I never truly appreciated the immense talent for investigators until now, every single action is calculated and has an effect on later interrogations. It's quite amazing to see them pick apart a story from memory of previous investigations or to almost coach the suspect into telling the truth. So satisfying

Not really that's all they're investigating at the time so they have plenty of time to speak to others and collect evidence so by the time it comes to the interrogation they know almost as much as the suspect does you don't need to be an expert.

Lol you should go watch the stephen mcdaniels interrogation.....at one point he uses a "stealing a cookie from the cookie jar" analogy, and then proceeded yo ask him "did you take that cookie stephen" 🤣🤣🤦♂

That's why you never ever EVER talk to the police without a lawyer. Of course they never needed her confession because she was way too dumb, so it's all fake drama.

It's crazy I saw one of an hours long case where all the comment were getting in the cop about him pressing the guy and how he was innocent. Turns out he had murdered his ex wife while their kid was sleeping. He cut her up and buried her on their property.
He got the confession.
The way the rooms are set up is incredible to.
And the rules as well.

Would recommend watching the Stephanie Lazaus or Russell Williams interrogations. Or even better the inhuman Christopher Watts. The psychology  behind these acts of vile murderers is just incomprehensible.

Its a really interesting psychological game. You can say you didn’t do it a million times, they just need you to say you did do it, once. Can they get there? Its fascinating.

@The Table Of Legend very true! It can work on innocent people too and how do you know if they are guilty. They could be innocent but lying about something more trivial.

@Jesus Ambriz the anime and not the live action! The live action was like a fan fiction of the original in the vein of Twilight. Pretty much as bad as Jennifer's story🤣

It is calculated and meticulous but totally fair. Unlike in the Making A Murderer case lol. But I'm sure the vast majority attempt to be fair and compassionate. They are total liars and jerks but in the name of law and order. That's oddly reassuring. These people kind of freak me out but I need them. I recognize their necessity in a free society.

And the patience that they have!! I just watched the Jodi Arias video... no way I could've talked to that woman for 20 mins let alone 3 hour investigation 🤣🤣

Yeah, it’s really impressive here

Really sucks to watch when they use this on innocent people though. They used the fatigue technic over multiple hours on these 5 guys to get them all to confess to a rape and murder none of them committed...

It’s really impressive when used correctly though

I knew there'd be death note fans in here :)

@asd asd if you read my comment properly it actually states exactly what you corrected me for. They pick apart a story from memory <i>of previous investigations</i> I wasn't suggesting that they go into these interrogations blind with just the hope that they have chance on their side

@asd asd if you read my comment properly it actually states exactly what you corrected me for. They pick apart a story from memory _of previous investigations_ I wasn't suggesting that they go into these interrogations blind with just the hope that they have chance on their side

They rarely pick it apart from memory, they have recordings and watch that stuff over and over. It is a bad decision to instantly confront a suspect about something not holding up, you have to make sure you know every single word they said and make a strategy about how to confront the suspect. When she eventually presented gaps in her story he didn't confront her because he just happened to remember what she said, he confronted her because he had studied her previous interrogations and and knew every single word she said and how he could turn that against her.


The sound of her father screaming on that tape was horrifying. What a cruel and twisted world we live in. I know that I am being incredibly optimistic in hoping that he has found some semblance of peace after all this time.

The sound of her father screaming on that tape was horrifying. What a cruel and twisted world we live in. I know that I am being incredibly optimistic in hoping that he has found some semblance of peace after all this time.

@Orbit I think that when they say ""murder in cold blood is always wrong" if you are being good faith then you can probably infer that they are not talking about things like war or self-defense. In common parlance when we say that someone is "murdered in cold blood" we are usually talking about senseless, criminal or unjustifiable murders. There was nothing justified about this girl's killings. We've heard this story time and time again. Girl meets boy, girls hates parents, couple plans to kill parents for inheritance money. You're just wrong, and most people intuitively understand that you are wrong even if they can't fully articulate it.

@Orbit Well then I guess you think I’m a gross person.

@Orbit Well then I guess you think I’m a gross person.

These arguments have lasted for a literal month. I can’t tell wether to be impressed or disappointed.

These arguments have lasted for a literal month. I can’t tell wether to be impressed or disappointed.

@Annabella LeForce I have nothing to respond to what you just said but like I kinda find it funny how you say "murdering someone in cold blood is wrong no matter what." I 100% disagree with that because like, people in the army, police force, fbi, and anything like that, kill people all the time and they are supported and loved for it.

Also I remember this one story where a young girl (I think she was 13 at the time) was kidnaped and rapped everyday for weeks. luckily she was saved by the cops before the kidnaper could kill her but that's the type of situation where killing someone just makes sense. Would you say it's wrong for that little girl to kill the man who did that to her? I would say hell no it's a good thing for her to kill him, and if you think it's wrong for her to not kill him, you're a gross person.

@muttley jones2 Haha I guess I've been talking to a wall this entire time 😂

@muttley jones2 Haha I guess I've been talking to a wall this entire time 😂

@Edenbulte LMAO, stop talking foolish. She is an adult, the blame is on her. To say anything else is laughable.

@Edenbulte LMAO, stop talking foolish. She is an adult, the blame is on her. To say anything else is laughable.

@muttley jones2 I'm not embarrassing myself though. You're just too fixated on pinning everything on her alone for whatever reason and seem to argue with anyone who thinks otherwise. At least the rest of the people who read this comment thread won't have to waste their energy on the likes of you after this point, so my efforts aren't in vain.

@muttley jones2 I'm not embarrassing myself though. You're just too fixated on pinning everything on her alone for whatever reason and seem to argue with anyone who thinks otherwise. At least the rest of the people who read this comment thread won't have to waste their energy on the likes of you after this point, so my efforts aren't in vain.

@Edenbulte If you can't understand my comments, don't embarrass yourself trying to reply.

@Edenbulte If you can't understand my comments, don't embarrass yourself trying to reply.

@muttley jones2 No, society isn't to blame because society isn't responsible for raising her. Her parents are. Why is that so hard to understand? Do you think becoming an adult automatically makes someone's childhood experiences disappear? Whatever she went through as a child stuck with her and influenced her personality and thinking. It happens to everyone. Her parents aren't 100% innocent in this. Nobody's blaming society or horror movies here lol.

@Orbit    I wasn’t downplaying the abuse. Not at all. I really have no clue where you got that. In my original comment I said they were terrible and abusive. I just said no one deserves to get shot in the face or watch someone they love get shot in the face. And I said that bc other people have been saying he deserved it. One act of abuse or violence does not excuse another.
I’m aware it wasn’t because of the Dad being racist, other people were saying that, and I completely understand why they were murdered. I’m pretty sure I made that clear.
Also, breaking down completely from abuse and attempting to kill yourself is something I’ve seen firsthand before from multiple close friends. The abuse one of those friends went through was much much worse than her. None of them murdered their parents. If they did, it would still be a horrible crime. It’s also a horrible crime that they were subjected to abuse. Still, one does not excuse the other. I’m saying no one deserves that. That’s why it’s also against the law. Murdering someone in cold blood is wrong no matter what. I don’t know how many times I have to explain it. Acknowledging that does not downplay the abuse.
I do not think that I have the right to determine who is worse. The whole situation is a terrible shame.

@Orbit so it’s justified that she tried to kill him?

@Orbit so it’s justified that she tried to kill him?

@Lara Reis I 1000000% believe this wouldn’t exist if the parents had raised her with love and support instead of like some immigrant parents who overwork their kids

@Lara Reis I 1000000% believe this wouldn’t exist if the parents had raised her with love and support instead of like some immigrant parents who overwork their kids

@Edenbulte I think that anybody that blames the parents for her actions is an enabler. Why stop at the parents, is society to blame also? What about horror films? You see how ridiculous this gets. She is an adult responsible for her actions.

@Edenbulte I think that anybody that blames the parents for her actions is an enabler. Why stop at the parents, is society to blame also? What about horror films? You see how ridiculous this gets. She is an adult responsible for her actions.

@muttley jones2 Sorry for the late reply, but yes I think her parents are partly to blame for that. And no, I never said it's the same with every killer out there. Making a broad statement like that would be really stupid since every case is unique, as I'm sure you've learned from this channel. Are you really suggesting they're 100% innocent in all this? Do you think they had nothing to do with how their daughter turned out? You must be trolling. People are literally shaped by their childhood since that's when their brains are most susceptible to influence. Her parents' mistakes pale in comparison to what she did, but those mistakes still exist and nobody should deny that. Don't have kids if you can't raise them properly!

@heavenlypiss Ok so look, even if he was a mix of asian, he is a mix meaning two different types of asian is in him. The parents are one type of asian and if they hated one of the types he was mixed with, that would mean they were racist.

In other words you can be racist to a black and white mix if you are white, and you hate black people.

also even if they were the same race, they can still be racist to their own race. They just have to be thinking highly of themselves and hate everyone else apart of their race. The idea that you can't be racist to your own race is very flawed.

