Imagine being the officer interviewing her, feeling for this poor girl and her family, only to slowly realize something isn’t right about her

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@Natasha420 The problem is, we look by western eyes on parents who grew up in a different culture. From what I have read, in the east such parenting as their is not abnormal. People have great expectations of their children and pressure them to do their best. So this parents were probably using the same parenting method that their parents had used on them. Unfortunatelly they were not in the East anymore and their children were surrounded by kids whose parents were using much different methods.<br>Anyway, no matter how harsh their methods were, they succesfully brought up her brother without him becoming a murderer, right? So the problem wasn't only in the method of upbringing it was also in the girl's character. They were strict, yes, but she could have just worked harder and find a field to excell in. Or she could have tried and then crumble under pressure and end up in a psychiatrist's care. Or she could have run away and build her life according to her own ideas. But she had chosen to lie to her parents, to take their money, falsify her study records and live a lazy and easy life. That shows a deep flaw in her character.

@Natasha420 The problem is, we look by western eyes on parents who grew up in a different culture. From what I have read, in the east such parenting as their is not abnormal. People have great expectations of their children and pressure them to do their best. So this parents were probably using the same parenting method that their parents had used on them. Unfortunatelly they were not in the East anymore and their children were surrounded by kids whose parents were using much different methods.
Anyway, no matter how harsh their methods were, they succesfully brought up her brother without him becoming a murderer, right? So the problem wasn't only in the method of upbringing it was also in the girl's character. They were strict, yes, but she could have just worked harder and find a field to excell in. Or she could have tried and then crumble under pressure and end up in a psychiatrist's care. Or she could have run away and build her life according to her own ideas. But she had chosen to lie to her parents, to take their money, falsify her study records and live a lazy and easy life. That shows a deep flaw in her character.

Detectives have to eliminate close family as suspects before looking for outsiders. It’s the best way detectives work cases. I’m sure the percentage of cases is high with the family members being guilty of murder. These officers definitely were suspicious of her from the beginning and only played nice to get her comfortable. It does suck though when it’s too good to be true 😂

@Phil Savoie well yeah… people dont go around killing everyone y know

@Phil Savoie well yeah… people dont go around killing everyone y know

one gotta be blind to to be feeling for her, especially an officer

one gotta be blind to to be feeling for her, especially an officer

Poor guy, he genuinely believed Her at first

Poor guy, he genuinely believed Her at first

@Max x "there is no motive or assumption. it is exactly as I typed."

But it's not what I typed. You should read what I typed.

"I highly doubt he thought it was abusive lol"
That's an assumption.

"what you just said is in fact, attempting to validate."
That's another assumption.

@Amber Slahlize there is no motive or assumption. it is exactly as I typed. there's nothing to analyze about what I just said. The investigator told her it was "basically abuse" because he was trying to garner her trust and gain influence with her before switching methods, I highly doubt he thought it was abusive lol. what you just said is in fact, attempting to validate.

@Max x "you're trying to validate her in murder" Let me stop you right there, 1. you are trying to assert a motive, rather than actually reading what I had to say about her.
2. "validate" is an assumption you are asserting over me.

3. Don't assume, it makes you an A** out of U and me.

@Amber Slahlize you're trying to validate her in murder because her parents pushed her to succeed in life and pay for her education and may have been a little over strict in effect. please. Sounds like quite a well off family (Mercedes & Lexus) and stable. It was premeditated murder of her parents and you're attempting to find sympathy for her. Wild

Feel bad because she’s a crying woman?! Come on we are past 2020.

Feel bad because she’s a crying woman?! Come on we are past 2020.

Must be standard protocol, suspecting the closest relatives.

Must be standard protocol, suspecting the closest relatives.

Imagine agreeing to kill someone for 1k-2k.

Imagine agreeing to kill someone for 1k-2k.

@Most High Gospel obviously I wasn’t there and neither were you but it’s clear she was emotionally abused. You don’t feel like guilt tripping and making a teenager (she was one at the time) feel like it’s their fault they had an accident and can’t figure skate anymore? Also from what I remember they basically laughed at the fact she wanted to be a piano teacher. God love your children because you won’t

@Natasha420 no she was not abused her parents wanted the best for her.And the best thing for her was getting her away from criminals

The parents share some of the blame for expecting their child to be ultra successful.

The parents share some of the blame for expecting their child to be ultra successful.

Even the Bible says the measure you give is the measure you get back. It will always be wrong too kill, but if you give your children no mercy and no empathy, you are preparing your children for severe emotional problems and you might end up regretting it.

@seen Too bad Holtzclaw wasn't the one feeling her up, she would perk up immediately!

@seen Too bad Holtzclaw wasn't the one feeling her up, she would perk up immediately!

the girl was emotionally abused all her life and yet you people speak like she is the devil reincarnated

@alex225able I had extremely strict parents too. Never thought of killing my parents. I was depressed yeah. Self harmed in unconventional ways. And then moved out at 18. Planning your parents brutal murder.. in front of you!! Is not normal reaction to strict parenting. And honestly my parents and many I know were even stricter than hers.

@alex225able yeah most children under tiger parents go for self harm then suicide.

I guess she had too much pent up unsorted hatred inside her.
Mixed feelings hatred, lack of self worth, scared, sadness, guilt etc etc....
But I believe if she had better parents she would have turned out normal..

While tiger parenting is definitely the trigger, the levels to which she descended is definitely not normal behavior. I have similar parents but while I have worked through my issues, I definitely haven't gone on to swap grades, get with the violent drug dealing crowd nor actively planned out murders. She had no plans of confessing or ever getting caught. She could turn her grief on and off like a switch. While I am no professional, there is something off about all this behavior, perhaps she has undergone some evaluation maybe some sort of diagnosis has been made.

I still feel for her tho. Her parents were awful.

I still feel for her tho. Her parents were awful.

to be honest, her parents made her do that... they treated her badly obviously otherwise nobody would kill their own parents.

When someone's willing to kill. But not kill every witness that should raise alarm bells

When someone's willing to kill. But not kill every witness that should raise alarm bells

Have you never dated a woman before, lol

Have you never dated a woman before, lol

Yeah and no legal team in the Interrogations. That's off right there.

Yeah and no legal team in the Interrogations. That's off right there.

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Pretty sure the officer already has suspicions before they even talked.

Pretty sure the officer already has suspicions before they even talked.

I'm sure after being a homicide detective for many years they seen everything

I'm sure after being a homicide detective for many years they seen everything

It's explanable how Jennifer would get twisted with that upbringing, considering no mature person around her to advice her on, and probably the limited circle of friend, and that parents reap what their sow. Also Jen, she cannot go unpunished, it is the carelesness of the young, unfortunately a rather heavy mistake. Looking at the family atmosphere its not like Jen love her parents that she get sad,its more like she's happy to finally get freed, but another jail is waiting for her. This is a case where everyone get fucked up, hopefully with this case going viral there will be more awareness how to bring up family the better way, especially for asian family.

They’re not feeling for her. They’re employees of the state who are paid to find evidence to convict people of crimes. They’re working for the prosecution, not her defence. It’s not without a bias.

@Amber Slahlize they are buttering her up.  They get to lie to her.

@Amber Slahlize they are buttering her up.  They get to lie to her.

They knew since the beginning, as the detective said, no killer would leave a witness behind to identify them. That doesn't make sense.

@A C That is ridiculous. You clearly haven't watched all the videoes on this channel. Watch the one called "innocent until proven guilty". Innocent people end up in jail literally all the time, many times because "pros" like this make mistakes all the time.

he knew it at the very first. he was just trying to get it out of her. these guys are pros, they can tell who is innocent or not in 5 seconds.

He probably sussed pretty quick that something wasn’t right with the situation if she wasn’t killed or even hurt.

She was free to be "disowned" and live with the boyfriend and figure stuff out, killing the parents wasn't beneficial at all bruh

She could have made it so much easier for herself too.

"I closed the door and hid under my bed, I heard gunshots and when I thought they left I called the cops"

Easy. Now she doesn't need to worry about tying herself up, doesn't need to worry about who did what, doesn't need to worry about how she got her phone. That's all she had to do and yet she just totally failed to think about what might happen later and what questions might be asked.

I guess she couldn't have counted on her dad miraculously surviving though. Without that massive obstacle a good lawyer might have been able to cover over her lies and inconsistencies

I don’t think he ever felt sorry, she was the prime subject from the beginning because who would just tie her up and leave behind a witness.

Yeah I would go from feeling bad for her to being extremely unsettled and creeped out

Yeah I would go from feeling bad for her to being extremely unsettled and creeped out

I was thinking the same thing I could never be a detective because the moment I realized I was face to face with the culprit of a murder case playing victim my face would go dead pan my suspicion would be blatant.

@Monaka He was too after he realized how she tried to play them for a joke.🙃

@Monaka He was too after he realized how she tried to play them for a joke.🙃

@seen more like showing compassion to the victims. they aren't going to be cold and unsympathetic but when they're trying to gain something from them, they try to gain their trust. not all detectives will show pity, but a lot will

@Haii according to the back story, her parents put a lot of pressure on her for a long time to be what they deemed successful to the point that that it could have made jen think her parents didn't care about her and more about having something to brag about. in retaliation, she decided to lie.

i'm in no way defending what she did. but that's how i read the situation. i feel extremely bad for  the way her parents went out tho :/

@Haii I'm guessing you didn't watch the video. One of the people investigating her said her parent's level of strictness was abuse. So, just think about that a moment. He even acknowledged that anyone can be driven to murder, (while he was trying to probe her to confess that she did it).

