cadence literally came out of nowhere and a princess 💀 they owe us a bigger backstory

Princess Amore mother of Cadence video call princess Amore story<br>You need see sawtooth sad story 😢😢

Princess Amore mother of Cadence video call princess Amore story
You need see sawtooth sad story 😢😢

@Backstauber Damn I understand being frustrated about not having a backstory for Cadence, but hating on her is too much. She could use more development, but she is a delightful pony.

I like her because of her history with Twilight and her colors


Can we all agree Cadance has the most beautiful singing voice

Chrysalis has an amazing singing voice too.

I think 🤔 cadence is the most beautiful  princess 👸🏼

I. Think 🤔  cadance  is the 👸🏼 of  love 💖

I. Think 🤔  cadance  is the 👸🏼 of  love 💖

Her voice in "You'll Play Your Part" is absolutely amazing

defo i really love her singing voice and i still think we need to see and hear more of her (even if the series is over)

Yeah even her talking voice is to royal and good I still don't understand why she is so underrated


This explains why her full name "mi amore cadenza" translates to "I love cadence". Maybe after the super strong spell was broken, the only "name" she remembered having was the one thing the stallion kept repeating. That's why her name is Cadence and not "Cadence of the heart and soul" or something.

7 a lepší a lepší a lepší a lepší 🍋🍌🐈⬛🦒w a lepší a levnější než v roce se mi zdá se že se zeptat zda je to v pohodě ale i v pohodě ale i v pohodě ale i v pohodě ale i v pohodě ale i na tom případě je 🐯🤨


I'm not trying to defend Cadance's actions, but it would make sense that her love spell created a sense of "puppy love" in the couple instead of something more profound-- Cadance is a teenager at this time, and having been one, teenagers tend to have a warped perception of love. At that time, love is hormonal, senseless, and distracting. I can't count the times I neglected to tell my partners what was wrong in the relationships when I was younger, because I was simply too distracted by the few good moments to stop and think about the mountain of bad. Cadance hasn't done anything like that in the present because she's an adult, and probably has had time to mature her understanding of love beyond that "puppy love" we see her force on the arguing couple.


I think that perhaps she is their daughter and that’s why she can do the “love” spell, because her parents were affected by the potion.

I think that perhaps she is their daughter and that’s why she can do the “love” spell, because her parents were affected by the potion.

@Rosa Cat in the new generation we learn you dont have to be

@Rosa Cat in the new generation we learn you dont have to be

YEAH I WAS GONNA SAY-<br>I doubt she was the victim 😭😭😭

YEAH I WAS GONNA SAY-
I doubt she was the victim 😭😭😭

SAME ITS OLSO A REALLY GREAT ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!

SAME ITS OLSO A REALLY GREAT ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!

That would be sus…her parents made her right away or something? Kinda weird brooooo

That would be sus…her parents made her right away or something? Kinda weird brooooo

Yeah it makes sense if you look at the book she was abandoned at a lil foal

Yeah it makes sense if you look at the book she was abandoned at a lil foal

@Rosa Cat no, its literally canon because in the book cadence is a pegusai

@Rosa Cat no, its literally canon because in the book cadence is a pegusai

But she didn't have the magical ability to cast spells because she was born a pegasus

But she didn't have the magical ability to cast spells because she was born a pegasus

That has a lot of evidence but who knows

That has a lot of evidence but who knows

@Rosa Cat no actually , from the book it says shes a pegasas

@Rosa Cat no actually , from the book it says shes a pegasas

Hey how can cadence be their daughter you have to remember that celestia and Luna is two princesses none of them are prince silly

Hey how can cadence be their daughter you have to remember that celestia and Luna is two princesses none of them are prince silly

@Rosa Cat Nope! Cadence was a Pegasus, it doesn't matter what way around !! I believe that even an earth pony can become an alicorn with enough magic

@Rosa Cat Nope! Cadence was a Pegasus, it doesn't matter what way around !! I believe that even an earth pony can become an alicorn with enough magic

Yes you are right I mean a love potion can also be resuluted as a foal and that foal is 100% Cadence. I mean her father created the love potion and she knows the love spell might be a genetic ability from father to daughter.

and the alicorn-ness is hereditary and that’s why flurryheart also recieved it without directly earning it

and the alicorn-ness is hereditary and that’s why flurryheart also recieved it without directly earning it

@Rosa Cat <br>im not so sure with "you must be a unicorn to turn into an alicorn" like in MLP: The New Generation; Sunny turned into an alicorn even though she was an earth pony. So that could lead to the conclusion that the way to be an alicorn is not by if your and alicorn or not; but if you earn the magic of all 3 pony colonies from doing a major action in an event.

@Rosa Cat
im not so sure with "you must be a unicorn to turn into an alicorn" like in MLP: The New Generation; Sunny turned into an alicorn even though she was an earth pony. So that could lead to the conclusion that the way to be an alicorn is not by if your and alicorn or not; but if you earn the magic of all 3 pony colonies from doing a major action in an event.

(Opinion ) maybe twilight's parents is hiding  that shining armor is a
earth pony and he had feelings or cadence and told his parents and
He made a love potion and then out of control princess Celestia came and separated them until they found real love thay they turned shining armor in to a unicorn

@Rosa Cat that is not true, any pony can become an  alicorn.

@Rosa Cat that is not true, any pony can become an  alicorn.

@~ Lucid_Nightmares ~ No cus of what Celestia and Luna said when Flurry was born....

@~ Lucid_Nightmares ~ No cus of what Celestia and Luna said when Flurry was born....

@Tangle Hamain But Celestia and Luna had to have been naturally born alicorns. I mean, that would make sense why their roles are so important, plus the fact that they were the first princesses. Cadence and Twilight are not naturally born alicorns, and basing on how Twilight became a princess, wouldn't Cadence have to go through the same process?

Same,so she grow Thinking that that was okay but celestea came and taught her that that's not the way that  should go and that she can't do that

Same,so she grow Thinking that that was okay but celestea came and taught her that that's not the way that  should go and that she can't do that

i also think that they were so distracted by their love for eachother, they never had time to love cadence. so basically celestia had to raise cadence??? this is just a theory-

@Tangle Hamain flurry heart was the first alicorn that was born an alicorn, not the first child of a alicorn-

@Tangle Hamain flurry heart was the first alicorn that was born an alicorn, not the first child of a alicorn-

I thought the same thing! It's still a really believable story that he has shared.

I thought the same thing! It's still a really believable story that he has shared.

I think canden is the pin session or not

I think canden is the pin session or not

that's exactly what im thinking. it would make sense, considering the show has seemed to confirm magic is, to a degree, genetic in some ways.

that's exactly what im thinking. it would make sense, considering the show has seemed to confirm magic is, to a degree, genetic in some ways.

AND THATS WHY PRINCESS C CAME TO HER RESCUE!

AND THATS WHY PRINCESS C CAME TO HER RESCUE!

@Tangle Hamain she probably forgot ab. That

@Tangle Hamain she probably forgot ab. That

But now that I think about that twice it can’t be possible because cadence turned into an Alicorn by celestia

But now that I think about that twice it can’t be possible because cadence turned into an Alicorn by celestia

@Rosa Cat no you don't (or the ponys i mean) what about cozy glow apparently she was an alicorn and ahe was a pegasus

@Rosa Cat no you don't (or the ponys i mean) what about cozy glow apparently she was an alicorn and ahe was a pegasus

@Rosa Cat cadence WASENT a unicorn.....<br>She was a Pegasi

@Rosa Cat cadence WASENT a unicorn.....
She was a Pegasi

i thought of the same, like what if it was her ancestor or parents or grandparents?

i thought of the same, like what if it was her ancestor or parents or grandparents?

Hey look up YouTube channel it’s powerpuffgirl1230

Hey look up YouTube channel it’s powerpuffgirl1230

@Seven colour dreams No,the prince was an earth pony,but it's still possible considering the cake twins were both unicorn and pegasus,but their parents were earth ponies.

But then why would celestia and luna never have seen an baby born an alicorn, wouldn't when they met cadence have asked and she would have said she was born that way?

I think your comment makes some  sense and I think that princess who was effected had given birth to cadence before she was dead

I think your comment makes some  sense and I think that princess who was effected had given birth to cadence before she was dead

Mhm, and it makes a lot of sense because Cadence’s daughter is also an alicorn!

Mhm, and it makes a lot of sense because Cadence’s daughter is also an alicorn!

Maybe but remember the prince and the princes splite up or he found someone else and the potion already absorbed into her dna but that what i think tho

Maybe but remember the prince and the princes splite up or he found someone else and the potion already absorbed into her dna but that what i think tho

@Armando Lico Nah Cadence was not a princess yet as she was born as just a pegasus but she got to become an Alicorn quite early on so yeah- Hmmmm-

@Armando Lico Nah Cadence was not a princess yet as she was born as just a pegasus but she got to become an Alicorn quite early on so yeah- Hmmmm-

but she was jut a- ohhhhhhhhh makes sense wait we dont really- ok the father..ye but why did they just leave her until she was found? she was a princess kind of..

@Tangle Hamain your probably confused and im confused myself about the story

@Tangle Hamain your probably confused and im confused myself about the story

Cadance is now an alicorn but like I said, might have been born a Pegasus. Just like the theory that she is the daughter of the two, it is a theory and may not be real.

It’s just a theory, like the video says, she could be the daughter of the two. It’s a theory.

It’s just a theory, like the video says, she could be the daughter of the two. It’s a theory.

@Bianca torres gonzalez she... Was... Born....pegasus

@Bianca torres gonzalez she... Was... Born....pegasus

@Rosa Cat it was celestia who can make her an alicorn seriously tia is the only one who can make ponies an alicorn

@Rosa Cat it was celestia who can make her an alicorn seriously tia is the only one who can make ponies an alicorn

@reeka she waaaas born Pegasus and was not the daughter of the two

@reeka she waaaas born Pegasus and was not the daughter of the two

@Tangle Hamain and cadance isn't in the book

@Tangle Hamain and cadance isn't in the book

Lol she can't be born like this when they are affected by the love potion

Lol she can't be born like this when they are affected by the love potion

Autocorrect, sorry, where it says “Ali pens”, I meant to say “Alicorns”. My bad!! Also, the theory of Cadance being born a Pegasus is not confirmed, so this is just a thought.

