I went to school with this girl. We were in different crowds, but she was quiet and others that knew her said she was nice. Although she did need to be held accountable for what she did, I can sympathize with the fact that her parents were abusive. I was also abused and was very tempted to do similar things with my parents. By the grace of God that never happened, but I understand her resentment all too well. I'm not putting all of the blame on her parents, but one can't deny they were at fault in some way.

@Chadwick Baker As an Asian myself I can’t believe people are even remotely thinking it’s the parent’s faults. Was the parenting style messed up? Definitely , no one where near warrants their deaths smfh

@Yellowblanka thank you for being the only one with a brain here, I've thought about these very same things. I can't stop wondering, where were her friends? Why didn't they offer her a place to stay and formulate a plan with her? They must have known what was going on. I knew them too, I wish I had still had contact with them. I have so many questions. If we had been friends, I would have been telling her Daniel Wong was bad for her. She deserved better, I don't know what she saw in him. I get that she was vulnerable but it seems he was the only one willing to help her smh. I would have tried to make sure she got out of that toxic situation if we had become friends.

@IzzyNChrist You notice how most of the people posting that stuff are posting from burner/content-less accounts. I don't condone this girl's actions, but I understand why she must have felt helpless and feel some sympathy for her. I can't as an outsider judge just how bad it really was for her, but she certainly seemed to show the signs of emotional/psychological abuse. Also, by normalizing the parent's behavior/stigmatizing mental health issues etc. they're not just lacking empathy, they're opening the door for more events like this to happen. So many tragedies could have been prevented if the person had just gotten some counseling or had a little empathy or an understanding ear. Again, not defending the abhorrent action of murder, but by understanding WHY some people think it's the only way out, maybe we can intercede more often and prevent it from happening as often.

@IzzyNChrist I can't help but think if maybe this girl could have found some sympathy or support from her friends or another outside source (that wasn't her scumbag drug-dealer boyfriend), maybe she might not have felt like she had to kill her parents. It's also why de-stigmatizing mental health is so important.

You little kids got no clue what your Asians parent do for you. Grow up. I been there, done it all. Drugs, gang, jail, prison. Everything my parents say is always right. No matter how much I wanted friends, wanted this wanted that. It always ended up bad for me. Now I'm alone after years in prison and old. I realized everything my parents and how strict they are with me was right. I could had live a decent life.

@B. Gunnion easy for someone who has never been abused to say. I just love all the arrogance people display in this comment section, as if they know what it's like to live in such circumstances smh if anyone here has been able to leave an abusive situation with ease GOOD FOR YOU! it doesn't always work that way for everyone, learn to have some compassion

Don't use abused as an excuse for such actions. I was abused in worse ways. Ways that when finally discussed with multiple psychiatrists have literally shocked them and made them grimace imagining the things i've had to go through and live with. There is nothing quite like having a narcissistic mother. It may not leave physical scars but the scars it leaves for life on the soul are horrifying. Physical and psychological abuse at the hands of my parents and sexual abuse at the hands of others. My life was a train wreck and i NEVER wanted to harm my parents. Instead i wanted to get away, which i did the first chance i got. I moved 100 miles away and severed contact before trying to kill myself which then got me into mental health care help. That began the road to recovery. I may have resented my parents but i never wished them harm (Ironically i just wanted them to love me.), nor did i ever use my history as an excuse to treat people like dirt. Instead i chose to become a better person, be nothing like any of them and swore to treat people how i would wish to be treated.

Giving people an "out" by excusing away their actions by using their history is disgusting and makes light of the struggles people go through with mental health. You don't just murder or hurt people because of your history. A person CHOOSES to do that because they are not a nice person. They could instead CHOOSE to be a better person. Stop using mental health, abuse and history as an excuse for such crimes. Or you're basically saying everyone with that history has a right to go on a murderous rampage.
We all make choices to be who we choose to be. Take responsibility for our actions instead of using pathetic excuses.

Don't use abused as an excuse for such actions. I was abused in worse ways. Ways that when finally discussed with multiple psychiatrists have literally shocked them and made them grimace imagining the things i've had to go through and live with. There is nothing quite like having a narcissistic mother. It may not leave physical scars but the scars it leaves for life on the soul are horrifying. Physical and psychological abuse at the hands of my parents and sexual abuse at the hands of others. My life was a train wreck and i _NEVER_ wanted to harm my parents. Instead i wanted to get away, which i did the first chance i got. I moved 100 miles away and severed contact before trying to kill myself which then got me into mental health care help. That began the road to recovery. I may have resented my parents but i never wished them harm (Ironically i just wanted them to love me.), nor did i ever use my history as an excuse to treat people like dirt. Instead i chose to become a better person, be nothing like any of them and swore to treat people how i would wish to be treated.

Giving people an "out" by excusing away their actions by using their history is disgusting and makes light of the struggles people go through with mental health. You don't just murder or hurt people because of your history. A person CHOOSES to do that because they are not a nice person. They could instead CHOOSE to be a better person. Stop using mental health, abuse and history as an excuse for such crimes. Or you're basically saying everyone with that history has a right to go on a murderous rampage.
We all make choices to be who we choose to be. Take responsibility for our actions instead of using pathetic excuses.

The same way that the butterfly is at fault for causing a hurricane.

@Tony Kim Yeah, I think the murders are indefensible but it's hard not to have sympathy for her. What she did was horrible but I don't think she deserves 25 years - well over a quarter of her life, taken away for it. I'm not saying she should just be set free, but I feel like some sort of rehabilitative justice would do some good here instead of just locking her up.

She snapped, she was angry, my children scream night and day and get on my every last nerve sometimes, you don’t see me taking out my anger on them. This girl was lucky because her parents could have been worse.

@Toby’s Mommy nah <br>Nice try but nothings ever going to justify killing your own parents. So it looks like you are a  mother, if you were abused growing up are you gonna abuse your child? I mean it’s normal right it’s what you experienced. Give me a break. You’re complaining about us and what we don’t understand, we are sitting here complaining about how you would ever look at this and think it’s ok lmao

@Toby’s Mommy nah
Nice try but nothings ever going to justify killing your own parents. So it looks like you are a  mother, if you were abused growing up are you gonna abuse your child? I mean it’s normal right it’s what you experienced. Give me a break. You’re complaining about us and what we don’t understand, we are sitting here complaining about how you would ever look at this and think it’s ok lmao

@Now and forever ♾ So much of y'all out here really not understanding what psychological abuse from an extremely young age does to brain development and how it's really fuckin hard to have normal human emotions when you have never been shown an ounce of unconditional love. Her brain was literally psychologically not done growing. It becomes real hard to give a shit about people who are supposed to love you when all you ever feel from them is criticism, contempt, and control, and morality doesn't mean a damn thing when your life has been anything but fair.

This girl's life was the emotional equivalent of locking an animal in a cage so small it can barely stand and never letting it out, then it escapes and is able to sneak out into the wild and experience freedom, then trying to drag it back into that cage. I'm surprised how many people come out of situations like that who *don't* hate their parents. At the end of the day human beings are still animals, and if they're treated like objects they will go back to their basic survival instincts. Abuse sends you back to your lizard brain and way too many of y'all who grew up not knowing or not caring what that feels like judging this poor girl who had so much going for her. She stopped mattering to her parents the second she got a knee injury. You think her parents would be dead if she'd have gone to the Olympics? Please.
Thank you @IzzyNChrist for actually empathizing with this kid's situation.

@Now and forever ♾ So much of y'all out here really not understanding what psychological abuse from an extremely young age does to brain development and how it's really fuckin hard to have normal human emotions when you have never been shown an ounce of unconditional love. Her brain was literally psychologically not done growing. It becomes real hard to give a shit about people who are *supposed* to love you when all you ever feel from them is criticism, contempt, and control, and morality doesn't mean a damn thing when your life has been anything but fair.

This girl's life was the emotional equivalent of locking an animal in a cage so small it can barely stand and never letting it out, then it escapes and is able to sneak out into the wild and experience freedom, then trying to drag it back into that cage. I'm surprised how many people come out of situations like that who **don't** hate their parents. At the end of the day human beings are still animals, and if they're treated like objects they will go back to their basic survival instincts. Abuse sends you back to your lizard brain and way too many of y'all who grew up not knowing or not caring what that feels like judging this poor girl who had so much going for her. She stopped mattering to her parents the second she got a knee injury. You think her parents would be dead if she'd have gone to the Olympics? Please.
Thank you @IzzyNChrist for actually empathizing with this kid's situation.

