Sawtooth: maybe I should put Flurry Heart in the-
Youtube: DONT YOU DARE
and that's how he got lost in Youtube :)

Sawtooth: maybe I should put Flurry Heart in the-
Youtube: *DONT YOU DARE*
and that's how he got lost in Youtube :)


I have to agree that does raise a lot of questions but it's also kind of scary.


Luv your videos they are so amazing when I saw it in the notification I freaked out like OMG!!


What if Chrysalis is the alicorn in the story?


If your theory about flurry heart being born an alicorn because her mother (cadence) is an alicorn is true, that would mean that cadence would have been born an alicorn too, which isn't the case since flurry heart if the firat pony to be born an alicorn according to luna and celestia


I think hearts and hooves day was founded outside equestria and made its way in


My daughter has a Alcorn that I have never Sean be for


I Think it could be possible That its caydens mom but i Think we dont see her in our future its because as the story says they became too obsessed with eachother That she could not Care for the kingdom so maybe she lost her alicorn magic because of That?

What do you guys Think?


I keep on forgetting that he is a changeling 😁


Celestia and Luna are clearly at least long-lived, if not immortal, but that doesn't seem to be the case for all alicorns. Cadance is the one who demonstrates this; she was visibly younger when she was Twilight's foalsitter than she is in the present, and in the epilogue she seems to be either retired or dead, judging by the window commemorating Flurry Heart's ascent to the Crystal Throne. Maybe she feel victim to a non-aging-related fate, or maybe she's just lazy, but most likely she's getting old. And if alicorns are mostly not immortal, then it's hardly surprising that most of the alicorns over the course of the last millennium or more are long since dead.


It could have been celestial as a younger version


“Perhaps the 6th alicorn is just lost to history....”
Me screaming mentally at the screen: “AMOREEEEEEEE”

And yes i know Amore isn’t canonically an alicorn in the comics but Sawtooth once made a theory that Sombra used to be an alicorn, so Amore could’ve been one at some point!!


me after watching the beginning of story: age spell


@Sawtoooth Waves<br>Well not much is known about Celestia and Luna's parents to. Who were their parents? What happened to them. And brings the question of Cadence's parents. We know of them now thanks to one of the episodes. But not who is the mysterious Alicorn Princess whom could be Cadence's birth mother. Funny thing jf that Prince that used a love potion on Cadence's mother. End up becoming King Sombra. Just my speculation of the origins of King Sombra. Maybe King Sombra was good at one time. And something or someone attacked the Crystal Empire. Making King Sombra to dwelve ino and using dark magic. And that dark magic made Sombra into the evil King of the Crystal Empire. And forcing Celestia and Luna defeating him to save the Crystal Empire. But Sombra put a curse on the Empire vanishing it for one thousand years. Only to reappear in the 3rd season of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. Then theirs still Spike's origins too. Like how did Celestia come to find his egg. What happen to Spike's parents. Did something killed them or did they abandoned his egg for his safety, if something was after him. And his patents abandoned him to Celestia and they fled. Never to be heard of again. And what if Celestia knew Spike's parent themselves. And only Celestia knows what became of them.

@Sawtoooth Waves
Well not much is known about Celestia and Luna's parents to. Who were their parents? What happened to them. And brings the question of Cadence's parents. We know of them now thanks to one of the episodes. But not who is the mysterious Alicorn Princess whom could be Cadence's birth mother. Funny thing jf that Prince that used a love potion on Cadence's mother. End up becoming King Sombra. Just my speculation of the origins of King Sombra. Maybe King Sombra was good at one time. And something or someone attacked the Crystal Empire. Making King Sombra to dwelve ino and using dark magic. And that dark magic made Sombra into the evil King of the Crystal Empire. And forcing Celestia and Luna defeating him to save the Crystal Empire. But Sombra put a curse on the Empire vanishing it for one thousand years. Only to reappear in the 3rd season of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. Then theirs still Spike's origins too. Like how did Celestia come to find his egg. What happen to Spike's parents. Did something killed them or did they abandoned his egg for his safety, if something was after him. And his patents abandoned him to Celestia and they fled. Never to be heard of again. And what if Celestia knew Spike's parent themselves. And only Celestia knows what became of them.


@Amazing Mr. X Damn , was not expecting that. Thank you about sharing about what we know about before the rule of sombra.Even if it is a small part it still makes a difference.

@A R During The Crystal Empire Part 2 a random crystal pony shouts "Behold! The Crystal Princess!" when Princess Cadence arrives. This heavily implies that Cadence is a near exact look-alike to at least one alicorn that ruled over The Crystal Empire at least a thousand years ago, before the reign of King Sombra.

If you consider the official IDW comics to be canonical, like Hasbro does, there's a huge amount of lore in the main FiM series that tells you exactly who this alicorn character was and what became of them. Some of this was slightly steamrolled when they brought Sombra back as a villain for the final season of the show, but it's not impossible to resolve the differences with the addition of lore or headcanon. I only bring it up because it's funny to me that, unlike the Star Wars or Halo fandoms where side content often directly and canonicaly supersedes what happens on screen, the FiM Fandom loves to just chuck away perfectly good explanations and plot complexity just because it wasn't animated directly into an episode. It's quite an inversion compared to what you might expect, coming from other popular media franchises.


So birth of a very important alicorn could have been a mistake????


5:33 Hold it! did someone saw that rock that sawtooth tripped over?!? 😲😲😲


Bro
Am l the only one who catched that cliffhanger at the end of the video?

I don't see any comments about it..
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When my baby brother watch the oldest mlp I saw princess celestia was almost spread her wings does that mean she also like twilight that doesn’t know how to control her wing?watch the oldest intro  u will see her wing almost spread it’s the oldest intro when she look at twilights picture before she have students


I think that alicorn princess's  alicorn magic was stored in the grogar's bell


・𝓢𝓾𝓷 𝓬𝓪𝓴𝓮𝓨𝓣・


I think the alicorn mare looks like future Derpy hooves/dipsy hooves, am i right or wrong?


me: interesting theory
* deep rumble*
me: what the?...oh...its just fan-fictions


Maybe the alicorn from that story is princess Luna and I think those are her kids that's what I think I know I'm not a good My Little pony analyst but I'm a good analyst nonetheless


I think that the pony in the story of Hearts and Hooves Day is Cadence's grandmother and just like he said instead of cadence is  that was the product of this love story but it was her mother so can her mother blah blah blah she found true love and Cadence was made but the influence of a grandfather love potion might have been affected to Cadence genetically that's my theory


I think that um...
Well, maybe the alicorn with the love potion is cadence's grandma
That's possible
right?


What about the fact in your  latest alicorn video u said flurry heart got her wings and horn from cadence, so cadence would have been born an alicorn


Well, there's books from the creator of MLP. So the books are a bit cannon.


Is a mistake on the drawing staffs part and the thought no one would notice.

Sawtooth: It's a "heart and hoof" story time


if this pony was her mother i do have my own theory that every pony that is a alicorn and gives birth they will give birth to a alicorn the only proof of this is flurry heart or is it? What if cadence is a born alicorn herself? I could not find anything of her in the show or canon that shows her getting wings remember just because i didn't find any doesn't mean there isn't any. Anyway and i also haven't found anything about any pony saying she earned her wings even if any pony did it could just be a lie that she tells people. but i don't know just a little thought


Dear Sawtooth Waves,<br>Me and my sister think we know who Cadence's mother is!We think her mom is the person in equestria girls who runs crystal prep. In equestria games, we see the principal, it is not Cadence. Not sombra but, her mom. Running the school together as principal and vice principal. We also think her dad is the storm king because the principal, has the storm kings logo on the back of her chair, look at the bloopers for evidence. Thank you so much and please tell us what you think about our ideas.  (We are using our mom's computer by the way) - Your fans!

Dear Sawtooth Waves,
Me and my sister think we know who Cadence's mother is!We think her mom is the person in equestria girls who runs crystal prep. In equestria games, we see the principal, it is not Cadence. Not sombra but, her mom. Running the school together as principal and vice principal. We also think her dad is the storm king because the principal, has the storm kings logo on the back of her chair, look at the bloopers for evidence. Thank you so much and please tell us what you think about our ideas.  (We are using our mom's computer by the way) - Your fans!

Wow! I have to rewatch Equestria Games, but i think your on to something! We’ve never seen the Principal as a pony before, but since Celestia and Luna are princesses but in the other dimension they are principals, the Principal from crystal prep has to be important!! :)


Hear me out what if the princess who got given the potion was Chrysilists and when the potion broke she turned to hatred and that's why she feeds on love


Flurry heart. If cadence was born an alicorn, witch she would have been, then celestia and Lina’s line when they see flurry would not make sense. Because they would have DEFFINETLY been around to see cadence as a foal.<br>Correct me if I’m wrong, but it just doesn’t line up.

Flurry heart. If cadence was born an alicorn, witch she would have been, then celestia and Lina’s line when they see flurry would not make sense. Because they would have DEFFINETLY been around to see cadence as a foal.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but it just doesn’t line up.


Okay random thing I just thought of- what if that was crystilis (sorry I can’t spell her name) in disguise as that alicorn. She could have cocooned..Him..? (Idk how else to put it) Or maybe another changeling- or maybe another hives ruler. Also- simalar to bees, are there other hives of changelings? How were changelings created? And what hive was Queen cystalist originally apart of?


I think it is another alicorn that was in love potion story.


i  deff love the "edit" i was trying to <br>"edit" like this and its "ugly"😞😭

i  deff love the "edit" i was trying to
"edit" like this and its "ugly"😞😭


I think that's maybe princess amore she's in the history of the crystal empire she's not alicorn she's a unicorn she's old ruler of there , but I think  she was alicorn  but somehow she lost her wings  and she's kind caring just like cadence  so she could be .


It was Princess cadence Mom also somebody said about the crystal heart Why isn't it Drawing your allure It's very very mysterious


OMG when flurry heart was born celestia said the birth of an alicorn is something EQUESTRIA has never seen, not the Crystal Empire! Maybe that princess was a alicorn since she was born!<br> Or maybe she was born in the crystal empire, like that other comment i made!

OMG when flurry heart was born celestia said the birth of an alicorn is something EQUESTRIA has never seen, not the Crystal Empire! Maybe that princess was a alicorn since she was born!
 Or maybe she was born in the crystal empire, like that other comment i made!


My head hurts trying to figure out that mystery lol


Hey there! I'm early. Whoever found this comment, have a good day :3 (I never got one comments to get 12 likes, Ty!)

