Lets be real here... Jennifer's dad surviving a shot to the head and remembering everything is completely savage.

Edit:
There are some comments saying that Jennifer was being abused by her parents so they had it coming or something within those lines.
Let it be clear that under no circumstance can this be justified for her. No way.
Oh and also, this is not abuse by her parents. Strict parenting is very common for asian households, myself included.

Its normal in some cultures to do all kinds of things, does not make it ok

Its normal in some cultures to do all kinds of things, does not make it ok

@Cornelia Hanimann Ah well thanks for the reply, i did not know. I hope everything works out for you eventually. Best of wishes to you aswell!

@Cornelia Hanimann Ah well thanks for the reply, i did not know. I hope everything works out for you eventually. Best of wishes to you aswell!

@TheChiefOrg13 I have to disagree here, strict parenting isnt bad for a child its just the way you absorb it. If you keep crying over the same thing then there is no progress in life. And if the strict parenting can instill just as much negative outcomes as succesful ones then doesnt it mean its succesful? Stop pampering children this is not how they learn to become strong in life.

Just because something is "common," doesn't mean it's "right." Spanking used to be very commonplace, doesn't make it right. Repression of women is common in religious fundamentalism communities, doesn't make it right. I don't know if I would characterize the way Jennifer was raised as abusive, but at the very least, it seems EXTREMELY SHITTY, wouldn't you agree? Like I guess we can split hairs over whether or not it constitutes full on abuse, but pedantics doesn't change the fact that this mode of parenting can instill negative outcomes just as much as it does successful ones. Incidentally, I'm also Asian, and I know how commonplace strict parenting can be. Doesn't make it right.

All that being said murder is never the solution (I believe in reformative justice), and I'm glad Jennifer had the book thrown at her.

@Ep3c apologies, I might have written my comment in a way where it assumes that your parents were abusive, but at the end of the day I don't know but I know these patterns repeat.

You just also said that Jennifers parents weren't abusive, but to me it seems so obvious that she was really neglected in terms of love. She was so hung up on that boyfriend, a man she probably finally felt warmth from, and even with a very solid story, she finally confessed when the interrogator changed his stance to the one lf a therapist and made her feel understood and she instantly started to vent. She had to either follow the path her parents had decided was right for her, or be disowned. That happens a lot with asian parents and I don't know if her parents would have cared if she went to the streets because of them.
 As someone with asian parents aswell, my parents neglected my health because we only see a doctor for "real" sickness. I remained undiagnosed of adhd until I was 23 and had a tumor in my lung for 1-2 years, undetected because "we don't see the doctor for a cough". If I were to do more exercise and eat healthy maybe I wouldn't struggle so much with my lung, is what they said.
My dad even to this day doesn't feel any guilt for keeping me undiagnosed of a rare type of tumor (that could potentially have become cancer had we waited another year) because no one could have predicted a 20 year old could get that type of ilness.

I'm sorry to lash out on you like that and write a lengthy comment, but I just saw this cycle repeated too many times, where we say, the beating we got made us tougher and the harsh words were for our own good, we had to go through it so the people after us do too.
Strict parenting is good when it's just strict. My parents think of themselves as strict and the reality is that they just didn't know what they were doing and thought they were onto something that turned out to harm me. I use every chance I get to point out to people that we don't need to hang onto this pattern. This has little to do with you and everything to do with me and how I cope with the strict parenting I endured. From what you say, I'm glad to hear that you're self aware and sceptical of what happens around you.

I wish you well.

@Cornelia Hanimann I never said my parents were abusive, because there is a big difference between abusive parents and strict. Hell no I would raise my kids in a very different way because you can learn from their mistakes. Let me quote some of your words: "but we don't need to create another generation of kids that struggle to live in a normal world and remain alienated because their parents can't let go of their outdated traditional parenting rules.", I can understand that but this still does not mean the parents are abusive. You can only become stronger from your own actions.

maybe don't excuse the abuse of your own parents, it might make sense to give that shit purpose so you can live a normal life and say this made you stronger, but I've seen too many people excuse their parents abuse and then turn into the same abusive parents themselves. You can end this cycle, you can acknowledge that strict parenting and abusive parenting are different things and also acknowledge that killing your parents isn't a good way of coping with the abuse you lived through. Jennifer will suffer the consequences of her actions and she is at fault, there is no debate on that, but we don't need to create another generation of kids that struggle to live in a normal world and remain alienated because their parents can't let go of their outdated traditional parenting rules. A lot of kids thrive and are successful or outstandingly talented even when their parents aren't abusive. It's possible and a standard we should work towards instead of justifying bullshit parenting.

Oh I fully agree, only…

abuse

‘strict parenting’

Oh I fully agree, only…

-abuse-

‘strict parenting’

Tiger parenting is abuse. Stop defending that nonsense.

Tiger parenting is abuse. Stop defending that nonsense.

They didn’t force her to come back and live with them. They just told her they would no longer be there for her while she continued to throw away her life as a high school dropout with a boyfriend with no prospects or future.

It’s the same as cutting off an addict instead of enabling. Maybe their tiger parenting was a form of abuse but she chose to go back to them and have them killed instead of living how she wanted.

@The Besties Knowing how much work goes into an investigation,  I think she would go to prison still. My biggest worry is, this keeps happening, young people are killing people all the time now , it's horrible how people are buying into the lie of Satan all she had to do was move out and stay gone! You can even move to another country! There is no excuse for what she did! I pray her Dad can heal from this,!🙏🏻💜☮

If he wouldn't have survived do you think she would have gotten away with it?  Because normally these videos seem so obvious to me.  This one seemed fairly convincing to me. The only part I really was questioning was when she cried, it was fake. No actual tears. So cold...

@TKPh03 yes you do, you definitely have time

@TKPh03 yes you do, you definitely have time

@Leon Chan no amounts of strictness warrants a first degree murder and to be frank, from the information in this video, i feel like her parents  just wanted te best for her and in the end they were right to not like the boyfriend. They were strict sure but she was a grown 24 year old woman just go live your life then and dont live with your parents. Many children get ultimatums from their parents but none kill their parents because of it.

i was watching "i survived" it was about the beruit hijacking in lebanon. she was one of the hostages they shot when negotiations failed. she never lost consciousness when they shot her in the side of the head and she fell 20' to the tarmac. she played dead till the negotiators were allowed to take away the bodies. they loaded her into the ambulance thinking she was dead. the emt in the back flipped her over because he didn't want to see her wound and she gasped and scared him to death. talk about savage. just amazing.

@Roxana Bancila The suspect is iterating her story, so it will obviously be biased to garner sympathy for her case.

@Roxana Bancila The suspect is iterating her story, so it will obviously be biased to garner sympathy for her case.

@Bouncing Bunny inside the house is different from outside the house.

@Bouncing Bunny inside the house is different from outside the house.

@Leon Chan that's wrong. that's like saying i will sell my parent's soul to hell because they beat me this one time.
there are TONS of other solutions to solve any problem. and murder is definitely NOT one of them! one prominent solution was already mentioned in the video and that is "discuss it with themselves". they could've easily discussed their family problems with themselves. instead, jennifer preferred to follow her moment of anger and stupidity into a route of no return. any person in a moment of anger can do or say somethings they will regret for the rest of their lives. that's why there are always second chances. but once you do this, there isn't.

her parents are immigrants from Vietnam. which clearly means that they have had it rough. they wanted their daughter to have a better life. the media can say whatever they want about strict asian parents like "her father was a strict asshole, and her mother was a horrible dictator..blah blah blah". this could be taken from the words of their own daughter who was angry and emotional and could easily blows everything out of proportions to make her parents look like complete mosnters. but her parents clearly loved her. her mom kept pleading with the kidnappers "where is my daughter? why can't my daughter come too?" unbeknownst to them that their daughter planed this whole thing!

@Geno Xflame I honestly think some serious physical and sexual abuse happend to her for her to actually be willing to kill her parents instead of leaving

Some more fucked up shit happened that only she knew and it drove her to the level of destroying her and her parents lives

I can't see any other explanation

I've gotten in plenty of fist fights with my dad my friends but not in a million years would of ever thought of killing him or drawing a weapon to kill anyone that's just not in me

There's some deep trauma in this woman granted her horrible decision

This whole situation is just sad and the world will never know what really drove her over the edge

@Bouncing Bunny murdering is demonic and should probably be punished with a death sentence

@Bouncing Bunny murdering is demonic and should probably be punished with a death sentence

@SFV Native huh no it says in the video that they were very good economically and the man drives a good car. They wanted their daughter to have a degree and earn a good money to not depend of any husband, and less of that yay dealer, and gave thanks by doing shitty degrees, lying to them for many years having a criminal boyfriend just to have a second chance at 24 (!) years old, killing mom and ruining dad's life in Response. You have to be very ungrateful and cynical to place caring parents as the villains. But that's how it is nowadays... Humanity under this generation won't last 50 years I can tell

@Jahnavi Barot--It's abuse to tell children they're losers because they are at 99 out of 100 instead if 100. It's abuse to ruin a child's childhood so you can use them as trophies and feel important and get more money from children when parents get old. It's abuse to beat children for not being perfect or for making mistakes.

Everyone is saying strict parents but she had enough freedom to plot a murder. Wild

Everyone is saying strict parents but she had enough freedom to plot a murder. Wild

@Lewhitey  ok...
His fault he didn’t have time to Fucking waste on YouTube....really bud?
Spare parts?

@Lewhitey  ok...
His fault he didn’t have time to Fucking waste on YouTube....really bud?
Spare parts?

