my theory is that the original Sunset Shimmer doesn't exist as long as Sunset Shimmer is there. like, she faded from that realm as Sunset Shimmer entered it.

That just proves that Pinkie knew of the original Twilight. The memory of Twilight doesn't dissappear. She does but not her. And besides.. Pinkie Pie is we'll Pinkie pie

@Kirsten gregory that is already proven false as human twilight had existed and continued to exist when pony twilight came. Human Pinkie even asks if she is related to someone who has a dog and looks exactly like her and lives downtown when they first meet.

Oh. Well, I guess I'll have to check out his channel. Thank you

I don't know.... Who is Dr. Wolf?? I'm not the caught up in shows or youtube

but she would come back of Sunset Shimmer left. cause their can't be two Sunset Shimmers. Same with Twilight


what the hay with delious ice cream on top  2 sunstet human  2 pony twi if this does happen im going slap my self 50 times and make a video about it ty


Woooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaah..................... I think your onto something...


i hate the movie Giselle u wanna know why? my name is.. yea .-. sad times


I have to admit that Sunset being an alternate version of the Element of Magic makes sense and may actually could be announced by Hasbro as it being exactly that, but the same person living in the same world would most likely only work if they don't meet. And that's gonna be hard with Twilight if her human counterpart goes to Equestria.


I actually think Sunset Shimmer represents the element of courage because even though the whole school hated her she stayed even when given the chance to start over in Equestria. The reason she wasn't mentioned in the whole Twilight v.s. Nightmare Moon thing is because unlike the other elements, courage is different. You can't just be brave, you need to have someone else bully or put you down to stand up for yourself. She was given the chance in Rainbow Rocks and now courage is an element. Just a theory but I guess we'll find out in the next movie (if there is one)!


i do like the idea of a 7th element myself, since 7 is a pretty common number in mythologica/biblical/whathaveyou business, and two accounts i know of have "7 sisters turned into stars", one thai and one greek. 7 sins/virtues (discord/harmony?), the 7 heavenly bodies before modern astronomy (nothing past saturn was discovered, so sun, moon, mars, mercury, jupiter, venus and saturn were used). 7 isn't as common as dualities and trios but it works here, assuming that the creators wanna play to that theme.


I would agree with this one except that in my newest react, i talked about how sunset was the 7th color in the rainbow. regardless of weather she is the element of forgiveness or friendship, it stands to reason that there will be a major showdown if the third Equestria girls movie ever comes out.


What if Sunset's Element of Harmony is the Element of Acceptance and was hidden in the roots of the Tree of Harmony?
That way Celestia and Luna would not have noticed it and would have left it in the tree, with it's power alone being what allowed the tree to resist the vines that Discord planted.
And I say that Sunset Shimmer is Acceptance because I personally think that accepting the differences between people is what allows us to become friends. Also, in the first movie and, if I remember correctly, in the comics she thought low of others. She didn't accept them and their friendship. But when Twilight was able to bring the Humane 6 back together, Sunset realized that it's possible to be friends with people despite their differences. Also, in the second movie she was the one to tell the girls that they need to forget their arguments and ACCEPT others' opinions and interests.

Wow. That was an unexpected flow of information. And also poor grammar, lol. (Thanks, Russia) I would like to know your opinions on this little theory.


Alternate 6th element, seems legit considering twilights cutie mark actually has a 7th star, which is behind the center star representing herself. The 7th star could represent sunset as an alternate center star, an understudy of the real element of magic. Not to mention how sunsets story arc makes her an exact copy of twilights character in the beginning of the show.


What if it isn't an element at all? Think back to when Sunset was wielding the element of Magic, which apparently holds non-friendship-based power when in another world. Minty green and black magic, right?

Go google an image of it. Invert it. It becomes the oddly specific shade of red that comes from Sunset in RR. (as opposed to a red that suits her hair or cutie mark)

I suspect that she still packs the magic that turned her into a demon before, but is now able to use it for good.


PS: I know it's long but plz try to read it all, it's done argument by argument.
Also, here I defend the fact that Sunset CAN be the 7th element.

I don't believe that Sunset is the replacement of Twilight, coz in any world, Twilight is the leader, no matter what.
Exemple from a random extract: When Sunset start to play guitar, the mane six immediately look at Twilight, as if she was their reference, and since the very beginning Twilight is the mentor of all the group, in every world.

Though, let's remember that both were disciple of Celestia, so both could have been endow of a very powerful power (And from when they were born! Just look at how Twili' became her disciple, she showed her power BEFORE become Celestia's student) both have one link btw their name (idea of sparkling, brightful) and because already traveled between both world (remember that you need a lot of power to go in the other world)
So it won't be that amazing if Sunset was the seventh element of Harmony.

Now let's take a look at 2 things:
-IRL thing: Rainbows have 7 colors, and the Element of Harmony are based on the rainbow, so why is there only 6 Elements active?
-From RR/MLP: There is a really weird thing with Element of Harmony...
In Pony World, Dashie's color is clearly red, and her Element is too, so it'd be normal if she also was the red color on Rainbow Rocks- BUT SHE'S NOT!
Even in the extract you got in the video, you can see the red color comes from Sunset, and absolutely not Rainbow Dash, even during their transformation, when they start to levitate, Sunset is surrounded of Red, Dashie of Blue.

So maybe Dashie doesn't have her right element?
You'd say: "BUT HEY IT'S HER CUTIE MARK!" It does! But remember when the mane six got their Element switched because of Twili', well- Only color changed! And this can happen only in the Pony World, as there is Magic only in the Pony World! (In human world, nobody can switch their Elements, simply because there is no magic)

PLUS!
Each color of the Element fit the skin color! Do you see any red on Dashie? No! And on Sunset? YES! What is the color of Dashie during their transformation? Blue, and Rainbow is blue. In a world where Magic can't swamp Element it does make sense.

So yeah.
I believe that Dashie isn't wearing the color she should own, and the Rainbow isn't complete in the Pony World, but magic get ride of it. Maybe one day they'll make Sunset come back in the Pony World, so the rainbow will have all 7 colors. But I guess only future will tell us!


Though I agree with ome I have to say that, you need to remember when twilight was coming to the human world for the second time, the others asked if they could go as well, and she said it would be confussing and that it would be, if there is a human sunset shimmer I believe prehaps maybe she would go to the pony world if she is to be the 7th element, in regards to the original human twilight, if she were to becomefriends with the human mane 5 and sunset shimmer, even though the same senarios ands trials she did to become princess would change she would still be the element of magic because going back to the first couple episodes of the seris all together it was friendshio that brought out the magic so, I think that human sunset would to to the pony world and her element would be reveiled their if she can get the friendship of the mane 6, it seems unbalanced if there are two in one world and none in another does it not?


I'm not so sure it's the element of friendship as that is what the elements of harmony combine to become. Perhaps the element of bravery/courage? It takes some serious guts to try and make up for past sins and to make new friends, and Sunset had that in spades by the time Rainbow Rocks aired. Therefore I believe that Human Twilight is the 6th element of her world, she just doesn't know about it yet. But I believe that the 7th element becomes a sort of catalyst or booster to the other six as it seems to have come into existence from Sunset herself, what do the rest of you think?


The last bit I would have to disagree with based on the possibility of a paradox being formed. Only reason why that is yet to be an issue is because each has not yet met their duplicate in the human world. Perhaps with the human sunset going to Equestria I can imagine, but two Twilights in one world and two Sunsets in the other would mainly cause just a lot of confusion.


Actually there is a law of universal and inter dimensional balance that being: two entities of the same genetic code cannot coexist. Almost every time/dimension travel story has the rule that if the two people who are counterparts from their own world/time they cannot touch or be within proximity of each other.so having original shimmer coming to Equestria makes more sense. This is also why in back to the future the ending had the inexperienced Marty going to the end of time, but I'll let CRACKED explain that more.


Could patience or diligence become an element of harmony? After all they are virtues and four of the six elements are virtues. In my mind magic and laughter seriously stick out like a sore thumb because they are not virtues while the other four are. But yeah in the show magic makes it all complete.


What if there was another element? It's just somewhere in equestrian where no one can find it. It's possible, even the princesses could be wrong about there only being six? The seven haromony just needs to be reawakened in order for it to be used, or it just needs to finally awake in order for it to be connected with it's bearer.


I think yes. In the Equestrian Girls movie, you notice that every time the mane 6 form, there's this glow around them. In the second movie, Sunset forms with them as well. I would say that possibly, Sunset would have another secret form of her in the human world, like Twilight.... Wait, why am I adding this part in? I dunno... Any ways, I think so because Sunset forms with the mane 6 in the second movie and the mane 6 all have elements.


hey^^ i just discovered your channel today and i have been watching you videos for over 2 hours now and it's awesome but i was wondering if you could maybe make a video about sunset shimmer in the humen world. as we've seen in equestria girl, sunset shimmer was actually a pony that moved to the human world, so i guess there is the "real" human sunset shimmer right? like for twilight, in the first equestria girls, we thought (at least i did...) about how twilight didn't have "a human version" of herself but we (or i) were proved wrong in rainbow rocks, at the end... maybe you already made a video about this? i told you, i just discovered your channel today so sorry if you already talked about this^^'


Although your theory makes sense and is quite intreging, I would personally hate two twighlights, everything would end up wrong. But, if human sunset came to equestria, then both worlds would have a twi and sunset


I personally would like a new element ogf friendship meaning a new character in the mane six or should I say mane seven?<br>I have no problem if Sunset Shimmer is that element...I like her personality as it is...and besides we need a unicorn to fill that space twilight left to become an alicorn.

I personally would like a new element ogf friendship meaning a new character in the mane six or should I say mane seven?
I have no problem if Sunset Shimmer is that element...I like her personality as it is...and besides we need a unicorn to fill that space twilight left to become an alicorn.


Interestingly enough, if there were two Twilights in Equestria, wouldn't it be easy for the human Twilight to accidentally get a bad name for Princess Twilight by mistake?
Just saiyan...
Having Human Sunset in the pony world would work out to have one of each, and the Human Sunset could learn to live as a pony and start bare bones in learning magic as a Unicorn, rather than just Magic as Friendship.
Just saiyan...(again (LOLZ!!))


