They kinda did idw comics made a 5 issues. Fiendship is magic each issue told the origins of chrysalis, tirek, nightmare moon, the dazzlings (though in season 7 and in the legends of magic idw comics changed the sirens origins) and king sombra
Idk the story was originally supposed to be more slice of life with the villians as performance pieces for the start and end of the season respectively. Episodes hyper focused on specific character lore especially performance characters like villians really don't fit the shows intended themes.
@Cinnamon Drops i haven't seen that one yet or even heard about it until now but the comic is a good start . A whole special episode or movie would be much more epic though lol
@Kazuya Kami There was that fan animation about the idea the Sombra we know killed the good Sombra and stole his body. Evil being in a book that Sombra was looking up to bring his parents back I think. The actual origins for Sombra from the comics though have him at some point born outside the Empire. He was a Shadow Pony called an Umbrum and his mother, from a red crystal had him changed into a pony and left to be found so he would eventually be manipulated by her to destroy the Empire and free his kind so they could take over. He eventually succeeds 1000 years later after round 2 but realizes he was used after his marefriend revealed everything and he pretty much sacrificed himself to undo everything he did only to be saved and pardon by all 4 princesses at the time,(Flurry wasn't even born yet or an idea as far as we know. Heck Starlight hadn't even appeared yet.)
I feel like Going to seed and Trivia Pursuit should have been scrapped. An Hasbro should have made a 2 parter episode explaining each villian back story.
There are some comics called Fiendship is Magic where thats explained. Im not sure if theyre completely canon, but they sure are interesting; the one Ive read is Chrysalis', but not the others.
They did it in the comics... but that's one of those things that like with all good faery tales, be careful what you wish for.
I was sorely disappointed with the queen of the changelings', fet the whole changeling race's origins... Comics seem to take the "Stuff in a magic bucket with magical properties makes magical things accidently magical magic into existence." Approach...
@Princess Starlaixy Arixes I have read it and it says that a magical red stone took over him and that’s how he got his powers and he destroyed princess 👸 amora
i whould love to see that nobody is evil for evil's sake they have a reson as sawtooth explained in a video so then how did most of these villians come to be?
Yeah like Cozy Glow we have no idea what happened to her and I’d like to see more of Starlight and Sunburst and what happened to Starlight after he left (not the enslaving a town part) like I also want to know how she got HER cutie mark
Well we know tirek origin he want to take revenge on the pony for taking his brother and put him in tartarus which is a bad idea because villains always wants revenge
Discord is literally God he could have destroyed the elements and removed luna and celestias magic and nothing could stop him... but the friendship is magic... well discord is God he can destroy the tree and let tirek loose and make tirek take there magic but tirek could fight back but what would discord do... either discord knows he could do this but doesn't want to can't or was gonna do that but don't get on the bad side of discord...
@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 queen crysalis litteraly forced thorax to be something no someone thorax wasn't I don't think you would wanna be with someone who would do that crystalis wasn't helping thorax lier
@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 The filly from season eight who literally almost destroyed the world and worked with Lord Tirek to do it. She also reappears in Season Nine as one of the three main antagonists.
The community isn't big anymore and a movie based on a G4 villan wouldn't do well compared to G5 but yeah that would be great. Backstories on all the villans would be cool. There's much more they could have done with G4.
@glazer valoria I don’t think you get it, a cutie mark’s purpose is to tell you your destiny. Sombra has no cutie mark, so that means he technically doesn’t have a destiny- and in a way, a future.
“ (the fashion pony from the mane six)” if you know enough to call them the mane six you should know that on this channel you never need to add that or even call her the fashion pony, I would say the other unicorn lol
@Fantasy-Artist good point. I think perhaps it also could have been sucked into the amulet too, leaving him with only one type of magic left- the shadow magic. Perhaps that was the true death of king cobalt and the birth of king sombra. He's always felt like he was less than a true satient and thought driven pony, more instinctual, like a ghost in a shell. "Cryyyyysssstaaalls" amirite? He would have become more shadow than pony if that was what had happened, and it kind of makes sense.
I have a theory that, when Sombra cast the spell to make him an alicorn, it removed his cutie mark. The spell blackened his soul and his entire destiny changed, leaving him cutie mark-less.
I thought he didn't have a cutie mark because Star Swirl took away his magic, like when Celestia, Luna and Cadence gave their magic to Twilight so Tirek couldn't steal it, their cutie marks disappeared.
@solitary jewel You're right, he doesn't have a cutiemark bc he's not a pony but an umbrum with pony appearance He was a umbrum when younger but when the other umbrums "turned" him into a filly he forgot everything and basically lived as an orphan in the crystal empire thinking he was a pony until he realized what he was aaand, well the story is too long for a single comment lol but everything is in the comics, they sadly didn't include everything in the show! Sombra is a very cool character with a interesting history :)
Mlp underused so many things. Species that only had one episode like Diamond dogs, Buffalo, kirins, etc. We only got to see ONE zebra. And I think giraffes should have had a culture of their own...
@Izabella YT TV I just wish they respected his character more, and recasted his original voice actor too, I didn't like the new one, he was much less menacing than the first voice actor
@Wishing Star not really sorry, i started that au when i was like 8 (17 now) so most of it is on paper or in my head i am thinking about making a youtube series about tho. If you want i can tell you about it over discord
He showed up twice, the first time he was a deep-voiced Asshole who just shouted about crystals. The second time he acted like a bratty 8-year-old to all other villains and got his face melted off.
My friends have better idea about Sombra. King Sombra and Princess Cadence rules of Crystal Empire but one day Sombra is corrupted by dark magic and this dark magic makes him hate Cadence. He wants to destroy her. Destroy, not kill. He wants her to watch how he destroys her ponies life and he creates a nightmares in crystal ponies dreams.
@Raximus3000 I thought you meant you were disappointed with the comic version too. The sentence was kind of vague, IMO. Sorry for misreading you there.
I agree, he is one of the most powerful villains. Even in the beginning of the end episode sombra was on there for 1 scene, isn't he also one of the unreformed villains? And he was always my favourite
How come Sombra got vaporized three times and came back at least two of three times? Perhaps this leaves room for him to continue randomly popping up in times of tragedy
The two Best parts of the whole video in my opinion “Well till A chaos god warping as a dead goat brought him back so he Could troll his friends but you get the picture!” “ I am sawtooth waves signing off until Friday after next bro-“ “sawtooth!” “Excuse me” “Right king sawtooth” “That’s better now what is it this time Braeburn” “You darn Eaten all of our apples, this here is the last one I’ll give it to you if you take off your amulet” “Ugh whatever just give me the Apple”
The worst thing that can happen: Well till a god warping as a dead * one second add *. Goat brought back to troll his friends. Me if it would have happened: Dead add goat or just dead goat I’m confused
I was confused when I first saw him in the Crystal empire episode. No lines, no small details, it was almost like he was just a part of the smoke. It was pretty confusing but thanks Sawtooth
it would make sense if the comics " origins " [ Sombra version ] " siege of the crystal empire " happened in between mlp and twilight in the last episode
@Chanakya Verpula yeah! It would and more depth to his character. I personally think that an event as huge as a king turning into a ailcorn and going evil, would be at least mentioned, even if it was just a random quote. So this is just coming out of left field
@Cupcake Prime yeah . If the story of the comics that i told happened after mlp then sombra would have a good arc and be reformed at the same time without worrying about him being released. His character arc would be like zuko in avatar the last Airbender
@Cupcake Prime no not literally. I meant that the first song in the soundtrack started to play in my mind when I read this comment and is still going on
In my opinion, they should've dived deeper into his origin and see what corrupted him, making the viewers attached to him, the design of king sombra is great, but, i think, as the king of shadows, they should've made his design more nightmare fuel to not only strike terror into the ponies hearts but ours too, and like someone has said already in this comment, make him more badass... now thats, the GREATEST villain equestria will ever have, but sombra also needs his redemption arc and to be reformed
I love how this guy never discounts anything. Even when he says that the shadow form is not a special race, he says that it is still possible, but we just have no evidence.
This was incredible! I couldn’t agree more, this is very likely to have actually been intended to be the plot. I never would have thought of this. Good job :)👍🏻
The fact about sombra being dead is false. The crystal heart might have used its power to banish him once more. We did see sombra, tirek and queen chrysalis. So sombra couldnt have possibly gone in season 3, He went in season 9 posssibly. Or the mane 6 may have faced them again between the time period of twilights cornation. The entire series is so confusing among these theories.
King Sombra could of been an amazing villain and was underused, I want more about it and like how in the comics they had him. He is my all time favorite pony and I love him.
@TheOnlySafa Taken out the comics I get an explanition of why sombra doesn t have a cutie mark. When the princess give their magic to Twillight their cutie marks dessapear
if you watch season 9 when sombra destroy's the tree of harmony his cape blows and no scars so yeah sombra is powerful he can''t get hurt by those ponies or creatures
Okey now i have a very weak explanition of Sombra's cutiemark. As we know there are types of Magic. Unicorn magic, pegasus magic, earth pony magic and... In the show a cutie mark is a mysterious simbol that can even tell the destiny of some pony. In my head canon the cutie marks are magic that are stongly related with some pony talent.
Maybe Starwirl not only toke Sombra's pegasus and earth pony magic. Also toke away his cutiemark.
It can be, when in the show Starlight stole Twillight cutiemark she can continue use magic in a lower level.That will explain why the alicorn amulet give knolege of powerfull spells and a great hability to Magic, because there is Sombra's cutiemark.
@「 • 🍁 Fumiko... 🍁 • 」 ya thats because she was actually a pegasus so she just turned back into what she was before afyer she got defeated btw her name is cozy glow not cg
Pft, I just rambled on the other Sombra video about his potential backstory and was slapped in the face with how well this one brought it all together 🤣 By the way, your music is phenomenal!
But what about the comic? The one about his backstory? Doesn't it say he's an umbrum and explain exactly why he is the way he is? And there are unicorn and Pegasus crystal ponies, radiant hope and princess amore were both unicorns
@♡︎Cinnamon♡︎ princess amore, not cadence. Princess amore only appeared in the comics, and she was only a unicorn, never an alicorn. she lived long ago back when umbra made his very first appearance
Sarah Potter2020-11-12 16:16:36 (edited 2020-12-02 05:02:03 )
Ok, when i imagine somba's voice, its never his canon one, its always the one from 'The fall of the crystal empire.' It's way darker and sounds exactly how i picture him. ( great vid btw, go check it out.)
This doesnt match the thing u said in that one vid titled "THE TRUTH ABOUT STAR SWIRL" where u said he invented alicorns and experimented on Celestia and Luna.
I also think based on the time period you placed King Cobalt in it could be possible that Cobalt’s father is Starswirl. Sombra looks like he could’ve been a black or gray pony which matches starswirl . Starswirl is clearly old enough to probably be around his late 80s (I’m assuming), therefore Cobalt was born around the time Starswirl was in his Middle Ages, or around his early 30s. It also makes sense magically. Sombra(Cobalt) and Starswirl both have about the same magical ability.Starswirl can trap people in limbo, and Sombra can make entire nations disappear. Just saying, that would make a great plot twist, and it has evidence to support it, so maybe you could do a theory on that.
This all fits well, though there's one thing I notice - when Trixie put on the amulet she gained the magic that was in it, but she stayed a unicorn. If your theoru on how ponies become alicorns is true, then shouldn't any pony become one upon wearing the amulet if all 3 kinds of pony magic are in it, and revert back to their base form upon taking it off?
I just read the wiki about the founders of Equestria, and it was said that Princess Platinum's father was not Sombra, but a unicorn named King Bullion. I don't know if this canon or not since its very anonimous in the series. But if it was canon, than Sawtooth's theory about Sombra needs to be updated.
Nicely done! I really like this theory, although sadly it's debunked by Journal of the Two Sisters since the king is actually called King Bullion and he is Princess Platinum's father. That is, if you consider the spin-off books and comics canon I suppose.
This whole theory sounds good and all but I feel there’s one thing that might of been forgotten or not considered. The Princes Sisters had parents that supposedly ruled before they were given the throne. So maybe just switch out the part where instead of the sisters popping out and one day raising the sun & moon. I think it was their parents who originally were the first ones destined to raise sun/moon and take over Equestria @SawTooth Waves
In "the Journal of the Two Sisters", the king's name is "Bullion". He was apparentally understanding and knew that the princesses represented Equestria as a whole. He still ruled over the region of Unicorns he ruled originally.
@Tudor Aragorn of Greyscot true. After all, both Stygian and Luna stumbled across a fragment of darkness that corrupted them into Nightmare Moon and The Pony of Shadows, whose to say Bullion didn't have a similar encounter... though sadly did not get freedom like the other two
The journal of the two sisters is not canon because it in the book it says that star swirl equals Sombra and IM SORRY WHAT WAS THAT? insert star swirl getting puffed back
@SuspiciouslySollux The Journal is not canon anymore since s7 finale. In the Journal, it was written that Starswirl was still around when Celestia and Luna found the Tree and crowned Princesses, but s7 finale established that Starswirl and the Pillars disappeared into Limbo before the Tree of Harmony grew. I don't know why people keep clinging to the Journal as canon.
To this day, I still think that the IDW Comics timeline (aka the "rumors") would have been better for Sombra. However, in a canon where we are given no reason to sympathize with him, I don't see why this theory wouldn't be plausible. If he's not gonna get reformed or given much of a chance in the story, why even give him a backstory in the canon? Or at least, a backstory that pits him in a better light? In the show's main universe, this is likely the answer, and we will probably get no more G4 media that may disprove it.
In the (canon) "Journal of the two sisters", it's said that the name of the king of the unicorns is "King Bullion". It's also noted that Celestia and Luna were alicorns before they became princesses.
@ArumiDespaire Asahina That it actually doesn't say. Only that they were raised by alicorns, but it's possible they just ascended (or were ascended) very early in life. ...Or the Journal could be wrong. Some things in it (esp. regarding the Tree of Harmony) are explicitly contradicted by later parts of the show.
Not to mention Luna's grammar is atrocious, so there's no way the writing can be authentic to begin with.
@ArumiDespaire Asahina it’s not possible, I mean, it is as flurry heart is a born Alicorn but the princesses were shocked when that happened, it could mean two things (1) they were astonished to see a alicorn being born so that means that they weren’t born alicorns either (2) they were actually born alicorns and are from a different place so they never thought they would see this
@You_know _me Flurry shouldn't be an alicorn, as Cadence was a pegasus before becoming one. Flurry should either be a pegasus or a unicorn, not an alicorn. Celestia and Luna are natural alicorns.
@ArumiDespaire Asahina it’s still a theory for me honestly (celestial and Luna one) but there is one theory which explains why flurry is an alicorn. (The theory is not mine at all, I saw someone comment it and it’s pretty solid.)