@Filthy Casual umm mind ur business not everyone has 2 hrs to watch it

@Filthy Casual umm mind ur business not everyone has 2 hrs to watch it

He was that strong! That man is a fighter

He was that strong! That man is a fighter

@Bouncing Bunny They might of been shitty parents but they definitely didn’t deserve death

@Bouncing Bunny They might of been shitty parents but they definitely didn’t deserve death

Yea but imagine waking up to know that your daughter killed your wife and tried to kill you it’s not something you’d want to come back to

Yea but imagine waking up to know that your daughter killed your wife and tried to kill you it’s not something you’d want to come back to

He kind of sucks as a person though, and so did the wife. Neither of them deserved that to happen to them.

He kind of sucks as a person though, and so did the wife. Neither of them deserved that to happen to them.

@under the seafoam fam, did you grow up in an Asian household that ruled over you like North Korea's dictatorship<br>?

@under the seafoam fam, did you grow up in an Asian household that ruled over you like North Korea's dictatorship
?

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree 🤷🏻♀

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree 🤷🏻♀

@419 Buckeye the thing is, would she have turned to people like that has she had the proper support and parenting?
It's likely she chose to hangout with them because they were the extreme opposite of her parents and lifestyle.
It's similar to having a kid that is sheltered their whole life and they finally get a taste of the real world..they go full on.
Whereas someone that was taught and gradually introduced or talked to about this stuff, like it's not some taboo, but something people need to learn at certain points of their life...you get a more well adjusted person capable of saying no or knowing their limits.

@Adrian Griffin they probably didn't notice but i dunno

@Adrian Griffin they probably didn't notice but i dunno

LOCAL ASIAN FATHER TOO DISAPPOINTED TO DIE

LOCAL ASIAN FATHER TOO DISAPPOINTED TO DIE

@Dhanraj well they must have missed out on the manners part of your upbringing. Telling someone to shut the hell up for having an opinion is rude. Debate a difference of opinion, by all means but being abusive doesn't look good.

@Leon Chan tbf I think her father should be charged for abuse as well, along with her, her boyfriend, and the 3 black hitmen she called to the house.

@Leon Chan tbf I think her father should be charged for abuse as well, along with her, her boyfriend, and the 3 black hitmen she called to the house.

@Leon Chan I agree with a lot of what you said but to be fair to the parents they gave Jennifer a clear ultimatum about staying or leaving and she chose to stay which is on her.

@Leon Chan I agree with a lot of what you said but to be fair to the parents they gave Jennifer a clear ultimatum about staying or leaving and she chose to stay which is on her.

They say "minor brain damage" like getting shot in the head is something that everyday schmucks do lol her dad was an absolute pogchamp

They say "minor brain damage" like getting shot in the head is something that everyday schmucks do lol her dad was an absolute pogchamp

under the seafoam not really. Yes they didn’t deserve to die but years of abuse which would have continued for who knows how long pushed her to that point. It’s like Gypsy Rose Blanchard on a smaller scale

@Leon Chan  i swear that father is not as strict as we see
it is kinda expected from all asian kids to do good no matter what, i had the same too
but i bluntly told my parents that i cant get the best grades and so did my brother
that repulsive jennifer had the choice but she didnt tell her parents and instead faked all her reports and diploma and to make things worse she lived with a drug dealer boyfriend.
How disappointed her parents would be to see her go astray like that , so of course they gave her an ultimatum.

plus my parents were tiger parents too , we were not allowed to watch for more than a hour and a half while she has a TV in her own bedroom.!!!!
thats a little shocking..

and dont cast anything which disagrees with you as ABUSE

@Leon Chan I agreed somewhat. Kids are like white canvas, its the parent teaching make her who she is now. However, the child also have decisions to make. Maybe its good or bad. Both is in the fault here.

@Leon Chan I agreed somewhat. Kids are like white canvas, its the parent teaching make her who she is now. However, the child also have decisions to make. Maybe its good or bad. Both is in the fault here.

He shows everyone why he was the Alpha of the family.

He shows everyone why he was the Alpha of the family.

And they double tapped him too and still survived

And they double tapped him too and still survived

I deeply disliked that man for how he treated his dauther so, no. I am sad he didn't die, not meant like that, but still he deserved jail. He seemed awful when she got her "therapy" and told her whole life to these policemen.

@cleo if your watching the video again yea time stamp is useful. but the don't watch the video if you don't have the attention span to sit through it.

@cleo if your watching the video again yea time stamp is useful. but the don't watch the video if you don't have the attention span to sit through it.

@Tancredi Falconeri yes I do, if your watching a tik tok your attention span is to short for this video, go watch cringy girls dance

@Tancredi Falconeri yes I do, if your watching a tik tok your attention span is to short for this video, go watch cringy girls dance

@Lewhitey you seem awfully emotional over how someone else conducts their viewing experience. crying in youtube comments cos someone chose to skip through a video 😂

@Lewhitey you seem awfully emotional over how someone else conducts their viewing experience. crying in youtube comments cos someone chose to skip through a video 😂

@Leon Chan he was a strict parent yes, but not every strict parent comes out with a killer child. She had some sort of mental illness, mixed with pressure from parents. It’s not at all just his fault. Probably less than 50%. It’s nature and nurture in this case.

@Roxana Bancila Stan the father who doesn't even see his daughter as a human being but as an achievement tool ? Yeah right

@Roxana Bancila Stan the father who doesn't even see his daughter as a human being but as an achievement tool ? Yeah right

@Roxana Bancila hes not a legend at all the parents dont deserve respect

@Roxana Bancila hes not a legend at all the parents dont deserve respect

@Roxana Bancila How is abusing your child being a "legend"?

@Roxana Bancila How is abusing your child being a "legend"?

try to kill me will ya!? <b>shakes fist in air</b>

try to kill me will ya!? *shakes fist in air*

@Kerrick76 Oh boy, don't get started on Asian families and therapists. Many do not believe in psychology, just admitting it may be a stain on their family's honor and that the person seeking therapy is just mentally weak and need some discipline to get them back on track. I know some Asians who are changing their opinions on it, but overall having someone with a mental issue carries a sort of stigma in the community. We even see such behavior in Western countries, though to a lesser extent. (grew up in an Asian household).

@Geno Xflame  As someone who was abused, I’ll just say that treating your kids like a product and not caring about their health is abusive in its own way.

@Geno Xflame  As someone who was abused, I’ll just say that treating your kids like a product and not caring about their health is abusive in its own way.

@Dhanraj I dunno man, grew up American switching from family member to family member and I turned out alright but aight bro yea your Asian way of parenting where you boarderline abuse your kids is the best.

@Elisabeth patrolling the Mohave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

@Elisabeth patrolling the Mohave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

I don't know you, therefore what effect could I possibly have over you, @Jahnavi Barot?

I don't know you, therefore what effect could I possibly have over you, @Jahnavi Barot?

@Kyle Edward Hanophy why would abusive parents and this unfortunate situation make me feel good like tf? Why are you literally after me man.

@Kyle Edward Hanophy why would abusive parents and this unfortunate situation make me feel good like tf? Why are you literally after me man.

lol I'm sure that makes you feel good, @Jahnavi Barot.

lol I'm sure that makes you feel good, @Jahnavi Barot.

@Kyle Edward Hanophy I have more information on them than you have on me. They were abusive parents.

@Kyle Edward Hanophy I have more information on them than you have on me. They were abusive parents.

Oh, so you know the Pan Family, @Jahnavi Barot? 😏

Oh, so you know the Pan Family, @Jahnavi Barot? 😏

@Kyle Edward Hanophy It's fine actually. Who are these several of us. I never claimed to be a good person. And if you say that about someone without knowing them...it says more about you than me.

@Kyle Edward Hanophy It's fine actually. Who are these several of us. I never claimed to be a good person. And if you say that about someone without knowing them...it says more about you than me.

@YOHO HOYO yup. I have two daughters now. I will enforce boundaries but foster their likes instead of setting a strict Parth of them.

@YOHO HOYO yup. I have two daughters now. I will enforce boundaries but foster their likes instead of setting a strict Parth of them.

@Lewhitey <br>Dude I don’t know what time stamps did to you, but I think you need to get some counseling with them 😭

@Lewhitey
Dude I don’t know what time stamps did to you, but I think you need to get some counseling with them 😭

@Leon Chan and they will said our life fucked up because of we didn't listen to them. NO NO NO you guys forced me to do things I didn't want to do, guess what now I'm lost with my fucking life.

@Leon Chan and they will said our life fucked up because of we didn't listen to them. NO NO NO you guys forced me to do things I didn't want to do, guess what now I'm lost with my fucking life.

Odd, @Jahnavi Barot. Several of us don't think you're a good person. Ironic, eh?

Odd, @Jahnavi Barot. Several of us don't think you're a good person. Ironic, eh?

@Roxana Bancila He was liteally abusive why should we atan him? She isn't a good person but neither is he.

@Roxana Bancila He was liteally abusive why should we atan him? She isn't a good person but neither is he.

@Roxana Bancila what abuse? Strict parenting isn’t abuse.

@Roxana Bancila what abuse? Strict parenting isn’t abuse.

@Leon Chan he may be an asshole for sure. His parenting style is apparent in many foreign cultures that fight for the chance to be allowed into this country. All that aside, first generation children of immigrants are held to such a high bar. Their parents sacrificed innumerable things to migrate to the land of opportunity for the sake of their future family. I know this firsthand, my parents were strict and overbearing but not to the point to say, "failure is not an option."<br>The balance of structure, support, and high standards are a crucial component, in my opinion, is a good way to raise a child to be a well- functioning adult in society.