Oh definitely, definitely that makes perfect sense, I’m partly at fault for making my children murder me. Yeah no<br>What you will need to understand is parents are not supposed to be your friends, parents are supposed to be tough, lead, be an example, and as far as I can tell, this girl had more chances than even I would’ve gotten, after 18 I was expected to move out, she was still living at home at 24, playing her day away chatting on the phone after her parents found out that she was living with a drug dealer boyfriend and she had lied about her education. I mean her lack of education excuse me. She had all the chances in the world to leave, and for those of you who say that she felt like she needed to stay, no she didn’t, she felt like she needed to get back at them, and her only way to do that, was murder. They gave her the choice to leave, they just didn’t want her to come back, but she decided to take their lives. I don’t care who you are, you do not have the right to decide for someone else when their lives come to an end. And it looks like they made the right decision telling her that they would disown her, nobody wants a screwup like that living with them. She was a mess from the get-go

Oh definitely, definitely that makes perfect sense, I’m partly at fault for making my children murder me. Yeah no
What you will need to understand is parents are not supposed to be your friends, parents are supposed to be tough, lead, be an example, and as far as I can tell, this girl had more chances than even I would’ve gotten, after 18 I was expected to move out, she was still living at home at 24, playing her day away chatting on the phone after her parents found out that she was living with a drug dealer boyfriend and she had lied about her education. I mean her lack of education excuse me. She had all the chances in the world to leave, and for those of you who say that she felt like she needed to stay, no she didn’t, she felt like she needed to get back at them, and her only way to do that, was murder. They gave her the choice to leave, they just didn’t want her to come back, but she decided to take their lives. I don’t care who you are, you do not have the right to decide for someone else when their lives come to an end. And it looks like they made the right decision telling her that they would disown her, nobody wants a screwup like that living with them. She was a mess from the get-go

@Be N S O N From my experience and knowledge, East Asian society is heavily influenced by Confucianism so loyalty and respect to family and elders is heavily emphasized. It's hard to escape that when you've grown up in that kind of environment, even in Western society. I consider myself more American than Asian but since my parents were immigrants, I grew up in that kind of environment and it's become a part of me. So in my opinion, I think it's very tough to just cut all contact. There's probably a better way to articulate these thoughts but hopefully this gave you some insight into your question. <br>Side note, I think Jennifer was put into a hopeless ultimatum. Either leave her safety net, as twisted and oppressive as it was, or be under an authoritarian household where you're expected to study and play catch up all day. Can't really believe or imagine how someone could be pushed to the point of planning their parents murder but with the way I've seen some tiger moms operate, I wouldn't be surprised if their kid snapped and went berserk.

@Be N S O N From my experience and knowledge, East Asian society is heavily influenced by Confucianism so loyalty and respect to family and elders is heavily emphasized. It's hard to escape that when you've grown up in that kind of environment, even in Western society. I consider myself more American than Asian but since my parents were immigrants, I grew up in that kind of environment and it's become a part of me. So in my opinion, I think it's very tough to just cut all contact. There's probably a better way to articulate these thoughts but hopefully this gave you some insight into your question.
Side note, I think Jennifer was put into a hopeless ultimatum. Either leave her safety net, as twisted and oppressive as it was, or be under an authoritarian household where you're expected to study and play catch up all day. Can't really believe or imagine how someone could be pushed to the point of planning their parents murder but with the way I've seen some tiger moms operate, I wouldn't be surprised if their kid snapped and went berserk.

Some people grow stronger from abuse and are able to cut off their toxic family and live their own life the way they wanted<br>Some people grow weak and are unable to escape and thus resent their family and thus chose to do the worst

Some people grow stronger from abuse and are able to cut off their toxic family and live their own life the way they wanted
Some people grow weak and are unable to escape and thus resent their family and thus chose to do the worst

@Lana Rose if the bullied kid fights back to the bully do you blame only the bullied kid? when you push people to the edge it will bounce back, and you don't know what will bounce back to you, let's hope the bullied kid has a bigger heart and forgive the bully, but not everyone has that.

@Lana Rose ah yes , exactly what a privileged person with a free life would say , abuse doesn't exist if you say so

How is it their fault she wanted to kill them? I’m sorry there’s no justification

@Liya Jolly sadly some people who are being abused don't recognize it and accept it as normal. That's not healthy

I 100% agree with what you are saying.  I grew up with a narcissistic mother who had very high expectations.  It was all about making her look good to her family.  My dad sat back and let it happen.  It's hard to break away from this type of abuse when you are conditioned from a very early age to live up to a certain standard.  You keep believing that you can somehow find a way to please them and it never happens.  You feel trapped, even after you become an adult.  I eventually found the strength to break away and stop caring how they felt.  But the kind of abuse they inflicted on her is just as bad as the physical abuse that Gypsy Rose endured.  It doesn't justify what she did by any means. She should have walked away.

@OP I'm sorry if this sounds accusatory, but I promise I'm asking in good faith - why can't Asian people cut abusive family out of their life the way Westerners can?

@Deana Davidson You're clearly not Asian, what gives you the authority to speak about the parenting dynamic in this case? Maybe listen to what Asians are saying and stop speaking over us. I see people with non Asian surnames all over the comments doing this, it's like you think we're all lying or something.

@Chadwick Baker yes they are, they emotionally abused her. Especially her dad. She might have been in her 20's, but you don't seem to understand why psychological abuse does to a child especially over the span of much of their lifetime. Unless you have gone through abuse like this yourself, you can't possibly understand how hard it is to leave. That goes for any abusive relationship. Fear plays a big part in it that most people don't understand

@T McK yes, in fact I really don't like the awful things people are saying in the comments. I could have been this girl. I pray for her when I see her come up in my recommended feeds. I wish there was some way I could tell her I don't judge her, but that she needs therapy for everything she's been through.

Does it feel weird seeing  a classmate of yours get interrogated?

Does it feel weird seeing  a classmate of yours get interrogated?

@Chadwick Baker have you ever been around Asian parents or any strict parents? It’s really hard to “just move out”. I’m not comparing the two but it’s like asking a DV victim why they can’t just move out.

The parents aren't to blame at all. They gave her multiple options. She's in her 20s if she really wanted to get away from them, she could.

exactly! i wish parents made themselves to be the type of people to open up to. like she paid $500 for a fake diploma, that is some form of emotional control from her parents.

@MSAmber Jesus is my strength, that is why I was able to heal as well as I have. I have a ways to go, but that will take time.

@IzzyNChrist Wow, thanks for your answer, be strong over the past! c:

@MSAmber no, but I did get told  that I wasn't good enough to do pretty much anything because I wasn't  smart or talented or rich enough

Thanks for your comment, and I have a question:<br>She has a career that she lost and she couldn't pursue another dream, you had a similar situation?

Thanks for your comment, and I have a question:
She has a career that she lost and she couldn't pursue another dream, you had a similar situation?


A person who was innocent would’ve automatically be crying hysterically and upset if someone accused them of killing their parents instead Jennifer tries to look emotionally distressed. The detectives definitely did a great job with the psychological pressure and reassured her to give the disbelief that they were on her side. However it is sad that her parents put so much unrealistic pressure on her, no way am I justifying her actions but this whole situation is terribly sad on both ends.

Her parents wanted her to be successful but she didn't want to do that so she thought that this would have been the easy way out

You prove a very good point tho. If you were innocent you would be crying freaking out. Her body language, fake emotions and not being able to keep up with the story is always a dead give away. Take amber heard as an example. Body language and never being able to keep the same story.


Damn, really shows how much bad parenting can mess up a person to a point where one becomes a cold-blooded killer, good job...

@Bubbles Yes, but consider this: Everyone breaks after a certain point and has the potential to become a cold blooded killer, for some it takes as little as being annoyed by someone, for most it takes more. Could you tell exactly how you would act if someone tortures or slaughters your whole family and you had the chance to get back at him or her? I'm just saying that without those kind of parents this girl may have had a normal life. I'm not defending her, but without this case of horrible parenting things may have turned out fine.

Im sure the pressure her parents put on her is a factor, but she chose the bf, she lied for 8 years straight, she is very responsible for this

@Bubbles Btw i am definitely not defending her actions

@Bubbles Everyone has a bad side, it just comes to what extent, y'know?

I suspect she was cold-blooded all along. Some people are just born that way.


Had she been left to herself following the initial interview, and if the father did not survive, she would’ve absolutely gotten away with murder whilst the police write her behavior up to being in a state of shock — absolute bewilderment.

@Oliver Quach She's also dumb for talking to the Detectives period and forgetting what She said and forgetting what lies She lied about. She messed this up In every way possible. She's pretty though. At least She has that going for Her

Im not so sure about that.  There’s still the question of why the home invaders off’d the parents and not Jennifer.  Then the strange 911 call, burglars not stealing cars, Jennifer’s got a motive, the brother would’ve talked to police etc.

She was really dumb for walking around and talking all friendly with the intruders without making sure the parents were dead first. She really is a failure in just about every aspect of life, she can’t do nothing right.


I accidentally happened across your channel while doing something else...

What a lucky day for me!
Factual and fascinating, I am hooked!
Great job on this channel. Thank you very much.

Cheers. 🇨🇦


I’ve never once hired an individual to murder somebody, but even though I lack expertise… I am positive that incriminating the murderer(s) is not considered a “thank you” for committing said crime. The rule is to NEVER have a co-conspirator(s). She definitely should’ve be more wise


She believed him when he said the police has satellites with x-rays which can pick up what goes on inside people's houses.    And her parents wanted her to have an academic career?

Im a programmer and saw a white paper on why this is possible with routers and the 802.11 wifi signal. Specifically you can see where a human body is in the router room


So, her story is they brought her downstairs where her parents were tied up next to each other.

I bet that was the point she was allowed to tell them why she was doing what she was doing, and that they were going to be killed. No wonder her father ran out of the house yelling for help instead of staying and checking his daughter's okay.


3 hours, 2 minutes, and 13 seconds into the interview, you’ll notice the detective’s laptop screen go black. This is a common strategy used to prolong the use of the laptop battery, as well as reduce the Police Department’s electricity bill. It is executed perfectly here.

@Snarky Goblin what does it mean? Please tell me

@Snarky Goblin what does it mean? Please tell me

@member548 Archer's so fvcked up I love itttttt lol

@Francesca Gilny so frustrating... Maybe it's his call sign mixed into the comment.