@Orbit just like i stated he was a mix of asian! thus saying it's not racism

@Orbit just like i stated he was a mix of asian! thus saying it's not racism

@Orbit Sorry to necro your past comments but your reasoning doesn't make any sense. You are saying you want people to acknowledge that her parents were bad because of racism. But this accusation of racism comes from the perpetrator who hated her father to the point of orchestrating his murder. For all we know this could have been a freudian slip of her revealing her preconceptions of her parents. I think your anger towards racists clouded your judgement when you first made the post.

What we do know for sure is that her parents were abusive, they are not angels that's for sure.

Ha. He's prolly nastier than ever and most likely blames the daughter for everything gone wrong in life.

Ha. He's prolly nastier than ever and most likely blames the daughter for everything gone wrong in life.

@heavenlypiss I mean you should probably watch the whole thing but yes he is racist, the parents didn't like the boyfriend because he was mixed race as seen here 51:33

@heavenlypiss I mean you should probably watch the whole thing but yes he is racist, the parents didn't like the boyfriend because he was mixed race as seen here 51:33

@muttley jones2 her parents raised her... and the turned her into what she is so ofc the parents are to blame for that

@muttley jones2 her parents raised her... and the turned her into what she is so ofc the parents are to blame for that

@Forever Thatter yeah that's very sad, I hope stuff like this stops happening. It very sad to hear about

@Forever Thatter yeah that's very sad, I hope stuff like this stops happening. It very sad to hear about

i'm vietnamese and it was horrifying to hear their screams. i was shocked when I realized it was vietnamese.

i'm vietnamese and it was horrifying to hear their screams. i was shocked when I realized it was vietnamese.

@heavenlypiss the only thing that's wrong was that the father wasn't murdered. They tried, they murdered her mom and shot the dad.

@heavenlypiss the only thing that's wrong was that the father wasn't murdered. They tried, they murdered her mom and shot the dad.

i see so many people saying her dad was a racist... he's not? Her family was an asian family and her boyfriend is asian (im not too sure, i got to nervous and stopped watching but the photo they offered of him appears asian.) The only difference would be where they were from! It is literally impossible to be racist to a country. There is no specific race in a country. Saying: "I hate brazil" is not racism because there are people of different races in brazil. SO please stop hating on this man for being racist <33 do remember that this guy was MURDERED by his own daughter because they found out she faked her grades, collage acceptances, job and how her life was! Stop defending her! No one is good in this story!

(please correct me if im wrong!)

@Edenbulte so you still want to blame them? Because she turned out that way doesn't mean her parents were at fault, or are you saying that all killers are made that way by the parents?

@Edenbulte so you still want to blame them? Because she turned out that way doesn't mean her parents were at fault, or are you saying that all killers are made that way by the parents?

@muttley jones2 you’re right. Whatever they did isn’t enough to justify her actions. I think what @Tasty Noodle meant to say is that her parents aren’t 100% innocent in this. If they were, she wouldn’t have done what she did. It’s not like she’s a naturally born monster who decided to get her parents killed for absolutely no reason. They’re partly to blame for how things turned out. But yes, she did take things too far, which is obviously why she’s under arrest and her father isn’t.

@Orbit wtf are you talking about, seriously. her boyfriend was also asian, he was chinese filipino

@Orbit wtf are you talking about, seriously. her boyfriend was also asian, he was chinese filipino

@Tasty Noodle Very nice , but what do you have to say her parents are at fault? Whatever they did wasn't enough to be blamed for this.

@Tasty Noodle Very nice , but what do you have to say her parents are at fault? Whatever they did wasn't enough to be blamed for this.

@Tasty Noodle What has your fairytale got to do with anything, except showing us how you feel about law enforcement?

@Tasty Noodle What has your fairytale got to do with anything, except showing us how you feel about law enforcement?

@Tasty Noodle Yes but you don't know that's what happened here. You're making it up from her comments. How can you believe one word from her?

@Tasty Noodle Yes but you don't know that's what happened here. You're making it up from her comments. How can you believe one word from her?

@muttley jones2 Beside a person childhood is very important for their growth.
They can become fucked up if the parents messes up.

Eg. If you don't show a child what "love" is. They the child also doesn't know "love". They will feel nothing toward their parents cuz that's how the parents treated them.
Another eg. Children actually mimic their environment and people around them. If the environment doesn't teach them value of life. The children will not learn value of life.
It's hard to explain.
You can find vids by professional on child psychology and their growth.
A child mind is very delicate, they are always learning and observing.

If the parents figure and environment they grow in is fucked up. Then they will not become healthy fictional adults.

Many children who grow up in abusive family become sociopath. They show no remorse when a life is killed. And they will show no remorse then they kill their Abuser aka. Shitty parent figure. They won't feel sad when someone dies.

This is what I meant by. The parents basically made a sociopath.
She grew up in a unhealthy environment made by the parent and grew up to be fucked up person.

If you kick the dog everyday then eventually the dog will bite you.

No one is defending the girls action.
It's just that tye parents kinda had it coming
Pretty sure you get happy when a child get raped by the adult figure if their life.

Oh! It's the child fault if the child takes revenge or retaliate in self defense.
I mean she hurt the ~parents~ blah blah
The shitty parents are now suddenly saint.
As if they never traumatized the child and gave her mental scar deep enough

Oh fuvk off

@muttley jones2 Let's make a similar scenario with this vid but containing rape.

A girl got raped. She somehow survived. She lives in a more "traditional" society where victim are blamed when they get raped. Thus she cannot complain to police. Cuz : A) She would get shamed and outcasted.
B) high chances the police are also curropted and bigoted thus her case might go under the rug.

She is filled with rage for what they did to her. She will never be the same girl she was. And thus wanted to take revenge.
She kills the guy aka.the rapist.

Now who would you say is in the right?
The girl who killed the guy as revenge
Or the guy who ruined her life.

In this case, because I am a female and by my personal bias. I would say the what the girl did is right even though she killed.

Now, let's see this case in this vid.

The parent got a child.
They treated her badly. Ruined her mental health and made her crazy.
To the point she does self harm like cutting herself and suicidal thoughts.
They did what could be consider abuse if reported.
Her being a child and under their control couldn't retaliate properly.
Filled with hatred toward the parents for what they did.
She will never be a normal child.
As a adult that hate doesn't go away also she is crazy now.
Thus she takes a revenge.

What she did is not necessarily right. But parents were not Saint either.

@muttley jones2 yeah many time charges for child abuse are went unknown cuz of gaslighting, manipulation and child being well a child.
They are only know after the child commits suicide if lucky

Just like many rape cases after arranged marriage and abuse cases in household.
They are hard to find.

Though I am sure if cases were put against these parents then they would be charged for abusing their child.

@VIVA LA MIGRA CABRONES It's not funny to joke about racism man.... I was being serious about that.

@VIVA LA MIGRA CABRONES It's not funny to joke about racism man.... I was being serious about that.

@Tasty Noodle what charges were ever brought against her parents? If they were abusers they should have been brought before the court at some time surely?

@Tasty Noodle what charges were ever brought against her parents? If they were abusers they should have been brought before the court at some time surely?

@muttley jones2 oh if that's your argument then the girl was also a victim.
First a victim now a murderer.
The girl a abused by the parent till her mind was broken and now she attacked back the Abuser.
None of which would have happened if they treat her like normal child and not a trophy.
Beside no one is trying to justify her crime.  It's just the parent kinda had it coming.
Like if you slap a person, then high chances the person will slap back.

Don't even bring rape victim blaming into this. They are totally different topic which is related to sexism.

To me people like you are the problem.

It's like blaming the girl for fighting back and accidentally killing the rapist.
None of which would have happened if the rapist didn't tried to rape her!

According to your logic, it's the girl fault cuz she killed the abuser/attacker/rapist.
No wonder society is so problematic.

@Tasty Noodle Oh, I understand now. She killed them out of respect. I get it now, lmao!

@Tasty Noodle Oh, I understand now. She killed them out of respect. I get it now, lmao!

@muttley jones2 Asian culture.
In Asian society family is considered very important whether the child loves their parent or vice versa doesn't matter.
It's not very easy to move out unlike West for various reason.
You will face alot of problems if you do so....
Alot of emotional abuse, gaslighting etc are involved. Even in "normal" family they can be found to some degree.

Beating is quite common also. Sandle, belt, chain, wooden stick are used.
Cold water is dumped. You are locked outside of your house when you are like 10y.o...
Some parent are quite over the top also...
They will literally put CCTV in your room to watch your each an every action. And you will get punishment if you don't satisfy them.
Getting good grade is not something child is praised for...like a kid who gets C won't be praised for getting A after hardwork. Some people are not academically gifted afterall.

You have 0 life outside of school and home. Many will even force you to go to multiple tuitions then study. Denying enjoyment and rest. The only rest you get is sleep....