𝗜𝘁𝘇𝗚𝗲𝗼𝗿𝗴𝗲𝗛𝘂𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗮𝗿𝗮𝘁

𝗜𝘁𝘇𝗚𝗲𝗼𝗿𝗴𝗲𝗛𝘂𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗮𝗿𝗮𝘁

𝗜𝘁𝘇𝗚𝗲𝗼𝗿𝗴𝗲𝗛𝘂𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗮𝗿𝗮𝘁


Celestiasl's  mom is the alicorn princesses in the picture


"MAYBE THERE ALL IN SOME ALICORN CIVILISATION"

(see what I did there)


Although this theory is a possibility, there is a much easier theory that is said in My Little Pony form. If you read 'Twilight Sparkle And The Crystal Heart Spell' Cadence says that she was just a Pegasus as well as an Orphan. She took on an evil pony who was jealous of love and used a gem (which is passed on to twilight from Cadence) to take love from others. But Princess Cadence stops her and shows her love (which also leads to her cutie mark) and then became Princess Celestia's pupil resulting with becoming an Alicorn.


Ok off topic:

I'm pretty old but I still never got my answer qwq

I'm actually confused when human twilight went to ponyville. Like why was she a unicorn and not an alicorn like in the human world? Like she gets wings but in ponyville, she's only a unicorn?


I Imagine celestia and lungs family were looked up to What if the alicorns opposed celestia after she rid of her sister thinking she was a tyrant and celestia took the magic of those alicorns putting it in the amulet leaving her supporter cadence and this is what solidified celestia as a ruler


What if that Alicorn is the first queen of the crystal empire that Twilight talked about in season 3 episode 1


What about the kingdoms ponies like Princess Platinum came from?


I think that happened for the crystal princesse and smobra take over the crystal empire<br>You know cadence doesn't look crystal

I think that happened for the crystal princesse and smobra take over the crystal empire
You know cadence doesn't look crystal


There is proof of another sibling to Luna and Celestia b/c neither of them have a love interest and the prince that treats rarity horribly is cannonly her nephew so who are his parents?


lmao love all of your theories there so interesting

lol hi to everyone who clicked so fast-

@Dark(DW) I didn't mean it like that sorry it came off that way

@Tammy H i know isn't that what i said he always makes them interesting


Sad dark plot twist : that was Cadences mother.... And father.... Cadence was a mistake that was loved her father and mother were never taken apart and had Cadence by mistake until the father only loved his "wife" and Cadence as a filly mangeged to get her mother away from her father for long enough here's the story.... (Cadences mother will just be called mother and her father will just be called father)
Cadence : daddy!-
Father : HONEY! *runs to Candences mom and bumps into Cadence like she doesn't exist*
Cadence : daddy?
Mother : *see's Cadence and starts to break out of spell a little* honey your child.
Father : what child?
Cadence : I don't.... Exist?
When Cadence was about 10 but not a fillysitter yet
Cadence : mother lets have a girls day!
Mother : ok!
A while later the mother broke out of the spell faster the Cherrlie and Big Mac because she was already slowly breaking out of the spell then she left the father

Sad dark plot twist : that was Cadences mother.... And father.... Cadence was a mistake that was loved her father and mother were never taken apart and had Cadence by mistake until the father only loved his "wife" and Cadence as a filly mangeged to get her mother away from her father for long enough here's the story.... (Cadences mother will just be called mother and her father will just be called father)
Cadence : daddy!-
Father : HONEY! **runs to Candences mom and bumps into Cadence like she doesn't exist**
Cadence : daddy?
Mother : **see's Cadence and starts to break out of spell a little** honey your child.
Father : what child?
Cadence : I don't.... Exist?
When Cadence was about 10 but not a fillysitter yet
Cadence : mother lets have a girls day!
Mother : ok!
A while later the mother broke out of the spell faster the Cherrlie and Big Mac because she was already slowly breaking out of the spell then she left the father


Like, I'm in the middle of the video when a thought pops into my head, when the entrance into my head clearly says, "UNWELCOME THOUGHTS KEEP OUT!" anyhoo here's my thought. Cadence is Celestia's niece, right? maybe that mare in the story was: dun dun DUUUNNNNNNNN! Celestia's cousin/sister! I hope you look into that.

Also, As I said, This is in the middle of the video, so if im repeating what you said, sry.


1:27 but the alicorn ur talking about might just be a pony cause the rest of her body is not showned so she might not have wings


Him: Is an alicorn that we- Me: DID YOU EVER THINK SHE MIGHT OF DIED!?!


Not first but I will say it anyway. FIRST!! To be real I love you’re vids I am always exited for them❤❤❤❤


What if celestia took away their alicorn hood or they gave it up to the sisters could be the central power


I kinda want to know how you can become someones nephew or neice when theior siblings dont have any children does this mean there are other suiblings of Celestai and Luna we dont know about?


Celestia only has a sister. Luna, so how?


What if that Alicorn princess was Crisalis maybe when the spell was broken she got so angry that she kill him and became a changeling and when she says that they have no hearts because she had her heart stolen from her


First and sawtooth waves I’m one of your biggest fans


What if to free the alicorn she had to become a unicorn and then just got lost in history


I think it is the first princess of the Crystal empire


It would be nice if you made a video of Equestria Girls, not so long ago, you made one of Pinkie's clone. In her video, "The 5 lines you need to stand in" she went to a hotdog stand, and it's pretty easy to notice a person who looks like Celestia, and at the end, someone who looks like Luna. Are there clones in the human world too?????


Same pony and alicorn's age when the start to they get flowy mane


Okay so like. We know that the prince and princess became to lovey dovey bc of the love potion and twilight also said that bc of that the kingdom fell. Maybe thats why we dont see much royal families anymore?


If it was from back then on different tribes do you think it has to be Celestia and Luna's mom


What about that one paid dlc from the game loft game— I think her name’s like “Princess Amore”. I’m pretty sure she was in the the IDW comics but then again those probably aren’t canon


I disagree because Princess Celestia says that no pony has been born an alicorn in equestria before Flurry


I was making a video but this is more important 🗿


The only power Prince Blueblood has is the power of ultimate rizz   3:32


I personally think it's just a made up story. Ponys have only seen their princess as an alicorn, so they makeup a story about a princess, they make it an alicorn because that's what they think signifys royalty


In the episode "a royal problem" what if Princess Celestia had turned into day Breaker or something along those lines?


I have a question, if Celestia has a niece and Nephew, doesn't Luna have the same niece and Nephew?


What I think is yes in the picture it is Cannes mom but the 6 allecorn is lost because she does not have wings


Maybe you think about it for a sample if Kayden the floor feels nice then who is cadences mother that’s probably is her mother maybe Celeste had a secret sister


why are the alicorns/rulers always PRINCENSESS/QUEENS why not KINGS/PRINCES (except King Sombra)


Skews me is it okay if next time you can talk about that window where the students six and The space robot thing because it’s bugging me that no ones trying to unravel the mystery


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It isnt her mom in twilight and the crystal heart spell it said “she was a pegasus a infant alone “


Heres an idea from an old tumblr comic.
A Dragon Came
The Kingdom Fell (Could be the Crystal Empire?)
Chaos Reigned (Discord)


About alicorns ageing, Celestia and Luna were born alicorns, which explains why they live so long cause of some alicorn shenanigan. But Cadence wasn’t a born alicorn but that leaves Flurry Heart a mystery unless Cadences mum was a born alicorn. Cadence was a Pegasus and was adopted after her parents mysteriously disappeared. If Cadences mum was an alicorn, a princess in royal line, then her descendants were also alicorns. But in the book neither her parents were pegasi. There is a slight chance Flurry’s alicorn-ness wasn’t from Cadences mum, but a descendant from before Cadences mum. Do you suppose it… skipped? But then someone else in Cadences line made her mum an alicorn. Cadences dad was a unicorn, unless we suppose Cadence was an alicorn after her line of princesss’ husbands. But it isn’t fully direct at all. Unless her mum was a born Pegasus too and got that from one of the first princesses of the line.


Remember the MLP toys of the two alicorns no one knew? maybe it’s one of them.


When you realise mlp ended without celestia or luna getting a bf


We have seen luna became nightmare moon before so what is the possibility that chrysalis was the unknown alicorm who became wicked?


You know, or it could have just been a story =)


The problem with her being cadances mother is then shouldnt cadance have been born Alicorn like flurry heart


I personally think that it's a new alicorn we dont know


The alicorn in the story is probably dead as a result of her kingdom falling...woah.


I think her mother is Princess Radiant Hope Sombra's crush I assume this because we don't really have Sombra's backstory he might have also been an earth pony you know.

𝕊𝕒𝕞𝕡𝕪'𝕤 𝕎𝕠𝕣𝕝𝕕


Maybe the princess is chrysalis but before she became what she is maybe because of the love potion she needed more love so she asked a unicorn or some kind of witch docter to make it happen and thats why chrysalis is they way she is


Have you seen other videos on YouTube it's definitely Cadence's mom


donut joe look alot like the prince and maybe Fleur-de-lis was an alicorn but like Sombra got down graded


What if the daughter of the unicorn tribe was the secret Alicorn princess i think she found the Alicorn amulet and put it on and she became an Alicorn for years until star swirl took her magic away.


I read the title as the secret corn and thought that the picture was a piece of corn


1:11 there are now 7 known alicorns in equestria


ok so get this in seseon 4,terek took magic from ponies ,but he got magic from all the tribes ,so what I'm saying is that Tereck  had enoght magic to be a alicorn!


If Cadence is her neice. There had to be a third sister... Since Luna or Celestia doesn't seem to act motherly towards Cadence.


I think it is Luna they look the same and if cadence is celestias neese<br>well for what we all know Luna is celestias only sis and this might be a frozen situation in frozen Anna is used by Hans so he could have a throne and then he would kill the queen so if this was before the royal sisters rolled over all of ecaestry they could of had there own kingdom and celestias was Queen so this unnamed pony would plan to kill celestia after him and Luna where married but the really of this was the birth of the real first born Alacorn because in the baby sitting send she was really young I think Luna did not tell her sister that cadence was her dauter

I think it is Luna they look the same and if cadence is celestias neese
well for what we all know Luna is celestias only sis and this might be a frozen situation in frozen Anna is used by Hans so he could have a throne and then he would kill the queen so if this was before the royal sisters rolled over all of ecaestry they could of had there own kingdom and celestias was Queen so this unnamed pony would plan to kill celestia after him and Luna where married but the really of this was the birth of the real first born Alacorn because in the baby sitting send she was really young I think Luna did not tell her sister that cadence was her dauter


Princes Celestial and Luna has an older sister.