@Michael Tuffin thanks! Yea, I still don’t get it. It seems to me that its a really good joke, so many likes. But I don’t understand

@Francesca Gilny blows me away that no one will tell u..I don't get it either.plz tell me if u ever find out

@Karl Price 9th September as the first option will not have 9 90 89 8th 8 98 will have a great 90 9 on 9 for les for the night length and 8 08 and will the 99

In my personal opinion that was fucking good. That was good. It's hard to make me grin this made me laugh. Thank you for making this day good.

Start ANOTHER channel LIKE this like orchard........I loooooove these channels ......

But the interview was only an hour and a half

But the interview was only an hour and a half

@Logik Bomb David Khari Webber Chappelle is his birth name

@Stephen Filer I don’t get the joke! What is it?

@Stephen Filer I don’t get the joke! What is it?

Hahaha thats so funny 🤣 so dumb but soo dang funny

That's just how laptops work. They go to sleep after a while to save power. It isn't a police thing.

Why the fuck does 10k ppl like this comment... Even my Laptop does that

Almost effortlessly truly the peak of the video tbh really shows how in control he is in this interrogation

@LYNDP2100 #muzickevolution His joke was a winner to me☠💯

@B H Frisky Dingo is THE best show after Firefly.

@B H Frisky Dingo is THE best show after Firefly.

What does this comment mean? Somebody explain it to me pleaaaasssee!

@Eric Heller oh I thought it was just a "k"

@Eric Heller oh I thought it was just a "k"

@Shaun Adams I bet dude is a sicko .. A lot of serial killers watch this kind of content.. My uncle is an FBI AGENT he said you would not believe just how many serial killer's that are on the internet ..he said there is atleast 100 serial killer's that are active in the state's.. It's scary and with dudes comment I was like I bet this guy is one..

Real funny. Woman shot and killed all coordinated by her own daughter. Decorum and respect is lost on you

Amazing catch. The untrained eye would have never caught this brilliant technique!

I dead set tried to find that point in the vid lol

I dead set tried to find that point in the vid lol

@B H yea, its worth it.   Unrealated but if you dig archer, you will love it.

Шелсоме то тне раяту

LOL this comment made me spit out my water....lol

LOL this comment made me spit out my water....lol

The lack of beverages offered or present in the 2nd room contributed to the ambiance that she has no way of getting off topic or wasting time . The detective knew that and thats why he moved to the other room where all the equipments are directly regarded to the case or her. Very smart.

when using wifi and wanting to read a long article, i convert it into a "pdf" via one of the phone's option to do so... now i dont need wifi... read it off line

Right as I read this I looked up and watched this happen. Weird coincidence

Wow ingenious... Just outstanding preservation of electricity, never seen before.

This man is writing an essay about screensaver😭😭

This man is writing an essay about screensaver😭😭

@member548 this literally swayed me. Archer is my shit!

What a deduction! Why are you even here and not working for the police?! 😂😂😂

2 minutes and 42 seconds into the video, you'll notice a young Dave Chappelle under his birth name of David Mylvananamamanamaamnanam.... milli vanilli.
Girl you know it's true.
R.I.P. John Davis

Broo my ass was reading this comment like a question on a test

@Axl Dave 12 seconds ago got damn. What u up to brur? I'm supposed to be at work

@B H I only remember it being on the TV late at night when I was younger, weird show, kind of remember it like a fever dream. But I remember it wasn't the worst thing on, it was kinda funny

7 hours ago, huh? So did you get sent here from reddit this morning and start binging too?

@Eric Heller Is frisky dingo worth it? I've been debating forever to watch it or not

@LOL: WILD RIFT aldebaran gameplay it's from a show called "frisky dingo" if you were looking for it


Imagine if her brother tricked her into doing this knowing she would mess up so he could get everything for himself. That would be a plot twist.


Im always sooo shocked when detectives apply the “this is where you can make it all right, just be strong, search deep within yourself and…and give up all the info you have. Dont you wanna be remembered as “well he ended up doin the right thing?”😂😂😂


I feel sorry for her. She must have had a dreadful childhood, like a hamster on a wheel just expected to turn out achievements.


In an alternate universe, she never injured her knee. She went on to compete at the Olympics and had a successful ice skating carreer. 😓


These videos only show me why you never talk to the cops even if you are innocent. Of course its great they can catch people with these strategies. But I can also see how they can get things wrong and accuse innocent people of wrong doing. some of these strategies are criminal at best. for instance...he starts with telling her to act like she never told the story before, then he himself brings back things she said before to get her to correct herself and mumble fumble around. Right then I would have stopped and got a clue to talk to my lawyer. all said and done it's a good thing she got what she had coming to her. She is obviously crooked as hell.


If her father had passed away, she would of falsified the stories. Though the whole being tied up story would’ve been a focus point to get right. [possibly worried more about the phone and tied up situation]. Hand on chest a way to feel mentally anxious free [fidget spinner]. When showing empathy or tears to quickly fade when asked a question is a reality. Snap out of the imagery. She’s special. ADHD, PTSD, depressive episodes / bipolar. Story telling says a lot to her persona. Honesty is something.. A person who seems to, want help. Going back to tied or not.


What an awesome documentary!<br>I was planning on just watching five minutes, but was intrigued to watch it all. Very interesting

What an awesome documentary!
I was planning on just watching five minutes, but was intrigued to watch it all. Very interesting


This guy is so obviously interrogating her and using an accusatory tone, I would feel so offended.. even if I was lying. She seems like a terrible liar. Should’ve gotten a lawyer. Glad she didn’t though. Naivety does wonders<br>& when females killers describe the yelps of their victims, they always describe it as animal noises :/

This guy is so obviously interrogating her and using an accusatory tone, I would feel so offended.. even if I was lying. She seems like a terrible liar. Should’ve gotten a lawyer. Glad she didn’t though. Naivety does wonders
& when females killers describe the yelps of their victims, they always describe it as animal noises :/


8 minutes into the second interview she says she doesn't want to say wrong thing and that she is nervous if she was not guilty she would have most likely been glad to be back and wouldn't have been worried about saying "the wrong thing"


Hearing the dad's screams in that 911 call is bone chilling.<br>Ugh its terrifying.

Hearing the dad's screams in that 911 call is bone chilling.
Ugh its terrifying.


I am interested in you doing another one of someone innocent and analyze those interviews but with the same tools and analysis


Luckily Jen showed in her planning that she wasn't more than a C average student. While the connection between the hitmen and her boyfriend would have lead investigators to suspect her involvement eventually, it would have taken some time, and not already when she was just a witness, if she had done a better job.

-She should have made the plan with her boyfriend in person, not through text messages, and limited her involvement to a minimum. The less she knew about the plan, the better during an interview.
-She should have left a valuable prize for the hitmen to take in the house and reported it missing after the hit. Something her brother would know was in the house. That way it would look like a break-in/theft.
-She should have had the hitmen injure her in some way. Not to give lasting damage, but enough to make her look like a victim.
-She should have acted like a victim even if there were not witnesses, and the hitmen should have treated her like a victim, but without going so far as to kill her or giving her lasting injuries. That way she didn't have to lie to the police. She could have recounted everything like it happened, making sure to give a very vague description of the "robbers".
-After the witness interviews were over, and the police called her in later when they found the connection between her and the hitmen, she should have lawyered up and not said a word ever again to the police or in court. If she needed to state a reason, it would be because she didn't want to entertain the "ridiculous" idea the police had that she was somehow involved. Why else would they call her in so late after the incident?

-The biggest problem is that perhaps her boyfriend would have started talking (the hitmen wouldn't know she was involved as they only dealt with her boyfriend, so they couldn't incriminate her). If he did, she could be in trouble. She would have her lawyers prepare a foolproof written statement about her not having anything to do with the crime, and still never talk to the police or in court. If she wanted to throw her boyfriend under the bus, she could have gotten someone (like a friend) to suggested a theory for the police (through the media, perhaps) that he probably got rid of her parents to be with her. Just make sure to not let any breadcrumbs lead back to her or her lawyers.

Thoughts on her chances in such a situation?

now stop giving people ideas lol, but yes absolutely lmao

@Metal Gamer in this situation yea but idk I could do it successfully not that I ever would. That's so sick

@Ωuiet Wyatt Yes, not talking to the police will make the police suspicious, but talking to the police is way worse for her!

POV: PARENTS EXCUTED YET YOU SAY NOTHING. Um did you do it darling like tf?

@Radhaaisch Yes, perhaps you are right. This video didn't really go into their relationship, so I don't know too much about it.

I agree, she isn't very bright. It seems like she had co-dependent relationship with her boyfriend where he made all major decisions. She never imagined throwing him under the bus. I feel she is not a calculating or conniving criminal but more of a person who followed or idolized this boyfriend and lied for him for 8 years. She couldn't think of tying the loose ends after the fact, the things you mentioned, because she had him do all the thinking for her. That's what I perceived from this and other videos I watched about her. Well, I could be wrong. You made some good points and I do believe she could have done a lot more. She damaged her own case  by talking here.

@Ωuiet Wyatt What are the contradictions?

100% success although some of your plans contradict; as invidual ideas they cannot fail. Also maybe self inducing a psychotic episode before the break in and eventually assassination would increase opportunity for success


It’s almost obvious how she had a straight answer for everything also when they try to find a reason why she did what she did. Makes me feel like she’s making things up just to make them look bad and herself the victim. There was never a No in her answer.


This is a great interrogation, but the number of times the detective said the word "OK" is just ridiculous.


my heart dropped when i heard he dad screaming. she called out to comfort him but she caused this. she wanted this to happen.


