Of course her parents didn't deserve what they got, but kids don't come out of the womb like this. There was a lot that led up to this incident. A lot.

This case should be a warning for us as a society to encourage proper communication and unconditional love in the home. Of course that goes along with appropriate consequences, but the love is the most critical.

@Zach Yes, gender has nothing to do with it. Upbringing can greatly affect a child's developing brain.

@Zach Yes, gender has nothing to do with it. Upbringing can greatly affect a child's developing brain.

@kristova Palenkova It's not an excuse. It's an explanation.

@kristova Palenkova It's not an excuse. It's an explanation.

follow God, show love, practice communication.  God Bless you all!♡

follow God, show love, practice communication.  God Bless you all!♡

@Jen K Yes, I just replied this in another comment, but If you read about it, you will come to understand that some people are born that way - psychopathic, and some people are formed into that, but may also have had a sort of predisposition to it - sociopathic. There is a chance she could be either, or none, but this seems like a bit more than bad parenting and a single bad decision, wouldn't you say?

@Pearl skis Respond to this with my own words in quotes where I tell people what to believe. I could save you some time-<del>you won't find it... I just gave some compelling arguments as to why I believe it is goofy to believe in God. What you're saying here is just another reason, maybe the largest reason why its goofy -</del> God is an OPINION. The big man on the throne is an abstract opinion that's reinforced by groupthink and 2000 years of cultural conditioning.

@Pearl skis Respond to this with my own words in quotes where I tell people what to believe. I could save you some time--you won't find it... I just gave some compelling arguments as to why I believe it is goofy to believe in God. What you're saying here is just another reason, maybe the largest reason why its goofy -- God is an OPINION. The big man on the throne is an abstract opinion that's reinforced by groupthink and 2000 years of cultural conditioning.

@Jen K psychopaths are born, sociopaths are formed. Both are callous and are able to kill without remorse. Yes she could have come out of the womb a crazy, heartless person, but her parents probably had something to do with it.

Kin Sin It’s kinda different when you’re expected to be a prodigy from birth, and only become emotionally/physically torn down until you become someone they want you to be

@Kin Sin Your lack of psychology knowledge is so baffling, I have to assume you're American

@Kin Sin Your lack of psychology knowledge is so baffling, I have to assume you're American

@Eve D again I'm so sorry all this happened to you. I hope you're in therapy.<br>But again, as someone who was born, raised and educated in Poland (I'm from Krakow) I have never been sorounded or experienced that kind of mentality. Tiger parenting is not part of our culture and while abuse happens just like in every other country it is not something that's common. Perhaps like you said it was a small town thing.

@Eve D again I'm so sorry all this happened to you. I hope you're in therapy.
But again, as someone who was born, raised and educated in Poland (I'm from Krakow) I have never been sorounded or experienced that kind of mentality. Tiger parenting is not part of our culture and while abuse happens just like in every other country it is not something that's common. Perhaps like you said it was a small town thing.

@MsBlondeYo I've seen worse happen to friends tbh. Small town life maybe? They all justify it. But appearances seem to be more important than individuality. I had a friend of twenty years stop talking to me because she was a lawyer and all of a sudden she was more important than anyone else. The honorific system is just like the one in Japan too. Referring to people by their career title. Polish university destroyed my self esteem. It's probably somewhat less extreme but it's still there.

@MsBlondeYo so am I.  my parents lived through a communist Poland. When I failed through medical School my parents made me pretend to my entire family that I was still attending school. I'm in my 30s now and a big chunk of the family thinks that I finished medical school. I came home and I was so depressed that I attempted suicide 4 times.but my parents were against getting any similarity of psychiatric help because that looks bad on the family. My dad once beat the crap out of me as an adult for looking sloppy to a wedding. I'm talking blown out eye. He took the door off my room in the basement when I was 26 because my boyfriend was visiting.

@Eve D I agree with your observation but nothing like that goes on in any of the European cultures (Im a European).

@Eve D I agree with your observation but nothing like that goes on in any of the European cultures (Im a European).

@MsBlondeYo it's the culture tbh. I am with you on gypsy. But they have collective cultures in Asian and many european nations. And so the good and the needs of the whole collective are more important than the needs and the good of the individual. That's why suicide rates are so high in those cultures. The shame and guilt are insane.

Another part to this is that by agreeing to live with her parents and not get cut off, she technically satisfied her parents and her bfs desires. If she chose to leave she would be cutting herself off from her entire identity which feels like killing a part of yourself and that might seem unbearable. It's fucked up yes but it's like a cult mentality. Her boyfriend eventually started dating someone new without those restrictions and so this was her way of trying to not lose him while still maintaining her own honor within the culture? She'd be free but also she would not be blamed for making the wrong choice.

This is just theory on my part. But I definitely relate to the collective culture ideology way too much as well.

While I agree she has definitely grew up in an obviously abusive household, her story is totally different from Gypsy Blanchard, who in my opinion was totally justified as far as murdering her mother went.<br>Jennifer's reasons for killing her parents seem to be purely financial. She was given an option to walk away and be free but she didn't like the idea of being financially cut off. She probably hated her parents and blamed them for ruining their life. She was unable to pursue whatever that was she wanted to pursue and had to lie to get controlling parents off her back. We don't know why she hasn't just moved out at the age of 18-19 which is what she should have done.

While I agree she has definitely grew up in an obviously abusive household, her story is totally different from Gypsy Blanchard, who in my opinion was totally justified as far as murdering her mother went.
Jennifer's reasons for killing her parents seem to be purely financial. She was given an option to walk away and be free but she didn't like the idea of being financially cut off. She probably hated her parents and blamed them for ruining their life. She was unable to pursue whatever that was she wanted to pursue and had to lie to get controlling parents off her back. We don't know why she hasn't just moved out at the age of 18-19 which is what she should have done.

@Kin Sin everyone reacts differently to various types of traumas and abuses. Some come out stronger , some come out screwed up. Your story while admirable does not make a rule. We are psychologically complex creatures, not a  one size fits all.

You can both empathize with somebody's experience and trauma and say that their actions aren't justified by it. Both can be true. We can humanize some parts of it while rejecting the behavior.

I can relate to her struggles with her parents. I was in medical school at some point and heavily struggling with an undiagnosed health condition. I was under so much pressure from family that I started cutting myself and vomiting in my early 20s because I felt so much shame over not meeting expectations. My family didn't believe in getting help for mental health. They shamed me for it. But my boyfriend encouraged it even though he was abusive as fuck. And so I got all the help I could get. And that saved me..And things actually got better. I stopped having a toxic relationship with my family and started setting boundaries. I was desperate at one point but also didn't believe I could make it on my own and felt isolated. I needed mental health aid and support. It was awful.

@billytringuyen Maybe, maybe she was institutionalized mentally and become co-dependent on them.

@billytringuyen Maybe, maybe she was institutionalized mentally and become co-dependent on them.

she could of just left and live on her own

she could of just left and live on her own

@kristova Palenkova Most people will agree with you but say but . I won't.  We kill people by working for corporations that pollute the water and make people sick. We kill people when we sign up for armies and then go to war. In the past we killed people in duels or in feuds .  The state certainly kills. It kills for murder but in many other cases too, such as treason or rape and in other countries for drugs or for belief.

Why do the decisions of the collective merit more concern than those of the individual?

Maybe you'll go ahead and say "Im against all those things". But thats a lame copt out.

Kill one and its a murder kill a thousand and its a statistic. Sadly our world really does work like that.  Her years of mental anguish certainly made it right to kill in her mind. Who is to say it wouldnt have made it right in yours if you were put through something similar or what ever would be the equivalent for you.

Then there are some kids who grew up with no love but becomes good human when they grow up. <br>You're sick for empathizing with people responsible for murder.

Then there are some kids who grew up with no love but becomes good human when they grow up.
You're sick for empathizing with people responsible for murder.

Unless you birth a baby with chemical imbalance in the brain. One that doesn't understand emotions as well as us. Essentially, a psychopath. Then yes. It do come out of the womb lyk dat.

@robby I think a good person can be so much traumatized to the point to do such crimes. Imagine those children of the ISIS organization that learns how to kill people since they are able to hold a gun, they were born good, but the influences around them made them bad.

@robby thats your opinion and believing that God exist is theirs. You don't even know y people believe in God unless u personally interview every single one of them. Try finding the truth, love yourself but please...your opinion on "what others think" IS correct should be stop.

@Melon Y Just because Kin Sin was in foster care, and had difficult childhood experiences, it doesn't mean they necessarily had a worse experience than Jennifer. Foster parents can be kind and loving, they can provide a better quality of care than biological parents sometimes. All it takes is one good enough caring person in a child's life, to love them unconditionally, listen and validate, and most kids will turn out ok, even if everything else is horrendous. I guess, by your account, I'm pathological, because I feel bad for this girl. But babies aren't born bad or evil. But some  are born into a harmful environment, where instead of unconditional love, warmth and nurture, they get abuse and neglect, and not enough of their emotional and psychological needs met. Of course outcomes vary, some broken kids turn the aggression in on themselves leading to self harming behavior, self sabotage, drug use and suicide. Others act out, like Jennifer did.  Human monsters are not born, they are created, one painful event at a time, with no one there to notice or care. To me, your lack of understanding and empathy, is pathological.

