yes, possibly prosecutorial overconfidence. The rest? The jury was bamboozled by a slick defence.
2 likes@MerkMD Your concept of the standard of proof is absurdly high. There is absolutely no one else who COULD have committed this murder, would have had the motivation to do so, or opportunity. There are STRONG indications on all three counts that it was Casey. Proof does not need to be more than overcoming the boundary of "reasonable doubt". Is there ACTUALLY any "reasonable doubt" that Casey murdered Caylee? Really?
2 likes@Ana Alves It is such a loss to the world that Caylee's amazing skills of duct taping her own mouth and nose then, after placing herself in a bag, hiding herself in a swamp are never to be realised to the world [grim sarcasm].
1 like@Tony Arcieri If Casey had been a hairy, big dude called Tony, would she have got away with this? No.
0 likes@Olavi Murto The judge presides, not prosecute. It's for the prosecution to choose the charge.
1 like@Lightning McNigga dude, this is coming out of hate;
2 likesyes I know she probably did it and she deserves to be in prison for the rest of her life, but you know why the Lady Justice is blindfolded? cuz she does not care about the optics or what seems to be the case, it is about the evidence, there is no leap of reasoning allowed. they could not pin it 100% on the mother and so she got out.
a mother being happy after her child goes "missing" is not a crime.
searching for a way to kill people does not mean you killed one or going to.
being an idiot or being disgusting is not a crime.
lying does not make you a killer.
yeah, each one of of these is disgusting, but even all together is not enough evidence to put someone in jail without a leap in the argument. the justice system does not work based on optics, hate, or love, it does work based on evidence, and people are innocent unless proven guilty. now some times, it just doesn't work as expected, but I don't see it in this case. the final verdict of the jury seems reasonable, the prosecution managed to show that the mother is an asshole and wasted a lot of time, but could not prove that she was guilty without a reasonable doubt.
the justice system is a binary system, not a statistical one. in fact, statistics is what makes stereotypes, and we don't want stereotypes in the justice system. it does not matter if all this evidence point in almost definitely the mother doing some shenanigans, what matters is that it is "almost definitely", not "definitely". read MarkMD's comment right here.
@Bruce Hidden That wasn't the choice of the jury. Try Prosecuting Attorney.
1 like@MerkMD Not enough evidence that she didn't either. The prosocution's fault for not trying to charge with child negligence or second degree murder. Easy to see the flaws in the judicial system.
1 likeUnfortunately, Baez used all these distracting stories to raise reasonable doubt to the jury. I found it reprehensible, but it was effective. The jury has to believe, according to evidence, beyond a reasonable doubt to convict. I disagree with them, but that's what happened.
2 likesbecause she is a white woman.. if this was a person of color or even a man they would not being getting off with this
2 likes@Locutus well not exactly its more complex and ofc evidence and other things also ensured her freedom but if this was a man doing something like this that could cause some bias , or if it was a person of color. im just saying that could’ve played a big role, shes a woman, a white woman.
0 likesThis was so unnecessary..if she didn't want to be a mom she could have put her up for adoption or had her parents raise her (they obviously loved Caylee). Casey is a disgusting excuse for a human being.
0 likesShe created entire characters and back stories. I didn't know it went that deep. She's a complete psycho.
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Shame she didn't apply herself to something worthwhile.With some college courses in creative writing she would have been a good writer and maybe even could have gotten published.Sadly she was to lazy
1 like@Harper Nicole she just wanted to party and spend time with her boyfriend.
2 likesHarper Mac Just because someone is a Liar doesn’t mean they would be a good writer or author.
2 likesShe got away??? What...
1 likeThis is disgusting. Lawyer was a Beast tho.
0 likesshe got away with murder...
0 likesHey Casey, if you’re watching this. Everyone knows you did it.
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@JadaSnacks she would smirk
136 likesShe's probably grinning at the fact that even though we all know she did it, she could lie herself put of it.
104 likesMy theory she convinced the kid to 'play a game' where she had her duct tape herself. A child doesn't know better. Was probably already in the bag, and mom zipped it up and walked away. This, in a messed up way allowed her conscience to be free of guilt. "I didn't do it". There's a few points where you can see she thinks she will be fine because deep down she feels that she didn't TECHNICALLY do it and withholds pieces that would make her look bad. Seems typical in children with a parent who is a lawyer or police. They know the system. They know from the beginning what not to say.
37 likesSo I think everyone DOES know, everyone except her because she deep down feels, she didn't do it. And technically she didn't. And that's good enough for people like her.
@Bingus McDrangus actually shut up. Watch the video, did you see the diary entry, 12 days after the child's death? That to me is evidence enough (although I'm no jury i think I'm reasonable enough).
34 likes@Bingus McDrangus anyone who watched this video entirely could reason easily. You seem to lost your reasoning and observing power, sad.
20 likesShed be like: very calmly Zenaida fernandez Gonzalez.
11 likes@Bingus McDrangus we get it, you were part of the jury. It’s ok, all of America knows you couldn’t pass your SAT’s.
12 likes666 likes so I'm not going to like this. but I do like this so I'm commenting
2 likes@Martin Stu I never said I should be in charge of the system. I just said that I think that casey admitting that she had made a decision in her life she did not regret, considering her child has stopped her from what she wanted to do, and this was 12 days after the missing report, is in my opinion, really hard evidence against her. It has nothing to do with the interrogation
3 likes@Icylapras24 Exactly. You're no Jury. And your thought process makes the idea of you ever being on a jury terrifying.
0 likesYou convict based on the evidence. None of her journal entries were evidence of any crime or an admission of any crime.
@Martin Stu I like how this video doesn’t even make any sense to comment this on, as it had no effect on her because of just how inhuman the murderer is. And no the system is a lot worse than what “people like him” say lmao
1 like@Marko Bighead ah. Lets use ur logic again
4 likesWe have evidence that the killer used this knife to kill Jane
We have evidence the only fingerprints on the knife, is Mr. Bean.
Mr. Bean was close to the victim and had many arguments with them
Can you convict him?
By ur logic apparently not, because despite all the evidence, you can’t “prove” Mr. Bean killed Jane, because we don’t have video evidence, or 100% proof that they killed.
If your logic was applied we probably would’ve caught like 2% of murderers up until video evidence was allowed LMFAOO
@Marko Bighead to make it more clear: as A jury you’re expected to
3 likesA. Look at and interpret the evidence
B. From your perspective, interpret what happened and if it’s conclusive
C. Talk with and discuss with other members of the jury
What youre asking for is a bunch of computer simulations with the probability the crime was committed based on the evidence provided
@Bingus McDrangus imagine simping for casey anthony
2 likes@Hilary Tsai oh my gosh guys this commenter put a passive aggressive smiley face at the end of their aggressive comment they're so so cool and smart
0 likes@urdadshog You're profile pic is similarly so :)
0 likes@Hilary Tsai *your - and nice one, you think my profile pic is 'cool and smart'?? damn Hilary, is that the best you could think of
0 likes@Bingus McDrangus I never said I thought i would be a good judge or jury or lawyer. I don't get why everyone thinks I did. I said that I wasn't a jury because you would think they have a good understanding of what is strong evidence.
1 likeEven though she did not go to jail, she will be punished as she will be rejected by everyone and will never find a job or be accepted. Everyone knows who she really is
0 likes@Brian Hale Xanax medication comes in one form known as Xani Bars. Xani the Nanny is code for drugging someone, in this case her child, and while shes passed out Casey would go party. I believe this final time, as she had a pattern of doping her kid when she would go out, she OD'd her THEN duct taped the face in case it wasnt strong enough and the child would survive. Would explain the "foolproof" portion AS WELL as to why she kept the body in the car a couple days. And yes, moms do dope their kids , my first ever gf's mother also did this her as kid for example. That woman is also a monster.
1 like@Khedran Jesus, now i have to watch this again to see if I pick up on any of that. Thank you for tagging me that was interesting
0 likes@Brian Hale Stephanie Harlowe, link in description, does an in depth study of this case.
0 likesWow! Not guilty of all charges even if you are a child's KILLER! Casey's attorney lies about her maybe she did something for him to help her out of her messed! Yeah! Some woman or anyone can do anything for money, sex, and to get away with crime! What she wants him to say about her so he did! There was enough evidents that really points her out! Why didn't they put the child on autopsy! There was smelly decomposed body in the vehicle, ducted tape around her mouth and buried in a baby's 👶 blanket! Who could do that to a child? Where was the investigators? Did anyone investigated 🔎 the crime? Where is she now? Still party every night 🌙 while no one's to worry about? Kaylee was the prettiest girl and she didn't have to died in the hands of a monster!👹 NO JUSTICE FOR KAYLEE! Casey don't deserve to be called MOTHER! SHE'S LIES ABOUT EVERY SINGLE WORD OUT OF HER MOUTH 👄 TO OVER POWER THE AUTHORITIES! It's just like, you can lie about, you killed your child and walk free upon the earth 🌎 like nothing happened! So lying about everything you did wrong can put you on a good spot!🤑😈
0 likesi hope everyone in that jury is ashamed of themselves and regrets this every single day
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Same. I hope they’re haunted for the rest of their lives.
180 likesWhy?
11 likesAs fucked up as it is, they did their job. It hard to cope with, sure. But Prosecution couldn't prove that she was murdered (At least it wasn't enough for that jury)
191 likesSome good things that came out of this though:
She was convicted of 4 counts of lying to law enforcement, and one count of check forgery.
$217,000 payment (For lying to cops and the search for Caylee)
Caylee's Law.
So yes, she may be free now but we ended up with a case law to make sure something like this never happens again.
the jury can only use what was given them to consider in court, not on Nancy Grace.
55 likes@Sunny LMAOO
7 likesone of them recently spoke out and said they regret not trying harder to pursue a lesser accusation (neglect, child endangerment, etc.) to get something to stick. hopefully others feel the same and will speak out to prevent something like this from happening again
78 likesUltimately I think what the dude said at the end was right.
6 likesSame. Seriously sad. This poor child was completely failed by all of em 💔 now this monster is just living her life free on the street. Smh
28 likes@Voil Velev while I agree she was obviously guilty, her lawyers are only doing their jobs and they did a good job of it.
13 likes@KuuYami the circumstantial evidence was than enough for a conviction. the probability of all the evidence being a coincidence was basically 0.
7 likesHow can they not know how she was murdered. You don't put duct tape over anyone's nose and mouth that are already dead.
13 likes@KuuYami What's the reasonable doubt in this case? She built a web of lie to cover what happened to Caley, the babysitter doesn't exist, her attorney told the jury Caley drown in the pool... Then convict her of misshandling a dead body (or whatever it's called). It is beyond me how she could simply walked out free.
14 likes@pronoe I'm not a lawyer, but the fact there was no coroner that gave an actual cause of death is an issue. I know which way I would have voted if I were in the jury. But I think if the prosecution pursued lesser charges she would have been convicted (Like negligent manslaughter, I forget what degree it is).
9 likes@Possibly, Gluttony bro dont you agree with me?
0 likesNow you are blaming the Jury for calling out the mistakes/lack of proof/ from the prosecution?! Dude, its not their fault. They did their job, and they did it good this time.
6 likes@GijsInc she was sleeping with the lawyer. That is an issue
3 likes@white240490 "She was obviously guilty". Imma stop you right there, chief, thats really all you need to say. Thats it. Nothing else.
2 likesAnd their jobs are still dirty and they have no basic human shame and concience.
@Tiffany Jackson yes if true, but prove it
0 likes@Voil Velev this is an asinine and frankly a fascist take. The defense's job is to represent the defendant. They are an integral part of living in a free and just society. Without them you would be defenseless in the face of the entire court system.
6 likesThis means that you can't ever blame lawyers for what crimes their defendants. It's their job to get the lowest possible sentence for the defendant, guilty or not, no matter what. That's a good thing, even if in this case Casey got away with her crimes because of it. It's THAT important! I think if you'd meet most defense lawyers (not all) you'd find they're very ethically minded people. That's why they do the job (besides the pay, but don't forget public defense lawyers!)
@Voil Velev even guilty people deserve criminal defense, as messed up as this is, it's not the attorneys fault or responsibility to hand out justice.
4 likesThere was no proof they did there job.
3 likesWhat can we expect from Florweirda? This state is effed up on so many levels.
2 likesThey were manipulated
0 likes@GijsInc Thank you for saying what we defense attorneys have to say every-time someone gets acquired…🙄🙏
0 likesit is not their fault, the police didn't bring a good evidance.
2 likesthey were doing their jobs, you do not sentence someone based on emotions.
@Lourdes McKay why do you think she walked free ? it's because of past experience, many innocent people went to prison because they were sentenced based on emotions.
2 likes@Sunny but i mean there is SO much evidence to prove that this woman did do it you don’t have to look that far into it to see
1 like@Voil Velev whoa whoa whoa... it is the law that all people accused of a crime have a right to legal representation unless they choose to waive that right, and defense attorneys exist solely to fulfill that legal right. Everyone has a right to a trial, and in that trial, both parties have the right to make their arguments, and lawyers make those arguments for their clients because they understand the law in ways a layperson never could. If that system were not in place, criminal justice would entirely be a caste system. The jury are the ones who decided the case, not the lawyers, who were doing their appointed responsibility, for which refusing to do so would see them barred from the profession, which is merely interpretating the law for their client.
2 likesIt's just anoter proof that american justice system is great joke
1 like1:24
0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
Lacey I still to this day don't understand how she got off🙄🙄 OUR GREAT JUSTICE SYSTEM AT ITS WORST
0 likesYou have to ne proven guilty beyond any doubt. There was not enough evidence. Her actions point to her having done this 100%. But there was still no hard evidence.
2 likes@KuuYami oh yeah. Great. That makes up for everything.
0 likes@Lourdes McKay its OJ Simpson all over again, shes going to subtly admit to doing it once the statue of limitations elapses, pin this comment once that happens and its just going to be a big bummer for humanity
0 likes@KuuYami It's so conflicting honestly because the entire case was just handled terribly. But personally, I ask where was that jury's common sense? No one is going to put duct tape over someone who's already dead's airways. Sure, you can disassociate after an incredibly traumatic event and do some crazy things but any good mother on the planet's first instinct would have been to dial 9-1-1 and perform CPR, even if the child was beyond the point of return.
3 likes@Marina If I remember correctly, there was disagreement about whether the duct tape was found over the child's mouth, or whether it was on the bag the child was found in. I'm not quite sure how they couldn't figure this out, because the police took photos of the crime scene. We can see those photos, but because they're photos of a minor (Caylee), the photo is blurred, so it's impossible to tell where the duct tape is. But the jury would have seen the photo without the blurring.
0 likes@Lourdes McKay If the state can't prove beyond reasonable doubt that it was her, the jury can't just go with a guilty verdict. The prosecution didn't make a good enough case. But yeah everything involved probably has nightmares. Except for Casey.
1 likePeople keep saying the "without reasonable doubt" but neglect to give a possible way this couldve been a coincidence. The pool thing is wayyyy to far fetched and faulty to believe, and if you actually think that its possible I'm concerned
1 like@Biosquid239 I believe that she's guilty. I think she's a piece of shit. But without enough hard evidence to prove it, you can't convict someone. The justice system isn't perfect here, and it's these few cases that go the wrong way, it's not that often.
0 likes@white240490 pretty sure u would have a different attitude if it was someone u loved that was killed
0 likes@extremely subpar Finding the right charge is the prosecutors job.
0 likesCasey is innocent. There's no physical evidence that she did something with Kaylee, she's just a congenital liar. Leave this poor woman alone she lost her child.
0 likesit was obviously a murder case .. first of all why did the mother not reported her child missing .. even when you watch the first minutes where the grandmother called the police , casey's response when her mother told her the 911 wanted to talk to her was like she does not want to be cooperative ..
0 likesas the evidence also had that the child was seen with a ducktape on his mouth and nose a sign that she was murdered .. most evidence also is the diary where she said she never regret the decision she made ..
i feel disgusted how the lawyer defended casey although at the very start casey was lying the whole time in the police station about saying locations , jobs and even making up names and people that never exist ..
i hope the people who helped casey will find theirselves being haunted by the poor little girl ..
It's a shame how the case ended, but blaming the impartial jury is a very wrong and stupid take.
0 likes@Voil Velev but im not in defense of this lawyer but you guys need to understand this is their jobs this case probably boosted his carrer reputation to a all time high and brought him alot of new customers not all jobs are honourable jobs Cia Fbi and Dea agents dose things 10 times worse then this but we still close our mouths because it’s supposedly their jobs just to make things clear i do dont agree with that lawyer i do not condone his actions although im not pointing Any fingers at him
0 likesthe text on the screen is satisfying for some reason
0 likesI flew in a plane for 3 full days over different locations in Orlando searching for the body of Caylee. We utilized the airplane we used for work to see if we could see anything in and around the woods near the Anthony's house and along the woods and banks of waterways in the area. When they found her not guilty, I lost my mind. I am commenting on here after stopping the video at the 8:00 mark. I can not watch this or listen to this any further because it makes me that upset. I am sure this video is very informative, well put together and will help many understand things that probably were too young during this time period...but thank you to the people that are able to make such a video and make sure people will always remember this monster.
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You’d be surprised how many people will stay at home and not help even if it happened in their own back yard.
26 likesThank you for doing that. I know it didn’t end up the way you or any of the searchers wanted, I just wanted to thank you.
That's crazy to hear. I hope something will happen to her
2 likesMindchime Official 100% agreed,
2 likesThank you, God bless you. You cared more about this baby than her own mother ever did.
5 likesAiman Pietrini she lives in South Florida with of all people the lead investigator in her case.
0 likesI’m originally from Miami and I wish I was back home there right now. Sickening.
May Allah bless you for trying to find her..brings faith back in to humanity
2 likesPatrick Hanson unfortunately you share the same first name: Patrick McKenna. He’s a private investigator now and she works with him and helps with his business.
0 likesCan’t make this stuff up. We live in a shitshow world.
@Evelio DLeon unreal, "truth is stranger than fiction", couldn't be more accurate.
1 likethis woman hasn't shed a tear for her daughter.. Her own best friend is crying for Casey's daughter.......
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And she responded with, "omg, calling you guys is a waste..." lol, tf
335 likes@billy 9 literally wtf 💀
53 likesWe can all thank 😊 the jury of the century
48 likesGreat job they did finding her not guilty
Fantastic
@billy 9 god when she said that... my heart SUNK. so disgusting
33 likes@The Executed Code and that's why American system sucks, jury who doesn't know anything about law will decide the fate
23 likesNot one
0 likesShe literally only shed a tear when it was about herself
25 likesJust
0 likesAfter seeing what had happened to Casey with evidences, my heart pained. The only thing I wanna add is that Justices is a lie & the so called Justices System is a big joke. Anyone with cash and good contacts can get away.
12 likesShe was genuinely happy when her parents were focused on her but as soon as they mentioned her daughter she shut down and was clearly angry I think she got so jealous that she literally killed her daughter and she literally called the cops to get attention I think this girl has
2 likesI cannot believe this woman is walking around free.
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She is?!
83 likesIts a bit disturbing Women that do this get released into society when they do stuff like this.
132 likesWHAT 🤭🤭🤭🤭
12 likesMore so still free in FLORIDA... she just got into a bar fight 4 days ago in West Palm Beach.
268 likesIn case anyone is wondering.
Blackstone’s formulation: it is better that 10 guilty people go free than one innocent person be charged.
125 likesIt ain’t a perfect system, but innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is the best we got.
@wolfdeerbra damn!
3 likes@sosolidbaleb it should never be guilty until proven innocent. you say it's wrong but if you ever get wrongfully sentenced, like people have and lost years of your life that you'll never get back, which has happened, Im sure your tune will change right quick. This case however is fucking bizarre.
135 likes@wolfdeerbra How did you find that out? Just curious.
2 likes@Amplified just googled her name
12 likesLol welcome to our world .
2 likesWell, do something about it to ensure the safety of your people... she isn’t safe to be on the streets. Take the matter into your own hands hahah
2 likes@enriktigasna I was about to say now I know where those dislikes came from LMAO.
2 likes@wolfdeerbra Yeah, I should of just done that myself. Sorry.
2 likes@Suh Dude ugh the system is so twisted in that way. Whether its being rich or being overlooked because of your gender or race, its just stupid that things like this even happen in society. I hate it deeply as a women that women like this are on the street. Any parent wouldnt want this mother around any of their kids.
4 likes@Jack Campbell lmao nah. If a woman miscarriages, they're a fucking murderer. Its really sick really, this is why im pro choice.
4 likes@wolfdeerbra wow, so she's still clubbing and bar hopping which is the main reason she killed the girl.
8 likes@Jack Campbell Women privilege, a man says. Funny.
5 likes@ThePersonBehindThisIs Asian miscarriage isn’t killing someone. it’s still someone dying tho. miscarriage can happen to anyone my mother had a miscarriage she didn’t choose to do anything. This lady obviously should’ve never had a kid.
20 likes@Jack Campbell the way u said ur first comment could be interpreted in so many different ways. And yeah, it is, force birth (or pro lifers) believe so and i heard Texas(or was it in another state/country, idk) made a law that it is infact murder and its the mother's fault. Fucking ridiculous.
2 likesAnd I say women privilege because if this is a man 0% chance the jury says he gets away with it. But again I understand the way y’all think I contest it because I’m an evil villain but really I’m just like you and you and you. Male values still exist.
12 likes@Jack Campbell your first comment was poorly phrased. There isn't much to do with 'privilege' in this case, since it's absurd all around. It sounded like a poorly disguised attempt at dissing women, but I'm guessing that wasn't the intention.
6 likesShe sugged many .
0 likesShe had the same attorney who got Arron Hernandez off his 2nd murder trial which he was obviously guilty about
1 likeNo shot?
0 likes@Suh Dude this isn’t shouldn’t be about gender, everyone should be held accountable. the patriarchy and justice system is fucked up
3 likesJose Baez think his name.
0 likes@ThePersonBehindThisIs Asian you've made me beyond sad today that you couldn't take five seconds to research before spewing your diarrhea out of your mouth. Its Georgia. And the law would only be ineffect if a woman is found to be directly RESPONSIBLE for causing her own miscarriage. That is in fact murder and dangerous to the individual who does it.
13 likes@Clyde Davis tell em clyde!!!!
3 likes@Tigris Panthera this isn't about gender but mentions the patriarchy in the very next sentence. bizarre.
4 likesHonestly I think there was some fuckery happening and somebody was on her side anyway they will be judged when they die and karma's a bitch
1 likeMy thought exactly.. no justice whatsoever..she got away for sure..
1 like@Glori Reacts why are you laughing
0 likes@Megan Axelía Carrington-Ráðvarðardóttir don't worry. She literally lives in dexter's back yard, so..
0 likesshe’s innocent af bro
1 likeYeah who googles suffocation around the time her baby was murdered?!
5 likes@Eric Cartman Haha
0 likessame
0 likes@wolfdeerbra no way fr? i grew up there
0 likes@Haydn Williams 🤣🤣
1 like@Haydn Williams a rusty butcher knife with DNA and fingerprint evidence is more innocent
3 likesikr, she literally got into a bar fight 4 days ago too like why isnt she in jail
1 like@sara _ yes, in fact she got in a bar fight in Florida 4 days ago
1 likeHopefully karma will get her nobody that lies this much and kills her daughter and get away with it will escape something bad happening to her her whole life look at oj it took awhile but he did some time at least later In life
4 likesQuite a compliment you give this garbage.. Woman? I don't see anything close to it! 🤔
1 likeSaid with a 😊
@JC82 cumbee well the prosecution didn’t exactly do a fantastic job with the evidence. Also the fact that there was no confirmed cause of death means that either situation posed, was only a possibility.
1 likeShe is free in the court of law but, she can’t even leave her home. The world knows she is guilty, and if she is seen; she will be hounded by the people.
4 likesTbh I'm surprised no one has taken her out themselves, vigilante style.
3 likes@wolfdeerbra crazy huh? Whole state knows what she looks like.
1 likeI am first baffled that she didn't bother changing her name, but moreso that she had the gall to remain in Florida. She has to know she will never have peace from being harassed. I guess chalk it up to more evidence of her Narcissism. I realize her court ordered profiles indicated nothing, but man the Narcissism just permeates from her.
1 like@Maltyfred Last Name she just needs to stop playing the victim card and own up to it. Maybe write a book like OJ.
0 likes@sam eilerman PFFT—
0 likesShe is not free, in the sense she is out, but she has hell to pay and she has either stayed in hiding or changed her face to accomplish that. It will all rain down on her in a severe way in one way or another. She is after all the most hated mother in America!
0 likes@Amplified Twas on the news
1 likeIt was all circumstantial evidence. The prosecution did their job, but there were no DNA prints.
1 like@Haydn Williams yeah totally, lets just not talk about the corpse smell and weird google searches about suffocating children
0 likesWe should find her
0 likes@sara _ uhh yeah you must not have been around much when this trial was happening. It was national news, especially when she was found not guilty.. the outrage was far and wide.
0 likesI still can’t believe she was found innocent of aggravated child abuse. At the minimum, she should have been charged and tried for neglect of a child. I was in high school during this case and found the jury’s decision of innocence pertaining to aggravated child abuse absolutely absurd. From both a legal and personal standpoint, I cannot see how the jury said she neither abused nor neglected Caylee. A decade later and I’m still interested in this one obvious miscarriage of our criminal justice system.
1 likeI can. She's a woman. What else is there to say?
0 likes@John That would make more sense if innocent people didn't get charged all the time, but they do.
0 likes@wolfdeerbra she got a drink poured on her head. Hardly a fight.
1 like@Suh Dude Equality am I right???
0 likes@The Alpacaa when we see millions of arrests, obviously there are going to be some errors. We should always strive to do better. However, this basic framework was the best humanity has ever come up with. Unfortunately we’ve piled laws on top of laws.
1 likeWe hear about the innocents wrongly convicted often. Which is good. We should. What that number really is would be impossible to say.
I think you meant convicted. Not the same as charged.
@John English isn't my first language, so I probably do mean convicted. But my point is that we seem to get the worst of both worlds. Lots of guilty people go free and at the same time lots of innocent people are convicted. But you're right, we don't know the numbers so I can't say which is more common.
1 likeAmerican justice system... very effective
0 likes@dacymark it's literally not though, that COULD be a factor but it also could literally just be fucking absurd and have nothing to do with her gender. so no, not point blank. just maybe lol it's not like this is a common thing
1 likeSpoiler alert….
0 likes@Suh Dude so this doesn't happen to men then? just women? 🤨 yeah that's bullshit.
1 like@ThePersonBehindThisIs Asian Miscarriage is not deemed murder. That's a lie. Abortion is, however.
0 likes@sosolidbaleb no what he said is true, if a guilty man walks free the justice system has failed but if a innocent man has been convicted then not only has the justice system failed but it has also wronged someone
1 like@sara _ yes she is she started her own private investigator office in florida
0 likes@Wolves1fan karma is a desperate construction of hope with no basis in reality.
0 likes@C B on the contrary death will likely hold no repercussions. Theres no logical reason to think it would.
0 likes@Vanz Who? And none of that has any tangible proof to it. Supposition, sure. Likelyhood yes. But that doesnt mean a damn thing when someone must be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt.
1 likeGood legal team.
0 likes@Antonio Balea no one wants to go to prison.
1 likeNo
0 likesI like many others believe she is 100% guilty and was a horrible mother but I also think the prosecution was terrible and lacked the experience to even try a case of this magnitude.
1 likeThey did very little as far as facts , timelines , and investigation. And relied solely on emotions and not facts .It was Too many questions and the lack of answers provided by prosecution that allowed her to walk.
@John Agree with Blackstone's formulation and I understand innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, so maybe we need a better system for choosing intelligent jurors, as this woman is as guilty as the day is long. O.J. ring a bell, or was that a bit of payback so we didn't harm those 'wittle' egos...
0 likes@Nicholas Limon couple points wrong there. You don’t need dna to prove a murder case. And despite what tv shows, you don’t even need a body. And you can use just circumstantial evidence if it’s strong. People misunderstand the definition of circumstantial evidence a lot, and strong circumstantial evidence, especially multiple of strong ones, can win a case. There is so much here that they should’ve won, but it looks like they aimed too high with their charges and argued their case poorly.
1 like@sara _ 1:06:45
0 likes@The Eye Is Watching I agree with your ratio
0 likes@John At least with the innocent person in jail no one else gets hurt, unlike releasing 10 psychos into the wild. Just saying.
0 likes...it REALLY is un-frickin-believable, isn't it?! Like???
1 likeYou would love brazilian law system where the victim and cops go to jail and murderers walk free.
0 likesWhat's really disturbing is how some guy could be oblivious to her situation and get romantically involved with her, have a child together and she could just repeat everything and potentially cover her tracks better this time around.
1 like@John No way dude, guilty until proven innocent is better. If it turns out they were innocent, compensate them. It sucks but it beats letting 10 lunatics run around.
0 likesWell she is
0 likes@sosolidbaleb I have news for you fam, “all your views are stupid” is not an argument.
1 like@John the most funny thing is that isnt the case.
0 likesProsecutors laugh at fools like you.
They are not about the victims or "justice" but a good sentence, thats what pays them better.
Theres plenty, pleeeeeeeenty of cases of people being wrongly accused just for the sake of a sentence. In this case she play the victim good enough to not being charged.
What a good example of simpery and delusion in a just system that doesnt exists.
The judicial system exists only to protect the powerful, the rich, and those who serve them.
You can thank the fine people of Florida..
0 likesI live in Florida, & nearly the Same exact thing happened to my only Son when he was just 3 years old, on new Years Eve 2017/2018, while he was left alone with his Mother, & Grandmother. He was found in a Canal, behind the Apartment Complex, where no Cameras or lights were located. It happened on the Loudest night of the year, just after the sun had gone down. When discovered by Coral springs Police Department, he had a Large Visible Red Mark on the back of his Neck, that was NEVER explained. His Mother lived on the Second Level, exterior wall, up against the canal, that surrounded the entire Structure on three sides, & the fourth was up against a road. At three years Old, my Son could NOT Negotiate the staircase on his own, in one Direction, OR the other, without me helping him, as is normal for any three year old, on a dangerous concreate staircase. It must have been almost twenty steps. So the spin that CSPD believed from Allison was, that while she was napping after a Big Day out, & that her infallible 62 year old Mother, whom had a serious AXE to grind with me, was supposed to be watching my Son, Jack. Whom they said, pushed a footlocker that weighed twice as much as him, across the carpeted Living room floor, of their 800 Square foot apartment, to the front door. Then unlocked the Dead bolt the was near the top of the Door frame (I have Photos) then opened the door, that normally flew open, & was on a chain to keep from ripping free, due to the wind coming off of the Canal, & let himself outside. Then closed the door behind his three year old little self. While no one heard, or saw anything. Allegedly Allison had woken up, & couldn't find Jack in the tiny little apartment (ROLLING EYES). So she then asked her all knowing, wise, Oracle of Delphi Mother, Debora. Where is Jack? to which she (lied) had no answer. It was 6:38, December 31, 2017. My phone Rang, & it said Allison. she has been ignoring my Calls to come see, & pick up my child for 90 days at least by this point. I answered the Phone, & the Verbatim that came out of my mouth is as Follows " Allison, you had better tell me my child is Fucking Alive, & Breathing" all I heard was indiscernible screaming. I repeated myself. I then heard her state in plain English (Please tell my Husband what happened to his child) I proceeded to loose my shit. The CSPD had alerted Hollywood PD to my location, & they shortly their after surrounded my house. The CSPD Closed the case inside of 16 Hours. They NEVER filed any charges against the both of them, & took pity on them both because of their blubbering. Additionally they both were MORE than easy on the eyes. I was Spitting Venom, to the CSPD, on on every Social media Site I was a part of. The Lead SVU Det. from CSPD called me, & said " so I hear you're going around online, telling everyone that Allison is a baby killer?" to which my response was "where did you read that?" She then said 'I personally haven't read anything, this is just what I'm told" We had a VERY colorful conversation, that I will not bore you with the Details of because I think at this point you are starting to see a Manifest Observable Trend of Behavior. The LEAD SVU DET. called me no less than FIVE more time, Both attempting to Threaten, & broker with me. I don't think she was expecting, or was ready for what she heard next.
0 likesAllison then Motioned for a Restraining order to which Michael G. Kaplan, of the 17th Circuit Vigorously issued, with glee I might add. Additionally the Hearing was Dually used to make public statements to Banish any Notion put Forward By Myself, about the lack of effort on the part of the CSPD to bring charges against the mother of my only Son, & to fortify the concept of the mental health of Allison's Mother, whom DID have a history of Mental health issues, & suicidal ideations. (It was a Ludacris cross between a dog, & pony show, & the dismemberment of William the Wallace) Then they went on to suggest that at just Three years old, too young to make such a determinization, as stated by the DSM, that he was somehow limited, & that's how he houdinied himself into the position he was "FOUND" in. The 17th Circuit treated me like a criminal. They then Gave Allison her two year restraining order, took my Firearms, to which I resisted greatly for a years time, Until they Jailed me, with no hope of release, until I willingly surrendered my Property in a Most Perverse of Circumstances. I couldn't help but observe that they took large sadistic measure of Pleasure out of that, & relished in it, Disarming a Disabled Veteran, who's son just Died in an EXTREAMLY suspicious fashion, while NOT charging the Party RESPONSIBLE for his Well being at the time of his Death. I mean, could you find a MORE Luciferin practice?
By the Time our Divorce paperwork had gone though, NOT a YEAR later, she was Living on the other side of the Continent, already 9 Months Pregnant, with someone else's child, who was still active duty. Her second string choice that she knew from NAVY "A" school, that she never took seriously, while we both were Enlisted (Another Story). "JAMES" was trying to "Romance the stone" the entire time we were trying to repair our Marriage, whom her mother was endlessly trying to Broker, & interject herself in. (Narcissistic Mother Disorder).
Ladies, & Gentlemen of the Jury, I hear put forth the Obvious Notion that my Only Son was Murdered to eliminate a Liability, & to sever ties with a Husband whom did not meet the Approval of the Mother In Law. I will let you Draw the conclusion of whom most likely did the unthinkable.
I humbly await your Deliberation.
@sosolidbaleb you think innocent people should get thrown in prison wrongfully? Awesome! What law school did you go to
0 likes@ThePersonBehindThisIs Asian you sound extremely uneducated on the subject. A miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion. That means that the fetus died due to a complication both medical or traumatic. This has no political bearing at all, regardless of what side you’re on (pro-choice/life).
0 likesOnly could happen in FLORDIA where all the PHYSO'S come from!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 likeThe justice system failed that innocent child. Disgusting. The system has one job and can’t do it right. Embarrassing.
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Shes writing a book and movie.... We gotta do something
17 likesI'ts just people. Not machines. Go spill your humanly hatred on something else please.
15 likes@Dome Yes thank you
0 likesWhat are your proposed modifications then?
0 likesWeird
0 likes@Dome what does this event mean? He never mentioned anything about machines or people? Are you saying it wasn’t the justice system that failed her when that’s literally what happened in the video?
6 likes@Noah Adams Why does he need to propose solutions for bringing up a clear problem? Unless your statement is alluding to the fact that you think the justice system ISNT flawed…..
3 likes@emarythomp it means that humans make mistakes. I don’t know if you watched the damn thing, but at the end that lawyer really pulled the heart strings of those judges, including my own. Even tho I knew she was guilty that lawyer made me feel more sympathy for her. Don’t make the mistake of thinking humans are not flawed.
7 likes@Dome No shit humans make mistakes. How does that disprove anything the original commenter said? Again did the justice system not fail that little girl? The jury is an extension of the justice system is it not?
6 likes @emarythomp Hmm, you are a tricky one. The justice system are humans. If you still don't get it, its no hope for you. Bye.
0 likesThe system's job is to keep us down. To ensure that we remain at the bottom of the pyramidal power structure of Earth.
1 like@Dome You are exactly the kind of juror the defense wanted. I'll bet you voted for Biden too.
7 likes@Agentixc Of course humans are flawed and the justice system is not a perfect machine. Who are you trying to argue? I just pointed out that the justice system failed. It’s not “spilling humanly hatred”, whatever that means. The justice system has failed numerous amounts of times, enough times that I believe it is valid to call it out when it fails. Also it’s a comment section where people can comment whatever they want. Your heartstrings got pulled? So did mine, but for different reasons. My heart aches for that child and every other person who was not served the justice they deserved. I’ll comment what I want to comment. If it bothers you ignore it, just like how I will be ignoring any other comment you write after this.
2 likesThe prosecution failed the child. You have to prove beyond A reasonable doubt the charges that you are filing. They failed. The jury knew she killed her daughter. The judge knew she killed her daughter. I know she killed her daughter. But I wouldn't have voted guilty. The evidence was circumstantial, there were too many holes, and again this isn't because people think she's innocent. The jury did not think she was innocent. That's not what they're voting. It's not guilty or innocent. It's guilty or not guilty. And the fact was they didn't know. They know she did something but they failed to prove first degree murder.
1 like#BelieveHer #MeToo #AlwaysBelieveWomen #BlameThePatriarchy #GiveMeYourMoney
1 like@MOMO all scams
0 likes@Leon Strangler #LenaDunham
0 likes@Thicker Constrictor thank you for providing one clear voice of reason in these comments. I just posted a parent comment questioning all of these people saying that the justice system failed, before I saw your comment.
0 likesThe justice system has way more than one job.
0 likesJustice system fails more often than you realize. There are hundreds of innocent people serving time for crimes not committed and hundreds of criminals walking free.
0 likes@MOMO lol hahahah
0 likesThey went too far. They should have instructed the jury to find for 2nd degree.
0 likesShe’s the perfect person to describe: “You never know the psychopath sitting next to you, you never know the murder sitting next to you.”
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Mmm twenty one pilots
53 likes@Joey johnson that’s fair 😂😂
9 likesPretty sure if there was a murder happening next to me, I would fucking know it.
5 likes@Galaxy Eyes 777 i think the lyric was meant to be murderer? idk haven’t heard the song in a while
11 likes@Galaxy Eyes 777 well if they have aspd you wouldn't because they blend in perfectly with the rest of ud
1 likeIt's more of a "you definitely know the person next to you murdered her daughter and is pretty bad at lying about it but no one else seems to pick up on even the obvious clues"
2 likesShe's scary af. Imagine meeting this kind of person and hanging out with them. Who knows what else she might've done and got away with it. Frightening.
0 likes@Joey johnson if successful they often find positions of perceived power in society. Police, lawyers, politicians especially, some religious leaders especially, and a few CEOs come to mind. Like Zuckerberg, Bezos, etc. They will do anything if it advances their position no matter who they trample. The sad thing is that our society promotes this behavior.
2 likes@Elijah Idk man, there's a lot more scenarios for murder than just antisocial personalities... Who knows, I'm literally the devil lol.
0 likesThat’s quite the literal interpretation of a pretty metaphorical line.
0 likesi fucking hate our justice system
0 likescasey: searches shot girl, suffocation, lies about almost everything, hides the fact her child is missing for 31 days
1270 likesjury: not guilty
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America 👏
51 likesIt's Florida, bro.
77 likesGuess what you need actual proof to sentence someone to death
22 likesShe was charged for lying to police but that proves nothing about her guilt.
Reasonable doubt? Check.
@Bianca Nsn basically everywhere. That's what attorney do
2 likes@aman she didn't report her missing child, her car smelled like death and she made up false narratives and non-existing people. Anybody with a sane mind would say she's guilty and in any other country she would have been convicted of first-degree murder.
117 likesThat indeed is very suspicious, but is it enough to send someone to death row, I'm not so sure. To me it looks like the prosecution did a shitty job providing real evidence like camera footages, witnesses, fingerprints, dna etc., perhaps because they were too confident that a mom not reporting her child missing is enough proof. Perhaps she actually wanted her dead, but didn't act on it. And then she was killed by someone else & the mother was just happy about it. This of course is a long shot, but not impossible. It was prosecution's job to show there are no other possibilities but the mother killed her. They failed to do so.
28 likesHard to belive to she gets a not guilty and now is free.
6 likes@aman reasonable doubt? No. That's very UNREASONABLE doubt! Looks t all the evidence that's pointing to her. Any doubt would be completely unreasonable.
16 likes@aman i agree. the attorney was good, but could have been better. We still dont technically know how the baby died. we cant just say she did it because it seems like she did. there are hundreds of ways she could have died. there is absolute reasonable doubt. sucks, but true.
6 likesFemale tears and a shady lawyer can do a lot to create doubt
9 likes@Saad khan You mean people of color like O.J. Simpson?
2 likes@Matthew Anthony OJ was a superstar, celebrity who had top of the line lawyers and the world cheering on as he was a god in sports. Not like Casey here. The comparison doesn't work. I'm saying if it was a normal, non-white male in this exact situation, they would've been in jail in a second.
9 likes@Saad khan No. That is just what Liberals like to say so that minorities keep voting Democrat. By the way, it works. They have been voting non-stop for the same party since 1932.
3 likes@Matthew Anthony aight bet.
2 likes@Saad khan I do not watch BET or television in general.
0 likes@Saad khan turn to Christ and repent before it’s too late because He loves us so much He died for us and God His Father raised Him from the dead and loves us 🥰
3 likes@Denizhan Karaca turn to Christ and repent before it’s too late because He loves us so much He died for us and God His Father raised Him from the dead and loves us 🥰
2 likes@Saad khan turn to Christ and repent before it’s too late because He loves us so much He died for us and God His Father raised Him from the dead and loves us 🥰
2 likes@aman turn to Christ and repent before it’s too late because He loves us so much He died for us and God His Father raised Him from the dead and loves us 🥰
2 likes@olivia grace hey bro chill, online comments arent gonna convert anyone.
11 likesNot relevent but that attorny is good
0 likesHad she been a man, she/he would have been convicted.
1 likeShe got off because it took them so long to find the body that by the time they got it, you couldn’t tell how she died. That’s reasonable doubt in and of itself. Heartbreaking that the body was just a mile away and it took them that long to find it. Circumstantial cases are really hard to prove, especially if the defendant has a sociopath for a defense attorney.
2 likes@Wild Bill Slunksauce . That is UNreasonable doubt. And if a man had been on trial, the jury would have convicted him. Time and time again, the jury finds «doubt» when a woman is on trial, where a man would be convicted even if they found no corpse at all.
2 likes@Saad khan yea yea everyone is racist.. 2+2=5
0 likesIn her defense, a shot girl is a girl who works at a bar, giving shots of alcohol. She was most likely researching a new party job.
5 likesThe suffocation search was enough though.
Pretty, manipulative white girl, good attorney who she was sleeping with, etc etc. Nobody ever called her out on her bullcrap.
2 likesEasy to raise enough doubt.
I really feel for those grandparents.
America 🙃
1 like@Joseph Dale suffocation was not enough. Maybe she found her child suffocated and that's the reason she searched.
1 likeFoolproof suffocation, on the other hand, was clear as hell ^_^
@Eva Lavinia Bucur I agree. I’m saying “shot girl” had no relevance other than her desire to party.
1 like@Saad khan on one of those 9-11 calls videos some black woman shot and killed all 4 of her kids and she got 7 years probation and just had to show up for time out from 4pm-8pm
0 likes@VDH yes it’s female privilege all the way.
1 like@aman Well you're smart ...
0 likes@NH Your not to smart are you?
0 likes@Rebecca Serti I feel terrible for whatever country you live in the. If you are going to sentence a human being to DEATH you better be able to prove without a reasonable doubt they committed the crime not "this is suspicious" remember sending them to DEATH I certainly wouldn't want to live in a place were people are sentenced to death on suspicion without concrete proof.
0 likesThey need putting down.
0 likesHer lawyer must have been convincing. But they are just stupid.
That's jury's for you, once listened to a life long criminal and his comments regarding jury's, he said they could never be trusted and that they let him go free when he really should have got time many times, other times when he didn't do the crime and the case was weak he got some time, totally unpredictable was his view of them in a lifetime of contact with them and a lifetime of knowing others that had plenty of contact with them!
0 likes@Denizhan Karaca But not even manslaughter, or child endangerment!
0 likesNothing!
32:07 - who tf would hate call the grandparents? i mean come on people.
0 likes'She DROWNED!'
691 likesWhy was there tape on her head?
'Casey was molested!'
Man those jurors completely ignored facts and listened to nonsense.
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and why would her parents be the ones to bring the attention to the police!?! if they were guilty and they all were just covering this up, why would they bring it to the police when no one was even aware she was missing????
37 likesI would put any amount of money of the average IQ of those Jurors to be under 85.
44 likesI'd like to know why her trunk smelled of a dead body as her father who was a cop suggested. Did the jury know about that? This chick is a born sociopath and deceiver. She was all things to all people as a means to fulfill whatever objective was in front of her at the time. As for the jury, the lawyer's skill convinced those idiots. It's still totally incomprehensible to me that they rendered that verdict.
15 likesHow come the search history for foolproof sufication wasn't talked about in court... If I saw that search history and they could prove she was the one that did the search then this is no brainer. That plus the good life tattoe. So many things the prosecution screwed up on
2 likes@Chris Kuhn her mom said she might have searched it, or something equally dumb I think.
1 likeFlorida is notoriously loaded with satanic cults that ritually kill children...this might have been something like this and that's why it was covered up so well
1 like@joeyparms26 are we in the 80s? Or is the santanic panic nostalgic now?
3 likes@Racer X this was probably a satanic sacrifice. This is why it was covered up so well. These people have their tentacles everywhere
3 likes@L Franco kinda like the blm riots going on today
0 likesJurors can't just come up and say THESE TRAUMAS CAN'T LEAD HER TO TAPE BABY'S HEAD, they won't be listened by court until some "professional psychiatrists" come up and confirm that they won't, and i don't think there is an procedure like consulting to psychiatrists if this is possible, even if it existed, she would come up and say "I went paranoid i don't know" and they will have to accept it because there is still no directforward evidence.
1 like@alpocalyptic But there is circumstantial. And in the criminal justice system that is just as good. Her behavior was just awful and raises too many questions.
1 like@Lancet Fencing raycisms is everywhere derrp
0 likes@dietdrpepper15 I mean, she even made up an sexual harrasment story and got away with that for a while, it sucks
1 like@joeyparms26 Occam's razor be damned when we have satanic panic.
0 likes@alpocalyptic
1 likeI don't think she made that part up. When she talked to her dad and he said he wanted to give her a Papa Joe hug...maybe That's why he covered for her. Her dads sitting right there in the courtroom, he had no outraged expressions... Who knows.
@dietdrpepper15 do you think the satanists just went away??? They were dug in DEEP into the churches, law enforcement, millitary and Hollywood. Did you just think it was a fad that just became unpopular? Let me assure you that satanists take their practices and agenda VERY seriously. So seriously that their agendas span millennia not just the length of your attention span.
1 like@joeyparms26 There's never been any actual evidence of satanic cults killing people, it's all Christian hysteria.
1 like@joeyparms26 Oh gods no...already regretted that I replied to your comment :p
2 likes@ohla300 It's Florida...it is what it is.
0 likesThe legal system sucks as do all systems
0 likesNOT GUILTY?!!!!!!!
0 likes- searched "foolproof suffocation"
1352 likes- last person to see caylee alive
- body with duct tape found nearby
- wild goose chase and lies from Casey prior to arrest
- oh, let's not forget she displays classic SOCIOPATH traits
HOW IS CASEY WALKING FREE? HOW THE HELL DOES DROWNING ADD UP? Sick to my stomach.
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She'll face judgment one day. Just not on this earth.
111 likes@Trey Brannon I believe that too
11 likes@Trey Brannon Keep telling that to yourself. I guess it makes it easier to sleep while we do nothing to change it. Meanwhile the evils on earth remain unscathed and millions more will suffer of such horrible fates.
133 likesAnd even the obvious that she said she dropped her off with the babysitter and she couldn’t even say where it was that she dropped her off
14 likesClassic sociopath traits means nothing tho. You can be sociopath but still innocent. The browser history also not a strong enough evidence since it could be someone else using her account. Unfortunately, there is no strong evidence to declare her guilty
5 likes@Raf Raf well... in this context, sociopathy is relevant
7 likesdon’t forget the initial 911 call where grandma is hysterically distraught and Casey could not care less about the situation if she tried
18 likesIt is infuriating that she is walking around free, but I blame the prosecution. How would they not have seen such a predictable defense coming? They should have been ready for it.
11 likesIt is not very likely, but it brings up just enough doubt:
- Search was done day before, so obviously that would be very hard to explain, except as a coincidence with a bizarre curiosity. Big part of why I think that she is guilty.
- Last person to see Caylee alive: Yes, but she would be if Caylee had drowned too and she tried to hide it and panicked.
- Body with duct tape: In case Caylee was found, she had made it look like a kidnapping to probably fit with the story she made up similar to the one she gave the police. She added the extra month when she didn't call it in and ToD doesn't fit. With the "accident" story, it does fit.
- Lies and wild goose chase: She was scared to be discovered that she had let her daughter drown, so she tried to hide it. Would fit in nicely with the defense of the "accident" as well as the murder.
- Sociopathic traits: I have some as well. Nothing like this though, but enough to not be sad at funerals. Also having to put on a fake smile most of the time, no matter what. I hide behind that smile like it is armor, sort of like she does with her mood. My point is not that she is not a cold blooded killer, but that this particular thing is not in itself clear evidence of any intent without an evaluation. In fact, this could equally be used as a defense to show why she reacted as strange as she did with an accident.
My point with this is to show why a jury might arrive at the conclusion that everything is screaming that she did it, but there is still that nagging possibility that there are two stories here and that the other story could mostly line up.
I won't claim to know the law and courts well enough to know for sure, but I think the prosecution went all-in on the 1st degree murder and they were so sure that they had it in the bag that they didn't consider anything else or even did their best. If they had, then they would have seen this very obvious "accident" claim coming as well as preparing to pursue other avenues.
It is my opinion that she is guilty, but I would have to be at the trial and be presented with the evidence as well as witness statements in order to make a definitive decision.
@Trey Brannon hold on if she takes Jesus as her personal saviour, she will spend eternity in Heaven. Praise the Lord ... Bless the Lamb who taketh away the sins of the world.
2 likesDon't forget that Caylee's death was determined to be a homicide but they just couldn't determine the cause of death from the remains.
4 likes@Trey Brannon Not good enough, sorry.
1 like@Mikeyy Well, that's all we have. Unless you're gonna go vigilante.
1 like@Trey Brannon you don't know that, so stop lying to people.
1 like@Mikeyy I don't know, what? I'm lying to no one.
1 like@Trey Brannon You know damn well that nobody knows if any afterlife exists, yet you say "that's all we have is the afterlife". That's called lying when you say something you know is false
2 likes@Mikeyy If no one knows if it's true or not, it's not false, then, is it? And you presume to know what I do or do not. Be silent.
1 like@Trey Brannon You said "all we have is the afterlife". What's cool about text is we can read it
2 likes@TankInATree uh I couldn't buy the duct tape part somehow 😂 so much of hard work for hiding her pain and fear from all? Not digestible at all srsly
1 like@TankInATree I understand that it's not enough to prove her guilty, but anyways, someone who doesn't report to anyone a dead body and actually keeps it and drives with it in her own car it's insanely enough to be someone to watch out for.
1 likeJury : not guilty ..due to lack of evidence
0 likesfingerprints on duct tape? I cannot believe this..
2 likesI think the worst part isn't that there was so much evidence pointing towards her involvement in her baby's death, but that all none of her testemonies were corroborated and the jury still took her word.
5 likesJeffrey's the biggest example for this, when he said he hadn't been working at universal for 6 years, wasn't friends with Casey, never lived in North carolina or jacksonville, didn't know any Zenaida Gonzalez and didn't even have any kids Casey's credibility should have been shattered and neither the jury nor the judge should be buying into anything else she says.
I mean, if she'll lie that much about how she met the nanny just imagine what else she'll lie about. Whoever gave this sentence was inexplicably incompetent
@Nemausos Hey this might sound crazy to you, but you know people can believe that, AND do something about it, at the same time? Crazy right? What makes you think if a person believes in something hinders them from doing something, at all? Imagine all those judges who believe in that and still put down murderers. You commenting this on your azz is more bs
0 likesIt absolutely baffles me. There was so much evidence. Why would she wait so long to contact police? She never showed that she cared about Caylee. They knew SHE LIED about several things. How the hell does any of this add up. So infuriating.
1 likeI do see what you are saying for sure, but they would somehow still need to prove it
0 likesProbably because the searches weren't found until after the trial.
0 likesThe jury failed Cayley
2 likes@Madilynn Mencer no, the state did. The prosecution slept walked through the whole case thinking it was a slam-dunk that they didnt try.
2 likes@Mikeyy if there is no afterlife then the ppl who say there is afterlife, have nothing to lose cuz there will be nothing. But if there IS afterlife, then the ppl who don't believe in it will be at disadvantage. So according to your belief, Trey would hv nothing to lose if he lies. Simple as that
0 likes@Hhq Oh, you mean Pascals Wager? That's been debunked for years buddy. Pick up a book
0 likesLived in Florida when this happened. Watched this all unfold. 15 years later and hearing her lies still gives me the same gut churning reactions. Just a disgusting human being. I cannot believe she wasn’t found guilty. Hope her life is absolutely miserable.
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I saw a comment here that the person said she became a Christian.
0 likesSo she claimed her daughter drowned in the pool... but when they found her, she had ducktape over her mouth. The jury just ignored all the facts. People don't just do things without any reason. Who would tape their dead childs mouth? I'm so happy there's nothing like a jury in where I'm from
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Where are you from ? I'm curious to know which western countries don't have this system (I assume you are from one).
7 likesThen again, I discovered it doesn't really exist in France. I guess I have been intoxicated by US culture.
@Nemausos I'm from germany
8 likes@Wolfii Tachii Ich habe 2 Jahre in Deutschland gelebt und wusste das nicht. Man lernt jeden Tag etwas Neues))
3 likes@Wolfii Tachii you don’t have a jury in Germany? Who impartially decides? That’s the point in a jury
5 likes@Hi im Fieldy The judge
22 likes@Hi im Fieldy same in my country, a jury doesn’t exist
7 likes@Hi im Fieldy Also in the Netherlands we do not have a jury, the judge decides. That's his job. I always find it baffling that the fate of a person is decided by random people.
18 likesIt’s kinda funny… I’d bet that most people here in the US are oblivious to the fact that we actually have bench trials—in which the judge acts as both the finder of law and the finder of fact, and basically decides the case instead of a jury—all the time. Traffic court is I think a good typical example of this: the logistics of getting a jury together for every traffic court case would be impractical, and the stakes of traffic infractions are sufficiently low that presumably it’s been determined to be a worthwhile tradeoff for practicality. But many other things, such as civil lawsuits in federal court, can also potentially go to a bench trial, depending on the circumstances.
5 likesFor serious criminal stuff, though, there’s typically (or is it always… I get state and federal courts stuff mixed up sometimes) a guaranteed right to a jury trial. And so anything remotely high profile (that would be covered by the media or whatever) tends to be a jury trial.
At least in principle, the notion is that a jury of “your peers” will be able to most fairly adjudicate a person. I’m not an expert on the subject; all I know is that apparently that was considered the best idea by the late-18th-century people who set up our country’s system. I’m sure there are pros and cons to it; the cons are definitely at least easier to think of, I think. Stuff like peremptory strikes being allowed—where lawyers from either side can dismiss particular people during jury selection without having to give a reason (which is of course therefore used in many cases to remove people for completely illegal reasons, such as their race)—make it questionable that juries are really as representative as we’d like to think. Another major downside of juries is that most people are really dumb. (I’m sure competing systems have their own downsides too.)
Maybe so that if/when she was found it would appear that she was kidnapped and suffocated instead of drowning in the pool while under Casey’s supervision..? If Casey was initially planning on sticking with the kidnapping story to hide that she drowned in the pool she would want to make it seem like it was a kidnapping.
1 likePersonally I don’t believe that, but trying to answer your question as to what the jury may have been thinking about the duct tape. Or maybe the evidence wasn’t conclusive that the duct tape was actually around her mouth..? Maybe they felt that the duct tape was used to seal the bag?
@juutie it’s weirder that one guy decides your fate 😂 12 random people with no knowledge of you or the case is a much better way of doing it
3 likesIn Australia a jury is only present for civil cases. Something so serious like this should absolutely not be handled by anyone other than a professional
5 likes@Hi im Fieldy Holding a corrupt judge accountable is easier than 12 randoms
6 likesI think the closest thing to a jury we have in Germany is "Schöffengericht", but they only deal with rather minor cases (with a possible max sentence of 4 years according to Wikipedia). Schöffen are basically "honorary judges", but not just some random civilians.
3 likes@Rob Oc to corrupt 12 randoms is way harder then 1 guy
0 likes"Why are you calling now? Why didn't you call 31 days ago?"
175 likesKudos to the dispatcher for saying that.
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How could that NOT be anybody's first question, given the circumstances? It's like giving someone kudos for asking "what's the address?" , after calling to have a pizza delivered to the house. If that wasn't the first question, the dispatcher would not be a very good 9-1-1 call screener.
2 likesthe lawyer was like "She drowned in a pool." and a few minutes he was like "The question of how she died will never be answered." (when the definitive cause of death; suffocation was proven beyond any shadow of a doubt). he was also like "Don't sentence my client based on feelings, theories and possibilities without providing any evidence..." and then proceeded to base his defence on feelings, theories and possibilities while not providing zero evidence whatsoever, when the police had a crapton of evidence and facts proving Casey's involvement.
77 likeshow the jury found her not guilty is absurd. the jury wasn't incompetent, they were bribed.
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1 like@Cat Boy how long was dis trial for
0 likes@Cat Boy How is that an excuse? They could have ended the trial by finding her guilty, as she obviously was. I can't believe anyone would even give that excuse. We wanted to get out of jury duty faster so we ignored all the evidence and let a child-murderer free.
5 likesThe fact she got away with killing her daughter is beyond me. Sickening.
81 likesHard to believe it's been almost fourteen years. So sad. That little girl should be getting ready to go to her prom, getting her driver's license, looking at colleges, and giggling with her friends over their crushes. So freakin' sad and pointless. What a waste. 😢
76 likesRewatching this one year later and still cannot believe she got off. This woman is proof that the justice system is broken.
68 likesI always thought that I was good at lying if I needed to but this girl is like an entirely different plane of reality with it. If there were Academy Awards or Oscar's for pathological lying she would be the Daniel Day Lewis of the category. It's crazy /terrifying / completely facinating / and dumbfounding all at once
21 likesThe most amazing thing of this case is that her capacity to lie and deceive also applies to the jury! Incredible. One thing is to deceive your parents, another is to deceive the entire legal system! And imagine how powerful she feels now!!!
10 likesit took forever to watch this one since this is one of the worst cases i have seen someone get away with their crime. What she did was horrible and the fact that she covered it up and seemed to not care was awful. idk how she avoided serious jail time. biggest miscarriage of justice. Makes me sick
13 likesChris Watts probably looked at this and went, "eh, this looks easy." Fortunately he is the worst criminal ever in terms of lying and covering up.
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@StonieeB all she did was incriminate herself & tell obvious, ridiculous lies.
2 likesThis is insane to me it's so clear that she is guilty but yet isn't even charged with child neglect or anything when she waited so much time before she even said her child was missing. Even then her mother was the one that called not her.
2 likesI cannot believe she was found not guilty, literally everyone knows she did it, even her own family, her mother knew right away
8 likescan’t help but tear up when hearing her father talk to her… That sad excuse for a mother/woman is disgusting and does not deserve the loyalty and love of her parents
9 likeseverything was proven already, this really upsets me. There was so much big clues especially the search history of Casey. I don't understand why they wont lock her up. She's been lying since highschool and dated many guys with wild outgoing (probably crazy) personality. They even found caylee's body with her nose and mouth covered in ducktape. HOW. just HOW did she die by drowning.
3 likesMy jaw dropped when they called her dad a pedophile. This is the first documentary I’ve watched on this case. I’ve always known about it but it’s such a painful case to read into. I saw how loving and supportive her parents are and what a stab she took at her dad. How could she have gotten away with this. I hope so many people hate Casey that her life’s a living hell!!!
0 likesher manipulation tactics are so incredibly skilled and so eerie to witness
11 likesWhat's sad & scary among her killing a beautiful baby girl is all the damn evidence that they had on her yet a lawyer was able to walk in a courtroom an convince the jurors she was innocent. Smdh our justice system needs to be fixed in so many ways
1 likeThe justice system in our country is seriously flawed to let a person like Casey Anthony be acquitted, this pathological liar. It breaks my heart to know this little angel Caylee is no longer with us.
0 likeseverything was proven already, this really upsets me. There was so much big clues especially the search history of Casey. I don't understand why they wont lock her up. She's been lying since highschool and dated many guys with wild outgoing (probably crazy) personality. They even found caylee's body with her nose and mouth covered in ducktape. HOW. just HOW did she die by drowning.
0 likesIts also so sad to see her parents so divided in this. The mom knows she done it but still won't admit it but her father knows the truth that she done it. If it was the other way around it would seem like the father got her off because he's a cop but she tried to put it all on him. Shes a freaking coward. Poor little thing will never get justice 💔
0 likesAnd this just proves how emotional people can be. Placing feeling over fact when it was very blatantly proven that Casey Anthony was and is guilty. That poor little girl Caylee will never receive justice, due to her mothers amazing manipulation & conning skills. Sad to think she would’ve been just about my age by now, horrible how messed up our world is.
0 likesTo me, Casey is a clear example of a pathological liar. When cornered about a lie, she tells another one to gain sympathy and spins another tale. To the point, often, where the person will begin to believe in their own mythologies. She did it when she flunked out of college, and I believe that’s what she was doing when her attorney claimed she was abused as a child. I don’t believe there was enough evidence to convict but it seems most like she did it. And in truth, Casey probably convinced herself of her own innocence.
1 likeyou’re telling me that casey looked up suffocation and yet was pronounced not guilty? god i hate this system.
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She looked up Chloroform too
2 likes@Giuliana CR i feel like she was looking for options to kill caylee
2 likesIf I was her father it’d be hard not wanting to strangle or hurt your own daughter to find out where an innocent child might be….,,
3 likesEspecially knowing that she’s probably involved in it.
Her parents gave her no consequences for her actions/lies.....and later a jury. I still cannot believe to this day they found her not guilty.
0 likesI am pretty sure that her dad (the sheriff) got her out of this... she is absolutely guilty but it's not always about what you can prove, but who you know...
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Yup The lawyer was also sleeping with her so he made sure to do his best in her defense. Sickening on all levels
2 likesProsecution could've easily proved to jury, that she is a sociopath and immediately should be put behind bars.
3 likesKey questions
Amount of lies she told to detectives.
Why used duct tape, if she didn't killed?
Why get tattoo, after her daughter death?
Why she mentioned, she has never been so happy in long time in her dairy?
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Suffocation search history..
1 likeSeems like the prosecution deserves far more blame than they have recieved. How do you let this happen.
0 likesThere is seriously a case study that needs to be done about Florida sun and it’s absolute and direct correlation to creating homicidal maniacs
1 likeI already watched this video so offen.
4 likesBut still better than most of the new videos on youtube these days.
The quality of narration, the humour, is genious!
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I watched it just now and of all his videos this is the one I won't come back to. Due to that verdict. Holy shit!
0 likes@A. Ducky I understand you, that is totally crazy, how this one turned out...
0 likesBut...at least there is much to learn, how to avoid people with similar behaviour (not so extreme preferable...)
Still can’t believe how a former cop with her daughter fooled again the whole community… same as with Graduation! Now she is feeling like Super Woman 🤟 as she said and she was right … but about prosecutors : WASTE
0 likesHow she got off with that will always blow my mind. I'll never forgot the day she got away with it, so heartbreaking
0 likesI know from Bailey sarian's version that the parents were told they'd only be allowed in court if they didn't show any emotion.... But the moment the rape allegations were made, the dad's face didn't twitch while Casey was there sobbing.... In that moment for a second I thought she was the victim
0 likesSo MANY people like this who are obviously lying act passively in interviews: agreeing continually with the officer but outside? They are aggressive & argumentative. First she says the media is garbage. Then seconds later it’s I agree, they are so great & helpful with tips for my daughter. Where’s her confusion or anger? Her terror should be palpable.
3 likesBaez did a good job conflating “beyond a reasonable doubt” to “beyond any conceivable doubt”. The jury obviously thought the latter and when prosecutors didn’t have a video of the murder, they thought oh gee we have no idea - “not guilty”
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No idea how this comment went unliked. You hit the nail on the head. As you said, it’s beyond reasonable doubt, not any conceivable doubt imagined and unimagined in the scope of the universe. With that line of thinking even a video of an actual crime could not be relied upon as evidence in a court considering how good technology is now. I have such issues with this jury. They failed that little girl. I cannot stand looking at Baez’s smug face any more than I can Casey’s.
0 likesThat was the most irritating crime I’ve ever heard, like how in the fuck could you sit there and laugh knowing you murdered your child, and fact that she’s not guilty? Like who else could have killed the kid when she made up two fake ppl🤦🏻♀️
7 likesWe should have been trying to figure out whether or not the murder was premeditated… not if she had done it. I think she was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.. what a circus 🎪
1 likeI mean we all know that she murdered her child and will go to hell…but can we take a minute and consider goddamn she had an excellent lawyer! Holy shit. That’s some insane manipulation of 12 ppl at once in a matter of idk how many minutes. Wow.
0 likesDamn the way she lied even about the trivial things is absurd!!! That's disturbing
1 likeI'm still boggled at the point where they accused Casey's father of SA.. like is that true or was it just bs???
6 likesThis case is just one example of wrong people on the wrong side. The State's side is just being too follow-the-rule and boring compared to the defendant's side. The defendant's side is so slick with social engineering it irritates me.
1 likeI’ve gone back to so many cases.. how they’ve failed the victim horribly, and I’m thinking to myself.. where have we gone wrong?? All of us. To allow the perpetrator go free??... I know it’s not all cases. But.. this one is beyond my understanding of how she got off. Her poor daughter died twice.
1 likeWe really miss your other channel, as a veteran i would watch The Case of Andy B about once a month, i was really bummed to see it removed 😥😥
2 likesThis case still infuriates me to this day!
2 likesI'm just heartbroken that she's still out free and for example the Menendez Brothers are still in prison after doing so much time. This world is fucked.
2 likesthe fact that her best friend was crying worried abt her kid more than her.
5 likesgod the way she talks about her mistakes " i was naive" " i thought i could handle it but obviously i couldn't". It sounds like how i email a teacher trying to let me make up a missing assignment.
1 likeI really don't know how a defence lawyer can defend this guilty piece of shit who clearly killed her child. Was her behaviour normal? No it wasn't, she don't give a damn about anyone but herself and I cannot believe how she was found not guilty...that poor child, may she rest in peace
0 likesIsn't the lack of regard for human life, especially for a person's child, a telltale sign of a psychopath?
1 likeJustice was not served, she is guilty as hell. She had choices, the loving grandparents could have took the wee one .R.I.P LITTLE ANGEL
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They were thugs and needed in prison also for raising a monster
0 likesIf I remember this case correctly and you may in the course of this video to mention that as well, I think her dad it’s not both her parents were also involved in covering up what happened to this poor little girl
0 likesI want people to open up the case again and make her go in the jail, this is ridiculous how she is still free
0 likesThats so sad for the parents of casey, having a kid that only lies to you
0 likesI sure miss your videos. So smart and the best narrator on YuTube. I re watch over and over
1 likeWait wait wait... she is free? How can she be free after all the evidence we get to see here? I wasnt there but how? So that fucked up being got to lie about the most horrific thing a human can possibly do on national television and got away with it? She actually got away with it? This actually makes me sick...
1 likeSo… according to the jury Casey didn’t murder her child (😒🙄), which means that there would be someone out there who did murder her child and is walking free, or she really did “drown in the pool,” which was covered up and would be obstruction of justice……
0 likesPeople who can lie without conscience are sociopaths. A sociopath who got away with it.
1 likeThe audacity of her Lawyers to scold the public post trial, as if we don't still know she's guilty, sit down! 🙄
0 likesHow appropriate for Baez to represent a liar ... and I truly hope that him or Casey or the knuckle-head jurors read these comments below!
0 likesSimilar thing happened with someone i know. The mother doesn't want to do anything for her kids hates them and hate the idea that her life changed and she has responsibilities. But because their father still alive and involved he took him away to live with his parents. And she abandoned them completely even though one day one of the kids got hurt and broke his finger. She was careless didn't even want to look at him when the father asked her to come together in the hospital yet she came for paper work. The same mother showed aggressive violent to her 2 kids because she need to sleep sit watch tv go to the mall party but they are in the way of her happiness. In her sick mind her kids are objects like belongings and she has the right and the choice to do whatever she wants with them because they mDe her suffer enough when they came out of her. I didn't know about Kaylee's mother till yesterday and it's disturbing that she didn't get death sentence for that. Also the investigation was not strong enough and that's sad
0 likesThe way she’s breathing says it all she breath harder when the lady said they found the baby girl with duct tape in mouth and ears she was freaking out inside
1 likeWell hopefully we learned our lesson that whenever you pin a Michael Bay lawyer up against whomever directs lifetime movies, this happens.
1 likeGrandmother: OH MY GOD MY GRANDDAUGHTER HAS BEEN MISSING FOR A MONTH AND I JUST FOUND OUT PLEASE HELP 😭
3 likesDispatch: can I speak to her mother?
Casey: Hello? 🙄
the fuck
In short.....
0 likesShe killed the kid so that she can live freely, care free and do what she wants...
So sad for the kid ending up with that kind of mother...
In short.....
0 likesShe killed the kid so that she can live freely, care free and do what she wants...
So sad for the kid ending up with that kind of mother...
the jurors of this case should be tried for criminal negligence
1 like"I look like hell" fitting, cause thats exactly where you're going
19 likesI go home later than curfew and I get called by my full name by my parents. This girl probably killed her daughter and lied to the police and still gets called sweetheart and gorgeous!!!??? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE AMERICAN PARENTS????
0 likesBtw I’m halfway thru the vid. Now watching Casey have a phone call with her parents from jail.
I want to know what the interaction was like with her father after it was said that she was sexually assaulted
0 likesI hope this jury loses sleep every night of their lives over this
3 likesLook how much fun we’re having in the “my daughter is missing because I killed her!” interview!
0 likesWhat she said about her father was decisive.Then the activists did their thing.
0 likesSeems like the investigators didn't have any experience interrogating a sociopath.
0 likesWhy in the hell would you concoct such an elaborate list of people, relationships, and situations knowing they will be proven a lie??
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The ease and smoothness with which she tells those lies...it's disturbing
0 likesThree things in life are certain: death, taxes and Casey Anthony is guilty.
0 likesHow latino you want the fake name to be??
4 likesHer: yes!
Defendant attorney knew how to play his cards and manipulate sleepyheads(one jury was halfasleep in clip) into making decision in his favor
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I thought that was a judge, thanks for letting me know it was actually a juror
0 likesWhat an absolutely infuriating verdict.
The real brilliance with this was the defence. The Prosecution were prepared for an entirely different kind of trial, based off the lies she had been saying, and all the evidence she collected. Then the defence comes out and pins it on the dad and sexual assault. It was a baseless accusation that you can't disprove. And since there was no 100% evidence proving/showing her kill the kid, you cannot prove the dad didn't do it.
0 likesThe prosecution just were not ready for such a case in the slightest. Planting that seed of doubt in their minds, and then elaborating on that in the closing statement was just masterful by the defence attorney. It's a real shame that the prosecution threw the case. Having been to court myself for things, it is pretty common to see prosecutors get walked over by the defence.
To clarify, I think its pretty obvious she killed the kid herself, and is a sociopath.
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how is the car smelling like a body and her search history not evidence of her killing the kid? or AT THE VERY LEAST playing a part in it, that still confuses me, and the things written in the diary, i think she just got insanely lucky with the defense making up bullshit about someone else being a rapist which leads to the events, (like they always do)
0 likesWait a second, how the f*** was she not convicted?????????
3 likesHowever, a case must not be decided because you feel sorry for someone or angry at someone, because they are not the source for evidence despite of it being a fact. The scenario here was a Harsh Reality that the "LAW IS BLIND".
0 likesShe's so full of crap oh my god!
0 likesWhether she killed her or not...whether the people who spoke their mind against her are considered "to not have a damn clue about the case" ..it still doesn't make any commen sense that she did not call for help when her daughter "went missing" she got a frickin' tattoo about how beautiful life is when her daughter was "kidnapped", she wrote in her journal she was the happiest when her daughter is "missing"...said it was the right decision to make...lied to the detectives who just wanted to help her out...how the hell did she get away with all of this by "no proof"!!! This is so messed up! We don't need proof at this point we have our common sense!
And to say her father molested her out of the blue like that .. don't know if it's true but for sure it wasn't relevant..
HOW TF DID SHE GET AWAY WITH THAT SHE GOT A GOOD ASS LAWYER
0 likesHer actions throughout the entire video are awful, but she was the most hate able for me when she used her phone call. Everyone is telling you how worried they are re and how sad they are and all you can do is bitch and moan about them actually having emotion.
1 likeJust a question of time until somebody finds the truth
0 likesI trust my own judgement… coming from a sociopath that’s jarring
0 likesBizarre that grandma called 911 when granddad's a detective 🤔
0 likesHOW HOWWW DID SHE GET AWAY WITH THIS 🤬🤬
1 likeOMG I FUCKING LAUGHED SO HARD FOR THE VERDICT. WHAT A GREAT LAW SYSTEM U GOT THERE thE pOWeRhOuSe nAtIoN
0 likesShit like this makes me want to become a prosecutor… wtf
2 likesThis is what you get when you are basing an evidence off of materialistic paradigm.. scientific evidence trumps logical deduction. We can deduce without a doubt that she is the killer..but scientific evidence can't do much to prove that she was guilty.
0 likesi know its inappropriate but the randy marsh "your a god damn liar!" popped into my head numerous times.
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Omg yes!
0 likesMy blood boil when I see this woman.
1 likeTruth is a blessing. You can escape it, but you can't hide from it.she deceived the system but believe me ,HER LIFE IS HELL.
0 likesAttorney killed them in the end… what about her Google Searches?! Was it her father?! What a joke…🤡
0 likesShe’s not mental, she’s evil. There is a difference..
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But evil is a consequence of a mentally disturbed person.
26 likes@R SC yes but not always. Evil person is also a rude one , selfish , arrogant etc
17 likesShe’s a MONSTER...PURE EVIL! But she WILL ANSWER TO THE GOD OF EARTH and HEAVEN!
6 likesShe's most likely the killer wtf is wrong with people
6 likesExactly
1 likei still think there is a mental component to her you would have to have something wrong with you to be smug like she is.
4 likesMaybe she's not evil, maybe she just had very late second thoughts about abortion :D
6 likes@Lucy lu rude, selfish and arrogant isn't evil.... lack of empathy for other people especially your own daughter is evil, and lack of empathy is a mental illness/handicap
2 likes@Raptor most likely? More like most definitely
1 likeNaw definitely a sociopath
3 likes@SaturnineXTS abortion is also evil
0 likesTHANK YOU. ithis whole thing insults everyone else who struggles with mental illness! even an atheist will concede that evil exists, "evil" as a system of beliefs and actions and choices that are so wrong they can never ever be right.
1 like@R SC not a consequence. it's disturbing to *us* but not to that person. she functions in society. can't even call it narcissistic personality disorder because she doesn't aspire to grandeur.