So the dad should have been a Pegasus?<br>Cause it is said that no baby has been born as an alicorn but flurry heart

So the dad should have been a Pegasus?
Cause it is said that no baby has been born as an alicorn but flurry heart


what if the secret princess is a unicorn?


Well my theory is that maybe we know the alicorn princess what if...................

The princess is chrysalis, it could explains why she feeds on love and perhaps its why she knew about cadances whereabouts and maybe just maybe the prince is king sombra aka king cobalt,in the hearts warming story he had a daughter that was a unicorn maybe that was cadence that could explain her "urge" to spread love


IF CADANCE IS CELESTIA’S ADOPTED NEICE, THEN SHE’S LUNAS ADOPTED DAUGHTER

Also... you’re right, there may be other sisters or brothers involved somehow... OOH THAT WOULD MAKE A NICE THEORY!


If Cadance (sorry if I spelled her name wrong) was born an alicorn, then I think the genes when on to flurry heart sense flurry heart was born an alicorn


but like didn't they say that flurry heart was the first pony born an alicorn??


What is there where alicorns who controlled Things like
Ice
Fire
Air
Night
Day, but most of them died?


What if the princess in that picture was Luna and her sisters mom when she was younger and before she met their father


You forgot to mention that sunny is an alicorn


I though Flurry Heart was yelling in the thumbnail because of the other pony. <br>👁👄👁

I though Flurry Heart was yelling in the thumbnail because of the other pony.
👁👄👁


Sawtooth has now become one with the Youtube algorithm


Why is Luna much smaller than Celestia? Or is she just small? I know she did become tiny when released from the moon but got bigger again soon. Also, why was she filly like when released?  And when Twilight got bigger, did Cadance and Luna get bigger?


I think if Prince blue blood and Princess kadience are celestias  Nephew and Niece wouldn`t Celestia know there parents? It asks it bit more then it answers. <br>But also what is the connection between Prince blue blood and kadience?

I think if Prince blue blood and Princess kadience are celestias  Nephew and Niece wouldn`t Celestia know there parents? It asks it bit more then it answers.
But also what is the connection between Prince blue blood and kadience?


Why do I feel like king sombra (somba?) Is the prince and the princesswe see got got her obsorbed from him years later after the hearts (cough crystal heart) and hooves day, king got overwhelmed cause the power wasnt his and now he's a red an grey villain king? Idk just a thought I had


I literally got here 5 seconds after it was uploaded.


Queen Chrysalis was around that time in fact she was a young pony


In a fan comic, Cadence's mom is a princess named Esmeralda


Hold on what if sombra is the boy from the picture while cadince is the alicorn?


Idk about this theory but it might be the fact that the alicorn that we saw might be princess ingrid the eldest sister of celestìa and luna.....


if prices celesta have ness and nephews do that mean luna is their mom or is it a nother sibling?


What about Blue blood though? He looks like the male pony in the picture . . .


Maybe the alicorn princess is the crystal princess


Okay I have one question in season 1 rarity mentioned celestia's nephew Prince something is that Prince Princess Luna son I could he be celestia's nephew from another sibling and if he is lunas sun who is the father???


Once it comes out you should make some videos on MLP generation 5


if prince blue blood is celestia's nephew she must have another sister or brother because it can't be princess luna ?


In the Crystal heart spell song cadence said she was a Pegasus infant alone. Maybe they we so in love with each other they left her alone so she wasn't in the way


Theory time so I  think that it's someone else bcz after your previous video I checked what was Cadence's age in season 9 so it told that it was around 200 it means when she was twilight's foalsitter her age can be around 45 or 35and the alicorn Princess we saw in the hearts and hooves day book she looked that she is 150 or something then blah blah blah and then cadence got born but somehow her mother got lost or something else and according to Cadence's backstory comic she was adopted by earthponies and then blah blah blah bcz according to the out skirts of a modest town line bcz she was sent there by a pony who wanted to rule instead of cadence's mom but she got defeated by celestia and luna but then celestia and luna looked for cadence so she could rule instead of her mother I think that place is crystal empire and then celestia took her to be her niece but she thought she was not ready at that time bcz she didn't knew Cadence's age when she was looking for her and she wanted someone bcz she banished luna bcz she said that she raised cadence up under luna 's name that your true mommy will return one day so the end


Technically 6 alicorns if you include the bad one


I think it could be queen chrysalis  , because  in my opinion  she was first ruler maybe  the one before  Amore  . And I think  in the book  of  hooves and hearts day the mare is chrysalis  and the stallion by be even sombra or possible  don't true shining . I think  chrysalis  liked him . That's  what I think.


what if the mother was part of the older main six.


Ok ok hear me out what if crysilis (sorry if I didn’t spell it right) was that princess but then she learned never to trust love again and that’s why she eats it


Celestia and Luna's mother is a alicorn and her name is Galaxia.


But do earth pony's even have magic? The only one that got magic back when it was returned was pinky pie


Maybe the prince and princess in the picture are the parents of celestia and luna


Hi sawtooth waves I think the alicorn is cadences mother but maybe its not it might be a different alicorn.


Remember that Queen in the movie or something in the play in Canterlot that Queen might have had Prince Blueblood or another Prince maybe not a prince at all


What if it was Celestia & Luna's parents?


So, if blue blood is celestias nephew. Does that mean that he is lunas son???😳


I think it might be parents or an Aunt maybe even grand parents


This got me thinking, what if it’s chrysalis? I know this sounds dumb but she does have wings and a horn. Sure she’s not a pony but what if she was once? The Alicorn was put under a LOVE spell and the spell can easily go very wrong so maybe the alicorn got addicted to the love it gave her? Turning her into a love hungry creature,  chrysalis. Maybe when the alicorn started consuming love from other ponies it turned her into a changeling because the power the love gave her was too much? In the movies the villains always turned into a creature from too much power so maybe it could happen to the ponies in the world the magic came from. It would explain why she was the ruler and why the changelings were only able to feel full with love from other creatures. Now another thing is how the changelings became a whole hive. Maybe the alicorn wasn’t the only one consumed by the love, maybe the guy got consumed too. Them together would probably make babies...?  But the hard part about this is where would he be now? I was thinking maybe he couldn’t handle the power and eventually died from it leaving no trace of him... another way to go about this theory is maybe chrysalis wasn’t evil at one point...but when the guy died she became even more love hungry, since she didn’t get love from him anymore. This theory sounds kinda far fetched but it was fun to think about:)


Can you do some theory about princess larva? We only had a toy of her


What if king sombra was the prince in the story 🤔?


I know What is the secret alcorn princess's name It's princess Amore


Pony revolution. Pony guillotine. wham bam no more royals ✨


Okay, this is super random, but I can't find season 9 anywhere except amazon, where you have to pay like 40 dollars us or something. If any of my fellow Canadians know where to find it, can you please tell me? I need to know exactly what happens, not vague spoilers!!!!!

Nina, A Random Hunter Of Artemis she, her


yes it does Sawtooth which is sad for Cadance's family   :(


Can you please do the Seventh element theory please there is lore behind and everyone is saying that it is spike that is representing acceptance.


what if the princess in the story is no alicorn but a unicorn


what if the secret princess.. turned into Chrysalis ? It might have been a curse or aftereffect of the love potion. What if it corrupted the alicorn, turning her into Chrysalis and thats why Changelings feed off love or why chrysalis is so aggressive towards friendship and royalty...?


OI heres a question for you to answer, how is Celestia prince BlueBlood's nephew. The only sister Celestia has as far as we know, is Princess Luna. EXPLAIN!


Right when he said secret alicorn I got a add about my little pony saying new princess alicorns in the all new pack XD


The question is.. If the story is true..


That makes it sound like Equestria was the holy roman empire all over again

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Man this allicorn stuff and royalty stuff just sorta throws my oc out the window lols


Maybe a huge earthquake or something happened because of some ponies trying to oearn more but it sent wrong And created a huge disaster witch caused a lot of the royals to protect their subjects but die in doing so but some survived and continued to rule but over fewer subjects because they fear if there are to many ponies another crazy pony will start another disaster.


I think it’s a secret our coin because if you pay attention to the show you will realize something well if you seen the movie but there’s something interesting like that and tell you I might be the most clumsiest pony


What if that alicorn was queen chrysalis!


I think the pony in the story is dundundun celestia but the prince in the story died years ago because he wasn't immortal


if cadence is celestials neice, that means cadences mother is celestials sister and lunas sister


Just saying the alicorn in the heart's warming tale story is definitely not cadence I don't have any evidence of that. * Sorry*


I think that the mother maybe d- by giving birth or the love potion worked off


She could be princess amora cadence mother she ruled crystal Empire as u said the love potion made them forgot about their royal duites


Okay so I think you're correct on it could be kittens is mother and father but what I'm thinking is that the princesses retire so maybe the father mother retired and are in the show


Someone help, you know that we have 2 twilights,but why  we  dont have sunset shimer


The ancient princess cant be cadances mother because her mother is the lost crystal princess she is princess amore surprisingly she is not an alicorn she is a tall and elegant unicorn


I think it’s The queen chrysalis Past time in the love before coming an evil Psycho


Wait wait no flurry heart. Celestia and Luna said that a birth of an alicorn is something they never saw so there can’t be previous alicorns


I believe it was Cadence's mother because Cadence was a Pegasus so she can't be a alicorn back then either she could only be a full back then because how would she be a alicorn right now


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, This is awesome 😍💕❤😘😍💋🌹💖


THAT'S WAT MY MIND SAID WHILE WHATCHING THAT VIDEO

I was like "hm her mother maybe I mean the power that cadence has so maybe it must be he mom"


Their actually is another alicorn her name is kauane


Hi Sawtooth I love your channel but I have to disagree but I have a new answer it is pause for dramatic effect dun dun dun dun Luna you heard me right  I think this because Luna and Celestia are thousands of years old and what made me think that is Luna  is… That is why she is never noticed and hides herself in the shadows (Meaning she is sort of secretive.) Well that’s my disagreement.❤❤ your channel please please please reply and if you think I’m rong prove it if you think i’m right explain.🌑🌑🌑🌑🌑✨✨✨🌟🌟🌟🌌🌌🌌.(these things represent Luna byyyyyye.)


