Jennifer's Solution

Yeah. I bet he was like wait what? Girl that makes no sense, put your hands behind your back!🤣😂

“feeling for the girl”

@seen well in his mind, she was a "poor girl" which I'm guessing is what the person meant

It's like some weird textbook example that just happens in front of you, you know it's possible but still surprised when it happens. >50% of murders are from someone the victim knew (according to data) so I'm sure they are always aware it's a possibility when doing these interviews.

i love this comment

@The Trend I'm dead asf 💀💀💀

the guy knew before going in it was weird because she was tied up but making phone call

@a h he didn’t know until she said it

@a h Just getting evidence for court

@a h exactly, the cops on the scene knew her being tied up the way she was was sus af you’re right

Well in many ways she is a "poor girl", having parents that strict...it's a tragedy to say the least, no matter which choice she made, she knew she was going to suffer immensely....so I guess she was driven to murder (not that I don't think she shouldn't be punished for having her parents murdered), it's just knowing that anyone can be driven to murder.
I don't think she deserves the death penalty though.

Amber Slahlize what how is her parents strict ? she lied to them while she dropped out dating some frat boy. they offered to bring her back to school for education ( probably for college too consider they got 2 fancy cars ). how can she expect her parents to trust her and let her go out of the house do her own things right after they found out she lied to them for years ? she definitely dont deserves the death penalty rather just let her rot in jails

@Haii I'm guessing you didn't watch the video. One of the people investigating her said her parent's level of strictness was abuse. So, just think about that a moment. He even acknowledged that anyone can be driven to murder, (while he was trying to probe her to confess that she did it).

@Haii according to the back story, her parents put a lot of pressure on her for a long time to be what they deemed successful to the point that that it could have made jen think her parents didn't care about her and more about having something to brag about. in retaliation, she decided to lie.

i'm in no way defending what she did. but that's how i read the situation. i feel extremely bad for the way her parents went out tho :/

@seen more like showing compassion to the victims. they aren't going to be cold and unsympathetic but when they're trying to gain something from them, they try to gain their trust. not all detectives will show pity, but a lot will

@Monaka He was too after he realized how she tried to play them for a joke.🙃

I was thinking the same thing I could never be a detective because the moment I realized I was face to face with the culprit of a murder case playing victim my face would go dead pan my suspicion would be blatant.

Yeah I would go from feeling bad for her to being extremely unsettled and creeped out

I don’t think he ever felt sorry, she was the prime subject from the beginning because who would just tie her up and leave behind a witness.

Ikkkkkkkkk

She could have made it so much easier for herself too.

"I closed the door and hid under my bed, I heard gunshots and when I thought they left I called the cops"

Easy. Now she doesn't need to worry about tying herself up, doesn't need to worry about who did what, doesn't need to worry about how she got her phone. That's all she had to do and yet she just totally failed to think about what might happen later and what questions might be asked.

I guess she couldn't have counted on her dad miraculously surviving though. Without that massive obstacle a good lawyer might have been able to cover over her lies and inconsistencies

She was free to be "disowned" and live with the boyfriend and figure stuff out, killing the parents wasn't beneficial at all bruh

He probably sussed pretty quick that something wasn’t right with the situation if she wasn’t killed or even hurt.

he knew it at the very first. he was just trying to get it out of her. these guys are pros, they can tell who is innocent or not in 5 seconds.

@A C That is ridiculous. You clearly haven't watched all the videoes on this channel. Watch the one called "innocent until proven guilty". Innocent people end up in jail literally all the time, many times because "pros" like this make mistakes all the time.

They knew since the beginning, as the detective said, no killer would leave a witness behind to identify them. That doesn't make sense.

I would have major trust issues.

@Amber Slahlize they are buttering her up. They get to lie to her.

@The Trend

They’re not feeling for her. They’re employees of the state who are paid to find evidence to convict people of crimes. They’re working for the prosecution, not her defence. It’s not without a bias.

It's explanable how Jennifer would get twisted with that upbringing, considering no mature person around her to advice her on, and probably the limited circle of friend, and that parents reap what their sow. Also Jen, she cannot go unpunished, it is the carelesness of the young, unfortunately a rather heavy mistake. Looking at the family atmosphere its not like Jen love her parents that she get sad,its more like she's happy to finally get freed, but another jail is waiting for her. This is a case where everyone get fucked up, hopefully with this case going viral there will be more awareness how to bring up family the better way, especially for asian family.

@seen me too,

The narrator is lying

I'm sure after being a homicide detective for many years they seen everything

Pretty sure the officer already has suspicions before they even talked.

Great opinion Sturmgeschütz Assault Gun!

Yeah and no legal team in the Interrogations. That's off right there.

@The Trend LMAO

Have you never dated a woman before, lol

When someone's willing to kill. But not kill every witness that should raise alarm bells

to be honest, her parents made her do that... they treated her badly obviously otherwise nobody would kill their own parents.

poor girl? OK

I still feel for her tho. Her parents were awful.

@Callum Lambkin tf

While tiger parenting is definitely the trigger, the levels to which she descended is definitely not normal behavior. I have similar parents but while I have worked through my issues, I definitely haven't gone on to swap grades, get with the violent drug dealing crowd nor actively planned out murders. She had no plans of confessing or ever getting caught. She could turn her grief on and off like a switch. While I am no professional, there is something off about all this behavior, perhaps she has undergone some evaluation maybe some sort of diagnosis has been made.

@The Trend lol

blame everything on school ask my why?

and ironic

@alex225able yeah most children under tiger parents go for self harm then suicide.

I guess she had too much pent up unsorted hatred inside her.
Mixed feelings hatred, lack of self worth, scared, sadness, guilt etc etc....
But I believe if she had better parents she would have turned out normal..

@alex225able I had extremely strict parents too. Never thought of killing my parents. I was depressed yeah. Self harmed in unconventional ways. And then moved out at 18. Planning your parents brutal murder.. in front of you!! Is not normal reaction to strict parenting. And honestly my parents and many I know were even stricter than hers.

the girl was emotionally abused all her life and yet you people speak like she is the devil reincarnated

@seen Too bad Holtzclaw wasn't the one feeling her up, she would perk up immediately!

Even the Bible says the measure you give is the measure you get back. It will always be wrong too kill, but if you give your children no mercy and no empathy, you are preparing your children for severe emotional problems and you might end up regretting it.

The parents share some of the blame for expecting their child to be ultra successful.

@Natasha420 no she was not abused her parents wanted the best for her.And the best thing for her was getting her away from criminals

@Most High Gospel obviously I wasn’t there and neither were you but it’s clear she was emotionally abused. You don’t feel like guilt tripping and making a teenager (she was one at the time) feel like it’s their fault they had an accident and can’t figure skate anymore? Also from what I remember they basically laughed at the fact she wanted to be a piano teacher. God love your children because you won’t

Imagine agreeing to kill someone for 1k-2k.

Must be standard protocol, suspecting the closest relatives.

Feel bad because she’s a crying woman?! Come on we are past 2020.

@Amber Slahlize you're trying to validate her in murder because her parents pushed her to succeed in life and pay for her education and may have been a little over strict in effect. please. Sounds like quite a well off family (Mercedes & Lexus) and stable. It was premeditated murder of her parents and you're attempting to find sympathy for her. Wild

@Max x "you're trying to validate her in murder" Let me stop you right there, 1. you are trying to assert a motive, rather than actually reading what I had to say about her.
2. "validate" is an assumption you are asserting over me.

3. Don't assume, it makes you an A** out of U and me.

@Amber Slahlize there is no motive or assumption. it is exactly as I typed. there's nothing to analyze about what I just said. The investigator told her it was "basically abuse" because he was trying to garner her trust and gain influence with her before switching methods, I highly doubt he thought it was abusive lol. what you just said is in fact, attempting to validate.

@Max x "there is no motive or assumption. it is exactly as I typed."

But it's not what I typed. You should read what I typed.

"I highly doubt he thought it was abusive lol"
That's an assumption.

"what you just said is in fact, attempting to validate."
That's another assumption.

Poor guy, he genuinely believed Her at first

one gotta be blind to to be feeling for her, especially an officer

@Phil Savoie well yeah… people dont go around killing everyone y know

Detectives have to eliminate close family as suspects before looking for outsiders. It’s the best way detectives work cases. I’m sure the percentage of cases is high with the family members being guilty of murder. These officers definitely were suspicious of her from the beginning and only played nice to get her comfortable. It does suck though when it’s too good to be true 😂

@Natasha420 The problem is, we look by western eyes on parents who grew up in a different culture. From what I have read, in the east such parenting as their is not abnormal. People have great expectations of their children and pressure them to do their best. So this parents were probably using the same parenting method that their parents had used on them. Unfortunatelly they were not in the East anymore and their children were surrounded by kids whose parents were using much different methods.
Anyway, no matter how harsh their methods were, they succesfully brought up her brother without him becoming a murderer, right? So the problem wasn't only in the method of upbringing it was also in the girl's character. They were strict, yes, but she could have just worked harder and find a field to excell in. Or she could have tried and then crumble under pressure and end up in a psychiatrist's care. Or she could have run away and build her life according to her own ideas. But she had chosen to lie to her parents, to take their money, falsify her study records and live a lazy and easy life. That shows a deep flaw in her character.

I think he got there real quick.

@Sum Guy this comment is a year old now. It already has 77 comments.

Yes they are good just like Columbo I call it the Colombo method

The problem is: they are so good they get people to confess even though they've done nothing wrong. It's a real issue. They use psychological techniques to break down someone to the point where they will confess just to get the pressure to stop. People have been sent away for 20 years due to these techniques.

@Muskoka Mike nar

@Muskoka Mike I wholeheartedly agree. I watched his video about those two people who were both innocent but the differences in their defense. The first guy honestly made me irate because he wasn’t defending himself like an innocent person should in that situation...ended up serving hard time. He was just so calm and relaxed smh

@Michael Grace yar.

She said at the end I thought you were on my side😢 haha

@Muskoka Mike That's really rare. People that are guilty are sent away for 20 years, these techinques are implemented to be used against manipulators, deceivers, and liars, as they are tough nuts to crack. If interrogated with no guilt, they can also see that you are also telling the truth, by body language, choice of words, and emotional responses.

@By yours truly Really rare? you don't seem to care that innocent people are tried convicted and sentenced.

Yes, they can tell if you are actually innocent or guilty, sometimes, but in many cases, they don't care. They just want to close the case and the DA just wants a conviction. Numerous DAs and Judges have been caught hiding evidence that proves the accused innocent.

I guess that's ok with you as long as it doesn't happen to YOU right?

IMO opinion if any cop, investigator, DA or Judge knowingly charges or convicts an innocent person they should automatically face double the prison time that person would or has served. Summary sentencing, no trial.

BTW: 10 a year since 1989 if you want to know the stats.

​@Muskoka Mike With 100 million cases per year within this "god-forsaken" country ranging from traffic stops, petty theft, disorderly misconduct, up to homicide and what not, and 600000 of those convicted and sentenced, then 10 wrongful convictions is considered pretty rare.

The justice system isn't exactly perfect, but what i said about their tactics of interrogation is needed to get the absolute truth from the deceitful and coercive. My condolences to the wrongfully convicted but it is what it is.

What you just said at the end contradicts to your whole view of the wrongfully convicted. Everybody has a right to fair trial, what if a judge or DA gets wrongfully convicted themselves, just defeats your purpose of your whole argument.

@By yours truly Again, unless it happens to you. "what if the DA or judge...." well, considering the evidence to exonerate the convict has to be pretty substantial to over turn the conviction, it would be an open and shut case. If they didn't give the accused a fair trial, why should THEY be entitled to one?

For eg: The judge in Michigan who ruled in her own divorce case, and was banging a cop/witness in another. She also had "sex parties" in her chambers.

Another more recently example of legal malpractice was in the Kyle Rittenhouse case: the prosecutors sent a copy of a video to the defence that ended up being low resolution compared to their copy. Their reasoning? "sending videos through emails degrades the quality"....which it doesn't, and sending a video through email DOESN'T CHANGE THE FILE NAME. Blatant legal malpractice right there. That's a blatant case of evidence tampering. Both of them should be disbarred or at the very least, sanctioned.

If you're going to open the argument that "x number of crimes/trials occur" then ok, we can discuss the amount of witness tampering, "lost evidence", evidence tampering, back room deals, blatant mistakes by judges, (a recent one that was over turned in a superior court stated that the lower court judge has no business presiding over a court room).

@By yours truly LOL you bring up ALL cases that come before the courts but when I do, you call it "rage and seethe"?

LOL you're a joke, and not in a stand up comedian sort of way.

@Muskoka Mike So like what kind of joke then? A one-liner? A bad dad joke?

Yeah I always go back to this interrogation video just to see these guys at their A game , scary good is a good way to put it !

@By yours truly it won't matter now with the new SC decision about being misrepresented during a trial. You literally will not have an appeals process to be able to submit any evidence that may not have been submitted at the original trial. If you were represented poorly, oh well sucks to be you. There will be many more innocent people in jail

The silly thing is a lot of people in the comments are angry at those pointing this out. We know murder is bad. We know she’s in the wrong. That doesn’t mean we can’t analyze the situation and decide where such a destructive and risky decision comes from. If anything it’s better this way. We need to know what makes a murderer so that less will be made.

@applespotty 223 I agree wholeheartedly. Couldn't have said it better

@applespotty 223 This there's a huge difference between being ok with murder and acknowledging the probable reason the murder happened. They weren't good parents and I'm kinda sick of people pretending like EXPECTING their children to go into a medical career is somehow wanting the best for them.

she was the one who organized the crime not the bf

@FFF nobody said he organised it, just that he definitely encouraged the idea and may have been the catalyst. She didn’t do it herself, if she’d never met someone with those kinds of connections it may never have happened. It’s still her fault and her doing, but the circumstances still matter.

I agree. Her parents made her move back in when she was 24-years old. There was something seriously wrong with them as well.

I agree completely!

Holy shit she was 24??! I haven't finished the video yet but my god she looks so young, she looks like a teenager. I didn't live under a fraction of the control she did with her parents and I literally contemplated murdering my parents from the stress, but thought "nah I'd definitely get caught and go to jail, it'll be easier to just stick it out and get away once I'm old enough."
Doesn't help that both my parents have a history of mental health issues lol but seriously, when you feel like you have no way out of that kind of desperate situation you start thinking in terms of survival. Suicide comes easily to mind but when it's your own parents abusing you, murder can seem like an appealing option too.
I'm just so sad for the wonderful life she could have lived if only her parents weren't such insane and controlling pieces of shit. She literally could have gone to the Olympics but that didn't mean anything to them once she became injured. Disgusting and sad.

@applespotty 223 of course people are angry at the insinuation that it was provoked. At the age of 18 she was free to get out of her home and even never talk to her parents ever again. What she did was keep trying to live off of her parents' help, while lying that she obeys them, till she eventually murdered them.

Being strict to someone doesn't make a murderer. Regardless of how strict. That's why murder is "wrong" and "evil", because there's never any good or bad reason for it(there's literally no circumstances where it's legit to think "I have to kill X because of Y"). So, please, strict parents only mean strict parents. It doesn't mean murderer factory.

@applespotty 223 yes. The best method to fight crimes is to prevent them. Same goes for criminals.

@Yavor Angelov if you believe that there’s never a reason, good or bad, for murder then do you just think some people are born with a seed of badness

@Yavor Angelov I understand a murder case is horrific and awful but you’re making a lot of assumptions.

To say she was “free to leave” and say she just wanted to live off of her parents sounds like you assume she had been adequately prepared by her parents to live an independent life. She wasn’t. And there are plenty of resources available for you to learn about the life she had before and how her parents raised her.

It wasn’t as simple as her just wanting money. Her parents did not send her into the world to work and earn an income to support herself. They wanted her to follow a very specific path and the path did not include giving her the life skills to be independent. Because being independent means she could deviate from the path.

I’m not suggesting murder was the only way or the best way. But I have to say, your insistence that she could have just left is ignorant of many components in this case.

Yeah, the problem is that shame is one of THE most powerful emotions and can utterly control a person. The parents ruled her under the threat of shame. She was totally immersed in their cult and they actually brought her up to be weak. They deliberately did not want her to be strong enough to make her own choices. As you say, it’s not an excuse for murder, but it certainly sets the scene. It’s the law of unintended consequences

Jesus, just remove all of her agency. You're one sentence away from saying she was coerced to do it.
She made the decisions, she planned it all, and she convinced the boyfriend.
Just because she's a woman doesn't mean she instantly not responsible for her actions. Disgusting type of sexism shown here.