0 likesHumans are evil anyway so....
2 likes@R SC yeah, she was caught doing weed right?
0 likes@SaturnineXTS
0 likes🤣🤣
We all are almost equally evil to start with.
0 likesThis is why I’m afraid of having kids… no matter how you raise them they could still turn out to be monsters
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Don't feel that way. Casey's parents were not good, They enabled and spoiled her, that's part of the reason she turn out that way.
0 likesThis is the ONLY JCS video that I have never finished. I’ve even seen all the deleted and unlisted ones. But I get too fucking angry and I have to stop this one before it ends, every single time.
0 likesShe 100% did it.
1 likeIf its any consolation, she did spend 2 1/2 years in jail.
0 likesEventually someone's anger is gonna catch up to her, and she won't be able to talk her way out of it. I'll be giddy when I read that headline.
0 likesthe way she was talking abt calyee in past tense in the beginning of the interrogations :(
2 likesPETITION TO RE OPEN THIS CASE!! Jeff doesn't even have a child...how did they not find her guilty ?! She said that's where she dropped her off for MONTHS but he doesn't even have a child (I fact checked...he wasn't lying) what the hell...nevermind all the other lies and OBVIOUS guilt..nevermind Juliette not even existing. HOW I actually want to know HOW did she get off ?!
0 likesJust shocked with final results... Poor child... But we need to admit that investigation done was poor. Anyway, this is only a partial winner... If guilty, final judgement is coming....
0 likesnot to be "that" person but I hate how she conveniently put the blame on a non-existent POC because that just makes it so believable right? Imagine putting a (non-influential) POC on that stand, would they have gotten the same amount of sympathy in their verdict?
0 likesI can't belive she was found innocent. Still can't belive she's free allowed to have more kids
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I think it's very telling that she hasn't had more kids.
0 likesHer parents get me just as mad as she does
0 likesShe wasn't found guilty for anything, that's literally unbelievable. Just shows you how useless most justice systems are.
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it's infuriating that she walks free and there are thousands who are falsely imprisoned just because of some overzealous, ego'd out cop/detective.
78 likesshe was found guilty on four different counts of lying to the police and sentenced to 1 year in county jail
5 likesIt’s because of the jury. The problem with the justice system, like almost anything else, is the people.
20 likes@Brigadier Harsh so the justice system
12 likesshe's white and more importantly a female don't act surprised
15 likes@URAGAN90 yeah I'm not saying sh e was punished enough, just stating the facts
4 likes@Ced you’re also not saying that she should be punished more…
2 likes@Rum Ham or the prosecutors and DAs who want to win the cases to pad their wallets so they make a matter of justice a game for their money. Or the judges who impose ridiculous sentences on minor crimes.
3 likesBut there's also the cops who bury their noses in their work and bring to light monsters; prosecutors and DAs who fight for people who need a lawyer to help them fight for justice; and judges who fairly mete out appropriate and sensible rulings. Despite what many people say, they are out there.
Support the ones who do good work, and decry the ones who abuse their position.
There IS no true Justice System made by Man.
4 likes@Rum Ham Blame her bomb ass lawyer legit man was playing with their emotions not the facts
0 likes@Brigadier Harsh That reminds me of O.J case
0 likes@william smith Probly related to the final straw laws. I get why they are there, but I agree, its bullshit
0 likes@william smith lmao citation needed
0 likesor just how good her defending lawyer was..?
1 like@Pierce Hart Very true!
0 likes@Ced Acquitted doesn’t mean innocent half the time….
1 like@Ced s i m p l e
1 like@zwebackshyper what about OJ?
0 likes@KidSavage420 he should be in prison aswell…
0 likesI'm not american, but I thought the judge still can judge on his/her own like he doesn't need to follow the jury? We don't have jury system here in my country sorry if im wrong
0 likesShe slept with the judge 😂
0 likes@zwebackshyper she's a woman, that's enough.
0 likes@Rum Ham sheeesh a lie was not told . Exactly..
0 likesAndre Yosua the private detective who worked casey’s case also worked OJs case. And Casey lives with the private detective that worked her case.
0 likesMy ex wife exactly. No real emotion whatsoever just completely manufactured based on situations!
1 likeMan i watched all that only to be disapponted at the end. Shouldve been guilty
0 likes20:18 that roast was brutal 😂😂😂
0 likesIf this way a guy, there's no way he would've gotten off with no charges.
0 likesCaylee would've been one year older than me. that's strange to think about. this is so horrible.
0 likes“This case has been put to my attention of a missing child for 31 days. Not my child, yours. That’s a cause for amber alert and investigation. First tip off is you lying, a pathological liar.”
0 likesDidn’t know what to do
Don’t know what to do
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Knowing media was involved.
0 likesEvil me:
Would of left free of charge. [though speculation.] this would’ve sped the trial at the end still comes to emotion and little on the evidence.
The jury has smooth brains
1 likeI don't like the defendant attorney, but i don't doubt the case if he was to be on prosecution side, she would be behind bars.
1 likeIm confused tho was she legit kidnapped? Why was her skelton remains found with duct tape around her mouth and nose and now apparently she drowned inna pool? AND why tf is caseys dad not in jail HES SITTIN RIGHT THERE and he was a cop idk this case is insane
0 likesThat lawyer is fucking good wow
1 likeNah her lying skills are insane ??????
1 likeHaters gonna hate, but that’s an outstanding defendant attorney
0 likesWhat a joke!! the little girl had duck tape on her mouth! how did she drown in a swimming pool!
1 likeomg she just slaughtered her kid and got away with it
1 likei feel sorry for her
0 likesShe’s free.. where is she I just want to talk
10 likesOkay, mind blown. Justice did not prevail.
0 likesYour daughter is missing 31 days! And you just smoking marijuana what kind of mother is this!!
2 likesThis makes me sick and there's was a video of her in a club or something while her daughter was missing
0 likesREST IN PARADISE CAYLEE.
1 likeJust a fact after this trial that completely makes me mad:
824 likes- Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez sued Casey for defamation. Zenaida has told reporters that she lost her job, was evicted from her house, and received death threats against herself and her children as a result of Anthony's lies.
- In September 2015, a judge ruled in favor of Anthony, stating: "There is nothing in the statement…to support (Fernandez-Gonzalez's) allegations that (Anthony) intended to portray (the nanny) as a child kidnapper and potentially a child killer.
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How would this be possible? That poor woman lost her job, was evicted, and the lies that Anthony told were the cause. Anthony was definitely at fault and should have been held responsible by the Court. What the hell is wrong with the people in Florida?
181 likesThat sweet white privilege
200 likes''Ms. Anthony said Zanny kidnapped her baby not Zenaida'' - the judge probably
44 likesI'm confused now, because @15:18 JCS says "Zenaida doesn't exist. Casey never had a babysitter." Does this mean that Casey Anthony made up a name, and it just so happened to be the name of a real person?
171 likesOnlyFactsPlease yeah same here, I’m confused
35 likesWow
0 likesOnlyFactsPlease yes
11 likesZenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez also used to work as a hotel cleaning lady and stole a guest's credit card while he was receiving cancer treatment at the hospital
26 likes@Richard Flynn You prove it doesn't exist
19 likesRichard Gaylord educate yourself lmao
27 likes@Nestor Martinez Ehhhhh no
8 likes@MISSKAYKAY Bruh positive claims need evidence this is like logic 101
26 likes@lucia Nice regurgitation
9 likes@OnlyFactsPlease Id have to guess that she was "a" Zenaida, not "the" Zenaida. When the story of Bill Clinton having an affair with Monica Lewinsky broke, many Monica Lewinskys were questioned about their involvement with the president even though they had never even met the president. I remember one Monica Lewinsky going on late night TV being very confused as to why people were asking about "her and Bill".
36 likesThe United States criminal justice system is good....in concept. Unfortunately, it's a complete charade in reality. There is nothing fair about it. There is nothing just about it. There is nothing right about it. In fact, there are thousands, and thousands, and thousands of things wrong with it. But there is so much money to be made in the system that there is zero chance it will ever be fixed. Absolutely zero.
29 likes@spontaneousdentalhydroplosion why don't you try. It's not hard for me to explain white privilege. Shouldn't be hard for you to explain why you think it's not real
4 likes@OnlyFactsPlease JCS did say she didn't exist.
0 likes@Nestor Martinez lol delusional
7 likesRichard Gaylord ok gaylord
1 likeThey gave that finding in court on th e basis Casey made up Zenaida's full specific name as a coincidence and that it was not defamatory. She didn't simply make up that name any more than she made up "Juliet Lewis" w Universal (the actor). Casey is not that creative, or smart. She saw Zenaida's name somewhere and being disturbing and stupid and racist she banked on the police believing her - a white woman over a Hispanic/"Dominican" quote "mixed" woman with negative stereotypes including coveting/kidnapping and sex traffic of pretty white female children.
12 likesOh to be a hot white woman
2 likes@OnlyFactsPlease That's the assumption that was made; that Casey made up the name and it coincidentally belongs to someone but Casey was adamant about Zenaida's name, becoming upset and repeatedly telling her family to make sure they were researching it properly and the spelling -- it was part of her plan to throw Zenaida under the bus. A local news outlet reported that they found Zenaida under the same name and spelling with the hyphenation as Casey stipulated. They interviewed Zenaida and yes, she was harrassed by Casey's supporters and probably Casey herself.
5 likes@spontaneousdentalhydroplosion ah my b, i thought he said it does exist and so i thought u and the other guy were the ones saying it doesn't
2 likesThe courts faught so hard to protect the monster.
0 likes@Misha A Yikes.
0 likes@Nestor Martinez isnt white privilige 🤣
2 likes@Nestor Martinez the real zenaida isnt even black 😂😂
6 likesWTF? Seriously?!?
0 likesOnlyFactsPlease she didn’t exist.. there is a person with that name though
2 likesHow is that possible if she isn't a real person though?
1 likeOnlyFactsPlease She exists but Casey did not know her at all. I think she somehow saw that name somewhere and it stuck with her. I think she just plugged it in to the rest of her extensive lies. But, again, Casey did not know the real Zenaida.
1 like@Hasidic Kaiju thank you man but you definitely need to educate yourself on Twitter in an echo chamber for a while before you aren't "ignorant" anymore.
6 likesOnlyFactsPlease yes.
0 likes@Matt Phillips isn't that the problem with almost all institutions in America? That everything, the media, the prison system, the Healthcare system and therefore also laws are only aimed at making Profit?
2 likesSo Zany did actually exist?
1 like@Nestor Martinez its great isnt it! That's something they can never take away!
0 likesThere is no justice in America.
0 likesCasey Anthony has done a deal with the devil. She has some unholy protection.
😂😂😂
0 likesWow this is sick. Why is she so protected?
0 likes@Nestor Martinez people like you grant white privilege way more power than it deserves. Mexican name, must be about racism.
5 likesIf she had won, anyone with her name could then also sue for damages, real or not. Casey didn't technically slander this women , just happened to completely destroy her life and that of her children.
Horrendously unfair? A flawed justice system? Absolutely.
Does white privilege exist? Surely.
Do people like you make the problem worse by attributing power to it when the only 'evidence' is a name? Yes.
Unless it was obvious racism in court, in which case my bad. And even then it would have been enabled by the law. Just crying wolf every single time you encounter interracial injustice worsens everything and detracts from evident problems. Like the fact anyone can walk away from that unpunished.
@Hasidic Kaiju go back to Reddit
1 like@Nestor Martinez I know right!! And that judge with his black privilege getting him that sweet job,and all them black NBA and NFL players and all them black track and field athletes and all them black hip-hop stars. Was it Latino privilege got her lawyer his job? No it was hard work. Hard work wins every time.You should look in the mirror because racists come in all colours.
9 likes@Hasidic Kaiju incel alert
1 likeNot possible....as the police already said/know that there is no such person.
0 likes@Nestor Martinez racist
6 likes@SouthernTruth Chick Then you missed my point entirely. Just about everyone is privileged in one way or more depending on the situation. Saying white privilege doesn't exist is willful ignorance. White privelege, black privelege, young privelege, male or female privelege, monetary privelege, etc. It all exists whether you choose to see it or ignore it.
3 likes@Nestor Martinez it's great isnt it! That is one thing that I couldn't live without. Life would be crap!
0 likesPeople don't realise or tend to care about how corrupt and fucked the justice system is or police are, until they come up against it. That poor woman. Casey, and her kind, just win in our current society. Psychopaths and evil behavior are the measure of success nowadays virtually.
3 likes@Hasidic Kaiju Ending your inflammatory respone with "my point proven" doesn't prove your point, nor does it make me want to go out of my way to provide you with the very accessible evidence of the things you're asking me to show you. Also you missed like half of the entire point I was trying to make. Something tells me you need to get out more and focus on more pleasant things than reactionary rhetoric.
3 likes@Shiiva Inu you never made a point. you just generalize entire populations based on skin color and/or sex. which is incredibly racist but the irony is lost on you bc you're so "woke." just for once, think for yourself, stop parroting stuff you're told to get an emotional rise out of you. and look at people as people... instead of their skin color. sheesh
4 likesWTF
0 likes@enemy In what way was I generalizing? Saying that privelege is circumstantial? That it varies depending on the situation and person? In what world is that not looking at each individual?
3 likesJonseon Exactly. She fabricated everything.
0 likesBlame some minority person with exotic sounding name, works every time if you are white.
3 likes@Nestor Martinez Ranks right up there with that affirmatively appointed, shiftless judge ... dont it?
0 likesI thought she didn’t exist
1 likeBut Anthony didn't intend to portray Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez as guilty, it was just a lie she pulled out of her ass to protect herself. She never even had a babysitter, let alone by that name. The fact that there just so happens to be a person by the same name affected by Anthony's lies is regrettable and awful, but not intentional, so she sadly doesn't have a case.
0 likesI thought the babysitter didn't exist?
4 likesCan't believe people have made this racist bloody hell a poor little girl murdered yes I am 99.9 percent sure she did it but proof is needed and they had none surely there should be DNA in the car any CCTV footage? Lots of questions
0 likes@Hasidic Kaiju No such thing as white privilege because OJ Simpson? That case happened over 20 years ago and we're supposed to remember it eternally as THE symbol of unfair black advantage over victimized whites. George Floyd and Breanna Taylor were murdered a few MONTHS ago and we're already supposed to dismiss them as excuses for "bad behavior." That's what white privilege is, in a nutshell.
2 likesBDLIME he doesn’t have to. It’s like saying “prove god doesn’t exist” you can’t
0 likes@Shiiva Inu My point was proven. Sorry you disgagree with my point but that does not negate that the point I was making was infact proven.
0 likesChass Pidoto someone with that name exists
0 likesTrueCrimeRIP she did a deal with Satan
0 likes@Shiiva Inu you immediately see skin color and make sweeping generalizations. Literally the textbook definition of racism... how are you oblivious to that?
0 likesDo you call this " justice " ????
0 likesThe way she talks .. reminds me of how my ex talked 😂😂😂
0 likes34:05 she has that crazy Lizzy Borden stare.
1 likeWe miss you JCS
0 likesShe killed that baby without a doubt
2 likesDon't worry. If she is guilty she will pay when the time of reckoning comes.
0 likesHer defense attorney is a bastard and should be locked up with her. Its so obvious she did it.
0 likesWtf she was clearly guilty
0 likesShe’s up there is OJ… this one boggles my mind and will forever unfortunately.
0 likesHow can they all talk and laugh and talk about eating whatever.. Jesus…. This makes me so angry
0 likesWow! At least we know where the TV show "Boston Legal" get there ridiculous ideas from!
0 likes"i know in my heart that shes not far" ...
0 likesWtf did i just watch? So there was facts about her made up names and still she gets off with it?
1 likeDetective: "Juliette Lewis!?? Well who's the General Manager?.. Jerry Lewis!?"
0 likesWhat's fun is the dad probably paid for her attorney..
0 likesWOW... when her friend is breaking down bc she doesn’t want Caylee to be hurt and Casey literally just says “Wow talking to y’all was a waste”... this lady sucks so hard
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I don't remember the case well. I'm a bit younger than casey so I wasn't paying attention to the case when it was happening...I'm wondering why behavioral experts weren't more involved. I understand that not everyone behaves the same ways....but most mothers have universal characteristics. She was behaving in such an unusual way, I know two psychologists said she was "normal" but I can't see her constantly lying as normal.
22 likesMel G I totally agree! I was definitely a child when this case was going on, but I also find it strange that two psychologists said that she was characteristically normal considering how little emotion she had when it came to her daughter being in danger. Just the fact that it took her an entire month to report it, and only at the insistence of her mother, shows a very callous and uncharacteristically cold demeanor towards her child. It’s absolutely mind boggling.
16 likesI just got at this part and came down to the comments to see if anyone else mentioned it. My jaw absolutely dropped and I had to pause because I could not comprehend what the hell it was I just heard. She SCREAMS "I am guilty" and it is so, so sad that her friend gave more of a shit for her kid's life than she ever did. As the saying goes, every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child. Disgusting.
13 likesIt's because she thought her friend was low key accusing her of doing it. Re-watch their phone conversation you can see why she ends up saying that, with that context in mind. Edit: Just realized this sounded like I'm defending her... Casey Anthony is EVIL. I have no idea how she sleeps at night.
2 likes@TC Talk definitely. People aren't considering the context. Her friend doesn't know what happened. Fact. Casey does. Fact. Her friend asks emphatically bordering on hysterics and Casey nonchalantly tells them that they are wasting HER time.
3 likesEveryone either knowingly or not pays for their sins
1 like@Shawn Zuehlke cash, check, or debit?
2 likesThe obvious disdain at her for breaking down over Caylee rather than feeling sorry for Casey is frustrating.
3 likesThat would make me give her a guilty verdict
2 likesOMG I instantly thought that. She obviously did not care about her daughter
0 likesThat's what REALLY got me too...
0 likes@Bruce fly: Wow, well that was sexist as fuck...
0 likes@Corvidae
0 likesReality isn't sexist and doesn't care about feelings.
@Bruce fly: No, but you sure are.
0 likes@Corvidae
0 likesStating reality isn't sexist and you make a fool of yourself if you think it is, sexist would be implying someone does an activity better due to his/her sex for example.
@HAASSSSS! And so is saying that only caring about one self is "typical women behaviour"...just as many men only cares about themselves, it's not a question of gender.
0 likes@HAASSSSS! And do you have anything to actually back this up or are just gonna continue to make baseless assumptions? :)
0 likes@Corvidae
0 likesI don't know, you tell me, you are the one in denial, I do make assumptions, but they are right most of the time and that's more than enough for me, so yes, I will still make assumptions everyday about everyone around me base on the worlds's and a myself's empirical evidence.
Its pretty clear to me that you just want to live in the current status quo instead of accepting reality as it is and leave a like in my comment like the other people that haven't said a word, they like me agrees with what I have mentioned and don't try to counterargument in order to feel better about their own reality.
@Corvidae
0 likesBy the way, you would do so much better in Twitter, where people don't have a brain and use emojis to hide their pain and emotions.
@HAASSSSS! You really don't like emotions do you? Sure you're not a sociopath?
0 likesThat's so sad... her best friend cared more about that child than her own mom. How disgusting.
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Diamond’s Daily Vlog funny how quick people are to defend abortion, like taking a child’s life should be brushed of.
3 likesBrian Kelly until you’re a woman who’s pregnant you’ll never understand the complexity of pregnancy and bringing a child into this world. Men shouldn’t speak on Women’s agendas. Go troll someone else 💀
21 likes@norman bates
0 likesAs someone who has been pregnant and just gave birth (naturally, no pain meds) less than six weeks ago, I agree. Buckle down and take responsibility for the life you create, even if that means finding another family for said life. Life is life, murder is murder. I was a rape baby, born into a poor and I am glad I was given a chance. My mom ultimately chose life, even though she was told to abort, and she thought about it (she had just given birth to my older brother - we're only one year apart). She says all the time that we're the reason she got out of the abusive relationship with my father, and why she was able to do better for herself.
But people instead choose to see children as nothing more than burdens. It's sad.
Dj d don’t “sweetheart” me I’m not your friend. You’re right abortion isn’t a heartless act it’s indeed traumatic but it should still be an option for women to take. As a PREGNANT woman rn I can attest to the fact that pregnancy and the cost of a child are NOT easy at all but a woman shouldn’t have to go through with a pregnancy if she doesn’t see herself fit to. I personally chose not to abort my baby because I knew I could manage parenthood but some people just CANNOT afford that luxury. Don’t preach about condoms and birth control because mistakes happen OFTEN and no every woman wants to go thru a pregnancy just to give their child up for adoption. Abortion is a woman’s right. Again, don’t speak on women’s agendas until you yourself are In our shoes. 🙂
6 likesDj d oh and might I add that my child’s father is mentally incapable of caring for our child due to depression and anxiety and I’m a single mother 🙂.
1 likeDj d I asked you not to use terms of endearment because we aren’t friends. You don’t respect simple requests lol. Your sagas of comments keep getting deleted by YouTube because you can’t follow rules and abide by community guidelines and request lol. We’re done talking Dj 😂💀
2 likes@ken Uh...
0 likes@Dj d Technically, men should have the same right to terminate their financial and legal responsibilities for an unwanted child before it's birth. I mean, if we're being completely legalistic.
1 likeAs much as I empathise with her, Casey's Mother is a total enabler. Calling her "Sweetheart" Still as if she's some sort of innocent little angel, when she knows full well, her gut instinct is screaming out "YOUR DAUGHTER HAS KILLED YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER!".
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@DownFromTheREEEfters Totally agree. Children who learn there are no consequences for their actions grow up with a sense of invulnerability and a wildly chaotic moral compass.
62 likesJohn C exactly
4 likes@David Meads absolutely. She has clearly held the power in their household and I sensed a level of fear from the parents, mostly the mother.
33 likesin fear, and in denial. i don't think i'd call her an enabler, just a mother who cannot comprehend what a cruel human her daughter is
41 likesedit: to elaborate, her mother does have some fault. her parenting played some role in casey taking what she wants when she wants it, but i don't have it in me to call her a bad person for it
She's clearly using denial as her coping mechanism.
16 likesRight? There would be NO small talk. It should have been "where is the baby? Your not gonna say? Well sit in here and ROT. Don't call us till your going to be honest".
17 likesThere are parents with children who have tried to kill them, and they’ll still love their children and will visit them in prison. Apparently it’s a common thing amongst parents to still love their children even after they do something horrendous.
11 likesI agree with u. I think her mom and dad enabled her but when she was in jail and they were talking to her I think she was just trying to get her to admit what happened to her daughter
15 likesCindy has said in interviews since the trial that she was just trying to make Casey think that she was on her side to get information out of her. We all know that her relationship with Casey was poor prior to all of this, so it's not like that behavior was common between them; it was all a show to get the truth out of her.
12 likesThe disconnect for me is in the years after the trial, Cindy went from believing that Casey did it to trying to create a relationship with her again. I think reality sunk in that Caylee is gone and that Casey is the closest thing she'll have to her granddaughter again. I don't know why she would want Casey back in her life knowing that she killed Caylee and lied about her own husband molesting her as a child but then again I don't know her mental state.
@Bill Pii kk
0 likesI think the mother knew all along that she did it. Sympathising is a great tool in breaking someone to tell the truth. It is just creating a comfortable environment for the girl to open up.
6 likesMy mum would disown me for lying about my job, never mind killing a child. Some of these kids who grow up with no consequences to their actions are dangerous people. They aren't living on the real world at all.
5 likes@Bill Pii what's the personality disorder u speak of?
0 likesAye. The parents were a push over to her. That phone call to her family was absolutely vile. You could see who wore the pants in the house. They weren't telling her what she wanted to hear / know so her true colours came out in the wash. Total narcissist. Creates the mess for herself and then blames everybody else.
2 likes@Moth’s Mummy that is what I believe too. It was the grandmother who called the police at the end of the day.
1 likeFed up, Sociopath, psychopath or at the very least a narcissist IMHO, my ex was a narcissistic sociopath so, I know them well.
2 likesAll of you should read the prosector’s book on casey- ‘imperfect justice’ BOTH her parents were enablers, her dad being more so. Her mom would TRY to put the hammer down on casey but always wimped out last second and enabled her. Hm. Seriously read the book, go to your local goodwill to buy it $2. Just look up what the book looks like then look for it on the shelves, pretty easy to spot
1 likeYou will hear that very often, that the parents, whether their child is innocent or not, will always support them, no matter what. That is what parents are for.
0 likesWatch ''The Curious Case of Dalia Dippolito'', this story is pretty much that story, but with the woman saying ''I didn't do anything'' instead of actually coming up with perfect stories for lies.
If you want to discover any woman’s real underlying character overhear her talking to her mother.
2 likesThe mother and the father have to ask them self, if they are involved in the death of that baby-girl. But at First its the daughter that done it. But in percent i would say 20 : 80%.
0 likesUsually in these situations detectives carefully prepare parents for every interaction with their accused children, they are taught what to say, they are given scripts, trained on tonality, given key words to pronounce, discussed strategy and other things. You can hear a big difference every time a parent talks from when another relative or friend talks, big difference between what they say and how they say it.
1 likeTrue, but as a parent it's hard to accept that, no one wants to believe their child is capable of such evil. Everyones child is special to them..well for the most part(excluding casey) you know the mother still loves her daughter but at the same time yea it's hard to accept and she knows the bitter truth
0 likesIts easier for us to pass judgment
But imagine if this was your child or close family member in this situation.
That's when things get rough emotionally.
Still, shame on Casey for what she did and her smug smile and putting her loved ones through this.
@Lee Mac True
0 likesJohn C what a crass remark. I’d be happy for you to show me the evidence for that claim. I have two boys, both in their 20’s, one of whom just got a First at University. Neither was ever ‘disciplined’ and each was brought up to recognise their place in the world and responsibility to themselves and others.
0 likes@bent o boxofire all super interesting, thanks for taking the time to write that.
0 likesYourPalHDee Exactly, I have 2 cousins that are horrible people because their parents have excused and enabled their bad behavior since childhood. Now they’re in their 40’s and they are such liars about everything.
1 like@Michael James Wow. I've never really thought about it but your right. Everyone is always telling me how nice and polite my daughter is and I always agree with them but at home, she is so nasty to me but would NEVER do that in front of anyone else. Until she got a serious boyfriend and started to treat him the same way. What you said is so true. I can't believe I've never thought about it before
0 likesYes this is what i was thinking, it is blatantly obvious and could even be part of the reason Casey is such a narcissist . . ..
0 likes@Michael James that's SO true. My girlfriend treats her mother so beautifully whereas my ex HATED her mother and it explains so much about who they are as people.
1 likeBad Parenting at its finest.
1 likeMother expresses concern for her missing granddaughter over the phone
3981 likesCasey: oh my god this is such a waste of time
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Yeah that part got me especially mad, since there’s many parallels between her and my oldest sister. Thank god my sister doesn’t have any kids...
121 likesHey...she wasn’t wrong
41 likesYou're such a drag, mum. Let's go partyyyyy
49 likes@Mr Nice Guy This is true! At that point it WAS a waste of time....because she was dead and laying on the side of a road.
40 likesshe presents like a narcissist. " where is Caylee " ? " This is a waist of time ". her kid isn't the primary concern for
34 likesAnd yet she was innocent wtf!?!? This makes me so angry
20 likes@starjumper you too? My sister does have kids, but isn't nearly as calm and collected as Casey. My sister would be freaking out and screaming, wondering how dare anybody would accuse her of lying or hurting her own daughter.
7 likesWe should remember that Casey is no different from other people who abort children.
15 likesAudrey Hilton Oh my sister would get like that once she was drunk or on drugs which was most nights. It’s resulted in her getting arrested at one point for assaulting me when I just turned 17 (nothing happened, she just got worse, I’m 18 now). She also bit my moms finger which resulted in an injury that needed stitches. There’s tons of other stuff she’s done as well, but won’t get into too many details. Somehow my grandparents just won’t kick her out. When she’s sober (which is hardly) or only high on weed, she is horribly narcissistic and very manipulative towards my grandparents. She will also still pick fights and only does things that benefit her.
7 likesabc C She wasn’t found innocent. She was found not guilty. That’s how the legal system operates. Just because there wasn’t enough evidence to convict her that doesn’t mean there is such a thing as an innocent ruling. Personally I think she’s guilty. But the state did not meet its burden of proof.
11 likesGabriel Garza that’s not true at all. After giving birth and nurturing a Child for a number of years and then you yourself forcibly murdering her is not the same as a procedure done by a doctor before the child ever breathes air outside the womb. I believe your comment and opinion is due to your religious beliefs.
53 likes@Funmakers Just because you cant see a human being doesn't mean he doesn't exist. Blessed are those who believe without seeing.
4 likesAnd her best friend was crying and saying she would die if anything happened to Caylee, and Casey is all nonchalant about it, like it's no big thing.
18 likes@abc C not guilty is not innocent, or that's what they say.
0 likesGabriel Garza hey kid, nobody is saying unborn children are like the tooth fairy. We understand they exist. But there is 100,000% a difference between a sociopathic murderer and a person who believes they are making the right decision in a very tough spot. People like you can only have compassion when it’s convenient, and refuse to acknowledge the terrible, critically difficult choice it is to have an abortion
33 likes@Gabriel Garza Drug addictions, and thought addictions are closely related on a neurological level. Some people are more beholden to the ancient part of the brain (Meso Limbic System/emotional) rather than someone that reasons using the modern part (Frontal Cortex/rational).
1 like"The second system, known as the mesolimbic system, has its cell bodies in the ventral tegmental area, which is medial to the substantia nigra. It projects to several parts of the limbic system, including the nucleus accumbens and ventral portions of the striatum, amygdala, and hippocampus, as well as prefrontal cortex. This system has been linked to reward-related behavior (Berridge and Kringelbach, 2015). Dopamine levels in the nucleus accumbens increase in response to both natural reinforcers (such as food, drink, and sex) and drugs of abuse (such as amphetamine and cocaine). Additionally, in humans, activity in this region increases in response to more abstract rewards, such as money."
Marie T. Banich/Rebecca J. Compton, Cognitive Neuroscience, Section: Subsystems, pp. 2/3
"Dopamine, in fact, is critical in association learning and the reward system of the brain that Skinner discovered through his process of operant conditioning, whereby any behavior that is reinforced tends to be repeated. A reinforcement is, by definition, something that is rewarding to the organism; that is to say, it makes the brain direct the body to repeat the behavior in order to get another positive reward. ...The connection between dopamine and belief was established by experiments conducted by Peter Brugger and his colleague Christine Mohr at the University of Bristol in England. Exploring the neurochemistry of superstition, magical thinking, and belief in the paranormal, Brugger and Mohr found that people with high levels of dopamine are more likely to find significance in coincidences and pick out meaning and patterns where there are none."
Michael Shermer, The Believing Brain, Section: 6 The Believing Neuron pp. 8-10/29
"Genetic and behavioral factors influencing religiously motivated behavior appear related to dopamine metabolism and signaling. Inclination toward religious behavior and motivation has been associated with a polymorphism on the dopamine receptor gene DRD4 (Comings, Gonzales, Saucier, Johnson, & MacMurray, 2000;Sasaki et al., 2013). Acquired disorders of dopamine physiology also show links to religious behaviors."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5478470/
"Religious and spiritual experiences activate the brain reward circuits in much the same way as love, sex, gambling, drugs and music, report researchers at the University of Utah School of Medicine."
https://unews.utah.edu/this-is-your-brain-on-god/
"Dopamine, adrenaline, and noradrenaline are neurotransmitters that belong to the catecholamine family. Dopamine is produced in the substantia nigra and ventral tegmental regions of the brain, and dopamine alterations are related to schizophrenia (1, 2). ...The “original dopamine hypothesis” states that hyperactive dopamine transmission results in schizophrenic symptoms."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032934/
"Dopamine In schizophrenia (SCZ), there is evidence that very high levels of dopamine in the limbic system play a major role in emergence of hallucinations and delusions. Antipsychotic medications, which block central dopamine activity, alleviate the hallucinations of psychosis. Drugs with strong dopaminergic effect, such as L-dopa, methylphenidate, bromocriptine, pramipexole and piribedil, may induce hallucinations. D-amphetamine, a direct dopamine agonist, may also induce psychosis and hallucinations."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2996210/
"Here, we show that administration of a drug that enhances dopaminergic function (dihydroxy-L-phenylalanine; L-DOPA) increases an optimism bias. This effect is due to L-DOPA impairing the ability to update belief in response to undesirable information about the future."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3424419/
"Tibetan mystics have long practiced a method to create sentient beings (Tulpas) from the power of concentrated thought."
Note: These (Tulpas) are not sentient beings, but a manifestation of the subconscious mind through neural plasticity via neurochemical imbalancing inducing meditation. In other words it's having a dream state while awake, and interacting with a character that's made up of one's own preformed thoughts (building blocks of ideas/concepts that are below conscious awareness) which gives the illusion of sentience. In simpler words it's self induced schizophrenia due to stresses (psychological/physical/environmental) where neurochemical traffic gets rerouted causing hallucinations to any of the five senses, also including involuntary movement, and distorted speech (glossolalia).
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_ca/article/exmqzz/tulpamancy-internet-subculture-892
Imagine the euphoria experienced by the average person for believing they won a million dollars on a scratch off ticket (it could be a joke ticket yet as long as they believe). Now imagine someone having the same sensations, but being convinced it's a paranormal contact for believing John 3:16.
We evolved to seek pleasure (eating/reproduction), and avoid getting killed (tiger in the grass/competing neighbor/harsh enviroment). With our increased cognitive abilities we made up other reasons for pleasure, and survival beyond basic necessity. The Dopamine Reward System over time bridges gaps in pathways in order to form habits in order to repeat behaviors, and or thoughts. The often cited testimony of getting off an addiction thanks to a God is just a placebo replacement due to the power of the mind (an AA participant I heard of chose to worship the radiator in his room instead of an higher power, and became sober).
Ancient people did not know the neurosciences. Philo of Alexandria thought that joy came from Heaven by way of God's chief archangel the "Divine Word/Right Reason (Logos)".
ON DREAMS, THAT THEY ARE GOD-SENT Book 2
"XXXVII ...And who can pour over the happy soul which proffers its own reason as the most sacred cup, the holy goblets of true joy, except the cup-bearer of God, the master of the feast, the Word ?"
ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION, III
"LX ... the soul very often, when it is delighted, is yet unable to explain what it is that has delighted it; but it is taught by the hierophant and prophet Moses, who tells it, “This is the bread, the food which God has given for the Soul, (Exo. 16:15)” explaining that God has brought it, his own Word and his own Reason; for this bread which he has given us to eat is this Word of his ."
The High Priest's headdress had a crown made of a plant known for it's hallucinogenic properties at which a golden plate covered the forehead. On said golden plate was inscribed sacred characters for the name of God.
Josephus: THE ANTIQUITIES OF THE JEWS, BOOK 3, CHAPTER 7 (172-178), CONCERNING THE GARMENTS ...OF THE HIGH PRIEST
"6. The high priest's mitre was the same that we described before, and was wrought like that of all the other priests; above which there was another, with swathes of blue embroidered, and round it was a golden crown polished, of three rows, one above another; out of which arose a cup of gold, which resembled the herb which we call Saccharus: but those Greeks that are skilful in botany call it Hyoscyamus. ...Now the fruit is preserved by this coat of the calyx, which fruit is like the seed of the herb Sideritis: it sends out a flower that may seem to resemble that of poppy. Of this was a crown made, as far as from the hinder part of the head to each of the temples; but this Ephielis, for so this calyx may be called, did not cover the forehead, but it was covered with a golden plate, which had inscribed upon it the name of God in sacred characters. And such were the ornaments of the high priest."
Hyoscyamus Niger
" ...was historically used..., as well as for its psychoactive properties in "magic brews". These psychoactive properties include visual hallucinations and a sensation of flight. ...The plant, recorded as Herba Apollinaris, was used to yield oracles by the priestesses of Apollo. "
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoscyamus_niger
Scrambled neurochemistry is insight to another realm for some people.
The Holy Dopamine Ghost (Thoughts are addictive)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQATeZAnm87BaJjBtM1vMIq_gHRmBq3ie
Scripture is designed to keep people in the thought addiction, and shut out from the group those that question.
"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction." (Prov. 1:7)
"In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." "but when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed." (2 Cor. 4:4, 3:16)
"As for the Disbelievers, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom." (Quran 2.006-.007)
"Fools say in their hearts, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is no one who does good." (Psa. 14:1)
"but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Dopamine Ghost can never have forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin" (Mark 3:29)
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@Gabriel Garza There is a difference between an embryo, a fetus, and a birthed baby. You cannot compare a life that includes physiological independence, consciousness, and emotional bonds to other lives to a unbreathing, unthinking, unfeeling, physiologically codependent mass of cells that has barely any brain signal, if at all. Abortion comes in different forms, including a pill taken before 10 weeks after conception. Please do more research into fetal development, biology, the physical complications of pregnancy/birth, the financial burden of pregnancy and parenthood, the emotional and mental trauma of pregnancy/birth/adoption.... Please have more empathy for women and do not compare taking an abortion pill to a sociopath taking a conscious, feeling, loved and wanted life.
15 likesGabriel Garza True. But it sure doesn’t mean he does. You believe without good evidence. But to each his own.
0 likes@Oh I see Thank you, can't believe how long this thread had been going on before someone with a working argument arrived.
2 likes@onmy computer2020gal Are you talking about this lady Macey who killed her unwanted child? Once you start killing out of convenience it becomes hard to draw the line. What is off limits becomes a controversy no one can agree on." Is it ok after so many months?,,, Post-partum, After a few days,, or weeks and months??? China maakes dishes out of babies. Thats where your logic leads to.
1 likeWhat I got from these comments is that as long as person cant think, feel or breathe (people in coma, disabled people etc), they dont count as a human and can be killed. Because they are inconvinience. Bcoz of bad financial situation. Bcoz mom wants to keep partying. How is that different than Casie? Or you people seriously think that there are no psychopathic women who use abortion as contraception? I know a girl who had 4 abortions (each time the dad was different) and she couldnt care less about it. She LAUGHED while talking how they crashed the head of this innocent creature.
2 likesJust a clump of cells...lets see when scientists find "clump of cells" on another planets and call it LIFE. The hypocricy.
And what about the prejudice that ONLY religious people dont support abortion? In what kind of bubble you live in? I know so many people like myself who are not a part of any religion. And as a matter of a fact, science also agreed that life begins at conception, when a sperm fertilizes the egg. So if a person is in coma and you know he will wake up in 9 months or less, you have a right to kill him just bcoz he is not thinking or feeling now?
And even though I am not religious, I am very introspective and I always found the story about Barnabus and Jesus so interesting as archetypes of the world we live in. One was a murderer and they released him from jail, the other was a healer and they convicted him. Perfect reflection of society and of this case where a sociopath Casie walked away free. Unfortunately, humans are broken and most of them have no moral compass.
@John Martin taught of that theory as well. Yet the evidence mentioned in the video points to her.
0 likesIt makes me nauseous to know this woman is still running around free. She's a monster.
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Hot lady privilege is a real thing.
47 likesSuicideVan she is definitely not hot in any way
110 likes@SuicideVan Yeah that doesn't apply in her case. Not even remotely close.
37 likes@SuicideVan Oh please... You cannot be serious.
14 likesSuicideVan she’s not hot,it was just white female privilege.
62 likesSuicideVan 🤔🥴🤪🧐🤓.
2 likesMore than her priviledge, the prosecution did a really shitty job.
15 likesSame
0 likes@The Angry Italian Scotty Piffin1 Hell doesn't exist, she's not getting what she deserves.
34 likesShe said she sleeps well at night too. Barf.
16 likes@SuicideVan no it's not
1 like@Important man Commenting 🙄
2 likes@The Angry Italian Scotty Piffin1 Right.. cause hell isn't a imaginary place.. she got off with any punishment what so ever.. i'm so glad i'm not an American, on so many levels..
5 likesWhat people don't get is the prosecution failed to fully prove their case. The justice system acted the way it should. They couldn't prove Beyond a reasonable doubt that she was the one that killed Caylee and that she orchestrated everything. Plus with that scumbag Baez muddling the waters, it was a nightmare from the beginning. I believe in karma.
2 likes@Axel Wiese same
0 likes@Important man Commenting on point..if she were any other color she'd be in prison for life..
8 likes@The Angry Italian Scotty Piffin1 well, hell isn't real so...instead of saying she will get what she deserves, stop using the paranormal to solve what is wrong with society and get out and protest it. She will only get what she deserves if we stand up against the unjustified
11 likes@SuicideVan Are u the kinda guy who writes an visits jailed murdeous hot girls
2 likes@Erykah F she is a complete smoke show, you're kidding yourself to think she isn't because you know she's a terrible person. She lied and manipulated her way through life using her looks.
0 likes@SuicideVan please don't insult straight men and gay women by calling her hot.
8 likesit makes me nauseous there are alot of people who are exaktly like this woman... And they might do the same
2 likes@Donna Kawana that's not really a thing for men. As a man I like sex and engaging in a relationship with a woman I can't have sex with doesn't appeal to me...or other men for that matter.
1 likeNow women on the other hand, they love to write to prisoners. They get the thrill of engaging with a dangerous man, and the ego boost to think they are so special they can change a violent criminal. It's the Beauty and the Beast archetypal story.
SuicideVan she’s not though. She looks sick and sleep deprived and like she’s never seen the sun. Hot would be like... eh... Jennifer Lopez or something.
6 likes@pinkpugginz yes it is. In fact by nearly every metric available from lifetime earnings average to education and professional achievement physically attractive men and women outperform their less attractive counterparts at a more consistent basis than by other factors like race, gender, sexuality, etc.
0 likes@The Angry Italian Scotty Piffin1 hell is too good for her
1 likeAre You serious? Is she walking around? Is she free? Wtf?
0 likesHow? I'm now very confused.
@The Angry Italian Scotty Piffin1 you sure bout dat?
0 likesMario Fox Yeah. She got away with it. She’s waking around free.
0 likes@Donna Kawana took less than an hour to make this about race. congrats
2 likes@Important man Commenting She's just a great manipulator and could lie her way out of most situations. I don't think being white had a lot to do with it. That would only make a difference if the baby was of a different race. Being a female also not sure. 1 most cases of infanticide are done by women, specifically mothers. 2 men do it in a different way and for different reasons. If the father had done it, it would most likely involve a violent death followed by possible dismemberment to hide the body. Men are also more likely to brag about getting away with murder.
1 like@Ashquatch Boy, are you fragile atheists ever hypersensitive.
0 likes@SuicideVan men do write jailed women an the more dark the more freaks write...
0 likes@Mario Fox yes luv very free an wants more kids !!
0 likes@Donna Kawana nah, it's not really a thing. Of course in all of the world there's going to be a few, but it's not really a thing in the way it is of women writting to prisoners.
0 likes@Susan Pinney yeah read the comments...this is my reply. But its a fact. If u find u have different facts. It's probably because u never been in court or county jail, or prison. If u have then u kno how it goes. If not take a seat... Because the only reason her case was even on the news is the look an family dynamic. Pretty white family dark unthinkable tragedy...! Do u think justice is just...?
0 likes@Raphael C please do me a favor look up missing children at same time see what u find...what families get TV time an help. Do u really think no lil black, or Hispanic kids went missing an unfound at same time..look it up!! I am just saying not factual... her dad was a retired cop bet that didn't matter either?
0 likes@Donna Kawana We are talking about different things. I'm not putting in question the systemic racism in the American judicial system or in the media, but in this case in particular I don't think she got away because of "white female privilege."
1 likeSuicideVan you have got to be absolutely blind if you think she’s a “smoke show”
2 likesForm Emptiness yes
0 likes@SuicideVan hot?Nonono sir
0 likesShe's the kid who bullies you and her parents insist that it was your fault because their daughter "would never!"
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Sounds like my in laws with their baby golden boy. His mind games, abuse, lies. They're all my fault, of course. Never build up a man and try to be his rock that he needs. Just worry about yourself.
12 likesMorgan Templeton - I sounded like she was a bully to her parents as well.
1 like@Maria C blame the parents. Willing to bet you're gen z
0 likes@lo l LMAO I'm wheezing
0 likes@tetraphobia off-topic but oikawa with glasses ruined me
0 likes@♡SARAH♡ Sounds like you need a divorce
1 likeI'm from Sweden and I never heard about this case until now. It's unbelievable how she's not found guilty, it shocked me. This has to be one of the biggest failures. I bet her lawyers stocks went up after this.
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Ngl that lawyer blew my mind
9 likesHe is as slimy as they come.
0 likes@Nick3an Everyone is allowed the right to an attorney, and if the attorney does a shitty job it can be counted as a "mistrial" where they do whole other trial. On top of that, if he purposefully failed her, he could have his license suspended. He had to do his job, and unfortunately, he was just a damn good lawyer.
1 likeNGL the defendant smashed it
0 likesThe way she speaks to her parents in the first call from jail really speaks volumes of her character and her spoiled rotten up bringing
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Idk if its even her upbringing. I think she's a textbook example of sociopath. She doesn't FEEL, she doesn't have emotions like most all people. Around the 48 mark he talks about how shes fake around EVERYONE, even family and friends. She's learned how people act and she simply reenacts those emotions like a robot. that is what sociopaths do.
115 likesHer parents are enablers.
22 likes@Jennifer S. Honestly I think it’s that and her upbringing. JCS made it clear that her parents are enablers. She’s probably never gotten help for her sociopathic behavior which is probably why she felt she could get away with anything just by lying her way through it.
17 likes@Jennifer S. It's probably both. Her parents are enablers who just let her get away with anything and everything. Once someone who's a sociopath learns they can walk all over their parents, there's almost nothing that can be done to help them by that point.
5 likesPathetic what confuses me most is that her father was a homicide detective and yet he helped mold this monster which evolved into a murderer. Crazy.
5 likesLove the name and profile pic lol
And her "Best Friend" who seemed way more concerned about her daughter.
4 likesSo her continuously lying to the police was nothing. They knew she lied, why lie if you did nothing wrong 😒. If the kid died naturally or by drowning why not report it. LIKE WTF!!!!!!!! I'm utterly disgusted and disturbed.
1 likeBeing an attorney, having to defend such a person by any means without being prejudiced and emotionally invested, is both amazing and disturbing. But in this case, I'm definitely more disturbed.
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These attorneys would defend a physical devil if it means a nice getaway to the bahamas
28 likesWas same disturbing as knowing she was raped by her father or it was alright and in your eyes she deserves that?
1 like@krzszt what? no one said rape is EVER justified. period.
24 likeskrzszt No, I never said she deserved that or it’s alright
14 likesi’ve seen it explained as they have to put forward the best defence possible so that the defendant, if/when they are charged guilty, cannot claim there was a mistrial
8 likesso even if they think their defendant is pure evil, they have motivation to make an excellent defence so that the sentence sticks
7 likes@Cyanide_Lollipop Without defense lawyers the justice system would be even more broken than it is now. It's the job of the defense to challenge all evidence and force the prosecution to prove guilt beyond all doubt. It makes me sick Casey got away with this just as much as anyone, but don't get twisted, defense lawyers are for the greater good.
12 likes@Need More Input Yeah, makes sense. I guess I just wish some of them weren't so good at their jobs.
3 likes@Need More Input Exactly. If we only defended people we thought were innocent then almost any plaintiff would be at a significant advantage and win. It's a damned if you do damned if you don't kind of job.
1 like@Cyanide_Lollipop I study Jurisprudence. There are laws you are smacked in the face right away. The most important one -. A lawyer may not be identified with his client. Like here already someone said - his task is to challenge all evidence and force the prosecution to prove guilt beyond all doubt. The man is in the right place. It's disgusting she got off, but he destroyed The State.
7 likes@Cinty Wee It's pretty cool that I learned something today from you and other commenters. It all makes sense now that I understand, so thanks. :)
1 likeI still really wish she'd lost. She's a raging dumpster fire.
My cousins a public defender in Maryland and my aunts an appellate lawyer in Chicago and I couldn’t be more proud of them doing the best they can for govt pay instead of making good money privately because they truly work their cases as hard as they can. It’s for the greater good....even tho Casey should rot in prison.
4 likesApparently a private investigator who was hired by Baez to find Caylee's body before the police, as Baez knew she was murdered by Anthony and had to cover tracks, had told police that Anthony gave Baez "sexual favours" as she couldn't afford the fees.
0 likesThe fact that her parents keep calling her "sweetie", "gorgeous" and tell her that they love her after she literally laughs when she sees them is so upsetting. No wonder she could keep lying to them all these years and get away with it.
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Exactly. Ultimately parents raise and affect their child's qualities and attitudes. Other external influences ovbiously have an effect, but especially in youth parents have a huge impact. It's not their fault, unless they're born with some biological predisposition. She is a symptom of how she was nurtured, and unfortunately Caylee was a victim of it.
40 likesSomething as small as letting children get away with deviant actions can make them self obsessed compulsive liars in the future, so they get away with even more deviant actions to the point where it's criminal. Because they have the confidence for it from prior experience.
You cant blame the parents for what she did, wtf is wrong with you. She's obviously a sociopath!
18 likes@Charlie Bags can or can't? you can absolutely blame the parents.
49 likes@Charlie Bags They threw her a fake graduation party when she dropped out of school, lying and deception are obviously ok with this family. You think that has nothing to do with her decision making?
41 likesParents have done much worse, and still they do not become murderers. Yes they may have contributed but overall they should not be blamed.. should every parent be blamed for they're kids actions. I don't think so
4 likesYES but you cannot blame the parents for this horrific act, end of!
2 likes@Charlie Bags Reality and reason doesn't seem like something you are very familiar with, you could learn a lot from this video. It isn't as cut and dry as you would like it to be, and that's the reality of this terrible situation and is probably partly why the jury came to the decision they did. I don't think any of us are blaming the parents for what she did, you are creating a "strawman" and so be it.
14 likes@Charlie Bags Did you even try to understand what this comment thread is trying to say?
7 likes@Charlie Bags She has zero respect to her parents who kept being nice to her all the years instead of putting her in her place.
9 likesThey even rewarded her with a party for lying to them and not graduating.
I'm not blaming them directly for the killing of the daughter but they are part of the bigger picture for sure.
@ amen
1 likeI don’t know if you noticed but they were doing that to build trust in that moment, hence why the parents keep asking her about her daughter. If she felt like her parents were on her side it would of been easier for her to admit something
7 likesHer parents were nice - but if you look at the skills she has, she is using something you are not taught or grown into. She is an INTJ or INTP and figured out reflection. If you look and listen she just reflects back the emotions of the person talking to her.
3 likesHow can a person get upset with themselves, they can't and it's like chasing your own tail. You have to talk only about actions with such people if you try engage in communication you're just talking to the mirror.
1 likeNotice
1 likeCalls from Jail - Angry/Emotion - she has Angry/Emotion
Gets to jail call - Parents smiling laughing / she is smiling and laughing
She gets to interrogation - She is just repeating "yes I also agree with X". "Yes X is very something". "Oh yes I know".
She's read one of the communication books or is the type of person who could have wrote one without reading them.
It's the poor version of the theranos lady who had a baby instead of a fake medical company.
0 likesShe is probably at burning man partying with those people (or would be if it wasn't in VR or world of warcraft or whatever that is this year lol)
0 likesHer Mom was tryna get the truth she didn’t wanna upset her. She was tryna finesse her outta information.
5 likes True, that’s what happen when parents do not punish their children when needed. They, sadly, grow up into adults lacking the sense of responsibility and authority because they got away with everything every time. When they do good things, please praise and gratify them but when they do something wrong they need to know there are consequences and they need to take the responsibility of it. After the phone call and the video, I could feel how entitled she thinks she is. It’s very sad.
2 likesWeirdly, Casey’s behavior reminded me of Amber Heard’s 😱
At the end of day, That’s thier daughter. Regardless of what she did (not saying it’s okay or excusable) that is a mother,and father and thier baby. Whether you like it or not not all parents have the guts to abandon they’re kids, just cause of what they did. To you she’s a cold blooded killer, to the media she’s a cold blooded killer but to her parents that’s her daughter. And I’m sure The parents are feeling very guilty because they know they have a huge role in why their daughters the way that she is too. Please don’t misunderstand me I’m not saying what she did was OK, I’m not supporting what she did, I’m not defending her in anyway shape or form. I just think that people are seeing this from such a broad point of view and not an open one, be mad at Casey.. be mad at the woman who killed her daughter but don’t be mad at the parents Who are just being parents
2 likesI think the parents just tried to make her spill the beans.
1 likeIt's not her parents' fault for being bad parents. It's her grandparents' fault for raising her parents to be bad parents.
1 likeI mean, they are their parents still, and when you don't know what can happen, trying different things can help.
1 like@Benjamin Suntrup And its not the grandparents fault its the great-grandparents fault for raising the grandparents etc etc??
4 likesIt is caseys fault, for not taking responsibility to be a good person and parent no matter what. Her parents aren't innocent, but they aren't to blame either.
I think they were trying to coax information out of her. Being insanely nice to someone suspected of committing a crime to gain information from them is an interrogation tactic used in the highest of levels of criminal justice. I’m sure they were briefed before talking to her, although we all know that during the case people began to suspect the grandparents. I’m unsure of how I feel. I think they’d protect their kid even if it meant she killed their grand baby. I don’t think they had anything to do with the direct death of Caylee but wanted to protect their daughter. It’s a normal parental instinct although I’d be so disgusted I think I’d do anything to help them convict her, but I’m also not a mother.
0 likesIt's as if they were afraid of her. Weird.
0 likes@Ryan R That's what sociopaths do in order to seem 'normal'. It has nothing to do with Myers-Briggs.
0 likes@Paige Casey Anthony's ruling as not guilty for any charge related to the death of her daughter brought no disagreement from her family. This shows they never wanted her to be held accountable; they continued to ignorantly shy away from the possibility of their daughter being responsible and accepted the falsehood that the broken jury provided. The parents felt little guilt. I do not think they are any better than their child. Just equally disturbing in a different manner.
1 like@Charlie Bags no body is born a psychopath... they raised (made) one so yes blame the parents
1 like@Charlie Bags human psychology and how they act is complex. You cant just judge things based on a fragment of it. The development of one's psychology is a mix of everything in one's life.
1 likeHere, the parents affect the pathological liar trait. The biggest problem that drags the whole problem is that said trait. If only her parents didnt spoil her daughter, this case wouldnt be dragged on or even better didnt happen.
I bet you have those mindset where one simply cant blame their parents just because they are a parents.
Any people who tried their best can fail. And a failure is a failure. A mistake is a mistake. Nothing can justify it. But you can fix it with the follow up, which is not the case on this tragedy.
@Charlie Bags also, there is a study that proves disfunctional socio/psychopath is related to their nurture. Even on youtube, these are easily found. I think there was even a Tedtalk where the professor is a psychopath, which he realized it far later in the future. He doesnt know about morals (bad or good), but he does know how to be functional and how to maintain a harmony.
1 likeMy point is, the underlying issue can be reduced to minimum effect with proper nurture.
Thats what i thought exactly.
0 likesThey enabled it.
0 likesyou should look at all the casey videos on YARtv on youtube they show how the case was faked!
0 likesHer parents are malignant narcissists
0 likesThey created it at the end of the day
0 likesImagine if Chris Watts and Casey get together.. scary
0 likesHer best friend Christina loved Caylee more than Casey did. That’s devastating. Caylee was failed not only by Casey but by the justice system. This case boils my blood like no other. It’s heartbreaking.
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Dude I know! I honestly hate watching anything about this case because it gets me so angry. I like to remind myself that she'll get justice eventually because there is a God
10 likesI agree. She was a total lying, manipulating, entitled, self-centered woman who killed her own child because she didn’t want the responsibility of being a mother.
11 likesI felt that phone call. To hear family and friends in absolute fear of her disappearance is quite something, you could tell Casey was not interested.
13 likesThe ease with which the web of lies tripped off her tongue, is so disgusting. As if you'd be likely to know the name of a daycare nanny's step father in passing. She's truly heinous. How many times does she say "honestly" as a preface to barefaced cold lies.
3 likes@The Absolute Madman how could her dad ever look at her again, knowing that she's not only a cold-blooded child killer, but she accused him of sexual abuse, which I don't believe for a second happened. Those grandparents would have taken custody of that beautiful little girl even knowing that their daughter is a spoilt, selfish narcissist, she could have done a bunk to have her fun, and left Caylee with them and I bet they'd have never reported her to the authorities. But no, she decided murder was best to dispose of her little baby girl. I'm normally not big on retribution but this woman deserves a painful life and a horrible lonely death. She's evil incarnate.
4 likes@EweChoober
2 likesI honestly think the lawyer would have told the parents this was the only route that could save their daughter's life. The dad didn't even flinch when the lawyer told the jury. They covered Casey's butt all of her life (the fake graduation for example) so I guess they would have done anything to save her.
@Conor M you're right, the mother is clearly delusional. The dad was a homicide detective though, he smelt death in the car, he knows she's guilty as sin, but sadly he was willing to protect her, even if branding himself a child molester. They enabled her and fed her delusions to some extent, they're paying the price now.
5 likes@EweChoober I tried to google present news about them but most of the websites are blocked in Europe due to GDRP.
0 likes@Conor M I'd imagine they still live in Florida but keep a low profile, the last interview I saw of them did not paint them in a very positive light, for supporting her.
2 likesCaylee is one of many a murdered child who did not get justice. I keep their names on my heart.
1 likeThey ignored the fact that the car smelled of dead body by her mother's and father's own account, or that her friend in the jail call directly suspected something fishy and asked "where is caylee, caysee?", or the constant lies. at least she should be convicted for lying to police in an ongoing investigation, or child neglect because her mom had to report the missing child after 31 days while caysee was partying.
402 likesUSA Justice system is so flawed, omg.
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Yeah, she should have gotten charged with something and at least 25 years in jail. Especially for leaving caylee at a swamp to decompose and not letting anyone know about it. She really proved how stupid those people are and she took advantage of it.
21 likesikr! here's a quote from abc article posted in 2011:
40 likes"Forensic evidence in Anthony's car will be pivotal in the murder trial, experts have said. The car tested positive for chloroform and human decomposition and a strand of Caylee's hair was found in the car's trunk." How do you let her go after finding that?
More like Florida State justice its not a national crime
3 likesexactly what i was thinking
0 likesThis literally makes me so mad that she got away with it. They just disregarded every piece of overwhelming evidence they had. Her daughter's remains were found with duct tape over her mouth and nose and her car smelled like death and they are just going say "eh, she's innocent"........ What in the actual hell?? She clearly was murdered and they just dismiss the case. Unbelievable. I hope she rots in jail someday..
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And these people are allowed to vote.
101 likesTotally agree and that's what baffles me. The body was found with duct tape over her - a clear case of suffocation and yet the defence attorney said she drowned in a pool? What in the ever loving fuck is in these juror's heads?
94 likes@mcgarnacle21 wrong question.
21 likesAsk about their pockets.
And they completely disregarded her internet searches before the death of the daughter. Like how does that flip over anyone’s head? It’s clear that she killed her. Did they check the kid’s lungs to see if she drowned? There would have a been signs of drowning in an autopsy. I wonder how that even came forth as a credible defense.
65 likesShe won't escape God's judgment, that's for sure.
45 likesI don't like to e that guy but think about if it was a man that did that
13 likesMaybe the problem for the prosecutor was that they found her body in a swamp, so I think (I may well be mistaken here) duct tape or not, it would be hard to prove any water in her lungs were definitely not from the pool? And with her pool story, she could also claim she or her father moved the body to the swamp in a panic, using the car, trying to make it look as though she had been taken. It doesn't cover it in this video, but apparently she alleged that her father found Casey in the pool and hatched the plan himself in order to protect Caylee from child neglect.
6 likesThe Google searches however.... Wtf?? 🤦♀️
simple: she is white, and she might have a rich family.
18 likes@Christopher Wilkins There is no such judgement. If God exists he wouldnt allow that heinous murder in the first place.
25 likesThe difference between you and I is that my anger was figurative.
3 likesDon't ask me what that means, per se, because I don't know.
I'm just making a dumb joke while simultaneously calling you out for using literally in a very annoying way.
(I am now going to go into more detail about this for no good reason)
I'm not against using it for emphasis, as a sort of metaphor, but you really were mad, so just say you were made. Literally is used as an enhancer when what you're saying isn't actually literal, such as saying you were literally blown away by a performance of some kind.
I dunno why I'm writing this, it's 12:00 am, and honestly, I think I'm just in the mood to write about something, no matter what it is, I really don't mean to be some annoying grammar cop*.
Edit: grammar Nazi
@Viys I never would blame someone who doesn´t exist.
16 likes@Sven S. Justice only exists if a God exists.
6 likes@Viys "Justice" is just a human narrative. Unfortunately is there much more to say, but YT is not the right place for it.
13 likes@Sven S. “Justice is just a human narrative”... ok lol, we get it, you think you’re smarter than everyone else.
5 likes@CallMe_DaddyKong I know, right? :Ρ
3 likes@Alex D. well this comment makes no sense since her family were against her
9 likes@Christopher Wilkins 🥴
0 likes@Christopher Wilkins God doesn't exist Chris so there will be no judgement. She got away with it, that's the end of it.
3 likesCourts don't judge people to be innocent. Ever. The verdicts are either "Guilty" or "Not Guilty". The latter pretty much only means "guilt cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt". I'm pretty sure each of the jurors personally believed she was more likely than not guilty, but simply weren't entirely convinced. The defense made good use of that.
5 likesIt surprised me that the details about her search history weren't mentioned in the trial. I looked it up and apparently this was recovered like 4 years later (investigators only checked internet exporer, she used firefox - seems like a huge failure on their part) so it had no bearing on the trial.
@Man.I.Literally.Failed! but karma also stems from a religious belief 😉
1 like@Viys when did Sven suggest that they think they’re smarter than ‘everyone else’ or you even? They could then say the same for you. You’re both just having a disagreement on a matter. That claim sure came out of nowhere.
0 likesI’m sure she did it but realistically the prosecution didn’t have evidence directly linking her to the killing that was the problem they needed that confession
1 like@Sven S.
2 likesGod allows those things but that doesn’t mean God approves of killing someone who is innocent and that killing is good. God even gives a commandment “THOU SHALT NOT KILL”
@Bisdak Pinoy If god allows these things that means one of three things:
2 likes1) He doesn't care to stop them (in which case he isn't all-loving)
2) He doesn't have the power to stop them (in which case he isn't omnipotent)
3) He doesn't exist
Personally I believe the third.
What mental gymnastic do you use to believe in god and not believe either the 1st or 2nd proposition?
@Sceafa some parents actually love their kids irrespective of how bad they are.
0 likes@Alex D. Her parents and family were against her, you can even her them say as much in the phone calls.
0 likesyou don't have to be a criminal profiler to know that a mother who calls the police 31 days after her child's disappearance is the main suspect.
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I just want to say.... her mother called the police. She was never going to call the police.
19 likes@Krispywho wow... OK! is she still free?
1 like@cristiandemirel1918 yes...
3 likesHow is this woman free?
1 likeDuring the initial 911 call Casey said to the emergency operator that she in fact “spoke to Caylee today “ and that all was alright. Nobody ever talks of that statement.
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Yes, I caught that too.
25 likesI think they tried to explain that with the “Casey was molested and grew up lying so now it’s all she knows” not that that’s any excuse
46 likesOh god, that too...
4 likes@Free Assange like Trump
8 likes@Franz Pattison You are the entire reason Casey was set free
6 likes@Pinii ESP wow! And I didn't even get called into the trial! now that's what I call power
6 likes@Franz Pattison Its true. Instead of focusing on the objective, you start talking about something totally different.
7 likesHe is right, you are one example why Casey was set free.
@vIPR well with fantastic leaps of causal "logic" like that I think you're the reason why Hitler rose to power
8 likes@Miley Molly idk if that part was taken into consideration by the jury. If her lawyer didn’t have any proof it should not be taken into consideration at all. Whole story sounds made up
1 likeCan't fucking believe that i just watched someone crying of happiness because they got away with the murder of their own child. It's just beyond me.
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@Vera wiin if you’re not fit then why get pregnant...
34 likes@Jay this argument has been refuted so many times already on discussions about the topic bruh
175 likesEven the cheerleader who burned and buried her newborn child got 1 year. Yes you heard me right. 1 year - because this is how women get sentenced.
90 likesShe is evil. Plain evil.
48 likes@Vera wiin that was a general question
1 like@markly its pretty simple just use protection or just stop fuckin boom no more accidents
22 likes@Jay protection isn’t always effective
75 likes@cシ whats the percentage
6 likes@Jay I think it depends what kind of protection u use I’m not sure abt the numbers, but in school we are taught that the only birth control that’s 100% affective is abstinence
40 likes@Jay that’s not something that’s completely controllable though. Even if you do use protection or whatever, you can still get pregnant.
30 likes@Coronavirus yeah but the chances are low are they not?
7 likes@Jay a lot of pregnancies aren’t planned. You shouldn’t have to dedicate your life to a kid just because you got pregnant. It’s fine if you want raise the kid, but it’s also fine if you don’t.
82 likesWhy are you so sure about this... I am assuming there was an actual confession of the mother that the court and jury saw. Don't know why this was not shown in this video, but could be because it looks genuine and very different to the way she looks when she was lying. Evidence is not presented in this video, don't know why.
3 likes**All i am saying, without following or hearing about this case at all, and solely from this video and the evidence (or lack of) shown in it, I had my doubts about her being a murderer. Reasonable doubt.
You get 2 stories, partly or mostly fabricated on both sides to make a case...and when there isn't enough evidence out there, the advantage is with the defence obviously. this is why a good, thorough and clean police investigation is so important.
But yes, most likely she did it
@Sherry Delavergne no
9 likes@Sherry Delavergneyou can do whatever you want with your body and so can others
54 likesWhy do most of these comments have nothing to do with the original comment? To respond to the original comment, I can’t believe it either. As a parent I couldn’t follow this case when it happened because it was so horrifying. I’m a parent of one, I know I can’t handle more than one physically due to chronic pain, so I got an IUD 2 months after I had a c-section. If I got my pain under control, I’d like to adopt rather than get pregnant because so many children need loving homes not just foster care.
16 likes*we all have different views on abortion, abstinence, etc, but please let us all agree what this monster did was horrific and stop attacking each other.
@H.P. Hatecraft abortion is murder under gods eye, may the lord have Mercy on their souls
14 likes@DW4DE i know you don't understand and it's propably hard to comprehend for you, but not everybody is religious. if this is your choice, it's fine. But stop forcing your religion on other people, this is beyond being arrogant. Why do people have to accept the religions of others but religious people think they don't have to accept that some people don't believe in god?
82 likes@Ron Rontall until a certain week these cells don't look like people. As well, this doesn't mean shit. an embryo doesn't feel anything until about the 26th week of pregnancy since they literally didn't develop a functioning nervous system before. the vast majority of abortions happens WAAAAY before that. This is the only thing that matters at all. It's not like women do that for fun, ya know?
64 likes@Sherry Delavergne Except, not at all. Completely different.
6 likes@H.P. Hatecraft why is a bacterial cell considered life on Mars but an embryo is not considered life here on Earth?
35 likes@Jay protection isn’t always effective, plus there’s a large porcentaje of women who get raped,
16 likes@Jay ah yes, because everyone who gets pregnant always chose to, there are absolutely no exceptions, and there's no possible way someone could want to get pregnant and then decide that they don't actually want to give birth, not at all
26 likes@Whitney Fry that's a shitty comparison and doesn't make sense. unborn embryos are a collection of cells until many weeks into pregnancy. They don't feel or think, they don't have a consciousness
48 likes@H.P. Hatecraft Well spoken sir.
14 likes@Coronavirus boi what
0 likesI can't believe people are here spouting off about abortion, just fucking stop. This video is about the murder of a child. One that was living, and actually felt joy, sadness, and betrayal. This isn't about a fucking agenda, this is about a heartbreaking murder.
29 likesI think that people that don’t use prevention shouldn’t be allowed abortions (apart from cases such as young age or rape), and that those who actively used birth control should be allowed abortions.
0 likesShes cried tears of joy bc she didnt get convicted and is free... I doubt the thought of her daughter was really ever in her mind. If she killed her, Caylee was just an after thought. Makes it all the more disgusting
7 likes@Whitney Fry wow that is super dumb. Bacteria is a complete, independent life form. Just because it is a singe cell it doesn’t make it comparable to a complex, many-called biological entity. It is a single-celled organism. We are not. A foetus is not a complete or viable being. A single bacterium is. I typed that really slowly for you.
14 likes@Sherry Delavergne not at all the same thing. If you think murdering a living breathing out of womb child who's been living on their own for a year is the same as an unborn unable to live alone without help as the same thing then you have something seriously wrong with you.
7 likes@Soon Mee Kim I didn't have kids due to a painful condition. I'm glad you had one but I totally understand not wanting to get pregnant again. I hope you find relief
2 likes@Riggy its just women thats all
1 like@Sherry Delavergne Grow up
3 likes@Doomer25 it really isn't, especially in the U.S but have fun being wrong
2 likes@Sherry Delavergne How absolutely vile and disgusting. Comparing aborting an embryo that doesn't think or even feel pain with a psychopath who killed 3-year-old? Really? That doesn't make any sense.
12 likes@Jay obviously you never have met the type of woman who gets knocked up by just looking at a D. Some woman are unbelievably fertile and bc isn’t 100%
0 likes@V's Tongue it would be costly and a pain in the ass to investigate whether or not BC was or was not used tho
0 likes@rainierday she was 3, as sad as it is she didn’t comprehend the pain she was in in all likelyhood, i’m not sure if that’s better or worse though tbh.
0 likesIt’s sickening.
0 likes@Jay condoms are 97% affective. It says it on the box but I’m guessing you’ve never used one so you don’t know.
2 likes@Ron Rontall okay so my question is if I was raped and impregnated. Am I still wrong for wanting to get rid of the baby?
0 likes@Nocturnal Joe she wasn't burned that was a false medical report. watch the full trial and don't spread fake facts. the girl went through a lot.
1 like@Eve Russo You have serious problems.
0 likes@Ron Rontall It doesn't matter how they look and no, majority of abortions take place at stage where fetus doesn't look like a human at all.
2 likes@DW4DE Too bad there is no evidence that either gods or souls exist.
1 like@Whitney Fry It is considered life, just not a life worthy of putting a mother through all the trauma.
5 likes@H.P. Hatecraft Just stop having unprotected sex.
3 likes@H.P. Hatecraft never
1 like@Sherry Delavergne wow that is low
0 likes@Soon Mee Kim thank you. This is such a tragedy in itself and all everybody else can do is SQUIRREL and bring up a bunch of incendiary but irrelevant stuff just to get into a pissing contest online. This story is sad but the obnoxiousness is much sadder.
1 like@Sherry Delavergne abortion is not a murder
1 like@Kim Hougland some people arguing over something on the internet is sadder to you than the murder of a child? yeah, talking about obnoxiousness lol
4 likes@cシ then just don’t have sex. Straight up
0 likes@Dylan Fultz 🤡
5 likesYou obviously aren’t too bright are ya woman? Lol
0 likes@Sherry Delavergne it’s not a child yet it. Is a clump of cell’s
1 like@Sherry Delavergne this all happened because she wanted an abortion but her parents wouldn't let her. This is what happens when you force women to carry and bring up children they don't want.
3 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
0 likesWas her body found though
0 likes@rainierday ALL TRUE. Plus the only reason a mother would want to abort is OBVIOUSLY because they are not capable to taking care of them, and it will stop things like this case from happening to innocent children.
0 likesjvsv, Yes that is correct however those who choose death for their unborn offspring they need to finance the abortion. We who have a conscious choose not to be a contributor to the slaughter of a baby. 👼
2 likesBecca, It’s not a useless comment. Just because you and many others have a guilty conscious for the slaughter of your own offspring 👼 doesn’t make the fact useless. 🤔
2 likesWtf 🤬 she was clearly the murder of her child and just walked away! So sad as actually inocente people get arrested and guilty people walk free! Just hope she has nightmares every night and will get what she deserves one day! Sad 😢
1 likeWow, the amount of psycopaths there are in this replay sections is incredible. The stupid arguments in favor of abortion are so incredibly moronic:
5 likes"The fetus is not a human being, it is a clump of cells"
First of all, every human being is a clump of cells. Second, don't try to hide behind science when you don't know anything about it. Modern science concluded that when a sperm and an egg unite (syngamy) the nuclei of both are fused, forming a new human being with its own DNA, different from its parents, which begins its natural development. If anyone here rejects our scientific knowledge, it is you.
"The woman should have the right to decide about her own body"
Of course! The problem is that the unborn child is not part of the mother's body for a number of reasons that medical science has already revealed:
1 - The unborn child already has a unique and unrepeatable DNA.
2 - The unborn child has a different heart rate from her mother.
3 - He or she may even have a blood factor of their own.
4 - He or she generates his own organs such as the placenta, which is not believed anymore to be generated by the maternal body.
"The arguments against abortion are religious"
It is Modern Science that has allowed us to understand that what the woman is gestating is in fact a human being, not religion.
Of course, the ideal thing for abortionists would be to discuss these issues with a priest, not a biologist.
Today, modern science is the one that turns its back on abortion.
"We're not all religious, so don't make us do something we don't believe in."
Which is a fallacy, considering that due to the existence of something called "Public Health", religious people are forced to financially participate in abortion. Who is it then who forces whom?
"If a woman is forced to bear an unwanted child, she will end up torturing him and possibly killing him."
I'll let you yourselves realize the stupidity of that comment.
"You don't care about the mother or the baby after it is born"
Fake. Those of us who are against abortion ask for public policies that:
1 - Dismantle clandestine clinics.
2 - Create decent conditions for women so that abortion is not even considered as an option.
3 - Support Motherhood and Fatherhood.
4 - Reduce family violence.
5 - That they provide prenatal care.
6 - That they develop better conditions regarding adoption.
Among other possible policies to support women.
For example we have Chile. A country that, without legalizing abortion, substantially reduced maternal mortality. In 2008, it became the second country in the Americas with the lowest maternal mortality rate, even higher than that of the United States. While in Uruguay, maternal mortality has increased since the legalization of abortion.
Oh, true. I remind you women, once conception occurs, you are already Mothers. With abortion, the only thing you are deciding is whether to be the mother of a living child or to be the mother of a dead child.
@H.P. Hatecraft it's still a living being organism. Maybe you aren't causing any pain to it. But denying its chance to be born and live a life is vicious. I agree in certain situations or instances like if someone is r*ped, he/she/they/them shall be allowed to conduct abortion. But it's stupid to do it cause you were careless or drink, or suddenly changed your mind.
1 like@Shi La the heart beat doesn't mean shit, sorry dude. please find some better arguments.
5 likes@rainierday so would being adopted
0 likes@H.P. Hatecraft right !
0 likesYou are just jealous, admit it
0 likesI feel sorry for those who have abortions. 9 times out of 10, they are repressing or otherwise struggling to process the trauma, which is compounded by the cultural acceptance of the practice — as though it were just "some clump of cells." Even if you aren't religious, surely one can recognize that abortion is contrary to our deepest biological impulses: to reproduce. I'm not here to pass judgment on those who have undergone it (though it sounds like it lol); there are cases both moral and medical where it can appear to be the right choice. But if you're conflicted about your past or present decisions, I would ask that you try to sit with and understand the source of that inner conflict. Whether right or wrong, whether God or no, abortion is no light matter.