I don’t think that proves she was a unicorn to start with, she might’ve just said that because she hadn’t practiced flying in a while. In Sawtooths other video where he is solving Ali pens, he says that in order to become an alicorn you most likely have to have energy from all three pony kinds. So it is possible that Cadance was a Pegasus to start with, and therefore became an alicorn (got her horn) because Princess Celestia gave her magic from all three pony kinda. No hate here, just expressing my my thoughts!

@LZH1703 its wrong she became an alicorrn like twilight after deafting prisimia and she became a royal niece of celestia and she got her cutie mark as the crystal heart ❤  and she knew that she'll rule one fay

Totally agree. There's a reason pregnant mothers aren't supposed to drink alcohol, smoke, use certain medications or use recreational substances. Because the chemicals will have an effect on the baby. The princess could have got pregnant with Cadence while under the influence and if Cadence was also born an alicorn like Flurry that still wouldn't contradict Celestia saying alicorns weren't born in Equestria. The kingdom from the story could have been outside Equestria's borders.

@Ashwitha Peddi(Student) Either way, I think she is possibly handing it down, like generation from generation, just unsure of the connection

@Ashwitha Peddi(Student) Either way, I think she is possibly handing it down, like generation from generation, just unsure of the connection

Possibly she is the daughter and because the parents were separated she stayed with her father, because of this she was raised under 'love.' And maybe since this story was a long time ago, her father must've died and Caydence is using the baby sitting services as a way of spreading the spell her father had used on her mother? But it is just a theory of mine.

thats what i thought too... or maybe a granddaughter

thats what i thought too... or maybe a granddaughter

@Spooktacular  I can't believe you replying to me. Hope you reply to this one!😃

@Spooktacular  I can't believe you replying to me. Hope you reply to this one!😃

@Sonia Shanker well she might have been the book is still not cannon

@Sonia Shanker well she might have been the book is still not cannon

Before we stay princess Caden is her daughter we need to learn more duh!

Before we stay princess Caden is her daughter we need to learn more duh!

Before we say princess Caden is her daughter we need to learn more duh!

Before we say princess Caden is her daughter we need to learn more duh!

@Rosa Cat that is not true cadance was originally a pegasus

@Rosa Cat that is not true cadance was originally a pegasus

i gave u a like bc u used proper gramar......."affected"....

i gave u a like bc u used proper gramar......."affected"....

@Tanbir H not really, it just means she is their daughter

@Tanbir H not really, it just means she is their daughter

But that seems to contradict the fact that an Alicorn birth is "something Equestria has never seen" - your theory would suggest that Cadence could possibly be the first Alicorn birth.

@Aleeza It was never said that Celestia was born an alicorn..

@Aleeza It was never said that Celestia was born an alicorn..

@Tangle Hamain celestia was born alicorn. so I was thinking that they have seen birth of alicorns before but back when they lived outside of equastria and it was the first time they saw the birth of an alicorn in equastria since they probably had to become alicorns like twighlight and cadence

@Tangle Hamain  Maybe Celestia & Luna said that because they didn’t want the main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn

@Tangle Hamain  Maybe Celestia & Luna said that because they didn’t want the main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn

@LZH1703 We know that cadence was a pegasus prior to being an alicorn.

@LZH1703 We know that cadence was a pegasus prior to being an alicorn.

@Tangle Hamain I thought they said that in the show

@Tangle Hamain I thought they said that in the show

Not in use - no more edits for real so don’t

@Miniş Dünyası No, cus the birth of an Alicorn was never a thing until Flurry Heart- The princesses said it themselves!

@Miniş Dünyası No, cus the birth of an Alicorn was never a thing until Flurry Heart- The princesses said it themselves!

@Rosa Cat Where does it say you HAVE to be a unicorn to be an Alicorn?

@Rosa Cat Where does it say you HAVE to be a unicorn to be an Alicorn?

Maybe she wasn’t their daughter, but she helped break the spell. I’m not saying her being their daughter is wrong or bad, but I think it’s more likely that she helped break the spell, rather than be a product of it.

Yeah I thougt the same.. connects to the orfant story of her.. ^^

Yeah I thougt the same.. connects to the orfant story of her.. ^^

That is exactly what I thought too! Personality I thought younger cadence was a teen and i don’t think she would’ve fallen in love at that age :/

That is exactly what I thought too! Personality I thought younger cadence was a teen and i don’t think she would’ve fallen in love at that age :/

I think she is an alicorn since she got to babysit ponies, not since she was born

I think she is an alicorn since she got to babysit ponies, not since she was born

@LZH1703 it was stated that Cadence was born a pegasus :>

@LZH1703 it was stated that Cadence was born a pegasus :>

But then she would have been born alicorn since she had and alicorn mother! Just like Flurry Heart was born alicorn and had an alicorn mother

But then she would have been born alicorn since she had and alicorn mother! Just like Flurry Heart was born alicorn and had an alicorn mother

@Tangle Hamain That doesn't make sense because in the book we see an adult alicorn, but when she did the spell she was just a little pony.

@Tangle Hamain That doesn't make sense because in the book we see an adult alicorn, but when she did the spell she was just a little pony.

I thought the same! Either way it's a fun theory

I thought the same! Either way it's a fun theory

true that could be that Alicorn looked older

true that could be that Alicorn looked older

Like in Rapunzel her parents ate soup with a healing flower and now well i think you understand

Like in Rapunzel her parents ate soup with a healing flower and now well i think you understand

I figured this makes more sense too. Because that would explain why she did not need to make a potion 🧪, and she is extremely young (like a teenager) as “Twilights foul sitter”.

... P. S. Then I forgot that “the birth of alicorns was a mystery even to Celesta & Luna, but that might have been a white lie diversion too not traumatize the moment FlurryHearts birth to Cadence & company, and ruin the unique/uncanny celebration... especially of the Royal Crystaling 👑 which I almost forgot about!

but then wouldent there be something about her mom (princess) in mlp?

but then wouldent there be something about her mom (princess) in mlp?

@Tangle Hamain Celastia could give her wing aflter something exeptionnal she did (maybe save her parents form the spell and teach them what is love or something like that)

@yamary figueroa well maybe she was a good person and some how become a princes and than got the love potion like twilight

@yamary figueroa well maybe she was a good person and some how become a princes and than got the love potion like twilight

Yeah but remember there was three princess there is only two before she became princess

Yeah but remember there was three princess there is only two before she became princess

Yeah but remember she's was the third princess there was only two before she was announced princess

Yeah but remember she's was the third princess there was only two before she was announced princess

@Miniş Dünyası yes but they said that flurry hearth was the first bron alicorn and cadence said that as well

@Miniş Dünyası yes but they said that flurry hearth was the first bron alicorn and cadence said that as well

@Rosa Cat actually in canon cadence was a Pegasus before she became an alicorn so you frogot that<br>And it may be in a book,but atleast it’s more canon then other theories we have

@Rosa Cat actually in canon cadence was a Pegasus before she became an alicorn so you frogot that
And it may be in a book,but atleast it’s more canon then other theories we have

If Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)

@LZH1703  maybe she was a unicorn and got her wings when she first  saved someone relationship

@LZH1703  maybe she was a unicorn and got her wings when she first  saved someone relationship

omg your so right but ... I dont think they ware an actual cupel they ware in a spell so im not saying i have any other idea im just saying you may wanna think more about it

@Bianca torres gonzalez I know that she is an alicorn. I thought like sometime during the episode, the wings in the book disappeared. But yeah, she is an alicorn.

I thought the same as well! Or maybe it was her mother and not father and she wanted others to feel what she did-? Idk

I thought the same as well! Or maybe it was her mother and not father and she wanted others to feel what she did-? Idk

@SilverLuna actually she is a alicorn :^ her wings are kinda in the corner of the image but your right i think cadence got her wings couse she saved a village just a though :)

@Bianca torres gonzalez I don't think Cadance was an alicorn when born, but a pegasus. She got her wings when she realized the meaning of true love. Now about her mom... IDK. The alicorn with the love poison is sometimes portrayed as a unicorn so...

Same but what pony was her mom then? Celestial never mentioned another alicorn princess and about everyone saying no because flurry was the first alicorn ever to be born an alicorn ..... WHO IS SAYING CADENCE WAS A ALICORN WHEN SHE WAS BORN ... no one ..... no ofende also i dont mean to ofend anyone :)

Her parents could be the past rulers of the Crystal Empire. Find my comment if you want to know the full story! Or, I can just  post it here maybe.

Her parents could be the past rulers of the Crystal Empire. Find my comment if you want to know the full story! Or, I can just  post it here maybe.

@Christnappa4 Voldemort was conceived via rape with the use of Amortentia and thus was unable to love. If Cadence was conceived in a similar way, assuming love potions/poisons work the same way in this universe, no way she'd be the Princess of Love. She wouldn't be able to know love. If love potions/poisons don't work the same way in this universe, well that's just silly.

That what I was going to say. It does make sense tho

That what I was going to say. It does make sense tho

What's funny and terrifying is that is somewhat the same backstory of Voldemort.

What's funny and terrifying is that is somewhat the same backstory of Voldemort.

OKAY just got a check it is black and I got a ticket for? Men      soln

OKAY just got a check it is black and I got a ticket for? Men      soln

@Rosa Cat On the MLP wikipedia page for Candace, it says "Alicorn. Formerly pegasus" and a writer for the show has confirmed this

@Rosa Cat On the MLP wikipedia page for Candace, it says "Alicorn. Formerly pegasus" and a writer for the show has confirmed this

Ooh, love this. Like the potion was genetically passed down in her genes? Even if she DID start as a pegasus, that magic could've laid dormant (like many inactive "sleeper" genes) until getting a horn triggered it.