The theory is that Flurry heart is a genetic chimera. As in, Cadance had twins in the beginning (one a unicorn from shining armor’s genes and a Pegasus from Candance’s as she was originally a Pegasus) but during the third trimester or something, one twin absorbed the other and they merged together resulting in Flurry Heart being a alicorn as she absorbed her twin’s wings/horn. The twins being different (Pegasus and unicorn) are supported by Pinkie Pie’s neighbors/employers (?) children she babysat who had unicorn and pegasus genes in their family tree.
I think one of Sawtooth’s theories says that they were originally just going to replace the 6 wizards to raise the sun and moon which earned them the ponies’ love and that combined them into Alicorns. So that could be what it meant, they turned into alicorns and then they were made princesses
@ArumiDespaire Asahina How can it be canon when the show contradicts it at multiple points? I'm sorry, but that's a baseless assertion on your part. I've already explained why. However, I fear discussing this with you may be as pointless as discussing the bible with Christians.
@Silver Scroll Lauren Faust literally said they were natural, and even if she isn't working on the show anymore, what she says is true. It doesn't matter if the other people who were working on the show got rid of what she wanted- she was the creator, and no one else has the right to take her show away from her.
but if that was true then why are all the allicorns princcesses????? there could be allicorns in a village but with less power and the princcesses could be more powerfuller right????
@ArumiDespaire Asahina If that were the measure of canon, everything starting from the S2 finale would be non-canon - including most of the best episodes of the series. Either way, it's not the official canon anymore. You can treat it like a Legends canon the way Star Wars does it, I guess, though it's hardly as substantial in this case.
@Subash Christopher And this is why I believe in Sawtooth Waves' immediately preceding alicorn theory as outlined in their Finally Solving Alicorns video.
@ArumiDespaire Asahina but do you remember celestia in “the crystaling” she said “a birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen” meaning they should have accomplished something before they became princesses (correct me if I’m wrong)
@Konan😶 Yeah, they mean that an alicorn has never been born in Equestria. Because the sisters aren't from Equestria. They're from a colony of alicorns, according to the journal. They weren't born in Equestria, hence why they'd say that.
The book is helpful. We don't know how or why they became alicorns, just that it was before they took on sun/moon tasks, and that they were alicorns before they got their cutie marks.
Honestly everything you said sounds right and doesn't really have a flaw in it I watched this show restlessly at a kid and I still like it to this day until they change the art style 😂
I think this story matches the show perfectly and is perfectly cannon!!! Also when you said that he didn’t look like a regular unicorn, but look at mist mane! She looks like him minus the dark colours and flowing mane!!! Sawtooth tell me what you think!
@Anonymous Cause Why Not Me two. I kinda feel like her head cannons were better than what the show gave us, especially her head cannon on Celestia and Luna. Or it's just the fond memories and nostalgia.
As much as people view Hasbrouck having a lot of missed opportunities, I see it as opportunities fulfilled by the fandom for being so creative in taking even the smallest tidbits such as the alicorn amulet looking like Sombra and turning it into this fantastic head Canon
So much creative works have r been done for the love of the show and just coming up with what ifs that really wow us.
I don't see mlp as a lot of shoulda woulda coukda's, but the spark of something even grander. The creativity of and just the fandom itself.
Sawtooth: we haven't seen evidence for that Tantabus: Am I a Joke to you?
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Gacha life Lover2022-04-20 01:09:51 (edited 2022-04-20 01:10:16 )
There is a theory that luna had fallen in love with King Sombra, so she could have given him a bit of her Alicorn magic willingly but something happened to him to have his wings taken from him. Maybe the Alicorn amulet was a gift from someone with mal intentions cursing it as soon as he wore it taking his wings and kindness with it.
If Sombra was an Alicorn, i think that would've made him the first male Alicorn because you know there were never any records kept about any male Alicorns ever existing?...but Sombra did look kinda badass with wings in the thumbnail!!!
Add on I thought of that maybe instead of Sombra seeing the beautiful crystal empire as nice and glory he saw a minefield of crystals that maybe his crystal was inside and that's when we see the crystal ponies working with metal shafts around there legs he was just looking for his crystal to one day get back his powers.Just a little thought your prob gonna see through it but thanks for entertaining me everyday!
So i have only watched up to season two and haven't been able to get into the series and has been years since I saw it so I don't remember much but I have always thought that king sombra was interesting and I appreciate this video. For some reason I can only watch your videos because you bring up interesting topics. Though I did enjoy the new recent movie and loved the concept behind it. For the first time I can admit that I am not a fan of the series but do enjoy aspects that are interesting. Though my sister is a hardcore fan and she had to describe an overall summary of the series in her own words. I however am a fan of equestria girls because the concept of twilight going to the human world was pretty rad to me. Lol.
Hey so I just realised something that I never noticed before and am surprised you didn't either
As we see twilight cast a separating spell on the animals in Tartarus to their original form
We all questioned the origins of the magical creatures of Tartarus, and how they were fused at some point right?
But, Something struck me...
We've seen Twilight form the de-fusion spell as we see to use their magic, but did you know? we've also seen her perform the FUSING spell once, just once, before, very very early on in the show...
Anyone recall? anyone catching up yet? It has to do with apples, bats and a very kind friend ;) . . .
Obviously please tell me you caught up because now the whole new question is, what the heck? like seriously, ponies, infused with other creatures? how many are there? besides seaponies- wait are seaponies also an infusion between griffin and ponies?...
How many unknown species are out there that we don't even know if they were magically fused together.
What about Sombra? he's obviously not the standard pony given the horn??, Chrysalis and the Changelings? Crystal ponies? Keirans or whatever they were called? What about the origins of unicorns and pegasus in the first place? Does this also mean twilight can perform a fusion spell of a flying creature with an earth pony and suddenly they could have wings?
Very interesting concept to me honestly, But what do you all have to say?
@Brinda Iswarya because I never pass 40 likes... it’s a dare from my friend and sense I failed the dare I need to tell my school that I am the one who is the principal’s partner. For the school voting for the handmade prom.
this makes me feel something what happened to princess platinum as she would have also been striped of her royalty. did she follow her fathers hoofprints? did her legacy live on? did her fathers actions affect her life? I feel like the name rarity would live on the legacy but through out so many moons they would forget where platinum came from.
Hey, I just watched the entire video!!! but a thought came to my mind, you've already done other 3 videos with "how to reform mlp vilians" as the main topic. I think you know where im going at this point. Even tho Sombra has already died 2 times already. Would it be posible to actualy reform him? 'Cause if his case its similar to nighmare moons one. Why wouldn´t he be able to reform to? I know It's probably the crazyest tought I've ever had, but I'm courios of whats your opinion, im sure you're not going yo read this but I wanted to give it a shot!!!
I like to think that sombra wanted to have all the alicorn magic to himself, because he was a alicorn king once,and because of the crystal empire he lost them, he wanted to take revenge that’s why he took over the crystal empire, for revenge, so that’s my thought. What about everybody else?
What my theory is: trixie couldnt use the full power of the amulet because she didnt have alot of power to begin with. What im trying to say is that the amulet can only give a certain amount of power depending on how strong you are. So if twilight put it on then she would (in theory) take out all the amulets power but if rarity put it on she wouldnt have access to all the power but rather the amount of power she can hold. It's just a theory tho-
@EG and AJ true xD! But since its corrupted magic wouldnt that mean That she would be mean? And it would only boost her current power if my theory is right lol
if twilight would put it on do u think she would have enough power to change a ponys "character" like how trixie had enough power to change a ponys age would twilight possibly have enough power to make for example an earth pony into an alicorn or etc.
That does make sense, especially the first part. But about Star Swirl the bearded taking his power into an amulet, I think that doesn’t make sense. You said in the first part of your video gems were magical, so why would he store the magic in a gem (where it is even more powerful). I think it makes much more sense that Sombra creates the Alicorn Amulet. He puts a spell on a gem/puts some of his power in a gem. Since gems are magical in Equestria, it multiplies his power several times. He casts one more simple spell so only he can take it off, and he wears it so he changes into an alicorn. But since Sombra already had pretty much power, his power multiplied is to strong, it would eat him up, so he casts one more spell on it, saying that the amulet gives him as much power as he needs at that moment. But when Starswirl overthrew him, he didn’t need much power, so his amount of power was multiplied by 0. He hadn’t power, so the amulet has no power, and Starswirl casts a simple spell so the amulet flies to him. Sombra tries to battle Starswirl, but he has put a part of his power into the amulet, so Starswirl is stronger. At the last moment Sombra casts a spell so he gets teleported to a place where no one would ever find him. From there, it’s just the story we all know. (sorry for my English)
Another theory could be that magic is like energy, it can't dissapear. So StarSwirl knowing this knew that the saffest way was put all Sombra's magic in a gem.
Yet i have a hard time explain the part of only the user can take it off :v
Wait, you said that you need to absorb magic from all three tribes to become an alicorn, right? Does it only apply to ponies? If not, then would Tirek be an alicorn, with two horns and no wings?
@Sawtooth Waves I recently searched what Sombra means and it means Shadow in Spanish, that would explain why his magic looks that way and what his name as a king would have been,
@Art’s Random Stuff Same here. One reason I don't think there should be ads on YouTube...or they should at least put them at the beginning and/or end or the video. Having them in the middle, usually cuts off what somebody's saying, and/or ruins the mood of the video.
I'm beginning to think that the real reason as to why he turned to evil and became a tyrant, was the fact that he'd lost his daughter.
If King Sombra was once king Cobalt, and he had a daughter called princess platinum, it possibly was the grief of losing that someone that he loved. Causing him to feel as if he lost everything even his legacy, and feeling inferior.
Around 7:48 time mark in the video, it was stated that "he always knew about the magic property of crystals". Even as to going as far as sending his daughter in search of new land, by using the crystals as a sort of compass.
Perhaps during one of her expeditions to finding new land, tragedy struck as an unfortunate event occured. That may of ended her life, and for King Cobalt to receive word about the death of his heir and seeing the two sisters rise in power, infuriated him.
He knew that the power that the two sisters possessed, should of been "rightfully" his. It was a painful reminder of his past, his grief, his trauma, and his lust for power slowly turned him insane. Of losing someone that was closest to him that he unfortunately would never see again.
I appoligize that this was long, but as I watched the video I was able to piece together, and hopefully pinpoint the exact cause (or close too) what had happened, this is all just my opinion. Thank you for reading!
Can we talk about how in princess twilight sparkle (the ep) when twilight is using alicorn magic to change the potion it looks like sombras magic. It further adds on to the theory of sombra being an alicorn
Who else noticed that alicorn wings have more feathers and are a bit more fancy Cozy as an example and other alicorns have the same just not as compared to pagasus wings
I just watched the audio of the Sombra comic and so many questions. Oh, I am so into this theory of course.
why? This doesn't really offer explanation. Just stuff that happened. Where is the why? Secondly, is this actually canon? I love Sawtooth's King Cobalt theory. His mother is a crystal? How did Amore know? Why is Sombra like this? Apparently Amore is still alive at the end? How? Distant relative to Cadance? Tell me more. Why did he only say Sombra at the beginning?
Luna was trapped for 1000 years ... The crystal empire disappeared before. The crystal empire reappeared after. 🤣 Logic.
i really like this theory, even tho the part abouthim just finding the crystal empire and without a ruler (or ruler weak enough for the weakend sombra to overthrow) seems kind of sketchy, also if he had a doughter then who did he have it with and what hapend to her after sobra went super nuts alicorn mode? (would love if you made a theory about that too but mabey its a bit weird to make a theory about another theory....?) <3
If it’s true that it was his daughter then I’d be imaging that his daughter maybe died. He being so ripped with grief at the loss of his heir and beloved daughter and thinking that the princesses who seemed to have never ending power could help. He begged for their help with brining his daughter back. But being new to their abilities and not understanding how to properly address the king. In a moment of forgetfulness. Instead of trying to help the king move on and being sympathetic. Or explaining why they couldn’t help. They just told him No. and sent him away. Maybe even having him dragged out possibly in front of his own people when he broke down asking why they wouldn’t help him. Feeling humiliated and broken. The king left. Ending up at the crystal empire. Where he was amazed by the beauty of everything possibly reminding him of his daughter in some way. Being that the empire is not regular pony’s and wouldn’t have been part of the tribes probably. He was most likely seen as a god of sorts. Taken in as their king. He spent countless nights looking into magic. Trying to find comfort or assurance or even a way to bring his daughter back. And this led him to the gem that would become the powerful pendant we know today. He being a already powerful unicorn used it to make him into a Alcorn. And this power just drove him deeper. Feeling so close to the solution. The princess having heard of this came to take the pendant from him. And I believe they succeeded. Turing him back into a unicorn. This would only further his hate for them as the young princess take what he saw as his only chance at getting possibly his only remaining family member back to them. They might tell him that it was a risk and he could die but what does he care in this state? They leave the king to grieve thinking that’s the end of it. And in his grief. Alone. Desperate. Angry. And broken. A transformation similar to nightmare moon happened. His emotions using his own magic to turn him into king sombria. Although it wouldn’t be him anymore. But his pure raw magic ruling. And his magic wants to be more powerful. To fulfill something that he can’t remember. To fix a missing part of him that made him this upset. The princess’s view this not as a mistake of them not helping the king grieve but as him being selfish and power hungry. And not even taking the time to try and help him out of his situation. They pull a nightmare moon and just banish their problems lol.
I personally like the theory that he and Chrysallis ruled the Crystal empire together. And that at some point he grew power hungry and Chrysallis was forced to escape with the changlings leaving her bitter
Yes that’s true and it would be amazing if that was true but I also saw a video on YouTube that wasn’t one of Santas race and he was a unicorn just like it only he helped another unicorn so he wasn’t always evil when he was by himself
I think he made an episode on that, but he only said that Shining Armor couldnt have been because Cadence was the Princess of romantic love and parent love. But in that case, couldn’t Shining Armor have been the Prince of Fatherly love? 🤔 they both play different roles in Flurry’s lives and she loves them BOTH, so in my personal opinion it would have been better for Shining Armor to have turned into an alicorn, especially considering that Cadence, Twilight and Flurry Heart all had to watch him grow old and die 😢
So let’s just say he was the same type unicorn that “mist mane” (the pillar) was then gained wings the shadow pony put that evil power was better than using your power for good in his mind... Then the sisters may have said something similar to this “You shouldn’t use your magic like this... you don’t know what your doing!” Then he would refuse then celestia would grab the alicorn amulet sucking up the other two tribes out of him making him a unicorn and very mad :3
So many villains were downgraded and underused. In the previous seasons the villains seemed much more powerful and fit their roles but it in the last season it just doesnt give the same vibe as their first appearances.
I have a small theory that kinda is based off yours: Maybe, Grogar’s ball and the Alicorn Amulet are connected? Think about it, if you have the magic from Grogar’s ball, he could have easily zapped it into the Alicorn Amulet. If anyone else would like to add on they are allowed to.