@Leon Chan he may be an asshole for sure. His parenting style is apparent in many foreign cultures that fight for the chance to be allowed into this country. All that aside, first generation children of immigrants are held to such a high bar. Their parents sacrificed innumerable things to migrate to the land of opportunity for the sake of their future family. I know this firsthand, my parents were strict and overbearing but not to the point to say, "failure is not an option."
The balance of structure, support, and high standards are a crucial component, in my opinion, is a good way to raise a child to be a well- functioning adult in society.

@Leon Chan True but if she's gonna end up killing her parents why not just choose option B (disowned)?

@Leon Chan True but if she's gonna end up killing her parents why not just choose option B (disowned)?

@A J the environment she grew up around and was still around shaped the person she is, of course, she had agency in her choices. But she also mostly got her manipulation from her parents, just like how she was basically trained to be a good liar under their strict conditions. Kids with tiger parents are always good at lying bc they have to go around their parents, so duh she's manipulative. I'm not blaming anyone for anything I said “wonder who she got it from” not that they deserve it or it was their fault. Stay in ur feels but u got my comment wrong and that's “simply stupid”

I had to read this in pre-WW2 Samurai, @Carlos Costa.

I had to read this in pre-WW2 Samurai, @Carlos Costa.

It's like a super crazy plot twist in a movie. I'm an atheist but this feels a lot like someone was looking out for her parents and making sure she was brought to justice.

It's like a super crazy plot twist in a movie. I'm an atheist but this feels a lot like someone was looking out for her parents and making sure she was brought to justice.

@Leon Chan he wanted the best outcome for his daughter

@Leon Chan he wanted the best outcome for his daughter

I honestly couldn't care if that guy livedor died

I honestly couldn't care if that guy livedor died

@Daniyaal Taherali fax man wake up and was like where da peice of crap and d cops dey like whoo

@Daniyaal Taherali fax man wake up and was like where da peice of crap and d cops dey like whoo

Is crazy what people do.I pray god for understanding

Is crazy what people do.I pray god for understanding

@Seineldin lol I grew up with plenty of Tiger parents and peers. I've witnessed the tears and self harm. Wanting the best for your kid is natural but you will get shit like this.

@Seineldin lol I grew up with plenty of Tiger parents and peers. I've witnessed the tears and self harm. Wanting the best for your kid is natural but you will get shit like this.

@YOHO HOYO my favourite is "cause I'm older" as their excuse for poor judgement

@YOHO HOYO my favourite is "cause I'm older" as their excuse for poor judgement

@C D lol I had a Tiger Mom complete with the forbidden love story. Except I was more academically inclined and got straight As. Never crossed my mind to murder my parents but leaving and giving up on university to move out was considered.

@Leon Chan it's been going on with Asians since the beginning of time. You can't just change an entire culture over night because you don't agree with it.
 Is it better for the parents to be drug addicts in jail and you end up a junkie yourself or going hungry and not ending up in school?
 There's ABSOLUTELY no excuse for this unless you are a monster.. I can understand running away, hell I can even understand attacking your parent/s if you were to explode.
  But setting them up to be killed is vile and animalistic. There's no defending this, and that's the very reason she'll be doing heavy time in prison if not, life.

Not only that, but he played dumb to help the Detectives immediately after a traumatic brain injury. The man is a legend.

Not only that, but he played dumb to help the Detectives immediately after a traumatic brain injury. The man is a legend.

@Kesuke exactly 💯 it doesn't sound like she was left in a stress position for failing to concentrate on her homework...

@Kesuke exactly 💯 it doesn't sound like she was left in a stress position for failing to concentrate on her homework...

"How dare parents have the best interest for their children?" -@Leon Chan, probably

"How dare parents have the best interest for their children?" -@Leon Chan, probably

This comment just ruined the end of the video 😂😂😂😂😂

This comment just ruined the end of the video 😂😂😂😂😂

Unlike his daughter he studied how to survive and got an A+

Unlike his daughter he studied how to survive and got an A+

@C D thank you...dude ignored the lying about grades, drug dealer boyfriend Etc

@C D thank you...dude ignored the lying about grades, drug dealer boyfriend Etc

this was so unexpected. it was like a big plottwits in deathnote or something like that

this was so unexpected. it was like a big plottwits in deathnote or something like that

@Leon Chan we're they really treating her bad or just did not want her hanging out with people capable of you know murder

@Leon Chan we're they really treating her bad or just did not want her hanging out with people capable of you know murder

da wa does happen when you lie after swearing on d bible lol

da wa does happen when you lie after swearing on d bible lol

Probably traumatized from having to remember it all tho...

Probably traumatized from having to remember it all tho...

@LalaLamb  damn three, his team must have paid up

@LalaLamb  damn three, his team must have paid up

Malala survived three and turned out fine

Malala survived three and turned out fine

@Bouncing Bunny I find their strictness arguable seeing how she was getting away with terrible grades, and being with a drug dealer boyfriend for eight years. It's no minor thing to fake a college career. Frankly if the parents were as bad as described, they would have just kicked her out. They gave her the ultimatum to live by her lies, or try to make things right. From these facts alone, there's no sympathy to be had for this snake. (at 42:00. Will edit if I made an error)

@Rhine Rivia what’s a courier of new Vegas

@Rhine Rivia what’s a courier of new Vegas

@ladycalderone99 because people love to belittle others to make themselves feel better about themselves hence why there were comments about how everyone has no attention span except them of course because they watched the video. And people love to put down others in general it’s like a compulsive need.

You can't take down a Vietnamese so easily.

You can't take down a Vietnamese so easily.

@Lewhitey why are you getting so pressed buddy didn’t have the time calm yourself

@Lewhitey why are you getting so pressed buddy didn’t have the time calm yourself

@Leon Chan this is so american it's funny

@Leon Chan this is so american it's funny

Pops came out the blue with the dishonor

Pops came out the blue with the dishonor

From where you're kneeling it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck.<br>Truth is...the game was rigged from the start.

From where you're kneeling it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck.
Truth is...the game was rigged from the start.

Truth is...<br>The game was rigged from the start

Truth is...
The game was rigged from the start

@Leon Chan It's like a twist in a bad movie: not even a headshot can stop a controlling father.

@Leon Chan It's like a twist in a bad movie: not even a headshot can stop a controlling father.

@Leon Chan totally agree. tiger parenting drives people crazy. And their excuse is "because we love you" fucking bullshit.

@Leon Chan totally agree. tiger parenting drives people crazy. And their excuse is "because we love you" fucking bullshit.

jennifer's father: gets shot in the face and shoulder also jen's dad: Survives, recovers and remembers the entire encounter il vento d'oro start's playing

jennifer's father: *gets shot in the face and shoulder* also jen's dad: *Survives, recovers and remembers the entire encounter* -il vento d'oro start's playing-

@ash I would blame her for it. She is an adult, so using the excuse ''it's because of my parents'' is simply stupid

@ash I would blame her for it. She is an adult, so using the excuse ''it's because of my parents'' is simply stupid

driven by pure anger into staying alive.

driven by pure anger into staying alive.

@Bouncing Bunny asian parents be like :<

@Bouncing Bunny asian parents be like :<

@ash<br>Yeah, but saying that just points the fault back to the dad, when in reality the entire incident was BOTH the parent's and Jennifer's faults.

@ash
Yeah, but saying that just points the fault back to the dad, when in reality the entire incident was BOTH the parent's and Jennifer's faults.

Ya know what it’s a long vid so I don’t even mind it was spoiled, plus I kinda felt like that’s gonna happen 😎

Ya know what it’s a long vid so I don’t even mind it was spoiled, plus I kinda felt like that’s gonna happen 😎

@Lewhitey What is the point of getting angry over someone wanting a timestamp? I, for one, am watching the whole thing. But, sometimes I like going back to watch certain parts again without fully remembering exactly where in a 90 minute long video something happened. A timestamp is tremendously helpful in that circumstance. How about not insulting people for no reason?

@Brainless R6 the whole family had issues, I don’t know if because of his culture he was too proud to seek help and hindsight is everything but they could’ve used a good shrink. Now it is a tragedy and she has to deal with the consequences.

@Tancredi Falconeri no one cares if you’re an undisciplined, low-attention span kid. If you click on a 90 minute video, then you’re expected to sit there and watch it. He shouldn’t need a time stamp for that fact. It’s his fault for not having the patience to watch and listen to the video through to the end.

“Truth is game was rigged from the start”

“Truth is game was rigged from the start”

@Filthy Casual people these days, and maybe not only these days, aren't even able to pay attention to a whole tiktok video and you want him to watch an entire 90 minutes one?

@Filthy Casual people these days, and maybe not only these days, aren't even able to pay attention to a whole tiktok video and you want him to watch an entire 90 minutes one?

@Leon Chan bull shit. Sounds like you’d do the same thing as her if held to a high standard.

@Leon Chan bull shit. Sounds like you’d do the same thing as her if held to a high standard.

Asians be wondering how much this 'strict to a ridiculous extent' really is

Asians be wondering how much this 'strict to a ridiculous extent' really is

@Leon Chan Yeah that's a case where everyone is terrible and it just sucks

@Leon Chan Yeah that's a case where everyone is terrible and it just sucks

@*insert creative name* did you not watch it.?

@*insert creative name* did you not watch it.?

@*insert creative name* watch the video don't skip through it. that's dumb

@*insert creative name* watch the video don't skip through it. that's dumb

Bet he was a less strict parent after tho!