@iIliterati he’s not saying she wasn’t responsible. He’s pointing out, so other parents can see, that your children are what you make ‘em. It’s not enough to think only about them obeying you in the moment like a puppy. It’s not only about whether or not she has the correct career. You are making a new adult. You want them to be well rounded, to have emotional, educational, personal, moral, integrity and intelligence.

@Clare Shaughnessy I'm speaking directly about the boyfriend part - hence why the rest of my comment specifically talked about how it was her planning, and her convincing him. As was shown through the evidence.
People have a tendency to completely remove all agency when it comes to women doing bad things. We're all people, we make our own decisions; man or woman.

@applespotty 223 It was about money.
She could have left, but then she wouldn't get any insurance money or any inheritance from her parents. Her parents seem to have done well for themselves (drove a Mercedes and Lexus), she wanted that wealth.

I am sure she and her drug dealer boyfriend were conspiring to steal her parents fortune. Spend it all on drugs probably.

Afterall, if all she wanted to do was get away and be with her boyfriend, she was allowed to do that. She would just lose access to her parents money. No, what she and her boyfriend really wanted, was cash.

I see what you’re saying, however, there’s always an excuse. She admitted herself she had been given the opportunity and option to leave. She consciously chose to remain with the intention of continuing to see her boyfriend and began a premeditated plan to kill her parents. There are always mitigating circumstances in any kind of case like this, yes her parents had high expectations of Jennifer but clearly their intentions were only in her best interests. What she went on to do proves she needed guidance as her own decisions were pretty atrocious such as doing this. The fact is she was a 24 year old woman who CHOSE to remain with her parents. She CHOSE to continue to see her boyfriend. She CHOSE to have her parents killed. Let’s stop making excuses for what she did, because what she did was abhorrent.

Very eloquently put. Adding onto this, it seems like when she suffered her injury that halted her dreams of pursuing figure skating and was abruptly forced to readjust her life expectations at such a young age would've been so mentally damaging on top of the strictness of her parents. That must have been crushing, and the lack of sympathy from her parents also feeds into this perfect storm. This girl needed psychological help when she was a teenager. This could have put her on a different path. What she did was awful and horrific, and yes she was justly charged with what she did. But imagine the countless other families out there that treat their children this way. It's a cut and dry case where I have sympathy for the devil.

@SpiffyPenguin Yeah, when I was 24 I was still living with my parents because my father had broken me down psychologically so much that I thought I was incapable of living by myself. I thought about killing him plenty of times. It was only having my sister offer me to come live with her that got me out. I didn't even really believe I could make it, moving out felt reckless and illogical, but I was at the end of my rope and I had to do something "extreme"

U know it’s 4 in the morning girl and I gotta go

You can’t stop a psychopath.

@Yavor Angelov any dog no matter how kind, small and harmless will bite with all its might when it's cornered and there is no way to go. It's a self-preservation instinct.
People who, in cases like this, pontificate about "good" and "evil" does not have a slightest idea about amount psychological pressure some people go through, what it does to their minds and to what extent they will go to free themselves from it.

@SpiffyPenguin I would agree but her parents never were taught how to work or live a normal life, they were Vietnamese immigrants (war and poverty, no homes just shacks barely and lack of food). She definitely could’ve figured it out if she wanted to, many people do, she’s just a crappy person, she was smart enough to forge grades and diplomas she could’ve did a lot.

@applespotty 223 the problem is the sexism angle, had this been a male sitting here, no one would be trying to rationalize it for him. It's the reason we need to get over women being weak little victims in our society. And pushing the "poor little girl" angle does a disservice to women everywhere. I agree with what you are saying, but if you can only do it for one gender, I'm sorry, you're sexist and we need to go back to treating ppl equally, even if that hurts.

@LucilleB They didn't force her to move back, they just told her to either be an adult and fend for herself, or be a child and go back to their house. She chose to be a child.

@Charlie B No one is spinning the “poor little girl” angel, people are spinning the “my parents were abusive too and I understand angel”, and if society has taught us anything, especially with jurors, it’s men who spin the “poor little girl” story and fall head over heels for it. Just men, and other women like the woman shown in the video, no level headed, normal woman is ever going to agree with the “poor little girl” rhetoric.

@Charlie B you might be right that there would be a double standard. it's not a double standard i'm making. jeff dahmer was a killer who could've been prevented. it's not rationalizing, but yes, let's analyze the backstories for both sexes.

@Ruby Blue the parents savings was DEFINITELY a factor to the bf.

It is important to note that they have done to actually innocent people and got the same results. Doesn't mean they shouldn't do it, but it is important to remember that. If you ever find yourself in a room like that, regardless of the circumstances, whether you are guilty or innocent, even if you are a witness, you need a lawyer.

And for her, specifically, her guilty verdict was a relief. The prison she is in right now is a virtual heaven compared to what her life was like before all of this. She was already in prison, she was a prisoner her entire life. Even after her parents were shot, one of them dead, and she was temporarily free of them, she was still in a prison of her own making. I know this because I used to have my own prison, and jail set me free of it.

I'd probably be nervous regardless if I was guilty or not.

If they didnt do that then criminals like her would never get recognised for their crimes

"Only charisma"? They also use deception and fear among other tactics.

They put all point in charisma and intelligence.

Yea these room are specifically made for you to incriminate yourself as much as possible

When you max our your Charisma and Speech skills:

They know a lot about psychology.

That shit won't work on me

@Paradoxapuss Darkshadow agreed but the deception part might get me. I bet they're mad good at it

CCP 💎

They also have procedures for asking the right questions etc. Its forensic psychology. So yes, charisma but also decades of interrogation knowledge

Yeah, charisma is the last thing I would attribute it to. It's called years of training and experience in psychological manipulation and taking advantage of ignorance of theaw on behalf of the suspect. If she was smart (in the context of wanting to get away w it anyway, not condoning her actions) she would never have set foot in that police station after the initial encounter with the first detective and then just laid low and kept her damn mouth shut. But, she was making decisions based on emotions and not on logic.

But it's absolutely fucked up that police are allowed to lie to get confessions, especially given how often it leads to false or coerced confessions which land innocent people in jail and the actual perpetrator remaining at large.

Sometimes I fear that because they’re so good at their job that they would make the best criminals…

@Daniel Duncan So what you're saying is that we should send her to somewhere worse than prison, because she doesn't deserve to feel free.

yeah I was like damn, I'm sorry .

Same! I felt terrible

Right at that moment you see her face dark and scary. The murderous soul came out.

Yeah, she felt that shit.

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idk. I might've felt a bit proud y'know

time stamp?

@Umm No 39:11 look at that👹

@Underyourbedeyes 😂😂😂 he said it with so much conviction that i was hit with flashbacks of my old mistakes, felt attacked 😂

@R K exactly lol

Eh, probably didn't do much to her, though. If she literally arranged for her parents to be murdered and didn't shed so much as a single tear at her mother's funeral, I doubt hearing that would've suddenly wracked her with guilt.

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@0Thianna0 Thank you. It is 'hanacaraka' in javanese

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HE SAID THIS JUST AS I READ THIS COMMENT. THE CHILLS I FELT OMG.

@S W L K she didn't do it for the money lol

Lol exactly. I almost confessed too 😂

same i felt like i had to personally apologize

So crazy that I scrolled down right at this part and saw the comment at the same exact time

@Augmented1989 -0- fr made me feel like i committed the crime

I felt nothing idk what that says about me

@Boris von Alpenberg she didnt kill them, she couldnt. She just saw the negative things her parents did through a lens, but was caught on a pebble of their positive actions. Thats why she couldn't kill them directly

Late but could anyone timestamp this quote please?

@BlazerHeata 38:47

@Timeless14 thank you!

@Umm No 38:00

That wasnt a guilt trip that was a guilt vacation 😭

What I don't get, is why she didn't just say the robbers panicked and fled after her parents were not compliant with the robbers and they shot them. I mean I'm glad she didn't but she could have given any number of plausible reasons why the robbers didn't kill her.

Thank you! Your list should be a pinned comment.

This must have took you forever

Interesting.

@Menibor1 Right? It must've at least taken one and a half hours.

This is such a good contribution. Thank you.

Omg thank you

God bless you

A real hero right here.

Lifesaver

Thank you Captain!

should be in the top comment

OMG 👏

thank you for the summary! it's good to look back on when noticing certain details and aspects of jennifer's performance.

@don’t at me tf so that people can look back on information when they notice something in the video, and can correlate certain behaviours and choices to past ones.

@don’t at me tf because some people just want to skim through it to get to the best parts

yes a great contribution

@don’t at me tf so that people like me can just skip over the info quickly and save time lol

@Claudible he would never, that would negatively impact the watch time lol

@Adam Lane 😂

The time you took to watch it and to comment, 🙏

With the case of the second investigator, I don't think it necessarily has to do with experience, but rather circumstance. Jennifer was classified as a witness with the first detective, however, was classified as a suspect with the second detective. So the strategy had to change, but both detectives are experienced.

Thank you!!!

Someone has a lot of time on their hands…

Wow, you are impressive!

Thank you so much. I appreciate your comment

exactly, i agree.

exactly!

"Extremely intelligent"? What did Jennifer's parents do or what profession were either of them in for you to think that?

Yeah, getting away with shit as a kid is not a good thing.

@Jon Cook, I don't think the parent is that bright either, so they got the kid the same as them. The mother didn't even try to learn more English after living a long time in Canada.

exactly what i was thinking.. how did she possibly make those fake doucuments coz nowadays everything is so strict.

Maybe "self empowering" in the case that it gets her overly controlling parents off her back. Not justifying her actions at all. Just saying "Asian parent strictness" is no joke, yo. It can seriously be a whoooole other level than what most people consider as very strict.

I think the whole faking of her grades was entirely driven by extreme shame.

If her parents were normal, she wouldn't do that. None of this would happen if they only weren't that stupid to only see academical knowledge in their child. Of course that happened when you treat your child like this.

I imagine the exact opposite. She does it once to get out of trouble. After that she has to do it again and again until she ends up in a situation so complicated, with the pressure getting higher and higher and she becomes more and more desperate. Haven’t you ever told one lie only for it to lead to another then another until it spins totally out of control?

@Jon Cook they probably just assumed that since the parents had high expectations,they would've been raised the same and been smart to

@Amina Kanat ofcourse u get murdered? Gosh, that’s a bold statement to say

@Clare Shaughnessy no, that’s more of a problem woman find themselves in

I wish I could say her parents were extremely intelligent, nut treating you child like that only shows how close minded and dim you are, this would have never happened if they treated her normally or with st least a little dignity and respect and gave her credit in what she liked to do :( it pains me to see families like this

@a the high expectations are from the lack of success achieved from the parents therefore projecting their desires onto their children as a success story

she was probably living a comfortable life bc of her parents so leaving them would mean that she has to provide for herself alone and clearly she wasn't capable of that without money

@catherine elise Living as a 24 year old treated like a 15 year old with the world's expectations and 0 support hardly sounds "comfortable". It sounds rather stressful and borderline abusive, the kind of concoction that corrupts a person after 24 years.

@Nick financially comfortable was what I meant. yes, her parents were abusive but if it weren't for her parents' money she would be broke and that wasn't what she wanted. her parents gave her an ultimatum: live with her bf who couldn't support her financially or stay with her parents and continue her studies and wouldn't have to worry about finances. she couldn't accept both choices so she created a third choice apparently which is get rid of her parents so she could have the money and be free

Seriously, after 10 minutes I would lose patience and be like "BITCH SHUT YO ASS UP I KNOW YOU DID IT JUST SAY IT" which would just cause them to stay silent the rest of the interview LMAO.

@Gabe HappyFeet Tucker generalizing a bit there

@ZangBang it's true what you say. I'm pretty accepting of myself though and I feel most people are not and I see those very people generalize too but they wont ever accept that that they generalize but speak truth and with entitlement enough any opinion they will have formed be treated as perfectly correct..I also was just saying shit to be funny though I'm sure some didn't see the humor i do apologize for what it is worth but what's good is that I do have that right. You know damn well any cop will exercise his rights and also exercise in ways not right but sneaky in attempts to convincing we don't have right with lies most typically. look all people cops. gangs all people are both good and bad but guess what only one category or us all are the ones with a badge. both dirty as all fuck but one with authority and one not

Honestly it's so cool! As well as the psychological manipulation presented. It's so so effective and really tangled the suspects in their words. These detectives are so smart and how well it works on guilt and emotion is insane!!

It’s kinda their job to stay calm and patient to get everything they need

@Gabe HappyFeet Tucker why wud u say that? They have studied much more than cops and these detectives are EXPERTS bringing g justice .

@Me, myself and I: lol exactly

@Chirps me too😁👍

@Craig Nowhere Preach brother

Lol....right!

You don’t need patience if you enjoy what you do. Obviously there’s something exciting about solving crimes like a game and/or a puzzle. Ya know?

@Craig Nowhere yes men are proven to be more rational, logical, but these guys are experts

@Craig Nowhere bruh acting like women detectives don’t exist ☠️☠️

They get paid by the hour right ? ;)

theyre canadian what can i say

Ikr? I'm here watching and cussing her out..... I couldn't do what these detectives do.

@Leilarna relief, even. Maybe in some cases you're unsure they actually did it and fear that you're harassing an innocent.

I couldn't do it

@Brannon Winchester probably salary more likely

@ZangBang 🤣🤣🤣

Patience is one of the main quality they need

@Gabe HappyFeet Tucker take your meds

I blame the parents not only did they force her to get straight A's... rather than trying to understand why she did what she did they gave her an ultimatum forcing her to go thought the same shit Again are they that blind not to notice their own biases ...

That, and staying in track and keeping details straight in their own heads. It's insane!

@Gabe HappyFeet Tucker I agree. Their partners are most likely murders, or associate with immoral humans in the police force.

@ZangBang LFMAOAOOAAO

@asian girl i don't understand but most like was someing taking out of context i joke around a lot

no frfr i would lose

I would be throwing up by now if I was her. I have anxiety and I didn’t do anything

I think if you're good at being methodic, you don't need to be patient

Low key this is entertaining to see her attempt to trick you

Right? I can barely do stuff I like for 4 hours lol.

It’s THEIR job. Our high taxes pay their salary. Most of them are lazy and just want to make an arrest, they don’t care who just anyone so they can close the case.

@Me, myself and I: and this is why so many ppl don’t become cops because even if they pass every other test, they’ll fail the psychological test and many DONT become cops because of it. I know this all too well. The psych test is very tricky, u can’t hide your true self. If you’re a racist jerk for example, it will come out. But not all police depts have great psychologists. And many bad ppl slip thru and become cops. I have a cop family so I know a lot about this.

It's not patience, it's intentional. They're building rapport and getting the person to feel more familiar and comfortable around them. They're actually getting a positive emotional reaction from you just watching them talk to these people for so long. It's the same principle and all choreographed. Read "The Like Switch," and "The Truth Detector." How they act is designed to get people to relate to them, and people like who they know and relate to.

no fr especially in cases where they already know what’s up! i hate when people lie to my face

@Goner Kid I do think the lying about how much evidence they have on you is unethical.

GOOD COP OR BAD COP

@Gabe HappyFeet Tucker get laid bro

@ZangBang i love this comment- 😩

Lots of patience, and training.

@i was born at a very young age being a cop isn’t really the same as being black or Asian or whatever else though. Being a cop is a choice, you can’t choose what race you are. Just saying.

@Owlet still not a reason for her to have them killed

It’s baffling after hearing that poor man scream on the phone, the detective is capable of being lied to, to his face, without planting her face firmly into the wall. I couldn’t do it.

I know! I could never be a defective, a copy. I have no patience for idiots, rude people, or liars. I’ll stick to working with animals .

its there job to be fucking godly patience.

And in the end they found 10000 text massages lmfao

@Gabe HappyFeet Tucker bro what

@ZangBang 😂😂😂😂

@Gabe HappyFeet Tucker 🤣🤣🤣

That's their job. This is not for everybody. It takes to be that kind of a person.

They have to catch her as many times in contradictions in her sharade as possible. It helps them to get a case.

