Is Sunset Shimmer the 7th Element of Harmony?

I think the element of forgiveness exists, take a look at my theory:
Every group has got a seventh member, the element of Forgiveness. Mane 6, now Mane 7 with Starlight, the Pillars, now with Stigian (sorry if I got the name wrong) and the human 6, now human 7 with Sunset. But that leaves a question: what about the young 6? It’s actually quite simple. They are the only group that doesn’t represent the elements of harmony, but their species. Furthermore, in “Legend of Everfree” Sunset receives a magic gem as well!

Actually, her paralell to starlight could make her be the element of forgiveness or even empathy. Think of it like this, after some tragic event in her life, the human starlight glimmer changes her identity to a person named Sunset Shimmer through some ancient equestrian artifact or something. It changes how she looks, her age, and erases her memory. She's teleported into equestria and lives as a unicorn and the rest is history.
That explains why we would never see the human sunset or starlight

Thank you. I am now very attached to this theory

With the power of foresight in the year 2019, I'd say she's the element of empathy. She's always been perceptive about others, and since she was reformed, she's always been the one of the group to sense when something's up with another member and will sometimes help them vent (like with Twilight in Rainbow Rocks). This evolved further at Camp Everfree when her power became reading other people's thoughts and feelings. Empathy seems like it for me.
As for human Twilight, it's less clear. Definitely not magic...can there be an element of science? Lol, probably not.

The Element of Redemption

I think that element belongs to Starlight in the pony world

I’m so late to the discussion: I’d argue that forgiveness is an element best represented by Starlight Glimmer. Ever since her reformation, she’s PREACHED the healing power forgiveness. She worked so hard to help Chrysallis to see that! Thanks for the vid, which gave me the idea!

She's actually the element of Empathy! It's been confirmed ^^

Here's my take on Sunset at the end of Rainbow Rocks: Twilight was used to the six friends she's been with in Equestria, but in the human world, there was another friend. There are still six Elements, but that's not the point. There's a seventh friend, and they need EVERYONE in their friend group in order to work the Elements. If this is accurate, the Mane Six will need Starlight Glimmer in order to do anything Element--related in the future (something I really want to see).

I think I figured out why their is a pony Sunset and no human Sunset. It goes like this : If Twilight (human) and Timber get married and has a child and Twilight (pony) and Flash Sentry have a child, those children won't be the same child. Right? Using that information ; if Sunset's parents in the human world never met, then Sunset couldn't have been born. That might even be the case with Sunset's grandparents, great-grandparents etc. It doesn't really seem equal in both worlds ( or could it be? ) but it's just a thought. Or Sunset Shimmer in the human world could just be hiding or something.

This theory is proven wrong in camp everfree movie because human twilight got the element of magic but sunset got a different element but I doubt it's the element of friendship... I think sunset's element of harmony will be revealed in the next movie

I think Sunset, Starlight and Stigian are the element of redemption and/or forgiveness. Stigian with the pillars, Starlight with the mane 6 in the pony world and sunset with the mane 6 in the human world. The young 6 won’t have one of those because they are completely different from the elements of harmony.

She is redemption. Its official and Sci-Twi is now the element of magic.

she can be the element of forgiveness

I remember hearing someone on the MLP Wiki(the one on Fandom) say that Sunset may be the element of Empathy.

When asked in mid-December 2016 if sunset is one of the Elements of Harmony, Ishi Rudell replied, "In our world she is the seventh element!" Later specifying said element to be "empathy".

In the opening episode of season 2 Discord remarks that the Element of Magic was the most elusive. I believe this is because it's very nature changes with its wielder even though it's role remains the same. When the sisters controlled the Elements it's aspect was Family, but when Twilight Sparkle became the Element Bearer it's aspect changed to Friendship. When Sunset Shimmer wielded it the aspect became Tyranny.

I have an important theory! I believe that Sunset is the seventh element of harmony in THE HUMAN WORLD. The other Twilight (the Crystal Prep one) is going to be the element of magic in the human world, but wait... who is the seventh element in the pony world. I believe it is... Starlight Glimmer! I not yet know what their elements are, but I believe this is what is going to happen.

I feel like the writers might be setting up for something like this, with a 7th element. It seems just a bit odd the both worlds have similar characters who could represent the same element. Sunset and starlight are both reformed villains, who are now spreading friendship and using their past mistakes to empathise and understand others. I think that they would be the element of empathy, just because they seem to do more empathising than forgiving. They both seem to hold grudges, but understand why someereacts a certain way.
Just my thoughts.

Ok so here is my theory
So in legend of ever free , sunset ponied up when she showed her care for her friends ( here is what she said : they are our friends twilight ) and the elements represent everything everyone should have . honesty, loyalty, kindness, laughter, generosity and magic are good things to keep harmony between us and friendship can also be helpful to maintain harmony between us . so sunset shimmer is a element of forgiveness

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I don't think Sci-Twi really replaced Princess Twilight. For me I'd say Sunset is Taking princess twilight's place.
And it's confirmed that sunset is empathy, though I think that'd be if she stays in equesrtria.
Maybe Sunset and sci twi share an element?

I believe Sunset's element is "empathy" because of her powers in Camp Everfree, she can relate to others and know how they are feeling. I have no idea what Starlight's element is though? It could be leadership, peace, justice or change.
Edit: I think Starlight's element is "forgiveness", because she forgave Twilight, Sunburst, and Queen Chrysalis.

Well technically there was 7 emelents in stone form when the elements were introduced and as you can see in the episode when spike grows up he had clearly stolen one of the elements that is still in fact in stone form :)

I think that in the human world Twilight still own the element of magic, but since her world doesn't have magic she's not as important, in term of elements, as her other friends. This leaves an open spot for a leader and Sunset Shimmer took that spot. I think there is a seventh element, but it boosts the power of the already strong other elements. I think this element can only be wielded by reformed villains, which is why Sunset Shimmer has it. Then in the pony world, I think Starlight Glimmer would have that seventh element being a reformed villain that works closely to the mane six. I just think that element hasn't shown up yet.
I also think that there are, 100%, other lands outside Equestria, because there are other high schools other than Equestria high. Also there are the Saddle Arabia deligets, even though Saddle Arabia it isn't on the Equestria map.

Looks like you'll have to revisit this. Legend of Everfree = 7 elements of harmony

I've heard that Sunset is coming back to Equestria in season 7 of MLP, and as awesome as that would be, what would it do to the balance? I have the answer...make the balance complete. If you think about it, with 2 Sunset Shimmer's being in the human world, it's totally unbalanced, but if the pony Sunset goes to Equestria, then the balance is back to normal because then human Twilight can show human Sunset about friendship and pony Sunset can be taught by either Twilight or even Starlight. What do you think of my theory?

I had a headcannon (braces for angry comments) that Sunset and Twilight were originally going to take the places of Celestia and Luna. Their cutie marks perfectly correspond, something to represent the day and something for the night. Sunset threw a wrench into all that when she was banished. She and Twilight were intended to become close and their friendship would awaken the elements, instead Twi befriended the rest of the main six and they took the place of Sunset. Here's where it gets kinda weird. Sunset still contains some of the magic that would have awakened the elements, so taking part in a spell (or song) using equestrian magic possibly created something new for her. It could very well have been an alternate version of the element of magic. It just makes sense to me since both Twilight and Sunset were in training at the same time along with who knows how many others. I'm sure Celestia took her time looking over each student at her school for maybe a small handful that seemed to fit with Sunset and Twilight showing the most promise.

In legend of the everfree I came up with this simple conclusion, sunsetshimmer is none other than part pony part pheonix because every time she gains her "alicorn/Phoenix" wings she reaches the highest night of her power. There is possibly no second Sunset shimmer because this example, I have no idea what discord is in the eg world because he is a magical creature besides ponies. I have noticed every time we see her with wings they are vibrant and feathery. I believe she possesses a great deal of majic like an alicorn but i believe she is an "alicorn". I think this is true unless I am proved wrong by MLP itself thus I will think of a different conclusion.