You mention several times that she was free to not provide statement and leave during all 3 sessions, but how would that really help her? Wouldn't it be useless in the end?


The father's disappointment in his daughter's failed murder attempt was what kept him alive.

Fuck 😂 this comment made ME feel like a disappointment 😭😭 I would’ve failed too☠

@InsideWorksOut Yes cause its stolen from the top comment  on this thread dude

Never underestimate the disappointed Asian dad.

@Sans fr tho as a  blasian my parents would survie a headshot out of spite

As a Korean American, I can attest how Asian parents survive out of spite.

stop 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

stop 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@Melanie Valdes i felt bad for laughing 😂

PLEASE. He came back just to say “you failed at that too huh” 😭

😂😂😂 came back to life just to scold her for failing😂

Most underrated comment on this thread!!!!👍🏽😂😅 Sheesh!


My Mother was the most important person in my life and when she passed a part of me was lost And this women is sitting here worrying about herself WHAT HAPPENS TO ME?? Life in jail you horrible person!


Jennifer: "You said you were on my side!"<br>Detective: "Oh, OK, then you are free to go."

Jennifer: "You said you were on my side!"
Detective: "Oh, OK, then you are free to go."


Option A: back to school

Option B: disowned

Option C: Murder

Idk that’s a toughie

Option A: back to school

Option B: disowned

Option C: Murder

Idk that’s a toughie

I dont see how she thinks that A or B is worse than murder? Like how is that even an option

I dont see how she thinks that A or B is worse than murder? Like how is that even an option

@heheheHA yeah, Joe Jackson was father of the year

@heheheHA yeah, Joe Jackson was father of the year

@iamcatlover well it really is stupid. But you blame her as if it's  decision she easily made from a clean slate, even if her parents never gave her a chance to decide for her own life. There's so much more to her story than the murder. She tried to be the child that was worth parenting, but when she got injured she ended up having to be someone she's not just so she could belong to <i>her family.</i> What I'm saying is, her decision making, mentality, and outlook in life was always shaped by how she grew up. That's significant factor for how she was able to push woth option C other than herself.

@iamcatlover well it really is stupid. But you blame her as if it's  decision she easily made from a clean slate, even if her parents never gave her a chance to decide for her own life. There's so much more to her story than the murder. She tried to be the child that was worth parenting, but when she got injured she ended up having to be someone she's not just so she could belong to _her family._ What I'm saying is, her decision making, mentality, and outlook in life was always shaped by how she grew up. That's significant factor for how she was able to push woth option C other than herself.

@Maya I don't know why u think the outcome is the smaller part of the story,
I know the cause is important becoz it's what affecting the girl's life, but we can't do anything about the cause if there are individuals like her parents.
Besides, my point is the girl could have chose a better decision than killing becoz this stupid choice of her now ruin her future.
Once she leave the prison, with that criminal record, finding work will be tougher, so while she miserably trying to feed herself with some scrape she could get by, her father will still continue to live with the money he's capable of earning on his own.
If she had left earlier, life may not be smooth but at least she would have higher chance of finding a job & getting away from her family...

@romiedahomie some people can’t stand the disown part… that’s a problem. I’m from the same culture, and I’m basically got called uneducated by everyone because I don’t respect all my parents’ decisions. I’m thankful for my parents allow me to be insolent little shits, but at least, I get my anger out.

Yeah I can totally see how option C is the most intriguing... not

Yeah I can totally see how option C is the most intriguing... not

@iamcatlover you're just focusing more on the outcome rather than the cause. What she had was building up since she could remember, she just chose the wrong time to be selfish. If her suicide succeeded none of you would be looking at it as her fault, either way the events that led up to suicide or murder is just the same. You're focusing on the smaller part of the story.

@Maya I didn't miss that part, all the more she could have left if she couldn't stand them.
Since she could hire a robbery with money, surely she could have get some to sustain herself once she leave the place & find work? She was not going to attend the pharmacy course anyway & her family doesn't care about her, so why not leave & find work to sustain her own freedom?
To me, killing her parents for freedom from pressure is just an excuse to choose the easy way out.

All she had to do was choose option B and then get a job. Oof

All she had to do was choose option B and then get a job. Oof

@Robert Oliva Vidal Mudering someone isnt a mistake, thats why its murder and not manslaughter.

@Robert Oliva Vidal Mudering someone isnt a mistake, thats why its murder and not manslaughter.

Ummm this was criminal act, she murdered. Look at how kind he is talking to her. How could you even say hate her? Do you know how serious an act murder is? It’s the most serious act.

Ummm this was criminal act, she murdered. Look at how kind he is talking to her. How could you even say hate her? Do you know how serious an act murder is? It’s the most serious act.

@Aerin Trouette exactly, just because his cultural privilege saved him from going through exactly what she did, doesn't mean he can't understand. But he still chose not to anyway, comparing his li- comparing your life problems that seem similar enough just so you can attack someone for giving into her abhorrence? wat da hail

@iamcatlover you entirely missed the part where her parent's have been her demons the moment she was old enough to receive orders. Obviously she doesn't care about them. Can you understand what that's like?

@iamcatlover you entirely missed the part where her parent's have been her demons the moment she was old enough to receive orders. Obviously she doesn't care about them. Can you understand what that's like?

@CODA blaming the person for how he/she turned out to be is fine if it was led by his/her decision, but in this case, she really grew up not having a choice to actually live except for this one time she thought she's had enough. I'm so confused as to how these people are missing that. In cases like this where the child ends up committing suicide, they all show nothing but remorse for her and blame the parents, but just because it was murder this time, they completely ignored the unfortunate events that led up to this crime. It's shallow and just judgmental.

@Kingof Grim you're all free to judge her, but don't act like you know exactly how it was for her because you two are still different and have different parents. If you think that her difference in experience from you makes her evil, go ahead, but you do know you're being self-righteous. Murder is a solid no for you, but you have no clue how her abuse differs from yours or her tolerance of it that made murder a choice for her. And before you tell me I'm saying she's right for murdering, I'm telling you now I just couldn't stand how easily you compared your situation with hers just because you were abused too. It's not all black and white. You would know, that if you've been buried under a pile of resentment and abuse for years, it can easily corrupt your way of thinking, but maybe you just don't have enough hate in you. So yeah, you just don't know what it's like for her is why I'm sitting here laughing at ow brave it is for you to still compare yourself.

@Woo Six Obviously. Plus, you can earn your parents's trust back by apologizing to them.

@Woo Six Obviously. Plus, you can earn your parents's trust back by apologizing to them.

Murder seams worse than being disowned, why wouldn’t you be disowned instead?

Murder seams worse than being disowned, why wouldn’t you be disowned instead?

@RabbitGirl she was 24 though. She was already living with her boyfriend. Should've just divorce her parents. Tough but better than murder. Again she was 24.

@RabbitGirl she was 24 though. She was already living with her boyfriend. Should've just divorce her parents. Tough but better than murder. Again she was 24.

Option A: It's better to be abused than to kill someone.

Option A: It's better to be abused than to kill someone.

@romiedahomie I’m not justifying murder here, but the parents weren’t just “encouraging” her and “wanting her to succeed” they were basically forcing her to succeed, which is why she basically lived a double life. She wanted to please her parents while also living her life

@Mackenzie Walker She had the option to be disowned? Plus she literally lied about her life and still was given options.

@Mackenzie Walker She had the option to be disowned? Plus she literally lied about her life and still was given options.

@Kingof Grim What was wrong with option B? She felt entitled to get support from her parents or something?

@Kingof Grim What was wrong with option B? She felt entitled to get support from her parents or something?

@heheheHA Because people would ask why they disowned their child? Asians value society over their family you know.

Maybe consider that cornering your child all your life long to the point where she faked her diploma had something to do with the whole case. Just brainstorming.

@CODA if her parents were so abusive why would they keep her after she's 18 after they found out that shes been lying to them for years? If anything they wouldve just disowned her and left her on the street after finding that out. All they asked for was for her to leave her drug dealer bf and go back to school or leave. she thought instead of taking this new chance that she'd dig herself in an even deeper hole and murder them. How tf are you gonna blame the parents when for all they knew they had a successful daughter who had straight As? If she just talked to her parents after she got the injury they def wouldve helped her considering they still were willing to help her after they find out they dont even know their own daughter.

@M, Hi! Can you read? Because it seems like you completely ignored the part of my comment where I acknowledged that <br>It actually seems like you didn’t read any of it because I wasn’t defending her

@M, Hi! Can you read? Because it seems like you completely ignored the part of my comment where I acknowledged that
It actually seems like you didn’t read any of it because I wasn’t defending her

@Binomial Nomenclature uh what? Also they gave her an option to leave the house and do whatever she wants, but she was greedy as hell and didn't want her parents cut her allowance that she spend on drugs

@Binomial Nomenclature uh what? Also they gave her an option to leave the house and do whatever she wants, but she was greedy as hell and didn't want her parents cut her allowance that she spend on drugs

@Armin Targaryen  Abuse? If what they did is considered abuse then i can only imagine what kind of privileged life y'all are living.

@Armin Targaryen  Abuse? If what they did is considered abuse then i can only imagine what kind of privileged life y'all are living.

@Terrohn Richardson  Strict parents does not equal to murder.<br>If that is what it leads to then its not the parents fault, the child is just a psychopathic piece of shit.

@Terrohn Richardson  Strict parents does not equal to murder.
If that is what it leads to then its not the parents fault, the child is just a psychopathic piece of shit.