Here is a funny fact princess amore was the first princess of the cristal empire 🤔🤔


Ok this is my second comment

I did watch many of ur Alicorn videos maybe even all of them
And yes my first comment said that Luna was still nightmare moon in the moon
So this is how I think the alicorn royal families rose and fell

For the basics this would take place during the celestial era which began after nightmare moons defeat and ended when nightmare moon returned

What we only know is that 1. The summer sun celebration and wonderbolts were created
2. Apple smith and her family was the key to founding ponyville
3 the rainboom happened causing twilights magic to activate making 5 others cutie mask + celestia taking in twilight

Because of these two big gaps in the timeline This means that royal families existed before twilight came into the mix
So here’s the full story (spoiler warning: I did made some stuff that could have happened but just let that sink in)

After nightmare moon was banished to the moon and the summer sun celebration+wonderbolts were created
Some powerful ponies had the idea of getting lots of support becoming alicorn and soon royalty and families

One pony named waterfall droplet a popular female unicorn married with a male unicorn and after marriage
They got real popular, getting exposed to all magic from all different tribes soon they became alicorns

Soon this idea spread throughout equestria and alicorn populations started to grow

Soon there were now 120 alicorns during the year of 1629
Some even made nations of their own

But then ponyville came in and celestia had more popularity (not because she founded ponyville :/ )
Some royal families had to learn that celestia resign was,ore important to the others

Soon there were 54 alicorns left

And then one alicorn drank a potion made by her husband they fell madly in love until it took control of them

Celestia had to separate them in order to break the spell

Soon royal families realized they had lost popularity due to what happened to the couple
Soon all royal families were separated and their alicorn magic faded away and due to their longer life span going away they lived until death from old age

Soon twilight came in taken in by celestia, made some friends, defeated nightmare moon and did all those those other stuff making her and cadence an alicorn

The end.

Until cadence gave birth to an alicorn named flurry heart who soon made it confused

And that’s how the alicorn royal families rose and fell


i think we are missing someone AKA Queen of the cristal empire


I think the alicorn princess might be katence mum


what about the queen and king character that only showed up once in mlp? I don't remember the episode but they were right next to the two princesses at the time. If I remember correctly that episode was before Twilight was a princess, but I mgiht be wrong


why do you always say two particular people angrily when mentioning alicorn tier


What do you use for your Oc? I have been watching you channel sence 2015


Or maybe the pony in the story couldve been a Pegasus and when flurry was born thats why everyone was shocked maybe cadance couldve been born with wings and a horn aswell, but idk maybe im talking non sense but couldve happened who knows 😅


It's chrysalis, Celestia is the shows true villan


Now then gen is out I wonder if this mysterious pony is the origin of villain opline


what if starlight is twilights sister because they have strong magic


There are or use to be Tribe of alicorns not in Equestria. Which is why Celestia and luna were shocked flurry was born IN Equestria. It's rare.


Hold up Luna and celestia we think don’t have foals but if they have nieces and nephews that means they have other siblings.What if they had 2 brothers!I can imagine the one closest to Luna would be midnight (he might be a bit quite but friendly).The one closer to celestia would be called ray(a selfless colt).that’s how I imagine it at least, but it is a bit weird.


I think the prince is the prince from the gala. When Rarity saw the prince


Cozy glow ! If celestia didn't give her wings or a horn how come before she met grogare shevwas an alicorn


Really? maybe its princess cadence although I love this theory


Well we’ll never know ‘cause season 9 ended like 2 years ago... so we’ll have to find it out our selves


maybe cadence is not the princess in the hearts and hoof day but maybe just a thought the princess in the hearts and hoof tale is cadance, great great great grandmother because sweetie belle did say '' a long time ago'' so we don't know how long was the long time ago just a thought


But bye this theory candence was born a allacorn but from the sisters we know that flurry heart is the first one


Why didn't the mare have a horn?<br>I think the mare is a Pegasus

Why didn't the mare have a horn?
I think the mare is a Pegasus


Nice hey can you add that unicorns and Pegasus are earth ponies too


NOOOO SAWTOOTH PLEASE READ THIS.

Cadence is princess Celestia's and Luna's niece. Meaning that PCelestia and PLuna had a sister who is the alicorn. I think that because they are both alicorns so they could have been born as them along with the extra sister. I think the extra sister fell in love with the stallion and had Cadence.

PLEASE I HOPE YOU READ THISSSS I BEG OF YOU.


you said that Celeste ya could have the princess of love as her as her niece, but that would mean that she would have more than one sister that would mean Loona gave birth to the princess of love, Luna's moon, which has no connection to love so technically you're wrong, but I still take your theory, but it would have to be someone of celestial bloodlike her sister, maybe she had up well, there you don't know a unless it's Michael, but now I like twice, I was a baby with you was like, 15 so technically yeah


HiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! i have watched you for a while now but i have a question when the storm kings magic escaped equestria and entered the human world and rainbow sunset and twilight went to the pony world human twilight discovered the magic of friendship and had wings in the human world but when she entered the pony she had none does this have something to do with her roles a a student not a principal ? or the time difference in the moon cycle? what does this mean for the people that have wings in the human world like rainbow and fluttershy? are pony twilight wings artifical or something? I NEED TO KNOW


WOOOW! The Game of Thrones in MLP   XDXDXD


I realized while watching this that prince whatever his name is because I don’t know how to spell it is not just celestial’s nephew so he must either be princess Luna’s offspring or Luna and Celestia have other siblings!!!!!!lol


Its queen chrysalis thats how she became bc it kinda look’s like it :3

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I think that when luna and celestia were still little ther were multiple royals, and one of them were cadence's mother and hr father was from a diffrent royal, as she grew up cadence had a rough childhood, so when celestia and luna where older they went to cadence's place and took care of her, and cadence parents kingdom went down and the other kingdom was very near too so canter lot was the last royal place left and celestia and luna helped buuld the kingdoms with cadence, they decided too not let the other old kingdoms to have a ruler and just be a normal town. And thats my theory so yeah sorry if its long


Maybe but Celestia said that flurry heart is first born alicorn so i don't think Celestia would not remmember that she born Cadents


But the mare can't be the mother of cadence because no pony has been born as alicorn


I personally think its prince blueblood and cadence since when they were young LOOK AT THOSE SIMALARITIES


I think I know who Cadance’s mom is

ITS PRINCESS PLATEN/Rarity when she played at the play
I saw the video when u said that King (forgot his name) lost his wings and that his daughter was princess platen what if he gave his wing to

PRINCESS PLATEN


My theory about alicorn become alicorn : because equestria need it . Like princess celestia and princess luna. they become princess sun and moon because when the princess siblings  age there's still a problem about sun and moon raising even star swirl have a problem about it to he need seven unicorn to help him. The alicorn of hearts and hooves day maybe once a princess of love in celestia and luna where they still young era and in that era's she became an alicorn because she can solve love problem in that era and maybe because she's dead or something cadance replace it as the second princess of love and how she become an alicorn is the same as the alicorn hearts and hooves they solving live problem. I mean twilight became a princess because she solving the mystery from star swirl with friendship and flurry became an alicorn because crystal empire need more light.

I really bad at English


I think that celestia and luna are immortal because they used to be connected to the elements of harmony such as the pillers and maybe even the mane 6 and spike and young 6. So cadence may not be immortal. But if she were that would be quite sad since she wouls lose shining armor. So that alicorn might be dead. And now that the mane 6 has been connected to the elements fot a while, they might have felt their own connection disappear and so their immortality. That s why they retired, they might feel their end coming up. After all, why would they retire just to spend the whole eternity doing nothing?


Him and the royalty in the ep Twilights kingdom part 1, those royals weren't alocorns


Ok this isnt relevant to the hearts and hooves storys but all the principals in equestria girls was alicorns so where is principle cinch  she would in this logic be a alicorn in the pony world wich means there is alicorns we have never seen but since most of the personalitys is the same with both human and pony i dont think that princess cinch (sounds wrong in my mind) is the alicorn in the story but cinch is probebly an alicorn and my or my not be out there (i will say i got this theory on a picture i saw on insta that pretty much said that cinch would be an alicorn so shout out to that post)


Celestia mother is Queen Galaxia and cadance mom is princess Amore


okay but isnt Cadince (idk how to spell) Twlights cousin or Aunt? (I cant remember) I mean, how would that affect the Famliy tree of this theory and timline? 👁👄👁

Edit: Lol babysiter I am dumb. Nothing would affect the timeline nor Family tree...


Completely unrelated to this video but since it is something to do with mlp,<br>Is anyone else excited for mlp G5 to come out?!

Completely unrelated to this video but since it is something to do with mlp,
Is anyone else excited for mlp G5 to come out?!


I have some dogs that are married and I know that they have not had a wedding they are just married same for other animals like horses. Horses are like ponies and ponies are like Pegasus and Pegasus are like unicorn and Alcorns are like Pegasus and unicorn so I don’t think any of them have had a wedding it’s just the two of them love each other A lot


I have one idea that we could theories

So you know that scootaloo is rainbow dash’s sister. In the show we not only see rainbow dash parents, we saw scootaloo’s parents too.
We met rainbow dash’s parents but scootaloo didn’t notice that they were rainbow dash parents.If scootaloo was rainbow dash’s sister then she would notice that it was her and rainbow dash’s parents a lot quicker.We also saw scootaloo’s parents which is a different colour. So why are they sisters even tho they have separate parents?


if cadance is celestas neice then that means that celesta has another sister


4:00 if this is true, Twilight is related to Celestia. Twilight:😯😮😀😃😆


i dont think cadens and luna or celestia was the secret alicorn  i think all princesses known her exept twighlight cuz in google i shearched is there a secret alicorn? and it says the missing princess so can it be her and she was missing!


or maybe that alicorn is princess Admore?


Princess Cadence is the adopted daughter of Princess Luna and the sister of Prince BlueBlood. So there is no way that she is Princess Luna’s real daughter.


What about the old princess from the crystal empire before sombra


I found Princess Cadence mother her name is Princess Amore😀💓💖💗


Im kinda curious what would happen if the equinox ponies tryied to invade equeastria who would win and why


How is Cadence Celastia’s niece? Who are Cadence parents then?


Thinking about something and I got it another Creacher are the king and queen like queen nova she look like cadance mom she is hiding it because king sombra can't find her she is sooo powerful and celestia ' mom is powerful too you know


six! If we are including Cozy glow. but techinally she isnt a true Alicorn


and I think that those royals are Celestia Luna Admore Chrysalis and Sombra


2 questions: 1-Do Aliens exist in MLP? if so then 2-is Cosmos an alien? This character from the mlp comics because she comes from space off the planet so you think.

