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Emo Peter Parker 2015-11-04 09:31:42

It's so cool seeing how much this channel has grown in the past two years!

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Robyn Guthrie 2020-12-07 05:59:56

Six years now

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IDK Monster 2021-10-15 09:30:01

Eight years now

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Ellijah Cel 2022-06-10 13:13:05

8 yrs and 7 months now

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Shelbi Hogan 2021-07-26 22:28:18

I know this video was YEARS ago and I haven’t watched all of your videos (yet) so it might have already been addressed, but hear me out: when twilight casts the spell in Magical Mystery Cure, it switched her friends’ destinies. She was able to remind them who they were meant to be by having them do what they were always supposed to. What if that happened to the pillars when Starswirl initially created the spell as well? And he had to do that with them as well but he never made the connection. Just a random thought

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Deme F.Q 2014-01-29 16:53:00

Hmm interesting. The "real reason" you're proposing Discord did what he did is certainly more concrete than the one we got. However, Discord looked quite grumpy when Cadence reassured Twilight in the end, so I think he genuinely wanted to pose a test to Twilight.

And what could Twilight possibly discover about Discord in that exhibition? She has studied countless hours on Star Swirl the Bearded already, no doubt. If there was any dark secret to uncover about him or any connection to make she would have done so already... Are the writers really capable of keeping Discord's "true identity" a secret all throughout since Luna Eclipsed?

Oh, and I believe that one of the reasons many fans get the impression that Star Swirl and Discord are one and the same is Star Swirl's fan interpretation (at 0:12), where he appears to be gray and tenacious much like Discord himself. But now for the first time we have a clue about what Star Swirl really looked like; according to the poster at 1:32 , he was pure white. This doesn't exactly disprove the theory, but it's definitely a curious detail to take into account.

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Deme F.Q 2014-03-11 14:16:12

@SmileyPony13
It's been a long time since Star Swirl was introduced and this is the first clue about his bodily appearance the show has given us. I don't think the show staff would fool us so simply after so many seasons. Star Swirl was most definitely pure white, like seen in the poster. The gray model for Star Swirl was completely conceived by a fan artist (minus the clothing) and several other artists also adopted that model later.

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Southwest Snail 2014-05-21 23:27:30

@Deme F.Q In the IDW comics, Star Swirl appears as a sort of gray-ish blue pony, much like the fanon interpretation in this video.

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Deme F.Q 2014-05-22 06:06:48

@Alma Martinez
Indeed, go figure. My comment was posted quite some time before he appeared in the comics.

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Southwest Snail 2014-05-22 21:31:43

@Deme F.Q Coincidence I guess XD

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Deme F.Q 2014-06-06 10:18:20

@Emily Wheetley
I don't think so, that's mostly wishful thinking. It's hard for Discord to be Star Swril the way he's portrayed. Even more so after the Season 4 Finale, think about it chronologically (POSSIBLE SPOILERS):

1) Celestia & Luna free Equestria from Discord by imprisoning him in stone.
2) Celestia & Luna then rule Equestria in a sense of peace.
3) Sometime in the future, Tirek and his brother Scorpan arrive to conquer Eqestria and steal its magic. Scorpan befriends a unicorn wizard who clearly appears to be Star Swirl.

It's quite obvious from these facts that Discord and Star Swirl are separate individuals.
Now, you might ask, "How did Tirek and Discord know each other from the past, since Discord was imprisoned when Tirek arrived to Equestria?" I have no idea. They probably first met each other outside of Equestria, long before Discord started to rule in Chaos. Or the MLP writers just screwed up badly, it won't be the first time!

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RC 2018-07-09 22:27:35

Deme F.Q But in the season 7 finale "Shadow Plays" where Twilight brought back Starswirl his appearance is gray maybe the poster was wrong since no living pony (other than the princesses ) has seen Starswirl's real appearance

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Southwest Snail 2015-03-03 19:48:33

I still agree with this fan theory. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that tries to disprove it, but it can be easily countered.

For example, John DeLancie (I hope I spelled his name right) saying he didn't know who Star Swirl was. Let's be honest, he could have been either saying the truth OR he could have been lying to keep spoilers a secret. Saying out and loud that Star Swirl is Discord would be really heavy-handed on the spoilers, and something like that is much better kept as a surprise.

When Tirek asked about Discord being free of his stone prison, he could have easily referred to the SECOND time he was imprisoned. This fits with the timeline, since in S2 Tirek was already out and about, roaming Equestria.

The comics issue can be easily disregarded. They're endorsed by Hasbro, sure, but many of the stories that happen there clash with the canon of the show. I recall reading that they were made by fans, for fans, so if this is correct then that disproves their canonicity.

And as for the Diary of the Two Princesses, Star Swirl could have easily taught the two princesses before the whole reign of Discord happened, since they already had their cutie marks when confronting Discord. Same with his friendship with Scorpan.

Yeah I won't lie the theory is a bit farfetched sometimes, but let's be honest, there really isn't nothing in canon that disproves it wholly.

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Abril's cool 2015-07-09 04:03:11

And let's remember he doesn't even read the whole script he only reads his lines

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slapahoe0 2014-03-27 16:05:36

Mlp comic issue #17, starswirl was around during the time after discord was turned into stone. It seems starswirl and discord are not one and the same after all.

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Sawtooth Waves 2014-03-27 20:04:10

Remember he was famous for his time spells, so I suppose both could exist at once through time travel.  I haven't read the comics yet but I really should. /)

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KaityKat117 2017-04-14 02:15:07

Plus, the comics are not canon.

@TBN pls don't start using the comics as a basis for theories. They aren't canon, and they'll ruin the credibility of your theories.

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hoc cung con 2021-08-17 14:13:13

Actually, later sawtooth admitted that he was wrong

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CocaColaStan 2022-05-07 18:30:51

@Sawtooth Waves Well.

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Splash Kit 2018-07-16 02:52:52

Bwahaha!!!





Welcome to 2018, where the season finale of season 7 came out and shoved this theory down the drain!
but seriously, this theory is now impossible.

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Elfont-Caradonna Family Account 2020-05-18 13:53:42

I love how devoted to this theory you are. I love it too, to be perfectly honest. STAR SWIRL = DISCORD TO THE ENDDD

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Derpy Whooves 2014-11-29 15:19:14

I have a theory of my own to share here and now , and it goes like this:
What if Starswirl the Bearded wasn't just ANY unicorn?
We all know that he was a great unicorn who helped develop alot of the magic in equestria's early days.  We also known that he lived BEFORE celestia and luna.
As far as alot of ponies in equestria can tell he's a respected unicorn. My theory (or conspiration...you choose) is that Starswirl the Bearded fell in love with Celestia (or Luna...your choice).
However for unknown reasons (it's just a suggestion that this happened) Celestia (or Luna) rejected Star Swirl's proposition[Maybe because they felt that they were more responsible for the balance of Equestria more]. That made him be angry at the Two Sisters (or maybe just Celestia/Luna). Let's say that one night he tried to talk to Celestia (or Luna...or the two together) and he was VERY desperate to get Celestia (or Luna...your pick again) to the point where he was about to unleash something terrible only to get what he wanted. Maybe that's how Starswirl vanished and turned to either one of the following two things : either THE SHADOW PONY or Discord [however that last WINK of Discord toward Celestia in Twilight's Kingdom Part 2 was kinda suspicious]. We all know that Celestia and luna have dark secrets of their own too so it wouldn't surprise me that they told nopony about this so that he can be remembered with his good deeds?
Let me know what you think of my Theory/Conspiracy :P
with love , DiscordedBrony                                                      
                                                                                  This Is 100% Discord Aproved

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Brian Van Kirk 2019-04-30 20:53:56

perfect

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Kevin M. 2016-06-24 22:54:27

I highly doubted that Discord had any relation to Star Swirl, let alone
be Star Swirl at first. I even believed this before the Season 4
finale. I honestly believe Discord and Star Swirl are two completely
different individuals.

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WagRhodes13 2015-01-30 21:45:18

I like this theory, but the season 4 finale generally disproves it. Discord and Tirek address each other as if they had previously met or at least familiar with each other by reputation. Tirek is definitely aware of Discord being turned to stone. The Sisters were ruling Equestria at the time of Tirek's and Scorpan's arrival. The flashback in part two seems to indicate that the pony befriended by scorpan seems to be starswirl, although, that admittedly would probably make starswirl fairly old.