@CODA she had been lying for years, was a drug user and had connections to violent people which she made herself. her parents were "tiger" parents, clearly pushing her too hard to achieve top grades. but she had spun a Web of lies for years to avoid them hearing the truth, because she enjoyed her lifestyle which involved sex, drugs and NOT school. her parents were pushy, but this is solely on her.

Disowned is the right option. She was a criminal but that doesn't absolve her parents for abusing her from her early childhood

Disowned is the right option. She was a criminal but that doesn't absolve her parents for abusing her from her early childhood

@Sílvia Monteiro In the end it probably was about the money and the girl was just downright stupid, but having such high expectations of your kid to a degree where she would fake her own diploma because she's scared to get ''disowned'' probably also made her this way.

The parents also created her to be this way. Had to happen eventually.

@CODA still doesn't give you the right to take lives. Plus she wasn't cornered, she had the option to do whatever she wanted but be disowned

@CODA still doesn't give you the right to take lives. Plus she wasn't cornered, she had the option to do whatever she wanted but be disowned

@CODA Even if they were abusive, they offered to leave her alone, it's literally an option that they have her

@CODA Even if they were abusive, they offered to leave her alone, it's literally an option that they have her

I'm shocked by all the people supporting the death of the parents. They find out their kid has been lying for <b>years</b> and stealing tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to support a drug-fueled lifestyle, cutting ties is exactly what they should have done in that situation. Cutting ties is hardly "abuse", encouraging your child to do well in life isn't "abuse"...what this bitch did to her parents is abuse and then some.

I'm shocked by all the people supporting the death of the parents. They find out their kid has been lying for *years* and stealing tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to support a drug-fueled lifestyle, cutting ties is exactly what they should have done in that situation. Cutting ties is hardly "abuse", encouraging your child to do well in life isn't "abuse"...what this bitch did to her parents is abuse and then some.

@romiedahomie It’s deeper than that. As a culture a lot of Asians put high pressures on their kids to academically succeed. I come from an area where we had a high asian population and they had to take away AP classes because parents would force their kids to take all these classes to the extent that there would be suicides every year. Whilst it’s important to support your child, simultaneously it must be kept in moderation. Kids like that are always being compared and told that they’re less than so yes, it is a double edged sword and what she did was terrible, but from a psychological standpoint she probably felt like she didn’t have a way out and wanted vengeance when that obviously wasn’t the better way.

Honestly, both parties are in the wrong. Jennifer for setting up a fake home invasion, along with the parents abuse. But if I had to pick a side I’d be on the parents. Parents want there children to succeed in life and stay out of trouble.

Her parents deserved that. 24 years old, let her live her life, imagine disowning your child because they don’t meet your expectations. What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, the parents took the former. 🤣

@romiedahomie You've never been disowned by your parents before then to understand these people didn't care about her. The damage that being pushed out of one's family does to someone is of a magnitude that simply cannot be explained. It rocks people down to the very core of who they are, destroying their developmental foundations from when they were a baby onward. I'm just responding because I've been through it before, for reasons that weren't fair, just like in this situation. I hate to say it but I feel like I understand the pain this woman went through. Still, the unfortunate part is that she had people who were willing to actually do this........ thinking they wouldn't somehow get caught either (?) Good lord. What a terrible situation.

@romiedahomie You've never been disowned by your parents before then to understand these people didn't care about her. The damage that being pushed out of one's family does to someone is of a magnitude that simply cannot be explained. It rocks people down to the very core of who they are, destroying their developmental foundations from when they were a baby onward. I'm just responding because I've been through it before, for reasons that *weren't* fair, just like in this situation. I hate to say it but I feel like I understand the pain this woman went through. Still, the unfortunate part is that she had people who were willing to actually do this........ thinking *they* wouldn't somehow get caught either (?) Good lord. What a terrible situation.

@romiedahomie I agree with your comment & don't understand why people would side with the girl, SHE clearly have a choice but she didn't choose it because a part of her greedy for the comfortable life where she can get both financial support from her parents as well as continue dating her boyfriend.
It's true her parents are abusive & she can't stand it, then why not leave? If she chose to leave & let her parents disown her, at least she is standing for her rights & people cannot blame her for leaving, BUT she chose to stay on the excuses 'Family comes first'.
To me, knowing something bad going to happen to her family yet didn't do anything, doesn't seem like 'Family comes first' to her...
And although I can't see her condition clearly, but if she looked fine without looking tired from nightmares & guilt over the things she have done, then perhaps, her excuse of 'Family comes first' was clearly a lie. Most likely her main priority is the financial support.

idk some people always pick option C on tests

idk some people always pick option C on tests

@romiedahomie Not that i am justifying what she did, but you have no idea the immense pressure Asian parents give to their children. Yeah sure, they are gonna go to college all-expense paid, but they don't want passing grades, they want high grades so they could brag it to their friends. Dont get me wrong, what she did is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE, but having constant pressure from your parents to do well in everything, reach their unattainable standards is hard too.

Obviously the logical option, no matter how much I hated my parents, not once have I thought of harming them.  Worst case was wanting to move so far away that they couldn't control me anymore.  This girl is completely deranged to have come up with this whole plot.

Idk why she would try to permantly get rid of her parents when they gave her that option anyways. Like dead or alive not like you would see them anyways smh

Idk why she would try to permantly get rid of her parents when they gave her that option anyways. Like dead or alive not like you would see them anyways smh

Isn't c always the correct answers? That's why you don't make murder option c like here..

Isn't c always the correct answers? That's why you don't make murder option c like here..

@CODA I am inclined to agree with this viewpoint. Her parents were not loving nurtures to her the way it might first appear. She was probably living under ungodly pressure her entire life  which led to this decision. I feel sorry for her. I don't agree that killing her parents was justified, just saying I understand.

@Anwen N. How do you know that? If they didn’t care about their daughter,  then why would they give her an option? Why would they still have her living.

@Anwen N. How do you know that? If they didn’t care about their daughter,  then why would they give her an option? Why would they still have her living.

@RabbitGirl I have to agree with you on that one, you gotta a point.

@RabbitGirl I have to agree with you on that one, you gotta a point.

@Mackenzie Walker but it isn’t what her parents want her to do, it’s more of what they DONT want her to do. The only reason why they created such a strict life for her after they found out she was lying is so she wouldn’t stray so far away. From the information given here, all they wanted her to do was go to school and NOT date a drug dealer. Notice, it’s all for her sake

@me  yes exactly. But she ended up with neither.

@me  yes exactly. But she ended up with neither.

@heheheHA i dont think they were abusive TBH. I think they were just strict. Most people still love their strict parents, but sometimes (like this) things go wrong. I think a  part of this has to do with her mixing in with the wrong crowd.

Maybe she didnt want to go to school but she also wanted her inheritance.

Maybe she didnt want to go to school but she also wanted her inheritance.

@Kingof Grim how is pushing your kid to succeed abusive.

@Kingof Grim how is pushing your kid to succeed abusive.

@Trey Killian I think its also important to note that she was dating a drug dealer for 8 years. Someone like that would definitely be a negative influence on her. It gave her the opportunity for the planned robbery and murder through her boyfriend's connections, and if she, say, lived alone in some apartment with some job as a cashier, even if she had thoughts of killing her parents, she would definitely not carry through with the idea.

@CODA the term is "barking UP the wrong tree" as in a dog barking up at a cat in a tree.

@CODA the term is "barking UP the wrong tree" as in a dog barking up at a cat in a tree.

@Trey Killian I believe it’s a cultural thing with Asians. My step mother is Chinese and I’ve experienced the expectations and comparisons to others. I’m fortunate in that I lived with my mom and 4 brothers. Completely different perspective and support system. We all were successful and are retired now. There’s never been any love for our step mother as she was so unrealistic and clueless to our reality’s.

I think it's a combination of her parents being really strict, (despite likely coming from the hardline position of wanting her to succeed), her interaction with the world in relation to theirs and her expectations, the way events played out in her life, and ultimately a pathological relationship with shame. I've always wondered about the psychological impact of an Olympic athlete that trains their whole life only to get injured. It's got to be a devastating event and if it wasn't handled correctly, or she didn't get the sense of unconditional love from her parents, I could see that starting the spiral.

I actually see bits and pieces of relatability in her story purely from to the way your parents prepare you for the world compared to the world you eventually experience. They can be drastically different and sometimes you can build a resentment based on that towards your upbringing, but you eventually have to realize that it's something you have to grapple with rather than project onto your upbringing. I was blessed with parents where unconditional love was never really in doubt, so it was much easier for me to see past that immature projection phase, but in her case, maybe it was much, much harder. That said, I've had many friends that had demanding parents not unlike hers, and they certainly didn't murder them. I think her case might be a perfect storm of a wide variety of things that lined up in all the wrong ways. She gained acceptance and validaiton from the wrong crowd at the wrong time, likely an extremely vulnerable time in her life. Combine that with an escalation of that projection of her own shame of not succeeding onto her parents, and it all builds and builds. I wouldn't doubt she reached several "point of no return" moments, that I even found myself in sometimes where you know your families going to be mad when they find something out, so may as well keep going. It's a twisted thought process that can take you to dark places, and again, while I can say I'm blessed with an incredible loving family, there's so, so many that fall just short enough to lead to disaster when all the wrong things fall into place.

She's 100% culpable, she's 100% guilty and there are people that have transcended childhoods and situations vastly worse than hers, so she has no excuse. But it's also hard to not look at the events that likely unfolded and not see the end result as preventable had there been more openness and reinforcement of unconditional love that I honestly believe every parent should show their child.