Though they provide you with money food and shelter. You are not allowed or given opportunity to take part time job. Every money you get is from you parents and they watch over how you spend it. And bad family will punish you for buying storybooks or game or things they consider irrelevant.
Since you are shelter your whole life without any opportunity or time to explore. It's like making a caged animal set free in wild without any prior teaching on hunting etc.
The animal will die.
You have 0 life skills.
Also your environment/society reacts in hostile manner to such disowned children. Unless you are lucky....

And more.
There are many cultural nuances that might be hard for a westerner to know.
But I hope some I mentioned above is useful on understanding why your solution is far fetched for many people.

@Orbit  They may have been abusive but that is still no excuse for murder. I would rather be emotionally abused than murdered. They are not “just as bad as her” they were bad for abusing her but she was worse for what she did to them.

@Orbit  They may have been abusive but that is still no excuse for murder. I would rather be emotionally abused than murdered. They are not “just as bad as her” they were bad for abusing her but she was worse for what she did to them.

@winxergle She lied about all of that because she was scared of her parents and what they would do to her if she had told the truth. She made a lie that could benefit her, so would lying about how you thought your parents were bad people benefit you in a murder investigation of your parents? No.

Jennifer doesn't just lie about anything and if she did, that could possibly mean she's a psychopath or something else, but she's not so my point is, Liars only lie when they have  a reason to do so otherwise it's pointless.

@winxergleIf you were paying attention to the final interview or at least paying attention to what I've been saying, there was no reason for her to lie about that at the time.. think about that, "at the time". She had a reason to lie about it and say they were racist at the end of the interview, but not at the start of it of the interview because she thought the investigator didn't know she did it, and she thought they were believing her... So why would she lie to make them look bad when she's trying to show that they're a normal family house..... Just listen to what I'm saying for a moment because I've said this 10 times.

@Orbit jenn wants them to see her as innocent. she doesnt want to be caught. sometimes, looking innocent means trying to make yourself pitiable or making the people around you seem worse. its not that absurd to think she would lie about them being racist.

@Orbit jenn wants them to see her as innocent. she doesnt want to be caught. sometimes, looking innocent means trying to make yourself pitiable or making the people around you seem worse. its not that absurd to think she would lie about them being racist.

@Jk i I'd rather be abused than murdered and I'm sure more people besides me agree with that notion. You make it seem as if everybody should agree with your dubious argument but that is highly speculative.

@Jk i I'd rather be abused than murdered and I'm sure more people besides me agree with that notion. You make it seem as if everybody should agree with your dubious argument but that is highly speculative.

@Jk i So you feel worse for the murderer than for the abuser? Okay. Makes sense. No sarcasm.

@Jk i So you feel worse for the murderer than for the abuser? Okay. Makes sense. No sarcasm.

@muttley jones2 that's not how it works in Asian cultures your family is the most important thing and nothing is more important than them

@muttley jones2 that's not how it works in Asian cultures your family is the most important thing and nothing is more important than them

@Gary but the 'r' is silent perpetrator or not she was abused by her parents  I dont have sympathy for them I feel bad for her but she shouldn't have killed them

@Gary but the 'r' is silent perpetrator or not she was abused by her parents  I dont have sympathy for them I feel bad for her but she shouldn't have killed them

@raiden if your not Asian then this sounds fine but in Asian cultures family is everything

@raiden if your not Asian then this sounds fine but in Asian cultures family is everything

@Katykatchan 💟 I'm just giving my opinion on a situation, and stating my argument for why the parents are just as bad as the girl.

@Katykatchan 💟 I'm just giving my opinion on a situation, and stating my argument for why the parents are just as bad as the girl.

@Orbit Bruh you need like a hobby or something besides writing essays on YouTube trying to defend a murderer who you don’t even really know.

@Orbit Bruh you need like a hobby or something besides writing essays on YouTube trying to defend a murderer who you don’t even really know.

@Vee da Vendetta You never assume randomly, that is correct. But what was shown in the video is manipulation, and use of psychology to get what the investigator wants to hear. Let's say the investigator want a reason for a murder, the investigator will use manipulation to get that out of them. And that's what happened with Jennifer.

Half of the investigators whole job is to do stuff like this.... but I guess they could have just lied meaning, investigators are useless well that sucks.. Just think about what you're saying. You clearly learned nothing about psychology, You clearly don't know anything about what investigators do, and you're on a crime investigation channel?? I bet you didn't even know that there was a difference from when someone told a lie, to when someone told the truth. And you still pretend you know something about psychology???

 Anyways sorry for all of that... I got a bit angered from your response, just listen and try to understand what I said with a open mind? ok?

@Orbit thousands of children everyday get trapped in abusive homes...trapped...nobody believes them...and they are stuck...heres the problem with everything ur saying...ima take it even deeper. The girl knew what she did was wrong. She never tried to justify her parents murder...just shift blame from herself. She could have lied about every word she said bro...how would u know? Ur just assuming...and we never assume in psychology

@Vee da Vendetta I'm sorry to hear what you have went through, truly... abuse is no joke. But do you know why she faked her grades? Do you know why she lied about her school? Do you know why she cut herself? Do you know why she tried to kill herself at 19? It's because of abuse... just because abuse is normal in some cultures doesn't give you the excuse to down play real and hard abuse, I have no clue why anyone would ever think that. Some people can't handle abuse for their whole life, and sometimes they break down. Just because other people got through extremely bad abuse, doesn't mean it's wrong for others who couldn't handle it to break down.

 And the murder of the parents wasn't because they didn't want there daughter to see a mixed race man, it was because of constant abuse of a young girls whole life, that lead up to her finally breaking down.

@Orbit I’m saying I have experienced monstrous parents from being close friends with their daughters. I am very protective and obviously very biased towards them. If they murdered their parents, I still don’t think I would know who is worse and that is when I am highly emotionally involved and personally know the parents as well. So I honestly couldn’t say who would be worse for people I don’t know.<br>You don’t have to respond, I just wanted to clarify what I meant because you said you didn’t really understand.

@Orbit I’m saying I have experienced monstrous parents from being close friends with their daughters. I am very protective and obviously very biased towards them. If they murdered their parents, I still don’t think I would know who is worse and that is when I am highly emotionally involved and personally know the parents as well. So I honestly couldn’t say who would be worse for people I don’t know.
You don’t have to respond, I just wanted to clarify what I meant because you said you didn’t really understand.

@Annabella LeForce I don't want to downplay what you saw others go through, I'm very sorry about that, but people are different from one another in some ways. Jennifer was just less adapted to emotional abuse than your friends.

I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to say but this is my response, I'm tired of writing every 3 seconds..

@Annabella LeForce I don't want to downplay what you saw others go through, I'm very sorry about that, but people are different from one another in some ways. Jennifer was just less adapted to emotional abuse than your friends.

I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to say but this is my response, I'm tired of writing every 3 seconds..

@Orbit I don’t whether or not they were just as bad. I don’t know them personally. And I don’t know how to judge who would be worse or if they would be equal.
I personally know people who were much much worse than that to their kids. One of those kids was my best friend who ended up moving in with me to get away from them. If one of their kids ended being a psycho murdered that did that to them and showed no remorse.. I don’t know. What both of the parents did to the kids were terrible but, the father was technically worse. The thing is the the mother showed no remorse but, the father did. I still think of the mother as worse because she has never taken back her actions and enables the father. If one of the kids murdered both of them in cold blood and showed no remorse, I still would have no idea.
So after knowing, actually growing up with them and being super close to the family, people who were worse than their kids than her parents (and yes, they were much much worse, I’m not over exaggerating) I still wouldn’t be able to say. Other people will have definitive opinion, I’m sure. I just can’t form one and it honestly puts me through physical pain trying to think about it. I understand what you’re saying though and I understand your point.

@Annabella LeForce Well that means you agree with me and some other people here. The parents were just as bad as the daughter.

@Annabella LeForce Well that means you agree with me and some other people here. The parents were just as bad as the daughter.

@Orbit I am confused by your phrasing but, yes I think so lol

@Orbit I am confused by your phrasing but, yes I think so lol

@Annabella LeForce Well that was at least the point I was trying to get across, do you understand my point then?

@Annabella LeForce Well that was at least the point I was trying to get across, do you understand my point then?

@Orbit Most of the people in this comment section are saying the parents are terrible but, they don’t deserve the violent response. That’s what I said in my original comment.

@Orbit Most of the people in this comment section are saying the parents are terrible but, they don’t deserve the violent response. That’s what I said in my original comment.

@Lara Reis That's just completely dubious, what you are saying is mere speculation solely based on emotions and presumptions. You first of all presume that no child would ever kill their parents if they were good parents. These are simply absolutes backed without any evidence and I bet that I could find you multiple cases that would point to the contrary. I remember a boy just killing his mother with an axe because he "felt like it". Your argument is basically 'Lying about her parents being abusive/racist etc. would only make her suspicious and therefore she didn't lie'. First of all, you don't know her thinking process. Second of all, there's also a good argument to be made for her to lie or exaggerate about her parents being abusive. Like someone else pointed out, there's an equally likely possibility she is trying to justify/rationalize/excuse her plans of killing her parents. Whether it'd be for sympathy or a justification we don't know. By the way, that Orbit guy doesn't make 'a lot of sense' at all. When you call nonsense like that sense you already look foolish from the first sentence.

