Imagine if she never had that injury and was actually a well respected ice skater right now... wow how life can take a turn

Imagine if she never had that injury and was actually a well respected ice skater right now... wow how life can take a turn

No man. You dont know just how much character it takes to go through with something like this. There are people who have been bullied and laughed at by everybody right in front of me, no parents, no siblings, even cried and was degraded and weak for even that. And right now he's putting his entire life into going to school half the day and working the other half to pay it off. And as far as I know he's still alone, but he never once took his hatred on who deserved it. And i know he hated everyone with all his heart. But last year of highschool he told me "proving them wrong would be a million times more satisfying than hurting them." And that's the true-est thing I've ever heard. I've had people try to ruin my whole life. The way to really hurt them is to stunt on them.🤷♂ because most of them would rather die themself than to ever see you doing better than them. That's just how toxic and corrupt people are. Make them suffer the way they do you. I'm about one thing down to my dna and my soul, I give what I get. But I always give everyone a chance of respect. I don't care how weird you are or whatever.

@Parkwaydrivern50 Parkway Drive fan, a man of culture,  I see 😎

@Parkwaydrivern50 Parkway Drive fan, a man of culture,  I see 😎

Her parents were a bit too hard on her, some people are not cut out for academia. Pity about her knee injury too.
Ultimately she is responsible for her own choices but I feel her parents forced her into this situation.

Obviously normal people in this situation do not just make the leap to murder.

@Somerset Seidenberg why would she do that

@Somerset Seidenberg why would she do that

It doesn't matter once a killer always a killer if she got married tired of her husband would have killed him, somebody's a better skater than her probably would have killed them she was doomed since day one anything that's pressuring her she kills

It doesn't matter once a killer always a killer if she got married tired of her husband would have killed him, somebody's a better skater than her probably would have killed them she was doomed since day one anything that's pressuring her she kills

Eh, based on the parents, she was probably overtraining at a young age (hence the borderline Olympic skill). The injury was likely inevitable.

Eh, based on the parents, she was probably overtraining at a young age (hence the borderline Olympic skill). The injury was likely inevitable.

And it doesn't follow that if she wasn't injured she would automatically become a well-respected skater. Things could have taken a turn there, too...there are no guarantees in life.

And it doesn't follow that if she wasn't injured she would automatically become a well-respected skater. Things could have taken a turn there, too...there are no guarantees in life.

Vikii Sku.  We're faced with decisions and choices every day. Shit happens. Our reaction is our responsibility. We own our own feelings and behaviours (unless held at gunpoint). An injury that ruins a career in skating or whatever doesn't have to end in murder. That's ridiculous.

@Gaynor Gregory
I see, thank you for your reply :)
The point where I cannot fully agree with your idea is that criminals who are categorised as psychopaths usually have traumatic childhoods.
For example, Ted Bundy, known as a serial raper and killer of college female students,  had untrustworthy parents, which is thought to have affected him to be a sly killer.
He has said that killing is fun, but considering the well-known fact that children under toxic parents are more likely to be either aggressive or depressive, his words and actions might have came out as a result of his parents.
I believe that this psychological and environmental structure is very similar to that of hers.

@ileryon Switch “essay” with “retort”, and you practically just responded to yourself.

@ileryon Switch “essay” with “retort”, and you practically just responded to yourself.

Oussama Kirishima You and another commentator here...Aunthau....are exhibiting dangerous and faulty thinking.
You seem to believe that humans are like seaweed in the ocean, merely going with the flow, at the mercy of the tide and the waves...

This in itself is a problematic mindset, yet you seem to go one step further: If someone does something you don't like, it's perfectly reasonable to eliminate that person or make them suffer. You feel justified in doing so because you are always the 'victim' and you have no personal responsibility. They are wrong and you are right. This way of thinking is congruent with narcissistic, psychopathic and sociopathic traits.

If I'm way off track, please correct me. Cheers 👍

Haha wow 190 replied comments. I totally missed that one haha.

Haha wow 190 replied comments. I totally missed that one haha.

I think even if she never had the injury and became famous she most likely would have still done the same thing. This was a family issue, not an injury issue. Even if she was living successfully, she still would have been having to live under the strict order of her parents. Even without an injury she still would have had the same education level, the same grades and her family still would have been all over her for that. This isn't injury based on what if, this is a family issue that would have gone on for their entire lives. I do want to assume Jen would be a better mother than her parents, but I also see that if Jen can do this to her parents, Jen would have raised her children under the same strict ruling because she endured it. Sad to say, she was a volcano waiting to erupt, yet I still feel bad for her to a certain degree, her actions and choices are still Her actions and choices.

@Sarah Bell this is definetly super plausible I’ve seen it happen to a couple of people

@Sarah Bell this is definetly super plausible I’ve seen it happen to a couple of people

@CelestialKnight23 I agree with this, not to mention that her alternative option was to just go live with her boyfriend and leave her parents behind. Any sane person wouldn’t feel the necessity to kill their parents given this ultimatum.

@CelestialKnight23 I agree with this, not to mention that her alternative option was to just go live with her boyfriend and leave her parents behind. Any sane person wouldn’t feel the necessity to kill their parents given this ultimatum.

@V.G. Castle that's different  plus he acted completely on his own  in this case there were at least 4 others   which were all older men  and those were  not nice people  she was brainwashed into helping them do it  and took all the blame

@V.G. Castle that's different  plus he acted completely on his own  in this case there were at least 4 others   which were all older men  and those were  not nice people  she was brainwashed into helping them do it  and took all the blame

No excuse on what she did,but I can see where it's coming from. Just when we trained our dogs, human behavior starts when they were young. She was trained to think that in order for her to gain favor, she has to reach their expectations. And parents seems to only emphasising on results. I don't like comments who say they were just overprotective. It's so common in Asian family and I hate when people taking this lightly. This is literal form of abuse, even the detective said so. She does seems to have sociopath tendency though and she is NOT a PSYCHOPATH (please know the difference). Which means she would do whatever to gain her a favor. In this case she think her only way to survive was by making them happy. She is 24 yes she is adult and should be aware of responsibilities, but let's not forget she started lying since she was young and this behaviour is partly the byproduct of her parents nurturing. Lying gave her instant gratification and she started to see a shortcut; a short "gateaway" and shortcut from constant pressure.

I do think if she get a more nurturing parents who teach that the process and workhard is more important than result, her sociopath mind would think working hard is enough to gain her favor.
Again, no justification on her murder. She is definitely wrong and would like likely to do crime no matter what field she is in, but please don't oversimplified her parents by simply saying they are "strict and overprotective". It's more complex than that.

@Oussama Kirishima exactly   parents who diddnt really care  for her  imo dont love her like they should of  I'm sure if she was my daughter  I would of known   the difference in her school tests   surely her school  tests were hugely different  from when she was doing great at skating   most likely mediocre tests  like cs and ds with some bs  and after her skating  career had finished due to injury    she went to all As and A_pluses  they should of known right there  bad parents who imo done a bad job at living her  you never turn you're back on you're kids   and I'm thinking  the drug dealer boyfriend   was the instigator  he  probably  told her to kill them it was his idea  and she just went along with it    parents  diddnt deserve what happened  to them  but they definitely  not good parents   definitely  compared to my parents who loved me no matter what I done  they would be in a grade  a f minus

The parents imo are not good parents   they bullied her    poor girl lost  her ice skating  future   and if they were any kind of good parents they would of known if she was  a bright girl aswell   they would of known from her past  if she was as clever  as she was showing   there must of been a huge difference  in her  school  tests   how diddnt they realize   plus to give you're kid an ultimatum   that's horrible to do to you're  kid   no she shouldn't of planned theire murder   but I wouldnt be surprised  if it was the drug dealing boyfriends  idea    imo the parents should of showed more love to her     gave her more support   most likely  she started  fixing school results just to  make her parents happy   but by the looks of things they diddnt even care   if they did they would of known  or at least looked into how she was getting all A_plus  results   from what were most likely before  her skating accident I'm thinking she wasnt getting  near any As let alone the A_pluses   I feel a bit sorry for her because  I was  loved to bits  no matter what my grades were no matter what I did    they always  loved me   gave me everything   they could   they would never of cut me off

She decided to be “famous” in a different way

She decided to be “famous” in a different way

@CelestialKnight23 Yes, there is no changing psychopathy. Once the brain (often from birth) is not firing correctly, the choices will always be poor.  I listened to the whole audiobook on this gal. She was a lifetime liar and deceiver, then the ultimate, a murderer. No changing this neurology. The people with their trite comments have never met or studied psychopathy and don't understand the depth of this problem. It is not "fate" or "bad circumstances"....It is about self advancement, self indulgcies (no matter how sick - Dahmer), self centerness at everyone else's cost (parents, family included).