An example of that on this particular YouTube channel is the interrogation of Jodi Arias by Mesa AZ Police detective Esteban Flores and Siskiyou County CA Sheriff's detective Rachel Blaney in July of 2008 in regards to the violent murder of Jodi's ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander. Detective Flores had a mind-boggling level of patience with Jodi as she was going on and on about topics that had nothing to do with the murder of Travis. Detective Blaney on the other hand had no desire to listen to Jodi's insufferable ramblings.

The sheer amount of blood lust these killers have is insane.

Su estilo de vida sedentaria de "libertad condicional" de encierro en su morada le impedía cavilar esa posibilidad que era imposible en su mente

sounds like you have maybe had some experience? lol kidding

Almost. There's still the burner phone recordings of her talking to the hitmen.

@Crucix ah! Correct. I suppose a physical chat would’ve worked best but then again wasn’t there a recording of the men entering through a neighbors camera footage? Oh well, glad she was caught, interest to see how it all played out.

@𝓚𝓸𝓲𝓼𝓾𝓾

She definitely got close, which is scary. And sneaking out before it went down would definitely have been a smarter move.

But hey, like you said, as long as she got caught!

Or like literally being anywhere. Being in the house was such a stupid decision for her.

Not only that but she traumatized herself too. This plan could’ve went smoothly if they actually had thought about it a little more. But either way she got caught so thank god.

I think she wanted to be there when it happened…

@Husker

And that was a horrendous mistake on her part

@Crucix

Absolutely it was a mistake, but I think it was intentional. It had to have crossed her mind whether or not she should be there or wanted to be there when her parents get murdered.

But I still think she would’ve been caught if she wasn’t there. The detectives would have been looking for a reason they were targeted. She still likely would’ve acted sketchy when they brought her in for questioning. They would’ve found out about her troubled relationship with her parents… It may have taken longer but I think they would have caught her eventually.

@Husker

I agree completely. I think she would have been caught eventually too. I was just saying she was stupid for deciding to be there when it went down 😂

She still probably would have gotten caught, but she would have at least had a better chance if she "snuck out."

@Crucix plus the burner phone conversations were still recorded so she would've definitely gotten caught either way

i dont think that strategy of sneaking out like a delinquet would work, even if the burner phones weren't found. it is something she would have had to been doing for a long time already, and that would've never occurred to her because she didn't seriously plan to kill her parents until much later.

additionally, it could have been suspicious itself because maybe she wanted to eliminate all risk of them killing her or of avoiding anything so that she can relax while it happens, and she wouldnt have been able to make the suicide excuses either

@Crucix right, the burner phone did her in

Well it was also because she was being a bit greedy to she was also planning to steal all their money ://

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@Glod Mod Maybe her thinking was like "i hate my parents so much, the only good thing they could possibly give me is money". She grew so aphatetic and angry that she stopped seeing them as parents, and just wanted them to stop getting in her way. This is just me trying to explain, tough, i don't defend the parents nor her.

yeah i kinda want to be empathetic... but she had another choice, to cut them off, she just didn't want to have to work. She wanted their insurance or inheritance bc she was lazy.

@Flori You can be empathetic and still abhor her actions. Her parents were horrible to her, and horrible parenting creates horrible people. She's still responsible for her actions. That doesn't mean her parents didn't put her in the situation where she felt like she needed murder as an out. If they had given Jen an actually good childhood, things would have been different.

Toxic expectations on the part of the parents? Not hardly, though they had high expectations to be sure. As for the juvenile, yes it's hard to grow up right. That's why it's a challenge. A lot of them fail to live up to the bar, but going off the rails as severely as she did is an aberration which, though tragic, should not affect parenting practices in the slightest.

@J Hemphill Expecting your child to be the best of the best at everything they do 24/7 and threatening total abandonment at the slightest slip up is absolutely toxic. I have parents who are only one step below that and it’s permanently damaged my confidence, self-esteem, and work ethic.

@The Louster That would be toxic, but you said one step below that, so not actually that? Yeah, I figure your problems don't stem entirely from them. What's even more toxic than what you describe is the fad of throwing one's strict but well-intentioned parents under the bus to be presumed accountable for any and all of one's personal woes. Grow up and take some responsibility for your own life, man.

@J Hemphill The step below I referred to was instead of a constant threat of disowning it was berating and insulting for doing anything less than perfection.

It doesnt explain shit.
She was given the option to leave and be disowned but she didnt do that because she still needed their 'her parents' money. Thats why she did this.

What I find more disturbing is the people defending the parents behavior. Granted, they didn't deserve to die, but it sounds like they were very emotionally abusive and distant from a daughter that was hungry for some love and support, and so she ran into the arms of a dirtbag drug dealer. I can understand wanting your child to always give their best effort, but that's very different from somebody berating/becoming emotionally distant from their child the moment they're less than perfect.

I was thinking the same thing.

They didn't love her

@Yankee Carolyn nope they didn't love her. She was a project to them. No better than a trophy to show off to their friends.

Its weird because she has a brother who didnt become a murderer. Not only she tried to have assurance money but she plan the whole murder from a to z with her boyfriend by message. How horrific is it? You should read some article about this case because they were not the best parent but they werent that bad.. They tried to have succes for their children by not letting their child date drug dealer and having degree. Also her mother said "dont kill my daugher" to the guys trying to murder them.

@HiddenGodful I believe the defendant disagrees with your take.

@F!@#Guilt Right!! My parents treated me this way too. I kept trying to make peace with them and explain how shitty it was to keep pressuring me & comparing me to others even as a young adult!!! They refused to understand me so I recently cut off contact, it’s a huge weight off my shoulders.

@Akh Las So true. All my closest friends & bf are 2nd gen like me bc we bonded over how unreasonable our tiger parents were LOL (I came from a Russian household)

@LisaKirova parents aren't kin if you are less valuable to them than your performance. I'm like you. We are many, the exiled. Remember that you matter, even if only to yourself. Be well.

How is this bad parenting? They expected her to excel. Being a tough parent is not being a bad parent. A bad parent wouldn't care and let the kid do whatever they wanted. "You're dating a drug dealer and lied about dropping out? That's okay sweetie! You can live with us until your 50!"

@Midir there's a difference between wanting your kids to excel and treating them like property or a trophy. What the girl did was illegal and immoral. However. The parents have their sins as well. If you've never experienced top down authoritarian parenting, well, let's just say regular beatings, screaming due to mistakes, anger anger anger all the time, its never ever ever good enough, etc. Your kids feels unloved and easily disposable. They have ZERO respect for the parents. And why should they? The parents hate them and will never accept them or their efforts (from the kids point of view). Eventually the kids does whatever they feel they can get away with. Parents have been kid-o-cided many times in the world because of this. All the parents had to do was act like the kids meant something to them. But the kid sees it as "my life is a permanent failure". Kids kill themselves over this too. The story in this video has no good guys.

@Akh Las Indias in Asia

​@F!@#Guilt It's not a parent's job to be friends with their kids. You don't have to agree with their parenting style but being hard on your kid and expecting them to succeed isn't abuse. The fact that they even gave her another chance after she lied about her diplomas for years shows her parents were more than fair to her. Finding out your daughter is secretly a high school drop out and was living with a drug dealer for several years is enough to kick her out on the spot. She was a grown woman and was told to straighten up or get out. She is not legally required to stay with her parents past 18. She was 24. If she didn't like what her parents were telling her to do then she should have left. The parents aren't 1% at fault for what happened.

Her actions made her a failure. Graduating high school is not a difficult task for even the dumbest kids. All you need is literally an ounce of effort and she couldn't even handle that. Well, no. It's not that she couldn't handle it, she chose not to. I fully believe she was capable of far more academically but she just wanted the easy way out and didn't want to study. She was a screw up for a long time and the murder plot just proves how much of a terrible kid she was all along.

@Midir the only part I agree with is that the parents shouldn't have let her stay home. 18 means parental obligations end. The tired "parents no be friends" is not a valid excuse for bad parenting. Parents should be able to be mentors, guides, without being push overs. It's called acting like an adult. I believe parents can be friendLY. I believe parents should act like leaders. The principles of good leadership should apply to parenting. The excuse "parent no be friends" is a piss poor excuse. Again, there are no good people in this story.

@Akh Las A “sad tradition” that puts them at the top of the world in terms of success. Do you even hear yourself? You people are unbelievable. It turns out when you have a culture of overachieving you tend to overachieve. Last time I checked, that’s a good thing.

That wasnt bad parenting? Their daughter was picking a bad and toxic life. They didnt want to see her be destroyed. They made a good judgment obviously as it the man being in her life caused their deaths. They were good parents. Ive seen and heard bad parents. If you think these are bad parents I dont know how to function throughout your life dude

@F!@#Guilt I completely disagree. The moment she dropped out of high school and started dating and living with a drug dealer while lying about going to college, there was absolutely no pedestal where they could have put her even if she got her shit together eventually. They gave her the option of fixing her life instead of outright disowning her right then and there, only because they loved her. They were very strict parents but they obviously were thinking about their children's future. They might have been misguided and wrong in their methods but you don't get to say that they didn't love her.

@Francisco Rivas I know what it feels like to be a project (I was a religious project and am now estranged). Whatever your parents intentions are is irrelevant. What matters is what the kids observe. If you treat them like you don't like them, that's what the kids will think. Do you love them? Don't just say it. ACT like it. Being friendly, approachable, and acting like you are happy they exist means FAR more to a kid. They have to know you are on their side. If they don't see your actions, your words mean nothing. The fact this girl put out a hit on her parents says everything. But it's not just her fault things got to this point. The parents were clearly not good leaders. Good leaders foster loyalty. Parents that treat their kids like property inevitably see a slaves revolt against them. Parents should be a kids number one source of guidance and a kid that trusts their parents will seek out the guidance. But the kid must trust the parents before they will seek out the guidance. Kids who are treated like property act out. Why? Because they feel alone in the world. They will seek safety first. Apparently she felt safer with the boyfriend than her parents. If she felt like she actually mattered to her parents (they treated her like she didn't matter to them unless she performed well, like a pet or circus animal), perhaps she never would have taken this course of action.

@Akh Las Parental love is supposed to be unconditional. Love is action...they weren't loving to her at all by the sounds of things. In fact, they actively showed her that they didn't love her by threatening to disown her if she wasn't the child they wanted her to be. This doesn't excuse her actions, but I totally understand why she might have had a boiling rage towards them. Its the greatest wound, being rejected by your parents.

@Midir She very likely wouldn't have lied in the first place if she'd had supportive parents who would have accepted her unconditionally - this is literally the job of a parent. You don't get to decide what type of child you get. There's a HUGE difference between wanting your child to excel and expecting them to excel, then cutting them off if they don't. I'm astounded at the lack of emotional intelligence in these comments.

@Midir Jesus Christ I genuinely hope you're not a parent.

@Artie Can you not see that her parents were the catalyst for her lying...if they'd have been unconditionally supportive and loving, she wouldn't have felt the need to lie.

@Francisco Rivas Parents should NEVER under any circumstances threaten or actually disown their children though!

Just a reminder, you can acknowledge that they were bad parents while also acknowledging that they didn't deserve to be fucking murdered.

@RoboFist's Revenge But they werent bad parents :/

@F!@#Guilt That's not the point though. Yes, the parenting methods of these parents leaves a lot to be desired. But considering that even after this girl betrayed their expectations with years of lies, they were able to look past it and help her put her life together instead of outright disinheriting her on the spot, proves that she was much more than a project to them.

The "project" had failed the moment they figured out she was a high school dropout drug dealer lying to them about being in college for years. Her parents had no reason to give her a place to live and an opportunity to get back on track with her life. They wouldn't have done that if they didn't genuinely care about her more than about their reputation. That's what I was replying to.

@Francisco Rivas your view is exactly what perpetuates bad parenting. If the parents act in "a socially acceptable way", nobody acts like that way is ever a problem. You think this girl just up one day and was like "gee my parents sure love me. I'm akill em now."? No reason at all?

If a parenting style leads to bad outcomes, its never a problem unless you personally disagree with it. What about the girl? What really leaf her to do this? You think she's just a bad person? No no no.

The parents style may be acceptable in public. But what does it do to the kid's brain? Don't you think that should matter? Cause I do. She is clearly guilty. However. SO ARE the parents. Nobody is innocent in this case.

The parents made her feel unwanted. The parents did that. If she didn't do what she did everyone in their circle would think everything was just fine.

Meanwhile, in the dark of solitude, unknown to the world, this girl wastes away. All they had to do was treat her like she mattered to them in a way SHE could interpret. Instead, those parents did what mine a and millions of others did. None of them are innocent even if the kids don't fall apart or do something illegal in a way that proves the damage the parents caused.

@Frances Prendergast I completely disagree. Disowning means that they're not to be given the inheritance. I see absolutely no reason to assume that children should be entitled to their parents possessions, and I see many different reasons why the parents would be completely justified in deciding not to inherit anything to their children.

@LisaKirova you did the right thing. Parents should treat their children as actual human beings.

@Midir being a rough parent is being a bad parent. Parents should be a comfort zone to their child. Or a child will seek love from someone else. From a drug addict, for example.

@Midir no it's not. So many children commit suicide in Asia because of their grades. Parents don't give them love, so they seek it from bad people, like drug dealers.

@HiddenGodful well, firstly, my guess is, in a very traditional household, the boy was treated very differently from the girl. Secondly, it’s been long studied that women react very differently from men to the same kind of treatment. Finally, she wasn’t a child, she acts like one, but she’s 25 apparently.
It’s a bit like drunk driving isn’t it. It doesn’t always end up in a disaster, but you’re certainly increasing the chance that it will

@Akh Las India is South Asia

@Akh Las brah what are with Asian and Indian parents?? India is a part of Asia aka desi's Asian. Asia are East Asia (Japan, china, SK, NK, Mongolia etc), Southeast Asia (PH, Indo, Thai, Viet, Singapore, Malay etc), South Asia (India, Pakistan, Nepal etc), & Central Asia (Uzbek, Kazakh etc).

@Akh Las I didn't see your previous comment when I answered...yeah India is Asia. It just sounds kinda wrong when people classify India as if it's not part of Asia. Asian have diversity people tho, not just the typical stereotype of Asia like people in East Asia (Japan, SK, China etc) as a lot of Western people think. Btw Myanmar is in SEA/Southeast Asia

Amazing? I think u mean fascinating or shocking...

@Midir " It's not a parent's job to be friends with their kids"
Raising properly =/= being their friend. Emotional abuse =/= parenting. Got it?

@Frances Prendergast
And there's a HUGE difference between a child failing to meet expectations, and dropping out then lying about it and then getting involved with a drug dealer. By the sound of things, they weren't even the type of parents who forced their kids to do a specific job, just to get an education. She wanted to be a figure skater, there was no indication that they were against that. No "No, be a doctor".

Are some of y’all oki??!!! Yea some parents are messed up but stop straight blaming other parents for all their kids failures. People make their decisions, sometimes good or bad. People who push you further in life most of the time has your best interest. Especially when parents who had a terrible start to life, they push their kids to be better and to survive this crazy world. Your child is not going to go far without being push to do things. This might be a cheesy saying to some of y’all but you can bring a horse to water but can’t make it drink. I’m not saying parents who put unbelievable high expectations aren’t being ridiculous.

I know it’s easy for a lot of people to relate to the defendant, but remember this: did you ever consider doing something this horrible to your parents? This is an entirely different level of evil that people like you and I couldn’t ever imagine.

The only way I can personally sort of see it is this.

She was angry her parents took away the first 18+ years of her life, and were threatening more. She want and got revenge by taking away the rest of theirs.

​@Tomas Ponizil I feel like there are A LOT of levels to this. I don't think it's that black and white at all. The typical thing to do in this case is to blame the parents, because when we look at like 90% of true crime cases, the murderers have terrible parents. But ehh...I don't really believe Jen's parents were THAT bad. I think tiger parenting is abusive in general, but tiger parenting IS the norm to most 1st generation Asians. You usually don't hear every Asian going off and killing their parents. No, most of them move on, either cut ties with their family or form a better bond with them as adults. 