@Annabella LeForce You Just explained legit everyone's point in your own argument. The parents are bad just like the daughter...

@Annabella LeForce You Just explained legit everyone's point in your own argument. The parents are bad just like the daughter...

@Lara Reis Well, at least you understood that one.

@Lara Reis Well, at least you understood that one.

@muttley jones2 oh yeah, a missing “e”. thanks for once again noticing an unimportant detail about the discussion.

@muttley jones2 oh yeah, a missing “e”. thanks for once again noticing an unimportant detail about the discussion.

@Lara Reis By the way, it's "morale" not "moral", they mean two very different things, just saying, lol.

@Lara Reis By the way, it's "morale" not "moral", they mean two very different things, just saying, lol.

@Nisha       Not every word I say has to counter your argument. Her decision was planned and malicious. That was the point of me saying that she wasn’t defending herself.

I didn’t say that other people were trying to justify was she did in my original response. You mentioned that. That’s why I brought that up. Someone said they literally do not care about the father. People were debating whether or not her father is racist or not when that has nothing to do with it. My original reply was not rebutting any in particular comment. And I was not referring to just this reply section, I was referring to all of them. There are many replies on different comments where a lot of people are saying he deserved it. People were frustrating me with their arguments over pointless things like whether or not he’s racist and people were accusing others of saying her decision was justified or it wasn’t. So I gave my opinion.

@Annabella LeForce

 @Bella LeForce  i dont understand an ounce of what you are getting at.
In your agrument you again mention "justifying" for no reason at all...Who said that the two abuses cancel out?

You seem to interpret that the mere acknowledgement and even a shred of sympathy if directed towards the girl and the abuse she has been through, would be a declaration of her father "deserving" to be murdered...which Nobody said.And it's  not true.

She didn't  defend herself,okay.What is the point of saying this?I never said she defended herself.Im just saying the event in the past played a significant role in shaping her to be the person she is which is true for literally every human alive on this planet.
Which you seem to equate to me saying" she's actually a good person"...I never said she was a good person but the discussion  going on here is about how she came to be a bad person.
What series of events and what ways of her thought process led to this horrendous conclusion and crime.
And why did you write about asking the judges,etc and her being in jail.What point were you trying to rebutt from my initial comment.I am genuienly confused how it went in that direction?

@Nisha I didn’t say anything about justifying it. Did I say she was born a psycho? No. Did I dismiss the abuse she went through? No, I didn’t.

I don’t care what other people believe; you can’t justify an act(s) of abuse with another act of abuse. She wasn’t defending herself. She made a violent, terrible decision. Now other people have to live with the consequences of her decision and that is a bad thing. That’s why she’s in jail. Duh. Talk to the cops who arrested her, the judge, the prosecutor. They’d all say the same thing.

@muttley jones2 you didn’t specify who and since I’m not lying and Jennifer is the only related to the topic of lying, that’s the obvious choice anyone would think of lol. Again, I didn’t said she said her parents were “evil”, I said she created a storyline that implied that. Why are you even focusing on this irrelevant detail? Omg. Is that a way to say you have no reasonable argument to the real discussion and would rather focus on complete nonsense to keep your moral up?

@Lara Reis You find things difficult to understand don't you. I never said she was lying, I said you lied. Try to keep up.

@Lara Reis You find things difficult to understand don't you. I never said she was lying, I said you lied. Try to keep up.

@Orbit I understand what she might have been through and i have been in the same situation.In non-asian countries kids show this deviant behaviour because they veiw the rest of the kids enjoying normal life and see the same on media as well.Here,where I live in South Asia most students in a situation similar to herself just hang them selves with a suicide note thanking their parents.It's because this is how the society here is and how media and your household makes you believe parents can and should do whatever.People would go as far as to claim that it's okay to take one's child's life because you were the one who gave them the life to begin with while phyically and emotionally abusing their own kids.
I dont know about vietnam in particular but there clearly was some fault,even if you wish to acknowledge it as the tiniest part,of her parents in the very tragic incident that took place.

@muttley jones2 who said she was lying, dude? That’s the whole point. Lmao do you even remember what we were discussing?

@muttley jones2 who said she was lying, dude? That’s the whole point. Lmao do you even remember what we were discussing?

@muttley jones2 oh my god. Can you please tell me how it changes, then? It doesn’t. She never said “evil”, but made clear description of her parents being abusive. How would that benefit her in the case? It wouldn’t. It would just do the opposite. It changes nothing.

@muttley jones2 oh my god. Can you please tell me how it changes, then? It doesn’t. She never said “evil”, but made clear description of her parents being abusive. How would that benefit her in the case? It wouldn’t. It would just do the opposite. It changes nothing.

@Lara Reis SMH. You agree she never said what you made up but still can't be wrong can you? That's funny and just goes to prove exactly what I knew all along about you. "I'm wrong but it changes nothing, I'm still right" lmao.

@Lara Reis SMH. You agree she never said what you made up but still can't be wrong can you? That's funny and just goes to prove exactly what I knew all along about you. "I'm wrong but it changes nothing, I'm still right" lmao.

@muttley jones2 it wasn’t ridiculous. You’re not getting anywhere. “Oh she never said her parents are evil”, ok boo, whatever, that changes nothing about the argument, even though that’s what she implied. She talked bad about her parents and that only makes her involvement more suspicious.

@muttley jones2 it wasn’t ridiculous. You’re not getting anywhere. “Oh she never said her parents are evil”, ok boo, whatever, that changes nothing about the argument, even though that’s what she implied. She talked bad about her parents and that only makes her involvement more suspicious.

@Lara Reis Hey, making comments that are ridiculous and then deleting them doesn't completely remove them you know? I just read it and it makes no sense. Are you sure you were replying to something I said or something you thought I said?

@Lara Reis Hey, making comments that are ridiculous and then deleting them doesn't completely remove them you know? I just read it and it makes no sense. Are you sure you were replying to something I said or something you thought I said?

@Orbit you think you're in a better place to judge her parents? She never said it, but you know? Right, lmao.

@Orbit you think you're in a better place to judge her parents? She never said it, but you know? Right, lmao.

@muttley jones2 No one is making up any version of anything, we're being honest.

Jennifer never said her parents are evil but from what we can see, they are evil. It's like making a point without exactly jumping to it, You can say you're ugly without really saying it.

@muttley jones2 No one is making up any version of anything, we're being honest.

Jennifer never said her parents are evil but from what we can see, they are evil. It's like making a point without exactly jumping to it, You can say you're ugly without really saying it.

@Lara Reis She never said that her parents are evil. People like you who read or watch something and then make up your own version without regard to what happened, came up with that.

@Lara Reis She never said that her parents are evil. People like you who read or watch something and then make up your own version without regard to what happened, came up with that.

@muttley jones2 why would she lie about THAT? Creating a storyline where her parents are evil would only add up to her involvement on the crime. Have you never met conservative parents? Do you really think them being racist is that out of the extraordinary? The detective did a wonderful job and talked her into assuming how miserable her parents made her life be, which does nothing but incriminates her.

@muttley jones2 why would she lie about THAT? Creating a storyline where her parents are evil would only add up to her involvement on the crime. Have you never met conservative parents? Do you really think them being racist is that out of the extraordinary? The detective did a wonderful job and talked her into assuming how miserable her parents made her life be, which does nothing but incriminates her.

@Lara Reis And you believe this because Jennifer said so? Realy? How can you take something that she said and rely on it being the truth? Her life for at least six or seven years was a complete lie.

@Lara Reis And you believe this because Jennifer said so? Realy? How can you take something that she said and rely on it being the truth? Her life for at least six or seven years was a complete lie.

@muttley jones2 it is literally mentioned that the parents didn’t like the new boyfriend right away because he was mixed race.

@muttley jones2 it is literally mentioned that the parents didn’t like the new boyfriend right away because he was mixed race.

Can you imagine what he must have thought when he heard her voice answer his cries? By that time he knew his wife was dead, he was badly wounded, that his own daughter had planned it all and that he was left in the house with her.

Can you imagine what he must have thought when he heard her voice answer his cries? By that time he knew his wife was dead, he was badly wounded, that his own daughter had planned it all and that he was left in the house with her.

@Orbit If she didn't like the rules, move out. Don't be a baby all her life.

@Orbit If she didn't like the rules, move out. Don't be a baby all her life.

@Orbit Why was he a racist, where did that come from? I love the way you people throw that word around when somebody does something you don't like even when it has nothing to do with race. You're so twisted up that you feel bad for the murderer but not the victim. SMH.

@Orbit Why was he a racist, where did that come from? I love the way you people throw that word around when somebody does something you don't like even when it has nothing to do with race. You're so twisted up that you feel bad for the murderer but not the victim. SMH.