Really there is a seventh element because the elements of harmony including sunset shimmer  represents the seven heavenly virtues.
Applejack: chastity/wisdom
Fluttershy: temperance/self control
Pinky: charity/love
Rarity: patients
Rainbow: diligent
Twilight:kindness
Sunset shimmer: forgiveness

I did it in order for a reason


Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!<br>Sunset Shimmer is absolute an element of harmony, and i hope we will see her soon!

Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Sunset Shimmer is absolute an element of harmony, and i hope we will see her soon!


suddenly this makes me wonder, could starlight glimmer actually be the actual human twilight? Could she have trapped herself in the pony world by mistake, and sooner or later decided to start a new life there?

Probably not I don't even really agree with this comment lmao


Two Sunset Shimmer accounts right at the top. I'm kind of tempted to make a third. Also, it might actually be a 7th element. Twilight's cutie mark shows a star in the middle (Magic) and five other stars around it (the other 5 elements). But in Magical Mystery Cure, Twi's cutie mark is shows with <i>six</i> stars, implying either a 7th element has been or will be formed, or the animators really screwed up.

Two Sunset Shimmer accounts right at the top. I'm kind of tempted to make a third. Also, it might actually be a 7th element. Twilight's cutie mark shows a star in the middle (Magic) and five other stars around it (the other 5 elements). But in Magical Mystery Cure, Twi's cutie mark is shows with _six_ stars, implying either a 7th element has been or will be formed, or the animators really screwed up.


I don't think Sunset Shimmer can be the 7th element. The maximum that she can be is a "replacement" of the element of magic, because Twilight of the human world not discovered the friendship. In addition, Sunset Shimmer also represents one element of disharmony - disloyalty.


Maybe Sunset's element would be confidence since that's been an issue for her. At first she was over confident and power-hungry, that's what got her banished and what we saw in the beginning of the first movie. Then in the second movie she was embarrassed for what she did and lacked confidence when everyone was hating on her or when she was being left out by her friends.


I think Sunset Shimmer is the Element of Magic in the Human world, even though she comes from Equestria. Twilight's role is mainly in Equestria, so Sunset Shimmer is a subsitute for whenever she isn't in the human world.<br>Like the idea?

I think Sunset Shimmer is the Element of Magic in the Human world, even though she comes from Equestria. Twilight's role is mainly in Equestria, so Sunset Shimmer is a subsitute for whenever she isn't in the human world.
Like the idea?


ive watched this video a bunch of times and everytime it gives me chills. idk why


Well some people have theorized that there is no Human Sunset Shimmer or that she died early on. There's never been any mention OR hints about her.

HOWEVER we HAVE had a hint about Human World Twilight when Pinkie says something along the lines of "Have we met before" or "Haven't I seen you somewhere before".

Though I DO like your analysis a lot.


Hm.. This is quite interesting. Mind if I add a theory?
You see, if you notice the pony/girls colours are different colours of the rainbow. Example, Applejack is Orange, Fluttershy is Yellow, but shockingly it doesn't have a green so we could use a replacement colour. But for now, move on with the colours. Blue is Rainbow Dash, Purple is twilight. We do not have indigo, nor green. Pinkie Pie and Rarity have colours NOT in the rainbow, so they can fill in the colours. Still, we have one colour left, which is Red that starts the rainbow off. So Sunset Shimmer may have a element of harmony, but for now she is important to the group because she starts off the rainbow. Though necessarily, she wouldn't really have a element. Lauren tended to have 6 elements of harmony. There might be a easter egg that she DOES have a element of harmony, and I would think its Trust because in Rainbow Rocks, a lot of people wouldn't believe that she is nice after the Fall Formal, when she turned into a raging she-demon.
Get what I mean?

*Hm.. This is quite interesting. Mind if I add a theory?*
You see, if you notice the pony/girls colours are different colours of the rainbow. Example, Applejack is Orange, Fluttershy is Yellow, but shockingly it doesn't have a green so we could use a replacement colour. But for now, move on with the colours. Blue is Rainbow Dash, Purple is twilight. We do not have indigo, nor green. Pinkie Pie and Rarity have colours NOT in the rainbow, so they can fill in the colours. Still, we have one colour left, which is Red that starts the rainbow off. So Sunset Shimmer may have a element of harmony, but for now she is important to the group because she starts off the rainbow. Though necessarily, she wouldn't really have a element. Lauren tended to have 6 elements of harmony. There might be a easter egg that she DOES have a element of harmony, and I would think its Trust because in Rainbow Rocks, a lot of people wouldn't believe that she is nice after the Fall Formal, when she turned into a raging she-demon.
*Get what I mean?*


Wouldn't it make more sense if it was Sunset's human counterpart who goes to Equestria instead? That way we have pony Sunset in the human world, to teach human Twlight, and the human Sunset in Equestria, to be taught by Princess Twilight. That's another way to even out the balance, especially since that way there won't be two Sunsets in the human world and two Twilights in Equestria.


Let me stop you there. Human Twilight going to the pony world would not balance things out. You can't have two of the same people from different worlds staying in the same world. So if anything, it would be human Sunset who would go to the pony world to live. That way, things are balanced, and we don't have doubles running around.


I've always wondered where pony sunset lives in the Equestria girls world, and if her original family ever wondered where she went.


I believe she is! She had her transformation so I believe she does....

I'm too lazy to explain further :P

I believe she is! She had her transformation so I believe she does....

-I'm too lazy to explain further :P-


I think (Pony) Sunset Shimmer would come back to Equestria and the two (human) Sunset Shimmer and Twilights will stay in the human world. I don't think it will make much since having two Twilights in Ponyville and two Sunsets in the human world.<br>And I think Princess Celestia will or haves forgiving her for going rogue cause when Twilight came back from the human world the first time (first movie), Princess Celestia wanted to know if Sunset was alright. She still cares about her.  =D

I think (Pony) Sunset Shimmer would come back to Equestria and the two (human) Sunset Shimmer and Twilights will stay in the human world. I don't think it will make much since having two Twilights in Ponyville and two Sunsets in the human world.
And I think Princess Celestia will or haves forgiving her for going rogue cause when Twilight came back from the human world the first time (first movie), Princess Celestia wanted to know if Sunset was alright. She still cares about her.  =D


I feel like since she was like the voice of reason maybe she could be the element of Reasoning


Hello The Brony Notion!<br>   I have to disagree with your idea though it does make sense, I believe that the human Sunset Shimmer should go to the pony world as the human Twilight should go to the high school with the pony Sunset Shimmer! This makes more sense because then each world/universe will have A Twilight and A Sunset Shimmer. Referring to have only one of each pony/human. I hope that this can help you in any way but thanks for the information about this topic!

Hello The Brony Notion!
   I have to disagree with your idea though it does make sense, I believe that the human Sunset Shimmer should go to the pony world as the human Twilight should go to the high school with the pony Sunset Shimmer! This makes more sense because then each world/universe will have A Twilight and A Sunset Shimmer. Referring to have only one of each pony/human. I hope that this can help you in any way but thanks for the information about this topic!


I'm more confused about the passage of time between Sunset's banishment and Equestria Girls. We know she was Celestia's student before Twilight and that she was sent to the human world by Celestia through the portal in the Crystal Empire. But we <b>also</b> know that the Crystal Empire was lost for a thousand years. Does this mean that time passes differently in the human world than in Equestria? We know Sunset's been in the human world for at least 4 years, according to the pictures of the Fall Formals where she was chosen as prom queen. That would mean that one year in the human world equals 250 years in Equestria. But that raises another question. How did Sunset know about the Elements of Harmony? And how did she know Twilight was the bearer of the element of magic if they've never met before?

I'm more confused about the passage of time between Sunset's banishment and Equestria Girls. We know she was Celestia's student before Twilight and that she was sent to the human world by Celestia through the portal in the Crystal Empire. But we *also* know that the Crystal Empire was lost for a thousand years. Does this mean that time passes differently in the human world than in Equestria? We know Sunset's been in the human world for at least 4 years, according to the pictures of the Fall Formals where she was chosen as prom queen. That would mean that one year in the human world equals 250 years in Equestria. But that raises another question. How did Sunset know about the Elements of Harmony? And how did she know Twilight was the bearer of the element of magic if they've never met before?


I believe Sunset Shimmer is the Element of Reason or Element of Self-Confidence. Why? Well, in Rainbow Rocks, the Mane 6 kept mentioning Sunset's evil past. She stayed confident in herself and eventually became a human pony, thing... If Sunset returned to Equestria, Celestia, Luna, and the other Mane 5 would be suspicious of Sunset.


I'm so happy that you made a video of sunset shimmer because I wanted to know if it was 7th element of harmony Thanks!


To me, what makes sense is if original human SS went to Equestria. But I just happened to realize something; Would that SS become Celestia's new student? Or even Twilight's?


Good theory, but I have one too. Just bear with me. What if DERPY became the 7th element? She would be PERFECT for the element of ACCEPTANCE!!! Think about it....


I think sunset IS a Equestria Element Of Harmony because another theorizer(don't know his name, sorry) said that in the first episode of mlpfim there was a sixth element orb and in that episode where spike went all greedy and grew enormous there was the 7th element orb in his pile of treasure. So the elements could work with 6 OR 7 elements of harmony so sunset shimmer could be the element of forgiveness or friendship in Equestria. My theory is that the elements contain Loyalty, Laughter, Generosity, Honesty, Kindness, ? And Magic. This theory is kind of supported by the opening theme song. There are 7 lines, not 6:

Big adventures.                              Loyalty Rainbowdash
Tons of fun                                     Laughter Pinkie Pie
A beautiful heart                            Generosity Rarity
Faithful and strong                         Honesty Appeljack
Sharing kindness.                         Kindness Fluthershy
ITS AN EASY FEE.                         ? Sunset shimmer
And magic makes it all complete  Magic Twilight Sparkle

I don't know what ? stands for but Sunset Shimmer is representing the element of ?. What that also means is that earth Sunset and Twilight are also representing an element. Twilight representing the element of science(because in our world Magic=Science) and Sunset representing a different form of ?. What I also think is that every time the elements are used they can be swapped out individually like Magic can replace Sience and ? Can be swapped out for the other ?. That's why human twilight isn't needed at Canterlot high. I also think that every time the elements are used in Equestria that beam from twilight that goes up into the air travels through the sky, through space and through different dimensions to reach Equestria Sunset Shimmer so the elements can work and something Happens to Sunset Shimmer so the elements can work like maybe she turns into a pony for a moment or something els but she choses to ignore it or sees it as a returning dream which explains why the humain 5 don't know about this. And one more thing. WOUW, I SHOULD MAKE A THEORY VIDEO ABOUT THIS.


