Your mention of Alicorns becoming associated with royalty, more specifically princesses, got me thinking: maybe she wasn't an Alicorn at all. Maybe the idea of all princesses being Alicorns is just so ingrained in Equestria's culture that the illustrator just assumed that if she was a princess then she must have also been an alicorn.
Seema logical, not sure if the whole thing is 100% a story, it started a holiday somehow! SO maybe that whole love potion thing did happen, and then when it was written into a book creative liberty was taken to make her an alicorn!! I have a real life thing to line this up with, The Lancaster Bunny by Mary Haylock! People outside of Hamilton may not know of this, but this stuffed bunny fell out of a plane and was lost for a few months, and it was made into a book!! However, names were changed and small details about where the family was from (Ireland-England) and who was on the plane (Just the dad- Dad+Daughter) So having a real life event, sort of story-fied isn't a thing that doesn't happen!!
A few related theories: A) What if Cadance's mother was the original Queen of the Crystal Ponies before Sombra's takeover? The Hearts and Hooves day could still be brought into play here, and Cadance was conceived either directly or shortly before Sombra's rise to power. This would explain why Cadance was chosen to rule over the Crystal Kingdom almost moments before it returned. B) Going off the "Queen Crystalise" theory about how she had been married to Sombra before he went dark. Once again, bringing to play the Hearts and Hooves day potion, what if they were the victims of this potion? The potion would've caused them to get together, bear a child, but something went wrong. Perhaps the potion's effects were broken, perhaps by Celestia, and Crystalise was enraged? She swore off love, left the Kingdom in anger, leaving her child behind and growing to despise it. She becomes the Queen of Changelings, effectively feeding off the emotion she hates. Then Sombra, a man who'd loved her, was corrupted by heartache when she left him. Celestia saves Cadance, the child born from this pair. Queen Crystalis overhears about the wedding, and goes not only for power but to also prevent her daughter from finding love in the same way she'd been forced into it? It would be poetic, using a "love" spell on Shining Armor to prevent Cadance, a child born from forced love, from being with her true love. This might also be why both Luna and Celestia didn't want to fight her since they were aware of why Crystalis became the way she did.
I have come to a conclusion to that question! It might have something to do with their talent with magic! The sisters have been around for a long time, so they've had experience with magic, and mistmane, if you remembered the story, went to the best magic school!
It is about magic. The more magic a pony has the the more wavy the hair that also explains how the powerful unicorn mistmane had flowing hair if I remember correctly and from the thing in season 9 where "grogar" explained through this visual thing about his lost bell it looked like gusty the great also had a flowing mane though that doesn't explain starswirl I think starswirl has loads of knowledge but isn't that powerful of a unicorn but yeah
Edit: and the fact that when Twilight gained all alicorn magic her hair wavy for a few seconds and cozy glow
umm in the final ep we saw twilight have wavy hair i think its that alacorns when they age their looks stay the same but their hair still fall out so the alacorns envented a spell to make their hair stay but it made it wavy. My answer. About mistmane she was the Princess of her home soooo she was royalty
@lakshita Dash it’s their power the more power the waver hair, the 3 princesses have wavy hair, because they are alicorn and have a lot of power as well as knowledge, but ur probs gonna be like, what about twilight, well Twilight is an alicorn, but she has spells yet to know, even she hasn’t mastered everything I mean even starlight’s more advanced, it’s also age influenced as well I’ve noticed, Twilight is still young as well as Cadence, the 2 sisters have been here over 1,000 years, and for starswirl, he’s not alicorn so he hasn’t got every ounce of magic yet, as for mistmane she was also on this earth for 1,000 years, she being unicorn was very knowledgeable, possibly even more than starswirl himself, actually creating beauty in the simplest of things, unlike rarity using a magic book that made her evil, but never mind that, her power was different, she created beauty, age must have also have had a part on this.
going back to starswirl I guess males don’t have wavy Manes & with cozy glow that was with alot of power creating a goddess.
True, but you see starswirl is older than them, he created most magic while still discovering more, and even he doesn’t have a flowing mane, he was possibly even older than mistmane but her mane was flowy, she only gave beauty & shared it, so how does starswirl the maker of most magic compare to mistmane?
I think it may have something to do with the amount of magic they possess because in the season 4 finales, when they gave their magic to twilight, their hair stop moving around!
There's no evidence of it😂..........wait😳nevermind i take my words back because if they're royal then they would also have experienced magic same goes for Twilight because she experienced magic that would make sense how it is possible to have wavy hair.
Maybe it’s Princess Amore/ Princess Amore’s daughter as Cadence is a descendant of Princess Amore. Princess Amore is the ruler of the crystal empire- empire of love
Fun fact: Cadance was actually once a Pegasus who earned her “horn” like Twilight was once a Unicorn that earned her Wings. This is mentioned in a book...I forget the name of it but it is cannon I believe.
@Raptor Zeraora Technically it's B canon, which means it is actually canon, though not in a way that would have ever been confirmed in the show. As such, it doesn't have to be part of the canon you follow. But, it is still an official work.
100th like time! Cadance was born a Pegasus, and in Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell, Cadance was said to be a baby Pegasus found alone in the woods by two ponies. The ponies raised her and I don’t know the rest I don’t have the book
Maybe Cadence was pegasus bc she took some genes from her mother and the half from her father, she have wings (before she was a princess) from her mother and had no horn bc of her father think about it
I think what everyone is forgetting is that Flurry is canonically stated to be the first ever "born alicorn" according to the princesses. The "earning her horn" story HAS to be true, or at least her earning alicornship somehow has to be.
Rarity calling blue blood celestia’s nephew was actually what started my head cannon of celestia and Luna having a younger brother. I have no proof for this, just a head cannon.
Alicorns were definitely known figures. During the episode “The Crystalling” Spike pulls out an old ceramic piece of pottery designed with the detailing of the Crystalling. There, we see that the male in the image (who we can assume is the father) and a female alicorn (who we can assume is the mother) holding a baby. In fact, we see two alicorns . One was the honored Crystaller while the other was probably the mother. While the designs make it clear this was meant to parallel the Mane Six as well as Cadence and Shining Armor, this pot was made before any of them, which makes you wonder if clairvoyance was involved somehow, although it wouldn’t make sense since Twilight didn’t even end up as the Crystaller by the end of the episode. Either way, just thought it was a detail worth pointing out
My theory is princess cadence is the two pony’s from the hearts and hooves day tale foal and her mother was one of few other alicorns, if not the only other allicorn. Remember when we were first introduced to cadence and queen chrysalis in the canterlot wedding? How did she know how to find princess cadence and steal her life? I don’t know if anyone else noticed but chrysalis seemed to act like she already knew who cadence and princess celestia were from the past. It could be that Cadences mom was queen chrysalis (she probably had a different name before) and she transformed into the opposite of what the love spell was intended to do. But I thought when a changing is reformed they turn into bugs so that can’t be true. But then I thought all of the other changelings are different than her. None of them have allicorn magic like her. This makes me think that if she were to be reformed she would turn back into a allicorn. Also in that episode where she steals her life, it seem that she has a unknown past with princess celestial by the way she approaches the situation. Just my theory, I think it makes more sense.
Those are some interesting ideas, Sawtooth! I especially liked your explanation for how some of the royals of Equestria's past could have become alicorns by being exposed to magic—perhaps love magic?—from all three pony tribes. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! ^_^ There are some odd details in "Hearts and Hooves Day" that might complicate your theory about other alicorns existing in Equestria. When I checked the MLP Wiki for the episode's image gallery, I saw that the illustration in Twilight's book featured a princess with no visible horn or wings when Twilight was showing it to the CMC, which seemed to indicate that she was an Earth pony princess. However, when Sweetie Belle was talking about the love poison, the illustration was different and showed an alicorn princess instead. Since no one refers to the princess as an alicorn within the episode, it's hard to tell which illustration was an error. However, I believe it would make more sense for the prince and princess to both be Earth ponies to parallel Big Mac and Cheerilee.
Do you think even when time’s passed, people would still be interested in reading fan stories & theories?? Also, why just because a show ended should all conversation be stopped about it? It’s almost like it’s ended so everything just... ends. But it shouldn’t be like that.
@I am Start over Yellow I know, but now that the show is over, with no new content/ clues to answer questions, most people have carried on and left the show behind. However, it still remains as an important part of their life :)
@deceitful dreams tecnicly the show in a way isant over g5 has been confirmed to take place in the same equestria g4 did just an unknown amount of time in the future so we could still get answers to some of these
@deceitful dreams i know it wont i think if they want g5 to be as good as g4 was then they should have hired lauren faust and the same writers back and kept the same animation style the 3d stuff doesnt look bad it just looks weird compared to g4
Ur theories are so interesting. There’s something I’ve always thought about. We’ve seen how Celestia and Luna would’ve been if they turned bad (like with nightmare moon and daybreaker) but what if the mane 6 were to turn bad? They solve so many problems that no one in equestria can solve by simply just being friends. There’s no doubt their extremely powerful, especially when they’re together. We’ve seen some of them individually turn ‘evil’ I guess (example: rarity in inspiration manifestation) but the 6 of them together represent friendship magic which is supposedly the most powerful magic of all according to the show. Not to mention they are connected to the elements of harmony which are also some of the most powerful artifacts in equestria. The power they hold is immense. So if the mane 6 were to all cohesively as a group team up and turn evil could anybody really stop them? It would be interesting to see and I wish they did something like that on mlp.(also I feel like their designs would look so cool if they were reformed to look evil I really wish the show did something like this)
I like to imagine that in the ancient past, there might have been more alicorns. Prehaps some "true" alicorns, as in being naturally born alicorns. It could explain some of the powerful magical relics in the world, such as the alicorn amulet. What became of these alicorns? Who knows?
Since the crystal empire was separated and had different history there could definitely be a family from there. The earth pony could also be a crystal pony since they may be confused.
but its easy to tell the difference, everypony knows. there is no confusing it, the geometrical shine in their eyes and the silkier hair and coat, they all have the same accents too
Just a thought, it correlates to the Sombra and Alicorn Amulet theories, maybe the reason why there aren't any other alicorns is that, instead of just ripping the magic from all three tribes, Sombra was actively hunting alicorns as soon as they ascended after he figured out how to steal their magic, and left the two sisters for last since they were the first ones? It would explain why there aren't anymore real alicorns except for the ones nowadays (Cadance likely being born right after the hunts, which would explain how she is smaller than the sisters but taller and slightly older than Twilight, and Twilight was very carefully selected and mostly during times of 'peace', as there really weren't hitches with her ceremony), the immense power the amulet seems to have, and if Sombra was an alicorn himself why he was so powerful, he was culling out any more competition before he was stopped, because while we see one can become powerful by stealing the magic from each of the tribes as with Tirek, stealing the magic from several alicorns as soon as possible would definitely be either just as or more effective, until someone stepped in and he was turned back into a regular unicorn and the magic, now too twisted, corrupt and concepts that likely shouldn't have mixed together (as different alicorns might have represented different things) couldn't be returned, and thus stayed static in the amulet before Trixie got it.
Or his official backstory could be the one from the comics, I don't know, it's all just a thought that sprang in my mind over coffee, no one will likely read this anyway XP
@♤Hisoka Morow♡ uhh if you're talking about the Fluttercord ship Fluttershy doesn't look 11 she looks older than that and even older in the series finale. I mean I respect that opinion of yours of course I'm just saying she looks older than 11
I disagree with the theory of that when you inject yourself with magic strong enough you can just become an alicorn. Cozy glow could become an alicorn, but not a real one like Twilight. When Cozy Glow was rid of all the magic she had gotten from the bell, she was returned to her pegasi form, whereas when Twilight lost all her magic (not friendship) through Tirek, she remained an alicorn. Cadence's Mother must have been the former Princess of Love, and she had to also have done something worthy to become an alicorn, just like how it was explained Cadence was not born a unicorn according to Celestia and Luna in The Crystalling.
I like the idea of the hearts & hooves day pony being cadence's mother. If we follow the belief that turning into an alicorn dosnt change one's DNA then that would mean cadence was born as a non-alicorn to an alicorn. This makes even more sense why everyone was soo surprized at flurry. Since every previously recorden birth from an alicorn has never resulted in another alicorn. Flurry is just the exception & I can explain her too: Cadence was pregnant with flurry in the crystal empire which soaks up 3-tribe power on a regular basis (like any holiday/festival/birthday/or evil-vanquishing event), plus the mother is already an alicorn & in a royal/leadership position which is exactly the position that earns the love & admiration of the people. Why isn't cadence's hair wavy yet? BECAUSE the baby was leaching 3-tribe/alicorn magic off her mother the entire pregnancy. Anyway, It's not hard to consider a jump to alicorn during development, it's as simple as why Riversong aka Melodypond from doctor who turned out to be a timelord when she was conceived in the presence of time vortex energy.
I hear you unlock her by completing all of Equestria with out any one dyeing, Collect all the hidden coins and clear the goal with all of the characters nd get all the secret goals. But other sources say she's under a cider wagon when you push it out of the way.
I think that there may be another kingdom or continent where the alicorns live because the map of Equestria only shows the kingdoms in the show and not the other parts of the world. I believe that Celestia and Luna were part of that ‘kingdom’. In the Journal of the Two Sisters, it says that there were other alicorns in the time of Celesia and Luna. We also know that StarSwirl trained the two main princesses so I believe that Celestia and Luna’s parents sent them to Equestria to learn magic and learn about the other ponies. However, I don’t think this was the only reason. We know that before Celestia and Luna came to Equestria, the three pony tribes were separated and thus the windagos came and were only stopped by the three tribes coming together. The tribes decided to make banners with their respected trait on it and create Equestria. The alicorns decided to send Celestia and Luna to help with stop the windagos because they recognized the potential threat and disharmony. We know that Celestia and Luna are mirrors of eachother. One with the power of light and the other with the power of darkness. I also believe that the alicorns sent the sisters is because the both represent very important things. Celestia representing warm, mentorship, maturity, and harmony while Luna represents cold, caringness, dreams, and harmony. There is harmony in the day but there is also harmony in the night. People could argue that the alicorns could have sent only one of the sisters or two completely different alicorns. We have seen what would have happened if there was only one sister ruling already. Nightmare Moon turned the world into a kingdom of darkness while DayBreaker would have most likely turned it into a world of fire. You can’t have light without darkness or darkness without light. That is why the alicorns sent Celestia and Luna. They were the two ponies that Equestria needed the most. The show has also shown of mirrors of a few characters such as Twilight and Cadance. Twilight has two mirrors. Sunset Shimmer, who wanted Celestia to pay for not being there for her and rejected her pleads to learn more magic and Trixie, who was so jealous of Twilight because she didn’t have any friends of her own and no one loved her. Cadance’s mirror is Chrysalis because Chrysalis was feeding on love and hurting the ponies who gave her love instead of sharing it and knowing what it actually means. I believe that the alicorns don’t need to send anyone else to Equestria because of how much it has evolved throughout the show and how much it is still evolving. The alicorns are still very mysterious and, as much as I want to know more about them, they should stay mysterious because it is more interesting that way.
The one thing you gotta take into account is that the hearts and hooves day story.. is a story. Stories of that nature that cause traditions tend to change over time. Take Santa for example, he wasn't always the white bearded man in red we all know now. Maybe the princess in the story wasn't an alicorn to start with but changed into one because of the two sisters. As we have seen only female ponies have been alicorns so the story could of been changed a little to fit in with the new royalty system. So she may have been an alicorn but maybe she wasn't! The story doesn't have enough details sadly and we don't get much history behind it. It's fun to speculate tho!
My theory is that Celestia made the unknown princess into a alicorn, and so the new princess decided one day that she would rule her own kingdom.
So she left Equestria and found the Horse Country, lacking order and monarchy, and despite only being a pony, she soon assumed control as their princess. And since parts of legends are lost to time, the stallion who fell in love with her was actually a horse.
And so when the Kindom fell, it never recovered, the horses scattered and most came to Equestria, interbred with some ponies and formed Saddle Arabia, but that doesn't mean that there aren't horses outside of Saddle Arabia, I actually think that Troubleshoes is a horse.
Anyway, the princess found herself ruler of a broken Kingdom, losing trust and control of her subjects and eventually followed in their hoofprints towards Equestria.
She could not face Celestia after failing her kingdom, so she stayed away, carrying a foal that would be born any day now.
Unfortunately she gave birth in the woods and died in the process, leaving baby Cadence with no hope of survival.
Fortunately she was found a few hours later by a group of earth-pony mares, probably some type of nuns or monks or something.
They took her in but found that caring for a pegasus foal was no easy feat as they had no wings themselves.
So, somehow news got to Celestia, probably from the news of the Horse Kingdoms downfall and the knowledge that the unknown princess was with foal, so she searched Equestria and eventually heard of Cadence, who looked almost exactly like her mother. So Celestia took the filly in, adopting her as a niece, where she was cared for by castle staff and council, eventually earning her alicorn title and becoming the princess we all know and love today.
I still need to work on the details more but this is the basic plot. :)
What if the Prince died and the princess of love lost all her love with his death. She then took on a new name, Chrisalis, and raised a army against Equestria. Why? She feels that her love was stolen by ponies, and wants to take it all back.
In general, there are 100 official comics and several books in which you can find out how the Princess Luna became the Nightmare Moon, and who really is King Sombra, and even how Cadance became an alicorn. Even on a simple Wikipedia, you can find information about how Princess Luna became the Nightmare Moon. I mean who helped her become Nightmare Moon.
This theory also makes sense for the upcoming G5 movie and series as there doesn't seem to be any alicorns in the modern setting (that we know of as yet, not ruling anything out), because the land has lost all it's magic that would influence a pony's potential to become one
Whomever that Alicorn princess was, chances are she was long gone and if she did turn out to be Cadence's mother that would certainly explain a lot, and it would also reveal a lot more about Cadence's origins (That's obvious i know but still)
Here is a question how does celestia match with being cadences aunt? And maybe because in that hearts and hooves day it said “a long time ago” that could probably be 1,000 years ago because celestia is probably over 1,000 years old wait maybe that could be your next vid how is celestia cadences moms sister or how old can alicorns really be like what is celestia 10,000 years old.
@Afghan Zindagi maybe they don't have any blood relation. Celestia could have just found Cadance and adopt her as her niece, especially because Luna is the only sister that Celestia has (or at least we know of) and she doesn't have any children.
U can't adopt somebody as a niece u could do it as a mother that's the only way but maybe her friends daughter and she was a niece because she were friends with her mother that she saves something like that.
I also think an alicorn relation of hers being the ruler of the Crystal Empire prior to Sombra's reign makes sense as there was no question as to Cadence's legitimacy and even treated as if she was known all along.
Or, the Prince died and the princess of love lost all her love with his death. She then took on a new name, Chrisalis, and raised a army against Equestria. Why? She feels that her love was stolen by ponies, and wants to take it all back.
Was cadence is a baby she founded in a forest by 2 Earth pony's in that case we don't get it who is cadence's mother ? but cadence's child time she is a Pegasus pony .
My question is are we factoring in the lore from the comics. I know Candance was actually a Pegasus before becoming an Alicorn and Celestia adopted her as her niece. I think she might of turned into an Alicorn shortly before babysitting Twilight. When Candance and Shining Armor were in school she was already an Alicorn.
I though that cadence, had an entire story in a book dedicated to just how she became an alicorn. How she was a Pegasus first who stood against another female pony who was trying to corrupt pony love,
I was sure the book was produced around the same time as season three... though I am not denying your theory...
My theory with the alicorns has always been that there are two tiers of alicorns you have the princess of kind where that's Luna Celestia and Twilight where they represent the concept of something and they are the only ones with the extra natural powers, royalty alicorn wouldn't have the longevity because they're not connected to a concept
I think the "side alicorns" were weaker alicorns. Every alicorn ages (Flurry Heart grew up, the sisters went to retirement), but more powerful alicorns (like Celestia and Luna) age more slowly. So I think the other alicorns simply died from old ages after a few hundred years.
I wouldn’t call this a theory, but just something I’ve noticed... Every alicorn we know about started out as a UNICORN and became an alicorn (except Flurry and unknown Cadence). Never has a PEGASUS or Earth Pony become an alicorn. I’ve been thinking, does this mean that unicorn magic can’t be given and must be born with? I mean, wings and strength seem to be able to be given, which makes sense. If this is the case, does Celestia know this? I mean, have you never questioned why she had a school for only talented UNICORNS, which is basically racist segregation in the MLP world? Maybe Celestia knows only unicorns can become alicorns? But let’s take this a bit farther... The wonder bolts. (If I’m wrong, I haven’t watched the show in a hot minute, give me a pass) Powerful and elite Pegasus’s chosen by royalty. What if the wonderbolts are failed ALICORNS-as in met all the requirements to be alicorns, but lack being born with unicorn magic-leaving them looking like normal Pegasus but with earth pony strength. Idk, I haven’t researched to prove or disprove anything. Feel free to comment anything that proves or disproves this, or just any feedback.
Celestia always hinted there were more Alicorns out there, especially when Flurry Heart was born. No one was born an Alicorn until Flurry Heart, they were created through "earning the right" like Twilight. So the story of another Alicorn Princess outside of the five makes sense even if the Hearts and Hooves Alicorn isn't Cadence's mom. Besides, the best we know about Cadence's family is that she's a niece of the Royal Sisters, hinting that they had siblings at one point. But considering their over +1000 age, Cadence is more likely adopted as a niece OR is descended from the unknown siblings of the Royal Sisters Or both.
Okay so hear me out… what if the secret alicorn is actually Celestia in her younger years… she did sound awfully experienced when she said that there had never been a naturally born alicorn… but here’s a new theory for you to explore, Is it possible that Celestia had a love life with someone and had a child herself? And if she did… with who? 🤔
I always headcannoned that Cadance is the reincarnation of the former Empress of the Crystal Empire (IE her cutiemark looking like the Crystal Heart) that was killed by Sombra during his take over. The alicorn from the story could in theory be the Crystal Empress in her youth. So in a way she's both is and isn't Cadance.
Here’s my thought: After Celesta and Luna became the new rulers, the other rulers didn’t get as much love and praise. So after years of this, their wings or horn was striped because they didn’t get this attention anymore. So they soon became average ponies.
Indeed this is very much a logical conclusion to the mystery, however, if we take this thought a step further, i believe that this is the direct point of origin for the Equestrian Noble and Aristocrat families...
They started out of nobles that held limited power over the populace of a specific region of Equestria, but as the princesses slowly became the figureheads of the nation, and power became centralised, they lost their power over their territories and thus the ability to continue their alicorn bloodline, giving birth to more generations of normal ponies of the usual 3 or 4 (if you count Batpony) tribes. This would also explain why Tia and Luna have never seen a naturally birthed Alicorn, they didnt get the chance to...
Yeah, and those small rulers now has been replaced with other kind from ponies, such as Prince Rutherford ruling over Yakyakistan, Dragon Lord Torch (now Ember) ruling over Dragon land, Chrysalis (now Thorax) ruling over Changeling Kingdom, etc. Mayor Mare, Shining Armor, Cadance, and Flurry Heart might be the only ponies who now only rule or become a leader of a small section of Equestria.
Actually this is a ponified mirror of our own history, the only difference is in our timeline, apart from the UK, the noble families just ended up becoming rich or normal families.
Whereas in Equestria, the noble (theoretically the Alicorn noble families that ruled over their own territories of Equestria) kept their families noble title and status but lost their ability to rule over their territories.
Back in medieval Europe this was the normal way to rule over territory, since communication and travel of the time, thus power projection and leadership, were extreamly costly and time consuming, it was better to subjicate your territory and have what are essentially smaller kingdoms that ruled under your crown in your own territroy. As communications and transportation improved, power became centralised and these smaller noble families ceased to exist...
However the lack of more castle or forts makes this an interesting subject... if this were the case we should expect to see far more ruins across equestria, unless the ponies used wooden castles up to the point the two sisters began using stone... that would explqin the lack of ruins, because without constant monitoring and upkeep the wooden forts would just break down into piles of wet cardboard...
And arguably- YES! THAT IS IT! The homes the noble families currently live in are in Canterlot, meaning that they must of moved to the capital to be nearer to the princesses! If that is the case, then their former castles must of been abandoned at somepoint, so the local townsponies may have deconstructed the stonework to build their villages, since worked stone is hideously expensive.
This is also plausible by the Chatau style homes the nobels live in, a Chatau bring a castle like mannor house with little to no defencive value at all. Its a statement of class wealth and social power.
@keth templar So are you implying Feudalism in Equestria hmmm
I guess the Crystal Empire is a fief? I Consider the Crsytal Empire either indepdendent Ally or a Vassal of Equestria, so either not a fief or fief
Also speaking of fiefs, are there any other feudal lords in equestria? Cuz i imagine equestria more of Absolutist than Feudal
Edit:Oh i realized yoh may also refer to past equestria Which i guess you mwan Equestria used to be Feudal but then Celestia and Luna took Absolute power And also maybe Yakyakistan, the Dragons, etc used to be/are still vassals
@Ulmer Videos yes, i was refering to an older equestria, but speaking of the Crystal empire, you bring up a valid point here!
When Celestia and Luna was gaining the centralised power of the country and forming a Diarchy, Sombra mayhaps didnt wish his kingdom to be ruled the way Celestia and luna wanted, afterall, a king knows whats best for his people, as the saying goes...
But despite how much he tried, he still lost the support of the majority of his subjects. Thus he reverted. Thus, the Alicorn amulet, and thus, the war with Equestria.
Change is the prime cause for resistance and thus war.
What if the Prince died and the princess of love lost all her love with his death. She then took on a new name, Chrisalis, and raised a army against Equestria. Why? She feels that her love was stolen by ponies, and wants to take it all back.
My theory is chrysalis and sombra ruled the empire together and sombra turned evil out of fear like Luna did when celestial was beaten she fled chrysalis turned evil out of fear but kept her rule and took the crystal pony’s with her then they became changelings forever till they were liberated and turned to a different form chrysalis could not because her heart ran on hate they starved all the time so it’s possible chrysalis and sombra were alicorns and if chrysalis did reform she would look different than a changeling mabey an alicorn like sombra would possibly as well
i think that because they became alicorns because they were exposed to the magic of other ponies, they didnt become permanant alicorns and possibly the magic faded after most ponies turned their attention to celestia and luna instead of these smaller royalties
In "The Crystalling" the vase Spike shows depicts both the mother and the crystaler as alicorns. I believe the story involved an alicorn from the Crystal Empire and a unicorn princefrom the unicorn kingdom (depicted in "Hearth's Warming Eve").
There are now 6 known Alicorns in Equestria Princess of the sun Princess of the moon Princess of love Princess of friendship Princess of light Princess of ?
Hey Sawtooth, could you do an episode on why, when the mane 6 turned the keys, transformed and defeated Tirek... When they transformed, everypony's mane got longer and was blowing in natural wind but ONLY Rainbow's mane colors were in motion as if she had alicorn magic. What's up with that???
Sawtooth there’s one person you haven’t described yet: Princess Amore. She was the ruler of the Crystal Empire before Cadence and Sombra turned her into a statue, broke her into a thousand pieces and scattered those pieces into the ends of Equestria. Then Radiant Hope would’ve become the next Unicorn ruler of the Crystal Empire, so what if it came to a Alicorn starting to rule the empire during Sombra’s spell that hid the Empire from the rest of Equestria? That could be possible. Don’t you agree? Not to mention little is known about Princess Amore apart from The Journal Of The Two Sisters book and My Little Pony: Frenimes graphic novel which shows the origins of King Sombra, Trek, The Sirens, Nightmare Moon and Queen Chrysalis. I would really suggest reading those two books as I have them both and they are really good reads. They also allowed me to open up to this exact theory that I have now that I watched this video and read those two books. Thanks so much for reading this! Bye!!
My personal headcanon about who the mysterious alicorn is, is that she IS Cadence's mother*, but more than that she is the mysterious Princess Amore (I think she may have been mentioned in the show once, but she was definitely mentioned in the comics.). If the alicorn is Princess Amore, it would explain why that one pony at the end of The Crystal Empire Part 2 exclaimed, "Behold, the Crystal Princess!" because Cadence was destined to rule after her mother's descent from the throne*. I do consider the books and comics to be canon to some extent, so I believe that in the book "Twilight and the Crystal Heart Spell", when Cadence was explaining that she grew up as an orphan in a remote village, that she had escaped the crystal empire somehow before Sombra took over.
*For reference, in the comics Princess Amore is turned to stone by Sombra, then destroyed. It is also up to debate whether or not Princess Amore is Cadence's mom or not, but Cadence WAS confirmed to be a direct descendant of Princess Amore.
I know this is going to sound crazy, but what if when alicorns fall in love, get married, and/or have foals, they loose their "immortality". Since they have longer lifespans than their spouses, they may have to, or just choose to, give up that long life span for a regular life span. As for what happened to all the royal families, I'm guessing they married into each others families, each time limiting the diversity of the different royal lines until there are just a couple left today. (I'm talking about Prince Blueblood). So if the Princess in this story is Cadence's mother, she probably died a while ago since she probably gave up her immortality.
Also, I think I finally now know what happened with Flurry heart and her window! We never see Shining Armor and Cadence in the future, and i think Flurry Heart took over for her mother. Because as the alicorn of love, Cadence would have a pretty hard time outliving her husband, unless she gave up her longer life span so she could be with Shining Armor, leaving Flurry heart to rule the Crystal empire.
Well, we know Flurry heart is the first alicorn to be born in Equestria. If there were other alicorns than those we know, their children would probably be alicorns too, so no alicorn had children before.
well the episode specified there was "something about a dragon,chaos reigning,kingdom falling" cuz the pair was "so in love" , i think it'd be interesting is the princess wasnt a alicorn,but the author of the book didnt know what she looked like and associated "princess" with alicorn,so they depicted her as a pony alicorn,but she could've been anything,or maybe the stallion could have been anything,nothing stated they were ponies, so its possible they were shown as ponies in the book because there were no records of their apperances,and the story was written down by a game of telephone,i dare say,one of them was a dragon,the other a something else,maybe their relationship gave birth to Discord? theres many ways to go with this edit: omg pony-washing
I see what you did there, but I have a much more simple theory: The princess in the story died... not from old age, but she was killed, or she lost her powers like Cozy.
She must've been Crystal Empire royalty, seeing as how Cadence was called "the crystal princess" and her crystal heart cutie mark and how Celestia was so sure she had to participate in the rebuilding of the empire when it came back. Why else would she have sent her, right?
Call me crazy but maybe, just maybe, the unicorn in the book is king sombra, and the alicorn is cadences mother. Maybe before sombra fully corrupted he tried strengthening the kingdom with the love spell resulting in cadence. But obviously the spell failed, the alicorn continued to raise cadence away from the crystal empire and lost her horn/wings. Since love basically failed sombra, he corrupted and did his whole thing that could be why everything was so harsh and loveless.
in the comics, cadence is confirmed to be an orphan pegasus and celestia raising her as her pupil and eventually turning her into an alicorn. But, there was another princess in the Crystal empire, during this. Her name was Princess Amore, and she was the former princess of love. but, during Sombra’s rule, he shattered the Crystal heart and turned Amore into stone, then hid her pieces across equestria. Sombra was only defeated by the two royal sisters trapping him so he couldn’t escape.
What if the Prince died and the princess of love lost all her love with his death. She then took on a new name, Chrisalis, and raised a army against Equestria. Why? She feels that her love was stolen by ponies, and wants to take it all back.
@katrena Neverwoods I always felt that King Sombra and Queen Chrysalis were the rulers of the crystal empire ( https://youtu.be/t2Mt-HuOWDY <----- why I feel this way) but your theory makes a lot of sense, with cadence not getting the love and praise of the 3 pony types she would lose her alicron magic...
How come Twilight never noticed there was an alicorn civilization on her map unless, there wasn’t one. In past videos you talked about an ancient civilization were Celestia and Luna came from showing how they got their magical flowing hair. But Twilight has a map of all of Equestria and the lands beyond, yet she still never noticed a blank spot where there might be a civilization.
speaking of alicorns, y’know what i never understood? why does human twilight get wings when she “ponies up” in “forgotten friendship” (2018) , but when she goes into equestria in “spring breakdown” (2019), she’s still a unicorn? i figured you’d have some thoughts about it, should you ever see this :) love your vids!
I think it's unlikely to be Cadance's mother, especially given that flurry heart was the cause of the direct genetics of an alicorn. The princesses clearly said that flurry was the first alicorn born naturally, so Cadance would also end up having the genetics of an alicorn mother, making her the first. unless... there is a chance in many that a baby will be born directly with the genetics of an alicorn...
oh boy i just answered myself-
My headcanon is that Cadance was sealed away by some villain or another soon after she ascended to alicornhood, and was freed by Celestia sometime before the Rainboom, which would explain why she appeared so much younger when she was babysitting Twilight.
I don’t think that there were more alicorns in equestria’s past, the association with royalty being due to the royal sisters rather than a prevalent alicorn royal class. The vestigial royals like Prince Blueblood are likely descendants of Princess Platinum, and not really related to the alicorn royals at all. I could see Celestia adopting Cadance as a niece after making her a princess, which would make the other ‘royals’ jealous, throwing a fit and forcing Celestia to adopt one (or more) of them as well to prevent conflict.
That being said, just because I don’t think there were more alicorns in ‘Equestria’s’ past doesn’t mean there weren’t more alicorns. Pre-Equestrian alicorns are definitely possible, and that’s an interesting idea on its own.
here's my theory: the princess in the book is indeed cadence's mother and i think blueblood's mother aswell. The thing is i also think that she is related to the royal sisters and i think she was their sister too but after the crystal empire was destroyed and in sombra's control, celestia and luna avoided any signs of relation between them and their other sister so that they wouldn't be caught in a scandal. Instead, celestia adopted cadenza, renamed her cadence and put her to training to be the ruler of the crystal empire in the future. I also think that cadence's mother, turned into a changeling aka chrysalis. And the reason Chrysalis steals love is because she never felt real love (cuz of the love potion the prince gave her) and that's my theory
@LegoDev yeah , which is what makes it so compelling , everyone gets the freedom to come up with their own theories, since they dialogues were so vague
@Tori If a lady gives birth to a baby on the moon, will it shock us that babies exist, just because one has never been born on the moon, before?
What is it, specifically, about Equestria that made it impossible for the mares pregnant with alicorn babies to give birth while inside Equestria's borders, until after crossing the border, leaving equestria? Is there some magical womb closing spell over Equestria that can detect alicorn babies? If so, why didn't they use that spell to seal Changeling wombs instead?
If we set off a nuclear bomb in Antarctica (something Antarctica has never seen before) and the resulting explosion conforms to the same laws of physics as we've seen when doing the same in other parts of the world, would yielding similar results be "beyond our understanding" or "no different than expected"?
No one has ever been shot with a shotgun in Antarctica, ever. Would you be willing to let someone point a loaded shotgun at you in Antarctica and pull the trigger? Is it unbelievable that a "first" can ever happen? Does the location have any impact on expected outcome?
@Icarus I disagree with your points! (Keep in mind I don't mean to be rude, I am writing all my theories is a friendly manner ) If , for example, there was a VERY incredibly tamed city , and the criminal rate , let's just say although impossible, was inexistent.
Then , if someone were to kill someone there, it would come across as very shocking, wouldn't we then say , that THIS CITY has NEVER seen a crime happen, that indicates that other cities do exist where this is quite normal
Also , if a lady gave birth to a baby in the moon , it wouldn't shock us that babies exist, but the baby would still be considered special as birth is something the moon has never seen (bad joke but we'll role with it)
IN THIS CASE , HOWEVER, it's even better. The baby born isn't a normal baby , it's a baby born with a crown. ( Since wings and a horn is tied so closely to royalty , this comparison is nit that far fetched)
Instead of HAVING to make someone royalty , Flurry was born as royalty. In this case, by 'royalty' I only mean people meant to rule , even though Flurry was born from and empress, who's to say her power was not going to be as useless as Prince Blueblood's ?
Even tho Prince Blueblood was born royalty, he is clearly not meant to rule, or has the capability to , because then Celestial would've never needed to seek a pupil elsewhere- by making a school.
So not everyone born in the royal family will get their own kingdom in Equestria , as being an ALICORN is something GIVEN to you AFTER you prove your worth.
But Flurry? She was already an ALICORN which indicates she is already born a ruler , by going by history that alicorns typically become rulers.
So if someone if born with a crown on their head , everyone would be surprised, since a crown is put on a person after they prove worthy of the throne.
Wouldn't everyone be shocked?
It's quite possible that celestia and luna were born alicorns , since The movement of the sun and the moon is extremely crucial, I think them being born royalty already is quite possible.
Thus , it's possible they were ONLY talking about Equestria.
@Tori Okay, a lot to unpack here. First, we look at Alanis Morrisette's incorrect definition of "ironic" (as opposed to coincidence). This is relevant to compare to the MLP statement.
An old man turned 98, won the lottery, and die the next day. This is a coincidence. There is nothing about winning the lottery that is proven to extend your lifespan.
A black fly in your chardonnay. That is bad luck. There is nothing about chardonnay that repels bugs.
A death row pardon two minutes too late. Again, bad luck. Getting a pardon isn't known to cause busy signals on the phone lines.
Rain on your wedding day. Is there something magical about weddings that cause the weather to become sunny? No.
Man afraid to fly, flies for the first time and the plane crashes. Bad luck. There was nothing about that plane that was ironic.
Now what are examples of true irony? A house that burns down because the fire alarm system caught on fire. Why is that ironic? Because fire alarms are supposed to warn you of fire, not create fire.
The Titanic, a ship specially designed to be unsinkable, actually sinking. This is ironic because it defies expectations.
Or as Weird Al put into his song Word Crimes, a fire truck on fire. That's ironic, because you'd expect a firetruck to have equipment on board to put out fires.
So as you can see, in order for expectations to exist, there must be some LINK between what is happening and what DEFIES logical expectation.
So if this is shocking that an Alicorn can be born in Equestria ONLY, there must be an expectation that Equestria somehow PREVENTS Alicorns from being born (and at the same time, lands OUTSIDE equestria for some reason ALLOW alicorns to be born). That Equestria's land is somehow MORE expected to never have an Alicorn birth than anywhere else in the world. Otherwise it is just coincidence/luck. No expectation/irony.
The fact that the land of equestria is no different than any other land when it comes to where babies are born proves it is not the LOCATION that is shocking, it is the ALICORN that is shocking.
Have you seen the TruGreen commercial where a UFO and aliens are standing in someone's yard and the neighbors are in shock and awe. The neighbors don't mention the aliens or the UFO. They are amazed of how green the lawn looks. This is what you are proposing. That they were in shock about Equestria and not the wings/horn.
If you give birth to an elephant and I say, "Wow, a human being giving birth to an elephant has never been seen on earth." That doesnt mean that humans are giving birth to elephants on Mars. It means that NO human being are giving birth to elephants, period.
Why did Celestia bring something irrelevant (the location, specifically Equestria) into the conversation? Because they speak as if Equestria is the whole world (much like how Americans are USA-centric in thought). Unless you can prove a link between locations and species born, then there can be no way to make the statement relevant. Why not say, "The birth of an alicorn is something never seen at this time on this day". Its true, Flurry was the only Alicorn in the world born at that minute/hour/day. Because that's a lame thing to point out! It shouldn't be shocking. It should be like "okay, that's oddly specific. So all Alicorns were born in other countries and this is the first and that's shocking? You knew she was pregnant and going to give birth, what did you expect? Was this really a surprise?"
Do you think when the europeans came to America, when the first european gave birth, that the other europeans were in shock saying, "The birth of a non-native is something this land has NEVER seen before! How could this be possible?!" No, they were like, "this is the billionth baby being born, and its being born in a place, just like every other baby is."
Just explain ONE thing to me. What is it that is specifically about the territory called EQUESTRIA that does not allow Alicorn births (that does NOT apply to ANY OTHER LAND which ARE allowed alicorn births)? What is DIFFERENT about equestria that PREVENTS the birth of alicorns? Would Celestia have still be shocked if Cadence happened to go into labor during a visit to the Dragonlands?
Maybe Grogar put a curse on the land of Equestria that all Alicorns born within the territory called Equestria would be stillborn and dead. And somehow, Flurry defied the curse and shocked them by being ALIVE. And they were shocked that somehow she expectantly dodged the bullet. But then, why wouldn't Cadence leave the cursed land of Equestria to give birth in a neighboring land?
@Tori Oh yes, Luna and Celestia born Alicorns because of the need to move the sun and moon? Its established that a group of unicorns (including starswirl) were doing that BEFORE Celestia/Luna. So there was no rush.
Also, Rarity stated that she thought that an alicorn was formed when accomplishing a princess-worthy deed. Why didn't Celestia say, "No, Rarity, Luna and I were born alicorns and we didn't need to do a princess-worthy deed."? They just agreed with Rarity. Even Applejack questions how a baby can be born with a horn and wings. So every line solidifies that Flurry is the ONLY alicorn ever born in existence.
Rarity: But... But... But I thought Alicorn wings had to be earned by accomplishing some great, princess-worthy deed! Applejack: Yeah. How can you just be born with 'em? Princess Celestia: The birth of an Alicorn is something Equestria has never seen! Princess Luna: It is beyond even our understanding.
Notice how Rarity/Applejack/Luna/Celestia never mention the "Equestria Territorial Alicorn Abortion Spell" failing for the first time. It's because there's no magical explanation why Alicorn births are banned ONLY in Equestria, specifically.
@Icaruslisten , I read your comment , but let me tell you something
I love having discussions about theories other people have , and I like comparing our opinions and examples.
But for some reason it doesn't seem you are listening to what I am saying, rather it seems you would rather 'debunk' my points, than comparing them so we can reach a common ground-
I know you can't convey tone through texts, but for some reason I am feeling uncomfortable replying to you , I hope it's not offensive to you that I am leaving mid conversation, thankyou
@Tori No, I am not shocked or surprised that you are leaving, and even though someone named kawaiimochi leaving a conversation on March 28, 2021 is something that YouTube has never seen, it is NOT beyond my understanding.
@Icarus but you are confusing cutie marks with alicorns now.
I am not sure whether Celestia and Luna were born alicorns or not because I don't have much evidence and haven't read their diaries, but what I do know is that they became rulers AFTER they earned their cutie marks .
A princess worthy deed , wouldn't that be moving the sun and the moon? The 5 unicorns were low key dying doing it everyday , and Celestia and Luna had a great affinity for magic and moving sung and moon , so I think I would consider that the great deal.
But then that leaves you jnto the rabbit hole of : if they weren't born alicorns , who made them the ALICORN ?
If they could ALREADY move the sun and the moon even as a unicorn , why did they need to become an ALICORN in the first place ?
So personally , ofcourse, I like to imagine they were born alicorns . Why else would other people even humour them if they weren't born royalty?
If a random foal comes to you saying they can life the SUN that take 5 magically skilled unicorns to do so , no one would believe them or give them the chance .
If they were princeses however , I believe something like this happened : that celestia and luna, being skilled at magic , thought to lend the 5 unicorns a hand , but then when they did so , found out that they can even do it themselves, thus getting their cutie marks .
Although there are many holes in this story
For example, why did they get involved in the first place? Or is it possible they figured it out before they helped the 5 unicorns? How do you even figure out you can move the LITERAL SUN?
So it's just my headcannon , unless I get more Materials I can't form a well cut out theory
@Icarus yes 💕 because attacking my decision to leave a conversation that was going nowhere REALLY proves your point and makes my points feel valid and respected! I am proud to have already figured out a toxic person to compare theories to , good thing I didn't take your words to heart. I am gonna go find someone respectful who understands how theories works . 🦋🦋🦋
Five unicorns combined could barely move the sun/moon. Then two unicorns not only individually did each task ALONE, but they did it with ease. So perhaps let's say Celestia contain 100x the sun raising capability of each of the 5 unicorns (and the same goes for Luna with the moon).
In other words, Luna and Celestia were not each just the power of 5 unicorns combined, otherwise, they'd be straining to do the task. No, by being 100x more powerful, they could accomplish it without strain. That would give them their cutie marks and MAYBE turn them into alicorns at the same time (or that probably happened later with a princess worthy deed). It was already established that unicorns were in charge of raising the sun/moon, so two new unicorns getting hired in would just be retirees replacing themselves.
As for who allowed them or gave them permission? Would YOU be able to stop them the first time they got the whim to attempt it? It's not like there's a permission form or permit that they'd have to get. Look at the burst of power Twilight showed when she got her cutie mark, hatched Spike's egg and made him grow huge. Who gave HER permission to do that? No one. It just happened unexpectedly, without anyone's permission. How did Celestia/Luna find out that they could move the moon/sun? How did Twilight find out she could make a baby dragon grow huge? By accident.
I still say it is impossible for an alicorn to be born because Applejack outright stated it and Celestia/Luna didn't correct it.
Applejack didn't use the "in Equestria" qualifier and she spoke BEFORE Celestia said it.
@Tori Your "theory" contradicts the canon of the show. Is it "respectful" to just throw away the canon?
Okay, I theorize that dragons can't get wings. If you disagree then you are being disrespectful and toxic. If you present evidence from the show contrary then you are just trying to disprove my point instead of listening and comparing theories.
@Icarus I did provide examples tho?I was simply referring to your examples and interpreting them because that's how literature wor- nvm I theorize I shouldn't have a discussion with someone who obviously just wants to be in the right XD
OMG YOU are right!!! Your theories are perfect and people that interpret certain dialogues differently than you are disrespectful ✋😌
You're literally so perfect 😻 bestie ily and I wish I was as perfect and breathtakingly intelligent and you so I could tell the difference between conclusing and theorising , Anyway you're perfect now be happy and leave me tf alone
@Icarus if that's what your headcannon is , I respect it and believe you should be able to think like that. I respect how you interpreted their words , and if that theory makes the most sense to you , that's awesome. Even if you don't believe the same for me , I am going to leave it at that
@Tori My interpretation is that the birth of an Alicorn is something that equestria has never SEEN is because every pony present at Celestia's and Luna's births had their eyes poked out. That's why it wasn't SEEN.
@Tori Wait you said I'm "ACTING" pathetic. Acting is fake, it's what an ACTOR does. So an actor, in real life, is not the same as whatever they are ACTING like.
So you are saying that, I, the person behind the acting, am NOT pathetic.
@Icarus Why is everyone overlooking the fact that Cadence gave birth in the Crystal Empire*? Which is *outside Equestria. What Celestia said doesn't make any sense.
@Tori Maybe because Celestia and Luna were so young when this Alicorn Royalty happened and when they were the only ones to raise the sun and moon with no difficulty (they probably also faught many villains as Crystalist knew Celestia was very powerful) People might have realized they were Meant to rule alone and all current Alicorns probably lost there magic.
@Icarus that's not the map of equestria. If you notice that map also includes Klugetown , Seaquestria and yakyakistan and also everfree forest. Equestria is a KINGDOM , Crystal empire is an EMPIRE , not the same thing
@Icarus can you stop attacking people and feeling like you are the only one who is right? That's all I am asking . And if your reply to this comment is something "Well technically acting is done by an actor" or amy other stupid argument like that , I'd prefer you don't partake in this argument. There are two others who are just as interested in this thread , and are not being jerks.
@Tori can you stop attacking me for disagreeing with you? Can you stop acting like you are right and the writers of the show are wrong? Jeez. It looks like Flurry isn't the only baby.
@Icarus I never attacked you? I even said I respected your theory? Also you just did it again . I hope you get through whatever is making you hate on people for no reason , stay strong
@IcarusI'll only continue this conversation IF you promise to be mindful of your words , or if you open your mind to new theories. You need to realise that the dialogues were these vague so that we can come to our own conclusions, we don't have to stick with the status quo.
Why are the ponies all serious, stern and somber when they show their surprise? Even frowning?
If they received the positive surprise of the century, wouldn't Celestia and Luna be like, "YES! Equestria finally got its first alicorn!" and be smiling, and every pony hoof bumping and celebrating that they've finally caught up with the rest of the world?
Kind of like a smiling, clapping Kim Jong Un, celebrating North Korea's first working missile bringing them out of the 3rd world?
Instead, they look like they are all concerned, or worried because the news has destroyed and turned their understanding of the universe upside down. They are instead treating Flurry's birth like it is Equestria's first case of COVID.
@Tori And yet Flurry was born in the Crystal Empire, NOT Equestria. So you would think one of the older Crystal Ponies might be able to shed some light on the subject, or one of the ancient books in the libraries?? The fact that it's never brought up from an Equestria vs the rest of the world needs to be explored.
I love all the fanfics who show Luna and Celestia with their mother, showing the Alicorns as a fourth pony type that had been eradicated aside from Luna and Celestia. HOWEVER, it's been proven they were MADE Alicorns by saving the 6 mages who were once the bringers of the sun and moon, and how the girls got their cutie marks, by taking over for them and thus becoming the first Alicorns (Canon). Cadence may have become an Alicorn very early in her life, as Twilight had....maybe even earlier. Which would truly make Flurry a special case, perhaps her Alicorn magic could overtake the other 4 princesses in strength, and so she was born already. Plus with her ability trait so comparable to her mother's, it was probably Canice's and Shining's love that caused her to be an Alicorn at birth.
cause equestria didnt exist yet. equestria is one place. alicorns happened outside of equestria often in the past it just seemed equstria had never had one.
@Mark Erikson The books Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell and Princess Cadance and the Spring Hearts Garden and Amy Keating Rogers state that Cadance was born a Pegasus and became an Alicorn later.
Heyy, Sawtooth Waves! What do you think of idea of making a video about Gusty the Great? It's an INCREDIBLY interesting theme to reflex on.
In other theory of yours (about Grogar's previous being as the constellation) you did use much information about Gusty. Then we have found out that she was not only more powerful than the Alicorn Sisters and all the alicorns, but also more powerful than the f**King Elements! That's un-be-lievable. And she was just a unicorn! Or not? We have seen she possessed a really weird form and looked like Shadow Pony. But Gusty was kind. And even Shadow Pony was much less powerful than Gusty.
I just have no suggestions about that and it'd be awesome if you made the video with your thoughts.
Now that you mentioned Prince Blue Blood, I came up with an idea. What if Cadence was the princess and Blue Blood the prince in the story just like you said on the previous video about Cadence's past?
no, she's a normal unciorn. we see her in the comics. she was the last ruler of the cystal empire before sombras attack. we see him "kill" her in the comics during sombras origin comics/
Anyway, whoever the princess is, she must be related to Cadence. Here’s some tips that might help you figure out and post ‘ Finally solving Alicorn princess.’ 1. I think that Cadence would have just past the arguing people, but instead, she used her magic. It’s a waste when you need it for something more important. I think the Mayor was the one who gave her the guilty-ness so she used her magic. 2. Maybe the potion contains Cadence’s cells, which caused her birth. The Mayor could have been inside the whole mystery, and she might be Cadence’s cousin or something. She also could be the Alicorn Princess’s friend (or something connected to the Princess, at least!).Then, her parents told her about the mistake, and she felt sorry for her relative mayor. All this I’ve said, is just that I think the Mayor has something to do with this. Hope it’s helped you!😘
P.S: I love your subjects for your mystery.❤️🧡💛💚💙💜❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
It could also be that, like most fairytales this one was also first spread verbally. Later it was written in a book and illustrated. Because by that time the idea of royalty=alicorn was so prominent the princess was drawn as an alicorn.
Is it Cadence's mother? Like you said at the beginning maybe it is passed down in DNA but differently to make people's relationships fixed or make people in love? It's a mystery.
This is so interesting, because if Cadance was the two’s daughter than that means she was conceived under a love potion, and we saw how that turned out with You-Know-Who 😂
Hold the phone If blue blood is Celestia’s nephew and in this theory Candence is Celestia’s niece... Who would be their parents? Are they siblings? Is Luna Blue Blood’s mom? Is there another Royal sister?
Ikr i akways question this there must be another sibling to celestia and Luna whether they are alicorn ir not but we are never informed about it unless they died. However u did read that blue blood us a decent of Princess platinum and was adopted by celestia like cadence
Bo Braekevelt2021-05-21 16:59:37 (edited 2021-05-21 17:01:58 )
@Shahida's Kitchen time! actually I went deep into the wiki of mlp and they had both a sister and a brother, the sister being like a snow sister named Princess Ingrid and the oldest one, she turned evil. and they also had a brother called Orion. Snowflake is Princess Ingrids daughter. Cadence is the granddaughter of Orion so actually related to them and its no where told what happend to Orion. and the weird thing is prince Blue blood isn’t related to them, so he’s a prince from a different royal family which makes this theorie video even more likely to be true.
@Bo Braekevelt thats interesting ive never knew thnx for telling me Most if my info comes from the show its self and stuff its from there we never were inroduced tk any if these ponies so i never knew that there were more to the family Even through we were never introduced to her father apparently they were going to introduce him in the my little pony the movie hen they changed him into heinf tempest shadow
@Bo Braekevelt ive never read the comics and im prettu sure she is "cannon " her actual appearance was never shown but history of her is true when the mane six held the play where they represented the founders of equestria she was the ruler of unicorn and i cant remeber but there was this whole theory on smthing and in it it mentioned that her father was supposed to attend that meeting but wasnt able to she went
Cadence is Celestia's theoretical neice because they said that Celestia adopted Cadence as her neice, she could have done the same for Blue Blood. But still, family is family, wherever you come from
Cadence became an alicorn after defeating an evil pony named prisma. Here is the excerpt saying so from the wiki. It comes from a chapter book.
Chapter books
Princess Cadance is featured in the chapter book Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell. The book tells the story of Twilight Sparkle after she'd been made an Alicorn and seeks advice on being a princess. She turns to Cadance, who tells her life story, how as a baby Pegasus she was found in the woods by Earth ponies, who took her to their village. When she grew up she reversed a love-stealing spell cast by a pony called Prismia. Prismia wore a magic-enhancing necklace that amplified her evil and jealousy, but when Cadance confronted her, the necklace amplified Cadance's love. Once Prismia changed her horrible ways, Cadance was surrounded by magical energy and transported to a strange place where she met Celestia, who adopted her as her royal niece.
Queen Chrysalis was probably that princess, she may have once been very beautiful, and maybe since she fell in love through alternate means and not by true feelings she transformed into a Changeling after believing that love through true methods was a farce and force was the only option. The reason she was depicted as a pony was likely a coverup since I don't think ponies would like the fact that the Changeling queen is where Hearts and Hooves day originated.
If the princess in the story is Cadance, then the kingdom that fell to its downfall is probably The Crystal Empire, when it was being ruled by King Sombra
My two cents: The Crystal Empire isn't part of Equestria. Its an independent nation, separate from Equestria. Or at least, it was before it vanished. Now in modern times, its ben annexed into Equestria but still has Cadence as a figurehead
I think that it's an entirely different alicorn. I think that it might be someone from cadence's family tree. I mean,it is easy to see those two related since they both have something to do with love like the theory you just said and you also explained how cadence would be celestia's niece. The reason in my head why we don't know about this alicorn could be because she was present a long time ago and that their next generations weren't alicorns. What if after the royal sister's started ruling the other royals started losing their power and purpose and didn't really get that much attention (by power I mean their ability to do something in equestria as they were royalty). As they didn't get much attention their families wouldn't become alicorns. And that may be the reason we don't know about this particular alicorn. But I'm not sure about cadence being related to this mystery alicorn.
Or our mystery alicorn is a changeling.
(P.S. I am using someone else's phone so don't ask questions about that.)
The salt is real! My little pony had so much potential for older-age audience style lore/content that was left unsaid because the show was mainly catered towards younger children. Sawtooth does a very good job at theorizing what they left unsaid and I personally accept most of his theories. I feel that just because it's a cartoon about magic doesn't mean that Hasbro should've only catered to young kids, most people who had watched the older generation of mlp are now older (like me, I'm only 19 but I watched older gens because my mom introduced them to me) and would probably watch reboot/new gen just because they had previously enjoyed it. Steven Universe has a likehood to mlp in some sort because it's a animated cartoon about magic and it's definitely NOT for young children!
I think that the Alicorn Princess from that story was Cadence’s mother. Here’s how my story of the theory goes. Long, long ago a unicorn princess was crowned, ruler of her kingdom. The ponies poured their loyalty and love and it absorbed into the princess turning her into an alicorn. Not long after a prince made a love potion for this princess and decided to use it on her. He took her out for a night and they drank the potion. The spell worked and they had a foal named Princess Cadence. The couple had become so tangled up in each other that they forgot about their duties and the kingdom fell apart. Cadence’s mother came out to address the crowd about the kingdom, but their hatred had grown for the princess that dragged them down. The alicorn magic was pulled away from her, transforming her back into a unicorn. This has broken the love spell due to it being mixed with her alicorn magic. The princess ran away in shame and the prince shortly vanished after. Cadence was too young to rule so the ponies fled and split up to Canterlot, PonyVille, and CloudsDale where they remained happily.
So yeah that’s my theory on what happened. Short version is basically some princess turns into an alicorn, gets a spell put on her by a prince, kingdom falls apart, child is too young to rule, they split up, yeah.
I saw a comment saying 'She must've been Crystal Empire royalty, seeing as how Cadence was called "the crystal princess" and her crystal heart cutie mark and how Celestia was so sure she had to participate in the rebuilding of the empire when it came back. Why else would she have sent her, right' now when Sawtooth said what happened to her I started to wonder and finally came to a conclusion maybe when Sombra took over the mother and the father would have had to give out all of her power to Sombra but they wouldn't give up so easily they took the power of the crystal ponies and from into a heart and hide or put candace into some village where the rest of the story from the book takes place. I hope Sawtooth you notice this comment.
Anyone else think Queen of the changeling herself would be this pony? That would help explain their change in look when giving love. This could possibly answer why some pony is so focused on the Crystal Empire.
I don't think Cadence is that old. In the flashback, we see that she looks just like a regular pegasus but with a horn in terms of her size and structure. In the present, her wingtips started turning purple, her horn was longer and pointier, and her facial structure started flattening out like Celestia and Luna's. Her wings were also longer and pointer when folded. She was larger too. She is about the same size as Shining Armor and he is bigger than Twilight and Cadence looked about the same size Twilight was in that episode in the flashback. What's more, in the final season we see Twilight presumably fully grown. This is far enough in the future that all her friends are getting old. They aren't as old as Granny Smith but they aren't young. Twilight is about the same size as Celestia in that episode. You could argue that Luna was smaller than Celestia so Cadence's full size could be similar, but you can see that she is still noticeably smaller than Luna and her face was more like that of a regular pony. I think if we saw Cadence in the final episode, she would have the same size and shape as Luna at least, maybe the same as Celestia and Twilight. I think that Cadence became an alicorn no more than a few years before Twilight was born. There is still a possibility that she is older or related to the pony in the myth, but I think it unlikely.
Hey Sawtooth I have a video idea! its about a question I always had
Why does Mist mane have wavy hair?
I mean Star swirl does not have it and I always thought it was because they had great power or you could get it for being a alicorn but Mist mane it probably not as powerful as Star swirl and she is just a unicorn. Its something I always had a question about so I decided to ask you. :)
I’d kinda like to think that twilight is chilling somewhere on vacation. I know that there’s like 0 chance that that’s the actual reality but I personally find that if it were true and the gen 5 ponies found her, it would be entertaining.
It could have been where there used to be many alicorns but since of an alicorn falling under that big of a spell clestea could have took control and pretended that it never Happened and that’s why Celestia said that a birth of an alicorn they have never seen and cadence could of been to young to remember her mother.
Something weird that I’m now noticing is that since prince blue blood is celestial nephew wouldn’t that mean celestia has a sibling we haven’t met yet?
One question... If the small branches of royals became alicorns because they received admiration and praise from the 3 types of magic, then shouldn't a famous pony, say countess coloratura, also be an alicorn?
Is Blue Blood actually Celestia's nephew? The only one I remember mentioning it is Rarity during her fantasising about finding her then unnamed prince charming, but that was long before she actually met him.
I feel like royal families were a pre-Equestrian thing. In many of the ancient legends we hear, which all take place around the same time, there are different royals. Princesses, princes, empresses, pharoahs, etc.
I believe that the leadership of Maretonia are all alicorns. The only two we see in the show are completely covered up with robes and wearing elaborate hats that could easily conceal their wings and horns.
I had a question about wallflower in forgotten friendship I was wondering why she was specifically mad at sunset she could have been mad at everyone couldn't she why just sunset it's like sunset had done sth personal but sunset took power of the whole school nothing personal it affected everyone it didn't make sense so when I heard the song invisible a line piqued my interest "a memory forgotten" when we saw the flashbacks they only showed after sunset came everywhere it sounded like they'd never known wallflower but then that line should have been sth else I was thinking if ppl did know her but then when sunset came she became more popular so much that wallflower was no longer noticed that would be rather personal especially to her ego
I have an idea for your next video: Cadence the bringer of destruction/fall of the crystal empire How old is cadence? Think about it, she has the crystal heart as her cutiemark yet the crystal empire was gone up until season 3, so she had to have been around before the crystal empire vanished. We also know that cadence was not banished along with the crystal ponies because she babysat twilight. She was an alicorn as far back as we can see and we know they age differently; so we she could be way older than we thought. Is it possible that cadence is a crystal pony & that when king Sombra turned bad Cadence is the one that asked the princesses to save the crystal empire? The other theory on the changelings cohabitating in the crystal empire also makes sense because when queen chrysalis was posing as cadence for the royal wedding Cadence seemed to be the one that already knew the most about them. (also Celestia, because she knew queen chrysalis' name before she had to be introduced.) I would make a lot of sense if the princess of "love" earned her alicorn status (by creating a new type of magic "love is magic") in a society where love is an integral part of existing: the light and love charges the crystal heart, and the love that the changelings use. But wait! is it possible that the princess worthy deed that cadence did to become an alicorn was put the crystal heart system in place? Think about it. If the empire previously used a different system of keeping the winter at bay and it failed, then an extraordinary young unicorn who had just realized that love is a magic strong enough to keep the winter at bay. She carved a large crystal into the symbol of love and instructed the panicking ponies that this would work and to be strong for the ponies that they cared about. They could already see how the power their love fed the changelings. Cadence performs a love spell on the crystal heart turning it into a vessel for the strength of love that that the ponies had for each other and the cold wind of the north are blasted back. Cadence floats into the sky be magic not her own and vanished into another realm where she meets celestia for the first time. She gets her wings and reappears in front of the crystal ponies as an alicorn (and perhaps earning her cutiemark at the same time). The ponies celebrate and declare this young pony Cadence is worthy of becoming their leader someday. This puts king sombra's position at risk. But, he has bigger things to worry about: the crystal heart system seems to be working well but Sombra sees a problem. The changelings apatite for love is now a problem because the empire now runs off of love. If the changlings grow in numbers or if their apatite increases it will put the empire at risk. There is only one thing to do banish the changelings. (If my theory is correct: the mere presence of Cadence is the reason the crystal empire fell and why the changelings turned bad. Although chrysalis didn't seem to be hold any particular grudge against sombra when grogar brought them all together, maybe because cadence had a more direct hand in their banishment.) After all this it would make sense why no one bothers to mention her past, she didn't even tell twilight. Why would she? Its even worse than (more embarrassing) than starlight's past. Think about it; her becoming an alicorn the symbol of leadership caused sombra's corruption (though it may not have changed the outcome for the changelings). This is an example of Starswirl's alicorn creation system causing negative results. If she had not become an alicorn she would simply have become something of a hero to the people as spike did & even more important not a threat to Sombra's position (especially if he wasn't an alicorn. This could've lead to him seeking different means to appear more powerful to the people to solidify his position, via the alicorn amulet that corrupts anyone who wears it)
I am bigger on the theory that cadence is the daughter that came about because of the love potion. It would also help explain how cadence could have been twilight’s babysitter when she was still a Philly. As well as why her magic almost seems to be like a love potion. But this also carries the larger implication that when a potion or spell is used on somepony, the spell or potions affect can actually carry over to their offspring almost like a genetic trait if you will. This would also explain why flurry heart was born an Alicorn.
I think the Alicorn under the spell was Luna! She had a sister, and keep in mind, prince blueblood, if I remember correctly, is celestia's nephew, so maybe Luna gave birth to prince blueblood, who did the love spell on Cadence! CADNECE is Celestia's adoptive daughter/nice, right?
What if it's Cozy Glow breaking free from stone, becoming an alicorn again, and going back in time? Wait, no. That's waaay to complicated for ANY cartoon
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Night Horse2021-03-27 10:37:09 (edited 2021-03-27 10:38:58 )
Wasn't it confirmed in one of the comics that her mother was princess Amour? Or it's just my own headcannon? She was the ruler of the Crystal Empire and I think Sombra killed her.
Her name means love and Cadence is the princess of love. And in the first episode we meet Cadence we learn her full name: Mi Amour Cadence. Edit: And the crystal ponies call her the crystal princess
I think it very well could be Cadence's mother even though I've never really seen or heard anything offer Hearts and Hooves Day and The Love Potion bottle wrong what a bluebird really is the descendants of Katy flurry heart Blue Bloods granddaughter
what did you use to do that flower peddle shower animation cycle? I am guessing blender but is there a specific tutorial that allows a seamless continuation of the cycle without rendering the whole length of the video?
I love how he makes theory's on stuff nobody pays attention too. Also what if it was princess skyla? ... Ya know. That toy back in 2010. That most people forgot about
@Samantha Freeman actually there was never a toy version of Nyx. Nyx is the main character of a reallly well known mlp fanfic written way back. Like when season 3 wasn’t even out yet. Sure a lot of people must of done merch about nyx. But none of them are canon or from Hasbro.
@Samantha Freeman I think the fans thought it was Cadence and Shining's child. Tbh the colors doesn't match up, Flurry's colors match better to her parents but then again, maybe that's why they redesign Skyla to Flurry Heart. Maybe its possible that Princess Amore is related to Cadence (i never read the comics, i guess i'd be wrong) Maybe Amore is Cadence's aunt and Skyla is the sister of Amore and mother of Cadence, maybe thats connected to Cadence's cutie mark, its a heart because it represents love like her mom's past/magic or her dad's magic (the magic potion) and the heart is crystal because it represents the crystal heart like her aunt. This is a theory and i could be wrong.
there never was an alicorn in the story. it was just 2 unicorns. but when it was written up as a fairytale story the spell used was properly written down but the story itself was sensatinalized to be about "an alicorn princess" when it was probably a unicorn princess
there is one ruler that could have a connection to the story, and its true we've never seen her..... in the show. within the comics theres a unicorn who resembles celestia in stature and was the previous ruler of the crystal empire before the whole.... sombra thing. xD she's from the comics and her name was princess amore. she's from the comics. another potential character couldve been radiant hope who was also in the comics. thats just speculation though. idk how cannon the comics are.
I had something in mind, Where is Cadance at the end??? We didn't see her anywhere in the future in the last episode, The glass stain showed Flurry Heart but nothing related to Cadence was showed in the whole episode! Tell me that!
Doesn't the Hearts and Hooves day story just mention "a princess?" Maybe whoever illustrated the book was using artistic license, and rather than depicting real individuals, they're depicting what the general population would imagine when they thought of a prince or princess. Since the most recognisable princess in the land was Celestia, of course the depicted princess would be an alicorn. It probably has nothing to do with Cadance. Probably. I like your theory too though!😊
It's possible that a type of disease killed off the alicorn population, which would explain why they are more scarce. And only powerful unicorns and alicorns can make more alicorns (either through a spell or breeding as seen with flurry) so it's possible that disease happened when more creatures/ponies lived together, kinda like the aztecs getting killed from unknown disease. If not, then perhaps a past evil villain, more powerful then the ones we know, had destroyed the large alicorn species. Or, perhaps they gave up their power to save early equestria, the same way how the guardian of beauty gave up her youth to bring back beauty and harvest for her people.
But as for cadence's past, I agree that the past hearts and hooves day princess is cadence's mother, as it works for the story of her being adopted by a middle class family as a abandon pegasus foul. Because it states that the prince and princess was under the trance of the love potion, and couldn't focus on their duties. Which means if they had a child, they wouldn't even care about the child, meaning that cadence could slip away unnoticed and wandered into a forest, where she was adopted.
Sawtooth in the description - Flurry Heart in the thumbnail, what crimes will she commit? Me - She will commit crimes which are even beyond our understanding
In my theory Cadence mother would be the peice we're missing because if Candence's mother is in the picture this would make sense how Cadence got her powers and mainly i mean the power of spreading love so the one in the picture is Cadence's mother.
When Sawtooth Waves show us the photo of the prince in the story….I was thinking if Queen Haven in MLP a new generation because she is a queen of Pegasus and the prince in the hearts and hoof story is an earth pony prince so this is like almost the same Hope this helps Sawtooth Waves 😉😄
The secret Alicorn is cadence mother and it also fits the history because after that they had foal and as they were not doing their royal duties and weren't doing any of their responsibilities so theyhad left her somewhere and that's how cadence got adopted by earthponies
Sooo... what if the "unknown prince" was actually Sombra? If you kind of consider the comics timeline, he has an established relationship with another mare, Radiant Hope. I do know she was a powerful magic user, so it's possible she became an alicorn (barring some of the comic's events, of course)! Or maybe since the comics and the show have their own separate storylines, Radiant Hope became a princess on her own, was at some point given reign over the Crystal Empire, and THEN our dark horse Sombra comes along and gives the poor mare a love potion as an attempt to control the Crystal Empire--thus kicking off the events you described in your theory. I don't remember the Crystal ponies ever giving a real explanation behind Sombra's power, but I could be totally wrong (I should probably prepare to eat hoof, just in case 😁). What do you guys think?
If you could met the maker of the My Little Pony Friendship is Magic series at a comic-con, the you could ask her a lot of questions about the unknown alicorn princess in the Hearts and Hooves day story.
I think that mysterious Alicorn might be Candice's past like that could be her grandmother or her great grandmother or might be a an unknown Alicorn princess to the world. By the way love your theories.
Well, that would explain Cadence's past a little bit more because we have some side videos that say she was abandoned and adopted by Earth ponies. So, if she was the result of that love potion then they would have abandoned her and the earth ponies would have taken her in. But in your video where you explain where Flurryheart was born an allicorn, you say that because she is the allicorn of love for one's caretaker, she was born an allicorn. Since it was a love potion, Cadence probably wouldn't have a purpose or, just because it was a love potion, she didn't end up being born an allicorn.
Here's a dark theory. The princess in the story had been an alicorn and ruled the crystal ponies and had been Cadance's mom, evidence: a crystal poney instantly called their princess as she swoops in during the crisis in the Crystal Empire episode, moms and daughters can look alike. However, as the story goes the love poison made her neglect her duties, to a point where she was killed and the Crystal Empire fell to King Sombra and its disappearance, only Cadance made it out.