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Alex Knight 2015-10-16 11:43:06

I still don't see how a simple change of destiny could corrupt ones physical form so much. There is no other instance of ones physical from being drastically changed other than Luna to Nightmare Moon. But even thats not very drastic

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Defizo 2015-05-13 15:47:40

I think Twilight's Kingdom disproved the theory completely. Scorpan knew Star Swirl when he and Tirek were in Equestria, but when Tirek escapes from Tartarus, he knows who Discord is an recognises him instantly, probably because he read about him somewhere before he was banished. This means Discord had to have been turned to stone BEFORE Tirek and Scorpan came to Equestria, but Star Swirl is still around at that time, meaning Discord can't possibly be him

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Skyla 2018-09-21 22:14:25

Well this has been crushed by seasons 8n7

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Nightmarecrow 2014-10-10 08:20:15

I believe that Star Swirl wanted to create new magic like any other pony with infinite knowledge would do. Experimented on different kind of spells along the side discovering different beings on their planet. And in order to interact with those other beings he tries to become them (like to solve problems that occurred during that time but in order to understand that one must be like them. Try to create harmony but in order to do so, they need to know how it feels like to be them). To be in their shoes, per se. And with magic there comes a time where you make mistakes. As a result, Discord was formed. A harmless spell to help him create harmony ended up creative chaos and discord, thus Discord.

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yippee 2015-08-03 16:00:40

The tent behind the candle could have given hints about him becoming discord, like a changeling spell, and so he had to stop twilight from connecting the thing with the thing.

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PinappleSmoothie 2014-08-14 18:41:05

I think that these theories are really cool, and believable, but I don't know if mlp is the kind of show to throw in conspiracies like that

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Alex Rothwell 2014-06-21 19:52:20

I disagree becuase tireck knew about star swirl and discord sepretly second star swirl found the elements of harmony and if he knew they might defight him then why wouldn't he just cast a spell so they can't

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NatsumeOpossum 2014-08-12 08:27:19

There was a head cannon I watched and it was that star swirl was taken out of time by discord and he didnt age he couldn't get out he just was able to watch and with the shadow pony thing maybe being star swirl it makes complete sense i litterly think its true maybe he was watching as strange ponies entered the princess's castle and he wasn't pleased and he could only appear as a shadow if you could will you do a response to this comment I would like to know you thoughts

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Draxeid 2014-11-23 01:28:18

Men you done it again... I love this :D i was never looking that deep in to some those episodes but when you say like this then it makes really a lot of Sense :)

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MrVortex 1118 2014-05-22 21:47:54

no, i think really discord just wanted to screw with twilight.

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Sawtooth Waves 2014-05-23 11:29:55

That's what he WANT'S you to believe! BWAHAHAHA!... you're probably right.

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Lisha Hernandez 2014-05-26 11:12:00

Discord probably just wanted Twilights attention.

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Alanah Samson 2014-06-29 17:41:36

NO DUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Sarrel Macintosh 2014-08-12 11:19:28

Eeyup

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Her Loyal Highness, Princess Rainbow Dash 2015-01-28 22:55:10

Yeah! It's the only thing that makes sense. :3 Discord is always trolling anyway.

~Dash~

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Rarity Pie 2015-08-03 20:21:28

@The Brony Notion But now since the season 3 finale twilight has the spell to reverse the process if it is the spell from season 3 so why didn't discord take the opportunity to turn himself back to star swirl or perhaps he made friends as Discord so he wants to stay that way or perhaps he's too evil to want to change back

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Lupen 2015-08-12 10:12:11

@Lisha Hernandez Senpai notice me :'3

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Annija Marta Meldere 2016-03-21 15:56:13

Discord may be starswirld. And yes... discord is similar to changelings. Wanna know why? And... There is a problem. If he's similar to changelings, but changelings are similar to ponies... Discord have to be similar to ponies but he isn't! But with this video you fixed this my problem! And yes... Sorry for my bad english! And yes... You're great!

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Aisyah Bashirah 2016-05-01 15:32:07

+The Brony Notion see my comment

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Scarlet TheDoge 2016-05-11 17:13:59

Fluttershy. But even so, no

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Scarlet TheDoge 2016-05-11 17:15:15

+Her Loyal Highness, Princess Rainbow Dash (Her Awesomeness) OMG YOUR SO AWESOME AJ AND RAINBOW R MY FAV CARACTERS

(Yes, I know that was spelt wrong)

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Budo w/ bestie Winter Taylor 2017-04-02 00:10:12

Phoenix Flames no

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Eris Sather 2018-09-10 15:35:31

lol.

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FullMetalFeline 2014-08-24 21:28:12

Wasn't starswirl meant to be celestia's student at one point? If so, maybe he was destined to attempt to become an alicorn like twilight, but becaue he had no friends, and didnt understand friendship, when he cast the spell it just mixed up all his memories and body (rather than that of his friends) into an unrecognizable form. Like how  twilight's friends had confused memories of who they were perhaps this was also true for starswirl/discord and he could no longer remember himself. Maybe this could also suggest that twilight could have failed the test and turned into a horrific chimera too XD

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Eeriest_Artist 2015-12-29 06:24:22

maybe starswirl didn't become discord, discord could be a second form for starswirl created by some messed up spell. this would mean that starswirl only took the form of discord around a select few. until his starswirl side perished because his discord form wanted power starswirl prevented him from having. discord kills him and sets out to obtain equestria. this could mean that even though discord was evil he was still apart of starswirl giving him a warmspot for fluttershy and friendship moments with the mane six . starswirl didn't understand friendship, maybe he longed for it so much that when discord see certain moments of friendship he becomes nice . of course this is after his some what reform revives a small price of starswirl

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Sakura love light 2014-06-05 19:56:47

 well the pitchers of Star Swirl i've seen so far kinda douse make it look like it could be true by the bread the eye brow the color of his heed, but in the season 4 season finale they bring Star Swirl into it when Tirek first time came and that made me wounder was that before or after Discord was taken down the first time be for tirek or after??? because if tirek was before discord it then it could be so but if tirek came after discord then it can't be true

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LeaAlverezOfficial 2015-02-08 18:24:06

You made some good point that I wouldn't have thought of, but I think Discord was just being obnoxious, joker, and just messing with Twilight to have fun.

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The Dark Force 2015-05-28 01:56:09

It makes sense the glob episode in season 5 discord says I never had a friend like you which means that he might have not had a friend before like the beard pony

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NotAGovernmentDrone 2014-09-14 15:28:19

star swirl could of been using a spell like the frog orange thing and acidently turned himself into discord and lost his mind

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Kimberly Hood 2014-08-02 23:41:58

Something just came to me. In hearths warming eve, that say that it was long before the rule of Celestia, and that clover the clever was a student of starswirl the bearded. However, in magical mystery cure, Celestia says that Starswirl was her student... How does that work?? Do you think you could do a video analyzing this?

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neffers 2014-08-18 19:22:39

I think it's just an inconsistency in the show's writing. ^^

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LPSkippy 2015-01-11 01:59:43

It wasn't as if celestial didn't exist, it was just that she didn't RULE yet so stars will could have been taught by celestial, then taught clover the clever, plus celestial is an alicorn, who knows how long she's been around

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Her Loyal Highness, Princess Rainbow Dash 2015-01-28 23:00:01

@Cape Yeah. Hasbro's writers and their strange inconsistencies.

~Dash~

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Coral_The_Cookie 2015-05-25 03:32:15

I agree with your theory. In the episode 7 of season 5 discord was gonna send tree hugger to a different dimension. In the second movie of equestria girls it said starswirled banished the sirens to a different dimension.

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Missed the Band Wagon 2015-05-25 04:49:38

@pritty kitty I know, the more information we get about both of them the more I'm convinced of this theory. I mean they can both use time magic, the can open portals to other dimensions and if "The Journal of the Two Sisters" is cannon we know that Star Swirl was going mad in his later years.

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thechatteringclown 2015-06-30 23:04:40

@Missed the Band Wagon sorry for digging up the old comment, but where in the stories is it mentioned that star swirl was going mad? i tired to reread it but i can't seem to find what you are talking about. i was just wondering, since i'm researching star swirl for a project of mine at the moment and i accidentally came across this video, though the info would be useful.