I think the 7th element is or should be the crystal heart because as the same as the elements that are an object that has magic and keeps balnce in the equestraia ( and the human world as we saw ) so i think if you took it into the world the same thing would happen


Something I've been wondering for a while is that if sunset shimmer was originally from equestria and she went to the human world then what happened to the sunset shimmer that was originally from the human world?


What if human twilight was meant to stay in human world.

And pony shimmer was sort of banished there I don't know if her new way of living and thinking affects that.  Again I don't know.

Also the real human shimmer as you said has yet to be seen.

Maybe  the human shimmer is the one to go to the pony world since the real pony shimmer seems content with staying in the human world


My theory is that Sunset is the gardian that protects and unites the Elements. I don't think she is an Element. Like in Rainbow Rocks, she protects the group from the Dazzlings so they wouldn't be defeated. Other evidence of this is that she tells the Mane 6 about the Dazzlings being strange. She was telling them that they should be ready for anything. Hence the protecting the Elements theory. So what do you think?


If you infer back into the first movie Pinkie asked if Twilight had a twin and again if you infer she said that it was just a hunch in Pony Ville, Pinkie has her Pinkie Sence and in the Human World she must be psychic. All the other times she said just a hunch the hunch was right so Twilight might have a twin and so might Sunset Shimmer. Which proves your statement wrong. That's my hunch.😉


How about Element of Wisdom? Sunset Shimmer was the one who knew that the Rainbooms were falling to the Sirens spell. Twilight didn't see that and she's the one who's the element of magic plus the leader of the pony 6.


wow he is intelligent!! and great too!! i am impressed! and i am happy there is a video of sunset shimmer


Well if you do it that way, then there would be doubles in both universes.. That will get messy.. O~o Instead, have human sunset go to Equestria and human twilight stay in the human world. That way, there is one of each and there will <b>still</b> be someone who needs to learn the magic of friendship.

Well if you do it that way, then there would be doubles in both universes.. That will get messy.. O~o Instead, have human sunset go to Equestria and human twilight stay in the human world. That way, there is one of each and there will *still* be someone who needs to learn the magic of friendship.


I have come to believe that spike stole the 7th element there is evidence that there is a 7th element. I think sunset does represent an element but spike stole it from her. rember in EQ when sunset stole spike. It is possible that she did not just steal him for the crown. What do you guys think?


I agree all the way, Now, how could sunset shimmer(human) be twighlight?


That might be possible theoretically, but what happens if the twilights meet each other? I'm sorry but that doesn't seem possible to me. I've been reading the 13th reality books. If you like this theory then don't read them.


I think she could be the element of unity. Think about, my little ponies. In the first Equestria Girls, although Sunset Shimmer was 'evil', she brought the girls together. AND, maybe she wasn't 'evil' but corrupted! Like Luna was! After the transformation of human Twilight and the human versions of her friends, you could almost see something had changed in Sunset-anypony notice how she seemed to cower away from the girls like Princess Luna cowered away from Princess Celestia after the Mane 6 defeated Nightmare Moon? Then, in the second Equestria Girls, we get to see Sunset Shimmer again, this time, in the girls group. She's seem to want to be good now and is no longer corrupted by power. Then, the Dazzlings give us a little scare in the lunch room when we see Sunset Shimmer thinking about something. Could she have considered joined the Dazzlings? Nevermind that, my little ponies, because she stuck with her friends and in the end, helped them defeat the Dazzlings. Now, about the red beam of light; that could be a sign that a new element has been uncovered. I imagine her element necklace would be a sun, like her cutie mark, considering the Mane 6's necklace's/big crown thing were shaped like their cutie marks as well. Maybe it could be like W.I.T.C.H., where she protects and unites the elements. After all, though out the second Equestria Girls, Sunset Shimmer was always trying to keep their wings, ears, and tails transformation a secret and always tried her best to keep the girls together, even when Princess Twilight couldn't. So, keep that mind, my little ponies. Perhaps, there is a seventh element.

I totally agree with you but one thing. Like you said she would protect and unite the elements and be an element but I think she wouldn't be an element. At the end of rainbow rocks, she's in the center, but she isn't the element of magic so why was she in the middle. I think she was in the middle of the group because she wasn't becoming a 7th element, she was potrayed as the gardian of the elements like you said. Otherwise your theory is amazing


I think sunset shimmer will go to aquestria and become twilight student after all twilight has been in the both places so she can reach her about equestria just like celectia to twilight 😊 and earth twilight will stay but be a character that is very questionative and finds her way into a main character of maybe eg 3\4 not saying there will be a 3 or  4 just saying

And what about both flash sentry eq love cantalot high twi  and cantalot love eq?! (So they might swap wourlds)


I think it would be cool if sunset shimmer were the 7th element of harmony, but it does not make sense because sunset shimmer seems like a movie character.


The Brony Notion:
Look at Twilights cutie mark 6 sides right? Maybe sunset shimmer could be the last side of twilights cutie mark? I mean your right with equestria girls with the red in the middle of the rainbow. And before I saw equestria girls and after I saw Magic Mystery Cure or whatever it's called, I noticed before there was 2 of each race of pony. Earth Pony, Unicorn, and Pegasi. After Twilight became an alicorn she was a unicorn. So I wonder if Sunset Shimmer could replace Twilight as a unicorn like she did for the Rainbooms. I guess it would make sense. "Just a hunch" - Pinkie Pie   Thanks for taking time to read this IF you read it.
                   -EpiclyEpicTaco


twigh's e lemnt has six outer things, since the other elements are only five, that must mean that Sunset Shimmer is the sith friend, or point in Twight's elemen. lso, I wan o say, tha maybe Hasbro had pland this stuff alalon.


I think there are various elements of harmony with no wielder

Forgiveness
Trust
Truth

I think Sunset wields the element of Trust, cuz Truth is too close to Honesty, and I don't know about Forgiveness yet


What if it was the human sunset shimmer to end up living in equestria instead?


She need to be a part of the mane six and that will make it the mane seven =D <br>and she need to be on the show

She need to be a part of the mane six and that will make it the mane seven =D
and she need to be on the show


I think this is a solid theory, except for the fact that both versions of Twilight and Sunset Shimmer go to IHOP and order pancakes.


I agree because wont it make sence that sunset shimmer may be the 7th element of harmony.While twilight lives in ecuestia and speads friendship around.Sunset shimmer can be the only one with the power of the 7th element


It makes sense now and a BIG hint in rainbow rocks after the dazzlings sing they went to the principals class room  principal celestia said: sunset shimmer is trying to make someone else out there a bad element so does that mean that sunset has a elemant. Maybe in the final episode Twilight writes in that book thing and writes:  sunset shimmer please come to the portal and go through it we need your help so sunset shimmer goes to the portel to go save equstria and thats how she got her element


You come up with AMAZING things for this stuff i also LOVE knowing that a boy waches mlp ;D


Maybe the human sunset shimmer is in Equestria somewhere? Somehow. I don't exactly have a theory for this but just an idea to grow.


I felt like Sunset's element was Justice... but I could be wrong lmao


It would be human Sunset in ponyville and Twilight in our world becuase having two of the same pony/person will be odd.


But maybe he is right about the whole replacing thing like twilight and sunset have the same voice person whatever u call it


Good theory but I think her element would be the element of trust, because at end of the first equestria girls movie th girls didnt trust sunset, but in rainbow rocks Sunset had to show the girls they could trust her,

  and you gotta trust your friends
                         to all my bronies and pegasisters TG33


Ok,so sunset shimmer was reformed and all but for some reason I absolutely hate sunset shimmer.she tried to enslave some race of technicolor weak human things.the ponies of equestrea have magic,and common sense.I defiantly agree with the points made in this video


When i clicked on this video, i imagined sunset shimmer being the element of forgivness.  I AM PHYCIC!!!


What if the points on the star on her cutie mark not represented the mane 6, rather the rest of the mane 6+Sunset Shimmer, and Twilight is the center? If this is the case, her cutie mark should have have a star in the big purple star. Then, Sunset can be the Element of Forgiveness. As for the Tree of Harmony, Sunset's element can be contained in the Element of Magic. When Nightmare Moon smashed the elements, that might have been the cause for Sunset to go haywire. Her element was never made into a necklace, unlike the other mane 6, so she turned evil, and she wanted the crown so she could revive her element?  If you could do another video on my theory, it would be cool to see this from your perspective. @The Brony Notion


EXACTLY THE ELEMENT OF FORGIVENESS BECAUSE OF THE WHOLE PONYING UP THING IN RAINBOW ROCKS!!!!<br>(Please excuse my enthusiasm)

EXACTLY THE ELEMENT OF FORGIVENESS BECAUSE OF THE WHOLE PONYING UP THING IN RAINBOW ROCKS!!!!
(Please excuse my enthusiasm)


I think your right ; Sunset Shimmer can be the element of magic. But i disagree with your theaory about the human Twilight and the human Sunset Shimmer.<br>I think they didn't exist at all. Twilight and Sunset represent the element of magic but in the human world, magic doesn't exist. This two only are not in this world ; Maybe because they represent the element of magic and magic doesn't exist here ? But magic of frendship exist. Maybe it's why this mirror is here too; Sunset Shimmer and Twilight can be the element of Magic in the human world because they are coming from Equestria. (After all, if human can represent the element of magic, why an human twilight dosn't represent it, it doesn't make sense) I don't really know, it's juste an idea.