Love this idea, not because I consider it particularly more likely than other ideas, but because it provides lots of interesting ideas for stories when Equestria was younger. (I've always been very interested in fanfiction for additional pony content, especially when the writers are able to flesh out the world with their own ideas.)
from the evidence of what we seen in small moments to comics in mlp many creatures were once able to use magic before the majority became pony controlled I what mean is we have seen magic artifacts from non pony races and monsters having their own innate magic power so could ancient equestria be more untamed with magic and by ancient I mean the rule before celestia and luna's age
i know this is superrr late but hear me out (if you see this)
what if the princess was past chrysalis?
it would explain how she knew about cadence (cadence still being the daughter of this partnership) and her hatred for love after a long time (also her disregard of suitors in the this day aria song) she's also presented with a horn and wings and could maybe explain why celestia was hesitant to fight her and why luna ran (they knew who she was)
it could also explain the changling magic ( if chrysalis was tainted by a love spell and then her suitor eventually died of old age becuase as an alicorn she would live longer than him, a curse may have been put into effect as a side effect of the potion which obviously would not be in the book as nopony knew about it (being ponies, if they used this spell both ponies would die at the same time hence the curse not happening for them)
this could make it possible for her to suck up others love as compensation for her love being gone (unrequited) her ability to shapeshift may just be what caused her to become an alicorn in the first place (by creating new magic) and then that same magic was passed to her subjects
and also, what if the suitor was sombra?? he's shown as a unicorn and a powerful one at that that denies love (he tries to take the crystal heart) maybe he came back as who he is today as part of the same curse chrysalis had? it could fit into your sombra alicorn theory as he may use chrysalis to get power by making her love him.
maybe he didnt die but when he brought down the empire when he disappeared that could also have triggered the curse?
i dunno, just the first thought that came to mind :)
Cadence was born to the two ponies, but I believe that the Princess was the ruler of the Crystal Empire (hints at Cadences cutiemark). Think about it, how would a dark unicorn (King Sombra) takes over the empire by himself? Unless... there was something going on that prevented the rulers from doing their duties? You can probably see where im going with this, so maybe when the Prince gave the Princess the love potion and both fell in love with each other they had a baby and couldnt do their jobs cause they were souly focused on each other. Then King Sombra saw this as an oppurtunity to take over the empire he killed the rulers and enslaved the crystal ponies and kept Cadence hostage. Then finally Princess Celestia and Luna came to save the empire from Sombra and saved Cadence as well then the kingdom vanished. It makes sense since the love story talked about the fall of their kingdom.
The minor royal thing works, I mean the different races leaders, ie queen novo, prince Rutherford, dragon lord ember, it makes sense to have pony royals as well like king sombra/king colbolt & possibly queen chrysalis/before hand…, maybe even alternate dimensions, like where king colbolt was from, but being a massive impact like celestia raising the sun & Luna, night, it is shown to have them as the bigger royals here, heck we might have our own mlp sailor scouts, with mares like Venus or Jupiter, but my point is minor royals may have given bigger impacts on equestria, like who are lunas and celestias parents?, they could have been minor too.
There is a chance that Princess Amore (who people keep saying is the former Ruler of the Crystal Empire, don't know how accurate that is...) was the one who fell victim to the Love Poison. Perhaps Sombra (with no Royal Heritage or Title at the time) tricked a lovestruck Earth Pony into giving her the Love Poison, and in their newfound ignorance Sombra could steal the Crystal Heart and take over the Kingdom. An unforeseen consequence however, could have been the birth of Cadence - whether as a Pegasus or Alicorn - and was sent away from the Kingdom when it was doomed to fall.
If not already an Alicorn, Cadence probably still earned her way into Alicornhood similar to the non-canon stories that have been printed IRL, as she was clearly destined to rule the Crystal Empire when it returned, and the concentrated Love Poison Magic would have been infused into Baby Cadence - like how different substances ingested by pregnant women can cause side-effects in the development of their baby.
In the episode where flurry heart was born, celestia and Luna stated no ones ever been BORN an alicorn in equestria that they know of so . So maybe Cadance was the unicorn daughter of the ruling pony of the Crystal empire . Hence ‘Crystal princess’ .and as she grew older she was put incharge . Then as you said;the prince (most probably comming from smaller region) crushed on her, giving her the potion. This caused her to abandon her royal duties, causing the rise of Sombra . This where the part comes in where you said Celestia rescues her. Celestia takes care of her, as her niece so I’m assuming Celestia had a good relationship and knew the rulers of the Crystal empire(aka candance’s parents). This is where again add your idea from one of your previous videos where you said Starswirl set that alarm of turning ponies with rulling potential into allicorns (she dose something to set the alarm off and fullfiling her destiny).So then she took care of Twilight (to help recover herself) and eventually married Shining. So Celestia felt she had recovered enough to rule again. Therefore sending her back there to the empire . And we know the rest . I hope you see this :)
you were right about natural and artaficial alicorns but in a wrong direction for example cozy glow was an artaficial alicorn becose when magic was taken away from her she become a pega*sus* and when magic was taken away from luna celestia (season 4) they were still alicorns
Ok but am I crazy or were there other alicorns sitting underneath celestia, twilight, and Luna in that one episode where spike tries to light the fire at some sort of Olympic games at the crystal heart empire but fails?? There was a pony there that reallly resembled twilight too
What if, the crystal princess that was shouted out in the season 3 finale was this Princess? Would make sense why the crystal heart, is, well, a heart. And the resemblance to her mother could explain why the crowd pony called cadance the "crystal princess"
The Crystal Princess shouted out in S3 is Princess Amore from the comics, "a very distant relative" of Cadance according to Amy Keating Rogers. Only problem is this princess is a crystal unicorn.
I feel like the mystery alicorn princess is queen chrysalis, I mean imagine.. imagine if queen chrysalis once shared love with the prince in a different form, she was probably deeply in love and gave all her love to that prince, but once the prince realized that he was in love with moldy cheese he was disgusted? Which is why queen chrysalis steals love to grief over her broken heart?
I think the alicorn was Cadences mom ,cause the spell cast on the alicorn was like the spell cast by Cadence .she must be long gone so she is forgotten
Well what if the alicorn in the story was cadence’s mom who was also Celestia and Luna’s sister. And as a consequence of the spell gone wrong in order to free their sister they had to strip her of her alicorn power leaving her a normal unicorn. But as a result of the spell, this unknown sister had a descendent(s) who later branched off on having both Cadence and Blueblood. So they are technically related as well as niece and nephew but with a few added greats to it. So what happened to the unknown sister? She died ages ago since she became mortal
on an unrelated note, the theorist OC ponies are literally their own fandom at this point and anytime there's a little teaser for them like at the end of this vid, I get SO excited
hear me out peeps, I am a little late to the show but I have an alicorn Idea. Like you theorized with each princess representing a bond that holds society, I think that is still true. older siblinghood, younger siblinghood, friendship, love, and parental love all have their own tier of magic. It is proven the magic of love an friendship are two of the most powerful weapons in equestria. maybe siblinghood and parental love are the same. maybe luna and celestia became alicorns after realizing the teamwork (raising the sun and moon) of sister hood. flurry was born one because of her instincts. maybe those types of magic are on a tier stronger than any magic in the whole mlp universe. maybe it takes that magic to be an alicorn. grogar's bell held the magic of a time before those were realized. it held captive the magic of those relationships. maybe it takes that much magic to become an alicorn. your starswirled invented alicorns still works. flurry just was transformed in the womb. coxy glow didn't have one because she used stolen magic. starswirled made the alicorns because of the magic they had through understanding, and his spell lasted atfer limbo. he did not understand how luna and celestia had the power. he just knew he did. his spell detected the power of cozy and made her one too. celestia wasn;t there to greet her because she didn't know what was happening somehow. that is my theory.
twilight didn't invent the magic of friendship. she understood it. of course they all have their duties, celestia and luna raise the sun and moon, twilight rules equestria and used to solve friendship problems. cadence and maybe oneday flurry rule the crystal empire. it makes sense. twilight was first to understand friendship because she knew it was like with no friends. cadence is love because of her natural love for everyone. celestia is older sibling because of her natural leadership and motherly instinct. luna is younger because of her willingness to follow (eventually). flurry is child because of her naturally greater love for her parents (courtesy of the crystal heart)
What if... Prince Blueblood was the prince in the story and Cadence was the princess. Sense Cadence is adopted it wouldn't be weird. Maybe for training for them, Celestia game them a tiny kinda to rule over and BlueBlood wanted a relationship with cadence that she didn't notice or care about.
I think that the story was just a story, that they made them for young fillies who dream big and want a prince Charming. The alicorn in the story could be to contrast importance to the story,
What if the Prince died and the princess of love lost all her love with his death. She then took on a new name, Chrisalis, and raised a army against Equestria. Why? She feels that her love was stolen by ponies, and wants to take it all back.
Maybe the Alicorn is caidence mother and caidence broke the love spell with reall love instead of an spell that forced the love. It could explain her cutie Mark and her power.
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sarah toole2021-04-18 00:49:59 (edited 2021-04-18 01:28:26 )
Cough Chrysalis cough let me explain: like you said: "Chrysalis and the changeling could have been in the crystal empire before it FELL("the kingdom fell as a result")" but what if the queen wasn't married to Sombra but to a king before Sombra. They were so in love with each other that they couldn't of notice Sombra. Sombra might have been in love with Chrysalis... Pure Sombra: asked to take over the kingdom saying the citizens were being neglected and deserved better took over and got corrupted because he couldn't stand to see everyone with so much love while his only love was pining over the former king and destroyed an already week kingdom Already Curupt Sombra: asks for kingdom doesn't marry keeping the old queen as queen even tho she had no control (highly unlikely) Cunning Curupt Sombra: asks for a marriage of the queen and the kingdom and destroys the week kingdom because chrysalis wants to be with her lover. the spell on chrysalis could have broken after the king had died but it also can leave chrysalis bitter especially if the two sisters already had warned her and took her baby (cadence) away because of neglect, she could be shameful and would not ask the two sisters for help this bitterness from when the changelings changed and let friendship in might have opened up an old wound from her past because she might have felt betrayed if she saw Sombra as a friend. after her hive changed without her into something that what she saw made her week in the past might have made her feel lonely and of course bitter and saw it as her hive hating her and rejecting her by changing into something she saw as weak and vulnerable.
You know the principle in the friendship games? Can you make a video trying to talk about her. The princesses of equestria (Luna and celestia) were principle and vice priciple of their own school and Cadence was in a lower position in the other school. Yes i haven't watched it in a while so I don't really remember everything. But i'm just so curious of who she is in the pony world. If maybe, she's a secret Alicorn!
it would also explain why flurry is an alicorn. if that mare was cadence mother, cadence was born as an alicorn too. which kinda explains why flurry heart is an alicorn, maybe genetic :)
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Ryan Pheasey2021-03-27 16:37:20 (edited 2021-03-27 16:40:22 )
Maybe that alicorn in the story was the original princess of love but when Cadence got older, she took the title and now she’s the princess of love I just started thinking about this while watching this seeing as we don’t know what that princess was the princess of So maybe if that princess is cadences mother, maybe her mother taught her love spells
This theory is not related to the video, but what if Sunny was Lauster Dawn's daughter? Sunny's color palete looks similar to Lauster's and this explains why Sunny admirs the mane 6 and have a poster of princess celestia. Sure Lauster is a unicorn and Sunny is an earth pony, but it does makes sense... doesn't it??
So, just a thought here but..... about 5 years ago Sawtooth made a theory that maybe chrysalis had once been an alicorn or at the very least the ruler of something other than just the hive, now we have a theory that the mare in the hearts and hooves day story was an alicorn we haven't met. Well.... what if chrysalis had been and allicorn and the prince that used a love potion on her was a prince version of King Sombra. Maybe he wasn't really in love with her, but was more so in love with her power. He could have made the alicorn amulet by stealing chrysalis's magic using dark majic. This would not only take her majic, but the heart break could have lead to her need to feast on love. There may have been a group of changlings around the same time that needed a new queen. They could have then seen her already part way to being like them and changed her into a changling. Then over time she would have ran the hive and pushed her hatred for love and ponies onto the other changelings, both of which would be founded from Sombra having broken her heart. Then we have the events of the mlp series wherein she would have seen her home changed by the very kind that she had once abandoned after what Sombra did. That very may well bring even more to the story than her just being an average changeling that was randomly chosen to be queen. This past would also explain how she would have the knowledge necessary to have been able to make all of those protections around the hive and all of those majic blocking bariers. One final deeper tie is that Celestia and Luna may have been related to her and encouraged her to mary the aforementioned prince version of Sombra. This could also make her Cadance's mother, and it is possible that Celestia took in her then orphaned neice as Sombra would have ignored her as he descended further into the awful tyrant he became, and her mother would have been mia. So she was exposed to love from her aunts which is how she knew how powerful that emotion was. Plus with this theory Sombra could havé been from a weaker kingdom, and Crysalis could have been the princess of the crystal empire. After all the name crysalis is very close in speel in to the word crystal. You just add a t and drop the ending is. And it is clear that names of rulers and others tend to tie in to who they are, were, or are to be. Then following this theory, putting chrysalis in stone for the 1000 years actually makes sense. Since when she eventually breaks out or is freed it would be Twilight in charge and not Luma and Celestia. Which is good since cyrsialis wouldn't have any direct anger rooted with twighlight. Then you bring in Sawtooth's recent theory on how to reform chrysalis, and once reformed she may actually return to her original pony form from before she was an alicorn, supposed to turning into a new changling form. And if the alicorn amulet could he purified and the majic given back to chrysalis after she is fully reformed, she could work things out with retired lunar and celestia in her original alicorn form and tell them what all happened. After which she could meet her daught and grandaughter and be allowed a title of queen as a cutesy title being the true former queen of two different groups and being the mother of the princess currently ruling over the crystal empire.
And there you have my long-winded theory/head canon of how cyrsalis goes full circle, good to bad to good.
Okay , not related to the video, but i wanna explain why alicorns always have wavy hair that is kinda transparent. You see, Celestia and Luna have wavy hair but Cadance doesn't. Celestia and Luna are the main rulers so they pocess a lot of power But cadance is more of a assistant alicorn. So...that means Celestia and Luna have wavy hair representing their power But cadance doesn't have wavy hair because she has less power than the rulers Same for twilight, for as long celestia and luna were there, Twilight had less power and didn't have wavy hair. But the last episode means that twilight gained all the power Celestia and Luna had. Thats why she had the long body and wavy hair!
@Lehla Quartz since the theory states that the two ponies were Cadence’s Parents, and that she was a result of them. but since they were under the control of the love potion, she wasn’t really intended
She might’ve also been neglected by her parents who were just too busy staring into each other’s eyes, so maybe her mother was stripped of her wings/horn and Cadence was put up for adoption. There she would actually be cared for. Maybe Celestia and Luna had adopted Cadence’s parents (as adopted siblings, doesn’t mean they became alicorns tho) which would make Cadence their adopted niece. Maybe Blueblood is a descendant of Cadence’s adoptive parents which would also explain how he’s Celestia and Luna’s nephew.
@Pastel Nut I’m not sure if celestia and Luna adopted her parents but maybe her parents didn’t want her as she wasn’t intended maybe Celestia and Luna adopted her only? Not sure tho
@Vaishali2 Think, alicorns live longer than ponys, so what if when the Prince died, he took the love she had for him with him, and now has to take love because of a backfire in the spell.
Maybe somthing or someone caused a large disappearance of all alicorns Maybe they destroyed the knowledge of how to become an alicorn to make sure that being an alicorn was seen as royalty Maybe to get celestia and Luna into power
This is related to the video but I remember you talking about how long a moon is in Mlp. And I believe I figured it out. So in the Apple Family Reunion, Granny Smith says that the reunion takes place every 100 moons, and since the days would probably be different in Mlp, since it’s a whole different universe we know that it wouldn’t be our normal 100 months (or moons) Anyways, during the part where they’re looking through the book we’ll see That at the last reunion AppleJack was a foal. And from what we can guess (and from what Google says) we can say that Apple Jack is in her late twenties, so I believe that a 100 moons is about 30 years
It's mentioned in the Show that flurry heart was the FIRST born alicorn so I don't understand how cadence would be born one... wouldn't Luna and Celestia have heard of it?
I still think that the woman is cadences mother. Possibly the reason why we haven’t meet her is because in the book it says due to the love potion the kingdom fell down. Maybe cadences mother as well as her father didn’t survive the down fall but cadence did.
This theory is probably true. Why? Because in the crystalling episode the images on the vase used to explain what exactly the crystalling was depicted a mother alicorn. (If I remember correctly.) This could easily have been Cadence's mom. While we do know Flurry is the first naturally born alicorn, that doesn't mean that Cadence couldn't be the unicorn daughter of a disgraced alicorn princess (possibly needing to earn her wings to attone for her mother's mistake? In the hearts and hooves story we're told the kingdom fell. We know the crystal empire fell to Sombra. Maybe that's how? Just a thought.
I doubt that Cadence is the princess from the myth or that the princess is her mother. I posted another comment explaining why I think Cadence is young. The myth is old. It was said multiple times that no alicorn had ever been born before, so Cadence wouldn't have been an alicorn just because her mother was one if her mother was the pony from the myth. Also, I think Celestia would try to avoid making the child of a princess an alicorn. It would likely be close enough to when she made the mother an alicorn that ponies would remember that she became an alicorn. Making her daughter a princess could be fine as long as she had no real power like Prince Blueblood, but making her an alicorn could be seen as giving a lot of power to one family and that could cause some outrage or at least frustration among ponies. There is still the possibility that Cadence became an alicorn and her mother was one, but I find it unlikely.
What about the crystal empire? When Cadence toke over after it reappeared it clearly became a client state of equestria but how can an empire be a client of a kingdom?
Ahhhhhh shoot but what about "the birth or an alicorn is something we've never seen" thing. This while royal thing has so many ways it could go. I hope there'll be more vids on it!
What if it the future Flurry heart found a way to remake starswerlls time spell. She could've gone back in time and became friends with the prince and he could've gained a crush on her, infuaniceing him to create the love spell. And once the spell was used there was no turning back untill some pony(Twilight) found the spell plan flurry left behind. and having to go after her and save her.
I thought that perhaps the unknown princess was queen chrysalis? Maybe before she became a changeling? And maybe her becoming a changeling was a result of the prince giving her the live potion
Okay, just checked the episode. No indication other than the illustration in the book that it was an ALICORN princess. And by Prince Blueblood's example, you do not need to be larsoned to be a prince/princess. Maybe the prince & princess in the story were both non-alicorn types, but when the book was written, the author/illustrator took liberties and drew the princess as an Alicorn. It's either that, or a whole ass-ton of alicorns got killed off, and MLP:FiM just hit George R. R. Martin levels of dark lol
I'm just waiting on you to cover in the first episode a red apple is pit in twilghts mouth but she spits out a green apple it's when shes at sweet apple acres for the summer sun celebration
You know, that male pony kinda looks like doughnut Joe and also maybe the alicorn he had a crush on was a changlling (I don’t know how to spell changelling). Changellings can turn into anything you know.
All right I’m back. So I know this is from a different video but when you said there might be other alicorns that we don’t know of. YOU WERE RIGHT!!! In my book called “the journal of the two sisters” Luna says “ the alicorns thought it was important” so ya.
Luna got younger because she got her short hair when she breaks out of Nightmare moon. The same short hair that she had when she was a Filly. But we see her wavy hair when she defeats Discord so how did she get younger?!
I can actually talk about this. I see her magical hair situation as less of an Age thing and more of a Magic thing. When an alicorn's magic is low their hair tends to become less magical and wavy. That's my headcanon anyway.
@OttoFilms your not even a mlp fan bruhhh remeber twilight drank the time travel potion and then Luna and celestia destroyed discord before she was nightmare moon and when she was defeated she was young and had short hair
If Luna becmae Mightmare Moon, then she has a lot of magic in her body, like Celestia. So if the mane six defeated Nightmare Moon, the magic could have drained out of her body because the mane six used the rainbow vortex thingie to defeat Nightmare Moon.. but I was thinking, did the magic went to the moon or what? That's all i can think of. Since she has magic in her whole body, and her hair too. So if the magic was drained out of the body she would get younger right? And when she defeates Discord, Discord's magic was drained out too, but i still dont know where it went, but it could went to the Alicorns' body, like Luna. So if there are some magic in her body then her hair but be wavy and she would become older. Also did you remember the pieces when the mane six defeated Nightmare Moon? That could be fell out of the hair, and it also could be the hair's magic, like a shell of a snail. That's all i could tell tho..
Her Season 1 appearance is how she looks "naturally," how she looked before she officially became Princess of the Night. When she officially took on this role, however, the special, powerful magic she was endowed with and which enabled her to control the night sky also came with a massive makeover.
When she was banished, this magic she had did not go with her, having been taken from her (presumably by the Elements) and instead given to Celestia, in order to keep her from doing harm even in her exile. When she returned and was defeated by the Mane Six, she did not receive this power back right away, and instead reverted back to her "basic" form. It wasn't until she had fully reconciled with Celestia (and by extension Equestria) that she could be entrusted with her power once again and be reinstated as Princess of the Night, and thus get her other appearance back.
I think that when Luna was a filly her hair was short, then time passed and her hair became wavy. When she got defeated by the mane 6, she lost all the magic she had including the magic that made her have wavy hair when she got older which led to her looking young. I know my theory doesn't make any sense ;-;
sombra did want power so mabey if he took the other alicorns and then use the memory stone to make others forget them then by the time anyone figured anything out he could have taken what he wanted from them (immortality and magic as he does have a above avarage ammount of magic and lived a long time). and after that if celestia figured it out then mabey she took the others familys in as hers out of guilt? would explane why they arent mentiond as anything pointing to who they were is likely long gone ornow hidden due to the horror of being able to have your family forgoten and not knowing it.
If there is already a princess of Day/Sun, princess of Night/Moon, princess of Love/Family and the princess of Friendship... shouldn’t we have a princess of Nature or something like? Or maybe the princess of Magic or something...
HEYY!!! I rewatched the episode and when sweetie bell was explaining what happened with the princess she said “there’s something here about a dragon...... kingdom falling...... CHAOS REIGNING”
maybe cadence was around as a young princess since discord took over ??
The princess in the story could also be Chrysalis, and after her prince died, (since alicorns age slower???) she became hateful as a backfire of the potion, which is why she is hateful and scared of love now
Cadence was born as a pegasus. Also for the Crystal Empire from my little pony books, I think there was a ruler that really looks a lot like Cadence but some people says she is not her mother before Sombra became evil & took over the empire. Sombra also likes a crystal pony named Hope.
Im torn on this one because I low-key believe cadence is the alicorn princess from the hearts and hooves story. Primary because it was confirmed that the princess adopted her as their niece. Which leads me to believe one of the two princesses ( probably celesta ) broke the spell and helped her get to the place she is now and find real love.
At the same time it could be her mother. All though it’s left a mystery of who her mother is ,as cadence is a mystery herself. The first part of her name is Mi Amor translates to my love. Just as Celesta guided twilight she guided cadence in a different way. Once twilight met the princess she got her cutie mark. Maybe it worked the same way. It is said that cadence got her wings after confronting Princess platinum after stealing the magic from the other ponies she used what little she had and that’s when she became an alicorn.
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random stuff2021-12-13 19:54:12 (edited 2021-12-13 20:04:33 )
I love your videos and I want to become like you your theories are awesome I hope I can be as good as you BTW I had a theory maybe the alicorn in the thingy knew about alicorns being associated with royalty and just wanted to live a normal life. They could be one of those ponies who you always see wearing clothes in the background to hide their wings so they can be normal and not royal.
One thing, then why would flurry be beyond Celestia and Luna’s understanding if cadence born to an alicorn mother was an alicorn, also would what happened in the Crystal heart spell not have happened? As she’s shown as a Pegasus there
So what I'm hearing from this is that all the "animation errors" we see are actually real alicorns that for some reason have left their royal status behind them to live normal lives.
In the crystalling pt.2 (or 1) spike comes into the room with this sort of vase showing the history of the crystalling, there were some drawings there that had a few unicorns and pegasi, so maybe one of those pegasi or unicorn was that princess! After all its not told in what part of Equestria it was! Maybe when one of those ponies turned into princesses (so they turned into alicorns) went to Canterlot for some sort of royal event ,THAT prince that made the love poison liked her!!
Did u read the Crystal siege comic? There was another alicorn: princess Amore mentioned. She was shattered by Sombra, so maybe thats why we never heard of that.
okay here me out. daybreak got rid of all the other alicorns. she has the influence to get rid of the past say she's the only alicorn (ponies forgot here sister). tia also said I will never become you again meaning she did at some point. bit of a stretch but I like the idea of it.
Could you do one on Prince Blueblood because it’s always been a mystery to me he is Princess Celestia and princess Luna’s nephew but who are his parents?
no. See, the alicorn is Queen Chrysalis. I didn't watch the video yet so you may have said this.
Love is the thing that brought her down. She used to rule her kingdom of changelings as the bug creatures we know and love today. Once the potion was used, she was trapped in love.
and now she can only feed off of the love of others... It would make sense. Literally all the other villains got backstories. Tirek got his, Discord had his, Starlight got hers. I believe that we also got Chrysalis's backstory. But in a nonchalant, foreshadowing way. This is your answer. This is the truth.
Heres a theory: What if the princess from the story used to rule the crystal empire? The prince from another kingdom fell in love with her and made the love potion. The potion resulted in Cadance, who was destined to rule. But her parents were so distracted in love, Sombra took over the empire. The kingdom fell, and Sombra killed her parents. Celestia saw the state of the empire but could only save one thing, Cadance. She tokk her in as her niece, and the rest is history. Maybe somepony remembered Cadance, which is why they yelled, “Behold the crystal princess!“ When she saved the heart.
I think that the alicorn from the Hearts & Hoofs day story isn't Cadance but rather her mother,somepony we know very little about like The lost Princess Amore.It is likely that Princess Amore was Cadance's mother and Cadance was born after the "Unnamed Prince" gave that potion to Princess Amore that's why she inherited those love powers from the potion,that explains the similarity between the love potion and Cadance's spell.The fallen kindom in that story must have been the Crystal Empire.One reason why is that when "Spike was falling down with the Crystal heart & Cadance flew majestically and grabbed the heart & Spike,one Crystal pony shouted out 'There's the Crystal princess (Sorry i don't remember the exact dialogue) which means there was or must have been a Crystal princess before Cadance who was also an Alicorn,most likely Princess Amore as she fits the description perfectly and as Cadance being her daughter she was the heir to the throne and the title of the Crystal princess!Another reason is Cadence's cutie mark,if we have a closer look,we see the Crystal heart as her Cutie mark and we know that the Crystal heart is linked or connected to Cadance.I think that her if her mother a.k.a Princess Amore was the Crystal princess,then that would mean she was also connected to the Crystal heart like Cadance is &Cadance might have inherited this connection from her mother,in simple words this "connection" to the Crystal heart is passed on down from one Crystal princess to the next Princess or heir and then the next one and so on and on.....which means Princess Amore was Cadance's mother and the previous Crystal princess. The " fallen empire" must have "fallen" when Sombra took over and invaded the empire since Princess Amore was too busy in love with that "Unnamed Prince' to protect the Crystal heart and thus the empire "fell' and the Crystal ponies were enslaved by Sombra.Cadance must've been rescued by Princess Celestia or she must've escaped the empire somehow and then Princess Celestia found Cadance and adopted Cadance as her niece.Princess Amore might have died or captured and so must have the "Unnamed Prince".Celestia and Luna might have tried to save them maybe but it was too late.There first priority must've been to rescue Cadance as she was the next Crystal princess and that she was connected to the Crystal heart through her cutie mark and her righful position as the new Crystal princess.Princess Amore must've been too occupied by the love potion that she wasn't capable of ruling anymore or that the potion had some severe and permanent consequences.(And after that the Crystal empire vanished and Sombra captured in North artic snow of Equestria.Cadance would have babysitted Twilight when she was just a filly studying in Celestia's Magic school for gifted Unicorns.Then later Cadance married Shining armor and some time later returned to the Crystal empire when it reappeared after a 1000 years getting her rightful position as the Crystal princess and then stopping Sombra and fullfilling her destiny).And the rest is history ( This other part in the brackets as well.) So how did you guys like my theory,do tell me and plz don't hate me or anything.Whoever that alicorn Princess might be,it is likely she is long gone and if my theory is correct and she IS Princess Amore and Princess Amore is Cadance's mother and the previous Crystal princess then that certainly explains alot!
The bewitching bell might have something to do with the theory. Perhaps Grogar’s victims were members of royalty hence why Celestia and Lu a are the only two.
In other words the former Alicorn princesses died before they got their magic back.
@revans 156 maybe but still... we still have no idea how many became Grogar’s victims and an Alicorn only got a longer lifespan, they could’ve been killed.
I think the mysterious alicorn princes could have been Cadence’s ancestor. And I think she disappeared with the Crystal Empire. (Or before the Crystal empire). I think she was the ruler of the empire at some point. I think this because in the episode, when the Crystal Empire returns, at the end the crystal ponies recognize Cadence as the Crystal Princess (or something like that). So I think these 3 things (Crystall Princess, Mysterious Alicorn, Cadence) is connected somehow.
Okay hear me out: maybe if the alicorn in the story is Cadence’s mother, maybe Cadence was born an alicorn. (I don’t think it says otherwise) and maybe that’s why Flurry was also born an alicorn.
I think that alicorn in the story is Chrysalis a lobg forgotten sister of luna and celestia. In the madness of love she become a changelin and try to take over equesrtia. But like Nightmare moon she was defeated and she became only a story for hearts and hooves day.
Chrysalis was actually born as a changeling in a swampy area. It's in the My Little Pony FIENDship is Magic Issue 5. She tells Twilight to give her a Daring Do book in exchange for her background story. Then a flashback occurs in which a squirrel discarded a bad acorn into hole in a graveyard. In that hole was a bog of sorts where the acorn grew into a a magical but twisted tree with carnivorous plants which ate horseflies as its primary diet. Starswirl showed up one night to do a bit of research and got bitten by a fly, so he got salty and pinned a sign to the corrupted tree. But upon doing so weakened the bark, causing it to split open. At this point, the flashback ends and Chrysalis says "There is no story. I was born this way." After all not every villain needs a tragic backstory justifying their actions and explaining who they are in order to make them a great villain.
Sawtooth! If you are reading this that's great! Well, I was thinking you could do a video on gen 5! because I'm sooooooooooooooooooo hyped for it ! (Call me pinkie ;)) And I want to hear you ideas about it because you really inspirational. I hope to see EXTRODINARY content in the future. From Crafted Gamer (aka Golden Midnight)
My theory is that since cadence is the princess of love I think that she was born on hearts and hooves day and the alicorn in the picture is cadences mother.
In the FiM Wiki Celestia & Luna are addopted Aunts of Cadance, not direct. Lauren Faust had planed just Tia and Luna to be Alicorns, just this 2. Cadance was not planed as Alicorn.
I know no Alicorn in G1-3.5, the Princess in that Generations usual was Unicorns. In the whole Franchise are just 3 real Alicorns (Tia, Luna, Flurry) and 3 winged Unicorns (Cadance, Twilight, Cozy).
Maybe Cadence is a Love Poison, I mean wouldn't it make sense that Chrysalis to replace Shining Armor than Cadence? Cadence is literally a giant food source of love for Chrysalis, and yet Chrysalis only trapped her underground... In a secluded place....so no one would be near her....to drain her love
@Emily plays games Stuwe Re-read what I just commented, Cadence could possibly be Love-POISON, I mean if you knew it was poison why would you even drink it? Unless it does a different effect on Changelings though
@Emily plays games Stuwe It makes more sense that Chrysalis imponynate Shining Armour. It would imply that a girl was about to marry a girl and sadly people have issues with that. Also they might have issues with a woman imponynating a man
Maybe raising the sun and moon took the other alicorns power and they had to become non alicorns then the royal sisters came and they simply ended up the only Alicorns🤔
Maybe there are many alicorns but only some live longer like celestia and Luna others have normal lifespan and they aren't known much as they rule small parts. Maybe Twilight lifespan was small too but as soon as she became the ruler of equestria her lifespan extended
Cadance is an alicorn even when she was born and thats why she is not only the daughter of the two ponies in the tale but because she inherited the poison into an ability from her horn amaizing idea!
The crystal heart had to come from somewhere and we know Candance was meant to rule... right? perhaps... her mother created or became the crystal heart
I think it's her mother only because when her father and mother drink the love potion and they got married, Cadence was born as their daughter and the potion got in her DNA...and that's why she can do the spell without the potion.
Hold up, if the mare was a princess then it could be the daughter of the unicorns, you know the hearts warming eve story when the three tribes sent their leaders. The female pony could possibly be the leader of the unicorn but she was a regular unicorn when Rarity was dressing as her. But what if she got her wings after hearts warming eve and a male pony fell in love with her since she is royal she could be the pony.
I figured it out I finally figured it out what if the Alcorn princess in the story and the Prince were celestial and Luna’s parents The potion the prince made may have been in how the Royal sisters came to be I mean sure they were born Alcorns but two unicorns kind of makes sense please tell me what do you think
I think her mother might have died in the war against king zombra ( I think it did happen in the history of equestria at one point ) or hid for her safety.
Ok, this doesn’t have to do with the video but I was drawing and a theory came to mind. So, we know Luna turned into Nightmare Moon out of jealousy and hate right? Now, although Daybreaker was just in Starlights dream, what if that is her evil-pony version? Which leads me to my theory, despite the comics, what if only ponies that are born alicorns can transform and have a evil version of themselves? Like, when Flurry Heart was born, Celestia and Luna said they hadn’t seen a pony born an alicorn in the Equestrias, because the alicorn ‘herd’ that the two pony sisters came from was the only alicorn-born herd. So when they saw Flurry they were worried, a little confused but more worried, because they know since Flurry Heart was born an alicorn, she has an evil-pony version of herself. This is a random theory, and I know the portal makes it so this couldn’t be true because of Sunset Shimmer and Midnight Twilight, but it made me really think about the evil-versions of the ponies, and how that exactly works. Last thing to add, we’ve seen ponies be jealous of other ponies, like Sweetie Belle, but they didn’t transform, maybe even Celestia saying Luna transformed because of jealousy was a cover-up. Anywho, love your videos!!
I do have a theory of why there are no male alicorns, I was thinking that is something that only follows the female chromosomes, so any mare could have alicorn genetics, but it takes something special involvement that relates to magic, to become one and that offspring of two ponies even if it was an alicorn, could not be born as both a colt and an alicorn... I mean, have we ever seen any male alicorns in the show that really existed? the pony of shadows being a possible magic parasite that could have had two separate hosts (one unicorn and one pegasus) and alicorn big mac... well it was a dream of his but never something that truely happened, it would also explain why so many mares can go back and forth becoming alicorns... it's genetically part of them...
Ok what if the alicorn from hearts and hooves day was the original leader of the crystal empire? It was around before King Sombra, it just disappeared under his rule. So what if the original leader was killed because of Sombra? It would make sense, he wouldn’t want anything to ruin his rulership. And cadence was still the daughter of that couple! But before the empire went completely under attack, the alicorn gave her away to someone to take care of her? It would make sense because her cutie Mark directly revolves around the crystal heart, plus being the princess of love and just coincidentally a kingdom made of love just appears? I think there’s more to that than what meets the eye
The reason we don’t know about the other Alcorns I think it’s because starswirl when the two main princesses became Alcorns he probably put a timer spell on them so they would live long time
Here's something to say something the alicorn princess looks wayyyyy to old for it to be Cadence also I think that the alicorn princess is someone entirely else because if the alicorn princess was Cadence's mom and the story says "They got so lost in each others eyes that they stopped doing there royal duties " then that had to be enough to stop loving a philly and if the cystal emprire still had royals that did their duties and love each other and 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 philly than for the alicorn princess to be her mom Cadence would've known better in the first place not to cast that spell and before adopting a freaking princess wouldn't Celestia asked her parents what if Celestia asked Cadence where parents lived but she said I live alone because my parents dont love me and maybe thats exlacty why Celestia adopted Cadence as her niece also if you said Cadence was a princess than wouldnt she be in a castle welp thats all I have to say bye!!!!!!
I have a theory maybe flury heart is the alicorn but from the future possibly because starlight opened other allterate universes could have caused flury heart to be older.
The secret alicorn could also be queen chrysalis because if the alicorn had an accident with the potion it could be if it is queen chrysalis and if the potion did something bad to har it could explain why she feeds on love since it is a love potion
What if other alicorns lived on different planets. In the comics, we do see that their are different planets in space. So who to say alicorns started their own little colonization on a whole other planet.
The secret Alicorn Princess is someone that we don't know entirely because Princess Kayden was born a Pegasus and princesses Cadence mom was a Pegasus tow
Other alicorns ? Mmmmh...maybe those animation errors were not errors after all...maybe the alicorns that we can see sometimes in the background are the rulers (or their descendance) of those minor kingdoms too ?
And maybe Fleur de Lys WAS an alicorn (since her body design is similar to Cadence's), ruler of one of those minor kingdoms...and when the power was centralized in Canterlot, she gave up her title, and her alicorn wings ?
I think the alicorn in the book is Cadence s mom and cadences mom fell way too in love with the prince because of the potion and that's how the crystal empire fell and king sombra saw that and used it as a target and destroyed them but didn't know there was Cadence who escaped from the help of celestia
This is not 100% related to this video, but I commented my theory on an older video, that Chrysalis was an alicorn before and something happend to her, or she got cursed, or something, and she became a changeling, and she can't change to any other creature because of that, that is why she refused to change to a good changeling. (I gave a lot more reasons in my original comment) And how it relates to this video is that other alicorns that we don't know about yet existing just makes this even more possible.
Its not right as cadence s mom and parents even ruled the crystal empire when sombra attacked her mom gave him magic and she went to a earth pony village as she had no energy she left her to the pony there she deafeted prismia by the power of love and she went to the realm where she becomes an alicorn and Princess celestia makes her royal niece and she babysitter twilight and married shining armor had a baby princess flurry heart
heres what i think what happend there were alicorns but due to looseing power they lost there horn/wings im just basing that off of cozy glow and how she turned into an alicorn but lost it
But if Cadence was actually bord an alicorn, why did Celestia and Luna confirm when they first saw Flurry Heart, that the birth of an Alicorn is something that Equestria, and themselves have never seen before ?🧐
Equestria is a kingdom, one country. Seeing that Celestia and Luna are busy with princess stuff, they're most likely not prone to visit other countries. They themselves didn't seem to have any children, so there still lingers a possibility that alicorns do have a chance to be born, but only if alicorn is the mother/father. From what we know there could way more alicorns in other countries, where alicorns actually breed with other ponies.
In the episode where Scootaloo talks about her parents to the classmates, there is a shot of a globe she interacts with, from that globe we could see that there are numerous continents, which all have their own ponies and possibly actual alicorns. Maybe the education about the pony planet (not Equestria, since Equestria is merely a country not the entire world), ends on the close neighbours due to lack of communication as the technology seem to be around industrial era. We never seen these continents (other than maybe Griffonstone being on a different continent) so who knows, maybe there is entire country where alicorns are just as common as other pony types, maybe even some alicorn only cities? Maybe it's just the perk of the continent of Equestria that the alicorns are rare and these alicorns don't seem too keen to breed...
I wanna say she could be a different alicorn where wasn't the story of the potion that was way before the Mane 6 were even born? It could be Celestia and Luna's mother and father or just a alicorn lost in time and forgotten by ponies
I got idea who it is. When the Crystal empire returns and Twilight is searching for history book, after she finds it she brings it to Cadence and Shining armor (sorry if I spelled it bad) she says anything about queen of the Crystal empire if she was there before King Sombra (wich she probably was) she cloud have died in fight with him, and if every leader in equestria is an alicorn there is big chance she was an alicorn too.
This is almost the same for flory heart because her mother is an alicorn but her father is an unicorn but in the picture the prince is an earth pony maybe if Cadence was there daughter she must be an alicorn just like flory but when celestia said the birth of an alicorn is something that equastria has never seen that tell Cadence was not an alicorn
This is almost the same for flory heart because her mother is an alicorn but her father is an unicorn but in the picture the prince is an earth pony maybe if Cadence was there daughter she must be an alicorn just like flory but when celestia said the birth of an alicorn is something that equastria has never seen that tell Cadence was not an alicorn
What if it was chrysalis ,yeah she's considered a queen now but that would imply she had been a princess at some point ,she also has a horn and wings , her whole thing is feeding on love and love potions in most stories can cause a person to lose the ability to feel love ,their soul or even change them physically most often making the victim become undesirable in appearance , Not to mention a mistake could have disastrous effects especially if powerful magic is at play .
WAIT WAIT WAIT it could be cadence actually! cause i remember terek saying THAT HE KNEW THERE WERE 3 PRINCESSES, who were celestia, luna, and cadence. and he was put in tartatus how long ago? thousands of years ago. so he would 1 be unaware of not only twilight being a princess but also. it would mean cadence WAS THERE WHEN HE WAS FIRST PUT IN TARTARUS! i really hope you consider this as a theory cause seriously. the princess DOES look like cadence, and with terek already knowing about her, she would be thousands of years old, maybe more. and again. we dont have proof to say when the story took place, only a long time ago. so i hope you open this theory back up, cause now we have proof saying she would probably be the princess in the story. and they say she was made into an alicorn by celestia and she was born of pegesi im pretty sure somewhere in the series(or one of the comics). so it couldnt be her mother. so please please please open this theory back up. i really want to know what you think about all of this.
I think the Alicorn in the story is different. Why? Because cadence wasn't born an alicorn but her daughter was. Going by genetics and from the one example there is a good chance that if the alicorn in the story was cadences mother cadence probably would've been born an alicorn
It makes a lot of sense for it to be her bc of the lack of other alicorns and how they come to be etc. but at the same time it wouldn’t answer the burning question why it was never mentioned by cadence I mean she had plenty of times where she could’ve said something but then u think it was to painful I wouldn’t have talked abt it either and then you question why she would use the same magic that was used on her there for u want to think she is the product of those to ponies it would’ve been the influence of her father that caused her to use such magic or have such magic but then again with how alicorns work we don’t know for sure if it even would be possible then again all they need is a lot of love and Admiration soo in the end idk which to believe but I 100% with out a doubt know that old ponies tail has something to do with princess cadence
Blossoms! Anyways it’s possible to have more than five alicorns as princess celestia and Luna should be daughters of alicorns to be alicorns in future or as your previous theory that celestia and Luna were alicorns because of star swirl, but with this video I guess my theory could also be true.
@Sawtooth Waves lol 😂 At one point, I thought the princess from the book was chrysalis 🙂 when she was good, she could've turned bad because she got separated from her love. As she was so heartbroken, she substituted her love by gaining more love from others 😅 that is just a theory with no proof though 🙃
i have a theory. maybe this stallion earth pony king is celestia and Luna's brother because we don't know if they r the only two in there family. this price must have done something to make them embarrassed to even mention him to anypony so he was never bought up. we also know very little about the two's past so they very well could have a little brother that they tried wiping out of the history books for the potion problem. this alicorn could have been a every day earth pony, unicorn or Pegasus that did a big deed, like twi did a big deed, and became a princess and this stallion could have fell in love with her but she didn't love him back which made him think he had to cast a love poison on her (not realizing it's a poison and not a potion) to make her fall in love with him as well making them married eminently and having a alicorn foal that was dubed the alicorn of love so ponies could remember this event and hearts and hoofs day could be the day that cadence was born because she was the spawn of a love poison. and her love spell i can agree could be from her dad's bad influence that she thought was a good thing and was casting it on a lot of ponies. her father could have tried to make himself sound like the good guy and her mother could possibly have not said otherwise because she would have most likely gotten every bad thing about him erased from her memory by him making them a "happy family". but soon after she met celestia she could have been told by celestia when her father wasn't around about the love poison. cadence's father could have also taught her this love spell in a attempt to keep the poison a thing long after he is gone. therefore lying to cadence her whole life but anyway, after celestia tells cadence this cadence could have vowed to use the spell he taught her for good and on ponies she thinks would need it not fallowing in her father's hoof steps making her existence worth more then just being alive because of a poison. sorry that was so long but that's my theory. i clearly get too into theories. but again sorry. what do u think
if thats the story then cadence's daughter flurryheart might be the explanation of why shes born an alicorn cause cadence had a mother who is one, did celestia lie about not seeing an alicorn born??
This is probably a stretch but heres my theory. What if the alicorn princess that the love potion was used on was actually chrisalis before she became a changeling? And once she broke free from the spell she became one, wich would allow her to birth the rest of the changelings. This probably isnt true its just a random theory that popped up in my head while watching this lol
Not necessarily , if Celesta and Luna have a sibling we do not know about then Prince Blue Blood could be their child, we do not have proof of this but it could be true.
@Katelyn Payne A name is just a name sometimes. Like Rarity isn't exactly a rare creature, it more so refers to her beauty. He may not be a blue blood, but his name could still refer to the fact that he was born or put into a noble position
Actually when we saw the future of mlp, when celesia and Luna were leaving they said "we are leaving to our home (id remember the name) Maybe that's were the small ruling alicorns live
actually, theres something i didn't notice before, blue blood is celestials nephew right? Does that mean she has other siblings? i mean i know she has family but all we here about are the TWO sisters. Then again i might just be overthinking
Luna theory: what if there was an other worldly creature that fed off of jealousy, regret and anger like bad emotions. What if they came across Luna and fed of her jealousy and turned her into to nightmare moon. And the black splotch on her cutie mark could be some of the darkness that didn't escape OR it is a symbol of nightmaremoon, a cutie mark represents a pony and the splotch represents night mare moon. anyways bye (:
Theory:Celestia is the Princess and had Cadence but lied so no one knew Luna stops them she gets so mad someone made a love potion for Celestia and people sleep through the night and play during the sun she turns nightmare moon Cadence is brought up as someone else in the royal family Cadence not knowing Celestia is her mother. Celestia and Luna have long life spans so this could be a contender. But Cadence looks nothing like Celestia so I'm thinking she may have changed her look or Cadence's because in the past she has pink hair. Also the prince is a changing that lives in Equestria and is trying to put a potion on her to steal her love and acts like a descendant prince but kidnaps the real one. I think once the mane 6 rescued Luna Celestia had a nightmare about it all again and in that dream Luna promised to never speak of it again and would never forgive herself until the episode where all ponyville dreams the same thing.
I remembered something from harry potter- if you fall under a love spell your child cant feel love- or is it just a universe or cadance is faking all of the love stuff-
Anyway, no matter who she is, the person’s probably related to Cadence. But, I think that Cadence would have just past the arguing people. Since she did use her magic, ( I mean, isn’t it a waste when she will need to use it for important-er times?) Maybe the Mayor is the princess!
Okay there I a HUGE question that has been in my head for years..... Is Princess Luna a mom or is there a third royale sister or brother??? Because prince Bluebloods is Princess Celestia's nephew..... you can't have a nephew or niece with out siblings. Could you make a theory on this please???
I think it's weird most of the Alicorns in the show are royalty unlike the other creatures only 1 of them is royalty like King Thorax Queen Novo Princess SilverStream like these creatures :/
Also how is prince blueblood celestia's nephew when he isnt the offspring of princess luna who happens to be celestia only sibling?
There's also princess skyla and lullaby moon though skyla was supposedly going to be the orginal daughter of cadence before it was changed to flurry heart
Because flurry =winter rather than sky since you know Celstia =sky or the heavebs which is usually related to or referncing the sky
For a normal pony to become a princes she needs to have the qualities of all three tribes I guess that is the same for the prince too but the prince in the picture has no horns or wings he is just an earth pony so I think it's back then that the tribes were separated like earth ponies Pegasus and unicorn maybe he was the the prince of the earth ponies so I guess that was the first alicorn princess or maybe celestia
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Akshaya S A2021-03-28 06:29:04 (edited 2021-03-28 06:29:53 )
Hi, there is an real alicorn hidden in newbie dash, wonderbolt show https://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Rose#Alicorn In her profile: if you go to temporary ---> there is picture of her as an alicorn I think you should really look into it
I still like the thought that Pinkie Pie is Cadences lost sister. I mean think about it. Pinkie looks very similar to her and looks nothing like her family.
Okay, this might make sense but that would only make sense if Cadence earned her wings after doing something major. She looked like a young foal when she was with Twighlight maybe a teenager because she was old enough to babysit. But either way, that means that she did something major as a young foal which is still possible. However, she wouldn't be born an alicorn because Celestia and Luna are seen saying that Flurryheart is the first alicorn that was born. Just a plothole I noticed idk if anyone else said this already.
Think about the time when Chrysalis hypnotized shining armor and what Cadence did😉😁❤ sawtooth if you see this think about it😉 I also wanted for you to do a video about sweety bell and sugar bell same name look a bit a like 🤔hmmm 😂think about it im sure if you see thia sawtooth you will find more evidence! 😁👍 think about it...😉
Maybe king somra and queen chrysalis they got in love by the potion but like you said in another vdo that after Luna and Celestia Sombra got jealous and became evil....I think that's why chrysalis also became evil changeling and gave birth to evil army and the prince and princess who drank the potion became a mystery.
If your theory about flurry heart being born an alicorn because her mother (cadence) is an alicorn is true, that would mean that cadence would have been born an alicorn too, which isn't the case since flurry heart if the firat pony to be born an alicorn according to luna and celestia
I Think it could be possible That its caydens mom but i Think we dont see her in our future its because as the story says they became too obsessed with eachother That she could not Care for the kingdom so maybe she lost her alicorn magic because of That?
Celestia and Luna are clearly at least long-lived, if not immortal, but that doesn't seem to be the case for all alicorns. Cadance is the one who demonstrates this; she was visibly younger when she was Twilight's foalsitter than she is in the present, and in the epilogue she seems to be either retired or dead, judging by the window commemorating Flurry Heart's ascent to the Crystal Throne. Maybe she feel victim to a non-aging-related fate, or maybe she's just lazy, but most likely she's getting old. And if alicorns are mostly not immortal, then it's hardly surprising that most of the alicorns over the course of the last millennium or more are long since dead.
“Perhaps the 6th alicorn is just lost to history....” Me screaming mentally at the screen: “AMOREEEEEEEE”
And yes i know Amore isn’t canonically an alicorn in the comics but Sawtooth once made a theory that Sombra used to be an alicorn, so Amore could’ve been one at some point!!
@Sawtoooth Waves Well not much is known about Celestia and Luna's parents to. Who were their parents? What happened to them. And brings the question of Cadence's parents. We know of them now thanks to one of the episodes. But not who is the mysterious Alicorn Princess whom could be Cadence's birth mother. Funny thing jf that Prince that used a love potion on Cadence's mother. End up becoming King Sombra. Just my speculation of the origins of King Sombra. Maybe King Sombra was good at one time. And something or someone attacked the Crystal Empire. Making King Sombra to dwelve ino and using dark magic. And that dark magic made Sombra into the evil King of the Crystal Empire. And forcing Celestia and Luna defeating him to save the Crystal Empire. But Sombra put a curse on the Empire vanishing it for one thousand years. Only to reappear in the 3rd season of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. Then theirs still Spike's origins too. Like how did Celestia come to find his egg. What happen to Spike's parents. Did something killed them or did they abandoned his egg for his safety, if something was after him. And his patents abandoned him to Celestia and they fled. Never to be heard of again. And what if Celestia knew Spike's parent themselves. And only Celestia knows what became of them.
@A R During The Crystal Empire Part 2 a random crystal pony shouts "Behold! The Crystal Princess!" when Princess Cadence arrives. This heavily implies that Cadence is a near exact look-alike to at least one alicorn that ruled over The Crystal Empire at least a thousand years ago, before the reign of King Sombra.
If you consider the official IDW comics to be canonical, like Hasbro does, there's a huge amount of lore in the main FiM series that tells you exactly who this alicorn character was and what became of them. Some of this was slightly steamrolled when they brought Sombra back as a villain for the final season of the show, but it's not impossible to resolve the differences with the addition of lore or headcanon. I only bring it up because it's funny to me that, unlike the Star Wars or Halo fandoms where side content often directly and canonicaly supersedes what happens on screen, the FiM Fandom loves to just chuck away perfectly good explanations and plot complexity just because it wasn't animated directly into an episode. It's quite an inversion compared to what you might expect, coming from other popular media franchises.
@Amazing Mr. X Damn , was not expecting that. Thank you about sharing about what we know about before the rule of sombra.Even if it is a small part it still makes a difference.
When my baby brother watch the oldest mlp I saw princess celestia was almost spread her wings does that mean she also like twilight that doesn’t know how to control her wing?watch the oldest intro u will see her wing almost spread it’s the oldest intro when she look at twilights picture before she have students
Maybe the alicorn from that story is princess Luna and I think those are her kids that's what I think I know I'm not a good My Little pony analyst but I'm a good analyst nonetheless
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C Lee2021-05-18 00:00:58 (edited 2021-06-12 20:21:35 )
I think that the pony in the story of Hearts and Hooves Day is Cadence's grandmother and just like he said instead of cadence is that was the product of this love story but it was her mother so can her mother blah blah blah she found true love and Cadence was made but the influence of a grandfather love potion might have been affected to Cadence genetically that's my theory
if this pony was her mother i do have my own theory that every pony that is a alicorn and gives birth they will give birth to a alicorn the only proof of this is flurry heart or is it? What if cadence is a born alicorn herself? I could not find anything of her in the show or canon that shows her getting wings remember just because i didn't find any doesn't mean there isn't any. Anyway and i also haven't found anything about any pony saying she earned her wings even if any pony did it could just be a lie that she tells people. but i don't know just a little thought
Dear Sawtooth Waves, Me and my sister think we know who Cadence's mother is!We think her mom is the person in equestria girls who runs crystal prep. In equestria games, we see the principal, it is not Cadence. Not sombra but, her mom. Running the school together as principal and vice principal. We also think her dad is the storm king because the principal, has the storm kings logo on the back of her chair, look at the bloopers for evidence. Thank you so much and please tell us what you think about our ideas. (We are using our mom's computer by the way) - Your fans!
Wow! I have to rewatch Equestria Games, but i think your on to something! We’ve never seen the Principal as a pony before, but since Celestia and Luna are princesses but in the other dimension they are principals, the Principal from crystal prep has to be important!! :)
Hear me out what if the princess who got given the potion was Chrysilists and when the potion broke she turned to hatred and that's why she feeds on love
Flurry heart. If cadence was born an alicorn, witch she would have been, then celestia and Lina’s line when they see flurry would not make sense. Because they would have DEFFINETLY been around to see cadence as a foal. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it just doesn’t line up.
Okay random thing I just thought of- what if that was crystilis (sorry I can’t spell her name) in disguise as that alicorn. She could have cocooned..Him..? (Idk how else to put it) Or maybe another changeling- or maybe another hives ruler. Also- simalar to bees, are there other hives of changelings? How were changelings created? And what hive was Queen cystalist originally apart of?
I think that's maybe princess amore she's in the history of the crystal empire she's not alicorn she's a unicorn she's old ruler of there , but I think she was alicorn but somehow she lost her wings and she's kind caring just like cadence so she could be .
OMG when flurry heart was born celestia said the birth of an alicorn is something EQUESTRIA has never seen, not the Crystal Empire! Maybe that princess was a alicorn since she was born! Or maybe she was born in the crystal empire, like that other comment i made!
Although this theory is a possibility, there is a much easier theory that is said in My Little Pony form. If you read 'Twilight Sparkle And The Crystal Heart Spell' Cadence says that she was just a Pegasus as well as an Orphan. She took on an evil pony who was jealous of love and used a gem (which is passed on to twilight from Cadence) to take love from others. But Princess Cadence stops her and shows her love (which also leads to her cutie mark) and then became Princess Celestia's pupil resulting with becoming an Alicorn.
I'm pretty old but I still never got my answer qwq
I'm actually confused when human twilight went to ponyville. Like why was she a unicorn and not an alicorn like in the human world? Like she gets wings but in ponyville, she's only a unicorn?
I Imagine celestia and lungs family were looked up to What if the alicorns opposed celestia after she rid of her sister thinking she was a tyrant and celestia took the magic of those alicorns putting it in the amulet leaving her supporter cadence and this is what solidified celestia as a ruler
There is proof of another sibling to Luna and Celestia b/c neither of them have a love interest and the prince that treats rarity horribly is cannonly her nephew so who are his parents?
Sad dark plot twist : that was Cadences mother.... And father.... Cadence was a mistake that was loved her father and mother were never taken apart and had Cadence by mistake until the father only loved his "wife" and Cadence as a filly mangeged to get her mother away from her father for long enough here's the story.... (Cadences mother will just be called mother and her father will just be called father) Cadence : daddy!- Father : HONEY! *runs to Candences mom and bumps into Cadence like she doesn't exist* Cadence : daddy? Mother : *see's Cadence and starts to break out of spell a little* honey your child. Father : what child? Cadence : I don't.... Exist? When Cadence was about 10 but not a fillysitter yet Cadence : mother lets have a girls day! Mother : ok! A while later the mother broke out of the spell faster the Cherrlie and Big Mac because she was already slowly breaking out of the spell then she left the father
Like, I'm in the middle of the video when a thought pops into my head, when the entrance into my head clearly says, "UNWELCOME THOUGHTS KEEP OUT!" anyhoo here's my thought. Cadence is Celestia's niece, right? maybe that mare in the story was: dun dun DUUUNNNNNNNN! Celestia's cousin/sister! I hope you look into that.
Also, As I said, This is in the middle of the video, so if im repeating what you said, sry.
I kinda want to know how you can become someones nephew or neice when theior siblings dont have any children does this mean there are other suiblings of Celestai and Luna we dont know about?
What if that Alicorn princess was Crisalis maybe when the spell was broken she got so angry that she kill him and became a changeling and when she says that they have no hearts because she had her heart stolen from her
It would be nice if you made a video of Equestria Girls, not so long ago, you made one of Pinkie's clone. In her video, "The 5 lines you need to stand in" she went to a hotdog stand, and it's pretty easy to notice a person who looks like Celestia, and at the end, someone who looks like Luna. Are there clones in the human world too?????
Okay so like. We know that the prince and princess became to lovey dovey bc of the love potion and twilight also said that bc of that the kingdom fell. Maybe thats why we dont see much royal families anymore?
What about that one paid dlc from the game loft game— I think her name’s like “Princess Amore”. I’m pretty sure she was in the the IDW comics but then again those probably aren’t canon
I personally think it's just a made up story. Ponys have only seen their princess as an alicorn, so they makeup a story about a princess, they make it an alicorn because that's what they think signifys royalty
Maybe you think about it for a sample if Kayden the floor feels nice then who is cadences mother that’s probably is her mother maybe Celeste had a secret sister
Skews me is it okay if next time you can talk about that window where the students six and The space robot thing because it’s bugging me that no ones trying to unravel the mystery
About alicorns ageing, Celestia and Luna were born alicorns, which explains why they live so long cause of some alicorn shenanigan. But Cadence wasn’t a born alicorn but that leaves Flurry Heart a mystery unless Cadences mum was a born alicorn. Cadence was a Pegasus and was adopted after her parents mysteriously disappeared. If Cadences mum was an alicorn, a princess in royal line, then her descendants were also alicorns. But in the book neither her parents were pegasi. There is a slight chance Flurry’s alicorn-ness wasn’t from Cadences mum, but a descendant from before Cadences mum. Do you suppose it… skipped? But then someone else in Cadences line made her mum an alicorn. Cadences dad was a unicorn, unless we suppose Cadence was an alicorn after her line of princesss’ husbands. But it isn’t fully direct at all. Unless her mum was a born Pegasus too and got that from one of the first princesses of the line.
I think her mother is Princess Radiant Hope Sombra's crush I assume this because we don't really have Sombra's backstory he might have also been an earth pony you know.
Maybe the princess is chrysalis but before she became what she is maybe because of the love potion she needed more love so she asked a unicorn or some kind of witch docter to make it happen and thats why chrysalis is they way she is
What if the daughter of the unicorn tribe was the secret Alicorn princess i think she found the Alicorn amulet and put it on and she became an Alicorn for years until star swirl took her magic away.
ok so get this in seseon 4,terek took magic from ponies ,but he got magic from all the tribes ,so what I'm saying is that Tereck had enoght magic to be a alicorn!
I think it is Luna they look the same and if cadence is celestias neese well for what we all know Luna is celestias only sis and this might be a frozen situation in frozen Anna is used by Hans so he could have a throne and then he would kill the queen so if this was before the royal sisters rolled over all of ecaestry they could of had there own kingdom and celestias was Queen so this unnamed pony would plan to kill celestia after him and Luna where married but the really of this was the birth of the real first born Alacorn because in the baby sitting send she was really young I think Luna did not tell her sister that cadence was her dauter
Well my theory is that maybe we know the alicorn princess what if...................
The princess is chrysalis, it could explains why she feeds on love and perhaps its why she knew about cadances whereabouts and maybe just maybe the prince is king sombra aka king cobalt,in the hearts warming story he had a daughter that was a unicorn maybe that was cadence that could explain her "urge" to spread love
If Cadance (sorry if I spelled her name wrong) was born an alicorn, then I think the genes when on to flurry heart sense flurry heart was born an alicorn
Why is Luna much smaller than Celestia? Or is she just small? I know she did become tiny when released from the moon but got bigger again soon. Also, why was she filly like when released? And when Twilight got bigger, did Cadance and Luna get bigger?
I think if Prince blue blood and Princess kadience are celestias Nephew and Niece wouldn`t Celestia know there parents? It asks it bit more then it answers. But also what is the connection between Prince blue blood and kadience?
Why do I feel like king sombra (somba?) Is the prince and the princesswe see got got her obsorbed from him years later after the hearts (cough crystal heart) and hooves day, king got overwhelmed cause the power wasnt his and now he's a red an grey villain king? Idk just a thought I had
Okay I have one question in season 1 rarity mentioned celestia's nephew Prince something is that Prince Princess Luna son I could he be celestia's nephew from another sibling and if he is lunas sun who is the father???
Okay I have one question in season 1 rarity mentioned celestia's nephew Prince something is that Prince Princess Luna son I could he be celestia's nephew from another sibling and if he is lunas sun who is the father???
In the Crystal heart spell song cadence said she was a Pegasus infant alone. Maybe they we so in love with each other they left her alone so she wasn't in the way
Theory time so I think that it's someone else bcz after your previous video I checked what was Cadence's age in season 9 so it told that it was around 200 it means when she was twilight's foalsitter her age can be around 45 or 35and the alicorn Princess we saw in the hearts and hooves day book she looked that she is 150 or something then blah blah blah and then cadence got born but somehow her mother got lost or something else and according to Cadence's backstory comic she was adopted by earthponies and then blah blah blah bcz according to the out skirts of a modest town line bcz she was sent there by a pony who wanted to rule instead of cadence's mom but she got defeated by celestia and luna but then celestia and luna looked for cadence so she could rule instead of her mother I think that place is crystal empire and then celestia took her to be her niece but she thought she was not ready at that time bcz she didn't knew Cadence's age when she was looking for her and she wanted someone bcz she banished luna bcz she said that she raised cadence up under luna 's name that your true mommy will return one day so the end
I think it could be queen chrysalis , because in my opinion she was first ruler maybe the one before Amore . And I think in the book of hooves and hearts day the mare is chrysalis and the stallion by be even sombra or possible don't true shining . I think chrysalis liked him . That's what I think.
Ok ok hear me out what if crysilis (sorry if I didn’t spell it right) was that princess but then she learned never to trust love again and that’s why she eats it
Remember that Queen in the movie or something in the play in Canterlot that Queen might have had Prince Blueblood or another Prince maybe not a prince at all
This got me thinking, what if it’s chrysalis? I know this sounds dumb but she does have wings and a horn. Sure she’s not a pony but what if she was once? The Alicorn was put under a LOVE spell and the spell can easily go very wrong so maybe the alicorn got addicted to the love it gave her? Turning her into a love hungry creature, chrysalis. Maybe when the alicorn started consuming love from other ponies it turned her into a changeling because the power the love gave her was too much? In the movies the villains always turned into a creature from too much power so maybe it could happen to the ponies in the world the magic came from. It would explain why she was the ruler and why the changelings were only able to feel full with love from other creatures. Now another thing is how the changelings became a whole hive. Maybe the alicorn wasn’t the only one consumed by the love, maybe the guy got consumed too. Them together would probably make babies...? But the hard part about this is where would he be now? I was thinking maybe he couldn’t handle the power and eventually died from it leaving no trace of him... another way to go about this theory is maybe chrysalis wasn’t evil at one point...but when the guy died she became even more love hungry, since she didn’t get love from him anymore. This theory sounds kinda far fetched but it was fun to think about:)
Okay, this is super random, but I can't find season 9 anywhere except amazon, where you have to pay like 40 dollars us or something. If any of my fellow Canadians know where to find it, can you please tell me? I need to know exactly what happens, not vague spoilers!!!!!
what if the secret princess.. turned into Chrysalis ? It might have been a curse or aftereffect of the love potion. What if it corrupted the alicorn, turning her into Chrysalis and thats why Changelings feed off love or why chrysalis is so aggressive towards friendship and royalty...?
OI heres a question for you to answer, how is Celestia prince BlueBlood's nephew. The only sister Celestia has as far as we know, is Princess Luna. EXPLAIN!
Maybe a huge earthquake or something happened because of some ponies trying to oearn more but it sent wrong And created a huge disaster witch caused a lot of the royals to protect their subjects but die in doing so but some survived and continued to rule but over fewer subjects because they fear if there are to many ponies another crazy pony will start another disaster.
I think it’s a secret our coin because if you pay attention to the show you will realize something well if you seen the movie but there’s something interesting like that and tell you I might be the most clumsiest pony
Okay so I think you're correct on it could be kittens is mother and father but what I'm thinking is that the princesses retire so maybe the father mother retired and are in the show
The ancient princess cant be cadances mother because her mother is the lost crystal princess she is princess amore surprisingly she is not an alicorn she is a tall and elegant unicorn
I believe it was Cadence's mother because Cadence was a Pegasus so she can't be a alicorn back then either she could only be a full back then because how would she be a alicorn right now
Hi Sawtooth I love your channel but I have to disagree but I have a new answer it is pause for dramatic effect dun dun dun dun Luna you heard me right I think this because Luna and Celestia are thousands of years old and what made me think that is Luna is… That is why she is never noticed and hides herself in the shadows (Meaning she is sort of secretive.) Well that’s my disagreement.❤️❤️ your channel please please please reply and if you think I’m rong prove it if you think i’m right explain.🌑🌑🌑🌑🌑✨✨✨🌟🌟🌟🌌🌌🌌.(these things represent Luna byyyyyye.)
I did watch many of ur Alicorn videos maybe even all of them And yes my first comment said that Luna was still nightmare moon in the moon So this is how I think the alicorn royal families rose and fell
For the basics this would take place during the celestial era which began after nightmare moons defeat and ended when nightmare moon returned
What we only know is that 1. The summer sun celebration and wonderbolts were created 2. Apple smith and her family was the key to founding ponyville 3 the rainboom happened causing twilights magic to activate making 5 others cutie mask + celestia taking in twilight
Because of these two big gaps in the timeline This means that royal families existed before twilight came into the mix So here’s the full story (spoiler warning: I did made some stuff that could have happened but just let that sink in)
After nightmare moon was banished to the moon and the summer sun celebration+wonderbolts were created Some powerful ponies had the idea of getting lots of support becoming alicorn and soon royalty and families
One pony named waterfall droplet a popular female unicorn married with a male unicorn and after marriage They got real popular, getting exposed to all magic from all different tribes soon they became alicorns
Soon this idea spread throughout equestria and alicorn populations started to grow
Soon there were now 120 alicorns during the year of 1629 Some even made nations of their own
But then ponyville came in and celestia had more popularity (not because she founded ponyville :/ ) Some royal families had to learn that celestia resign was,ore important to the others
Soon there were 54 alicorns left
And then one alicorn drank a potion made by her husband they fell madly in love until it took control of them
Celestia had to separate them in order to break the spell
Soon royal families realized they had lost popularity due to what happened to the couple Soon all royal families were separated and their alicorn magic faded away and due to their longer life span going away they lived until death from old age
Soon twilight came in taken in by celestia, made some friends, defeated nightmare moon and did all those those other stuff making her and cadence an alicorn
The end.
Until cadence gave birth to an alicorn named flurry heart who soon made it confused
And that’s how the alicorn royal families rose and fell
what about the queen and king character that only showed up once in mlp? I don't remember the episode but they were right next to the two princesses at the time. If I remember correctly that episode was before Twilight was a princess, but I mgiht be wrong
Or maybe the pony in the story couldve been a Pegasus and when flurry was born thats why everyone was shocked maybe cadance couldve been born with wings and a horn aswell, but idk maybe im talking non sense but couldve happened who knows 😅
Hold up Luna and celestia we think don’t have foals but if they have nieces and nephews that means they have other siblings.What if they had 2 brothers!I can imagine the one closest to Luna would be midnight (he might be a bit quite but friendly).The one closer to celestia would be called ray(a selfless colt).that’s how I imagine it at least, but it is a bit weird.
maybe cadence is not the princess in the hearts and hoof day but maybe just a thought the princess in the hearts and hoof tale is cadance, great great great grandmother because sweetie belle did say '' a long time ago'' so we don't know how long was the long time ago just a thought
Cadence is princess Celestia's and Luna's niece. Meaning that PCelestia and PLuna had a sister who is the alicorn. I think that because they are both alicorns so they could have been born as them along with the extra sister. I think the extra sister fell in love with the stallion and had Cadence.
you said that Celeste ya could have the princess of love as her as her niece, but that would mean that she would have more than one sister that would mean Loona gave birth to the princess of love, Luna's moon, which has no connection to love so technically you're wrong, but I still take your theory, but it would have to be someone of celestial bloodlike her sister, maybe she had up well, there you don't know a unless it's Michael, but now I like twice, I was a baby with you was like, 15 so technically yeah
HiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! i have watched you for a while now but i have a question when the storm kings magic escaped equestria and entered the human world and rainbow sunset and twilight went to the pony world human twilight discovered the magic of friendship and had wings in the human world but when she entered the pony she had none does this have something to do with her roles a a student not a principal ? or the time difference in the moon cycle? what does this mean for the people that have wings in the human world like rainbow and fluttershy? are pony twilight wings artifical or something? I NEED TO KNOW
I realized while watching this that prince whatever his name is because I don’t know how to spell it is not just celestial’s nephew so he must either be princess Luna’s offspring or Luna and Celestia have other siblings!!!!!!lol
I think that when luna and celestia were still little ther were multiple royals, and one of them were cadence's mother and hr father was from a diffrent royal, as she grew up cadence had a rough childhood, so when celestia and luna where older they went to cadence's place and took care of her, and cadence parents kingdom went down and the other kingdom was very near too so canter lot was the last royal place left and celestia and luna helped buuld the kingdoms with cadence, they decided too not let the other old kingdoms to have a ruler and just be a normal town. And thats my theory so yeah sorry if its long
ITS PRINCESS PLATEN/Rarity when she played at the play I saw the video when u said that King (forgot his name) lost his wings and that his daughter was princess platen what if he gave his wing to
My theory about alicorn become alicorn : because equestria need it . Like princess celestia and princess luna. they become princess sun and moon because when the princess siblings age there's still a problem about sun and moon raising even star swirl have a problem about it to he need seven unicorn to help him. The alicorn of hearts and hooves day maybe once a princess of love in celestia and luna where they still young era and in that era's she became an alicorn because she can solve love problem in that era and maybe because she's dead or something cadance replace it as the second princess of love and how she become an alicorn is the same as the alicorn hearts and hooves they solving live problem. I mean twilight became a princess because she solving the mystery from star swirl with friendship and flurry became an alicorn because crystal empire need more light.
I think that celestia and luna are immortal because they used to be connected to the elements of harmony such as the pillers and maybe even the mane 6 and spike and young 6. So cadence may not be immortal. But if she were that would be quite sad since she wouls lose shining armor. So that alicorn might be dead. And now that the mane 6 has been connected to the elements fot a while, they might have felt their own connection disappear and so their immortality. That s why they retired, they might feel their end coming up. After all, why would they retire just to spend the whole eternity doing nothing?
Ok this isnt relevant to the hearts and hooves storys but all the principals in equestria girls was alicorns so where is principle cinch she would in this logic be a alicorn in the pony world wich means there is alicorns we have never seen but since most of the personalitys is the same with both human and pony i dont think that princess cinch (sounds wrong in my mind) is the alicorn in the story but cinch is probebly an alicorn and my or my not be out there (i will say i got this theory on a picture i saw on insta that pretty much said that cinch would be an alicorn so shout out to that post)
okay but isnt Cadince (idk how to spell) Twlights cousin or Aunt? (I cant remember) I mean, how would that affect the Famliy tree of this theory and timline? 👁️👄👁️
Edit: Lol babysiter I am dumb. Nothing would affect the timeline nor Family tree...
