@Backstauber Damn I understand being frustrated about not having a backstory for Cadence, but hating on her is too much. She could use more development, but she is a delightful pony.
This explains why her full name "mi amore cadenza" translates to "I love cadence". Maybe after the super strong spell was broken, the only "name" she remembered having was the one thing the stallion kept repeating. That's why her name is Cadence and not "Cadence of the heart and soul" or something.
7 a lepší a lepší a lepší a lepší 🍋🍌🐈⬛🦒w a lepší a levnější než v roce se mi zdá se že se zeptat zda je to v pohodě ale i v pohodě ale i v pohodě ale i v pohodě ale i v pohodě ale i na tom případě je 🐯🤨
I'm not trying to defend Cadance's actions, but it would make sense that her love spell created a sense of "puppy love" in the couple instead of something more profound-- Cadance is a teenager at this time, and having been one, teenagers tend to have a warped perception of love. At that time, love is hormonal, senseless, and distracting. I can't count the times I neglected to tell my partners what was wrong in the relationships when I was younger, because I was simply too distracted by the few good moments to stop and think about the mountain of bad. Cadance hasn't done anything like that in the present because she's an adult, and probably has had time to mature her understanding of love beyond that "puppy love" we see her force on the arguing couple.
Cant be cus the birth from an alicorn was never a thing until Flurry Heart came along- So Cadence was not the daughter of the Alicorn in the book, pretty sure its Cadence herself-
@LZH1703 i dont think she was born alicorn, flurry heart was the first known alicorn that was born an alicorn. I think Cadance was born a pegasus (if this theory is true and she is the daughter of the two), and then she earned her horn from Celestia
This makes sense considering she was taken in when she was younger so this could be why, her parents were too overcome with love to look after her. Maybe this is why she became an alicorn, she was already a princess so maybe Celestia didn't seek her out because she did something like Twilight did (create new magic) but maybe she did it because she knew of her royal blood. Or maybe she took her in then she made new magic, maybe she took her parents spell and recreated it to be a love potion to help solve issues between couples.
The real question is was the prince a Pegasus? If so then it can be possible. As her past story says that she was an abandoned baby Pegasus. Maybe they left her in fear that if people knows who she is she'll be in danger
Ooh, love this. Like the potion was genetically passed down in her genes? Even if she DID start as a pegasus, that magic could've laid dormant (like many inactive "sleeper" genes) until getting a horn triggered it.
@Christnappa4 Voldemort was conceived via rape with the use of Amortentia and thus was unable to love. If Cadence was conceived in a similar way, assuming love potions/poisons work the same way in this universe, no way she'd be the Princess of Love. She wouldn't be able to know love. If love potions/poisons don't work the same way in this universe, well that's just silly.
Same but what pony was her mom then? Celestial never mentioned another alicorn princess and about everyone saying no because flurry was the first alicorn ever to be born an alicorn ..... WHO IS SAYING CADENCE WAS A ALICORN WHEN SHE WAS BORN ... no one ..... no ofende also i dont mean to ofend anyone :)
@Bianca torres gonzalez I don't think Cadance was an alicorn when born, but a pegasus. She got her wings when she realized the meaning of true love. Now about her mom... IDK. The alicorn with the love poison is sometimes portrayed as a unicorn so...
@SilverLuna actually she is a alicorn :^ her wings are kinda in the corner of the image but your right i think cadence got her wings couse she saved a village just a though :)
@Bianca torres gonzalez I know that she is an alicorn. I thought like sometime during the episode, the wings in the book disappeared. But yeah, she is an alicorn.
omg your so right but ... I dont think they ware an actual cupel they ware in a spell so im not saying i have any other idea im just saying you may wanna think more about it
If Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)
@Rosa Cat actually in canon cadence was a Pegasus before she became an alicorn so you frogot that And it may be in a book,but atleast it’s more canon then other theories we have
@Tangle Hamain Celastia could give her wing aflter something exeptionnal she did (maybe save her parents form the spell and teach them what is love or something like that)
I figured this makes more sense too. Because that would explain why she did not need to make a potion 🧪, and she is extremely young (like a teenager) as “Twilights foul sitter”.
... P. S. Then I forgot that “the birth of alicorns was a mystery even to Celesta & Luna, but that might have been a white lie diversion too not traumatize the moment FlurryHearts birth to Cadence & company, and ruin the unique/uncanny celebration... especially of the Royal Crystaling 👑 which I almost forgot about!
Maybe she wasn’t their daughter, but she helped break the spell. I’m not saying her being their daughter is wrong or bad, but I think it’s more likely that she helped break the spell, rather than be a product of it.
@Tangle Hamain celestia was born alicorn. so I was thinking that they have seen birth of alicorns before but back when they lived outside of equastria and it was the first time they saw the birth of an alicorn in equastria since they probably had to become alicorns like twighlight and cadence
But that seems to contradict the fact that an Alicorn birth is "something Equestria has never seen" - your theory would suggest that Cadence could possibly be the first Alicorn birth.
Possibly she is the daughter and because the parents were separated she stayed with her father, because of this she was raised under 'love.' And maybe since this story was a long time ago, her father must've died and Caydence is using the baby sitting services as a way of spreading the spell her father had used on her mother? But it is just a theory of mine.
Totally agree. There's a reason pregnant mothers aren't supposed to drink alcohol, smoke, use certain medications or use recreational substances. Because the chemicals will have an effect on the baby. The princess could have got pregnant with Cadence while under the influence and if Cadence was also born an alicorn like Flurry that still wouldn't contradict Celestia saying alicorns weren't born in Equestria. The kingdom from the story could have been outside Equestria's borders.
@LZH1703 its wrong she became an alicorrn like twilight after deafting prisimia and she became a royal niece of celestia and she got her cutie mark as the crystal heart ❤ and she knew that she'll rule one fay
I don’t think that proves she was a unicorn to start with, she might’ve just said that because she hadn’t practiced flying in a while. In Sawtooths other video where he is solving Ali pens, he says that in order to become an alicorn you most likely have to have energy from all three pony kinds. So it is possible that Cadance was a Pegasus to start with, and therefore became an alicorn (got her horn) because Princess Celestia gave her magic from all three pony kinda. No hate here, just expressing my my thoughts!
Autocorrect, sorry, where it says “Ali pens”, I meant to say “Alicorns”. My bad!! Also, the theory of Cadance being born a Pegasus is not confirmed, so this is just a thought.
Cadance is now an alicorn but like I said, might have been born a Pegasus. Just like the theory that she is the daughter of the two, it is a theory and may not be real.
but she was jut a- ohhhhhhhhh makes sense wait we dont really- ok the father..ye but why did they just leave her until she was found? she was a princess kind of..
Maybe but remember the prince and the princes splite up or he found someone else and the potion already absorbed into her dna but that what i think tho
But then why would celestia and luna never have seen an baby born an alicorn, wouldn't when they met cadence have asked and she would have said she was born that way?
@Seven colour dreams No,the prince was an earth pony,but it's still possible considering the cake twins were both unicorn and pegasus,but their parents were earth ponies.
i also think that they were so distracted by their love for eachother, they never had time to love cadence. so basically celestia had to raise cadence??? this is just a theory-
@Tangle Hamain But Celestia and Luna had to have been naturally born alicorns. I mean, that would make sense why their roles are so important, plus the fact that they were the first princesses. Cadence and Twilight are not naturally born alicorns, and basing on how Twilight became a princess, wouldn't Cadence have to go through the same process?
(Opinion ) maybe twilight's parents is hiding that shining armor is a earth pony and he had feelings or cadence and told his parents and He made a love potion and then out of control princess Celestia came and separated them until they found real love thay they turned shining armor in to a unicorn
@Rosa Cat im not so sure with "you must be a unicorn to turn into an alicorn" like in MLP: The New Generation; Sunny turned into an alicorn even though she was an earth pony. So that could lead to the conclusion that the way to be an alicorn is not by if your and alicorn or not; but if you earn the magic of all 3 pony colonies from doing a major action in an event.
Yes you are right I mean a love potion can also be resuluted as a foal and that foal is 100% Cadence. I mean her father created the love potion and she knows the love spell might be a genetic ability from father to daughter.
@Rosa Cat in the new generation we learn you dont have to be
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turnip head :)2021-05-01 20:28:54 (edited 2021-05-01 20:32:10 )
I think I connected the dots, so thanks for the help with this! I think the alicorn was Cadence's mother, they had Cadence, and due to the love poison, I think that's why Cadence can do it to other ponies. She gained some of the love poison genes or whatever you should call it, then now she can use it to make other ponies act like they just drank the potion a little. Also, the kingdom they talk about could very well be the Crystal Empire! It fell because the two royals were distracted when King Sombra bowed to darkness, with the events of Sawtooth's theory of Sombra's past coming before. But what does everyone think? How could this fit into the lore of My Little Pony?
In comics the canon timeline that was put forth is that the queen of the crystal empire is a distant relative of Cadence and the queen was "killed" (tho technically not actually dead as Hasbro has a no death rule for mlp) and then Sombra took over. so if you accept the comics as canon, then no that queen is not the same character as the princess from the hearts and hooves story.
I have some ideas. Personally,I believe that maybe the spell used on the princess,went on for so long it had grown attached to her. When Celestial broke the spell,the magic of it stuck with Cadence,and it became her element. As Cadence started recovering from the years she spent trapped in her spell,she found comfort in helping others with love. She was young,and didn't understand that her spell was not helping,because that was all she knew. Slowly,she grew as a person and found the meaning behind healthy and true love. Hearts and hooves day was created as a celebration of the day she was freed!
@cess_14 Even though the Pony in the book had been depicted as an Alicorn it doesn’t necessarily mean that cadence would have been born one as previously said when flurry heart was born celestial and Luna had never seen anything like that before and keep in mind that the male was an earth pony.
Recovering from abusive and codependent relationships is a very real struggle. But it teaches you how to love in a healthier way by setting boundaries and communicating your needs instead of relying on fairy tale type love. Honestly, a pony that had been through that process very much deserves to be the princess of love!
@Junko Enoshima well she doesn’t very look very old, only somewhat 15 years ago she was just regular sized, so I don’t think she’s old since Twilight didn’t take like 100 years to grow and have her hair all moving
@Junko Enoshima cadence babysat twilight and she was a pegasus in the flashback so chances are cadence is not even close to being as old as celestia and luna
I have the answer to that. In the book that was mentioned at the beginning of the video it's explained. Cadence lived in a small town that was being terrorized by a witch. Cadence ended up stealing a crystal heart necklace from her and discovered that the necklace was what was making the witch evil, Cadence helped the witch and then found herself in the same place that Twilight was in when she got her wings. Cadence got her horn and cutie mark at the same time and then went to live with Celestia
I think she earned her cutie mark by spreading love around her. She didn't know specifically that she was going to rule a long lost kingdom, but she knew she was going to have some kind of destiny. She knew her destiny was something to with love and when she found out that the Crystal Empire needed love to protect itself she knew thats where she needed to be. SHe could protect the Empire with the love she spreads.
Maybe cadence, because of her destiny, was already gifted a cutie mark. Cadence was seemingly born with overwhelming love and kindness within her, maybe just bc the empire was still disappeared, her destiny couldn't be completed yet, but she still completed much of it as the princess of love.
Cutie marks don't necessarily represent the present. Perhaps the connection to the crystal empire simply wasn't recognized as it didn't exist, and everyone thought her cutie mark just meant love because of the heart shape. It's possible that her cutie mark knew that part of her destiny before she did.
As other people have said, cutie marks don't always represent the present. It represents the pony's destiny. For example if we look at Twilights cutie mark it's the symbol for the element of magic with 5 small stars surrounding it representing the friends she would make in ponyville and their elements. Ofc at first she thought it just represented her talent for magic but Celestia noticed the connection to the elements of friendship Cadence most likely did something in the name of love when she got her cutie mark. And ofc it represents her future rule of the crystal empire as well
It could represent the love spell she is gifted in and how she represents love between ponies as well as her future role as the princess of the Crystal Empire. Similar to how Twilight’s represents both her strong magic ability along with her future connection to the elements of harmony.
It's a heart so she probably got it while spreading love It just had a double signification since it was made of crystal, but she learnt the other signification only later on
You are wrong there, because Twilight,Celastia and probably Luna too, oh and also Cadance might be from the cristal empire, that's why the crystal ponies accepted her so easily so there you have it.
the love spell Cadance put on the couple, i think she made them realize that a pedicure isn't important and spending time and help financially with their spouse is much more important and helped them make a better decision
A theory I personally like is that Twilight was groomed from the very beginning to be next in line for the throne, Celesta saw her potential, and knew she would be the next princess, so to prepare her she made cadence her foulsitter so she can get used to being around royalty.
it might make sense cause i feel like cadence wasnt surprised by flurry heart being born an alicorn so maybe she was also born as an alicorn that is if we go with that theory
If Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)
@Pastel KittyYT actually i don't think cadence was born as a alicorn, don't you remember the episode when flurry heart was born they said it was the first time a baby was born as an alicorn.
@Natalia Princess Amore is in The Comics and Comics aren’t 100% Canon. But if Cadence’s parents were normal ponies Cadence most likely outlived them. They weren’t in The Canterlot Wedding. And Cadence must have been living for a while since in The Season 4 Finale Tirek knew Cadence that’s why Cadence and The Royal Sisters gave their Magic to Twilight. And Tirek was gone for a Thousand Years so Cadence is probably over A Thousand Years Old.
@Narwulf we don't have proof about that. think about this- Celestia and Luna said that they had never seen the BIRTH of an alicorn before. This still opens a possibility that they HAD seen a natural alicorn before, but not it's BIRTH. And this natural alicorn was Cadence. It actually connects quite well with the theory sawtooth has put in this video.
You are maybe right like the princess can be cadence 's grand mother and the potion that was given to her grandmother never ended in real and the effect of the love potion was moving thought heditatory and that is why it can be true that flurry hart also have the same magic
@Narwulf Maybe cadence was born in a unknown land or maybe even was a channeling that Somone was a good one And she made Celestia think she is a Pegasus
I thought they were her parents or grandparents because that would explain how she became a alicorn and how her daughter was born one, maybe she was born a alicorn and it's genetics that made her daughter born one.
Perhaps Viola but celestia never saw a alicorn baby so I doubt it but she could have been born not a alicorn but if she had became an alicorn then why? Why would celestia give her the ability to be a alicorn and if cadence was born a alicorn wouldn’t celestia saw her as a small foul
But I don't actually think so or else you realize that when she was a babysitter she wasn't a princess so that's why I don't think that her parents or any relative
@Natalia Maybe Celestia & Luna didn’t want The Main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn. With the shock of Flurry Heart it might have not been the right time and place to sat that Cadence was born as an Alicorn.
@Narwulf Well in some cases, genes can skip a generation. Cadence could’ve been born a pegasus to an alicorn and (I assume) an earth pony. It’s not that far a stretch. Just look at the Cake family
@Natalia actually, princess amore is princess cadance's, like, great-great-great-great-great-grandmother but they ARE distantly related, and also, im pretty sure princess amore is an alicorn, at least in the wiki i think
@Pastel KittyYT In season 6 when Twilight and her friends found out that Flurry Heart was born as an alicorn ,Celestia had said that no pony had ever been born as an alicorn
@Miniş Dünyası nope this is all wrong the mlp creators just made characters with no backstory they just made them and don't expect people to ask so may questions lol
@Nataliaher backstory is in the book her parents are unknown she was brought up in a earth pony village then a evil thing came wanted steal love she blah blah defeated teleported somewhere= alicorn stay with celestia ya ya ya the yup
That’s the one that makes more sense to me because if it’s her parents it explains why her name was literally Love, and would mean she grew up watching an unhealthy marriage based on magic and taking people’s choice away. Which is why true love is what she seeks so desperately with her magic, and why Celestia took her under her wing, to let her see as many families as possible, and avoid her arguing parents. Which explains why as a teenager she’s just focused on making the fighting stop, not fixing the issue. It would be a wonderful basis for WHY her relationship with Shining Armor is so strong, especially because she would have seen Twilight’s parents and their theoretically healthy marriage - teaching her to finally find a love based on equals and choice, and how that pure love led to Flurry Heart, an Alicorn we’ve never seen before - symbolic of breaking the cycle of unhealthy relationships. (Cuz let’s be real, royalty doesn’t tend to lead to the happiest of marriages - looking at you Henry the 8th.)
i’ve always thought that cadence became an alicorn because she created that love spell and was the only one to know how to cast it (as far as we know), similar to how twilight finished starswirl’s spell. Never thought about the sketchy part, but it may be because she was still very young in that flashback scene, thus immature and inexperienced in love. i imagine she controls the effect of the spell and (mis)judged that the puppy eyes was the best way to deal with the issue.
Omg this makes so much sense because if this did happen and “cadences kingdom fell” it could have fallen because king sombra took over, and when cadences came back it was too late because celestia had already banished king sombra but he took the kingdom with it. So when celestia freed cadences she felt terrible so never did those spells again.
Do you think its possible that cadence knows an even longer lasting love spell, and cast it on shining armor when she used to have that crutch. eventually shining armor thought the love was real and their whole reletionship stated on or might even be a spell?
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Done With shit2021-11-11 05:11:34 (edited 2021-11-11 05:43:48 )
As much as I’d LOVE this theory, I have to say we need to take in Chrysalis into account aswell. Chrysalis’s form is in the form of an alicorn and based off of both Celestia’s and Luna’s reactions in the wedding episode we can confirm she has been alive for a long time, and that Celestia knows Chrysalis. Its uncertain that if luna knows Chrysalis, but we do know that Celestia does. I’d also like to bring in the fact of how tall Chrysalis is. As we know when you are an alicorn you grow if you have been alive for a very long time. We ALSO know that Chrysalis feeds on love and is the queen of the changelings. What if Chrysalis was the pony in the story, and in order to break free she had to result to who she is now? Or maybe it is the effects of the potion that continues to change her form and instead of being in love with someone she has to feed on it because the other pony is gone? I think Chrysalis being the pony of the story/ maybe being the past queen would make a lot of sense of her being apart of the equation aswell. Putting Cadence into the spotlight does makes sense, but what about Chrysalis? There are many things that we have to question. Id also like to bring in the my little pony comic. Supposedly there was a “reverse” comic, and Chrysalis was in it, and she looked to be the queen. There is a specific theory I am also referring to its called, “Who is the lost crystal princess”, by Conspirapon3.
Edit: So as im rewatching the royal wedding episode(where cadence is introduced) I had realized something. Cadences full name is Princess Mi Amore Cadenza. Mi amor means “my love” in spanish. Lets assume mi amore has something to do with love. Anyways her name and what it means isnt what in trying to get at. Her name is quite long, so its best to assume that Cadence is from a long line of royals maybe. Now another thing, I’d like to reference your video and how Cadences spell to help the couple out is the same as the potion in a way. Introducing some other comments, what if Cadence could be a possible descendent of the princess in the story? It could also make sense on why flurry heart was born an alicorn. It could be because not just one person in the family was an alicorn. Now another piece id like to introduce is how Chrysalis invaded and why she invaded. To my memory it is because of the love that could supply her and her colony, but what if there was another reason? What if Cadences and shining armors marriage is what the past crystal king and queens could not do. And if Chrysalis is the past queen is it possible she would want to stop this maybe because of jealousy? Im not sure. Id also like to point out on how Celestia was the one who arranged the marriage between Shining armor and Cadence. Celestia may have made a mistake in the past with Chrysalis and the other person and that is why she arranged it with shining armor and cadence because the marriage between chrysalis and other person had severe consequences. It sounded better in my head i promise
I was lying awake last night and I was thinking about Princess Cadence's role in the Crystal Empire and how she was already with the Crystal Heart cutie mark without even knowing about the Crystal Empire. Also where she came from and how this can relate to her connection to the crystal heart. Let's start with the older royalty of the Crystal Empire before Sombra. The Princess at the time was Amore, which is mentioned in Sombra's Origins and the Guardians of Harmony comic. Along with this information, she could be more relevant than we know because she was in the game (mlp magic princess) as an event. So let's think about the name of Cadence. Her name is Princess Mi Amore Cadenza. And in Spanish "Amore" means love and the previous princess of the Crystal Empire meant "love" while cadence's name means "my love". It's almost too closely connected to be ignored. My theory is that Cadence could be the secret daughter of Amore. To prove this by the fact Cadence was found in a pony village. The keyword here is found. And she also received her cutie mark when she was becoming an alicorn. I think it was her birthright from Amore since if she is her mom she was already powerful and the only unicorn crystal pony. My full theory is that Radiant Hope took cadence away to another village when Sombra became dark because radiant hope was close to Sombra and she knew how bad this would be for the empire when she realized there was no coming back. She is said to see herself as a princess in the crystal heart but what if it wasn't her she saw and instead she saw cadence. After all amore did say that she believes you decide your fate. And Radiant was close to the two sisters before she got cursed by sombra so I'm thinking she was told about cadence as a baby by the two sisters. The sisters were probably at the knowledge of another princess of another kingdom since they ruled all of Equestria. And this would explain why they know limited on it since all they really knew about it was what hope either told them or anything amore told them since they had no business worrying about the empire if there was already a princess there. Saved cadence the baby of Amore, and brought her to a village so no one can hurt the future savior of the crystal empire. I think that this explains her connection with the crystal empire early on and since alicorns live for a long time, I think it wouldn't be a stretch to say that cadence was a baby, possibly a newborn when Sombra killed her mother. And Sombra never knew about cadence which would make sense if she was a newborn. I think Radiant hope took cadence away in the hope she could save the crystal empire from Sombra in the future once she realized the possibility of cadence being the princess in the vision instead of her. This could connect to flurry heart too since cadence could be part crystal pony and cadence dad is unknown which would be genetics since the original amore was a unicorn and all crystal ponies are only earth ponies. So if amore was born with a horn, it could be why a flurry heart was born with wings and a horn. It was adapting to new princess standards. But Cadence's fate with the ruling empire was decided by birth. I thought about this at 2 am last night and began frantically jotting notes and my knowledge. Celestia probs adopted cadence as her niece knowing she was the successor of amore so she taught her how to rule as a princess. I think Celestia was pulling the old wink out when she adopted cadence knowing well what and where she was really from. She only met Cadence out of hiding when she went into the realm and became an alicorn. ONE more final thing would be the color scheme of amore and cadence. You might find more evidence to support this theory or differ. But this is what I think and who Cadence's father might be.
My sources are The crystal heart spell, Sombras origin, guardians of harmony, and Amore's relevance in the game by Hasbro. Meaning I think Hasbro intentionally made this connection and continued to keep it relevant.
so I'm reading this a month later and praying that I made this clear enough but it was like midnight and I was like woah when researching because I always had the theory. my ig is lilchuckofhope
yall are gonna also have to do a bit of digging to see my sources since idk how to attach my own files
Let’s stop and think about the fact that this lovely human gave us a potential backstory for this character when even the creator of the darn show didnt
Cadence may have never been given an official backstory, but on some level i think the mlp writers did that on purpose you know because they knew it would give us something to speculate about, and your speculations and theories Sawtooth are by far the best i've heard, but at least we know particular minor things about Cadences past namely that she was a Pegasus before becoming an Alicorn and all that, but a little information is better than no information.XD
@dont worry i make new channel Oh come on, his comment maybe long but it isn't that long if you want to see a long comment you should've seen the one he posted on Sawtooth's video about the portal to the EQG world, also CD's not really everywhere in fact that's nonsense at it's best.
Whether his comment is long or not, i agree with him. Mysteries like these are what shape channels like Sawtooth's. Plus, its fun to come up with our own ideas of what happened.
for those who are defending the writers leaving it alone because it leaves them "mysterious" for fans, you do realise you are being effectively suckered into JJ Abrams' "the mystery box", right?
This about it, any character says that it is mysterious was never built up ever over the course of the series. You can only push the "mystery" before it becomes clear that it is all just a smokescreen to cover up the reality that the writers don't want/know how to actually write her.
Because no matter how good the fan speculation is, it is just that, speculation. It is never going to be applied until the official writers make it so. Why do you think The Force Awakens left so many questions? Because they know that the writers can just outsource all the actual work to their fans while focusing on the next action set piece.
@LightningStripe25 I was actually replying to Sawtooth's comment, not to you. Sorry for the confusion. If I was, there would be a @(insert name here) at the start like in this one.
following a comment I made earlier today I'm now very interested in the prince's cutie mark. Certainly was he a specialist of potions, and such an important status might be related to him being a prince. Though I now wonder how the pillars weren't royalty, now.
So I just noticed something. Twilight has her mane flowy in the future (like how Celestia and Luna’s looked) she was around her friends a lot when she wasn’t as powerful. Celestia and Luna had manes like that and they were crazy OP and around the sun and moon all the time. Candace’s mane flowed when touching horns with Shining Armor, her significant other. I think the flowing mane represents strong alicorn magic and interaction with their title.
Except we see Cadence at a very young age. Even taking into account her slower aging, she was clearly immature (that is why she didn't use it again, growing up to know her spell didn't fix the core issue). She was an orphan. She could well be a child from some fallen kingdom.
Even the picture in the book shows a far older pony than Cadence as a foal sitter.
I personally think it makes more sense that the alicorn in the story would have been Cadence's predecessor, the previous princess of the Crystal Empire, rather than Cadence herself. Then it would be like Cadence's power is another bridge of healing for the whole empire, a mature and healing version of what brought them down so long ago.
I would prefer the idea that she's the daughter of, instead of the alicorn in the story. Growing up that's all she knew, she thought forced love was normal, that's why at the start in twilight's flashbacks she uses it, but no longer does now that she is older, has healed and knows better.
When the empire fell in her fillyhood, Celestia took her in and adopted her and yadayada...
This is how I think it would have gone, I stated my reasons in a previous comment which I accidently deleted. But I'll throw in the important stuff here. I think that Cadence was the daughter of the alicorn in the Hearts and Hooves day story (I think Isolde suits her) Reason 1. Age. Although like you said the story was vague with the timeline. I'd have to guess that the story but be at least 500 to 1000 years old and although we don't know his age- wait (frantic google searching) As far as I know we don't know his age but I doubt that he is centuries old. Though even if Cadance was Isolde's daughter she would still be 100s of years old but maybe alicorns age slower..? I guess but it's still not solid ground to stand on that would suggest either theories but I still wanted to bring it up. Reason 2. Storytime. If Cadance was Isolde why and how would she have the same love magic as the prince? Sure you could ague that she learned it or was always fascinated by that branch of magic but I think that's too simple and vague. Soiler. Voldemort from Harry Potter was born out of a love potion a one sided love without 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 love so he was born incapable of loving and turned out to be a heartless killer because of it. Spoiler. Rapunzel from Disney was born after her mother ate a magic flower which gave her magic powers. I think you see where I'm going with this. After Isolde drank the love potion and fell into a false love or as J.K. says, an obsession, she had Cadence who wasn't able to love anyone or if you want to make it more tragic can only love her parents who are to busy being obsessed with each other to care for her. But she can controll other people's love which she does irresponsibly when she's young to try and have some control in her life. Reason 3. I don't have a reason 3 that I can remember. It's late my brain hurts I've been here for hours send help. This took me almost three hours to think of and type out then half of it got deleted so I hope you enjoy.
Isolde was the most beautiful pony in all of Equestria and many a stallion wanted her hoof in marriage. She was a princess and alicorn. She turned them all down. She swore not to fall in love as her mother, Etain, had fallen in an out of love with many different suiters going through much heartbreak. Isolde promised herself that no stallion would ever get the better of her. One day Etain and Isolde went out to the kingdom of Cozbi to secure diplomatic relations. Normally Etain went by herself but aparrently there was a prince Isolde's age and them going could benefit both kingdoms. Isolde agreed- reluctantly as she knew arguing with her mother wouldn't end well. When they arrived they were led into a fancy hall with dim lighting and a single candle lit table with two chairs sat in the centre. 'I don't know what I was expecting' Isolde thought as Etain left. The prince sat at the first of the chairs and smiled at her. It wasn't a creepy smile, Isolde found it charming. She smiled back and started to pull the chair out but the prince got there first. 'Thank you' she said. 'What's your name?' 'Amir.' They chatted, ate, danced and laughed for hours and when Amir said that that night had been a blast and he really enjoyed Isolde's company and if she would be his. When Isolde rejected him saying that she only saw him as a friend. He sighed and said 'I understand but would you atleast have a drink with me? To a good friendship!' He took out a bottle intricately decorated with swirls and hearts and lines that looked like words but must've been in another language as Isolde couldn't read them. He poured them a goblet each and before they drank Isolde repeated 'To a good friendship.' Some time past. Isolde didn't know how much time but she did know that it was time spent with Amir and that's all she needed to know. Before long they got married and had a daughter called Cadence. Cadence was special, she was born without love and therefor she couldn't love. The weird thing about her though is that she could still manipulate the love of others. Though try as she might she could not make her parents love her as she wanted and deserved and the sad thing was they were the only ponies that she seemed to love. Isolde didn't spend much time with Cadence nor pay her much attention. As far as she was concerned the only thing that mattered was Amir and how lucky she was that they met. Soon Celestia heard rumors of a kingdom that falling into ruin as result of neglect from it's rulers. But when she arrived she realised that it was much more serious than negligence. She came into the throne room to see a 7 year-old Cadence trying to catch the attention of her parents as they stared into eachothers eyes, not knowing nor caring that their kingdom was falling into ruin and chaos by their hooves. Celestia recognised the dark magic immediately and tried to pull them apart and save them from the spell but they had been under the curse of forced love for to long and it had become unbreakable. With a heavy heart Celestia turned her back on the false couple and took little Cadence under her wing and back to Canterlot where with many trials and tribulations she managed to cure Cadance from her curse too.
As for the townsponies of Cozbi, Celestia sent them to the up and coming town of Mainhattan. I also think it would be cool for Flurry Heart to go back to see her grandparents and break the curse. I can imagine Cadence forbidding her from going but that not stopping anyway and then after they have a mother-daughter moment that super sweet and nice and stuff.
If Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)
@Miniş Dünyası actually it doesn’t really explain how Cadence is an Alicorn. I believe its been confirmed that she was originally a Pegasus. Also, Celestia says “the birth of an Alicorn is something Equestria has never seen”
@Jamie L The MLP Comics and The MLP books aren’t 100% canon and Sawtooth Waves doesn’t see them as canon either. Maybe Celestia and Luna didn’t want The Main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn
@Jamie L Unicorns are the only ones who can be alicorns because they need to make new type of magic and pegasus can’t do that since they do not have horn. for example in twilights cass she became an alicorn because she created a new type of magic which is friendship
I think the potion she was given, stayed somewhat in her, so now she has love powers. If she wasn’t that pony, maybe she was trying to get revenge on her sister who was casted by the spell., or maybe it was her mom that was spelled, and when her mom gave birth, the potion/curse, transferred to the new baby (cadence) and she didn’t want her mother’s tragedy to happen to her. It might have been that she didn’t want the new kingdom to fall, like her mother’s did. I don’t know though, what do you think? 🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄😧
Hi Sawtooth Waves, I have something you might wanna know: If you remember your video about Susnet's defeat about the episode where Starlight creates corrupted timelines, there was somethibg I wondered about the last corrupted universe...where is that other Twilight? If you think for a moment, the Twilight we know and saw goong into these universes is the one from the main story -- but what about Twilights from these universe Starlight created? What hapoened to her after she failed her test? Did she just disappeared? Orrrr....did that other Twilight turned evil and destroyed Equestria...? And maybe she would be responsible for that last timeline Twilight showed to Starlight? Let me know what you think about it by replying to me.
a love potion can also be resuluted as a foal and that foal is 100% Cadence. I mean her father created the love potion and she knows the love spell might be a genetic ability from father to daughter.
So, often in times of a love potion altering a life, if they have a child, it will often have powers resulting from the potion. They also can have a few side affects, like having a lack of love, be overly loving, or be a blank, where it has no resulting power affects. In Cadences case, i belive she gained the power of love from it. She is very trusting and loving. Everyone around her loves her without a second thought. And flurry heart also inherited this ability.
What slightly concerns me about Cadence is the tips of her wings. If I do recall correctly, than Chrysalis' disguise did not have the deeper, violet tipped wings. Cadence also did not have them when young, and the deeper violet is first seen after Twilight rescues her from Chrysalis's clutches. And she is also not seen flying a lot after that, and during 'Three's a Crowd', she just gives the vague excuse that she's 'gotten out of practice with flying'...or whatever the exact quote was. So it looks like Chrysalis damaged her wings. But yeah, I do think the possibility that Cadence was the original 'love poison Alicorn' has merit, and I don't see how anyone could call her a Mary Sue. The list of feats would include using the magic of friendship/love to beat the villain, which no one can possibly complain about if they watch this show, and use her shield to keep Sombra out of the empire during S3. And, really, she and Shining Armor were swapping off with each other until Sombra attacked Shining Armor, and Cadence collapsed shortly after. Aside from that, I can't really think of any examples where she actually did anything.
I think the two ponies are Cadence’s parents. The love spell going from being what connects them into something that effects their daughter herself being born because of the potion’s spell. The parents spending too much time focusing on each other to see what their daughter is going and is neglecting her. Celestia visits a neighboring kingdom to find it falling apart and goes to confront the rulers about it only to see them being lovey dovie and inseparable while their daughter tries to figure stuff out. Celestia takes Cadence with her back to Equestria to take care of her while she tries to figure out how to help her parents. She ends up raising Cadence, and the younger becomes a babysitter to meet people and get more social, where she meets Twilight
Cadence could've of been the daughter of the Princess Alicorn who took the Love Poison before abandoning her after she was born as she was adopted by two Earth ponies which makes me believe that the 'Love Poison' could be linked to Cadences love powers allowing her to manipulate love towards different ponies to fall in love or distract the couple from the current scenario which was already mentioned in the video. Maybe a little bit of the love Poison is in Cadence explaining her love related powers..
Luna and Cadence are so underrated istg their past is so much more interesting yet it's Celestial this , Twilight that. I don't hate Twilight and Celestial but they are overrated
I like this theory but imagine if instead she was their daughter. Based on the Sombra taking over the Crystal empire theory, maybe the couple were so in love Sombra easily took over. The couple didn't call for help and maybe the potion gave Cadence her magic.
(Btw I just mixed sawtooths theory and conspirapon3s theory.)My theory is that After Celestia and Luna realized they could raise the moon and sun,they absorbed the magic of all 3 tribes and became alicorns.Then Sombra got jealous of Celestia and Luna's power.Then chrysalis asks Celestia And Luna for help.Sombra then figures out how to take the magic from all 3 tribes and gets wings.After that luna and celestia fights sombra.Thats when starswirl comes in .He put all sombras Alicorn magic in The Alicorn Amulet. Then Sombra is banished,Chrysalis is angry and takes revenge. : )
If Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)
I think this is a great theory! They’d be so in love from the spell and distracted from each other like we see with Big Mac and Cherilee that they wouldn’t even call for help when Sombra took the empire
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@Ryan Pheasey Exactly Celestia Luna and Starswirl fought him and then he got banished
@Miniş Dünyası that doesnt really go with what celestia said when she realized that flurry heart was born an alicorn... she said that no alicorn was ever born
@lizzie Curtis They might have wanted to keep it a secret because it might have been hard to explain and with the shock of Flurry Heart to The The Main 6 it might have not been the time and the place for Cadence’s Backstory. But I still would have loved to have a canon Cadence Backstory
Cadence is as old as shining, and she was in her teens when she started baby sitting Twilight and shining is 4 maybe 5 years older than Twilight But i think that's how she got her horn , by remaking love magic , it could already have been there because of the holiday she just made it a spell , like Twilight made a spell to get her wings
While I do like this theory there isn't any evidence that cadence had a kingdom before the crystal empire and we know how that fell also the love potion had an effect on their eyes. We also know that the love potion can work on people who were never in a relationship while I think cadence's works only on people in a relationship. Also we don't know if the princess in the story ever reciprocated the love towards the prince but that is up for debate
We know that she is related to the old Empress of the Crystal Empire, named Cadenza but we really don't know if she had a kingdom, I don't think a princess would be able to be so free at Canterlot.
I don't really think Cadance ever had her own kingdom before the Crystal Empire. When she was foalsitting Twilight in the flashback, she looked too young to even have a prince and ruled over a kingdom before all of that. And also, if you pay attention to her cutie mark which has a Crystal Heart symbol on it, its implied that Cadance's destiny is to indeed, ruling over the Crystal Empire, long before she did that.
There's no evidence working to the contrary either as Cadance's backstory was never explored.
Do we actually know that those two were in an intimate relationship? Cause if they weren't, then the love spell according to you, it wouldn't have worked.
She was unquestionably and seemingly intrinsically known as the Crystal Princess to those of the Crystal Kingdom not "the new Princess". As such, she likely has a strong resemblance to the pre-Sombre Princess of said kingdom and possibly a legitimate claim as heiress. Personally, however, I am inclined to believe descendant rather than the original.
@Electric Heart Indeed. She appeared to be early to mid teens so even accounting for differences in alicorn aging rates it seems unlikely that Cadence would have had such a relationship prior. And not to be overly pedantic, but given that she was called a "babysitter" and not "nanny" or similar would also indicate (though not absolutely) sub-adult temporary caregiver.
Yeah! Hey by the way, does cadence have confirmed parents? Because I do think it could be more likely that cadence is the daughter of the two and the effects of the love potion passed onto her
I think Cadinse had a allicorn mother that drank the love potion and as a result Cadinse was born with similar powers or abilitys to connect ponies with love spells.
If you look at the episode description of Canterlot wedding part 1, it said “Celestia’s NEICE”, which means that either celestia has ANOTHER unknown sister or family member. BUT if she got that love spell put on her, and celestia saved her, then maybe she decided to raise her. But as you can tell cadence got her wings probably quit young, younger than twilight. But as you know, flurry heart is the first ever pony to be born as an alicorn, but maybe that’s not a coincidence, maybe it’s GENES. So if the theory about the prince casting the love spell on cadence os correct, he may have been attracted to her because she was famous for being the FIRST EVER BORN ALICORN?! The prince may have found one of cadences love potions and decided to use it on her, but since celestia may have decided to raise cadence she may have tried to teach her how to create love spells that are controlled. So maybe no one except celestia, cadence and maybe Luna know about this, but cadence may be ashamed of this and so celestia and Luna decide to keep it a secret and pretend that flurry is very special 😶😧. Just a thought 😁
If love magic was the only magic she seemed to use at her age of baby sitting twilight, and that’s all we ever saw her do at that age, let’s assume how weak that is. Only that kind of magic, and doing basically what the potion would. If she was a Pegasus before hand, and then got her horn, it’d make sense for her to only know few spells. So maybe over time she learned more.
I have a theory that the princess from the book in "Hearts and Hooves day" may have been the alicorn princess who got corrupted and turned into Chrysalis. That is why Chrysalis doesn't have her origin story Only the origin of the changelings.
Chrysalis Is A Full Changeling Tho- Just How The Hive Will Feed A Bee Special Honey To Make It A Queen Bee, It’s The Same With Changelings. Chrysalis May LOOK Like An Alicorn, But Keep In Mind That The Whole Hive Looks Like Ponies. She Doesn’t Really HAVE An Origin Story, The Hive Was Always Stealing Love Til They Were Reformed.
OMG WAIT ,WAIT ,WAIT WHAT IF THE REASON WHY CHRYSALIS WAS TARGETING CADENCE WAS BECAUSE SHE WAS TRYING TO PROTECT HER FROM LOVE OR WARNING HER FROM SOMETHING 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
AND BECAUSE THAT IS HER DAUGHTER SO MORE REASON OF PROTECTION SO MAYBE CADENCE MADE SHINING ARMOR FALL IN LOVE LIKE CHRYSALIS DID TO THE PRINCE THEREFORE TRYING TO TAKE SHINING ARMOR AWAY FROM HER SO THERE WOULD BE NO HEARTBREAKS TO CADENCE LIKE THEIR WAS TO CHRYSALIS OMG THIS IS ALL COMING TOGETHER PERFECTLY 😨😱
Wow that's a great reason it kinda makes sense aswell. Maybe she's also the Secret Mother of Cadence because Cadence also never talks bout her other family, actually to only princess who talks about there family is Twilight.
Or cinch's pony form, like this is how it started. Cinch was a nice pony, after they stopped doing their duties, all the ponies in equestria became desperate, and she started becaming angry towards the prince, the prince died from broken heart, as she gets depressed of what happened, 1 weeks later, she became mad about what happened, an unknown creature sends curse onto her. Turning her into chrysalis. So here's how. The princess - Cinch - Chrysalis Also that explains why cinch is greenish.
@Egr Mor 1: you don’t need to overreact and 2: no, chrysalis did that because of the love. If a diffrent or another princess had more love to share. (Or easier to target) then she would most likely go for them instead
i would agree if the changelings didn’t stay changelings.. it’s a good theory but think about it. the changelings aren’t just corrupted ponies, they’re corrupted changelings. when they become good, their form changes but they stay the same ability wise. they’re a whole different species from ponies. I think queen chrysalis looks like a changeling alicorn because she’s just the queen of the hive. though i would like to know more backstory about the changelings and specifically queen chrysalis, like, why did she become queen?
In this official short it shows that Discord created Chrysalis by fusing insect eggs for shit and giggles. https://youtu.be/jb7joIm5UdU His creation came bite him back in the ass in season 7 finale lol. When he had to go to their hive.
@Thang Fah Savung no discord is just in the part where changelings take over you see them combining changeling comunicators to talk like discord in the short
@Viola Moon because the only princess who canonically has parents is Twilight. Celestia has a Luna as her sister, however we don’t even know if those two have parents. Cadence? We know absolutely nothing about her family besides her daughter Flurry Heart with Shining Armor.
This is a good theory and all, but in the book it's explained that Cadence saved her home village from a witch, and earned her horn before going to live with Celestia, leaving no time for that to happen
I am Flora Fille, the princess of Nature and all types of forms of Nature. I believe that Princess Cadence's origin was this: ONCE UPON A TIME, 1000 YEARS AGO, there was a Crystal Empire, a kingdom that was made of crystal and love was used as a shield to protect it from the cold winds of the frozen north. It was ruled by princess Carol and Prince Adam, the prince and princess of the Crystal Empire. As time went by, a new princess was born. A young Pegasus. They named her Cadence. After a few years, she grew into a filly and all went well in the kingdom. But, soon, King Sombra, an evil unicorn who lost his wings, came to invade the Crystal Empire. Princess Carol and Prince Adams were worried about Cadence.
''If our Empire falls, Cadence might be able to protect it when she's much older,'' said Princess Carol to Prince Adams.
''Yes, but how?'' asked the prince.
''I have been watching her for a while now and realized she has the power of love,'' said Princess Carol. ''She will without fail be able to.''
''Ok''. Prince Adams agreed.
Princess Carol used her magic to teleport Cadence to the Castle of the 2 sisters where the rulers of all equestria lived. Princess Celestia and Luna took care of her and raised her. One day, due to preventing two unicorns, pegasus and earth ponies from fighting using her love magic, Cadence turned into the princess we know today and got her cutie mark as well.
This is similar to other people's theories in the comments:
So Cadance is the daughter of these two ponies, because of the potion she is very connected to love magic. Since the couple were so madly in love they forgot about their kingdom (which I think is the crystal empire) , sombra easily took it. Celestia and Luna defeated him but maybe could't save the couple, so thats why they took Cadance in. Somehow she turned into an alicorn. This is most likely really close to the actual backstory, cuz when the crystal empire came back celestia straight away gave it to cadance and shining armor to rule and plus her cutie mark is the crystal heart. Also cuz the fact that the crystal ponies said that cadance was the "crystal princess", they must have recognised her.
I have a theory so bear with me here: Cadence is in the alicorn princess from the story but instead her daughter, she was a product of artificial love and growing up she always thought that loves bells and love potions were hell ponies and creatures fell in love. I feel like she might’ve used a potion similar on someone that she had a puppy crush on when she was young.
Soon enough celestial was alerted about the lovestruck Alicorn princess and pulled the family a part In order to one, break the love potion and two, try and help cadence. After that I feel like Celestia would try and teach her about love and what it truly is compared to what her parents had. Idk if this would work or not, I’m open to opinions soooooo yeah there’s my theory
3:34-3:38 There were many times where Cadance's kingdom nearly fell. And everytime those times happen is because of King Sombra. Maybey because she was too distracted by that "love potion" at the past, that's why her kingdom fell, like the story said but it might be because of King Sombra but it did not say in the story. Like Sawtooth said, maybey Celestia came and seperated Cadance apart from her "lover". Maybey she was too scared that will happen again so she took all her might and like what Shinning said "She hadn't slept, barely eats". This is in my opinion
Well if your theory is correct, then that means for the period of time when Cadence used the love spell, she was mentally and emotionally torturing others for her own benefit. If she was so traumatized by that experience, then it must mean that the spell causes some sort of physiological damage, as a victim of that trauma she'd know exactly how horrible it is. This is kiiiiinda something I feel like Celestia and Luna wouldn't exactly be happy about.... because she's sacrificing her subject's happiness for her own, the very subjects she's meant to lead and protect. If you think about it that way, then the theory sort of falls apart, but it's an interesting idea.
Maybe that princess was Cadence’s mom it doesn’t look exactly like her and her power was hereditary but maybe since her mother wasn’t around it adds a scar to her past.
Could be but there's no proof to support that theory as I don't think there were alicorns before her birth other than Celestia and Luna which both are clearly not her mother.
Usually the problem between the stallion and the mare was a love they were already pair by true love but in the portion it was different big Mack and cheerliy didn't was love pair the spell that candence used is to connect the broken love not to make fake love
Can we talk about how Cadence is Celestias niece (I believe it was confirmed, been years since I heard that) and that Prince Blueblood is also her nephew. What other sibling does Celestia have for her to be an aunt 🧐 or these r probably random ponies she picked up
I was just rewatching the mlp series and I noticed that in season 2 episode 12, 'Family Appreciation Day' Miss Cheerilee's cutiemark keeps changing from her usual flowers to three umbrellas?! My Brain can't take it-
I doubt that she is the princess from the story simply from the fact that, when we see her when Twilight is a filly, we can see that she is much shorter than she is in the present day, heavily implying that she was still a child. She was likely too young to be the princess in the story, especially because the illustration shows a fully grown mare.
I hate how princess Luna and cadence are so underrated. They have an ,ummm... different past. Edit: I’m talking about the show. I want to know more about the two. I watched sawtooth’s vid. There are loved in the fandom for the same reason :)
No i feel like she is she doesn’t have many important parts rather then when ceslestia and her switched cutie marks, when the 3 princesses were singing to twighlight and a few times she was talking to her sister
I think you should go back to Sawtooth’s older videos discussing which Princess the fandom likes the most. It has a pretty interesting, and funny result!
I have an idea for your next video: Cadence the bringer of destruction/fall of the crystal empire How old is cadence? Think about it, she has the crystal heart as her cutiemark yet the crystal empire was gone up until season 3, so she had to have been around before the crystal empire vanished. We also know that cadence was not banished along with the crystal ponies because she babysat twilight. She was an alicorn as far back as we can see and we know they age differently; so we she could be way older than we thought. Is it possible that cadence is a crystal pony & that when king Sombra turned bad Cadence is the one that asked the princesses to save the crystal empire? The other theory on the changelings cohabitating in the crystal empire also makes sense because when queen chrysalis was posing as cadence for the royal wedding Cadence seemed to be the one that already knew the most about them. (also Celestia, because she knew queen chrysalis' name before she had to be introduced.) I would make a lot of sense if the princess of "love" earned her alicorn status (by creating a new type of magic "love is magic") in a society where love is an integral part of existing: the light and love charges the crystal heart, and the love that the changelings use. But wait! is it possible that the princess worthy deed that cadence did to become an alicorn was put the crystal heart system in place? Think about it. If the empire previously used a different system of keeping the winter at bay and it failed, then an extraordinary young unicorn who had just realized that love is a magic strong enough to keep the winter at bay. She carved a large crystal into the symbol of love and instructed the panicking ponies that this would work and to be strong for the ponies that they cared about. They could already see how the power their love fed the changelings. Cadence performs a love spell on the crystal heart turning it into a vessel for the strength of love that that the ponies had for each other and the cold wind of the north are blasted back. Cadence floats into the sky be magic not her own and vanished into another realm where she meets celestia for the first time. She gets her wings and reappears in front of the crystal ponies as an alicorn (and perhaps earning her cutiemark at the same time). The ponies celebrate and declare this young pony Cadence is worthy of becoming their leader someday. This puts king sombra's position at risk. But, he has bigger things to worry about: the crystal heart system seems to be working well but Sombra sees a problem. The changelings apatite for love is now a problem because the empire now runs off of love. If the changlings grow in numbers or if their apatite increases it will put the empire at risk. There is only one thing to do banish the changelings. (If my theory is correct: the mere presence of Cadence is the reason the crystal empire fell and why the changelings turned bad. Although chrysalis didn't seem to be hold any particular grudge against sombra when grogar brought them all together, maybe because cadence had a more direct hand in their banishment.) After all this it would make sense why no one bothers to mention her past, she didn't even tell twilight. Why would she? Its even worse than (more embarrassing) than starlight's past. Think about it; her becoming an alicorn the symbol of leadership caused sombra's corruption (though it may not have changed the outcome for the changelings). This is an example of Starswirl's alicorn creation system causing negative results. If she had not become an alicorn she would simply have become something of a hero to the people as spike did & even more important not a threat to Sombra's position (especially if he wasn't an alicorn. This could've lead to him seeking different means to appear more powerful to the people to solidify his position, via the alicorn amulet that corrupts anyone who wears it.
y`know, when i saw the episode when Christalis impersonated Cadence i actually knew something wasnt right.. i was focused on her horn and how the colors werent the same.
What if her mother was the unicorn who took the love potion and before the love potion wore off on her, she had Cadance, resulting in her having magical abilities with love, and due to the powers initially coming from the potion, those powers were enough to result in her cutie mark as that’s what she was the best at, as well as that power being most significant to her ‘present’ and future, ultimately making it her destiny to be crowned as such, due to the power to make others get along was more than likely sought after, making her an obvious choice for a queen.
Sorry for bothering any of you with this, but I really wanted to share my thoughts on this. Trigger warning: rape, sexual abuse
In all honesty, I feel connected to cadence in this aspect if the theory is true. Especially if "love spells" are seen as a stand-in for sexual abuse. At least in this context. I recently realized that the guy I used to date over a year ago actually raped me and groomed me. I can relate to that feeling of helplessness, the urge to take back control and power. I want to see the guy suffer or at least punished for what he did, but I know the justice system will allow him to walk free without consequences. The feeling of wanting to become the consequence is overwhelming and it takes a lot to focus on getting your life together again instead of taking revenge. It's very difficult. And if this theory is confirmed, it would make cadence a figure to look up to even more. A ray of hope for others in similar situations. A sign that says "you can do this".
And just to be clear, I am not saying that revenge is bad. I believe that it can truly help to heal victims and survivors of horrible crimes. I am just saying that it's important to try focusing on getting your life back together first and then going pro revenge on them. Unless you have faith in the justice system, of course.
Sorry for rambling. TLDR: Cadence as viewed through this theory makes her very relatable and strangely comforting to me. And it inspires me to work hard on getting my shit together again.
@Abby_liko well we’re not really sure that they died but it’s most likely because in the ep crusaders of the lost mark apple jack said to apple blossom “if mom and dad were here they would be proud of you” and they were crying. Plus that’s a thing people would say if there talking about if someone’s parents died.
Putting aside the question of whether books and tweets--vague as they are--which contradict this have canonical weight, this theory has the problem that Cadance has visibly aged since she was Twilight's babysitter. She appeared to be a teenager back then, and now she looks like an adult; it's hard to pin down a precise apparent age for her at either time due to the limited variation in pony models and our lack of an actual reference point in terms of a pony of known age, but it's plausible that she's aging at the same rate as an ordinary non-alicorn and clear that she's at least been aging at some non-negligible rate. That strongly implies that she's not at all ancient and thus can't have been involved in any old legends.
And then, of course, there's the question of what connection, if any, exists between Princess Cadance and Princess Amore, the Crystal Princess from before the Crystal Empire disappeared . . .
Maybe cadence was the daughter of the two, which would explain her cutie mark, learning what actual love is, stopping the curse her father put on Her mom and saving her kingdom, maybe she used a fake cutie mark when she was young, because she didn't know why her cutie mark wasn't there because she thought she knew everything about love... which explains why she did that to the couple cause she was taught that was love...
The woman and men could possibly be cadences parents which makes sense of why she has that ability. It would probably match up with cadences child that was born an alicorn, maybe cadence was born an alicorn as well. When cadence was little she maybe probably found out what her mother was going through and got hurt by that. But that still doesn’t add up to their kingdom falling but cadence could have been born before that even happening. For me it makes sense for this and also yours but who knows maybe it’ll be a secret for a long time. We’ll see. I hope you like my thought Thanks for reading 😁
Fan Theory Time. Candace and this stallion was so distracted with love that that's how King Sombra was able to take over The Crystal Empire! And when Celestia, and Luna defeated, and banished King Sombra without a kingdom and nowhere else to live that's when Celestia took Candace under her wing and to teach her how to use her love spells more carefully and for good! 💔
@AshBlueFox16 no princess amore was much older then cadence the reason why i say it was amore she was the ruler of the princess empire and she was always alone at that time so it would make sense if it was princess amore
I am pretty sure princess amore used to take care of the crystal empire and could be the mom cadence.read fall of the crystall empire and evil is magic book 1
The crystal empire fell loonnnng before cadences time. We know because Of the way alicorns grow and how long the crystal empire has been missing Dont forget that that scene from the show depicted cadence as a teenager. She wasn’t even a full grown pony and she was an alicorn. That’s why I don’t agree with most of these theories.
I have an idea. Cadence's mom and dad could be the ponies in the story. They had a baby,which is Cadence,and when their kingdom fell,Celestia heard about the news,and went to the kingdom and found Cadence,and took her in. Maybe Cadence has her love magic,because of the potion,leaving an affect on her. But that's just what I think.
What if her spell works by solving the differences between those who are arguing and it doesn't actually have anything to do with that type of attraction or love at all? It would still work the same way on everyone but not everyone would react the same way. Two arguing ponies who aren't in a relationship would stop fighting but they wouldn't fall in love with each other. Their differences would just be settled. She's the princess of love but that's not just one form of love.
Funny enough when Cadence was introduced, I was expecting a darker turn in the episode; I thought Cadence was going to be a changeling the whole time and that would be it
Here is another idea! It was her parents. Her mother was with the love poison which is what caused the Crystal empire to fall to Sombra. Then the two had a baby which was rescued by Celestia and given her wings since Celestia knew her parents were gone and the kingdom would one day return. Because the mother was under the influence of the love potion when Candence was conceived…. That’s why she has that magic.
I don't think so. I think it was her destiny to spread love as she is the "crystal princess". Her magic is linked to love just like her kingdom. I think it was to show that her destiny is linked to the Crystal Kingdom. It was a foreshadow that she is ment to spread love to keep a kingdom intact.
Cadance is the princess of the Crystal Empire and hearts and hooves as a holiday was around way before cadance was around.
Don't forget that princess amore was around and cadace has similar magic, love magic spefically to that of princess amore ( amore being french for love)
Also the two fighting were confirmed to be a married couple of the verge of a divorce before cadance helped them.
Which princess amore was confirmed and cadnace is said to be a descendant of princess amore ( who not only was the orginal ruler of the Empire but who also created the Crystal heart)
If could be that princess amore in her youth may have been affected by the love potion/poison. But that is directly debunked if you look at the comics since princess amore never forsaked her duties .
It could be that beucase the term princess is automatically seen as being an alicorn , that the artist who made the book didnt know that a regular unicorn could a princess and so drew them as an alicorn.
I kinda like the idea that those are her parents because that would make her more or less born of that magic. Heck, even if they’re her grandparents or great grandparents, so long as she’s a direct descendent of the Hearts and Hooves ponies, she’d still only exist because of the love poison.
The part of me whose like “nooo this is too dark” on the other hand wants to headcanon that Cadence’s magic can’t mind control anyone and only brings to the surface love that’s already there. Not that there’s a contradiction in the two...
There's actually a book called Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell that tells us the story of Princess Cadence's past. So the Hearts and Hooves day story couldn't be about Cadence. Also it explains that she didn't just come out of nowhere, but it doesn't explain how she became an alicorn.
the one thing you missed the princess pony looked a lot like cadence the hair was exactly the same and the male prince looked almost identical to twilights brother who is cadences husband so I think that the story was written far in the future where cadence and her husband are dead and someone’s magic brought it in to the past witch i’m assuming is flurry heart I mean who else would need cadence to come back she’s the princess of love I can’t really think of a disaster they would need her for but back to the book being sent to the past thing so the reason they needed her is because of equestria needing her and her husband withought them there wouldn’t be “Love”
I mean, I feel like she was the orphaned child of the Crystal Empire after something bad happened with the kingdom, and that she was then raised privately by some survivors before becoming an alicorn. And that then she met Celestia in Celestia’s realm and was taken back to be raised as her niece. I don’t remember where I got this theory but it makes much more sense than trying to connect two vastly different ideas. If anything, I would think Cadence’s mom had been the princess afflicted. (This is all just speculation though).
I think the couple was Cadence’s parents. The prince made the potion for her mother and the two of them got married and eventually had a child. But it didn’t take long for them to become so overrun with love, that they neglected their duties to the Crystal Empire and Sombra once again too control. Her parents were killed in the process, and Celestia took her in and then covered the Crystal empire with snow. She raised the young girl as her niece and eventually turned her into an alicorn
Cadence definitely had to have been around for a while, because in season 4, after he was released Tirek knew about Cadence (but not twilight) so she must have been around when he was imprisoned.
7th element faith(green). Spike who has a chair at the table in Twilight s Castle. Stygan may have been the 7th but ended up having his faith broken and possibly stunted the trees growth seeking the elements. Celestia may have thought twilight her faithful student was the secret 7th who could awaken the sleeping elements. the 7th fuels the others while twilight s units them. Ps love the sombra alicorn amulet video
I agree with you that’s the last year came to her rescue but maybe it wasn’t cadence that was under the spell maybe it was her mother and Celestia couldn’t separate her mother and father so instead of trying to save her mother she decided to let the kingdom fall and then cadence was old enough to rule the kingdom let her rule
What if the downfall of the princess’ kingdom was related to king sombra taking over the crystal empire? Like if you think about it, we don’t have much backstory on the original ruler before him, and the crystal ponies call cadence the “crystal princess” when it seems they don’t know much about her…but what if she or an ancestor was the original ruler?
I think, that the princess with the love potion was princess Amore. Amore means love, so she had something to with it... And Hope in the Crystal siege said, that cadance is very simular to her. Maybe they are connected...
As per usual, love the vids...but I have always wondered how her mane is 3 different colors and her wings two...and the explanation behind it, I mean does it only happen to alicorn royals, b/c Celestia's hair is sometimes depicted as light pink in her youth and now it's multi-colored welp are pony's familiar with the use of hair dye or is it magic, welp with a video please with cheese
i personaly think that the love spell ponies might've been her parents, and the potion affected the princess magic so it transported to her child as Cadance's magic source
If this is true, and taking into account that her age is unknown as well as tirek knew her, cadance could be the lost crystal princess, making it her empire that fell due to sombra's rule when she failed to protect it. This tie in neatly with your theory.
I think the cadance was the pony but when sombra came to the crystal empire cadance's mom defeated and went to gave her child a better future and she walked so hard that she dropped her at the earth pony village and then prisimia wanted love like queen chrysalis and she gave her a love spell without magic and then she had gone to the place where pnies become alicorns and celestia adopted as her royal niece and then she git her cutie mark as the crystal heart and she noticed that she ll rule one day and today she is the princess of the crystal empire
i noticed that Cadence was the only princess whose wings are purple at the tips (or have some color at the tips) and it makes me wonder if SHE was born an alicorn and that is the reason Flurry Heart was born with wings. maybe Cadence being a descendant of the prince & princess from the love day tale caused her to be born an alicorn thus she already knew what it was like to love but not in the way her cutie mark spoke and so she was born into alicornhood, like Flurry Heart being born already knowing how to love “ lightly “ like the crystal ponies do.
i soooo wish they didnt end the season so fast and cleared up certain things or at least had a discussion about all our unanswered questions. a lot of their episodes were rushed and made no sense at times and they never bothered to write in any answers for it. just left it a big mystery and ended the show. unlessssss, thats a plan for the new generation 🤡 actually doubt that lol
I think cadence was that princess on the potion and the kingdom that fell was the cristal empire, cuz cadence was so hipnotized by the potion that King sombra came and took over the empire, and only 1000 years later she started to rule the cristal empire again...
I think chrysalis is the the victim of the love potion but the Prince mixed it the wrong way or added something else like a part of a changeling. it could also be both to explain why chrysalis feeds of love and is a alicorn so she fed of the love of her kingdom
The stallion and mare in the book aren't related to Cadence. In fact, the mare having wings was an error, because later on in the episode, we see the same pair of ponies in the book but the mare only has a horn.
Maybe cadence had a bad child hood and then when she finally got her cutey mark, she was finally able to get everyone together again and find love or find out what love was.
You make good points but if she really is the alicorn princess from hearts and hooves day then how did she break free from the love spell if shining armour didn’t exist back then but also when we take a look back to when she and twilight first met, she didn’t have a horn, we see that later on so what if that isn’t her but Luna and Celestia's secret sibling or she could be an alicorn from before Celestia and luna existed or it could be an alicorn related to twilight🤔 I mean there are so many possibilities of who is mystery alicorn really is, and where they came from and another thing who is the prince in the story and how did he meet this mysterious alicorn we know nothing about🤔
When we first met princess cadence she was never explained or expanded on of her backstory and her life I wish they made a princess cadence episode where we get to see her origin like how what she is and how she became to be and when she first met twilight sparkle
Okay so what if the hearts and hooves day prince and princess were cadence's parents, which would mean (1) the parents' kingdom fell, sending cadence away, (2) she could have inherited the ability somehow, and (3) since she's supposedly from another land, she could have been Born an alicorn- the other princesses wouldn't've known and it would explain why Cadence was the only one not really shocked or concerned when Flurry was born an alicorn. Her secret :o
I think you're right. If the princess in the book is Cadence, she would have got distracted from her duty to protect the Crystal Empire, so King Sombra got the chance to take over it. As you said if Princess Celestia and Luna went to her rescue, I think that means by banishing Sombra to the frozen north just like Princess Celestia told Twilight about the Crystal Empire but "not before he was able to put a curse upon the empire that made it vanish into thin air", sound familiar as Celestia gave Twilight's test at season 3, episode 1? But I think there also might be the possibilty that the alicorn princess was Cadence's mom. Because Celestia is more than a thousand years old, but Cadence is more shorter than her, so it might be Cadence's mom. What do you think???
I’ve been doing some research about who her parents were but I couldn’t find anything but, I heard that she was born a Pegasus in the zebra empire and and she was raised by Earth ponies, but when she turned into a alicorn, princess Celestia took her and that’s where she was crowned a princess
The most confusing thing of all of this is why Celestia refers to Cadance as her "adopted niece", not "adopted daughter". Does it have anything to do with a lost sibling of Celestia and Luna? Maybe that Cosmos character that was rejected from the 2017 movie was planned earlier on, and for some reason they never actually got to bringing him in.
I have a theory. It couldn't be cadence bc she was super young when that happened. If you meant "She was sent to babysit other foals families" she was a teen. Alot of teens don't date. At that age. Also sure they didn't specify the time, so Twilight was probably (idk) Teh first foal she babysat.
In that scene, I think it’s reasonable to assume she didn’t put any thought into the spell she cast, and did it to stop the arguing whilst baby twilight was present, it’s not to say that’s the only way she is the princess of love. She was just doing a quick job as a babysitter
“Candace’s age is unknown” Well in that flashback she was around the same size as Twilight when the series first started and Twilight was still a filly soooo she’s probably 15-20 years older then Twilight
@Sawtooth Waves could you please do princess celestia and princess luna past? We know little to nothing about their past the show never even did a in depth story of their background.
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Tophs Right Foot2021-03-12 18:01:31 (edited 2021-03-12 18:05:45 )
@Reagan Thai (Btw I just mixed sawtooths theory and conspirapon3s theory.)My theory is that After Celestia and Luna realized they could raise the moon and sun,they absorbed the magic of all 3 tribes and became alicorns.Then Sombra got jealous of Celestia and Luna's power.Then chrysalis asks Celestia And Luna for help.Sombra then figures out how to take the magic from all 3 tribes and gets wings.After that luna and celestia fights sombra.Thats when starswirl comes in .He put all sombras Alicorn magic in The Alicorn Amulet. Then Sombra is banished,Chrysalis is angry and takes revenge. : )
I always wonder what is a year in equestria i am sure its not the same as here on earth and when Luna and Celestia run the cycle it gets more confused Can alicorns age? Isnt it just time is slower and ponies can be 1000y old All i know a month is 30 moons but how long is a day i need to know
@Sawtooth Waves yeah but allsou its like 1000 years since heart warming to modern days and that too much time to she no change at all (definetly in way how she changet betwen Twitlite fili and 2 Seazon) out of that where will be that kingdom? ps sorry for my english.
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Ryan Pheasey2021-03-14 10:44:39 (edited 2021-03-15 18:25:41 )
@Sawtooth Waves your right they do age differently and Cadence was a alicorn even back when she baby sat Twilight. But Twilight was still a filly and Cadence didn’t look too much older in those flashbacks from ‘a canterlot wedding’ Cadence definitely was older but she only looked like she was around inner early teenage years
@Reagan Thai that would be amazing! We legit know nothing from the sisters past but in my opinion there isn’t any evidence to suggest anything. Sawtooth has already had a theory that the sisters were just unicorns when the tribes we divided and that Starwirl noticed that they had amazing powers, made then alicorns and that’s pretty much all we know
I think the kingdom she ruled before WAS the crystal empire and once princess celestia helped her and took over. in the crystal empire episode when cadance came with the crystal heart a stallion yelled "here comes the crystal princess"
For the ponies arguing in twilight's flashback, do we know for sure they were in a relationship. They could have just been friends, or even worse, siblings.
I am new to ur channel but I luv ur content and ur editing skills. Keep it up, ill be here daily, and sometimes ill give u my take on a specific MLP theory. Good Luck
I'm not sure if comics are considered official. But there are comics with Cadence's backstory! It goes into how cadence and shining armor fell in love. There's a rich snooty guy that likes her, she doesn't like him. They're all at some sort of dance, and shining armor and cadence kiss towards the end, with a heart forming above their horns! Just thought I'd bring that up.
If you actually think about it more the crystal empire fell into sambras control. So if it was cadence in the story then that would have been the emire to fall due to lack of work. Would also explain why their is a crystal heart on cutie mark since it was her empire in the first place
This is like super late 😅 but I was rewatching this video while watching the Canterlot wedding where we meet Queen Crysallis. What if the princess in the hearts and hooves story isn’t related to Cadence at all? What if it’s Crysallis? And the way she is now is the aftermath of the love potion? Idk 🤷♀️ just a thought, probably doesn’t add up though.
I think cadence is the daughter of the the two ponies that fell in love a long time ago and then got her powers from the potion but she didn't know what the spell would do if she used it thats why she used it and celestia found her as a baby so she gave her to a family that wanted to have a kid because she is to young to be in love with the prince
If Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)
What if those ponies were her parents or grand parents. When Sombra took over the crystal kingdom, it sounded like he did it very easily, maybe Cadence was always destined to be the ruler of the crystal kingdom
I do remember seing somewhere, that cadence use to be a pegasus, that earned her horn though something, thus becoming an alacorn princess , kinda like how twilight earned her wings, but the opposite.
I’m thinking cadence is their daughter. Maybe the love potion was so strong it’s powers went to their daughter. And she had to see her mom and dad be in “love” but she knew some how they were actually in love. Or when the potion power was given to cadence her parents love spell broke and she saw what really happened
Or another theory, she's their daughter and she got her powers due to the potion's influence, then as a child she saw that the spell was broken and that her parents don't actually live each other so she was using her magic to make people, especially the ones she saw had "problems" fall in love because she assumed they would be happy then. Only later Celestia told her about the side effects of the potion and how their kingdom fell and taught Cadence about true love.
Cadance can't be the Princess from the Book. In a Flashback in "A Canterlot Wedding Part 1", where Cadance was a Foalsitter, she was small an Twilight was a Foal smaller then the CMC (around 15 years before the Show), so Cadance is just a few Years older as Twilight (maybe she is 23-25 in the show, Twilight around 19). Faust has say, she just planed to have Celestia and Luna as only Alicorns in the Show and Cadance was not planed as Alicorn. Theres no Past of her, because Cadance is just an Side Character and the Creators of the Figure never have develop a BG for her (most of the Char was made after Faust has leave the Team). I like your Videos, but maybe you should look more on Facts, instead of Speculations and the Facts say, theres not a detailed BG for every Char in the Show. The Creators of the Show have left many Things unexplained, without an Answer. So all is possible, until Hasbro decide to publish an official Book with complete Bios to all Figures.
I think maybe Cadence wasn't the unicorn princess, but the child of the two who were under the spell of the lovepotion, and that it's power passed on to her.
I thought they were her parents or grandparents because that would explain why she is a alicorn and why her daughter was born one, because she could have been born one, and it could be genetics that her daughter was also born one.
Also the holiday seems pretty old and cadence doesn't seem that old she was only a young pony when she babysat Twilight.
i think you are right. cadance was a princess of a different empire but saved and rehabilitated by celestia. now princess cadance can now be able to lead another empire.
But how did she even become an allicorn? Cuss when flurry heart was born Celestia and Luna said it was the first born allicorn they have ever seen. So how did cadence earn her wings or horn??
Did anyone else notice the one random poney in the crystal empire say “the crystal princess.” Also cadence’s cuitie mark looks looks like the crystal heart.
I think that the old crystal empire princess was the one who had been in love and didn’t put her kingdom in order, that’s how sombra took over then led the two sisters turned him to shadow. Then cadence was her daughter(MABYE) and that’s how she managed to get that spell because the first crystal empire princess might’ve given birth to her while she was under the spell? That’s what I suppose
I was thinking that cadence could’ve been the child of the two ponies and the potion could’ve affected her at birth giving her the magic of love or something like that
Honestly it makes sense HER kingdom fell and she rules the crystal empire. then the evil king came and all.. i also think the changeling queen is someone that was jealous of cadence. or the changeling queen is the victim of the love potion and when celestia took them apart she grew angry and started to feed of love.. Also if you did'int see when big mac & Cheer-lie had the potion there eyes turned pink for 1 second same thing when cadence hugged prince charming and the flew then there eyes turned pink for a second oddly similar.. I don't know but the thing i'm sticking on to is that cadence was born an alicorn but her parents never told her then the prince gave the potion to cadence and spread love until she found a spell and the first people to use the magic went psycho and celestia had to separate them in the jails below that the changeling queen said everyone forgot about but on day the girl escaped and found out the prince was dead so she wanted to get revenge and turned into the changeling queen and fed of of love.
Theory time... Cadence looks really young to be that princess because it was from so long ago unless... She's using a spell too make herself look younger so no one knows unless Celestia and Luna know...
Your theory is cool, but Cadence was born a pegasus turn alicorn compared to Twilight being a born unicorn. If anything, whenever drama happened that made Cadence the adopted niece to Celestia and Luna, that event would've gifted her alicorn status so people would know she is genuine royalty now.
Perdón por el español en este canal. Pero según el libro canon de Twilight y el corazón de cristal se dice que Candace era una pequeña pegaso huérfana, fue adoptada por unos campesinos, se dice que consiguió su cuerno porque reformó a una bruja malvada, Celestia apareció y le dió un cuerno, es en ese momento donde Celestia la adoptó como su sobrina PD : De sus padres no se dice nada en el libro, pero bueno, por algo existen las teorías.
Look at Cadences's hindlegs in the flash backs. They are shorter, I think she'll a teenager in that flashback. It only takes half a lifetime for an albacore to become fully grown, she must be younger than that.
The two ponies were Cadance´s parents, and the "fallen" kingdom was the Crystal Empire. Cadance was probably the result of the love potion, and thats why she has similiar powers. "the kingdom falling" was possibly Sombra taking over, because the princess was too "busy" to do her royal duties. Its only my theory tho.
Cant be cus the birth from an alicorn was never a thing until Flurry Heart came along- So Cadence was not the daughter of the Alicorn in the book, pretty sure its Cadence herself-
@Daniela Bohunická Maybe she was born pegasus but had love power in her, we know every tipe of pony (earth ponies, pegasus and unicorns) have magic, maybe with that magic in herself she solved some problem as kid and then become alicorn, so she can use love magic like unicorn. For example, mane six have friendship magic in themselves, but they can use it just together, usually through Twilight.
@Daniela Bohunická Yeah, Cadence WAS a pegasus but the an alicorn giving birth was never a thing until Cadence birthed Flurry, thats what I meant- (at least I think so-)
@Tangle Hamain I dont think that was ever mentioned in the show, all that was said was that a pony was never born an alicorn straight away, (before flurry of course)
(Btw I just mixed sawtooths theory and conspirapon3s theory.)My theory is that After Celestia and Luna realized they could raise the moon and sun,they absorbed the magic of all 3 tribes and became alicorns.Then Sombra got jealous of Celestia and Luna's power.Then chrysalis asks Celestia And Luna for help.Sombra then figures out how to take the magic from all 3 tribes and gets wings.After that luna and celestia fights sombra.Thats when starswirl comes in .He put all sombras Alicorn magic in The Alicorn Amulet. Then Sombra is banished,Chrysalis is angry and takes revenge. : )
@Tangle Hamain I didnt see that in any episode i mixed theory's.And Chrysalis and Nightmare moon are the only villians not introduced by celestia probably cause they include bad memorys
This is how I think it would have gone, I stated my reasons in a previous comment which I accidently deleted. But I'll throw in the important stuff here. I think that Cadence was the daughter of the alicorn in the Hearts and Hooves day story (I think Isolde suits her) Reason 1. Age. Although like you said the story was vague with the timeline. I'd have to guess that the story but be at least 500 to 1000 years old and although we don't know his age- wait (frantic google searching) As far as I know we don't know his age but I doubt that he is centuries old. Though even if Cadance was Isolde's daughter she would still be 100s of years old but maybe alicorns age slower..? I guess but it's still not solid ground to stand on that would suggest either theories but I still wanted to bring it up. Reason 2. Storytime. If Cadance was Isolde why and how would she have the same love magic as the prince? Sure you could ague that she learned it or was always fascinated by that branch of magic but I think that's too simple and vague. Soiler. Voldemort from Harry Potter was born out of a love potion a one sided love without 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 love so he was born incapable of loving and turned out to be a heartless killer because of it. Spoiler. Rapunzel from Disney was born after her mother ate a magic flower which gave her magic powers. I think you see where I'm going with this. After Isolde drank the love potion and fell into a false love or as J.K. says, an obsession, she had Cadence who wasn't able to love anyone or if you want to make it more tragic can only love her parents who are to busy being obsessed with each other to care for her. But she can controll other people's love which she does irresponsibly when she's young to try and have some control in her life. Reason 3. I don't have a reason 3 that I can remember. It's late my brain hurts I've been here for hours send help. This took me almost three hours to think of and type out then half of it got deleted so I hope you enjoy.