I like this theory but I have a different theory (this was not my idea I saw this theory in a video that I agree with and I’ve always wondered if it was true)
I think, Spike is the 7th element, well in the pony world that is.
If you think about Stygian is the equivalent to Spike, they’re both the overlooked “sidekick” that brings the 6 together. Without Spike in the first episode Twilight might have not listened to Celestia and just stayed in Canterlot, without Spike encouraging her to go and become friends with them they wouldn’t have been able to get the elements and defeat Nightmare Moon.
Something else that gives us a hint as there to being a 7th element is the rainbow and Spike’s well Spikes or horns or whatever you want to call them. The main 6’s element colors have always corresponded with the rainbow more or less, Twilight is like a Dark pink Dash is Red, Pinky is well pink, AppleJack is orange or yellow blue is FlutterShy and Rarity is purple. And its kind of their symbol as you see in the season finally of season 4 where a rainbow carries the chest onto the ground so “sprout” out the big castle. The main 6 each have a color for the rainbow except green, each pony’s element color has something to with their mane or how they look Spike’s spikes/thorns are green like the missing color of the rainbow. Another thing back this up is when the map summoned Spike for a friendship problem and instead of a cutie mark glowing for the pony’s Spike’s horn thingys glowed.
The video where I got some of the facts to back this up on and more are on the video I watched which you can go check it out it’s called:
“The 7th Element Of Harmony has been Found!”
And btw sorry for al, the grammar mistakes it was kinda rushed but you’ll understand it more or less

there is one problem with this theory that I see, and it's from the newest Equestria Girls movie, "Legend of Everfree". In this movie, the Elements of Harmony (at least I think they are) materialize themselves in the Crystal Cave in the Everfree Forest. There are 7 -- count 'em, 7 -- crystals that materialized into the Elements of Harmony in the human world. I have a theory of my own about the magic unfolding in the human world, but that's for a video, not a comment.

So is Sunset an actual 7th Element of Harmony? that's my guess. what do you think?

Here's my theory:She might be the 2nd Element the Magic,she tries to replace Twilight in the Human World,like in the original EQG movie she tries to show Sunset the Magic of Friendship,and in Friendship Games Sunset tried to show Sci-Twi the Magic of Friendship.Twilight is the Element of Magic in the pony world,but Sunset will be the Element of Magic in the human world and also,people are asking "Is Sunset Shimmer really an alicorn?"In my opinion,she's only an alicorn in the human world,but not in Rainbow Rocks,you see when she pony up it only show her pony ears,its because she's an unicorn in the pony world,just like Rarity's.In Friendship Games,she grew a pair of wings and a horn and uses it to defeat Midnight Sparkle.

Hoped this helpy delpy

even though this was 5 years ago, (jeez time really flies dosen’t it?) i really like this theory, it just makes sense! sunset shimmer replacing twilight in the human world, it’s perfect! and how Sunset Shimmer could be the element of Friendship, or the element of forgiveness, either way i like it! it’s perfect! love your theory’s!
oh and one more thing, what would sawtooth look like if they went to the human world? i would love to see that! <3

this theory is no longer accurate, with the two new movies. I believe that Sunset is infact not the element of forgiveness, but rather understanding or courage. She encourages people to be the best they can be.

I love how I found this video right after pouring my heart out on your other sunset shimmer video about how I think she's the one who truly possesses the magic of friendship lmaoo

But we now have the 'Human Twilight' with the rest of the girls; which now makes it 6 humans and one unicorn in human body that being 'Sunset', and I guess I can see her having "7th Element Forgiveness" rather then just being a tag-along to the Mane 6 like the way I saw her before.

But doesn't 'Starlight' qualify for that same element as well being reformed and all?

But when Twilight first became princess, Twilight's cutie mark was shown with ONE EXTRA white star. When she was a unicorn, there was the big pink star and 5 little white stars representing her and her friends. But when she became an alicorn, there was that one big pink star and then shown 6 little white stars and ever since. My side of the theory is that one extra star represents Sunset Shimmer as another element of harmony...


Hopefully this made sense and I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying that this theory DOES kind of prove that if Sunset Shimmer is the an element of harmony. I like ur theory too :)

Shimmer and Twilight act sorta alike so it's more like staring into a mirror at yourself. Shimmer is like Twilight in the human world while Twilight obviously in her world. Either way they both used similar magic along with all the other elements so I suppose shimmers element can also be magic in the human world and Twilight in EQ.

I think that this theory is right but instead of keeping human sunset in the human world and the sci-twi in equestria let's just switch it as we already know that sci-twi is going to stay in the human world so human sunset should go to equestria that would keep a complete balance by one sunset and one twilight in each world.

Empathy, forgiveness, redemption. To me these main three are what i think of what sunset element should have. i always liked idea of her being a 7th element.

As the new movies have come out with the new Twilight coming into play in Friendship Games, I want to suggest or ask that perhaps you make another video for Sunset's possible element if it hasnt already been revealed. Thank you.

I feel she could be the element of peace/reform (??)
Since her reform, she has turned many villains of the human world back to normal, so i feel it suits

I don’t think her element is friendship, I think it would make more sense as forgiveness and the original twilight as magic

I think she represents the element of Empathy considering her power to feel and see the memories and thoughts of people she touches

I think it might be the element of change. Do to the fact that forgiveness means they forgive other people/ponies. You could argue they forgave themselves but I feel like the fact when we see sunset and starlight for the first time they were very different with gaining friends they change for the better. Now both of them have successfully helped others change for the better ie Human twi and Trixie

Well I do think there is another element out there I don' think Sunset will weld it and I don't think it is the Element of Forgiveness. If anything I think it would be the Element of Love. Because there is no element of love and you would thought that would be the big boss because love is a force that drives people together,it can have people do amazing things,wars may even end because of love,love is bassicly the big boss in any friendship,and that makes you wonder,who weld the element of love?Maybe it is someone who is constantly in the shadows, he is there a lot and on screen but he is constantly in the main characters shadow,however unknown to him he has a destiny unlike any other,will a certain baby dragon confront his fate or run. Hmmmm that would make a great plot for the movie

Personally i think if Sunset is a 7th Element of Harmony, it would be Forgiveness. that is pretty much part of Sunset Shimmer's shtick. not only did the Rainbow from the 2nd Eq. Girls movie gain its red stripe, Sunset also gets a magical geode....if the geodes represents the Elements of Harmony in the Eq. Girl universe....then Hasbro had to make a 7th element as Sci-Twi takes the geode representing Magic aka Friendship, and as we see SO MANY times that both Magic & Friendship in this show are tied together being one in the same.

Eq. Girls Move #1 & 2 - she was FORGIVEN bu the human 5 & Twilight, and eventually through the course of the Eq. Girls franchise.
Eq. Girls Movie #3 & 4 - she assures that Sci-Twi will be FORGIVEN by everyone after the friendship games, and during the camping trip sunset tries to help Sci-Twi in FORGIVING herself.
Eq. Girls Special - Sunset FORGAVE Wallflower for wanting to be remembered and everyone easily forgiving Sunset, despite everything she's done.

Sorry for the wall of text, but...

So I actually think that, although its not 'balanced' as he says in the video, they will all stay in their universes that they all currently inhabit. I do, however believe that there is a 7th element. We see it in The Legend of Everfree, and if you look closely, we see it in Secret of My Excess (Spike's pile of stuff he stole). I think that Starlight will get this element if it is ever brought out of the shadows. And contrary to his statement in this video, I do, in fact, think that it might be the element of forgiveness. Just a thought though.

I have a theory: The 7th element: The element of forgiveness, was stolen from the tree of harmony, but due to it being so rare, it was fought over and eventually got lost in the world, never to be seen again. But what if in the next movie, Sunset shimmer returns to Equestria to help Twilight search for it

The element of forgiveness does sound sorta cool though.

Yes it is!
At the Legend of Everfree when the 7th mane defeats glorious, sunset shimmer joins the element.
And the elements was like her cutie mark, But....... the middle has her phonix wings<3
I knew it cause I watch the hole (allmost.... like this, equestria girs, frienddship games, canterlot high, etc)

I think I like the idea of the born human Sunset in with alicorn Twilight.I think the writers will chose this also for the convenience of the younger viewers watching MLP. It might be confusing for them to be seeing two twilights one unicorn and alicorn talking to one another.

Candidates for other elements of harmony off the top of my head - Courage, Wisdom, Tolerance, Balance and Modesty. I originally considered Forgiveness, but that could fall under the jurisdiction of Kindness.

people say that the seventh element of harmony would be something 'good,' such as forgiveness, inspiration, hope, etc. etc.. But there is no harmony without some bad. Ying and yang. No dark without light. There has to be an element of harmony that is something dark. That is if there is a seventh element. I think it would be the element of anger. I don't believe there is a set of DISharmony elements, rather two. Chaos and Anger (or something similar.) I think Discord represents chaos (obviously), and a as-of-writing-this comment, an unintroduced cannon character (including the movies), that could bare it.


Dunno, it's just a theory.
A PONY THEORY! THANKS FO- yeah not finishing this.

My current theory is that sunsets shimmer is something different. As we haven't seen the human sunset yet and there are no clues of there being one, I believe that our sunset is BOTH pony and human sunset. She easily adapted to not worlds without a problem. I believe she is able to do this because she IS her element. And that's how she was able to transform with so much power at the end of my past is not today. I still don't know what element she could be but everything is always a possibility.

I think sunset shimmer is starlight glimmer but in the human world. They both have similar voices and they mostly hang out with twilight and the mane six. But in the equestrian games, sunset shimmer plays an opposite role as being twilights mentor than being the one mentored like starlight. They are both reformed and could be a possible new element of harmony or princess.

When talking about Sunset's theoretical element and Twilight's element, you could call them The Twin Elements!