I have some dogs that are married and I know that they have not had a wedding they are just married same for other animals like horses. Horses are like ponies and ponies are like Pegasus and Pegasus are like unicorn and Alcorns are like Pegasus and unicorn so I don’t think any of them have had a wedding it’s just the two of them love each other A lot
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Edward Julia2021-04-03 19:11:58 (edited 2021-04-03 19:14:26 )
I have one idea that we could theories
So you know that scootaloo is rainbow dash’s sister. In the show we not only see rainbow dash parents, we saw scootaloo’s parents too. We met rainbow dash’s parents but scootaloo didn’t notice that they were rainbow dash parents.If scootaloo was rainbow dash’s sister then she would notice that it was her and rainbow dash’s parents a lot quicker.We also saw scootaloo’s parents which is a different colour. So why are they sisters even tho they have separate parents?
i dont think cadens and luna or celestia was the secret alicorn i think all princesses known her exept twighlight cuz in google i shearched is there a secret alicorn? and it says the missing princess so can it be her and she was missing!
Princess Cadence is the adopted daughter of Princess Luna and the sister of Prince BlueBlood. So there is no way that she is Princess Luna’s real daughter.
Thinking about something and I got it another Creacher are the king and queen like queen nova she look like cadance mom she is hiding it because king sombra can't find her she is sooo powerful and celestia ' mom is powerful too you know
2 questions: 1-Do Aliens exist in MLP? if so then 2-is Cosmos an alien? This character from the mlp comics because she comes from space off the planet so you think.
I think that if Cosmo is the closest to an alien seen in mlp because there are time lines and dimensions with many species, it seems strange to me that an alien has not been seen or is that only Cosmo is the closest to an alien.
She doesn't look too much like an alien, but this got me thinking of Discord right away. I don't think he could be from Equestria, but from MLP, sure. Discord came from his own dimension, and maybe Cosmos did too. From the same dimension, I meant. She looks a little like Discord.
@Quinn Russ Well I mention Cosmo in the sense that the space came Discord will know, well, who knows maybe when that dimension began to exist, discord also began to exist is something full of mystery.
Maybe it was twilight on hearts and HoopsBut heart and Hops day WasaLong time ago so Maybe it was princess Celeste Tia or princess Luna but the secret it’s too deep so baby it’s twilight
Wait so if Prince Blueblood and Cadence are the niece and nephew of Celestia, then are they brother and sister? Or did Celestia and Luna have another sister/brother that had kids in resulting to the birth of Bluebloodn and Cadence??
what if the alicorn was princess chrysalis and the spell somehow turned her evil bcs if im sure she's know as the princess of love and bcs the spell she was madly in love and thats why she feeds herself with other ponies love
like Hasbro has to make many portals to many other dimensions, unknown lands, past, future So that Hasbro can continue the season of my little pony friendship is magic again And don't forget Luna and Celestia returned to being queens and Twilight became evil characters many times so Luna and Celestia returned to being queens and promised their people Luna & Celestia won't stop being queens forever And so also flurry heart Dan Cadance together rule the crystal heart kingdom
What if the princess was chrysalis and and because of her alicorn blood she out live the prince and after he died because of the love potion she no longer could love so she started to steal love to try and eventually became the changeling queen.
If you think about it in one of the episodes regarding the Galla, rarity wants to meet queen Celestia's NEPHEW!!!!! But it's not Luna's son!!!!! So they have another sister!!!!!!!!
Well I mean- Prince Blueblood and Princess Cadence are apparently Celestia's nephew and niece.. But uh- Has anyone actually wondered how that works? I mean- They're obviously not Luna's kids, right? So.. Maybe there is another alicorn sister we're unaware of. Or brother. Who knows.
I’m VERY late :> but my theory is that it’s cadence’s mom that died long ago in the history of MLP maybe the heart and hoof day was just a celebration for people in love and not just some . Crazy love potion who knows maybe cadence’s mom is still alive and well and from cadence’s oldest home but I think she is dead and cadence’s mom is celestia’s and luna’s sister and they broke the love potion for the kingdom of course cadence’s mom had a kingdom for herself far away from her child’s one who knows what gibberish MLP is hiding and I think that cadence’s mom was not “in love” with the person who gave the love potion maybe it was just him who was in love and not cadence’s mom I think cadence had been an alicorn all her life because I never really understood why she came an alicorn I think she was born naturally with it her mother was an alicorn and if her husband had been a unicorn or . Pegasus then her daughter would be one naturally born just my theory tho sorry for some miss spelling
Ok we have nightmare moon and we have daybreaker and we have midnight sparkle the evil version of human Twilight Sparkle how about Heartbreaker I mean cadence
Why do I feel like since furry heart is a new born so before she was born she was the princess who fell in love and then the king killed her? Or she might have died from old age
What if chrysalis was her mother, chrysalis would have ruled a land of her kingdom where ponies and changelings lived in peace. But one day a colt prince from a different kingdom is going around equestria to find a bride, he eventually comes along chrysalis kingdom. They meet and chrysalis does not feel it necessary for her to have a partner when she has shown she can be a strong leader, so the prince keeps trying and trying with no success. Untill he finds the love potion. He uses it on chrysalis and she unwittingly is in love with him, and the out come of that would be cadance. I think that at this time chrysalis and celestia where friends, so once cadance was born chrysalis gave her to celestia to raise as her niece. Chrysalis try's to gain back her kingdom with no aval, well except for the loyal changelings they get banished from the kingdom. That's what I think.
Princess amore was the heart & hoof day story alicorn and cadence complete mane is princess cadence mi amore + princess amore was real crystal empire princess
Tey 8 Alicorns in Equestria : Celestia, Luna ,The Alicorn we dont know, Twilight, Flurry Heart, Me Shine Star,Delta Brony and Luster Dawn but Cadence is NOT a Alicorn because in Day aria we not see real Cadence ’s Crown so Cadence is a pegasus.
I think it’s not an Alcorn I think it’s a Pegasus or a unicorn but definitely I think it’s 19 and says she passed away thank you and so so family so I guess that he gets his mama gave her wings actually so nice to give her wings to graduate from high school and and so on so Takumi she was a family and she was I thought she was one left that was a
Ok now you aren't even trying to hide it, whats with the flurry heart in the thumbnail.
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Vita Wolf2021-07-20 22:04:30 (edited 2021-07-20 22:15:39 )
Am I the only one who think that pony princess from the story may bee Queen Chrysalis? and that may bee why she is the way she is in the series? You know that the two of them wanted so bad to be closer, so that she got another potion so they could become one or the potion did it somehow. She does sing in "This day aria" "In my heart there is no room" be course that somehow the prince is part of her?
I have a theory my theory is about cadence mom here my theory: if there is a secret Ali oen princess and as he said it might have been her mom ( or did he? ) I think there is a has ro game called my little pony in where 5ere is this unknown princess I don’t remember her name but she and pink hair purple fade and a snowflake type cutie mark what if that unknown Alicorn princess / queen is candace mom and she is the princess in the story could it be possible? Let me know what u think it was nice sharing my comment wiht you!?
Hey Crystal spell fit this cadance mother and father were lost and didn't take care of their child then cadance got lost and then the crystal heart story
I have somthing that might help you do another vidio. When the Crystal Empire redurend Princess Luna keept insisting to help Twilight and her friends save the empire. Why did princess Luna wanted to help them so badly? (Sorry i don't speak English so good)
I think she was cadence mother because 1 the horn was bigger in the and in the real life it was small and also height and alicorn in the story could be princess amore the first princess of love
Well Maybe I have the case that the alicorn princess would be cadence mom . AND I have a story that fits. Well long ago there was a prince and I dont realy think who is the prince in the story. But lets move on the story. The prince walk along and when he was walking he saw a beautiful princess . the Prince and the princess were in love but they never see each other and one day the prince made a potion and let the princess drink it and they were together for every and they had a beautiful baby name cadence . and thats it well I think that cadence was BORN IN ALICORN. well lets look at this way when cadence was a littel kid she was a alicorn and she is young to turn into a alicorn and I think that cadence was the first alicron baby to be an alicorn not flury heart she was the 2nd baby alicorn to be born I don't know about that but I think dont know?
Like Celestia's niece was cadence then what if cadences mom was celestia's mom's niece and before Cristal empire of found someone ruled the cristal empire before Sombra did so maybe that somepony can be cadences mom and when Sombra came cadences mom fought him but died. Can this happen??
Ok what if they are cadences parents and it went something like this Oh look the queen gave birth-And she died 5 seconds later hey new daddy you wanna hold your-nevermind you just killed yourself welp kid looks like your an orphan
Or and I’m just saying
The parents were so in love they forgot they had a kid and she got taken away from them because neglect and all that stuff and Cadence just doesn’t remember them
and because she’s an Alicorn celestia says “You know what let’s just call you my niece”
So take it however that’s just me adding on to this
Oh you mean one the alicorn sisters that you mentioned it trying to figure it out yeah I heard that one in the beginning that they are more than just 5 alicorns
What if the other alacorn is the Princess of " life " ?? Cuz life=love. Life cuz someone created you and love of 2 people or a position. (I'm 13 years old.)
The book can’t be from cadence because because that if if it’s cadence that means shining armour is the other is the other one but shining have Arma has a full one and he doesn’t have a horn
ok so the 5 alicorn is katns mom ok it is a long rode but it is a theory so katns mom is alicorn right so if the 5 alicorn is bron a alicorn it has to bee a origin story .
what if the queen of the changlings queen name i dont know how to spell is the prinssecs/love spell person i forgot my evidence cuz i mean to type this at like 11pm last night but didnt have the energy to and now is 5 am and i forgot my evidencee
its possible but if the princess in the story an alicorn then chadance is an alicorn and we saw her as a kid and shes not anlicorn and if it is that the things that luna said that a birth of a alicorn has ever seen before
My long standing theory is that this was a lost alicorn, she wasnt Cadance, as Cadance would have most likely been shunned if word got out that she had used a her magic or allowed someone else to use her magic in this way. Also, Cadance doesnt seem to be old enough to have been an ancient love story. I think that this princess had once been a student under celestia (If you have a problem with twilight being the only apprentice, go watch the mlp equestria girls movies, you are way behind) and had been turned to an allicorn (celestia needed to learn and practice that spell somehow). She was charged to take care of a more distant land (Simmilar to the crystal empire) and at a summit a prince fel in love with her (Most likely an ancestor to prince blue blood) and decided he must marry her, whether she agreed or not (Henry the 8th), so he decided to have a potion made. He may have gone to a zebra, seeing as Zecora gives of the impression that zebras typicaly have a knack for potions, and ordered them to make a potion. The last day of the summit he offered her a glass of 'wine' and they instantly fell for each other. Celestia tried to stop them before they could be seen by the public, but it was no use. Eventualy they had to be detained by the royal guards (Making the guards for once not incompitant) and were seperated. The princess was stripped of her title and non birth given magic in a miss judgment by Celestia, and the people of her kingdom turned against her. Since we havent seen it yet, and never will see it, I like to imagine the princess was originaly an earth pony, and she went to live with some distant family members so she didnt have to deal with the overbaring shame that filled her when she would see her parents faces (Who became the new rulers, as the princess was un married and had no heir). She was erased from the narrative, but the prince eventualy confessed on his death bed that he had tricked the princess. When Celestia heard of this, she went to find the princess, but found she had died durring child birth. Celestia had felt horrible, wishing she could bring her back and almost cracking under the pressure of an entire kingdom, her sisters absence (After luna turned into night mare moon), and the guilt of her own neglegance. Instead she decided to make sure no one would be affected by the terrible potion again. She ordered a writer to make a short story about the princess, as to honor her. The writer had been told to not tell the recipe but he didnt listen to her commands (Because this is Mlp gen 4 and Males are the stupider sex) and found the recipe from a jealous rival of celestia's. When he published the book he was put to stone, and all the copys were mandated to be destroyed, but a few remained as thurough check were not preformed. Eventualy one of the last copys was placed in twilights library and twilight, being the bookworm she is, decided to read it one day, whixch was the day she ran into the cutie mark crusaders.(ps, sorry for any mis speling, its really late and Im tired but I had to give my two cents, hope you enjoyed reading this, Im surprised your still reading even after my random bablings.)
Okay for that to be Cadence's mom it will mean that Cadence was born an Alicorn and in the episode when flurry heart is brought into picture it is indicated she is the FIRST alicorn baby to be born. So no she ain't Cadence's mom
Mila Milena2021-03-27 18:30:58 (edited 2021-03-27 18:33:38 )
it can't be cadance mother beacuse not every time alicorns kids will become an alicorn like twilight she become an alicorn but her mother and father was unicorns to the end
I have a Thera that if star swirl the bearded did make allacons made he but has a dark secreted to toher all allacons in the futurea like a side effect for giving them intense magical power which is the long lifespan to let them see all their dear loved ones die as they don't do you agree with this?
hold on I have a theory what about Chrysalis her wings look like crystal if you look closely and so my theory is about chrysalis’s past..l have a feeling SHE IS THE CRYSTAL PRINCESS 👑 she WAS never mentioned BEFORE the new princess I mean maybe she tried to take the crown back ???????????????????????????????????????????????????
OMG OMG SAWTOOTH YOU NEED TO DO A THERY ON HOW KING SOMBRA MAY BE A CHANGELING AND UET VTO RUN THE CRYSTEL EMPIER WITH QUEEN CRISILES.... AND SOME PROOF IS THAT THEY ARE KING SAND QUEEN, THEY LOO SIMALAR. THEY BOTH WANT LIVE, QUEEN CRISLES WAS THE OLD LEADER BUT THEN SOMTHING HAPPONED AND THN CADENCE CAME AND THATS WHY SHE IS ALL EVILO NOW... THERES SO MUCH PROOF!!!!!
Gacha Kittie2022-11-22 01:48:02 (edited 2022-11-22 01:52:02 )
I Don’t mean to dismiss your theory but cadence is the adopted niece of Celestia and you were being adopted which means somebody had to have adopted Cadence and that somebody had to be Celestia sister but it definitely wasn’t Luna so maybe the Alicorn (the princess of stars(?)) that was possessed by the potion you’d be correct as cadences mother and Celeste your sister even though it’s not Cannon and this is just a far-fetched idea
If she has a niece and nephew then shouldn't that mean she has another sister or brother who had them because from what I know for those 2 to be your niece or nephew you need to have a sister or a brother who had kids
or the alicorn from the book can be the muther of cadance and she got her powers by her perents cuz...her mum got efected by the spell if that makes sence...uh idk uwu i dont know how to explane good oof...
There are other alicoorns BC there are other pony's like me brother a dragon pony OR me sister bat pony i sm a bat dragon pony But idk of the story Princess i think it is death But idk
Sawtooth waves if you think that comment from me is about the video that thing is on is not okay I'm just asking why do people call magicl girls Mojo's when they can just call the magical girls seems a little bit weird okay and also I created my own magical sea who is my original characte and please read this my account may look boring but read this comment okay.
Are you going to touch the topic of mlp gen5? (sorry I didn't ask this in another platform I don't use anything aside from YouTube and occasionally tiktok)
I think it is not cadence nor the princesses because cadence earned her horn and the princess in the book already have it's wings and horn and besides it looks younger and the two sisters looks older.
so i dont think i get how pony genetics work but pumpkin cake is a unicorn and pound cake is a pegasis but mr. cake and mrs. cake are earth ponies do explain please
It have to be someone else becase cadance is allready meride to shining Armor so it has to be some pony and pleas she has a Baby and the father is shining Armor so some pony else
Wait who or were is the other sibling of luna and celestia because if that was her niece and that one is her nephew there related and we don’t see luna having kids
Hey sawtooth I have a theory: going back to that one video you did about if there's other alicorns well there is! The point is you did get all the alicorns twilight,flurry heart,candence,celestia,and Luna but you forgot some when you talked about if there were more alicorns you forgot to mention the bad ones and I'm not talking about day breaker or nightmare moon or any other good unicorns that turned bad infact were not talking about any bad alicorns or are we? There is one that is an alicorn but is already bad queen Chrisalys she is an alicorn just a queen she does have wings and a horn hence the word alicorn (if you split it it's all icorn) but she's a changling with horns and wings so she is still an alicorn so let's see twilight,flurry,candence,celestia,and Luna and the 6 queen Chrisalys but let's take a step back Luna and celestia both had parents if you look up celestia's mom this alicorn name queen Galaxia will pop up and if you search up Lunas dad this MALE and yes I said male alicorn need king cosmos will pop up And Chrisalys must have been the 3rd ruler before she turned evil I think it's like this: A long time ago there were 3 rulers (the 3 others we don't know) there names were galaxia,cosmos,and chrysalis they were adored by all until one day comos and galaxia were in love and Chrisalys was getting all the glory and she loved it so she made a love poison and gave it to galaxia and cosmos they drank and fell under the spell and we're unable to complete there tasks. Until one day when starsworld a birded knew what was going on and created saw a note he read it and placed it in a book and was able to keep them apart long enough to break the spell.then cosmos proposed to galaxia and a few years later she had 2 fillys named celestia and Luna and they all loved and adored them but Chrisalys was not having it she turned evil and tried to ruled the kingdom but cosmos and galaxia banished her. So yeah that about sums it up we still don't know about the 3 other rulers I think there lost in history But hey that was just a theory a mlp theory (my brain is burnt 😵)
Oh if cadence was in the book that was shining armour is the care because there’s never a king except for with King the Sombra before but why want to be like that I think that was before was
me HAY MAYBE ITS THE LOST CRISTEL PRINCESS!!!!!!!! Bru your over thinking it theres a lost cristel princess and that maybe blue blud was the prince get it prince blue blud?
3:39 it would also explain the severe lack of Alicorns by the beginning of the show.
We've seen the non-Alicorn royals of Equestria and they're so stuck up and expectant of praise, they do nothing to actually earn such praise, thus leading to the Snobby Elites, ponies who may indeed be royalty by birth, but do not become Alicorns due to giving their subjects literally no reason to praise them and therefore not expose them to enough magic from all 3 tribes to caused an Alicorn transformation
maybe this is just my particular interests showing through but I would love more theories on the politics of how noble houses converged as Equestria industrialized and centralized. But then I have this sort of fascination with the transition from feudalism to mercantile capitalism
I'm so glad someone could answer a possible explanation on how prince blue blood is related to princess Celestia and princess Luna. It's a theory but it's closer then I ever got. Thanks for mentioning him 🥰
I have a sort of multi-generational question/theory, we know that by the time of G5 beginning (which is still set in G4s Equestria but some time in the future apparently) magic has disappeared (I guess the main characters will do something in the movie what'll restore it and get their cutie marks in the process), I've often wondered/theorised whether or not that all the generations were not only set within the same universe but also on the same word as G4 with only a vast amount of time separating each era/gen and much of pony history of those had been lost, forgotten and barely even forgotten legend by the 'ancient' times of G4 & before Equestria was founded, I've read somewhere It's has been suggested by some G4s original Grogar might have actually been literally the original G1Grogar... Anyway, if the same world-multi-generational theory is true and this ties in the magic of Equestria disappearing, is it possible that even as far G4 (or even back as far G3 maybe) magic was already vanishing and not just Equestrian magic but form the whole Pony World... however no one noticed because there was so much magic concentrated in Equestria, particularly with the Alicorn & Unicorn ponies? (I wonder, which gen is the highest-ranking, not in popularity but in terms of magical ability & accessibility, etc..?)
I'm on the 'temporary alicorn' wagon, but I can't chose from 'royal-born' or 'fake transformation'. A princess with an ego would especially try to forcibly change her form without understanding the costs and repercussions which could further lead her nation to ruin. If being a ruler with a close relationship with ponies of all races can cause one to become an alicorn, then the revus should be true as well. Leaving the heavy work to Celestia and Luna is not only going to physically cut royal ponies off from the magic of all races but emotionally as well which is necessary to activate the true power of an alicorn.
I think the mystery alicorn being Cadance's mother (or great/grandmother perhaps?) makes perfect sense, considering Cadance's love powers as well as the flashbacks in "A Canterlot Wedding". When we see her foalsitting Twilight, she doesn't look much older than Twilight herself. Then by the time of the wedding, she's full-grown. Which means if she were the princess from "a long time ago", she would have been a foal at the time (ewww) and then somehow stayed young all that time until suddenly growing up at the same rate as regular-pony Shining Armor. Much more likely is that the princess was her mother/relative and Cadance herself was born just recently.
I personally believe that one of the 'lost alicorns' would have been Star Catcher from G3. The way she had power over the wind and the ability to let others fly with her, and the fact that we see multiple spells in G4 that allow earth ponies and unicorns to walk on clouds the same way Star Catcher did for Sky Wishes who she later taught how to use that spell to dance in the sky with her friends. Even though Star Catcher was a pegasus she was uniquely designed with markings that honestly remind me of cadence so i think maybe she was related to Cadence since Star Catcher was a pony with the power to grant wishes. Which based on your theory would've been a great reason for a Stallion to seek her out as a bride.
if the other stories are cannon, then we know that cadence is related to the previous ruler of the crystal empire which adds up hence explaining why the heartswarming story princess is an alicorn and related to the previous crystal empire ruler.
heres the thing: if the mystery alicorn isnt one of the four alicorns, we confirmed the existence of another alicorn. if it is, then we get a huge piece of backstory for one of the 3. and given the context, it would likely be cadence. so either way, this is a pretty big thing were talking about
I think that being an alicorn was a symbol of high status simply because having both wings and a horn would be stuff of legend, and having both surely meant you had a lot of power. The illustration in the hearts and hooves day origin book could just be a way to represent the princess as a very powerful, almost godlike individual. But this doesn't really help the theory and its probably not true lol
One thing ive always wondered about what with the enchanted comic in season 4 that Spike had. Was that another universe that was fixed, and if so would your theory of Starlights multiple universes end up as comics too. I would love for you too look into this if you'd want. :)
How certain are we that the two alicorn silhouettes in the Crystal Empire's backstory were Celestia and Luna? One of the fighter falling in the battle kinda makes sense. As for all the royals....... Harshwhinny listed off quite a list of titles usually associated with top levels of government. Perhaps Equestria is something of a loose federation with Celestia being both the head of the kingdom of Canterlot (which likely but not necessarily includes Ponyville) and the head of state for the body of Equestria. This also would explain why the map set a mission in the Griffin Kingdom as well as the various Griffins present at things like the Equestria games, the Friendship Summit, and Dash's flight camp. Those lands are part of Equestria but due to non-intervention clauses (a must if the separate original tribes were going to work together) no governmental intervention was possible and due to self isolation may not have even been known was needed.
The story said their kingdoms fell because they were so lost in each other's eyes they weren't ruling; that might have cost the princess her alicorn form.
Well if you remember from that episode the kingdom of that Princess and Prince crumbled because they were lost in each others eyes and were unable to do their royal duties. If we take that into account if they never looked away from each other they could have starved or been killed by invaders from another kingdom who ceased the opportunity to grow in power
Consider this: If Cadence were the child of the prince and alicorn princess, she might’ve been neglected by her parents who were just too busy staring into each other’s eyes, so maybe her mother was stripped of her wings/horn and Cadence was put up for adoption. There she would actually be cared for. Maybe Celestia and Luna had adopted Cadence’s parents (as adopted siblings, doesn’t mean they became alicorns tho) which would make Cadence their adopted niece. Maybe Blueblood is a descendant of Cadence’s adoptive parents which would also explain how he’s Celestia and Luna’s nephew.
As far as other possible alicorns missing, maybe they hide among the population in disguise. As far as I can see, although not immortal, they do seem to be ageless, so there is most likely some more out there somewhere. Ruling for hundreds or thousands of years would be tiring and they would want to pass the mantle to someone else at some point, just like the sisters did.
If I was an alicorn who recently retired, I would most likely disguise myself as a regular pony to enjoy my retirement with neither the paparazzi or fellow royalty seeking me every other day. Of course, the requirement to keeping hidden would be that I will need to change the disguise and move every several years to prevent others from realizing that I didn't age, but it would be possible.
Okay okay! I love this theory... but I wanna add a bit.
Maybe what happened to the other Alicorns happened during the attacks on equestria (ie. Discord, Sombra, etc.) This is supported by the fact that the crystal ponies seemed to see Cadence as their princess despite not knowing who she really was.
Maybe Cadence's mother was the princess of the crystal empire, but after the prince used a spell on her, they became to infatuated to realize there even WAS a danger.
We didn't get told what kingdom fell to ruins in the story, so it could have been the crystal empire. Cadence was saved by factor of not being an alicorn yet and still being a baby, too young to know what was going on.
Celestia and Luna could have saved her before the empire vanished.
I imagine other threats are also why the other Alicorns are... missing.
I think by knowing the prince we may know who the alicorn princess is. From what we learnt of Equestria's history after the defeat of wendigos they became united. Going back to the play they actually used a flag with the two sisters instead of sth else. I guess that means alicorns did exist when they were enemies but they were hardly seen. Becoming an alicorn means you get magic from all three types but to do that you need to cast a special magic or spell. Seeing that he needed to craft a love "potion" I think it was before the union. A kingdom was already being led by an alicorn. To sum it up: They are for more than thousand years ago, so they can't have anything to do with Cadence. Cadence's past might be a mystery but alicorn foals are no different than pegassi, earth ponies or unicorns. She may have accindentally found this love poisen spell in a book and decided to fix it. Since she turned it into a seemingly perfect love spell she became an alicorn. As far as I know she was an orphan until Celestia saw her potential and kept her close. Sorry if my useless bantering bored anyone who read this.😅 Edit: The love poisen may lose it's effect after one of the couples passing. The earth ponies unlike alicorns aren't immortals. Since they neglected their kindom a certain someone may have attacked and caused it to disappear. They may have been the rulers of Crystal empire. Sombra either killed them both or killed the prince and the princess crafted the heart to have it charged by true love and hold off Sombra but ended up killed or ran away and alerted the princesses Tia and Luna. Or she may have been for the time before the two sisters and was killed.
Though my question is why Shining Armor isn’t an alicorn, though again, my explanation is he doesn’t want to become one because becoming an alicorn would make him look girly.
The idea that the alicorn princess in that book may be Cadance's (or even Blueblood's) mother or ancestor sounds like a very possible idea. Also there were recent saying that I guess confirm that alicorns are not immortal and instead they are just very slow aging maybe due to their magic. I think that saying was "Twilight will not outlive her friends." Which may confirm that alicorns can have their live taken away in similar ways in how any other creature in the MLP FIM world can.
I have some questions for you to do videos on. If Alicorns re slow to age t what speed will Flurry Heart grow compared to the Cake Twins? Who will the CMC and other current foals marry and what profession will they do as adults? What would Cozy Glow be up to if she was Human, had no one to stop her , and waited until her teen years to act out her long term plan? Will the main six and Huan six marry different people? Will they there for have different children? does every one have a pony and human counterpart? fo so where re they? if not why not? and if yes are they always the same morality? Can Half breads exist? meaning Dragon/ Pony, Dragon Gryphon, Chngling/Yack etc can some one be alive in one world and dead in n other between pony and humans if Discord has children what would they look like ? Does he even reproduce the normal way? Who used the CMC tree house before them and who will use it after them? Why did we never see Babs Seed in the background of the Manehaten episodes? If Sunset had never left Equestria would she have been redeemed, would she have befriended and aided one of the other villains or gone in some other direction? Can the Map summon you to the human world? how does age, gender and species effect the main cast? what plots would change if we changed one of those factors? How many Fan head canons have been proven, disproven or left unanswered and how likely are the unanswered ones? and what happened to all the bronies? are they still in the fandom? why aren't they on Youtube?
These are all questions I have explored with fan art (Except maybe the last two which I have asked elsewhere before. )
I'm not sure it was ever settled that Alicorns as a whole have longer lives, or if that was something peculiar to the two sisters. It could be the others lived more normal lifespans and passed away when their time came. It could also be that the mare originally wasn't an Alicorn, but given the strong association of Alicorns with Princesses, the artist, possibly from a later time, just drew a fantasy couple, and made the Princess an Alicorn?
What if it's actually flurry heart? Time travel is shown to exist which could explain how the story became known by everyone and would explain the unknown story of what flurry's significance in the series really is!
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Espen the dragon2021-03-26 21:16:53 (edited 2021-03-26 21:17:21 )
Bit of a thing you could tie in is when said previous rulers started to let industsriliation though all three tribes got angry and lost their way aka the hearts warming eve story. and just like Sombra perhaps becuse of the three tribes anger the previous alicorns lost their power. We also know that Starswirl was in the Hearts warming eve story because clove of the clever mentioned him perhaps after the tribes united Starswirl knew the tribes needed a royalty figure for ruling hence Luna and Celestia coming into power. Idk just a theory feel free to bounce ideas off of this though
It'd be funny if the princess wasn't an alicorn at all. The cultural shift to associating royalty to alicornhood is present because of Celestia and Luna, so it's totally possible that the depictions of the princess changed over time to suit the changing picture of what Equestrian royalty looks like.
Hmm... You know what? I'm not sure I exactly subscribe to this headcanon myself, but I figured I'd put it out there. What if it were Chrysalis? This is pulling from the comics--which, I admittedly have very limited knowledge of, so bear with me. In the arc with the portal into the alternate dimension where everything is basically backwards--royal sisters are evil, Sombra is a kind and just leader, etc--we see Chrysalis and she looks totally different. But, the way that she looks different doesn't align with our current knowledge of changelings at all--if this is a world in which everything is backwards, wouldn't she look more like a reformed changeling? I've seen speculation that Chrysalis was the lost princess of the Crystal Empire, that something happened to her to change her species and lead to the creation of changelings as a whole--I can't remember who this theory comes from, or if I'm pulling from multiple at once, so apologies! But if so... What if that version of Chrysalis we see in that arc of the comics is Chrysalis before all that happened? Better yet... What if the event with the love potion is what caused all that to happen? I mean, changelings have a massive tie to love--they feed off of it, they need it to survive. And this could explain why there's allusion to an alicorn in history that we've never heard of before--she was an alicorn, just... Well... Isn't really a pony anymore. Again, I'm not sure if I subscribe to this myself, and your theory probably makes more sense. I just figured I'd put it out there since it popped into my head after watching this video and seeing an image of alternate universe Chrysalis! Love your videos dude, it makes me super happy to see people continue to make MLP content and bring new ideas to the table even after the series has ended <3
Well.. there couldn't have been royal kingdoms before celestia and Luna because it's clearly mentioned that ponies were seperated as tribes.. and their leaders weren't alicorns, they were a pony of their tribe.🤔
To be honest, there's nothing that indicates that it has to be a story about two equestrian rulers. It could have been two rulers from outside of Equestria
Wait, what if the alicorn in the story is Princess Amore? Amore means love in Italian and that was kind of her destiny in a way...to be influenced by a love spell
The alicorn could be the princess of crystal empire, because when Candence was Flying with the Crystal Heart One pony said "The crystal princess" and those ponies, they were there for ages. And, the Crystal empire could have been taken by the King Sombra because of the love spell, because the royalty was not there.
What if all the other rulers step back because of what happened to Luna? There was a fear that because Luna was changed because of her jealousy/despair that other alicorns might fall into the same fate? So they were disbanded and Celestia was left to be the one true ruler?
Maybe this is why cadence was just a babysitter before Luna made her return?
Is it just me, or is it noticeable that in the picture, the princess is an alicorn? I mean, if you look closely, you can see wings and of course, the horn. Maybe that is Cadence's mother, since, they both have the same powers. I think it links up.
If I could venture a guess, I would say that that alicorn would probably be somepony that wasn’t made aware to us and I would also say that it might even be one of the ponies that was brought to light in the play representing the beginning of Equestria
Ok here my thing. I don't consider the crystal heart spell thing cannon but I'll take a few ideas. The princess and prince depicted in the book are cadence's parents. They get put under the love potion while the rule the crystal empire, and sombra realizes that he can use their weakness to conquer the empire. Cadence a young foal barely escapes the edge of where the crystal empire. She is found by the earthpoines who adopt her. Eventually she meets Celestia because she is a alicorn. Even though she seems to be rather young when she foalsits twilight I'm guessing that alicorns grow very slowly so they can stay somewhat immortal. Her parents were killed or banished by sombra when he took over the empire and Celestia didn't know they had a kid until she meets cadence when she puts two and two together. This is why she has the Crystal Heart as a cutie mark despite not getting until after the empire disappears. Because cutie marks aren't always perfectly literall to how they got them. When the crystal empire returns that's why Celestia knows to send her. Additionally this is supported by the fact that a crystal pony knows she is "the crystal princess" because they saw her as a baby. Because otherwise how would they know that with such certainty? Ok that is my thoughts. Edit: I know "the birth of an alicorn is something Equestria has never seen" but maybe there was a miscommunication between Cadence and Celestia and Celestia believed she was born a Pegasus and earned her horn later before she met Celestia. Because Celestia didn't believe it was possible to be born an alicorn and Cadence was too young to tell her otherwise.
I have an idea. What if they were the royals of the crystal empire before cadence. They are pretty much the only royals that we have heard of over 1000 years.
If there really were multiple alicorns and royal families then maybe when princess Celestia and Luna started being the main focus and rulers of Equestria after awhile then the other alicorns could've decided that they should have their powers or magic taken away as there was no point in keeping them and that's why there aren't any other known alicorns other than Celestia, Luna, Cadence, Flurry Heart, and Twilight.
I heard about theory that the princess in the story was actually chrysalis, and because of the potion she forgot about her kingdom and that's why it was ruined. I really like this theory maybe it has something to it
I think your on the right track. I kinda thought the same that they can be cadence's parents. And I love your videos. You are 1000000000000IQ about my little pony. ❤🎀
So Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s nephew, and Princess Cadence is Celestia’s niece. But Celestia doesn’t have any other siblings other than Luna that we know of. So either Blueblood is Luna’s son and Cadence is Luna’s daughter, or they’re the offspring of another sibling of Celestia and Luna.
This theory kinda explains the presence of princess skylar, princess sterling and princess gold lily, Léon, and the alicorn statue in "Castle mane-ia". However, there's a certain comic character that this theory brought back to my mind. Queen parabola. If you don't know, Queen Parabola is a pre-equestrian alicorn. Before celestia and luna. I know the comics aren't exactly canon, but where does she fit into this theory?
You pointed out that we don't know how old Cadance is. But that's true for every pony and creature in MLP. The only indicators of age that we actually have is that Celestia and Luna have to be over 1000 years old, that Celestia specifically has to be over 1,111 years old, and that if the number of candles is to be believed, Rainbow Dash turns 21 in Pinkie Pride.
As for the princess in that story, we don't actually know if she was actually an alicorn in the first place. We just know that that artist's rendition of her was an alicorn.
As for Prince Blueblood, he's only a prince because he's actually related to Celestia by blood. He's distantly related, but if you go back far enough, Blueblood's lineage can be traced back to Celestia. Cadance wasn't born an alicorn. But interestingly enough, she is descended from a royal family. She's the descendant of Princess Amore, the true ruler of the Crystal Empire before King Sombra usurped the throne. And Princess Amore was a unicorn, not an alicorn. And unlike Blueblood, who's actually related to Celestia by blood, Cadance's relationship with Celestia is through adoption.
Christalis likely had to deal with the effects of love poison as a younger princess, and went on to raise a child. Unfortunatly, even if the two were able to eek out a survivable life style under the effects of the poison, ponies don't live forever. The prince died, leaving Chrisalis in an emotionally destroyed state.
Because of this, the alicorn came to reject love, and moved to destroy it, even if she was dependant on it to survive. She passed this on to her children, of which she had many, and over time became more and more broken.
This makes Christalis's encounter with the CMC even harder on her, because these young foolish ponies are constantly reminding her of the trauma buried deep within her mind.
Princess Cadence was Pegasus so is dad Pegasus while mom was alicorn or could be very Great great sometimes granddaughter. Blue-blood is a very distant nephew of Celestia but she just calls him nephew So Cadence would be the same as that as well blueblood.
There is a society of alicorns, born and raised. Maybe the prince fell for an alicorn from this alicorn society...the princess alicorn from the same society princess Celestia and princess Luna came from. Perhaps this alicorn and this earth/pegasus had a union which spawned Cadence. That would fit if the prince was a pegasus, because Cadence was born a pegasus.
It turns out that there IS a third royal sister (or brother)! Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s Nephew meaning that either Luna had a son or that there is a third sister (or brother) who is this long lost sibling and where are they now?
It turns out that there IS a third royal sister (or brother)! Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s Nephew meaning that either Luna had a son or that there is a third sister (or brother) who is this long lost sibling and where are they now?
It turns out that there IS a third royal sister (or brother)! Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s Nephew meaning that either Luna had a son or that there is a third sister (or brother) who is this long lost sibling and where are they now?
It turns out that there IS a third royal sister (or brother)! Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s Nephew meaning that either Luna had a son or that there is a third sister (or brother) who is this long lost sibling and where are they now?
It turns out that there IS a third royal sister (or brother)! Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s Nephew meaning that either Luna had a son or that there is a third sister (or brother) who is this long lost sibling and where are they now?
It turns out that there IS a third royal sister (or brother)! Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s Nephew meaning that either Luna had a son or that there is a third sister (or brother) who is this long lost sibling and where are they now?
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Linda Konadu2021-03-27 06:15:26 (edited 2021-03-29 07:12:00 )
In my little pony equestria girls the previous professor of Crystal high she could be the mother of cadence in the pony world and lost her alicorn magic
Hey in one of your videos you had said that celstia and Luna were naturals so their hair was wavy and cadence and twilight were artificial so they did not have wavy hair, but in the future twilight had wavy hair! Please explain this
Flurry Heart is the only BORN Alicorn, thus your assumption is wrong, they said it themselves. And what about the play in Heart's warming eve; Rarity played a royal part but she wasn't an alicorn.
alright so heres what i think, and buckle down cus i have a tendency to ramble before equestria was founded, and before the tribes were split up, there was a kingdom that was ruled by "princess heartsong" as ill be calling her and her family. with other royal families handling more localised politics of a region (kinda like how in the usa theres a president and congress, but theres also state governers and city mayors). now heartsong had only recently been passed on the crown and appointed the ultimate leader of the kingdom, and at her first conference who sees and falls in love with her at first sight? the very prince in the hearts and hooves day story. as time went on he bribed various mages to work on a love potion, which he then gave to the princess and to himself under the pretense of a private diplomatical dinner. yada yada they "fall in love" and the kingdom collapses. after the kingdom collapsed a lot of ponies blamed unicorns for the magic that had torn the kingdom down, unicorns blamed the earth ponies, for not taking responsibility of the prince who had been the very same as them. pegasi tried to keep the peace for a short while until both unicorns and earth ponies deemed them brutes for trying to intervene by forcibly seperating those who had been fighting. times goes on and the tribes grow distant, only interacting when nessecary. and along comes the windagos woop dee doo dah! and the rest is history.
Even Blueblood could be that heart and hooves couple's offspring...he does have the pushy and manipulative nature of someone that would make a love potion, somewhat atleast😂
As for Cadence...well, there's the Crystal Heart Spell and Princess Mi Amore in the Crystal Empire from the Journal Of The Two Sisters...*perhaps her mom was the alicorn in the spell and the ruler of the crystal empire (Princess Mi Amore), after the love spell "her kingdom fell" which led to King Sombra and the eventual disappearance of the entire empire. But when the ponies were fleeing during the sister's battle with him, baby cadence may have escaped before his curse and been found in the woods!!!!*
As for Cadence...well, there's the Crystal Heart Spell and Princess Mi Amore in the Crystal Empire from the Journal Of The Two Sisters... WAIT!!!! perhaps her mom was the alicorn in the spell and the ruler of the crystal empire (Princess Mi Amore), after the love spell "her kingdom fell" which led to King Sombra and the eventual disappearance of the entire empire. But when the ponies were fleeing during the sisters battle with him, baby cadence may have escaped before his curse and been found in the woods!!!!
Lmao, that would also explain Flurry Heart!! Cadence had the Alicorn gene in her from her mom and herself during her transformation (bcuz the empire's disappearance led to the disappearance of her horn), so out of luck (and maybe the sheer strength of Shining Amour's magic+Cadence's initial form as a pegasus) Flurry was born an alicorn wow, I went full on out🤣 Sawtooth's vid rlly evoke some very creative thinking🤣🤣
You become an Alicorn by Creating New Magic just like Twilight, she created FrIeNdsHiP so if Cadance's Mother is an Alicorn ..what magic does she have??
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but we didn't see the princess's wings in the story, so what if she was just like prince blueblood, given the title of prince or princess but doesn't have any wings.
Though I think it’s Luna because Clestia has one sister and Cadence is a crystal pony maybe the story of the hearts and hooves thing could be from the crystal empire because they have the crystal heart a pony could have used the crystal heart to make the spell and to make cadence a alicorn with the 2 lovers. Blue blood looks like Luna the father of blue blood is a mystery. Well that’s my theory XD
i want male alicorn :< if every of alicorn represent some kind of love (Celestia god like, Luna mother care, Candance romantic, T wiligh- frendship and fluury-kid's love to the world) i like to have male alicorn with farther-teacher-love tipe
It could be another princess look back at the two sister castle there are 3 stained Windows one sun another moon but what does the middle one represent?
Mabey the crystal place and the first Queen in crystal empirer could be in the book and that could mean the king who tried to rool the crystal empireer could be Kadeins dad and the first queen in the crystal empirer could be a Alicorn and could also be Kadeins mom
Oooo 🤔 that actually makes sense. What if some had moved beyond equestria ? *Edit: the evil guy that traded ponies in mlp the movie knew what twilight was, if I remember correctly.
heres my last comment on this one. this one puzzled me so that means u did good saw. i hope what i figure out on ur vids helps u get closer with theories. also sorry for busting your theory's. Bro hoof?
its her mother totally what was in her mother that was love passed to her daughter or maybe cadence is the sister of that story princess so it is going to take alot of time to discover there mother
what if prince blueblood is the stallion in the book and cadence is the alicorn, but seeing Big Mac and Cheerilee after the love poison, they didnt turn out well, so maybe somepony broke the curse and cadence and prince blueblood are now.. exes? like how Big Mac is with Sugar Belle now and not Cheerilee (i forgot how to spell her name aaa)
Ok i hope you veiw this, I was watching the canterlot wedding again and I paused it to go get a snack, and I read the description and it said: Twilight is confused by her conflicting feelings when she finds out that her brother, shining armor, is going to be married to CELESTIAS NEICE MI AMORE'S aperance Princess celestia only has ONE sister Princess luna, So who's kid is cadence?
Maybe it was Twilights secret parent's and she was adopted or who knows maybe her brother just didn't remember so that's why it never came up or he didn't remember or Luna or Tia's mom
So if Cadence was born as an alicorn then she is the first pony to be born as an alicorn not flurry so the royal sisters are lying when they said the birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen they probably seen cadence born as an alicorn
0:52 her mother is princess Mi Amore (just like cadence's name) but she's not an Alicorn, she's a unicorn.. But before princess Celestia saw her princess Cadence is a pegasus.. How is that possible if her dad was a earth pony!?
Eve said that Alicorns had magic of the three tribes.. then why didn't Starlight simer Boise Sunset glimmer I mean still like glimmer and Sunset Shimmer never mind why didn't Starlight glimmer or the other one become alicorns they are as powerful as Twilight and they are all unicorns
Hello brony notion i got a theory about scootaloo because when she grew up in the grand season finale we all see that scootaloo swings are still small is that mean she never flew her whole life i want you to investigate this theory i have and hopefully there's an answer to brony notion
What if the red Equestria gem that supposed to be samba's gem is actually betrayed element just like Sunset Shimmer betrayed Equestria and is the forgiving an element just like in Equestria
it cant be princess amore or it could be i mean ..its saidcadance was a pegasus and celestia made her princess of love fanarts say amore princess amore was her mom but you know i dont know
Does anyone thinks that.. Tricksie has a brother??? Because on season 8 when rainbow dash really wanted to ride the wild blue yonder, before that.. The grannies were in a magic show with two magicians, the other one has The EXACT same color like Tricksie and their both Unicorns so, what do you guys think that Tricksie really HAD a brother?
what if cadens mom is princess amore since she and cadencs have bothe beginings on a comic but its allsow that they bothe ruele the crystal empire ??????
Hi. Bro I know that this is not the video for this comment. But I just wandering that when starlight chenge the past and it effected in the present and Twilight has no friends. so why didn't she lose her wings. I mean that Twilight is afterall the princess of friendship. So this is obvious.that she should lose. her wings. and more importantly why didn't her city mark chenge I mean that if the rainboom didn't even happen in the past so what scared her in the entrance exam. of calestias school and in that exam she scared for the sound of the rainboom and blast the egg with her magic and then her city mark appears. So what happened. It makes no sence.😰🤕😭😭😭😭 And same goes for her friends so how did they get there cutie mark. did there cutie mark chenge.why didn't she chenge even a little bit.🤔🤔🤔. Her friends chenge properly. so why didn't she. And please someone give me the answer.😭😭😭 goodbye.😇😇
I recon the princess in the story is cadence’s mother mainly because cadence looks like she is around twilights age when we first see her and the alicorn we see in the story looks nothing like cadence
that's so interesting, cause chrysalis somehow knew about the mines under canterlot castle that hadn't been used for years. both have an unhealthy relationship with love too, I'll have to look at her video
Baby babies that that Alicorn I said baby baby rat Alicorn is well you know Cadence but like oh like a long time ago and when they were full here has like in love with her but he wasn't a unicorn cuz you see no horn so he decided to like mix up a potion since you couldn't just grant one cuz he's out of unicorn to make to to get to her and he thought that he maybe the drink would Inspire her to like like her him her I'm not
No I know what I think that’s princess some more if it’s not OK then I’m gonna remember not princess mall is different no pony from the pony I don’t know I thought like a princess so long I was like what cancels the first war
I liked this theory. The latest theories helped me answer some questions. Flurry Heart ; Alicorns were never born, but only became, which is confirmed by the reaction of Celestia and Luna. So it becomes clear why a twilight light being an alicorn will not outlive its friends. She is just a pony with the magic of 3 types of ponies. Celestia and Luna are a different matter. Their long life becomes an anomaly. I don't have a good explanation for this, so I won't say anything.
great video! I like the theory of the alicorn from the heart and hooves day being queen chrysalis before she was turned into a changeling by a curse or a powerful spell. To me, it makes sense as Changelings use to feed off love, but that's just my own thought on it
Excitement level always jumps up whenever there’s something after the bro hoof 😁 And hey, does anyone have any theories to what sunset did after she entered the portal? Like wth she just finds a house to live in and never has a problem with her human counterpart???
That's a pretty interesting theory plus that could explain why a lot of ponies aren't very astonished by an alicorn (seriously if you look at all the times Twilight had to go outside of Ponyville most ponies were like "yeah this pony is totally like the others")
For the other alicorns I have the hypothesis all the alicorns we saw in the background may not be animations error but instead be the other alicorns !
Then I have a question: in the storybook, that pony was an alicorn before the love potion, so she was an alicorn when she gave birth to Cadance. You have theorized before that no alicorn has ever given birth, that's why flurry heart was such a surprise. So, if cadence was birthed by an alicorn and turned out to be a normal pony, what is the reason for flurry heart being an alicorn? Will it just remain a mystery?
Well, with so many conflicts and hardships in Equestria's past, they may have passed from natural, non-age related causes, or been killed in a war or battle. The nation may have made something of a tradition where royalty of a certain caliber or who achieved something of significance to its development were made alicorns, much like Celestia and Luna.
Due to their powerful abilities and high status, however, they were most likely to lead a conflict or be targeted, and this may explain why the sisters are the last 'true' royals. Cadance may be the child of a fellow royal who, after stepping down from her throne due to the danger it posed to unborn Cadance, was killed or possibly died in childbirth, and as such Cadance was taken under Celestia's wing.
Hidden Alicorns could still exist, but I doubt they would be able to maintain the magic of all three tribes enough to keep their Alicorn magic. Plus, with all of the powerful villains Equestria has faced, who's to say they didn't try to step in before it got too bad, only to be killed? 🤔 Just a few thoughts, hope they make sense!
I have a theory of how this might have happened and it goes like this: "Once there was a beautiful Pegasus who was smart and kind, everypony loved her.At that time there was no one to rule that land and they were not sure what to do because with no ruler there was no order they needed some pony to fill that spot.So the Pegasus stepped forward and offered to become their new ruler.Everyone was so happy the tree ponys bowed down and all the happyness they felt flowed into her, and the magic of the three tribes flowed into her making her the first Alicorn.Then they realized that it might be hard for just her to rule so they chose a few more ponies to rule.They made an alicorn for each of the kingdoms.Soon the queens fell in love and had alicorn kids everyone was happy.Untill they saw another opportunity for a ruler so they made her a alicorn princess.But she was mad she did not want to be a princess so with her new powers she placed a curse.She made all alicorns dissapeer forever including herself and said that no alicorn baby shall ever be born again.But she was not all evil she knew what she did was wrong so she also put in:Years later 2 earth ponies shall become alicorns so they can keep peace.It was done all alicorns vanished forrever and the only sighn they ever exsisted was the curse that soon became a legand.But when the rulers dissapeered and there was no one to keep peace the three ponies fought for power and soon they formed the three tribes and went to war!Years later a unicorn was born a unicorn who loved to read his name was star swirl the legand of the allicorn was his favorite.Now this was still during the war and he grew up in that time too the legand was one thing that Kept him happy durring those hard times.Now soon the war was over and equestria was made and star swirl thought they needed rulers.And then he found them the two earth ponies of the legand Celestia and Luna.He introduced equestria to their new rulers and they joy they felt flowed into them they became alicorns.And I must sa y anothr thing the angry alicorns spell failed the only part that worked was vanishing al those alicorns.Soon Celestia found Cadance and made with the magic of the three tries she possesed she made her an alicorn!now years passed she made twilight an alicorn and then came flurry heart...Everypony was shoked because they thoght that part of the legand was true you now the part where no alicorn would be born and that was why everypony was shocked when one was" The end let me now your thoughts on my theory or if I guess fan fiction.
Well, we saw a few Alicorns in Equestria. Maybe those are the ones you’re talking about. Maybe they choose to do what they want to do. Some joined the royal Guards, other just took normal jobs, enjoying their life
Maybe there where a bunch of alicorns after all in that one Daring Do episode there was a Alicorn painting in the temple, and it kinda looked like Nightmare Moon. But given that Nightmare Moon came after the time of the temples prime, there must have been multiple alicorn in history in different parts of the world, for the association with royalty to be so ingrained in the culture
A small theory came to mind: I saw a comment on how maybe the old royalty didn’t get enough love and attention so they turned back into normal ponies. But maybe they didn’t stop there... We saw some evil average ponies throughout the show like Sunset, Starlight, and Cozy Glow. We may know about some of their pasts but not their great ancestors. What I’m thinking is when the old royalties turned into average ponies, they kept trying to rip the magic out of all of the tribes to become powerful again. And when they didn’t succeed, maybe their children wanted their ancestors to become powerful by making them selves powerful in their names, Like Cozy Glow. We obviously don’t know anything about Cozy, but this could be some sort of possibility. Maybe she just wanted to suck all of the magic away from Equestria because she wanted everyone else to know what it feels like to have magic and a purpose taken away from them... Although this may be just some silly theory
I have a theory on Queen Chrysalis and that is that some time in the future, thorax and his new colony might be dying out (since only she can create new changlings) so theyll reach out to cadence and flurry heart (if they really represent motherhood relationships) and theyll free chrysalis. If she was their mother as well itd only make sense that people who understand those bonds would be able to repair her (second time posting ;P)
The reason why the old alicorns have been lost to time could be because they were no longer supplied with the magic of the three pony races. Perhaps losing rank caused them to lose their alicorn-hood?
From what I remember Cadence was born a Pegasus and was a descendant to Princes Amore. The last crystal princess before Sombra Took over, granted Princess Amore was a unicorn but I don’t even know how far along the tree goes let alone who was the Prince that ruled by Princess Amores side
Not gonna lie, I support this idea that the Alicorn in the story is Cadance's Mother, it seems more likely to me, sure it raises it's own questions, but I feel it's not only more interesting to think about but also brings up less questions about Cadance's timeline. I am a little considered about what's going to happen to Sawtooth with the way the video ended, but I think he should be okay, theoretically, hopefully.
you should really read the fiendship is magic comic about Sombra. It's heavily hinted Cadence descends from Princess Amore, the first crystal princess.
1:48 like my OC. I like to say that she became an alicorn from the determination of wanting to impress Luna. (My OC is the princess of the stars, her job is to arrange the stars in the sky every night)
I think Luna could be the alicorn in the story. We have no idea who the male is, so she could have been heartbroken and never seen him again. They could have had 2 children (prince blue blood and princess cadence) but they were lost (during some war or something I don’t know) and they were found again taken under celestia’s wing(pun intended) and raised kind of as her own. They seemed like family to her but not her own kids. Luna had a close relationship with them because they were her kids. But she didn’t recognize them because they were foal when they were lost or stolen or whatever. That’s my theory. My horse theory! Aaaaaand brohoof. (Mix of your outro and matpat’s outro)
I wanna say that for born alicorns they age like regular ponies until they get to a certain age and completely stop aging, for alicrons who earn their wings I assume they only live for 1,000 years.
The mare could easily be cadences mother, The love potion could possibly cause cadences powers, Her parents falling in love so much from the potion would end up making her see the love in the world and deciding to bring other ponys together in such harmony.
Maybe in the futur, the grown up Flurry Heart went to the past and make that thing happened. Or maybe that princess was not really an alicorn but they represented her as an alicorn in the book.
If you look back, you can remember in the episodes games ponies play and the crystalline episode the ponies mention alicorn princesses ruling the crystal empire. So we do know that there were indeed many other alicorns in the past.
My theory is that the only reason those alicorns aren’t around anymore is because unlike Celestia, Luna, and possibly Twilight they were mortal like Cadence and Flurry Heart
This makes a lot of sense, but with the theory that Cadence was born an alicorn, Celestia's comment about never seeing an alicorn born when Flurry Heart was born just doesn't seem to make sense... great theory though, keep it up!
There's one possibility I have been thinking of that no one mentioned. Chrysalis. Now as far as I'm aware, there isn't any history we know of about chrysalis impart from that she used to be the Changeling Queen, before the changelings were reformed in the show. However, what about before? It is possible she could've been born a changeling and was of royalty. But to me, if she's classed as an alicorn despite her wings being of an insect, then a tragic backstory like hearts and hooves day could explain her revenge for the ponies and why she wants to feed off love.
Let's say this for example: Princess Chrysalis used to be a pony alicorn who the Prince yearned for, when the potion took effect, they were in a forced love and the kingdom fell to ruin because of the side effects. Because of this, the Prince had randomly disappeared, leaving Princess Chrysalis alone, a scorned lover. Because of the potion, Chrysalis transformed into a changeling along with her subjects since this forced love was corrupting her soul, manifesting in her remaining subjects.
Because of this story, we see why chrysalis feeds on love, wants to destroy cadence, take revenge on the ponies and so on. She wanted revenge because of the potion. And to do this she must absorb love: a feeling that was forced into her system and cannot leave.
There may be a lot of plot holes I'm missing. But feel free to let me know your thoughts :))
if cadance is the "crystal princess" then one of her parents must've been crystal empire royalty, maybe far before sombra's reign just imagine when he attacked the crystal empire he defeated the couple and they left cadance until another pony couple picked her up and raised her before she met celestia? i mean it kinda adds up
Cadence being a decendant of the alicorn from the book fits better because she was not born at the time the book was made. (I left a really long comment on the previous video explaining that and I don't feel like repeating it). This would also explain a line that I have been trying to understand for years: "Behold! The Crystal Princess!" The reason that Crystal pony who has been away for 1000 years would recognize her as the Crystal princess is because she resembles one of her ancestors, maybe her mother depending on how long her mother lived for.
Hmm I like the theory of royalty that gets praise from all the types of ponies becoming an alicorn. However I dont think just plain praise would be enough, or else the mayor of ponyville would be one. I think it's more likely that it would only happen if the leader absorbed their magic as well. Nowwwww what object is known for absorbing the love and joy of its empire and spreading it through the kingdom and its rulers... I think this theory only works in one instance. The crystal empire. Princess Aurora. Aka the "crystal princess" that the one background pony shouted when princess cadence flew in with the crystal heart. If she resembled her mother, the previous crystal princess, the one who became an alicorn after years of working with the crystal heart the story would match up. (It would completely conflict with the book sadly but they're not always canon.)
Edit Did some research. Not princess Aurora. Its princess Amore. And looking at the timeline it makes more sense for her to be an ancestor since she was a unicorn around when the first crystal fair was held. If the joirnal of the two sisters is cannon, and we already know the tale of magic draining from unicorns raising the sun is, than that could mean princess Amore who is mentioned to be the first crystal princess would be an ancestor to a line of royalty who turn into alicorn through using the crystal heart for their kingdom. The decendent involved in the love potion/poison could also have happened around the time of sombra which would explain how quickly the empire went to ruin without its magic infused leaders to defend the kingdom.
Well one question, will cadence and flurry both outlive shinning? That would miserably sad I cannot imagine a cadence without shinning :( what do you think?
I don’t think this alicorn is connected to anyone in modern day MLP, but is rather from a long line of lords. My hypothesis is that, since the Crystal Kingdoms first “queen” (princess) was apparently Princess Amore, there was a more lord type situation with the kingdom beforehand. There was probably a long time of the kingdom having reigning lords, which of course had important families and often heirs and what I think is that there was an especially beautiful unicorn princess, and because of her outstanding admiration by her people she became an alicorn and was probably named as heir, this would resort in an alicorn princess as alicorns have been shown to be seen as greater and more powerful! Later because of the kingdom falling into ruin Princess Amore, who is probably Cadence’s great grandmother stood up to the plate and started the royalty line which was cut short by Sombra.
My theory: Alicorn does not mean immortal, only immortal ponies are Tia/Luna [god-tier alicorn]. There have been lots of alicorns that died of old like normal ponies.
In my dream things got confusing first off flurry heart got forced to be dealicorned and the alicorn was involved of my Injuries of a half my face gone and my arm got busted and my chest was smashed and had a hammer stuck in and had the idea of using the parts of a entity like the alicorn known as the korn makyr and her mind became my a I companion
I just want to point out I doubt there were any alicorn Royalty bc in Heartwarming ep the ponies which split up into different tribes which meant there weren't any kingdoms which combines all 3 elements until after Equestria was made and I'm guessing that if there was a case like a love position wouldn't Star swirl and the old elements stop it bc it ruined there kingdom and even if it was after they went to Limbo would Equestria have already been ruled by Luna and Celestia and they would have stopped it
Btw I recently found out that your theory about Alicorns not just having wings and a horn, but actually having magic of all three tribes is true. It’s confirmed in baby flurry heart’s scrapbook thing episode 3 “all about alicorns”. Pinky says that flurry heart is not a Pegasus, unicorn or earth pony, but that she’s an alicorn, someone who has wings, a horn AND is tied to the land. That’s basically confirms it, right?
it's too bad mlp misses so many backstoryes. We never got to know how celestia and luna became alicorns, queen crysalis's backstory or why cozy glow was like this
The theory is nice, but you're forgetting: an alicorn birth only ever happened once, and that was with Flurry Heart. And going off of the Alicorn theory, Cadence would have to be born an alicorn for the princess in the story to be her mother (because of the magic being passed down). And given that it was stated by celestia that Flurry was the first alicorn birth, that can't be the case. I feel as though it would be more likely that the story (and thus the characters in it) pre-date Cadence entirely.
My theory is not about the alicorns, it’s about the flowing mains of the alicorn sisters.
What if their flowing main is just something alicorns get when they get a certain level of power. Like, in the final episode of generation 6, we see twilight having the flowing main like the two sisters. Maybe, celestia and Luna had to go through some old tradition or something else that gave them the power to have the flowing main. Take, for example, the clan leaders from warrior cats; when they are chosen to become leaders, they go to a special place and go to their version of heaven (starclan) and have spirits give their life and essence to the new leader and give them 9 lives to live through. So, what if something similar happened to twilight. This is just my theory. (If this sparked a theory of your own, please credit me, sawtooth)
And what about Princess Amore? I know that she appears only in comics, but the comics are canon you know? Even, if Princess Amore is Cadence's mother, how is possible that she born as an pegasus, instead as a alicorn?
I think that the princes from "Hearts and hooves day" is actually Cadences mother, but she was much elder than Celestia and Luna. Mabye Cadence has much older siblings and She is the youngest. But part of them move on and the other part including the father died in war or some thing. Just a fact!!
Thinking, an ex alicorn might be the one who got the princes under the spell, I do have the theory that King Sombra might be implicated, he was after all the king in the Cristal Empire before Cadence, about the princess, I don't know if that make any sense but I have for some reason the hard belive that is Crisalid, after all, they are kinda the only alicorns that we know for sure that ruled over the Cristal Empire and also became in the end King and Queen, so for sure they had a higher position before Luna and Celestia before they came into the story. We once saw that Crisalid must be the princess of love if the universes were reversed in the My Little Pony comics, but still the princess in the story doesn't seem to look like Crisalid, maybe is just an ilustration like in other fairy tales and actually were her and King Sombra or maybe not.
Just a small theory but maybe the alicorn shown in the story is actually the one that the crystal pony’s called “the crystal princess” if the alicorns powers where associated with the love of the empire it might be that she’s part of the same story, the love potion only lasted for a certain amount of time so maybe after the potion wore of we don’t see anymore of the other pony. I’m not so sure on sombre being the prince however maybe the alicorns disappearance is because of Sombras take over. If cadence is the daughter of that alicorn it would then further explain why the crystal ponies recognized her so quickly and why she now rules the empire with shining and to further fall to flurry heart.
I do think the Alcorn was cadences mother and the previous ruler of the Crystal Empire if you think about it the council was there before king Sombra meeting that was another ruler before hand but because of the spell she was taken away from her duty and cadence potentially being too young let the Crystal Empire defenseless to the attack of King Sombra
What if the princess in the tale was chrysalis, think about it for a moment. Chrysalis is one of the most mysterious characters in the show. The pony in the tale could be chrysalis before she could have been cast by a spell or hatred boiled over her after what the prince did to her. Chrysalis could have been the first changeling ( if I spelled it right) then all other changelings could be people that were effected like the princess was, that would explain why all changelings steal love, so they can be appreciated and loved. Let me know what you think
There is a mlp book it’s called the Journal of the 2 sisters and they talked about a whole village of alicorns and that’s the place Luna and celesta grew up in so that alicorn in the book could be one of them (the book is cannon)
Princess Amore, maybe? If you don't know, in the King Sombra origin story MLP comic, the Crystal Empire was ruled by Princess Amore at the time. Radiant Hope's future was as an alicorn princess, too. Radiant Hope was Sombra's bff. Until he turned evil, that is. It's possible that the alicorn in the story is Princess Amore, which could be Cadance's mother.
Okay, but another question. What about pony celebrities? People go crazy for celebrities! Wouldn't it be possible for them to get love from all three tribes and become an alicorn?? Even if temporarily?
Kinda thinking she could be, or is somehow correlated with Chrysalis? like it kinda makes sense, Chrysalis feeds off love and her “kingdom” seemed dystopian. just some food for thought :)
I can see why you'd think that she could be Cadence's mother. However, if she was Cadence's mom, then why wasn't Cadence born as an alicorn the way that Flurry Heart was born as an alicorn? Celestia said that Flurry was the first pony to be born as an alicorn and this is clearly due to having an alicorn parent. If Cadence is a result of the love seen in the story when the mother is already an alicorn, then Cadence would have been born as an alicorn before Flurry was.
I think the secret Alicron princess from the story could be Queen chrysalis I mean she has the body and height even a horn of a powerful Alicorn. Whos to say she couldn't have been that princess from the hearts and hooves day story. And for all we know she could Cadences mother as well. I have my head cannon from Ink Roses story on how Queen chrysalis came to be I highly recommend listening to her head cannon stories they seem to link a lot of holes in the show.
Guy's i have a question, How did rarity survive on the moon in nightmare rarity arc? I mean, i know it's magical land of Equestria and no horse or Pony ever sent to space irl but if we take same aspects of real life, she cannot survive more than 15 sec in the space, i know that luna, twilight and the rest of mane 6 is literally dragging moon close to Equestria surface and by that there's at least some part of the moon that get covered by atmosphere but that's was atleast good 30 to 90 minutes after the kidnappings happen (ponynapped?) So what did you guys think?
i know it's silly and kinda out dated but this just randomly crossed my mind
My personal head cannon is that the pony in the story is Cadances mother. And she used to rule the Crystal Empire. But then Sombra killed her and her husband, the king, in his quest for power. We know ponies can die, although not often outside of old age, as seen by AppleJacks parents. In one of the split timelines Starlight causes there’s a war with Sombra. It’s easy to assume that there was a similar war when he took over the first time which probably happened after he killed the Royal Family which eventually led to the Crystal Ponies enslavement. I think Cadance is always so close in all the flashbacks to Celestia or Canterlot in general because she was probably rescued but Celestia couldn’t save the rest of the family from Sombra. It just doesn’t make since for Sombra to take over so easily even if he just enslaved everypony. Even somepony as evil as him. Also could you talk about how alicorns get virtually eternal life? Celestia looks the same as she did when Granny Smith was a kid and also the same 1000 years prior. Also how Luna reverted back to how she looked when she was younger than the main 6 and then grew up so quickly to where she’s the same appearance of age as Celestia. Maybe her body is just correcting itself after being gone 1000 years. Idk
How about Crysalis? Maybe she is that princess - the spell of love can destroyed Crysalis years ago... Thats why she is like this now (and she looks like a princess)
I think it could be Cadence but as You Say They started to see alicorns as roialty, mabey that princess wasn't actualy an alicorn and they draw her like that just because She was roialty
I actually suggested this idea before I watched the video and I wrote a comment saying that she may be the daughter of the love princess in the story so this theory is copyrighted 😸
Yeah but if Cadence is the daughter of alicorn....you're gonna hate this.... "A birth of an alicorn is something Equestria has never seen..." /_\ Or are you saying mother and daughter became alicorns at different time? Thats possible.
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Hmm.. well.. it could also be chrysalis? Cuz wasn't she the old princess of love? Just a random thought. Edit : and the prince could've been a younger sombra!
Idk if you’ve done a video about this, but what about the video of what happened to Sunset Shimmer in the EG universe? We are counters for all except for her. Interesting theory: she killed/tied up her counter so that she could take her place
Cadance isn't the one in the Hearts and Hooves Day story, because wasn't likely born yet. It seems more like she is somewhere around the age of Shining Armor. Twilight is likely 10 years younger than Shining Armor. I think Cadance is off of Celestia' and Luna's brother. They're likely all off of Princess, Platinum and Prince, Puddinghead with the othe pegasi and kirin missing in later.
Sawtooth I think that the alicorn in the hearts and hooths day is no other then a previous CRYSTAL PRINCESS! I know it sounds strange but remember season 3. One of the crystal ponies sayed "THE CRYSTAL PRINCESS" like there were before Cadence. Maybe that alicorn became an alicorn through the crystal heart because prob more ponies knew about the crystal fare and prob it wasn't just crystal ponies. But tell me what you think? Is the unknown alicorn a previous crystal pony or maybe I am just wanting more fantasy? I am a person on the internet and mama mia papa pia this was an interesting video.
I knew it I knew it I knew what I said in the last video that the Alan corn from heart and hose day is related to kadence Because For a while if you remember correctly she was a pegasus and then she became in our court Plus I think that I'm something happened to cadences mother because There's this song Book and it says that cadence wasn't always an hour corn She used to be a unicorn Pegasus But then There is this evil witch And cadence beat the witch Yada yada So enough to wear she was turned into an outlet corn
And maybe cadance mom WAS the ruler of the crystal empire bc one of the crystal ponies knew her bc she would have looked simulur to her mom or they knew her as the rulers daughter and when the love potion happend it was a easy ticket for sombra
I think the Alicorn is not a pony we know because if it was cadence was that alicorn princess that would mean she is way older than shining armor which doesn’t work because it would mean that she was an adult pony when he was a baby and continued so I think it has to be either maybe a prenatal figure of cadence or another alicorn entirely (also Cadence wasn’t a born alicorn in the books and comics its mentioned that she was a Pegasus and then became and alicorn)
If the story was a long time ago cadance wouldent be born back then And not only alicorns are royalty Prince blue blood isnt a alicorn but hes stil royalty And if the princess in the story was cadance the hearts and howes day would be when cadance was rulling the enpire
What if cadence is the daughter of the two in the story but her father is king sombra? When he fell in love with a Pegasus but his parents wouldn’t allow him to date her cause she wasn’t royal he found the unicorn necklace and gave it to her. When she still didn’t fell in love with him truly he the potion so she would. Cadence was the result of the potion but under the birth her mom died and sombra got heartbroken. Celestia took cadence away from him because he began to blame cadence for her mother’s death. Celestia didn’t tell her anything but that’s also why she have the power for the Crystal heart and she was chosen to rule the Crystal empire.
it maybe Princess Amore but she didnt have wings... she couldnt be the alicorn pony in the love story... i dont know what that princess is... but we can find it together...
this is a far fetch but in social sciences we study that the world as we know right now went from a whole to the individualism, maybe it reflects in equestria? ponies becomes more individualistic, so alicorn, thus royalty become more rare
First of all i want to say sorry for my bad english or if it doesn't make sense So my toughts are that maybe chrysalis(sorry if i wrote it wrong) might be that alicorn because if you think about it the changelings feed on love and what if chrysalis turned out this way becous it's a side affect of the spell
My theory is and probably correct but here’s mine Cadence parents are Dead maybe cadence was found near the ruins of the castle and somebody adopted her
hej sawtooth what if the alicorn was NOT an alicorn and it was just a legdend that she was alicorn and the princess in heart and hooves is princess Amore?
Her daughter was the first alicorn ever to be born one already if I’m not mistaken but yes I have to Admit this thought has crossed my mind once or twice LOL
Well if Prince BlueBlood and Cadence are Celesta's niece and nephew then Luna is the mom or Celesta and Luna have a brother or sister and they might be the one on the cover of the Hearts And Hooves Day Story...(???)
Well it's great but i think that alicorn is her mother cuz i don't think cadence is so much older cuz in Twilight's childhood she was young too and her height is not so you know big i mean she is not like luna and celestia she is alot younger then them And your videos are awesome Can u tell why apple jack is so strong? And pinkie is so much full of energy? And if Twilight's element is magic then why luna, celestia and cadence have more powerful magic then her? Which family she belongs to? And why rainbow dash is not so girly even though her mother is? Why is she so fast and a wheather controller when her father is not? Which family she belongs to like fluttershy belongs to shy family, pinkie pie belongs to pie family and apple jack belongs to apple family And why fluttershy is so shy? Why rarity love fashion if her parents are not into this? Which family she belongs to like fluttershy belongs to shy family, pinkie pie belongs to pie family and apple jack belongs to Apple family LOVE YOUR WORK LOVE YOUR THEORIES AND YOUR SONGS
(My frist thuri:The alicorn could be Luna that's why she became so Lonny )or{my second thuri: it could be cadence mom but she die when king sombra attack crystal empire and the alicorn send cadence to the Royal sisters }
Omg what if alicorns were once all over equestria and doing their part to keep the world in check like even before grogar but then grogar destroyed all most all the alicorns but celestia and luna and then cadance’s mother and father were still ruling the crystal empire untill some of grogar’s monsters killed her parents but the crystal ponies put their love and light in the heart and destroyed the monsters and cadance was sent somewhere else to be safe but then was found by celestia?