Isolde was the most beautiful pony in all of Equestria and many a stallion wanted her hoof in marriage. She was a princess and alicorn. She turned them all down. She swore not to fall in love as her mother, Etain, had fallen in an out of love with many different suiters going through much heartbreak. Isolde promised herself that no stallion would ever get the better of her. One day Etain and Isolde went out to the kingdom of Cozbi to secure diplomatic relations. Normally Etain went by herself but aparrently there was a prince Isolde's age and them going could benefit both kingdoms. Isolde agreed- reluctantly as she knew arguing with her mother wouldn't end well. When they arrived they were led into a fancy hall with dim lighting and a single candle lit table with two chairs sat in the centre. 'I don't know what I was expecting' Isolde thought as Etain left. The prince sat at the first of the chairs and smiled at her. It wasn't a creepy smile, Isolde found it charming. She smiled back and started to pull the chair out but the prince got there first. 'Thank you' she said. 'What's your name?' 'Amir.' They chatted, ate, danced and laughed for hours and when Amir said that that night had been a blast and he really enjoyed Isolde's company and if she would be his. When Isolde rejected him saying that she only saw him as a friend. He sighed and said 'I understand but would you atleast have a drink with me? To a good friendship!' He took out a bottle intricately decorated with swirls and hearts and lines that looked like words but must've been in another language as Isolde couldn't read them. He poured them a goblet each and before they drank Isolde repeated 'To a good friendship.' Some time past. Isolde didn't know how much time but she did know that it was time spent with Amir and that's all she needed to know. Before long they got married and had a daughter called Cadence. Cadence was special, she was born without love and therefor she couldn't love. The weird thing about her though is that she could still manipulate the love of others. Though try as she might she could not make her parents love her as she wanted and deserved and the sad thing was they were the only ponies that she seemed to love. Isolde didn't spend much time with Cadence nor pay her much attention. As far as she was concerned the only thing that mattered was Amir and how lucky she was that they met. Soon Celestia heard rumors of a kingdom that falling into ruin as result of neglect from it's rulers. But when she arrived she realised that it was much more serious than negligence. She came into the throne room to see a 7 year-old Cadence trying to catch the attention of her parents as they stared into eachothers eyes, not knowing nor caring that their kingdom was falling into ruin and chaos by their hooves. Celestia recognised the dark magic immediately and tried to pull them apart and save them from the spell but they had been under the curse of forced love for to long and it had become unbreakable. With a heavy heart Celestia turned her back on the false couple and took little Cadence under her wing and back to Canterlot where with many trials and tribulations she managed to cure Cadance from her curse too.
As for the townsponies of Cozbi, Celestia sent them to the up and coming town of Mainhattan. I also think it would be cool for Flurry Heart to go back to see her grandparents and break the curse. I can imagine Cadence forbidding her from going but that not stopping anyway and then after they have a mother-daughter moment that super sweet and nice and stuff. This is my theory :) It's a little longer sorry.
@Quinn Russ Ummm idk about that I mean, shes (was) the frickin ruler of Equestria. If there was a ony that was born an Alicorn before, she wouldve known about it-
ok so i worked on this theory, I think its their daughter. they were under the love spell, they had a daughter, love spell powers given to daughter, love spell broke, cadence left alone in the forest, kingdom fell apart, (pretty sure her mother was the ruler of crystal empire) and raised by two pegasi, has the same powers blah blah and here's what she is now
I have a theory on the Magic of Friendship: What if we don't have all the elements, there might be more to what we now, and I just looked a Twilight's cutiemark, like the big pink star has sig points, just like has it started with six elements. But there's still five other stars on her cutiemark, what if those are the five missing elements. Like Sunset Shimer and Starlight Glimer. Let me explain. When we meet Sunset Shimer, and she bullied Twilight for the two days she was there in the first movie. But at the end, Twilight still forgave Sunset and became her friend, so I think Sunset is the element of forgiveness. And Starlight Glimer, in the episode we meet her in she was jealous, and wanted control of the town, and took all the ponys cutiemarks but didn't take her's. She kept hers and controlled the town. But Twilight also became her friend, and I think the Starlight is the element of jealousy, because friend can still be jealous of others but move past it.
I don't think that the princess form that tale of a potion was cadence as it is depicted to be an older alicorn while during a flashback to when she was Twilight's foal sitter we see that cadence is still pretty young but I think it's possible that she is the daughter wich may explain how she can do the magic spell similar to the potion
I always wondered where those stories that appeared in the books, throughout the series, were based. Cause something like this happens with the G5 that it is likely that the G4 has only been a story.
I think it was her parents but the potion didnt just affect her mom but also her because she could have gained the love potions effects to use the powers of it as her own and she probley didnt know about it until later or never found out who her parents are because of the potion and celestia took her in
Ok so if we think about this the princesses don’t just learn this Magic, it’s special that’s what makes them magical it’s that no one else can do what they can do. So are we thinking that after the potion wore off that it effected her in a different way giving her these powers and that’s how she got her cutie mark, so that is how she knew she was supposed to use love in a good way, but sometimes when she was younger like we she was babysitting twilight that she got flashbacks and she didn’t want to see people foghting and instead being in love , or maybe deep down the potion still sometimes effects her. Ok I’m done, I hope you read this
So Cadence had her Cutie Mark at the time she was shown as Twilight's foalsitter. Wild theory here, but I'm going to add on to your theory Sawtooth: What if Cadence was the Alicorn in the book and the Prince was none other than Sombra, and the kingdom that fell into ruin because of the spell was the Crystal Empire. AND that Sombra's rage and grief at the actions of Celestia, like you suggested Sawtooth, are the reason he turned to darkness, and thus is the reason the Crystal Empire disappeared in the first place.
But that would make the fall of the empire recent enough for people to know about it and it’s existence before it was wiped from the history books. Twilight had never once heard of it. Ever. If cadence had been the one running the empire, she probably would’ve been an older pony by the time she started taking care of twilight… would she have even taken care of twilight in the first place if she was that old?
Ok so i finally figured it out so cadence and the prince fell in love. The prince was the ruler of the crystal empire. This is how king sombra took over the crystal empire. Celestia and luna released the prince and cadence from the love spell and defeated sombra. Let me know what u think
The only thing that I don't get is in the love story the princess was older, and when Cadens makes the love spell she was very young but I LOVE YOUR VIDEO
I have a theory on Queen Chrysalis and that is that some time in the future, thorax and his new colony might be dying out (since only she can create new changlings) so theyll reach out to cadence and flurry heart (if they really represent motherhood relationships) and theyll free chrysalis. If she was their mother as well itd only make sense that people who understand those bonds would be able to repair her
I have a question.. it is said that dragons grow on greed and spike is small because he is not greedy but in the future we see spike is BIG so is...Spike greedy in the future.. I hope you make a video on this
It could have been where there used to be many alicorns but since of an alicorn falling under that big of a spell clestea could have took control and pretended that it never Happened and that’s why Celestia said that a birth of an alicorn they have never seen and cadence could of been to young to remember her mother.
Sawtooth maybe love is the reason why the crystal empire was abandoned for a very long time and the ponies picture of hearts and hoofs day are cadences parents when she grew she ruled the crystal empire and flurry followed her hoofsteps thats what i think
so if that was her maybe it kind of explains why flurry heart is an Alicorn baby maybe... or the ruler of the changelings just got married to Fury's dad shes an chrysalis is an Alicorn so maybe this sounds weird though it's just a guess or hypothesis😁
My theory; Candence is the daughter of the ponies in the book, which is how she can do the spell. Her parents ruled over the crystal empire, but when king sombra attacked they sacrificed them selves so their daughter could escape. Their daughter (who was a toddler at this time) was found near the woods. The girl was an allicorn so she was taken to the royal Sisters. The sisters reconizied the girl and took her in. When the crystal empire was brought back candence (and shining armor who she had met while she was with the sisters) was sent back to fulfill her desting.
@Quitted I know, I was thinking maybe she earned it before sombra maybe creating the crystal heart or something. But I do still think she is their kid, she was just born a pegasus
Who tf called her a mary sue I generally wanna know, so many fandoms consider many characters mary sues without considering what they've truly been through. For example the Wings of Fire fans consider Moonwatcher a mary sue because she has all the lost powers of her tribe. However she can't control these powers and often wished to get rid of them due to severe headaches and nightmares caused by them. We don't know much about Cadence, so if someone out there calls her a mary sue i'm gonna get my debate voice ready.
In the My Little Pony comics I remember there being mentions of 'the crystal princess' and there seemed to be a lot of lore that surrounded the Crystal Empire and Cadance. It's been a while since I've read them, but it could be something worth looking into.
Thought I don't think the mlp staff did this on purpose, I do support this theory. Especially sinse Cadance had a fallen kingdom out of no where to deal with wich was the cristal impire.
I think Candance IS that princess, and after affected by the potion, she gots the power of love, and later, she has been Twilight's babysitter and later again, she didcovered the true love whith shining armor!
Nawww then it's sooo wonderful that she got her Happy End 🥺
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3:43 this is a morbid idea. But the spells broken after a hour of the two not looking at each other. So what if the prince.... Died? From any cause That could technically break the spell...
I don’t know if this helps with any conclusions or anything but I have found out that candence is the niece of Luba and celestia so that means they must have a brother
I have a theory, what if the two ponies in the story where Candice’s parents and how the potion was transferred by birth to Candice as her magic, and she was born unicorn, Like stated they where so distracted with each others eyes they let their kingdom crash before them and so on, maybe during the exact time it was falling apart Candice was born and watched it all fall. Over time she was ignored by her parents and left alone and neglected young, but Celestia came and rescued her and gave her the wings as a gift (idk) and gave her a new life and let her baby sit as a job. Over time while she got older, since she was born in the kingdom before it fell, she was still a princess so she took on the roll and found love.
yeah no but she was pretty young when she did the spell on the couple. She was just a bit higher than twilight at the time and the love potion happened a long time a go so it could be her relative in the past plus she already had her cutie mark at the time.
probably you gotta think cadence kingdom was fallen but that was by king Sombra so i think I'm going to agree with the theory that cadence could be the princess in the story cause princess cadence has her own kingdom and that could be the kingdom in the story of hearts and hooves day and since princess cadence name is princess of love she probably could have had the spell even before the prince gave her the potion. but heres my question if cadence had the love spell before the prince why did she drink the love potion?
Could the alicorn in the story be Queen Chrysalis? Since chrysalis does have wing and a horn (Well sort of). And because of the tale she didn't believe in love and friendship and just fed on it?
Because pony Twilight and human Twilight aren't same person, they are not connected it that way if something happend to one, this happened to the other one...
My headcanon is that the characters' "ponying up" is tied to their connections with their other selves in Equestria (hence why it got turned off immediately after the portal was closed in the first film), so Sci-Twi has wings despite being a unicorn due to her connecting with FiM Twilight at the time.
In Equestria girls everyone is in High School while the protagonists seem to be young adults in pony world, the CMC are in highschool even though they are only preteens in human world. That world doesn't make sense
@Yay Yay I Didn’t Ask, So You’re saying if Twilight Wasn’t Ponied Up She Would’ve Came Back As An Unicorn? Plus That Was Meant To Be A Humorous Comment.
If you think about this and the long time ago part, Twilights brother isn't that old! It wouldn't make sense for it to be "A long time ago" if he isn't very old. Yes, Cadance could be in that story with another man, but wouldn't she want to love just that man forever? Even after he died?? (Just my thoughts though, i still think its a good theory)
I think they were her relatives instead The time she used thatvshe was young I don't think the prince could have been a foal who wanted to make the princess in love with him They are two adults in the picture and it just seems weird that a prince, who is a kid would be obsessed with a princess so maybe he and the princess are related to cadence We don't know much about her orgions or is she born a princess...
This still doesn’t explain to me how Cadance’s cutie mark is clearly the crystal heart even though she had nevwr even heard of it until The Crystal Empire. NO ONE know about the crystal heart yet it’s her cutie mark? How?
@J I wrote that: I thought chrysalis was the alicorn princess in the book but she turned evil: this is because she had the love potion but then Princess celestia had to break the potion's effects and as sawtooth said, she maybe separated the two from each other. Heartbroken, her only aim is to gain as much love as she possibly can and tries to take it from others because she was so distraught
I just have a feeling there’s gonna be another princess because if you look at the last season of my little pony well actually episode basically every time there’s always someone that will basically just the princess so I think the person from the last episode will be the next princess
I dont think that cadence was the pony in the hearts and hooves day cause even if celestia did free the two from the love poison then she wouldnt look a bit younger cause in the book the pony is like almost the mane 6’s age and cadence looks a bit younger then them in twilight’s flashback so thats why I think that cadence is the pony in hearts and hooves day
Who do you think the elements of Harmony get passed down to? If they even do. Even though the tree got destroyed, it still has a connection with the school 6. Maybe in the future they earn new necklaces? The pillars say that the elements are based off of their traits that got passes down to the mane 6. What if they get passed down every generation? If the school 6 got them, who would get which element?
Now I have a question about My Little Pony the question is can there be a stallion that can be a prince like it was a unicorn but then it did something extraordinary and earned its wings does that make sense
No I have a theory the due to the love potion they got obsessed with each other and then one day they had a kid but the Love potion affected that kids cutie Mark and they were born with one and not to mention they were born as an alicorn due to the mom's genetics which explains how flattery heart was born an alicorn and it explains her cutie mark and her powers
Well I see no other option because that alicorn looks almost egsactly like Caden’s and it it was over 1000 years ago when a alicorn is formed she remains emortal I meal look at celestia she’s the oldest alicorn being over like 100.000 years old so this is completely possible
Gonna have to put a thorn to this theory but the Alicorn in the story looked more like adult cadence and not like filly cadence so its more likely that the alicorn in the story was the FIRST princess of love for crystal empire and when the empire fell sombra took over.. so its more likely cadence was got the power of love either from A) a spell or B) from her cutie mark but thats just a theory! A PONY THEORY! THANKS FOR READING.
I think the Prince in hearts and hooves day gave the potion to the Princess of the Crystal Empire and they had a foal named Cadence she got cutie mark after her crystaling the Prince and Princess in hearts and hoves day did not care about the crystal empire and King Sombra took over and killed the Prince and Princess and Cadence was rescued by the the Royal sisters because she was the last hope of the crystal empire and later they asked her foal the brightest foal Twilight in the hope she would learn spells and magic from her and become ready to take her royal duties. The Royal sisters then defeatad Sombra After Cadence grew up she fell in love with Shinning Amour and married him and they had a alicorn foal named Flurry Heart
I think it was cadance parents affectwd by the potion.as she the queen disregarded the empire due to the potion it was easier for enemies to attack take over and forget crystal empire existed.and cadance is the after math of it all the potion between her parents We can't tell if the father was a Pegasus
Cadence could not be the same princess. While she was babysitting twilight, she did NOT have wings! Yes, she was a princess, but we do get an example of royalty without being alicorns in the show. Example being the prince that rarity tried to enjoy the grand galloping gala with.
No she wasn't her it was her mom and dad because her dad fell in love with her mom and she is the princess's niece so that means her mom was a princess or her dad was a prince and that would tell you why she has the power of love like the magic in the story and the story said the kingdom fell when they fell in love so the christal Napier had no king or queen and her murk has to do with the christal Napier her mom or dad was the prince or princess
It would be even more confusing if that alicorn wasn’t cadence. Because then we would be stuck with the thought that there was another alicorn that just up and vanished
Maybe,the prince and princess were cadence's parents and her mother(the victim princess)was Princess Amore and the fallen empire,actually the crystal empire and when "the empire fell" was actually sombra taking control of the empire as the Princess Amore was to busy in fake love to do her duties and then Celestia and luna defeated Sombra and celestia took in Cadance while tragically Princess Amore died when Sombra invaded.And as a result of the powers similar to the original potion were passed on down to Cadance!
So if we are considering princess a more as the victim...did kind sombra take over the crystal empire because she was in the love trance and couldn’t stop him...
When u say kingdom then it could be the people in the book are cadence’s parents they could have teached her about the love spell and left her in charge after they were seperated
Guys do ya'll remember when Celestia and Luna said "I never seen a thing like this before." When Flurry Heart was born? And Candance was a pegols (To lazy to check spelling) in the book? I think it was a different Alicorn, and that was Candance's great great Grandparents. Plus Celestia and Luna would have already been born to see or hear the birth of Candance. So no, I don't think that's her Mother. I think it would have been her or her Great Great grandparents or something. This is my opinion.
Wait..if Caydence is seen as an Alicorn when she babysat Twilight does that mean she became an Alicorn at a very young age or was she born one like Fleury Heart?!
i dont think the princess from the story is cadence, she cant be that old considering how much she has grown since babysitting twilight. and she was like a teenager then so i doubt she would have been having a serious relationship and holding her own kingdom before she met twilight. Unless alicorns take extra long to mature into adults too, i doubt shes much older than 40.
I just came up with something that's most likely false and untrue, but fun to think about
What if the stallion is king sombra? Hear me out; He loved her and casted the spell, not getting what he wanted, that could explain why hes so hungry for the chrystal heart. As for the horn, maybe it was the dark magic? We have only scene dark magic on unicorns, so maybe king sombra's horn is just dark magic, explaining why his horn was so easily cut off on his first appearance (remember the tip of his horn fell off?)
Now this probably isnt even the case, but the whole situation reminds me of ashfur and squirrelflight, especially what's happening in the newest books (props to whom ever also reads warrior cats)
Do you have any idea who the hell is Storm king from the movie? He might be the character who is not existed in the main story. (The creators made him just for the movie) But Tempest was in the 9th season.
What if the kingdom that fell WAS the crystal empire. When the prince gave her the love potion she was unable to protect the crystal empire and king sombra was able to take over.
You missed a part . You didn't tell us how cadence got her horn. She earned her horn by defeating an evil sorceress. After defeating the sorceress she appeared in the same place in which Celestia gave twilight wings. Cadence wasn't a unicorn she was born as a Pegasus. but after defeating the sorceress she got her horn from princess Celestia, and that is how she became an alicorn princess
Who are the original rulers of the crystal empire? Was it Cadence and she was distracted by the love potion that the crystal empire fell. (Although these that whole age thing where she looked real young babysitting twilight) Her power to “recreate” the potion could be like the theory of Luna’s splotch....A “scar” of their past
My theory on cadence isn’t really a theory and more like a funny realization. So when there was no Luna, and the crystal empire was still hidden, the only rulers were celestia and cadence. Celestia was probably a busy pony. Running a school and teaching her prized pupil. When celestia was doing all that, she left cadence in charge. We k is this because the Gaurds were used to taking royal orders even when celestia was gone. How many big decisions did cadence have to make? Could this be how she met shining armor? Will this comment get any replies? The world will never know.
I have another Idea what if the prince and the princess in the book was Cadence mother and father and maybe the potion was still in her mother and father which led her having the potion apart of her body and magic. So now her power is love or the love poison.
@Sawtooth Waves This is how I think it would have gone, I stated my reasons in a previous comment which I accidently deleted. But I'll throw in the important stuff here. I think that Cadence was the daughter of the alicorn in the Hearts and Hooves day story (I think Isolde suits her) Reason 1. Age. Although like you said the story was vague with the timeline. I'd have to guess that the story but be at least 500 to 1000 years old and although we don't know his age- wait (frantic google searching) As far as I know we don't know his age but I doubt that he is centuries old. Though even if Cadance was Isolde's daughter she would still be 100s of years old but maybe alicorns age slower..? I guess but it's still not solid ground to stand on that would suggest either theories but I still wanted to bring it up. Reason 2. Storytime. If Cadance was Isolde why and how would she have the same love magic as the prince? Sure you could ague that she learned it or was always fascinated by that branch of magic but I think that's too simple and vague. Soiler. Voldemort from Harry Potter was born out of a love potion a one sided love without 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 love so he was born incapable of loving and turned out to be a heartless killer because of it. Spoiler. Rapunzel from Disney was born after her mother ate a magic flower which gave her magic powers. I think you see where I'm going with this. After Isolde drank the love potion and fell into a false love or as J.K. says, an obsession, she had Cadence who wasn't able to love anyone or if you want to make it more tragic can only love her parents who are to busy being obsessed with each other to care for her. But she can controll other people's love which she does irresponsibly when she's young to try and have some control in her life. Reason 3. I don't have a reason 3 that I can remember. It's late my brain hurts I've been here for hours send help. This took me almost three hours to think of and type out then half of it got deleted so I hope you enjoy.
Isolde was the most beautiful pony in all of Equestria and many a stallion wanted her hoof in marriage. She was a princess and alicorn. She turned them all down. She swore not to fall in love as her mother, Etain, had fallen in an out of love with many different suiters going through much heartbreak. Isolde promised herself that no stallion would ever get the better of her. One day Etain and Isolde went out to the kingdom of Cozbi to secure diplomatic relations. Normally Etain went by herself but aparrently there was a prince Isolde's age and them going could benefit both kingdoms. Isolde agreed- reluctantly as she knew arguing with her mother wouldn't end well. When they arrived they were led into a fancy hall with dim lighting and a single candle lit table with two chairs sat in the centre. 'I don't know what I was expecting' Isolde thought as Etain left. The prince sat at the first of the chairs and smiled at her. It wasn't a creepy smile, Isolde found it charming. She smiled back and started to pull the chair out but the prince got there first. 'Thank you' she said. 'What's your name?' 'Amir.' They chatted, ate, danced and laughed for hours and when Amir said that that night had been a blast and he really enjoyed Isolde's company and if she would be his. When Isolde rejected him saying that she only saw him as a friend. He sighed and said 'I understand but would you atleast have a drink with me? To a good friendship!' He took out a bottle intricately decorated with swirls and hearts and lines that looked like words but must've been in another language as Isolde couldn't read them. He poured them a goblet each and before they drank Isolde repeated 'To a good friendship.' Some time past. Isolde didn't know how much time but she did know that it was time spent with Amir and that's all she needed to know. Before long they got married and had a daughter called Cadence. Cadence was special, she was born without love and therefor she couldn't love. The weird thing about her though is that she could still manipulate the love of others. Though try as she might she could not make her parents love her as she wanted and deserved and the sad thing was they were the only ponies that she seemed to love. Isolde didn't spend much time with Cadence nor pay her much attention. As far as she was concerned the only thing that mattered was Amir and how lucky she was that they met. Soon Celestia heard rumors of a kingdom that falling into ruin as result of neglect from it's rulers. But when she arrived she realised that it was much more serious than negligence. She came into the throne room to see a 7 year-old Cadence trying to catch the attention of her parents as they stared into eachothers eyes, not knowing nor caring that their kingdom was falling into ruin and chaos by their hooves. Celestia recognised the dark magic immediately and tried to pull them apart and save them from the spell but they had been under the curse of forced love for to long and it had become unbreakable. With a heavy heart Celestia turned her back on the false couple and took little Cadence under her wing and back to Canterlot where with many trials and tribulations she managed to cure Cadance from her curse too.
As for the townsponies of Cozbi, Celestia sent them to the up and coming town of Mainhattan. I also think it would be cool for Flurry Heart to go back to see her grandparents and break the curse. I can imagine Cadence forbidding her from going but that not stopping anyway and then after they have a mother-daughter moment that super sweet and nice and stuff.
Sorry for replying so out-of-contexty but I really wanted you to see it. I hope you liked it and didn't mind the length to much I tend to get a little carried away sometimes.
What about the comic with her and shining armor in high school, or are the comics not cannon. Even if they aren’t cannon it’s still an interesting story about cadence.
If cadence is celestas niece then dose that make Luna her mom or did they have another offscreen sibling, or maybe she’s an adopted niece? Idk but it would be a good theory.
It might be that they are cadences mom and dad and cadences parents split up and her dad and mom where not in her life for long and when she was younger she thought she could stop it from happening to anyone else by making everyone in love with each other and stoping fights. Idk just my thoughts :) Edit:spelling
another theory - her parents were the ponies in the story, and because she was possibly concieved because of that spell, her magic is associated with the magic of the potion.
I don't think that The alcorn under the love spell is cadence I think that they related to cadence And that's how she has love magic but it's away she wasn't always in the cord if you watch the full series and you would have known that she was turning into an alcorn
I kinda think that the princess and stallion might be Cadences parents. Maybe the princess was pregnant and gave birth to cadence while the love potion was still having affect. Therefore since love potion must’ve affected the baby/ cadence during the pregnancy, causing Cadence to have her magic. Also, in Twilights childhood memories, Cadence seems too young to rule a kingdom.Tho I’m not sure entirely what the customs are in the mlp world. I think Celestia might of took in young Cadence in and raise her after Sombras defeat while her parents where no where to be found? Idk, just an idea
When you were talking about how similar the 2 seemed I thought you were going to say that Alicorn was her ancestor, if that were true then it would admittedly make more sense with the timeline, because Cadence is depicted at a young age in the flashback, so how does she suddenly go from Full grow mare to Young Foal if she was the victim if that spell? It just doesn't work, which why I think the victim of that love spell might have been her ancestor, it's not perfect obviously, but I think it answers more questions than it raises.
But what if twilight's memory of cadence is distorted? since, twilight was a little girl at the time and usually adults tend to remember things differently than when they were kids
I think that princess cadence doesn’t want to show the way that she feels in real pony life so we had to try to see what the mystery is behind princess cadence
i think the magic that cadence used is not what u think it was .... i think, when she did the spell, she did that to make those couple calm and maybe she did that to make them calm and so they could fix their problem in a calm and better way.....
what if the prince from the love potion story was King Sombra since he and Cadance are connected to the Crystal Empire they might have been ruling it and that's how the Crystal Empire fell and then Celestia saves Cadance and Sombra saw that Celestia took away his love since in the story the prince loved the princess and then he went to get revenge and found a dark magic book which we could possibly connect to shadow pony but anyway he would get a fake horn made of dark magic which could explain why it looks different like it's fake and try to grow an army to attack Celestia.
... hMMMmM. It must have been the book. Somehow, the book must have told the future. But how? Who was it? Maybe the person who wrote was one of the greatest pony’s of all, Celestia. But seriously. How did she find that spell? Ya know, that future spell? Maybe, she knew it herself and wrote it. That prince, He looked a lot like shining armor. Shining armor must have saw the cutie crusaders and thought he might take the book. He took the book and started making it, and gave it to Cadence. But he never knew that cadence was already in love with shining! So, when the spell wore off, cadence told shining her feeling, and then they got married? Maybe that was what happened.
What about Princess Amore? A past ruler of the crystal empire..? I mean if u look it up they have similarities in looks and name. Also Princess Amore ruled like Cadence, just saying.🤔
I think Cadance is the daughter of the princess of the rulers of the cristal empire,that explains why she is always happy ,which explains her cutie mark,F.Y.I the heart is a cristal heart.
I believe the prince and princess has to be Cadance's parents because Cadance herself was pretty young when she was twilight's babysitter, her cutie mark probably represents love as her parents were affected by a love potion so it makes sense. Her powers are similar to the love potion because her parents were affected by it so their love child was basically created due to the potion so it makes sense for her power to be similar. I just don't believe that SHE was under that love potion but instead it could be her parents. Not to mention that She does look kinda like the princess in that scroll but not exactly~
Also how did cadence earn her cutie mark? and the Cristal heart is also in her cutie mark and if she’s the Princess of love then why is the Cristal empire’s people call her the princess of Cristal she’s really Mysterious🤔🧐
Cadence never says that sun queen [ I CANT SPEEL HER NAME ] WAS HER AUNT BUT WE KNOW THAT THE SUN QUEEN MADE CADENCE HER NIECE SO DUS CADENCE KNOW THE SUN QUEEN IS HER AUNT
Wait, wait, wait. I get, where you coming from, but can't she be the prince's and the princess' child? I mean, she was young, when she cast the spell on those ponies, which means, she hadn't have duties yet, which she abandoned, because she fell in love with a prince, then ruined her kingdom then be found by Celestia, then being away from the prince for enough time to break the spell then being an around teenage friend of Twilight. Just simlpy doesn't add up in my mind.
hi I am moonlight sparkle ,I think the princess who drank the love potion besides cadence is her mother, princess amore and the prince is sombra (back when he was good )
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I don't think she's the one from the story. Just like you think that Luster D isn't daughter of Starlight because Spyke doesn't even recognize her, twilight doesn't recognize Cadence in the story neither, plus she indeed looks younger when twilight was with her, what it could be possible (and that I'm not surprised it wasn't even mentioned xd) is that the kingdom that fell apart had to be ruled by the daughter of the two king and queen, and that's why cadence had the obligation/chance of being alicorn when she was younger, because she was already being prepared to rule the fallen kingdom that their parents left. Although I don't actually think the tale relates too much with cadence.
I THINK I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED! So, cadence was in Crystal Empire blah Blahand I think maybe king Sombra was a normal pony, and he liked cadence and so he made the love potion and things, so he turned to KING because cadence is a princess and all, and when thye got separated, he turned evil and came back for revenge, it has something to do with the war. Then cadence said: "WHY DID U DO THIS, I THOUGHT U LOVED ME" or something like that. THEN HE GOT VANISHED.
So my theory is that unicorn and pony was cadence's Parent's and as the result of the potion since it was so strong cadence was gifted with the power of love and cadence's Parent's where so inlove with each other they didn't do their royal duties,neither give cadence attention but only themselves. Cadence's soon took on the royale duties while her parents where so lovely dovely with each other. And from that Cadence's did do many things incorrect but she was trying and learned responsibly. But the kingdom was still falling,one of the ponys ran to the Princesses,Princess Chelesria and Princess luna for help and the Princesses banished Cadence's Parent's for letting tje kingdom fall and let their daughter do the duties (sorry if it dosen't make any sense) while they had fun,Cadence's was now assigned on baby-sitting the little Phillies from the school for gifted unicorns (sorry idk how to spell baby horses) while Chelestia and Luna ruled over the kingdom until cadence was old enough to rule again. (I'm sorry if my theory sounds alittle off i tried, and I haven't really watched my little pony for almost 2 year's,and sorry again for my bad English qwq)
cadance is celestia niece/cousin My theory is The Pony who made the princess a love potion Got married and cadance is their child thats hiw she got her power
I don't think it is her maybes it's her mom, maybe during the Magic of the potion the prince and princess had a child aka cadence so she had the power to spread love and magic
Do you know if there was another à la corn in a Questria that got all lovey-dovey didn’t think so otherwise we would know about her more than that vague book It’s like everybody knew it was cadence so they didn’t need to mention it in the book
Not trying to make sombra the good giy but what if he believed that he was saving the crystal empire though he was the bad guy and definetly a tyrant what if he believed he was the good guy which is why he returned again. He beleived that the kingdom needed him.
Oh no Sawtooth I think you have now made me hate Cadence. Why? 1. She forces love and forcing love is wrong, and 2. (This is the big one) She's basically torturing an entire species. she keeps on creating love and more love and plenty of love. More than enough and yet she won't even let the changeling kingdom have a single drop of love. Name one person/pony you know who does that who's NOT a villain. I'm waiting. Still waiting. So sleepy... it's 12 in the morning... zzzzzzz wake me up when you find a pony... zzzzzzzzz
I think it’s actually her parents 🤷 The potions still lasted in the mare’s body, so it could have pasted down to Cadence somehow and it became her magic.
i think she is their daughter or smth like that bc her magic is more like a abiltity like celestias sun rising and it doesnt fit with her age, we dont know her exact age but we can see it on her body shes just a bit older as twilight. but i think the part with celestia might be true since luna and celestia were originally the only princesses in equestria, she might have safed cadence after her parents/grandparents or whoever kingdoms fell
I think cadence mom is princesses amore and born at crystal empire but when somber attack the crystal empire. Princess Amore is used Magic to put cadence to part equestrian to make Sure her Daughter is safe
I think that the ponies in the picture are cadences parents and she was inspired by them to try to make their exact same love potion, then again I have no proof about my theory 😅
true but how did she learn a spell that is similar to the potion i mean the prince would not have just said "im sorry i put that love spell on you here is how to do it with ur horn" like who would do that??
I think that she was wondering around in the woods and she saw her parents and there was a old woman and casted that spell and the old woman put her horn on hers and she made her have that power do you like my idea?
To be honest this fits well but my question is what’s luna’s and celesta’a past I wanna know that yeah yeah we know about how she turned into nightmare moon but before that how they got wings or horns who are they’re parents?? Nine of us know
Don’t be rude minis dünyasi she probably didn’t see those vids yet, also I think u meant ‘none of us know’ at the end of ur comment cause u said ‘nine of us know*
in a Q and A session with the writers of the show, they mentioned luna and celestia coming from a land of alicorns (not equestria) and they were only considered princesses in equestria
Heres a theory- Did you notice when she was a kid... she was an alicorn...??? but what did she do to get that...? and why so young? was she born like that?? my theory goes like this- cadences mom and dad were rulers of a land beond equetstria. one was a alicorn and one was a pegisai. they gave birth to a alicorn. but then.. what about her reaction to flurry heart being a alicorn... would she be fine as she knows that she was born a alicorn.. or was she not born an alicorn? so many questions!! we never see her reaction to her daughter.. im so confuesed...
I think it is because it looks like AKC made like that spell I left it in the book she tried it first it worked and then a librarian gave him the book and then he made it so probably she had it for that or unicorn
What if it was cadence’s mother? What if the pony in the picture was cadence’s mother, and she was just a unicorn, and not an alicorn. And it was their kid?? And the parents thought cadence was coming in the way and they sent her to celestia or celestia found her?? and that might be how cadence was a unicorn, and she must have learnt the love spell to get her wings!! SO MANY POSSIBILITIES
They really missed out on the chance to make it principal Sombre, since twilight and her friends didn't "save" the school because they never met he would still be in control
My theory: Sunset Shimmer was born in equestria! She came to the human world. Google says that the pony Sunset killed the human Sunset. Maybe that happened to Principal Cinch too!
My second theory: Principal Cinch was a Princess in equestria. And umm she turned into a monster. And uhh she got suspended of being a princess.
My third theory: She's probably not a headmare or a princess in equestria. She is probably a normal pony in equestria.
@BugoyTheDoge your two last theories crash together. She was a normal pony before being a princess in the 2nd theory or after? (I got confused there)😕 If she was a princess (in your 2nd theory),then how she is not probably a princess and just a normal pony (3rd theory). 🤷🏼♂️
I don't want to sound mean ,I just want some clarification because I am totally confused with how the theories work toghter.😅
I don't think that alicorn is Princess Mi Amore Cadenza..... As we know alicorns don't grow old and.. pass away.. they grow taller.. So Cadance would be at least taller than her original height in twilight's memory...
If the story was so perfect that it started the "special day" then it must have happened a long time ago...
Hm maybe that fallen kingdom was the Crystal Empire and when the Kingdom was in chaos was the perfect time for Sombra to take over. Dang what a day for cadence😐 (and that would Explain why she was recognized as the Crystal princess? Idk)
Actually she was a Pegasus and she could always give love then a villain wanted it too so she attacked blah blah blah and she gave the villain love and celestia gave her a horn
The pony from the book is probably not candance the book said the kingdom fell not princess celestia saved them and it all worked out in the end and cadence was young when she babysitted twighlight so the book probably was written a really long time ago and your telling me that she was the princess from the book she also got her wings or horn when she was young
They maybe Cadence 's grandparents because when she was baby sitting twilight she was only a bit older so when the prince found the potion how could cadence be alive
I think those prince and princess were her parents because the princess in the book was to old to be cadence so maybe her parents were still in love when she was born and she got some of that magic?
The picture looks like cadence was young, but, WHY IS SHE AN ALICORN?!I mean Twilight had to have some sort of friendship magic to get her wings, but in the picture cadence looked like a kid.Was cadence born as an alicorn like flurryheart?!But then again.....Why were they so surprised that flurryheart was a alicorn if cadence was was born as an alicorn?
Well I don’t think so here is why I’m the crystal heart spell after she became an alicorn she got taken in by Celestia and because she looks so young I don’t think celestia would have trusted her with a kingdom
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Cool gil bee2021-03-23 12:22:11 (edited 2021-03-23 12:24:29 )
Boy something got into my head when Celestia was Daybreaker her cutie mark has a background like luna's.
theres a song on her backstory, i think its called cadence and the crystal empire? or cadence and the crystal heart. its smt like that i dont remember the title of the song
Maybe that mare in book might be Celestia and luna saved Celastia and after that king sombra had already taken over Crystal empire and the two sisters defeated sombra then Celastia found cadence after that luna becam bad and the rest is just history
If Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)
@Miniş Dünyası We should reference the comics instead of creating sourceless and meaningless theories. MLP: FiM is already ended with unanswered questions. To answer those questions, we should reference the comics.
@katitobyt Maybe Celestia and Luna said that so the Main 6 doesn’t know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn with the shock of Flurry Heart it might have not been the right time and place to say that Cadence was also born as an Alicorn
Well if you really think about it you’ll see things like terrorism, impersonation, manipulation, near suicides, excessive bullying, abandonment, mental illnesses and disorders, racism, segregation, destruction of public property, murder, scamming, theft, sexism, child endangerment, self entitlement, exile, gaslighting, sexual harassment, abuse, gossip, and discrimination. That makes another to the list. R*pe.
@Siro Silver let's not forget starving an entire population. Talking about changelings before they got reformed. That's like racism but with more starvation.
I have a feeling that if an alicorn is 1000 years old, then they get the flowy hair(cause in the episode called "the last problem" twilight had flowy hair) and some people think that alicorns have an extremely long lifespan because celestia and luna have ruled equestria for more than 1000 years
I feel like she's too young... she could just be their child. That could be why she had an alicorn baby because they did, but that means the prince and princess didn't know celestial or Luna since they have never seen an alicorn birth...cadence also doesn't say anything or interrupt celestia...
I Have A Weird And Whacky Concept. That Pony That Casted The Spell Was Mabye King Sombra When He Didn't Have A Horn.King Sombra Was A 'Prince' And That Pony Was A Prince.And Since It Was A Long Time Ago They Would Have By Now Become A King.And King Sombra Is A King,So Mabye He Is Full Of Grief And That Is Why He Wants Revenge On Cadence By Trying To Destroy Her Kingdom.
I think that Ali corn in the story might be Candace mom and after Candace mom fell in love sombra took over and Celistia saved Candace and Candace mom died during the rain of Sombra. What do you think?
Okay okay hear me out people what if it was cadences mom who was put under the spell by king sambra and after the spell was broken so he was heartbroken and took over the crystal empire where cadences mom would have been princess and the reason he is not depicted as an unicorn is because the pony who wrote the book was afraid of sombra
There's a bunch of other ponies we've never seen human versions of and lots of human characters that we've never seen pony versions of. The world is a big place.
this talk is out of topic but I need you to listen what I wanna say terk came with his brother and his brother became friends with star swirl and Scorpian told Celestia and Luna about terek star swirl didn't know how big the princesses were. now when Scorpian told princesses they were big. and star swirl was there, so what in equestria ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
The prince and princess were probably cadence parents or relatives she wasn't really surprised when flurry heart was born what if she was born as a alicorn when she was shown as twilight's foalsitter she was an alicorn that always wondered me it could be another theory but it's pretty possible
Based on cadence and twilight sparkles' last cadence is about 5 years older then twilight sparkle. And we know twilight sparkles age so we are 5 years to it then we have her age
Omg the prince is most likely Sombra just think about it it all makes so much more sense now Sombra is cadences ex lover and that's why he's so against her now
When cadence was little her Mother got killed by sombra then proncesses find her and they took her with them then Princess celestia gived her wings becouse she was a daughter of Princess etc.
I think it was season 2 final? But Twilight sparkle went to the crystal Kingdom and was talking about her brother getting married when she told her friends that cadence use to babysit and she looked in her teens and a regular unicorn
I think she was the princess of love and after her old boyfriend from the story well actually I think he was evil and he put that spell care didn’t even care about the kingdom
maybe Cadance was that princess and since she wasn't doing her job as a princess some pony broke the spell and Cadance fell in love with shinny armor and the rest of the story
I dont think so.... Cadance would be probably be a bit older than a teen when she started foal sitting twilight. So it wouldn't make sense to think she ruled a kingdom at such a young age. I mean, look at Celestia! Plus, if this is true, it gives more questions like, What kingdom did she rule? Where? Who was the other pony? Thats what I think.
I think that it's cadences mom is the pony princess story and the love spell came out with cadence so what I'm saying is that cadences mom is that princess in the story and the prince is her dad
Okay I know I am late with watching this video but what if cadence was the princes and the minced on that fell was the Cristal empire and that is why She rules the empire again
Maybe that candence is not make love but can fix problems in love as the two pony fighting and candence just fixed the problem with a strong emotion love
yah me too maybe those too were her parents and when the baby was born later when their kingdoms feel they both died and cadence grew up with a hard life as he said.
Hey this actually dose not lead to a dead end so I guess she can be the bc the princess has wings and a horn so dose Cadence and someone must have saved her or she ran away...
I don’t think that cadence is the princess 👑 in the book but the book princess is her mummy so celesta save cadence because her parents were unable to look after her. That would be a good story for her and maybe give her a reason to try and her love 🤔
I think well Cadence was born alicorn cause well, in the book the mare has a horn and wings and in the thing were the two horses are fighting Cadence has wings and a horn so I think she was born alicorn
when cadance and twilight meet: sunshine sunshine lady bug's awake clap your hooves and do a little shake. Pinkie promise: cross my heart and hope to fly stick a cupcake in my eye.
Cadence is adopted by two pony when she was little she save someone that is not loved she that turn evil and she got her cutie mark and c gave her wings
Wait wait wait hold up if that was her and she survived that long and barley aged then wouldn’t flurryheart be alive during the new movie of mlp a new gene?
You know I'm still courius what happened to A.J. parents. Because we know Who they are, but we never actually where are they or what happened to them. I hope you will answer my comment😊
The prisoners of the Alicorn I think she'd Roca potion a noun or a pronoun a pony and she like turn powerful and then every time when she gets a hard to anyone was yelling and fighting they can control
I was thinking, and i got the idea of instead of caidence isnt the alicirn but ita her mom and the male pony is her dad and thats how she had the power of love bc of the live potion
I don't know if you already theoriesed the fact that in human world Sci Twilight has wings but when she, sunset and rainbow went trought the portal she was unicorn. But if you didn't it would be fun mystery to theoriese
But wasn’t cadence like a teen/pre teen when she babysitted twilight?? And if it was long ago I don’t think cadence would even be born?? Unless alicorns somehow grow less??
Не знаю как вы, но мне кажется что Каденс связана с этим днем. Я не говорю про то, что та принцесса это Каденс, я думаю, что это дальний родственник или её сестра. Хотя ладно, бред, твоя теория лучше и интереснее
What if that princess is queen crysleys? She has a connection with love too and in the mirror world she is the princess of love .since there opposite alternate universe what if she was the right full crystal princess. Her name is similar to crystal too,her fallen kingdom might be crystal empire and the prince could be king shombra and his horn could be an outcome of some potion since it's different from other unicorn horns and so might be the existence of changlings , maybe they went crazy and corrupted because of the love potion, we saw other alicorns become corrupted too and cadence could be their daughter and they even forget about them selves ,who they really were ,cause that potion makes them forget about their duties ,maybe it's a effect of it not wearing off for a long time?
I think cadence is their daughter because if she was that Alicorn she would be dead or very very very old and plus queen celestia was probably a baby or wasn't even born when that event occurred
instead of her being the princess in the book, she could of been the child of those 2 in the book? (idea from another comment) her parents love potion made her have the love power. ?
no it can't be.cadence is not the princess in the story because His kingdom was full of joy when she marry to princess Twilight's Brother.she's kingdom Stays the same nothing changed
Nhaa, I think not. Because the princess of the book is more older than Candence. And the book is officially, isn't? I think the history of Candence It is not so crafted, but this is With the Creator of the history of my little pony.
Ok I have a theory ,ok so princess luna and clesstia is older than princess caidnce so hearts and hooves day is not the same age as caidnce so there not related there’s a Scene when caidnce is a kid and and clesstia makes her a princess beacause she casted a love spellb and i think clesstia might have raised caidnce because her parents died And yea
No it couldn't have been her because that looks like a full grown adult and that would have made her like very young back then which means if she's connected to that story she must be the daughter of the two also didn't princess celestia make her an alicorn?
NOPE she is perticulely not her the prensses frome harts and hoves Stan because in one of your videos you said cadence wasn't enough to have been her and you referd her to her mother and father hum was innuf to bring her into the world _ ...
hey i think i know listion firstly hat looks like dounut joe and secondly maybe its someone else or her alicorns live for a long time celestia looked the same for a 1000 years and luna her hair became like mist but we should be detectives and inbestive the murder of the posion.
What about the Prince did we see him it the story?
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charlotte quinn2021-03-23 08:33:19 (edited 2021-03-23 08:33:38 )
How you manage to play detective each time that I will never know you are like detective my little pony and Boom! Childhood ruined. EDIT-I MEAN IT AS A COMPLIMENT
I know tis theory is a year ago but I dont think this will work. If you look at twilights flashback w her as her babysitter, you can see the cadance was still quite young and not grown up, meaning her age cant be that far from twilight's which means she isnt as old as you thought she was(as old as the love potion) but this only makes sense if ponies age the same way as humans do but they dont. That doesnt change the fact that she was still young tho
Or maybe that princess was her mom and Celestia saved her but she disappeared So did the stallion and Cadence was born right before her parents disappeared and the princess saved her but never found her parents maybe that's it?
That's not true and one of them My Little pony friendship is magic episodes they show that cadence babysitted Twilight sparkle and that she was a unicorn at the time and she was in her teens so she couldn't have been related or had contact with a princess Celestia and princess Luna and how she became a princess while I think it's because the heart Crystal accepted her? I'm not really sure how she became an alicorn to be honest but if we go by the theory that they have to do something Noble to get it at least in princess Celestia and princess Luna's view then probably saving the crystal or restoring the Crystal's power got her to be alicorn
Maybe she is the one from the book but.... what about her parents? Maybe they are from the book. Maybe they use the potion and their kingdom crushed and they sent cadence to eqestria. But what if the book is not right maybe they where just normal ponies and they didn't do their tasks so they see their daughter cadence was born they haven't have enought for her so they sent her to celestia and celestia make her alicorn?
I searched her age and I didn’t read the whole thing I just searched the thing for the age but I’m just paste it here so you can read it’ll be in the replies cause I tried to do it but smthn happened so read it if you want
“That would mean that Tirek would have known about Cadence, which would presumably mean that Cadence was an Ali corn princess at the time that Celestia and Luna defeated Tirek i.e. before Luna's attempted coup against Celestia. This would mean that Cadence is over a thousand years old”
Actually no, your theory is proven wrong because when she is casting the love spell from her horn she was so small. She look like maybe she was 14 yrs old. No way she was old enough to fall in love. And why would a prince love a 14 yr old? Like she couldn’t be older then a teenager gping based of her size.
Cadence is actually that one inside the horoscope book her babysitter on the kingdom you know princess cadence is run for the kingdom is a God baby so Crystal Empire Jen got a baby got destroyed because princess because at Eagle Way villain bring the crystal empire to be all of the Crystal ponies to be not but never did a crystal members and then dad then the eagle ones not get away with this and then twilight and her friends
I don't think that its candecen in that story I think that it is queen crystals because if you think of it how did she became queen in the frist place they never telled else.
No I don’t Think so because then she would be bigger when she babysits Twilight but the to pony’s that fall in love with that potion made is Kayden’s mom and dad
!theory! The Student Sixs May be Letting a new magic be made the magic of Connection and the Student Sixs May soon be „connecting“ all Spieces in the my Little Pony universe
Actually princess cadence is spread love everywhere she goes actually I agree but I think princess Alessia is the more good than princess cadence because you have the power to raise of the sun and I don’t know what the Kilmer considered totally want to learn to spell book from hot dogs they from twilight show make a big Mac a dirty T-shirt will be love that’s why I think it’s crazy to me the so
Didn’t mean to do any of it because she is she didn’t have a bell I know it was like a young unicorn and I I saw the good person and I never seen cadence married with a person who is it like that because there is no such thing as cadence doing something like that I know this whole is more than the 🌎 And I am also know it’s a married of a pony named shining armor who is the brother of twilight sparkle I know it’s clear if it is she is she was a babysitter of twilight cadence yes she was clear to see that it’s kind of sounds kind of clear if you ask me because both of them really have to each others eyes they were catching each other and cadence was a babysitter in shining armor had a crush that’s why you must try to take more in fact it’s not him it’s not possible she would do something like that I’m sure princess Celestia will talk to her and she could giveScheelbecause she’s a princess of love doesn’t mean she’s she may cast a spell doesn’t mean she’s been in one in the book I know she’s a baby
Yes I things that is the elecon princess but if she would be then she should be in the book where the prince was then it should be showing almost so I think princess Cadence is not the princess in that book
@maci keeter weird I really don't understand but It can't be possible that the book would be connected cause in the EP where those 3 make the love potion and they red the book further after giving it there was a cure to it separating the 2 love birds and the cadances spell has no cure
No princess Cadence is not get princess because the princess and the picture and princess Cadence hairstyle is different. See the hairstyle before princess Cadence horn and The Princess in the picture hairstyle before the horn
It’s probably both of them it’s probably princess cadence that put up the spell no one knows her no not your backstory I mean it is my little pony it’s all about the twilight sparkle and her friends no one cares about you back stories of the other characters
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If her magic was a fake then why is she an à la corn in the first place isn't it for doing a good deed forcing love it's not good neither is forcing love to magic am I right
this is the stupidest theory- No offence but when Cadence did the spell she was a filly....older then Twilight but still.....And in the story how the Alicorn Princess looks grown well ofc she's grown up since a prince was in love with her....So how can a filly be the ruler of an entire Kingdom?! Ofc there's a possibility that the story was years later but before the wedding. This is more fitting but there are some issue I imagine.
Although I can see where you’re coming from, I personally favor the theory that perhaps the prince and princess in the story are Cadence’s parents. Maybe after they were under the influence of the spell they had her and somehow some of the magic in the potion was passed to her, making her able to do the magic/spell through her horn. It could also be that that would be part of her duty as the princess of love, because perhaps she also can undo the spell and therefore part of her duty might be to make sure that the potion isn’t used irresponsibly again. If her parents were under the effects of the potion while she grew up, I can only imagine that she was probably pretty neglected and maybe she wants to make sure nobody else feels that way. Idk, it’s just a thought, sorry if it’s messy.
She's a descendant of original Princess of the Crystal Empire. She also attended school with Shining Armor. It been said she turned hate magic spell into a love spell, and she gain her wings like that. The thing you should be asking is if Cadence was able to turn into alicorn cause she was related to alicorn and preformed world breaking magic or feat, does that mean Twilight has some princess in her family. Who knows, maybe Celestia is Twilight's great grandmother.
All Allicorns seem to have a purpose that makes them alicorns, Celstia and Luna were supposed to raise the sun and moon, very critical to the pony world, indicated by their cutie marks. Twilight, is the embodiment of magic, and friendship magic, which is also in her cutie mark. Cadence's cutie mark is the crystal heart, she was always destined to take over the Crystal Empire. I'd say once it fell and sombra happened and all of that, Celestia and Luna started planning to find someone to take over that responsibility, and that was Cadence. Someone who had the natural love and kindness that embodies the very essence of the Crystal Heart, she was just destined for it.
Okay, so I have had the question for a damn while, and I need help answering it. So when ponies are babies, we have noticed that they have these lifeless eyes that only have a color and a white dot, but when it comes to flurry heart, she was born with those special more adult-like eyes. So my question is, how do these eyes even work? Can you all help me answer this, please!
Now that's something I never noticed, the princess in that story was an alicorn. In equestrian history, we only know of 2 alicorns before Cadence. Its true we don't know how old Cadence is but it is implied shes not that much older than Twilight and a comparable age to Shining. Maybe that leads open the possibility that the potion was used on a much younger Celestia or Luna? Maybe that is why the two never seem to find love because they were scarred by that experience. Or at least one of them was if it was Celestia while Luna was trapped in the moon.
It certainly would not be the first time Celestial turned a personal tragedy into a festival. I.e nightmare night
Whoa. Mind. Blown. I'm not sure if everything about your theory is right, but there's no denying that Cadence's spell and the love potion are connected somehow. That animation is exactly the same. And the princess in the Hearts and Hooves Day story was AN ALICORN. I never caught that.
Considering that Twilight grew to Celestia's height within the lifetimes of her friends, Cadence can't be that old. Even with taking into the consideration the fact that alicorn growth is based on magical capacity, Cadence can't be older than Twilight's parents. She is most likely to be only a few years older than Shining Armor.
I heard the story before.cadance was a pegases lost in a village with no parents then 2 earth pony’s took her in and raised her she made a lot of friends and shared love 💕 and got her cutie mark then a sorceress who wanted all the love ❤️ and made everybody feel worse and cadance stood up agienst the sorcerer named prisma.And prisma was kind to everybody then cadance was teleported to a strange place she was lost scared and confieused Celestia made her Alicorn!Celestia told cadance that she will rule one day
Well, we actually know that Cadence is pretty old- because Tirek knows who she is. When he escapes he knows that there are 3 alicorn princesses, which means she had to be an alicorn princess around ~1000 years ago when Tirek got locked up.
Here are something strange. First, Cadence's name. Mi Amore Cadence? We don't know which is her real name. Maybe it's from Queen Crisalise, but anyway. Also, her Cuty mark changed one time. From the shape with big heart, to the shape with big gold bottom place. We've never saw that kind of mistarry.
Last, her wings! Her wings' color is strange. the bottom is pink, and the tip is purple. But when Twilight and her were young, she had just pink wings!!! DDan DDan DDan....! One more. Her horns and hight are grown up. Again DDAN DDAN DDAN!!!!
Honestly think it's her parents. For one, how would Cadence have love-based powers as a "young" filly if she fell in love with someone via a potion as an adult? It's likely that it's her parents, with the effects of the spell manifesting as magical abilities in their child.
I think the same way you do sawtooth! Also can you create a video explaining what happened to the creatures of equestria like the gem dogs or the green dragon. What could’ve happened to them?
The prince and princess could also be Cadence’s parents. Because if they are, they would have had her when they were still under the influence of the love potion giving Cadence powers similar to the potion. And with the love potion in her system, she could possibly have a messed up view of love, eventually learning what love actually is with Shining Armor.
You are aware that her FULL back story, including her courtship of Shining Armor as a youth, and how she became an alicorn. They are all in the comic series, and are canon as per Hasbro.
I still go with the theory from the book itself, she was born a pegasus, but sad that even her story have some loopholes such as her parents and how she knows the power of love by magic and even became an alicorn given by Celestia.
Sawtooth I think a long time ago before luna turned into nightmare moon , there was a problem in the Crystal empire .when sombra went to crystal empire to rule, the two sisters (celestia and luna) went to help and defeated sombra and banished him to the arctic and met the ruler of the crystal empire Princess amore than something happened to her that's why celestia adopted cadence (princess Amore's daughter) and made her own niece and made her an alicorn princess and also made her the ruler of the crystal empire than luna tuned in nightmare moon and ......... I think this is cadence's past I'm not sure but maybe it is and you're theory was also great one of this could be cadence's true past but I am not sure I'm still thinking 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔???????????????????
For your explanation on why she was using the spell once it was used against her didn't all add up for me. They never specifically said what kingdom it was that fell and so far we have seen the ponies go everywhere. And what would have happened in between the time of her being a babysitter and being assisted by princess Celestia. If the kingdom fell what happened to the prince did he fall with his kingdom.
I going to tell you a story, this story is the story that I think cadence had. Here it is: once upon a time, there was a little filly named cadence. This little filly wanted to explore the world. So one day she left her childhood home in canterlot, and started to explore eqestrea. One day she was In a forest, and a storm began! She was lost in the forest and couldn't get home! Luckily a pegasus was just finishing setting up the storm and was flying back to cloudstale and noticed cadence. He took cadence back to cloudstale and took care of her for the night. The next day the pegasus took cadence to princess celestia, he told celestia what he knew. Celestia took cadence in as her niece, after a few years of magic and a hole lot of love celestia made cadence an alicorn princess. And from then on cadence was known as the princess of love and the cristal princess. The end. That's what I think her backstory is.
I think the alicorn in the hearts and hooves day story is Princess Amore not Princess Cadence. Princess Amore was the former ruler of the Crystal Empire, that's where Cadence also got her name from.
Candence looks young so i think her parents were alicorns to look at it this way she is not suprised about flurry heart so i think it was her mom that was the victom and her dad that made it so she learned about the poison so she changed it to a spell as she grew up she thought using it was a bad idea so she didn’t use it anymore
I don't think Princess mi'Amore Cadance retired as The Princess Of Love. It's her "lifestyle" princess's status, and this is what she was born for. If she's retired as a princess of love, it wasn't her official title. BTW, she's namely the princess of love, not of the Crystal Empire. That means, in my opinion, that Cadance's magic is designed to bring the love to ponies. BUT let's look at her cutiemark... There's the Crystal Heart on her butt.... According to my opinion, Princess Cadance was born by someone who was a ruler of TCE, cause her cutiemark has a magic artifact from there, and it was there when she wasn't even a princess of TCE. What I think is that she also has the magic of love due to her... Parents? Maybe, Cadance was born by an alicorn, who was a previous ruler of TCE, and an alicorn (only by an alicorn or less possibly — by a unicorn), whose magic was also designed to bring love as well as Cadance's one. In future she got the ruler of TCE ONLY after she marries with Shining Armor, as perhaps Princess of Love was too young for it or as she needed a husband, who'd get the ruler, too. Or... We just haven't seen in mlp she was the ruler before that? I don't think so. Cadance had no time for being a baby sitter if she was. Mmmmmaube, she got the rulership because of the fact that TCE was in the alicorn sisters's control as the rest of Equestria, but some factors made them leave this empire or they couldn't cope with something and decided to make her the ruler as it must have been or return her royal duties. Hasbro has confirmed that Cadance was FOUND by the alicorn sisters. Where she could be found? Maybe amongst the North Crystal Desert? If so, why she was there? There were possibly that kingdom Sawtooth told about. Or TCE was even much larger before than it is for now (BTW, TCE is now a bit little for a kingdom, don't you think so?), but somewhen the rest parts was destroyed by something, OR have gotten a rest Equestria's part as a result of some political issues in TCE, OR that has other mysterious reasons... Maybe that theory deserves its own video, doesn't it?
P. S.: I'm surely sorry if you kill 15—20 minutes reading it<3
She might be a descendant of them and because of the potion it gave her similar powers just not as strong and if she was a descendant the what if the empire that fell was the Crystal Empire because it did fall and that could be because the ponys from the legend lost all focus on their duty's which could be correct, so king sombra was able to take over more easily, if you think about and with enough evidence the crystal empire could be the one that fell in the story... but that's just my theory.
Now I’m going to tell you another story, it’s about cadence but not her specifically. It’s about her parents, here it is: once upon a time, there was a princess and a prince. The prince had some interest in the princess, so one day he made a love potion. He gave the potion, it was actually a love POISON! Break time. Ok, so you said that celestia could have saved them but I’m suggesting that celestia was not around at the time, I think it was way back when starsweral was around. I think also that the prince and princess were cadences grandparents. Back to the story, actually you know the rest from there!
Wait I think I have a theory: What if the prince and the princess were Cadences parents and their kingdom was the Crystal Empire? Think about it the Crystal Empire fell and so did their kingdom and in the book it said Cadence was found in a forest so maybe a forest replaced the Crystal Empire why else would Cadence have a Crystal Heart on her cutie mark yes it was her destiny but maybe her being the parents of the rulers of the Crystal Empire would cause her to have that destiny. Thank you for taking time out of your day to read this!
Maybe Cadences parents? I’m not sure her mum was an alicorn, but it’s possible. When they got broken apart by Celestia, maybe the kid of theirs(Cadence), maybe Celestia took care of her, I’m not sure if such a young pony (Cadence) matches...🤔 The whole point could be that Cadence received a gift from her parents:)
Do y’all remember the caves beneath chanterlot? (idk how to spell it) Chrysalis trapped twilight and cadence in them in season 2 in the wedding episode. how did the imposter cadence or chrysalis know about them she says “most ponies forgot these have even existed” then how did she know they existed does that mean chrysalis is from chanterlot?
Some things are naturally hidden within the secrets of people like those in the royal family, passed on per generation. Chrysalis just had to find someone with the right information if she wasn't around at the time to begin with.
What if her parents were effected by the live potion and had cadance as a child, after the potion worn off they sadly forgot Cadance’s existence. She was abandoned and with inly being a young she didnt know about her parents and where they were.
What if it's her parents 🤔 an they ended up having a child that resulted to cadance so they wouldn't need to make a potion he could just use cadances gift to keep his love from dying at that result they both fell at there duties an ended up leaving cadance to defend🤔
Here is the story = I think There was a price who loves princess cadence so much that he have to give a love potion, he gaves it to princess cadence, those two fell in love they cannot protect the " Crystal empire " That's when sombra attack!!! , sombra rule the crystal empire, he also gave a curse, but then princess celestial hold them from seeing each other so they are not in love again, but she was too late king sombra have rule the crystal empire Pls don't copy this is my idea <3
I don’t know if this theory already exists but just in case... you know that Cadane’s full name is Miamora Cadenza well in the mlp fandom there is the old ruler of the crystal empire named Princess Amore and that sort of translates love and princess Cadence is the princess of love... What if she was named after her mother Princess Amore? Plus you can’t deny the similarities btw Flurry Heart and Princess Amore
what if cadence is that princess in the story and that prince is king Sombra. in my opinion it would make sense because the reason why Sombra keeps going after The crystal empire, is because of cadence...
Hmm maybe Cadence is the descendant of the prince and princess and all her life she was taught that that was how love worked and there was nopony around to show her what it really is
That's probably why she casted that spell on the couple back when she babysitted Twilight, she still didn't know how love worked between mare and stallion, or Celestia was teaching her at that time but Cadence still didn't understand yet
It was until she met Twilight's brother, Shining Armor, then she began to fully understand how romantic love worked
She probably learned family and friendship love from babysitting Twilight and communicating with her and Shining's parents too as a bonus
I think it’s because she was a little shy and then she got the love and then when she drink the love potion it affected her horn that’s how she made her room like love and that’s how it’s the same ability
I don’t think this theory could be possible first of if you look at when twilight first became a alicorn she just looked like a normal she was the same height as any other pony around her age but a few episodes later you can see that she has become a bit taller than they usual pony then her stomach area seems to became like flatter irk how to describe it. Then you look back to when cadance foalsits twilight she looks the average height or even shorter and her stomach area is still like normal less flat whatvr this indicates that she most likely recently became alicorn probably a little before she started foal sitting twilight. Secondly when looking to cadance now and her when she was foal sitting twilight you can see that her appearance has changed after 14 or so years after foal sitting twilight and when looking back to the hearts and hooves day episode twilight says that this love poison thing happened a long time ago and looking at te image in the book that shows the ingredients you can see that the princess has alrdy gone through these stages. And if celestia did save cadance from this poison and made her foal sit little kids I didn’t think that she would have to foal sit kids for at least 100yrs or so and celestia couldn’t have saved her only a short amount of time before she started foal sitting twilight that doesn’t seem that the prince would live that long and the reason why I’m mentioning the prince is that he is just a regular earth pony probably meaning that he could live as long as alicorns and once the prince die I think that the poison would wear off and cadance wouldn’t be under the influence of the poison and these are some of the resins why this theory couldn’t possibly be true.
I think I know where it was in the Crystal Empire when she was a child because if Celestia found out what happened to her parents she would help her take gain of 𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐝𝐨𝐦 because it wasn't mentioned til season three but for her to have those powers 𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐦𝐨𝐦 had to be prengant 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐂𝐚𝐧𝐞𝐝𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞
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David Williams2021-03-18 19:49:00 (edited 2021-03-18 19:50:18 )
Me and my friends have a more disturbing idea during that loves the scene in that Twilight cadence flashback. Insta back it up my friends and I can't help but think that what if those two families were actually siblings
No no no no no NO! Seriously do you even read the comics!? From what the comics suggest about cadence looking very much like Princess Amore, (the "first" crystal princess of the Crystal Empire), I think it's very plausible that she's Princess Amore's long lost DAUGHTER, not some long ago alicorn princess that she doesn't even look like!
I did some studies on this and cadence is that princess, plus because The prince Did the spell to cadence maybe it was too strong and made love what cadence is!
I guess the price and princess in the hearts and hoves day is their parents and her mom saved her from her father because she is a Pegasus who can normally spread love and raised by two Earth poneys Soo I guess princess Celestia turned her for a reason and cadence was turned into a alicorn after luna was banished to the Moon sooo that makes sense right?...right....?
I think that the unknown pony is cadence’s mother then once she had the potion it some how got pass down to cadence . I say this because hearts and hooves day was most likely started before cadence was born to have been written in a book that twilight would read and much less enjoy. I think this would work as we don’t know much about her family other than shining armour and flurry heart. It could be once her kingdom fell princess celestia went there and took cadence so she would not need to live a childhood of knowing that her father had caused their kingdom to fall.
I really highly doubt that Sombra was her father, the pony in the story looks nothing like him. Could be though because that was FAKE love. TRUE love might have been found after Celestia broke the spell. Guess what? Celestia may not have been around at the time, this could have happened way back when Starswirl was around, I remember one of the sisters saying that they were actually young. And also, I doubt that both of them were her parents. See, the princess was an alicorn. Hope you realize what I'm getting to, and Celestia and Luna are both not her mother, clearly there were no other alicorns at the time of her birth. So, I agree with Sawtooth that the princess was definitely Cadence. And yes, it doesn't look like her, but it does look like a drawing.
Cadence is actually 21 years old, but there's a chance that shes thousands years old. Princess Cadence was a member of the royal family before the war between the Zebra Empire and Equestria. ... She was an old friend of Twilight Sparkle and the niece of the princesses Celestia and Luna...
What if cadence is actually an born alicorn and that’s why she also could give birth to an alicorn? The reason no one knew that was her parents was the rulers of the Crystal empire and her parents was the once getting the love poisen? And they had her while they were under the spell so she got the powers? And when the empire fell for king sombra celestria rescued cadence from him and her parents?
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AJ chìllí2021-03-14 10:31:54 (edited 2021-03-14 10:50:08 )
Wait....what if that was sambra? Sambra was the one who made that love potion And they both fell in love....But sambra has a horn and that stallion in the book doesn't have one But sambra's horn is unique Its out of the ordinary, But another thing When rarity was explaining about her favorite legend about mist mane Mist mane also had that same kind of bendy horn And so did all the other unicorns in that story But that was over a 1000 years ago Something doesn't feel right- The crystal empire was brought down by sambra because of his need of the crystal heart- But princess celestial and Luna, banished the empire right? What if this is a revenge story- ............. This is giving me a head ache-
Or maybe! That alicorn in the book is actually cadances mother! They had a kida and that was cadence, and celestia found put about it And since the kingdom was falling apart She gave cadence the responsibility of the empire And since she was given birth with both the pony's having a love potion in there bloodline She might have had that kind magic within her when she was born- But didn't cadence only had wings- Right? Or nah- and that's just fan fiction- But if cadence did really only had wings and celestia made her into an alicorn Then it would probably would be a reason for her to get better control with the love magic thing within her,
Wait another thing- If that made in the book is an alicorn Then why the hell did celestia say that flurry heart is the first alicorn to be born as one- And also in the book, the mare is a grown pony While we can see cadance as a foul in the show
It might sound dumb, but what else can you expect from a 12 year old- qnq
I also think that maybe they are cadences parents? and due to the love curse between the two cadence was born with love powers as effects from the potion and maybe somehow that love potion transferred its magic into cadence
Oooorrrr they could be Cadences parents i mean if she gave birth to an alicorn maybe her mother gave birth to Cadence, and she and her mother where both born alicorns.
Maybe the reason she is known as the Princess of love is because the love potion was carried into her blood, that's why she is able to cast that spell and knows so much about it.
my brain is saying that Cadence is the child of the victim
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Ryan Pheasey2021-03-14 10:34:59 (edited 2021-03-14 10:36:04 )
I honestly doubt that that princess is Cadence. If it was, the prince would be a unicorn and Shining armour. If Cadence was that princess, then she WOULDN’T be so in love with Shining armour. Her prince would be a earth pony. I think that the potion was so strong that the prince and the princess would have had a child. I think that the prince and princess are Cadences mother and father. How she became a alicorn is still unknown. We can only go off the book. I think her mother might have teached her love spells maybe seeing as cadence is the princess of love.
I love ur vids Sawtooth keep it up ❤️❤️❤️ (secretly hoping we get a face reveal soon 😂👉👈)
I just noticed that this was an alicorn, so that means that there have to be more alicorns, if this isn't caidens (sorry I don't know how to spell her name)
Question: if Gen 5 is connected to gen 4 how come there are no windigos? Doesn’t the windigos show up if the ponies are not working together? Or is just a old myth?
I just watched ur video about the star swirl theory then gave me a theory that will kinda well u will know when i say it ok if u watch the episode crystal empire 1 and 2 u might realize that princess Celestia when she explains the test she mentions “if you pass the test you will go to the next level of ur studies” so i think star swirl saw how worthy luna and celestia to be alicorns but bc u may have saw the book well the star swirl book luna and celestia that were levitating if thats what u call it i think star swirl told luna and celestia to be in charge of alicorns and you know the rest
Mabe it's her mom because love mabe traveled through her horn once the mom was sperated that's my theory and then cadence was born and she controlled the power
This is a very good explanation. Up until this point I never really liked Cadence, she was insignificant enough that the show would easily have gone on without her.
But this is really good, now we just add some kind of connection between her and Princess Amore and the Crystal Empire and she’s a full blown interesting character!
okay but didn't you say that King Sombra and Queen Chrysalis formerly ruled? And that Queen Chrysalis was the p r i n c e s s / q u e e n o f l o v e ? But wait King Sombra has a horn. Damn.
If princess Caden was the pony with the love spell who did the stallion because it can't be signing armor right 😕
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Anii Saddler2021-03-18 00:00:50 (edited 2021-03-18 00:06:18 )
Does this mean princess Caden was love someone before signing armor and did she cast the love spell on him but it got out of control this must mean why she don't like talking about her past because and bring her same!. Poor princess cadence with does this mean princess Caden roll over a another kingdom?OMG😰😱😲😬
Welllllllllll i have an question ok for now we will make Cadence that unknown princess but who was the prince? And I think because cadences past was bad and sad is that is why now she is know as memory cadences just to hide her past? As u shown about cadences in the marriage of shinning amour was taken to a spell but when Cadence was crying it felt like she didn't Wanted to lose shinning amour like she did with the before with the unknown prince😔
maybe that pony on the book is Princess Cadance's mom and dad!
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FK 262021-03-14 13:30:28 (edited 2021-03-14 13:31:17 )
I don't think that Cadence that pony from the love story, for many reasons. First In all history of mlp there was only 5 alicorns: Celestia, luna,twilight, Cadence and flurry heart. It's can't be twilight or flurry definitely. And it's not Luna cuz she still was on the moon in that time. And it is not Cadence, because in the flashback from twilight childhood, Cadence was like 12 years old ,even if she is alicorn it's can't be that she was that princess, she was too young! Yes Cadence past one of the most greatest secret in mlp ,some says she princess amore great daughter, some says that she the one who could escape from the crystal empire by some magical experiment which was made to free crystal empire from king sombra spell,and after that Cadence was found by Celestia. (That my theory by the way) But still maybe her past was just like twilight life? She was a gifted Unicorn, who became Celestias student and eventually became a princess?
Hey Sawtooth, seeing stuff about the recent info about g5, it would be cool to hear your thoughts about it so far, it could be an interesting video topic ;)
Ooh maybe the pony in the book is cadance mother and the spell has lasting effects which explains the magic she has the only thing is.. She would be born a alicorn which never happend before flurry heart..
I think she is not because in the picture, that alicorn looks old like an adult and when cadance cast the spell she was a kid maybe it was her mom or grandmother
its cadances parents cuz she could not remarrie cuz she would know that love hurt her kingdom. she could never trust love agian. like in princess bride. SHE said " i will never love agian".
If he didn’t actually do love Princess did you did you get so used to them to the spell that got like I mean the potion a cut on her and then she started doing it herself but spells instead of potions
Hi just thought of this idk if you have done a vid on this but here it is so we have the mane 6 pinkie pie, twilight sparkle, apple jack, rainbow dash, flutter shy and rarity all have 2 names but... rarity can you do a Theory? PLEASE
If there is a version of Twilight Sparkle in the human world and Sunset Shimmer comes from the pony wrold would there be a humen version of her and would we meet her
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Felix the Cat2021-03-16 18:44:01 (edited 2021-03-16 18:44:19 )
Because they are ponys can you call it filly sitting instead of baby sitting
...I don't know whether to explode my brain or to become a pony myself and find out...............................................................................................................................................................................
Is it me or does that pony look like joe from the grand galloping gala and mmmystery? If u still have no clue what I am talkin about it’s that donut pony
I think she is the daughter and that why she have that power his mother was the lady and she leave her kingdom and that’s why the king sombra take the place
it can not be cadens because the mare in the story is much older than cadens was when twi was with her also cadens was not born befor the first harts and hoves day
A pony who hate love one day the pony drain all the love cadence was a pegausu she try to reason with her but then idea she told something to her her evil heart broke a then she was reform that when cadence was form into a allicon but the pony who hate we don't know fun fact before celestia was a earth pony
Most people think that it's her parent or relatives but let's not forget that the princess in the story is an alicorn so that just messed up those theories and I can back up that there is no alicorn civilization since.... "the birth of an alicorn is beyond even our understanding"
Ikr! Celestia said that flurry heart is the first alicorn born in history So that can't be cadences mom- But who know, celestia and Luna might be keeping this is a secret to the public? TvT
No no no she I think she has a long time ago a witch has passed a bell and she tried to make somebody in love and then they would break up very very very very fast and Kate said it know that that so along time ago I guess he that guy was twilight brother a.k.a. toiletsBig brother
I think it's har mom maybe she gate har magic from the poshan because har mom was in the spal and she got the spals magic and I have a prof we now har mom but we don't now har dad because har mom was free so she divorce with the man and that's why we didn't see him so what's your suggestions about my thoughts
Will you be someone else to look like Kayden but doesn’t end well call me that now on unicorn wallboard me being somebody else’s love one because there’s a wink of old so that will just call us so yeah but can you change every day of loving show Hayden I’m going to write my birthday party and where is my lovely boy and then say you have a magic love magic and that I am good damn real love you Debbie so yeahI think of kin
Dad just got off my work so I’m not sure what time to do the work yet but I’m going on the phone number and now I’m trying my hardest thing for my phone and my dad and dad to come back and get my stuff ready and then then I’ll make a phone with you guys to make it happen I don’t need you guys I just hate it when you guys get out a lot lol I just got home so I’m going on my phone and I don’t think so I don’t need anything to help me with my phone number so I’m not going on my computer lol I love how I am and I’m sorry 😣
I like the idea of Cadence being tied to the Hearts and Hooves day situation, but I'd like to offer an alternative reason why Cadence used that magic and why Cadence isn't entirely under its control. Cadence is the princess of the Crystal Empire. If Cadence was tied to the Crystal Empire from the start, perhaps the Crystal Heart absorbed most of the love potion's effects and allows the Crystal Ponies to share the spell's effects.
When Cadence was babysitting for Twilight, she would have been nowhere near the Crystal Heart. If she had too much of the energy in her that she would otherwise be routing through the Crystal Heart, perhaps she had to keep an eye out for situations where she could release a little bit of the spell.
I've just always considered the book explanation to be the closest thing we have to a cannon Cadence backstory. It's a neat story, because it shows that pegasi can also become alicorns. Cadence was born a Pegasus and was orphaned at a young age. She was found an taken in by an Earth Pony family. That being said, we don't know who her actual parents were. Maybe they were the ponies from the love potion story.
Hey Sawtooth I’m glad you bought up Cadence’s past because I’m trying connecting the dots about her and Princess Mi Amore. I been thinking about this for some time since The Crystal Empire came back. I’m also thinking Cadence is related to the Princess although she was a unicorn in the comics but I’m putting my two bits in and saying that Cadence and Mi Amore are mother and daughter. This has been driving me crazy ever since that episode. May be you have an opinion on this
I'm pretty sure Cadence nor any of her relatives were affected by the love potion, but instead she tried to make a weaker version of the potion with her magic.
My theory on Cadence's spell is that after a brief period of lovey-dovey nonsense, the ponies in question are calm enough to actually talk things out; we just don't see it because either she and Twilight walked off before it happened and Cadence explained herself later or Twilight didn't think it was relevant to her story. If she was the princess from the tale, my theory could still work with Cadence creating a spell that did what damaged her but in a more productive manner; fitting for the Alicorn of Love.
I suggest that back then, Cadence was younger and didn't know how to help couples by using her magic to help them see eye to eye, rather just make them focus on their love. Now, I suppose Cadence is more responsible and knows how to use her magic without basically putting a love spell on every problem she sees.