I think that if Cosmo is the closest to an alien seen in mlp because there are time lines and dimensions with many species, it seems strange to me that an alien has not been seen or is that only Cosmo is the closest to an alien.

@Quinn Russ Well I mention Cosmo in the sense that the space came Discord will know, well, who knows maybe when that dimension began to exist, discord also began to exist is something full of mystery.

She doesn't look too much like an alien, but this got me thinking of Discord right away. I don't think he could be from Equestria, but from MLP, sure. Discord came from his own dimension, and maybe Cosmos did too. From the same dimension, I meant. She looks a little like Discord.


It  could be the mother of Luna and celestia ?


Imagien if the people who drew mlp just accidently drew wings and this guy makes two 16min vids


I think cadence and prince blue blood might be siblings


Maybe it was twilight on hearts and HoopsBut heart and Hops  day WasaLong time ago so Maybe it was princess Celeste Tia or princess Luna but the secret it’s too deep so baby it’s twilight


Could apple jack parents still be alive im mean they could just be lost in unknown lands in equestria


But if Cadance is that old then her relationship with Shining Armour is wrong on SO. MANY. LEVELS.

never even thought about that, but shiny is a full grown adult, he can marry an immortal goddess if he likes xD


I think it cadence mother since cadence gave birth to an  Alicorn, Cadence could have been born an alicorn.


i think that the princess could be cadences mom and the prince her dad maybe but like the prince looks like the donut pony alicorn fan made thingy


Wait so if Prince Blueblood and Cadence are the niece and nephew of Celestia, then are they brother and sister? Or did Celestia and Luna have another sister/brother that had kids in resulting to the birth of Bluebloodn and Cadence??


Ok same question is flurry heart still alive during the new gen Is she I mean it’s a gud question


Celestia just have another sibling other than Luna if she has a nephew (Prince blueblood)


Princess amore the original ruler of the chyristal empire


Mom of the galaxia is the mom the daughtur is luna and celestia


It kinda makes sense now of cadence giving birth of an alicorn


it can be if cadance's mother it makes a mystry but the alicorns can lose majic what if they where banished in a world like limbo and more


How did cadence get her cutie mark also when did she get it and why is it the crystal hart?


what if the alicorn was princess chrysalis and the spell somehow turned her evil bcs if im sure she's know as the princess of love and bcs the spell she was madly in love and thats why she feeds herself with other ponies love


When you used to think that mlp was just a little kid show you watched when you were 5 👁👄👁


or its chrysalis how she used to look in the past


like Hasbro has to make many portals to many other dimensions, unknown lands, past, future
So that Hasbro can continue the season of my little pony friendship is magic again
And don't forget Luna and Celestia returned to being queens and Twilight became evil characters many times so Luna and Celestia returned to being queens and promised their people
Luna & Celestia won't stop being queens forever
And so also flurry heart Dan Cadance together rule the crystal heart kingdom


Sawtooth waves actually may be eaten it is princess cadence the blue bro good with the print it’s


Or maybe queen chrysalis used to be a pony before and she pay different time


What if chrisallis was that alicorn like maybe she has been seperated from Her love and noqw tries to find it


What if the princess was chrysalis and and because of her alicorn blood she out live the prince and after he died because of the love potion she no longer could love so she started to steal love to try and eventually became the changeling queen.


It Could Be Accurate For That To Be Her Mom Or Where Else Would She Get Her Make People All Goo Goo On Eachother Magic


Maybe twilights new taker to be a new her might be sunny mom in the new mlp g5 movie that’s why sunny became a alicorn


Cadence,s mother is the one who is there.


Hello I am a little and I was just thinking what if you have the magic from two tribes Like to be a unicorn or a Pegasus


If you think about it in one of the episodes regarding the Galla, rarity wants to meet queen Celestia's NEPHEW!!!!!  But it's not Luna's son!!!!! So they have another sister!!!!!!!!


Well I mean- Prince Blueblood and Princess Cadence are apparently Celestia's nephew and niece.. But uh- Has anyone actually wondered how that works? I mean- They're obviously not Luna's kids, right? So.. Maybe there is another alicorn sister we're unaware of. Or brother. Who knows.


Well the mystery princess can only be…. PRINCESS STERLING AND PRINCESS GOLDLILY they wher mention in the cutie mark magic toys mlp

𝒞𝒽𝑜𝒸𝑜 𝓈𝓊𝓃𝑒𝒽𝒶𝓉


I’m VERY late :> but my theory is that it’s cadence’s mom that died long ago in the history of MLP maybe the heart and hoof day was just a celebration for people in love and not just  some  . Crazy love potion who knows maybe cadence’s mom is still alive and well and from cadence’s oldest home but I think she is dead  and cadence’s mom is celestia’s and luna’s sister and they broke the love potion for the kingdom of course cadence’s mom had a kingdom for herself far away from her child’s one who knows what gibberish MLP is hiding <br>and I think that  cadence’s mom  was not  “in love” with the person who gave the love potion maybe it was just him who was in love and not cadence’s mom I think cadence had been an alicorn all her life because I never really understood why she came an alicorn I think she was born naturally with it her mother was an alicorn  and if her husband had been a unicorn or . Pegasus then her daughter would be one naturally born just my theory tho sorry for some miss spelling

I’m VERY late :> but my theory is that it’s cadence’s mom that died long ago in the history of MLP maybe the heart and hoof day was just a celebration for people in love and not just  some  . Crazy love potion who knows maybe cadence’s mom is still alive and well and from cadence’s oldest home but I think she is dead  and cadence’s mom is celestia’s and luna’s sister and they broke the love potion for the kingdom of course cadence’s mom had a kingdom for herself far away from her child’s one who knows what gibberish MLP is hiding
and I think that  cadence’s mom  was not  “in love” with the person who gave the love potion maybe it was just him who was in love and not cadence’s mom I think cadence had been an alicorn all her life because I never really understood why she came an alicorn I think she was born naturally with it her mother was an alicorn  and if her husband had been a unicorn or . Pegasus then her daughter would be one naturally born just my theory tho sorry for some miss spelling


Ok we have nightmare moon and we have daybreaker and we have midnight sparkle the evil version of human Twilight Sparkle how about Heartbreaker I mean cadence


Are you gonna talk about G5 on this channel too?


Queen Chrysalis is a alicorn has a home and awings. your eyes!


Why do I feel like since furry heart is a new born so before she was born she was the princess who fell in love and then the king killed her? Or she might have died from old age


I think it’s a alicorn that you mite not know but I think it’s the mother of celestia and maybe caydence doesn’t have a mom

𝔸𝕨𝕙𝕩𝕧𝕚𝕓𝕖𝕤 ☻ ☆


But cadence was a filly when twilight was so this makes no sense at all.


I think the secret alicorn is cadasese mother


What if chrysalis was her mother, chrysalis would have ruled a land of her kingdom where ponies and changelings lived in peace. But one day a colt prince from a different kingdom is going around equestria to find a bride, he eventually comes along chrysalis kingdom. They meet and chrysalis does not feel it necessary for her to have a partner when she has shown she can be a strong leader, so the prince keeps trying and trying with no success. Untill he finds the love potion.  He uses it on chrysalis and she unwittingly is in love with him, and the out come of that would be cadance. I think that at this time chrysalis and celestia where friends,  so once cadance was born chrysalis gave her to celestia to raise as her niece. Chrysalis try's to gain back her kingdom with no aval, well except for the loyal changelings they get banished from the kingdom. That's what I think.


i think  the book's princess  is princess cadance.


I think the secret alicorn is actually not a princess but she was queen chrysalis before she turned evil


What if that’s a princess who had a future but then she didn’t because she was not in love with the prince it was because of a spell.


what if big mac was the prince they look a little simular.


Cadence was abandoned and adopted by earth ponies also check out the comments Sathwooth  same topic


It can't be blue blood he is a unicorn and the horse in the pic is a earth pony


But chrishlalus has wings and a horn so is chrysalus an alicorn?


what if it were luna that makes sense cuz celestia just happens to be cadence's aunt


I mostly think that the alicorn we see on the book is cadences grandma why i think that well i fell like it and i am very positive whitnit


It's cadence mother and now she is a legend and cadence father is legend too now


It says Equestria so Luna and celestia can be an alicorn in birth


So Is She Truly 100 Princess Cadence's Mother?


In my opinion i think cadence has a sister and not shining armors sister but i think cadence has a sister


oh oh i know who is the secret alicorn it should be queen amour she ruled crystl empire before cadence


I don't know because the prince just to make a love potion if you keep them away from each other the spell will break


Princess amore was the heart & hoof day story alicorn and cadence complete mane is princess cadence mi amore + princess amore was real crystal empire princess


I think it princes miya Mora cadnsa's<br>Mother

I think it princes miya Mora cadnsa's
Mother


Princess Gold Lily or Princess sterling ?? There was a Yellow and light purple princess G4 toy released


There is one more alicron. There are 6 not 5 the alcorn


Celestia and Luna‘s mother Galaxy and their father which I don’t remember the name


Tey 8 Alicorns in Equestria : Celestia, Luna ,The Alicorn we dont know,  Twilight,  Flurry Heart, Me Shine Star,Delta Brony and Luster Dawn but Cadence is NOT a Alicorn because in Day aria we not see real Cadence ’s Crown so Cadence is a pegasus.


I think it’s not an Alcorn I think it’s a Pegasus or a unicorn but definitely I think it’s 19 and says she passed away thank you and so so family so I guess that he gets his mama gave her wings actually so nice to give her wings to graduate from high school and and so on so Takumi she was a family and she was I thought she was one left that was a


I completely forgot that you're a changeling😳


its maybe the first ruler of the cristel empire


What if the princess wasnt an alicorn at all that would make other new stories


Ok now you aren't even trying  to hide it, whats with the flurry heart in the thumbnail.


Am I the only one who think that pony princess from the story may bee Queen Chrysalis? and that may bee why she is the way she is in the series? You know that the two of them wanted so bad to be closer, so that she got another potion so they could become one or the potion did it somehow. She does sing in "This day aria" "In my heart there is no room" be course that somehow the prince is part of her?


Mabey those are Luna's and Celestiia's  parents


I have a theory my theory is about cadence mom here my theory: if there is a secret Ali oen princess and as he said it might have been her mom ( or did he? ) I think there is a has ro game called my little pony in where 5ere is this unknown princess I don’t remember her name but she and pink hair purple fade and a snowflake type cutie mark what if that unknown Alicorn princess / queen is candace mom and she is the princess in the story could it be possible? Let me know what u think it was nice sharing my comment wiht you!?