6 likes@Sherry Delavergne that's an entirely different situation, a fetus that can't feel pain or comprehend that it exists, and hasn't taken a breath, c a n 't even take a breath is entirely different than a 3 year old child.
0 likes@Jay the chances are low, but it's literally never impossible, and even if you didn't adequately use protection that doesn't mean you should be forced to have a baby. Also abstinence isn't even a choice.
0 likes@Coronavirus huh? so what is your suggestion if someone gets pregnant
0 likes@Michael Frazia depends on their situation.
0 likes@Riggy like oj Simpson? I seem to remember crowds of blacks cheering in the streets when he got away with murdering 2 people...and there was more evidence in that case
1 likeThis case should be reopened!!!
0 likes@Ron Rontall go look at the actual science, if you guys care about something like that, then you would care MORE about bugs, they literally are more conscious, and they can actually feel pain.
1 like@Ron Rontall also, bud, the photos that went around on the internet. Was a 7 month MISCARRIAGE. Abortions are not legal after the 20th week.
1 like@Whitney Fry then how come you aren’t fighting for the millions of bugs that are killed per day, according to your logic. If a heartbeat determines life, then you would care about that. Also, unlike the clump of cells, the bugs can feel pressure....
0 likes@H.P. Hatecraft bro you have only been speaking facts this WHOLE TIME DAMN
2 likes@baronessa HAHA, bro I laughed out loud at this. Heather, I love you for that
0 likes@Sherry Delavergne Agreed with the original comment and you !
0 likes@Sherry Delavergne please stop.
0 likes@Riggy
1 likeIts not cause of racism albeit the trend does exist.
Its cause the Judge and Prosecutor sees white women from a perspective of "What if this was my daughter?"
Can happen with minorities and men too if there is the same race Judge and/or opposite sex Judge, albeit far less likely.
Men tend to get the rough end of the stick either way.
@Ron Rontall Do you remember what being a fetus was like? Can you explain how important those times were for you? No? Exactly, because a fetus is not sentient enough to comprehend where it is/what it is. Most times, abortions would save babies from the pain they would suffer in life. Don’t act like living on Earth is the best thing ever, shit things happen to good people all the time.
0 likesY’all these replies are very foolish. We’re discussing the death of a child and now y’all are talking about whether or not it’s ok to abort one. Stop this petty arguing, it’s been going on for three months. Act like adults, accept each other’s opinions, and mourn for the actual dead child instead of messing with each other.
1 like@Riggy might be true but the white child never got any justice
0 likes@H.P. Hatecraft those "cells" form human life. Invalid argument.
0 likes@Sherry Delavergne getting a clump of cells vacuumed out of you is not the same as murdering a 3 year old child. In fact, if she had an abortion there would be no murder.
0 likesShe got away with it?
0 likes@H.P. Hatecraft Conception is the beginning of human development, not birth.
2 likesTherefore, a zygote is human life just like a 3 year old child is human life. So, the difference between a zygote and a 3 year old child is age, not kind.
Ask yourself, at what point does human life begin?
You seem to argue a child in the womb is "numb" and therefore not human life yet. What is it then, just cells? Precisely when in their development do humans go from "a clump of numb cells" to human life?
I'm not arguing the morality or immorality of abortion. I'm saying abortion ends the life of a human being. That's why it is such a polarized and emotionally charged subject.
If you can't even acknowledge that a baby in the womb is a human life, "just shut up forever on this topic, thank you".
@Riggy Marxist drivel
0 likes@vincent roy that’s too much logic for hatecraft
0 likes@Nihal Chowdhury you seem too invested on a embryo instead of being worried about the full fledge adult human that carries it. Something bad bad is going in your head.
0 likes@HeadshotTatertot93 Yeah. Some people are still in the time of their life where they’re learning that sex isn’t a necessity. Some people just don’t care.
0 likes@Jay yes, start with protection. Women can only give birth every 9 months, meanwhile men can get women pregnant every single day. Start with the problem and have all men get a vasectomy. It's completely reversible and safe
3 likes@H.P. Hatecraft lmao u believe in the science of masks but don’t believe abortion is murder 😂. Your life must be real sad
0 likesTears of pure happiness and joy. Such a beutiful sight to see. A heartwarming moment.
0 likes@Sherry Delavergne okay buddy
0 likes@Piterixos when an abortion is performed they have to account for every body part because it can be disastrous if some part is left inside of a woman. So yeah...babies don't look like sludge even in the earliest stages.
0 likes@Belle Époque Beautifully said. It's insane when people call a fetus a 'bundle of cells' that is so fucking callous and creates one hell of a slippery slope.
0 likes@V's Tongue i---have you never heard of medical abortions??
0 likesShe must feel invincible at this point, can talk her way out of literally everything.
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Shit like this makes you wish there were a punisher irl
79 likesShe probably watching this and reading our comments right now
39 likes@Leader of Communist China dexter irl, where are you? i still cannot believe what i watched, wtf? this person is actually living on earth, walking free 13 years after the killing of her own daughter
9 likes@Leader of Communist China no, just a better legal system.
0 likesHer father disowned her for good.
15 likes@madcowlive @🤡
1 likeSpeech 100
0 likes@Auner Check out recent news on her lol.
0 likes@madcowlive Aren’t you a little optimistic.
0 likes@Dave Smith
1 likeBro. Did you read up on her recently too?
I’m surprised they are even taking her accusations seriously. Considering she’s a pathological liar.
@Manny my response is to wishing there was a real life punisher.
0 likesNo, I don't like the idea of some person going around performing extrajudicial killings.
Yes, I wish for a better legal system.
Glad I can clarify that for you. As your response about optimism makes very lil sense.
More like her lawyer can talk her way out of anything, last I checked she talked her way right into handcuffs
1 like“She was NOT an event coordinator. She worked at the stand that sold photos after people rode the Incredible Hulk Ride” DAMNNN 😭
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Why would she even lie about that. Cops can find that out in 10 minutes if they want xD
145 likesOf the whole video THATS what made the most impact on you?
44 likes@covorca I thought it was a great comeback.
54 likesSuch an ambitious girl XD
10 likeslmao
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
2 likesDid this lie make stand out the most to you in this video????
2 likesjay s. Charles Manson was an Event Coordinator ...
8 likes@Lawrence Compulsive liars will lie about the silliest things that are irrelevant
51 likes@KingCosworth So true, they can't seem to help themselves about lying.
5 likesKostas Rubtsov What he tried to say is this i think. Who follows this case have encountered in many documentaries that Casey was working at universal. It was never clear what she worked there. But somehow most of us assumed that she was working in a better position at universal. Now the info is out she was just handing out the pictures after the hulk ride. And that is somehow perplexing. Hence his surprise i think.
7 likesKostas Rubtsov If all comments were about the same thing, what would be the point of providing insight at all?
26 likesShe coordinated who got what picture depending oh what seat they were in duh!
3 likes@covorca"THATS what made the most impact on you?"
23 likesActually, it's a noteworthy moment The fact that she needlessly lies about
the most insignificant details, even when she has to know the cops will catch the lie. Total fake.
@Eric Goltz a HERO??????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I just... have no words!
8 likesEric Goltz My comment had literally nothing to do with that, what are you replying to me for? Did you even read my comment?
11 likes@Kostas Rubtsov yes because its so easy to prove that's false and she didn't need to lie about that
0 likesShe was a master of the Custodial Arts
2 likesBurn
0 likesEric Goltz I’m not saying it was aliens, but...
5 likes@Lawrence
0 likesBecause that's what pathological liars do.
Carly Rae he’s being sarcastic
2 likes@Kostas Rubtsov Sometimes you dont wait until a video finishes before you make a comment on something that stood out to you
0 likes@Eric Goltz lmfao good one lol
1 liketigweldNY And I don’t blame them. He’s terrible at trolling.
8 likes@F. Moussa no she told the cops that she was an event coordinator. They found out she just handed out pictures.
0 likesHow is she not still in prison for fucking with police like that. Oh right she doesn't get to have any consequences
0 likes@Who Dat Ninja her parents should be put in the insane asylum for throwing her a fake graduation party. I mean how did that party even turn out?🤔
0 likes@Lawrence She probably told everybody that lie to make her job seem more important. Her mom was in the room with her at the time so she probably wanted to keep that lie going, and I don't think anyone would have anticipated the police following up on their job title when it isn't related to the case.
0 likesThen again I'm trying to get into somebody else's head and the odds that I'm wrong are very high.
Savage
0 likesLmao why was that such a fuckin sick burn. Like anyone else who gives out photos after the hulk ride now must feel a lot lower about their job status.
0 likes@Scott Davis Well, he did coordinate that thing at Sharon Tate's that one time.
0 likes@F. Moussa exactly & very well said 👏
0 likesLMAOOOO
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likes@Kaja Giddings 😭😭😭😭
0 likesi don’t think she murdered her . i think she was negligent. she probably was all wrapped up in tom or whatever and found her dead , I mean look at her parents . she had multiple people who would take cayley
0 likesParents: “We are hoping we find her soon....”
1366 likesCasey: “I tried coleslaw today”
Me: 😳🤯🤢🤢🤮🤮 she is disgusting.
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Honestly I think the parents conversation is as bizarre as Casey's. "Hello gorgeous"??? How about ...tell me where the hell my grand daughter is!? They are a bunch of odd people but she got away with killing that baby.
81 likes@Kimberly Marino dude he's obviously Just trying to act like he is in her side so he can extract as much information from her, but he did it poorly
58 likesI agree with the parents were told to get info out of her but the nicknames and do you miss his hugs is kinda creepy.
24 likes@Frogstarr I cannot imagine how that man felt when those words were said out loud. I honestly do not think he ever molested her. Clearly the Dad knew what Biaz was going to say as he did not react at all. That is also craxy. Even if he knew what is going to be said and even if he is a twisted bastard and did those things hearing those words out loud would have made most men react. I don't think there is one piece of this case that is not stomach turning. IF it's true Casey wanted to abort the baby and her family forced her to have Caylee...the guilt they must have! Something else I always thought was very odd is Caylee is a mix of Casey and Lee which is her brothers name. I was almost certain they were going to find her brother was the father. But apparently that remains a mystery as you cannot trust anything she says. She is the perfect example if "if her lips are moving she is lying". My ex husband was a full blown narcissist and once his facade started to crack I realized how he lied about EVERY. THING. Big things and tiny things that truly made no difference. It was just nonstop lying just for the sake of lying. If he told me the sky was blue I would have to check it. That is how she is and it just fascinated me and still does. What makes someone do that? It's wild
20 likes@Kimberly Marino I agree. Her lawyer (with her permission) lied to get sympathy. It worked.
13 likesI'm going to hell. I laughed.
4 likes@Kimberly Marinoofc he'd say that, they had so many years of fun together
0 likesJust sums it up
0 likesYea who likes Coleslaw
0 likesyou should look at all the casey videos on YARtv on youtube they show how the case was faked!
0 likes@Master Bellamont She was already in custody in that phone call!
0 likes@Sydnarella I say the mother is the least creepy since she's the one that showed any real interest in finding the baby.
2 likesDan Everton That was a disgusting lie to get her off! There was no proof whatsoever about that. Jose Baez was grasping at straws. He’s good at what he does but he’s a snake!
1 like@Keri is so very I agree.
0 likesKimberly Marino it’s their daughter.. her being guilty isn’t something they even wanted to fathom
2 likesCasey: googles how to suffocate someone and get away with it
4053 likesJury: that sign can’t stop me because I can’t read!
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not only that, but the child died with duck tape and shit, like, what the fuck happened? I think this video should be a bit longer so that we could understand more about what made the jury find her not guilty
184 likesThe jury didn't get to see her internet searches, that's what I've heard.
45 likesHow can they argue she died in a pool or whatever a month early if 1) she did those searches; 2) after that she goes to party, gets a tattoo, etc... . Doesn't align.
52 likesSome incriminating evidence was withheld, due to various legal reasons, and there was a general minimum of hard viable evidence. Everything suggest she probably did do it, but the burden of proof needed is higher then "probably". The big problem in the US justice system is the opposite, poor/minorities being convicted over a massive lack of evidence and reasonable doubt.
42 likes@Viktor Yeah, the prosecution only looked at her searches on Internet Explorer but not at her other browser searches. Her searches for suffocation were found after the fact by independent researchers. Last Podcast on the Left has a very detailed series about this case. The jury is not so much at fault as the prosectution. The prosecution absolutely butchered this case and Casey Anthony's defense team was, while slimy as hell, genius.
50 likes@Danny - I can't blame the defense,
13 likesTHEY HAD NO IDEA they were going to say "my daddy raped me" because they had no evidence to present,
So there was nothing to SHOW prosecution!
Prosecution had every reason to think it was open/shut
AN easy case.
How could they have known Casey would accuse her own father of rape and murder?
@T T it's true that they had absolutely no way of preparing for something like that, but they didnt do their due diligence to actually prove their case fully. They thought it was such an obvious case that they didnt put in all the work. There was enough evidence, much of which was found independently after all this went down, to put her away even with all the crazy shit her defense pulled. I would highly recommend everybody look at/listen to some in depth analysis of the entire trial. They simply did not think ahead and did not cover their bases.
12 likes@Vutka Papi lawyer said she drowned in the pool, like wtf would the duct tape be there for lmao?
18 likes@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing? I was thinking the exact same thing.
2 likesDid she fr get away with this
0 likesThis is why, as an European, I am truly afraid of the vicious barbarism of common law becoming popular here.
5 likesA jury shouldn’t exist.
@THE_LIKE_BUTTON yes
0 likes@TheWhiskyDelta That’s not true. Minority has nothing to do with it. Having money for a good lawyer or being a popular celebrity like OJ helps.
1 like@Vaeldr Nero Keep ur non jury trials. I love our system even if it fails occasionally. No system is perfect.
0 likes@Xman C i specifically said poor/minorities
1 like@TheWhiskyDelta false but ok
0 likesXman C No system is perfect but yours sucks. Common law is the best for trade/commercial matters.
0 likesBut when it comes to criminal justice it’s terrible. Why should people with no law education make the call ? This is why you set guilty people free and innocent people to jail so often.
Would you go to a doctor who didn’t study medicine? No. Then why would you want someone who didn’t do law do decide legal cases.
The duct tape was also put on her mouth a few times and I’m just wondering how poor Caylee had missing bones including her wrist,knee cap etc in a matter of months
0 likes@Low Bo Automatically if he said that it shows that how she was found was premeditated, which could of given her a harsher sentence I still say judge had a hard on for her and the defense failed BIG time they couldn’t establish enough physical evidence and other crap
2 likes@Vaeldr Nero Why would hv elites want to judge me. Sorry I’d rather not.
1 liketo be accurate she googled the word suffocation not how to suffocate someone and get away with it
0 likes@Pedro Rocha 1. anyone could have done those searches on her computer, 2. the timeline lines up perfectly with the girl's death in the pool. In fact, in FL accidental drowning in a family pool is the #1 cause of death of kids. I personally believe she accidentally drowned, her Granddad covered it up with his many years of exposure to crime scenes. I do not believe Casey had anything to do with that. The Grandma was left out of the death and coverup.
0 likes@Xman C the idea that just because people who study the law are elites is dumb. Juries can be a way of getting the public’s opinion on a case but that is all it is. They have no prior training and do not fully comprehend how the law functions. In some countries, they act as an advisor to the judge but a few random people who most likely have no experience with the law should not have the power to dictate the verdict of a case. As shown in the video, people can be easily swayed by persuasive techniques and manipulation of thoughts and emotions. Maybe if juries only consisted of individuals who have atleast a minimum understanding in law or else it is just luck if the jury thinks whether a person is guilty or not.
0 likes@Danny - can no one re do a case after new evidence has been found? Do you know how that works?
0 likes@SLMZ Educated people can also be manipulated to do dumb and evil things.?depending on their ideology or ideological make up. Yes I agree that there r too many dumb people, but unfortunately most people dumb and smart can be easily persuaded to do evil things. The German people r very intelligent people, but in the last century they were persuaded to do some very evil things. I think the problem today with most systems is the moral breakdown of society. Btw just because u hv a degree doesn’t mk u smart. There’s lots of dumb educated people.
0 likes@YKhenessey A person cannot be tried twice for the same crime once they have been aquitted, even with new evidence. Also, new evidence wasn't found by law enforcement. It was found by independent investigators, meaning none of it is official evidence anyway.
1 like@Matthew Tompkins “foolproof” suffocation
2 likesIf I ever do anything wrong I’m calling that lawyer he’s got a get out of jail free card on him
1 like@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing? Yeah, unfortunately, there is no evidence of some "universal justice."
0 likes@Danny - thats pretty dumb honestly
0 likes@YKhenessey yeah, there are definitely major problems with it. It can be a good thing in some cases, but in cases like this it is definitely unfortunate. If you want to know more about it and why it's a thing, it's called Double Jeopardy.
0 likes@Xman C You seriously don't think racial bias has a role in charging and sentencing?
0 likesREALLY?
You think that's true?
@T T all I hv to say is OJ Simpson. It’s about how much money u hv for a good lawyer.
1 like"She was not an event coordinator. She stood in a kiosk, and sold photos to people who recently took The Incredible Hulk ride"......bro your tone on how you said that had me dying
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I know the way he said it and what he said I busted out laughing 😆 what a looser behind a kiosk at the incredible Hulk ride lmfao
35 likes@John Doe so having any kind of work makes a person a looser
33 likesNo wonder the world's so messed up with judgemental people like you bullying people over a job that earns money
@Mark Mitchell this woman killed her child and got away with it. People are upset, and will attack anything about her. Has nothing to do w her work, has to do with the monster who stood behind that kiosk.
45 likes@Mark Mitchell no. it’s because she murdered her daughter. let us make fun of a horrible person
31 likes@terra andrew you guys want to blame someone? blame the prosecutors cause they were not able to prove 100% she did it
2 likesLMAOO RIGHT THAT KILLED ME
0 likesThat ride is fun as hell and usually has a very short wait time or no wait time at all.
1 likei actually went to universal two years ago, we went on every ride really, we're canadian so we try to soak up as much america as we could. we actually went on that hulk ride after a small photoshoot with the hulk statue in front. we also picked up the photos.... so i guess I may have talked to her.
0 likes@Danni Hambleton She hadn't worked there since 2006
6 likesGo back to Reddit. Not every comment had to be a joke for likes. This isn’t funny.
2 likesWhat
0 likes@Iaqh Wait, yeah, but what, uh...what does that have to do with anything?? Lol. Or are we just sharing interesting pieces of trivia?
0 likes@Mark Mitchell are you that loser selling ride photos at Universal? Hell yeah, support the corporate machine!
0 likes@Iaqh Ahhh, I never heard this one! Interesting. Where did you read this?
0 likes@Mark Mitchell Mark trying to start a fight on YT and failing 😂😂😂
3 likesThat sounded like an arrested development episode
0 likes@Danni Hambleton “soak up as much American as we could” you guys don’t have theme parks or roller coasters in Canada ¿
0 likes@Mark Mitchell its because she lied about her profession, it makes it funny and ironic to point that out. Not really bullying
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesAgreed,is horrible but that little spark of humour seemed the only positive aspect of this video
0 likesSo her parents throw a fake graduation party for her and no one thinks they actually taught her how to lie.
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Exactly. How to lie, cover your tracks, and ultimately get away with things.
99 likes💯
6 likesAre you guys saying that her parents are to blame for her killing her own child?
13 likes@Sean Yager No. I’m saying her parents taught her how to lie.
99 likesWhat is the saying??? "Spoil the child rotten." Literally
28 likesshe’s a pathological liar. there’s no teaching that really...
17 likes@Seth Rogen Well, if you grow up in an environment where it's ok to lie about anything and issues are solved by lying to others, you will become a pathological liar.
59 likes@Sean Yager mostly
0 likesWasn't her dad a cop
10 likesShe clearly was a pathological liar BEFORE they ever threw her the faux graduation party.. Why do you think they needed to FAKE the graduation in the first place? Because she had originally been LYING about her attendance at school..
10 likesAnd I've met pathological liars who's parents didn't spoil them.
I don't think its fair to pin this on the parents.. I mean obviously they hold a very small share of the blame because they did raise her... But anything beyond that is ridiculous imo.
@Sean Yager So, they have a pathological liar child and when she lies about her attendance, they decide to cover it all up for her because they already know she's a pathological liar. That sounds like very bad parenting to me. If you don't want your children to become or continue to be liars, don't lie for them, unless you think it's ok to do so.
22 likesThey enable her her poor mother believed her baby I'm tight right now
1 likeyeah bad parenting, can’t let kids learn that they can get away with any of this shit
1 like@Shelly Herrera 100%
0 likes🤣🤣
0 likes🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
0 likes@Sean Yager it's very simple in this specific situation. these are the facts. she lied to her parents about going to class, about finishing high school. she had no intention of ever telling them; the only way they found out was because the school finally decided to call them. and what did the parents do? they rewarded her lies with a graduation party. they thought they were protecting her and "saving face," but what they really did was positively reinforce bad behavior. i'm not necessarily condemning the parents as horrible monsters, but that's just bad parenting. because if you truly believe that that doesn't teach a developing mind that lies will more than likely get you rewards, then that's honestly insane to me. she was a liar before, and all this did was serve to reinforce that she could keep using lies to get her way.
8 likes@Dae Hill Parents usually play a major role in the upbringing of sociopaths. That's the whole point.
2 likesThey couldn't even just lie that she graduated, but they said she graduated with honors.
4 likesA retired cop hes the one who spent the body decomposition
0 likes@Sue D'Alessandro Those parents were to blame too for Caylee’s death-they never questioned Casey before the cops? Lol, my daughter has been missing for 31 days and the timer starts all over again because she talked to her for about “a moment “. She’s such a disgusting 🤮 person. I hope her karma comes to her soon.
1 likeHmm.. I thought the part where they showed a big graphic crossing out NATURE and underlining NUTURE and then listing a bunch of relevant examples sort of touched on that idea. It's interesting to consider how significant a roll this dynamic played but somehow I don't think it's definitive...
0 likesThere was definitely a dysfunctional dynamic in the home where the appearance of things was more important than the truth. The mom in particular seemed to be in denial. Casey was nine months pregnant (visibly so) and her parents were able to deny reality and believe/say she wasn't. Other people around were asking about her pregnancy and noticing it and she and her parents were in denial of the obvious reality. And even after her mom called 911 about Caylee and said there was the smell of a dead body in the car, she backed off and later said there wasn't and changed her story, staying in denial. Even after the trial when Casey's dad had eventually become convinced Casey was guilty, her mom denied it and refused to accept that her daughter was involved. (I saw an interview after the trial where there was great tension between the couple over it, and the dad wouldn't outright say the words but clearly thought Casey had killed Caylee but the mom was still saying some unknown nanny or other person must have done it.)
0 likesEven though, there were some odd dynamics in the home (particularly with Casey and her mom), it is still NOT the parents' fault. Casey was an adult and fully responsible for her actions. I will never understand why she did it...her parents were basically raising Caylee for her...she could have just run off and started a new life, pretending she never had a child if she wanted.
@Dream A He did no such thing. Her defense team sacrificed him and slaughtered his reputation.
0 likes@Sarah Bon Yes he was. It's why he says when he opened up her trunk it smelled like death. Ask any cop, it's a smell like no other and one you don't forget.
0 likesSOMEHOW, she's free walking the streets. Yet there are people in jail for having a gram of thc
22615 likesEdit. Never thought it would get this reaction. So the edit is, she's walking around with a new man, while there are people in jail for missing some child support, or in jail because liars like her put them there. She planned and murdered her child.
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Makes you realise where the top dogs priorities are 🤔
1356 likesYeah well when people get caught with a gram of thc the prosecution doesn't push to intent to distribute with is what they did in this case going for first degree murder, idk if It was bc the public outcry wanted it or whatever but they still shouldn't have, basically what I'm trying to say is that this case isn't the same as your example
111 likesEdit: autocorrect
A gram of thc? Boy that's enough to make you hight for the rest of your life
226 likes@Cam wtf dude 😑 go back to school
104 likes@Karlomat If you smoke through the head of a needle and it's laced with fentanyl lmao.
148 likesCam lots of words and little substance
81 likesThe difficulty of that whole can of worms is that while a portion of people in jail are there because of a drug conviction, not all of them are there ONLY because of that. Sometimes prosecutors stick with a safer way to lock up people with much worse crimes by going with just the drug possession. Still an issue, but there’s more underlying things to consider.
62 likesThe war on drug is stupid...
79 likesI'm scaredd
1 like@Cam I see what you are saying about the public pushing for stricter prosecution which thus fail to convince in court. 1st degree does seem right here to me but I can't say what the prosecution thought of the evidence and why it was decided. Also drug possession charges have such harsh penalties( legislated ) that everyone pleas down anyway, that's how the courts stay working at all.
10 likesizoom war on consciousness
6 likes@Karlomat if you smoke twice a year maybe
19 likes@Roche fort6 🙄 Did you find Reefer Madness on Netflix?
9 likesJust like nk in the chris watts caes
6 likesIts race
18 likesFacts.
0 likesmandatory minimums are wack
4 likesIt's a women's world, better get used to it if you hadn't realized it yet.
20 likesI got caught with a gram of weed and the officer poured it out of the bag and stomped the shit out of it, I picked it up after he left, I was like, thank you officer for grinding my weed for me. True story!
19 likesYes. 👍
0 likesDude I get what you’re saying, but no one is jail for just having a gram of weed on their persons.
4 likes@Karlomat lmao
2 likesYou absolutely should go to jail for having a thc on you. Those 2 things are completely unrelated.
7 likesEnd the war on drugs.
14 likesDon’t worry. We all float down here.....they’ll float too
3 likesNope
0 likesThat's terrible
0 likesI seriously don’t understand it.
5 likesSolid Hyrax XD you kids in this comment section are so cringy lol
4 likes@Roche fort6 Bullcrap.
1 like@Justin lol
2 likes@Dragonskizi good point
2 likes@hiding in the comments ;)
1 likeSpoiler comment
1 like@heitrusan I mean the way she tried to say her dad molested her and that's why she lied so much somehow meant she was innocent... that was some cold shit
15 likesThat sentence actually made me sad.....
6 likesUgh. I hate that this is actually true.
It’s called white privilege
8 likesAt first I assumed your comment was pre corona. Bro there are people in jail for keeping their business open.
6 likesA lot more people are going to smoke marijuana than kill one another, so the prison industrial complex, being profit driven, pushes lawmakers to keep their facilities stuffed with our citizens.
10 likesshows that being smart can get you out of almost anything, unfortunatly for some matters
2 likesCilantro _ thank you lmfaooo I read his comment and I was like wow he’s never smoked dabs or anything before 😂
5 likes@witch blade nope. She wasn't convicted of anything, she's free to this day.
1 likeThis is the way our justice system built..
5 likesimagine if she werent white
6 likesThat's the real crime.
1 like@izoom I'd go a little further and call it a war on Blacks
3 likes@Victor Racioppi im gonna have to ask you to google before you speak lol
2 likes@Elizabeth Vasquez wtf are you taking about? I literally have no clue.
0 likes@jorge rodi yikes! Are you serious? Ok comrade. .
0 likesDo have the name of someone in jail for a gram? Ofcoarse not. Quit believing what the lib fake media says. And stop making things up. But otherwise, it absolutely makes no sense.
0 likesHow does a jury let her go free.
I think her parents were involved.
0 likes@Justin wow, your a real outlaw. You must be very proud of yourself.
0 likes@John Dims cringy, really, cringy!
2 likesLeDeskripshun I don’t blame her. Even being a “psychopath,“ isn’t illegal. The CEOs of many very successful corporations are.
1 likeThank Jose Baez for his incredible bullshit closing arguement
1 like@Cilantro _ well said. spoken from experiance
0 likesShit is crazy
0 likesYes, this case was sickening and heartbreaking.
1 like@Victor Racioppi you not wrong about that lol
1 likeHoly shit talk about perspective
1 likeA gram of weed is a good time. A gram of THC...? You will never be sober again.
4 likes@William Davis ah yes, news is "fake" and "lib" if it doesnt fit my narrative. Based and redpilled my man.
6 likes@William Davis oh god. A conservative who doesnt know what based means. I'll take my sarcasm elsewhere old man. You wouldn't get it
6 likesEven if they have a medical card don’t forget about that.
0 likestrump released 3000 nonviolent drug offenders
6 likesLouder for the ones in the back 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
1 like@jorge rodi You obviously don't know anything about the American Constitution or legal system. That you think the U.S. Department of Justice had anything to do with this is an indication of your absolute ignorance of this system, so thinking you know any of the facts of the case at any depth would be ridiculous. At least the jurors know something about what they were judging. You don't have a clue about anything you're commenting on.
0 likesWhite people I guess
2 likesIt’s called white privilege
2 likes@jorge rodi Someone needs a nap.
2 likes@Karlomat that's basically hash and it's enough for a week
1 like@JASON VOORHEES the "war on drugs" cant exist without pot being a schedule 1 narcotic which of coarse to the feds pot will always be. The reason other drug use is like .00001% of the people. I think that anything that vice does is a criminal against the people and make anyone subject to the bullshit including incarceration. Lie # 2 "I'm here from the government, I'm here to help you".
2 likesDoing THC is bad mmkay
1 likeEvery flower has a right to be blooming so stay human....
1 likeThats america babyyyyy yall woke yet???
2 likes@Karlomat a gram is literally a joint or two
3 likes@hiding in the comments A jury let her off. They decided there wasn't enough direct evidence. It's not the top dogs. She can't be retried for the same crime.
0 likes@Kenzie Hansen we love are sociopaths,put them in high places. She'll probably be the next president or at least have her own talk show.
1 likeizoom war on the poor
0 likesjust be a woman
0 likesWell the evidence wasn't enough so she didn't do it. Don't involve emotions in law.
0 likes@Jfjdjshdi she probably did do it tho
0 likes@Jfjdjshdi you saw some kind of "law" here?
0 likes@Roche fort6 THC murders children? Alcohol and Tobacco kill millions of people a year, and who knows how many children. No one seems to have care that you can buy alcohol or Tobacco on every street corner. Check the statistics. The number of people that die from Alcohol and Tobacco is incredible. The main psychoactive component of cannabis is tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), and it is a much safer drug than either Tobacco or Alcohol. Literally millions die every year from Tobacco and Alcohol.
4 likes+LeDeskripshun And yet possession of any amount of thc (Tetrahydrocannabinol) would and do lead to enormous unsolved low income hood violence. Rather have the dope bois in the pen then a little party girl.
0 likesCilantro _ why? Try smoke a gram of pure thc bro see how u feel😂
0 likesDemons
0 likesk that is quite true
0 likes@Chef C Lmso! Great remark, it does fit.
0 likesThat's the dystopian America
2 likes@Chef C Замечательное замечание, подходит.
0 likes+LeDeskripshun И все же владение любым количеством thc (тетрагидроканнабинола) приведет и действительно приведет к огромному нераскрытому насилию над низкими доходами. Лучше имейте наркотик в ручке, чем маленькую тусовщицу.
1 likeWhen cases wind up in nationwide news, or in this case even global media coverage. Those cases attract the really sly and skilled lawyers, and the legal outcomes are not seldom very strange indeed, usually we travel through the lands of surrealism. This is almost always how cases end, which receives this kind of coverage. And they never have any kind of actual justice coming out in the end. It becomes broken down into portions of political interest, legal technicalities and public interest. When you read the media coverage, they report the events and discoveries in such a way as to affect everyone; though spinning things through their usual sensationalist angles. The Media are not straight up lying, but they bring up commentaries followed by question marks leaving theories hanging in the air for people to mull over. It is a classic sly way of keeping the case relevant and sensationalist enough to sell their news. Their immoral job works it's own way of portraying the case completely out of proportion with reality. And this naturally also affect people in the case as well.
3 likesHow is she not in prison. She murdered her baby. Was this a satanic ritual sacrifice protected by the elite or something?
0 likes@Love & other Plants exactly what I was thinking
0 likes@Alana Martin so sad. I dont understand how shes not in prison. She murdered her baby girl.
0 likesJust think of all the innocent people that have been sitting in prison with the actual killers on the streets just because they had a bad defense lawyer
1 likeizoom specifically war on POC and government critics
0 likesIt’s called Freemasons. They tell no secrets.
0 likesIt's called white privilege!
1 likeM J it’s called elite privilege.
3 likes@Johnny B Casey Anthony is FAR from elite. It was because she is white....PERIOD!!
0 likesM J No. her family was Freemasons. Has nothing to do about skin color.
3 likes@Johnny B you must be white to deny that her being white had nothing to do with why she was completely exonerated.
0 likesTHC lives matter.. Whats THC?
0 likes.2 grams for me
1 likeIt’s insane.
0 likes@hiding in the comments Answer: Pharmaceuticals.
0 likes@Haven Thompson That's the illegal drug trade in a nutshell in terms of a bad dealership.
0 likesExactly. And don't tell me "the pretty young white woman" card didn't matter.
0 likes@Junko it's legal in my state... Silly goose
2 likes@izoom amen and the majority still refuses to see.
0 likesNot really. It's easy to get a gram of bud with 25 percent thc by weight. So a gram of thc is equal to just 4 grams of good quality bud.
1 likesomething the people only can change.... with firesticks and stones!
0 likesThere was a guy ("black", of course) who recently got sentenced to life for having 0.67 grams worth of herb. Shit you not.
3 likesHaven Thompson my essays in school
0 likesExactly!!
0 likesI know...they should both be in jail. LOL
1 like@witch blade No. Did you come to the video to read comments? Lol
0 likes@John Denver it's spelled "hippie" country roads.
1 likethis the comment.
0 likesThe war on drugs is a colossal fucking failure but somehow this country parades it around as if it isn't, that's why instead of focusing on killers and murderers and rapists we focus on people smoking a fucking plant.
2 likesDavid Parry that makes NO SENSE, oh and that’s USA to you, not usa
0 likes@Mia Persson no its not there are whites in prison too smh 🤦
1 like@Brian Vincent really white privilege is a myth!
2 likesPeople go to jail for crimes they didn’t even commit.
0 likes@Terra Rose I remember during the Kavanaugh debacle when Christine testified and it became clear how ridiculous she was and there was no evidence they'd ever been in the same room at the same time... Then CNN announced the new talking points. I didn't remember ever having heard anyone actually speak the word "temperament", but suddenly all the mindless drones I know and love had stopped talking about Christine and were now talking about how his "temperament" was unsuitable for the job. It was so eery and unnerving, like Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
1 likeYes the whole system is so messed up.
0 likesDoesnt surprise me, this world is a terrible, disgusting place to be and life is an affliction not a gift, people honestly only care about themselves and every day i live i become less and less convinced that there is any good in the world at all
3 likesthat's a lot of thc bud
0 likesWhere she live? Haha
0 likesLeDeskripshun I Don’t think she will be walking free for long mate.
0 likesThing have a way of working out.
David Parry That’s what I like to hear.!
0 likesIt’s just a shame not more priests, politicians and millionaire sex pests
Don’t go missing.
I have hope for the future tho.
Exactly
0 likesI think since that’s a daughter of a retired cop she hook some off the hook
0 likesIt was too much work for police detectives to convict her ... sending black kids to prison for Weed, is much easier, and leaves plenty of time for eating donuts.
1 likePeople get arrested for crimes. Yes, Einstein. That's how it works. They don't always get prosecuted because they may not be guilty. That's kind of how the court system works. It's easy to prove someone is carrying illegal drugs. Not so easy to prove culpability in a murder trial.
3 likesKarlomat what, no it’s not. I can make a gram of dabs last like 4-7 days
0 likes@Karlomat no... it isn't. that's just the normal size of a cart, which lasts me about two weeks give or take.
0 likesWow talk about false equivalence. Why do people continue to try to plead the case that despite the fact that possession of marijuana was a crime at the time of possession, the law should simply have been set aside? It's just so much special interest bullshit, coming from pot smokers who think the law shouldn't have applied to those like themselves.
3 likesThere's only one viable point of equivalence here. If a prosecutor failed to meet the burden of proof on the possession charge, then the defendant should have been released. It works. People without marijuana don't get convicted of possessing marijuana. Period - end of story.
Mob rule doesn't determine guilt. Media loudmouths that nearly got disbarred due to their misunderstandings of how the law works don't determine guilt. What "probably" or "possibly" happened don't determine guilt. Evidence determines guilt. They didn't present evidence that conclusively proved Casey murdered anyone. Not to the jury - and the jury's idea of that is what matters.
If this had happened to most in the mob? Or anything else in which a whole bunch of anecdotal shit got built into a story that was presented to a jury, and the mob decided that jury instructions shouldn't matter based on some popular idea of what should be done, there would be a problem. People need to stop trying to hustle others by claiming their anger is based on anything but the fact that this happened to someone else and it's simple to root for their failure whether they've been provably convicted or not. Whether there's a kid involved or not.
This is the only way to maintain the objectivity of the legal process and without that objectivity the masses would be even more fucked than we are right now.
hiding in the comments how is this even about priorities? This is about how the jury voted, not about anything else.
0 likesWe live in hell I'm sure of it
0 likes#facts
0 likesFree Masons
0 likesYou've been living in a dream world Neo......
0 likesVictor Racioppi do your research. You'll find someone in jail for gram. Some places will put you in for five years just for a gram.
0 likesI'm pretty sure she has another kid too. :(
0 likesMost people are let go for small amounts of weed, it's all about the way you act and treat officers. But, we really need to end the drug war.
0 likesShe’s a white lady
1 likeWhite privilege, my friends, is not a myth
1 like@Cam a gram of thc is alot you mean a gram of weed? weed has some thc on it but weed doesn't consist of just thc
1 likeThe government doesn't give a fuck about tegridy, WE NEED TEGRIDY TO SURVIVE
2 likesYIp! Unfrotunately...but it would have been a different story had she had been black.
0 likesSurely the evidence of her internet search history the day of her daughter's death along with the method of her death was damning enough? Was the jury really that easily swayed by her lawyers theatrics, ironicallly even better theatrics than what Casey herself could have conjured up?
0 likesTestify.
0 likesbecause she wasn't convicted, duh.
0 likes@Justin yeah. The punishment for small amounts of weed more often are hugely influenced by how you respond to the cop. Ive never understood why people feel the need to get resentful before the conversation even starts. Folks will stack all the chips up against themselves, have the most shortsighted viewpoint towards the law; then get the book thrown at them and never consider a thing they could have done differently.
1 like@Roche fort6 wtf? this so called mom , she murder her child its not bout thc,..and i dont even smoke :/
0 likesMarijuana stinks. In Miami I would be walking on the sidewalk and then suddenly a strong whiff of some drug which is probably that coming from some addict's backyard.
0 likesIKR, something is so wrong here...
0 likes@Karlomat wtf
0 likes@Junko i hope you R being sarcastic bout going to jail for weed
2 likes@yacheberry you mean like OJ
0 likessomehow? not guilty by a jury of her peers...... its not really that complicated
0 likes"don't catch you slippin now" - Childish Gambino
0 likeshiding in the comments
0 likesYou’ve obviously never taken any sort of criminal justice course, or bothered to look into the process if you think that Casey Anthony’s case was not a top priority for the prosecutors. Literally one of the first things you’ll learn is that the top priority cases are high profile cases with a lot of attention.
for having a gram, next month for having 10 grams, next year for reselling for 100grams
0 likesYeah drug dealers and users can get 20 years but chomo and even man slaughter gets less. Non-violent drug offenders need real rehab but i know that cant happen since more than 60 percent of prisons money will be lost.
0 likesThat's because she's not stealing money from the government. She's helping the government by reducing population.
0 likesGotta love America eh, glad everyday I love in the first world!
0 likesi still question the polices efforts in finding actual evidence, because i surely would think that there is Casey’s fingerprints on the duct tape that was found on her daughters body.
0 likesShe went free?
0 likesGood thing Trump has been releasing those people lately with the second chance act. Biden fucking ruined those people with that bill, but thank god Trump is now doing something about it by allowing these men and women to walk free again.
1 likeSay what you want about Trump, but this was a great thing to have done.
even less than a gram
0 likes@The Destroyer I think YOU need to go back to school. I believe Casey is guilty. I also believe OJ Simpson killed Nicole Simpson. After watching the entire OJ trial, I knew in my heart I could never convict him if I'd have been a juror on that case because THERE WAS INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE. Eventually karma caught up with ol' OJ. There simply WAS INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE AGAINST Casey Anthony to convict her. Karma will get her. Eventually.
0 likes@Cam when people get "caught" with anything the evidence is sufficient. If Casey Anthony had been "caught" taping up Carley's mouth or caught carrying the dead body to the car or caught with ANYTHING the evidence would have been sufficient for conviction. But she was NOT caught with anything. This is what's called "circumstantial evidence" which isn't necessarily the truth. That lawyer was also a sociopath and the two sociopaths did exactly what sociopaths do best. They pointed out again and again that nobody could prove her guilt. It was NOT proven.
0 likes@Justin a gram? You picked up a gram of weed off the ground? A gram? Ok.
0 likes@Paul can you imagine? No wonder Pelosi was pissed she couldn't get her hair done!
0 likes@TC Talk There was no evidence against OJ. But karma got him.
0 likes@Vishwas Kumar And I'm glad. If there is no evidence you cannot convict. If this were not true ANYONE could rot in jail for ANYTHING.
0 likes@Mary Ray Based on what evidence to the charge of 1st degree murder? I REALLY hope I never have to serve on a jury with you AND God have mercy on anyone you may be sitting in judgement of in any jury duty YOU may serve.
0 likes@M H Convict someone to the death penalty based on perception? Really? Ok.....
0 likes🇺🇲🇺🇲🤡🤡💲💲🤡🤡💲💲🤡🤡🇺🇲🇺🇲
0 likesLiterally nothing wrong with jailing druggies
1 likeReally
0 likesHow did she get off Im in shock still 2020 this is crazy Im scared of what Gods plan is for her.
0 likesJunko lol
1 likeComparing potatoes with oranges
0 likes@Cam yeah you're right it's far worse. She killed her daughter to live a life of partying and drinking. Did you not watch the video or something? Or are you Casey?
0 likesThe law is the law. It may be unjust but why take the risk?
0 likes@Karlomat I go through about a gram of 93.87% THC every week, and I don't get "high", I just get the munchies. Everyone reacts differently. After the munchies are satiated, I usually feel like it's time for sleeping. Similar to the way I feel after eating a Thanksgiving dinner.
1 like@Roche fort6 THC saves children's lives by preventing them from dying from seizure disorders, usually discovered only after the parents have exhausted all of their options through BIG pharma. It can also keep them breathing while suffering an asthma attack. THC, and CBD have so many medicinal uses, dispensaries are considered essential businesses.
1 likeOh no not one of you people. Just because one deserves to go to jail doesn’t mean the other doesnt. Fill them prisons up baby
0 likeswell a gram of THC is illegal. a gram of cannabis isn't nearly as illegal
1 likeJASON VOORHEES Read better, please.
0 likesShe should be in there with them, it’s a great injustice.
0 likestwo words: white privilege
0 likesOr for not wearing a face mask: because you know , we're murderers.
0 likes@izoom move to the border of mexico and you will change your mind.
0 likesWhy wouldn't she be free walking the streets? She's not guilty of the gram. The people in jail for drug charges were found guilty of crimes.
0 likesThings being illegal is how the law makers get rich and how they get their friends rich.
0 likesStep 1. Make something (anything) illegal for 'reasons'
Step 2. Import and distribute said product - tax free of course.
Step 3. Prosecute and imprison users as slave labour (prisons are private businesses designed to make a PROFIT)
Step 4. Repeat.
It is ENTIRELY unethical for a prison to make a profit. THIS is modern day slavery.
a gram of what
0 likes@yacheberry For the love of God. Imagine if the prosecution didn't screw up and charge her with fist degree murder when they didn't have enough evidence for that charge to stick. They could have charged her with second degree murder and/or a multitude of smaller charges ( eg. purposefully lying to detectives and obstructing the investigation) that would have stuck, but they didn't. What she did was heinous, and she should have been punished accordingly, but due to lack of concrete evidence, they should have charged her with appropriate charges to ensure she at least served time. The prosecution was completely incompetent. Let's make this all about race and "white privilege" though. That's much more trendy.
1 like@Dragonskizi Kinda like getting Capone on tax evasion?
0 likesShe also has another child that they didn’t take away!
0 likesJust put duct tape on all your mary products and the jury will conclude that you indeed did not commit a crime
0 likesI'm a felon for life for selling a quarter ounce of weed to a narc when I was a 17 year old minor. They tried and charged and tried as an adult like I did something terrible.
0 likesKarlomat def not lol
0 likesKarlomat have you ever even smoked lol?
0 likesVictor Racioppi Bro people are in jail for having 0 grams of weed on their person. If you aren’t white you can end up in jail for anything in America
1 likeDingle Barry lmao
0 likesJohnny B My grandad was a Freemason but he wouldn’t get out of a criminal conviction because of it. Wtf are you even talking about
0 likesKAOS NATION Conservatives always say it’s a media narrative. Nah bro, it’s a fucking fact. Thousands of black Americans are jailed without proper cause. If you don’t understand that you’re blind
0 likesJohn Denver you don’t have to go that far dog. Let’s focus on legalizing weed for now
0 likesJackson Five Why would someone not defend something because it isn’t addictive?
0 likesShe's white, that always helps.
0 likes@bribri mann no it doesn't, it was her psychopathic charm plus being a woman, ppl are biologically programmed to be way more lenient on women
1 like@Zach McMahan Well said! So bored of the race card being drawn! Move on already look at the shit it's caused!
2 likesTbh its really dumb to have weed illegally when you can literally go get a card right now in most states. Also. Yeah. It sucks. But im willing to bet she will get whats coming to her🤐
0 likesyou should look at all the casey videos on YARtv on youtube they show how the case was faked!
0 likes@Karlomat Nah man.. Let's say some average high grade bud contains 20% THC, then you only need 5 grams to have 1 gram of THC on you (5g x 0.2 = 1g). That'll last me a week at most ;)
0 likesAd insult to injury by thinking about all the states in the Union that let people smoke freely.
0 likesWelcome to America
0 likesKarlomat what 💀 maybe last a few days
1 likeSolid Hyrax what? 💀
0 likesSolid Hyrax why are you getting gender into this 🙄
0 likesJohn Denver what? 😂 these comments are funny asf
0 likespob rez YESSSS I LOVE YOUUU MR. MACKEYYY
0 likesDingle Barry I’m sooo confused, how are they claiming to know her whereabouts ?
0 likesI smoked a marijuana cigarette one time while listening to Black Sabbath. The next day, the phone rang... A man on the other end asked if my clock was running. I said " yes " ... He replied " well you better go catch it "
1 likeMAKE IT MAKE SENSE
0 likesImagine thinking that some bad outcomes on a case like this could be considered as an excuse to free other criminals. Just imagine that reasoning on politicians.
0 likesShiiit
0 likesHow does this case turn into a discussion about sexism, white privilege and weed. Who hurt you America, you’re like the Skywalkers in Star Wars just one family, single handedly screwing the rest of the galaxy over, projecting ya crap on everyone else. You could all do with a smoke in my opinion might chill you all out and stop you murderising each other (and yes I’m aware murderising isn’t a real word, sounds cool to say though)
2 likesShe's a woman, that's why
0 likes@wolfaesthetic how old are you? You do realize that you are enraged and arguing with me about something I didn’t have an opinion about? Go take your meds.
0 likesInsane .....don’t worry karma will get her
0 likesPeople who think that the politicians "care" about the war on drugs, should watch the last narco documentary on Amazon prime. Politicians are the lowest of the low creatures, and what happens in handmaid's tail about getting rid of them all stems from scandals like these.
0 likesWe live in a world that promotes liars and puts the boot hardest on the lowest in the pecking order. If someone wrote a book about this dystopian world, people would say it'd be impossible to maintain
0 likes@Roche fort6 Thc isn't for children
0 likesNobody is in jail for more than a day or two for a gram of thc. Maybe if they were on parole for a serious charge and violated their parole with a gram of thc.
0 likes@ResidentMilf I'm pretty sure That the point that was trying to be made was that a gram of weed is not the same thing as 1 gm of THC. Anybody that has smoked wax knows the that to be the truth.
0 likesWomen privilege!!! It's simple! Why am I the only person on Earth that realized women have more privilege than men!
0 likesShe should have been forced to have a hysterectomy at the least.
1 likeYa like my husband whose currently in jail for a probation violation for not reporting to his probation officer, and he didn't kill anyone. It's Fucking Bullshit! April
0 likesShe kills her daughter she in jail for 2 years because of the case and then got away with murder. So if I kill my Mother I could have the same trial like Casey's right. The Criminal Justice System is shit and that's why no one really respects the Law and Authority. No one cares who you kill they only care about the money.
0 likesLooks like somebody told the incels where the party was...
0 likesThis is how fucked up our "Justice" system is, as much as i hate to say it--
0 likesMurder cases like this cost the courts and state lots and lots of money, however drug cases MAKE the courts money- and TONS of it.... So yeahhhhhh the priorities here are VERY clear....
Big f
0 likesNo doubt about it
0 likes@hiding in the comments $$$
0 likesWow. A gram is a hell of a lot of THC.
0 likes@Love & other Plants Ordered *whom*?
0 likesI was saying the same exact thing. This is what’s wrong with America. They attack people for having drugs on them, but give less time to rapists & murderers. It’s beyond messed up.
0 likesInjustice
0 likes@Dragonskizi 😂 lol
0 likesAnd the call this democracratic socity the base wars just on that
0 likesin your eyes thats what that means. But these jurors need to quit being coaxed by prosecutors into finding an assailant to put these crimes at ease when no evidence exists. This is all cirmonstancial and not hard evidence. People forget that they need to prove "without a reason of doubt" before finding people guilty. Shame to those that use their option on the case at hand. It is the states job to prove without a shadow of a doubt otherwise. QUIT BEING A PART OF THROWING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN JAIL!!! idts
0 likesActually the american justice system puts people in jail for failed child support, not liars.
0 likes@Karlomat no it’s not 😂
0 likes@Junko lol u have no idea
0 likesWahman, believe all. The end
0 likesWhere is the irrefutable proof?
0 likesThank god it’s legal in my country to where I can grow my own shit 😁. Even before legalization cops didn’t really give a fuck about weed out here because we are educated.
1 likeBlame the prosecution. They could not prove the charge they were going for beyond a reasonable doubt. If you look at the case and don't understand why she got off, then you need to look at it again. Because it's really easy to see. I would bet you my entire life's savings, my house, my car, my animals, hundreds of thousands of dollars there, that she killed her daughter. But I would not have voted guilty for first degree murder. They did not present a case that proved it. What people don't understand is that it's not guilty or innocent. Nobody voted her innocent. It's guilty or not guilty. That's it. All they have to do is create doubt that things did not go down as they said they did exactly and that's what they did. You cannot prove with the evidence that things went down in a way that would weren't first degree murder. If they had gone for a different charge, they would have gotten it
0 likesAmerican justice system be like:
0 likes"oh whats thats? you didnt give 25% of your money to the government and smoked a blunt? your a menace to society, 20 years no probation"
"you killed your child? eh give her a week in prison, who cares lol"
How about the father (father of the child)?
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I saw another comment saying that , maybe it's possible ?
0 likesshe literally said at 29:55 “i am really glad that Caylee had both of you” then she corrected her self saying “and still has both of you” wasn’t that enough to show that she was referring to a dead person by saying “had” ??
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She said “has had” as in has had them up to that point. Then continued to stay “and still has” I’m not picking sides buttttt no. You’re wrong.
68 likes@M. Once I saw the 1ST visitation, I knew that Casey’s dad knew Casey murdered Caylee & that her mom at least thought Casey murdered Caylee. Mainly because of what you just described. I don’t care how Casey worded it because they knew they were being recorded. JCS has taught me that recording interrogations & visitations subconsciously makes suspects rehearse on the spot.
23 likesI think she said had because she is not with them at the time so she didn't have them at the time
3 likesAnd then Casey's mother covers her moth with her hand- she heard it too... I'll bet a chill went down her spine in that moment- I bet she realized her granddaughter was dead and her daughter knew it.
27 likesI picked up on that too!
5 likes@Vance Matthews the way they basically waved in her face that everyone was looking and asked if they were going to find her
1 likeYea I caught that too right away. Like she was trying to convince them her kidwas still alive.
1 likedefinitely telling but its words, not enough
0 likesI picked up on that too
0 likesyesss your fkn smart bro
0 likes@Recessional you obviously missed it.
0 likesI noticed that too!
0 likes@Finished!!!!!! All you have to do is replay the video which I did. She said “She’s had” listen. Listen. Subtle but difference from “She had” if you comprehend English. Smh
1 likeShe did it twice which is even worse.
0 likesFOR REALLL
1 likein a movie, it is. in reality it isn't
1 likeThis was so clear what happened to baby -car smell lies party tattoos marijuana everything showed she was happy and glad of this decision-so what happened ? Not guilty ? Book and movie only show she still having fun -I don’t want to judge but I can’t stop thinking what is this show
0 likesI feel so bad for Hopkins, can you imagine needing the testify just because a murderer you’ve never met name dropped you for no reason 😭
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I feel bad for Caylee...
5 likesI am still appalled that she was found not guilty on any counts. She was the last person with her daughter, lack of concerns, Google up how to suffocate someone, stench in her trunk, endless lies, “happiest I’ve ever been.” written in her journal while her daughter is missing, and still the juror found “lack of evidences” to convict her on ANYTHING?! Justice was not served and she got away with not taking responsibilities for her actions, just like she always has.
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Well I mean, I see it to and going off emotions I'd convict her. But undeniable proof was scarce and the Jury decided to give 100% unbiased opinions, leading to not guilty
9 likes@WarlockAJ There was a lot of undeniable proof
40 likes@BlueCore777 of what? of google search, stench in a car, hints? nothing that fully proves she did it. Grow up, emotions dont count...
14 likes@Emir Minder Its not "my logic" - its how justice system should work -(innocent until proven guilty....) unless you can prove beyond reason of doubt, people are innocent. If there is no concrete evidence that ties perpetrator to crime scene - you cant prove he/she did it. Period.
10 likesIm not even going to address your imaginary frame up scenario, but... man it does seem tempting.
As to rest - have you seen latest deep fake videos? Yeah, sadly its not ironclad evidence anymore.
@Bartosz Baranowski American justice system i guess
14 likes@Emir Minder I am 1 million % on your side. This was a ridiculous outcome. There was so much proof against her. It makes no sense that she would have placed tape over her daughter's mouth if her daughter had drowned in the swimming pool; and at two years old how in the hell would she have even been able to get there on her own? You don't even need physical evidence, just common sense and logic for the entirety of this case to have had a guilty verdict on all accounts. But that is the system in the U.S. and Canada. The system is flawed, and as much as there are things in place for the innocent to not have a guilty verdict, it also allows the guilty to have an innocent verdict. Many people are on the streets who deserve to be the ones rotting in prison or elsewhere. It's extremely disgraceful and just overall so unbelievably sad. There IS ONLY proof against her.
14 likes@A Blood Red Pearl I mean their counter argument is completely thrash too. Even though Casey says otherwise the attorney said little girl died of suffocation in a pool. Even if that was the truth then she should be in asylum. Because her dauhgter got killed and then she partied every day got a tattoo saying life is good and then bury her own kid with tape on her face. Even all of the evidence against her was fake she should be locked up in an asylum at least.
7 likes@A Blood Red Pearl I'm very scared of what's becoming the " justice" in the world
3 likes@DAVID CHEN That way I could accuse you of murder without presenting any evidence, and you'd have to defend yourself. That makes no sense. It's been "innocent until proven guilty" for 2000 years in the Western world, because if you wanna put someone behind bars, you damn well gotta show some evidence that the person is guilty. If you have no evidence, the person is free to go.
2 likes@Bartosz Baranowski Bruh, the defense's opening statement was that she had the body in her car and dumped it into the ditch. They just said she didn't kill her and that she died in the pool by accident. But thats fake news since the body was found with her mouth and nose duct tapped (why tf would you duct tape her after she already suffocated) and there was google searches on how to suffocate someone....
0 likesMaybe she paid or blew the jury 😂
1 like@Bartosz Baranowski uhhh what? If you google how to make a bomb and then theirs a bombing near by your ass is in prison
3 likes@DAVID CHEN it’s not how it works 99% of the time. Can’t help but think a judge ran over her face as a child
0 likes@Darth Nixa really not how it works.
0 likes@Darth Nixa 'It's been "innocent until proven guilty" for 2000 years in the Western world' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials Just one example of that claim being BS.... Nobility was a thing too, the plebs back then would never get a fair trial in front of noblemen... Try more like 200 years fam.
3 likes@Bartosz Baranowski If thats truly how the justice system works, then how did the Central Park Five case happen? You seem very eager to defend a justice system that has undeniably incarcerated and wronged minorities for decades. This white woman changed her story like three times, lied the whole way through, made up a fake babysitter kidnapping story, and you’re telling me the justice system isn’t faulty? I believe it should be innocent until proven guilty too, but geeze, Casey was DEFINITELY guilty man.
2 likes@BlueCore777 oh so then why a group of professionals failed at noticing it but you don't??? I recommend you study to become a lawyer cause you are really good for it
0 likes@Haley Poole Really? without any other evidence? wow. I could be in different town, but just because my search history match one of parameter of being a suspect Im guilty.... Talk about being guilty by association.
1 likeNo honey. This would only mean Im a potential suspect, does not say or prove that Im guilty.
@Bartosz Baranowski A reasonable preponderance of evidence would indicate that yes, if someone was found to have been researching methods of killing a child and has a smell of a deceased body in their car, that they killed their child or at the very least, were aware their child was dead and didn't inform police.
0 likes@Bartosz Baranowski I don't get why you're acting so cocky because everything you listed is perfectly acceptable circumstantial evidence.
0 likes@Darth Nixa But they do have evidence. That's kind of the outrageous part of this case.
0 likes@Bartosz Baranowski The justice system is demonstrably flawed in a number of ways and does not always produce accurate results. The fact that someone has been found not guilty of a specific charge does not mean they were not responsible for what occurred. You can talk yourself breathless about the first principles of law but in this case, you are just letting Casey piss on your leg and giggle as she tells you it is raining.
0 likes@Bartosz Baranowski so we're all just gunna ignore "beyond reason of doubt." Kek. This alone should tell you the IQ of this guy.
0 likes@Jess Pavlichenko yeah, yet, you cant prove it.
1 like@Jess Pavlichenko "circumstantial" - exactly. circumstantial evidence does not prove beyond reason of doubt, does it? Unless there is hard proof that links suspect and set of circumstantial evidence to crime scene, victim etc it proves nothing.
1 like@Jess Pavlichenko Ech.... thats exactly my point. She seems guilty. But there is no hard proof other than circumstantial.
0 likesAs to rest... damn you have chip on your shoulder. Its not about letting her go, because I cant prove it. Its about not putting innocent people in jail because there is only circumstantial evidence.
You are really ignorant if you view it like that pissing contest. Look at Japan or iron curtain countries - guilty until proven otherwise.
@Arq Kay ?
0 likes@Arq Kay ach, I get it. Personal take on mistake I made in non native language. Yes, thats clear indication of my low IQ....
0 likesClassic NLP at play. Don't take on the argument, attack and discredit opponent. Nice.
For all offended snowflakes, like Arq Kay, Im sorry, I made a bubu, it should have been:"Beyond a reasonable doubt" not "beyond reason of doubt".
@Bartosz Baranowski Casey Anthony was the last person to see Caylee alive. She had been 'missing' for 31 days according to herself, but the defence later argues she had died on the first day. So there's the first lie, because those are two mutually exclusive statements. She showed no emotion towards her child whatsoever which can also be easily proven by everything shown in the video. She looked up suffocation, the corpse of her child was then found wrapped in items that belonged to Casey with duct tape on her mouth and nose. The trunk of her car was reported by multiple people to reek of death. Please explain to me how someone who is not guilty of any nefarious shit has a trunk that smells like death. On the day the police got involved, she led them around town to all kinds of places that had no relevance at all so as to prolong the search for her child. Again, why would an innocent person do this. I agree there is reasonable doubt as to whether it was first degree murder. But even if we follow the defences (clearly fabricated) story about her drowning on the first day, Casey should have still definitely gotten that neglect charge, and I'm not sure what the law is about hiding someone's 'accidental' death, but that doesn't exactly seem legal either. So in summary, saying there is no evidence and people are merely 'acting on emotion' when they say she did it, is really fucking dumb.
0 likescircumstantial evidence, a silver-tongued defense attorney & an apathetic jury.
1 likeThe prosecution fuckin sucked at presenting that case
0 likes@A Blood Red Pearl it goes both ways people are sitting in prison who did not do the crime
0 likes@Est.1997 If you read my comment, I specifically made that point.
0 likes@A Blood Red Pearl no you never said the innocent receive guilty verdicts only adamant about the other way around
0 likes@Est.1997 I said, "The system is flawed, and as much as there are things in place for the innocent to not have a guilty verdict, it also allows the guilty to have an innocent verdict. " Meaning that innocent people have been tried guilty before, and laws have been placed to prevent that; reflecting what you are saying. I am not fighting with immature people in forums. The difference between you and I is I don't care about your opinion. You have the right to yours, and I have the right to mine; respecting that reality. It is also funny since I didn't even argue with you, I simply said to the other person that I agreed with them, so there was no place for you to jump in to begin with. Anyway, I am not entertaining this any further. Take care.
0 likesi can't believe she got away with murder but someone smoking weed goes to jail.
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There are parents in jail for food stamp fraud lmao America is a dystopia
360 likes@Jess Pavlichenko America sucks, let's all move to somewhere else... like......
58 likesDź
2 likes@Marklithikk genius comment
10 likesWel, she did both
4 likesIt doesnt make new criminals any more than alcohol does, it just causes poor judgement. I'd rather a child murderer spend decades in prison than some teenager who got caught with a pot brownie.
37 likes@Jiri Skoda It was a hypothetical dude, I said 'I'd rather see', but kids do go to jail for years over distribution of pot and weed brownies, though possession usually only results in detention.
19 likesEither way, I'm just using a hypothetical situation to exemplify the absurdity of the lack of consequence in this case where as people are punished for harmless minor crimes.
I don't know where you got me indicating an actual incident from.
She was found not guilty. If you were found not guilty for smoking weed, you would not go to jail.
3 likes@Javier Arenas I mean... I couldn't be because it's legal, but I guess if I was somewhere it wasn't. But that's kind of the point, the usa justice system failed here. People go to jail for years over harmless things while monsters get away with heinous crimes.
10 likesIt's because the prosecution did a bad job. They built the entire case on first degree premeditated murder, which let the defense argue that Caley's death was accidental and then covered up, which would at best support murder two. They should have charged her with both and given the jury the option to pick one but were overconfident.
8 likes@Bog Meat I get it. My point was to bring up the absurdity of the comparison Sarah did on the first place, it's not a matter of penalty proportionality on murders. Maybe the system failed, but that has nothing to do with lawfully imprisoned drug dealers or whatever you consider "harmless things". Again, maybe those penalties are high (😉) for the crime, fair, but comparison makes no sense to me. The only issue is the proof needed to convict.
0 likesPS: If the jury found her guilty after days of trial, are we qualified to assess differently over a youtube video?(That's all the info I have at least, I guess this has had a huge media impact in US)
@Javier Arenas I understand your point, but people in this thread are just pointing out the absurdity of this and other situations where a clearly horrible person isn't charged for their crimes through comparison. People were the same way with the case where the parents of a child kept in a dog cage in the basement only got two years. People tend to compare light sentences, or a lack of any, to heavy sentences for minor crimes to express outrage at the lack of consequence.
4 likesIt isn't at all necessary, but it's just people sharing their thoughts and feelings on the case with other strangers. Being qualified has nothing to do with it, people can discuss and analyze the case as they see fit.
technically she got away with both
1 like@Jiri Skoda actually as someone who's volunteered at a few Incarcerated Youth Centers, there's certainly teenagers sent to prison for possession of weed. IYC is without a doubt prison, just with a different name, because a lot of those kids don't ever leave the system, not even after they're adults (where they go to prison after)
3 likesShe got thrown in jail for other charges and people smoking weed can be thrown in jail for other crimes. Still if it can't be proven it can't be proven. That lawyer she hired must be raking in the dough.
1 likeArt Vandalay that’s true but it is also necessary to acknowledge that the system is biased, and if a black kid is seen smoking a gram of weed, he’s more likely to be thrown in jail for that gram of weed (https://theleafdesk.com/meet-the-americans-with-life-sentences-for-cannabis-possession/) as opposed to a white man who’s shot someone. i’ve met people who’ve lost their lives to the prison system for literally just having weed on them, without a history of any other criminal charges.
0 likes@Lanh Matelski That sucks. The system is not biased. Imperfect for sure but I bet there are other factors to consider. I am a bit skeptical of a white guy shooting someone getting less time than weed but shoot me the link and I'll read it I'm happy to change my mind.
1 like@Cody Ruth Nooooo! Don't bring your covid up here!
0 likesApparently there was an issue with americans sneaking into Canada when cases really started to explode. The border along Seattle and British Columbia was closed for all non-essential travel and a bunch of people claimed they lived Alaska, even though they didn't, just to escape the US side of the pandemic.
For 20 years.. Shouts out to the Texas "legal" system
0 likes@Alley Mask "Corrupt system" it is legal I think you meant "fair" xD
0 likes@Amarathros no exactly! Definitely should be called the "fair legal system" and act accordingly to that term
0 likes@Alley Mask The weed argument is deceptive because it doesn't tell you all the facts. Someone goes to jail for weed probably has other crimes against them as well.
1 like@Eric H Someone who smokes weed can get away with it too. In this case she just had the better lawyer and they couldn't prove she did it. Now did she? Maybe. Maybe her neglect killed the kid and she doesn't give a shit.
0 likesPeople who go to jail for weed also tend to, usually, have other blots on their records.
@Amarathros in COURT having the argument of "probably" shouldn't be a valid reason... THATS deceptive
0 likes@Alley Mask Probable cause does play a role but I never said that was how the decision should be, that was my opinion that she was negligent.
0 likes@Marklithikk I’ve heard the Congo and Syria are beautiful this time of year.
1 like@Jiri Skoda joking, right?
0 likesYeo
0 likesshe was also smoking weed but didn't get charged for that lol
1 likeMurica
0 likesShe was actually arrested a year later
1 likePeople get off on weed charges all the time too.
1 like@RazzBerry No, you always upcharge so if that doesn't stick second degree murder can be applied. If they would have charged her for second degree but it turned out to be first, she would have got off.
0 likes@botdog why do assume that just because someone is against weed that they chug a 12 pack on the daily?
0 likeswhat correlation to the two was there in the comment?
@Aranyani Green so according to you no person the same color as Casey has ever been convicted in the USA.
0 likesyou are wrong.
If that was a black woman
1 like@Ibrahim Kargbo what did your incomplete statement mean?
0 likesyou(original commentator) dont seem to be able to comprehend the concept of being convicted versus not being convicted.
0 likes@Jiri Skoda so does alcohol and that's totally legal :/
2 likes@Reuven Roslyn, Esq I think they also charged her aggrevated manslaughter in the first degree as a backup charge, and it was also found not guilty.........
1 likeBut yeah, the prosecution did a bad job here........I would not have convicted her with murder one base on the case presented...
The US legal system is a freaking clown show.
1 likeJiri Skoda go ahead and call BS. i know you’re not ever going to visit the Incarcerated Youth Center of Chicago, and I know you’re not ever going to meet those kids who (as young as 13) have been imprisoned for possession of weed. In my opinion, as a three-year-long volunteer, it is in fact a prison, because none of the youth actually leave the prison system. Sure, they might age out, but they end up right back in prison later on sometimes even months apart from when they leave the Center.
2 likesJiri Skoda And then again, you’re probably just a troll. Even if you aren’t, im not arguing with someone whos never been to this specific Center, because i know that the diaspora between our point of views is just going to cause trouble, since you don’t know what i know and i don’t know what you know.
1 like@Jiri Skoda no that's a real scenario and not part of my original hypothetical that it's absurd that a person can be imprisoned with an excessive sentence for a minor crime with no victims in the same justice system that lets a clear and blatantly dangerous murderer walk free.
0 likesWeed is legal in a LOT of the USA now. Been legal for me in California for a LONG, LONG time..... got my medical card when I was 18 because I have seizures, but now it's just plain legal for ANYBODY of smoking age - although i still keep my medical documents up to date because I think it "looks better" on paper.....
1 like@Jiri Skoda weed causes MURDER?! Ok bro lmfaoooo
1 like@Amarathros for real? You think if she was a black girl and not a white girl from a decent family she would have got away with this? Ooooooooookkkkkkk
0 likes@Amanda Feliciano Right because everything is racist WOW! If she came from decent family and was black, yes. xD
0 likesJiri Skoda autocorrect 😩
0 likes@Jess Pavlichenko Food Stamps came from War Rationing. Why are you still using them? Someone tell the USA that we managed to kill Hitler... Wake up America why are you still on rations?
0 likes@Reuven Roslyn, Esq You shouldn't let criminals of heinous crimes walk free on a ''technicality''. That isn't justice. It contradicts the point of the justice system.
0 likes@Javier Arenas Consider the following: Your ''jury'' is comprised of a random selection of individuals.
0 likesThus, are we qualified to assess differently over a youtube video?
i would think no more, but also no less than the jury (who are also not professionals)
@Marklithikk I’m not American and I always found it baffling that people continue to live in certain states that still have the death penalty for example. I’d move to another state ASAP.
0 likes@Robotron Sage not professionals who went trough all the proof and facts for weeks. I just saw a 69 minute - probably biased - sensationalist video. I'm not saying they can´t be wrong or we can't be right, I just don't find it so easy to assure that the decision is wrong.
0 likes@Cody Ruth It's the same as the U.S. mostly.
0 likes@Captain James T. Kirk is it just a myth? Is it? Really?
0 likesI can't believe someone who only smokes weed and goes to jail...but she gets away with murdering AND SMOKING WEED!
0 likesholy fuck this comment is blessed and tears my soul to shreds
1 likeBro! True!
0 likes@lelennyfox34 exactly. There have been plenty of people convicted on less evidence. I mean they had decomposition in her car. They had proof casey lied about everything. They had evidence
0 likes@Lanh Matelski it's more about the color green as in money. If that black kids parents have money he can get away without going to jail. Money can keep blacks out of jail just look what money did for OJ Simpson
0 likes@Marklithikk New Zealand
0 likes@Marklithikk Switzerland.
0 likes@Jess Pavlichenko or the parents who went to jail for sending their kids to a better school district.
0 likesTHE FBI WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION
0 likes@Kyle Broussard ?
0 likes@Jess Pavlichenko what should happen to people who commit food stamp fraud and take away some of the money set aside for other poor families also struggling to eat?
0 likes@Marklithikk I want to
0 likesEXACTLY. Smoking weed is bad for YOU, but really only you. It doesn't harm anyone else. This doesn't mean you should do it, but tbh I would jail a murder over an addict any day.
0 likes@Marklithikk ICELAND!! Its one of the best, most safe countries! Let's all go together! It would be so much better, expect no Trump supporters allowed okay? :))
0 likesIt’s the lawyer... she got a lot of attention and news on it, meaning she got a good ass lawyer because it gives him publicity... no weed smoker gon have a good ass lawyer like that🤷🏻♂️
0 likesLet's be real, the criminal justice system is biased on unfair. She got away with murder and fraud. #Justice4Caylee
0 likesIn my country a brother killed his sister and went to jail for 6 years. A woman didn't pay her tax for a few years she went to prison for 15 years ...this world is upside down really.
1 like@Maria R Here in the U.S, our criminal justice system is biased on race, class, religion, ect. Let's be real, the system is broken.
0 likesIkr
0 likesYo did anyone question him at 57:48
2 likesI got so mad when her best friend started crying and she just said "wow it was a waste calling you". She has no empathy or remorse for other human beings.
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That was her mom. But yeah she’s so disrespectful to her mother it’s insane.
12 likes@Azalea no it’s was her friend it says right On the screen
57 likes@Zack Stanfield kinda weird that she would call her friend her mom… have you ever thought for a second that maybe her moms name is cindy? 🤣🤣🤣 use your brain for at least a second before you comment
0 likes@TIBS did you watch the video or are you just that slow? She called her mom first who gave the phone to her brother who then gave the phone to her best friend. “Use your brain for at least a second before you comment”
46 likes@TIBS 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
4 likesShe also has those empty eyes.
0 likesGuilty AF. She even said it like Chris Watts did when talking about her daughter before she was found in the past tense. Florida juries are wack.
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Uh, as a resident Floridian, I'm offended. It's pronounced Flori-duh🤤
11 likesIt's at 32:42. Used the word "had" and then tries to correct herself bus saying "and still has..."
12 likes@Noise Injection There is evidence. She lied about EVERYTHING. Not only did she lie, she didn't report her child missing when her child was laying in the woods in a trash bag. She made up the nanny for christ sakes. She partied while her daughter was missing. She didn't give a shit and all of that is evidence enough. The country got unlucky and we got a dumb jury. What happened is they just grabbed some random story(swimming pool) and used that for an excuse. Then the typical woman thing where you say your father raped you, because you are on trial for murder and she needs an excuse. ANYWAYS, she is lucky her defense lawyer was not an idiot.
15 likesLisa Simpson She sure did, I noticed that to.
1 likeDon’t get me started on how Florida’s courts are screwed up. Casey Anthony, George Zimmerman, etc. 🤮
3 likesLack of physical evidence.
2 likes@Sh3llShock Exactly. What does what her dad did to her as a teen have anything to do with the case? The defense lawyer brings it up, just after he gets done saying that emotion shouldn't be involved. She was caught in so many lies. Her google suffocation searches, partying while her child was missing, well you already said it all. This case goes beyond belief. If there are any morally motivated serial killers out there, the hit needs to be put out on Casey Anthony, you will be doing God's work, a lot better than our 'justice' system anyway.
0 likes@Kain Thomos What about the duct tape around the child's mouth and nose?
1 likeI mean, she obviously did it, but referring to her daughter in the past tense doesn't prove one way over the other, seeing as the defense was that she drowned in the pool and they hid the body. In both scenarios Casey Anthony would've already known she was dead
4 likes@linda ross There's no physical evidence
1 like@Superlative Yeah it does prove something. A person who doesn't know their kid is dead doesn't talk like that. In fact there's a video on youtube that shows Chris Watts news interview and shows all of the lying traits of a liar and that was one of em.
1 like@Lisa Simpson I'm saying that her defence was that her daughter died in a swimming pool and she was covering it up, in both scenarios she already knew she was dead when the interview happened. In that case it doesn't prove that she killed her
0 likes@Superlative Yeah I'm so sure...then WHY the duct tape over the toddler's mouth? NOT NECESSARY if the child was already DEAD.
2 likes@Lisa Simpson bruh, can you read? Her defences argument was that the daughter drowned in a swimming pool, her dad disposed of the body in the woods, and then Casey made up the kidnapping story.
0 likesThe Prosecution says she killed her daughter hid her in the woods and made up the kidnapping story
In BOTH scenarios she would've known already that she was dead, in BOTH scenarios she was lying therefore its not proof that she killed her daughter, because it both supports and doesn't support both arguments.
@Lisa Simpson I also quite clearly said that she obviously killed her, I'm just telling you why her using the past tense isn't proof
0 likes@Superlative And you are wrong. It's proof of a lie.
1 like@Superlative I can read. But you didn't address the duct tape over her mouth. Whats that needed for if she legit drowned?