@Orbit you make a lot of sense. People are blinded to the fact of the horrible thing the girl did. It doesn’t change the fact that their parents were extremely abusive. Nobody’s children would ever hurt their parents if they were good parents. Of course Jennifer went over the edge, most of us wouldn’t even consider this horrific solution, STILL doesn’t change the fact that they were abusive.

@Orbit you make a lot of sense. People are blinded to the fact of the horrible thing the girl did. It doesn’t change the fact that their parents were extremely abusive. Nobody’s children would ever hurt their parents if they were good parents. Of course Jennifer went over the edge, most of us wouldn’t even consider this horrific solution, STILL doesn’t change the fact that they were abusive.

@Omoshiroi!! A monster created another monster. simple as that

@Omoshiroi!! A monster created another monster. simple as that

@黑化肥挥发发灰会挥发 I agree, none of this was good.

@黑化肥挥发发灰会挥发 I agree, none of this was good.

@Orbit her parents love for her was just as wrong as her decision to murder them. This is just a sad story from beginning to end

@Orbit her parents love for her was just as wrong as her decision to murder them. This is just a sad story from beginning to end

@Gary but the 'r' is silent Also the abuse from what I can see is pretty much guaranteed to be true. In the start of the third investigation, the investigator was trying to find a motive behind/reason to commit the crime, this is done by looking at the relationship between the victim and the suspect. He found Jennifer to have a clear reason to commit the crime. (The abuse and the separation from her boyfriend was the reason behind it) And if that was a lie then the whole reasoning in why Jennifer is even apart of the murder, wouldn't make sense, and there would be cracks in her story that the investigator would catch onto, and pick at until she gave up a real reason, but this was pretty clear cut. She even gave a detailed description of how she would cut herself. Also again like before, there is no reason at all for Jennifer to lie about this at the time. At this time Jennifer was trying to look innocent so there's no reason to lie about evidence that could be used against her.

In other words, saying that video evidence is needed means that number 1. Half of the investigator's whole job would be useless because "you don't really know if she was abused or not unless there's video evidence or if the father admits it himself right?" 2. Her clear and only reason to ever commit murder could be a lie so let's not believe it.

Sorry for this being so long, I tried to give a more detailed explanation. I hope this helps you hear out my point better.

@Gary but the 'r' is silent Yes but what actions does she have to justify to the investigator at the time? At that time she's trying to seem like she's a sweet girl who did nothing wrong, so why would she lie about that? That's why I said it's logical to believe it's true. Do you get it?

@Gary but the 'r' is silent Yes but what actions does she have to justify to the investigator at the time? At that time she's trying to seem like she's a sweet girl who did nothing wrong, so why would she lie about that? That's why I said it's logical to believe it's true. Do you get it?

@Orbit I don't know why you would gloss over her calling him a racist so easily to be honest. It's not really a ludicrous thought that she would do or say anything to demonize him in order to rationalize/justify her own actions in my opinion, I don't understand why you call it 'logical' to assume it to be true.

You probably know a lot more about the case than I do,  I would just take most I read online with a grain of salt. You seem to hold a really strong position in this but ultimately you don't really know if she was abused or not unless there's video evidence or if the father admits it himself right?

@Gary but the 'r' is silent I get your point but even still, it was confirmed that she went through abuse. That part wasn't something she just said and it turned out to be a lie... that was confirmed. What wasn't confirmed was that the father was racist, but from easy logic you can understand that she probably didn't lie about that. And I can't believe you ignored fact that this man abused a girl mentally for all her life until she almost killed herself because he's going through pain right now.... you're not thinking straight man.

Man, people sure do have a strong opinion on people they have never met or talked to lol. It's well known that the internet is a catalyst when it comes to apathy but some comments here just take the cake. Imagine saying/thinking that you don't feel bad for some person that lost his family based on anecdotes originating primarily from the perpetrator. Cold and twisted world we live in sometimes.

Man, people sure do have a strong opinion on people they have never met or talked to lol. It's well known that the internet is a catalyst when it comes to apathy but some comments here just take the cake. Imagine saying/thinking that you don't feel bad for some person that lost his family based on anecdotes originating primarily from the perpetrator. Cold and twisted world we live in sometimes.

@Kennie005 Yes this is the point I was trying to get at, both sides are bad. I think I may have came off a little bit more on Jennifer's side but that was my mistake.

@Kennie005 Yes this is the point I was trying to get at, both sides are bad. I think I may have came off a little bit more on Jennifer's side but that was my mistake.

@PASISpinelli And you guys are still on the subject of the boyfriend and ignoring the bigger picture. No one points out what those people did to Jennifer when she was just a kid all the way up to her adult years... No one will acknowledge the facts, everyone will keep thinking with their heart.

@PASISpinelli And you guys are still on the subject of the boyfriend and ignoring the bigger picture. No one points out what those people did to Jennifer when she was just a kid all the way up to her adult years... No one will acknowledge the facts, everyone will keep thinking with their heart.

@PASISpinelli With this logic I can say that at the very least, she could have been partially truthful I mean.. why would she lie about that anyway? Isn't her goal at this point in time to look like she cares about her parents and look loyal to them? Why would she purposely lie about something that makes it harder for her?

@PASISpinelli With this logic I can say that at the very least, she could have been partially truthful I mean.. why would she lie about that anyway? Isn't her goal at this point in time to look like she cares about her parents and look loyal to them? Why would she purposely lie about something that makes it harder for her?

@PASISpinelli I mean considering what we have confirmed about her family, it's probably true, although I will admit your point here, I do not know with 100% accuracy what goes on in that house. But we can both make assumptions with what we know and also restate what we know.

@PASISpinelli I mean considering what we have confirmed about her family, it's probably true, although I will admit your point here, I do not know with 100% accuracy what goes on in that house. But we can both make assumptions with what we know and also restate what we know.

@Orbit Ah yes, because Jenn is such a reliable source of info lol<br>Stop making excuses

@Orbit Ah yes, because Jenn is such a reliable source of info lol
Stop making excuses

@Chetan Uniyal (side note) She was 24 at this time, a grown woman and her parents were worried about her dating a man because of his race? Man that's just stupid. 51:33 Is the part where this was mentioned.

@Chetan Uniyal (side note) She was 24 at this time, a grown woman and her parents were worried about her dating a man because of his race? Man that's just stupid. 51:33 Is the part where this was mentioned.

@Chetan Uniyal I never meant that, the main reason her parents didn't accept him was because of race, as stated in the video. And the parents probably didn't know that he was a drug dealer when they first met because how would that information just slip? so they couldn't make a opinion on that. And if you were listening, the biggest problem in this was how the parents pushed a young girl to try and kill herself more than once in her life (at 19 by the way) and no one is talking about that?? Like both sides are bad here, stop taking this old racist mans defense.

@raiden Also I'm not trying to say that trying to kill them was the right option, I'm just saying that we can't make her dad look like such a sad kind man. She was hurt mentally for all her life by her parents and that was the soul reason in all of this.

@raiden Also I'm not trying to say that trying to kill them was the right option, I'm just saying that we can't make her dad look like such a sad kind man. She was hurt mentally for all her life by her parents and that was the soul reason in all of this.

@raiden Yeah but think about being a grown woman and not having a father or mother in your life because you want a boyfriend.... By that time in your life people could be thinking about getting married but no. She's being forced to choose between thrown on the street with no money or anything just because she wants to live a normal life. And that's one example of what was probably going on in that horrid house, didn't the girl say she use to cut herself and explained how she tried to kill herself at 19? Could you imagine why? Why would a "kind and kinda strict" father allow that... yeah because he's not.

@𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐡 :] I'm not trying to be different, I'm trying to be serious. Her father wasn't a very moral man

@𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐚𝐡 :] I'm not trying to be different, I'm trying to be serious. Her father wasn't a very moral man

@Orbit i missed the part where it stated her father was a racist? and even if he was restrictive she had the choice to leave and do what she wanted.

@Orbit i missed the part where it stated her father was a racist? and even if he was restrictive she had the choice to leave and do what she wanted.

her father was a cruel racist, I don't care about him and I feel bad for the girl.

her father was a cruel racist, I don't care about him and I feel bad for the girl.

Yeah, honestly when I was listening to that, I had it in my head she might go over to him and finish the job so that he wouldn’t survive (I, not knowing that she was tied up at that point). I was scared for him.

Yeah, honestly when I was listening to that, I had it in my head she might go over to him and finish the job so that he wouldn’t survive (I, not knowing that she was tied up at that point). I was scared for him.


Moral of the story: It's perfectly fine to get a C- average, but you probably shouldn't hatch a plot for murder with a C- average

@Panacea(* IQ is abritrary in terms of intellect too

@Panacea(* IQ is abritrary in terms of intellect too

@Boopy Doopy oooh! Me! Me! <b>Waves hand in the air obnoxiously</b> 'A lot of chickens as in loads..' Beams at the teacher...I was a teacher's pet.😆😆😆🤷

@Boopy Doopy oooh! Me! Me! *Waves hand in the air obnoxiously* 'A lot of chickens as in loads..' Beams at the teacher...I was a teacher's pet.😆😆😆🤷

We had a President with c’s throughout high school soo grades don’t really matter George bush btw

She showed a fake murder planning degree to the accomplices.  They should have checked with the issuing institution.