I always thought that cadance was an attempt at bringing back the og princess of the crystal empire that sombre destroyed. The Princess then had a similar design to cadance as well (this is from the comic). After she was shattered some pony tried to gather all her pieces and put her back together. They were only able to put together a few pieces and out came cadance. That then explains why she started off as a peagues as the rest of her was gone and explains why she particularly was given reign over the crystal empire and why the crystal ponies accepted her since she was once their princess. Also the crystal pony princess and cadance have similar names.
Well I often wondered who Cadence's parents were. Curious how she ended up being raised ny Princess Celestia. Before the return of Nightmare Moon. Then being purified by the Elements of Harmony. Then became Princess Lima once more. My own speculation is that Cadence or Mi Amore Cadenza as it is her official title as the Princess of Love. Any ways I speculate that she was the daughter of King Sombra. Who was an evil ruler of the Crystal Empire. Which makes me wonder what caused Sombra to become evil.
And that potion affected cadence so she’s got the power of love and she didn’t know what it could do but when she got older she stopped using it to keep ponies from doing what they need to do
I'd place my chips on her being the DAUGHTER of the two. And the love related magic was the product/side effect left behind from the potion onto Cadence, since the two spells are dangerously similar!
I can't help but think that the prince and the princess from the story are Cadance's parents. That makes a lot of sense. 1. Their kindom fallen (the crystal empire) 2. This makes Flurry Heart's genetic, if you will, anomaly more understandable. Having a alicorn grandmother and an alicorn mother makes it way easier for her to be born as an alicorn. 3. The spells look similar because Cadance's parents were affected by the love spell.
You know I think when cadence was just a kid she thought her job was to TAS love spells but after time she realised that her jod is to spreat love with the crystal heart
I have always thought that the Prince and princess under the spell were her parents. My reasoning behind this is because in my thought process her ability to do love magic with stem from the fact that she was born through the power of a love poison. And that maybe she ended up being taken by Celestia because her parents were so infatuated with each other they ignored the fact that she even existed or just didn’t actually notice. If we pay attention to how the poison affects Big Mac and Cheerily they didn’t even notice anything going on around them when it came to seeing each other nothing got in their way, imagine having a child and then all of a sudden forgetting that exist because the poison of the love potion that you drank is distorting your mind. That is my thought on how she came into the hands of Celestia
Okay, I know this is off-topic, but it's been on my mind for a few days.
Because Changelings, before the metamorphosis, were feeding off of a specific feeling (love), this came to my mind. What if they fed off of a different emotion?. I always saw their holes as an "incomplete" body, that anything could fill them. Love may be desired from Chrysalis' specific hive, but what of others? I don't recall other hives being mentioned outside of Chrysalis's and Thorax's rule in the show. What if other emotions, feelings and traits were sought after by the other hives. After the metamorphosis, that was the end result of Changelings truly connecting with love. What if it was happiness, or hate, instead. What emotions made other hives whole?
That love manipulation thing is pretty scary to me though.
There are a few plot holes here though. One, Cadance would have been too young to be the princess considering she was found as a filly by the village of Earth ponies. Second, she didn't have a kingdom where she could of lost due to being incapacitated by a love poison. There is the Crystal Empire but.. would she have been given a big enough role considering her age? Most likely situation is either Princess Amour, or an unspoken family member of her family was the unlucky princess who got put under the spell which helped King Sombra take over the Crystal Empire..
It says that she was a member of the Royal family before the war between Zebra empire and equatstria and that she is also the niece of Princess Celestia and Luna Edit: Its been said that Cadence also might be 1000 years old since tirek knows her: That would mean that Tirek would have known about Cadence, which would presumably mean that Cadence was an alicorn princess at the time that Celestia and Luna defeated Tirek i.e. before Luna's attempted coup against Celestia. This would mean that Cadence is over a thousand years old!- I don't get this I mean it makes sense but why would she look so young in the flashback with twighlight
But, in the story it said Cadence was just a pegasus and got her horn from defeating that which who stole the love of the village she was in. But maybe she came from the fallen kingdom, fled the chaos before it got worse.
I’ve always thought that Cadence is the Alicorns daughter and she was born an Alicorn it would make sense because how else could she be so good at love spells she also kind off looks like the Alicorn princess
then they saw the terrifying form of adagio they had the same problem so they both decided all of them to do this massive however when they were banished the parents also did the spell but didn’t want to be cut so then they formed as ponies that you may see as normal
Not quite related to the video, but... I think that Cozy Glow may have inadvertently confirmed that Cadence was born a pegasus. Note every alicorn's wings, more specifically their coloring: Celestia's wings are off-white, like the rest of her coat. Luna's are navy blue, like the rest of her coat. Twilight's are lavender, like the rest of her coat. Cadence's wings start off as the same pink as her coat, but gradient into a lavender color near the tips. Similarly, Flurry Heart's wings start off-white and then gradient into pink. Now, Cozy Glow is a pegasus. Normally, her wings are a single, solid peachy color, the same as the rest of her coat. But when she turns into an alicorn? Her wings gradient into a deeper pink. It seems that when a pegasus becomes an alicorn, its wings grow with that gradient coloring, but if the pony did not have wings originally, the wings grow in a single color. Flurry Heart was born an alicorn, but she gets that from Cadence's genes- so perhaps she is genetically the same as a pegasus becoming an alicorn.
The magic that cadences long relative or Mum used could have been dark magic well cadence is daddy is kind of in the dark magic but when cadence was born and it was in her blood it turned good magic but her parents were still under a dark spell so maybe they’re still alive because our coins can stay alive forever because a fairy that you suggested but you said that it was not true because of Luna saying there were no eloquence born in a Questria before I don’t remember what you said but your fairy was they were born from a land that was far away from the Questria soLuna and celestial could’ve been anyone as our coins and it also included discord Luna and celestial finding a Questria together so they could’ve stayed alive a lot longer as well a lot longer than other ponies because in the episode where everyone was going to the gala for the second time discord told flutter shy at one point that he was centuries-old so celestial and Luna could’ve been sent she is old but can instead of not couldn’t have been the Alcorn because she is Billy twilights reimagining thing same age but cadences Relative could have use that potion or being affected by it and so STF forgot and cadence should’ve made love and then Celesta gave him wings not remembering a love spell that was caused all those years ago so cadence could’ve not been that À la corn so it must’ve been a relative but she still married that prints which could’ve been a relative to another equestrian pony looks a lot like big Mac but they don’t remember or even know they were royalty so the spell didn’t affect big Mac in the same way because in the dream with Luna trying to hold back the tentacles she was an À la corn so he didn’t have the same affect as cadence because she was already an hour cool from her relative because it was on her side of the family so I think cadence and big man are relatives which makes Twilight and applejack relatives and it’s pinky pie and applejack are really cousins that means that pinky pie and applejack and Twilight or relatives and that the alcohol couldn’t have been cadence because she was a Philly and twilights flashback when you tell the story I thought a lot of things about it so it couldn’t have been right
Ok yeah it makes a lot of sense but...what if that alicorn wasn’t cadence? That leaves the question...if it isn’t cadence WHO was or is that alicorn what kingdom fell and most important. What happened to her or even his husband? Is it another alicorn that we don’t know?
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The book doesn't have to be independently verified. If it was officially released, and the main canon doesn't contradict it, then the book is canon. And her love magic is most likely connected to her ancestry. Cadance is the descendant of Princess Amore, the original ruler of the Crystal Empire before Sombra usurped the throne. Also, Cadance isn't old enough to have been part of that Love Poison event.
If you changelings give love 💕 and change , could it be chrysalis mere added a corruption to the race once and that's why you all had a non rainbow form after hatching and growing, maybe sombra had an extra crystal .✴️
I don't know........ Cadence is depicted as a teen, perhaps young teen, while sitting Twilight. Making it unlikely, in my mind, that she is that princess. However, she was seemingly intrinsically known as the Crystal Princess upon the return of the Crystal Empire making it seem that she may well be a decedent of a past Princess. It may be that it was her great grandmother was the potion Princess and that distraction allowed Sombre to take over. The battle to oust him costing the Princess her life. Even more tragically, the potion may have then been a response to seemingly fading love as royal and motherly duties take time away from other relationships.
i still wanna know how cadence is celestia's "niece" when she isn't luna's daughter
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I am a person2021-03-13 18:07:41 (edited 2021-03-13 18:09:29 )
Perhaps the alicorn shown to us is an ancient relative of hers, maybe Princess Amore? We’ve never seen her outside of the comics and the comics are in a murky zone in terms of canon. It would make sense that the fallen kingdom was the Crystal Empire and it led the way for Sombra to take over? Here’s my idea: Sombra was madly in love with Princess Amore, the original princess of love, and used the potion to fall in love with her and of course the story goes as it does in the show. However, I think there’s more to it: (I swear this is related to the theory) when Sunset wore Twilight’s crown in EQG it still had an effect on her, which I believe was because Sunset still represented magic enough that she could wield the element, but in a negative corrupted form; same with Nightmare Moon (similarly to Amore, the canonicity of if she is a possessed Luna in the show itself is unclear so technically it still works), who became corrupted into an evil form; and if we go off of what we know about the changlings and their metamorphosis, Chrysalis easily could be the same way. Tying this back into the theory: perhaps Amore similarly, was corrupted by a “evil” or false love by the potion; and in order to stop her Sombra fell to the forces of dark magic, taking on a unicorn form (since the prince already had a knowledge of magic to begin with), and assumed rule over the Crystal Empire.
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I am a person2021-03-13 18:17:55 (edited 2021-03-13 18:19:22 )
Now this is a bit of a stretch but perhaps Amore’s corruption led her to becoming the first changeling, needing to manipulate and feed off of love to survive, as her connection with Sombra was severed. She could have been a distant ancestor to Chrysalis (since if she was also Chrysalis, it wouldn’t make a ton of sense since neither Sombra nor Chrysalis bring up any connection when they meet, however it would make sense that she would never talk about the guy who manipulated her via magic and then banished her). It’s kind of like how in Greek mythology entire species were created because gods got salty about something and decided to take it out on a human.
i had just assumed the story was from before the fall of the alicorns, or at the very least the story is less of a historical thing and more of a cautionary tale and whichever pony illustrated it was alive under the rule of celestia and luna and therefore associated the idea of a princess with being an alicorn
Cadences kingdom did fall. We didn’t know much about the crystal empire and how she rules it. And back then the characters don’t know much about it either.
To everyone who doesn't know this please Know that Cadence was born a Pegasus not a unicorn, not an alicorn. Base your theories on that info! Since it's important because that means she obtained horn magic through magic.
The crystal empire did fall to King Sombra the cannon story in the show is Celestia found Cadence wandering around in a snowstorm and made her a niece. So could be
Maybe the ponies from the story are Cadence’s parents. And since that their kingdom fell and the spell was never lifted Princess Celesta took in Cadence as she would have been abandoned.
The princess might be her mom and then with losing the prince and being in a spell her anger turned her into Chrystallis and cadences was saved by princess calestia and she was probably a alicorn by birth to but she didn’t remember and wait if calestia is the only one able to turn them into alicorns and didn’t made her a alicorn and knew she was one by birth why was she so surprised by flurry?!Interesting
Wait... Since Cadence is an alicorn and she came from another kingdom, then does that mean there are other alicons in the kingdom? Where did alicons come from exactly? Suddenly your old theory about an alicorn kingdom doesn't sound so stupid now, but just maybe they weren't all alicons
Can you also do one on the sirens because the sirens are my favorite and we don’t know the backstory every evil has a backstory except them there is one idea I have in my mind
It’s a very good story but in twilight flashback in the first episode of the two parter with cadence they both a Phillies so cadence Couldn’t have been the à la corn because she was alive long before Twilight because it wasn’t coloured and that ties in with real life olden times not having coloured photos of pictures so I think that that Alcorn could be cadences Mum or a long past relative of cadence
I thought Cadence used to be pegasus.. I forgot where I heard that but I remember her used to be a pegasus but got turned into alicorn by Celestia after proving her worth like Twilight did... I guess I'm wrong
I think that Princess Cadence can't be this old. Uncomfortable age gap between her and Shining Armor aside, She seemed younger in Twilight's flashback, and if she would be a centuries old alicorn, her growth would be already done far before that- Take Twilight sparkle for example, she was done growing to the size of Celestia in about 20 years. I think Princess Cadence might be a descendant of the princess in the story, or maybe the connection between the spells is just a coincidence.
So I think I know how this mystery goes I know princes cadence’s crown is not different but in the story it is and what if the crystal empire was her old kingdom and what if celestia saved the kingdom witch is of course the crystal empire
before the sirens were pony they were always having hunger nothing to eat but they found a dark magic that would be them they didn’t think it was that good but then one pony day oldest one adagio decided to risk herself just to do it she use the magic telling him no longer be cool us the pony it was known as a siren which is a myth she found two more ponies Senada not an area they were arguing about to get a toy this somehow fed adagio
What i think is that cadence was that alicorn in the book only the thing is the alicorn from the book was all grownup so i think celestia used a time spell or starswirl did it to gave her a second chance which why she was twilight's foolsitter :)
I really liked this theory, only one problem. When Cadence and Twilight were walking she was still Young. So that means I’d she was that princess she probably wouldn’t have been older then young Twilight. She couldn’t have been in charge then, and even if she somehow was how the also young prince able to make that potion without help? I’m not saying this theory isn’t possible and in fact I really want to be possible but some things just aren’t adding up to me
the alicorn in the picture is her mom Amora i did a video explain how this can work even how the male can be Smobra before he became a alicon and then reset to a unicorn
Or maybe the love story about the prince and princess, it was her parents in another land and they got a baby together and never gave the baby love so a mysterious pony took the baby and came with it to equestria and the baby is cadence.... and the pony left cadence and 2 earth ponies look after her until you know the book
This is reminding me of the royal family. Cadence as Meghan being a divorce to the pony who used the potion then married Shining Armor as Harry. Excuse me I have been mixing too many things to watch T^T
That makes sense as you know I’m the show they said the Christie empires returned and from what made shining armor could be the one who snapped cadence out of it so then cadence and shining being togother
Seriously, Cadance is probably not the alicorn of the story. First, she wouldn't use that love spell so liberally if she had been victim to it before, and even more, the rest of the story talks about Discord with thinly veiled words. So it happened at least 1 000 years ago, long before Cadance's birth.
And the Alcorn in the book is cadence Mom the reason she has powers is because it was passed down through her family through genetic re-construction that’s the reason that she was lost when she was a baby because the parents were too irresponsible to take care of her
If I am not wrong the student 6 elements are their own relics from their own home that’s why the pony six and the pillars aren’t the chosen one the spirit wanted to chose someone/some pony that is different!
I was thinking what about the book? It mentioned her backstory and her being a pegasus. But then again, that theory can hppen after she became an alicorn.
It can't possibly be her because here's my theory : ( it's not her mother or her ) because it was a really long time ago it was actually luna, let me explain it was luna because cadence wasn't born when the starting of hearts and hooves day started but luna was . A prince did it to her, celestia as her sister saved her ,separated those both then luna choose to be single forever because she thought the same thing could happen. then after a few years later ( the next day when luna got banished ) celestia was heart broken then a week later a baby pegasus was born called cadence then when the sun summer celebration came cadence was so excited for a new festival * she was 8 years then * after the festival celestia was going to her castle but before she was she saw cadence's cutie mark she saw her full face then she stopped her she told " what is your name little filly" cadence replied " My name is cadence your highness " celestia told her " will u be my student " cadence said so excited " Wait reallly Oh thank you so much your majesty " her parents were so proud. after a few years it was time for her to go when she went celestia said "Cadence!" cadence said " yes your majesty?" * btw she is now 12 years * Celestia said " i heard your parents died " Cadence said " w-what? " Celestia said "im so sorry. hmm here's an idea will u be my adopted niece?" Cadence said " yes " Celestia did'nt say this on purpose it was true. and a month later ( cadence is in ponyville and the crystal heart spell happened * the part where she saved ponyville from a witch idk i forgot ) Then celestia knew it was time for cadence to become an alicorn.then cadence said so happily " thank you your majesty " Celestia said " You don't need to call me princess,majesty or highness now cadence ,because now your royalty too. after cadence's coranation,celestia told her " I'm so proud of you". ( and u guys know what happened cadence became a babysitter then the canterlot wedding u guys know the rest )
( Ok guys this took me 3 DAYS to finish this hopefully you can appreciate it and hopefully sawtooth can figure something out from this story )
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I'm not sure it's what happened but it's a thought Also I'm saying thank u for the people who ACTUALLY even read this whole story it was so long xD Ok Well Bye Guys! :)
well we don't know cadence age, but we can see her age pretty normally along side twilight & shining armor until she is an adult.... i still have so many questions about alicorn aging :c
hard to believe SHE is the princess of the story considering if her aging is consistent and not sporadic. a long time ago she would have been a filly... and we see her aging to be comparable to other ponies until the current time of the main part of the series (where we don't really see ponies age at all like the cake twins or flurry) more likely she was related to them
I think the princess in the story of hearts and hooves Day isn't cadence what if she's cadence's mother and she ignored her daughter until celestia came and took her under her wing
u could do your next video on how long ponies live. bc in the last episodes of season 9 chrysalis says to starlight "now I'll ll ETERNITY to have my revenge you!"
i think it could be, what is if the Pony who gave Cadance, the Princess of the Crystall Kingdom, the Love Potion was Sombra, The Dark King, .. When Celestia broke the Spell, and bring Cadance to Canterlot, he was so Angry, that he Controll the Crystall Kiingdom, and the Kingdom was banned for thousend years
Cadance is that Alicourn princess from the book because she looked scard just like in the book and cadences kingdom did colapes it was destroyed when sombra took it with him when he was vanished.
So I’m not to good at theory but what if that is cadences mom and dad in the story and the reason cadences manic isn’t as strong as the potion is because the manic was passed down through her parents so it would make sense for it to not be as strong and instead of cadence experiencing going through it again it’s more she’s going through what her mom went through.And there so a time setting for when the story took place in a way because hearts and hooves day must have been happening for years so the story behind it must have been quit old as well But cadence is I would say maybe around a young adult for her age (guessing) so with that being said it doesn’t make sense that it would be Cadence in the story well to me anyway.And but only that even if cadence was the one in the story then once the spell broke they most likely would still be togethor and she wouldn’t be with shining armor so I just think my theory makes a little more sense.✨
This is only what my tiny brain was able to come up with It juts makes a whole lot of sense to me but you don’t have to agree!😁
Maybe the alicorn in that was actually taking his mum and maybe when she had the potion she calls to baby that was growing take care love magic and then when cadence was born had love magic maybe that's why
Please listen to me.give this a 👍. IN the movie the forgotten friendship when they pony-up twitelight gets wings and the pegasi gets wings and as we know twitelight is a unicorn so that means that twitelight is a alicorn but when twitelight went through the portal she was a unicorn so I don't know why 😢😰😨. please answer my question.🙏🏻
And cadence would’ve been a super young pony and she somehow knows what’s things oh now in my little ponie so cadence could have not been that à la corn because she’ll need help remembering stuff about the time and in Questria
You should make one where you figure out if rainbow dash and appeljack actually got married in the last episod. In the last episode you can see them walk in together and talking about something that make it seem like they are atleast living togher.
oh nonononono the official comic had a longggg explanation about Cadence and Shining Armor in fact they loved on first sight AND Twilight was involved in this thing AND DJPon 3 got her CM because of SHINING ARMOR and his band!
Or maybe that is her mum and dad and before that mum was a Winked at pony and before that celesta broke the spell her mum and dad made her so she has the same power just a thought
Dude pls just listen to this for a second. I actually really liked many many of your theories, but now it has to slow down. The "probably not real" book stuff is actually a pretty good guess. And I bet if you asked anypony who contributes reality to mlp (You can call them "Hasbro") 98% of them would say " There's a book for that. Read the book." And the other2% forgot the book exists. I am unsubscribing bc all of your theorys are just getting worse and worse.(I mean its not unreasonable to unscribe because of the fact that I don't care about any more of your videos any longer, but will still watch one if it comes out.) And completely(kind of) making it all up is also the worst ever. So here is the closest story to the truth: In a nutshell, cadence does something to make her the alicorn of love. She is transported to celestia's place and gets a horn. (The only ponies we saw that we know what they were before were a unicorn and a born alicorn. They said nothing else in the show and is stupid to assume that only unicorns can become alicorns and the show kind of "confirms" that anypony can become an alicorn if you look closely.) She is taken in by celestia as her niece. And you can make up the rest. Because that is not unreasonable.
can you pls do a video about power ponies I mean where where the real power ponies when the mane six went into spikes comic book is it possible that they teleported to Equestria and were the mane six its really fun to image but maybe its not true or were the mane six the power ponies the whole time but we just didnt notice....
Plz made a video on that why mistmane hair move as twilight said in extras shorts that only celestia and luna are one with floating mane , I know some would say she is a sourcer so why cadance , star swril mane float and why king Sombrero mane float . Plz made video on this topic and can you shout out my name in next video. Love from india , dehli.
Why does Cadence's wings have a faded color but the others are just plain idk about Flurryheart but why them Celestia and Luna have been alicorns longer then her?
Another thing is Spike's origins. How did Princess Celestia find his egg. Did his parents give his egg to Princess Celestia. And his parents were in grave danger they had to leave their son behind. So Spike would not hav met the same terrible feat. Could his parents be alive. Could Princess Celestia be Spike's mom or maybe Princess Luna's son. Can you do a video about Spike. Who became Twilight's Royal Advisor. And the Friendship Ambassador. Could Ember and Garble be parents of Spike? Yet there were no recognition from the two about Spike.
I thing cadence is there doughter and because she is there doughter she can do similar magic.and because of that love cars they stop takeing care of cadenece. thats why she is seperaided from her parents. because she run away from her hause. and calestia see the baby cadence. and let her stay in her carsel. when she is a little older then she can babysit the talented gifted unicorn. and calestia make her a alicorn. equestria's first baby alicorn..😘❤❤❤
saw tooth waves the great i have to tell you some thing in sesen 8 last epp are 2 no uni majic is there right well on the third day mjic will go away right then way dose princess celescta still abel to set the sun on the thrid day it makes no snense and the cryisly empire no crisly haert I DONT GET IT PLZ MAKE A VIDEO ABUOT IT!!!!!!
I think it’s more likely she’s that princesses daughter, a Pegasus who was born with powerful love magic, able to be used despite the lack of a horn. She would’ve been neglected by her parents. Then insert the book here.
As always, I very much want this to be true. Cadence was given a bit of characterization later on, and in the comics, but an actual backstory that makes her seem more real? Definitely something I want.
(By the way, "Cadance" is a persistent typo. "Cadence" is her real name, and an actual word. You can tell it is the correct version because it comes from her full name, "Mi Amore Cadenza." It's not "Cadanza," it's "Cadenza.")
Remember how, in the season 3 premiere, the Crystal Ponies IMMEDIATELY recognized Cadance as The Crystal Princess?
This has always bugged me because we never get an explanation as to how or why that is.
Putting this theory into the mix however, it could give context to something that has been up in the air since season 9 retconned Sombra's comic origin story and puts things in a shocking and sad context.
What if Cadance was the young Princess of the Empire over a thousand years ago and, when that Stallion gave her the Love Poison and she neglected her royal duties, it's what gave Sombra his chance to slink into Empire and take it over and, by the time Cadance was broken free of the Love Poison's effects, it was too late to save the Empire.
How is she still so young when foalsitting Twilight then?
We ARE talking about Sombra here.
Maybe, before Celestia and Luna were able to get to the Empire, Cadance had tried to confront the evil unicorn herself, only to be frozen in Crystal and, during the battle with Sombta, Celestia and Luna’s managed to get her Crystal prison out of the Empire, hence why Cadance wouldn't have vanished along with the Empire.
And by the time Celestia had managed to free Cadance from her Crystal prison, it having kept her from aging, it was Maybe a few years before Twilight would come into Cadance's life.
It would make a lot of sense and explain why Cadance had no second thoughts about taking rule of the Empire once she'd found out it returned.
For her, this meant everypony from her old life were back, exactly as they had been a thousand years ago.
This also would explain why we never saw any issues between Luna and Cadance.
When the two met after Luna’s return, Cadance knew exactly how Luna felt, coming home to a world so drastically changed from what she knew, with nopony from her past but Celestia remaining.
It's pretty damn depressing, when you think about it
Kevin M.2021-03-12 22:44:04 (edited 2021-03-12 22:45:28 )
If you are wondering how Cadance came to being. The books and comic already confirmed that she started off as an orphan pegasus, but became an alicorn after completing a task that made her earn her horn and magic. Plus they also confirmed that she was adopted by Celestia while Luna was still on the moon.
What if Cadence cast that spell so Twilight wouldn’t have to see couples arguing, and we only saw it for a few seconds, we don’t know if they tried to talk it out later or if it wore off quickly and the spell just calmed them down. They also might not have known how to sort it out properly, so the spell might have worked until they figured it out.
Also the love potion looks ALOT like a mix of Candance's spell with Chrysalis's spell. Candance's spell show a broken heart getting together and makes two ponies who was in a discourse starts being gentle with each other. Chrysali's spell makes the person "hypnotized", making Charming armour dont care about how chrysalis is not Candance, and the way that his eyes looks like when in spell looks like the eyes of Bic Mac and Cheerlie after getting into the love potion. The love potion seems like a more pinkinsh and dependent version of Chrysali's spell.
Considerating that we don't know Chrysalis backstory could that be connected to her?? What if she IS the Princess?? Thats why she wants to "eat" love?? I mean she is surelly different conparing to the others changelings, and she is the only changeling to transform into a royalty. She could just have substitued all the princess with her army, and then rule Equestria but she did'nt, unless that the others changelings couldn't do so.
I never even actually realized how the mare in the picture depicted was an alicorn, I always just saw the horn and assumed that she was a unicorn with the stallion being normal, but the videos appearing of the picture jogged my memory and that was the very same drawing-horn and wings included and she very well may be the same alicorn and thank whoever is reading this for reading the full comment.
I think that maybe Cadence still has the effects of the love potion and toys to help couples by giving a little bit of the potion to couples with her horn in order to get rid of the potion in total
To be a princess we know that you need to figure out a new type of magic which for Cadence was love. Soon after she might’ve been the ruler of A Kingdom possibly The Crystal Empire. And like what happened to The Sisters the kingdom’s ponies (The Magic From The All 3 Tribes) if they were Crystal Ponies in The Crystal Empire this might have not worked since The Crystal Ponies are Crystal Ponies. But if along with The Crystal Ponies were Celestia & Luna this might have worked The Magic from the Royal Sisters have The Magic From The All 3 Tribes But then she was betrayed by the one she loved and possibly that might have gotten her defeated and gave the ruling to King Sombra. Since The Royal Sisters stopped King Sombra they might’ve helped Cadence as well. Celestia & Luna might’ve recommended her to be foal sitter and that’s possibly how she met Shining Armor and then The Royal Wedding happened. And then she became the ruler of The Crystal Empire
1. Their manes are very different. 2. Hearts and Hooves day was created long ago and most of the things that were said to have happened "long ago" is like 1,000s of years ago. 3. Royal crowns never really change and Cadence and that other Alicorn have 2 different crowns.
She could've shown the prince that she could do this and the prince wanted to give it a try. Since he was not a unicorn, he made a potion to give to her so that she didn't use the spell on someone else. When it failed and left a kingdom to ruin, she decided that she would never do something like this again or show someone how to do it.
Another Theory: Let's assume that Cadence is indeed the Princess from the story. Since she is known as, "the princess of love for one's partner" she could indeed be this princess. Since the previous kingdom fell to ruin, she could've left him (or been saved by someone else), and fell in love with Shining Armor.
I honestly never even realized that the Princess in the love potion story was an alicorn till now. I just never noticed the wing and I've never seen anyone talk about her being an alicorn.
I think the prince and alicorn princess from the Hearts & Hooves day story were actually her parents. When you compare how Cadance looks around the time of the wedding, they share that short in front but long in back mane. The prince actually has more than one color in his mane if that stripe in his back neck portion is anything to go off. Even if it might be just two colors... “A long time ago, “ seems to be less than 1000 years given how ponies tend to use that measurement of time so often.
Okay, covering the basis. Who; an earth pony prince (no wings or horn) fell in love with an alicorn princess of either the same kingdom or a different one. What; he was so desperate that he whipped up what he thought was a love potions for them to drink, but it turned out to be a love poison. He might have been a shaman, like Zecora but less experienced, who earned his title through accomplishment rather than bloodline. They got so lost in each other's eyes that they stopped performing their royal duties. A dragon destroyed the kingdom or something like that.
The only way to break the spell was to get them from looking into the other’s eyes for a full hour. Given how strong Big Mac was in the episode involving the poison, you can imagine how strong these royals were that no one could get them apart without great effort. Their kingdom could have been isolated enough that Princess Celestia didn’t step in. Anyway, how does this connect to our current Princess of Love? Elementary.
Let’s say these two were so sickeningly in love from the poison they rarely left each other’s side. If they ruled the kingdom or at least defended it together, then it would make partial sense for them to do some type of decree to not be separated. Alicorns are shown to live long lives if not forever, on this logic these two could have been together for years. The only situation where they are no longer looking into each other’s eyes and probably well after the kingdom fell is if the alicorn became pregnant.
What if during the birth when the spell finally broke the stallion who’s probably well past his prime dies. Some might ask how could he suddenly pass on without the poison. Well, we have seen from the MLP show that emotions are a very powerful form of energy. Change Kings feed of it, a literal shield of the emotion sent them flying, hopelessness affected an entire community, and Starlight’s anger broke out after she kept bottling it up (literally and metaphorically.)
The alicorn princess now without the one she was with for so long and a foal, is left with a deeply broken heart. It was never clarified if she reciprocated the love this prince had... But, spend long enough with somebody and you can’t help caring for them. Let us say she tries to be strong for the foal yet as the weeks pass she continues losing her strength. Ultimately, she can feel that she is going to pass from a broken heart so she finds a nearby village to take her foal.
Hoping for the child to have a better future than the prince and her, she doesn’t leave a note. The child is later found and raised in the town of Earth ponies. It does take a few leaps in logic, but people can actually die from a broken heart so imagine how bad it is in a place like Equestria. The foal inherits a gift for love magic that only works on ponies who are actually in love as an odd gift from the poison wearing off. I would like to think Cadance was born around twenty to thirty years before Luna returned as Nightmare Moon.
I agree with most of the comment section. I believe that those two ponies were actually her parents. It does seem to line up extremely well. Imagine this:
The Crystal Empire was being ruled over by the Prince, the Princess, or both. The Prince had a deep-seated love for the Princess, but she didn't reciprocate his feelings (after all, why give a love potion to someone who already loves you?). So, in a desperate effort to have the Princess as his, the Prince created the love potion. However, the potion turned out much stronger than intended, and over time the ruler of the Crystal Empire stopped really caring about their kingdom. The couple barely noticed though, and very quickly got married, and soon after also had a daughter, who they named Mi Amore Cadenza, which roughly means 'My love, Cadence' in Spanish. A fitting name for the daughter of a couple that was so very in love, right? Well, the birth of the princess also attracted some... unwanted attention. A unicorn by the name of Sombra, who had gained a large amount of power, found out about the Empire and the fact that its rulers were so caught up in eachother and their daughter that they were completely neglecting all of their duties. Sombra, taking his chance, quickly invaded and started taking over. The couple, again, barely even noticed at first because they were so caught up in eachother, but eventually Sombra took over enough to where they did start to notice. Neither of the two had any ability to fight however, so instead they ran. They didn't make it very far though, and I honestly don't think it would be too far-fetched for Sombra to have either imprisoned the two or even outright killed them. Before he did either though, one of the two lovebirds, most likely the Princess, used a spell to teleport their daughter (and maybe also the Prince?) to safety, maybe even outside of the Empire. What happened to Cadence afterwards is anyone's guess, I think either she was found by Celestia and Luna or her mother also teleported her father out and they made a new life together once the potion wore off (or maybe he disowned her?).
But yeah, that's my take. I think it does fit, since we don't know who Sombra originally took the Empire from, and Celestia's first instinct when she was told the Empire had returned was to have someone alert Cadence, implying that there's a connection between the two that Celestia was aware of.
It would be interesting if Cadence was their daughter and the kingdom that fell was actually The Empire... I just don't know how well it would fit into time lines...?
I think cadence may be the child of the ponies under the spell. that would explain the “long time ago” while also explaining why she has the power to spread love.
I don’t think she is because when she use the love magic for the first time she looked younger than the actual picture of the love story, and if you’re going with the book she was found as a baby , so either the book wrong or your theory is wrong. Still love it thou💜
I think Cadence is only slightly older than Twilight judging by her appearance during the scenes of her being Twi's sitter. Compare that look to how she is now. Then compare Season 1 Twilight to Season 9 Twilight. Even she looks taller and slimmer. And I'm not talking about the final episode. We know she had a growth spurt in that... lol
What if she is the daughter of the alicorn in the story?
Here is my theory: She was born when the spell or the effect of the posion was still strong, that's why she "inherited" the magic of "love" that is so similar to the posion. When celestia or whoever broke the spell, Cadance went with her to recover from the trauma that she experienced.
This theory is interesting, but Cadance's backstory was already given in the book "Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell" (though its canonality is debatable given parts of season three that it ignores).
That story could make sense in the larger scheme of things, but Cadence could also have something to do with the love spell that Twilight put on her doll.
You scare me sometimes and I flipping love it. Ps I think its easier for her to be the daughter of that princess rather than being the princess herself
If Cadance and the princess in the book were the same pony then I think the book would have said so, unless the fact that she nearly doomed her kingdom was being covered up. Also if Cadance was around back then she would likely be centuries old depending on when Hearts And Hooves Day started, and yet there is a clear age difference back when she was foalsitting Twilight which was presumably around a decade ago.
Do you think Cadence would've influenced Twilight to be her friend in some way?! As for me I certainly hope not... I had become close with Twilight back then on my own, when she was having me as her guard, but I don't want to have to hear about something like that. 😨
this might sound a bit strange, but what if it wasn't cadence who suffered that tragic fate, but her possible mother? what if she was the fruit of that love provoked by the potion and she inherited some magic related to love?
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Hi Hello2021-03-12 19:54:30 (edited 2021-03-12 21:21:39 )
This is how I think it would have gone, I stated my reasons in a previous comment which I accidently deleted. But I'll throw in the important stuff here. I think that Cadence was the daughter of the alicorn in the Hearts and Hooves day story (I think Isolde suits her) Reason 1. Age. Although like you said the story was vague with the timeline. I'd have to guess that the story but be at least 500 to 1000 years old and although we don't know his age- wait (frantic google searching) As far as I know we don't know his age but I doubt that he is centuries old. Though even if Cadance was Isolde's daughter she would still be 100s of years old but maybe alicorns age slower..? I guess but it's still not solid ground to stand on that would suggest either theories but I still wanted to bring it up. Reason 2. Storytime. If Cadance was Isolde why and how would she have the same love magic as the prince? Sure you could ague that she learned it or was always fascinated by that branch of magic but I think that's too simple and vague. Soiler. Voldemort from Harry Potter was born out of a love potion a one sided love without 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 love so he was born incapable of loving and turned out to be a heartless killer because of it. Spoiler. Rapunzel from Disney was born after her mother ate a magic flower which gave her magic powers. I think you see where I'm going with this. After Isolde drank the love potion and fell into a false love or as J.K. says, an obsession, she had Cadence who wasn't able to love anyone or if you want to make it more tragic can only love her parents who are to busy being obsessed with each other to care for her. But she can controll other people's love which she does irresponsibly when she's young to try and have some control in her life. Reason 3. I don't have a reason 3 that I can remember. It's late my brain hurts I've been here for hours send help. This took me almost three hours to think of and type out then half of it got deleted so I hope you enjoy.
Isolde was the most beautiful pony in all of Equestria and many a stallion wanted her hoof in marriage. She was a princess and alicorn. She turned them all down. She swore not to fall in love as her mother, Etain, had fallen in an out of love with many different suiters going through much heartbreak. Isolde promised herself that no stallion would ever get the better of her. One day Etain and Isolde went out to the kingdom of Cozbi to secure diplomatic relations. Normally Etain went by herself but aparrently there was a prince Isolde's age and them going could benefit both kingdoms. Isolde agreed- reluctantly as she knew arguing with her mother wouldn't end well. When they arrived they were led into a fancy hall with dim lighting and a single candle lit table with two chairs sat in the centre. 'I don't know what I was expecting' Isolde thought as Etain left. The prince sat at the first of the chairs and smiled at her. It wasn't a creepy smile, Isolde found it charming. She smiled back and started to pull the chair out but the prince got there first. 'Thank you' she said. 'What's your name?' 'Amir.' They chatted, ate, danced and laughed for hours and when Amir said that that night had been a blast and he really enjoyed Isolde's company and if she would be his. When Isolde rejected him saying that she only saw him as a friend. He sighed and said 'I understand but would you atleast have a drink with me? To a good friendship!' He took out a bottle intricately decorated with swirls and hearts and lines that looked like words but must've been in another language as Isolde couldn't read them. He poured them a goblet each and before they drank Isolde repeated 'To a good friendship.' Some time past. Isolde didn't know how much time but she did know that it was time spent with Amir and that's all she needed to know. Before long they got married and had a daughter called Cadence. Cadence was special, she was born without love and therefor she couldn't love. The weird thing about her though is that she could still manipulate the love of others. Though try as she might she could not make her parents love her as she wanted and deserved and the sad thing was they were the only ponies that she seemed to love. Isolde didn't spend much time with Cadence nor pay her much attention. As far as she was concerned the only thing that mattered was Amir and how lucky she was that they met. Soon Celestia heard rumors of a kingdom that falling into ruin as result of neglect from it's rulers. But when she arrived she realised that it was much more serious than negligence. She came into the throne room to see a 7 year-old Cadence trying to catch the attention of her parents as they stared into eachothers eyes, not knowing nor caring that their kingdom was falling into ruin and chaos by their hooves. Celestia recognised the dark magic immediately and tried to pull them apart and save them from the spell but they had been under the curse of forced love for to long and it had become unbreakable. With a heavy heart Celestia turned her back on the false couple and took little Cadence under her wing and back to Canterlot where with many trials and tribulations she managed to cure Cadance from her curse too.
As for the townsponies of Cozbi, Celestia sent them to the up and coming town of Mainhattan. I also think it would be cool for Flurry Heart to go back to see her grandparents and break the curse. I can imagine Cadence forbidding her from going but that not stopping anyway and then after they have a mother-daughter moment that super sweet and nice and stuff.
I like the theory, but I have evidence that suggests she was turned to an alicorn by Celestia. In the episode "Three's a Crowd", Cadence tells Twighlight she herself was still getting the hang of flying. This suggests she was once a unicorn, like Twighlight. Maybe she was just in the love spell for so long she had to relearn flight? You choose what to believe.
i think your right but i also think she actually got some side effect from that potion so when she found out that she used it to save already build relationships and she become an alicorn bc of that
If this is true, imagine if King Sombra was the prince. We know pretty much nothing about why he's the way he is. If Cadence was around when King Sombra was or something, and they were pulled apart by Celestia, if Sombra had made the love potion it could've had a effect on him making him hungry for love something. Especially considering he goes after the crystal heart and empire, and both ponies came from there, and both were royal. As it is shown that Alison's are made by earning other tribe's magics (most likely), Sombra could've became a unicorn by making the potion ; it works really similar to unicorn magic, so it could've effected him.
I always thought it was her or somebody else don't ask me why but I've always thought it was a lost princess in Equestria somewhere just in hiding here's what I think is Princess Cadence that book you showed us really looks like her Plus when she was about Twilight was learning like she was before Twilight afford her friends before the elements of harmony there was a princess long time ago you live in a far Kingdom there was a princess in training who was that young and beautiful girl not far away lived another kingdom an in that Kingdom chat at the Prince both kingdoms do the king and queen the prince and princess 2 in love but they did not want both of the prince and princess cast under your spell because one of the king or queen asked a witch where unicorn to cast a spell on them Witcher agreed and she did it with a price the whip the Unicorn says that first child that your daughter has will be mine the king and queen agreed Princess Celestia broke them apart and help Princess Cadence Victor fell apart and move decadence to school for gifted unicorns far from your home
A long time ago? I'd say 1000 years is a pretty long time.. What if the kingdom that fell was the crystal empire? She was distracted and couldn't have known king sombra was planning to invade. When she snapped out of it one way or another, maybe she called for celestia's help?
Good point! I think your theory is true but I have one thing to add to it; what if that love potion was how she got her cutie mark???
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savage bear2021-03-12 22:54:20 (edited 2021-03-12 22:55:07 )
Nah. Even as an alicorn there is no way that the princess from the story and Cadence are the same. I know alicorns age slower than other ponies, but the holiday is much older than that. But it was an interesting theory on her origin.
I have a theory that the princesses represent the four loves twilight for friendship love the two sisters as family love Cadence as romantic love and I feel like flurry heart is unconditional love
I think that Cadence turned into an alicorn because she sucked up all the magic of the ponies. Think about it if she was a foal sitter then she must have foal sitted many ponies not just Twilight.
Since they’re the same exact magic that means cadence might’ve been the one who gave the spell to the prince to give to the princess plot twist so yeah that’s what I think bye🧁🍡🐋🐆
Maybe Cadence was the daughter of that alicorn, but unlike Flurry she wasn’t born an alicorn, but she became one by saving her mother with love. Hints why Flurry is a alicorn, she had two and possibly more alicorn ancestors.
I agree a lot with the daughter theory I’m seeing in the comments. But one thing that I’m still thinking about is the fact that cadence wasn’t born an Alicorn (at least I’m pretty sure) could anyone find a way that makes this fit still?
No. At the very least we can say Cadence was roughly a teenager when she looked after Twilight. We can guess that Celestia and Luna must have had another sibling since Blueblood is a distant nephew of there's. Cadence has called Celestia aunt so perhaps she is also a distant descendent to the royal sisters mystery sibling. Who knows maybe the alicorn princess in the story was that mystery sibling.
My one arguement aganst this is that Candance looks suspisusly younger in the flashback. If the hoof day episode made it seem like that event was ages ago, yet cadence is young. I would say it’s more likely Cadance was a descendent of the ones who had the love poison, thus the magic that brought her into the world would be in her
I'm assuming that that alicorn princess in the legend of H&H Day isn't Cadance. That story is probably centuries old and Cadance seems to be 15ish years older than Twilight considering she has the standard adult mare body type while Twilight was a filly. It could be one of her ancestors or else it goes along with my headcanon that alicorns used to be very common back when Celestia and Luna started ruling but died out or just left Equestria.
I think Cadance is immortal in a different way from Celestia and Luna. Both Crystal Princess and Princess from potion book are Cadance, but another incarnation from centuries ago. She grow old, die, then gets reincarnated again, and again, and again.
While I do like this theory, there isn’t a lot of evidence to back it up. First we don’t know exactly when the story took place. It could’ve happened before Cadence was ever born. Cadence also looks like a teen in Twilight’s flashback and to me the ponies in the story looked like adults. Even though they act in the same way, I dont think the love potion would’ve granted those abilities. We saw how Cheerilee and Big Mac acted when they were released. Nothing changed about them physically. The potion didn’t seem to alter them after it was broken. Granted they were Earth Ponies and not Alicorns so it’s not out of the realm of possibility that it would affect Alicorns different, but I don’t think that would be the case. A lot about Cadence is unknown but I don’t think she’s the pony in the story.
Here is an Idea for a video. I was thinking about the song "Midnight in me" when I thought about how she turned into a more powerful version of her self. Then I thought about nightmare moon and Day breaker. Also if Twilight in the human world can turn into Midnight Sparkle then can Celestia in the human world turn into Day breaker? What about Luna? Also Sunset shimmer wasn't an alcorn...Dose that mean that (with enough power) every poney in Equestria could turn into a version of them selves that is more powerful then Celestia herself? Ok that's it.
Is it possible then that Sombra was the one who created the potion and after breaking the spell he was claimed by darkness , got a horn and enslaved crystal empire?
What if Cadence was born from that love potion? What if her mother gave birth out of wedlock? That could potentially destroy a nation. Since we know nothing about her parents officially, what if her mom died?
If you think about it, there are only so many ponies the story could be about. Even if those were Cadance's parents or grandparents, the alicorn would still be alive, right? And I think we would have noticed another alicorn running around. I'd ordinarily just say it was a fable, but the love potion is very much real. Cadance is the most likely candidate, if you think about it.
that is nice but one thing, they never said anything about cadence's kingdom being destroyed, or her even having a kingdom, so how do we know it's her? what I think may have happened is, cadence cast the love spell on the king and queen, to try to bring them together, but when she saw how it affected the kingdom, she ran away and started a new life, trying to make up for what she did, by using the spell, again and again, to convince her that it was just a random accident and that her powers were good, and not evil. tell me if you guys like this idea! :D I am a forever follower of sawtooth.
It can't be possible that it was her because in the last season twighly has become a full grown aliform and her friends were still alive so if that goes for every alicorn then that won't be possible for cadence
I really like that. But Yeah what if they are her parents and they're overpowering "fake love" gave sombra the opening he wanted to take over the crystal empire. And cadence's magic is similar to the potion because it affected her through her mother giving birth.
Maybe sombra loved cadence's mom and was like the only earth pony obsessed with magic and did the kind of magic he could: potions. Made love potion and cadence was born but the spell broke and something happened to her (killed idk) and sombra took over and celestia and Luna rescued cadence and defeated sombra and raised cadence preparing her for retaking the empire once it reappeared, we just didn't see it.
4:01 I'm gonna be THAT guy here, because this really, really freaking bugs me.
Cadance became Twilight's babysitter BEFORE Twilight went to Celestia's school.
She doesn't have her Cutie Mark in ANY of the flashbacks involving when she was a filly and Cadance foalsat her and we've known from season 1 that Twilight didn't get her Cutie Mark til AFTER she joined Celestia's school.
I still, to this day, do not understand why so many people overlook this fact and assume it was Twilight being in Celestia's school that was the ONLY reason Cadance ended up foalsitting Twilight.
Even when I first entered the fandom in 2014, when I was at my most oblivious of how the show was structured, that fact clicked from the first instant I saw A Canterlot Wedding.
I actually think that the pony who the prince used the potion on was princess amore, which was the former ruler of the crystal empire before sombra and cadence. Maybe these two ponies are cadence's parents and that would explain why she does the spell on those ponies, because the potion's magic got in her dna. Idk i just thought this was a good theory :/
They should have given us a clue or hint o that would help us uncover Cadance's CANON backstory.
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Sara Colon2021-03-12 23:57:59 (edited 2021-03-13 00:04:16 )
I think that alicorn was cadence's aunt and that male pony, came to the crystal empire, so he could marry someone he loved, once he found her, and got to know her he wanted to marry her, but she had to marry a prince so her kingdom would survive a famine. (Celestia and Luna would have helped them more, but they just became rulers and had to fix their kingdom's problems. When the male pony found out, he had mixed feelings, and that drove him, to make the love potion. Once he had married her, he had blue blood. And you know the kingdom was struggling When the princess's parents found out, they strip her and him of their power, magic, and title. And when the other kingdom found out, about the princes not marrying the prince, they felt betrayed and tried to kill blue blood and his parents, until blue blood's grandparents give the option that your son could marry their 19-year-old. And they agreed because the 19- year- old's magic was more powerful than her older sister, and she could produce more powerful heirs. And I'm pretty sure you can tell where this thing is going to, that the 19-year-old married the prince got and got cadence. Now back to cadence's aunt and uncle and Celestia and luna, they were able to separate them and asked where are their powers, the parents said they put the powers in two heart-shaped gems. Celestia and luna then use their powerful powers and make it into one heart-shaped germ that uses both blue blood parent's powers. Now on to Sombra, he attacks the empire because of A. He wants the crystals to become wealthier and it is an assist to him. B He wants to conquer the other kingdoms, and the empire somehow has a lot of good resources. And I think he could kill blue blood's parents and grandparents and cadence's parents. He makes the empire disappear because he wants no one to try and take over. Now back to the sisters, their plan was to free the citizens, but failed, the only ones they could save were blue blood and cadence. And they trained blue blood and cadence hoping that both of them would reclaim the empire.
Wow wow WOW! THE CRYSTAL EMPIRE FELL WHICH OF COURSE COULD'VE BEEN THE SAME BECAUSE WHEN CADENCE SWOOPS IN WITH THE CRYATAL HEART THE WOMEN ANNOUCES THE CRYSTAL QUEEN WHICH MEANS SHE USED TO BE IT WHICH MEANS CADANCE CAN VERY WELL BE THE SAME! ALSO WHAT DOES KING SOMBERA HATE MOST? LOVE SO ONCE IT FELL HE CAME!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE LIKE!
i have a question about Zakaora. Idk if u have made a vid on this but what’s with her “cutie mark” kinda thing. because as i have heard from twilight, only ponies get cutie marks that she knows of...
Well we don't know who cancels parents is so I believe like the 2 ponies he felt so madly in love I believe that cadences their child That was little hints I might want to note😊
It this give a more fulfilling backstory to a princess Candience backstory which has always been very vague rather going by canon in the t.v. series,or supplemental cannon with the books and comic nice gumshoe detective work SawTooth Waves...
I think the only reason that story's princess is an alicorn is because being an alicorn is what makes a pony a princess, both terms are interchangeable in the MLP:FIM world.
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Pure Pallette2021-03-12 23:09:22 (edited 2021-03-12 23:09:54 )
Mabye she used the love potion beacuse she was affected by it and it never left her and after some time she found out how to control it. After all if this is true she would have been the first pony to be affected by this potion beacuse the prince would have whipped it up for her. And mabye thats how she got her cutie mark????? I still have some thinking to do on this.
in the picture of the to ponies from hearts and hooves day it could be possible that mabye the 2 ponies where cadences parents. think about it, the love potion was the original and probably more powerfull, plus, the spell was cast by a potion and not a horn or mabye we can switch it up a little, if those 2 ponies where cadences parents an they fell in love cuz of the potion, than mabye the magic from the love potion went down to their doughter that actually makes sense but then there's something eles in the way, if those ponies where cadences parents than cadence would have learned from expireince the terrable effects of making people fall in love with magic or possibly not from expireince, cuz like you said, the timeline is super blurry. so mabye cadence never new her parents, here's how it could be. cadences parents fell in love over a potion and it coused their kingdoms to fall apart. they had a magical baby with special powers to make people fall in love. somehow the family got seperated and grew up thinking that she can make the world a better place by easily making ponies fall in love, but then she learned that's not how love works when she started to care for twilight or when she found love with shining armor allowing her to grow into the leader she is today
About the 2 pony in the beginning, where are there even in a relationship or were they brothers and sisters? For two people yes talking about sharing the bank account. And the problems with it.
king Sombra could it be the prince of the story, when celestia separated cadence and sombra, sombra got into despair and that's how he found the alicorn emulate, probably that's how Sombra turning to king Sombra and how he told me to bad unicorn. Was whatever Luna had? Because Luna when she was turning into nightmare moon, a smokey black smoke probably found her, and that's a problem, nightmare moon Luna and king Sombra. Probably are relate and is related to king Sombra which in the past he used to be the prince of the Land, And What lands exactly the crystal empire. What's related to cadence, the crystal empire She is the princess of the crystal empire.
This just pop into my mind
Hey Sawtooth waves hope you're having a nice day 😊, This was just a little theory of mine that goes perfectly with this video hope you like it
i think the Prince and Princess got married and born cadence but the love spell make her like this so she might have a love spell that was born in her horn 😐
then celestia separated the Princess and Prince took cadence and boom she never remember and she still got the love spell horn magic
but people said she was a pegasus she fight a big evil monster and got turn into and alicorn
Queen chrysalis is a changeling with Wings and a horn, my theory is that after when the prince died she became unhinged and crazy causing her to mutate, into the sus bug pone we all love today
What if it was cadences parents? I mean that wouldn’t make sense cause if the book~ but the love spell could have somehow dropped into genetics and that why cadence had that spell? Idk~ it could be totally wrong but I can’t help think genetics have something to do with it 😅
maybe that's how the crystal empire fell, the love poison stuff from the H&HD episode idk man lol
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Gacha Editor2021-03-12 21:33:38 (edited 2021-03-12 21:34:01 )
Well I like this theory but I think that maybe Cadence isn't the princess but what if they had a child and she is that child and this is stretch but what if the princess is Celestia's second sister and that is why princess Celestia has a nephew and yes that means I'm saying princess Cadence is the sister of princess Celestia's nephew
Ok I like the theory but listen here remeber when it said the prince and princess couldn’t perform there roduties I T ThAt THIS IS THE REASON SOMBRE TOOK OVER AND THE two ponies were her Parents twilight and the crystal heart spell could still fit in the show
How could it be Cadence malicorne was all grown up I know Cadence got her horn when she was a fairy that's the last day of school but Cadence is probably not you know that you know she wow Alcorn is grown up Hearts and Hooves Day was 100 years old oneys could do that unicorns too old Cadence I don't know how she act that magic I've seen all the seasons except season 9 which I'm going to see
I had the theory she was the daughter instead(like some others) too...
I figured this makes more sense too. Because that would explain why she did not need to make a potion 🧪, and she is extremely young (like a teenager) as “Twilights foul sitter”.
... P. S. Then I forgot that “the birth of alicorns was a mystery even to Celesta & Luna, but that might have been a white lie diversion too not traumatize the moment FlurryHearts birth to Cadence & company, and ruin the unique/uncanny celebration...
especially of the Royal Crystaling 👑 which I almost forgot about!
Also, this is the second official unnamed directly alicorn we are referred to I did not notice until season’s later, considering the unnamed alicorn on the treasure door of the episode “Stranger Than Fan-fiction”!... (even DaringDo almost missed this!)...
So just how manny or much of alicorn society & others are even we missing or missed?!?!?... You got a good catch!!!🏅
im guessing that cadance was a teen or older then she met a boy pony who liked here so he maid the love potion and gave it to her then they fell in love then their kingtom fell the princess heard this and turned the princess into a baby and raised her as her neace sorry this is just what i thought happend
Amazing work! I really appreciate the effort you put into creating depth to the characters we wish we could have seen more of! I can't wait for more of your content! Really gives me something to look forward to!! <3
I love this take because it implies that in Equestria (a land not as plagued by amatonormativity as Earth), the dangers of romantic love are more openly acknowledged. Cadence growing through romantically-induced trauma into a mare capable of a mutually supportive healthy relationship and eventual mother is a really nice arc to think about.
I’m so glad someone finally pointed out what was wrong with what she did to that couple. I remember rewatching that scene when I was older and wondering if she trapped one of those ponies in a toxic relationship and forced them to suffer even longer. This is a super interesting theory!
I always saw that scene as Twilight remembering it wrong, for some reason. Perhaps something similar happened, but because she was so young she only remembers that there was a couple fighting and Cadence used her magic to help them to stop. I agree that it's really coincidental that her spell and the love poison from the hearts and hooves day episode appear so similarly, but to me that just appeared to be a similarity between magic more than anything else. I always accepted the idea that Cadence was a Pegasus before becoming an Alicorn, but couldn't ever really pinpoint an exact idea for her backstory.
I actually kind of like the idea of this, but it leaves me with questions wondering who the stallion was and what Kingdom he ruled.
This instantly made me think of King Sombra. I don't remember if he was born a unicorn or and alicorn or whatever because I can't remember the lore, but it kind of left me with a theory that the Kingdom he ruled was this Crystal Empire and the alicorn he fell in love with was Cadence. Suppose that during this time Sombra and Cadance are both young adults, Sombra rules a kingdom by himself and Cadance was just turned into an alicorn recently after discovering love and its mgaic.
Celestia is known to put her problems on other ponies cough*Twilight*cough but since Twilight would have been a filly back then and was no where near ready to be a Princess I imagine she'd ask Cadance for a lot of help(since Luna would be on the moon.) Say she needs Cadance to visit Neighboring Kindgoms while she attended to her royal duties in Canterlot, Cadance would oblige.
So Cadence goes and visits all the neighbouring kingdoms when she comes upon the Crystal Empire. The gaurd notices that she is a Princess and brings her in to talk to Sombra and immediately he falls for her. While he talks to her about equestrian politics in the back if his mind he's wondering how they'll meet again and if he can keep talking to her.
(This next part might be me being lazy so uh- bare with me) Just as the meeting ends, Cadence starts to get a little hungry and Sombra offers her some food and a drink, like the CMC, he makes the potion and puts it in both drinks just to make sure if she choose either cup it would have potion in it. They sit, they drink, they're in love. So we all know what happens from then on, they fall so deeply in love they forget about everything else and the kingdom starts to crumble and everything's falling apart. So, I think Celestia thought it might have taken Cadence a few days but not as long as she had been gone, worried she goes out herself to look for her, following the same list of kingdoms she made for Cadence. Eventually she gets to what used to be the Crystal Empire and notices the obvious wreck it has become. She spots the Sombra and Cadance together, completely ignoring everything around them.
Noticing how irresponsible the Prince was Celestia uses her magic to either break the spell or separate them from one another. Practically banning Sombra and bringing Cadence back to Canterlot.
Of course that leaves his fallen citizens/inhabitants of his Kingdom and after being bannished for so long and finally coming back he enslaved his Kingdom and made it so that they would obey him(since he no longer had a sense of control over them) making Celestia bannish him, again. By this time Cadence is a full grown adult in a relationship with Shinning, Twilight is a young adult, and she's still living in Canterlot studying.
Everything lines up for me except for the that we(or I, rather) don't know ehat species Sombra was born as. I've personally always headcannond him to be born an Earth pony, but what do you think?
I really love Cadence, and the only real thing people have against her is her lack of backstory. I would have loved to spend more time on her, for her sake. It doesn’t have to be about a whole empire or her husband or baby. She could have become a truly awesome character, especially if more people latched onto her like they did Luna and Celestia
When u said this all sounds familiar, i instantly thought that chrysalis was the alicorn princess and she turned bad because she used the love spell and celestia separated the two. This kinda fits in with her motive: to get love
there's a book called "twilight and the crystal heart spell" that touched upon cadence's past and how she met celestia. not sure if you've read it yet but i suggest you should!
When Cadence returned the heart, a pony yelled out "look. It's the crystal princess" might not mean much, but to me it kinda felt like maybe there was a previous crystal princess. Cuz Cadence was sent to just protect at first i do believe, but obviously to also rule. Otherwise the kingdom would have fallen faster, and the crystal ponies were too depressed to probably think of her as their new Ruler.
Some people are saying the Cadence could be the daughter of those lovebirds in the story. And how her mother was the previous crystal princess. But as the story goes, the potion screwed things up, and so came Sambra.
Maybe when the kingdom fell and vanished, so did her parents.
One problem with your hypothesis is that when we see Cadance as Twilight's foalsitter, she is noticeably younger, essentially a teenager/adolescent. That argues against Cadance being many years (perhaps centuries) old. Also, Cadance was allegedly born a Pegasus (though that has yet to be made official).
Theory: I think Cadence is the daughter of the two ponies depicted in the book and was born a Pegasus. Her parents were probably always fighting and couldn’t get along together. This is where they decided to use the love potion to make them love each other and how Cadence had learn the love spell, but her version isn’t as strong as the original. However, this backfired, causing their kingdom to fall because the potion was a love poison. After their kingdom fell, Cadence had somehow freed her parents from the love poison, then Celestia appeared and made Cadence an Alicorn.
If she was the alicorn in the story, then she already had character development. Which is a good thing. If not, then maybe she is the alicorn's successor, or a filly inspired by her, and learned from her mistakes. I would not mind about that.
Could you theorise about the geodes's origin next please? First of all I notice that they give the mane 7 similar abilities to their countrepats so maybe Sunset was able to do mind reading spells in Equestria.
I think there could be something to this theory, as it was also said that Tyrek (or whatever it is written) already knows the three princesses and that he was locked up for a long time. That means Cadence would have to be older.
As much as I dig the idea, I really doubt Cadence is that same pony. The fact that the princess in the book is an alicorn isn't an odd detail to put in - every princess is an alicorn. Hell, even some of the other species' rulers are their equivalent to it.
Celestia. Cadence. Luna. Twilight was turned into an alicorn when given the title, making it seem like it's a requirement. Even Chrysalis and the leader of the kirin, while not technically alicorns/ponies, have the same stature as the adult pony princesses.
My theory would be that, if Cadence is related to the couple from the story at all, it would be as a...well, relative. A daughter, granddaughter, something like that. Since it's specified as "long ago" and the holiday has seemingly existed for ages, and Cadence is shown as not being an adult yet when Twilight was a child, I doubt that it happened when she was still a kid. That's actually the biggest reason for why I think the theory doesn't work - we can clearly see that Cadence looks different as an adult than she did when playing babysitter. The princesses are all (from what we know) immortal and seemingly stop aging when they're in the "lanky tall adult" phase that Luna and Celestia are in the entire series.
So Cadence couldn't have been an adult and part of that story when she was babysitting Twilight. But it also couldn't have happened after, since 1. Twilight would have probably been told about it 2. it wouldn't have been "long ago".
Cadence being from that bloodline, however, works pretty well - either as a daughter or more distant relative - in my opinion.
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Ike Sc2021-03-12 17:45:15 (edited 2021-03-12 17:46:05 )
There is one problem with the theory that Cadence is the Alicorn in the book. We don't know the age of any of the characters, but we do have a rough idea. In the flash back with her babysitting twilight, she was not fully grown. She was closer to Sandbar's age, or Apple Jack's in the "Where the Apple Lies". Even if Cadence is immortal (which i don't think she is, I think only Celestia, Luna, and Twilight are for reasons that are too long to put into a comment) But assuming she IS immortal, we know that immortal ponies keep growing and aging to a certain point, and it doesn't take any more than probably 40 years judging by the finale episode. This would mean Cadence is most likely between 20 and 30 at the time of her marriage, and if that's the case, hearts and hooves day couldn't have been going on for very long, and during that time Cadence would have inherited a Kingdom, met a prince from some other kingdom, had both kingdoms fall without Celestia's intervention, then Cadence moves on to babysitting. And how young would Cadence had to have been during the time of ruling a kingdom and falling in love with a prince? I'm gonna say about ten. While I doubt Cadence IS the pony in the book, I am certain she is somehow connected to her.
I think Cadance is a princess of a queen with magic like that. When i looked up Princess Cadance mother i saw picture that said that her mother was Princess Mi Amore and her outfit had a lot of hearts all over so i think she had that power from her mother.
I feel like the prince and princess under the spell were her parents and due to the spell it was sort of a "tangled" situation where she gained some powers from the potion
maybe she was the one who provided the potion cause she is the princess of love which means that she has a strong understanding of love and spells related to love. Plus she would of left the need to help the relation ship because she was the princess of love.
This is a great theory, but I'm left wondering if the official comics are canon? Because there are a lot of details that could contribute to this theory, such as sombra killing a princess "mi amore" who I assume is cadence's mother(?).
Like others in the comment section i prefer the version that Cadence likely got her love spell true the potion due to her being the love kid of the potion. Houwever since the potion likely ended up killing the coupple, (since we know the kingdom fell) this wuld leave cadence in the same position as Harry potters Tom Riddle, and even if cadence (if related to the potion at all) knew what love felt like shed likely ignore it (she used the love spell btw showing she dit not know ((very well)) what love is, or at least what a good relationship represents) to me the therory falls appart, i feel cadence is especially as the prinses (marry sue of the subject youre prinses in) of love, shed be one of view to find “true love” in eqestria disconnecting her from the love potion in my mind the spell was preformed when she was yung and not fully mature. I feel that the story in ‘harts and hooves day’ is not connected to cadence... sorry for saying so sawtooth, but back to the drawing board on this one in my opinion
I actually think sombra casted a love potion spell on the Ruler before Cadance, and the ruler fell in love with sombra and the kingdom fell, and Sombra took over?
I like that theory and it makes sense but my take on it is that she is the child of the alicorn and earth pony prince. Since the child would be a consequence of the love potion it would make sense that her powers would also be of love.
the crystal heart spell says that cadence was found nearby a village by 2 earth ponies and then she was adopted. During her childhood she spread love to everyone in the village and there was a pony named Prismia that had a green heart necklace that could steal love from other creatures. Then cadence defeated her and then was teleported to the same place where twilight became an alicorn and she also became an alicorn like twilight. Later she was adopted by celestia has her royale niece.
If Cadence is the daughter of the prince and the princess then perhaps her parents were so caught off in their love for one another, they didn't have enough love for Cadence. Perhaps Cadence was neglected as a foal and never experienced real love from parent to child. Maybe that's why Celestia took her in? Same way Celestia set a path for Twilight to discover friendship, maybe she did the same thing for Cadence? Maybe the babysitting was for Cadence to learn what love is and how to share it with others and how foals love their caretakers and vise versa. It would also make sense that Flurry Heart represents the love for one's caretaker if Cadence never experienced that love until she learned it from Celestia? Cadence had a family formed from real love which is something she never had. Exactly the same as Twilight discovering real friendship as her path to becoming a princess.
Also maybe after learning what love is with Celestia, she went back to her parents and was able to break the spell? Maybe that's how she became an alicorn and the Princess of Love. It would make sense!
I do like the idea that the spell and cadence are somehow connected, but her being the princess in the story I find kinda if-ish. I like the idea better that it was her parents in that story or perhaps the story is not the full truth (throughout history parts of stories get changed for different reasons) so maybe the pony in the love spell potion wasn't really an alicorn and it was cadence's mom. Another thing is that there is a thoery that princess amore from the comics is related to cadence cause princess mi AMORE cadendaza (can't spell ;^;).
So this is my theory: what if princess Amore is cadence's mom who is the princess in the love spell. Sometime down the line Amore broke out of the spell. When cadence was very young, her mom got turned to stone which somehow lead her to get lost in the forest where she was found in the book. Then cadence earns her wings and cutie mark. Honestly that would also kinda explain why Celestia made her a princess afterwards so fast unlike twilight who toke 3 seasons to become an alicorn. Cadence got her horn after she got her cutie mark.
I think sawtooth is right but we don't have any proof that cadence was around during the first pony valentine's but if you push that aside I agree with you
I don’t think that Cadence is the pony that was put under the love potion. Remember in the Crystal Empire part two, a Crystal Pony recognized Cadence as the Crystal Princess. Perhaps it was her mother not her. Maybe that’s why Cadence values Love and Friendship, because if that’s the case she was neglected by her parents because they were lost in each other’s eyes. If they couldn’t preform their royal duties they definitely wouldn’t have been able to care for their own daughter.
Here is my theory The both ancient king and queen for so deeply in love that they forgot about their child and left the child somewhere the child was cadence she got the power of her mother and father and became the love princess and celestial found her
I think the pony from hearts and hooves day is Cadence's mom that would explain why she would use that magic
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Dev Satra2021-03-12 18:13:43 (edited 2021-03-12 18:14:28 )
(Plzz see the video in which there is queen crystallis backstory) I saw a video in which it was shown that queen crystall-is's back story and it was proven that she was the the lost princess of crystall empire so what if she was the princess responsible for the love one day.And the reason is there in that video why she turned evil so maybe cadence was just a random pony and then celestia knew that she could be the new princess of love and turned her alicorn princess cadance was studying in celestia's school only and then she started babysitting twilight and on and on and on.
i would actually guess that ceidences timeline is simular to twilights, i mean they were both children and they have grown up at the same time. it would make more sence of caidence being in the bloodline of the prinsess instead of being the prinsess
i remember being obsessed with mlp when I was like in year 1 and I used to watch the episodes with my friend when I went to her house to hang out and now she's even worse than a fake friend and these videos remind me of when me and that friend were real friends and now we hate each other, I'm her second option when her new mind slave isn't at school and she tries to steal all of the new friends I get. When I got a friend that I could trust more than anyone in my class, the fake friend demanded to meet her. I was worried that she'd try to steal my first real best friend so I said "I aint going to introduce u to her, if u want to meet her go talk to her urself" and after a long time she gave up but I aint going to forget the best or worst times with the fake friend. The thing that reminds me the most of the good times is these videos because they make me remember how much obsessed me and that friend were with mlp when we were real friends. I just wanted to share this story cuz I got reminded about it.
Good theory but I’m still a big fan of ink roses theory that the princess from that story was chrysalis. And that the origin of the changlings feeding off of love is from the backfired love potion
Cadance is one of the most underused character and the most underused princess, like she could've done so much more for the storyline and stuff but the writers didn't really include her in basically important stuff kinda sad tbh
I think crystalis (I’m sorry for my spelling) is that princess from hearts and hooves day. If love was all the princess thought of after consuming the potion...........
Cadance wasn't a unicorn before she became an alicorn, she was a pegasus. Plus her age is way off in the book...we don't need to know her age to know that the princess in the book is more mature than Cadance would have been. Likely all this is with the similarities with the spell, is just the way "love spells" and "love poisons" work...the difference being that Cadance's love spell reminds ponies why they love each other, where as the love poison forces ponies to be infatuated with each other (which isn't even love).
That means when Cadance cast her love spell on Shining Armor, she wasn't controlling his will, or forcing his affections on herself, instead, she was merely reminding him why he loved her. Don't forget, Chrystalis forced Shining Armor's love for Cadance to be channeled on Chrystalis instead, and it was so forceful that Shining Armor just fell into a hypnotic state....his love for Cadance could have even been influenced to change toward Chrystalis, we don't know for sure..it's just what you see is what you get, whatever happened to Shining Armor, we know he wasn't acting on his own will.
Well we know how old Twilight's older brother is ish so I don't think she is as old as hearts and hooves maybe an aged relative who's curse was lifted before Celestia was an alicorn
Maybe Cadance is the daughter of the two but Cadance's parents was too deep in the spell that there didnt take care of her, so two earth ponys took her in and as she got older, she released that she was the only pegasus in the town, so she ask the earth ponys why is that and not wanting to tell her the true, there says "we find u one day" (this dose have to with the book)
I don't think Cadence was the Alicorn in the illustrated fable. While your narrative makes sense, sawtooth, I can not discount that book, those comics, and the supporting tweets.
That said, I do think that there is a connection between the two, and I will explain what that connection is here in a moment.
Now, one key reason why I do not think that "Princess Mia Motori Cadenza" use her full & formal name, is the Alicorn depicted in the "hearts and hooves day" episode is the fact that in both comics and flashbacks we see her being SIMILAR in age to twilight; slightly older, but not by much, which means that she would have been __a child__ and I just do not think that child-molestation, or even the implications of it being a part of the "Equestrian universe" would have any place in our beloved 'Technicolor pony show'...
But I do think that one of your theories about the inheritance of the crystal empire might have some weight here: what If Cadence is their Empress not only by right-of-arms: but blood as well?
Picture if you will the reign of King Sombra, you've said that he may have created the Alicorn Amulet by channeling all of the power of his alicorn form into it in part of the process of transforming into the shadow-monster he later became; but, why? What could drive an alicorn, who all seem to be powered by positive emotions to become that type of thing, on purpose?
What if I told you that it ties back into the Flurry-Heart conundrum?
It all comes down to the crystal empire and the nature of its monarchy.
I believe that, if the Sombra theory is true, he was not the first to be so; in fact, the crystal heart is an alternative manifestation of the same principles of Alicorn power transmission that he corrupted to create the Alicorn Amulet.
In the elder days of the crystal empire, the ponies there didn't 'Crystalize' the way they do now, not until the first time their alicorn rulers died in the process of channeling the last of their fading power and essence into the making of the crystal heart. Now, normally alicorns can't be killed by any means except violence, but I do not think that these were the same alicorns we have in later years. I think that somehow, star-swirls experiments CHANGED how alicorns work and made them immortal. If not that, then perhaps the alicorn rulers of the crystal empire were just, different, from how it works for the latest set, perhaps because they represented love, which, while it is eternal, in a sense, must die and renew itself, like a Phoenix, every few years to even last a single lifetime.
In any case, as the rulers of the crystal empire grew old and close to the end of their lives, quite possibly already knocking on the door of death anyway, they would put their magic into the heart and end their lives on their terms. However, one of their children, the first-born, would be BORN an alicorn, and the next ruler by what amounts to a divine mandate.
Now, where do Sombra, Cadence, and Flurry-Heart fit into this?
Sombra was the last heir to the crystal empire before Cadence, and, he went mad, turning himself into a shadow-demon-thing... With no other alicorn to carry-on the maintenance of the crystal heart, the people were FORCED to follow him, miserable though his rule was because no other options were available. But then, Celestia\* and Luna appeared, and war broke out between the two countries of Equestria and the crystal empire, and I think that it was not only a war between the two but a civil-war of rebels fighting Sombra to proclaim the Royal Sisters Queens in his place. You note, Sombra wasn't defeated at the far southern border of the empire, but within shouting distance of the capital city; I think that it took a significant armed conflict to force him back to that point. \*(As a side note, it is part of my head-canon that Celestia wasn't always called that, but rather took it as a Reign-name after being acclaimed to the rank of Princess. I think her original name was something like "Solaria", but I digress, that's a theory for another time.)
Now, I asked what would drive Sombra to give up his pony hood and become a terrifying shadow monster; what if, he watched the poisoning of the previous princess, his mother; and that warped him so badly that he vowed to find a way to separate his heart and soul and mind into three distinct entities so none could be tampered with by affecting the other two? This results in the creation of the Alicorn Amulet, and his turning into a shadow-monster.
I do think that it makes sense, but I said at the start that Cadence was heir by blood, as well as a divine right, how does that work, and tie back to the potion? I think Cadence was the distant descendent of a younger-child of Sombra's mother, conceived during the period of being poisoned. Cast out by Sombra when he came to power, this child emigrated to Equestria, never speaking of their ancestors, lest Sombra has them assassinated, but, when the Crystal Heart began to awaken as the icy slumber encasing the kingdom waned, it called to the most direct dependent of the old bloodline who was still alive and uncorrupted to come to save it, and that descendant was Mia Motori Cadenza, AKA: Cadence.
Now, I know that there are going to be a few objections, and some of them have answers: Q1: "But Cadence was a Pegasus, and the crystal ponies are all Earth-types..." A1: We've seen earth ponies give birth to pegasi before, (looking at you Mrs. Cake...); so it's not out of the question that at some point in the intervening years the bloodlines of earth-ponies from that early "second-son", (or daughter, I'm more partial to the idea that Sombra's half-sibling was a mare, actually), simply died out over the years; leaving the daughter of a pegasus bloodline "the last mare standing". Q2: "But Luna said they had never heard of something like that happening with Flurry-Heart." A2: Um, yeah, and? Celestial and Luna weren't BORN royalty, so of course, they were not privy to the big secrets of the unicorns. The idea that there were earth-ponies who could pick up the greatest wizards of the unicorn nation and dribble them like a basketball probably was a state secret on the level of the schematics of first-strike capacity stealth submarines in the early 1960s! With the whole "Clover the Clever" incident such knowledge was lost; especially the details, if not the broader strokes.
I like to think that the ponies on the story are her parents, we don't actually know if there were alicorns in the past. I doubt cadence was born an alicorn but became one like twilight
I think Cadence was that alicorn because technically she gives like a love poison. I mean her hair looks like the Alicorns hair even her wings looks like that other Alicorns wings
What if the kingdom was the crystal empire and because cadence was so infatuated she was completely oblivious to king sombra taking up power. When she was released it was too late and there was nothing she would do but go on living like it didn’t happen
What if Princess Cadance was the daughter of those 2 and the love potion came into her mom which made her have all that to make people fall in love??? Idk its my theory but also I think ur theory fits. And maybe that Celestia took care of Cadance? Idk I could be wrong LOL
That only makes sense because if you remember the Crystal Empire was taken over by zomba but we don't know anything past that so when the crystal pony said the princess or the Queen is back that means cadence could have been that princess or queen
Well in cadence's back story it is said that she was a Pegasus adopted by earth ponies. Even if that's only fan made, in one episode little twilight says to cadence " you are now a princess. You won't have time for me anymore" or something like this. Well they only see alicorns as princesses.That means she wasn't an alicorn before. So I don't know about this theory
I kinda agree with you but the hearth warming thing happen many years ago? And candance became a alicorn around the same age has twilight when she was little by princess celesda. So she couldn’t be the same alicorn in the book. Maybe her mother!?
This is a cute theory but I thought I heard there was a chapter book about Cadence and she was a pegasus that went alicorn? Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell?