0 likes@Lisa Simpson the duct tape has nothing to do with her using the past tense when referring to the daughter in the interview, it's entirely different evidence
0 likes@Lisa Simpson its proof of a lie, not proof she killed her
0 likes@RearAdmiralTootToot I really wish they asked her to take a polygraph. Even though it isn't admissible in court, and she could even say no, I think she lies so much that she would lie to herself that she could pass it and fail.
0 likes@Lisa Simpson you're really missing the point
1 like@part 3 People who are sexually abused as kids tend to go overboard in protecting any kids in their care. To me it simply came off like ANOTHER of her lies.
0 likesGeez the juries in Florida are just as bad as Australia!
0 likes"Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales". Geez, how fake can you get - it's like making up a lie about Italian guy called "Macaroni Pepperoni". The more suprising it is that it turned out that a person called Zenaida Gonzales does actually exist, but she never met Casey and had nothing to do with her family. She even sued Casey for damages, as supposedly after Casey threw that name in her case, she got death threats and lost her job and apartment.
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Even worse! The judge tossed out the defamation lawsuits because Anthony’s statements “were not intended to hurt Gonzales and weren’t malicious.” Poor woman
128 likesHehe macaroni pepperoni
44 likes@Savannah McCool LMFAOOO
3 likesThose surnames are real, except Gonzales should be Gonzalez (at least in my country)
2 likes@Savannah McCool mccool hehe
1 likeThere was a real woman in the Orlando area with that name who had to be brought in, who obviously had no f'ing clue wth was going on.
11 likesI just still cannot believe she was found innocent. I never saw the media stuff when it happened because I worked too much, but even just learning all this in court, there is no way I'd find reasonable doubt. They'd have to mistrial because no way. They had to have been bribed or threatened.
Well Mr Macaroni Pepperoni probably exist too
1 like@oussama t EZ
0 likeshow is this comment liked lol it’s actually a great fake name
1 like@Alro Ma son reales, sí, pero para inventarse una persona son muy estereotipicos xd
2 likesScariest thumbnail ever
1 likeCan’t even get through 20 minutes without being so enraged the fact the she didn’t get convicted is an outrage.
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The prosecutor's office overplayed their hand. They had a slam dunk case and messed it up. The coroner's report was inconclusive on the cause of death.
15 likesPeople get years in jail for minor drug crimes, She killed a child and didn't even get probation or a fine.
55 likesThe system isn't broken at all.
@foxtailedcritter
7 likesThis is not evidence of a "broken system." It worked the way it was designed. The prosecution has once chance to make its case and if they mess up--as here--then they lose.
People get away with murder.... It happens.
14 likesThe old adage of letting 10 guilty to free instead of imprisoning one innocent.
People forget that this results in 10 murderers walking the streets.... By design.
Multiple witness saying the boot smelled like a corpse, honestly curious if they bothered to check for any DNA evidence. Not every day a child gets inside a boot.
7 likes@foxtailedcritter the defense surely acknowledged the death and the body in the trunk...
2 likesThey said it was accidentally drowning, and then panic and a cascade of poor decisions afterwards.
The prosecution put all their eggs in the "party girl just wanted to party, haven't we all been there amiright!?" Approach.... And forgot to do the rest of the work
@Keldon McFarland It's definitely a broken system. If this woman was poor, she would have been found guilty. The US is only 4% of the world's population but we have MORE prisons than ALL countries COMBINED!! More than half of all prisoners are held in filthy cages for non violent, victimless crimes. Modern day slavery that preys on the poor of society and to keep the rich man's pockets nice and fat. Follow the money.
15 likesCan they re-open the case? This is so unfair
4 likesWell said. It's unbearable.
1 like@JASON VOORHEES “She got caught in the act of lying about previous work, previous colleagues, and a made up nanny, she waited a whole month before reporting her daughter missing, had google searched a "foolproof" suffocation technique, had a trunk that smelled of a decomposing body, the detectives found her daughters body less than a mile from the house that she lives in, and she was still found not guilty” - AJ’s Outdoors. Her child had been missing for 5 weeks and she still would not call the police and probably never would have if it wasnt for her worried mother that had just found out about it. You are ridiculous if u think she had nothing to do with it.
7 likes@Keldon McFarland prison count is not the same thing as inmate count. (I'm not sure Teresa is correct on either point, by the way).
7 likesSo you missed the point.
And privatizing the prison system is literally her point.
Lots of people make lots of money from US prisons. They employ many people and many tax dollars are both generated and consumed by it.
The system is too big to fail, so they have to keep rounding people up.
Bragging about being a wealthy enough nation to imprison as many as you do for non violent crimes... Isn't really a brag. Btw.
I'm going to take a wild guess... You're not poor, underprivileged or undereducated... So you're a fan of the system staying just the way it is ?
Edit: but to your point. Building prisons and staffing them is expensive ... Which is why many other countries have outrageous over population and over crowding in their prisons.... So that part of your political leaning spiel was accurate. Wealth does play a role in keeping the sheer number of prisons up and running.
@juui lmo
1 likeNo. She was acquitted on all of the big charges and the smaller charges she was convicted of were overturned. The prosecution only gets one chance.
@Teresa Lynn
2 likesAlso, what are you talking about? The Anthony family was far from being rich. They were lower middle class.
Karma will get her, believe that
0 likesJASON VOORHEES of course there is evidence
0 likes@JASON VOORHEES Yeah, she accidentaly searched for stuff like "drowned girl" and "suffocation" on Google. Pure coincidence. Please...
1 likeShe didn’t get convicted because they charged her with first degree with no proof beyond a reasonable doubt of premeditation. If they did second degree or manslaughter I’m sure she would have been convicted. The jury doesn’t think she’s innocent there’s just no strong evidence of premeditation.
0 likes@drebk Not to mention, if you look at other wealthy countries like Sweden, Germany, Netherlands and so on, they have such low prisoner numbers they actually have closed prisons and converted them into office spaces and such. So 'The US is wealthy' has nothing to do with our prison count. Plus, our prisons are extremely over crowded as it is. The more you can pack in, the more you can profit.
0 likesDude they had enough for a guilty verdict but they went for the death penalty. The jury just wasn’t willing to decide to kill this woman. If they had went for life in prison I guarantee there would’ve been a guilty verdict!
2 likes@SUNBURST ah no, "Dude" that wasnt it at all. She was up for 1st degree murder and the jury felt it was 2nd (not pre-meditated) so thats why they didnt convict. It had nothing to do with the sentence. The jurors interviewed stated if 2nd degree murder was on the table, they wouldve convicted her. The prosecution f'd up... kinda like you did posting your incorrect "facts"
0 likes@juui lmo Unless they find an exception to the Double Jeopardy rule, (like mistake of fact, trial / conviction overturned, other related charges) most likely no. This is why you DO not go full out on a circumstantial case. Prosecutor shouldve thrown 2nd degree murder as an option. They got cocky and didnt.
0 likesWell, I wouldve voted the same way - I dont know if she killed her, or did so after the incident. Prosecutor shouldve charged 2nd degree murder as well. There is no limit to what they can charge you with. Its just a matter of acquittal vs. conviction
0 likes@Seth
0 likes^🙄Yaaaaaaawn
It really sucks that prosecution overplayed their hand and that’s why she walked what a sad reality of the justice system.
0 likesKeldon McFarland damn you sure destroyed my argument😂 try again
0 likesWho doesn't call the police immediately after losing a 3 year old child? That's enough for me to think that she's not innocent.
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Yes, completely agree! There should be a law against not calling right away!
4 likesYeah and lots of people suspected her in the beginning because of that, she was pinned as the prime suspect right away and all that stuff examined heavily on news shows like Nancy Grace
3 likes@Mary Ray Of course they are Naive, what parents wants to beleive their child is lying and actually murdered their grandchild.
3 likes@Mary Ray They're either naive, or at least narcissistic themselves. In this case, they probably didn't want their daughter to get in trouble with the law.
0 likes“She’s so Lucky that she had you guys... still has you guys”
511 likesHow in the world anybody saw her to be innocent is crazy
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yeah was talking of her on the past tense because she knew she was already gone.......obviously her parents are terrible enablers, always have been and ended up continuing the pattern even in this.
40 likesIt fits her defense though.
0 likesShe actually said "that she's had both of you" as in HAS HAD... still suspicious because it's so passive... but not quite as much of a dead giveaway as past tense. She's too used to telling lies as truth to make that big of a mistake... Her mistakes are much more subtle
11 likesI wonder what the jury thinks now, if they know they were manipulated and believed a picture that was painted for them that turned out to be totally false. I wonder if anyone has any regrets on not being able to see through all the lies because I sure would. Has to be obvious to all now that they screwed up. I wish the prosecution had the same skill for getting the jury to see their side of things as the skeevy defense did. Thanks to them a child killer is out there somewhere living it up just like she was days after Caylee first went missing. I'm sure there were plenty of hot body contests for her to lose when she got out. Also could be false but I hear that shes considering having another baby, with the guy who was lead investigator on her legal defense team? oh hell to the nah, somebody keep all the duct tape away from her if that ever happens.
2 likesIts not that they saw her innocent the state could not prove her guilt but yes i agree she is guilty for the death of her child
4 likesThey’re the reason for her doing what she did..
2 likes@sal H you are hilarious. please be my friend bc you, friend, are seriously witty. That defense attorney probably studied psychology really hard bc i too was sure of her guilt until he spoke.
0 likesN Day exactly. They probably all believe she murdered her child, they just couldn’t prove it with the States lack of evidence. Casey callousness was so puzzling they couldn’t get there without any kind of confession.
0 likesyes the prosecution laid out a bunch of facts that any sane person could follow to the writing on the wall but obviously the defense attorney knew the things that the jury would look at in this case and think "guilty" and was able to think up some story or kind of explain away all these weird facts like how she didnt call the cops for 30 days. Hence the "her father molested her" opening to make her more believable and sympathetic. He knew what they would think before they did and was able to twist the narrative to his advantage to sway those thoughts. Casey Anthony herself was pretty good at this too. The prosecution lacked this manipulation and foresight and would probably have been a different verdict if that werent the case.
1 likeIt is a damn crime that this psychopath got away with murder of a baby.
1 like@sal H The Prosecutor can't tell you what happened to Caylee Anthony. They don't know how she actually died, they can't tell you whether or not it was even a murder.
0 likes@sal H I mean, she's off the charts... nothing she says bears any relevance to reality yet everyone talks to her like she's talking sense. I don't get it.
0 likes@N Day Um, so the prosecution failed to prove that Caylee didn't wrap her self up, stuff herself into a bag, smother herself with duck tape, being sure to stink up the car first before being dumped in the woods? Nah. Jury fell for a 'slick schicht', which is sad, pathetic, and quite frankly, Deja-Moo... when you've heard this bullsh!t before... or after as the case may be. Makes me sick.
1 likeOh, and they forgot that Daddy and Bro Weren't the ones On Trial. Gggrr....
people make slips of the tongue all the time...freuds ridiculous and branding someone guilty bc they misspoke is inane. that being said, she was fuckin guilty
0 likesI never saw her innocent. I questioned her guilt a LITTLE, But this is FAR more telling than what was available to see back when it was going on. it leaves ZERO doubt.
0 likes@mrbadguysan Um, so the prosecution failed to prove that Caylee didn't wrap her self up, stuff herself into a bag, smother herself with duck tape, being sure to stink up the car first before being dumped in the woods? Nah. Jury fell for a 'slick schicht', which is sad, pathetic, and quite frankly, Deja-Moo... when you've heard this bullsh!t before... or after as the case may be. Makes me sick.
0 likesOh, and they forgot that Daddy and Bro Weren't the ones On Trial. Gggrr....
After watching footage of the likes of Casey, Diane Downs, Ted Bundy, etc., Ive become skeptical of charming ppl. The more charming they are, the more cautious I am to befriend em.
0 likes@Jake Welch Not at all. Because someone treats you in a certain way, doesn't make you a monster.
0 likes@sal H imagine their agonizing regret in thinking they were doing all the right things, or were on the fence about a situation & realize they should have gone the tough love way...just like every devoted parent. We parents have a tendency to let things go & don't know how off the rails their child has gone til its a nightmare. Especially if you have a beautiful, charming, intelligent child and/or a sociopath. Im sure her other family & friends didnt see her psychopathology either. // a fact I just learned: a sociopath is created. A psychopath is born. Thought you'd be interested. :).
0 likesHow incredibly difficult it must be to see, let alone have to accept, that your own child is a psychopath and murderer, let alone that your grandbaby was murdered at the same time...by your own child, to boot.
2 likes@sal H You're absolutely right. for Kimmy to say the defense attorney studied psychology really well, comes as a joke to me. Just because one person have experienced bad things in the past, doesn't make it easier when a WORSE problem comes a long. NOBODY will go to a hot body contest three days after their child is missing. ONLY if they do NOT care about the child. I have similar experiences in my past just like Casey have. It's a bad comparsion to say because she was used as a child, she wont feel pain.
0 likesi studied every single word and second there was said in this video, not for one second Casey was sad that she's lost her child.
Kimmy, I can tell you one thing, and that is you've never studied psychology.
I'll bet my life that Casey is guilty. I'll take any bet. She is guilty. A sociopath at is finest.
Nice tattoo she got btw. Seems pretty normal, "My beautiful life". Instead of "Rip Caylee, my beautiful angel"
@sal H Im sure the jurors who got it wrong will be agonizing over this the rest of their days...just for being dutiful Americans, while the murderer goes free. Shame on the defense. Her Father realized his daughter is a psychopath & murderer at the same time he found out his grandbaby was murdered & he'll never see her again. And he was accused of raping his daughter. Surreal.
0 likes@sal H I hope the idiot jury members regret their decision for the rest of their lives! It's insane that she wasn't convicted
0 likes@Get Offended I agree with you! 100 percent!
0 likesIf she drowned in the pool why was there ducttape on her mouth and suffocating in her search history bruh wtf
0 likesHow did she make names from the top of her head
0 likesCasey Anthony probably listens to this and takes notes on where she needs to improve her game.
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I don't know how they let that crap admitted in court its bizarre
104 likesR Galley lol
6 likes@Dubz 2020 😂 Right, right, innocent 😉🙄
7 likesShe fortunately doesn’t have anymore kids to murder. I wouldn’t have been surprised to hear that she had her tubes tied after this.
28 likes@Dubz 2020 Kindly present your Case for the Defence... We're all eyes 👀
1 likeI'm 100% sure she has or will watch this video for this exact purpose.
16 likesAglet Knight she was innocent
0 likes@Aglet Knight Here's the thing though. As much as it sucks that legal justice wasn't obtained for Caylee, the social death that Casey is exacting now is far beyond any prison sentence. The woman can't even leave her damn house. She wanted to do photography but who is going to hire someone who is like the Diane Downs of her generation? Even though legally she can go places, she can't go anywhere without drawing unwanted attention and scrutiny. People detest criminals especially the ones that hurt kids. That goes double for the ones who are parents.
18 likesShe got one over on the PATRIARCHY!!!!!!!
5 likes@heather renae strigens wtf do you mean by that?
2 likes999th like, oooooooohhhh exciting
1 likeOh I'm certain she googles her name every two months
6 likesHmmmm...
0 likesYEAH
@MercuryFever just read an article about her and apparently she wants kids now... YIKES...
12 likesYes
0 likesHopefully she reads the comments, if that’s the case.
4 likesIt's so disgusting to think she actually watches these videos...
5 likesBRUH LMAO
1 likenah she said she doesn't care what people think of her. she said she sleeps well at night. its gross
4 likesYeah she's crazy good at improv'ing random fake stories and people, but useless when this trail of lies actually gets followed up on and investigated. Like she says the most preposterous and easily discredited shit, but when just talking to average people without controversy surrounding you, her quick pathological lying skills are honed af.
2 likesIf she now proceeded to actually practice making the content of those lies stand up to scrutiny and investigation, she'd be unbeatable, but the latter is a lot more difficult than the former; actually making the big webs of lies all check out or be impossible to disprove.
Or, she probably reads these comments and take notes on how she is going to exact her revenge on all the commenters.
0 likesShe’s a textbook narcissist... meaning she doesn’t think her “game” needs improving.
3 likesNo,she will just use the same lawyer and pay everyone off again.
0 likes1:24
0 likesBut why show a pic of Alanis Morrisette?
how did she get away with it
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Good lawyer. Jury could have been paid also. It's absolutely insane.
0 likesIf you look at that clip of her parents visiting her in jail, she refers to her daughter in past tense and then corrects herself several times.
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Yes I found that my so weird like and none of her parents seemed to notice
19 likes@LIZ ASMR They did, they even started crying, I think, precisely for that reason.
42 likesThe way she spoke about Caylee in past tense then corrected herself immediately speaks volumes
3190 likesEDIT was unaware I messed up the names so I fixed them
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U mean Caylee
74 likesYeah that's always a huge red flag that is not picked up on a lot in cases like this. But looking back we now know Casey new for sure she was dead. I think personally it was accident, she gave her to much xanax. Xanny the nanny did exist just in tablet form. She was jealous of Caylee that's known, which is strange but not for sure a murderer. The fact little Caylee was found a quarter mile from the house, that would be sure to be searched when water in that part of FL went down. And that it took several calls, something don't add up about how Caylee was found. And it's not the actions of a pre medicated murder. If I planned to kill someone, I'd plan it from start to finish including making sure the body is unlikely found. Not leave above ground up the road. That might tigh in with the accident & panicked theory, as the chloroform theory is ridiculous, that Casey had the skills & ability to make it first , give it to Caylee in a house they shared with her parents. It's clear now lookin back she knew from day one. And listening to her description of what she first said happened, there's a grudging respect for the performance, but also baffled she thought it wouldn't all be checked out. Personally I think if she'd had experience with law enforcement before she'd have played it way differently.
51 likes@Deckard Cain yes, I accidentally mixed it up.
15 likesMinute?
3 likes@Oliver 29:34
19 likesOh it does??
0 likes@James Melton she’s referring to her in past tense as if she’s already long gone. No mother would dare think of their child being dead, it’s the last thing imaginable.
27 likesI just saw that... At the same time when she does that.. watch the mom... Even though the father is on the phone at that time when she refers to Caylee in the past tense.. her mom immediately puts her hand on her mouth. And that's the only time she cries ( the mom ). She knew then that her daughter killed her. But watch the mother's hands in that moment
15 likes@Kevin Scalzo this gave me chills. Having to discover that your daughter did that to your grand daughter. And it was all given away by one sentence.
12 likesAlso if you notice she says they’ve BEEN the best grandparents….. hmmm
3 likesYes.. it's a scary revelation. And I remember back at that time if my memory serves me correctly when I was following this when it happened everybody was bashing the parents... I remember back then kind of getting on that bandwagon but when you look back and you look at this footage you can tell right when she said that her mother knew it's the only time her mother shows real raw emotion about really considering and knowing oh my God my daughter did this... Couldn't imagine
8 likes@Rach_xx idk...the issue for me is the duck tape over the nose and mouth....how does that happen?? i'm not trashing the xanex theory, but the duck tape man...
2 likes@mia ijo Then maybe edit your comment to correct your mistake about writing “Casey” instead of “Caylee” in your original comment.
0 likes@Robin Hede I honestly had no idea I could edit my comment I’ll do that rn
0 likes@mia ijo no problem
0 likesLol!!! You rly think ur comment on a YouTube vid is that important hahahahaha
0 likes@Scarbz Bro chill out, don’t be disrespectful they are just voicing their own opinion.
4 likes@Scarbz some people were letting me know I mixed up the names so it only felt right to explain and fix it. nothing else really.
3 likes@SayoSweeti usually duck tape over those certain areas indicates someone knew the victim and the killer
1 likeis uncomfortable with what they did.
It indicates but but not always legit in every case.
Plus less than 5 mins into the video she claims she talk to Caylee the day the grand mother called 911.
Casey has no problem having others even family take the blame even if it means she gets to walk free. She let her attorney blame her father for the death of Caylee.
While blaming another family member doesn’t mean murder it shows she’s willing to throw family under the bus.
Another thing is reports Casey never wanted to have Caylee. She was pregnant and her mother pressured her to keeping the child she didn’t want.
Again she could of eventually learned to love and appreciate her daughter but it doesn’t look good when she writes in her diary that she is free, happy, and she makes up stories that her deceased daughter is kidnapped as if that a better alternative
That is telling she figures being a bad neglectful parent is better than the another alternative which is killer. If she was innocent then that’s a disturbed mindset would at least would contribute to her daughters death by neglect and not caring. So yes she is at least guilty of indirect manslaughter due to not even alerting police of a non guardian is holding her child captive
@Rach_xx Hopefully your sleeping pattern is better, though and you're not anxious over this. (edit: it's easy to overthink this & try & maybe find something which is more palatable than what may have happened which is she wanted a quick way to be rid of something she saw as an annoying problem rather than an infant with a life of her own & the person most responsible for protecting her, the person the child trusted more than anything, killed her. But I agree: it's a vile thing to do. We hope it wasn't the way it seems but if I've learned anything in my long life 'tis that monsters exist in more than our imagination.....)
2 likes@Therese Christiansen Thanks. Yeah a bit, my god I've just struggled to understand some of my own comment. I find it impossible to understand why anyone would hurt a child. I mean if you don't wanna take care of them, family would. Or that little girl would've been adopted no problem. I do think that everything does point more towards accidental than planned. But even if that's true that's still manslaughter she'd have been looking at at least 20 yrs, poss longer with it being a child. I honestly doubt she'd have lasted 20 yrs in prison. If she did it would be cos she was in PC the whole time. And that would be a long hard 20 yrs. It's time she just came out & said what happened, they couldn't take her back to court either way. And I'm not sure she could be more hated. I can't help but admire Jose Biaz he sure knows what he's doing as a defense lawyer. But there was no evidence at all it was drowing. So I don't get how she didn't get at the very least child neglect leading to death. After not reporting it for over a month, but I think its something really only Casey knows, & it will likely stay that way.
0 likesthis is exactly what i’ve been thinking and saying
0 likesSometimes people confuse the tenses or it is their normal way of speaking. I have noticed with my time in the States that many Southerners will talk in the past tense- even if they are talking about the present. 'So, we was all here and waiting for you to show up. Now that you're here, we can do xyz...' just as an example.
0 likesReferring to somebody in the past tense doesn't mean anything, especially if it is normal speech patterns in the location. However, investigators will definitely take note of it.
No need to explain yourself
0 likes100%. It's all in the pronouns. She picked herself up with so much chaff and misdirect.
0 likesSociopath
I picked that up too, it was so weird bruh
0 likesWhy do all the crazy ones gotta be so damn fine
0 likesHow can the jury believe she drowned in a pool if they found her mouth and nose covered in duct tape?
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Yeah just makes no sense
54 likesTim Taylor's attempt at CPR?
11 likesThey claimed her dad was in on it, he supposedly had part in her disappearence as well yet they never was forced to answer that unasked question...what did your dad do with Caley after she drowned. I watched the trial from beginning to end, I watched was so confused , I almost believed Casey's story... Maybe I still do
9 likesThe search history doesn’t add up too, this whole thing is a joke
69 likes@lee wan yeah, that and her diary seemed accountable as evidence to me.
32 likesFear, peer pressure, wanting to get it over with. Watch 12 angry old men,
6 likesI agree. There's a big part missing here. That whole defense came out of nowhere with no real explanation. I think to get better answers it would be good to watch the case itself.
8 likesyeah that bit doesnt line up. there was ABSOLUTELY foul play so why the defence would suggest that she died in an accident seems crazy
10 likesRachel Cole That just means the attorneys did a good job. That is what they are paid to do. Create confusion, division, and reasonable doubt.
27 likesthey do not, they just don't know for sure she killed the baby
1 likeThe state could not prove that Casey was the one to put the duct tape around her mouth and placed her there.
3 likesJoss claimed she drowned in the pool but then to cover up the drowning, they did the unthinkable. It was a strategically and brilliantly way to create doubt in the jurors mind on if Casey ACTUALLY murdered Kaylee. All the state had was speculation at best. They could have got a conviction if they didn’t already assume they would have won.
First if all the body had decomposed..so there was no nose. Second The body was found in a local dump site for trash. The duct tape itself was NOT looped. No DNA of her on the body. No time of death. Just a bunch of little lies to her parents and cops.
2 likes@Gabriel Velazquez There are certain cases that no amount of money in the world could get me to defend someone. Job or not. I guess this is one of the reasons why attorneys are hated.
5 likesAmerican
2 likesIt doesn’t (shouldn’t) matter what they “believe”. The burden of proof is on the prosecution. They have to prove that the woman murdered her daughter beyond any doubt. It’s called “innocent until proven guilty”. The defense attorney in this case was at an elite level. I wasn’t there, and I certainly didn’t hear all of the evidence presented against the defendant, but the prosecution was simply outclassed. Btw, there is no perfect justice system.
6 likesShe would have only had to convince one juror....
3 likesJonathan Fides i was told that she was found in a garbage bag in the woods tho
1 like@Cursed with Curiosity there is a word for that: gullible
3 likesFelicia McCarron Because he wasn’t involved at all
0 likesNot only that , the opening and closing statement from the defense contradict themselves , Defense opening S : She'd Died Drowning ( as in we know how she died) Now Closing S : No One Knows ( Not even Me) how she died thus you can't make a decision?!? . Jury ate it all up
4 likesCasey and her creepy lawyer found a loophole
3 likes@Kayla Webb it was a small wooded swampy area right by a school that was partially underwater (shallow) at a certain time of year, every year. . People would put trash in that place. She was found in a bag wrapped in a blanket. The skull cap rollId out of that bag. As for the other bones found outside of the bag and blanket were spread by animal and insect activity It was either murder or a cover up for an accident. If you cant prove it was one or the other then you (shouldnt) cant be convicted. They couldn't even prove it was her either.
2 likes@Madyson Reed that's not a loophole.
1 like@agentxyz far from gullible, I just think there may be a chance the dad may have had a part in this somehow. . I lean towards Casey's guilt more, I only believe maybe 2% there's a chance otherwise
0 likesStupidest Jury ever. I mean freaking duct tape? WTF People?
3 likesnessaboomommy09 was there any forensic evidence she had drowned? I thought the cause of death was caused by suffocation hence the duct tape.... I know forensic science can prove that she died from drowning vs being suffocated and then thrown in water after death.
1 likeJury was filled with SIMPS
2 likesIf she was a man she would be in jail right now and not free.
5 likes@teli It's just "12 angry men". I guess you heard the phrase "old white man" or something to that extent one too many times. ;)
0 likesIt's Florida.......
0 likesThat's the judicial system for ya!!!!
0 likes@Gabriel Velazquez in Florida they could've gotten a blind, deaf and dumb person to defend her and she still would've beaten the case.
0 likesCasey kept her happiness and now...Liv'n La Vida Loca!
0 likes@L M If it was a man he wouldnt have had custody in the first place
2 likes@Cursed with Curiosity Rubbish she is lier. Kid gone missing for a month and then she makes up claims that nanny kidnapped her. She killed her because she wanted a party life and she couldn't with her daughter in the way.
3 likes@Felicia McCarron the remains were found 5 months later after animals and such had gotten to it. Probably wasnt enough "body" left to determine cause of death.
0 likes@Games Until Dawn That's the whole issue. It's not up to the defense to provide answers. The prosecution is supposed to prove it in court. To be honest though, I think the defense attorney swayed them with his words.
1 likeKayla Webb She was. Just down the road from the grandparents home. In their most recent interview they go there with cameras and it shows it’s a wooded area right off the road. There was no dump from what I could see.
0 likes@Liam Sanchez goes to Vegas yea but not guilt of neglet of a child and manslaughter wheres the sense in a not guilty verdict in that...
0 likes@LegenDarius Yeah, I get it. It just sucks that certain people will get defended despite being guilty in my opinion. I understand that attorneys like this are very necessary for people that are actually innocent. I would have to believe the person 100% to defend them if it was me. Guess that's why I'm not a lawyer. I feel like the parents knew the daughter was guilty, but didn't want her to get the death sentence. Which, as a parent I understand. But, I think that played a big part in the outcome. And it's painful to see things she's said years later.
0 likes@Legendary Detective Wobbuffet to be frank the diary could go either way. she couldve made the right choice of hiding the body after it had drowned. although I suppose the "happy" part contradicts that...
0 likes@Cursed with Curiosity Unfortunately, confusion often leads to acquittal. that was the whole intent of her defense attorney.
1 likeI don't even think the defense attorney believed it. In his closing statements he said that no one could prove how she died, directly contradicting this statement. It was likely just said to sow the seeds of doubt in an otherwise airtight explanation that only a guilty person would wait to tell the police and show so much nonchalance when they did.
0 likesMakes no sense at all. Same with the Christian Andreacchio case. Its unbelievable how stupid people can be!
0 likes@Felicia McCarron Statute of limitations for crimes like that. He was accused of molesting her like fifteen years ago, from the trial. Very few crimes do not have a statute of limitations, murder is one.
0 likesThe movie Let's Go To Prison will explain why ANY AND ALL CONVICTS dread the simple words, "trail by jury."
1 likePaul Heaton I don’t know. I didn’t hear any of the evidence, or arguments presented by either side on those charges.
0 likes@D Po could have gone either way, yes, but that's the point of evidence and both prosecution and defence.
0 likesI also realized this video never gave any account of the father.
@Felicia McCarron no she was too decomposed to see. If you cant check lungs for water because they are decomposed, then cause if death couldnt be determined.
0 likesLegendary Detective Wobbuffet It’s a criminal psychology study on Casey Anthony. The only reason the included her dad at all was because it was testimony that was revealing about Casey Anthony. I’m sure you could find the footage of that testimony. (No offense intended, just trying to help 😁👍🏼!
0 likesThis is better than most movies these days.
0 likesdaammnnn that lawyer was good!
0 likesIf ur brother doesn't trust you .. then you are the problem
0 likesShe didn't want to be a mom. That journal entry should tell you. People have kids at a young age and can't accept the fact that all the partying and freedom is gone. Your life is now dedicated to another. I think one of the saddest things about this is that her grandparents would have taken that baby girl and raised her as their own, happily. It was obvious they were the ones who loved her, who loved being grandparents. Rest in peace Caylee. Holding my son extra tight tonight.
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She’d never give her to grandma. She hated her mom, her mom made her have the child. She doesn’t want her but her her mom would never get her. The more love the little girl got, the more she hated her mom. She may kill the little girl to hurt her mom. As always, her mom let her get away with it.
41 likesIt's clearly more than that though, because if that were the only thing at play, she could've handed over Caylee to her grandparents, and if that didn't work, she could've given her up for adoption. Those would be the obvious first two choices even from a purely logical perspective, because those things would be easier than going through all the effort to kill her, make up all these lies, and go through the trial
4 likes@Abigail Marshall it's possible that the grandparents would not take the victim because they wanted the mother to raise her herself as punishment for getting pregnant.
7 likes@Rebecca Lind 👀 whaat 🤯
0 likesSwear! Your right.
You don't have to accept that fact if you're a dad, cause dad's get to run off if they pay the child raising fee. Mom's can run off too if they're not too stupid to know what adoption is. There's so many options available that that's not really an excuse to be to young cause you don't have to raise the kid legally if you aren't ready.
1 likeI think she didn't give her to them cause in her mind she was going to look like a bad mother giving the baby girl to them, and I'm sure as hell she is a narcissist so she wouldn't want no one to look down on her, that's why she didn't want media attention, everyone was going go look down on her, and we all still are.
3 likes@Abigail Marshall agreed ma'am, it was definitely more. I think her narcissistic personality paired with her spoiled, no consequences upbringing was enough to push her to the extreme. At any rate, some sort of mental deficiency or abnormality was at play too.
2 likes@chill B. If you don't think it's easier for a man to get away with not fathering their children you're ignoring biological reality. There's never any question if a baby is the mothers. The potential dad can just say the baby isn't theirs, and if proven wrong he may be forced to pay child support, but there is no law on the books that physically changed him to his daughter's ankle and says that he has to be a part of her life no matter what. It's a reality of society that the vast majority of single parents are women. It's a reality of society that it's easier for a man to not have the burden of raising a child. It's even partially a biological reality since women have the disadvantage of the baby physically growing inside of them. That gives the man a whole 9 months of extra time to escape to Jamaica and started new life as a humble wealthy sugar cane farmer. There is also a stronger social expectation placed on women to raise their children. Going to pretend things that I could throw thousands of statistics about at you is simply being basic statistical facts and pretend they don't exist? Going to pretend that men raise children equally as often?
6 likes@Fang
0 likesYuck
I removed some of my comment because there are too many contradiction. I D K what I can believe anymore.
0 likes@chill B.
0 likesIt was not a question. It was simply.... what it was. I was talking to you. I did not read anything else but your main comment on top. Also, I was reffering to this particular part:
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I think one of the saddest things about this is that her grandparents would have taken that baby girl and raised her as their own, happily.
Another question?
Casey father's name is George.
0 likesSad circumstances, but that last sentence warmed my heart. I hope 2021 is happy for you and your son
3 likesIt really is a tragedy. Very sad
0 likesThe whole family were in on it. The grandparents, her brother and sister, the boyfriend, and of course Casey went along with it all. She just became the scapegoat because the family never wanted Casey to begin with she was treated the worst of all the children. Saddest part of it all was Caylee was actually the child of Casey's father. Incestuous DNA tests are the least definitive when it comes to determining whether the father or brother could be the child's biological father. The DNA tests will always show that the father and brother are 1st relatives to the child but it doesn't prove definitively that the father or brother are the biological father
0 likes@Ryan what even more sad is the incomprehension people are stuck in, relating to this case, and maybe the real story will never be officially disclosed publicly.
0 likes@Sardonicus about 20% of dads have their baby mamas skip town, it's lopsided but not one-sided.
0 likesTalk about things being ignored 20% is quite a bit to ignore
Shes blowin' her lawyer for room and board.
1 likeRevisiting this a year later to say damn, the way this woman speaks to her mother. You can tell these parents were permissive as all hell, probably never punished her for anything. Absolutely cannot imagine talking to anyone I respect even a little bit like that.
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Viktor Gonzalez?
3 likesLiterally murdered and still goes unpunished. It's not just her parents that failed her, the entire system did.
23 likes@ELFanatic people don’t just become like this because their parents were too easy on them, there was probably always something wrong with her. Although I guess her upbringing enabled it, but when a child is like that idk what can be done
5 likesDaddy said he wished he was a better parent. He’s taking some of the blame by that statement.
0 likes@G M well for one you don’t beg your disturbed daughter to keep a pregnancy that she wants to get rid of
0 likesThe system failed in this case soooo hard. At a minimum, the number of non-existent people she so casually name drops should have been the CLEAR sign after divulging the truth. There's no reason she should have ever walked away from this case unscathed
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Exactly!!! Let's say, hypothetically, she didn't kill her child... Then why the fuck did she make those elaborate stories when asked? Why were all the family and friends worried for the kid but not her?
13 likesHer not calling the police 31 DAYS after the child went missing should count as some form of abuse. She had to GET ARRESTED AT LEAST FOR ABUSE AND NEGLECT.
It’s crazy man. Those jurors effed up
2 likesReasons I think she killed her daughter for:
262 likes- jealous of the attention her parents gave to Caylee
- to see how far her lies could go. Like a twisted challenge in which she escapes sentencing.
- she didn’t want to be a mum anymore and is authentically an empathetic-less monster
None of these reasons are valid obviously. And it’s ridiculous she got away with this.
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Third one I belive so much
10 likes29:44 is the best example of the first reason
7 likesPersonally, I think she overdosed her daughter on Xanax, kept the body in the trunk of her car until she could think of a “decent” excuse for how she died, then she created the “Zanny the nanny” kidnapping story, covered her daughter’s mouth with duct tape (embellished with a heart sticker for dramatic effect iirc) before disposing of the body. During this time she realised how freeing it was to not be a mother anymore and started living the life she wanted (provided the Xanax overdose wasn’t premeditated).
24 likes@The Archworks agreed
0 likesIt reminds me of Dostoevsky’s novel “Crime and Punishment,” in which he basically does a deep dive into criminal psychology and the weird, seemingly nonsensical motivations that a person can have for doing something so terrible. The difference is, Dostoevsky’s character experiences emotions, guilt even, and learns over the course of the story. This woman appears to have none.
1 likeEmpathetic-less? Is that the phrase you chose? May I suggest "devoid of empathy".
0 likesThe third reason is what a lot of people would call obvious but it's apparent that she could have easily just left her child with her parents and left for good but instead, she went the route of murder. There seems to be a sense of hatred that she had for her daughter. Like actual hatred not just inconvenience.
2 likesit was so clear how jealous she was of the lil calley cuz she kinda took her place u can see that over the phone call with her parents
0 likes@J Hemphill It's not a school essay. It's a YouTube comment. I think we got their point.
2 likes@SAMBO I'll never understand the mind of an apologist like you. Bad habits must be discouraged lest they become ingrained.
1 like@J Hemphill I agree, but there is a time and a place. I would've focused more on the context of the comment, rather than pointing out lazy phraseology.
1 like@Musical Box 100 % huh? Doesn't explain the duct tape, at all actually. Also, why the search on suffocation then?
0 likesnot valid reasons? so what is a valid reason to murder your own child
0 likes@eViL jEsuS I don’t mean there are valid reason I just mentioned that to not make it seem like I’m validating her crime by giving it a reason.
1 likeSuper disgusting how the defense managed to make out victims of moleststion as lying their whole lives. Icky defense tactics overall. But that’s a whole other story & paragraph.
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And then he has the audacity to criticize the prosecution's tactic of playing on the jury's emotions.
16 likesYeah it’s shocking to me that his defense worked. It just seemed like he was playing every last emotional card he had during his closing statements, and I guess it got to the jury
8 likesThis actually really pissed me off, you could tell that was a whole bunch of bullshit. I'm normally one to believe victims but in this case you can tell it was Bs for sure
0 likesThis just goes to show how twisted life can get when people get away with lying all the time and successfully avoiding the consequences of their actions
93 likesHoly shit, hearing Christina talk to her on the phone and Casey completely disregarding her concern for CASEYS DAUGHTER and say "wow calling you guys was a huge waste" like how can a human being be that heartless
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Hopefully Christina unfriended her after all this.
0 likesI watched this entire trial on TV when I was very young, I'm only 26 now. I remember being SO disgusted when they let her go and said she wasn't guilty. Wow.
23 likesI hope her attorneys feel guilty every single day that they are the reason she walks free. She was 100% guilty
73 likesIt’s sad that the one time she should have faced consequences for her actions, she didn’t. She’s gone her whole life, even committing the most atrocious crime you could, without facing any repercussions.
3 likesI have a long life time friend who is very similar to Casey. I worry every day about her and every day I worry about her child. I think watching this helps me in a morbid way to see the signs.
19 likesAs far as I can tell she isn't as bad, and does care about and love her child... but she displays behavior like this sometimes (Casey at her worst) and has a history of seriously inane lies and selfish behavior.
There's nothing legally I can do and very few options but watching this makes me feel like asking if anyone has resources about this stuff or that could be helpful for people who worry about this stuff.
Short of violently doing my best to shake chains and getting myself kicked out of my nieces life all I can do is stand by and keep her at an arms distance and make recordings or her whereabouts and issues, try to influence positively...
All the while I'm worried.
Might delete this comment at some point, but I guess I ended up venting..
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Hey, I'm very sorry you're going through this. I don't have any help, but please do record everything.. details matter so much later. I hope there won't be a later, and that all the evidence you collect won't ever be used ... but it's good to have as much as you can. Which you're already doing, so big props to you!!
6 likesIf possible, maybe install a little hidden camera around your niece. Anything to save a life, within bounds (I mean don't get yourself in trouble).
All the best, big hugs!!
Edit: also take as many pics of your niece growing up, and her wardrobe..
Basically, you're pushed into a situation where you have to be pretending all is well. One of those "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer". Good acting could serve your purpose very well. Look how acting got this bitch off from such a heinous crime.
I had never heard of the case before this video and after watching it I don’t understand how she wasn’t found guilty, but I guess she had a good lawyer!
6 likesThe decision in this case is a clear example of misjustice.
5 likesThe test in law is 'beyond reasonable doubt' so to apply this in this case; we have a mother who purposefully does not report her child missing, fabricates countless stories, invents names of people and lies about details of others, leads the police on a wild goose chase and withholds until the last minute confession of the death. And then, the body of the little girl is discovered with duct tape around the head, and the same mothers internet search history includes 'suffocating' etc. This factual evidence cannot be be contested or construed as being anything other than intentional and it is therefore "beyond reasonable doubt" that the little girl was murdered by her own mother.
Casey's parents loved that baby girl so much they would have taken her on. I once was having a really hard time and got my parents to look after my dog for a week so I could focus on myself. They would have kept her if I decided I just couldn't look after her at all anymore (that wasn't the case; I got her back after the week and she ended up living to 15 and a half (RIP)). But I needed a rest from caring for my 'child'. Imagine if it were their own actual human grandchild; even if the agreed week of babysitting wasn't enough, imagine grandparents who wouldn't keep looking after their own grandchild if required or at least seek out the help of various other family members to split the load. If you're struggling, you HAVE OPTIONS. The worst case scenario is offering the child up for adoption if for some reason your family isn't willing to help you (which from listening to the parents in this case was totally untrue). Why would you kill your own child?
1 likePS in case someone thinks I'm a hypocrite, I did kill my dog at 15 and a half years' old getting her put down at the vet but it was critically necessary due to her kidney failure and sudden loss of function of her back legs and bladder and she was very distressed about it and seemed to be in pain, and it was in line with when the vet told me she'd probably die from the three months before when her kidney failure was diagnosed and her life expectancy was 14 at most and she'd outlived that.
I don't know what baffles me more the fact she could lie with such ease in such a situation or that a jury actually let her walk.
6 likesMothers definitely get a lot of leeway in the legal system. You have the whole custody thing, and here - I guarantee you thinking "I cant imagine a mother doing that to her child!" played a large role in getting her off
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Nah, it’s just sociopaths in general. They’re really good at manipulating people. Judges tend to favor people who remain calm, and have contempt for people who seem too emotional.
2 likesWould love to see "The Case of John Couey" from you sometime in the future.
2 likesThe Lundsford case took the media by storm in my state and was really a "Trial of the Century " type case here.
So can someone explained to me, if she drowned in the family pool 1. Why she didn't call 911 and 2. Why was the body found with duct tape over her mouth and nose? I actually know a person who young son drowned in my town recently in their swimming pool. Child service got involved, saw the kids weren't neglected etc, the police then looked at everything and ruled it unfortunate accident and a warning to others about pool safety and why children should learn to swim if there is a pool located on the premises.
5 likesI was pissed in 2011/2012 when she got off and im still pissed now. Even more now as I now have 3 girls of my own.
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Insert long rambling speech by lawyer here.... Aaaaaaand ACQUIT!!!
0 likesThat's why. 🤦
Her internet search history pretty much demolishes her defense teams' entire argument about the drowning so I'm wondering if that evidence wasn't allowed in or something.
7 likesI honestly think that she did that, but we already know that her family was really disfunctional to the point of making up all the degreed thing and her lawyer literally said she was abused at the age of 8 (see at minute 55.50-58.00). That could explain a lot about how she delt with her life's problems, expecially the denial behind all the lies: she might have learned to lie to herself really early on in her life in order to survive. So if this is true, we should really talk about it, couse it's the only way to prevent this kind of things from happening. I'm speculating obviously but I cannot be the only one seeing that hidden suffering. good evening everybody
1 likeI really think she killed her daughter because she just didn't want to take care of her anymore. She always wanted to go on dates and parties. Her daughter was a hindrance to this and for that she killed her. This is really what I think about her.😡
4 likesAfter everything that was shown in this video, I was quite sure, that jury would find her guilty for SOMETHING
1 likeWhat an interesting outcome... How did that happen
I still do not understand how duct tape is not 100% proof of guilt.
1 likeDefence says that Caylee drowned in a pool and (presumably) Casey hid her body in a swamp (to escape the contempt of society?). If Caylee did drown in a pool - where does the tape come from?
This trial basically teaches people if u don’t give enough evidence to a murder you’ll get away with it. Horrible😞
1 likeIve always heard about her and i thought it was just a lady who killed her kid and now that im seeing all this its unbelievable i totally get why this specific case was so big
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Yes, same here! Heard of the case but never heard the whole story. Unbelievable! 💔
0 likes“Just provide false information to the authorities and you will only get charged for that and not the actual crime” - Casey Anthony
2 likes“How to get away with murder? Hire a good lawyer” - Casey Anthony
Who waits to find her daughter? If I was to go get my daughter at a "babysitter" and she is not there I would go to the end of earth to find her! My gosh, the justice system is so corrupted and illogical. The evidence is pretty straightforward on this
0 likesyou cannot convince me that there was no bribing involved, since there is absolutely no doubt that casey is at least involved in the death of her child
1 likethis is the most aggravating case I've heard of, I can not BELIEVE she got away with that
2 likesabsolutely outrageous that she walked free. i think she did a shit job in committing the crime but her top-notch lawyer definitely saved her ass. i still cant believe the jury 😒
0 likesIt baffles me that she passed several psychiatric evaluations with no remarks. I get such huge narccisistic vibes, psychopathic vibes, from her apathy and her constant manipulation of the people around her. Watching these clips of her is beyond terrifying. Getting so many psycho vibes.
3 likesWhat I don't understand about this is, if she really didn't want her daughter why not just give her up. Yeah her parents won't have been thrilled but in time they'd understand. I think this is a classic case of psychopathy combined with average intelligence.
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The parents are partly to blame as well. They have spent her whole life enabling her behavior. She needed discipline and they failed her.
0 likesI gotta say man. She got placed with a damn good lawyer. Thats all that needs to be said
3 likesShe DAMN lucky that I wasn't on that jury. The evidence on her browser history is enough evidence in my eyes.
6 likesI sure hope every juror on this case in finding her “not guilty” shares in her hell.
11 likesWhat scares me most is that I lie to my parents like she did when she was younger...and I'd cry if they talked to me endearingly or I felt like I was appreciated and wanted by them...
1 likeThe fact that they threw a graduation party sucked though. I'm beginning to appreciate the fact that my parents truthfully told my relatives about my failures. Or I'm misreading this.
She literaly dosent drop a single tear fpr her daughter (who she clearly murdred) but when its anything to do with her she easly starts crying lol
11 likesHow ignorant are these parents even after all the lying she had done they still believed her and wasted time with the “have you seen me” stuff and having other people join in on the search still treating it like an abduction.
2 likesIdk why Casey thought killing her daughter was a good idea. She could easily give them to an orphanage right?
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She cared about looking good in the eyes of others. Parents who abandon their good aren't look at favorably, but parents of dead kids are.
1 likeShe looks quite nonchalant and at ease for a mother who lost her child. How evil and wicked, one day she'll face her maker.
8 likesCasey DID murder Caylee. It’s THAT simple.
6 likesI’m so sorry the justice system let you down Caylee.
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Sure you'd know
0 likesSomeone should do a study on the collective IQ of the jurors who I'm convinced would have trouble tying their own shoes in the morning.
1 likeLies to the police about killing her child. Is convicted of lying to the police but not the act for which she lied about...... wtf am I missing here?
5 likesI really lose hope with cases like this. Bet she has a great care free life now,even if she had to fuck up her fam ties for it. She got away with it. How can everybody of the jury agree on this…fml
2 likesIt's very telling that at 29:50 when she is talking to her father everything is in past tense : "You WERE a great grandfather." "Caylee WAS so lucky." what a monster!
0 likesI am so freaking mad how the hell they just let her get away with this??
0 likesi can not and will never understand how this world works
0 likesthe fact that she was found not guilty makes me so angry and sad at the same time
this entire thing goes against my humanity
this is not right
Maybe we should have classes in grade school about accountability. Then we can blame the school system for our children’s bad behavior. At what point does the human race become accountable?
0 likesthat defense attorney is just evil idc. i get it’s a job but to a certain extent, that’s pure evil.
7 likesThe name Mason reminds me of of the "Perry Mason"
0 likesAlso, liars only give up when they're dead. They never run out of options especially when you give them an audience.
Justice is still owed in this case
1 likeMan...its so wrong. How can she walk away. What a shameless world over US
4 likesThe fact they tried to somehow blame the dad is f ing crazy... Like wtf??? I couldnt think of a way she could get any worse
1 likeThanks JCS I have just been out of relation 20 years married and I was very close of being killed by her .things like that happens every were. thanks again I am Arabic from Dubai and love what you do.
0 likesI have no words whatsoever for how she literally got away with it, i cant fucking believe it
1 likeHearing the analysis makes me self conscious of the things I’ve said
0 likesIs there any way she can go to prison? This is absolutely sickening that she is free.
0 likesPure evil and manipulative as she definitely had something to do with precious Caylee!
1 likeI know it wouldn't be technically Legal-
0 likesBut would it be Morally correct to deny her service at any sort of venue/store?
HOW IS IT THAT JENNIFER, THE GIRL FROM THE PREVIOUS VIDEO GOT LIFE WITH NO POSSIBLITY OF PAROLE FOR KILLING HER MOM, BUT CASEY MURDERED A BEAUTIFUL LIL GIRL, HER DAUGHTER AND SHE'S FREE TODAY!?????
11 likesSadly, the system failed justice for that child...shame
1 likePROTECT THE CHILDREN AT ALL COST
1 likeI’m blaming her parents too. Throwing a graduation party when she didn’t graduate?! Wtf. They enabled this horrible person throughout her life.
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Nurture vs nature.
51 likesYes!! They created that monster. And she treats them like sh**.
76 likesthen she has the audacity to say her dad rap3d her as a child... she is the definition of a sociopath
123 likesDamn straight
6 likesfinally someone said it. the parents moulded her into the liar that she is.
47 likesyou so right bro!
4 likesChris Watts' parents are worse
9 likesThat was soooo disturbing!! They are part of the whole problem
6 likesthrowing a graduation party doesn't mean they wanted her to kill her daughter ??
12 likes@one world Of course not. You missed the point. She lied to everyone, including the parents, about being able to graduate in HS. Even when her parents found out, they still threw a party for her to save face and in turn also them lying to other people. Now tell me is that setting a good example?!
33 likesShe reminds me of someone at San Jose State, she lied about working at the Admissions office , her parents covered for her, she was pampered and protected by her irresponsible parents. She was actually sleeping around and at sports bars.
4 likesA normal child would feel gratitude for their kind parents, and their grace in the face of their failures. Casey is just not normal. The way they raised her, imo really wasnt going to make a difference. Shes just awful. Some people are just awful and theres nothing you can do about it. I get your butterfly effect line of thinking but i dont think its fair to blame them.
10 likes@Lalad De it's not "setting a good example " but the correlation between setting a bad example .enabling her ?? and her killing her kid ?????
4 likes@Lalad De so when someone lies to you . it's your fault ?? they enabled her to lie so she could one day kill her kid and then lie about it ????
4 likes@one world I think you’re being too literal. I am looking at it in a broader perspective. It seems like she grew up not having any repurcussions on any wrong doing. There’s no fear in her, she can get away with anything! She learned to manipulate her because they let her. I am one of those who believe good character should be molded first at home.
8 likes@Lalad De wow ! hindsight is great isnt it !! the parents loved their kids and did the best for them ! they were not perfect and were not child psychologists that would know exactly how strict to be with them ? neither were they like nostradamus to forsee that she would abuse their love and become a child killer !!!
2 likes@Hayley Harrison music from the 50 and 60
0 likes@Lalad De and I think you're being too broad. I was also a pathological liar as a teen. I almost didn't graduate and had lied to my parents my entire senior year until I couldn't anymore. my parents didn't enable me, but even if they had I would never kill a baby, let alone my own. even tho the parents are responsible for molding her into the liar she is now, the original comment is entirely too broad and insensitive. they aren't responsible for this tragedy. Casey is.
1 like@one world No, the issue is that they enabled her.
1 likeShe went through life thinking that instead of dealing with something hard on life, she could take an easier path and just lie to cover up that she did something wrong and she would have no consequences.
So when you show sometime that they can just skip school and lie about it for months with terrible lies and you still stay on their side and reward them, you set up a slippery slope of them just seeing how far they can get with things.
It sounds ridiculous, but it really does escalate from skipping school to eventually killing your child and it all comes from never understanding that they can't just lie their way through any situation.
And helped her learn how to lie
1 like@AnCap Asuka are you serious ?? not coming down hard enough on your kid for skipping school is enabling them to kill their child latter in life ??? I've heard enough !!
0 likes@AnCap Asuka what are talking about ?? I'm making a logical leap ??? you're the one who said skipping school leads to killing your kid ?????
0 likes@one world That's not at all what I'm saying.
4 likesIt's clear you're not interested in discussing the psychological ramifications of a child never learning that their actions have consequences and lying to escape punishment isn't a good way to get through life.
So let's just end this here.
I'm not sure why you're so intent on denying this reality, but maybe some introspection is needed.
@AnCap Asuka quote from you " it really does escalate from skipping school to killing your kid "
0 likes@AnCap Asuka she was obviously molded to be that way ??? I cant take you seriously !! the percentage of parents who let their kids get away with alot more than this case is quite high .so by your logic there should be alot more child killers ??? I think I've played along with you enough !! your conclusion is ridiculous !!
1 like@one world I also don’t get why you think her parents have ZERO responsibility on how she turned out??! In the first place, if that graduation party isn’t a tad weird and messed up, do you think it’s worth reporting?!
4 likesI am blaming the parents for setting her up for failure. I am not blaming them for literally killing Caylee. Throw your sarcasm away then maybe you’ll understand.
@AnCap Asuka I guess it’s safe to say that Mr/Ms one world will never understand our point and logic. And it’s okay. Let’s not waste our time. :)
1 like@Lalad De this case was not about casey failing in life it was about her killing her child ? lots of parents set their kids up to fail ?? but set them up to kill their kids ????? please !!
1 like@Lalad De what is the correlation between setting your kid up for failure and them killing their child ????
1 like@O Med i hope you re being a pathological liar is only " i was" thing in the past.. Thts disgusting.. I know many people who are habitual liar are the most miserable ones..
0 likesparents do stuff for their kids that they dont deserve !! kid kills their child latter in life must be the parents fault ??? people do things for their undeserving kids everyday all over the world !! 99.999 % of those kids do not kill their own kids ???
0 likes@one world you're being willfully ignorant, doing stuff for their kid is like helping them with their hw, getting them a tutor to help with college applications, not lying to everyone that they graduated, writing their college applications for them, or whatever. There is a clear line between helping your child so they have the tools+experiences to thrive and teaching your child it is okay to cheat and lie and be dishonest. She is responsible for the crime but sociopaths don't just come out of nowhere, comes with the two polar opposites, neglect and overbearing/overdoing.
5 likesThe things people do for their kids and the things Casey's mother did for her are not the same thing and that's why she felt like she could get away with anything.
You're being purposely obtuse and all you "?????" makes you sound so frantic and defensive that i'm starting to wonder if you're a helicopter parent yourself lol
@Canned Bread so all evil psychopaths have been taught to be that way ??? it's called being wrong ! accept it !! some people let their minds drift into the wrong direction . see positive results and keep going with it . knowing it is wrong and then just cant stop !!! you would rather believe that her parents "taught " her to be that way !! like they wanted her to grow up to be a killer etc.. get real will ya !! let me guess if they never let her get away with anything ever and didnt spoil her at all !! you people would say "well her parents were too strict " gettoutahere !!
0 likesWell I wouldn't go that far, like what pushed her over to murder her own child, that's just her own psychopathy
0 likesThere's a pretty accurate saying that goes "raiseyour kids and you get to spoil your grandkids. Spoil your kids and you get to raise your grandkids."
2 likesSomehow Casey's parents avoided raising both.
I get that’s bad parenting but her raising has no bearing or blame for the decisions she made.
0 likes@Baby Summer I disagree, Id say all children can be manipulative while very young, maybe its a survival instinct, but its up to parents to teach children the right way to behave. You dont all of a sudden start teaching kids when their teenagers, it starts from when they are babies. The parents HAVE failed her - there is no doubt they love her but parenting doesnt just involve love. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, sometimes you have to endure the wrath of your child for your child to understand its for their own good. These parents, i think never did that, they always took the easy road.
1 like@one world parenting can be tricky, children need to learn consequences of actions, this starts when they are little toddlers, it appears to me the parents loved their little daughter so much they failed to give her consequences of her actions. She just didnt turn into a liar when she graduated, shes been lying for years and years and the parents have allowed her to get away with it. I would not be surprised at all if she started lying to her parents at three and when caught she turned into the devil child and gave them hell... so eventually the parents turned a blind eye its just easier right? Dont upset the apple cart, meanwhile liar lives with no consequences and parents cover for her. You can tell her mother doesnt believe a word shes saying ever. Shes just that used to it. I wouldnt be surprised if her mother felt deep down, a dislike for her own child.
1 like@Lalad De yes, you nailed it for sure. I totally agree with you. Children get taught right from wrong from a very very young age and they should be given consequences from a very young age. It appears to me her parents got wore down by her lies and the outbursts she would have had when caught they just found it easier to let her off.
2 likes@O Med They are responsible for the person she turned out to be. Casey is responsible for her actions. Thank your lucky stars YOUR parents didnt enable you... you probably experienced the consequences of your lies and learnt valuable lessons, unfortunately it appears Casey didnt, but also couple into that Casey probably has other issues like lack of empathy except for herself which i would say is on the narc spectrum not that im a dr.
1 like@one world
2 likesI think the point was that had she had some negative consequences for bad behaviour growing up, she might not have killed her kid because of fear of the repercussions. There are amoral people out there who need boundaries set for them or they will do whatever makes them happy without regard for anyone else. Her basic nature combined with the undisciplined style of nurture she received from her parents is what is being referred to here.
@Chewanashraf
0 likesIt depends what you are lying about and why. Sometimes lying is purely done to avoid an even deeper misery which would result. I can never be my most authentic self with my deeply religious parents and sister for example, because if I were they'd never accept it.
Yep. Causes you to wonder if she's a miniature replica of her mother
0 likes@one world your comments are making me believe you have some serious issuea
1 like@Katarina Hinsey what did they do
0 likesParticipation trophy culture for yah!
0 likesWell, maybe that gives weight to her claim that she was sexually abused by her father then, that she was able to get away with so much, like blackmail?
1 likeI can go one better. My nephew, who fits the clinical definition of a classic narcissist, "emancipated" himself and dropped out of high school when he was 18. He then proceeded to live on his mother's couch for the next year. At the end of the school year, when his class graduated from high school, his mother bought him a brand new STI. Un-fucking-amazing. Talk about rewarding failure.
2 likes@Lalad De there's plenty of people with terrible parents who aren't this way. Ultimately its up to the person.
0 likes@Angela Wagner kids naturally become liars for a bit when they're young. Happens all the time
0 likes@ALi yeah the parents don’t really bear any real blame other than the reinforcement of the lying behaviors. I doubt they were bad parents it’s probably more that they weren’t hard enough on her. She probably never was punished for the things she did. As a parent myself I can say it’s really hard to punish your children but you have to do it or you could help raise a horrible person.
0 likes@clark kent Because you don't have to watch it. It's a choice.
0 likesnotice how she said "I'm so glad that she had you" and then correct herself and said "And that she still has you". Fucked up.
2 likes"While refuting the prosection's supposed attempt to entice anger, he subtly attempts to evoke anger" Shouldn't it be "encouraging the notion of" instead of "refuting" in this sentence? Just wondering... becauce isn't "refute" to effectively prove something to be wrong?
0 likesAgain: Keep lying and it'll all work out for Casey Anthony.
2 likes29:56 was a big slip up by her. saying something about a missing person in the past tense is suspicious
1 like33:00 my guy actually roasted her there
This is a wholeheartedly one of the most baffling things I’ve ever seen.
2 likesShe outsmarted everyone on all levels
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She really didn't, at a point it seemed as everyone knew what the verdict SHOULD be. But the jury fucked the case.
0 likesI find extreme 🚩 that she referred to ppl with their middle names too
1 likeI cant remember when was the last time i was glued to a documentary— well done
2 likes#OpenTheCaseyAnthonyCaseAgain! #JUSTICEforCAYLEEAnthony
1 likePlz Help her find justice 🙏
Ah yes. Being arrested on a whim. After admitting to misleading law enforcement in a mISSING CHILD CASE
1 likeyeah on the day her daughter was killed she was just casually searching suffocating a kid on google, nothing sus there
3 likesShe viewed her daughter as a burden. Just like when a fly keeps buzzing in your ear, and when you finally swat it away.. you are relieved. It's not really hard to understand. She removed her daughter from her life, admitted to her decision in her journal, and lived the life she desired free from the burden. There's absolutely no speculation there. The only speculation is how the murder was done..nonetheless, the child was murdered and she clearly had something to do with it. In any sensical conclusion, that is a reason to be locked up...for life.
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that, and i think jealousy equally played into it. i think she was jealous of her daughter, and how much caseys parents loved her and loved on her. she despised that.
0 likesi think it really hits me that she would have been my age today if she was still alive.
0 likesI'm so happy you added subtitles!
1 likesuch an entitled person, she's irritating to listen to. i cant believe she was not guilty.
1 likeshe can enjoy her life now, leave the rest to god
2 likesSo they just ignored that the car smelled like a dead body?
3 likes10:05 omg I love this punchline 😂😂😂 She wasnt a Event Coordinator but was selling Photos with Juliette Lewis on the Incredible Hulk ride instead 🤣🤣🤣 omg
0 likesAt around 57:00 how is the lawyer allowed to lie
2 likesI guess this is what's called the game of luck... 😕.. however Karma will surely teach her the lessons she needs...
1 likeNow she's hanging out at bars instead of being behind bars. It's Disgusting.
2 likesThis is absolutely mindblowing!!
0 likeshow can someone lie like this!? that what's wrong with her? she should get a psychopath test
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I thought she did twice
1 like@Adriann really?
1 like@Adriann
0 likesDid she really? Are the results public?
Sorry I read that as psychological test. In this video I believe it said she had two and she was completely normal. When I look it up I find notes of psychiatrists who talked with her. So I don’t think they did a an actual psychopath test because she wasn’t found to need one based off the first tests she did (I think)
1 likeSo that was just to rule out insanity, I guess.. to prove she's able to stand trial.
0 likes@A. Ducky that makes sense. When I look up stuff about it there’s articles about how she did this “without anything wrong with her” mentally I assume. Maybe if she got reevaluated they’d diagnose her differently
0 likesOddly enough she did have a choice. She could have gave her parents full custody and I bet they wouldn’t have second guessed it. She never had to kill their grandchild for freedom
0 likesi can see straight through theses monsters i can feel how they think i can understand how they feel
0 likesShe touches her hair when talking to the detective- anyone else thinks she's flirting?
0 likesAnd complains about eating cole slaw, what a privileged monster
No freaking way. Casey got out free? FREE? Oh, Caylee...
2 likesAt first i was thinking that there should be a subtitle on this video to understand what she was saying in the interrogation room, and then realize all her lies makes me naaahhh...
0 likesShe's sooo guilty
0 likesNo wonder why there are people declared her as the most hated woman in america
So if she pathologically lies wouldn’t see me considered for insanity defense? Just curious- not defending her actions in any way
0 likesIm so baffled. How was she not found guilty.
0 likesHe family and best friend even suspected she did it …damn.
0 likesWhat happened to the father and the “penis in mouth” claims??? Has there been a trail for that ?
0 likesI feel sorry for her. It's sad that society and family pressures women into having children unprepared, and not being able to admit if it's not working out without being judged. It should be normalised to have the option to give up a child without stigma. It would save lives as well as emotional damage.
0 likes1:01:50 "the attorney evoked empathy and saved Casey's life"; - I don't think her life was ever in danger. She's a woman and therefore immune to most western law.
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Sorry bud, that's not true. I'm a woman who lost in a divorce. You're not even gonna believe me when I tell you that I was leaving an abuser. But facts.
0 likesGeneralizing = bad
With how quick she comes up with names, full life stories, and constructs new realities she really missed her calling as a D&D Dungeon Master.
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Yup.
1 likeI had this same thought 😕
1 likeHow is her father ok with her bluntly putting him under the bus like that and shaming him to the whole world ..
0 likesShe got them crazy eyes. They should have seen that right off the bat.
1 likeNot really, the evidence should have been sufficient.
The parents ultimately bred and encouraged this toxic manipulative behavior and now they reap what they sow sadly.
1 likeThe parents created her, listen to her talk to them she controls the parents, she was spoiled rotten
0 likesNo idea how she walked away from this.
1 likeGuilty or not guilty, she'll live with it as long as she lives.
0 likesI truly don’t understand how defense attorneys can be so cold and lie like this when they fully know the truth. I don’t think Casey is the only sociopath in here.
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the things people do for money...
411 likesI was just going to say… money talks.
167 likesThey get paid to defend their clients not throw them under the bus. If they wanna throw people in jail they’d be prosecutors
306 likesFully agree that it seems 'strange' to want to defend somebody who is (almost certainly) guilty, but everybody deserves a robust, professional defense of their position in a court of law. If we didn't have that it would essentially be a witch hunt.
336 likesUnfortunately alot of defence attorneys on high profile cases like this are extremely well paid, and therefore will go to almsot any level to get their client off/lenient judgements, including lying, or slander of the prosecuting witnesses.
68 likesThe prosecution will use the same sort of trickery and persuasion to slam the defendant as hard as possible, justified or not. That's how our system works. The jury (or judge) has to decide what the evidence supports.
106 likesThey're doing their job of defending a person, you can't argue with that. There's been plenty of occasions where the prosecution has lied to send innocent people to prison
122 likesIt's there job dummy
22 likes@Daisy *their
44 likesDummy
@cat lady your mom
9 likesCuz it affects thier reputation its not just for the money but ego too.
1 likeThe part that got me was the grandstanding to the media. They're lawyers, and it's their job to act on behalf of the client. That's our justice system, and as flawed as it might be, it's probably for the best that they have this duty. But don't then get up there and mug for the cameras afterwards and lecture the world about her innocence. THAT is what makes them a sociopath in my eyes.
22 likesIt's their job to do so. Even if they don't want to they fucking have to
24 likesIf you listen to the defense attorney at the first opening statements he stuttered a couple of times...he was lying to himself about the lie that he was told to get charges dismissed.....he betrayed his own conscious because of what? A paycheck? I'm a Christian but those who argue the world revolves around money and sex is starting to become a statement I am going to live by. Sin rules the world....best believe it...
8 likes@Ivan Henderson even as an atheist I can agree with you. I may be a cynic, but even I can tell that's not true
2 likesYou obviously know nothing about how the Justice system works in a courtroom. I'm not saying they were right, but people are innocent until proven guilty. It shocks me that people still don't know this. Its not perfect but it's the only way to stop prosocuterial injustice. I'm not happy with the outcome but how do we figure out a better way. Enlighten me.
23 likes@TBSC50 There's a difference between defending a person and doing your darndest to make sure an obvious child murderer gets to be let loose on society again. Saying that it's their job isn't an argument. The guards and officials at Auschwitz were just doing their jobs as well, but surely no sane person would defend them, and for good reason. Obviously the world does indeed need lawyers to have a functioning judicial system, but a thick red line should be drawn between proper defense and knowingly fabricating alibis or favorable circumstances. Without that red line, without an actual commitment of all lawyers to work with the truth, rather than create their own, there is no denying that the profession is inherently immoral.
13 likes@Evil GLock hi i'm money I protect you from all evil you do 💰
2 likes@TheLochs You obviously don't know that the statement "it's the only way to stop prosocuterial injustice'' makes no sense. The 'innocent until proven guilty' standard for the accused is just the starting point of our justice system. Innocent people still go to jail, and guilty people still get set free. Which also happens in other countries where instead guilt is assumed. And fyi it's spelled 'prosecutorial'. It shocks me that people don't know how to spell the big words that they use to try to sound smart and condescending towards others in internet comments. Don't I sound like an asshole? Well that's how you sound. Consider yourself enlightened.
6 likesThey kinda have to. Im pretty sure you are bound by rules if you are getting payed by someone to represent them.
0 likesIt’s their obligation to do whatever they can to get their client off, ethics aside.
1 likeYou know prosecutors do the same thing to get a conviction right?? Literally lie about what someone did because they’re getting paid to put someone in jail?
8 likesI fully understand that prosecutors get payed for putting people in jail, and defense attorneys for doing the opposite REGARDLESS OF THE TRUTH. I put that in caps so you see how that’s an ethical dilemma and literally defeats the purpose of a justice system. I just simply wouldn’t be able to do that for any amount of money. I couldn’t live with that. However, they are not the only ones to blame on this case. Yes, the way that the defense attorney carried this case despite knowing the truth was despicable and inhuman, but he was far from being the only one at fault. The judge, and most importantly the jury carry the full weight of this injustice. There was more than enough evidence to at least put this woman behind bars for a long time, in my opinion she should’ve gotten the death sentence because what kind of animal murders their own child in such a gruesome way and has the guts to continuously lie about it. But is crazy! She didn’t even serve any time. Feels like white supremacy! If this was to be an immigrant we will be looking at a whole different story. I mean, we sentenced a Cuban truck driver to 110 years in prison over an accident! An accident!!! And this woman gets away with 1st degree murder because she was allegedly raped when she was a child? 😂. The justice system is a joke. And I am overwhelmed by the reactions about my comment. I thought it will go unseen basically.
1 likeIt’s all about the money 🙄😞
0 likes@SquishyFishy Everyone deserves legal representation, you know that. If you were on trial, innocent or not, you'd want a defense attorney.
2 likesIt's how the legal system works...
You get paid to do your job, don't you?
5 likesEveryone seems to think laywers are all evil, but that tune sure changes when you need legal help.
You'd all want defense attorneys, regardless if you're innocent or guilty. Defense lawyers and prosecutors all get paid to represent the case in a certain light, and then it's up to jurors or judges to decide.
All in the game though
0 likes@Big Dre tell that to the little girl that was murdered by her own mother in the coldest way possible and now gets to enjoy life like nothing ever happened.
0 likesThats their job.
0 likesthe defense attorney needs that money bruh, it’s not like they want to really defend an obviously guilty person. Like read the book “monster” or something and you can see how the defense attorney thinks
0 likesEvery person in this world is allowed too an attorney it’s everyone’s right
1 likeThey’re just doing their jobs. It’s how the legal system works. And if they lose the case, this means they take a hit to their reliability as legal attorneys. It’s a role forced upon them by their professions.
0 likeseven odds is that they dont know. they only really know that which their clients tell them, or so i would assume. idk
0 likesI understand defense attorneys when they have to have someone who's clearly innocent, because it's their job. I cant imagine having to defend someone like Casey, but Jose Baez is just a poopy head because the fact he felt proud to defend Casey and smiles after she didn't go to jail was so cold.
1 likeIt’s their job to defend people accused of crimes. It is a right for all Americans to have a defense lawyer and they are necessary to our judicial process.
1 likeit’s their job to defend their client…
1 like@Maddy D. no way genius! How you figure that out? Is the sadistic way in which he does it what makes the difference.
1 likeA surgeon or doctor will heal and try to revive even known serial killers an murderers if they are sick. Why is it any different for a lawyer. The prosecutors and police focus on guilt and the lawyer focus on anything that points to innocence.
3 likesThat isn’t the reason for a defence attorney. No matter what the circumstances, everybody deserves to be defended. Even tho we all know she did it. And all knew she did it and there was evidence. She deserves, as a human right, as a UNIVERSAL right to be defended
1 likeTheir all about lying. That’s their professional code.
0 likesNumber 1: they do not “know” the truth. If you tell an attorney “I killed Jonathan but help me get off” they can’t lie to the court.
3 likesNumber 2: absolutely everybody is entitled to a rigorous legal defense.
Defense attorneys play a crucial role to defend individuals from the state
@McGuffin Doe it wouldn't take a brain surgeon to work out she's lying her attorney would have had all the case notes and he still took the case and defended her, yes it's the law that you are entitled to fair Council but surely the solicitors themselves can say what cases they will and won't take? How could you live with yourself knowing you help to child murderer I get away with it?
0 likes@Leah vapes86 I’ll explain how my father in law did (retired defense attorney)
2 likesTo make a long story short, he told of a time where he had to defend someone he truly believed to be guilty and in the end that person spent 8 years in prison and was released upon the discovery of astronomically unlikely evidence that all but proved that client was innocent.
The reason I’d defend anybody and feel no guilt about securing a not-guilty verdict is that you truly never know. And it’s better for guilty to go free than for innocent to be condemned
Funnily enough...it's their job...imagine if they got them thrown in jail on purpose lol they wouldn't get clients.
1 likeIf anything these lawyers have done a great job.
1 likethey can’t help it, they need to feed their own families and therefore need the money
1 likewell the system followed is "innocent until proven guilty" and no matter how obvious it is that a person has committed a crime they are innocent until there is evidence against them that goes beyond reasonable doubt so technically the defence attorneys were defending someone innocent. besides defending the accused is literally their job cos (again) the person they are defending is assumed to be absolutely innocent (and no I am not defending Casey im defending the statement of the defence attorneys being sociopaths and cold liars) and here I would actually argue that the prosecutors didn't do their best and were half-assed cos honestly even I thought she was going to get convicted cos its so bloody obvious but if you see the opening and closing statement of the defence, the way they engaged with the jury was something pretty well done. Other than this I am assuming Casey did not confess the crime to her defence because if she had the defence is duty-bound to withdraw the case as they know the accused will lie on the stand (I think this is what they follow in the US im not entirely sure though as I haven't studies US Law heck im not even from there and sorry if this got too long im actually looking to be a lawyer-not criminal but a lawyer nonetheless- and your statement kinda hit me cos im literally looking at that profession as my literal future so yeah sorry. defence attorneys aren't bad people at all like imagine a situation where there was incriminating evidence against you and there was no other suspect at all and you had nothing to do with the crime but you were still accused for it what do you plan to do? Do the people you hire to defend you from any punishment on the planet seem like cold liars and sociopaths at this point too?)
1 likeYep.. They put the devil to shame
0 likesThat’s their job. It’s just part of the legal system.
1 like@Moonbeam It is a constitutional right to have a lawyer. Someone has to do the job
1 like@TBSC50 There's "Robust Defense" and then there's "Make up a completely false scenario to avoid having to defend your client on the facts of the case in front of you"
0 likesI do wonder whether or not they knew that it was all a lie or if it's some shit Casey fed them convincingly. Even with that story it simply doesn't add up why the alleged murderer according to their entire scenario would call then call the police in a panic about her missing grandchild, or why almost literally every witness in the case testifying or providing statements to the police about the whereabouts of the various fake people would countermand basic facts she didn't need to lie about like the fake babysitter, her coworkers, her job history, etc.
They lie for a living, she lies for fun
0 likesWithout a rigorous defense the conviction can be brought into doubt. This was the fault of the jury who ignored the evidence presented.
1 likeAttorney is forced to believe their client and speak the truth from their client perspective with supporting evidence. Can't blame them when it's literally their job.
3 likesThey have to provide the best defense for their client without passion or prejudice
3 likesIt keeps many innocent people out of jail but very sadly sometimes keeps the right one out
@Limb-O imprisoned for doing his job as a defense attorney?
1 likeThe point of any good legal system is that everyone is entitled to a vigorous legal defense.
1 likeThe defense attorney HAS TO defend her, even if he also knows 100% she is guilty. He has to make it hard for the prosecution, otherwise the whole justice system fails.