@Kameren Higdon I also feel bad for her. I feel worse for her, than I do for her parents if I'm being honest. She was a victim from birth, didn't stand a chance being born to parents like that. I've heard that for a child to grow up emotionally healthy, there needs to be at least one good enough parent in their life. That means one caring person who loves them unconditionally, during key developmental years.  It doesn't even have to be a parent, if there is one loving adult in their life, to validate them, listen to them and gently guide them, it's enough. Obviously, she didn't have this, and so grew up to become the broken person she is. Often, people get broken not because of what happens to us, but what doesn't happen, when we need it. If our needs are not met as children, we grow into emotionally and psychologically deformed adults. I'm writing from experience here, not that I would ever consider killing anyone, but I understand her actions. If she's an evil monster, it's because she was formed that way by the treatment of her parents, during a time when she was small, and helpless and vulnerable, incapable of escape.

Not to take away from your message but I honestly feel like the opposite is true. I watch A LOT of crime stories and most of the parricide (killing of ones parents) cases I have seen have been from kids who were handed everything and had great childhoods. This story reminds me of the Thomas Bart Whitaker case. Completely different childhoods but the exact same result. Lied about his education, paid someone to kill his family, his mother and brother were killed but his father survived. It really all comes down to greed. She was living with her boyfriend when her parents gave her the ultimatum to get an education or be disowned. She could’ve just stayed with her boyfriend but she wanted the money and didn’t want to taken off the life insurance policy.

My parents are indian which means they are very strict. I have faced not just emotional and verbal abuse but great amount of physical abuse. I just left home and they disown me. I wouldn’t go murder someone just leave.

Most of us don’t have picture perfect childhoods/families, we just don’t plot to kill them. Tf?

Most of us don’t have picture perfect childhoods/families, we just don’t plot to kill them. Tf?

@Meoo na i don't believe it because the underlying concepts are objectively illogical. religion takes its biggest weakness, lack of evidence (bible = story book), and turns it into its biggest strength, the blind virtue of "faith". Somehow, everyone agrees to agree and the wheels keep turning. I don't doubt Jesus was a real person, but I believe a 2000-year long game of telephone bestowed on him more power than any being above.

I wish, deep down, that God was real. I am open to the possibility should a sign present itself. I am an optimistic person, but having been a raised catholic, once my critical thinking skills started to form, the bs-meter started blinking.

the only reason most people believe it is bc some outside influence highjacked their brain chemistry from a young age and now they can't think straight and interpret the world without god as the backbone. Or, they subconsciously doubt it all, but have invested so much time and energy, it's like a sunk cost that = your life.

@Meoo people that believe in god make me sad bc they are too afraid to face death and think there's a magical man upstairs who always watching and controls their destiny. doiiiiii!!!!! c'mon everyone lets get real.

@Nibbler800  if god was real i'd agree with you

@Nibbler800  if god was real i'd agree with you

I SO AGREE. I don't wanna blame the parents but they certainly lack proper communication and love

I SO AGREE. I don't wanna blame the parents but they certainly lack proper communication and love

@Kin Sin Best Komment ! I agree with you. There are a Lot of baaaaad parents in this world (inhuman, addicted etc.) and many children do not kill their parents. I was in 2 foster familys,too. Many hugs 💜 (sorry for my bad english, greetings from germany)

Kin Sin im so sorry you went through that and i’m glad you came out okay. but everyone’s individual reactions to certain pressures and situations can help fuel already present behavioral or sympathetic problems. her parents didn’t cause any of what happened to them and i feel no sympathy for her. but they also helped fuel a fire that already existed.

Or the parents just had sociopathic traits which they passed on to their daughter through her genes, and home environment had nothing to do with it.

Or the parents just had sociopathic traits which they passed on to their daughter through her genes, and home environment had nothing to do with it.

I saw a documentary about Japanese teenage murderers that fit so well with this comment.

There's so much pressure put on them with no outlet that it drove them crazy enough to take it out on fellow students. One kid that viciously attacked a class mate and beheaded him wrote in a note that he blamed the school environment for making him that way (obviously, it's not fully the schools fault just like it wasn't the parents full fault in this case). It reminds me a lot of this.

I saw a comment earlier that was something like, "A good therapist could have prevented this." Which I believe is true. Jennifer was so ready to open up to the interrogator that I believe if she would have gotten the mental help she needed when she first started harming herself that maybe she could have just left and started a new life and way from her parents that were emotionally abusive to her. That's just speculation. She's behind bars where she deserves to be. Despite how bad her parents were to her, they didn't deserve to be shot.

She's playing the scared card.  Like many people like to do these days the VICTIM CARD is the big one.  I wish people would become stronger and take responsibility.   Or just not do stupid BS that destroys innocent peoples lives.

Well yes this girl craved acceptance from her friends and boyfriend.   If her parents cut her off her boyfriend wouldn't have any use for her.  Teenagers are still growing up learning there emotions.  She will realize one day whst she has done and feel the emptiness of the loss if her parents.  No one will care like a parent.  Failure of communication the family needs to change that.

Zach i would absolutely. possibly even more because it’s so much more difficult for men to seek help psychological help due to the social stigma of men and mental health

Zach i would absolutely. possibly even more because it’s so much more difficult for men to seek help psychological help due to the social stigma of men and mental health

Would you say that if she was a man? Doubt it.

Would you say that if she was a man? Doubt it.

Kin Sin Thank you for saying this, I have a lot of respect for you. The pity and sympathy some people have for this girl is almost pathological.

Kin Sin Thank you for saying this, I have a lot of respect for you. The pity and sympathy some people have for this girl is almost pathological.

robby oh of course, i definitely agree with that. but generally speaking the lying and the hiding things comes from the parental strictness, it’s seen time and time again with parents that are overly strict. i wasn’t necessarily talking about the plotting of the murder. was just an observation of mine !

People are born psychopathic and remorseless. I'm sure the relationship was rocky with a lot of fault on the parent's end, but you have a to have a special sort of engrained emotional deficiency to do this sort of thing to your own flesh and blood, or to think that their faults' best resolution was murder.

kristova Palenkova of course not. there is no excuse for what she did. but it also shows that a child with parents as strict as that will not learn discipline, but rather they will learn to lie and hide the truth away in order to stay out of trouble from their parents

No excuse to get them killed ... She's 24 and not a child. She should have been on her own if she didn't like it.

No excuse to get them killed ... She's 24 and not a child. She should have been on her own if she didn't like it.


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The last investigator is so good at his job, bravo.


She is this way because of her parents. She shouldn't have killed them, but even considering the fact that she did, she shouldn't lose her life over it too. They could have prevented what happened if not for their controlling, narcissistic behavior, and the damage it did to the child.


Keep coming back to this and thinking.

Actions have consequences. Sure she did a bad thing, but any “parents” who try to control and demand your child live their life the way you want, doesn’t deserve to be parents. Strict parenthood is always an open door to issues, and who knows, maybe if they let the girl live her own life and not threaten to “disown” her if she didn’t meet their strict demands, maybe things would’ve went differently. I know Vietnam’s culture is usually strict, but still.

Can’t say I side with or against Jennifer.


Ok, so please take a step back from the emotions and look at the case again. Please think about it... No human is born evil. The parents are always responsible for the development of a child... So you have to ask yourself, "what went wrong in the upbringing?!"


Like 18 minutes in she calls one of the male accomplices a “gentleman”. That would set some alarm bells off for me.

It probably did for the interrogator, too.


Do they take in to account that some body language may be a direct result of stress or another mental disorder?
I have adhd, and i know, if i was innocent, that i would be fiddling with my hands, my necklace, my hair, everything
Especially if im asked to focus on recounting certain details
Or i would be zoned out for a moment then come back and get out a bunch of details then get confused and try to fix certain mistakes
 Ut because of that i would look like a suspect?
Thats generally how i act when being questioned about something

They can be indicators but not a smoking gun. That’s why the investigation continues until there’s hard evidence or a confession. A murder case will never be swayed based on fiddling hands. I know what you’re saying though and I’d be completely the same! I can’t even call my boss sick without sounding like I’m faking it 😂


I’m not defending her by any means, but if ever there was an opportunity to see an alternate universe, I would love to know how different her life would have been if she didn’t hurt her knee. Would her success as a figure skater have been enough?

Probably success as a figure skater would not be enough. She would have had other failures; no one has a perfect life. And many, many people lose their dreams without actually setting up a false life and murdering the parents who are supporting them.

@Bruce Leeroy same here i got to know very close two girls who where into balerina and this girls def. Had problems  😟 i also had problem with them

@Bruce Leeroy same here i got to know very close two girls who where into balerina and this girls def. Had problems  😟 i also had problem with them

@Kevin Klassen It depends what that pack was. The pack that are all trying out for the winter Olympics?

@Kevin Klassen It depends what that pack was. The pack that are all trying out for the winter Olympics?

@Osiris One She'd hire them to knee cap her opponent in the winter Olympics.

@Osiris One She'd hire them to knee cap her opponent in the winter Olympics.

@TrueCrimeGuru it was a joke that went over everyone's head apparently. Home depot is the largest employer of ex olympians.

@TrueCrimeGuru it was a joke that went over everyone's head apparently. Home depot is the largest employer of ex olympians.

@Kumokun Domo She tried to kill her dad once before but the fake hitman just stole her $8500 that she stupidly gave him up front. lol

@Kumokun Domo She tried to kill her dad once before but the fake hitman just stole her $8500 that she stupidly gave him up front. lol

@‘Bout.Dat_femboi[Kromer] They told her to stop dating that drug dealer. So strict.

@‘Bout.Dat_femboi[Kromer] They told her to stop dating that drug dealer. So strict.