Yes, because at the first episode there where 7 elements then it disappeared and it was also shown when spike turned greedy and also they used 7 elements to defeat the dazzling and for human twilight
Is still the element of magic but sunset could be the elements of forgiveness or something else but I do agree sunset is the new leader

I would support the theory of the whole "balance" thing, but Friendship Games kind of ruins that theory. However, I like the idea of Sunset's element being an alternate and replacement of Twilight's

It’s just a guess but sunset can be the element of care or realisation I am suggesting this cuz in *legend of ever free*, when they were all ( mane 5) were trapped in the cage or something [which gloriousa (correct the spelling) created],the mane 5 represented their element by help the others who were trapped and the mane 5 ponied up.
When sunset and twilight came to rescue sunset practically begged her toto use her magic and said “ twilight plz u have to use ur magic our friends are trapped in their” then she ponies up and blah blah blah.......
we all know one can only pony up by representing their element
E.g. when flutter shy showed kindness to her animal friends she ponied up and u get the idea
So sunsets element cannot be forgiveness something a bit part of kindness and loyalty clashed that is sunsets element

I think

I think she’s tolerance,compassion,equality,respect,peace,help,love,any of those

Well apparently season 6 spoilers came out and I've heard now that starlight is transformed kinda like how sunset is, they've taken sunsets story and tweaked it and made it as starlight and your theory is kinda correct just sunset is the element in that world, now they are adding a new one to the pony world with starlight

if you're talking just in theory it technically would, but if you're talking about the show probs not. Even in friendship games we see nothing like NOTHING of the original sunset shimmer, either showing that has yet to have been developed or that it won't ever be. She has been in the human world long enough that she would have probably encountered her human double at some time. 3 years is absolutely long enough of a time so i don't think this would play out. As for somebody inexperienced with friendship, starlight glimmer takes that role in the season 5 finale. interesting theory though

What I think:
I think human twilight sparkle and human sunset shimmer should both represent the element of magic in the human world. It makes sense. Pony sunset shimmer would be better if she returns to equestria Because not only it will maintain balance between the worlds, it would also make it simple and interesting. Pony sunset shimmer could reunite with her family and she can live in twilights castle and help with twilight’s friendship school.

well there could be another element. hear me out. you notice how theres 6 points on twilight's element well each point could represent an element. so maybe instead of the other elements, the stars in her cutie mark just represent her friend(the rest of the mane 6) so maybe the white star behind the purple one is the elements of disharmony. anyway the 6th point on twilights element could represent the element of friendship
BOOOOOOM!!!!!

I got a major question.
Once an artifact in equestria is broke you can use a form of magic to fix it, (example is the crystal heart being fixed with a few spells and the crystal from flurry hearts crystaling)
But..how were the dazzlings in the human world fix their necklaces after the rainbows destroyed them in rainbow rocks. The necklaces provided the dazzlings their power of song. Yet in an Equestrian girls short the dazzlings return with their voices.
Any theories please I'm so confused.
Ty
Cause you can't exactly use magic in the human world.

Interesting idea.. I think your theory can be correct but I'm not sure if they would have Twilight from the Human world actually move to Equestria. It would be nice to see if Human Twilight would go to Equestria to visit and all, but then what about The original Human Sunset Shimmer..? Hope we get to see her soon since we've already been introduced to the Human Twilight.

Interesting idea.. I think your theory can be correct but I'm not sure if they would have Twilight from the Human world actually move to Equestria. It would be nice to see if Human Twilight would go to Equestria to visit and all, but then what about The original Human Sunset Shimmer..? Hope we get to see her soon since we've already been introduced to the Human Twilight.

Sunsets element should be the element of light. The Mane six brought light into her life. Her Cutie Mark is of a sun wich casts light and ,after being reformed,she helped others see the light in themselves.

human sunset should go into the human world, if their were 2 twilights it would just be weird

Yes it was confirmed that sunset shimmers element is empathy confirmed by luaren Faust the creator of the show, Which is a 7th element ( she answered that question at a convention)

Personally I think sunset shimmer is the element of passion because it's a part of who she is she can see things for others prospective sure but she had passion more than anything else and that will shine though more than anything so for all forgiveness might make sense in the short run passion is an undying flame and since her cutie mark is a sun it makes sense for her to have a burning passion for her friends and the mane 6 share this to like rainbow dash can be more honest than applejack but applejack is still the element of honesty

If we are to assume that the "human world" is our world, Sunset staying their long term is going to be a problem. She is in high school, but beyond high school it is likely all her new friends will go their separate ways. In Equestria the ponies are basically adults and already settled into their lives for the most part. Also, Sunset is going to need things like a SSN and such to function as an adult human.

According to the MLP wiki, it’s confirmed by the developers the she is in fact the 7th element, namely the element of empathy.

Now that you mentioned it there could be original human Sunset Shimmer too, because the Sunset we're familiar with is from Equestria.

I might be late in this video but since Twilight is the princess of magic and friendship I kind of think sunset is the element of confidence. I think of this because in Equestria Girls Legend of Everfree she was encouraging Twilight to be confident by using her magic and stop letting her think that she is Midnight Sparkle from Equestria Girls 3.

Actually number 7 is the most common number that I often hear 7 colors of the rainbow , 7 chakras of a person and 7 sacraments .

There is a possibility that not everypony has a human counterpart. Many of the background students don't appears as background ponies and vice versa, Sunset may not have a human counterpart

You know styria returned he can become the 7th pillar of friendship and in the human world the 7th pillar can be taken by sunset and in the pony world starlight It would be correct as all 3 of them had dark scenes in their life but thy came back to the light

I say that in the moment twilight switches worlds a 7th Element is created, also a bad power, for this 7th element to be needed. that one is sunset and it would be Balance, her cutie mark has a bright and a dark side, so that would fit, and first evil, than more evil was created, for balance, she turned good. and after twilight went back, the element of balance transformed to the element of magic, for the balance, turning back everytime more Power or better unbalance appears.( Twilight good<=>sunset evil, sunset good<=>twilight evil). Does this makes sense any longer?

I'm a little worried about human Sunset. What if she's a bully just like the Equestrian Sunset was before she was reformed? Also, does human Twilight have some sort of connection with her? And how can we be sure human Sunset isn't somewhere else? Before Friendship Games came along, I'm sure someone had the same thought as me.

I have a bad theory about it all. Their is a 7th element of harnomy, which is sunset in this realm and starlight in the other. The 7th element is forgiveness which was made toward sunburst in the episode where they went back in time, which meant it would have been there since the begining. Also luna since making the tantibus had to forgive herself to defeat it. In the other realm all the girls had to forgive eachother to become friends and defeat sunset. And the song, my past is not today, where she ponies up is true because the magic of forgiveness is very powerful however sunset and starlight aren't princesses and don't become alicorns because you cannot teach the element of forgiveness and therefore it's just seen is the element of friendship. Ponies have to learn by themselves to forgive.

Ishi Rudell confirmed it on Twitter: Sunset IS the seventh element (on this world only), but she is the element of Empathy.

but red is already an element of harmony already, although it is a pretty AWESOME theory

the everfree forest sunset shimmer and the equestria 6 (mane 6) receive the elements of harmony as gem necklaces including sunset shimmer.
Which means sunset shimmer is now the element of forgiveness but the bigger question is does sunset shimmer must return home or will there be another sunset. ~remember two actuate person/pony in the same place room, the original will disappear~ [Note: Big Bang Theory]

Hey Sawtooth while watching an Mlp Equestria girls video I had the thought "what if sunset shimer is the element of *Redemption*" Reason I think this? Well Redemption is a common theme Starlight, Discord, Stygian, Sunset shimmer, The Changelings etc. And they became friends with literally almost everyone the redeem. Think about it! :]

I believe she is the Element of Forgiveness.

Starlight is the seventh element in equestria she is the pony form of sunset, sunset was destined to be in canterlot high as the seventh element of redemption while starlight was destined to be the seventh element in equestria.
That's my theory

Now that Twilight is the element of magic in the human world, Sunset could be the element of forgiveness. However I always thought that it could be protection because she is always looking out for her friends.

It's basically confirmed Spike has the element of patience in the pony world and Sunset has it in the human world. There's too much evidence for it to be a coincidence.

I would rather have Sunset Human go to Equestria and Pony Sunset staying in Canterlot High.

It just feels weird having 2 sunsets in 1 world, it may break the balance.

she can also actually become the 7th when twilight tells sunset shimmer we need you

I think you should revisit this theory. As it would make sense that sunset has the element of understanding. Same with starlight. As both help others by understanding where people or ponies are coming from. Using all the information from all outlets. Mlp equestria girls, and all the shorts around each sereies (mostly equestria girls.) plus quite a few times sunset and starlight both say to others “I understand where you are coming from.”

What about in Legend of Everfree? The human twilight kind of replaces pony twilight. So is she a 7th element? If so, would she still be the element of friendship? Because if friendship = magic, and the human twilight also represents magic, then sunset shimmer would have to be a different element.