@Me 2 seems like an accurate amount, although I thought it'd be at least 7 or 8.

@Me 2 seems like an accurate amount, although I thought it'd be at least 7 or 8.

@Manuel P  And I would urge you to learn about the laws of other countries AND the possible mentality of a commenter who is from a country that doesn't help you in a case of mental abuse. If you don't care that's fine, nobody can't comprehend everything.

@Boopy Doopy are we talking about the chicken’s from Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time? Cause those bastards are unforgiving cold blooded murderers who know no fear.

@Mythos Infinite You're right about IQ being a fairly arbitrary measure of someone's intellectual capabilities. The word intellect and its conjugations are vague to begin with. But putting that aside, the case in point I wanted to relate from my own experience: my intellectual development has been professionally examined 4 times in my life (I might say 'so far', but I don't imagine it will be a priority anytime soon - that is, since I've been out of school).

This was the real deal, multiple sessions spread over weeks - the first time I didn't know what the hell it was all about, since I was a 7 year old boy who didn't care at all for studying, and school was just a place to have fun with classmates (social relief which could not be overshadowed by the slight guilt I felt about constantly distracting my classmates from their studies, which they seemed to take more seriously - God I'm being unnecessarily self-absorbed with this tale ain't I?).

However, putting aside all the little things that are now nostalgically coming back to me ;p, the first relevant thing that I remember, waking me up to what was going on, was getting a report. Now things became important because I knew I would be judged by my parents, but I saw this as a positive thing because I had confidence in my intellectual abilities at 7, and this would be a new opportunity to be deemed worthy of my parents'  pride. They made sure to keep my pride in check, but I was still content since the report stated that my IQ put me in the range of, informally speaking, a 'boy genius' and I would soon start attending a 'better' school which was equipped to deal with 'gifted', but especially bored - 'overqualified' if you will - kids.

I hadn't heard of IQ scores before, but it was now important to me. - I know this is probably way too long but I'm just trying something here; adding psychological context since it may or may not be deemed relevant or interesting in connection to my main point (and anyone's free to ignore my online existence altogether as far as I care ;p), which is: although I got similarly thorough examinations 3 more times (at different locations/institutes including 2 hospitals, but I trust they were equal in their assessment capabilities - the routine felt familiar pretty soon even though it was years apart each time); My IQ scores were completely unstable, to put it one way. Especially during a period of my life where I was emotionally in a bad place, my IQ score sunk to 17 points below my score as a 7 year old. And they had told me back then, that it would only grow. It wasn't that I wasn't trying; in fact I wished all the more to succeed - but I was so lacking in self-respect, that I had automatically already given up, and given in to frustration, telling myself I was going to end up with a 'bad' score anyway because I just sucked as a person (at least those were my convictions then) and especially because I simultaneously would never accept 'sucking as a person' or in other words being inadequate.

That was the 3rd examination, at 15. The second one, performed at 12 years old, had shown a promising increase of my score from 139 to 144. The third put me at 122 (I was gutted, and too embarrassed to even look the examiner in the eyes as she relayed the whole report to myself with my mother there). I had improved psychologically by the time I was last tested, but still came up just shy of my first score. 137 this time, and I certainly did (and do) still suffer from a performance anxiety that I did not have during those first two tests.
I've since completely dropped any sense of importance of IQ to me personally. I do not see it as a valuable assessment of who I am, and what my capabilities really are.

@AInmon this is the true big brain answer

@AInmon this is the true big brain answer

@Panacea(* "You can have a high IQ with low achievement,  although you would not see the reverse-- low IQ with high achievement" - not entirely true. I've graduated mechatronic engineering at one of the top UTs in the country yet I have to be reminded at least twice how to do my job and how everything really works when doing really menial, simple shit, for instance when making a stocktaking report at some store, and I'm still making a shitload of errors while doing it.

Yes.  I fear the ones who don't get found out.  I sometimes think that these are our politicians and bankers.  They are smart enough to shield themselves.  Sadly, the best criminals are the ones who don't get caught.

@Quetzalcoatl Your victim blaming is on insane levels. I cannot comprehend how you feel sympathy for her and are trying to justify her actions (which you obviously fail to accomplish). I urge you to rethink your moral compass.

@Jack Wilson
My funny internet joke does not reflect my complete worldview, so I am aware of this

I'm very tired of sending this. I guess I don't really have to, but I wish people would stop assuming things and angrily sending "akshuwally" comments on a hair-thin trigger.

@Panacea(* She's definitely not anywhere near intelligent with this scheme she plotted and how horrifically she tried to cover it up😂

@Boopy Doopy assuming the elephant is eating the chickens 400 would need to give there lives to pop its guts.<br>Ps this was odd math but is 2 am and I'm drunk

@Boopy Doopy assuming the elephant is eating the chickens 400 would need to give there lives to pop its guts.
Ps this was odd math but is 2 am and I'm drunk

Grades are about putting in work, not intellect. I had A to C grades and by the age of 20 I worked for military industrial complex on a huge project.

@1k which shitcoin did you gamble on and win? ethereum, link, or butt?

@1k which shitcoin did you gamble on and win? ethereum, link, or butt?

@Aaron <br>My funny internet joke does not reflect my complete worldview, so I am aware of this

@Aaron
My funny internet joke does not reflect my complete worldview, so I am aware of this

@1k okay, what do you get from lying to strangers on the internet?

@1k okay, what do you get from lying to strangers on the internet?

yeah man its very important you have an above average understanding of high school algebra if you want to murder someone

@Diego Campos <br>My funny internet joke does not reflect my complete worldview, so I am aware of this

@Diego Campos
My funny internet joke does not reflect my complete worldview, so I am aware of this

Yeah, because grades are such a great way of measuring intelligence.

Yeah, because grades are such a great way of measuring intelligence.

@JAUTsss bad kids are usually a result of bad parenting.

@JAUTsss bad kids are usually a result of bad parenting.

@Boopy Doopy prob a chicken thigh would do. Just take the bones out and make a good dagger of it.

@Roslyn :3 That depends largely on the curriculmn, the teachers and the student as an individual.

I never studied or put any effort into schooling outside of the time in class, which i often slept through anyway, yet I did reasonably well despite that (chose all the "hard" classes and consistently sat on a B+ or A-).
Natural ability/intuition only takes you so far and i know for a fact that my memory is complete dogshit, ergo i must have learnt quite a bit to do as well as i did.
I then coasted through about a year of university until my lack of study habits, and lack of interest for the course finally started to catch up with me.
Took up a trade instead which was far more mentally engaging

Obviously not true for everyone and every school but it depends.
The one thing i did learn through my own experience is that having the commitment and self discipline to study is a lot more important to your academic success than natural intelligence.

@1k I can guarantee you don't know where Sweden is on a map.

@1k I can guarantee you don't know where Sweden is on a map.

@1k and we all end up in a wood box 6ft deep

@1k and we all end up in a wood box 6ft deep

@Roslyn :3 Well, depends on a lot of factors but some can be.

@Roslyn :3 Well, depends on a lot of factors but some can be.

@Dev04 I feel like schools a lot more about memorization than actually learning. Like of course you learn that’s why I know 2+2 is 17 but still

Some students don't get poor grades because they're dumb, sometimes they just don't give a shit about school but are intelligent otherwise.

@JAUTsss <br>Absolutely a fact, parents like that are the worst. Gleefully murdering them is overboard but nobody should ever have to grow up with people like that.

@JAUTsss
Absolutely a fact, parents like that are the worst. Gleefully murdering them is overboard but nobody should ever have to grow up with people like that.

@1k why are you wasting time posting on youtube?

@1k why are you wasting time posting on youtube?

@GraveyardStation <br>My funny internet joke does not reflect my complete worldview, so I am aware of this

@GraveyardStation
My funny internet joke does not reflect my complete worldview, so I am aware of this

grades don't determine your intelligence for sure, buddy.

grades don't determine your intelligence for sure, buddy.

@1k After all these events are you and your boyfriend still together??

@1k After all these events are you and your boyfriend still together??

@1k Why do my Spaghetti-O's keep making lightning?

@1k Why do my Spaghetti-O's keep making lightning?

@Quetzalcoatl <br>For the best. Take care

@Mythos Infinite  Anyway, we agree to disagree.

@Mythos Infinite  Anyway, we agree to disagree.

@Quetzalcoatl <br>Not to make this about myself, but I was nearly homeless during that flunking period, and my manifestation of choosing to fight was to push myself into carving a better life for myself. I understand not everyone can do this, but the point is that I do understand being in that situation, and I still find her decision to be ignorant. Or, maybe, self-indulgent, if she found it to be more satisfying to engage in manslaughter. Either way I'm not capable of giving her any measure of empathy; she would have had my support had she tried any other method to escape her abuse than outright gleeful murder.