I can Explane the earth pony king and the prinsses isn't a Real alicorn Celeste is made her an alicorn she did something happened to her that makes her the alicorn and when she sapraded from earth pony king she,gonna become a mother and without the king and she had a place to Rule the crstly anpaier antel she gave brith to cadence so she have to fight with king sobmra defeated her and celstya and luna defeated king sombra so she was a Pegasus so she fly to ponywill sao she fall and she was crying in abush so to earth ponys took her so prisima truned nine and celstya truded her into a alocron
What if that was telling what would happen one day we don't know but what if bluebell falls in love with flirt heart and creates the love poshin to make furry heart fall in love with him when she is older
One point I would like to make in relation to the theory that being an alicorn can come from exposure to the magic of all three pony tribes is... what if everyone in each tribe exchanged some of their magic with each other? Would that result in *all* the participants becoming alicorns?
Is it hypothetically possible to turn the entirety of Equestria into a land of alicorns? Just a thought.
I just want to say thanks for all the theories, analyses, music and the other content you've made over the years. You were one of the first content creators I started watching when I joined the fandom, and though I was pretty young back then, all your ideas were so interesting. (And still are!) I remember during one of your hiatuses, I remembered your videos and decided to visit your channel again. I was thinking to myself, "Woah, it's been a while, I hope he makes a new video one day." And well, then next day you posted that Starswirl the Bearded video, so um that was a thing. And now my comment is pretty long so uh. Thank you so much for all the content you've made and still continue to make. I really really really appreciate it <3
This is a great video and it gave me a thought: it might make sense if, after what the alicorn from the story went through, celestia and luna stripped all the other prince's and Princesses of their alicornhood to protect them, seeing only themselves as ready for regality like that until cadence and twilight came along. So they oversee all alicorns and push other royalty to the backgrounds to stop them from turning.
I personally have a hard time believing that there could have been multiple royal lineages with alicorns in them. There just isn't a gap that I see between the three tribes and the sister's reign. Plus, something as big as nations aren't just forgotten... Unless someone made them forget.
I always assumed it was just Princess Amore, but with an error with the wings. After all, she'd only be a concept at that point.
Also, cadence is younger than you probably think, after all, she ages much like Twilight, and twilight is somehow luna sized in the finale even when her friends are still alive.
hey Sawtooth, will you be reviewing the theories for the G5 movie? there are some interesting ones out there. You could also take a look at the synopsis for the movie and come up with some theories of your own.
They said they'd explore more of Equestria, who knows, we might see what happened to the other royals...
I think there is a small possibility that the depicted princess in hearts and hooves day might be the lost crystal princess that was taken over by sombra. However, that idea doesn't hold up very well since even celestia's knowledge of the crystal empire is limited when it comes to before it was lost to the frozen North due to Sombra's curse.
I think in the comics it's confirmed there's some Alicorns royalties during Celestia and Luna's reign. Maybe just like Twilight, Celestia turned them into an Alicorn so they can rule a specific kingdom. There used to be an Alicorn princess who ruled over the Crystal Empire before Sombra took over and caused the entire Empire to disappear. He most likely killed the princess as well. I know that the comics are not mostly canon but I do feel like some of the facts provided in those comics could be true to the show.
The thing with Blueblood being a Prince never bothered me, especially because I was little when I started watching the show. But it has been confirmed that Blueblood is Celestia's nephew and that Cadence is her niece(adotptive I'm pretty sure.) So that leaves me wondering if Blueblood is Celestia's adoptive nephew, or if Celestia has other family members aside from Luna. Though I don't think this has much to do with the Hearts and Hooves Day Princess, it's a fun thing to think about.
The comics show the old crystal princess. She was an alicorn named Amore, and was lost to history, probably around the same time that Somrba took over. I think she might be the princess in the story, and Sombra's takeover of the crystal empire was a result of her failing her royal duties.
I think your next video should be about the crystal unicorns, bc in the episode of the crystalization of flurry heart in part 1 when Spike explains the crystalization he used a base. In the base there is a crystal unicorn but in the actual crystal empire there is no crystal unicorns atleast not anymore, maybe it has to do with King Sombra or the crystal empire royal family.
Ok but I think the question ties in with the starswirl created alicorn theory. What if, because there were so many royals, one would rule after the the elder passes on. But, after Starswirl saw the potential of the royal sisters, he casted an age spell into the mix for 2 reasons: 1. He wouldn't always be there to cast new alicorns. 2. He knew that the talent of the royal sisters is very strong, and wanted a symbol like that for a long time.
Maybe that specific alicorn was forgotten and not ever mentioned (assuming that fillies and ponies like twilight look at them from ze past) bc she wasn’t meant to fall in love, I’ve heard of times thousands of years ago ppl in royal families normally married cousins or selected nobles to keep the family line clean and maybe they decided to outcast her. Then she lost her magic and nobody remembered her
Wouldnt that still leave the problem of the birth of flurry heart. "The birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen" You know, your favourite line. If Cadence is the child of an alicorn and she was born one surely ponies would still remember something so significant
Here’s how I think alicorns work Remember sawtooth’s video about how Starswerl created alicorns with a pocket dimension that scenes anypony has done anything royalty worthy then turns them into an alicorn wheel I think sense Cadence was already an alicorn the dimension scened royalty worthiness in Flurrt before she was even born causing her to be the first pony an BORN alicorn
Maybe cadence was born a Pegasus or unicorn or even an earth pony and all the admiration and love from her fellow admirers turned her into a alicorn I don’t know it’s a giant mystery
When Cozy Glow lost her alicorn powers, she also lost her horn. Why was that not the case with the four princesses when Tirek stole their magic? Why didn't they lose their horns and/or wings? Is it possible that if you remain an alicorn for long enough, your new horn/wings become inseparable from your natural biology? Or does stealing magic using Grogar's bell differ from stealing it with no artifact?
I think there are two Questions: First. as said: were are they now? Second: why only Mares and no Stallions? (And yes that was the theme of an video some years ago.)
I prefer the theory that this unicorn was actually Chrysalis ! Indeed, it could be she who would have lost her means as a result of the filter of love. Hence the fact that it feeds on it.... (forgive my bad English, I'm French) By the way good video !
Wait... if alicorns earn their wings/horn from being filled with magic and adoration from all Earth ponies, unicorn and Pegasi, does that mean a yak or changeling would be able to gain wings and a horn if they too are filled with the magic?🤭
I guess this could be plausible but the fact that the royal sisters just pulled up out of nowhere and then all the people in equestria just was like "all right these are our new leaders we will submit to them" just seems a bit weird they would have to be some sort of rebellion or a fight between the royal families
I don't think the mystery alicorn is Cadence but I do think they're related. See, based off the theories provided here, I think that mystery princess did lose her power like you suggested. But she lost it after the potion because she was no longer able to rule her kingdom. The potion made it impossible for her to do anything but overly love that prince, which would leave the citizens abandoned and the kingdom in shambles. With the princess unable to do her duties and run, she lost her alicorn-ness. And because the citizens were abandoned, they no longer spoke of her besides how terrible that love potion is. Her history after the love potion would be lost because no one cared about her anymore. And based off of my own theory, if Cadence was born from that love potion pair, I don't think they raised her. Celeste may have known about the situation and had to look on, but she stepped in to take the child because it was obvious the love potion didn't leave any love for Cadence. (Similar to how The Willowbys, a Netflix movie that I probably spelled wrong, family works.) But, you know, that's all just theories. Have fun!
Ok,its definitely Cadence's mom! Because the others aren't that much into Romantic Love,as you said all of the alicorns we know represent different types of love... What if Cadence is actually the replacement for her mom! That's a pretty good idea in my opinion, so the possibities : ??? I don't know,but its DEFINITELY NOT Cadence herself! Because when she used the love spell between some random ponies,she was super young,so its possibilities of it being her,is less,soooo its Cadence's mom,but maybe one day she failed to take care completly over the whole kingdom she ruled over whether its the Crystal Empire or some other kingdom in Equestria or who knows somewhere we don't know! So yes this is my thinking about it.
It bas been stated Amora is a relative of Cadence before, but shes a regular unicorn. I think Amora could be the sister of the mystery alicorn or be the mother, because she was a minor royal. Or, Amora could have been that alicorn, but lost the power. She does have the height of one, and maybe she used all of her alicorn power into the crystal heart or smth after the love spell, or maybe she did something with the love spell to the crystal heart. Also, alot of Celestia merch shows her as pink. Put pink celestia next to Amora, they look awfully similar. And since you think Cadence is Celestia's niece, it would make sense if Amora is Celestia's sister, the alicorn in the story, Cadence's mother and why she may no longer be an alicorn. She also was crystallized and destroyed by Sombra, so it does make sense why she could be lost to history.
btw sawtooth pls acknowledge this because I'm revamping my channel to a theory and discussion channel like urs, you were an inspiration to me for a while now and now I feel like commendation/theories are my thing :)
I think this alicorn is some old descendant of Candance, not the mother, and neither is she,
in the story of this episode, the kingdom of these passionate ponies basically fell apart, because the two were so preoccupied with loving each other, that they didn't even care about the kingdom. so most likely that reign fell, but his descendants remained noble. then time passed and Candance was born, probably her granddaughter or great-granddaughter.
And she lived a normal life in the beginning ???? and she was a Twilight drool
Sawtooth I have a thing that backs you’re theory! So cadence was born a pony and not a alicorne, then became one. She also gave birth to a alicorne. Stay with me here. If her mother is the one from the story, and we don’t now a lot about this pony, maybe cadences mom was born a alicorne. Maybe cadence was meant to be born a alicorne but didn’t beacouse it was not true love and just a potion! But celestia would not say she had never seen a birth of a alicorne if her sister was born one. So I think that celestia is not cadences aunt.❤️❤️❤️
And it did not seem like celestia or anyone interfered with their love potion so I think that they were not known bye many which is why celestia said she had never seen a birth of a alicorne!
Wow you have really good attention to details. Impressive MOST impressive.
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Ari .S2021-03-26 17:05:09 (edited 2021-03-26 17:07:00 )
My idea is that the crystal empire was once run by this alicorn princess but king sombra came and took over causing the princess to abandon the empire and cadence seeing what was going on decided to run away. But her parents to over run by the love potion were easily defeated. And that was how empire was over run by king sombra. And why Cadence returned the citizen thought itbwas the return of their princess but it was her daughter
That sounded alot like what so videos channel thing about Disney's The Lion King. After seeing it one more could. It sounds like the green ranger story as will. Tommy becomes evil, Tommy becomes good, evil takes away his powers out of an trust issue, and good gives him new powers.
maybe it is cadances mom when the potion was first used there probably wasnt a cure yet but when somepony else figured out it was a potion and not actual love a wizard made a cure and used it on her she got angry and took cadence away she wasnt around other tribes and lost alicorn magic making her life shorter and she might have gotten to old and correct me if im wrong but didnt celestia find cadence as a baby so then she would get her tribe magic by being raised by the princess we do know that she was a pegasus at some point and the love spell might have been because her mom was under a love spell when she was born there for in her dna instead of her dads influence we have seen not normal magic in dna like flurry heart being born alicorn the praise baby royals get from crystalings and other parties or just following there parents on the job could have made them alicorns from an early age it also makes it fit even better with the alicorn amulet theory also the love story was a long time ago and even if the ones we know were around then they would have had something to say hearing the siblings of the elements of harmony used the potion and like you said before cadance wouldnt use something used on her she isnt that kind of person after gusty the great happened they had royals but they werent together but after the fire of friendship some of them got alicorn magic after a while they started building their goveermnets closer and eventually decided on having only one and chose celestia and lunas mom and dad or grandparents even not being rulers anymore most of the others lost their alicornness witch would show a possible reason why cadence dad liked her mother he saw she was still an alicorn she wasnt just a princess she was still loved enough to be an alicorn so he used the love spell either thinking it was incredible she was an alicorn or wanting to be one himself witch is why he used the spell and had a baby cadence moms family could have been the past goverment of the crystall empire witch is why shes meant to be there cadence might have had a baby aliorn because she was the first to be exposed to the magic while pregnant because twilight and her friends so flurry heart would be an alicorn becuase she was around the magic but this theory about magic being transfered by ruling leaves a gap because of shining armour he would be one too unless only girls could be alicorns
sorry for the long comment i just had a lot to say
Hmmm what if theres a dark past where Celestia and Luna commited "Royal Purges" so the Legitimacy of the two sisters stayed very high and to avoid any pretenders
Lol what is queen crysalis was once an alicorn? She could have changed herself into a bug out of hatred or maybe some powerful wizard even did that. so she then breeds and creates an army and feeds on love because she lost the love of her kingdom/family/friends/etc.? Idk I think it may have a good background for her.
Can you do a theory about the strange timeliness. With star swerl and princess Celestia and luna if you want to explain i can becuse I noticed that afew thing don't seem to add up and I was wondering if you could look into it. Its nothing major its just a little confusing
Oki just a question for a different topic😂 Well first...twilight got her wings for fixing a spell from starswirl the bearded But starlight did exactly the same and even more So..here is my question Where are starlights wings?? And if she were an alicorn then what is she the princess of?? The princess of magic?? Or something else??
(I think that might be a different alicorn we don't know)
Hmm if I would write the story iwould say, that she was candence 's mother and when their kingdom falls down celestia (kinda young) I guess near the time of nightmare moon seperated them both after a massive dragon attack as apple bloom read it in the book, celestia seperates them both and.. eventually a little moons before Twilight cadence was born, but uh.. the potion seemed to have been stronger then what the crusadors made like think, what if celestia did seperate them for liek 20- 30 years and that country have been enough and cadence's mom and dad eventually passed away and leaving celestia to adopt her as her neice
I wrote a comment on the last video saying that it can't be cadences parents or relatives because the princess in the story is an alicorn and because .... CELESTIA : - "A birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen" backed up by LUNA : - "it's beyond even our understanding" and I am not convinced that there are other alicorn and we're not even sure if that story is accurate or REAL AT ALL! It could be just a fairytale.
Hi there! You know I'm still courius what happened to A.J. parents. Because we know Who they are, but we never actually where are they or what happened to them. I hope you will answer my comment😊
If you want another theory what about Luna’s cutie mark . When they gave their magic to twilight only the moon of her cutie make disappeared but in royal problem her black smudge disappeared too. So what is Luna cutie mark.
If cadence is Celestials niece then the mother of cadence is Celestials and lunar's sister
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Blue Tigeress2021-03-26 16:21:42 (edited 2021-03-26 16:22:01 )
The world is a lot bigger than just equestria. If the movie was any indication, like the hippogriffs went into hiding so could other ponys. Or lived in another land the mane six never traveled to like in rainbow road trip.
I know that InkRose wrote a story on this but I’d like to bring it up again. What if chrysalis was the princess. I mean what if the potion was broken in some way after the prince died. Think about it, the prince was a normal pony and she was an alicorn so she’d live longer, so after the prince died she would be heart broken and maybe that’s why she and all her progeny need love to survive. She’s also an alicorn and maybe she was younger when this happened
Now don’t think to much into this but aren’t there alicorns in the comics and I don’t know how canon they are or if there even are one but either way it could be one of the possibility’s but if we should go on what we already know and we don’t know anything about the pony and I don’t believe it’s cadence or any of them we know so I think the alicorn lost their wings (or horn) and like Luna in the celestia era just been forgotten by modern pony’s of equestria I think the comic one didn’t make much sense so I would say that she’s just been forgotten but idk that’s just some possibility’s (btw love your videos sawtooth always exited when I see a new upload)😊🦄👑
To other people it would makes sense that it would be Cadence but if u take a look at the man he look similar to celestia's nephew. So maybe it could be her brother or older sister. Maybe for her home land? And if you look at the girl she does look like Cadence but she also looks like rainbow dash (to me) that's why celestia's nephew was rude to rarity because the love poison after effects. Maybe it was rarity or someone like her or maybe rainbow dash but we are missing some else, If it was Cadence this episode was made in season 2 and was made from a long time ago but Cadence is only 200 years ago and I believe the story was made 10000 years ago so it couldn't have been her and since the people in the photo look around 18-23 I dont think it could be her mother so maybe it could have been Cadance's younger sister or a niece or nephew. We dont know. EDIT: I SPELT CADANCE WRONG AKCICU CFC UDUDUDJF.
It’s cadences mom and Maybe in the book about cadences past the evil which was cadences and her mothers sister Before cadence her mother was the princess of love until she got married and Kejdes came along her mother might have died in someway and then her father might’ve disappeared I don’t know what happened to him but then Kejdes was the new princess of love since her mother is dead since now Kejdes has no parents princess Celestia took care of her because cadence was the only non-Royal to be left
Early! I feel like this a response video by a YouTuber who responded to your the truth about Fluffy Heart about Twi having a flowing man. I don't know why just do.
Ok forgive me if her metions this later but if cadence is the dauter then how come when they gave birth to a ALICORN celestia when flurry was born she never saw this before and this coulnt have been placed befor celest that just dosnt connect the theory is great just it just dosnt make sence again forgive me i just started watching and noticed this little detail so forgive me if he metions this. Btw love yo vids sawtooth also no hard feeling. :)/ Ok just finished agian HOW could cadence be boooooorn an alicorn pleeeeeaaaase exsplain.
Woah a SECRET ALICORN PRINCESS man how much brain power this chang- I mean PONY have no don't think I think your a changling nope I don't know that at ALL
Me honest don’t remember that episode. Well I kind came in the end of the series, I feel ashamed. But one thought, it took place after the last episode of the series. like you know twilight main student, hint it was her. So the boom we read take place in past and ahead. With up and down effect. So like most episode just. Dream,. Another one might been is, raimbow dash or other mane 6. But ya like unknown pony. But we know mlp won’t do that to us. Or one of kids with wings I think when you went portal because I think flurr heat just like them. So she not a full princess just odd case of early normal, whatever you call the pony with wings. You know the ones that not princess but can still fly. But mine on last pink girl pony might be to far off to be true. But would be one of my dreams if not took place in past but after last episode. And née mlp life series, the story of kids. Witch I think a lot want that too I guess, the timeline I say. Otherwise still hope the fox the new series’s if it even on. Can’t find on y tv or online.
I think it was Chrysalis , becose the princ give her love and her doesn't want love and she start by evil and that the why chrysalis look like monstrum . Chrysalis doesn't want childen and thats the why Chrysalis doesn't love cadece .but Chrysalis after this potion want love - love + evil . And chrysalis is queen and cadece princess . And Celestia looks Chrisalis doen't love her child and Celestia adopted Cadence . Chrysalis and Cadece have something with love .
I hope you will read this text . I from Slovakia and I'm go to 4. Class , I have little problem with english , sorry .
When Cadenece will be maried her need her mum and call Chrysalis but Chrysalis doesn't love her but she need love . Thats why Chrysalis was in the castle when her daughter got married .
I know Princess Celestia and Princess Luna's parents I know who they are Princess Celestia and Princess Luna's mom is Queen galaxsea Princess Celestia and Princess Luna father is King Cosmos😅
I always wondered about that. But now that I think about it there could be lots of other alicorns all over Equestria. Mabye they are rulling other beings from other places.
I have a theory. It could just be a unicorn but stories change over time. Somewhere along the way through the years it was changed to a alicorn as fhey were seen as royals. Just like in our history. As stories get told verbally they change and as they get written it isnt the original. But thats just a theory a my little pony theory aaaaand....wrong theorist lol
YouTube: no views Also YouTube: 9 comments 5 views and 34 comments Edit: yea that makes sense so sawtooth are you excited for G5 its gonna be in our equestria so yay more horse theory fodder
What about fluttershy she has some what the power of a alicorn plus she can talk to animals and she can use the stare And I think she is part Alicorn and she the daughter of princess sterling
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Your mention of Alicorns becoming associated with royalty, more specifically princesses, got me thinking: maybe she wasn't an Alicorn at all. Maybe the idea of all princesses being Alicorns is just so ingrained in Equestria's culture that the illustrator just assumed that if she was a princess then she must have also been an alicorn.
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OO THATS GOOOD
54 likesI like that thought. Much how we think princesses are pale beautiful dainty maidens who need to be rescued.
79 likes@Lehla Quartz or the exact opposite. We have a lot of bias for young, fiery princesses too
33 likesThat’s an awesome theory!!
8 likesThis is probably it!! It even makes sense with real life history!
13 likes@Lehla Quartz talk for yourself hon.
0 likesi would say the story was just an old mares tale in equestria but we all know that pretty much all of those turn out true
9 likes@Lehla Quartz HAHA no we don't 😒
0 likesOO THAT SO GOOD
2 likesI feel like we all forgot about G5 over G4. Now they're both forgotten.
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0 likesSeema logical, not sure if the whole thing is 100% a story, it started a holiday somehow! SO maybe that whole love potion thing did happen, and then when it was written into a book creative liberty was taken to make her an alicorn!! I have a real life thing to line this up with, The Lancaster Bunny by Mary Haylock! People outside of Hamilton may not know of this, but this stuffed bunny fell out of a plane and was lost for a few months, and it was made into a book!! However, names were changed and small details about where the family was from (Ireland-England) and who was on the plane (Just the dad- Dad+Daughter) So having a real life event, sort of story-fied isn't a thing that doesn't happen!!
1 likeAh, the fallacy of the converse
0 likesThat's so interesting 🤔
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41 likesA) What if Cadance's mother was the original Queen of the Crystal Ponies before Sombra's takeover? The Hearts and Hooves day could still be brought into play here, and Cadance was conceived either directly or shortly before Sombra's rise to power. This would explain why Cadance was chosen to rule over the Crystal Kingdom almost moments before it returned.
B) Going off the "Queen Crystalise" theory about how she had been married to Sombra before he went dark. Once again, bringing to play the Hearts and Hooves day potion, what if they were the victims of this potion? The potion would've caused them to get together, bear a child, but something went wrong. Perhaps the potion's effects were broken, perhaps by Celestia, and Crystalise was enraged? She swore off love, left the Kingdom in anger, leaving her child behind and growing to despise it. She becomes the Queen of Changelings, effectively feeding off the emotion she hates. Then Sombra, a man who'd loved her, was corrupted by heartache when she left him. Celestia saves Cadance, the child born from this pair. Queen Crystalis overhears about the wedding, and goes not only for power but to also prevent her daughter from finding love in the same way she'd been forced into it? It would be poetic, using a "love" spell on Shining Armor to prevent Cadance, a child born from forced love, from being with her true love. This might also be why both Luna and Celestia didn't want to fight her since they were aware of why Crystalis became the way she did.
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Omg C should be true
0 likesI love that theory
0 likesOMG this sounds amazing. 💜
0 likesSawtooth waves should be hired to make new storylines for My Little Pony so the show doesn’t have to end.
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I know but I hope they make a my little pony 2
2 likesOn Wikipedia it says that Luna and Celestia have another sister
2 likesNext, I kinda want to see a "why are the princesses hair always ✨wAvY✨
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I have come to a conclusion to that question! It might have something to do with their talent with magic! The sisters have been around for a long time, so they've had experience with magic, and mistmane, if you remembered the story, went to the best magic school!
50 likesWhy doesn’t that video exist yet
7 likesMe to
3 likesIt is about magic. The more magic a pony has the the more wavy the hair that also explains how the powerful unicorn mistmane had flowing hair if I remember correctly and from the thing in season 9 where "grogar" explained through this visual thing about his lost bell it looked like gusty the great also had a flowing mane though that doesn't explain starswirl I think starswirl has loads of knowledge but isn't that powerful of a unicorn but yeah
30 likesEdit: and the fact that when Twilight gained all alicorn magic her hair wavy for a few seconds and cozy glow
@fawn ok
2 likesOne word — Mistmane
5 likesThat's because they're from a different Empire or whatever it is but Cadance (I think) and Twilight r from Equestria
3 likesBecause of their MaGIC
2 likesumm in the final ep we saw twilight have wavy hair i think its that alacorns when they age their looks stay the same but their hair still fall out so the alacorns envented a spell to make their hair stay but it made it wavy. My answer. About mistmane she was the Princess of her home soooo she was royalty
1 likeActually not all the princesses like cadence doesn't have wavy hair but agreed 👍
2 likesI think it’s the fact that they have so much magic and it’s all just flowing magic in their manes
1 like“How do you get your mane to do that all the time?” - cranky doodle donkey
2 likes@fawn true but also cadence hair was all so wavy when a spell was casted
3 likesI think because they are so powerful that it is depicted on their mains but I don’t know why star swirl doesn’t have wavy hair?
1 like@lakshita Dash it’s their power the more power the waver hair, the 3 princesses have wavy hair, because they are alicorn and have a lot of power as well as knowledge, but ur probs gonna be like, what about twilight, well Twilight is an alicorn, but she has spells yet to know, even she hasn’t mastered everything I mean even starlight’s more advanced, it’s also age influenced as well I’ve noticed, Twilight is still young as well as Cadence, the 2 sisters have been here over 1,000 years, and for starswirl, he’s not alicorn so he hasn’t got every ounce of magic yet, as for mistmane she was also on this earth for 1,000 years, she being unicorn was very knowledgeable, possibly even more than starswirl himself, actually creating beauty in the simplest of things, unlike rarity using a magic book that made her evil, but never mind that, her power was different, she created beauty, age must have also have had a part on this.
1 likegoing back to starswirl I guess males don’t have wavy Manes & with cozy glow that was with alot of power creating a goddess.
hope this helps
Their manes age with their magic or something
0 likesTrue, but you see starswirl is older than them, he created most magic while still discovering more, and even he doesn’t have a flowing mane, he was possibly even older than mistmane but her mane was flowy, she only gave beauty & shared it, so how does starswirl the maker of most magic compare to mistmane?
0 likesactually, mare.....whatever in Rarity's story also had wavy mane...
0 likesWhat about, what was it like when luna was banished to the moon
1 likeHaven't you heard? They have Alicorn pattern baldness. They have holograms to hide it 😁😅
2 likes@Ace_Of_Cups lol, Alicorns exposed
2 likes@Brian Van Kirk you have a good point there
0 likesI think it may have something to do with the amount of magic they possess because in the season 4 finales, when they gave their magic to twilight, their hair stop moving around!
0 likespower and age
0 likesTWILIGHT HAD FLOWING MANE AT THE END OF THE SHOW
0 likesThe most powerful unicorns or alicorns have wavy hair like in season 9 (the last problem) twilight is as large as celestia and had wavy hair.
0 likes@•Amity• There's no proof for that so its probably not canon (sadly)
0 likesMaybe female unicorns or alicorns can have wavy hair¯\_(ツ)_/¯
0 likesNvm i forgot about sombra
1 likeThere's no evidence of it😂..........wait😳nevermind i take my words back because if they're royal then they would also have experienced magic same goes for Twilight because she experienced magic that would make sense how it is possible to have wavy hair.
1 likeMaybe it’s Princess Amore/ Princess Amore’s daughter as Cadence is a descendant of Princess Amore. Princess Amore is the ruler of the crystal empire- empire of love
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You are right
2 likesthe only problem with this is that princess amore was just a unicorn. a crystal unicorn, sure, but still just a unicorn. not an alicorn
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1 likeprincess amore is cadence in sesson two she is princess Me Amore Cadenza
0 likes@mohammed ismail no, princess amore was a crystal unicorn in the sombra comic
6 likesFun fact: Cadance was actually once a Pegasus who earned her “horn” like Twilight was once a Unicorn that earned her Wings. This is mentioned in a book...I forget the name of it but it is cannon I believe.
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I thought she was a Pegasus that earned a horn? Did I remember wrong
32 likes@Magi Sentry yeah I have the book as well (the full and short versions) but they are in a bin somewhere and didn’t want to rummage through it all.
17 likesIts not canon
6 likes@Raptor Zeraora oh...I thought it was.
9 likes@Raptor Zeraora Technically it's B canon, which means it is actually canon, though not in a way that would have ever been confirmed in the show. As such, it doesn't have to be part of the canon you follow. But, it is still an official work.
48 likes100th like time! Cadance was born a Pegasus, and in Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell, Cadance was said to be a baby Pegasus found alone in the woods by two ponies. The ponies raised her and I don’t know the rest I don’t have the book
14 likesThanks so much for that!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
3 likesThe book's name was Twilight sparkle and the crystal heart spell
6 likes….
1 like@Nixon Varghese
1 likeI know pony🦄 Cadence♀️ is pony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️'s In-law sister👩❤️👩
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 I know that
1 likeMaybe Cadence was pegasus bc she took some genes from her mother and the half from her father, she have wings (before she was a princess) from her mother and had no horn bc of her father think about it
2 likesI think what everyone is forgetting is that Flurry is canonically stated to be the first ever "born alicorn" according to the princesses. The "earning her horn" story HAS to be true, or at least her earning alicornship somehow has to be.
5 likes@Twilight i agree
1 like@Raptor Zeraora It is canon. I have the book and it's confirmed by Hasbro. (I don't know much about DHX)
0 likes@Melon he just said that
0 likesfun fact: her name is spelt cadance
0 likesNot true
0 likesRarity calling blue blood celestia’s nephew was actually what started my head cannon of celestia and Luna having a younger brother. I have no proof for this, just a head cannon.
30 likesAlicorns were definitely known figures. During the episode “The Crystalling” Spike pulls out an old ceramic piece of pottery designed with the detailing of the Crystalling. There, we see that the male in the image (who we can assume is the father) and a female alicorn (who we can assume is the mother) holding a baby. In fact, we see two alicorns . One was the honored Crystaller while the other was probably the mother. While the designs make it clear this was meant to parallel the Mane Six as well as Cadence and Shining Armor, this pot was made before any of them, which makes you wonder if clairvoyance was involved somehow, although it wouldn’t make sense since Twilight didn’t even end up as the Crystaller by the end of the episode. Either way, just thought it was a detail worth pointing out
4 likesMy theory is princess cadence is the two pony’s from the hearts and hooves day tale foal and her mother was one of few other alicorns, if not the only other allicorn. Remember when we were first introduced to cadence and queen chrysalis in the canterlot wedding? How did she know how to find princess cadence and steal her life? I don’t know if anyone else noticed but chrysalis seemed to act like she already knew who cadence and princess celestia were from the past. It could be that Cadences mom was queen chrysalis (she probably had a different name before) and she transformed into the opposite of what the love spell was intended to do. But I thought when a changing is reformed they turn into bugs so that can’t be true. But then I thought all of the other changelings are different than her. None of them have allicorn magic like her. This makes me think that if she were to be reformed she would turn back into a allicorn. Also in that episode where she steals her life, it seem that she has a unknown past with princess celestial by the way she approaches the situation. Just my theory, I think it makes more sense.
29 likesThose are some interesting ideas, Sawtooth! I especially liked your explanation for how some of the royals of Equestria's past could have become alicorns by being exposed to magic—perhaps love magic?—from all three pony tribes. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! ^_^
6 likesThere are some odd details in "Hearts and Hooves Day" that might complicate your theory about other alicorns existing in Equestria. When I checked the MLP Wiki for the episode's image gallery, I saw that the illustration in Twilight's book featured a princess with no visible horn or wings when Twilight was showing it to the CMC, which seemed to indicate that she was an Earth pony princess. However, when Sweetie Belle was talking about the love poison, the illustration was different and showed an alicorn princess instead. Since no one refers to the princess as an alicorn within the episode, it's hard to tell which illustration was an error. However, I believe it would make more sense for the prince and princess to both be Earth ponies to parallel Big Mac and Cheerilee.
You know their dedicated when they still makes theories even when the show has ended.
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Theres probably so much more things to uncover in that show
84 likes@Domi Wez True, I felt like there were sooo many unanswered questions, but the finale was made so well, that people just sorta forgot about them.
80 likesDo you think even when time’s passed, people would still be interested in reading fan stories & theories??
30 likesAlso, why just because a show ended should all conversation be stopped about it? It’s almost like it’s ended so everything just... ends. But it shouldn’t be like that.
@Aubic Grande No, I’m just saying, there is no more content to farm. That’s all.
11 likes:)
I feel like we all forgot about G5 over G4. Now they're both forgotten.
11 likes@I am Start over Yellow I know, but now that the show is over, with no new content/ clues to answer questions, most people have carried on and left the show behind. However, it still remains as an important part of their life :)
8 likesWe are too if where here
3 likes@deceitful dreams tecnicly the show in a way isant over g5 has been confirmed to take place in the same equestria g4 did just an unknown amount of time in the future so we could still get answers to some of these
5 likes@Clinton Schroeder I Kano about G5, but still, it won’t have the same vibe as MLP.
4 likesI still wanna know cadence’s backstory 😭
6 likes@deceitful dreams i know it wont i think if they want g5 to be as good as g4 was then they should have hired lauren faust and the same writers back and kept the same animation style the 3d stuff doesnt look bad it just looks weird compared to g4
4 likesWait! It’s finished! The last season I saw was the one at school I haven’t watched anything else
3 likesVer muy pronto la nueva película de Paw Patrol los cines
2 likesLook at their profile picture.. they’re nonbinary
1 like@Eva Young wha..?
1 likeHow is this related..?
@deceitful dreams You misgendered them
1 like@Eva Young ah okay my bad
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1 likeYa
1 likeOh it has not ended yet...
1 like*dedication
1 like😁😄😃
1 like@Domi Wez 5
1 likeWait.. IT ENDED!?
2 likesLol!
1 likeWow, it's pretty impressive how they still make MLP videos even though the whole show has already ended ^w^ ❤✨
4 likesUr theories are so interesting. There’s something I’ve always thought about. We’ve seen how Celestia and Luna would’ve been if they turned bad (like with nightmare moon and daybreaker) but what if the mane 6 were to turn bad? They solve so many problems that no one in equestria can solve by simply just being friends. There’s no doubt their extremely powerful, especially when they’re together. We’ve seen some of them individually turn ‘evil’ I guess (example: rarity in inspiration manifestation) but the 6 of them together represent friendship magic which is supposedly the most powerful magic of all according to the show. Not to mention they are connected to the elements of harmony which are also some of the most powerful artifacts in equestria. The power they hold is immense. So if the mane 6 were to all cohesively as a group team up and turn evil could anybody really stop them? It would be interesting to see and I wish they did something like that on mlp.(also I feel like their designs would look so cool if they were reformed to look evil I really wish the show did something like this)
10 likesI like to imagine that in the ancient past, there might have been more alicorns. Prehaps some "true" alicorns, as in being naturally born alicorns. It could explain some of the powerful magical relics in the world, such as the alicorn amulet. What became of these alicorns? Who knows?
1 likeWhat if the hearts and hooves day,it's actually a prophesy for a future princess to keep her eyes open for who she chooses to be her love interest
17 likesSince the crystal empire was separated and had different history there could definitely be a family from there. The earth pony could also be a crystal pony since they may be confused.
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From what i know Cadence seems to have her own dynasty, the Mi Amores and there was an old ruler of the Crystal Empire in the comics so ye
20 likesbut its easy to tell the difference, everypony knows. there is no confusing it, the geometrical shine in their eyes and the silkier hair and coat, they all have the same accents too
5 likes@`` True it is easy to tell the difference but with the lost empire, history could be lost or mixed up since then
9 likes@Izabella
0 likesLife♥️ is full mysteries❓
I'm so grateful for the time you take to make these videos even after the show has ended. It's kept the spark! Thank you!
0 likesI still say the Alicorn from the Hearts and Hooves Day story was Chrysalis before she became a Changeling!
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She's a bug tho
0 likes@Vyn simp But who says she was BORN a bug?
0 likesMini theory
13 likesSombra is cadences dad?
After losing his wings, he would be power thirsty,
possibly enough to make a love potion to get back on top.
Edit: yes, l know that the pony is an earth pony, but sombra obviously might of changed his appearance, after all, he is a villlan 😉
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Yea I'm not sure
1 likeidk
0 likesJust a thought, it correlates to the Sombra and Alicorn Amulet theories, maybe the reason why there aren't any other alicorns is that, instead of just ripping the magic from all three tribes, Sombra was actively hunting alicorns as soon as they ascended after he figured out how to steal their magic, and left the two sisters for last since they were the first ones? It would explain why there aren't anymore real alicorns except for the ones nowadays (Cadance likely being born right after the hunts, which would explain how she is smaller than the sisters but taller and slightly older than Twilight, and Twilight was very carefully selected and mostly during times of 'peace', as there really weren't hitches with her ceremony), the immense power the amulet seems to have, and if Sombra was an alicorn himself why he was so powerful, he was culling out any more competition before he was stopped, because while we see one can become powerful by stealing the magic from each of the tribes as with Tirek, stealing the magic from several alicorns as soon as possible would definitely be either just as or more effective, until someone stepped in and he was turned back into a regular unicorn and the magic, now too twisted, corrupt and concepts that likely shouldn't have mixed together (as different alicorns might have represented different things) couldn't be returned, and thus stayed static in the amulet before Trixie got it.
2 likesOr his official backstory could be the one from the comics, I don't know, it's all just a thought that sprang in my mind over coffee, no one will likely read this anyway XP
My, isn’t this quite the “heart” wrenching mystery? 😉
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Why....
15 likesHHAHAHAHA
13 likesThank you! Thank you! I’m here every two weeks!
9 likes@Willowash OMG IS CADANCE GREAT GRANDMOTHER
4 likesNice pun
4 likesKill me
4 likesI simultaneously love and hate this
6 likesHa!
3 likesXD
3 likesNO
2 likesYes darling it is
2 likesI like how half o the comments are complaining about the pun and the other half thinks its funny, I have mixed feeling about puns
3 likesBa dum chh
0 likesHa, ha, very funny.
0 likesHahaha 😁
0 likesKill me...
1 likeNo the heart wrenching mystery is WHY THE F IS AN 11 YEAR OLD GIRL IN LOVE WITH A 1056 YEAR OLD LOKI!?
0 likes@♤Hisoka Morow♡ uhh if you're talking about the Fluttercord ship Fluttershy doesn't look 11 she looks older than that and even older in the series finale. I mean I respect that opinion of yours of course I'm just saying she looks older than 11
1 likeOOOOOOMMMMMMGGGGGG!!!!!!!
0 likesXD
0 likes.?????????? I don’t get it
0 likes@Brianna does stuff love alicorn, heart pun
0 likesWdym
0 likes🏬🏩🏭🏭🏩
0 likes@Foxfan321 huh
0 likes@Foxfan321 fluttershy is 20
0 likesYouTube translates HHAHAHAHA
0 likesBut it doesn't translate Russian or other languages
I heard about Celestia’s mom, she’s an alicorn(queen Galaxia)
0 likes@The Fergusons b e a n
0 likesoh the crystal heart TERRIBLE JOKE
0 likesSorry but please get out. This in my opinion isn’t a funny joke. sorry 😢
0 likesNo.
0 likesI just wanted to say how much I love your theory videos! And I think there's a lot of lore on mlp that we can still explore.
0 likesI disagree with the theory of that when you inject yourself with magic strong enough you can just become an alicorn. Cozy glow could become an alicorn, but not a real one like Twilight. When Cozy Glow was rid of all the magic she had gotten from the bell, she was returned to her pegasi form, whereas when Twilight lost all her magic (not friendship) through Tirek, she remained an alicorn. Cadence's Mother must have been the former Princess of Love, and she had to also have done something worthy to become an alicorn, just like how it was explained Cadence was not born a unicorn according to Celestia and Luna in The Crystalling.
1 likeI love the spring background in the video! And i love the flower in you oc's hair.
2 likesI like the idea of the hearts & hooves day pony being cadence's mother. If we follow the belief that turning into an alicorn dosnt change one's DNA then that would mean cadence was born as a non-alicorn to an alicorn. This makes even more sense why everyone was soo surprized at flurry. Since every previously recorden birth from an alicorn has never resulted in another alicorn. Flurry is just the exception & I can explain her too: Cadence was pregnant with flurry in the crystal empire which soaks up 3-tribe power on a regular basis (like any holiday/festival/birthday/or evil-vanquishing event), plus the mother is already an alicorn & in a royal/leadership position which is exactly the position that earns the love & admiration of the people. Why isn't cadence's hair wavy yet? BECAUSE the baby was leaching 3-tribe/alicorn magic off her mother the entire pregnancy. Anyway, It's not hard to consider a jump to alicorn during development, it's as simple as why Riversong aka Melodypond from doctor who turned out to be a timelord when she was conceived in the presence of time vortex energy.
1 likeLet's just hope this secret princess isn't paid DLC
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EA 100
17 likesLOL
11 likes)%hope
8 likes@Natalia T its gotten better? the comment is 46 mins ago and the video is 44, it will soon collide and cause an earthquake
12 likesayy see theyre both 1 hour now 😏
4 likesI hear you unlock her by completing all of Equestria with out any one dyeing, Collect all the hidden coins and clear the goal with all of the characters nd get all the secret goals. But other sources say she's under a cider wagon when you push it out of the way.
3 likesLol
0 likesloll”olololl lololololllllllllll
0 likes@sasamichan Donkey Kong 64 amount of collectibles
0 likesMY THEORY:
5 likesI think that there may be another kingdom or continent where the alicorns live because the map of Equestria only shows the kingdoms in the show and not the other parts of the world. I believe that Celestia and Luna were part of that ‘kingdom’. In the Journal of the Two Sisters, it says that there were other alicorns in the time of Celesia and Luna. We also know that StarSwirl trained the two main princesses so I believe that Celestia and Luna’s parents sent them to Equestria to learn magic and learn about the other ponies. However, I don’t think this was the only reason. We know that before Celestia and Luna came to Equestria, the three pony tribes were separated and thus the windagos came and were only stopped by the three tribes coming together. The tribes decided to make banners with their respected trait on it and create Equestria. The alicorns decided to send Celestia and Luna to help with stop the windagos because they recognized the potential threat and disharmony. We know that Celestia and Luna are mirrors of eachother. One with the power of light and the other with the power of darkness. I also believe that the alicorns sent the sisters is because the both represent very important things. Celestia representing warm, mentorship, maturity, and harmony while Luna represents cold, caringness, dreams, and harmony. There is harmony in the day but there is also harmony in the night. People could argue that the alicorns could have sent only one of the sisters or two completely different alicorns. We have seen what would have happened if there was only one sister ruling already. Nightmare Moon turned the world into a kingdom of darkness while DayBreaker would have most likely turned it into a world of fire. You can’t have light without darkness or darkness without light. That is why the alicorns sent Celestia and Luna. They were the two ponies that Equestria needed the most. The show has also shown of mirrors of a few characters such as Twilight and Cadance. Twilight has two mirrors. Sunset Shimmer, who wanted Celestia to pay for not being there for her and rejected her pleads to learn more magic and Trixie, who was so jealous of Twilight because she didn’t have any friends of her own and no one loved her. Cadance’s mirror is Chrysalis because Chrysalis was feeding on love and hurting the ponies who gave her love instead of sharing it and knowing what it actually means. I believe that the alicorns don’t need to send anyone else to Equestria because of how much it has evolved throughout the show and how much it is still evolving. The alicorns are still very mysterious and, as much as I want to know more about them, they should stay mysterious because it is more interesting that way.
I always thought she was Princess Amore, a distant relative of Cadence's
5 likesThe one thing you gotta take into account is that the hearts and hooves day story.. is a story. Stories of that nature that cause traditions tend to change over time. Take Santa for example, he wasn't always the white bearded man in red we all know now. Maybe the princess in the story wasn't an alicorn to start with but changed into one because of the two sisters. As we have seen only female ponies have been alicorns so the story could of been changed a little to fit in with the new royalty system. So she may have been an alicorn but maybe she wasn't! The story doesn't have enough details sadly and we don't get much history behind it. It's fun to speculate tho!
0 likesMy theory is that Celestia made the unknown princess into a alicorn, and so the new princess decided one day that she would rule her own kingdom.
1 likeSo she left Equestria and found the Horse Country, lacking order and monarchy, and despite only being a pony, she soon assumed control as their princess. And since parts of legends are lost to time, the stallion who fell in love with her was actually a horse.
And so when the Kindom fell, it never recovered, the horses scattered and most came to Equestria, interbred with some ponies and formed Saddle Arabia, but that doesn't mean that there aren't horses outside of Saddle Arabia, I actually think that Troubleshoes is a horse.
Anyway, the princess found herself ruler of a broken Kingdom, losing trust and control of her subjects and eventually followed in their hoofprints towards Equestria.
She could not face Celestia after failing her kingdom, so she stayed away, carrying a foal that would be born any day now.
Unfortunately she gave birth in the woods and died in the process, leaving baby Cadence with no hope of survival.
Fortunately she was found a few hours later by a group of earth-pony mares, probably some type of nuns or monks or something.
They took her in but found that caring for a pegasus foal was no easy feat as they had no wings themselves.
So, somehow news got to Celestia, probably from the news of the Horse Kingdoms downfall and the knowledge that the unknown princess was with foal, so she searched Equestria and eventually heard of Cadence, who looked almost exactly like her mother. So Celestia took the filly in, adopting her as a niece, where she was cared for by castle staff and council, eventually earning her alicorn title and becoming the princess we all know and love today.
I still need to work on the details more but this is the basic plot. :)
Hasbro's animators who worked on mlp watching this be like: Finally, someone notices.
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It's also approved by a turtle 🐢
79 likesTrue tho..lol
25 likes@Just a turtle Wait I don’t get it. Ya talkin’ bout Tank?
25 likesMaybe they add wings on story princess just for estetic😂
23 likes@I stan too many groups! Check em out in my about I don't know, but my guess was Furry's stuff animal, Whammy(or some name sound similar to that).
15 likes@Just a turtle ouh hi :D you’re here too?
3 likesOr hashbro writers be like: Nah bruh, that's so not what that is.
6 likesYep!
2 likes@Just a turtle woah, you watch him?
4 likesYeah I made this 667 likes
1 likeWOOOOOOOOOOO NEW DISCOVERYYYY
1 likeDamn
0 likesHonestly I think it's basically making up a story instead, I can kinda see them be like: oh, so he's the scriptwriter now
2 likesWhat if the Prince died and the princess of love lost all her love with his death. She then took on a new name, Chrisalis, and raised a army against Equestria. Why? She feels that her love was stolen by ponies, and wants to take it all back.
2 likesXDDD good one
1 like@I stan too many groups! Check em out in my about TANK IS A TORTOISE
0 likes@Just a turtle you’re here too? I’ve see. You in so many place from commentary channels to my little pony channels.
0 likes@vixi Why do I always forget that?! 🤦♀️
1 likeSilly me
@Kirk Lundberg WOAH THATS REALLY COOL
1 likeWell, I guess if one of the sister princesses was Cadence's mother, specifically Luna, then Cadence would actually be Celestia's niece.
1 likeIn general, there are 100 official comics and several books in which you can find out how the Princess Luna became the Nightmare Moon, and who really is King Sombra, and even how Cadance became an alicorn.
0 likesEven on a simple Wikipedia, you can find information about how Princess Luna became the Nightmare Moon. I mean who helped her become Nightmare Moon.
One thing that has always hurt my head whenever I asked this question to myself: How the heck does Luna and Celestia raise the moon and sun?
0 likesThis theory also makes sense for the upcoming G5 movie and series as there doesn't seem to be any alicorns in the modern setting (that we know of as yet, not ruling anything out), because the land has lost all it's magic that would influence a pony's potential to become one
0 likesWhomever that Alicorn princess was, chances are she was long gone and if she did turn out to be Cadence's mother that would certainly explain a lot, and it would also reveal a lot more about Cadence's origins (That's obvious i know but still)
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I agree that this alicorn princess whoever she is, is long gone by now so it would make total sense for her to maybe be Cadences mother
27 likesHere is a question how does celestia match with being cadences aunt? And maybe because in that hearts and hooves day it said “a long time ago” that could probably be 1,000 years ago because celestia is probably over 1,000 years old wait maybe that could be your next vid how is celestia cadences moms sister or how old can alicorns really be like what is celestia 10,000 years old.
7 likes@Afghan Zindagi maybe they don't have any blood relation. Celestia could have just found Cadance and adopt her as her niece, especially because Luna is the only sister that Celestia has (or at least we know of) and she doesn't have any children.
9 likesU can't adopt somebody as a niece u could do it as a mother that's the only way but maybe her friends daughter and she was a niece because she were friends with her mother that she saves something like that.
0 likes@encanto fan can you re-type it with proper grammar and punctuations? I have a hard time understanding what you're trying to say
1 likeI also think an alicorn relation of hers being the ruler of the Crystal Empire prior to Sombra's reign makes sense as there was no question as to Cadence's legitimacy and even treated as if she was known all along.
4 likesOh ya
0 likesaapje van de gemeente heeft een grote invloed
0 likesBut we still don’t know who Cadence’s mother is
0 likesOr, the Prince died and the princess of love lost all her love with his death. She then took on a new name, Chrisalis, and raised a army against Equestria. Why? She feels that her love was stolen by ponies, and wants to take it all back.
0 likesWas cadence is a baby she founded in a forest by 2 Earth pony's in that case we don't get it who is cadence's mother ? but cadence's child time she is a Pegasus pony .
0 likes@Itz Diamond rare Gaming where is this said?
0 likesBut cadence's real mother can't be alicorn because her child time she was a Pegasus pony
0 likes@Itz Diamond rare Gaming where can I find this?
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg it's in the novel series they were making, it's from the one where Cadence tells Twilight her origins
0 likes@TriggerHappyEevee ok
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg Maybe is Celestia and Luna's mother with their father
0 likesMy question is are we factoring in the lore from the comics. I know Candance was actually a Pegasus before becoming an Alicorn and Celestia adopted her as her niece. I think she might of turned into an Alicorn shortly before babysitting Twilight. When Candance and Shining Armor were in school she was already an Alicorn.
1 likeI though that cadence, had an entire story in a book dedicated to just how she became an alicorn. How she was a Pegasus first who stood against another female pony who was trying to corrupt pony love,
0 likesI was sure the book was produced around the same time as season three... though I am not denying your theory...
My theory with the alicorns has always been that there are two tiers of alicorns you have the princess of kind where that's Luna Celestia and Twilight where they represent the concept of something and they are the only ones with the extra natural powers, royalty alicorn wouldn't have the longevity because they're not connected to a concept
0 likesI think the "side alicorns" were weaker alicorns. Every alicorn ages (Flurry Heart grew up, the sisters went to retirement), but more powerful alicorns (like Celestia and Luna) age more slowly. So I think the other alicorns simply died from old ages after a few hundred years.
0 likesI wouldn’t call this a theory, but just something I’ve noticed...
1 likeEvery alicorn we know about started out as a UNICORN and became an alicorn (except Flurry and unknown Cadence). Never has a PEGASUS or Earth Pony become an alicorn. I’ve been thinking, does this mean that unicorn magic can’t be given and must be born with? I mean, wings and strength seem to be able to be given, which makes sense. If this is the case, does Celestia know this? I mean, have you never questioned why she had a school for only talented UNICORNS, which is basically racist segregation in the MLP world? Maybe Celestia knows only unicorns can become alicorns? But let’s take this a bit farther... The wonder bolts. (If I’m wrong, I haven’t watched the show in a hot minute, give me a pass) Powerful and elite Pegasus’s chosen by royalty. What if the wonderbolts are failed ALICORNS-as in met all the requirements to be alicorns, but lack being born with unicorn magic-leaving them looking like normal Pegasus but with earth pony strength. Idk, I haven’t researched to prove or disprove anything. Feel free to comment anything that proves or disproves this, or just any feedback.
Celestia always hinted there were more Alicorns out there, especially when Flurry Heart was born. No one was born an Alicorn until Flurry Heart, they were created through "earning the right" like Twilight. So the story of another Alicorn Princess outside of the five makes sense even if the Hearts and Hooves Alicorn isn't Cadence's mom. Besides, the best we know about Cadence's family is that she's a niece of the Royal Sisters, hinting that they had siblings at one point. But considering their over +1000 age, Cadence is more likely adopted as a niece OR is descended from the unknown siblings of the Royal Sisters Or both.
0 likesOkay so hear me out… what if the secret alicorn is actually Celestia in her younger years… she did sound awfully experienced when she said that there had never been a naturally born alicorn… but here’s a new theory for you to explore, Is it possible that Celestia had a love life with someone and had a child herself? And if she did… with who? 🤔
1 likeI always headcannoned that Cadance is the reincarnation of the former Empress of the Crystal Empire (IE her cutiemark looking like the Crystal Heart) that was killed by Sombra during his take over.
0 likesThe alicorn from the story could in theory be the Crystal Empress in her youth. So in a way she's both is and isn't Cadance.
Here’s my thought: After Celesta and Luna became the new rulers, the other rulers didn’t get as much love and praise. So after years of this, their wings or horn was striped because they didn’t get this attention anymore. So they soon became average ponies.
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Good theory
17 likesI'm... Actually liking that theory it's a good explanation since cozy glow is proof that unbecoming an alicorn is possible
38 likesIndeed this is very much a logical conclusion to the mystery, however, if we take this thought a step further, i believe that this is the direct point of origin for the Equestrian Noble and Aristocrat families...
48 likesThey started out of nobles that held limited power over the populace of a specific region of Equestria, but as the princesses slowly became the figureheads of the nation, and power became centralised, they lost their power over their territories and thus the ability to continue their alicorn bloodline, giving birth to more generations of normal ponies of the usual 3 or 4 (if you count Batpony) tribes. This would also explain why Tia and Luna have never seen a naturally birthed Alicorn, they didnt get the chance to...
Face revel Smooth waves
6 likesEquestria entered the Age of Absolutism
10 likesAlso Maybe Celestia and Luna did "royal purges" to keep their legitimacy and avoid pretenders.
Nice fact
3 likesYeah, and those small rulers now has been replaced with other kind from ponies, such as Prince Rutherford ruling over Yakyakistan, Dragon Lord Torch (now Ember) ruling over Dragon land, Chrysalis (now Thorax) ruling over Changeling Kingdom, etc. Mayor Mare, Shining Armor, Cadance, and Flurry Heart might be the only ponies who now only rule or become a leader of a small section of Equestria.
2 likesActually this is a ponified mirror of our own history, the only difference is in our timeline, apart from the UK, the noble families just ended up becoming rich or normal families.
3 likesWhereas in Equestria, the noble (theoretically the Alicorn noble families that ruled over their own territories of Equestria) kept their families noble title and status but lost their ability to rule over their territories.
Back in medieval Europe this was the normal way to rule over territory, since communication and travel of the time, thus power projection and leadership, were extreamly costly and time consuming, it was better to subjicate your territory and have what are essentially smaller kingdoms that ruled under your crown in your own territroy.
As communications and transportation improved, power became centralised and these smaller noble families ceased to exist...
However the lack of more castle or forts makes this an interesting subject... if this were the case we should expect to see far more ruins across equestria, unless the ponies used wooden castles up to the point the two sisters began using stone... that would explqin the lack of ruins, because without constant monitoring and upkeep the wooden forts would just break down into piles of wet cardboard...
4 likesAnd arguably- YES! THAT IS IT!
The homes the noble families currently live in are in Canterlot, meaning that they must of moved to the capital to be nearer to the princesses!
If that is the case, then their former castles must of been abandoned at somepoint, so the local townsponies may have deconstructed the stonework to build their villages, since worked stone is hideously expensive.
This is also plausible by the Chatau style homes the nobels live in, a Chatau bring a castle like mannor house with little to no defencive value at all. Its a statement of class wealth and social power.
This is my logical conclusion!
@keth templar So are you implying Feudalism in Equestria hmmm
2 likesI guess the Crystal Empire is a fief? I Consider the Crsytal Empire either indepdendent Ally or a Vassal of Equestria, so either not a fief or fief
Also speaking of fiefs, are there any other feudal lords in equestria? Cuz i imagine equestria more of Absolutist than Feudal
Edit:Oh i realized yoh may also refer to past equestria
Which i guess you mwan Equestria used to be Feudal but then Celestia and Luna took Absolute power
And also maybe Yakyakistan, the Dragons, etc used to be/are still vassals
@Ulmer Videos yes, i was refering to an older equestria, but speaking of the Crystal empire, you bring up a valid point here!
3 likesWhen Celestia and Luna was gaining the centralised power of the country and forming a Diarchy, Sombra mayhaps didnt wish his kingdom to be ruled the way Celestia and luna wanted, afterall, a king knows whats best for his people, as the saying goes...
But despite how much he tried, he still lost the support of the majority of his subjects. Thus he reverted. Thus, the Alicorn amulet, and thus, the war with Equestria.
Change is the prime cause for resistance and thus war.
What if the Prince died and the princess of love lost all her love with his death. She then took on a new name, Chrisalis, and raised a army against Equestria. Why? She feels that her love was stolen by ponies, and wants to take it all back.
2 likes@Kirk Lundberg wow 😳. I never thought of it like that. Yeah I agree that’s a good theory
1 likeThat's a really good theory! That's why we haven't seen any other alicorns apart from the 5 we already know!
1 likeMy theory is chrysalis and sombra ruled the empire together and sombra turned evil out of fear like Luna did when celestial was beaten she fled chrysalis turned evil out of fear but kept her rule and took the crystal pony’s with her then they became changelings forever till they were liberated and turned to a different form chrysalis could not because her heart ran on hate they starved all the time so it’s possible chrysalis and sombra were alicorns and if chrysalis did reform she would look different than a changeling mabey an alicorn like sombra would possibly as well
1 like@🌸Jack Animates🌸 or maybe chrisalis went insane or desperate instead of just becoming evil.
1 likei think that because they became alicorns because they were exposed to the magic of other ponies, they didnt become permanant alicorns and possibly the magic faded after most ponies turned their attention to celestia and luna instead of these smaller royalties
0 likesMaybe one of those former rulers was Cinch's pony counterpart?
0 likesIn "The Crystalling" the vase Spike shows depicts both the mother and the crystaler as alicorns. I believe the story involved an alicorn from the Crystal Empire and a unicorn princefrom the unicorn kingdom (depicted in "Hearth's Warming Eve").
0 likesThere are now 6 known Alicorns in Equestria
4 likesPrincess of the sun
Princess of the moon
Princess of love
Princess of friendship
Princess of light
Princess of ?
Hey Sawtooth, could you do an episode on why, when the mane 6 turned the keys, transformed and defeated Tirek... When they transformed, everypony's mane got longer and was blowing in natural wind but ONLY Rainbow's mane colors were in motion as if she had alicorn magic. What's up with that???
1 likeSawtooth there’s one person you haven’t described yet: Princess Amore. She was the ruler of the Crystal Empire before Cadence and Sombra turned her into a statue, broke her into a thousand pieces and scattered those pieces into the ends of Equestria. Then Radiant Hope would’ve become the next Unicorn ruler of the Crystal Empire, so what if it came to a Alicorn starting to rule the empire during Sombra’s spell that hid the Empire from the rest of Equestria? That could be possible. Don’t you agree? Not to mention little is known about Princess Amore apart from The Journal Of The Two Sisters book and My Little Pony: Frenimes graphic novel which shows the origins of King Sombra, Trek, The Sirens, Nightmare Moon and Queen Chrysalis. I would really suggest reading those two books as I have them both and they are really good reads. They also allowed me to open up to this exact theory that I have now that I watched this video and read those two books. Thanks so much for reading this! Bye!!
0 likesMy personal headcanon about who the mysterious alicorn is, is that she IS Cadence's mother*, but more than that she is the mysterious Princess Amore (I think she may have been mentioned in the show once, but she was definitely mentioned in the comics.). If the alicorn is Princess Amore, it would explain why that one pony at the end of The Crystal Empire Part 2 exclaimed, "Behold, the Crystal Princess!" because Cadence was destined to rule after her mother's descent from the throne*. I do consider the books and comics to be canon to some extent, so I believe that in the book "Twilight and the Crystal Heart Spell", when Cadence was explaining that she grew up as an orphan in a remote village, that she had escaped the crystal empire somehow before Sombra took over.
176 likes*For reference, in the comics Princess Amore is turned to stone by Sombra, then destroyed. It is also up to debate whether or not Princess Amore is Cadence's mom or not, but Cadence WAS confirmed to be a direct descendant of Princess Amore.
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Princess amore is cadence 's mother
5 likesprincess amore is just a unicorn though, not an alicorn
8 likesMaybe she lost her alicorn hood like cozy glow
1 likeI know this is going to sound crazy, but what if when alicorns fall in love, get married, and/or have foals, they loose their "immortality". Since they have longer lifespans than their spouses, they may have to, or just choose to, give up that long life span for a regular life span. As for what happened to all the royal families, I'm guessing they married into each others families, each time limiting the diversity of the different royal lines until there are just a couple left today. (I'm talking about Prince Blueblood). So if the Princess in this story is Cadence's mother, she probably died a while ago since she probably gave up her immortality.
0 likesAlso, I think I finally now know what happened with Flurry heart and her window! We never see Shining Armor and Cadence in the future, and i think Flurry Heart took over for her mother. Because as the alicorn of love, Cadence would have a pretty hard time outliving her husband, unless she gave up her longer life span so she could be with Shining Armor, leaving Flurry heart to rule the Crystal empire.
Well, we know Flurry heart is the first alicorn to be born in Equestria. If there were other alicorns than those we know, their children would probably be alicorns too, so no alicorn had children before.
0 likeswell the episode specified there was "something about a dragon,chaos reigning,kingdom falling" cuz the pair was "so in love" , i think it'd be interesting is the princess wasnt a alicorn,but the author of the book didnt know what she looked like and associated "princess" with alicorn,so they depicted her as a pony alicorn,but she could've been anything,or maybe the stallion could have been anything,nothing stated they were ponies, so its possible they were shown as ponies in the book because there were no records of their apperances,and the story was written down by a game of telephone,i dare say,one of them was a dragon,the other a something else,maybe their relationship gave birth to Discord? theres many ways to go with this
0 likesedit: omg pony-washing
I see what you did there, but I have a much more simple theory:
0 likesThe princess in the story died... not from old age, but she was killed, or she lost her powers like Cozy.
She must've been Crystal Empire royalty, seeing as how Cadence was called "the crystal princess" and her crystal heart cutie mark and how Celestia was so sure she had to participate in the rebuilding of the empire when it came back. Why else would she have sent her, right?
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Call me crazy but maybe, just maybe, the unicorn in the book is king sombra, and the alicorn is cadences mother. Maybe before sombra fully corrupted he tried strengthening the kingdom with the love spell resulting in cadence. But obviously the spell failed, the alicorn continued to raise cadence away from the crystal empire and lost her horn/wings. Since love basically failed sombra, he corrupted and did his whole thing that could be why everything was so harsh and loveless.
26 likes@katrena Neverwoods the comic of that story were rip off at the Beginning of the End, no pun intended.
0 likesI’ve definitely seen comics of what people imagine of Cadence’s mother
0 likes@katrena Neverwoods The male is an Earth pony so it can'f be Sombra
5 likesin the comics, cadence is confirmed to be an orphan pegasus and celestia raising her as her pupil and eventually turning her into an alicorn. But, there was another princess in the Crystal empire, during this. Her name was Princess Amore, and she was the former princess of love. but, during Sombra’s rule, he shattered the Crystal heart and turned Amore into stone, then hid her pieces across equestria. Sombra was only defeated by the two royal sisters trapping him so he couldn’t escape.
11 likesnice theory 👍
2 likesWhat if the Prince died and the princess of love lost all her love with his death. She then took on a new name, Chrisalis, and raised a army against Equestria. Why? She feels that her love was stolen by ponies, and wants to take it all back.
0 likesKirk Lundberg :0000000 oh my goodness that’s actually pog- i’d love it if that was actually in the storyline
0 likes@katrena Neverwoods I always felt that King Sombra and Queen Chrysalis were the rulers of the crystal empire ( https://youtu.be/t2Mt-HuOWDY <----- why I feel this way) but your theory makes a lot of sense, with cadence not getting the love and praise of the 3 pony types she would lose her alicron magic...
0 likes@Sam Sargeant In MLP exist the Mashendanos?
0 likesHow come Twilight never noticed there was an alicorn civilization on her map unless, there wasn’t one. In past videos you talked about an ancient civilization were Celestia and Luna came from showing how they got their magical flowing hair. But Twilight has a map of all of Equestria and the lands beyond, yet she still never noticed a blank spot where there might be a civilization.
0 likesspeaking of alicorns, y’know what i never understood? why does human twilight get wings when she “ponies up” in “forgotten friendship” (2018) , but when she goes into equestria in “spring breakdown” (2019), she’s still a unicorn? i figured you’d have some thoughts about it, should you ever see this :) love your vids!
0 likesI think this guy puts more thought into the show than the actual creators did
0 likesI think it's unlikely to be Cadance's mother, especially given that flurry heart was the cause of the direct genetics of an alicorn. The princesses clearly said that flurry was the first alicorn born naturally, so Cadance would also end up having the genetics of an alicorn mother, making her the first.
0 likesunless... there is a chance in many that a baby will be born directly with the genetics of an alicorn...
oh boy i just answered myself-
My headcanon is that Cadance was sealed away by some villain or another soon after she ascended to alicornhood, and was freed by Celestia sometime before the Rainboom, which would explain why she appeared so much younger when she was babysitting Twilight.
0 likesI don’t think that there were more alicorns in equestria’s past, the association with royalty being due to the royal sisters rather than a prevalent alicorn royal class. The vestigial royals like Prince Blueblood are likely descendants of Princess Platinum, and not really related to the alicorn royals at all. I could see Celestia adopting Cadance as a niece after making her a princess, which would make the other ‘royals’ jealous, throwing a fit and forcing Celestia to adopt one (or more) of them as well to prevent conflict.
That being said, just because I don’t think there were more alicorns in ‘Equestria’s’ past doesn’t mean there weren’t more alicorns. Pre-Equestrian alicorns are definitely possible, and that’s an interesting idea on its own.
I just found your channel and I love it the mlp universe is very rich and great for theorizing as well! Love to see more vids
0 likeshere's my theory:
0 likesthe princess in the book is indeed cadence's mother and i think blueblood's mother aswell. The thing is i also think that she is related to the royal sisters and i think she was their sister too but after the crystal empire was destroyed and in sombra's control, celestia and luna avoided any signs of relation between them and their other sister so that they wouldn't be caught in a scandal. Instead, celestia adopted cadenza, renamed her cadence and put her to training to be the ruler of the crystal empire in the future. I also think that cadence's mother, turned into a changeling aka chrysalis. And the reason Chrysalis steals love is because she never felt real love (cuz of the love potion the prince gave her) and that's my theory
MLP: (ends)
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"The birth of an alicorn is something Equestria has never seen."
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EQUESTRIA. Only Equestria
52 likesCrystal empire before King sombra
18 likes@Tori Luna then proceeds to drop this nuclear bomb of a follow-up: "It is beyond even our understanding"
47 likes@LegoDev yes , but her follow up can also be interpreted as : "The birth of an alicorn in Equestria is beyond even our understanding"
26 likes@iman ishraf yes , exactly , Crystal empire is no a part of Equestria . they are two different empires
18 likes@Tori That is true...
4 likes@LegoDev yeah , which is what makes it so compelling , everyone gets the freedom to come up with their own theories, since they dialogues were so vague
4 likes@Tori If a lady gives birth to a baby on the moon, will it shock us that babies exist, just because one has never been born on the moon, before?
6 likesWhat is it, specifically, about Equestria that made it impossible for the mares pregnant with alicorn babies to give birth while inside Equestria's borders, until after crossing the border, leaving equestria? Is there some magical womb closing spell over Equestria that can detect alicorn babies? If so, why didn't they use that spell to seal Changeling wombs instead?
If we set off a nuclear bomb in Antarctica (something Antarctica has never seen before) and the resulting explosion conforms to the same laws of physics as we've seen when doing the same in other parts of the world, would yielding similar results be "beyond our understanding" or "no different than expected"?
No one has ever been shot with a shotgun in Antarctica, ever. Would you be willing to let someone point a loaded shotgun at you in Antarctica and pull the trigger? Is it unbelievable that a "first" can ever happen? Does the location have any impact on expected outcome?
@Icarus I disagree with your points! (Keep in mind I don't mean to be rude, I am writing all my theories is a friendly manner )
2 likesIf , for example, there was a VERY incredibly tamed city , and the criminal rate , let's just say although impossible, was inexistent.
Then , if someone were to kill someone there, it would come across as very shocking, wouldn't we then say , that THIS CITY has NEVER seen a crime happen, that indicates that other cities do exist where this is quite normal
Also , if a lady gave birth to a baby in the moon , it wouldn't shock us that babies exist, but the baby would still be considered special as birth is something the moon has never seen (bad joke but we'll role with it)
IN THIS CASE , HOWEVER, it's even better. The baby born isn't a normal baby , it's a baby born with a crown. ( Since wings and a horn is tied so closely to royalty , this comparison is nit that far fetched)
Instead of HAVING to make someone royalty , Flurry was born as royalty. In this case, by 'royalty' I only mean people meant to rule , even though Flurry was born from and empress, who's to say her power was not going to be as useless as Prince Blueblood's ?
Even tho Prince Blueblood was born royalty, he is clearly not meant to rule, or has the capability to , because then Celestial would've never needed to seek a pupil elsewhere- by making a school.
So not everyone born in the royal family will get their own kingdom in Equestria , as being an ALICORN is something GIVEN to you AFTER you prove your worth.
But Flurry? She was already an ALICORN which indicates she is already born a ruler , by going by history that alicorns typically become rulers.
So if someone if born with a crown on their head , everyone would be surprised, since a crown is put on a person after they prove worthy of the throne.
Wouldn't everyone be shocked?
It's quite possible that celestia and luna were born alicorns , since The movement of the sun and the moon is extremely crucial, I think them being born royalty already is quite possible.
Thus , it's possible they were ONLY talking about Equestria.
@Tori Okay, a lot to unpack here. First, we look at Alanis Morrisette's incorrect definition of "ironic" (as opposed to coincidence). This is relevant to compare to the MLP statement.
1 likeAn old man turned 98, won the lottery, and die the next day. This is a coincidence. There is nothing about winning the lottery that is proven to extend your lifespan.
A black fly in your chardonnay. That is bad luck. There is nothing about chardonnay that repels bugs.
A death row pardon two minutes too late. Again, bad luck. Getting a pardon isn't known to cause busy signals on the phone lines.
Rain on your wedding day. Is there something magical about weddings that cause the weather to become sunny? No.
Man afraid to fly, flies for the first time and the plane crashes. Bad luck. There was nothing about that plane that was ironic.
Now what are examples of true irony? A house that burns down because the fire alarm system caught on fire. Why is that ironic? Because fire alarms are supposed to warn you of fire, not create fire.
The Titanic, a ship specially designed to be unsinkable, actually sinking. This is ironic because it defies expectations.
Or as Weird Al put into his song Word Crimes, a fire truck on fire. That's ironic, because you'd expect a firetruck to have equipment on board to put out fires.
So as you can see, in order for expectations to exist, there must be some LINK between what is happening and what DEFIES logical expectation.
So if this is shocking that an Alicorn can be born in Equestria ONLY, there must be an expectation that Equestria somehow PREVENTS Alicorns from being born (and at the same time, lands OUTSIDE equestria for some reason ALLOW alicorns to be born). That Equestria's land is somehow MORE expected to never have an Alicorn birth than anywhere else in the world. Otherwise it is just coincidence/luck. No expectation/irony.
The fact that the land of equestria is no different than any other land when it comes to where babies are born proves it is not the LOCATION that is shocking, it is the ALICORN that is shocking.
Have you seen the TruGreen commercial where a UFO and aliens are standing in someone's yard and the neighbors are in shock and awe. The neighbors don't mention the aliens or the UFO. They are amazed of how green the lawn looks. This is what you are proposing. That they were in shock about Equestria and not the wings/horn.
If you give birth to an elephant and I say, "Wow, a human being giving birth to an elephant has never been seen on earth." That doesnt mean that humans are giving birth to elephants on Mars. It means that NO human being are giving birth to elephants, period.
Why did Celestia bring something irrelevant (the location, specifically Equestria) into the conversation? Because they speak as if Equestria is the whole world (much like how Americans are USA-centric in thought). Unless you can prove a link between locations and species born, then there can be no way to make the statement relevant. Why not say, "The birth of an alicorn is something never seen at this time on this day". Its true, Flurry was the only Alicorn in the world born at that minute/hour/day. Because that's a lame thing to point out! It shouldn't be shocking. It should be like "okay, that's oddly specific. So all Alicorns were born in other countries and this is the first and that's shocking? You knew she was pregnant and going to give birth, what did you expect? Was this really a surprise?"