I think so because after watching friendship games I watched twilight pull the magic out of sunset when she touched the portal. That's why it closed, it can't have happened if she did not represent an element of harmony.

i think that human sunset would move into equestria and human twilight would stay in the human world. In my opinion i think that just would make more sense and would balance better.

I have to admit I was confused when you said human Twilight should live in Equestria. But all in all it does make sense.

I think there should be one sunset shimmer in equestria and one twighlight sparkle in the human world.  That way, all of them can be together at the same time.

actually sunset IS the element of forgiveness because ever since legend of everfree they got their geo's witch YOU said when you were talking to event horizon about discord's race on his channel (link here --- > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfq-md-bQpI ) YOU said that they were the human world elements of harmony PLUS ONE. so because human twilight was introduced in the friendship games and she got HER OWN geo in legend of everfree, sunset HAS to be the 7th element of harmony. and forgiveness fit's her perfect! she forgave herself for her own mistakes (sort of) and forgave wallflower in forgotten friendship (along with trixie) and forgave juniper in mirror magic and forgave human twilight in friendship games so... there


(everyone else, like and reply if you agree and think sunset is the best charater in the fandom)

well, I don't think. Every mane 6 have their element according to their cutie Mark. As Fluttershy's cuite Mark is a butterfly so her element is also a butterfly. I don't think sunset will be the next 7th element if harmony. You get my point right?

Maybe she is like Starlight not just because of the name.
They are really common
1. Both have similar names, (Glimmer: Shimmer)
2. Both are reformed
3. Both are students of Pony twilight
I think maybe starlight is the pony form of Sunset as we haven't seen the pony sunset

Honestly, I think its kinda obvious whether or not Sunset Shimmer is the 7th Element Of Harmony. If she wasn't the one of the elements, she wouldn't have "ponied up" and helped defeat the Sirens. I think Sunset Shimmer is the seventh Element Of Harmony.

do you know how i found out that she is the element of friendship cause in pony twilight case the mane 5 changed her she really dint care about friendship and also in sunsets case she dosen't care about friendship and then twilight lifted her and twilight went to equestria and mane 5 was taking care of sunset and she changed see twilight dint care about friendship so much but mane 5 changed her same as sunset don't it seems suspicios hmmmmmmm.....and not only that sunset knows about friendship more even tho she said in the first movie she dosen't know about friendship she does in magic school she did studied about friendship but when she dint get wat she wanted she abandoned her studies so at that point friendship inside her just got drewn away but it is still inside her she needs to realise it and seeing in sunsets case seems like twilight she makes mistakes and understands just like sunset so what do you think is it right







please ans:

Many have the theory that Celestia and Luna are going to be replaced by sunset shimer and twilight sparkle so.....the only way I think if it is.....If sunset shimer is going to replace Celestia, and twilight sparkle is going to replace Luna, it's only logical if sunset shimer is even more powerful than twilight because Celestia is even more powerful than Luna. Celestia can rice the sun (day to night) but Luna couldn't, which by that you know that the one in charge of the sun need to be even more powerful than the one in charge of the moon.

I've got a feeling that sunset shimmer is probably gonna go back to equestria. Since The Brony Notion mentioned that there's a human sunset shimmer, that sunset shimmer might find out there's another sunset shimmer. Same thing with Twilight because now at the end of Equestria Girls: Rainbow Rocks, they show the human Twilight and the Dog Spike. I also have a feeling we are getting Equestria Girls 3.

I think sunset shimmer does have an element,The Element of Forgiveness. Cause if you look at the the stones in which the elements of harmony in night mare moon's battle you can see that there are six stones around the big stone where the element of magic. If you count how many stones are there, there are seven stones all together.And the seventh element was waiting for the right pony to open it.And in your theory where the seventh colour appeared makes so much sense for the seventh element to exist,it was right in front of us this hole time.☺️

maybe all the ponies (like EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER) posses an element (who said it had to be good at first) but some are just more powerful than others

1: the element of harmony is basically the element of friendship because, harmony is peace or bringing back peace, BUT....... friendship is getting friends and if all are friends it makes PEACE!! But didn’t someone say sunset shimmer is the element of HARMONY??? Huh? HUH? HUHHH?!??!?

Watching this after Friendship Games. Human Twilight ended up transferring from Crystal Prep to CHS. :-)

But, the Sunset Shimmer we have seen belongs to the pony world, and if the magic has appeared in her alongside Twilight, the creation of a new element of harmony is neat...

In the friendship games it proves Sunset is the element as Friendship. And later on in Legend of everfree it shows Sci-Twi as the element of magic. So sunset and sci-Twi share the element of friendship/magic probably? Also in the deleted version of what more is out there (sunset's and sci-twi's duet) Sunset sings about being homesick of Equestria. And there's a deleted scene that goes with it. Along with a fanmade animation which shows sunset goes into a cafe where she meets up with princess twilight discussing about magic. Which meant Sunset going BACK to Equestria which would've changed the theory and proves it to be wrong! And though that meant= balanced worlds.

I think Starlight is sort of like Sunset an unknown element, I think now since Starlight is an friendship expert she takes the element of friendship! So starlight and princess twilight share the elemen of magic/friendship.

At first I thought sunset could be element of equality but now I think it could element of compassion since sci two alr fills in the role of magic and think sunset can be teh element of compassion

well if you go with the experience of friendship who says the human sunset shimmer experiences it so she can go to equestria to experience it since both twilights started out inexperienced with friendship and needed the main 5 to teach them. Im more curious about the guy the pony twlight liked will the human her fall for him too since only the 7 (main six plus sunset) knows the current twilight isn't the one everybody knows

Wait... That makes more sense. So when human Twi shows up in the next EG movie, maybe she or the other human Sunset will go to Equestria and balance things out once and for all?

In the pictures of sunset you see the crown of the sixth element. Now in the part 2 of the first episode you see the sixth element to. So if the element of magic is in stone how can it be in the pictures. If the pictures where taken three years before twilight even knew the elements of harmony even existed. P.S sunset's element is concern. you know for her friends. :) ;)

I do think sunset should have just been a side character I rlly like just the mane 6

I think that human-Twilight is human-world's element of magic, and Twilight is pony-world's element of magic. And personally I think that pony-sunset is actually Starlight glimmer, just as different person. And Starlight glimmer is pony world's element of friendship and Sunset shimmer is human world's element of friendship.

Sci Twi actually went to equestria in spring breakdown

Um... No... It might make sense to you, but there is one problem, if there both alternate but have everypony, then there needs to be one of everypony and everyone in each universe. In my mind, the magic will be seriously out of balance. Because there would be two of the same enity in one realm. Where if Human Sunset Shimmer went, her magic would be different from twilight's and take the place of Pony-Sunset's in the universe and create a balance. If this is too confusing, I'm sorry. This is just how my brain works. I have Autism, don't judge me!

ps: i love the enchanted part of your video. i love the movie, its my fave

The element of forgiveness
Sunset's element
It may be the key to defeating nertha permanently
reforming
Destruction is one thing
But nightmares could be reformed

I think that agree with the theory and your other Sunset theory, that she is a alicorn now. I also kinda agree with your forgiveness theory, too. I think if Sunset were a princess, she would be the PRINCESS of forgiveness and be the ELEMENT of friendship.

i don't think that Sunset will ever be the seventh element. And there might be a human Sunset, but we just haven't seen her yet. Probably there isn't human sunset or there is. It is true that that a seventh spark appeared but I think your idea of how she's the sixth element is true

i got a theory i want to chare with all of u, but first 2 questions:
1. what did sombra do?
2. what did tirek do?
well, sombra was powered by hatred, which can be told to be the opposite of kindnes. tirek made discord betray the mane six and his only friend, fluttershy, so we can say tirek is the opposite of loyalty. so my theory is that the next few villians will have characteristics or powers that are the opposite of the elements of harmony, until the most powerfull enemy comes who is immune to magic at all. what do u think? 

yes! sunset did replace twillight as the g harmony in the human world, just like twillight did to sunset with the whole celestias pupil thing

since sunset shimmer learned her lesson, I think she should be the 7th element of harmony.

forgiveness is a great element for sunset shimmer, that matches her mostly

I thought Sunset was banished from Equestria? It's been a while since I've watched the first one, but didn't Celestia exile her because she was becoming dangerous and wanted to take over??

I think starlight and sunset are variants of each other in each world.
Pony twilight and starlight and
Human twilight and sunset.

Sunsets element would be another variant of friendship and starlight’s would be something like forgiveness or change

If Derpy had an element, it would be the element of acceptance

I actually think Twilight's element is supposed Friendship, but she uses her cutie cutie to say what it is, because it's her cutie mark.