I think your right ; Sunset Shimmer can be the element of magic. But i disagree with your theaory about the human Twilight and the human Sunset Shimmer.
I think they didn't exist at all. Twilight and Sunset represent the element of magic but in the human world, magic doesn't exist. This two only are not in this world ; Maybe because they represent the element of magic and magic doesn't exist here ? But magic of frendship exist. Maybe it's why this mirror is here too; Sunset Shimmer and Twilight can be the element of Magic in the human world because they are coming from Equestria. (After all, if human can represent the element of magic, why an human twilight dosn't represent it, it doesn't make sense) I don't really know, it's juste an idea.


Umm I think human world would go to equestria its more balanced. If both twilight saga were in equestria it would be odd. Not to mention if human sunset went but not human twilight we would still have one person who believes in friendship and one that doesn't in each world.


I'm not gonna lie. This theory has a lead... buttaaa... as soon as you started mentioning the original human twilight, my mind got fazzled XDD; I have no idear where they're going with this... maybe a canon episode in this season? I feel like they need to explain it subtly...


I think your theory is correct except,  I think the human Twilight will stay In the human world. And the human Sunset Shimmer will go to the equestria world.


She is the seventh element! YES I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THIS!


but the 2nd episode in the 2nd season discord stole twilight's horn if she is the element of magic she should change gray but when she loses her "Friends" she turned gray so twilight is the element of friendship and sunset is the ether universe thiny.


IT ANNOYS ME!

Everyone is saying sunset shimmer should be the element of forgiveness! (Well most)

But it's not her that forgave. it's the students at canterlot high! They forgave her for turning into that power crazed lunatic! And trying to enslave everyone. She doesn't represent the element of forgiveness because she really never forgave anyone?

Am I missing something?!? Help!


I think sunset shimmer having twilights element of harmony but in red we can still see that sunset shimmer is taking over twilight in the human world when twilight is in ponyville


There's a Mlp play set, the carriage or whatever it's called... Sunset Shimmers element can be placed on the carriage. So yes, she is the 7th element of harmony.


thats what i thought! i said that she would be the element of Forgiveness


Dont You Think that Sunset Shimmers Element is Bravery?


Well... my theory is that human sunset should go to the pony world it makes more sense that way


I think sunset shimmer will be confidences and discord to be the element of kaos, what are your thoughts.


Twilight and sunset shimmer are friends, so I guess she could be element of friendship, in the human world


I kindly disagree , my theory is that human twilight is going to stay in canterlot high because that's where she is originally from also I also think she would be the new leader of the rainbooms. So in conclusion human twilight will end up going to canterlot high , we yet dont know if human twilight would be evil or good. They might include human world sunset shimmer but I highly doubt that


Anyone noticed how if there is a human AND Pony version of everyone,EVEN Twi and Spike as revealed in Rainbow Rocks,there must be another Nightmare Moon and Tirek and etc. in the human world?!?!?!

Also, Where is the human version of Sunset hiding all this time??? this must mean that for YEARS There have been TWO Human Sunset Shimmers!!

well,y'know,or the pony one never left and the human one is just and evil version who came to Equestria to take Twilight's crown and leave back to the human world and the pony version is still nice and hoping to study with Celestia even though Tia believes she is actually evil because of her crazy human self who wants to be like the Dazzlings and take over the world so they will all adore her and not the precious princess/principals.

:)

Anyone noticed how if there is a human *AND* Pony version of everyone,EVEN Twi and Spike as revealed in Rainbow Rocks,there must be another Nightmare Moon and Tirek and etc. in the human world?!?!?!

Also, Where is the human version of Sunset hiding all this time??? this must mean that for *YEARS* There have been *TWO* Human Sunset Shimmers!!

*well,y'know,or the pony one never left and the human one is just and evil version who came to Equestria to take Twilight's crown and leave back to the human world and the pony version is still nice and hoping to study with Celestia even though Tia believes she is actually evil because of her crazy human self who wants to be like the Dazzlings and take over the world so they will all adore her and not the precious princess/principals.*

*:)*


No. The human sunset would go because of well… u can't have two of the same person meeting in the same world or they will both lolly die…


I think she will have the element of friendship or forgiveness..?<br>Just mine theroy :3

I think she will have the element of friendship or forgiveness..?
Just mine theroy :3


i think her element should be the element of courage seeing she faced her fear of singing in front of other people who hate her (atleast i think thats her fear) not to mention she transformed after that


If you actually past eveything and continue watching the equestia Twilight appears so she will join the mane 6


Twilight should have made a clone in the mirror pool and sent the clone to the human world balance is what I call this


What about the human SS go to the pony world and human TS stay because if two of the person or pony stay in one world, than it gets confusing and unbalance too.


To be honest i think i there would to be a 7th element then i think it would be love now since i have a big imagination i aculiey created a pony for this well she's not tecnicley a pony but she becomes one anyway the way it happened is that my character Sara gets zapped to the mlp world she was origanily from the sonic x human world then went back with sonic... sh gets zapped by doctor eggman and teleports to the mlp world now for the powers she had she comes in a alicorn and she has an amulet with a heart on it when she comes theres a big explosion and the princesses know what it is so sara gets attacked by the wolf things (forgot the name) and applejack comes to save her now sara is wearing a cloak and in a tree aj throws her down and sees shes a unicorn and has a amulet now from were she comes from she knows all about mlp so aj takes her the the other 5

If i keep going its going to be to long
Ps. Sry for the spelling ;3


its like Arial and Vanessa one good but she lost her singing voice and one Evil steal the good one voice and use it to control Eric but she doesn't have good she only have meany and Cruel and one have kind and beauty

whats the diffreant about them? one thing its the singing voice that Vanessa steal it from Arial so she can take Eric and rule the sea


I AGREE SUNSET IS THE 7TH ELEMENT (In Rainbow Rocks) But In the pony world its the mane 6


ersonally i think she should, so twilight stands in the middle


Oh wait no so at the end i think the pony sunset is gonna go back in the pony world and human twilight is gonna stay there and human sunset is gonna stay too or maybe there might be some kind of chaos going on again with human sunset and human twilight cant figure out how to stop it and ya know stuff like that happens idk


These must be correct
Cause friendship is totally sunset shimmers element shape as sun or fire or something

Twilight Sparkle:magic
Sunset shimmer:friendship
Rainbowdash:loyalty
Rarity:generosity
Pinkiepie:laughter
Fluttershy:kindness
Applejack:honesty


can you imagine all the fanfictions people will be writing about


What if in rainbow rocks sunset shimmer held hands with the main six and it did the whole rainbow and Lazer thing like rainbow dash said and it only worked when sunset shimmer was there at the end and when twily went back to equestria there needed to be a sunset shimmer to balance things out yada yada yada then there would need to be a replacement like you said but instead of another sunset shimmer It would be one of the less known ponys like derpy and can replace the element of firgiveness (spelling I know) with the element of unique as derpy has something no pony else has. WALL EYES. It would also give the background ponys (lyra bonbon etc.) A chance in the show. Some pony please tell me what you think


You know why sunset shimmer is the 7th element of harmony because sunset shimmer learn about friend ship :3.


I have a theory: Everyone knows you need six colors to make a rainbow red,orange,yellow,green,blue,and purple. Twilight is purple Rainbow Dash is blue Rarity is white Applejack is orange Fluttershy is yellow and Pinkie pie is pink. The problem is that we are missing two colors green and red. Without these colors you do not have a full rainbow. So the mane six has power but not the FULL power. These bad ponies in the human world were able to take the power and use it at its fullest b/c they only used one color red. So without Sunset Shimmer who was the red they were not able to destroy them. But WITH the color red they had a fuller rainbow. Now I don't know who is the green. But I have a felling this theory has something to do with this.


i personally do not agree, but i do think there is a human sunset shimmer


I want Sunset shimmer to be  the seventh Elamet


I'm pretty sure Sunset Shimmer killed her real world counterpart.


No, she's not an element of harmony, a princess, she's not even anyone's pupil anymore. She's just a girl, living in the alternate universe with her friends and that's just fine. Twilight can be a princess and Celestia can give rise to celestial objects, but she, Sunset Shimmer can be herself. She's not fit to be an element of harmony, but the product of said element, and that's just fine.


Ok.  will you please do an episode that questions whether or not Pinkie Pie's ADHD? I mean if you think about it it is really logical. actually she might have other disorders like Aspergers! I mean it wasn't she technically talking to inanimate objects in one of the episodes like episodes when a friend gave her a party! I mean she was pretty distraught but that's a lot like me honestly because I have ADHD and Aspergers and just comparing her to myself makes me think that she has both of those. please please please please please please please please please please please please please please do a video on that!!!!!!! :)


hey i think the human twilight will stay in the human world to me if there is another sunset shimmer


Here's another curve ball. BN has offered up the notion that Twilight Sparkle is Clover the Clever. Which Twilight are we talking about though? There are two of them.


or maybe human sunset goes to the pony world?


I thought of forgiviness for sunset shimmer in the shower. BROHOOF!<br>


I don't know how twilight and sunset shimer have <br>the same elements

I don't know how twilight and sunset shimer have
the same elements


I think you should  put as sun set shimmers element should  be a  olvel


I think Sunset Shimmer is better a leader then twilight because she's characteristicness is more leadership then her evilness!


It's a little out there but it could be possible.


have u ever played animal jam u should try it its SOOOOOOOOO good!


YES SHE WILL BE AND IT WILL BR THE ELAMENT OF TRUST LOL SO IRONIC :)


Ummm..Dude, ya lost me at half way through...😂


Wait... Since sunset shimmer is from equestria wouldn't there be another human sunset shimmer


But in the first movie twilight sparkle said it would be bad and could make Habic to the people


Glad I'm not the only one who thought this!


Yay omg that would be awsome keep on going


YWait.. Laugh out loud but... Two sunset's and twilights.. Wow


This is such a great theory maybe in Equestria Girls the new one will have the human Twilight Sparkles and human Sunsethimmer


How could there be 2human sunset shimmers and do you know anything about season 5<br>


After seeing rabiow rock i thught that sunset shimer is the elament of fredship


I think it will be to complicated besides I dont want a human in the pony world to weird


And a new series arrives my little pony equesria high while hasbro works on season 4


Am I the only person who thinks that when Sunset Shimmer was still evil she killed her other self?