Amber Slahlize what how is her parents strict ? she lied to them while she dropped out dating some frat boy. they offered to bring her back to school for education ( probably for college too consider they got 2 fancy cars ).  how can she expect her parents to trust her and let her go out of the house do her own things right after they found out she lied to them for years ? she definitely dont deserves the death penalty rather just let her rot in jails

Well in many ways she is a "poor girl", having parents that strict...it's a tragedy to say the least, no matter which choice she made, she knew she was going to suffer immensely....so I guess she was driven to murder (not that I don't think she shouldn't be punished for having her parents murdered), it's just knowing that anyone can be driven to murder. <br>I don't think she deserves the death penalty though.

Well in many ways she is a "poor girl", having parents that strict...it's a tragedy to say the least, no matter which choice she made, she knew she was going to suffer immensely....so I guess she was driven to murder (not that I don't think she shouldn't be punished for having her parents murdered), it's just knowing that anyone can be driven to murder.
I don't think she deserves the death penalty though.

@a h exactly, the cops on the scene knew her being tied up the way she was was sus af you’re right

the guy knew before going in it was weird because she was tied up but making phone call

the guy knew before going in it was weird because she was tied up but making phone call

It's like some weird textbook example that just happens in front of you, you know it's possible but still surprised when it happens. >50% of murders are from someone the victim knew (according to data) so I'm sure they are always aware it's a possibility when doing these interviews.

@seen well in his mind, she was a "poor girl" which I'm guessing is what the person meant

@seen well in his mind, she was a "poor girl" which I'm guessing is what the person meant

Yeah. I bet he was like wait what? Girl that makes no sense, put your hands behind your back!🤣😂

Yeah. I bet he was like wait what? Girl that makes no sense, put your hands behind your back!🤣😂


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The last interrogator really is their best. Started the conversation so friendly and far away and by the end of it had her backed into a corner bawling a confession. These guys are scary good

@By yours truly it won't matter now with the new SC decision about being misrepresented during a trial. You literally will not have an appeals process to be able to submit any evidence that may not have been submitted at the original trial. If you were represented poorly, oh well sucks to be you. There will be many more innocent people in jail

Yeah I always go back to this interrogation video just to see these guys at their A game , scary good is a good way to put it !

@Muskoka Mike So like what kind of joke then? A one-liner? A bad dad joke?

@By yours truly LOL you bring up ALL cases that come before the courts but when I do, you call it "rage and seethe"?

LOL you're a joke, and not in a stand up comedian sort of way.

@By yours truly Again, unless it happens to you. "what if the DA or judge...." well, considering the evidence to exonerate the convict has to be pretty substantial to over turn the conviction, it would be an open and shut case. If they didn't give the accused a fair trial, why should THEY be entitled to one?

For eg: The judge in Michigan who ruled in her own divorce case, and was banging a cop/witness in another. She also had "sex parties" in her chambers.

Another more recently example of legal malpractice was in the Kyle Rittenhouse case: the prosecutors sent a copy of a video to the defence that ended up being low resolution compared to their copy. Their reasoning? "sending videos through emails degrades the quality"....which it doesn't, and sending a video through email DOESN'T CHANGE THE FILE NAME. Blatant legal malpractice right there. That's a blatant case of evidence tampering. Both of them should be disbarred or at the very least, sanctioned.

If you're going to open the argument that "x number of crimes/trials occur" then ok, we can discuss the amount of witness tampering, "lost evidence", evidence tampering, back room deals, blatant mistakes by judges, (a recent one that was over turned in a superior court stated that the lower court judge has no business presiding over a court room).

@Muskoka Mike With 100 million cases per year within this "god-forsaken" country ranging from traffic stops, petty theft, disorderly misconduct, up to homicide and what not, and 600000 of those convicted and sentenced, then 10 wrongful convictions is considered pretty rare.

The justice system isn't exactly perfect, but what i said about their tactics of interrogation is needed to get the absolute truth from the deceitful and coercive. My condolences to the wrongfully convicted but it is what it is.

What you just said at the end contradicts to your whole view of the wrongfully convicted. Everybody has a right to fair trial, what if a judge or DA gets wrongfully convicted themselves, just defeats your purpose of your whole argument.

@By yours truly Really rare? you don't seem to care that innocent people are tried convicted and sentenced.

Yes, they can tell if you are actually innocent or guilty, sometimes, but in many cases, they don't care. They just want to close the case and the DA just wants a conviction. Numerous DAs and Judges have been caught hiding evidence that proves the accused innocent.

I guess that's ok with you as long as it doesn't happen to YOU right?

IMO opinion if any cop, investigator, DA or Judge knowingly charges or convicts an innocent person they should automatically face double the prison time that person would or has served. Summary sentencing, no trial.

BTW: 10 a year since 1989 if you want to know the stats.

@Muskoka Mike That's really rare. People that are guilty are sent away for 20 years, these techinques are implemented to be used against manipulators, deceivers, and liars, as they are tough nuts to crack. If interrogated with no guilt, they can also see that you are also telling the truth, by body language, choice of words, and emotional responses.

She said at the end I thought you were on my side😢 haha

@Muskoka Mike I wholeheartedly agree. I watched his video about those two people who were both innocent but the differences in their defense. The first guy honestly made me irate because he wasn’t defending himself like an innocent person should in that situation...ended up serving hard time. He was just so calm and relaxed smh

The problem is: they are so good they get people to confess even though they've done nothing wrong. It's a real issue. They use psychological techniques to break down someone to the point where they will confess just to get the pressure to stop. People have been sent away for 20 years due to these techniques.

Yes they are good just like Columbo I call it the Colombo method


The detective said it best.  She was a 24 year old women being treated like a 15 year old.  Mentally, she was probably even younger than 15.  Being emotionally abused and not having parents that even cared about her mental health drove her to find solace in a deadbeat boyfriend that most likely encouraged her to commit the crime.  It was a perfect storm if you will.

@Ruby Blue the parents savings was DEFINITELY a factor to the bf.

@Charlie B you might be right that there would be a double standard. it's not a double standard i'm making. jeff dahmer was a killer who could've been prevented. it's not rationalizing, but yes, let's analyze the backstories for both sexes.

@Charlie B No one is spinning the “poor little girl” angel, people are spinning the “my parents were abusive too and I understand angel”, and if society has taught us anything, especially with jurors, it’s men who spin the “poor little girl” story and fall head over heels for it. Just men, and other women like the woman shown in the video, no level headed, normal woman is ever going to agree with the “poor little girl” rhetoric.

@LucilleB They didn't force her to move back, they just told her to either be an adult and fend for herself, or be a child and go back to their house. She chose to be a child.

@applespotty 223 the problem is the sexism angle, had this been a male sitting here, no one would be trying to rationalize it for him. It's the reason we need to get over women being weak little victims in our society. And pushing the "poor little girl" angle does a disservice to women everywhere. I agree with what you are saying, but if you can only do it for one gender, I'm sorry, you're sexist and we need to go back to treating ppl equally, even if that hurts.

@SpiffyPenguin I would agree but her parents never were taught how to work or live a normal life, they were Vietnamese immigrants (war and poverty, no homes just shacks barely and lack of food). She definitely could’ve figured it out if she wanted to, many people do, she’s just a crappy person, she was smart enough to forge grades and diplomas she could’ve did a lot.

@Yavor Angelov any dog no matter how kind, small and harmless will bite with all its might when it's cornered and there is no way to go. It's a self-preservation instinct.<br>People who, in cases like this, pontificate about "good" and "evil" does not have a slightest idea about amount psychological pressure some people go through, what it does to their minds and to what extent they will go to free themselves from it.

@Yavor Angelov any dog no matter how kind, small and harmless will bite with all its might when it's cornered and there is no way to go. It's a self-preservation instinct.
People who, in cases like this, pontificate about "good" and "evil" does not have a slightest idea about amount psychological pressure some people go through, what it does to their minds and to what extent they will go to free themselves from it.

U know it’s 4 in the morning girl and I gotta go

@SpiffyPenguin Yeah, when I was 24 I was still living with my parents because my father had broken me down psychologically so much that I thought I was incapable of living by myself. I thought about killing him plenty of times. It was only having my sister offer me to come live with her that got me out. I didn't even really believe I could make it, moving out felt reckless and illogical, but I was at the end of my rope and I had to do something "extreme"

Very eloquently put. Adding onto this, it seems like when she suffered her injury that halted her dreams of pursuing figure skating and was abruptly forced to readjust her life expectations at such a young age would've been so mentally damaging on top of the strictness of her parents. That must have been crushing, and the lack of sympathy from her parents also feeds into this perfect storm. This girl needed psychological help when she was a teenager. This could have put her on a different path. What she did was awful and horrific, and yes she was justly charged with what she did. But imagine the countless other families out there that treat their children this way. It's a cut and dry case where I have sympathy for the devil.

I see what you’re saying, however, there’s always an excuse. She admitted herself she had been given the opportunity and option  to leave. She consciously chose to remain with the intention of continuing to see her boyfriend and began a premeditated plan to kill her parents. There are always mitigating circumstances in any kind of case like this, yes her parents had high expectations of Jennifer but clearly their intentions were only in her best interests. What she went on to do proves she needed guidance as her own decisions were pretty atrocious such as doing this. The fact is she was a 24 year old woman who CHOSE to remain with her parents. She CHOSE to continue to see her boyfriend. She CHOSE to have her parents killed. Let’s stop making excuses for what she did, because what she did was abhorrent.

@applespotty 223 It was about money.
She could have left, but then she wouldn't get any insurance money or any inheritance from her parents. Her parents seem to have done well for themselves (drove a Mercedes and Lexus), she wanted that wealth.

I am sure she and her drug dealer boyfriend were conspiring to steal her parents fortune. Spend it all on drugs probably.