1 liketo be fair not everyone of them is corrupt and i think everyone deserves a defense of some kind (yes, everyone)
1 likeThey literally have to by law
1 likeThe defense has to have bias towards the one they are defending. Its the only way where a true innocent who is accused of something he/she did not do has a chance of getting justice despite all arrows and odds are aganist him/her for some reason. Of course, this system is far from perfect and open to abuse like this case...
2 likes@冬 It's their fucking job they NEED to do it to support their own families even if they don't like it.
1 likeIt's their job. They choose to pursue that career.
0 likesEveryone has the right to an attorney. He's only trying to do his job--to do anything else is unjust. It is their profession, to do whatever they can, in the limitations of the law, to prove their client innocent, just as well as the prosecution does whatever they can to prove that they are guilty. It's just the basic premise of the law system. It works.
2 likesIt takes a special kind of person to be a lawyer. Preferably stay away from them.
0 likesYou’re misunderstanding the point of the defense attorney. Their only role is to provide the best possible defense for their client. If Casey wants to go a certain direction “not guilty because I didn’t do it”, and makes fictitious claims to support it; the defense attorney is obligated to assist. The defense attorney can’t be against their client, they cannot in any way fault their client. If your attorney was willing to stab a knife in your back and tank your case, would you hire him?
1 likeno seriously and anybody talking about money, and it’s their job, or it would be “unfair” if no one defended her are weird themselves bc no amount of money should be able to make you okay with someone MURDERING THEIR OWN CHILD
0 likeslike no one is missing the point at all… the point is he’s a bad person !!! i simply would not have taken this case or requested to be taken off the case by the judge, he’s not a public defender and even if he was, he can still request to be taken off the case
0 likesYep. Agreed..those defense attorney's will have their "judgement day" as well!
0 likesThe attorney isn’t lying, he’s trying to prove that there is reason to doubt. Knowingly lying would disbar the lawyer. That being said, google the mental toll that it takes on attorneys to defend a client that they know is guilty because most of them are more than likely trying to fight for the innocent.
1 likeI blame the jury.
0 likesI fully understand your point but everyone deserves to have “their side of the story” shown in the courtroom, including the most dreadful human beings. The attorneys are doing their job, showing her POV which is her right as a human being in court, can we please stop dehumanizing people who are doing their job for the better or worse (ie ether helping someone who’s innocent to prove that they’re innocent or to show the criminals POV to get a suitable sentence)
1 like@冬 The thing is... she couldn't afford him as a lawyer so she bribed him with... favors. You can find online what she did as I'm sure you can guess. He eventually told her to stop and told the press that she confessed to it resulting in him leaving the law field. You can find more out about it online
0 likes@Sarah Same principle, different magnitude.
0 likes@Sarah Wo habe ich ihn bitte verharmlost?
0 likesThat is his job. You'll want him on your side if you need it one day. Obviously you don't get it because you're probably a good person. But if you are wrongly accused, you'd still want him on your side.
1 like@Kryyn the Meeks Again, there's a difference between defending someone who you actually think didn't murder their daughter, and making shit up just to give them plausible deniability. The latter is inherently immoral, regardless of whether or not it's your job.
0 likesBecause everyone is entitled to a vigorous defense. Maybe you’ll sing a different tune if you are ever accused of a crime, guilty or not
0 likesDefense attorneys believe in the best in people.
0 likes@Jacqueline Saldarriaga Don't be naive. Most of them believe in money first and foremost. The sad truth is that defense attorneys will do anything to make sure their clients get off scot-free, regardless of whether they know for a fact that they're guilty.
0 likesThat is their job, and it is absolutely necessary. If a defense attorney does not do everything they can to defend their client, within the boundaries of the law of course, then a mistrial is imminent. So understand it, and understand it well. And like it. Without the best defense possible, ALL criminals ever convicted would be set free. The alternative is just convicting people without any sort of defense, which of course leads to wrongful convictions more often than not. So sure, sometimes one gets away. But more often than not we get the right bad guy for what they did. Our system is intentionally imperfect. And believe me, you do NOT want a perfect judicial system. 100% conviction rate? Do you even understand what that means? Yeah, that is a bad thing.
0 likes@PackTheBud That's not true. The defense attorney should have convinced Casey to plead guilty. Since he knows she did it. The Defense Attorney for Shelia Eddy convinced Shelia to plea guilty. He could have made up some bs about Shelia being molested as a child or that Skylar drowned in a lake. But he didn't. He did the right thing.
0 likes@TheLochs So basically you don't think Casey was full of shit
0 likesTrue. One of them began a relationship with Casey.
0 likesIt’s their job….
0 likesMONEY BRO, MONEY!!!
0 likesits their job
0 likesHonestly you need to steelman your defendant, no matter how abhorrent they may appear, just so we can be as sure as possible when they get a guilty verdict, that it's the correct verdict. In cases like this, it's easy to scoff at defence attorneys as it's blindingly clear to everyone involved from the get to. But it's not the attorneys position to be the judge of their client. That's the judges job. Otherwise we enter a weird position where defence attorneys could tank their clients just because. It sounds weird, but remember there are a lot of extremely racist people out there. Is it hard to imagine that a defence attorney could be one, and just say "He did it" rather than give a defence to any black clients they're assigned?
0 likesIt's a difficult job, but everyone deserves their case to be as strong as possible. Not to protect the guilty, but rather to protect the innocent from being wrongfully imprisoned.
Money, always
0 likesHow did they think that she's innocent after all that lies.
0 likesShe got away with it ... UNREAL !!!
0 likesThis is what happens when parents don't instill right from wrong in their kids. All the kids think about is another way to manipulate their parents and authority figures. Stop calling her sweetie and start demanding respect from this brat. The little girl was probably getting more attention than she was, so she had to get that attention back on her. Even though it is negative attention. Lock her up in a cell with absolutely no other human contact and see if she suddenly lets go of the information leading to what she did with that poor little girl. After being lead down multiple wild goose chases and being caught in line after lie, alternative means need to be used to force this brat to come clean. They are treating her way to nice. She knows she can continue to do this, because they keep allowing it. Put her in a straight jacket, in a padded room by herself, and see how quickly she spills. No getting out or social activity until they check out everything she tells them, and they find the child. It's tough love time! I don't think she is crazy. I think she is manipulative. And she will keep this up forever as long as she is allowed to get away with it!
0 likesBurden of proof on the state, they couldn't prove it beyond shadow of doubt.
0 likesThere gotta be a re trial against her that’s fucking sickening
0 likesYea I can’t watch this one. It’s just gonna make me angry remembering this case on the news and Nancy Grace. She would not stop milking this story for views.
1 likeWas the jury a field trip for the specially educated?
0 likesLast I heard she's dating a fella with a daughter of his own.
2 likesDon't ever tell me women (attractive women) don't have it easier...
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I see what you saying, but plenty women would date a murderer when they have 5+ kids lol happens everyday
0 likeswhat the fuck was the excuse for googling "foolproof suffocation"
5 likesToo bad we didn't see her being confronted about those scary google searches
0 likesWHAT! What do you mean she wasn't found guilty
1 likeI have a deep passionate hatred for this girl after this!
0 likes"I didn't really wana come home I wasn't sure what I was gonna SAY about not knowing where Caylee was.................." WTF not I didn't want to come home without finding/knowing what happened to my BABYGIRL
0 likes1:07:17 the hypocrisy of this man.. omg.
0 likesthat baby would’ve been graduating high school next year….
2 likesI'm gonna say it no matter the backlash i'll probably have : if Casey were a man, she'd probably rot in prison rn.
0 likesThat poor dude getting dragged into this hideous crime...
0 likesso many lies, she waits 1 month and hasn't called anyone to ask where she is, she's partying this whole month wow, Switzerland is just as corrupt
0 likesFar too much pandering to this woman, everybody treated her like a princess and this always made her comfortable as she had been in princess mode her whole life, if this was a 22 year old black male in the same shoes it can be rest assured the situation would be a whole lot different, SWF getting the softly softly touch from the cops.
0 likesThere is no justice
1 likeThey tell her they found her daughter, mother ignores it.
0 likesQue ódio dessa mulher, que ódio desse júri de merda, tá na cara que ela foi a culpada EU TO MUITO REVOLTADA
0 likesThe Casey Anthony case shows how imperfect our legal system is here in the US. Guilty people get off daily on technicalities and jury incompetence while nnocent people occasionally get locked up because they can’t afford sufficiently competent counsel.
947 likesThe prosecution in this case dropped the ball. They were more concerned with character assassination to win their case.
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Not imperfect, they truely couldn't prove that she murdered her child. Unfortunately if you want freedom, you have to make sacrifices. And fortunately you can't be locked up over speculation if the jury can be convinced that way. Keep in mind I'm heated that this chick is still living and should really be rotting in prison.
35 likesyea but those are there not for the guilty but they were put in place so yjag the innocent have the best of shots now through that there's loop holes but I'd rather have a guilty person on the street and innocent man or women in jail because in theory one could keep working on putting the guilty back in court iknow they didnt here but I'm js no legal system can be perfect
2 likes@goofy dood "not imperfect" lmao you mean it's perfect?
3 likesWhy? Thats not our justice system. Thats a shitty prosecutor. This case proves that the system works. It means no matter what public opinion says, you need to prove someone committed a crime without a doubt. There are tons of recent examples of how our justice system is starting to fail but this isn't one of them.
20 likes@Kun Lee You're right. I was only considering the injustice of her getting off with only a charge of lying to the police. I didn't really consider that it was entirely the prosecutors fault since he didn't prosecute her for charges that he can actually prove. Changed my mind about this
4 likesUnfortunately there will never be a perfect system, and even tho we all agree and know she’s guilty the court cannot prosecute her based on feelings and assumptions. Iam with you guys I believe she guilty but we can’t and shouldn’t prosecute her on our assumptions or feelings , because on the flip side as history as shown there been many cases were people have been accused and looked guilty as hell / everybody without doubt believes they r guilty and later down the road was proven innocent. How many times the jury was 97 % certain and that 3 % by chance was the actual reality. It is that reason is why we have to go by the guidelines.
2 likesI disagree, the justice system worked perfectly in this situation. The evidence pointed to her being a horrible mother, but it didn’t prove that she was responsible for her daughters death beyond a reasonable doubt. The prosecution focused on denouncing her character rather than using physical evidence to prove their case, now that’s mainly because there was barely any physical evidence. Now of course I’m not saying the justice system is fool proof, for example OJ got away with a double homicide because he had a good character, he was likable and famous. Even though the evidence clearly pointed towards his guilt. Casey Anthony obviously murdered her daughter, but they couldn’t prove she did, if people were sent to jail because the juries believed that the défendent “obviously” committed the crime because of the character of the défendent or the circumstances than people would be wrongly imprisoned at a much higher rate
7 likes@Turkeylegs I’m sure if this case happened today she would’ve been found guilty, but our courts would then become a kangaroo court without many realizing
1 like@Yesiamyes Hell juries do already do that, often with PoC.
0 likes@DeathnoteBB Stop making everything about race.
5 likes@Anonymous AJ You first
0 likes@DeathnoteBB You're the one who brought up race, not me. Your reply makes no sense whatsoever.
3 likesi always taught this American jury thing is bullshit. how can regular people who know nothing about law judge cases like this.. i don't care if half of tham were doctor, teachers, engineers or astronauts.. there are not lawyers or judges. jury should be made of people who are trained in law.. this is stupid
1 likeKyle Rittenhouse
0 likes@MicahDude idk about the justice system, but JCS has a video detailing how Canadian detectives/behavioural Psychologists are probably the best in the world based on how their interact and siphon information from suspects.
0 likes@magno172 Yes those are really good. Its the justice system itself thats bad. A detective could rock an interrogation like with Rafferty, but then the Justice might end up letting him off bc of reasonable doubt.
0 likesbut i agree that the investigators are really good
@goofy dood Like the guy said, we could sit here all day and come up with what might have happened or what we think happened but that isn't proof of anything. Speculation does not mean much.
1 like@Hayles yep
0 likes@Turkeylegs they didn’t say that, they said IMperfect. Putting words in other ppls mouths won’t help you in life
0 likes@goofy dood Casey's journal. Her internet search history. Her car's smell. The fact that she was the last person seen with Caylee. There was evidence and if they had continued looking they would've found more. But I agree. If the prosecutors had focused more on finding evidence and less on attacking Casey's character I think they'd have taken the case easily.
0 likesI get why she was found not guilty. As a juror, would you rather believe the child drowned and her abused mother didn't know how to process it, or that a woman who grew up loved & nurtured googled how to kill her kid then went to Blockbuster
0 likesYou could've at least put her in a agency or up for adoption. Kids need us. Your sickning.
0 likesgod, I remember walking by the TV every day with my mom watching that trial. drove me fuckin nuts. Casey Anthony was like the hottest chick I saw every day for a good minute. was true for a lot people. pathological liars are amazing. I've met a few in my life, the first one in the psychiatric hospital. Psychopathy too and all that tho, don't think I've ever kept company with a psychopath. I have seen kids my age with kids Caylee's age. They call that neglect I guess. yeah, casey anthony is hot tho.
0 likesHow... HOW SHE GOT OFF? why no one questioned father “sa” ing her?!
0 likesShe actually gotta away with it
0 likes"Zanny" the Nanny.... Hmmmm... "Xanny" is slang for Xanax, which is probably what Cassie gave that poor little girl to make her sleep... That poor, sweet little girl.
0 likesWhat if she lies everytime for everything, and maybe she doesn't know a shit about her child missing and she doesn't care too but she lies on that
0 likesOf course her attorney looked like that..
0 likesNow that's a good lawyer. Are you sure he's not Saul?
0 likesThis is the only one I can't watch. I just can't get through this whole video. I tried a couple of times
0 likesone word to describe this case. disgusting.
0 likesOh I’m so glad she was set free~
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U ok ???
1 like@Ranjeeta Srivastav women solidarity tehe
0 likesIs nobody talking about her search history either? Like-
1 likeif people saw her in public they be slinging rocks
0 likesFirst, these videos are way too long and really could be edited down a lot. I admit that I skipped over parts.
0 likesI'm a retired attorney and although many hate the defense lawyer, we are ethically bound to represent our client to the best as we can under the law. He did a good job obviously. Factually, no one is happy about this case. Did she kill her daughter? Probably. But the criminal standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt." Percentage wise think of it somewhere around 66% - 75%. There can be some doubt, but by far you must believe the person to be guilty.
All they really have in this case is that she lied to the police and the damning web searches she did. They also tried to smear her personality and paint her as a party girl. Fine. All that is circumstantial. They don't have anything that links her directly to the crime. The charge is that she murdered her daughter, not that she lied to the police. Police lie to you and you are allowed to lie back to them. You are not under oath but as they warn you, what you say can be used against you. There is no law that says you must tell the truth to police (except a Federal law for the FBI). (I also question whether the videos of police interrogations were even admissible. Was she told of her Miranda rights at in the first one? In the second one after they arrested her for murder, she requested to speak to her attorney. Once that is invoked police cannot say another word to her. But in the video on the second interrogation he clearly said she is waiting for her attorney. If that is true then none of that is admissible. So it is even possible the police couldn't even introduce the interrogations as evidence and the jury never saw those).
90% of people arrested plead guilty to a lesser charge. Of the 10% that go to trial the prosecution wins 90% of the time. From my experience most prosecutors are not very good attorneys and often are arrogant because they win so easily. It is only in high profile cases like this that they actually have to work and are held to what the legal standard really should be. Just like the OJ Simpson case, chalk this up to a strong defense and, as the video states, overconfidence by the police and prosecutors.
Her lies are exhausting. Why did she not get ANY charge ? Why is this not being questioned? How could we live in a world that u could get away with this ?
0 likesDetective Allen sounds like goofy
1 likeA parent not reporting their kids missing should be automatic guilt.
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Automatic Hoax. Casey is Allanis Morrisette. You people believe anything but the truth.
4 likes🤷♀️
0 likesCaylee's Law is being proposed and even passed in some states. It is now a felony (in passed states) for a parent or legal guardian to delay/fail to report their missing child.
60 likes@Earl Sciambra Jr. lmao what
17 likes@Heather Nelson You still sleeping I guess. You must be a late bloomer.
0 likesThe bright side is people are not as bad as the TV portrays us.
👏👏👏👏
0 likes@So J Sung the fact that they need to write some legislative crap to make that illegal is a joke...Even the goddamn Vikings saw a reluctance to report a crime of any kind after a few days as an admission of guilt.
20 likes@Richard Allen So you think we can just decide things are illegal on the fly and not have written law? You must be big brain huh?
3 likesNot if the child had reason or has been mentioning running away, personal experience
1 likeEarl Sciambra Jr. I do not know if you are serious, but I did think she looks a little like Alanis, but not really Alanis.
0 likes@NotsoJoe Rogan i mean, if someone has a child and they do missing wouldnt that look suspicious asf? Is not about making laws just bcs yes its abt having a Brain like u Said👍😁
0 likes@Earl Sciambra Jr. Say no to meth, Earl.
2 likes#Justice4Caylee
1 like@Earl Sciambra Jr. it's time to take off the tin foil hat.
1 likeThey're making it illegal to not report your child missing
0 likes@C.A. Marg This should've already been a thing.
1 likeCompletely agree. Law enforcements are helpful in so many ways.
0 likesIf it was a man he woulda been in jail since that first phone call....
0 likesshe was found not guilty but how
1 likeWhen she called her house and her bestfriend started crying because she was worried about her daughter, and her reaction was along the lines of "wow I called for nothing" you could see how much of a horrible person she truly is. I'm petrified that to this day she walks free and isn't paying the consequences of her actions
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Damn Western "justice" systems really suck.
7 likesThat part, and the part where the mom said “The whole world is looking for her” and she literally sounded like that was a bother to her. Smh. She is a horrible human.
29 likesThis part actually made my jaw drop. Caylee deserved so much more 💕
8 likesThis makes me sick
2 likesthank god for equality now that woman are favored in court systems like some victims who are harmless, so they get away with rape and murder
1 like@bob builder You keep complaining about women under every other comment I read, get off reddit and touch some grass maybe then you'll get a girlfriend lmao
5 likes@Niels Vantilburg american*
0 likes@dead meme u know women say kill all men I’m simply applying the same logic I know 100s of strong women who wouldn’t do this, but I hope she sees this bro even tho u 100% get cheated on
0 likesI don't understand how the jury could have been LITERALLY SHOWN a picture of Caylee's skull WRAPPED IN DUCT TAPE and still be able to rule Casey not guilty, but either way–if Caylee drowned in a pool or was suffocated–it is undeniably her mother's fault that she is dead. There is no way you could leave a literal 2 year old alone in a pool long enough to drown without being just a straight up neglectful parent, but lets give her the benefit of the doubt and say Casey became essentially a vegetable long enough for Caylee to drown in their pool. So, once Casey regains sentience and discovers her daughter's dead body, she decides that instead of calling 911 or even her parents or her friend Christina(who clearly cared more about Caylee than her own mother did), she's going to wrap her daughter's face in duct tape, wrap her body in a blanket, store her body in the trunk of her car long enough for it to start to smell, all before finally dumping this little girl's body in a fucking swamp of all places and THEN she has the AUDACITY to go clubbing. I can't believe she gets to walk free when others have been executed for far less.
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I think the jury became a vegetable
50 likes@Grisel Calcagno Dunno when but I believe Supreme Court ruled the charge of abandonment of a corpse violates right of self incrimination. But ya some type of charge should of happened I mean that Oklahoma cop accused of rape had like 30 different counts against him he wasn’t found guilty on all but you know the tactic was shotgun charges out there hopefully something sticks.
1 likeI agree, let’s say she drowned , what’s the duct tape for ? Why search suffocation ....crazy, she will get hers ,
11 likesIts that last part for me. Others have been executed for less and oftentimes as Falsely convicted!!! All the evidence was right there... yet she gets to walk free
4 likesMy cousin (I haven’t talked to her in 10+ years) had an infant who somehow managed to get into a neighbors pool and drown. She wasn’t even the one to find him, it was the neighbors. Talk about horrifying and heartbreaking. She got her other two kids taken away and that was it, AFAIK. I don’t really know her and she’s the trash part of the family, but I know she was never under investigation. I don’t think she purposely killed him, but there was definitely negligence going on. I have no faith in the system protecting children.
1 likePeople morn differently, and Casey is obviously a very private person, but yeah, it's strange to duct tape your child if you've found them dead, unless Casey didn't drown her child.
1 likeYou can argue she was callous about how to probably bury her child, but there is no evidence that Casey did it.
Anyone else in Casey's life could have done it, but you're right, she could be twirling her mustache giggling to herself "Those idiots, I totally got away with murdering my child, now I can go back to partying", but unless there is a recording of her saying this, the truth of the matter is; nobody really knows.
@dustyak79 You make a painful point - society cannot dictate the objective truth, but it can make hell for anyone it opposses for any reason, and it doesn't matter if it's right or not.
0 likes@dustyak79 literally why do y’all love brining up getting held accountable for RACISM as a gotcha moment? it’s weird... anyone should know not to use slurs at the age of 8-10
2 likesWithout relating it to the case: I have given swimming lessons to kids in the past and you would be surprised as to how little time it takes for a kid to start drowning. I've had kids going underneath the surface within 5 seconds of looking away. Also if it might safe a live someday: people drowning don't make as much noise as you might expect. its not like the movies. It can happen rather quietly. rule of thumb when it comes to kids: don't worry if you can hear them, worry if they are silent
3 likes@Amber Slahlize yes you must not of considered evidence if you think even 0.0000000000001% that she 'may not of done it'
0 likes@Kat C because it doesnt make you a terrible person. you're young and you will learn. no reason to have your life made harder permanently, or even short term. if it was, alllll black people would never have any respect even from other black people, but being so openly prejudice and racist against white people from birth. the exact opposite of what Martin Luther King was meaning in his speeches!
0 likes@ronnie millsap you should not be able to work about people of color if you have ever seen them as less than by using a slur... that is absolutely ridiculous you should have your life ruined for being that vile towards another human bc of their skin. there is absolutely no justifying that. period.
0 likes@Kat C Do you also apply this to black people who are racist against white people? Because if you did there would be very few blacks whose lives would not be ruined judging by that criteria. Or, let me guess, something something white people have societal power so their words are somehow magically worse. Because white people are definitely the ones with societal power when their racism gets their lives destroyed and black people racism gets them no such repercussions. That's definitely biased in favor of whites, right?
1 like@ronnie millsap Let me give you a news flash: Evidence =/= proof
0 likesWithout a confession, and proof, there is nothing the justice system can do.
For once, the system actually did what was right, given how little evidence they found to criminalize Casey.
@Lurk Snitchtongue what are examples of black peoples being racist? like actually racist to the point where it effects white people place/ranking in society. black people can be prejudiced toward white people but they cannot be racist bc black people do not hold societal power over white people. but i know you won’t agree i’m not really looking to have a dialogue w someone like you lmao
1 like@Lurk Snitchtongue also lets say black people can be racist and not just prejudiced.... why would you use black people being “racist” as a gotcha moment instead of condemning both white and black people for being racist... clearly you don’t actually care about white peoples experiencing “racism” from black people
1 like@Kat C So no, in other words you don't apply it equally to black and white people.
1 likeshe doesnt care about anyone but herself... even ran her Dad's reputation through the mud just to save herself... she is indeed the worst kind of human being there exist.
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Her lawyer baez would have defended satan if he could get the news
32 likes@freedomisfromtruth lawyers gotta eat dawg. Shitty system but $$$)
11 likes@John Garcia no there's the shitty system and then there's this
2 likes@freedomisfromtruth He is one of the best I have seen. We need guys like him.
3 likesThy shall not judge
3 likes@Tomáš L. Everyone is entitled to a defence... but the fact that its the person who can best play on the emotions of the jury wins, is a despicable idea, the evidence was damning, not 100% conclusive, but without any other given alternative, the reasonable doubt argument should've been rendered moot... If the child died in a swimming pool and was disposed of... you need to prove this... where is the beyond reasonable doubt here? The defence had no evidence, just speculation... The fact to make a decision not out of feeling sorry or out of anger was not used here, the attorney used the Jury's emotions of feeling sorry to persuade their decision... So immoral. And even if the child had drowned, the charge for negligence should still have been present... she admitted to at minimum, disposing of her child who died due to negligence... yet not guilty period? What a damn joke...
2 likes@moonfrog9878 You are absolutely right.
1 likeBut it's a different problem.
The mom fell for her lies and her dad didn't. I feel like she blamed him to punish him
0 likesBut... she lied about where her daughter was and gave false clues to the police? Isn't that illegal, at least? The jury system in America is INSANE. Disgusting. Her poor parents.
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Yes it's illegal, and she was found guilty of that. The most she could get was 4 years and she had already served 3 while she was waiting for trial, so she was sentenced to time served.
33 likesi think it’s cause she was a charismatic beautiful white woman. if you imagine this being anyone else they’d be in jail for it.
37 likesWelcome to America
8 likesDont pitty her parents, they are just as guilty in my opinion. These people are all mentally troubled. The dynamic of their conversations was insane.
14 likes@SvM Was The Sheet O.J. was rich, famous and universally loved. Class is a much bigger divider than race/sex.
6 likesToo right... we have people arguing over whether it was the jury's fault or the prosecution's fault and I'm over here like, WHY exactly do we force ordinary citizens with little to no education in law or criminal psychology to make life changing decisions in a court of law to begin with?
5 likes@Diego tell that to jussie smollette
0 likes@HaY4t0 the point of the jury is to limit false convictions as much as possible. You have multiple people coming to a decision instead of just one (the judge). Ofc it’s not perfect because of cases like this, but other systems allow judges to have too much power and their personal biases can ruin an innocent person’s life. But also, judges DO have the power to overrule the jury if they think they’re decision is unreasonable, which the judge chose not to do.
1 like@urahairymonster I understand the purpose of a jury. What I don't understand is why jurors aren't required to be versed in law and criminal psychology. Wouldn't such a jury be even more accurate and less easily swayed by emotions? I mean Casey Anthony's entire defense was nothing but emotional manipulation and it still got her acquitted! How is that justice??
0 likes@HaY4t0 because they’re supposed to be your peers, not academics. Someone being versed in law of criminal psychology won’t rid them of bias anyways. But each team (defense and prosecution) has to select and agree on each juror. It seems like the prosecution was too lenient to the defense in this case. But I can’t think of any criminal justice system that is without flaw.
0 likesHer parents knows she’s a pathological liar, that’s why her mom wanted to see her eyes when they’re were talking through the glass.
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nah they still believe her
7 likes@tempo gr she acqused her dad of sexual abuse
40 likesNah
0 likes@tempo gr then why are they fishing for info?
1 like@J Galt and?
1 likebrah they threw her a fake graduation party after she skipped half of 12th grade. they literally celebrated her pathological lying
36 likes@ice la honk good point bro. Though i think they changed their mind after she murdered a child.
2 likes@tempo gr and her parents continued to support her thats a bit twisted
1 likeAnd they enabled her behavior each and every time
6 likes@SattimasPlatform yes they did
0 likescaylee turned 15 this year. fly high babe ❤️
4 likesHer mom does but I don't trust her dad!
0 likesPeople, the daughter inherited it somewhere, she wouldn't just invented her rooted deception skill without witnessing examples, and being nurtured that way, even if accidentally. If my mom and dad were curious about my daughter's death and me being the suspect, they will squeeze truth out of me in any way possible, with bonus of anger coz they know who I am. Plus, they tend to love grandchild more...
0 likes@ice la honk I'm thinking they can know that she is a liar at certain occasions and "forget it" at others, maybe in the end they believed her, but at that moment in the interview it did seem she was doubting her and even wanted to confront it.
0 likesJust want to point out that they aren’t on opposite sides of glass. Each are sitting in front of a monitor with a camera. They aren’t sitting directly across from each other.
1 like@Brenda Faithful Did you know that if parents are strict about a certain topic, their child will do everything they can to go against it? It's common in many households. For example, if the parents of a young teenage daughter are against skimpy clothing, she will always try to wear it behind the parents back. Children get kicks out of doing bad things. Not every child does this, but usually the middle child tends to be more problematic than the first since they are not in the spotlight. The middle child will do anything to get their parent's attention, even if they end up breaking the rules.
1 like@Gryll The Onion especially since she says her ex-husband HURT her when she was a toddler?? How can you expect to be raised normal when you don’t get help even when you were raised in a “moral household”. She really can’t claim her daughter was raised in a moral household if she was hurt by her father or father figure.
0 likes@Brenda Faithful well I think you have your answer. She was hurt as a toddler???? From what you said I can tell you didn’t know this happened but obviously this behavior didn’t come out of nowhere. Her changing when she became a teenager could mean she remembered something traumatic happened to her could could have finally realized something happened to her that shouldn’t have and would explain the switch. My sister has behavior issues but we just recently found out she was molested and she only JUST realized how that was not supposed to happen when she got a bit older. All we can do for family like this is get them HELP. Everyone is a product of their environment even if what they learned isn’t from you specifically.
0 likes@McKenzie Ross Good point! I glanced over the comment and didn't get to that part. A toddler that was abused at a young age will not act "normal" even if they were raised in a "morally right" household. Also, we don't even know what morals they believe in, so this household might not even be so great in the first place. However, since I don't live there and don't know the daughter or parents personally, I conclude my statement. Good point, though. 👍
1 like@McKenzie Ross yes! You are right! There was a couple times when my husband came home and I would take a shower sometimes when he got home because it also gave me a break from her as I was a full time Mom. But at those couple times she was banging on the bathroom door screaming for me.
0 likesI didn't get it?
So, I got out of the shower because she was acting so scared and like something was wrong. So, I opened up the door and she was rt in front of me and finally happy I was there.
Then, I asked my husband what was going on and he said he didn't know and that he was just sitting on the couch watching TV which he was. So, I was really baffled.
I seperated and then my Mom volunteered to take my daughter and I let her as I went back 14 hours away to try and work things out with my husband and it wasn't until later that my Mom noticed odd behavior from her in the tub. Brought her to a sexual assault center and at just under 3 years old.... I got to see her hang her little head and say her Daddy touched her.
What the heck? The last thing I would have ever thought and he was a former cop too. Big time into porn.
It was horrible!! My poor poor daughter!!
She's the one that lost her last born little boy on the day she was seperated from her husband and she was in the same river as her little boy but in a different spot.
The dad apparently fell asleep and the 2 younger boys left and walked down to the river and only one came back.
She was just sick knowing she was in the same river.
She's just broken into pieces and tried commiting suicide and also was diagnosed RAD as a child. It's alot like borderline personality disorder.
I hurt deeply for her and sooooo wished I could reverse time!
@Gryll The Onion I would have the same opinion if I was in your shoes. Bless you.
0 likesYes, a little background on my family and I.
I was a single Mom for about 17 years before I decided to even start dating. No men came home and the boys in the house were my 2 male cats. Lol.
I am a Christian and was raised with Missionaries to Russia.
I was careful what was allowed to be watched on TV and who they were allowed to be alone with...people's houses, etc. I've been a Mother hen over my babies.
My parents did a lot of volunteer work at church and in the area and also were Marriage Counselors.
My mom worked for a division of CPS because her heart went out to abused kids.
My home was always open to other kids that needed a safe place to go as long as they obeyed the rules of the house.
There was alot of love at my house and I've taken 2 parenting courses.
One called: Growing kids God's way thru my church.
The other was Love and Logic.
I read parenting books and still have a few.
I'll tell ya... nothing better than being a Mom. I saw so many kids that their parents didn't want them around and or was absent. My home was open... They all knew they were welcome to any food in the fridge and that our home was inviting, warm and safe.
Now, I didn't have to explain all that.... But decided to. I am 49 today and was at a clients house today and saw 2 little pictures her Grandkids drew for them. My goodness!! Those little cuties! My heart just melted!!
I was very fortunate as a single mom....my job didn't keep me all day and I was usually home by the time school was out and what a blessing that was. A day the park and zoo was a favorite for us!
We also lived in the Country and my clients were in the city....
But, I dedicated my time to go to work, come home, pick up my daughter's and bring them 2 times a week to swim and gymnastics and then go back home and shower and go to bed.
Bless you..
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God yous are so sick 😂😂😂😂 blaming her parents. When Infact her mother was the one who alerted police. Yous seriously need a reality check. Get a grip guys..... Holy shit.
1 likeThey threw a fake party big deal, not the best thing to do in the world I get that.
But to blame any off these parents in this situation is dumb.
I'll say it. Too young to be a mom.
0 likesCasey: “She drowned accidentally. Then I ducked taped her mouth shut and threw her in a swamp.”
1738 likesInvestigator: “that doesn’t make any...”
Casey: “uh-huh.”
Investigator: “...sense”
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the fucked up thing is she still should have gotten a charge called “tampering with a corpse”
137 likes@Hannah Tyson Yeah but didn’t the defense say that it wasn’t her but somebody else who disposed of the body
3 likesturn to Christ and repent before it’s too late because He loves us so much He died for us and God His Father raised Him from the dead and loves us 🥰
21 likesI feel horrible that this made me literally lol
2 likes@olivia gracewhat…
13 likesWhere was this said? I’ve seen two other comments with that
1 likeThis is a pet peeve of mine because I do construction and did HVAC at one point, it's not "duck" tape, its duct tape, because it's for air ducts.
26 likesRight?! As soon as the Defense said her child DROWNED in a family pool... well, wtf was the Duct Tape for?! Why dump her in a swap, in a bag? This jury is what is wrong with the legal system. I wish the Judge could have override their obvious mistake!
23 likes@Marcus Donahue wtf is your problem
5 likes@Stephen Grigg isn't duck tape name brand duct tape though?
3 likes@olivia grace how to do it
0 likes@Chocolate Thunder to repent of your sins means that you change your way of thinking. For example: if you watch porn & maaturbate you stop doing it bc you know it’s bad for your mind & God doesn’t like it. The only thing God wants is a genuine relationship with you. He loves you very much and it’s an incredible journey. God bless you all. If you have any q’s lmk.
2 likes@lol i have a q, i accidentally got white love juice on my bible pages and they are now stuck together. How can i open them without ripping? The crucifixion's my fav to climax to 😔
4 likes@olivia grace yeah, your god and his son Jesus, let a baby die at the hands of its mother. Real cool guys.
2 likes@Stephen Grigg interesting that that was your take home from this video. Not the baby killing mother, but the mispronunciation of a type of tape. Where you on the jury by chance?
3 likes@Kara Kerley there is a brand now. I think that's more recent, like they made it as an inside joke.
2 likes@Joe P I've left plenty of comments calling casey anthony a despicable human being.
0 likesDidn't matter. Baez picked a really stupid jury, and then made up absurd theories. At the very least that should ahve been a hung jury, but that jury wanted out of there because they were trying to make book deals and interviews while inside during the trial.
3 likesThe very few interviews they had, they clearly didn't understand the concept of reasonable doubt. They more, or less acquitted her because they didn't knwo what the motive was. Mom lied on the stand. Baez made up some asinine stories that the evidence showed wasn't true.
Just the fact she waited a MONTH to call the police after she went "missing" and her car smelling like a dead body would ahve been a case closed for me.
@Stephen Grigg MAn...this video has a lot of weirdos on it doesn't? Probably were on her jury.
0 likes@Stephen Grigg no, it's not a joke. Looking it up I just learned it was actually called duck tape because of the materials it's made out of and preceded "duct tape". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape
2 likes@Kara Kerley huh, I didnt know that. I guess either term works but I assumed people calling it "duck" tape was just from a misconception.
1 like@Stephen Grigg I did too for the longest, and I didn't know the history of duck/duct tape until today lol!
0 likes@CrazyMiles cringe
1 likeYou can't scroll through many comments without running into some that seen like they were made by bots doing some cultists proselytizing. The posts are always non sequitur and empty drivel.
0 likes@Kara Kerley Beat me to it lol. Granted, I used to call it "Duck Tape" because as a kid I saw the tape my dad used and it had a duck as the mascot on the packaging. I don't remember the brand name, but don't think it was the actual brand name called Duck Tape.
1 likelmao
0 likesYa I don't get how they won that case?? If she drowned and everyone in the family new but hid the fact of the drowning to police and everyone, wouldn't they all be in trouble???? This case ruling will never make sense to me. What about all the lies, what about the tattoo, and the journal entry. Those were proof she was happy while her daughter was dead. I get so angry every time I see that disgusting B's face.
0 likes@Joe P were*
0 likes@Marcus Donahue Yeah but he was a baby at the time himself...
0 likes@Hannah Tyson you please give it an an example
0 likesShe just seems so irritated by people trying to find HER baby
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LITERALLY thats the word i was looking for... she just seems so frustrated throughout the entire thing, jesus.
15 likes@aliceee
12 likesJudge and Jury: She’s innocent.
Me: Even though she lied so much when she didn’t have to? And she mislead the police so well and is showing narcissistic behavior. An investigator asked her if she was “telling anything that’s untrue” and she replied “No sir”.
Because she's covering up her parents
1 like@Sandy Loraine I hope you’re not saying her parents did it and she’s covering it up? She was willing to throw them under the bus and pretend her dad was assaulting her I doubttttt she’d cover up then actually killing her kid she’d jump on that so quick.
16 likes@Hell Star yeah, I think they are all a part of it. Something is not right.
3 likesGot damn it stop trying to find my missing child!,😡
1 like@aliceee God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
3 likes@🥀Vampiraa🥀 God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
5 likes@olivia grace im jewish
5 likes@aliceee I don't think that concept will compute for her. But if it's any consolation we will be spared having to deal with an afterlife that is filled with people like that.
2 likes@olivia grace Its funny how many rapists, murderers, kidnappers, assaulters, and generally terrible people seem to echo that exact sentiment. Almost like they are using it as a replacement for morality and critical thought, and especially consequences. But hey, that's just what I see! ;)
1 likeCasey actually wanted an abortion when she found out she was pregnant with Caylee but her parents refused to let her abort Caylee. Not defending her, but maybe if her parents had let her get the abortion like she wanted none of this would have happened. Casey never wanted to have a child from the get go
0 likes@Lost Shadow Adoption.
0 likes@Lost Shadow she was a grown ass adult that DID NOT have to listen to her parents so I don’t see how that’s on them at all
1 like@Hell Star Her parents forced her to keep the baby, she was pressured into something she didn't want. That doesn't change the fact that she took her own daughter's life though
0 likes@Lost Shadow her parents CANNOT force her to keep a baby when she is a legal adult with full legal rights over her body...that’s literally just a fact. No matter what they said how they pressured her SHE HAD THE CHOICE, and SHE CHOSE to keep it because they literally cannot force her to keep it they have zero say. So it doesn’t matter if she CHOSE to keep the baby due to pressure from her parents, it was still her choice. That’s literally just a fact they did not force her because they legally have no say, she is fully responsible for giving into whatever pressure they put on her because it was her choice to make and keeping it was the choice SHE made and SHE made alone
1 like@Lost Shadow like I just don’t get how anyone can say she was forced to do anything...they didn’t hold her hostage they didn’t hold a gun to her head the worst that happened was them saying we won’t financially support you or be in your life and she’s the one that said wow don’t want that to happen so I’ll keep it. That’s not being forced to keep it it’s just being put in a hard decision that’s still fully her decision and her decision only
0 likesTo be honest - not being maternal isn't evidence of murder.
0 likesBeing a murder is evidence of being a murder.
@MsLouisez okay but when your baby needs to be found you lead them on a wild goose chase, get pissed at people asking questions, and instead of looking you’re out partying? Come on that’s suspicious and definitely points to murder not an accident.
0 likesCasey: says literally any name
3787 likesScreen pauses
JCS: this person does not exist
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😂
15 likesThe Lie Detector Says That Was a Lie
36 likesXanny the nanny
28 likesI don’t know why I was laughing so hard every time it happened. I really believed her !! 😂😂
4 likes"so that was a fucking lie"
28 likesTheir argument is so stupid... “she drowned” ok so we are just gonna ignore the fact that she had duct tape on her face now? Okay.
26 likesAttention: Xanax is no effective substitute for a real babysitter. Please consult your doctor if you are imagining random suspects during pending investigations.
15 likesi get chills when he says that
2 likesgives me the shivers
0 likes@Anwar Williams Very weird system to let untrained persons decide who is guilty
5 likesThat person does exist, they even sued her for defamation and lost against Anthony..
1 likeShe says them so calmly and so easily that it sounds pretty real. She could definitely fool me 😂
4 likesThe real juliette Lewis should sue casey for defimation of character. I mean how insulting, a top Holywood actress to be degraded to working behind a photobooth at a theme park lol
2 likes@Aj That's actually exactly what the lead investigator she is now living with says, there is no evidence of any ducttape
0 likes@Aj i bet, there was no pool in the backyard in the first place.
0 likes@Ben P lol
0 likesJuliette Louis is real she is a movie star. lol
2 likes@Izzy Kitty exactly!
0 likes@Ben P too bad she cant see this
0 likes@barbarab1001 he was an investigator for the defense, not for the police. Don’t get it twisted! He was hired by her attorney
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesShe literally got away with murder... and anyone who defends her is just as despicable
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@I'm bored There was an overwhelming amount of proof.
34 likes@I'm bored I have an ex girlfriend that is a pathological liar that would even lie about what she ate for breakfast that morning. They sound incredibly believable unless you are actually there to see what actually happened(in this case, seeing what they ate in the morning)
10 likes@I'm bored Dude she killed a baby, all the evidence points to the, the only person who could’ve benefitted from that was casey, all her stories were lies, the way she speaks is exactly how a pathological liar would. SHE WAITED FOR 5 WEEKS BEFORE ANYONE BUT SHE KNEW THAT CASEY WAS MISSING FFS. YOU ARE ACTUALLY SUPPORTING A BABY KILLER WHO LIED HER ENTIRE LIFE.
22 likes@I'm bored jesus, man, how can you even think this bro, how are you able to defend a baby killer. Goddamn this new acab shit is getting outta control.
12 likesJust as? Really?
0 likes@I'm bored troll.
3 likes@I'm bored literally what are you on?? Have u watched all the vid? You can not believe that this cruel monster is innocent
5 likes@I'm bored gr8 b8 lmao
2 likes@I'm bored you cant be serious, you just cant be
4 likesI love seeing everyone attack young broccolini simply because he stated there was no evidence and he watched the whole trial. So did I! There was no evidence she killed her child... it's great that youtubers have the comment sections to exact their judgment on a woman they dont even know. The media and justice system absolutely wasted her time. They found her guilty right away and then did everything to hold that view and project it on ignorant america.
0 likes@Total Badger the judge themselves thought they were guilty, he admitted that the false accusations tainted the jury
2 likes@Aditya 999 doesn’t matter what they thought, the physical evidence to connect the “mother” to the murder matters and there was none. Plus the defense was pretty genius (in a morbid way, but that’s his job and props to him)
0 likes... except for her defence attorneys.
0 likes@Virvum Juggernaut Yep. They just done their job. In a genius way. Maybe not ethically, but genius nontheless
0 likes@Total Badger Jesus man, shes guilty,its very clear even though they don’t have direct evidence, the evidence they have is overwhelming. No human in their right mind would not inform the police after their baby was missing and have a car that smells like a dead body. And even after going to the police lie about everything.
0 likesWhite.
0 likes@Aditya 999 hold up boy, just because policing is shitty beyond reckoning doesn’t mean baby killers are now excused lmao. Obviously the justice system failed here, and tbh Casey’s whiteness probably helped. Doesn’t change the fact that ACAB
2 likes@Dj Trig sorry, what?
0 likes@Dj Trig i don’t even wanna talk to you please don’t reply, i don’t argue with tools
0 likes@Aditya 999 lmao idk how to teach you fundamental reading comprehension...what don’t you understand?
0 likes@Dj Trig no, I understand, again i’m not gonna argue with tools
0 likesI brought some popcorn 🍿🍿
0 likes@Aditya 999 boy I’m not arguing, just dispelling your ridiculous comment that ACAB and another comment about inconclusive evidence in the Casey Anthony trial are somehow related. Damn, work that brain out my guy
0 likes@Dj Trig wait, did you call acab is ridiculous when you supported it in your previous comment, or cant you just write straight? Either way i do agree that acab is ridiculous. and what about the comment that i replied to a guy saying that there wasn’t enough evidence?
0 likes@I'm bored They had overwelming proof, the problem is you don't always need proof to convict someone, the Jury was full if idiots that day.
0 likes@I'm bored thank god, kk bye
2 likes@I'm bored lmaooo well done
0 likesChristine: "If anything happens to Caylee, I'll die, do you hear me? I'll DIE"
1959 likesCaylee's literal mom: "Omg calling u guys?? total waste lol"
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Yep she's literally her mom.
28 likesheartbraking. christine cared so much for caylee and you could tell.
105 likesAs opposed to her figurative mom.
16 likes@Abbigail King - Was that her sister?
3 likes@D W It was her friend
12 likes@D W It was her best friend apparently
10 likes@Professionally Correct 😂😂😂😂
1 likeYes, it was her best friend, CHRISTINA!
2 likeswtf is a "literal mom"?
3 likesCasey should have been an actor
2 likes@Byrons Reward meaning her birth mother
2 likesITT: people that don't know what emphasis is.
4 likes@Alex Richmond no it doesn't mean her birth mother. It means her mother with emphasis on mother to highlight the should -be close and important relationship between mother and daughter (which is absent here)
2 likes@Byrons Reward 👆
1 likeIsn't it crazy how everybody is worried about her daughter - except Casey herself!
3 likesAlthough I do think she did it you can't prosecute her unless you're absolutely beyond a doubt 100% sure if you're 99% sure that that means one out of 100 people are innocent in jail in prison you have to be 100% sure beyond the shadow of a doubt proven you can't be 99% sure it doesn't work that way p.s. I'm only halfway through the video at this point but there are slips like you've been a great dad you've been a great grandfather not that you are a great father a great grandfather you are a great grandfather little slips like that lead me to believe she did it she has inside knowledge
1 like@David Engelman That’s not how that works at all... 99% certainty is more than enough for a conviction. The correct phrase you’re looking for is “proof beyond a reasonable doubt” ...meaning proof that is close to an absolute certainty. But it doesn’t have to be 100%. If you actually needed 100% certainty for every single crime committed, sooo many people would get away with murder- because a lot of the time the only witness was the dead victim, so unless the suspect straight up confesses (which they rarely ever do), technically you’ll never be able to 100% confirm it. So would you rather a killer walk free without consequence on a 1% chance they didn’t do it? No. If it seems far more likely than not that a person has committed a horrendous crime, like with this case, they should absolutely be locked up. To do otherwise would be negligent and dangerous, to let someone who is almost certainly a child murderer run loose (and potentially take another innocent life in the future)
3 likes@Mr. Price no such thing as karma, God will give her what she deserves, either in this life or the afterlife
0 likes@Blue I actually have to agree with David on this one. You can't incarcerate someone unless you're absolutely certain, like, 100% certain, not 99%, because that's still a 1% chance of incarcerating an innocent person.
0 likesIt happens too often. The court is so sure that someone has committed a crime, only to lock them up for decades before finally abjuring the case.
HOW THE FUCK DID THE JURY NOT CONVICT HER WTF
1 likeNOT GUILTY!?
1 likeHer defense attorney... Christ I'd want him on my side if I killed someone, he'd spin a story of how I'd been gangbanged by aliens when I was 17 and sent back in time 5 years and my fingerprints and DNA at the crime scene are actually from a different timeline where I didn't get abducted.
390 likesHe''s fucking good. On the one hand, it's really unsettling to see someone so smart, charismatic, and eloquent tell a story he knows is utterly false as if it's gospel truth. On the other hand he's kind of doing a service for justice in the long run by really pushing the prosecution to overcome his performance, and hopefully the additional technologies and capacity to collect and evaluate physical evidence will rise to the challenge.
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Yeah I’d love to see him try talk that crap to a higher being or GOD himself. Depart from me!
8 likesNo doubt
2 likesYeah he’s definitely good at what he does, and plays a necessary part in the legal system (however flawed it may or may not be). But seeing this kind of stuff makes me extremely hesitant to trust attorneys of any kind.
32 likesHe got Aaron Hernandez acquitted of murder as well. Baez is the lawyer I'd call if i was a killer.
22 likesYep, he is forcing the prosecution to prove, without a shred of doubt, that she is guilty. Does it suck that she is obviously guilty using common sense? Yes, but he is still a good lawyer.
18 likesClinton Leonard Doesn’t make him a good person though.
7 likesBaez will be the legal equivalent of the Monday morning football reel. This guy will go down in defense law lore.
7 likesLol
1 likeI bet you he even fed her the idea of being molested as a child without exactly even saying it, and she would've been like you genius we're 2 of a kind
8 likesThis is one of the best things I've ever read lol
4 likesThis guy tells the jury to not make decisions based on emotion, after strategically telling a story about her father abusing her as if that has anything to do with the facts or evidence of the case. I guess you can call that smart, more like the prosecutors and jury are stupid.
8 likesIsn’t she dating one of her defense attorneys?
1 likeThis response is justice itself.
2 likes@gogoforromeo It does, actually. He has probably defended tons of innocent people as well as he defended Casey. Lawyers just do their job. They don't know if their client is even guilty or not. That's the point.
4 likesClinton Leonard He can come to the same logical conclusion that any jury can. He sees all the evidence provided. “Just doing job” doesn’t make it okay for you to do something downright scummy.
5 likes@gogoforromeo It's not scummy to defend people, even criminals. If lawyers didn't defend criminals the same way they defend innocent people the justice system would not exist. The jury decides your innocence, the lawyer just argues it. Blame the jury if you want to blame the ones who did something wrong.
4 likesYeah he was already a well respected defense attorney -- that case made him into a A-list attorney if he wasn't already. He did something that most people frankly thought was going to be impossible.
1 likeClinton Leonard I’m not saying the jury isn’t to blame. This trial was a pile of horseshit and pretty much everyone knows it.
3 likesYou should google some of his other cases, if you don’t already know them. He is DEFINITELY amazing at his job.
1 like@Clinton Leonard youre just rationalizing something clearly immoral.
1 like@Clinton Leonard "They don't know if their client is guilty or not." How stupid do you think they are while still being such capable attorneys? Technically, all any of us "know" is that we exist. It doesn't change the fact that Casey's guilt is up for about as much debate as gravity, and her attorney knows this better than most. He chose this client and likely felt quite good and accomplished after knowingly helping a child murderer walk free. Yet we keep singing the praises of our justice system as though it cannot be improved upon. Where do we get this notion?
1 like@Last Word No, you are the one rationalizing. You want to live in a perfect world where criminals are not defended and we just lock them all up immediately with zero mistakes. The truth is that real life is not that easy, and we afford the same rights to every suspect because, no matter what your opinion is, they are INNOCENT - until proven guilty.
1 like@Genarii You keep saying we all know she's guilty, but it wasn't proven. That IS our justice system "working." I know this time it upset us, but I am glad the system exists because it could be you or me, and we could be innocent.
0 likesBritton Andrews Agreed 100%. I have a family member who works for Legal Aid - it’s unfortunate but they are definitely needed.
0 likesHe doesn't KNOW it's utterly false at all. He would get disbarred for lying for his client. Casey is lying to him too. He would have his doubts like we all do but that is not him lying.
0 likes@Clinton Leonard criminal is someone who has committed a crime. The trial is to determine whether or not they are a criminal (guilty). Lawyers who defend people they know are criminals to help them get away with a crime are immoral people. You're just rationalizing immoral behavior and your entire reply was a 'no you' and then a long winded strawman. People rationalize other immoral behaviors too like 'if i didnt do it somebody else would have'.
1 like@Last Word But how could a lawyer know their defendant is a criminal if they haven't had a trial yet? Until the trial they are innocent by law, and therefore it is not amoral to defend them. Having a fair system, even if a few bad people escape, is so much more moral than having a system where your guilt does not need to be proven.
1 like@Zissou Moonshot yeah once the death penalty was on the line most parents I believe would suddenly do anything to keep there child alive over finding out the truth
0 likesHis job isn't to believe Casey's story or not. His job is to go to the government and say "prove it" and poke holes in their stories. And the government failed to prove it that day. If you believe everyone is entitled to a defense, there is nothing wrong with him as a person or his role in the justice system. He plays a very important role in terms of our freedoms and liberties.
2 likes@Will mckee Thank you!
0 likesClinton Leonard the lawyers have access to the same information as the prosecutors but a good lawyer can manipulate the judge and jury for a favorable outcome. This is why they are not under oath to tell the truth. The trial is essentially a fight between the prosecutor and the defence. Prosecutors are also guilty of doing shady stuff to win cases where innocent people are put behind bars. So while you can argue that both prosecutors and defence is needed, it is morally reprehensible, evil even to knowingly get someone off the hook who by any reasonable standard aught to be found guilty. The Justice system failed and the defence lawyer is a part of that.
1 likeStill blows my mind how she wasn't convicted. Jurors were stupid.
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The fact you think 12 people who sat and witnessed the entire case and testimony from both prosecution and the defence were “all stupid”, while you witnessed none of it, is pretty stupid.
29 likesI did too.
58 likesBut the more I look into the case; the more I understand why the jury came to the decision that they did.
We have the benefit of hindsight and have the benefit of knowing all the information.
The truth is the police and prosecution overconfidence botched this case. They missed key information like the web search on Firefox. Only finding out about that web search after the trial was over.
The police could have found Caylee's body a lot sooner and have a lot more evidence if they actually listened to one of witnesses.
They also presented a ridiculous theory that Casey, a high school dropout that couldn't hold a job, was smart and technical enough to make chloroform. And shoddy evidence from her diary that wasn't from 2008 but actually 2003.
The prosecution case was weak. They couldn't prove premeditated murder. Heck, they couldn't even prove that she killed her daughter.
Good ol American “justice”....we fail over and over. OJ, Robert Blake, Casey Anthony, and countless others. It’s beyond time to correct the system.
7 likesIf you can stand it watch the Dan Abrams versus Nancy Grace show about it. They have that weird little alternate juror on the show who, to me, was drawn into Casey’s story and would have voted to acquit. He now believes it was her fault. He also mentions that he didn’t feel George was a credible witness. It was like he was following a different trial
2 likesIt’s crazy she did she spun the lie long enough and it worked itself out again!!!
5 likesInnocent until proven guilty, better for 100 guilty men to go free than 1 innocent man to be imprisoned
8 likes@Holly Harrison I was thinking about doing that myself, is it worth my time? I see that its all on youtube
1 like@G I feel like that's reaching a bit, the case is so well known that they would have gotten notoriety even if they convicted her
1 like@Aurelius do what?
1 like@Kaitlin M thank you!
1 like@ZZZ I watched the whole trial and you can too. Take a few weeks and go watch. Then get back to me. But I won’t be doing your research for you, toots.
2 likes@HeWho C And you're the coach.
0 likesFlorida FLU
0 likesThe judge bears some responsibility here too; he could've rejected the jury's verdict.
0 likesHer parents are pathetic. They’ve created this monster. A full-blown graduation party for someone that didn’t graduate…it’s okay to lie, we’ll cover for you - and the dad was a cop?!? He should know better. Instead, they’re more worried about showing face.
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VH What do you mean that ex cop should know better? With the amount of bad cops on the streets acting as if they own the streets literally, I’m surprised you said that. To top it all off Casey’s parents molded her into what she’s today, a cold hearted killer that got away with murder!
20 likesI can't believe how the parents let her get away with everything. And the way Casey is talking to her mom, I could never be so disrespectful towards my parents
10 likesIkr? Everyone who is saying they are not to blame is a fool. They raised her to be like this.
3 likes@Brett Milo to a degree yes. You ultimately chose who you want to be once you’re an adult.
2 likesProof positive, just because you are a cop doesn't mean you are good!
1 like@mmven1 The parents have some serious issues in that they don't want to have their child feel disdain towards them. So much so they will do anything to please her and love her.
1 likeI don’t agree. It’s one thing to want to make your child happy & try to cover for them. It’s another thing to murder your child. Her parents aren’t murderers, & normal humans don’t expect murder to happen in comparison to lying about graduating.
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0 likesIt's really hard to face the reality that your child is a monster and it's easier to deny it. However, that denial has killed a child so I don't feel that bad for the parents. They could have potentially prevented this.
1 like@Zed that’s sounds like my ex-fiancé, but he did that to me instead. Fully engaged to me, 5 year relationship but he was happily living a single life last year and lying to the other girl he was single. Don’t get me started that his ex girlfriend prior to me did exactly the same to him, and his ex reminds me so much of Casey and her parents just nurturing this pathological liar! It’s crazy
0 likesThis actually pisses me off beyond reason, I can't see how she wasn't found guilty of any of the charges, its fucking astounding.
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Its insane. I remember watching this play out in real time. I pray she gets what she deserves.
80 likesBecause the jury was biased AF they knew it was the death penalty and didn't wish that and her.
41 likes@Sightless Sniper i see you’re replying to multiple people under this video, talking about the oj case. Why is it that so important for you to mention here? Don’t be mad, im not disagreeing- just curious.
75 likesYou know, I'll never understand the jury thing in the US...
12 likes@Sage the Libra we all know why bro, racism is a disease
30 likes@Sage the Libra They’re just going for a race baiting argument when no one here is talking about race. Just let them filter by and don’t engage.
51 likes@Jayako it's due process. It's so a person's fate for criminal offenses isn't left up to one person. In theory, it also puts a larger burden of proof on the state so it's harder to just pick someone to throw in jail. Sure, there are flaws, but it comes from trying to protect the rights of citizens against government.
6 likes@Mike Honcho I really have the impression it was a very useful thing in the past, but that it is counterproductive nowadays. It would obviously make much more sense to put experts in a jury, or at least have more emphasis in judicial matters during education, or at least be required to pass an exam as demanding as in the military. This last one is actually difficult, because without incentives most people would fail on purpose. Otherwise we reach this situations where attorneys slyly seek emotional manipulation, subtracting objectivity from the cases.
6 likesTotally agree! To me it's absolutely obvious that she is GUILTY from tip to toe!!!!
2 likes@Sightless Sniper first of all, there is no conclusive evidence that OJ killed those people. Secondly, how is that relevant here?
1 like@My best nugget how about the blood in the bronco? You know the blood that matched both of theirs? Lol love when people try that shit.
3 likes@Crack Dad yea they really messed up with OJ huh🤣
2 likes@Crack Dad I don’t really give a damn though. Everybody knows your ability to beat a case is dependent entirely upon your financial status. Just a normal day in the US justice system
2 likesYeah... Florida's always been a fucked-up place...
1 like@Thisnamesucks True. The worst punishment for the worst people shouldn't be death. There are things worse than death. Death is too good for them.
1 like@Evan Noyes it’s annoying he’s commenting this and maybe for him it’s about race but for me, the guy got away with that murder and wrote a book about how he would murder his wife and it was exactly like how she died. It was weird to me. And he too was very laid back like Casey was in court. But it’s annoying he’s commenting about that case on this video.
2 likes@cheetamcu I don't understand man. So it's a choice between death penalty and letting her go free? Wtf
0 likesI've heard it was because the prosecution jumped the gun and only went for first degree murder, when they should've went for a bunch of other charges to try and get her. Not going against anybody here, I agree she is pure evil and should've been locked away forever, where she probably would've been destroyed in prison because as far as I'm aware even prisoners hate people who hurt kids
1 likeI love this - brilliant lawyer, smart defendant, stupid prosecutors looking for the death penalty when they don't have a solid case (they couldn't get a confession). A great example to remind us all how biased, inconsistent, and unfair the US legal system is.
2 likes@Sightless Sniper he’s fucking rich and famous.. so no it’s not as surprising as this
3 likesShe's white
2 likes@Manny Wilson lmao racism is the truth i love being racist so much fun and its also very based
0 likes@Jayako It's to help prevent innocent people found guilty. There's a saying "It is better 100 guilty persons should escape, than that one innocent person should suffer."
1 like@Dix3n That result can be perfectly obtained with a jury formed by judges.
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0 likes@My best nugget "No conclusive evidence OJ...". OK
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0 likesHer parents threw her a graduation party and told everyone that she graduated with honors and it was all a lie!. Well the parents helped to create the monster that killed their granddaughter and then the monster turned on them. Now they have to live the rest of their lives with that knowledge.
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Good point
6 likesThats where it started.
15 likesSociopaths have no problem living in denial. It's their natural state of being.
20 likesI was looking for this comment. Her parents are great liars too. What parents would go that far?
23 likesI said the same things. They created the monster that she is instead of spanking her up big time and punishing her for her wicked behaviours. Now their granddaughter pays for the wicked behaviour...Aaaaahhhh...Yuck!
9 likesHer parents are enablers. They created this monster, definitely.
1 likeYep. Enablers. I heard on a podcast when she got pregnant and everyone was asking about it her mom was denying that she was pregnant to everyone who asked...while she was visibly pregnant lol
3 likesNo. The parents did not deserve this. Nor was anything they did anywhere near what Casey did.
0 likes@Megan Jennings Ooh I'd like to listen to that podcast! What is it called please?
0 likesyellowllama the podcast is called Last Podcast on the Left. They do a 2 episode series on this case and occasionally drop tidbits if she or her family show back up in the news. Just a warning the hosts are pretty vulgar and occasionally off-color and while they absolutely drag the perpetrators (one of the hosts is an actor and he mocks Casey’s comments in nasal Valley girl voice) they never ever mock the victims. They do their research and are super respectful of the victims but won’t hesitate to attack the perpetrators.
0 likesIf only she could have just given her child to her own parents. She could have left her and gone on her merry sociopathic way.
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She knew her parents would keep trying to make her spend time with Cayley. She wanted to be free to spend time with her boyfriend and be a loser
16 likes@Buttered Timbers Well its not actually considered as a disorder, its being devoid of empathy. They can be very calm and calculated people.
1 like@A I The defense will say anything. For one they said she didn't know how her daughter died then at the end they said well actually she drowned in a pool. Despite having duck tape found on her mouth. This case is ridiculous.
2 likes@DeOranjed It said in the beginning that she was tested and found to be normal in mental state. A lack of empathy would have likely been discovered during this time. IDK
0 likes@Buttered Timbers Are you serious lol You think she cared about anyone other than herself. I know you're playing with me lol If you actually believe that then it's just a reflection of you. Prison's are full of sociopath's. Bye.
2 likes@DeOranjed I know what a sociopath is, the literal definition of it is a mental disorder... I just wanted you to change that because it could be used as an excuse for her behavior: "She was disordered" instead of "She was a terrible human being with no reproach"
0 likes@Buttered Timbers The Calmest people you could ever meet can be sociopath's. Its not a disorder by itself, leave it at that.
2 likes@Buttered Timbers This is the most bizarre and frustrating case of injustice I have ever seen. If she shouldn't go to prison then no one should. So manipulative and devoid of empathy, It just is what it is. I do understand how you feel though.
2 likes@Buttered Timbers The thing is I just think of a disorder as "something which cannot be controlled" She should be in prison because she was more calculated and focused than most people. All the best.
0 likes@DeOranjed
0 likessociopath
NOUN
a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.
@Buttered Timbers Regardless of any definition she has no empathy for any one else. It's a disorder just to be against the norm. Most people have something which could be defined as a disorder and I don't care for text book mind's. We can all agree the out come of this case is nuts!
0 likesI agree! a lot of people seem to forget that a sociopath can also easily fool people and trick the tests and experts. How can you get an accurate conclusion if the entire experiment is dishonest and shrouded in a manipulative fog.
1 like@Buttered Timbers BTW the term "Sociopath" has never been a professionally recognized term so it doesn't have an actual definition, so it can't be defined as a disorder. I think you're think of the other word. Its not recognized in the UK or the US.
1 like@joey monaco That's a good point
0 likesShe is definitely a sociopath, those experts simply didn't have enough time with her to establish a proper diagnosis, something like that isn't something easily seen after a few visits.
0 likes@L. Wyse108 Doesn't always work like that. I know siblings who are the exact opposite to each other. But who knows what's going on...
0 likesthis is ridiculous. when she was found not guilty she literally smirked. May this child rest in piece
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I know the baby is having a better time with God then living on this earth with someone who didn’t deserve her
33 likesThis makes me so angry but you know what something will happen she won't get away with it. Karma never forgets nor does God suffer the little children come unto me. She is evil and something bad is coming for her.
12 likesThis is insane .... where’s justice ....justice for the child
0 likesGods sake sorry but peace*
2 likes@Anne Frank Anne Frank believed in God
0 likes@Anne Frank How about you stop pretending to be her if you can't even get her beliefs right. You're disrespectful.
0 likes@Anne Frank Reread your comment to @Brooke Miller when you told her to "gtfoh" when she said Caylee was probably in heaven. What's your problem with someone wishing a dead child is in a happier place? You're rude.
4 likes*Peace
1 likeAnne Frank you’re weird
0 likesYeah, you'd think she'd be disappointed yet she wasn't. Instead she was pleased.
1 like“where she’d babysit them together” .. the fact that man didn’t even have a child and literally everyone was a made up person 😭😭. like wtf
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im losing my mind over this whole plot of hopkins how was not enough to nail her??? and her job? leading them there and then laughing oh i dont work here
194 likeshow dare a person provide child care
5 likes@Eric Jurgens huh? they are talking about how Casey said that Zanny would baby sit Caylee, and hopkins son Zack together, even though hopkins had no kids.
70 likes@Shaina Glenn guys what happened to the car that had a dead body????? did they dismissed that?
33 likes@Shaikha AM It smelled of decomposition, body wasn't in there. But still, no DNA or something to prove it was there at one point?
27 likesyeah like...did she think they weren't going to ask?
5 likes@The God Emperor of Mankind they actually did test the stained carpet in the trunk where her body was, and had k9s verify the scent of decomposition. so i have no clue how she got away with this
16 likesAnd the babysitter didn’t exist either
7 likesLmao she’s a pathological liar, it’s truly incredible
4 likesThe craziest part for me was... so the babysitter watched both the kids, but took your kid. So who’s watching Jeff’s fake kid now? He just casually loses a nanny that took another child and not word for either parent? How in the world was she able to get away with it
17 likes@Rea Z literally.. and it took “more than 25 mins” to walk to the back with them just for her to LAUGH .. like oopsie daysies i don’t actually work here ?? like what was her plan ? and it’s unbelievable they actually let her get away with it. baffling honestly 😭.
9 likesSame
0 likes@semprejgloh cause she doesn’t exist either
0 likesshe gave the kid a whole name 😭😭😭
4 likesif she had been tried in most other courts under the same circumstances (figuratively speaking) then i feel like she most likely would have been found guilty sometimes its like its just the luck of the draw and in this case it was a bunch of moronic jurors and dirty lawyers failing to keep the key incriminating details of the case front and center in their minds and in court, even those detectives sitting in a room giggling like schoolgirls with her should have remembered at some point that at best she is still very guilty of some very sick behavior, you don't have to be her enemy at that point but sure as hell don't be her friend, i will say though she is a class act manipulator and her depraved lawyer was just perfect for her
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0 likes@Darng I mean I know that. I’m just pointing out the flaws in her nanny excuse. Like who loses a nanny and then just goes on with their life while the other parent (Casey) deals with the fact the same nanny took 1/2 of the kids? Like that doesn’t even make sense.
2 likesyeah I'm so confused, she lied about everything and it was all proven to be lies but she still walks free?!?!? meanwhile there are numerous innocent people in jail that got put in jail off of nothing but a feeling from the jury. This world is very interesting.
2 likesBlatantly guilty
0 likesUGH when they read the "not guilty" verdict SHE WAS HIDING SMILES😭
460 likesOur system of justice FAILED Caylee
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It failed Trayvon Martin too.
25 likesFlorida.
tecums3h That kid failed his self.
20 likesNo, it was the people IN that system that failed Caylee. It's every individual that either can't solve 2 + 2 or just decide not to do their job.
3 likes@Adonia oh burned, that heart at the end really got him
4 likes@Oliver Skatt mhmm 15 year old being followed by a 30 year old in the middle of the night failed himself lol
7 likes@FemaleAnimeMaster also all of the people on the jury. Her mother got away with murder, the system failed Caylee
2 likes@Austin Puffpaff actions have consequences. Don't assault people in Florida, damn near everyone has a ccp in this state.
2 likesIts called “dupers delight”
1 likeEdward Marshall george zimmerman, an armed man, started the entire altercation with treyvon martin, an unarmed 15 year old boy, after following him for several blocks in the middle of the night. it’s pretty apparent why trayvon was scared, and its sad that george couldn’t just report trayvon to the authorities instead of trying to take matters into his own hands.
4 likes@Austin Puffpaff EXACTLY 💯
0 likesFYI: "Zanny" does exist in a sense. Casey gave her daughter an addictive drug called xanax, nicknamed xannie, so Caylee was just always passed out while her mother went out partying
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That’s messed up.
109 likesTechnically Xanax was the babysitter
203 likesGo after Casey Anthony
13 likesI don’t think that’s true bro, a baby would die if they were constantly given Xanax no?
6 likes@CashOutVasquez it's the same technique some beggars with kids use. notice how the kids are always sleeping? cus they are constantly drugged (either alcohol or some other drug).
71 likes@CashOutVasquez she did eventually die from a xanax overdose allegedly. Casey would keep her in the backseat of the car dosed up on xanax while she was partying with her friends and one day she gave her too much (allegedly).
98 likes@CashOutVasquez That's what a lot of people theorize happened - she accidentally overdosed her, then had to cover everything up.
50 likes@CashOutVasquez Small doses, no.
4 likes@CashOutVasquez nope. You only die of a xanax overdose if it's mixed with different drugs.
18 likesI could take 50 xanax pills with no tolerance and id be hella fucked up but I wouldnt overdose. Good question though!
@MrMajorasOcarina but also Caylee was a young child, doses are different
25 likes@Jessi Cat but she google searched for suffocation and "foolproof" death methods?
33 likes@MrMajorasOcarina facts
0 likes@MrMajorasOcarina it could still happen though
0 likesThis is why I believe in the theory that Casey killed her unintentionally (doesn't make it right at all though) and just overdosed her. That or she used too much chloroform.
10 likes@♡grac♡ chloroform actually doesn't really work as a sedation method it is used as a cleaning agent, but it could still work to an extent
3 likes@CashOutVasquez That is one theory, that the baby eventually died from it. But not necessarily. It can be harder to poison a person that you might think.
0 likesHoly shit
0 likes@Marcus Boyo thoughts of her internet searches?
0 likes@Nah I'm good chloraform was used in the 50s on some cases to sedate kids for surgery, my dad included, it works but makes u super sick after you come to 😬
3 likes@Sniffany sneezans I did not know that
1 likeExactly. This was exposed by her friend via texts and it was like a code word inside joke type thing. She would say things like “oh don’t worry I can come, xanny the nanny got her sleeping” type shit.
3 likes@Jessi Cat Exactly right, that’s exactly how Caylee died and the reason Casey couldn’t present it as an accident when she first died-the autopsy would have shown the Xanax. She just lies so easily.
3 likes@MrMajorasOcarina she was a child though and barely weighed anything. It could have caused a number of issues resulting in death.
0 likes@GladditsOver it really wouldn’t take much to cause the death of a young child.
0 likes@CashOutVasquez I believe I got drugged as a kid. I'm alive
0 likes@phoenix rexx I'm pretty sure the whole "Internet search" had to be dropped because the company that did the search fucked up and had to fess up to their mistake, thus bringing everything they said into question.
0 likesYou lot need to look at this case properly- I've read untold comments about her not having anymore children when she did infact, go on to have another child!!
@Marcus Boyo Hey, question since you're a Pharmacist, wouldn't Xanax actually have a paradoxical reaction, doing the opposite of what it does with adults?
0 likes@Leandro Tomas Cuadra the opposite of sedation? Nah
3 likesThat’s a common rumor, but it’s also worth noting that there is in fact a person named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, who lived near Casey and apparently met her a few times. It would be consistent with her other lies if Casey just grabbed a random name that she remembered from an acquaintance and used it to add credibility to her story.
1 like@CashOutVasquez no its xanax not rat poison
0 likes@Sniffany sneezans I thought it was Ether they used, not chloroform. It’s in an episode of M*A*S*H when they run out of sodium pentathol.
0 likesEXACTLY!!!!!!
1 likeWTF... got here randomly. IF the child died in the pool then why was she duck taped? if the child died by accident how can the mother continue her life, partying and behave like nothing happened?
1 likeThis fact that her best friend cares more about her daughter makes me sick. Caylee deserved far better than this
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I about cried listening to her best friend say she’d die if anything happened to Caylee. So sad.
48 likesHer daughter would be nearly my age if alive...that's so sadenning
1 likeWait it makes you sick that her friend cared more about the missing child then the sad sad mom? Interesting
0 likes@Booop (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧ I believe you misunderstood what I meant. The fact that the best friend cares more about Casey's daughter, than Casey's care for her own daughter < this was implied, is sick. I don't care about Casey lol.
0 likesim absolutely petrified -_-
0 likes"foolproof suffocation"
0 likesCasey: ehehehe ;)
after fabricating her daughters entire babysitter, claimed she was taken but when found was DEAD IN WATER she still got not guilty???? the justice system is a joke, especially when it comes to children
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Those jurors had every detail to understand the truth, but they couldn't even find her guilty of abuse or neglect. I was so disappointed in that jury. I don't think they understood "reasonable doubt".
147 likesIt's even worse than you think, we are surrounded by idiots.
68 likesYou should blame the idiotic juries that judged her as innocent because they believe her. There's even a clip on here of a female jury that set her free as innocent telling the camera that she's completely innocent and will always believe her and never change her mind. Like wow, she managed to manipulate the jury. A female jury saying she didn't kill her daughter and she will always believe her innocent. So messed up.
75 likesexactly, i really hope they reopen the case
19 likes@bababooey Now that she’s been found not guilty, she can never be charged for it again. Even if they found 4k footage of Casey killing her child today, they could not charge her for it
47 likesSome people have that voodoo.
4 likes@FOV Educate yourself. The jurors knew she was guilty but could not convict her because Caseys attorneys did a fantastic job of picking apart the horrible prosecution team.
16 likes@Thomas Daniels the prosecution teams immaturity on providing the evidence to the jury shouldn’t affect the sentencing due to the amount evidence that was in fact provided… hard proof too.
25 likes@xZero as long as the statute of limitations isn't over and new compelling evidence is found I think she can be retried, just not solely on the same grounds
5 likes@QuDaFool really? Forgot about OJ have we?
7 likesthey put oj in jail for like 17 years with technically no priors for "stealing" his own property back. So id say they def made sure he was punished if not to the extent they wld have liked. They just left this bitch alone and never pursued her again. One of them started dating her lol
3 likes@QuDaFool that’s got nothing to do with colour. Both were acquitted despite overwhelming evidence. Race doesn’t need to be on the ingredient list for every event, you know.
5 likes@bababooey they can’t. Unless they can find a new crime to charge her with, you cannot get charged again for a crime you were already charged with. (You murder your kid. You’re found not guilty. They can’t charge you again with murdering your kid. They could charge you with abuse, with assault, with murder of someone else if they have the info. But not murder of your child again.
1 likeThe nanny was real. Casey couldn't have known the babysitter was so incompetent.
0 likes@Chad Zellerdid you not watch the video at all?
8 likes@Megan Mercedez I watched most of it. It is a very one-sided, edited hit piece on Casey. Anyone can be made to look bad in a one hour video taken out of context.
1 like@Chad Zeller even police reports say the nanny was fabricated. it’s nothing about making casey look bad, it’s about her lying about literally everything
6 likes@Megan Mercedez You don't know that. The police were out to get Casey from the start. Refusing to look at other suspects and evidence.