Sunset can't be a element of harmony cause she only appeared in the 1&2 movie not the series so she would only be a replacement for twilight when she's in the pony world....I rest my case....and EVIL SUNSET RULES!!!


I thought you would be the seventh to like the element of trust worthiness


Ummm, Sunset Shimer started in Eqestria, or whatever. ~don't know how to spell, AGHHH~
            On the end of Rainbow Rocks we see Twilight Sparkle think of Canterlot High same as Twilight Sparkle ~pony~
            Thinking of Ponyville. That is her Counter Part ~again no spell...~ Also Sunset has Counter part on Human side so               there is 2 Sunset shimer in Human world. Sunset needs to be in Pony world. Where she was, Where she started.


But also the other twilight human??? And Sunset Shimmer is the 7th element is pony yet...


really deep never thought of it im subscribin


Why doesn't Sunset Shimmer have a double?


At school we have a thing where people are those pony\people so if I said my best friend is twilight and I'm sunset shimmer it would be like that and everyone would have a place get it???? Anyway I do and don't agree


i think she will, because in the mlp eg movie rainbow rocks  at the end she helps the mane six


I did it order because Aj has wisdom F.S(Fluttershy) has self control pinky is friends with everyone rarity is patient with designing her clothes rainbow never gives up on people twilight is kind and that is how she got too be a princess and sunset shimmer was evil but now she wants forgiveness and helps other people. I'm just like sunset shimmer mean but now wants forgiveness


Hmm.... Maybe? I actually don't know! :0<br>


She only gose into that pony singing thing when she sings AND because sunset shimmer from equestrian and she's a unicorn


Not to be rude and all but, I didn't understand your theory much... Probably cause I'm a kid at heart.


Sunset shimmer from the human world is sunset shimmer from the pony world. There was a sunset shimmer in the human world before pony sunset shimmer came there. In mlp rainbow rocks at the end of the movie they show what the real twilight sparkle in the human world looks like.  I have one question those if they showed what the real twilight sparkle looked like then why can't they show what the real sunset shimmer looks like in the human world.


uuummmm, difficult, becouse the movies are not cannon in the series so if humsn twilight goes to equiestria she should apear at least in the background


I didn't understand a bit of that someone please put it in English


the rael twilight should go back to the human world cast a spell to make human twilight know her friends and be a alicorn so she can in the human world and do the same thing to sunset be tell human and pony friends all about it ps I'm a litte kid


How come they haven't showed Sunset Shimmer in friendship is magic yet?

I know...kinda sucks. Maybe she'll being a season 5 episode. Something to consider, hasbro ;)

@Derpy Hooves No problem but i kinda hate that i'll never see Sunset in the actual show...

Omg thank you! My friend said there was sightings of Sunset Shimmer in Equestria. But idk

It's stated that EG isn't canon so yea she pretty much doesn't exist.

@Derpy Hooves for the most part the writer's have been very faithful on their word that Sunset is only for the EG series... though they also said that Flash sentry was only for the movies, but hey could have been throwing a curve ball and meant Human sentry,and not pony sentry.


no affense but thanks alot for the spoiler in enchanted


SAMMM SAM SAMANTHA I KNEW IT , I KNEW IT ALL ALONG @Saber Sam @Saber Sam  SAMMMM

I did. Thats basically just a more complex way of saying what I told you when you asked me.


But the end of the rainbow rocks... states that twilight sparkle of the human world exists .... the theory s weird because based on the cliffhanger the this movie Is coming and the theory of twilight's replacement kinda would make he reintroduction of human twi... very weird

Or could that episode with the strange bad scientist twilight play a role I'm your theory


ok   is   what   your       trying   to    say           is  that    sunsetshimmer  is   the    7 th   elemet     of    homney


sunset shimmer there is a music video about singing a song it,s not a villine song like " under our spell" by the dazeling but is about you saying or singing how you changed your way,s from bad to good ad you my favoirit equestria girl even thoue i,m a pony in equstria but you know how youtube is


you just stumbled apond gold @The Brony Notion


I need to stop watching your videos. You give me way too many fanfic ideas


You see, this is actually the most logical theory. Due to twilight having to leave sunset will probably take over, because of the whole six elements necessary. Because it also takes into account the truth that a seventh element isn't needed. Whenever the elements were seen, it was always six. If a seventh WAS needed, then the friendship blast wouldn't work. But, I wouldn't agree that she is the seventh element. Because by this theory, she would become the sixth and final element of the equestria girls realm, rather than the seventh in a place she doesn't even reside in.


This makes sense, in a way. Something I've been contemplating about the Human Twilight, is she would somehow find the portal and then investigate the alternate world. The serious question is... Where is the Sunset Shimmer from the human world? On top of that, how would the two Twilights react to seeing each other knowing they're both from an alternate dimension? Try not to over think this theory... Also, what would end up happening if Queen Chrysalis somehow ended up in the human world? Hope that doesn't give anyone a migraine....

Another thing... >_< If you had two of the same pony/person in either dimension, then wouldn't that be a blunt example if the two Pinky's met? O_O The world's would end!! Having to Pinky Pie's in either world would just spell disaster for everyone/everypony!!!
O_O WE'RE DOOMED!!!
@_*


There's no doubting that one of the human "spares" moving to equestrian makes sense narratively and symbolically. However, two Twilights and two Sunsets would be a little confusing. Instead it would make more sense for Human!Sunset to move to Equestria, just like her pony counterpart for the human world. However, this would require more setup than what we have.

At the moment, then, it would be more plausible that Human!Sunset will remain a riddle for the ages as to her whereabouts. As for Human!Twilight, it's to early to speculate until we know more about the plot of EG3 coming later this year.

Though personally? I like the idea she becomes a running gag character who obsesses over the strange happenings at CHS, but never finds anything concrete.


My personal theory is that Sunset shimmer actually represents confidence.
Something shown throughout the movies.
Swinging from Narcissism in the first movie to self-loathing in the second movie and ending in balance between the two in the finale.
An action that actually unlocks her magic and making her part of the group.

This could allude to that the elements of harmony may either
- Consist of different elements in different dimensions. (Something explored in the comic)
- Not be the complete collection, with more elements out there and each added element simply increasing the power of the set. (also fits with the theory of elements of disharmony)


Recently, I have come to believe that there is an Element of Harmony missing in the series out of the writers forgetting something crucial in harmony and in friendships. There are 6 Elements of Harmony (7 if you count Sunset Shimmer's of Friendship): Magic, Kindness, Laughter, Generosity, Loyalty and Honesty. These are all very good but isn't Trust just as important? I think the concept of 'Harmony' is missing a key element (no pun intended).

Maybe that is what spike sunset and stigian represent


The part about Sunset replacing Twilight in as the leader of the mane 6 in the human world is brilliant. However I don't think human Twilight will end up in Ponyville, could be pretty confusing with two Twilights hanging around in the episodes.


So I am just going to throw this out there that might be a slight loop hole in your plan: what if there is no alternate sunset shimmer cause her duplicate tragically passed before she came. Then you could go with that with sun set shimmer from equestrian has been there so long that the world took balancing itself out into its own hands and tragically passed one.<br>Plus, they also could go a different way where they have to bring sun set shimmer back to equestrian to balance the world. This could bring discord into affect, as he is a semi-main character in MLP. Just food for thought, not saying they will.

So I am just going to throw this out there that might be a slight loop hole in your plan: what if there is no alternate sunset shimmer cause her duplicate tragically passed before she came. Then you could go with that with sun set shimmer from equestrian has been there so long that the world took balancing itself out into its own hands and tragically passed one.
Plus, they also could go a different way where they have to bring sun set shimmer back to equestrian to balance the world. This could bring discord into affect, as he is a semi-main character in MLP. Just food for thought, not saying they will.


In all honesty this is my theory on that ending part. (I got kind of confused xDD)
But as I saw it, everyone knows the S1 of MLP how Twilight (Horse) did not have any friends. While at the end of Rainbow Rocks it shows Twilight (Human) being alone with her dog talking to it. What I think may happen is that pony Twilight will return back into the human world BUT shall teach the human Twilight how amazing friendship could be. Yea there would be mix ups on which is the real Twilight BUT if you take a look at the first movie you notice that there are 2 of everypony. Twilight didn't belong in the human world and kept on acting as much as she could as a human but her pony side kept getting out. What I think is that Since there is both a pony and human of Flash is that human Twilight will stay in the human world, while pony Twilight will stay in Equestria.
(NO I AM NOT POINTING OUT A SHIPING :l I am just stating that since 2 of everypony is there it would be more common for pony Twilight to go back to Equestria than to stay in Canterlot High and act like something she isn't for a long time while the other Twilight just doesn't understand her part.

As for Sunset Shimmer's element I honestly think that it is Forgiveness because it took her enough courage to finally forgive herself to help her friends. In the lyrics "Your never gonna bring me down! Your never gonna break this pare of me! My friends are here to bring me round. Not singing just for popularity!" you can clearly see that she is still haunted about her past but she has proven to everyone that she changed. She helped out the ones that helped her out first and as in the credits everyone in the high school starts to act like her friend now.

Those are just my thoughts though :3


Still pretty intensely sure that Sunset Shimmer is the element of Faith. She's kind of Twilight's equal but in some ways her opposite, gains strength from believing in herself and others, and her power really only came to fruition in the human world.

Plus, you know, the whole summoning a giant pony goddess avatar thing.


Honestly, I think we need to take the whole thing one step even further.

Sunset Shimmer's name is extremely similar to Twilight's, just at a different 'time of day' (twilight is closer to night, sunset is closer to day.) It matches in with the Luna/Moon, Celestia/Sun bit, anyway.  Sunset Shimmer also used to be a powerful apprentice of Celestia's before Twilight got there.  The way she's changed over the movies, and how she got to be part of the human world's Elements of Harmony, I almost wonder if she won't eventually end up as a Princess and make the human world her kingdom like Candace did the Crystal Empire.