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Missed the Band Wagon 2015-06-30 23:16:17

Actually now that I've read it for myself I don't think he was going mad, but he was getting more risky, like using that time spell even though he and Celestia were still working on it. And I'm pretty sure they said some other stuff along those lines but I don't know for sure. But saying that he was going mad or that he didn't have any friends isn't really true.

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Addie Skinner 2014-09-24 23:45:58

Have you noticed that Star Swirl and Discord have a fairly similar look?

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Stella Nova001 2015-05-01 14:03:23

I really like the story about Discord being starswirl but I can't aggree. Celestia told us that Discord is the spirit of Chaos and I don't really see the conecion of him being starswirl.

Just my opinion (and sorry for my english still learning, not my first language)

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0ffical M!lkshake 2015-09-19 17:03:47

In that episode of disharmony I play a my little pony game and in the ever free Forest I can see the necklaces and the crown in some parts of the trees in the exact shape of the triangle or circle of the shape that they are held in.

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xXxCute_ LovexXx 2016-06-01 16:36:26

+Fire Star Good theory! Maybe because Star Swirl was Discord's past self. When he underwent that transformation, he turned into Discord. And when Discord started coming to Ponyville, he didn't know how to be nice. Fluttershy taught him to be nice. So Star Swirl would want to be friends with Fluttershy!!

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xxx 2017-05-16 09:38:03

I do think that discord is indeed star swirl , why?
Well...if you look closely at star swirl and discord,what I observed is that both of them have white,bushy eyebrows and beards.coincidence? too coincidental?
Secondly,like a lot of people said,star swirl might have wanted to be the greatest unicorn in equestria, probably even wanting to rule equestria as well,after all,he is known for his incredible magic.However,when two stronger ponies,alicorns,celestia and Luna came to equestria,it was pretty obvious that they are the next rulers,thus,star swirl might have gotten jealous of their power,using everything he can,he might have created a spell to supposedly send celestia and Luna to a different dimension or smth (as seen in make friends and keep discord,or smth else I forgot) ,but it backfired and instead transformed him into a different creature,well,discord.
Thirdly,who knows,starswirl might not be just a great unicorn,he might as well be a great unicorn of chaos,like discord :D Okay okay too little evidence is provided there.
Fourthly,magical mystery cure,that spell he wrote,he wrote it in the point of view of a pony who doesn't have friends,"the marks of one's destiny singled out alone,fulfilled".That could refer to him,he certainly didn't know the magic of friendship like twilight does,so he probably didn't experience friendship.He most likely was trying to point out that one's destiny,his destiny will be singled out from the other ponies in equestria and will be fulfilled (etc ruling equestria,being the hero,saving equestria) who knows?

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Animus 2014-10-26 14:11:53

What if Star Sworld helped Celestia and Luna defeat discord? In any flashback, we haven't heard his voice, at all so we don't know if he is! But how did Star Sworld turn evil? Discord was evil and, Star Sworld was ever so close to the Princesses.

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SSValPal 2015-12-11 05:13:13

Who else is really freaking excited to see if Star Swirl is the focus of season six?

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Peytonn 2016-04-03 00:25:12

me!

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aziza 2016-04-28 15:44:23

It's not. ~future me

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Ivy Inkwell 2017-07-23 23:40:55

omg. you have GOT to write a fanfiction 'bout this theory. it'll be huge. that is all there is to say.

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Geena Rerucha 2021-01-18 04:55:48

Did you finish?

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Michelle Mytkowski 2014-07-21 21:38:54

Discord just wanted to screw with Twily I totally agree but he knew where she was also to bug her during her time with Cadence because Fluttershy wasn't there for him to boss around ... And wouldn't there all ready be a poster that Discord is Star Swirl the Bearded?

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Sarah Starkweather 2015-11-01 07:25:53

I think Discord is Star Swirl because if you look at the two side by side and think about both they have many similarities like they both have the same color coat but for discord its only his head coat, same eyebrows, they both have beards, and they are both extremely powerful they can both open portals into other dimensions. That is all the evidence I have I don't know about you but for me this makes since.

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Nicole Rodriguez 2015-04-17 01:09:47

Discord Cn't be Star Swirl cause' Starswirl helped tireks brother ( who I forgot his name) see that he could be good and Tirek was sent to a far away jail but in that time Tirek knew who discord was cause' in episode Twilights kindgdom Tirek knew who Discord was and if Discord was Starswirl Tirek would have not known who he was.

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human number zero 2018-07-07 04:25:00

This sadly can be proved wrong because in season 7 star swirl actually appears officially stating your theory, wrong. (Im sorry if it sounds mean this was probably made a long time ago)

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Snowy Shiney 2016-03-21 13:08:51

Let me ask if discord was star swirl bearded who would have might have the magic stronger than star swirls and turn him into a character like discord?

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Snowy Shiney 2016-03-21 13:09:23

Besides star swirl is known as one of the strongest ponies around

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Scroll Bar 2015-10-16 15:08:12

2 things, one discord has the ability to go across dimensions.... for example the sock puppet dimension. and had a friend called the smooze, so really he had a "friend" and starswirl also has a friend of what ever tireks brother is... Discord would have to know who tirek is in order to be friends with tireks brother...

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Scroll Bar 2015-10-16 15:08:46

+rockrider sd For what ever tireks brothers name I ment to say XD

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thegamefree1 2014-11-01 22:58:44

in MLP EG Rainbow  Rocks   there were 3 sirens that were  making  chaos  and Star swirl banished them to EG World. so in time line there was Chaos before Discord came to be. just watch the movie.

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Katie Nagamura 2015-08-21 23:25:56

My theory is that their was an alacorn named umbra. OK I think star swerl used dark magic to turn himself to an alacorn and used the name umbra then a few days later he turned himself in to a choes bringer witch might very well be Discord

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Something Something 2015-07-29 00:24:12

Have you checked out discords pony wing? It's blue like star swirl the bearded

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enock blanc 2016-11-29 02:42:57

There is one thing that bothers me, since you said Star Swirl turned into Discord, then why does Discord have wings.

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Sophie Rose 2017-01-02 02:47:55

because it is CHAOS

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krazykoala 13 2014-07-20 02:44:28

Good job but watching these at night is Kinda scary cause I think about the creatures

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Mocking Sketch 2014-11-03 00:32:40

HE WAS TRYING TO RUIN CANDENCES VISIT WITH TWILIGHT!!!!!!!
HE IS DISCORD FOR PEATS SACE!

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Leen Al-anzy 2021-07-22 15:41:36

Turns out, you were right all along




AND THEY CALLED ME A FOOL!!

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Nyx 2015-07-17 15:27:47

I always thought something was off when star swirled just disappeared

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Violet Nocte 2015-07-19 03:25:40

End of season 3: Starswirl the Bearded "didn't understand friendship very well"
End of season 4: He made friends with a non-pony (I forgot Tirek's brother's name). Make up your mind Hasbro! BTW this means Discord isn't Starswirl because he said he never really had a friend. Unless he means after he became a draconiquus.

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The Smoking Skull 2015-07-29 06:53:57

Remember, Starswirl had no friends as a unicorn and Discord had no friends until Fluttershy finally befriended him, and that was well into Season 3. However, he was never really Fluttershy's friend until Season 4-5, when she taught him how to be a real friend.

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S. P. López 2015-07-30 02:40:47

@Bella the Bunny Maybe Discord doesn't remember he was Starswirl.

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The Smoking Skull 2015-07-30 03:18:23

@Saria Beltane Exactly. Remember how the rest of the Mane 6 (not including Twilight of course) could not remember their previous memories? They believed that they had always been working at each others' jobs and had no memories of their previous lives. Just as a side note, Discord was the only character (other than Twilight in a later season) to demonstrate time-travel spells (he did it in the second episode of Season 2). What is one thing Starswirl is famous for? Creating time-travel spells. He even has a whole wing in the palace library dedicated to his time-related spells.  

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Scroll Bar 2015-10-16 15:05:05

+The Smoking Skull Discord had the Smooze

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The Smoking Skull 2015-10-16 15:07:31

@rockrider sd​ ...I don't think the Smooze is relevant to the whole "Starswirl/Discord" argument.

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Probably Hooman 2014-12-14 03:30:16

i have a short theory about starswirl for the people who's favorite pony is starswirl you arent gonna like it so dont read it...STARSWIRL IS EVIL!why would he create that spell if he was good?and why would he wanna do this to other pony's ?and why would he think that it would work if it would only work when he needed relationships?