Maybe Sombra helped Celestia and Luna and gained alicorn status with them but got jealous that he didn’t have a place. Celestia ruled the day, Luna ruled the night, but what was he left with? Sombra studied dark magic as he tried to find his place as a ruler, but only turned evil as his jealousy and fixation with dark magic transformed him into his current form (but with wings). He fought the Princesses as he declared himself “King of the Shadows”, but lost and was banished. Quickly, he found small kingdoms of crystal ponies that were of all tribes, who fought with each other much like old Equestria. He deemed that the earth ponies would be the easiest to control, since they didn’t have wings or unicorn magic, and became their King. He gave them promises of a great empire ruled by earth ponies and they bowed, given him complete power over their military in return for an empire. Sombra obliterated the opposing crystal kingdoms, and used his shadow magic to control the army, forcing the crystal ponies to allow him to be their one and only King. The two sisters heard of this and went to confront their old friend, now powered with the Elements of Harmony. During a peace dinner, the sisters threatened the Shadow King with the Elements, but he used his mind controlled soldiers to throw them out. Celestia threatened that this action would result in war, but he didn’t care. In preparation for war, King Sombra made himself a crystal made entirely out of dark magic to give him boosts of magical strength to keep fighting, while also controlling his subjects. The war lasted almost a full generation before the final battle where Luna confronted Sombra on the battlefield. Sombra tried to convince Luna to be his Queen, since they had been really close friends in their youth, but she refused. Sombra continued by saying how ponies don’t actually enjoy the night or shadows, and that they are actually terrified of the dark. These ideas stuck in Lunas head, but she still refused and cut off Sombra’s wings and took his amulet. The King felt his power and energy drain from him as his soldiers shook off the mind control. But right as the Princesses banished him, he used the last of his strength to cause the Crystal Empire to vanish with himself.
That’s just my headcanon sorry that was so long okay bye :D
Im so confused. Hasn’t this already been answered? The comics tell the story of sombra being part of the umbra and his fate to become corrupted as seen by radiant hope. Were those comics just not out yet by the time this video was made?
In the season 3 premier when Shining Armour is leading the mane 6 to the Crystal Empire for the first time he says, "Something keeps trying to get in, we think it's the UNICORN KING who originally cursed the place". He could just be referring to the fact that Sombra is a unicorn and not a crystal pony but it still seems like an odd detail to throw in there.
From what I know from the comics is that sombra was a normal unicorn in the crystal empire friends with cadence. They’re was a myth that if you looked into the crystal heart you’d see your future, so cadence saw hers, but sombra got one of him getting eaten up by darkness (I think, or he got nothing), which made him angry because cadence got a good future, that after that i don’t really remember, what happened so, yep. (Not 100% sure this is correct tho), and I’m also sure sombra travels between worlds where the “shadow ponies” are.
Sombra's friend wasn't Candence, it was Radiant Hope :P I also saw Comic, he's kind of a shadow pony and in history he said there were others like him under the Crystal empire, it's a shame he was consumed by darkness and became the Shadow King, Radiant was extremely sad when it happened because they were friends from childhood, I always thought he could have changed his destiny if he had tried :,)
I might have figured out the way Sombra actually took over the Crystal Empire while keeping in line with the theoretical Timeline you've come up with. Rather than copy-paste it here, I'll just point to your 'Lost Alicorn Princess' Video where I've commented how Sombra, the former Crystal Princess and Princess Cadence all fit into your story...
This still doesn't explain how Trixie can cast spells we've never seen anyone cast before, does Sombra's influence on the amulet also give the wearer the ability to use such spells?
What if the Sombra that Discord "revived" wasn't actually Sombra at all? What if Discord's Sombra was just some creation with the same lust for power as the previous Sombra?
If anyone did not know I think Twilight said that they banished him to something icy. So do you think king sombra could be afraid of snow and ice. Besides he has the power to show other ponies the fear that's in them.
I wanted to see WAY more of sombra... I'm kinda mad that they brought him back and then almost immediately threw him away. 😔 He had SO much potential to be an awesome villain.
Exactly! I was so happy when they finally brought him back! Then so disappointed when it was only for the start to kill him off AGAIN! Literally the only freaking villain that died! TWO TIMES!
Tbh sombra really did have so much potential but like he always had his heart set on the throne and tbh it just made him not think about other things if that makes sense like for example when sunset came back to equestrian and stole twilights crown she bright a fake but he didn’t think about things like that
Side theory: We've only seen a particular set of ponies have their hair show how they feel, Pinkie's hair goes flat when she's upset and not representing her element. The only other ponies to have done that are the crystal ponies, they went flat a dull when Sombra took over!! Could this mean there's some relation between Pinkie and the crystal ponies?? Obviously pinkie works a lot differently than the crystals, hers is way more emotion based, and we know she was raised on a rock farm and not in the empire, but could some kind of crystal roots mixed with her element cause her to react this way?? I'd love to see a in depth theory about this, cuz I don't have the tine or brainpower to get evidence.
I always thought Sombra ended up selling his soul or something to gain his power. If his soul is missing, it would explain why he has no cutie mark for someone as exceedingly old as he is.
Cadence ruled the Crystal Empire PRIOR to King Sombra, hence her cutie mark. The Love Potion Story says the two rulers' kingdoms fell. The Crystal Empire fell to Sombra. Assuming this is true, this theory can't work because of the huge time gap. I do agree with his connection to the Alicorn Amulet, this just isn't it.
I always assumed given the comics, that the Sombra brought back was his evil and malice given form like a copy with it's own body kinda like if Nightmare Moon returned with her own body and no host or like how Terrorwing and Mesogog were separated from their hosts in Power Rangers, and the real Sombra was still looking for the Shards of Amore unaware of what was happening.
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I feel like saw tooth is right, but the more I watch mlp season six episode one the more something bothers me. When Spike explained the crystalline in the crystal empire to the mane six, the vaze he was holding had images of crystal ponies with unicorn horns and pegisi wings
What I think happened is sombra was a regular unicorn but when Luna set the moon and celestia risen the sun for the first time and everyone watched he started to have a thirst for power and at the first summer solstice as the moon set and the sun rose he stole the princesses powers and Luna ran but celestia stayed and tried to fend off but was chased into the ever free forest and stumbled into the tree of harmony and the elements glimmered in her eyes and she took them and she was cornered by sombra and trying to fend off the elements gave her power and banished sombra getting her and her sisters magic back and all that's was left was the necklace shaped like sombra to warn about the dark forces it had within it the elements floated back into the tree and celestia was surprised and that's how she found the elements and defeated sombra. Peeps please dont be mad I over think stuff
I think he went to the alicorn society and destroyed it to gain his magic which is also why luna and her sister couldn't get back to their home. Then in seeking of more power he went to the crystal empire and over threw it but was later killed and if or destroyed
There’s something the hits the story in the head The thing that shows this is wrong:sombra is not that alicorn see the horn his head is shaped different its Curved But the alicorn on the necless doesn’t
I think sombra can already control dark magic crystals and there was another himself but with dark magic sombra tried and defeat that dark magic sombra but he failed and that dark magic sombra collided with sombra making sombra filled with dark magic.
I think that Chrysalis and Sombra is related to each other, they both have dark grey skin color the curved horn and also the green eyes similarities.
On season three when Sombra gets closer and closer to the Crsytal Heart an object filled with and fuelled with love of the Crystal ponies his reaction is to lick his lips as if he wanted to feed on it just like how a changeling reacts when taking the love of creatures.
Sombra was a corrupt king of the Crsytal empire and Chrysalis Queen of The Changelings then the two may be related??
Ya but don’t forget at the 5th season I think where rarity was telling the cutie mark crusaders their favorite legends the unicorns had the same exact horn as somber so could be he was out thrown from mist manes friend and exiled and found the crystal empire then
Defo give the fiendship is magic comics a read! Sombras explains that he never had wings to begin with nor does he ever get a cutie mark! still would be awesome if they had dep dives into that more though in the show
The graphic novel I think handles it well. That he isn't a pony even. That the crystal Fair was painful to him. He had one friend in the orphanage, who spent a millennium being tricked by his species. So, sorry, better story line. The Umbrum would have been a great story line.
That said, the early story of the graphic novels, with Sombra of alternate world, was a pony. But he did not have wings there either.
But how did I never notice all the crystal ponies have no wings or horns & are different altogether.
@Meko Cat Genshin impact is a product of mihoyo, a Chinese games company. because the characters are styled in an anime-like fashion people think its a japanese game and refuse to believe that its chinese.
@Key Lime Pie Looks like you didn't get my question what I meant was I heard people say that they collect data from people like they collect the details of people who play and people are scared because of that because they said if it's a Chinese game then they will collect data and I don't know maybe sell it?
@Key Lime Pie but I don't know if it's that true or not but genuinely people are scared of that game and I don't know why but I'm not because I like this game and I play it so I don't see anything wrong with it
@xara wrong it’s Chinese up there, Japanese is made up of 3 languages. Katakana for foreign words and is just vowels, Hirigana which is syllables for local words. And kanji, that which is from China, basically Japanese is a watered down easier version of Chinese.
@Bon-Bon Savour300 genshin is a chinese game based off of different regions and traditions aswell, mondstadt is based off of wales or sweden I think? or maybe germany, Inazuma is based from Japan and I think that Liyue is based off of China :)
I’m not sure Sombra was an alicorn. It could be true, but I had a theory that when a creature turns evil they get an “evil form”, like Nightmare Moon, so maybe Sombra started out as a regular unicorn and then turned evil, or that Cozy Glow’s evil form was an alicorn, but this is a great theory
Sombra: "I shall rule with an iron fist!" Also Sombra: Wears iron-looking shoe things Celestia when she came with Luna to banish him: "You know, I think you took the "iron fist" think too literally..."
I think he always was the rightful ruler of the crystal empire. He got jealous of the royal sisters because they were all the new craze to his subjects and got corrupted similar how nightmare moon was born. Sombra is very interested in forcing ponies to obey him so in the past he could have cared very much about them in the past.
So I read this theory on Reddit about why all the crystal ponies are earth ponies.. To put it simply, each sub-class of pony has it's own traits other than the obvious wings, horns or lack thereof. Unicorns are powerful and elegant, the pegasi are agile and quick, the earth ponies are strong and enduring and the alicorns are (Obviously) a combination of the three. According to this theory, these facts tie in as to why the crystal ponies are all earth ponies. As I said before, the earth ponies are strong and enduring, which probably made them the only ponies that could survive King Sombra's rule. And since all the ponies that returned are the same ponies from his original reign, it makes sense. On another note, I don't think the crystal ponies in question are a separate species of pony altogether. As we see in the show, exposure to the Crystal Heart can turn anypony into a crystal pony, since there are several occurrences where non-crystal ponies gain a crystal coat. That explains why there are some crystal ponies later on in the show (And the comics) are pegasi/unicorns, even though the original crystal ponies haven't really had the time to breed considering it's only been a few years since the Empire's return.
orrr, I have another theory based off of your video on Cadence. In that video there was a prince who fell in love with Cadence and I think that prince was Sombra. Cadence ruled what was at the time, a very small crystal empire and Celestia broke away the two by banishing Sombra to somewhere, and while cadence grew back into her old roles, Sombra was heartbroken and unable to cope, allowing dark forces to take him over before her returned to take control of the kingdom he once ruled, the crystal empire, and from there, Canterlot. as for the Alicorn amulet I think there is a second story behind this, somewhat similar to what you said in this video, possibly Sombra stealing the magic of the crystal ponies and as they had kids and evolved that lost magic couldn't be passed down so instead the ponies put what little magic they had left into the crystal heart, finding themselves a substitute power in that to keep them alive. I would love to hear what you think about my theory though :)
I just realised something... so obviously we all know there's life beyond the rainbows and ponies? yeah and remember the time Tirek, a mysterious creature from beyond Equestria after several years of imprisonment absorbed all of the princesses magic?... Yo is no one gonna question how many creatures out there are probably flowing with any kind of amount of alicorn magic? all it did to Tirek was make him stronger and bigger. How many are really out there with unknown civilian-attempted assassinations but in the form of alicorn power with tainted and secret histories? Dang, that would be so damn interesting! like a re-watching of the elder-wand-power-mess, but alas MLP is MLP, doubt they'd do something like this. well not that they can do it at all anymore-
Wait. This makes sense but..could King Sombra have been a Kirin? Or Nirik I guess. Think about it, his cape and armor perfectly hide his scales, his dark coat and flowing mane, his odd horn. Certainly looks like one? Could he have some motives that would go along with his character story? Also, he has fangs like a Nirik and I should mention Nirik/Kirin are the only creatures in mlp that I have seen to have beard-like manes, just like King Sombra.
What if king sombra mixes in with princess cadence. On another video you show how Cadence could have ben the princess from the book that had the love poison spell in it and Sombra could have ben that prince that gave it to her before becoming king. That would explain cadences cutie mark if she was originally from the crystal empire.
Did u see the episode where he drowned?? Because that could lead to multiple different outcomes like him maybe dealing with some sort of shadow demon or something leading to him turning evil
@Dream Kohta maybe sandbar referred to him as a pony because he doesn't know the full story behind sombra? Sombra in a way is a pony but also came from shadow ponys in the comics and he looks like a pony so he can live among the other ponys as like a spy
Well yeah in the comics(that's if you want to consider it canon) sombra is part of a race called the umbrum, a race that was imprisoned because they attacked the crystal empire. So the umbrum turned sombra into a pony so he can slip through the prison. I think people call him a pony caus he looks like a pony.
@Taylor Pennington when he was talking about Reforming Cozyglow because of her cutiemark, and he said there hasn't been actually an evil cutiemark, so maybe thats why he doesn't have a cutiemark to reflect his bad guy form. Or maybe when he was the normal unicorn king, he had a cutiemark but his evil form took it away
I think Sombra is from where Mistmane is from and her friend Sable Spirit was corrupted because if you look at her magic, it's very rare for it to be red, like when Trixie got corrupted. (of course, I could be wrong but my theory, ok?) Also, I think that maybe Sombra corrupts Flurry Heart in the future but she overcomes it herself and protects the Crystal Heart and that's why she looks like she has guard armor and also why she has that stained glass window.
Coming back to this video and looking at Sombra made me notice something… Anybody else think he kinda looks like Mistmane? I mean the long curved horn, tall and slender build, kinda wavy mane? Just something I noticed and thought was kinda interesting
okay so... you said he WAS an alicorn right? Well I came in conclusion that Sombra aka "King Cobalt" WAS the first ever male alicorn that existed... and then after he became a normal unicorn cause he gave up to dark magic, Star Swirl: The Bearded actually did not make another male alicorn cause he might've thought that it's just gonna end up like how Sombra became to be.