Rainbow has 7 colours. Every time when a villain is defeated there are only 6 colours. But in rainbow rocks there are seven. My theory is that Sunset Shimmer is the 7th colour of the rainbow as well as the 7th element of harmony.

i havent watched the video yet.i heard something of a lost element of harmony from a fan video called "ProjectII:Thundercloud".
its something called "Element of Determination". would that be the 7th Element of Harmony? idk i havent watched the video yet

after the fourth eg movie appeared, I'd say that sunset Shimmer is the 7th element and it really could be the element of forgiveness because she forgives sci-twi and helps her to forgive herself (kinda what the pony mane 6 did with princess Luna in 'do princesses dream of magic sheep') I would over think your theory if I were you

Well now that Twilight goes to Canterlot High now, Sunset will be able to go back to her home in Equestria. I'm hoping the 4th movie will explain the human Sunset Shimmer

You are actually wrong. It would be the element of love. Because in her song "My past is not today" she talked about how she loved her new life and her friends and if it was the element of friendship, every time she is around her friends and show friendship, which happens every time. she would pony-up always. So therefore, she has the element of love and she is the 7th element of harmony

The twilight in the new world would complete the six elements so I think the new worlds sunset simmer goes back and that would make balance and have the element of friendship in both world as a binding component

She could be the eleement of guidance and knowledge

She’s literally Roxy from Winx Club!

Sunset Shimmer's element has actually been revealed by the director of the Legend of Everfree- it's empathy!
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(Not trying to self promote here but if you're interested in seeing the proof + examples, I made a video on it)

There's already gotta be a human Sunset Shimmer. If Sunset Shimmer was originally Celestia's student before Twilight, there should already be a human version of Sunset Shimmer. So when Sunset Shimmer escaped to the human world, there was already a human version of her. The human Twilight that wasn't a pony is going to eventually go in the portal to the pony world where there would be a lot of questioning and confusion.

Wait a minute. If Sunset takes over Pony Twilight's element. What does that make Human Twilight? Their all a close friend group. And surely two people can't share one element. I think Sunset would also have more magic that Twilight (human) and that she was the one that might've deserved the element more. If Twilight can't have any of the main 6 elements, could another be forged? Maybe a new element?

This is impossible because if there was a 7th element of harmony it would obviously be in the show. The elements of harmony were also recently destroyed and if they were destroyed wouldn't the 7th element of harmony be revealed. But maybe elements are different in the equestria girl land and the pony land. The two places each have a connection to each other and I have a new thought. Maybe the mirror i s connected the the tree of harmony. But that's just what I think I love your channel and I subbscribed.

It would make sense, not just anyone could wield the elements. We see her main six and herself use their own version of elements to banish/defeat evil. I know video old but not help comment on it. ^^

Looking back at some of their episodes sunset forgives some villains so she's the element of forgiveness

But there’s a human Twilight now. What does that make Sunset?

I think that Sunset Shimmer does represent the element of Forgiveness

She is the alternative element. She is the magic element.

If that’s the case, then when Sunset first got to the human world wouldn’t she have found her human counterpart if there is a human twilight and a pony twilight which have met each other in the friendship games.🤯🧐

during the episode spike grows in his hored pile you can see a element still in stone so it means their is a 7 element of harmony.

1:37 to 1:42. Cant argue with that math.

Well, they proved that one false.
However, I don't think your too far off.
I think human Sunset will go over there instead.

Sunset shimmer is truly the seventh element she is the element of friendship
Twilights cutie mark is easy to explain the pink star with six points in the end of the star represents twilight herself the element of magic ,the six pointy end represents her friends rainbow dash element of loyalty ,applejack element of honesty,rarity element of generosity,pinkie pie element of laughter,Fluttershy element of kindness and last but not least sunset shimmer element of friendship

Well for me it is the seventh element because of the gems of what they call "The Elements of Harmony" and the Redish-orange gem might represents Sunset

she might be the element of fire friendship

I think she will either be the element of forgivness amd strlight glimmer the element of determination

It's confirmed she's the seventh element of redemption/emphaty and the color red of the friendship is magic rainbow.

I think it’s either redemption or forgiveness but over all I think it’s forgiveness because she was forgiven and look what happened to her!

it's actually canon that there are 7 elements in the new movie!

The writers have answered questions about Sunset Shimmer. First, they said that she’s the 7th Element in “our” world, and that her symbol is Empathy. They also said that she actually doesn’t have a human counterpart in the human world. That’s a real shame, as they could have done something interesting where human Sunset goes to live Equestria instead since this Sunset doesn’t want to go back.

I have heard an interesting fan theory that would have featured human Sunset. From what I remember, the human Sunset lost her parents in an accident, and becomes somewhat obsessed with obtaining power so she won’t ever have to lose anything again, becoming cold and calculating in her pursuit. Deep down though, she's just afraid of connecting anyone because she doesn't want to lose anyone she cares about again, and thinks that obtaining power will enable her to never lose anyone or anything she cares about again. Her quest for power brings her to Canterlot High, which causes a great deal of confusion since there are now two very different Sunsets, and so the girls enlist pony-Twilight’s advise when suspicious things around human Sunset start happening. Long story short, human Sunset becomes corrupt by the magic she seeks, and is defeated and redeemed by the girls and pony-Twilight, who then invites her to go with her to Equestria since she is still interested in magic and learning about friendship, and since she no longer has anything for herself in the human world. She goes with Twilight and becomes a new character in the TV series where she learns about friendship, magic, and the pony world. Something along those lines; I don't remember entirely since it was a while ago.

i’m kinda mad they didn’t make sunset shimmer green so that there’s one alicorn two pegasus two ponies two unicorns, and it can have the rainbow order that finally bothered me for a long time 😂😂😂

Sunset is the same as twilight like flipping over a coin but I have to things to say1. Friendship is the same as loyalty so sunset couldn't be the element of friendship then there are 2 of the same element2. There are no elements of a thing in the human world naturally and in friendship games the human twilight never goes through the portal and I think only the human elements of harmony are able to go through the portal and only pony elements of harmony are able to go through the portal

My theory is that she is the Element of Empathy, and that there is a 7th element. I also believe Starlight will be the 7th element in the pony world; and that Sunset and Starlight are the counter part of each other. Has anypony thought that maybe the human world was unbalanced \before\ Sunset came? That would explain a lot. I also believe that there has to be an Alicorn balance in the elements of Harmony (I have proof of this. In Rainbow Rocks after the red strip appeared they formed a giant Alicorn). After Twilight became an Alicorn it was unbalanced and they needed another unicorn. So the long lost 7th element surfaced. (Seriously in Magical Mystery Cure the lyrics: Life in Equestria SHIMMERS. Twi became an Alicorn at SUNSET. Coincidence? I think not!) For some reason maybe the bearer of the 7th element had to be challenged. For Sunset it was Rainbow Rocks (after watching the movie earlier I realized the Mane 5 weren't EMPATHETIC with each other.) Starlight's test was choosing between destroying Twi's friendships or giving ponies a second chance. So that's my theory! What do you think? Let me know! ~ Mintstar

He should update this

What about the GUARDIAN OF HARMONY?? Forgiveness fixes harmony,so its like a "friendship guardian"

I think she is also element of magic ;) just she became it far more complicated way than twilight.

you know i think she is the element of friendship cause in my research to had that my ans was friendship can't believe we both had the same ans but in some of my research my ans is still incomplete i feel as that sunset is starlight cause seeing in their case has somthing common they both wanted to leave friendship and became evil and byy trixie sunset knows trixie more than the mane 6 so there is a tendency she is starlight and also she can be the element of forgivness cause she forgives people more than anyone and she understands people yaa so my reaserch is still incomplete

But if sunset Is from equestria then there are 2 sunsets in the human world...

I'd just like Sunset Shimmer to be an element cause she's one of my favourite characters and why she obtained a gem,became the leader of mane 6,did a lot of important things,and finally hasn't an element???HASBRO WHATS' UR LOGIC

There might be a possibility that Sunset Shimmer is the 7th Element of Harmony. Here's my theory: look at Twilight's cutie mark. The sparkles around it represent each element. But there is a space on the right side of Twilight's cutie mark, which means that there is a 7th element! It may be unknown, but some of us know that it is called the Element of Forgiveness, which Sunset Shimmer may represent.

That could make room for 2 more Equestria Girls movies.

I would agree with this, but the season five finale turns this theory upside down, as does The Friendship Games. Sunset can no longer be the Element of Friendship, but is instead the seventh element--the element of Forgiveness, making her now Starlight Glimmer's counterpart. This means that Starlight does not have a human counterpart in the human realm, because she and Sunset are counterparts. The two Twilight Sparkles are counterparts to each other, with both having the same cutie mark.

I think Sunset is more of Forgiveness. If you don't know, she was forgiven for what she had done in the first Equestrian movie. Yet, it could be possible she could become Understanding. She had a power to go through what they are thinking and how she manages to understand like how she immediately understood what TS think when she was called as a "Demon Friend" along with Sunset.