Bet he was a less strict parent after tho!

@Leon Chan ya but the daughter is also manipulative and we don’t really know how true she is in all this

@Leon Chan ya but the daughter is also manipulative and we don’t really know how true she is in all this

@Leon Chan  oh don't get me wrong , I was ONLY talking abt how he survived the shot. He's not a legend overall bcs of the abuse..

@Leon Chan  oh don't get me wrong , I was ONLY talking abt how he survived the shot. He's not a legend overall bcs of the abuse..

We should all stan her father honestly, he do be a legend

We should all stan her father honestly, he do be a legend

@*insert creative name* its at about 44:00 :3

@*insert creative name* its at about 44:00 :3


in my opinion, the best things abt JCS is that there's no music - happy or sad - that tells you how to feel. the narrator doesn't ramble on about their opinions on the case, so you can really develop ur own opinion on the case. and also that there's 0 over dramatic edits. it's way more enjoyable to watch than any other true crime series/channel when you can really focus on the case and the way you feel about it.

mrballen also has a nice way to cover true crime

mrballen also has a nice way to cover true crime

gostava eh de saber como   eh que este video tem mais likes e comentarios do views hummmmmmmmmm ja sei andam a compralos kkkkkkkkkk

Absolutely agree!
It's all facts. Nooannoyingusic, no other's opinions, no drama, NO RECAPS AND REPETITION!
And a very, very easy voice to listen to, which is rare these days!

Yeah, I found stylized videos about real life tragedies really fucking cringe

Yeah, I found stylized videos about real life tragedies really fucking cringe

@Nani_Bow i don't really agree with that. i think some people would still have the same opinion, tbh. either way, they're still wrong.

There are a lot of people in the comments backing up the girl and saying that the parents deserved it are probably a murderer/psycho . The only reason why people see it as acceptable and think that the parents deserved it is because the killer is a women/girl. If the genders are reversed, people would have different reaction

To be honest, I enjoyed the music and video edit that they have done on the John Warmachine Koppenhaver, both in the beginning and the ending, it hit hard in a right way.

Man imagine if news stations were as unbiased as JCS just raw facts no opinions that's the world I want to live in.

Such an interesting take I hadn’t thought of

Such an interesting take I hadn’t thought of

This has always been what's drawn me to him. Its no bullshit

This has always been what's drawn me to him. Its no bullshit

This was so hard to read but somehow I understand thanks

This was so hard to read but somehow I understand thanks

Yes, it concentrates on the known facts and doesn't treat the viewer like a child that needs to be led to a conclusion while being told how to feel.

I would have to respectfully disagree. He absolutely does give his own opinions(like the Prince Andrew video saying that he was a lying sack of shit) but to his credit he never veers too far off topic. He's given what he thinks about gun culture in America(saying that guns are here to stay) and in an episode that's sadly no longer on YouTube(thanks Susan) criticizes a cam girl for not giving back any money that was given to her by Grant Amato(who killed his family over a dispute regarding Grant giving away hundreds of thousands of dollars of his father's money to said cam girl) for the family's funeral and resulting debt that had to be handled by the relatives.

These are not bad things mind you, as the pieces of garbage had such criticisms coming, but nevertheless he does give his own opinions and we are led to believe certain things about a person without giving much benefit of the doubt.

@Panthers There's always one isn't there.

@Panthers There's always one isn't there.

I've always HATED channels that play upon drama or insert their own subjective view points.

I've always HATED channels that play upon drama or insert their own subjective view points.

Are you kidding? Most of the analysis is entirely subjective and the writers opinion. Please take these videos with a grain of salt. They're good, but not great when it actually comes to criminal psychology.

Yeah I can’t stand the ones who say JCS inspired but then they’re narration is just them repeating what we just watched on the video. Jim actually discusses human emotion, behavior, interrogation techniques, and psychological breakdowns and things like that. He’s truly the best channel of this genre, and one of the best youtubers ever. We miss him.

The most dramatic edit I've seen is the broken glass overlay in the pretending to be crazy episode.

right it's straight up documentary not dramatic

right it's straight up documentary not dramatic

Big this. I got addicted to the JCS videos and tried watching crime docs on Hulu and Netflix... and man I hated the editing in the "professional" ones.

I'm a musician and it's cool to have another person recognize the power of music!!! God bless you and your objectivity

@Emma Rowan so be like me and don't ascribe to Instagram, or Twitter, or any of that mainstream bullshit. It makes life easier, sister.

Bro, you just added #3 to my list. It was incomplete before that.

Bro, you just added #3 to my list. It was incomplete before that.

Other than the great happy intro music montages of some of them. But yeah, he doesn't mess up the interviews at all. Amazing vids.

Thank you...I thought I was the only one annoyed by the music youtubers play.

Thank you...I thought I was the only one annoyed by the music youtubers play.

I could never find the words to describe this. I totally agree thank you for being in my head!

yes i agree! the narrator explains things so you can digest them easily!

yes i agree! the narrator explains things so you can digest them easily!

Completely agree, no sensationalism or sex just, the story as it is without "it was a HAWT affair"

I've found myself becoming exceedingly more angry at the individuals in these videos than the jury

Yup. Quality content that YouTube is basically forcing this channel off the platform.

Yup. Quality content that YouTube is basically forcing this channel off the platform.

Those are some good observations. Also, RIP Joey

Those are some good observations. Also, RIP Joey

Agreed!!! There is a body language person who does reads, but is so opinionated and emotional that the actual act of reading body language becomes obscured.

No for real! It’s so hard for me to get into other channels that is just a person talking to a webcam, or channels edited like dateline episodes with lots of back tracking. No distractions!

@Saint Lynnie Absolutely, I have that video saved. The Bob Marley montage of their relationship was excellent

@Man with No Name he's not "cancelled" 🙄<br>YouTube's automod system is, yet again, being the broken mess that it is and took down a bunch of JCS videos. He's trying to talk to support about it but they're predictably useless

@Man with No Name he's not "cancelled" 🙄
YouTube's automod system is, yet again, being the broken mess that it is and took down a bunch of JCS videos. He's trying to talk to support about it but they're predictably useless

I don’t know about all other true crime channels. There are good ones out there. But I do like this guys minimalist approach.

@Bruja Chingona - you subscribed at the worst time, JCS is maybe finished because YouTube has cancelled him or something like that... <br>Just awfull tbh..

@Bruja Chingona - you subscribed at the worst time, JCS is maybe finished because YouTube has cancelled him or something like that...
Just awfull tbh..

Agreed but there is some music in the War Machine video. In good taste though

Agreed but there is some music in the War Machine video. In good taste though

He often includes music in the intros and it’s always fabulous.

He often includes music in the intros and it’s always fabulous.

@Dsmith551 that intro was pretty good, but the intro for the story of Christy Mack and Jon Koppenhaver was absolute movie quality and gave me chills the first time I saw it. Very well done.

Agree 💯 and what's with all the women & true crime channels doing their make up? I keep getting distracted with the Instagram face & end up having to go back & forth, it's annoying as f.

Yes, I was thinking "why is watching this channel is so relaxing and you just made the point. "

That's called editing & involves composing to help the director form their narrative

That's called editing & involves composing to help the director form their narrative

This comment is what made me decide to subscribe.
I've also unsubscribed from the dramatic channels. Perfectly stated. I wasn't sure why I gravitated to this channel more until you stated it.
Perfect.

Exactly. I watched the same story in dateline and seeing that vs this was like seeing it at home vs watching this at school. I prefer this method because I'm getting a more in depth look at the story

You're right, except I can watch the intros repeatedly like the Florida montage one playing "Devil in Disguise" (name?) by Elvis that was well done.

Yes!  I'm glad I just discovered this channel myself.  It's just the raw facts, unedited. At least less edited than some lame top tens list or something

I wish the copycats would understand this.

I wish the copycats would understand this.


Never EVER speak to cops without a lawyer. Also, don’t murder your parents.

Never EVER speak to cops without a lawyer. Also, don’t murder your parents.

@DizzyPenguin Of course you should corporate with police and answer any and all questions. No one is suggesting you shouldn’t help in an investigation. The only thing being stressed is, have an attorney present. You can help save the other person’s life while simultaneously protecting your own. You have every right to an appointed attorney and it won’t cost you a penny out of pocket. Think of it like oxygen masks in an airplane. You have to put yours on 1st before helping the ones you love.

So as a child when one of my family members left a note and disappeared, I should’ve refused to speak to the police and provide information that could help them find her? Not every situation is the same. If I have the opportunity to save a life or provide a statement that can be of use or help, I am going to do it.

@Jinka1950 just wanted to weigh in for a moment. I’m a linguist, and a lot of my training came from the legal field. I had a Professor who is one of the biggest expert witnesses in interrogation room misconduct. He would DRILL into us nearly every day that you ALWAYS want a lawyer. Always always always. Cops have done some nasty stuff to force confession out of innocent people, all while the person didn’t even realize they are confessing

@Alex Lyons if you’re being accused of something, even remotely, get yourself one

@Alex Lyons if you’re being accused of something, even remotely, get yourself one

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden it's not like he Killing his parents

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden it's not like he Killing his parents

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden why is that angry you so much?

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden why is that angry you so much?

@Raising Cain we believe ur comment is original....we are with you

@Raising Cain we believe ur comment is original....we are with you

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden are u really telling this person "Don't get too worked up abt it" while u on the other hand are accusing this person of plagerism......so really who's the one that need to calm down? I think u should take ur own advice😐🥱

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden lmao you are so bored. Go outside buddy, no need to harass random people in YOUTUBE COMMENTS.