@Quetzalcoatl
Not to make this about myself, but I was nearly homeless during that flunking period, and my manifestation of choosing to fight was to push myself into carving a better life for myself. I understand not everyone can do this, but the point is that I do understand being in that situation, and I still find her decision to be ignorant. Or, maybe, self-indulgent, if she found it to be more satisfying to engage in manslaughter. Either way I'm not capable of giving her any measure of empathy; she would have had my support had she tried any other method to escape her abuse than outright gleeful murder.

@Mythos Infinite  It's desperation. Fight or flight. She chose to fight. If you ever find yourself given a pair of choice like that you'll understand. Normal people don't, but that's fine. Lack of comprehension and empathy.

@Quetzalcoatl <br>Her upbringing was worthy of sympathy, but I doubt she feared that her boyfriend would leave her -- considering how she trusted him enough to be an accomplice to murder. If she really didn't trust him, though, then making him a partner in crime was an even more stupid decision.

@Quetzalcoatl
Her upbringing was worthy of sympathy, but I doubt she feared that her boyfriend would leave her -- considering how she trusted him enough to be an accomplice to murder. If she really didn't trust him, though, then making him a partner in crime was an even more stupid decision.

@Mythos Infinite  The latter isn't ignorance, lifetime of brain pressure + uncertainty of future. What if her boyfriend ditched her and she is helpless and moneyless all of a sudden at some point? Her case was actually sad. This was no socio, no psycho, and not indifferent like that Casey Anthony.

I laughed (but I will add, standardized testing isn’t a good measure of intelligence)

I laughed (but I will add, standardized testing isn’t a good measure of intelligence)

@Panacea(* IQ is just as effective of a measure of intelligence as grades.  being able to dedicate yourself to an assignment you dont necessarily agree with is a very practical skill.  Being able to do well in unconventional tests under pressure is also a good skill.

@Panacea(*
Grades are not a direct indicator of actual intelligence (I flunked a good portion of my first year at Uni due to external influences and I wouldn't consider myself stupid), but an IQ score is roughly just as arbitrary. Mental ability has all sorts of nuances to it, and someone who can be incredibly good at the niche of problem solving can be horribly incompetent at calculating or planning. No matter what her scores on anything were, she plotted a murder scene where she walked around freely and didn't even pretend to be a victim, then continually gave inconsistent testimonies that were so bad she was put on the suspect list just for being too precise. One unknown home security system and she would've been done for, too.

Oh, that and she hatched a plot for murder when she was given the option to just run away with her boyfriend instead. That takes an impressive level of ignorance.

when you don't want to study for a class but you study hands movements for faking a phone call in a emergency situation in order to dismiss suspects from you as murder of your parents. Noice...

you probably shouldnt plot a murder altogether

you probably shouldnt plot a murder altogether

@Boopy Doopy Depending on where they are, any amount of chickens could kill an elephant if they ate all the surrounding food and made the elephant starve.

Only one, if you train it how to shoot well enough

Only one, if you train it how to shoot well enough

@1k AMA? Okay, how many chickens would it take to kill an elephant?

@1k AMA? Okay, how many chickens would it take to kill an elephant?

@811chelseafc I think the point is that grades are relatively arbitrary in terms of intellect-- especially with a 132 IQ. Average range for IQ is 85 to 115 (though many professionals will say anything below 90 is low and anything above 110 is high) with a true average of 100. An IQ of 132 is over 2 standard deviations above the mean, indicating "very superior" intellect.  Achievement,  or academic grades,  do not always directly correlate with intellectual abilities when you haven't had adequate educational exposure; each measures something different.  You can have a high IQ with low achievement,  although you would not see the reverse-- low IQ with high achievement. She was athletically inclined and on her way to the Olympics, which translates to tutors on the road-- not the same as a formal education in an academic setting.  She had the intellect,  just not the tools to properly access and apply her abilities.


It's crazy to see how as the questioning progresses, the detective slowly inches his chair closer and closer to Jennifer. It's such a subtle tactic but the psychological pressure created by this is so strong it taps into her natural instincts for fear and submission.

He put himself so far inside her head that she expressly admitted that she wanted to die to him, and in detail as to a fictional "how" and an actual "why", while never admitting to planning the murder of her parents. As stated, they didn't find the text messages detailing the actual plan until 2 1/2 weeks later.

Then she pleaded with this man to stay with her because he was "on her side".

He applied pressure like a pianist. Or like a fiddler.

Which is also subtle physical intimidation of a young woman by a grown man. and its deliberate.

From a D.I. that's not for psychological pressure, moreover, to feel an affinity and deliver the "I'm on your side, I understand" approach, thus removing the pressure from her and the interview booth. Turn up the heat in these types of interviews, she won't cooperate as it would psychologically remind her of her parents relentless lifelong pressure.

@Alexis gg The pressure was immense. Even the narrator mentions it, more than once. Watch it again.

@George Xanthopoulos The pressure wasn't strong. She is weak, that's different.

@Abdulkareem Juabeh More like natural fight or flight instincts***

@Alexis gg He didn't claim she was strong. He said the detective's tactics created strong pressure for her.

she wasn't that strong at all... I'm sure she was an pretty easy one for the detective.


When the second detective tells Jennifer to stop apologizing if she’s hasn’t lied to him, that was such genius. If she really was innocent, he’s reassuring her that it’s okay that the story is a bit vague as someone in her position would not remember everything clearly, however if she was not innocent, this statement tells her that he could be on to her and letting her know that he is indeed very sharp and that he could be onto her.

@Xavier Montalban its not a racial thing its a trauma response called fawning

@mwahahahahahaha it is when it's used every time anyone would make a comment about someone from a certain ethnicity. People that see racism everywhere are the most racist.

@Xavier Montalban also apologising for everything is not really a cultural thing among asians

@Xavier Montalban racism is a liberal buzzword??

Oh she was stacking lie on top of lie through the whole thing.

Or the “I’ll turn over every stone” that’s what innocent ppl want to hear and guilty ppl fear

I would agree with this if she wasn`t Canadian!

@yablebab You didn't get my point at all.
I didn't say to ignore racist comments, I said stop calling every comment racist. This comment clearly wasn't racist and was for comedic purpose. You just decided to make an issues about race.

Its like If you called someone racist for saying that black people like rap. Sure it may be a black stereotype but it isn't ''racist'' by any mean.

@Mohamed Belbaali Ignoring racist comments doesn't make racism go away

@yablebab Yo chill
I know he was stereotyping but it def was for comedic purpose no need to make a big deal out of it.

For real it wasn't even that offensive. One of the best way to stop racism is to stop making it an issue.

@Xavier Montalban why r you generalizing 🤨

@raishea 24 yeah but still, in the case she is innocent, it can just help relax her and get a statement. Is she continues to apologize it doesn’t necessarily frame her. However, in the case that she is not innocent, this particular statement could pressure her. His statement won’t pressure her more if she’s innocent

I know a couple of Asians and they tend to apologize for everything so that goes out the window

@raishea 24 seriously! I would go into an apologetic loop. Apologising because it's natural for me to say sorry, then apologising for being told to not say sorry. I can already feel my mind go into the spiral of Sorry and not knowing how to get out because you need to apologise for your apologising and on it goes. Ugh

@raishea 24 can be a sign of trauma. I think it's one of those things that you add to like, apologizing a lot plus other things.

Well tbh I apologize about things that aren’t my fault all the time. This is different because she is guilty but constantly apologizing for things that aren’t your fault is a sign of trauma


The fact that it was easier for her to murder her parents rather then confront them, is very telling and sad

@Rey Palomo Trying to understand the psychology (and sometimes psychopathy) behind violent crimes and knowing that there is ALWAYS emotional/cultural/religious factors that affect or effect the murderer is NOT “justifying” their actions. 🙄

Just like being a normal human and being able to empathize or see a part of yourself in the offender doesn’t mean you would EVER do the same thing or agree with their actions.

That is the entire basis behind forensic
psychology and criminal profiling. Being able to put yourself in the mind of the killer and understand their actions and emotions.

That’s not even taking into account the provable FACT that many Asian families put often unbearable pressure and priority on grades/school/college/degrees etc. And it isn’t being “racist” like someone said above to acknowledge this (🙄). It is so common and is getting so bad that governments and local communities and mental health institutions and schools have had to step in and make documentaries and pamphlets and courses and lectures and training about how it’s absolutely killing some children.

@christian  they gave her the option to be free. If they are such horrible people then why not take that option? Oh because she wanted the insurance money. We all have had moments where the pressure of parents is too much but she literally faked her whole life not because the pressure was too much but because she wanted to be w a loser instead of at least trying. I bet if they give her the death penalty all this “because i wanted to die” shit would stop immediately

her parents robbed her if a normal childhood and then adolescence and then literally threatened to disown her because she wasnt living up to their expectations? obviously what she did was terrible but I can feel for her a little. her parents messed her up. being a parent means unconditional love. it doesnt mean if your kid is doing bad things like smoking crack you still treat them gently. there is a difference between being strict and whatever you call what they did where it's taken to the extreme and you essentially see your child not as their own person with their own faults and imperfections but see them as a robot that has to live life the way you tell them.