@King G The detective did not believe the stuff he was saying. She was 24. She did have an option of continuing her life with her drug dealer boyfriend and working in the pizza parlour and teaching piano. But her parents were going to cut off her inheritance if she didn't go back and do her high school diploma. The detective just did all that sympathising with her to try and trick her into confessing to murder.

@It's Jif not Gif Yeah the natrrator made it sound like with her figure skating career her parents wouldn't have minded her C minus average but is that true?

@Damien Was she being abused though? She was producing great  fake report cards and everything paid for by the generous allowance her parents must have given her. She was buying all the fake report cards and dipoma's and acceptance letters with her parent's money? Or her pizza job, or her piano tutoring money?

@Parmida I wonder why so many serial killers were told that their mothers were their sisters and their grandma was their mother You wouldn't think that would be such a big deal but it was back in the day when stuff like that was a big deal.

@Yes She looked pretty happy and talented on the ice.

@Yes She looked pretty happy and talented on the ice.

@PenskePC23 It was a pizza parlour career at Mario's actually. That was her job along with tutoring kids in piano on the side and living off drug dealer money from boyfriend but her parents said "stop all that bullshit or we cut off your inheritance come back and get your high school diploma you can live rent free with us. But she didn't like any of those options.

@tokyworld Doctors just told her not to do it though. She looked like she was pretty talented.

@tokyworld Doctors just told her not to do it though. She looked like she was pretty talented.

@clive ramsbotty Those clips of her skating looked pretty amazing. She appeared to be in line for the winter olympics.  The doctors told her she couldn't compete any more. I don't think that was BS.

@smileandlaughs Did you see the clips of her on the ice she was really exceptional and headed for the Olympics. I don't think you can call it a bullshit excuse.

Henrique The problem is not solely genetic. Not by any means. While it’s speculated that genes play a role, environment also plays just as much of not a potentially greater role. Your conclusion doesn’t even necessarily point to genetics. While yes the child gets their genes from the parent, even if the problem was 100% environmental, you would still the issue be concurrent within family generations. As a child raised in a bad environment will go on to raise children in a bad environment. This is actually the current model of abuse, as the science to claim that all abuse and negative behaviors stem from genetics, that science simply does not exist. We do however know that damaged people will often damage their offspring and create cycles of abuse. This is why we often see abuse in areas and places where people are likely to be or get damaged. Such as poverty being a large factor or dangerous environments. Due to the nature of biology and life, most of us are identical. Yes there are genetic factors that play into our behavior. Yes there are ways in which we are all different and prone to certain on a biological basis alone. But at the same time life is a self replicating cycle. We are 99.9999999999999% the same. The biggest differences between humans will never be genetic as those mirror each other in almost all regards. Our experiences however are the greatest variable. Foster children are a great example. They’re a consistently at risk group for a number of psychological problems and we know it directly stems from their environment.

Yes there are people who come from healthy households who turn out bad. But that doesn’t change the fact that a majority of bad people come from bad environments. Poverty is like one of the major predictors for crime. Showing us that human behavior is largely born of circumstance. Anyone trying to tell you otherwise is just basing their world view on speculative science, which frankly I don’t agree with as it’s often use to push eugenics and fascist rhetoric. But tbh it’s almost pseudoscience at this point and contradictory to what we already know about human behavior.

That’s not to say genetics play no role. But it’s apparent that the role they play is pretty submissive to the role that environment plays. Again back to poverty as it’s a good example. Poor people aren’t genetically inferior, yet theyre much more likely to have lower intelligence or violent children. This is because with poverty comes worse environments.

You underestimate environment and the role it plays on the human psyche. I suggest looking at trauma and ptsd and seeing how single events can completely change how the human mind works

@CrunchyWolf no, nah, nope

The answer to your proposal is very simple, the fact that most of them come from troubled backgrounds and childhoods is because the problem is genetic.

That troubled background and childhood was caused mostly by whom? the parents, and who the child gets their genes from? yeah...

People keep trying and trying to make themselves believe that the environment is this absolute most potent conditioner of all, that we are all born completely and exactly equal and then get molded from that, only that's not the case at all.

Case in point, you have many people who come from perfectly normal families and lives, never wanted for anything, parents were great, yet turn out to be the worst of scum, or the other way around, people that come from the worst possible background, extreme poverty, parents were drug addicts, suffered abuse, yet turn out to be fantastic people.

Were the environment that absolute potency of a conditioner those cases would be utterly impossible; Yet again, the answer is very simple, some recessive genetics found it's way out, for good or bad.

Is the environment a factor? of course; Is it enough of a factor to generate a monster such as this? no, it isn't.

@M K I do know names but i would be here all night to be fair! I want to make it clear i do not think Jennifer Pan is necessarily psychopathic. The difference is psychopaths tend to engage in more instrumental aggression-or predatory aggression-whereas others may be violent or aggressive but usually it's a more reactive aggression. With psychopathy it is much more than criminality or violence,  it shapes every facet of their lives. Some people are very bad people but can at least be capable of some empathy, and be less impulsive.

@M K I have to politely disagree, they have mountains of data and a lot of it coming from the families themselves. Also thinking a psychopath would need provoking is astonishing! Most criminals do have problematic backgrounds, but there are many, cases i have looked at where there were no significant stressors to at least predict a negative and criminal course of action. In any case a horrible case, but i do like this channel very much. The psychology of criminal behaviour is fascinating.

King G beautifully put. it’s very sad the way some children are forced via methods of over control fear and punishment (sometimes even overt physical abuse) to submit to expectation of caregivers. It’s no wonder they grow up as adults lying disrespecting others feelings, opinions, hiding themselves and unable to trust other humans. I don’t blame the parents because I don’t think that they know any better they are just unconsciously repeating how they were parented 9/10 times. I don’t pretend t know the answer but the priority in criminology surely should be given too early intervention and treatment programmes for children and families affected the worst by this. I say that because we are all a work in progress in terms of learning to respect each other and emotional intelligence etc.

arophax I wish you the very best in finding your voice in this world and learning to trust your self :)

arophax I wish you the very best in finding your voice in this world and learning to trust your self :)

@clive ramsbotty She said herself that she was 'average' and in the middle of the pack. Not a great athlete.

@clive ramsbotty She said herself that she was 'average' and in the middle of the pack. Not a great athlete.

Hurting the knee is just another bs  she made up to justify what she does. Realistically people who are determined wi'll find another path in life to succeed.

@Henrique False, no human is "born" a psychopath, it is something that is developed

@Henrique False, no human is "born" a psychopath, it is something that is developed

Ah makes me think of a story about this failed artist

Ah makes me think of a story about this failed artist

@Fiona Battrum They've learned it somewhere - usually from home. Toddlers will test lying and we teach them not to. But when they daily expeirence lies....
I say you can't lie to your children, as they read your body language and see right through you!
And a lot of parents work with "do as I TELL you, not as I do". It's no good, they learn from copying the grown ups.
Oh boy, have I been embarresed, when my mother came out of my mouth and my mouth came out of my kids...

@M K any books or articles that speak about this issue that way?

@M K any books or articles that speak about this issue that way?

Fiona Battrum parents shape their children in ways not known by them

Fiona Battrum parents shape their children in ways not known by them

Henrique not really, her parents were irrationally strict. Good loving parents wouldn't have been killed because she wouldn't have to live so strictly and her entire life she was "asian strict parented" so who knows

Being an Olympic winner is still rare. Sad part was if you concentrate so much on athletic you probably let the academic part slide for years

Being an Olympic winner is still rare. Sad part was if you concentrate so much on athletic you probably let the academic part slide for years

her parents tbh sealed their own fate, by being dummy strict

her parents tbh sealed their own fate, by being dummy strict

Probably not. She said she was in the "middle of the pack" with figure skating so she probably wouldn't have competed in any major competition, would've had to get a normal career anyways.

@King G I agree. And hey, I like the way you articulated this.

@King G I agree. And hey, I like the way you articulated this.

@BlackOlive Records. and hoping that coming across your comment, then me replying, have made preferrable interferences to our lives which'll come evident sometime in the future. 😇

Or if she didn't have authoritarian, racist parents

Or if she didn't have authoritarian, racist parents

@M K I was beginning to think brains weren't gonna be included in this comment section so thank you. I just dont like the way she's gotten casted on this video as a psychopath when she in fact was trying to process everything that happened for the better noticable not just for herself but her parents who even if she didnt agree with all the time she loved. The detective was right about one thing for sure, she made a mistake and after watching this I think she knows that and after serving time she'll never forget it. I just hope and pray god looks over these cases and all like it

@Fiona Battrum people naturally will bend the truth once an environment begins to disregard their genuine thoughts and emotions. Basically being put in a corner. You should always take the time to listen and take in your child's feelings and be ready to reassure and support and uplift them and show them a light to the world.

@Henrique a human is born a human with human behaviors such as murder she wouldn't be the first to kill or even have the thought. But she CHOSE to act. You dont have to be a psychopath to make the wrong choice. But you do have to be young sheltered and resentful to put a hit on your parents. Or are there people out here doing that cause they bored ?

@M K You are right but some people are just born wired wrong, some of the most terrifying cases of even serial rape and murder were individuals that were born psychopaths. No abuse, neglect, trauma etc.

@Konstanty It's a symptom of your thickness.

@Konstanty It's a symptom of your thickness.

@Good Yeoman I don't understand what you mean by thick.

@Good Yeoman I don't understand what you mean by thick.

I feel like what she did was reasonable.