Afterall, if all she wanted to do was get away and be with her boyfriend, she was allowed to do that. She would just lose access to her parents money. No, what she and her boyfriend really wanted, was cash.

@Clare Shaughnessy I'm speaking directly about the boyfriend part - hence why the rest of my comment specifically talked about how it was her planning, and her convincing him. As was shown through the evidence.<br>People have a tendency to completely remove all agency when it comes to women doing bad things. We're all people, we make our own decisions; man or woman.

@Clare Shaughnessy I'm speaking directly about the boyfriend part - hence why the rest of my comment specifically talked about how it was her planning, and her convincing him. As was shown through the evidence.
People have a tendency to completely remove all agency when it comes to women doing bad things. We're all people, we make our own decisions; man or woman.

@iIliterati he’s not saying she wasn’t responsible. He’s pointing out, so other parents can see, that your children are what you make ‘em. It’s not enough to think only about them obeying you in the moment like a puppy. It’s not only about whether or not she has the correct career. You are making a new adult. You want them to be well rounded, to have emotional, educational, personal, moral, integrity and intelligence.

Jesus, just remove all of her agency. You're one sentence away from saying she was coerced to do it.
She made the decisions, she planned it all, and she convinced the boyfriend.
Just because she's a woman doesn't mean she instantly not responsible for her actions. Disgusting type of sexism shown here.

Yeah, the problem is that shame is one of THE most powerful emotions and can utterly control a person. The parents ruled her under the threat of shame. She was totally immersed in their cult and they actually brought her up to be weak. They deliberately did not want her to be strong enough to make her own choices. As you say, it’s not an excuse for murder, but it certainly sets the scene. It’s the law of unintended consequences

@Yavor Angelov I understand a murder case is horrific and awful but you’re making a lot of assumptions.

To say she was “free to leave” and say she just wanted to live off of her parents sounds like you assume she had been adequately prepared by her parents to live an independent life. She wasn’t. And there are plenty of resources available for you to learn about the life she had before and how her parents raised her.

It wasn’t as simple as her just wanting money. Her parents did not send her into the world to work and earn an income to support herself. They wanted her to follow a very specific path and the path did not include giving her the life skills to be independent. Because being independent means she could deviate from the path.

I’m not suggesting murder was the only way or the best way. But I have to say, your insistence that she could have just left is ignorant of many components in this case.

@Yavor Angelov if you believe that there’s never a reason, good or bad, for murder then do you just think some people are born with a seed of badness

@applespotty 223 yes. The best method to fight crimes is to prevent them. Same goes for criminals.

@applespotty 223 of course people are angry at the insinuation that it was provoked. At the age of 18 she was free to get out of her home and even never talk to her parents ever again. What she did was keep trying to live off of her parents' help, while lying that she obeys them, till she eventually murdered them.

Being strict to someone doesn't make a murderer. Regardless of how strict. That's why murder is "wrong" and "evil", because there's never any good or bad reason for it(there's literally no circumstances where it's legit to think "I have to kill X because of Y"). So, please, strict parents only mean strict parents. It doesn't mean murderer factory.

Holy shit she was 24??! I haven't finished the video yet but my god she looks so young, she looks like a teenager. I didn't live under a fraction of the control she did with her parents and I literally contemplated murdering my parents from the stress, but thought "nah I'd definitely get caught and go to jail, it'll be easier to just stick it out and get away once I'm old enough."
Doesn't help that both my parents have a history of mental health issues lol but seriously, when you feel like you have no way out of that kind of desperate situation you start thinking in terms of survival. Suicide comes easily to mind but when it's your own parents abusing you, murder can seem like an appealing option too.
I'm just so sad for the wonderful life she could have lived if only her parents weren't such insane and controlling pieces of shit. She literally could have gone to the Olympics but that didn't mean anything to them once she became injured. Disgusting and sad.

Holy shit she was 24??! I haven't finished the video yet but my god she looks so young, she looks like a teenager. I didn't live under a *fraction* of the control she did with her parents and I literally contemplated murdering my parents from the stress, but thought "nah I'd definitely get caught and go to jail, it'll be easier to just stick it out and get away once I'm old enough."
Doesn't help that both my parents have a history of mental health issues lol but seriously, when you feel like you have no way out of that kind of desperate situation you start thinking in terms of survival. Suicide comes easily to mind but when it's your own parents abusing you, murder can seem like an appealing option too.
I'm just so sad for the wonderful life she could have lived if only her parents weren't such insane and controlling pieces of shit. She literally could have gone to the Olympics but that didn't mean anything to them once she became injured. Disgusting and sad.

I agree. Her parents made her move back in when she was 24-years old. There was something seriously wrong with them as well.

@FFF nobody said he organised it, just that he definitely encouraged the idea and may have been the catalyst. She didn’t do it herself, if she’d never met someone with those kinds of connections it may never have happened. It’s still her fault and her doing, but the circumstances still matter.

she was the one who organized the crime not the bf

@applespotty 223 This there's a huge difference between being ok with murder and acknowledging the probable reason the murder happened. They weren't good parents and I'm kinda sick of people pretending like EXPECTING their children to go into a medical career is somehow wanting the best for them.

@applespotty 223 I agree wholeheartedly. Couldn't have said it better

The silly thing is a lot of people in the comments are angry at those pointing this out. We know murder is bad. We know she’s in the wrong. That doesn’t mean we can’t analyze the situation and decide where such a destructive and risky decision comes from. If anything it’s better this way. We need to know what makes a murderer so that less will be made.


Wow, these detectives are sometimes scarier than the criminals. It is fascinating to behold how they can manipulate someone to share their deepest and darkest secrets using only charisma.

@Daniel Duncan So what you're saying is that we should send her to somewhere worse than prison, because she doesn't deserve to feel free.

Sometimes I fear that because they’re so good at their job that they would make the best criminals…

Yeah, charisma is the last thing I would attribute it to. It's called years of training and experience in psychological manipulation and taking advantage of ignorance of theaw on behalf of the suspect. If she was smart (in the context of wanting to get away w it anyway, not condoning her actions) she would never have set foot in that police station after the initial encounter with the first detective and then just laid low and kept her damn mouth shut. But, she was making decisions based on emotions and not on logic.

But it's absolutely fucked up that police are allowed to lie to get confessions, especially given how often it leads to false or coerced confessions which land innocent people in jail and the actual perpetrator remaining at large.

They also have procedures for asking the right questions etc. Its forensic psychology. So yes, charisma but also decades of interrogation knowledge

@Paradoxapuss Darkshadow agreed but the deception part might get me. I bet they're mad good at it

When you max our your Charisma and Speech skills:

Yea these room are specifically made for you to incriminate yourself as much as possible

They put all point in charisma and intelligence.

"Only charisma"? They also use deception and fear among other tactics.

If they didnt do that then criminals like her would never get recognised for their crimes

I'd probably be nervous regardless if I was guilty or not.

It is important to note that they have done to actually innocent people and got the same results.  Doesn't mean they shouldn't do it, but it is important to remember that.  If you ever find yourself in a room like that, regardless of the circumstances, whether you are guilty or innocent, even if you are a witness, you need a lawyer.

And for her, specifically, her guilty verdict was a relief.  The prison she is in right now is a virtual heaven compared to what her life was like before all of this.  She was already in prison, she was a prisoner her entire life.  Even after her parents were shot, one of them dead, and she was temporarily free of them, she was still in a prison of her own making.  I know this because I used to have my own prison, and jail set me free of it.


"because if you are lying then it's the most cold blooded thing I've faced in my life" guilt trip her so hard that I felt it as well.

What I don't get, is why she didn't just say the robbers panicked and fled after her parents were not compliant with the robbers and they shot them. I mean I'm glad she didn't but she could have given any number of plausible reasons why the robbers didn't kill her.

That wasnt a guilt trip that was a guilt vacation 😭

Late but could anyone timestamp this quote please?

@Boris von Alpenberg she didnt kill them, she couldnt. She just saw the negative things her parents did through a lens, but was caught on a pebble of their positive actions. Thats why she couldn't kill them directly

I felt nothing idk what that says about me

@Augmented1989 -0- fr made me feel like i committed the crime

So crazy that I scrolled down right at this part and saw the comment at the same exact time

same i felt like i had to personally apologize

@S W L K she didn't do it for the money lol

HE SAID THIS JUST AS I READ THIS COMMENT. THE CHILLS I FELT OMG.

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@0Thianna0 Thank you. It is 'hanacaraka' in javanese

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Eh, probably didn't do much to her, though. If she literally arranged for her parents to be murdered and didn't shed so much as a single tear at her mother's funeral, I doubt hearing that would've suddenly wracked her with guilt.

@Underyourbedeyes 😂😂😂 he said it with so much conviction that i was hit with flashbacks of my old mistakes, felt attacked 😂

.<br>idk. I might've felt a bit proud y'know

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idk. I might've felt a bit proud y'know

Right at that moment you see her face dark and scary. The murderous soul came out.


23:24   Hermosa elección XXLOVEZZZ.UNO
los mortales abian apreciado tan hermosa mujer

00:18 Joonie:
Cooler
18:10 Yoongy:
Butter
10:20 Hopi:
11:12 Sun:
Sweeter
Hotter

23:23 Son unos de los mejores conciertos
mañas no se la v0E6

Las elecciones cinematográficas y artísticas son brillantes. Referencias culturales europeas realmente interesantes. Ojalá la cultura europea se representara más a menudo tan bellamente. No puedo dejar de decir "oh, esto es hermoso" a lo largo del video. Luz, en serio... el que se encargue de la iluminación, genial...