Still, I would understand stealing but murdering your parents? And not regretting it? That dark side must existed before the accident

Still, I would understand stealing but murdering your parents? And not regretting it? That dark side must existed before the accident

@East Asians Are Whites But Due to Racism you clearly underestimate the power of surpressing parents. She has been neglected in her development for years. But she still loved her parents bcz thats how she was raised.
Despite the fact she wasnt happy inside, her parents meant everything to her.
Her damaged mind made a choice which, she sincerly thought, it would work.. all due the fact that she was neglected in her growth.
She was over 20... but still had the mindset of a 11 year old.
Poor parents, poor girl.
Im not justifying what she did, not at all. It was wrong and she deserves to be locked up for it....
Im just mentioning what caused it all, what made her make the descisions she made 😞

@Oussama Kirishima BUT she could have chosen the second option to get disowned. WHY KILL? The more I think, the more I think she's evil! Also, she continued to lie even until the end because she's fearful of her own future.

@Oussama Kirishima BUT she could have chosen the second option to get disowned. WHY KILL? The more I think, the more I think she's evil! Also, she continued to lie even until the end because she's fearful of her own future.

East Asians Are Whites But Due to Racism

@Albert Rickers and what caused that behaviour?

@Albert Rickers and what caused that behaviour?

Not saying the parents are right for their actions/ beliefs but that's very common in their culture and other cultures. Yes, they were strict etc but that still doesn't give her the right to have them killed. She's just an evil girl, even if she made something of herself the evil within would have came out in one form or another at some point!

@Gaynor Gregory yessss that is what I meant

@Gaynor Gregory yessss that is what I meant

@Gaynor Gregory I'm not justifying her actions. You're the 12 year old here. Either you can't read or you're putting the words into my mouth either way it's annoying as hell. Go to your room!

@Gaynor Gregory I'm not justifying her actions. You're the 12 year old here. Either you can't read or you're putting the words into my mouth either way it's annoying as hell. Go to your room!

@lori Villarreal Some people kill like it's breathing. One of my best friends through high school and college murdered a kid. He started selling drugs and thought some people were after him. he freaked out when a 15 year old knocked on his door trying to buy some meth and he and a friend popped 5 caps in him and then my friend finished him off by kicking him to death. then they went inside and smoked meth and shot heroin and didn't care one bit until the cops came. they left his body outside. They didn't hate him, didn't even care enough to do anything with the body.<br>Drugs (and she dated a drug dealer so she prolly used them) make you not care about life anymore. yours or theirs.

@lori Villarreal Some people kill like it's breathing. One of my best friends through high school and college murdered a kid. He started selling drugs and thought some people were after him. he freaked out when a 15 year old knocked on his door trying to buy some meth and he and a friend popped 5 caps in him and then my friend finished him off by kicking him to death. then they went inside and smoked meth and shot heroin and didn't care one bit until the cops came. they left his body outside. They didn't hate him, didn't even care enough to do anything with the body.
Drugs (and she dated a drug dealer so she prolly used them) make you not care about life anymore. yours or theirs.

@Oussama Kirishima it takes hatred, deep seated hatred to kill. It's weird how you think ... it's the killers fault her parents were murdered. She plotted against them. She was a and is at fault.  She could have been free, all she had to do was make smart plans for her life. Take steps to move forward on her own and make a good life for herself.  But shes a fool and took an evil opportunity to take her frustration out on her parents by killing them. You need to grow up and get some wisdom. Your way of thinking is foolish.

@Margaret Misher  I think you mean, in 1 minute’s time your life can be fucked up by YOUR OWN HAND.

@Margaret Misher  I think you mean, in 1 minute’s time your life can be fucked up by YOUR OWN HAND.

@juluke  her parents were bad PERIOD? Pushy certainly and they must have been a pain in the arse, but nowhere near as being as bad as a murderer. If you need to be told that, then that is creepy af.

@juluke  her parents were bad PERIOD? Pushy certainly and they must have been a pain in the arse, but nowhere near as being as bad as a murderer. If you need to be told that, then that is creepy af.

@EH4LIFE IKR? Clearly. Plenty of babies justifying it though. As if pushy parenting is worse than murder?!

@EH4LIFE IKR? Clearly. Plenty of babies justifying it though. As if pushy parenting is worse than murder?!

@Grace D. imagine if she wasn’t a psychopathic murderer, and didn’t think the world owed her a living?

@Grace D. imagine if she wasn’t a psychopathic murderer, and didn’t think the world owed her a living?

@vinita joshi  you know that’s because they have breaks in adding on more likes right? Lol, shall I lol?

@vinita joshi  you know that’s because they have breaks in adding on more likes right? Lol, shall I lol?

@Arcilias I have very close friends who have been treated far worse by their parents, but didn’t murder them. Worse even than what you said. Now we know she had pushy parents, and they sound like a nightmare for a teen, but that’s it, there’s zero evidence of any physical abuse as described by you. Did you bother to research her story? Because she could have just left at 24, but she didn’t want to, because she wanted their money. She had never been financially responsible for herself, even when she lived apart from her parents. They paid for everything. She’d never done a day’s work in her life, and she had no intention of starting then. She is a psychopathic murderer obviously, but sure make excuses for her, and then when kids come from appalling abuse, people will maybe think we’re overstating it, the way you clearly just did here.

@CelestialKnight23 honestly thank goodness you were on this thread, I started feeling like I don’t really know this world that I live in, and that would be weird because I am middle-aged. Thank goodness @aunthau MV came around to the light side too, the one you took the time to go through it all with. Because before that @Oussama Kirishima had made two responses that victim blamed the parents and totally exonerated the daughter of any responsibility of the murder. S/he got several likes too, and that threw me through a loop too, but I am telling myself lots of younger teens ‘liked’ those comments. I have to do that for my own sanity. But anyway, thank you, for being a normal person who accepts that we are all responsible for our own behaviour as adults. We cannot change the way other people behave, just ourselves, and we are 100% responsible for that.

@John erm... nope, it was a career ending knee injury as set out in the video.

@John erm... nope, it was a career ending knee injury as set out in the video.

@aunthau MV she could have just left, that’s what a responsible adult would do. She had no intention of being responsible. She literally messed up in high school (so did I and left with no qualifications) then she messed up again in college (I waited to go until I was a full grown adult, because I too liked to party whilst I was young). What I didn’t do, was go back to live with my parents at 24, and still not want any responsibility, but wanted their money, so I decided to take the psychopathic way out and murder them. All these things are her responsibility, and yes her parents were critical etc, but I have witnessed far worse, and their kids didn’t go around committing MURDER. Look, it’s good that you were open to having your mind changed, but then you nearly turned it all around again, by suggesting that her parents possibly humiliating her, gave her a good reason to murder them. I suggest if you want to be the bigger person in future, you admit that you previously got it wrong and then leave it there.

@a little break unfortunately they didn’t, but that’s not what turned her into a psychopath. I’m pretty sure that psychopaths are born not made.

@a little break unfortunately they didn’t, but that’s not what turned her into a psychopath. I’m pretty sure that psychopaths are born not made.

@maschilling100 have you heard of psychopathy and sociopathy? Well this young woman is clearly one of those two things. Are you claiming that you too are either psychopathic, or sociopathic? If so speak for yourself, because you certainly don’t speak for me. Your religion is one of many, including the religion that Jesus believed in: Judaism, but not everyone screws it up into some crazy “all humans are wicked and capable of murder”. How very odd.

@A. Walker she could have just left! What are you 12?

@A. Walker she could have just left! What are you 12?

“if her parents were supportive there would be no reason to kill them”? Are you a sociopath? A psychopath maybe? At the very least you must be a malignant narcissist. That is, if you’re an actual adult, you must be one of these, or something equally serious. The only out for your freaky attitude, is if you are a kid, in which case you shouldn’t be speaking about things you clearly know nothing about. Have you never heard of taking personal RESPONSIBILITY?! Talk about victim blaming! I mean, I agree her parents sound like a nightmare, but I have heard of worse. No one made her kill or do anything. Jfc she could have just left, no one was forcing her to stay, she decided to stay, because she didn’t want to be cut off from their money, and again, adults don’t have a right to be taken care of financially, even by their own parents. She was 24 years old at the time of her mother’s MURDER, not 12! The voiceover at the beginning of this psychological tutorial, that presumably we all just watched, mentions this woman’s OBVIOUS psychopathy. Grow up! Unless you really are a kid, then at least just own that, because obviously I don’t want to be being mean to a kid.