I feel like what she did was reasonable.

@Henrique imagine if Hitler was accepted into art school, we would be talking about Hitler the painter rather than Hitler the dictator. Life is filled with mystery sometimes.

Enough for her but not enough for her parents... trust me. I'm first generation Asian immigrant, they're never satisfied and rarely give any compliments

Henrique Actually most of them are made. This evident by the fact that most of them come from troubled backgrounds and childhoods

Henrique Actually most of them are made. This evident by the fact that most of them come from troubled backgrounds and childhoods

Breaking her knee set up a chaine of events that lead us all to this video and this comment your reading right now

Breaking her knee set up a chaine of events that lead us all to this video and this comment your reading right now

@tokyworld this may be true for most sports, but for figure skating one ankle injury can cost your your career.

@tokyworld this may be true for most sports, but for figure skating one ankle injury can cost your your career.

@A piece of chocolate YouTube comments are weird so I am not sure if this is in reply to me or the OP above but when i was talking about Ice Skating being taken away I more meant it being an issue because it was an outlet that got her parents off her back because it was something she could point to that she was good at and escape a bit of the criticism, and once she lost that as a path she fell back into the heavy criticism and abuse because she no longer had something to keep them satisfied and at bay.

In reality yes the best thing would be for her to not have that fucked up childhood and unrealistic life expectations on her but alas. Tragic all around.

Most figure skaters and other professionals are seriously effed in the head! I dated a balirina and she was crazy!

Most figure skaters and other professionals are seriously effed in the head! I dated a balirina and she was crazy!

i think it has less to do with the ice skating and more with her parents. i personally wonder how she would have turned out if she had a normal childhood and her parents weren’t so authoritative and controlling. not saying they deserved to be murdered, absolutely not. but the way you raise your children definitely plays a huge role in how their mental state turns out.

Yeah I agree, this level of stress and pressure from their parents expectations is common in a lot of my asian friends lives and it's really sad to see how much they suffer from it. It does not make what she did okay in any way what so ever and she belongs behind bars for the rest of her life, but I definitely don't know how I would manage under that level of stress and scrutiny all my life and then the one thing I am actually good at and confident in is taken away by some freak accident and then the boyfriend and his supportive family being taken away and all the hiding and shame while being expected to be perfect and more than you can be.

You can really see the steps that slowly led to this happening and it's incredibly tragic in a lot of ways.

Hanging out with drug dealers and criminals is never going to lead to the good life.

Hanging out with drug dealers and criminals is never going to lead to the good life.

Henrique i totally disagree not many ppl are born psychopaths or killers. environment has just as much if not more influence on personality and mental disorders. i bet if she had had different parents, the results woulda been different. not to say it is entirely their fault but they did contribute to the tragic outcome.

Plot twist....what if she hurt her own knee in an attempt to escape a career she didn't really want but her parents demanded of her.

Plot twist....what if she hurt her own knee in an attempt to escape a career she didn't really want but her parents demanded of her.

Additionally if she didn't have emotionally and psychologically abusive parents too. I do have a bit of sympathy for her.

Additionally if she didn't have emotionally and psychologically abusive parents too. I do have a bit of sympathy for her.

@clive ramsbotty career ending injuries still exist.

@clive ramsbotty career ending injuries still exist.

Yeah that illustrious Home Depot career would of certainly changed everything.

Yeah that illustrious Home Depot career would of certainly changed everything.

Maria K as I suspected. I can imagine that it would be the only “safe “ option in some cases. The child must remain hidden behind lies for protection. Whilst I completely appreciate the inconceivable tragedy of innocent loss of life It doesn’t seem just that society then labels individuals who have been warped by an upbringing that failed them as personality disordered or similar or holds them in hatred and contempt for problems they have as adults caused through no fault of their own.

if she had talent to make it to the olympics. whe would've been a depressed figure skater. Her problem was her attitude not a lack of talent in academia.

@clive ramsbotty this. athletes can come back from a torn knee ligament. Not easy but not impossible. If she was a olympian contender.

@clive ramsbotty this. athletes can come back from a torn knee ligament. Not easy but not impossible. If she was a olympian contender.

I think the reasons why children learn to lie from a young age should be researched more.

I think the reasons why children learn to lie from a young age should be researched more.

'i hurt my knee' is the excuse the world over for failed athletes that just weren't good enough

'i hurt my knee' is the excuse the world over for failed athletes that just weren't good enough

Yeah, it would've probably been "fine" for a longer time, but eventually someone or something would get in  its way and it would have resorted to similar tactics to solve the problem, a psychopath is born a psychopath, nothing that can be done.


At least 3 murders I know of which started with a child faking results, college attendance and/or jobs. If you are young and reading this, just don't do it. This is where it often leads to.


Not sure why but I feel sorry for her. Every tiger parents needs to watch this


It is scary to think about how easy she could have gotten away with this if she had just kept quiet.

@Xynth even if she didn't say anything remember her father gave a statement

@Toast4tw and the dad didnt die and could testify

@mia the defense would this call brain damage or hallucination

nah her dad wouldve woke up and mentioned when she was walking around and talking with the robbers

The thing all of you people seem to be missing here is that she could have just pretended to be in shock and unwilling to recount the details.

And if they investigated the dad's story after he recovered, and they did suspect her to some degree, her defense could have easily spun it in her favor, as the narrator of the video even mentions.

@lexi allfrey her dad said she talked with the robbers like they were her friends, even if she cuts her tongue to get rid of her ability to speak she would've gotten caught.

You can't. Thats why people work very hard to come up with a foolproof alibi.

I’m sure the police would’ve been on her back to talk, it would be suspicious if she stayed quiet

Not gonna happen. Her dad's confession plus those burner phones

@Toast4tw they probably wouldnt have found the phones without suspecting her

@Xynth why would she stay quiet if she was brought in as a witness? That will just make her look way more guilty lol.

She wasn't a suspect rather a witness, so if she stayed silent they would have been alerted to her odd behavior as an innocent witness would just tell the truth and leave.

Definitely isn't academically gifted haha

@Sorian Rapsonbut when ur the only person able to recall anything  after ur house is robbed, mom killed, and dad put into a coma... and u never officially give a statement to police or talk to them at all... you dont think anybody would bat an eyebrow at that?

@Sorian Rapson LOL you must be one of those dudes who thinks he can ace an interrogation. Her story was weak from the start and it's easy to see right through her when you put all the background info and evidence together. The 2nd interview wasn't to convince the detectives, they knew she was guilty from the get go, but to have solid evidence for court. Even if she managed to passed the 2nd test by some miracle there was alot of evidence against her from the scene and her background with her parents.

@ant I dont hell alot of people would denied talking because of what happened recalling it all could bring up trauma alot if people wouldn't be comfortable enough with it

She should of just denied the second interview her story was at first solid tho it did conflict with her father's but her father's testimony would have a good chance of being thrown out

@여자그냥 it's not because they're good liars it's usually when they get lucky and score rookie detectives or someone handling the case Fs up

@Xynth you must be really dumb to underestimate the experience detectives have, they would have suspected her because there are too many f ups from her and the rest of the suspecs, even before her interrogation.

So many people get away with murder its scary

@lexi allfrey but i feel like she would have had to talk abt it someday. refusing to speak abt the situation EVER would raise some suspicion dont u agree?

Literally, she voluntarily said she would talk about it. If only she would have just said it was too much for her to talk about, she would be free💀

@Xynth Yeah it was pretty dumb over all. But her father also said she walked through the house and talked to the guys on a friendly basis so that would've raised suspicion for sure even if she claimed he has brain damage or w/e.

@Toast4tw I didn't get to that part before I typed my comment, so that would have likely damned her anyway.

But on the other hand, they may not have looked for these things if they didn't suspect her in the first place, which they only did because she decided to speak and make up a bad story.

Well, they did find those burner phones and the 3 guys left DNA evidence at the scene so I feel like they probably would've been suspicious of her even if she had put on a better performance


These videos are hard to watch without having second hand embarrassment


I don't understand why so many people in this comment section just blame everything on the girl (Jennifer) and then pity the parents saying things like she (Jennifer) was a psychopath, that she could have left any moment and things like this.

But here is the thing as a mixed race person knowing a lot on Asian people mindset, the pressure they put on their kids is insane that is why there are so many suicides by so many teens and young adults.

Also Jennifer said that if she wanted to she could have left her parentes home and went on with her life but I don't know if you know so I am going to tell you that when Asian parents gives you that ultimatum its often not what it sounds like.

No you can not always leave when you want to because the expected answer is often embedded into the child all through his life (always family comes first). In some cases it's almost like you don't have the rights to choose otherwise.

Anyways everything that I have said is very very confusing and was not properly explained but all I wanted to say is that the psychological trauma caused by a set mentality runs deeper than what most people think.

And don't think I defend her actions in anyway because I don't those actions was unjustifiable and I believe that she got what she deserved for it.

She really did it because she wanted to get a piece of a 500k life insurance payout. That's why the Slayer Rule exists. They don't talk about it in this video as I'm presuming they wanted to highlight the effects of their parenting style, but that money is what really motivated this murder and also how they were able to get the friends involved as she promised them 10k from said inheritance


You should cover the court room part as well this is gold.


‘He drives a Mercedes and he loves that baby’<br>Jesus. If your actually loved your parents and this happened can you imagine saying that?

‘He drives a Mercedes and he loves that baby’
Jesus. If your actually loved your parents and this happened can you imagine saying that?