The neckleses in everfree stand for the eliments of harmony
But if there are 7 eliments of harmony in the human world there must be 7 eliments in equestria
Maby starlight is the 7 eliment of harmony in equestria

i think that the other human version of Sunset Shimmer should be the one in equestia not the other Twilight .. .that way it would be a bit more balanced ... because it would be a bit confusing if both Twilights ended up in equestia

Sense but.... wouldn't it be completely awesome if sunset came to the series I mean c'mon it would be sooooooooo cool

The tree of harmony has only 6 elements. I don't think so because there are 7 colors in the rainbow. Finally, the seventh color is revealed as Sunset Shimmer. If there ever was a seventh element, another spark by the other elements of harmony would have to happen. When it does, it will have to happen in Equestria because almost all the magic is there.

I also know that movie! But..
i also think that sunset is the element of friendship.

Or Maybe the original sun set could go to equestria it would still be a balance 1 twilight in the human world and one in equestria same goes for the both sun set shimmer


I love your video's

Starlight Glimer and Sunset Shimer are so similar because they were the only vilians that have supass Twilight Sparkle once before losing then they get supass her with magic but also neither magic or friendship was the thing that defeat them but their desire for power and revenge that's make think, after reading about that, that they are the same person and that person is been apart that's why we were not able to see their copy on the other dimention because they were never exist and i think that person is twilight because many time they were able to be equal to her but could not defeat her in the end because she may know who or what they are? She meant to know every move they would do simplie by thinking what she would do if she was in thier place but which one is the Twilight or the Midnight that will be able to do that and why?

I think human sunset will go to the pony world well the other Twilight stays in the human world. Just my opinion.

Cool, I wish they would make a part 2 of that Movie where she replaces twilight!

I think Sunset being the element of friendship is a good theory cause as the title states my little pony;FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC

Sunset Shimmer might be an element in my headcanon, which is either Forgiveness or Empathy.

Twilight is the leader of the mane 6 (PONY)
Sunshet Shimmer is the leader of the mane 6 (HUMAN)
The season finally (PONY) Starlight Glimmer was accepted to the mane 6 to learn abot friendship. So she joined that list to. (0:01)
In the movie (HUMAN) Twilight was also accepted to the mane 6 to learn about friendship. So she also joined that list. (0:01)

I think it is something special about that...

I think my element of harmony is friendship ... but I could be wrong

if she were a replacement of Twilight and of Twilight's Magic wouldn't her cutie mark be the same as Twilights except maybe a different color so why does she have a different one if she were to replace Twilight therefore I think that you are partly right just you have to dig a Little Deeper because I think there's more meaning then her just being a replacement of Twilight because if she work a replacement she would the same cutie mark As Twilight and the same destiny of being an Alicorn and a princess and everything

Maybe the main 6 elements are primary and other elements like forgiveness are secondary

I think if human Twilight went to live in Equestria, it would cause a major imbalence between their two dimensions eventually

actually sunset shimmer can't be the 7th element of friendship because twilight is the element of magic and the princess of friendship so her element represents most since the show says friendship equals magic twilight is the princess of friendship and the element of magic so she's basically friendship=magic that's my theory

Wait... so umm Sunset is the element of friendship? But Twilight is the element of magic, and isn't Friendship Magic? How does that work out? I mean, it even says it in the title. Please answer my question @The Brony Notion.

Her element is friendship :>


Lmao this is a theory
Since when she thinks about her friends like in her line "our friends are in there"(camp everfree) she ponied up then when she helped the human mane 6 and her line "my friends are here to bring me round"(rainbow rocks) so ye thats just my theory

i think original human sunset will cross over to the pony world, because two of one person in a universe just... really doesn't make sense. it doesn't feel balanced. there will still be the balance of one being experienced with friendship and one not like you said.

ishi rudell confirmed that sunset is the 7th element in our world
she's the element of empathy

Or maybe, Human!Sunset go to Equestria, and Human!Twilight stay in the... "human" world.

In that case, the balance is equal in boyh ways.

SPOILER ALERT

Human Twilight might have been the seventh Element of Harmony in the human world.

i sorta agree with this theory, but Sunset would be good for Forgiveness since she was accepted into the friend group in human world, and there is an empty space (point) on the element of magic....

I still love the idea that Sunset is a 7 Element of forgiveness because what friendship with our forgiveness

She can be the element of hope

Strange I’ll have to see rainbow rocks to find out more about this🤔

I think human Sunset should go to Equestria that would be more balanced

New theory for legend of ever free.....I'm dying to know if they have found the element of harmony in the human world....what's the story behind them....

I don't think sunset could be the element of friendship because the six elements represen friendship and I think she can possibly be the element of forgiveness but not that element of friendship cause that's what the elements of harmony represent.

I honestly think that you are on to something, I will keep your thought in mind. I guess I have never thought of it like that. Thank you for giving me a thought. So what I'm trying to say is that I agree with you!

I think human sunset goes to equestria while the human twilight stays in the human world. and magic sunset stays in the human world while magic twilight stays in magic world. but first, we need a proper introduction to human sunset. maybe in the forth movie while canterlot high school is gone to camp in the woods they find her working there, idk. its my oppinion. this is the trailer to movie 4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YviHSTiwOWA

she is actually the the 7th element in the human world; the element of empathy; hence her power

I know that there IS a seventh element now!!! You just gotta watch legend of the everfree!!!! There's so much proof!!

Some youtubers say that there is a completely forgotten element the element of inspiration so are there 2 forgotten elements or what do you think?

Plus the element of friendship doesn't exist in only one pony the mane 6 bear 2 elements their original element such as magic,loyalty etc and friendship so sunset can't be that element!

Your so right because in the movie legend of everfree there was a red element that represents sunset shimmer

Starlight Glimmer and Sunset Shimmer are joining the mane 6.

Starlight is joining in Season 6 and Sunset is joining in Season 7.

Would twilights cutie mark change if sunset becomes a new element of harmony? Because she has 5 other stars on her cutie mark they must represent her 5 friends. Would another star appear?

Omgggggg they should do an episode where they REALLY need to use the elements but can't use them because they find that they don't work because a new element has been born and need a new pony who can represent it!!!!!

yes she is. the element of friendship (or something)

Sunset is not the 7th element. The elements of harmony are just 6. Sunset and Starlight are just an extra characters

I say human twilight plans to bomb equestria. That is my theory.

human sunset can go to the human world to restore balance cause if there were 2 same ponies/humans in both worlds, balance won't be restored but it'll just be wrong

I think it's true because the only time the pony twilight is in the friend ship games is at the end and sunset defiets the evil twilight with her power

The element of encouragement could be Sunset Shimmer's element right?

I THINK IF SHE WAS AN ELEMENT SHE WOULD BE THE ELEMENT OF *TRUST*! I mean, sure, forgiveness is a good added pillar to friendship, but so for trust, right? After all, after the whole "demon episode", she has to gain everyone's trust back right? Who else agrees?

OMG finally there is a video about me! THANK YOU!

there is one flaw. sunset's cutie mark is not a star, but a sun. and magic's sign is a star, like twilight. so sunset is another element bearer, not the bearer of magic. the time when sunset ponyfied when she forgave herself. she also became alicorn because she forgave human twilight. but it only just a theory

Someone close to me said that Sunset Shimmer's element was named something else. I will ask soon and I will post the name in the comments below

I think she’ll be the element of Courage

I don't think that there are only the elements of harmony there can be for example elements of MAGIC(the most powerful elements) or even DISHARMONY

She would probably be the element if Forgiveness

I think her element is The element Of Remembers

In an alternate universe, Sunset is actually the element of Trust

The 9 season is in YouTube watch it is really good I love it so much it's amazing and fun.

I really hope sunset comes back to the pony world so we can see is she really is an alicorn now :-) :-) :-)

HER ELEMENT IS FORGIVENESS

She could also be the element of redemption...

in legend of ever free near the end she trusted human twilight to use here magic to get them in. so she needs the element of trust

Twilight sparkle magic
Rarity generosity
Applejack honestly
Pinkie pie laughter
Rainbow dash loyalty
Fluttershy kindness
Sunset shimmer light
Starlight glimmer spells
Trixie lulamoon forgiveness
Spike bravery
THE MAIN 10 ELEMENTS

I have a theory why we haven't seen a human Sunset, I think that's because Sunset is the MOST POWERFUL PONY! Crazy right? But well,other theories say Sunset may become an alicorn,but I think even more than that in 'My past is not today"she gets Phoenix wings,and also Daydream Shimmer,who is actually the same,so i probably think she became a Phoenix alicorn,and she became so powerful,and she was before,but she didn't knew it,So maybe she is unique,or as well as Twilight,maybe she'll appear later on,what do u think?

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Well I think human twilight will stay at the the human world so will pony sunset in the hunam world they do not have element of harmony but they have magical necklaces if she return to equalstria she will not have any element or necklace it’s just how it is but sunset or twilight can be the leader of the human main six sunset have more possibility of being their leader

There is something I've been thinking about is who is the smartest pony among the mane 6? Does anypony know???