@Actressintrain Bri who knows if she would have killed either way, but if elite athlete figure skating had happened for her, it still would have brought with it, it’s own high-pressured scenarios. I think this young woman is a psychopath, considering that she couldn’t even muster up a single tear for her mum’s death and her dad’s severe injuries. It shows she lacks any empathy. So, if she isn’t psychopathic, then she is sociopathic. Given those facts, it’s very likely she would have killed later on in her life.

@Oussama Kirishimano what you say is crazy and irresponsible. What she did is psychopathic! The fact is she was willing to have them killed for her ‘freedom’ and her inheritance. You use the word blame, but most of us call that taking responsibility. What you said is ridiculous, this didn’t ‘happen’ to her, she is responsible for all of it.

@Novaa مجهول nope, it is the consequences of her actions, coming back to bite her on the arse.

@Novaa مجهول nope, it is the consequences of her actions, coming back to bite her on the arse.

@CelestialKnight23 you defend the parents way too much. There is such a thing where everyone is evil in this situation.

Her parents have a duty to teach love and forgiveness and decency. They didn’t. They wanted achievements which don’t mean a thing other than fill their social media pages with good stories.

The girl committed murder and deserves everything she got.  And sometimes there are bad parents who earned what they got along with it.

@aunthau MV That's all well and good, but she also could have just walked away.  If her brother has money to hire three hitmen, they money shouldn't be an issue for her.

Also, you can rob a house with out murdering everyone.

@aunthau MV That's all well and good, but she also could have just walked away.  If her brother has money to hire three hitmen, they money shouldn't be an issue for her.

Also, you can rob a house with out murdering everyone.

@Novaa مجهول god is so nice that he gives kids cancer or other fatal diseases and letting people be homeless

sorry no.

@Novaa مجهول god is so nice that he gives kids cancer or other fatal diseases and letting people be homeless

sorry no.

omg. facts... life is scary... like we would never know

omg. facts... life is scary... like we would never know

Don’t be so sure—Tonya Harding ring a bell?

Don’t be so sure—Tonya Harding ring a bell?

I’ve seen elsewhere that she wasn’t actually as good as it’s been implied in some portrayals. Like she was definitely competing at high levels, but she wasn’t going to be an Olympic or Nationals level skater or anything.

I’ve seen elsewhere that she wasn’t actually as good as it’s been implied in some portrayals. Like she was definitely competing at high levels, but she wasn’t going to be an Olympic or Nationals level skater or anything.

@CelestialKnight23 she wanted to be free.. years of surpression by her parents made her go insane.
She was mental ill and needed help.
All thanks to her parents that made her live, basically like a slave.. but a wealthy one.

@CelestialKnight23 she wanted to be free.. years of surpression by her parents made her go insane.
She was mental ill and needed help.
All thanks to her parents that made her live, basically like a slave.. but a wealthy one.

I dont think thats a realistic way of thinking at all tbh. Its not the knee injury that causes someone to make a plan about murdering and robbing their parents. And then not really feeling emotional pain afterwards, its alot more than that. I think either way jennifer might have been involved in some trouble because of her overall childhood/relationship with her parents/personality/second fake life etc.

@Alex Zamanifar you mean psychotherapist? Physio- refers to the body, psycho- refers to the brain.

@Alex Zamanifar you mean psychotherapist? Physio- refers to the body, psycho- refers to the brain.

Imagine her parents would allow her to do whatever the fuck she wanted to do with her life. I'm sure she'd have preferred being a lab technician over being a killer.

Imagine her parents would allow her to do whatever the fuck she wanted to do with her life. I'm sure she'd have preferred being a lab technician over being a killer.

Wow didn't know there is so many physiotherapist ???

Wow didn't know there is so many physiotherapist ???

@J Evola also, can you define the classic profile of a sociopath for me?

@J Evola also, can you define the classic profile of a sociopath for me?

@J Evola im not defending her actions, Im just saying that the parents were extremely toxic and probably a far bigger influence on her doing what she did than the injury she recieved and subsequently not being able to figure skate. It's like if you trip and fall off a building, sure, the trip kind of sucked, but if you weren't ontop of a building at the time it wouldn't have been a big deal. Her injury sucked, but if she didn't have to worry about her parents being toxic again then it wouldn't have been such a big deal.

Have you ever wondered if sociopaths are born or created?

@J Evola no, their toxic behavior was the problem, losing ice skating was her losing her way of dealing with their toxic behaviour, it was her shield, it protected her and once i was ripped away from her by her injury, she had to take their toxic parenting head on.

Imagine if she had had someone that instead of a drug dealer was a loving, genuinely supportive person who made her realize that yes while her parents were definitely being unreasonably controlling towards her, violence was never the right option.

Imagine if she had had someone that instead of a drug dealer was a loving, genuinely supportive person who made her realize that yes while her parents were definitely being unreasonably controlling towards her, violence was never the right option.

Would have never found out how effed up she really is lol

Would have never found out how effed up she really is lol

Imagine if she never had these toxic expectations on her and she could be whatever she wanted instead of being forced to be the success that her parents wanter her to be. I understand wanting success for your children, but when you try to decide what success is and how they should succeed, it's toxic. Not everyone is good at math, or science, or engineering, which is good, the world needs electricians and plumbers too. Maybe she could have had a wonderful, normal, middle class life working a job as a teacher or a librarian or something, but that wouldn't be successful enough for her parents... even though we all agree society needs such people. Heck, maybe she could have had a great life as a fast food employee, it doesn't make much but if that's all she needs and she enjoys it and is good at it, then why should others define her success and happiness?

i dont think so, she is still going to be no one because she said her own self that she was not at top of the pack, she was just middle average. it was jusf them her parents who put a high expectation on her

i dont think so, she is still going to be no one because she said her own self that she was not at top of the pack, she was just middle average. it was jusf them her parents who put a high expectation on her

Her mother would still be alive and her father well.

Her mother would still be alive and her father well.

In one minute time your life can be fuck up.

In one minute time your life can be fuck up.

@Sherif Adel that is a cop out. Human beings have agency. Free will to make choices. We are our own masters.

@Sherif Adel that is a cop out. Human beings have agency. Free will to make choices. We are our own masters.

She would have done something wrong either way

She would have done something wrong either way

@Parkwaydrivern50 we're showing sympathy now.
Okay, here's a scenario.

Guy suspected of 200 counts of rape. Oh, it's just the injury.

@Parkwaydrivern50 we're showing sympathy now.
Okay, here's a scenario.

Guy suspected of 200 counts of rape. Oh, it's just the injury.

Or if she had just taken responsibility for herself and her life and was a productive member of society. Imagine that.

Or if she had just taken responsibility for herself and her life and was a productive member of society. Imagine that.

She probably broke her leg and got addicted to pain killers and that's how it all started with the "drug dealer boyfriend "

She probably broke her leg and got addicted to pain killers and that's how it all started with the "drug dealer boyfriend "

@Somerset Seidenberg Why? She hates education so ice skating is a better choice, she enjoys it, she makes everyone happy.

@Somerset Seidenberg Why? She hates education so ice skating is a better choice, she enjoys it, she makes everyone happy.

She clearly has some psychopathy, not just from the crime but her drawn out interrogation performance. Likelihood of committing a crime regardless of her career is high.

She clearly has some psychopathy, not just from the crime but her drawn out interrogation performance. Likelihood of committing a crime regardless of her career is high.

Being able to skate doesnt negate the fact that this girl.is evil. She would just be an evil ice skater. A psychopathic ice skater.

Being able to skate doesnt negate the fact that this girl.is evil. She would just be an evil ice skater. A psychopathic ice skater.

Imagine if her parents respected her as a human being.

Imagine if her parents respected her as a human being.

Wow my like makes it from 1.6K to 2k lol shall I lol ?

Wow my like makes it from 1.6K to 2k lol shall I lol ?

Like Tonya Harding (Olympic tryout) did. If they're evil, it'll come out eventually at some point. Pro skater or waitress.

Like Tonya Harding (Olympic tryout) did. If they're evil, it'll come out eventually at some point. Pro skater or waitress.