I can't help but think this lady has a special place in hell reserved just for her. "Honor thy father and thy mother. "

And the false bible swearing is pure despicable as well.


The interrogation is so intense that I feel like I’m being interrogated and I felt so uneasy


Maybe she could just play along as the victim during the robbery so she doesn't have to fake the story and her dad wouldn't see her talking to the “gentlemen” 🤷🏻♀


Investigator: So none of the things you say to me was a lie
Jennifer: yes

Everything she said was in fact a lie


Question: If someone isn't under arrest, do they not need to be Mirandized? So even though you're questioning them as a suspect (while they don't know they're a suspect), potentially using anything they say against them in a court of law, and they haven't been told they have the right to remain silent or get a lawyer, they can still be questioned, recorded, and that information can be used in a trial?

(I'm from Australia so am not entirely familiar with the USA laws on this, thanks).

I'm in the US and don't know 🤔 that's interesting to think about


The hell?!?! Why are people here trying to reason out that it wasn’t completely her fault?? She had a CHOICE!! She was happy with her boyfriend. She said she felt LOVED when she was living with her boyfriend’s parents. Her boyfriend’s parents accepted their relationship. So why didn’t she continued with living with them?? She was given a choice that she could either live with her boyfriend but her parents will disown her and won’t give her money OR she can come back with them but had to continue her studies and breakup with her boyfriend. If I was in her shoes I would’ve OBVIOUSLY choose the former. Because I was happy with my boyfriend and his parents. But the sole reason she killed her parents were NOT because they mentally and emotionally abused her BUT because they refused to give her money and at the same time let her do whatever she wants to. Yes, I understand that her upbringing was not good. My dad is in army and I’m an Indian. My parents are strict af. So I understand what she had gone through. But the actual reason is not because of the feud between her and her parents but that she was greedy.


Idk why but watching this is scarier than watching horror, I don't think I might sleep well tonight


Things she did wrong
-She went too in detail and talked too much
-She didnt seem to be grieving enough
-She never got mad that he was asking so many questions

@lee zee no problem, just gotta be careful these days. There are scammers going around posing as Mr Beast, look it up.

@BillyBrontosaur yea I checked this morning you are right my bad

@Rick Ryan Also didn't realise but the dad survived so I doubt there was much hope for her lasting this case. Either way from what I can see her parents weren't the best and I know people with such parents I'm not surprised she done what she did.

@Alissa Brokenicky yo u up to something?

@Alissa Brokenicky yo u up to something?

Actually getting angry is an omission. You get angry because you dont want to be questioned. When a non guilty gets questioned and is close to the victim they actually answer as much as they can for 2 reasons 1 to clear their name and move the case to people that actually need to be questioned and 2 because they know that everything they can offer will be one step closer to getting justice for their loved one(victim). I know I would. I'll be, ask all you need because I have a clear conscience and because I want you to get the people responsible for this.

@Lesly Alvarez he was using a hypothetical to make his point clear. He wasn’t suggesting that the concert should have been, or even could have been her alibi.

@Rowan Melton dude, I totally get what you’re saying lol. You’re right. If someone is creating an alibi with a story, it only makes sense to actively act out that alibi. It’s crazy that she planned this whole thing out but failed to have a better answer (alibi) for where she was and why she wasn’t harmed.

Thing she did wrong: She talked.
"you are here volountarily and you don't have to speak to us"
Proceeds to talk to them xD
Should have kept her mouth shut and she'd be free right now lol

@hello there right.... they had no evidence...., she literally went there and told them she did this.... smh....

@Rick Ryan Tbf 99.99% of people arent smart enough to do that. Its damn near impossible to get away with crimes like this in the modern day.

@Rowan Melton look she doesn’t seem smart enough to be able to hold up against sustained scrutiny,even if she wasn’t present at the house they’d know from friends/brother she was under a 9pm curfew and the one night she broke curfew her parents get attacked ? They’d be even more suspicious.

@I can't think of a username but then comes her dad so no matter what she said her dad was still there

I wouldn’t even be able to talk if my mom died

I wouldn’t even be able to talk if my mom died

@Tuzi Kitty Cat yea wtf was that lmao?!!

@Tuzi Kitty Cat yea wtf was that lmao?!!

things she did wrong<br>- Killed her family

things she did wrong
- Killed her family

@Rowan Melton based on her life story she more than likely would of never been able to attend a concert she had to be home by 9:00pm but that could work out in other cases

@hello there Yeah lol, that's what I was thinking...

@hello there Yeah lol, that's what I was thinking...

@Rick Ryan She is smart, but she isn't wise.  Too much maths, not enough common sense.

The first she should have been very frantic and don't go into much details.
Second times she should have went in with a convincing story but not way too detailed. Just detailed enough.
These dumb criminals makes me sigh.

Honestly, she should've just not testified at all. She didn't HAVE to.

@Resolve Yeetlord You misunderstood what I'm saying. I'm saying you make up an alibi, and you actually follow the alibi for real. Let's just say your alibi is that you went to a concert, you plan the hit for that night, and then you actually go to the concert. The way she went around this is so sloppy.

@Rick Ryan She planned this though. She should have come up with a well made lie, infact, she should've made a real alibi, which involved her not even being in the house. When you plan out the whole event, why even lie about it, stage it, and tell the truth of how it was staged

@Gus Pauline At least some stlll have common sence...

@Gus Pauline At least some stlll have common sence...

Because it was her first therapy in 24 years

Because it was her first therapy in 24 years

✍✍don’t go into too much detail or talk to much ✍✍seem grieving enough✍✍get mad at him for asking too many questions✍✍

@Bob Jamaica Detectives knew that the intruders were in the house for 18 minutes, that's a lot of time for them to pick holes in her lie. Either way they knew she was guilty once they unlocked the burner phones and had a record of all the texts she sent  to her drug dealer boyfriend

I'll add one more. 19:40 she need to ask that question non stop and refuse to answer anymore questions until the detective tells her what happens to her now.

@I can't think of a username hey mr beast love your vids!

@I can't think of a username hey mr beast love your vids!

I think what she did wrong is that she hired people to kill her parents

1. she went there and told her story.

noone forced her and she did that voluntarily. had she never talked and just gotten a lawyer later as it is her right, noone would have found out probably

You forgot one:
-having her own parents killed

Good things she slipped.
Talking too much is something she did that ends up working for the rest of us. For life's sake, I'll take a Freudian slip and a poor actress.

@Anna thinking you cant get angry is what makes you a sussy baka

I got mugged once and the guy was super close into my face for some 10-15 minutes (Thankfully he was unarmed, probable meth user) but I couldn't even remember the guy's hair colour or coat colour. As soon as I got home I wrote down everything I remembered, I remembered the events although unsure which order they occured in but that stress made me forget so many basic descriptors of the guy. Couldn't even describe the hair style, just that he had awful smelling breath.

But if she gets mad for being asked so many questions, they’ll think she was sus, no?

@Unknown person 16:33 I literally cringed so hard when she did that

-She dated a criminal
-She plotted the death of her parents
-She didn't get good enough at acting

@Rick Ryan yep she should have just stayed quiet and claimed she doesn’t remember anything due to stress

@Tuzi Kitty Cat what time stamp for that

@Tuzi Kitty Cat what time stamp for that

Lmao not that easy to fabricate a lie and then have every little detail come under scrutiny by experienced interrogators, from these interviews she simply isn’t that smart

And because she talked too much with detail, she had hard time remembering all the details of the bs she told and ended up in a trap.

Don’t forget that she mocked her dad’s wails of pains.

Don’t forget that she mocked her dad’s wails of pains.


What they claim is signs of lying. Holding both hands in front of you ect. I would be screwed telling the truth. Cause I'm nervous 24/7 and bad anxiety. I do that all the time.  Even at work talking to anyone

Not really, they first need to establish a baseline that separates normal behavior and abnormal behavior. If you always hold both hands talking to anyone then that’s your baseline, this can no longer be used as a flag


Classic story of consequences. One negative leads to another.


this is the most cold blooded pathological liar suspect that i have ever witness.


Bruh she actually spent her entire life locked up 😂 from her parents house to jail rip.


Soooo, your grades didn’t meet “expectations,” but you still thought you were smarter than the investigators?

Good plan.


Best sales training ever!!!!<br>And yes, the brainy Asian stereotype trope thing was destroyed in my head when I saw a Asian crackhead in Stockton, Ca. ..I think she was Korean..not sure tho.

Best sales training ever!!!!
And yes, the brainy Asian stereotype trope thing was destroyed in my head when I saw a Asian crackhead in Stockton, Ca. ..I think she was Korean..not sure tho.


The verbal precision of this narrator is insane


all she had to do was just not talk and it would have been so hard to convict her.


I wish no any criminal or a bad minded sociopath or a psychopath ever find this channel .


32:50 "i turned the volume on max" makes sense actually, "i couldn't hear my mom yelling that much the tv was on an the phone was on a call"


“The gentleman” then murdered my mother. Nothing suspicious about that.


my dad was a vice detective for 15 years, and he always said "giving too many details is suspicious". he'd say that innocent people said "i don't know" or "i don't remember" much more often than guilty people.

because innocent people aren't trying to hide something. they can say "i don't know" without being afraid, because they know they didn't do anything wrong.

in fact, innocent people often get annoyed or frustrated when the interviewer asks for small details. they'll be like "i don't know!! do you expect me to remember the color of the guy's shoes? he was pointing a gun at my parents, god dammit!!"

anger is often an indicator of innocence. when you're innocent, you don't care whether the cop likes you or not. you aren't appealing to anyone's sense of sympathy. you don't have to.