9:42 What is trauma actually do to you
11:58 Seeking for approval
17:30 Sudden change of emotion
21:16 Self Pacifying gesture, uncomfortable or fearful of what lies ahead. Coping mechanism
22:42 It's hard to convicingly act out an emotion while evaluating question. Again, can be followed by suddden changes of act when inquired over the same elements
24:00 Interjection, the example of the 22:42 statement
25:02 Again, the moment of 22:42
28:35 Like praying that she gives the correct response
28:59 Asking how the contradiction comes up
33:59 Doesnt wipes the eyes or blow the nose, fake sorrow
36:47 GIve a little bit of pressure after some relieve

Part 2, more experienced investigator
47:51 Manipulation starts from the beginning. You may set the room layout to give them some pressure
58:46 How and Why just being executed
58:54 Next step, confrontation. Divide into 2 sub-step: 1. Fatigue; 2. Fear
59:53 Offer no reassurance on fake emotion
1:01:28 Jumps from beginning, middle, end, back to beginning again, to induced Fatigue as to diminish Suspect critical thinking
1:02:53 Induce fear, "The Futility Tehcnique". Told the suspect that it is useless to resist any observation that investigator does
1:04:34 Before initiate Confrontation, make sure the suspect need to feel that the investigator is on their side
1:06:08 Direct Confrontation, at closer distance
1:09:00 Being emphatic yet at the same time keep the suspect confidence low
1:13:45 Appealing Compassion
1:15:16 When the question are incriminating, suspect are usually remain silent
1:16:46 The first moment she was being authentic
1:17:37 She admitted to planning home invasion all along. Not an outright confession, just decided from her response

Thank you so much. I appreciate your comment

Someone has a lot of time on their hands…

With the case of the second investigator, I don't think it necessarily has to do with experience, but rather circumstance. Jennifer was classified as a witness with the first detective, however, was classified as a suspect with the second detective. So the strategy had to change, but both detectives are experienced.

The time you took to watch it and to comment, 🙏

@Claudible he would never, that would negatively impact the watch time lol

@don’t at me tf so that people like me can just skip over the info quickly and save time lol

@don’t at me tf because some people just want to skim through it to get to the best parts

@don’t at me tf so that people can look back on information when they notice something in the video, and can correlate certain behaviours and choices to past ones.

thank you for the summary! it's good to look back on when noticing certain details and aspects of jennifer's performance.

This is such a good contribution. Thank you.

@Menibor1 Right? It must've at least taken one and a half hours.

Thank you! Your list should be a pinned comment.


The whole faking of her grades and education may have been a bit too self empowering for her. She truly started to think she was smarter than everyone once she realized her extremely intelligent parents could easily be fooled by her.

@a the high expectations are from the lack of success achieved from the parents therefore projecting their desires onto their children as a success story

I wish I could say her parents were extremely intelligent, nut treating you child like that only shows how close minded and dim you are, this would have never happened if they treated her normally or with st least a little dignity and respect and gave her credit in what she liked to do :( it pains me to see families like this

@Clare Shaughnessy no, that’s more of a problem woman find themselves in

@Amina Kanat ofcourse u get murdered? Gosh, that’s a bold statement to say

@Jon Cook they probably just assumed that since the parents had high expectations,they would've been raised the same and been smart to

I imagine the exact opposite. She does it once to get out of trouble. After that she has to do it again and again until she ends up in a situation so complicated, with the pressure getting higher and higher and she becomes more and more desperate. Haven’t you ever told one lie only for it to lead to another then another until it spins totally out of control?

If her parents were normal, she wouldn't do that. None of this would happen if they only weren't that stupid to only see academical knowledge in their child. Of course that happened when you treat your child like this.

I think the whole faking of her grades was entirely driven by extreme shame.

Maybe "self empowering" in the case that it gets her overly controlling parents off her back. Not justifying her actions at all. Just saying "Asian parent strictness" is no joke, yo. It can seriously be a whoooole other level than what most people consider as very strict.

exactly what i was thinking.. how did she possibly make those fake doucuments coz nowadays everything is so strict.

@Jon Cook, I don't think the parent is that bright either, so they got the kid the same as them. The mother didn't even try to learn more English after living a long time in Canada.

Yeah, getting away with shit as a kid is not a good thing.

"Extremely intelligent"? What did Jennifer's parents do or what profession were either of them in for you to think that?


I do have empathy for her, but what she did was horrific. There are parents that are too strict with their kids and it causes irreparable harm. I wish she would’ve chosen to leave and live her life. No one would would have died. No winners here. I’m so sorry her mother died and that her dad was seriously injured. I’m thankful he’s made quite a remarkable recovery.

@Nick financially comfortable was what I meant. yes, her parents were abusive but if it weren't for her parents' money she would be broke and that wasn't what she wanted. her parents gave her an ultimatum: live with her bf who couldn't support her financially or stay with her parents and continue her studies and wouldn't have to worry about finances. she couldn't accept both choices so she created a third choice apparently which is get rid of her parents so she could have the money and be free

@catherine elise Living as a 24 year old treated like a 15 year old with the world's expectations and 0 support hardly sounds "comfortable". It sounds rather stressful and borderline abusive, the kind of concoction that corrupts a person after 24 years.

she was probably living a comfortable life bc of her parents so leaving them would mean that she has to provide for herself alone and clearly she wasn't capable of that without money


the sheer amount of patience these detectives have is insane

The sheer amount of blood lust these killers have is insane.

An example of that on this particular YouTube channel is the interrogation of Jodi Arias by Mesa AZ Police detective Esteban Flores and Siskiyou County CA Sheriff's detective Rachel Blaney in July of 2008 in regards to the violent murder of Jodi's ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander. Detective Flores had a mind-boggling level of patience with Jodi as she was going on and on about topics that had nothing to do with the murder of Travis. Detective Blaney on the other hand had no desire to listen to Jodi's insufferable ramblings.

They have to catch her as many times in contradictions in her sharade as possible. It helps them to get a case.

That's their job. This is not for everybody. It takes to be that kind of a person.

And in the end they found 10000 text massages lmfao

And in the end they found 10000 text massages lmfao

its there job to be fucking godly patience.

its there job to be fucking godly patience.

I know! I could never be a defective, a copy. I have no patience for idiots, rude people, or liars. I’ll stick to  working with animals .

It’s baffling after hearing that poor man scream on the phone, the detective is capable of being lied to, to his face, without planting her face firmly into the wall. I couldn’t do it.

@Owlet still not a reason for her to have them killed

@i was born at a very young age being a cop isn’t really the same as being black or Asian or whatever else though. Being a cop is a choice, you can’t choose what race you are. Just saying.

@Goner Kid I do think the lying about how much evidence they have on you is unethical.

no fr especially in cases where they already know what’s up! i hate when people lie to my face

It's not patience, it's intentional. They're building rapport and getting the person to feel more familiar and comfortable around them. They're actually getting a positive emotional reaction from you just watching them talk to these people for so long. It's the same principle and all choreographed. Read "The Like Switch," and "The Truth Detector." How they act is designed to get people to relate to them, and people like who they know and relate to.

@Me, myself and I: and this is why so many ppl don’t become cops because even if they pass every other test, they’ll fail the psychological test and many DONT become cops because of it. I know this all too well. The psych test is very tricky, u can’t hide your true self. If you’re a racist jerk for example, it will come out. But not all police depts have great psychologists. And many bad ppl slip thru and become cops. I have a cop family so I know a lot about this.

It’s THEIR job. Our high taxes pay their salary. Most of them are lazy and just want to make an arrest, they don’t care who just anyone so they can close the case.

Right? I can barely do stuff I like for 4 hours lol.

Low key this is entertaining to see her attempt to trick you

I think if you're good at being methodic, you don't need to be patient

I would be throwing up by now if I was her.  I have anxiety and I didn’t do anything

@asian girl i don't understand but most like was someing taking out of context i joke around a lot

@Gabe HappyFeet Tucker I agree. Their partners are most likely murders, or associate with immoral humans in the police force.

That, and staying in track and keeping details straight in their own heads. It's insane!

I blame the parents not only did they force her to get straight A's... rather than trying to understand why she  did what she did they gave her an ultimatum forcing her to go thought the same shit Again are they that blind not to notice their own biases ...

Patience is one of the main quality they need

Patience is one of the main quality they need

@Brannon Winchester probably salary more likely

@Brannon Winchester probably salary more likely

@Leilarna relief, even. Maybe in some cases you're unsure they actually did it and fear that you're harassing an innocent.

Ikr? I'm here watching and cussing her out..... I couldn't do what these detectives do.

@Craig Nowhere bruh acting like women detectives don’t exist ☠☠

@Craig Nowhere yes men are proven to be more rational, logical, but these guys are experts

You don’t need patience if you enjoy what you do. Obviously there’s something exciting about solving crimes like a game and/or a puzzle. Ya know?

@Gabe HappyFeet Tucker why wud u say that? They have studied much more than cops and these detectives are EXPERTS bringing g justice .

It’s kinda their job to stay calm and patient to get everything they need

Honestly it's so cool! As well as the psychological manipulation presented. It's so so effective and really tangled the suspects in their words. These detectives are so smart and how well it works on guilt and emotion is insane!!

@ZangBang it's true what you say. I'm pretty accepting of myself though and I feel most people are not and I see those very people generalize too but they wont ever accept that that they generalize but speak truth and with entitlement enough any opinion they will have formed be treated as perfectly correct..I also was just saying shit to be funny though I'm sure some didn't see the humor i do apologize for what it is worth but what's good is that I do have that right. You know damn well any cop will exercise his rights and also exercise in ways not right but sneaky in attempts to convincing we don't have right with lies most typically. look all people cops. gangs all people are both good and bad but guess what only one category or us all are the ones with a badge. both dirty as all fuck but one with authority and one not

@Gabe HappyFeet Tucker generalizing a bit there

@Gabe HappyFeet Tucker generalizing a bit there

Seriously, after 10 minutes I would lose patience and be like "BITCH SHUT YO ASS UP I KNOW YOU DID IT JUST SAY IT" which would just cause them to stay silent the rest of the interview LMAO.