Her parents have nothing to do with this?

Her parents have nothing to do with this?

@Novaa مجهول I hate people who justify things that happen as an excuse to "god". I wonder why so many children get cancer if god is such a nice guy who wants to "test" us.

@Novaa مجهول I hate people who justify things that happen as an excuse to "god". I wonder why so many children get cancer if god is such a nice guy who wants to "test" us.

@CelestialKnight23 Have you experienced being beaten by a belt continuously non-stop? A wire? A spatula? A broom? I resent my parents, I have had many moments where I felt like I'll kill them. You can't just say that feeling enough hatred to have the mental resolve to kill your parents is a "bad reason". Everyone has a different perspective with their own experiences. I frankly disagree with yours. I don't support murder, but I won't disagree she might've been abused enough to actually murder her parents.

I dont know she could have been a successful ice skater then years later had her husband killed for insurance or similar scenario shes obviously got a cold blooded streak that dosnt value human life would have come out at some point in her life .

I dont know she could have been a successful ice skater then years later had her husband killed for insurance or similar scenario shes obviously got a cold blooded streak that dosnt value human life would have come out at some point in her life .

@CelestialKnight23 Thank u for the kind gesture, and apology accepted. 🙂

@CelestialKnight23 Thank u for the kind gesture, and apology accepted. 🙂

@aunthau MV Sorry friend I didn’t mean to be rude, it wasn’t an actual comparison between you and her—I was just half-jokingly emphasizing how far-fetched I think it is to downplay her serious actions. But out of respect, I’ve deleted that part of my comment. Apologies once again. And thanks for being open-minded and revising your opinion based on the facts! I admire and respect that! At the end of the day I think we can both agree that what she did was BAD and deserving of punishment, and that improving your relationship with your parents who brought you up is far better than ungratefully planning out their demise!

@CelestialKnight23 U knw what, when u refreshed my memory on all the messed up things she started to do from a very young age, its clear she has a very disturbing method of taking care of her problems, through lying and deceit. I guess i wasnt reflecting on all those other things she did, before leading up to this point and at the end she was even able to carry out something like this against her own parents. Thanks for taking ur time to talking some sense into me 😅 but i'll also point out its rather rude that u'd compare me to a killer when all i did was look at it from a different perspective, which is not completely illegit. Who knows what really happened inside that house, or how many times her parents put her to shame infront of other relatives or clos friends. That mightve taken a psychological toll on her from a very young age.

@CelestialKnight23 Bruh! Its pretty clear she became the way she has become, is cause of her upbringing. Her parents for sure were very strict and abusive of their power. And if she was such a psycho she wouldnt have hired some people to do it. Rather shed do the job herself. She wanted to be free from the chains of her parents but also be able to live a good life. Therefore theres good reason to believe her eyes were on that vault, the savings of her parents. I think she's the kind of person that fears her parents so much she'd rather have them killed and take their money, rather than stealing from them and them knowing their daughter stole from them.

No, she might have been able to get famous and respected, she will still not get the very basic feeling that she does NOT have to be skilled or excel at something to be accepted (making her life kinda difficult for her cuz she WILL eventually get less athletic and fail to maintain her "identity" as a good skater). The parents just needed to provide her love and psychological security no matter what.

I dunno what kind of injury  she had but she was young probably could recover from it

I dunno what kind of injury  she had but she was young probably could recover from it

What would change. The heart intent was always there. That sums up every human heart. We’re all wicked apart from the transformation of the One who took the punishment on the cross. His Name is Jesus!!

What would change. The heart intent was always there. That sums up every human heart. We’re all wicked apart from the transformation of the One who took the punishment on the cross. His Name is Jesus!!

@Novaa مجهول i love when god gives ppl tests and challenges like when he gives kids cancer or has a random good person get mangled in a car accident. What a great guy

@Novaa مجهول i love when god gives ppl tests and challenges like when he gives kids cancer or has a random good person get mangled in a car accident. What a great guy

I don't believe it would have ended that way. Her parents were never happy satisfied with what she did. She grew up feeling unloved I bet. That's why it all went apeshitt

I don't believe it would have ended that way. Her parents were never happy satisfied with what she did. She grew up feeling unloved I bet. That's why it all went apeshitt

@Actressintrain Bri i disagree
if her parents were supportive there would be no reason to kill them
She isnt someone sick with an urge to kill
She killed for a reason
to be free

@Actressintrain Bri i disagree
if her parents were supportive there would be no reason to kill them
She isnt someone sick with an urge to kill
She killed for a reason
to be free

@Actressintrain Bri I agree, her sheer psychology would’ve eventually gotten her into serious trouble somewhere down the road regardless of the injury. People who are ok with murdering—let alone their own parents—are bound to get into trouble.

@Actressintrain Bri I agree, her sheer psychology would’ve eventually gotten her into serious trouble somewhere down the road regardless of the injury. People who are ok with murdering—let alone their own parents—are bound to get into trouble.

Here's what's wrong with that line of thought... People know what they're doing.

Here's what's wrong with that line of thought... People know what they're doing.

Sadly rather if she skated or not people that kill always have the urge to kill regardless it’s a mental thing in my opinion especially in her household I bet she couldn’t be the kid they wanted she probably still would of skated still have bad grades and still kill them I don’t think that would change the outcome to be honest look at her other choices, drug dealer boyfriend all of her decisions are not responsible she would of been this way regardless

Its like if Hitler was accepted to art school like he wanted.

Its like if Hitler was accepted to art school like he wanted.

An unfortunate situation...Life is very unpredictable 😕

An unfortunate situation...Life is very unpredictable 😕

@Novaa مجهول thats jst stupid
u cant jst blame it all on the people
shit happens and it controls us
at some point ull realize how events of our lives have control over us and not the other way around

@Novaa مجهول thats jst stupid
u cant jst blame it all on the people
shit happens and it controls us
at some point ull realize how events of our lives have control over us and not the other way around

Or maybe she just choose to run away? There are infinite possibilities she could've done but they don't matter as she already committed an irreversible crime. What's done is done

Or maybe she just choose to run away? There are infinite possibilities she could've done but they don't matter as she already committed an irreversible crime. What's done is done

It’s a test and challenge from her god she didn’t respect and owner her mother and her father those parent how the raised her

It’s a test and challenge from her god she didn’t respect and owner her mother and her father those parent how the raised her

@Henry Cavil I mean I am in no way defending the path she chose but since when is an injury a choice?

@Henry Cavil I mean I am in no way defending the path she chose but since when is an injury a choice?


bottom line... dont talk to police. always just immediately ask for a layer.  ive watched so many of these vids and the narrator says something completely different depending on the situation, but each narrator says notice his/ her reaction is not normal, but they all say that., if someone you love or know is killed dont cooperate with the police, or else YOU will be the main suspect. - police - "we would like to ask you some questions" - you - i want a layer" thats it. if you are watching this vid. dont think this couldnt happen to you. "i want a layer"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&t=450s


Have you ever seen someone cry in a tissue and it crackle after? Look


Like I saw on another comment on here, why was she there when it happened.. why not just come home to it and then call 911.. a lot less questions to answer. No story of the actual robbery. Come on Jennifer it makes no sense

@N Pp that’s true.. so still maybe plan it while you’d be in class??

Her parents wouldn’t let her out besides school so I guess it would still be suspicious why she would be out when she’s not allowed and specifically on that day


She could’ve literally said that she was hiding in the closet the entire time or something instead of creating this elaborate story, so she would lower the amount of possible contradictions later down the road, since all she would have to say is “I was hiding in my closet.”

I am NOT defending her, I am just saying how stupid her story was and how she overcomplicated it for no reason

even then there is no reason for burglars to kill people so they would eventually see the connection between her and her boyfriend

There’s nothing wrong with a little figuring out how you could’ve better gotten away with a crime.

There’s nothing wrong with a little figuring out how you could’ve better gotten away with a crime.

@Tiffany Nero Beautiful and smart! You're very insightful, thank you.

@Tiffany Nero Beautiful and smart! You're very insightful, thank you.

@Ira Dozier yes and no- if you truly are innocent, and have a strong alibi, you can be cleared quickly and assist the police in their investigation as much as possible.  It looks like you are hiding something if you refuse to speak with them, ESPECIALLY immediately following an incident of this sort.  An innocent person wants to clear their name and get justice as quickly as possible.  Just my personal opinion.  Now if it were a crime you didn’t have knowledge of, or didn’t have anyone close to you involved in, then I might ask for a lawyer to be on the safe side- if I truly had no idea what they were talking about.