⚫ 𝓒𝓪𝓷𝓭𝔂 𝓒𝓱𝓪𝓷 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓟𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 🐼

@Rosa Cat no ive heard that anyone can become an alicorn, a lot of people think that cadance was a pegasus from the start. but yes, you could be right

@Rosa Cat no ive heard that anyone can become an alicorn, a lot of people think that cadance was a pegasus from the start. but yes, you could be right

The real question is was the prince a Pegasus? If so then it can be possible. As her past story says that she was an abandoned baby Pegasus. Maybe they left her in fear that if people knows who she is she'll be in danger

This makes sense considering she was taken in when she was younger so this could be why, her parents were too overcome with love to look after her. Maybe this is why she became an alicorn, she was already a princess so maybe Celestia didn't seek her out because she did something like Twilight did (create new magic) but maybe she did it because she knew of her royal blood. Or maybe she took her in then she made new magic, maybe she took her parents spell and recreated it to be a love potion to help solve issues between couples.

I kind of think shes their daughter too. Also just so some of you know in the comic it says that cadence was born a pegasus.

I kind of think shes their daughter too. Also just so some of you know in the comic it says that cadence was born a pegasus.

@Faith Taylor Ok, but how did she become an alicorn without Celestia, tho?

@Faith Taylor Ok, but how did she become an alicorn without Celestia, tho?

@reeka yeah, I hope he makes a video on how she became an alicorn so young

@reeka yeah, I hope he makes a video on how she became an alicorn so young

@chae I don't know but I think that would effect the theory to much if that where true

@chae I don't know but I think that would effect the theory to much if that where true

@LZH1703 it said no allicorn was born before flurry heart

@LZH1703 it said no allicorn was born before flurry heart

Wait call me dumb but I just wanna say something didn’t it say in the book she was found in a forest and Princess Celestia adopted her as her niece?

Wait call me dumb but I just wanna say something didn’t it say in the book she was found in a forest and Princess Celestia adopted her as her niece?

@LZH1703 not a born one. she became an alicorn after she did a love spell.

@LZH1703 not a born one. she became an alicorn after she did a love spell.

@LZH1703 CELELSTIA AND LUNA ARE HIPICRITS

@LZH1703 CELELSTIA AND LUNA ARE HIPICRITS

@Ashwitha Peddi(Student) I know, but she used magic or something to become an alicorn

@Ashwitha Peddi(Student) I know, but she used magic or something to become an alicorn

@reeka You must be a unicorn to become an alicorn

@reeka You must be a unicorn to become an alicorn

@LZH1703 i dont think she was born alicorn, flurry heart was the first known alicorn that was born an alicorn. I think Cadance was born a pegasus (if this theory is true and she is the daughter of the two), and then she earned her horn from Celestia

Cant be cus the birth from an alicorn was never a thing until Flurry Heart came along- So Cadence was not the daughter of the Alicorn in the book, pretty sure its Cadence herself-


I think I connected the dots, so thanks for the help with this! I think the alicorn was Cadence's mother, they had Cadence, and due to the love poison, I think that's why Cadence can do it to other ponies. She gained some of the love poison genes or whatever you should call it, then now she can use it to make other ponies act like they just drank the potion a little. Also, the kingdom they talk about could very well be the Crystal Empire! It fell because the two royals were distracted when King Sombra bowed to darkness, with the events of Sawtooth's theory of Sombra's past coming before. But what does everyone think? How could this fit into the lore of My Little Pony?

In comics the canon timeline that was put forth is that the queen of the crystal empire is a distant relative of Cadence and the queen was "killed" (tho technically not actually dead as Hasbro has a no death rule for mlp) and then Sombra took over. so if you accept the comics as canon, then no that queen is not the same character as the princess from the hearts and hooves story.


I have some ideas. Personally,I believe that maybe the spell used on the princess,went on for so long it had grown attached to her. When Celestial broke the spell,the magic of it stuck with Cadence,and it became her element. As Cadence started recovering from the years she spent trapped in her spell,she found comfort in helping others with love. She was young,and didn't understand that her spell was not helping,because that was all she knew. Slowly,she grew as a person and found the meaning behind healthy and true love. Hearts and hooves day was created as a celebration of the day she was freed!


I belive that Cadence is the love Child of the Prince and Alicorn and Celestia took her in and made sure she was okay.

Viola Moon  Yes, that's how I think it happened too.

@cess_14 Even though the Pony in the book had been depicted as an Alicorn it doesn’t necessarily mean that cadence would have been born one as previously said when flurry heart was born celestial and Luna had never seen anything like that before and keep in mind that the male was an earth pony.


Recovering from abusive and codependent relationships is a very real struggle. But it teaches you how to love in a healthier way by setting boundaries and communicating your needs instead of relying on fairy tale type love. Honestly, a pony that had been through that process very much deserves to be the princess of love!


Also how did Cadnce earn her cutie mark? No one knew the crystal Empire existed.

@☆MCAgent8☆ she already had a cutie mark when she saved the crystal empire tho

@Zoe Jacobs isn’t that fan video with a song

Um no she was a alicorn in the flashback not a Pegasus there was a alicorn

@BugoyTheDoge I didn't know there was a comic

@Jack Sparrow At the flashback, Princess Cadence had a horn. She just had Pegasus wings.

You are wrong there, because Twilight,Celastia and probably Luna too, oh and also Cadance might be from the cristal empire, that's why the crystal ponies accepted her so easily so there you have it.

@Jack Sparrow cadence was still a alicorn back then

It's a heart so she probably got it while spreading love<br>It just had a double signification since it was made of crystal, but she learnt the other signification only later on

It's a heart so she probably got it while spreading love
It just had a double signification since it was made of crystal, but she learnt the other signification only later on

It could represent the love spell she is gifted in and how she represents love between ponies as well as her future role as the princess of the Crystal Empire. Similar to how Twilight’s represents both her strong magic ability along with her future connection to the elements of harmony.

As other people have said, cutie marks don't always represent the present. It represents the pony's destiny. For example if we look at Twilights cutie mark it's the symbol for the element of magic with 5 small stars surrounding it representing the friends she would make in ponyville and their elements. Ofc at first she thought it just represented her talent for magic but Celestia noticed the connection to the elements of friendship<br>Cadence most likely did something in the name of love when she got her cutie mark. And ofc it represents her future rule of the crystal empire as well

As other people have said, cutie marks don't always represent the present. It represents the pony's destiny. For example if we look at Twilights cutie mark it's the symbol for the element of magic with 5 small stars surrounding it representing the friends she would make in ponyville and their elements. Ofc at first she thought it just represented her talent for magic but Celestia noticed the connection to the elements of friendship
Cadence most likely did something in the name of love when she got her cutie mark. And ofc it represents her future rule of the crystal empire as well

Cutie marks don't necessarily represent the present. Perhaps the connection to the crystal empire simply wasn't recognized as it didn't exist, and everyone thought her cutie mark just meant love because of the heart shape. It's possible that her cutie mark knew that part of her destiny before she did.

@Jack Sparrow no cadence was still a alicorn

@☆MCAgent8☆ she had her cutie mark way before that

Maybe cadence, because of her destiny, was already gifted a cutie mark. Cadence was seemingly born with overwhelming love and kindness within her, maybe just bc the empire was still disappeared, her destiny couldn't be completed yet, but she still completed much of it as the princess of love.

I think she earned her cutie mark by spreading love around her. She didn't know specifically that she was going to rule a long lost kingdom, but she knew she was going to have some kind of destiny. She knew her destiny was something to with love and when she found out that the Crystal Empire needed love to protect itself she knew thats where she needed to be. SHe could protect the Empire with the love she spreads.

By spreading love, she was the only pegasus in the earth pony town, but she was a friend.

Except the princesses and the Empire vanished in the frozen north for a 1000 yrs.<br>Edit:the princesses saved the empire from king sombra.

Except the princesses and the Empire vanished in the frozen north for a 1000 yrs.
Edit:the princesses saved the empire from king sombra.

I have the answer to that.<br>In the book that was mentioned at the beginning of the video it's explained. Cadence lived in a small town that was being terrorized by a witch. Cadence ended up stealing a crystal heart necklace from her and discovered that the necklace was what was making the witch evil, Cadence helped the witch and then found herself in the same place that Twilight was in when she got her wings. Cadence got her horn and cutie mark at the same time and then went to live with Celestia

I have the answer to that.
In the book that was mentioned at the beginning of the video it's explained. Cadence lived in a small town that was being terrorized by a witch. Cadence ended up stealing a crystal heart necklace from her and discovered that the necklace was what was making the witch evil, Cadence helped the witch and then found herself in the same place that Twilight was in when she got her wings. Cadence got her horn and cutie mark at the same time and then went to live with Celestia

I always assumed her cutie mark represented the love spell she could do rather than the Crystal Empire

@Junko Enoshima cadence babysat twilight and she was a pegasus in the flashback so chances are cadence is not even close to being as old as celestia and luna

@Junko Enoshima well she doesn’t very look very old, only somewhat 15 years ago she was just regular sized, so I don’t think she’s old since Twilight didn’t take like 100 years to grow and have her hair all moving

Well the princesses are quite old 1000+ according to the story so Cadance may be a similar age back when the crystal empire still existed


the love spell Cadance put on the couple, i think she made them realize that a pedicure isn't important and spending time and help financially with their spouse is much more important and helped them make a better decision


A theory I personally like is that Twilight was groomed from the very beginning to be next in line for the throne, Celesta saw her potential, and knew she would be the next princess, so to prepare her she made cadence her foulsitter so she can get used to being around royalty.


I always wanted to know about cadence thank you and I truly think Kayden is the princess in the book I can't wait to see another video


A part of me wants to think she’s their daughter, but when Flurryheart was born, everyone was surprised that she was an Alocorn, including Cadence


I usually assumed the Prince and Princess were either Cadence’s parents , grandparents, or relatives in some other way💖

That’s the one that makes more sense to me because if it’s her parents it explains why her name was literally Love, and would mean she grew up watching an unhealthy marriage based on magic and taking people’s choice away. Which is why true love is what she seeks so desperately with her magic, and why Celestia took her under her wing, to let her see as many families as possible, and avoid her arguing parents. Which explains why as a teenager she’s just focused on making the fighting stop, not fixing the issue. It would be a wonderful basis for WHY her relationship with Shining Armor is so strong, especially because she would have seen Twilight’s parents and their theoretically healthy marriage - teaching her to finally find a love based on equals and choice, and how that pure love led to Flurry Heart, an Alicorn we’ve never seen before - symbolic of breaking the cycle of unhealthy relationships. (Cuz let’s be real, royalty doesn’t tend to lead to the happiest of marriages - looking at you Henry the 8th.)