What’s crazy is that if she would’ve pretended to sneak out that night, like a delinquent heading off to a party or club or something, and in those hours the attack happen, she would’ve had a solid alibi, and it would’ve worked. All she needed was a few extra thoughts for the plan to work.

@Crucix right, the burner phone did her in

additionally, it could have been suspicious itself because maybe she wanted to eliminate all risk of them killing her or of avoiding anything so that she can relax while it happens, and she wouldnt have been able to make the suicide excuses either

i dont think that strategy of sneaking out like a delinquet would work, even if the burner phones weren't found. it is something she would have had to been doing for a long time already, and that would've never occurred to her because she didn't seriously plan to kill her parents until much later.

@Crucix plus the burner phone conversations were still recorded so she would've definitely gotten caught either way

@Husker

I agree completely. I think she would have been caught eventually too. I was just saying she was stupid for deciding to be there when it went down 😂

She still probably would have gotten caught, but she would have at least had a better chance if she "snuck out."

@Crucix

Absolutely it was a mistake, but I think it was intentional. It had to have crossed her mind whether or not she should be there or wanted to be there when her parents get murdered.

But I still think she would’ve been caught if she wasn’t there. The detectives would have been looking for a reason they were targeted. She still likely would’ve acted sketchy when they brought her in for questioning. They would’ve found out about her troubled relationship with her parents… It may have taken longer but I think they would have caught her eventually.

@Husker

And that was a horrendous mistake on her part

I think she wanted to be there when it happened…

Not only that but she traumatized herself too.  This plan could’ve went smoothly if they actually had thought about it a little more. But either way she got caught so thank god.

Or like literally being anywhere. Being in the house was such a stupid decision for her.

@𝓚𝓸𝓲𝓼𝓾𝓾

She definitely got close, which is scary. And sneaking out before it went down would definitely have been a smarter move.

But hey, like you said, as long as she got caught!

@Crucix ah! Correct. I suppose a physical chat would’ve worked best but then again wasn’t there a recording of the men entering through a neighbors camera footage? Oh well, glad she was caught, interest to see how it all played out.

Almost. There's still the burner phone recordings of her talking to the hitmen.

sounds like you have maybe had some experience? lol kidding

Su estilo de vida sedentaria de "libertad condicional" de encierro en su morada le impedía cavilar esa posibilidad que era imposible en su mente


What i find the most disturbing is that what she went through with her parents is extremely common, though this is on another level. It’s really heartbreaking to see an entire family literally fall apart over toxic expectations and emotional abuse. This doesn’t excuse her crimes, only explains the emotional reasoning to why…

What I find more disturbing is the people defending the parents behavior. Granted, they didn't deserve to die, but it sounds like they were very emotionally abusive and distant from a daughter that was hungry for some love and support, and so she ran into the arms of a dirtbag drug dealer. I can understand wanting your child to always give their best effort, but that's very different from somebody berating/becoming emotionally distant from their child the moment they're less than perfect.

It doesnt explain shit.<br>She was given the option to leave and be disowned but she didnt do that because she still needed their 'her parents' money. Thats why she did this.

It doesnt explain shit.
She was given the option to leave and be disowned but she didnt do that because she still needed their 'her parents' money. Thats why she did this.

@J Hemphill The step below I referred to was instead of a constant threat of disowning it was berating and insulting for doing anything less than perfection.

@The Louster That <i>would</i> be toxic, but you said one step below that, so not actually that? Yeah, I figure your problems don't stem entirely from them. What's even more toxic than what you describe is the fad of throwing one's strict but well-intentioned parents under the bus to be presumed accountable for any and all of one's personal woes. Grow up and take some responsibility for your own life, man.

@The Louster That _would_ be toxic, but you said one step below that, so not actually that? Yeah, I figure your problems don't stem entirely from them. What's even more toxic than what you describe is the fad of throwing one's strict but well-intentioned parents under the bus to be presumed accountable for any and all of one's personal woes. Grow up and take some responsibility for your own life, man.

@J Hemphill Expecting your child to be the best of the best at everything they do 24/7 and threatening total abandonment at the slightest slip up is absolutely toxic. I have parents who are only one step below that and it’s permanently damaged my confidence, self-esteem, and work ethic.

Toxic expectations on the part of the parents? Not hardly, though they had high expectations to be sure. As for the juvenile, yes it's hard to grow up right. That's why it's a challenge. A lot of them fail to live up to the bar, but going off the rails as severely as she did is an aberration which, though tragic, should not affect parenting practices in the slightest.

@Flori You can be empathetic and still abhor her actions. Her parents were horrible to her, and horrible parenting creates horrible people. She's still responsible for her actions. That doesn't mean her parents didn't put her in the situation where she felt like she needed murder as an out. If they had given Jen an actually good childhood, things would have been different.

yeah i kinda want to be empathetic... but she had another choice, to cut them off, she just didn't want to have to work. She wanted their insurance or inheritance bc she was lazy.

@Glod Mod Maybe her thinking was like "i hate my parents so much, the only good thing they could possibly give me is money". She grew so aphatetic and angry that she stopped seeing them as parents, and just wanted them to stop getting in her way. This is just me trying to explain, tough, i don't defend the parents nor her.

Well it was also because she was being a bit greedy to she was also planning to steal all their money ://


I’m not defending murder but it’s amazing how many of these cases are related to bad parenting

I know it’s easy for a lot of people to relate to the defendant, but remember this: did you ever consider doing something this horrible to your parents? This is an entirely different level of evil that people like you and I couldn’t ever imagine.

Are some of y’all oki??!!! Yea some parents are messed up but stop straight blaming other parents for all their kids failures. People make their decisions, sometimes good or bad. People who push you further in life most of the time has your best interest. Especially when parents who had a terrible start to life, they push their kids to be better and to survive this crazy world. Your child is not going to go far without being push to do things. This might be a cheesy saying to some of y’all but you can bring a horse to water but can’t make it drink. I’m not saying parents who put unbelievable high expectations aren’t being ridiculous.

@Frances Prendergast <br>And there's a HUGE difference between a child failing to meet expectations, and dropping out then lying about it and then getting involved with a drug dealer. By the sound of things, they weren't even the type of parents who forced their kids to do a specific job, just to get an education. She wanted to be a figure skater, there was no indication that they were against that. No "No, be a doctor".

@Frances Prendergast
And there's a HUGE difference between a child failing to meet expectations, and dropping out then lying about it and then getting involved with a drug dealer. By the sound of things, they weren't even the type of parents who forced their kids to do a specific job, just to get an education. She wanted to be a figure skater, there was no indication that they were against that. No "No, be a doctor".

@Midir " It's not a parent's job to be friends with their kids" <br>Raising properly =/= being their friend. Emotional abuse =/= parenting. Got it?

@Midir " It's not a parent's job to be friends with their kids"
Raising properly =/= being their friend. Emotional abuse =/= parenting. Got it?

Amazing? I think u mean fascinating or shocking...

Amazing? I think u mean fascinating or shocking...

@Akh Las I didn't see your previous comment when I answered...yeah India is Asia. It just sounds kinda wrong when people classify India as if it's not part of Asia. Asian have diversity people tho, not just the typical stereotype of Asia like people in East Asia (Japan, SK, China etc) as a lot of Western people think.  Btw Myanmar is in SEA/Southeast Asia

@Akh Las brah what are with Asian and Indian parents?? India is a part of Asia aka desi's Asian. Asia are East Asia (Japan, china, SK, NK, Mongolia etc), Southeast Asia (PH, Indo, Thai, Viet, Singapore, Malay etc), South Asia (India, Pakistan, Nepal etc), & Central Asia (Uzbek, Kazakh etc).

@HiddenGodful well, firstly, my guess is, in a very traditional household, the boy was treated very differently from the girl. Secondly, it’s been long studied that women react very differently from men to the same kind of treatment. Finally, she wasn’t a child, she acts like one, but she’s 25 apparently. <br>It’s a bit like drunk driving isn’t it. It doesn’t always end up in a disaster, but you’re certainly increasing the chance that it will

@HiddenGodful well, firstly, my guess is, in a very traditional household, the boy was treated very differently from the girl. Secondly, it’s been long studied that women react very differently from men to the same kind of treatment. Finally, she wasn’t a child, she acts like one, but she’s 25 apparently.
It’s a bit like drunk driving isn’t it. It doesn’t always end up in a disaster, but you’re certainly increasing the chance that it will

@Midir no it's not. So many children commit suicide in Asia because of their grades. Parents don't give them love, so they seek it from bad people, like drug dealers.

@Midir being a rough parent is being a bad parent. Parents should be a comfort zone to their child. Or a child will seek love from someone else. From a drug addict, for example.

@LisaKirova you did the right thing. Parents should treat their children as actual human beings.

@Frances Prendergast I completely disagree. Disowning means that they're not to be given the inheritance. I see absolutely no reason to assume that children should be entitled to their parents possessions, and I see many different reasons why the parents would be completely justified in deciding not to inherit anything to their children.

@Francisco Rivas your view is exactly what perpetuates bad parenting. If the parents act in "a socially acceptable way", nobody acts like that way is ever a problem. You think this girl just up one day and was like "gee my parents sure love me. I'm akill em now."? No reason at all?

If a parenting style leads to bad outcomes, its never a problem unless you personally disagree with it. What about the girl? What really leaf her to do this? You think she's just a bad person? No no no.