I think a lot of people gloss over Daniel Wong in this case, her boyfriend. Numerous sources who know the family and Jen personally, including her brother Felix, stated that there was nothing THAT unusual about how the parents were to Jen. Her own brother can attest to her father having "tough love" and said "but my mother is more gentle..." and her mom was the one who consoled her when she lost her figure skating competitions. Her mom is the one who said "SPARE MY DAUGHTER" in the 911 calls. I have a very hard time thinking her parents abused her to the point of making her a murderer....

You also have to remember that Jen was not some lower-middle class girl. Her parents were wealthy and they had luxury cars and a nice house. If anything, Jen was spoiled. Her parents never had any physical control over her. As a child, maybe, not as a 24 year old woman. She even lived with Daniel and his parents for a while. She was obviously very influenced by her wannabe THUGLIFE boyfriend because he was a bad boy and that was attractive to her. And I wouldn't say her cutting herself (allegedly, as there are no scars or proof to show) directly means it's because of her parents. Not to dismiss her traumas, but when I was a teenager, self-harm was quite common. A lot of us were "suicidal" because when you're a teenager and you're not treated right, you feel like it is a sense of control. 

My point is, I think people need to look more at her boyfriend's influence, because after meeting him is when she started to act delinquent. But don't take my word for it. Her brother Felix Pan has spoken out about the whole thing on many different occasions. If anyone's words have any merit, it should be the other person who grew up in the house with her and her parents.

@Peruvian PuffPepper Look bruh, she can feel angry but murder is no way to solve it. If anything, she should just go out from the house and cut ties with her parents and never speak to them out of resentment. I know how horrible an empty nest syndrome is. Only time can heal such a thing. Moreover, her parent is quite generous. Yes, they are stupid strict but at the same time they pour so many thing to her. You don't bite the hand that feed you since you basically just shoot an opportunity that cut your livelihood.
It's okay to be a bit sly to your parent, but at least be smart about it lol.

@Leera Absolutely. She handled it in the worst way imaginable. She didn't want adult responsibilities, took the easy way out to live with her parents, but thinks that she can somehow continue living her merry life with her boyfriend after her parents were out of the picture. There was no way that would've ever ended well.

Your absolutely right
She was already living with her boyfriend for 2 years and people be acting like she couldn't just cut ties with her family.
She was given a choice as an adult to be independent and live on her own without family help as most normal adults experience or to become a child again and live with her parents but be controlled as a child is but nope she chose to be a greedy murderer

She had a mindset of a 15 yr old. Her parents excessive controlling meant that she didn't have the skills or courage to survive on her own.

@Sachdu being an adult but mentally 15 is a no go atp, everyone should start from somewhere. Life is not easy to anybody of us, if she just chose to find a job and rebuild the relationship with her parents throughout the years ,none of it could have happened ,she was greedy and just wanted their money so she could live a life with her bf by doing nothing, her actions are unjustifiable

@Peruvian PuffPepper They weren't threatening to take her life though, she could have just left, they gave her that option.

@C C" She didn't want adult responsibilities. . . "
Never having been treated remotely like an adult, or even as an individual who existed outside the context of "familial obligation," didn't exactly prepare her. Of course, duh, they didn't "deserve to die," but they certainly fucked that woman/little girl up.

@Shadow Of The Lone Wolf Being completely cut off and disowned by your family is not "just leaving". Maybe you dont understand, but when an asian family does this, its like the JDS church, you effectively no longer exist to the family, in many cases they legally disown you. That is isolating and to a young woman absolutely terrifying. After 24 years of back and forth abuse it may have seemed like they were threatening her.

@Gregory Reese This - I don't condone her actions in the least, but I'm surprised at the number of comments on this video defending the parents. They seemed unreasonably demanding/controlling and (from the outside anyway) treated their flesh and blood more like a trophy/extension of them than a unique person worthy of understanding and love. When it comes to people, excessive pressure often doesn't make diamonds out of coal, it just leaves you with a pile of coal dust. It's weird that there's this polarized mindset when it comes to parenting in most people's mind, if you're not super strict, that obviously means you let your kid run wild and do whatever they want. No, there's a happy middle ground where you love and support your child, provide them the skills to be independent while not constantly pressuring them to live up to excessive standards, or have a very specific career - that's just a recipe for rebellion/disaster.

If she was under 18 I would understand because it’s hard for her to leave but she is 24, there is no sympathy because she easily could’ve left and actually got her life together

the detective said that hes done this a 1000 times

It is crazy. It makes me want to be one so I can more easily tell when someone is lying

The body says what the mouth doesn’t. Most ppl cant read body language too too well

The detective was probably that one quiet kid in school thats why he understood body language accurately

They will also study the tapes multiple times and study each detail

It’s not that hard to see she’s lying about absolutely everything. In fact,it’s really obvious.

Practise and learn from case studies, like alot of them. Then through repetition, it is basically second nature. Experience also helps

@SuperTramp lmaooo the fake crying was too funny yo

I never even thought of that because I got so used to JCS pausing and dissecting it

@moodymawy That's still pretty crazy though haha

They should really earn a degree in psychology, I’m not saying she is not guilty but I can see someone innocent react the same way.
Afraid of being falsely accused, feeling pressured to just say you did it so you can rest…it’s mentally exhausting

Studying Psychology a lot can give you abilities to see bullshit from a mile away with just couple of words, yeah, even on internet we can apply that, anywhere qe can apply it, very useful tool tbh.

Amazing

meh they've obviously trained for it, not to mention its their job they probably recognize the patterns pretty easily with that amount of practice.

Its pretty obvious lol

@Michelle M At this point she should be so overwrought from the event that it shouldn't be on an average person's mind that they might be accused. She's thinking too hard about things that a person who lived this wouldn't.

Just don’t talk lawyer up lol pretty simple

It’s not that crazy, you’re just slow

There's other detectives watching the camera's, dummy.

No not really, it’s common sense which unfortunately doesn’t seem very common anymore.

They are professionals, they don't get any normal joe to do these.

@Big Iron in real time :D

They are behavioral analysis not detectives when interrogating someone it’s very different.

@Big Iron well it is crazy, but they'd of course be qualified. doesn't make it any less impressive lol

He didn't notice a good chunk of it like JCS is describing it, or atleast wouldn't be able to articulate it in his manner, what he did sense you can easily see and describe in layman's terms, the fake crying, the monotone aliby etc

They do this daily, also they don't show you the bad takes :)

@I'm not sorry for being anti romantic He was probably abused at home, and learned to read body language as a vital self-defense technique.

Because they are good detectives. Do u think all the detectives are like those? Some dont even care.

It's pretty easy to detect, it's harder to work around it. I'd love to learn the skill

That and also the interview are recorded

@Valerie Rose i always have the feeling that its a gift and a curse thing. just imagine youre so good that you can see through every persons "facade" (i dont know how to call it). i think sometimes its nice to not know and instead just see the superficial.

@SuperTramp with a narrator telling you what to see and look for sure. You wouldnt have noticed any of this without a professional teling you

@SuperTramp huh?

They do not. They don't need to, because those responses are less important than the discrepancies in the story and it's way easier to notice all of this on the footage, with the benefit of hindsight.

I think interrogators have to complete certain courses in criminal psychology, criminal profiling and other psychological education during their police training.

@Valerie Rose Good thinking but I hope you’re not thinking it will help you in your relationships with men! Lol

@Hekima Asilia no. I don’t have relationships with men

Could the detectives use this type of method to persuade someone who is innocent to plead guilty!!!

Yea i need jcs to point them out for me lol

@Michelle M If you think innocent people react the same way, you clearly have not been watching.

@Rage against The mainstream You are correct unfortunately.

not all detectives are this good

@Michelle M I can see some reactions at the end be the same as someone innocent but the majority of the interrogation in the beginning I would say no.

She actually thought that the detective was on her side? So naive. She should have gotten an attorney right away

It must be easier. Actually, the camera kinda hides them.

Is their job. They are trained for that.

They also notice things after, that’s why it is being recorded

They have done it so many times, it's like reading. After a while, you don't have to sound out the individual letters to read the words. You just know the words.

exactly how i feel

She did it for insurance money.

i want to empathise with her but she did have a way out. They gave her the option to cut ties and be with her boyfriend, but she didn't want to have to work, she wanted the insurance or inheritance.

@You Tried it ahh that makes sense. It's always about the coin

They gave her the option of disowning her, which is quite extreme and hints at the behavior of the parents over the years. Disowning is not just leaving, it is cutting every tie with your family forever. And in the asian community, they MEAN IT.

Agreed

He's actually my Uncle , his last name is Ventura . First name Ace , and he was a hell of man in his field .

@Jake Bevins I'm going to choose to believe you.

If so that's pretty cool!

@DazzlingPotatoes Google him

@Jake Bevins omg you were joking 😭 sorry but I've never heard of that movie before. Otherwise I wouldn't have made a fool of myself like that .. lol

@DazzlingPotatoes all good , definitely check that movie out tho!! Super funny

This reply section could have been some reddit guy sayin R/wOoOoOsH but there was instead a wholesome ending

what are you talking about?

@prob dp if she gets a lawyer, she doesn’t fuck up her story

Just like Chris Watts. They are free to go the whole time and never even lawyer up. It's mind boggling.

Exactly. People need to understand their rights, guilty or not

It's really highly trained profession, most of these detectives have at least some background in psychology

I nearly spat out my coffee at this. So unexpexted! :D

1:27:23 time stamp :)

Truth verification ——aka —- Ya lie!

@Suhani Kumar You are a hero

I know right!!! 🙈🙈

TOOT TOOOOOOT

If you’re Guilty or Innocent- witness or suspect - The only thing to EVER say to an investigator is - I’d like to have a LAWYER here before I answer ANY questions!

solid comeback

his&her

Damnit, I wish I didn't look at the comments right now @ just over two mins in.

Yes, but she wouldn't get any insurance money or any inheritance from her parents. Her parents seem to have done well for themselves (drove a Mercedes and Lexus), she wanted that wealth.

I am sure she and her drug dealer boyfriend were conspiring to steal her parents fortune. Spend it all on drugs probably.

Afterall, if all she wanted to do was get away and be with her boyfriend, she was allowed to do that. She would just lose access to her parents money. No, what she and her boyfriend really wanted, was cash.

@Dev Dixit is right, she wanted their money and to be fully independent from their parents.

Do you know any channel that makes a good job at analyzing crime, similar to JSC?

@Ada Agreste Check out Matt Orchard he comes really close and then there is RedTreeCrime but it lacks the break down strategy of the JCS format

@Ada Agreste MattOrchard is your best option at this point lol really wish there were more videos

But the cops lie to you easy & often...

@The Guide & The Judge and with a free conscience..with a specific intention to bring the truth into existence.. 🍎 and 🍊..

You didn’t learn that you should never talk to cops?

Literally best content on YouTube

Agreed.

Damn right.

this guy is SO dedicated 👍

it’s informative, straight to the point and still entertaining

I put everyone onto this page. They should honestly pay me for advertising

@CataclysmicDuck Dude same, where do you go?

This is amazing content but Tread was pretty damn good.

🎯💯

Yeah the videos are great. The footage is awesome. The guys voice is not annoying like other videos.

I agree ✔️

Couldn’t fucking agree more handsome down the best documentary work I’ve ever seen

Yeah... until you subscribe to Patreon and get no new content.

Good thing we have police.

Fax

@Baron Yam
Damn good Police and Detectives

Running Bear yup Ik that’s right.

I literally cannot watch 90% of the netflix documentries because they are just drawn out shit

@Fernando Anzola what's handsome down?

D S goddamn autocorrect lol

Absolutely fascinating!!

Absolutely fascinating!!

Straight to the point, no unnecessary editing, easy to understand and extremely entertaining

@Dexfalt fax what

@james1 just basically means facts

Does anyone know any good channels like this? They're hard to find

True,netflix is shit and corrupt

Agree

@LuLu * Amen

100%! Kept my interest from start to finish.

@conch . You sub to patreon to support the creator, im assuming that they probably cant monetize these type of videos or something

You get free internet?

They would call you a freeloader. I am with you.

I don't think nothing really beats the Gabriel Fernandez case documentary on Netflix. But I agree, this is fantastic content

One of the few channels that actually deserve ad breaks

Actually The Devil Next Door and Night Stalker are great imo

@Dion Roberts ppw

cuz its real raw footage

It's not free. You're paying for Internet and electricity

I 💯 agree!

No excess dramatisation, no bullshit. Straight content.

Agreed

Everything on Netflix is biased to make you believe one way or another about a crime, like "Here's a totally innocent man who was falsely accused because of this piece of evidence taken out of context with all the other evidence."

This is better because it's just, "Here's the investigation and why the detectives came to the conclusion that they did."

I mean technically nothing is free

Netflix shit is way too dramatic and drags.

💯✔️✔️✔️

@Patrick Star you will when you get older

YUP

Absolutely!

Netflix gonna sue this channel for robbing them of this documentary. Lol

@Dasdough The Internet and electricity is not free but the content is and could easily be obtained at a public library.

And it's real..

God send

@J W yes 👏

Not all of them. Making a Murderer is fantastic, Tiger King as well

Ikr

same, this channel is a f*cking blessing.

Facts

ye.

Netflix crime docus are full of unnecessary drone shots and overly dramatic editing

@Shuichi Akai yea always the amarican ones

👍

@Justin Anderson how selfless of you

Its better cuz its real

Why “literally”?!?!!

Yes right? Its awesome

Agreed

preach

Agreed

💯

@LuLu * aa

Indeed! Absolutely amazing stuff at full on movie length!

I would say it's better than most except Making A Murderer. that was one of the best documentaries I've seen to datd

I do love JCS but that might be a tad overstated. Netflix actually has a fairly decent library of docs. (I’d recommend starting with content not actually produced by Netflix. ;) )

I can wait till JCS makes some more content bc these other knockoff channels aren’t cutting it

How do we get Netflix in contact with him to make a show?

It costs your soul. They just stopped making content

you are seriously kidding aren't you?

I was just thinking that too

Literally

Better than a book!❤❤❤

Chewy, chewy, chewy.... it’s not free. You pay for internet access, don’t you?

I agree about the content…but man the commercials are getting outrageous.

Not fee anymore with the State of YT and how many ads you need to sit through.
Gotta pay for YT premium these days.

Well unless u have yt premium

Its not free we have to watch crap ads

@Jimi Baked Ungrateful

It helps when the man who is making this content actually has a degree in criminal psychology and knows what he's talking about.

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@Jimi Baked stop swearing

Agreed. Netflix Docs are the equivalent to 90s shock jock radio to me. Lol.

Uuuu lord jesus .....yesss!!🥰😊🙌

I'm still waiting for the next season of Mind Hunter to come out.. but this is pretty darn good !

Far from free, JCS pays in blood, sweat, and tears.

Chefs kiss

Still getting likes on this comment till this day😂.

Yeah jcs your definitely on a production type level.

Until youtube removes it, like all its videos of last year

YouTube is not "free".

ikr

Totally agree

R.I.P. JCS

@Free Rights A & E Crime
Or investigation criminal

And it all going to get taken down by YouTube soon

Until YouTube censors them :( rip JCS

Fr

For sure!

100 percent agree on this one

True, no emotional and suspense background music and unescesaary landscape/cityscape shots.

literally better then 99% of trash hollywood movies made lately

Not for much longer. Only 4 videos left.

@Dion Roberts By a wide margin.

@Enomwoyi Kunde he could literally make bank if he decided to put a pay wall behind his videos

It's not free. You pay for it by having your information sold to marketing companies. You also pay for it with the loss of time in your life spent staring at your phone hypnotized by the algorithm.

This is clear - do not commit a crime in a country where the predominant language is not your native language - and if you are arrested for a crime you didn’t commit where this is the case - god help you.

Now people will say - she grew up in Canada so how can English not be her native language - like most children of immigrants - they do not start speaking English regularly until they are forced to in school - those formative years are all in the parent’s native language - I’m guessing this girl thinks in Vietnamese - and for those who say - you don’t think in a language - we all think in a language.

@Dion Roberts is

Ok I

@Blackfeet it’s free in terms of monetary requirement. You exchange your time and attention directed at advertising for the content. But unless you pay for premium like i do the videos are still free.
Everything that happens in life has some abstract form of an exchange even if its still free

Bot

this is not free. youtube paid the creator for this

And before anyone tries to say, Oh, you agree with what she did, no. I am able to objectively analyse and also consider my own similar experiences throughout most of my life, and add another perspective which people can either consider, or ignore. I have spent decades researching Psychopathy, Narcissistic Personality Disorder and have watched more of this sort of thing than I can even put a number on, as it is an interest and I have Asperger's and so want to understand human behaviour, especially in those who are not neurotypical or who do things that are far removed from anything I could ever conceive of.