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AnniArtist39 2015-01-27 20:09:54

What if a tyrant tried to take over Equestria, and the mane 6 were not enough. what if the tyrant took all 6, and Discord tried to ignore them, but when he "mystically" hears Fluttershy's cries, he springs to action, defeats the tyrant, knocking himself out in the process. suddenly the elements all start glowing, raising the confused ponies, their magic all comes together on Discords limp body, raising him, and FLASH, you see a young Starswirl the Bearded laying down in his place. All the ponies gather to see what he's become, when he wakes up, he sees everyone staring at him, then he notices he's changed.

Going with the theory provided, I'd say when he performed the spell, it not only changed his body, but his magic too, causing the confusing magic mix-ups (aka chocolate milk rain, cotton candy clouds... ect). while unable to properly create magic anymore, he became discouraged and gave up trying to break the curse. (This also could explain the confussion as to how much power he actually has, because the truth is, it changes constantly, so really, it depends).

However, when he performed the act of sacrificing one's self for another (or in this case, 6 others), he showed the greatest act of kindness there is to show, thus, breaking the spell & showing his true self again.

none is more surprised then Fluttershy, the two get to know each other again, then after a time of courtship (i think Fluttershy would appritiate that) Discord... I mean, Starswirl, purposes marriage.

Now note, I only just came up with this on the fly, it's just an idea... but you gotta admit, in the words of Rainbow Dash, "That would be totally AWESOME!"
;)

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Shawn Velloric 2014-12-17 03:02:28

I completely agree with your theory. But i have one thing to add. I remember twilight saying that starswirl was "the father of the amniomorphic spell" and "the most important conjurer of the pre-classical era" so there are to words that pop out conjurer and amniomorphic. We should all know what conjurer means but what of amniomorphic. If we spit it in two we have amnio and morphic. I cannot find out what amnio exactly means but it sounds close to animal and morphic or morph means to change so animal change. So what if when he was trying to make that last spell he accidentally morphed him self with other animals that he conjured up. Which also could have change his state of mind like it did with twilight's friends. Also In Friendship is Magic Issue #17, Princess Luna describes Star Swirl as having a similar personality to Pinkie pie. Which explains discord's personality.

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jem 56 2015-03-03 12:53:25

An amnio is the building blocks of the body. NOT an animal.  

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Southwest Snail 2015-03-03 19:39:46

@jem 56 Wouldn't that make sense though? Discord is just a mishmash of animal parts. Animal building blocks, if you will.

Also I'm sure amnio refers to something relating embrios or the like, though, like the amniotic sac.

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jem 56 2015-03-03 19:52:03

NO! An amnio is... two or three molecules that then make proteins.

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jem 56 2015-03-03 19:52:35

@Alma Martinez if you want to know more, GOOGLE IT!

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Southwest Snail 2015-03-03 19:53:06

@jem 56 Actually no the word you're looking for is amino, with the i coming before the n.

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jem 56 2015-03-04 21:59:22

@Alma Martinez oops

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jem 56 2015-03-04 22:05:09

@Alma Martinez amniomorphic means "shaped like a lamb"

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Wolvendeer 2015-03-21 22:22:31

@masterenclave The only definition I could find for amnio is as a medical prefix referring to the membrane that surrounds the embryo of birds, mammals, and reptiles (the amnion). This prefix is present in words such as amniotic fluid, which is the fluid an embryo develops in. Thus, the amniomorphic spell would most likely have something to do with transforming the embryo inside of the womb or egg (for reptiles). Thus, if we are to assume that Star Swirl has something to do with Discord, and that the amniomorphic spell has something to do with Discord, it would make the most sense that Star Swirl was the father of Discord, so to speak. Not necessarily in that he was the biological father of Discord, but rather that the spell he created in turn created Discord.

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randomhouse 2015-05-24 13:45:36

@Wolvendeer So you in general think that Star Swirl is Discord's dad...? [Plays a "That's Disturbing" clip.]

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Wolvendeer 2015-06-03 14:16:54

@princessbinas It's possible.  In the comics, Queen Chrissy just happened to be born from a twisted tree growing near where SSTB was performing experiments.  It doesn't really show how much time has passed or whether he had anything directly to do with it, but he does end up being closely associated with the birth of some of the antagonists.

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randomhouse 2015-06-03 16:47:02

I can see fanfic writers running away with that idea. Hopefully season five gives us more clues to who Discord is.

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Ghenesa Paulma 2015-01-30 15:10:52

Ummm... no.

I'm still sticking to the theory that Discord is totally NOT Star Swirl the Bearded.

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KiKi Plays 2015-05-04 01:14:52

I understand how stars swirl could possibly be discord it is because I am watch the season 4 finale it states that discord understands friendship now and you know in the end of season 3 it says that like star world didn't understand that what love about friendship and that's how I think it goes and he understands it in the end of season 4 that's my theory

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Jennifer Smolnicky 2015-06-29 02:11:17

So when star swirl the bearded didn't have friends he used different animals to swap instead of ponies because he had no friends . So that turns him into a chaos creature that is what makes discord. BOOM

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Jorja Alexander 2021-04-07 00:01:48

The princess of the sun only said that stars-wold the bearded didn’t know friendship like twilight did she didn’t say he didn’t have friends but you are still right I hop

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Sydney Schmalz 2014-07-27 16:06:34

if discort is star  swirled then wouldn't celestia know, and then use the reverse spell twilight found and use it on discort to make him a "great wizard" again I mean having star swirled featured or put into the show would eb sooper door amamzing

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nahoshura 2015-04-29 12:22:42

No, Discord appeared because he wanted to catch Twilight's attention

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Kumiko_ Ren 2015-11-19 13:58:38

didn't you notice the theme song of mlp starting at season 4 until now when the song said "sharing kidness" stop the music and you can see DISCORD!!!!😕 at fluttershy's cottage window at the side you can see him play the theme song of mlp season 1 2 or 3 and seasond 4 or 5 you"ll see the difference

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Anastasia Oprea 2015-12-24 16:54:14

If nopony knew that Discord is Star Swirl , it means that there were no clues at the museum! Discord isn't Star Swirl!!!

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The Olivia Show! 2015-04-10 16:50:59

Think about it, discord and star swirled the bearded, do they look alike that's the real thing you gotta think about

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angewomon143 Kirk 2014-06-05 21:56:10

That actually makes alot of sense

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Red Ranger3333 2015-10-27 07:10:18

Starswirl cant be discord because tirek knew discord and starswirl became friends with his bro so he cant be the same pony.

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whogivesadamn 2016-01-11 15:19:20

That sound's a little weak just because Discord showed up and got Twilight to take him away from the fair that prove's it?
What do you think she would have seen the a big sighn that says yes I discorde am Star swirl.

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oh no no army official 2017-06-13 05:57:57

Actually the second equistria girls say the sirens were banished 1000 years ago, when star swirl banished them.

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Megan Gagliardi 2018-08-09 01:17:40

Since starswirl and discord are never in the same episode that means discord is starswirl!

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Parvin Akhtar 2018-01-12 19:18:11

Star swirl was in limbo with the other legends

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marinus18 2015-08-15 08:21:42

I think the friendship test did matter but it was just a bonus.

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Jewlee Cambee 2017-10-14 04:25:50

That thought is now invalid now that we know star swirl was in limbo for 1000 years and discord was free suring that time

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Sara Ginorio 2017-06-09 22:50:45

I don`t think so I mean this is Discord we`re talking about. He knows Twilight is a huge fan of Starswirl The Bearded. Don`t you think he would say it or atleast allude to it just to confuse Twilight?

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Teddy Watts 2015-07-30 06:13:35

What if Discord was all ways a dracqoniquis and he grew up with a dracqoniquis mom and dad? There could have been a few families of the same kind and they lived in some far away land, but one day... say the dracqoniquis kind wanted more land and there was a war. It could have been the war that luna and celestias parents were killed in, along with all of the dracqoniqis kind? Discord could have ran away when the war started, because, since he was very young, he would have been terrifyed. Then, lets say a month later, when Discord had been living on cotton candy and chocolate milk, he decided to go look for his parents, not knowing they were dead. At the same time, Celestia and Luna werer searching for there perants, and the young princesses met Discord. They explained that they were looking for there perants, and quickly befriended him. They played togeter every day, eating Discords cotton candy and drinking chocolate milk, until the two sisters wanted to claim there royal duties, and help the other ponies. Of corse, Discord still wanted to play.
Weeks later, the sisters had claimed there royal duties, and never played with Discord. He found it very funny if he played pranks on the two princesses, or the royal gurds. Celestia and luna tried to stop him, as his pranks were getting more dangerous. It was then that Discord saw his true nature, the bringer of CHAOS. The sisters then had to use the elemants of harmony to turn him to stone.