@Cicada there are lots of different ways to be “smart”.  A better understanding of psychology would’ve helped here, a simpler story, more time in between the ultimatum and the crime, etc... I don’t think book smarts make someone a better murderer, unless those books are criminology and psychology books, IMHO

@22🐝z they look for three things- means, motive and opportunity.  She had opportunity- she was literally there, and one parent was killed, the other nearly killed.  Motive was established when they found out about the pressure/ lying/  boyfriend situation, and that the parents threatened to cut her off financially (money is VERY high on the list of motives), and the means, or way they were attacked, they already know.  They aren’t trying to prove she did it- they are trying to prove whether or not she set it up/ was the cause of it

@milkcult there were probably other people- her friends, her brother, family, etc that knew about the turmoil- that lie could’ve been found out way too easily

Her father was a witness.  She was walking around talking to the killers

Her father was a witness.  She was walking around talking to the killers

@whitley alizabeth has the father driven his Mercedes to visit her in prison?

@whitley alizabeth has the father driven his Mercedes to visit her in prison?

I don't understand why she had to make up a story. People did actually break into her house and rob them. I know she set it up but it did happen so she shouldn't have to make up anything.

At her age she obviously doesn't have that keen wisdom that us older folks do.

At her age she obviously doesn't have that keen wisdom that us older folks do.

She is not the brightest, you know, cos if she was, she wouldnt have been in this situation in the first place lol

The best way is go to Thailand and wait for a month to execute the plan and just go back home for the funeral.

The best way is go to Thailand and wait for a month to execute the plan and just go back home for the funeral.

If she was out of town it would be less struggle for making up all the incidents scenario , and she wouldn’t need fake emotions.

The infrared satellites would have shown her outside the closet.

The infrared satellites would have shown her outside the closet.

It is always easy to say that if you are not the offender. As a human you have always feelings like scare of beeing caught, guilty feelings ect and have no clear head.

She could’ve had also said her father tried to fight back and which cause them to shoot both at them so they freaked out as that wasn’t the plan and end up running away.

No. The easiest way out would've been a claim that one of the would be killers couldn't pull the trigger and chickened out. The rest of the events wouldn't need changing at all.  Of course this would first require the successful termination of witnesses.

What she even did shocked her that’s why she got confused about what to even say

What she even did shocked her that’s why she got confused about what to even say

Yea, but karma always comes for people like this, so either way, she would've eventually gotten caught.

Yea, but karma always comes for people like this, so either way, she would've eventually gotten caught.

Fr keep it short and simple. Don’t gotta try to remember nun

Fr keep it short and simple. Don’t gotta try to remember nun

if she went down, she could leave some traces or other evidence, she didn't know she left. so making up the story where she made all the walking and touching things is smarter if everything else played well. what she really needed was to stay in the closet for real or ask to fake it all for her too, so she could lie only about her being involved not the actions

Her father lived and blew away anything she said. She wasn’t tied up at all. Actually looked to be friends with them. Evil heart to set up a murder of your own parents whom only wanted the best for her. Cold blood evil murder money over parents. Now her dad lost his wife his love his best friend and he lost a daughter he thought loved him. Damn shame!

Just goes to show how smart she thought she was and how much of a disappointment she must have been to her parents to fail at deducing that simple thing

i mean she'd still get easily discredited since her father would've still told them about her walking around and talking to the "robbers"

@xponen_ I think you are emotional enough in such a situation tbh

@xponen_ I think you are emotional enough in such a situation tbh

@Novascotia Skater jody Aries was the worse

@Novascotia Skater jody Aries was the worse

Absolutely- but the problem with psychopaths is that they think they are smarter then everyone else. An example is Jodi Arias, she actually came up with the crazy two Ninjas attacked us story and kept that going for several months when to everyone else it was so ridiculous and insane it was clearly completely made up....but to psychopaths it makes sense and they believe they can sell the story....

@milkcult the father smart went out side said help she could have finished him

@milkcult the father smart went out side said help she could have finished him

@milkcult "Like why would she make it seem like her parents were intolerable even if they were?" As the narrator said, investigator acted like a therapeutist at that point. Someone she desperately needed. She was crazy, but the parents made her crazy.

@xponen_ if Your dad die anda you dont cry do you Go to Jail. No contradictions no case.

@xponen_ if Your dad die anda you dont cry do you Go to Jail. No contradictions no case.

shit like that is easy to say but under stress you kinda just let your mouth run

shit like that is easy to say but under stress you kinda just let your mouth run

Yeah I thought that. like why did she leave room for so much detail

Yeah I thought that. like why did she leave room for so much detail

@Juan I was thinking the same ! "You know ... I see 2 options here : leave my parents, get a job, be on my own... ooor I could kill them ! ... Answer is pretty obvious right ? "

Nah won't work she already told them she was tied upstairs

Nah won't work she already told them she was tied upstairs

Or she could have left the house and gotten a job

Or she could have left the house and gotten a job

The only problem is that maybe the detectives would have noticed that her tied up would have been the obvious question how did she get the phone, and maybe the audio from a closet maybe more concentrated than a dad screaming I guess, I am just speculating, also her psychological stance while trying to answer specific questions being tied up in one location may result in confusion and desperate ness to come up with the answer, one a<br>Obvious thing though was that the father was alive so in retrospect the claim would have been the father was dead in the secondary situation.

The only problem is that maybe the detectives would have noticed that her tied up would have been the obvious question how did she get the phone, and maybe the audio from a closet maybe more concentrated than a dad screaming I guess, I am just speculating, also her psychological stance while trying to answer specific questions being tied up in one location may result in confusion and desperate ness to come up with the answer, one a
Obvious thing though was that the father was alive so in retrospect the claim would have been the father was dead in the secondary situation.

This is the sadness of this entire story.  When a person lived for others, they often not use their best smart.  They act in excessive way to submit ineffective works to show they have tried but failed.  She got used to the pattern.  You can also say why does she even bother to talk to the police so much?  Perhaps she should get a lawyer.  Again, she looks for approval.  even from the most unlikely places.  She would also score low on self guard because the boundary is always invaded by the parents.  At the same time, the parents came from this live or die era.  What they learn to survive is very different from the kind of competitiveness needed growing up here.   She was competitive in figure skating and that probably took her mind away from school and she had trouble making the switch from Arts to regular school subjects.   This is such a sad human story.  Jen and your family, while you did wrong, I wish you a better life.

All the people in this thread planning the murder better. 😂

All the people in this thread planning the murder better. 😂

@Viivi RistolainenHi there. I have couple friends who live in finland.  are you finnish maby...? Just guessing due to your name...

Even if you’re innocent, NEVER talk to the police. Get your lawyer. Every good lawyer will tell you the same.

Even if you’re innocent, NEVER talk to the police. Get your lawyer. Every good lawyer will tell you the same.

@Sophia Dominique perhaps, or perhaps not.. I don't know much about this case, but police interrogations can sometimes lead to false confessions

or she could’ve just not planned this whole thing

or she could’ve just not planned this whole thing

nah cuz she said the intruders turned the whole house upside down so it'd be hella sus if her closet was the only thing left untouched

Is a "smart murderer" better than the "average murderer"??

Is a "smart murderer" better than the "average murderer"??

@xponen_ i mean you could just act like your holding back your emotions which is pretty common.

@xponen_ i mean you could just act like your holding back your emotions which is pretty common.

Criminals are stupid, otherwise they wouldn't be criminals.

Criminals are stupid, otherwise they wouldn't be criminals.

@xponen_ I mean if there is no other evidence of funny business there isn't a case right? I don't think you can arrest someone for being unemotional

I think it's a product of narcissism being a part of a lot of the psych profiles of sociopaths. When you think you're the center of the universe and smarter then everyone else this is how you act.

@Viivi Ristolainen that's complicating. She would literally have to go out and buy something and get a receipt, be seen by people at the store. Who let's the murderers in? She's gonna give them her housekey?? They're gonna remember to give it back? What about neighbors who see three men they haven't seen before letting themselves into a house they don't own??

To be fair, he did say she wasn't exactly an 'A' student. It was definitely a C grade story she was trying to sell.