I think that's why there is no male alicorns in the series... (Sorry for my bad grammar, English isn't my first language)
i believe its a little different: king cobalt gained alicorn wings as soon the 3 tribes united and after a long time he found the crystal empire and there he started to get hungry for power and jealous for the new princesses after this he turned into king sombra and starswirl drained his powers with the alicorn amulet
I think most probably sombra might wear his Cape to hide his wings. Then he'd be the first male alicorn, right? Maybe he studied under Starswirl with Celestia and Luna. So maybe Starswirl made him an alicorn? That's how Celestia and Luna were almost outsmarted.
I think he was a pony within the crystal empire, he was a lot like sunburst and had a thirst for knowledge. After reading and reading he stumbles upon a corrupt but powerful type of magic, at first he decided to simply read about it but over time he grew obsessed with the power it could offer him and succumbed to the temptation. Since the first spell he casted through this style of magic, he was slowly becoming more and more thirsty for power. Influenced by his new magic he attempts to overthrow the empire. As for his horn and ability to use magic, either it came with the dark magic somehow, or that it’s because he simply wasn’t a crystal pony
I think that when Star swirl came to take king Sombra’s magic king Sombra transformed into another form as Luna did and then star swirl and king Sombra had a big battle then star swirl took Sombra’s magic that he stole from the pony’s that then trapped Sombra so he couldn’t transform back into his normal self. If that makes any sense. 😅
"...Is [Sombra] even a unicorn? He sure doesn't look like one, his horn is different" and a couple of other things that you actually explained. The horn could also be part of a magical transformation, but some unicorns do have curved horns; look at Mistmane (and the other unicorns in her legend). I like how not all unicorns have the same horn, because look at how many styles of horn there are on bi-horned creatures irl - it wouldn't make any sense for there to be just one type of unicorn (I don't consider the kirin as unicorns, because they have antlers rather than horns).
this makes me feel like the “good” pony’s are really just bad and the “villains” just want back what the once had that was taken over my the pony’s of equestria
What about Radiant Hope, Sombra’s best and only friend. She was a unicorn who turn on Sombra when he over through Princess Amore. They both grow up together in the crystal empire. If Sombra were to become an Alicorn would she have been mention, since she was the cause for Sombra to be over thrown, cause she told Celestia and Luna about his plans
I love tge comic too but......we have to admited the comic are not canon at all. The final contradicted the serie but anyways i still love the comic. Radiant Hope x Sombra forever!!!
I think sawtooth just didn't followed the comics which states that Sombra is Umbrum and he had a childhood friend called radiant hope, in the sawtooth's theory Radiant hope did not exists in life of sombra. Still the theory is good with some solid explanation , but I rather stick with comics cause in that sombra is not outright bad, but has a reason why he is why he is. I like how Sombra is fleshed out character .
Actually when she went to the Princesses about him, it was to help him cause he was in pain and needed help due to everything that happened that led to him taking over. I believe she was trying to calm him down or something hoping the Princesses could reason with him but the whole thing escalated to the point of the fight in the show and banishment.
I alway felt like sombra was not that bad, maybe he is the one how caused amnesia to the crystal pony, after all, we only have one version of the story (the one of celestia) after all, he could have destroyde the crystal heart, but he didn't, he just kept it hidden in a safe place from every pony I'm probably wrong but I can't take this idea of my hide, thinking sombra as always been bad to the crystal pony is just weird and suspect for me
It's kinda sad that he got kicked out of being a ruler cause the sisters were "better" than him other than that he got so jealous that he snapped and wanter power and was to into being a powerful ruler like the sisters and got banished
Notice how in friendship games both Sci twi and sunset became alicorns but not physical (like the princesses) but magical alicorns (like the new gen) because their magic was taken from the friendship of the tribes (human 6)
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So, I love your video and your channel, but I read this book, I think that its the journal of the 2 sisters, and I read that if your theory is correct, King Sombra's old name was King Bullion, not King Cobalt. But dont get me wrong I love your videos and your channel!!!😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Honestly, my theory is that Luna and Celestia weren't the only Alicorns, but they had a sister, one who fell in love with Sombra and that tirek came back for revenge, first making his way to the pair and corrupting them both, leaving a little foal behind, Cadence who would return to take the throne that was rightfully hers. But that's what I think makes sense.
I personally think that he is from mistmanes (the pillar of beauty) place as you can see his horn is curved like mistmanes and if you see that is the cmc+sisters telling tales all of mistmanes people as well had curved horns so i think he is from there
I think it was just for convinence, so rarity could go be someone large. But, If we are thinking about it in a theory kind of way, he probably wanted to be mysterious, and show his subjects that he ruled,
@Kureemy I don’t think it was. I mean there could be an infinite number of reasons. He could be training his daughter to deal with major political matters after he passes or he’s busy with another meeting elsewhere or he’s hoping that by sending his daughter she may be able to expand his kingdom. Your question honestly is a great one that could lead to many different stories based on a simple answer, so I’d say your question is a really good one.
remember when Celestia and Luna put their magic in something? so maybe when Celestia and Luna came maybe when king sombra uses his power Celestia and Luna lock it in an amulet? second theory so, remember when twilight gets wings from doing good deeds? by saving ponyville etc. so maybe sombras wings disappeared for doing a bad deed. so, in order to get it he has to use a more powerful object or doing a good deed, so he gets his wings back. third theory so, remember when when twilight turns into midnight? she had the same face ghost spirit thing so maybe the bad magic is connected to all bad magic moments
QUESTION :but when sombra did bad deeds his wings didn't disappear then? ANSWER: so maybe the black magic was like a magic Sheild for alicorns like sombra can keep his wings and magic but when the Sheild was weak when he took over the kingdom, he lost his wings
QUESTION: but cozy glow had wings when she had grogards bell dident the sheild work then answer: well the sheild was weak because it was inside and no one was attacking
im confused on alicorns.. when Celectia and Luna lost there magic they stayed alicorns.. but when Cozy Glow lost her magic she was a pegasus again so how does that work?
That is an parallel universe where the Mane 6 didn't become friends. (so basically a canonical what if story)
Well Sombra returned, no Mane 6 there to stop him his time, so Cadance and Shining Armor failed, Celestia probably went there and tried to stop him, failed for some reason (I imagine that there are unlimited parallel universes so even though in most universes Sombra is defeated, there is always this small percentage where it escalates), Sombra enslaved the crystal ponys, and then the war begun.
Though I imagine the crystal empire with it's disadvantage in position and population and lack of modern industry and war machinery to last like 2 years maximum against a fully utilized Equestria XD
What if he was Luna and celestia’s father? My theory: when their mother and father died, it was because of evil creatures attacking them. Their mother died because she did not so come to the evil magic, and their father didn’t want to die as well. He decided to embrace darkness and the dark magic stripped him of his alicorn magic, replacing it with dark magic. The darkness took more control over him and he became greedy for power, forgetting his past.
i honestly thought that he was born a happy unicorn and was unicorn king but a dark magic took over him as a adult corrupting him and corrupting his physical body and magic turning him into a evil king
According to the fiendship is magic comics, spoiler alert he grew up in the crystal empire. Every year he and his friend looked forward to attending the crystal fair, but every year he grew too ill to attend. The queen told him it was because he was born from shadows (or something like that, it's been awhile since I've read the comic) and he was designed to try to take over. She allowed him to stay because she believed one could change their destiny and because the crystal empire was his home. He never did, and obviously
Well those comics was never explicitly stated as canon. Moreover, they can be disproven, like how the episode "Shadow Play" disproven the Dazzling's backstory in the comics.
@The 13th Googler They're considered sub-canon. Basically, if there isn't anything in the mane show that contradicts the comics, they're considered canon.
actually, it goes like this. The reason why sombra (whos name isn't actually sombra, people called him that because they didnt like him) became evil was because that he was once normal, but could never find his cutie mark. He was friends with someone else who couldnt, radiant hope. They became great friends. Once when they were visiting princess amore, they looked into the crystal heart. The crystal heart deems your future and destiny, radiant hope looked in and was a princess, and sombra looked in, he saw who he was today. Amore asked him what he saw, and he said: " Nothing, only shadows." One day, he came to see that radiant had a cutie mark, a golden sword with two white snakes wrapped around it. She had also earned an invite at celestias school. Knowing that radiants future had come true, he knew that his would too. He ran back to princess amore's castle, with her waiting there. She knew what had happened and what he saw. She said: You can still change your future. He didn't believe her though, and turned her into stone with evil magic and shattered her pieces across all equestria.
@ZenitsuKun no, she was the princess of the crystal heart. Chrysalis is the princess of the changelings. amore means love in a different language, and cadence is the princess of love. i think cadence is amore's daughter. ( and dont worry, this wasnt in the show. it was in a graphic novel. im pretty sure the comics are canon
@Mushrooms ohh thank you, I saw a video from this channel that Chrysalis was princess amore if she didn't go through a villain path haha (it might be a theory)
@Noah Maldonado actually , as sawtooth waves said in another video, cutie marks aren't meant for evil. There's always a good meaning for them , even if they belong to a villian.
Well, I'm not very certain about this theory. At season 8, Star Swirl said " I simply cannot believe how tall you have gotten", that means ponies grow over time. But since if your theory is correct, Sombra must be the same height or taller than Celestia and Luna. But he's not even bigger or taller than Luna. But I'm not saying your theory is wrong. I just have a question: if Sombra was banished to the frozen north, does it mean that he does not grow? If that's an yes, don't mind anything I said.
He might loss his wings ever 1st fail of war. And then made him metal or amor pony or magic storm. Or could be diff like he no wings so he cover it up and made story about his wings. But who won’t love a fresh pretty new wings. Then not wings he learn his famous flying dash spell or turn into darkness. And then the rest is history for him. Could been something form discord too, like he got mad and thought he could kill pony easy but didn’t work. Which would not make sense. Just when he was still evil he say pony’s like the good changing aw. So both could not see a way to join them. Until spike help changing and flutter shy with discord.
I think that sombra wasn't a unicorn I think he was a pegasi I think it's twilight sparkle he feared maybe it was twilight sparkle maybe when she was young she used her magic to get he's wings and he became a unicorn
Also as shown in The Times are Changeling, we have Winged Crystal Ponies, and then there is the armor Fluttershy and RD wore while jousting, which was designed for pegasus
While I do like the fan theory of who he is, it seems like this is more so a fan fiction rather than the actual truth. I might be more welcoming of the theory if there was some more actual proof of some of these "facts" in the actual series. But for something based off of ideas, it's interesting to see what others think.
I think I know I think some unicorn a spell magic on a pony and it was thought that it failed but after the pony give birth then the baby had beautiful skin by general mutationthe clear skin was so like that over thousands of years it became a civilization of its own called crystal ponies and they kind of shared magic with crystals
@Night Bee OK , as you like Once upon a time a pony safes the life of one of the five sorcerers responsible for raising the sun he thought to give a gift to that mare , used a spell but nothing happened before they could ask him he disappeared. Her earth pony family was also in confusion . But she gave birth to her young daughter, she was very beautiful. With crystal clear shimmering skin. We wanted to share the love and light with her but could not expand magic. They sended the letter to good king sombra for help. He without being noticed went to the Arctic north where the used animal skin as clothes he saw the baby and because of his want of power he agreed because he thought it could make another species and he can expand his kingdom. Used crystal and after the they used it is also became shiny and more connected to nature they became wiser and became a tribe called the crystal ponies. And after king sombra was on his own he saw that the crystal ponies made their own separate kingdom sombra declared himself the king but they refused so he forced them but he was banished . Ok this tour is not very clear but kind of makes sense. And I think after the crystal empire disappeared the population still kept growing or something I think you should ask somebody to add something.
@zana4u I thought the crystal empire was formed when a group or tribe of ponies were affected by some spell or something, and they decided to move away from the other ponies so they moved to the north and made their own empire called the crystal empire because they looked like crystals and had a strong magical connection to crystals.
Well we actually have no evidence. Some say that the crystal heart was equestria’s original town before it expanded. Some say it was its own nation with its own piny tribe. Honestly we don’t know. Gen 5 writers we need more explanation.
It's honestly not a bad story/theory. but there is one thing to take into consideration when it comes to the gen 4 MLP storyline. The comics. The comics do go over a lot of the ponies's backstory. some of which we would never expect. Sombra's story is definitely an interesting one, even in the alternate reality where he was a king. I will not reveal too much information because his past is very interesting to read up on. but he is indeed an Umbrum. And his reasoning for taking over the crystal empire will surprise you. Looking at the art you have, that is how his king form in the alternate reality comics look. keep up the good work on your theories.
One MLP:FIM comic says that Sombra was an umbrum at birth, but he was turned into a regular pony so that he would take over Equestria and free his kind.
but wait, when Tireck comes to steal ponies magic, the princesses gave their magic to Twilight, and they stayed unicorns so i think that’s mean Celestia, Luna and Cadence are bone unicorn, because when he stole an unicorn’s magic, they kept their horns
One problem the summer su celebration is specifically said to have originally been a celebration of nightmare moon’s banishment then a celebration of luna’s return
i just watched you cadence video. we can see his horn doesn’t look normal. maybe he’s the prince in the story. i mean, it would make sense because when cadence destroyed the fake crystal heart, a crystal pony recognized her. the empire could be the one that was destroyed
The comics are asome but their have some incongruents with the serie. That is why many didn t count comics like canon sources. Anyways I love reading it.
I think Sawtooth is strictly going by show canon in this case since the comics and show do collide sometimes in terms of canon. We may as well consider the comics an alternate universe at this point.
@Andy Shattuck I think there were more Umbrum, but they were sealed beneath the Crystal Empire. If I remember right, there's actually an arc in the comics where Sombra tries to free the sealed Umbrum
Personally, Sawtooth theory make much more sense. I prefer his theories than even the comic book cause i feel it was weird that he easily embrace the Umbra's fate just by meeting his so-called Umbras mother and leave Radiant Hope without even a second thought. It also leave a room about who is his father and how on earth he have a sex a with the Umbras which supposedly sealed under the Crystal Empire and why it was sealed under the Crystal Empire ? Shouldn't they move or sealed it on a different place cause it was to dangerous ? It also created a whole different question who is the Umbras and where did they came from. Beside, the Umbras theories relies heavily on the Stygian and Pony of Shadow and King Sombra could turn to shadow. There were no evidence of it's existence throughout the canon material. Even the comic that produced the comic book was indenpendence from Hasbro and the comic was created as Hasbro decided to keep his origin a mysterious. There also leave a question on how King Sombra turn Princess Amore to Black Crystal Statue and break him and if thatw as Umburm magic, then why he didn't use against Spike. There also this " the umbrum army underground and scatters the fragments of Amore's statue across the world so she cannot be restored in time to stop him" which the comic didn't deal. Finaly, in the FIENDship is Magic Issue 1, it was very clear that Twillight and Cadance read King Sombra's diary but it was started with how he was found and named and ended with Sombra knowing his defeat by Celestia and Luna is imminent, he enacts a terrible curse, and how Radiant Hope is forced to watch as her home vanishes. It was based on a book they found underneath of the Crystal Palace. So, who write the diary and what is the fate of Radiant Hope ? What does that red crystal have to do with the Umbrum? What really happened between the Crystal Ponies and the Shadow Ponies? In fact in the continuation of the comic Friendship is Magic Issue 37# Radiant Hope leave Equestria and go into the world of Umbrum and learn everything about them and return to invade Equestria and Crystal Empire, she also revived back Sombra and it end with how Twillight defeat her and she and Sombra became a good and they redemmed themselve by traveling the world to find the fragment of Princess Amore that scattered across the world and this is clearly doesn't work with the final season. Hasbro clearly ignored the comic story line. Of course there are those who proposed a theories to reconciled the canon storyline with the comic.