@Chris Watson Dude, that legit made me lol!

@Chris Watson Dude, that legit made me lol!

maybe dont murder in general is better advice

maybe dont murder in general is better advice

@Raising Cain You stole my comment, im having my lawyer contact you with a cease and desist and also I want compensation for the 4k likes to stole from me. You're in deep S buddy.

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden you especially need to work on being a better person

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden you especially need to work on being a better person

@Chinmay Kawle Because I'm virgin, lonely, and have very low IQ.

@Chinmay Kawle Because I'm virgin, lonely, and have very low IQ.

Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden bruh why you like this

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden bruh why you like this

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden Also don’t copy comments

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden Also don’t copy comments

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden who cares if he copied the comment? he's speaking real shit... Never hurts to recycle this comment every now n then

Thanks, if I am involved in a homicide, and if I am being accused, I will REFUSE to utter a word about the crime without a lawyer present.
I am 14, so I dont know if you can call for a lawyer at that age.
Also the person who accused you of copying someone elses comment can p#ss off. (Trying my best not to be TOO rude.

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden Wrong, OK Man: un-safe driving  is NEVER cool.

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden Wrong, OK Man: un-safe driving  is NEVER cool.

@Bonnie Clyde yeah but the system is not always fair so its always better to get one just as a precaution

@Bonnie Clyde yeah but the system is not always fair so its always better to get one just as a precaution

I mean if I'm innocent I feel as if I don't need a lawyer, if I am guilty of something ill get one.

I mean if I'm innocent I feel as if I don't need a lawyer, if I am guilty of something ill get one.

@Faith Haley so better raise your children carefully

@Faith Haley so better raise your children carefully

This is the best comment 🥺 it’s so messed up that people really do this stuff especially their owwwwnnnn parents !

This is the best comment 🥺 it’s so messed up that people really do this stuff especially their owwwwnnnn parents !

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden dude there is literally nothing original about the "original"comment 😂😂 are u 5 or smth

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden dude there is literally nothing original about the "original"comment 😂😂 are u 5 or smth

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden it’s just basic advice. Everyone should know it and it doesn’t matter who says it first

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden it’s just basic advice. Everyone should know it and it doesn’t matter who says it first

So many people are trying to attack you because they’re pressed that you wrote a comment on a YouTube video 🤦🏻♂...knowing half of everything in the world was plagiarized but why do they even care what you do? 😂😂

@Bill the Fifth oh yeah. Its no comment what ever the situation.  I was faulsy accused by police of burgling my own family's house, I was innocent but went no comment still.

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden I didn’t know YouTube had comment police

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden I didn’t know YouTube had comment police

@Leigh Morgan Agreed. However you might have seen it too but I watched a video about how EVEN if you're innocent you shouldn't talk to the cops. Innocent people can say things that get them in trouble or waste their time.

@Bill the Fifth there's litterally nothing to be gained by talking to them during interviews. Unless you are innocent and have an alibi or something of that nature.

I agree. I don't know why people talk to the cops.

I agree. I don't know why people talk to the cops.

no need for a lawyer theyre worthless, well apart from maybe in court , its quite simple, NO COMMENT.

no need for a lawyer theyre worthless, well apart from maybe in court , its quite simple, NO COMMENT.

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden omg ur yet channel has been since 14 years pls reply to me

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden omg ur yet channel has been since 14 years pls reply to me

@Luke Schalki I dont see a correlation between percentage of comments to sensitivity level, but ok.<br>And yea, you do look more sensitive.

@Luke Schalki I dont see a correlation between percentage of comments to sensitivity level, but ok.
And yea, you do look more sensitive.

@Luke Schalki how sensitive you look?? Dude got called out for some bs and defended himself and the other guy kept doubling down and calling him petty names, so he clarified in more detail. Maybe you should relax.. bud.

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden dude.. saying dont talk to the police without a lawyer isn't a patented phrase or even uncommon at all.
"Stealing someone's work is not cool."
No one is making a living off of YouTube comments bro and you sound like an intro to ethics class.

@D. Marie I wonder if it was true when he said the whole police department feels sorry for you....

@D. Marie I wonder if it was true when he said the whole police department feels sorry for you....

@Brilliant Beaches No one is saying don’t speak to the police or plead the 5th. Of course everyone would want to help as much as they could if something tragic like that happens. You can fully corporate and answer as many questions as you please. Just, have a lawyer present. It is your right to protect yourself.

@Jinka1950 yeah Lea is correct. There is actually a video on this channel where they had 2 guys in questioning who were both innocent (separate cases) and you can see the cop trying to goad them into a confession even with no evidence.

@Luke Schalki Your condescending, unsubstantiated and hypocritical response only further proves my point. So Thx!

@Luke Schalki Your condescending, unsubstantiated and hypocritical response only further proves my point. So Thx!

To the people who think "it will look suspicious"...who cares? If you're innocent they can think whatever they want of you for wanting a lawyer, at least if you have a lawyer you'll have better protection instead of being out in open water. If you're more worried about looking suspicious than you are about them using your words against you to incriminate you then you have bigger things to worry about.

@Blue Jazz Now deleting your comments to make it seem i was bullying you with 10 comments in a row. Pretty sharp. I don't wanna know who you are working for.

@Blue Jazz Already your 4th manipulation tactic. You are either a professional, or a psychopath. Was nice writing to you, it was fun.

@Blue Jazz Already your 4th manipulation tactic. You are either a professional, or a psychopath. Was nice writing to you, it was fun.

@Blue Jazz Who is "we"? You are such a great manipulator, trying to get others on your side. i am pretty impressed actually. Not bad at all. Just not good enough to manipulate me, I'm too much aware.

@Blue Jazz Now you switched tactics, bravo 👏 Attacking someone's whole persona is effective, similar to bullying. It's immoral behavior though.

@Blue Jazz There are more tactics to manipulate someone then just "guilt trip". You should have already switched tactics by now.

@Blue Jazz There are more tactics to manipulate someone then just "guilt trip". You should have already switched tactics by now.

@Blue Jazz Yeah, horrible me. I already told you that shame tactics don't work on me. I studied psychology. You are pretty good manipulating people though, gotta give you that. It just doesn't work on me.

@Blue Jazz Shame tactics, doesn't work with me. Nice try though.

@Blue Jazz Shame tactics, doesn't work with me. Nice try though.

@Blue Jazz Why would i effin care about myself if my loving parents were shot by burglars?! I would talk to the police immediately to help the investigation! I wouldn't talk to them if i had something to do with the crime. You are suggesting that so many innocent people land in jail. That's simply not true. Those guys are professionals.

@Blue Jazz Also you don't think about how you could be a suspect. You don't care, your parents were shot! You think how your loving parents were shot! And you try to do everything to help the police find the bastards who committed the crime.

@Blue Jazz What's your problem with cops? They are doing an excellent job. If you have nothing to hide you will not appear guilty. Of course you would want to try to help the police if your parents were shot by burglars. You wouldn't say i plead the fifth.

@Brilliant Beaches is exactly what a cop would say

@Brilliant Beaches is exactly what a cop would say

Always speak to cops without a lawyer, if you are innocent.

Always speak to cops without a lawyer, if you are innocent.

I hope everyone here saying, “don’t get a lawyer, you‘ll look suspicious“, will get interrogated by the police at some point in their lives and accused of a crime they didn’t commit.

Rakyma Johnson no, you look like you know your rights

Rakyma Johnson no, you look like you know your rights

@Luke Schalki Read the entire thread. You will see I did in fact start with a short and concise answer. It wasn’t until I was further accused of being “pathetic” and a “plagiarist” that I was forced to give an in depth explanation. When someone is publicly assassinating your character with false accusations and name calling, you tend to get defensive.

@Raising Cain bro don’t even listen to him man ur just speaking facts!! 🫂

@Raising Cain bro don’t even listen to him man ur just speaking facts!! 🫂

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden chill :)

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden chill :)

@HyperS Are you a new species of oxymoron troll or something?

@HyperS Are you a new species of oxymoron troll or something?

@Raising Cain Stealing someone else's youtube comment isn't plagiarism.

@Raising Cain Stealing someone else's youtube comment isn't plagiarism.

ALSO, don't be shitty parents. I feel bad for her.

ALSO, don't be shitty parents. I feel bad for her.

Zer0 PearL dude he didnt publish it so even if its true its free to be used anywhere

Zer0 PearL dude he didnt publish it so even if its true its free to be used anywhere

@Raising Cain yikes. I have never been near the law. Except for a couple of parking tickets but I hear you.

@Raising Cain yikes. I have never been near the law. Except for a couple of parking tickets but I hear you.

@Jinka1950 Telling you that “lawyering up” makes you look guilty is one of the oldest tricks in the book. Look at any interviews with retired investigators and they will 100% own up to that. They discourage representation because they know they hold all of the cards against you should you chose to willingly comply during questioning. I have never been arrested in my life, nor committed any crime. However, because of my interest in true crime, I know to never say a word without legal counsel present. CYA from the get-go, cause no one else will do that for you.

Why obtain a lawyer if one is innocent....not her, but me.....lawyering up develops suspicion....

Why obtain a lawyer if one is innocent....not her, but me.....lawyering up develops suspicion....

@Alex Lyons Absolutely not. There are overwhelming numbers of innocent people having been tricked during investigations. Don’t forget, the investigators’ sole purpose is to find someone guilty, NOW. They are not your friend and they have zero desire to “help you out.” A family member goes missing and some innocuous question like “Have you ever argued with that person before?” can lead to “Boom! Motive! Cuff’em and Stuff’em!” the moment you honestly reply “Yes.”