In my opinion, pony Sunset should stay in CHS, and human Sunset should go to Equestria.

If Sunset Shimmer has an element, what is it? It can't be element of forgiveness or whatever they say because there is NO element of forgiveness. And if she has an element of harmony, she would be needed in Equestria. Won't she?

Honestly I.think 2 twilights in one world would be to confusing.

ik this was made before the friendship games but now that it is out, human twilight going to equestria would no longer make much sense

But Twilight in the human world is Magic
So Sunset is Forgiveness
But where is the Human Sunset?
I mean can there be eight elements?
Because on the cutie map starlight"s
cutie mark appears on the map
so Starlight is the element of Magic
and twilight Friendship. I thought because
She is the princess of Friendship
But where is the Human Starlight?
Why doesn't Flash go to Crystal Prep?
Why doesn't All the main charaters go to Canerlot?
Why does Starlight Glimmer Sound like Sunset Shimmer?
Where is Timer and his sister in MLP?

it sounds like a good theory

or maybe she might take over twilight in the human world but with the new twilight ... mybee not
or maybe she might just be the 7 element either way good job sunset

You are making no sense this time

SHE CAN SEE THINGS IN THE MOVIE LEGEND OF EVERFREE! SHE CAN well i dont know...... the pony who has the power to see the past?or future?

The element of understanding!!!

if sunset is the 7nth element how come twilight is having wings in dance magic in the human world rarity does not have a horn so is twilight the 7th element?
and why does nobody have horns they have wings tho

but instead the human sunset shimmer will enter Equestria and join the other poneys in their world (in a poneys body). leaving the poney sunset shimmer in the human world (in a human body). that makes more sense to me.

Speaking of Sunset Shimmer... WHERE THE HELL IS HUMAN SUNSET ??? The Sunset we see in each movie comes from Equestria, so did she... Kill herself, sorta speak?

Here's a fun fact/question did u notice how the Main six are all turned into pony/humans in equestria girls movie the unicorns from my little pony don't have their horns a after transformation?i have no idea that's a fact maybe one day we can all find out together

I think the human sunset- shimmer will come to equestria because in the movie legend of everfeer Forest twilight ,sunset shimmer and the mane five got magic like twilight got magic to move things , sunset shimmer got magic of read mind and the mane five got another magic.

i think starlight glimmer will be the 7th element

I love that movie ,I have the CD at home

It is a problem with that.....there can't be a seventh element, cuz there has ALWAYS been and will always be just six elements.

Nice theory! :D

And starlight glimmer might be the the 8'th element

You Said... "In my last Video i stated, that if Sunset Shimmer would have elements it would be element of forgiveness"... but what Video You mean? I can't find it. And i must admit that i really more like thoery of 7th element, than Sunset being just other person for element of friendship. I also don't think that earth Twilight going to Equestria is good idea.
Especialy that i think someday Sunset could return to Equestria(maybe after they meet human Sunset? BTW i think that earth Sunset is Really interesting topic... I wonder how would she be...)... as alicorn... I think very possible, that when she faight with transformed Twligiht she become an alicorn.

I agree with everything but where the human twilight and sunset will end up I think human sunset will go in equestria since human twilight has best friends and stuff

No I think one twilight in each world and one sunset shimmer in each world that way it's balanced and fair

In the prolouge, there is a green element of harmony. Who's element is that? Is the mane 7 actually the mane 8 now?

Yeah I think sunset shinmers would be harmony, she is my favorite character and I act like her cause I used to be mean now I am nice, she is pretty too :D

Maybe Sunset Shimmer is the element of understanding bequese she understands Twilight that she has it really hard with working on a lot of things

I think this theory is wrong. Because of camp everfree, Human Twilight is the main element of friendship.

And as a Twilight fav i don't mind. (This is not hate)

I THINK SHES THE ELEMENT OF Bravery

She is the element of courage. That is what I think.

Starlight is the 7th element she is the element of peace

I think sunset is originally from the human world, she just doesn’t know it. Maybe she was sent/ wandered through the portal as a baby

My theory
Sunset Shimmer will return to equestria WHEN she sees her otherself (Human Sunset)
And she will be the 7th element of harmony in equestria when she returns their
Thats my theory..

wow I love the brony notion it tells me allot about MLP

She's probably the element of hope

She's probably the element of hope

She is the element of "Friendship"

The Brony Notion, actually Trixie is the seventh element, the Element of Forgiveness in Princess Trixie Sparkle by Magpiepony number 11. It's a really good song. ( Now I know, Friendship is Magic, When you forgive.) Please watch it.

The element of forgiveness should look like sunset's cutie mark just like the others.

she’s the element of magic in the human world. (pinkiepies smile sound)

acho que se tiver mesmo uma sunset shimmer, bom do mundo normal eu acho que essa sunset shimmer iria voltar para equestria. e assim nunca mais teria MLP EG

and so what is sunset's element at all? I think she fits better in the element of forgiveness!!!

rw: to me she is the 7th element of harmony to me ,cause the way i see it i believe it could be Reformality.

At a point I thought it was Ambition, because in the song 'My Past is Not Today,' she starts talking about ambition.

I think that the human sunset (the original human sunset) will go to equestria and the human twilight would stay because she Wang's to get to equestria and if twilight saw herself from another dimension we do not want to know what could happen.

2 Twilights in Equestria... thats sort of awkward. it might work for logic but it won't work for the show and movie. one in each world feels better

in sunset shimmer's time to shine the book she says realise my element of harmony is helpfulness

What if sunset was actually celestia's student? I mean,look at the powers she got when she stole twilight's crown,and she know that she was wrong on doing things and she may be the 7th element of harmony,maybe sunset was celestia's student

I perfer her "element" would be Empathy but this is my opinion

What if starlight is the 8th Element of harmony???

(including sunset) should it not be the mane (main) 11? Celestia,Luna,Cadence,Sunset-Shimmer,(and mane 6)

U know the sign on sunset's book from which she talks to twilight from equestria that sign could be her element

hi brony. I have a question for u in rainbow rocks when they defeat the sirens. If u look really closely at the magic ball at the end of the show u can see there is someone it but who????

She could be the 7th element

1:24 But if Sunset Shimmer becomes the element of freindship, she could just steal Twilight's place, if she comes to the pony world.

Hier meine Theorie :
Sunset Shimmer könnte das Element der Akzeptanz,des Verständnisses oder der Vergebung sein. Letzteres ist eher unwahrscheinlich, da es im ersten Film SIE es ja NICHT war, die verziehen hat. Daher würde sie entweder für das Verständnis (wegen Legend of Everfree) oder Akzeptanz (Da sie ihre vergänglichen Taten akzeptiert) stehen.
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I think Sunset stand for the element of accenptence or understanding. Why? Translate it by yourself!😅

Wait shouldnt the human sunset shimmer go to Equestria then? We havent met her yet, but it feels unbalanced

I think sunset is a alment of love 💘 💕 ❤

that sounds deliciously possible. sidenote you probably just launched a couple dozen new ships into the fandom.

Hey,I Have A Question For Ya!,What If Sunset WAS The 7th Element Of Harmony,But What Is Her Element Called?

I think she is! De element of empathy for some reason

She’s a element of vision

The rainbow isnt exactly a rainbow. They should change loyalty to a red color so sunsets element can be yellow

Actually its The Human Twilight will stay in the human world while the human sunset shimmer will go to equestria it makes much more sense in my opinion

I hope Haspro make a movie when the other Sunset show up

the year that u made this video was when human twilight wasn't introduced but now that she is the human element of magic I think sunset will be the element of truth since when she touches some one she reads minds. I may be wrong but its fine.

And if there is a cracked on the portal so that mean the element of harmony is in there because after king sambra destroy the tree of harmony the element just disappear so that means

Maybe she is but ... there is allready a element of magic!

yes in the legend of everfree the pendents are the human elements of harmony

AND WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST PRINCESS IN ALL OF EQUESTRYA.

Element of forgiveness/courage

I disagree. What happens when Twilight joins Canterlot High and displays the magic of friendship in the movie My Little Pony Legend Of Everfree Forest. Then this theory about Sunset Shimmer being the alternate one for friendship is magic.

I think she represents beleving

Elements of harmony:

Rainbow Dash:Loyalty
Fluttershy:Kindness
Pinkie Pie:Laughter
Applejack:Honesty
Rarity:Generosity
Twilight:Magic
Sunset Shimmer:Forgiveness

Sunset might be the element of peace.

true but we've and twilight has learned that Its not the elements matter its the magic of friend ship the elements were just a distraction so its there friendship twilight said it her self "twilight the element they'll be with us no matter what you're right about one thing apple jack but the elements wint keep us connected

I agree brony your absolutely right

update this video please with both rainbow rocks and legend of everfree movies. cause there is so much to explain and i belive sunset is the seventh element of harmony

I belive that sunset shimier is the elemet of the fire

Trixie is the element of forgiveness

I thought you weren't going to talk about the human Sunset that's not from the Pony world

But since there is another version of twilight she eventually join s the group

Didn't one of the.... writers? (i do not remember) Told that in the human world, she is the element of empathy?