@Alex Znas yeah, you’re right. But still, if she would’ve said she was hiding, even her dad’s story of her talking to the shooter like a friend could’ve been questioned. Maybe he couldn’t remember right? After all, he did get shot and he was sedated for a period of time. Or maybe she was just trying to be friendly with them to stay alive & make sure nothing else happened to her parents. Maybe she was being nice to them and giving them more money or property?  She shouldn’t have even given a description of the robbers once she saw her dad was still alive, she should’ve left it to him to identify them.

Most robberies are preplanned? So the intruders knowing Jennifer’s name maybe wouldn’t have been so surprising if they had a hit planned on the family. Not defending her, just saying what could’ve happened if she was a bit smarter.

Her story also sounds soooo rehearsed. “I peered around the door..” like what? I just don’t feel like she’d naturally speak that way. She did take it too far making up stuff & really just talking.

The other mistake was they didn't ensure the father was dead. That sounds so morbid, but ... If things had been different ever so slightly she would've gotten away with it. Also she was spilling too much of her past. Like why would she make it seem like her parents were intolerable even if they were? Crazy woman she is.

@xponen_ that’s very true. She probably still would’ve gotten caught anyways, but she certainly would’ve had a better chance lol

That's very common. They think an elaborate story will stand up better than a simple one.

That's very common. They think an elaborate story will stand up better than a simple one.

good excuses... but she still need to show fake emotion (like a pro actor), and still need to make a story to blame someone else, otherwise police kept going to her for answer like what they did here.

or she could've go outside and say that her mom sent her to buy something

or she could've go outside and say that her mom sent her to buy something


They befriend these folks get um to spill their guts and then walk out the interrogation room and high-five their buddies like they just won a bowling league game 😂❤it


Wonder if the boyfriend pushed her or how far she had to manipulate the boyfriend?


She is giving all Contradictory statements.


1:27:54 What would happen if she said she did not understand those charges?


Notice at 53:37 she is still doing that finger thing like crazy


How about that 911 operator??? "*** Helen avenue rd?" "Helen rd? Helen ave?" "Please spell it" FFS!!! Its not like the girl had a difficult to understand accent.  Seconds are precious in this type of situation and at least 30 seconds were wasted on the Spelling of H-E-L-E-N. Smh. Tragic.


Yo — at 31:35, the broad literally picks up an empty cup and drinks nothing. DEMONIC.

I do that sometimes because i forgot i drank it all before, its less embarrassing than putting it back looking all dumb


If she was really fed up, she could have left to stay with her boyfriend but instead he was not even a Good influence


Oh, the tears!  They always seem to be able to produce tears.

Death!


Sometimes I get worried that people planning to do similar things watch these to learn how to “perfect” their interviews with police. Creepy to think about

I bet you they learned those cues...in their childhood. Bravo 👏 they found a job that matched that life they lived though.  You can't learn that patience and timing...brilliant!

Me 2. I have caught myself getting worried when an Arabic man with a backpack enters the subway or train and I step off at the next stop. I know this is irrational behaviour of me. But I cant help it

If you r clever enough to plan your crime. You should realize that a "perfect" crime only exist if you dont commit it...

@Hannes And why'd you feel the need to say that?

@Hannes And why'd you feel the need to say that?

Same ! I always think people will watch this as to NOT what to do !!

can never do....its gets broken down ...over and over...until you eff up.

Criminals don't think the same as we do tho. That's why there are so many common behaviors in all of these. It's like a whole different wiring.

people like you are the reason why this channel gets taken down for violating community guidelines and being accused of inciting violence.

@Carl Panzram  I agree completely. When I was ''interrogated'' by my school over some minor property damage, I found it difficult to stop shaking or showing real fear. That was definitely not a police investigation, in fact I had already admitted to doing it, just by accident. The school were threatening to temporarily suspend me which (in my head) would've made me lose school time and do badly in my exams, and that scared me enough.

@Anthony C it's actually true. Thats why the removed capital punishment.

You’ve caught me, I’ve been studying these videos and taking them as classes for interrogations.

yeah the perfect thing to say is "i want my lawyer"

yeah the perfect thing to say is "i want my lawyer"

The intelligent criminals are never suspected or caught, they are the scary people of the world. Why do you think there are so many unsolved crimes.

The "perfect interview" is a few seconds long: I am not talking. I want a lawyer.

but then they hadn't thought of it. only when you brought it up.<br>chills...

but then they hadn't thought of it. only when you brought it up.
chills...

@Nicole Araujo Thank you. That is incredible.

@Nicole Araujo Thank you. That is incredible.

It's highly unlikely that someone can just perfect their interviews by just watching some videos. Most people still can't even cook correctly by just watching some cooking tutorials.

They figure the "lawyer up" motion is a automatic admission of guilt (which in 95% of the cases. It is as far as the police are concerned) so they try to look as "innocent" as possible while falling for the "just some questions" routine. I get what he was saying about "at the time, she isn't a suspect" but police 101 teach them to consider everyone a suspect until cleared, i.e guilty until proven innocent

they already know how to tho. dont talk, lawyer up. no need for psychological tactics.

People can try, some killers may succeed... but honestly... it's very, very difficult... the real pressure is huge and you can't prepare your brain for that... maybe those who are in 3 and 4 levels of psychopathy have better chances to succeed (because of their extreme lack of empathy), but those officers are really well trained, they're professionals. There's nothing new for them...

@Nicole Araujo the more you say the more you reveal about yourself regardless of the words used.

@xboxman5ify exactly… a smart person wouldn’t even have to study this. Just not speak at all and ask for a lawyer

I'm honestly baffled why these people even do interrogations. As everyone has already mentioned, just don't talk to the police in the first place..

Yeah had the same thought when I first looked into abnormal psych

Yeah had the same thought when I first looked into abnormal psych

@Johnny B she did lawyer up that’s why she got off. She was never interrogated, any questions they got to ask her they did while waiting for her lawyer to get there

The trick is far easier. Only make minimal statements, use you right to stay silent, request a lawyer. You don’t need to watch hours of psychology-vids to get that.

Relax. No one with a brain would talk to cops. Besides talking to cops without a lawyer is just offering yourself up whether you're innocent or guilty.

I bet the smarter people who have been on this channel did do that. It’s just impossible to fake all your emotions and make a  fake story that’s 100% suspicion-proof when you’re this stressed and exhausted

@xboxman5ify %100 "I don't answer questions, especially without my attorney present..."

you could spend 1000 hours watching and studying videos like this and your best option would still be to not talk to the police and lawyer up. the only thing this really teaches people at least if you're smart is to shut up and get a lawyer.

I worry that too, but tbh there is soooo much information you’d have to know and remember and also acting is impossible 24/7 and an even bigger bonus when it comes down to it and someone is in the position she is in that stress and wrenching the investigators do for HOURS! Cracks will come and it will come out through them telling the actual truth or body language and story will show.

yes, once I read a comment here on youtube on a video about a student who raped and killed his teacher and one of the comments was a guy saying he wants to do the same thing to his teacher and he envy this boy who did it and that the only thing that held him from committing it was the jail.

yeah that’s why you don’t talk to them lmfao

yeah that’s why you don’t talk to them lmfao

Really if you want to get away with crime, the best thing to do is to exercise your 5th amendment right

It really doesn't make much difference.
Ive been interrogated by the police before, every nornal human is immediately gripped by the immediate social circumstance.

You could tell yourself 100 times "act normal, act innocent, dont say x, dont mention x, dont react to x" but once you have two actual people infront of you who have been digging into your story, playing with your emotions, and then they say "what about X?" you CANT prepare for that. You immediately have a very honest and real reaction, and all you can do is trying to cover it up.

It's like,l the difference between practicing a presentation on your own, where you cant really feel thw weoght of the moment, and then having to do it in front of the entire school, but instead of just listening they keep laughing asking "why is he so nervous?"

When i was questioned i couldn't keep anything to myself, i immediately broke under the pressure and said something really stupid, before i realized that the only way for me to safe myself is to just refuse to answer, and so i went silent, still ashamed of my weak fucking willpower lol.

I basically snitched. I really didnt want to, but investigators are litteraly TRAINED in how to investigate, while you are merely a amature fantasy hobbyist in resiting investigation 😂

Yeah but there is a video in this channel that shows that no matter how much you know the technics you will fall for them. It is a interview with a investigator that murdered a person.


This story just hits different. I feel really bad for Jeniffer. I can sense what her teenage curious mind was doing to her. She just kept going with it and was eventually in deep shit. Her life was over. I wonder what she might be thinking now about her actions. She could've made something out of her life but nothing matters anymore. <br>We should try to make good friends. Keep good people around us who can keep you in check. With whom you can share anything.