I have watched interviews with the most repulsive and cunning individuals and been horrified at their complete lack of any emotion of any kind and who I could barely even look at. Calculated individuals.

@The Autistic Songbird Graelwyn do you like younger men? you’re beautiful

@LandoBrah down horrifically

@Comrade Dumkov ? huh? what huh? huh what what huh?

And she did it all of that because she was abused and psychologically tortured for her entire life. Her parents just got exactly what they brought up. In the end, they suffered for their own actions. Maybe they just didn't know any better. Let this be a reminder to all the other parents not to make the same mistake and to treat their children with respect and dignity.

@Andy Vokurka I agree with you regarding putting too much pressure on her

Yeah this is tough.
I pity her and I understand how trapped she felt.
But the fact she hired hit men and more is just horrible.

The fact that she swaps from “I wanted to die so bad that I hired people to come kill me in my own home” to “am I gonna be okay what’s gonna happen to me” so quickly, immediately invalidating her statements.

@Tadgh o brien Not justifying her actions at all here, but maybe we should chill with the charged language like "pure evil" when thinking about some of these cases...

@Saito Dosan yeah I agree actually, like as messed up as this still was we are talking about an abused kid snapping and making a terrible choice not, like, Jeffrey Dahmer or Rodney Alcala. Probably wise to mediate the language a little.

Blaming her is like blaming the fruit from a poisoned tree.

No because they found dna plus the text messages between her and her boyfriend...... she woulda never got away with it

@Menibor1 That, plus the fact they had a witness. Thank the good Lord her dad lived through being shot twice and was able to give testimony and tell authorities what actually happened.

Yea it’s horrifying to listen to

@E Kamińska that is true it’s just when you hear the screams of another person to me at least it’s so overwhelming

What flung a red flag for me was her saying I'm tied upstairs and that just didn't make sense

She could of stopped it. But she was more worried about protecting her image and looking innocent. Messed up.

@Ragnarill except she did end up with a drug dealer lol...

@joe schlo LMAOO nah real shit 😭

@E Kamińska hey my dad was a verbally abusive narcissist who was an addict and I couldn't even dream of saying or thinking that if he was dying downstairs. Just because he's not "innocent either" doesn't make an excuse for murder

@Ashley Lawhorn could've*

Wow it gave me the shivers too.

@joe schlo not a causal relationship, her parents are innocent

So horrifying

@E Kamińska Your parents should watch out lol

I’m so glad the dad survived and was able to tell the police his daughter was involved. If not for the dads testimony I don’t think it would have been so easy to get her to admit her guilt

@Jes good for you. If my dad was like yours, i wouldn't care too much if he died. Even so, i wouldn't kill him nor tell somebody to do it, so i see your point.

@Garrit A. your worse than me.

H I S

She is pure evil

You reap what you sow

@Riiian Ponciatti
CD

Ya that fucked me up a bit.

To be fair, we don't how her parents treated her, you don't know what you would've done in her position. But that doesn't change the fact that she is a criminal, and should therefore be punished as a criminal.

evil

Yeah, that was terrible! Very upsetting.

It's stuck in my memory right now.

her dad not his

100%

Yes, absolutely. I had a terrible childhood and that affected me in many ways. It was mostly psychological abuse. I often tell people although I love my parents, I believe they should not have had kids. I decided at 27 to get a vasectomy and not have kids myself. I truly debated whether I could be a good father. In good conscience I could run the risk of repeating my parent's mistake. Yes, it sounds extreme, but erroring on the side of caution is better for me.

100% agree with you. I had a traumatic adolescence and my parents were definitely not prepared to raise an independent human being, they only projected their own unresolved issues onto me. Unstable people shouldn't have kids if they can't raise them in a healthy way

bad parenting has nothing to do with jen's assassination, only insurance money does. her parents were rich enough that killing them would lead to never needing to work again.

for her and her boyfriend

Ikr. Also, murder aside, everything about Jennifer tells me she is naturally a cold and unfeeling person with few morals. I’m not seeing a good person trapped by circumstances here, or someone who deserves sympathy. These people in the comments are probably projecting. Everyone loves to blame parents for everything nowadays, accountability seems to have dropped by the wayside.

Your so right... good catch! She's evil!

@Shannon Feathers classic Freudian slip...

hehe DEAD giveaway, lol

Good call

@Tj Druid I'm going to hell for laughing at that 😭😭

I caught that too. But it could also be just her natural way of speaking. Kinda like how you might refer to someone as “a guy” or “a dude”, whereas she says “a gentleman”. That’s possibly just how she was raised to speak.

But I won’t deny it’s a bit suspicious, even if it is her natural way of speaking. Because it wasn’t just any man, it was the person who had just killed her mom and left her dad damn near dead.

Bit of a Freudian slip during the 911 call when she mentioned the money. Even if I hated my parents, I doubt I'd mention money if both were shot and I was at risk of being killed.

timestamp ? could not find the exact time

@Dan Freedom around 10:00

lmao

@Jesse Lee thank u. that’s a real hint unless she got a weird sense of humor in that situation.

@Dan Freedom She's canadian though

@Tj Druid cringe

I know right, i was so shocked i laughed

@southofheck Your last sentence is important. It wasnt just a random man she mentioned, she mentined the murderer of her mom. Very strange to even think of the word Gentleman in this situation.

I literally came down the comments to see who said something about that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Gentlemen she recons

ikr

@Tj Druid 😐

I've watched videos on this case 3 times and never caught that. I can't be a detective 🤣

Yeah that was odd language lol

@HandlelessTML You're not the only one 🤣. Sometimes I am amazed at the things viewers catch and it makes me question myself on how I missed it.

I would suck being an investigator, I never picked up on that.

Asians are very polite (I thought the same thing)

I refer to rude customers as gentlemen as well. To be honest it's not so surprising. Southern people do sometimes

how is that a giveaway?

@The Conscious Entrepreneurs if I have to explain it, you obviously wouldn’t make a good investigator lmaoooo

Lol. She def wasn't the smartest tool in the shed. Been thinking for a while about the whole "why would they let her live after killing her parents and after having her see their faces" thing for quite a while now. The whole thing is pretty tragic when you boil it all down...

i was like GENTLEMEN???? SIST UR ON YOUR RIGHT MIND RN???? A MURDER? U CALLED A MURDER "GENTLEMEN" ????

also how she said main floor, instead of the first/bottom floor. it makes it sound like she was apart of the plan

I was thinking of that too , it’s sad

@Tj Druid hah good one

Exactly what I thought when I heard that.

You need some respect when addressing your friends, silly!

Yes I caught that too I was like ummmm..... Excuse me what?

It's good that the youtube comments aren't the interrogators. No one would ever be convinced.

@Tj Druid I see what you did there. 😂

@southofheck i don’t think it was that tho cause in 26:09 she says guy so its definitely not a substitute for another word

I mean considering her mental state and how much of a cruel tyrant her parents are in her eyes, it must felt like a relieve to her. Her actions are understandable considering her condition, although still nowhere even near justified.

@Pumpkin Pi seeing her relationships with a drug dealer and so on...everybody her is a gentleman or lady i guess, just saying

ikr everything but gentle men

@Square Tom Memes ur deduction abilities are subpar...

@Zerek Blackford I mean yeah I'm obviously wrong, I'm just pointing out that the contradiction can be easily cleared given her background. The rest of her testimony obviously can't be.

@Square Tom Memes no, she had a Freudian slip by calling people that murdered her mom & tried to kill her dad, gentleman. She was born in Canada and English was her main language, regardless if her family was Vietnamese, she is well aware of connotations of words and it slipped through her unconscious. No one who spoke English would call someone who killed their mom gentlemen unless they were envious or part of the plot. Sorry for being abrasive but this is barely subjective. She had a Freudian slip, if you aren’t familiar with the concept I suggest you do some research.

@Zerek Blackford I researched it and you're correct. I'll admit it I was completely mistaken on my part. Thanks for clearing it up concisely instead of devolving into a standard YouTube argument. Really rare thing these days.

@Bane
But money is the most important thing in the US cause they are capitalists. They would totally mention that.
Oh wait, thats canada. So yeah in this case mentioning the money was a mistake.

Could have been a language issue IMO. Sure she lived in the US but her parents were Vietnamiese and most likely not native English speakers, and that who she learned most of the language from.

Yep

@Shannon Feathers her parents be evil

You’d hope, but I see people calling criminal thugs “gentlemen” regularly. Neighbors being interviewed about a crime and newscasters do it all the time. I wouldn’t expect a father of a victim to do it, but I can see a girl like this doing it.

Lol, not really, she is a Canadian!

Who the heck uses gentle man dude?

@Dan Freedom bjka

And mocking her dad's cries for help

well it could be just how she was raised, kids all the time me included are raised to treat people and call people gentlemen etc etc like she did. but that is a little off

As someone raised to call every adult “sir/ ma'am”, it’s natural to refer a male as “gentleman”. BUT, my logic would make me rephrase to something mush harsh such as punk or dude.

Also when she is describing her father being attacked she also adds how she heard the sound of the wind outside. Like how could u even notice the wind outside at a time like that!?

this was likely a calculated attempt at indirectly saying "look im a good girl i refer to people as gentlemen and lady"
shes just a terrible actor so everything comes off super cringe and insincere

@southofheck Point

Stfu??

@Griff Yes I would imagine murders act like they want to get away with murder because they want to get away with murder.

@bishhsasspusi So murder doesn't ruin a person's life?

@Griff
I'd think nothing is as important as what you do before/during the crime. Not doing it would be number one, lol. Ask the family, they wouldn't want the crime committed to begin with.
You really think they don't want to get away with it? smdh. Why then don't the criminals just stay and wait for the police to show up? If you're truly guilty, the best thing you could do for yourself is to ask for an attorney.
You're thinking like a person with morals, not a psychopath, sociopath, corrupt person, etc. We wouldn't ever be in this situation, so to us, confessing so readily seems like the logical next step, not to them.
Yes, for the victims, the best thing they could do would be to confess, but that doesn't happen very often. Even when the evidence is overwhelming, rarely does the guilty party confess during their first interrogation. It sure would be great though, lol.

Yes, but what I wouldn't give to keep him from saying "okay?" 9,000 times. It's better not to say that because it's a question, rather than a statement. I knew better than to do that when raising my kids.

Learned this from Wolf of Wall Street

Ikr. If she had atleast stopped talking when the first was almost over and detective went out. But no....she was so stupid to actually said how he had scared her and then she continued her "suicide"

yepp real life aint a movie

Or he's bored and tired of staying overtime

Lmao!!! Sorry, this comment was hilarious!

@alabama joe Same if wrongly accused or questioned as a witness.

my dad used to apply this technique on me when i was a child so he could find out if i was lying to him lol
It really works

You also gotta think about it, she probably is saying a lot because she obviously wants to make it seem like she wants justice for her parents since she’s playing victim. She just said unnecessary information lol

This also applies when you play Among Us

yesss people tend to talk more when there is less response

It's also the best thing to keep your mouth shut, even if you're innocent.

It really does work, in most situations actually. I used his approach to get a better deal on a car during price negotiation. 😂

hoy don't teach the bad people how to lie

@Thejoyfulhound you so innocent bro

Can confirm. Had a mate who used to steal cars when he was about 16 and had been arrested several times. He was allowed copies of the interview cassette tapes. Acting on his solicitors advice, he answered every single one of the cop’s questions with the words “no comment”

I like the interrogators of Stephen Mcdaniel best

@Czech Chicklet what has corruption to do with being a sociopath/psychopath lol?

No, especially if you're innocent, don't talk to the cops and get a lawyer. Chances are you'll end up incriminating yourself.

the pause technique

How about leave or ask for an attorney. Don’t talk to Cops they’re not always looking for justice

better call saul

"It's not your fault" ~ Robin Williams

can you ask for a lawyer when the investigator ask you questions, or does that makes you seem like the murderer?

@Eric Santos You can... it's your right... Don't talk until your lawyer is there... It doesn't matter if they think you are guilty or not .. the only thing that matter are proofs

Exactly

Don’t give them tips!

Saying less and extending silence is also a negotiation tactic for after you name a price offer

this

Lmao legit don't even chat to cops unless your lawyer is there innocent or not

Right I was like she talking way to much she have the right not to say no more

Or just say "Yes" "No" and "I don't know"

@Cri Os nope they can still twist it against you

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@Cornell Adyas Brown is sus

💯

@Jojo agreed and great name! Haha

@Violet Joy He's Canadian. Up here everything is always phrased as a question instead of a statement. :P

@Natalie Reed Interesting. Well, that doesn't work so well when questioning a suspect. Lol.

Not always true. Remaining silent can lead to the prosecution saying you have no remorse or guilt and can say that you are hiding the truth lol.

I keep watching these videos and totally understand if you get put into one of these rooms... the only thing you should be saying is " i want to talk to a lawyer.' Jennifer Pan totally is guilty and culpable for her crime that much is true and I'm not asking for her to have gotten off or whatever, just objectively, I do see that police interrogators are amazing effective at their jobs. If you don't know your rights, you will get run over, and your right to remain silent will get over run.

@polepino 👍

Idk I kinda of lost it when he brought up the satellites. Like no sir. U don't have access to that lol I would have laughed at him and asked for a lawyer

Literally… u have the right to remain silent, so shut up! Lol

It was two detectives

Lol

What a strange way to write a sentence, it made my brain shit itself

“Wait St. Peter! I have to make sure our daughter knows she’s a loser. My wife would agree with me if she hadn’t just been murdered by our daughter.”

"gentle men"

@maria joseph “gentle”

@Eunice. ISTG--

Yeah, but not for the reason you think. Her wording is obvious, there was an underlying element there hiding in plain sight that was more damning than the words she used. I doubt the detective even noticed.

The first red flag I spotted too lol

As if to say, "Yeah, these guys are murderers but... you know... they're not that bad once you know 'em."

At the time of me giving your comment a thumbs up, it had 666 likes 😯

@Josh Haugland idk at 8:09 she gives it away that she knows the murderers

Nope. Her mom encouraged her to be successful and pushed her to have a good career. Jennifer had a choice to choose between her family and Daniel. She could’ve chose Daniel if she wanted to be with him so bad instead of murdering her mother

"he drives a Mercedes and he loves that baby" just feels. off. like even if peoples speech patterns change when stressed that was a little too offhand
also gentlemen is a funny juxtaposition but its also a giveaway because you use that to typically refer to like, polite strangers. using it seems like shes purposefully trying to distance herself from them by sounding formal, but she actually made herself sound way more familiar with them.

@Eunice. wait. What's the big deal about the dislikes. I get that it's a negative because it allows for some limited expression.

But like. Does it really matter all that much? I already know I won't like this video without seeing the dislike bar.

@That Dude Over There One huge reason the like/dislike ratio is important is to tell how deceptive or much validity the video has. For example: if someone uploads a DIY video about something carpentry-related and they’re totally full of shit, the ratio can be a pretty good indicator to not take it seriously.

There’s also a lot of fuckery that the ratio can help identify when it comes to history-related videos as well: when I was looking into the death of Dale Earnhardt, I watched a video that showed his crash, then the aftermath, then him waving to everyone in the crowd to show that he was okay, then cut to the ambulance driving to the hospital, followed by the announcement of his death. I was about to move on from the video when I noticed the ratio and was puzzled so I looked at the comments for an explanation. As it turns out, Dale was pretty much annihilated right after the crash; he did not (could not) wave to the crowd to let everyone know he was alright. The uploader had edited in a clip of him waving to onlookers from an earlier incident as a sick joke.

If it weren’t for the ratio and then comments, I wouldn’t’ve spotted the deception. So for me, the ratio is less about expression and more about the utility it serves. Hope that helps 🙂

@shadowstalker1515 fair enough I suppose. Just cause I've never found use doesn't mean others don't, yeah.

@Ruby Ramirez And yet her mom didn't encourage her to make mistakes which are the bedrock of a successful future and career, instead she enforced her to be infallible which is something no human can do and be successfully.
Not defending Jennifer's actions though.