I personally considered the comic book as an alternative story line and different dimension since it has good character and yes it did gave Sombra a sympathetic background for us and gave him more chracterization without undermining his personality in the MLP. Beside didn't both in the comic and cannon show, there exist many mirror that lead to different dimension. I considered the comic as cannon, just on a different dimension similar to how the comic has a story where Twilight ended on a dimension where Sombra was a good ruler and sacrificed himself for the sake of the Alicorn sister that in turn were evil and started absorbing the evil on the Alicorn sister.
@Mohd Ghazali He probably easily embraced it because it had been pushed on him for so long that you couldn't change what the Crystal Heart shows you is going to happen, but I understand the plot holes and other issues it brings in.
Why is this even a question? Comic Sombra finished his story on a happy note, being redeemed. He came back to life and stopped being evil. Then in the show, he comes back to life as a straight up villain even though he's already alive and good? If you need someone to explain to you how that's impossible, you have brain issues. Both Sombras cannot be the same character. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. Once you get that obvious fact, it makes it clear then, that you can't use facts about 1 Sombra as proof for things about the other. They are entirely separate, except for a single moment they both had. But they are not the same characters at all. AT ALL.
The comics are not canon. Sombra is the proof of this. There are two Sombras. I am confused how people who know about comic Sombra are even talking about this like they don't realise that. The only explanation? Utter stupidity... Or, there was a really big timeframe between when you read the comic and saw the episode bringing him back that you just never looked at both moments side by side to see the problem. I guess.
@Tails Clock You straight up, didn't need to be rude. Thanks for insulting me a bunch for no reason. I wasn't "Asking a question", I was just pointing something out and being a bit funny. I'm not stupid, and you need to tone it down and relax. Taking this crap too seriously and just being rude ruins the fun for everyone. Have a decent day and try to be nicer in the future towards others.
@NootNoot Okay you do have point about that but like you said, that story have many plot hole and it's continuation go against what the final season established or it will be more correct to say that Hasbro go against what the comic had established and ignored it.
@damp sock He said that in the video. First Sombra got kicked out of Equestria for trying to usurp the princesses, then he found the Crystal Empire and enslaved the Crystal Ponies, to which the princesses responded by using the Elements to banish him again.
@Joey Aderman but they didn't directly contradict the show in this, so therefore the comics literally have the answers to the entire premise of these Sombra videos. In the comic that goes into some of the mane villains backstories, it literally has all the relevnt info on Sombra. And since the show itself hardly goes into his backstory, there's nothing for that comic to ctradict, therefore by your comment, the comic story is canon.
@NootNoot i agree, tho it's been a while since i read his backstory in the comic, which i consider canon cuz there's no good reason not to, i do remember there being a few questions i had at the time. But yes, as to why he gave into the darkness so easily, and left the one pony who truly cared for him, well, like that crystal thing said, it was basically his destiny. The evil literally flowed through his veins, there was no way he could resist it. And we who read the comics know that he was in tremendous pain near the end of his "normal" life, because he was being called to become what he was meant to be. i like Sawtooth's theories in other aspects i know nothing of, but this one kinda irked me cuz i see nothing wrong with the canon we're given through the comics. I know there are people who only consider either a show canon OR comics canon for other franchises, so i mean you do you, but unless there's some major like story breaking contradictions that one poses to the other, i have no reason to believe that comic isn't canon. :/
so when i say they don't contradict the show, i meant that his backstory doesn't *as far as i'm aware*. i easily could be missing something as i haven't read every single comic out there. So maybe the rest of Sombras comic story contradicts something in show im not aware of, but as far as im aware, his background doesn't. To me, making a totally new one like this video is simply a fanfiction. which is also fine, as those have proven time and time again to be pretty fricken entertaining. sometimes.
Do you know absorbed some of his jealousy that just came to my mind Celestia was on the opposite side of him so Luna was the only one that absorbed his jealousy making her one day become jealous and turn nightmare moon
I was just rewatching season 3 mlp when the crystal empire first appeared and when twilight and her friends met up with shining armor he told them "something keeps trying to get in, we think its the UNICORN KING who originally cursed the place" so that can be true
Where were you when we needed backstory for sombra in the actual show? XD
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Wait, wasn't there a comic that went over his origins & his girlfriend (I'm assuming) leading him to a redemption of some kind? Also, there was a Unicorn princess for the Crystal Empire when Sombra was still a colt, I think she ended up being Cadence's some odd great grandmother over the years since her death, his defeat by the Sisters, & the re-emergence of the Crystal Empire. Hm. I guess she had a baby & they were taken out of the empire before everything disappeared?
Off topic, I had an argument with my cat, asking if she's a a changeling/aswang because she absorbs love an power /our braincells. (Aswang - a Filipino monster and such.)
Honestly I feel Sombra could be some sort of royal changeling. The Changelings always need a Queen so if a male royal Changeling was born there would be no use for him. Also Sombra was obsessed with the Crystal Heart, which stored love and cheer from the crystal ponies, much like how Changelings feed off of love. To explain his more pony like appearance you should look to Chrysalis. She looks quite different to her subjects, much more like a pony, like with her eyes and horn shape! I think for a royal Changeling to be born, they might need to be half earth pony/unicorn/Pegasus. Sombra and Chrysalis also have many physical similarities, like their longer, curvier horns, the fact they are much taller than normal ponies/changelings and their weirdly shaped ears. Also Sombra’s horn looks quite similar to Changeling horns, don’t you think? Perhaps his cape hides his holes or perhaps changeling like wings? Perhaps he was more ponylike and became an alicorn then had it taken away? Just a theory of mine that I at least think has merit. (Also this took a while to type out so if people could recognise this that would be great thanks)
I have a question? There is the song that is called my dear Luna and it has king summer I was little and Luna has a little, so I think you were right about what he looked like when he was little.
when i was young i got a comic about twilight went to the crystal empire. In that comic also mentioned about King sombra's past and Princess Mi amora ( ruler of the Crystal empire)
I'm thinking that Sombra when he was a little foal he became a orphan then he was adopted by a couple and found filly who was alone they become friends as you know that the old ruler of crystal empire is princess Amore she gave her place to Sombra and then he knows that the filly was the niece of Amore so he was happy but when he knew that the filly don't like Sombra he became angry and became a shadow and banished by the two royal sisters.
What if he was the prince of unicorns. His sister was chosen to be greater than him and to become Queen. He was jealous and hungry for the power so whenever the sisters came along and became alicorns. So he use the same magic through a magic Crystal. The alicorn amulet, but didn't give him wing's. So on so fourth.
Maybe… Unicorns can get magic from love right? And doing something special? Could there be bad unicorns that gift the bad the power of alicorn? We don’t know about celestias mother and father and others in the family so…? I know I could be wrong but this must be that King Sombra is related to Celestial and Luna
About the whole fact that when ponies lose their magic They don't lose their innate features what if they do after a certain period of time like if it's been gone for a long long time We only see Temporary magic stealing When tyric took over could be after a while they start to lose their features
I LOVE THIS THEORY, but at the same time; I have to wonder-
1. What happened to the other leaders? Where did their lives go from there? 2. Wasn't the first Summer Sun Celebration a celebration of Nightmare Moon's banishment??
But according to the MLP village game he was kinda like a traveling peasant with his best friend who was the only I e who believed in him according to the description. It was called the wagon of hope or something like
The part about king sombra coming out during the summer sun celebration wouldn’t make sense seeing as it was created to commemorate the defeat of nightmare moon
Looks at the comic origin story of Sombra with an elaborate explanation of such as I am bored and in need to write.
He was brought into the orphanage as he was just pacing around. The children made fun of him and shit as he was never a crystal pony. But he bonded with a filly there named Raident Hope. She understood him, knew what he was going through. The crystal heart always caused him to be sick, every year, he laid in bed, a mess, with his best friend by his side each time. Later, the desire to see the heart overtook him, he sprouted into dark magic, with Hope blasting him with her magic to the point she gained a cutie mark of a caduceus; which to sum it up, means healing. So, she brought him back. Later, the Princesses invited Hope to study with them as she has such powerful medical/healing magic, which in Sombra's words, "She had the potential to become a princess." So, he bolted off into the snow, finding a magic crystal that resembles the alicorn amulets color; this object also claims to be his mother. She blasts him with devilish power. He steals the crystal heart, and at the time, Princess Amore is the ruler of the Crystal Empire. Amore does try to reason with him, however, that does not work. He just blasts her and turns her into stone. Radiant Hope saw the whole thing, to which, she sobbed and also tried to talk sense into Sombra, although, his approach was different to Hope than it was with the princess, as Sombra basically a proposal to Raident without the ring, "Now that I've found my power and you're on your way to becoming a princess. I will bring them under my hoof. I will find my people. And you can rule by my side." She runs off, and he enslaves the empire but lets her go.
In the Return of King Sombra, he comes back, and Hope finds him. She is the only one who he lets touch him in any way, shape, and form, as well as talk with him without chains like every other pony has with Sombra. Now, after, he begins to take over with the main six as well as the princesses coming to demolish his ass, only to get thrown into cages. After taking control of the empire with the help of Crystalise as well, Sombra goes to the castle. Cadence is hiding around and runs into Hope. And she tells her the full backstory of the crystals and what Sombra's mission is all about. They go on a Lewis and Clark type expedition, finding out everything about the castle. They accidentally run into Sombra along with the gucci gang known as the main six. Twilight goes ballshit insane and tries to blast Sombra, with Hope jumping in front of him. She gets knocked out and Sombra turns into an insane madlad once he realizes they hurt her. Releasing all the 'monsters' he had trapped behind a stone door. Capturing the main six, as well as the royals. After, he checks up on Hope, she gets pissed at him for wanting to rule the world, and how she does not wish to be his empress. Giving him a lecture on how she gave up everything to be there for him, how she gave up her princess status to find him once he went missing. Skip a bunch of drama between the fighting couple, we move on to all of motherfuckin' poneville taking over, so they place the crystal heart back in its place, free Sombra of his dark magic along with the help Hope who was the one who saved him, as beliving in him is what counted as such. And he becomes a normal unicorn king. Eventually, Hope and Sombra went off together to live their happily ever after.
So in conclusion my lads. Sombra was never an alicorn, the princesses were already grown once he was a teenager/young adult. He and his girlfriend could've had princess platinum if you wanted to make an AU, as they were a couple in the comics, however, it wouldn't work for the timeline. The video is radical, but the comics give you the real story. I would suggest checking them out, they are very compelling, in fact.
Why are dark colored creatures always the enemy. Chrysalis, Tirek, Sombra, Tempest and even Changlings who turn light after their reforming. The only exception being cozy glow. This is so annoying how they portray dark as evil and good as light
But what if the earned ones came from the amulet that had been sealed? I would imagine the magic coming from the amulet towards twilight forming her wings.
I wonder if it's possible to unseal that amulet, and reform it into good magic instead of the original evil one. If that would work, maybe it would be a way for Sombra to be reformed
@VarAnova Of course they could, it’s just a matter of how. Star Swirl couldn’t but he was just one pony. And I think since the alicorn magic was never his to begin with they could free the magic but not King Sombra. Plus he would just turn evil again if he was craving power
Actually a pony gets allicorn magic one they’ve reached a goal they accomplished for their future, and one they’ve accomplished it they get they wings (or horn not sure if a unicorn can only turn into an alicorn )
Wait... if a UNICORN can just become an alicorn by absorbing magic then WTF could DISCORD have done?! When he was a “villain” he was really going easy on the mane 6
adding up from your story I think Sombra actually brought the tribes together and became an Alcorn by being crowned by the people and then later became evil after losing true love
Wait...so how old is tall, dark and grim then. If he was banished by freaking starswirl and staged a coup against the sisters when they were young. Also what was stopping him from going alicorn again after starswirl went to limbo.
Now that we know the origin of the alicorn amulete I want to now the origin of the thing that corrupted rarity. And you said "alicorn" first but then you said "unicorn"
Instead of making content on already existing, mysterious and interesting characters, they made a movie that basically tosses everything that happened in mlp out the window
I don't know who Sombra is but he sounds cool because I never watched my little ponies you're the only person who ever got me interested so yeah that's all I've got to say cool channel though
hey sawtooth! i dont know if this has been thought about before, but in magical mystery cure, right after when twilight becomes an alicorn, celestia holds a little speech where she mentions six attributes: charity, compassion, devotion, integrity, optimism and leadership. maybe those are what the young six represent, like the pillars also represent different things than the mane six. what do you think?
The comics were never been explicitly stated as Canon in the Cartoon Universe. Moreover, Sombra's past in "Fiendship is Magic" had its own follow up story in the FiM comics issue #34 - 37 also known as the "Siege of the Crystal Empire" which is very different from his canon appearance in the episode "Beginning of the End". Moreover, the "Fiendship is Magic" comics can be disproven in the Canon universe, much like how issue #2 aka the Dazzlings backstory was disproven in the episode "Shadow Play". Lastly the existence of the Umbrum was never alluded in the show proper nor was any character named Radiant Hope, therefore there is no evidence pointing to his backstory in the Comics, making this theory very viable.
@The 13th Googler Dang, that's too bad. I do really love the comics but with the show having a solid 9 seasons, it's bound to disprove the comics. I'm currently doing a re-watch so I definitely don't remember all of that. My bad.
I know this is a year after but what if king sombra was the prince in the love story with the princess and when the princess fell outta love he went crazy and took over the crystal empire
I like this theory. It would be interesting to explore the alicorn amulet further. Like maybe part of him remains in the amulet and when the crystal empire returned the amulet came back which allowed Trixie to find it which caused sombra to reawaken partly allowing discord to bring him back as grogar. Idk just something I thought of
I think the amulet originally corrupted Sombra he lost amulet but was permanently corrupted I don’t think he was ever an alicorn and it explains his possible color change
Maybe the horn shape depends on where the ponies come from. Like for example mistmane looks like she came from Asia, and in mistmanes legend u can see that everyone in the empire had curved horns.
@Alexandra Adamczyk Maybe they haven’t finished the series yet?? Or they forgot her name? Don’t assume they haven’t watched the show because of one detail.