Do you think when the europeans came to America, when the first european gave birth, that the other europeans were in shock saying, "The birth of a non-native is something this land has NEVER seen before! How could this be possible?!" No, they were like, "this is the billionth baby being born, and its being born in a place, just like every other baby is."
Just explain ONE thing to me. What is it that is specifically about the territory called EQUESTRIA that does not allow Alicorn births (that does NOT apply to ANY OTHER LAND which ARE allowed alicorn births)? What is DIFFERENT about equestria that PREVENTS the birth of alicorns? Would Celestia have still be shocked if Cadence happened to go into labor during a visit to the Dragonlands?
Maybe Grogar put a curse on the land of Equestria that all Alicorns born within the territory called Equestria would be stillborn and dead. And somehow, Flurry defied the curse and shocked them by being ALIVE. And they were shocked that somehow she expectantly dodged the bullet. But then, why wouldn't Cadence leave the cursed land of Equestria to give birth in a neighboring land?
@Tori Oh yes, Luna and Celestia born Alicorns because of the need to move the sun and moon? Its established that a group of unicorns (including starswirl) were doing that BEFORE Celestia/Luna. So there was no rush.
1 likeAlso, Rarity stated that she thought that an alicorn was formed when accomplishing a princess-worthy deed. Why didn't Celestia say, "No, Rarity, Luna and I were born alicorns and we didn't need to do a princess-worthy deed."? They just agreed with Rarity. Even Applejack questions how a baby can be born with a horn and wings. So every line solidifies that Flurry is the ONLY alicorn ever born in existence.
Rarity: But... But... But I thought Alicorn wings had to be earned by accomplishing some great, princess-worthy deed!
Applejack: Yeah. How can you just be born with 'em?
Princess Celestia: The birth of an Alicorn is something Equestria has never seen!
Princess Luna: It is beyond even our understanding.
Notice how Rarity/Applejack/Luna/Celestia never mention the "Equestria Territorial Alicorn Abortion Spell" failing for the first time. It's because there's no magical explanation why Alicorn births are banned ONLY in Equestria, specifically.
@Icaruslisten , I read your comment , but let me tell you something
0 likesI love having discussions about theories other people have , and I like comparing our opinions and examples.
But for some reason it doesn't seem you are listening to what I am saying, rather it seems you would rather 'debunk' my points, than comparing them so we can reach a common ground-
I know you can't convey tone through texts, but for some reason I am feeling uncomfortable replying to you , I hope it's not offensive to you that I am leaving mid conversation, thankyou
@Tori No, I am not shocked or surprised that you are leaving, and even though someone named kawaiimochi leaving a conversation on March 28, 2021 is something that YouTube has never seen, it is NOT beyond my understanding.
0 likes@Icarus but you are confusing cutie marks with alicorns now.
0 likesI am not sure whether Celestia and Luna were born alicorns or not because I don't have much evidence and haven't read their diaries, but what I do know is that they became rulers AFTER they earned their cutie marks .
A princess worthy deed , wouldn't that be moving the sun and the moon? The 5 unicorns were low key dying doing it everyday , and Celestia and Luna had a great affinity for magic and moving sung and moon , so I think I would consider that the great deal.
But then that leaves you jnto the rabbit hole of : if they weren't born alicorns , who made them the ALICORN ?
If they could ALREADY move the sun and the moon even as a unicorn , why did they need to become an ALICORN in the first place ?
So personally , ofcourse, I like to imagine they were born alicorns .
Why else would other people even humour them if they weren't born royalty?
If a random foal comes to you saying they can life the SUN that take 5 magically skilled unicorns to do so , no one would believe them or give them the chance .
If they were princeses however , I believe something like this happened : that celestia and luna, being skilled at magic , thought to lend the 5 unicorns a hand , but then when they did so , found out that they can even do it themselves, thus getting their cutie marks .
Although there are many holes in this story
For example, why did they get involved in the first place? Or is it possible they figured it out before they helped the 5 unicorns? How do you even figure out you can move the LITERAL SUN?
So it's just my headcannon , unless I get more Materials I can't form a well cut out theory
@Icarus yes 💕 because attacking my decision to leave a conversation that was going nowhere REALLY proves your point and makes my points feel valid and respected! I am proud to have already figured out a toxic person to compare theories to , good thing I didn't take your words to heart. I am gonna go find someone respectful who understands how theories works . 🦋🦋🦋
0 likes@Tori This is what makes sense to me.
0 likesFive unicorns combined could barely move the sun/moon. Then two unicorns not only individually did each task ALONE, but they did it with ease. So perhaps let's say Celestia contain 100x the sun raising capability of each of the 5 unicorns (and the same goes for Luna with the moon).
In other words, Luna and Celestia were not each just the power of 5 unicorns combined, otherwise, they'd be straining to do the task. No, by being 100x more powerful, they could accomplish it without strain. That would give them their cutie marks and MAYBE turn them into alicorns at the same time (or that probably happened later with a princess worthy deed). It was already established that unicorns were in charge of raising the sun/moon, so two new unicorns getting hired in would just be retirees replacing themselves.
As for who allowed them or gave them permission? Would YOU be able to stop them the first time they got the whim to attempt it? It's not like there's a permission form or permit that they'd have to get. Look at the burst of power Twilight showed when she got her cutie mark, hatched Spike's egg and made him grow huge. Who gave HER permission to do that? No one. It just happened unexpectedly, without anyone's permission. How did Celestia/Luna find out that they could move the moon/sun? How did Twilight find out she could make a baby dragon grow huge? By accident.
I still say it is impossible for an alicorn to be born because Applejack outright stated it and Celestia/Luna didn't correct it.
Applejack didn't use the "in Equestria" qualifier and she spoke BEFORE Celestia said it.
@Tori Your "theory" contradicts the canon of the show. Is it "respectful" to just throw away the canon?
1 likeOkay, I theorize that dragons can't get wings. If you disagree then you are being disrespectful and toxic. If you present evidence from the show contrary then you are just trying to disprove my point instead of listening and comparing theories.
@Icarus I did provide examples tho?I was simply referring to your examples and interpreting them because that's how literature wor- nvm I theorize I shouldn't have a discussion with someone who obviously just wants to be in the right XD
0 likesOMG YOU are right!!! Your theories are perfect and people that interpret certain dialogues differently than you are disrespectful ✋😌
You're literally so perfect 😻 bestie ily and I wish I was as perfect and breathtakingly intelligent and you so I could tell the difference between conclusing and theorising
, Anyway you're perfect now be happy and leave me tf alone
@Icarus if that's what your headcannon is , I respect it and believe you should be able to think like that. I respect how you interpreted their words , and if that theory makes the most sense to you , that's awesome. Even if you don't believe the same for me , I am going to leave it at that
0 likesThe birth of an Alicorn is something that the closet that Spike was hiding in during his molting has never seen, either.
0 likes@Tori My interpretation is that the birth of an Alicorn is something that equestria has never SEEN is because every pony present at Celestia's and Luna's births had their eyes poked out. That's why it wasn't SEEN.
0 likes@Icarus you're acting so pathetic it's hilarious 😂
0 likes@Tori That is true, ONLY IN EQUESTRIA. No where else.
0 likes@Tori Wait you said I'm "ACTING" pathetic. Acting is fake, it's what an ACTOR does. So an actor, in real life, is not the same as whatever they are ACTING like.
0 likesSo you are saying that, I, the person behind the acting, am NOT pathetic.
@Icarus Why is everyone overlooking the fact that Cadence gave birth in the Crystal Empire*? Which is *outside Equestria. What Celestia said doesn't make any sense.
4 likes@Ariel Schnee333 The map of Equestria INCLUDES the Crystal Empire.
0 likesWhen the Crystal Empire disappeared, the empty land there still was a part of Equestria. The Crystal Kingdom was never outside of Equestria.
@Tori Maybe because Celestia and Luna were so young when this Alicorn Royalty happened and when they were the only ones to raise the sun and moon with no difficulty (they probably also faught many villains as Crystalist knew Celestia was very powerful) People might have realized they were Meant to rule alone and all current Alicorns probably lost there magic.
0 likes@Ok ok that's quite possible actually. But young fillies fighting villains doesn't sit right with me -
0 likesI would really like to know exactly when celestia and Luna earned their cutiemarks
@Icarus that's not the map of equestria. If you notice that map also includes Klugetown , Seaquestria and yakyakistan and also everfree forest. Equestria is a KINGDOM , Crystal empire is an EMPIRE , not the same thing
2 likes@Icarus can you stop attacking people and feeling like you are the only one who is right? That's all I am asking . And if your reply to this comment is something "Well technically acting is done by an actor" or amy other stupid argument like that , I'd prefer you don't partake in this argument. There are two others who are just as interested in this thread , and are not being jerks.
2 likesFor example@LegoDev and ariel
0 likes@Tori can you stop attacking me for disagreeing with you? Can you stop acting like you are right and the writers of the show are wrong? Jeez. It looks like Flurry isn't the only baby.
0 likes@Icarus I never attacked you? I even said I respected your theory? Also you just did it again . I hope you get through whatever is making you hate on people for no reason , stay strong
2 likes@Tori I never attacked you. But you take anything anyone says that you disagree with as a personal attack against you.
0 likesNo one can state their beliefs, as they might differ from yours, and injure you. In Equestria.
@IcarusI'll only continue this conversation IF you promise to be mindful of your words , or if you open your mind to new theories. You need to realise that the dialogues were these vague so that we can come to our own conclusions, we don't have to stick with the status quo.
1 like@Tori If I ask you a question whose answer is in opposition to your beliefs, will you be okay?
0 likes@Icarus yes , otherwise we can't call this a discussion
1 like@Tori Okay. Let's discuss shock/surprise. There's positive surprise and negative surprise.
1 likeWhy are the ponies all serious, stern and somber when they show their surprise? Even frowning?
If they received the positive surprise of the century, wouldn't Celestia and Luna be like, "YES! Equestria finally got its first alicorn!" and be smiling, and every pony hoof bumping and celebrating that they've finally caught up with the rest of the world?
Kind of like a smiling, clapping Kim Jong Un, celebrating North Korea's first working missile bringing them out of the 3rd world?
Instead, they look like they are all concerned, or worried because the news has destroyed and turned their understanding of the universe upside down. They are instead treating Flurry's birth like it is Equestria's first case of COVID.
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0 likesSTOP!
0 likes@LegoDevthat’s cool
1 like@Big Topaz RUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 like@clutzicon STILL RUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 like@LegoDev ya but technically they weren't there at the time
0 likes@Tori And yet Flurry was born in the Crystal Empire, NOT Equestria. So you would think one of the older Crystal Ponies might be able to shed some light on the subject, or one of the ancient books in the libraries?? The fact that it's never brought up from an Equestria vs the rest of the world needs to be explored.
1 likeI love all the fanfics who show Luna and Celestia with their mother, showing the Alicorns as a fourth pony type that had been eradicated aside from Luna and Celestia. HOWEVER, it's been proven they were MADE Alicorns by saving the 6 mages who were once the bringers of the sun and moon, and how the girls got their cutie marks, by taking over for them and thus becoming the first Alicorns (Canon). Cadence may have become an Alicorn very early in her life, as Twilight had....maybe even earlier. Which would truly make Flurry a special case, perhaps her Alicorn magic could overtake the other 4 princesses in strength, and so she was born already. Plus with her ability trait so comparable to her mother's, it was probably Canice's and Shining's love that caused her to be an Alicorn at birth.
Wasn't cadance a pegasus and eventually BECAME an alicorn?
0 likes@Second Ace says who?
0 likes@Mark Erikson it was in a book i don't remember which one but it was + it ties into the royal sisters dialouge
0 likes@Second Ace wait thhen.. HOL UP[
0 likesYes, and aaaall the bad stuff only happened 1000 years ago
0 likes@Tori yeah,many it was somewhere else
0 likes@LegoDev oh your right
0 likescause equestria didnt exist yet. equestria is one place. alicorns happened outside of equestria often in the past it just seemed equstria had never had one.
2 likes@Jroxs12pone would luna have known about it?
0 likesGUYS CELESTIA AND LUNA WERE BORN ALICORNS
1 like„Equestria“ not other Places
0 likesCadence was born a pegasus
1 like@Vivek Badonia according to whom?
0 likes@Mark Erikson The books Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell and Princess Cadance and the Spring Hearts Garden and Amy Keating Rogers state that Cadance was born a Pegasus and became an Alicorn later.
1 likeThe history of Equestria is interesting and attractive by its mysteriousness
0 likesHeyy, Sawtooth Waves! What do you think of idea of making a video about Gusty the Great? It's an INCREDIBLY interesting theme to reflex on.
0 likesIn other theory of yours (about Grogar's previous being as the constellation) you did use much information about Gusty. Then we have found out that she was not only more powerful than the Alicorn Sisters and all the alicorns, but also more powerful than the f**King Elements! That's un-be-lievable. And she was just a unicorn!
Or not? We have seen she possessed a really weird form and looked like Shadow Pony. But Gusty was kind. And even Shadow Pony was much less powerful than Gusty.
I just have no suggestions about that and it'd be awesome if you made the video with your thoughts.
But isn’t Cadence an “artificial” alicorn?
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Yes because it’s cannon she was born a Pegasus
1 likeNow that you mentioned Prince Blue Blood, I came up with an idea. What if Cadence was the princess and Blue Blood the prince in the story just like you said on the previous video about Cadence's past?
0 likesI will repeat myself:
250 likesI think that the Princess from the story is our mysterious"Princess Amore"
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Omg someone finally said it. I kept thinking that throughout the entire video!!!!!
23 likesYeah, nice one
4 likesThey were absolutely not alike though
2 likesShes confirmed to be an unicorn in comic series, specifically the one that focuses on Sombras backstory.
20 likesno, she's a normal unciorn. we see her in the comics. she was the last ruler of the cystal empire before sombras attack. we see him "kill" her in the comics during sombras origin comics/
12 likes@Jroxs12pone She was an alcorn but she turned it back into a unicorn I think
4 likesI thought the same too!!!
1 like"Amore" is cadence's middle name
0 likes@Destiny DZYT thats irrelevant.
2 likesPlenty of ponies have the same words as part of their names.
@Destiny DZYT Yeah but there's another character named Princess Amore, and it's not Cadence.
0 likesIf you're talking about princess 'Mi Amore', that's just a nickname given by shining armor to Cadence. It means "my love" in Spanish.
1 like@Bananarr; Destroyer of Worlds There's another character named Princess Amore, that's the one we're talking about.
2 likesBut wait a minuete Princess Amore is a unicorn but what was shown in the episode was an alicorn
1 likeMe-AMORE-Cadnza! Omg!!!
1 likeI thought amore was cadance
0 likesAnyway, whoever the princess is, she must be related to Cadence. Here’s some tips that might help you figure out and post ‘ Finally solving Alicorn princess.’
0 likes1. I think that Cadence would have just past the arguing people, but instead, she used her magic. It’s a waste when you need it for something more important. I think the Mayor was the one who gave her the guilty-ness so she used her magic.
2. Maybe the potion contains Cadence’s cells, which caused her birth. The Mayor could have been inside the whole mystery, and she might be Cadence’s cousin or something. She also could be the Alicorn Princess’s friend (or something connected to the Princess, at least!).Then, her parents told her about the mistake, and she felt sorry for her relative mayor.
All this I’ve said, is just that I think the Mayor has something to do with this. Hope it’s helped you!😘
P.S: I love your subjects for your mystery.❤️🧡💛💚💙💜❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
It could also be that, like most fairytales this one was also first spread verbally.
0 likesLater it was written in a book and illustrated. Because by that time the idea of royalty=alicorn was so prominent the princess was drawn as an alicorn.
Is it Cadence's mother? Like you said at the beginning maybe it is passed down in DNA but differently to make people's relationships fixed or make people in love? It's a mystery.
0 likesThis is so interesting, because if Cadance was the two’s daughter than that means she was conceived under a love potion, and we saw how that turned out with You-Know-Who 😂
0 likesHold the phone
295 likesIf blue blood is Celestia’s nephew and in this theory Candence is Celestia’s niece...
Who would be their parents? Are they siblings? Is Luna Blue Blood’s mom? Is there another Royal sister?
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Ikr i akways question this there must be another sibling to celestia and Luna whether they are alicorn ir not but we are never informed about it unless they died. However u did read that blue blood us a decent of Princess platinum and was adopted by celestia like cadence
23 likesHmm... Idk:(
2 likes@Shahida's Kitchen time! actually I went deep into the wiki of mlp and they had both a sister and a brother, the sister being like a snow sister named Princess Ingrid and the oldest one, she turned evil. and they also had a brother called Orion. Snowflake is Princess Ingrids daughter. Cadence is the granddaughter of Orion so actually related to them and its no where told what happend to Orion. and the weird thing is prince Blue blood isn’t related to them, so he’s a prince from a different royal family which makes this theorie video even more likely to be true.
22 likes@Shahida's Kitchen time! Princess Platinum is actually not cannon, not even in the comics where my info comes from...
8 likes@Bo Braekevelt thats interesting ive never knew thnx for telling me
1 likeMost if my info comes from the show its self and stuff its from there we never were inroduced tk any if these ponies so i never knew that there were more to the family
Even through we were never introduced to her father apparently they were going to introduce him in the my little pony the movie hen they changed him into heinf tempest shadow
@Bo Braekevelt ive never read the comics and im prettu sure she is "cannon " her actual appearance was never shown but history of her is true when the mane six held the play where they represented the founders of equestria she was the ruler of unicorn and i cant remeber but there was this whole theory on smthing and in it it mentioned that her father was supposed to attend that meeting but wasnt able to she went
4 likes@Shahida's Kitchen time! yeah but she’s not an alicorn, so that makes her as likeable to be related to rarity as too Luna or Celestia
3 likesCandence was adopted and most likely Blueblood too
6 likesOnce I saw a vid that there is a third sister and she had red hair but I think she moved to a countrie other than Equestria
0 likes@Chelsy Claunch its blue hair, the third sister is basically elsa
1 likeSawtooth waves should really make a video on this.......
1 likeCadence not candence
0 likesNo Cadence's parents r both Earth ponies
0 likesNo!
1 likeLuna is not blue Blood 's mom
1 like@Bo Braekevelt The wiki you looked as was a fanon wiki, not the official one. Sorry, :(
2 likesI think it's less of a biological relationship and more platonic (unless I have the wrong definition of platonic)
2 likes@Bo Braekevelt this is fanon- fan canon lol
2 likesYes I've always questioned "Who IS Prince Blueblood?"
0 likesCadence is Celestia's theoretical neice because they said that Celestia adopted Cadence as her neice, she could have done the same for Blue Blood. But still, family is family, wherever you come from
0 likesLuna is BlueBlood mom and Cadence’s adopted mom.
0 likes@SOPHIEXV1BES #roadto50 sorry but nope
0 likesPerhaps princess amore is Celestia and Luna’s long-lost sister and blueblood and cadences mom
0 likesI always thought they were honorary, rather than actually blood related
0 likesThey’re adopted. I’m not joking that the actual explanation.
0 likesCadence became an alicorn after defeating an evil pony named prisma. Here is the excerpt saying so from the wiki. It comes from a chapter book.
0 likesChapter books
Princess Cadance is featured in the chapter book Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell. The book tells the story of Twilight Sparkle after she'd been made an Alicorn and seeks advice on being a princess. She turns to Cadance, who tells her life story, how as a baby Pegasus she was found in the woods by Earth ponies, who took her to their village. When she grew up she reversed a love-stealing spell cast by a pony called Prismia. Prismia wore a magic-enhancing necklace that amplified her evil and jealousy, but when Cadance confronted her, the necklace amplified Cadance's love. Once Prismia changed her horrible ways, Cadance was surrounded by magical energy and transported to a strange place where she met Celestia, who adopted her as her royal niece.
Queen Chrysalis was probably that princess, she may have once been very beautiful, and maybe since she fell in love through alternate means and not by true feelings she transformed into a Changeling after believing that love through true methods was a farce and force was the only option. The reason she was depicted as a pony was likely a coverup since I don't think ponies would like the fact that the Changeling queen is where Hearts and Hooves day originated.
0 likesPlot twist: All the “Animation error Alicorns” Are actual alicorns
4 likesIf the princess in the story is Cadance, then the kingdom that fell to its downfall is probably The Crystal Empire, when it was being ruled by King Sombra
0 likes“The birth of an alicorn has never been seen in equestria”
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It isn’t a birth tho but transformations that stopped when Celestial And Luna ruled
14 likesMaybe it because she wasn't born in Equestria?
4 likesCadence wasnt born an Alicorn though-
13 likes@Tangle Hamain Yes.
3 likesWell yes, but Cadence wasn’t born an alicorn. The connection of Cadence and the alicorn are the love themes.
8 likeswhy doesnt it happen whena pegasus ad unicorn do that?
1 like@DerpyThree Cus thats not how genetics wokrs in Equestria..
3 likes@Tangle Hamain oh
1 like@DerpyThree Otherwise we wouldnt be theorising about it ^^'
3 likesMy two cents: The Crystal Empire isn't part of Equestria. Its an independent nation, separate from Equestria. Or at least, it was before it vanished. Now in modern times, its ben annexed into Equestria but still has Cadence as a figurehead
2 likes@Undertaker9711 It explains why they have a seperate ruler
0 likesCelestia: The birth of an alicorn is something Equestria has never seen
0 likesA question for a future theory perhaps? :
1 likeWhy does Celestia have Rarity's element on her crown and necklace??
'At least the only alicorns we know of...'
7 likes*Insert crowd gasp sound effect*
Cadence and Cadence’s mother spread love to the Crystal Empire in order to prevent the country from being corrupted by hatred.
0 likesI think that it's an entirely different alicorn. I think that it might be someone from cadence's family tree. I mean,it is easy to see those two related since they both have something to do with love like the theory you just said and you also explained how cadence would be celestia's niece. The reason in my head why we don't know about this alicorn could be because she was present a long time ago and that their next generations weren't alicorns. What if after the royal sister's started ruling the other royals started losing their power and purpose and didn't really get that much attention (by power I mean their ability to do something in equestria as they were royalty). As they didn't get much attention their families wouldn't become alicorns. And that may be the reason we don't know about this particular alicorn. But I'm not sure about cadence being related to this mystery alicorn.
0 likesOr our mystery alicorn is a changeling.
(P.S. I am using someone else's phone so don't ask questions about that.)
This is the kind of stuff I look forward to every Friday
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same
2 likesMe too
2 likesSame
2 likesmost definitely
1 likeSame
0 likes*every other
0 likesYup
0 likesThe salt is real! My little pony had so much potential for older-age audience style lore/content that was left unsaid because the show was mainly catered towards younger children. Sawtooth does a very good job at theorizing what they left unsaid and I personally accept most of his theories. I feel that just because it's a cartoon about magic doesn't mean that Hasbro should've only catered to young kids, most people who had watched the older generation of mlp are now older (like me, I'm only 19 but I watched older gens because my mom introduced them to me) and would probably watch reboot/new gen just because they had previously enjoyed it. Steven Universe has a likehood to mlp in some sort because it's a animated cartoon about magic and it's definitely NOT for young children!
0 likesI think that the Alicorn Princess from that story was Cadence’s mother. Here’s how my story of the theory goes.
0 likesLong, long ago a unicorn princess was crowned, ruler of her kingdom. The ponies poured their loyalty and love and it absorbed into the princess turning her into an alicorn. Not long after a prince made a love potion for this princess and decided to use it on her. He took her out for a night and they drank the potion. The spell worked and they had a foal named Princess Cadence. The couple had become so tangled up in each other that they forgot about their duties and the kingdom fell apart. Cadence’s mother came out to address the crowd about the kingdom, but their hatred had grown for the princess that dragged them down. The alicorn magic was pulled away from her, transforming her back into a unicorn. This has broken the love spell due to it being mixed with her alicorn magic. The princess ran away in shame and the prince shortly vanished after. Cadence was too young to rule so the ponies fled and split up to Canterlot, PonyVille, and CloudsDale where they remained happily.
So yeah that’s my theory on what happened. Short version is basically some princess turns into an alicorn, gets a spell put on her by a prince, kingdom falls apart, child is too young to rule, they split up, yeah.
Congratulations sawtooh waves! You just made a new ship!
0 likesI saw a comment saying 'She must've been Crystal Empire royalty, seeing as how Cadence was called "the crystal princess" and her crystal heart cutie mark and how Celestia was so sure she had to participate in the rebuilding of the empire when it came back. Why else would she have sent her, right' now when Sawtooth said what happened to her I started to wonder and finally came to a conclusion maybe when Sombra took over the mother and the father would have had to give out all of her power to Sombra but they wouldn't give up so easily they took the power of the crystal ponies and from into a heart and hide or put candace into some village where the rest of the story from the book takes place. I hope Sawtooth you notice this comment.
0 likesAnyone else think Queen of the changeling herself would be this pony? That would help explain their change in look when giving love. This could possibly answer why some pony is so focused on the Crystal Empire.
0 likesThe stallion in the drawing looks a bit like the prince BlueBlood, and the mare like Cadence. Maybe they are more connected more than you let on?🤔
0 likesI don't think Cadence is that old. In the flashback, we see that she looks just like a regular pegasus but with a horn in terms of her size and structure. In the present, her wingtips started turning purple, her horn was longer and pointier, and her facial structure started flattening out like Celestia and Luna's. Her wings were also longer and pointer when folded. She was larger too. She is about the same size as Shining Armor and he is bigger than Twilight and Cadence looked about the same size Twilight was in that episode in the flashback. What's more, in the final season we see Twilight presumably fully grown. This is far enough in the future that all her friends are getting old. They aren't as old as Granny Smith but they aren't young. Twilight is about the same size as Celestia in that episode. You could argue that Luna was smaller than Celestia so Cadence's full size could be similar, but you can see that she is still noticeably smaller than Luna and her face was more like that of a regular pony. I think if we saw Cadence in the final episode, she would have the same size and shape as Luna at least, maybe the same as Celestia and Twilight. I think that Cadence became an alicorn no more than a few years before Twilight was born. There is still a possibility that she is older or related to the pony in the myth, but I think it unlikely.
0 likesHey Sawtooth I have a video idea! its about a question I always had
1 likeWhy does Mist mane have wavy hair?
I mean Star swirl does not have it and I always thought it was because they had great power or you could get it for being a alicorn but Mist mane it probably not as powerful as Star swirl and she is just a unicorn. Its something I always had a question about so I decided to ask you. :)
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Because she’s an old wrinkly sorcerer
0 likesAre we gonna get a “how did equestria become this way” theory for gen5? Since it’s set in the future.
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I have asksed sawtooth before about doing theories about gen5, but i think he ignored that
3 likesI’d kinda like to think that twilight is chilling somewhere on vacation. I know that there’s like 0 chance that that’s the actual reality but I personally find that if it were true and the gen 5 ponies found her, it would be entertaining.
0 likes@Sangeeta A don't assume maybe he just didn't see it
0 likesCadence being celestia's niece does raise some questions about celestia's and Luna's family like were there any other siblings in their family
0 likesIt could have been where there used to be many alicorns but since of an alicorn falling under that big of a spell clestea could have took control and pretended that it never Happened and that’s why Celestia said that a birth of an alicorn they have never seen and cadence could of been to young to remember her mother.
1 likethe hearts and Hooves Days Alicorn is The previous Love Princess In celestia or Lunas Diary it has the words A previous Princess of love That ran away
2 likes"the birth of an alicorn is something we've never seen," said Celestia
0 likesSomething weird that I’m now noticing is that since prince blue blood is celestial nephew wouldn’t that mean celestia has a sibling we haven’t met yet?
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Prince Blueblood is descended from Princess Platinum. And just like Cadance, is adopted by Celestia
17 likesOne question... If the small branches of royals became alicorns because they received admiration and praise from the 3 types of magic, then shouldn't a famous pony, say countess coloratura, also be an alicorn?
0 likesIs Blue Blood actually Celestia's nephew? The only one I remember mentioning it is Rarity during her fantasising about finding her then unnamed prince charming, but that was long before she actually met him.
0 likesI feel like royal families were a pre-Equestrian thing. In many of the ancient legends we hear, which all take place around the same time, there are different royals. Princesses, princes, empresses, pharoahs, etc.
0 likesI believe that the leadership of Maretonia are all alicorns. The only two we see in the show are completely covered up with robes and wearing elaborate hats that could easily conceal their wings and horns.
0 likesI love how he actually puts flurry heart in the thumbnail!
86 likesI had a question about wallflower in forgotten friendship I was wondering why she was specifically mad at sunset she could have been mad at everyone couldn't she why just sunset it's like sunset had done sth personal but sunset took power of the whole school nothing personal it affected everyone it didn't make sense so when I heard the song invisible a line piqued my interest "a memory forgotten" when we saw the flashbacks they only showed after sunset came everywhere it sounded like they'd never known wallflower but then that line should have been sth else I was thinking if ppl did know her but then when sunset came she became more popular so much that wallflower was no longer noticed that would be rather personal especially to her ego
0 likesI have an idea for your next video: Cadence the bringer of destruction/fall of the crystal empire
1 likeHow old is cadence? Think about it, she has the crystal heart as her cutiemark yet the crystal empire was gone up until season 3, so she had to have been around before the crystal empire vanished. We also know that cadence was not banished along with the crystal ponies because she babysat twilight. She was an alicorn as far back as we can see and we know they age differently; so we she could be way older than we thought. Is it possible that cadence is a crystal pony & that when king Sombra turned bad Cadence is the one that asked the princesses to save the crystal empire? The other theory on the changelings cohabitating in the crystal empire also makes sense because when queen chrysalis was posing as cadence for the royal wedding Cadence seemed to be the one that already knew the most about them. (also Celestia, because she knew queen chrysalis' name before she had to be introduced.)
I would make a lot of sense if the princess of "love" earned her alicorn status (by creating a new type of magic "love is magic") in a society where love is an integral part of existing: the light and love charges the crystal heart, and the love that the changelings use. But wait! is it possible that the princess worthy deed that cadence did to become an alicorn was put the crystal heart system in place? Think about it. If the empire previously used a different system of keeping the winter at bay and it failed, then an extraordinary young unicorn who had just realized that love is a magic strong enough to keep the winter at bay. She carved a large crystal into the symbol of love and instructed the panicking ponies that this would work and to be strong for the ponies that they cared about. They could already see how the power their love fed the changelings. Cadence performs a love spell on the crystal heart turning it into a vessel for the strength of love that that the ponies had for each other and the cold wind of the north are blasted back. Cadence floats into the sky be magic not her own and vanished into another realm where she meets celestia for the first time. She gets her wings and reappears in front of the crystal ponies as an alicorn (and perhaps earning her cutiemark at the same time). The ponies celebrate and declare this young pony Cadence is worthy of becoming their leader someday. This puts king sombra's position at risk. But, he has bigger things to worry about: the crystal heart system seems to be working well but Sombra sees a problem. The changelings apatite for love is now a problem because the empire now runs off of love. If the changlings grow in numbers or if their apatite increases it will put the empire at risk. There is only one thing to do banish the changelings. (If my theory is correct: the mere presence of Cadence is the reason the crystal empire fell and why the changelings turned bad. Although chrysalis didn't seem to be hold any particular grudge against sombra when grogar brought them all together, maybe because cadence had a more direct hand in their banishment.)
After all this it would make sense why no one bothers to mention her past, she didn't even tell twilight. Why would she? Its even worse than (more embarrassing) than starlight's past. Think about it; her becoming an alicorn the symbol of leadership caused sombra's corruption (though it may not have changed the outcome for the changelings). This is an example of Starswirl's alicorn creation system causing negative results. If she had not become an alicorn she would simply have become something of a hero to the people as spike did & even more important not a threat to Sombra's position (especially if he wasn't an alicorn. This could've lead to him seeking different means to appear more powerful to the people to solidify his position, via the alicorn amulet that corrupts anyone who wears it)
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omg, he NEEDS to see this! Try copy and pasting this theory on his next video! I really like this theory!
1 likeI am bigger on the theory that cadence is the daughter that came about because of the love potion.
0 likesIt would also help explain how cadence could have been twilight’s babysitter when she was still a Philly.
As well as why her magic almost seems to be like a love potion.
But this also carries the larger implication that when a potion or spell is used on somepony, the spell or potions affect can actually carry over to their offspring almost like a genetic trait if you will.
This would also explain why flurry heart was born an Alicorn.
I think the Alicorn under the spell was Luna! She had a sister, and keep in mind, prince blueblood, if I remember correctly, is celestia's nephew, so maybe Luna gave birth to prince blueblood, who did the love spell on Cadence! CADNECE is Celestia's adoptive daughter/nice, right?
0 likesWhat if it's Cozy Glow breaking free from stone, becoming an alicorn again, and going back in time?
0 likesWait, no. That's waaay to complicated for ANY cartoon
Wasn't it confirmed in one of the comics that her mother was princess Amour? Or it's just my own headcannon? She was the ruler of the Crystal Empire and I think Sombra killed her.
0 likesHer name means love and Cadence is the princess of love. And in the first episode we meet Cadence we learn her full name: Mi Amour Cadence.
Edit: And the crystal ponies call her the crystal princess
I think it very well could be Cadence's mother even though I've never really seen or heard anything offer Hearts and Hooves Day and The Love Potion bottle wrong what a bluebird really is the descendants of Katy flurry heart Blue Bloods granddaughter
0 likeswhat did you use to do that flower peddle shower animation cycle? I am guessing blender but is there a specific tutorial that allows a seamless continuation of the cycle without rendering the whole length of the video?
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ripped it from youtube lol
0 likesI love how he makes theory's on stuff nobody pays attention too. Also what if it was princess skyla? ... Ya know. That toy back in 2010. That most people forgot about
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2014, actually. But yeah. Remember the other toy that was supposed to be Twilight's daughter with Blueblood? Weird
7 likesmaybe but seriously hasbro is just throwing princesses in our face
6 likes@SMG Productions I actually don't remember that one. Was it nyx? Or something else?
3 likes@Samantha Freeman actually there was never a toy version of Nyx. Nyx is the main character of a reallly well known mlp fanfic written way back. Like when season 3 wasn’t even out yet. Sure a lot of people must of done merch about nyx. But none of them are canon or from Hasbro.
6 likes@Ramy ooooOooh .... Damn I really need to do my research I'm slacking here
3 likes@Samantha Freeman i mean it’s Understandable 😂, mlp’s been over for almost 2 years now
1 like@Ramy still sad it's over with. Can't wait for gen 5 tho
0 likesWhat if Skyla was Cadance's mother!!? 😱 I mean the colors of both characters matches up, what if hasbro was giving us a clue/hint of who she is
3 likes@Princess Greenpaint that's the thing it was marketed as candences and shinings child but then they added flurry heart so now I'm just confused
2 likes@Samantha Freeman I think the fans thought it was Cadence and Shining's child. Tbh the colors doesn't match up, Flurry's colors match better to her parents but then again, maybe that's why they redesign Skyla to Flurry Heart. Maybe its possible that Princess Amore is related to Cadence (i never read the comics, i guess i'd be wrong) Maybe Amore is Cadence's aunt and Skyla is the sister of Amore and mother of Cadence, maybe thats connected to Cadence's cutie mark, its a heart because it represents love like her mom's past/magic or her dad's magic (the magic potion) and the heart is crystal because it represents the crystal heart like her aunt. This is a theory and i could be wrong.
2 likes@Princess Greenpaint isn't... Candences full name mi amore candenza?
1 like@Samantha Freeman Yes, maybe which explains it?? idk
1 likeEdit: Oh, I meant Princess "Amore" just amore, sorry, i forgot the names, its been a while. Let me fix that.
@Princess Greenpaint aaah I'm questioning everything
1 like@Samantha Freeman XD
2 likesProbably TRUE
0 likesthere never was an alicorn in the story. it was just 2 unicorns. but when it was written up as a fairytale story the spell used was properly written down but the story itself was sensatinalized to be about "an alicorn princess" when it was probably a unicorn princess
0 likesIf Prince blueblood is Celestia’s nephew wouldn’t that make Luna his mother?
1 likeUNLESS....there’s another sibling we don’t know about!!! 😱🤔
I'm almost confident to say there's a lot of alicorns out there but like in another dimension, hiding, or something
0 likesthere is one ruler that could have a connection to the story, and its true we've never seen her..... in the show. within the comics theres a unicorn who resembles celestia in stature and was the previous ruler of the crystal empire before the whole.... sombra thing. xD she's from the comics and her name was princess amore. she's from the comics. another potential character couldve been radiant hope who was also in the comics. thats just speculation though. idk how cannon the comics are.
0 likesThat perfectly explains why she has so many nephews and Nieces but no siblings aside from Luna
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In the serial was mentioned a fact that Luna and Tia are Cadance's aunts
2 likesYes but they don’t have a third sibling as far as we were told.
2 likesthat cant be CADECE IS CELESTIAS ADOPED NEICE but prince blueblood contains a mystry
0 likes@^star_blossom^ who is the third sibling?
0 likes@^star_blossom^ he’s a descendant of princess platinum ( from the windigos play)
0 likes@Adam Cadavre there is no sibling they’re all adopted
0 likesI had something in mind, Where is Cadance at the end??? We didn't see her anywhere in the future in the last episode, The glass stain showed Flurry Heart but nothing related to Cadence was showed in the whole episode! Tell me that!
0 likesDoesn't the Hearts and Hooves day story just mention "a princess?" Maybe whoever illustrated the book was using artistic license, and rather than depicting real individuals, they're depicting what the general population would imagine when they thought of a prince or princess. Since the most recognisable princess in the land was Celestia, of course the depicted princess would be an alicorn. It probably has nothing to do with Cadance. Probably.
0 likesI like your theory too though!😊
It's possible that a type of disease killed off the alicorn population, which would explain why they are more scarce. And only powerful unicorns and alicorns can make more alicorns (either through a spell or breeding as seen with flurry) so it's possible that disease happened when more creatures/ponies lived together, kinda like the aztecs getting killed from unknown disease. If not, then perhaps a past evil villain, more powerful then the ones we know, had destroyed the large alicorn species. Or, perhaps they gave up their power to save early equestria, the same way how the guardian of beauty gave up her youth to bring back beauty and harvest for her people.
0 likesBut as for cadence's past, I agree that the past hearts and hooves day princess is cadence's mother, as it works for the story of her being adopted by a middle class family as a abandon pegasus foul. Because it states that the prince and princess was under the trance of the love potion, and couldn't focus on their duties. Which means if they had a child, they wouldn't even care about the child, meaning that cadence could slip away unnoticed and wandered into a forest, where she was adopted.
I think it's that period of centralization that benefitted Canterlot. The train was a massive boon to Canterlot because of it's central location.
0 likesSawtooth in the description - Flurry Heart in the thumbnail, what crimes will she commit?
125 likesMe - She will commit crimes which are even beyond our understanding
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-Princess Luna 2016
1 likeIn my theory Cadence mother would be the peice we're missing because if Candence's mother is in the picture this would make sense how Cadence got her powers and mainly i mean the power of spreading love so the one in the picture is Cadence's mother.
1 likeWhen Sawtooth Waves show us the photo of the prince in the story….I was thinking if Queen Haven in MLP a new generation because she is a queen of Pegasus and the prince in the hearts and hoof story is an earth pony prince so this is like almost the same
1 likeHope this helps Sawtooth Waves 😉😄
The secret Alicorn is cadence mother and it also fits the history because after that they had foal and as they were not doing their royal duties and weren't doing any of their responsibilities so theyhad left her somewhere and that's how cadence got adopted by earthponies
0 likesSooo... what if the "unknown prince" was actually Sombra? If you kind of consider the comics timeline, he has an established relationship with another mare, Radiant Hope. I do know she was a powerful magic user, so it's possible she became an alicorn (barring some of the comic's events, of course)! Or maybe since the comics and the show have their own separate storylines, Radiant Hope became a princess on her own, was at some point given reign over the Crystal Empire, and THEN our dark horse Sombra comes along and gives the poor mare a love potion as an attempt to control the Crystal Empire--thus kicking off the events you described in your theory. I don't remember the Crystal ponies ever giving a real explanation behind Sombra's power, but I could be totally wrong (I should probably prepare to eat hoof, just in case 😁). What do you guys think?
0 likes"flurry heart in the thumbnail, what crimes will she commit?" FSHDHJSJF I-
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Maybe a destruction of all Equestria? XD
4 likesapparently existing is a crime she had done xD
3 likesDestroying the world 👌
2 likesDestroying the world
2 likesIf you could met the maker of the My Little Pony Friendship is Magic series at a comic-con, the you could ask her a lot of questions about the unknown alicorn princess in the Hearts and Hooves day story.
0 likesI think that mysterious Alicorn might be Candice's past like that could be her grandmother or her great grandmother or might be a an unknown Alicorn princess to the world. By the way love your theories.
0 likesWell, that would explain Cadence's past a little bit more because we have some side videos that say she was abandoned and adopted by Earth ponies. So, if she was the result of that love potion then they would have abandoned her and the earth ponies would have taken her in. But in your video where you explain where Flurryheart was born an allicorn, you say that because she is the allicorn of love for one's caretaker, she was born an allicorn. Since it was a love potion, Cadence probably wouldn't have a purpose or, just because it was a love potion, she didn't end up being born an allicorn.
0 likesHere's a dark theory. The princess in the story had been an alicorn and ruled the crystal ponies and had been Cadance's mom, evidence: a crystal poney instantly called their princess as she swoops in during the crisis in the Crystal Empire episode, moms and daughters can look alike. However, as the story goes the love poison made her neglect her duties, to a point where she was killed and the Crystal Empire fell to King Sombra and its disappearance, only Cadance made it out.
0 likesLove this idea, not because I consider it particularly more likely than other ideas, but because it provides lots of interesting ideas for stories when Equestria was younger. (I've always been very interested in fanfiction for additional pony content, especially when the writers are able to flesh out the world with their own ideas.)
3 likesfrom the evidence of what we seen in small moments to comics in mlp many creatures were once able to use magic before the majority became pony controlled I what mean is we have seen magic artifacts from non pony races and monsters having their own innate magic power so could ancient equestria be more untamed with magic and by ancient I mean the rule before celestia and luna's age
0 likesi know this is superrr late but hear me out (if you see this)
1 likewhat if the princess was past chrysalis?
it would explain how she knew about cadence (cadence still being the daughter of this partnership) and her hatred for love after a long time (also her disregard of suitors in the this day aria song) she's also presented with a horn and wings and could maybe explain why celestia was hesitant to fight her and why luna ran (they knew who she was)
it could also explain the changling magic ( if chrysalis was tainted by a love spell and then her suitor eventually died of old age becuase as an alicorn she would live longer than him, a curse may have been put into effect as a side effect of the potion which obviously would not be in the book as nopony knew about it (being ponies, if they used this spell both ponies would die at the same time hence the curse not happening for them)
this could make it possible for her to suck up others love as compensation for her love being gone (unrequited)
her ability to shapeshift may just be what caused her to become an alicorn in the first place (by creating new magic) and then that same magic was passed to her subjects
and also, what if the suitor was sombra?? he's shown as a unicorn and a powerful one at that that denies love (he tries to take the crystal heart) maybe he came back as who he is today as part of the same curse chrysalis had? it could fit into your sombra alicorn theory as he may use chrysalis to get power by making her love him.
maybe he didnt die but when he brought down the empire when he disappeared that could also have triggered the curse?
i dunno, just the first thought that came to mind :)
I thought Cadence was a pegasus first and turned alicorn through that thing she did with the locket or whatever it was with the angry old lady.
1 likeBut hasn't the show outright stated that there are only 5 alicorns? That if they get defeated, Flurry Heart would be the only hope?
0 likesHere's my standing right now..
0 likesCadence was born to the two ponies, but I believe that the Princess was the ruler of the Crystal Empire (hints at Cadences cutiemark). Think about it, how would a dark unicorn (King Sombra) takes over the empire by himself? Unless... there was something going on that prevented the rulers from doing their duties? You can probably see where im going with this, so maybe when the Prince gave the Princess the love potion and both fell in love with each other they had a baby and couldnt do their jobs cause they were souly focused on each other. Then King Sombra saw this as an oppurtunity to take over the empire he killed the rulers and enslaved the crystal ponies and kept Cadence hostage. Then finally Princess Celestia and Luna came to save the empire from Sombra and saved Cadence as well then the kingdom vanished. It makes sense since the love story talked about the fall of their kingdom.
Cadence could very well be the princess from the book and the prince looks a lot like shining armour.
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It's not either of them. The "alicorn princess" in the story isn't even an alicorn. Her having wings was an animation error.
0 likesThe minor royal thing works, I mean the different races leaders, ie queen novo, prince Rutherford, dragon lord ember, it makes sense to have pony royals as well like king sombra/king colbolt & possibly queen chrysalis/before hand…, maybe even alternate dimensions, like where king colbolt was from, but being a massive impact like celestia raising the sun & Luna, night, it is shown to have them as the bigger royals here, heck we might have our own mlp sailor scouts, with mares like Venus or Jupiter, but my point is minor royals may have given bigger impacts on equestria, like who are lunas and celestias parents?, they could have been minor too.
0 likesThere is a chance that Princess Amore (who people keep saying is the former Ruler of the Crystal Empire, don't know how accurate that is...) was the one who fell victim to the Love Poison. Perhaps Sombra (with no Royal Heritage or Title at the time) tricked a lovestruck Earth Pony into giving her the Love Poison, and in their newfound ignorance Sombra could steal the Crystal Heart and take over the Kingdom.
0 likesAn unforeseen consequence however, could have been the birth of Cadence - whether as a Pegasus or Alicorn - and was sent away from the Kingdom when it was doomed to fall.
If not already an Alicorn, Cadence probably still earned her way into Alicornhood similar to the non-canon stories that have been printed IRL, as she was clearly destined to rule the Crystal Empire when it returned, and the concentrated Love Poison Magic would have been infused into Baby Cadence - like how different substances ingested by pregnant women can cause side-effects in the development of their baby.
Personally I take it as a fairy tale or exaggeration. Perhaps the “alicorn” is really a powerful unicorn
43 likesIn the episode where flurry heart was born, celestia and Luna stated no ones ever been BORN an alicorn in equestria that they know of so . So maybe Cadance was the unicorn daughter of the ruling pony of the Crystal empire . Hence ‘Crystal princess’ .and as she grew older she was put incharge . Then as you said;the prince (most probably comming from smaller region) crushed on her, giving her the potion. This caused her to abandon her royal duties, causing the rise of Sombra . This where the part comes in where you said Celestia rescues her. Celestia takes care of her, as her niece so I’m assuming Celestia had a good relationship and knew the rulers of the Crystal empire(aka candance’s parents). This is where again add your idea from one of your previous videos where you said Starswirl set that alarm of turning ponies with rulling potential into allicorns (she dose something to set the alarm off and fullfiling her destiny).So then she took care of Twilight (to help recover herself) and eventually married Shining. So Celestia felt she had recovered enough to rule again. Therefore sending her back there to the empire . And we know the rest .
0 likesI hope you see this :)
you were right about natural and artaficial alicorns but in a wrong direction for example cozy glow was an artaficial alicorn becose when magic was taken away from her she become a pega*sus* and when magic was taken away from luna celestia (season 4) they were still alicorns
1 likeOk but am I crazy or were there other alicorns sitting underneath celestia, twilight, and Luna in that one episode where spike tries to light the fire at some sort of Olympic games at the crystal heart empire but fails??
0 likesThere was a pony there that reallly resembled twilight too
Maybe they could be Princess Goldlily or Sterling, remember them from the toys?
0 likesPS. love how it ended. XD
What if, the crystal princess that was shouted out in the season 3 finale was this Princess? Would make sense why the crystal heart, is, well, a heart. And the resemblance to her mother could explain why the crowd pony called cadance the "crystal princess"
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The Crystal Princess shouted out in S3 is Princess Amore from the comics, "a very distant relative" of Cadance according to Amy Keating Rogers. Only problem is this princess is a crystal unicorn.
2 likesOMG I TOTALLY AGREE
1 likeHe still keeps the fandom fire burning
3 likesI feel like the mystery alicorn princess is queen chrysalis, I mean imagine.. imagine if queen chrysalis once shared love with the prince in a different form, she was probably deeply in love and gave all her love to that prince, but once the prince realized that he was in love with moldy cheese he was disgusted? Which is why queen chrysalis steals love to grief over her broken heart?
0 likesIt could have been Princess Sterling or Princess Gold Lily
1 likeI think the alicorn was Cadences mom ,cause the spell cast on the alicorn was like the spell cast by Cadence .she must be long gone so she is forgotten
0 likesWell what if the alicorn in the story was cadence’s mom who was also Celestia and Luna’s sister. And as a consequence of the spell gone wrong in order to free their sister they had to strip her of her alicorn power leaving her a normal unicorn. But as a result of the spell, this unknown sister had a descendent(s) who later branched off on having both Cadence and Blueblood. So they are technically related as well as niece and nephew but with a few added greats to it. So what happened to the unknown sister? She died ages ago since she became mortal
1 likeBut the birth of an alicorn was never seen before Flurry Heart.🤭
0 likeson an unrelated note, the theorist OC ponies are literally their own fandom at this point and anytime there's a little teaser for them like at the end of this vid, I get SO excited
0 likesI love your work!
0 likeshear me out peeps, I am a little late to the show but I have an alicorn Idea. Like you theorized with each princess representing a bond that holds society, I think that is still true. older siblinghood, younger siblinghood, friendship, love, and parental love all have their own tier of magic. It is proven the magic of love an friendship are two of the most powerful weapons in equestria. maybe siblinghood and parental love are the same. maybe luna and celestia became alicorns after realizing the teamwork (raising the sun and moon) of sister hood. flurry was born one because of her instincts. maybe those types of magic are on a tier stronger than any magic in the whole mlp universe. maybe it takes that magic to be an alicorn. grogar's bell held the magic of a time before those were realized. it held captive the magic of those relationships. maybe it takes that much magic to become an alicorn. your starswirled invented alicorns still works. flurry just was transformed in the womb. coxy glow didn't have one because she used stolen magic. starswirled made the alicorns because of the magic they had through understanding, and his spell lasted atfer limbo. he did not understand how luna and celestia had the power. he just knew he did. his spell detected the power of cozy and made her one too. celestia wasn;t there to greet her because she didn't know what was happening somehow. that is my theory.
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twilight didn't invent the magic of friendship. she understood it. of course they all have their duties, celestia and luna raise the sun and moon, twilight rules equestria and used to solve friendship problems. cadence and maybe oneday flurry rule the crystal empire. it makes sense. twilight was first to understand friendship because she knew it was like with no friends. cadence is love because of her natural love for everyone. celestia is older sibling because of her natural leadership and motherly instinct. luna is younger because of her willingness to follow (eventually). flurry is child because of her naturally greater love for her parents (courtesy of the crystal heart)
1 likeWhat if...
0 likesPrince Blueblood was the prince in the story and Cadence was the princess. Sense Cadence is adopted it wouldn't be weird.
Maybe for training for them, Celestia game them a tiny kinda to rule over and BlueBlood wanted a relationship with cadence that she didn't notice or care about.
I think that the story was just a story, that they made them for young fillies who dream big and want a prince Charming. The alicorn in the story could be to contrast importance to the story,
0 likesMaybe Mystery Mare was a third sister of the stars. Wouldn't be the first time the topic was brought up in one of your videos.
0 likesThe Netflix description of A Canterlot Wedding confirms that Cadence is Celestia's niece
5 likesWhat if the Prince died and the princess of love lost all her love with his death. She then took on a new name, Chrisalis, and raised a army against Equestria. Why? She feels that her love was stolen by ponies, and wants to take it all back.
0 likesMaybe the Alicorn is caidence mother and caidence broke the love spell with reall love instead of an spell that forced the love. It could explain her cutie Mark and her power.
0 likesCough Chrysalis cough
0 likeslet me explain:
like you said: "Chrysalis and the changeling could have been in the crystal empire before it FELL("the kingdom fell as a result")" but what if the queen wasn't married to Sombra but to a king before Sombra. They were so in love with each other that they couldn't of notice Sombra. Sombra might have been in love with Chrysalis...
Pure Sombra: asked to take over the kingdom saying the citizens were being neglected and deserved better took over and got corrupted because he couldn't stand to see everyone with so much love while his only love was pining over the former king and destroyed an already week kingdom
Already Curupt Sombra: asks for kingdom doesn't marry keeping the old queen as queen even tho she had no control (highly unlikely)
Cunning Curupt Sombra: asks for a marriage of the queen and the kingdom and destroys the week kingdom because chrysalis wants to be with her lover.
the spell on chrysalis could have broken after the king had died but it also can leave chrysalis bitter especially if the two sisters already had warned her and took her baby (cadence) away because of neglect, she could be shameful and would not ask the two sisters for help
this bitterness from when the changelings changed and let friendship in might have opened up an old wound from her past because she might have felt betrayed if she saw Sombra as a friend. after her hive changed without her into something that what she saw made her week in the past might have made her feel lonely and of course bitter and saw it as her hive hating her and rejecting her by changing into something she saw as weak and vulnerable.
Okie I think I'm finished.
I love that theories and videos like this still exist even with the series being over <3
6 likesYou know the principle in the friendship games? Can you make a video trying to talk about her. The princesses of equestria (Luna and celestia) were principle and vice priciple of their own school and Cadence was in a lower position in the other school. Yes i haven't watched it in a while so I don't really remember everything. But i'm just so curious of who she is in the pony world. If maybe, she's a secret Alicorn!
0 likesit would also explain why flurry is an alicorn. if that mare was cadence mother, cadence was born as an alicorn too. which kinda explains why flurry heart is an alicorn, maybe genetic :)
0 likesMaybe that alicorn in the story was the original princess of love but when Cadence got older, she took the title and now she’s the princess of love
0 likesI just started thinking about this while watching this seeing as we don’t know what that princess was the princess of
So maybe if that princess is cadences mother, maybe her mother taught her love spells
Do you have any theorie about how Crysalys (I don’t know how to spell😂) can be a Alicorn?
0 likesThis theory is not related to the video, but what if Sunny was Lauster Dawn's daughter? Sunny's color palete looks similar to Lauster's and this explains why Sunny admirs the mane 6 and have a poster of princess celestia. Sure Lauster is a unicorn and Sunny is an earth pony, but it does makes sense... doesn't it??
0 likesSo, just a thought here but..... about 5 years ago Sawtooth made a theory that maybe chrysalis had once been an alicorn or at the very least the ruler of something other than just the hive, now we have a theory that the mare in the hearts and hooves day story was an alicorn we haven't met. Well.... what if chrysalis had been and allicorn and the prince that used a love potion on her was a prince version of King Sombra. Maybe he wasn't really in love with her, but was more so in love with her power. He could have made the alicorn amulet by stealing chrysalis's magic using dark majic. This would not only take her majic, but the heart break could have lead to her need to feast on love. There may have been a group of changlings around the same time that needed a new queen. They could have then seen her already part way to being like them and changed her into a changling. Then over time she would have ran the hive and pushed her hatred for love and ponies onto the other changelings, both of which would be founded from Sombra having broken her heart. Then we have the events of the mlp series wherein she would have seen her home changed by the very kind that she had once abandoned after what Sombra did. That very may well bring even more to the story than her just being an average changeling that was randomly chosen to be queen. This past would also explain how she would have the knowledge necessary to have been able to make all of those protections around the hive and all of those majic blocking bariers. One final deeper tie is that Celestia and Luna may have been related to her and encouraged her to mary the aforementioned prince version of Sombra. This could also make her Cadance's mother, and it is possible that Celestia took in her then orphaned neice as Sombra would have ignored her as he descended further into the awful tyrant he became, and her mother would have been mia. So she was exposed to love from her aunts which is how she knew how powerful that emotion was. Plus with this theory Sombra could havé been from a weaker kingdom, and Crysalis could have been the princess of the crystal empire. After all the name crysalis is very close in speel in to the word crystal. You just add a t and drop the ending is. And it is clear that names of rulers and others tend to tie in to who they are, were, or are to be. Then following this theory, putting chrysalis in stone for the 1000 years actually makes sense. Since when she eventually breaks out or is freed it would be Twilight in charge and not Luma and Celestia. Which is good since cyrsialis wouldn't have any direct anger rooted with twighlight. Then you bring in Sawtooth's recent theory on how to reform chrysalis, and once reformed she may actually return to her original pony form from before she was an alicorn, supposed to turning into a new changling form. And if the alicorn amulet could he purified and the majic given back to chrysalis after she is fully reformed, she could work things out with retired lunar and celestia in her original alicorn form and tell them what all happened. After which she could meet her daught and grandaughter and be allowed a title of queen as a cutesy title being the true former queen of two different groups and being the mother of the princess currently ruling over the crystal empire.
0 likesAnd there you have my long-winded theory/head canon of how cyrsalis goes full circle, good to bad to good.
Okay , not related to the video, but i wanna explain why alicorns always have wavy hair that is kinda transparent.
0 likesYou see, Celestia and Luna have wavy hair but Cadance doesn't. Celestia and Luna are the main rulers so they pocess a lot of power
But cadance is more of a assistant alicorn. So...that means Celestia and Luna have wavy hair representing their power
But cadance doesn't have wavy hair because she has less power than the rulers
Same for twilight, for as long celestia and luna were there, Twilight had less power and didn't have wavy hair. But the last episode means that twilight gained all the power Celestia and Luna had. Thats why she had the long body and wavy hair!
Maybe the tall pony Fleur de Lis was also a descendant of these alicorn royal families.
0 likesThat’s rly sad for cadence as she would’ve felt slightly unwanted as she was an accident..
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An accident how??
0 likes@Lehla Quartz since the theory states that the two ponies were Cadence’s Parents, and that she was a result of them. but since they were under the control of the love potion, she wasn’t really intended
8 likesShe might’ve also been neglected by her parents who were just too busy staring into each other’s eyes, so maybe her mother was stripped of her wings/horn and Cadence was put up for adoption. There she would actually be cared for. Maybe Celestia and Luna had adopted Cadence’s parents (as adopted siblings, doesn’t mean they became alicorns tho) which would make Cadence their adopted niece. Maybe Blueblood is a descendant of Cadence’s adoptive parents which would also explain how he’s Celestia and Luna’s nephew.
8 likes@Pastel Nut I’m not sure if celestia and Luna adopted her parents but maybe her parents didn’t want her as she wasn’t intended maybe Celestia and Luna adopted her only? Not sure tho
4 likesAnd Candace's own mother crashed her wedding😢
0 likesWait how? Chrysalis isn’t her mother :/?
1 like@Vaishali2 How do you know?
0 likes@Vaishali2 Think, alicorns live longer than ponys, so what if when the Prince died, he took the love she had for him with him, and now has to take love because of a backfire in the spell.
0 likesUm..maybe but there isn’t any evidence I see to back that up
1 like@Vaishali2 Maybe, but this is what I believe.
0 likesMaybe somthing or someone caused a large disappearance of all alicorns
1 likeMaybe they destroyed the knowledge of how to become an alicorn to make sure that being an alicorn was seen as royalty
Maybe to get celestia and Luna into power
I really hope we get some answers in G5, since it is a continuation of the same world.
0 likesI think Cadance is celestias neice but I don’t know who is that princess in the book. A forever mystery.
2 likesIf that alicorn was Cadence’s mother, and Cadence had Flurry Heart with Shining Armor, how come Cadence wasn’t born with wings? Or was she..
0 likesThis is related to the video but I remember you talking about how long a moon is in Mlp. And I believe I figured it out.
0 likesSo in the Apple Family Reunion, Granny Smith says that the reunion takes place every 100 moons, and since the days would probably be different in Mlp, since it’s a whole different universe we know that it wouldn’t be our normal 100 months (or moons)
Anyways, during the part where they’re looking through the book we’ll see That at the last reunion AppleJack was a foal. And from what we can guess (and from what Google says) we can say that Apple Jack is in her late twenties, so I believe that a 100 moons is about 30 years
If the mysterious alicorn IS Cadence mother, and Cadence is Celestias niece, doesn’t that mean that the mysterious alicorn is Celestias sister?
0 likesIt's mentioned in the Show that flurry heart was the FIRST born alicorn so I don't understand how cadence would be born one... wouldn't Luna and Celestia have heard of it?
0 likesI still think that the woman is cadences mother. Possibly the reason why we haven’t meet her is because in the book it says due to the love potion the kingdom fell down. Maybe cadences mother as well as her father didn’t survive the down fall but cadence did.
2 likesBut the sad part is these theory’s can’t really become confirmed due to the end of the series.
19 likesAnd sawtooth you should react to the gen 5 trailer :)
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There's a trailer?
1 like@Nada Colić yep
1 likeHere: https://youtu.be/U3dgD03nY5E
This theory is probably true. Why? Because in the crystalling episode the images on the vase used to explain what exactly the crystalling was depicted a mother alicorn. (If I remember correctly.) This could easily have been Cadence's mom. While we do know Flurry is the first naturally born alicorn, that doesn't mean that Cadence couldn't be the unicorn daughter of a disgraced alicorn princess (possibly needing to earn her wings to attone for her mother's mistake? In the hearts and hooves story we're told the kingdom fell. We know the crystal empire fell to Sombra. Maybe that's how? Just a thought.
0 likesWhat if instead of them dieing or losing there magic… what if they went into hiding? Or left to another land? Just a thought
0 likesI doubt that Cadence is the princess from the myth or that the princess is her mother. I posted another comment explaining why I think Cadence is young. The myth is old. It was said multiple times that no alicorn had ever been born before, so Cadence wouldn't have been an alicorn just because her mother was one if her mother was the pony from the myth. Also, I think Celestia would try to avoid making the child of a princess an alicorn. It would likely be close enough to when she made the mother an alicorn that ponies would remember that she became an alicorn. Making her daughter a princess could be fine as long as she had no real power like Prince Blueblood, but making her an alicorn could be seen as giving a lot of power to one family and that could cause some outrage or at least frustration among ponies. There is still the possibility that Cadence became an alicorn and her mother was one, but I find it unlikely.
0 likesWhat about the crystal empire? When Cadence toke over after it reappeared it clearly became a client state of equestria but how can an empire be a client of a kingdom?
0 likesAhhhhhh shoot but what about "the birth or an alicorn is something we've never seen" thing. This while royal thing has so many ways it could go. I hope there'll be more vids on it!
0 likesWhat if it the future Flurry heart found a way to remake starswerlls time spell. She could've gone back in time and became friends with the prince and he could've gained a crush on her, infuaniceing him to create the love spell. And once the spell was used there was no turning back untill some pony(Twilight) found the spell plan flurry left behind. and having to go after her and save her.
1 likeI thought that perhaps the unknown princess was queen chrysalis? Maybe before she became a changeling? And maybe her becoming a changeling was a result of the prince giving her the live potion
1 likeOkay, just checked the episode. No indication other than the illustration in the book that it was an ALICORN princess. And by Prince Blueblood's example, you do not need to be larsoned to be a prince/princess. Maybe the prince & princess in the story were both non-alicorn types, but when the book was written, the author/illustrator took liberties and drew the princess as an Alicorn.
0 likesIt's either that, or a whole ass-ton of alicorns got killed off, and MLP:FiM just hit George R. R. Martin levels of dark lol
I clicked faster then Celestia could say "CAKE"
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Same
2 likesSame TwT
3 likesYES
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1 likeDo u wanna collab lex ?
2 likes@ayati inspire wha-
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1 likeI would've too, but im a patron so I got the video early
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0 likesdamn~she really got that CAKE
0 likesI think that the Hearts and Hooves Day story might never have even happened. Just a story, not something that actually happened.
1 likeI'm just waiting on you to cover in the first episode a red apple is pit in twilghts mouth but she spits out a green apple it's when shes at sweet apple acres for the summer sun celebration
1 likeYou know, that male pony kinda looks like doughnut Joe and also maybe the alicorn he had a crush on was a changlling (I don’t know how to spell changelling). Changellings can turn into anything you know.
0 likesAll right I’m back. So I know this is from a different video but when you said there might be other alicorns that we don’t know of. YOU WERE RIGHT!!! In my book called “the journal of the two sisters” Luna says “ the alicorns thought it was important” so ya.
0 likesLuna got younger because she got her short hair when she breaks out of Nightmare moon. The same short hair that she had when she was a Filly. But we see her wavy hair when she defeats Discord so how did she get younger?!
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0 likesI can actually talk about this. I see her magical hair situation as less of an Age thing and more of a Magic thing. When an alicorn's magic is low their hair tends to become less magical and wavy. That's my headcanon anyway.
13 likesIkrr
0 likes@OttoFilms your not even a mlp fan bruhhh remeber twilight drank the time travel potion and then Luna and celestia destroyed discord before she was nightmare moon and when she was defeated she was young and had short hair
0 likes@KiraTheFox 💭- restarting soon! i am too an mlp fan you cozy glow
0 likesOk so i think this might be it:
4 likesIf Luna becmae Mightmare Moon, then she has a lot of magic in her body, like Celestia. So if the mane six defeated Nightmare Moon, the magic could have drained out of her body because the mane six used the rainbow vortex thingie to defeat Nightmare Moon.. but I was thinking, did the magic went to the moon or what? That's all i can think of. Since she has magic in her whole body, and her hair too. So if the magic was drained out of the body she would get younger right?
And when she defeates Discord, Discord's magic was drained out too, but i still dont know where it went, but it could went to the Alicorns' body, like Luna. So if there are some magic in her body then her hair but be wavy and she would become older.
Also did you remember the pieces when the mane six defeated Nightmare Moon? That could be fell out of the hair, and it also could be the hair's magic, like a shell of a snail.
That's all i could tell tho..
We talked about this Put ur comment in a video about Luna
0 likes@Tophs Right Foot can you send me the link? Thank you
0 likes@Midnight the Baby-Eyes Cat😺 What link?
0 likes@Tophs Right Foot you said to put my comment in a video about Luna
0 likesAnd that video link ?
@Midnight the Baby-Eyes Cat😺 https://youtu.be/AVPnxm6Xqfw
0 likesI wrote that too, you know.
0 likes@Tophs Right Foot thank you so much
0 likes@Anika Devrani oooh
0 likes@Midnight the Baby-Eyes Cat😺 No problem!
0 likesHere's my theory:
0 likesHer Season 1 appearance is how she looks "naturally," how she looked before she officially became Princess of the Night. When she officially took on this role, however, the special, powerful magic she was endowed with and which enabled her to control the night sky also came with a massive makeover.
When she was banished, this magic she had did not go with her, having been taken from her (presumably by the Elements) and instead given to Celestia, in order to keep her from doing harm even in her exile. When she returned and was defeated by the Mane Six, she did not receive this power back right away, and instead reverted back to her "basic" form. It wasn't until she had fully reconciled with Celestia (and by extension Equestria) that she could be entrusted with her power once again and be reinstated as Princess of the Night, and thus get her other appearance back.
...If that makes sense 😅
@OrchidEqvinox76 I love your theory!
0 likesI think that when Luna was a filly her hair was short, then time passed and her hair became wavy. When she got defeated by the mane 6, she lost all the magic she had including the magic that made her have wavy hair when she got older which led to her looking young. I know my theory doesn't make any sense ;-;
0 likesC was an alicorn when she used to take care of T S so she may have been royalty and she must have been the child of the couple.
0 likesShe may be related to the royal sisters like an aunt or something maybe even a hidden sister
1 likeMaybe the time that the kingdom failed because of that love spell is what give sombra the chance to take over the cristal empire
0 likessombra did want power so mabey if he took the other alicorns and then use the memory stone to make others forget them then by the time anyone figured anything out he could have taken what he wanted from them (immortality and magic as he does have a above avarage ammount of magic and lived a long time). and after that if celestia figured it out then mabey she took the others familys in as hers out of guilt? would explane why they arent mentiond as anything pointing to who they were is likely long gone ornow hidden due to the horror of being able to have your family forgoten and not knowing it.
0 likesI had a hunch about it being her mother, it’s interesting to see others thought this was possible too
4 likesIf there is already a princess of Day/Sun, princess of Night/Moon, princess of Love/Family and the princess of Friendship... shouldn’t we have a princess of Nature or something like? Or maybe the princess of Magic or something...
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there's no need for a princess of nature as there's already pegasi, earth ponies and unicorns caring for nature
0 likesWhatever it it. I accept Sawtooth as an Alicorn.
0 likesI guess the Alicorn in the story is Cadence's mother?
HEYY!!! I rewatched the episode and when sweetie bell was explaining what happened with the princess she said “there’s something here about a dragon...... kingdom falling...... CHAOS REIGNING”
0 likesmaybe cadence was around as a young princess since discord took over ??
The princess in the story could also be Chrysalis, and after her prince died, (since alicorns age slower???) she became hateful as a backfire of the potion, which is why she is hateful and scared of love now
0 likesCadence was born as a pegasus. Also for the Crystal Empire from my little pony books, I think there was a ruler that really looks a lot like Cadence but some people says she is not her mother before Sombra became evil & took over the empire. Sombra also likes a crystal pony named Hope.
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Finally someone said it thank you sawtooth does have great theories but clearly he never stop to acutely look up Cadence history
2 likes@Fantasy-Artist yeah. i think he didn't see my comment when i mention she was born as a pegagus
1 likeIm torn on this one because I low-key believe cadence is the alicorn princess from the hearts and hooves story. Primary because it was confirmed that the princess adopted her as their niece. Which leads me to believe one of the two princesses ( probably celesta ) broke the spell and helped her get to the place she is now and find real love.
0 likesAt the same time it could be her mother. All though it’s left a mystery of who her mother is ,as cadence is a mystery herself. The first part of her name is Mi Amor translates to my love. Just as Celesta guided twilight she guided cadence in a different way. Once twilight met the princess she got her cutie mark. Maybe it worked the same way. It is said that cadence got her wings after confronting Princess platinum after stealing the magic from the other ponies she used what little she had and that’s when she became an alicorn.
I love your videos and I want to become like you your theories are awesome I hope I can be as good as you
0 likesBTW I had a theory maybe the alicorn in the thingy knew about alicorns being associated with royalty and just wanted to live a normal life. They could be one of those ponies who you always see wearing clothes in the background to hide their wings so they can be normal and not royal.
Perfect for my name Maria I think she's the new alcorn from the movie but not sunny I'm talking about the other alicorn
1 likeOne thing, then why would flurry be beyond Celestia and Luna’s understanding if cadence born to an alicorn mother was an alicorn, also would what happened in the Crystal heart spell not have happened? As she’s shown as a Pegasus there
0 likesSo what I'm hearing from this is that all the "animation errors" we see are actually real alicorns that for some reason have left their royal status behind them to live normal lives.
5 likesThe Alcorn in the story is one we don’t know of.But cadence might have freed them though.
0 likesIn the crystalling pt.2 (or 1) spike comes into the room with this sort of vase showing the history of the crystalling, there were some drawings there that had a few unicorns and pegasi, so maybe one of those pegasi or unicorn was that princess! After all its not told in what part of Equestria it was! Maybe when one of those ponies turned into princesses (so they turned into alicorns) went to Canterlot for some sort of royal event ,THAT prince that made the love poison liked her!!
0 likeswhat if king sombra used the alicorn amulet to steal all the lesser royals' alicorn magic?
1 likeDid u read the Crystal siege comic? There was another alicorn: princess Amore mentioned. She was shattered by Sombra, so maybe thats why we never heard of that.
0 likesokay here me out. daybreak got rid of all the other alicorns. she has the influence to get rid of the past say she's the only alicorn (ponies forgot here sister). tia also said I will never become you again meaning she did at some point. bit of a stretch but I like the idea of it.
0 likesCould you do one on Prince Blueblood because it’s always been a mystery to me he is Princess Celestia and princess Luna’s nephew but who are his parents?
0 likesno. See, the alicorn is Queen Chrysalis. I didn't watch the video yet so you may have said this.