The parents style may be acceptable in public. But what does it do to the kid's brain? Don't you think that should matter? Cause I do. She is clearly guilty. However. SO ARE the parents. Nobody is innocent in this case.

The parents made her feel unwanted. The parents did that. If she didn't do what she did everyone in their circle would think everything was just fine.

Meanwhile, in the dark of solitude, unknown to the world, this girl wastes away. All they had to do was treat her like she mattered to them in a way SHE could interpret. Instead, those parents did what mine a and millions of others did. None of them are innocent even if the kids don't fall apart or do something illegal in a way that proves the damage the parents caused.

@F!@#Guilt That's not the point though. Yes, the parenting methods of these parents leaves a lot to be desired. But considering that even after this girl betrayed their expectations with years of lies, they were able to look past it and help her put her life together instead of outright disinheriting her on the spot, proves that she was much more than a project to them.

The "project" had failed the moment they figured out she was a high school dropout drug dealer lying to them about being in college for years.  Her parents had no reason to give her a place to live and an opportunity to get back on track with her life. They wouldn't have done that if they didn't genuinely care about her more than about their reputation. That's what I was replying to.

@RoboFist's Revenge But they werent bad parents :/

@RoboFist's Revenge But they werent bad parents :/

Just a reminder, you can acknowledge that they were bad parents while also acknowledging that they didn't deserve to be fucking murdered.

@Francisco Rivas Parents should NEVER under any circumstances threaten or actually disown their children though!

@Artie Can you not see that her parents were the catalyst for her lying...if they'd have been unconditionally supportive and loving, she wouldn't have felt the need to lie.

@Midir Jesus Christ I genuinely hope you're not a parent.

@Midir Jesus Christ I genuinely hope you're not a parent.

@Midir She very likely wouldn't have lied in the first place if she'd had supportive parents who would have accepted her unconditionally - this is literally the job of a parent.  You don't get to decide what type of child you get.  There's a HUGE difference between wanting your child to excel and expecting them to excel, then cutting them off if they don't.  I'm astounded at the lack of emotional intelligence in these comments.

@Akh Las Parental love is supposed to be unconditional.  Love is action...they weren't loving to her at all by the sounds of things.  In fact, they actively showed her that they didn't love her by threatening to disown her if she wasn't the child they wanted her to be.  This doesn't excuse her actions, but I totally understand why she might have had a boiling rage towards them.  Its the greatest wound, being rejected by your parents.

@Francisco Rivas I know what it feels like to be a project (I was a religious project and am now estranged). Whatever your parents intentions are is irrelevant. What matters is what the kids observe. If you treat them like you don't like them, that's what the kids will think. Do you love them? Don't just say it. ACT like it. Being friendly, approachable, and acting like you are happy they exist means FAR more to a kid. They have to know you are on their side. If they don't see your actions, your words mean nothing. The fact this girl put out a hit on her parents says everything. But it's not just her fault things got to this point. The parents were clearly not good leaders. Good leaders foster loyalty. Parents that treat their kids like property inevitably see a slaves revolt against them. Parents should be a kids number one source of guidance and a kid that trusts their parents will seek out the guidance. But the kid must trust the parents before they will seek out the guidance. Kids who are treated like property act out. Why? Because they feel alone in the world. They will seek safety first. Apparently she felt safer with the boyfriend than her parents. If she felt like she actually mattered to her parents (they treated her like she didn't matter to them unless she performed well, like a pet or circus animal), perhaps she never would have taken this course of action.

@F!@#Guilt I completely disagree. The moment she dropped out of high school and started dating and living with a drug dealer while lying about going to college, there was absolutely no pedestal where they could have put her even if she got her shit together eventually. They gave her the option of fixing her life instead of outright disowning her right then and there, only because they loved her. They were very strict parents but they obviously were thinking about their children's future. They might have been misguided and wrong in their methods but you don't get to say that they didn't love her.

That wasnt bad parenting? Their daughter was picking a bad and toxic life. They didnt want to see her be destroyed. They made a good judgment obviously as it the man being in her life caused their deaths. They were good parents. Ive seen and heard bad parents. If you think these are bad parents I dont know how to function throughout your life dude

@Akh Las A “sad tradition” that puts them at the top of the world in terms of success. Do you even hear yourself? You people are unbelievable. It turns out when you have a culture of overachieving you tend to overachieve. Last time I checked, that’s a good thing.

@Midir the only part I agree with is that the parents shouldn't have let her stay home. 18 means parental obligations end. The tired "parents no be friends" is not a valid excuse for bad parenting. Parents should be able to be mentors, guides, without being push overs. It's called acting like an adult. I believe parents can be friendLY. I believe parents should act like leaders. The principles of good leadership should apply to parenting. The excuse "parent no be friends" is a piss poor excuse. Again, there are no good people in this story.

@F!@#Guilt It's not a parent's job to be friends with their kids. You don't have to agree with their parenting style but being hard on your kid and expecting them to succeed isn't abuse. The fact that they even gave her another chance after she lied about her diplomas for years shows her parents were more than fair to her. Finding out your daughter is secretly a high school drop out and was living with a drug dealer for several years is enough to kick her out on the spot. She was a grown woman and was told to straighten up or get out.  She is not legally required to stay with her parents past 18. She was 24. If she didn't like what her parents were telling her to do then she should have left. The parents aren't 1% at fault for what happened.

Her actions made her a failure. Graduating high school is not a difficult task for even the dumbest kids. All you need is literally an ounce of effort and she couldn't even handle that. Well, no. It's not that she couldn't handle it, she chose not to. I fully believe she was capable of far more academically but she just wanted the easy way out and didn't want to study. She was a screw up for a long time and the murder plot just proves how much of a terrible kid she was all along.

@Midir there's a difference between wanting your kids to excel and treating them like property or a trophy. What the girl did was illegal and immoral. However. The parents have their sins as well. If you've never experienced top down authoritarian parenting, well, let's just say regular beatings, screaming due to mistakes, anger anger anger all the time, its never ever ever good enough, etc. Your kids feels unloved and easily disposable. They have ZERO respect for the parents. And why should they? The parents hate them and will never accept them or their efforts (from the kids point of view). Eventually the kids does whatever they feel they can get away with. Parents have been kid-o-cided many times in the world because of this. All the parents had to do was act like the kids meant something to them. But the kid sees it as "my life is a permanent failure". Kids kill themselves over this too. The story in this video has no good guys.

How is this bad parenting? They expected her to excel. Being a tough parent is not being a bad parent. A bad parent wouldn't care and let the kid do whatever they wanted. "You're dating a drug dealer and lied about dropping out? That's okay sweetie! You can live with us until your 50!"

@LisaKirova parents aren't kin if you are less valuable to them than your performance. I'm like you. We are many, the exiled. Remember that you matter, even if only to yourself. Be well.

@Akh Las So true. All my closest friends & bf are 2nd gen like me bc we bonded over how unreasonable our tiger parents were LOL (I came from a Russian household)

@F!@#Guilt Right!! My parents treated me this way too. I kept trying to make peace with them and explain how shitty it was to keep pressuring me & comparing me to others even as a young adult!!! They refused to understand me so I recently cut off contact, it’s a huge weight off my shoulders.

@HiddenGodful I believe the defendant disagrees with your take.

@HiddenGodful I believe the defendant disagrees with your take.

Its weird because she has a brother who didnt become a murderer. Not only she tried to have assurance money but she plan the whole murder from a to z with her boyfriend by message. How horrific is it? You should read some article about this case because they were not the best parent but they werent that bad.. They tried to have succes for their children by not letting their child date drug dealer and having degree. Also her mother said  "dont kill my daugher" to the guys trying to murder them.

@Yankee Carolyn nope they didn't love her. She was a project to them. No better than a trophy to show off to their friends.


She didn't move back to her parent's house because she put "family first". She didn't want to go to school and she didn't want to work. Her boyfriend was absolute trash. This channel only goes into the psyche of criminals, so they don't enclose all of the details of the case, but basically she didn't want to JUST kill her parents to get rid of them. Her boyfriend (Daniel) and her basically plotted to kill them for money. And after their deaths, she wanted to collect their insurance money so she would never have to work again. I do feel bad that her parents were psychologically abusive. I'm asian and I totally understand. It IS abuse, like the detective said,  and on top of that, she had a shitty boyfriend who was willing to help her plot a MURDER on her parents. Yeah, cuz that's normal. But at the end of the day, she is an adult now and can make her own decisions. That means getting a job, moving out of the house, and cutting ties with her parents. Some ppl on here be like, "YOU CANT JUST CUT OUT FAMILY" like no, this bitch legit plotted to MURDER her parents, you really think that morals matter to her? The only time I've ever sympathized for a murderer or murder-for-hire plot was Gypsy Rose, because her mom deserved it.

If she was under 18 I would understand because it’s hard for her to leave but she is 24, there is no sympathy because she easily could’ve left and actually got her life together

@Gregory Reese This - I don't condone her actions in the least, but I'm surprised at the number of comments on this video defending the parents. They seemed unreasonably demanding/controlling and (from the outside anyway) treated their flesh and blood more like a trophy/extension of them than a unique person worthy of understanding and love. When it comes to people, excessive pressure often doesn't make diamonds out of coal, it just leaves you with a pile of coal dust. It's weird that there's this polarized mindset when it comes to parenting in most people's mind, if you're not super strict, that obviously means you let your kid run wild and do whatever they want. No, there's a happy middle ground where you love and support your child, provide them the skills to be independent while not constantly pressuring them to live up to excessive standards, or have a very specific career - that's just a recipe for rebellion/disaster.