Hey Crystal spell fit this cadance mother and father were lost and didn't take care of their child then cadance got lost and then the crystal heart story


It could be cadence's mom as you said that it is not the other princess and cadence was not there as you said it could have happened before her birth.


What about the ones in the game XD yup totally cannon alicorns XD


I think that his parents have government job in  Equestria like mayor mare and why it said he's a prince


Cadence started as a Pegasus.. she wasn't born an alicorn


trick question what if it's amore, the original one from the comics

What if she was reassembled but, at least a few parts were missing, but only when she has a complete body, can she have her heart back.


The princesses in the picture is a alicorn we don't know but the alicorn is a princesses


What if the alicorn in the story is not a alircorn but a missing tribe not in the story??


Do luna and celestia  call each other sister because they are real sisters or because they are both alicorns so they just call each other sister.


The prince have a same coler hair as cadace


I think it was her parents but they divorced and vanished..so that’s why cadence love helping love


It was Pinkie Pie she dreesed up as an Alicorn don't question me I'm positive


She could be cadens mother princess amore


What would happen if discord went into human world?


Lol in that time Luna was wasn’t there so it was just celestia

Luna was still nightmare moon in the moon

I know it’s just an error

Don’t get mad


The princess cadence is daughter of Amore


if cadance was born with wings AND horn i think its like a gen thing i mean flurry heart was born with them


Could discord and chrysalis where candice parents to the heRthsday


Not blueblood . The pony in the picture does not have a horn


I have somthing that might help you do another vidio. When the Crystal Empire redurend Princess Luna keept insisting to help Twilight and her friends save the empire. Why did  princess Luna wanted to help them so badly? (Sorry i don't speak English so good)


If it’s true cadence isn’t the first Alicorn to give birth.


Umm have anyone realized that there were 7 elements of harmony


Princess Goldlilly and the other pink one


and prince blue blood is cadence's brother


wait what is sunsetshimer 's cuty mark mean if you mind


Who is that Alcorn Princess and the mystery is the best


You have made a video explaining pinkie sense, what about Maud sense.


Why tf do I not get notified when you upload? <br>It feels as if YouTube is turning against me😳😔😭

Why tf do I not get notified when you upload?
It feels as if YouTube is turning against me😳😔😭


I think she was cadence mother because 1 the horn was bigger in the and in the real life it was small and also height and alicorn in the story could be princess amore the first princess of love


But prince blue blud is a unicorn but prince in the picture has no horn


Cadance was originally a pegasus which i uh- dont believe, <b>maybe</b>

Cadance was originally a pegasus which i uh- dont believe, *maybe*


One thing why cadince never show a clue  if she hade parents


Well Maybe I have the case that the alicorn princess would be cadence mom . AND I have a story that fits. Well long ago there was a prince and I dont realy think who is the prince in the story. But lets move on the story. The prince walk along  and when he was walking he saw a beautiful princess . the Prince and the princess were in love but they never see each other and one day the prince made a potion and let the princess drink it and they were together for every and they had a beautiful baby name cadence . and thats it well I think that cadence was BORN IN ALICORN. well lets look at this way when  cadence was a littel kid she was a alicorn and she is young to turn into a alicorn and I think that cadence was the first alicron baby to be an alicorn not flury heart she was the 2nd baby alicorn to be born I don't know about that but I think dont know?


If celestia has a nephew and a niece,and there none of Lunas kids,the 2 sisters has another sister or brother of cadances parents! Please reply!


Furry  heart is the  first alcron  born।

Furry  heart is the  first alcron  born।


Like Celestia's niece was cadence then what if cadences mom was celestia's mom's niece and before Cristal empire of found someone ruled the cristal empire before Sombra did so maybe that somepony can be cadences mom and when Sombra came cadences mom fought him but died. Can this happen??


Still waiting for the theory on apple jack's parents -.-


Ok what if they are cadences parents and it went something like this
Oh look the queen gave birth-And she died 5 seconds later hey new daddy you wanna hold your-nevermind you just killed yourself welp kid looks like your an orphan

Or and I’m just saying

The parents were so in love they forgot they had a kid and she got taken away from them because neglect and all that stuff and Cadence just doesn’t remember them

and because she’s an Alicorn celestia says
“You know what let’s just call you my niece”

So take it however that’s just me adding on to this


Cadence is do have a mother and her name is princes Amor


Am i an earth pony or a unicorn/pegasis or a allicorn?


Oh you mean one the alicorn sisters that you mentioned it trying to figure it out yeah I heard that one in the beginning that they are more than just 5 alicorns

Moonstone silver diamond team Mr. M the top heroes


you should make a video about celestial's nephew becaues we don't no his parents caues luna is'int his mum


What if the other alacorn is the Princess of " life " ?? Cuz life=love. Life cuz someone created you and love of 2 people or a position. (I'm 13 years old.)

I love your pfp! It’s snowdrop as an alicorn! I loved the snowdrop animation!


The book can’t be from cadence because because that if if it’s cadence that means shining armour is the other is the other one but shining have Arma has a full one and he doesn’t have a horn


I think that Cozy glow is the first alcorn

that makes literally no sense, since Cozy is A) a child and B) A PEGASUS.


I think Its princess Amore cadence's mother


cant the cutie mark crusaders become alicorn


I’m I can’t wait to see what happens next


It is her mother as the farther  of cadence  is  a Pegasus or earth  pony

OR  THE PONY HOW PUT THE LOVE SPELL COULD  BE THE relitive of BLUEBLOOD!!!!!


Maybe is Fllury heart or... Uhm...I think of that later?


ok so the 5 alicorn is katns mom ok it is a long rode  but it is a theory so katns mom is alicorn right so if the 5 alicorn is bron a alicorn it has to bee a origin story .


or jsut story got twisted so much so no alicorn was involved but someone spiced it by adding one there


Heey have someone noticed that the animals of the 6 no longer have appeared?


It is princess  Luna and king  sombra when Luna was young and when king sombra was not evil


Hello my name is Bella and I think there's more alicorns princesses


Princess cadence’s mom is princess amore


what if the queen of the changlings queen name i dont know how to spell is the prinssecs/love spell person i forgot my evidence cuz i mean to type this at like 11pm last night but didnt have the energy to and now is 5 am and i forgot my evidencee


PLOT TWIST the alicorn in the story, who is cadince (sorry if I wrote that wrong) mother. Is none other than, CHRYSALIS!! QUEEN OF CHANCELINGS!!


its possible but if the princess in the story an alicorn then chadance is an alicorn and we saw her as a kid and shes not anlicorn and if it is that the things that luna said that a birth of a alicorn has ever seen before


the pony in the pictureis are bluebloods father and cadances mother


Isn't it Princess Amore? The mother of Princess Cadence???? But, Princess Amore was never an alicorn.. I do not understand 😩


can you make a video about of princess Lauren pls


Do you think a episode in my little pony made a special explain this exact story


i think it was a super super super long time ago so it is a bit hard to connect it to today🤷♀


Never mind remember kittens and shiny armor Wedding


In derpy hoves s origin an ailcorn comes Ii THINK she is the one


My long standing theory is that this was a lost alicorn, she wasnt Cadance, as Cadance would have most likely been shunned if word got out that she had used a her magic or allowed someone else to use her magic in this way.  Also, Cadance doesnt seem to be old enough to have been an ancient love story. I think that this princess had once been a student under celestia (If you have a problem with twilight being the only apprentice, go watch the mlp equestria girls movies, you are way behind) and had been turned to an allicorn (celestia needed to learn and practice that spell somehow). She was charged to take care of a more distant land (Simmilar to the crystal empire) and at a summit a prince fel in love with her (Most likely an ancestor to prince blue blood) and decided he must marry her, whether she agreed or not (Henry the 8th), so he decided to have a potion made. He may have gone to a zebra, seeing as Zecora gives of the impression that zebras typicaly have a knack for potions, and ordered them to make a potion. The last day of the summit he offered her a glass of 'wine' and they instantly fell for each other. Celestia tried to stop them before they could be seen by the public, but it was no use. Eventualy they had to be detained by the royal guards (Making the guards for once not incompitant) and were seperated. The princess was stripped of her title and non birth given magic in a miss judgment by Celestia, and the people of her kingdom turned against her. Since we havent seen it yet, and never will see it, I like to imagine the princess was originaly an earth pony, and she went to live with some distant family members so she didnt have to deal with the overbaring shame that filled her when she would see her parents faces (Who became the new rulers, as the princess was un married and had no heir). She was erased from the narrative, but the prince eventualy confessed on his death bed that he had tricked the princess. When Celestia heard of this, she went to find the princess, but found she had died durring child birth. Celestia had felt horrible, wishing she could bring her back and almost cracking under the pressure of an entire kingdom, her sisters absence (After luna turned into night mare moon), and the guilt of her own neglegance. Instead she decided to make sure no one would be affected by the terrible potion again. She ordered a writer to make a short story about the princess, as to honor her. The writer had been told to not tell the recipe  but he didnt listen to her commands (Because this is Mlp gen 4 and Males are the stupider sex) and found the recipe from a jealous rival of celestia's. When he published the book he was put to stone, and all the copys were mandated to be destroyed, but a few remained as thurough check were not preformed.  Eventualy one of the last copys was placed in twilights library and twilight, being the bookworm she is, decided to read it one day, whixch was the day she ran into the cutie mark crusaders.(ps, sorry for any mis speling, its really late and Im tired but I had to give my two cents, hope you enjoyed reading this, Im surprised your still reading even after my random bablings.)


Okay for that to be Cadence's mom it will mean that Cadence was born an Alicorn and in the episode when flurry heart is brought into picture it is indicated she is the FIRST alicorn baby to be born. So no she ain't Cadence's mom

@Lucy Randomness ohhh srry I typed it wrong

@Comrade Abigor you said Candace when you replied to me

@Lucy Randomness did you have to put Cadence in '' ''?

@Comrade Abigor true, “Candace” was not born an alicorn, and instead a pegasus

@Lucy Randomness further prove my point. Cadence wasn't born an alicorn


it can't be cadance mother beacuse not every time alicorns kids will become an alicorn like twilight she become an alicorn but her mother and father was unicorns to the end


Like cadence grandmother when she was younger


I have a Thera that if star swirl  the bearded did make allacons made he but has a dark secreted to toher all allacons in the futurea like a side effect for giving them intense magical power which is the long lifespan to let them see all their dear loved ones die as they don't do you agree with this?