0 likesLove is the thing that brought her down. She used to rule her kingdom of changelings as the bug creatures we know and love today. Once the potion was used, she was trapped in love.
and now she can only feed off of the love of others...
It would make sense. Literally all the other villains got backstories. Tirek got his, Discord had his, Starlight got hers.
I believe that we also got Chrysalis's backstory. But in a nonchalant, foreshadowing way.
This is your answer. This is the truth.
Since he is a changeling he can easily morfe into the winner of the alicorn raffle.
0 likesThe birth of an alicorn is something Equestria has never seen
0 likesI don't know but one thing's for sure I definitely want to see a male alicorn. There are zero. I want one. Please Hasbro, please.
0 likesShe reminds me of principal cinch- because do you know how princesses, Luna and celestie are principals??
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Can you do a video on the stain glass of the student six? My imagination has not gone very far.
0 likesClicked so fast I missed Rainbow Dashs' sonic rainbow..
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0 likesSo, theory request please! If Blueblood is Celestias nephew, who are his parents?
0 likesAnother question is: Why did Equestria make an event, that destroyed the kingdoms of two rulers, a holiday?
0 likesHeres a theory:
0 likesWhat if the princess from the story used to rule the crystal empire? The prince from another kingdom fell in love with her and made the love potion. The potion resulted in Cadance, who was destined to rule. But her parents were so distracted in love, Sombra took over the empire. The kingdom fell, and Sombra killed her parents. Celestia saw the state of the empire but could only save one thing, Cadance. She tokk her in as her niece, and the rest is history. Maybe somepony remembered Cadance, which is why they yelled, “Behold the crystal princess!“ When she saved the heart.
I think that the alicorn from the Hearts & Hoofs day story isn't Cadance but rather her mother,somepony we know very little about like The lost Princess Amore.It is likely that Princess Amore was Cadance's mother and Cadance was born after the "Unnamed Prince" gave that potion to Princess Amore that's why she inherited those love powers from the potion,that explains the similarity between the love potion and Cadance's spell.The fallen kindom in that story must have been the Crystal Empire.One reason why is that when "Spike was falling down with the Crystal heart & Cadance flew majestically and grabbed the heart & Spike,one Crystal pony shouted out 'There's the Crystal princess (Sorry i don't remember the exact dialogue) which means there was or must have been a Crystal princess before Cadance who was also an Alicorn,most likely Princess Amore as she fits the description perfectly and as Cadance being her daughter she was the heir to the throne and the title of the Crystal princess!Another reason is Cadence's cutie mark,if we have a closer look,we see the Crystal heart as her Cutie mark and we know that the Crystal heart is linked or connected to Cadance.I think that her if her mother a.k.a Princess Amore was the Crystal princess,then that would mean she was also connected to the Crystal heart like Cadance is &Cadance might have inherited this connection from her mother,in simple words this "connection" to the Crystal heart is passed on down from one Crystal princess to the next Princess or heir and then the next one and so on and on.....which means Princess Amore was Cadance's mother and the previous Crystal princess.
0 likesThe " fallen empire" must have "fallen" when Sombra took over and invaded the empire since Princess Amore was too busy in love with that "Unnamed Prince' to protect the Crystal heart and thus the empire "fell' and the Crystal ponies were enslaved by Sombra.Cadance must've been rescued by Princess Celestia or she must've escaped the empire somehow and then Princess Celestia found Cadance and adopted Cadance as her niece.Princess Amore might have died or captured and so must have the "Unnamed Prince".Celestia and Luna might have tried to save them maybe but it was too late.There first priority must've been to rescue Cadance as she was the next Crystal princess and that she was connected to the Crystal heart through her cutie mark and her righful position as the new Crystal princess.Princess Amore must've been too occupied by the love potion that she wasn't capable of ruling anymore or that the potion had some severe and permanent consequences.(And after that the Crystal empire vanished and Sombra captured in North artic snow of Equestria.Cadance would have babysitted Twilight when she was just a filly studying in Celestia's Magic school for gifted Unicorns.Then later Cadance married Shining armor and some time later returned to the Crystal empire when it reappeared after a 1000 years getting her rightful position as the Crystal princess and then stopping Sombra and fullfilling her destiny).And the rest is history ( This other part in the brackets as well.) So how did you guys like my theory,do tell me and plz don't hate me or anything.Whoever that alicorn Princess might be,it is likely she is long gone and if my theory is correct and she IS Princess Amore and Princess Amore is Cadance's mother and the previous Crystal princess then that certainly explains alot!
The bewitching bell might have something to do with the theory. Perhaps Grogar’s victims were members of royalty hence why Celestia and Lu a are the only two.
6 likesIn other words the former Alicorn princesses died before they got their magic back.
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I was thinking they might have given up their power to Celestia and Luna myself
1 like@revans 156 maybe but still... we still have no idea how many became Grogar’s victims and an Alicorn only got a longer lifespan, they could’ve been killed.
1 likeI think the mysterious alicorn princes could have been Cadence’s ancestor. And I think she disappeared with the Crystal Empire. (Or before the Crystal empire). I think she was the ruler of the empire at some point. I think this because in the episode, when the Crystal Empire returns, at the end the crystal ponies recognize Cadence as the Crystal Princess (or something like that). So I think these 3 things (Crystall Princess, Mysterious Alicorn, Cadence) is connected somehow.
0 likesYou should analyze Cozy Glows cutie mark.
0 likesOkay hear me out: maybe if the alicorn in the story is Cadence’s mother, maybe Cadence was born an alicorn. (I don’t think it says otherwise) and maybe that’s why Flurry was also born an alicorn.
0 likeswhat if that unknown alicorn was the mystery identity of Chysalis?
0 likesI think that alicorn in the story is Chrysalis a lobg forgotten sister of luna and celestia.
31 likesIn the madness of love she become a changelin and try to take over equesrtia.
But like Nightmare moon she was defeated and she became only a story for hearts and hooves day.
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Chrysalis was actually born as a changeling in a swampy area. It's in the My Little Pony FIENDship is Magic Issue 5. She tells Twilight to give her a Daring Do book in exchange for her background story. Then a flashback occurs in which a squirrel discarded a bad acorn into hole in a graveyard. In that hole was a bog of sorts where the acorn grew into a a magical but twisted tree with carnivorous plants which ate horseflies as its primary diet. Starswirl showed up one night to do a bit of research and got bitten by a fly, so he got salty and pinned a sign to the corrupted tree. But upon doing so weakened the bark, causing it to split open.
7 likesAt this point, the flashback ends and Chrysalis says "There is no story. I was born this way."
After all not every villain needs a tragic backstory justifying their actions and explaining who they are in order to make them a great villain.
@Lehla Quartz there is no real evidence of that
0 likesThat is a good theory and chrysalis feeds of love so he could of broke her heart on there wedding day
1 likeSawtooth! If you are reading this that's great!
0 likesWell, I was thinking you could do a video on gen 5! because I'm sooooooooooooooooooo hyped for it ! (Call me pinkie ;))
And I want to hear you ideas about it because you really inspirational. I hope to see EXTRODINARY content in the future.
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and now you gave me the idea that the next movie might show this one unknown alicorn
0 likesMy theory is that since cadence is the princess of love I think that she was born on hearts and hooves day and the alicorn in the picture is cadences mother.
0 likesIn the FiM Wiki Celestia & Luna are addopted Aunts of Cadance, not direct.
0 likesLauren Faust had planed just Tia and Luna to be Alicorns, just this 2.
Cadance was not planed as Alicorn.
I know no Alicorn in G1-3.5, the Princess in that Generations usual was Unicorns.
In the whole Franchise are just 3 real Alicorns (Tia, Luna, Flurry) and 3 winged Unicorns (Cadance, Twilight, Cozy).
Maybe Cadence is a Love Poison, I mean wouldn't it make sense that Chrysalis to replace Shining Armor than Cadence? Cadence is literally a giant food source of love for Chrysalis, and yet Chrysalis only trapped her underground... In a secluded place....so no one would be near her....to drain her love
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Should she have replaced shining armor instead, so she can have all that love? Or does she not wanna be a stallion??
0 likes@Emily plays games Stuwe Re-read what I just commented, Cadence could possibly be Love-POISON, I mean if you knew it was poison why would you even drink it? Unless it does a different effect on Changelings though
0 likes@Emily plays games Stuwe It makes more sense that Chrysalis imponynate Shining Armour. It would imply that a girl was about to marry a girl and sadly people have issues with that. Also they might have issues with a woman imponynating a man
0 likesMaybe raising the sun and moon took the other alicorns power and they had to become non alicorns then the royal sisters came and they simply ended up the only Alicorns🤔
0 likesMaybe since G5 is linked to G4, we‘ll be able to piece together little bits of information! :D
0 likesFlurry heart, the first alicorn born an alicorn
0 likesI gotta watch many times Almost every Sawtooth’s video
0 likesThe Alicorn in the book has Luna's bang/fringe so in a way I think it's Luna before she got sent to the moon
3 likesMaybe there are many alicorns but only some live longer like celestia and Luna others have normal lifespan and they aren't known much as they rule small parts. Maybe Twilight lifespan was small too but as soon as she became the ruler of equestria her lifespan extended
0 likesI am sure the new alacorn is caden’s mom😍🥰😍
0 likesCadance is an alicorn even when she was born and thats why she is not only the daughter of the two ponies in the tale but because she inherited the poison into an ability from her horn amaizing idea!
1 likethe journal of the two sisters has a character named princess amore and she is the ruler of the crystal empire.
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10 likesGood now i have your attention
The crystal heart had to come from somewhere and we know Candance was meant to rule... right? perhaps... her mother created or became the crystal heart
Maybe the children of Alicorn’s didn’t have a enough praise from the pony’s to turn them in to alicorn like there parents . Except a few alicorn .
0 likesI think it's her mother only because when her father and mother drink the love potion and they got married, Cadence was born as their daughter and the potion got in her DNA...and that's why she can do the spell without the potion.
0 likesHold up, if the mare was a princess then it could be the daughter of the unicorns, you know the hearts warming eve story when the three tribes sent their leaders. The female pony could possibly be the leader of the unicorn but she was a regular unicorn when Rarity was dressing as her. But what if she got her wings after hearts warming eve and a male pony fell in love with her since she is royal she could be the pony.
0 likesI figured it out I finally figured it out what if the Alcorn princess in the story and the Prince were celestial and Luna’s parents
0 likesThe potion the prince made may have been in how the Royal sisters came to be I mean sure they were born Alcorns but two unicorns kind of makes sense please tell me what do you think
I think her mother might have died in the war against king zombra ( I think it did happen in the history of equestria at one point ) or hid for her safety.
0 likesOk, this doesn’t have to do with the video but I was drawing and a theory came to mind. So, we know Luna turned into Nightmare Moon out of jealousy and hate right? Now, although Daybreaker was just in Starlights dream, what if that is her evil-pony version? Which leads me to my theory, despite the comics, what if only ponies that are born alicorns can transform and have a evil version of themselves? Like, when Flurry Heart was born, Celestia and Luna said they hadn’t seen a pony born an alicorn in the Equestrias, because the alicorn ‘herd’ that the two pony sisters came from was the only alicorn-born herd. So when they saw Flurry they were worried, a little confused but more worried, because they know since Flurry Heart was born an alicorn, she has an evil-pony version of herself. This is a random theory, and I know the portal makes it so this couldn’t be true because of Sunset Shimmer and Midnight Twilight, but it made me really think about the evil-versions of the ponies, and how that exactly works. Last thing to add, we’ve seen ponies be jealous of other ponies, like Sweetie Belle, but they didn’t transform, maybe even Celestia saying Luna transformed because of jealousy was a cover-up. Anywho, love your videos!!
0 likesI do have a theory of why there are no male alicorns, I was thinking that is something that only follows the female chromosomes, so any mare could have alicorn genetics, but it takes something special involvement that relates to magic, to become one and that offspring of two ponies even if it was an alicorn, could not be born as both a colt and an alicorn... I mean, have we ever seen any male alicorns in the show that really existed? the pony of shadows being a possible magic parasite that could have had two separate hosts (one unicorn and one pegasus) and alicorn big mac... well it was a dream of his but never something that truely happened, it would also explain why so many mares can go back and forth becoming alicorns... it's genetically part of them...
0 likesOk what if the alicorn from hearts and hooves day was the original leader of the crystal empire? It was around before King Sombra, it just disappeared under his rule. So what if the original leader was killed because of Sombra? It would make sense, he wouldn’t want anything to ruin his rulership. And cadence was still the daughter of that couple! But before the empire went completely under attack, the alicorn gave her away to someone to take care of her? It would make sense because her cutie Mark directly revolves around the crystal heart, plus being the princess of love and just coincidentally a kingdom made of love just appears? I think there’s more to that than what meets the eye
0 likesthe king has posted 😔✋🏻
30 likesI think chrysalis might of been a alicorn till something happened turning her into the changing queen
0 likesThe reason we don’t know about the other Alcorns I think it’s because starswirl when the two main princesses became Alcorns he probably put a timer spell on them so they would live long time
0 likesShe is princess amore . She is cadence's mother. you can research about her . You can read her story in the destiny of flurry heart ch 2.
0 likesI still want an explanation for the fact that Blueblood is Celestia’s nephew
0 likesLookin at you luna
Here's something to say something the alicorn princess looks wayyyyy to old for it to be Cadence also I think that the alicorn princess is someone entirely else because if the alicorn princess was Cadence's mom and the story says "They got so lost in each others eyes that they stopped doing there royal duties " then that had to be enough to stop loving a philly and if the cystal emprire still had royals that did their duties and love each other and 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 philly than for the alicorn princess to be her mom Cadence would've known better in the first place not to cast that spell and before adopting a freaking princess wouldn't Celestia asked her parents what if Celestia asked Cadence where parents lived but she said I live alone because my parents dont love me and maybe thats exlacty why Celestia adopted Cadence as her niece also if you said Cadence was a princess than wouldnt she be in a castle welp thats all I have to say bye!!!!!!
0 likesI think you should find out who was cozy glows parents because other creaters have parents and ponys but were was cozys parents?🤔
1 likeDude, you know, it's obviously Princess Amore.
1 likeIt’s not like every unicorn has love power so cadence must be a decendence from the pony’s in the book to inherit that
0 likesWe are now forming a Sawtooth Universe. Where all of Sawtooth's theories are interconnected.
3 likesIt is cool. I really like watching history and stuff
0 likesI have a theory maybe flury heart is the alicorn but from the future possibly because starlight opened other allterate universes could have caused flury heart to be older.
1 likeJust cuz Princess Luna can walk in dreams it doesn't mean that she can't walk in human dreams
0 likesThe secret alicorn could also be queen chrysalis because if the alicorn had an accident with the potion it could be if it is queen chrysalis and if the potion did something bad to har it could explain why she feeds on love since it is a love potion
0 likesWhat if other alicorns lived on different planets. In the comics, we do see that their are different planets in space. So who to say alicorns started their own little colonization on a whole other planet.
7 likesThe secret Alicorn Princess is someone that we don't know entirely because Princess Kayden was born a Pegasus and princesses Cadence mom was a Pegasus tow
0 likeswhat if the alicorn from the story is chryslis?
0 likesand she takes love now as revenge?
He fell in the portal...
0 likesSawtooth, please tell me that wasn't a one-way?
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You could say it is a-maize-ing
Other alicorns ? Mmmmh...maybe those animation errors were not errors after all...maybe the alicorns that we can see sometimes in the background are the rulers (or their descendance) of those minor kingdoms too ?
0 likesAnd maybe Fleur de Lys WAS an alicorn (since her body design is similar to Cadence's), ruler of one of those minor kingdoms...and when the power was centralized in Canterlot, she gave up her title, and her alicorn wings ?
I think the alicorn in the book is Cadence s mom and cadences mom fell way too in love with the prince because of the potion and that's how the crystal empire fell and king sombra saw that and used it as a target and destroyed them but didn't know there was Cadence who escaped from the help of celestia
0 likesDon't forget Princess Tempus. I think she was acknowledged as a possibly canon Princess by Faust??
0 likesSaw toot I am so proud of you.
0 likesI snorted when he said "Or Luna?" Because I can't imagine her in a scenerio like this
10 likesGreat vid
I personally think it's crysilas when she hypnotized shining armor
0 likesThis is not 100% related to this video, but I commented my theory on an older video, that Chrysalis was an alicorn before and something happend to her, or she got cursed, or something, and she became a changeling, and she can't change to any other creature because of that, that is why she refused to change to a good changeling. (I gave a lot more reasons in my original comment)
0 likesAnd how it relates to this video is that other alicorns that we don't know about yet existing just makes this even more possible.
Its not right as cadence s mom and parents even ruled the crystal empire when sombra attacked her mom gave him magic and she went to a earth pony village as she had no energy she left her to the pony there she deafeted prismia by the power of love and she went to the realm where she becomes an alicorn and Princess celestia makes her royal niece and she babysitter twilight and married shining armor had a baby princess flurry heart
4 likesheres what i think what happend there were alicorns but due to looseing power they lost there horn/wings im just basing that off of cozy glow and how she turned into an alicorn but lost it
0 likesMaybe the other Alicorns had to go into hiding 🙃
9 likesHasbro can get sooooo many ideas from sawtooth 🤔
0 likesHey I have a question what's the future of My Little Pony like is there going to be anything else even if it's just in a different timeline?
0 likesErr I think the secret alicorn princesses is
1 likeQueen alerga who is the mother of cadence, the father is king Eros :3 I hope this helps
BUT IF Cadance had been born an alicorn then birth of Flurry Heart wouldn't have been a surprise at ALL!
0 likesBut if Cadence was actually bord an alicorn, why did Celestia and Luna confirm when they first saw Flurry Heart, that the birth of an Alicorn is something that Equestria, and themselves have never seen before ?🧐
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Equestria is a kingdom, one country. Seeing that Celestia and Luna are busy with princess stuff, they're most likely not prone to visit other countries. They themselves didn't seem to have any children, so there still lingers a possibility that alicorns do have a chance to be born, but only if alicorn is the mother/father. From what we know there could way more alicorns in other countries, where alicorns actually breed with other ponies.
0 likesIn the episode where Scootaloo talks about her parents to the classmates, there is a shot of a globe she interacts with, from that globe we could see that there are numerous continents, which all have their own ponies and possibly actual alicorns. Maybe the education about the pony planet (not Equestria, since Equestria is merely a country not the entire world), ends on the close neighbours due to lack of communication as the technology seem to be around industrial era. We never seen these continents (other than maybe Griffonstone being on a different continent) so who knows, maybe there is entire country where alicorns are just as common as other pony types, maybe even some alicorn only cities? Maybe it's just the perk of the continent of Equestria that the alicorns are rare and these alicorns don't seem too keen to breed...
Actually there probably was minor royals cause in a episode(I don’t remember the name) it says that the FIRST queen started a tradition
0 likesI wanna say she could be a different alicorn where wasn't the story of the potion that was way before the Mane 6 were even born? It could be Celestia and Luna's mother and father or just a alicorn lost in time and forgotten by ponies
0 likesI got idea who it is.
0 likesWhen the Crystal empire returns and Twilight is searching for history book, after she finds it she brings it to Cadence and Shining armor (sorry if I spelled it bad) she says anything about queen of the Crystal empire if she was there before King Sombra (wich she probably was) she cloud have died in fight with him, and if every leader in equestria is an alicorn there is big chance she was an alicorn too.
my personal headcanon is that potion from the Hearts and Hooves Day story creates changelings in the long run
0 likesThis is almost the same for flory heart because her mother is an alicorn but her father is an unicorn but in the picture the prince is an earth pony maybe if Cadence was there daughter she must be an alicorn just like flory but when celestia said the birth of an alicorn is something that equastria has never seen that tell Cadence was not an alicorn
1 likeThis is almost the same for flory heart because her mother is an alicorn but her father is an unicorn but in the picture the prince is an earth pony maybe if Cadence was there daughter she must be an alicorn just like flory but when celestia said the birth of an alicorn is something that equastria has never seen that tell Cadence was not an alicorn
1 likethe princess must be a familiar of cadence because the younger cadence looks like the princess but the princess in the book is older
0 likesSawtooth can you take a look at Blue Blood and then the prince from the Hearts and Hooves day legend thing.
0 likesPls make longer videos sawtooth waves .....i Love your videos alot :)
0 likesWhat if it was chrysalis ,yeah she's considered a queen now but that would imply she had been a princess at some point ,she also has a horn and wings , her whole thing is feeding on love and love potions in most stories can cause a person to lose the ability to feel love ,their soul or even change them physically most often making the victim become undesirable in appearance , Not to mention a mistake could have disastrous effects especially if powerful magic is at play .
0 likesWhat about the comment that Flurry Heart was the first recorded instance of a newborn alicorn?
0 likesCould you make a behind the scenes how you make your video's?
0 likesWAIT WAIT WAIT it could be cadence actually! cause i remember terek saying THAT HE KNEW THERE WERE 3 PRINCESSES, who were celestia, luna, and cadence. and he was put in tartatus how long ago? thousands of years ago. so he would 1 be unaware of not only twilight being a princess but also. it would mean cadence WAS THERE WHEN HE WAS FIRST PUT IN TARTARUS! i really hope you consider this as a theory cause seriously. the princess DOES look like cadence, and with terek already knowing about her, she would be thousands of years old, maybe more. and again. we dont have proof to say when the story took place, only a long time ago. so i hope you open this theory back up, cause now we have proof saying she would probably be the princess in the story. and they say she was made into an alicorn by celestia and she was born of pegesi im pretty sure somewhere in the series(or one of the comics). so it couldnt be her mother. so please please please open this theory back up. i really want to know what you think about all of this.
0 likesI have rewatched the episode "Bats" from Season 4 and guess what? when Apple Jack was having a flashback I think I saw Cozy Glow's Grandmother 😱
0 likesI think the Alicorn in the story is different. Why? Because cadence wasn't born an alicorn but her daughter was. Going by genetics and from the one example there is a good chance that if the alicorn in the story was cadences mother cadence probably would've been born an alicorn
0 likesIt makes a lot of sense for it to be her bc of the lack of other alicorns and how they come to be etc. but at the same time it wouldn’t answer the burning question why it was never mentioned by cadence I mean she had plenty of times where she could’ve said something but then u think it was to painful I wouldn’t have talked abt it either and then you question why she would use the same magic that was used on her there for u want to think she is the product of those to ponies it would’ve been the influence of her father that caused her to use such magic or have such magic but then again with how alicorns work we don’t know for sure if it even would be possible then again all they need is a lot of love and Admiration soo in the end idk which to believe but I 100% with out a doubt know that old ponies tail has something to do with princess cadence
0 likesBlossoms!
4 likesAnyways it’s possible to have more than five alicorns as princess celestia and Luna should be daughters of alicorns to be alicorns in future or as your previous theory that celestia and Luna were alicorns because of star swirl, but with this video I guess my theory could also be true.
He is clearly the only one who can debunk his own theories 🤣🤣🤣
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just putting all options on the table!
1 like@Sawtooth Waves lol 😂
0 likesAt one point, I thought the princess from the book was chrysalis 🙂 when she was good, she could've turned bad because she got separated from her love. As she was so heartbroken, she substituted her love by gaining more love from others 😅 that is just a theory with no proof though 🙃
i have a theory. maybe this stallion earth pony king is celestia and Luna's brother because we don't know if they r the only two in there family. this price must have done something to make them embarrassed to even mention him to anypony so he was never bought up. we also know very little about the two's past so they very well could have a little brother that they tried wiping out of the history books for the potion problem. this alicorn could have been a every day earth pony, unicorn or Pegasus that did a big deed, like twi did a big deed, and became a princess and this stallion could have fell in love with her but she didn't love him back which made him think he had to cast a love poison on her (not realizing it's a poison and not a potion) to make her fall in love with him as well making them married eminently and having a alicorn foal that was dubed the alicorn of love so ponies could remember this event and hearts and hoofs day could be the day that cadence was born because she was the spawn of a love poison. and her love spell i can agree could be from her dad's bad influence that she thought was a good thing and was casting it on a lot of ponies. her father could have tried to make himself sound like the good guy and her mother could possibly have not said otherwise because she would have most likely gotten every bad thing about him erased from her memory by him making them a "happy family". but soon after she met celestia she could have been told by celestia when her father wasn't around about the love poison. cadence's father could have also taught her this love spell in a attempt to keep the poison a thing long after he is gone. therefore lying to cadence her whole life but anyway, after celestia tells cadence this cadence could have vowed to use the spell he taught her for good and on ponies she thinks would need it not fallowing in her father's hoof steps making her existence worth more then just being alive because of a poison. sorry that was so long but that's my theory. i clearly get too into theories. but again sorry. what do u think
0 likesif thats the story then cadence's daughter flurryheart might be the explanation of why shes born an alicorn cause cadence had a mother who is one, did celestia lie about not seeing an alicorn born??
0 likesThis is probably a stretch but heres my theory.
0 likesWhat if the alicorn princess that the love potion was used on was actually chrisalis before she became a changeling? And once she broke free from the spell she became one, wich would allow her to birth the rest of the changelings. This probably isnt true its just a random theory that popped up in my head while watching this lol
Hold up!!!!!!! If Prince Blue Blood is Celestia’s nephew, does that mean Luna is his mother?!?
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Not necessarily , if Celesta and Luna have a sibling we do not know about then Prince Blue Blood could be their child, we do not have proof of this but it could be true.
3 likes@Cherie Smith compelling argument...
1 likeI think Blue Blood is more of an adopted nephew like Cadence is an adopted niece, but I could be wrong
1 like@Jeremy Fitzgerald if he were adopted, he wouldn’t be referred to as blue blood... 🤔
3 likes@Katelyn Payne A name is just a name sometimes. Like Rarity isn't exactly a rare creature, it more so refers to her beauty. He may not be a blue blood, but his name could still refer to the fact that he was born or put into a noble position
3 likes@Jeremy Fitzgerald possibly, but I think this needs to be explained...
1 likeActually when we saw the future of mlp, when celesia and Luna were leaving they said "we are leaving to our home (id remember the name)
0 likesMaybe that's were the small ruling alicorns live
I think the alicorn from the story is Chrisalis (sorry if i spelled her name wrong
1 likeI feel like it's Flurry Heart or Cadence.
0 likesimagine if the secret alicorn was chrysalis
0 likesI was not Expecting this!! when I saw the title I FREAKED OUT!!
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SAWTOOTH U ARE SO AWESOME!!!
3 likesactually, theres something i didn't notice before, blue blood is celestials nephew right? Does that mean she has other siblings? i mean i know she has family but all we here about are the TWO sisters. Then again i might just be overthinking
0 likesLuna theory: what if there was an other worldly creature that fed off of jealousy, regret and anger like bad emotions. What if they came across Luna and fed of her jealousy and turned her into to nightmare moon. And the black splotch on her cutie mark could be some of the darkness that didn't escape OR it is a symbol of nightmaremoon, a cutie mark represents a pony and the splotch represents night mare moon. anyways bye (:
1 likeTheory:Celestia is the Princess and had Cadence but lied so no one knew Luna stops them she gets so mad someone made a love potion for Celestia and people sleep through the night and play during the sun she turns nightmare moon Cadence is brought up as someone else in the royal family Cadence not knowing Celestia is her mother. Celestia and Luna have long life spans so this could be a contender. But Cadence looks nothing like Celestia so I'm thinking she may have changed her look or Cadence's because in the past she has pink hair. Also the prince is a changing that lives in Equestria and is trying to put a potion on her to steal her love and acts like a descendant prince but kidnaps the real one. I think once the mane 6 rescued Luna Celestia had a nightmare about it all again and in that dream Luna promised to never speak of it again and would never forgive herself until the episode where all ponyville dreams the same thing.
0 likesI remembered something from harry potter- if you fall under a love spell your child cant feel love- or is it just a universe or cadance is faking all of the love stuff-
0 likesMlp has come to an ending
15 likesSawtooth: I'm still suspicious about something mystery...🤔🧐
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0 likesIn the diary of the two sisters (the real life one) its said that there was another princess named Amore, maybe its her?
0 likesAnyway, no matter who she is, the person’s probably related to Cadence.
0 likesBut, I think that Cadence would have just past the arguing people. Since she did use her magic, ( I mean, isn’t it a waste when she will need to use it for important-er times?) Maybe the Mayor is the princess!
It’s like Cadance Flurry and Shining
0 likesThey rule the Crystal Empire
But Celestia and Luna rule over Equestria
Could there be history before what we know of and something that drew the tribes apart
0 likesThese videos are the only thing keeping me going
3 likesCadence was born a pegasus, there's a book that details this
0 likesOkay there I a HUGE question that has been in my head for years..... Is Princess Luna a mom or is there a third royale sister or brother??? Because prince Bluebloods is Princess Celestia's nephew..... you can't have a nephew or niece with out siblings. Could you make a theory on this please???
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Maybe the royal sisters and queen Chrisalis are related?
0 likesi had a theory that chrysalis is the alicorn on the hearts and hooves day story
0 likes4:13. Correction, 6. Cozy glow
0 likesI think it's weird
0 likesmost of the Alicorns in the show are royalty unlike the other creatures only 1 of them is royalty
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King Thorax
Queen Novo
Princess SilverStream
like these creatures :/
What if all of the other Alicorns lost to history are just there chilling at Silver Shoals and nobody cares lol.
0 likesAlso how is prince blueblood celestia's nephew when he isnt the offspring of princess luna who happens to be celestia only sibling?
0 likesThere's also princess skyla and lullaby moon though skyla was supposedly going to be the orginal daughter of cadence before it was changed to flurry heart
Because flurry =winter rather than sky since you know Celstia =sky or the heavebs which is usually related to or referncing the sky
For a normal pony to become a princes she needs to have the qualities of all three tribes I guess that is the same for the prince too but the prince in the picture has no horns or wings he is just an earth pony so I think it's back then that the tribes were separated like earth ponies Pegasus and unicorn maybe he was the the prince of the earth ponies so I guess that was the first alicorn princess or maybe celestia
0 likesHi, there is an real alicorn hidden in newbie dash, wonderbolt show
0 likeshttps://mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Rose#Alicorn
In her profile: if you go to temporary ---> there is picture of her as an alicorn
I think you should really look into it
Have you heard there's a My Little Pony Gen5 coming out! 😄😄❤️❤️
1 likeI still like the thought that Pinkie Pie is Cadences lost sister. I mean think about it. Pinkie looks very similar to her and looks nothing like her family.
0 likesOkay, this might make sense but that would only make sense if Cadence earned her wings after doing something major. She looked like a young foal when she was with Twighlight maybe a teenager because she was old enough to babysit. But either way, that means that she did something major as a young foal which is still possible. However, she wouldn't be born an alicorn because Celestia and Luna are seen saying that Flurryheart is the first alicorn that was born. Just a plothole I noticed idk if anyone else said this already.
0 likesThink about the time when Chrysalis hypnotized shining armor and what Cadence did😉😁❤ sawtooth if you see this think about it😉 I also wanted for you to do a video about sweety bell and sugar bell same name look a bit a like 🤔hmmm 😂think about it im sure if you see thia sawtooth you will find more evidence! 😁👍 think about it...😉
4 likesMaybe king somra and queen chrysalis they got in love by the potion but like you said in another vdo that after Luna and Celestia Sombra got jealous and became evil....I think that's why chrysalis also became evil changeling and gave birth to evil army and the prince and princess who drank the potion became a mystery.
0 likesWhat if the two ponies from the story are Prince Blueblood's parents? 🤔
0 likes1: cadence was a Pegasus when she was young 2: Princess Celestia turned her into an À la corn I think that’s how you spell à la corn
0 likesY’all remember on season one ep 3 of mlp rarity talked about celestias nephew!!! We need an explanation
0 likesSawtooth: maybe I should put Flurry Heart in the-
3 likesYoutube: DONT YOU DARE
and that's how he got lost in Youtube :)
I have to agree that does raise a lot of questions but it's also kind of scary.
0 likesThe Alicorn kinda looks like Lyra
0 likesLuv your videos they are so amazing when I saw it in the notification I freaked out like OMG!!
2 likesWhat if Chrysalis is the alicorn in the story?
0 likesOmg this makes so much sense now
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If your theory about flurry heart being born an alicorn because her mother (cadence) is an alicorn is true, that would mean that cadence would have been born an alicorn too, which isn't the case since flurry heart if the firat pony to be born an alicorn according to luna and celestia
0 likesI think hearts and hooves day was founded outside equestria and made its way in
0 likesMy daughter has a Alcorn that I have never Sean be for
0 likesI Think it could be possible That its caydens mom but i Think we dont see her in our future its because as the story says they became too obsessed with eachother That she could not Care for the kingdom so maybe she lost her alicorn magic because of That?
1 likeWhat do you guys Think?
I keep on forgetting that he is a changeling 😁
0 likesCelestia and Luna are clearly at least long-lived, if not immortal, but that doesn't seem to be the case for all alicorns. Cadance is the one who demonstrates this; she was visibly younger when she was Twilight's foalsitter than she is in the present, and in the epilogue she seems to be either retired or dead, judging by the window commemorating Flurry Heart's ascent to the Crystal Throne. Maybe she feel victim to a non-aging-related fate, or maybe she's just lazy, but most likely she's getting old. And if alicorns are mostly not immortal, then it's hardly surprising that most of the alicorns over the course of the last millennium or more are long since dead.
0 likesIt could have been celestial as a younger version
0 likes“Perhaps the 6th alicorn is just lost to history....”
1 likeMe screaming mentally at the screen: “AMOREEEEEEEE”
And yes i know Amore isn’t canonically an alicorn in the comics but Sawtooth once made a theory that Sombra used to be an alicorn, so Amore could’ve been one at some point!!
me after watching the beginning of story: age spell
3 likes@Sawtoooth Waves
0 likesWell not much is known about Celestia and Luna's parents to. Who were their parents? What happened to them. And brings the question of Cadence's parents. We know of them now thanks to one of the episodes. But not who is the mysterious Alicorn Princess whom could be Cadence's birth mother. Funny thing jf that Prince that used a love potion on Cadence's mother. End up becoming King Sombra. Just my speculation of the origins of King Sombra. Maybe King Sombra was good at one time. And something or someone attacked the Crystal Empire. Making King Sombra to dwelve ino and using dark magic. And that dark magic made Sombra into the evil King of the Crystal Empire. And forcing Celestia and Luna defeating him to save the Crystal Empire. But Sombra put a curse on the Empire vanishing it for one thousand years. Only to reappear in the 3rd season of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. Then theirs still Spike's origins too. Like how did Celestia come to find his egg. What happen to Spike's parents. Did something killed them or did they abandoned his egg for his safety, if something was after him. And his patents abandoned him to Celestia and they fled. Never to be heard of again. And what if Celestia knew Spike's parent themselves. And only Celestia knows what became of them.
You're missing one, Sawtooth.
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Who?
0 likes@A R During The Crystal Empire Part 2 a random crystal pony shouts "Behold! The Crystal Princess!" when Princess Cadence arrives. This heavily implies that Cadence is a near exact look-alike to at least one alicorn that ruled over The Crystal Empire at least a thousand years ago, before the reign of King Sombra.
1 likeIf you consider the official IDW comics to be canonical, like Hasbro does, there's a huge amount of lore in the main FiM series that tells you exactly who this alicorn character was and what became of them. Some of this was slightly steamrolled when they brought Sombra back as a villain for the final season of the show, but it's not impossible to resolve the differences with the addition of lore or headcanon. I only bring it up because it's funny to me that, unlike the Star Wars or Halo fandoms where side content often directly and canonicaly supersedes what happens on screen, the FiM Fandom loves to just chuck away perfectly good explanations and plot complexity just because it wasn't animated directly into an episode. It's quite an inversion compared to what you might expect, coming from other popular media franchises.
@Amazing Mr. X Damn , was not expecting that. Thank you about sharing about what we know about before the rule of sombra.Even if it is a small part it still makes a difference.
0 likesSo birth of a very important alicorn could have been a mistake????
0 likes5:33 Hold it! did someone saw that rock that sawtooth tripped over?!? 😲😲😲
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5:34 where did he go?!?
0 likesBro
20 likesAm l the only one who catched that cliffhanger at the end of the video?
I don't see any comments about it..
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I saw it too.
1 likeIt saw that too
2 likesIT DO BE MORE LORE-
1 likeWhen my baby brother watch the oldest mlp I saw princess celestia was almost spread her wings does that mean she also like twilight that doesn’t know how to control her wing?watch the oldest intro u will see her wing almost spread it’s the oldest intro when she look at twilights picture before she have students
0 likesI think that alicorn princess's alicorn magic was stored in the grogar's bell
0 likesThis channel makes me fascinated
0 likesI think the alicorn mare looks like future Derpy hooves/dipsy hooves, am i right or wrong?
0 likesme: interesting theory
3 likes* deep rumble*
me: what the?...oh...its just fan-fictions
Maybe the alicorn from that story is princess Luna and I think those are her kids that's what I think I know I'm not a good My Little pony analyst but I'm a good analyst nonetheless
2 likesI think that the pony in the story of Hearts and Hooves Day is Cadence's grandmother and just like he said instead of cadence is that was the product of this love story but it was her mother so can her mother blah blah blah she found true love and Cadence was made but the influence of a grandfather love potion might have been affected to Cadence genetically that's my theory
0 likesI think that um...
0 likesWell, maybe the alicorn with the love potion is cadence's grandma
That's possible
right?
What about the fact in your latest alicorn video u said flurry heart got her wings and horn from cadence, so cadence would have been born an alicorn
0 likesImagine if that was celestia 👀 /j
3 likesWell, there's books from the creator of MLP. So the books are a bit cannon.
0 likesIs a mistake on the drawing staffs part and the thought no one would notice.
0 likesSawtooth: It's a "heart and hoof" story time
if this pony was her mother i do have my own theory that every pony that is a alicorn and gives birth they will give birth to a alicorn the only proof of this is flurry heart or is it? What if cadence is a born alicorn herself? I could not find anything of her in the show or canon that shows her getting wings remember just because i didn't find any doesn't mean there isn't any. Anyway and i also haven't found anything about any pony saying she earned her wings even if any pony did it could just be a lie that she tells people. but i don't know just a little thought
0 likesDear Sawtooth Waves,
1 likeMe and my sister think we know who Cadence's mother is!We think her mom is the person in equestria girls who runs crystal prep. In equestria games, we see the principal, it is not Cadence. Not sombra but, her mom. Running the school together as principal and vice principal. We also think her dad is the storm king because the principal, has the storm kings logo on the back of her chair, look at the bloopers for evidence. Thank you so much and please tell us what you think about our ideas. (We are using our mom's computer by the way) - Your fans!
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Wow! I have to rewatch Equestria Games, but i think your on to something! We’ve never seen the Principal as a pony before, but since Celestia and Luna are princesses but in the other dimension they are principals, the Principal from crystal prep has to be important!! :)
1 likeThank you!
0 likesHear me out what if the princess who got given the potion was Chrysilists and when the potion broke she turned to hatred and that's why she feeds on love
0 likesFlurry heart. If cadence was born an alicorn, witch she would have been, then celestia and Lina’s line when they see flurry would not make sense. Because they would have DEFFINETLY been around to see cadence as a foal.
0 likesCorrect me if I’m wrong, but it just doesn’t line up.
Okay random thing I just thought of- what if that was crystilis (sorry I can’t spell her name) in disguise as that alicorn. She could have cocooned..Him..? (Idk how else to put it) Or maybe another changeling- or maybe another hives ruler. Also- simalar to bees, are there other hives of changelings? How were changelings created? And what hive was Queen cystalist originally apart of?
0 likesI think it is another alicorn that was in love potion story.
0 likesi deff love the "edit" i was trying to
5 likes"edit" like this and its "ugly"😞😭
I think that's maybe princess amore she's in the history of the crystal empire she's not alicorn she's a unicorn she's old ruler of there , but I think she was alicorn but somehow she lost her wings and she's kind caring just like cadence so she could be .
0 likesIt was Princess cadence Mom also somebody said about the crystal heart Why isn't it Drawing your allure It's very very mysterious
1 likeOMG when flurry heart was born celestia said the birth of an alicorn is something EQUESTRIA has never seen, not the Crystal Empire! Maybe that princess was a alicorn since she was born!
0 likesOr maybe she was born in the crystal empire, like that other comment i made!
My head hurts trying to figure out that mystery lol
0 likesHey there! I'm early. Whoever found this comment, have a good day :3 (I never got one comments to get 12 likes, Ty!)
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1 likeHave a good day/night!
1 likeCelestiasl's mom is the alicorn princesses in the picture
1 like"MAYBE THERE ALL IN SOME ALICORN CIVILISATION"
0 likes(see what I did there)
Although this theory is a possibility, there is a much easier theory that is said in My Little Pony form. If you read 'Twilight Sparkle And The Crystal Heart Spell' Cadence says that she was just a Pegasus as well as an Orphan. She took on an evil pony who was jealous of love and used a gem (which is passed on to twilight from Cadence) to take love from others. But Princess Cadence stops her and shows her love (which also leads to her cutie mark) and then became Princess Celestia's pupil resulting with becoming an Alicorn.
0 likesOk off topic:
1 likeI'm pretty old but I still never got my answer qwq
I'm actually confused when human twilight went to ponyville. Like why was she a unicorn and not an alicorn like in the human world? Like she gets wings but in ponyville, she's only a unicorn?
I Imagine celestia and lungs family were looked up to What if the alicorns opposed celestia after she rid of her sister thinking she was a tyrant and celestia took the magic of those alicorns putting it in the amulet leaving her supporter cadence and this is what solidified celestia as a ruler
3 likesWhat if that Alicorn is the first queen of the crystal empire that Twilight talked about in season 3 episode 1
0 likesWhat about the kingdoms ponies like Princess Platinum came from?
0 likesI think that happened for the crystal princesse and smobra take over the crystal empire
0 likesYou know cadence doesn't look crystal
There is proof of another sibling to Luna and Celestia b/c neither of them have a love interest and the prince that treats rarity horribly is cannonly her nephew so who are his parents?
0 likeslmao love all of your theories there so interesting
4 likeslol hi to everyone who clicked so fast-
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They are though
2 likes@Tammy H i know isn't that what i said he always makes them interesting
0 likes@Dark(DW) I didn't mean it like that sorry it came off that way
0 likes@Tammy H its fine 🤗
1 likeSad dark plot twist : that was Cadences mother.... And father.... Cadence was a mistake that was loved her father and mother were never taken apart and had Cadence by mistake until the father only loved his "wife" and Cadence as a filly mangeged to get her mother away from her father for long enough here's the story.... (Cadences mother will just be called mother and her father will just be called father)
0 likesCadence : daddy!-
Father : HONEY! *runs to Candences mom and bumps into Cadence like she doesn't exist*
Cadence : daddy?
Mother : *see's Cadence and starts to break out of spell a little* honey your child.
Father : what child?
Cadence : I don't.... Exist?
When Cadence was about 10 but not a fillysitter yet
Cadence : mother lets have a girls day!
Mother : ok!
A while later the mother broke out of the spell faster the Cherrlie and Big Mac because she was already slowly breaking out of the spell then she left the father
Like, I'm in the middle of the video when a thought pops into my head, when the entrance into my head clearly says, "UNWELCOME THOUGHTS KEEP OUT!" anyhoo here's my thought. Cadence is Celestia's niece, right? maybe that mare in the story was: dun dun DUUUNNNNNNNN! Celestia's cousin/sister! I hope you look into that.
0 likesAlso, As I said, This is in the middle of the video, so if im repeating what you said, sry.
1:27 but the alicorn ur talking about might just be a pony cause the rest of her body is not showned so she might not have wings
0 likesHim: Is an alicorn that we- Me: DID YOU EVER THINK SHE MIGHT OF DIED!?!
0 likesNot first but I will say it anyway. FIRST!! To be real I love you’re vids I am always exited for them❤️❤️❤️❤️
5 likesWhat if celestia took away their alicorn hood or they gave it up to the sisters could be the central power
0 likesI kinda want to know how you can become someones nephew or neice when theior siblings dont have any children does this mean there are other suiblings of Celestai and Luna we dont know about?
0 likesCelestia only has a sister. Luna, so how?
0 likesWhat if that Alicorn princess was Crisalis maybe when the spell was broken she got so angry that she kill him and became a changeling and when she says that they have no hearts because she had her heart stolen from her
1 likeFirst and sawtooth waves I’m one of your biggest fans
12 likesWhat if to free the alicorn she had to become a unicorn and then just got lost in history
0 likesI think it is the first princess of the Crystal empire
0 likesNow we know there is also a alicorn🦄🦄🦄
0 likesIt would be nice if you made a video of Equestria Girls, not so long ago, you made one of Pinkie's clone. In her video, "The 5 lines you need to stand in" she went to a hotdog stand, and it's pretty easy to notice a person who looks like Celestia, and at the end, someone who looks like Luna. Are there clones in the human world too?????
0 likesSame pony and alicorn's age when the start to they get flowy mane
4 likesOkay so like. We know that the prince and princess became to lovey dovey bc of the love potion and twilight also said that bc of that the kingdom fell. Maybe thats why we dont see much royal families anymore?
0 likesIf it was from back then on different tribes do you think it has to be Celestia and Luna's mom
0 likesWhat about that one paid dlc from the game loft game— I think her name’s like “Princess Amore”. I’m pretty sure she was in the the IDW comics but then again those probably aren’t canon
0 likesI disagree because Princess Celestia says that no pony has been born an alicorn in equestria before Flurry
0 likesI was making a video but this is more important 🗿
15 likesThe only power Prince Blueblood has is the power of ultimate rizz 3:32
0 likesI personally think it's just a made up story. Ponys have only seen their princess as an alicorn, so they makeup a story about a princess, they make it an alicorn because that's what they think signifys royalty
0 likesIn the episode "a royal problem" what if Princess Celestia had turned into day Breaker or something along those lines?
0 likesI have a question, if Celestia has a niece and Nephew, doesn't Luna have the same niece and Nephew?
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3 likesWhat I think is yes in the picture it is Cannes mom but the 6 allecorn is lost because she does not have wings
0 likesMaybe you think about it for a sample if Kayden the floor feels nice then who is cadences mother that’s probably is her mother maybe Celeste had a secret sister
0 likeswhy are the alicorns/rulers always PRINCENSESS/QUEENS why not KINGS/PRINCES (except King Sombra)
1 likeSkews me is it okay if next time you can talk about that window where the students six and The space robot thing because it’s bugging me that no ones trying to unravel the mystery
1 like;3 hi hoomanz-
3 likesIt isnt her mom in twilight and the crystal heart spell it said “she was a pegasus a infant alone “
0 likesHeres an idea from an old tumblr comic.
0 likesA Dragon Came
The Kingdom Fell (Could be the Crystal Empire?)
Chaos Reigned (Discord)
About alicorns ageing, Celestia and Luna were born alicorns, which explains why they live so long cause of some alicorn shenanigan. But Cadence wasn’t a born alicorn but that leaves Flurry Heart a mystery unless Cadences mum was a born alicorn. Cadence was a Pegasus and was adopted after her parents mysteriously disappeared. If Cadences mum was an alicorn, a princess in royal line, then her descendants were also alicorns. But in the book neither her parents were pegasi. There is a slight chance Flurry’s alicorn-ness wasn’t from Cadences mum, but a descendant from before Cadences mum. Do you suppose it… skipped? But then someone else in Cadences line made her mum an alicorn. Cadences dad was a unicorn, unless we suppose Cadence was an alicorn after her line of princesss’ husbands. But it isn’t fully direct at all. Unless her mum was a born Pegasus too and got that from one of the first princesses of the line.
0 likesRemember the MLP toys of the two alicorns no one knew? maybe it’s one of them.
0 likesFun fact: 8 people can't be first
4 likesWhen you realise mlp ended without celestia or luna getting a bf
0 likesWe have seen luna became nightmare moon before so what is the possibility that chrysalis was the unknown alicorm who became wicked?
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That’s true
0 likesYou know, or it could have just been a story =)
0 likesThe problem with her being cadances mother is then shouldnt cadance have been born Alicorn like flurry heart
0 likesEarly!
3 likesI personally think that it's a new alicorn we dont know
0 likesThe alicorn in the story is probably dead as a result of her kingdom falling...woah.
0 likesI think her mother is Princess Radiant Hope Sombra's crush I assume this because we don't really have Sombra's backstory he might have also been an earth pony you know.
0 likesMaybe the princess is chrysalis but before she became what she is maybe because of the love potion she needed more love so she asked a unicorn or some kind of witch docter to make it happen and thats why chrysalis is they way she is
0 likesEarly
4 likesHave you seen other videos on YouTube it's definitely Cadence's mom
0 likesdonut joe look alot like the prince and maybe Fleur-de-lis was an alicorn but like Sombra got down graded
0 likesWhat if the daughter of the unicorn tribe was the secret Alicorn princess i think she found the Alicorn amulet and put it on and she became an Alicorn for years until star swirl took her magic away.
0 likesI read the title as the secret corn and thought that the picture was a piece of corn
0 likesHi
5 likes1:11 there are now 7 known alicorns in equestria
0 likesok so get this in seseon 4,terek took magic from ponies ,but he got magic from all the tribes ,so what I'm saying is that Tereck had enoght magic to be a alicorn!
0 likesIf Cadence is her neice. There had to be a third sister... Since Luna or Celestia doesn't seem to act motherly towards Cadence.
0 likesI think it is Luna they look the same and if cadence is celestias neese
2 likeswell for what we all know Luna is celestias only sis and this might be a frozen situation in frozen Anna is used by Hans so he could have a throne and then he would kill the queen so if this was before the royal sisters rolled over all of ecaestry they could of had there own kingdom and celestias was Queen so this unnamed pony would plan to kill celestia after him and Luna where married but the really of this was the birth of the real first born Alacorn because in the baby sitting send she was really young I think Luna did not tell her sister that cadence was her dauter
Hi
3 likesPrinces Celestial and Luna has an older sister.
1 likeSo the dad should have been a Pegasus?
0 likesCause it is said that no baby has been born as an alicorn but flurry heart
what if the secret princess is a unicorn?
0 likesWell my theory is that maybe we know the alicorn princess what if...................
0 likesThe princess is chrysalis, it could explains why she feeds on love and perhaps its why she knew about cadances whereabouts and maybe just maybe the prince is king sombra aka king cobalt,in the hearts warming story he had a daughter that was a unicorn maybe that was cadence that could explain her "urge" to spread love
YOOOOOOO
4 likesIF CADANCE IS CELESTIA’S ADOPTED NEICE, THEN SHE’S LUNAS ADOPTED DAUGHTER
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not necessarily
0 likesI cant. Believe. You. Replied.
0 likesAlso... you’re right, there may be other sisters or brothers involved somehow... OOH THAT WOULD MAKE A NICE THEORY!
0 likesIf Cadance (sorry if I spelled her name wrong) was born an alicorn, then I think the genes when on to flurry heart sense flurry heart was born an alicorn
0 likesbut like didn't they say that flurry heart was the first pony born an alicorn??
0 likesWhat is there where alicorns who controlled Things like
0 likesIce
Fire
Air
Night
Day, but most of them died?
FÜST
3 likesWhat if the princess in that picture was Luna and her sisters mom when she was younger and before she met their father
0 likesYou forgot to mention that sunny is an alicorn
0 likesI though Flurry Heart was yelling in the thumbnail because of the other pony.
0 likes👁👄👁
Sawtooth has now become one with the Youtube algorithm
0 likesE
3 likesWhy is Luna much smaller than Celestia? Or is she just small? I know she did become tiny when released from the moon but got bigger again soon. Also, why was she filly like when released? And when Twilight got bigger, did Cadance and Luna get bigger?
1 likeI think if Prince blue blood and Princess kadience are celestias Nephew and Niece wouldn`t Celestia know there parents? It asks it bit more then it answers.
0 likesBut also what is the connection between Prince blue blood and kadience?
Why do I feel like king sombra (somba?) Is the prince and the princesswe see got got her obsorbed from him years later after the hearts (cough crystal heart) and hooves day, king got overwhelmed cause the power wasnt his and now he's a red an grey villain king? Idk just a thought I had
0 likesI think that actually IS Cadence!!!
0 likesFirst,
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I literally got here 5 seconds after it was uploaded.
1 likeQueen Chrysalis was around that time in fact she was a young pony
0 likesIn a fan comic, Cadence's mom is a princess named Esmeralda
0 likesHold on what if sombra is the boy from the picture while cadince is the alicorn?
0 likesIdk about this theory but it might be the fact that the alicorn that we saw might be princess ingrid the eldest sister of celestìa and luna.....
0 likesif prices celesta have ness and nephews do that mean luna is their mom or is it a nother sibling?
0 likesYES FINALLY I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS
0 likesWhat about Blue blood though? He looks like the male pony in the picture . . .
0 likesMaybe the alicorn princess is the crystal princess
1 likeOkay I have one question in season 1 rarity mentioned celestia's nephew Prince something is that Prince Princess Luna son I could he be celestia's nephew from another sibling and if he is lunas sun who is the father???
1 likeOkay I have one question in season 1 rarity mentioned celestia's nephew Prince something is that Prince Princess Luna son I could he be celestia's nephew from another sibling and if he is lunas sun who is the father???
1 likeOnce it comes out you should make some videos on MLP generation 5
0 likesif prince blue blood is celestia's nephew she must have another sister or brother because it can't be princess luna ?
1 likeIn the Crystal heart spell song cadence said she was a Pegasus infant alone. Maybe they we so in love with each other they left her alone so she wasn't in the way
0 likesTheory time so I think that it's someone else bcz after your previous video I checked what was Cadence's age in season 9 so it told that it was around 200 it means when she was twilight's foalsitter her age can be around 45 or 35and the alicorn Princess we saw in the hearts and hooves day book she looked that she is 150 or something then blah blah blah and then cadence got born but somehow her mother got lost or something else and according to Cadence's backstory comic she was adopted by earthponies and then blah blah blah bcz according to the out skirts of a modest town line bcz she was sent there by a pony who wanted to rule instead of cadence's mom but she got defeated by celestia and luna but then celestia and luna looked for cadence so she could rule instead of her mother I think that place is crystal empire and then celestia took her to be her niece but she thought she was not ready at that time bcz she didn't knew Cadence's age when she was looking for her and she wanted someone bcz she banished luna bcz she said that she raised cadence up under luna 's name that your true mommy will return one day so the end
0 likesTechnically 6 alicorns if you include the bad one
0 likesI think it could be queen chrysalis , because in my opinion she was first ruler maybe the one before Amore . And I think in the book of hooves and hearts day the mare is chrysalis and the stallion by be even sombra or possible don't true shining . I think chrysalis liked him . That's what I think.
0 likeswhat if the mother was part of the older main six.
0 likesOk ok hear me out what if crysilis (sorry if I didn’t spell it right) was that princess but then she learned never to trust love again and that’s why she eats it
0 likesCelestia and Luna's mother is a alicorn and her name is Galaxia.
0 likesBut do earth pony's even have magic? The only one that got magic back when it was returned was pinky pie
0 likesMaybe the prince and princess in the picture are the parents of celestia and luna
0 likesHi sawtooth waves I think the alicorn is cadences mother but maybe its not it might be a different alicorn.
0 likesRemember that Queen in the movie or something in the play in Canterlot that Queen might have had Prince Blueblood or another Prince maybe not a prince at all
0 likesWhat if it was Celestia & Luna's parents?
0 likesWhat if cadens mom IS christalis? 🤔
0 likesSo, if blue blood is celestias nephew. Does that mean that he is lunas son???😳
0 likesI think it might be parents or an Aunt maybe even grand parents
0 likesThis got me thinking, what if it’s chrysalis? I know this sounds dumb but she does have wings and a horn. Sure she’s not a pony but what if she was once? The Alicorn was put under a LOVE spell and the spell can easily go very wrong so maybe the alicorn got addicted to the love it gave her? Turning her into a love hungry creature, chrysalis. Maybe when the alicorn started consuming love from other ponies it turned her into a changeling because the power the love gave her was too much? In the movies the villains always turned into a creature from too much power so maybe it could happen to the ponies in the world the magic came from. It would explain why she was the ruler and why the changelings were only able to feel full with love from other creatures. Now another thing is how the changelings became a whole hive. Maybe the alicorn wasn’t the only one consumed by the love, maybe the guy got consumed too. Them together would probably make babies...? But the hard part about this is where would he be now? I was thinking maybe he couldn’t handle the power and eventually died from it leaving no trace of him... another way to go about this theory is maybe chrysalis wasn’t evil at one point...but when the guy died she became even more love hungry, since she didn’t get love from him anymore. This theory sounds kinda far fetched but it was fun to think about:)
0 likesCan you do some theory about princess larva? We only had a toy of her
0 likesWhat if king sombra was the prince in the story 🤔?
0 likesI know What is the secret alcorn princess's name It's princess Amore
1 likePony revolution. Pony guillotine. wham bam no more royals ✨
0 likesOkay, this is super random, but I can't find season 9 anywhere except amazon, where you have to pay like 40 dollars us or something. If any of my fellow Canadians know where to find it, can you please tell me? I need to know exactly what happens, not vague spoilers!!!!!
0 likesyes it does Sawtooth which is sad for Cadance's family :(
0 likesCan you please do the Seventh element theory please there is lore behind and everyone is saying that it is spike that is representing acceptance.
0 likeshas there ever been a male alicorn?
0 likesEden’s mother is a unicorn princess
0 likeswhat if the princess in the story is no alicorn but a unicorn
0 likeswhat if the secret princess.. turned into Chrysalis ? It might have been a curse or aftereffect of the love potion. What if it corrupted the alicorn, turning her into Chrysalis and thats why Changelings feed off love or why chrysalis is so aggressive towards friendship and royalty...?
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Yes! Some one else has the same theory!
0 likesOI heres a question for you to answer, how is Celestia prince BlueBlood's nephew. The only sister Celestia has as far as we know, is Princess Luna. EXPLAIN!
0 likesRight when he said secret alicorn I got a add about my little pony saying new princess alicorns in the all new pack XD
0 likesThe question is.. If the story is true..
2 likesThis stuff is soooooooo cool❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
0 likesThat makes it sound like Equestria was the holy roman empire all over again
0 likesMan this allicorn stuff and royalty stuff just sorta throws my oc out the window lols
0 likesMaybe a huge earthquake or something happened because of some ponies trying to oearn more but it sent wrong And created a huge disaster witch caused a lot of the royals to protect their subjects but die in doing so but some survived and continued to rule but over fewer subjects because they fear if there are to many ponies another crazy pony will start another disaster.
0 likesI think it’s a secret our coin because if you pay attention to the show you will realize something well if you seen the movie but there’s something interesting like that and tell you I might be the most clumsiest pony
0 likesWhat if that alicorn was queen chrysalis!
0 likesI think the pony in the story is dundundun celestia but the prince in the story died years ago because he wasn't immortal
0 likesif cadence is celestials neice, that means cadences mother is celestials sister and lunas sister
0 likesCozy glow was the 6TH allicorn
0 likesJust saying the alicorn in the heart's warming tale story is definitely not cadence I don't have any evidence of that. * Sorry*
0 likesSawtooth you are royalty.
0 likesI think that the mother maybe d- by giving birth or the love potion worked off
0 likesShe could be princess amora cadence mother she ruled crystal Empire as u said the love potion made them forgot about their royal duites
0 likesOkay so I think you're correct on it could be kittens is mother and father but what I'm thinking is that the princesses retire so maybe the father mother retired and are in the show
0 likesSomeone help, you know that we have 2 twilights,but why we dont have sunset shimer
1 likeThe ancient princess cant be cadances mother because her mother is the lost crystal princess she is princess amore surprisingly she is not an alicorn she is a tall and elegant unicorn
0 likesI think it’s The queen chrysalis Past time in the love before coming an evil Psycho
1 likeWait wait no flurry heart. Celestia and Luna said that a birth of an alicorn is something they never saw so there can’t be previous alicorns
0 likesI believe it was Cadence's mother because Cadence was a Pegasus so she can't be a alicorn back then either she could only be a full back then because how would she be a alicorn right now
0 likesAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, This is awesome 😍💕❤️😘😍💋🌹💖
0 likesTHAT'S WAT MY MIND SAID WHILE WHATCHING THAT VIDEO
0 likesI was like "hm her mother maybe I mean the power that cadence has so maybe it must be he mom"
Their actually is another alicorn her name is kauane
0 likesHi Sawtooth I love your channel but I have to disagree but I have a new answer it is pause for dramatic effect dun dun dun dun Luna you heard me right I think this because Luna and Celestia are thousands of years old and what made me think that is Luna is… That is why she is never noticed and hides herself in the shadows (Meaning she is sort of secretive.) Well that’s my disagreement.❤️❤️ your channel please please please reply and if you think I’m rong prove it if you think i’m right explain.🌑🌑🌑🌑🌑✨✨✨🌟🌟🌟🌌🌌🌌.(these things represent Luna byyyyyye.)
1 likeHere is a funny fact princess amore was the first princess of the cristal empire 🤔🤔
0 likesOk this is my second comment
0 likesI did watch many of ur Alicorn videos maybe even all of them
And yes my first comment said that Luna was still nightmare moon in the moon
So this is how I think the alicorn royal families rose and fell
For the basics this would take place during the celestial era which began after nightmare moons defeat and ended when nightmare moon returned
What we only know is that 1. The summer sun celebration and wonderbolts were created
2. Apple smith and her family was the key to founding ponyville
3 the rainboom happened causing twilights magic to activate making 5 others cutie mask + celestia taking in twilight
Because of these two big gaps in the timeline This means that royal families existed before twilight came into the mix
So here’s the full story (spoiler warning: I did made some stuff that could have happened but just let that sink in)
After nightmare moon was banished to the moon and the summer sun celebration+wonderbolts were created
Some powerful ponies had the idea of getting lots of support becoming alicorn and soon royalty and families
One pony named waterfall droplet a popular female unicorn married with a male unicorn and after marriage
They got real popular, getting exposed to all magic from all different tribes soon they became alicorns
Soon this idea spread throughout equestria and alicorn populations started to grow
Soon there were now 120 alicorns during the year of 1629
Some even made nations of their own
But then ponyville came in and celestia had more popularity (not because she founded ponyville :/ )
Some royal families had to learn that celestia resign was,ore important to the others
Soon there were 54 alicorns left
And then one alicorn drank a potion made by her husband they fell madly in love until it took control of them
Celestia had to separate them in order to break the spell
Soon royal families realized they had lost popularity due to what happened to the couple
Soon all royal families were separated and their alicorn magic faded away and due to their longer life span going away they lived until death from old age
Soon twilight came in taken in by celestia, made some friends, defeated nightmare moon and did all those those other stuff making her and cadence an alicorn
The end.
Until cadence gave birth to an alicorn named flurry heart who soon made it confused
And that’s how the alicorn royal families rose and fell
EQuestria sure it’s full of mystery
0 likesI think it’s the pony from my dear Luna
0 likesi think we are missing someone AKA Queen of the cristal empire
0 likesI think the alicorn princess might be katence mum
0 likeswhat about the queen and king character that only showed up once in mlp? I don't remember the episode but they were right next to the two princesses at the time. If I remember correctly that episode was before Twilight was a princess, but I mgiht be wrong
0 likeswhy do you always say two particular people angrily when mentioning alicorn tier
0 likesWhat do you use for your Oc? I have been watching you channel sence 2015
0 likesOr maybe the pony in the story couldve been a Pegasus and when flurry was born thats why everyone was shocked maybe cadance couldve been born with wings and a horn aswell, but idk maybe im talking non sense but couldve happened who knows 😅
0 likesIt's chrysalis, Celestia is the shows true villan
0 likesNow then gen is out I wonder if this mysterious pony is the origin of villain opline
0 likeswhat if starlight is twilights sister because they have strong magic
0 likesThere are or use to be Tribe of alicorns not in Equestria. Which is why Celestia and luna were shocked flurry was born IN Equestria. It's rare.
0 likesHold up Luna and celestia we think don’t have foals but if they have nieces and nephews that means they have other siblings.What if they had 2 brothers!I can imagine the one closest to Luna would be midnight (he might be a bit quite but friendly).The one closer to celestia would be called ray(a selfless colt).that’s how I imagine it at least, but it is a bit weird.
0 likesI think the prince is the prince from the gala. When Rarity saw the prince
0 likesCozy glow ! If celestia didn't give her wings or a horn how come before she met grogare shevwas an alicorn
0 likesReally? maybe its princess cadence although I love this theory
0 likesAwesome and cool!
0 likesWell we’ll never know ‘cause season 9 ended like 2 years ago... so we’ll have to find it out our selves
0 likesmaybe cadence is not the princess in the hearts and hoof day but maybe just a thought the princess in the hearts and hoof tale is cadance, great great great grandmother because sweetie belle did say '' a long time ago'' so we don't know how long was the long time ago just a thought
0 likesit could've been Princess Amore
0 likesBut bye this theory candence was born a allacorn but from the sisters we know that flurry heart is the first one
0 likesWhy didn't the mare have a horn?
0 likesI think the mare is a Pegasus
Nice hey can you add that unicorns and Pegasus are earth ponies too
0 likesNOOOO SAWTOOTH PLEASE READ THIS.
0 likesCadence is princess Celestia's and Luna's niece. Meaning that PCelestia and PLuna had a sister who is the alicorn. I think that because they are both alicorns so they could have been born as them along with the extra sister. I think the extra sister fell in love with the stallion and had Cadence.
PLEASE I HOPE YOU READ THISSSS I BEG OF YOU.
you said that Celeste ya could have the princess of love as her as her niece, but that would mean that she would have more than one sister that would mean Loona gave birth to the princess of love, Luna's moon, which has no connection to love so technically you're wrong, but I still take your theory, but it would have to be someone of celestial bloodlike her sister, maybe she had up well, there you don't know a unless it's Michael, but now I like twice, I was a baby with you was like, 15 so technically yeah
0 likesHiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! i have watched you for a while now but i have a question when the storm kings magic escaped equestria and entered the human world and rainbow sunset and twilight went to the pony world human twilight discovered the magic of friendship and had wings in the human world but when she entered the pony she had none does this have something to do with her roles a a student not a principal ? or the time difference in the moon cycle? what does this mean for the people that have wings in the human world like rainbow and fluttershy? are pony twilight wings artifical or something? I NEED TO KNOW
0 likesWOOOW! The Game of Thrones in MLP XDXDXD
0 likescan only female ponies be alicorns?
0 likesI realized while watching this that prince whatever his name is because I don’t know how to spell it is not just celestial’s nephew so he must either be princess Luna’s offspring or Luna and Celestia have other siblings!!!!!!lol
0 likesIts queen chrysalis thats how she became bc it kinda look’s like it :3
0 likesI think that when luna and celestia were still little ther were multiple royals, and one of them were cadence's mother and hr father was from a diffrent royal, as she grew up cadence had a rough childhood, so when celestia and luna where older they went to cadence's place and took care of her, and cadence parents kingdom went down and the other kingdom was very near too so canter lot was the last royal place left and celestia and luna helped buuld the kingdoms with cadence, they decided too not let the other old kingdoms to have a ruler and just be a normal town. And thats my theory so yeah sorry if its long
0 likesMaybe but Celestia said that flurry heart is first born alicorn so i don't think Celestia would not remmember that she born Cadents
0 likesBut the mare can't be the mother of cadence because no pony has been born as alicorn
0 likesI personally think its prince blueblood and cadence since when they were young LOOK AT THOSE SIMALARITIES
0 likesI think I know who Cadance’s mom is
0 likesITS PRINCESS PLATEN/Rarity when she played at the play
I saw the video when u said that King (forgot his name) lost his wings and that his daughter was princess platen what if he gave his wing to
PRINCESS PLATEN
My theory about alicorn become alicorn : because equestria need it . Like princess celestia and princess luna. they become princess sun and moon because when the princess siblings age there's still a problem about sun and moon raising even star swirl have a problem about it to he need seven unicorn to help him. The alicorn of hearts and hooves day maybe once a princess of love in celestia and luna where they still young era and in that era's she became an alicorn because she can solve love problem in that era and maybe because she's dead or something cadance replace it as the second princess of love and how she become an alicorn is the same as the alicorn hearts and hooves they solving live problem. I mean twilight became a princess because she solving the mystery from star swirl with friendship and flurry became an alicorn because crystal empire need more light.
0 likesI really bad at English
IT WAS ME! I WAS THE ALICORN ALL ALONG!
0 likesI think that celestia and luna are immortal because they used to be connected to the elements of harmony such as the pillers and maybe even the mane 6 and spike and young 6. So cadence may not be immortal. But if she were that would be quite sad since she wouls lose shining armor. So that alicorn might be dead. And now that the mane 6 has been connected to the elements fot a while, they might have felt their own connection disappear and so their immortality. That s why they retired, they might feel their end coming up. After all, why would they retire just to spend the whole eternity doing nothing?
0 likesHim and the royalty in the ep Twilights kingdom part 1, those royals weren't alocorns
0 likesOk this isnt relevant to the hearts and hooves storys but all the principals in equestria girls was alicorns so where is principle cinch she would in this logic be a alicorn in the pony world wich means there is alicorns we have never seen but since most of the personalitys is the same with both human and pony i dont think that princess cinch (sounds wrong in my mind) is the alicorn in the story but cinch is probebly an alicorn and my or my not be out there (i will say i got this theory on a picture i saw on insta that pretty much said that cinch would be an alicorn so shout out to that post)
0 likesCelestia mother is Queen Galaxia and cadance mom is princess Amore
0 likesokay but isnt Cadince (idk how to spell) Twlights cousin or Aunt? (I cant remember) I mean, how would that affect the Famliy tree of this theory and timline? 👁️👄👁️
0 likesEdit: Lol babysiter I am dumb. Nothing would affect the timeline nor Family tree...
Completely unrelated to this video but since it is something to do with mlp,
0 likesIs anyone else excited for mlp G5 to come out?!
I have some dogs that are married and I know that they have not had a wedding they are just married same for other animals like horses. Horses are like ponies and ponies are like Pegasus and Pegasus are like unicorn and Alcorns are like Pegasus and unicorn so I don’t think any of them have had a wedding it’s just the two of them love each other A lot
0 likesI have one idea that we could theories
0 likesSo you know that scootaloo is rainbow dash’s sister. In the show we not only see rainbow dash parents, we saw scootaloo’s parents too.
We met rainbow dash’s parents but scootaloo didn’t notice that they were rainbow dash parents.If scootaloo was rainbow dash’s sister then she would notice that it was her and rainbow dash’s parents a lot quicker.We also saw scootaloo’s parents which is a different colour. So why are they sisters even tho they have separate parents?
if cadance is celestas neice then that means that celesta has another sister
0 likesIt's obviously cadence's mother 👩👑
1 like4:00 if this is true, Twilight is related to Celestia. Twilight:😯😮😀😃😆
0 likesi dont think cadens and luna or celestia was the secret alicorn i think all princesses known her exept twighlight cuz in google i shearched is there a secret alicorn? and it says the missing princess so can it be her and she was missing!
1 likeor maybe that alicorn is princess Admore?
0 likesPrincess Cadence is the adopted daughter of Princess Luna and the sister of Prince BlueBlood. So there is no way that she is Princess Luna’s real daughter.
0 likesWhat about the old princess from the crystal empire before sombra
0 likesI found Princess Cadence mother her name is Princess Amore😀💓💖💗
0 likesIm kinda curious what would happen if the equinox ponies tryied to invade equeastria who would win and why
0 likesIt could be Celestia mom
0 likesHow is Cadence Celastia’s niece? Who are Cadence parents then?
0 likesHmmm I think its Celestia's mom.
0 likesWasn't Cadence born a Pegasus?