@Paul Trigger No I think they wanted the best for themselves. No one who wants the best for their children EXPECTS them to go into medical and just succeed.

@madtabby so ur saying that talking on an experience apparently a lot of Asian kids face is racist even if the person talking on it is Asian?

I don't condone murder in any way, but I can't help sympathize with being desperate when you feel like you're stuck and there's no way out other than doing the unthinkable. Watching this made me recall the clustrophobic feeling I had living with my parents.

Dafuq does that mean? God I live in a world of delusional psychopaths..

There is no confronting “Tiger” parents!

@rin They are not sympathizing with her. They're empathizing. There's a difference. Many people have been raised in a similar fashion, and that grants them quite a bit of insight. Explaining why it happened and justifying it are also two different things. All of these comments are explaining how it might have gotten to this point. People with similar experiences are going to empathize with her because they understand the pressure she was under. Nobody here is justifying what she did because there is no justification for it. Nobody is sympathizing with her because she doesn't deserve it. She might have thought she had no other viable choices, but she did, and she chose the nuclear option and ruined everyone around her. Either way, people are inevitably going to empathize with her and there's no getting around that.

Shows one of two things: She was intimidated or she was a coward.

@madtabby Tutoring doesn’t ALWAYS work. My cousin has a math tutor and we’re both the same age, yet I score higher (no tutor)

@Paul Trigger <br>I'd say it's more, she was raised in a culture where IT SEEMED failure was unacceptable. It's probable that if she thought her parents were more strict than they actually were. I had a similar experience with mine, took years before I could open up to them, was shocked that they responded so calmly. It doesn't help that by lying she made it look as if she was living up to their expectations, making them assume their parenting was working. If she told them she was failing, perhaps they would realize and accept that she wouldn't live to their expecations, and they'd let her be more free. We'll never know.

@Paul Trigger
I'd say it's more, she was raised in a culture where IT SEEMED failure was unacceptable. It's probable that if she thought her parents were more strict than they actually were. I had a similar experience with mine, took years before I could open up to them, was shocked that they responded so calmly. It doesn't help that by lying she made it look as if she was living up to their expectations, making them assume their parenting was working. If she told them she was failing, perhaps they would realize and accept that she wouldn't live to their expecations, and they'd let her be more free. We'll never know.

y’all are weird as hell for sympathizing with her idgaf

They confronted HER and gave her an ultimatum.  They only gave her two choices, as was their right - they owned that house, she was an adult, she could either abide by their rules or leave.  Both were reasonable options.  She tried it their way and then at some point decided that she did not want to live by their rules.  She should have left at that time.  They were strict parents with a strong belief system.  Her confronting them would have been a waste of time and gotten her nowhere. She should have just left.

She could have clearly left home but she wants the money as well.

it was sad when she was a child. not grown 24 yo

гарри я скоро не вернусь

@Tasty Noodle This is unfortunately true in some cases. I remember very vividly in middle school a Chinese girl in my class (who was a straight A student) managed to get an A instead of an A+ and she cried and sobbed literally from the morning all the way until school was done. She wouldn't even get out of her seat. Luckily, our teacher was Chinese herself and most likely understood what she was going through. I can bet the teacher changed her mark for the sake of her safety.

Or just leave but naw she wanted the house the car the boyfriend and the drugs idk if she did them but when u got a dealer as a bf u didn't meet at Starbucks

Tbh, you can't reason with asian parents. They believe what they want to believe. There's no compromise, only acceptance.

I wish she had just chosen to run away with her boyfriend or alone, that she had found a more suitable boyfriend to reinforce her escape impulses and not reinforce her hatred or resentment towards her parents. Far too long I've seen couples involved in family murders, because one always reinforces violent decisions on the other. It's a dangerous cycle that leads to, well, what Jennifer did. <br>I know, as a child of overprotective parents myself, how all that childhood baggage reflects on our relationship choices, choice of partners if you will. It's like we keep looking for that same shadow our parents put us in, over and over. It freaking hurts man. We all need someone who helps us find the light at some point.

I wish she had just chosen to run away with her boyfriend or alone, that she had found a more suitable boyfriend to reinforce her escape impulses and not reinforce her hatred or resentment towards her parents. Far too long I've seen couples involved in family murders, because one always reinforces violent decisions on the other. It's a dangerous cycle that leads to, well, what Jennifer did.
I know, as a child of overprotective parents myself, how all that childhood baggage reflects on our relationship choices, choice of partners if you will. It's like we keep looking for that same shadow our parents put us in, over and over. It freaking hurts man. We all need someone who helps us find the light at some point.

@T Adams I'm sure her parents did what they did out of love and because they wanted her to be successful, their methods were just incredibly excessive

@madtabby how do you know? did you speak to her parents or something?

@Rey Palomo it's not about justifying what she did. It's more about trying to understand how a person like this is made, shaped through the experiences of their lives. Nothing excuses her murdering her parents. Nothing. But understanding how she got this way could help people notice warning signs in others before another situation gets to this point.

@Rey Palomo there is no justifying murder. However, me and my fellow Asians can sympathize with her situation. I even currently have a friend who is suicidal because of her father's pressure on studies. She is 18 and he even beat her till recently, maybe still would. She's just still alive because she loves her little sister.

And before you mention it, no. Authorities cannot be contacted here because it destroys families and ostracizes the victim, bringing an even worse situation on them.

I don't think you know completely how things are here. I urge you to never put all of the blame on children, who were, after all, raised by their parents.

People really justifying what she did? Disgusting

her boyfriend being the drug dealer must have played a big role in this

You're lying, you get beaten up. You're telling the truth, you get beaten up. Welcome to Asian family.

Ultimately in the end the parents raised this person.   The parents only wanted the best for her I'm sure, but she was raised in a culture where failure was unacceptable.  This problem could have been fixed a decade before this happened.

Not really.

If she told them she was failing, they would have got her a tutor and made her study more, rather than hang out with her drug dealing boyfriend.

Maybe she tried before or just outright thought talking would be of no use. The description given didn’t make them look like the most negotiable people so she just thought that talking would only make it worse. The murder certainly MADE it worse but from her POV this seemed like the more certain option since she clearly thought she’ll be able to pull it off.


These videos make me so scared that I could somehow get innocently convicted for a crime I didn't commit, because I would be super nervous and shitting myself in an interrogation, no matter if I was guilty or not. I have terrible memory and if I was sat in this room my answers wouldn't be making any sense either.

Why r u even watching these videos dude. It's scary as hell

Also, there’s a difference for straight innocence and knowing what’s up , body language etc.  She kinda had a motive.

thats what happened to Amanda Knox, always ask for a lawyer and don't say ANYTHING

..but you wouldn't be trying to make up false stories to cover what really happened.  That's the difference...

It’s the same for me. I feel like I’d be locked up, guilty or not. Though, of course, I’m too terrified by this fact about myself to even TRY to do anything illegal.

Exactly! This is a YT recommendation and scares the hell out of me. What if I was convicted of a crime i didn't do? Now I've decided to get a diploma on law or sth law related. Scary shit

I know- I feel the same way! I would get flustered after several hours and likely say something stupid and become the number one suspect knowing my luck 😅 I can do a lot of blathering when I’m feeling really anxious.

That's what in saying everything these people do I would do

@sm2593 She wasn't too bright. She never think why they asked those questions. As soon as the questions about "her past" appear, she should have known it has nothing to do with a simple" home invasion" <br>I think if the police question about the sequences of events, fine. But if they start questioning about you, specifically, about things not related to the case, they are suspecting you.

@sm2593 She wasn't too bright. She never think why they asked those questions. As soon as the questions about "her past" appear, she should have known it has nothing to do with a simple" home invasion"
I think if the police question about the sequences of events, fine. But if they start questioning about you, specifically, about things not related to the case, they are suspecting you.

@Khanh Di Nguyen I understand what you're saying and I definitely agree everyone should have a lawyer but in this case I think her story was gonna fall apart anyway

@sm2593 People are not afraid because she is a bad liar , and she make mistake. People are afraid that the innocent people give the "incorrect answer" when their own memories fail them. A simple" I never shot a gun before" then you remember that you and your friends already try out at the gun range. What can you do? You change the testimony? Look guilty. If you think about it, other questions fly by you and you hesitate? Look guilty. If you don't think about it, and then questions come back again in another form? Look guilty.

That's why you have to get a lawer. The detective's work is to make you confess if they "think" that you are guilty, regardless of the fact, by any mean necessary.

Why does it make you scared? She is really bad at lying and crying fake tears. She is clearly trying to conceal something. I don't get why everyone keeps commenting this kind of thing, she is a terrible liar and it becomes clear within the first 10 mins of the video??