Even if her parents are as monstrous/toxic as she says.

Then she'd just go away/disown

Even if her parents are as monstrous/toxic as she says.

Then she'd just go away/disown

@romiedahomie Her parents were abusive, probably to the point where the girl felt so cornered, that murder was her only option. I blame the parents for this entire story. You are barking at the wrong tree if you really think her parents just wanted her to be successful

Like, I wish my parents would send me back to school!

Like, I wish my parents would send me back to school!

@romiedahomie How easy it is to judge from you life after your life experiences. Notice how many lies and tricks the interrogators play against her. Nobody cares now about her, shes roting in jail and people like you hates her. And i dont justify her, she did a huge mistake.

@romiedahomie no her parents didn't care about her. They cared about their image and what they would tell to others.

@romiedahomie no her parents didn't care about her. They cared about their image and what they would tell to others.

@Kingof Grim her abusive parents who thought she was successful and doing great but upon hearing the whole thing was fabricated.. put her on house arrest? Yea how abusive. They may have pushed her to do well in school but frankly none of us know the lengths and fact is they thought she was doing well

@romiedahomie her parents definitely didn’t deserve to die, but the push to be successful no matter what can do more harm than good. it’s not necessarily wanting your child to succeed, it’s forcing them to do what you want no matter what they want.

@romiedahomie I mean it’s understandable she didn’t like her abusive parents, but to kill them like that? Yeah no. Beyond awful

@romiedahomie I mean it’s understandable she didn’t like her abusive parents, but to kill them like that? Yeah no. Beyond awful

@romiedahomie more common than it should be thats for sure

@romiedahomie more common than it should be thats for sure

What kind of scum of a person do you have to be to even consider murdering your parents especially in this girls situation. Her parents want her to be successful and she’s lucky, a lot of parents don’t encourage there kids to try hard in school and don’t even provide financial support for their kids if they are going to college.


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She did something monstrous, no question about that. But it makes me sad to see how pathetically she asked the detective if he had to leave. That woman has not had a supportive ear in decades, that detective was the most understood she's felt in years. What a haunting case.

@jman I agree with you, the parents should not be blamed. It was just stark to me how much comfort she tried to get out of the detective after doing something so cold-blooded and horrifying. It's like she still thought of her crime as a thing she was "driven" to do instead of actually stepping up to her responsibility. Almost like she's stuck somewhere in her childhood and sees herself as helpless and just trying to save herself - almost like a "look what they made me do" moment. Absolutely deluded.

@Va11idus i'm not making excuses for her. c'mon now, you sound like a toxic ex boyfriend. trying to point out she is a broken individual and her story is tragic. she's not the monster everyone thinks she is.

@mars bar if you could get a gold medal for the mental gymnastics you're doing to make excuses for a murderer, I'm sure you'd get it.

@masemenos nobody will help the people like us who have such difficult lives because they don't have to deal with it. it's the sad truth. just know you're not alone.

@Va11idus you may not have to be gifted to pass, but to make her parent's happy she would fake her grades. soon enough, your grades will slip more than they already are because you're faking those said grades and dealing with a drug dealer boyfriend while ALSO dealing with your parents and sports...that's so much. TOO much.

Yeah, she’s the only murderer (technically she isnt a murderer) that I have felt sorry for. That last bit of the video where she asks the guy if he has to leave and he tells her that he does but will be back, just sent my heart. She trusted this guy (yes, being as emotionally unstable and going through everything that Jen went through prior to the murders, you’d trust the detective too even if you knew they were against you anyway— anything for someone that listens and pretends to care), and really felt like he cared. Only for the narrator to tell us that that detective never returned to the room, and the next time Jen saw him, he was testifying against her <\3

@mars bar you don't have to be "academically gifted" to PASS, dude...

@mars bar you don't have to be "academically gifted" to PASS, dude...

@Va11idus it’s stated in the video that she wasn’t academically gifted. if she brought back certain grades she’d get in trouble, and that shit gets tiring. if my parents DEMANDED straight a’s out of me, I would get really upset. if it was this expected of me, i would fake my grades too. she was focusing hard on her athletics, as stated in the video, and then she couldn’t skate anymore so she had nothing for her parents to praise her, any lick of praise from anyone and she would be hooked on it. living this kind of life is draining, mentally debilitating even, especially on a child. i know she’s an adult at this point, but she loved her whole entire life like this

@wasd wasd "expecting someone to excel at an Olympic standard" and expecting someone to pass their classes and graduate high school are two completely different things. If she cared about school half as much as she cared about lying about school, she would have easily graduated. You don't have to be a genius to graduate high school.

@Vilimir now you are twisting the facts you have no proof she wasn't beaten at any point in time as someone who has strict parents you wouldn't believe what I went threw just cause I got a question wrong on my home work if you didn't grow up with “ tiger “ parents their is an aspect of this you will never under stand. I wouldn't kill my parents but I can understand someone especially if they have a mental illness on top of all the mental pressure can draw someone to kill either them self or their parents

Nicely put.
This is all building up from the start.
She is obviously not one bit innocent, but it's interesting to analyze how the way she's lived her life has led up to this. She opened up soo easily to the detectives, people that would obviously use all of that against her...

Maryam yeah, they are doing the wrong thing but can't just call people lowlife for that. It's kinda "discriminative"??( sorry im pretty sure i used it wrong but really don't know how to describe😂 ). it's like you assume they're just worse, while in reality you couldn't know for real.

From what i learned the parents basicly "created a Monster that went out of control" in a way. Of course this is one extreme case but in the end their way of raising Jenny would culminate in this event. Love and care for a child has never to be tied to expectations. It has to be free and without any demands. Rules? Yes. Demands? No.

@Optimistic Nihlist Whew! When you find outtt...😬🥺😔

@Optimistic Nihlist Whew! When you find outtt...😬🥺😔

@Petite Sayo I disagree with the part the child doesn't have to pay back for it, yes that is true when they are a child or are maybe struggling themselves, but if I had a child that dropped out of school and had no future plans, yes I would no longer support them and ask them to pay rent or they would rely on me forever and never learn to live on their own.

@Petite Sayo not all people are good, she could have just left.

@Petite Sayo not all people are good, she could have just left.

@Sky she lived with her boyfriend and his family for years pretending to be on college.  It's not like she didn't have options.

@Sky i really hope he doesn't have kids. he thinks that having strict parents it's just about pressuring good grades.
having strict parents is them demanding straight A's, is being constantly compared to other students, friends and family, excessively controlling and restraining who you hang out with, being trash-talked, having hobbies and goals crushed or harassed/having ones that you don't enjoy at all.
it fucks you up, just look at what happened to her and many other sociopaths who become murderers thanks to their shitty and depressive childhood.
she dropped out early, and one lie became another lie, just heavier and heavier. she was dragging a whole narrative because of fear. she feared her parents. your own children fear you, congratulations, i guess. no kid should go through all that.

it's disgusting that people bring children to the world and think they owe them just because they decided to have unprotected sex. you're the problem of society

Jennifer Pan's parents could start a master class in "how to make your daughter vulnerable to terrible boys." All he had to do was give her any kind of positive reinforcement and she was hooked.

@Vilimir

One advice. Don't have kids,  -). Also, the parents are immigrants from another country. They have adopted  other cultural values before moving to Canada; we see this all the time; is this new to you?

The honor killing? I'm telling you that many kids deal with unseen pressure that goes beyond what you or I can see. It's not as simple as saying... ya but she can move out.

And no, that part about the 15 years is very relevant. For starters, how you were raised as a child influences your thought process as an adult. Furthermore, I'm trying to illustrate  the pressure and expectation that asian kids ( chinese,vietnamese, japanese,korean, Ect..)  have to deal with within their own culture .

If bad grades and pressure can cause a pandemic in which kids, some young as 10, to end their life, why wouldn't it be possible for others to just lose themselves  and want to hurt others? Not like that has never happened before.  This one just took a while before she snapped It's really hard to connect those dots? Finally

If I read a responds in which I have to waste more time explaining to you simple  ideas, then have fun talking to yourself -).

@Neoblade21 I agree, they were strict, but not as monstrous as some people make them out to be. I do understand if she had some resentment towards them, but they were the good guys in the end, they did offer her the choice of choosing between one of her two lives. Why she came back to murder them? Money? Grudge? Even if the answer is YES to both questions, that doesn't warrant murdering the people that gave you your life.

@Vilimir Getting straight A's is a bit more than being a "good student".  It's not impossible since there are kids who are clearly capable of that but that simply just isn't true for everyone.  There's nothing wrong with wanting your child to bring their grades up or even wanting them to push themselves to succeed but it's important to know when you're putting way too much pressure on them.  All that does is stresses them the fuck out and likely also makes them resent you.

No one is justifying her murdering her parents.  They  may have been overly strict in some regards but that doesn't warrant murder and she deserves whatever consequences come from that.  However, it's not hard to see where all of this resentment towards her parents came from.

She displays very clear psychopathic traits but her upbringing certainly didn’t help matters.

She displays very clear psychopathic traits but her upbringing certainly didn’t help matters.

@Petite Sayo okay but if that kid gets past, at the very least, age 22 (and not taking extra education) without a job and keeps subsisting off of your income or retirement funds, I’d think it would be reasonable to expect them to start doing things for you or to leave. I have this legitimate problem here at home, I have a near 27 year old brother who still lives with us but does nothing. No job, no college, nothing. But I guess it’s unreasonable to expect an adult to fucking do something isn’t it

@jman I believe parents are part of the equation here.  They raised her so they partly share blame.  I mean, she did try to have them killed.  Clearly she thought their parenting was terrible.