I think she was the daughter of the Crystal Princess Or The De-Aged crystal princess. I think she was grazed by sombra’s time spell But that’s just a theory, A MLP Theory
It sounds possible but from a mlp comic Candace said the she was founded from a pegasi family. Also in this comic the pony that its based on it she said Candace looked like the old Queen or Princess of the Crystal Empire. Idk but I think you should look for the mlp comic I'm talking about it could help with your theory. Also I love videos 💙🦄
Hey I really like this video but what if you did a video on princess Luna why was she so young when she came back and when the tree of harmony was dying when twilight looked in the past she was as old as she was now I would really appreciate if you did a video on this but you don't have to if you don't want to😊
In my dream I was runded by a illegal business and heres the thing flurry heart was involved in a even worse fight against apex and I nearly died twice first time was from fatal injuries and second was from blood lost and my dream girlfriend broke up and gone with apex and I was called out of the fight because of the rund and heres the thing I have got those injuries by a crane and a injection of a micro chip in the same shoulder that I have my cutie mark and again not a patrion and imagion the crane shocking with 10 gigabolts of electricity and the creature was from pokemon when a pecachu used it z moves twice both at the same time the only double attack was my kill to scropan and he tried to kill me but I'm to late to found out that he was mind controlled
Hi swathooth, what i'm going to say have nothing to do with the cadence theory, is about the king sombra theory video I was watching again: I was thinking if the amulet was so important and powerfull how it ended in the hooves of that random pony who sold for Trixie something so powerfull wouldn't be just thrown away , and if the amulet of the alicorn contains magic from all three tribes trixie should have been turned into an alicorn even if the magic was corrupted it was magic from unicorns, pegasis, and earth ponys
Think about it 6 unicorns raised the sun but non became alicorns we already know some were mares so why not Celestia and Luna got their wings by breaking her relatives curse
While I'm personally not sure if I agree with this theory I can say one thing. But it's more of an observation and I don't functionally want to read into it further than what im saying here.
It's become a thing for -keyword SOME abuse victims to use the idea of the abuse as a sort of kink in their later life post abuse, usually in order to regain the control they didn't have during the experience. -Think knife play or types of maybe more extreme BDSM...
I just listened to what happened in the original story from the Hearts and Hooves Day episode. The Prince gave a love 'potion' to someone he liked and as a result it made them want to stay together and get lost in each others eyes and they end up ignoring the rest of the kingdom as a result. They let their kingdom fall to ruin from neglect. (Not including the dragon also mentioned in the story but maybe thats a story for someoneto write) Could that have been an intentional mislead on his behalf? Also it doesn't even explicitly say the princess consented but I might be reading into things too much there. Sounds pretty dark to me actually now I'm thinking about it this much. It doesn't say how long this love poison lasted for but I don't think a kingdom necessarily falls in a day. Well this is My Little Pony and worse has happened on the show but thats another coversation...
WHAT IM NOT TRYING TO SAY, is that the princess/alicorn from the original Hearts and Hooves Day story was definitely an abuse victim, and neither is Cadance. But hypothetically if Cadance was that princess, could that have something to do with her showing off her love magic to Twilight through affecting that couple without: A, knowing anything about them, B, not even asking for context or even what the argument was about or C, even GETTING THEIR CONSENT to use her spell on them. Maybe she just sort of assumed it was fine to do it? And even if she did know who the couple was which I doubt would that even make it okay to just have done the spell regardless.
I don't know what I came across mentally to have written this out but I feel like I'm onto something here. Or I'm just reading into a little girls show about bright pastel ponies... oops
We know way Cadence become alicorn, but she locked like she is teenager in Twilight's flashback, that means she grow up in same time as normal ponies (and not like Lina and Celestia, they are 1000+ years old). That mean she was kid when she became alicorn, so she isn't princess from story...
Hey i have an idea ok so a few people have mentioned that she could be their daughter and maybe she was ok so lets say that alicorn use to be a pegasus just like cadance and became an alicorn princess as well then she had that love potion which took over her life and she ended up having a baby pegasus with the prince called Cadance but due to their unnatural love for each other the prince and princess abandoned Cadance and went on with their love life with only the two of them that's when Celestia found Cadance along and scared and so Celestia took her in and she may of been a pegasus but since there was a pegasus turned alicorn before her Celestia thought Cadance could become a strong princess and that's how she became the princess of love as a way to replace her mother who never had the chance to know what it truly felt like 😁
@Bella Hoffman Thanks 😊 but i cant take all the credit i saw some people say she could be the daughter plus im sure someone's thought of something similar ❤
@Reese He's a fifty two time cousin to Celestia so it doesn't count as incest and then before turning into an Alicorn there didn't seem to be any dating between Celestia and Cadence so a niece might just be an affectionate treatment
The two ponies could be the parents of Cadence. And the potion can I have affected the baby which is cadence so maybe that’s why she has the heart as her cutie mark. But that’s just a theory. But who knows
There might be a chance that's princess cadance backstory because there's only 5 allicorns and it would not be princess luna because princess cadance is already a princess after princess luna was banished to the moon and if it was princess luna was that mysterious princess the kingdom would not fall because princess celestia was the ruler of equstria and princess luna's job was to lower the moon and dream walking as for princess celestia how would the canterlot would be in peace and who would help the mysterious prince and princess celestia break out from the spell and plus princess celestia and princess luna was the only starswirl of bearden turned into allicorns. (Sorry for bad grammar)
how did this Alicorn in the Book become one? In the Show, Its like: If you find another cind of magic, you become an alicorn. When Cadence IS that Alicorn, she must have been in love before, to find thid magic. But when she is NOT this alicorn, who is it then, And what cind of magic does she have? I have an Idea: What, if she is Cadences mother, and her magic is another cind of love, like Flurryheart. Maybe the love to her dauther. Just my thought.
In the book that is princess cadence mom and dad and when she was born they still must have had some love In the baby because the mom looks like princess cadence
I this that princess in the love spell was her mom and the prince was her dad.
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wait what if that prince and that princess are King sombras mother and father?The princess would be Princess Amore and the prince's name is unknown. It would go perfectly with my theory.(Btw I just mixed sawtooths theory and conspirapon3s theory.)My theory is that After Celestia and Luna realized they could raise the moon and sun,they absorbed the magic of all 3 tribes and became alicorns.Then Sombra got jealous of Celestia and Luna's power.Then chrysalis asks Celestia And Luna for help.Sombra then figures out how to take the magic from all 3 tribes and gets wings.After that luna and celestia fights sombra.Thats when starswirl comes in .He put all sombras Alicorn magic in The Alicorn Amulet. Then Sombra is banished,Chrysalis is angry cause she lost her husband and half her citizens and other half went homeless so then she decides to take revenge. : )
That's a good though but what about the spell that twilight at season 1 or 2 she made a love spell at her doll to make a friendship problem to the cutie mark crusedores and then with all the love magic at the doll all the town was after the thing that do you have to say about that? Please replay I want to know what do you think about my though.
Can you make video about human Sunset Shimmer, because Sunset we know, part of EG main 7, is from pony world, and we have no idea where is original human Sunset or how old is she...
SAWTOOTH WAVES THE MALE PONY THAT LOVED THE ALICORN I THINK SHE GAVE BIRTH TO A ALICORN SO MAYBE THIS IS WHY CADANCE GAVE BIRTH TO A ALICORN PLS READ THIS AND PLS HELP ME SOLVE THIS IM A HUGE FAN OF URS JUST PLS MAKE A VID I THINK WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM AND IF U DO MAKE A VID WHICH I HOPE SO I would like to say ur awesome
What if she is the child of the to poney and them being under the love spell so there child of them would maby be abmele to use the majeic of the love poshion
I mean the story might be fake but if it’s true that would only mean it’s cadence ooooor that alicorn died or lost all their magic like alicorn amulet or some other way
Please tell me about mlp G5 because I have a lot of questions please please My questions are: What is g5 basically???? Are mlp characters are in g5???? Is Starlight Glimmer is in g5???? Is it possible that mlp producers make a series or a movie about starlight glimer because she is my favorite character and I really really want to see her become an alicorn please Please please please please please reply my comment please please
1. G5 is the new generation of My Little Pony. 2. As of now, none of the G4 characters make a physical appearance aside from merch in one of the screenshots. 3. Starlight is not in G5. The producers said that none of the characters in G4 will return: 4. No. Hasbro is not making a movie or series about Starlight. She doesn’t have what it takes to properly rule and will never be an Alicorn.
Ok so twiltet how did clestiai no she was the chosen one. And its kinda simler to her story she did not want To make eny friends and she was apart of the love priness's life she mabey has somthing to do with this and she looket bichraad wen crislis chrapt her
The small details I never notice until someone points them out. I look forward to seeing your videos all the time. It’s a nice answer to cadence’s backstory
The theory makes a lot of sense love your channel it really helps me understand a lot about mlp but one thing I’ve wondered how did celestial and Luna become alicorns was it from raising the sun and moon or doing something great and magical we don’t know there parents
Great Video!! Could you please explain the portals to Equestria? Like, is the island one natural and the statue one not? Or are they both natural? Or are neither of them natural? And how many are there?
I just had a flashback from one episode of sawtooth waves, he said, and I quote “It would be nice if we had a CANON cadance backstory...” Sawtooth gave himself a canon backstory.
I know the idw comic arc where sombra got reformed took place in alternate Reality but i was hoping that princess amore was gonna be mentioned in the show
For me it is a little hard for me to believe because when you compare the growth between the growth when twilight had in the last episode and how small cadence was when she was presented and could not have been so long long ago. Maybe several years or not even, But in the recent years before she meet twilight she could have been trans formed. Since we don't know exactly what happen to cadence before then it could be many things. Like she could have been born an alicorn. Not likely though. But your theory is pretty solid considering. I enjoyed this video. 😁
I saw a great comic where Twilight went into how Cadence isn't the princess of love but the princess of hormones, that she could kill someone if she tried
Maybe the ponies were her parents. They could have been the orignal rulers of the crystal empire before Sombra, and that's why her royal crystal apperance is even more royal then twilights, and she could do that love spell because the potion could have had a lasting effect on the DNA if its never broken.
Cant be cus the birth from an Alicorn was never a thing until Flurry Heart came along. So, Cadence cant be the daughter of this Alicorn! Im pretty sure its just Cadence-
Hi sawtooth! Can you please make a video on human sunset shimmer (the one who didn't go through the portal to the human world) where is she now? And how is she? It would really mean a lot if did do a video on it!
Here’s a thought what if the alicorn from the story was Princess Amore? She might have been the one that stallion loved. And who to say the spell actually wore off? There must have been a side effect of some sort. Maybe that’s way the spell Cadance used is so similar to that of the love poison. Just think.....
Hey sawtooth I think because it said a long long time ago cadence would’ve been in adults from the first stages that we know about her she wouldn’t of been a baby when twilight was so I’m thinking that that’s the daughter of the princess that was corrupted with the love spell the love spell drained into her and gave her the magic since we never really see any sort of proof that she was a Pegasus before hand or Hoof that she might’ve just been born in alicorn The only place it says that she was a Pegasus is in the comics so I’m thinking she’s the daughter of those two and she was separated because the mom and dad couldn’t care for her so that’s why she was separated from them and thrown into celestia is care I know it’s kind of out there but I really think that might’ve been what happened I hope you read this comment and her and maybe add together this and see if this would work😁
It would make sence but then there are questions who is the prince where did his kingdom go and can stalions become alicorns since he was not a alicorn or had a alicorn bride before but it could be a answer for caidence
there is one problem about this theory. Cadence was babysitting twilight as a small pony and if she was already married wouldn't she be the big version of herself? sorry just thinking.
New theory what if that wasn’t cadence I mean the theory make sense what if that was a relative of cadence or a lost alicorn princess that found a prince and wanted to get in love with him and maybe there was a old book about love spells or she created it used it on him and then that alicorn got lost of died idk but I feel like it was cadence
I think so it makes so much sense but there is one thing that is rong but in your other video I love your YouTube channel it makes me think so interesting love it cant wait for the next one.
We dont know cadances real parents she was adopted by two earth ponies and it wasent cadance as the princess in the story when she got her wings she was like when she did the love spell
I really hate the word Mary Sue it's so annoying there's an actual word of what it means but if I created my own Alicorn OC and calls it a Gary stue I'll be mad
i think thats no cadance becasue in the picture thats a full grown alicorn.. and cadance when we saw her when she did that magic to the ponys shes a kids or something... so i dont think that thats right....
@Sawtooth Waves Eh, I don't think so. If the Hearts and Hooves Day princess is Cadance's mother, that would make it likely that she passed her alicornhood onto Cadance, like Cadance herself with Flurry Heart, yet in The Crystalling, Cadance herself seemed a bit surprised that her daughter was born an alicorn.
What if the prince was sombra before he became a King and it was his kingdom that fell cause he loved that pony so much and desperate the get it back on track after he realize what has happened he found something which turned him evil and he became king sombra and trapped the ponies until the heart was found which intertwines Candance and Sombra story and the story with the love potion together. What if sombra was the reason, what if the crystal empire was actually his and because he turned evil instead of actually restoring it he enslaved them control their mind with fear, what happens if he didnt get vaporize but instead reformed and realized what he has done, thinking he still had to save his kingdom just like how the pillars didnt know what century they were in.
Cadance is not the princess mentioned.. I think she is the princesses daughter. It is possible Cadance's mother was the past Princess of the Crystal Empire. In a lot of episodes, it says The Crystal Empire had fallen. Which makes me think that story is true.
cadence literally came out of nowhere and a princess 💀 they owe us a bigger backstory
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1000% agree
94 likesI like her because of her history with Twilight and her colors
27 likes@Backstauber I love cadence 💔
8 likes@Backstauber Damn I understand being frustrated about not having a backstory for Cadence, but hating on her is too much. She could use more development, but she is a delightful pony.
7 likesPrincess Amore mother of Cadence video call princess Amore story
1 likeYou need see sawtooth sad story 😢😢
@lillyana Duff me too
1 likeCan we all agree Cadance has the most beautiful singing voice
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me
8 likesY E S. Finally someone said it!!!
15 likesYa me 2
2 likesYess
1 likeYasssssss
1 likeYessss
1 likeYeah even her talking voice is to royal and good I still don't understand why she is so underrated
16 likesKinda I guess
0 likesNo..?
0 likesYes
2 likesLuna sings way better
1 like100%
4 likes@lamxuannhu What a short form🙄🙄
0 likesdefo i really love her singing voice and i still think we need to see and hear more of her (even if the series is over)
3 likesHer voice in "You'll Play Your Part" is absolutely amazing
6 likesI. Think 🤔 cadance is the 👸🏼 of love 💖
1 likeI think 🤔 cadence is the most beautiful princess 👸🏼
1 likeYES OMG I ONLY LIKE HER SONGS
1 likeChrysalis has an amazing singing voice too.
0 likesTold you cadance is fake
0 likesThis explains why her full name "mi amore cadenza" translates to "I love cadence". Maybe after the super strong spell was broken, the only "name" she remembered having was the one thing the stallion kept repeating. That's why her name is Cadence and not "Cadence of the heart and soul" or something.
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7 a lepší a lepší a lepší a lepší 🍋🍌🐈⬛🦒w a lepší a levnější než v roce se mi zdá se že se zeptat zda je to v pohodě ale i v pohodě ale i v pohodě ale i v pohodě ale i v pohodě ale i na tom případě je 🐯🤨
2 likesthat makes sense
4 likesI'm not trying to defend Cadance's actions, but it would make sense that her love spell created a sense of "puppy love" in the couple instead of something more profound-- Cadance is a teenager at this time, and having been one, teenagers tend to have a warped perception of love. At that time, love is hormonal, senseless, and distracting. I can't count the times I neglected to tell my partners what was wrong in the relationships when I was younger, because I was simply too distracted by the few good moments to stop and think about the mountain of bad. Cadance hasn't done anything like that in the present because she's an adult, and probably has had time to mature her understanding of love beyond that "puppy love" we see her force on the arguing couple.
380 likesI think that perhaps she is their daughter and that’s why she can do the “love” spell, because her parents were affected by the potion.
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That exactly what I thought 🤔
213 likesI was gonna say the same thing!!
111 likesSame
45 likesOk
21 likesYes
23 likesA born-alicorn huh?
53 likessame
12 likesCant be cus the birth from an alicorn was never a thing until Flurry Heart came along- So Cadence was not the daughter of the Alicorn in the book, pretty sure its Cadence herself-
72 likes@LZH1703 i dont think she was born alicorn, flurry heart was the first known alicorn that was born an alicorn. I think Cadance was born a pegasus (if this theory is true and she is the daughter of the two), and then she earned her horn from Celestia
121 likes@reeka You must be a unicorn to become an alicorn
12 likes@Ashwitha Peddi(Student) I know, but she used magic or something to become an alicorn
4 likes@LZH1703 CELELSTIA AND LUNA ARE HIPICRITS
2 likes@LZH1703 not a born one. she became an alicorn after she did a love spell.
15 likesWait call me dumb but I just wanna say something didn’t it say in the book she was found in a forest and Princess Celestia adopted her as her niece?
27 likesyeah that would make sense.
6 likesGood point
6 likesSame
6 likes@LZH1703 it said no allicorn was born before flurry heart
9 likes@chae I don't know but I think that would effect the theory to much if that where true
2 likesI thought that too
2 likes@reeka yeah, I hope he makes a video on how she became an alicorn so young
5 likes@Rosa Cat no, it never says that
3 likesI thought that
1 like@Faith Taylor Ok, but how did she become an alicorn without Celestia, tho?
1 likeI kind of think shes their daughter too. Also just so some of you know in the comic it says that cadence was born a pegasus.
9 likesThis makes sense considering she was taken in when she was younger so this could be why, her parents were too overcome with love to look after her. Maybe this is why she became an alicorn, she was already a princess so maybe Celestia didn't seek her out because she did something like Twilight did (create new magic) but maybe she did it because she knew of her royal blood. Or maybe she took her in then she made new magic, maybe she took her parents spell and recreated it to be a love potion to help solve issues between couples.
11 likesBig brain time
1 likeThe real question is was the prince a Pegasus? If so then it can be possible. As her past story says that she was an abandoned baby Pegasus. Maybe they left her in fear that if people knows who she is she'll be in danger
10 likes@Rosa Cat no ive heard that anyone can become an alicorn, a lot of people think that cadance was a pegasus from the start. but yes, you could be right
4 likesPrecisely what I thought
0 likesI thought that
0 likesOoh, love this. Like the potion was genetically passed down in her genes? Even if she DID start as a pegasus, that magic could've laid dormant (like many inactive "sleeper" genes) until getting a horn triggered it.
6 likes@LZH1703 She was born as a pegasus
4 likes@Rosa Cat On the MLP wikipedia page for Candace, it says "Alicorn. Formerly pegasus" and a writer for the show has confirmed this
9 likes@Hepoxni Oh, ok
0 likesOKAY just got a check it is black and I got a ticket for? Men soln
0 likesI literally thought the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 likes@Rosa Cat :)
0 likesWhat's funny and terrifying is that is somewhat the same backstory of Voldemort.
1 likeI thought that to
0 likesThat what I was going to say. It does make sense tho
0 likes@Christnappa4 Voldemort was conceived via rape with the use of Amortentia and thus was unable to love. If Cadence was conceived in a similar way, assuming love potions/poisons work the same way in this universe, no way she'd be the Princess of Love. She wouldn't be able to know love. If love potions/poisons don't work the same way in this universe, well that's just silly.
2 likesHer parents could be the past rulers of the Crystal Empire. Find my comment if you want to know the full story! Or, I can just post it here maybe.
1 likeSame but what pony was her mom then? Celestial never mentioned another alicorn princess and about everyone saying no because flurry was the first alicorn ever to be born an alicorn ..... WHO IS SAYING CADENCE WAS A ALICORN WHEN SHE WAS BORN ... no one ..... no ofende also i dont mean to ofend anyone :)
1 like@Bianca torres gonzalez I don't think Cadance was an alicorn when born, but a pegasus. She got her wings when she realized the meaning of true love. Now about her mom... IDK. The alicorn with the love poison is sometimes portrayed as a unicorn so...
1 like@SilverLuna actually she is a alicorn :^ her wings are kinda in the corner of the image but your right i think cadence got her wings couse she saved a village just a though :)
0 likesThought
0 likesSame
1 likeYep...
1 likeI thought the same as well! Or maybe it was her mother and not father and she wanted others to feel what she did-? Idk
1 like@Bianca torres gonzalez I know that she is an alicorn. I thought like sometime during the episode, the wings in the book disappeared. But yeah, she is an alicorn.
1 likeomg your so right but ... I dont think they ware an actual cupel they ware in a spell so im not saying i have any other idea im just saying you may wanna think more about it
1 like@LZH1703 maybe she was a unicorn and got her wings when she first saved someone relationship
1 likeExactly what I thought
0 likesIf Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)
2 likesYeah!
0 likessame I like that
0 likes@Rosa Cat actually in canon cadence was a Pegasus before she became an alicorn so you frogot that
2 likesAnd it may be in a book,but atleast it’s more canon then other theories we have
@Miniş Dünyası yes but they said that flurry hearth was the first bron alicorn and cadence said that as well
0 likesYeah but remember she's was the third princess there was only two before she was announced princess
0 likesYeah but remember there was three princess there is only two before she became princess
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes@yamary figueroa well maybe she was a good person and some how become a princes and than got the love potion like twilight
0 likesExactly what I thought
0 likesThought the same
0 likesYou say exactly what I think !
0 likes@Tangle Hamain Celastia could give her wing aflter something exeptionnal she did (maybe save her parents form the spell and teach them what is love or something like that)
1 like@Marie Vanexe Yes I know
0 likesbut then wouldent there be something about her mom (princess) in mlp?
0 likesOooooo
0 likessame lol
0 likesSame
0 likesthat's my theory too!!
0 likesMake sence
0 likesMaybe
0 likesSimilar to Rapunzel
0 likesI figured this makes more sense too. Because that would explain why she did not need to make a potion 🧪, and she is extremely young (like a teenager) as “Twilights foul sitter”.
0 likes... P. S. Then I forgot that “the birth of alicorns was a mystery even to Celesta & Luna, but that might have been a white lie diversion too not traumatize the moment FlurryHearts birth to Cadence & company, and ruin the unique/uncanny celebration... especially of the Royal Crystaling 👑 which I almost forgot about!
Like in Rapunzel her parents ate soup with a healing flower and now well i think you understand
1 likei think too
0 likesWow thats exactly what I was thinking
0 likesMe two!
0 likesI was thinking that too LMFAO
0 likesSame
0 likestrue that could be that Alicorn looked older
0 likesI thought the same! Either way it's a fun theory
0 likes@Tangle Hamain That doesn't make sense because in the book we see an adult alicorn, but when she did the spell she was just a little pony.
0 likesThat a good theory
0 likesThat's what I thought as well
0 likesBut then she would have been born alicorn since she had and alicorn mother! Just like Flurry Heart was born alicorn and had an alicorn mother
0 likes@LZH1703 That's what I said
0 likes@Tangle Hamain Exactly!
0 likes@LZH1703 it was stated that Cadence was born a pegasus :>
0 likesWhy aren’t you pinned
0 likesI think she is an alicorn since she got to babysit ponies, not since she was born
0 likesThat is exactly what I thought too! Personality I thought younger cadence was a teen and i don’t think she would’ve fallen in love at that age :/
0 likesYeah I thougt the same.. connects to the orfant story of her.. ^^
0 likesI was thinking that as well
0 likes@May-Nimari Same
0 likesMaybe she wasn’t their daughter, but she helped break the spell. I’m not saying her being their daughter is wrong or bad, but I think it’s more likely that she helped break the spell, rather than be a product of it.
0 likes@Rosa Cat Where does it say you HAVE to be a unicorn to be an Alicorn?
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası No, cus the birth of an Alicorn was never a thing until Flurry Heart- The princesses said it themselves!
0 likesThat's what I thought!
0 likessame
0 likes@Tangle Hamain I thought they said that in the show
0 likesSame here!
0 likesSame
0 likes@LZH1703 We know that cadence was a pegasus prior to being an alicorn.
0 likes@Tangle Hamain Maybe Celestia & Luna said that because they didn’t want the main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn
1 like@Miniş Dünyası Doesnt make much sense-
1 likeThat’s what I thought 💭
0 likesThat’s what I thought!
1 like@Tangle Hamain celestia was born alicorn. so I was thinking that they have seen birth of alicorns before but back when they lived outside of equastria and it was the first time they saw the birth of an alicorn in equastria since they probably had to become alicorns like twighlight and cadence
0 likes@Aleeza It was never said that Celestia was born an alicorn..
1 likeThat’s what I thought!
1 likeBut that seems to contradict the fact that an Alicorn birth is "something Equestria has never seen" - your theory would suggest that Cadence could possibly be the first Alicorn birth.
3 likes@Tanbir H not really, it just means she is their daughter
0 likesSame
1 likeSame
1 likeSame
0 likesi gave u a like bc u used proper gramar......."affected"....
2 likesya
2 likes@Rosa Cat that is not true cadance was originally a pegasus
0 likesSame
2 likesSame
1 likeThat's what I thought
1 likeMe too
0 likesBefore we say princess Caden is her daughter we need to learn more duh!
0 likesBefore we stay princess Caden is her daughter we need to learn more duh!
0 likesMy exact thoughts!
1 likeThat's what I thought!!
2 likes@Sonia Shanker well she might have been the book is still not cannon
0 likes@Spooktacular I can't believe you replying to me. Hope you reply to this one!😃
0 likesthats what i thought too... or maybe a granddaughter
2 likes@Wen and C true
0 likesPossibly she is the daughter and because the parents were separated she stayed with her father, because of this she was raised under 'love.' And maybe since this story was a long time ago, her father must've died and Caydence is using the baby sitting services as a way of spreading the spell her father had used on her mother? But it is just a theory of mine.
2 likes@Ashwitha Peddi(Student) Either way, I think she is possibly handing it down, like generation from generation, just unsure of the connection
0 likes@Ashwitha Peddi(Student) I know
0 likesExactly
1 likeYour right
1 likeYes
1 likeTotally agree. There's a reason pregnant mothers aren't supposed to drink alcohol, smoke, use certain medications or use recreational substances. Because the chemicals will have an effect on the baby. The princess could have got pregnant with Cadence while under the influence and if Cadence was also born an alicorn like Flurry that still wouldn't contradict Celestia saying alicorns weren't born in Equestria. The kingdom from the story could have been outside Equestria's borders.
1 likeThat’s what I thought to
1 likeBruh that’s what I said
0 likes@Anii Saddler What do you mean?
0 likesSame
2 likes@LZH1703 its wrong she became an alicorrn like twilight after deafting prisimia and she became a royal niece of celestia and she got her cutie mark as the crystal heart ❤ and she knew that she'll rule one fay
0 likesI don’t think that proves she was a unicorn to start with, she might’ve just said that because she hadn’t practiced flying in a while. In Sawtooths other video where he is solving Ali pens, he says that in order to become an alicorn you most likely have to have energy from all three pony kinds. So it is possible that Cadance was a Pegasus to start with, and therefore became an alicorn (got her horn) because Princess Celestia gave her magic from all three pony kinda. No hate here, just expressing my my thoughts!
2 likesAutocorrect, sorry, where it says “Ali pens”, I meant to say “Alicorns”. My bad!! Also, the theory of Cadance being born a Pegasus is not confirmed, so this is just a thought.
1 likeLol she can't be born like this when they are affected by the love potion
0 likes@LZH1703 and she wasn't a born alicorn
0 likes@Tangle Hamain and cadance isn't in the book
0 likes@reeka she waaaas born Pegasus and was not the daughter of the two
0 likes@Rosa Cat nope you can be anu
0 likes@Rosa Cat it was celestia who can make her an alicorn seriously tia is the only one who can make ponies an alicorn
0 likes@reeka she is a pegasus
0 likes@Seven colour dreams she is a pegasus
0 likes@Bianca torres gonzalez she... Was... Born....pegasus
1 likeIt’s just a theory, like the video says, she could be the daughter of the two. It’s a theory.
1 likeCadance is now an alicorn but like I said, might have been born a Pegasus. Just like the theory that she is the daughter of the two, it is a theory and may not be real.
1 like@HOW is voldemort ??????
0 likes@Tangle Hamain your probably confused and im confused myself about the story
0 likesbut she was jut a- ohhhhhhhhh makes sense wait we dont really- ok the father..ye but why did they just leave her until she was found? she was a princess kind of..
1 like@HOW is voldemort yes srry :v
0 likes@Armando Lico Nah Cadence was not a princess yet as she was born as just a pegasus but she got to become an Alicorn quite early on so yeah- Hmmmm-
0 likesMaybe?🤔
0 likesMaybe but remember the prince and the princes splite up or he found someone else and the potion already absorbed into her dna but that what i think tho
1 likeI thought the same thang
1 likeYeah, same!
1 likeYeah, thats what I was thinking
1 likeMaybe
1 likewho knows the dark secrets of pony DNA
1 likeMe too
1 likei agree
1 likeMhm, and it makes a lot of sense because Cadence’s daughter is also an alicorn!
1 likeI think your comment makes some sense and I think that princess who was effected had given birth to cadence before she was dead
0 likesYes
0 likesYea
0 likesBut then why would celestia and luna never have seen an baby born an alicorn, wouldn't when they met cadence have asked and she would have said she was born that way?
0 likesI thougth the same
0 likesThats exactly what i thought :D
0 likesIdk
0 likesYes I think that to
1 like@Seven colour dreams No,the prince was an earth pony,but it's still possible considering the cake twins were both unicorn and pegasus,but their parents were earth ponies.
0 likesThat's what I was going to say....😜
1 likeSame
0 likesThat makes so much sense Bentisal!
1 likeHey look up YouTube channel it’s powerpuffgirl1230
0 likesThat’s what I was thinking too
1 likei thought of the same, like what if it was her ancestor or parents or grandparents?
1 like@Rosa Cat cadence WASENT a unicorn.....
0 likesShe was a Pegasi
Agreed
0 likesThat's what I thought.
1 likeI think that too
1 like@Rosa Cat no you don't (or the ponys i mean) what about cozy glow apparently she was an alicorn and ahe was a pegasus
0 likes@June the moon whaat is a hipicrit???
0 likesSame
0 likesBut now that I think about that twice it can’t be possible because cadence turned into an Alicorn by celestia
0 likes@Tangle Hamain she probably forgot ab. That
0 likes@Pavel Dostál lol
0 likesHmmmm.......FLURRY HEART!!!!!!!
0 likes@Rosa Cat that’s not true
0 likesAND THATS WHY PRINCESS C CAME TO HER RESCUE!
0 likesthat's exactly what im thinking. it would make sense, considering the show has seemed to confirm magic is, to a degree, genetic in some ways.
1 likeI think canden is the pin session or not
0 likesI think canden is the pinses or not
0 likesSamee
1 likeI thought the same thing
1 likei thought that too
1 likethis comment is a rlly good thought
1 likeMe too!
1 likeTHAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT
1 likeI also think so
1 likeI thought the same thing! It's still a really believable story that he has shared.
1 like@Tangle Hamain flurry heart was the first alicorn that was born an alicorn, not the first child of a alicorn-
0 likesi also think that they were so distracted by their love for eachother, they never had time to love cadence. so basically celestia had to raise cadence??? this is just a theory-
1 likeOmg saame
1 likeSame,so she grow Thinking that that was okay but celestea came and taught her that that's not the way that should go and that she can't do that
1 like@Tangle Hamain But Celestia and Luna had to have been naturally born alicorns. I mean, that would make sense why their roles are so important, plus the fact that they were the first princesses. Cadence and Twilight are not naturally born alicorns, and basing on how Twilight became a princess, wouldn't Cadence have to go through the same process?
1 like@~ Lucid_Nightmares ~ No cus of what Celestia and Luna said when Flurry was born....
0 likes@Rosa Cat that is not true, any pony can become an alicorn.
0 likes(Opinion ) maybe twilight's parents is hiding that shining armor is a
0 likesearth pony and he had feelings or cadence and told his parents and
He made a love potion and then out of control princess Celestia came and separated them until they found real love thay they turned shining armor in to a unicorn
I thought that too
1 likesmart 👍✨🤩😍😏
0 likes@Rosa Cat
1 likeim not so sure with "you must be a unicorn to turn into an alicorn" like in MLP: The New Generation; Sunny turned into an alicorn even though she was an earth pony. So that could lead to the conclusion that the way to be an alicorn is not by if your and alicorn or not; but if you earn the magic of all 3 pony colonies from doing a major action in an event.
and the alicorn-ness is hereditary and that’s why flurryheart also recieved it without directly earning it
1 likeI agree
1 likeWas gonna say the same
0 likesSmart
1 likeYes you are right I mean a love potion can also be resuluted as a foal and that foal is 100% Cadence. I mean her father created the love potion and she knows the love spell might be a genetic ability from father to daughter.
1 like@Rosa Cat Nope! Cadence was a Pegasus, it doesn't matter what way around !! I believe that even an earth pony can become an alicorn with enough magic
0 likesNah maybe not but maybe 🤔
0 likesHey how can cadence be their daughter you have to remember that celestia and Luna is two princesses none of them are prince silly
0 likesSame
0 likesTHATS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT
0 likesNooo that’s not right
0 likesshe was 1st a pegasus so no
0 likes@Rosa Cat no actually , from the book it says shes a pegasas
0 likesYes
1 likeThat has a lot of evidence but who knows
1 likeBut she didn't have the magical ability to cast spells because she was born a pegasus
1 likemaybe
1 likeI was having similar thoughts
1 likethanks
0 likes@Rosa Cat no, its literally canon because in the book cadence is a pegusai
0 likesI was thinking that too
0 likesOhhh that makes sense
2 likesYeah maybe
1 like@LZH1703 GASP
0 likesYeah it makes sense if you look at the book she was abandoned at a lil foal
1 likeReally
1 likeI had the same idea!
1 likeThat would be sus…her parents made her right away or something? Kinda weird brooooo
0 likesSAME ITS OLSO A REALLY GREAT ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!
1 likeYEAH I WAS GONNA SAY-
1 likeI doubt she was the victim 😭😭😭
@Rosa Cat in the new generation we learn you dont have to be
0 likesI think I connected the dots, so thanks for the help with this! I think the alicorn was Cadence's mother, they had Cadence, and due to the love poison, I think that's why Cadence can do it to other ponies. She gained some of the love poison genes or whatever you should call it, then now she can use it to make other ponies act like they just drank the potion a little. Also, the kingdom they talk about could very well be the Crystal Empire! It fell because the two royals were distracted when King Sombra bowed to darkness, with the events of Sawtooth's theory of Sombra's past coming before. But what does everyone think? How could this fit into the lore of My Little Pony?
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This is one mostly might’ve happened
2 likesIn comics the canon timeline that was put forth is that the queen of the crystal empire is a distant relative of Cadence and the queen was "killed" (tho technically not actually dead as Hasbro has a no death rule for mlp) and then Sombra took over. so if you accept the comics as canon, then no that queen is not the same character as the princess from the hearts and hooves story.
2 likesI have some ideas. Personally,I believe that maybe the spell used on the princess,went on for so long it had grown attached to her. When Celestial broke the spell,the magic of it stuck with Cadence,and it became her element. As Cadence started recovering from the years she spent trapped in her spell,she found comfort in helping others with love. She was young,and didn't understand that her spell was not helping,because that was all she knew. Slowly,she grew as a person and found the meaning behind healthy and true love. Hearts and hooves day was created as a celebration of the day she was freed!
61 likesI belive that Cadence is the love Child of the Prince and Alicorn and Celestia took her in and made sure she was okay.
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Then how cadence become an alicorn
4 likes@cess_14 Even though the Pony in the book had been depicted as an Alicorn it doesn’t necessarily mean that cadence would have been born one as previously said when flurry heart was born celestial and Luna had never seen anything like that before and keep in mind that the male was an earth pony.
22 likesYeah that makes sense
1 like@Yuzufox_♥️ oh..
0 likes@Orphvee yeah.
0 likesViola Moon Yes, that's how I think it happened too.
0 likesRecovering from abusive and codependent relationships is a very real struggle. But it teaches you how to love in a healthier way by setting boundaries and communicating your needs instead of relying on fairy tale type love. Honestly, a pony that had been through that process very much deserves to be the princess of love!
25 likesAlso how did Cadnce earn her cutie mark? No one knew the crystal Empire existed.
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Well the princesses are quite old 1000+ according to the story so Cadance may be a similar age back when the crystal empire still existed
190 likes@Junko Enoshima well she doesn’t very look very old, only somewhat 15 years ago she was just regular sized, so I don’t think she’s old since Twilight didn’t take like 100 years to grow and have her hair all moving
261 likes@Junko Enoshima cadence babysat twilight and she was a pegasus in the flashback so chances are cadence is not even close to being as old as celestia and luna
124 likesI always assumed her cutie mark represented the love spell she could do rather than the Crystal Empire
83 likesI have the answer to that.
109 likesIn the book that was mentioned at the beginning of the video it's explained. Cadence lived in a small town that was being terrorized by a witch. Cadence ended up stealing a crystal heart necklace from her and discovered that the necklace was what was making the witch evil, Cadence helped the witch and then found herself in the same place that Twilight was in when she got her wings. Cadence got her horn and cutie mark at the same time and then went to live with Celestia
@Zoe Jacobs That makes sense
7 likesThx for telling me
3 likesgood point
1 likeExcept the princesses and the Empire vanished in the frozen north for a 1000 yrs.
3 likesEdit:the princesses saved the empire from king sombra.
By spreading love, she was the only pegasus in the earth pony town, but she was a friend.
7 likesI think she earned her cutie mark by spreading love around her. She didn't know specifically that she was going to rule a long lost kingdom, but she knew she was going to have some kind of destiny. She knew her destiny was something to with love and when she found out that the Crystal Empire needed love to protect itself she knew thats where she needed to be. SHe could protect the Empire with the love she spreads.
11 likesits simple mAgIc
2 likesGood point
1 likeMaybe cadence, because of her destiny, was already gifted a cutie mark. Cadence was seemingly born with overwhelming love and kindness within her, maybe just bc the empire was still disappeared, her destiny couldn't be completed yet, but she still completed much of it as the princess of love.
3 likes@☆MCAgent8☆ she had her cutie mark way before that
3 likes@Jack Sparrow no cadence was still a alicorn
4 likesCutie marks don't necessarily represent the present. Perhaps the connection to the crystal empire simply wasn't recognized as it didn't exist, and everyone thought her cutie mark just meant love because of the heart shape. It's possible that her cutie mark knew that part of her destiny before she did.
3 likesAs other people have said, cutie marks don't always represent the present. It represents the pony's destiny. For example if we look at Twilights cutie mark it's the symbol for the element of magic with 5 small stars surrounding it representing the friends she would make in ponyville and their elements. Ofc at first she thought it just represented her talent for magic but Celestia noticed the connection to the elements of friendship
5 likesCadence most likely did something in the name of love when she got her cutie mark. And ofc it represents her future rule of the crystal empire as well
It could represent the love spell she is gifted in and how she represents love between ponies as well as her future role as the princess of the Crystal Empire. Similar to how Twilight’s represents both her strong magic ability along with her future connection to the elements of harmony.
1 likeIt's a heart so she probably got it while spreading love
0 likesIt just had a double signification since it was made of crystal, but she learnt the other signification only later on
@Jack Sparrow No, it had horns too
1 like@Jack Sparrow cadence was still a alicorn back then
1 likereality knew
0 likesYou are wrong there, because Twilight,Celastia and probably Luna too, oh and also Cadance might be from the cristal empire, that's why the crystal ponies accepted her so easily so there you have it.
0 likes@Jack Sparrow At the flashback, Princess Cadence had a horn. She just had Pegasus wings.
0 likes@Zoe Jacobs The comic isn't cannon btw
0 likes@BugoyTheDoge I didn't know there was a comic
0 likesI think her cutie mark is love
0 likesUm no she was a alicorn in the flashback not a Pegasus there was a alicorn
1 like@Zoe Jacobs isn’t that fan video with a song
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0 likes@☆MCAgent8☆ she already had a cutie mark when she saved the crystal empire tho
0 likesDestiny 😂
0 likesthe love spell Cadance put on the couple, i think she made them realize that a pedicure isn't important and spending time and help financially with their spouse is much more important and helped them make a better decision
10 likesA theory I personally like is that Twilight was groomed from the very beginning to be next in line for the throne, Celesta saw her potential, and knew she would be the next princess, so to prepare her she made cadence her foulsitter so she can get used to being around royalty.
7 likesI always wanted to know about cadence thank you and I truly think Kayden is the princess in the book I can't wait to see another video
9 likesA part of me wants to think she’s their daughter, but when Flurryheart was born, everyone was surprised that she was an Alocorn, including Cadence
2 likesI usually assumed the Prince and Princess were either Cadence’s parents , grandparents, or relatives in some other way💖
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it might make sense cause i feel like cadence wasnt surprised by flurry heart being born an alicorn so maybe she was also born as an alicorn that is if we go with that theory
154 likes@Pastel KittyYT Cadence was originally a Pegasi, and like Celestia said flurry was the first born Alicorn.
164 likesIf Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)
64 likesYeah I think the same
10 likes@Pastel KittyYT actually i don't think cadence was born as a alicorn, don't you remember the episode when flurry heart was born they said it was the first time a baby was born as an alicorn.
50 likes@Miniş Dünyası but then Princess Celestia won't say flurry heart is the first born Alicorn
20 likes@Natalia Maybe Celestia & Luna said that because they didn’t want the main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn
20 likes@Miniş Dünyasıthen why does the regal princess need to lie
9 likes@Miniş Dünyası and who is cadance mom , a lotta people also think Princess Amore is Princess Candace mom
12 likeswhile princess amore is not an alicorn
8 likesI think princess amore is princess cadance mom, their share the same destiny and similar cutie mark
9 likes@Natalia Princess Amore is in The Comics and Comics aren’t 100% Canon. But if Cadence’s parents were normal ponies Cadence most likely outlived them. They weren’t in The Canterlot Wedding. And Cadence must have been living for a while since in The Season 4 Finale Tirek knew Cadence that’s why Cadence and The Royal Sisters gave their Magic to Twilight. And Tirek was gone for a Thousand Years so Cadence is probably over A Thousand Years Old.
15 likes@Narwulf we don't have proof about that. think about this- Celestia and Luna said that they had never seen the BIRTH of an alicorn before. This still opens a possibility that they HAD seen a natural alicorn before, but not it's BIRTH. And this natural alicorn was Cadence. It actually connects quite well with the theory sawtooth has put in this video.
11 likes@Kristinne Lapsa they said they had never SEEN but they didn't say that it was the first time a baby was born as an alicorn
10 likes@Navita Dashore Ohh.
3 likesHard to admit it, i like this theory
5 likesI ❤ ur vids
5 likes@ALHASSANE KEITA Aaww thx🥰
4 likesHello I'm your fan
5 likesCadence is their niece
3 likesI thought it was her parents
2 likesMaybe
2 likesSame
2 likesYou are maybe right like the princess can be cadence 's grand mother and the potion that was given to her grandmother never ended in real and the effect of the love potion was moving thought heditatory and that is why it can be true that flurry hart also have the same magic
8 likes@Narwulf that could make sense she could be love a pegasus but then celestia made her a alicorn and she gained the power of the love potion
6 likes@Narwulf Maybe cadence was born in a unknown land or maybe even was a channeling that Somone was a good one
2 likesAnd she made Celestia think she is a Pegasus
@Miniş Dünyası sombra has a horn that prince in the picture doesn’t
4 likesHi I watch ur vids :)
3 likesSame
3 likesSame here this makes sense
3 likesSame
3 likesYeah
3 likes@☆𝒞𝓊𝓇ℯ ℱ𝓁ℴ𝓇𝒶 ☆ Aaww thx😊 Hope u enjoy💞
3 likesYeah, I think it affected her when born
2 likesI agree
1 like@Miniş Dünyası I think the name of princess mi amore cadenza ,s mother is amore
2 likes@teena bhardwaj This is like The Lion King.but just with Ponies
3 likesMe too
1 likeI thought they were her parents or grandparents because that would explain how she became a alicorn and how her daughter was born one, maybe she was born a alicorn and it's genetics that made her daughter born one.
2 likesPerhaps Viola but celestia never saw a alicorn baby so I doubt it but she could have been born not a alicorn but if she had became an alicorn then why? Why would celestia give her the ability to be a alicorn and if cadence was born a alicorn wouldn’t celestia saw her as a small foul
2 likesBut I don't actually think so or else you realize that when she was a babysitter she wasn't a princess so that's why I don't think that her parents or any relative
3 likes@Addie She was a princess when babysitting Twilight. At least in "A Canterlot Wedding"
2 likes@Viola viola! I subscribe you!
2 likesSameeee
2 likesI mean that would make more sense
2 likes@Emir Ilham Isbawandi awe thank u!💗
1 like@Natalia Maybe Celestia & Luna didn’t want The Main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn. With the shock of Flurry Heart it might have not been the right time and place to sat that Cadence was born as an Alicorn.
2 likesI thought like that to
1 likeYes thats what i thought
1 likeUthh
1 likesame
1 likeSame
1 likeI agree
1 likeMe too
1 likeSame
1 likeRisotto
1 likeA
1 likeSyc
@Natalia they actually sorta did
1 likeThat’s what I thought
1 like@Narwulf Well in some cases, genes can skip a generation. Cadence could’ve been born a pegasus to an alicorn and (I assume) an earth pony. It’s not that far a stretch. Just look at the Cake family
3 likesShe had to be a relative because I feel that cadence is way to young for love in general when she was foal sitting Twilight
1 like@Miniş Dünyası trure
1 likeYes!
2 likes😮😮😮😮😮😮
1 like@Pastel KittyYT 🦄👸🏾🤴🏿🦄👸🏾🤴🏿🍫🧜🏾♀️🦋
1 likeYeah I would think that's her parents
3 likesYea I thought the same 😄😄
1 likeNo it's Pinkie Pie she dressed up as an Alicorn pls don't question me
1 likeThat could be possible!
1 likebruuhhh thats making more sense
1 likeThat makes so much sense!!!
1 likeYes
0 likes@Natalia actually, princess amore is princess cadance's, like, great-great-great-great-great-grandmother but they ARE distantly related, and also, im pretty sure princess amore is an alicorn, at least in the wiki i think
0 likesI’m so happy for you girl
1 likeTHAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT!!!
0 likesI would say that they are ancestors of Cadence because she seem to young for that to ever have happened to her
0 likesI agree
0 likesSame
0 likesSame
0 likesTHAT MAKES MUCH SENSE!
2 likesOmg same-
0 likes🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
0 likesQ
0 likesYep
0 likes@Pastel KittyYT In season 6 when Twilight and her friends found out that Flurry Heart was born as an alicorn ,Celestia had said that no pony had ever been born as an alicorn
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası nope this is all wrong the mlp creators just made characters with no backstory they just made them and don't expect people to ask so may questions lol
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası no
0 likes@Natalia celestia didn't say she was the first alicorn she said she was really shocked because they had never seen an alicorn norm expect themselves
0 likes@Nataliaher backstory is in the book her parents are unknown she was brought up in a earth pony village then a evil thing came wanted steal love she blah blah defeated teleported somewhere= alicorn stay with celestia ya ya ya the yup
0 likesYe
0 likesThat’s the one that makes more sense to me because if it’s her parents it explains why her name was literally Love, and would mean she grew up watching an unhealthy marriage based on magic and taking people’s choice away. Which is why true love is what she seeks so desperately with her magic, and why Celestia took her under her wing, to let her see as many families as possible, and avoid her arguing parents. Which explains why as a teenager she’s just focused on making the fighting stop, not fixing the issue. It would be a wonderful basis for WHY her relationship with Shining Armor is so strong, especially because she would have seen Twilight’s parents and their theoretically healthy marriage - teaching her to finally find a love based on equals and choice, and how that pure love led to Flurry Heart, an Alicorn we’ve never seen before - symbolic of breaking the cycle of unhealthy relationships. (Cuz let’s be real, royalty doesn’t tend to lead to the happiest of marriages - looking at you Henry the 8th.)
0 likesWhat prince
0 likesYp
0 likesProb relative
1 likeThat does make sense
1 likei’ve always thought that cadence became an alicorn because she created that love spell and was the only one to know how to cast it (as far as we know), similar to how twilight finished starswirl’s spell.
3 likesNever thought about the sketchy part, but it may be because she was still very young in that flashback scene, thus immature and inexperienced in love. i imagine she controls the effect of the spell and (mis)judged that the puppy eyes was the best way to deal with the issue.
I like how you focus so hard on MLP and make up these very interesting theories!
11 likesWait I love this! I'm never going to be able to look at Cadence the same!
5 likesOmg this makes so much sense because if this did happen and “cadences kingdom fell” it could have fallen because king sombra took over, and when cadences came back it was too late because celestia had already banished king sombra but he took the kingdom with it. So when celestia freed cadences she felt terrible so never did those spells again.
8 likesDo you think its possible that cadence knows an even longer lasting love spell, and cast it on shining armor when she used to have that crutch. eventually shining armor thought the love was real and their whole reletionship stated on or might even be a spell?
3 likesAs much as I’d LOVE this theory, I have to say we need to take in Chrysalis into account aswell. Chrysalis’s form is in the form of an alicorn and based off of both Celestia’s and Luna’s reactions in the wedding episode we can confirm she has been alive for a long time, and that
0 likesCelestia knows Chrysalis. Its uncertain that if luna knows Chrysalis, but we do know that Celestia does. I’d also like to bring in the fact of how tall Chrysalis is. As we know when you are an alicorn you grow if you have been alive for a very long time. We ALSO know that Chrysalis feeds on love and is the queen of the changelings. What if Chrysalis was the pony in the story, and in order to break free she had to result to who she is now? Or maybe it is the effects of the potion that continues to change her form and instead of being in love with someone she has to feed on it because the other pony is gone? I think Chrysalis being the pony of the story/ maybe being the past queen would make a lot of sense of her being apart of the equation aswell. Putting Cadence into the spotlight does makes sense, but what about Chrysalis? There are many things that we have to question. Id also like to bring in the my little pony comic. Supposedly there was a “reverse” comic, and Chrysalis was in it, and she looked to be the queen. There is a specific theory I am also referring to its called, “Who is the lost crystal princess”, by Conspirapon3.
Edit: So as im rewatching the royal wedding episode(where cadence is introduced) I had realized something. Cadences full name is Princess Mi Amore Cadenza. Mi amor means “my love” in spanish. Lets assume mi amore has something to do with love. Anyways her name and what it means isnt what in trying to get at. Her name is quite long, so its best to assume that Cadence is from a long line of royals maybe. Now another thing, I’d like to reference your video and how Cadences spell to help the couple out is the same as the potion in a way. Introducing some other comments, what if Cadence could be a possible descendent of the princess in the story? It could also make sense on why flurry heart was born an alicorn. It could be because not just one person in the family was an alicorn. Now another piece id like to introduce is how Chrysalis invaded and why she invaded. To my memory it is because of the love that could supply her and her colony, but what if there was another reason? What if Cadences and shining armors marriage is what the past crystal king and queens could not do. And if Chrysalis is the past queen is it possible she would want to stop this maybe because of jealousy? Im not sure. Id also like to point out on how Celestia was the one who arranged the marriage between Shining armor and Cadence. Celestia may have made a mistake in the past with Chrysalis and the other person and that is why she arranged it with shining armor and cadence because the marriage between chrysalis and other person had severe consequences. It sounded better in my head i promise
I was lying awake last night and I was thinking about Princess Cadence's role in the Crystal Empire and how she was already with the Crystal Heart cutie mark without even knowing about the Crystal Empire. Also where she came from and how this can relate to her connection to the crystal heart. Let's start with the older royalty of the Crystal Empire before Sombra. The Princess at the time was Amore, which is mentioned in Sombra's Origins and the Guardians of Harmony comic. Along with this information, she could be more relevant than we know because she was in the game (mlp magic princess) as an event. So let's think about the name of Cadence. Her name is Princess Mi Amore Cadenza. And in Spanish "Amore" means love and the previous princess of the Crystal Empire meant "love" while cadence's name means "my love". It's almost too closely connected to be ignored. My theory is that Cadence could be the secret daughter of Amore. To prove this by the fact Cadence was found in a pony village. The keyword here is found. And she also received her cutie mark when she was becoming an alicorn. I think it was her birthright from Amore since if she is her mom she was already powerful and the only unicorn crystal pony. My full theory is that Radiant Hope took cadence away to another village when Sombra became dark because radiant hope was close to Sombra and she knew how bad this would be for the empire when she realized there was no coming back. She is said to see herself as a princess in the crystal heart but what if it wasn't her she saw and instead she saw cadence. After all amore did say that she believes you decide your fate. And Radiant was close to the two sisters before she got cursed by sombra so I'm thinking she was told about cadence as a baby by the two sisters. The sisters were probably at the knowledge of another princess of another kingdom since they ruled all of Equestria. And this would explain why they know limited on it since all they really knew about it was what hope either told them or anything amore told them since they had no business worrying about the empire if there was already a princess there. Saved cadence the baby of Amore, and brought her to a village so no one can hurt the future savior of the crystal empire. I think that this explains her connection with the crystal empire early on and since alicorns live for a long time, I think it wouldn't be a stretch to say that cadence was a baby, possibly a newborn when Sombra killed her mother. And Sombra never knew about cadence which would make sense if she was a newborn. I think Radiant hope took cadence away in the hope she could save the crystal empire from Sombra in the future once she realized the possibility of cadence being the princess in the vision instead of her. This could connect to flurry heart too since cadence could be part crystal pony and cadence dad is unknown which would be genetics since the original amore was a unicorn and all crystal ponies are only earth ponies. So if amore was born with a horn, it could be why a flurry heart was born with wings and a horn. It was adapting to new princess standards. But Cadence's fate with the ruling empire was decided by birth. I thought about this at 2 am last night and began frantically jotting notes and my knowledge. Celestia probs adopted cadence as her niece knowing she was the successor of amore so she taught her how to rule as a princess. I think Celestia was pulling the old wink out when she adopted cadence knowing well what and where she was really from. She only met Cadence out of hiding when she went into the realm and became an alicorn. ONE more final thing would be the color scheme of amore and cadence. You might find more evidence to support this theory or differ. But this is what I think and who Cadence's father might be.
1 likeMy sources are The crystal heart spell, Sombras origin, guardians of harmony, and Amore's relevance in the game by Hasbro. Meaning I think Hasbro intentionally made this connection and continued to keep it relevant.
so I'm reading this a month later and praying that I made this clear enough but it was like midnight and I was like woah when researching because I always had the theory. my ig is lilchuckofhope
yall are gonna also have to do a bit of digging to see my sources since idk how to attach my own files
Let’s stop and think about the fact that this lovely human gave us a potential backstory for this character when even the creator of the darn show didnt
8 likesCadence may have never been given an official backstory, but on some level i think the mlp writers did that on purpose you know because they knew it would give us something to speculate about, and your speculations and theories Sawtooth are by far the best i've heard, but at least we know particular minor things about Cadences past namely that she was a Pegasus before becoming an Alicorn and all that, but a little information is better than no information.XD
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Thas long comment
4 likes@im GATO rare cat Don't blame him blame the words, after all it's not his fault what he wrote in the comment required so many words. lol
7 likes@Sothisishowitendshuh? oh im not blaming them im just saying thas a long comment
2 likesYes its definetly the long comment and he is everywhere in the Brony Tube
1 like@dont worry i make new channel Oh come on, his comment maybe long but it isn't that long if you want to see a long comment you should've seen the one he posted on Sawtooth's video about the portal to the EQG world, also CD's not really everywhere in fact that's nonsense at it's best.
4 likesWhether his comment is long or not, i agree with him. Mysteries like these are what shape channels like Sawtooth's. Plus, its fun to come up with our own ideas of what happened.
7 likesfor those who are defending the writers leaving it alone because it leaves them "mysterious" for fans, you do realise you are being effectively suckered into JJ Abrams' "the mystery box", right?
4 likesThis about it, any character says that it is mysterious was never built up ever over the course of the series. You can only push the "mystery" before it becomes clear that it is all just a smokescreen to cover up the reality that the writers don't want/know how to actually write her.
Because no matter how good the fan speculation is, it is just that, speculation. It is never going to be applied until the official writers make it so. Why do you think The Force Awakens left so many questions? Because they know that the writers can just outsource all the actual work to their fans while focusing on the next action set piece.
@Sothisishowitendshuh? i agree
0 likes@pigifi what i'm saying is that people are talking more about the size of his comment and less about what's actually in it.
1 like@LightningStripe25 I think that's because they probably don't really care what the comment is about.
1 like@LightningStripe25 I was actually replying to Sawtooth's comment, not to you. Sorry for the confusion. If I was, there would be a @(insert name here) at the start like in this one.
1 like@pigifi oh! sorry, i thought you were complaining his comment was too long. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
0 likes@Kevin Morris I think I heard somewhere they died from Timberwolves
0 likesOr maybe they couldn't think of anything. 😂
0 likes“What’s cadence’s backstory”
166 likesHeart spell song: ima ruin this channeling’s hole career
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*changelling’s
4 likes*whole
4 likes@Screw_A_Username no I think she meant changelling
2 likes@i oh
2 likes@i I think she meant Changelings'
0 likesfollowing a comment I made earlier today I'm now very interested in the prince's cutie mark. Certainly was he a specialist of potions, and such an important status might be related to him being a prince.
0 likesThough I now wonder how the pillars weren't royalty, now.
So I just noticed something. Twilight has her mane flowy in the future (like how Celestia and Luna’s looked) she was around her friends a lot when she wasn’t as powerful. Celestia and Luna had manes like that and they were crazy OP and around the sun and moon all the time. Candace’s mane flowed when touching horns with Shining Armor, her significant other. I think the flowing mane represents strong alicorn magic and interaction with their title.
0 likesExcept we see Cadence at a very young age. Even taking into account her slower aging, she was clearly immature (that is why she didn't use it again, growing up to know her spell didn't fix the core issue). She was an orphan. She could well be a child from some fallen kingdom.
0 likesEven the picture in the book shows a far older pony than Cadence as a foal sitter.
You get some of her back story in the MLP comics, I found them at the public library, and they align perfectly with the show.
0 likesWe know that Cadence was a pegus, and she somehow earned a horn. I agree that those ponies in the story were Cadence's parents.
1 likeThere is a book I believe on her back story, read it in my childhood. It was about cadence and her sister but I think it mentions her origins as well
0 likesI personally think it makes more sense that the alicorn in the story would have been Cadence's predecessor, the previous princess of the Crystal Empire, rather than Cadence herself. Then it would be like Cadence's power is another bridge of healing for the whole empire, a mature and healing version of what brought them down so long ago.
0 likesI would prefer the idea that she's the daughter of, instead of the alicorn in the story. Growing up that's all she knew, she thought forced love was normal, that's why at the start in twilight's flashbacks she uses it, but no longer does now that she is older, has healed and knows better.
246 likesWhen the empire fell in her fillyhood, Celestia took her in and adopted her and yadayada...
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I agree
14 likesThis is my theory
This is how I think it would have gone, I stated my reasons in a previous comment which I accidently deleted. But I'll throw in the important stuff here. I think that Cadence was the daughter of the alicorn in the Hearts and Hooves day story (I think Isolde suits her)
Reason 1. Age. Although like you said the story was vague with the timeline. I'd have to guess that the story but be at least 500 to 1000 years old and although we don't know his age- wait (frantic google searching) As far as I know we don't know his age but I doubt that he is centuries old. Though even if Cadance was Isolde's daughter she would still be 100s of years old but maybe alicorns age slower..? I guess but it's still not solid ground to stand on that would suggest either theories but I still wanted to bring it up.
Reason 2. Storytime. If Cadance was Isolde why and how would she have the same love magic as the prince? Sure you could ague that she learned it or was always fascinated by that branch of magic but I think that's too simple and vague. Soiler. Voldemort from Harry Potter was born out of a love potion a one sided love without 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 love so he was born incapable of loving and turned out to be a heartless killer because of it. Spoiler. Rapunzel from Disney was born after her mother ate a magic flower which gave her magic powers. I think you see where I'm going with this. After Isolde drank the love potion and fell into a false love or as J.K. says, an obsession, she had Cadence who wasn't able to love anyone or if you want to make it more tragic can only love her parents who are to busy being obsessed with each other to care for her. But she can controll other people's love which she does irresponsibly when she's young to try and have some control in her life.
Reason 3. I don't have a reason 3 that I can remember. It's late my brain hurts I've been here for hours send help.
This took me almost three hours to think of and type out then half of it got deleted so I hope you enjoy.
Isolde was the most beautiful pony in all of Equestria and many a stallion wanted her hoof in marriage. She was a princess and alicorn. She turned them all down. She swore not to fall in love as her mother, Etain, had fallen in an out of love with many different suiters going through much heartbreak. Isolde promised herself that no stallion would ever get the better of her. One day Etain and Isolde went out to the kingdom of Cozbi to secure diplomatic relations. Normally Etain went by herself but aparrently there was a prince Isolde's age and them going could benefit both kingdoms. Isolde agreed- reluctantly as she knew arguing with her mother wouldn't end well. When they arrived they were led into a fancy hall with dim lighting and a single candle lit table with two chairs sat in the centre. 'I don't know what I was expecting' Isolde thought as Etain left. The prince sat at the first of the chairs and smiled at her. It wasn't a creepy smile, Isolde found it charming. She smiled back and started to pull the chair out but the prince got there first. 'Thank you' she said. 'What's your name?' 'Amir.' They chatted, ate, danced and laughed for hours and when Amir said that that night had been a blast and he really enjoyed Isolde's company and if she would be his. When Isolde rejected him saying that she only saw him as a friend. He sighed and said 'I understand but would you atleast have a drink with me? To a good friendship!' He took out a bottle intricately decorated with swirls and hearts and lines that looked like words but must've been in another language as Isolde couldn't read them. He poured them a goblet each and before they drank Isolde repeated 'To a good friendship.' Some time past. Isolde didn't know how much time but she did know that it was time spent with Amir and that's all she needed to know. Before long they got married and had a daughter called Cadence. Cadence was special, she was born without love and therefor she couldn't love. The weird thing about her though is that she could still manipulate the love of others. Though try as she might she could not make her parents love her as she wanted and deserved and the sad thing was they were the only ponies that she seemed to love. Isolde didn't spend much time with Cadence nor pay her much attention. As far as she was concerned the only thing that mattered was Amir and how lucky she was that they met. Soon Celestia heard rumors of a kingdom that falling into ruin as result of neglect from it's rulers. But when she arrived she realised that it was much more serious than negligence. She came into the throne room to see a 7 year-old Cadence trying to catch the attention of her parents as they stared into eachothers eyes, not knowing nor caring that their kingdom was falling into ruin and chaos by their hooves. Celestia recognised the dark magic immediately and tried to pull them apart and save them from the spell but they had been under the curse of forced love for to long and it had become unbreakable. With a heavy heart Celestia turned her back on the false couple and took little Cadence under her wing and back to Canterlot where with many trials and tribulations she managed to cure Cadance from her curse too.
As for the townsponies of Cozbi, Celestia sent them to the up and coming town of Mainhattan.
I also think it would be cool for Flurry Heart to go back to see her grandparents and break the curse. I can imagine Cadence forbidding her from going but that not stopping anyway and then after they have a mother-daughter moment that super sweet and nice and stuff.
If Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)
3 likes@Miniş Dünyası actually it doesn’t really explain how Cadence is an Alicorn. I believe its been confirmed that she was originally a Pegasus. Also, Celestia says “the birth of an Alicorn is something Equestria has never seen”
4 likes@Jamie L The MLP Comics and The MLP books aren’t 100% canon and Sawtooth Waves doesn’t see them as canon either. Maybe Celestia and Luna didn’t want The Main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn
2 likes@Jamie L Unicorns are the only ones who can be alicorns because they need to make new type of magic and pegasus can’t do that since they do not have horn. for example in twilights cass she became an alicorn because she created a new type of magic which is friendship
1 like@Anya that’s- not how that works- potions exist and so it’s very possible for Pegasuses to become alicorns
1 likeMine too.
0 likesLove how you remade the Bab Seed Song to look like Celestia, Luna, and Cadence!
0 likesI think the potion she was given, stayed somewhat in her, so now she has love powers. If she wasn’t that pony, maybe she was trying to get revenge on her sister who was casted by the spell., or maybe it was her mom that was spelled, and when her mom gave birth, the potion/curse, transferred to the new baby (cadence) and she didn’t want her mother’s tragedy to happen to her. It might have been that she didn’t want the new kingdom to fall, like her mother’s did. I don’t know though, what do you think? 🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄😧
1 likeHi Sawtooth Waves, I have something you might wanna know: If you remember your video about Susnet's defeat about the episode where Starlight creates corrupted timelines, there was somethibg I wondered about the last corrupted universe...where is that other Twilight? If you think for a moment, the Twilight we know and saw goong into these universes is the one from the main story -- but what about Twilights from these universe Starlight created? What hapoened to her after she failed her test? Did she just disappeared? Orrrr....did that other Twilight turned evil and destroyed Equestria...? And maybe she would be responsible for that last timeline Twilight showed to Starlight? Let me know what you think about it by replying to me.
0 likesa love potion can also be resuluted as a foal and that foal is 100% Cadence. I mean her father created the love potion and she knows the love spell might be a genetic ability from father to daughter.
1 likeSo, often in times of a love potion altering a life, if they have a child, it will often have powers resulting from the potion.
0 likesThey also can have a few side affects, like having a lack of love, be overly loving, or be a blank, where it has no resulting power affects.
In Cadences case, i belive she gained the power of love from it.
She is very trusting and loving.
Everyone around her loves her without a second thought.
And flurry heart also inherited this ability.
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Hi mom!!
0 likesWhat slightly concerns me about Cadence is the tips of her wings. If I do recall correctly, than Chrysalis' disguise did not have the deeper, violet tipped wings. Cadence also did not have them when young, and the deeper violet is first seen after Twilight rescues her from Chrysalis's clutches. And she is also not seen flying a lot after that, and during 'Three's a Crowd', she just gives the vague excuse that she's 'gotten out of practice with flying'...or whatever the exact quote was. So it looks like Chrysalis damaged her wings.
0 likesBut yeah, I do think the possibility that Cadence was the original 'love poison Alicorn' has merit, and I don't see how anyone could call her a Mary Sue. The list of feats would include using the magic of friendship/love to beat the villain, which no one can possibly complain about if they watch this show, and use her shield to keep Sombra out of the empire during S3. And, really, she and Shining Armor were swapping off with each other until Sombra attacked Shining Armor, and Cadence collapsed shortly after. Aside from that, I can't really think of any examples where she actually did anything.
I think the two ponies are Cadence’s parents. The love spell going from being what connects them into something that effects their daughter herself being born because of the potion’s spell. The parents spending too much time focusing on each other to see what their daughter is going and is neglecting her. Celestia visits a neighboring kingdom to find it falling apart and goes to confront the rulers about it only to see them being lovey dovie and inseparable while their daughter tries to figure stuff out. Celestia takes Cadence with her back to Equestria to take care of her while she tries to figure out how to help her parents. She ends up raising Cadence, and the younger becomes a babysitter to meet people and get more social, where she meets Twilight
0 likesCadence could've of been the daughter of the Princess Alicorn who took the Love Poison before abandoning her after she was born as she was adopted by two Earth ponies which makes me believe that the 'Love Poison' could be linked to Cadences love powers allowing her to manipulate love towards different ponies to fall in love or distract the couple from the current scenario which was already mentioned in the video. Maybe a little bit of the love Poison is in Cadence explaining her love related powers..
0 likesLuna and Cadence are so underrated istg their past is so much more interesting yet it's Celestial this , Twilight that. I don't hate Twilight and Celestial but they are overrated
I like this theory but imagine if instead she was their daughter. Based on the Sombra taking over the Crystal empire theory, maybe the couple were so in love Sombra easily took over. The couple didn't call for help and maybe the potion gave Cadence her magic.
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(Btw I just mixed sawtooths theory and conspirapon3s theory.)My theory is that After Celestia and Luna realized they could raise the moon and sun,they absorbed the magic of all 3 tribes and became alicorns.Then Sombra got jealous of Celestia and Luna's power.Then chrysalis asks Celestia And Luna for help.Sombra then figures out how to take the magic from all 3 tribes and gets wings.After that luna and celestia fights sombra.Thats when starswirl comes in .He put all sombras Alicorn magic in The Alicorn Amulet. Then Sombra is banished,Chrysalis is angry and takes revenge. : )
21 likesso I dont know if sombra took over the crystal empire
3 likesI love that!
4 likesThey arent because the old Crystal Empire ruler was Empress Cadenza, she is shown in one of the books.
8 likes@oOf Books, unless specifically stated, are not canon
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0 likesIf Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)
4 likes@Tophs Right Foot he did. He took over the Crystal empire before Celestia and Luna put a stop to his rein
0 likesI think this is a great theory! They’d be so in love from the spell and distracted from each other like we see with Big Mac and Cherilee that they wouldn’t even call for help when Sombra took the empire
4 likes@Ryan Pheasey Exactly Celestia Luna and Starswirl fought him and then he got banished
2 likes@Miniş Dünyası that doesnt really go with what celestia said when she realized that flurry heart was born an alicorn... she said that no alicorn was ever born
2 likesI think that too , and when the kingdom fell something happened to cadance
1 like@lizzie Curtis Maybe Celestia & Luna said that because they didn’t want the main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn
1 like@Miniş Dünyası true
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası but y b that secretive? I wish they would do a kind of sequel on the backstories of celestia, luna, and cadence
0 likes@lizzie Curtis They might have wanted to keep it a secret because it might have been hard to explain and with the shock of Flurry Heart to The The Main 6 it might have not been the time and the place for Cadence’s Backstory. But I still would have loved to have a canon Cadence Backstory
3 likesYes. But maybe it’s not the crystal empire but a forgotten kingdom.
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası but when cadence was Twilight’s babysitter She was a Pegasus. And in the books she became a alicorn because she defeated a evil witch.
0 likesMY NAME SANS MY GRILFRINDS
0 likesPRINCESS CELESTRA
PRINCESS LUNA
PRINCESS CADNIS
PRINCESS TWIN
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This video moved me emotionally i teared up lol
0 likesI love this show so much
Cadence is my favourite princess other than Twilight!! She’s so cute!! And her mane’s colours are my favourites: pink, purple and pastel yellow
0 likesCadence is as old as shining, and she was in her teens when she started baby sitting Twilight and shining is 4 maybe 5 years older than Twilight
1 likeBut i think that's how she got her horn , by remaking love magic , it could already have been there because of the holiday she just made it a spell , like Twilight made a spell to get her wings
Because the Crystal Heart spell book was licensed by Hasbro I'm pretty sure that Cadence's backstory in the book is officially canon.
0 likesWhile I do like this theory there isn't any evidence that cadence had a kingdom before the crystal empire and we know how that fell also the love potion had an effect on their eyes. We also know that the love potion can work on people who were never in a relationship while I think cadence's works only on people in a relationship. Also we don't know if the princess in the story ever reciprocated the love towards the prince but that is up for debate
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Talk about a run-on sentence-
3 likesWe know that she is related to the old Empress of the Crystal Empire, named Cadenza but we really don't know if she had a kingdom, I don't think a princess would be able to be so free at Canterlot.
6 likesI don't really think Cadance ever had her own kingdom before the Crystal Empire. When she was foalsitting Twilight in the flashback, she looked too young to even have a prince and ruled over a kingdom before all of that. And also, if you pay attention to her cutie mark which has a Crystal Heart symbol on it, its implied that Cadance's destiny is to indeed, ruling over the Crystal Empire, long before she did that.
7 likesThere's no evidence working to the contrary either as Cadance's backstory was never explored.
2 likesDo we actually know that those two were in an intimate relationship? Cause if they weren't, then the love spell according to you, it wouldn't have worked.
She was unquestionably and seemingly intrinsically known as the Crystal Princess to those of the Crystal Kingdom not "the new Princess". As such, she likely has a strong resemblance to the pre-Sombre Princess of said kingdom and possibly a legitimate claim as heiress.
2 likesPersonally, however, I am inclined to believe descendant rather than the original.
@Travis Smith especially considering she was, at least in appearance, younger when Twi was a filly.
2 likes@Electric Heart Indeed. She appeared to be early to mid teens so even accounting for differences in alicorn aging rates it seems unlikely that Cadence would have had such a relationship prior.
2 likesAnd not to be overly pedantic, but given that she was called a "babysitter" and not "nanny" or similar would also indicate (though not absolutely) sub-adult temporary caregiver.
Yeah! Hey by the way, does cadence have confirmed parents? Because I do think it could be more likely that cadence is the daughter of the two and the effects of the love potion passed onto her
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0 likesI think Cadinse had a allicorn mother that drank the love potion and as a result Cadinse was born with similar powers or abilitys to connect ponies with love spells.
0 likesIf you look at the episode description of Canterlot wedding part 1, it said “Celestia’s NEICE”, which means that either celestia has ANOTHER unknown sister or family member. BUT if she got that love spell put on her, and celestia saved her, then maybe she decided to raise her. But as you can tell cadence got her wings probably quit young, younger than twilight. But as you know, flurry heart is the first ever pony to be born as an alicorn, but maybe that’s not a coincidence, maybe it’s GENES. So if the theory about the prince casting the love spell on cadence os correct, he may have been attracted to her because she was famous for being the FIRST EVER BORN ALICORN?! The prince may have found one of cadences love potions and decided to use it on her, but since celestia may have decided to raise cadence she may have tried to teach her how to create love spells that are controlled. So maybe no one except celestia, cadence and maybe Luna know about this, but cadence may be ashamed of this and so celestia and Luna decide to keep it a secret and pretend that flurry is very special 😶😧. Just a thought 😁
0 likesTHIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE! I love this theory. @Sawtooth Waves is awesome
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0 likesIf love magic was the only magic she seemed to use at her age of baby sitting twilight, and that’s all we ever saw her do at that age, let’s assume how weak that is. Only that kind of magic, and doing basically what the potion would. If she was a Pegasus before hand, and then got her horn, it’d make sense for her to only know few spells. So maybe over time she learned more.
I have a theory that the princess from the book in "Hearts and Hooves day" may have been the alicorn princess who got corrupted and turned into Chrysalis. That is why Chrysalis doesn't have her origin story Only the origin of the changelings.
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That does make sense considering why she knows how to steal love from others
114 likesOmg ya
22 likesChrysalis Is A Full Changeling Tho- Just How The Hive Will Feed A Bee Special Honey To Make It A Queen Bee, It’s The Same With Changelings. Chrysalis May LOOK Like An Alicorn, But Keep In Mind That The Whole Hive Looks Like Ponies. She Doesn’t Really HAVE An Origin Story, The Hive Was Always Stealing Love Til They Were Reformed.
35 likesOMG WAIT ,WAIT ,WAIT WHAT IF THE REASON WHY CHRYSALIS WAS TARGETING CADENCE WAS BECAUSE SHE WAS TRYING TO PROTECT HER FROM LOVE OR WARNING HER FROM SOMETHING 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
31 likesAND BECAUSE THAT IS HER DAUGHTER SO MORE REASON OF PROTECTION SO MAYBE CADENCE MADE SHINING ARMOR FALL IN LOVE LIKE CHRYSALIS DID TO THE PRINCE THEREFORE TRYING TO TAKE SHINING ARMOR AWAY FROM HER SO THERE WOULD BE NO HEARTBREAKS TO CADENCE LIKE THEIR WAS TO CHRYSALIS OMG THIS IS ALL COMING TOGETHER PERFECTLY 😨😱
17 likesI read a headcanon on that. It was by a youtuber named Ink Rose and fit pretty well
14 likesMaybe
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5 likesWow that's a great reason it kinda makes sense aswell. Maybe she's also the Secret Mother of Cadence because Cadence also never talks bout her other family, actually to only princess who talks about there family is Twilight.
8 likesOmg
2 likesOr cinch's pony form, like this is how it started.
2 likesCinch was a nice pony, after they stopped doing their duties, all the ponies in equestria became desperate, and she started becaming angry towards the prince, the prince died from broken heart, as she gets depressed of what happened, 1 weeks later, she became mad about what happened, an unknown creature sends curse onto her. Turning her into chrysalis.