Actually in the newest seasons none the new twilight or the sunset go to the pony world

What that just said off at internal chaos I would think it's the other way around I think human sunset Shimmer would go live in Equestria because you can't have two of the same people because the space-time Continuum or whatever would collapse if they ever got near each other so that's my thought

Sunset Shimmer stands for 💥Redemption💥[SIGH]

I don't think that sunset is the 7th element of harmony the old intro there is human twilight with wings

So the magic of friendship is in Cybertron? Lol 😁

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Ok so this might be crazy but I genuinely believe sunset created a totally new element such as sympathy or forgiveness and that maybe just maybe her and starlight share that element, the star for twilight's element does have 7 points so it would only make sense to me that sunset created an element the tree didn't think about before and now since the tree knows sunset won't be in the pony world starlight has to discover it? Idk it's just a theory but If you've seen season 9 you would know the trees powers have grown as it has, why did it grow? A new element perhaps? We will just have to wait and see

Can you do a theory about HUMAN Sunset Shimmer. Since the Shimmer in the movies is from Esquestria

there should be a 7th element of harmony.

I think that the real Sunset Shimmer should go to the Ponyville Equestria and the other one stay there

Sunset's element of harmony is empathy i read it on the My little pony friendship is magic wiki

she is the element of empathy can you help explain it please

I guess she also could just be part of the band.

My very first time watching sawtooth's theory as the brony notion about sunset shimmer

In friendship games we saw a human twilight so I think that she is the elament of magic and Maybe sunset shimmer and starlight glimmer will create a new elements called the element of forgiveness sense they both were forgives in the same way

can you make a neu theory of the 7th element of harmony?

There are 7 colors of the rainbow, perhaps sunset shimmer is the one of them

hey Brony Notion i think that sunsets element should be the element of reformed

I think that rainbow is the rainbow of friendship, it couldn't be the elements of harmony, beside if you look closer, you'll see that each color is each of their skin color, except sunset, because fluttershy's color is already yellow, so they use red instead. This is just what I think.

Twilight should be the mane 6 leader in ponyvile

Sunset and starlight have a real connection can you make a video on that?

I would have said it was courage. But you have a point

Where even IS human world Sunset Shimmer??? I mean seriously, before I watched Rainbow Rocks, Friendship Games and Legend of Everfree I totally expected her to be a character in one of the sequels!

Oh my God that's an easy question UC Starlight glimmer Trixie Sunset Salem of the Sun Starlight is Sparkles I guess and Trixie is a star Elements of Harmony before Princess Twilight arrived some new faces were and some familiar ones were included in the series but luckily I have everything sorted out I saved Equestria you should totally watch in Sarasota bearded series he said n

Makes sense 😕👍

so if you see some of the brony notin videos you will see that he says sunset shold be replaced as twilitght get it? now more intersting is if you see the stars ending you would see a orange star that star repencents sunset shimeer.

Wait wait wait but let's think about this, there HAS TO BE ANOTHER SUNSET SHIMMER IN EQUESTRIA GIRLSS!
Because she came from the PONY world to this HUMAN world and we saw there was A TWILIGHT in every world and so for everyone EXCEPT SUNSET SHIMMER!
SO MY QUESTION IS... where is the sunset shimmer originally from the human world?.. 🤨

Isn’t she the element of empathy?

I heard there will be a mlp movie,what about all the villians (exept discord & all the good ones) all the ponies imprisoned without magic,& them cant get the elements,but twilight has the book And writes to sunset And she comes to save them,that would be interesting

I think Sunset Shimmer's element is Empathy.

I think sunset is the element of change

BRONY MOTION
¿SABES SI ALGUNA VEZ SUNSET SHIMMER REGRESARA A PONYVILLE?

I think that human twilight will b replaced in the human world, but not by sunset shimmer, what if human twilight replaced twilight? And human twilight was the element of friendship? I know it's not much of a difference but put it this way: sunset is the element of forgiveness (or element of sunset) and she travels between worlds to help each of them! :)

If Sunset Shimmer is from the pony world (Equestria) , then where is the original human Sunset?

It kinda dosent make sense because sunset is from equestria so she's a Pony and as far as we know there isn't a human sunset

And starlight is also the element of harmony and sunset and starlight are alicorns like twilight

I think you are right about this

I think she is the element of forgiveness

She's already the main character

Awesome theory

Sunset shimmer is the element of friendship and starlight is also the element of friendship

Alicorn Sunset Shimmer theory video: Princess of Harmony (yin yang cutiemark sunset version omg!!!)

I don't really agree with sawtooth because if both sunsets were in the human world together than there would be chaos between the two I think that one of the sunsets should stay in ponyvile while the other stays in canterlot high and same for the two twilights

BTW, It's kinda weird. It's not the 7th elements of harmony, more like the 7th ELEMENT.

I totally agree with you I mean why is it all about twilight in both worlds it's time things change and about sunset what if she has TWO CUTIE MARKS I mean it is possible right? in one episode of mlp applebloom did get a lot of cutie marks and what if sunset has the destiny of forgiveness in the pony world and the destiny of friendship in the human world what do you think?

AWESOME VIDEO!

The seventh is love-Princess Cadence

I think that sunset simmer is the element of magic in the human world

I think that now since there is a human twilight and pony twilight I think that Sunset shimmer is the element of forgiveness so is starlight glimmer.

Magically it is'nt because both twi's and pony sunset are expirinced with the magic of friendship

She really need the magic

you know how there are two Apple jack's, two rarities's and so on, well since we haven't seen another sunset ( who is the element of fegivnes) there must be another element of fegivnes but her name. is...............STARLIGHT GLIMER!!!!!!

Your right sunset is the 7th element

maybe twilight from the human worldis replacing human sunset because in ponyville starlight seems to be learning about friendship as the 7th person of the elements when in the human world twilight seems tobe the 7th person of the elements

since sunset came from equestria shouldn't there be another sunset in the human world?

The creators of the show called Sunset Shimmer the element of empathy.

hmm,I think you right,because sunset replace twilight at the human world,while twilight at equestria

Sunsets element is forgiveness
So you are right

In the story there is the green wone!

she has an element but i don't know what it is but i know that her element exists in the human world

wait I think that sunset shimmer is the 7th element I mean I was thinking about that what if sunset shimmer has the 7th element in her ??? Man I wish sunset shimmer would come to the season 5

Sunset should be the element forgiveness, your right. But, did you see the sixth element on the nightmare moon episodes? There was supposed to be five there, but instead six. Mistake or not, Spike also stole a element still in stone on that "greedy episode".

I think star light glimmer is the violent élément

I think your theory is wrong because if the characters that didn't experienced the magic of friendship go to different worlds, they wouldn't understand the different worlds.

I think that other Subset should go to the pony world and other Twilight should be in the human world

The pony sunset was the one in the movie but how come she hasn't seen her human self?

Sunset shimmer is element of forgiveness and starlight is element of peace

I ❤ MLP

Well, i think sunset is the Element of empathy.

In equestria I think spike should be a 7th element and what about Sci twi

good theory!

I think she is the element of human magic

It makes sense to me

2:35 What if human Sunset will stay in Equestria?

Mlp better have a villain more powerful than the elements of harmony

wait so is twilight the princess of friendship or magic cause her cutie mark is magic that represents what they do like the other princesses but what she is doing is spreading friendship not magic but that say friendship is magic so I think the those 2 words in this show means the same thing

Love it!!
Sunset shimmer the element of friendship!!;)

Starlight-8th
Trixie-9th

I think sunset shimmer should stay the element of forgiveness

Human Sunset Shimmer is the villain of EQG4. She actually imprisons pony shimmer and poses as her in public to keep pony sunny and her friends from ruining her plans for the everfree forest.

what is better than Twilight Sparkle? Only two Twilights Sparkle! \0/
it leads to some conclusion about the best pony...

didn't celestia say "due to sunset being there, there would been no twilight. if the entire 6 went, it would ruin the balance of harmony" or something like that........ :T

One more factor that supports this theory(the one that they may be the same person.... hmm are they? There is a lot of evidence pointing towards it!) is that their names mean basically the same thing or about the same thing as twilight is the time when there is a balance between the sun and the moon and sunset kinda also means the same! But hey, its just a theory!

maybe in the next movie we see human sunset and maybe she will replace pony sunset

IN SOME FILMS SUNSET SHIMMER IS THE 7TH ELEMENT OF HARMONY SOOOO SHE MIGHT be?

i watched enchanded and sunset definetly (:

I agree with u but wouldn't the real human sunset shimmer be incomplete in the pony world shouldn't she be confused in the pony world wouldn't the other pony be asking her so many question on where she went and she can't tell them she is a human that is now a pony .