@That Dude Over There its important for videos like advice or help or tips or.reviews or anything of that matter because it could be horrible information and the like to dislike ratio can prevent you from wasting your time

@Moatasem Kassab She didn’t need to lie to her parents. My parents were similar to hers. There were times when I’ve got beat very badly probably worse than what Jen has ever gotten. Jennifer murdered her family over her dusty bf when she could’ve gotten a new, better bf

@Victoria Ferguson well observed

@shadowstalker1515 perfect explanation of why dislikes are needed!

@inMotionGaming what do you mean? I went back and listened and have no idea what you're referring to.

@Max Lennon 10:07

@K T do you think that's actually what they meant when they timestamped it 8:09?

@Ruby RamirezYou reply is an example of what a hasty generalization is.

I think she kinda gave it away when she said "I heard voices that i'm not very familiar with…" so what do you mean, you are slightly familiar with these voices? I don't know that seemed odd to me.

@Brutal Chop You have to keep in mind this took place in 🇨🇦, therefore you can just about be 100% sure all 3 suspects kindly and politely removed their shoes when making entry to the home as a courtesy as to not dirty the victims' carpet, persistently inquired if their bindings were too tight, apologized before and after pulling the trigger, then making sure to lock and close the door upon leaving to head to Tim Hortons for large coffees and maple flavored doughnuts purchased with the stolen currency from polite, yet evil and twisted robbery/murder they just committed

@Max Lennon I think that comment was referring to when she said "I thought I heard THEM all leave the top floor" (indicating that she knew who 'them' was) OR right before the timestamp, when she said "voices I'm not VERY familiar with" (indicating some sort of familiarity). But I'm not sure, I was just looking for the gentlemen comment too

I cought that too.

@RandomTimes GamesN'Stuff No? then we still have a problem

and a knife!

@RandomTimes GamesN'Stuff Gentelmentelmen

That's what I thought too

What part did she call them gentlemen

🚩🚩🚩 flags were flown

No doubt anyone that murdered my parents will be called anything but a damn gentle.. man..

@That Dude Over There yes! People watch all sorts of tutorials to learn all sorts of stuff, Youtube is a great place for that. Until you're learning to fix your chainsaw and you get a shitty video and mess up and lose your face. Sure, people would leave comments as well.
Sure, im being dramatic.
But Youtube is enormous and its decisions make a big difference in the world.

@RandomTimes GamesN'Stuff No? Zen we still have a problem...*thwump*

Not only I respect your opinion, I agree with you

Not really its takes them hours.

Yes.. I’m on ur side and u’re right! I was in the same situation when I was 21.. but worse than her situation.. So after years of physical abuse I got the guts to run away from home. I knew after awhile parents will always forgive and forget for leaving home. I went to stay with my boyfriend’s house who became my husband 1 year later. 3 months later I was allowed to visit my parents and ever since we’ve been very close. My dad owned a gun and even though it never ever crossed my mind to use it on my parents as a solution to the issues at home.. so I have hard time comprehend her mind, where or how did she get the guts to do such a horror thing? it will always bother me!!

@Lollie I'm sorry for you, but I'm also glad and proud that it all turned out ok in the end

And when you realise he's screaming help to the 911 operator to save him from his daughter.

Maybe stop with the "strict regime" shit, and this won't happen?

It comes full circle lmao

@Aaron Taofitau are you. are you trying to justify what she did????

@Aaron Taofitau So having a strict parenting style is a death sentence now?

@Aaron Taofitau full circle would be her eventually going to her own personalized version of hell.

@Aaron Taofitau Dude...different people do things differently. That's no reason for a staged home invasion and murder. Also, I don't think being strict has anything to do with this. Strict to a kid could be simple house rules to someone else. She was lying about a lot already and dating a drug dealer. Still shocking that it went this far, but behavior patterns are a thing.

I wonder now with his wife dead and his daughter in jail if he regrets trying to get a success story out of her.

@ARMY & Exo-L & NCTzen he dont

@Perplex Mantis well it happened vefore she killed so yes sir

@Aaron Taofitau EXACTLY. THE PARENTS JUST AS GUILTY.

@Falloutstories yeah he sounds like he is trying to defend her lmao.

@Perplex Mantis not a sentence, just a dice roll

Its not justified what she did, but his shitty parenting still led to it.

@Perplex Mantis It's easy to be ignorant to abuse and to just call it a "strict parenting style" when she ends up killing her parents. Abuse in childhood changes you as a person in a lot of ways for the worst. It's obvious why she did it, it wasn't because she is just an evil antagonist that does terrible shit because its terrible, it's because she was practically encouraged to become this way. You're told by your family that family comes first, yet they're so willing to throw you to the side and use you as a puppet for their own pleasure. This isn't just a single incident they're guilty of, this is a repeated pattern that fucked her childhood and continued to ruin her life in adulthood. It's a result of using your fucking child until they snap.

If she didn't make the mistake of lashing out, this would be viewed as abuse by everyone. She would be a victim and her father would be seen as worthless. He would just be a manipulator, valued as a person who just uses their own children. Everything she did in terms of living a double life is justified in the face of her parents that assign value to her accomplishments rather than her happiness. When surrounded by poor-quality people, you're not even left with a shoulder to lean on even once. In the end, she made a single mistake that changed everything.

She still should be imprisoned for this, there is no justice in killing your family for this, but could everyone just please get off of their fucking pedestal. Going through that for your entire childhood + 6 years of adulthood is hell. I doubt any critics in the comments would have done better. Rather than recognize that child abuse inevitably leads many down this path and wishing it would be fixed, people here would rather call this a strict parenting style instead. Take tips from this girl's father and you'll never see your child after 18, end up with a dead child, or end up the same way as her father.

@Aaron Taofitau ehh I don't care if the parents whipped her, there's no excuse for a well calculated unprovoked murder like that.

@Aaron Taofitau dude that doesn’t justify what she has done.You can’t excuse murder for having strict parents she legit had an option to be free.

When we see serial killers, psychopaths, or in general people capable of killing other people (including relatives) cold-blooded, almost every time we see someone who's really been traumatized in their childhood. Noone justifies their crimes, 'tho we can understand what's behind those people.

@Edoardo yet you failed to mention the drug addicted boyfriend. Pretty sure she was on it too.

@Perplex Mantis it sounded more like abuse rather than stric parenting tho. I am not justifying Jennifer but kids usually resemble their parents.

If I ever told my kids that I would be willing to disown them, I already know which one would flip out and lose it. The other would self destruct.

I no longer fear the ones that look dangerous, most of that is just a fear induced act .... I fear the ones that look sweet and innocent, and more sweet and innocent with a quiet persona, the more I fear them.

@Falloutstories learn how to spell bud... and they asked for it XD

time stamp?

@Clamfaced I dont think he connected the dots at that point, he probably did in hospital since they were interviewing him specifically about his daughters involvement

@f g seriously though who brings a child into life only to tell them everything they do is not making you fully happy. How bout you make your f—n kids happy then you’ll be happy

john 3:16 for god so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life

@Aaron Taofitau she was given a choice wich was either stay with your boyfriend and be disowned or come home and go to school. she chose the second option but then probebly regretted it and then instead of leaving and never coming back she decided to plan a murder. This couldve ended without bloodshed if she had choosen to be disowned in the first place becaus wether she was disowned by her parents or killed her parents she wouldnt have any parents in the end.

She went through alot but that isnt a justification for murder.

@Perplex Mantis Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

@Ouma Shu she would still have her family, minus some shitty parents. That's what I think made her do it, not losing the whole family, and she can do what she wants. If she got disowned the parents would make the family hate her for sure.

@Blue Claws You don't have to be on one side or the other. You can condemn everyone in this story. She did something unforgivable, but so did her parents. That doesn't justify what she did, but nothing justifies her parents actions either.

@f g
It's all a bunch of greys, tbh.

It just so happened the parents were of a dark-grey, while the daughter, near-black grey.

@ARMY & Exo-L & NCTzen the intentions were certainly good, but the actions weren't the most ideal. Every good parent wants a good life of wealth and happiness for their children, how each one deals with it is another thing

@Aaron Taofitau not saying murder is justified but when you place all these expectations on a girl from a young age and then when you find out she isnt perfect you decide to strip her of her agency she is gonna snap

@Saul MS Sure, the expectations might've been a bit too much. But the 2 choices the parents give her make sense. They just found out that she dropped out of high-school, completely faked going to college and is the girlfriend of a drug dealer. I'm sure any good parent would want to help their kids. They even gave her 2 options, stay with her drug dealer boyfriend and all ties cut from her family, since that would mean she obviously doesn't want any help from them, or live at their house, cut off her boyfriend, have a strict schedule and try to get your education back on track. She instead chose neither and plotted the murder of both of them. Big expectations aren't any reason to murder someone. Normal people would just cut contact from bad parents, but no, she decided to plan, hire and arrange for people to stage a break in so she could have her parents murdered.

@Nico Obregón When you isolate and mentally abuse someone from age 0 to age 25 (approximately) you don't act surprise when they go all crazy. He didn't deserved to be shot in his cave of course, but she didn't deserved to be treated like that for 25 years.

@Falloutstories And you're trying to justify children abuse, wich is pretty trash too, so don't make lessons when you're trying to justify locking someone out of a social life for 25 years as beeing home rules, god I hope you don't have childrens or their life must be miserable

@MrGuana141 I agree that she didn't deserved to be treated that way but what she did to her parents isn't justificable. Her mother died and her father ended up severely injured. She planned all of that and even tho i understand she lived a sad life i can't sympathize with her at all. She's a murderer

ik i was just about to say this. it’s really disturbing to hear

@Mars You're saying a strict parenting style is unjustifiable? What is wrong with you? Besides, we don't know for sure they really WERE that strict. All we have to go on is her word, which seems pretty damn worthless in my opinion. All the daughter had to do was NOT lie about who she is and put some damn effort into college! That's not strict! That's called growing up. Granted, not everybody truly does mature emotionally and intellectually.

@Aaron Taofitau bruh i got authoritarian parents but would NEVER do what she did, thats a whole new level of sick

@Angie Byrd To what level? I was physically and mentally abused from the age of 12 to the age 18 when I got kicked out. I'm now at the age of 20 where I will never see my parents again. Although I'm a lot better mentally, there have been many times where I've wished death on my abusive father. There were moments I prayed he would encounter an accident that would free my family from his burdening. I have had a few moments of near-suicide. Knowing I would have to endure hardship for years to come becoming nearly homeless, I could have very much snapped at the shitty cards I was dealt and reasonably could have fucked up my entire life.

I think given she had to endure this until she was 25, this was actually a normal reaction. That doesn't mean its a justified reaction, just that when you put someone through this for 25 years, most people would end up doing things of similar severity. If she wasn't going to hurt her parents, it probably was going to just end in her suicide to be frank.

I think just because you didn't do anything, it doesn't mean that you would represent the aggregate. All child abuse is child abuse to me, but there are different severities to it. Just because you wouldn't consider it, doesn't mean the majority of other people would do the same thing. Perhaps your authoritarian parents weren't as abusive, perhaps they didn't do it for as long in your life, maybe you had a mentor to look up to, maybe you were just stronger as a person. Everyone has their story, and yours ended better. The only reason my own ended well is because someone else took me in when I got kicked out. If I just ended up homeless, I would have either killed myself or my father. A very normal reaction.

@Dakota G I’m not interested in getting deep with my trauma on the internet with a stranger but i definitely understand where you’re coming from. i have empathy for this girl and others who feel like its their only option but i also can reason that murder doesn’t really solve any issues either

​@Angie Byrd I'm not asking you to divulge any trauma, that's your own privacy. Just to be empathetic enough to understand people's circumstances are different. Of course nobody is advocating for her to murder her parents. There isn't any justice for murdering them and she should still go to jail for this. Just that it's frankly not a surprising outcome considering she was abused for 25 years. My only point is that your lack of consideration for something so extreme may be due to many other factors.

@Dakota G no i totally understand that. it just doesn’t make it any less shocking. ps i hope you can heal from what you endured. sending you love and light💜

@f g she could have choosen to stay with her bf but she choose to kill them, no matter what murder cannot be the right choice they could have come to a agreement but to backstab her family like that is too much in my opinion,unless it is selfdefence which its not in this case.

A little fun fact about this channel-
JCS is actually a team of professionals in the field of criminal psychology and all the content we see was out together by them. The narrator is just that, hired by the JCS team to simply read a script. And in my opinion, they picked the absolute perfect guy for the job. It just wouldn't be the same without him.

Like first 48 but better

If this was on Netflix it would be an 8 part series that covered as much as JCS does in 90mins.

Also no dumb dramatizations for shock value

My thoughts exactly so many filler scenes and it drives me nuts

What, I thought the 8th clip of the policeman asking the person to step out of the car was somehow crucial to the 3minute ad-filled video.

All those likes despite countless dislikes.

repeating of footage on tv is so annoying, just to make it 2 hours long.

plus, no music like omg suspence and stuff

I appreciate the no hype, no gimmicks and no extraneous content. Pure, simple and to the point is my style.

No commercials

@K Jeezy.

[Insert Ancient Aliens guy picture ]

No music too, by using music you automatically ruin the objectivity of the source material as it invokes emotion from the viewer

@K Jeezy aaa

Flintsparked u the man. This is professional journalism. ☝️ I agree with u

Hahaha I just commented something like this on another one of his videos, and I iknow! This stuff is better than ID channel

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@Lady Lynx character blinks

LOUD BANG

One TV series I'll give strong credit to is Forensic Files on HLN.

@BUTT HURTZ exactly

@Alyssa Dana now what are you wearing ?

its the editing that kills it for me. 2 second clip of court room, cut to 3 second clip of suspect, cut to 4 seconds of the crime scene

Right!
And also so refreshing not to hear overly dramatic music, trying to let us know how to feel at the moment lol. This type of thing should be paid while the tv crap should be free because they put no effort into realism. JCS does just that and does it well.

@BUTT HURTZ JCS has good scripture in his documentary’s and also has good vocational skills which shorten his words and make it easier to understand and his burns at the criminalists are hilarious

I don't know about anyone else, but the worst thing to remove my interest in those shows are "dramatasized actors" recreating the events, with that corny blurry filter and slo-mo, with the quick cuts to a Nokia sending texts and then the "epic" flashing police lights. Just something about it that's so painful I'd rather binge the whole series GLEE on repeat

True

You look more like a flooring inspector.

yea we’ll definitely be watching your episode on here soon..

@[Blank] Lmk where i went wrong i take criticism my boye

@kayzd oh my god you’re actually a legend lmao. I just watched you murder a man

@kayzd You have been charged with the murder of Kyle Boswell.

@Plain Person loll. Wasn't me. It was the 3 armed men who I let in the front door 🤣

@kayzd what is a pathological liar?

Like a naive child "I thought you were on my side! ;("

Decent? You’re not an interrogator.

​@DeathlyBioShock How do you know? Maybe he is an interrogator or knows enough about their techniques to assess the interrogator's skill level?

@Anatoly Dyatlov Yeah, I’m sure a trained professional is watching other interogations and bragging about his skills in a comment section.

​@DeathlyBioShock He didn't brag at all. He merely stated that the detective did a decent job.

The Bible: do you swear to tell the truth so help you god?
Jennifer: yes
God: 👁👄👁

@Kyle Boswell "What happens to you is you're going to prison..." The narrator says, in no uncertain terms, that the detective could not tell her what her sentencing would be. Forget about a college degree, you couldn't even be bothered to pay attention to the damn video, kid lol (not a dig, I sincerely suspect and hope you are a teenager and not a full grown man saying this nonsense). And before you make an appeal to authority - my military training dealt with questioning and interviewing people in high stress situations - and I still wouldn't claim the level of subject matter expertise you just did - that detective is light years ahead of most people I knew in that regard. The detective didn't do a "decent" job, he did an excellent job. No matter how strong a case is, it is always bolstered by obtaining a proper confession (cut and dry cases can be thrown out on technicalities). At any point, too little rapport - too much pressure - an abrupt shift in tone or rhetoric, could have jeopardized the confession. Please stop assuming you know more than you do, and please don't try and save face with your response to this (it won't work). Humility goes a long way...

@Kyle Boswell kyle

@Kyle Boswell You do have a point, she had no idea how the law works. But the police needed a bullet proof way to get a confession. Confronting straight up is a big risk.

@Kyle Boswell How do you know he deleted your comment, dude

It's not possible to delete others comments unless you are author, owner of the channel, moderator or Google bot or worker, dude.