I would be really disappointed and sad for Sunset Shimmer if the human world's original version of herself got anything special out of the deal, such as taking pony-shimmer's place in Equestria, or that even the human world's version of Twilight might bump her off as an important part of the Mane 6.  But, in that regard, human-Sparkle is away from Canterlot High and doesn't seem to have the same friendship thing going as the Twilight we're accustomed to.  It might be that it reinforces the idea of Sunset Shimmer being a Princess in this case and human-Twilight simply being the outsider joining in, like we've seen Sunset Shimmer being thus far.

Just a thought though.  There's Princesses popping up all over the place, so what's one mor?


As shown in the Crystal Mirror, Sunset Shimmer has the possible future of becoming an Alicorn and she was able to use the Element of Magic, and as a Unicorn from ponyville she retained her Unicorn magic just as the Sirens retained theirs, but had no catalyst so I can agree with this, however I want to extend on it. I think her becoming an Alicorn is still high and has to do the same as Twilight, which is, to learn the magic of friendship and that she will accomplish this through the human world.

Twilight became a princess after returning balance back to her friend's lives after she tampered with their destinies unknowingly. It would not surprise me that Sunset will do the same thing, possibly involving the doubles (either human sunset or most likely twilight) who may do something to ruin the balance and will choose to leave her human friends to return to Equestria as a cost to restore the balance and keep her friends safe: an ultimate act of friendship.

Also, I think it would throw the worlds out of balance if the alternates would make contact.

The theory of the doppelganger effect I think is used in Rainbow Rocks, but just hidden.

Twilight said it would be bad if there was suddenly 2 of all of them, but aside from it being confusing as she told them, I believe she was hiding the darker truth of the chance that it could destroy them and both worlds should they touch their earth counterparts. Maybe even a misbalance with the other elements, however I don't know about this one as, in a way, Twilight and Sunset share an element, and yet suffered no consequence, but rather, blended together. Possibly due to not being the other's doppleganger.

I also agree with your statement of it NOT being a 7th element. Since there is no magic on Earth, the only magic there is found in either love or friendship (though I feel Cadence and the Crystal Heart are truly a 7th element, as on her trading card she has the element of love and other similarities)


Hmm... this video made my theory complete. I think that what I have could be considered a fact. Plus, I know why the Dazzlings showed up so late after being banished. In the human world, the events of the first movie had just passed. I think that the time moves on slower there. And I have some proof. When the Dazzlings discovered the magic in Canterlot High, it was from the rainbow when Twilight fought against Sunset. And it couldn't have passed more than a week before they showed up, since they were so eager to feed of the magic.

Please tell me if you think that my theory is possible ^^

(And sorry for using the comments like this, but I had no better idea)


Hmmm... very good points! But two Twilights? Seems very unlikely... but definitely possible. I personally think that human Sunset Shimmer or pony Sunset Shimmer (I'm thinking human Sunset Shimmer most likely) will go to Equestria. That way it would be less confusing will two Twilights in Equestria. Wait... since they're parallel universes where one universe every pony is human and in the other every human is a pony, what if the events that happened in Equestria will happen in the "real" world? They just haven't happened yet and it will happen. Just a bit different since pony Twilight Sparkle went to the "real" world. Maybe Principal Celestia will some time in the future know human Twilight Sparkle and know that pony Twilight has the magic of friendship. So Principal Celestia will send human Twilight to the school to make some friends! And then there will be balance between the two worlds. Think about it.


It's interesting and deep theory. I am pretty sure hasbro's equestrian girls will not explain this though. They had great potential to go deeper into the story, but there just worried about selling toys and making sure the animation looks pretty.


That actually makes so much sense. Except I don't think the last part will happen. It would be confusing for the younger viewers to have one unicorn Twilight and one alicorn Twilight in the show, and then in the movies have two human Sunsets.


I dunno about the last part where human twilight comes to Equestria, but the whole Sunset being the sixth element in the human world I completely agree with. Through the whole second movie I kept think that as twilight was failing to keep things together it simply was because, while even though she was their friend, she wasn't the one who knew each of them. Sure they're mostly carbon copies of their pony counter parts but technically they are still different people. They're sunset's friends, and even though she is the opposite of twilight in a lot of ways, she's actually the glue that keeps their group together. I mean think about it. In the first movie she was the reason none of them were friends anymore, so it stands to reason they all sort of relied on her or valued her opinion more than normal. Much like how in Equestria the other ponies kind of rely on Twilight. (not to say the other five aren't independent or capable on their own, I just think they value twilight/sunset's opinion a little more than normal) The movies don't draw a whole lot of attention to it, but one thing I really find remarkable about these movies is how well they illustrate the difference between the two universes (eg how twilight didn't just fall into being human but rather had to adjust to it). I think sunset and twilight sharing the same role in different worlds is another illustration of that, and I honestly can't wait to see how else these differences come in to play.


I think it'd make more sense if one of the sunsets went to Equstria instead of twilight, also interesting how you mentioned the colors since there are 7 colors in a rainbow not 6


I think it'd be confusing to the viewers if there were two Twilights in Equestria. I think they'll probably do something with Human Sunset Shimmer and have her live in Equestria instead and have Human Twilight get her own little backstory or something.


this sounds like a really good theory and i wanted to point out how sunset shimmer and twilight sparkle are literally the same thing. twilight and sunset (the words) are like 2 minutes apart and shimmer and sparkle are the same thing. this might lead up to some confusing things.


I disagree with the whole "Two Twilights in One World and Two Sunset Shimmers in Another" because it just doesn't make sense. There needs to be one of every pony in Equestria and Canterlot High. If there are two Twilights in Equestria, everyone will freak out, and I'm guessing so would the elements since Twilight is the bearer of the element of Magic, and since there would be TWO Twilights, then the element of Magic wouldn't know which Twilight to "obey". And in Canterlot High it would be the same thing. Everyone would freak out seeing both of the Sunset Shimmers, and, going with the whole element of Friendship, it wouldn't know which one is the true bearer of the element. So I think that the Sunset Shimmer who doesn't know anything about friendship should go to Equestria and the Twilight who doesn't know anything about friendship should go to Canterlot High... Well, that's my opinion.


how about human sunset goes to Equestria and human Twilight stays in the human world... it's much more balanced that way. also, having two of the same pony/person would be a paradox (not to mention too confusing for the others around them)...


We don't even know what is Sunset's element yet, plus did anyone notice that Sunset Shimmer's cutie mark is similar to Celestia's? Also based on the Tree of Harmony A sun is there and leads to my theories...there are 8 elements of harmony, I could be wrong about that but it is something that I have been analyzing lately.


very interesting.. always had a feeling sunset had an element


I under stan you when you say in the begining, but it would still be balanced if sunset and twilight switched places because princess celestia said it would be unbalanced with two of one pony in face world.


I don't think it's the concept of two twilight's and two Sunset's in the same universe. I think it's more like this. We have human Twlilight and pony Sunset stay in the human world while human Sunset and pony Twilight are in Equestria. It goes back to what you said before of the Enchanted example. Both women ended up taking places in each one's individual world. Human Sunset takes place of pony Sunset while human twilight take place in the human world instead of going to Equestria.


Here's my theory:
Sunset can come back and help the mane 6 defeat a new villain in season 5. And Maybe In The New Equestria Girls,Pony Sunset,Pony Twilight And Spike Go Back To The Human World.
Or This Could Happen:
Sunset Goes through the portal to warn twilight that there is a new villain or new villains that have came to Canterlot High.
Another Theory:Twilight could go and visit her friends at Canterlot high and get some catching with the news.
Or:
Sunset Could come back to Equestria and visit the mane 6 and do some exploring around Equestria.
Maybe in the future,Sunset and Discord Get A Throne in Twilight's Castle? +TheBronyNotion Do You Think This Could Happen?
#AmIWrong?
#MyTheory.
#HopeItHappens!


I remember getting a sunset shimmer toy and it was surprising that she came with a element of harmony


It would make sense if it was going to be a  series finally and the end of the equestria girls chronicles but I don't think has bro wants to stop the show quite yet sunset would be more of a replacement twilight than a whole new element herself even though that world shouldn't have magic it already has it even when twilight is gone so having as the element of magic would be perfectly fine you make a good point as for the element of friendship


That is a great theory. It makes a whole lot of sense!


I think there can be 7 elements. Remember, not even the sisters no everything about the elements. Heck they certainly didn't expect the tree to make a castle for Twilight or literally infuse the bearers with the elements power. I think Sunset by her action MADE the 7th element, either forgiveness or friendship.I bet the next EG will actually be more in Equestria for once. and Human Twilight will find it, maybe wuth the help of Human Sunset Shimmer. and the human Sunset stays, maybe do to crappy life and perfers Equestria. EG3 will likely answer a lot of this.


i only partly agree

sure enough sunset will become the 7th bearer but her element would not replace twilights because she is only the person she is today because of forgiveness. twilights element is magic because of the spark. sunset shimmer never had that spark. there forre cannot be the bearer of friendship because friendship is magic. she would need to have a different element. in friendship forgiveness is important and sunset was forgave for what she had done. so its only logical that she is the bearer of forgiveness.


I Think You're Sort Of Right (exept when you said the part of that the rainbow's coming out of them were the color of the element's, its their fur color, exept in sunset)


I think that the human sunset shimmer will go to equestria while human twilight stays at in the human world instead. Therefore each world would have each of one person/pony and it still has one of each person that hasn't experienced the magic of friendship


Actually Sunset Shimmer is from Equestria, she left Celestia and went through the magic mirror, so there is only one Sunset Shimmer, if there was a Sunset Shimmer still in Equestria, I'm sure they would have shown that in some episode or something as a pony.


I think that there is a element of hope. A seventh pony affected by the rain boom. This person has the long lost element of hope.