This story just hits different. I feel really bad for Jeniffer. I can sense what her teenage curious mind was doing to her. She just kept going with it and was eventually in deep shit. Her life was over. I wonder what she might be thinking now about her actions. She could've made something out of her life but nothing matters anymore.
We should try to make good friends. Keep good people around us who can keep you in check. With whom you can share anything.


The evil power and strength of HEDONISM..


This is what’s called “SHIT JUST GOT FKN REAL”  lol damnnn 38:45


“Jennifer starts fake crying again, but this time is not given tissue to wipe away her nonexistent tears” 😭😂

She didn't shed tears at her own mother's funeral. Investigators attended and noticed this. This interview is after the funeral

I legit came to the comments as soon as I heard this part lmao

Michelle Valdez @59:56 for the people wondering😂😂

we all here at the same time watching that part LOL I love it


Who would like to see the interrogation of her boyfriend?


I retract a previous statement but enforcement another the redacted is they were in the ground level ans she was tied so how did she when she was on the top floor she her mum constantly trying to get up but why does someone have a fridge upstairs and she had prior to this said something about downstairs


yeah you see those two pixels? that was a full grown man not 40 yards away lmao


I was a little shit when I was 23: I smoked meth, drank all the time, did a lot of coke, and was almost grounded like Jennifer (limited car privileges with the allowance of a social life and a job) because I was still living at home.

Never once did I ever think that I needed to kill my parents for treating me as equally as I treated them.

I moved out and we’re back to normal.

I feel some weird empathy for Jennifer only because she has a dark soul. Like… the saddest thing of it all for me is that Bic was the one who was super soft on her children and she died. Not saying that Han deserved to die or be shot but… I wish she didn’t die either.

And Jennifer’s brother said that their parent’s strictness was something you could deal with.

And as an aside, my empathy doesn’t mean I don’t think she’s vile. Jennifer has an underlying evil and darkness to her that is just scary.

@OP I’ll check my privilege

But all Jennifer had to do was walk out the front door? And being strict =\= abusive.

So my point still stands love.

Lol, you're not even Asian and you're trying to compare your family life to hers. Your parents weren't even abusive. Go ask any Asian kid what will happen to them if their parents found out they were a drug addict. A lot of Asian kids got even less privileges than you and they were never drug addicts.

Great breakdown in what you think. I agree.


What I find really weird is how she completely accepts being treated like a suspect. If I was genuinely innocent I'd be horrified that I could be treated like that after a genuinely traumatic event. She just accepts the position of guilty straight away.

@Natalie It's an oath of truth, it's common in the States, Canada too, apparently. I'm sure they have other religious texts to swear on should they be asked for. They also give you a second option for a more materialist person, I think solemn oath of truth or whatever. It's a way of formally agreeing to tell the truth, and accepting that there will be consequences if you try to distort the truth.

The feeling of dread probably overwhelmed her. I’ve never heard of swearing on the Bible before an interview.

That's how it is with parents like that. She's been treated as guilty all her life.

Probably because genuine innocent people hold that belief from the start, but an actual criminal like her has felt she had to defend herself from the start. She always felt defensive, where an innocent would get upset like you say when they transition into suspicion.


I would have to say that her explanation in somewhere around C-.


When the dad was shouting in horror running out to streets he was aware that his daughter was an accomplice and he was terrified of his own daughter even when she was saying Im calling 911. Man thats horrifying.

@MickyTheDrink when the father woke up from coma. Cops secretly interviewed him and he said that.<br>Their daugther was talking to those intruders just like she knew them at all and just simply walking around the house while .

@MickyTheDrink when the father woke up from coma. Cops secretly interviewed him and he said that.
Their daugther was talking to those intruders just like she knew them at all and just simply walking around the house while .

@CODA He told police she was walking around with perps like they were friends, then they told him to fake amnesia when talking to Jennifer, so he did know.

CODA, the video said that the Dad testified before they did the last interview that she was walking around with the intruders like they were friends. So he did know at that point.

@CODA she wasn’t a straight A student, she was C-

@Nestea Plunge  he was in a medically induced coma - it’s a way of giving the body  & brain a break and letting the medicine do the healing, nurses and doctors bring him out of it by titrating his sedating meds to little or nothing and he is conscious enough to talk

@Sincerely Sepita It cannot record, he said it to confuse her on purpose. Her story was just so unbelievably stupid, that i cant believe it. How can you fake diploma and then not get a basic alibi story done? Wow.

@CODA haha! Yes she was, she could just hide in a closet or sth and tell the police she was scared or as u said just leave the house, but the girl believed it when the interrogator told her satellite imaging can record ur moves in ur house, so not that smart 🤷♀

@Phiusmes I just didnt think the girl was THAT stupid, my apologies.

@CODA you completely missed everything in the video, the dad knew that she was with them

yes, because he screamed help in English, not in Vietnamese, indicating that he wanted a stranger to help, not his daughter. In immigrant families using English at home is unnatural and would take a lot of effort to force.

@SpaceCity HTX exactly, its really painful to even imagine that.

or maybe she was alarming those murderers to leave bcoz she called 911, cause she thought they left and her parents died but wasnt according to the plan.

@Sepita Good point, because if he didn't know she was behind it he probably would've run upstairs to check on her first, not outside

@CODA huh? Yeah, he ran out to the street after the murders ran away. He was already shot at that point.

Yeh I also think her yelling im calling 911 was to drown out what he was shouting

@CODA - Her dad was in the hospital in a coma "AFTER the shooting", so how would he possibly have seen her talking to the people that had shot him like they were her friends? He was referring to when he and his wife were shot, his daughter was walking around with the invaders and she was talking to them like they were her friends. How are you confused about this?

@CODA you realize he ran out to the street after he had been shot right? And he didnt run upstairs to check on his daughter cuz he knew she was an accomplice

@CODA he ran out onto the street after he got shot though and collapsed later

@CODA He knew his daughter was an accomplice at the time, but you can’t exactly talk when you’re in a medically induced coma. I don’t see the issue.

@Sincerely Sepita AFTER the shooting. You talked about him while he was running out to the streets.

@CODA if u watch the whole video the narrator says that after he (the dad) became conscious he told the police that he saw his daughter talking to the attackers the whole time like they were her friends

@MickyTheDrink because the police said when he became conscious after his coma he told the police that his daughter was talking to the attackers all the time like they were friends and he was sure that she knew them well.

How would the father know at that point?

Its not, because his daughter was out at the time and never did anything prior to make her Dad believe that she would try to murder them. He probably believed it was robbery.


These videos have me not trusting anyone lolol


The word life has 4 letters so a life in prison equals to only a day.


I dislike both parties in many of these videos.


wow she is obviously forcing herself to cry, and couldn't do it


honestly...i don't blame her. the fact that she would rather help commit murder than walk away speaks volumes. its all apart of culture too; her wanting to be there for her parents but still have so much hate for what's going on. and before everyone hates me, i know what she is going through. i am also secretly dating my bf and my parents are the exact same, of course, however, i would hire hit men and rather try to leave.

but asking "why didn't she just leave?" is the same as asking a DV victim the same thing. its not that simple. there are underlying issues such as disappointment, disowning and the fact this will be news to your culture. i also blame my culture for the way things are. i just feel so bad that a 24 year old thought it was better to hire hit men than to leave and have a life of her own. often we think how easy it is to overcome this issue, but we never put ourselves in their shoes.

of course she deserved to be in jail, but i also sympathise with her situation considering her parents had an unhealthy amount of high hopes and expectations of her. this is what destroys family.


the courtroom sketch of her is so unflattering lmao somebody fire that artist


“He leaves for three minutes to let Jennifer play with her hair before he charges her with murder.” The narrator is a savage!

@Itzel R - cause he said please and thank you to her during the robbery

The guy is awesome and that last interrogator put on a clinic. Dam he's good!Until her age was revealed I thought that woman was 19 at most. 👍

There are at least two three other guys outside watching and hearing the whole thing. He went out just to confirm with all of them that he had nailed it so he would come back to inform her she was being arrested... The narrator probably had a crush on her, that’s all.

Why would she call the guy that was robbing her a gentleman 😂

@Old Ironsides well your version of manipulation, admitting guilt and accepting consequences, which could have long lasting effects, in order to gain something as trivial as an atari ( yes trivial even back then), is pretty fukn stupid.