Mistmane probbaly came from a different ancient ponies tribe similar to Crystal ponies. Maybe they still exist somewhere in Equestria that we just didn't know. They didn't look much different but nevertheless different like how crystal ponies could be recognize by their eyes shape. Probbaly a tribe or sub-species of Unicorn, The design of of Mistmane's tribe horn and the Sombra was also different with Mistmane's tribe resemble the asian dragon's horn and Sombra look more like a devil's horn. The Mistmane's tribe magic was probbaly specialized on "asian magic" and dragon unlike the unicorn that more resemble to what we know as "european" with the history of knight, princess and medieval king. You know i considered the Crystal ponies as ancient sub-species ponies like if Earth ponies had connection to the earth and nature, the crystal ponies had connection to the mineral called crystal, specificaly the crystal heart and as far as i can remember from the the Siege of Crystal Empire and Crystalling episode, their appearance depend on their mood like if their sad they will became dull and this allowed them to empower the crystal heart with their emotion by channelling it through the crystal that make up their land. Remember the comic also introduced Thestral Ponies with evidence from the cannon show being that Luna continue to used guard that have bat-like wing as her personal royal guard even after she returned to being alicorn and not nightmare moon anymore.They have bat like wing and live on the night, i considered them a sub-species of Pegasi but the night version.
I know who can reform him. Trixie, think about it both were humillanted by powerful unicorns. Trixie can convice Sombra that you can be happy not being the first one, that defend your pround not always is the right chose
I just have to say- you are so incredible at weaving stories! It may not be "official" canon, but I'm definitely going to think of this theory every time.
You know on your video about how Twilight and cadence don’t have flying hair like the Royal sisters well if you watch carefully in season 9 for example where luster dawn thinks that friendship is a waste of time you see that twilight has a flying floating hair
I don’t wanna know why I remember this episode it was about king sombra past and it was really snowy and king Sombra fell in a hole and he 💀 And he came back corrupted but this episode never existed
Can you make a video on what happened to Princess Platinum & maybe the other tribe leaders in her time???? Connecting this vid it would explain alot of interesting stuff UwU!
Imagine instead of King Sombra it was Prince meaning he had some family of high royalty Edit: ok I put this wayyyy before I watched the video cause I had my own theory turns out we had the same idea lol
Maybe the shadowy thing is made from jealousy? Considering sombra if so got it from jealousy of the sisters, and luna got it from jealousy of celestia, tho isk how that little kid pony fits into this, havent watched that season yet
It look's like a cameo to the my little pony series: A Heart's warming eve episode!! (Almost....) The 3 tribes don't.. like each other!! From the origin of ponyvile!!
A question that came to my mind. Do we know which fight came first? The one against Discord or the one against Sombra? Most timelines i saw showed the fight against Discord before the fight against Sombra. But do we have evidence that it was that order and when yes, whay didn't the Princesses use the Elements?
I got a theory about why Starlight Glimmer wanted the cutie marks if she has the magic of earth pony’s, Pegasus, unicorns and 1 allicorn she would have became an ex - allicorn (but in her eyes she would have became Princess Starlight Glimmer)
No, I think that isnt true.. I think whats really happen is: Sombra was the one of the students of Princess Amore(Princess before Cadence)and other students were Princess Cadence and one pony that i dont really know name, i mean- they were kids still, and Sombra were thinking that he doesnt have any magic but Amore was there for him, when they grown up a little bit, he tried to steal Crystal Heart but Amore came to him and told him that he dont need to do that because he already have magic and he have time to change.... Sad part is that.... He got mad and turned Princess Amore into a stone and broke her..... 🥺
I could be wrong but didn’t Mist Mane and a few other ponies have the same horn shape as Sombra so is he from the same place as Mist Mane and those ponies are from ?
It isn’t totally the end of Kings Sombra because Twilight sparkle on her friends to teach him to more times so with the elements of harmony first time she defeated them with crystal heart the second time she defeated him with the elements of harmony third time she defeated him was that a century because King Sombra destroys the elements of pop
I have a theory, 1. What if sombra himself is just like mistmane. Look at the horn, I think they are two related types of unicorn. I dont know if I am right but that is just my theory.
I liked this video, the story was great. It's just that I read recently Sombra's origin in this comic book called "My Little Pony: Fiendship is Magic" about the villain's origins, and the story was completely different.
You should make a video abt christilas (I think I spelled it wrong) I just watched a video where she was allied with Sombra when he was good and she was the OLD princess of love
This prompt 5:37 Just doesn't make sense how the heck would they know they could move the sun and moon? They cant just try randomly one day without the wizard's getting alerted And being like "WHY IS THE SUN AND MOON MOVING ON ITS OWN."
What WOULD make sense is If the sisters were artificially created by them And were born/created with both a horn and wings to symbolize the tribes and sun and moon More than two random unicorns that randomly stepped up.
And what about their cutie marks? Celestia and Luna would be above the age to get one by the time from the picture
SO, KING COBALT WAS DEAD AND BECOME INTO KING SOMBRA BECAUSE HE WAS JEALOUS OF THE TWO ALICORN SISTERS, AND WHEN SOMBRA/COBALT LOST HIS WINGS BECAUSE STAR SWIRL LOCKED COBALT'S MAGIC AND BECOME AN ALICORN AMULET AND LIKE THE KING IN PRINCESS TRIXIE SPARKLE, IT'S A UNICORN LIKE SOMBRA BECAME TO BE. SO, HE CAN'T RULE EQUESTRIA, BUT, IT IS SO UNFAIR THAT SOMBRA WAS TRYING TO RULE EQUESTRIA EVEN THOUGH HE WAS A UNICORN LIKE IN THE TWO EPISODE "THE BEGINNING OF THE END".
POV you dont read the comics lol an interesting thought tho I dont think he ever had wings if he did he probably would have got them back when discord brought him back
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Joy Bowen2020-10-26 02:28:33 (edited 2020-10-26 02:34:59 )
Sawtooth: how king sombra came to be...
YouTube: interruptes with a Hershey's commercial
Me: ah yes, king sombra came to be through a Hershey's chocolate bar.
Fun fact that you probably won't care about My second name is actually 'Kirshey' Yes my mom named me after her favorite chocolate (but obviously no one cares)
@Khalany btw its ads and no I don't have ads and a lot of people are saying different ads popped up but yeah I see a lot of the same ads on videos like they picked them.
King is a title so I believe if Cobalt is not his full name I would assume his name is cobalt honor, cobalt fury, or even cobalt night just to name a few
Wait(writing on paper)dear pricess twi,....he's really smart and a mad genius and i think you'll be great Friends with him,one of your students of the school of friendship,comet silvertail
Cool theory but I'd like to ask, are the comics MLP fiendship is magic Canon? Because they present their own version of the villains origin story including sombra. In that version his story is quite tragic
That actually makes a lot of sence if that really is what happened then your good at guessing I feel like they should make something to show that this is what happened.
This theory has a hole in it: sombra was banoshid wayyyyy before luna even before discord and the summer sun celebration became a thing after lunas banishment so yeah
I think 🧐 this is vary true but I am wondering 💭 what is cozy glows story I am going to make a video about that and about sombra I think he was the father of princess 👸🏻 platinum too it is really interesting 🤨 thanks 🙏🏻 for making this video.
way back when you first made the sombra-amulet connection my mind sort of immediately generated this theory that Sombra himself made the amulet to enhance his own magic to be more on-par with an alicorn, and the mental corruption it brings is a sort of failsafe, that Sombra is immune to because he's just.....like that already. But for anyone else who would come into possession of something meant only for him, it would bring nothing but disaster
Look at mist mane, and her back story, they aren’t normal unicorns, curved horns, I think Sombra is one of them. Like earth ponies, unicorns have there off species, a species that looks like them, but aren’t them. I hope you see this, and I hope this helps.
@Kalahari_PossumYeah! , now imagine him as a alicorn. I think his full power can equal 3 alicorns. If i went far it coulb be the same power that twillight has in her battle with tireck. (Sirry for the bad english)
@Alina Zhang Well it could be....only if we mix the comics with the show. There is a pony called Radian Hope and Mistmane kinda have her collors. Also she is taller and have a curve horn like sombra. The final resoult is that Mistmane is the lost dauther of Sombra.....yeah sounds crazy even for me
@Kalahari_Possum I know, but what I’m trying to say they are somewhat related, even if they are different species.Like how some apes, and humans have some similar features, and are somewhat related, even if they are different species.
@Kirk Lundberg that is very possible, but I think it had more to do with breeding, with what? I don’t know, maybe it was a a breed of pony that went extinct due to this breeding
@Kalahari_Possum the only bat ponys that I know of are luna's guards, and they could have been pegisi, magically made into bat ponys, bats are nocturnal so bat ponys are more effective at night. I don't know about unicorn off shoots but the ones we know about are mistmane, who is a pillar and sombra is... sombra.
@Kirk Lundberg Mist manes whole backstory has the same kind of unicorns as she is, so unicorns are successful too, and we know it’s possible to magically turn people into bat ponies, but there might be natural ones too
Mistmane’s horn kinda looks like a katana, considering the old and/or ancient japanese/chinese (cant remember where that type of sword came from) vibes I get when I watch the story.
Or maybe its just that thats wut unucorn horns looked like into the past -_- just look at when rarity rold the story of mistmane in one of the episodes second time they went camping with scootaloo, rainbow dash, apple bloom and applejack all of the unicorns had thise horns in the story
I have an add-on to the curved horned unicorns being in the past.
So, we all know that Mist Mane’s horn is curved, but there’s another unicorn that has a curved horn at the same time... Stygian. The unicorn who started the Guardians of Equestria or whatever they’re called.
It could be possible that curved unicorn horns could just mean that they’re stronger, but I’d just like to point that out.
@Aubrey Baird hybrids, exactly, they are hybrids, it may have been due to magic at first, but we can’t be sure. We also don’t know there exact origins, so either one of our theories could be correct
@Aubrey Baird with the crystal ponies I see what you mean, but with Mistmane, I think it’s just more of they are more powerful, since they have the flowing manes like Luna, Celestia (?) and now Twilight. It’s also entirely possible Bat ponies are lab creations, that became a bit more of a species. Also you don’t need to say no hate, I know you’re just saying your opinion :)
@Uᴏ5ᴀ Now I see what you mean, thank you for the correction, it could be possible that somewhere in the unicorn evolution Kirin were somehow created by breeding
@~lizzie~ that could be possible, and Sombra is just old, but I kinda like the theory that they were there own species, that are either in hiding or extinct, other then mistmane
i thought the summer sun celebration was the celebration of banishing luna to the moon so how would both sisters be there or it even existing at the time
Why then when Celestia Luna and cadence gave there alicorn magic to twilight did they not revert back to there prealicorn states? If stripping a alicorn of all three magic types reverts them what made the original three different
King Sombra: I'm gonna end the crystal empire's whole career, lol.
Princess Celestia And Princess Luna: We're gonna end this king's whole career, lol.
King Sombra: WHAT THE ACTUAL HAY!
King Sombra: If I'm banished then the crystal empire is banished with me, lol.
Princess Celestia And Princess Luna: WHAT THE ACTUAL HAY!
1000 years later...
Crystal Empire: Exists
King Sombra: I'm gonna end the crystal empire's whole career again, lol.
Mane 6 And Spike: No we are gonna stop you from taking over it again, lol.
King Sombra: No you're not, lol.
Spike, Princess Cadence, The Crystal Ponies And The Crystal Heart: We're gonna end this king's whole career, lol.
King Sombra: WHAT THE ACTUAL HAY!
7 seasons later...
King Sombra: Thanks for freeing me, Grogar. Now I'm gonna end the crystal empire's whole career again, lol.
Mane 6: No we're gonna end you're career with the elements of harmony, lol.
King Sombra: WHAT THE HAY!
King Sombra: I'm gonna end the tree and the elements of harmony's whole career, lol.
Mane 6: WHAT THE ACTUAL HAY!
King Sombra: Now I'm gonna end all of Equestria's career, lol.
Discord: I will help for a while.
Few minutes later...
Discord: What the hay I got hurt by his magic, Twilight and your friends can help save Equestria from King Sombra. You don't need me, you don't need the elements. You just need friendship, okay?
Mane 6: Okay, and King Sombra we have the power of friendship, to end your career permanently.
this is only to be read by sawtooth waves himself .
you know what I was so off on my theiry as that i thought he might have been half changeling and had been a banned and trend to the dark arts to seek revenge and power and I the process lost him self and as for the amulet mabey his power was growing week and the best way to preserve magic is by keeping it in an artifact he sacrificed some of his magic putting into the artifact and after being banished as we know can not be completely permanent he hide the artifact till his safe return return
omg as a kid a saw an animation on how king sombra could have happened I forgot what it was called but it was like a Jack frost thing with him being dragged under the ice by the shadow thingy, it's called a tall of one shadow
@AlfieTheChucky>AFanboy the crystal heart only has the power to push back something ( proven in season 3,6,9). 3 it was cadances magic that was keeping the empire safe. In the end it comes down to the Crystals pony’s light and hope to empower the crystal heart and use is it to push back whatever it is. (Like the frozen north, sombra and the darkness of sombra). Not sure if that makes sense..
Well I have my own theory that he used to work for cream? I'm sorry Queen Chrysalis because the horn is like the fourth change wings performed change lanes reformed Changeling sorry about that so I think he used to work for queen Queen Chrysalis because he's so evil and he wants to dream power from everyone like King bike pranks T-Rex sorry for the joke that's my day have a great day
Ok, its confirmed that Rarity is King Sombra daughter, but after her father "died" she left the kingdom and got adoted by kind parents who died at the festival for the Princesses
Sombra's Origin is clear but what about the Castle Of The Two Sisters what is Sombra haunts it because it's dark like Sombra and it's also scary to be alone with so Is King Sombra like in a other vid I gave you something about like why Chrysalis fooled everypony as Cadence
Yes but if king sombra the pony's magic and star swairl took the magic in to a gem but the magic inside the gem is for the pony's so maybe the pony's lost there power but got there power from the princesses
I like the theory that Sombra became an alicorn but my theory on Sombra's past and the alicorn amulet was that the older brother of Sombra, Prince Sombree was transformed into the alicorn amulet and King Sombra was furious about it and became evil, unaware that his brother did horrable thing to Equeastria.
@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo Oh! I didn't know that! Thanks :) But does that mean "Season 10" is non-canon or is it an exception? I've never gotten to read any of them so I'm not a great source lol
@AnnePixie Bettinger, not sure if season 10 might be an exception, but I’d assume the same rule applies were it should not be considered canon unless confirmed by Hasbro, this means that it could be made canon given there’s supposed to be another movie in 2021, but that you shouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t become canon.
@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo well that's the problem, Hasbro say the comic are cannon as long as what they stated in them dosen't conflict with the show's cannon. So what the basically say/confirm is that there is a ponyvers. The comcs are cannon in their way and the show is cannon as well.