Nobody is blameless here.  It's totally her fault, but the parents are far from innocent.

@jman I believe parents are part of the equation here.  They raised her so they partly share blame.  I mean, she did try to have them killed.  Clearly *she* thought their parenting was terrible.

Nobody is blameless here.  It's totally her fault, but the parents are far from innocent.

We really blaming the parents here ? She could have taken option 2 and left with her bf , but its obvious what she wanted. Her parents inheritance . Shit she didnt even have the balls to commit the murder herself .

@Vilimir Parent/children's relationship isn't some kind of 50/50 deal. The parents are the ones that want her to go to school, so it isn't like "She uses their money".
Also, a child is supposed to live under their parents' roof. At which point is it okay to think the child should pay back for it ?
You're talking like she asked a favor from her parents. It isn't a favor to live under your parent's roofs, it's something you're entitled to as long as you can't support yourself, because it's your parents' job to make you into someone that can support themselves.

Children do not have to "give something in exchange" when their parents do not give them what they need. Because no, these parents certainly didn't give her the support nor the health she needed.
This girl suffered from a great injury, had her dream completely crushed and her parents didn't even care about how she felt. The only thing they cared about was her being a good student. Not only did they not support her, they even made her feel like a failure.
At which point is it okay to treat your child like it's some kind of slave you own ? At which point is it normal to consider the parent's expectations as more important than the child's wellbeing ?

And they didn't "just want her to go to school". They wanted her to EXCEL, without taking into account that she must have been traumatized by what happened to her. They didn't fucking care about her health. They blamed her for her own suffering.

@Royla Soldier She lied to them because she was terrified by them. Do you really think she lied about so many things just for fun ? She litterally threw her life away because she feared her parents' reaction.

If you don't want your children lying to you, don't give them a reason to. Being reliable isn't the child's job, it's the parent's.

They didn't support her and only were a threat to her, so OF COURSE she's going to lie to them.

@Optimistic Nihlist a very sad case out of Colorado.  Jim can't swim has a three part video about it.

@Optimistic Nihlist a very sad case out of Colorado.  Jim can't swim has a three part video about it.

@Lucia _kidtech she lived with her boyfriend and his family for years pretending to be in college.

@Lucia _kidtech she lived with her boyfriend and his family for years pretending to be in college.

@Lucia _kidtech woman, she was living under their roof and using their money for school and other stuff, it is normal to demand something in return as a parent, she wasn't chained in her room like you present it to be; if she had chosen option 1 she would've lived under some tough draconian rules, but before finding out about her double life her parents wanted her just to be a good student and have a normal boyfriend (not a lowlife); I can't believe people are justifying her murder by criticizing her parents

she can have a 3way with chris watts and casey anthony

she can have a 3way with chris watts and casey anthony

@Vilimir yeah sure she could have left her entire world of which she has been forcefully held in her entire life with no support which she has probably relying on, yeah just leave her entire life behind because her parents want to much from her and she most likely couldn't bare to live under her parents.

@nick n yeah because she lied to them with fake grades and fake collage admision, ofc they wont let her leave the house if she is 24 years old and decides to spend her life with a lowlife boyfriend with her parents money. So they gave her a choice and she decided to do something horific that cant  be excused in any way

@Vilimir yes and the others like @wasd wasd and @vhyles explained it very well, but i hope you arent calling drugs dealers "lowlifes" just because they deal drugs. yes, her bf and everyone involved in the killing of her parents are wrong for doing so, but lets not associate all drug dealers and these so called "lowlifes" with murderers.

@Vilimir Sheltered, or overly controlled kids often go wild when they're less controlled. They never had to make choices before so they're very easely abused, misled, etc. They never had to develop self-control also so it definitely makes sense that theyd fall into drugs wich is the definition of short‐term "gains" if you can call it that.

She went to EXTREME lenghts to disguise the truth to her parents, that's definitely not normal. I would not be surprised if they were really that strict.

Still, dosent excuse her actions of course.

@Vilimir Yeah anyone that would pointlessly kill for you like that isn't exactly a good person. He could've done so much, he could've taken her away from it all since he wasn't in her position. Its not easy for someone in her mindset to just accept a choice in that ultimatum either, she doesn't have the same awareness as someone who hasn't had that pressure. Its the same reason why people who are physically abused by their partners stay trapped with them. Even though they could very easily and quite literally just drive away.

Everyone wants their kids to be good and get good grades but it seems like an extreme case(insert Asian stereotype). Even after she lost her ability to Skate which was obviously a big deal they expected her to excel to an Olympic standard in something else just like that, I get the feeling that the pressure was quite extreme. I don't know anything about any of them so its all speculation from what I've seen. I felt similar pressure growing up and I understood her need to hide grades and to feel trapped living with them, you don't know anything else but this life, genuinely sad.

Yeah from what we're given its definitely a sad case all around. How can parents treat their kids like that man, I understand wanting them to succeed but you shouldn't dominate their lives. Just how it happens, such minor non-issue things lead to stupid shit, letting her have a boyfriend or not pushing for such success so much would've saved the mothers life and avoided this whole thing.


Imagine how her parents' souls felt when they realized she was gonna fail her own murder plot

Her: * fails entire life *
Parents: * look down in disappointment *
Her: * fails her own murder plot *
Parents: * looks down in DISAPPOINTMENT *

I mean, she got pretty far with those fake acting and stuff…

Oh my god that is both horrible and savage - I love it.

disappointed Asian parents can't rest in peace

Id imagine there ghosts haunting her for the rest of her life

Probably a D- since she already failed at part where she explains how she managed to call 911!


I have watched all your video's and am grateful that you made them. Keep them coming!!!


It’s kinda sad how attached she got with the officer, asking him if he had to leave and that he said he was on her side. I think that she had so little attention and care from her parents, that the most minimal sign of affection from others make her so vulnerable. Maybe that’s why she was with someone like her boyfriend and why she didn’t bring him up during the interrogation. Still, she did something horrible and very cold-blooded, she was an adult responsible for her actions, she was 24, she could have start her own life away from her parents an any time.

She could have easily left her parents behind and chosen to cut them off but greed wins everytime. She wanted their financial support, she needed their 💰money, so her thoughts led to if I kill them I get rid of them AND get their money. It wasn't about her "freedom", it was about her selfishness

@Bio mutant but how do you know this , your a family friend or sumn? It didn’t have to happen that night they could’ve been hitting her when she was younger over excessively not saying it was ok what she did but you don’t know anything

@erin g she had an abusive boyfriend that asked her for money and constantly cheated on her. She was actually planning to spend most of her inheritance money on keeping her boyfriend happy, she actually made enough money to live on her own.

@Zoura Studios she has already escaped though, she just wanted the money, this is why motivation is important, distancing herself and lying to her parents isn’t (in my opinion) wrong given the circumstances but her choosing to kill them once financial support (that she didn’t need) was going to be cut is what makes not feel bad for her at all.

@Bobby Kilon she didn’t get beat up though

i thought this too. she could have decided to build her own family and give her children the love she never had but sadly that would probably require at least a bit of therapy. i’ll never understand why people decide to murder instead of trying to solve their problems.

@Mika Magnol she prolly didnt want them to live every moment of their life in shame and disappointment after she left.

@inertgas yes better parenting, but also she needed to speak to a therapist to have someone talk with her.

@P R it really sucks that this shift in parents happens so fucking late in life when the damage has already been done. Many foreign parents start off as abusive to their children and then shift when they start to see them as actual humans separate from them (and their expectations). I’m really happy that you and ur mom have a good relationship tho! Sometimes that shit never heals.

She wanted the freedom to do as she pleases, but also their money. You can't have both unless your parents are complete pushovers, which is why the ultimatum they gave her was fair, and I'm surprised they even gave one despite her lying for so long.

@Lisa Porter-Smith also the fact that she planned this whole thing out like this. She talked to her friends while they were doing it, and heard her dads screams and didn't care <br>all because she would be financially cut off by her parents...that right there says everything

@Lisa Porter-Smith also the fact that she planned this whole thing out like this. She talked to her friends while they were doing it, and heard her dads screams and didn't care
all because she would be financially cut off by her parents...that right there says everything

@AntitheticalElysium holding love from your children away when expectations arent perfectly met IS emotional ABUSE!

@AntitheticalElysium You have no idea how bad it gets.. suffering from verbal, physical and emotional abuse for years without once being able to talk back can make some sons and daughters build up ridiculous amounts of resentment towards their parent/s. My brother is that way towards my mom. If you talk about her, he'd just blow up and get steaming mad, list out all of the abuse we've been through and how it has affected him as a child and as an adult (like, even when she's not around, he'd get red-faced and have those crazy eyes, scares me sometimes). Our mom's the typical Asian tiger mom, she'd tutor us personally every night, always had us take a mock exam the night before any exam (starting from 1st grade up to middle school). I remember crying because my hands hurt from writing for too long, feigning passing out late at night so I can finally go to sleep, bruised hands from her hitting it with a stick/pencil and bruised thighs from her pinching, getting my textbooks wet with tears, etc. She used to punish us severely as well, and we grew up really terrified of her. Maybe I am resentful too but I kind of attribute my academic success to my mom's methods, and I try to forgive her and think only of the good she's done. Definitely not good parenting technique though, the tension between us is still there even though we're all grown up.