This is pretty basic manipulation

Shit when I was a kid.  I admitted to things I didn’t do that was my siblings.   So I could earn my Atari back sooner. Despite not doing anything.  And admitting to something and accepting the punishment so I could get something.

narrator should be in more crime documentaries

One thing they didn’t mention is that one of the men involved in the home invasion, Eric Carty, was already wanted for a shooting homicide of an acquaintance in Toronto, who was able to identify him to 911 before he died. He ended up getting stabbed in jail and later found dead in his cell. Not too long after being found guilty of shooting Pans parents

Well duh. I mean, you can't charge somebody with murder without seeing them play with their hair in a  diabolical way. Smh

When did that happen? Time stamp would be much appreciated.

Especially with the clip at the last ten seconds


Wtf r u guys on..?? Like jst bcoz she was emotionally and physically deprived of the love, freedom or anything from her parents she can execute them and that they deserved it.. I know how it feels wanting a little love and trust from someone u should get naturally bt u r like striving for it, it's hell, nd u actually start to hate that person more the days goes by, that kind of hurts less.. <br>But even if their parents tortured her, killing them was okay, literally says that a victim can be a perpetrator nd there's nothing wrong with it, so what if all the perpetrators in the world were victims, does it mean everyone deserves to be killed, could u really say this, if it were u, or somone close to u, "whether a killer is born as the one or the situations made them one, they choosed to murder".. ppl calling it a revenge, u guys should get a therapy, otherwise this type of crimes will keep happening.

Wtf r u guys on..?? Like jst bcoz she was emotionally and physically deprived of the love, freedom or anything from her parents she can execute them and that they deserved it.. I know how it feels wanting a little love and trust from someone u should get naturally bt u r like striving for it, it's hell, nd u actually start to hate that person more the days goes by, that kind of hurts less..
But even if their parents tortured her, killing them was okay, literally says that a victim can be a perpetrator nd there's nothing wrong with it, so what if all the perpetrators in the world were victims, does it mean everyone deserves to be killed, could u really say this, if it were u, or somone close to u, "whether a killer is born as the one or the situations made them one, they choosed to murder".. ppl calling it a revenge, u guys should get a therapy, otherwise this type of crimes will keep happening.


3:32 No matter how much u actually hate your parents.. but then screaming help help help like that.. I just don't know.


piece of advise, being strict doesn't mean they trying to ruin your life, instead they just want to open your mind to be ready in the future, either they want to be the same as your parents or they do not want you to experience what they were before when they were same as your age. very ungrateful daughter + peer pressure think your friends will help you when you are in trouble, then where are they now? you know what your one and only mom is your best of the best friend of your life, and now she is gone.


I am too autistic to understand any of the languages he uses to describe body language.


“If you are lying this is the most cold blooded thing I’ve ever faced in my life.”<br>Wow, that sent me chills.

“If you are lying this is the most cold blooded thing I’ve ever faced in my life.”
Wow, that sent me chills.

@Rosalee Harris she's not a good liar she blurted out here and there, in the first video within 20 min she said the "robbers" were gentlemen.

@Skip ads I think she meant walk free at the decision stage of things ie walk away with the bf and not kill the parents

@Skip ads she should have left the house before, before her parents expectations drove her into doing this

@Rosalee Harris Not really a master at it considering she keeps getting her story wrong every 5 minutes

@Skip ads no he's saying that when the parents gave her the option to either live with them and abide by their rules or leave the house and live on her own, she should've just chose to walk away and live a free life... Did u not watch the video?? Then u go around calling people names

Skip ads No he means that she should leave the house before this even happened she should have left the house and be independent

Send me some chills please, it is too hot here

She was a master liar  and a very deceitful person. She should have choosen to walk , take care of herself and be free .


The Bible for swearing in, super old school.


As soon as they start to find you suspicious, lawyer up. Always lawyer up, or leave. They cant keep you if you're not under arrest.


At 16:36 the way she accidentally got comfortable with the detective, slowly getting out of character and mocking her father's screams. Then attempting to snap back into the character is sickening

@Darth Silver Sith Yes, and somehow people are giving her more sympathy than her parents.

Austin Orecchio True but like I said, some parents go about it the wrong way. Plus, her parents are Asian immigrants and come from a different culture. Regardless, I think at the core.. they just wanted her to have a good life and did care about her.

Darth Silver Sith I hear you but a firm hand is exactly what makes someone treat their kid this way and not see how it’s horrible for the child and not the right way for them. Some people need a softer hand. I genuinely believe if her parents had been more attentive of her as a person and less on what they wanted her to be, she would’ve led a very different life.

@Darth Silver Sith No they cared more about people's perception of them.

Lucas Melo AYO we got the same last name 💯

She's trying to be deceptive and she's bad at it. This only proves something is wrong with the father-daughter relationship for her to hate him this much. Bad kid. Bad father. Sad situation.

She must have really hated her parents. You would think she would be in shock. She does talk like she’s just lost her purse.

You could tell that she was annoyed by his scream.

Raimon Estañol They just wanted their daughter to have a good life. Some parents don’t always go about it the best of ways but some kids also need a firmer hand to stay on the right path. At that age, it’s very easy to get set on a path that leads to nothing but disaster and pain and good parents will do almost anything to correct it. Idk, just my two cents.

It just looks like she was trying to describe a noise. Didn’t look like mock at all.

@Raimon Estañol
Its honestly bittersweet
They made here feel trapped and alone when at the core of their intentions was that they just wanted the best for their daughter
Either way i dont think they deserved  what happened, especially to the father; his wife was killed, he survived, and his own daughter was the cause of it all
If i were in his shoes, i think I'd wish I'd died along with the person i loved

Honestly, I don't think her parents are much less psychopathic

yeah, that moment blew my mind. so disgusting...


Imagine being the child of a detective. The first thing you'll learn is "don't even try to lie."

Sitting in a room with a person they know is guilty is totally different than a child that can read their parents like a book.

Child of a cop here and we learn to lie flawlessly

I was raised by a detective, and yeah. I couldnt get away with shit haha

And that’s why I always tell the truth around my dad

the first thing you learn is: get a lawyer!

I'd imagine the first thing you learn is don't be a fucking criminal. No need to lie if you live an honest life.

I knew an english guy whose father was a cop. The guy was the biggest liar i ever met.

Or it could be a great way to learn to be a good liar.😉lol

Imagine a interrogation of a child with a family of detectives

Man from watching these videos I learned that life is so much more relaxing when you DONT murder people

@UnknownGamer40464 My parents were both private investigators, and I can confirm, I an a very good liar

They'd probably end up actually being the best liars.

You would grow up to be the Michael Jordan of lying and how to detect a lie😂

Well that's honestly not true. Of she woildve just shut up it woildve been her dads word against her. Alot of people get away with lying lol. You think these detectives bat 1.000 or something? Lol

Try telling that to the central park victims.

You don't need to be a child of a detective to know not to grow up and lie

Unless your IQ is like 150+ or sth... I mean, it is possible, but you have to be extremely skilled, experienced and talented liar and actor

i am that child. and yeah, you cannot lie for the LIFE of you. it’s an interesting life.

@Funnycow yeah i just dont understand why you would hide the cookie jar in the first place

@Gughffhhghg Ghghgg Yeah thats actually a good point. If you hide it then the cookies won't get reffiled.

@H H my plan is this good man. fack is spelled fuck. also you said "I make also joke free of free." what does that mean???

@AStrandedHushPuppie ok old  i make also joke free of free and what the Fack else I want to do and say so what's yr plan now?

I feel like the child would be an even better liar since they'd get so often tested by professionals

@H H alright kiddo we all hear ya. just know that natalie literally just made a joke about if ur parent was a detective.

My grandma always said:"whoever lies needs a really good memory." Every time i watch those videos, i understand that even the best memory would not stand up to the test of those guys.

@The Most Intersting Man In The World i didn't try so you can get it ,is yr problem

Explaining a joke once?
Yeah I didn’t get it

Explaining it multiple people?
Delivery needs improvement bud

@Funnycow no I was joking about it ,you don't get it

@H H I mean @Natalie Yeung just made a joke about something lighthearted. They didn't remotely suggest murder they just though the concept of having an investigator as a parent would make lying as a child really hard. It was funny. You then accused us all of laughing at the death of a people. 2 totally different things.

@Heather like the subject of the video. it is funny!!???<br> I also made a joke like the one above when there is no respect

@Heather like the subject of the video. it is funny!!???
 I also made a joke like the one above when there is no respect