At this point, anything can be faked really.

@Enrico Rodrigués-Castró Anger is truth raging through the pores. You are exactly 100% wrong.

Agreed...they're trying to make everything in their stories connect perfectly, when life doesn't actually work that way.

the thing is, as some of the first commenters said, this isn't necessarily true for all cops. Anger at being questioned is often used as a "sign" of guilt, and saying "i don't know" can be construed as a person dodging questions. if a cop, lawyer, judge etc has something against you, it's just as easy to use those behaviors against you rather than it proving your innocence. remember to never talk to the police without your lawyer present – Miranda rights were made for a reason.

I'm just thinking about what it must have been like to be a teen with a vice detective as a father...

There are a lot of people in the comments backing up the girl and saying that the parents deserved it are probably a murderer/psycho . The only reason why people see it as acceptable and think that the parents deserved it is because the killer is a women/girl. If the genders are reversed, people would have different reaction

Yeah.. Respectfully. All that sounds good but I've learn it doesn't matter how you behave in an interrogation, once someone believes your guilty every action you make from that point forward is used to justify their opinion. GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. WHITE OR BLACK (MORE SO BLACKS BUT COPS REAL COPS DONT CARE they just wanna solve the case)

Remembering this for my divorce to a narcissist.  Thanks!

Interesting thanks for the tips my boy 😈

I remember watching a short video about this, it's such an interesting concept

@Riley I hear you, but I reckon that you are in the minority. It totally makes sense for most innocent people to not remember that many details, hence saying "dont know/dont remember" more often than guilty ones. Plus I assume that trained professionals can detect more often than not when a person is being truthful or dishonest, when it seems like they're giving too many details.

Another thing that worked against her is her intelligence. It's easier to crack intelligent people because they can be reasoned with. Much harder interviewing dumb people, because they have no imagination and can easily stick with denying everything.

@Josie Leigh thats true. I was robbed back in my country, the guy was seating beside me on the jeepney while he pointed a knife on the side of my waist... I clearly remember his face on that time because i looked at him and before he left, tried to kiss me. But when i was asked, i don't remember anymore because i was crying a lot and shaking... trauma makes you forget most of the details... even now trying to remember the face but still can't.

this doesn't apply to everyone though. i, for one, am the type to be very detailed when i'm asked or accused of something i didn't do because i'd like to cooperate as much as i can since i know in my heart that i didn't do anything.

In some countries like mine, the fact you're innocent may not help you in any way. Neither lawyer assigned to you - cause he works with bribed police

Exactly .!! That’s what I said she’s giving WAYYYY too many details she’s going to have to remember later that’s never a good idea . When on doubt say less listen more and saying I don’t know is fine your mind could  have been occupied with other things other than what they are asking …every question doesn’t need a definite answer part of their job is figuring out what happened let them and you better pray they don’t  . . And remember stay in character until you get home damnit and if you don’t feel like crying you can show grief in other ways don’t be trying to force out tears in front of the investigator like he doesn’t notice lol . 😭

A group of guys tried to car jack me while I was stopped at a stoplight on the way to my brothers house. Ran the red to get away, and within ten minutes I gave a statement to the cops. By that point the only things I could remember were the specific clothing of the guy standing closest to my car, size of the gun he was holding, and how many guys there were. By the time I got home an hour later, I could barely remember what happened besides the gun I saw and the color shirt I saw it held up against. Sat on the floor of the shower five hours later and it felt like I could see my memories slipping away.<br>I got mad with the detective who followed up with me in the weeks and months to come as he kept pushing for hyper detailed statements when I couldn't have even repeated my first statement to the same detail for the life of me. I've been feeling bad about snapping at him now that a few years have passed, sort of glad to hear that it's not abnormal. I'd read research about how the brain represses memories associated with trauma, but watching it happen in real time to myself was insane and a bit scary.

A group of guys tried to car jack me while I was stopped at a stoplight on the way to my brothers house. Ran the red to get away, and within ten minutes I gave a statement to the cops. By that point the only things I could remember were the specific clothing of the guy standing closest to my car, size of the gun he was holding, and how many guys there were. By the time I got home an hour later, I could barely remember what happened besides the gun I saw and the color shirt I saw it held up against. Sat on the floor of the shower five hours later and it felt like I could see my memories slipping away.
I got mad with the detective who followed up with me in the weeks and months to come as he kept pushing for hyper detailed statements when I couldn't have even repeated my first statement to the same detail for the life of me. I've been feeling bad about snapping at him now that a few years have passed, sort of glad to hear that it's not abnormal. I'd read research about how the brain represses memories associated with trauma, but watching it happen in real time to myself was insane and a bit scary.

Some people are naturally intimidated by police and therefore are unlikely to show anger so this doesnt make sense 100% of the time.

I hear what you're saying but at the same time, it's taught that anger is a admission of guilt. It's no true way for anyone to be, really. Talk to much, guilty. Talk a little. Guilty. Get angry. Guilty. Don't get angry. Guilty. This is the same way false convictions are done.


Those investigators, are really good manipulators.


with her hands tied and shoulder tied to the banister, it would be surprising that their are no marks or bruising on her shoulders and wrists.


i cried when hearing the dad scream for help during the call


i see that turning interrogations into therapy sessions is canadian cops' MO


Math Teacher: "Jennifer sold twice as much pears in the afternoon than in the morning. If she sold 360 kilograms of pears that day, how many kilograms did she sell in the morning and how many in the afternoon? Please show how you got Jennifer's solution."

Me: (this video)


It's crazy to me how deep her lies went. She faked a high school diploma, two college acceptances, a college diploma, would leave the house all day to look like she was in class, faked a job, would watch hours of videos and take notes to make it look like classwork....

I feel like this speaks a lot on the family dynamic. Her parents were constantly breathing down her neck, but there was no real communication there. If I so much lied about where I went for a few hours after school, my mother would call me out on it. To this day, I feel extremely uncomfortable just telling a small lie. I can't even imagine what it would feel like to be buried this far in it.

Honestly I had a sister like this (she is a lot older than me and moved away and kinda disowned because of her actions) it sucks hearing so many lies and someone so deeply buried in them that it takes over themselves and they start to believe those lies. I am the same way where I will get eaten up by a small white lie no matter what it is.

A dude in Vaughan did the same thing. Told his parents he was going to university to be a doctor, but was actually going to the mall everyday, for years. Ended up killing his whole family. LOL !!! His parents were hardcore Muslims, and he was atheist. He wasn't having that crap.

@Ashley Some parents are so focussed on the expectations of their child, that they are blind to petty lies.

Yeah difference is she doesnt feel bad when she lies thats why you cant comprehend it

a lot of parents think automatically that making your kids good students equals making them good people. wrong. things like empathy and honesty don’t just come naturally with the discipline of knowing how to study. you need a strong bond with your kid to teach them those values, and you won’t build one by constantly berating them and comparing them to others. honestly it broke my heart a little when the narrator said many people speculate the detective was the first person to ever ask her about her own hopes and that she had never opened up to an adult before.

I'd lie to my parents and skip work for a day and just go out to a movie sometimes to get some space. My parents never approved of me going out with friends as a teenager and would listen in on the phone conversations I had with them. It was drowned upon in my house to have or talk to any male friends. All of this slowly distanced me from all my friends from school and college to the point where I have no social life. My curfew even as a grown woman with a job is 8PM and I need to explain why I'm late from work when I ended up working overtime. My brother did not have the same restrictions placed on him ever. And now my parents think I'm a loner who needs to work on her social skills. It has definitely caused depression and serious trust issues which has ruined several relationships for me. Of course none of this justifies murder, but I feel like I can understand the isolation

I’d lie as a reflex to not agitate my parents tbh. They used to get angry with me as a kid for small things and used threatening tones in getting an answer out of me so I’d lie instead. I think I’m getting good at telling the truth to them these days although there’s still that nagging sensation where I feel like I should still lie.

@Luke Beise They bought the clothes they wanted me to wear not what I wanted from an early age into my teens. Same with hairstyles, she chose my hairstyles. It was very difficult to even have a friend. If my parents didn't like a person for whatever oddball reason, I wasn't allowed to talk with them. I wasn't allowed to step foot out of our backyard. One of them would be standing at the window watching me ALL the time. It felt more like a prison than a home.
I became extremely withdrawn scared to speak to anyone. My time in High School felt as though I was on the inside looking out. Like watching a movie play out. I didn't have a part. I was sitting in the audience. Not one single boy asked me to prom. I asked to attend the prom anyway but they flat out refused to let me go. They said I had no business going. The High School was only a few blocks from my prison. I could hear the students laughing and shouting the sound of car horns through my open bedroom window. I laid in bed crying my eyes out listening. I wanted to be part of that so badly.
I dared not argue with either one of them, I learned that from a very early age. My dad was the punisher. He used belts and homemade paddles with holes drilled in them to spank me. Always bare bottom. Punished for not conforming so that made me a bad girl in their eyes.
I always had the will of flight in my heart. I knew I wanted to get away from them. When I did it was so liberating. I'm not totally healed from emotional and physical scars. I'm lacking in social skills and still somewhat withdrawn but I'm getting better. I know this is my life now and I'm the one in control.

felt the same way as u until i started smoking weed, now all i do is lie

@Anna Hall I'm sorry to hear that, what kind of authoritarian?