마이리틀포니 만화책에 썸브라의 어머니는 크리스탈 이잖아요? 무슨 연관이 있을까요?


hold on I have a theory what about Chrysalis her wings look like crystal if you look closely and so my theory is about chrysalis’s past..l have a feeling SHE IS THE CRYSTAL PRINCESS 👑 she WAS never mentioned BEFORE the new princess I mean maybe she tried to take the crown back ???????????????????????????????????????????????????


if Celestia has a niece and nephew doesn't mean that that Celestia and Luna have other siblings?

the other Alicorn could be the other sister of Celestia and Luna?


what about the books on mlp, is there any vlues in there?


Why do the pony sing a lot instead of My Little Pony they should be called the singing ponies of an orchestra


Help me i cant find my pajamas

Edit: nvm i was sitting on them while watching mlp theories


And so are your parents queen ocellus and king pharynx.


I think that her mother basically just protected her life and then died but there’s nothing really protecting that sooooooooooooooo


hey Sawtooh did u see the 5th genration its HERE well not realy but we have an short ! do you think you can make video abaut it ?


But didn't you say in your other video Princess Luna and Princess Celestia aren't really princesses?


cadances was younger them twilight when she became a alicorne  but how did she become a alicone


Blue blood has a horn so it is not that pony


Uhh is anyone gonna ask about where he went when he tripped and fell into that portal with the "Upload video" feature? 😅😅😅

@Sawtooth Waves oh wait in that case I wonder what you're gonna see on the internet this time lol

check out my channel trailer "i am sawtooth waves"!


When you started the video I was thinking celestia no


Maybe which Alicron you are finding it is pass


OMG OMG SAWTOOTH YOU NEED TO DO A THERY ON HOW KING SOMBRA MAY BE A CHANGELING AND UET VTO RUN THE CRYSTEL EMPIER WITH QUEEN CRISILES.... AND SOME PROOF IS THAT THEY ARE KING SAND QUEEN, THEY LOO SIMALAR. THEY BOTH WANT LIVE, QUEEN CRISLES WAS THE OLD LEADER  BUT THEN SOMTHING HAPPONED AND THN CADENCE CAME AND THATS WHY SHE IS ALL EVILO NOW...   THERES SO MUCH PROOF!!!!!


I Don’t mean to dismiss your theory but cadence is the adopted niece of Celestia and you were being adopted which means somebody had to have adopted Cadence and that somebody had to be Celestia sister but it definitely wasn’t Luna so maybe the Alicorn (the princess of stars(?)) that was possessed by the potion you’d be correct as cadences mother and Celeste your sister even though it’s not Cannon and this is just a far-fetched idea


Why was Cadence have wings without horn she was not a alicorn lol and flurry heart was so why was she not born as an alicorn ?


What happened to sawtooth waves at the end.


What if queen chrisystals was that pony there was reason she turn evil and what if that was the reason


You edit your videos with your Secret horn


If she has a niece and nephew then shouldn't that mean she has another sister or brother  who had them because from what I know for those 2 to be your niece or nephew you need to have a sister or a brother who had kids


or the alicorn from the book can be the muther of cadance and she got her powers by her perents cuz...her mum got efected by the spell if that makes sence...uh idk uwu i dont know how to explane good oof...


Candance was a pegasus before she was an alicorn dude


Why is there no boy alacorns  that is what I want to know Like why


I like this better than the other theory.


Lol what if king sombra was cadence's dad and celestia adopted her


Did Celestia has another sibling besides Luna


There are other alicoorns BC there are other pony's like me brother a dragon pony OR me sister bat pony i sm a bat dragon pony But idk of the story Princess i think it is  death But idk


Sawtooth waves if you think that comment from me is about the video that thing is on is not okay I'm just asking why do people call magicl girls Mojo's when they can just call the magical girls seems a little bit weird okay and also I created my own magical sea who is my original characte and please read this my account may look boring but read this comment okay.


Are you a reformed changeling or still a unformed changeling


you say every single week but you Post sometimes every three or two weeks


Do you think that maybe there’s will be  hundred Ali own and some pony killed them off


ɪᴛᴢ sᴜɴɴʏ ʀᴏʙʟᴏx


watch sombra story maby the answer is conneted


Are you going to touch the topic of mlp gen5? (sorry I didn't ask this in another platform I don't use anything aside from YouTube and occasionally tiktok)


I think your right cuz the alicorn was yah


hmmm.... are you sure about that boy  i think is a unicorn not the other one and another


I don't think it Cadance she look to young to be it


cadence's mom is princess amore  its TRUE


But she will still be in love and thay could have been dead


Tʜᴇ ᴘʀɪᴄɴᴇ ɪs ʙʀᴏᴇᴢᴇ

Tʜᴇ ᴘʀɪᴄɴᴇ ɪs ʙʀᴏᴇᴢᴇ


Celestia.  Luna. Cadence. Amore. Radiant Hope .  so on so fourth


Hmm you must know that prince is an erth pony no horn


cadants and criseles are in war and are sisters


Comments : Talking about things

Me: DiS aLiCoRn Is CrEePy


Finally I got to see this vid on the phone TvT


Sawooth waves where is sunset shimer element  she has a element  in loss memory but nothing equestria


I think it is not cadence nor the princesses because cadence earned her horn and the princess in the book already have it's wings and horn and besides it looks younger and the two sisters looks older.


Maybe look at all princess  front hair if it does not match then maybe it could be cadence’s motther


I love your video it very fun like like omg ong  la la


When you made the how dose the Portillo work I thing I no how it works. It work by magic


Wait maybe it's cadence  mom dad of its Luna mom or dad or celaceyah  omg am I wrong


hi I am moonlight sparkle, I think it is four de lis

Goddess Galactic Swirls Luxury(road to 200)


Maybe princess amor princess cadence mother


What is Chrisalis is the missing alicorn?


Hey what you have different flowers in your main evo


Changling, i forgot you where a changling


What if it is celastia or luna is it but if it is luna celastei safe's luna from the spell or luna safe's celastia


so i dont think i get how pony genetics work but pumpkin cake is a unicorn and pound cake is a pegasis but mr. cake and mrs. cake are earth ponies do explain please


I think is ms cheerlie maby she have a secret live


Is celestia and luna even married because celestia is over 1000 years old


Celestia and Luna and princess cadence have the


omg me field only now that the video came out on my birth day


Wait you transform like a changeling 😮😮😮😮😱😮😱😱😱


it can't be one we know just look at the hair

hair styles can change and grow over time. twilight gets flow-ey hair in the future


It have to be someone else becase cadance is allready meride to shining Armor  so it has to be some pony and pleas she has a Baby and the father is shining Armor so some pony else


Жаль что я не знаю английский 😭

Жаль что я не знаю английский 😭

Радужная Алина 357


Wait who or were is the other sibling of luna and celestia because if that was her niece and that one is her nephew there related and we don’t see luna having kids


that isn't cadence that is an other alicorn  princess

There are no other alicorn princesses. The one in the book was the result of an animation error.


Well if you can make another video and tell me your name this one video has 10 likes I just give it this number 11


You dont not jet bro prinzess Amore is the mother of cadence


Hey sawtooth I have a theory: going back to that one video you did about if there's other alicorns well there is! The point is you did get all the alicorns twilight,flurry heart,candence,celestia,and Luna but you forgot some when you talked about if there were more alicorns you forgot to mention the bad ones and I'm not talking about day breaker or nightmare moon or any other good unicorns that turned bad infact were not talking about any bad alicorns or are we? There is one that is an alicorn but is already bad queen Chrisalys she is an alicorn just a queen she does have wings and a horn hence the word alicorn (if you split it it's all icorn) but she's a changling  with horns and wings so she is still an alicorn so let's see twilight,flurry,candence,celestia,and Luna and the 6 queen Chrisalys but let's take a step back Luna and celestia both had parents if you look up celestia's mom this alicorn name queen Galaxia will pop up and if you search up Lunas dad this MALE and yes I said male alicorn need king cosmos will pop up
And Chrisalys must have been the 3rd ruler before she turned evil I think it's like this: A long time ago there were 3 rulers (the 3 others we don't know) there names were galaxia,cosmos,and chrysalis they were adored by all until one day  comos and galaxia were in love and Chrisalys was getting all the glory and she loved it so she made a love poison and gave it to galaxia and cosmos they drank and fell under the spell and we're unable to complete there tasks. Until one day when starsworld a birded knew what was going on and created saw a note he read it and placed it in a book and was able to keep them apart long enough to break the spell.then cosmos proposed to galaxia and a few years later she had 2 fillys named celestia and Luna and they all loved and adored them but Chrisalys was not having it she turned evil and tried to ruled the kingdom but cosmos and galaxia banished her. So yeah that about sums it up we still don't know about the 3 other rulers I think there lost in history
     But hey that was just a theory a mlp theory (my brain is burnt 😵)


Rainbow dash is 21 year old in pinkie pride count the candles on rainbows cake at  song at of the episode


You shode have made this thery in valintimes day XD to make it more of a joke i hope u have a nice day btw grate theries


Oh if cadence was in the book that was shining armour is the care because there’s never a king except for with King the Sombra before but why want to be like that I think that was before was


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<b>me</b> HAY MAYBE ITS THE LOST CRISTEL PRINCESS!!!!!!!! Bru your over thinking it theres a lost cristel princess and that maybe blue blud was the prince get it prince blue blud?

*me* HAY MAYBE ITS THE LOST CRISTEL PRINCESS!!!!!!!! Bru your over thinking it theres a lost cristel princess and that maybe blue blud was the prince get it prince blue blud?


I love Princess Cadence because my name is Cadence see my profile


What if it is chrysalis she my have been good A while before and the prinenes stuff that she thinks  gain up love


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3:39 it would also explain the severe lack of Alicorns by the beginning of the show.