1 like@Chad Zeller ah yes, because looking for a nonexistent babysitter for weeks was “out to get casey from the start”
7 likes@Chad Zeller not to mention the fact the man who casey said had introduced her to said babysitter said himself he doesn’t have kids nor did he introduce her to a babysitter. “zanny” doesn’t exist.
6 likes@Chad Zeller are you also gonna excuse her diary entries and the google searches she made? “i made the right decision i’m happy now.” and “fool proof suffocation” please do a little research or at least watch the full video before defending a child killer
8 likes@Megan Mercedez You have no evidence there wasn't a babysitter. Zanny is a real person.
0 likes@Megan Mercedez The supposed diary entries were misrepresented. That one was likely written before Caylee was even born - many years before it was claimed.
0 likes@Chad Zeller there’s tons of evidence you just refuse to research it
6 likes@Chad Zeller and please continue ignoring my other arguments too
5 likesNot really, the prosecution failed and fucked this trial up. They were unable to prove she was guilty because of the circumstances of evidence
1 likeWomen always get lighter sentences and treatment in the court systems, its always been a joke.
2 likes@Master Jay It's about privilege. Race is often part of it. Judges are hardly immune to privilege.
0 likes@Megan Mercedez Is he trolling? I noticed he never responded, nor deleted.
0 likes@Tuvoca and what privilege is that?
0 likesGuys.. im also more then convinced she killed her, but unlike many of you i realize that its not evidence, but rather all the suspicipus behavour that convince me. Hence there is no way to actually know. Even if you feel like you know. Its weird and almost disgusting, but thats your great nation of America.
1 likeWater? Marsh...
0 likes@Susanna Why?? Because if a valid proof is found afterwards, it must be taken into consideration right? What is this system..
0 likes@Chad Zeller you're either trolling or another proof why the jury system should be abandoned
0 likesthis is why the concept of a jury is just beyond me. these are just normal citizen with no special training whatsoever. imagine you want to become a judge and studying, gaining experience and what not for years only for some random people to call the shots. civilians can be easily manipulated that's why we use trained professionals. in most european countries Casey Anthony would've been convicted because we don't have stupid juries (for the most part). trained professionals are way harder manipulated than some randos who wanted to play judge for a day.
2 likes@Chad Zeller i really can't say if you're trolling or just incredibly stupid. I'm really bad at spotting subtle trolls
2 likesIf it was the dad case over in 5 minutes
1 like@Brenda Mares don’t bring race into something that doesn’t involve race brenda.
2 likes@Dick Sherman oh ok so i did misunderstand. english is not my first language so sometimes the real meaning is lost to me. thank you for clarifying though, this is indeed very interesting information
0 likes@Chad Zeller you literally did not watch the video .
0 likesRight, but the babysitter could have drown her in the pool or whatever nonsense she made up. Obviously not, but those two things aren't exactly connected.
0 likesYes I have come to the same conclusion.
1 like@QuDaFool That's right. Completely outrageous lies and everyone believed HER.?!?
0 likes@peps the baby sitter is not real . you never watched the video
0 likes@peps christ almighty i don't think i understood you correctly don't mind me
0 likesAwh Christina was genuinely worried for her bestfriends baby, was emotional, and all Casey could say was "what a waste of time"
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I know! She even trashes her during a phone call because she was annoyed that her friend was on her child’s side rather than on hers!
47 likesI could not believe she said that ..like how was she not found guilty just based off of that call, wtf!! Lol
23 likesthis part of the video ruined me. Her own best friend was in tears at the thought of anything happening to her daughter and she basically told her to shut up and give the phone to someone else.
14 likesWhere was the father?
0 likesShe acts ANNOYED that her parents say “everyone in the country is looking for our Caylee”
2973 likes.....”I know mom....” 🤯
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she’s like i know mum.... that’s the problem 😩
168 likeslmao
2 likesI would really like to know, how we got from caylee was missing a month an grandparents had been calling to see her.
16 likesToo her daddy had her an she drowned in the pool
This is one messed up story.
😂😂😂
0 likesLike number 1k👏
0 likesIt’s the same response you’d give if you were told that you’re car payment is overdue. Her inner guilt (or at least whatever equivalent to guilt Casey is capable of feeling) translates what her mom says as an accusation, when really it’s meant to uplift her.
1 likeit was an immediate red flag when she starts talking about caylee having 'had' grandparents, how lucky she is to have 'had' them - clear that she knows she is already dead. so sad.
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the red flags started coming in when she didn’t even bother to call the police and instead went to smoke marijuana with her boyfriend
45 likes@burgerthe immediate red flag is that her mother called the police before casey did even though casey knew she was missing for 31 days
19 likes"Foolproof suffocation" "lied about her job" "created fake people" "kept quiet for THIRTY ONE days" jury: not guilty:)
182 likesRest in peace Caylee. I'm so sorry this happened to you and I'm so sorry you never got justice <3
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Just one part of the reason we need some sort of professional jury situation. We have far too many morons running around that cannot be trusted to make such monumental decisions. It goes the other way too, look at all the innocent people being released after DNA testing became available.
4 likesOn the flip side, if a dude was convicted of murdering his wife solely on the fact he had affair you would be flipping out. Double standards make you look foolish!
3 likesI would say an affair is far more telling of your immorality than lying. Don't get me wrong, she's responsible for Caylee's death but we will never know if it was apathy or malice.
The computer search for "fullproof suffocation" wasn't revealed until many years after the trial
0 likes@dRG It's because of what she lied about, not the simple fact that she is a liar in general...
1 like@David alright, the duct tape over her mouth, Casey partying during that whole time her child was missing (viva Bella?) and her incredible litany of lies to the police from the start were all out though, right? Doesn't seem like that search was the missing puzzle piece.
1 like@Marshma808 still doesn't prove a murder
0 likeshow was she charged not guilty but when i look it up on google it says she killed her??? she obviously did so did she eventually get charged guilty?
1 likeThe jury was ignoring the blatant fact that after her daughter “drowning in the pool”, she literally went out partying. It what caylee would’ve wanted ffs
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The jury didn't ignore that. The jury, when interviewed after the trial, said they did believe Casey murdered her daughter but that the state didn't prove their case for 1st degree. Blame the cops. They botched the investigation by refusing to search the area where the body was found for months, because it was full of snakes. Blame the prosecution for overreaching on the charges and not constructing a good theory of the crime. Baez was absolutely right in his summation of this case. The DA's case was entirely based on Slutty Mother, nothing substantive, and the jury RIGHTLY saw that wasn't enough to put someone on death row. Too bad the DA didn't go for a lesser charge. Casey would probably be in prison now.
56 likes@TheCoffeeNut711 Exactly. If you compare this to the Darlie Routier case, you will see that cops using the subsequent behavior of the defendant is not good evidence. Darlie shouldn't be in prison right now based on the state's case but her jury was too enamoured of the story the cops told about Bad Mommy to see that the evidence was thin in that one. Also, the state didn't go for 1st degree only with Routier, which gave the jury an out to convict her of a lesser charge. The FLA DA screwed up the Anthony case so badly.
6 likesBe careful with the details. She was partying and looking up suffocation back on the 9th while she claimed the drowning occurred on the 16th. She had to account for her positive demeanor and internet history so she moved the date of death to a more convenient time.
4 likes@Abe Buckingham The prosecution wasn't able to establish who made those searches according to their own timeline and theory of the crime. You may be right, but it was the DA's job to construct the theory as you describe. They had two years. They couldn't do it.
0 likes@oliviatree The incompetence of the prosecution is obvious as they failed to secure a conviction in this case. The physical evidence is overwhelming.
1 like@Abe Buckingham It really wasn't. The body was too decomposed to form a coherent timeline by the prosecution. Blame the cops for that. They refused to search that particular area, though they were called out twice to do so, because it was full of snakes. So the body was left for months gleaning very little evidence for the prosecution. The prosecution couldn't come up with an adequate timeline for Casey's movements that explained the searches or what exactly she was doing for the month alone with Caylee. The prosecution relied on the police interviews, which they bulloxed totally based on the video's JCS posted here, to prove Caylee was a liar and that's about it. Being a liar doesn't make one guilty of 1st degree murder. Being a Slutty Mommy doesn't make one guilty either. What Baez did was extraordinary. He cut through all the biases and the weak prosecutorial case to make it clear to a jury that they couldn't send Casey to her death based on overwhelming emotion and speculation. Not an easy task, but he did it.
6 likesFred masking your pain means going out partying and acting like nothing bad is happening? It wasn’t her masking her pain, it was her manipulating. She broke to her father and mother, if she spent her whole life masking her pain then why show it there? Every time they mentioned not guilty, you could see her smile trying to come out.
2 likes@FemaleAnimeMaster They may have had moral qualms. How are we supposed to know if they did or didn't? It had nothing to do with attitude. The prosecution failed to prove their case for 1st degree murder.
3 likes@damian helbert You don't understand the power of withholding emotion when it's demanded of you? Yes, Casey would "break" as you say whenever her own pain was the focus. But a real emotional manipulator would have been wailing about Caylee for cameras and cops, yes? A real sociopath tries to utilize emotions for effect rather than stifle them altogether.
0 likes"Don't slut-shame my client. Girls can have fun ok?"
0 likes@oliviatree You should actually blame the public outrage calling for the initial 3rd degree charge to be upped to a 1st.
1 likeAns the fact that her body was found with ductape on her mouth ffs, what a joke.
2 likes@TheCoffeeNut711 but what if all that happened plus you put duct tape on their mouth and nose and left them in the woods?
0 likesIt wasn't ignored but even if it was, it's not against the law to go out partying after your child has died.
1 like@Robert Nelson The DA didn't have to react to the national outrage. Agreed with how the public exposure was a factor in screwing up this case.
4 likesoliviatree they had other charges. They had aggravated abuse of a child and voluntary manslaughter in the 3rd degree. They acquitted her of all of it. Go look at the verdict and then get back to me
2 likes@Holly Harrison Again, because the finding of the body took so long there was little evidence of any abuse left. Blame the cops for that. As for the voluntary manslaughter charge, here's the description - "The crime of voluntary manslaughter describes a homicide intentionally committed while in the midst of a provocation. The prosecutor must show a sudden, unexpected event or circumstance serving as a provocation. As a result of the provocation, the defendant must have felt a temporary anger, heat of passion, or emotion that immediately resulted in an intent to kill or an intent to commit the act that resulted in the victim's death." The prosecutors in this case showed no sudden provocation. They showed no heat of emotion that led to the killing. Their case was entirely geared to 1st degree murder and premeditation, along with the Slutty Mommy stuff, so no wonder the jury abandoned the other charge.
2 likesWhat I don't understand is that, had Caylee died of drowning in the family pool as the defense asserted, presumably she would have had chlorine in her lungs....but there was no mention of that, as far as I could tell. The absence of chlorine in the lungs would seem to refute the defense's assertion. Secondly, had Caylee died of drowning in the family swimming pool....why were her nose and mouth taped??? Thirdly, she spoke of trying to find Caylee on her own, but did any of her friends or phone logs back that claim up? It would seem not. Finally, why wasn't Casey (her mother) charged with child endangerment when she didn't contact the authorities for over 30 days regarding her daughter's disappearance (and as we now know, Casey didn't contact the authorities, it was Caylee's grandmother who did). That at least rises to child endangerment and negligence. I agree, that's a minor charge compared to homicide. In the end, I believe Casey was somehow involved in all of this and it shows in how she acts throughout the proceedings, misleading investigators at every turn, her lies and perpetual deceptions. Unfortunately, you can't convict someone on how they behave during a homicide inquiry. Indeed, it seems you can't convict someone in Orange County at all. So who was Casey protecting?!?!? Herself? Her boyfriend??? Who might have kidnapped her child, and why? I can only think that Casey was involved in some kind of shake-down racket and ended up getting shaken down herself.
1 likeoliviatree and aggravated abuse of a child? Which includes neglect. Which was more than proven in this case. I’d love to see your description of manslaughter in the law books because that doesn’t sound right or accurate.
2 likesHolly Harrison 100% agreed. This is a great injustice to Caylee. Justice was not served
0 likes@oliviatree I agree the prosecution fucked up, but in such a case the jury must use common sense and logic and remedy that and not take part in this farce because the system is lacking and failed to do it's job. Is there reasonable doubt she did it? I would take my chances and bet my life she either did it herself or was responsible for the crime. There are few things in life with absolute certainty and here the chances are high enough to take the risk and the responsibility.
1 likeI'm not talking about gut feeling here but pure reasoning. Her demeanor, character history, pathological lying to an absurd degree, motive (her diary), search history, lack of alibi and consistency. And this is scratching the surface based on a brief youtube presentation. If I were the jury, I would have trouble sleeping at night.
@Tristan Deniet This would have landed better if we forgot she lost her child a few hours before that. That attorney had the jurors in the bag. He's a lowlife scumbag and can live with that, but he made supposedly decent people let a child murderer walk free and this sure will haunt any human being with a moral bone.
0 likes@Stephen Dedalus Convicting someone of 1st degree murder is not a farce and something no jury (outside of Texas) should take lightly. This jury did exactly what they should have done - paid attention to the evidence, not the sensational story. Juries are not supposed to correct the mistakes made by cops and prosecutors. I insist that if you don't like the outcome of this case, don't blame the jury, don't even blame Casey. Blame our justice system, something we can actually do something about that. Blame the cops who were too lazy to find the body or interview Casey competently (they had no idea what they were up against with her.) If you don't want Casey's getting away with murder in the future, demand accountability from the cops and prosecutors. That's the ONLY way to change anything.
0 likesHow tf did she not go to jail
0 likesLesson to parents: discipline your no-good kids before they think they can literally get away with murder and talk their way out of it.
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Yes, discipline your kids but I don’t think her very odd parents could have prevented a sociopath like Casey from murder. If anything I would have thought Casey would have abandoned her child with them, knowing full well they’d take care of her while Casey did whatever the hell she wanted. To murder a child... that’s a whole other level of evil!
12 likesTeresa S I think Casey has problems her parents and upbringing have nothing to do with, I feel bad for her parents
2 likes@Three Genders You mentioned lots of things that literally do not fall into the purview of psychology.
3 likes@Grei Skuring they mentioned a lot of things that fall into the purview of facebook conspiracy-nut garbage.
5 likes@Three Genders Alright Alex Jones, simmer down.
5 likesAlso don't molest your child
4 likesThis lady is a legit sociopath and I would venture to say she is a full blown psychopath. She just doesn’t care. Like no emotions at all. But the way a lot of females are getting raised nowadays: they are like psychopaths that can cry. Like they can go full histrionic. They have anxiety whatever: but they show no empathy for anything. I once had this chick admit to crazy weird bad things(not going into detail) but then she was actually crying.but you bet she was using it to her advantage. If you are ever in situations with them: do as the investigator in this case; let their ego blab on to their disadvantage. Narcissists
4 likesI liked the parents, and I know they loved their daughter and granddaughter, but seems Cindy was most guilty for being an enabler. She wanted so badly to believe her daughter, but just never took the reality check.. Very sad.
2 likes@DV ok so 'transitioning kids' isn't a thing 😄😄😄
3 likesBtw kudos for using the word 'conspiracy theorist', great way to shut down thought 😄
If the stories were accurate she could have been arrested for multiple things but altogether they didn’t fit.
0 likesI think Casey was a psychopath since she was born. Kids like that are barely phased by standard discipline. I think her parents are guilty of 2 things,1st not noticing or ignoring the behavior problems as a child and 2 teaching her to be a total bs artist.
0 likesYeah cuz all kids are gonna grow up thinking they can 🤣
0 likes@Sarah Min some people are born screwed up in the head regardless of how they were raised. My sister is a huge liar and manipulateur she's a horrible person and i go out of my way to be absolutely nothing like her. My parents are great people and raised us right my sister just chooses to be a scumbag. But i guess it's normal for women to blame all their faults on someone else. Always trying to play the victim while taking no responsibility for themselves.
2 likes@StarChild that guy did take it a little far with the satanic worship stuff lol. But psychology and the mental health field do have a lot of skeletons in their closet. Forced sterilizations lobotomies using people as lab rats for their experiments. Many people in those fields of study are very callus people who see what they're doing as the greater good no matter the damage they cause to an individual person.
0 likes@Joey's Black Child she wasnt molested thats a gigantic lie she made up to paint herself as a victim to get sympathy.
2 likesSarah Min we can do what you suggested, or we can treat everyone as if the concept of “original sin” implies, then no course is needed.
0 likesAnd apparently you can, if you are of the female gender, that is
0 likes@BlackLightAura they enabled her entitlements by letting her get away with anything even though they prob knew she was lying. they dont seem bad people, but bad parenting. I do feel bad for the parents. Especially when she accused her father of raping and we can clearly see that's another lie.
1 likeAlso kids are like sponges they learn everything from the parents. So when you “discipline “ them for their actions take a look at your own and you will realize they are a mirror image of you and your actions!
0 likesI think it’s a mix of nature and nurture here. We know for a fact that her parents enabled her bad behavior, going so far that they encouraged, threw a party in support of and fabricated lies themselves to save face for them all. What would that teach a teen who is going to be of age and then labeled an adult soon? Ya know? It’s fair to assume that if they would lie and save face for something as big as that, they would have little problem extending this behavior in other aspects of their lives. In fact, many men and women in prison have traumatic childhoods. Not all, but many. However, there must also be a percentage of parents who do indeed parent “correctly” or in a way that society would deem so, who don’t expose their kids to trauma that changes their lives. And in that case it must be nature. I’m rambling. Sorry y’all.
3 likesRIGHT ON
0 likes@BlackLightAura Casey's mother doted on kaylee, and Casey was insanely jealous.
0 likesShe got rid of kaylee to hurt her mom.
Strange family all around.
@RunninQHsRock I think vaccines cause it.
1 like@Sarah Min No; psychopathic children are found in regular families with well-adjusted siblings.
1 likeI have a theory about vaccinations but you'd have to have some knowledge of interventionist genetic engineering aka DNA hacking.
@Sarah Min why did i turn out completely opposite from my sister then? And what about families that have a kid who turns out to be a serial killer and the rest of the family is normal?
0 likes@Joey's Black Child when did i make excuses for people who molest children? I think you replied to the wrong person .
0 likes@Joey Walker Do not, I REPEAT, do no molest children! Please seek help if you feel the need to do so. God bless, and good luck! 🙏
0 likes@Joey Walker there's never a reason to hurt children like that. Hopefully, one day you'll agree. Please get help. Good luck, god bless. 🙏
0 likes@Joey's Black Child i do agrre which is why i want you to stop imagining kids being molested. It's not helthy to think about that all day everyday,,
0 likesso, is she in jail now that the facts are out, or is she still not in jail?
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She’s out there living her life
1 likeCasey not being convicted is one of the biggest miscarriages of justice since OJ Simpson. Those jurors were idiots and didn’t understand their roles. I watched the trial I don’t understand how someone with half a brain cell could have found any reasonable doubt at all. They said they couldn’t convict because they “didn’t know how she died”. Well duh, the remains were skeletonized. Their job wasn’t to decide how she died but whether or not Casey as responsible for her death, which she was. There’s more than enough circumstantial evidence to say 1+1=2. It’s outrageous. Her lawyer Baez was so sleazy that I don’t doubt jurors were allegedly paid off as several allegedly made unusually large purchases after the fact. She could walk down the street and scream she killed her child and no one can do a damn thing about it. She’s a sick sick evil lying trash heap child killer. I hope one day she slips up (and she will) and that justice is finally served. She’s a sociopath and she’s manipulative and cold blooded.
570 likes“Bloise said he thought the jury would have been impacted if they would have been able to smell a carpet sample from Anthony's car that was sealed in a can. Numerous witnesses testified the car smelled like human decomposition. Judge Belvin Perry said the jury would not be able to smell the can if they asked.”
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@Dominic Did you not watch the analysis?
24 likes@Dominic Jose Biaz was the one who told the jury that Casey Anthony was sexually abused by her father in his opening statement and never proved it so Biaz was relying on feeling to help set free the person who was supposed to be responsible for the care and welfare of Caylee. I think Biaz thought Casey Anthony's parents created a monster who never took responsibility for her child financially because the grandparents were content to have their granddaughter live with them. I personally wish that the prosecutors didn't rely on Cindy and George Anthony to help prove their case because they lied to the police in their interviews saying that they believed Casey Anthony had a job and a nanny. There's proof that they both knew their daughter was lying about that. Cindy Anthony had been advised before her granddaughter was taken from her home to seek custody of her granddaughter and tell Casey Anthony to move out. But Cindy Anthony was in denial about the situation. And Cindy and George worked for a living and expected Casey to take care of her daughter. They were also in a lot of debt and maybe not able to pay a babysitter. The prosecution failed to prove their case because (among other things) they didn't check the internet browser that Casey Anthony used to look up "foolproof suffocation" the day her daughter supposedly left the family home for the last time. Their tech team only checked the one of the browsers on the Anthony family's desk top computer. Biaz wrote about that prosecution mistake in his book. Biaz was smart enough to talk to the jury in a friendly way while Jeff Ashton came off as the arrogant jerk and Linda Drane Burdick lost points probably due to her monotone voice that wasn't what the jurors expected to hear after years of watching Law and Order and CSI. Frank George did a good job except when he kept asking witnesses who were Casey Anthony's friends, "did Casey ever tell you her child was missing, that her child was kidnapped, that she was looking for her child?" and those type of questions over and over. The fact that Caylee's remains were
19 likesjust her skeleton and hair left the jurors with the possibility that Caylee died while her mother was asleep or on the computer or whatever. I don't blame the jurors.
2 likesDominic Bullshit. Their JOB was to determine if Casey was responsible for her child’s death and clearly she was.
16 likesI really agree with you, but lady justice is blind, and a jury HAS GOT to SURE BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT. DOUBT.. wHIACH NMEANS :1_1DOES not equal two. iT IS WHERE'S THE PROOF , not hearsay, not ASSUMPTIONS. ETC. not conjecture, not well, that goes without saying, I think she did, she PROBABLY DID< I mean , but PROOF. what PROOF. and the BURDEN of PROOF is on the District ATTORNEY.
3 likes@Dominic Casey burner account Dominic Fernandez-Gonzalez 😄😄
2 likesKaren Kelleher Circumstantial Evidence is the same as direct evidence in quantity. When all signs point to it being a duck, it’s a duck. That IS proof barring a video of the event. Do most killers kill on camera? No. They try to evade detection. It’s up to logical people to put the pieces together. If I tell you it’s dark out at 10 pm, do you need proof? Or would most logical people know that at night it’s dark and agree with that conclusion? No one else logged in to her computer and made those incriminating searches as Casey. Her mother was at work. Her dad was not the one lying and driving around in a car with decomp fluid in it or pretending like everything was fine, as her ex boyfriend Tony said she was. No mention of Caylee other than to say Caylee was with her grandparents when she wasn’t. All items found at the death site were linked to the Anthony home. Everything down to the tape covering Caylees mouth and nose sockets. Traced to a company in Ohio—where they were from. We could say a giant bald eagle flew out of the sky and grabbed Caylee. Does that seem possible? Casey’s cell pings were traced right to the location the body was found in on the day she “disappeared”. I watched the trial. I spent months reading all testimony and available discovery. I know that there was plenty of “proof” to find her guilty BEYOND any reasonable doubt. There was no doubt at all. She had the opportunity, she had the motive, she was the liar, she was the last seen with the victim, she made the searches for “foolproof suffocation”. There’s absolutely ZERO “hearsay”. The only thing missing was video of the crime, as Casey’s DNA was all over the crime scene. Being her mother, that didn’t prove much. Watch the trial, it’s on YouTube. Read the discovery, and then get back to me.
12 likes@J B I'm sure she killed that child, still I would've called for not guilty.
1 likeeven tho she got off and that terrible that's the jury's fault. She needs a fair trial and can use any bullshit she wants and deserves to. Just unbelievable they found 12 suckers all at once.
2 likes@Mr.Roboto This is why the child didn't get justice. If I felt in my heart she was guilty, guess what? I would've said so. Guess that makes me more vindictive, rather than by the book like your professional self. And ya'know? I'm more than ok with that.
0 likes@J B if circumstantial evidence was to become direct evidence when in numbers, it would only be called evidence or piece of it. I believe you know that it sucks that this is true, but it is - the adjective circumstantial really means it is not solid evidence. And no, even if it looks smells quacks and flaps like a duck, it does not means it is a duck - hence why we have black swans (the statistical concept) and deduction logic instead of rethorical syllogisms running the world. This case is massively complicated, but unless you wann hurt a substantial amount of good people, you have to accept that proof has to be PROOF. But yeah, i get you, ow lord what a terrible world we live in.
0 likes@Daniel Powell no, you wouldn't. And if you would, it would be a terrible hunting judgment overall - you can't convict others on gut checks, no matter how hard it may be to swallow this truth. A lot more good people can get hurt if you decide things because you felt like it, and not because it was irrefutable otherwise. It hurts me to write this, but gut checks are not justice either way - judging otherwise you would be creating more injustice then not judging it at all.
1 likeActually ive read numerous books on this the prosecution did a shocking job and didnt prove anything. Jury made only decision they could under the law. Dont blame them
1 likeWoah woah woah the glove didn't fit.
2 likesI think there's an interest as the USA has a lot of those women hating groups online. Like those men who make video channels of women doing things wring to say why they hate women, even if men usually do more of those things. Or those men who make youtube channels about why they don't want women, but instead of leaving women alone, they spend their time trying to make women feel bad and promoting abuse.
2 likesI noticed how USA men and women seem to dislike each other more than places such as Europe, where love and romance is part of the culture. I didn't know if it's connected to how USA women tell men they think they're disgusting if not cir/cised and some men who have that done develop issues they take out on women?
@J B eh from a legal perspective no not really a psycho murderer could do the same shit i would have done it. If i was a person in the jury i cant say she had anything to do with the murder if u don't even know how the poor kid died.
0 likesthey did their best to defend and protect casey. so i agree with you.
0 likes@Ife Newsome because you form opinions based on emotion not facts. If the prosectuion cant prove a case no matter how obvious it may seem then you cant be found guilty.
0 likesYour brain cant reason past shes not acting normal and her decisions dont make sense so its proven eyond a reasonable doubt she killed her daughter
@Daniel Powell People "FEEL" a lot of stuff in their hearts, the child didn't get justice in this isolated case but you start abusing circumstantial evidence in the court of law, your'e opening a pandora's box, a lot of innocent people will end up in prison and get death penalty b/c of what people "FEEL."
2 likes@roberts1711 right so what are you her cousin? you remind me of her. smell of death in trunk. story of kid missing and all witnesses brought in dont know what she is talking about... People who dont exist where used as reasoning to why the kid was missing. Also 31 days no report of kidnapping? You know people get shot by the police for less right so i mean hey.i guess there were no witnesses and the nanny was real. She wasnt partying while her kid was missing and still didnt call the police. If we agree or disagree with each other the truth is your worth nothing for my survival and well being and vice versa. we can waste time talking philosophy or just not talk. It truly doesnt matter and that is the true fact.
1 like@roberts1711 listen man you believe she did it. I believe she did it. I am not trying to prove to you how she did it. You and i both agree we think she did it. You wanted me to argue with you about how she did it, I do not follow your commands nor do i feel a need too. I was here to give an opinion and im guessing im the human who is giving you human interaction ok. To me you just remind me of her you do alot of manipulating. So again i dont know or understand why you feel you have to get me to argue against you to prove how she did it to prove what we both think and believe. To me its just a bunch of liars lying and you telling me im dumb for not understanding the lies or inept responses of the avengers to get justice. so for me they protected her. all the time cops put crack under someones seat or something like cmon. Its like they didnt even try.
1 like@Ife Newsome lol. Firstly you started arguing with me. Im not trying to get you to argue esp over how she did it. You called me her cousin because i was familiar with the case and rightfully defended the jury who couldnt find her guilty because the prosecution was shocking. Id invite you to read about it. It really is criminal how bad they presented their case. They basically didnt put any effort into actually proving anything because they were just like her actions are so obviously suspicious and dodgy that the case is a given.
0 likesWhen i started actually looking into the case and reading books i was like how the hell could a jury not find her guilty. By the end i had to agree with the jury decision.
The prosecution provided little to no actual proof of anything. The scenario they presented for why casey would kill her child made no sense. (Again i think she did but in a court you have to provide a realistic motive and scenarip and evidence, prosecution didnt)
@roberts1711 lies bruddah big lies them yesss
1 likeThat jury is an embarrassment to our legal system and our country in general. I hope one of those morons is reading this right now and fully comprehends the miscarriage of justice they contributed to.
1 likeLaura Cracchiolo I hope so too. It’s appalling.
2 likesDead Pizza We know how she died. She was suffocated. The jury doesn’t need to know HOW she died just that Casey was responsible and she very obviously was. If every juror had to prove how a victim died all killers would need to do is be good at finding a hiding spot. I’m going to guess you didn’t watch the trial or read the discovery. Do that first.
1 likeroberts1711 Not books. Watch the TRIAL read the discovery. THAT is how to inform yourself. Books can put whatever slant they want on it. Absolutely rubbish. The prosecution did all they could.
1 likeNoodleDog Ridiculous answer. Are you 15? Like I said. Spend time studying this case the way I did and get back to me. Yes if it looks like a duck quacks like a duck it IS in fact a fucking duck. Circumstantial evidence is just as strong. This case had all the evidence you need minus video of the crime. Read up on it and then check back in.
1 like@J B "she very obviously was" where is the physical proof she was. So that the jury could find beyond a reasonable doubt she killed casey and not her father for example. Tell us.
1 like@Dominic ahhh yeah dude and the part about Casey being abused by her father and forced to lie since she was a child is not emotional?
1 likeGet outta here dude..
Justice will never be served thanks to good ole double jeopardy
1 likePortabella Mushroom It makes me sick to my stomach. If I was Casey Anthony, I’d be on death row. People with far far less evidence have been put to death before. I’m glad we try our best to prove guilt now so innocent people aren’t put to death with the frequency they used to, but if people require more “proof” in the Anthony case, I’d like to know what that is barring a video. The prosecution proved their case. They just didn’t get through to the village idiots, many who had arrest records themselves and should never have been on a jury panel because of it!
2 likesThe Green Dragon JB you are so right! She has the privilege of being a female and being white (my opinion). Had this been a father, he’s guilty until proven innocent. Last I read on Casey she was living in Florida with an attorney and doing work for him. Whether it’s true or not who knows. She’s as guilty as the day is long in my book and I hope she has nightmares of Caylee for as long as she lives.
1 likeActually if you watch the trail it wasn't. The jury did their job the state prosecutors did not. They had 0 reason how Caylee died just theory. Justice was accurate you can't convict someone if there is reasonable doubt had they gone after a different charge she would be sitting in jail today. Watch the trail.
2 likesThis is the biggest miscarriage of justice since O J Simpson but NOT in the history of our nation. If you don't believe me read about Emmett Till and the Scottsdale, AL trial in 1929. Let's not forget Poplarville, MS in 1959 and multiple other trials/cases of this nature.
0 likesMonotech2.0 it’s unfortunate the truth may never be exposed
0 likesMonotech2.0 If you don’t know with the information provided you simply are not a critical thinker. I can’t help you there.
1 likeShe could sue U 4 defamation 4 all the krap U wrote, & win without having 2 prove she didn't do it, because 'defamation per se' puts the burden of proof she murdered somebody on YOU. U R committing a CRIME by asserting 'she did xyz' LOL!! She won the case so U have no chance.
0 likes@Karen Kelleher I don't think you understand what reasonable doubt means...
1 likeDevidein I’m sorry that the truth hurts. You just can’t think critically period, it’s a waste of time to bother discussing anything with you. Imma block you now.
0 likesOj wasnt guilty his wife was a coke head n the dealers did it n oj left cuz he wanted nothin to with that or her anymore ojs only fault if u could call it that is that he knew the dealers were gonna deal with her
0 likesBinkx The Queen 😂😂 keep dreaming.
1 like@J B I didn't say I believed Casey Anthony was not responsible for her daughter's death. I personally believe she murdered Caylee in cold blood because she either couldn't find a babysitter (her multiple calls to her mother that afternoon while her mother was in a work meeting) so she could go out with Tony (so she put duct tape on her child's face and left her in her car where it was hot and Caylee died of heat exposure) OR she didn't want her parents to get custody of Caylee because then her parents were going to turn their backs on her (Casey). Casey would then have to find someone else to sponge off of and she did find someone...her new boyfriend and his roommates. Plus stealing and using her mother's credit card(s) and stealing money from Amy Z. I also personally believe when she looked up 'household weapons' and the like, months before anyone last saw Caylee, that she in her delusional mind was planning on killing her parents so she could move her friend Amy in and in her mind get insurance money from her parent's deaths to live off of. Casey Anthony according to the police interviews of her friends (old and new) had delusions of grandeur and was a pathological liar. She lied long enough so her daughter's body rotted in a trash heap in a swamp in the Florida summer heat. I don't think that was an accident. I think she purposely put her daughter in that swampy area to cover up that Caylee died of heat exposure in her carseat or in the trunk. If I had been her juror I would have convicted her of all the charges against her. Only the jurors can answer for themselves why they acquitted her. Yes, I was very upset that she was acquitted but I blame her for that acquittal because she did many evil things to escape conviction. Her parents especially Cindy Anthony helped her escape conviction. They all make me sick!
0 likesColleen Gardler The medical examiners says the tape was covering both the mouth and nose. The tape was two thick strips. It had attached itself to the hair and thus kept the jaw attached to the skull. Normally when a skull loses its tissue it falls apart from the jaw, as ligaments and muscles hold the jaw hinges to the skull. This led the medical examiner to rule it a homicide and not an accident because the only reason to cover both the nose and mouth would be to suppress the child from breathing. This is why I am certain this was no accident. Later when the defense came up with the pool scenario we know that’s bogus because Casey never mentioned the pool at all, and there’s no reason she couldn’t have said “my daughter fell in the pool” and call EMS.
0 likes@Ife Newsome the poster you are replying to believes she did it which means the prosecution did prove it’s case IMO.
0 likesOk so here its the thing that I dont understand. Ok where did you drop the kid, OK went there and there was not anybody by that name. Ok yeah why lie abt that. If thats a lie then what really happen where do you remenber dropping her. I mean in my mind, This is a case where its so simple to snipe for the truth, way to simple to know that this was murder and by somebody that will lie abt everything their whole life. I mean yeah she lied because she was molested as a child. So what I was molested too {we learn to survive and become stronger} or you can let it eat you. The truth abt her was never told, and all her lies pointed towards her. I mean its awful to what happened to her as a kid but hey you were so strong enough to do that but not strong enough to say where you droped your kid.
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She never dropped her kid off anywhere it was a lie. The baby sitter doesn’t exist.
1 like@Jojo i mean yeah the baby sitter doesnt exist, and not a single way she proved them wrong. She lied countless times for her sake.HELL, She must be partying at this very moment 🤣
0 likesevery single person in that court room failed that little girl.
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@Abdullah Jaffri It's called having a brain that actually works properly 💖💖💖💖 but go off.
256 likes@Abdullah Jaffri Ew.
92 likes@Abdullah Jaffri Ew.
47 likesAbdullah Jaffri One of your replies is gone. Just wanted to know if you deleted it or not.
20 likesAbdullah Jaffri Sorry I didn’t mean to offend you.
2 likesAbdullah Jaffri oh.
1 likeAbdullah Jaffri you seem so pressed 😂🤡
16 likesi guess if u're in florida u can get away with murder bcs the jury will trust anything stupid
6 likes@Abdullah Jaffri based Muslim bro. If there's one thing your religion is right about it's women!
0 likesOrlando is the Pitt of hell
0 likes@Abdullah Jaffri imagine if Casey told the police your full name and said you kidnapped her daughter...
3 likeswhy would Casey lie to the police?
@Abdullah Jaffri I am sad. I mean, they had search history. How could that fail as evidence?! had they looked at her google maps they would have found the lake too!
0 likesSo yall attacking her for telling the truth. They did fail her. We all could see that woman did that shit. No we may not have been able to do better but who knows maybe all we need was a good closing argument to win. Either way the people who went to school for that shit PROFESSIONALLY did a shit job. So yea any of us probably could have done better. Shit put us in a jury. They failed her too. Definitely could have done a better job as a juror.
5 likesAbdullah Jaffri yes ??????
0 likesra she googled suffocation.
1 likera yeah thank god we have this justice system that let the murderer of a 3 year old walk free🤩🤩 thank god for that
2 likesra did you watch any part of the video? 😁 all of my reasons are in there.
2 likesra then explain the lying about where she worked and making up people ???????
0 likesra you’re still saying “could be” and “if” and disregarding the evidence displayed lmao. i’m not gonna play jury rn. you asked me why i think she did it and the answer is in the video. i’m not discussing possibilities any further lol
0 likes@Abdullah Jaffri so you think she's really not guilty? THAT'S delusional
2 likes@Bob Snob oh now youre attacking his faith? Lol
0 likes@Muva GoddessOfTheLight so your thing is a jury job is to convict people no matter what , they did their job if they believe she is not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
0 likestheir job is not to convict people out right and in your mind they are , can see it when we read your comment
"Definitely could have done a better job as a juror."
they did their job ! period whats better convict ? convict an innocent ? just on feelings or your feelings ?
do i believe she is innocent no,
but i was not the jury and we all believe think different
its the same with the idiots that is rioting for the rapist that got shoot (the one Harris praised and meet) when he grabbed the knife in the car even the police said stop bla bla
and so on
@ra imma tell you that I have a child around caylees age. And if I went to pick her up and she wasn't where she was supposed to be i would immediately call police and lose my fucking mind. Not wait a month and only report because my mom made me then make up fake people and lie about everything. That 100% proves she already knew what happen to her daughter. And she didn't call police because she was involved and didn't want to get in trouble. Period. There was duct tape found around the mouth of the decomposed skull of an innocent 3 year old who trusted her mother to take care of her. Instead her mother duct taped her mouth, killed her and dumped her like trash. If you can defend those kind of actions you are no better than the person committing said actions.
2 likes@ra the fact that she lied to cover her involvement proves that she was in a clear enough mindset to understand the difference between right and wrong and understand that what she did was wrong. She's not insane, she's cold and calculated. She could be declared insane if it was proven that she didn't understand her actions were wrong, but that was throne out when she decided to hide them, you dont hide actions you think are right and acceptable. So thats a bullshit argument
1 like@Abdullah Jaffri What? You need help man.
1 like@Izzash Zed I never attacked his faith. His religion is right about women.
0 likes@Alovia Ika I never said that all Muslims are the same. Just that the religion has the right ideas on women
0 likesMary Adam who cares it was years ago
0 likesAbdullah Jaffri is this Casey Anthony using a burner account?🤣
0 likes@S Y D N E Y its called having proof. Yes I and pretty much everyone think that Casey killed her daughter, which she likely did, but there is no evidence to back it up.
0 likesI agree on that one. You are absolutely right.
0 likesra what about her car smelling like a body ??? still disregarding the proof being provided to you ??? lmao
0 likes@killer queen It was only stated by 2 people that her car smelled like a decaying human. The investigators clearly didn't come across any smell or a body from her car, thus the proof is insufficient.
0 likes@ra i mean in america the justice system is def not good
0 likes@Abdullah Jaffri how do u pronounce ur name
0 likes@Bob Snob what does his religion say abt women?
0 likes@。 look up Muhammad's last sermon. It's all based.
0 likesI hope she gets her karma evil discusting person the child was ducktaped for gods sake.....
0 likes@killer queen yeah but the thing is that just like the lawyers, you wouldn't be able to prove otherwise. I personally don't know whether the video here is biased or not but yeah, it seems pretty clear she did it. But proving it in a court of law irrefutably turned out to be hard. I don't know why.
0 likesI was in London and followed this. Even I could see that.
0 likesOur Lord won’t disappoint Cayley. She’s in better hands now. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
0 likes//every single person in that court room failed that little girl.//
0 likesHow the hell did the court stenographer fail her?
Literally everyone in this video INCLUDING THE NARRATOR cares more about what happened to that child than her own mother did.
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Because the mother was the perpetrator. She knows what happened.... nothing to figure out on her end.
7 likesDAVE ADAM yeah, Casey Anthony, OJ Simpson, and Lizzie Borden. Not guilty under the law.
0 likesDAVE ADAM why are you explaining to to me? I agree with you. She is, I admit, technically not guilty. But my post was about her affect, which is what the narrator was analyzing and what my comment was about. I think maybe you need a hobby “Dave”. I can teach you to knit.
0 likes@DAVE ADAM: And you know she didn't kill her how? Cause the jury said so.
0 likesLegally she was found guilty, but the legality of it doesn't make it fact.
Holyyyy her attitude over the phone with her friends and family is INSANE... she is so incredibly defensive and aggressive.. Instead of being upset and concerned WHERE her child is she refuses to cooperate and shuts them down. She’s crying because she’s disappointed herself and others once again not because Caylee is gone.
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I thought exactly the same. The worst thing is, I know someone who talks just like her and that really concerns me right now
14 likesAnd instead of not giving the little girl what she wants, they infinitely submit. Makes me wonder if something had gone different if she wasn't around a bunch of yes men
9 likesBecause she knew exactly where her child was and what happened to her
2 likes@Lukas I can't believe I read this whole thing.
3 likesxenon244 same. I am RELATED to someone who sounds just like her. Like direct blood and it makes me feel ill.
3 likesLukas .... why did I read this entire moment right here?
0 likesAidan Dupuy good thing shes your ex then
1 likeLukas Finally, someone who agrees with me!
0 likesShe talks exactly how my oldest sister does. She’s a drug addict who steals from us, is incredibly violent, and will lie to get whatever she wants so I’m not surprised at all.
1 likeYou're wrong, she cried out of pity for herself. She thinks low of other individuals as you can see in her behavior to parents etc etc. She's pityful cause in her mind she did the right thing (always) and now has to deal with all this minions and incompetent people around her digracing her.
2 likesShe reminds me of me. I wonder what I have to hide.
0 likesThe fact the bff started crying and she starts getting pissed at her
0 likesWhy they don't investigate the smelling car??
0 likesFather calls her gorgeous that's weird.
0 likesJUST THE FACT THAT SHE WAS “missing” FOR A MONTH.... what kind of mother would allow their baby to be missing for a SECOND. And the odor in her car.... Sickening.
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The United States Court system let her walk as a free citizen - what does that tell you about the people who run our country? The USA is run by people like Casey.
47 likesLucky for her, she’s white. That poor girl, Caylee didn’t deserve to be murdered by her own mother.
24 likesMissing for a month and mom is out partying and saying “it’s the happiest she’s ever been”. Absolutely sick. Even if she died from a drowning (which I don’t believe for a second). That’s an accident, you don’t slap duct tape over your kids mouth, throw them in a duffle bag and toss them in a swamp. This case makes me absolutely sick and incredibly mad that she got off. I honestly hope karma catches up with her very soon and she pays.
40 likes@Daniel Therman Obama was in office when this happened LMAO
6 likesI will never understand this evil.
4 likes@SP-404 HypNodiQ SoundJunkie its not because shes white
4 likesI said the same thing.....a MONTH!😠And her calm demeanor.... is disgusting
2 likesSomebody that is forced to be a parent. She would have been what 19 when she was pregnant. Maybe we shouldn't be culturally forcing women to be mothers.
5 likesim not a mother but my little brother has always been in my care (im 16, parents work) and he went outside to play and i didnt know while i was cleaning dishes and i freaked out and started crying and yelling for him he just walked up to me and was like wtf are you crying about, i could not imagine losing a child and being so straight faced.
7 likesAviendha there’s adoption. There’s abortion. And in her case I’m sure Caylee’s grandparents would’ve gladly taken custody. That doesn’t justify killing an innocent child.
12 likes@horsegirl07 her diary entry made me sick to my stomach!! The justice system truly did fail that little girl :( also I'm with u, karma should bite her in the ass real hard
7 likesYea wth was with the odor in her car? They never tested it or found it her body was in there
5 likesone time, as i was getting ready for work, my son, always loud, singing and dancing and laughing, decided to hide from me and not make a PEEP. i can't begin to describe to you the sheer panic and terror that consumed me in the 2 minutes i couldn't find him. i was 30 seconds from calling the police when i found him hiding behind a door i thought i had closed and he couldn't open. going 31 days without finding him? i can't imagine my mental state. i'd probably be locked in a padded room, completely insane. this bitch casey anthony is COLD AS ICE.
3 likesBuck Fuddy I believe she looked up “suffocation” and “foolproof suffocation”
4 likesAnd the fact that she seems indifferent, I just--
1 like@Aviendha damn, but the baby didn't deserve to die.
0 likesWhen my kids at a playground and I don’t see him in direct line of sight I get nervous. The thought of my children being missing at all fills my heart with pain and dread. She is a sociopath murderer and I can’t believe the jury didn’t lay the hammer of justice on her.
3 likesAviendha society never forced her to be a parent. She had many options of having a child wasn’t what she wanted. Society forces me to pay taxes, is it cool if I off someone from the IRS out of frustration?
2 likes@Maddy GrimesCasey clearly is unfit to be a parent. But I dont know if I would want her in Grandpa Chimo's hands.🤫 Probably mess her up, too.
1 likeAviendha this isn’t the 1950s, women have options today if they become pregnant and do not feel fit to keep the child.
1 like@Jessie Beam what does that have to do with the fact that she's white? Obama didn't make her white.
1 likeand the damning search history! why not just send the child to an adoption agency, bizarre
0 likesLeadFaun quit lying to yourself. It does matter.
0 likes@cup whether on we agree on on her guilt, we have to admit she had a SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH disease. As in, whether or not she killed her daughter, her action after the child had died and before the body was disposed, is a symptom of a mental health disease she had developed since the time of her abuse. I didn't even see news of whether her father was questioned about molesting her as a kid.
0 likesI don't think her parents helped in the killing but they absolutely helped in discarding Caylee's body. I wish the parents would have been charged in Caylee's murder because only then would the truth come out to what happened. Where was Caylee's dad when all of this happened? He must know something or did this this narcissistic POS manipulate him to keep quiet? There were a lot of stupid people on that jury.
1 like@SP-404 HypNodiQ SoundJunkie shes guilty as hell.
0 likes@Chris Huber Its a big possibility inho.
0 likes@Aviendha maybe women shouldnt murder their children. Maybe she didnt do it but her behaviour was appalling.
0 likes@Buck Fuddy Thar was found to be false
0 likes@Aviendha yikes who's we?.. I doubt anyone forced her to have sex and get pregnant but I could be wrong
0 likesJessie Beam the president doesn’t exactly control the justice system. any change that would make it more just, would be such a large change i doubt it’ll ever happen. many things would have to change, be reasonable now.
0 likesLeadFaun her race does matter bc she would have NEVER gotten away with this had she been a POC. that’s the entire point of mentioning her race
1 likewhat's the most fantastic thing is, is how Casey Anthony had an answer for everything without missing a beat. Question after question thrown at her by detectives and she didn't hesitate one bit. For a liar, that's very scary. Did she rehearse a scenario in her head for over a month knowing what was going to happen? She must've. She was very prepared to lie.
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Her lies were so easily exposed though. Like when they asked her how she met the supposed nanny. Why make up the story of her colleague introducing her to the nanny and him having a son who the nanny babysits together with her daughter? He doesn't even have children and the police was obviously going to talk to him to see what he knows about the supposed babysitter, at which point they immediately find out that the whole story is BS. If she was actually a smart liar she would have made up a lie that she found the babysitter through Craigslist or some other website that she doesn't really recall anymore. I think people give her far too much credit for her ability to lie. Anyone can make up crappy lies on the spot. The difficult part is making up lies that are actually impossible to refute or expose.
51 likes@tibor29 I totally get what you're saying. I have come up with two possible reasonings for this: Casey probably thought that the police would take her at face value about the colleague, son story and they wouldn't check into it, OR make an outlandish story so it makes her look like she could possibly be crazy. I suspect she had ALL her boxes checked off in her head and also thought she could sway the cops with sex appeal. She probably thought she was in the clear.
14 likesWord salad. Like when she was confronted in that quite dramatic moment and just maintained the same demeanour but said stuff about passage ways and choosing doors. Some people can just say fluff which doesn't make sense but just bamboozles you. The sentences don't make it possible to react with anything tangible. Pathological liars and manipulators just spin lines that leave you confused as fuck and you end up giving in to their perception of reality to some extent. In this case, the jury fell for the gaslighting in the defense's closing statement and he managed to swing them using the same kind of psychopathic rhetoric. This poor girl, it just seems like she's an afterthought in all of this and it just sucks so bad.
6 likesA pathological liar, cold-blooded no feeling for her daughter only goal is to get away w/murder 👹only problem is God see everything u cnt hide from the Lord 🙏❣️✝️✝️✝️
4 likes@tibor29 her lies r absurd... Rme it's disqusting....
0 likesShe’s a practiced liar, but not a good one. She’s never had to lie well enough to fool an objective observer before. I can definitely hear slight pauses before she lies as well. She’s quick, but she mistakes that as her being more clever than everyone else.
10 likesAnd her lies were detailed. To come up with them on the spot like that and they were still so believable. Too bad for her they could easily be verified.
1 likewhen someone constantly do the same thing like for example lying it becomes natural to them. looking at her past she’s one heck of a good liar
1 likeIts even crazier that she can keep up with all the lies.
0 likesI am going to be straight to the point with this. As someome who can be as her a lot of times, a very believable liar. You think a lot but not as much as someone would think. You imagine different situations in different contexts, but maybe a day or 2 prior to something you will know will happen. As the one who lies knows, everything has to be in order with every word you say, but it comes in a natural way, in most cases you create this fake world in the moment, not days or weeks in advance. It is very difficult to understand this last part, but i will say it anyways. The lies are so believable that you yourself believes in it. Your world changes and that lie that you said, that you know it is a lie, becomes in your mind something that really happens, i think that is a great factor about why some liars are so natural when talking, because they think it as a truth. As for the judgement toward people like us, i can only talk for myself saying this. I do not like to lie, i understand it is wrong and many times i do not want to do it and try to stop myself, i am in therapy for that. But it is so fucking hard because you do not notice when the lie will come out your mouth, its so annoying, frustrating and unjust that you can not control yourself from talking bullshit. Well, that is all, hopefully this will help a bit.
7 likesShe rehearsed it with her boyfriend and it’s so glaringly obviously
0 likesShe had an entire month to come up with this stuff guys....
0 likes@Maya Actually, putting in that much details is a tell that someone is lying and trying to sell that lie. It's also why exposition tends to break willing suspension of disbelief for mediocre writers, the details are just too rich to be real. Real people tend to forget details under pressure and have to backtrack or think hard before they can give the full details.
2 likesThat’s not fantastic, that’s sociopathy.
0 likesGet Offended Heh
0 likesLiers spend most of their lives thinking about alternative scenarios all the times
0 likesI once dated a woman just like this sub human creature. She would lie about everything.. and it never even phased her. It was just automatic to her. After decades of honing her craft, she became a master of deceit. And whenever she got caught & exposed for her lies... she would always pass herself off as a victim...for pity, and to deflect.
0 likesI swear seeing this, and listening to Casey speak, it is exactly the same in manner and method. Gives me chills.
There are truly evil sub-human monsters amongst us, who can appear to be harmless.
Beware & Be Aware.
@Maya I consider myself a witty person.i can think of stuff on the spot..I have good recall of things like movie scenes ..words in a song...I am good with play on words in conversations..but I dont know if that's a natural thing or a honing of skills. What I dont get is how someone can also have this natural ability or honing of skills but to be a liar. Its def. Fascinating to watch. It's basically an improv liar. This girl has names
0 likes.dates..locations..and just spits them out on command..if that's improv..its impressive to watch. If she had planned this story for a month..even so..still sitting in front of seasoned detectives without missing a beat was still impressive. I would've cracked in 5 mins.
@Gato 008 What if the person is agnostic or atheist?
0 likes@Gato 008 With the greatest respect to your beliefs, If there is a god then surely he wouldn't let that evil woman and her lawyer disgrace the life of that poor little girl in the first place, and get away with it. The lawyer uses all the tricks in the book to twist their reality into thinking her guilt was in doubt. That whiteboard with that weird word sequence on it. It was almost like NLP kinda. Disgusting murder, a girl's entire life of hopes and dreams. All her future children and their dreams. The existential loss of life is heartbreaking. All because she wanted to party.
0 likesAbsolutely vile miscarriages of justice like this wouldn't happen under a loving god.
@Get Offended Would you say that she has a high or above average IQ?
0 likes@Get Offended Thanks for responding...Her lies definitely were not good at all - she HAD to have known they would check her facts and verify them, right? Or maybe she assumed - since she didn't give a crap about her kid - that they wouldn't care either and just take her word for everything? In my personal opinion, I do think she is very smart...just the ability to come up with such fluent lies like that and to manipulate people with her calm and cool attitude, reading peoples' reactions on the fly and adjusting from there. Plus I am sure she has been manipulating people her whole life. Too bad she has no conscience, IMO she could have gone on to do something important with her life - maybe used her ability to spin to become an attorney or a public relations agent.
0 likeslol she got away with it
0 likesI'm disgusted that this narcissistic sociopath walked free. God rest Caylee's soul. As for Casey, well....good luck....
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Walked free?! I think you've got your wires crossed! She didn't bloody "walk free", she merely had her life spared and given that the death penalty is wrong for ANYONE, justice was done!
1 likeYou're also forgetting that she was found NOT GUILTY which means that despite all the lies, deception and bad behaviour, she DIDN'T COMMIT THE CRIME!
I just hope they catch the real killer some day! 😔
@Dommi Davros 'Real Killer'? Did you not hear what the defence attorney was arguing? I think you didn't pay attention to the case which makes it clear that you have no clue.
187 likes@Dommi Davros ok casey nice try
244 likes@Jamie Lynn lmaooo
50 likes@Dommi Davros: Just because a court ruling says so doesn't mean it's the truth. All the American court gave for closure for this case was that they aren't sure and won't deliver any justice.
57 likes@Dommi Davros You need help lol
24 likes@Dommi Davros You're incredibly naïve if you think she's innocent just because the court said so.
46 likes@Dommi Davros You smoking the same shit she was to come up with such blatant lies. "Walked free" implies she got off without consequence, sure - she had no legal repercussions for the depraved crime that she DID commit, despite the judge and jury deciding otherwise. It's situations like this that get my blood boiling since there are other such obvious cases in which the criminal was either lightly charged or not charged at all.
19 likes@Dommi Davros 💀
9 likes@Dommi Davros she very obviously committed the crime. Just because she got off because the prosecutors didn't do a good job, doesn't mean she didn't do it
13 likes@Dommi Davros when someone is convicted of a crime they DIDN'T commit, which also happens, does that mean they did it?
13 likes@Vaagai - Well a jury of her own peers said differently! Case closed! Meanwhile the real killer is still at large and you're sitting there like a fool still glancing in her direction like YOU know better than the professionals!
0 likesIf you're so sure, prove it! 🙄😒
@coolkidsneversleep - Errr and you seem like someone who'd convict an innocent person!
3 likes@Kira Py'romantic - The clue's in the question! 🙄
0 likes@Kytten - Well if she wasn't, they WOULDN'T have said so would they?! It's their job to get it right so why bother getting it wrong? 🙄
0 likes@Vaagai Unless I missed something the defense did enough to prove her innocence otherwise she'd have been FOUND GUILTY! Come on, get a grip!! 🙄
0 likes@Al - Yeah "I need help" working out what your purpose is! 🙄
0 likes@Truth Love Justice - Oh so you "Saw it in her eyes"? Well she's OBVIOUSLY guilty then and I'm sure that'd definitely stand up in court! 🙄😆😆
1 like@iPathos YT - I like how you get so angry about this and think you know better than the experts because you're "so sure" she did it!
0 likesYou've watched one biased documentary and know next to NOTHING about any of it! She was cleared which means she was innocent otherwise they'd have found her.....er.....guilty! It's not rocket science! Obviously they never get it wrong as there's nothing to gain from being wrong!
Get a grip already! If you want to get passionate about an injustice, take a look at animal agriculture! That's TRUE injustice! 😒🙄
@Dommi Davros being found "not guilty" does NOT mean someone didn't commit a crime. It simply means someone is not CONVICTED of a crime. She may be "not guilty", but she is undeniably NOT "innocent".
12 likes@Dommi Davros Yes, it is a lot of signals we can percieve, see in someones eyes, hear in there vocie, read from bodylanguage, sence energies & also by text, like your text here, I can read personal trades about you.
6 likes@Truth Love Justice - Sure you can read body language but you need actual evidence to convict someone! This woman obviously didn't have enough against her.
1 like@Dommi Davros My comment from the start, was that I could see it in her eyes, that she killed her child & the whole video comfirmed what I saw the first sekund. You seam to think that, just because the jury was fooled & found her not guilty, that the TRUTH is, that she did not do it...maybe you are very young...maybe you are not that smart...maybe you are afraid to except that this world of "proffesionals", is not as safe & trustworthy as you want to believe. This video, was obviosly made, to show how wrong things are & everyone in this comment section has tried to make you to wake up. That women, killed her child & she got away with it...deal with it.
5 likes@Dommi Davros the law has been wrong before. I hope your just a naive kid or something. She did it end of story
10 likes@Dommi Davros you must be trolling
10 likes@Mikeyyyyyy Yeah I must be if you don't agree with what I'm saying!
0 likes@Ghosty - I think you're the naive one! It's not about what you know, it's what you can prove in court, genius! 🙄
1 like@Dommi Davros You have to be a kid. You seriously cannot be that naive....
13 likes@Vaagai lol, she ain’t gonna give you pipe man.
0 likes@Bea I. Engio thank you. Troll got more attention than he deserved.
10 likes@Dommi Davros She lied the entire way through her case, she never showed any emotion for her child, she never called the police, her mom did it for her, and she tried to avoid talking to them on the very first call, she went and partied after Caylee went missing, had the smell of decomposition in her vehicle, searched up ways to suffocate someone the day Caylee was last seen, her remains had duct tape on her airways and the same clothes on her from the last day she was seen, Casey used Caylee’s name in past tense when speaking with her parents at times, and the body was found not even 2 miles from their house, the defence argued drowning, which makes 0 sense whatsoever considering the duct tape on her skull. If you think Casey is innocent, you have some major issues you need to work on.
8 likes@Dommi Davros bro she literally lied to detective’s multiple times during the investigation, also again WHO THE FUCK WOULD WAIT A MONTH BEFORE CALLING TO REPORT THEIR CHILD MISSING. Also how can you explain Casey’s lack of emotions all throughout the investigation?
9 likes@DK O’Sullivan - Hence my point that either her defence was amazing or the prosecution were terrible! Either way they were unable to prove her guilt and the jury didn't buy it either!
0 likes@Dommi Davros lol wtaf
6 likes@Otterstone Gamer imagine that’s defense any killer gets away Scott free from a crime would say. I wasn’t found guilty so I didn’t do it
3 likes@Dommi Davros The professionals proved she did it.
6 likes@Dommi Davros she did it
4 likes@Dommi Davros Yawn, trolling on these kind of videos is a different kind of gross.
8 likes@Dommi Davros she is the killer bro
5 likes@Bill Cipher Well they obviously didn't prove enough to put her away! She walked free after all!
0 likes@CubeThePixel - Yeah probably! Just a shame the prosecutors didn't do their job!
0 likes@coolkidsneversleep - What does the "a" stand for?
0 likes@Dommi Davros oh goan juts pack it in
1 like@Silence Shattered Which is what I said at the start! 🙄
0 likesIf she wasn’t lying then what’s with all the lies? What’s with the internet searches about suffocation and the ductt tape, the smell of death from her car, and the fact that she didn’t search for her daughter but instead partied?
5 likesIt’s just a coincidence she died from suffocating and her mom that didn’t try to find her at all, didn’t talk about trying to find her, talked about her in the past tense and had been researching suffocating before writing in her diary about how she made the right decision and how better her life was now? One hell of a coincidence… coincidences.
I hate it when people just call everyone they don’t like trolls, but are you trolling or what?
I mean, certainly you do understand the difference between someone being found innocent based on lack of evidence and someone being innocent because they didn’t commit the crime right?
5 likesIf someone is found innocent based on technicality does that mean they didn’t commit the crime?
I really find it hard to believe you can’t understand this concept.
@Justin Martin I don't use the word "troll" lightly either, but in the case of this other person, it fits. They really aren't worth anyone's time.
4 likes@Electric Soup - 🤨 I just hope this "other person" you're referring to isn't me!
0 likes@Dommi Davros you're exactly who I'm referring to, yes.
6 likes@Dommi Davros her lawyer was just too good
0 likes@Milky Way I have sympathy when they are concerned the safety of a 2 year old girl that to their knowledge is still alive, just kidnapped. Just because the justice system sucks, doesn’t mean we should waste all of their time, especially the detectives that are assigned to kidnapping investigations.
2 likes@Milky Way naw, you're definitely not being honest and objective, lol. You're only continuing to prove my point though as you further argue your silly narrative. Good job! 😂👍
1 like@Milky Way so in other words, you have no argument. 😂 Okay, clown.
1 like@Electric Soup I have made my arguments and all you come back with is your fake lol 😆. Grow up Casey Anthony. Its funny how you didn't respond to anything I said.
0 likesI'm so sick of that word. Narcissist is so over used, and everyone claims "this person is a narcissist" when in reality, it effects 1.5% of the population and its extremely rare. I despise Casey, but she only meets a few of the criteria and barely at that. She's alot of things, a Narcissist she isn't.
0 likes@Vaagai ر
0 likes@Dommi Davros thank you for the laugh
0 likes@Truth Love Justice Justice should decend upon her some day. At least she is not a serial killer, she would've did better than Dr death in body count if she is a true psychopath and became a doctor.
0 likes@electric soup. She was tested several times. No narcissism, no psychopathy. So whatever she is, she's not, by current definition, a
0 likesNarcissistic psychopath
@Electric Soup The tests results were part of the court papers. Probably still under some kind of jurisdiction, though I believe one of the authors of the many books about her quoted that, so I would think he was at least a psychologist to be able to access the material. Anthony... and I'm not saying I think she is innocent, has no more traits of psychopathy or narcissism than anyone. Which stunned me rather. I would have thought she had some kind of disassociative disorder, but it was never proved in law. Hence the result.
0 likes@arianbyw could you kindly then maybe lead me to where I can start to find this information? Not trying to sound like an asshole, it's just you sound so confident in your opinion, I'd like to be informed too, and telling me it might be in a book somewhere doesn't really narrow it down, lol. This was a high profile case, so no doubt many books were written about it.
0 likes@Electric Soup I did reply but it seems to have got lost. I am in UK so I have no idea of US state laws regarding information re: legal cases. The case was some time ago, so it may be a matter of court record, or archived online. I suggest you try that first. Or perhaps the records may be in the actual court house where the case was heard. Or a library. Like I said, I am not conversant with how legal documents are stored in your country. It may also be that only professionals can access the material. I am not saying Anthony IS innocent, just that her tests seem to indicate a disassociative disorder rather than narcissism or psychopathy. And that was not proved in law at the time. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
0 likes@arianbyw that's okay, thanks. If you sent a link, YouTube deletes it. Until I find confirmed sources of her mental health, it's safe to say we're both making assumptions. Hell, maybe we're both right.
0 likesSecond time posting this comment. YouTube censorship makes no sense to me.
She’s talking in the Past tense
2 likesShe’s got those crazy eyes. All men know what I mean.
0 likesThere’s something so disturbing about hearing her lie to the police about information that they can very easily verify.
92 likesHow the hell does this woman have a nanny for 2 years, and her parents have never seen her, met her, spoken with her, etc? The enabling here is on another level.
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Xanny was most likely a pseudonym for Xanax
2 likesThe fact she was found to be smoking weed while her daughter was supposedly kidnapped for a month is all kinds of crazy
57 likesI've just watched the video of the Jen Pan case. So they arrest a girl for life for killing her abusive parents, but an abusive parent who kills her child, got away? What a beautiful world we live in.
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Same
0 likesIf she had any ounce of empathy she could've simply given her child to her parents who I think would've been more than willing to take her.
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almost any grandparent would raise their grandchildren if the parent isn’t fit to do so. sadly there are many people out there that are just not parent material but think admitting it makes them a horrible person. it’s not for everyone and it’d take a lot more courage to admit it and make sure they’re raised properly than it does to stick around and make them miserable.
0 likesi haven't finished the video yet so i don't know if it mentions this but i read an article about the jury and their thought process. most of them agreed that Casey wasn't guilty of first degree murder (it was 10 to 2), and when they moved on the aggravated murder they were* split down the middle. one of them said that things got really intense at that point, and eventually there was only one man that refused to acquit her and only agreed to do so after he realized that there was no way for him to convince the rest of the jury that she did it. i don't know which member it was but that poor guy probably feels so guilty over this when he tried his best.
5 likesWell that was mind blowing. Did anyone else want to see Caseys' dads reaction to the alleged child abuse? If this was untrue, which there's a good chance it was, he'd be heartbroken.
15 likesVery nice video! Excelent analysis of this very sad event... The mentioned name Juliette Lewis is a famous Hollywood movie actress. "Coincidently", one of her most known movies is entitled "Natural Born Killers", directed by Oliver Stone and starring Woody Harrelson, who plays the role of "Mickey Knox", couple of "Mallory Wilson" (Juliette Lewis). "Coincidently", the film tells the story of two victims of traumatic childhoods who become lovers and mass murderers, and are irresponsibly glorified by the mass media. "Coincidently", in my humble opinion, Casey also has a lot of physical resemblance with Juliette Lewis... Would Casey reference of Juliette Lewis as a work colleague be some kind of unconscious projection of who she would like to be? Would this reference be some kind of Casey's riddle or joke related to the character of the movie? Art Imitates Life or Life Imitates Art? Who will ever know... May God protect us all from this kind of tragic events...
11 likesI can understand not wanting kids or the physical and emotional responsibility that comes with being a mother but this is just insane. I remember Casey Anthony being on TV when I was younger so this is definitely intriguing to research years later as an adult.
0 likescould you imagine working at a job & then years after you've left you get a call that a sorta-kinda co-worker name dropped you in a missing child/ murder trial? poor jeff dude
28 likesIt really is remarkable to watch these detectives at work. Sometimes they get it wrong, but dang they were absolutely spot on. Same thing for the case of Jennifer what's-her-name and the kid who pretended to be crazy. Both are videos on this channel.
0 likesI just think its SO creepy that she has calm conversations with the police... without trying again and again to ask questions about what they are doing to find her kid.
6 likesIt’s just unbelievable that she avoided the legal consequences for her actions. Plenty of times in regard to Cayle she speaks about her in a past tense and then fixes it for present tense. I think that is the most wicked part. Actively constructing this huge lie. Orchestrating the a huge lie is one thing. But for that lie to be a cover up for you’re own daughters death, at you’re own hands is nothing short of insane.
0 likesIt must be such an exhilarating feeling to know you’re guilty and then sit there and then they say not guilty
2 likesIt’s sad because I believe this killed her father!! I still can’t believe this girl was found not guilty... Never forget this!! I watched every court date at work in between patients..
3 likesThis case has the worst outcome, since O. J.
1 likeThis woman is openly admitting to be happy now that she's "free". Imagine your child dying, ignoring that she most likely killed her, but just that you lost your kid, and you feel better than with it?
How about give your kid up for adoption, instead of killing it?
so the defense basically lied their way to her freedom. I'm actually astounded, and disturbed, that she managed to get away with murder. she actually killed her own child, pretty much wrote about it in her diary, previously googled of how to kill someone, and the jury managed to find her not-guilty, they honestly need to have their search history checked and to be investigated themselves. As does the defense lawyer. I physically CAN NOT understand how the defense lawyers can sleep at night knowing they allowed for a child murderer to walk free.
0 likesThis lawyer must be really proud of himself and must have made partner, after this case. I just hope that nothing remotely resembling to this, ever happens to his love ones!!!
3 likesone thing I must appreciate. police - detective did great job. hats of to you all. I am astonished!!! how jury panel took it!! didn't they see evidences?? facts!! God bless Caley's soul. she did not get justice she deserve.
0 likesI hope this jury is haunted with this for the rest of their lives. This woman with a car that smells like a corpse, while her daughter is missing is out partying and is completely indifferent the entire time, lives about everything. Not just one thing, but everything. This defense attorney literally stole the victims voice in this trail simply because she could not be there for herself. He said it out loud in his final deliberation. Yes this disgusts me because this monster is walking amongst us rather than 6 feet under.
0 likesI like how doubtful the defense attorney sounded when he talked about the justice system working.
0 likesOh. Do not be fooled. It did not work. And he knew it. He's good at lying. Not as good as she is.
This has been and will haunt him for the rest of his life.
Hello. Did some of your video's become unavailable or taken down? If so that's a shame, I really enjoy your content and hope to see more video's in the future! 10/10 favorite channel for crime / psychology related content, thank you!
0 likesthe last statement made by the defense had me absolutely disgusted. all of them all heartless and the evidence was right in their face.. i have never experienced so much hatred towards people i don't even know. rest in peace, dear caylee
0 likesUndeniable proof that a jury is ridiculous. I really hope the members of this particular jury don't get a single, decent night's sleep. Holy fuck, I'm so damn angry.
3 likesSense this video's topic is the psychology of Casey Anthony and not about the case itself, I understand why it didn't detail the evidence. I never looked into this case before, but after watching this video I searched 'evidence against casey anthony';
0 likes- A FBI specialist on hair samples proved a nine inch hair strand in Casey's trunk came from a dead person and matched the DNA of the Anthony family (Caylee included, based on a match from her hair brush).
- A scientist detailed evidence of a decomposed body had tainted the atmosphere of Casey's trunk
- Instructions on how to make chloroform were included in Casey's internet search history. (this was included in the video too)
- The duct tape found on Caylee's mouth is of a rare brand that Casey's family owns in their garage.
One of the top comments of this video states that this is one of the worst miscarriages of justice. Before I looked up the evidence and solely went by what this video detailed, I was about to wholeheartedly disagree. And that is because the defense attorney was stating that no evidence outside of Casey's unusual behavior was presented by the prosecution. If THAT were true, then the jury was right to say not guilty. Because you need proof, you need evidence, you should NOT base such an important decision solely on the character of the defense, you should not prefer character discrimination and stereotyping in this context, no matter how "obvious" a person's attitude or behavior may be in being guilty.
Now that I know of what else was presented to the jury in terms of physical evidence, can I agree with that top comment that this was a miscarriage of justice. I say all this to explain that no one should conclude that Casey is guilty solely from what's presented in this video. I cannot stress enough how terrible and a true miscarriage of justice it would be to base convictions solely on character. So this is why I listed other evidence involved. Anyone who also believes Casey is guilty as hell should know these points to justify their opinion.
She would never have been like this if her parents didn’t let her get away with everything
7 likesMy little sister’s name is Kaylee and I remember my mom being so disturbed by this case especially since the victim had a name so similar to my sister
3 likesDamn.. My dog went missing once for 10 minutes. At minute 2 I was already in panic, crying and calling the police..
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1 likeShe's a manipulative liar and she killed her daughter. I'm flabbergasted that she was acquitted. The justice system is a joke.
3 likes@29:25
1 likeBreaks my HEART!!! Seeing her father being soooo loving and supporting!
For her ti slam him and make lies about him up in court!💔💔💔
Such a shame.. how the heck can anyone get away with such an horrific crime.😩😩
0 likesNot once did she shed a proper tear for her child, shld of been held accountable for this, anyone cld see that she was guilty of this crime, our justice system fails us
0 likesdear defense, if you don’t have any “proof” about her being guilty, how come can you have proof she’s not guilty either?
3 likesThe way people can weave these stories like realistic fiction has to be the most terrifying thing about this entire situation. That if the prosecution didn’t have a good lawyer to disprove the stories justice for this lass would not have been served.
1 likeDetectives: got a lot of solid evidence to found her guilty
4 likesHer lawyer: She's not guilty bro, believe me
Judge: Declares her inocent
dead body smell in car, baby missing for a month never reported, telling family and friends it was a waste calling them because they're emotional, never cries about the child.. she got away with it and the attorney says that the justice system didn't fail. times like this makes me wish the double jeopardy law didn't exist.
0 likesI had heard the US justice system was bad, but...jeez. How on earth did she get away with that? I'm broken
0 likesThe Google search on "how to properly suffocate a child" ALONE and in itself- should have been every single piece of evidence they needed. The End.
2 likesJust realized that the nickname Zanny feels only similar to Xanny as in Xanax, makes me wonder how Caylee really passed and what Casey was indulging in.
1 likeCasey shaking her head during the trial. What are your thoughts? I think she simply refuses to acknowledge the truth.
1 likeThen on a separate topic I'm horrified by the Defense's arguments. Appalled even. That Defense attorney is just as bad as Casey. IMHO.
Who on the earth goes for a party the next day after her child found missing / abducted / murdered.. She has got off this case very cunningly..
2 likesAnybody noticed : Casey said : You always were great grandparents for kayle, and then she corrects right away : you are great grandparents for her !!!
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I picked that up when I first watched as well , it's clear the family doesn't believe her
0 likesShe would have been the same age as my brother who's now 16. I wonder what she would have accomplished and what she would have done with her life. That poor baby 💔 makes me absolutely sick
0 likesI’m so happy to hear this story on this channel ❤️✨
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Happy?
1 like@Mothlicious Yes, I love JCS inspired videos. Confused? 🙃
0 likesI find it entertaining that the main point of the defence's argument is that it cannot be proven without reasonable doubt.
0 likesThen goes on TV and says she definitely did not kill her.
Even though you cannot prove without reasonable doubt that she didn't.
Holy fuck, those lawyers helped not just a murderer go free, but a mother who murdered her own child go free. I hope that weights heavy on them for the rest of their pathetic lives.
4 likesI can't remember, did George ever address the accusation that he abused Casey? They showed his face after Baez mentioned it in opening but he didn't appear shocked or upset.
0 likesCasey has such a main character attitude and way of taking it’s infuriating
1 likeI seriously hope her parents have kept a safe distance from her. She's a monster.
0 likesThe only reason she cried when her mom told her raise her head she need to look into her eyes. Because she know her moms knows when she’s lying that way.
1 likeJCS: No psychological abnormalities were found by psychologists.
0 likesAlso JCS: Cuts to still frame of Casey giving the camera the sociopath stare.
This makes me sick to the core. To think people genuinely get away with murder and then others are falsely accused and sentenced. Disgusting.
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Blame the state attorneys. They did an absolutely terrible job.
11 likes@Karma Global TV is it wrong though?
4 likes@Moo Moo Kitten Tacos I blame the idiots in the jury. They knew the evidence and despite everybody and their dog telling them to follow the evidence, they went with their feelings and now a child-killing sociopath is free.
4 likesIn America, you have the jury system, that’s why she’s free
0 likesYou’re one of the few people to think she’s actually innocent, check the internet. Google her name, watch the videos of her... that’s not a mother in grief
2 likes@Nomo Sapiens have you actually seen the full trail? This whole case was botched. Police were alerted multiple times about the area where Caley's body was eventually found and nobody bothered to search it properly until 5 months later. At which point the body had decomposed too significantly. The medical examiner didn't even examine the body properly and gave misleading and inconclusive statements, leading to doubt that there actually was evidence of a murder.
0 likesThe jury aren't there to give the conclusion you want. They were told "this is a trail about first degree murder" but weren't presented with unquestionable truth. The prosecutors called for the death sentence. If that jury was going to convict this idiot Casey of death, it needed to be 100% without a doubt true that she'd committed a murder.