So here's how.
The princess - Cinch - Chrysalis
Also that explains why cinch is greenish.
Omg that makes so much sense
1 likeAnd her name "chryalis what if it used to be crystalis but she changed it
2 likes@Egr Mor 1: you don’t need to overreact and 2: no, chrysalis did that because of the love. If a diffrent or another princess had more love to share. (Or easier to target) then she would most likely go for them instead
1 likeChrysalis is my favorite character in MLP
1 like@Gojo Yowaimo no one cares
0 likes@shr00mie :D ok shut up and Don't be rude to me ok? 😡😠🤬
1 likeI agree
0 likes@Egr Mor queen crystalisis 😏
0 likesi would agree if the changelings didn’t stay changelings.. it’s a good theory but think about it. the changelings aren’t just corrupted ponies, they’re corrupted changelings. when they become good, their form changes but they stay the same ability wise. they’re a whole different species from ponies. I think queen chrysalis looks like a changeling alicorn because she’s just the queen of the hive. though i would like to know more backstory about the changelings and specifically queen chrysalis, like, why did she become queen?
3 likesIn this official short it shows that Discord created Chrysalis by fusing insect eggs for shit and giggles.
2 likeshttps://youtu.be/jb7joIm5UdU
His creation came bite him back in the ass in season 7 finale lol. When he had to go to their hive.
@Egr Mor how cuz she said she want to take over and trapped cadence endangered her family
0 likes@Thang Fah Savung no discord is just
0 likesin the part where changelings take over you see them combining changeling comunicators to talk like discord in the short
@Viola Moon because the only princess who canonically has parents is Twilight. Celestia has a Luna as her sister, however we don’t even know if those two have parents. Cadence? We know absolutely nothing about her family besides her daughter Flurry Heart with Shining Armor.
1 likemaybe
0 likesThis is a good theory and all, but in the book it's explained that Cadence saved her home village from a witch, and earned her horn before going to live with Celestia, leaving no time for that to happen
0 likesI am Flora Fille, the princess of Nature and all types of forms of Nature. I believe that Princess Cadence's origin was this:
0 likesONCE UPON A TIME, 1000 YEARS AGO, there was a Crystal Empire, a kingdom that was made of crystal and love was used as a shield to protect it from the cold winds of the frozen north. It was ruled by princess Carol and Prince Adam, the prince and princess of the Crystal Empire. As time went by, a new princess was born. A young Pegasus. They named her Cadence. After a few years, she grew into a filly and all went well in the kingdom. But, soon, King Sombra, an evil unicorn who lost his wings, came to invade the Crystal Empire. Princess Carol and Prince Adams were worried about Cadence.
''If our Empire falls, Cadence might be able to protect it when she's much older,'' said Princess Carol to Prince Adams.
''Yes, but how?'' asked the prince.
''I have been watching her for a while now and realized she has the power of love,'' said Princess Carol. ''She will without fail be able to.''
''Ok''. Prince Adams agreed.
Princess Carol used her magic to teleport Cadence to the Castle of the 2 sisters where the rulers of all equestria lived. Princess Celestia and Luna took care of her and raised her. One day, due to preventing two unicorns, pegasus and earth ponies from fighting using her love magic, Cadence turned into the princess we know today and got her cutie mark as well.
OMG ITS BEEN 3 YEARS SINCE I WATCHED THIS GUY AND HES STILL ON YOUTUBE
2 likesI feel like Cadance is the daughter of the two. That's why she's able to cast love magic.
0 likesThis is similar to other people's theories in the comments:
50 likesSo Cadance is the daughter of these two ponies, because of the potion she is very connected to love magic. Since the couple were so madly in love they forgot about their kingdom (which I think is the crystal empire) , sombra easily took it. Celestia and Luna defeated him but maybe could't save the couple, so thats why they took Cadance in. Somehow she turned into an alicorn. This is most likely really close to the actual backstory, cuz when the crystal empire came back celestia straight away gave it to cadance and shining armor to rule and plus her cutie mark is the crystal heart. Also cuz the fact that the crystal ponies said that cadance was the "crystal princess", they must have recognised her.
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Who told you this 💣💣💥🎉🎉
0 likesthat’s a perfect theory right here
0 likesi really like this theory
0 likesI have a theory so bear with me here:
0 likesCadence is in the alicorn princess from the story but instead her daughter, she was a product of artificial love and growing up she always thought that loves bells and love potions were hell ponies and creatures fell in love. I feel like she might’ve used a potion similar on someone that she had a puppy crush on when she was young.
Soon enough celestial was alerted about the lovestruck Alicorn princess and pulled the family a part In order to one, break the love potion and two, try and help cadence. After that I feel like Celestia would try and teach her about love and what it truly is compared to what her parents had. Idk if this would work or not, I’m open to opinions soooooo yeah there’s my theory
3:34-3:38 There were many times where Cadance's kingdom nearly fell. And everytime those times happen is because of King Sombra.
0 likesMaybey because she was too distracted by that "love potion" at the past, that's why her kingdom fell, like the story said but it might be because of King Sombra but it did not say in the story. Like Sawtooth said, maybey Celestia came and seperated Cadance apart from her "lover". Maybey she was too scared that will happen again so she took all her might and like what Shinning said "She hadn't slept, barely eats". This is in my opinion
You should do a theory on how Starlight got her cutie mark like how did she even get the cutie marrkkkkkk
3 likesWell if your theory is correct, then that means for the period of time when Cadence used the love spell, she was mentally and emotionally torturing others for her own benefit. If she was so traumatized by that experience, then it must mean that the spell causes some sort of physiological damage, as a victim of that trauma she'd know exactly how horrible it is. This is kiiiiinda something I feel like Celestia and Luna wouldn't exactly be happy about.... because she's sacrificing her subject's happiness for her own, the very subjects she's meant to lead and protect. If you think about it that way, then the theory sort of falls apart, but it's an interesting idea.
0 likesMaybe that princess was Cadence’s mom it doesn’t look exactly like her and her power was hereditary but maybe since her mother wasn’t around it adds a scar to her past.
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Could be but there's no proof to support that theory as I don't think there were alicorns before her birth other than Celestia and Luna which both are clearly not her mother.
22 likes@Quinn Russ jjh
2 likes@Quinn Russ there was actually an ancient race of alicorns and cadence’s mother could have been one of them
9 likes@Shadowbonboi or ancestor
1 likeahahhahahahaahahahahhahahahahahahahaahhahaahaahhahaahhahaah
0 likesUsually the problem between the stallion and the mare was a love they were already pair by true love but in the portion it was different big Mack and cheerliy didn't was love pair the spell that candence used is to connect the broken love not to make fake love
0 likesCan we talk about how Cadence is Celestias niece (I believe it was confirmed, been years since I heard that) and that Prince Blueblood is also her nephew. What other sibling does Celestia have for her to be an aunt 🧐 or these r probably random ponies she picked up
0 likesI was just rewatching the mlp series and I noticed that in season 2 episode 12, 'Family Appreciation Day' Miss Cheerilee's cutiemark keeps changing from her usual flowers to three umbrellas?! My Brain can't take it-
2 likesI doubt that she is the princess from the story simply from the fact that, when we see her when Twilight is a filly, we can see that she is much shorter than she is in the present day, heavily implying that she was still a child. She was likely too young to be the princess in the story, especially because the illustration shows a fully grown mare.
1 likeI hate how princess Luna and cadence are so underrated. They have an ,ummm... different past.
1127 likesEdit: I’m talking about the show. I want to know more about the two. I watched sawtooth’s vid. There are loved in the fandom for the same reason :)
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Omg ya, I never thought of that!!!
8 likesLuna isn't underrated, just Cadence
63 likesNo i feel like she is she doesn’t have many important parts rather then when ceslestia and her switched cutie marks, when the 3 princesses were singing to twighlight and a few times she was talking to her sister
24 likesI think Celestia is a little more popular than Luna, so Cadence is the definition of underrated
5 likes@Little Cookie trust me, most people like luna the best out of all of the princesses.
36 likes@Mushrooms I guess that's correct
4 likesCadance is so beautiful. She needs more attencion.
17 likesLune is not underrated
11 likesI think you should go back to Sawtooth’s older videos discussing which Princess the fandom likes the most. It has a pretty interesting, and funny result!
9 likesUm- have we been in the same fandom?? I’ve always seen Celestia as the underrated one-
10 likesLuna is the most overhyped pony, what are you even talking about...
10 likeseveryone's underrated
6 likesthe princesses are underrated in their own way
@Little Cookie yeah
1 likeNo No princess Suhana is good Princess Luna is good
1 likeTry comic
0 likesI have always seen Luna as number one
0 likesI actually quite like Cadence, her colors are pretty!
1 likeI have an idea for your next video: Cadence the bringer of destruction/fall of the crystal empire
0 likesHow old is cadence? Think about it, she has the crystal heart as her cutiemark yet the crystal empire was gone up until season 3, so she had to have been around before the crystal empire vanished. We also know that cadence was not banished along with the crystal ponies because she babysat twilight. She was an alicorn as far back as we can see and we know they age differently; so we she could be way older than we thought. Is it possible that cadence is a crystal pony & that when king Sombra turned bad Cadence is the one that asked the princesses to save the crystal empire? The other theory on the changelings cohabitating in the crystal empire also makes sense because when queen chrysalis was posing as cadence for the royal wedding Cadence seemed to be the one that already knew the most about them. (also Celestia, because she knew queen chrysalis' name before she had to be introduced.)
I would make a lot of sense if the princess of "love" earned her alicorn status (by creating a new type of magic "love is magic") in a society where love is an integral part of existing: the light and love charges the crystal heart, and the love that the changelings use. But wait! is it possible that the princess worthy deed that cadence did to become an alicorn was put the crystal heart system in place? Think about it. If the empire previously used a different system of keeping the winter at bay and it failed, then an extraordinary young unicorn who had just realized that love is a magic strong enough to keep the winter at bay. She carved a large crystal into the symbol of love and instructed the panicking ponies that this would work and to be strong for the ponies that they cared about. They could already see how the power their love fed the changelings. Cadence performs a love spell on the crystal heart turning it into a vessel for the strength of love that that the ponies had for each other and the cold wind of the north are blasted back. Cadence floats into the sky be magic not her own and vanished into another realm where she meets celestia for the first time. She gets her wings and reappears in front of the crystal ponies as an alicorn (and perhaps earning her cutiemark at the same time). The ponies celebrate and declare this young pony Cadence is worthy of becoming their leader someday. This puts king sombra's position at risk. But, he has bigger things to worry about: the crystal heart system seems to be working well but Sombra sees a problem. The changelings apatite for love is now a problem because the empire now runs off of love. If the changlings grow in numbers or if their apatite increases it will put the empire at risk. There is only one thing to do banish the changelings. (If my theory is correct: the mere presence of Cadence is the reason the crystal empire fell and why the changelings turned bad. Although chrysalis didn't seem to be hold any particular grudge against sombra when grogar brought them all together, maybe because cadence had a more direct hand in their banishment.)
After all this it would make sense why no one bothers to mention her past, she didn't even tell twilight. Why would she? Its even worse than (more embarrassing) than starlight's past. Think about it; her becoming an alicorn the symbol of leadership caused sombra's corruption (though it may not have changed the outcome for the changelings). This is an example of Starswirl's alicorn creation system causing negative results. If she had not become an alicorn she would simply have become something of a hero to the people as spike did & even more important not a threat to Sombra's position (especially if he wasn't an alicorn. This could've lead to him seeking different means to appear more powerful to the people to solidify his position, via the alicorn amulet that corrupts anyone who wears it.
y`know, when i saw the episode when Christalis impersonated Cadence i actually knew something wasnt right.. i was focused on her horn and how the colors werent the same.
0 likesWhat if her mother was the unicorn who took the love potion and before the love potion wore off on her, she had Cadance, resulting in her having magical abilities with love, and due to the powers initially coming from the potion, those powers were enough to result in her cutie mark as that’s what she was the best at, as well as that power being most significant to her ‘present’ and future, ultimately making it her destiny to be crowned as such, due to the power to make others get along was more than likely sought after, making her an obvious choice for a queen.
0 likesSorry for bothering any of you with this, but I really wanted to share my thoughts on this.
0 likesTrigger warning: rape, sexual abuse
In all honesty, I feel connected to cadence in this aspect if the theory is true. Especially if "love spells" are seen as a stand-in for sexual abuse. At least in this context. I recently realized that the guy I used to date over a year ago actually raped me and groomed me. I can relate to that feeling of helplessness, the urge to take back control and power. I want to see the guy suffer or at least punished for what he did, but I know the justice system will allow him to walk free without consequences. The feeling of wanting to become the consequence is overwhelming and it takes a lot to focus on getting your life together again instead of taking revenge. It's very difficult. And if this theory is confirmed, it would make cadence a figure to look up to even more. A ray of hope for others in similar situations. A sign that says "you can do this".
And just to be clear, I am not saying that revenge is bad. I believe that it can truly help to heal victims and survivors of horrible crimes. I am just saying that it's important to try focusing on getting your life back together first and then going pro revenge on them. Unless you have faith in the justice system, of course.
Sorry for rambling. TLDR: Cadence as viewed through this theory makes her very relatable and strangely comforting to me. And it inspires me to work hard on getting my shit together again.
This is something i’ve always just wanted to know but was never actually solved
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I have tons of questions in mlp but I am too lazy so I hope one day someone will make a video out of it -_-
22 likesSame. Another great mystery is how Bright Mac and Pear Blossom Died
12 likes@LightningStripe25 yeah....
5 likes@LightningStripe25 wait, THEY DIED?! I thought they only left and went to a different place ;-;
5 likes@Abby_liko well we’re not really sure that they died but it’s most likely because in the ep crusaders of the lost mark apple jack said to apple blossom “if mom and dad were here they would be proud of you” and they were crying. Plus that’s a thing people would say if there talking about if someone’s parents died.
6 likesPutting aside the question of whether books and tweets--vague as they are--which contradict this have canonical weight, this theory has the problem that Cadance has visibly aged since she was Twilight's babysitter. She appeared to be a teenager back then, and now she looks like an adult; it's hard to pin down a precise apparent age for her at either time due to the limited variation in pony models and our lack of an actual reference point in terms of a pony of known age, but it's plausible that she's aging at the same rate as an ordinary non-alicorn and clear that she's at least been aging at some non-negligible rate. That strongly implies that she's not at all ancient and thus can't have been involved in any old legends.
0 likesAnd then, of course, there's the question of what connection, if any, exists between Princess Cadance and Princess Amore, the Crystal Princess from before the Crystal Empire disappeared . . .
Maybe cadence was the daughter of the two, which would explain her cutie mark, learning what actual love is, stopping the curse her father put on
0 likesHer mom and saving her kingdom, maybe she used a fake cutie mark when she was young, because she didn't know why her cutie mark wasn't there because she thought she knew everything about love... which explains why she did that to the couple cause she was taught that was love...
The woman and men could possibly be cadences parents which makes sense of why she has that ability. It would probably match up with cadences child that was born an alicorn, maybe cadence was born an alicorn as well. When cadence was little she maybe probably found out what her mother was going through and got hurt by that. But that still doesn’t add up to their kingdom falling but cadence could have been born before that even happening.
1 likeFor me it makes sense for this and also yours but who knows maybe it’ll be a secret for a long time. We’ll see.
I hope you like my thought
Thanks for reading 😁
Hear me out, cadence is the child. The two were so affected by the potion that cadence got the potions magic. That might explain a few things
0 likesFan Theory Time. Candace and this stallion was so distracted with love that that's how King Sombra was able to take over The Crystal Empire! And when Celestia, and Luna defeated, and banished King Sombra without a kingdom and nowhere else to live that's when Celestia took Candace under her wing and to teach her how to use her love spells more carefully and for good! 💔
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who's candice ?
8 likes@r¡n no when changeling sawtooth said cadence as candice
7 likes@AshBlueFox16 or probably princess amore
3 likes@AshBlueFox16 no princess amore was much older then cadence the reason why i say it was amore she was the ruler of the princess empire and she was always alone at that time so it would make sense if it was princess amore
4 likes@Gold Pharaoh bitch cadence is amore good god do y'all even watch mlp
5 likesGood theoryw
0 likes@AshBlueFox16 i mean crystal princess **
2 likesSoo sweet
1 likeI am pretty sure princess amore used to take care of the crystal empire and could be the mom cadence.read fall of the crystall empire and evil is magic book 1
1 likeIf it was Cadence the stallion would have a horn like Shining Armor, but he doesn’t.
1 likeDx_s c'ccfc ❤️
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0 likesThe crystal empire fell loonnnng before cadences time. We know because Of the way alicorns grow and how long the crystal empire has been missing Dont forget that that scene from the show depicted cadence as a teenager. She wasn’t even a full grown pony and she was an alicorn. That’s why I don’t agree with most of these theories.
4 likesAnd if it had happened after that twilight would have known of the crystal empire’s existence.
2 likes@Sweet_Demonic_ Dreams ходовая/>;
0 likesThere is also a book called cadance and the spring heart garden which can be used as a reference as to know about her past
1 likeSo true 👍
2 likes,
0 likesGaymer.
0 likes@r¡n a kid cartoon did you even watch it?! (no offence)
0 likesI have an idea.
0 likesCadence's mom and dad could be the ponies in the story. They had a baby,which is Cadence,and when their kingdom fell,Celestia heard about the news,and went to the kingdom and found Cadence,and took her in. Maybe Cadence has her love magic,because of the potion,leaving an affect on her. But that's just what I think.
What if her spell works by solving the differences between those who are arguing and it doesn't actually have anything to do with that type of attraction or love at all?
0 likesIt would still work the same way on everyone but not everyone would react the same way. Two arguing ponies who aren't in a relationship would stop fighting but they wouldn't fall in love with each other. Their differences would just be settled.
She's the princess of love but that's not just one form of love.
Hey, sawtooth I was wandering if you would make a changeling tearpage?? The changelings would love it!
0 likesI think hers is less making two ponys love each other who dont but more reminding them that they do love each other
0 likesFunny enough when Cadence was introduced, I was expecting a darker turn in the episode; I thought Cadence was going to be a changeling the whole time and that would be it
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lol-
3 likesНесмотря на теории, Каденс остаётся моей любимой принцессой:)
0 likesHere is another idea! It was her parents. Her mother was with the love poison which is what caused the Crystal empire to fall to Sombra. Then the two had a baby which was rescued by Celestia and given her wings since Celestia knew her parents were gone and the kingdom would one day return. Because the mother was under the influence of the love potion when Candence was conceived…. That’s why she has that magic.
0 likesI think the Alicorn from the book could be her mother since the picture of her looks older
1 likemaybe you could do a vid about lightning dust I found out she looks like one of the equal ponies in equal village go and research it
4 likesit's a stretch, definitely, but i adore this theory!!! it's now canon to me
1 likeI don't think so. I think it was her destiny to spread love as she is the "crystal princess". Her magic is linked to love just like her kingdom. I think it was to show that her destiny is linked to the Crystal Kingdom. It was a foreshadow that she is ment to spread love to keep a kingdom intact.
0 likesCadance is the princess of the Crystal Empire and hearts and hooves as a holiday was around way before cadance was around.
0 likesDon't forget that princess amore was around and cadace has similar magic, love magic spefically to that of princess amore ( amore being french for love)
Also the two fighting were confirmed to be a married couple of the verge of a divorce before cadance helped them.
Which princess amore was confirmed and cadnace is said to be a descendant of princess amore ( who not only was the orginal ruler of the Empire but who also created the Crystal heart)
If could be that princess amore in her youth may have been affected by the love potion/poison. But that is directly debunked if you look at the comics since princess amore never forsaked her duties .
It could be that beucase the term princess is automatically seen as being an alicorn , that the artist who made the book didnt know that a regular unicorn could a princess and so drew them as an alicorn.
I kinda like the idea that those are her parents because that would make her more or less born of that magic. Heck, even if they’re her grandparents or great grandparents, so long as she’s a direct descendent of the Hearts and Hooves ponies, she’d still only exist because of the love poison.
0 likesThe part of me whose like “nooo this is too dark” on the other hand wants to headcanon that Cadence’s magic can’t mind control anyone and only brings to the surface love that’s already there. Not that there’s a contradiction in the two...
I absolutely love Cadence, she has so much heart and personality, I wish they gave her more lore qmp
24 likesThere's actually a book called Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell that tells us the story of Princess Cadence's past. So the Hearts and Hooves day story couldn't be about Cadence. Also it explains that she didn't just come out of nowhere, but it doesn't explain how she became an alicorn.
0 likesthe one thing you missed the princess pony looked a lot like cadence the hair was exactly the same and the male prince looked almost identical to twilights brother who is cadences husband so I think that the story was written far in the future where cadence and her husband are dead and someone’s magic brought it in to the past witch i’m assuming is flurry heart I mean who else would need cadence to come back she’s the princess of love I can’t really think of a disaster they would need her for but back to the book being sent to the past thing so the reason they needed her is because of equestria needing her and her husband withought them there wouldn’t be “Love”
0 likesI mean, I feel like she was the orphaned child of the Crystal Empire after something bad happened with the kingdom, and that she was then raised privately by some survivors before becoming an alicorn. And that then she met Celestia in Celestia’s realm and was taken back to be raised as her niece. I don’t remember where I got this theory but it makes much more sense than trying to connect two vastly different ideas. If anything, I would think Cadence’s mom had been the princess afflicted. (This is all just speculation though).
0 likesI think the couple was Cadence’s parents. The prince made the potion for her mother and the two of them got married and eventually had a child. But it didn’t take long for them to become so overrun with love, that they neglected their duties to the Crystal Empire and Sombra once again too control. Her parents were killed in the process, and Celestia took her in and then covered the Crystal empire with snow. She raised the young girl as her niece and eventually turned her into an alicorn
0 likesCadence definitely had to have been around for a while, because in season 4, after he was released Tirek knew about Cadence (but not twilight) so she must have been around when he was imprisoned.
24 likesCadence looks younger as Twilight’s sitter than in the picture
1 likeI usually assumed the prince and princess were either cadence ‘s parents grandparents or relatives in other way 💖
0 likes7th element faith(green). Spike who has a chair at the table in Twilight s Castle. Stygan may have been the 7th but ended up having his faith broken and possibly stunted the trees growth seeking the elements. Celestia may have thought twilight her faithful student was the secret 7th who could awaken the sleeping elements. the 7th fuels the others while twilight s units them. Ps love the sombra alicorn amulet video
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there is no 7th element.
0 likesI agree with you that’s the last year came to her rescue but maybe it wasn’t cadence that was under the spell maybe it was her mother and Celestia couldn’t separate her mother and father so instead of trying to save her mother she decided to let the kingdom fall and then cadence was old enough to rule the kingdom let her rule
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What if the downfall of the princess’ kingdom was related to king sombra taking over the crystal empire? Like if you think about it, we don’t have much backstory on the original ruler before him, and the crystal ponies call cadence the “crystal princess” when it seems they don’t know much about her…but what if she or an ancestor was the original ruler?
0 likesI think those two in the book are Cadence’s parents and she enherited some of the love magic somehow
0 likesI think, that the princess with the love potion was princess Amore. Amore means love, so she had something to with it... And Hope in the Crystal siege said, that cadance is very simular to her. Maybe they are connected...
0 likesAs per usual, love the vids...but I have always wondered how her mane is 3 different colors and her wings two...and the explanation behind it, I mean does it only happen to alicorn royals, b/c Celestia's hair is sometimes depicted as light pink in her youth and now it's multi-colored
0 likeswelp are pony's familiar with the use of hair dye or is it magic, welp with a video please with cheese
i personaly think that the love spell ponies might've been her parents, and the potion affected the princess magic so it transported to her child as Cadance's magic source
0 likesCadence might have been born a alicorn if one of her parents was a Pegasus and the other parent is a unicorn.
1 likeI love this theory, I litreally got chills
0 likesIf this is true, and taking into account that her age is unknown as well as tirek knew her, cadance could be the lost crystal princess, making it her empire that fell due to sombra's rule when she failed to protect it. This tie in neatly with your theory.
0 likesMaybe Cadence is actually the two ponies' child? Being born out of a love poison might have given her the same powers as it?
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I agree this is my theory
5 likesWOAH GOOD IDEA
1 likeI think the cadance was the pony but when sombra came to the crystal empire cadance's mom defeated and went to gave her child a better future and she walked so hard that she dropped her at the earth pony village and then prisimia wanted love like queen chrysalis and she gave her a love spell without magic and then she had gone to the place where pnies become alicorns and celestia adopted as her royal niece and then she git her cutie mark as the crystal heart and she noticed that she ll rule one day and today she is the princess of the crystal empire
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0 likesi noticed that Cadence was the only princess whose wings are purple at the tips (or have some color at the tips) and it makes me wonder if SHE was born an alicorn and that is the reason Flurry Heart was born with wings. maybe Cadence being a descendant of the prince & princess from the love day tale caused her to be born an alicorn thus she already knew what it was like to love but not in the way her cutie mark spoke and so she was born into alicornhood, like Flurry Heart being born already knowing how to love “ lightly “ like the crystal ponies do.
0 likesi soooo wish they didnt end the season so fast and cleared up certain things or at least had a discussion about all our unanswered questions. a lot of their episodes were rushed and made no sense at times and they never bothered to write in any answers for it. just left it a big mystery and ended the show. unlessssss, thats a plan for the new generation 🤡 actually doubt that lol
I think cadence was that princess on the potion and the kingdom that fell was the cristal empire, cuz cadence was so hipnotized by the potion that King sombra came and took over the empire, and only 1000 years later she started to rule the cristal empire again...
1 likeI think chrysalis is the the victim of the love potion but the Prince mixed it the wrong way or added something else like a part of a changeling. it could also be both to explain why chrysalis feeds of love and is a alicorn so she fed of the love of her kingdom
0 likesThe stallion and mare in the book aren't related to Cadence. In fact, the mare having wings was an error, because later on in the episode, we see the same pair of ponies in the book but the mare only has a horn.
0 likesThis is so interesting I love this channel it’s so cool!
0 likesMaybe cadence had a bad child hood and then when she finally got her cutey mark, she was finally able to get everyone together again and find love or find out what love was.
0 likesYou make good points but if she really is the alicorn princess from hearts and hooves day then how did she break free from the love spell if shining armour didn’t exist back then but also when we take a look back to when she and twilight first met, she didn’t have a horn, we see that later on so what if that isn’t her but Luna and Celestia's secret sibling or she could be an alicorn from before Celestia and luna existed or it could be an alicorn related to twilight🤔 I mean there are so many possibilities of who is mystery alicorn really is, and where they came from and another thing who is the prince in the story and how did he meet this mysterious alicorn we know nothing about🤔
1 likeWhen we first met princess cadence she was never explained or expanded on of her backstory and her life I wish they made a princess cadence episode where we get to see her origin like how what she is and how she became to be and when she first met twilight sparkle
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Same but all we have from her past is when she would baby sit Twilight when Twi was young
1 likeThere’s a song
0 likes@KAN in Christ the song about Cadence on how she became a alicorn? I highly doubt it’s canon. No one knows how she became a alicorn
0 likesOkay so what if the hearts and hooves day prince and princess were cadence's parents, which would mean (1) the parents' kingdom fell, sending cadence away, (2) she could have inherited the ability somehow, and (3) since she's supposedly from another land, she could have been Born an alicorn- the other princesses wouldn't've known and it would explain why Cadence was the only one not really shocked or concerned when Flurry was born an alicorn. Her secret :o
0 likesI think you're right. If the princess in the book is Cadence, she would have got distracted from her duty to protect the Crystal Empire, so King Sombra got the chance to take over it. As you said if Princess Celestia and Luna went to her rescue, I think that means by banishing Sombra to the frozen north just like Princess Celestia told Twilight about the Crystal Empire but "not before he was able to put a curse upon the empire that made it vanish into thin air", sound familiar as Celestia gave Twilight's test at season 3, episode 1? But I think there also might be the possibilty that the alicorn princess was Cadence's mom. Because Celestia is more than a thousand years old, but Cadence is more shorter than her, so it might be Cadence's mom. What do you think???
0 likesWhen you look at the hair of the princess from the book, its the same as when cadance had her hair tied up
0 likesI’ve been doing some research about who her parents were but I couldn’t find anything but, I heard that she was born a Pegasus in the zebra empire and and she was raised by Earth ponies, but when she turned into a alicorn, princess Celestia took her and that’s where she was crowned a princess
0 likesThe most confusing thing of all of this is why Celestia refers to Cadance as her "adopted niece", not "adopted daughter". Does it have anything to do with a lost sibling of Celestia and Luna? Maybe that Cosmos character that was rejected from the 2017 movie was planned earlier on, and for some reason they never actually got to bringing him in.
0 likesI have a theory. It couldn't be cadence bc she was super young when that happened. If you meant "She was sent to babysit other foals families" she was a teen. Alot of teens don't date. At that age. Also sure they didn't specify the time, so Twilight was probably (idk) Teh first foal she babysat.
0 likesIn that scene, I think it’s reasonable to assume she didn’t put any thought into the spell she cast, and did it to stop the arguing whilst baby twilight was present, it’s not to say that’s the only way she is the princess of love. She was just doing a quick job as a babysitter
0 likesI was completely against this theory at first but now I actually think it might be true
0 likes“Candace’s age is unknown” Well in that flashback she was around the same size as Twilight when the series first started and Twilight was still a filly soooo she’s probably 15-20 years older then Twilight
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keep in mind cadance has been an alicorn and they age differently.
116 likes@Sawtooth Waves could you please do princess celestia and princess luna past? We know little to nothing about their past the show never even did a in depth story of their background.
22 likes@Reagan Thai (Btw I just mixed sawtooths theory and conspirapon3s theory.)My theory is that After Celestia and Luna realized they could raise the moon and sun,they absorbed the magic of all 3 tribes and became alicorns.Then Sombra got jealous of Celestia and Luna's power.Then chrysalis asks Celestia And Luna for help.Sombra then figures out how to take the magic from all 3 tribes and gets wings.After that luna and celestia fights sombra.Thats when starswirl comes in .He put all sombras Alicorn magic in The Alicorn Amulet. Then Sombra is banished,Chrysalis is angry and takes revenge. : )
3 likesAlso I think Cadence is a pegicorn based on what cadences wings looked like in the passed
2 likesand because of the book
But we can keep a track basin' on Twilight's growth
1 like@Bad content :) A pegicorn is a Pegasus that became an alicorn.
4 likes@Bad content :) Cadences wings did change.in the passed she had Pegasus wings.In the future she has alicorn wings.Chrysalis is also a pegicorn.
4 likes@Optimus prime polska really when?
1 like@Optimus prime polska send me the link
0 likes@Optimus prime polska no hate but you spelt some words wrong
1 likeI always wonder what is a year in equestria i am sure its not the same as here on earth and when Luna and Celestia run the cycle it gets more confused
0 likesCan alicorns age?
Isnt it just time is slower and ponies can be 1000y old
All i know a month is 30 moons but how long is a day i need to know
@Rainbow Cookie A month is not 30 moons, a moon is a month or a week I don’t know which one
1 like@Sawtooth Waves yeah but allsou its like 1000 years since heart warming to modern days and that too much time to she no change at all (definetly in way how she changet betwen Twitlite fili and 2 Seazon) out of that where will be that kingdom?
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@Sawtooth Waves your right they do age differently and Cadence was a alicorn even back when she baby sat Twilight. But Twilight was still a filly and Cadence didn’t look too much older in those flashbacks from ‘a canterlot wedding’ Cadence definitely was older but she only looked like she was around inner early teenage years
0 likes@Reagan Thai that would be amazing! We legit know nothing from the sisters past but in my opinion there isn’t any evidence to suggest anything. Sawtooth has already had a theory that the sisters were just unicorns when the tribes we divided and that Starwirl noticed that they had amazing powers, made then alicorns and that’s pretty much all we know
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves can you do a theory how could the mane 7 return in G5 like time travel or something else ?
1 like@Sawtooth Waves Technically not confirmed tho
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0 likesIs that pony in the story
I think the kingdom she ruled before WAS the crystal empire and once princess celestia helped her and took over. in the crystal empire episode when cadance came with the crystal heart a stallion yelled "here comes the crystal princess"
1 likeHis theory makes sooo.. much sence
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Omg yeah
0 likesFor the ponies arguing in twilight's flashback, do we know for sure they were in a relationship. They could have just been friends, or even worse, siblings.
0 likesI am new to ur channel but I luv ur content and ur editing skills.
0 likesKeep it up, ill be here daily, and sometimes ill give u my take on a specific MLP theory.
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We're just going to ignore the fact that cadence and shining armor probably broke their backs because of their live spell thing that stopped chrysalis
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LMAO💀
1 likeI'm not sure if comics are considered official. But there are comics with Cadence's backstory! It goes into how cadence and shining armor fell in love. There's a rich snooty guy that likes her, she doesn't like him. They're all at some sort of dance, and shining armor and cadence kiss towards the end, with a heart forming above their horns! Just thought I'd bring that up.
1 likeIf you actually think about it more the crystal empire fell into sambras control. So if it was cadence in the story then that would have been the emire to fall due to lack of work. Would also explain why their is a crystal heart on cutie mark since it was her empire in the first place
0 likes“All but ignored” means they did everything but ignore something. The saying is “straight-up ignored”.
1 likeThis is like super late 😅 but I was rewatching this video while watching the Canterlot wedding where we meet Queen Crysallis. What if the princess in the hearts and hooves story isn’t related to Cadence at all? What if it’s Crysallis? And the way she is now is the aftermath of the love potion? Idk 🤷♀️ just a thought, probably doesn’t add up though.
0 likesI think cadence is the daughter of the the two ponies that fell in love a long time ago and then got her powers from the potion but she didn't know what the spell would do if she used it thats why she used it and celestia found her as a baby so she gave her to a family that wanted to have a kid because she is to young to be in love with the prince
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:o thats a god possibikty! It would also make the "a long time ago" make a little more sense
7 likesIf Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)
3 likes@Miniş Dünyası but the prince doesn't have a horn in the book if he did he would not need a potion to make the alicorn princess fall in love with him.
3 likes@Miniş Dünyası i don't think cadence is born an alicorn because celestia and luna said that flurry heart was the first natural born alicorn
2 likes@idk The prince does have bangs he could be hiding his horn under his bangs. But he might have used a potion because the potion is stronger
2 likes@Miniş Dünyası true
0 likesYes I think she is the daughter too
2 likesWhat if those ponies were her parents or grand parents. When Sombra took over the crystal kingdom, it sounded like he did it very easily, maybe Cadence was always destined to be the ruler of the crystal kingdom
0 likesI think cadence is the heart queen because, each pony has thier own element and I think cadance is the smallest between Celestia,Luna and Cadance
0 likesI do remember seing somewhere, that cadence use to be a pegasus, that earned her horn though something, thus becoming an alacorn princess
0 likes, kinda like how twilight earned her wings, but the opposite.
I’m thinking cadence is their daughter. Maybe the love potion was so strong it’s powers went to their daughter. And she had to see her mom and dad be in “love” but she knew some how they were actually in love. Or when the potion power was given to cadence her parents love spell broke and she saw what really happened
0 likesOmg I’ve been waiting for cadence’s backstory theory for a while!
33 likesOr another theory, she's their daughter and she got her powers due to the potion's influence, then as a child she saw that the spell was broken and that her parents don't actually live each other so she was using her magic to make people, especially the ones she saw had "problems" fall in love because she assumed they would be happy then. Only later Celestia told her about the side effects of the potion and how their kingdom fell and taught Cadence about true love.
0 likesCadance can't be the Princess from the Book.
0 likesIn a Flashback in "A Canterlot Wedding Part 1", where Cadance was a Foalsitter, she was small an Twilight was a Foal smaller then the CMC (around 15 years before the Show), so Cadance is just a few Years older as Twilight (maybe she is 23-25 in the show, Twilight around 19).
Faust has say, she just planed to have Celestia and Luna as only Alicorns in the Show and Cadance was not planed as Alicorn.
Theres no Past of her, because Cadance is just an Side Character and the Creators of the Figure never have develop a BG for her (most of the Char was made after Faust has leave the Team).
I like your Videos, but maybe you should look more on Facts, instead of Speculations and the Facts say, theres not a detailed BG for every Char in the Show.
The Creators of the Show have left many Things unexplained, without an Answer.
So all is possible, until Hasbro decide to publish an official Book with complete Bios to all Figures.
I think maybe Cadence wasn't the unicorn princess, but the child of the two who were under the spell of the lovepotion, and that it's power passed on to her.
0 likesI thought they were her parents or grandparents because that would explain why she is a alicorn and why her daughter was born one, because she could have been born one, and it could be genetics that her daughter was also born one.
0 likesAlso the holiday seems pretty old and cadence doesn't seem that old she was only a young pony when she babysat Twilight.
Sawtooth Waves: *uploads
337 likesEveryone: Well, well, well, time to find out!
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2 likes@Amanda lol
2 likesYou are correct
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0 likesi think you are right. cadance was a princess of a different empire but saved and rehabilitated by celestia. now princess cadance can now be able to lead another empire.
0 likesLuna is also pretty interesting in her past
0 likesBut how did she even become an allicorn? Cuss when flurry heart was born Celestia and Luna said it was the first born allicorn they have ever seen. So how did cadence earn her wings or horn??
1 likeMaybe Cadence was the hearts and hooves day alicorn's daughter, her magic was changed by the love potion that her parents were affected by?
0 likesWoooo! Was hoping you'd finally do this one! Btw, what do you think of the new G5 looks?
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love them sooooo muchhh
4 likesDid anyone else notice the one random poney in the crystal empire say “the crystal princess.” Also cadence’s cuitie mark looks looks like the crystal heart.
0 likesI think that the old crystal empire princess was the one who had been in love and didn’t put her kingdom in order, that’s how sombra took over then led the two sisters turned him to shadow. Then cadence was her daughter(MABYE) and that’s how she managed to get that spell because the first crystal empire princess might’ve given birth to her while she was under the spell? That’s what I suppose
0 likesI was thinking that cadence could’ve been the child of the two ponies and the potion could’ve affected her at birth giving her the magic of love or something like that
1 likeHonestly it makes sense HER kingdom fell and she rules the crystal empire. then the evil king came and all.. i also think the changeling queen is someone that was jealous of cadence. or the changeling queen is the victim of the love potion and when celestia took them apart she grew angry and started to feed of love.. Also if you did'int see when big mac & Cheer-lie had the potion there eyes turned pink for 1 second same thing when cadence hugged prince charming and the flew then there eyes turned pink for a second oddly similar.. I don't know but the thing i'm sticking on to is that cadence was born an alicorn but her parents never told her then the prince gave the potion to cadence and spread love until she found a spell and the first people to use the magic went psycho and celestia had to separate them in the jails below that the changeling queen said everyone forgot about but on day the girl escaped and found out the prince was dead so she wanted to get revenge and turned into the changeling queen and fed of of love.
1 likeThis makes me look at cadence in a whole new EVERYTHING
18 likesTheory time... Cadence looks really young to be that princess because it was from so long ago unless... She's using a spell too make herself look younger so no one knows unless Celestia and Luna know...
0 likesI think cadence is the great granddaughter of the Alison it was used on because she looks teenage when babysitting compared to today
1 likeDoes anyone know the background music at 4:18? It's beautiful
0 likesYour theory is cool, but Cadence was born a pegasus turn alicorn compared to Twilight being a born unicorn. If anything, whenever drama happened that made Cadence the adopted niece to Celestia and Luna, that event would've gifted her alicorn status so people would know she is genuine royalty now.
0 likesI always thought that Cadence was related to the ponies in the spell. Them being ancestors of her
0 likesPerdón por el español en este canal. Pero según el libro canon de Twilight y el corazón de cristal se dice que Candace era una pequeña pegaso huérfana, fue adoptada por unos campesinos, se dice que consiguió su cuerno porque reformó a una bruja malvada, Celestia apareció y le dió un cuerno, es en ese momento donde Celestia la adoptó como su sobrina
0 likesPD : De sus padres no se dice nada en el libro, pero bueno, por algo existen las teorías.
Look at Cadences's hindlegs in the flash backs. They are shorter, I think she'll a teenager in that flashback. It only takes half a lifetime for an albacore to become fully grown, she must be younger than that.
0 likesI think that the theory between Cadance being the lost alicorn princess could be true, well, since, Celestia is Cadance’s adoptive aunt.
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83 likesThe two ponies were Cadance´s parents, and the "fallen" kingdom was the Crystal Empire. Cadance was probably the result of the love potion, and thats why she has similiar powers. "the kingdom falling" was possibly Sombra taking over, because the princess was too "busy" to do her royal duties. Its only my theory tho.
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Cant be cus the birth from an alicorn was never a thing until Flurry Heart came along- So Cadence was not the daughter of the Alicorn in the book, pretty sure its Cadence herself-
2 likes@Tangle Hamain Hm..maybe she wasn´t born an alicorn? I have heard some things about her being a pegasus before.
3 likes@Daniela Bohunická Maybe she was born pegasus but had love power in her, we know every tipe of pony (earth ponies, pegasus and unicorns) have magic, maybe with that magic in herself she solved some problem as kid and then become alicorn, so she can use love magic like unicorn. For example, mane six have friendship magic in themselves, but they can use it just together, usually through Twilight.
4 likes@Daniela Bohunická Yeah, Cadence WAS a pegasus but the an alicorn giving birth was never a thing until Cadence birthed Flurry, thats what I meant- (at least I think so-)
3 likes@Tangle Hamain I dont think that was ever mentioned in the show, all that was said was that a pony was never born an alicorn straight away, (before flurry of course)
0 likes(Btw I just mixed sawtooths theory and conspirapon3s theory.)My theory is that After Celestia and Luna realized they could raise the moon and sun,they absorbed the magic of all 3 tribes and became alicorns.Then Sombra got jealous of Celestia and Luna's power.Then chrysalis asks Celestia And Luna for help.Sombra then figures out how to take the magic from all 3 tribes and gets wings.After that luna and celestia fights sombra.Thats when starswirl comes in .He put all sombras Alicorn magic in The Alicorn Amulet. Then Sombra is banished,Chrysalis is angry and takes revenge. : )
0 likesI also think cadence is a pegicorn and dont think sombra took over the crystal empire and was the rightful ruler of the empire.
1 like@Daniela Bohunická Hmmmmm, I mean maybe then.. I just dont think its Cadence but again my opinion can be wrong
0 likesw@Tophs Right Foot Why would Chrysalis be on the good side? O.o
0 likes@Tangle Hamain Cause this is what Chrysalis used to be
0 likes@Tangle Hamain She was born as a pegasus
1 like@Hepoxni Yes I know
0 likes@Tophs Right Foot Which episode do you see this??
0 likes@Tangle Hamain I didnt see that in any episode i mixed theory's.And Chrysalis and Nightmare moon are the only villians not introduced by celestia probably cause they include bad memorys
0 likes@Tophs Right Foot I see..
0 likes@Tangle Hamain Yeh
0 likesThis is how I think it would have gone, I stated my reasons in a previous comment which I accidently deleted. But I'll throw in the important stuff here. I think that Cadence was the daughter of the alicorn in the Hearts and Hooves day story (I think Isolde suits her)
1 likeReason 1. Age. Although like you said the story was vague with the timeline. I'd have to guess that the story but be at least 500 to 1000 years old and although we don't know his age- wait (frantic google searching) As far as I know we don't know his age but I doubt that he is centuries old. Though even if Cadance was Isolde's daughter she would still be 100s of years old but maybe alicorns age slower..? I guess but it's still not solid ground to stand on that would suggest either theories but I still wanted to bring it up.
Reason 2. Storytime. If Cadance was Isolde why and how would she have the same love magic as the prince? Sure you could ague that she learned it or was always fascinated by that branch of magic but I think that's too simple and vague. Soiler. Voldemort from Harry Potter was born out of a love potion a one sided love without 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 love so he was born incapable of loving and turned out to be a heartless killer because of it. Spoiler. Rapunzel from Disney was born after her mother ate a magic flower which gave her magic powers. I think you see where I'm going with this. After Isolde drank the love potion and fell into a false love or as J.K. says, an obsession, she had Cadence who wasn't able to love anyone or if you want to make it more tragic can only love her parents who are to busy being obsessed with each other to care for her. But she can controll other people's love which she does irresponsibly when she's young to try and have some control in her life.
Reason 3. I don't have a reason 3 that I can remember. It's late my brain hurts I've been here for hours send help.
This took me almost three hours to think of and type out then half of it got deleted so I hope you enjoy.
Isolde was the most beautiful pony in all of Equestria and many a stallion wanted her hoof in marriage. She was a princess and alicorn. She turned them all down. She swore not to fall in love as her mother, Etain, had fallen in an out of love with many different suiters going through much heartbreak. Isolde promised herself that no stallion would ever get the better of her. One day Etain and Isolde went out to the kingdom of Cozbi to secure diplomatic relations. Normally Etain went by herself but aparrently there was a prince Isolde's age and them going could benefit both kingdoms. Isolde agreed- reluctantly as she knew arguing with her mother wouldn't end well. When they arrived they were led into a fancy hall with dim lighting and a single candle lit table with two chairs sat in the centre. 'I don't know what I was expecting' Isolde thought as Etain left. The prince sat at the first of the chairs and smiled at her. It wasn't a creepy smile, Isolde found it charming. She smiled back and started to pull the chair out but the prince got there first. 'Thank you' she said. 'What's your name?' 'Amir.' They chatted, ate, danced and laughed for hours and when Amir said that that night had been a blast and he really enjoyed Isolde's company and if she would be his. When Isolde rejected him saying that she only saw him as a friend. He sighed and said 'I understand but would you atleast have a drink with me? To a good friendship!' He took out a bottle intricately decorated with swirls and hearts and lines that looked like words but must've been in another language as Isolde couldn't read them. He poured them a goblet each and before they drank Isolde repeated 'To a good friendship.' Some time past. Isolde didn't know how much time but she did know that it was time spent with Amir and that's all she needed to know. Before long they got married and had a daughter called Cadence. Cadence was special, she was born without love and therefor she couldn't love. The weird thing about her though is that she could still manipulate the love of others. Though try as she might she could not make her parents love her as she wanted and deserved and the sad thing was they were the only ponies that she seemed to love. Isolde didn't spend much time with Cadence nor pay her much attention. As far as she was concerned the only thing that mattered was Amir and how lucky she was that they met. Soon Celestia heard rumors of a kingdom that falling into ruin as result of neglect from it's rulers. But when she arrived she realised that it was much more serious than negligence. She came into the throne room to see a 7 year-old Cadence trying to catch the attention of her parents as they stared into eachothers eyes, not knowing nor caring that their kingdom was falling into ruin and chaos by their hooves. Celestia recognised the dark magic immediately and tried to pull them apart and save them from the spell but they had been under the curse of forced love for to long and it had become unbreakable. With a heavy heart Celestia turned her back on the false couple and took little Cadence under her wing and back to Canterlot where with many trials and tribulations she managed to cure Cadance from her curse too.
As for the townsponies of Cozbi, Celestia sent them to the up and coming town of Mainhattan.
I also think it would be cool for Flurry Heart to go back to see her grandparents and break the curse. I can imagine Cadence forbidding her from going but that not stopping anyway and then after they have a mother-daughter moment that super sweet and nice and stuff.
This is my theory :) It's a little longer sorry.
CADENCE IS A PEGICORN
2 likes@Tangle Hamain "The birth of an alicorn is something EQUESTRIA has never seen before." - Celestia
0 likesIt still could be a possibility though 🤔
@Quinn Russ Ummm idk about that I mean, shes (was) the frickin ruler of Equestria. If there was a ony that was born an Alicorn before, she wouldve known about it-
0 likes@Tangle HamainWell, she didn't say, so we don't know. Probably Sawtooth would have
0 likes@Quinn Russ She said though.. even you said what she said..
0 likesok so i worked on this theory, I think its their daughter. they were under the love spell, they had a daughter, love spell powers given to daughter, love spell broke, cadence left alone in the forest, kingdom fell apart, (pretty sure her mother was the ruler of crystal empire) and raised by two pegasi, has the same powers blah blah and here's what she is now
1 likeI have a theory on the Magic of Friendship: What if we don't have all the elements, there might be more to what we now, and I just looked a Twilight's cutiemark, like the big pink star has sig points, just like has it started with six elements. But there's still five other stars on her cutiemark, what if those are the five missing elements. Like Sunset Shimer and Starlight Glimer. Let me explain. When we meet Sunset Shimer, and she bullied Twilight for the two days she was there in the first movie. But at the end, Twilight still forgave Sunset and became her friend, so I think Sunset is the element of forgiveness. And Starlight Glimer, in the episode we meet her in she was jealous, and wanted control of the town, and took all the ponys cutiemarks but didn't take her's. She kept hers and controlled the town. But Twilight also became her friend, and I think the Starlight is the element of jealousy, because friend can still be jealous of others but move past it.
0 likesI don't think that the princess form that tale of a potion was cadence as it is depicted to be an older alicorn while during a flashback to when she was Twilight's foal sitter we see that cadence is still pretty young but I think it's possible that she is the daughter wich may explain how she can do the magic spell similar to the potion
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0 likesI always wondered where those stories that appeared in the books, throughout the series, were based. Cause something like this happens with the G5 that it is likely that the G4 has only been a story.
10 likesI think it was her parents but the potion didnt just affect her mom but also her because she could have gained the love potions effects to use the powers of it as her own and she probley didnt know about it until later or never found out who her parents are because of the potion and celestia took her in
0 likesWhen Flory Heart was born princes Celestia said there are no ponies she had seen born directly as an alacorn it requires a spell to do so
0 likesOk so if we think about this the princesses don’t just learn this Magic, it’s special that’s what makes them magical it’s that no one else can do what they can do. So are we thinking that after the potion wore off that it effected her in a different way giving her these powers and that’s how she got her cutie mark, so that is how she knew she was supposed to use love in a good way, but sometimes when she was younger like we she was babysitting twilight that she got flashbacks and she didn’t want to see people foghting and instead being in love , or maybe deep down the potion still sometimes effects her. Ok I’m done, I hope you read this
0 likesWell, we do know a lot about Cadance's past, making thus theory/hypothesis out of hand.
0 likesSo Cadence had her Cutie Mark at the time she was shown as Twilight's foalsitter. Wild theory here, but I'm going to add on to your theory Sawtooth: What if Cadence was the Alicorn in the book and the Prince was none other than Sombra, and the kingdom that fell into ruin because of the spell was the Crystal Empire. AND that Sombra's rage and grief at the actions of Celestia, like you suggested Sawtooth, are the reason he turned to darkness, and thus is the reason the Crystal Empire disappeared in the first place.
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hold up-
7 likesWAIT UR ONTO SOMETHING- I love ur theory
8 likesThe prince was an earth pony
7 likesWait what
2 likesBut that would make the fall of the empire recent enough for people to know about it and it’s existence before it was wiped from the history books. Twilight had never once heard of it. Ever. If cadence had been the one running the empire, she probably would’ve been an older pony by the time she started taking care of twilight… would she have even taken care of twilight in the first place if she was that old?
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1 likeOk so i finally figured it out so cadence and the prince fell in love. The prince was the ruler of the crystal empire. This is how king sombra took over the crystal empire. Celestia and luna released the prince and cadence from the love spell and defeated sombra.
1 likeLet me know what u think
That explains how sombra was able to take over the crystal empire fell so easily
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Did I have a stroke-
0 likesI actually think that princess is the mother of cadence..And sense she was created with a love potion, that's why it's her ability :3
1 likeThe only thing that I don't get is in the love story the princess was older, and when Cadens makes the love spell she was very young but I LOVE YOUR VIDEO
0 likesI have a theory on Queen Chrysalis and that is that some time in the future, thorax and his new colony might be dying out (since only she can create new changlings) so theyll reach out to cadence and flurry heart (if they really represent motherhood relationships) and theyll free chrysalis. If she was their mother as well itd only make sense that people who understand those bonds would be able to repair her
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I had the same idea
0 likesI have a question.. it is said that dragons grow on greed and spike is small because he is not greedy but in the future we see spike is BIG so is...Spike greedy in the future.. I hope you make a video on this
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Or it was an assumption since ponies didn't know a lot about dragons. But, I think he just one case out of all the other cases.
1 likeMaybe but it still is a good theory
0 likesIt could have been where there used to be many alicorns but since of an alicorn falling under that big of a spell clestea could have took control and pretended that it never Happened and that’s why Celestia said that a birth of an alicorn they have never seen and cadence could of been to young to remember her mother.
0 likesSawtooth maybe love is the reason why the crystal empire was abandoned for a very long time and the ponies picture of hearts and hoofs day are cadences parents when she grew she ruled the crystal empire and flurry followed her hoofsteps thats what i think
1 likeso if that was her maybe it kind of explains why flurry heart is an Alicorn baby maybe... or the ruler of the changelings just got married to Fury's dad shes an chrysalis is an Alicorn so maybe this sounds weird though it's just a guess or hypothesis😁
1 likeMy theory;
10 likesCandence is the daughter of the ponies in the book, which is how she can do the spell. Her parents ruled over the crystal empire, but when king sombra attacked they sacrificed them selves so their daughter could escape. Their daughter (who was a toddler at this time) was found near the woods. The girl was an allicorn so she was taken to the royal Sisters. The sisters reconizied the girl and took her in. When the crystal empire was brought back candence (and shining armor who she had met while she was with the sisters) was sent back to fulfill her desting.
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Cadence was born a peagus and she gained her horn to be a Princess.
0 likes@Quitted I know, I was thinking maybe she earned it before sombra maybe creating the crystal heart or something. But I do still think she is their kid, she was just born a pegasus
0 likesHadn’t princess celestia called cadence her niece in the episode in which it’s cadences wedding to shinning armour ?
1 likeShe totally is that allacorn from hearts n hooves day with a good explanation like that she is.
0 likesWho tf called her a mary sue I generally wanna know, so many fandoms consider many characters mary sues without considering what they've truly been through. For example the Wings of Fire fans consider Moonwatcher a mary sue because she has all the lost powers of her tribe. However she can't control these powers and often wished to get rid of them due to severe headaches and nightmares caused by them. We don't know much about Cadence, so if someone out there calls her a mary sue i'm gonna get my debate voice ready.
1 likeThe reason we don’t know anything about Cadence is she was made specifically to sell toys.
0 likesI mean, that’s literally the entire show’s purpose… I don’t know where I was going with this joke.
In the My Little Pony comics I remember there being mentions of 'the crystal princess' and there seemed to be a lot of lore that surrounded the Crystal Empire and Cadance. It's been a while since I've read them, but it could be something worth looking into.
5 likesThought I don't think the mlp staff did this on purpose, I do support this theory.
0 likesEspecially sinse Cadance had a fallen kingdom out of no where to deal with wich was the cristal impire.
The thumbnail is too adorable.
0 likesJust imagine if the 2 ponys are siblings or relatives
0 likesI think Candance IS that princess, and after affected by the potion, she gots the power of love, and later, she has been Twilight's babysitter and later again, she didcovered the true love whith shining armor!
1 likeCadence is my favorite pony and princess. She always has been and always will be. No matter what.
6 likesNawww then it's sooo wonderful that she got her Happy End 🥺
0 likes3:43 this is a morbid idea. But the spells broken after a hour of the two not looking at each other. So what if the prince.... Died? From any cause That could technically break the spell...
0 likesI don’t know if this helps with any conclusions or anything but I have found out that candence is the niece of Luba and celestia so that means they must have a brother
0 likesAnd then we learn that cadence was a Pegasus.
1 likeI have a theory, what if the two ponies in the story where Candice’s parents and how the potion was transferred by birth to Candice as her magic, and she was born unicorn, Like stated they where so distracted with each others eyes they let their kingdom crash before them and so on, maybe during the exact time it was falling apart Candice was born and watched it all fall. Over time she was ignored by her parents and left alone and neglected young, but Celestia came and rescued her and gave her the wings as a gift (idk) and gave her a new life and let her baby sit as a job.
0 likesOver time while she got older, since she was born in the kingdom before it fell, she was still a princess so she took on the roll and found love.
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Idk that’s just what I think, I don’t watch much mlp but watching this made me think 👀
0 likesMaybe cadence makes pony’s stop a arguing and come to a compromise while still loving them
0 likesI just needed to know if she always had wings. Thanks.
0 likesme: watches video
0 likesme : starts forming a theory
also me: reads comments
The old memories of me being a filly and when cadence was babysitting me.
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lmao
0 likesLol
0 likesTell me more
0 likesHahaha i love my little pony
0 likes@Aisha Mohamed I wish to but you gotta find out yourself :) lots of friendship twilight sparkle
1 likeyeah no but she was pretty young when she did the spell on the couple. She was just a bit higher than twilight at the time and the love potion happened a long time a go so it could be her relative in the past plus she already had her cutie mark at the time.
0 likesprobably you gotta think cadence kingdom was fallen but that was by king Sombra so i think I'm going to agree with the theory that cadence could be the princess in the story cause princess cadence has her own kingdom and that could be the kingdom in the story of hearts and hooves day and since princess cadence name is princess of love she probably could have had the spell even before the prince gave her the potion. but heres my question if cadence had the love spell before the prince why did she drink the love potion?
0 likesCould the alicorn in the story be Queen Chrysalis? Since chrysalis does have wing and a horn (Well sort of). And because of the tale she didn't believe in love and friendship and just fed on it?
0 likesStrange… I never knew her past I never thought of her past tho
0 likesIsn’t it weird that human Twilight when she goes trough the portal, she becomes a unicorn, although when she “ponys up” she has alicorn horns? Weird?
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Cartoon logic at its finest
8 likesWell so did sunset shimmer I think. It probably had something to do with twilight’s crown.
6 likesBecause pony Twilight and human Twilight aren't same person, they are not connected it that way if something happend to one, this happened to the other one...
9 likesMy headcanon is that the characters' "ponying up" is tied to their connections with their other selves in Equestria (hence why it got turned off immediately after the portal was closed in the first film), so Sci-Twi has wings despite being a unicorn due to her connecting with FiM Twilight at the time.
12 likesIn Equestria girls everyone is in High School while the protagonists seem to be young adults in pony world, the CMC are in highschool even though they are only preteens in human world. That world doesn't make sense
4 likeswhat ❤️
0 likes@iCrEaM ! Twilight wasn't ponied up when she went through the portal.
0 likes@Yay Yay I Didn’t Ask, So You’re saying if Twilight Wasn’t Ponied Up She Would’ve Came Back As An Unicorn? Plus That Was Meant To Be A Humorous Comment.
0 likes@Yay Yay I Just Said Something Funny I Never Wanted To Start A Debate. I Don’t Recall Stating A Theory
0 likesIf you think about this and the long time ago part, Twilights brother isn't that old! It wouldn't make sense for it to be "A long time ago" if he isn't very old. Yes, Cadance could be in that story with another man, but wouldn't she want to love just that man forever? Even after he died??
0 likes(Just my thoughts though, i still think its a good theory)
"What should we do about this messed up live magic"
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Sawtooth I love youre videos this might explain why Flurryheart is not a true allicorn in one of youre older videos
0 likesI love Candice! She’s my favorite pony in mlp!
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Who’s Candice?
0 likes@𝕊x𝕞𝕡𝕤 Sorry auto correct. *Cadance
0 likesLove the new outro!
22 likesThis is like how they told us the backstory of bright Mac and pear butter but left out how they died☠️
I think they were her relatives instead
0 likesThe time she used thatvshe was young
I don't think the prince could have been a foal who wanted to make the princess in love with him
They are two adults in the picture and it just seems weird that a prince, who is a kid would be obsessed with a princess so maybe he and the princess are related to cadence
We don't know much about her orgions or is she born a princess...
I think that when she earned that cutie mark then she had that magic or this could also be true that cadence is their daughter
0 likesThis still doesn’t explain to me how Cadance’s cutie mark is clearly the crystal heart even though she had nevwr even heard of it until The Crystal Empire. NO ONE know about the crystal heart yet it’s her cutie mark? How?
0 likesCadence used the love spell because she doesn't remembered that she was drinking the love potion, just like bigmac and cheerily
0 likesAs soon as you said” all this sounds familiar” I just knew that episode I just knew it!!!
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Oh, when he said 'all this sounds familiar', i actually thought of chrysalis 😅
3 likes@Abhijnan Mukherjee Hilarious
3 likes@J lol 🤣
3 likes@Abhijnan Mukherjee Why would you think it was chrysalis
2 likes@J I wrote a comment near the top, I will copy paste it
1 like@J I wrote that: I thought chrysalis was the alicorn princess in the book but she turned evil: this is because she had the love potion but then Princess celestia had to break the potion's effects and as sawtooth said, she maybe separated the two from each other. Heartbroken, her only aim is to gain as much love as she possibly can and tries to take it from others because she was so distraught
3 likes@Abhijnan Mukherjee lol
2 likes@Abhijnan Mukherjee that would be amazing though
2 likes@J 😀😊
0 likesMaybe Cadence's backstory is so dark that Hasbro doesn't know how to explain it in a childrens' show without the ratings going up.
0 likesI just have a feeling there’s gonna be another princess because if you look at the last season of my little pony well actually episode basically every time there’s always someone that will basically just the princess so I think the person from the last episode will be the next princess
0 likesI dont think that cadence was the pony in the hearts and hooves day cause even if celestia did free the two from the love poison then she wouldnt look a bit younger cause in the book the pony is like almost the mane 6’s age and cadence looks a bit younger then them in twilight’s flashback so thats why I think that cadence is the pony in hearts and hooves day
0 likesI love how the thumbnail is just a base of Sweetie Belle, Applebloom and Scootaloo from the episode "One bad apple"
0 likesHey I was thinking of a video idea!
4 likesWho do you think the elements of Harmony get passed down to? If they even do. Even though the tree got destroyed, it still has a connection with the school 6. Maybe in the future they earn new necklaces? The pillars say that the elements are based off of their traits that got passes down to the mane 6. What if they get passed down every generation? If the school 6 got them, who would get which element?
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check out my video "how the tree of harmony died"
1 likeNow I have a question about My Little Pony the question is can there be a stallion that can be a prince like it was a unicorn but then it did something extraordinary and earned its wings does that make sense
0 likesPlease check out the comics, it says a lot of pasts of the ponies ❤️🦄🦄
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It also says cadydence's past🦄❤️🦄
0 likesThe comics aren't always canon.
0 likesNo I have a theory the due to the love potion they got obsessed with each other and then one day they had a kid but the Love potion affected that kids cutie Mark and they were born with one and not to mention they were born as an alicorn due to the mom's genetics which explains how flattery heart was born an alicorn and it explains her cutie mark and her powers
0 likesWell I see no other option because that alicorn looks almost egsactly like Caden’s and it it was over 1000 years ago when a alicorn is formed she remains emortal I meal look at celestia she’s the oldest alicorn being over like 100.000 years old so this is completely possible
1 likeGonna have to put a thorn to this theory but the Alicorn in the story looked more like adult cadence and not like filly cadence so its more likely that the alicorn in the story was the FIRST princess of love for crystal empire and when the empire fell sombra took over.. so its more likely cadence was got the power of love either from A) a spell or B) from her cutie mark but thats just a theory! A PONY THEORY! THANKS FOR READING.
13 likesI think the Prince in hearts and hooves day gave the potion to the Princess of the Crystal Empire and they had a foal named Cadence she got cutie mark after her crystaling the Prince and Princess in hearts and hoves day did not care about the crystal empire and King Sombra took over and killed the Prince and Princess and Cadence was rescued by the the Royal sisters because she was the last hope of the crystal empire and later they asked her foal the brightest foal Twilight in the hope she would learn spells and magic from her and become ready to take her royal duties. The Royal sisters then defeatad Sombra
0 likesAfter Cadence grew up she fell in love with Shinning Amour and married him and they had a alicorn foal named Flurry Heart
I think it was cadance parents affectwd by the potion.as she the queen disregarded the empire due to the potion it was easier for enemies to attack take over and forget crystal empire existed.and cadance is the after math of it all the potion between her parents
0 likesWe can't tell if the father was a Pegasus
Cadence could not be the same princess. While she was babysitting twilight, she did NOT have wings! Yes, she was a princess, but we do get an example of royalty without being alicorns in the show. Example being the prince that rarity tried to enjoy the grand galloping gala with.
0 likesNot gonna lie, when I heard that Cadance was Celestia's niece, I was like 'Luna had a daughter???'
0 likesThis theory seems “Love”ly
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3 likesGood one😄
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2 likesI LOVE THE OWL HOUW TO!
4 likes@Sajia Sultana nice!
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1 likeNo she wasn't her it was her mom and dad because her dad fell in love with her mom and she is the princess's niece so that means her mom was a princess or her dad was a prince and that would tell you why she has the power of love like the magic in the story and the story said the kingdom fell when they fell in love so the christal Napier had no king or queen and her murk has to do with the christal Napier her mom or dad was the prince or princess
1 likemaybe cadence is the result of that spell? it would also explain why she has a connection to love magic
0 likesIt would be even more confusing if that alicorn wasn’t cadence. Because then we would be stuck with the thought that there was another alicorn that just up and vanished
0 likesIf his theory is true about her being Celestia's niece, then all the princesses are related in a way. Because twilight is Cadance's sister in law
0 likesMy theory: the victim of the spell was the unknown "Princess Amore" who used to rule the crystal empire.
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Princess Amore is from The MLP Comics and MLP Comics Aden 100% canon
9 likesMaybe,the prince and princess were cadence's parents and her mother(the victim princess)was Princess Amore and the fallen empire,actually the crystal empire and when "the empire fell" was actually sombra taking control of the empire as the Princess Amore was to busy in fake love to do her duties and then Celestia and luna defeated Sombra and celestia took in Cadance while tragically Princess Amore died when Sombra invaded.And as a result of the powers similar to the original potion were passed on down to Cadance!
7 likes@INBISAAT VLOGS That is possible
3 likesUmm... The comics say that Princess Amore was a unicorn, not an alicorn. Plus, she had curls.
3 likes@Night Star Well, The Comics aren’t 100% canon. And Sawtooth Waves doesn’t make theories about them.
1 likeSo if we are considering princess a more as the victim...did kind sombra take over the crystal empire because she was in the love trance and couldn’t stop him...
1 like@Deanie That is possible
0 likesWhen u say kingdom then it could be the people in the book are cadence’s parents they could have teached her about the love spell and left her in charge after they were seperated
0 likesGuys do ya'll remember when Celestia and Luna said "I never seen a thing like this before."
0 likesWhen Flurry Heart was born?
And Candance was a pegols (To lazy to check spelling) in the book?
I think it was a different Alicorn, and that was Candance's great great Grandparents.
Plus Celestia and Luna would have already been born to see or hear the birth of Candance.
So no, I don't think that's her Mother. I think it would have been her or her Great Great grandparents or something.
This is my opinion.
Wait..if Caydence is seen as an Alicorn when she babysat Twilight does that mean she became an Alicorn at a very young age or was she born one like Fleury Heart?!
0 likesi feel like cadence is the potion victims child and that's why she can do that magic
0 likesWhy is NO ONE and I mean NO ONE talking about how CUTE the thumbnail is
0 likes3:20 - actually I accept it as a coincidence, unless the stallion was the alicorn its not out of the ordinary at al
0 likesI think she might have learn to cast a spell of love
0 likesi dont think the princess from the story is cadence, she cant be that old considering how much she has grown since babysitting twilight. and she was like a teenager then so i doubt she would have been having a serious relationship and holding her own kingdom before she met twilight. Unless alicorns take extra long to mature into adults too, i doubt shes much older than 40.
0 likesAn interesting take. She could also be the product of said Love Poison.
4 likesI just came up with something that's most likely false and untrue, but fun to think about
0 likesWhat if the stallion is king sombra? Hear me out;
He loved her and casted the spell, not getting what he wanted, that could explain why hes so hungry for the chrystal heart. As for the horn, maybe it was the dark magic? We have only scene dark magic on unicorns, so maybe king sombra's horn is just dark magic, explaining why his horn was so easily cut off on his first appearance (remember the tip of his horn fell off?)
Now this probably isnt even the case, but the whole situation reminds me of ashfur and squirrelflight, especially what's happening in the newest books (props to whom ever also reads warrior cats)
Do you have any idea who the hell is Storm king from the movie?
0 likesHe might be the character who is not existed in the main story.
(The creators made him just for the movie)
But Tempest was in the 9th season.
What if the kingdom that fell WAS the crystal empire. When the prince gave her the love potion she was unable to protect the crystal empire and king sombra was able to take over.
0 likesYou missed a part . You didn't tell us how cadence got her horn. She earned her horn by defeating an evil sorceress. After defeating the sorceress she appeared in the same place in which Celestia gave twilight wings. Cadence wasn't a unicorn she was born as a Pegasus. but after defeating the sorceress she got her horn from princess Celestia, and that is how she became an alicorn princess
0 likesWho are the original rulers of the crystal empire? Was it Cadence and she was distracted by the love potion that the crystal empire fell. (Although these that whole age thing where she looked real young babysitting twilight) Her power to “recreate” the potion could be like the theory of Luna’s splotch....A “scar” of their past
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Or the OG rulers could have been her parents and maybe her mom had ids while she was still under the potion, impacting cadence’s magic
0 likesi agree this is quite convincing. my first thought was she was the daughter of these two lovers,?
0 likesguys by the way, I don't think Cadence's mother is that alicorn. remember, Cadence is a pegasus originally
0 likesWhat about the Crystal heart?💙
0 likesIf it is cadence and alicorns a belief to be immortal it could have been the stallions death that ultimately separated them
0 likesMy theory on cadence isn’t really a theory and more like a funny realization. So when there was no Luna, and the crystal empire was still hidden, the only rulers were celestia and cadence. Celestia was probably a busy pony. Running a school and teaching her prized pupil. When celestia was doing all that, she left cadence in charge. We k is this because the Gaurds were used to taking royal orders even when celestia was gone. How many big decisions did cadence have to make? Could this be how she met shining armor? Will this comment get any replies? The world will never know.
0 likesI have another Idea what if the prince and the princess in the book was Cadence mother and father and maybe the potion was still in her mother and father which led her having the potion apart of her body and magic. So now her power is love or the love poison.
1 likeSo sad😭😭😭l love cadence the ending is so dad❤️
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thank you turtle
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0 likes@Sawtooth Waves
2 likesThis is how I think it would have gone, I stated my reasons in a previous comment which I accidently deleted. But I'll throw in the important stuff here. I think that Cadence was the daughter of the alicorn in the Hearts and Hooves day story (I think Isolde suits her)
Reason 1. Age. Although like you said the story was vague with the timeline. I'd have to guess that the story but be at least 500 to 1000 years old and although we don't know his age- wait (frantic google searching) As far as I know we don't know his age but I doubt that he is centuries old. Though even if Cadance was Isolde's daughter she would still be 100s of years old but maybe alicorns age slower..? I guess but it's still not solid ground to stand on that would suggest either theories but I still wanted to bring it up.
Reason 2. Storytime. If Cadance was Isolde why and how would she have the same love magic as the prince? Sure you could ague that she learned it or was always fascinated by that branch of magic but I think that's too simple and vague. Soiler. Voldemort from Harry Potter was born out of a love potion a one sided love without 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 love so he was born incapable of loving and turned out to be a heartless killer because of it. Spoiler. Rapunzel from Disney was born after her mother ate a magic flower which gave her magic powers. I think you see where I'm going with this. After Isolde drank the love potion and fell into a false love or as J.K. says, an obsession, she had Cadence who wasn't able to love anyone or if you want to make it more tragic can only love her parents who are to busy being obsessed with each other to care for her. But she can controll other people's love which she does irresponsibly when she's young to try and have some control in her life.
Reason 3. I don't have a reason 3 that I can remember. It's late my brain hurts I've been here for hours send help.
This took me almost three hours to think of and type out then half of it got deleted so I hope you enjoy.
Isolde was the most beautiful pony in all of Equestria and many a stallion wanted her hoof in marriage. She was a princess and alicorn. She turned them all down. She swore not to fall in love as her mother, Etain, had fallen in an out of love with many different suiters going through much heartbreak. Isolde promised herself that no stallion would ever get the better of her. One day Etain and Isolde went out to the kingdom of Cozbi to secure diplomatic relations. Normally Etain went by herself but aparrently there was a prince Isolde's age and them going could benefit both kingdoms. Isolde agreed- reluctantly as she knew arguing with her mother wouldn't end well. When they arrived they were led into a fancy hall with dim lighting and a single candle lit table with two chairs sat in the centre. 'I don't know what I was expecting' Isolde thought as Etain left. The prince sat at the first of the chairs and smiled at her. It wasn't a creepy smile, Isolde found it charming. She smiled back and started to pull the chair out but the prince got there first. 'Thank you' she said. 'What's your name?' 'Amir.' They chatted, ate, danced and laughed for hours and when Amir said that that night had been a blast and he really enjoyed Isolde's company and if she would be his. When Isolde rejected him saying that she only saw him as a friend. He sighed and said 'I understand but would you atleast have a drink with me? To a good friendship!' He took out a bottle intricately decorated with swirls and hearts and lines that looked like words but must've been in another language as Isolde couldn't read them. He poured them a goblet each and before they drank Isolde repeated 'To a good friendship.' Some time past. Isolde didn't know how much time but she did know that it was time spent with Amir and that's all she needed to know. Before long they got married and had a daughter called Cadence. Cadence was special, she was born without love and therefor she couldn't love. The weird thing about her though is that she could still manipulate the love of others. Though try as she might she could not make her parents love her as she wanted and deserved and the sad thing was they were the only ponies that she seemed to love. Isolde didn't spend much time with Cadence nor pay her much attention. As far as she was concerned the only thing that mattered was Amir and how lucky she was that they met. Soon Celestia heard rumors of a kingdom that falling into ruin as result of neglect from it's rulers. But when she arrived she realised that it was much more serious than negligence. She came into the throne room to see a 7 year-old Cadence trying to catch the attention of her parents as they stared into eachothers eyes, not knowing nor caring that their kingdom was falling into ruin and chaos by their hooves. Celestia recognised the dark magic immediately and tried to pull them apart and save them from the spell but they had been under the curse of forced love for to long and it had become unbreakable. With a heavy heart Celestia turned her back on the false couple and took little Cadence under her wing and back to Canterlot where with many trials and tribulations she managed to cure Cadance from her curse too.
As for the townsponies of Cozbi, Celestia sent them to the up and coming town of Mainhattan.
I also think it would be cool for Flurry Heart to go back to see her grandparents and break the curse. I can imagine Cadence forbidding her from going but that not stopping anyway and then after they have a mother-daughter moment that super sweet and nice and stuff.
Sorry for replying so out-of-contexty but I really wanted you to see it. I hope you liked it and didn't mind the length to much I tend to get a little carried away sometimes.
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1 like@Julianne Mina LMAO 🤣 also @Lello Lemon that would make a lot of sense, did you come up with that yourself? It's a really good theory
0 likesSince the reign of the Kedan Crystal Empire, its wings have become two-colored.
0 likesWhat about the comic with her and shining armor in high school, or are the comics not cannon. Even if they aren’t cannon it’s still an interesting story about cadence.
0 likesIf cadence is celestas niece then dose that make Luna her mom or did they have another offscreen sibling, or maybe she’s an adopted niece? Idk but it would be a good theory.
1 likeshe looks like she's around her teens in the love spell clip, and both ponies in the story look much older than her.
0 likesWhen Sawtooth uploaded we all SPEEED
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Yes
1 likeLeast no one commented ( f i r s t )
3 likes@Jon ikr
1 likeI AM SPEED
2 likesEven if they were her parents how could potions tern into spells
0 likesWhat about the Crystal Empire and Sombra? Maybe Cadence was the ruler of the Crystal Empire and Tried a love potion on her to gain the empire
0 likesIt might be that they are cadences mom and dad and cadences parents split up and her dad and mom where not in her life for long and when she was younger she thought she could stop it from happening to anyone else by making everyone in love with each other and stoping fights. Idk just my thoughts :)
1 likeEdit:spelling
another theory - her parents were the ponies in the story, and because she was possibly concieved because of that spell, her magic is associated with the magic of the potion.