@Nataliaher backstory is in the book her parents are unknown she was brought up in a earth pony village then a evil thing came wanted steal love she blah blah defeated teleported somewhere= alicorn stay with celestia ya ya ya the yup

@Natalia celestia didn't say she was the first alicorn she said she was really shocked because they had never seen an alicorn norm expect themselves

@Miniş Dünyası nope this is all wrong the mlp creators just made characters with no backstory they just made them and don't expect people to ask so may questions lol

@Pastel KittyYT  In season 6 when Twilight and her friends found out that Flurry Heart was born as an alicorn ,Celestia had said that no pony had ever been born as an alicorn

I would say that they are ancestors of Cadence because she seem to young for that to ever have happened to her

@Natalia actually, princess amore is princess cadance's, like, great-great-great-great-great-grandmother but they ARE distantly related, and also,  im pretty sure  princess amore is an alicorn, at least in the wiki i think

No it's Pinkie Pie she dressed up as an Alicorn pls don't question me

@Pastel KittyYT 🦄👸🏾🤴🏿🦄👸🏾🤴🏿🍫🧜🏾♀🦋

@Pastel KittyYT 🦄👸🏾🤴🏿🦄👸🏾🤴🏿🍫🧜🏾♀🦋

She had to be a relative because I feel that cadence is way to young for love in general when she was foal sitting Twilight

@Narwulf Well in some cases, genes can skip a generation. Cadence could’ve been born a pegasus to an alicorn and (I assume) an earth pony. It’s not that far a stretch. Just look at the Cake family

@Natalia Maybe Celestia & Luna didn’t want The Main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn. With the shock of Flurry Heart it might have not been the right time and place to sat that Cadence was born as an Alicorn.

@Addie She was a princess when babysitting Twilight. At least in "A Canterlot Wedding"

But I don't actually think so or else you realize that when she was a babysitter she wasn't a princess so that's why I don't think that her parents or any relative

Perhaps Viola but celestia never saw a alicorn baby so I doubt it but she could have been born not a alicorn but if she had became an alicorn then why? Why would celestia give her the ability to be a alicorn and if cadence was born a alicorn wouldn’t celestia saw her as a small foul

I thought they were her parents or grandparents because that would explain how she became a alicorn and how her daughter was born one, maybe she was born a alicorn and it's genetics that made her daughter born one.

@teena bhardwaj This is like The Lion King.but just with Ponies

@teena bhardwaj This is like The Lion King.but just with Ponies

@Miniş Dünyası I think the name of princess mi amore cadenza ,s mother is amore

☆𝒞𝓊𝓇ℯ ℱ𝓁ℴ𝓇𝒶 ☆

@Miniş Dünyası sombra has a horn that prince in the picture doesn’t

@Narwulf Maybe cadence was born in a unknown land or maybe even was a channeling that Somone was a good one <br>And she made Celestia think she is a Pegasus

@Narwulf Maybe cadence was born in a unknown land or maybe even was a channeling that Somone was a good one
And she made Celestia think she is a Pegasus

@Narwulf that could make sense she could be love a pegasus but then celestia made her a alicorn and she gained the power of the love potion

You are maybe right like the princess can be cadence 's  grand mother and the potion that was given to her grandmother  never ended in real and the effect of the love potion was moving thought heditatory and that is why it can be true that flurry hart also have the same magic

@Kristinne Lapsa they said they had never SEEN but they didn't say that it was the first time a baby was born as an alicorn

@Narwulf  we don't have proof about that. think about this- Celestia and Luna said that they had never seen the BIRTH of an alicorn before. This still opens a possibility that they HAD seen a natural alicorn before, but not it's BIRTH. And this natural alicorn was Cadence. It actually connects quite well with the theory sawtooth has put in this video.

@Natalia Princess Amore is in The Comics and Comics aren’t 100% Canon. But if Cadence’s parents were normal ponies Cadence most likely outlived them. They weren’t in The Canterlot Wedding. And Cadence must have been living for a while since in The Season 4 Finale Tirek knew Cadence that’s why Cadence and The Royal Sisters gave their Magic to Twilight. And Tirek was gone for a Thousand Years so Cadence is probably over A Thousand Years Old.

I think princess amore is princess cadance mom, their share the same destiny and similar cutie mark

@Miniş Dünyası and who is cadance mom , a lotta people also think Princess Amore is Princess Candace mom

@Miniş Dünyasıthen why does the regal princess need to lie

@Miniş Dünyasıthen why does the regal princess need to lie

@Natalia Maybe Celestia & Luna said that because they didn’t want the main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn

@Miniş Dünyası but then Princess Celestia won't say flurry heart is the first born Alicorn

@Pastel KittyYT actually i don't think cadence was born as a alicorn, don't you remember the episode when flurry heart was born they said it was the first time a baby was born as an alicorn.

If Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)

@Pastel KittyYT Cadence was originally a Pegasi, and like Celestia said flurry was the first born Alicorn.

it might make sense cause i feel like cadence wasnt surprised by flurry heart being born an alicorn so maybe she was also born as an alicorn that is if we go with that theory


i’ve always thought that cadence became an alicorn because she created that love spell and was the only one to know how to cast it (as far as we know), similar to how twilight finished starswirl’s spell.<br>Never thought about the sketchy part, but it may be because she was still very young in that flashback scene, thus immature and inexperienced in love. i imagine she controls the effect of the spell and (mis)judged that the puppy eyes was the best way to deal with the issue.

i’ve always thought that cadence became an alicorn because she created that love spell and was the only one to know how to cast it (as far as we know), similar to how twilight finished starswirl’s spell.
Never thought about the sketchy part, but it may be because she was still very young in that flashback scene, thus immature and inexperienced in love. i imagine she controls the effect of the spell and (mis)judged that the puppy eyes was the best way to deal with the issue.


I like how you focus so hard on MLP and make up these very interesting theories!


Wait I love this! I'm never going to be able to look at Cadence the same!


Omg this makes so much sense because if this did happen and “cadences kingdom fell” it could have fallen because king sombra took over, and when cadences  came back it was too late because celestia had already banished king sombra but he took the kingdom with it. So when celestia freed cadences she felt terrible so never did those spells again.


Do you think its possible that cadence knows an even longer lasting love spell, and cast it on shining armor when she used to have that crutch. eventually shining armor thought the love was real and their whole reletionship stated on or might even be a spell?


As much as I’d LOVE this theory, I have to say we need to take in Chrysalis into account aswell. Chrysalis’s form is in the form of an alicorn and based off of both Celestia’s and Luna’s reactions in the wedding episode we can confirm she has been alive for a long time, and that
Celestia knows Chrysalis. Its uncertain that if luna knows Chrysalis, but we do know that Celestia does. I’d also like to bring in the fact of how tall Chrysalis is. As we know when you are an alicorn you grow if you have been alive for a very long time. We ALSO know that Chrysalis feeds on love and is the queen of the changelings. What if Chrysalis was the pony in the story, and in order to break free she had to result to who she is now? Or maybe it is the effects of the potion that continues to change her form and instead of being in love with someone she has to feed on it because the other pony is gone? I think Chrysalis being the pony of the story/ maybe being the past queen would make a lot of sense of her being apart of the equation aswell. Putting Cadence into the spotlight does makes sense, but what about Chrysalis? There are many things that we have to question. Id also like to bring in the my little pony comic. Supposedly there was a “reverse” comic, and Chrysalis was in it, and she looked to be the queen. There is a specific theory I am also referring to its called, “Who is the lost crystal princess”, by Conspirapon3.

Edit: So as im rewatching the royal wedding episode(where cadence is introduced) I had realized something. Cadences full name is Princess Mi Amore Cadenza. Mi amor means “my love” in spanish. Lets assume mi amore has something to do with love. Anyways her name and what it means isnt what in trying to get at. Her name is quite long, so its best to assume that Cadence is from a long line of royals maybe. Now another thing, I’d like to reference your video and how Cadences spell to help the couple out is the same as the potion in a way. Introducing some other comments, what if Cadence could be a possible descendent of the princess in the story? It could also make sense on why flurry heart was born an alicorn. It could be because not just one person in the family was an alicorn. Now another piece id like to introduce is how Chrysalis invaded and why she invaded. To my memory it is because of the love that could supply her and her colony, but what if there was another reason? What if Cadences and shining armors marriage is what the past crystal king and queens could not do. And if Chrysalis is the past queen is it possible she would want to stop this maybe because of jealousy? Im not sure. Id also like to point out on how Celestia was the one who arranged the marriage between Shining armor and Cadence. Celestia may have made a mistake in the past with Chrysalis and the other person and that is why she arranged it with shining armor and cadence because the marriage between chrysalis and other person had severe consequences. It sounded better in my head i promise


I was lying awake last night and I was thinking about Princess Cadence's role in the Crystal Empire and how she was already with the Crystal Heart cutie mark without even knowing about the Crystal Empire. Also where she came from and how this can relate to her connection to the crystal heart. Let's start with the older royalty of the Crystal Empire before Sombra. The Princess at the time was Amore, which is mentioned in Sombra's Origins and the Guardians of Harmony comic. Along with this information, she could be more relevant than we know because she was in the game (mlp magic princess) as an event. So let's think about the name of Cadence. Her name is Princess Mi Amore Cadenza. And in Spanish "Amore" means love and the previous princess of the Crystal Empire meant "love" while cadence's name means "my love". It's almost too closely connected to be ignored. My theory is that Cadence could be the secret daughter of Amore. To prove this by the fact Cadence was found in a pony village. The keyword here is found. And she also received her cutie mark when she was becoming an alicorn. I think it was her birthright from Amore since if she is her mom she was already powerful and the only unicorn crystal pony. My full theory is that Radiant Hope took cadence away to another village when Sombra became dark because radiant hope was close to Sombra and she knew how bad this would be for the empire when she realized there was no coming back. She is said to see herself as a princess in the crystal heart but what if it wasn't her she saw and instead she saw cadence. After all amore did say that she believes you decide your fate. And Radiant was close to the two sisters before she got cursed by sombra so I'm thinking she was told about cadence as a baby by the two sisters. The sisters were probably at the knowledge of another princess of another kingdom since they ruled all of Equestria. And this would explain why they know limited on it since all they really knew about it was what hope either told them or anything amore told them since they had no business worrying about the empire if there was already a princess there. Saved cadence the baby of Amore, and brought her to a village so no one can hurt the future savior of the crystal empire. I think that this explains her connection with the crystal empire early on and since alicorns live for a long time, I think it wouldn't be a stretch to say that cadence was a baby, possibly a newborn when Sombra killed her mother. And Sombra never knew about cadence which would make sense if she was a newborn. I think Radiant hope took cadence away in the hope she could save the crystal empire from Sombra in the future once she realized the possibility of cadence being the princess in the vision instead of her. This could connect to flurry heart too since cadence could be part crystal pony and cadence dad is unknown which would be genetics since the original amore was a unicorn and all crystal ponies are only earth ponies. So if amore was born with a horn, it could be why a flurry heart was born with wings and a horn. It was adapting to new princess standards. But Cadence's fate with the ruling empire was decided by birth. I thought about this at 2 am last night and began frantically jotting notes and my knowledge. Celestia probs adopted cadence as her niece knowing she was the successor of amore so she taught her how to rule as a princess. I think Celestia was pulling the old wink out when she adopted cadence knowing well what and where she was really from. She only met Cadence out of hiding when she went into the realm and became an alicorn. ONE more final thing would be the color scheme of amore and cadence. You might find more evidence to support this theory or differ. But this is what I think and who Cadence's father might be.