My parents were authoritarian. We never developed a bond at all. When I turned 18 I simply packed my bags and moved out. I stayed with my cousin and her parents who lived out of state. I got a job and a year later I rented an apartment. It felt good to be free from their controlling reins. I could breathe living my life on my terms.

@C E No, not at all. They did not deserve to die by any means. But the family dynamic was strange-- she had a 9:00 curfew at age 26. They obviously just wanted the best for her, but we can still talk about the family dynamic w/o victim blaming.

@Ashley The best liars are scott free....

@January no, it absolutely doesn't. what she did was deplorable. i just think it's crazy how she was able to lie to her parents about so much when, in these interrogations, she's clearly not the best liar.

I'm a naturally honest person too, and feel very uncomfortable lying, even those socially acceptable lies. But as a child, I learned to lie to my parents, because there was no possibility of honest communication, or respect for my genuine needs. I was seen as an extension of them, with no valid needs of my own. So I learned how to lie convincingly  in order to be able to meet some of my own needs...not an ideal situation, but kids generally do what they have to, in order to survive.


i feel sorry for any child who grows up with horrible controlling parents, and i feel like the parents got what they created. But that fact that she wanted to be there during this and not be out of the house says a lot.


I'm sure she's guilty, but one issue I have with this is the police saying, "If you've been truthful, you have nothing to fear". That isn't really true. The amount of people who have been proven to be innocent after the fact proves it's not true. Edit, yes, I know this is a tactic. My point is, it’s not true, never believe it no matter who is saying it. People, including police, are a lot worse at knowing If people are guilty or not. The tactics they use create false confessions and bad convictions.

@B33st1ng I always get more scared if I get that said to me. When I did oral examination and the examiner ask question and told me not to be nervous or scared I keep getting nervous.

One time I'm a witness for class disturbance, like someone broke something and I got asked if I see something and i almost got into panic attack thinking if I will say something wrong and feels really terrified. They told me to relax too that they just want to know. Still, i was petrified eventhough I'm innocent. Fortunately, they believe me and the culprit is found in the end.

Moreover, police don't really have good reputation in my place. Like if I saw then on street I always get nervous, really nervous. Interrogation looks even scarier.

Lil Homo you can not know that at all. People react differently to different situations. I fall apart in exams and forget everything I know, but other people do well.

nateman10 the pint isn’t the real reaction though. The reaction you expect determines your reaction to the reaction you observe. If you assume someone should act one way and they act another, then you’re going to assume guilt. Even natural reactions can look calculated if it’s different to the one you expect. People are not as good as reading other people as they think they are.

Eric Richards she even proved she could!

Eric Richards she even proved she could!

Dizz Dizz the lying isn’t so much the issue. It’s the irony of them saying, “if you’re innocent there’s nothing to worry about”. There’s everything to worry about because the police put innocent people behind bars all the time because they aren’t as good at reading people as they think they are and they don’t seem to understand inherent bias.

Raziza the methods they’re using CREATES false convictions. It wasn’t this time, as long as the father wasn’t mistaken and the brother wasn’t wrong, but it has been other times. And it’s very difficult to tell if someone is innocent.

@nateman10 yes , I watched it,& started in tears, that's me exactly

@nateman10 yes , I watched it,& started in tears, that's me exactly

@Jay Bee That is fine, the point is that it is a real reaction, not how you think someone should react. No faker is going to laugh, so you are fine. They are looking for people not displaying their normal reactions but trying to act how they think they should.
Edit: In other words, the way you would act is a very un-calculated way to act, which is how it should be. They are looking for calculated reactions. People are a lot more weird and emotional (illogical) than people think, being weird is normal, trying to act normal (what you think a "normal" reaction would be) is the giveaway.
Like, ever try to "walk normal" while thinking about it? It makes you walk weird. Similar thing. People's normal weird walks is what is normal, when you analyze and try to walk normal, it comes out weird because it isn't natural, because analyzing and thinking about walking isn't a normal thing, walking however you walk without thinking about it is the normal way people walk even if it is sometimes odd. It won't appear odd if it is natural. It is so much so this way, that it is a common thing in movies or cartoons when someone says "act normal", for everyone to start acting really odd and suspicious.

a really innocent person wouldnt be fearful

a really innocent person wouldnt be fearful

@Cherry Lane That would be obvious as well though, and it is fine. The point is that you would get emotional instead of thinking calm and logically. You would react in a personal way, not be focused on how you are behaving. She tried to act how she thought people should act, not how people really do act. Anger or sadness is the human response.
I do that too (when people are rude or get upset at me in person it really effects me because I try hard for it not to happen), although in this situation I would probably react with anger. I certainly wouldn't be trying to act "normal" in this situation. I wouldn't care what other people thought of how I acted, if my parents had just been killed.
Just shows that we are human. The woman who is being interviewed is a snake, and that is what they noticed. None of her emotion was real, it was only there to manipulate. Having a normal emotional response like yours is hard to fake, because a Sociopath would never think to act that way or even be capable of understanding it.
The way you said you would react reminds me of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=accF0gAmdeg
Hang in there! Sometimes you just need to get mad back and do some yelling. 😄

Yeah that's a trick. If you're gonna be speaking with the authorities do it with your lawyer. Even if you are innocent, it helps to have an attorney.

The police will say anything at all to get you to cooperate, what they say doesn't have to be truth in the slightest.

@Heartsmyface Forever   i don't feel guilty,  it annoys when ppl falsly accuse me. if   feel guilty when not doing anything it's  becasuse you've gotten away with shit in the past so now that guilt carries onto everything else.

I agree with you Jay, particularly knowing that the stance of the police wasn’t impartial here.

I agree with you Jay, particularly knowing that the stance of the police wasn’t impartial here.

Yeah, I'm not even sure she's guilty because she did trust the police. They have a job that is counterintuitive to how most people think. They want to put you away for as many years as they can. So she managed to use her cell phone behind her back? I've seen chicks that can do that, and then some.

I would be very panic if suddenly I become the suspect too... eventhough i am not the murderer or any of their accomplices

This one statement is very often first of many knifes of psychological warfare with potential suspect...

This one statement is very often first of many knifes of psychological warfare with potential suspect...

Law enforcement can lie. But you can’t lie to them.

Law enforcement can lie. But you can’t lie to them.

Yeah any lawyer would tell you not to talk to them even if you are innocent

Yeah any lawyer would tell you not to talk to them even if you are innocent

It happens, and it will always be horrible when there is a wrongful conviction.
But this is a process that for all intents and purposes is necessary, and successful much more often than not. If there is a better way to come to the truth about a situation, I’d love to hear it, but as it stands this is what we work with.
Should she have been innocent, this would had never happened in the first place. Should something have happened and she was innocent, it wouldn’t have been difficult to tell.

Yeah, they just want to incriminate someone, half the time.

Yeah, they just want to incriminate someone, half the time.

ive seen a lot of "itd be true if she was innocent" comments. the only catch is that in that exact moment, she was innocent, because of a core belief held by courts "innocent until proven guilty." therefore, the police officer was completely justified and correct in what they were saying, no matter the pretenses.

@B33st1ng Anyone who knows that innocent people go to jail all the time knows that that line is false and it would not trigger a sense of security.

B33st1ng unless you’re me and feel guilt even when you didn’t do something.  Just the thought of someone thinking I did something makes me feel guilty.

@Catherine Parker Yeah, it's more about the irony of it because false confessions and police not being able to see their own bias is a huge problem.

Simon & Hall there’s so much assumption there’s about how people act. People don’t always act the way you’d assume. I have a weird reaction when I’m told someone has died. I laugh. I don’t know why, but I do.

Irate Puffin innocent people in jail isn’t a good pay off.

Irate Puffin innocent people in jail isn’t a good pay off.

dis cover exactly that. There's numerous false confession stories, and I know there's a lot from Canada.

The techniques to get the confession seem pretty bad to me. Seems more like suggestion in there. Again, I think she did do it, but to see so many praise the techniques used here really bothers me. If her father hadn’t lived and spilled the beans I’d be really unsure of unsure of her  guilt seeing that interview.

If I remember correctly, there was a case where a man was brought into the interrogation room because he had witness to a murder and at first, the cops was being nice to him but over the course of 48 hours, they broke him to the point that he signed a confession to a murder he did not commit. It took him almost 10 years after being sentenced to regain his freedom. Most people believe if you are innocent, then there is nothing to hide; but to investigator, its more about solving the case regardless of whether the person in front of them are innocent or not. I'm looking at you Kamala Harris. If cops or investigators calls you into the station for a "chat."  Call a lawyer immediately! Its not about looking guilty for calling a lawyer but simply to protect yourself because at the end of the day, you dont know anything about the law. Those people only cares about closing the case with a convicted verdict and nothing else.

@Fluffy -Fluffy there are plenty of innocent people in jail.  Just look at the overturned cases when DNA became more reliable.  Lots of people (even on death row) were released because of DNA evidence.  Shows you how easy it is to let bias rule decisions.  Right now the stats for when a wife die is something like 90% of the time, it is the husband.  If you are police, are you really going to spend much energy pursuing other avenues?

Tavros Nitram well when her brother ratted her out *shrug.  He did his own research and he submitted a bunch of evidence and went to asian media. He was on her side until the dad came out of the coma and talked to the son in Vietnamese.

Cherry Lane ya but that will interrupt the way you speak.  Emotions overwhelm the system, whether its anger or sadness.. you can't think properly

Simon & Hall yup. Also innocent people answer in short sentences. There's a lot of confusion but its direct. A liar rambles on and on and on.