0 likesDidn't at some point in there they say"the crystal princess has returned!" I vaguely remember that for some reason
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No, the crystal ponies said, “Behold! The Crystal Princess!”
11 likes@Reese I find the fact that they instantly know who she is interesting. That's the gist of what I was saying.
9 likesYep, same
0 likesYa they did
0 likesI think it might be crystalist because she also has a horn and wings as well it could be her because she got her heart broken at one point by discord
0 likesI don't think that The alcorn under the love spell is cadence I think that they related to cadence And that's how she has love magic but it's away she wasn't always in the cord if you watch the full series and you would have known that she was turning into an alcorn
0 likesI think that those two ponies in the story are her parents and with the love potion they had a kid and the spell mixed with Cadences magic
0 likesI kinda think that the princess and stallion might be Cadences parents. Maybe the princess was pregnant and gave birth to cadence while the love potion was still having affect. Therefore since love potion must’ve affected the baby/ cadence during the pregnancy, causing Cadence to have her magic. Also, in Twilights childhood memories, Cadence seems too young to rule a kingdom.Tho I’m not sure entirely what the customs are in the mlp world. I think Celestia might of took in young Cadence in and raise her after Sombras defeat while her parents where no where to be found? Idk, just an idea
0 likesWhen you were talking about how similar the 2 seemed I thought you were going to say that Alicorn was her ancestor, if that were true then it would admittedly make more sense with the timeline, because Cadence is depicted at a young age in the flashback, so how does she suddenly go from Full grow mare to Young Foal if she was the victim if that spell? It just doesn't work, which why I think the victim of that love spell might have been her ancestor, it's not perfect obviously, but I think it answers more questions than it raises.
3 likesCould of been a full episode
0 likesI think you need to do some research on the Crystal empire because it may be related to the story of “Where did Cadance come from?”
0 likesBut what if twilight's memory of cadence is distorted? since, twilight was a little girl at the time and usually adults tend to remember things differently than when they were kids
0 likesI think that princess cadence doesn’t want to show the way that she feels in real pony life so we had to try to see what the mystery is behind princess cadence
0 likesi think the magic that cadence used is not what u think it was .... i think, when she did the spell, she did that to make those couple calm and maybe she did that to make them calm and so they could fix their problem in a calm and better way.....
0 likesMaybe it was her mom that was the mystery Alicorn and celestia saved her and she inherited the potion
0 likesflowing hair she was a cutie pie, meaty face and a lovely eye
0 likesYou forgot one thing. What about king Sombra and his takeover of the crystal empire? How is he connected?
0 likesGreat job with this video. I love backstories and this theory is very interesting. Keep up the good work. Long live princess Cadance.👸♥️🦄👍
3 likeswhat if the prince from the love potion story was King Sombra since he and Cadance are connected to the Crystal Empire they might have been ruling it and that's how the Crystal Empire fell and then Celestia saves Cadance and Sombra saw that Celestia took away his love since in the story the prince loved the princess and then he went to get revenge and found a dark magic book which we could possibly connect to shadow pony but anyway he would get a fake horn made of dark magic which could explain why it looks different like it's fake and try to grow an army to attack Celestia.
0 likesInteresting Theory
0 likesThough I thought of something else Maybe the ponies in hearts&Hoves day are her parents?
... hMMMmM. It must have been the book. Somehow, the book must have told the future. But how? Who was it? Maybe the person who wrote was one of the greatest pony’s of all, Celestia. But seriously. How did she find that spell? Ya know, that future spell? Maybe, she knew it herself and wrote it. That prince, He looked a lot like shining armor. Shining armor must have saw the cutie crusaders and thought he might take the book. He took the book and started making it, and gave it to Cadence. But he never knew that cadence was already in love with shining! So, when the spell wore off, cadence told shining her feeling, and then they got married? Maybe that was what happened.
0 likesHer kingdom fell and Sombra saw his chance!
0 likesCould sombra have been the prince could the crystal empire have been her kingdom
0 likesMaybe after she was saved her turned evil
The love spell must lasted a long time
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Yea
0 likesWhat about Princess Amore? A past ruler of the crystal empire..? I mean if u look it up they have similarities in looks and name. Also Princess Amore ruled like Cadence, just saying.🤔
0 likesIdk why but I see Cadance as a pony version of cupid when she uses her love powers. Is that just me?-
0 likesIncredible, the return
6 likesAlicorn and the prince could have been Cadence's parents.
0 likesI’m thinking of some VERY dark theories related to this theory and Cadance’s past but I don’t wanna share em since it’s like disgusting
0 likesmaybe the Princess is Chrysalis since she's kinda an alicorn. That could explain the traumas she's endured to be such a vilain..? :)
0 likesI think Cadance is the daughter of the princess of the rulers of the cristal empire,that explains why she is always happy ,which explains her cutie mark,F.Y.I the heart is a cristal heart.
0 likesHello I love your videos keep going I’m so happy your uploading again.
5 likesIn my opinion Chrysalis is the princess in the book cause her kingdom was failed and her powers are against the love
0 likesI believe the prince and princess has to be Cadance's parents because Cadance herself was pretty young when she was twilight's babysitter, her cutie mark probably represents love as her parents were affected by a love potion so it makes sense. Her powers are similar to the love potion because her parents were affected by it so their love child was basically created due to the potion so it makes sense for her power to be similar. I just don't believe that SHE was under that love potion but instead it could be her parents. Not to mention that She does look kinda like the princess in that scroll but not exactly~
0 likesPerhaps Cadance was the result , not the victim, of the love potion?
0 likesThe thumbnail is adorable
0 likes3:19
11 likesI thought that meant cadence was their daughter and she inherited that magic , and because of their love the kingdom fell and sombra took over
I miss my heart in the void I miss the live in my feelings! Why can I feel better
0 likesDo an episode explaining how prince blueblood is celestia's nephew
0 likesI think she might be that alicorn's daughter or some sort of descendant from her at least
0 likesAlso how did cadence earn her cutie mark? and the Cristal heart is also in her cutie mark and if she’s the Princess of love then why is the Cristal empire’s people call her the princess of Cristal she’s really Mysterious🤔🧐
0 likesOur boi is back at it again
10 likesCadence never says that sun queen [ I CANT SPEEL HER NAME ] WAS HER AUNT BUT WE KNOW THAT THE SUN QUEEN MADE CADENCE
0 likesHER NIECE SO DUS CADENCE KNOW THE SUN QUEEN IS HER AUNT
Wait, wait, wait. I get, where you coming from, but can't she be the prince's and the princess' child? I mean, she was young, when she cast the spell on those ponies, which means, she hadn't have duties yet, which she abandoned, because she fell in love with a prince, then ruined her kingdom then be found by Celestia, then being away from the prince for enough time to break the spell then being an around teenage friend of Twilight. Just simlpy doesn't add up in my mind.
0 likesI JUST LOVE THE THUMBNAIL OTS SO CUTE!!!!
1 likeOk but I love Cadence so it’s fine 🫶🫶
0 likesI actually really enjoy this theory. This is my new head canon now
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His alicorn Goddess land is in my head canon
0 likeshi I am moonlight sparkle ,I think the princess who drank the love potion besides cadence is her mother, princess amore and the prince is sombra (back when he was good )
0 likesNice thumbnail, I’ve seen the episode to know that it’s supposed to be the cutie mark crusaders song “bad seed” in the episode “One Bad Apple”
0 likesBut at that time of hearts and hoves day cadance looks grown if it was in the past cadance would still be little
1 likeGirl on picture on here of love potion 🧪 look like her crown it made with pearls or other Ocean 🌊 shells 🐚 and this do you read member my little of people change from land to water 💦 them that what it look like 👍🏻 🫣😨🥺😖 and this amazing keep up the good work :> I watch this lot of times!
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12 likesMe: drops everything to watch the video
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Me too I left every important thing and came to see the video😄😄
1 likeI never noticed in the book if you look closely you can see the wings on the girl pony in the book
0 likesI don't think she's the one from the story. Just like you think that Luster D isn't daughter of Starlight because Spyke doesn't even recognize her, twilight doesn't recognize Cadence in the story neither, plus she indeed looks younger when twilight was with her, what it could be possible (and that I'm not surprised it wasn't even mentioned xd) is that the kingdom that fell apart had to be ruled by the daughter of the two king and queen, and that's why cadence had the obligation/chance of being alicorn when she was younger, because she was already being prepared to rule the fallen kingdom that their parents left. Although I don't actually think the tale relates too much with cadence.
0 likesI THINK I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED! So, cadence was in Crystal Empire blah Blahand I think maybe king Sombra was a normal pony, and he liked cadence and so he made the love potion and things, so he turned to KING because cadence is a princess and all, and when thye got separated, he turned evil and came back for revenge, it has something to do with the war. Then cadence said: "WHY DID U DO THIS, I THOUGHT U LOVED ME" or something like that. THEN HE GOT VANISHED.
2 likesI agree with Benrisal and pastel I think that the pony’s are Cadence’s parents
0 likesWouldn’t cadence have told twilight if she was that Alicon in the book?
0 likesIf Cadence is their duter that's how she learned the lovespell.
0 likesI love her hair colour so much
2 likesAnd, I know the crystal kingdom was banished, but what if that kingdom that fell was the crystal kingdom? It’s weird but I kind of makes sense?
0 likesWhat if the Alicorn from the book on hearts and hooves day was. Celestia
0 likes"If Cadence was called by the map then she would just cast a ####### spell and leave"
0 likesWhy does she look so evil if she's the princess of love? Wait it could be Queen Chrysalis
I think the two couples from hearts and hooves day are her mom and dad
0 likesthe true question is WHO WAS THE STALIAN THAT GAVE HER THE LOVE POTION and where is he now and is he dead or alive
0 likesSawtooth: posts
40 likesMe: in class..
Also Me: Ehh... maybe just a little bit..
STILL Me: watches whole video due to being sucked in
Her grandmother must be that 👸 🤴 👑 princess
0 likesHer kingdom that fell was the crystal empire
0 likesFun fact: In the past, people show that Celestia had pink hair instead rainbow :D
0 likesWhat if the alicorn princess was cadence's mother?
0 likesFinally, I've been waiting for the love magic episode for so long
3 likesGood theory
Sawtooth: Says something
0 likesMe: Seems legit
I always thought that alicorn looked like princess cadence
0 likesI love my little pony 💞
0 likesI think the two off heart day may have had a child and that could be Caidence
0 likesSo my theory is that unicorn and pony was cadence's Parent's and as the result of the potion since it was so strong cadence was gifted with the power of love and cadence's Parent's where so inlove with each other they didn't do their royal duties,neither give cadence attention but only themselves. Cadence's soon took on the royale duties while her parents where so lovely dovely with each other. And from that Cadence's did do many things incorrect but she was trying and learned responsibly. But the kingdom was still falling,one of the ponys ran to the Princesses,Princess Chelesria and Princess luna for help and the Princesses banished Cadence's Parent's for letting tje kingdom fall and let their daughter do the duties (sorry if it dosen't make any sense) while they had fun,Cadence's was now assigned on baby-sitting the little Phillies from the school for gifted unicorns (sorry idk how to spell baby horses) while Chelestia and Luna ruled over the kingdom until cadence was old enough to rule again. (I'm sorry if my theory sounds alittle off i tried, and I haven't really watched my little pony for almost 2 year's,and sorry again for my bad English qwq)
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I think you mean Celestia
0 likesYeah,and if you find words misspelled,please just ignore that-
1 like@Marshmallow_Art's kk
0 likesBtw U got Phillies right
0 likesTy
0 likesMaybe Cadence is the offspring of the two royalty.
0 likescadance is celestia niece/cousin
1 likeMy theory is The Pony who made the princess a love potion Got married and cadance is their child thats hiw she got her power
Is cadence the princess of love BC she was born under a love potion/poison? Just a theory
0 likes”DID SHE EVER GE5 HER HOOFI-CURE??! 😱😭😭😭”
2 likesI don't think it is her maybes it's her mom, maybe during the Magic of the potion the prince and princess had a child aka cadence so she had the power to spread love and magic
7 likes2:29
0 likesLater that day
The girls husband : HONEY THE KIDS 😭
The boys wife : YOU CAN'T LEAVE ME I'M PREGNANT
Me : as you were saying
Yes I think Katens is that love pony.
0 likesDo you know if there was another à la corn in a Questria that got all lovey-dovey didn’t think so otherwise we would know about her more than that vague book It’s like everybody knew it was cadence so they didn’t need to mention it in the book
0 likesNot trying to make sombra the good giy but what if he believed that he was saving the crystal empire though he was the bad guy and definetly a tyrant what if he believed he was the good guy which is why he returned again. He beleived that the kingdom needed him.
0 likesThe mare at the beginning of the video is Wild Fire from Daring Do and eternal flower 🌸
4 likesI recommend it to you😀
i miss my little pony lmao
0 likesOh no Sawtooth I think you have now made me hate Cadence. Why? 1. She forces love and forcing love is wrong, and 2. (This is the big one) She's basically torturing an entire species. she keeps on creating love and more love and plenty of love. More than enough and yet she won't even let the changeling kingdom have a single drop of love. Name one person/pony you know who does that who's NOT a villain. I'm waiting. Still waiting. So sleepy... it's 12 in the morning... zzzzzzz wake me up when you find a pony... zzzzzzzzz
0 likesMaybe the princess in the story was here mam and the potion spread to cadence because it was still part of here and the magic passed on
0 likesHer backstory is right here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=geWnnBKs5q4
1 likeI also think caydence is simply the child of those two
4 likesif that was her in the book then why would you use the spell again if forcing relationships are bad
0 likesNow true question how did cadance got her cutie mark and who is the pony who made the love potion for the princess?
1 likewhat if: did you know bon bon is called by her secret agent name (sweetie drops) in CLH? suspisios.....
0 likesOh I just love the intro music
0 likesSawtooth waves: thinks up amazing theories
Hasbro: ThrOeS thAT thEoRy oUt Da wiNdOw
This also makes sense with discord because when sweetie bell read the description it said something about chaos and a dragon, does that ring a bell?
8 likesAnd remember Princess Amore, maybe she is her mother or grandmother
0 likesI’m sad for cadence
0 likesI mean the girl in the book looks very similar to cadence...
0 likesCadence maybe her name comes from her love and or birth of crystals
0 likesI think it’s actually her parents 🤷
6 likesThe potions still lasted in the mare’s body, so it could have pasted down to Cadence somehow and it became her magic.
I think she is the one who is in the book, and the other was shining armour
0 likesI think that she was from the Crystal Empire and was rescued
0 likesTwilight had her cutie mark when she was in the school for gifted unicorns
0 likesi think she is their daughter or smth like that bc her magic is more like a abiltity like celestias sun rising and it doesnt fit with her age, we dont know her exact age but we can see it on her body shes just a bit older as twilight. but i think the part with celestia might be true since luna and celestia were originally the only princesses in equestria, she might have safed cadence after her parents/grandparents or whoever kingdoms fell
0 likesI literally had a dream about cadance’s childhood yesterday night...
13 likesMaybe the potion was strong it gave her magic
0 likesWell no because the alicorn in the story is older than cadence's past age she's too young to be in a relationship like that.
0 likesNow i think that Cayden is not a good pony than she looks like…
0 likesI think cadence mom is princesses amore and born at crystal empire but when somber attack the crystal empire. Princess Amore is used Magic to put cadence to part equestrian to make Sure her Daughter is safe
0 likesCan you do a video about Starlight?
1 likeIf celestia separated her parent why can't she give back Cadence to her parents
0 likesI think that the ponies in the picture are cadences parents and she was inspired by them to try to make their exact same love potion, then again I have no proof about my theory 😅
0 likesCadence is born as a Unicorn and not an Alicorn!
0 likestrue but how did she learn a spell that is similar to the potion i mean the prince would not have just said "im sorry i put that love spell on you here is how to do it with ur horn" like who would do that??
5 likesI always thought that the prince was shining armor
0 likesI have a question? Why does king zambra can morph like a shadow thing
0 likes????
Shining armor looks like the pony in the book
0 likesit would be funny if queen chrysalis was that alicorn who's kingdom fell
0 likesAre the comics canon or not? Bc somehow, Sawtooth Waves ignores the comics
1 likeAre the comics not considered canon? There is a comic telling how Cadence became Shining Armors girlfriend and how she started babysitting Twighlight.
0 likesWhat if they are cadence's parents instead of being Cadence
0 likesI think that she was wondering around in the woods and she saw her parents and there was a old woman and casted that spell and the old woman put her horn on hers and she made her have that power do you like my idea?
0 likesTo be honest this fits well but my question is what’s luna’s and celesta’a past I wanna know that yeah yeah we know about how she turned into nightmare moon but before that how they got wings or horns who are they’re parents?? Nine of us know
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Sawtooth Waves made several theories about that, on his channel
1 likeDon’t be rude minis dünyasi she probably didn’t see those vids yet, also I think u meant ‘none of us know’ at the end of ur comment cause u said ‘nine of us know*
0 likesin a Q and A session with the writers of the show, they mentioned luna and celestia coming from a land of alicorns (not equestria) and they were only considered princesses in equestria
0 likesHeres a theory-
0 likesDid you notice when she was a kid... she was an alicorn...???
but what did she do to get that...?
and why so young?
was she born like that??
my theory goes like this- cadences mom and dad were rulers of a land beond equetstria. one was a alicorn and one was a pegisai. they gave birth to a alicorn.
but then.. what about her reaction to flurry heart being a alicorn... would she be fine as she knows that she was born a alicorn..
or was she not born an alicorn?
so many questions!!
we never see her reaction to her daughter..
im so confuesed...
I think it is because it looks like AKC made like that spell I left it in the book she tried it first it worked and then a librarian gave him the book and then he made it so probably she had it for that or unicorn
0 likesShe's just a alicorn she loves shining armor
0 likesif you think about it out of the 5 or 4 alicorns cadence might be the alicorn
0 likesThis theory is so accurate I screamed in shock 0-0
4 likeswhat if the stallion is cadence's parents that's why cadence got her love thingy? or maybe not?
0 likesShe is beautiful
2 likesMIND BLOWN. AWESOME
0 likesMaybe the similarities between cadance magic and the potion is the potion not a perfect spell and cadance spell is perfect
0 likesThis feels so relatable... It hurts...
5 likesWhat if it was cadence’s mother? What if the pony in the picture was cadence’s mother, and she was just a unicorn, and not an alicorn. And it was their kid?? And the parents thought cadence was coming in the way and they sent her to celestia or celestia found her?? and that might be how cadence was a unicorn, and she must have learnt the love spell to get her wings!! SO MANY POSSIBILITIES
0 likesExcuse me but another tie is that she was already an Alicorn when she was twilights babysitter
0 likesI thought that the two that had the love postion had a kid and that is what made her have love power
0 likesCelestia gave Twilight's ful sitter her Alicorn Magic right?
1 likeI have been asking this for ages I really Wana know who principle cinch is in the pony world
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They really missed out on the chance to make it principal Sombre, since twilight and her friends didn't "save" the school because they never met he would still be in control
11 likesMeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2 likesToooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Yeah
1 likeMy theory: Sunset Shimmer was born in equestria! She came to the human world. Google says that the pony Sunset killed the human Sunset. Maybe that happened to Principal Cinch too!
5 likesMy second theory: Principal Cinch was a Princess in equestria. And umm she turned into a monster. And uhh she got suspended of being a princess.
My third theory: She's probably not a headmare or a princess in equestria. She is probably a normal pony in equestria.
@BugoyTheDoge the first two are the worst theories ever
0 likes@Rohaan Khan Your opinions are the worst!
2 likes@BugoyTheDoge i never gave an opinion 🤷♂️
0 likes@Rohaan Khan well you sure did judge my theory! 💁♂️
2 likes@BugoyTheDoge because that does not match the theme of MLP
0 likes@Rohaan Khan Well it's my theory.
2 likes@BugoyTheDoge your two last theories crash together. She was a normal pony before being a princess in the 2nd theory or after? (I got confused there)😕
0 likesIf she was a princess (in your 2nd theory),then how she is not probably a princess and just a normal pony (3rd theory). 🤷🏼♂️
I don't want to sound mean ,I just want some clarification because I am totally confused with how the theories work toghter.😅
@Reghu Raman ik but these theories are not the same theories.
0 likesYes I do think cadence is that our corn from my heart and who say why wouldn’t she be she is the princess of love
0 likesOr Cadence is the daughter of the prince who cast the spell
0 likesI don't think that alicorn is Princess Mi Amore Cadenza..... As we know alicorns don't grow old and.. pass away.. they grow taller.. So Cadance would be at least taller than her original height in twilight's memory...
0 likesIf the story was so perfect that it started the "special day" then it must have happened a long time ago...
I don't think it's her cadence might have been related to an alocorn and that could possibly be an Aunt or her mother
0 likesYou should probably talk about the new series of mlp they are new characters to talk about and what we expect from it
4 likesHm maybe that fallen kingdom was the Crystal Empire and when the Kingdom was in chaos was the perfect time for Sombra to take over. Dang what a day for cadence😐 (and that would Explain why she was recognized as the Crystal princess? Idk)
0 likesYes I think she is she even looks like her!
0 likesOmg the alicorn in that picture could be chrysalis
1 likeActually she was a Pegasus and she could always give love then a villain wanted it too so she attacked blah blah blah and she gave the villain love and celestia gave her a horn
0 likesProbably cadence is the daughter from the fallen kingdom of that alicorn and she got took by celestia to train her to control her love magic
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That makes sense since she was adopted.
0 likesYes I do think cadence is the alcohol from hearts and homes day because she is the princess of love
0 likesCould you do a video about the love triangle with sunset shimmer flash sentry and twilight
0 likesaww pegasus sawtooth is gone :<
2 likesIt could be cadence’s mom
0 likesThe Thumbnail looks like The CMC from The Episode & Song “Babs Seed”
8 likesPlot Twist: The couple cadence casted the speed on we’re only friends…
0 likesThe pony from the book is probably not candance the book said the kingdom fell not princess celestia saved them and it all worked out in the end and cadence was young when she babysitted twighlight so the book probably was written a really long time ago and your telling me that she was the princess from the book she also got her wings or horn when she was young
0 likesWhy is 12 year old me watching this..
2 likesMeh who cares. My Little Pony lives on
She got turned into a princess for her love and used to babysit twilight
0 likesThis theory is something else for sure
18 likesI think Twilight would have know if her foalsitter was the princess in question
0 likespodrías hacer un video en español de la vida de ceident
0 likesThey maybe Cadence 's grandparents because when she was baby sitting twilight she was only a bit older so when the prince found the potion how could cadence be alive
1 likeI think Tempest made Cadence fall. After all he does not have a horn?
0 likesCadence is the victim of the love potion
0 likesI like how you make your pony character and it is, rainbow dash: AWESOME
0 likesI think those prince and princess were her parents because the princess in the book was to old to be cadence so maybe her parents were still in love when she was born and she got some of that magic?
0 likeswhat if the story was not right and it was the girl who did the "love" sell and not the boy.....
0 likesI don't know how you get out good theories every week on a dead show
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It's alive.
0 likes@katitobyt my little pony's over it ended
0 likes@Dolphin2048 G5 will come in september. So technically it's still alive.
0 likes@katitobyt different gens are basically different shows
0 likesSince we’re talking about cadance should I cosplay her?
0 likesThe picture looks like cadence was young, but, WHY IS SHE AN ALICORN?!I mean Twilight had to have some sort of friendship magic to get her wings, but in the picture cadence looked like a kid.Was cadence born as an alicorn like flurryheart?!But then again.....Why were they so surprised that flurryheart was a alicorn if cadence was was born as an alicorn?
1 likeI think maybe Cadance is related to Celestia and Luna. Because wasn’t she raised by them? Maybe Cadance is their niece or cousin!
1 likeI think the princess and prince are her parents, maybe the spell wasn’t broken so they passed some of that power down to cadence?
0 likesCadence is the most mysterious alicorn.
3 likesWHAT ABOUT FLURRY BAB
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Cadence is a pegicorn not an alicorn
0 likes@Tophs Right Foot Pegi what?
0 likes@katitobyt A pegicorn.A pegicorn is a pony that had wings before there horn
0 likes@Tophs Right Foot Oh.
0 likesI think that really is cadence I can’t even believe😱
0 likesi thought cadance was born a pegasus and got her horn when she learned how to cast her spells ?
0 likesI think the princess is actually cadences mother and let the Crystal Empire get overthrown by king Sombra
0 likesI don’t think she’s that alicorn I think she’s the daughter of that alicorn
0 likesWell I don’t think so here is why I’m the crystal heart spell after she became an alicorn she got taken in by Celestia and because she looks so young I don’t think celestia would have trusted her with a kingdom
3 likesBoy something got into my head
0 likeswhen Celestia was Daybreaker her cutie mark has a background like luna's.
PLS LOOK AT THIS COMMENT SAWTOOTH
Princess Amore was Cadence's mom
0 likestheres a song on her backstory, i think its called cadence and the crystal empire? or cadence and the crystal heart. its smt like that i dont remember the title of the song
0 likesWhat I think is that those ponies in the book are her parents and got cadence from them but maybe I'm wrong it's just a guess :)
0 likesSawtooth waves; Princess of theories!!
3 likesBtw, it’s 10:30 pm where I’m from, and I’m watching u!!
Love you sawtooth!!
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Prince technally
0 likesPrince*
0 likesnoone:
0 likesnot even luna crying:
not even the cow:
me: is that sombra casting a spell on cadance to rule the kingdom?.. lol what-
i mean she wasn't that old when twilight was a small bean, and when twilight is older cadence looks a lot older too
0 likesand in the crystal empire part 2 somepony said "BE HOLD THE CRYSTAL PRINCESS." so it is true then!
0 likesI think that Cadance is the same Princess from hearts and hwses day.🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄💎💍👑💎💍👑💎💍👑💎💍👑💎💍👑💙💙💙💙💙💙💎💎💎💎💎💎💎
0 likesYou know you've made it when you have a dislike in the matter of a minute
3 likesMaybe that mare in book might be Celestia and luna saved Celastia and after that king sombra had already taken over Crystal empire and the two sisters defeated sombra then Celastia found cadence after that luna becam bad and the rest is just history
0 likesCan you please make a video about baby 4D hearts wings being big
0 likesSawtooth waves you are the best
0 likeshi I am moonlight sparkle ,I think cadences age and Luna's age are similar because their height looks the same
0 likesSawtooth: Candace is the princess in the book
7 likesMe: Or maybe is the daughter or a relative with the two ponies....
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If Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)
2 likes@Miniş Dünyası cadence is a pegicorn cause she was born A Pegasus
1 like@Miniş Dünyası Cadence was born as a pegasus. After defeating a witch and bringing love back to her village, she became an alicorn.
0 likes@katitobyt MLP books and MLP comics aren’t 100% canon and Sawtooth Waves doesn’t see them as canon either
2 likes@Miniş Dünyası exactly
0 likes@katitobyt Mlp books or comics aren't 100 % or I think they aren't even canon to the show so that's impossible
0 likes@Tophs Right Foot that's right
1 like@Miniş Dünyası But I still have a source.
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası We should reference the comics instead of creating sourceless and meaningless theories. MLP: FiM is already ended with unanswered questions. To answer those questions, we should reference the comics.
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası Celestia said that birth of an alicorn is never seen in Equestria. So Cadence is not born as an alicorn.
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası Sombra can't be Cadence's father. If so, they already showed this.
0 likes@Sada -Hoshi And that's not impossible.
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası Sawtooth Waves is just a fan, not a member of the producing team. Idc if he doesn't seem them as canon.
0 likes@katitobyt The comics aren’t 100% canon and Sawtooth Waves doesn’t count them as canon either but if you want to see comics as canon you can
1 like@katitobyt Maybe Celestia and Luna said that so the Main 6 doesn’t know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn with the shock of Flurry Heart it might have not been the right time and place to say that Cadence was also born as an Alicorn
1 like@Miniş Dünyası That's ridicilous. Why would Celestia and Luna lie to Mane 6?
0 likesi ve' been wondering if celestia had a dad
0 likesAnd maybe Simone saved her from the spell
0 likesThis is soooo logical omg
0 likesI love the show
0 likesOkay so Cadence is a r*pe victim as if mlp wasn't dark enough
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Well if you really think about it you’ll see things like terrorism, impersonation, manipulation, near suicides, excessive bullying, abandonment, mental illnesses and disorders, racism, segregation, destruction of public property, murder, scamming, theft, sexism, child endangerment, self entitlement, exile, gaslighting, sexual harassment, abuse, gossip, and discrimination. That makes another to the list. R*pe.
0 likes@Siro Silver let's not forget starving an entire population. Talking about changelings before they got reformed. That's like racism but with more starvation.
0 likesI ALWAYS THOUGH HER NAME WAS CANDICE BUT IT WAS CADANCE???
0 likesPrincess Amore is Cedence mother!
1 likethe alicorn was bigger and cadence was smaller
0 likesits just sad how cadance doesnt have flowy hair like the other princesses
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I have a feeling that if an alicorn is 1000 years old, then they get the flowy hair(cause in the episode called "the last problem" twilight had flowy hair) and some people think that alicorns have an extremely long lifespan because celestia and luna have ruled equestria for more than 1000 years
0 likesI feel like she's too young... she could just be their child. That could be why she had an alicorn baby because they did, but that means the prince and princess didn't know celestial or Luna since they have never seen an alicorn birth...cadence also doesn't say anything or interrupt celestia...
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But won't a royal birth be a big event and would attract many including celestia and luna
1 likeAnd If cadence was born a alicorn that means she would not be THAT surprised when flurry heart turned out to be alicorn
1 likeExcept cadence was not born an alicorn she was just a little older than twilight. She was not the one from the story
0 likesCandance's past is forcing Celestia and Luna to drink smoothie.
0 likesI Have A Weird And Whacky Concept. That Pony That Casted The Spell Was Mabye King Sombra When He Didn't Have A Horn.King Sombra Was A 'Prince' And That Pony Was A Prince.And Since It Was A Long Time Ago They Would Have By Now Become A King.And King Sombra Is A King,So Mabye He Is Full Of Grief And That Is Why He Wants Revenge On Cadence By Trying To Destroy Her Kingdom.
0 likesBut shining armor has a horn and the prince in the story doesn’t
0 likesCan't believe,I am this early ✨👄✨
3 likesI think that Ali corn in the story might be Candace mom and after Candace mom fell in love sombra took over and Celistia saved Candace and Candace mom died during the rain of Sombra. What do you think?
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it's not her mom. the mare having wings was an animation error.
0 likesi like this theory. it make sense she would be the pony spread that kind of spell.
0 likesOkay okay hear me out people what if it was cadences mom who was put under the spell by king sambra and after the spell was broken so he was heartbroken and took over the crystal empire where cadences mom would have been princess and the reason he is not depicted as an unicorn is because the pony who wrote the book was afraid of sombra
0 likesIf Caden’s was the prines that explains how king sombra took over the epire
0 likesAm I the only one who questions how Sunset Shimmer hasn’t encountered herself in the Human world? 😳
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Flashpoint Batman
0 likesThere's a bunch of other ponies we've never seen human versions of and lots of human characters that we've never seen pony versions of. The world is a big place.
5 likesHow did cadence become a alcorn
0 likesthis talk is out of topic but I need you to listen what I wanna say
1 liketerk came with his brother and his brother became friends with star swirl and Scorpian told Celestia and Luna about terek
star swirl didn't know how big the princesses were. now when Scorpian told princesses they were big. and star swirl was there, so what in equestria ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
plot twice it wasnt celestia who helped her it was discord or luna....
0 likesi need to be quiet
Its because its a love poison maybe she used the power of love posion
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WO YouTube, get your life together!
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@Lynx from Shelter2 YAYYYYYYYYY IM FIRST
0 likesYep your first :D sad I’m not but good job!
0 likesThe prince and princess were probably cadence parents or relatives she wasn't really surprised when flurry heart was born what if she was born as a alicorn when she was shown as twilight's foalsitter she was an alicorn that always wondered me it could be another theory but it's pretty possible
0 likesI think that picture is chrysalis there's a theory that Chrysalis was the original Pony that had the love power
0 likesBased on cadence and twilight sparkles' last cadence is about 5 years older then twilight sparkle. And we know twilight sparkles age so we are 5 years to it then we have her age
0 likesI love your videos
0 likesThis your local random comment
14 likesE
IDW Comic #12 Has a bit more background on Cadence and Shining Armor's pasts
0 likesOk so I have heard about two same type of ponies so can two different types of ponies love each other?
0 likesThe king dom fell kinda like the cystal empire-
0 likesI mean princess cadence could be the daughter of the alicorn in the story it could be possible
0 likesSo I think the old queen of crystal empire is her and after the kingdom fall,you know who king came
0 likesOmg the prince is most likely Sombra just think about it it all makes so much more sense now Sombra is cadences ex lover and that's why he's so against her now
0 likesOk I haven’t seen the hole vid yet but I think she is the child of the tow in the potion story
1 likeWhen cadence was little her Mother got killed by sombra then proncesses find her and they took her with them then Princess celestia gived her wings becouse she was a daughter of Princess etc.
0 likesI refuse to believe there the same age as each other.
0 likesI think it was season 2 final? But Twilight sparkle went to the crystal Kingdom and was talking about her brother getting married when she told her friends that cadence use to babysit and she looked in her teens and a regular unicorn
0 likesI think she was the princess of love and after her old boyfriend from the story well actually I think he was evil and he put that spell care didn’t even care about the kingdom
0 likesmaybe Cadance was that princess and since she wasn't doing her job as a princess some pony broke the spell and Cadance fell in love with shinny armor and the rest of the story
0 likesSawtooth: Did she ever get that hoofucure, these are the questions that keep me up at night!?
2 likesMe: ummmmm, sure.
it took me years to find out the red horse had its name as bigmac like the burger XD
0 likesI think it is her because it look’s just like her
1 likeI think Cadence is the daughter of the two ponies who drank the potion..
0 likesHey can you make some more void of the princess .
0 likesI don't think the princess is Cadence because the the princess was the same age as Cadence when she married Shining armor it doesn't add up
0 likesThe question is what happened to the prince and if she was that pony did the spell affect her cutie mark
0 likesNgl I always thought the pony in the book looked like cadence when I watched it at first. :,>
0 likesSawtooth I think I know who that princess is from hearts and hooves day maybe it is candence mom
0 likesI dont think so.... Cadance would be probably be a bit older than a teen when she started foal sitting twilight. So it wouldn't make sense to think she ruled a kingdom at such a young age. I mean, look at Celestia! Plus, if this is true, it gives more questions like, What kingdom did she rule? Where? Who was the other pony? Thats what I think.
0 likesI think that is cadence in the book I think it really is cadence
0 likesPlease tell us about princess celestia's past
0 likesI think that her kingdom fell and then king Sombra came
0 likesWhat if cadence is the daughter of the couple
0 likes0:43 Cadance wasn't Twilight 's baby sitter she was her foal sitter
0 likesI think that it's cadences mom is the pony princess story and the love spell came out with cadence so what I'm saying is that cadences mom is that princess in the story and the prince is her dad
0 likesCheck out the crystal heart spell song
0 likesOkay I know I am late with watching this video but what if cadence was the princes and the minced on that fell was the Cristal empire and that is why She rules the empire again
0 likesprincess Cadance is not a princess of the crystal empire the real princess there was the princess amori that the shadow king killed
0 likesCadence was a pegusus that got turned into an alicorn by celestia
0 likesUm I am confused how did candace even become an alicorn ???
0 likesCadence is too young for that because that was about 100 years ago but she was just like 14 or 15 years old
0 likesI think it was Cadencess mother not Cadence herself
0 likesMaybe that candence is not make love but can fix problems in love as the two pony fighting and candence just fixed the problem with a strong emotion love
0 likesAhh the famous sentence“or was it”
0 likesI think that cadence could be a child of princess and prince.
0 likesSawtooth you watch out for princess twilight.
0 likesActually that prince and princess can't be Princess Cadance or her parents because her mother is Princess Amore and she is a unicorn not an alicorn.
0 likesChrysalis loves your videos sawtooth.
0 likesyah me too maybe those too were her parents and when the baby was born later when their kingdoms feel they both died and cadence grew up with a hard life as he said.
0 likesThat thumbnail of s the cutest photoshop I’ve ever seen!
0 likesHey this actually dose not lead to a dead end so I guess she can be the bc the princess has wings and a horn so dose Cadence and someone must have saved her or she ran away...
1 likeBruh read the crystal spell book and you will learn how she become a Allicorn ;-;
0 likesOr maybe Cadance is the prince and princess’s daughter!
0 likesI don’t think that cadence is the princess 👑 in the book but the book princess is her mummy so celesta save cadence because her parents were unable to look after her. That would be a good story for her and maybe give her a reason to try and her love 🤔
0 likesPrincess cadance is so cute
0 likes0:46 Wait- She was already a alicorn?
0 likesCandences mother is not an alicorn she is unicorn her name is princess Amore .
0 likesVery helpful together on princess he does
0 likesI think crystal empire was the kingdom kingdom of cadence
0 likesOr, it could be the prince and princess were her parents
0 likesI think well Cadence was born alicorn cause well, in the book the mare has a horn and wings and in the thing were the two horses are fighting Cadence has wings and a horn so I think she was born alicorn
0 likeswhen cadance and twilight meet: sunshine sunshine lady bug's awake clap your hooves and do a little shake.
0 likesPinkie promise: cross my heart and hope to fly stick a cupcake in my eye.
Go princesses.
0 likesAnd his prince look like Big Mac or blueblood trouble Shoes 👞 and amazing 🤩 do more do more
1 likeIt can't be her because she doesn't look like her
0 likesIt can be any alicorn we don't know
princess cadence had a mom but she fell of a cliff .
0 likesI love this video and I love cadence 😍🥰😚😘🤩
0 likesI FINALLY FOUND OUT WHO THIS ISSSS
1 likeBut the pony in the book was some sort of adult and Cadence was still a child when she babysat twilight
0 likesCadence is adopted by two pony when she was little she save someone that is not loved she that turn evil and she got her cutie mark and c gave her wings
0 likesI thought she was luna’s kid…. Don’t ask my logic..
0 likesWait wait wait hold up if that was her and she survived that long and barley aged then wouldn’t flurryheart be alive during the new movie of mlp a new gene?
0 likesOr it was cadence's mother and an earth pony.
0 likesIt was Cadence s mother.
0 likesIn the vid we saw that there's there like crystal ponys sooo IS SHE THE CRYSTAL QUEEN?!?
0 likesMaybe they are the parents of Cadence
0 likesYou know I'm still courius what happened to A.J. parents. Because we know Who they are, but we never actually where are they or what happened to them.
0 likesI hope you will answer my comment😊
So the only thing I can imagine was a lot of the players
0 likesHmm I believe your theory maybe Luna, Cadence, and Celestia are friends
0 likesI think the alicorn princess is cadence's mom and the prince is her father, now the potion affected cadences and blah blah
1 likeI heard Werid noises in shining armors rooms especially when cadence came over..
0 likesMaybe the love are cadences parents
0 likesmaybe the Alicorn in the story is her mom
0 likesShe was look like royalty.
0 likesThe prisoners of the Alicorn I think she'd Roca potion a noun or a pronoun a pony and she like turn powerful and then every time when she gets a hard to anyone was yelling and fighting they can control
0 likesyes, she is!
0 likesYou should so make your next video about to the prince is in the love potion
0 likesI was also SUS of Cadens
0 likesI don’t know . I think she is , but I am wondering that who is the prince without the HORN ??
0 likesYes. She. Is. From. The. Book
0 likesI love your vids
0 likesHer mum is beautiful
0 likesPrincess Candace is princess celestia’s niece
0 likesSawtooth you love potions.
0 likesI am pretty sure that cadence is celestias niece and she isn't lunas daughter so they must have another sibling !!!
0 likesI really think it’s Cadance,s mom
0 likesher kingdom fell, it fell in to the hands of.... SOMBRA???
0 likesCandence is the daughter of princess Amore-the frist princess of crystalem pieer
0 likesCan anyone tell me why ppl say cadence is luna and celestias neice?
0 likesI was thinking, and i got the idea of instead of caidence isnt the alicirn but ita her mom and the male pony is her dad and thats how she had the power of love bc of the live potion
0 likesThey also could be her parents idk why I think that but
0 likesCadence: Ultimate Mary Sue
0 likesWhy is this just coming up?
I don't know if you already theoriesed the fact that in human world Sci Twilight has wings but when she, sunset and rainbow went trought the portal she was unicorn. But if you didn't it would be fun mystery to theoriese
0 likesCadence is in book and they two and shining armour is in book
0 likesBut wasn’t cadence like a teen/pre teen when she babysitted twilight?? And if it was long ago I don’t think cadence would even be born?? Unless alicorns somehow grow less??
0 likesDidn't they say that Twilight's brother is older than her?
0 likesDid Canton's heatens have a mom maybe it's of that book had that picture of the mom
0 likesi mean…its a my little pony episode in my opinion they would never make them go deeper into the argument-
1 likeActually I don't think so 😸 but I have a more question who is cadence I mean who is her family or Celeste family
0 likesMabye the prince could be king sombra?!
0 likesI think you are right because we do not know her back story
0 likesMy sis says: I think she was a pegasus when she was little.
0 likesShe had wings before she got her horn
0 likesthere's a video that tells cadance's past just search on youtube or find it the hard way and wach a video with every pony being a baby
0 likesI think Elkhorn is her mom and dad
1 likeYou know the very start of the vid theres the princesses who is sitting in their chairs wich episode was that!
0 likesand cadence was a pegasi and then celestia gave her a horn
0 likesНе знаю как вы, но мне кажется что Каденс связана с этим днем. Я не говорю про то, что та принцесса это Каденс, я думаю, что это дальний родственник или её сестра.
0 likesХотя ладно, бред, твоя теория лучше и интереснее
Maybe the alicorn in the picture is chrysalis
0 likesI also think is her daughter!
0 likesIt said a long time ago.by that time cadance was a foul or wasn't even born!the theory is wrong
0 likesWhat if that princess is queen crysleys? She has a connection with love too and in the mirror world she is the princess of love .since there opposite alternate universe what if she was the right full crystal princess. Her name is similar to crystal too,her fallen kingdom might be crystal empire and the prince could be king shombra and his horn could be an outcome of some potion since it's different from other unicorn horns and so might be the existence of changlings , maybe they went crazy and corrupted because of the love potion, we saw other alicorns become corrupted too and cadence could be their daughter and they even forget about them selves ,who they really were ,cause that potion makes them forget about their duties ,maybe it's a effect of it not wearing off for a long time?
0 likesIf it is true what kingdom fell under her rule?
0 likesAm I the only person who wants to know what his age is
0 likesMaybe Kayden’s give the potion to the boy Pony?? Maybe
0 likesPrincess Luna's my favorite why is she so cute with that chocolate smoothie that she's drinking with a cute piggy piggy eyes
0 likesHey the only thing the princess can be is maybe Cadance's mother cus Cadance was too small to be in love or to do any Royal duties.
0 likesThat thumbnail from Babs Seed lol
1 likeDUDE THATS HER PARENT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!!!BECAUSE OF THAT POTION THEY FORGOT THEIR DUTYS AND THE KINGDOM FELL INTO THE HANDS OF KING SOMBRA!!
0 likesMaybe Cadence is there daughter?
0 likesWasn't cadence a Pegasus????
0 likesI think cadence is their daughter because if she was that Alicorn she would be dead or very very very old and plus queen celestia was probably a baby or wasn't even born when that event occurred
0 likesinstead of her being the princess in the book, she could of been the child of those 2 in the book? (idea from another comment) her parents love potion made her have the love power. ?
0 likesno it can't be.cadence is not the princess in the story because His kingdom was full of joy when she marry to princess Twilight's Brother.she's kingdom Stays the same nothing changed
0 likesNhaa, I think not. Because the princess of the book is more older than Candence. And the book is officially, isn't? I think the history of Candence It is not so crafted, but this is With the Creator of the history of my little pony.
0 likesdId ShE eVeR gEt ThE hOoFiCuRe!!!???
0 likes-Sawtooth Waves 2021
I can’t become a patron but I will soon promise
0 likesI think syes the dauter of the 2 poneis thats how she got her magic from the love pocein .
0 likesWhy dose alicorns have different wings than pegasus. When twightlight became an alicorn her wings were bigger than flutter shys and rainbow dash!
0 likesIt sounds like it's the opposite of a changeling
0 likesNo I think that’s cadence’s mom
0 likesMaybe that was chrysalis she is feeding on love
0 likesMe going back five seconds every time the video starts What I hear: of all of all of all of all of all of all of all of all of all
0 likesI think this was cadences parents tho
1 likeBut who is the prince?
0 likesOr it was the Daughter of them
0 likesYea but twilights brother has a horn but the paper didn’t have a pony with a horn or am I confused
0 likesdonut joe looks like the male prince
0 likesOk I have a theory ,ok so princess luna and clesstia is older than princess caidnce so hearts and hooves day is not the same age as caidnce so there not related there’s a Scene when caidnce is a kid and and clesstia makes her a princess beacause she casted a love spellb and i think clesstia might have raised caidnce because her parents died And yea
1 likeI think that cadence is Mom doesn't have her alicorn wings or horn anymore she could have passed away years ago
0 likeswho are cadences parents?
0 likesPlzzzzz can you do a video on king sombra i really liked the videos about him
0 likesThat alicorn princess is cadense mom
0 likesNo it couldn't have been her because that looks like a full grown adult and that would have made her like very young back then which means if she's connected to that story she must be the daughter of the two also didn't princess celestia make her an alicorn?
0 likesWate wate remember when you were finding out the story of flurry hart ? Maby those are her real parents or dawn's real parent hows knows thou.
0 likesSHE IS YOUNG!!!
0 likesCadence is on the book 📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖📖
0 likes5:45 why does sawtooth sound.... Mad?
0 likesUmm I have a question why is cadence's cutie mark the crystal heart and why can she make crystals her cutie mark doesn't make sense
0 likesWhat if that alicorn is cadences mother?
0 likescadence was very nice before
0 likesUnrelated but instead of a hooficure it should be called a mareicure
0 likesBut whos twilights mom?
1 likeMaybe the prince is king sombra
1 likeNoooo it's a potion right then maybe the prince made it because he's a pony, but if he doesn't have a horn, maybe he made the ingredients 😒 ugh
0 likesThis is beautiful and sad but also mystirios
0 likesEVEN SHE UDES HER MAGIC IN HER ENGAGMENT
0 likesNOPE she is perticulely not her the prensses frome harts and hoves Stan
1 likebecause in one of your videos you said
cadence wasn't enough to have been her and you referd her to her mother and father hum was innuf to bring her into the world _ ...
It's not cadens but it is her mom
1 likeWhat if that princess in the book is her mother 🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨
0 likeswhat if the prince was brozes
1 likeLike the princess cadence and the prince is like shining armor so maybe that book is from cadences magic right
0 likesShe is on the time mutch younger
0 likeshere are some more video ideas what about you talk about what happened to applejacks parents
0 likeshey i think i know listion firstly hat looks like dounut joe and secondly maybe its someone else or her alicorns live for a long time celestia looked the same for a 1000 years and luna her hair became like mist but we should be detectives and inbestive the murder of the posion.
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the story also episode also said if they don't look at each other for 1 hour the spell will be off and after sunset it is permenent
0 likesWhat about the Prince did we see him it the story?
0 likesHow you manage to play detective each time that I will never know
0 likesyou are like detective my little pony and Boom! Childhood ruined.
EDIT-I MEAN IT AS A COMPLIMENT
Princesses in the start: 😐
1 likeI know tis theory is a year ago but I dont think this will work. If you look at twilights flashback w her as her babysitter, you can see the cadance was still quite young and not grown up, meaning her age cant be that far from twilight's which means she isnt as old as you thought she was(as old as the love potion) but this only makes sense if ponies age the same way as humans do but they dont. That doesnt change the fact that she was still young tho
0 likesI think Cadence is not that well
0 likesCan u do pricess luna and celestea past
0 likesWow what a good theory sawtooth waves
0 likesOr maybe that princess was her mom and Celestia saved her but she disappeared So did the stallion and Cadence was born right before her parents disappeared and the princess saved her but never found her parents maybe that's it?
0 likesshe was twilight's baby sister before she got her cutiey mark
0 likesNo what if that was her mother.
0 likesMaybe she was her mom
1 likePrinces = horses others = ponies
0 likesAnd She was made Of pink Glass !
0 likesIt could be a great great great great grandma
0 likesI guess those are cadence's parents
0 likesYES she is
0 likesPinkie Pie: Ooh, brainstorm!
0 likesSathwooth CADENCE WAS BORN AS A PEGUSI AND TURNED INTO A ALICORN BY PRINCESS CELESTIA!
0 likesWhy did the prince give the princess the potion
0 likesI think that is the mom of cadence
0 likesI love twilight I love there so they saw awesome my favourite twilight twilight is the best friends ever I was🥰🥰🥰
0 likesHow do you come up with all these🤣🤣
0 likesYes katten is the love pony
0 likesWhat about one pinkie pie said a unicorn and a pack of this wonderful heart was born
0 likesCan u make an vid abt who is the strobgest alcorn or who is the strongest pony plsssssss 🥺🥺🥺🥺
0 likesCadance's empire fell bc of king zambra
0 likesCan you please make a one episode about pinky pie
0 likesCadences! No she will never
0 likesOk I know everything about her
0 likesThat's not true and one of them My Little pony friendship is magic episodes they show that cadence babysitted Twilight sparkle and that she was a unicorn at the time and she was in her teens so she couldn't have been related or had contact with a princess Celestia and princess Luna and how she became a princess while I think it's because the heart Crystal accepted her? I'm not really sure how she became an alicorn to be honest but if we go by the theory that they have to do something Noble to get it at least in princess Celestia and princess Luna's view then probably saving the crystal or restoring the Crystal's power got her to be alicorn
0 likesНичё не понимаю, но мне нравятся твои теории
0 likesCrazy idea... what if SOMBRA. Your seeing correctly. Sombra. Was the one who cast a spell on CADENCE to become KING! just a theory..
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Or cadences mom, who knows.
0 likesI think that to that she was affected by the potion in the princess that’s why she is the daughter
0 likeshttps://www.youtube.com/hashtag/mlpsong
0 likesThis is Princess Cadence's backstory.
I thought that was her mom
0 likesNo I think it is her mother
0 likesI thought of her parents and nor her as that princess
0 likesCadence had a family mom dad
0 likesBut i think that her mother and father wer the ho where in the spell sallestea free them and she came
Numbers Princess Celestia she put her sister in the middle because she wanted a lot of tension
0 likeswhat if it was ms.sun princess when she was little
0 likesIt can be her mom
0 likesMay be she is the daughter of them
0 likesMaybe she is the one from the book but.... what about her parents? Maybe they are from the book. Maybe they use the potion and their kingdom crushed and they sent cadence to eqestria. But what if the book is not right maybe they where just normal ponies and they didn't do their tasks so they see their daughter cadence was born they haven't have enought for her so they sent her to celestia and celestia make her alicorn?
0 likesOh she was a alicorn then mybad I didn't see the wings
0 likesCan you do what happend to applejacks parents
1 like0:10 XD I have the whole book series besides that one
0 likesP.S. I have only read 2 :/
But like a I think that that uni could've been a diff of all of the unis that were like royal?
0 likesI’m just saying this and I don’t even know if you’re going to say this but what if Princess cadence is there a kid?!
0 likesI think cadence is that alicorn
0 likesWait a minute if big Mac is married to sugar belle so what about cheerlie
0 likesWhat about canaan's Mom
1 likeAnd she is a unicorn not alicorn
1 like0:11 cute face
0 likesNope. That's not Cadence.
0 likesActually Cadence is paqueas and princess celestia given her a horn that ,s why she is Alicorn ?
0 likesI searched her age and I didn’t read the whole thing I just searched the thing for the age but I’m just paste it here so you can read it’ll be in the replies cause I tried to do it but smthn happened so read it if you want
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“That would mean that Tirek would have known about Cadence, which would presumably mean that Cadence was an Ali corn princess at the time that Celestia and Luna defeated Tirek i.e. before Luna's attempted coup against Celestia. This would mean that Cadence is over a thousand years old”
0 likesDoes princess amore is Candace mother? The first crystal Princess? The ruler of crystal empire before tge rise of king sombra🤔🤔
0 likesHer age is 1000 or more
0 likesI just wanna know who that man is
0 likesNo prince and the princess had a kid and that was cadence probably that’s just my guess
0 likesShe was not the pony that was in that piece of paper because she looked like a teen when she babysat twilight
0 likesWell if princess cadanaes was the sister of twilight sparkle maybe they’re mom send them to defreant places so they can study or make ther own bissnes
0 likescadence maybe born an alicorn
0 likesBut i love it
1 likePlease do a face Reveal
0 likesBut no one ever saw an earth pony prince
0 likes👑🦄🌈
0 likesBut yeaaahh princess cadence does look like the princess
0 likesActually no, your theory is proven wrong because when she is casting the love spell from her horn she was so small. She look like maybe she was 14 yrs old. No way she was old enough to fall in love. And why would a prince love a 14 yr old? Like she couldn’t be older then a teenager gping based of her size.
0 likesLook at cadence and look at the alicorn in the book
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Hairstyle
0 likesngl u use inspiration a lot
0 likesSounds about wright about cadence
0 likesCadence is actually that one inside the horoscope book her babysitter on the kingdom you know princess cadence is run for the kingdom is a God baby so Crystal Empire Jen got a baby got destroyed because princess because at Eagle Way villain bring the crystal empire to be all of the Crystal ponies to be not but never did a crystal members and then dad then the eagle ones not get away with this and then twilight and her friends
0 likesI don't think that its candecen in that story I think that it is queen crystals because if you think of it how did she became queen in the frist place they never telled else.
0 likesWrong princess cadence is not the Alcorn drink the magical potion with the prince
0 likesFlash my mind is in Coney
0 likesMaybe she is the lost crystal princess explains that crystal pony that said behold the crystal princess
0 likesI think cadence is the prince and princesses daughter not the princess the daughter of the princess
0 likesIf shining armor don’t have a horn
0 likesNo I don’t Think so because then she would be bigger when she babysits Twilight but the to pony’s that fall in love with that potion made is Kayden’s mom and dad
1 likeSame.though cadence is not guilty or its a changeling
0 likesSawtooth you have a 4 leaf clover
1 likeBut cadence is the child of those two ponies
0 likesall the princesses are alicorns
0 likesWhen did she get her wings cuz she looks sorta young then
0 likes1:10 what part is it?
0 likesAnd also very funny if it QUEEN CHRSAILIS WAS RELATED TO CADENCE
0 likesIs occellus your mother?
0 likes!theory! The Student Sixs May be Letting a new magic be made the magic of Connection and the Student Sixs May soon be „connecting“ all Spieces in the my Little Pony universe
0 likesIdk this aint connected but THEORY
Before she was a alicorn she was a peguases I have no clue how to spell
0 likesbut twilight doesnt have a cutie mark yet-
0 likes0:41 friend's forever
0 likesYou’re rude Being rude to cadence
0 likesShe is there niece so the thumbnail is wrong
0 likesA pony that has wings and a horn like song the pony hedgehog
0 likesMe that armor that means shining armor the one that they didn’t forget her forever that was thinking in my brain now?
0 likes💙🌜🌞⭐
0 likesI think her mother is princess amore is her mother and ligeria is her grandmother
0 likes💖💕💓💗💙💚
1 likeThe thumbnail looks familiar
0 likesI wish i could be in your vid bc i think i have a desighn for me as a unicorn or pony
0 likesI think that cadincI is a the Love Princess is Daughter
0 likesI think it’s her mom
0 likesMaybe that use to be her mother 😧😧
0 likesno she is not she was to young to love someone that picture is someone else then cadance
0 likesThats a Good theory.
0 likesCadence was alicorn while she was babysitting Twlight ????????
0 likesWeird fact: the views for this vid is 666K
0 likesI think those are her perants
1 likeBut twilight bigger than the recipe
0 likesor they are cadences parents
0 likesGus te amo mucho 💓 te amo mucho más que hallas a su suegra
1 liketbh some of this guys theories are such a stretch lmao
0 likesI think cadence is Not the Princess
0 likesThere should be a sonic the hedgehog pony
0 likesMy name is cadence and my birthday is march 13
1 likeI don't know if caedes is the princes in the book but she looks pretty
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Yeah I guess so
0 likesYes I think she is
0 likesI like prinsees Selassiea a lot
0 likesCadence is her sister in law
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And adoptive niece of Celestia
1 likeExcuse me cadance is 40yrs old
0 likesIs there a season 10 in my little pony
0 likesMonica y ponerle animes ahí si ya estamos Roger Period
0 likesOld princess of love?
0 likesI think cadence was a the kid and her parents got poison
0 likessawtooth i thought cadence was a pegasi?
0 likes💜💛💜💜💜
0 likesWell in a flashback
0 likesWait post the video look at Caden's she is born a alicorn? Like flurry heart???!! What?!!
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No, she was born a pegasus.
1 likePrincess Cadence ,Luna,Celestia and Twilight isent the only alacorn the royal gards are also alicorns
0 likesYOU DO 'T HAVE HANDS BUT YOU STILL CAN PRESS
0 likescadence isn't that princess
0 likesuhmm idk but i think cadence is the daughter of the princess and prince but and again its just my thought
0 likescadence is an aileron as she was twilight babysitter
0 likesor maybe that price and princess is cadance mother and father
0 likesThat’s so sad
0 likesCan you do a face reaveal
0 likesCadence
0 likesLuna
Celestia
Twilight
Princess princess princess!!!!!!!!!!!!
Casance can be hers dotter
0 likesYes that's her(ᵔᴥᵔ
0 likesi think she is the alicorn
0 likesARE YOU A CHANGLING!?
0 likesI think it was her parents because those
0 likespeople seemed older than Candace
And she didn't know if it happened
to her shewouldn't do it to other ponys
HAPPY ST.PACKTRICKS DAY
1 likeNo the love prince and princess maybe had a baby and that baby was cadence :7
0 likesI think is luna not ketains the love story Princess is luna 🦄
0 likesIt,s cadece she was the pony who did it
0 likesI love your Rainbow Dash in Equestria
0 likesi think thats her mother
0 likesit looks like the sparkle?
0 likesIs pharynx your father?
0 likesyes it's Kayden
0 likesActually princess cadence is spread love everywhere she goes actually I agree but I think princess Alessia is the more good than princess cadence because you have the power to raise of the sun and I don’t know what the Kilmer considered totally want to learn to spell book from hot dogs they from twilight show make a big Mac a dirty T-shirt will be love that’s why I think it’s crazy to me the so
0 likesWhen did it happen do you know cadence anima she loves spell
0 likesPor fa en español
0 likes😮👍
0 likesI think is shining armor and cadence
0 likesI think cadance is the alicorn princess
0 likesSpeacking of alicorns why did you say shinning armor was the first ever
0 likesMale alicorn?? Boii how about king sombra yes i saw that vid not gonna lie.
Didn’t mean to do any of it because she is she didn’t have a bell I know it was like a young unicorn and I I saw the good person and I never seen cadence married with a person who is it like that because there is no such thing as cadence doing something like that I know this whole is more than the 🌎 And I am also know it’s a married of a pony named shining armor who is the brother of twilight sparkle I know it’s clear if it is she is she was a babysitter of twilight cadence yes she was clear to see that it’s kind of sounds kind of clear if you ask me because both of them really have to each others eyes they were catching each other and cadence was a babysitter in shining armor had a crush that’s why you must try to take more in fact it’s not him it’s not possible she would do something like that I’m sure princess Celestia will talk to her and she could giveScheelbecause she’s a princess of love doesn’t mean she’s she may cast a spell doesn’t mean she’s been in one in the book I know she’s a baby
0 likesWhat about the huff o’ c u r e. >:c
0 likesIS. THE. PRINCESS. OF. LOVE. IS. OLDER. THEN. PRINCESS. OF. SUN. AND. MOON
0 likesMaybe she's the kid??
0 likesI think that alicorn is princess cadence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesIT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cadace was traping twilit sprikle
0 likes👍
1 likeYou are right
0 likesMaybe that princess is cadance mom because she doesnt like her
1 like*How? Are? You? Doing? This? *
0 likesYeah I think she is the alocorn princess
0 likesI think that's princess Cadence father or grandfather
0 likesWait the pic has a wings/wings
0 likesWait YouTube says it’s been 1 week but it has been three months in my time zone sawtooth isn’t uploading
0 likesPls react to the G5 MLP
0 likeswhat that sounds right to me can you do a vid where you can show Us were did night mar moon go when she left.....????
0 likesThis theory I don't agree because the my little pony time line Is so confusing
0 likesYes she is I know
0 likesCadence is wearing she was born in Alcorn
0 likesWhat's mystery worthy is this said this was 2-3 week ago...
0 likesthat is cadance the alicorn i think so
0 likeslove is a elament of hormany without love no friendship in enywhere
0 likesI also say that it is true in some video or i think i watched your video along time so i thing this is true tge story is true
0 likesOr cadence is there a daughter of the princess and Prince
0 likesI love sawtooth and I hate the briny notion 🥰😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
0 likesWait why are you have a jade plant
0 likesThat that man was I’m not Stanyan was I think shining armour
0 likesI know sunsets element it’s hope
0 likesWOW you are very good
0 likesTwilight sparkle said that she babysat her so I think that she can’t babysit in twilight sparkle so I hope you agree with me it’s Vivian again
0 likesShe is pony princess
0 likesWoah really smart
0 likesOmg!!!!
0 likesi think the book is princess cadance with a guy with no horn
0 likesAnd they tell me this is a kids show facepalm
0 likesILOVE YOU 💕💕💕💖💖
0 likesHi I'm new to the channel
0 likesThe thumbnail ................
0 likesWow
0 likesI mean he had soled avdence
0 likesThis may be truw bc how is she an alicorn when she is a child?
0 likesi literally hate cadence so much
0 likesThis is a bad theory and her power doesn’t work like that!
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I think she is. And hi I'm new 👋
0 likesYep it's kaden
0 likesthats disturbing asf tbh
1 likeI don't think that she is the alicorn in that story because we're would she have gotten her magic from because but what if she was there daghter
0 likesI love you so damn
0 likesDUDE THERE WAS A SONG
0 likesRemember me my name is Jolene
0 likesWronge. There's backstory to Cadance.
0 likesNo i think that prinsess
0 likess that got meried is Princess cadances mom
This was posted on My bday 💀
0 likesShe is not it was her mom
0 likesOr he’s jus right
0 likesMaybe at her mom
0 likesCuándo hagan una planta antes de Hernán Santiago
0 likesi think viola is right
0 likesOk the princes Cadance is de ali corn is in the book
0 likesThe red pony said staring up discord
0 likesPrincess in the book is
1 likeYes I things that is the elecon princess but if she would be then she should be in the book where the prince was then it should be showing almost so I think princess Cadence is not the princess in that book
0 likeswell that is kinda true
0 likesThis is a broadly right
1 likeIt is her parents it dose not look like her
0 likesCool
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesMabey that prinsses and Prince where cadence parents
0 likesDude cadence didn't have horns that is being shown in the book she was a pagasus
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@maci keeter weird I really don't understand but It can't be possible that the book would be connected cause in the EP where those 3 make the love potion and they red the book further after giving it there was a cure to it separating the 2 love birds and the cadances spell has no cure
0 likes😍😍😍😍😎😎😎😍
0 likesWhat if the prins is codes is dad
0 likesFfffddrgtffwfdde❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🤍❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤💖❤❤❤❤❤
0 likesGrandmother and mother
0 likesIt can dy cadences mother to
0 likesWhoever you are I watch this video and people this is how many people have to give in you guys thumbs up but I just need it more 14
0 likesIt's celisty
0 likesNo princess Cadence is not get princess because the princess and the picture and princess Cadence hairstyle is different. See the hairstyle before princess Cadence horn and The Princess in the picture hairstyle before the horn
0 likesI think the alicorn was not cadence.,But if the movie never show cadence parents then....... why is the alicorn is difrent i think.
1 likeits just spelled diffrent
0 likes😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
1 likeHere's how I know it😎 I don't know!?
0 likesYeah i agree to Voila
0 likesHow did I get here
0 likes😭😢
0 likesSooo you didn't read the comics about collage n stuff?
0 likesIt’s probably both of them it’s probably princess cadence that put up the spell no one knows her no not your backstory I mean it is my little pony it’s all about the twilight sparkle and her friends no one cares about you back stories of the other characters
0 likesO way she sweet
0 likesI am from da future trust me
0 likesU are infront of me U-U
0 likesI think that is true
0 likesA clestia eamais linda🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄
1 likewhoa
0 likesPlease send it in hindi
0 likesYour so smart
0 likesGod saves you in Jesus, trust Him! He died to take your punishment and rose in His Glory and now we can live through Him, don’t trust yourself. Repent and trust Him love, let the Holy Spirit in, in Jesus mighty name amen
1 likeWait does sawtooth time travll?? i mean its the 26th today not even close to march????
0 likessound like the pharaoh akhenta
0 likesThere manes are different
0 likesMe who didn't really lukr cadance
0 likes💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
0 likesI just like that video
0 likesOn it is her mom
1 likeWhere the next episode
0 likescan you make a videdo from prinses amore pllllllsssssssssssssssss
0 likesIf her magic was a fake then why is she an à la corn in the first place isn't it for doing a good deed forcing love it's not good neither is forcing love to magic am I right
0 likes0:03
0 likesI think she is
0 likesThat's not true princess carrots does it leave
0 likesGold experience requiem sh*t
0 likesOmg in new to utube I only was allowed utube kids so my mum just got downloaded this
0 likesNO That is not is Cadance ‘s
0 likesTha5s kinda sketchy 😬
0 likesWhat if cadinc knows crisaliss from lobg ag8 befor the hive ö sorry bad grammmer
0 likesWe have the show
0 likesHow do you know
0 likesTheirs a video but to find it watch more My little pony more often
0 likesLllllllllllllllllllllllllllll ilovu😍😘
0 likesumm she was a pegasus
0 likes🦄q.I think it's a good ?I'm Ab oh preppy of poi
0 likesI this princess cadence is not her it’s her daughter
0 likesehem candance is not wierd ...
0 likesShe is 10,000
0 likesi have thet book
0 likesthat isn't the right story
0 likesOmg
0 likesOmg
0 likesthis is the stupidest theory- No offence but when Cadence did the spell she was a filly....older then Twilight but still.....And in the story how the Alicorn Princess looks grown well ofc she's grown up since a prince was in love with her....So how can a filly be the ruler of an entire Kingdom?! Ofc there's a possibility that the story was years later but before the wedding. This is more fitting but there are some issue I imagine.
0 likesNo it’s not cadence
0 likesSawtooth is a gaymer.
0 likesI am Princess cadance
0 likesI
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I think that page is not Princess Cadence
0 likes🐞🐞🐞🐞🐞🐞🐞🐞🐞🐞🐞🐞🐞🐞
1 likeHow do you do?
0 likesI think yes
0 likesYessss
0 likesI like washing my little pony video s a lot
0 likesHow😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
0 likesNoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
0 likes💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝
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😍😍😍😍😍
0 likesA don:
0 likesI love you
0 likesI think it's Cadance,s😯😯😯😯😒
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣??????????
0 likes我聽不懂你們在說什麼可以出中文版的更好喔。
0 likesIs Katie she is next-door with big Mac big Mac and together
1 likeI think that she is the same as i
0 likesBut how will I play games 🎮 o right I have a horn I can use my magic to do it
0 likeskissing in bed
0 likesThat sus
0 likes;O
0 likesIt may be right
1 likeHmmmm......... Maybye??😅
0 likesHo is the real parents of towletsprilk
0 likesIf I wher a pony I will tern in to sonic . Exe pony the DEMON VERSION OF SONIC PONY
0 likesmore lıke a LOVE proplem
0 likesHahahahaha
0 likesMaybe? 🤔
0 likesDud your ruining the video
0 likesYour cutie mark is not good
0 likesNo her kingdom did not fall
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Because she was a little foal but the princess was already a mare
0 likesAre you even a grown up person? Cuz no boy and teenager watch mlp
0 likesTop 🔝 secret is
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Cadence is the first alicorn
1 likeYou mean knock off version of baby seed
0 likesOh yeah 👍👍
0 likesI think so
0 likesYo no entiendo nada deesto que dira😭😭😭😭😭
0 likesHallo maby kadend is der seckret baby LOL 🥺
0 likesE só um desenho meu deus 😡😡😡😡
0 likesDo u have a lot of time on ur hand or something?
0 likes👧🏻👧🏻
0 likesYes ti is
0 likesMmmmdomno?
0 likesI don't understand what he is saying he is saying too fast
0 likesI think she is🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
0 likesNot that!
0 likesYou its my littly pony you me R.I.P ok
0 likesEu nem entendi o que que tu disse tá tudo em inglês não consigo entender direito
0 likesYa ya sure i dont bealive you anyhow :P
0 likesSawtooth waves I am Iyaneh hirjikaka.
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Hi again.
0 likesYeah theorys
0 likesI just don’t understand it
0 likesTJiit is The besd
0 likesI am seeing her with whole new eyes and I love it. Thank you
1 likeAlthough I can see where you’re coming from, I personally favor the theory that perhaps the prince and princess in the story are Cadence’s parents. Maybe after they were under the influence of the spell they had her and somehow some of the magic in the potion was passed to her, making her able to do the magic/spell through her horn. It could also be that that would be part of her duty as the princess of love, because perhaps she also can undo the spell and therefore part of her duty might be to make sure that the potion isn’t used irresponsibly again. If her parents were under the effects of the potion while she grew up, I can only imagine that she was probably pretty neglected and maybe she wants to make sure nobody else feels that way. Idk, it’s just a thought, sorry if it’s messy.
0 likesI like the clover you’ve added! It looks really nice
0 likesIf your looking for more theories I have a mildly interesting one. Since everyone in equestria has a human counterpart. What happened with sunsets?
2 likesShe's a descendant of original Princess of the Crystal Empire. She also attended school with Shining Armor. It been said she turned hate magic spell into a love spell, and she gain her wings like that. The thing you should be asking is if Cadence was able to turn into alicorn cause she was related to alicorn and preformed world breaking magic or feat, does that mean Twilight has some princess in her family. Who knows, maybe Celestia is Twilight's great grandmother.
2 likesAll Allicorns seem to have a purpose that makes them alicorns, Celstia and Luna were supposed to raise the sun and moon, very critical to the pony world, indicated by their cutie marks. Twilight, is the embodiment of magic, and friendship magic, which is also in her cutie mark. Cadence's cutie mark is the crystal heart, she was always destined to take over the Crystal Empire. I'd say once it fell and sombra happened and all of that, Celestia and Luna started planning to find someone to take over that responsibility, and that was Cadence. Someone who had the natural love and kindness that embodies the very essence of the Crystal Heart, she was just destined for it.
1 likeOkay, so I have had the question for a damn while, and I need help answering it.
2 likesSo when ponies are babies, we have noticed that they have these lifeless eyes that only have a color and a white dot, but when it comes to flurry heart, she was born with those special more adult-like eyes. So my question is, how do these eyes even work? Can you all help me answer this, please!
Now that's something I never noticed, the princess in that story was an alicorn. In equestrian history, we only know of 2 alicorns before Cadence. Its true we don't know how old Cadence is but it is implied shes not that much older than Twilight and a comparable age to Shining. Maybe that leads open the possibility that the potion was used on a much younger Celestia or Luna? Maybe that is why the two never seem to find love because they were scarred by that experience. Or at least one of them was if it was Celestia while Luna was trapped in the moon.
0 likesIt certainly would not be the first time Celestial turned a personal tragedy into a festival. I.e nightmare night
Whoa. Mind. Blown. I'm not sure if everything about your theory is right, but there's no denying that Cadence's spell and the love potion are connected somehow. That animation is exactly the same. And the princess in the Hearts and Hooves Day story was AN ALICORN. I never caught that.
1 likeConsidering that Twilight grew to Celestia's height within the lifetimes of her friends, Cadence can't be that old. Even with taking into the consideration the fact that alicorn growth is based on magical capacity, Cadence can't be older than Twilight's parents. She is most likely to be only a few years older than Shining Armor.
0 likesI heard the story before.cadance was a pegases lost in a village with no parents then 2 earth pony’s took her in and raised her she made a lot of friends and shared love 💕 and got her cutie mark then a sorceress who wanted all the love ❤️ and made everybody feel worse and cadance stood up agienst the sorcerer named prisma.And prisma was kind to everybody then cadance was teleported to a strange place she was lost scared and confieused Celestia made her Alicorn!Celestia told cadance that she will rule one day
1 likeWell, we actually know that Cadence is pretty old- because Tirek knows who she is. When he escapes he knows that there are 3 alicorn princesses, which means she had to be an alicorn princess around ~1000 years ago when Tirek got locked up.
0 likesHere are something strange.
2 likesFirst, Cadence's name. Mi Amore Cadence? We don't know which is her real name. Maybe it's from Queen Crisalise, but anyway.
Also, her Cuty mark changed one time. From the shape with big heart, to the shape with big gold bottom place. We've never saw that kind of mistarry.
Last, her wings! Her wings' color is strange. the bottom is pink, and the tip is purple. But when Twilight and her were young, she had just pink wings!!! DDan DDan DDan....!
One more. Her horns and hight are grown up. Again DDAN DDAN DDAN!!!!
If we just saw her parents that would explain a lot!
1 likeHonestly think it's her parents. For one, how would Cadence have love-based powers as a "young" filly if she fell in love with someone via a potion as an adult? It's likely that it's her parents, with the effects of the spell manifesting as magical abilities in their child.
0 likesMakes you curious; who was the prince who gave Cadence the love potion?
0 likesI think the same way you do sawtooth! Also can you create a video explaining what happened to the creatures of equestria like the gem dogs or the green dragon. What could’ve happened to them?
0 likesThe prince and princess could also be Cadence’s parents. Because if they are, they would have had her when they were still under the influence of the love potion giving Cadence powers similar to the potion. And with the love potion in her system, she could possibly have a messed up view of love, eventually learning what love actually is with Shining Armor.
0 likesYou are aware that her FULL back story, including her courtship of Shining Armor as a youth, and how she became an alicorn. They are all in the comic series, and are canon as per Hasbro.
0 likesI still go with the theory from the book itself, she was born a pegasus, but sad that even her story have some loopholes such as her parents and how she knows the power of love by magic and even became an alicorn given by Celestia.
0 likesI like your clover. Very cute. :)
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tysm ^3^
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0 likesI think a long time ago before luna turned into nightmare moon , there was a problem in the Crystal empire .when sombra went to crystal empire to rule, the two sisters (celestia and luna) went to help and defeated sombra and banished him to the arctic
and met the ruler of the crystal empire Princess amore than something happened to her that's why celestia adopted cadence (princess Amore's daughter) and made her own niece and made her an alicorn princess and also made her the ruler of the crystal empire than luna tuned in nightmare moon and .........
I think this is cadence's past I'm not sure but maybe it is and you're theory was also great one of this could be cadence's true past but I am not sure I'm still thinking 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔???????????????????
For your explanation on why she was using the spell once it was used against her didn't all add up for me.
1 likeThey never specifically said what kingdom it was that fell and so far we have seen the ponies go everywhere.
And what would have happened in between the time of her being a babysitter and being assisted by princess Celestia.
If the kingdom fell what happened to the prince did he fall with his kingdom.
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I'm only a teen so I don't have the money to support you like how I want to like a patreon
1 likeI going to tell you a story, this story is the story that I think cadence had. Here it is: once upon a time, there was a little filly named cadence. This little filly wanted to explore the world. So one day she left her childhood home in canterlot, and started to explore eqestrea. One day she was In a forest, and a storm began! She was lost in the forest and couldn't get home! Luckily a pegasus was just finishing setting up the storm and was flying back to cloudstale and noticed cadence. He took cadence back to cloudstale and took care of her for the night. The next day the pegasus took cadence to princess celestia, he told celestia what he knew. Celestia took cadence in as her niece, after a few years of magic and a hole lot of love celestia made cadence an alicorn princess. And from then on cadence was known as the princess of love and the cristal princess. The end. That's what I think her backstory is.