That's BS, you can speak to cops without a lawyer so long as you're innocent you don't have jack shit to worry about.

That's BS, you can speak to cops without a lawyer so long as you're innocent you don't have jack shit to worry about.

@Raising Cain It's OK. Denial is the first stage. Anybody with a working set of eyes and a brain will find this comment by "Evan Gelos" somewhere on the top of the comment section of the video "The Case of Lee Rodarte": "Never talk without your lawyer. Also, don’t kill people." But you keep pretending yours is very different and that you've never seen it before.

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden Still shorter than the amount you have posted on this thread. Also doesn’t change the fact you were proven wrong.

@Raising Cain Don't get too worked up about it. Didn't have to reply with a comment longer than a novel. It's normal these days to be fake. You are far from alone.

Ps, Thx for the mention of Lee Rodarte, I never heard about that case and it looks entertaining!

Ps, Thx for the mention of Lee Rodarte, I never heard about that case and it looks entertaining!

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden Chill dude, Its just a comment

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden Chill dude, Its just a comment

@Zer0 PearL Stealing someone's work is not cool. Doing it for likes makes it even more pathetic.

@Zer0 PearL Stealing someone's work is not cool. Doing it for likes makes it even more pathetic.

"The case of Lee Rodarte". A video uploaded by the same channel. 'Evan Gelos' posted the original comment and recieved 34k likes so far.

"The case of Lee Rodarte". A video uploaded by the same channel. 'Evan Gelos' posted the original comment and recieved 34k likes so far.

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden u gotta be so sad to reply for it even if it were true

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden u gotta be so sad to reply for it even if it were true

@Hair sniffing advisor to President Joe Biden Whose comment did I copy? I just scrolled through several dozen comments and don’t see anything even remotely close to my comment.


I've seen this footage before, but the additional insight surrounding psychology and behavior really highlights a lot that I did not notice before. Thanks JCS. This is what makes you way more interesting than typical true-crime media.

theres way more once u watch it a second and or a third time. I started noticing where she looks and the volume of her voice more than anything else.

@Some one I meant full-scale. Just mistranslated, lol.

@Hey hoe  What is "Whole-Scale" Science?  And I think "Bad Parenting already falls under the scope of Social Science (which entails pretty much everything about us) even though people working at all levels of society are failing young children and are complicit in Child Abuse, in ways the majority can't or won't see or understand, because it would likely be too overwhelming.

@Some one Bad parenting nowdays may be turned into the whole-scale science.

Nunnles It doesn’t justify it one bit. Whether or not her parents had high expectations, the crime is equally wrong.

@Nunnles The problem is people pick and choose when it's justified I rather say she was too feeble she cracked when others didn't.

Some one Are you trying to somewhat justify what Jennifer did by saying her parents were too strict? They gave her the option to do what she wanted, and she resorted to murdering them. It sucks that she had to live like with harsh expectations like that, but that’s no excuse to kill your parents.

Dude, it's all bias by people who can't or won't recognize they are responsible for torturing children!  The presentation isn't good, it's more proof how messed up humanity is.


Crazy how not having a knee injury could’ve saved all of this

Crazy how not having a knee injury could’ve saved all of this

definitely not just the knee injury, but maybe yeah.. but other people have been through very similar things and didn't end up being murderers

don't forget about not rejecting someone from art school, it is really important

don't forget about not rejecting someone from art school, it is really important

@Dodgy Dolphin agreed but from what I understand, they weren't too much on her back about school at first bc she was great at skating, so I'd say it triggered the big downfall even if it's not the only trigger

@Lilo A nah thats victim blaming.
Crazy how if she wouldve just moved back with her boyfriend this wouldntve happened.
Crazy how if she never met her bf this never wouldve happened.
Crazy how if she hadnt tried to have her parents murdered this wouldntve happened.
The list goes on and on but it is no way the parents fault, many kids have strict parent and still they dont murder them.

Its possible she got the injury in the first place because she pushed herself too hard as a result of  pressure from her parents, so it comes full circle

Not exactly. It could've saved her parents but if she's the kind of person to do this who's to say someone else doesn't end up receiving her wrath. Or who's to say she doesn't get fed up with her parents as the pressure of being a perfect athlete intensifies. You never know. You can only go off of what you do know. What we know is she basically killed her parents. I'm not a betting man but I'd bet she'd probably do the same or similar.

Wait maybe I haven't noticed the detail from the video... but how did the knee injury lead to this?

Wait maybe I haven't noticed the detail from the video... but how did the knee injury lead to this?

not the injury, but how her parents responded and also her disposition. not everyone who loses a dream murders lol

not the injury, but how her parents responded and also her disposition. not everyone who loses a dream murders lol

And if only Hitler would have been admitted to artschool..

And if only Hitler would have been admitted to artschool..

Crazy how not bringing dumb communists ideas from the country you originated from could have avoided all of this.

Crazy how not bringing dumb communists ideas from the country you originated from could have avoided all of this.

So many people have parents like this and don't kill them. So many people have injuries that destroy possibly future careers and don't try to kill people over it

Don't think so. She said she wasn't in the top pack of the skaters and that she was just average ... so basically she wasn't going to go nowhere with her skating career

@Tekape I do not concur.  It was a confluence of factors.  If her parents had not put impossible demands on her, like a University education, when she couldn't even finish high school, it would of led to a different outcome.   Murder wasn't a foregone conclusion.

@Alex Bozanich no i think its the snowball effect

@Alex Bozanich no i think its the snowball effect

@Steel Steez 🎃 okay, I know you could do better...

@Steel Steez 🎃 okay, I know you could do better...

@Fili Ortegy Oh god! You mean jodi was right?!

@Fili Ortegy Oh god! You mean jodi was right?!

Kind of like Hitler not getting into art school

Kind of like Hitler not getting into art school

So. Ummmm. Apparently I’m a Karen. Y doe?

So. Ummmm. Apparently I’m a Karen. Y doe?

Same thing with how if hitler got into the art class that he wanted to go to. There wouldn’t be a world war ||

Same thing with how if hitler got into the art class that he wanted to go to. There wouldn’t be a world war ||

@Dodgy Dolphin I know, I was agreeing with you in a qualified manner.

@Dodgy Dolphin I know, I was agreeing with you in a qualified manner.

@red88alert What you just said is crazy to me. Discipline plays a huge part in how somebody turns out, sure. It's 100% not the defining factor though, as you said.

Plenty of serial killer grew up in a decent loving home, they were disciplined what some would say is optimally and they get good grades. Get a good career, then kill a few people.

If you know exactly how to discipline someone in their younger years to guarantee they never meet the wrong people or are never in the wrong situation, please, we all want to hear it.

@The Mecoptera again that's exactly what I said. Read the comment again and please take into account the first part is sarcasm.

@Dodgy Dolphin the only people responsible for the crime are the people who committed it.

A broken leg, bad parenting, influence of her boyfriend, all certainty contributed, but there she is a moral actor not a murderous robot trained to kill.

Bad parenting didn’t kill the parents here, perhaps but for bad parenting they might still be alive, but by the same coin but for a broken leg they might still be alive as well as perhaps she could have been an Olympian skater. In truth however many people have unreasonable expectations placed upon them by their parents and don’t commit murder. So it’s not a forgone conclusion.

i’ve been skating for about a year, but having a knee injury would wreck me. i get how devastating it could have been but of course murder is never the answer

@Tanaphar Plus Masks well  it is said that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. I think whoever said that was just being sarcastic though ;)

@POW3RUP I'm confused about what some people are missing with what I said. I said exactly what you've just said. There would have to be a ton of other factors involved to get to that point. Not just a knee injury. Did you mean to tag the person who made the original comment?

The part where I mention "crazy how" is sarcasm in relation to the comment I was responding too. Looks like I need to spell that out in future.

@Dodgy Dolphin not to say that you're wrong not at all

@Dodgy Dolphin not to say that you're wrong not at all

@Dodgy Dolphin she was living up to the expectations of her parents and ice skating so with no need to kill them or lie to them or lead up to the point that she was deceiving high School report cards etc it was no point to killing them

@mill I was just thinking that last night SMH

@mill I was just thinking that last night SMH

@Jason Kim you have a point too. If it weren’t for all the pressure her parents gave her, she may wouldn’t got that injury and things that happened to her life. So yeah the parents are truly the one to blame for all of this

Same thing with Hitler, if he was accepted into art college a whole bunch of people wouldn’t be dead

Same thing with Hitler, if he was accepted into art college a whole bunch of people wouldn’t be dead

@Nathan Swain if she hadn’t got that knee injury, she would’ve avoided all those things she’s done. And maybe she got very successful at skating if it weren’t for that injury

@Fili Ortegy aww man i was gonna comment that 😂🤣

@Fili Ortegy aww man i was gonna comment that 😂🤣

@Bunille he literally had nothing to do with it. They weren’t even dating at the time of the murder, he had a different girlfriend.

Crazy how not having a druggy black market boyfriend could've saved all of this.

Crazy how not having a druggy black market boyfriend could've saved all of this.