@kayzd i just witnessed a murder- uhm no officer i didnt see anything
x👄x

@Kyle Boswell Report is not deletion, dude. Also, you cannot know who was it, dude

@Jack Ladd A pathological liar is someone who lies constantly, elaborately, and excessively. Sometimes there is no clear purpose while other times is in a way to put themselves in a positive light (to make themselves either a victim/a hero)

she got out played tbh

Wish I knew what Kyle said. I can’t see his comment here

It's amazing how the interviewers ask simple but direct and purposeful questions and then watch you destroy yourself.

Thanks for the heads-up. Sorry to hear it's eating at you

could you tell me the timestamp?

@Skip ads 3:31

What amazes me, is Jennifer's reaction to those cries on the 999 call. It must have surprised (and concerned) her that he was still alive (goddammit), but she has the presence enough to play victim on the call, and quite convincingly so. Bear in mind, what she's really thinking is probably "finish him, quick" through all that apparent concern. She's so dangerous that girl.

I skipped past it. I couldn't take it. That's a human, screaming for his life and his family.

Yeah for someone who has seen and heard some shit that is stuck in my head on loop for the past few days.

@layla Mcdonald how did you judge this person by asking for timestamp? I wanted to know as well so I WOULDN'T be shocked and that's how I took it from his asking too. Different minds, I guess....

yup it's ME! in his second comment he literally said “lulz” after finding the screams

@luccii_w gotcha...then yes that is fucked up 😒 didn't see that one

So don't watch it then, real life isnt all rainbows and sunshine

@T1memaster I think you missed the part where I said I already heard it. No one said life is all rainbows and sunshine.

Agreed

HonestlyKi thought this comment was sarcastic at first hahaha

Wasn't that bad.

Dein Vaters Vater dang, I don’t mean this in a rude way at all but you must have seen some shit to not think that was bad 😳 that was so awful

I agree made my stomach clentch! Feel kinda nausious and scrared now.

Yeah, I had to mute and read the transcript. Can't bear to listen, it makes me sick.

i like papa scream :D

@layla Mcdonald that's what I was thinking......this is entertainment for them...shame

Thats nothing, go to el blog del narco and watch some videos, put a diaper on btw before you do!

agreed. i watched several documentaries and that was the first time I felt terrified

Facts

I was watching a case about some teenage boys who murdered their younger siblings and they included the 911 call one of the children made. I wasn’t expecting it and didn’t have the tab open so hearing that suddenly absolutely fucking broke me…

😭

I don't think it's normal for people to listen in on other people being murdered.

It’s already as easy as it gets. You tell
them you want to talk to a lawyer. And then you follow your lawyer’s advice.

Yes i agree this video helped me alot

I'm curious, though, wouldn't that happen even if the grief was real? To have to stop and analyze a question, surely you'd have to cease sobbing and think about it

@Ceiling Fan gestures wouldn’t cease but become subtle if authentic.

@ECL Yeah, like if your in a happy mood and someone asks you a question, you'll still be happy even though you not thinking about it, cause your body is full of happy hormones. But if your faking it, the moment your concentration is broken, there is nothing to keep you in that mood.

Time stamp?

That was a very skilful observation from the detective, and shows he is good at what he's doing. He saw the anomaly, and knew how to test it to confirm it. If Jennifer was smart enough, she would have caught it and countered it. She made many mistakes (well... conspiracy included above all others), but that was what got her caught.

@Ceiling Fan You're not wrong. But it's a bit more complicated than that. That's why I think the detective is a genius. He got a suspicion, he pinpointed what the source of that suspicion was and tested it. Again and again. She was inconsistent. She snapped out of it every single time the detective interrupted. It could happen here and there, sure, but not consistently.

Also, pretending to cry but the napkin remaining completely dry... dead giveaway.

That alone may have been normal, but there were several other red flags in her behaviour that made those inconsistencies significant

exactly

You wouldn’t download a car

@forfunofun one love man

@James Nihger 2 mouths

"And it all started by stealing candy from a gas station." type of escalation.

like the movie Falling Down lmao

"Don't fake your test result kid"

what my parents think will happen to me for cheating in school

Uh.... didn't it take over 10 years to escalate that far? Not sure that qualifies as "quickly."

Tiger parents created a monster and it ate them,they weren't any better

You could say she turned some of those A's into Aggrevated Assault.... puts on sunglasses YEEAAAHHHHHHH

lol man , u get 1.9k likes in 15h

@Chloe Turner same here

@bladeoflight16 I didn't know this video was 10 years long, site your sources

shit went from 0 to 100 real quick

@Ted Undercarriage they meant the abuse from the parents continued for years before it got to this point.

Bruh I thought the same thing. I was like yew that escalated way to quickly.

Marlow Anway I think they meant that she spent 8 years lying to her parents and creating this false persona.

Ted Undercarriage She was 14 when she started lying to her parents and faking her grades. She killed them when she was 24. So yeah, her decent into complete deprivation took 8 years. That’s near enough to 10 years that he just rounded up.

It's a slippery slope kids!

Lmao

@BladeOfLight16 it really did for us, the viewer, it really caught us off guard

@Black Roberts he just wanted a ham and cheese whamlet

empirical proof that "slippery slope" is not a logical fallacy.

It’s called a plot summary

Not gonna lie I laughed when she said, "she was given an ultimatum of option 1 and option 2, but she didn't like ether option so she opted for option 3 where she and her boyfriend hired 3 men ...... "

shes the imposter

@forfunofun I can imagine me being interrogated because of downloading a car. Its good to know the techniques that will be used against me, that's why I watch those I guess.
I mean, its not a crime to download a car, not yet, but that won't stop them from making it become a crime, and I can get caught in the middle of that machine, so better be careful.

Idk know man, that would’ve been the logical escalation in my parents mind if I faked graduating.

@Chris1z1 🤣

@BladeOfLight16 I think they meant that the video didn’t release the information little by little and instead just released it almost all at once 😭

It was way deeper than that. Watch a video that’s more focused on the case vs the interrogation to see how deep she got in her lies

I know right lmao

@Chloe Turner Nah she could have left. She had an option to go and live with her boyfriend, but she wanted the money her parents could provide. She's an absolute demon.

@ShinySylvie right. Plenty of us w toxic parents that had/ have to work hard and get shit ourselves. No need to murder them like a monster. Selfish and sick😬

@Chloe Turner A lot of things humans do are “natural responses”, but that alone has never been a valid justification for atrocities. Especially not when she had the explicit option to leave her parents behind for good as a full-fledged adult. There was nothing motivating her choices beyond raw hatred and a need for their money. Unless you plan to murder your parent in the future after there’s nothing left to escape, I don’t see how you could support her actions. Empathizing =\= agreeing.

@Chloe Turner Alright, but just don’t try to play the victim if you end up going down the whole “homicide route”.

@Chloe Turner That’s what I should be asking you. You’re not seriously contemplating murder, are you? Because whatever you’re going through, that escalation will only make your situation worse.

@Name one love

@BladeOfLight16 he’s talking about how it escalated quickly in the video

@Chloe Turner Ladie stop please...

@forfunofun forgive me master

Went from 0 to 100 real quick

@BladeOfLight16 l

@Name One cup

@Lisa Porter-Smith
Indeed, and even if you have to use force someone in the defence of life that does not make violence good or even neutral.

@forfunofun thank you

I love lamp

I hate to admit this but I do understand what she was going through. In no way am I defending her decision but I understand what brought her there. I was in the same situation, if not worse until my early 30's. I even had to make my mother's living for her, starting in middle school. She brought me an itemized list of what "I owed her financially for raising me". On the list was food, clothing, diapers, the extra utilities that I cost, etc. I was the only one I knew of that had an 8:00 curfew, even in college. I wasn't ever allowed to go on a weekend trip with friends in my 20's, even after I had bought my own home and moved out. My mother even made me decorate the house that I bought the way she wanted me to. Her "friends" have even said that I was nothing more to my mother than child labor. I was always told what a disappointment I was to her and how she deserved a better daughter than me. She specifically mentioned 3 girls my age (late teens and early 20's) that she wanted to adopt because they were so much better than me. I could go on and on about how I was treated but I think I've made my point. That said, I get where Jennifer was coming from! But, as hard as it was, I chose to break free from my mother, put up my boundaries and distance myself from her. It wasn't overnight, it took many small steps and many years to finally do, but I did it. Even now in my early 40's I struggle with keeping those boundaries up. But, I had choices and so did Ms. Pan!! She just chose the "easy" and horrific way out!! I'm not saying that her doing what I did would have been easy...it wasn't for me and it wouldn't have been for her! But, she absolutely did have choices!!

LOL I faked grades but it only led to petty theft before I turned things around at 26 :)

deception is at the root of all evil

P

It’s like an 80’s after-school special, where small lies and transgressions lead to big ones😂

Must be your first time here. Welcome 😋

@BladeOfLight16 the retelling of the events escalated quickly in the video. Not the real time events. Obviously.

The Good Lord loves you

moral of the story: dont lie to your parents, kids; and eat your veggies

She got a third leg

3 black people

@Marlow Anway what abuse? Being sent to college and not actually going but taking the money?

@nonyer bidness sounds like your Friday night.

@indigo one yes they were, being a strict parent is not the same as being a murderer....

That poor child, her parents destroyed her & so she destroyed them

Of the rails

It appears more like a straw that broke the camels back. This has been brewing for years.

@Jenn*1381 I can somewhat relate. I moved away upon HS graduation without saying that’s what I was doing as it would be unsafe to do so. I had to get away to begin the process of healing and sanity.

@Sandra Kersey I am sorry to hear that but I'm glad you got out! Unless people have been there themselves, they can't truly understand. It's incredibly hard to cut ties with your parents. We are built to love them and want them in our lives but in those kinds of situations it's just not possible

First it’s a joint, next it’s crack cocaine.

P pop

The name of The Lord is holy, my friend.

@ShinySylvie You're right. She could have just been a housewife/girlfriend.

🤣🤣🤣

“Mastermind”

@Incey Wincey are you correcting me for not using capital letters? 😂

@Max McCann no I’m questioning the use of the word “mastermind” my phone incorrectly capitalised it and I didn’t notice, sorry.
Edit: Well apparently I only wrote the one word so it didn’t incorrectly capitalise it, but neither did you incorrectly not do so, so everything worked out in the end.

@Incey Wincey haha yeah it’s cool I mean I was just using it cause I think it sounds pretty cool and she kinda was the mastermind behind it all lmao

The average mind

@Gilbert Sefolo she doesn't seem like the average chick to me lmao

@Max McCann perhaps not average skater, but deffo below average academic

@Max McCann Yeah, she's below average lmao

@Incey Wincey
"Mastermind" just means that she was the person who hatched the plan and put it into motion, you don't have to be the smartest person in the world to be a mastermind behind a crime, lmao.

@Ralph Körner it is also a TV quiz show, a puzzle game, and less commonly nowadays an adjective unrelated to criminal behaviour to describe someone who is particularly clever and good at planning and organisation, I am highlighting the incongruence of the usage of the term in this context between its several definitions, or in plainer terms:
I am making a joke about her being stupid.
Would you like me to make one about you?

Not that much of a mastermind

Exactly.

I wonder how early the detective truly knew, let alone suspected. There are plenty of tells and given that it’s his whole job I’m assuming he would catch on to her body language and other verbal tells much earlier than we would… it’s chilling

The likes were 879 and just to even the like numbers I liked also.. Now it's 880.. Now I can sleep peacefully 😁

Ah yes, maturity 1000

@Incey Wincey just delete your comments bro

I do PI work and studied CJ and i must say that it’s really not that big a deal to us. we usually already know the suspect already did it and although our eyes may not be fully open, when they are, it’s not that shocking

@jeremy that's actually pretty interesting, sounds a bit like Columbo lol

@Max McCann your triggered lmao

@Forgiven And loved By God what???😂😂😂 how am I triggered bro? 😂😂😂 Hahaha I'm acc so confused you need to learn how to use words correctly my man 😂

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@Incey Wincey Cringe.

@Z Null no one in this comment section isn't "cringe"

Her father woke and said what happened before this so there was already suspicion

@Samuel Hein no one in any comment section isn’t cringe.
Except for the occasional comment that is genuinely funny.
Everything else is cringe
Especially when it goes on too long.
Especially when it’s self referential in a really cheap and amateurish way in order to justify itself.
You’ll get over it.

@JABBER JAW I liked it.

@Incey Wincey Cringe.

This is not your dissertation. Please keep your philosophizing to yourself, nobody is impressed or awed.

@Z Null what gives you any reason to assume I’m doing this for your entertainment?

@Incey Wincey That's certainly a creative definition of entertainment.

@Z Null I take that as a compliment, thanks.

​@Incey Wincey I'll pretend to be surprised.

@Z Null you’re a terrible actor but I appreciate the effort.

It’s basically a “You’re the Sith Lord” moment

Thats how Hank felt in breaking bad

@Z Null oh no a guy made fun of me let me post another comment so my adoring fans can be informed that it is I. Not he. Who is the good boy.

@Incey Wincey I think you already did

@Incey Wincey how you talk proves your unintelligence

I mean they knew from the 911 call. How did she call the police with her hands tied? Why is she the only one uninjured?

@Siler Savvy it was proven in the video that she could have called the police with her hands tied.

A detective would know anything is possible. They would be prepared. I mean, most people are killed by someone they know. She would have been an unofficial suspect from the get-go.

@Incey Wincey Yeah, she was so bad at lying, contradicted herself so many times. It was poorly planned out, this mastermind just had someone else do her dirty work out of an impulsive urge.

Exactly. I was also raised by strict parents and I've got a big amount of trauma due to this kind of upbringing, yet I didn't turn out to be a murderer.

Part of her sentence is she cannot communicate with anyone from her family ever

The book gives somewhat of an update. The Pan family has pursued a no-contact order, which prevents her to ever reach out to her brother or Hann or any member of her extended family.

While Hann has survived the attack, he says he’s a wreck and can no longer go to work. On the other hand, near the end of the trial, Hann said that he hopes his daughter will one day be a decent person again.

It wasnt just "leaving", it was disowning her. People seem to completely miss this. No communication, no outreach, not even a happy birthday. Ever. From ANY of her extended family. You are effectively now an orphan. The asian community is very tight knit, and very few 24 year olds would willingly cut all contact with all of their family, short of being antisocial reddit addicts.

I thought the same thing. i was like i would've just said i hid. she could've probably gotten away with it too. just leave the door unlocked and have them come in when they're sleeping. pshh sneak out w the boyfriend while the parents were asleep and leave the door unlocked. crimes were so easy to get away with back than. not saying its okay to do it.. just saying she could've, they really had nothing but her

Thanks for the advice!

Okay well don't give them tips dude😭😂

She would've gotten caught the whole situation of her lies and suddenly her parents are murdered cops would prob put a lie detector or keep interrogating her more later in life and im sure she wouldve went hard about the life insurance and fuck it up best outcome is to not murder your parents

This wouldn't work here, cause her dad told that he saw her walking around downstairs...

@Senpai Buttluvr I mean. I agree, but polygraphs themselves aren't admissible in court if I remember correctly. I believe it could be used to show that she wasnt truthful during interrogation and could be used by prosecutors to push forward the accusation that she cannot be trusted to tell the truth, if the results came up deceptive but it would not be evidence in and of itself.

@ashley Government transparency is a reason why everything is public record from my understanding. Those records can be gone through and used as study material for law students or other interested in the justice system, for example. As for why everything is recorded. In the US interrogations are recorded, both visually and audibly to be used at a later date if necessary during the trial. From the moment you are involved in a case, especially if you are a suspect, anything you say or do can and will be used against you. Recordings are a way of proving a claim that you said or did something.

@ashley There are exceptions and protections in place depending on situations. For example, minors. Their records are kept under lock and key and wiped clean when they turn 18 unless they are charged as adults. Also, there are witness protection protocols in some circumstances as well where they are kept anonymous and given a new identity.

Anyway. I'm glad I could offer some insight. 😊

She was nervous. She wasn't thinking straight

But the police managed to find the text message and phone call record, so I think it wont make much difference

I totally get all the other factors that would convict her eventually, but I'm just saying...WHY not make the initial lie as simple as possible? Obviously not condoning any of this, it just seems like a no-brainer.

omg so smart is that how u got away with ur murder ?