0 likesI think the alicorn in the hearts and hooves day story is Princess Amore not Princess Cadence. Princess Amore was the former ruler of the Crystal Empire, that's where Cadence also got her name from.
1 likeCandence looks young so i think her parents were alicorns to look at it this way she is not suprised about flurry heart so i think it was her mom that was the victom and her dad that made it so she learned about the poison so she changed it to a spell as she grew up she thought using it was a bad idea so she didn’t use it anymore
0 likesCadence is apparently celestia’s niece.
0 likesIf you check Netflix and the description on the 1st wedding episode it’s going to say celestia’s niece
Omgosh the book I thought it looked like princess cadence and i was watching it back over and over again to try find out her backstory!!!
0 likesI don't think Princess mi'Amore Cadance retired as The Princess Of Love. It's her "lifestyle" princess's status, and this is what she was born for. If she's retired as a princess of love, it wasn't her official title. BTW, she's namely the princess of love, not of the Crystal Empire. That means, in my opinion, that Cadance's magic is designed to bring the love to ponies.
0 likesBUT let's look at her cutiemark... There's the Crystal Heart on her butt.... According to my opinion, Princess Cadance was born by someone who was a ruler of TCE, cause her cutiemark has a magic artifact from there, and it was there when she wasn't even a princess of TCE. What I think is that she also has the magic of love due to her... Parents? Maybe, Cadance was born by an alicorn, who was a previous ruler of TCE, and an alicorn (only by an alicorn or less possibly — by a unicorn), whose magic was also designed to bring love as well as Cadance's one. In future she got the ruler of TCE ONLY after she marries with Shining Armor, as perhaps Princess of Love was too young for it or as she needed a husband, who'd get the ruler, too. Or... We just haven't seen in mlp she was the ruler before that? I don't think so. Cadance had no time for being a baby sitter if she was.
Mmmmmaube, she got the rulership because of the fact that TCE was in the alicorn sisters's control as the rest of Equestria, but some factors made them leave this empire or they couldn't cope with something and decided to make her the ruler as it must have been or return her royal duties.
Hasbro has confirmed that Cadance was FOUND by the alicorn sisters. Where she could be found? Maybe amongst the North Crystal Desert? If so, why she was there? There were possibly that kingdom Sawtooth told about. Or TCE was even much larger before than it is for now (BTW, TCE is now a bit little for a kingdom, don't you think so?), but somewhen the rest parts was destroyed by something, OR have gotten a rest Equestria's part as a result of some political issues in TCE, OR that has other mysterious reasons...
Maybe that theory deserves its own video, doesn't it?
P. S.: I'm surely sorry if you kill 15—20 minutes reading it<3
Fun fact that nobody asked: Cadance was always a member of the royal family, and the niece of Celestia and Luna
0 likesI think Cadence is the alicorn from heart and hooves day.
1 likeSawtooth if you want a small vote you could do who's best creature ;D
2 likesShe might be a descendant of them and because of the potion it gave her similar powers just not as strong and if she was a descendant the what if the empire that fell was the Crystal Empire because it did fall and that could be because the ponys from the legend lost all focus on their duty's which could be correct, so king sombra was able to take over more easily, if you think about and with enough evidence the crystal empire could be the one that fell in the story... but that's just my theory.
0 likesCelestia also adopted Cadance
2 likesCadance is her adopted neice
I think it would make sense if Cadance was the child of the two ponies in the book...
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Maybe the reason why the crystal empire fell was bc of the love potion...
I always wondered what Princess Cadence's past was....and this was so awesome to know
2 likesI always thought the ponies in the story were her mother and father. It would make sense.
0 likesNow I’m going to tell you another story, it’s about cadence but not her specifically. It’s about her parents, here it is: once upon a time, there was a princess and a prince. The prince had some interest in the princess, so one day he made a love potion. He gave the potion, it was actually a love POISON! Break time. Ok, so you said that celestia could have saved them but I’m suggesting that celestia was not around at the time, I think it was way back when starsweral was around. I think also that the prince and princess were cadences grandparents. Back to the story, actually you know the rest from there!
0 likesWait I think I have a theory: What if the prince and the princess were Cadences parents and their kingdom was the Crystal Empire? Think about it the Crystal Empire fell and so did their kingdom and in the book it said Cadence was found in a forest so maybe a forest replaced the Crystal Empire why else would Cadence have a Crystal Heart on her cutie mark yes it was her destiny but maybe her being the parents of the rulers of the Crystal Empire would cause her to have that destiny. Thank you for taking time out of your day to read this!
0 likesMaybe Cadences parents? I’m not sure her mum was an alicorn, but it’s possible.
0 likesWhen they got broken apart by Celestia, maybe the kid of theirs(Cadence), maybe Celestia took care of her, I’m not sure if such a young pony (Cadence) matches...🤔
The whole point could be that Cadence received a gift from her parents:)
i think cadence is the daughter of the princess who had a love potion put on her
1 likeDo y’all remember the caves beneath chanterlot? (idk how to spell it) Chrysalis trapped twilight and cadence in them in season 2 in the wedding episode. how did the imposter cadence or chrysalis know about them she says “most ponies forgot these have even existed” then how did she know they existed does that mean chrysalis is from chanterlot?
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Some things are naturally hidden within the secrets of people like those in the royal family, passed on per generation. Chrysalis just had to find someone with the right information if she wasn't around at the time to begin with.
1 likeWhat if her parents were effected by the live potion and had cadance as a child, after the potion worn off they sadly forgot Cadance’s existence. She was abandoned and with inly being a young she didnt know about her parents and where they were.
0 likesnow we have some information about cadence, and who the princess from hearts and hooves day is, but who is the prince from hearts and hooves day?
0 likesWhat if it's her parents 🤔 an they ended up having a child that resulted to cadance so they wouldn't need to make a potion he could just use cadances gift to keep his love from dying at that result they both fell at there duties an ended up leaving cadance to defend🤔
0 likesHere is the story = I think
2 likesThere was a price who loves princess cadence so much that he have to give a love potion, he gaves it to princess cadence, those two fell in love they cannot protect the " Crystal empire " That's when sombra attack!!! , sombra rule the crystal empire, he also gave a curse, but then princess celestial hold them from seeing each other so they are not in love again, but she was too late king sombra have rule the crystal empire
Pls don't copy this is my idea <3
I don’t know if this theory already exists but just in case... you know that Cadane’s full name is Miamora Cadenza well in the mlp fandom there is the old ruler of the crystal empire named Princess Amore and that sort of translates love and princess Cadence is the princess of love... What if she was named after her mother Princess Amore? Plus you can’t deny the similarities btw Flurry Heart and Princess Amore
0 likeswhat if cadence is that princess in the story and that prince is king Sombra. in my opinion it would make sense because the reason why Sombra keeps going after The crystal empire, is because of cadence...
1 likeBut.. Tirek knew about cadence so she was there when he was defeated which means she's over 1, 000 years old?
1 likeHmm maybe Cadence is the descendant of the prince and princess and all her life she was taught that that was how love worked and there was nopony around to show her what it really is
0 likesThat's probably why she casted that spell on the couple back when she babysitted Twilight, she still didn't know how love worked between mare and stallion, or Celestia was teaching her at that time but Cadence still didn't understand yet
It was until she met Twilight's brother, Shining Armor, then she began to fully understand how romantic love worked
She probably learned family and friendship love from babysitting Twilight and communicating with her and Shining's parents too as a bonus
Your videos are awesome
2 likesI think it’s because she was a little shy and then she got the love and then when she drink the love potion it affected her horn that’s how she made her room like love and that’s how it’s the same ability
0 likesI don’t think this theory could be possible first of if you look at when twilight first became a alicorn she just looked like a normal she was the same height as any other pony around her age but a few episodes later you can see that she has become a bit taller than they usual pony then her stomach area seems to became like flatter irk how to describe it. Then you look back to when cadance foalsits twilight she looks the average height or even shorter and her stomach area is still like normal less flat whatvr this indicates that she most likely recently became alicorn probably a little before she started foal sitting twilight. Secondly when looking to cadance now and her when she was foal sitting twilight you can see that her appearance has changed after 14 or so years after foal sitting twilight and when looking back to the hearts and hooves day episode twilight says that this love poison thing happened a long time ago and looking at te image in the book that shows the ingredients you can see that the princess has alrdy gone through these stages. And if celestia did save cadance from this poison and made her foal sit little kids I didn’t think that she would have to foal sit kids for at least 100yrs or so and celestia couldn’t have saved her only a short amount of time before she started foal sitting twilight that doesn’t seem that the prince would live that long and the reason why I’m mentioning the prince is that he is just a regular earth pony probably meaning that he could live as long as alicorns and once the prince die I think that the poison would wear off and cadance wouldn’t be under the influence of the poison and these are some of the resins why this theory couldn’t possibly be true.
1 likeWhat if Cadence invented hearts and hooves day
0 likesjust a reminder we don't know any of the characters' ages all we know is that Fluttershy is older than pinkie pie
1 likeI think that the prince and the princess of the hearts and hooves day are cadences parents because that would explain her magic since it is love magic
0 likesI think I know where it was in the Crystal Empire when she was a child because if Celestia found out what happened to her parents she would help her take gain of 𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐝𝐨𝐦 because it wasn't mentioned til season three but for her to have those powers 𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐦𝐨𝐦 had to be prengant 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐂𝐚𝐧𝐞𝐝𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞
0 likesMe and my friends have a more disturbing idea during that loves the scene in that Twilight cadence flashback. Insta back it up my friends and I can't help but think that what if those two families were actually siblings
0 likesNo no no no no NO! Seriously do you even read the comics!? From what the comics suggest about cadence looking very much like Princess Amore, (the "first" crystal princess of the Crystal Empire), I think it's very plausible that she's Princess Amore's long lost DAUGHTER, not some long ago alicorn princess that she doesn't even look like!
1 likeI did some studies on this and cadence is that princess, plus because The prince Did the spell to cadence maybe it was too strong and made love what cadence is!
0 likesmy sister Ugh my little pony’s for kids!
2 likesme at night MY LITTLE PONY I LOVE TWILIGHT
Do this; Why does human Twilight or Sci-Twi get wings when she pony ups if she’s a unicorn in the pony world?
0 likesI guess the price and princess in the hearts and hoves day is their parents and her mom saved her from her father because she is a Pegasus who can normally spread love and raised by two Earth poneys Soo I guess princess Celestia turned her for a reason and cadence was turned into a alicorn after luna was banished to the Moon sooo that makes sense right?...right....?
1 likethis is probably something everyone wondered about
1 likeI love this video waiting for another
0 likesI think that the unknown pony is cadence’s mother then once she had the potion it some how got pass down to cadence . I say this because hearts and hooves day was most likely started before cadence was born to have been written in a book that twilight would read and much less enjoy. I think this would work as we don’t know much about her family other than shining armour and flurry heart. It could be once her kingdom fell princess celestia went there and took cadence so she would not need to live a childhood of knowing that her father had caused their kingdom to fall.
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I really highly doubt that Sombra was her father, the pony in the story looks nothing like him. Could be though because that was FAKE love. TRUE love might have been found after Celestia broke the spell. Guess what? Celestia may not have been around at the time, this could have happened way back when Starswirl was around, I remember one of the sisters saying that they were actually young. And also, I doubt that both of them were her parents. See, the princess was an alicorn. Hope you realize what I'm getting to, and Celestia and Luna are both not her mother, clearly there were no other alicorns at the time of her birth. So, I agree with Sawtooth that the princess was definitely Cadence. And yes, it doesn't look like her, but it does look like a drawing.
0 likesCadence is actually 21 years old, but there's a chance that shes thousands years old. Princess Cadence was a member of the royal family before the war between the Zebra Empire and Equestria. ... She was an old friend of Twilight Sparkle and the niece of the princesses Celestia and Luna...
0 likesWhat if cadence is actually an born alicorn and that’s why she also could give birth to an alicorn? The reason no one knew that was her parents was the rulers of the Crystal empire and her parents was the once getting the love poisen? And they had her while they were under the spell so she got the powers? And when the empire fell for king sombra celestria rescued cadence from him and her parents?
1 likeWait....what if that was sambra?
0 likesSambra was the one who made that love potion
And they both fell in love....But sambra has a horn and that stallion in the book doesn't have one
But sambra's horn is unique
Its out of the ordinary,
But another thing
When rarity was explaining about her favorite legend about mist mane
Mist mane also had that same kind of bendy horn
And so did all the other unicorns in that story
But that was over a 1000 years ago
Something doesn't feel right-
The crystal empire was brought down by sambra because of his need of the crystal heart-
But princess celestial and Luna, banished the empire right?
What if this is a revenge story-
.............
This is giving me a head ache-
Or maybe! That alicorn in the book is actually cadances mother!
They had a kida and that was cadence, and celestia found put about it
And since the kingdom was falling apart
She gave cadence the responsibility of the empire
And since she was given birth with both the pony's having a love potion in there bloodline
She might have had that kind magic within her when she was born-
But didn't cadence only had wings-
Right? Or nah- and that's just fan fiction-
But if cadence did really only had wings and celestia made her into an alicorn
Then it would probably would be a reason for her to get better control with the love magic thing within her,
Wait another thing-
If that made in the book is an alicorn
Then why the hell did celestia say that flurry heart is the first alicorn to be born as one-
And also in the book, the mare is a grown pony
While we can see cadance as a foul in the show
It might sound dumb, but what else can you expect from a 12 year old- qnq
I also think that maybe they are cadences parents? and due to the love curse between the two cadence was born with love powers as effects from the potion and maybe somehow that love potion transferred its magic into cadence
0 likestheory: she was and alicorn, princess of..idk and the prince made the potion, and as a result the was now the princess of love with lovey-dovey powers
0 likesDidn’t she sing a song once about her past being a Pegasus and a mare tried to take over the village
0 likesIn the ticket master, rarity's reason to go to the gala is to meet princess celestia's nephew, but I don't think he's luna's son.
0 likesCadance is the most beautiful of the princesses )
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when you don't count the other three
1 like@Sawtooth Waves omg hi! 💖
0 likesOooorrrr they could be Cadences parents i mean if she gave birth to an alicorn maybe her mother gave birth to Cadence, and she and her mother where both born alicorns.
0 likesMaybe the reason she is known as the Princess of love is because the love potion was carried into her blood, that's why she is able to cast that spell and knows so much about it.
Does anyone get the four leaf clover on his head? It’s a symbol of Saint Patrick’s day, a special day in Ireland.
0 likesHold up
2 likesI just learned that Sawtooth watches MVPERRY
I think that princess is cadence and the crown on the princess head had hearts on it so the princess of love and that is cadence role
1 likeRemember that the cristal empire fell? IT MUST BE THE ONE KIMDOM THAT ONCE FELL!!!!
0 likesYou should do the story of princesses candence
0 likesmy brain is saying that Cadence is the child of the victim
1 likeI honestly doubt that that princess is Cadence. If it was, the prince would be a unicorn and Shining armour. If Cadence was that princess, then she WOULDN’T be so in love with Shining armour. Her prince would be a earth pony. I think that the potion was so strong that the prince and the princess would have had a child. I think that the prince and princess are Cadences mother and father. How she became a alicorn is still unknown. We can only go off the book. I think her mother might have teached her love spells maybe seeing as cadence is the princess of love.
0 likesI love ur vids Sawtooth keep it up ❤️❤️❤️ (secretly hoping we get a face reveal soon 😂👉👈)
I just noticed that this was an alicorn, so that means that there have to be more alicorns, if this isn't caidens (sorry I don't know how to spell her name)
0 likesSawtooth Waves: "but in the meantime what do you think? Is cadence that alicorn from hearts and hooves day? Why or why not?.
0 likesMe : oh yeah yeah I was just thinking that did the mare get have a spa day with her friends. Did she ever get a hoof-e- cure?
Question: if Gen 5 is connected to gen 4 how come there are no windigos? Doesn’t the windigos show up if the ponies are not working together? Or is just a old myth?
0 likesI kinda thought that the pony princess in the tale was her mom.
0 likesShe came from a different world zapped to the world she’s in now
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Cadence is probably 600 years old
0 likesI just watched ur video about the star swirl theory then gave me a theory that will kinda well u will know when i say it ok if u watch the episode crystal empire 1 and 2 u might realize that princess Celestia when she explains the test she mentions “if you pass the test you will go to the next level of ur studies” so i think star swirl saw how worthy luna and celestia to be alicorns but bc u may have saw the book well the star swirl book luna and celestia that were levitating if thats what u call it i think star swirl told luna and celestia to be in charge of alicorns and you know the rest
0 likesFirst I thought that you made the song again just with the princess lol 😂
1 likeMabe it's her mom because love mabe traveled through her horn once the mom was sperated that's my theory and then cadence was born and she controlled the power
0 likesI can’t believe I missed a SawtoothWaves Video 😭
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they're all still there!
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves all of them? You haven't deleted or priveted anything?
0 likesHm. What if Cadence got her cutie mark from that experience?
0 likesWhat if the Falling kingdom was the crystal empire
0 likesThis is a very good explanation. Up until this point I never really liked Cadence, she was insignificant enough that the show would easily have gone on without her.
0 likesBut this is really good, now we just add some kind of connection between her and Princess Amore and the Crystal Empire and she’s a full blown interesting character!
Idk cadence's main is similar to the alicorn in the picture. Maybe it's her, or her mother? Something like that?
0 likesI have a video request IS THE MY LITTLE PONY FUTURE GOING TO COME ON NETFLIX!?!
0 likesPrincess amore is all i believe
0 likesokay but didn't you say that King Sombra and Queen Chrysalis formerly ruled? And that Queen Chrysalis was the p r i n c e s s / q u e e n o f l o v e ?
0 likesBut wait King Sombra has a horn. Damn.
Or The mystery girl the prince was in love with with was Cadances mom
0 likesEdit: wow I’m really smart UwU
YOUR CHANNEL LITERALLY POPPED UP FOR ME AND YOU LOOK A LITTLE FAMILIAR.
0 likesSay, are you acquaintances with the Ex-Queen Of Changlings?
Could you reform sombra
0 likesI think cadance is Child of this princess and Prince that she can grow love
0 likesIf princess Caden was the pony with the love spell who did the stallion because it can't be signing armor right 😕
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Does this mean princess Caden was love someone before signing armor and did she cast the love spell on him but it got out of control this must mean why she don't like talking about her past because and bring her same!. Poor princess cadence with does this mean princess Caden roll over a another kingdom?OMG😰😱😲😬
2 likesI thought so to
2 likesOMG your right!😬😟
2 likesWelllllllllll i have an question ok for now we will make Cadence that unknown princess but who was the prince?
1 likeAnd I think because cadences past was bad and sad is that is why now she is know as memory cadences just to hide her past? As u shown about cadences in the marriage of shinning amour was taken to a spell but when Cadence was crying it felt like she didn't Wanted to lose shinning amour like she did with the before with the unknown prince😔
How come we have not seen a second Sunset Shimmer because she is in a different how come we haven't seen a duplicate
2 likesmaybe that pony on the book is Princess Cadance's mom and dad!
0 likesI don't think that Cadence that pony from the love story, for many reasons.
0 likesFirst In all history of mlp there was only 5 alicorns: Celestia, luna,twilight, Cadence and flurry heart.
It's can't be twilight or flurry definitely. And it's not Luna cuz she still was on the moon in that time. And it is not Cadence, because in the flashback from twilight childhood, Cadence was like 12 years old ,even if she is alicorn it's can't be that she was that princess, she was too young!
Yes Cadence past one of the most greatest secret in mlp ,some says she princess amore great daughter, some says that she the one who could escape from the crystal empire by some magical experiment which was made to free crystal empire from king sombra spell,and after that Cadence was found by Celestia. (That my theory by the way)
But still maybe her past was just like twilight life? She was a gifted Unicorn, who became Celestias student and eventually became a princess?
Hey Sawtooth, seeing stuff about the recent info about g5, it would be cool to hear your thoughts about it so far, it could be an interesting video topic ;)
0 likesIf the prince had no horn it could not have been shining armor then who was the prince?.........
0 likes5:44 Sawtooth Waves says: syannax... sawtooths POV: i hate synnax.
0 likes5:46 Sawtoth Waves says: farefallen... sawtoth POV: hate farefallen to.
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0 likesOoh maybe the pony in the book is cadance mother and the spell has lasting effects which explains the magic she has the only thing is.. She would be born a alicorn which never happend before flurry heart..
0 likesI think she is not because in the picture, that alicorn looks old like an adult and when cadance cast the spell she was a kid maybe it was her mom or grandmother
1 likeI like this theory.
1 likeWhat are your social media sawtooth ?
1 likeI love this video
0 likesYour baby twilights brother has been saving princess cadence and then he actually grow his horn
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Dafuq?
1 likeits cadances parents cuz she could not remarrie cuz she would know that love hurt her kingdom. she could never trust love agian. like in princess bride. SHE said " i will never love agian".
0 likesIf he didn’t actually do love Princess did you did you get so used to them to the spell that got like I mean the potion a cut on her and then she started doing it herself but spells instead of potions
0 likesBut Cadence was turned into an Alicorn.
0 likesCan you make a video explaining where is sunset shimmer in the human world ? Im really confused
0 likesI like how you use "somepony"
0 likesum i think the alicorn in the story is cadance's twin sister
0 likesBut she was visibly under 18 when she was baby siting twilight and if that was before that wouldin’t be possible
0 likesHi just thought of this idk if you have done a vid on this but here it is so we have the mane 6 pinkie pie, twilight sparkle, apple jack, rainbow dash, flutter shy and rarity all have 2 names but... rarity can you do a Theory? PLEASE
1 likeThumbnail looks cute af
0 likesI figured that they were her parents
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Who's parents?
0 likesThen what is the relationship between queen chrisalis and Cadence
0 likesWhat if they are her parents
0 likesIf there is a version of Twilight Sparkle in the human world and Sunset Shimmer comes from the pony wrold would there be a humen version of her and would we meet her
0 likesBecause they are ponys can you call it filly sitting instead of baby sitting
0 likes...I don't know whether to explode my brain or to become a pony myself and find out...............................................................................................................................................................................
0 likesIs it me or does that pony look like joe from the grand galloping gala and mmmystery? If u still have no clue what I am talkin about it’s that donut pony
0 likesCan you pls pls make a video of the mystery of the jeos from eqestriya girls
0 likesHow old is Celestia
0 likes1:24 that's all I care about
0 likesTheir hairstyle is the SAME :O
0 likesi dont think so she was that alicorn she was a teenager whe she was twi,s foal sitter the princess in the book looks like a grown up mare
0 likes안녕하세요?저는 한국에 있는데요. 당신에 밝혀진 마이리틀포니 미스터리들은 정말 딱딱 맞아요! 짱짱!
1 likeI’m gonna try this trend
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0 likes@Sawtooth Waves but it did work because it summoned you
0 likesI. WONT. SPITFIRE. AS. A. ALICRON
0 likesi have a book about Cadence
0 likesI think she’s their child
0 likesI think she is the daughter and that why she have that power his mother was the lady and she leave her kingdom and that’s why the king sombra take the place
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0 likesWOW !😉👍🐱cat
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0 likesWhat do you think about G5?
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G5 is meh 🤷 but I know it will get better!🦄
0 likesit can not be cadens because the mare in the story is much older than cadens was when twi was with her also cadens was not born befor the first harts and hoves day
0 likesHe is game theory but for my little pony
2 likesA pony who hate love one day the pony drain all the love cadence was a pegausu she try to reason with her but then idea she told something to her her evil heart broke a then she was reform that when cadence was form into a allicon but the pony who hate we don't know fun fact before celestia was a earth pony
0 likesMost people think that it's her parent or relatives but let's not forget that the princess in the story is an alicorn so that just messed up those theories and I can back up that there is no alicorn civilization since.... "the birth of an alicorn is beyond even our understanding"
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Ikr!
0 likesCelestia said that flurry heart is the first alicorn born in history
So that can't be cadences mom-
But who know, celestia and Luna might be keeping this is a secret to the public?
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Yea..
0 likesYa know No one ever rly notices how shady the princesses are 😂
0 likesWow that’s a Misty btw what is the back round music called
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where are your fingers?
0 likesToo young my guy
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1 likeThe crown in Hudson Jose is not the same
0 likesThere is a book
1 likeYALL THATS PROBABLY WHY EVERYONE WAS SHOOK WHEN SHE CAME BACK TO THE CRYSTAL EMPIRE
1 likei have the book
0 likesCadens is NOT a princess she is Empress
0 likesI hate when ppl call your oc marry sue that s not nice all oc design's are beaty
0 likesShe was to yang
0 likesMaybe it’s her parents instead? Because I don’t really think it’s her
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Yeah because she was younger when she was Twilight's baby sitter mabe the Pony in the picture is her Mum
0 likesNo no no she I think she has a long time ago a witch has passed a bell and she tried to make somebody in love and then they would break up very very very very fast and Kate said it know that that so along time ago I guess he that guy was twilight brother a.k.a. toiletsBig brother
1 likeThere her parents maybe
0 likesI those were her relatives
0 likesI think cadance is a Cupid or something
1 likeI think it's har mom maybe she gate har magic from the poshan because har mom was in the spal and she got the spals magic and I have a prof we now har mom but we don't now har dad because har mom was free so she divorce with the man and that's why we didn't see him so what's your suggestions about my thoughts
0 likesIs queen chrysalis first changllings
0 likesWhat going on in A Questria girls in season 9 ?
0 likessudent sunset have a double ganger in the human world :<
0 likesOoh I am not sure what to do it for you
0 likesNo this is not the story but I don't know what it could be I think and I tell later
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0 likesI Think shes pink
0 likesI think so
0 likesWill you be someone else to look like Kayden but doesn’t end well call me that now on unicorn wallboard me being somebody else’s love one because there’s a wink of old so that will just call us so yeah but can you change every day of loving show Hayden I’m going to write my birthday party and where is my lovely boy and then say you have a magic love magic and that I am good damn real love you Debbie so yeahI think of kin
0 likesNot right theory
0 likesDad just got off my work so I’m not sure what time to do the work yet but I’m going on the phone number and now I’m trying my hardest thing for my phone and my dad and dad to come back and get my stuff ready and then then I’ll make a phone with you guys to make it happen I don’t need you guys I just hate it when you guys get out a lot lol I just got home so I’m going on my phone and I don’t think so I don’t need anything to help me with my phone number so I’m not going on my computer lol I love how I am and I’m sorry 😣
0 likesUzely prinzenz cadens myt not was the one that make it the one that was in it!😶
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0 likesCadanse is was here baby sister but is she twillet sister
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1 likeThis is dumb redo it now
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1 likeHi im a pegasiuse and im called shimer locks
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I mean pegasi
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0 likesUhmmmm imbconfiuse sawtooth is that your name????????? iii......don't know
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0 likesI like the idea of Cadence being tied to the Hearts and Hooves day situation, but I'd like to offer an alternative reason why Cadence used that magic and why Cadence isn't entirely under its control. Cadence is the princess of the Crystal Empire. If Cadence was tied to the Crystal Empire from the start, perhaps the Crystal Heart absorbed most of the love potion's effects and allows the Crystal Ponies to share the spell's effects.
0 likesWhen Cadence was babysitting for Twilight, she would have been nowhere near the Crystal Heart. If she had too much of the energy in her that she would otherwise be routing through the Crystal Heart, perhaps she had to keep an eye out for situations where she could release a little bit of the spell.
I've just always considered the book explanation to be the closest thing we have to a cannon Cadence backstory. It's a neat story, because it shows that pegasi can also become alicorns. Cadence was born a Pegasus and was orphaned at a young age. She was found an taken in by an Earth Pony family. That being said, we don't know who her actual parents were. Maybe they were the ponies from the love potion story.
0 likesNice theory Sawtooth👍
2 likesPlus, that clover looks SOOOOOO CUTE on you!!🥺🤗🤩
Hey Sawtooth I’m glad you bought up Cadence’s past because I’m trying connecting the dots about her and Princess Mi Amore. I been thinking about this for some time since The Crystal Empire came back. I’m also thinking Cadence is related to the Princess although she was a unicorn in the comics but I’m putting my two bits in and saying that Cadence and Mi Amore are mother and daughter. This has been driving me crazy ever since that episode. May be you have an opinion on this
0 likesI'm pretty sure Cadence nor any of her relatives were affected by the love potion, but instead she tried to make a weaker version of the potion with her magic.
2 likesMy theory on Cadence's spell is that after a brief period of lovey-dovey nonsense, the ponies in question are calm enough to actually talk things out; we just don't see it because either she and Twilight walked off before it happened and Cadence explained herself later or Twilight didn't think it was relevant to her story. If she was the princess from the tale, my theory could still work with Cadence creating a spell that did what damaged her but in a more productive manner; fitting for the Alicorn of Love.
0 likesI suggest that back then, Cadence was younger and didn't know how to help couples by using her magic to help them see eye to eye, rather just make them focus on their love. Now, I suppose Cadence is more responsible and knows how to use her magic without basically putting a love spell on every problem she sees.
0 likesI always thought that cadance was an attempt at bringing back the og princess of the crystal empire that sombre destroyed. The Princess then had a similar design to cadance as well (this is from the comic). After she was shattered some pony tried to gather all her pieces and put her back together. They were only able to put together a few pieces and out came cadance. That then explains why she started off as a peagues as the rest of her was gone and explains why she particularly was given reign over the crystal empire and why the crystal ponies accepted her since she was once their princess. Also the crystal pony princess and cadance have similar names.
0 likesI think cadence is a relative of those two ponies from the story and she somehow magically gained the ability to spread love through her ancestors
0 likesWell I often wondered who Cadence's parents were. Curious how she ended up being raised ny Princess Celestia. Before the return of Nightmare Moon. Then being purified by the Elements of Harmony. Then became Princess Lima once more. My own speculation is that Cadence or Mi Amore Cadenza as it is her official title as the Princess of Love. Any ways I speculate that she was the daughter of King Sombra. Who was an evil ruler of the Crystal Empire. Which makes me wonder what caused Sombra to become evil.
0 likesCelestia must’ve gave her another chance
2 likesANOTHER LIFE!
And that potion affected cadence so she’s got the power of love and she didn’t know what it could do but when she got older she stopped using it to keep ponies from doing what they need to do
2 likesI'd place my chips on her being the DAUGHTER of the two. And the love related magic was the product/side effect left behind from the potion onto Cadence, since the two spells are dangerously similar!
0 likesI think Cadance's love spell is a weaker more temporary version of the love poison . I think she is around the same age as shinning armour .
0 likesI can't help but think that the prince and the princess from the story are Cadance's parents. That makes a lot of sense.
0 likes1. Their kindom fallen (the crystal empire)
2. This makes Flurry Heart's genetic, if you will, anomaly more understandable. Having a alicorn grandmother and an alicorn mother makes it way easier for her to be born as an alicorn.
3. The spells look similar because Cadance's parents were affected by the love spell.
You know I think when cadence was just a kid she thought her job was to TAS love spells but after time she realised that her jod is to spreat love with the crystal heart
0 likesI have always thought that the Prince and princess under the spell were her parents. My reasoning behind this is because in my thought process her ability to do love magic with stem from the fact that she was born through the power of a love poison. And that maybe she ended up being taken by Celestia because her parents were so infatuated with each other they ignored the fact that she even existed or just didn’t actually notice. If we pay attention to how the poison affects Big Mac and Cheerily they didn’t even notice anything going on around them when it came to seeing each other nothing got in their way, imagine having a child and then all of a sudden forgetting that exist because the poison of the love potion that you drank is distorting your mind. That is my thought on how she came into the hands of Celestia
0 likesOkay, I know this is off-topic, but it's been on my mind for a few days.
0 likesBecause Changelings, before the metamorphosis, were feeding off of a specific feeling (love), this came to my mind. What if they fed off of a different emotion?. I always saw their holes as an "incomplete" body, that anything could fill them. Love may be desired from Chrysalis' specific hive, but what of others? I don't recall other hives being mentioned outside of Chrysalis's and Thorax's rule in the show. What if other emotions, feelings and traits were sought after by the other hives. After the metamorphosis, that was the end result of Changelings truly connecting with love. What if it was happiness, or hate, instead. What emotions made other hives whole?
That love manipulation thing is pretty scary to me though.
Did anyone else notice that at the wedding the glow from Shining Armor and Cadence are the same color as the potion?
1 likeThere are a few plot holes here though. One, Cadance would have been too young to be the princess considering she was found as a filly by the village of Earth ponies. Second, she didn't have a kingdom where she could of lost due to being incapacitated by a love poison. There is the Crystal Empire but.. would she have been given a big enough role considering her age? Most likely situation is either Princess Amour, or an unspoken family member of her family was the unlucky princess who got put under the spell which helped King Sombra take over the Crystal Empire..
0 likesIt says that she was a member of the Royal family before the war between Zebra empire and equatstria and that she is also the niece of Princess Celestia and Luna
2 likesEdit: Its been said that Cadence also might be 1000 years old since tirek knows her:
That would mean that Tirek would have known about Cadence, which would presumably mean that Cadence was an alicorn princess at the time that Celestia and Luna defeated Tirek i.e. before Luna's attempted coup against Celestia. This would mean that Cadence is over a thousand years old!- I don't get this I mean it makes sense but why would she look so young in the flashback with twighlight
Did anyone else find it weird that the princess in the book’s drawing had no wings until later in the episode?
0 likesIn season nine "the last end of the end" I saw a picture frame of cadance as an earth pony, she has no horn or wings she's just an earth pony.
1 likeBut, in the story it said Cadence was just a pegasus and got her horn from defeating that which who stole the love of the village she was in. But maybe she came from the fallen kingdom, fled the chaos before it got worse.
0 likesaw i love cadence even more now
1 likeI’ve always thought that Cadence is the Alicorns daughter and she was born an Alicorn it would make sense because how else could she be so good at love spells she also kind off looks like the Alicorn princess
0 likesthen they saw the terrifying form of adagio they had the same problem so they both decided all of them to do this massive however when they were banished the parents also did the spell but didn’t want to be cut so then they formed as ponies that you may see as normal
0 likesNot quite related to the video, but... I think that Cozy Glow may have inadvertently confirmed that Cadence was born a pegasus.
0 likesNote every alicorn's wings, more specifically their coloring:
Celestia's wings are off-white, like the rest of her coat. Luna's are navy blue, like the rest of her coat. Twilight's are lavender, like the rest of her coat.
Cadence's wings start off as the same pink as her coat, but gradient into a lavender color near the tips. Similarly, Flurry Heart's wings start off-white and then gradient into pink.
Now, Cozy Glow is a pegasus. Normally, her wings are a single, solid peachy color, the same as the rest of her coat. But when she turns into an alicorn? Her wings gradient into a deeper pink.
It seems that when a pegasus becomes an alicorn, its wings grow with that gradient coloring, but if the pony did not have wings originally, the wings grow in a single color.
Flurry Heart was born an alicorn, but she gets that from Cadence's genes- so perhaps she is genetically the same as a pegasus becoming an alicorn.
There is a MLP book released about Cadence's past. I can't remember its title, but it's been out for a few years.
0 likesI've always been on team Cadence.
0 likesI think the love one from Hearts and Hooves day is twilight sparkle’s brother: Shining Armor! That is why she just got to Twilight so easily!
0 likesThe magic that cadences long relative or Mum used could have been dark magic well cadence is daddy is kind of in the dark magic but when cadence was born and it was in her blood it turned good magic but her parents were still under a dark spell so maybe they’re still alive because our coins can stay alive forever because a fairy that you suggested but you said that it was not true because of Luna saying there were no eloquence born in a Questria before I don’t remember what you said but your fairy was they were born from a land that was far away from the Questria soLuna and celestial could’ve been anyone as our coins and it also included discord Luna and celestial finding a Questria together so they could’ve stayed alive a lot longer as well a lot longer than other ponies because in the episode where everyone was going to the gala for the second time discord told flutter shy at one point that he was centuries-old so celestial and Luna could’ve been sent she is old but can instead of not couldn’t have been the Alcorn because she is Billy twilights reimagining thing same age but cadences Relative could have use that potion or being affected by it and so STF forgot and cadence should’ve made love and then Celesta gave him wings not remembering a love spell that was caused all those years ago so cadence could’ve not been that À la corn so it must’ve been a relative but she still married that prints which could’ve been a relative to another equestrian pony looks a lot like big Mac but they don’t remember or even know they were royalty so the spell didn’t affect big Mac in the same way because in the dream with Luna trying to hold back the tentacles she was an À la corn so he didn’t have the same affect as cadence because she was already an hour cool from her relative because it was on her side of the family so I think cadence and big man are relatives which makes Twilight and applejack relatives and it’s pinky pie and applejack are really cousins that means that pinky pie and applejack and Twilight or relatives and that the alcohol couldn’t have been cadence because she was a Philly and twilights flashback when you tell the story I thought a lot of things about it so it couldn’t have been right
1 likeOk yeah it makes a lot of sense but...what if that alicorn wasn’t cadence? That leaves the question...if it isn’t cadence WHO was or is that alicorn what kingdom fell and most important. What happened to her or even his husband? Is it another alicorn that we don’t know?
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0 likesThe book doesn't have to be independently verified. If it was officially released, and the main canon doesn't contradict it, then the book is canon. And her love magic is most likely connected to her ancestry. Cadance is the descendant of Princess Amore, the original ruler of the Crystal Empire before Sombra usurped the throne. Also, Cadance isn't old enough to have been part of that Love Poison event.
0 likesIf you changelings give love 💕 and change , could it be chrysalis mere added a corruption to the race once and that's why you all had a non rainbow form after hatching and growing, maybe sombra had an extra crystal .✴️
0 likesI don't know........ Cadence is depicted as a teen, perhaps young teen, while sitting Twilight. Making it unlikely, in my mind, that she is that princess. However, she was seemingly intrinsically known as the Crystal Princess upon the return of the Crystal Empire making it seem that she may well be a decedent of a past Princess. It may be that it was her great grandmother was the potion Princess and that distraction allowed Sombre to take over. The battle to oust him costing the Princess her life. Even more tragically, the potion may have then been a response to seemingly fading love as royal and motherly duties take time away from other relationships.
0 likesi still wanna know how cadence is celestia's "niece" when she isn't luna's daughter
0 likesPerhaps the alicorn shown to us is an ancient relative of hers, maybe Princess Amore? We’ve never seen her outside of the comics and the comics are in a murky zone in terms of canon. It would make sense that the fallen kingdom was the Crystal Empire and it led the way for Sombra to take over?
0 likesHere’s my idea:
Sombra was madly in love with Princess Amore, the original princess of love, and used the potion to fall in love with her and of course the story goes as it does in the show.
However, I think there’s more to it:
(I swear this is related to the theory) when Sunset wore Twilight’s crown in EQG it still had an effect on her, which I believe was because Sunset still represented magic enough that she could wield the element, but in a negative corrupted form; same with Nightmare Moon (similarly to Amore, the canonicity of if she is a possessed Luna in the show itself is unclear so technically it still works), who became corrupted into an evil form; and if we go off of what we know about the changlings and their metamorphosis, Chrysalis easily could be the same way.
Tying this back into the theory: perhaps Amore similarly, was corrupted by a “evil” or false love by the potion; and in order to stop her Sombra fell to the forces of dark magic, taking on a unicorn form (since the prince already had a knowledge of magic to begin with), and assumed rule over the Crystal Empire.
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Now this is a bit of a stretch but perhaps Amore’s corruption led her to becoming the first changeling, needing to manipulate and feed off of love to survive, as her connection with Sombra was severed. She could have been a distant ancestor to Chrysalis (since if she was also Chrysalis, it wouldn’t make a ton of sense since neither Sombra nor Chrysalis bring up any connection when they meet, however it would make sense that she would never talk about the guy who manipulated her via magic and then banished her).
0 likesIt’s kind of like how in Greek mythology entire species were created because gods got salty about something and decided to take it out on a human.
I never thought of this at all but now that u mention it I think I agree that cadance is that princess from hearts and hoofs day
0 likesi had just assumed the story was from before the fall of the alicorns, or at the very least the story is less of a historical thing and more of a cautionary tale and whichever pony illustrated it was alive under the rule of celestia and luna and therefore associated the idea of a princess with being an alicorn
0 likesCadences kingdom did fall. We didn’t know much about the crystal empire and how she rules it. And back then the characters don’t know much about it either.
0 likesI'm Brazilian and I hardly speak English, but I still love your videos :-)
1 likeTo everyone who doesn't know this please Know that Cadence was born a Pegasus not a unicorn, not an alicorn. Base your theories on that info! Since it's important because that means she obtained horn magic through magic.
0 likesThe crystal empire did fall to King Sombra the cannon story in the show is Celestia found Cadence wandering around
0 likesin a snowstorm and made her a niece. So could be
The acorn in the book look way older then cadence the sharper horn then the 1 When cadence was baby siting she looked much more younger
1 likeThere's this princess named Princess Amore and she's a relative of Cadence .
0 likesMaybe the ponies from the story are Cadence’s parents. And since that their kingdom fell and the spell was never lifted Princess Celesta took in Cadence as she would have been abandoned.
0 likesCadence has been confirmed to have been made into an alicorn, she was born a Pegasus
0 likesThe princess might be her mom and then with losing the prince and being in a spell her anger turned her into Chrystallis and cadences was saved by princess calestia and she was probably a alicorn by birth to but she didn’t remember and wait if calestia is the only one able to turn them into alicorns and didn’t made her a alicorn and knew she was one by birth why was she so surprised by flurry?!Interesting
1 likeI love how much of a big brain he has
1 likeWait... Since Cadence is an alicorn and she came from another kingdom, then does that mean there are other alicons in the kingdom? Where did alicons come from exactly? Suddenly your old theory about an alicorn kingdom doesn't sound so stupid now, but just maybe they weren't all alicons
0 likesCan you also do one on the sirens because the sirens are my favorite and we don’t know the backstory every evil has a backstory except them there is one idea I have in my mind
0 likesThe thumbnail was adorable
1 likeI think she might be the daughter of those unnamed prince and princess, and she has her powers thanks to the potion.
0 likesIt’s a very good story but in twilight flashback in the first episode of the two parter with cadence they both a Phillies so cadence Couldn’t have been the à la corn because she was alive long before Twilight because it wasn’t coloured and that ties in with real life olden times not having coloured photos of pictures so I think that that Alcorn could be cadences Mum or a long past relative of cadence
1 likeI thought Cadence used to be pegasus.. I forgot where I heard that but I remember her used to be a pegasus but got turned into alicorn by Celestia after proving her worth like Twilight did... I guess I'm wrong
0 likescheck out the comics of mlp, it kind of explains cadens past.
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Yes, the comics has a lot of pasts of the ponies ❤️🦄🦄
0 likesHey Sawtooth can you tell me what you used to invert the color?
0 likesI think that Princess Cadence can't be this old. Uncomfortable age gap between her and Shining Armor aside, She seemed younger in Twilight's flashback, and if she would be a centuries old alicorn, her growth would be already done far before that- Take Twilight sparkle for example, she was done growing to the size of Celestia in about 20 years. I think Princess Cadence might be a descendant of the princess in the story, or maybe the connection between the spells is just a coincidence.
0 likesMaybe it was her parents who's kingdom got destroyed,got adopted by some ponies,raised by celestia and returned back to her kingdom.
0 likesMaybe Kaydance got that power by her mother
0 likesHer mother is unknown
Maybe her mother was the prince waif
So I think I know how this mystery goes I know princes cadence’s crown is not different but in the story it is and what if the crystal empire was her old kingdom and what if celestia saved the kingdom witch is of course the crystal empire
1 likebefore the sirens were pony they were always having hunger nothing to eat but they found a dark magic that would be them they didn’t think it was that good but then one pony day oldest one adagio decided to risk herself just to do it she use the magic telling him no longer be cool us the pony it was known as a siren which is a myth she found two more ponies Senada not an area they were arguing about to get a toy this somehow fed adagio
0 likesWhat i think is that cadence was that alicorn in the book only the thing is the alicorn from the book was all grownup so i think celestia used a time spell or starswirl did it to gave her a second chance which why she was twilight's foolsitter :)
0 likesBut when cadence babysitted twilight, twilight had no cutie mark which we know she got at the time she enrolled in celestia's academy.
0 likesI really liked this theory, only one problem. When Cadence and Twilight were walking she was still Young. So that means I’d she was that princess she probably wouldn’t have been older then young Twilight. She couldn’t have been in charge then, and even if she somehow was how the also young prince able to make that potion without help? I’m not saying this theory isn’t possible and in fact I really want to be possible but some things just aren’t adding up to me
0 likessearch the crystal heart spell song it talks about her back story and how she got her wings
0 likesthe alicorn in the picture is her mom Amora i did a video explain how this can work even how the male can be Smobra before he became a alicon and then reset to a unicorn
0 likesWhat would happen if more villains went thru the portal from twilight’s castle and reached the “human”world...?
0 likesi think that pony in book was candace mothere and when the kingdom destroyed the celestia and the luna raised candace
1 likeIf this is true, then maybe the prince that liked Cadence was Sombra?🤯😵
0 likesIronic how I didn't even catch onto her backstory
0 likesWhen I open YouTube click on the bell immediately click on this vid and screamed!! Waiting for this for a long time thank you so much
1 likeShe couldn’t have been because she was far younger when she brought that couple together. She might have been there daughter though
0 likesOr maybe the love story about the prince and princess, it was her parents in another land and they got a baby together and never gave the baby love so a mysterious pony took the baby and came with it to equestria and the baby is cadence.... and the pony left cadence and 2 earth ponies look after her until you know the book
0 likesIf it said her kingdom fell is that possibly connected to the crystal empire being taken over? 👀
1 likeThis is reminding me of the royal family. Cadence as Meghan being a divorce to the pony who used the potion then married Shining Armor as Harry. Excuse me I have been mixing too many things to watch T^T
0 likesThat makes sense as you know I’m the show they said the Christie empires returned and from what made shining armor could be the one who snapped cadence out of it so then cadence and shining being togother
0 likesI don’t think that her because hearts and hooves day seems old and we know Cadence was just a unicorn when Twilight was a filly.
0 likesIf candance had a kingdom,that is why crystal empire appeared after 1000 years.Maybe,according to me.
0 likesSeriously, Cadance is probably not the alicorn of the story. First, she wouldn't use that love spell so liberally if she had been victim to it before, and even more, the rest of the story talks about Discord with thinly veiled words. So it happened at least 1 000 years ago, long before Cadance's birth.
0 likesAnd the Alcorn in the book is cadence Mom the reason she has powers is because it was passed down through her family through genetic re-construction that’s the reason that she was lost when she was a baby because the parents were too irresponsible to take care of her
0 likesIf I am not wrong the student 6 elements are their own relics from their own home that’s why the pony six and the pillars aren’t the chosen one the spirit wanted to chose someone/some pony that is different!
1 likeGreat theory I thought they were her relatives
0 likesI was thinking what about the book? It mentioned her backstory and her being a pegasus. But then again, that theory can hppen after she became an alicorn.
0 likesI never noticed that the mare in the story was an alicorn :o
0 likesIt can't possibly be her because here's my theory : ( it's not her mother or her ) because it was a really long time ago it was actually luna, let me explain it was luna because cadence wasn't born when the starting of hearts and hooves day started but luna was . A prince did it to her, celestia as her sister saved her ,separated those both then luna choose to be single forever because she thought the same thing could happen. then after a few years later ( the next day when luna got banished )
0 likescelestia was heart broken then a week later a baby pegasus was born called cadence then when the sun summer celebration came cadence was so excited for a new festival * she was 8 years then * after the festival celestia was going to her castle but before she was she saw cadence's cutie mark she saw her full face then she stopped her she told " what is your name little filly"
cadence replied " My name is cadence your highness " celestia told her " will u be my student " cadence said so excited " Wait reallly Oh thank you so much your majesty " her parents were so proud. after a few years it was time for her to go when she went celestia said "Cadence!" cadence said " yes your majesty?" * btw she is now 12 years * Celestia said " i heard your parents died "
Cadence said " w-what? " Celestia said "im so sorry. hmm here's an idea will u be my adopted niece?" Cadence said " yes "
Celestia did'nt say this on purpose it was true. and a month later ( cadence is in ponyville and the crystal heart spell happened * the part where she saved ponyville from a witch idk i forgot )
Then celestia knew it was time for cadence to become an alicorn.then cadence said so happily " thank you your majesty "
Celestia said " You don't need to call me princess,majesty or highness now cadence ,because now your royalty too. after cadence's coranation,celestia told her " I'm so proud of you". ( and u guys know what happened cadence became a babysitter then the canterlot wedding u guys know the rest )
( Ok guys this took me 3 DAYS to finish this hopefully you can appreciate it and hopefully sawtooth can figure something out from this story )
* THE END *
I'm not sure it's what happened but it's a thought
Also I'm saying thank u for the people who ACTUALLY even read this whole story it was so long xD
Ok Well Bye Guys! :)
I think that the alicorn on hearts and hoves day is cadence mom
1 likeI’m not sure because Queen Amore was one of the first queen of the Crystal empire and she looks like cadence
0 likesmaybe that’s were she got her power
Or here mum when her kingdom fell she maybe couldn’t look after her ?
2 likeswell we don't know cadence age, but we can see her age pretty normally along side twilight & shining armor until she is an adult.... i still have so many questions about alicorn aging :c
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hard to believe SHE is the princess of the story considering if her aging is consistent and not sporadic. a long time ago she would have been a filly... and we see her aging to be comparable to other ponies until the current time of the main part of the series (where we don't really see ponies age at all like the cake twins or flurry) more likely she was related to them
0 likesThis makes a lot of sense tbh
0 likesLol finally you're talking about cadences past
0 likesNext up, FLUTTERBAT PLEASE! I NEED TO KNOWW! And also how fluttershy hears animals and why she's so shy?
0 likesI think the princess in the story of hearts and hooves Day isn't cadence what if she's cadence's mother and she ignored her daughter until celestia came and took her under her wing
0 likesI actually think I had the book but I don’t know where it is and I never thought it would have other info- should I try finding it and read it
0 likesi dont think its cadence because teh alicorn in the book looks much older but she looked like a teenager something in the time
0 likesu could do your next video on how long ponies live. bc in the last episodes of season 9 chrysalis says to starlight "now I'll ll ETERNITY to have my revenge you!"
0 likesi think it could be, what is if the Pony who gave Cadance, the Princess of the Crystall Kingdom, the Love Potion was Sombra, The Dark King, .. When Celestia broke the Spell, and bring Cadance to Canterlot, he was so Angry, that he Controll the Crystall Kiingdom, and the Kingdom was banned for thousend years
0 likesCadance is that Alicourn princess from the book because she looked scard just like in the book and cadences kingdom did colapes it was destroyed when sombra took it with him when he was vanished.
0 likesDoes the human pinkie pie have a secret party planning cave? We will never know, unless you want to use this idea in your next video.
0 likesSo I’m not to good at theory but what if that is cadences mom and dad in the story and the reason cadences manic isn’t as strong as the potion is because the manic was passed down through her parents so it would make sense for it to not be as strong and instead of cadence experiencing going through it again it’s more she’s going through what her mom went through.And there so a time setting for when the story took place in a way because hearts and hooves day must have been happening for years so the story behind it must have been quit old as well But cadence is I would say maybe around a young adult for her age (guessing) so with that being said it doesn’t make sense that it would be Cadence in the story well to me anyway.And but only that even if cadence was the one in the story then once the spell broke they most likely would still be togethor and she wouldn’t be with shining armor so I just think my theory makes a little more sense.✨
0 likesThis is only what my tiny brain was able to come up with It juts makes a whole lot of sense to me but you don’t have to agree!😁
Maybe the alicorn in that was actually taking his mum and maybe when she had the potion she calls to baby that was growing take care love magic and then when cadence was born had love magic maybe that's why
0 likesOh. I thought you were going to say that the ponies in the story were her parents
0 likesPlease listen to me.give this a 👍. IN the movie the forgotten friendship when they pony-up twitelight gets wings and the pegasi gets wings and as we know twitelight is a unicorn so that means that twitelight is a alicorn but when twitelight went through the portal she was a unicorn so I don't know why 😢😰😨. please answer my question.🙏🏻
2 likesCould Cadance be the daughter of those two pony?
0 likesI've noticed most royals have stripes in their hair, is that just coincidental? ✴️
0 likesWhat if they were her parents. And she was born with the potion still affecting them.
0 likesSawtooth waves can you please talk about princess amore
0 likesAnd cadence would’ve been a super young pony and she somehow knows what’s things oh now in my little ponie so cadence could have not been that à la corn because she’ll need help remembering stuff about the time and in
1 likeQuestria
HOW DO YOU PUT TWO SEEMINGLY RANDOM THINGS TOGETHER AND IT MAKE TOTAL SENSE?
0 likesYou should make one where you figure out if rainbow dash and appeljack actually got married in the last episod.
0 likesIn the last episode you can see them walk in together and talking about something that make it seem like they are atleast living togher.
You know that she has a past and i know it the first it was a witch
0 likesCadence was born as pegasus btw since probably got her horn from doing something important from Princess/Queen Celestia
0 likesWhat if Cadence was their child
0 likescadence her kingdom hes fel one time before!!! so it really could be her
0 likeswhat if the unicorn and the earth pony daughter was cadence and also princess cadence is 30 years old :)
0 likesThat must be cadences mother and maybe she thought those spells to cadence
0 likesoh nonononono the official comic had a longggg explanation about Cadence and Shining Armor in fact they loved on first sight AND Twilight was involved in this thing AND DJPon 3 got her CM because of SHINING ARMOR and his band!
0 likesOr maybe that is her mum and dad and before that mum was a Winked at pony and before that celesta broke the spell her mum and dad made her so she has the same power just a thought
0 likesDude pls just listen to this for a second.
0 likesI actually really liked many many of your theories, but now it has to slow down.
The "probably not real" book stuff is actually a pretty good guess.
And I bet if you asked anypony who contributes reality to mlp (You can call them "Hasbro") 98% of them would say " There's a book for that. Read the book." And the other2% forgot the book exists.
I am unsubscribing bc all of your theorys are just getting worse and worse.(I mean its not unreasonable to unscribe because of the fact that I don't care about any more of your videos any longer, but will still watch one if it comes out.)
And completely(kind of) making it all up is also the worst ever.
So here is the closest story to the truth:
In a nutshell, cadence does something to make her the alicorn of love.
She is transported to celestia's place and gets a horn.
(The only ponies we saw that we know what they were before were a unicorn and a born alicorn. They said nothing else in the show and is stupid to assume that only unicorns can become alicorns and the show kind of "confirms" that anypony can become an alicorn if you look closely.)
She is taken in by celestia as her niece.
And you can make up the rest. Because that is not unreasonable.
What happened to that prince though?
0 likesI wish know inglish for understand this incredible channel
1 likeI'd believe it!
0 likesIt could be the mum or a sister
0 likesYeah I think she is their daughter because her parents were affected by the potion
0 likesYeah...i'll pass on this theory
0 likesI like your clover!
1 likeOr maybe twilight snapped cadence out of it
0 likesIsn't there a comic with cadance backstory and she wasn't an alicorn originaly?
0 likesIf she is that princess,what cutie mark did she have back then i wonder.
0 likesCadance was an Pegasus before she became Alihorn
0 likescan you pls do a video about power ponies I mean where where the real power ponies when the mane six went into spikes comic book is it possible that they teleported to Equestria and were the mane six its really fun to image but maybe its not true or were the mane six the power ponies the whole time but we just didnt notice....
0 likesHey can you make a sombra vid pls.
1 likeIts abaut reforming sombra.
I hope you can make a vid abaut it one day.
1:25 Most importantly, WERE THEY RELATED?!?
0 likesDoes anyone have the book? I do
0 likesPlz made a video on that why mistmane hair move as twilight said in extras shorts that only celestia and luna are one with floating mane , I know some would say she is a sourcer so why cadance , star swril mane float and why king Sombrero mane float . Plz made video on this topic and can you shout out my name in next video. Love from india , dehli.
0 likesWhat about blue blood?
0 likesI was just going of magiepony she had a song about candace's backstory
0 likesThere was a song about her background
0 likesme here just wondering if somewhere in equestria there also is a queen because all of them are just princesses ;-;
0 likesOk its not because that's kinda impossible? She is so young that even flurry heart needs to be aside her and not after,so not possible
0 likesWhen cadence was little she was a Pegasus not an alicorn but it's ok anyways
0 likesWhen is your clone gonna appear again
0 likesWhy does Cadence's wings have a faded color but the others are just plain idk about Flurryheart but why them Celestia and Luna have been alicorns longer then her?
0 likesI always wanted you to do this video
0 likesWhat do you think of the new my little pony gen 5
0 likesDude are you gonna theorize about Gen 5????
0 likesWhen is cadences, birthday 🎂🍰
0 likesSo is she bad or good?
0 likesTrue its a god point Cadence iven look like the princess on picture
0 likesWe never sloved how is cadance's dad w and who is the male pony in the pic that can solve this problem
0 likesii cant unsee the stalion being donut joe
0 likesi love it also ur flower
0 likesCadence was started off a pigsty so like Rainbow Dash so I think she would be the pony princess Hearts and Hooves Day
0 likesMaybe that is the mother of cadance
0 likesMaybe that is the mother of cadance
0 likesI don't know what's cadence and I don't know what her middle name is
0 likesCan you talk about g5?
0 likesi think it is the real story
0 likesme who has read the mlp books: BWHAAHAHAHAAAAA
0 likesWhat if the alicorn is celestia or luna
0 likesThey three were born unicorns
0 likesI accept this cannon
0 likesNo one really no one noticed that the princess look like her -_-
0 likesidk if this is by coincidence or if Sawtooth saw my comment lol
0 likesAnother thing is Spike's origins. How did Princess Celestia find his egg. Did his parents give his egg to Princess Celestia. And his parents were in grave danger they had to leave their son behind. So Spike would not hav met the same terrible feat. Could his parents be alive. Could Princess Celestia be Spike's mom or maybe Princess Luna's son. Can you do a video about Spike. Who became Twilight's Royal Advisor. And the Friendship Ambassador. Could Ember and Garble be parents of Spike? Yet there were no recognition from the two about Spike.
0 likesIm joking i like it
0 likesI think that the pic shows princess amore and a pricne
0 likesYesssssssssss
0 likesKhedan is sus
0 likesActually....in crystal heart spell thing, it is said that Cadence was a Pegasus
0 likesUh that was is a love poison. Not potion.
0 likesWow😶
0 likesI thing cadence is there doughter and because she is there doughter she can do similar magic.and because of that love cars they stop takeing care of
0 likescadenece. thats why she is seperaided from her parents. because she run away from her hause. and calestia see the baby cadence. and let her stay in her carsel. when she is a little older then she can babysit the talented gifted unicorn. and calestia make her a alicorn. equestria's first baby alicorn..😘❤❤❤
Mabie that alicorn (daether )and she
0 likesYou just made me sad
0 likesCan you pin meh? Btw your the best!
0 likesPlease redo this theory it doesn't make sense
1 likeUm mlp has so many mysteries
0 likesNo her past is not like that
0 likesNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO
0 likessaw tooth waves the great i have to tell you some thing in sesen 8 last epp are 2 no uni majic is there right well on the third day mjic will go away right then way dose princess celescta still abel to set the sun on the thrid day it makes no snense and the cryisly empire no crisly haert I DONT GET IT PLZ MAKE A VIDEO ABUOT IT!!!!!!
0 likes, love spell more like a hate
1 likeUmm.....sure :/
1 likeUr brony version of matpat
0 likesI think it’s more likely she’s that princesses daughter, a Pegasus who was born with powerful love magic, able to be used despite the lack of a horn. She would’ve been neglected by her parents. Then insert the book here.
1 like🤔🤔🤔😵😵😵
0 likesYes
0 likesYes
0 likesYes
0 likesYes
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0 likesyes
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0 likesYes I think
0 likesYes
1 likeyes
0 likesWate i dink is dat she wned ravench becus she wus sad dat son body did that to her
0 likesAs always, I very much want this to be true. Cadence was given a bit of characterization later on, and in the comics, but an actual backstory that makes her seem more real? Definitely something I want.
1 like(By the way, "Cadance" is a persistent typo. "Cadence" is her real name, and an actual word. You can tell it is the correct version because it comes from her full name, "Mi Amore Cadenza." It's not "Cadanza," it's "Cadenza.")
I always wanted a full episode on Cadence's past and her story, kinda sad we never got to see it happen :c
0 likesSawtooth you’re still not addressing the biggest mystery. How did Cadence become and alicorn if you just need magic from the three tribes?
2 likesThis theory actually could explain a LOT.
0 likesRemember how, in the season 3 premiere, the Crystal Ponies IMMEDIATELY recognized Cadance as The Crystal Princess?
This has always bugged me because we never get an explanation as to how or why that is.
Putting this theory into the mix however, it could give context to something that has been up in the air since season 9 retconned Sombra's comic origin story and puts things in a shocking and sad context.
What if Cadance was the young Princess of the Empire over a thousand years ago and, when that Stallion gave her the Love Poison and she neglected her royal duties, it's what gave Sombra his chance to slink into Empire and take it over and, by the time Cadance was broken free of the Love Poison's effects, it was too late to save the Empire.
How is she still so young when foalsitting Twilight then?
We ARE talking about Sombra here.
Maybe, before Celestia and Luna were able to get to the Empire, Cadance had tried to confront the evil unicorn herself, only to be frozen in Crystal and, during the battle with Sombta, Celestia and Luna’s managed to get her Crystal prison out of the Empire, hence why Cadance wouldn't have vanished along with the Empire.
And by the time Celestia had managed to free Cadance from her Crystal prison, it having kept her from aging, it was Maybe a few years before Twilight would come into Cadance's life.
It would make a lot of sense and explain why Cadance had no second thoughts about taking rule of the Empire once she'd found out it returned.
For her, this meant everypony from her old life were back, exactly as they had been a thousand years ago.
This also would explain why we never saw any issues between Luna and Cadance.
When the two met after Luna’s return, Cadance knew exactly how Luna felt, coming home to a world so drastically changed from what she knew, with nopony from her past but Celestia remaining.
It's pretty damn depressing, when you think about it
I start liking Cadance even more!
2 likesIf you are wondering how Cadance came to being. The books and comic already confirmed that she started off as an orphan pegasus, but became an alicorn after completing a task that made her earn her horn and magic. Plus they also confirmed that she was adopted by Celestia while Luna was still on the moon.
0 likesI didnt even realise this was just a couple hours ago, you've successfully dragged me back into the MLP fandom 👏🏽
0 likesWhat if Cadence cast that spell so Twilight wouldn’t have to see couples arguing, and we only saw it for a few seconds, we don’t know if they tried to talk it out later or if it wore off quickly and the spell just calmed them down. They also might not have known how to sort it out properly, so the spell might have worked until they figured it out.
1 likeAlso the love potion looks ALOT like a mix of Candance's spell with Chrysalis's spell. Candance's spell show a broken heart getting together and makes two ponies who was in a discourse starts being gentle with each other. Chrysali's spell makes the person "hypnotized", making Charming armour dont care about how chrysalis is not Candance, and the way that his eyes looks like when in spell looks like the eyes of Bic Mac and Cheerlie after getting into the love potion. The love potion seems like a more pinkinsh and dependent version of Chrysali's spell.
0 likesConsiderating that we don't know Chrysalis backstory could that be connected to her?? What if she IS the Princess?? Thats why she wants to "eat" love?? I mean she is surelly different conparing to the others changelings, and she is the only changeling to transform into a royalty. She could just have substitued all the princess with her army, and then rule Equestria but she did'nt, unless that the others changelings couldn't do so.
I never even actually realized how the mare in the picture depicted was an alicorn, I always just saw the horn and assumed that she was a unicorn with the stallion being normal, but the videos appearing of the picture jogged my memory and that was the very same drawing-horn and wings included and she very well may be the same alicorn and thank whoever is reading this for reading the full comment.
0 likesWow! I never actually realized the princess in the picture of that book was an alicorn! Very interesting...
1 likeI think that maybe Cadence still has the effects of the love potion and toys to help couples by giving a little bit of the potion to couples with her horn in order to get rid of the potion in total
0 likesTo be a princess we know that you need to figure out a new type of magic which for Cadence was love. Soon after she might’ve been the ruler of A Kingdom possibly The Crystal Empire. And like what happened to The Sisters the kingdom’s ponies (The Magic From The All 3 Tribes) if they were Crystal Ponies in The Crystal Empire this might have not worked since The Crystal Ponies are Crystal Ponies. But if along with The Crystal Ponies were Celestia & Luna this might have worked The Magic from the Royal Sisters have The Magic From The All 3 Tribes
2 likesBut then she was betrayed by the one she loved and possibly that might have gotten her defeated and gave the ruling to King Sombra.
Since The Royal Sisters stopped King Sombra they might’ve helped Cadence as well. Celestia & Luna might’ve recommended her to be foal sitter and that’s possibly how she met Shining Armor and then The Royal Wedding happened. And then she became the ruler of The Crystal Empire
Wow. That is amazing :o
0 likesŁał. To jest niesamowite :o
1. Their manes are very different. 2. Hearts and Hooves day was created long ago and most of the things that were said to have happened "long ago" is like 1,000s of years ago. 3. Royal crowns never really change and Cadence and that other Alicorn have 2 different crowns.
1 likeShe could've shown the prince that she could do this and the prince wanted to give it a try. Since he was not a unicorn, he made a potion to give to her so that she didn't use the spell on someone else. When it failed and left a kingdom to ruin, she decided that she would never do something like this again or show someone how to do it.
0 likesAnother Theory: Let's assume that Cadence is indeed the Princess from the story. Since she is known as, "the princess of love for one's partner" she could indeed be this princess. Since the previous kingdom fell to ruin, she could've left him (or been saved by someone else), and fell in love with Shining Armor.
I honestly never even realized that the Princess in the love potion story was an alicorn till now. I just never noticed the wing and I've never seen anyone talk about her being an alicorn.
0 likesI think the prince and alicorn princess from the Hearts & Hooves day story were actually her parents. When you compare how Cadance looks around the time of the wedding, they share that short in front but long in back mane. The prince actually has more than one color in his mane if that stripe in his back neck portion is anything to go off. Even if it might be just two colors... “A long time ago, “ seems to be less than 1000 years given how ponies tend to use that measurement of time so often.
0 likesOkay, covering the basis. Who; an earth pony prince (no wings or horn) fell in love with an alicorn princess of either the same kingdom or a different one. What; he was so desperate that he whipped up what he thought was a love potions for them to drink, but it turned out to be a love poison. He might have been a shaman, like Zecora but less experienced, who earned his title through accomplishment rather than bloodline. They got so lost in each other's eyes that they stopped performing their royal duties. A dragon destroyed the kingdom or something like that.
The only way to break the spell was to get them from looking into the other’s eyes for a full hour. Given how strong Big Mac was in the episode involving the poison, you can imagine how strong these royals were that no one could get them apart without great effort. Their kingdom could have been isolated enough that Princess Celestia didn’t step in. Anyway, how does this connect to our current Princess of Love? Elementary.
Let’s say these two were so sickeningly in love from the poison they rarely left each other’s side. If they ruled the kingdom or at least defended it together, then it would make partial sense for them to do some type of decree to not be separated. Alicorns are shown to live long lives if not forever, on this logic these two could have been together for years. The only situation where they are no longer looking into each other’s eyes and probably well after the kingdom fell is if the alicorn became pregnant.
What if during the birth when the spell finally broke the stallion who’s probably well past his prime dies. Some might ask how could he suddenly pass on without the poison. Well, we have seen from the MLP show that emotions are a very powerful form of energy. Change Kings feed of it, a literal shield of the emotion sent them flying, hopelessness affected an entire community, and Starlight’s anger broke out after she kept bottling it up (literally and metaphorically.)
The alicorn princess now without the one she was with for so long and a foal, is left with a deeply broken heart. It was never clarified if she reciprocated the love this prince had... But, spend long enough with somebody and you can’t help caring for them. Let us say she tries to be strong for the foal yet as the weeks pass she continues losing her strength. Ultimately, she can feel that she is going to pass from a broken heart so she finds a nearby village to take her foal.
Hoping for the child to have a better future than the prince and her, she doesn’t leave a note. The child is later found and raised in the town of Earth ponies. It does take a few leaps in logic, but people can actually die from a broken heart so imagine how bad it is in a place like Equestria. The foal inherits a gift for love magic that only works on ponies who are actually in love as an odd gift from the poison wearing off. I would like to think Cadance was born around twenty to thirty years before Luna returned as Nightmare Moon.
I agree with most of the comment section. I believe that those two ponies were actually her parents. It does seem to line up extremely well. Imagine this:
0 likesThe Crystal Empire was being ruled over by the Prince, the Princess, or both. The Prince had a deep-seated love for the Princess, but she didn't reciprocate his feelings (after all, why give a love potion to someone who already loves you?). So, in a desperate effort to have the Princess as his, the Prince created the love potion. However, the potion turned out much stronger than intended, and over time the ruler of the Crystal Empire stopped really caring about their kingdom. The couple barely noticed though, and very quickly got married, and soon after also had a daughter, who they named Mi Amore Cadenza, which roughly means 'My love, Cadence' in Spanish. A fitting name for the daughter of a couple that was so very in love, right? Well, the birth of the princess also attracted some... unwanted attention. A unicorn by the name of Sombra, who had gained a large amount of power, found out about the Empire and the fact that its rulers were so caught up in eachother and their daughter that they were completely neglecting all of their duties. Sombra, taking his chance, quickly invaded and started taking over. The couple, again, barely even noticed at first because they were so caught up in eachother, but eventually Sombra took over enough to where they did start to notice. Neither of the two had any ability to fight however, so instead they ran. They didn't make it very far though, and I honestly don't think it would be too far-fetched for Sombra to have either imprisoned the two or even outright killed them. Before he did either though, one of the two lovebirds, most likely the Princess, used a spell to teleport their daughter (and maybe also the Prince?) to safety, maybe even outside of the Empire. What happened to Cadence afterwards is anyone's guess, I think either she was found by Celestia and Luna or her mother also teleported her father out and they made a new life together once the potion wore off (or maybe he disowned her?).
But yeah, that's my take. I think it does fit, since we don't know who Sombra originally took the Empire from, and Celestia's first instinct when she was told the Empire had returned was to have someone alert Cadence, implying that there's a connection between the two that Celestia was aware of.
Cadance is the definition of knowing everything but also knowing nothing
0 likesIt would be interesting if Cadence was their daughter and the kingdom that fell was actually The Empire... I just don't know how well it would fit into time lines...?
1 likeWhen I saw the hearts and hooves day book in the intro I gasped so loud!!! GREAT VIDEO!!!! ❤️♥️
0 likesDo more things like this sawtooth :)
0 likesI think cadence may be the child of the ponies under the spell. that would explain the “long time ago” while also explaining why she has the power to spread love.
0 likesI don’t think she is because when she use the love magic for the first time she looked younger than the actual picture of the love story, and if you’re going with the book she was found as a baby , so either the book wrong or your theory is wrong. Still love it thou💜
1 likeI think Cadence is only slightly older than Twilight judging by her appearance during the scenes of her being Twi's sitter. Compare that look to how she is now. Then compare Season 1 Twilight to Season 9 Twilight. Even she looks taller and slimmer. And I'm not talking about the final episode. We know she had a growth spurt in that... lol
1 likeWhat if she is the daughter of the alicorn in the story?
0 likesHere is my theory: She was born when the spell or the effect of the posion was still strong, that's why she "inherited" the magic of "love" that is so similar to the posion. When celestia or whoever broke the spell, Cadance went with her to recover from the trauma that she experienced.
This theory is interesting, but Cadance's backstory was already given in the book "Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell" (though its canonality is debatable given parts of season three that it ignores).
0 likesThat story could make sense in the larger scheme of things, but Cadence could also have something to do with the love spell that Twilight put on her doll.
0 likesOhhh my goodness this works sooo well!!!!
0 likesYou scare me sometimes and I flipping love it. Ps I think its easier for her to be the daughter of that princess rather than being the princess herself
0 likesIf Cadance and the princess in the book were the same pony then I think the book would have said so, unless the fact that she nearly doomed her kingdom was being covered up. Also if Cadance was around back then she would likely be centuries old depending on when Hearts And Hooves Day started, and yet there is a clear age difference back when she was foalsitting Twilight which was presumably around a decade ago.
0 likes... What about Twilight's babysitting?
0 likesDo you think Cadence would've influenced Twilight to be her friend in some way?! As for me I certainly hope not... I had become close with Twilight back then on my own, when she was having me as her guard, but I don't want to have to hear about something like that. 😨
Now I'm a little too worried.
this might sound a bit strange, but what if it wasn't cadence who suffered that tragic fate, but her possible mother? what if she was the fruit of that love provoked by the potion and she inherited some magic related to love?
0 likesThis is how I think it would have gone, I stated my reasons in a previous comment which I accidently deleted. But I'll throw in the important stuff here. I think that Cadence was the daughter of the alicorn in the Hearts and Hooves day story (I think Isolde suits her)
0 likesReason 1. Age. Although like you said the story was vague with the timeline. I'd have to guess that the story but be at least 500 to 1000 years old and although we don't know his age- wait (frantic google searching) As far as I know we don't know his age but I doubt that he is centuries old. Though even if Cadance was Isolde's daughter she would still be 100s of years old but maybe alicorns age slower..? I guess but it's still not solid ground to stand on that would suggest either theories but I still wanted to bring it up.
Reason 2. Storytime. If Cadance was Isolde why and how would she have the same love magic as the prince? Sure you could ague that she learned it or was always fascinated by that branch of magic but I think that's too simple and vague. Soiler. Voldemort from Harry Potter was born out of a love potion a one sided love without 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 love so he was born incapable of loving and turned out to be a heartless killer because of it. Spoiler. Rapunzel from Disney was born after her mother ate a magic flower which gave her magic powers. I think you see where I'm going with this. After Isolde drank the love potion and fell into a false love or as J.K. says, an obsession, she had Cadence who wasn't able to love anyone or if you want to make it more tragic can only love her parents who are to busy being obsessed with each other to care for her. But she can controll other people's love which she does irresponsibly when she's young to try and have some control in her life.
Reason 3. I don't have a reason 3 that I can remember. It's late my brain hurts I've been here for hours send help.
This took me almost three hours to think of and type out then half of it got deleted so I hope you enjoy.
Isolde was the most beautiful pony in all of Equestria and many a stallion wanted her hoof in marriage. She was a princess and alicorn. She turned them all down. She swore not to fall in love as her mother, Etain, had fallen in an out of love with many different suiters going through much heartbreak. Isolde promised herself that no stallion would ever get the better of her. One day Etain and Isolde went out to the kingdom of Cozbi to secure diplomatic relations. Normally Etain went by herself but aparrently there was a prince Isolde's age and them going could benefit both kingdoms. Isolde agreed- reluctantly as she knew arguing with her mother wouldn't end well. When they arrived they were led into a fancy hall with dim lighting and a single candle lit table with two chairs sat in the centre. 'I don't know what I was expecting' Isolde thought as Etain left. The prince sat at the first of the chairs and smiled at her. It wasn't a creepy smile, Isolde found it charming. She smiled back and started to pull the chair out but the prince got there first. 'Thank you' she said. 'What's your name?' 'Amir.' They chatted, ate, danced and laughed for hours and when Amir said that that night had been a blast and he really enjoyed Isolde's company and if she would be his. When Isolde rejected him saying that she only saw him as a friend. He sighed and said 'I understand but would you atleast have a drink with me? To a good friendship!' He took out a bottle intricately decorated with swirls and hearts and lines that looked like words but must've been in another language as Isolde couldn't read them. He poured them a goblet each and before they drank Isolde repeated 'To a good friendship.' Some time past. Isolde didn't know how much time but she did know that it was time spent with Amir and that's all she needed to know. Before long they got married and had a daughter called Cadence. Cadence was special, she was born without love and therefor she couldn't love. The weird thing about her though is that she could still manipulate the love of others. Though try as she might she could not make her parents love her as she wanted and deserved and the sad thing was they were the only ponies that she seemed to love. Isolde didn't spend much time with Cadence nor pay her much attention. As far as she was concerned the only thing that mattered was Amir and how lucky she was that they met. Soon Celestia heard rumors of a kingdom that falling into ruin as result of neglect from it's rulers. But when she arrived she realised that it was much more serious than negligence. She came into the throne room to see a 7 year-old Cadence trying to catch the attention of her parents as they stared into eachothers eyes, not knowing nor caring that their kingdom was falling into ruin and chaos by their hooves. Celestia recognised the dark magic immediately and tried to pull them apart and save them from the spell but they had been under the curse of forced love for to long and it had become unbreakable. With a heavy heart Celestia turned her back on the false couple and took little Cadence under her wing and back to Canterlot where with many trials and tribulations she managed to cure Cadance from her curse too.