My sources are The crystal heart spell, Sombras origin, guardians of harmony, and Amore's relevance in the game by Hasbro. Meaning I think Hasbro intentionally made this connection and continued to keep it relevant.

so I'm reading this a month later and praying that I made this clear enough but it was like midnight and I was like woah when researching because I always had the theory. my ig is lilchuckofhope

yall are gonna also have to do a bit of digging to see my sources since idk how to attach my own files


Let’s stop and think about the fact that this lovely human gave us a potential backstory for this character when even the creator of the darn show didnt


Cadence may have never been given an official backstory, but on some level i think the mlp writers did that on purpose you know because they knew it would give us something to speculate about, and your speculations and theories Sawtooth are by far the best i've heard, but at least we know particular minor things about Cadences past namely that she was a Pegasus before becoming an Alicorn and all that, but a little information is better than no information.XD

Or maybe they couldn't think of anything. 😂

@Kevin Morris I think I heard somewhere they died from Timberwolves

@pigifi oh! sorry, i thought you were complaining his comment was too long. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

@LightningStripe25 I was actually replying to Sawtooth's comment, not to you. Sorry for the confusion. If I was, there would be a @(insert name here) at the start like in this one.

@LightningStripe25 I think that's because they probably don't really care what the comment is about.

@pigifi what i'm saying is that people are talking more about the size of his comment and less about what's actually in it.

for those who are defending the writers leaving it alone because it leaves them "mysterious" for fans, you do realise you are being effectively suckered into JJ Abrams' "the mystery box", right?

This about it, any character says that it is mysterious was never built up ever over the course of the series. You can only push the "mystery" before it becomes clear that it is all just a smokescreen to cover up the reality that the writers don't want/know how to actually write her.

Because no matter how good the fan speculation is, it is just that, speculation. It is never going to be applied until the official writers make it so. Why do you think The Force Awakens left so many questions? Because they know that the writers can just outsource all the actual work to their fans while focusing on the next action set piece.

Whether his comment is long or not, i agree with him. Mysteries like these are what shape channels like Sawtooth's. Plus, its fun to come up with our own ideas of what happened.

@dont worry i make new channel Oh come on, his comment maybe long but it isn't that long if you want to see a long comment you should've seen the one he posted on Sawtooth's video about the portal to the EQG world, also CD's not really everywhere in fact that's nonsense at it's best.

Yes its definetly the long comment and he is everywhere in the Brony Tube

@Sothisishowitendshuh? oh im not blaming them im just saying thas a long comment

@im GATO rare cat Don't blame him blame the words, after all it's not his fault what he wrote in the comment required so many words. lol


“What’s cadence’s backstory”

Heart spell song: ima ruin this channeling’s hole career

@Screw_A_Username no I think she meant changelling


following a comment I made earlier today I'm now very interested in the prince's cutie mark. Certainly was he a specialist of potions, and such an important status might be related to him being a prince.<br>Though I now wonder how the pillars weren't royalty, now.

following a comment I made earlier today I'm now very interested in the prince's cutie mark. Certainly was he a specialist of potions, and such an important status might be related to him being a prince.
Though I now wonder how the pillars weren't royalty, now.


So I just noticed something. Twilight has her mane flowy in the future (like how Celestia and Luna’s looked) she was around her friends a lot when she wasn’t as powerful. Celestia and Luna had manes like that and they were crazy OP and around the sun and moon all the time. Candace’s mane flowed when touching horns with Shining Armor, her significant other. I think the flowing mane represents strong alicorn magic and interaction with their title.


Except we see Cadence at a very young age. Even taking into account her slower aging, she was clearly immature (that is why she didn't use it again, growing up to know her spell didn't fix the core issue). She was an orphan. She could well be a child from some fallen kingdom.

Even the picture in the book shows a far older pony than Cadence as a foal sitter.


You get some of her back story in the MLP comics, I found them at the public library, and they align perfectly with the show.


We know that Cadence was a pegus, and she somehow earned a horn. I agree that those ponies in the story were Cadence's parents.


There is a book I believe on her back story, read it in my childhood. It was about cadence and her sister but I think it mentions her origins as well


I personally think it makes more sense that the alicorn in the story would have been Cadence's predecessor, the previous princess of the Crystal Empire, rather than Cadence herself. Then it would be like Cadence's power is another bridge of healing for the whole empire, a mature and healing version of what brought them down so long ago.


I would prefer the idea that she's the daughter of, instead of the alicorn in the story. Growing up that's all she knew, she thought forced love was normal, that's why at the start in twilight's flashbacks she uses it, but no longer does now that she is older, has healed and knows better.

When the empire fell in her fillyhood, Celestia took her in and adopted her and yadayada...

@Anya that’s- not how that works- potions exist and so it’s very possible for Pegasuses to become alicorns

@Jamie L Unicorns are the only ones who can be alicorns because they need to make new type of magic and pegasus can’t do that since they do not have horn. for example in twilights cass she became an alicorn because she created a new type of magic which is friendship

@Jamie L The MLP Comics and The MLP books aren’t 100% canon and Sawtooth Waves doesn’t see them as canon either. Maybe Celestia and Luna didn’t want The Main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn

@Miniş Dünyası actually it doesn’t really explain how Cadence is an Alicorn. I believe its been confirmed that she was originally a Pegasus. Also, Celestia says “the birth of an Alicorn is something Equestria has never seen”

If Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)

I agree
This is my theory

This is how I think it would have gone, I stated my reasons in a previous comment which I accidently deleted. But I'll throw in the important stuff here. I think that Cadence was the daughter of the alicorn in the Hearts and Hooves day story (I think Isolde suits her)
Reason 1. Age. Although like you said the story was vague with the timeline. I'd have to guess that the story but be at least  500 to 1000 years old and although we don't know his age- wait (frantic google searching) As far as I know we don't know his age but I doubt that he is centuries old. Though even if Cadance was Isolde's daughter she would still be 100s of years old but maybe alicorns age slower..? I guess but it's still not solid ground to stand on that would suggest either theories but I still wanted to bring it up.
Reason 2. Storytime. If Cadance was Isolde why and how would she have the same love magic as the prince? Sure you could ague that she learned it or was always fascinated by that branch of magic but I think that's too simple and vague. Soiler. Voldemort from Harry Potter was born out of a love potion a one sided love without 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 love so he was born incapable of loving and turned out to be a heartless killer because of it. Spoiler. Rapunzel from Disney was born after her mother ate a magic flower which gave her magic powers. I think you see where I'm going with this. After Isolde drank the love potion and fell into a false love or as J.K. says, an obsession, she had Cadence who wasn't able to love anyone or if you want to make it more tragic can only love her parents who are to busy being obsessed with each other to care for her. But she can controll other people's love which she does irresponsibly when she's young to try and have some control in her life.
Reason 3. I don't have a reason 3 that I can remember. It's late my brain hurts I've been here for hours send help.
 This took me almost three hours to think of and type out then half of it got deleted so I hope you enjoy.

Isolde was the most beautiful pony in all of Equestria and many a stallion wanted her hoof in marriage. She was a princess and alicorn. She turned them all down. She swore not to fall in love as her mother, Etain, had fallen in an out of love with many different suiters going through much heartbreak. Isolde promised herself that no stallion would ever get the better of her. One day Etain and Isolde went out to the kingdom of Cozbi to secure diplomatic relations. Normally Etain went by herself but aparrently there was a prince Isolde's age and them going could benefit both kingdoms. Isolde agreed- reluctantly as she knew arguing with her mother wouldn't end well. When they arrived they were led into a fancy hall with dim lighting and a single candle lit table with two chairs sat in the centre. 'I don't know what I was expecting' Isolde thought as Etain left. The prince sat at the first of the chairs and smiled at her. It wasn't a creepy smile, Isolde found it charming. She smiled back and started to pull the chair out but the prince got there first. 'Thank you' she said. 'What's your name?' 'Amir.' They chatted, ate, danced and laughed for hours and when Amir said that that night had been a blast and he really enjoyed Isolde's company and if she would be his. When Isolde rejected him saying that she only saw him as a friend. He sighed and said 'I understand but would you atleast have a drink with me? To a good friendship!' He took out a bottle intricately decorated with swirls and hearts and lines that looked like words but must've been in another language as Isolde couldn't read them. He poured them a goblet each and before they drank Isolde repeated 'To a good friendship.' Some time past. Isolde didn't know how much time but she did know that it was time spent with Amir and that's all she needed to know. Before long they got married and had a daughter called Cadence. Cadence was special, she was born without love and therefor she couldn't love. The weird thing about her though is that she could still manipulate the love of others. Though try as she might she could not make her parents love her as she wanted and deserved and the sad thing was they were the only ponies that she seemed to love. Isolde didn't spend much time with Cadence nor pay her much attention. As far as she was concerned the only thing that mattered was Amir and how lucky she was that they met. Soon Celestia heard rumors of a kingdom that falling into ruin as result of neglect from it's rulers. But when she arrived she realised that it was much more serious than negligence. She came into the throne room to see a 7 year-old Cadence trying to catch the attention of her parents as they stared into eachothers eyes, not knowing nor caring that their kingdom was falling into ruin and chaos by their hooves. Celestia recognised the dark magic immediately and tried to pull them apart and save them from the spell but they had been under the curse of forced love for to long and it had become unbreakable. With a heavy heart Celestia turned her back on the false couple and took little Cadence under her wing and back to Canterlot where with many trials and tribulations she managed to cure Cadance from her curse too.