What do u think of that theriory, Brony notion?

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Jana :3 2021-03-27 03:46:16

RIP Discord = Star Swirl

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grif lien 2016-01-03 22:56:41

starswirl is like the merlin of mlp

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alisa camarena 2015-12-05 20:05:05

ooook, listen up. here is my theory. discord is NOT starswirl the bearded, but rather his son? it sounds crazy but I can prove it. yes the timeline is correct but it proves that starswirl disappeared AFTER discord was turned to stone. so here's wat I think, starswirl used the spell he created to see wat would happen. surrounded by his items he has collected from the past, a snake tail, bat wing, pegusus wing, egale claw, his own DNA, a sharp yellow tooth, a lions paw, a random horn, a deer's antler, a zebras mane, and a deer leg, they mix together to. create discord. starswirl tries to take care of him but is quickly shunned by his son. his son causes chaos and is turned to stone. starswirl lives a while longer, but runs off to try and hide wat he had done. its only a theory but I also think that's y discord kept twi and cadence away from the fair. to keep his father a secret.😐

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Hifsa Khan 2018-07-08 19:56:32

By the time I'm writing this comment season eight has already come out, so discord isn't starswirl the other pillars and him they sacrificed themselves to banish the pony of shadows

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Lola Rolles 2017-06-07 16:09:52

You're theory cannot be. Star Wirl disappear a few years after Luna was bannished on the moon. And guess who where there when Discord has been turned into stone ? Luna...

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akaffe 2015-08-05 21:09:55

0:45 well guys, that's one spoiler (it's ok, I've watched it already, duh)

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Kewl Kiwis 2018-07-07 17:36:16

Too bad season 7 crushed this theory, trampled it to dust, and threw it in the garbage. Then showed it no mercy in the landfill.

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Camelia Telephones 2014-10-11 02:53:57

I mean like discord must have hid stars swirl the bearded's candle some where.
:T

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The Unknown Artist 2018-07-13 19:09:12

Actually starswirl was actually trapped in limbo, for over a thousand years. So discord is just discord. Cool theory though

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`` 2021-09-08 05:30:12

this was made 7 years ago

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Rebeca Guardado 2014-08-17 07:27:31

Wow ur vids really make u think about it I have noticed something's u said I ur vids but I never thought the little things I notice in the series could become a bug clue in the series

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Sara Delgado 2015-10-24 12:04:27

But star swirled the bearded died. Unless you weren't paying attention when they did the back story of Sombra, that Sombra was Star swirled the bearded student!!

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Bri Brottem 2018-01-01 15:15:47

No discord did not change to star swirled because he had vanished for a thousand years until the main six brought him and five other ponies and a villain.

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Salty Rick 2017-06-01 17:48:12

Hold on if twilight fixed the unfinished spell then why did you score wouldn't discord turn back into star swirl Bearden

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Marlen Labajo 2018-10-13 02:03:59

Well discord was faking on the day of the starswirl the bearded
sooo... no clue there
Maybe star swirl created Disord?

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Sagar More 2018-05-12 20:49:51

Love the idea

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Whisky 2014-10-07 23:45:18

Hey, brony notion you would make a great narrator.

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Rheagii Richardson 2014-12-28 20:30:38

the shadow of star swirl that might be one of thease 1.star swirl 2. Trixie 3.TWILIGHT
as you see in this video she is wearing a star swirl costume ... bells hat cloak magical hat but the yellow eyes don't match.. that means how is twilight star swirl?? and how does celestia know him does she spy on twilight ?? or does she follow her ?? but the thing I don't understand is how did twilight even find star swirl book in the beginning and nobody els has a clue about who he is?? wont that book been kept safe somwere or In a castle like the shadow?? would teilight go in there and magically find it because that is her element isent it ...

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Cutefeto 2015-10-17 11:36:06

Wait does that means that discord is star swirl .. Then did celestia know that ?! :/

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PFUDOR ` 2014-10-05 23:26:41

star swirl couldn't transform into discord because discord is dreconequus -that is a spieces which means there were more of them celestia was friends discord (being oblivious to the war their parents fought) before she met star swirled  

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Katsu_Devil 2018-08-26 05:44:56

You are wrong because of the end episode of season 7. So discord and Star Swirl both exist =/

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VakarianShepard 2015-01-02 05:09:39

But will the mane 6 find out about star swirled the bearded being discord for more than a thousand years in season 5

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One Simple Feather 2017-09-21 20:37:06

OMG!! After discord is fully reformed by fluttershy, he will go up in a light bubble like during twilights transformation into an alicorn, and then he will come back down and be starswirl and explain everything that happened!! Then he will address twilight as clover the clever, then there will be a backstory on that. Just watch the video 'twilight is clover the clever' for the last bit. I'M AN EVIL GENIUUUUUUUS!
#FluttercordAndDis-shy

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Laughable 2018-02-27 23:50:52

too bad this theory was wrong, due to season 7 finale, this whole theory was ripped to shreds

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Jazmin Trujillo 2017-10-04 01:34:23

I disagree because of Terek (yes I know my my spelling is not perfect sorry you're going to have to deal with it) saying that he was suprised discord was not stone.

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Lily Rose 2016-04-02 05:49:44

Doesn't anyone else get the hunch that discord is star swirl simce they look soooooo similar

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RutraNickers 2015-04-14 13:17:18

Nah, he just appeared there because twillight and Cadence were there, if they were in the Spa he would do the samething

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Maya Ganzy 2015-06-21 21:11:59

I've heard of a museum,but what is mus-a-em?

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Josie Kinghorn 2014-09-08 02:08:24

YOUR SO AMAZING WITH THE DW REFRENCES

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Zauth Arida 2015-10-22 22:36:11

I think your putting to much thinking into this. I don't think they would put this much into a kids show. So until we hear a confession in the show I'm not gonna believe this.

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Incredible Stegosaurus 2016-05-28 00:54:59

One thing... another reason why star swirl could be disord is because discord used to have no friends but why exactly would star swirl want to be best friends with fluttershy???

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Tsai Jung 2018-05-20 22:16:40

star swirl is not discord because star swirl was in limbo w/ the other pillars

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MEEP_ORDIE_shorts 2020-10-04 14:27:46

If your watching amazing world of gumball remember when carrys dad turnd evil by loneliness

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Aaron E 2015-12-06 21:16:58

you do notice if discord was star swirl then wouldn't he be in luv with fluttershy?
to me thats not a good mix

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Samantha Brash 2014-08-21 03:54:59

I know see something BIG Discord was in tears when flutter shy was his friend and heartbroken when she wasn't I bet it was because in his passed life as starswirl he didn't have friends so when he finally got some he was joyous

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Discord 2017-01-27 04:22:45

And no I didn't try to cover anything up I just wanted to be a dreadful draconequus. Now that I spend most of my time with fluttershy's or alone in my own little void (as you saw in make new friends but keep discord) wanted to test to see if my friends are not just there because they feel sorry for me me because other ponies consider a draconequus "weird" and yea just to mess with twilight

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Discord 2017-01-27 04:24:29

AH HAHAHAHA I should mess with applejack and turn into a zap apple 😂😂😂😂😂 OH THE LOOK ON HER FACE, IT SHOULD BE PRICELESS😂😂😂😂

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Wolf Titan Reading 2015-12-23 20:57:19

lol new theory male unicorns when they aced they become draconius while the females become alicorn

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Aisyah Bashirah 2016-05-01 15:27:49

+TheBronyNotion
In my opinion, star swirl the bearded is too discord because they both can open portal to another dimension
If u watch mlp eg rainbow rocks the history book said that the sirens (the 3 girls) banish by star swirl by a portal 2 another dimension
Just like in mlp fim make new friend but keep discord when discord open a portal 2 banish tree huger to another dimension

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Aisyah Bashirah 2016-05-01 15:28:51

+The Brony Notion

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MYRA ARORA 2019-03-27 18:11:18

Sorry I can't find the video where you said that sombra and crisalis ruled the crystal empire together I had to say that mistmane had a curled horn

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jason hartley 2014-01-30 20:07:30

Nice head cannon Ill support it. My question is what was in the building he stole around the 5 Min mark? 