0 likesTwighlight Also earnd wings
0 likesThinking about something and I got it another Creacher are the king and queen like queen nova she look like cadance mom she is hiding it because king sombra can't find her she is sooo powerful and celestia ' mom is powerful too you know
0 likessix! If we are including Cozy glow. but techinally she isnt a true Alicorn
0 likesand I think that those royals are Celestia Luna Admore Chrysalis and Sombra
0 likes2 questions: 1-Do Aliens exist in MLP? if so then 2-is Cosmos an alien? This character from the mlp comics because she comes from space off the planet so you think.
0 likesI think that if Cosmo is the closest to an alien seen in mlp because there are time lines and dimensions with many species, it seems strange to me that an alien has not been seen or is that only Cosmo is the closest to an alien.
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She doesn't look too much like an alien, but this got me thinking of Discord right away. I don't think he could be from Equestria, but from MLP, sure. Discord came from his own dimension, and maybe Cosmos did too. From the same dimension, I meant. She looks a little like Discord.
0 likes@Quinn Russ Well I mention Cosmo in the sense that the space came Discord will know, well, who knows maybe when that dimension began to exist, discord also began to exist is something full of mystery.
0 likesIt could be the mother of Luna and celestia ?
0 likesImagien if the people who drew mlp just accidently drew wings and this guy makes two 16min vids
0 likesCelestia's lost sister! (No...)
0 likesI think cadence and prince blue blood might be siblings
0 likesMaybe it was twilight on hearts and HoopsBut heart and Hops day WasaLong time ago so Maybe it was princess Celeste Tia or princess Luna but the secret it’s too deep so baby it’s twilight
0 likesThe secret alicorn is Chrysalis
0 likesCould apple jack parents still be alive im mean they could just be lost in unknown lands in equestria
0 likesBut if Cadance is that old then her relationship with Shining Armour is wrong on SO. MANY. LEVELS.
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never even thought about that, but shiny is a full grown adult, he can marry an immortal goddess if he likes xD
0 likesCadence was Originally a Pegasus
0 likesI think it cadence mother since cadence gave birth to an Alicorn, Cadence could have been born an alicorn.
0 likesi think that the princess could be cadences mom and the prince her dad maybe but like the prince looks like the donut pony alicorn fan made thingy
0 likesWait so if Prince Blueblood and Cadence are the niece and nephew of Celestia, then are they brother and sister? Or did Celestia and Luna have another sister/brother that had kids in resulting to the birth of Bluebloodn and Cadence??
0 likesOk same question is flurry heart still alive during the new gen Is she I mean it’s a gud question
0 likesCelestia just have another sibling other than Luna if she has a nephew (Prince blueblood)
0 likesPrincess amore the original ruler of the chyristal empire
0 likesWho is blue blood? Nephew? 🧐
1 likeMom of the galaxia is the mom the daughtur is luna and celestia
0 likesIt kinda makes sense now of cadence giving birth of an alicorn
0 likesIt could be her mother and her dad
0 likesit can be if cadance's mother it makes a mystry but the alicorns can lose majic what if they where banished in a world like limbo and more
1 likeI think Discord likes Princess Celestia
1 likeHow did cadence get her cutie mark also when did she get it and why is it the crystal hart?
0 likeswhat if the alicorn was princess chrysalis and the spell somehow turned her evil bcs if im sure she's know as the princess of love and bcs the spell she was madly in love and thats why she feeds herself with other ponies love
0 likesWhen you used to think that mlp was just a little kid show you watched when you were 5 👁👄👁
0 likesor its chrysalis how she used to look in the past
0 likeslike Hasbro has to make many portals to many other dimensions, unknown lands, past, future
0 likesSo that Hasbro can continue the season of my little pony friendship is magic again
And don't forget Luna and Celestia returned to being queens and Twilight became evil characters many times so Luna and Celestia returned to being queens and promised their people
Luna & Celestia won't stop being queens forever
And so also flurry heart Dan Cadance together rule the crystal heart kingdom
Sawtooth waves actually may be eaten it is princess cadence the blue bro good with the print it’s
0 likesOr maybe queen chrysalis used to be a pony before and she pay different time
0 likesWhat if chrisallis was that alicorn like maybe she has been seperated from Her love and noqw tries to find it
0 likesWhat if the princess was chrysalis and and because of her alicorn blood she out live the prince and after he died because of the love potion she no longer could love so she started to steal love to try and eventually became the changeling queen.
0 likesCould cadence be born an allicorn
0 likesIt Could Be Accurate For That To Be Her Mom Or Where Else Would She Get Her Make People All Goo Goo On Eachother Magic
0 likesMaybe twilights new taker to be a new her might be sunny mom in the new mlp g5 movie that’s why sunny became a alicorn
0 likesI love Alcorn🦄👑
0 likesCadence,s mother is the one who is there.
0 likesHello I am a little and I was just thinking what if you have the magic from two tribes Like to be a unicorn or a Pegasus
0 likesWhat if cadance time traveled
0 likesIT'S HER MOTHER!
0 likesFlurry what are you hiding??!!
0 likesIf you think about it in one of the episodes regarding the Galla, rarity wants to meet queen Celestia's NEPHEW!!!!! But it's not Luna's son!!!!! So they have another sister!!!!!!!!
0 likesWell it could be her mother
0 likesWell I mean- Prince Blueblood and Princess Cadence are apparently Celestia's nephew and niece.. But uh- Has anyone actually wondered how that works? I mean- They're obviously not Luna's kids, right? So.. Maybe there is another alicorn sister we're unaware of. Or brother. Who knows.
0 likesWell the mystery princess can only be…. PRINCESS STERLING AND PRINCESS GOLDLILY they wher mention in the cutie mark magic toys mlp
0 likesI’m VERY late :> but my theory is that it’s cadence’s mom that died long ago in the history of MLP maybe the heart and hoof day was just a celebration for people in love and not just some . Crazy love potion who knows maybe cadence’s mom is still alive and well and from cadence’s oldest home but I think she is dead and cadence’s mom is celestia’s and luna’s sister and they broke the love potion for the kingdom of course cadence’s mom had a kingdom for herself far away from her child’s one who knows what gibberish MLP is hiding
0 likesand I think that cadence’s mom was not “in love” with the person who gave the love potion maybe it was just him who was in love and not cadence’s mom I think cadence had been an alicorn all her life because I never really understood why she came an alicorn I think she was born naturally with it her mother was an alicorn and if her husband had been a unicorn or . Pegasus then her daughter would be one naturally born just my theory tho sorry for some miss spelling
Ok we have nightmare moon and we have daybreaker and we have midnight sparkle the evil version of human Twilight Sparkle how about Heartbreaker I mean cadence
2 likesyour channel is awsome!!!!
0 likesAre you gonna talk about G5 on this channel too?
0 likesWhy is there a flower in his mane?
0 likesQueen Chrysalis is a alicorn has a home and awings. your eyes!
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She's not an alicorn.
0 likesWhy do I feel like since furry heart is a new born so before she was born she was the princess who fell in love and then the king killed her? Or she might have died from old age
0 likesI think it’s a alicorn that you mite not know but I think it’s the mother of celestia and maybe caydence doesn’t have a mom
1 likeBut cadence was a filly when twilight was so this makes no sense at all.
0 likescelestia is most likely to be the pony
0 likesI think the secret alicorn is cadasese mother
0 likesCan you do one of princess cadence mom
0 likesWhat if chrysalis was her mother, chrysalis would have ruled a land of her kingdom where ponies and changelings lived in peace. But one day a colt prince from a different kingdom is going around equestria to find a bride, he eventually comes along chrysalis kingdom. They meet and chrysalis does not feel it necessary for her to have a partner when she has shown she can be a strong leader, so the prince keeps trying and trying with no success. Untill he finds the love potion. He uses it on chrysalis and she unwittingly is in love with him, and the out come of that would be cadance. I think that at this time chrysalis and celestia where friends, so once cadance was born chrysalis gave her to celestia to raise as her niece. Chrysalis try's to gain back her kingdom with no aval, well except for the loyal changelings they get banished from the kingdom. That's what I think.
0 likesi think the book's princess is princess cadance.
0 likesWho else love princess cadense
0 likesI think the secret alicorn is actually not a princess but she was queen chrysalis before she turned evil
0 likesWhat if that’s a princess who had a future but then she didn’t because she was not in love with the prince it was because of a spell.
0 likeswhat if big mac was the prince they look a little simular.
0 likesCadence was abandoned and adopted by earth ponies also check out the comments Sathwooth same topic
0 likesIt can't be blue blood he is a unicorn and the horse in the pic is a earth pony
0 likesBut chrishlalus has wings and a horn so is chrysalus an alicorn?
0 likesShe is flurry hearts grandmother
0 likeswhat if it were luna that makes sense cuz celestia just happens to be cadence's aunt
0 likesI mostly think that the alicorn we see on the book is cadences grandma why i think that well i fell like it and i am very positive whitnit
0 likesIt's cadence mother and now she is a legend and cadence father is legend too now
0 likesIt says Equestria so Luna and celestia can be an alicorn in birth
0 likesSo Is She Truly 100 Princess Cadence's Mother?
0 likesIn my opinion i think cadence has a sister and not shining armors sister but i think cadence has a sister
0 likesoh oh i know who is the secret alicorn it should be queen amour she ruled crystl empire before cadence
0 likesI don't know because the prince just to make a love potion if you keep them away from each other the spell will break
0 likesPrincess amore was the heart & hoof day story alicorn and cadence complete mane is princess cadence mi amore + princess amore was real crystal empire princess
0 likesI think it princes miya Mora cadnsa's
0 likesMother
Queen chrysalis is a Alicorn
0 likesPrincess Gold Lily or Princess sterling ?? There was a Yellow and light purple princess G4 toy released
0 likesThere is one more alicron. There are 6 not 5 the alcorn
0 likesCelestia and Luna‘s mother Galaxy and their father which I don’t remember the name
0 likesTey 8 Alicorns in Equestria : Celestia, Luna ,The Alicorn we dont know, Twilight, Flurry Heart, Me Shine Star,Delta Brony and Luster Dawn but Cadence is NOT a Alicorn because in Day aria we not see real Cadence ’s Crown so Cadence is a pegasus.
0 likesI think it’s not an Alcorn I think it’s a Pegasus or a unicorn but definitely I think it’s 19 and says she passed away thank you and so so family so I guess that he gets his mama gave her wings actually so nice to give her wings to graduate from high school and and so on so Takumi she was a family and she was I thought she was one left that was a
0 likesdid we see timber's dad?
0 likesI completely forgot that you're a changeling😳
0 likesits maybe the first ruler of the cristel empire
0 likesWhat if the princess wasnt an alicorn at all that would make other new stories
0 likesOk now you aren't even trying to hide it, whats with the flurry heart in the thumbnail.
0 likesAm I the only one who think that pony princess from the story may bee Queen Chrysalis? and that may bee why she is the way she is in the series? You know that the two of them wanted so bad to be closer, so that she got another potion so they could become one or the potion did it somehow. She does sing in "This day aria" "In my heart there is no room" be course that somehow the prince is part of her?
0 likesis princess cadance born as a alicorn?
0 likeswhat if the princess was starlight
0 likesMabey those are Luna's and Celestiia's parents
0 likesI have a theory my theory is about cadence mom here my theory: if there is a secret Ali oen princess and as he said it might have been her mom ( or did he? ) I think there is a has ro game called my little pony in where 5ere is this unknown princess I don’t remember her name but she and pink hair purple fade and a snowflake type cutie mark what if that unknown Alicorn princess / queen is candace mom and she is the princess in the story could it be possible? Let me know what u think it was nice sharing my comment wiht you!?
0 likesCadence's mom maybe?
0 likesWho says she was a alicorn?
0 likesHey Crystal spell fit this cadance mother and father were lost and didn't take care of their child then cadance got lost and then the crystal heart story
1 likeIt could be cadence's mom as you said that it is not the other princess and cadence was not there as you said it could have happened before her birth.
0 likesTWIGHLIGHT IS AN ALICORN
0 likesWhat about the ones in the game XD yup totally cannon alicorns XD
1 likeI think that his parents have government job in Equestria like mayor mare and why it said he's a prince
0 likesCadence started as a Pegasus.. she wasn't born an alicorn
0 likestrick question what if it's amore, the original one from the comics
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What if she was reassembled but, at least a few parts were missing, but only when she has a complete body, can she have her heart back.
0 likesThe princesses in the picture is a alicorn we don't know but the alicorn is a princesses
0 likesWhat if the alicorn in the story is not a alircorn but a missing tribe not in the story??
0 likesDo luna and celestia call each other sister because they are real sisters or because they are both alicorns so they just call each other sister.
0 likesThe prince have a same coler hair as cadace
0 likesCan you pls make a video about Luna
0 likesI think it was her parents but they divorced and vanished..so that’s why cadence love helping love
0 likesI think it was her mom
0 likesIt was Pinkie Pie she dreesed up as an Alicorn don't question me I'm positive
0 likesOk ok but. What about the prince...
0 likesShe could be cadens mother princess amore
0 likesWhat would happen if discord went into human world?
0 likesLol in that time Luna was wasn’t there so it was just celestia
0 likesLuna was still nightmare moon in the moon
I know it’s just an error
Don’t get mad
The princess cadence is daughter of Amore
0 likesI love 😘 your videos
0 likesif cadance was born with wings AND horn i think its like a gen thing i mean flurry heart was born with them
0 likesCould discord and chrysalis where candice parents to the heRthsday
0 likesMy Giant Human: Warship is Magic
0 likesNot blueblood . The pony in the picture does not have a horn
0 likesI have somthing that might help you do another vidio. When the Crystal Empire redurend Princess Luna keept insisting to help Twilight and her friends save the empire. Why did princess Luna wanted to help them so badly? (Sorry i don't speak English so good)
1 likeI. Love ponies❤️🌷🌺🌹
0 likesIf it’s true cadence isn’t the first Alicorn to give birth.
0 likesYou're queen chrysalis's grandson.
0 likesbut cadance was born as ad pagsis
1 likeUmm have anyone realized that there were 7 elements of harmony
0 likesPrincess Goldlilly and the other pink one
0 likesand prince blue blood is cadence's brother
0 likeswait what is sunsetshimer 's cuty mark mean if you mind
0 likesWHAT ABOUT A MALE ALICORN
0 likesWho is that Alcorn Princess and the mystery is the best
0 likesYou have made a video explaining pinkie sense, what about Maud sense.
0 likesprincess amore's desendent is candence
0 likesShe was royalty
0 likesWhy tf do I not get notified when you upload?
1 likeIt feels as if YouTube is turning against me😳😔😭
Cadence and shining armor
1 likeHer mom🤨😋😋
0 likesMaybe the mistake alicorns .
0 likesOmg😮😮😮
0 likesthe thumbnail scared me
1 likeBut how do we know that is true
1 likeI think she was cadence mother because 1 the horn was bigger in the and in the real life it was small and also height and alicorn in the story could be princess amore the first princess of love
0 likesBut prince blue blud is a unicorn but prince in the picture has no horn
0 likesCadance was originally a pegasus which i uh- dont believe, maybe
0 likesOne thing why cadince never show a clue if she hade parents
0 likesWell Maybe I have the case that the alicorn princess would be cadence mom . AND I have a story that fits. Well long ago there was a prince and I dont realy think who is the prince in the story. But lets move on the story. The prince walk along and when he was walking he saw a beautiful princess . the Prince and the princess were in love but they never see each other and one day the prince made a potion and let the princess drink it and they were together for every and they had a beautiful baby name cadence . and thats it well I think that cadence was BORN IN ALICORN. well lets look at this way when cadence was a littel kid she was a alicorn and she is young to turn into a alicorn and I think that cadence was the first alicron baby to be an alicorn not flury heart she was the 2nd baby alicorn to be born I don't know about that but I think dont know?
0 likesIf celestia has a nephew and a niece,and there none of Lunas kids,the 2 sisters has another sister or brother of cadances parents! Please reply!
1 likeyou have a very good point
0 likesFurry heart is the first alcron born।
0 likesLike Celestia's niece was cadence then what if cadences mom was celestia's mom's niece and before Cristal empire of found someone ruled the cristal empire before Sombra did so maybe that somepony can be cadences mom and when Sombra came cadences mom fought him but died. Can this happen??
0 likesStill waiting for the theory on apple jack's parents -.-
0 likesMaybe cadence mother 😄
0 likesOk what if they are cadences parents and it went something like this
0 likesOh look the queen gave birth-And she died 5 seconds later hey new daddy you wanna hold your-nevermind you just killed yourself welp kid looks like your an orphan
Or and I’m just saying
The parents were so in love they forgot they had a kid and she got taken away from them because neglect and all that stuff and Cadence just doesn’t remember them
and because she’s an Alicorn celestia says
“You know what let’s just call you my niece”
So take it however that’s just me adding on to this
Cadence is do have a mother and her name is princes Amor
0 likesAm i an earth pony or a unicorn/pegasis or a allicorn?
0 likesI think it’s cadences mom
0 likesOh you mean one the alicorn sisters that you mentioned it trying to figure it out yeah I heard that one in the beginning that they are more than just 5 alicorns
0 likesyou should make a video about celestial's nephew becaues we don't no his parents caues luna is'int his mum
0 likesThe mom of Luna
0 likesThe alicorn is flur🤣🤣🤣
0 likesWhat if the other alacorn is the Princess of " life " ?? Cuz life=love. Life cuz someone created you and love of 2 people or a position. (I'm 13 years old.)
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I love your pfp! It’s snowdrop as an alicorn! I loved the snowdrop animation!
0 likesThe book can’t be from cadence because because that if if it’s cadence that means shining armour is the other is the other one but shining have Arma has a full one and he doesn’t have a horn
0 likesI think that Cozy glow is the first alcorn
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Alicorn
1 likethat makes literally no sense, since Cozy is A) a child and B) A PEGASUS.
0 likesPrices amor is her mother 😂
0 likesI think Its princess Amore cadence's mother
0 likescant the cutie mark crusaders become alicorn
0 likesI’m I can’t wait to see what happens next
0 likesIt is her mother as the farther of cadence is a Pegasus or earth pony
0 likesOR THE PONY HOW PUT THE LOVE SPELL COULD BE THE relitive of BLUEBLOOD!!!!!
Maybe is Fllury heart or... Uhm...I think of that later?
0 likesEverybody: a new alicorn
0 likesMe:crysllis
ok so the 5 alicorn is katns mom ok it is a long rode but it is a theory so katns mom is alicorn right so if the 5 alicorn is bron a alicorn it has to bee a origin story .
0 likesor jsut story got twisted so much so no alicorn was involved but someone spiced it by adding one there
0 likesMight be celestia and Lunas mother
0 likesHeey have someone noticed that the animals of the 6 no longer have appeared?
0 likesCadence's mom is a Pegasus
0 likesMaybe it's cadences mother
0 likesI think it’s cadence mom
0 likesIt is princess Luna and king sombra when Luna was young and when king sombra was not evil
0 likesHello my name is Bella and I think there's more alicorns princesses
0 likesPrincess cadence’s mom is princess amore
0 likesWhat if it's cadence's parents
0 likeswhat if the queen of the changlings queen name i dont know how to spell is the prinssecs/love spell person i forgot my evidence cuz i mean to type this at like 11pm last night but didnt have the energy to and now is 5 am and i forgot my evidencee
0 likesI think it's Cadence
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣the thumbnail tho!!
0 likesPLOT TWIST the alicorn in the story, who is cadince (sorry if I wrote that wrong) mother. Is none other than, CHRYSALIS!! QUEEN OF CHANCELINGS!!
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My thots exactly
0 likesLes go!😆
1 likeits possible but if the princess in the story an alicorn then chadance is an alicorn and we saw her as a kid and shes not anlicorn and if it is that the things that luna said that a birth of a alicorn has ever seen before
0 likesthe pony in the pictureis are bluebloods father and cadances mother
0 likesmake your self an alicorn pls pls
1 likeIsn't it Princess Amore? The mother of Princess Cadence???? But, Princess Amore was never an alicorn.. I do not understand 😩
0 likescan you make a video about of princess Lauren pls
0 likesDo you think a episode in my little pony made a special explain this exact story
0 likesWhy can’t scooter Lou fly
1 likeIt’s maybe cadences mother
0 likesi think it was a super super super long time ago so it is a bit hard to connect it to today🤷♀️
0 likesNever mind remember kittens and shiny armor Wedding
0 likesSaw toot are you an Alicorn prince.
0 likesCozy glow is a alicoorn
0 likesIn derpy hoves s origin an ailcorn comes Ii THINK she is the one
0 likesNo I still think she is the princess
0 likesMy long standing theory is that this was a lost alicorn, she wasnt Cadance, as Cadance would have most likely been shunned if word got out that she had used a her magic or allowed someone else to use her magic in this way. Also, Cadance doesnt seem to be old enough to have been an ancient love story. I think that this princess had once been a student under celestia (If you have a problem with twilight being the only apprentice, go watch the mlp equestria girls movies, you are way behind) and had been turned to an allicorn (celestia needed to learn and practice that spell somehow). She was charged to take care of a more distant land (Simmilar to the crystal empire) and at a summit a prince fel in love with her (Most likely an ancestor to prince blue blood) and decided he must marry her, whether she agreed or not (Henry the 8th), so he decided to have a potion made. He may have gone to a zebra, seeing as Zecora gives of the impression that zebras typicaly have a knack for potions, and ordered them to make a potion. The last day of the summit he offered her a glass of 'wine' and they instantly fell for each other. Celestia tried to stop them before they could be seen by the public, but it was no use. Eventualy they had to be detained by the royal guards (Making the guards for once not incompitant) and were seperated. The princess was stripped of her title and non birth given magic in a miss judgment by Celestia, and the people of her kingdom turned against her. Since we havent seen it yet, and never will see it, I like to imagine the princess was originaly an earth pony, and she went to live with some distant family members so she didnt have to deal with the overbaring shame that filled her when she would see her parents faces (Who became the new rulers, as the princess was un married and had no heir). She was erased from the narrative, but the prince eventualy confessed on his death bed that he had tricked the princess. When Celestia heard of this, she went to find the princess, but found she had died durring child birth. Celestia had felt horrible, wishing she could bring her back and almost cracking under the pressure of an entire kingdom, her sisters absence (After luna turned into night mare moon), and the guilt of her own neglegance. Instead she decided to make sure no one would be affected by the terrible potion again. She ordered a writer to make a short story about the princess, as to honor her. The writer had been told to not tell the recipe but he didnt listen to her commands (Because this is Mlp gen 4 and Males are the stupider sex) and found the recipe from a jealous rival of celestia's. When he published the book he was put to stone, and all the copys were mandated to be destroyed, but a few remained as thurough check were not preformed. Eventualy one of the last copys was placed in twilights library and twilight, being the bookworm she is, decided to read it one day, whixch was the day she ran into the cutie mark crusaders.(ps, sorry for any mis speling, its really late and Im tired but I had to give my two cents, hope you enjoyed reading this, Im surprised your still reading even after my random bablings.)
2 likesThere are two alcorn toys
0 likesOkay for that to be Cadence's mom it will mean that Cadence was born an Alicorn and in the episode when flurry heart is brought into picture it is indicated she is the FIRST alicorn baby to be born. So no she ain't Cadence's mom
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SHE WAS BORN A PEGASUS DEAL WIF IT
0 likes@Lucy Randomness further prove my point. Cadence wasn't born an alicorn
2 likes@Comrade Abigor true, “Candace” was not born an alicorn, and instead a pegasus
0 likes@Lucy Randomness did you have to put Cadence in '' ''?
1 like@Comrade Abigor you said Candace when you replied to me
0 likesI was pointing it out. Just a typo
0 likes@Lucy Randomness ohhh srry I typed it wrong
0 likes@Comrade Abigor it’s very very okay
0 likesHappy new year
0 likesit can't be cadance mother beacuse not every time alicorns kids will become an alicorn like twilight she become an alicorn but her mother and father was unicorns to the end
0 likesPrince Buleblood is Celestia’s son
0 likesthe pony alicorn is not cadence
0 likesI think that is princess armour
0 likesLike cadence grandmother when she was younger
0 likesshe's someone else entirely
0 likesI have a Thera that if star swirl the bearded did make allacons made he but has a dark secreted to toher all allacons in the futurea like a side effect for giving them intense magical power which is the long lifespan to let them see all their dear loved ones die as they don't do you agree with this?
0 likes마이리틀포니 만화책에 썸브라의 어머니는 크리스탈 이잖아요? 무슨 연관이 있을까요?
0 likeshold on I have a theory what about Chrysalis her wings look like crystal if you look closely and so my theory is about chrysalis’s past..l have a feeling SHE IS THE CRYSTAL PRINCESS 👑 she WAS never mentioned BEFORE the new princess I mean maybe she tried to take the crown back ???????????????????????????????????????????????????
0 likesif Celestia has a niece and nephew doesn't mean that that Celestia and Luna have other siblings?
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the other Alicorn could be the other sister of Celestia and Luna?
0 likesMe: ThErE cOuSiNs
0 likeswhat about the books on mlp, is there any vlues in there?
0 likesi think its candances mom
0 likesWhy do the pony sing a lot instead of My Little Pony they should be called the singing ponies of an orchestra
0 likesHelp me i cant find my pajamas
0 likesEdit: nvm i was sitting on them while watching mlp theories
And so are your parents queen ocellus and king pharynx.
0 likesSawtooth. How come your not in the show
0 likesastel is the alicorn name
0 likesWhy don't we see rarities parents?
1 likeI think that her mother basically just protected her life and then died but there’s nothing really protecting that sooooooooooooooo
0 likesIs it her mom????
1 likehey Sawtooh did u see the 5th genration its HERE well not realy but we have an short ! do you think you can make video abaut it ?
0 likesBut didn't you say in your other video Princess Luna and Princess Celestia aren't really princesses?
0 likescadances was younger them twilight when she became a alicorne but how did she become a alicone
0 likesI am a Alicorn princess
1 likeBlue blood has a horn so it is not that pony
0 likesUhh is anyone gonna ask about where he went when he tripped and fell into that portal with the "Upload video" feature? 😅😅😅
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check out my channel trailer "i am sawtooth waves"!
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves oh ok
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves oh wait in that case I wonder what you're gonna see on the internet this time lol
0 likesWhen you started the video I was thinking celestia no
0 likesOr them since sawtooth is non binary.
0 likesMaybe which Alicron you are finding it is pass
0 likesOMG OMG SAWTOOTH YOU NEED TO DO A THERY ON HOW KING SOMBRA MAY BE A CHANGELING AND UET VTO RUN THE CRYSTEL EMPIER WITH QUEEN CRISILES.... AND SOME PROOF IS THAT THEY ARE KING SAND QUEEN, THEY LOO SIMALAR. THEY BOTH WANT LIVE, QUEEN CRISLES WAS THE OLD LEADER BUT THEN SOMTHING HAPPONED AND THN CADENCE CAME AND THATS WHY SHE IS ALL EVILO NOW... THERES SO MUCH PROOF!!!!!
0 likesmabye she's cadance's mom
0 likesI Don’t mean to dismiss your theory but cadence is the adopted niece of Celestia and you were being adopted which means somebody had to have adopted Cadence and that somebody had to be Celestia sister but it definitely wasn’t Luna so maybe the Alicorn (the princess of stars(?)) that was possessed by the potion you’d be correct as cadences mother and Celeste your sister even though it’s not Cannon and this is just a far-fetched idea
0 likes😍
0 likesthere are 6 alicorns-
0 likesi think the princes is mysteries
0 likesi think that it is someone we dont know
0 likesNo way! It is CADENCE😎💗💖💘💝💓❤💛💚💜💙
0 likesIT IS JUST A DRAING!!
0 likesAre you an alicorn Sawtooth Waves
0 likesWhy was Cadence have wings without horn she was not a alicorn lol and flurry heart was so why was she not born as an alicorn ?
0 likesWhat happened to sawtooth waves at the end.
0 likesBlueblood is Cadences brother
0 likesBlue blood is an unicorn
0 likesWhat if queen chrisystals was that pony there was reason she turn evil and what if that was the reason
0 likesYou edit your videos with your Secret horn
0 likesIf she has a niece and nephew then shouldn't that mean she has another sister or brother who had them because from what I know for those 2 to be your niece or nephew you need to have a sister or a brother who had kids
0 likesor the alicorn from the book can be the muther of cadance and she got her powers by her perents cuz...her mum got efected by the spell if that makes sence...uh idk uwu i dont know how to explane good oof...
0 likesCandance was a pegasus before she was an alicorn dude
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yep
0 likesWhy is there no boy alacorns that is what I want to know Like why
0 likesI like this better than the other theory.
0 likesLol what if king sombra was cadence's dad and celestia adopted her
0 likesI think that is cadence mom
0 likesDid Celestia has another sibling besides Luna
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Maybe nope
0 likesWatch cadence backstory
0 likesThere are other alicoorns BC there are other pony's like me brother a dragon pony OR me sister bat pony i sm a bat dragon pony But idk of the story Princess i think it is death But idk
0 likeswhat if its Celestia And Sombra
0 likesSawtooth waves if you think that comment from me is about the video that thing is on is not okay I'm just asking why do people call magicl girls Mojo's when they can just call the magical girls seems a little bit weird okay and also I created my own magical sea who is my original characte and please read this my account may look boring but read this comment okay.
0 likesWhat if it is flurry heart
0 likesWhere is Yoshi darklord?
0 likesAre you a reformed changeling or still a unformed changeling
0 likesBut she was adopted by two or ponies
0 likesmaybe queen galexia
0 likesHow about those to Alcorns
0 likesI think cadance's mother
0 likesyou say every single week but you Post sometimes every three or two weeks
0 likesI sub,hit the bell,and liked
0 likesCadence's sister
0 likesits princess amore from gameloft
0 likesDo you think that maybe there’s will be hundred Ali own and some pony killed them off
0 likes2:00 look at this
0 likesWhat about Princess Amore
0 likeswhat if she is her mom
0 likesCadence sister?
0 likesShe could just not be real
0 likes👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
1 likeCan you upload more
0 likesim sorry that thumbnail made me laugh
0 likesMaybe first find out about the prince
0 likeswatch sombra story maby the answer is conneted
0 likesCHRYSALIS!!!
0 likesAre you going to touch the topic of mlp gen5? (sorry I didn't ask this in another platform I don't use anything aside from YouTube and occasionally tiktok)
0 likesWhat is your favrate alicorn
0 likesIS THERE 6 ALICORNS OR 5 HELP
0 likesIt is Kadinses mom
0 likesI think your right cuz the alicorn was yah
0 likeshmmm.... are you sure about that boy i think is a unicorn not the other one and another
0 likesI don't think it Cadance she look to young to be it
0 likescadence's mom is princess amore its TRUE
0 likesBut she will still be in love and thay could have been dead
0 likesTʜᴇ ᴘʀɪᴄɴᴇ ɪs ʙʀᴏᴇᴢᴇ
0 likes🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
1 likeIt can be chryclis
0 likesCelestia. Luna. Cadence. Amore. Radiant Hope . so on so fourth
0 likesI think it is forgoten princess
0 likesThat was in rainbow saving
0 likesIt Cadence's mom
0 likesHe is in Japan in this video
0 likesHmm you must know that prince is an erth pony no horn
0 likesMany she was cadance mom?
0 likescadants and criseles are in war and are sisters
0 likesComments : Talking about things
0 likesMe: DiS aLiCoRn Is CrEePy
We have never seen klozeglo mum
0 likesFinally I got to see this vid on the phone TvT
0 likesSawtooth smoothching ew.
0 likesSawooth waves where is sunset shimer element she has a element in loss memory but nothing equestria
0 likesI think it is not cadence nor the princesses because cadence earned her horn and the princess in the book already have it's wings and horn and besides it looks younger and the two sisters looks older.
0 likesMaybe look at all princess front hair if it does not match then maybe it could be cadence’s motther
0 likesI. Think. It is an another alicorn
0 likesI love your video it very fun like like omg ong la la
0 likesCelestia is cadence,s Aunty
1 likeWhen you made the how dose the Portillo work I thing I no how it works. It work by magic
0 likesI am a Alison princess
1 likei was thinking princess amore
0 likesWait maybe it's cadence mom dad of its Luna mom or dad or celaceyah omg am I wrong
0 likeshi I am moonlight sparkle, I think it is four de lis
0 likesMaybe princess amor princess cadence mother
0 likesor maybe they create another alicorn
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What is Chrisalis is the missing alicorn?
0 likesit's just a story tale
1 likeHey what you have different flowers in your main evo
0 likesChangling, i forgot you where a changling
0 likesi only know my alicorn princces lunar
0 likesI think that is candances mum
0 likesFlurry face
0 likesit is her mother
0 likesWhat affects Cadence mom
0 likesIts the mom
0 likesWhat if it is celastia or luna is it but if it is luna celastei safe's luna from the spell or luna safe's celastia
0 likesWe love you
0 likesSomeone we don't know
0 likesIt's probably Little chrysalis
0 likesAren't you BronyNation? Or something?
1 like그럴듯한 이유들이 밚아요!진짜 당신 말이 맞으면 당신은 마이리틀포니 탐정 고수곱하기 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000!!!!!!!!!!!!!와우!
0 likesso i dont think i get how pony genetics work but pumpkin cake is a unicorn and pound cake is a pegasis but mr. cake and mrs. cake are earth ponies do explain please
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maybe they were recessive traits?
0 likesmaybeeeeeeeeeeeee?
0 likesI think is ms cheerlie maby she have a secret live
0 likesMake a how discord was Groar
0 likesawesome cool
0 likes🏖🏖🏖🏖🏖🏖🏖🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄
1 like@SawtoothWaves are you a girl now?
0 likes🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
1 likeprincess ember
0 likesIs celestia and luna even married because celestia is over 1000 years old
0 likesCelestia and Luna and princess cadence have the
0 likesAre you a changeling?
1 likegasp
0 likesWhy only female’s alicorn
0 likes♀️♀️♀️♀️♀️
1 likeIt is cadence
0 likesi like this vid
0 likesomg me field only now that the video came out on my birth day
0 likesI know sunsets element it’s hope
0 likesWait you transform like a changeling 😮😮😮😮😱😮😱😱😱
0 likesCaden sister
0 likesit can't be one we know just look at the hair
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hair styles can change and grow over time. twilight gets flow-ey hair in the future
0 likesU forgot flurry face
0 likesI didn't understand everything he said-
0 likesIt have to be someone else becase cadance is allready meride to shining Armor so it has to be some pony and pleas she has a Baby and the father is shining Armor so some pony else
1 likeЖаль что я не знаю английский 😭
0 likesWait who or were is the other sibling of luna and celestia because if that was her niece and that one is her nephew there related and we don’t see luna having kids
0 likes🦄
0 likesthat isn't cadence that is an other alicorn princess
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There are no other alicorn princesses. The one in the book was the result of an animation error.
0 likesI am a big fan
0 likesWell if you can make another video and tell me your name this one video has 10 likes I just give it this number 11
0 likesI think its flurry heart
0 likes😕😑😯
What happened in the outro?
0 likesWow🤔
0 likesCadence mom
0 likesAre you a changeling?
0 likesAlicorns are immortal dummy
0 likesDerby cadence can you say mother mother
0 likesYou dont not jet bro prinzess Amore is the mother of cadence
0 likesShe is cadance
0 likesluna has a son
0 likesHey sawtooth I have a theory: going back to that one video you did about if there's other alicorns well there is! The point is you did get all the alicorns twilight,flurry heart,candence,celestia,and Luna but you forgot some when you talked about if there were more alicorns you forgot to mention the bad ones and I'm not talking about day breaker or nightmare moon or any other good unicorns that turned bad infact were not talking about any bad alicorns or are we? There is one that is an alicorn but is already bad queen Chrisalys she is an alicorn just a queen she does have wings and a horn hence the word alicorn (if you split it it's all icorn) but she's a changling with horns and wings so she is still an alicorn so let's see twilight,flurry,candence,celestia,and Luna and the 6 queen Chrisalys but let's take a step back Luna and celestia both had parents if you look up celestia's mom this alicorn name queen Galaxia will pop up and if you search up Lunas dad this MALE and yes I said male alicorn need king cosmos will pop up
0 likesAnd Chrisalys must have been the 3rd ruler before she turned evil I think it's like this: A long time ago there were 3 rulers (the 3 others we don't know) there names were galaxia,cosmos,and chrysalis they were adored by all until one day comos and galaxia were in love and Chrisalys was getting all the glory and she loved it so she made a love poison and gave it to galaxia and cosmos they drank and fell under the spell and we're unable to complete there tasks. Until one day when starsworld a birded knew what was going on and created saw a note he read it and placed it in a book and was able to keep them apart long enough to break the spell.then cosmos proposed to galaxia and a few years later she had 2 fillys named celestia and Luna and they all loved and adored them but Chrisalys was not having it she turned evil and tried to ruled the kingdom but cosmos and galaxia banished her. So yeah that about sums it up we still don't know about the 3 other rulers I think there lost in history
But hey that was just a theory a mlp theory (my brain is burnt 😵)
Rainbow dash is 21 year old in pinkie pride count the candles on rainbows cake at song at of the episode
1 likeU:The first line
0 likesMe: :0
Episode?
0 likesI tink it's cadanst
0 likesYou shode have made this thery in valintimes day XD to make it more of a joke i hope u have a nice day btw grate theries
0 likesOh if cadence was in the book that was shining armour is the care because there’s never a king except for with King the Sombra before but why want to be like that I think that was before was
0 likeswow, tire tho
0 likesI meant earth ponies
0 likeswhhat's star swirl's cutie mark
0 likesMaybe cadance’s Aunty
0 likesWhat about twilight
0 likes🦊
0 likesPonme videos de My Love For The Chocolate Mami ocultar bueno ahí
1 likeme HAY MAYBE ITS THE LOST CRISTEL PRINCESS!!!!!!!! Bru your over thinking it theres a lost cristel princess and that maybe blue blud was the prince get it prince blue blud?
0 likescan make a video from prinses amore
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I love Princess Cadence because my name is Cadence see my profile
0 likesTwilight
1 likeWhat if it is chrysalis she my have been good A while before and the prinenes stuff that she thinks gain up love
0 likesPrincess galaxya
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0 likesdiffrent power,s can chang a pony
0 likes3:39 it would also explain the severe lack of Alicorns by the beginning of the show.
2 likesWe've seen the non-Alicorn royals of Equestria and they're so stuck up and expectant of praise, they do nothing to actually earn such praise, thus leading to the Snobby Elites, ponies who may indeed be royalty by birth, but do not become Alicorns due to giving their subjects literally no reason to praise them and therefore not expose them to enough magic from all 3 tribes to caused an Alicorn transformation
maybe this is just my particular interests showing through but I would love more theories on the politics of how noble houses converged as Equestria industrialized and centralized. But then I have this sort of fascination with the transition from feudalism to mercantile capitalism
2 likesSawtooth with a flower in his mane is adorable 😊
2 likesI'm so glad someone could answer a possible explanation on how prince blue blood is related to princess Celestia and princess Luna. It's a theory but it's closer then I ever got. Thanks for mentioning him 🥰
1 likeI have a sort of multi-generational question/theory, we know that by the time of G5 beginning (which is still set in G4s Equestria but some time in the future apparently) magic has disappeared (I guess the main characters will do something in the movie what'll restore it and get their cutie marks in the process), I've often wondered/theorised whether or not that all the generations were not only set within the same universe but also on the same word as G4 with only a vast amount of time separating each era/gen and much of pony history of those had been lost, forgotten and barely even forgotten legend by the 'ancient' times of G4 & before Equestria was founded, I've read somewhere It's has been suggested by some G4s original Grogar might have actually been literally the original G1Grogar... Anyway, if the same world-multi-generational theory is true and this ties in the magic of Equestria disappearing, is it possible that even as far G4 (or even back as far G3 maybe) magic was already vanishing and not just Equestrian magic but form the whole Pony World... however no one noticed because there was so much magic concentrated in Equestria, particularly with the Alicorn & Unicorn ponies? (I wonder, which gen is the highest-ranking, not in popularity but in terms of magical ability & accessibility, etc..?)
1 likeI'm on the 'temporary alicorn' wagon, but I can't chose from 'royal-born' or 'fake transformation'. A princess with an ego would especially try to forcibly change her form without understanding the costs and repercussions which could further lead her nation to ruin.
0 likesIf being a ruler with a close relationship with ponies of all races can cause one to become an alicorn, then the revus should be true as well. Leaving the heavy work to Celestia and Luna is not only going to physically cut royal ponies off from the magic of all races but emotionally as well which is necessary to activate the true power of an alicorn.
I think the mystery alicorn being Cadance's mother (or great/grandmother perhaps?) makes perfect sense, considering Cadance's love powers as well as the flashbacks in "A Canterlot Wedding". When we see her foalsitting Twilight, she doesn't look much older than Twilight herself. Then by the time of the wedding, she's full-grown. Which means if she were the princess from "a long time ago", she would have been a foal at the time (ewww) and then somehow stayed young all that time until suddenly growing up at the same rate as regular-pony Shining Armor. Much more likely is that the princess was her mother/relative and Cadance herself was born just recently.
0 likesI personally believe that one of the 'lost alicorns' would have been Star Catcher from G3. The way she had power over the wind and the ability to let others fly with her, and the fact that we see multiple spells in G4 that allow earth ponies and unicorns to walk on clouds the same way Star Catcher did for Sky Wishes who she later taught how to use that spell to dance in the sky with her friends. Even though Star Catcher was a pegasus she was uniquely designed with markings that honestly remind me of cadence so i think maybe she was related to Cadence since Star Catcher was a pony with the power to grant wishes. Which based on your theory would've been a great reason for a Stallion to seek her out as a bride.
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Ohhhhhhhh myyyyyy godddddd connectionsss!!
0 likesif the other stories are cannon, then we know that cadence is related to the previous ruler of the crystal empire which adds up hence explaining why the heartswarming story princess is an alicorn and related to the previous crystal empire ruler.
1 likeYears ago, I read a headcanon made by InkRose about Crysalis being the alicorn in the book. It kinda perfectly solves your 'dead end'
0 likesheres the thing: if the mystery alicorn isnt one of the four alicorns, we confirmed the existence of another alicorn. if it is, then we get a huge piece of backstory for one of the 3. and given the context, it would likely be cadence. so either way, this is a pretty big thing were talking about
0 likesI think that being an alicorn was a symbol of high status simply because having both wings and a horn would be stuff of legend, and having both surely meant you had a lot of power. The illustration in the hearts and hooves day origin book could just be a way to represent the princess as a very powerful, almost godlike individual. But this doesn't really help the theory and its probably not true lol
0 likesOne thing ive always wondered about what with the enchanted comic in season 4 that Spike had. Was that another universe that was fixed, and if so would your theory of Starlights multiple universes end up as comics too. I would love for you too look into this if you'd want. :)
0 likesHow certain are we that the two alicorn silhouettes in the Crystal Empire's backstory were Celestia and Luna? One of the fighter falling in the battle kinda makes sense.
0 likesAs for all the royals....... Harshwhinny listed off quite a list of titles usually associated with top levels of government. Perhaps Equestria is something of a loose federation with Celestia being both the head of the kingdom of Canterlot (which likely but not necessarily includes Ponyville) and the head of state for the body of Equestria. This also would explain why the map set a mission in the Griffin Kingdom as well as the various Griffins present at things like the Equestria games, the Friendship Summit, and Dash's flight camp. Those lands are part of Equestria but due to non-intervention clauses (a must if the separate original tribes were going to work together) no governmental intervention was possible and due to self isolation may not have even been known was needed.
The story said their kingdoms fell because they were so lost in each other's eyes they weren't ruling; that might have cost the princess her alicorn form.
0 likesWell if you remember from that episode the kingdom of that Princess and Prince crumbled because they were lost in each others eyes and were unable to do their royal duties. If we take that into account if they never looked away from each other they could have starved or been killed by invaders from another kingdom who ceased the opportunity to grow in power
0 likesConsider this:
0 likesIf Cadence were the child of the prince and alicorn princess, she might’ve been neglected by her parents who were just too busy staring into each other’s eyes, so maybe her mother was stripped of her wings/horn and Cadence was put up for adoption. There she would actually be cared for. Maybe Celestia and Luna had adopted Cadence’s parents (as adopted siblings, doesn’t mean they became alicorns tho) which would make Cadence their adopted niece. Maybe Blueblood is a descendant of Cadence’s adoptive parents which would also explain how he’s Celestia and Luna’s nephew.
As far as other possible alicorns missing, maybe they hide among the population in disguise. As far as I can see, although not immortal, they do seem to be ageless, so there is most likely some more out there somewhere. Ruling for hundreds or thousands of years would be tiring and they would want to pass the mantle to someone else at some point, just like the sisters did.
0 likesIf I was an alicorn who recently retired, I would most likely disguise myself as a regular pony to enjoy my retirement with neither the paparazzi or fellow royalty seeking me every other day. Of course, the requirement to keeping hidden would be that I will need to change the disguise and move every several years to prevent others from realizing that I didn't age, but it would be possible.
Okay okay! I love this theory... but I wanna add a bit.
0 likesMaybe what happened to the other Alicorns happened during the attacks on equestria (ie. Discord, Sombra, etc.) This is supported by the fact that the crystal ponies seemed to see Cadence as their princess despite not knowing who she really was.
Maybe Cadence's mother was the princess of the crystal empire, but after the prince used a spell on her, they became to infatuated to realize there even WAS a danger.
We didn't get told what kingdom fell to ruins in the story, so it could have been the crystal empire. Cadence was saved by factor of not being an alicorn yet and still being a baby, too young to know what was going on.
Celestia and Luna could have saved her before the empire vanished.
I imagine other threats are also why the other Alicorns are... missing.
The love of the world in the story is peace and I've been looking at that and I solved it.
2 likesI think by knowing the prince we may know who the alicorn princess is.
0 likesFrom what we learnt of Equestria's history after the defeat of wendigos they became united. Going back to the play they actually used a flag with the two sisters instead of sth else. I guess that means alicorns did exist when they were enemies but they were hardly seen. Becoming an alicorn means you get magic from all three types but to do that you need to cast a special magic or spell. Seeing that he needed to craft a love "potion" I think it was before the union. A kingdom was already being led by an alicorn. To sum it up: They are for more than thousand years ago, so they can't have anything to do with Cadence.
Cadence's past might be a mystery but alicorn foals are no different than pegassi, earth ponies or unicorns. She may have accindentally found this love poisen spell in a book and decided to fix it. Since she turned it into a seemingly perfect love spell she became an alicorn. As far as I know she was an orphan until Celestia saw her potential and kept her close.
Sorry if my useless bantering bored anyone who read this.😅
Edit: The love poisen may lose it's effect after one of the couples passing. The earth ponies unlike alicorns aren't immortals. Since they neglected their kindom a certain someone may have attacked and caused it to disappear. They may have been the rulers of Crystal empire. Sombra either killed them both or killed the prince and the princess crafted the heart to have it charged by true love and hold off Sombra but ended up killed or ran away and alerted the princesses Tia and Luna.
Or she may have been for the time before the two sisters and was killed.
Though my question is why Shining Armor isn’t an alicorn, though again, my explanation is he doesn’t want to become one because becoming an alicorn would make him look girly.
0 likesBut as they said : A birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen
1 likeAnd that explains why King Sombra could have been an alicorn, and he could have still wanted his power when the two sisters came along, etc.
0 likesThe idea that the alicorn princess in that book may be Cadance's (or even Blueblood's) mother or ancestor sounds like a very possible idea. Also there were recent saying that I guess confirm that alicorns are not immortal and instead they are just very slow aging maybe due to their magic. I think that saying was "Twilight will not outlive her friends." Which may confirm that alicorns can have their live taken away in similar ways in how any other creature in the MLP FIM world can.
0 likesTwilight did a spell as well that made every pony love the teddy bear she had.
0 likesI have some questions for you to do videos on.
0 likesIf Alicorns re slow to age t what speed will Flurry Heart grow compared to the Cake Twins?
Who will the CMC and other current foals marry and what profession will they do as adults?
What would Cozy Glow be up to if she was Human, had no one to stop her , and waited until her teen years to act out her long term plan?
Will the main six and Huan six marry different people? Will they there for have different children?
does every one have a pony and human counterpart? fo so where re they? if not why not? and if yes are they always the same morality?
Can Half breads exist? meaning Dragon/ Pony, Dragon Gryphon, Chngling/Yack etc
can some one be alive in one world and dead in n other between pony and humans
if Discord has children what would they look like ? Does he even reproduce the normal way?
Who used the CMC tree house before them and who will use it after them?
Why did we never see Babs Seed in the background of the Manehaten episodes?
If Sunset had never left Equestria would she have been redeemed, would she have befriended and aided one of the other villains or gone in some other direction?
Can the Map summon you to the human world?
how does age, gender and species effect the main cast? what plots would change if we changed one of those factors?
How many Fan head canons have been proven, disproven or left unanswered and how likely are the unanswered ones?
and what happened to all the bronies? are they still in the fandom? why aren't they on Youtube?
These are all questions I have explored with fan art (Except maybe the last two which I have asked elsewhere before. )
I'm not sure it was ever settled that Alicorns as a whole have longer lives, or if that was something peculiar to the two sisters. It could be the others lived more normal lifespans and passed away when their time came. It could also be that the mare originally wasn't an Alicorn, but given the strong association of Alicorns with Princesses, the artist, possibly from a later time, just drew a fantasy couple, and made the Princess an Alicorn?
0 likesWhat if it's actually flurry heart? Time travel is shown to exist which could explain how the story became known by everyone and would explain the unknown story of what flurry's significance in the series really is!
0 likesBit of a thing you could tie in is when said previous rulers started to let industsriliation though all three tribes got angry and lost their way aka the hearts warming eve story. and just like Sombra perhaps becuse of the three tribes anger the previous alicorns lost their power. We also know that Starswirl was in the Hearts warming eve story because clove of the clever mentioned him perhaps after the tribes united Starswirl knew the tribes needed a royalty figure for ruling hence Luna and Celestia coming into power. Idk just a theory feel free to bounce ideas off of this though
0 likesLosing their powers would have been 'heart' breaking for them.
0 likesIt'd be funny if the princess wasn't an alicorn at all. The cultural shift to associating royalty to alicornhood is present because of Celestia and Luna, so it's totally possible that the depictions of the princess changed over time to suit the changing picture of what Equestrian royalty looks like.
0 likesHmm... You know what?
1 likeI'm not sure I exactly subscribe to this headcanon myself, but I figured I'd put it out there.
What if it were Chrysalis?
This is pulling from the comics--which, I admittedly have very limited knowledge of, so bear with me. In the arc with the portal into the alternate dimension where everything is basically backwards--royal sisters are evil, Sombra is a kind and just leader, etc--we see Chrysalis and she looks totally different. But, the way that she looks different doesn't align with our current knowledge of changelings at all--if this is a world in which everything is backwards, wouldn't she look more like a reformed changeling? I've seen speculation that Chrysalis was the lost princess of the Crystal Empire, that something happened to her to change her species and lead to the creation of changelings as a whole--I can't remember who this theory comes from, or if I'm pulling from multiple at once, so apologies! But if so... What if that version of Chrysalis we see in that arc of the comics is Chrysalis before all that happened? Better yet... What if the event with the love potion is what caused all that to happen? I mean, changelings have a massive tie to love--they feed off of it, they need it to survive. And this could explain why there's allusion to an alicorn in history that we've never heard of before--she was an alicorn, just... Well... Isn't really a pony anymore.
Again, I'm not sure if I subscribe to this myself, and your theory probably makes more sense. I just figured I'd put it out there since it popped into my head after watching this video and seeing an image of alternate universe Chrysalis! Love your videos dude, it makes me super happy to see people continue to make MLP content and bring new ideas to the table even after the series has ended <3
Well.. there couldn't have been royal kingdoms before celestia and Luna because it's clearly mentioned that ponies were seperated as tribes.. and their leaders weren't alicorns, they were a pony of their tribe.🤔
1 likeTo be honest, there's nothing that indicates that it has to be a story about two equestrian rulers. It could have been two rulers from outside of Equestria
0 likesWait, what if the alicorn in the story is Princess Amore? Amore means love in Italian and that was kind of her destiny in a way...to be influenced by a love spell
0 likesThe alicorn could be the princess of crystal empire, because when Candence was Flying with the Crystal Heart One pony said "The crystal princess" and those ponies, they were there for ages. And, the Crystal empire could have been taken by the King Sombra because of the love spell, because the royalty was not there.
0 likesTheory
0 likesWhat if all the other rulers step back because of what happened to Luna?
There was a fear that because Luna was changed because of her jealousy/despair that other alicorns might fall into the same fate?
So they were disbanded and Celestia was left to be the one true ruler?
Maybe this is why cadence was just a babysitter before Luna made her return?
Is it just me, or is it noticeable that in the picture, the princess is an alicorn? I mean, if you look closely, you can see wings and of course, the horn. Maybe that is Cadence's mother, since, they both have the same powers. I think it links up.
0 likesIf I could venture a guess, I would say that that alicorn would probably be somepony that wasn’t made aware to us and I would also say that it might even be one of the ponies that was brought to light in the play representing the beginning of Equestria
0 likesOk here my thing. I don't consider the crystal heart spell thing cannon but I'll take a few ideas. The princess and prince depicted in the book are cadence's parents. They get put under the love potion while the rule the crystal empire, and sombra realizes that he can use their weakness to conquer the empire. Cadence a young foal barely escapes the edge of where the crystal empire. She is found by the earthpoines who adopt her. Eventually she meets Celestia because she is a alicorn. Even though she seems to be rather young when she foalsits twilight I'm guessing that alicorns grow very slowly so they can stay somewhat immortal. Her parents were killed or banished by sombra when he took over the empire and Celestia didn't know they had a kid until she meets cadence when she puts two and two together. This is why she has the Crystal Heart as a cutie mark despite not getting until after the empire disappears. Because cutie marks aren't always perfectly literall to how they got them. When the crystal empire returns that's why Celestia knows to send her. Additionally this is supported by the fact that a crystal pony knows she is "the crystal princess" because they saw her as a baby. Because otherwise how would they know that with such certainty? Ok that is my thoughts.
0 likesEdit: I know "the birth of an alicorn is something Equestria has never seen" but maybe there was a miscommunication between Cadence and Celestia and Celestia believed she was born a Pegasus and earned her horn later before she met Celestia. Because Celestia didn't believe it was possible to be born an alicorn and Cadence was too young to tell her otherwise.
The alicorn could be Princess Amore from the IDW comics she was the first princess of The Crystal empire. She could be an Ancestor of Cadence.
0 likesIf I remember correct, there is actually an alicorn princess on the crystal empire's jar in season6 ep1 too. Sorry if I'm wrong.😅
0 likesHave you ever considered making your own Discord server Sawtooth?
0 likesWe’re crystal ponies alicorns once?
1 likeOn the vase you see a lot of unicorns and multiple alicorns
I like how he never takes into account it might be an animation error XD
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Ohh u mean the fact it’s and alicorn nah there’s no mistakes in mlp jk 😂
0 likesI have an idea. What if they were the royals of the crystal empire before cadence. They are pretty much the only royals that we have heard of over 1000 years.
0 likesThen if she was their daughter, wouldn't she be like Voldemort?
0 likesAnd wouldn't she have been born an alicorn?
The unknown Alicorn is the Crystal heart queen that would be Cadence's mom.
0 likesIf there really were multiple alicorns and royal families then maybe when princess Celestia and Luna started being the main focus and rulers of Equestria after awhile then the other alicorns could've decided that they should have their powers or magic taken away as there was no point in keeping them and that's why there aren't any other known alicorns other than Celestia, Luna, Cadence, Flurry Heart, and Twilight.
0 likesI heard about theory that the princess in the story was actually chrysalis, and because of the potion she forgot about her kingdom and that's why it was ruined. I really like this theory maybe it has something to it
0 likesHey, here's a question I'd like to get your opinion on:
0 likesCelestia.
Chickens.
What's up with that?
(See "Between Dark and Dawn" for reference.)
Anyone know why when he lists his alicorn patreons he always says "Syannax and Farefallen" with a disappointed voice?
0 likesI think your on the right track. I kinda thought the same that they can be cadence's parents. And I love your videos. You are 1000000000000IQ about my little pony. ❤🎀
0 likesSo Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s nephew, and Princess Cadence is Celestia’s niece. But Celestia doesn’t have any other siblings other than Luna that we know of. So either Blueblood is Luna’s son and Cadence is Luna’s daughter, or they’re the offspring of another sibling of Celestia and Luna.
0 likesThis theory kinda explains the presence of princess skylar, princess sterling and princess gold lily, Léon, and the alicorn statue in "Castle mane-ia". However, there's a certain comic character that this theory brought back to my mind. Queen parabola. If you don't know, Queen Parabola is a pre-equestrian alicorn. Before celestia and luna. I know the comics aren't exactly canon, but where does she fit into this theory?
0 likesit also shows why flurry is a alicorn,its a line of born alicorns,cadences mother is a alicorn,cadence born alicorn,and flurry is a born alicorn
0 likesYou pointed out that we don't know how old Cadance is. But that's true for every pony and creature in MLP. The only indicators of age that we actually have is that Celestia and Luna have to be over 1000 years old, that Celestia specifically has to be over 1,111 years old, and that if the number of candles is to be believed, Rainbow Dash turns 21 in Pinkie Pride.
0 likesAs for the princess in that story, we don't actually know if she was actually an alicorn in the first place. We just know that that artist's rendition of her was an alicorn.
As for Prince Blueblood, he's only a prince because he's actually related to Celestia by blood. He's distantly related, but if you go back far enough, Blueblood's lineage can be traced back to Celestia. Cadance wasn't born an alicorn. But interestingly enough, she is descended from a royal family. She's the descendant of Princess Amore, the true ruler of the Crystal Empire before King Sombra usurped the throne. And Princess Amore was a unicorn, not an alicorn. And unlike Blueblood, who's actually related to Celestia by blood, Cadance's relationship with Celestia is through adoption.
though, Celestia and Luna remark they have never seen an alicorn be born before (other than flurry) ((unless Cadance is assumed to be born a pegasus))
0 likesHas anyone noticed that there's an alicorn on season 8 episode 5 that's not one of the main ones it's just a random dude directing a hot air balloon
1 likeOkay but hear me out
0 likesCHRISALIS ORIGIN STORY
Christalis likely had to deal with the effects of love poison as a younger princess, and went on to raise a child. Unfortunatly, even if the two were able to eek out a survivable life style under the effects of the poison, ponies don't live forever. The prince died, leaving Chrisalis in an emotionally destroyed state.
Because of this, the alicorn came to reject love, and moved to destroy it, even if she was dependant on it to survive. She passed this on to her children, of which she had many, and over time became more and more broken.
This makes Christalis's encounter with the CMC even harder on her, because these young foolish ponies are constantly reminding her of the trauma buried deep within her mind.
That what I said. That Alicorn could’ve been Cadance mother or related.
0 likesPrincess Cadence was Pegasus so is dad Pegasus while mom was alicorn or could be very Great great sometimes granddaughter.
0 likesBlue-blood is a very distant nephew of Celestia but she just calls him nephew
So Cadence would be the same as that as well blueblood.
We can still have a possibility to see this in season 10 which is in comic book form
0 likesThere is a society of alicorns, born and raised. Maybe the prince fell for an alicorn from this alicorn society...the princess alicorn from the same society princess Celestia and princess Luna came from. Perhaps this alicorn and this earth/pegasus had a union which spawned Cadence. That would fit if the prince was a pegasus, because Cadence was born a pegasus.
0 likesIt turns out that there IS a third royal sister (or brother)! Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s Nephew meaning that either Luna had a son or that there is a third sister (or brother) who is this long lost sibling and where are they now?
0 likesIt turns out that there IS a third royal sister (or brother)! Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s Nephew meaning that either Luna had a son or that there is a third sister (or brother) who is this long lost sibling and where are they now?
0 likesIt turns out that there IS a third royal sister (or brother)! Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s Nephew meaning that either Luna had a son or that there is a third sister (or brother) who is this long lost sibling and where are they now?
0 likesIt turns out that there IS a third royal sister (or brother)! Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s Nephew meaning that either Luna had a son or that there is a third sister (or brother) who is this long lost sibling and where are they now?
0 likesIt turns out that there IS a third royal sister (or brother)! Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s Nephew meaning that either Luna had a son or that there is a third sister (or brother) who is this long lost sibling and where are they now?
0 likesIt turns out that there IS a third royal sister (or brother)! Prince Blueblood is Celestia’s Nephew meaning that either Luna had a son or that there is a third sister (or brother) who is this long lost sibling and where are they now?
0 likesIn my little pony equestria girls the previous professor of Crystal high she could be the mother of cadence in the pony world and lost her alicorn magic
1 likeP.S. I love your video's
Hey in one of your videos you had said that celstia and Luna were naturals so their hair was wavy and cadence and twilight were artificial so they did not have wavy hair, but in the future twilight had wavy hair! Please explain this
0 likesI think it’s the pony who made the Alicorn amulet, turning into a normal pony and dieing of old age.
0 likesIF YOU WATCH THE ONE EPISODE WHERE THEY GO TO THE CRYSTAL KINGDOM FOR THE GAMES YOU SEE LIKE 6 OTHER ROYAL FAMILIES!!! PLEASE ADDRESS THIS!
0 likesmaybe cadance's mom's was the crystal empire empress and after that sombra took over maybe her name was crystal flower
0 likesI have read a mlp comic book and I learn if the old crystal Princess Amora so could be her.
1 likeFlurry Heart is the only BORN Alicorn, thus your assumption is wrong, they said it themselves. And what about the play in Heart's warming eve; Rarity played a royal part but she wasn't an alicorn.
0 likesWhat if that alicorn was Chrysalis... It would explain the changelings magic too
0 likesalright so heres what i think, and buckle down cus i have a tendency to ramble
0 likesbefore equestria was founded, and before the tribes were split up, there was a kingdom that was ruled by "princess heartsong" as ill be calling her and her family. with other royal families handling more localised politics of a region (kinda like how in the usa theres a president and congress, but theres also state governers and city mayors). now heartsong had only recently been passed on the crown and appointed the ultimate leader of the kingdom, and at her first conference who sees and falls in love with her at first sight? the very prince in the hearts and hooves day story. as time went on he bribed various mages to work on a love potion, which he then gave to the princess and to himself under the pretense of a private diplomatical dinner. yada yada they "fall in love" and the kingdom collapses. after the kingdom collapsed a lot of ponies blamed unicorns for the magic that had torn the kingdom down, unicorns blamed the earth ponies, for not taking responsibility of the prince who had been the very same as them. pegasi tried to keep the peace for a short while until both unicorns and earth ponies deemed them brutes for trying to intervene by forcibly seperating those who had been fighting. times goes on and the tribes grow distant, only interacting when nessecary. and along comes the windagos woop dee doo dah! and the rest is history.
Even Blueblood could be that heart and hooves couple's offspring...he does have the pushy and manipulative nature of someone that would make a love potion, somewhat atleast😂
0 likesAs for Cadence...well, there's the Crystal Heart Spell and Princess Mi Amore in the Crystal Empire from the Journal Of The Two Sisters...*perhaps her mom was the alicorn in the spell and the ruler of the crystal empire (Princess Mi Amore), after the love spell "her kingdom fell" which led to King Sombra and the eventual disappearance of the entire empire. But when the ponies were fleeing during the sister's battle with him, baby cadence may have escaped before his curse and been found in the woods!!!!*
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As for Cadence...well, there's the Crystal Heart Spell and Princess Mi Amore in the Crystal Empire from the Journal Of The Two Sisters...
0 likesWAIT!!!! perhaps her mom was the alicorn in the spell and the ruler of the crystal empire (Princess Mi Amore), after the love spell "her kingdom fell" which led to King Sombra and the eventual disappearance of the entire empire. But when the ponies were fleeing during the sisters battle with him, baby cadence may have escaped before his curse and been found in the woods!!!!
Lmao, that would also explain Flurry Heart!! Cadence had the Alicorn gene in her from her mom and herself during her transformation (bcuz the empire's disappearance led to the disappearance of her horn), so out of luck (and maybe the sheer strength of Shining Amour's magic+Cadence's initial form as a pegasus) Flurry was born an alicorn
0 likeswow, I went full on out🤣
Sawtooth's vid rlly evoke some very creative thinking🤣🤣
You become an Alicorn by Creating New Magic just like Twilight, she created FrIeNdsHiP so if Cadance's Mother is an Alicorn ..what magic does she have??
0 likesHello, I am a new follower for about 2 weeks I am Spanish-speaking (I am writing it with the google translator :v) and with my little English that I have, I loved your channel, good luck! :3
1 like2:50 where are the other alicorns and why have we never heard of them? 3:06 bingo 4:07 double bingo
0 likesGuess Sawtooth looks his weirdest through the portal weirder than his changeling look
0 likesbut we didn't see the princess's wings in the story, so what if she was just like prince blueblood, given the title of prince or princess but doesn't have any wings.
0 likesWhat hold up Blue Blood is Celestia and Luna’s nephew? That means there’s another royal sibling because Luna’s not his mother.
0 likesThough I think it’s Luna because Clestia has one sister and Cadence is a crystal pony maybe the story of the hearts and hooves thing could be from the crystal empire because they have the crystal heart a pony could have used the crystal heart to make the spell and to make cadence a alicorn with the 2 lovers. Blue blood looks like Luna the father of blue blood is a mystery. Well that’s my theory XD
1 likeI come back here after 2 years and your quality hasn't changed? Still awsome!
0 likesPlease explain the origin of the portals!!
0 likesSAW TOOTH look adorable with a flower in his head
0 likesOH MY GOSH!! If Blueblood is Celestia’s nephew who is Celestia’s daughter and who is Celestia’s husband?!?!?!
0 likesi want male alicorn :< if every of alicorn represent some kind of love (Celestia god like, Luna mother care, Candance romantic, T
0 likeswiligh- frendship and fluury-kid's love to the world) i like to have male alicorn with farther-teacher-love tipe
It could be another princess look back at the two sister castle there are 3 stained Windows one sun another moon but what does the middle one represent?
0 likesMabey the crystal place and the first Queen in crystal empirer could be in the book and that could mean the king who tried to rool the crystal empireer could be Kadeins dad and the first queen in the crystal empirer could be a Alicorn and could also be Kadeins mom
0 likesI still think it’s Queen Mi Amore. Btw I am so happy that this video is based off of my comment last video. Keep up the good work
0 likesThen again that alicorn can be princess Lauren.
0 likesWell all this might be true but in the Crystal heart spell cadence was all alone with no mother
0 likesOooo 🤔 that actually makes sense.
0 likesWhat if some had moved beyond equestria ? *Edit: the evil guy that traded ponies in mlp the movie knew what twilight was, if I remember correctly.
heres my last comment on this one. this one puzzled me so that means u did good saw. i hope what i figure out on ur vids helps u get closer with theories. also sorry for busting your theory's. Bro hoof?
0 likesMaybe the alicorn was Cadence's mom
0 likesYay you took my idea! It has to be her mother!?
1 likeits her mother totally what was in her mother that was love passed to her daughter or maybe cadence is the sister of that story princess so it is going to take alot of time to discover there mother
0 likesWhat if the princess is Chrystals ?
0 likesWasn’t Cadence born as a Pegasus though?
0 likesComics mentioned Princess Amore as another alicorn
0 likeswhat if prince blueblood is the stallion in the book and cadence is the alicorn, but seeing Big Mac and Cheerilee after the love poison, they didnt turn out well, so maybe somepony broke the curse and cadence and prince blueblood are now.. exes? like how Big Mac is with Sugar Belle now and not Cheerilee (i forgot how to spell her name aaa)
0 likes1:36 well this may be posible princes cilestyia said (when flurry was born) she had said she has seen nothing like this hence this not working out
0 likesi love the backround thats all i need to say and the secret ailcorn princess could be princess armor...i makes sense i guss.pls no reply. THANKS!
1 likeShe might show up in gen 5
0 likesWhat about the Crystal Princess BEFORE Cadence!
0 likeswell, maybe not cannon but in the comics i remember to read of Celestia's cousin :V
0 likesOk i hope you veiw this, I was watching the canterlot wedding again and I paused it to go get a snack, and I read the description and it said: Twilight is confused by her conflicting feelings when she finds out that her brother, shining armor, is going to be married to CELESTIAS NEICE MI AMORE'S aperance Princess celestia only has ONE sister Princess luna, So who's kid is cadence?
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Me: continues watching Oh well they think its a old Royale Family
0 likesMaybe it was Twilights secret parent's and she was adopted or who knows maybe her brother just didn't remember so that's why it never came up or he didn't remember or Luna or Tia's mom
0 likesSawtooth: Alicorn video's
0 likesMe: You forgot about the video "Are there other alicorns?"
So if Cadence was born as an alicorn then she is the first pony to be born as an alicorn not flurry so the royal sisters are lying when they said the birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen they probably seen cadence born as an alicorn
0 likesGod please solve the mystory of equastria's history book
0 likesThay book is really confusing me
The book we all started, and all ended
I really miss my little pony
0 likesI think there's a sixth alicorn is cadence 's mother
0 likes0:52 her mother is princess Mi Amore (just like cadence's name) but she's not an Alicorn, she's a unicorn.. But before princess Celestia saw her princess Cadence is a pegasus.. How is that possible if her dad was a earth pony!?
0 likesI think its flurry heart s grandmother
0 likesI think it was cadence's mother
0 likesMaybe the alacorn is cadence mother or cadence grandmother 😅😅
0 likeswhat if it’s chrysalis but it’s before she became chrysalis
1 likeI don’t understand who is the prince and why do he wanna love poison her?
0 likesI do not even understand...
PLOT TWIST FLURRY HEART WAS THE PRINCESS IN THE BOOK AND IS CADENCE`S MOM
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She died but came back inside and in the form of flurry like a avatar or something!!!!!😱😂
0 likesEve said that Alicorns had magic of the three tribes.. then why didn't Starlight simer Boise Sunset glimmer I mean still like glimmer and Sunset Shimmer never mind why didn't Starlight glimmer or the other one become alicorns they are as powerful as Twilight and they are all unicorns
0 likesI wonder who that Alicorn is
0 likesSo. Do you wanna tell us how long that pointing pinkie png has been in your photo library?
0 likesHello brony notion i got a theory about scootaloo because when she grew up in the grand season finale we all see that scootaloo swings are still small is that mean she never flew her whole life i want you to investigate this theory i have and hopefully there's an answer to brony notion
0 likesCadens mother was an princess of the love
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She was the alicorn in the book
0 likesKing sambra is the third alcorn.
0 likesI think Prince blue blood is the Son of the prince and princesses in the Hearts and Hooves day story and cadence bother
0 likesMabey there was another Ali corn like like the ones that never made I into the show
0 likesAnd Luna and Celestia's parents were alicorn.
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Really?!
0 likesAND HOW DO CADANCE MOTHER LOOK LIKE!!
0 likesWhat if the red Equestria gem that supposed to be samba's gem is actually betrayed element just like Sunset Shimmer betrayed Equestria and is the forgiving an element just like in Equestria
0 likessounds like cadance was an accident :3
0 likesWhat if it is princess cadance mother that is Queen amore but younger?
0 likesPrincess Skyla or the golden pony lol
0 likesOr the hearts and hooves day story is just a story
0 likesIt looks true to me.
0 likesPrincess cadanse is the daughter of princess Amore
0 likesit cant be princess amore or it could be i mean ..its saidcadance was a pegasus and celestia made her princess of love fanarts say amore princess amore was her mom but you know i dont know
0 likesDoes anyone thinks that.. Tricksie has a brother??? Because on season 8 when rainbow dash really wanted to ride the wild blue yonder, before that.. The grannies were in a magic show with two magicians, the other one has The EXACT same color like Tricksie and their both Unicorns so, what do you guys think that Tricksie really HAD a brother?
0 likesWhat if There was a third sister
0 likesPrincess armore?!
1 likeOh wow who is she?