We've seen the non-Alicorn royals of Equestria and they're so stuck up and expectant of praise, they do nothing to actually earn such praise, thus leading to the Snobby Elites, ponies who may indeed be royalty by birth, but do not become Alicorns due to giving their subjects literally no reason to praise them and therefore not expose them to enough magic from all 3 tribes to caused an Alicorn transformation


maybe this is just my particular interests showing through but I would love more theories on the politics of how noble houses converged as Equestria industrialized and centralized. But then I have this sort of fascination with the transition from feudalism to mercantile capitalism


Sawtooth with a flower in his mane is adorable 😊


I'm so glad someone could answer a possible explanation on how prince blue blood is related to princess Celestia and princess Luna.  It's a theory but it's closer then I ever got.  Thanks for mentioning him 🥰


I have a sort of multi-generational question/theory, we know that by the time of G5 beginning (which is still set in G4s Equestria but some time in the future apparently) magic has disappeared (I guess the main characters will do something in the movie what'll restore it and get their cutie marks in the process), I've often wondered/theorised whether or not that all the generations were not only set within the same universe but also on the same word as G4 with only a vast amount of time separating each era/gen and much of pony history of those had been lost, forgotten and barely even forgotten legend by the 'ancient' times of G4 & before Equestria was founded, I've read somewhere It's has been suggested by some G4s original Grogar might have actually been literally the original G1Grogar... Anyway, if the same world-multi-generational theory is true and this ties in the magic of Equestria disappearing, is it possible that even as far G4 (or even back as far G3 maybe) magic was already vanishing and not just Equestrian magic but form the whole Pony World... however no one noticed because there was so much magic concentrated in Equestria, particularly with the Alicorn & Unicorn ponies? (I wonder, which gen is the highest-ranking, not in popularity but in terms of magical ability & accessibility, etc..?)


I'm on the 'temporary alicorn' wagon, but I can't chose from 'royal-born' or 'fake transformation'.  A princess with an ego would especially try to forcibly change her form without understanding the costs and repercussions which could further lead her nation to ruin.<br> If being a ruler with a close relationship with ponies of all races can cause one to become an alicorn, then the revus should be true as well.  Leaving the heavy work to Celestia and Luna is not only going to physically cut royal ponies off from the magic of all races but emotionally as well which is necessary to activate the true power of an alicorn.

I'm on the 'temporary alicorn' wagon, but I can't chose from 'royal-born' or 'fake transformation'.  A princess with an ego would especially try to forcibly change her form without understanding the costs and repercussions which could further lead her nation to ruin.
 If being a ruler with a close relationship with ponies of all races can cause one to become an alicorn, then the revus should be true as well.  Leaving the heavy work to Celestia and Luna is not only going to physically cut royal ponies off from the magic of all races but emotionally as well which is necessary to activate the true power of an alicorn.


I think the mystery alicorn being Cadance's mother (or great/grandmother perhaps?) makes perfect sense, considering Cadance's love powers as well as the flashbacks in "A Canterlot Wedding". When we see her foalsitting Twilight, she doesn't look much older than Twilight herself. Then by the time of the wedding, she's full-grown. Which means if she were the princess from "a long time ago", she would have been a foal at the time (ewww) and then somehow stayed young all that time until suddenly growing up at the same rate as regular-pony Shining Armor. Much more likely is that the princess was her mother/relative and Cadance herself was born just recently.


I personally believe that one of the 'lost alicorns' would have been Star Catcher from G3. The way she had power over the wind and the ability to let others fly with her, and the fact that we see multiple spells in G4 that allow earth ponies and unicorns to walk on clouds the same way Star Catcher did for Sky Wishes who she later taught how to use that spell to dance in the sky with her friends. Even though Star Catcher was a pegasus she was uniquely designed with markings that honestly remind me of cadence so i think maybe she was related to Cadence since Star Catcher was a pony with the power to grant wishes. Which based on your theory would've been a great reason for a Stallion to seek her out as a bride.

Ohhhhhhhh myyyyyy godddddd connectionsss!!


if the other stories are cannon, then we know that cadence is related to the previous ruler of the crystal empire which adds up hence explaining why the heartswarming story princess is an alicorn and related to the previous crystal empire ruler.


Years ago, I read a headcanon made by InkRose about Crysalis being the alicorn in the book. It kinda perfectly solves your 'dead end'


heres the thing: if the mystery alicorn <b>isnt</b> one of the four alicorns, we confirmed the existence of another alicorn. if it is, then we get a huge piece of backstory for one of the 3. and given the context, it would likely be cadence. so either way, this is a pretty big thing were talking about

heres the thing: if the mystery alicorn *isnt* one of the four alicorns, we confirmed the existence of another alicorn. if it is, then we get a huge piece of backstory for one of the 3. and given the context, it would likely be cadence. so either way, this is a pretty big thing were talking about


I think that being an alicorn was a symbol of high status simply because having both wings and a horn would be stuff of legend, and having both surely meant you had a lot of power. The illustration in the hearts and hooves day origin book could just be a way to represent the princess as a very powerful, almost godlike individual. But this doesn't really help the theory and its probably not true lol


One thing ive always wondered about what with the enchanted comic in season 4 that Spike had. Was that another universe that was fixed, and if so  would your theory of Starlights multiple universes end up as comics too. I would love for you too look into this if you'd want. :)


How certain are we that the two alicorn silhouettes in the Crystal Empire's backstory were Celestia and Luna? One of the fighter falling in the battle kinda makes sense.<br>As for all the royals....... Harshwhinny listed off quite a list of titles usually associated with top levels of government. Perhaps Equestria is something of a loose federation with Celestia being both the head of the kingdom of Canterlot (which likely but not necessarily includes Ponyville) and the head of state for the body of Equestria. This also would explain why the map set a mission in the Griffin Kingdom as well as the various Griffins present at things like the Equestria games, the Friendship Summit, and Dash's flight camp. Those lands are part of Equestria but due to non-intervention clauses (a must if the separate original tribes were going to work together) no governmental intervention was possible and due to self isolation may not have even been known was needed.

How certain are we that the two alicorn silhouettes in the Crystal Empire's backstory were Celestia and Luna? One of the fighter falling in the battle kinda makes sense.
As for all the royals....... Harshwhinny listed off quite a list of titles usually associated with top levels of government. Perhaps Equestria is something of a loose federation with Celestia being both the head of the kingdom of Canterlot (which likely but not necessarily includes Ponyville) and the head of state for the body of Equestria. This also would explain why the map set a mission in the Griffin Kingdom as well as the various Griffins present at things like the Equestria games, the Friendship Summit, and Dash's flight camp. Those lands are part of Equestria but due to non-intervention clauses (a must if the separate original tribes were going to work together) no governmental intervention was possible and due to self isolation may not have even been known was needed.


The story said their kingdoms fell because they were so lost in each other's eyes they weren't ruling; that might have cost the princess her alicorn form.


Well if you remember from that episode the kingdom of that Princess and Prince crumbled because they were lost in each others eyes and were unable to do their royal duties. If we take that into account if they never looked away from each other they could have starved or been killed by invaders from another kingdom who ceased the opportunity to grow in power


Consider this:<br>If Cadence were the child of the prince and alicorn princess, she might’ve been neglected by her parents who were just too busy staring into each other’s eyes, so maybe her mother was stripped of her wings/horn and Cadence was put up for adoption. There she would actually be cared for. Maybe Celestia and Luna had adopted Cadence’s parents (as adopted siblings, doesn’t mean they became alicorns tho) which would make Cadence their adopted niece. Maybe Blueblood is a descendant of Cadence’s adoptive parents which would also explain how he’s Celestia and Luna’s nephew.

Consider this:
If Cadence were the child of the prince and alicorn princess, she might’ve been neglected by her parents who were just too busy staring into each other’s eyes, so maybe her mother was stripped of her wings/horn and Cadence was put up for adoption. There she would actually be cared for. Maybe Celestia and Luna had adopted Cadence’s parents (as adopted siblings, doesn’t mean they became alicorns tho) which would make Cadence their adopted niece. Maybe Blueblood is a descendant of Cadence’s adoptive parents which would also explain how he’s Celestia and Luna’s nephew.


As far as other possible alicorns missing, maybe they hide among the population in disguise.  As far as I can see, although not immortal, they do seem to be ageless, so there is most likely some more out there somewhere.  Ruling for hundreds or thousands of years would be tiring and they would want to pass the mantle to someone else at some point, just like the sisters did.

If I was an alicorn who recently retired, I would most likely disguise myself as a regular pony to enjoy my retirement with neither the paparazzi or fellow royalty seeking me every other day.  Of course, the requirement to keeping hidden would be that I will need to change the disguise and move every several years to prevent others from realizing that I didn't age, but it would be possible.


Okay okay! I love this theory... but I wanna add a bit.

Maybe what happened to the other Alicorns happened during the attacks on equestria (ie. Discord, Sombra, etc.) This is supported by the fact that the crystal ponies seemed to see Cadence as their princess despite not knowing who she really was.

Maybe Cadence's mother was the princess of the crystal empire, but after the prince used a spell on her, they became to infatuated to realize there even WAS a danger.

We didn't get told what kingdom fell to ruins in the story, so it could have been the crystal empire. Cadence was saved by factor of not being an alicorn yet and still being a baby, too young to know what was going on.

Celestia and Luna could have saved her before the empire vanished.

I imagine other threats are also why the other Alicorns are... missing.


The love of the world in the story is peace and I've been looking at that and I solved it.


I think by knowing the prince we may know who the alicorn princess is.
From what we learnt of Equestria's history after the defeat of wendigos they became united. Going back to the play they actually used a flag with the two sisters instead of sth else. I guess that means alicorns did exist when they were enemies but they were hardly seen. Becoming an alicorn means you get magic from all three types but to do that you need to cast a special magic or spell. Seeing that he needed to craft a love "potion" I think it was before the union. A kingdom was already being led by an alicorn. To sum it up: They are for more than thousand years ago, so they can't have anything to do with Cadence.
Cadence's past might be a mystery but alicorn foals are no different than pegassi, earth ponies or unicorns. She may have accindentally found this love poisen spell in a book and decided to fix it. Since she turned it into a seemingly perfect love spell she became an alicorn. As far as I know she was an orphan until Celestia saw her potential and kept her close.
Sorry if my useless bantering bored anyone who read this.😅
Edit: The love poisen may lose it's effect after one of the couples passing. The earth ponies unlike alicorns aren't immortals. Since they neglected their kindom a certain someone may have attacked and caused it to disappear. They may have been the rulers of Crystal empire. Sombra either killed them both or killed the prince and the princess crafted the heart to have it charged by true love and hold off Sombra but ended up killed or ran away and alerted the princesses Tia and Luna.
Or she may have been for the time before the two sisters and was killed.


Though my question is why Shining Armor isn’t an alicorn, though again, my explanation is he doesn’t want to become one because becoming an alicorn would make him look girly.


But as they said : A birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen


And that explains why King Sombra could have been an alicorn, and he could have still wanted his power when the two sisters came along, etc.