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Dick Gumshoe 2016-07-10 08:19:21

Meh, I don't think Discord is Star Swirl...

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Jake Astl 2014-07-24 01:57:30

You never read the IDW comics, did you?

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Skizzlers 2017-11-22 00:32:31

Hur hur hur hur DEBUNKED thanks to season 7's finalie, we now know this is NOT true lol

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Camelia Telephones 2014-10-11 02:51:56

But the part where it pops up discord from the candle lit then where's the candle?

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pubblin 2015-11-21 18:38:23

I like how he says it as meuZAM

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Rachel Kairi 2017-02-17 00:05:00

It's mew-zee-am not moo-se-am

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sib_here 2016-09-14 20:25:29

no offense but I think it's pronounced muew-ze-um

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謎思特異 2016-05-18 19:48:23

Somehow at that episode discord also turn blue.........I wonder why " blue"

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Hazel Garcia 2014-08-29 15:44:37

Maybe starswirl is discord's dad

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Bruce Wang 2020-07-31 20:48:12

Then fast forward to season 7.DISCORD IS NOT STAR SWIRL!!!!!!!!!

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Vico The Gacha Wolf 2017-07-05 20:38:43

Id think star swirl is discord I think starswirl is sombra

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Heriberto Rodriguez 2015-05-09 14:41:11

I think discord is star swirl because look at discord and under his chin is a beard and also his tail.And the Brony Nation was correct.









PRUF!!!!!! :) <3

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Winter 2018-04-06 03:41:04

And everyone in the comments shall be SILENCED by the magical and theory disproving season 7

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Sammy The Umbreon 2018-09-07 14:53:00

Spoiler!







Starswirl isn't discord.

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justin w. 2015-03-13 04:48:02

What if twilight was star swirled the reader's reincarnation

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briansivley2001 2015-05-02 23:14:01

But that character was a male and obviously Twilight Sparkle is a female how would someone be reincarnated from a male to female? Because I definitely don't understand how.

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justin w. 2015-05-02 23:37:09

@briansivley2001 Reincarnation happens when a spirit or soul transmigrate from one body or another... it's sorta like avatar the last Airbender and korra

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briansivley2001 2015-05-02 23:41:32

@justin w. But I thought that with reincarnation if you were a male you will be a male when you get reincarnated.

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justin w. 2015-05-03 00:53:15

@briansivley2001 Nah, according to hinduism and buddism.. the spirit and soul transmigrate. .into a new body.. the spirit and soul don't know which body they will transmigrate into whether a boy or girl

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briansivley2001 2015-05-03 00:58:39

@justin w. Wow well that would explain why Twilight Sparkle is so powerful as she is but wouldn't she have his cutie mark? Or would it be anew life. I wouldn't be surprised though if they used it being it has been done before with the whole reincarnation stuff remember Sailor Moon.

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justin w. 2015-05-03 02:29:15

@briansivley2001 Yep I have heard of it, but I never knew they had reincarnation :) I have to look that up

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justin w. 2015-07-05 21:58:17

@***** Those are good explanations.... I have only heard of two 

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justin w. 2015-07-05 23:34:49

@***** Number 2 and 3

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justin w. 2015-07-06 06:00:19

@***** I heard of the first, but not 2 and 3

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justin w. 2015-07-06 19:47:54

@***** Indeed

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Lori 2015-12-06 09:21:33

So did star swirl turn into discord or something

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SSJ4 Goku 2016-12-26 04:28:02

there is proof in the show that discord is not Star Swirl the bearded. in season 6 finale, thorax said, "only changeling magic works in the changeling kingdom," so if discord was Star Swirl after using his spell, he would change back

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Nicole Din 2017-01-22 18:21:49 (edited 2017-01-22 18:23:11 )

Al Cipher and the season 4 finale where Celestia mentioned that she vanished Tirek to Tartarus. She and Luna seemed to be in power then and Starswirl was around as Scorpan's friend. So Tirek's defeat took place after the defeat of Discord and Starswirl was around then. Meaning that Discord can't be Starswirl the bearded. Plus Luna recognised Twilight to be in a costume of Starswirl meaning that she did know him, when they were in power which was after Discord's reign

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SSJ4 Goku 2017-01-22 18:33:49

@Minecraft Fan eyup, there is no argument that Brony Notion can give as to why discord is star swirl

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Nicole Din 2017-01-22 18:34:38

@Al Cipher well this was made before the seasons 4-6 finales so he was guessing. But with the new evidence we got, it's not possible

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SSJ4 Goku 2017-01-22 18:36:55

@Minecraft Fan eyup, but he still believes discord is star swirl

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Nicole Din 2017-01-22 18:37:59

@Al Cipher we kinda need to accept it because there is proof going towards it but they were in earlier seasons and the season 4 and season 6 finale disproved it

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SSJ4 Goku 2017-01-22 18:38:44

@Minecraft Fan eyup, but there is one thing him, you, and myself are neglecting

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Nicole Din 2017-01-22 18:38:57

@Al Cipher what?

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SSJ4 Goku 2017-01-22 18:39:49

@Minecraft Fan we're getting into theories on, by definition, a little kids' show. XD

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Nicole Din 2017-01-22 18:40:29

@Al Cipher that is actually very true. No matter how hard we can argue against it, MLP will always be a kids show

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SSJ4 Goku 2017-01-22 18:41:55

@Minecraft Fan no, I said "by definition," meaning it was intended for little kids, but Hasbro said they made season 6 "more appealing" to older viewers

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Nicole Din 2017-01-22 18:42:14

@Al Cipher that's true

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SSJ4 Goku 2017-01-22 18:42:52

@Minecraft Fan besides, if it's good, watch it. Like rainbow dash said "don't mess with success"

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Nicole Din 2017-01-22 18:43:12

@Al Cipher I do watch it

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SSJ4 Goku 2017-01-22 18:44:19

@Minecraft Fan I know, just making a point, it's a good show. I mean heck, I'm a varsity wrestler in highschool, and the strongest at my school, and I watch it, it's a good show XD

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Nicole Din 2017-01-22 18:44:44

@Al Cipher yeah it is a really good show

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SSJ4 Goku 2017-01-22 18:45:02

@Minecraft Fan eyup

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Nicole Din 2017-01-22 18:45:23

@Al Cipher yep

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SSJ4 Goku 2017-01-22 18:48:00

@Minecraft Fan well back to the star swirl theory; we say the 4 and 6 finales prove that he isn't because he didn't turn back. He could also say that since the princesses were turned into alicorns, they also would change back; but not necessarily, they changed by destiny, discord didn't, he doesn't even have a cutie mark

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Nicole Din 2017-01-22 18:52:05

@Al Cipher meaning that he can't be Starswirl, plus in the Season 4 finale when Discord was originally meant to capture Tirek, he turned into a normal pony not Starswirl

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SSJ4 Goku 2017-01-22 18:53:11

@Minecraft Fan eyup, I find that pony scene funny, Discord's oc XD

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Nicole Din 2017-01-22 18:55:59

@Al Cipher they said that on Bronies React

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SSJ4 Goku 2017-01-22 18:57:36

@Minecraft Fan oh, I don't watch bronies react, now that I think about it the only "brony" I watch is brony notion. I don't really consider myself a brony

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Nicole Din 2017-01-22 18:57:59

@Al Cipher I watch a lot of brownies, mainly musicians

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sweet surprise 2014-08-09 00:27:04

i really want to know what you use to make your videos 

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alexander lim 2016-06-08 05:00:35

what episode was that again? I forgot!

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ScribbleCate 2015-07-05 22:12:56

my thoughts exactly

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fanOmry 2017-03-27 19:41:12

... This is gonna be another Xena Religion.. Isn't it?

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Camelia Telephones 2014-10-11 02:50:50

Maybe he should make a video about princess luna and princess celestia because pay attention to there hair i mean its moving and cadence's and twilight's its not moving.Two sister's that have moving hair and two sister's in law do not have moving hair watch the solar sisters (celestia and luna) and look at the hair.THE HAIR! XD

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Hi 2018-03-26 21:53:25

You really WASTED all that time with this theory.