No no no she was clearly a certain type of person and while she might never have done this kinda thing her life would likely have been the same in terms of relationships with men and family. Clearly she was intelligent but used it to manipulate people very well and got off on that. A sociopath is a sociopath

@Kaiya Andrews expecting your child not to lie about graduating high school and not to take an entire double life isn’t treating them like a robot so I don’t know what you’re referring to

Or like, not treating your kids like robots and more like children. Idk just a thought

Or like, not treating your kids like robots and more like children. Idk just a thought

@Shizlgizl She faked graduating high school. Faked attending college. Faked getting into a university program. Faked then getting an internship at a hospital. And then when it was revealed that she had been lying about every aspect of her life over the past 6 years, her mother fought for her to stay. Her father wanted her to leave, because at this point she’s an adult whose been a pathological liar for years. And yet her mother convinced her father to let Jennifer continue living with them. And mom was the one who ended up dead. Look into the case more before you try to take all responsibility away from this ADULT woman. This episode leaves a lot of detail out.

@Chance I feel old now. Knowing exactly who she is. Lol

@Chance I feel old now. Knowing exactly who she is. Lol

Knee injury? I think parents played the biggest role, here. If you push people too hard you can break them, or push them in directions you didn't intend to.

@Dodgy Dolphin there is always something that could happen... It's not a solid argument. In my opinion both their attitude to her as well as knee injury contributed to this tragedy. But that's the whole puzzle. There are always many pieces. The thing is, each and every those can be the straw that broke the camel's back.

@Fili Ortegy ha, exactly man. And some person told me in a comment under different video that "humans are not some particles in a liquid or gas in atmosphere and the butterfly effect doesn't relate to them" when I was making similar point few days ago 😂 lack of imagination and naivety among people is incredible.<br>Some of them think they live in a save and orderly place 😐

@Fili Ortegy ha, exactly man. And some person told me in a comment under different video that "humans are not some particles in a liquid or gas in atmosphere and the butterfly effect doesn't relate to them" when I was making similar point few days ago 😂 lack of imagination and naivety among people is incredible.
Some of them think they live in a save and orderly place 😐

@Lilo A Her parents were the LITERAL stereotype of Asian parents. except stricter.

@Lilo A Her parents were the LITERAL stereotype of Asian parents. except stricter.

IF I was her, i wouldn't resort to killing them.. Sure i'd get famous somehow, but denounce them as my parents.. They were the type to See an "A-" and say "YOU FAIL!!!" These types of parents leads their kids to party in their college years and end up doing bad things then.  SURE, your kids should get good grades, but don't demand, and force them to get STRAIGHT A's.. or join the honor's program, and AP classes. But all in all i would despise these parents in the future as well. they caused all this to happen basically.

@Dodgy Dolphin  No, no it's not. What you meant and what you said are very different things. I explained things out. You didn't even mention the butterfly effect, and made it out to be solely on her as well, when it wasn't.

@Kalypso you've just said exactly what I said.

@Kalypso you've just said exactly what I said.

@Dodgy Dolphin   It's what's called the 'Butterfly Effect'. As stated by someone already. Her parents were downright abusively strict, which is the true start to all of this. Yes, if she never got the knee injury, this never would have happened, but it's how the parents acted is why all of this happened. Pushing someone until they break is never pretty, and there was only one real way this could have ended if things didn't go perfect. The Butterfly Effect, or Chaos Theory as it's also known, is the belief that small events can cause  something with significantly larger consequences. Yes she chose to do this, but having come from a rather mentally abusive household it's not too surprising. This could break anyone into doing shit like this. In fact, that's how a lot of serial killers start.

Crazy how Hitler getting into art school could've averted WWII

Crazy how Hitler getting into art school could've averted WWII

@Analog Scrotum well you can most certainly not say that it was a cause for his later actions... All we can say is that this tragedy could've maybe maybe maybe been avoided, had Hitler been accepted into art school...

@Kenny Groundhopper Maybe she just wasn't confident at the time.

@Kenny Groundhopper Maybe she just wasn't confident at the time.

Yeah, it's kinda like how people say Hitler failing art school caused his later actions.

Yeah, it's kinda like how people say Hitler failing art school caused his later actions.

@HYP3R-SYSTEMS×超 I always pondered the literal fascism angle too. Seeing those miniature Mussolini statues by the entrance every day could drive anybody insane.

Even crazier is not having literal fascist parents making you an exhausted robot with extreme resentment and hate..

Even crazier is not having literal fascist parents making you an exhausted robot with extreme resentment and hate..

Well shit... You might be right you know 😮

Well shit... You might be right you know 😮

crazy how if her parents weren’t as strict could’ve changed all this

crazy how if her parents weren’t as strict could’ve changed all this

@Fili Ortegy Damn the butterfly is in more of an effect than we realize if we think about each action just like this one.

It's amasing, how 'cause and effect' has no meaning for some in this world and if it does then it is primitively basic, to say the least!

Crazy how not expecting unreasonable things from people just because you want to look good could've saved all of this.
My point is that there are many factors here, a knee injury didn't kill her parents and neither did their attitudes to her.
Even if she didn't have the knee injury a lot of other things could've happened which still lead to this scenario.


I wonder how much different her life would have panned out had she only never injured her knee. Her relationship with her parents, her self esteem, mental health, schooling, college, and more. Would we be watching her Olympic performance instead of her interrogation tapes?

@jane doe yeah they don't kill them 'cause we're all different, we all react in a different way

@jane doe yeah they don't kill them 'cause we're all different, we all react in a different way

@Candela Frachia Reacting that kind of way is just psychotic, how did she ever expect that plan to even work. Most people would either try harder or switch majors or try to find a compromise with their family.

They're can be a parallel universe of where she never injured her knee and had a perfectly good and normal life.

They're can be a parallel universe of where she never injured her knee and had a perfectly good and normal life.

Its all knees fault. This is the main reason I am protesting knees!! Knees caused all of this!!

Its all knees fault. This is the main reason I am protesting knees!! Knees caused all of this!!

Down the line we would be watching her interrogation tapes because of something else, the girl is unstable.

Down the line we would be watching her interrogation tapes because of something else, the girl is unstable.

@John Cheves I think she would just because even though she was an amazing figure skater not everyone gets to be in the Olympics (highest level of greatness). When she didn’t get in (since thousands try and hundreds would’ve still been better then her) she would’ve pretended to still skate and kill them anyway.

She probably wouldn't have wound up a murderer, but she likely still would have been a selfish, deceitful liar. Most people simply would not be capable of pulling off such a complex web of lies, regardless of how badly they wanted to. They just wouldn't have it in them.

She seems like a sociopath who became what she is as a defense mechanism in order to deal with being constantly beaten down by her domineering, oppressive parents.

Oh my opinion it wouldn’t have changed anything. She still would’ve had resentment for them having them do figure skating, and she still would’ve dropped out from high school and met the guy. She would’ve still done what she did I think.

It takes an evil person to do what she did, she’d have still been evil 🤷🏻♀

It takes an evil person to do what she did, she’d have still been evil 🤷🏻♀

A completely alternate universe. Only separated by a tiny little inconvenience...insane.

A completely alternate universe. Only separated by a tiny little inconvenience...insane.

Lol, "I used to be a promising girl but then I took an arrow in the knee"

Lol, "I used to be a promising girl but then I took an arrow in the knee"

She would have been an anime protagonist ^^

She would have been an anime protagonist ^^

@Debbie Allen THIS. Crazy is crazy. Their crazy has very little to do with anyone else.

@Debbie Allen THIS. Crazy is crazy. Their crazy has very little to do with anyone else.

@Mmartinz fraxx A persons actions have nothing to do with anyone other than themselves. Plenty of overprotective, overbearing, tiger parents in every ethnicity, their kids don’t kill them. She could have left her family home. She wanted their money. It’s all shared right before the 3 minute mark.

@Mmartinz fraxx again, no matter how bad a parent is, leaving and moving on with life should be the only choice (unless the parents are dangerous then police should be 100% involved) but i just don’t think no matter how harsh or strict they were that ever in a million years that they should be harmed in any way. their daughter had some serious issues unrelated to them just having high expectations

In the good timeline - yup. We're in the bad timeline right now where the olympic skater turned to murderer.

In the good timeline - yup. We're in the bad timeline right now where the olympic skater turned to murderer.

@Sozl *did well in school.

Did good in school would be the grammar of someone who didn’t do well in school.

@Sozl *did well in school.

Did good in school would be the grammar of someone who didn’t do well in school.

@Al-Rawi علي الراوي we are not only talking about "the enjoyment of their childhood", we are talking about their health, their mental health. and i can assure you it's not their childhood, it's their teenage years and their youth when they are going to feel like hell.

Makes sense. After a knee and shoulder injury, I got depressed and got into some bad stuff. Friends and family got me out of that bad time in my life. Unfortunately, she didn't have anyone to give her support except her drug dealing boyfriend.

I feel like she may have even done it on purpose

I feel like she may have even done it on purpose

You can’t fix stupid. Stupid will eventually show its true colors, just might have been delayed.

You can’t fix stupid. Stupid will eventually show its true colors, just might have been delayed.

@Debbie Allen perhaps, but that would only be a temporary solution, so she could also opt to do the same as she did now if she had the same connections

@Al-Rawi علي الراوي so you put being successful over the well being of those who you claim to love? doesn't sound that good.

@Al-Rawi علي الراوي so you put being successful over the well being of those who you claim to love? doesn't sound that good.

@Shawn well, you clearly don't understand the root of all of this. asian countries have such cultures bc political leaders wanted the country to "progress", take korea as an example. their closed mindsets and patriarchal structure is reflected in every little aspect of their lives, and even though it did indeed help improve the country/population (probably the reason why they are so clean, respectful and generally not violent) the side effects are highest suicide rates in the world, minorities being opressed and mental health issues being totally ignored. although it might seem on the surface it's just their parents wanting them to be better, it is not.