@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo thought it was said that all the comics were canon unless it came into conflict with the show. Nothing in the show has conflicted with Sombra's backstory comic.
@SleepyBunnei, they never mention those events in the show, combined with no mention of an appearance of sombra after season 3 and before season 9 should be enough proof that it didn’t happen.
@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo umm no? Sombra was just neglected by the staff along with crystal empire itself. Like come on Sombra was in 2 premieres and thats it, and the crystal empire was more of a setting in a few episodes then it was to learn about it.
@SleepyBunnei at the end of the day it’s not canon, but I feel like that matters little, just because it’s not canon does not mean people can’t enjoy it, however it does mean Hasbro has no obligation whatsoever to do anything with it, which means that lacking lore is not a justification for it being canon.
@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo but it is. B canon literally means that its canon unless it conflicts with the show i e the shows says that its wrong not that it doesnt mention it
@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo actually, the comics are B-Cannon Meaning they are cannon if the story doesn't conflict with the show So all of Sombra's past is 100% cannon because it doesn't have any conflicts to a pre-existing backstory in the show
@T. B. Phillips it does not have to be shown in the show to be canon if Hasbro said the comics are B canon and it doesnt conflict with the show then its canon
i know im late,( like always)🤭 but i just wanted to say that i remember Trixie wearing that amulet when she came for revenge from twilight sparkle https://youtu.be/Xl2Ub7LmVlE?t=36
this YouTuber didn't do his research. Read the book 'The Journal of the Two Sister's.' It's about how Celestia and Luna REALLY became princesses. Most of this theory for Sombra was false, you have to read the comics.
Any reason why you constantly resort to the story about 6 unicorns raising the sun and moon? It was nothing more than a part of a play. And I'm pretty sure that it's even said in the episode itself that it isn't real history.
There can't be both the sisters in the summer sun celebration as it was celebrated cause of the defeat of night mare moon so Luna can't be there only Celestia can be there
Many fun ideas but not much in terms of proof. I’d love to learn more about this unicorn king but there’s some flaws with it being sombra.
Like, where princess platinum throughout this whole story? Wouldn’t she have noticed his studying of dark arts and tried to talk him out of it? If she didn’t know, why didn’t she seek answers after his banishment?
His lack of cutiemark can also throw a monkey wrench into the theory. If he was born unicorn, wouldn’t he have gotten his cutiemark by the time he was a stallion? While it is possible to reach adulthood without it within the canon, I find it hard to believe that he was uncertain about what he wanted to do. I suspect he could have gotten his cutiemark in this context when he became the crown prince of the unicorns, when he was coronated as king of the unicorns, when he first was removed from power, when he began studying dark magic, when he first gained all the magic that transformed him, when he was banished from equestria, or when he conquered the crystal empire. Most ponies eventually get them. But hey, maybe his purpose in life wasn’t ruling, studying dark magic, or being forever alone. Maybe the gem took his cutiemark, who knows.
Another issue is in the basis for the story. When Tirek came into equestria he was specifically able to take all types of pony magic. (Except for the magic of friendship but stay with me) He gets Cadence, Twilight’s, Luna’s, and Celestia’s magic. In those moments they have lost the magic that made them alicorns. But, they didn’t revert back to unicorns. What makes this different from cozy or sombra?
Me and my friend think that he’s half Kirin and used a spell to make him seem like a pure unicorn. The reason why Princess Platinum never found him practicing dark magic was probably that he just was like, “I’m gonna study normal, safe, and good magic. It’s pretty hard for me to learn new spells when ponies are watching me, though.” After Sombra’s banishment, she probably was shocked that her father was not the pony she though him to be. She probably didn’t want to talk about father after it. She isolated herself from the world after that.
Edit: The Princesses Alicorn wings and horns are permanent because they were provided by Starswirl’s spell. Cozy and Sombra horns/wings were taken away by Starswirls magic.
what about when you explained how celestia and luna became a alicorn because of star swirl? cuz in this video u said that as they rose the moon & sun and the other ponies gave their love then they became alicorns?? (srry if this doesn’t make sense)
Ah yo do unicorns horns just fall of like that? I mean if not it could that he still had some of the stolen magic left and that's what let him keep the horn
When you theorized about the elements of disharmony, the element of evil magic would be the alicorn amulet, and in this video starswirl kinda created the element of evil magic. So starswirl created the element of evil magic and magic
To be honest why isn’t Discord able to beat everyone. He is pretty much a good. His only flaw is his brain since he only thinks about chaos and only uses he’s magic for chaos well until he was reformed.
If you know can you do a crossover theroy about who from the main 6 and their elements would be represented by in the Winx fandom? More simply put- Which of the main 6 Winx girls would be which of the elements/Main pony 6. Please and thank you!
no more apples for you toot. time to let others have a taste of the apple now. because twilight and the mane 6 taught me it's better to share than using people for my own selfish gain.
Well there is a crystal pony that fell In love with sombre I watched The video when I was 6 now I'm 8 So yea.there is a crystal pony from The crystal empire that fell in love with king sombre. It started as they were kids but sombre grow wings and a horn while She grow a horn when they were teenagers sombre and her loved to Ice skate.When they were adults They went ice skating but the ice broke were she was standing Sombre pushed her out the way of the broke ice he fell into the water Until he was bite by a fish that gave him a strange feeling evry night after that he was transformed into the shadow sombre.Ever since then he was evil and was banished for his Darkness of shadow. But the love for sombre never Ever was destroyed.
what if the king sombra was the king of the crystal empire millennia ago? like, without being mean I think celestia gave him the unicorn amulet to him, because don't have men alicorns, to rule the crystal empire, but the amulet corrupted him
If you go on the time on the video 6:58 sombra got really mad and since night mare moon is a thing can’t luna turn into night mare moon with all that rage in her a type of force goes on luna and turns her in to night mare moon that is just me idk
In my dream I was kinda celestia and lunas son and killed zombra who had a fake name called apex and I take him down when I found out that apex really was zombra but took over a kaiju drone and I took him out by both my orbit oblivion and me scytheun in energy from the elements of harmony and the only thing left of zombra and the drone who had helped by holding zombra back but only zombra horn and the drones armour and head left and heres the thing apex back and had showed up and didn't fire his shattered shadow and he doesn't talked the zombra apex did
WHAATTT about the King Sombre & Queen Chrysalis Theory ( they def have some simliarties with the horns fangs and dark magic / eternity, both powerful could he be a changeling too . Where did the 2 princesses come from
There is something you need to know that in comic about king sombra's backstory.He is never a normal pony.He is something call shadow pony or something, I forgot, but all I can say is He never become Alicorn. According to comic call Sombra Rex
this is what happen sombra was a Alicorn then the sun and moon came and sombra lost hes wings and became bad and want to kill the moon and the sun and when he try the sun and the moon lock him up and he found the necklace and got out.
I never realized that he used to be a great king of the unicorns. Although he was bent on corruption, he was a respected leader, until the rise of the Royal Sisters exposed him.
It is never canonically confirmed that Sombra was the unicorn king as far as I'm aware, it just fits with the time line, and definitely makes sense for some parts
This makes sense but didn’t the summer sun celebration happen because celesta sent nightmare moon to the moon? Or is that something else my memory is a bit rusty
LOL this comment made my day! And where I live it is Friday! Or as my teacher likes to call it FriYAY AND today I had THREE tests and I got a good grade on all of them! Today my lucky day :> ( lol sorry I am a huge talker when I am alone )
@KystallBunny I’m glad I made you laugh! :D I’ve been home most of the time but tbh that’s exactly what I love to do lmao. Hope you have a good rest of your day!
I don't Sombra alone ruled the ponies of Equestria. Look at Celestia and Luna they ruled together. I think Commander Hurricane, Chancellor Puddinghead and Sombra ruled together.
I also think after Celestia and Luna became Princesses they asked the ruler of all tribes to advise and help them to move Equestria into a new era. Commander and Chancellor agreed but Sombra refused and said he wanted to move out of Equestria. The sisters let him go and he went. Soon Sombra found the crystal empire and the is history.
My point: Actually, King Sombra didn’t die, if you watch My Little Pony on Netflix, it only shows five seasons. Altogether there are I think nine seasons. And around season six or something like that,Shining Armour and Cadence had Flurryheart. And King Sombra returned
I think it's a really great theory, BUT we alredy know where he is from. I can't remember the name righ now, but there is a comic about him and his best friend Radiant Hope. There is also a comic where Radiant Hope and Princess Cadence talk to him and with the umbrum ponies. But I still love your theorys, it's mind blowing.
The comic series is called 'Fiendship is Magic' and the issue was the first one, if I remember correctly. There was also a sequel to these events in the main comic series, too. I wished that the comic creators and show creators actually worked together for consistency sake and not create what I call 'timeline continuity' issues. It's pointless to create a comic if it ain't going to follow the show's line of events.
On top of this, I always thought the sequel story was the most shining example of friendship's power in G4. It was the words of Sombra's childhood friend, Radiant Hope (not the Main Six and their rainbow beams) that defeats and reforms him in that case. It's such a shame that the show creators didn't focus on that.
This still doesn't explain his "resurrection", death feint by the elements, and how Discord even considered bringing back Sombra (Don't answer that last one)
Celestia and Luna are not naturally born Alicorns. The only naturally born Alicorn is Flury Heart (daughter of Cadences and Shining Amor ( Twilight's big brother)).
U do know the summer sun celebs took only started after Celestia banish Luna cuz Luna has been banished about a thousand years and according to twilight the first summer sun celebration we saw in the first episode is the 1000th summer sun celebration so yeh
I think you're wrong sawtooth. My theory is that Princess Platinum was indeed the daughter of the unicorn king, but I think sombra was actually platinum's older brother. My backstory is is that sombra was supposed to be the next unicorn king, but the crown skipped him, and went to his little sister. This made sombra very angry, so he set out to plan revenge; vowing that he would return more powerful than ever before. He found the crystal empire, stripped the crystal ponies of their magic, (taking wings and horns as well) and the rest is history. Drop a like if you agree.
@mothgirl™️ No. They added a 'brother' (Sombra and Platinum being siblings) into their 'theory' even though that idea/character/influence has no proof of existence in any MLP show nor comic in any relation to Sombra. That is already a fanfiction, even if they probably don't think so; it comes straight out of that person's creative mind, not by seeing the characters and/or background and connecting them. And that's the key. Existence and mention. A theory is supposed to try to add already existing things in literary/visual work together, like Sawtooths' theory of Sombra's possible wings by connecting the Alicorn amulets red-black colors, alicorn design and Sombra's very similiar palette and look. Its not limited just to visual things: Words too.
Platinum being 'Unicorn Kings' sister doesn't make any sense. It was clearly said both in this video and the episode that Platinum's father was that king/her being his daughter. If you would change that to a sibling relationship its once again- a fanfiction. It makes no longer any sense in this theory. It has become your creative work. It's the same thing with Wattpad fanfictions shipping ponies who don't seem to have any relation or distorting it into whatever they want.
Self-made characters and/or influences and distortions, whatever they are, out of someone's (creative) mind, (Sombra's siblinghood) do not make a theory to try to solve things. It only creates a fanfiction. On the other hand, this video in my opinion does make good reasonable points that are candidates for being true. It connects existing bits together (which point to very similiar bits and results and yada yada) already done in the show and now it leads to 2 paths: Confirmed or Wrong.
Platinum again. Since she's mentioned in the show (more importantly in Equestria's history), she was an existing character. We obviously don't know what she looked like but that kind of special mentioning is enough proof and context. Apparently she's the daughter of the 'Unicorn King' (also mentioned in the same way) and this king could have been Sombra. Especially when- you connect (random) bits together like he did if you just watch the video-
-Sawtooth explains it all and I won't repeat that. Obviously he also said more than me in this video.
First thing here crystal empire’s citizens don’t even have wings or horns they all are earth ponies second of all sombra never had a sister third thing sorry sawtooth but i dint even think he ever had a daughter and i think he was created by grogar as he knew the way how to bring him back to life
Once upon a time grogar thought that he will need someone to get magic from all three tribes to make him powerful enough as he was banished by gusty the great and he needed to get out so he got the shadow and used a spell to make a evil sinister unicorn which only looked like a unicorn so its easier to make the tribes manipulated then he sent him on the quest and told him about the most magical land of all times ‘ the crystal empire ‘ but he forgot to tell him to get only magic from the three tribes so sombra took over a empire of only earth ponies and had no problems with it he thought magic of the ponies and crystals then as he failed and was destroyed he was back to his shadow form from which grogar found him then the sisters trapped him in the ice and when they did so grogar got alerted knowing he had no power he waited for a thousand years and brought back the empire and sombra as he didn’t knew that that empire had only earth ponies sombra when came back also was defeated then in the end of the end be got sombra back faster as he was free then sombra refused to join forces with his very own founder because he was over realmed by power of the empire and fortunately for us he was defeated and that was the end of king sombra and this actually matches the best with the cannon
Mohd Ghazali2020-10-29 01:51:10 (edited 2020-10-29 01:54:37 )
@•H H• No, your is much weirder than Sawtooth. Second, Crystal Ponies was different from earth Ponies, it was evidence by their eyes and even Princess Celestial said their empires was very ancient and much older than the existant of Equestria itself. Thirdly, it was actually weird that you proposed that Grogar told him to go to Crystal Empire, yeas it was magical but they only had crystal ponies which is a seperated ponies tribe that have built their civilization much earlier, it would make much more sense if that was the first place to started but you relies on Grogar "forgot" which don't male any sense. Fourthly, you theories relies heavily to "forgot" like Grogar forgot to tell him to get magic from the three ponies tribe. Fifthly, King Sombra lore clearly said he rule the Crystal Empire with iron fist and cause many Crystal Ponies suffered, when the twin Alicorn came and defeated him the entire empire dissapeared with him which you haven't explained. Sixthly, in the final season, The Beginning of the End - Part 1, Sombra is restored by Grogar to join him in an alliance with other villains so they can conquer Equestria together and defeat Twilight and her friends once and for all. However, Sombra tries to take over Equestria by himself and, despite being able to destroy the Tree of Harmony and the Elements of Harmony and conquer both Ponyville and Canterlot, he is defeated again by the Mane Six. A that time, he doesn't recognized nor shocked with appearance of Grogar, he just believe that he didn't need anyone help. Seventhly, Grogar and Gusty the Great was ancient tale that exist long before the three tribe, it was clearly said the very beggining and King Sombra rule Crystal Empire during the existence of Equestria which the time span between the arrival of King Sombra and Grogar was far too long, in fact even Princess Celestial didn't know anything about Grogar and Gusty the Great but she know very well about King Sombra except his origin. Eightly, create an evil sinister unicorn ? That is far to vague and how did Grogar even created him, using whose magic when he was defeated by Gusty the Great, sealed and his magic was sealed alongside his bell which were sealed with no power ? If he was still able to created Sombra after his defeated and seal, why he didn't go anyfurther than Sombra. Beside the Grogar defeat at the hand of Gusty the Great was far a vague story and we didn't anything about both of them. Your theories relies on imagination. Personally Sawtooth theory make much more sense. Beside i prefer his theories than even the comic book cause i feel it was weird that he easily embrace the Umbra's fate just by meeting his so-called Umbras mother and leave Radiant Hope without even a second thought. It also leave a room about who is his father and how on earth he have a sex a with the Umbras which supposedly sealed under the Crystal Empire and why it was sealed under the Crystal Empire ? Shouldn't they move or sealed it on a different place cause it was to dangerous ? It also created a whole different question who is the Umbras and where did they came from. Beside, the Umbras theories relies heavily on the Stygian and Pony of Shadow and King Sombra could turn to shadow. There were no evidence of it's existence throughout the canon material. Even the comic that produced the comic book was indenpendence from Hasbro and the comic was created as Hasbro decided to keep his origin a mysterious. There also leave a question on how King Sombra turn Princess Amore to Black Crystal Statue and break him and if thatw as Umburm magic, then why he didn't use against Spike. There also this " the umbrum army underground and scatters the fragments of Amore's statue across the world so she cannot be restored in time to stop him" which the comic didn't deal. Finaly, in the FIENDship is Magic Issue 1, it was very clear that Twillight and Cadance read King Sombra's diary but it was started with how he was found and named and ended with Sombra knowing his defeat by Celestia and Luna is imminent, he enacts a terrible curse, and how Radiant Hope is forced to watch as her home vanishes. It was based on a book they found underneath of the Crystal Palace. So, who write the diary and what is the fate of Radiant Hope ? What does that red crystal have to do with the Umbrum? What really happened between the Crystal Ponies and the Shadow Ponies? In fact in the continuation of the comic Friendship is Magic Issue 37# Radiant Hope leave Equestria and go into the world of Umbrum and learn everything about them and return to invade Equestria and Crystal Empire, she also revived back Sombra and it end with how Twillight defeat her and she and Sombra became a good and they redemmed themselve by traveling the world to find the fragment of Princess Amore that scattered across the world and this is clearly doesn't work with the final season. Hasbro also clearly ignored the comic story line. Of course there are those who proposed a theories to reconciled the canon storyline with the comic.