But that's not what they were given.
@Tommy2Toes The fact that there is a jury system means there is a broken ass system, sentencing should be done by a judge only
0 likes@Henri Lewis I've never said the justice system always yields success. It's just insanely cringe for someone in the youtube comments deem the person as guilty based on an 1 hour video, when the verdict has taken 6 weeks of deliberation. He didn't even give any arguments, literally just virtue signalling.
0 likesEMPIRE F4N because his argument is ultimately from emotion, as is yours.
0 likesOPs case: “Casey strikes me as inhuman - her appearance is revolting and disgusting. Ergo, the end result of her case seems absurd.”
Yours: “Your limited knowledge strikes me as cringe. The authority of the justice system trumps a measly commenter’s opinion.”
My response to you lies in the cringe response. The justice system CAN be wrong, so OP rightfully feels disgust. I suppose you can rightfully feel cringe at his disgust, but then there’s really no argument on your part - a visceral emotional reaction is simply a reaction. You can justify your reaction, as can he, but these are not directly causal explanations, but useful justifications which help us explain subjective experiences to each other.
At the end of the day, then, his emotions are just as valid as yours but, to me, a cringe response and a pretension of objectivity (that the justice system knows better) is an unfair treatment of what is ultimately a subjective statement on the part of OP.
To judge someone for how they feel is, in my opinion, bizarre.
@Henri Lewis Stating that jury's verdict should be held in higher regard than some random person's opinion is not an emotional argument. Just because a very small percentage of people are wrongfully prosecuted, does not justify using emotional arguments, especially when someone's life depends on it, and I am really glad that jury usually tends not to do that. If he found an issue in the timeline of events that took place and pointed it out, I would have never said anything.
0 likesEMPIRE F4N no, the arguments are still ultimately reducible to emotion. Some argument that the jury was not swayed by the emotions of the defending attorney is ultimately predicated on your attitude towards that jury.
0 likesAn argument that “the jury likely knew better” is still only that - a likely argument. The likelihood and believability therein is still ultimately due to emotion.
The onus transfer on the part of the defending attorney is doubtful. It’s akin to creating a mysterious boogeyman that solves all the problems on Casey’s part. We can analyze it suspiciously like that, or we can believe it as true and sweep all of Casey’s absurdity under the rug. It seems the jury did the latter. The absence of evidence here is not the evidence of absence. The absence of evidence, rather, gave credence to DOUBT in the evidence - the sweeping under the rug.
Again, emotion is the ultimate player here.
@Henri Lewis The likelihood of jury knowing better is based on the qualifications they have attained and all the experience they have had working in their field.
0 likesIt's absurd for someone concerned about wrongful prosecutions to point that that absence of evidence should at any time be used in court against someone. I am also glad that according to UN's Declaration of Human Rights people are innocent until proven guilty and that the state has to prove the wrongdoing. Otherwise you'd have states prosecuting and throwing people into prisons authoritarian style.
EMPIRE F4N Prospective jurors are chosen randomly, as far as I’m aware - ie, they have no super especial qualifications making them enlightened citizens. They’re not big brained elites.
0 likesIn any case, the allegations of pedophilia were what supported Anthony. If you don’t think that swayed the jurors emotionally at least in part and if you don’t think it’s an extremely dubious allegation, the truth of which doesn’t seem to be evidenced anywhere online in any concrete sense other than speculation, that’s fine. Go ahead and think it. All I claim is this - you have no absolute grounds for thinking it, and you shouldn’t use that opinion to malign someone like OP as cringe.
Again, all I aim to say here is that OP’s FEELINGS are justified. That there IS POTENTIALLY dubious work here, and that jurors CAN make mistakes, and to be dismissive of that isn’t appropriate.
appeals to some crap absolute truthfulness of the jury are bullshit. That’s all I mean, that’s all I care about, especially when that appeal is being used to shut down discourse.
@D P well I would definitely take it deeper than that, but, yeah
0 likes@sir ragbol did you delete the comment you posted @ me? cause I would too if i said that XD
1 like@Tommy2Toes I read that the jury very likely believed that she did it, they just felt the state did not do well enough to remove reasonable doubt.
0 likesIt's just one of those cases that slip through the cracks.
What was the problem to send a child to an orphanage? Like why would you murder your own child?
1 likeif her mom doesn’t even fully believe her there is something wrong…her mom said “i don’t know her involvement”
2 likesI don’t know how her parents believed her excuse about not graduating. If your time tables were mixed up, you would’ve fixed it by then. The parents are good people, I just hate how they were enabling that behaviour then. No wonder Casey got away with things, she never faced consequences for anything and no one called her out. How on earth did the jury agree on that verdict??????
1 likeWhat’s even sadder is the Zenaida is literally a real person and tried to sue but they tossed it since wasnt meant to hurt her reputation WHAT THE HELL?? what type of connections this woman got
0 likes“I saw my daughters car and it smelled like there was a dead body in there” that is chilling.
2 likesHow this waste of human flesh got COMPLETELY off is beyond me. Everything points to her being guilty....and 14 years later she's walking free amongst the public.
2 likesThere are people who've been arrested for far less, punished far worse, and have had their lives ruined. I have absolutely no faith in our justice systems here in North America.
The way Casey tries to say everything in a professional manner and use big words is cringe as hell
2 likesShe definitely gave that lawyer the slurp slurp for him to go that hard in the case
1 likeI feel bad for the grandparents. If she didn't want to be a mother anymore why didn't she give her up for adoption or even give custody to her parents. I wouldn't wish any child be put up for adoption but I'd rather see a child live, love and grow than to have their life cut short especially by the one who birthed her. Sad story overall, prayers & condolences to Caylee and her grandparents/family.
0 likesIt’s crazy Scott Peterson gets convicted for the exact reasons Jose Baez says the defense tried to do for Casey Anthony.
2 likesMiss u JCS
I refused to watch this for the longest time because I knew it would set me off. Just watched it today...and now I'm infuriated.
0 likesher car smelled like a dead body
0 likesher google searches were talking about how to choke someone
she went out partying while her kid was missing
she wrote in her diary she was the happiest she had ever been while she was missing
didnt call the cops when she 'found out' her kid was missing
and shes still found not guilty??
29:56 “I’m so glad that she’s had both of you” then she corrects herself and says “has” 🧐
0 likesShe is sick! I can’t believe God take all these good people and People like her are still here.
0 likesHer defense lawyer did a very very very good job! But i didnt think it will work... thats just crazy. The devil won.
0 likesat least she was a couple years in prison. RIP little angel!
Well she did get away with everything, not just with her parents. Idk how, so crazy
0 likesThis poor little kid had to die so premature just because she was born to the most cruel mother imaginable. Somewhere in the video somebody says that Casey thought she could get away with anything by just lying as hell about it. Well, turns out she didn't just think that, but was actually correct. And what about the jurors!? Not content with the fact Caylee had to die so young they are making a mockery of her death. And as if this wasn't too much to take already, the defense uses the term "disgusting"! I would honestly try to hold any of the jurors responsible every time a child is being killed as this is what a murderer can learn from this case: The life of this child is not as important as one might think. No justice anymore!
1 likeThey must've sent out jury duty service to the lowest scoring IQ people in the state of Florida for this case!!
0 likesThe Defence aterneys opening & closing statement! Wow. I think this is what swayed the jury. If i ever needed a Lawyer thats who i want :P
0 likesThis case, the O.J. Simpson case... the US justice system is nothing but a joke, you can literally get away with anything.
1 likeNo mention of Roy Kronk? One of the weirdest angles of the whole story, with still some unanswered questions.
1 likeParents: Calley's been found dead!
5 likesCasey: ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS!?!
Oh God she had to do an awkward "I don't rlly work here I'm just buying time" shame walk. Lmao
0 likesDid they not do an autopsy to figure out if she did actually drown like if there was water in her lungs or signs of something or did they just assumed that and use that as foder? I don't agree with the fact that she got off freely personally but I do understand that sometimes it's hard to do things without emotion or that perhaps I could be biased because I have strong emotional reactions to things but based off of the evidence that there was I feel like she should have got in trouble for something and not just gotten off scot-free. I would have loved to see the evidence as it came in and not look at it from an already happened circumstances I don't understand did they not do an autopsy? It just continues to confuse me.
0 likesHer family and friends, in that early phone call, all of them asked her where Kaylee was.
0 likesNo hay justicia, increíble que no fue a prisión.
0 likesit hurts that she's probably watching this video.. and just laughing about it
0 likesCasey's parents definitely would fall for the "it says gullible on the ceiling" prank.
0 likesNo need to end a young ladies life for a 3 years late abortion. She should get carbon credits.
0 likesthis is crazy and if im not mistaking did they say her dad molested her?! If she lied on her dad i can only imagine 😬
0 likesAbsolutely shocked by the verdict, so confused and angry
0 likesHow can they question her alibi, The guy the gave her the nannies number and the person she worked with and has kids, He comes along and says its all lies and does not even have kids, That and much more proof she was the last one to see her daughter. Yet she still does not get convicted for murder....... HOW? i am so confused!!!!
0 likesI'm not sure this jury understood what "reasonable doubt" means... Keyword here is REASONABLE.
0 likesHer parents threw her a graduation party and bragged that she graduated with honors when she flunked out? WTF?
0 likesThat molestation thing about her father I wasn't expecting that
0 likesShe lied about talking to Caylee! She lied about the nanny! She wasn’t at all interested in talking to police about her daughter! Why is she free?!?!
0 likesI wonder if all the lawyers who get murderers off, then got murdured by the person they got off, would they be so keen to defend murderers.....food for thought
0 likesOh now I get it… judge was asleep 90% of the time
0 likesThe law system is just fucking ridiculous, this whole court room scene just tolled the story of "we don't care about the truth but only how good of an actor the lawyers are", what a disgusting sight to see. I wonder if this would went the same route if the accused wasn't white. I understand that without this procedure many innocent people would get sentenced but when criminals can abuse the systematic law than it's about time to think of a better solution, of course granted if they actually want a working society but lets be honest thats not really the governments goal. I'm not saying I have a better solution than this but neither do I think that I'm a smart person so get those smart people on fixing this cuz letting a drug abusing, self centered, egoistical, murdering mother walk free isn't a good picture of the ohhh so important "American freedom" that we the rest of the world all hear about, cuz if this is the big American dream than I'm starting to understand why some people actually side with Russia.
0 likesDetective Allen is such a savage... they are totally gaslighting Casey
0 likes29:56 you can even hear her talk about her daughter in the past tense!
0 likesOf course the jury from Orange County, Florida finds Casey Anthony not guilty. I very much doubt half of them even knew how to read in the first place.
0 likesSucks not knowing what to believe. None of us were there though, so we cannot prove anything. No matter what you’ve seen or heard, none of us were there.
0 likesWtf.... I refuse to accept the outcome of this case..... This can't be true!!!!!
0 likesNot me half way in telling my mum "she is in prison now" not knowing at the end shes found not guilty
0 likesShe did everything to get out of there but nothing to find her daughter nowdays you can do everything and nobody cares. So so sad for the baby
0 likesI blame her parents for the person she became. They allowed her to get away with murder every day of her life, until she actually killed someone. This is what’s wrong with the world today, parents who don’t actually RAISE their children to be decent humans. 😠😒
0 likesThis is wild. How is she free?
0 likes--edit--Oh, She had a good liar... I mean lawyer.Shes one of the best liars ive ever seen omg
0 likesThe defense’s statements sounds like I’m being told a story or being I instructed by a teacher and not giving evidence
0 likesThis feels like a US version of the Madeline case.
0 likesWhy do I say that? The amount of lies and run arounds she's giving...
I watched this case from day one. I think she was young, immature and wanted to run around with friends and party instead of the responsibility of parenthood. She wanted to let a friend adopt the child but her mom wouldn't allow it. I think she had a lot of resentment toward her parents. I think Casey was on the computer flirting, playing around whatever. I think Caylee did get in the pool and drowned. The thing is I think she was afraid of her mom's overbearing presence and that she freaked out knowing she would get the blame and never be forgiven. She knew they would call the police, kick her out literally that life as she knew it was over. I think she wrapped the child up put her in the bags and then drove around with her in the trunk trying to figure out what to do with her and making up a story that she could pull off and make believable. I think when the smell became too much she dumped her. The partying and all that may have been trying to live it up before eventually getting caught which she had to know was coming. Either way it was cold and callus. I'm probably way off but there is so much to this story that will never add up no one will ever know the truth except Casey and we all know she will never tell the truth about anything.
1 likeShame on justice department
0 likesPsychopathy is a real curse sometimes.
0 likes21:00 minutes in, and i don't regret my decision to have no children, cuz my significant other might be this fucking insane.
0 likesAll the evidence were screaming she's GUILTY...
0 likesCasey's future... "It will happen this way. You may be walking. Maybe the first sunny day of the spring. And a car will slow beside you, and a door will open, and someone you know, maybe even trust, will get out of the car. And he will smile, a becoming smile. But he will leave open the door of the car and offer to give you a lift." - scene from Three Days of the Condor
0 likesThe prosecutor has the weirdest speech patterns lmao
0 likesAnyone else notice that casey said she dropped the baby at jeff hopkins’ house and later said at the nannys apt? One big lie they missed!
0 likesHow the hell did she get away with this??!!!!!!!! Did she screw a juror
0 likes“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”—Adolf Hitler. Pathological liars are the absolute worst.
0 likesShe could have done allot of things after this trial but first thing was a role in an adult film
0 likesAnyone else ever wonder if maybe there were jurors who were paid off? Idk, maybe by Jose “King Of The Courtroom” Baez? Just a thought…
0 likesShe speaks like she's trying to reach the minimum word count in an essay
3 likesThis acquittal is 100x more offensive than OJ’s. It’s completely baffling.
0 likesI watched Stephanie Harlowe's 3 part series on this case. The amount of lies out of Casey's mouth was astonishing. How a jury found her not guilty is beyond me.
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The state completely fumbled the case. They were idiots. Its not a surprise.
11 likes@Mr. M this case was 12 years ago come on now
21 likesStephanie Harlowe makes incredibly detailed videos. She covered this one in amazing detail. Worth the watch!
3 likesThe most disgusting case in child abuse and lack of justice in recent year's thats been heavily published!
1 likeMo0may she’s the best true crime YouTuber around, IMO!
2 likesLog Splitta That’s what happens when natural selection isn’t allowed to run its course. We’re forced to look after and take care of the dumb instead of letting them parish.
1 likeI like Stephanie Harlowe too. Also that chapter. Morbid on Spotify and this is why we drink. That young British girl on YouTube. I can't think of her name off the top of my head. I've been on a true crime binge lately
1 like@Log Splitta haha whoops and thank you 😊
0 likesShe is not a mastermind. She’s literally an idiot. No smart individual is gonna do the things she did and say the things she said in front of the detectives. The fact that the jury let her off with no charges is quite literally CRIMINAL.
0 likeshow in the fuck did the jury decide to let her off the hook. that is absolutely ridiculous
0 likesEver seen the movie devil's advocate? Keanu Reeves must have handpicked that jury.
0 likesSo she was molested by her father and he got no jail time guess this family has the lucky book hidden in their house
0 likesDo we know anything about the father?
0 likesI'm not sure who I dislike more; Casey Anthony or the person who had all the JCS videos taken down.
1 likeactually blown away she got off with this
0 likesthe jury and the defense are both nowhere near being qualified. no one could ever bury, in first place, their child’s corpose in a remote place, lie on every single question asked from the detectives, wait a month before making anything about it and being so cold about the DEATH of someone so much bounded to you as a kid. talking about the defense, the “key question” was replied to, his etics were out completely apart, he knows she’s guilty. everything WAS proven as happened, the truck smelled like decomposing bodies, she waited too much for it, Kaylee had tape on her face. i hope this case still haunts mr. Baez today for not giving justice to poor Kaylee.
0 likesThis case makes me so mad
0 likesThere is something decidedly dodgy about her father.
0 likesif that was a dad he wouldnt have gone free
0 likesWhy is this even an issue? Her daughter is her PERSONAL property, she gave birth to her, so she can do whatever ever she wants to her. This is the image the society and the Law give to women. The little girl definately had a father, he wasn't even mentioned. Another man's rights & responsibilities being spat upon and ignored. Had he had un paid child support, all heavens would have remembered him. Women get far less sever sentences or none, than men, for the same crime. Howmany, men get jailed for life, for being falsely accused by their women for having touched their own children in an improper manner? This Casey story is a result of the impunity granted to women by the law👍
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This bias is quite unfair. Im glad its being noticed now. Hopefully people realize and speak up about it more
1 like@DOGGER ok We men are responsible for the unfair treatment we get. We keep quiet on the injustice done towards us. Women DON'T! The society has it that, to "cry" or complain when being hit or maltreated by a woman is not "Manly", to hell with that! In so many countries, men have NO RIGHT what so ever over their children, only OBLIGATIONS. How is it O.k., that a woman can abandon a baby at an orphanged and even sign documents saying, she has no legal bonds with the baby- FREEDOM (go and make another bаsт@*гд, the has you covered). But a man can't refute something that was drunkly conceived in the club toilet??
1 likeI was thinking she is going to confess but she is out rn , that's fucked up
0 likes"Most of you will know"
0 likesI doubt it
Kasey is a liar. I mean yikes I’m a liar too. But this is OFF THE CHAIN.
0 likes"the school of her truancy" shows a picture of my high school
1 likeA true monster.
0 likes12 angry men must have been in the jury
0 likesthat was not her judgement day.....she is yet to face it
0 likesWell, courts are fucked up, I guess...
0 likes29:54 accidental slip into past tense and immediate correction.
0 likesThis is sickening
0 likesDefinitely Guilty.
0 likesit is so sickening how her parents coddle her like a small child. Theres alot of her problems right there!!
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White parents. Live without consequences
25 likes@hooligan wait what? Her parents really screwed up but you think only white parents can do that?
35 likes@Saj Ayyy That's the most racist thing I've seen in this comment thread (so far.)
69 likesBruh her parents were manipulated by Casey and they just love their child too much
12 likes@al the spook the thing about covering for her skipping school is not being manipulated by her. That is weakness in their parenting.
10 likes@Saj Ayyy are you that guy who knows Haskell
0 likes@Charles Shorma it is weakness in their parenting but what it really is is enabling.
4 likes@Charles Shorma I was responding to Saj ayyy with sarcasm I don’t think that
6 likes@Saj Ayyy the main reason this is racist is because you strip away any and all faults and look at just what their skin color not how they failed as parents and let her believe she could do what ever she wanted based on she could lie cheat or even in this case kill to get out of what she didn’t want
8 likesSo true.
0 likes@Charles Shorma yup
0 likes@hooligan not really, its basically a pattern you can see in most "whites" across all time, and more lately, actually.
1 likeEven school shooters (which are mostly, if not all white) get more leeway when confronted with the authorities, vs any other kind of "race" commiting a crime.
@999Claymore and to top it, the whole racist basis that Zenaida is "mixed; black and puertorrican" is so wrong that I am not surprised you're defending the "whites" just because they might share your color.
1 likeJust check your own brain, it might be missing a good chunk
I think partially they are trying to make her realize that no matter what she could have done they still love her. They really seemed to be trying to get her to come out and tell them what really happened.
1 like@The Artisan but it isn’t because they are white it’s because they are bad parents and even worse people I can tell you this right now not every white parent is an enabler and if I hadn’t have graduated my parents would never lie about me graduating to anybody especially to friends or family they would be the first to express immense Appointment and my family would probably follow suit
0 likesAnd you could probably say that my family is an outlier but I have never met a white family that would be ok with their child murdering someone and I’m willing to bet that that is the majority but all of these cases of family’s that stick to the murder are being blown out of water because it helps to sell something when multiple people share a delusion of their child killing someone is ok but I think we can all agree that this case is revolting not only in the fact that she murdered her daughter but then got away with it Scott free which just shows how easily a jury can be manipulated into a false verdict
0 likesprobably a factor in her developing this deceitful fake personality, she always got away with it and never got punished
0 likesdoes anyone else feel like her relationship with her parents is bizarre in a way? it’s almost like she’s controlling them
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A spoiled little girl, manipulating her parents.......
27 likesYOU DONT SAYYYYY.......
WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT???
No way, not with today's youth
4 likesWas the abuse from her father true ?... If true,that's where her power came from.She basically blackmailed them ever since.
23 likes@vhenry75 no allegations of abuse were ever proven to be true, against her or the daughter
8 likesYup...which is weird because from the way she acts you’d think she was the only child. But she has a brother.
9 likesYes! Her parents just take whatever crap she throws at them. It’s bothered me from the start of this tragic incident.
14 likest this happened over a decade ago and Casey Anthony was in her twenties. So why are you going on about “kids these days” in multiple comments? That has nothing to do with anything lol Are you a bitter boomer or something?
31 likes@Whym Z Love is blind. The father knew though, look at him in comparison to the Mother during the visit. I would put money on the fact she was spoilt due to being strange and they hoped it would somehow go away.
4 likes@Chelsea Fisk She's a millennial. Pretty much the spoiled brat generation.
4 likesautumn s she doesn’t respect them at all it’s disgusting rather talk to her boyfriend rather than her mom like wtf
2 likesI'm having the same problem with my parents at the moment. it seems the public are no longer free thinkers n are in like in a brain washed state, caused by the lies in schools and the media. so if someone like me, who can't be made a slave out of n just left school because it wasn't for me. looks at the rest of the public in this day and age, u end up breaking free of the vail by not attending the school progrme n just living naturally and freely like we are supposed to.so after a while u start noticing how the public are kinda drones who only do n say what they see on the news n don't form their own opinions n are to scared to for an up when they do have an opposing opinion. hence why people who didn't do well in school are very clever people in this day and age, because they broke free of the brain washing. so what I'm saying after a while the everyday public including her parents come across as simple as fuck n kinda need to be babyed to get them to understand you because they are just so nieve to how curropt our world really is
1 like@autumn s yes, she seems to have true narcissistic personality disorder (not the common accusation given to self centered people).
2 likes@vhenry75 It wasn't true!
2 likesYeah I was thinking the same thing during her phone call to her mother from prison. Casey has an over inflated self entitlement.
1 likeit makes a lot of sense to me. my ex-boyfriend was spoiled by his mother and mentally tortured by his father. he turned out to be a compulsive liar, like Casey. lying about bizarre things like owning houses he didn't, pretending to move but not moving, pretending to be divorced but being legally separated, and on and on and on. inconsequentially, he is now doing the same thing to his daugther that his parents did to him. it's a cycle.
3 likesExactly I was thinking that...that’s insane
0 likesHer parents are probably terrified of her.
1 likeGet Offended but how exactly do go about proving that. it happened when she was a kid it would explain how she has so much power over parents the abusers groom the victims by treating them like they’re ‘special’ so giving them whatever they want
0 likesbecause she is
0 likesI’m dead scared of a women they look so nice but inside is the closest thing to hell.
1 likeGary Reilly you really can’t compare someone who murdered her child to a generation.....
1 likethe mother saw through her you can tell
3 likesCasey's parents' unconditional love & forgiveness and never extinguishing hope. So polarizing to Casey.
1 likeTSADE that’s not throwing him under the bus if he did that he also deserved to be in jail, but just because she was raped doesn’t give her an excuse to kill her kid
0 likes@Jenn Ross I didn't hear about the brother..but I have since watch an interview with the parents..all sexual allegations were false.
0 likes@Persona non grata Because it was his own daughter. Im not sure if you have kids but if some1 told me my daughter killed her toddler, I'd have a really hard time processing that. That is until I had proof ie. my daughters trunk smelling like death. I think George and his wife were in a great deal of denial until they smelled that trunk.
2 likesTSADE obviously she only said that to save her ass I’m not Denying that, I’m just sayin he could have still abused her after all he was a cop
0 likes@Mantidream Spot on comment. Once the parents were conditioned, they would be unaware that she was influencing them, even though it seems very obvious to an observer who does not have a vested interest in her. She will likely test others and try to turn the people she controls against them if she feels they are a threat. You see some of that in the footage of her phone calls where she does this.
0 likesSome manipulative people will use inappropriate affection when you first meet them, using the person introducing them as a buffer to create social ambiguity.
@A piece of chocolate Do you reject her assertion that her child was missing for 31 days, or do you only choose to believe her when she incriminates herself?
0 likes@mike mclean I hear the narrator of this video saying that, but I don't see it. What makes you think Cindy Anthony sees through her daughter? Where do you suppose Casey Anthony learned to manipulate people? It is not a rhetorical question. I am genuinely curious what you think.
0 likesI am willing to invest a bit before you respond. Casey Anthony is known to lie to cops. Her father is a cop. Her father is sitting beside her mother while her mother is trying to "find out the truth." I see a mother staying on script, trying to get her daughter to incriminate herself, and I think Casey Anthony would not interpret it any other way, regardless of what she knew had happened to her child. I do not see any honest actors in that scenario.
It’s truly, truly mind bending that she is free. What other conclusion could be reached other than GUILTY by a jury after all of the evidence that was available.
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@SirLink Try use your words to explain what you disagree with!
19 likes@465marko Because the comment is trying to excuse the entire video and case. She is clearly, categorically guilty of the crimes she was charged with. Her behavior made it even easier to believe the evidence -- but perhaps that's exactly why the defense used that perspective to manipulate the jury.
43 likesH N but a lot of innocent people suffer here so that doesn’t make sense
23 likesH N even from the pure empathy viewpoint it's better to put one innocent away every now and then. Imagine how many innocents are put to painful death, or raped, because obvious freaks like this woman are let off the hook. That one innocent in jail doesn't even scale up to numerous peoples' suffering.
8 likesTwo reasons: she's female and she's white.
11 likesMaximos Koukos thanks, very well said
1 like465marko Try using your words
0 likes@Maximos Koukos What evidence?
5 likesFWIW, I also think she's guilty. It's practically impossible to walk away from this video without believing that.
So, nobody's trying to excuse her. You're very wrong about that. The point is that there needs to be evidence to convict someone. You migjt think they're 'obvioously guilty' but you have to be able to prove it.
And acting suspiciously isn't enough evidence to convict someone. Even coupled with circumstantial evidence of google searches, it's still pretty weak.
And I think she's guilty as hell!! So - I'm sure you disagree, but I hope you at least recognise the point being made.
SHE’S FREE?
5 likes@Up B yup, free and looking to have more kids. i hope society never lets her live peacefully.
4 likesI practically blocked that out of my mind, reading these comments and realizing she's a free woman is making the veins pop out of my neck
2 likes@tatagimpera games no. The comment is written in the infinitive, so "could be reached" is correct. It's also correct to say "a jury" since it's correct to use an indefinite article in a speculative sentence. The whole sentence is in the infinitive form. Furthermore, if you understood what OP meant, then your comment is completely unnecessary and asinine.
3 likes@tatagimpera games @SirLink might want to weigh in here...?
1 likewhat evidence
2 likes465marko i also think shes guilty, 90% sure hell 95% sure, maybe 4% the girl had an accident and she tried to cover it, do i think she deserves to be killed, hell no, not evan found guilty, found guilty of what, there is no direct evidence at all. it worries me so much tht people dont understand our point here
5 likes@H N yea cause no innocent people get convicted? The reality is women are not persued in court like men are
1 like@Ryan nice racism. Wheres the evidence that white people have it easier in court?
2 likesThe only reason she walked free is the American tradition of executing people. I would also think twice before sending someone to the chair (or however you do it nowadays), unless I was 300% sure she's guilty and it is the prosecutor's job to convince me in that, which they clearly didn't do properly.
6 likesIt's because that lawyer used the same tactics that he told the jury not to -- that you shouldn't just go off of emotions and just base decision off facts. He made people second guess their feelings and instinct and, in defending, denied the fact that all her behaviors and personality are fact and evidence.
3 likes@Jesus Is king you're joking, right?
1 likeLACK OF EVIDENCE.
2 likes@Jesus Is king Ignore him as their is always someone trying to bring racism into a place where it wasn't needed on here.
4 likes@sleepy-_-tASMR There was plenty of evidence. This was the fault of the prosecution.
1 like@Maximos Koukos No, the comment explains how the american justice system works
0 likesH N she googled how to suffocate someone the same day her kid was suffocated to death. Even in America that’s 100%
2 likes@Camvin only anti white racism is normalized though. It's kinda hard to ignore
1 likeActually, it was the lack of evidence that allowed her to walk. They tried to convict her of 1st degree murder without a motive or even a clear method of death. They set themselves up for failure and would have found her guilty of Manslaughter.
4 likes@H N I hope you're being sarcastic.
1 like@rainy tee. not at all
0 likesVladimir Semin most people here don’t understand this concept but you are 300% correct.
1 like@theo theo no, are you?
0 likes@Jesus Is king then i envy you
0 likes@H N That's simply not true. It is not "Innocent until proven guilty" It is "Innocent until proven guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt"
0 likes@tatagimpera games oh dear. Very mature, I see. You're showing your age. I don't deal with children. Goodbye
0 likesH N tf does being American have to do with anything? Beside, I see everyone in the comments saying “Ya I think she’s guilty 100%” “Oh ya she’s definitely guilty but there’s just no evidence to prove it”. Obviously there is evidence to lead people to think that she’s guilty, so why wasn’t she convicted? Its just brain dead logic to say “BeTtEr To HaVe TeN gUiLtY wAlK fReE tHaN oNe iNnOcEnT jAiLeD”
0 likes@H N Nah that sentence doesn't work either. Your opinion of whether or not I'm guilty is useless. You need proof beyond reasonable doubt, not an opinion that is beyond reasonable doubt.
0 likes@H N In court your own opinion means literally zero. The jury and the judge decide who's guilty. It is up to you to convince them beyond reasonable doubt.
0 likes@H N You're making it sound like if you think I'm guilty beyond reasonable doubt, then I am guilty. I am not. Court decides who is guilty. Not you. Your opinion means nothing. Courts ruling is everything.
0 likes@H N You're saying you need 100% certainty before they are charged. That is not true. You don't need to be proven to be guilty, you need to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. The court don't need 100% certainty to find you guilty, they rarely have 100% certainty.
0 likes@H N That's not 100%. 100% is: We KNOW you did it. Reasonable doubt is: We see no other good explanation.
0 likes@H N Of course they must consider any explanation as the possible truth. How on earth did you derive "everyone is guilty until proven innocent" from what I said?
0 likes@H N what? I never said that. Are you being disingenuous or do you just need to go back read my comments again? Any explanation, regardless of how unreasonable they seem, has to be considered in court as the possible truth, which for some reason you don't think they should?
0 likesBut just because it's considered, doesn't mean you have to prove their accusation wrong in order to walk free. You just need a reasonable explanation to your innocence.
@H N Absolutely the court can rule someone guilty with only 95% certainty. Are you saying this isn't being done ?
0 likes@H N In what world do you live in where you think the court requires indisputable proof, with 100% certainty, for someone to be ruled as guilty of a crime. It is rare this ever happens and would require CCTV footage or similar. MOST rulings compares two explanations, decides whether or not one is unreasonable, and if it is, the sentence is given.
0 likes@H N All good buddy. Good on you for coming back to admit your wrongs. Though I'd advise you to refrain from calling people stupid and not very smart unless you are completely certain you are in the right.
0 likesAfter watching this video I had one reaction. no fucking way
0 likesSuper pissed. Especially after reading about what Casey is up to now: Writing a book about her story. Another chance to cash in on the murder of her own daughter. It's unbelievable she really got away with this
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She’s doing w h a t .
72 likesI hope this brings the case back into light and maybe that the truth will come out. Because if all she was saying to her family, the police, and the jury were lies, that's all she can write too.
46 likesI'm going to assume she will be arrogant enough to do book signings somewhere, and with the way this world is going, she may have a run in with someone who isn't there for the book. 😉
82 likes@Richard Cournoyer exactly…. The Punisher style….. one straight to her dome ….
16 likesShe says she is wanting to have another child soon.
5 likes@Richard Cournoyer if someone does do it I’m sure they won’t write a book about it
1 like@Caydo IF someone did, I would be 1st in line to buy it, a think a lot of parents who love their kids would put money out for that person's book. 🙂
2 likes@Shewow I pray she never does, if she does I hope people keep an eye on her at all times.
1 like@Richard Cournoyer If she does, I can only imagine it is 100% for attention or to hook someone into remaining with her. She is getting older, losing her looks and will be just as cold and manipulative as she always was. She wouldn't be the first killer to go to have kids and be free...Karla Homolka and Mary Bell both got out of prison and had a child.
5 likes@Shewow No!!!! Who would have a child with her?
3 likes@Caydo Her writing a book is irrelevant. She could be writing it to turn the tides on her indifferent aura.
0 likes@Shewow typical !
0 likes@Thunderclanwarrior12 unfortunately she will never pay for what she did because of double jeopardy
4 likesShe must have read OJ's book and a light went on in her head.
2 likesCasey will meet karma at some point
2 likes@Secret The day her parents start letting her lie about school is the day she became a habitual liar. They should have forced her in to being responsible. Spare the rod, etc…
0 likes@B my Valentine she can't be charged even if she admits it publicly
0 likeswhere do u get these updates?? i wanna know whats going on with her
0 likesSo I live in Florida and funny story, she actually recently went to a bar and immediately had drinks and food thrown at her and was cussed out to the point where she just left from what I heard. I don’t go to bars so I didn’t see her
2 likes@Shewow who will she try and pin it on if her next child dies?
1 like@Daniel Steven dear God I hope so.
1 like@millenniumf1138 file that book under fiction...
1 like@Denise Pleines OK, hear me out: Caylee. She goes for the tomato plot twist, claims her first child faked her death, then went after her second.
1 like@Shewow God no
0 likes@barbara seymour not outwitted, just a dishonest jury.
0 likes@B my Valentine Hey man, we can't judge. Casey had such a bright future ahead of her....she handed out pictures on the HULK RIDE! Do you know what that means? She is practically the President of the United States. How could we expect such a luminary to be held back by something as unimportant as an innocent human life that she created? I swear, you people are so irrational!
1 like@Denise Pleines Mom and Dad
0 likes@Shewow Even a mother with postpartum syndrome would have tried to seek a babysitter
0 likes@millenniumf1138 birds of a feather
0 likes@B my Valentine Well, to be fair, Casey did hire an imaginary babysitter.
1 likeThis women lied about everything but her name and still got off. Her parents were weak, the jury was weak, and the lawyers morality was weak. Caylee didn’t get the justice she deserved and my heart hurts for her. Rest easy Caylee.
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Don’t blame the defense attorney. He did his job.
11 likes@Kaddywompous I didn’t say he didn’t do his job. I said he’s morally weak. He was willing destroy and tarnish her father’s reputation to win a case. It takes a certain kind of person to be able to do that and smile afterwards.
87 likes@TaniaBear I still don’t know if there was any truth to that accusation. Maybe he doesn’t either. It’s not his job to conduct and conclude an investigation into her father before he represents his client.
6 likes@Kaddywompous Exactly he doesn’t know and stayed it as fact. Lol I think we’re making two different points. I understand it’s his job to get her off. However it seems as if it’s win by any means necessary, even if it’s calling her father a child molester. Normal people don’t do that, cause it’s a Fked up thing to do to another human being. Most people (not all) have a good moral compass. I understand what your saying though.
22 likes@Kaddywompous I don’t know how else to say what I’m trying to express. Your explaining his job to me. I’m talking about morals. Yes he has to provide the best possible defense with facts. Evidence that would prove his client is innocent or create reasonable doubt. I didn’t know it was ok to just concoct a story in order to do that thought. I think we just see this differently.
6 likes@TaniaBear And you assume he concocted a story. He didn’t. He presented a defense, and it’s not his responsibility, morally or otherwise, to assume his CLIENT is concocting a story.
1 like@Kaddywompous 🙂 well alright kaddy. This has been very enlightening.
6 likes@TaniaBear your point is dumb, it's his job and his moral compass has no place in the court room. Outside of it he can detest her as much as he wants, but in the court room it's his job to defend her the best he can, despite the morality. Just like the people who represent other killers and shooters or pedophiles
6 likes@RustyRants yes I seen when kaddy said that
3 likestrue story about outside they job is another story they do be worrying and despite the evidents and google search I am 9999999999999% sure if she was black it would of ended different
0 likes@C men lol why so rude? I was just saying my opinion, you don’t have to agree. And if you read the other responses I said I understood yesterday.
1 likeMy original comment was about how I felt most of the people involved in the situation let Caylee down. Not about how I feel about all lawyers. You guys read one particular point in my comment you didn’t agree with and was like “ ya I’m going in for the kill”. Again, like I said yesterday, I understand.
2 likes@Kaddywompous I can bet the lawyer isn't hiring her as a babysitter. He he made society more dangerous. His job isn't to manipulate. He is there to give her the best defense. She DIDN'T have one, so he lied and manipulated the jury. That's not what the justice system is about.
1 like@C men A lawyer's job isn't to lie and manipulate a jury. This verdict is on the defense, prosecution, and simple minded jury. Most of which since said they made a mistake.🤦🏻♀️
1 like@Horatio Nelson Godwin’s law strikes again!
0 likes@Kaddywompous he isn't sure, so he slanders the guy in court? Sounds like a terrible lawyer
3 likes@TaniaBear I would give up responding to these people if I were you. You've stated that you get he's doing his job, just that in your opinion he's morally wrong. Mine too.
4 likesJury: She is 100% percent guilty, the evidence is irrefutable
424 likesLawyer: Is she tho?
Jury: Oh damn is she?
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her persona was th only evidence tbh.
0 likesJose Baez is apparently an exceptional lawyer and the prosecutors weren't evocative with their words
0 likes@Beto Castro nothing conclusive, look at your seach history and tell me. the smell is according to her parents, the police didnt smell or see anything about the car.
0 likes@Zinou Bensalah I have not searched up anything about suffocation, especially not the day that my daughter is miraculously suffocated with duct tape around her nose and mouth. Even if none of this evidence surfaced, the pool story makes LESS sense. Why would you try to hide the fact that your daughter had drowned? Why cover it all up? And why make claims about her childhood, being raped by her dad, that have absolutely no evidence provided (besides from claims stemming from a pathological liar.) It's also amusing how this dad rape story came after a 5 minute rant about not believing something if no evidence is provided along with it. Even if her daughter had drowned in a pool, why would she go out partying and getting feel-good tattoos? It was a late abortion, and there's no question about it.
8 likes@Pierre Sainz 🅥 I don't know how you could live with yourself knowing you got a kid killer a free pass.
4 likes@gu3z1 again, this is speculation that's not how justice works, I'm not saying she's innocent, and that rape story is not the reason she got away it's obviously bs but with your logic her dad should've been in jail too based on that claim with no evidence.
2 likes@Zinou Bensalah The rape story has no evidence. Casey's alleged murder has evidence, but no direct physical evidence. Quite a large leap in nuance, especially since people are sentenced to life in prison on the daily with no direct physical evidence linking them to the crime. You don't need a law degree, there are multiple videos on this channel alone showing cases where people were found guilty without the need for direct physical evidence.
1 likeAnd "how justice works" is pretty vague since justice is made-up concept that differs from country to country, and for some reason from state to state in the USA. Justice does not require a videotape of a person stabbing another to find someone guilty of manslaughter.
I heard 10 jurors consistently claimed guilty and 2 didnt and because it’s an all or nothing the 10 gave up to go home
0 likes@Boaty McBoatFace If that is the case then I'm glad it torments them everyday.
0 likes@Robin DS all the videos on this channel where there's no hard evidence linking the person to the crime are solved with a confession. if they cant get a confession from her than she's not going to jail since there nothing linking her to the crime scene. no DNA no nothing, sadly ofc.
1 likeLol
0 likes@Zinou Bensalah no, also she was the only one person having access to each and every piece of evidence collected on the body (tape, blanket). This plus the diary plus her persona = guilty beyond any reasonable doubt imo.
2 likesShe had great legal advice tho
Would you consider yourself to be a good person?
0 likesHow many lies have you told, and what do you call someone who lies? Have you ever stolen something, and what do you call someone who steals? Have you ever taken God’s name in vain (very serious; in Old Testament times, the Jews wouldn’t even say the name of God for fear of blasphemy) – even ‘OMG’? One more: Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery in his heart; have you ever looked with lust?
Well I’m not judging you – but if you’ve done these things then you’re a liar, thief, blasphemer and adulterer-at-heart; that’s how seriously God takes sin. He is Holy (perfectly good/righteous and separate from sin) which means that H e is perfect in justice – and if He were to judge you by the moral law (we’ve already looked at 4 commandments) would you be innocent or guilty? Heaven or H**? The answer is h** – the wrath of God upon you for your sin. Is that concerning?
But fortunately, God’s will is not that you perish. He wants all men everywhere to be saved. So do you know what He did for us guilty sinners? In self-giving mercy, He sent His Son Jesus Christ. He lived the perfect life that we should have lived – tempted at all points and yet He NEVER sinned. Through His life, being in very nature God, He revealed God to men; but we in our hatred condemned Him to death. On that cross as Jesus suffered, He took on the sin of the world and was judged in our place; receiving God’s wrath. You and I broke God’s law, but Jesus paid the fine. God can justly forgive us.
On that cross He died, then He was buried, but 3 days later He was raised from the dead – conquering death and H*** and ushering in The Kingdom of God. He then ascended to the right hand of God the Father (where He came from) now Lord of the living and the dead. God has fixed a date when He will judge the world in righteousness. What you need to do is repent (In humility, acknowledge your sin before God and turn to a relationship with Him) and trust ALONE in Jesus Christ and His work on the cross; and God will grant you the gift of the Holy Spirit. Then be baptised.
When you place your trust in Jesus – the Lord and Saviour – these things will happen:
1) God will forgive the sins that you have committed; they were paid for by Jesus at the cross.
2) The perfect life that Jesus lived will be credited to you. He will find you holy and blameless on judgement day (and now), as Christ’s righteousness covers you.
3) You receive a place in Christ’s kingdom as an adopted child of God. God becomes your Father. Eternal life isn’t just about living forever, but a personal relationship with God Himself. That life can start now; The Father will reveal Himself to you if you seek Him.
4) God doesn’t just save you from the penalty of your sin (H***). He can save you from the power of sin itself. Whoever practices sin is a slave of sin; but when you repent and believe the gospel [WHICH HAS BEEN DESCRIBED] the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you and sanctify you (working in you to further abandon sin and turn to the will of God). When the end of the age comes, and eternity begins, this work will be brought to completion as you are finally freed from the presence of sin.
Jesus offers to take away your sin and to give you His righteousness; you must receive it by faith. Choose this day if you will align with the world, or with Jesus and His kingdom – only His is eternal.
ROMANS 10:9 – If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
@Francesco Silvestri excuse me what ? dont you guys have tape in the store ??
0 likesdiary didnt mention her killing her daughter, she also had no guilt, her diary said like it was the best day she had or smth, even if she had guilt tho thats still not evidence to go to jail.
@Zinou Bensalah Excuse me, I do not agree :) too many circumstantial elements, including her psychological and behavioral modus, make imo a guilty verdict as the only logical conclusion. I was very unsatisfied, yet I recognize the truly great job from the attorney. Incredible professionals can achieve almost impossible goals. But if you ask me if any court judge would eat it, and not convict her, I'd say no, I don't think so
0 likes@Francesco Silvestri even if she was deemed guilty, she would just appeal and 100% win, and can probably even sue, you cant jail someone based on their psychological behaviour. she's a shitty mom that's clear but that's not a crime, unless they found her DNA with the corpse idk how they can convict her.
0 likes@Zinou Bensalah errrrrrrrrrrrr yeah, except they did find her dna on the victim, and nobody else's. Not a proof because she's the mother, yet the whole picture is highly incriminating. Note there was the testimony, too (father), describing the corpse smell in the car.
1 likeShe is like: Mom, Dad can't we just forget about this missing daughter thing and celebrate her birthday as if she was still alive like we did when I dropped out of school? This whole situation is really inconvenient for me.
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Amy Vic it’s all so unbelievable
5 likes@L Franco that's no excuse.
3 likes@L Franco yeah, just what we need in the armed forces, a psychopath...
9 likesL Franco you need a highschool diploma or a GED for that... haven’t finished this video or researched her so idk if she went back and got that but yea she wouldn’t have made it thru and if she did pass boot camp she would have ended up getting kicked the fuck out... and/or been claiming fake rape... easily that type of person to get outa the military on medical discharge
2 likes@L Franco what would pushing her into the armed forces accomplish? do you think they'll just magically wash away her mental illnesses and social disorders or give her "direction" in her life?
2 likes@L Franco she wouldn't learn any discipline from it, she would continue to be completely fake and learn nothing other than how to more effectively manipulate and abuse her way through the ranks of the armed forces until she has more and more power over people
0 likesShe's the most confident liar I've ever seen in my life. She doesn't even waver. It's insane. I've met and worked with a lot of liars and they would always stammer and back pedal when you cornered them. This chick is just slicker than grease the whole time.
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She most likely feels no guilt associated with her lying, which makes it a lot easier. And she’s most likely deluded herself into believing every word she says.
33 likes@Kester for sure, but I've known a lot of people that don't have any guilt about their lies, they're just not quick enough on their feet. This chick is like nothing I've ever seen. Especially with the characters she makes up and her ability to just rattle off their names and back story. Its crazy she was let off.
13 likesImagine that you have many routes (or "hallways"/"doors" as Casey Anthony calls them), and 1 path is the truth and an infinite number of paths that are not truths. To her, they all look the same and reality has very little bearing on how she feels and what she says. She simply picks the path that works in her favor at that time.
10 likesA dated a guy like her. It was insane how his lies seemed so real. People like that scare me.
10 likesI find it really easy to lie like this, but I don't really lie
0 likesLa BuBu Same!
0 likesShe did stammer, panicked and made that hallway analogy. It was right before the other person interrupted, though. She got extremely lucky. These interrogators really just let her joke around with them. Sleepy guys.
0 likesIn my book, her lawyer topped her easily. His charisma was incredible and saved her life.
3 likesNot convincing tho
0 likes@Kester I think that's it, not only a lack of guilt, but an absence of various other inhibitions such as responsibility or fear of negative consequences, things that betray normal people when they lie.
1 likeIt's like she's able to detach her mind from the truth to the point where she isn't even lying. She's just saying words.
Also the way Casey says to their parents that Caylee HAS BEEN lucky to have them as grandparents and then quickly corrects herself to “IS lucky”. That to me seems that she knew her daughter was no longer alive at that point. It was so clear all along that she’s guilty!
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Also Cindy starts crying after she hears her say that so that was probably the moment she knew for sure that Casey killed her.
22 likes@Cozy Afterglow Exactly! It's so disturbing.
3 likesHas been is not had been. Casey has a drug problem with pot and alcohol and that’s a big problem. She’s an escapist which brings to question what is she escaping from which brings us back to her lying narcissist parents who threw their own daughter under the bus.
3 likesThat Casey knew all along her child was dead was never really in dispute during the trial. Her defense argued that Caylee died in a pool accident which got covered up. The prosecution argued that Caylee died in a murder that got covered up. So both sides were in total agreement that Casey was lying and covering something up. They disagreed only on what was being covered up.
3 likes@Pinecone111 Surely trying to cover up the accidental death of your child should be worth at least a few years in prison too?
4 likes@JimboRustles It wasn't a crime to not report the death of a child at the time this case happened. But Florida (and a few other states) passed a law making it a crime soon afterwards, not by coincidence.
3 likesHAS BEEN is present tense. HAD BEEN is past. She did not contradict herself. To be clear, I'm not defending her egregious actions, just clarifying the use of tenses.
0 likesHas been is present tense (confusing because been is past, but has is always present). However, was it worded "has been lucky" or "I'm glad she's had you" I'm sorry I ended up zoning out cause the whole thing is so hard to watch. I do recall seeing her parents visibly distraught after Caylee was brought up as if Casey had slipped up and used past tense and the mom caught that.
1 like@Jooniper Lynn Yeah, you are totally right about that. I just thought it was werid for some reason... but it's true, "has been" is still present tense. Hm... but still why then changed it to "is lucky"?? Idk maybe I'm looking too deep into this. xD
0 likes@Samanta Rizzi yeah. There's so much wrong in the whole case
0 likes@Jooniper Lynn Couldn't agree more!
1 like@JimboRustlesIf the prosecution didn't choose to roll the dice on the first degree murder charge. A lesser charge might well have lead to a guilty verdict.
0 likeswell you know if theres a hell shes got a first class reservation
1 likeGive a mother 5-10min she goes crazy if the kid is late at home
0 likesCasey is a monster. I can’t believe they found her not guilty. Absolutely unbelievable
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yeah, she got a second chance at life... something her daughter didn’t get to have.
19 likes@Jorel Decker you forgot the quotation marks there my man
2 likesSpoiler!!
0 likesIf she was a man she'd been in jail for a LOOONG time
20 likesI was on a jury. I believe it. People are bad at being on a jury.
7 likesIt's Florida, so...
4 likeslegal defense is pay to win in a lot of cases. I have an aunt who does legal work with a charity devoted to helping young girls that are victims of human trafficking when she can, often assisting in both prosecution of child traffickers and defense of trafficked kids; the ratio of cases she wins prosecuting pimps pro bono with a massive amount of irrefutable evidence vs the cases she wins defending teenage (or younger) clearly being victimized by pimps and family charged with related thefts, truancy, drug use and solicitation charges is unbelievably depressing...
2 likesxXAMighty StormXx or if she was black-
5 likeswe had a good run I guess. I’m happy to hear about your aunt but don’t let her ruin herself for it. That work is a killer.
0 likes@james reid yeah man it's rough on her. she poured everything in her into that work for a long time and it took a lot from her but have her a lot too. she took about 3 or 4 years in between taking the new york bar (which is the one that people take to be able to practice in any state due to difficullty) and worked full time giving counsel with them and doing any a lot of legal work outside the courtroom and those were the best years of her life at points and the worst at points. we are all proud of her. she put so much into it and even when as far as to legally adopted a 17 year old who was being trafficked by her step dad to avoid her (the 17 year old) kid getting taken from her after a trial surrounding her drug use didn't go to well and the state attempted to put the baby in the foster system and my aunt took care of them until she turned 18 and they are all thriving now from what I know. my aunt wasnt even 30 at the time but managed to win custody quick enough by getting the people involved sympathetic like the official case lawyer couldn't get the jury in my cousin's trial. wonderful woman, but I doubt she could have handle that work full time much longer, she's far too kind and sensitive to have to be dealing with the worst situations full time like that.
1 likewe had a good run I guess. Your aunt is a saint.
1 like@KiDD there is always one person that brings race into things.. You're a part of the problem in today's world.
0 likes@KiDD also you forget about OJ
0 likesThe jury system is bit weird though. The jury itself is fucking insane. Also her parents are weird.
0 likesah yes, the babysitter named Xanax
1 likeDuring this whole thing, she doesnt act like a mother who lost a child. She acts like a mother who rid herself of one.
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This is something that deeply infuriates me. Children aren't something to be gotten rid of. She's such a shitty person.
23 likesTo be fair, that’s a false dichotomy. There are more options than those two. She very well could be an evil and incredibly miserable person, who simply didn’t give a shit about her daughters accidental death.
6 likes@Wesley Thompson the duct tape would like to speak to you
17 likes@Agent Bubble
2 likesThey weren’t able to prove anything about the duct tape. Reading the case you’ll find that analysis showed that the duct tape was never applied to the skin, but simply present after her death in order to secure whatever bag her corpse was inside of.
@Wesley Thompson a ok
0 likesShe aint even a "mother"..
2 likesOh yes
0 likesI feel helpless and impotent after seeing this. Why would she ever be spared, period. She got away with filicide, that shouldn't ever be a true statement, ever. I am disgusted.
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"If the gloves do not fit, you cannot acquit!" Yeah it sucks that there are several cases like these where the victor should not be the victor.
36 likesThanks for introducing me to a new word I did not previously know.
12 likesThe issue was the jury didn't have the hindsight to decide this. And either the prosecutor dropped the ball or her lawyer was just that good.
34 likesSuch a sad outcome.
6 likesThe jury seemed to think that they couldn't convict her of 1st degree murder beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt (Even though the evidence was comically overwhelming), so they were honor bound not to convict her of anything at all. That's a really silly thing to think, Casey proved herself not deserving of that kind of hand-wringing sympathy and clinging to technicalities.
36 likesI'm felt helpless & disturbing.. the google search about suffocation.. the lies to her parents, investigator, even a small talk contains lies.. How can you trust someone if they can't even make a bit true in the beginning? Crazy world we living..
49 likesimpotent eh?
4 likesWell cause she was innocent
2 likesAttorney did his job
3 likes@Jordan Phan You messed up the phrase...
1 likeDid you see the video? She didn't
2 likes@Hammerest there was no tangible evidence tying her to the murder. You can't convict someone just because you don't like them
2 likes@Cam Baker FBI, this guy here.
1 like@draggy76 being a women or kid enlist more sympathy. Sad to see but true
2 likes@draggy76 Sexism. That's the word you're looking for.
3 likes@Hammerest yes... the jury was honor-bound and so was she. but she committed perjury by her story surely.
0 likesFlorida, baby
0 likesShe wants more kids too
0 likesreka10 her lawyer was excellent, i remember he defended aaron hernandez who was already in jail for one murder but he was on trial for the double murder of two men and people knew he killed those two bc the guy he killed that led to his arrest was the person who first found out, the lawyer was famous for defending people who very obviously did the crime and getting their sentence shortened or not even having a sentence, he’s somewhat of a celebrity lawyer now but yeah i don’t think the prosecuter dropped the ball as much as the lawyer was just super good
1 like@draggy76 if this was a man, deffo would have gotten 400 years with no parole and no sunlight for 200 years
1 likeThe justice system focuses on evidence, not truth. It's as simple as that. It's sad, but that's how it works.
0 likesWell, yeah. The only thing I can say is that the Juror did an interview with People.com 2 weeks ago and claimed that the decision made haunted him
1 likeHundreds of thousands of mothers kill their children in the womb every year and go unpunished. Why should this be any different?
0 likesAcc idk tbh
0 likesI said my comment talking about parents MURDERING their living, already developed, already thinking and with their own will and personality kids. No soul or mention of God was intended in my comment. It is fundamentally different to abortion because in that case it is carefully done when the embryo doesn't have enough development to have thoughts or feel pain. At this point your thoughts on religion, soul and what a human life actually is it's just an opinion and shouldn't be used as a mean to disrespect or attack others.
0 likes@Ifhes Kutai You are dehumanising unborn children to justify their murder. You ought to be ashamed.
0 likes@Andraca The Duck King lolol I meant to say powerless, but since english isn't my 1st language and in spanish we use the world "impotencia" interchangeably for both meanings, that why I use that. But welp, I am asexual, so being impotent isn't a big issue lololol
0 likes@draggy76 I don't share you position, but i agree she got away with all because she was an attractive young white woman.
0 likes@zelikris I understand, no evidence by it's own, but the collection of all the evidence was overwhelmingly clear. This is so clear if you consider the main defense strategy was to focus the attention on the most specific parts of the whole case.
0 likes@TruncateCar3 I am not, I am sorry. Also you are intentionally using the words "unborn children" and "murder" and not embryo because you want to make me feel like a bastard without feelings. But an abortion within the right time period is not legally a murder, those words are your opinion, not mine. Thus I am not dehumanising anything because that's not a human YET for me, and I am not justifying murder because that is not legally a murder.
0 likes@Ifhes Kutai It wasn't illegal in Germany to kill Jews either in the 1940s. I wonder what you would have done if you were born in that time.
0 likesif she didn't want her child anymore, she literally could have just left her with her parents. they seem to actually care for her, and would've been excellent parents. and seeing how big of a liar casey is and how gullible her parents were, she could've easily made up a lie as to why she didn't want to take care of her.
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Seeing as how casey ended up idk about them being excellent parents
99 likesalso if the sexual assault thing was true
20 likes@Kiran Sandhu if it was true she wouldn't of left them to babysit her daughter , she lied
28 likesSeriously??? They didnt see her for over a month, but they would have made excellent parents??? You obviously are not a grandparent.
1 likejuli Adams they didn’t see her because she ran away with the kid
27 likes@juli Adams they were begging her to let them see her but since Casey had already killed her she didn't let them see her
49 likesThey would be very bad parents just look what they raised
2 likesThe whole video revolves around analyzing her lies, but we never really found a conclusive reason why she would even do such a disgusting thing. Why would she kill her own child in the first place? Right? Who in their right mind would actually murder their own child? Even if you (pretending you're a parent) became very mad and your child did something very dislikeable, the most you would probably do is punish him/her maybe physical violence/abuse but not to the point of death. At most disowning your child, but why murder?
3 likesI am truly mindboggled, and it couldn't have been an accident as the body literally had duct tape on the mouth. The strong evidence suggests that she definitely murdered her on purpose.
@Knight Siegmund
1 likeYou said it yourself: nobody in their right mind would do it. There is your answer ;)
Although it would be interesting to known why she wasn't in her right mind, to find out why she did it.
@Knight Siegmund Given she lied her way through shit and seems to not really care, what if she did it because she wanted to? No other reason she just. wanted to kill a kid.
0 likesThat probably wouldn't work in a white family. Little Shaniqua can go stay at her grandmother's house, not Caylee.
0 likes@I her mom basically tried to confront Casey while she was doing drugs. i dont think she was in her right mimd to begin w bc almost anytime she was out, she was partying, drinking, sex, and drugs. she threw a whole child away bc she mightve thought that she was young an wanted to live her life as wild as she wanted.
1 likeIts very sad that Caylee was born to a woman that hasnt learned to grow up and take responsibility.
@Matěj Kopřiva Having a psycho for a kid isn't necessarily their fault. Some people are just fucked up regardless of how they're raised.
1 likeThey aren’t good parents they let their own kid to lie and get away with anything, and it led to tragedy. So yeah they ain’t good parents
0 likes@Matěj Kopřiva evil ppl are not always a product of their upbringing
0 likesProsecution really fucked up
0 likesAfter finding out she was acquitted, I am of the opinion that there need to be certain IQ requirements in order to be on a jury for cases like this
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@GoldFlitter nah you're getting emotional about the case, which is exactly what the jury is not supposed to do. Based on the facts and evidence presented, there's no certainty she did it
5 likes@GoldFlitter if you have an abundance of evidence please provide it to the police so she can go to jail, obviously there isn't. If there was she'd be in jail
3 likes@Arabella 5245 that doesn't prove she was murdered by her mother beyond a reasonable doubt. It fits how you want it to be, but the jury has to base their decision on the evidence
4 likesLol that's funny. The jurors were plenty smart enough. You have to give them something to work with. There should be certain IQ minimums for the prosecutor's office. They fucked that case up beyond any hope. The jury actually came to the proper verdict with the evidence provided. The truth is Casey and her attorney were the 2 smartest people in the room at all times.
12 likes@GoldFlitter don't argue with fools
11 likesyea, and one for being a cop, or driving a car, or owning a gun
1 likeNo you could say they had a higher IQ then you, you want to convict out of emotion instead of facts. Even if you thought the person was guilty it needs to be from the facts presented/allowed, not your emotions or 'rumors". Therefore their IQ was higher then yours,they stuck to the rules.... sorry but true.
1 likeThe prosecutors overcharged her. The jury could not convict of premediated murder based on the evidence. The prosecution gambled by overcharging in hopes of a plea deal and they lost.
8 likesI'm sick of the American jury system....
1 likeI prefer the French system of a 3 man professional jury.....
@Gary Schultz then wave the white flag and move to france
1 like@Tatyana Romanov
1 likecan you think in English ?
You don't sound like it...
Take a last word if you want
@Gary Schultz ?? lol do you realize how absurd your last comment was. You mention French then tell me to stick with English. Ya I'll take the last word for the win!!
0 likes@Tatyana Romanov you're completely missing the point. Yes, technically they did the proper thing according to the rules. But they just let a child murdering pathological liar go with a slap on the wrist. That's absolutely not ok, and that mean that our justice system has some serious flaws that should be improved.
6 likes@MCΔT I only answered the original post, I wasn't missing the point, you are adding in points. Their IQ wasn't low at all because they did the right thing despite the temptation to override the system and send her to jail. I think that takes a higher IQ.
0 likes@MCΔT no we are not talking a different kind of intelligence, the original post by "Storm" mentioned IQ. Change his post all you want but I was answering "storm".
0 likes@Tatyana Romanov you're an excellent example of someone I really wouldn't want as a juror. Being able to interpret what someone means to say instead of taking it completely literally and nitpicking little details to manipulate their argument is almost more important than fully understanding the laws in my opinion
6 likes@MCΔT ?? There were hundreds of posts on here, I put in my 2 cents on a post I didn't find correct in my opinion. You come along and change the post to whatever you wanted to argue about...Now veering way off the first guys post...We were talking IQ for the jurors!! I am the EXACT type you want as a juror, I look past what's "right" and what's "wrong" and go off the evidence provided regardless of my feelings!! You are ALL emotional and not in control, you would convict on hearsay and appearance you would be the WORST type of juror.
0 likes@Tatyana Romanov the only one getting emotional right now is you. My point is that yeah, he was talking about IQ but what his argument was predicated on is that the jurors made the wrong decision. You argued that that was incorrect and they did, and that decision shows that they actually do have a high IQ. Im arguing that IQ means nothing and agreeing with the original comment that they made the wrong decision, and the fact that they technically made the correct one reflects a problem in the justice system.
4 likes@MCΔT no actually you said IQ has nothing to do with it girl.
0 likes@MCΔT I'm done!!
0 likesO
0 likesHigh IQ means very little without being emotionally intelligent and highly attuned to others.
0 likesIt’s Florida, what do you expect 🙄
2 likesIQ and Emotional Q, as well
0 likes@GoldFlitter All circumstantial. No hard evidence proves the mother did it. That's the point. Yes, she obviously did it, but the jury did their job, which was to evaluate whether or not the prosecution proved BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that Casey murdered her child. If you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at the state attorneys for failing to get enough undeniable proof.
0 likes@Arabella 5245 All horrible, obviously she did it, but it still wasn't proved beyond a reasonable doubt in court. The jury, sadly, did their duty. Blame the state prosecution, they failed at presenting the evidence in a way that would make it clear and obvious with no doubt, because they thought they had an open and shut case. Doubtless, they were stunned at the verdict, as is evidenced by their body language at the end of the trial.
0 likesWow. Just. Wow. She is good.
0 likesBut did the glove fit?
1 likestarted with jennifers solution and have been binge watching this channel all week. send help
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Same
355 likesMe toooo and that was a long one.
302 likessame this is too hard
87 likesSame
37 likesOMG me too......
38 likesPlays in the background while I get ready for work !!! Ahhhhhh!!!!
90 likesSame
18 likesSame
14 likesSame here
13 likesOmg same 😳
12 likesMe too
8 likesSame 😂😂😂
9 likesSame😭
9 likesSAME!
8 likesme too omg
8 likesDamn how is that the one everyone starts with lmao
39 likesSame
1 likeSame but watched them all in one day working from home...
4 likesWhy are we all the same???
19 likes@mamaD theQT yeah but then he throws a visual at ya and you gotta try and go back and see what happened! Ahhh
10 likesAn hour long video for the overnight shift? Yes please
13 likesI duno how but me too!!
0 likesSame :)
0 likesMe too. I also started watching Jennifer's solution, cause it was recommend to me a week ago. Now I am hooked and love this channel. I hope for more videos like these
15 likesdude i watched jennifers solution today and realized this channel was v interesting so now im just binging em LMAO
15 likesI was watching donut operator and ended up here lol
5 likesno cus same
0 likesOmg me too — I feel seen!
4 likesYes, fr
1 likesammme
1 like@TheTrishalyn yesss
0 likesSame but I’m just starting.
2 likespaige how the hell did we all do the same exact thing lol
1 likesameee
1 likesame!
1 likeomg same!!!
1 likeSame
1 likeSame 🤣
1 likeGlad it's not just me
3 likesSAME I started in the same place!!
2 likesI started here and will watch Jennifer's solution next 🤤
4 likesYo- wait'll the crimes bleed into your dreams!
2 likesSame
1 likeME RN!
1 likeMe toooooo
1 likeSameeeee
1 likeSame boat. Good luck.
2 likesOh dear. This video just showed up in my suggestions and now I'm in the same boat as you!😳
4 likesSame
0 likesAHAHAHAH ME TOO
0 likesHonestly me too, none of us searched this up
2 likesIt occured to me too
1 likeSAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
1 likeSAME
1 likeI know right?
0 likesI also started with Jennifer's solution
3 likesLol.
0 likesmamaD theQT Every morning! :)
0 likesSame
0 likesSame!!! Addicted!!
0 likesJoin the club. I’ve been hooked for about a year now.
0 likesOmg im far not alone ahah
1 likeI also started with Jennifer, a week ago. Lol
2 likesSaaame
0 likessame same
0 likesomg same dude i can't stopppppp
0 likesI watched Jennifer’s solution last night and it scared me so bad but yet I’m back watching more videos 😭
3 likessame
0 likesYou’ll be like the rest of us...always waiting for a new one
0 likesThat's funny I know exactly what you're saying but this channel is so fascinating the psychological aspect how people act, react. I cannot believe she was found not guilty another OJ verdict. I tell you what's addicting going on websleuths, plunder, profiling evil those guys are awesome retired profilers detectives FBI agents check it out it's pretty cool.
0 likesomg me 2. what a coincidence.
1 likeSend so much help
0 likesSamee
0 likesSame lmao youtube's algorithm psychic or what? 😂
1 likeMe too!!
0 likeslmao same
0 likesSame. This is crazy how ive seen so many comments saying they are binging this channel after jennifer killing her parents
0 likesYeah, this basically legal crack in video form
0 likesSend us all help
0 likesWE ARE LITERALLY THE SAME PERSON
1 likepaige sameee
0 likesSame
0 likes😂 I feel you
0 likesME TOO!! LMAO
0 likesSame 😂
1 likeMaybe I need extra help. I have been binge watching for 1o hours straight. From Jennifers situation
0 likesMe too! It’s mental - if this was on Netflix it would beat Selling sunset hands down
2 likesShoot I need help myself now cause I'm going through the same thing. Send me help as well😂
0 likessame.
0 likesSamee
1 likeOmg meeeee toooooooo
0 likesMe too
1 likeSame
0 likesHey me 2. Did u read the comments on that. What's wrong with some people.
1 likePeople actually Defending Jennifer's actions & Saying the Detectives where being Overly aggressive and Deceitful & that You should never talk to the police & remain silent unless and demand a lawyer. Say that the interogation methods would make them admit to a crime they didn't commit. These people Need to Take their Meds or Turn themselves in.
2 likesSaaaaammeee
0 likesHahaha ikr!
0 likesSameeeee
1 likeYuppppppp
0 likesOH MY GOD ME 😂
1 likeTruth
1 likeYep, me too!
1 likeSame
1 likeOmg same
0 likesThe algorithm gods have been kind to us this time 👍
3 likesthe same here as im in holidays...
0 likesDido:)
0 likesSame!!
0 likesTruuu 🆘
0 likessame!
0 likesSAME
0 likesUnfortunately you will run out of videos 😩😩 I do the same thing over and over again but he rarely uploads :((
0 likesJoin the club!🤦♀️
1 likeLol same, this is so interesting...
0 likespaige me too I just can’t stop watching this channel...
0 likesomg same!!
0 likesI started with the legend of tony I think was his name. Then went to the kid who cut up the girl that lives next door. There’s some straight up spooky people that walk the earth! 😳
0 likesThis is the way
0 likesGlad I'm not alone. . .
0 likesOmg Same!
0 likesSamnmeee!
0 likesjust finished the jennifer video like a minute ago lmao
1 likeSame
0 likesWe need more
0 likessame
0 likesF*ck i’m about to do the same ... i can’t stop myself help
0 likesBetween this and audit the audit 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
0 likesSAME
0 likesme rn
0 likesI'm with you Paige as are others. The first step is asking for help. 🤯😳🙈
0 likesAll week? Those are rookie numbers gotta pump those up. I’m on day 2 and have watched a good 10 of them lol I got a problem I want a lawyer
1 likeSame
0 likesThat is not good to hear. I watched Jennifer's solution this morning, and this is the third one I'm watching already.
0 likesSAME!!! I need to stop or I'm going to have a nervous breakdown lmao
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesLooks like WE are going to need help. I started with Stephanie Lazarus' interrogation yesterday. Then I watched Jennifer's solution last night. This morning I woke up and played this. I think I have a problem. 😒
0 likesIt's getting worse, now I'm rewatching everything. Man, Jeff never gets old :D
0 likesSame
0 likesLiterally same
0 likesAlso known as option 3
0 likesSame
0 likesSame!
0 likesSame here
0 likesAren’t we all
1 likeyesss me too
0 likesomg same
0 likesSame!
0 likesSame. It's 2 am.
0 likesSame.. an watch it overnight and now im doin sunday morning sleep 😭😭
0 likesWe're all in this together
0 likesSame omg how could I have not seen this earlier lol
0 likessame bruh
0 likesSame!
0 likesLate
0 likesLol same here...
0 likesSaaaame
0 likesSame bro same.
0 likesMe too I'm addicted
0 likesSame!!
0 likesWait same!!
0 likesI started with Jeff
0 likesSame here! Lmao this is my third
0 likesOmg me too, I saw it very long time ago it was the first true crime I saw on YouTube and I’m obsessed since then!
0 likesIts so good the one about the guy who killed his own kids and wife was really good
0 likessameeee
0 likesTheres no help. They are defunding all the help. For everyone.
0 likesSame
0 likesShit I just finished Jennifer and I’m here for the second video. Plus side is I got a week to waste lol
0 likessame
0 likesomg same
0 likesSAMEEE
0 likesYou and I both paige
0 likesSame
1 likeX2
0 likesSame!... same smh
0 likesSame
0 likesSame
0 likessame.....im on a zoom rn
0 likesSAMEEEE LMAO
0 likesMe too omg
0 likesOperator: 911 what's your emergency?
1 likeI'm being held hostage by a YouTube channel
@Detached Laconian LMAOOOO wait you sure this aint a lie :))
0 likesI'll bring the popcorn!
0 likesJennifer's Solution is my first video I watched from this youtube channel- I might watch even more o-o
0 likesme too !
0 likesAhaaaaa same here Jennifer’s solution was the start to my addiction
0 likesSame
0 likesSAME OMG
0 likesnah don’t send help let’s stay in this rabbit hole
0 likesOMG SAME
0 likessame
0 likesIkr
0 likesIkr
0 likesLmaoo I’m happy I’m not the only one
0 likesSameee
0 likesSame
0 likesSame Same....I have been ordered to self-quarantine last 6 days ago and I was bored af and watching agt some horror shit and now i found this channel and can't even stop watching one after another....🔥
0 likesYep, better than anything on Netflix.
0 likesOkay same I'm not the only one
0 likesI started watching with the Dalia Dippolito (however you spell it) case, and ever since I’ve been binge watching 😂
0 likessame!!!!!!!!!
0 likesMe toooo
0 likesMe too and I have an exam on two days I havnt studied for BECAUSE I have watched these videos ✌️😁
0 likesi feen for content...
0 likesHahah sams
0 likesHelp! I've been kidnapped!!! Mentally! By criminals
0 likesSame, the Jennifer situation was fucked
0 likesSame, it just popped up as a recommendation. Help.
0 likesHahahaah omg
0 likessame
0 likesSame lol
0 likesDamn! Help!!!!!
0 likesOml same
0 likesMe too it was long and I went through the whole video same for this one
0 likesOh man YouTube is playing with us using our human nature to see them
0 likesSame LMAO
0 likesliterally same😫🤣
0 likesWelcome i showed up two months ago
0 likesSame
0 likesLMAO SAMEE
0 likesSAMEEEE
0 likessame
0 likes5.5 k people agrees
0 likesSame.
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0 likesomg yeaaa exactly the same
0 likessame
0 likesSAMEEEEE
0 likesSaaaame
0 likesSAME THEY'RE SO GOOD
0 likesRelatable 😅
0 likespaige same here. That Jeniffer got me sucked in 😬🙈😅
1 likeStill watching?
0 likesSame sis we all started in that Jennifer's solution part
0 likesSame.. Can't stop
0 likesSame
0 likesMe too omg 😂
0 likesSame happened to me. But i finished watching all videos in this channel😢😢😢 is there any other channels with videos like this?
0 likesSame here, it's addictive
0 likesStarted with “the legend of Jeff” Then Jennifer’s solution now here....I too can see a channel bender....I don’t want help!!!!
0 likesMe too omg
0 likesme too
0 likessame it has actually made me want to be in the social science industry
0 likesmy dad owns a mercedes and he love's that baby
2 likesWtf?? Same
0 likesSame
0 likesSame here
0 likesI'll call Zenaida
0 likesSame
0 likesSame. Help.
0 likesSame
0 likesYes same order here 😭
0 likesMe too !!!
0 likesDuudde we are the same on that note
0 likesSame!
0 likesThere are worse ways to go....
0 likesOmg sameeee
0 likesSame... I'm getting addicted to this channel 😳
0 likesme too ahhh
0 likesThis channel is one big rabbit hole
0 likesDude- SAAAAME!!!!! I came across the Jennifer case and haven’t left sense 😂
1 likesame
0 likesSAME!!!!
0 likesSameeeeee
0 likesThis resonates so much 😅
0 likeslol same
0 likesIt was meant to be. I have given in as well. Let Chaos Consume You!
0 likesSame lol..crazy how youtube algorithm works
0 likesIt started with Guilty Until Proven Innocent for me
0 likesSame hahahahaha
0 likesI THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE ME NEXT dhfjfnfj
0 likesMe too.🙋🏽♀️🤦🏾♀️
0 likesI just started the same roller coaster !
0 likesShana BattleGlitta yes, OMG! I’ve been having nightmares 🤦🏾♀️
0 likessame :/
0 likesSame i def need help too lol
0 likesOMG SAME 😭😭😭😭
1 likeMe too!
1 likeSame lol.
1 likeOMG same here lol.
1 likeMe too!
0 likesSame !
0 likesSame!!
0 likesBro same omgf💀💀
0 likesshes my last now. and I enjoyed every single one of it
0 likesAnd... wheres the help?
I can relate 😂
0 likesdoes anyone feel the detective's were too flirtatious with her around 35-40 mins
0 likes@Jazmin Valtierra not really
0 likessame with me lol
0 likesomfg.. me too!! haha
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likessame.... help me...
0 likesare we all living the same life bc so am i
0 likessame omg
0 likessame
0 likesIt's one month later and this is also happening to me HELP HAHAHA
0 likesListening to these while I solder.
0 likesKizzume's voice is real smooth.
Same
0 likesSame here 😩🤦
0 likesSame
0 likesLmfao wtf same!
0 likesSame here
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0 likesOh my lord same
0 likesSame
0 likesMe too haha
0 likesSorry cant help my journey is just begining lol I cant help myself cold case mystery stories are my downfall now i found this channel I'll be stuck here with you! Who wants the popcorn lol..
0 likes@YesbutNO bet he still feels stupid
0 likes@♡ Cameo ♡ I
0 likesomg I started with the one too and it spiraled from there
0 likesbad idea. i am getting out NOW!! hope you are out of the darkness!
0 likesThese cases are interesting and Educational!
0 likesStarting here now but Jennifer is up next!! I love to listen at work🙃🙂
0 likesLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL me toooo!!!
0 likesHahaha fuggn saaaame we should have a watch party :)
1 like@Cody Allen ikR
0 likes@MultifanTrashcan riiight
0 likes@Caitlin Cook how is that?