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Emily Self 2016-01-02 08:50:15

What is star swirls cutie mark or is he a blank blank

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Samantha Martin 2015-04-20 20:25:21

Why a unicorn's magic is usually the same color if not close to the same color as their eyes

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flying wolf 2015-06-18 23:05:39

I don't won't to disagree with you but think a little more because look at discord he has a horn and wings so wouldn't he be an alacorn
Maybe he would be an alacorn but as starswroll abirted idk but maybe this is true

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Anny 2018-03-18 11:16:53

DEBUNKED

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Sephelions 2015-07-24 01:36:27

Makes sense

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Evelyn Alvarez 2015-03-11 16:47:44

@The Brony Notion I have question on season 4 in twilight's kingdom why is it that discord aka starswirled give celestia flowers is it because he had a crush on her or what? Plz respond as soon as possible

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Evelyn Alvarez 2015-03-11 16:49:37

Sorry for my bad spelling auto correct but y did he give her flowers in season 4?

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Henry Goh 2015-03-31 05:59:37

@Evelyn Alvarez First of all, Discord is not aka Starswirl. Second of all, it was just an apologetic gesture, but instead of saying sorry he made it more meaningful by pulling flowers out of thin air. 

The reason why Discord could not be Starswirl is that they existed in congruence. Starswirl lived during the time of Celestia and Luna's rule, pre-Nightmare Moon. We can confirm this from the comics, and the fact that he befriended Scorpan, who then in turned warned the two sisters who were in power at the time. They only rose to power after the fall of discord, who was still on garden duty at the time. 

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Evelyn Alvarez 2015-03-31 12:32:30

Oh ok that makes more sense thank you :)

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omarian hussain 2015-02-15 18:16:54

is chrysalis an alicorn

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Jennifer Maher 2015-06-07 20:46:29

WAIT I JUST RELISTED IF DISCORD IS STAR SWIRL FLUTTER SHY IS FREINDS WITH STAR SWIRL THE BEARDED 
MIND BLOWN

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Pasha Z Anderson 2014-12-24 01:38:35

why don't u just ask the writers if D is SStB

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Paul Greenberry 2014-10-30 00:30:57

omg what's next celestia is a bunny?

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lover77 heart 2016-10-09 20:47:23

so IF discort was starsworld the bireded how did he banish the dazzilings becuse IF he is wouldn't the dazziling would be old and the magic is new in the other world not thying to be mean but,it makes no sense

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Tianna Tharkurdeene 2021-02-06 03:04:11

I really like sawtooth waves videos

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Mr. Chicken 2015-05-02 09:19:29

omg the way you say museum is whack (i kinda like it)   >O<

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Michael Manoim 2015-05-02 16:39:59

I like your videos but there are a lot of flash pictures.

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jrc2006 2017-05-20 17:34:24

What if Starswirl was Trixie's grandfather

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Agnes 2020-02-23 14:57:23

It'd probably go further back than just Trixie's parent's parent...

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null 2017-03-03 02:35:56

0:45 River Song In Da House Bruh

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CasualDev 2014-08-01 15:53:49

but .. why does discord wanna keep such a secret? :/ 

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Solomon Frogge 2014-08-12 18:09:56

Because then his old self would lose all his fame... or maybe life as starswirl was terrible and he doesn't want to face the truth... either one of those or he doesn't like to remember that he was intelligent.

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CasualDev 2014-08-12 19:39:42

@Bronya Stagg yeah or he doest completely remember his old self .. i mean when the spel changed the mane 5's destiny and cutiemark the didnt remember their old selfs .. what if the same happend to discord?

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Solomon Frogge 2014-08-13 11:37:01

I dunno. Maybe as he was the creator and had no friends, maybe the results were different.

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CasualDev 2014-08-30 14:49:35

yeah 

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David Hand 2015-03-13 16:06:48

you pronounced museum wrong it is pronounced meoo see um you said moo sam

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Enchanting Dream 2015-06-22 00:57:17

Muzem.Love it.

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EchoDoesArt 2016-06-03 19:22:28

Star world or what ever his name is DISCORD
here star has magic has powerful magic and discord had magical magic SO add that to what u said MAGIC

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Missy May 2015-05-15 00:08:20

Discord and starswhirl have white beards

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Silvana Alvarez 2016-08-16 00:59:39

What if starword now learn friend things and is descore

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StillKickin 2015-11-05 23:06:33

DOCTOR WHO AGAIN!!!!

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Content corrupted 2015-01-14 21:18:45

TV, Y U NO GET THE HUB?!

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Rachael Ross 2014-10-01 20:15:55

What ep 0:46?

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Allannon500 2014-06-03 15:47:51

@The Brony Notion I keep trying to find the video you made after this video but I can't find it. What was the name of the video after this one so I can see how you end it?

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Sawtooth Waves 2014-06-03 20:29:30

Who is the Shadow Pony? It wasn't exactly what I thought it would be, it's still an interesting idea! /)

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Allannon500 2014-06-03 20:36:29

@The Brony Notion
ah ok I already watched that video, and yes it's an interesting idea.

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FroggieTheArsonist 2018-06-21 17:33:07

Lololollol he thought that was true wach season 7

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Pixel Sky: First Album 2018-11-24 16:02:54

Wait what if discord was a normal dragon hours but he was asistent to star swirl but when he did the unfinished spell he and discord fused but the burst of magic made discord what he is today btw ther memory got all messed up so what he evil

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CrystalMuffyn 2019-11-15 15:56:41

Wait what if Discord was a normal dragon, but he was Starswirl's assistant but when he didn't finish the spell he and Discord fused, but the burst of magic made Discord what he is today. By the way their memory got all messed up so Discord turned evil.

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Daleksaresupreme1 2017-01-12 16:11:07

You pronounce museum weirdly

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Jose Mendez 2018-01-30 02:42:11

Too bad this got debunked

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Makayla Aaron 2016-06-16 23:28:52

what about discorts parts.

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Artemis Edison 2014-07-20 07:36:40

RIVER SONG!

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Soul B 2015-02-09 05:38:44

This theory mite be said in season 5

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Forrukh Ahmed 2015-11-25 00:19:00

That is a small episoed.

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Mrscentraleuropean 2014-10-13 20:01:01

Does discord have rainbow dash wing

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Heriberto Rodriguez 2015-05-09 14:46:58

I'm dumb like my firends call me they call me little dumb girl (starts crying)WAAAAAAAAAAAAA...!!!!!!!!!!!! >~<,

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Autum Breeze 2015-10-02 04:17:27

huh. didn't think of that til now

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Sassy Inkist 2015-05-06 18:57:42

Why does your oc have a female muzzle

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Charlotte Shewchuk 2014-06-06 14:38:01

You are pronouncing museum, musuam

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Taylor Cramer 2014-07-06 01:17:32

some people pronounce things differently depending on where they live, i pronounce pecan as peCAN emphasizing the A while others don't. That's just how people are and that makes the english language so diverse.

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Stephanie Punton 2014-08-15 17:41:56

It's more like musam though, I don't really see how accent can alter it like that.

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Kayleigh 2021-11-01 16:23:18

❤️

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Melanie Bisnath 2016-06-24 14:27:13

💗💓💘

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Lisha Hernandez 2014-05-26 10:28:49

I do think that Discord is StarSwirl the bearded. Because on Season 4 Three's a crowd Discord is sick the day the StarSwirl the bearded exhibit is open. Coincidence? No.

I wonder how StarSwirl turned to Discord. Here's my theory(s). StarSwirl was trying a spell that changes your form like Changelings. But it backfired causing him to not turn into the pony he desired, but his opposite self. Turning him into Discord.

Another theory is that StarSwirl had the alicorn amulet and used spells he couldn't handle. Then one night he tried to overrule Celestia and Luna, but they used a spell to alter the target. Himself. The spell changed as well turning him to Discord.

"From one to another, another to one, a mark of ones destiny, singled out alone fulfilled." This is another theory. StarSwirl performed that spell. But he didn't have any pony to cast the spell on. So it altered his form turning him to Discord.

Those are my theorys.

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Sawtooth Waves 2014-05-28 20:12:20

I actually made a video with my own theory! (it's similar to your last one) Why Discord IS TOO Star Swirl the Bearded :D

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Lisha Hernandez 2014-06-04 17:49:08

Oh. Cool!

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Lisha Hernandez 2014-06-04 17:57:44

Want to be friends?

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Sawtooth Waves 2014-06-12 20:06:30

Absolutely!

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Lisha Hernandez 2014-06-13 17:13:25

I wonder if Discord was born or created out of chaos or was just there with no backstory.