@AntitheticalElysium abuse comes in different forms, not only physical. Emotional, Sexual or Psychological abuse.

@AntitheticalElysium not that different actually

@nicole meyr explain how they are the same

Not condoning her behaviour but my parents were so strict and emotionally abusive when I was a teenager at one point I considered killing them too. I feel like she possibly felt she had no way out of this ultimatum and may have developed ASPD (as experienced myself) and detached her empathy from her parents from the trauma of the authoritarian parenting style and lack of love and attention as a child and the pressure they put on her to get straight As. It could have all just been too much and she couldn't take it anymore. I'm still not condoning her actions though but I can understand it.

@AntitheticalElysium setting ridiculously high standards for your children can be a form of abuse though. Because it CAN damage your child. There is a clear difference between wanting your children to achieve good things vs what these parents were like.

@Zoura Studios fk, something the last detective say covers it perfectly. the high expectations places pressure on the person which has her feeling 'trapped' (well put by you) and she makes a mistake n does something she would most definitely regret. shame man. usually after these vids i read through a ton of comments, but all the comments i read here just bringing me back to the fact that this is a tragedy for both the parents and that girl. all their lives basically done. see yall in the nex vid man. sighh

Well, she was never really taught how to make her own decisions. So the few decisions she did make on her weren't great. I don't understand why she didn't just choose to leave. What she did was absolutely wrong, but if her parents had just focused on her wellbeing she probably would've turned out to be a good person.. and maybe even happy..

I can totally agree with you.. I am 24 rit now... My mom loved me so much... But never expressed... Being typical Asian (Indian) mom I used to get beaten most of the time when it comes to academics.. bcz of that just in my 12th class I was in relationship with a high-school drop out.   It was kind of abusive relationship but still for the fact that I was getting affection it went on and off for 4 year's..  Again family got involved but no option was given.  I just had to stop.  But then mom started expressing her feelings.  She did not wanted to loose me... All she did was for my good as per the parent perspective...but we are good now.. actually since the time I went out of home for my college.. staying away made our bond strong and she started expressing her love towards me... I am having better life and an independent women ❤

I've had friends that had far worse parents and didn't kill anyone, its a lame excuse. She could of walked away but she was greedy and wanted their cash

But they would have cut off all money from her. Only reason she didn't just leave

@Ellie Green it's simple really. Two selfish people being together giving life to what would unfortunately be a slave to the whims of said selfish people.

@Kha'Beast That's what I thought too when she chose them over her freedom. However that also means that she wouldn't have attempted to murder because the syndrome causes bonding/sympathy. It's more of vengeance and hatred.

@AntitheticalElysium she’s Asian they don’t just discipline their kids with words they beat to remember that ..

@AntitheticalElysium but then again, in a way, these high expectations can damage a child. They seemed really overly controlling, they made her feel trapped. I’m not condoning murder for this obviously, but I can see how she finally had enough and saw this as her only escape from her mental prison

@Ellie Green There's a difference between high expectations and outright abuse. Having a lot of pressure be put on your back in regards to schoolwork and the like is no reason to hurt a member of your family, much less murder them in cold blood.

That is true, but weirdly, abusive families are hard to understand.

Yeah I think this whole thing could’ve been avoided with better parenting but yeah still not a reason to kill others


31:32 it was then when she knew that she messed up, she wanted that to be a strong liquor.

I love watching the police questioning them, so satisfying.


Brilliant analysis, all police officers should watch this.


Not every child is academically gifted, some children will be smarter than others in class. Some will have to work really hard to get a decent grade, others will barely need to try. To make a child be something it is not and push them to breaking point is wrong and cruel and only leads to negative outcomes. Love and encourage your children but don't push them so hard that they break.


"I want you to think: this guy is investigating my parents death and will leave no stone unturned to catch who did it"
screams internally

"I want you to think: this guy is investigating my parents death and will leave no stone unturned to catch who did it"
*screams internally*


She didn't looked like the type that would do something like this. Kinda scary. They look innocent until you hear what they actually did.


Another thing is that her dad was up stairs as well and somehow he came running up the stairs after they leave and then he didn't untie his daughter or call the cops? Or stay by his wife's side? And then runs onto the street but he was inside it sounded like he was in a room with a door open during the phonecall


I wanted to watch this for 10-15 minutes before going back to study... but I couldn't stop once I started the video(pun intended🤣)<br>On another note, this is like a drama😱 Kudos to the investigator, wow 👏

I wanted to watch this for 10-15 minutes before going back to study... but I couldn't stop once I started the video(pun intended🤣)
On another note, this is like a drama😱 Kudos to the investigator, wow 👏


I image the father waking up thinking "You can not even plan a murder properly! you are even more of a disgrace to this family!"

@Requiem Agent
Seriously?
You watch too many bad movies.
You're right though in that they should have played it out for real, including actually tying her hands but not to the bannister so that she could realistically get to and manipulate her phone.

Literally bet he’s rolling in his grave in dis honor they don’t play bout that lol

@Sharpe    Hahaha....Hey i gotta use that one.

@robert curatolo y’know what they say, C’s earn degrees.... in this case it was a 1st degree.

@advakart getting shot would have cemented the story and she wouldn't have had to make up what they told her, then the ransacking would have made more sense, they were looking for money.

Lol yeh probably. Like Jose menendez would of been thinking about his kids.

That would be hilarious. A great punishment for her too lol

You will never bring your family honor 🎖

Ok im sorry I see myself out ✌

@Ophelia Sutcliff Lool!!! God, the comments are brutal! Exactly what i came for!

@Requiem Agent what? even a shot to the arm, shoulder or leg can lead to amputations, ptsd, or even be fatal. why risk so much harm? this isn't a movie or a videogame, there is no guaranteeing a non lethal shot. and even if she managed to make it out with her limb intact, if she still acted suspiciously, they'd be able to track her down. less likely for sure, but still a possibility. that's a lot of risk for very little reward...

Man this comment is golden, This cracked me up lmfao

reminds me of stalin and his son. his son was sucha failiure.. he failed to kill himself.. ouch...

I think we all know why she got caught she is a C minus student...lol

what you think he will die without first telling her she was a disappointment. come on


The fact that she still lies even when caughjust shows no empathy


Also she said she was watching TV when her mom called her dad loudly on the first interrogation and she said she turn the volume down to hear whats going on and on the second interrogation she said she was on her phone with her friend when her mom called her dad loudly and she had to hang up the phone to see whats going on 🤔🤷♀


Now after watching all these videos I’m scared I know too much about investigations which will make me seem suspicious or the make me act weird and unintentionally make myself a suspect 💀

If you ever end up in an interrogation room there's exactly two things you should ever say: 1. Am I free to leave? (If they do not give a straight answer, repeat until they do) and if you aren't free then 2. I want a lawyer. (Again, repeat until they comply) Saying anything else can and will get you into trouble.

If you ever end up in an interrogation room there's *exactly* two things you should ever say: 1. Am I free to leave? (If they do not give a straight answer, repeat until they do) and if you aren't free then 2. I want a lawyer. (Again, repeat until they comply) Saying anything else can and *will* get you into trouble.


with all the pressure she was going thru from her parents having that “control” on her all throughout school and now forced to choose between them or her relationship with no family contact I’m not surprised of the parents outcome I mean you can only rattle someone’s cage for so long until that chain breaks and when it breaks the unthinkable happens like so… she should’ve chose her relationship moved out and proved her parents wrong that she can make it on her own without depending on them but anger and greed got the best of her


Tbh, most Asian parents would have an extreme reaction if they realised their academically underperforming child had been forging their educational documents for years and had actually dropped out of high school a long time ago and had been living with their drug-dealer boyfriend. I wish they weren't, but things like these are a really huge deal in any Asian society and household.

I actually think they respected the fact that she was an adult by giving her that option, and I don't see how them being super strict justifies what she did.

I think most parents anywhere would have an extreme reaction to that! I mean it’s kind of a big deal to any normal parents! <br>I grew up with extremely strict religious parents and no not a reason to plan their death. I probably had less freedom than her too smh.

I think most parents anywhere would have an extreme reaction to that! I mean it’s kind of a big deal to any normal parents!
I grew up with extremely strict religious parents and no not a reason to plan their death. I probably had less freedom than her too smh.


Jennifer is no longer going home after this interview had me deadddd  lmaooo


I'd be suspicious right at the point where she described her parents' assailants as 'gentlemen'.


Wait, hold up. Two grand?? Three people agreed to commit double homicide splitting two thousand bucks three ways?! I, I, wh- what?!


Her calm tone when talking about the "aggressor" is another red flag


I feel like her demonstration of how she got to her phone isn't good, though? hard to describe but the twist she has to do toward the banister would be difficult, visible, and especially if she's yelling (at which point when she says this she seems to be questioning and seeking approval) she would likely alert the robbers, yeah?
it also just seems difficult and like depending on the tightness it would leave marks...
During the call she doesn't seem to be yelling at least some of the time, either.

I feel like her demonstration of how she got to her phone isn't good, though? hard to describe but the twist she has to do *toward* the banister would be difficult, visible, and especially if she's yelling (at which point when she says this she seems to be questioning and seeking approval) she would likely alert the robbers, yeah?
it also just seems difficult and like depending on the tightness it would leave marks...
During the call she doesn't seem to be yelling at least some of the time, either.


She could have just run away better dang. I had strict parents too and I ran away with my boyfriend like 2 weeks before turning 18. We are still together to this day (16 years). My relationship with my parents only got better.

They gave her that option. She wanted her parents' money.