@Shadow Of The Lone Wolf Being completely cut off and disowned by your family is not "just leaving". Maybe you dont understand, but when an asian family does this, its like the JDS church, you effectively no longer exist to the family, in many cases they legally disown you. That is isolating and to a young woman absolutely terrifying. After 24 years of back and forth abuse it may have seemed like they were threatening her.

@C C" She didn't want adult responsibilities. . . " <br>Never having been treated remotely like an adult, or even as an individual who existed outside the context of "familial obligation," didn't exactly prepare her. Of course, duh, they didn't "deserve to die,"  but they certainly fucked that woman/little girl up.

@C C" She didn't want adult responsibilities. . . "
Never having been treated remotely like an adult, or even as an individual who existed outside the context of "familial obligation," didn't exactly prepare her. Of course, duh, they didn't "deserve to die,"  but they certainly fucked that woman/little girl up.

@Peruvian PuffPepper They weren't threatening to take her life though, she could have just left, they gave her that option.

@Sachdu being an adult but mentally 15 is a no go atp,  everyone should start from somewhere. Life is not easy to anybody of us, if she just chose to find a job and rebuild the relationship with her parents throughout the years ,none of it could have happened ,she was greedy and just wanted their money so she could live a life with her bf by doing nothing,  her actions are unjustifiable

She had a mindset of a 15 yr old. Her parents excessive controlling meant that she didn't have the skills or courage to survive on her own.

Your absolutely right
She was already living with her boyfriend for 2 years and people be acting like she couldn't just cut ties with her family.
She was given a choice as an adult to be independent and live on her own without family help as most normal adults experience or to become a child again and live with her parents but be controlled as a child is but nope she chose to be a greedy murderer

@Leera Absolutely.  She handled it in the worst way imaginable.  She didn't want adult responsibilities, took the easy way out to live with her parents, but thinks that she can somehow continue living her merry life with her boyfriend after her parents were out of the picture.  There was no way that would've ever ended well.

@Peruvian PuffPepper Look bruh, she can feel angry but murder is no way to solve it. If anything, she should just go out from the house and cut ties with her parents and never speak to them out of resentment. I know how horrible an empty nest syndrome is. Only time can heal such a thing. Moreover, her parent is quite generous. Yes, they are stupid strict but at the same time they pour so many thing to her. You don't bite the hand that feed you since you basically just shoot an opportunity that cut your livelihood. <br>It's okay to be a bit sly to your parent, but at least be smart about it lol.

@Peruvian PuffPepper Look bruh, she can feel angry but murder is no way to solve it. If anything, she should just go out from the house and cut ties with her parents and never speak to them out of resentment. I know how horrible an empty nest syndrome is. Only time can heal such a thing. Moreover, her parent is quite generous. Yes, they are stupid strict but at the same time they pour so many thing to her. You don't bite the hand that feed you since you basically just shoot an opportunity that cut your livelihood.
It's okay to be a bit sly to your parent, but at least be smart about it lol.

@Tomas Ponizil I feel like there are A LOT of levels to this. I don't think it's that black and white at all. The typical thing to do in this case is to blame the parents, because when we look at like 90% of true crime cases, the murderers have terrible parents. But ehh...I don't really believe Jen's parents were THAT bad. I think tiger parenting is abusive in general, but tiger parenting IS the norm to most 1st generation Asians. You usually don't hear every Asian going off and killing their parents. No, most of them move on, either cut ties with their family or form a better bond with them as adults.

I think a lot of people gloss over Daniel Wong in this case, her boyfriend. Numerous sources who know the family and Jen personally, including her brother Felix, stated that there was nothing THAT unusual about how the parents were to Jen. Her own brother can attest to her father having "tough love" and said "but my mother is more gentle..." and her mom was the one who consoled her when she lost her figure skating competitions. Her mom is the one who said "SPARE MY DAUGHTER" in the 911 calls. I have a very hard time thinking her parents abused her to the point of making her a murderer....

You also have to remember that Jen was not some lower-middle class girl. Her parents were wealthy and they had luxury cars and a nice house. If anything, Jen was spoiled. Her parents never had any physical control over her. As a child, maybe, not as a 24 year old woman. She even lived with Daniel and his parents for a while. She was obviously very influenced by her wannabe THUGLIFE boyfriend because he was a bad boy and that was attractive to her. And I wouldn't say her cutting herself (allegedly, as there are no scars or proof to show) directly means it's because of her parents. Not to dismiss her traumas, but when I was a teenager, self-harm was quite common. A lot of us were "suicidal" because when you're a teenager and you're not treated right, you feel like it is a sense of control.

My point is, I think people need to look more at her boyfriend's influence, because after meeting him is when she started to act delinquent. But don't take my word for it. Her brother Felix Pan has spoken out about the whole thing on many different occasions. If anyone's words have any merit, it should be the other person who grew up in the house with her and her parents.

The only way I can personally sort of see it is this.

She was angry her parents took away the first 18+ years of her life, and were threatening more. She want and got revenge by taking away the rest of theirs.


It’s actually crazy that the detectives notice all these psychological responses in real time

They have done it so many times, it's like reading. After a while, you don't have to sound out the individual letters to read the words. You just know the words.

They also notice things after, that’s why it is being recorded

Is their job. They are trained for that.

Is their job. They are trained for that.

It must be easier. Actually, the camera kinda hides them.

It must be easier. Actually, the camera kinda hides them.

She actually thought that the detective was on her side? So naive. She should have gotten an attorney right away

@Michelle M  I can see some reactions at the end be the same as someone innocent but the majority of the interrogation in the beginning I would say no.

@Rage against The mainstream You are correct unfortunately.

@Rage against The mainstream You are correct unfortunately.

@Michelle M If you think innocent people react the same way, you clearly have not been watching.

Yea i need jcs to point them out for me lol

Yea i need jcs to point them out for me lol

Could the detectives use this type of method to persuade someone who is innocent to plead guilty!!!

@Hekima Asilia  no. I don’t have relationships with men

@Hekima Asilia  no. I don’t have relationships with men

@Valerie Rose Good thinking but I hope you’re not thinking it will help you in your relationships with men! Lol

I think interrogators have to complete certain courses in criminal psychology, criminal profiling and other psychological education during their police training.

They do not. They don't need to, because those responses are less important than the discrepancies in the story and it's way easier to notice all of this on the footage, with the benefit of hindsight.

@SuperTramp with a narrator telling you what to see and look for sure. You wouldnt have noticed any of this without a professional teling you

@Valerie Rose i always have the feeling that its a gift and a curse thing. just imagine youre so good that you can see through every persons "facade" (i dont know how to call it). i think sometimes its nice to not know and instead just see the superficial.

That and also the interview are recorded

That and also the interview are recorded

It's pretty easy to detect, it's harder to work around it. I'd love to learn the skill

Because they are good detectives. Do u think all the detectives are like those? Some dont even care.

@I'm not sorry for being anti romantic He was probably abused at home, and learned to read body language as a vital self-defense technique.

They do this daily, also they don't show you the bad takes :)

He didn't notice a good chunk of it like JCS is describing it, or atleast wouldn't be able to articulate it in his manner, what he did sense you can easily see and describe in layman's terms, the fake crying, the monotone aliby etc

@Big Iron well it is crazy, but they'd of course be qualified. doesn't make it any less impressive lol

They are behavioral analysis not detectives when interrogating someone it’s very different.

They are professionals, they don't get any normal joe to do these.

No not really, it’s common sense which unfortunately doesn’t seem very common anymore.

There's other detectives watching the camera's, dummy.

There's other detectives watching the camera's, dummy.

Just don’t talk lawyer up lol pretty simple

Just don’t talk lawyer up lol pretty simple

@Michelle M At this point she should be so overwrought from the event that it shouldn't be on an average person's mind that they might be accused. She's thinking too hard about things that a person who lived this wouldn't.

meh they've obviously trained for it, not to mention its their job they probably recognize the patterns pretty easily with that amount of practice.

Studying Psychology a lot can give you abilities to see bullshit from a mile away with just couple of words, yeah, even on internet we can apply that, anywhere qe can apply it, very useful tool tbh.

They should really earn a degree in psychology, I’m not saying she is not guilty but I can see someone innocent react the same way.  <br>Afraid of being falsely accused, feeling pressured to just say you did it so you can rest…it’s mentally exhausting

They should really earn a degree in psychology, I’m not saying she is not guilty but I can see someone innocent react the same way.
Afraid of being falsely accused, feeling pressured to just say you did it so you can rest…it’s mentally exhausting

@moodymawy That's still pretty crazy though haha

@moodymawy That's still pretty crazy though haha

I never even thought of that because I got so used to JCS pausing and dissecting it

@SuperTramp lmaooo the fake crying was too funny yo

@SuperTramp lmaooo the fake crying was too funny yo

Practise and learn from case studies, like alot of them. Then through repetition, it is basically second nature. Experience also helps

It’s not that hard to see she’s lying about absolutely everything. In fact,it’s really obvious.

They will also study the tapes multiple times and study each detail

The detective was probably that one quiet kid in school thats why he understood body language accurately

The body says what the mouth doesn’t. Most ppl cant read body language too too well

It is crazy.  It makes me want to be one so I can more easily tell when someone is lying

the detective said that hes done this a 1000 times

the detective said that hes done this a 1000 times


this is one of the few cases where i don’t know how to feel. on one hand, she was abused and saw no way out. on the other hand, murder shouldn’t have been her first thought. her parent’s actually <b>*gave*</b> her the chance to move out if she wanted to. she wasn’t trapped, she could’ve easily left. i was emotionally abused my entire life and i never thought about murder. to me it really sounds like she just wanted to live with her bum boyfriend and getting rid of her parents was easier than dealing with their disapproval.

this is one of the few cases where i don’t know how to feel. on one hand, she was abused and saw no way out. on the other hand, murder shouldn’t have been her first thought. her parent’s actually **gave** her the chance to move out if she wanted to. she wasn’t trapped, she could’ve easily left. i was emotionally abused my entire life and i never thought about murder. to me it really sounds like she just wanted to live with her bum boyfriend and getting rid of her parents was easier than dealing with their disapproval.