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Sarrel Macintosh 2014-08-13 07:38:49

Wow! I never thought about that

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Kitty Friend 2014-08-14 00:53:19

Well, Cadence and Twilight were hanging out in THAT day, Twilight decided to go there cause it was their only chance. But Discord wanted to wreck it.

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Her Loyal Highness, Princess Rainbow Dash 2015-01-28 23:01:38

@The Brony Notion That video still doesn't make your theory make sense. I watched it. :(

~Dash~

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Millie Riddell 2015-09-01 22:01:35

It could not only change the way he looks but also the way he thinks and acts.

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Genevieve Raymond 2015-09-23 23:31:47

It is a fact the end.

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jewel jammer 2015-10-03 08:17:28

read the comments in last episode, ty if u do :)

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animo358 2016-05-14 07:01:54

+Kitty Friend theres also the idea that 1. A sprit shouldn't be able to get sick and 2. a spirit that can bend reality shouldn't be able to get the common cold unless he wanted to.

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HP Fan 2018-07-16 12:14:31

Sorry... He's not. I wish he was though...

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Ruby_Queens 2018-08-02 11:26:11

Lisha Hernandez this is a lot of dedication

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Carl Hertz Heather Eisele 2018-08-26 22:27:48

Lisha Hernandez q

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IxwiCraft 2015-12-20 23:45:16

DUH, of course Discord is Starswirl. I mean they kinda lookalike. Discord got a beard and hairy eyebrows just like Starswirl. Soooooo?

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shaymin cutie 2016-02-21 01:25:26

Well we haven't seen any actual pictures of star swirl, that fan art is only guessing that that is what he looks like

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IxwiCraft 2016-02-21 09:29:33

hmm, when you put it like that.... What if star swirl was a girl? star swirl kinda sounds like a girls name?

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Buisgast123 2016-02-21 18:53:04

+shaymin cutie actually we do know kind of what star swirl looked like, remember twily's costume from 'Luna eclipsed' ? :)

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• Pånda_Čät • 2016-06-04 18:33:26

And discord is gray just like star swirl is! And they kinda have the same eye color👀

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pcb4363 2018-05-11 18:45:44

Isource season 8 already and I saw in season 7 that Star Swirl the bearded was freed from the portal to help the Mane 6 with a pony of Shadows and he appears and Discord is also there so no they're not the same person

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human number zero 2018-07-07 04:26:07

IxwiCraft star swirl appears in season 7 a normal pony

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Lisa Drew 2016-08-01 06:45:19

CELL! ?

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Faelinae 2016-09-06 22:18:15

I got the add for the new movie 0,0

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VernBFF 2016-09-11 22:01:48

Do your old ting back bye The challengeling.

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Lindsey Hancock 2014-09-24 21:15:33

Well that is a good reson BUT im still the Discord pesident so ya and Discord dos have the same beard but well u do have good resons still that dos not say why he wuld want to be freinds with the WIMPY Fluttershy?!

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Kallie Bell 2017-03-11 21:44:54

its museum not musam

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ForeverDM 2015-08-19 03:22:25

i realized your pony is female

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CharPonyVA 2015-11-07 00:19:23

+robert clark No it's a guy with a female muzzle.

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I listen to Girl in red and mother mother 2016-06-21 19:39:22

Flutter shy and discord fisshy

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Anne Do 2017-08-09 07:30:23

That was short

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Jasmin Lewcock 2018-01-26 07:46:39

It's not musam it's museam

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Vanessa The Dork 2014-10-19 20:52:12

OMG JUST STOP WITH THE THEORY ABOUT DISCORD BEING STAR SWIRL! JESUS CHRIST

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Blue fox 2015-05-13 22:47:44

i think that you are reading way too much into a show. i mean come on it is only a show!!!

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Missed the Band Wagon 2015-05-25 04:51:50

@IamFluffyPony But that's such a boring way to look at things I think. I mean sure this doesn't matter in the long run, but I have fun talking about theories. I dunno, I don't even care if this theory isn't right, but I will be able to say I had fun with it and it got some gears in my head turning. Have a great day. =)

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Blue fox 2015-05-27 02:02:53

@Missed the Band Wagon
there isn't anything wrong with that i just don't agree with all of it

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KATHY KIEFF 2015-03-13 19:16:56

No he was a moser wine he wust yung

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wolf girl907 2016-08-20 11:00:43

did he say musam?

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Bonnie gang 2017-01-06 04:00:32

aphmue fan yes happy new year i know that is not today but lol

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Wolf Girl 2018-06-25 06:33:56

Lol yes like 5 times

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39 sharkgirl 2018-11-24 03:16:55

Discord is not starsworld because in season 7 they show starsworld

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CrystalMuffyn 2019-11-15 15:56:58

Lol STARSWORLD?

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Andrei Richmond Salvaleon 2018-06-07 00:54:17

HAII SEASON 7 FINALE!

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KiKi Plays 2015-05-04 01:15:56

Sorry I was using speaker phone to put in my last comment so that's why some of the words are messed up :-(

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lusielisa_18 2014-08-08 18:41:13

Wrooooooooooong

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Jdjvfsb Noctvkl 2016-06-17 15:40:11

lol

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I listen to Girl in red and mother mother 2016-06-21 19:39:43

Is the name of there child

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Ruby_Queens 2018-08-02 11:30:00

On Netflix MLP Season 7, in Shadow Play I and II. The Mane Six, Sunburst, and Starlight find out that Starswirl and 5 other important ponies were gone in limbo in order to defeat "Stygian"

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Robyn Guthrie 2020-12-07 05:58:35 (edited 2020-12-07 05:59:35 )

I’m not trying to sound rude, buuuut, you’re wrong. I know you won’t let go of it though, six years later and you still haven’t let go of it, but it’s been proven wrong

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jiffycook 2021-01-15 21:46:13

This was made before that episode.

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Lumina Cake 2018-02-19 21:53:29

Wait a minute shining armor is twiliths brother and if prinses kadanse is twiliths sister that means she is shining armors sister to and that mean he maried with his sister!?!?!?!!???l😱😱😱😲😱😲😱😲😱😲😲😲😲😲😟😵😱😵😲😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😵😲

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Sarrel Macintosh 2014-08-12 11:18:36

Meapenster is also me on transformice

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Rebecca Thomson 2017-12-16 05:34:27

But no just no

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Three vultures in a trench coat 2018-01-08 03:52:01

Ya seson 7 proves you soooooo rong

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lusielisa_18 2014-08-08 18:42:16

DISCORD is NOT star swirl the beared

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Sarrel Macintosh 2014-08-13 07:39:48

Shut the fuck up

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Rachel Black 2014-09-08 03:30:33

-Both have beards
-Both have yellow magic thingies
-Both have redish yellowish eyes
-Both have same expressions
-Celestia tells Twilight, (in Magical Mystery Cure) "Because Starswirl the Bearded didn't understand friendship like you do." Sound like someone else we know?

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Stacey Meinert-Galloway 2014-10-19 19:35:00

I think it is right.

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Rachel Black 2014-10-19 19:47:39

who o.o

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Parvin Akhtar 2018-01-12 19:17:02

Check shadow play

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i love puppies yay 2020-05-15 09:52:14

Ana oop

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Kenechukwu Egbuche 2021-03-18 18:14:45

Hey sawtooth Waves

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Bagus Adhi 2018-08-12 02:06:58

Hey yo I'm from the future on season 8

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Vanilla Shine 2014-08-08 03:10:35

Ur thinking to hard about this -.-

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Sarrel Macintosh 2014-08-13 07:34:36

No were not!

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Marco Sanchez 2014-06-02 22:01:54

What

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Scarlet TheDoge 2016-05-11 17:13:29

Lol 153,153 views

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Colorful Chameleon 2017-04-17 13:07:17

No

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Sarrel Macintosh 2014-08-12 11:17:09

Hello everypony my name is moonfrost or sarral Macintosh.I am a peagasus so u no scew with me okay? I'm new just made an account. So hi

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Mousey's Mini Moves 2016-12-29 08:49:54

if this is true, do you think that star swirl married flutter shy witch is why discord only likes her (Most the time) and had a child named screwball then he termed into discord and Screwball became older and moved out and now flutter shy never sees her but discord saw her once and told her who he was

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Vendinglove 2018-01-20 23:55:14

Hi

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Sahara AJ 2018-02-10 06:02:18

Nope

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