@Xo Freestyles I've cried over fruit flies I had to feed my ghost mantis.

Honestly she could've got away with it

Hahah that's EXACTLY what I was going to comment!!
They knocked me out, have them pretend to pistol whip her or do it for real, or yeah, I hid. Anything..no long drawn out ramble fest to get into haha
Kind of short sighted she thought she could recount all this perfectly

@Alciel鬼 i mean, her father actually survived so she wouldve been caught anyway.

She would have been told on by her father anyway!

...and knowing is half to winning!

Doesn't matter what she said since the biggest evidence was the messages she and her bf exchanged

Maybe she is really not that smart

exactly i'm always watching detective dramas she could just have said that she hid and didn't saw whwat happened

Sounds like you've done this before lol

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Thats why she didnt excel in her academics

They don't catch the smart ones.

@ashley freedom of information act might have something to do with the release of information on these cases too but i could be totally off and wrong about that

@Xo Freestyles u attempted

Woah! Helping the killer! Omg people!

Oh ok thanks I’ll do that!!

DO YOU NOT WANT HER TO GET CAUGHT?!

"I didn't see anything. Am I a suspect? I want a lawyer!"

@Klaudia Kasprzak his testimony would not be valid in court because he had brain damage.. She would definely be ok if she just said she was hidden the all time. There was no proof whatsoever, despite the motive being there.

She was a C- student

Father saw her, his father was still alive at the hospital at the time and could answer questions.

Because her dad saw her walking around

Her dad is STILL alive and said what happen. So she SOL either way.

only way that would had worked is if she ACTUALLY hid in the closet or under bed

So, you wanted her to get away with having her parents killed?

Well she was a C student

Iam sacred for your parents.

Well they did state her talents in figure skating translated very poorly into her academics. Not exactly the brightest bulb.

It is the classic Columbo mistake, he says "oh, just one more thing" or asks a thousand questions about seemingly insignificant little details, that you answer with little lies, then boom it's those little lies that get you caught out. The more you say the more you dig yourself into a hole.

She could’ve easily gotten away with it. If they faked a forced entry, did it at around 3pm, and have Jennifer claim to hear the men and hide herself somewhere.
During the actual murder, she should’ve actually acted out on her story- like physically hide somewhere and stay in character throughout the whole situation.
This way she could’ve recounted the invasion with 90% accuracy instead of fabricating a completely made up story. They wouldn’t be able to catch her out on a lie if she wasn’t lying.

@Dumb dumb Exactly, it's rare that someone hires someone to commit a murder for them but doesn't use that as a way to give themself an alibi, usually, that's the whole point, even doing it that way as you've said, it still gives her a plausible lie if nothing else but she didn't even do that. Weird.

Hmmm u seem sus

😂

Exactly!!!

She was screaming for her dad during the 911 call so I don't think she'll get away if she said she hid inside the closet. HAHHAHAHAHAHHA

Not y’all saying you could get away with murder 🤭

Why tf are you giving her advice to hide from murder

Piggie822 I dunno the text msgs were pretty incriminating no?

@Alciel鬼 her dad does not have brain damage, it was just an example of what the outcome could have been. It was after the second interrogation where she was being watched by a surveillance officer and after the funeral where he secretly gave a statement that contradicted Jennifer's statement. He was told to fake having amnesia so that she wouldn't suspect that the police already knew that she was lying.

I mean yea it would’ve made sense and she could’ve lied and said she didn’t do anything cause she was scared and the investigators would’ve assumed it was because of heat they did to her in the past

In a case where the dad died and wasn’t able to accuse his daughter, if she kept her story straight she would not have been arrested. Without being arrested they likely wouldn’t have found her burner phone. Unless they found it while processing the crime scene but I doubt that.

The investigators are not noobs😆

Mr MAGe agree they aren’t noobs. But I think they would without a doubt suspect her but would they of had any proof to arrest her? Would they be able to get a warrant to search the house?

@Klaudia Kasprzak I think his point to say the whole plan should have been to hide in the closet.

@Leona Eckert if it can't be used as evidence why would we judge her character to be thruthful on what the polygraph said

That's possible if she didn't make that 911 call just yet.

Sounds like someone has thought aboot this😄

@wildecoyote2222 Polygraphs are simple tests that read someone's physiological responses. However, the test is not perfect. There are people that can pass it and still be lying. There are people that fail it because of sudden spikes of anxiety. It's not a perfect test. That is why you cannot use a polygraph as evidence in court. It's too weak. The same way you dont want to build a case off of circumstantial evidence. Polygraphs are used more to establish and reveal a possible pattern in which the individual is not being truthful. You cant build a case off of it.

The goal of a trial for murder, is that it be unanimous, without a single doubt. To build a case of circumstantial evidence and a polygraph alone leaves A LOT of room for doubt.

Her father survived so she would have been screwed either way

@Alciel鬼 she would have gotten away with it anyway is she had not confessed.

@ashley they record everything for evidence and so they can go back and watch the footage.

@Alciel鬼 they needed a confession, if she had kept her mouth shut she would be a free woman.

DolceVita they wouldn’t have needed to looked at her text messages if she didn’t get herself involved.

We got a pro here

Easy to say it over here. When those good investigators sit down in a small room with you, you usually shit on your paints.

@Doni Bathuu how did they even get those messages?the only way I know is if they hot her whole of her physical burner phone

Thanks for the advice bro 😶

speaks with experience

@elva ramirez yeah she wouldn't be able to say anything contradicting, but the text messages on the burnout phone would expose anyway.

@Alciel鬼 yep, it was mentioned in the video, that's why I said that he gave a statement in secret after the funeral because that's around the time in the video where he says that Jennifer's dad didn't get brain damage. Well he probably did like you said, but just not to the extent where his statement should count as invalid 🤷🏻‍♀️

I said the same thing

@Alciel鬼 At the end it's revealed that they've found her text messages when she was organizing the hit.

@Alciel鬼 hmm, good point.

@Senpai Buttluvr No. if she had stayed in her room time, when they asked what happened that night she would have said she didn’t know because she was hiding. They wouldn’t have pressed or grilled her because she would have remained a victim in their eyes. They only started grilling her after her lies started getting mixed up and she was acting suspicious.

@Senpai Buttluvr lie detectors are a joke. They mean absolutely nothing.

One thing that also confuses me though is that the people were supposedly there for money, meaning they would ransack the whole house. If she had said she hid, then the detective would reason that she would have been found. She would have had to make an entirely new motive for the attackers if she were to say she hid.

Because she is not very bright, which is more than clear watching her talk lol

Yeah and that would've worked exactly only up to the moment her dad wakes up and testifies that she walked around the house and talked to the invaders on a friendly basis.

There's a reason she was a straight C student.

@Wyatt Nite 😂😂😂😂😂

@Klaudia Kasprzak she shouldn’t have been walking around downstairs. She should have hid.

I would even take " I blacked out " at this point

For her own satisfaction, it seems, she wanted to see them die?!?

@Wyatt Nite oh my- no 😩

😅😂😂😂😂😂

I don't think she very good at this whole thing.b

@Leona Eckert they are never wiped clean they are inaccessible to the public. It can be retrieved if needed. (For sensitive background checks from the government for example)

D+ student

Lmaoo she talk too much

Because her father lived and he testified that she was talking to the intruders like they were friends.

@Brandon Masseythen you say because I was scared I didn't want to get murdered... my second option was to sneak out with her boyfriend for the night and not even be there.

@Brandon Massey You have a fair point. I think it's also fair to believe a person's fight or flight instincts might kick in and they would do what they need to in order to survive in that situation. Hiding may be the best option, especially for a small woman. Which is unfortunate when loved one's are being attacked...but the will to live might be stronger at a moment like that.
I'm obviously not saying it's the right thing to do. Let's hope neither of us ever have to find out.

@Wyatt Nite Did you do it?

it kinda frustrates me she thinks she can play this innocent asian girl and talk her way trough 3 interviews wtf lawyer up already .. but im glad she got busted

@Klaudia Kasprzak yes but her father's brain damage could be used against him if she lawyerd up

@Vivekanand Rai Yes, very true! My point is not that she would have gotten away with it if she was a better liar...just that her lie was SO outrageously dumb, she basically told on herself.

That's the catch 22 of the most naive criminals. They don't want to appear guilty, and even the most innocent people assume that getting a lawyer means the cops are gonna see you as guilty, so they opt to talk. She was probably wondering how it would look for the daughter of two parents that were murdered and refusing to talk to police over it. Most logical people know it's the right thing, she on the other hand was probably more bothered by how that would be perceived by the investigators, friends, and perhaps even the media

Nothing, head empty

Why? The vast majority of people have no idea that you ought to immediately ask for a lawyer upon interrogation, and why should they? Most people don't do anything to get themselves in this kind of situation.

@Steve Focks well, everyone SHOULD be aware of their rights at least. But, perhaps I have WAY too much faith in human intelligence to assume that as a norm,....

I also think she had been fooling her parents for so long she just thought she was an awesome lier.

I would say thats a fair agreement

cant ma eany promises, ill try my best

Murderer: don’t talk to the police.

@Tārā-Māyā Murderer: DO talk to police.
Innocents: Don't talk to police

Pretty simple, yeah.

unrealistic expectations are to not be with drug dealer and not to live double life lying to them for 8 years?

Yeah. Asking your kid to go to school and not date a drug dealer. Sounds reasonable.

@Christopher Kupst lol simpsons?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahagahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahqahahah

Amen

Ante Bekavac did you even watch the video ? lol

That part

Don't murder is standard but in her case she was smart enough to hide her bf and fake records.
She could have gone far and looked into insurance scams or mlm's.

Parents: don’t allow your kids to become someone you hate. Because it will have murderous ramifications

She could’ve left. She wanted mommy and daddy to give her money though.

that's really too much to ask!

Shitposting Senpai unconditional love is what jen’s parents should have shown her, regardless of whether or not she fulfilled the expectations they forced on her. if you think love comes with conditions and that it can be revoked if those conditions aren’t met, please don’t ever have kids. at best, they’ll be emotionally unavailable for the rest of their lives. at worst, they’ll murder you.

@meat cute 🍖💕 but "unconditional love, " when itself overdone, is crippling and has the same effect. balance is needed

men with ven yeah, right? like you’d think they’d write their story down somewhere to keep it straight for next time lmao

@Christopher Kupst I used to say that to people 😂😂😂 "I'd like to subscribe to your news letter". Few would get the reference.

My wife says you can tell who has asian parents in this thread.

Moral of the story
Kids: don’t be complete narcissistic pricks

End of moral.

say that to every asian household ever lmao

M

MURAKAMIDOLO a 24 year old that was a high school drop out and was dating a drug dealer and lying to them, having a double life while getting money from them??? Yeah you are right asking her to have a curfew of 9pm in exchange for continuing to live for FREE at their home while getting her SHIT together is too much. Yep. I would have actually given her one option. That is: you are on your own honey. See who the hell is going to give you money now.

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment with a promise), “that it may go well with you and that you may live long in the land.” Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.
Ephesians 6

Jason and there mine... bless our hearts.

You forgot....And dispatchers clean the wax out of your ears.

T J T J unconditional love means accepting your loved ones, even if they fuck up or don’t meet your expectations. for example, my mom is bipolar and wasn’t medicated for a long time. instead of rejecting her for the behavior she displayed because of her illness, i lent her my support and helped her find a therapist and medication that worked for her. it wasn’t crippling for either of us. in this case, jen’s parents should have supported her in following whatever goals she set for herself. it’s really not that hard idk why you’d think loving someone is crippling lol it’s only a problem if you enable their toxic/unhealthy behavior.

Her parents didn't strike me as being good parents. Her choices were a consequence of that. Im a dad.

Moral of the story is; some cultures are different and the immigration policy should reflect that

Nothing is unrealistic here!

Being a doctor or something great maybe unrealistic. They gave her the chance to chose her own life. Live under our roof and we will pay your expenses but we expect you to seriously attend school or leave with your boyfriend and live as you please. That is a hard choice but reasonable she was an adult and could work and support herself.

So what the fuck was she supposed to do then? Was she supposed to kill herself? Because these monsters almost fucking drove her to do just that. You can't make a stupid, blanket statement like " Don't kill anyone " because self-defense already exists and turns it into a gray area. There are nuances and circumstances that might allow for a just murder. If someone is abusing you and you have no way of getting out because no one else helped you when you asked for it, you ABSOLUTELY have the right to kill someone to stop the fucking abuse because you have no other options and you shouldn't be forced to take your own life just to spare the abusers, the MONSTER'S life, who will get no repercussions, no justice served. You literally just justified those awful parents' and let them off scott-free with just a warning, while this poor girl whose been a victim of obvious emotional abuse her entire life, gets the maximum sentence and punished. Are you fucking kidding me?

@Sogno_di_Carta So you didn't watch the entire video. Either that or you're willingly ignoring the entire context of the situation. Neither is good.

Noted.

men with ven Exactly. Most people who’ve been through that traumatic event would be incredibly confused and concerned as to why the police were bringing up her boyfriend.

Some parents can see potentials in their children.. Being teenagers, some still not wise enough to see what the future lies without education.. Maybe the parents didnt want their children to experience what they went through, hence the pressure to be high achievers.. Some teens are very wise at an early age without any pressure what so ever from parents..

Yeah

now thats something i can get behind

Antoine Carr @ Amen to that

Sounds reasonable.

Well shit there goes my plans for the evening

How is getting good grades and a good job unrealistic?

Expecting your kid to get good grades is an unrealistic expectation now?

Got it! 👍👍

Antoine Carr Durex.....

@Testing this name Well what you think isn't fact, that's the crux of the issue. People generally understand what is meant by "unconditional love", you do not. Therefore it appears to be you that has the issues.

Yea, just pay for her college but it's unrealistic to expect her to go to class. Got it!

Everybody: have the business card of a good lawyer BEFORE someone asks if you would like one.

Fine and well, but this comment seems to suggest murder was a natural response to emotional abuse. Sorry...you missed the mark...murder is almost universally 0 tolerance regardless of how hurt your feelings are

I don’t blame ya! Damn good deal !

Well said

umm and how abiut dont lie and live a double life, face your failures and dont date drug dealers her parents are not in the wrong at all

@Tomato I disagree I think 99% of people know and are smart enough not to do bad things they just choose too, it's their choice

@Tomato acting out isn't murdering your parents that is cold blooded evil

@D Boy true... i was just speaking generally

@D Boy maybe

@men with ven what are u talking about lol wdym he talks for an hour about her boyfriend

THANK YOU....

Unrealistic expectations in this case are: Go to school, don't date drug dealer. The End. Poor love couldn't handle her parents not paying for her fake college dorm and fees anymore.

Something to live by

not really an unreal expectation, it was possible, just that they forced her to do something they wanted.

Murderers: don’t speak too much and get a lawyer

Sleep Well 😌I can promise that

Parents set high expectations make your brats reach for the moon. Including me I like a motivational challenge most kids are weak, soft and edgy for nothimg smh

A better abstraction: Kids - Don't resent your parents.

@men with ven Even if you lie your best, you forget these guys have likely interigated thousands of people. now even if you know how to lie, experience will likely prevail. Best not speak to police, every lawyer says this for a reason.

@Ellis oh I know their professionals and very good at there job but I'm a professional at lying lol. I was a heroin addict for 6 years and nobody on Earth knew about it including my wife. It's nothing to be proud of but I am damn near a perfect liar.

Worst idea ever

That's BS kids should have high standards and expectations. America is screwed! Smh

@J Kozy don't spoil your kids. They should've let her fend for herself. She's 24 she should've had a job and place. Smh

@Never file Taxes again why? Because you're soft?

@Sogno_di_Carta thank you!!

@Sogno_di_Carta it's the younger generation I'm a millennial. These young kids/teens are so wrong about literally everything yet they think they know it all. The future is screwed.

@Never file Taxes again yeah that's right blame the gov. No personal responsibility. Smh that's the mindset of a loser.

@Jigs Orla yeah they were great parents. Nice victim blaming.

@gasai yuno monsters? SHE WAS THE MONSTER!!!

@S Critoph the threat of punishment? She's an adult! She should've got her life together instead of banging a drug dealer. You people are slow

@Joey Barz yes learn how to lie. I've practiced body language and emotions of lying for 15 years. It is possible to learn how to be a better liar.