Its like the butterfly effect if that incident didn't happen (I mean her knee) her life could've been completely different

Its like the butterfly effect if that incident didn't happen (I mean her knee) her life could've been completely different

@Mmartinz fraxx it’s not that they didn’t want her to be happy imo, it’s that they wanted her to be as successful as she could be so she could have the means to be happy and do what she wanted in the future. that’s how asian parents think. they want you to be happy later, when it matters the most. it’s harsh, yes, but it’s our culture.

btw, for context, this is coming from someone raised in a strict east asian household (my mom is korean, my dad chinese, both immigrants). my aunt is estranged to us because my grandfather was perhaps too harsh on her with his expectations. in highschool, i was diagnosed with depression and anxiety (not because of them, because a good friend passed), and that’s when my parents realized that they had to let up on how they were parenting me when my grades started to slip

@kiaraa agreed. it’s cultural, purely. this kind of parenting has been passed down for generations. heck, i’ve never even cussed in front of my parents. we constantly worry about disappointing them because we feel like the most important thing is to make them proud. they’re harsh at times, but in my opinion they do more they can in regards to our futures than any other parents do, even if it costs them an arm and a leg, and because they put so much effort in, they expect that effort in return. it is harsh, a lot of asian parents don’t say “i love you” or verbally express their love, they do other things to show it, like cutting fruit, cooking food, and giving us money for good behavior.

as much as i can understand how much her parents’ actions hurt her, and i can definitely understand how harsh authoritarian parenting can be, it’s our culture, and the aim is to push success (especially with immigrant parents who came to the country with nothing), they expect the same amount of hard work as they put in to have a good life

@Petra If my parents were like hers,my spirits would be so broken..emotionally scarred..i'd feel hopeless and useless.I wouldnt have that drive to do better coz it will never be good enough.I woud move out though..not the grim path she chose.Very sad....

@Shawn Except a lot of the times it doesnt work that way.Now,i understand the "they only want the best for you" etc.We all want that for our children.But when you have parents like hers (hitler) who says shes not good enough..shes not allowed to do this or that etc..Shes bound to explode.When she fell inlove,its probably the only times she felt love and wanted..and rightly so,who doesnt want that? Ppl can say whatever about her bf but she felt loved.She could have just moved out.She was  already an adult.Its OK to be strict sometimes but too much is not always good.Shes human too! Killing someone is never the answer.I do understand why she constantly lied though..She wanted a lil freedom like any
normal adult do.

@Candela Frachia the thing is, asian parents were expected the same thing from their parents and were successful about doing said thing. this creates the idea in their head that their child is capable of doing the same thing because they themselves were able to do it. it’s a real expectation. my late grandfather made me promise him that i’d become a doctor..

Maybe her family members are all govt. crisis actors? Plan A was to create some distraction at the Winter Olympics, but the knee injury implemented Plan B... prep for gun control measures.

Interesting take, but I feel that's ignoring other familial issues that were probably already going on when she was 14 and got injured.

the sad thing is that they probably wouldn't have cared; she said herself that she was pretty average, in their eyes she would never be good enough. and her self-esteem would still be horrible, having it rely on her achievements instead of who she was.<br>i sympathize with her circumstances, not her actions

the sad thing is that they probably wouldn't have cared; she said herself that she was pretty average, in their eyes she would never be good enough. and her self-esteem would still be horrible, having it rely on her achievements instead of who she was.
i sympathize with her circumstances, not her actions

yeah thats what caused this... <b>fucking eye roll till i pass out</b>

yeah thats what caused this... *fucking eye roll till i pass out*

@Shawn You do realise that you just watched a video about a girl with strict Asian parents, who did go astray, ended up trying to murder both of them, ruined her life and went to prison, right?

Definitely! U see how she could fall for anything to get what she really wants

Definitely! U see how she could fall for anything to get what she really wants

@Shawn(sorry for the upcoming rant but) as an asian myself, i would suggest no one to ever experience it but i can see your point somewhat. sure, it could "push you to your limits to become the best and guide you to not do bad stuff" but it could go too much over the limits. i would say you really dont know until youve actually experienced it for yourself. the amount of people around me that have mental illnesses bc of their parents are really not a small amount and its crazy. in asian culture, i would say that parents deprive their kids of love & attention so there are actually kids that go astray bc of this also, so its not guaranteed + they are not good at expressing their apologies as well so their kids will grow up to not be able to easily apologise or express affection. & there are actually a lot of asian parents that are really toxic as well & living with them 24/7 can be really detrimental to your mental health as well. but going by what you said, its the sacrifice of having a parent-child relationship & your mental health in return for you "not going down a bad path" which is honestly to me, stupid, bc there are so many other ways to do that other than that

Not sure, since well... When not succeeding, she first decided to fake it? Normal children can drown in low self-esteem, or hate their parents openly, or do whatever. But she, as a criminal she is, ultimately decided to live a double-life while sucking her parents money. And when they refused, she decided to kill them for money instead of finding some job that she liked. So even without injured knee, of something went wrong in the Olympics, we would probably see some huge case of breaking the rules of killing off your competitors...

@Candela Frachia True.

This is such a tragedy.

@Candela Frachia True.

This is such a tragedy.

@Ran Ma i see :( btw i'm not asian so i don't claim to really know how that feels, but i think anyone that has experienced something similar can understand it

@Candela Frachia I think in cases like this, the stress is dismissed and the child is expected to endure. I'm Southeast Asian and come from a traditional Asian family, but my parents weren't this strict. However my mom would sometimes make comments like, "You got a 95. Why not 100?"

@sweetblackblood1 You're assuming her parents would listen. There's no point to a discussion(Assuming if there's a discussion to begin with instead of being scolded right off the bat) if the opposition is completely deaf. Over the history of dynasties of China, complete obedience to your parents have always been extremely important. Disagreeing with them would deem you as disobedient. And well, culture gets passed down till now, so they are still a lot of parents who demands respect whether or not if they deserve it. I think this culture is slowly decaying so that's good, but there still is. It's just a matter of time before a person snaps under pressure, injured knees is just an event which triggered the fire. The main reason is and will always because of her parents. Except the difference is how violently do you react to it, some may run away from home, and some would be too extreme like in this case.

Having such critical parents the outcome would have likely been the same. Whether it was at age 24, 34, or 44.

Having such critical parents the outcome would have likely been the same. Whether it was at age 24, 34, or 44.

@cailin ward could be a cultural thing but a parent wants what makes its child happy not what makes them happy. She obviously did a terrible choice i'm not justifying her i'm only saying this wouldn't have happened if they wouldn't have been so selfish too

@Mmartinz fraxx her parents had way too high of expectations, i believe that’s a common cultural thing. no matter what though, this was wrong. if she didn’t want to live the life her parents expected, she should’ve accepted the second option her parents gave her (because she clearly didn’t want anything to do with them, since she obviously wanted them murdered) and she should’ve just gotten a job and worked for money like any normal human being.

@Candela Frachia sorry I’m butting in, but I’m an East Asian person living in the U.S as of now. My parents both grew up in japan but they’re both pretty liberal. They told me that I can invest my time in whatever if I try my best. I guess they’re both a very tough love kind of people so I know what’s right and what’s wrong. I did good in school because I wanted to make them feel proud that they raised a good kid, not because they pressured me in any way. I’ve gotten failing grades on tests but they just told me “now youll always remember what you got wrong, ganbare! (Do your best)”<br>So I also agree with you. Being this overly strict will only cause your kids to develop a guilt-related feeling towards school and grades instead of focusing on improving they only focus on passing and getting As. This shouldn’t be what school is about (though it sadly is).

@Candela Frachia sorry I’m butting in, but I’m an East Asian person living in the U.S as of now. My parents both grew up in japan but they’re both pretty liberal. They told me that I can invest my time in whatever if I try my best. I guess they’re both a very tough love kind of people so I know what’s right and what’s wrong. I did good in school because I wanted to make them feel proud that they raised a good kid, not because they pressured me in any way. I’ve gotten failing grades on tests but they just told me “now youll always remember what you got wrong, ganbare! (Do your best)”
So I also agree with you. Being this overly strict will only cause your kids to develop a guilt-related feeling towards school and grades instead of focusing on improving they only focus on passing and getting As. This shouldn’t be what school is about (though it sadly is).

@kiaraa there's something i can't get abt that argument tho ... i know cultural differences are a big deal but as a parent, knowing how stressful and awful it is to be put in that situation (since you've been there too) wouldn't you at least go a little easier on your kids?

not her knee but maybe not being strict to the point of your children fearing your reaction so much they have to fake their whole student life. personally been thru something way lighter and the amount of stress and sorrow it has caused me is absolutely awful. yeah I'm not justifying anything, she's a disgusting person.

@Mmartinz fraxx im not defending their actions but as an asian, it is our culture, I don't like it but I cant change how my parents are, her parents probably learnt this behaviour from their parents. i hate this culture that we have but I'm just saying, if you were her parents you would probably have a different view on whether their parenting was logical or not, for us its normal (not ideal) , for you its not. they wouldn't hv realised they were doing anything wrong.

A<br>it would turn out the same. really, it's not that difficult. it will all play out the same HAD THEY not discussed about it. the parents would have focused more on her academic studies and she would take it like the sheep she is with no retaliation. but if they sat down and discussed their issues as a family should, none of this would happened, with injured knees or not.

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it would turn out the same. really, it's not that difficult. it will all play out the same HAD THEY not discussed about it. the parents would have focused more on her academic studies and she would take it like the sheep she is with no retaliation. but if they sat down and discussed their issues as a family should, none of this would happened, with injured knees or not.