0 likes@WhiteCourtain hahahaaaa
0 likes@Ninth Reign your the only one that did it in reverse...?
0 likesSAME
0 likesSame! I'm starting to understand why women are obsessed with these documentaries
0 likesSame!
0 likesSame
0 likesSame here...🙈
0 likesHelp on way, but don"t hold your breath until they there.
0 likesP S.
Just been told it's the Key Stone Cops so you'll be fine.
Exact same, Started with jennifers solution too this channel’s just too good
0 likesSame !!!
0 likesYep, Jennifer gets us hooked, now where chasing a ghost 😂😂
0 likesSame. I'm hooked
0 likesSame
1 likeI've done exactly the same thing
0 likesYes same
1 likeSaammee
0 likesAll 10k of us are living the same life !
1 likeJa sameee
0 likesyeah same
0 likesCan't.... too late... for meh to. body has cramped in one position... Can't look away... halp meh please...
0 likesSameee
0 likesomg yes im watching that next!!
0 likesLegend has it that paige finished all JCS-CP videos and has started re-watching from the beginning... ;
0 likeslol i just did that
0 likesheh. i arrived too late !
0 likesSAME!! Lmao I started with the piece of shit UFC fighter one and we are now here watching ALLLL of them lol
0 likesSame🥴
0 likesHa ha same
0 likesSame!! Earlier today that one from Jennifer and now here... I think the channel doesn’t have many videos 🤔 will take a better look at it
0 likesOmg same!!
0 likesOnly the real ones started with "The Bizzare case of Stephen McDaniel"
1 likewhich are some of the best episodes that I shouldn't miss? anyone got a few titles?
0 likeswell I actually sound sadistic to use to word 'best' when it comes to crime.
Oh no. I just watched Jennifer's solution and then went on to this video...
0 likesomg I just watched that and came here... Welp I guess that how it begins
1 like... on my way to crazy ville...
0 likes@MultifanTrashcan... human psychology is intriguing to us? 🤔💭.... to uncover and comprehend the motivations of their individual motives...
0 likesYESSSS. AHHHHH
0 likesSame here
0 likesWell, I don't binge it (only so much harrowing shit I can absorb) but yeah, excellent channel and frankly, better than most stuff on Netflix.
1 likeThat Russel Williams one though....
That's where I started too...
0 likesYO ME TOO‼️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 likeYou think that is bad? I started three months ago. Binge watched every video on YouTube and then decided to donate on Patreon and now binge watch between YouTube and Patreon. This is my third time watching this video.
0 likesSame thing happening to me now....Help !hahaa
0 likesSame here lol
0 likesONE. OF. US.
0 likesYoull run out eventually, trust me
0 likesSame
0 likesThat’s how it begins
0 likesHa! I’m falling down that same rabbit hole now...
1 likeI’m here after learning about narcissists and psychopaths from HG Tudor channel, I recommend that, some things that seem erratic and unexplainable make sense after you learn from him.
0 likesLiterally same
0 likesSameee
0 likesme rn
0 likesThere is no help for you. We are all stuck here
1 likeSAME VUEJOGTU
0 likesMe too!
0 likesSaaaame
0 likesLol same here 😂 have started with Jennifer’s solution
0 likesrelatable :'D
0 likesliterally same
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0 likeslmaoo fr tho
0 likesYO SAME LMFAO
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0 likesOmg SAME
0 likesSAME!!!
0 likesFucking same man
0 likesYou should study some criminal psychology! Even if just as a hobby.
0 likesHe drives a Mercedes and he loves that baby.
1 likeDitto!
0 likesI'm doing that right now lol
0 likesSAMEE
1 like@5ea3ed 😂😂
0 likesLooks like we’re all in the same boat 🚣♂️
0 likesWould you believe if i said the same too. 🤦🏼♀️
0 likesSame
0 likesSame here ❤️
0 likesHahahaha same here
0 likesOmg same !!
0 likesI can’t help you. I’m in the same place as you.
0 likesLMAOOOOO Sameeeee
0 likesMe too 😳
0 likesSame
0 likesHAHAHAHAHAHA same
0 likesSame, someone please send help lml
0 likesMe too lol
0 likesJust finished Jennifer’s solution and now I’m onto this one lol
0 likesSame here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesOmg same
0 likesHIGH FIVE BUD !!!! 🤣🤣
0 likesI started with Christy Mack, don't know how that was in my recommendations...
0 likesSame here
0 likesSaaameee!
0 likesyesssss omg same
0 likesSame here!
0 likesSame
0 likesSame!!!!!!!
0 likessame...
0 likessame
0 likesme tooooo
0 likesPaige i share your pain and i am powerless to help even myself.
0 likesEXACTLY OMG I NEED TO LIVE
0 likesBruh same
0 likesMoodd same over here
0 likesSAME
0 likesme too 😭
1 likeSame hahahahah
1 likeMakes you wonder do you know who you REALLY are (yes) only until life tests you...
1 like@paige I'll try let's just hope its not 31 days to late
0 likesYea, same here buddy. And I hv my final exams next week 🤦♀️
0 likesLol same
0 likesSame I just finished this and it’s already around 6AM here 😭
0 likessame here!!
0 likesJust trying not to think about Covid.
0 likesMe too hhahaha
0 likesFuckin same🤣😭😭😭😭
0 likesMe toooooo! Can’t get enough!!
0 likesSame
0 likesThis is addicting.
0 likessamee right here
0 likessame
0 likesMe too! Jennifer’s solution was a so good I had to keep watching!
0 likessameee
0 likesOmggg sameee
0 likesSAME
0 likesSame!
0 likesLITERALLY ME RN
0 likesMe too
0 likesThe worst part is when you finish the like, 7 videos, and realize this guy uploads p incosistently, and has a good patreon strangle-hold.
0 likesJennier Pan??
0 likesSAME HAHAHAHAH
0 likesWTF SAME
0 likesOmg same
0 likesSame.
0 likesI’m the opposite of everyone, I haven’t watched Jennifer yet but I’m watching that one next! I think I started here on the Stephanie Lazarus and it’s been a bender of these videos since then. I’m excited to watch the Jennifer one because everyone has hyped it up so much
0 likessame🤣
0 likesSame
0 likesI’m also in a loop
0 likessame tho I love this true crime shit
0 likesI started with the wrath of Jodi and now I’m hooked
0 likesSame
0 likesLol same
0 likessame, jennifers solution got me here too. god damit youtube algorithm!
0 likesNope. You sit here. Watch all series with me together. Lol. Just kidding.
0 likesLol i started with Chris Watts and then moved on to Jennifer and Jodi and now here i am . 😂
0 likesYeah, Jennifer Pan 3rd option, I literally binge after that one
0 likesSame!
0 likesYep I saw it like 4 time finally gave it a watch! Glad I did.
0 likesMe too can’t stop
0 likesLol 🤣
0 likesSame
0 likesThis channel has some great content
0 likesSAME
0 likesSomebody report the authorities... you are gonna get a new video soon JCS
0 likesThere are many of us in the same boat. Whatever you do, don’t start watching That Chapter or your situation will become twice as bad.
0 likessame
0 likesme tooo!!
0 likesOMG!!!! Maybe the defense has something to do with YT’s algorithm!! I’ve been binge watching since Jennifer’s solution tooooo!!!
0 likesCause ME TOOOOOO
0 likesI watched that one before this too
0 likesSame
0 likesJesus! spot on
0 likesReminiscent of Ted Bundy? never-ending positive temperament
0 likesHow do you drown in a swimming pool but your skeletal remains are discovered with duct tape over your nose and mouth in a swamp?!? Seriously Florida?! The whole state should be ashamed of this!
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They voted for trump man!
432 likesThey def dropped the ball on this one. When they interviewed a juror he said the only reason they couldn't convict her was not knowing cause of death to fully rule out accident. It's just crazy to me. I've see trials they didn't know cause of death bc the body sat so long undiscovered and they still got a guilty verdict. It's so sad this baby got no closure. And to think she's just living her life like normal and Is a private investigator now?!?!
390 likesThe WHOLE STATE SHOULD BE THROWN AWAY!!!!
189 likesFlorida has no shame
107 likes@green scene The Trump voters obviously weren't on the jury or she'd be gone by now
171 likesIt is completely bizzare. My guess is, this is an example of why death penalty, even in such horrific cases, is not a good idea. Besides being irreversible in case of mistakes, it can dimminish the reporting rate, influence a jury, the witnesses etc. in the sence of haveng a burden of responsibility for someones life. Guilty or not.
92 likes@green scene Oh shut up. This was way before Trump. This happened in 2008. Obama era...oh yeah, like that was even better. 🙄🤦♀️
187 likesthe fact that she is still walking around without any injuries just proves that all of florida is wimp
78 likes@Maria Grace I believe Obama won Florida that year...
50 likes@dadada This is absolutely true. There could also be jurors who don't believe in the death penalty at all in which case their verdict would certainly be not guilty regardless. But just in general most people would be far more hesitant in killing someone unless they can be absolutely certain they are guilty.
15 likesNot the most educated folks... but also, the lawyer knew his audience and was good at manipulating them.
45 likesThat fucking jury should be all ashamed of themselves. I hope Caylee haunts their dreams for the rest of their lives.
88 likes@dadada Irreversible? Death penalty cases do have rights of appeal like any other case....
17 likesAt least Florida made a law making it a Felony to not report a missing child within 24 hours.
63 likesThe whole state of Florida should be ashamed of the whole state of Florida.
8 likesI think they are ashamed, and no double jeopardy. Hate to say it cuz she belongs in jail, but her lawyer did exactly what he was supposed to do. Create just a little bit of doubt and the jurors fell for it.
15 likes@Maria Grace Somebody just got triggered like Billy the Kid
2 likes@Michael Vukovic Yep. I don't think anybody should be pointing the finger at the Defence Lawyer. I thought he did a fantastic job from a legal perspective, but she is as guilty as sin. No doubt in my mind over that.
20 likes@green scene we got a bunch of old people.
2 likesThe jury didn't know all of this tho.
2 likes@Velcro and ultimately, the defense lawyer was just doing their job. If he didn't, someone else would have, anyway. Truthfully, it's as much of a tragedy as the OJ Simpson trial, where the jurors somehow get blinded by a single piece of almost inconsequential information and then proceed to acquit the very obviously guilty defendant. At least with Simpson they had the excuse that he was a public figure, I have no idea what could have coloured their opinions on this time.
8 likes@Yella Franillax I don't doubt it Paul. I think the OP is making a bit of a leap to blame all of Florida just because of one failed case. Love from Ireland!
7 likes@The Antagonist The Jury weren't informed about the duct tape?
2 likes@green scene
16 likesMy God everything is about orange man with you people.
@green scene better than voting for hellary
7 likesWhat I'm more amazed is how she still got away with not guilty after they said she died in the family pool, if that was true, why not just immediately call help? She's still guilty even if she didn't kill her on purpose, she hid evidence/information, only a guilty person does that... This is ridiculous.. and I can't believe that there are ppl like her lawyer that feel ok to free a guilty person, I hope one day he feels the other edge of the sword and what it really feels like to not have justice
19 likes@Fed Up Southern Girl Do you know how many old cases have been prooven to be wrong after the fact in the whole of the USA since DNA was introduced and became more sophisticated? Hundreds of proovenly wrongfully convicted and executed. Not saying this is the case here ...
3 likesThese Florida comments crack me up. Ah, the ignorance. Look up whats referred to as the Sunshine or Public Records law in Florida and get back to me.
7 likesThere’s your reason why the state is always in the news.
The records are released almost instantaneously to the public, so a fresh story is a lot easier to sell. If you don’t see that, you’re missing the point.
Yes, the jury was informed of the duct tape. Experts on both sides spoke on it and it didn't proove murder in the end.
2 likes" he tripped over his own gun and emptied a clip into himself on the way down"
5 likes@green scene lol wtf
2 likesAs a former Floridian , I DO NOT LIKE THIS WOMAN 😂🤦🏻♀️ I think she is guilty as hell and she should be in jail
10 likesJohn Jones riddle me this, where do you live?
0 likesIkr. If your child drowns wouldn't you take them to a hospital? Hope that perhaps the doctors can do SOMETHING? No normal mum would slap on duct tape and dump the body.
10 likesShe has a great lawyer
2 likesYou can say that again. It makes no sense. They done fucked up
1 likeClashin Kara so what’s your point?
0 likesDo you really have to blame Trump for everything? The Prosecution was not thorough enough. If they had even a shred of evidence linking her to the crime scene, the defense's argument would've fallen apart. They took this to court too soon thinking they could win this with facts alone. If they spent just a little bit more time to find something linking her to the burial site, this wouldn't have happened.
11 likes@Feels Man they did though
1 like@Ashwin Kp The only rational comment in this thread.
3 likes@ForktaildevilP38J
0 likesThe jury is often not allow to have all of the evidence due to legal dealings between the prosecutor, the defense, and the judge. It’s a sick game they play in jury trials.
@green scene Orange man bad!
2 likes@Maria Grace what was song wrong with Obama? Let's argue
1 likeMz c right, in yours it’s worse.
0 likesCOVID-19 TDS
1 likeEd 👍🏻
0 likesLook I hate this outcome as much as anyone else, but this is actually the justice system working. Someone or some members of the jury felt like the case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt and so they didn't convict. That's how it's supposed to go.
2 likesCan't let the water run out
0 likes@B Lane you mean Cali
0 likes@Henry Bokstad I just won edgelord bingo with this one
0 likes@green scene Buckle up buttercup because Trump is about to win again in November.
6 likesThat's exactly how I felt when this went down
0 likes@To The Point ok boomer
0 likes@NillyC (lets say Caylee did die in a pool, even though there's no proof). If she really thought that throwing her drowned child's body in a swamp, and then partying for a month or so later was a normal thing to do, then I think your comment was giving her a little too much credit.
1 like@John Jones No it did not. Watch it again.
0 likesB'cos FLORIDA
0 likesFlorida has a lot to be ashamed of
0 likesBelieve me, as someone who lived in FL throughout this entire thing, I can assure you were were all upset and shocked. The jurors were lazy and received death threats after admitting they just wanted to go home. MEANWHILE people ALL OVER THE COUNTRY SENT. HER. MONEY. So, no, not just FL should be ashamed. I don’t know a single Floridian that thinks Casey should’ve walked.
3 likes@Andreia G. The defense said George told her not to call the police and that he would handle it. There was a quote they brought up that was his reaction after he found out. That was the reasonable doubt since there was no DNA. Seriously so many people here did not see the trial.
0 likes@Ane Calvo But it wasn't. They were never able to prove the tape was attached to the skull.
0 likes@jjjonse Correct. They had that doctor come in and dispute it for at least a day. The defense claimed it came from the dump site and the area was under water for awhile.
0 likes@John Jones That's not what happened. Before calling others stupid, actually look up this case and don't just go by this video. This was a long trial.
0 likesJohn Jones dont say that if u dont live in Florida. For one as someone who actually grew up there, its amazing and beautiful, and like every state, has its bad apples, however by law our bad apples are transparently displayed to the media
0 likes@Erick Mark and really stupid jurors. Sorry, but that Lawyer wouldn't have swayed me.
0 likes@Fed Up Southern Girl Not if you are found "Not Guilty". Double Jeopardy ensures you cannot be tried twice for the same crime. And since she was found not-guilty on all counts, she pretty much got a free ticket. (appeals can occur when you are found guilty, retrials can occur when you have a hung-jury. But a Not Guilty verdict is like a Willy Wonka Golden Ticket.
1 likeman I'm staying away from Florida, if they can't get this right, they must mess up on everything
2 likesunknown unknown Not enough evidence? I hope you don’t have kids.
1 likeMaria Grace well yeah considering how shitty things are now with everything on fire and America leading numbers in a pandemic.... the Obama era was way better🤷
1 likeTrump won that state, winning winning winning
0 likes@Andreia G. I'm not a lawyer nor American but I think it has smth to do with the murder degree they accused her of.
0 likesIm 2 hours away from Orlando, I was very disappointed in the Florida's justice system.
0 likesAllowing this monster go free.
Don’t forget Jeffery
0 likesExactly it wasn’t an accident she didn’t want that child
0 likestl;dr the swamp is their swimming pool because it's florida
0 likesdadada It’s also ridiculously expensive to try capital cases and house death row prisoners.
0 likes“In California, the death penalty has cost more than $4 billion since 1978. That includes the costs of trials, appeals, and incarceration on death row. In 2019, the California governor issued a moratorium on the death penalty.
In Florida, enforcing the death penalty costs $51 million a year more than it would have to give all first-degree murderers life in prison without parole.
In North Carolina, death penalty cases cost $2.16 million per execution more than sentencing murderers to life imprisonment.”
You know what they say:
0 likesWhen someone dies in a beach, it's drowning.
"But they had 5 bullet holes across it's body". "Are you a morgue specialist of some kind? Let the professionals decide the cause of death"
@Feels Man thank you!
0 likesJessica Falconer wow they thought it was an accident she ended up with duck tape over her mouth and found in the swamp. I don’t get it. That says it wasn’t an accident right?
0 likesMaria Grace I hear ya, but I think they meant they’re the same ppl who voted for him.
0 likesFlorida is like this bizarro land inbreed crooked broken mirrors reflection version of California in so many ways. A very odd strange and ugly place inside...
0 likesThe Twilight Zone
@green scene TRUMP all the way. WOOOHOOOO!!
3 likes@Feels Man in your feels man? what about that fact makes you feel so insecure?
0 likes@S. P. find it very unlikely a jury comprised of 12 people that represent the community doesn't include one individual who represents the majority
0 likes@Maria Grace the comment referred to your collective intelligence. Voted for Trump, "Florida Man" headlines, etc. Has nothing to do with who was president when it happened.
0 likesJerry Kingsley what are u talking about?
0 likes@Jerry Kingsley I don't know Jerry, what does make me "insecure" 😹
0 likesObama wasn't sworn in until January 21, 2009
0 likesTrump 2020 baby all day!!!
0 likesdefinitely I've over charged her. they didn't prove she was murdered let alone premeditated
0 likesMaybe the baby resurrected after she drowned and then they suffocated the zombie baby with duct tape.
0 likesAnything can happen in Zimmerman's state!
0 likesI will never understand this system of the jury you've got in USA. Here in Italy we've got a single judge who decides everything. If we had a jury made of common people I guess most of mafia bosses thanks to the skills of their lawyers would be out free after having murdered hundreds of people
0 likes@MediterraneanBlood Well, being judged by your peers isn't a bad idea/system when the jury ain't packed full of people as idiot as the accused.
0 likesJessica Falconer Where is Dexter when we need him😳 She fits the code!
1 like@Andreia G. died in pool,maybe it is an accident.then maybe she panic, stupid,lazy, forgetful, selfish or having a a short 30 day amnesia.the vehicle belong to her.but anyone can staged the incident on their own backyard..so in the end,must prove it beyond doubt.absolutely no doubt 5000%!.Life is test.On the day of resurrection,God will give Judgement
0 likes@Jessica Falconer Wait, what? She managed to hold a job? And that too as a private investigator?
0 likesPretty sure Florida has no shame.
0 likesgreen scene negative 😂😂😂
0 likesme, a Floridian who finds her guilty on all charges 👁️👄👁️
0 likes@Mz C oh, my dear, you must educate yourself on the "justice" in other countries and societies...you have no idea the horrors, but even in other parts of the Western world murderers and criminals get off easily -- this is a case, not a country.
0 likesWe are
0 likesMoney Talks
0 likesI lost my child for 5 min. and ran, desperate and deadly, imagining horrible things, a living hell, until I found her. Casey is sick.
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My parents lost my brother at a baseball game by accident because they thought the other was taking him home. They freaked out and rushed to the field. He wasn't there. They rush home and are about to call the police (This was in 2002) when they realise the coach took him home. They were so relieved. That was a maximum of 30 minutes. Casey lost her daughter for 30 days and never got scared. She deserves to rot in hell
21 likesI lost my son for about 2 min while at a science discovery center when he was 5. The second I noticed he was missing the room began to get dark and spin, all the while a million horrible things ran thru my head and i began freaking out and yelling out his name. He was literally behind a sign about 2 feet in front of me. That was the worst kind of panic and anxiety I have ever felt and thank goodness my son was just out of sight 🙏🏼 Casey has no fkn soul. Her poor parents 😞
19 likesl cried and ran around jn the snow when my cat ran unusually late one winter night....when he finally ran towards me he stopped and looked at me like : "What the hell ? You good? You look crazy human...!" He has never seen me so hysterical...
7 likes(We had lost a cat before that just disappeared like thin air...and would have never left just for fun. He never went further than a few houses and the field in between them...)
We went to a water park, part of a large amusement park, and my much older friend was watching my daughter while I changed into my swimsuit. In those 5 minutes the dumb b lost my kid, who had never been lost. I FREAKED out. Like completely lost it. She went on a giant slide, by herself, at 3 years old because she’s always been fearless like that.
7 likesThe security did a great job shutting the shit down until she was found. A lady saw her and brought her to me bc by this time she had been gone like 20 minutes and everyone was looking for her. The entire time I was inconsolable, wanted to kick the lady’s ass I was with and then so freaking relieved. Idk if I’ve ever felt relief like that again. Never talked to that friend ever again, either.
I panic if I can’t hear my daughter in the other room knowing that she’s too young to be able to go outside on her own yet and knowing I’d hear anyone enter the apartment so kidnapping isn’t logical.
0 likesI’ll jump up out of my seat “the second” my grand child is away from my sight
0 likesExactly.. I remember that feeling of total panic when you cant find your child even for a few minutes....
1 like@Lilian McGuian,
1 likeThat's what normal parents and people will do. What is even more disturbing is that she refers to her daughter in the present tense. Hardened professional criminals are unable to do that for as long as she did.
I lose my child in a shop for 1 second and I panic! My heart sinks. My stomach is in knots. I have a lump in my throat. How a woman can go 31 days without having an absolutely meltdown is beyond me.
2 likesit is truly disgusting that she got away with this
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Did she? Lmao. Just passed the moment when the narrator speaks how she has always got away with everything when she was younger. I have no idea how she could get away with this though.
8 likesTheBarthL you don’t remember this ???
2 likesBenjamin Francis I'm from Poland
8 likesIt's cute to see someone thinks everyone lives in the united states
44 likesCuz she’s a woman.
1 like@Misaaami Or ya know, the incident lterallly took place in the USA, his video was made/uploaded by a citizen and TheBarthL's question was posed in fluent English (more fluent than your own), not Polish. Soooo, yeah. Super. Cute.
9 likes@Matthew Robertson In the age of the internet, you can watch anyone's content and take an interest in any incidents, regardless of said person's nationality or the place said incident took place. Also, almost everyone you can encounter on YouTube speaks english to a degree.
10 likes(I am not one for this type of "apply cold water to the burned area" communication bollocks, but you started this and I am not against the fun of it.)
Sooooo yeah... Still. Super. Cute.
@Libor Zvědělík My comment implied that it's not out of the question for one to assume that TheBarthL is from the USA. Nothing more. Pretty simple stuff.
3 likesThanks for the long-winded reply.
Salt mine
5 likesGet your picks ready
She's is a white woman 🤷♂️
2 likesMatthew Robertson so he should write in polish? 😀 Wake up. English is an international language and youtube is not for americans only, as people might think cause you know, murica is the center of the world
5 likes@Misaaami this was a famous case world wide.
3 likes@Alyssa Helmers lmao. Sure
0 likesAlyssa Helmers, I must admit I have never heard of this case before, I’m from the u.k.
4 likesIt's crazy, right? Especially when you consider how many people are wrongly convicted.
2 likes@Misaaami youtube = american, pretty much everything u do revovles around america so bow down
1 likeRIP Caylee you sweet angel
1 likeJennifer D I’m Aussie and heard this story on news channels, was definitely covered on abc and I believe SBS. Pretty sure it had segments on the mainstream news channels as well.
0 likes@Spoz A white woman who isn't ugly to the average American and has middle class to rich white parents.
0 likes@Shelm Mii Nothing to do with race, OJ simpson was black he still got let off an obvious murder
0 likes@Shelm Mii Infact black more likely to be found not guilty, because they're worried of being seen as racist.
0 likesTheBarthL excuse me for assuming your nationality lol
0 likesGeka Maretta wow you got triggered because i assumed someone was from my country. take a deep breath it’s going to be okay ❤️
0 likesSome of what I see on these replies is pure ridiculousness, and I might add that as an American while I have absolutely heard the name “Casey Anthony” in the past I never knew the story behind this person, and I’ve never found any reason to look into it until lovely JCS came along and piqued my interest on the psychology of criminals. so zip up those pants and let’s put away the tape measures
0 likesBizatchtheking all because i asked someone if they remembered this happening haha
0 likesShe caught herself saying "caylee HAD the best grandparents" so she had to say "and still HAS" ... And she's celebrating over eating cole slaw as if this is all a big celebration of herself! She's so gross
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You caught that too? I caught that years ago.
7 likesYeah, and her mother put her hand to her mouth in a crying motion out of nowhere at that moment. I wondered if it was because she noticed it too.
4 likesI thought the same thing and I know she is guilty but if you listen closely she actually says "Caylee's had the best grandparents" which also means "Caylee has had" which doesn't catch her showing she knows Caylee is dead. It's subtle but i think it's important...She's definitely guilty as hell though.
2 likesvery good lawyer
0 likesShe's the quintessential spoiled child. This is a person who has never in their life dealt with consequences, and is entitled to the point of psychosis. Lol at getting snappy and rude with her family on that phone call. She murdered that child. But she had a legal team that made OJ's team look like public defenders.
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I think going through a bunch of consequences actually builds up the ability to deceive probably she picked this up during hs
9 likes@Meinhart Vallar exactly, she literally wrote down the decision to kill her. The freaking browser history dude.
17 likesThe irony, at the end , is the fact that her father/parents let her walk out free. He took the blame for his child , even though he knows. He said in an interview he's out of her life and "he just can't trust her" .
How do you get a legal team like that?
1 likei mean, being spoilt is bad but the quintessential spoiled child? As if all spoilt people go around murdering their own children...
6 likes@xyzxyzxyzxyzxyz money
1 likeI might be biased because of my ethnic background, but I believe that if she were a black man....oh boy...
2 likes@Ancor3 wouldve been a death sentence after the first 20 minutes
2 likesExactly. And now she is living a glamorous life, laughing, partying, and getting snappy with anyone she likes. She won, she proved that she is entitled. That's killing me.
1 likeThe way this woman speaks to her parents makes me sad. They’ve clearly spoiled her and cushioned her from a lot, but it’s clear they love her and, as someone who used to have the worst relationship with my parents as a teen, it’s astounding that a grown ass woman accused of murdering her child can be so ignorant
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@Brian Haygood wait.. was this proven or at least seemed to be true? did I miss something?
7 likes@Kent Marquez no it wasnt proven lol. Girls a liar as usual
24 likestoo much love can also be abusive
4 likes@Kent Marquez Nothing in this case was proven.
1 like@Brian Haygood Sexual abusers have no conscience and no shame and don't feel guilt or remorse. They are all sociopaths and feel entitled to exploit anyone they like. That is not Casey's dad and I don't believe he ever sexually abused her. She had told so many lies and made up so many stories to cover up what she did, and she never told a soul she had been abused until she was called to account for the murder of her child.
23 likes@Mike Honcho The way we grow up is our parents fault. If we stay that way it's our own.
5 likes@Kent Marquez No, it's more of Caseys lies.
1 like@Juanita Richards after you become adult
4 likesyour actions your responsibility
no matter how fucked up your growing environment was
you cant blame parents for your current conscious actions nor your past
she was normal functioning person
@x 12 Which is what I just said via a famous saying by an anonymous author who I quoted.
2 likeslol Oh well, @Brian Haygood. She shouldn't have cried wolf her entire existence.
0 likesJust imagine how she spoke to that little girl?
0 likesNow imagine how bad it got in private.
@SponzifyMee It ceases to be love at that point… and becomes pure indulgence.
0 likes@x 12 as usual, it depends, you can't just put a label on everything looking though the prism of "your actions are your responsibility" or "your actions are your parents responsibility" or "it depends on the age". no, it really doesn't work that way, each situation has its own causes and consequences and if you don't have time or desire to consider every detail then just don't bother trying and you'll be better off acting the way smarter people tell you to otherwise you'll end up causing more harm than good. this woman is obviously not a normally functioning person, she doesn't understand simple concepts and is only concerned about herself, not even about what others will think of herself, she just doesn't give a shit about anything except her own well-being which is completely fucked up and not okay and this is a result of poor parenting. simple example: she was always lying and doing dumb shit and always got away with it because her parents loved her to the point of truth denial and this obviously continued for her whole life so she developed a very harmful concept of not caught = not guilty which led to her becoming a pathological liar. you don't just fix that, it's deep inside of her brain on a physical level, it's like trying to make a nymphomaniac become monogamous, you will just end up with an endless (and most likely a very short one) loop of relapse and remission. and considering your categorical approach i want to remind you that i'm not saying "once a thief - always a thief", i'm talking about this exact situation of this exact person and the analogy is picked very carefully since lying and cheating work very much alike especially since the first is often involved into the latter
1 like@pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease look
0 likesShe knows what she did was wrong
Like every criminals
Everyone knows what is good and bad after becoming adult except people with disabilities
Every criminal knows they did something bad thats the reason why they plan out things to hide their dids
You know right and wrong when you are with your friends other people you see behaving in certain way you don't only live with your parents
She was totally normal person
She was extremely dependent on other people not willing to working hard
Many people i know had horrible parents and many of them had extremely wealthy spoiled background but they still are working hard
things like lying/alcohol/ her life style made her that way
Why. Just why the hell they let her go. That's exactlly what she wanned.
0 likesI was gobsmacked when caseys best friend christina started getting upset on the phone about if anything happens to caylee and caseys reaction was to say the call was a waste! She is a monster
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Right!!she'll get hers
3 likesThis 'story' appears to be a movie. An advertising movie for the law firm? As evidenced by the last remarks of Casey's Attorney's.
4 likesHow & why was a big time Celebrity Investigator used?
Nothing makes sense, reality wise or legally..
The 'penis' remark to the jury was odd, Caylee drowned, but nothing more was said about it?, the only 'evidence' was a Disney bottle near the remains? Disney? Oh come on!, and the biggest bullshit of all..pics from a computer search on suffocation that:
1. wasn't confiscated, but had a photo of it?
2. Casey 'erased' after they were found? 🙄
To me, Casey appears to be in acting overload.
And now, she apparently lives in West Palm Beach with the 'investigator' on her 'case'. I call bullshit.
Patrick McKenna called George Anthony "bizarre"..& said:
"Their granddaughter’s remains had just been found and they’re sitting around booking television interviews and talking about how much money their foundation is making.”
@Rashaunacobb
1 likeYep. Right in good old West Palm Beach.
i laughed out loud
2 likesThe fact the after she was released she didn’t even try looking for her daughters killer shows that she did it. She’s going to rot in hell
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Her claim was that her daughter drowned in the family pool so there would be no killer to look for.
21 likesMalaise Lindenfeld ... don’t you think the facts about where and how she was found ultimately blow that lie out of the water... bitter, poignant pun intended.
13 likesAnd hell will be hot.
1 likeshe's been looking in the mirror everyday. she's already "found them" :(
1 likeSharon Waltman I personally believe that with the evidence (even if not justified) she drowned her in chloroform hence the back seat having high amounts of it. She wrapped her up in her Winnie the Pooh sheet, put her in the laundry basket, and tossed her in the backseat until she threw the remains and ditched the car somewhere after.
4 likes@A D the hell is called Earth, this is why Devils and demons succeed.
2 likesThere are a million "facts" that prove she did it.
3 likesBecause she's the killer
4 likesJayla Ro you’re completely right. I guess I was only taking in consideration all the lies she told before using that as her defense.
1 like@Malaise Lindenfeld would that not be a form of child neglect is my question
0 likesdagmastr Rumor is that OJ son hated Nicole & his hat was at scene. Some people think OJ took fall for him.
0 likesI'm so sad... This person was released? I only watched 30 mins of it and I felt that she did it immediately. How can you be so calm when your kid is missing? I'm so sad. I shouldn't of watched this it's so sad and this person just gets to continue to live their life free when people who do say less worse stuff can spend like years in jail, and shes just out there right now while those people who've paid for their crimes are just like still in there
1 likeLiterally started crying in the shower about this, which is a new crying spot for me. I just I am so deeply saddened by this, I was an unwanted and unloved child and it just breaks my heart for that this happened to another young girl that didn't do anything but paid the price of having shit parents but for this little girl like 10000000000x worse because how can you harm your toddler?
Oh fuck no!!!!! She is not using abuse as a way out no way. Listen here people I was abused and I was raped by people in my family. I told someone they didn't care. But does that mean I go around turning into a lying piece of shit? No no no no no you don't get to blame killing a kid on rape no that's not how it works!!!!!! If that was how it works my parents and my family gave me just about a gazillion reasons to be a horribly lying piece of poop. I am a broken person and so is everyone else in my life but they does not give anyone the right to hurt others and people who think it does are stupid and selfish and there must just be something wrong with them and I hate them. I hate you if you can be raped and beaten and broken down by someone who's suppose to love you and then go right around and do it to others? Especially other innocent people, it just makes me sick.
Too bad hell doesn't exist.
0 likesToo bad there's no hell and so she's evaded justice forever.
1 like@K M Weekes be aware of all red herrings. They are a defense attorneys dream and they are a weapon they use against innocent jurist. They had enough evidence to convict. They got thrown by the child abuse from dad which was never proven, a red herring and does not justify murder. I was abused by all the boys in my family and my father and never killed my kid.
0 likesWell the defense attorney did say the baby drowned in the pool so that is why she try to get rid of the body and didn't tell anyone after a month
0 likesFight or flight. Face or avoid.
1 likeYou need to expand your perspective.
Then she had twins 😪
0 likesNo. It proves she never cared about he daughter .
1 likeShe got released??? There is truly no justice in this world..
0 likes@A D Don't forget how she showed ZERO remorse for her and tried just sweep it all under the rug.
0 likesLauren Anderson is this a joke? She killed caylee and found peace after her baby girl took her last breath
0 likes@Sharon Waltman not saying she did not kill her daughter. She most likely did. Just pointing out that it would be illogical for het to say she drowned and the go look for the killer.
0 likes@Dita Zamberga having a child drown? It can happen im a split second. That said, even though I normally like to play devil's advocate and tend to believe in people's innocence, I think Casey Anthony killed her own daughter.
0 likesThis is the same country where there's thousands of men serving 12 years for having had weed in their pockets.
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gotta keep those beds full....money money money.....
61 likes@peartfaldo MONEYY
1 likeDuh NOT. If they’re getting that amount of time there was a looooong criminal history that led up to that.
0 likes@krazed0451 what a brilliant comeback 😂😂😂😂
0 likes@K Another one joins the fray to display their ignorance.
11 likesExactly. Make it make sense 🤦🏻♀️
2 likes@Real Deal pleb
3 likes@hameed Hameed the 🐑 stuffer
1 like@hameed Can you even READ BRO 😂
0 likes@hameed 2+2= Hameed stuffs 🐑
1 likeThat's why men go Elliot Rodgers.
0 likesWell good for her
0 likesShe got caught in so many lies, how the hell she walked free is beyond me.
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She’s white
19 likesFlorida
8 likesGabrielle Alvree the prosecution was horrendous and her attorney was very, very good.
2 likesThyme Warp he’s not “sleazy.” He’s very good at his job.
0 likes@showgun and OJ...
2 likes@showgun true
2 likesThat’s exactly it, there were so many lies that the jury by the end didn’t know what to believe . She made prosecuting her almost impossible by fabricating so many things and her family STUPIDLY backing her up
0 likes@showgun She's she's FTFY
0 likesBeckk he is devils advocate 👿
0 likes@showgun She's white AND hot AND female! That's the trifecta of "not guilty!"
2 likesdarrenmuse How do you explain O.J. Simpson then? How does he fit into your trifecta?
0 likes@Jim J They're not mutually exclusive. I'm talking about specifically in this case. In O.J.'s case, it's best not to let the flaming racist be the one to gather glove evidence.....is a good rule of thumb.
0 likesAmazing how these pychotic women get away with it eh nk ???
0 likesThere has to be physical evidence to create a prosecution, without direct physical evidence or unscrupulous probable cause they can’t create a foundation for conviction.
0 likesEven with motive, speculation and intention they can not create a undoubtable conviction due to lack of direct evidence or proof.
This is the problem with the judicial system it’s not what you know it’s what you can prove and if a crime lacks direct physical evidence, not here say or suspicion there can not be a conviction.
It’s disgusting to know she’s walking free. The only reason is because the evidence was messed with. She should’ve been locked away for good, literal psychopath.
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I highly doubt it is that clearcut.. That family is beyond dysfunctional (the mother is clearly narcissistic and Casey appears to suffer from BPD - potentially induced by sexual abuse in her childhood at the hands of her father, as per her defence). Caylee was almost certainly murdered, but by whom is - incredibly - still open for debate.
7 likes@Dingleberry I am amazed at how you are defending her just like the lawyer.
49 likesThere is no reason to tape both her nose and mouth with duct tape if she accidentally drowned, add to it her search history, her diary entry, tattoo, and partying within a month of her child it is pretty clear what happened.
Don't act like it is considered fact that she was in fact abused, she has been lying since day one, and there is absolutely zero confirmation anywhere that she actually was abused.
All you have is her word, and it has already been established time and time again, that the one thing that we know absolutely for sure, is that she lies like no other.
I, however, disagree with Michayla, Casey should not be sent to jail.
She should be shot.
@Dingleberry it's clear she had her daughter's dead body in the back of her car for some time and lied about it. I believe if she had been male she'd would have been found guilty but she was able to manipulate society's bias that mothers put the needs of their children first, steadfastly kept to her lies to maintain doubt and had an exceptional defense lawyer.
14 likesPrecisely. Perfect example of a justice system fail. Sociopath for sure
5 likes@Linuriel Kawalajin Bravo.
3 likesare evidence when you think about what evidence you need to convict her this is a tough one DNA would be a problem as there would DNA everywhere as well as fingerprints what you need is a confession or a video showing her killing and dumping the body
0 likesYep, when the world is run my psychopaths, stuff like this is allowed to happen. The guilty walk free, and the innocent are convicted with the most severe sentences.
2 likes@Dingleberry What makes you think that the mother is NPD and Casey BPD?
1 likeShe is judged not guilty, so she is not guilty.
0 likes@pN Gaming being judged not guilty ≠ being judged innocent for a reason.
1 like@Chance in the terms of law she is innocent
0 likesDingleberry don’t you DARE LIKEN CASEY ANTONY TO PEOPLE WITH BPD. Not even CLOSE. And the sexual abuse claims were investigated and no merit was found, so watch what you accuse people of without evidence
0 likespN Gaming not true. When your charges are read out in court, the jury either responds with a “guilty” or “not guilty” verdict. You need to show proof beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict someone of a serious crime such as murder. If the jury still finds a shadow of doubt despite the evidence, they can return a “not guilty” verdict. They CANNOT rule you innocent or exonerate you of a crime. What are they, god?? Where they all there and watched you during the crime and know for a fact you’re 100% innocent? that’s ridiculous
2 likes@pN Gaming no, in the terms of the law she is not guilty. The justice system doesn't set out to prove innocence.
0 likes@Chance ok 😳
0 likesWhen her best friend Christina seemed more sad about the child missing than Casey herself... says alot.
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Yep, exactly!
7 likesnot only was her friend more sad than casey ,casey acted annoyed by her friends appropriate emotions.
36 likesMakes you wonder how they became friends to begin with.
18 likesAstounding honestly.
I swear my blood ia boiling like a hot water lol, I'm so mad at this girl casey
5 likesCaseys response" WOW . OMG"
3 likesHow disgusting.
@Kitty Stetson she probably deceived everyone she knew.
5 likesCasey: I was an event coordinator
935 likesJCS Narrator: She wasn’t. She worked behind a kiosk that took pictures for the Incredible Hulk ride.
JCS can be ruthless sometimes.
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I love it
12 likesThe best 💯
1 likebased on the timeline i might have actually met her there
5 likes@Hayao Kakizaki double speak
0 likesI'd say that said "ruthlessness" was pretty well deserved
0 likesAnd her friend Juliette Lewis. You know, the famous actress.
1 likeI cried 😭😂😂
0 likesHe’s just stating facts
0 likes@Hayao Kakizaki waste management
0 likes😅😅😅
0 likesIf only she gave her to her parents.
0 likesDisappointed that she didn’t get time.....
0 likesMy heart dropped after hearing Casey's best friend crying, asking about the baby. Made me shed a tear. And that sicko replying that the call was a waste of time...
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She's a complete sociopath, and that's regardless of whether she killed her daughter or not (which she plainly did given all the evidence).
11 likesPeter Pike psychopath **
0 likes@dnl303 -- Well, neither "psychopath" nor "sociopath" are official psychological terms. So if you want to get precise, she's got signs of antisocial personality disorder. Regardless of anything else, she clearly lacks empathy and is only focused on herself. She could be anywhere along the Cluster B personality disorder scale.
4 likesShe is such a monster.
0 likesShe’s so good at creating characters in detail, maybe she should write fiction.
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in prison yes
85 likesIt would never hang together. She'd assume that her audience forgot what she'd shown them on the last page.
63 likesMight be good at being a DM for DND, be a great BBEG. but only if she plays from prison.
9 likesShould've*
1 likeMaybe she could give OJ's book "If I did it" a run for it's money 😑
7 likesThat would require effort. Do you really think she's capable of that?
2 likes@Dad Facts DND is actually pretty popular in some prisons. Men's prisons, at least, not sure about women's.
0 likesShe’s apparently writing a book since 2019 or as of recently (from what I read)
1 likeIt's amazing how easily she does it with such detail. She is frightening.
2 likes@Shmuel U should*
0 likesHer own my kampf in a way but fictional
0 likes@elleohel I think that the judge should have put some sort of thing in place to prevent Casey from profiting off Caylee's death, like Casey would with a book deal.
0 likes@OldWoman Psychopathic...
0 likesShe did, and it clearly sold well
0 likesShe is writing a book.
0 likesWas she though? You got Zanny the nanny and the name of a famous actress, Juliet Lewis lol. Doesn’t seem too creative to me, just my opinion though.
0 likesSo since Casey “didn’t” kill her daughter, who did? Like they’re just gonna close the case? She was found not guilty but who else could have done it? Unbelievable.
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exactly!!!
14 likesIt's her she admit she did tell it to a co prisonner she was with
12 likesThey know she did it. The jury failed.
76 likesYou might not have finished the video. Her daughter drowned in the pool (filled with duct tape apparently), according to the defendant's party. And that's what the jury has accepted with the verdict
22 likes@Olivier why would she admit to another prisoner that she killed her own child? I’ve never been to prison before but from what I’ve heard people like baby killers don’t get it easy 😬
8 likesShe will probably admit to it with a smirk on her face when drunk or on her death bed.
16 likesDevin Roskos - In today's degraded paradigm, it doesn't matter what you've done; even killing a child. As long as you identify as a 'victim', you'll get away with, quite literally, murder!!! Victimhood automatically grants you a 'Get out of Jail free' card! If we haven't figured that one out by now, we haven't been paying attention!!!
2 likes@BiggestBoofer I doubt that. People who lie as freely and without conscious as she does tend to keep lying. I bet even if she learned she only had 24 hours to live she would not say what really happened 😑
0 likes@Olivier Even if she would admit to it now and do a completely confession, they couldn't prosecute her again.
0 likes@Sarah Pruitt Maybe to get it off of her chest!!! But I agree with you I think she did not admit to it.
0 likesAs we say in Italy:" Jesus Christ did not die from a cold..."
0 likes@Dez Dandy - You seem to have a bit of an 'agenda' going on yourself, it seems! I think it entirely inappropriate to bring 'color' and being 'white' into a tragedy of such gravity, yet you've conveniently overlooked those comments! So who exactly turned 'a child death into a completely different issue'!! It's quite astonishing how you have entirely ignored the statement (indeed, several statements) that elicited my response!!
0 likesIts inadmissible that this woman was not found guilty of murder. This little girl did not get the justice she deserved. That's just monstrous.
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I mean, it's just post-term abortion. I believe that mothers should be able to abort children up to the age of 18 years.
4 likes@Nicholas Byram lol
1 likeNicholas Byramakes total sense to me
0 likesCaleb Foster wow edgy
0 likesfmellark so true. I guess now we can be assured that karma will come around when she least expects it!
0 likesAnd the grandparents are nuts as well.
2 likesI mean she is being punished, everyone knows her, idk who would ever associate with her again
1 likeShe didn't deserve justice or any other idealistic values which the society holds dear. She's dead, nothing matters to her anymore. The society wants to feel good about itself and fight for her justice. It's baffling how narcissistic we are when we think punishing someone can compensate for the loss of something as precious as life. The only reason we punish the murderer is because we are afraid that they are still dangerous and might harm the society even more, not for the dead child. It's just satisfying ourselves.
1 like@Sourabh Jadhav so basically you're saying actions should have no consequences? And murderers should not be punished because their victims are already dead so it doesnt matter? Justice is pointless and laws should not be followed? What a load of horseshit. Every action has a reaction, the things you do matter and consequences should be suffered. When you hurt someone, you should not go unpunished because you have no right to hurt someone. You have no right to murder a human being and if you do you MUST pay for it. That's not narcissism, that's right and fair. Wanna commit a crime, well then, you should be prepared to face the consequences for it, whatever they may be. The system FAILED Caylee, her life was taken brutally and no one paid for it, the crime committed against her went unpunished, basically means she was not deserving of justice, she couldnt defend herself and no one else did. It's not about making others feel good about themselves, it's about the criminal paying for what she did. Laws are put in place for a reason, without justice and punishment the world would be in chao, even more than it already is. Also, you saying a murdered little girl deserves no justice is just sick and disturbing.
5 likesDoes this justice give back the child her opportunity to experience life ? No. I say it again she doesn't deserve justice,it's useless for her, what she deserves is a chance at life. Everything else is horseshit. Everything else is for the society and its self serving needs.
1 likeLaws are a medium to contain chaos, sure, I'm not arguing about that. But I'm saying that the justice is for the society's beliefs not for the girl. It's a feel good mechanism for everyone else who are horrified by the crime. It's a reassurance to the society that the world is safe to live in. All of it for their own self. Nothing for the child.
Nevertheless, I understand your outlook, it's the most common one.
@fmellark 👍
0 likesCaleb Foster guess will find out
0 likes@Cailen Foster you're still alive that's your evidence that GOD exists whether you like it or not.
0 likes@Tjways there is justice in the after life. it will make sense then. GOD will repay us all ... whatever we did GOOD or BAD
0 likes@r.m. are you seriously romans 1:20 ing me. Or are you saying that in order for life to exist at all there needs to be something that created it. If so what created god. If you are saying all I need to do is look at nature then I would say all you have to do is look at nature and see that your bible is wrong about most things when It proclaims to know things about nature or the origins of life. Why should I believe something with insufficient evidence
0 likes@r.m. Not to be rude but I have yet to see the evidence of god... some people and book wouldn't make me believe in it.. and if god is all powerful and good he/she/it should help when it happens and not afterwards in the form of justice
0 likes@Hq there is a hell and that hell is when she die the mother isn't innocent
0 likes@Cailen Foster he does but ok your opinion
0 likes@Nicholas Byram can't tell if this is sarcasm. Lol
0 likes@scottcol23 If you can't tell if it's sarcasm, it either is, or is the Green New Deal.
0 likes@Nicholas Byram my sarcasm was not understanding your sarcasm. Twas a joke sir.
0 likes@scottcol23 I was being sarcastic when I suggested you may not have known.
0 likesWhen Casey’s dad heard for the first time that he sexually assaulted her when she was younger he was probably like “dang, I don’t remember that ever happening, but our daughter doesn’t lie and her attorney is so good... My bad, Casey!”
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@MonsterKat 1:01:17
8 likesI liked this, but only because there is no sadface emoji.
11 likesThis is so funny and true.
5 likesMonsterKat I don’t believe so. The attorney was talking about her being sexually abused at 8 years old. Her daughter was only 3. Unless I missed that part somewhere along the way (or if was mentioned somewhere else besides this video).
24 likesGuess who was paying for this ,
32 likesDaddy of course. Wonder if he saw that coming.
@Racer X Exactly haha and right? He definitely had no idea she was gonna have her dirty attorney pull that out of nowhere.
16 likes@Racer X idk. Maybe he didn't mind to save his daughter. I mean I'd never have it that way. If you kill a child you're dead to me. But he seems to love her through it all
6 likes@CrossFoot I thought about that too , the parents are well aware of who she is , they created and enabled her. You would think they would just let her go but I guess," all for one and one for all "
12 likesWait a minute, I assumed that he was a step dad...
4 likesThey said that about him?! What! Really? What the fuck!
Blame it all on men.. women are all angels
I saw an interview with the child killers parents and her father stated he has no relationship with her now but the mother does. She tore so many lives apart and just skipped away. Wtf!! Come on Karma... Caylee is waiting on you😢😢😢💔💔💔😢😢😢
14 likesThe father and mother didn't seem shocked sat in court when her lawyer said that in graphic detail. It wouldn't surprise me if they told her it's ok to say that. Also how can they be supportive of her, and to this day when they now know she googled how to suffocate a child, etc?
3 likes@MonsterKat they said Casey was abused by her father as a child explaining her strange reactions to this and other bad things in her life. Not Caylee the little girl.
0 likesSo his defense was that even tho she was a liar, she had a good reason for being so. But then the opposition attorney did not use that opportunity to point out that if Casey is a liar, then undoubtedly lied about not killing her daughter?
2 likes@MonsterKat You misheard.
0 likes@MonsterKat no they said casey had leant to lie because she had her fathers openis in her mouth then ha to be normal at school!
0 likes@Anastasiya Sam That's not how evidence works. If people really want the full story, they have to understand WHY things happened the way they did. You don't have to agree or support it for it to be true.
0 likes@mr Meerkat They don't know for sure that was her. She was also with her boyfriend the whole time.
0 likesDid her father really sexually abuse her? Is that claim fact or accusation?
0 likes@air breather it would not be used as evidence. The same way the lawyer was trying to make ppl have a good opinion of his client's character and trustworthy with a sexual abuse story for which there is no evidence, the other lawyer could have used this opportunity to lower their opinion of her character.
0 likes@Anastasiya Sam The proof has to be presented by the prosecutors, not the defense. It's innocent until proven guilty. Obviously the defense is going to try and reverse the massive amount of negative press that preceded far before the actual court appearances. It's really easy to take a stand against something wrong, but it's a lot harder to understand why and how it happened.
0 likes@Joel Alexander There wa son evidence presented for it, but while she was gone her father had searched for chloroform and neck breaking. It was also found in the back of her car and on her parent's property.
0 likes@air breather they wasn't sure it was her that googled about suffocation? I know the mother said it was her that googled chloroform and that it was a mistake.
0 likes@mr Meerkat It was in the bookmarks and was searched at least twice. Plus it was found on their property along with their daughters trunk. The cause if death was offically undetermined by the coroner, but they did find duct tape on the mouth and drowning was the defenses claim.
0 likes@air breather I missed that in the video. What do you think happened? Is her father guilty?
0 likes@Joel Alexander knowing that every word that has come out of her mouth during this whole situation, it's an absolute lie. Somehow she's gotten away with every lie she's told so that's why my original comment is kinda funny.
0 likes@mr Meerkat My guess would be the father or the boyfriend killed the child, and she knew about it. Then she dissociated by partying and ignoring the problem. She knew she wasn't missing, but was very adamant that she left her child in the care of someone she couldn't admit. If you rewatch it and only listen to the words she says, it seems to me she wants her daughter back but knows that she made a mistake leaving her daughter with her father or boyfriend. I would say the boyfriend did it, since the father didn't really come across as the one involved, but the evidence points to the father. Why would they look up chloroform while she was gone and have it show up in the back of her car? Why did she only talk to her mother and not her father after? Why did Casie only shake her head in denial when they said she was the only one involved?
0 likesWe'll never really know how she died, but that's my guess. Even if she did it, she's been with a good guy and his kid for a while and it doesn't seem like she'd ever commit an act like that again. Her father was the only one in her family who was very outspoken about her never having a kid again.
@air breather I'm new to this case and the video we watched gives you a certain narrative that she is guilty. You seem to have more indepth knowledge of this case than anyone else I've seen in the comments. I thought the same about her burying her head in the sand, partying with her boyfriend Tony. I did wonder afterwards what he thought about it. Where did he think the little girl was in that month? With her parents? It didn't say much about him. Would she just stay with the guy who has killed her daughter? Maybe. She could have blocked it out. Did he keep her close because he knew she might talk? Did the father allow his daughter to say that about him in court because he felt guilty about her getting the death penalty? Or did he really abuse her? Your absolutely right, I don't know if we will ever really know.
0 likes@mr Meerkat Sadly we won't, but if you look up the case there's the Wikipedia page with sources from the time and a bunch of other articles that are worth reading. Definitely a lot of unanswered questions and avenues they could've gone to while she was not cooperating, but it's far too late now. The bright side is that her life and her families lives are normal by most standards, beyond the press. I like this channel, but it's purely centered around the power of criminal interrogation tactics and real cases so it's a little biased.
0 likes@air breather I will check it on wikipedia. I have been a watching a video for the past couple of hours on the Jonbenet Ramsey case (this one I am aware of) , and one video only gives you so much information and then you watch another and it changes your mind. I might just read wikipedia first then watch in future.
0 likes@mr Meerkat If you're really interested in law or criminal investigations, these videos are definitely a great resource. I wouldn't take facts to build a case from here though, since this is more of a study on how investigators build the picture. For the full story, always check the sources Wikipedia uses since they have most of the details there. You can also check out full cases in court details directly, or through some public libraries for older ones. It's a really interesting topic to me too, since it's such a complex practice.
0 likes@air breather thanks for the advice. I normally watch a YouTube video on a case, and if it interested me enough I will watch other channels with body language analysis experts. Then try and read source material rather than other people's interpretation of it. Especially if that crime has happened in the city or area I live. YouTube comments on these videos are good to put your ideas forward, but it is the court of public opinion.
0 likesProsecution: Shes a liar and shes lying.
493 likesDefense: Shes a liar and shes lying.
Jury: Not guilty.
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Basically
3 likesDefense: She's a liar, she's lying, and you have no proof of anything.***
9 likes@Sparks 1013 Is presented with damning evidence including the dead body found less than a mile from her house
7 likesYou: "I pretend I do not see it"
Wrong: She was convicted of lying to police. She was acquitted of murder.
2 likes@Ben Weaver that was not my take on the case, that was the defense's stance. I was simply correcting the OP.
2 likesSparks 1013 My bad lol
0 likesQue loucura
0 likesThe defense's argument is so bizarre that the jurors believed it. Casey was abused growing up so she somehow gets a free pass to kill or cover up the accidental death of her own daughter?
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"Beyond a shadow of a doubt". Do you think she did it or do you know she did it?
18 likesNo...... She was abused as a child, which we just have indications of now, so that is why she lied about her child drowning.... The physical evidence was unfortunately not great, because she hid the body long enough.]. Although the, oh by the way I was abused and just now am telling anyone about it and so I lie can't blame me,argument would have turned me off immediately.
17 likes@Virgonation09 there is always a shadow of a doubt.
27 likesAlways.
How does one drown with duct tape over their mouth and nose?
51 likes@Nerobyrne not always, but using your words in the court of law, no one should ever be found guilty. Circumstantial evidence isnt enough most of the time. Remember "innocent until proven guilty" not vice versa. That means you have to prove she's guilty, not she has to prove she's innocent and if you cant prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt, you more or less dont really have a case
7 likes@Virgonation09 yeah it's worded poorly, because you can very rarely prove someone guilty, and even then it's never 100%.
12 likesWhat the phrase should be is "innocent until convicted", because that's how it is applied
@Gasgasmotorsports oh they had lots of evidence.
11 likesMore evidence than a lot of murders.
That's the problem with a jury, they are just regular people, easy to manipulate.
Of course I understand why it came about, and back then it was a good idea.
But much like star chambers, this was an initially good idea which ended up being worse in the long-run.
@Zakovo you put the water in and then tape them shut so it stays in
0 likesNot a shred of evidence to support the "i was abused as a child" statement. It was said only once in the opening statement to plant a seed of doubt in jurors mind and to have a leverage as to why she kept a secret about hiding the child's body. Kind of "Casey kept a secret at the age of 8 and also at the age of 28" thing.
33 likesZakov Quite easily I would think. But I get what you’re saying.
0 likes@Norman yup, exactly.
16 likesThat's why I oppose the concept of juries. They don't know how manipulation tactics work, most of the time.
@Virgonation09 The legal standard of proof in criminal cases isn't "beyond a shadow of a doubt" though, it's "beyond a reasonable doubt". If the former was the standard, you would almost never be able to find a defendant guilty of murder, unless they committed the crime right in front of the watching jury. Circumstantial evidence is often enough, and many cases are decided on mostly or all circumstantial evidence. The type of evidence is not as important as the quality or quantity of it.
9 likesYou can have a situation in which an innocent defendants is wrongly convicted solely on the basis of direct evidence — for example, a coerced confession or a mistaken identification by a witness — and you can also have compelling evidence that is entirely circumstantial, like finding the defendant's fingerprints and DNA at the scene of a crime.
@Nerobyrne thats not true, some of the jurors have even been interviewed since. They all believed Casey had some part in Caylee's death, but the prosecution failed to demonstrate that it was 1st Degree Murder, and the guilty verdict meant the death penalty. None of the jurors fealt comfortable with sending her to her death.
2 likes@Grimkaizer I think USA should just get rid of the death penalty.
3 likesProbably she would have been voted guilty from what you say if it had been a life sentence.
"Convince the jury your client is a wounded angel and the victim (or someone else) is the devil and you win"
8 likesSomething like that is what one of the more famous slimy lawyers for the mob said in an interview once. He would chuckle about the cases he pulled off like victories over big challenges when in reality he knowingly helped get mafia murderers and abusers scot free.
@Moreno James the problem isn't that lawyer, it's the fact that this tactic works.
0 likesDon't blame those who abuse the system, but rather those who refuse to fix it.
@Nerobyrne "Don't blame those who abuse the system, but rather those who refuse to fix it." I can blame both well enough, actually.
6 likes@Moreno James you can, but it won't help much ^^
1 likeThey're gonna stay assholes, but the system doesn't have to stay broken.
That wasn’t the defense’s argument at all. 😂😂😂. “Your honor I would like to enter a motion for a free 1st degree murder pass, on account of child abuse”. WTF?! 😂
1 likeI highly doubt she was abused as a child...cannot believe Baez would use such a lie as her defense
5 likes@Liam Sanchez goes to Vegas actually that was the argument, but obviously not worded like that.
1 likeAlso it was addressed to the jury, not the judge, which is exactly the problem imo.
Juries are dumb.
Lastly, it was "don't kill this person", not "don't punish them." Unfortunately, those were the only two options, which is why the death penalty is really stupid. It makes it much harder to get convictions, because people would much rather put someone in jail literally until they die than be responsible for sentencing someone to death.
Nerobyrne “Convicted”, and “proven guilty” are the exact same thing. Btw, physical, DNA evidence and a confession containing information that only the perpetrator of the crime could know, would be pretty difficult to pull off by an innocent person, unless those details were fed to the suspect during the interrogation. (Making a murderer)
1 like@Nerobyrne
1 likeOr innocent until convinced otherwise.
@Virgonation09 Beyond reasonable double, not a shadow of a doubt
1 likeHey...lawyer is one slick SOB...
2 likes@Nerobyrne thats why its called REASONABLE doubt. Not just doubt.
2 likes@Virgonation09 She did it because her daughter got in the way of partying.
3 likes@Zakovo how the jury don't see that???not willing to bring justice.
0 likes@Nerobyrne from my understanding, it was the fact the prosecution went for first degree, which requires pre meditation. They couldn't even prove she killed her let alone pre mediate it so that was on the prosecution for going for the jugular. They should have tried for 2nd or manslaughter and could have maybe swung the jury.
3 likes@Grimkaizer if that's true than why was she let off on both the child abuse and manslaughter charges?
0 likes@DoDaPoomLaka at the end of the video when they read the verdict they said not guilty on charges of child abuse and manslaughter as well. So she was charged will all of them.
0 likes@John V I'm saying if that was the initial charge. I think going for the most severe along with the others fucked everything. Unfortunately we will never know.
0 likesNo, what they were saying is that she was abused as a child and learned at an early age to lie and cover up family secrets. That statement dismisses all the evidence of Casey lying to police about the nanny and shit when she actually (defense theory) drowned in the pool and the family tried to cover it up.
0 likesThen they used a smokescreen of saying "You can't get caught up in the emotions of a little girl's death to make a conviction. You have to have proof beyond a reasonable doubt" to keep anyone from digging into the alleged father abuse and drowning.
@DoDaPoomLaka the duct tape should actually be evidence of first degree murder. idk who to blame here because I was not at the trial but with the information presented she's obviously guilty of 1st degree murder.
2 likes@Ernesto D. they couldn't prove she duct taped her mouth. None of her dna was foind on it and the defense tried to say her dad did it to help cover it up. Ultimately nothing was proven beyond a reasonable doubt and that is why she wasn't convicted.
0 likes@DoDaPoomLaka The existence of duct doesn't prove Casey put it on her but the rest of the evidence does. The google search, the car smell, the diary entry, the lies, the parties, the coldness, etc etc. The jury got manipulated by Baez. After that closing statement, she wouldn't have been convicted of anything regardless of what the charge was. No wonder so many disturbingly stupid news articles start with "Florida man"
2 likesThere was no proof of her ever being abused. If her father had abused her and she actually loved her daughter, she wouldnt have allowed them contact. She wasn't even properly disciplined as a child because she literally got away with everything; this is probably why she thought she could get away with killing her daughter. We'll never know if it was an accidently death or if she did it on purpose, but there is no doubt that she caused her daughters death.
3 likes@DoDaPoomLaka i agree. She was, at the very least, guilty of negligent homicide. I wish she would be charged with a wrongful death suit.
0 likes@Virgonation09 beyond a reasonable doubt. So if the doubt isn't reasonable u find then guilty.
0 likesReasonable is open to interpretation by the jury
@Maia Waive well the quote is "shadow of a doubt", and that always exists.
0 likesReasonable doubt makes much more sense.
@Zakovo Casey put the tape on after with stickers and such on the tape, it was a 'kid like gesture'
1 like@Have a Banana Exactly ma'am! Well said.
0 likes@MsJakilynJackie, I completely agree with you. She was most definitely not abused and the fact that she tried to say that just proves her delusionary behavior. She is straight evil and I hope that karma takes her down and that she never has another child.
0 likes@Emile Griffith I admit, I meant to say reasonable doubt, even so, the defense instilled enough doubt into their minds to make them question whether she really did it or not, therefore, they had to let her off
0 likesThe prosecution dropped the ball
0 likesGrimkaizer that’s a cop out on their part. The internet searches that same da?. All the lies? They were idiots.
0 likesNerobyrne The arguments were addressed to the jury because it was a trial by jury. The judge is there to preside over the court proceedings, and if needed, sentence the guilty party. The constitution affords anyone accused of a crime the right to a trial by jury. That’s why the arguments from the defense and prosecution were directed to the jury, and not the judge. In this case it was not the judges job to determine guilt or innocence.
0 likesNerobyrne Also, there were other “options”, as she was found not guilty of any of the crimes she was charged with. The only charge against her that carried the death penalty was 1st degree murder. (Not being a jerk, just factual information)
0 likesThe worse part is th that she is free, wth
0 likesShe sounds like Kristen Stewart lmao 🤣
0 likesShe instills such a primal, vitriolic anger in me. Even her name just makes me annoyed 😡
345 likesgonna power through for your video though 🌸
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Casey Anthony , for me, is RIGHT UP THERE WITH JODI ARIAS, DIANE DOWNS, SUSAN SMITH, DARLIE ROUTIER. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS CASE IS MORE HORRIFIC, CASEY ANTHONY WAS NEVER CONVICTED FOR CAYLEE'S DEATH. 🤨😣😪
19 likes@Julie A. And the mccanns
6 likesStephanie Carroll - 🤡🤡🤡
1 likeTrue!
2 likesSame
2 likesStephanie Carroll Leave my name alone
1 likeI feel you girl. Can't take it either. I am punching out and admire your resolve for sticking with it. You are tougher than I.
3 likesYeah in me too, those eyebrows are horrible!
2 likes@Anaphylactic Pete Yes! Absolutely Right! I also think of that case in Florida, the baby taken from crib. I forgot their name. It is REALLY eerie to me how many similarities these sociopaths have, and the family dynamics they grow up in. 😣
2 likes@Julie A. She was charged. She was tried. No charges, no trial.
2 likesI didn't even watch the video yet, just scrolling down the comments and seeing what it's about..it sent shivers down my spines and tears to my eyes..
3 likesSame...
1 like@LG She is still guilty. An her day will come when she will come up missing or dead...cuz she drugged her daughter many many times before. This time she gave too much an killed her ! She was sick of the kid an was tired of her parents love for her child over her. She loved the attention. But the guy she wanted didn't want her . So mean while lil Caylee is drugged in the trunk!!
1 like@LG yes, you are right. Charged but not convicted. Thank you for this .👐
1 like@Aidan Khaos I am sorry I didn't see ur name in it. Why did u lose your child u Casey needs to go antknee
1 like@hiding in the comments absolutely, it is very tragic and so eerie when you see these sociopaths being interviewed, and having absolutely NO EMPATHY.😣
1 likeStephanie Carroll - perfectly said ... exactly how I’m feeling too..
2 likes@Nate Ward sorry, i'm from new york, we are accused of screaming when we are actually WHISPERING!😏
1 likeWhat you just said is EXACTLY how I feel about Jodi Arias. Thank you for putting the words together I couldn’t have on my own...
2 likes@The After-Hours i agree, when i see jodi arias in news, i STILL get the chills. 😣 her eyes remind me of the eyes of a great white, " dead eyes".
2 likesJulie A. - I was raised to not make fun of things like teeth or weight or pimples or anything like that. You know, things people can’t control? When I see her face, hear her voice, I feel like I’ve never felt towards a person before. I never thought I could resent someone so much. Especially someone that has no effect on my life whatsoever. As much as I hate to admit it, even to myself, I’m glad she has slightly crossed eyes and giant teeth. I just can’t stand her. She deserves nothing pleasant.
2 likesJulie A. - she harbors a personality that which could poison people around her and have a negative impact on humanity...I believe that. That’s why I can’t stand it when anyone calls her intelligent, attractive, hot or creative.
2 likesJulie A. - I think I hate her. Hahaha 😶😉
1 like@The After-Hours you sound like a VERY compassionate and Empathetic person. I too feel exactly how you feel. I try NOT to have this anger and hate for these killers. When i followed the jodi arias case, it bothered me so much when people, mainly guys, would assume bc she looked pretty to them on the outside , somehow she couldn't have done such a horrific crime.
2 likesI feel so gutted thinking that if Caylee was still alive today, she would turn 15 yrs old Aug 9th. 😪
someone needs to do something about this. I have a feeling she slept with people and that's how she got her verdict. she ended up dating one of her defense investigators. sex is a powerful thing and there is no denying casey was attractive. so many times do i end up hating people and their basic low-brow needs, as I sit here alone.
2 likes@The After-Hours totally agree, the word Toxic, Dangerous, and Evil is description for her. I was surprised to read she has a serious boyfriend, ( at least she did awhile back). What guy would ever want to be with her , or even consider settling down and having children with her? It takes All Kinds i suppose. 😵
2 likes@Star Kicker yup, wouldn't be surprised. How does that Baez guy sleep at night. He is poster " child" for CREEPY LAWYER 😬
1 likeextreme misinformation in this one oh my god
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where?
1 like@jay yt claims gaslighting is something everyone with NPD does . specifically says 'all with narcissistic personality disorder.' I don't know how this channel can present itself as anything related to 'psychiatry'
3 likesHow is this diabolical monster just walking the streets without a care in the world? It's disgusting!
0 likesThank You .🌹
0 likesBoy did they fuck this case up shame on them all
0 likesI’m confused with the Defense’s opening statement being “Caylee died by drowning in the family’s swimming pool” to his closing statement being “it can never be proven how Caylee died”.
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Jury: I agree.
98 likesThat's the point though. He's saying, this is what happened and you can't prove that it's not.
90 likes@Disimagination how does that work when the state could have done the same thing with their stance on what happened? “Caylee was killed by her Casey and buried and you can’t prove this right or wrong.”
21 likes@Disimagination the state threw this whole case, honestly.
60 likes@Raems because that's not the law. The state cannot just make things up and say prove us wrong if they could they would literally be able to arrest anyone on the street and just make up what happened and say well you can't prove us wrong... That's why it's reversed and the burden of proof is on them i.e.
54 likesInnocent until proven guilty
@King King The evidence is she covered everything up and the only logical reason she would do what she did was to cover up her daughter's murder...Largely, the evidence is what we call "circumstantial," but it's still evidence and can be used to find someone guilty
15 likes@King King How can you see her case and say it could apply to absolutely everyone that gets arrested. Did you not watched the video? Are you not aware of how she behaved all along, all the evidence (circumstantial or not) against her? There might not be enough evidences to 100% prove her guilty, but she got out as if she had not taken part on that girl’s death.
7 likesThis is not a case of someone innocent because there are no evidences, but a guilty person with not enough evidences.
@Raems the state needs to prove beyond a reasonable doubt..... the defense just needs to provide a doubt
20 likes@DaviloX07 _ I was addressing only what was said in the specific comment I had responded to and nothing else. She's obviously guilty of either directly killing her child, assisting in the murder & cover up of her child, or extreme negligence & indifference to the death of her child. Either way I'm in no disagreement that she should be behind bars.
11 likesL LOL
0 likesWell the defense don't have any choice anyway
1 likeThe point is, it couldn't be proven whether someone drowned her, or whether it was an accident. (At least I believe that's what they mean)
3 likes@DaviloX07 _ It's better to let go 10 guilty people than jail one innocent. Simple as that.
3 likesThat's the point though..he's stating this is how she died....but it can never be proven
0 likes@YorhaUnit 8S That's about as far from "simple" as social philosophy gets.
0 likesI’m confused too, but not because of that. I think i did not understand something. Can you guys help me clarify something: when your daughter drowned in the family pool, you put the duck tape on her mouth and nose before or after the first aid measures ?
4 likesFact of the matter is there are no physical evidence that she murdered her daughter
0 likes@Hocane no but all the situations leads us to believe it's true, just as there's no physical evidence of racism in America in recent times yet it's all we hear about in the news
3 likesFlorida dude, Florida.
1 likeYeah , and if she was drowned in the pool,why she ended up with the duck tape at the mouth...???
3 likes@Raems because the burden of proof is on the prosecutors. It was possibly the only and smartest way to get a not guilty verdict.
1 likeSome Lawyers are the deepest of scum
0 likes@King King The state has made up a many of things on minorities. So I disagree with that part only.
0 likesYes, lies and contradictions.
0 likes@Disimagination If she died by drowning why was her face covered in duct tape?
2 likesYou see, Chewbacca is a wookiee from the planet Endor...
0 likes@crunch9876 They flat out lied. They know that baby didn't die by drowning - her face was covered in duct tape. Also her father vehemently denies the baby was in his care when she supposedly drowned. It has been proven she was entirely in her mothers care far away from their house - in another state in fact. And if it were true that Cailey died from drowning while in her grandfathers care, why wasn't he charged with negligence? Why did Casey lie about a non existent nanny which she couldn't afford to pay for anyway because she had no job?
1 likei don't like him either, but that is an absolute midwit take. the defense's job isn't to prove anything happened, only to prove something didn't happen. so when the defense makes a statement like that, it might as well be a hypothetical, but it doesn't matter since the defense isn't using that to press charges
0 likesIf she died by drowning she had to have some water in her lungs, right? It gotta came out in the autopsy she has found after 5 months of her death by then would the water in her lungs be gone?
0 likesIf the father was accused of molesting Casey when she was 8, why were no charges brought up against him? Some kind of legal loophole?
0 likes@AnAccountOnYoutube Everyone, guilty or innocent, deserves a lawyer. And one who puts their best foot forth at that.
0 likes@SouthAnnie Not enough evidence to arrest or charge. But it's doubtful that that even happened.
1 like@Raems the state has the burden of proof. The defense has to answer all the proof if there are any. Damn, the atty is good.
0 likesBut can't you tell if a person is downed or not??
0 likes@Hocane There is, why did she put tape on her mouth and nose if her daughter was already dead? That even makes less sense if she was drowned in a pool.
0 likes@beniolenio doesn't excuse lying. The lawyer is lying. That action is the same no matter who commits it. I didn't say all lawyers are bad. Ones that knowingly lie are liars. Judge that yourself.
0 likes@AnAccountOnYoutube how do you know the lawyer is knowingly lying? All they have to go on is what their client tells them.
1 like@beniolenio lawyers are smarter than the average youtube commenter. They arent as easily fooled as you. Especially defense lawyers.
0 likesOmg that lawyer, real life Better Call Saul. He's so smug at the end too. Insane skills though
0 likes😩😩😩
0 likes@Alexandar She is a free woman and not a threat to the society.
0 likesJust let it go man
@Hocane Well, thank God that people are not and shall not be judged and sentenced based on how big a threat they are to humanity.
0 likes@Alexandar I am a Christian man.
0 likesI believe in forgiveness and rehabilitation. Not just locking people up which won't fix the problem.
@Hocane And what about the baby she killed? The baby was not her property to do whatever she pleases to, the baby was part of society, system. So we are responsible for bringing her to justice. And it is also a matter of principle, we can't let people go unpunished for what they did because they can't it again.
0 likes@Hocane Removing the problem is the most efficient way of fixing it.
0 likes@Hocane You have freedom of speech, the current government system does not compromise your beliefs, you can try to rehabilitate and talk to criminals as much as you want. You can have Christian beliefs and still believe in justice.
0 likesYou weren’t paying attention close enough. His closing statement was mother didn’t kill child. Not that child didn’t drown
0 likes@Alexandar That's interesting because the countries with the softest penalty system and with greater focus on rehabilitation rather than punishment are the countries with the lowest crime rate.
0 likesCountries with the harshest penalty system generally have the highest crime rate.
@Hocane Wait, I'm starting to get the idea that you think that countries with a low crime rate have that crime low because their jails rehabilitated the whole population? Did you know that you are going to jail after you did the crime and not before?
0 likes@Hocane And countries with low crime per capita obviously can use more amount of money into better treatment.
0 likesBecause he is a great lawyer and he knows how to deal with a jury. He’s not the only one my spouse is exactly like that and I’ve seen him when very difficult murder cases. You’re innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. She’ll never betray it again because of double Jeopardy.
0 likesI don't like that damn lawyer
0 likesif the evidence doesn't directly link someone you can say "SHE DID IT" all you want but theres no physical proof. Innocent people have been put to death off of emotion verdicts and NO PROOF. You guys really want a system where anyone can shoot someone in the face then cry and point to someone and say they did it and everyone automatically believe the accuser??? You know how many innocent people would be convicted? You know how many trials there have been where people believe someone solely because they can relate with ethnics/gender or beliefs?
0 likes@AnAccountOnYoutube what did I say to make you think that I believe him? Lawyers must do their job. And if their client tells them something is true, regardless of their personal beliefs, they must take that at face value. You don't seem to understand how criminal defense works.
0 likesWow that's amazing
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