Huh that actually makes since if you look at sunsets cutie mark it looks identical to Twighlight's I do believe she's the element of friendship seeing that all elements of harmony form into friendship if that makes any since it all depends on the writers though who knows maybe sunset will decide to go back to equestria and apologize to Celiestia and ask 4 another chance


I was thinking about it, and I think that if Sunset Shimmer was given an element, then her element would be the Element of Understanding or Comprehension. I thought that could be it. Comment your thoughts of it if you want.


Ok, so first of all, I had a theory of what they might make the next EG movie on (if they make one). It was that the mane 6, without human Twilight Sparkle, will find the real Twilight Sparkle and send a letter to Twilight Sparkle in Equestria saying that they found her without her being there. (Lol kinda confusing). When Twilight goes back to Canterlot High to try to create a spell to give her knowledge of past events and friendship of Canterlot High, her friends in Ponyville are impatient and decide to go into the mirror also.  There will be chaos and then eventually Twilight will figure out the spell and the human Twilight will stay with her Canterlot High friends and the Equestria Twilight will finally be able to stay in Ponyville permanently. Ok, now onto Sunset Shimmer being the 7th element. I actually think this is true, although I'm not sure what exactly her element would be. I thought that at first that it might be Bravery because she stood up to the Dazzlings on her own more than once and in the first movie took the big step of trying to reform, even when everyone else at the school hated her and didn't believe she could reform. Also, if Sunset Shimmer was originally Princess Celestia's student in Equestria, shouldn't there be another Sunset Shimmer in the human world? And if so, I think that in Season 5 Sunset Shimmer should choose to return to Equestria and her other human form that was there before would stay in the human world and receive the same knowledge as the Ponyville Sunset Shimmer, just like the real Twilight might. Just my opinion, and sorry for it being super long.


That makes quite a bit a sense... and I agree with most of it... until the end... Wouldn't it make more sense for Equestria Sunset Shimmer to guide the Human Twilight? and Equestria Twilight guide the former human Sunset Shimmer? The theory that one of the two would end up in Equestria makes some sense but wouldn't it be just as unbalanced if there were 2 twilights in Equestria?.... the theory of one being experienced and one not would still work but be a bit less confusing don't you think? I mean... if there were two of you, don't you think your friends and family would be confused to be running into you at say a coffee shop then bump into your exact duplicate on the street just a minute later?  It'd be chaotic, where the human Sunset is we don't know, for all we know she doesn't exist but that brings up a whole new bunch of questions that I really don't wanna start up for myself XD... so let's stick with the theory of there being two Sunsets and the human Sunset just hasn't shown up yet... Back to my point... and unexperienced Twilight in Equestria with an experienced Twilight... and Same with Sunset Shimmer... again... wouldn't that be confusing? rather than, a Inexperienced Twilight with Experienced or at least Learning Sunset and an inexperienced Sunset with an Experienced and willing to help a friend Twilight?... Ionno that's just my theory...


I found proof in Equestria Girls Rainbow Rocks that Sunset Shimmer is the Seventh Element of Harmony Balance.

just before Twilight calls out for Sunset Shimmer to help them there is a Spark in Twilight's Eyes. That same Spark appears six times in season 1 episode 2 which was the discovery of the elements! So rainbow rocks is the birth of a new element. so maybe Drwolf's theory about Twilight being clever the clever is more possible then it was. If twilight did create it how would she had know how in the first place? because she already did. so it looks like there may be three linked timeloops.


I think human Sunset Shimmer will go to Equestria for a while and then pony Sunset will teach human Twilight about the element of magic. After a while they'll probably trade back restoring the balance leaving the 2 Twilights as the elements of magic in both worlds


Maybe Human Sunset Shimmer will move to Equestria to restore balance? Having two of each in the same world would kind of throw everything off imo. Possibility there is no human Sunset Shimmer? Idk, only time will tell. :3


I thought Sunset Shimmer's element id redemption because well she reformed after knowing what she's done wrong and well i just think it's right for her


I feel like the other sunset would go to equestria well the other Twilight remains in The equestria Girls world. That way there'd be one Twilight and one sunset per world.


Good point I can see where you are coming from and your points hold up quite well.


I really think Sunset Shimmer would be the 7th element in the  human world!<br>


No, I think Sunset is a descendant of Starswirl and is pony Jesus and her mother was the Virgin Mare-y.

Also wouldn't it be more balanced if the Earth twilight stayed on earth and earth sunset went to pony-verse bc in Eq Twilight already learned friendship but sunset has no. In human world it works the same. Sunset has learned friendship and Twilight has not. Don't you think? Wouldn't it be a vortex if there were two of them in the same dimension?


uhm... Wouldn't it make more sense for the original human sunset shimmer to go and stay in Equestria? Because it would be totally off balance if there was two of the same person/pony in the same world at a time.


I think Sunset Shimmer's element should be bravery.


I agree with you about her getting an element but i think i would be forgiving people.


>not mentioning sunset shimmers voice being the singing voice of tara strong<br>this is imo pretty important bcz in equestria both belong to the same person, in the human world it belongs to twilights alter ego..

>not mentioning sunset shimmers voice being the singing voice of tara strong
this is imo pretty important bcz in equestria both belong to the same person, in the human world it belongs to twilights alter ego..


I see what your saying and where your going but I feel as if that were the case sunset shimmer would go back to Equestria to bring back balance two of the sames can't live in the same place the originals must return to where it's from for balance to be restored and I just wanted to add that I think sunset shimmer well go back hopefully as the seventh element I like that idea you had for forgiveness but I would hope she came back to fulfill her past destiny and become and alicorn and her and twilight become the new sum and moon alicorns but that's just super wishful thinking


I like your theory seems like the facts u proved really make sense I believe u


I think Suset Shimmer IS ONE OF THE ELEMENT OF HARMONY.And I think she's the element of FORGIVENESS


It's the element of hope, that's what her cutie mark represents


Maybe her element would be the Element of Feelings. I think this cause near the end of Equestria Girls, Sunset Shimmer apologized to Twilight and wasn't afraid to show her feelings. Also, since apologized, the Element of Feelings would look like pony Sunset Shimmer 's Cutie Mark. It would be an orange sun.


But if Sunset went to Ponyville (Human Sunset) Then wouldn't that be better? One of each character in each world and a foreigner in each one as well?


I guess it does make sense but what happens when human twilight meets her double?


Hey this makes more sense then a 7th element so.... GO TEAM!


Ah, I thought I was the only one. Say... wouldn't it be funny if she was the Element of Inspiration?


I would wait till the 3rd movie cause I am more curious of why H.Twi never shows up for school maybe like P.twi she's either home schooled or she's in a special school for the gifted


i think sunset shimmer is the 7th element because in E G, she was the villian the becomes good but in rainbow rocks, she takes the place of twilight when twilight isn't there. also, another color of the mane 6 appears. sunset shimmer learns what it is to have friendship.i could be wrong though.


I think her element is the element of humanity.


I think sunset shimmer is my favorite pony.


What if (just like twi) we find out there are 2 sun set shimmer possibly in the 3rd movie?

Plz reply brony nation i would like to know what your reply would be...


This is so true anyway SunSetShimmer is my favorite


Omg I agree with you. one night I was sleeping and woke up and told my brother that Sunset shimmer must be the element of Friendship. since well The mane six (HUMAN ONES) forgave her and Sunset shimmer is trying to be nice to every body.


Why not have the human Sunset Shimmer join Twilight. It would still be balanced as Neither Human Twi or Human Sun know about the magic of friendship.


i think since one world has a twilight and sun set shimmer i think one sun set shimmer will go to pony world and since sun set did live in the pony world she will stay with other twilight jest saying cuse there would be 2 twighlights in one and it would go all crazy jest saying :) but i get your point still


To all readers and all sunsets shimmer wouldn't y'all have the element of guides or guide ness because y'all did help the other six see the true light of friendship when that needed it most


By The way Sunset Shimmer's Cutie Mark for Equestria is a Wavy Sun of Red and Orange


has anyone noticed how twilights cutie mark has one big sparkle and five tiny sparkles I think it represents the elemants of harmony

I think it resembles the tree of harmony. The Element of Magic always had the shape of a Star (mlp fim S04 E01/02 and the other 5 Elements were Stones and resembled later the Cutie Marks from the other mane 5. I always thought that twilight would be the Princess of harmony due to those similarities. The Star is the Element that combines and activates the power of the other Elements and she have sind the Same since the beginning. Twilight resembles the complete tree of harmony.. I think it's sad that she got the title "Princess of friendship" just because it's the Name of the Show.... Harmony would fit more for her but I can understand that it would make her sound like she is Perfect which she is not..


that would be cool if Sunset Shimmer is the 7th Element of Harmony!!


i think when sunset went to earth, she had to get rid of her human self there, so there could be no questions...but for the twilight human...we dont know...we dont see shining armor nor cadence.......


I think that is the seventh Element of  harmony <br>


I feel like the original human Sunset will go back to the pony world and join the mane six.


Too confusing and complicated even though i could see sunset shimmer being an element of harmony because she was training to be celestias student before so there fore this only makes sense that she could be the element of friendship and because twilight sparkle and sunset shimmer are opposites including names,colors,hairstyles and even the fact that twilight is an alicorn while I don't believe that sunset shimmer was even a unicorn to begin with. Is friendship is magic then sunset shimmer has the element of friendship but even though they are opposite they balance each other out and it makes sense that sunset shimmer could've been celestias student prior to twilight.


Nightmare moon isn't a reformed villain she is a transformed one


I honestly think that sunset shimmer is going to come back to Equestria because Twilight will need her or something and she will become the element of Acceptance. The 7th element. The fact that there has to be another Sunset and another Twilight opens more possibilities. For example what if Sunset ( pony ) met Sunset ( human.) or what is the girls at Canterlot high met the other twilight ( human ). There is a third rainbow rocks movie coming out called "the friendship games." And Canterlot high is competing against the other school WHICH CONTAINS HUMAN TWILIGHT. I'm super excited for the next movie because I can tell Twilight ( human) is going to be really confused when the girls from Canterlot high think she is Twilight ( pony ).


I think sunset IS another element of harmony.


Ever think that the Human Twilight will enroll into Canterlot High because of all the science she did at the end of the movie Rainbow Rocks? Or that there's only one Sunset Shimmer?