They gave her the option of disowning her, which is quite extreme and hints at the behavior of the parents over the years. Disowning is not just leaving, it is cutting every tie with your family forever. And in the asian community, they MEAN IT.

@You Tried it ahh that makes sense.  It's always about the coin

i want to empathise with her but she did have a way out. They gave her the option to cut ties and be with her boyfriend, but she didn't want to have to work, she wanted the insurance or inheritance.


The detective at the end is absolutely so shocking to me. His lines could be coming straight out of a movie, beautifully scripted. Give that man an oscar! I hope he's doing well, wherever he is in the world nowadays. <3

This reply section could have been some reddit guy sayin R/wOoOoOsH but there was instead a wholesome ending

@DazzlingPotatoes all good , definitely check that movie out tho!! Super funny

@Jake Bevins omg you were joking 😭 sorry but I've never heard of that movie before. Otherwise I wouldn't have made a fool of myself like that .. lol

@Jake Bevins I'm going to choose to believe you.

If so that's pretty cool!

He's actually my Uncle , his last name is Ventura . First name Ace , and he was a hell of man in his field .


Literally all she had to do was refuse to ever speak to police and immediately ask for a lawyer and she'd have walked, literally spent hours of her own free time willingly telling on herself lmao

Exactly. People need to understand their rights, guilty or not

Just like Chris Watts. They are free to go the whole time and never even lawyer up. It's mind boggling.

@prob dp if she gets a lawyer, she doesn’t fuck up her story


Honestly, the way in which detectives conduct their dialogue is so meticulous and deceptive, it fascinates me how they can do this on an every day basis

It's really highly trained profession, most of these detectives have at least some background in psychology


"So he leaves Jennifer alone for three minutes to play with her hair before he comes back and charges her with first degree murder."<br>Now that is a solid punchline.

"So he leaves Jennifer alone for three minutes to play with her hair before he comes back and charges her with first degree murder."
Now that is a solid punchline.

Damnit, I wish I didn't look at the comments right now @ just over two mins in.

If you’re Guilty or Innocent- witness or suspect -  The only thing to EVER say to an investigator is - I’d like to have a LAWYER here before I answer ANY questions!

I nearly spat out my coffee at this. So unexpexted! :D


What boggles my mind is that Jennifer was already doing what she wanted, she could have just bounced and continued to do her own thing. She did not have to take murderous measures.

@Dev Dixit is right, she wanted their money and to be fully independent from their parents.

Yes, but she wouldn't get any insurance money or any inheritance from her parents. Her parents seem to have done well for themselves (drove a Mercedes and Lexus), she wanted that wealth.

I am sure she and her drug dealer boyfriend were conspiring to steal her parents fortune. Spend it all on drugs probably.

Afterall, if all she wanted to do was get away and be with her boyfriend, she was allowed to do that. She would just lose access to her parents money. No, what she and her boyfriend really wanted, was cash.


I’ve seen every JCS video probably 20x and this is the best true crime content on the planet. Netflix doesn’t do it right and other channels like this just do their best to copy. This is the PINNACLE of true crime. Love it so much. I watch these when I’m depressed and realize how well I have it. Favorite channel on the platform.

@Ada Agreste MattOrchard is your best option at this point lol really wish there were more videos

@Ada Agreste Check out Matt Orchard he comes really close and then there is RedTreeCrime but it lacks the break down strategy of the JCS format

Do you know any channel that makes a good job at analyzing crime, similar to JSC?


"this is universally recognized as getting startled" made me laugh so much harder than i should've


I've been binging these interrogation videos, and if there is anything I've learned it is this: lying to cops is really really hard.

You didn’t learn that you should never talk to cops?

@The Guide & The Judge and with a free conscience..with a specific intention to bring the truth into existence.. 🍎 and 🍊..


This is better than literally all of the docu-series on Netflix, and it's all free. Fantastic content.

this is not free. youtube paid the creator for this

this is not free. youtube paid the creator for this

@Blackfeet it’s free in terms of monetary requirement. You exchange your time and attention directed at advertising for the content. But unless you pay for premium like i do the videos are still free. <br>Everything that happens in life has some abstract form of an exchange even if its still free

@Blackfeet it’s free in terms of monetary requirement. You exchange your time and attention directed at advertising for the content. But unless you pay for premium like i do the videos are still free.
Everything that happens in life has some abstract form of an exchange even if its still free

This is clear - do not commit a crime in a country where the predominant language is not your native language - and if you are arrested for a crime you didn’t commit where this is the case - god help you.

Now people will say - she grew up in Canada so how can English not be her native language - like most children of immigrants - they do not start speaking English regularly until they are forced to in school - those formative years are all in the parent’s native language - I’m guessing this girl thinks in Vietnamese - and for those who say - you don’t think in a language - we all think in a language.

It's not free. You pay for it by having your information sold to marketing companies. You also pay for it with the loss of time in your life spent staring at your phone hypnotized by the algorithm.

@Enomwoyi Kunde he could literally make bank if he decided to put a pay wall behind his videos

Not for much longer. Only 4 videos left.

Not for much longer. Only 4 videos left.

literally better then 99% of trash hollywood movies made lately

True, no emotional and suspense background music and unescesaary landscape/cityscape shots.

And it all going to get taken down by YouTube soon

And it all going to get taken down by YouTube soon

@Free Rights A & E Crime<br>Or investigation criminal

@Free Rights A & E Crime
Or investigation criminal

Until youtube removes it, like all its videos of last year

Until youtube removes it, like all its videos of last year

Yeah jcs your definitely on a production type level.

Yeah jcs your definitely on a production type level.

Still getting likes on this comment till this day😂.

Still getting likes on this comment till this day😂.

Far from free, JCS pays in blood, sweat, and tears.

Far from free, JCS pays in blood, sweat, and tears.

I'm still waiting for the next season of Mind Hunter to come out.. but this is pretty darn good !

Agreed. Netflix Docs are the equivalent to 90s shock jock radio to me. Lol.

It helps when the man who is making this content actually has a degree in criminal psychology and knows what he's talking about.

Not fee anymore with the State of YT and how many ads you need to sit through. <br>Gotta pay for YT premium these days.

Not fee anymore with the State of YT and how many ads you need to sit through.
Gotta pay for YT premium these days.

I agree about the content…but man the commercials are getting outrageous.

Chewy, chewy, chewy.... it’s not free. You pay for internet access, don’t you?

It costs your soul. They just stopped making content

It costs your soul. They just stopped making content

How do we get Netflix in contact with him to make a show?

How do we get Netflix in contact with him to make a show?

I can wait till JCS makes some more content bc these other knockoff channels aren’t cutting it

I do love JCS but that might be a tad overstated. Netflix actually has a fairly decent library of docs. (I’d recommend starting with content not actually produced by Netflix. ;) )

I would say it's better than  most except Making A Murderer. that was one of the best documentaries I've seen to datd

Indeed! Absolutely amazing stuff at full on movie length!

Indeed! Absolutely amazing stuff at full on movie length!

@Shuichi Akai yea always the amarican ones

@Shuichi Akai yea always the amarican ones

Netflix crime docus are full of unnecessary drone shots and overly dramatic editing

same, this channel is a f*cking blessing.

same, this channel is a f*cking blessing.

Not all of them. Making a Murderer is fantastic, Tiger King as well

@Dasdough The Internet and electricity is not free but the content is and could easily be obtained at a public library.

Netflix gonna sue this channel for robbing them of this documentary. Lol

@Patrick Star you will when you get older

@Patrick Star you will when you get older

Netflix shit is way too dramatic and drags.

Netflix shit is way too dramatic and drags.

Everything on Netflix is biased to make you believe one way or another about a crime, like "Here's a totally innocent man who was falsely accused because of this piece of evidence taken out of context with all the other evidence."

This is better because it's just, "Here's the investigation and why the detectives came to the conclusion that they did."

No excess dramatisation, no bullshit. Straight content.

No excess dramatisation, no bullshit. Straight content.

It's not free. You're paying for Internet and electricity

It's not free. You're paying for Internet and electricity

Actually The Devil Next Door and Night Stalker are great imo

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One of the few channels that actually deserve ad breaks

One of the few channels that actually deserve ad breaks

I don't think nothing really beats the Gabriel Fernandez case documentary on Netflix. But I agree, this is fantastic content

They would call you a freeloader. I am with you.

They would call you a freeloader. I am with you.

@conch . You sub to patreon to support the creator, im assuming that they probably cant monetize these type of videos or something

100%!  Kept my interest from start to finish.

100%!  Kept my interest from start to finish.

Does anyone know any good channels like this? They're hard to find

Straight to the point, no unnecessary editing, easy to understand and extremely entertaining

I literally cannot watch 90% of the netflix documentries because they are just drawn out shit

@Baron Yam
Damn good Police and Detectives

@Baron Yam
*Damn good Police and Detectives*

Yeah... until you subscribe to Patreon and get no new content.

Couldn’t fucking agree more handsome down the best documentary work I’ve ever seen

Yeah the videos are great. The footage is awesome. The guys voice is not annoying like other videos.

This is amazing content but Tread was pretty damn good.

This is amazing content but Tread was pretty damn good.

@CataclysmicDuck Dude same,  where do you go?

@CataclysmicDuck Dude same,  where do you go?

I put everyone onto this page. They should honestly pay me for advertising

it’s informative, straight to the point and still entertaining