Irate Puffin so innocent people in jail are just collateral damage?

Irate Puffin so innocent people in jail are just collateral damage?

And it's really messed up how good they are at knowing how to crack people and manipulating them into thinking they care, but really only to get people prosecuted, even if it was to a criminal

B33st1ng when they said her dad survived her face changed like crazy.

B33st1ng when they said her dad survived her face changed like crazy.

They knew she was guilty. They just said that to see her reaction. Compared to america.. canada system i think is a long process. Most people jailed in canada are guilty ( the really extreme cases) and even then.. a lot actually do get off too.. which is f-up. But ya.. shes' guilty as heck. If they included the asian media.. oh.. the dad went off.. the brother went off the text and stuff they found, friends that were interviewed... the family knew her boyfriend was a bad influence.. thats why they told her that.. but they weren't going to kick her out. Also, the brother i think was over seas or out of town when this happened so when he found out.. oh he was pissed.she made the asian community look so bad..

Very true Jay Bee.  Lots of false convictions from pressure, coercing confessions and from pressure on police to close the case.  Police unfortunately use statistics too often to assume people are guilty instead of actually verifying evidence.  The Reid method, used here, has produced LOTS of false confessions which were later overturned based on DNA and other VALID forensic techniques.  The arguments above, that no sound of mind innocent person would confess, is NOT TRUE at all.  Statistics don't lie.

@Simon & Hall How do you know that! If anyone gets on me, and accuses me of something wrong, but I didn't really, I wouldn't be angry, I just feel like I wish I were dead. Happens often enough, and it's not even anything to do with crime, just, something that wasn't good enough for someone else's liking.

@Irate Puffin people have issue with it because the majority of the time we (in a general sense) only ever hear this with abusive parents

It’s all a mind game until they get to the truth. And they can lie if it helps them do so. You shouldn’t have an issue with it. A lot more guilty people would get off otherwise.

If an innocent person hears that it triggers a "oh yeah that's true, ok calm, they're trying to help. I have nothing to fear" thought
If a guilty person hears that they probably go into a panic "oh shid they onto me, I need to be careful. I need to fear" and it will show throughout their body language as an unconscious physical response due to either panic or relief.

What got me was when they asked of her involvement, she never questioned their suspicion. She instead went quiet which is an opposite response of someone who is innocent. An innocent person would question why they would want their own parents killed. Instead she only said she complied, not specifically with what though (be it the wishes of the 'gentlemen' or complied with the plan in whole).

They were trying to rattle her cage -> You should fear us if you lied

They were trying to rattle her cage -> You should fear us if you lied


1:29:49 <--- These drawings of Jen are incredibly hilarious.


20:20. Ok lessons for anyone who gets interrogated. First never say ANYTHING more than absolutely necessary. She says "I don't want say the wrong things". She then instantly realizes what she said and amends the sentence. This right here was enough for me to figure out she is guilty. The truth is the truth. There is a truth with missing pieces but how would she "say the wrong things" if she is being truthful? She may tell the truth but no remember every detail but saying the wrong things would mean she is lying. How would you say something wrong if you are being truthful? Forgetting some details yes but completely making details up is just lying.


Without dramatic music and edits and even not showing the crime scene, its easy to watch without getting scared. I get triggered by those easily yet I like to watch crime documentaries. Because of the obnoxious elements, I resist watching them.


she should have just pretended to be in shock the whole time and be unresponsive


If that investigator saws “ok” one more time, I’m gonna hurl


31:30 Literally the moment where it is make or break. She knows she is in hot hot water here and by a stroke of pure luck she displays a "legitimately" possible scenario I don't believe she is smart nor could plan out something like this well enough to get by. I just think she got extremely lucky with that bit.


She is a horrible person, but this does raise some alarms because most victims of actual trauma would not be able to fully recall the event, down the the smallest detail. Would that make them suspects too ? The first time that the detectives had any reason to have major suspicion would be around 1:07 in the second interview, her argument falls apart with the specifics of the money. Other than that, there are only minor things thay MAYBE can be used.


Honestly even tho I knew she did it from the start, that line about the Mercedes was here worst red flag


Thanks to this video. I know how to face with my Crime


The quickest way to express the truth is to hypnotize the person


"Enjoyable to watch"? Two people just lost their lives and you people are more concerned on how real this footage is or rather the "reality of the situation". This is exactly what is fucked up in this world.

 5 people were involved in the murder of two people out of the 5, four of them didn't even know the people they were going to kill yet they still did it for reasons no one knows (money? Child hood trauma? Social standards to show their friends they are hard core).
Yet people are commenting on how this enjoyable to watch.


What i can't understand is the operator repeatedly asking her to spell avenue. Really?


IF THEY WAS A LAWYER IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD'VE BEEN DIFFERENT STORY


cant believe i've watched this whole thing twice


I’m no expert but doesn’t she HAVE to be offered a lawyer


I don't think she's a pathological liar. Given her circumstance, she has no choice but to lie and fabricate to avoid prison. Pathological liars often lie out of impulse and getting joy from deceit, but in Jens case I believe is that she would rather be set free and deal with the guilt then tell the truth and rot in prison.

well the point was there was no guilt. she was gonna get caught or move on with her life her guilt was for herself getting caught


Kinda funny how her parents have matching glasses and so does her boyfirend who looks exacty like her


What kind of parenting would get a child to plan their own parents' murder


I bet even with the father not surviving, they would have figured it out. Her story was too weird, and way too sloppy.


Just run away, why kill the parents. Just leave and never go back again. The parents gave that option to disown her which is pretty much like from then on, you are dead to each other.


I feel like parents like this, so completely strict that their children learn that lying is a good thing. It's not an excuse for what she did but the way she was raised simply breeds resentment

7 billion other people disagree with you


Detectives introducing himself : my name is william gates, I go by Bill

My brain: so… Bill Gates?


Detective: at this point you have a lawyer, do you know any lawyers?
Jen: Nooooo
Detective: I can call your parents and see if they.... oh... nevermind.


seems  like the same way she cold bloodedly lied about it is the same way the last detectvie cold bloodedly pretends to show<br> compassion and lies to ehr face then is like empty your pockets on the table you are arrested.....

seems  like the same way she cold bloodedly lied about it is the same way the last detectvie cold bloodedly pretends to show
 compassion and lies to ehr face then is like empty your pockets on the table you are arrested.....


He drives a mercedes and he loves that baby


Her major fault was to make the "robbery" so complicated that it became hard to follow. It could have been a robbery where she hid inside the closet and didn't see anything- nothing to tell. No interrogation.

@Danny Darko yeah but again you gotta take into account the fact that the dad ended up surviving which is something she hadn't counted on happening...like the video mentions, when the dad recovered and regained consciousness, he told investigators that his daughter was never tied up and talking to the suspects like they were friends, as if they knew each other... Her dads recollection of events would've contradicted Jennifer's no matter what kinda story she concocted at this point... Aside from that, investigators went through Jennifer's burner phone and discovered hella incriminating conversations between her and her boyfriend planning out the murders... So no matter what, I think that in the end, she would've still gotten busted one way or another... Best thing would've been to just not murder her parents.

She fell prey to the golden rule of plausible deniability, Less is more. she could've made it as simple as "i went to take the trash out & came back to this horrific scene when i heard gun shots. they must've been watching the house & saw me leave, maybe thinking i was the only one home, i never saw anyone tho" like geez Jen, is it realy that hard?

thats why you graduated high school and she didnt

@Z yeah I know... Also they had burner phones which investigators went back and searched and uncovered incriminating conversations on them between her and her loser boyfriend discussing their plan... I'm glad they all got busted

@Annette Michelle yeah, that's a bummer.

Yeah but you're forgetting that her dad survived tho and he saw and remembered everything... And his testimony would've contradicted hers

@Vonzarooz comparatively it's easier than the whole story she made up

exactly. and she could've painted a picture of being so consumed by guilt for not going downstairs to save her parents because she was too frozen by fear.. seriously she had the ammo for a simpler story

Well the burner phones are pretty damning . . .


her parents picture at the beginning is amazing i want to buy it ngl


I'm on my fourth or fifth rewatch and idk if that's a bad thing or not 🤣


creepy, literally happened 10 minutes from where i live.  Possibly even less than a minute at the time considering my old house was there

@Haleigh Johnson nope, i was young when this all happened


"We can see you in your home like an Xray"

Christ people will believe anything


10:06 she calls them "gentlemen" bruh wtf


I hate how she keeps saying what happens to me. Like what you are getting is so much better than what you did to your parents


its kind of cringe how he tries to convince her that killing her parents isnt a big deal but i guess if it works...

@gamerium ik i get that its his strategy but looking in from the outside its just painful. "we all make mistakes" it makes his job a whole lot easier that she isn't very switched on and crumbled under pressure.

That’s how they manipulate off de doesn’t believe it irl


Hurry and watch it again. Almost all JCS is gone. I H A T E Y O U T U B E.


That was an easy confession for because of emotional up structional. Jennifer your stupid for hurting your parents never do that to the ones who had you why would do that. You truly destroyed your life,


It’s horrible that her parents raised her the way they did. That’s why she turned out like that.


You cant be smarter than a detective, not with those C grades


Why are there no attorneys present in these interrogations? Never evvvver make a statement without first consulting with counsel. Never.


Jennifer! this is a witness debrief, not your pilot pitch to a hollywood producer.


12:19 who wouldn't see a cellphone on a girl in a girls pants these days as tight as we wear them


At the end she didn't get to live the life that she wants