As for the townsponies of Cozbi, Celestia sent them to the up and coming town of Mainhattan.
I also think it would be cool for Flurry Heart to go back to see her grandparents and break the curse. I can imagine Cadence forbidding her from going but that not stopping anyway and then after they have a mother-daughter moment that super sweet and nice and stuff.

I agree
This is my theory

This is how I think it would have gone, I stated my reasons in a previous comment which I accidently deleted. But I'll throw in the important stuff here. I think that Cadence was the daughter of the alicorn in the Hearts and Hooves day story (I think Isolde suits her)
Reason 1. Age. Although like you said the story was vague with the timeline. I'd have to guess that the story but be at least  500 to 1000 years old and although we don't know his age- wait (frantic google searching) As far as I know we don't know his age but I doubt that he is centuries old. Though even if Cadance was Isolde's daughter she would still be 100s of years old but maybe alicorns age slower..? I guess but it's still not solid ground to stand on that would suggest either theories but I still wanted to bring it up.
Reason 2. Storytime. If Cadance was Isolde why and how would she have the same love magic as the prince? Sure you could ague that she learned it or was always fascinated by that branch of magic but I think that's too simple and vague. *Soiler.* Voldemort from Harry Potter was born out of a love potion a one sided love without 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 love so he was born incapable of loving and turned out to be a heartless killer because of it. *Spoiler.* Rapunzel from Disney was born after her mother ate a magic flower which gave her magic powers. I think you see where I'm going with this. After Isolde drank the love potion and fell into a false love or as J.K. says, an obsession, she had Cadence who wasn't able to love anyone or if you want to make it more tragic can only love her parents who are to busy being obsessed with each other to care for her. But she can controll other people's love which she does irresponsibly when she's young to try and have some control in her life.
Reason 3. I don't have a reason 3 that I can remember. It's late my brain hurts I've been here for hours send help.
 This took me almost three hours to think of and type out then half of it got deleted so I hope you enjoy.

Isolde was the most beautiful pony in all of Equestria and many a stallion wanted her hoof in marriage. She was a princess and alicorn. She turned them all down. She swore not to fall in love as her mother, Etain, had fallen in an out of love with many different suiters going through much heartbreak. Isolde promised herself that no stallion would ever get the better of her. One day Etain and Isolde went out to the kingdom of Cozbi to secure diplomatic relations. Normally Etain went by herself but aparrently there was a prince Isolde's age and them going could benefit both kingdoms. Isolde agreed- reluctantly as she knew arguing with her mother wouldn't end well. When they arrived they were led into a fancy hall with dim lighting and a single candle lit table with two chairs sat in the centre. 'I don't know what I was expecting' Isolde thought as Etain left. The prince sat at the first of the chairs and smiled at her. It wasn't a creepy smile, Isolde found it charming. She smiled back and started to pull the chair out but the prince got there first. 'Thank you' she said. 'What's your name?' 'Amir.' They chatted, ate, danced and laughed for hours and when Amir said that that night had been a blast and he really enjoyed Isolde's company and if she would be his. When Isolde rejected him saying that she only saw him as a friend. He sighed and said 'I understand but would you atleast have a drink with me? To a good friendship!' He took out a bottle intricately decorated with swirls and hearts and lines that looked like words but must've been in another language as Isolde couldn't read them. He poured them a goblet each and before they drank Isolde repeated 'To a good friendship.' Some time past. Isolde didn't know how much time but she did know that it was time spent with Amir and that's all she needed to know. Before long they got married and had a daughter called Cadence. Cadence was special, she was born without love and therefor she couldn't love. The weird thing about her though is that she could still manipulate the love of others. Though try as she might she could not make her parents love her as she wanted and deserved and the sad thing was they were the only ponies that she seemed to love. Isolde didn't spend much time with Cadence nor pay her much attention. As far as she was concerned the only thing that mattered was Amir and how lucky she was that they met. Soon Celestia heard rumors of a kingdom that falling into ruin as result of neglect from it's rulers. But when she arrived she realised that it was much more serious than negligence. She came into the throne room to see a 7 year-old Cadence trying to catch the attention of her parents as they stared into eachothers eyes, not knowing nor caring that their kingdom was falling into ruin and chaos by their hooves. Celestia recognised the dark magic immediately and tried to pull them apart and save them from the spell but they had been under the curse of forced love for to long and it had become unbreakable. With a heavy heart Celestia turned her back on the false couple and took little Cadence under her wing and back to Canterlot where with many trials and tribulations she managed to cure Cadance from her curse too.

As for the townsponies of Cozbi, Celestia sent them to the up and coming town of Mainhattan.
I also think it would be cool for Flurry Heart to go back to see her grandparents and break the curse. I can imagine Cadence forbidding her from going but that not stopping anyway and then after they have a mother-daughter moment that super sweet and nice and stuff.


Love how you remade the Bab Seed Song to look like Celestia, Luna, and Cadence!


I think the potion she was given, stayed somewhat in her, so now she has love powers. If she wasn’t that pony, maybe she was trying to get revenge on her sister who was casted by the spell., or maybe it was her mom that was spelled, and when her mom gave birth, the potion/curse, transferred to the new baby (cadence) and she didn’t want her mother’s tragedy to happen to her. It might have been that she didn’t want the new kingdom to fall, like her mother’s did. I don’t know though, what do you think? 🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄🦄😧


Hi Sawtooth Waves, I have something you might wanna know: If you remember your video about Susnet's defeat about the episode where Starlight creates corrupted timelines, there was somethibg I wondered about the last corrupted universe...where is that other Twilight? If you think for a moment, the Twilight we know and saw goong into these universes is the one from the main story -- but what about Twilights from these universe Starlight created? What hapoened to her after she failed her test? Did she just disappeared? Orrrr....did that other Twilight turned evil and destroyed Equestria...? And maybe she would be responsible for that last timeline Twilight showed to Starlight? Let me know what you think about it by replying to me.


a love potion can also be resuluted as a foal and that foal is 100% Cadence. I mean her father created the love potion and she knows the love spell might be a genetic ability from father to daughter.


So, often in times of a love potion altering a life, if they have a child, it will often have powers resulting from the potion.
They also can have a few side affects, like having a lack of love, be overly loving, or be a blank, where it has no resulting power affects.
In Cadences case, i belive she gained the power of love from it.
She is very trusting and loving.
Everyone around her loves her without a second thought.
And flurry heart also inherited this ability.


What slightly concerns me about Cadence is the tips of her wings. If I do recall correctly, than Chrysalis' disguise did not have the deeper, violet tipped wings. Cadence also did not have them when young, and the deeper violet is first seen after Twilight rescues her from Chrysalis's clutches. And she is also not seen flying a lot after that, and during 'Three's a Crowd', she just gives the vague excuse that she's 'gotten out of practice with flying'...or whatever the exact quote was. So it looks like Chrysalis damaged her wings. <br>But yeah, I do think the possibility that Cadence was the original 'love poison Alicorn' has merit, and I don't see how anyone could call her a Mary Sue. The list of feats would include using the magic of friendship/love to beat the villain, which no one can possibly complain about if they watch this show, and use her shield to keep Sombra out of the empire during S3. And, really, she and Shining Armor were swapping off with each other until Sombra attacked Shining Armor, and Cadence collapsed shortly after. Aside from that, I can't really think of any examples where she actually did anything.

What slightly concerns me about Cadence is the tips of her wings. If I do recall correctly, than Chrysalis' disguise did not have the deeper, violet tipped wings. Cadence also did not have them when young, and the deeper violet is first seen after Twilight rescues her from Chrysalis's clutches. And she is also not seen flying a lot after that, and during 'Three's a Crowd', she just gives the vague excuse that she's 'gotten out of practice with flying'...or whatever the exact quote was. So it looks like Chrysalis damaged her wings.
But yeah, I do think the possibility that Cadence was the original 'love poison Alicorn' has merit, and I don't see how anyone could call her a Mary Sue. The list of feats would include using the magic of friendship/love to beat the villain, which no one can possibly complain about if they watch this show, and use her shield to keep Sombra out of the empire during S3. And, really, she and Shining Armor were swapping off with each other until Sombra attacked Shining Armor, and Cadence collapsed shortly after. Aside from that, I can't really think of any examples where she actually did anything.


I think the two ponies are Cadence’s parents. The love spell going from being what connects them into something that effects their daughter herself being born because of the potion’s spell. The parents spending too much time focusing on each other to see what their daughter is going and is neglecting her. Celestia visits a neighboring kingdom to find it falling apart and goes to confront the rulers about it only to see them being lovey dovie and inseparable while their daughter tries to figure stuff out. Celestia takes Cadence with her back to Equestria to take care of her while she tries to figure out how to help her parents. She ends up raising Cadence, and the younger becomes a babysitter to meet people and get more social, where she meets Twilight


Cadence could've of been the daughter of the Princess Alicorn who took the Love Poison  before abandoning her after she was born as she was adopted by two Earth ponies which makes me believe that the 'Love Poison' could be linked to Cadences love powers allowing her to manipulate love towards different ponies to fall in love or distract the couple from the current scenario which was already mentioned in the video. Maybe a little bit of the love Poison is in Cadence explaining her love related powers..

Luna and Cadence are so underrated istg their past is so much more interesting yet it's Celestial this , Twilight that. I don't hate Twilight and Celestial but they are overrated


I like this theory but imagine if instead she was their daughter. Based on the Sombra taking over the Crystal empire theory, maybe the couple were so in love Sombra easily took over. The couple didn't call for help and maybe the potion gave Cadence her magic.