1 likeYa I know what happened?!?!🦄
0 likesI think it's cadence
0 likesI gotta ask why do you facepalm on certain names when naming patrons
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Cause he doesn't like them for some reason. It's true.
0 likesAber wenn es ein anderes alicorn gegeben hätte würde doch irgendjemand davon wissen oder es wäre ein Fenster im schloss alicorn
0 likesI have doubt of why zecora in equatoria girls
0 likesWhy don’t u try to find who is similar with caydends
1 likeWhy scootaloo wings so small until she gets older :/??
0 likeswhat if cadens mom is princess amore since she and cadencs have bothe beginings on a comic but its allsow that they bothe ruele the crystal empire ??????
0 likesCelestial and Luna mom and dad cadence mom
0 likesHi. Bro I know that this is not the video for this comment. But I just wandering that when starlight chenge the past and it effected in the present and Twilight has no friends. so why didn't she lose her wings. I mean that Twilight is afterall the princess of friendship. So this is obvious.that she should lose. her wings. and more importantly why didn't her city mark chenge I mean that if the rainboom didn't even happen in the past so what scared her in the entrance exam. of calestias school and in that exam she scared for the sound of the rainboom and blast the egg with her magic and then her city mark appears. So what happened. It makes no sence.😰🤕😭😭😭😭
0 likesAnd same goes for her friends so how did they get there cutie mark.
did there cutie mark chenge.why didn't she chenge even a little bit.🤔🤔🤔. Her friends chenge properly. so why didn't she. And please someone give me the answer.😭😭😭 goodbye.😇😇
Maybe its princess amore
1 likeWhat in the name of Discord happened at the end 0-0
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0 likesOk i think my lil pony is mad at u cuz u r discovering secrets and peep want to tell them and bother them about every vid u make and ask if it is true
0 likesDo what happend to applejacks parents
0 likesWhat if discord is Grogar after his rain
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Oh and what if there was a giant evil Pinky timeline
0 likesIt's celisty
0 likesbronies what do you think is it a natural phenomenon or reinbow desh shows us that my little ponies are real and that equestria is real look at these two pictures one is really taken and not photoshop in mumbai and the other is from my little pony so you estimate what hiding behind this amazing picture I have no words ... I really love my little pony https://alldatmatterz.com/uploads/2018/07/full-rainbow.jpg https://jaredandkyal.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/sonic_rainboom_s1e23.png
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I really love my little pony
0 likesI recon the princess in the story is cadence’s mother mainly because cadence looks like she is around twilights age when we first see her and the alicorn we see in the story looks nothing like cadence
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it does not look like her
0 likesIt doez look like a drawing.
Isn't princess Amore cadence mom????
0 likesIts cadence mother
0 likesI think you on to something.
1 likeIt’s kadancs mom
0 likesu telling me cadance was an accident?
0 likesPLLZZ do an amore vid!
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mi AMORE cadenza???
I think know candes mother but i don't her name.
0 likes....WHAT DID JUST HAPPEND IN THE ENDING OF THE VIDEO??!!
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No idea. And you did put her in the thumbnail OMG was that the portal!? We're finally gonna see what he looks like there
0 likesWhat if it’s crisalalis
0 likesMe watching you old vids
0 likesMy lovely couple more like a lovely not
1 likeHmmm interesting 🤔🤔
0 likesNice
0 likeswow
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0 likesI love your show?
0 likesInk rose speculatied that is was chrysalis
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that's so interesting, cause chrysalis somehow knew about the mines under canterlot castle that hadn't been used for years. both have an unhealthy relationship with love too, I'll have to look at her video
0 likesI AM KINDA EARLY BEST DAY EVER TODAY IS THE BEST DAY
0 likesbooks and comics
0 likesLuna is her mom so it is not
0 likesThis is the mlp mat pat
0 likesIt’s someone else
0 likesYou can not be a fan of this app if it is chroo
0 likesBaby babies that that Alicorn I said baby baby rat Alicorn is well you know Cadence but like oh like a long time ago and when they were full here has like in love with her but he wasn't a unicorn cuz you see no horn so he decided to like mix up a potion since you couldn't just grant one cuz he's out of unicorn to make to to get to her and he thought that he maybe the drink would Inspire her to like like her him her I'm not
0 likesHow do you block
0 likesNo I know what I think that’s princess some more if it’s not OK then I’m gonna remember not princess mall is different no pony from the pony I don’t know I thought like a princess so long I was like what cancels the first war
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0 likesShameless self promotion much? 😄
0 likesYeah i think so
1 likeIs dat de moeder van celestia en luna
0 likesMabye its the furst not knownd princess
0 likesPrincess skyla/j
0 likes🤔🤔🤔😂🤣
0 likesThe amount of emotion you out into your words is immaculate, I feel the story more with you as a narrator
1 likeI liked this theory. The latest theories helped me answer some questions. Flurry Heart ; Alicorns were never born, but only became, which is confirmed by the reaction of Celestia and Luna. So it becomes clear why a twilight light being an alicorn will not outlive its friends. She is just a pony with the magic of 3 types of ponies. Celestia and Luna are a different matter. Their long life becomes an anomaly. I don't have a good explanation for this, so I won't say anything.
1 likegreat video! I like the theory of the alicorn from the heart and hooves day being queen chrysalis before she was turned into a changeling by a curse or a powerful spell. To me, it makes sense as Changelings use to feed off love, but that's just my own thought on it
0 likesI’m so glad you’re still making MLP videos ♥️
1 likeExcitement level always jumps up whenever there’s something after the bro hoof 😁
0 likesAnd hey, does anyone have any theories to what sunset did after she entered the portal? Like wth she just finds a house to live in and never has a problem with her human counterpart???
That's a pretty interesting theory plus that could explain why a lot of ponies aren't very astonished by an alicorn (seriously if you look at all the times Twilight had to go outside of Ponyville most ponies were like "yeah this pony is totally like the others")
0 likesFor the other alicorns I have the hypothesis all the alicorns we saw in the background may not be animations error but instead be the other alicorns !
Then I have a question: in the storybook, that pony was an alicorn before the love potion, so she was an alicorn when she gave birth to Cadance. You have theorized before that no alicorn has ever given birth, that's why flurry heart was such a surprise. So, if cadence was birthed by an alicorn and turned out to be a normal pony, what is the reason for flurry heart being an alicorn? Will it just remain a mystery?
0 likesWell, with so many conflicts and hardships in Equestria's past, they may have passed from natural, non-age related causes, or been killed in a war or battle. The nation may have made something of a tradition where royalty of a certain caliber or who achieved something of significance to its development were made alicorns, much like Celestia and Luna.
0 likesDue to their powerful abilities and high status, however, they were most likely to lead a conflict or be targeted, and this may explain why the sisters are the last 'true' royals. Cadance may be the child of a fellow royal who, after stepping down from her throne due to the danger it posed to unborn Cadance, was killed or possibly died in childbirth, and as such Cadance was taken under Celestia's wing.
Hidden Alicorns could still exist, but I doubt they would be able to maintain the magic of all three tribes enough to keep their Alicorn magic. Plus, with all of the powerful villains Equestria has faced, who's to say they didn't try to step in before it got too bad, only to be killed? 🤔 Just a few thoughts, hope they make sense!
I have a theory of how this might have happened and it goes like this: "Once there was a beautiful Pegasus who was smart and kind, everypony loved her.At that time there was no one to rule that land and they were not sure what to do because with no ruler there was no order they needed some pony to fill that spot.So the Pegasus stepped forward and offered to become their new ruler.Everyone was so happy the tree ponys bowed down and all the happyness they felt flowed into her, and the magic of the three tribes flowed into her making her the first Alicorn.Then they realized that it might be hard for just her to rule so they chose a few more ponies to rule.They made an alicorn for each of the kingdoms.Soon the queens fell in love and had alicorn kids everyone was happy.Untill they saw another opportunity for a ruler so they made her a alicorn princess.But she was mad she did not want to be a princess so with her new powers she placed a curse.She made all alicorns dissapeer forever including herself and said that no alicorn baby shall ever be born again.But she was not all evil she knew what she did was wrong so she also put in:Years later 2 earth ponies shall become alicorns so they can keep peace.It was done all alicorns vanished forrever and the only sighn they ever exsisted was the curse that soon became a legand.But when the rulers dissapeered and there was no one to keep peace the three ponies fought for power and soon they formed the three tribes and went to war!Years later a unicorn was born a unicorn who loved to read his name was star swirl the legand of the allicorn was his favorite.Now this was still during the war and he grew up in that time too the legand was one thing that Kept him happy durring those hard times.Now soon the war was over and equestria was made and star swirl thought they needed rulers.And then he found them the two earth ponies of the legand Celestia and Luna.He introduced equestria to their new rulers and they joy they felt flowed into them they became alicorns.And I must sa y anothr thing the angry alicorns spell failed the only part that worked was vanishing al those alicorns.Soon Celestia found Cadance and made with the magic of the three tries she possesed she made her an alicorn!now years passed she made twilight an alicorn and then came flurry heart...Everypony was shoked because they thoght that part of the legand was true you now the part where no alicorn would be born and that was why everypony was shocked when one was" The end let me now your thoughts on my theory or if I guess fan fiction.
0 likesWell, we saw a few Alicorns in Equestria. Maybe those are the ones you’re talking about. Maybe they choose to do what they want to do. Some joined the royal Guards, other just took normal jobs, enjoying their life
0 likesMaybe there where a bunch of alicorns after all in that one Daring Do episode there was a Alicorn painting in the temple, and it kinda looked like Nightmare Moon. But given that Nightmare Moon came after the time of the temples prime, there must have been multiple alicorn in history in different parts of the world, for the association with royalty to be so ingrained in the culture
0 likesA small theory came to mind:
0 likesI saw a comment on how maybe the old royalty didn’t get enough love and attention so they turned back into normal ponies. But maybe they didn’t stop there... We saw some evil average ponies throughout the show like Sunset, Starlight, and Cozy Glow. We may know about some of their pasts but not their great ancestors. What I’m thinking is when the old royalties turned into average ponies, they kept trying to rip the magic out of all of the tribes to become powerful again. And when they didn’t succeed, maybe their children wanted their ancestors to become powerful by making them selves powerful in their names, Like Cozy Glow. We obviously don’t know anything about Cozy, but this could be some sort of possibility. Maybe she just wanted to suck all of the magic away from Equestria because she wanted everyone else to know what it feels like to have magic and a purpose taken away from them... Although this may be just some silly theory
I have a theory on Queen Chrysalis and that is that some time in the future, thorax and his new colony might be dying out (since only she can create new changlings) so theyll reach out to cadence and flurry heart (if they really represent motherhood relationships) and theyll free chrysalis. If she was their mother as well itd only make sense that people who understand those bonds would be able to repair her (second time posting ;P)
1 likeThe reason why the old alicorns have been lost to time could be because they were no longer supplied with the magic of the three pony races. Perhaps losing rank caused them to lose their alicorn-hood?
0 likesFrom what I remember Cadence was born a Pegasus and was a descendant to Princes Amore. The last crystal princess before Sombra Took over, granted Princess Amore was a unicorn but I don’t even know how far along the tree goes let alone who was the Prince that ruled by Princess Amores side
0 likesNot gonna lie, I support this idea that the Alicorn in the story is Cadance's Mother, it seems more likely to me, sure it raises it's own questions, but I feel it's not only more interesting to think about but also brings up less questions about Cadance's timeline. I am a little considered about what's going to happen to Sawtooth with the way the video ended, but I think he should be okay, theoretically, hopefully.
0 likesyou should really read the fiendship is magic comic about Sombra. It's heavily hinted Cadence descends from Princess Amore, the first crystal princess.
0 likes1:48 like my OC. I like to say that she became an alicorn from the determination of wanting to impress Luna. (My OC is the princess of the stars, her job is to arrange the stars in the sky every night)
0 likesI think Luna could be the alicorn in the story. We have no idea who the male is, so she could have been heartbroken and never seen him again. They could have had 2 children (prince blue blood and princess cadence) but they were lost (during some war or something I don’t know) and they were found again taken under celestia’s wing(pun intended) and raised kind of as her own. They seemed like family to her but not her own kids. Luna had a close relationship with them because they were her kids. But she didn’t recognize them because they were foal when they were lost or stolen or whatever. That’s my theory. My horse theory! Aaaaaand brohoof. (Mix of your outro and matpat’s outro)
2 likesI love the background and cherry blossoms in this video omg it’s beautiful
0 likesI wanna say that for born alicorns they age like regular ponies until they get to a certain age and completely stop aging, for alicrons who earn their wings I assume they only live for 1,000 years.
0 likesThe mare could easily be cadences mother, The love potion could possibly cause cadences powers, Her parents falling in love so much from the potion would end up making her see the love in the world and deciding to bring other ponys together in such harmony.
0 likesMaybe in the futur, the grown up Flurry Heart went to the past and make that thing happened. Or maybe that princess was not really an alicorn but they represented her as an alicorn in the book.
1 likeIf you look back, you can remember in the episodes games ponies play and the crystalline episode the ponies mention alicorn princesses ruling the crystal empire. So we do know that there were indeed many other alicorns in the past.
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My theory is that the only reason those alicorns aren’t around anymore is because unlike Celestia, Luna, and possibly Twilight they were mortal like Cadence and Flurry Heart
1 likewho that alison princess in that book of Heart & Hoves Day?
2 likesThis quite a 'heart & hoves' wrenching mystery? <3
am I right Sawtooth Waves? :3
This makes a lot of sense, but with the theory that Cadence was born an alicorn, Celestia's comment about never seeing an alicorn born when Flurry Heart was born just doesn't seem to make sense... great theory though, keep it up!
1 likeThere's one possibility I have been thinking of that no one mentioned. Chrysalis. Now as far as I'm aware, there isn't any history we know of about chrysalis impart from that she used to be the Changeling Queen, before the changelings were reformed in the show. However, what about before? It is possible she could've been born a changeling and was of royalty. But to me, if she's classed as an alicorn despite her wings being of an insect, then a tragic backstory like hearts and hooves day could explain her revenge for the ponies and why she wants to feed off love.
0 likesLet's say this for example:
Princess Chrysalis used to be a pony alicorn who the Prince yearned for, when the potion took effect, they were in a forced love and the kingdom fell to ruin because of the side effects. Because of this, the Prince had randomly disappeared, leaving Princess Chrysalis alone, a scorned lover. Because of the potion, Chrysalis transformed into a changeling along with her subjects since this forced love was corrupting her soul, manifesting in her remaining subjects.
Because of this story, we see why chrysalis feeds on love, wants to destroy cadence, take revenge on the ponies and so on. She wanted revenge because of the potion. And to do this she must absorb love: a feeling that was forced into her system and cannot leave.
There may be a lot of plot holes I'm missing. But feel free to let me know your thoughts :))
if cadance is the "crystal princess" then one of her parents must've been crystal empire royalty, maybe far before sombra's reign just imagine when he attacked the crystal empire he defeated the couple and they left cadance until another pony couple picked her up and raised her before she met celestia? i mean it kinda adds up
0 likesCadence being a decendant of the alicorn from the book fits better because she was not born at the time the book was made. (I left a really long comment on the previous video explaining that and I don't feel like repeating it).
0 likesThis would also explain a line that I have been trying to understand for years: "Behold! The Crystal Princess!"
The reason that Crystal pony who has been away for 1000 years would recognize her as the Crystal princess is because she resembles one of her ancestors, maybe her mother depending on how long her mother lived for.
Hmm I like the theory of royalty that gets praise from all the types of ponies becoming an alicorn. However I dont think just plain praise would be enough, or else the mayor of ponyville would be one. I think it's more likely that it would only happen if the leader absorbed their magic as well. Nowwwww what object is known for absorbing the love and joy of its empire and spreading it through the kingdom and its rulers...
0 likesI think this theory only works in one instance. The crystal empire. Princess Aurora. Aka the "crystal princess" that the one background pony shouted when princess cadence flew in with the crystal heart. If she resembled her mother, the previous crystal princess, the one who became an alicorn after years of working with the crystal heart the story would match up.
(It would completely conflict with the book sadly but they're not always canon.)
EditDid some research. Not princess Aurora. Its princess Amore. And looking at the timeline it makes more sense for her to be an ancestor since she was a unicorn around when the first crystal fair was held. If the joirnal of the two sisters is cannon, and we already know the tale of magic draining from unicorns raising the sun is, than that could mean princess Amore who is mentioned to be the first crystal princess would be an ancestor to a line of royalty who turn into alicorn through using the crystal heart for their kingdom. The decendent involved in the love potion/poison could also have happened around the time of sombra which would explain how quickly the empire went to ruin without its magic infused leaders to defend the kingdom.
Well one question, will cadence and flurry both outlive shinning? That would miserably sad I cannot imagine a cadence without shinning :( what do you think?
0 likesI don’t think this alicorn is connected to anyone in modern day MLP, but is rather from a long line of lords. My hypothesis is that, since the Crystal Kingdoms first “queen” (princess) was apparently Princess Amore, there was a more lord type situation with the kingdom beforehand. There was probably a long time of the kingdom having reigning lords, which of course had important families and often heirs and what I think is that there was an especially beautiful unicorn princess, and because of her outstanding admiration by her people she became an alicorn and was probably named as heir, this would resort in an alicorn princess as alicorns have been shown to be seen as greater and more powerful! Later because of the kingdom falling into ruin Princess Amore, who is probably Cadence’s great grandmother stood up to the plate and started the royalty line which was cut short by Sombra.
0 likesMy theory: Alicorn does not mean immortal, only immortal ponies are Tia/Luna [god-tier alicorn]. There have been lots of alicorns that died of old like normal ponies.
0 likesIn my dream things got confusing first off flurry heart got forced to be dealicorned and the alicorn was involved of my Injuries of a half my face gone and my arm got busted and my chest was smashed and had a hammer stuck in and had the idea of using the parts of a entity like the alicorn known as the korn makyr and her mind became my a I companion
2 likesI just want to point out I doubt there were any alicorn Royalty bc in Heartwarming ep the ponies which split up into different tribes which meant there weren't any kingdoms which combines all 3 elements until after Equestria was made and I'm guessing that if there was a case like a love position wouldn't Star swirl and the old elements stop it bc it ruined there kingdom and even if it was after they went to Limbo would Equestria have already been ruled by Luna and Celestia and they would have stopped it
0 likesdamn, cadence is more mysterious than i thought.
0 likesBtw I recently found out that your theory about Alicorns not just having wings and a horn, but actually having magic of all three tribes is true. It’s confirmed in baby flurry heart’s scrapbook thing episode 3 “all about alicorns”. Pinky says that flurry heart is not a Pegasus, unicorn or earth pony, but that she’s an alicorn, someone who has wings, a horn AND is tied to the land. That’s basically confirms it, right?
0 likesI love your videos I'm a huge fan of MLP and you make the show more fun for me even though it ended
0 likesit's too bad mlp misses so many backstoryes. We never got to know how celestia and luna became alicorns, queen crysalis's backstory or why cozy glow was like this
0 likesThe theory is nice, but you're forgetting: an alicorn birth only ever happened once, and that was with Flurry Heart. And going off of the Alicorn theory, Cadence would have to be born an alicorn for the princess in the story to be her mother (because of the magic being passed down). And given that it was stated by celestia that Flurry was the first alicorn birth, that can't be the case. I feel as though it would be more likely that the story (and thus the characters in it) pre-date Cadence entirely.
0 likesif you think back to the first movie, there are two royal-ish (i forget their exact titles) dignitaries. just thought id slap that on the table :)
0 likesMy theory is not about the alicorns, it’s about the flowing mains of the alicorn sisters.
0 likesWhat if their flowing main is just something alicorns get when they get a certain level of power. Like, in the final episode of generation 6, we see twilight having the flowing main like the two sisters. Maybe, celestia and Luna had to go through some old tradition or something else that gave them the power to have the flowing main. Take, for example, the clan leaders from warrior cats; when they are chosen to become leaders, they go to a special place and go to their version of heaven (starclan) and have spirits give their life and essence to the new leader and give them 9 lives to live through. So, what if something similar happened to twilight. This is just my theory. (If this sparked a theory of your own, please credit me, sawtooth)
I think their is a good chance that the alicorn in the story is Cadence's mother👍
0 likesInteresting. I could see some possibilities.
1 likeAnd what about Princess Amore? I know that she appears only in comics, but the comics are canon you know?
0 likesEven, if Princess Amore is Cadence's mother, how is possible that she born as an pegasus, instead as a alicorn?
Whoa ok I thought this was gonna be another throw away theory, but this is actually a good one about the alicorns = royalty thing.
0 likesI think that the princes from "Hearts and hooves day" is actually Cadences mother, but she was much elder than Celestia and Luna. Mabye Cadence has much older siblings and She is the youngest. But part of them move on and the other part including the father died in war or some thing. Just a fact!!
0 likesThinking, an ex alicorn might be the one who got the princes under the spell, I do have the theory that King Sombra might be implicated, he was after all the king in the Cristal Empire before Cadence, about the princess, I don't know if that make any sense but I have for some reason the hard belive that is Crisalid, after all, they are kinda the only alicorns that we know for sure that ruled over the Cristal Empire and also became in the end King and Queen, so for sure they had a higher position before Luna and Celestia before they came into the story. We once saw that Crisalid must be the princess of love if the universes were reversed in the My Little Pony comics, but still the princess in the story doesn't seem to look like Crisalid, maybe is just an ilustration like in other fairy tales and actually were her and King Sombra or maybe not.
0 likesJust a small theory but maybe the alicorn shown in the story is actually the one that the crystal pony’s called “the crystal princess” if the alicorns powers where associated with the love of the empire it might be that she’s part of the same story, the love potion only lasted for a certain amount of time so maybe after the potion wore of we don’t see anymore of the other pony. I’m not so sure on sombre being the prince however maybe the alicorns disappearance is because of Sombras take over.
0 likesIf cadence is the daughter of that alicorn it would then further explain why the crystal ponies recognized her so quickly and why she now rules the empire with shining and to further fall to flurry heart.
But again just an idea
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0 likesSwatooth Waves: An alicorn besides the 5 confirmed! (shows Luna, Celestia, Twilight, Cadence and Flurry Heart)
Cozy Glow: Am- Am I a joke to you? :(
I do think the Alcorn was cadences mother and the previous ruler of the Crystal Empire if you think about it the council was there before king Sombra meeting that was another ruler before hand but because of the spell she was taken away from her duty and cadence potentially being too young let the Crystal Empire defenseless to the attack of King Sombra
0 likesWhat if the princess in the tale was chrysalis, think about it for a moment. Chrysalis is one of the most mysterious characters in the show. The pony in the tale could be chrysalis before she could have been cast by a spell or hatred boiled over her after what the prince did to her. Chrysalis could have been the first changeling ( if I spelled it right) then all other changelings could be people that were effected like the princess was, that would explain why all changelings steal love, so they can be appreciated and loved.
0 likesLet me know what you think
What if the princess was Princess Amore? Y'know that old ruler of the crystal empire?
0 likesCadence is my favorite princess❤️❤️
1 likeThere is a mlp book it’s called the Journal of the 2 sisters and they talked about a whole village of alicorns and that’s the place Luna and celesta grew up in so that alicorn in the book could be one of them (the book is cannon)
0 likesI love sawtooth's vids also the background is AWESOME
0 likesThe Alicorn in the story is Cadence’s mom
0 likesRemember when they said the queen made the crystal heart maybe it’s the queen
1 likeflurry on the thumbnail has really seen something......
0 likesI just love it lol 👁👄👁
cool vid sawtooth 😗🖤
Princess Amore, maybe? If you don't know, in the King Sombra origin story MLP comic, the Crystal Empire was ruled by Princess Amore at the time. Radiant Hope's future was as an alicorn princess, too. Radiant Hope was Sombra's bff. Until he turned evil, that is. It's possible that the alicorn in the story is Princess Amore, which could be Cadance's mother.
0 likesWE NEED A GEN 5 VIDEO!!
1 likeThat flower in the hair is so cute
0 likesOkay, but another question. What about pony celebrities? People go crazy for celebrities! Wouldn't it be possible for them to get love from all three tribes and become an alicorn?? Even if temporarily?
0 likesSawtooth Waves, do you write fanfiction? Sound like you're good at it...
0 likesKinda thinking she could be, or is somehow correlated with Chrysalis? like it kinda makes sense, Chrysalis feeds off love and her “kingdom” seemed dystopian. just some food for thought :)
0 likescould The mystery princess be Queen Chrysalis?
0 likesWhat about Princess Amore? who ruled the Crystal Empire before Sombra took over?
0 likeswait, but if cadence is celesta’s niece then who was celesta’s other sister or brother??!
1 likeI can see why you'd think that she could be Cadence's mother. However, if she was Cadence's mom, then why wasn't Cadence born as an alicorn the way that Flurry Heart was born as an alicorn? Celestia said that Flurry was the first pony to be born as an alicorn and this is clearly due to having an alicorn parent. If Cadence is a result of the love seen in the story when the mother is already an alicorn, then Cadence would have been born as an alicorn before Flurry was.
0 likesLOVE HOW U DID THE SPRING BACKROUND
0 likesFlurry heart in the thumbnail is everything
0 likesI think the secret Alicron princess from the story could be Queen chrysalis I mean she has the body and height even a horn of a powerful Alicorn. Whos to say she couldn't have been that princess from the hearts and hooves day story. And for all we know she could Cadences mother as well. I have my head cannon from Ink Roses story on how Queen chrysalis came to be I highly recommend listening to her head cannon stories they seem to link a lot of holes in the show.
0 likesTo be honest something doesn't add up, but the theory makes sense. It could be true, but if the story took part after the first hearts warming eve.
0 likesGuy's i have a question, How did rarity survive on the moon in nightmare rarity arc?
0 likesI mean, i know it's magical land of Equestria and no horse or Pony ever sent to space irl but if we take same aspects of real life, she cannot survive more than 15 sec in the space, i know that luna, twilight and the rest of mane 6 is literally dragging moon close to Equestria surface and by that there's at least some part of the moon that get covered by atmosphere but that's was atleast good 30 to 90 minutes after the kidnappings happen (ponynapped?) So what did you guys think?
i know it's silly and kinda out dated but this just randomly crossed my mind
Maybe some royalties already retired or maybe some evil ponies took over their kingdom
0 likesLove your flower in your hair sawtooth
0 likesMy personal head cannon is that the pony in the story is Cadances mother. And she used to rule the Crystal Empire. But then Sombra killed her and her husband, the king, in his quest for power. We know ponies can die, although not often outside of old age, as seen by AppleJacks parents. In one of the split timelines Starlight causes there’s a war with Sombra. It’s easy to assume that there was a similar war when he took over the first time which probably happened after he killed the Royal Family which eventually led to the Crystal Ponies enslavement. I think Cadance is always so close in all the flashbacks to Celestia or Canterlot in general because she was probably rescued but Celestia couldn’t save the rest of the family from Sombra. It just doesn’t make since for Sombra to take over so easily even if he just enslaved everypony. Even somepony as evil as him. Also could you talk about how alicorns get virtually eternal life? Celestia looks the same as she did when Granny Smith was a kid and also the same 1000 years prior. Also how Luna reverted back to how she looked when she was younger than the main 6 and then grew up so quickly to where she’s the same appearance of age as Celestia. Maybe her body is just correcting itself after being gone 1000 years. Idk
0 likesFlurry Heart in the Thumbnail, What crimes will she commit?
1 likeHow about Crysalis? Maybe she is that princess - the spell of love can destroyed Crysalis years ago... Thats why she is like this now (and she looks like a princess)
0 likesI think it could be Cadence but as You Say They started to see alicorns as roialty, mabey that princess wasn't actualy an alicorn and they draw her like that just because She was roialty
0 likesI actually suggested this idea before I watched the video and I wrote a comment saying that she may be the daughter of the love princess in the story so this theory is copyrighted 😸
0 likesthe alicorn in the story could be the cristal hart
0 likesWhat about the comics ... There was a princess from the Crystal Empire who ruled before Cadаnce.
0 likesYeah but if Cadence is the daughter of alicorn....you're gonna hate this.... "A birth of an alicorn is something Equestria has never seen..." /_\
0 likesOr are you saying mother and daughter became alicorns at different time? Thats possible.
Hmm.. well.. it could also be chrysalis? Cuz wasn't she the old princess of love? Just a random thought.
0 likesEdit : and the prince could've been a younger sombra!
What about the story of hearts warming eve and how the three mane types where always mad at each other???
0 likesIdk if you’ve done a video about this, but what about the video of what happened to Sunset Shimmer in the EG universe? We are counters for all except for her. Interesting theory: she killed/tied up her counter so that she could take her place
0 likesCadance isn't the one in the Hearts and Hooves Day story, because wasn't likely born yet. It seems more like she is somewhere around the age of Shining Armor. Twilight is likely 10 years younger than Shining Armor. I think Cadance is off of Celestia' and Luna's brother. They're likely all off of Princess, Platinum and Prince, Puddinghead with the othe pegasi and kirin missing in later.
0 likesam i the only one waiting for him to just talk about G5 already?
0 likesThe alacorn from hearts and hoves day is a different person
1 likeWelp The friendship map is always expanding the other alicorns are out there somewhere
0 likesSawtooth I think that the alicorn in the hearts and hooths day is no other then a previous CRYSTAL PRINCESS! I know it sounds strange but remember season 3. One of the crystal ponies sayed "THE CRYSTAL PRINCESS" like there were before Cadence. Maybe that alicorn became an alicorn through the crystal heart because prob more ponies knew about the crystal fare and prob it wasn't just crystal ponies. But tell me what you think? Is the unknown alicorn a previous crystal pony or maybe I am just wanting more fantasy? I am a person on the internet and mama mia papa pia this was an interesting video.
0 likesShe probably wasn't an alicorn and whoever wrote the hearts and hooves day book drew her as one because princess=alicorn
0 likesThere’s gonna be a new season with a lot of new my little pony people
1 likeHow would cadence have became an alicorn? Since they’ve said flurry heart was the “first” alicorn born as one
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Cadence was actually born a Pegasus
0 likes@Pearl im wondering about her story on how she became an alicorn
0 likesmy theory is that Sawtooth is the other alicorn
0 likesI knew it I knew it I knew what I said in the last video that the Alan corn from heart and hose day is related to kadence Because For a while if you remember correctly she was a pegasus and then she became in our court Plus I think that I'm something happened to cadences mother because There's this song Book and it says that cadence wasn't always an hour corn She used to be a unicorn Pegasus But then There is this evil witch And cadence beat the witch Yada yada So enough to wear she was turned into an outlet corn
0 likesMaybe cadance mom is celestia and luna's sister and theres proof bc i remember a scene where cadance calls celestia her aunt
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And maybe cadance mom WAS the ruler of the crystal empire bc one of the crystal ponies knew her bc she would have looked simulur to her mom or they knew her as the rulers daughter and when the love potion happend it was a easy ticket for sombra
0 likesMaybe they are trying to avoid other ponys
1 likeDude do you realize cadence was originally a pegasus
0 likesWait will sawtooth be human now?
1 likeAlicorns could be immortal we don't know
0 likesIt makes sense that it is cadence mother because cadence as the power of love so baby cadence probably made them fall in love it makes sense
0 likes...am I the only one who's thinking of Princess Amore?
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Yes , but me too or Chrisalis .
1 likerarity said that price blue blood is princess celestia's nephew so........ either celestia and luna have another sibling or he is Lunas son....
0 likesI'm just staring at that flower... XD
0 likesI think the Alicorn is not a pony we know because if it was cadence was that alicorn princess that would mean she is way older than shining armor which doesn’t work because it would mean that she was an adult pony when he was a baby and continued so I think it has to be either maybe a prenatal figure of cadence or another alicorn entirely (also Cadence wasn’t a born alicorn in the books and comics its mentioned that she was a Pegasus and then became and alicorn)
1 likeI really want an explanation. Where is Sunset Shimmer’s Look alike in the human world. She is originally a pony so where is her human form?
0 likesIf the story was a long time ago cadance wouldent be born back then
0 likesAnd not only alicorns are royalty Prince blue blood isnt a alicorn but hes stil royalty
And if the princess in the story was cadance the hearts and howes day would be when cadance was rulling the enpire
I love your family make more pls
1 likeWhat if cadence is the daughter of the two in the story but her father is king sombra? When he fell in love with a Pegasus but his parents wouldn’t allow him to date her cause she wasn’t royal he found the unicorn necklace and gave it to her. When she still didn’t fell in love with him truly he the potion so she would. Cadence was the result of the potion but under the birth her mom died and sombra got heartbroken. Celestia took cadence away from him because he began to blame cadence for her mother’s death. Celestia didn’t tell her anything but that’s also why she have the power for the Crystal heart and she was chosen to rule the Crystal empire.
0 likesit maybe Princess Amore but she didnt have wings... she couldnt be the alicorn pony in the love story... i dont know what that princess is... but we can find it together...
0 likesBut what about the Princess Amore whom ruled before Sombra took over she wasnt an alicorn
0 likesthis is a far fetch but in social sciences we study that the world as we know right now went from a whole to the individualism, maybe it reflects in equestria? ponies becomes more individualistic, so alicorn, thus royalty become more rare
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and what if at some point alicorns were as common as earth ponies
0 likesFirst of all i want to say sorry for my bad english or if it doesn't make sense
1 likeSo my toughts are that maybe chrysalis(sorry if i wrote it wrong) might be that alicorn because if you think about it the changelings feed on love and what if chrysalis turned out this way becous it's a side affect of the spell
Why is G4 still talked about when it’s long gone?
0 likesMy theory is and probably correct but here’s mine Cadence parents are Dead maybe cadence was found near the ruins of the castle and somebody adopted her
0 likesDay 3 of asking you to make a video about your favourite MLP ships!
0 likesI think it’s cadence’s mom
0 likesOk I think we need to think of this is blue blood and cadence siblings or cousins or other?
0 likeshej sawtooth what if the alicorn was NOT an alicorn and it was just a legdend that she was alicorn and the princess in heart and hooves is princess Amore?
1 likeI wonder was cadence born an alicorn? In the flashbacks she's an alicorn.
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Her daughter was the first alicorn ever to be born one already if I’m not mistaken but yes I have to Admit this thought has crossed my mind once or twice LOL
0 likesdont think blue blood is the one who did the potion he has a horn
0 likesWhat happened to Salton he just tripped on a rock and then he fell into the YouTube portal
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Sawtooth*
0 likesBut if that baby was Cadence, why Celestia would say the infamous line? "The birth of an alicorn is something Equestria has never seen"
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Wait what bby
0 likesHA I NEW IT!!! I commented that I could bake her mom in the other video
0 likesCadence dad is the Alcorn her mom is a Pegasus she was born in Pegasus.
0 likesWell if Prince BlueBlood and Cadence are Celesta's niece and nephew then Luna is the mom or Celesta and Luna have a brother or sister and they might be the one on the cover of the Hearts And Hooves Day Story...(???)
0 likesWell it's great but i think that alicorn is her mother cuz i don't think cadence is so much older cuz in Twilight's childhood she was young too and her height is not so you know big i mean she is not like luna and celestia she is alot younger then them
0 likesAnd your videos are awesome
Can u tell why apple jack is so strong?
And pinkie is so much full of energy?
And if Twilight's element is magic then why luna, celestia and cadence have more powerful magic then her? Which family she belongs to?
And why rainbow dash is not so girly even though her mother is? Why is she so fast and a wheather controller when her father is not? Which family she belongs to like fluttershy belongs to shy family, pinkie pie belongs to pie family and apple jack belongs to apple family
And why fluttershy is so shy?
Why rarity love fashion if her parents are not into this? Which family she belongs to like fluttershy belongs to shy family, pinkie pie belongs to pie family and apple jack belongs to Apple family
LOVE YOUR WORK LOVE YOUR THEORIES AND YOUR SONGS
Check out this YouTuber called RobinRain he makes amazing Mlp animation.
0 likes(My frist thuri:The alicorn could be Luna that's why she became so Lonny )or{my second thuri: it could be cadence mom but she die when king sombra attack crystal empire and the alicorn send cadence to the Royal sisters }
0 likesIf celestia have a Nephew and a niece does. Celestia and Luna have another sister
0 likesThis is exactly what I thought
0 likesWait a second! ! Does the end of the video mean that SAWTOTH will turn into a human😶😶
0 likesI'm dying for the thumbnail oml
0 likesWha--? Sawtooth, where'd you go?!
0 likesAre u still going to do theories for the next gen
0 likesDoes celestial and Luna have another sibling? Because to have a nephew you have to have a sibling tovhave a kid and it couldn't be Luna?
0 likesThis is probably true just for da fact no one questions alicorns
0 likesAlso gen 5 mlp theory 🥺🥺
Omg what if alicorns were once all over equestria and doing their part to keep the world in check like even before grogar but then grogar destroyed all most all the alicorns but celestia and luna and then cadance’s mother and father were still ruling the crystal empire untill some of grogar’s monsters killed her parents but the crystal ponies put their love and light in the heart and destroyed the monsters and cadance was sent somewhere else to be safe but then was found by celestia?
0 likesI guess you're correct. But question: did you just go back to where you came from or something?
0 likesAll hail Princess twilight sparkle
0 likesThis is what i was thinkin when he posted the first one , like
0 likesNah i bet it her mom
It could cadences birth parents. Our relatives.
0 likesI think the alicorn is candences mum (I Wright it like that because I'm England english
0 likesdat ending tho-
0 likesI kinda think cresles is the one
0 likesI can Explane the earth pony king and the prinsses isn't a Real alicorn Celeste is made her an alicorn she did something happened to her that makes her the alicorn and when she sapraded from earth pony king she,gonna become a mother and without the king and she had a place to Rule the crstly anpaier antel she gave brith to cadence so she have to fight with king sobmra defeated her and celstya and luna defeated king sombra so she was a Pegasus so she fly to ponywill sao she fall and she was crying in abush so to earth ponys took her so prisima truned nine and celstya truded her into a alocron
1 likeThe first time I see the blossom background in the back
0 likesWhat if that was telling what would happen one day we don't know but what if bluebell falls in love with flirt heart and creates the love poshin to make furry heart fall in love with him when she is older
0 likesthe princess could queen cyrisilis
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:o
1 likeSTOP I WASN'T READY FOR THIS
0 likesYO THERES AN MLP COMIC THAT SHOWS CADENCES MOTHER CHECK THAT OUT
0 likesOr Princess Amore
0 likesi I think that is Cadence is Mother😱🙃🤩
0 likesIf Prince Blueblood is Princess Celestia's nephew where's their sibling of the AKa the parents of Prince Blueblood
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Yea... Yea! You're right!!!!
0 likesManda um beijo para rarity
0 likesCadence `s mom
0 likesSyannax and Farefallen.
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Why do ponies have different sir names but are family like shinning armor and twilight sparkle
0 likesSorry but this theory is based on almost nothing. It's low key Fanfiction and making people watch your other videos
0 likesYa the others might be deceased
0 likesCadence is celestia’s niece
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It says it in the episode’s description
0 likesI think its just a book maybe
0 likesI’m watch Mlp rn uWU
0 likesWow
0 likesOpinions on g5 movie?
0 likesWhere did you go to sawtooth wefill you in in the portal
0 likesHey its cadence mother
0 likesmoon is tirek star swirl discord came .
0 likeschrysalis yes ok
0 likescan you stop making it so serious please
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Let people have fun with their interests
0 likessoo it mite of been 500 years ago so I think it was a difint prises of love.
0 likesIt's mommy lauran faust
0 likeswait..... WhAt
0 likesSo that pony you saw that’s probably so is your secret sister
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Bruh
0 likesWhy does it always have to change it
0 likesI’m trying to say celestial secret sister
0 likestoilet sparkle
0 likesHi i’m nine and like your videos
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Hi I'm 8 and so do I
0 likesUmmmmm, i don't know, do you?
0 likesU said who's luster dawn's parents I'm her parents
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that was a theory. no one knows who her parents are.
1 like@Reese well I'm actually her mom because my oc is Starlight Glimmer I'm no longer miguel
1 likeDo you have video where is princess cadence parents
0 likesITS PRINCESS AMORE DUH GOOGLE
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OFC SHE BOTIIIN SERIES PLS MAKE A VID OF IT
0 likes*NOT IN
0 likesHi sawtooth waves
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0 likesdats wut i said wen i saw da last video :D
0 likesYou said som Alicorns I'm not
0 likesI think it's somepony else wich we don't know
0 likesOh this is happenedI am you’re wrong but this is not the sameher hair and tail
0 likesyes meady?
0 likes🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀
1 like👉🐴👉🦄👉🐴🦋👉🦄🦋
0 likesAmore it is amore
0 likesLuna
0 likesLuna is it
0 likesIts likely
0 likesYayyyyyyy
0 likesOMG the person the person the person the person on the last video they commented that it was like her grandparents or her mom I OmG OmG OmG
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Is anybody else as hyped for that person as I am I’m not even that person that commented
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1 likeFlurryheart is the worst
0 likes6 princcesi not five becaus there is a nother female alcone but she is not called a princess so how can you say all alcons are born rolity
0 likesOne point I would like to make in relation to the theory that being an alicorn can come from exposure to the magic of all three pony tribes is... what if everyone in each tribe exchanged some of their magic with each other?
1 likeWould that result in *all* the participants becoming alicorns?
Is it hypothetically possible to turn the entirety of Equestria into a land of alicorns?
Just a thought.
I just want to say thanks for all the theories, analyses, music and the other content you've made over the years. You were one of the first content creators I started watching when I joined the fandom, and though I was pretty young back then, all your ideas were so interesting. (And still are!) I remember during one of your hiatuses, I remembered your videos and decided to visit your channel again. I was thinking to myself, "Woah, it's been a while, I hope he makes a new video one day." And well, then next day you posted that Starswirl the Bearded video, so um that was a thing.
0 likesAnd now my comment is pretty long so uh.
Thank you so much for all the content you've made and still continue to make. I really really really appreciate it <3
This is a great video and it gave me a thought: it might make sense if, after what the alicorn from the story went through, celestia and luna stripped all the other prince's and Princesses of their alicornhood to protect them, seeing only themselves as ready for regality like that until cadence and twilight came along. So they oversee all alicorns and push other royalty to the backgrounds to stop them from turning.
1 likeI personally have a hard time believing that there could have been multiple royal lineages with alicorns in them. There just isn't a gap that I see between the three tribes and the sister's reign. Plus, something as big as nations aren't just forgotten... Unless someone made them forget.
0 likesI always assumed it was just Princess Amore, but with an error with the wings. After all, she'd only be a concept at that point.
0 likesAlso, cadence is younger than you probably think, after all, she ages much like Twilight, and twilight is somehow luna sized in the finale even when her friends are still alive.
hey Sawtooth, will you be reviewing the theories for the G5 movie? there are some interesting ones out there. You could also take a look at the synopsis for the movie and come up with some theories of your own.
1 likeThey said they'd explore more of Equestria, who knows, we might see what happened to the other royals...
I enjoy watching how you pull out all the secrets in mlp.
0 likesI think there is a small possibility that the depicted princess in hearts and hooves day might be the lost crystal princess that was taken over by sombra. However, that idea doesn't hold up very well since even celestia's knowledge of the crystal empire is limited when it comes to before it was lost to the frozen North due to Sombra's curse.
0 likesI think in the comics it's confirmed there's some Alicorns royalties during Celestia and Luna's reign. Maybe just like Twilight, Celestia turned them into an Alicorn so they can rule a specific kingdom. There used to be an Alicorn princess who ruled over the Crystal Empire before Sombra took over and caused the entire Empire to disappear. He most likely killed the princess as well. I know that the comics are not mostly canon but I do feel like some of the facts provided in those comics could be true to the show.
0 likesThe thing with Blueblood being a Prince never bothered me, especially because I was little when I started watching the show. But it has been confirmed that Blueblood is Celestia's nephew and that Cadence is her niece(adotptive I'm pretty sure.) So that leaves me wondering if Blueblood is Celestia's adoptive nephew, or if Celestia has other family members aside from Luna. Though I don't think this has much to do with the Hearts and Hooves Day Princess, it's a fun thing to think about.
0 likesThe comics show the old crystal princess. She was an alicorn named Amore, and was lost to history, probably around the same time that Somrba took over. I think she might be the princess in the story, and Sombra's takeover of the crystal empire was a result of her failing her royal duties.
0 likesI think your next video should be about the crystal unicorns, bc in the episode of the crystalization of flurry heart in part 1 when Spike explains the crystalization he used a base. In the base there is a crystal unicorn but in the actual crystal empire there is no crystal unicorns atleast not anymore, maybe it has to do with King Sombra or the crystal empire royal family.
1 likeNice. Could you do a theory on Cozy Glow's past please?
0 likesHonestly I always thought there were other alicorns I think there is a lost alicorn I think the alicorn is cadence or her mom love your videos
2 likesOk but I think the question ties in with the starswirl created alicorn theory. What if, because there were so many royals, one would rule after the the elder passes on. But, after Starswirl saw the potential of the royal sisters, he casted an age spell into the mix for 2 reasons:
0 likes1. He wouldn't always be there to cast new alicorns.
2. He knew that the talent of the royal sisters is very strong, and wanted a symbol like that for a long time.
Maybe that specific alicorn was forgotten and not ever mentioned (assuming that fillies and ponies like twilight look at them from ze past) bc she wasn’t meant to fall in love, I’ve heard of times thousands of years ago ppl in royal families normally married cousins or selected nobles to keep the family line clean and maybe they decided to outcast her. Then she lost her magic and nobody remembered her
0 likesWouldnt that still leave the problem of the birth of flurry heart.
1 like"The birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen"
You know, your favourite line. If Cadence is the child of an alicorn and she was born one surely ponies would still remember something so significant
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Here’s how I think alicorns work
1 likeRemember sawtooth’s video about how Starswerl created alicorns with a pocket dimension that scenes anypony has done anything royalty worthy then turns them into an alicorn wheel I think sense Cadence was already an alicorn the dimension scened royalty worthiness in Flurrt before she was even born causing her to be the first pony an BORN alicorn
Maybe cadence was born a Pegasus or unicorn or even an earth pony and all the admiration and love from her fellow admirers turned her into a alicorn I don’t know it’s a giant mystery
1 like@Maddy Forbes hmmm maybe that's true, so kinda like the crystal heart ceremony with Flurry heart
2 likes@Maddy Forbes then my I suggest you look up Princess Cadence Backstory (The Crystal Heart Spell Song)
0 likesWhen Cozy Glow lost her alicorn powers, she also lost her horn. Why was that not the case with the four princesses when Tirek stole their magic? Why didn't they lose their horns and/or wings? Is it possible that if you remain an alicorn for long enough, your new horn/wings become inseparable from your natural biology? Or does stealing magic using Grogar's bell differ from stealing it with no artifact?
0 likesI think there are two Questions:
0 likesFirst. as said: were are they now?
Second: why only Mares and no Stallions?
(And yes that was the theme of an video some years ago.)
I prefer the theory that this unicorn was actually Chrysalis ! Indeed, it could be she who would have lost her means as a result of the filter of love. Hence the fact that it feeds on it.... (forgive my bad English, I'm French) By the way good video !
0 likesWait... if alicorns earn their wings/horn from being filled with magic and adoration from all Earth ponies, unicorn and Pegasi, does that mean a yak or changeling would be able to gain wings and a horn if they too are filled with the magic?🤭
0 likesI guess this could be plausible but the fact that the royal sisters just pulled up out of nowhere and then all the people in equestria just was like "all right these are our new leaders we will submit to them" just seems a bit weird they would have to be some sort of rebellion or a fight between the royal families
0 likesI don't think the mystery alicorn is Cadence but I do think they're related.
0 likesSee, based off the theories provided here, I think that mystery princess did lose her power like you suggested. But she lost it after the potion because she was no longer able to rule her kingdom. The potion made it impossible for her to do anything but overly love that prince, which would leave the citizens abandoned and the kingdom in shambles. With the princess unable to do her duties and run, she lost her alicorn-ness. And because the citizens were abandoned, they no longer spoke of her besides how terrible that love potion is. Her history after the love potion would be lost because no one cared about her anymore.
And based off of my own theory, if Cadence was born from that love potion pair, I don't think they raised her. Celeste may have known about the situation and had to look on, but she stepped in to take the child because it was obvious the love potion didn't leave any love for Cadence. (Similar to how The Willowbys, a Netflix movie that I probably spelled wrong, family works.)
But, you know, that's all just theories. Have fun!
I doubt Cadence was the first Princess of Love. That Alicorn was the first. And I double Celestia or Luna were the first Alicorns.
0 likesOk,its definitely Cadence's mom! Because the others aren't that much into Romantic Love,as you said all of the alicorns we know represent different types of love... What if Cadence is actually the replacement for her mom! That's a pretty good idea in my opinion, so the possibities : ???
0 likesI don't know,but its DEFINITELY NOT Cadence herself! Because when she used the love spell between some random ponies,she was super young,so its possibilities of it being her,is less,soooo its Cadence's mom,but maybe one day she failed to take care completly over the whole kingdom she ruled over whether its the Crystal Empire or some other kingdom in Equestria or who knows somewhere we don't know! So yes this is my thinking about it.
It bas been stated Amora is a relative of Cadence before, but shes a regular unicorn. I think Amora could be the sister of the mystery alicorn or be the mother, because she was a minor royal. Or, Amora could have been that alicorn, but lost the power. She does have the height of one, and maybe she used all of her alicorn power into the crystal heart or smth after the love spell, or maybe she did something with the love spell to the crystal heart. Also, alot of Celestia merch shows her as pink. Put pink celestia next to Amora, they look awfully similar. And since you think Cadence is Celestia's niece, it would make sense if Amora is Celestia's sister, the alicorn in the story, Cadence's mother and why she may no longer be an alicorn. She also was crystallized and destroyed by Sombra, so it does make sense why she could be lost to history.
0 likesLove this theory
1 likeLove your vids
Keep up the good work
Will you ever talk about the comics? Since a lot of crazy stuff has gone down in them
1 likewhen sawtooth uploads it's like Christmas
0 likesbtw sawtooth pls acknowledge this because I'm revamping my channel to a theory and discussion channel like urs, you were an inspiration to me for a while now and now I feel like commendation/theories are my thing :)
thx so much
Imagine if that was a time travelling Twilight
0 likesHmmm, what if these other alicorns were trapped in limbo? Just like how Starswirl was trapped and along with all the other Pillars...
0 likesHer mother is actually the queen of the crystal heart
0 likesThe prince looks a lot like princess celestia’s nephew
1 likeI think this alicorn is some old descendant of Candance, not the mother, and neither is she,
0 likesin the story of this episode, the kingdom of these passionate ponies basically fell apart, because the two were so preoccupied with loving each other, that they didn't even care about the kingdom. so most likely that reign fell, but his descendants remained noble. then time passed and Candance was born, probably her granddaughter or great-granddaughter.
And she lived a normal life in the beginning ????
and she was a Twilight drool
I do not know more
took me way too long to realize you where playing Carnival of the Animals in the back this whole time
2 likesSawtooth I have a thing that backs you’re theory! So cadence was born a pony and not a alicorne, then became one. She also gave birth to a alicorne. Stay with me here. If her mother is the one from the story, and we don’t now a lot about this pony, maybe cadences mom was born a alicorne. Maybe cadence was meant to be born a alicorne but didn’t beacouse it was not true love and just a potion! But celestia would not say she had never seen a birth of a alicorne if her sister was born one. So I think that celestia is not cadences aunt.❤️❤️❤️
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And it did not seem like celestia or anyone interfered with their love potion so I think that they were not known bye many which is why celestia said she had never seen a birth of a alicorne!
1 likeWow you have really good attention to details.
0 likesImpressive MOST impressive.
My idea is that the crystal empire was once run by this alicorn princess but king sombra came and took over causing the princess to abandon the empire and cadence seeing what was going on decided to run away. But her parents to over run by the love potion were easily defeated. And that was how empire was over run by king sombra. And why Cadence returned the citizen thought itbwas the return of their princess but it was her daughter
1 likeThat sounded alot like what so videos channel thing about Disney's The Lion King. After seeing it one more could. It sounds like the green ranger story as will. Tommy becomes evil, Tommy becomes good, evil takes away his powers out of an trust issue, and good gives him new powers.
0 likesWhat if she was chrysalis. Didn't you do a theory about how shes essentially a fallen princess?
0 likesThis is an interesting theory I love your videos
0 likesMaybe we'll see the mystery alicorn in MLP gen 5?
0 likesIt’s cadences sibling I guess
2 likesOH YES, SHE IS! (Stay tuned to know )
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Cadence doesn't have a sibling I think
0 likesWhat if sombra hunted down alicorns and drained their magic to make the Alicorn amulet
0 likesmaybe it is cadances mom when the potion was first used there probably wasnt a cure yet but when somepony else figured out it was a potion and not actual love a wizard made a cure and used it on her she got angry and took cadence away she wasnt around other tribes and lost alicorn magic making her life shorter and she might have gotten to old and correct me if im wrong but didnt celestia find cadence as a baby so then she would get her tribe magic by being raised by the princess we do know that she was a pegasus at some point and the love spell might have been because her mom was under a love spell when she was born there for in her dna instead of her dads influence we have seen not normal magic in dna like flurry heart being born alicorn the praise baby royals get from crystalings and other parties or just following there parents on the job could have made them alicorns from an early age it also makes it fit even better with the alicorn amulet theory also the love story was a long time ago and even if the ones we know were around then they would have had something to say hearing the siblings of the elements of harmony used the potion and like you said before cadance wouldnt use something used on her she isnt that kind of person after gusty the great happened they had royals but they werent together but after the fire of friendship some of them got alicorn magic after a while they started building their goveermnets closer and eventually decided on having only one and chose celestia and lunas mom and dad or grandparents even not being rulers anymore most of the others lost their alicornness witch would show a possible reason why cadence dad liked her mother he saw she was still an alicorn she wasnt just a princess she was still loved enough to be an alicorn so he used the love spell either thinking it was incredible she was an alicorn or wanting to be one himself witch is why he used the spell and had a baby cadence moms family could have been the past goverment of the crystall empire witch is why shes meant to be there cadence might have had a baby aliorn because she was the first to be exposed to the magic while pregnant because twilight and her friends so flurry heart would be an alicorn becuase she was around the magic but this theory about magic being transfered by ruling leaves a gap because of shining armour he would be one too unless only girls could be alicorns
0 likessorry for the long comment i just had a lot to say
Just wondering whats your thoughts on gen 5?
1 like5:34 Uh oh...Sawtooth you good? Uhhhh quick someone get him some milk!
1 likesince the comics are technically canon, what about Amore?
0 likesThis is an intresting one. But why started Cadence out as an pegasus?
0 likesNow this is epic!
0 likesHmmm what if theres a dark past where Celestia and Luna commited "Royal Purges" so the Legitimacy of the two sisters stayed very high and to avoid any pretenders
0 likessombra ruled the crystal empire but who ruled before him that is who the alicorn is and Candace is the Eire to the thorn
0 likesI am pretty sure the bottle at the end after video, is connected to the next video 😝
0 likes... Do you do theories from the comic books? ( I would like to ponder Cosmos and Discord ... )
0 likesLol what is queen crysalis was once an alicorn? She could have changed herself into a bug out of hatred or maybe some powerful wizard even did that. so she then breeds and creates an army and feeds on love because she lost the love of her kingdom/family/friends/etc.? Idk I think it may have a good background for her.
0 likesI have a 1 question that has been bugging for years. Which is the stronger race the alicorns or sayans?
0 likesI love your theory’s:D
0 likesCan you do a theory about the strange timeliness. With star swerl and princess Celestia and luna if you want to explain i can becuse I noticed that afew thing don't seem to add up and I was wondering if you could look into it. Its nothing major its just a little confusing
1 likeLove it so much ^^
0 likesMe (trying to find the truth) : My head is spinning 🥴
1 likeMe: at first when he mentioned the other known Alicorn The pony of shadows A.K.A Stichen
1 likeOki just a question for a different topic😂
0 likesWell first...twilight got her wings for fixing a spell from starswirl the bearded
But starlight did exactly the same and even more
So..here is my question
Where are starlights wings?? And if she were an alicorn then what is she the princess of?? The princess of magic?? Or something else??
(I think that might be a different alicorn we don't know)
Could it be princess amore or someone related to cadence?
0 likesGreat Video Sawtooth!
0 likesThink it’s cadence mom it kinda makes a good point 😄
0 likesHmm if I would write the story iwould say, that she was candence 's mother and when their kingdom falls down celestia (kinda young) I guess near the time of nightmare moon seperated them both after a massive dragon attack as apple bloom read it in the book, celestia seperates them both and.. eventually a little moons before Twilight cadence was born, but uh.. the potion seemed to have been stronger then what the crusadors made like think, what if celestia did seperate them for liek 20- 30 years and that country have been enough and cadence's mom and dad eventually passed away and leaving celestia to adopt her as her neice
0 likeswait if that alicorn was cadences mom would cadence be an alicorn but by celestias quotes" a birth of an alicorn has never been seen"
0 likesLooks good my friend!
0 likesI really think it’s Cadence’s mom
0 likesIn the picture the princess is an alicorn. If u look closely the princess is an alicorn
0 likesI wrote a comment on the last video saying that it can't be cadences parents or relatives because the princess in the story is an alicorn and because .... CELESTIA : - "A birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen" backed up by LUNA : - "it's beyond even our understanding" and I am not convinced that there are other alicorn and we're not even sure if that story is accurate or REAL AT ALL! It could be just a fairytale.
0 likesIf Cadence and Blueblood are niece and nephew to Celestia then mabe they are related somehow? XD
0 likesInteresting theory my dude!
0 likesHi there! You know I'm still courius what happened to A.J. parents. Because we know Who they are, but we never actually where are they or what happened to them.
0 likesI hope you will answer my comment😊
Could you maybe make a video on mlp g5? Your my favorite mlp Theorie channel I really want to hear your opinions on the leak of mlp g5 :)
0 likesI think they had to go into hiding when tired first came and never came out but why
0 likesI think it was someone else and they did something bad enough to not get to be an alicorn anymore
0 likesDidn't even watched it but liked it I know your video will be amazing and it is 👌
0 likesconfused, in different video you said Cadence IS that princess
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both are possibilities! just exploring different ideas
0 likesA fun video you can make is one of the dazzling look like starlight
0 likesMaybe they all died in a war. Like an Alicorn genocide, just like in avatar
0 likesI think the hearts & hooves prince & princess are Cadance' parents
0 likesI haven’t watched the video yet but, LITERALLY THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN THINKING THE WHOLE F#@€ING TIME
0 likesHe got tested into Brazil at the end!
0 likesThe alicorn is chrysalis she is just cursed!
1 likeIf you want another theory what about Luna’s cutie mark . When they gave their magic to twilight only the moon of her cutie make disappeared but in royal problem her black smudge disappeared too. So what is Luna cutie mark.
0 likesWAIT WAIT WAIT IF CELESTIA HAS A NEPHEW WOULDN'T THAT MEAN SHE HAS TO HAVE SIBLINGS SOMEWHERE!?
0 likesThe thumbnail did it.
1 likeI think cadence is the child of those two
0 likesDo theory on actual human sunset
0 likesThis is a very good theory
0 likesWOW EQUESTRIA HAS SO MUCH MISTERY
0 likesSo, everyone stayed past the patreons, right?
1 likeI wonder why Alicorns seem to only be female?
0 likeswho remembers that alicorn from the mobile game?
0 likesBro ilysm ur the reason that I’m interested in mlp again
0 likes2:12
0 likesWhat if they commited uhm
"Habsburg Diplomacy"
Wait what if the alicorn princess for the hearts and hooves day was really a changeling its possible
0 likesWHAT IF FLURRY HEART IS THE SECRET PRINCESS SHE JUST IS RENCARINATED
0 likesOr that there are two more alicorn princess sterling and princess gold lily
0 likesI love your videos
0 likesI love your videos
0 likes! Maybe it's, queen chrysalis .😜
0 likesLOVE it i LOVE cadence LOVE you ❤️❤️
0 likesshe could have passed away, assuming mlp is similar to irl, she could have died from a disease or during child birth
0 likesIt could be the princess of cadelarabia as a kid
0 likesIf cadence is Celestials niece then the mother of cadence is Celestials and lunar's sister
0 likesThe world is a lot bigger than just equestria. If the movie was any indication, like the hippogriffs went into hiding so could other ponys. Or lived in another land the mane six never traveled to like in rainbow road trip.
0 likesI know that InkRose wrote a story on this but I’d like to bring it up again. What if chrysalis was the princess. I mean what if the potion was broken in some way after the prince died. Think about it, the prince was a normal pony and she was an alicorn so she’d live longer, so after the prince died she would be heart broken and maybe that’s why she and all her progeny need love to survive. She’s also an alicorn and maybe she was younger when this happened
0 likesWait, but it hasn't been two weeks yet?!
1 likeThe 4 dislikes are Celestia, Luna, Cadence, and Twilight
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Why Cadence? It’s about her.
1 likeOh hey he uploaded a new video :D!
1 likePrincess Mi Amore Cadenza 💖 STRIKES AGAIN 💖
0 likesNow don’t think to much into this but aren’t there alicorns in the comics and I don’t know how canon they are or if there even are one but either way it could be one of the possibility’s but if we should go on what we already know and we don’t know anything about the pony and I don’t believe it’s cadence or any of them we know so I think the alicorn lost their wings (or horn) and like Luna in the celestia era just been forgotten by modern pony’s of equestria I think the comic one didn’t make much sense so I would say that she’s just been forgotten but idk that’s just some possibility’s (btw love your videos sawtooth always exited when I see a new upload)😊🦄👑
0 likesMy OC is Half Alicorn and Half Komodain
0 likesIma just call the alicorn anoyacorn cause why not
0 likesTo other people it would makes sense that it would be Cadence but if u take a look at the man he look similar to celestia's nephew. So maybe it could be her brother or older sister. Maybe for her home land? And if you look at the girl she does look like Cadence but she also looks like rainbow dash (to me) that's why celestia's nephew was rude to rarity because the love poison after effects. Maybe it was rarity or someone like her or maybe rainbow dash but we are missing some else, If it was Cadence this episode was made in season 2 and was made from a long time ago but Cadence is only 200 years ago and I believe the story was made 10000 years ago so it couldn't have been her and since the people in the photo look around 18-23 I dont think it could be her mother so maybe it could have been Cadance's younger sister or a niece or nephew. We dont know. EDIT: I SPELT CADANCE WRONG AKCICU CFC UDUDUDJF.
0 likes😐👍still relevant after 2 years
0 likesAlicorn sawtooth ? meh I have seen you before
0 likesIt’s cadences mom and Maybe in the book about cadences past the evil which was cadences and her mothers sister Before cadence her mother was the princess of love until she got married and Kejdes came along her mother might have died in someway and then her father might’ve disappeared I don’t know what happened to him but then Kejdes was the new princess of love since her mother is dead since now Kejdes has no parents princess Celestia took care of her because cadence was the only non-Royal to be left
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Look it could be a possibility
0 likesBro is all villains really get free by stone? Plz tell
0 likesThe intro scared me..
1 likeWAIT!!!!!Is blue blood is the prince
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0 likesWhat is the old ruler of the Crystal Empire is her
0 likesEarly!
0 likesI feel like this a response video by a YouTuber who responded to your the truth about Fluffy Heart about Twi having a flowing man. I don't know why just do.
Please do a video on mlp G5
0 likesGreat vid
0 likesIdk why I'm doing this but chrysalis could it be her
0 likesYeah, this was my theory
0 likesOk forgive me if her metions this later but if cadence is the dauter then how come when they gave birth to a ALICORN celestia when flurry was born she never saw this before and this coulnt have been placed befor celest that just dosnt connect the theory is great just it just dosnt make sence again forgive me i just started watching and noticed this little detail so forgive me if he metions this. Btw love yo vids sawtooth also no hard feeling. :)/
0 likesOk just finished agian HOW could cadence be boooooorn an alicorn pleeeeeaaaase exsplain.
whats up with the ending?
2 likesBoulder what have you done?!?!
0 likesYASSSSS A NEW VIDEO XD
0 likesITS HER MOM
0 likesWait a minute i think she is galaxya
0 likesWOAH! THAT IS WOKE
0 likesFace revel in next VIDEO PLEASE and you are good
0 likesThe thumbnail looks sofunny lol
0 likesWoah a SECRET ALICORN PRINCESS man how much brain power this chang- I mean PONY have no don't think I think your a changling nope I don't know that at ALL
0 likesMe honest don’t remember that episode. Well I kind came in the end of the series, I feel ashamed. But one thought, it took place after the last episode of the series. like you know twilight main student, hint it was her. So the boom we read take place in past and ahead. With up and down effect. So like most episode just. Dream,. Another one might been is, raimbow dash or other mane 6. But ya like unknown pony. But we know mlp won’t do that to us. Or one of kids with wings I think when you went portal because I think flurr heat just like them. So she not a full princess just odd case of early normal, whatever you call the pony with wings. You know the ones that not princess but can still fly. But mine on last pink girl pony might be to far off to be true. But would be one of my dreams if not took place in past but after last episode. And née mlp life series, the story of kids. Witch I think a lot want that too I guess, the timeline I say. Otherwise still hope the fox the new series’s if it even on. Can’t find on y tv or online.
0 likesToday is Flurry Heart 5th birthday
0 likesI think it was Chrysalis , becose the princ give her love and her doesn't want love and she start by evil and that the why chrysalis look like monstrum . Chrysalis doesn't want childen and thats the why Chrysalis doesn't love cadece .but Chrysalis after this potion want love - love + evil .
0 likesAnd chrysalis is queen and cadece princess . And Celestia looks Chrisalis doen't love her child and Celestia adopted Cadence . Chrysalis and Cadece have something with love .
I hope you will read this text .
I from Slovakia and I'm go to 4. Class , I have little problem with english , sorry .
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When Cadenece will be maried her need her mum and call Chrysalis but Chrysalis doesn't love her but she need love . Thats why Chrysalis was in the castle when her daughter got married .
0 likesFace revel smooth waves
0 likesInteresting
0 likesWut maybe 2000 year ago a royal princess by luna celestia parents make a princess a long time ago is it how it work?
0 likesWow
0 likesExuse me what was that In the end
0 likesWhat about The Children of the Night mlp animation there was a portrait of an alicorn
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That was made by a fan tho right
2 likes@Salemkitty5 The Alicorn might not be canon but they could be a possibility
0 likesyou mean 6 alicorns
0 likesI think that is an animation mistake
0 likesYES
0 likesHai This Is The Earliest Time I Catched A Video!
1 likeWhen r u going to post another video
0 likesWowwee
0 likesthats good stuf
0 likesI know who is it
0 likesHiii i'm early!
1 likeDo a is there a space video
0 likesWhen im Thinking about it equinox3141 always win why is that
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it's only the second time
0 likesIts been only 10min and so many comments lol
0 likesWhere did you go?
0 likesOmg
0 likesWhy are not uploading videos 😒
0 likesWhera appel jack parent ????
0 likes#early_check
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0 likesEARLY!!!! Shoutout?
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1 likeYes Kayden she is a little letter will be on someone is everything OK I think it may be net net net big 👨
Noo you are wrong
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Hello! 😄
0 likesWhat does it was cool cozy clothes mother mom
0 likesI know Princess Celestia and Princess Luna's parents I know who they are Princess Celestia and Princess Luna's mom is Queen galaxsea Princess Celestia and Princess Luna father is King Cosmos😅
0 likesFAKE!
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0 likesNo no it’s not kids because it is she is already married
0 likes7 alocrn !
0 likesLiamLuna is it
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Your name is CELESTE
0 likesSomeone else I guess
0 likes237 comment lol anyway nice theroy as always
0 likesNO
0 likesWhat aboght the cangeling qween
1 likeWhat?
0 likesWaaaaat
1 likeNo no no
1 likeUpload new vid pls
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0 likes5:26-5:37 wut
0 likesAre going make new theory
0 likesI 1000000000 sure
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Yes 💝 is theNo way
0 likes☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️
0 likesFun fact:the person who is first didn't comment
0 likesChrisley's think about
0 likesThat’s fascinating! It would be so cool to write a story in that world!!!
1 likeThank you, i thought the mother theory made so much more sense!!
0 likesI always wondered about that.
0 likesBut now that I think about it there could be lots of other alicorns all over Equestria. Mabye they are rulling other beings from other places.
the flower on your hair is very pretty!
0 likesI LOVE YOUR VIDEOS AND LOVE YOUR theories about My Little Pony
2 likesI have a theory. It could just be a unicorn but stories change over time. Somewhere along the way through the years it was changed to a alicorn as fhey were seen as royals. Just like in our history. As stories get told verbally they change and as they get written it isnt the original. But thats just a theory a my little pony theory aaaaand....wrong theorist lol
1 likePlease can you make a video with all the stained glass windows in canterlot castle ?
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Please.
0 likescheck out my video "finally solving flurry heart" :3 also "flurry hearts future"
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves ok thanks !!!
0 likesThis video is amazing and as a changeling myself I enjoyed ur videos on everypony
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Thank u for the thumbs up sawtooth I enjoy watching ur videos
0 likesThis joke was already kinda made buuut this theory seems love-able and love-ly😂🤗🐎
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Omg thank you for the heart sawtooth😁
0 likeslove the bg in this one ^^
0 likesMaybe it’s not a Alacon maybe it’s a unicorn and they’re still living there just hiding their identity like Sikora
0 likesFinally!
2 likesMaybe it was the Princess of Nature or so
0 likesI bet the creator hasn't even thought of this
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I love your profile pic
0 likesMaybe Chrysalis is a like Cadance Princess
1 likeOk I don’t understand, but sawtooth can u pls tell me which season sambra comes back? 🥺
1 likeI have never thought of that :OOOOO
2 likesHOW DID YOU KNOW MY MIND—
0 likesOverthrow celestia
2 likesNice cherry blossom touch. Its a really thought through theory. Hippity hoppity this is thought through properly.
0 likesI knew it 😄😁
0 likesI'm a simple girl
0 likesSawtooth post, I click
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@Chloe Lemon cool!
0 likesEvery time when I’m watching these videos I’m just like whatttttttttt
2 likesone problem is then that would mean cadence would have been a born alicorns
0 likesYes new video my day is complete
1 likeWhy do you get me so invested in a show that ended almost 2 years ago
2 likesIm like omg everytime i watch this
0 likesYouTube: no views
0 likesAlso YouTube: 9 comments 5 views and 34 comments
Edit: yea that makes sense so sawtooth are you excited for G5 its gonna be in our equestria so yay more horse theory fodder
Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science
1 likeWhen ur super early !
0 likesVibe‐vibe-vibe
6 minutes ago? Wow, this is the earliest I've ever been
0 likesOmg only after the video i realized i was early in 49 second yay, i love this video
0 likes2 MINUTES!? WHAT!??
1 likeOMG I said this in the last video 😁
0 likesTHATS is very possible
1 likeEarly squad!!
1 likeComing earlier!
2 likesGood video
Wow
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0 likesI'm early! :)
2 likesTHEY HAVE POSTED
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2 likes51 views, 156 likes
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2 likesHAI EARLY SQUAD
0 likese EARLY SQAUD
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2 likesWhat is your real name please reply preety please
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sawtooth waves :3
0 likesHow is here a minute after
1 likewow I'm early
0 likesI am early :o
1 like14 mins 236 comments!!!!!
0 likesEarly
1 likeWhy can I only see three comments that all say first...
1 likeEarly, 1 day ago
0 likesor other?
0 likesHi-
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0 likesIt’s not
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2 likesUmm maybe so
0 likesEarly
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1 likehm idk
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2 likesHOOHOAAAHFGFGF 100 COMMENT HEHEHEHEHEHE
1 likeHello💕👋🏻
0 likesHii and I am not first I’m idk
2 likesWhat about fluttershy she has some what the power of a alicorn plus she can talk to animals and she can use the stare And I think she is part Alicorn and she the daughter of princess sterling
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