Yo desde que vi la 2º pelicula de equestria gril supe que tendran que seer 7 elementos de la harmonia no 6


How I think it should go

Twilight Sparkle: Magic

Rarity: generosity

 Applejack: honesty

 Pinkie pie: laughter

Fluttershy: kindness

Rainbow dash: loyalty

 And then:

Sunset shimmer: courage

 Durpy: acceptance

Its my opinion!


You could be right if she does then what will happen?


That's a really good idea + the brony notion


i does make more sense for the original human sunset shimmer to permanently go to equestria, just as twilight didn't allow any of her friends to come with her as it would trigger a paradox, having two sunsets or twilights in the same world would cause chaos, not balance.


this one video made me sub to you. you are kinda like the game theorist of MLP. i love you, you shall become my fluffle puff


I do not disagree with your theory i just have my own.What is sunset shimmer is the element of balance sought of an unknown element that can be added if the bearer is there. My theory is this remember when the whole mane six fell apart in the human world she restored that balance of friendship between them all put them all in one piece kinda like twilight does in equestria she keeps the mane 5 in balance if she is not there they start to argue fight and loose harmony so maybe before twilight had even come to know the human world there wasn't any harmony because there wasn't an element of balance added and that's why the mane 5 fell apart in the human world remember this is just a theory that i came to think of that when twilight can not keep balance that element is needed to make sure there is harmony anyway tell me your thoughts on this theory because i just thought i had to put it in the comment section thanks :)


I thought of that but never really would happen?!


It's not 'gonna happen, but I like your idea.


well i would agree but if she was the 7th element......then the rainbow has now a red color which look great but will she come back to the pony world i mean she came back but just to take twilight`s crown but will she come back to fight a future invader of equisteria? and you said she will stay on the human world but for me there is still a chance she will come back


its a possibility,but more of a 50% & 50%


I think sunset shimmer will become an element in the real world but not in equistria


well lets look at sunset shimmers cutie mark. the mane 6's cutie mark's just happened to match the elements but sunset shimmers looks a little like celestia's. so i think that she has something to do with celestia. ok back to the theory, so what i think about sunset shimmer is that because she is a unicorn she should not be the 7th element or she should replace twilight as she is now a princess. i think this because there is 2 earth ponys 2 unicorns and 2 pegasi and since twilight is now an alicorn sunset shimmer should replace twilight. sorry this is so long and tell me what u think about my theory


Pony twilight=good
Pony sunset=bad then good
Human sunset=unknown
Human twilight=unknown

What if human twilight was the antagonist in the next EG movie?!


I think I know what is going to happen in equstria girls<br>


I am confused Twilight did tell the Equestria Girls about her pony life but she didn't tell the her Pony friends about her human life.


I know this isn't part of a theory but i want to two things. 1. Are the dazzling sisters or friends?.And 2. Where did the dazzlings get the the necklaces?.


I have a theory so in sunset shimmers name it is sun and set maybe she brings the sun set as a posed to almost night or day or maybe she's the 4th princess celestia sun luna night twilight friendship sun set shimmer Sun set it makes since right guys?


Twilight is the element of friendship and magic but friendship + magic = 1 element


I THINK SUNSET SHIMMER IS THE 7TH ELEMENT :3


So if Sunset Shimmer is the element of Friendship the show would be called My Little Pony Sunset Shimmer is Magic?

Just saying XD........


Sunset Shimmer is the element of Music. it's canon


Sunset shimmer is probably the element of trust


I disagree cause then there won't be any since I think the non magic sunset shimmer will go to equestrian and the non magic twilight sparkle will stay in the human world 😝


I don't know if twi and sunset shimmer have two of them selves in different worlds like  canterlot high and the palce cantorlot it kind of makes sense tho but if sunset shimmer meets her self and also does twi I cantorlot hi and in a equestria couldn't that be wired so if they do meet and if sunset is the seven element there should be 7 elements when they brought back princes luna and defeated nightmare moon and sunset wouldn't abadon her studys and sunset and twi could be bpff ( best pony friend forever) sunset wouldn't go to canterlot tho if the  other flluter dashie and aj and dashie wouldn't be friends so that my opinon


I argue with ILOVEorange because if ur saying that there's a original twilight and... O whatever at the end of the movie she says ~there is something strange about that school~ so that means she DOESNT go to canter lot


I think your on the right track but that is alittle bit crazy at the same time i mean really human twilight coming to equestria to live with equestria twilight and so forth with sunset shimmer.Ithink human sunset shimmer might go to equestria and human twilight will stay there and but of them will learn  and friendship and live on happy as can be. oh and i think your right about the 7th element.


Who says there is another Sunset in the human world?


Don't get me wrong, Sunset Shimmer is great, but making her the 7th Element of Harmony... It would take some time to get used to, considering that the other ponies in Equestria don't know about her, and knew that she did bad things... maybe it could happen. Sunset Shimmer has already replaced Twilight in the human world, and has been friends with them for a while. Wouldn't it be hard to leave her friends?


Um, No. The alternate sunset shimmer will go to the pony world, it would be to insane for two twilights to exist in equestria.


I do and yet I don't think sunset shimmer is not a seventh element because I mean if sunset does go back to equestria she and twilight's element would mean the same. I do because well in rainbow rocks the rainbow added another color due to sunsets transformation. I don't know its hard to decide but I am going with a bit more yes than no.


Magic of equestria, Sunset shimmer it is there life


Shouldn't her element be like determination or courage?


Do you realize the names twilight sparkle and sunset shimmer are synonyms?


You have also seen that movie it is like the Best of the Best movies ever


New brony so much to learn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i think she is the 7th element; forgiveness!


umm she is the 7th element of harmony because in the movie rainbow rocks the dazzlings turn into dragons not ponies and sunset shimmer turn into a pony and her color went to the rainbow and if the red does not come out it will just be rainbows not a gaint alicon and when the red came into the rainbow it matched and sunset shimmer did used to live in pony vile but she failed her studies and went inside the portal.


um but sunset shimmer has a cutie mark of a sun thats is very different from celestia's so i think it would be  possible if sunset shim which i nicknamed myself from sunset shimmer she would be the element of friendship just like you and the gem would be the sun


Dude not bad theory Sunset might be a 7th element


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um... i know a cople things about the 3rd ecestrea girls movie and at the end she becomes dark twilete mening you failed!!!

can i get a waffle, can i pLEaSe get a WafFLe


I think that sunset shimmer is the  seventh element of harmony because look at  twilight sparkles cutie mark me she has  8 points on her cutie mark just look at it in the movie rainbow rocks


let me stop you right there there has bin 4 seasons with mention of 6 elements this 6 elements that the video title sounds like there is an 7 element plus how can she be an element when she's not in the pony world <b>ahem</b> were the real bad guys are (i think didn't watch the rest of the movie)

let me stop you right there there has bin 4 seasons with mention of 6 elements this 6 elements that the video title sounds like there is an 7 element plus how can she be an element when she's not in the pony world *ahem* were the real bad guys are (i think didn't watch the rest of the movie)

@taylor marie hayton oh (thanks for the spoilers)

actually she did become a seventh element

towards the end of the movie though


There is no other sunset simmer but there is one


OKAY LOOK BRO. I AM NOT EVIL ANYMORE. KAY???


I thinked very long and it seems to me that sunset shimmer kust have something with celestia to do.<br>Be 0cause they were very near to each othher and the i though mybe sunset is daugher of celestia and look theirs cutie marks are almost same

I thinked very long and it seems to me that sunset shimmer kust have something with celestia to do.
Be 0cause they were very near to each othher and the i though mybe sunset is daugher of celestia and look theirs cutie marks are almost same


U know you could be on to something here only that iam not so sure about two twlights in equstria


i dont reallry get it twilight has magic isnt friendship magic like really if that where true why whold sunset be friendship


i a gree cuz if twilight got one and sun set shimmer does not have one it would not be fair


I disagree if your thorey where Infact true then why are there 7 colors in the rainbow? Because twilight is still the element of magic. And who said a new element can't be made? Twilight grew wings! WINGS! She changed race and they are talking ponds in a magical world and two princess ponies controll night and day. Logic was just kicked ot the window. Sunset is the 7th element. I'm sure this will be cleared up later in the season. And Camrera Kitty said but there is one of every pony (why are we doing horse puns?) enyway it's is clear that she is the element forgiveness she had to forgive her self for what happend for them to truely become friends so your idea is WRONG. I proved it.😉


It won't work no 2 ponys can live in the same world cause no 2 humans are the same look


It should only be confusing in the human world not the pony world because human twilight is not a princess


I have liked you till this video shut up sunset is from equestria and there is a twilight there she is the element of forgiveness and so we will probably see sunset come back to her world twilight is the element everywhere in both worlds. Sunset probably made a new element I do not think yours is likely


But is there not a twilight in the human world because I thought I heard something about there being a human twilight

Watch till the end of that movie...you will be in for a surprise.


As pewdiepie always said brohoof (is that it or I dunno I don't really watch pewdiepie in my opinion he gets to many views)


славянский день


Interesting theory, though here's a slighter darker interpretation of what happened to the human Sunset Shimmer: if pony Sunset turned "cruel and dishonest" when she didn't get what she wanted under Celestia's mentorship, it's possible that she would be willing to do harm to her counterpart in order to blend in properly and not cause any disruption. Is it possible that the reason we see three different photos of Fall Formal Princess Sunset in the first movie -- one where she seems sweet and flattered, another where she is smugly smirking, and a third where she's flat-out cackling -- is because the first one is the original human Sunset, who's no longer around?

Alternatively, she could have just gone to a different school, like pony Sunset went to a different world :P.


Yeah, I was totally thinking this when I watched the film. When Sunset got her ears and tail when she transformed and her colour went into the rainbow of friendship, as I call it, I was thinking "Oh, wow! Sunset Shimmer is part of them now!" so I think that she could possibly be the 7th element of harmony. She could be the 'Twilight', as in leader, for the main characters in the human world. Interesting notions and good analysis on your theory. Brohoof! /)