MY NAME SANS MY GRILFRINDS
PRINCESS CELESTRA
PRINCESS LUNA
PRINCESS CADNIS
PRINCESS TWIN
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@Miniş Dünyası but when cadence was Twilight’s babysitter She was a Pegasus. And in the books she became a alicorn because she defeated a evil witch.

Yes. But maybe it’s not the crystal empire but a forgotten kingdom.

@lizzie Curtis They might have wanted to keep it a secret because it might have been hard to explain and with the shock of Flurry Heart to The The Main 6 it might have not been the time and the place for Cadence’s Backstory. But I still would have loved to have a canon Cadence Backstory

@Miniş Dünyası but y b that secretive? I wish they would do a kind of sequel on the backstories of celestia, luna, and cadence

@lizzie Curtis  Maybe Celestia & Luna said that because they didn’t want the main 6 to know that Cadence was born as an Alicorn

I think that too , and when the kingdom fell something happened to cadance

@Miniş Dünyası that doesnt really go with what celestia said when she realized that flurry heart was born an alicorn... she said that no alicorn was ever born

@Ryan Pheasey Exactly Celestia Luna  and   Starswirl fought him and then he got banished

I think this is a great theory! They’d be so in love from the spell and distracted from each other like we see with Big Mac and Cherilee that they wouldn’t even call for help when Sombra took the empire

@Tophs Right Foot he did. He took over the Crystal empire before Celestia and Luna put a stop to his rein

If Cadence’s Mother is an Alicorn, That would explain how Cadence became an Alicorn. Cadence’s might have been born as an Alicorn if she had an Alicorn Mother like Flurry Heart. And Cadence’s Father might’ve been King Sombra! Sombra might’ve wanted to rule and when he was ruling beside Cadence’s Mother King Sombra might’ve gotten rid of Cadence’s Mother (Maybe banished her, imprisoned her possibly even killed her, since that’s the most permanent solution)

@oOf Books, unless specifically stated, are not canon

They arent because the old Crystal Empire ruler was Empress Cadenza, she is shown in one of the books.

so I dont know if sombra took over the crystal empire

(Btw I just mixed sawtooths theory and conspirapon3s theory.)My theory is that After Celestia and Luna realized they could raise the moon and sun,they absorbed the magic of all 3 tribes and became alicorns.Then Sombra  got jealous  of Celestia and Luna's power.Then chrysalis asks Celestia And Luna for help.Sombra then figures out how to take the magic from all 3 tribes and gets wings.After that luna and celestia fights sombra.Thats when starswirl comes in .He put all sombras Alicorn magic in The Alicorn Amulet. Then Sombra is banished,Chrysalis is angry and takes revenge. : )


This video moved me emotionally i teared up lol

I love this show so much


Cadence is my favourite princess other than Twilight!! She’s so cute!! And her mane’s colours are my favourites: pink, purple and pastel yellow


Cadence is as old as shining, and she was in her teens when she started baby sitting Twilight and shining is 4 maybe 5 years older than Twilight <br>But i think that's how she got her horn , by remaking love magic , it could already have been there because of the holiday she just made it a spell , like Twilight made a spell to get her wings

Cadence is as old as shining, and she was in her teens when she started baby sitting Twilight and shining is 4 maybe 5 years older than Twilight
But i think that's how she got her horn , by remaking love magic , it could already have been there because of the holiday she just made it a spell , like Twilight made a spell to get her wings


Because the Crystal Heart spell book was licensed by Hasbro I'm pretty sure that Cadence's backstory in the book is officially canon.

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While I do like this theory there isn't any evidence that cadence had a kingdom before the crystal empire and we know how that fell also the love potion had an effect on their eyes. We also know that the love potion can work on people who were never in a relationship while I think cadence's works only on people in a relationship. Also we don't know if the princess in the story ever reciprocated the love towards the prince but that is up for debate

Yeah! Hey by the way, does cadence have confirmed parents? Because I do think it could be more likely that cadence is the daughter of the two and the effects of the love potion passed onto her

@Electric Heart Indeed. She appeared to be early to mid teens so even accounting for differences in alicorn aging rates it seems unlikely that Cadence would have had such a relationship prior.<br>And not to be overly pedantic, but given that she was called a "babysitter" and not "nanny" or similar would also indicate (though not absolutely) sub-adult temporary caregiver.

@Electric Heart Indeed. She appeared to be early to mid teens so even accounting for differences in alicorn aging rates it seems unlikely that Cadence would have had such a relationship prior.
And not to be overly pedantic, but given that she was called a "babysitter" and not "nanny" or similar would also indicate (though not absolutely) sub-adult temporary caregiver.

@Travis Smith especially considering she was, at least in appearance, younger when Twi was a filly.

She was unquestionably and seemingly intrinsically known as the Crystal Princess to those of the Crystal Kingdom not "the new Princess". As such, she likely has a strong resemblance to the pre-Sombre Princess of said kingdom and possibly a legitimate claim as heiress.<br>Personally, however, I am inclined to believe descendant rather than the original.

She was unquestionably and seemingly intrinsically known as the Crystal Princess to those of the Crystal Kingdom not "the new Princess". As such, she likely has a strong resemblance to the pre-Sombre Princess of said kingdom and possibly a legitimate claim as heiress.
Personally, however, I am inclined to believe descendant rather than the original.

There's no evidence working to the contrary either as Cadance's backstory was never explored.

Do we actually know that those two were in an intimate relationship? Cause if they weren't, then the love spell according to you, it wouldn't have worked.

I don't really think Cadance ever had her own kingdom before the Crystal Empire. When she was foalsitting Twilight in the flashback, she looked too young to even have a prince and ruled over a kingdom before all of that. And also, if you pay attention to her cutie mark which has a Crystal Heart symbol on it, its implied that Cadance's destiny is to indeed, ruling over the Crystal Empire, long before she did that.

We know that she is related to the old Empress of the Crystal Empire, named Cadenza but we really don't know if she had a kingdom, I don't think a princess would be able to be so free at Canterlot.


I think Cadinse had a allicorn mother that drank the love potion and as a result Cadinse was born with similar powers or abilitys to connect ponies with love spells.


If you look at the episode description of Canterlot wedding part 1, it said “Celestia’s NEICE”, which means that either celestia has ANOTHER unknown sister or family member. BUT if she got that love spell put on her, and celestia saved her, then maybe she decided to raise her. But as you can tell cadence got her wings probably quit young, younger than twilight. But as you know, flurry heart is the first ever pony to be born as an alicorn, but maybe that’s not a coincidence, maybe it’s GENES. So if the theory about the prince casting the love spell on cadence os correct, he may have been attracted to her because she was famous for being the FIRST EVER BORN ALICORN?! The prince may have found one of cadences love potions and decided to use it on her, but since celestia may have decided to raise cadence she may have tried to teach her how to create love spells that are controlled. So maybe no one except celestia, cadence and maybe Luna know about this, but cadence may be ashamed of this and so celestia and Luna decide to keep it a secret and pretend that flurry is very special 😶😧. Just a thought 😁


THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE! I love this theory. @Sawtooth Waves is awesome


Or:

If love magic was the only magic she seemed to use at her age of baby sitting twilight, and that’s all we ever saw her do at that age, let’s assume how weak that is. Only that kind of magic, and doing basically what the potion would. If she was a Pegasus before hand, and then got her horn, it’d make sense for her to only know few spells. So maybe over time she learned more.


I have a theory that the princess from the book in "Hearts and Hooves day" may have been the alicorn princess who got corrupted and turned into Chrysalis. That is why Chrysalis doesn't have her origin story Only the origin of the changelings.

@Viola Moon because the only princess who canonically has parents is Twilight. Celestia has a Luna as her sister, however we don’t even know if those two have parents. Cadence? We know absolutely nothing about her family besides her daughter Flurry Heart with Shining Armor.

@Thang Fah Savung no discord is just <br>in the part where changelings take over you see them combining changeling comunicators to talk like discord in the short

@Thang Fah Savung no discord is just
in the part where changelings take over you see them combining changeling comunicators to talk like discord in the short

@Egr Mor how cuz she said she want to take over and trapped cadence endangered her family

In this official short it shows that Discord created Chrysalis by fusing insect eggs for shit and giggles.
https://youtu.be/jb7joIm5UdU
His creation came bite him back in the ass in season 7 finale lol. When he had to go to their hive.

i would agree if the changelings didn’t stay changelings.. it’s a good theory but think about it. the changelings aren’t just corrupted ponies, they’re corrupted changelings. when they become good, their form changes but they stay the same ability wise. they’re a whole different species from ponies. I think queen chrysalis looks like a changeling alicorn because she’s just the queen of the hive. though i would like to know more backstory about the changelings and specifically queen chrysalis, like, why did she become queen?

@shr00mie :D ok shut up and Don't be rude to me ok? 😡😠🤬

Chrysalis is my favorite character in MLP

@Egr Mor 1: you don’t need to overreact and 2: no, chrysalis did that because of the love. If a diffrent or another princess had more love to share. (Or easier to target) then she would most likely go for them instead

And her name "chryalis what if it used to be crystalis but she changed it

Or cinch's pony form, like this is how it started.
Cinch was a nice pony, after they stopped doing their duties, all the ponies in equestria became desperate, and she started becaming angry towards the prince, the prince died from broken heart, as she gets depressed of what happened, 1 weeks later, she became mad about what happened, an unknown creature sends curse onto her. Turning her into chrysalis.
So here's how.
The princess - Cinch - Chrysalis
Also that explains why cinch is greenish.

Wow that's a great reason it kinda makes sense aswell. Maybe she's also the Secret Mother of Cadence because Cadence also never talks bout her other family, actually to only princess who talks about there family is Twilight.