As for the townsponies of Cozbi, Celestia sent them to the up and coming town of Mainhattan.
I also think it would be cool for Flurry Heart to go back to see her grandparents and break the curse. I can imagine Cadence forbidding her from going but that not stopping anyway and then after they have a mother-daughter moment that super sweet and nice and stuff.
I like the theory, but I have evidence that suggests she was turned to an alicorn by Celestia. In the episode "Three's a Crowd", Cadence tells Twighlight she herself was still getting the hang of flying. This suggests she was once a unicorn, like Twighlight. Maybe she was just in the love spell for so long she had to relearn flight? You choose what to believe.
0 likesi think your right but i also think she actually got some side effect from that potion so when she found out that she used it to save already build relationships and she become an alicorn bc of that
0 likesIf this is true, imagine if King Sombra was the prince. We know pretty much nothing about why he's the way he is. If Cadence was around when King Sombra was or something, and they were pulled apart by Celestia, if Sombra had made the love potion it could've had a effect on him making him hungry for love something. Especially considering he goes after the crystal heart and empire, and both ponies came from there, and both were royal. As it is shown that Alison's are made by earning other tribe's magics (most likely), Sombra could've became a unicorn by making the potion ; it works really similar to unicorn magic, so it could've effected him.
0 likesI always thought it was her or somebody else don't ask me why but I've always thought it was a lost princess in Equestria somewhere just in hiding here's what I think is Princess Cadence that book you showed us really looks like her Plus when she was about Twilight was learning like she was before Twilight afford her friends before the elements of harmony there was a princess long time ago you live in a far Kingdom there was a princess in training who was that young and beautiful girl not far away lived another kingdom an in that Kingdom chat at the Prince both kingdoms do the king and queen the prince and princess 2 in love but they did not want both of the prince and princess cast under your spell because one of the king or queen asked a witch where unicorn to cast a spell on them Witcher agreed and she did it with a price the whip the Unicorn says that first child that your daughter has will be mine the king and queen agreed Princess Celestia broke them apart and help Princess Cadence Victor fell apart and move decadence to school for gifted unicorns far from your home
0 likesSo what you're saying is that Flurry Heart actually is a hellspawn because of Cadence being her mother and not just because she was born an alicorn.
0 likesHe needs to do a video about Generation 5!
1 likeA long time ago? I'd say 1000 years is a pretty long time.. What if the kingdom that fell was the crystal empire? She was distracted and couldn't have known king sombra was planning to invade. When she snapped out of it one way or another, maybe she called for celestia's help?
0 likesGood point! I think your theory is true but I have one thing to add to it; what if that love potion was how she got her cutie mark???
0 likesNah. Even as an alicorn there is no way that the princess from the story and Cadence are the same. I know alicorns age slower than other ponies, but the holiday is much older than that.
0 likesBut it was an interesting theory on her origin.
My idea is they have to love and or care about each other for her spell to work and the love potion is what gave her her powers to spread love
0 likesMy siblings and I went to a lot of trouble to get a pink dragon egg for a pink princess. I suppose now we need to find a crystal dragon egg for her.
0 likesI have a theory that the princesses represent the four loves twilight for friendship love the two sisters as family love Cadence as romantic love and I feel like flurry heart is unconditional love
0 likesI think that Cadence turned into an alicorn because she sucked up all the magic of the ponies. Think about it if she was a foal sitter then she must have foal sitted many ponies not just Twilight.
1 likeI think that the king and queen had cadence and Celestia saved her from her lovestruck parents. And her power was an effect of the postion.
0 likesThere is a song known as princess cadence backstory you can get it in YouTube it has a little bit of information and it was from lauren's book
0 likesMy theory is that Kaiden‘s mum was the victim of that spell
1 likeBy the way I’m sorry for any spelling errors
I think Cadence's mother was the one we saw in that book
0 likesThat is why cadence is the Princess of love
Since they’re the same exact magic that means cadence might’ve been the one who gave the spell to the prince to give to the princess plot twist so yeah that’s what I think bye🧁🍡🐋🐆
0 likesMaybe Cadence was the daughter of that alicorn, but unlike Flurry she wasn’t born an alicorn, but she became one by saving her mother with love. Hints why Flurry is a alicorn, she had two and possibly more alicorn ancestors.
0 likesThanks for posting this on my birthday today, Sawtooth!!
0 likesI agree a lot with the daughter theory I’m seeing in the comments. But one thing that I’m still thinking about is the fact that cadence wasn’t born an Alicorn (at least I’m pretty sure) could anyone find a way that makes this fit still?
0 likesNo. At the very least we can say Cadence was roughly a teenager when she looked after Twilight. We can guess that Celestia and Luna must have had another sibling since Blueblood is a distant nephew of there's. Cadence has called Celestia aunt so perhaps she is also a distant descendent to the royal sisters mystery sibling. Who knows maybe the alicorn princess in the story was that mystery sibling.
0 likesMy one arguement aganst this is that Candance looks suspisusly younger in the flashback. If the hoof day episode made it seem like that event was ages ago, yet cadence is young. I would say it’s more likely Cadance was a descendent of the ones who had the love poison, thus the magic that brought her into the world would be in her
0 likesI'm assuming that that alicorn princess in the legend of H&H Day isn't Cadance. That story is probably centuries old and Cadance seems to be 15ish years older than Twilight considering she has the standard adult mare body type while Twilight was a filly. It could be one of her ancestors or else it goes along with my headcanon that alicorns used to be very common back when Celestia and Luna started ruling but died out or just left Equestria.
0 likesI think Cadance is immortal in a different way from Celestia and Luna. Both Crystal Princess and Princess from potion book are Cadance, but another incarnation from centuries ago. She grow old, die, then gets reincarnated again, and again, and again.
0 likeswhat about her connection to the crystal empire!? and the crystal heart? what about flurry heart? I feel like flurry would have a similar connection
1 likeSo much of the princesses past are left unknown. So there are a lot of possibilities.
0 likesWhile I do like this theory, there isn’t a lot of evidence to back it up. First we don’t know exactly when the story took place. It could’ve happened before Cadence was ever born. Cadence also looks like a teen in Twilight’s flashback and to me the ponies in the story looked like adults. Even though they act in the same way, I dont think the love potion would’ve granted those abilities. We saw how Cheerilee and Big Mac acted when they were released. Nothing changed about them physically. The potion didn’t seem to alter them after it was broken. Granted they were Earth Ponies and not Alicorns so it’s not out of the realm of possibility that it would affect Alicorns different, but I don’t think that would be the case. A lot about Cadence is unknown but I don’t think she’s the pony in the story.
0 likesHere is an Idea for a video. I was thinking about the song "Midnight in me" when I thought about how she turned into a more powerful version of her self. Then I thought about nightmare moon and Day breaker. Also if Twilight in the human world can turn into Midnight Sparkle then can Celestia in the human world turn into Day breaker? What about Luna? Also Sunset shimmer wasn't an alcorn...Dose that mean that (with enough power) every poney in Equestria could turn into a version of them selves that is more powerful then Celestia herself? Ok that's it.
1 likeWhat if Cadance was the daughter of that couple, and became an alicorn after breaking their spell?
0 likesIs it possible then that Sombra was the one who created the potion and after breaking the spell he was claimed by darkness , got a horn and enslaved crystal empire?
1 likeWhat if Cadence was born from that love potion? What if her mother gave birth out of wedlock? That could potentially destroy a nation. Since we know nothing about her parents officially, what if her mom died?
0 likesI think it could’ve been her ancestors spell and she found a way to modify it with Alicorn magic do it wasn’t as strong
0 likesIf you think about it, there are only so many ponies the story could be about. Even if those were Cadance's parents or grandparents, the alicorn would still be alive, right? And I think we would have noticed another alicorn running around. I'd ordinarily just say it was a fable, but the love potion is very much real. Cadance is the most likely candidate, if you think about it.
0 likesthat is nice but one thing, they never said anything about cadence's kingdom being destroyed, or her even having a kingdom, so how do we know it's her?
0 likeswhat I think may have happened is, cadence cast the love spell on the king and queen, to try to bring them together, but when she saw how it affected the kingdom, she ran away and started a new life, trying to make up for what she did, by using the spell, again and again, to convince her that it was just a random accident and that her powers were good, and not evil. tell me if you guys like this idea! :D I am a forever follower of sawtooth.
It can't be possible that it was her because in the last season twighly has become a full grown aliform and her friends were still alive so if that goes for every alicorn then that won't be possible for cadence
1 likeI really like that. But Yeah what if they are her parents and they're overpowering "fake love" gave sombra the opening he wanted to take over the crystal empire. And cadence's magic is similar to the potion because it affected her through her mother giving birth.
1 likeMaybe sombra loved cadence's mom and was like the only earth pony obsessed with magic and did the kind of magic he could: potions. Made love potion and cadence was born but the spell broke and something happened to her (killed idk) and sombra took over and celestia and Luna rescued cadence and defeated sombra and raised cadence preparing her for retaking the empire once it reappeared, we just didn't see it.
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And like the dark magic gave him his weird curvey horn like stigion and his shadow wings
0 likesWhen cadence was putting the spell to the two ponies she had wings
0 likes4:01 I'm gonna be THAT guy here, because this really, really freaking bugs me.
0 likesCadance became Twilight's babysitter BEFORE Twilight went to Celestia's school.
She doesn't have her Cutie Mark in ANY of the flashbacks involving when she was a filly and Cadance foalsat her and we've known from season 1 that Twilight didn't get her Cutie Mark til AFTER she joined Celestia's school.
I still, to this day, do not understand why so many people overlook this fact and assume it was Twilight being in Celestia's school that was the ONLY reason Cadance ended up foalsitting Twilight.
Even when I first entered the fandom in 2014, when I was at my most oblivious of how the show was structured, that fact clicked from the first instant I saw A Canterlot Wedding.
I actually think that the pony who the prince used the potion on was princess amore, which was the former ruler of the crystal empire before sombra and cadence. Maybe these two ponies are cadence's parents and that would explain why she does the spell on those ponies, because the potion's magic got in her dna. Idk i just thought this was a good theory :/
0 likesThey should have given us a clue or hint o that would help us uncover Cadance's CANON backstory.
0 likesI think that alicorn was cadence's aunt and that male pony, came to the crystal empire, so he could marry someone he loved, once he found her, and got to know her he wanted to marry her, but she had to marry a prince so her kingdom would survive a famine. (Celestia and Luna would have helped them more, but they just became rulers and had to fix their kingdom's problems. When the male pony found out, he had mixed feelings, and that drove him, to make the love potion. Once he had married her, he had blue blood. And you know the kingdom was struggling When the princess's parents found out, they strip her and him of their power, magic, and title. And when the other kingdom found out, about the princes not marrying the prince, they felt betrayed and tried to kill blue blood and his parents, until blue blood's grandparents give the option that your son could marry their 19-year-old. And they agreed because the 19- year- old's magic was more powerful than her older sister, and she could produce more powerful heirs. And I'm pretty sure you can tell where this thing is going to, that the 19-year-old married the prince got and got cadence. Now back to cadence's aunt and uncle and Celestia and luna, they were able to separate them and asked where are their powers, the parents said they put the powers in two heart-shaped gems. Celestia and luna then use their powerful powers and make it into one heart-shaped germ that uses both blue blood parent's powers. Now on to Sombra, he attacks the empire because of A. He wants the crystals to become wealthier and it is an assist to him. B He wants to conquer the other kingdoms, and the empire somehow has a lot of good resources. And I think he could kill blue blood's parents and grandparents and cadence's parents. He makes the empire disappear because he wants no one to try and take over. Now back to the sisters, their plan was to free the citizens, but failed, the only ones they could save were blue blood and cadence. And they trained blue blood and cadence hoping that both of them would reclaim the empire.
0 likesThe potion makes the eyes of the drinkers go purple and cadenza's eyes are purple maybe that's the side effect of what happened to her that long ago?
0 likesShe feels too young to be the one in the spell
0 likesWow wow WOW! THE CRYSTAL EMPIRE FELL WHICH OF COURSE COULD'VE BEEN THE SAME BECAUSE WHEN CADENCE SWOOPS IN WITH THE CRYATAL HEART THE WOMEN ANNOUCES THE CRYSTAL QUEEN WHICH MEANS SHE USED TO BE IT WHICH MEANS CADANCE CAN VERY WELL BE THE SAME! ALSO WHAT DOES KING SOMBERA HATE MOST? LOVE SO ONCE IT FELL HE CAME!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE LIKE!
1 likeWhile your theory is a good one, I actually consider that the backstory for Chrysalis and not Cadense.
0 likesThis is a LOVELY theory!
0 likesme: (sees a horse that looks like big Mac)
0 likesalso me: hold up
I'm willing to speculate that thr princess could be an ancestor of Cadence, but I don't think it's her.
1 likeyour voice is so wholesome 😌🤩👌
0 likesNooo you got it wrong when twilight said case your spell at the wedding that was the same spell!!! I love your channel ❤️
0 likesIf that’s true that would explain why flurry heart was born a alicorn too
1 likei have a question about Zakaora. Idk if u have made a vid on this but what’s with her “cutie mark” kinda thing. because as i have heard from twilight, only ponies get cutie marks that she knows of...
1 likeSawtooth waves: so what if I told you her story was in front of us the hole time
0 likesMe: I'd walk away slowly call 911 and have sent to a medical office
I think the pony in Hearts and Hooves day is caidence's mother because mabey she gained powers from the love potion that the mare in the book drank
0 likesMaybe the alicorn from hearts and hooves day is her mom
1 likeCadance is about as old as shining armor = there is no way she is that other love-potion princess
1 likeI agree with you a lot! ❤🥺
0 likesI KNEW THE HEARTS N HOOVES ILLUSTRATION LOOKED LIKE HER- also I love your lil shamrock :)
0 likesWhat if it was prince blueblood, might explain why he always wants to get his way but not put any actual work into it.
0 likesTwo questions and one comment
0 likesIs Twilight's mom the Twilight from Gen 1
Where is human Sunset
And this theory is great
Well we don't know who cancels parents is so I believe like the 2 ponies he felt so madly in love I believe that cadences their child That was little hints I might want to note😊
0 likesI now pronounce you Mare and Colt. So obviously Celestia looks at Cadance as being considered adult in her eyes while Shining is still a kid.
0 likesLove u put plz upload more or make longer vids ❤️
0 likesWhat if the Alcorn is Cadance‘s mom?
0 likesIt this give a more fulfilling backstory to a princess Candience backstory which has always been very vague rather going by canon in the t.v. series,or supplemental cannon with the books and comic nice gumshoe detective work SawTooth Waves...
0 likesI think the only reason that story's princess is an alicorn is because being an alicorn is what makes a pony a princess, both terms are interchangeable in the MLP:FIM world.
0 likesMabye she used the love potion beacuse she was affected by it and it never left her and after some time she found out how to control it. After all if this is true she would have been the first pony to be affected by this potion beacuse the prince would have whipped it up for her. And mabye thats how she got her cutie mark????? I still have some thinking to do on this.
0 likesin the picture of the to ponies from hearts and hooves day it could be possible that mabye the 2 ponies where cadences parents. think about it, the love potion was the original and probably more powerfull, plus, the spell was cast by a potion and not a horn or mabye we can switch it up a little, if those 2 ponies where cadences parents an they fell in love cuz of the potion, than mabye the magic from the love potion went down to their doughter that actually makes sense but then there's something eles in the way, if those ponies where cadences parents than cadence would have learned from expireince the terrable effects of making people fall in love with magic or possibly not from expireince, cuz like you said, the timeline is super blurry. so mabye cadence never new her parents, here's how it could be. cadences parents fell in love over a potion and it coused their kingdoms to fall apart. they had a magical baby with special powers to make people fall in love. somehow the family got seperated and grew up thinking that she can make the world a better place by easily making ponies fall in love, but then she learned that's not how love works when she started to care for twilight or when she found love with shining armor allowing her to grow into the leader she is today
0 likesPlease- PLEASE explain how PRINCE BLUEBLOOD IS Celestias NEPHEW.
0 likesI think that Cadence is not the pony in the love potion book cause the drawing looked like old pony-ish or centuries ago
0 likesWhat if princess amora and the prince had a baby but the kingdom fell and celestia saved cadence as a baby
0 likesAbout the 2 pony in the beginning, where are there even in a relationship or were they brothers and sisters? For two people yes talking about sharing the bank account. And the problems with it.
0 likesIf you nocited all princesses have there own kingdom
0 likesCelestia and Luna:Canterlot
Cadence:Crystal Empire
Twilght:ponyvlie
Furry heart:The mall
Dan you do a the theory about what about the Dazzlings were reformed?
1 likeking Sombra could it be the prince of the story, when celestia separated cadence and sombra, sombra got into despair and that's how he found the alicorn emulate, probably that's how Sombra turning to king Sombra and how he told me to bad unicorn. Was whatever Luna had? Because Luna when she was turning into nightmare moon, a smokey black smoke probably found her, and that's a problem, nightmare moon Luna and king Sombra. Probably are relate and is related to king Sombra which in the past he used to be the prince of the Land, And What lands exactly the crystal empire. What's related to cadence, the crystal empire She is the princess of the crystal empire.
0 likesThis just pop into my mind
Hey Sawtooth waves hope you're having a nice day 😊, This was just a little theory of mine that goes perfectly with this video hope you like it
What if cadence is the daughter or ancestor of the princess and the potion dna passed down into her magic o^o
0 likesI think that cadance might be the maire in the picture but what about the stallion I think the stallion in the picture is the earth pony prince
0 likesYou must head to her channel and Forester to watch this video because I think it'd be cool
0 likesi think the Prince and Princess got married and born cadence but the love spell make her like this so she might have a love spell that was born in her horn 😐
0 likesthen celestia separated the Princess and Prince took cadence and boom she never remember and she still got the love spell horn magic
but people said she was a pegasus she fight a big evil monster and got turn into and alicorn
I love your videos
0 likesQueen chrysalis is that princess, Think about it.
0 likesQueen chrysalis is a changeling with Wings and a horn, my theory is that after when the prince died she became unhinged and crazy causing her to mutate, into the sus bug pone we all love today
is anybody else thinking what i am.. KING SOMBRA AND CADENCES MOTHER WHICH IS WHY SHE WENT BACK TO THE CRYSTAL EMPIRE
1 likeSo to answer your question from your previous video, yes. You SHOULD fear for your life.
0 likesI didn't think that alicorn was cadence, because I read (I don't remember where) of that alicorn was an error animation
0 likesI think there something to the theory, but I don’t think she is that alicorn. I think she might be their daughter.
0 likesWhat if it was cadences parents? I mean that wouldn’t make sense cause if the book~ but the love spell could have somehow dropped into genetics and that why cadence had that spell? Idk~ it could be totally wrong but I can’t help think genetics have something to do with it 😅
0 likesGreat theory!
0 likesOk it's rude but here me out ... What if that "prince" was a changeling before there redemption
0 likesmaybe that's how the crystal empire fell, the love poison stuff from the H&HD episode
0 likesidk man lol
Well I like this theory but I think that maybe Cadence isn't the princess but what if they had a child and she is that child and this is stretch but what if the princess is Celestia's second sister and that is why princess Celestia has a nephew and yes that means I'm saying princess Cadence is the sister of princess Celestia's nephew
0 likesYou should so what ifs, like if something different happened it will affect something else.
0 likes… he missed the fact she cold marry the prince... age
0 likesI looked up '' how to beat '' and this poped up-
0 likesOk I like the theory but listen here remeber when it said the prince and princess couldn’t perform there roduties I T ThAt THIS IS THE REASON SOMBRE TOOK OVER AND THE two ponies were her Parents twilight and the crystal heart spell could still fit in the show
0 likesWho else likes the song at the end
0 likesI have a question
0 likesWho is telling us the story??
I think that's cadences mom
1 likecadance could be the child of those two
1 likeIf anything, she is the child of the prince and princess. Would make sense for the love potion to be absorbed into a developing baby.
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1 likeNah, I think you're right. I just know you are.
0 likesHow could it be Cadence malicorne was all grown up I know Cadence got her horn when she was a fairy that's the last day of school but Cadence is probably not you know that you know she wow Alcorn is grown up Hearts and Hooves Day was 100 years old oneys could do that unicorns too old Cadence I don't know how she act that magic I've seen all the seasons except season 9 which I'm going to see
0 likesOof! Majorly awesome theory.
0 likesprincess stargloom is pretty
0 likesOne question.... Who is sweetie bells parents? How about scootalo too?? Its sonething that ive been wondering about
0 likesI had the theory she was the daughter instead(like some others) too...
0 likesI figured this makes more sense too. Because that would explain why she did not need to make a potion 🧪, and she is extremely young (like a teenager) as “Twilights foul sitter”.
... P. S. Then I forgot that “the birth of alicorns was a mystery even to Celesta & Luna, but that might have been a white lie diversion too not traumatize the moment FlurryHearts birth to Cadence & company, and ruin the unique/uncanny celebration...
especially of the Royal Crystaling 👑 which I almost forgot about!
Also, this is the second official unnamed directly alicorn we are referred to I did not notice until season’s later, considering the unnamed alicorn on the treasure door of the episode “Stranger Than Fan-fiction”!... (even DaringDo almost missed this!)...
So just how manny or much of alicorn society & others are even we missing or missed?!?!?... You got a good catch!!!🏅
ITS BOUT FRIGGIN TIME
0 likesThen who is the prince?
0 likesDA KING IS BACKKKK
1 likeSAVE THIS FOR A SAD ONE DuDE! THE MUSIC KINDA SOUnDED SAD! calms down Sorry I overreacted 😅🥰😍😘
0 likesWait, why is Yoshi missing?
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In the outro?
0 likesBut it could be her mother cause we don’t know 0_0
0 likesshes da daughter ofc, because she has da magic of love and her mom got hipno with it soo yaaaaaaa
0 likesI thought those 2 ponies were her parents-
0 likesI like the clover for st paties day but its next week on wendsday
0 likesWhy are you wearing a four leaf clover? 🍀
0 likesSawtooth waves have a question for you I now at the end it doesn't show enemy of the mane six's kid because we now that Twilight was married to fash
0 likesStill not realizing wut G5 looks like? Dude u gotta do a video about it
0 likesI think cadence is there daughter
0 likesYAY NICE JOB
0 likesim guessing that cadance was a teen or older then she met a boy pony who liked here so he maid the love potion and gave it to her then they fell in love then their kingtom fell the princess heard this and turned the princess into a baby and raised her as her neace sorry this is just what i thought happend
0 likesCadence is best princess
0 likesIs that pony in the story her mom ???????? Cause we don’t know about Princesse Cadence mom or dad
0 likesI like it
0 likesi like the clover
0 likesI think what you say is true because how did then she got here mark?
0 likesFor everyone who watches mad munchkin
0 likesHey umm...... There was fanfic that her mother is a alicorn too and her name is princess amore... But idk 😐
0 likesHow does the incident with prisma fit in
0 likesWhat about princess Aurora
0 likesI don't know it sounds like you're right
0 likesWow
0 likesSyannax and Farefallen
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0 likesAmazing work! I really appreciate the effort you put into creating depth to the characters we wish we could have seen more of! I can't wait for more of your content! Really gives me something to look forward to!! <3
1 likeI love this take because it implies that in Equestria (a land not as plagued by amatonormativity as Earth), the dangers of romantic love are more openly acknowledged. Cadence growing through romantically-induced trauma into a mare capable of a mutually supportive healthy relationship and eventual mother is a really nice arc to think about.
1 likeI’m so glad someone finally pointed out what was wrong with what she did to that couple. I remember rewatching that scene when I was older and wondering if she trapped one of those ponies in a toxic relationship and forced them to suffer even longer. This is a super interesting theory!
0 likesI always saw that scene as Twilight remembering it wrong, for some reason. Perhaps something similar happened, but because she was so young she only remembers that there was a couple fighting and Cadence used her magic to help them to stop. I agree that it's really coincidental that her spell and the love poison from the hearts and hooves day episode appear so similarly, but to me that just appeared to be a similarity between magic more than anything else. I always accepted the idea that Cadence was a Pegasus before becoming an Alicorn, but couldn't ever really pinpoint an exact idea for her backstory.
0 likesI actually kind of like the idea of this, but it leaves me with questions wondering who the stallion was and what Kingdom he ruled.
1 likeThis instantly made me think of King Sombra. I don't remember if he was born a unicorn or and alicorn or whatever because I can't remember the lore, but it kind of left me with a theory that the Kingdom he ruled was this Crystal Empire and the alicorn he fell in love with was Cadence. Suppose that during this time Sombra and Cadance are both young adults, Sombra rules a kingdom by himself and Cadance was just turned into an alicorn recently after discovering love and its mgaic.
Celestia is known to put her problems on other ponies cough*Twilight*cough but since Twilight would have been a filly back then and was no where near ready to be a Princess I imagine she'd ask Cadance for a lot of help(since Luna would be on the moon.) Say she needs Cadance to visit Neighboring Kindgoms while she attended to her royal duties in Canterlot, Cadance would oblige.
So Cadence goes and visits all the neighbouring kingdoms when she comes upon the Crystal Empire. The gaurd notices that she is a Princess and brings her in to talk to Sombra and immediately he falls for her. While he talks to her about equestrian politics in the back if his mind he's wondering how they'll meet again and if he can keep talking to her.
(This next part might be me being lazy so uh- bare with me) Just as the meeting ends, Cadence starts to get a little hungry and Sombra offers her some food and a drink, like the CMC, he makes the potion and puts it in both drinks just to make sure if she choose either cup it would have potion in it. They sit, they drink, they're in love. So we all know what happens from then on, they fall so deeply in love they forget about everything else and the kingdom starts to crumble and everything's falling apart. So, I think Celestia thought it might have taken Cadence a few days but not as long as she had been gone, worried she goes out herself to look for her, following the same list of kingdoms she made for Cadence. Eventually she gets to what used to be the Crystal Empire and notices the obvious wreck it has become. She spots the Sombra and Cadance together, completely ignoring everything around them.
Noticing how irresponsible the Prince was Celestia uses her magic to either break the spell or separate them from one another. Practically banning Sombra and bringing Cadence back to Canterlot.
Of course that leaves his fallen citizens/inhabitants of his Kingdom and after being bannished for so long and finally coming back he enslaved his Kingdom and made it so that they would obey him(since he no longer had a sense of control over them) making Celestia bannish him, again. By this time Cadence is a full grown adult in a relationship with Shinning, Twilight is a young adult, and she's still living in Canterlot studying.
Everything lines up for me except for the that we(or I, rather) don't know ehat species Sombra was born as. I've personally always headcannond him to be born an Earth pony, but what do you think?
I really love Cadence, and the only real thing people have against her is her lack of backstory. I would have loved to spend more time on her, for her sake. It doesn’t have to be about a whole empire or her husband or baby. She could have become a truly awesome character, especially if more people latched onto her like they did Luna and Celestia
1 likeThanks to this episode, now I am gonna rewatch the show without skipping episodes.
0 likeseverything that Sawtooth Waves says is a fact to me and in my eyes is canon because everything he says makes complete sense!
0 likesI was always wondering Cadance's origin. I think the reality of her origin might be something between the book and your theory.
0 likesWhen u said this all sounds familiar, i instantly thought that chrysalis was the alicorn princess and she turned bad because she used the love spell and celestia separated the two. This kinda fits in with her motive: to get love
1 likethere's a book called "twilight and the crystal heart spell" that touched upon cadence's past and how she met celestia. not sure if you've read it yet but i suggest you should!
0 likesWell, dang...! You have such intimate knowledge of the show's lore. I can buy this as canon!
0 likesI was reading the comments and
0 likesWhen Cadence returned the heart, a pony yelled out "look. It's the crystal princess" might not mean much, but to me it kinda felt like maybe there was a previous crystal princess. Cuz Cadence was sent to just protect at first i do believe, but obviously to also rule. Otherwise the kingdom would have fallen faster, and the crystal ponies were too depressed to probably think of her as their new Ruler.
Some people are saying the Cadence could be the daughter of those lovebirds in the story. And how her mother was the previous crystal princess. But as the story goes, the potion screwed things up, and so came Sambra.
Maybe when the kingdom fell and vanished, so did her parents.
One problem with your hypothesis is that when we see Cadance as Twilight's foalsitter, she is noticeably younger, essentially a teenager/adolescent. That argues against Cadance being many years (perhaps centuries) old. Also, Cadance was allegedly born a Pegasus (though that has yet to be made official).
0 likesI was waiting for this, I love your videos, you're very interesting and amazing. Than,s for the wonderful upload like usual :D
1 likeTheory: I think Cadence is the daughter of the two ponies depicted in the book and was born a Pegasus. Her parents were probably always fighting and couldn’t get along together. This is where they decided to use the love potion to make them love each other and how Cadence had learn the love spell, but her version isn’t as strong as the original. However, this backfired, causing their kingdom to fall because the potion was a love poison. After their kingdom fell, Cadence had somehow freed her parents from the love poison, then Celestia appeared and made Cadence an Alicorn.
0 likesI really enjoyed this. Keep up the good work. Have a wonderful day SawTooth Waves. Have a wonderful day.
0 likesIf she was the alicorn in the story, then she already had character development. Which is a good thing.
0 likesIf not, then maybe she is the alicorn's successor, or a filly inspired by her, and learned from her mistakes. I would not mind about that.
Could you theorise about the geodes's origin next please? First of all I notice that they give the mane 7 similar abilities to their countrepats so maybe Sunset was able to do mind reading spells in Equestria.
0 likesI think there could be something to this theory, as it was also said that Tyrek (or whatever it is written) already knows the three princesses and that he was locked up for a long time. That means Cadence would have to be older.
0 likesAs much as I dig the idea, I really doubt Cadence is that same pony. The fact that the princess in the book is an alicorn isn't an odd detail to put in - every princess is an alicorn. Hell, even some of the other species' rulers are their equivalent to it.
0 likesCelestia. Cadence. Luna. Twilight was turned into an alicorn when given the title, making it seem like it's a requirement. Even Chrysalis and the leader of the kirin, while not technically alicorns/ponies, have the same stature as the adult pony princesses.
My theory would be that, if Cadence is related to the couple from the story at all, it would be as a...well, relative. A daughter, granddaughter, something like that.
Since it's specified as "long ago" and the holiday has seemingly existed for ages, and Cadence is shown as not being an adult yet when Twilight was a child, I doubt that it happened when she was still a kid.
That's actually the biggest reason for why I think the theory doesn't work - we can clearly see that Cadence looks different as an adult than she did when playing babysitter. The princesses are all (from what we know) immortal and seemingly stop aging when they're in the "lanky tall adult" phase that Luna and Celestia are in the entire series.
So Cadence couldn't have been an adult and part of that story when she was babysitting Twilight. But it also couldn't have happened after, since
1. Twilight would have probably been told about it
2. it wouldn't have been "long ago".
Cadence being from that bloodline, however, works pretty well - either as a daughter or more distant relative - in my opinion.
There is one problem with the theory that Cadence is the Alicorn in the book.
1 likeWe don't know the age of any of the characters, but we do have a rough idea. In the flash back with her babysitting twilight, she was not fully grown. She was closer to Sandbar's age, or Apple Jack's in the "Where the Apple Lies".
Even if Cadence is immortal (which i don't think she is, I think only Celestia, Luna, and Twilight are for reasons that are too long to put into a comment)
But assuming she IS immortal, we know that immortal ponies keep growing and aging to a certain point, and it doesn't take any more than probably 40 years judging by the finale episode. This would mean Cadence is most likely between 20 and 30 at the time of her marriage, and if that's the case, hearts and hooves day couldn't have been going on for very long, and during that time Cadence would have inherited a Kingdom, met a prince from some other kingdom, had both kingdoms fall without Celestia's intervention, then Cadence moves on to babysitting.
And how young would Cadence had to have been during the time of ruling a kingdom and falling in love with a prince? I'm gonna say about ten.
While I doubt Cadence IS the pony in the book, I am certain she is somehow connected to her.
Sorry for poking a hole in your theory.
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Lol I have same theory, my comment is very similar
0 likesThe prince's drawing looks so much like Caydens
0 likescadence's magic is ominously similar to the want it need it spell
0 likesif you read the book of the journal of the two sisters it explains her back story a little bit.
0 likesI think Cadance is a princess of a queen with magic like that. When i looked up Princess Cadance mother i saw picture that said that her mother was Princess Mi Amore and her outfit had a lot of hearts all over so i think she had that power from her mother.
0 likesI feel like the prince and princess under the spell were her parents and due to the spell it was sort of a "tangled" situation where she gained some powers from the potion
0 likesCadence has a cutie mark that represents love. Isn't it her destiny?
0 likesI've always wondered how she became a alicorn.
0 likesmaybe she was the one who provided the potion cause she is the princess of love which means that she has a strong understanding of love and spells related to love. Plus she would of left the need to help the relation ship because she was the princess of love.
0 likeswhenever i see this dude upload i always click because i love the horse theories
0 likesThis is a great theory, but I'm left wondering if the official comics are canon? Because there are a lot of details that could contribute to this theory, such as sombra killing a princess "mi amore" who I assume is cadence's mother(?).
0 likesLike others in the comment section i prefer the version that Cadence likely got her love spell true the potion due to her being the love kid of the potion. Houwever since the potion likely ended up killing the coupple, (since we know the kingdom fell) this wuld leave cadence in the same position as Harry potters Tom Riddle, and even if cadence (if related to the potion at all) knew what love felt like shed likely ignore it (she used the love spell btw showing she dit not know ((very well)) what love is, or at least what a good relationship represents) to me the therory falls appart, i feel cadence is especially as the prinses (marry sue of the subject youre prinses in) of love, shed be one of view to find “true love” in eqestria disconnecting her from the love potion in my mind the spell was preformed when she was yung and not fully mature. I feel that the story in ‘harts and hooves day’ is not connected to cadence... sorry for saying so sawtooth, but back to the drawing board on this one in my opinion
0 likesI actually think sombra casted a love potion spell on the Ruler before Cadance, and the ruler fell in love with sombra and the kingdom fell, and Sombra took over?
1 likeI feel like every time I click on a Sawtooth Wave video my mind is like: but, why didn’t I think of that
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0 likesAnd they both broke their bodies with that heart they made a second after,and somehow are still alive🤗☺️😋
I like that theory and it makes sense but my take on it is that she is the child of the alicorn and earth pony prince. Since the child would be a consequence of the love potion it would make sense that her powers would also be of love.
0 likesPlease make a video on why cadence might have become an alicorn so young
1 likethe crystal heart spell says that cadence was found nearby a village by 2 earth ponies and then she was adopted. During her childhood she spread love to everyone in the village and there was a pony named Prismia that had a green heart necklace that could steal love from other creatures. Then cadence defeated her and then was teleported to the same place where twilight became an alicorn and she also became an alicorn like twilight. Later she was adopted by celestia has her royale niece.
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Well, the book isn’t technically cannon if I’m not mistaken
0 likes@BatKittii it actually is canon (to an extent)
0 likesIf Cadence is the daughter of the prince and the princess then perhaps her parents were so caught off in their love for one another, they didn't have enough love for Cadence. Perhaps Cadence was neglected as a foal and never experienced real love from parent to child. Maybe that's why Celestia took her in? Same way Celestia set a path for Twilight to discover friendship, maybe she did the same thing for Cadence? Maybe the babysitting was for Cadence to learn what love is and how to share it with others and how foals love their caretakers and vise versa.
0 likesIt would also make sense that Flurry Heart represents the love for one's caretaker if Cadence never experienced that love until she learned it from Celestia? Cadence had a family formed from real love which is something she never had. Exactly the same as Twilight discovering real friendship as her path to becoming a princess.
Also maybe after learning what love is with Celestia, she went back to her parents and was able to break the spell? Maybe that's how she became an alicorn and the Princess of Love. It would make sense!
has anyone gone over theories on why cadences wings have purple and pink while no other canon pony has wings like that?
0 likesI do like the idea that the spell and cadence are somehow connected, but her being the princess in the story I find kinda if-ish. I like the idea better that it was her parents in that story or perhaps the story is not the full truth (throughout history parts of stories get changed for different reasons) so maybe the pony in the love spell potion wasn't really an alicorn and it was cadence's mom. Another thing is that there is a thoery that princess amore from the comics is related to cadence cause princess mi AMORE cadendaza (can't spell ;^;).
0 likesSo this is my theory: what if princess Amore is cadence's mom who is the princess in the love spell. Sometime down the line Amore broke out of the spell. When cadence was very young, her mom got turned to stone which somehow lead her to get lost in the forest where she was found in the book. Then cadence earns her wings and cutie mark. Honestly that would also kinda explain why Celestia made her a princess afterwards so fast unlike twilight who toke 3 seasons to become an alicorn. Cadence got her horn after she got her cutie mark.
I think sawtooth is right but we don't have any proof that cadence was around during the first pony valentine's but if you push that aside I agree with you
0 likesI don’t think that Cadence is the pony that was put under the love potion. Remember in the Crystal Empire part two, a Crystal Pony recognized Cadence as the Crystal Princess. Perhaps it was her mother not her. Maybe that’s why Cadence values Love and Friendship, because if that’s the case she was neglected by her parents because they were lost in each other’s eyes. If they couldn’t preform their royal duties they definitely wouldn’t have been able to care for their own daughter.
0 likesHere is my theory
0 likesThe both ancient king and queen for so deeply in love that they forgot about their child and left the child somewhere the child was cadence she got the power of her mother and father and became the love princess and celestial found her
Maybe those ponies in the story are Cadance’s ancestors? If so, the potion got mixed into the DNA and manifested as a spell! But that’s what I think.
0 likesI think the pony from hearts and hooves day is Cadence's mom that would explain why she would use that magic
0 likes(Plzz see the video in which there is queen crystallis backstory)
1 likeI saw a video in which it was shown that queen crystall-is's back story and it was proven that she was the the lost princess of crystall empire so what if she was the princess responsible for the love one day.And the reason is there in that video why she turned evil so maybe cadence was just a random pony and then celestia knew that she could be the new princess of love and turned her alicorn princess cadance was studying in celestia's school only and then she started babysitting twilight and on and on and on.
i would actually guess that ceidences timeline is simular to twilights, i mean they were both children and they have grown up at the same time. it would make more sence of caidence being in the bloodline of the prinsess instead of being the prinsess
0 likesIT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!!
1 likei remember being obsessed with mlp when I was like in year 1 and I used to watch the episodes with my friend when I went to her house to hang out and now she's even worse than a fake friend and these videos remind me of when me and that friend were real friends and now we hate each other, I'm her second option when her new mind slave isn't at school and she tries to steal all of the new friends I get. When I got a friend that I could trust more than anyone in my class, the fake friend demanded to meet her. I was worried that she'd try to steal my first real best friend so I said "I aint going to introduce u to her, if u want to meet her go talk to her urself" and after a long time she gave up but I aint going to forget the best or worst times with the fake friend. The thing that reminds me the most of the good times is these videos because they make me remember how much obsessed me and that friend were with mlp when we were real friends. I just wanted to share this story cuz I got reminded about it.
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0 likesGood theory but I’m still a big fan of ink roses theory that the princess from that story was chrysalis. And that the origin of the changlings feeding off of love is from the backfired love potion
1 likeI'm still bumbed that we never got a Cadance episode and her only significant story was a third party novel.
0 likesCadance is one of the most underused character and the most underused princess, like she could've done so much more for the storyline and stuff but the writers didn't really include her in basically important stuff kinda sad tbh
0 likesI agree with Benrisal and Pastel maybe Candance is their daughter that would make more sense
0 likesI personally prefer Ink Rose’s version of Cadence’s backstory.
0 likesI think crystalis (I’m sorry for my spelling) is that princess from hearts and hooves day. If love was all the princess thought of after consuming the potion...........
0 likesThat one scene with those two ponies always made me wonder too
0 likesCadance wasn't a unicorn before she became an alicorn, she was a pegasus. Plus her age is way off in the book...we don't need to know her age to know that the princess in the book is more mature than Cadance would have been.
0 likesLikely all this is with the similarities with the spell, is just the way "love spells" and "love poisons" work...the difference being that Cadance's love spell reminds ponies why they love each other, where as the love poison forces ponies to be infatuated with each other (which isn't even love).
That means when Cadance cast her love spell on Shining Armor, she wasn't controlling his will, or forcing his affections on herself, instead, she was merely reminding him why he loved her. Don't forget, Chrystalis forced Shining Armor's love for Cadance to be channeled on Chrystalis instead, and it was so forceful that Shining Armor just fell into a hypnotic state....his love for Cadance could have even been influenced to change toward Chrystalis, we don't know for sure..it's just what you see is what you get, whatever happened to Shining Armor, we know he wasn't acting on his own will.
Awesome vid. ! I really like this speculation ! It adds up, and it may be a possibility.
0 likesok this is my headcanon now. Also I think Cadence still has connections to the Crystal Empire
0 likesGoing off of his theory What if the Crystal Empire disappeared because Cadence couldn’t do her royal duties?
0 likesI agree with your theory! This is an awsome video!
0 likesWell we know how old Twilight's older brother is ish so I don't think she is as old as hearts and hooves maybe an aged relative who's curse was lifted before Celestia was an alicorn
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Maybe Cadance is the daughter of the two but Cadance's parents was too deep in the spell that there didnt take care of her, so two earth ponys took her in and as she got older, she released that she was the only pegasus in the town, so she ask the earth ponys why is that and not wanting to tell her the true, there says "we find u one day" (this dose have to with the book)
0 likesI don't think Cadence was the Alicorn in the illustrated fable. While your narrative makes sense, sawtooth, I can not discount that book, those comics, and the supporting tweets.
0 likesThat said, I do think that there is a connection between the two, and I will explain what that connection is here in a moment.
Now, one key reason why I do not think that "Princess Mia Motori Cadenza" use her full & formal name, is the Alicorn depicted in the "hearts and hooves day" episode is the fact that in both comics and flashbacks we see her being SIMILAR in age to twilight; slightly older, but not by much, which means that she would have been __a child__ and I just do not think that child-molestation, or even the implications of it being a part of the "Equestrian universe" would have any place in our beloved 'Technicolor pony show'...
But I do think that one of your theories about the inheritance of the crystal empire might have some weight here: what If Cadence is their Empress not only by right-of-arms: but blood as well?
Picture if you will the reign of King Sombra, you've said that he may have created the Alicorn Amulet by channeling all of the power of his alicorn form into it in part of the process of transforming into the shadow-monster he later became; but, why? What could drive an alicorn, who all seem to be powered by positive emotions to become that type of thing, on purpose?
What if I told you that it ties back into the Flurry-Heart conundrum?
It all comes down to the crystal empire and the nature of its monarchy.
I believe that, if the Sombra theory is true, he was not the first to be so; in fact, the crystal heart is an alternative manifestation of the same principles of Alicorn power transmission that he corrupted to create the Alicorn Amulet.
In the elder days of the crystal empire, the ponies there didn't 'Crystalize' the way they do now, not until the first time their alicorn rulers died in the process of channeling the last of their fading power and essence into the making of the crystal heart. Now, normally alicorns can't be killed by any means except violence, but I do not think that these were the same alicorns we have in later years. I think that somehow, star-swirls experiments CHANGED how alicorns work and made them immortal. If not that, then perhaps the alicorn rulers of the crystal empire were just, different, from how it works for the latest set, perhaps because they represented love, which, while it is eternal, in a sense, must die and renew itself, like a Phoenix, every few years to even last a single lifetime.
In any case, as the rulers of the crystal empire grew old and close to the end of their lives, quite possibly already knocking on the door of death anyway, they would put their magic into the heart and end their lives on their terms. However, one of their children, the first-born, would be BORN an alicorn, and the next ruler by what amounts to a divine mandate.
Now, where do Sombra, Cadence, and Flurry-Heart fit into this?
Sombra was the last heir to the crystal empire before Cadence, and, he went mad, turning himself into a shadow-demon-thing... With no other alicorn to carry-on the maintenance of the crystal heart, the people were FORCED to follow him, miserable though his rule was because no other options were available. But then, Celestia\* and Luna appeared, and war broke out between the two countries of Equestria and the crystal empire, and I think that it was not only a war between the two but a civil-war of rebels fighting Sombra to proclaim the Royal Sisters Queens in his place. You note, Sombra wasn't defeated at the far southern border of the empire, but within shouting distance of the capital city; I think that it took a significant armed conflict to force him back to that point.
\*(As a side note, it is part of my head-canon that Celestia wasn't always called that, but rather took it as a Reign-name after being acclaimed to the rank of Princess. I think her original name was something like "Solaria", but I digress, that's a theory for another time.)
Now, I asked what would drive Sombra to give up his pony hood and become a terrifying shadow monster; what if, he watched the poisoning of the previous princess, his mother; and that warped him so badly that he vowed to find a way to separate his heart and soul and mind into three distinct entities so none could be tampered with by affecting the other two? This results in the creation of the Alicorn Amulet, and his turning into a shadow-monster.
I do think that it makes sense, but I said at the start that Cadence was heir by blood, as well as a divine right, how does that work, and tie back to the potion? I think Cadence was the distant descendent of a younger-child of Sombra's mother, conceived during the period of being poisoned. Cast out by Sombra when he came to power, this child emigrated to Equestria, never speaking of their ancestors, lest Sombra has them assassinated, but, when the Crystal Heart began to awaken as the icy slumber encasing the kingdom waned, it called to the most direct dependent of the old bloodline who was still alive and uncorrupted to come to save it, and that descendant was Mia Motori Cadenza, AKA: Cadence.
Now, I know that there are going to be a few objections, and some of them have answers:
Q1: "But Cadence was a Pegasus, and the crystal ponies are all Earth-types..."
A1: We've seen earth ponies give birth to pegasi before, (looking at you Mrs. Cake...); so it's not out of the question that at some point in the intervening years the bloodlines of earth-ponies from that early "second-son", (or daughter, I'm more partial to the idea that Sombra's half-sibling was a mare, actually), simply died out over the years; leaving the daughter of a pegasus bloodline "the last mare standing".
Q2: "But Luna said they had never heard of something like that happening with Flurry-Heart."
A2: Um, yeah, and? Celestial and Luna weren't BORN royalty, so of course, they were not privy to the big secrets of the unicorns. The idea that there were earth-ponies who could pick up the greatest wizards of the unicorn nation and dribble them like a basketball probably was a state secret on the level of the schematics of first-strike capacity stealth submarines in the early 1960s! With the whole "Clover the Clever" incident such knowledge was lost; especially the details, if not the broader strokes.
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0 likesI watched this video where it said that she was an orphan and these two earth ponies took her in and raised her.
0 likesSo.. did anyone else think: oh so Sombre was the pony who poisoned her and the crystal empire fell or is that’s just me 🤦🏽♀️
1 likeMaybe the Prince and Princess of the story we're somehow her parents or something 🤔
0 likesIt's a long shot but thats the first thing that came to mind
I'm glad you brought this up the first time I saw cadences power I waa like thats not good and I thought she had shineinf armour inder a spell
0 likesI like to think that the ponies on the story are her parents, we don't actually know if there were alicorns in the past. I doubt cadence was born an alicorn but became one like twilight
0 likesI think Cadence was that alicorn because technically she gives like a love poison. I mean her hair looks like the Alicorns hair even her wings looks like that other Alicorns wings
0 likesWhat if the kingdom was the crystal empire and because cadence was so infatuated she was completely oblivious to king sombra taking up power. When she was released it was too late and there was nothing she would do but go on living like it didn’t happen
0 likesWhat if Princess Cadance was the daughter of those 2 and the love potion came into her mom which made her have all that to make people fall in love??? Idk its my theory but also I think ur theory fits. And maybe that Celestia took care of Cadance? Idk I could be wrong LOL
1 likethis is going to swirl(*cough*cringey pun) in my head whole time rn- but heck its actually amazing idea!
0 likesThat only makes sense because if you remember the Crystal Empire was taken over by zomba but we don't know anything past that so when the crystal pony said the princess or the Queen is back that means cadence could have been that princess or queen
0 likesWell in cadence's back story it is said that she was a Pegasus adopted by earth ponies. Even if that's only fan made, in one episode little twilight says to cadence " you are now a princess. You won't have time for me anymore" or something like this. Well they only see alicorns as princesses.That means she wasn't an alicorn before. So I don't know about this theory
0 likesI think that alicorn of the story is Crhysalis!
1 likeI kinda agree with you but the hearth warming thing happen many years ago? And candance became a alicorn around the same age has twilight when she was little by princess celesda. So she couldn’t be the same alicorn in the book. Maybe her mother!?
1 likeBruh you are amazing because you help us know what happens in my little pony thank you so much
0 likesThis is a cute theory but I thought I heard there was a chapter book about Cadence and she was a pegasus that went alicorn? Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell?
0 likesWhere's that "good for her" gif when you need it
1 likeI realized this posted
0 likesTODAY
I like this theory a lot though
Is it possible if you can do a video on each villains motives?
If this is what cadences past was like that's dark
0 likesI think she was the daughter of the Crystal Princess
0 likesOr The De-Aged crystal princess.
I think she was grazed by sombra’s time spell
But that’s just a theory, A MLP Theory
It sounds possible but from a mlp comic Candace said the she was founded from a pegasi family. Also in this comic the pony that its based on it she said Candace looked like the old Queen or Princess of the Crystal Empire. Idk but I think you should look for the mlp comic I'm talking about it could help with your theory. Also I love videos 💙🦄
0 likesAWESOME VIDEO!
1 likeAre the comics cannon? Cause of so, then “reflections” would tie in really well, as it explains what happened to Amore
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Yea. I didn’t think about that
0 likesU ARE BACK AND WITH SOMETHING THAT I HAVE ALLWAYS WANTED I THINK THIS IS A DREAM
1 likeWhat about the Crystal Heart spell?
0 likesHey I really like this video but what if you did a video on princess Luna why was she so young when she came back and when the tree of harmony was dying when twilight looked in the past she was as old as she was now I would really appreciate if you did a video on this but you don't have to if you don't want to😊
1 likeMaybe the Alacon from hearts and tough day is cadence's mother
0 likesis it just me or does that swirl on cadance's necklace thing look like half of a heart. if thats true then who has the other half?
0 likesDoes anyone have any theorys on how prince blue blood is celestia's nephew?
0 likesIn my dream I was runded by a illegal business and heres the thing flurry heart was involved in a even worse fight against apex and I nearly died twice first time was from fatal injuries and second was from blood lost and my dream girlfriend broke up and gone with apex and I was called out of the fight because of the rund and heres the thing I have got those injuries by a crane and a injection of a micro chip in the same shoulder that I have my cutie mark and again not a patrion and imagion the crane shocking with 10 gigabolts of electricity and the creature was from pokemon when a pecachu used it z moves twice both at the same time the only double attack was my kill to scropan and he tried to kill me but I'm to late to found out that he was mind controlled
1 likeOne thing to consider: The only time we've seen stallion rulers without horns are when they aren't from Equestria...
2 likesHi swathooth, what i'm going to say have nothing to do with the cadence theory, is about the king sombra theory video I was watching again: I was thinking if the amulet was so important and powerfull how it ended in the hooves of that random pony who sold for Trixie something so powerfull wouldn't be just thrown away , and if the amulet of the alicorn contains magic from all three tribes trixie should have been turned into an alicorn even if the magic was corrupted it was magic from unicorns, pegasis, and earth ponys
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I love your videos and your theoryes, thanks for making a new video and i wish you see my coment
0 likesThink about it 6 unicorns raised the sun but non became alicorns we already know some were mares so why not Celestia and Luna got their wings by breaking her relatives curse
0 likesI googled it up and it says she’s a thousand years old..
0 likesG R A N D M A
What are your favourite MLP ships? :)
0 likesOmg finally you make a video of her thanks for replying and we love you make more of you videos please
0 likesten minutes and he already has 2.2k likes...........AND THIS IS WHY I'M SUBSCRIBED
0 likescadence is my FAVORITE princess
0 likesWhile I'm personally not sure if I agree with this theory I can say one thing. But it's more of an observation and I don't functionally want to read into it further than what im saying here.
0 likesIt's become a thing for -keyword SOME abuse victims to use the idea of the abuse as a sort of kink in their later life post abuse, usually in order to regain the control they didn't have during the experience. -Think knife play or types of maybe more extreme BDSM...
I just listened to what happened in the original story from the Hearts and Hooves Day episode. The Prince gave a love 'potion' to someone he liked and as a result it made them want to stay together and get lost in each others eyes and they end up ignoring the rest of the kingdom as a result. They let their kingdom fall to ruin from neglect. (Not including the dragon also mentioned in the story but maybe thats a story for someoneto write) Could that have been an intentional mislead on his behalf? Also it doesn't even explicitly say the princess consented but I might be reading into things too much there. Sounds pretty dark to me actually now I'm thinking about it this much. It doesn't say how long this love poison lasted for but I don't think a kingdom necessarily falls in a day. Well this is My Little Pony and worse has happened on the show but thats another coversation...
WHAT IM NOT TRYING TO SAY, is that the princess/alicorn from the original Hearts and Hooves Day story was definitely an abuse victim, and neither is Cadance. But hypothetically if Cadance was that princess, could that have something to do with her showing off her love magic to Twilight through affecting that couple without: A, knowing anything about them, B, not even asking for context or even what the argument was about or C, even GETTING THEIR CONSENT to use her spell on them. Maybe she just sort of assumed it was fine to do it? And even if she did know who the couple was which I doubt would that even make it okay to just have done the spell regardless.
I don't know what I came across mentally to have written this out but I feel like I'm onto something here. Or I'm just reading into a little girls show about bright pastel ponies... oops
I LOVE THE SONG THAT YOU PLAY ON THE END OF UR VID I FOUND THE SONG AND PLAY IT WHEN EVER I HAVE THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesWe know way Cadence become alicorn, but she locked like she is teenager in Twilight's flashback, that means she grow up in same time as normal ponies (and not like Lina and Celestia, they are 1000+ years old). That mean she was kid when she became alicorn, so she isn't princess from story...
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You are far more consise than me lol
0 likesHow for Celestia's sake did she spread that love BEFORE she was an alicorn??? Cause we know that originally she'a a pagasus!
0 likesCan you explain why sunset shimmer’s magic was teal in the first movie? But was red from the 3rd film onwards?
0 likesChrysalis is the Ex-Princess of love btw
0 likesAyoo- what if they were Cadance's parents😳
2 likesLove ur videos so much
0 likesHey i have an idea ok so a few people have mentioned that she could be their daughter and maybe she was ok so lets say that alicorn use to be a pegasus just like cadance and became an alicorn princess as well then she had that love potion which took over her life and she ended up having a baby pegasus with the prince called Cadance but due to their unnatural love for each other the prince and princess abandoned Cadance and went on with their love life with only the two of them that's when Celestia found Cadance along and scared and so Celestia took her in and she may of been a pegasus but since there was a pegasus turned alicorn before her Celestia thought Cadance could become a strong princess and that's how she became the princess of love as a way to replace her mother who never had the chance to know what it truly felt like 😁
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@Bella Hoffman Thanks 😊 but i cant take all the credit i saw some people say she could be the daughter plus im sure someone's thought of something similar ❤
0 likesMaybe when in the story it said there kingdom fell this might not Mach up with cannon but that is when king sombra took over
0 likesI have a question about mlp. In friendship university how did flim and flam get a hold of twilights book. Just like rarity says
0 likesWhat if Cadence had a relationship with Blueblood and that's how he became a prince?
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That would be incest as Cadence is Celestia’s niece, making her Blueblood’s cousin.
0 likes@Reese He's a fifty two time cousin to Celestia so it doesn't count as incest and then before turning into an Alicorn there didn't seem to be any dating between Celestia and Cadence so a niece might just be an affectionate treatment
0 likesThe two ponies could be the parents of Cadence. And the potion can I have affected the baby which is cadence so maybe that’s why she has the heart as her cutie mark. But that’s just a theory. But who knows
0 likeswow amazing :3
0 likesThere might be a chance that's princess cadance backstory because there's only 5 allicorns and it would not be princess luna because princess cadance is already a princess after princess luna was banished to the moon and if it was princess luna was that mysterious princess the kingdom would not fall because princess celestia was the ruler of equstria and princess luna's job was to lower the moon and dream walking as for princess celestia how would the canterlot would be in peace and who would help the mysterious prince and princess celestia break out from the spell and plus princess celestia and princess luna was the only starswirl of bearden turned into allicorns. (Sorry for bad grammar)
0 likeshow did this Alicorn in the Book become one? In the Show, Its like: If you find another cind of magic, you become an alicorn. When Cadence IS that Alicorn, she must have been in love before, to find thid magic. But when she is NOT this alicorn, who is it then, And what cind of magic does she have? I have an Idea: What, if she is Cadences mother, and her magic is another cind of love, like Flurryheart. Maybe the love to her dauther. Just my thought.
0 likesDamn, that's deep! :D
0 likesI love the crystal love princess pony :>
0 likesI love this dudes channel
0 likesor maybe those two ponies are cadence's mom and dad! it makes sence! its there daughter that had the continution of the love potion in her! magic....
0 likesIn the book that is princess cadence mom and dad and when she was born they still must have had some love In the baby because the mom looks like princess cadence
0 likesI this that princess in the love spell was her mom and the prince was her dad.
0 likeswait what if that prince and that princess are King sombras mother and father?The princess would be Princess Amore and the prince's name is unknown. It would go perfectly with my theory.(Btw I just mixed sawtooths theory and conspirapon3s theory.)My theory is that After Celestia and Luna realized they could raise the moon and sun,they absorbed the magic of all 3 tribes and became alicorns.Then Sombra got jealous of Celestia and Luna's power.Then chrysalis asks Celestia And Luna for help.Sombra then figures out how to take the magic from all 3 tribes and gets wings.After that luna and celestia fights sombra.Thats when starswirl comes in .He put all sombras Alicorn magic in The Alicorn Amulet. Then Sombra is banished,Chrysalis is angry cause she lost her husband and half her citizens and other half went homeless so then she decides to take revenge. : )
0 likesThe clover on your head, WHAT DOES IT MEAN!
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St. Patrick’s Day is coming.
0 likesI wonder why didn't Princess Celestia told anyone about this 🤔 utleast she should have told twilight about it
0 likesMaybe the alicorn is her mother?
0 likesActully in show we see her as a Alicorn baby sitting btw
0 likesThat's a good though but what about the spell that twilight at season 1 or 2 she made a love spell at her doll to make a friendship problem to the cutie mark crusedores and then with all the love magic at the doll all the town was after the thing that do you have to say about that?
0 likesPlease replay I want to know what do you think about my though.
The four leaf clover is cool
0 likesOMG I didn’t realize that I was a little early this time! Luv ur channel! ❤️
0 likesShe ain’t the princess
1 likeShe might be the princess daughter cause that would seem her to be to young to date anyone
This goes against the book tho. Daughter? Perhaps. The same pony? No
1 likeSawtooth posts
0 likesMe.gotta get my thinking cap on
Can you make video about human Sunset Shimmer, because Sunset we know, part of EG main 7, is from pony world, and we have no idea where is original human Sunset or how old is she...
0 likesHey sawtooth i was wondering this is a good theory but do you know what singwaves/sawtoo is up to right now
0 likesI thought you were gonna make a video about going into the portal.
0 likesThank u for publishing a vid on my Birtheversary🤗
0 likestime to make this cannon
0 likes❤🧡💛💚💙💜💖
1 likeI think she is the daughter of the alicorn
0 likesOh my BLOB, you are SMART!
0 likesWait cadence been an alicorn even since a filly
0 likesYES NEW VID 😀
0 likesSAWTOOTH WAVES THE MALE PONY THAT LOVED THE ALICORN I THINK SHE GAVE BIRTH TO A ALICORN SO MAYBE THIS IS WHY CADANCE GAVE BIRTH TO A ALICORN PLS READ THIS AND PLS HELP ME SOLVE THIS IM A HUGE FAN OF URS JUST PLS MAKE A VID I THINK WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM AND IF U DO MAKE A VID WHICH I HOPE SO I would like to say ur awesome
0 likesWow pretty cool
0 likesidk why im started to think those wto ponies are the fathers of cadance and blueblood
0 likesNice video
0 likeswow😀
0 likesI think your alicorn theory will get prooben wrong because on season 10, comic 96 there will be a comic about Celestia and Luna
0 likesBut Iiked this video
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Comics aren’t canon.
0 likesWhat if she is the child of the to poney and them being under the love spell so there child of them would maby be abmele to use the majeic of the love poshion
1 likeA mega flashback
0 likesI am already going crazy . When you will going to make your next video.
0 likesI don’t thing she is that pony....I think that pony is het MOTHER. But that’s just a theory A CARTOON THEORY 😏
0 likesThey come. the baby of kaidens is the first that born.
0 likesI mean the story might be fake but if it’s true that would only mean it’s cadence ooooor that alicorn died or lost all their magic like alicorn amulet or some other way
0 likesmaybe she did not know lol or o or she was just doing what she can do
0 likesHate to break it to ya, but I’m 90% sure the book is cannon.
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It hasn’t been confirmed cannon but the creators is what he meant...
0 likesHow are you this smart
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Yes
1 likeWhat kingdom fell though
0 likesI think the book the woman is cadance mom,?
0 likesYour rite but theres one fing soty why Cadence is so Young?
0 likes🧠💥
0 likesJUST ASK THE CREATOOOOOOOOR ÒnÓ
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The creators won’t say anything.
0 likes@Reese ok did you ask
0 likes5:34 what is that sound in the background-
0 likes5:41 again
Please tell me about mlp G5 because I have a lot of questions please please
0 likesMy questions are:
What is g5 basically????
Are mlp characters are in g5????
Is Starlight Glimmer is in g5????
Is it possible that mlp producers make a series or a movie about starlight glimer because she is my favorite character and I really really want to see her become an alicorn please
Please please please please please reply my comment please please
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1. G5 is the new generation of My Little Pony.
0 likes2. As of now, none of the G4 characters make a physical appearance aside from merch in one of the screenshots.
3. Starlight is not in G5. The producers said that none of the characters in G4 will return:
4. No. Hasbro is not making a movie or series about Starlight. She doesn’t have what it takes to properly rule and will never be an Alicorn.
Thank you for replying
0 likesBut why she can't become an alicorn she saved equestria like twilight
0 likesAnd she is more powerful than twilight she is more talented than twilight her skills in magic are more amazing than twilight
0 likesThat's why I think she deserves to become an alicorn like twilight
0 likesEvery fan of starlight glimer wants to see her become an alicorn
0 likesAre there G1 g2 g3 of MLP????
0 likesoh yeah-
0 likeshow did thy get get wings ........
0 likesSorry I am late, I had class 😰
0 likesNoice
0 likesOk so twiltet how did clestiai no she was the chosen one. And its kinda simler to her story she did not want
0 likesTo make eny friends and she was apart of the love priness's life she mabey has somthing to do
with this and she looket bichraad wen crislis chrapt her
But da hair don't match doe.
0 likesOmg
0 likesOooooooooooooooooooooooooo nice vid
0 likesNO !!!!!!
1 likeYa me too
0 likesAre you still alive
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He literally posted this today. What do you think.
0 likesI'm early!!!!
0 likesi saw you comment on a youtube post.
0 likesYes
0 likesBunch v. C,v
0 likesFake
0 likeshi I watched you when you where the brony noteion and then i stopped cuz i stopped watching you tube
0 likesEmy🧐
0 likesyes
0 likesYes I that so
0 likesFake. Its really fake.
0 likesHm, 🤔🤔
0 likesWhy
0 likesmmmm
0 likesNotice very
0 likesWhy
0 likesYea!
0 likesYour all rong
0 likesIncredible theory as always.
1 likeI wonder who the stallion was?
I love how the series always adds little details to help the theorists
The small details I never notice until someone points them out. I look forward to seeing your videos all the time. It’s a nice answer to cadence’s backstory
0 likesThe theory makes a lot of sense love your channel it really helps me understand a lot about mlp but one thing I’ve wondered how did celestial and Luna become alicorns was it from raising the sun and moon or doing something great and magical we don’t know there parents
2 likesAmazing! This is an amazing theory. She could have a history completely similar to this
0 likesLove your channel! I am a huge MLP fan and this is the one of the best channels I have ever found!!! Love from India 🇮🇳
2 likesIt’s actually a really interesting theory! I definitely wish we could’ve gotten a canon backstory though ;-;
0 likesGreat Video!!
1 likeCould you please explain the portals to Equestria? Like, is the island one natural and the statue one not? Or are they both natural? Or are neither of them natural? And how many are there?
AWESOME! ❤
0 likesCadence is my favorite princess, amazing 💜💙
Finally somebody told a thing I was thinking about all this years!!🧡😭🧡
0 likesI just had a flashback from one episode of sawtooth waves, he said, and I quote
0 likes“It would be nice if we had a CANON cadance backstory...”
Sawtooth gave himself a canon backstory.
I was waiting for this! 😄
0 likesBut seriously this is an amazing theory keep up the good work
I know the idw comic arc where sombra got reformed took place in alternate Reality but i was hoping that princess amore was gonna be mentioned in the show
2 likesI love these videos ✨✨✨
1 likeFor me it is a little hard for me to believe because when you compare the growth between the growth when twilight had in the last episode and how small cadence was when she was presented and could not have been so long long ago. Maybe several years or not even,
0 likesBut in the recent years before she meet twilight she could have been trans formed. Since we don't know exactly what happen to cadence before then it could be many things. Like she could have been born an alicorn. Not likely though. But your theory is pretty solid considering. I enjoyed this video. 😁
I saw a great comic where Twilight went into how Cadence isn't the princess of love but the princess of hormones, that she could kill someone if she tried
0 likesI think it would be more likely if cadence was the daughter from those two ponies and she inherited the love magic that infected with
0 likesMaybe the ponies were her parents. They could have been the orignal rulers of the crystal empire before Sombra, and that's why her royal crystal apperance is even more royal then twilights, and she could do that love spell because the potion could have had a lasting effect on the DNA if its never broken.
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Cant be cus the birth from an Alicorn was never a thing until Flurry Heart came along. So, Cadence cant be the daughter of this Alicorn! Im pretty sure its just Cadence-
0 likesHi sawtooth! Can you please make a video on human sunset shimmer (the one who didn't go through the portal to the human world) where is she now? And how is she? It would really mean a lot if did do a video on it!
1 likeAmazing as always
1 likeI’ve always wondered what cadence)# canon backstory is
0 likesHere’s a thought what if the alicorn from the story was Princess Amore? She might have been the one that stallion loved.
1 likeAnd who to say the spell actually wore off? There must have been a side effect of some sort.
Maybe that’s way the spell Cadance used is so similar to that of the love poison.
Just think.....
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Who is Princess Amore?
0 likesShe’s apparently related to Cadance. The princess of the Crystal Empire.
1 likeShe was killed by King Sombra
That won’t work as Amore was a unicorn, never an alicorn/
0 likesCadence is one of my fav princesses super humble
0 likesJust goes to show that just because it's all over, doesn't mean it has to stop.
0 likesWait I have a hypothesis, Chrysalis and Cadence were sisters at one point in time
0 likesOriginally I just thought that cadance was a pegasus and became an alicorn because she had extra magic
2 likesme = simple
Sawtooth Waves = complex
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Cadence was originally a pegasus. After defeating a witch and bringing love back to her village, she became the princess of love.
0 likes@katitobyt See I just watched mlp and laughed not once did u think of that
0 likes@ᴅᴡᴀᴇᴋᴋɪ ♥︎ That was written in the comic named ''Twilight and the Crystal Heart Spell''. Search ''mlp cadence's backstory'' and watch Magpie's video.
0 likesMaybe she is the daughter of that alicorn princess, and the love power is some kind of side effect from the potion.
0 likesSo cute!
1 likeHmmmmm.....makes a lotta sense.
0 likesBut we still don't know how Cadence was born or adopted or very possibly created by someone or something.
Hi I love your videos you explain lot about my little pony all my doubts are clear
0 likesFinally, a video about this
0 likesHey sawtooth I think because it said a long long time ago cadence would’ve been in adults from the first stages that we know about her she wouldn’t of been a baby when twilight was so I’m thinking that that’s the daughter of the princess that was corrupted with the love spell the love spell drained into her and gave her the magic since we never really see any sort of proof that she was a Pegasus before hand or Hoof that she might’ve just been born in alicorn
0 likesThe only place it says that she was a Pegasus is in the comics so I’m thinking she’s the daughter of those two and she was separated because the mom and dad couldn’t care for her so that’s why she was separated from them and thrown into celestia is care I know it’s kind of out there but I really think that might’ve been what happened I hope you read this comment and her and maybe add together this and see if this would work😁
That clover is too cute
0 likesHey I have a little challenge for you. Changinlings backstory and why mistmane and sombra's mane floats if they are not a alicorns.
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It was already established that Mistmane’s mane flowed because she had strong magic, and Sombra’s mane flowed because he’s a shadow pony/Umbra pony.
0 likesI have been waiting for this!!
0 likesAwesome and cool!
1 likeI always thought that princess amore was cadence mom
1 likeIt would make sence but then there are questions who is the prince where did his kingdom go and can stalions become alicorns since he was not a alicorn or had a alicorn bride before but it could be a answer for caidence
1 like0:55 Cadance actually brainwashed them
0 likesAll villain on mlp is explained(history and more)in a mlp book FIENDship is magic
1 likeI love cadence videos
0 likesthere is one problem about this theory. Cadence was babysitting twilight as a small pony and if she was already married wouldn't she be the big version of herself? sorry just thinking.
0 likesHappy birthday Sawtooth waves
0 likesIs there an article with every instance of alicorns in the show or something
1 likeI like this theory the might be flaws but it is good
0 likesThat,s Cadences parents had the love poison.
0 likesSooo cool!
0 likesHi I love your theories
1 likeAwesome!
0 likesFinally! A new upload by Sawtooth Waves! (When I clicked, it said two minutes ago. 😂😂😂😂)
0 likeswow im early :v i haven't finished it yet but i like where this is going
2 likesI love your content and you
0 likesI don't think thats cadence cause she married shining
1 likearmor
FINALLY YAYY!!!!!!
0 likesI actually forgot about your channel until I saw you in my notification
1 likeCandance is underrated
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Yes
1 likeThey do look similar
0 likesMystery
1 likeI like this💜
This is interesting 🧐
1 likeok so i saw something that makes no since how did spike turn into a crystal dragon
0 likesNew theory what if that wasn’t cadence I mean the theory make sense what if that was a relative of cadence or a lost alicorn princess that found a prince and wanted to get in love with him and maybe there was a old book about love spells or she created it used it on him and then that alicorn got lost of died idk but I feel like it was cadence
0 likesI don't think cadence was this princess but maybe its her daughter
0 likesTHAT'S NOT TRUE CAD IS CELESTIA AND LUNA'S NIECE THE QUESTION IS HOW OLD IS CADANCE?
0 likesGood video 👍
0 likescan't wait to watch the video lol
0 likesI think so it makes so much sense but there is one thing that is rong but in your other video I love your YouTube channel it makes me think so interesting love it cant wait for the next one.
0 likesEarly gang!! Love the vids Sawtooth!
1 likeHm, cadence is very suspicious...
0 likesHer past is c o m i c s
0 likesI want to know something will u talk about g5 :> idc u post great things all the time!!
1 likeMake a video on princess tempora
1 likeI kinda figured this story was her parents
0 likesFinally.
0 likesOr she’s the daughter of these two ponies..
0 likesWhat is your opinion on g5 ?
2 likesalso how did the main 6 turn into crystal pony's pleas some one explain
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They temporarily turned into Crystal Ponies because of the hearts’ magic.
0 likesThis is the Game Theory of Mlp.
0 likesCan you upload more often
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i already upload as often as i can!
1 likeOk
0 likesI think its Cadence mom
0 likesI always see ur videos
1 likeIm still wondering why her first apperance got her looking kinda sus tho
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amogus
1 like@Sawtooth Waves hi
1 likeMe: pls do G5 :)
0 likesWe dont know cadances real parents she was adopted by two earth ponies and it wasent cadance as the princess in the story when she got her wings she was like when she did the love spell
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You are wrong. Cadence was originally a pegasus. After defeating a witch and bringing love back to her village, she became the princess of love.
0 likes@katitobyt i know cadance was a pegasus but we never knew her real parents
0 likesI really hate the word Mary Sue it's so annoying there's an actual word of what it means but if I created my own Alicorn OC and calls it a Gary stue I'll be mad
0 likesM early :) and THIS WAS AWSOME!!
0 likesWow this is the quickest I have ever click on a video
0 likesi think thats no cadance becasue in the picture thats a full grown alicorn.. and cadance when we saw her when she did that magic to the ponys shes a kids or something... so i dont think that thats right....
0 likesMaybe It's her mother
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definitely possible!
1 like@Sawtooth Waves Eh, I don't think so. If the Hearts and Hooves Day princess is Cadance's mother, that would make it likely that she passed her alicornhood onto Cadance, like Cadance herself with Flurry Heart, yet in The Crystalling, Cadance herself seemed a bit surprised that her daughter was born an alicorn.
0 likesBtw, great video Sawtooth!
I got here in 9 seconds and also I never saw how the picture of the princess was a alicorn so yeah
0 likesluv u sawtooth :)
0 likeshiiiii Love your videos!!!
0 likesEarly! Love your bids btw ☺️
0 likesSawtooth wave
2 likesyes she must be
1 likeLittle late on the valentine's day video don't ya think?
1 likei think it her mom
0 likesWow just realized that this video got uploaded 2 minutes ago
1 likeGood thinking sawtooth
0 likesWow nice video
0 likesIt could be true
1 likeWhen your early and you don't know what to say ._.
1 likeI watch your video very quickly
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0 likesAh I’m early for once lol
1 like39 views? 245 likes? 95 comments?
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What if... hear me out... Cadance doesn't exist
2 likesYay!
0 likesHi love your vids keep it up and dare you to say my name
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0 likesAm I the only one who is waiting for sawtooth waves to make a vid about g5
0 likesJust me
OK then
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Because drwolf does
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YouTube is drunk once again
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Well yes but no
0 likesDrunk Youtube : No views 42 likes and four comments
0 likesMe: Can I see the comments at least
Drunk Youtube: Nope 😁
Hey sawtooth! I have something for you to solve wanna hear it?¿
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Ooooo
1 likeI think the prince is prince blueblood
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It’s not. They look nothing alike and Twilight said it happens a long time ago, long before Blueblood was born
0 likesWhat if he commanded one of his subjects to do a spell to make him look more different
0 likesOr even went on a misson to make his life longer
0 likesWhat if the prince was sombra before he became a King and it was his kingdom that fell cause he loved that pony so much and desperate the get it back on track after he realize what has happened he found something which turned him evil and he became king sombra and trapped the ponies until the heart was found which intertwines Candance and Sombra story and the story with the love potion together. What if sombra was the reason, what if the crystal empire was actually his and because he turned evil instead of actually restoring it he enslaved them control their mind with fear, what happens if he didnt get vaporize but instead reformed and realized what he has done, thinking he still had to save his kingdom just like how the pillars didnt know what century they were in.
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Nope. Sombra is a unicorn.
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0 likes16 minutes late squad
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0 likesLoraine Foley is that right? So I am 8 so ya bye
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0 likesAll these comments are seconds ago.
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1 likeNão tem nada a ver
0 likesY’all tryna be first so bad
1 likeI guess
0 likesWhy was everything posted 6 hours ago cuz it was out 7 hours ago 6
0 likesCadance is not the princess mentioned.. I think she is the princesses daughter. It is possible Cadance's mother was the past Princess of the Crystal Empire. In a lot of episodes, it says The Crystal Empire had fallen. Which makes me think that story is true.
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You’re 28th
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