I read a headcanon on that. It was by a youtuber named Ink Rose and fit pretty well

AND BECAUSE THAT IS HER DAUGHTER SO MORE REASON OF PROTECTION SO MAYBE CADENCE MADE SHINING ARMOR FALL IN LOVE LIKE CHRYSALIS DID TO THE PRINCE THEREFORE TRYING TO TAKE SHINING ARMOR AWAY FROM HER SO THERE WOULD BE NO HEARTBREAKS TO CADENCE LIKE THEIR WAS TO CHRYSALIS OMG THIS IS ALL COMING TOGETHER PERFECTLY 😨😱

OMG WAIT ,WAIT ,WAIT WHAT IF THE REASON WHY CHRYSALIS WAS TARGETING CADENCE WAS BECAUSE SHE WAS TRYING TO PROTECT HER FROM LOVE OR WARNING HER FROM SOMETHING 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

Chrysalis Is A Full Changeling Tho- Just How The Hive Will Feed A Bee Special Honey To Make It A Queen Bee, It’s The Same With Changelings. Chrysalis May LOOK Like An Alicorn, But Keep In Mind That The Whole Hive Looks Like Ponies. She Doesn’t Really HAVE An Origin Story, The Hive Was Always Stealing Love Til They Were Reformed.

That does make sense considering why she knows how to steal love from others


This is a good theory and all, but in the book it's explained that Cadence saved her home village from a witch, and earned her horn before going to live with Celestia, leaving no time for that to happen


I am Flora Fille, the princess of Nature and all types of forms of Nature. I believe that Princess Cadence's origin was this:
ONCE UPON A TIME, 1000 YEARS AGO, there was a Crystal Empire, a kingdom that was made of crystal and love was used as a shield to protect it from the cold winds of the frozen north. It was ruled by princess Carol and Prince Adam, the prince and princess of the Crystal Empire. As time went by, a new princess was born. A young Pegasus. They named her Cadence. After a few years, she grew into a filly and all went well in the kingdom. But, soon, King Sombra, an evil unicorn who lost his wings, came to invade the Crystal Empire. Princess Carol and Prince Adams were worried about Cadence.

''If our Empire falls, Cadence might be able to protect it when she's much older,'' said Princess Carol to Prince Adams.

''Yes, but how?'' asked the prince.

''I have been watching her for a while now and realized she has the power of love,'' said Princess Carol. ''She will  without fail be able to.''

''Ok''. Prince Adams agreed.

Princess Carol used her magic to teleport Cadence to the Castle of the 2 sisters where the rulers of all equestria lived.  Princess Celestia and Luna took care of her and raised her. One day, due to preventing two unicorns, pegasus and earth ponies from fighting using her love magic, Cadence turned into the princess we know today and got her cutie mark as well.


OMG ITS BEEN 3 YEARS SINCE I WATCHED THIS GUY AND HES STILL ON YOUTUBE

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I feel like Cadance is the daughter of the two. That's why she's able to cast love magic.


This is similar to other people's theories in the comments:

So Cadance is the daughter of these two ponies, because of the potion she is very connected to love magic. Since the couple were so madly in love they forgot about their kingdom (which I think is the crystal empire) , sombra easily took it. Celestia and Luna defeated him but maybe could't save the couple, so thats why they took Cadance in. Somehow she turned into an alicorn. This is most likely really close to the actual backstory, cuz when the crystal empire came back celestia straight away gave it to cadance and shining armor to rule and plus her cutie mark is the crystal heart. Also cuz the fact that the crystal ponies said that cadance was the "crystal princess", they must have recognised her.


I have a theory so bear with me here:
Cadence is in the alicorn princess from the story but instead her daughter, she was a product of artificial love and growing up she always thought that loves bells and love potions were hell ponies and creatures fell in love. I feel like she might’ve used a potion similar on someone that she had a puppy crush on when she was young.

Soon enough celestial was alerted about the lovestruck Alicorn princess and pulled the family a part In order to one, break the love potion and two, try and help cadence. After that I feel like Celestia would try and teach her about love and what it truly is compared to what her parents had. Idk if this would work or not, I’m open to opinions soooooo yeah there’s my theory


3:34-3:38 There were many times where Cadance's kingdom nearly fell. And everytime those times happen is because of King Sombra.
Maybey because she was too distracted by that "love potion" at the past, that's why her kingdom fell, like the story said but it might be because of King Sombra but it did not say in the story. Like Sawtooth said, maybey Celestia came and seperated Cadance apart from her "lover". Maybey she was too scared that will happen again so she took all her might and like what Shinning said "She hadn't slept, barely eats". This is in my opinion


You should do a theory on how Starlight got her cutie mark like how did she even get the cutie marrkkkkkk


Well if your theory is correct, then that means for the period of time when Cadence used the love spell, she was mentally and emotionally torturing others for her own benefit. If she was so traumatized by that experience, then it must mean that the spell causes some sort of physiological damage, as a victim of that trauma she'd know exactly how horrible it is. This is kiiiiinda something I feel like Celestia and Luna wouldn't exactly be happy about.... because she's sacrificing her subject's happiness for her own, the very subjects she's meant to lead and protect. If you think about it that way, then the theory sort of falls apart, but it's an interesting idea.


Maybe that princess was Cadence’s mom it doesn’t look exactly like her and her power was hereditary but maybe since her mother wasn’t around it adds a scar to her past.

@Quinn Russ there was actually an ancient race of alicorns and cadence’s mother could have been one of them

Could be but there's no proof to support that theory as I don't think there were alicorns before her birth other than Celestia and Luna which both are clearly not her mother.


Usually the problem between the stallion and the  mare was a love they were already pair by true love but in the portion it was different big Mack and cheerliy didn't was love pair the spell that candence used is to connect the broken love not to make fake love


Can we talk about how Cadence is Celestias niece (I believe it was confirmed, been years since I heard that) and that Prince Blueblood is also her nephew. What other sibling does Celestia have for her to be an aunt 🧐 or these r probably random ponies she picked up


I was just rewatching the mlp series and I noticed that in season 2 episode 12, 'Family Appreciation Day' Miss Cheerilee's cutiemark keeps changing from her usual flowers to three umbrellas?! My Brain can't take it-


I doubt that she is the princess from the story simply from the fact that, when we see her when Twilight is a filly, we can see that she is much shorter than she is in the present day, heavily implying that she was still a child. She was likely too young to be the princess in the story, especially because the illustration shows a fully grown mare.


I hate how princess Luna and cadence are so underrated. They have an ,ummm... different past.<br>Edit: I’m talking about the show. I want to know more about the two. I watched sawtooth’s vid. There are loved in the fandom for the same reason :)

I hate how princess Luna and cadence are so underrated. They have an ,ummm... different past.
Edit: I’m talking about the show. I want to know more about the two. I watched sawtooth’s vid. There are loved in the fandom for the same reason :)

I actually quite like Cadence, her colors are pretty!

No No princess Suhana is good Princess Luna is good

everyone's underrated<br>the princesses are underrated in their own way

everyone's underrated
the princesses are underrated in their own way

Luna is the most overhyped pony, what are you even talking about...

Um- have we been in the same fandom?? I’ve always seen Celestia as the underrated one-

I think you should go back to Sawtooth’s older videos discussing which Princess the fandom likes the most. It has a pretty interesting, and funny result!

Cadance is so beautiful. She needs more attencion.

@Little Cookie trust me, most people like luna the best out of all of the princesses.

I think Celestia is a little more popular than Luna, so Cadence is the definition of underrated

No i feel like she is she doesn’t have many important parts rather then when ceslestia and her switched cutie marks, when the 3 princesses were singing to twighlight and a few times she was talking to her sister


I have an idea for your next video: Cadence the bringer of destruction/fall of the crystal empire
        How old is cadence? Think about it, she has the crystal heart as her cutiemark yet the crystal empire was gone up until season 3, so she had to have been around before the crystal empire vanished. We also know that cadence was not banished along with the crystal ponies because she babysat twilight. She was an alicorn as far back as we can see and we know they age differently; so we she could be way older than we thought. Is it possible that cadence is a crystal pony & that when king Sombra turned bad  Cadence is the one that asked the princesses to save the crystal empire? The other theory on the changelings cohabitating in the crystal empire also makes sense because when queen chrysalis was posing as cadence for the royal wedding Cadence seemed to be the one that already knew the most about them. (also Celestia, because she knew queen chrysalis' name before she had to be introduced.)
      I would make a lot of sense if the princess of "love" earned her alicorn status (by creating a new type of magic "love is magic") in a society where  love is an integral part of existing: the light and love charges the crystal heart, and the love that the changelings use. But wait! is it possible that the princess worthy deed that cadence did to become an alicorn was put the crystal heart system in place? Think about it. If the empire previously used a different system of keeping the winter at bay and it failed, then an extraordinary young unicorn who had just realized that love is a magic strong enough to keep the winter at bay. She carved a large crystal into the symbol of love and instructed the panicking ponies that this would work and to be strong for the ponies that they cared about. They could already see how the power their love fed the changelings. Cadence performs a love spell on the crystal heart turning it into a vessel for the strength of love that that the ponies had for each other and the cold wind of the north are blasted back. Cadence floats into the sky be magic not her own and vanished into another realm where she meets celestia for the first time. She gets her wings and reappears in front of the crystal ponies as an alicorn (and perhaps earning her cutiemark at the same time). The ponies celebrate and declare this young pony Cadence is worthy of becoming their leader someday. This puts king sombra's position at risk. But, he has bigger things to worry about: the crystal heart system seems to be working well but Sombra sees a problem. The changelings apatite for love is now a problem because the empire now runs off of love. If the changlings grow in numbers or if their apatite increases it will put the empire at risk. There is only one thing to do banish the changelings. (If my theory is correct: the mere presence of Cadence is the reason the crystal empire fell and why the changelings turned bad. Although chrysalis didn't seem to be hold any particular grudge against sombra when grogar brought them all together, maybe because cadence had a more direct hand in their banishment.)
      After all this it would make sense why no one bothers to mention her past, she didn't even tell twilight. Why would she? Its even worse than (more embarrassing) than starlight's past. Think about it; her becoming an alicorn the symbol of leadership caused sombra's corruption (though it may not have changed the outcome for the changelings). This is an example of Starswirl's alicorn creation system causing negative results. If she had not become an alicorn she would simply have become something of a hero to the people as spike did & even more important not a threat to Sombra's position (especially if he wasn't an alicorn. This could've lead to him seeking different means to appear more powerful to the people to solidify his position, via the alicorn amulet that corrupts anyone who wears it.