You are absolutely wrong what you want the king Jivan fighting organs shadow in winter thank u broke dice impel down in the river hand Shadow and Shadow joint him that's how we became
@Sawtooth Waves Hi, I really liked the theory, it was aswome, but I think, that on the summer sun celebration, when he got the magic, he got corrupted, because remember season 4 premiere, Zecora asks Twilight to use alicorn magic, and she uses Sombra "Dark" magic. That's how Luna, and Celestia can turn into Nightmare Moon and Daybreaker, becuase the acess to all their alicorn magic. Hope you read this!!
Wait but I have a question. If to be an alicorns means get a lot of magic, when all the princess lost their magic in the Tirek episode, how come they didn't become unicorns/pegasi?
I feel like if alicorns give their magic willingly or get taken from them, their physical features stay. But if they become so horrible they are not deserving of being royalty, they lose either their horn, wings, or both.
That was bothering me too. I just don’t think cozy glow was a true Alicorn, since Luna and Celestia did not revert back to their original forms after being hit by grogar’s bell and cozy glow did. I think she just got a lot more powerful. We also do not know if it was the tribes magic or Grogar’s that made cozy glow into a temporary Alicorn. Oh this is becoming a bit of rant, but yeah, that’s what I think..
Karl Hnedkovsky2020-10-23 20:13:53 (edited 2020-10-23 20:16:05 )
2:38 I like how quick you were to turn around, when you argued against the IDW comics for Sombra's Umbrum origins, and then used a diffrerent issue of the same IDW comics, to try to prove why!
Also, trying to put Luna's transformation into NM as proof of another way of becoming an alicorn holds no water, as she was an alicorn to begin with!
Or a summer and Alcorn he has that look bitch that metal on his body he has like little wings but like he has big wings but they just can’t see them but he’s obviously probably not there’s no boy pony our coats
hello sawtooth as a fello brony I wanna give you a video idea becuase I wanna see what you think is'nt it wierd that sombra and luna both have a bit of control over nightmares I realised this and wanted to let it know to you I know you might not read this but I hope some peaple read this and start theorising
King cobalt... to king sombra.. Princess platnium. Rarity is my suspicion. I think that rarity is the daughter of King Cobalt! Why was sbe played as princess plantium?? I will also make a maybe ugly pic but a drawing of rarity mom and pla make a vid where that drawing and sombr- i mean cobalt met and had a daughtter rarity and her long lost brother
But where’s his cutie mark? .-. We have never saw his mark- Am I right? Or not? It’s just wierd that he has the jacket or what it calls- I’m wondering what it will look like- (Think about it)
Wait there is death so there should be a grim ripper i saw in Ben ten that a crystal palace s the backup drive for a entire planet so i think grim reaper must heve something' like that
The theory my friend had is that King Sombra is a changeling that ruled the empire with Crystalis and then Cadance took over and Sombra was banished and it made Queen Crystalis so mad she turned on the ponies for taking away her husband and kingdom. Now this is what we believe and it's just a theory she made (Okay I don't remember if this is exactly how she said it but it's something like that)
why he wants to take back whats hes: he born another pony but it was a alicorn for the next episode in netflix my little pony make you mark that alicorn makes hes dad proud by pulling away the crystals agian!
This looks like a really good theory! But, I created a story on Wattpatt about when sombra battled a pony named General Pico. quote: "I will put you back toghether. always" This means that Sombra is alive!
Just like the gym Steven Universe King Sombra got corrupted pain and suffering he's horn sturgeon point shishu Steeps sharpened then as teeth sharpened when will rat I mean well
Hmm what about an episode where discord or the three villans come back and take over you channel for a few days but discord gets a week cause you know he's a good draconaquist and then have fluttershy take care of discord and Celestia and Luna take care of the V3
Umm, i might be stupid but wouldn’t there be no summer sun celebration if Luna hadn’t been banished yet? Since they created the celebration to mark nightmare moon’s defeat so I’m not sure where sombra would get his magic from. I don’t think Luna wasn’t there when sombra first appeared since she was there when they defeated him.
Why doesn't Sombra have a cutie mark, and why does his mane still flow. Why does some unicorns like Mistmanes mane flow but all alicorns manes flow but cozy glows and Cadences Doesn't.
When sawtooth fakes death : * pretends to die from poison. Me: * rolls up in a ball and starts crying * Sawtooth : Uhhhhh I’m still alive it was a joke. Me : does it for 10 strait days *. I’m saying this so he doesn’t fake death
Sawtooth ! great he is corrupted 🙁😔😒 good thing me and my friend are female and male alicorns i am ready sawtooth don't worry we will fix this problem don't worry we are coming to turn you in your normal form 🦄🦄
The first, thing that we hear of Queen Chrisalys, is what Cadence says
"She's a changeling. She takes the form of somepony you love and gains power by feeding off your love for them."
She has very intresting powers:
Mind contrlot (to Shining armor)
Turn into any pony or creature
Create copies of ponies
Blast magic Levitate Love draining
Changelings are a race this is clear and Chrisalys creates changelings with eggs
Chrisalys was a pony princess
How??
Well, let's remember this story:
" Apparently, some prince a long time ago whipped up this recipe and gave it to this princess he liked. He meant it to be a love potion, but things didn't turn out so well.
Well, there's something here about a dragon, the kingdom falling, chaos reigning... Okay, apparently it was all because the prince and princess were so lost in each other's eyes that they couldn't perform their royal duties. "
Ok, so I think that Chrisalys, was the princess, and dragons attacked the kingdom, she was forced to hide, when she went out she found the prince dead, so she turned into her Nightmare version, but she was desesperated to get love because of the poison she had, she went, and found, some ponies, and with a spell drained their love.
With time she could not survive without love.
She had to conquer Equestria, but she would need help.
She learned how to shapeshift, and then created the first changeling, then she created a whole army.
She tried to attack Equestria but Celestia defeated her.
With time Chrisalys forgot her origin.
Probably Chrisalys castle, was her castle as an alicorn
Yes it is very crazy, and probably not true
@Mlp Lost Content Good theory But i wanna Say i love Changelings But Im obses with Queen Chrysalis and what if King Sombra will fight her for the Crystal Empire
I was actually studying and I have a test tomorrow but nahhh I need to watch this FYI where I live it's 10:12 o clock and I've been studying since 3 o clock with a 1 hour break.... Geez I feel better about this test
4:02 the Unicorn King can't be Sombra. In the novel, The Journal of the Two Sister's, it says that King Bullion is the Unicorn King and that Princess Platinum is his daughter, Sombra isn't mentioned in the book at all.
On the future king sombra love. Luna and have a baby so what else bring it to be bad just because he's jealous the same it he can destroy the unit the beautiful land the the crystal empire is still notice of hearing sombra to crystal love win twilight in his friend disappear king sombra where did you went 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Umm 🤔 I think is have a only Five alicorns the first one is Celeste second Luna third cadence fourth is twight light firth is furry heart I think is it, what about you the one who say to me who the new alicorn?
!theory! The Student Sixs May be Letting a new magic be made the magic of Connection and the Student Sixs May soon be „connecting“ all Spieces in the my Little Pony universe
I lean towards the theory that he was the one that created the amulet in the first place like an mlp Sauron, with with his thing for crystals he would have been able to infuse his dark power into it, remember how it slowly drove Trixie more and more power hungry? So to me that sounds just as plausible as the alicorn angle
The thing is, when Sombra was reintroduced in the season 9, I thought he was going to be this serious villain. But so many things turned me off from him. First his voice was too comically high born rich nobility sounding and second is he felt like a joke for the most part, when he was introduced in season 3, he felt truly menacing and scary. But I felt like his role in Season 9 wasn't that, I felt like, that even though he did those things he did, he wasn't the real threat. He felt like some comical rich guy type villain, you know, the type of people who think because their rich or of a high standing, they can be mean, treat people terribly then want things handed to them on a silver platter, plus the type that are too pompous, self-centered, and arrogant that they end up losing, because they are?
He just felt too much of a joke to me. If he was voiced by Keith David and was much more serious/menacing, I feel like it will match him perfectly.
What if the way his horn looked was because the amount of magic he taken was to much straining him. And because of that the heat and force permanently scarred his horn.
Just read the MLP comics to supplement your pony lore. Since it's still ongoing (continuing as season 10), its canon isn't less legitimate. Season 10, episode 1 starts on issue 89.
I think I read a comic when I was younger. I can't remember all of it but he was in the crystal empire orphanage. I think at one point there was another Alicorn who he turned to stone and destroyed him. But going off of you idea If he does turn into an Alicorn then I think he inherited her power when he destroyed her.
So what you're suggesting is that King Bullion (that's the unicorn king's officially given name) was rendered an obsolete leader when Celestia and Luna starting moving the sun and moon, he ran off and left behind everyone he knew, including his daughter, transformed himself into a magical unicorn Darth Vader, came back a long time after to pull what Nightmare Moon would pull in the series premiere, Tireked the pony population to ascend to an alicorn, got that magic Bewitching Belled into a rock by Starswirl (prior to him banishing himself along with the other Pillars and the Pony of Shadows), put on a cape to hide the scars made from his wings getting magically plucked, found the Crystal Empire, deposed the queen (what did he do, shank her in her sleep?), ruled the Empire for a short time before Celestia and Luna came along and turned him into a umbrum, and everyone over the generations agreed to never again speak about who he was or the name he had as the benevolent unicorn king? Not even a peep (or a page in a book) about his fall from grace? Also, what's with him being a blank flank?
By the way, the Summer Sun Celebration was only invented after Luna became Nightmare Moon and got banished to the inside of the moon, being a commemoration of her defeat by Celestia. Before then, they were just raising the sun and the moon without making a big deal out of it.
I like that theory but another one I thought of on the fly is if you look at Mistmane her horn and the horn of the unicorns around her have the same curved horn of Sombra and if you remember correctly the unicorn that was crowned empress said she took her power so maybe sombra was the unicorn that she took it from and he wanted power and took over the crystal empire. It’s just a guess though based on the horn look
to this day i still wonder about Princess Platinum.. was she Celestia and Lunas mother? did King Cobalt threaten to kill hes grand daughters? was she just as power hungry as her father? whatever happened to Princess Platinum?
Question...if Sombra was Cobalt wouldnt that mean Sombra had a daughter? Like what would happen if his daughter lived to see her father turn completely evil
I was waiting for him to say that at the end "well until a chaos god dead goat brought him back so he could troll his friends but you get the point" hahahahahahahha
Idk if this is true or anything but I’m pretty sure when Trixie was so jealous of twilight for learning magic and whatever she went to a random shop and bought a amulet that looked like that one that wizard dude had and she used it she had power to do anything but she didn’t get wings which I was wondering would sombra get wings if “HE” used it and not some commoner pony like trixie?!
Hi I'm Harlow I think how the story happened was Sombra had no friends so he looked for some in cantaloupe he found Luna and became friends then when she was vanished to the moon Sombra became sad and mad he turnd in to King Sombra
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Bond M32020-12-31 08:08:35 (edited 2020-12-31 08:09:02 )
I actually liked the way that you came up with this story origin of king sombra,sawtooth waves xxxx from bond m3,bro hoove!
If you see, nightmare moon's horn isn't bent but if you see the Mist mare or mane or something she also has a bent horn and everyone from that land, I think he was an emperor from that place or something
Its canon in the comics series that sombra was born and designed specifically to dethrone princess Amore and take over the crystal empire, he's a creature of shadows with no cutie mark and weak to the crystal heart's power
what if celestia and luna became alicorns because the were able to move the sun and moon,and what if sombra has a moving mane because he was practicing dark magic and the more he was doing that the darker and more evil he becomes...
Im pretty sure summer sun celebration only came to be after luna's banishment. It's an awesome theory i quite like but i think the summer sun celebration part doesn't work out? Idk
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Christina Gordon2021-02-10 04:29:07 (edited 2021-02-10 04:30:35 )
Didn't the king ask luna to join him, be with him. Plus he didn't seem to know about Luna power
i was thinkin about sunset shimmer's cutiemark, doesnt it partially have a yin-yang symbol in it? so shouldnt she partially be the symbol of unity of both the pony and the human world? i mean if so that must be the reason she hasnt bumped into her duplicate in the human world by now. right?
That pony I gave Estelle the power first which is also Luna sister to when Estelle how to spell it in love with him but she told her everything she became the queen that's why
2:46-3:11 Uh, hold it right there, bub. "No umbrum creatures"? Uh, it's in what I call the Sombra Arc of the MLP FIENDship is Magic comic book series, that tells the whole back story of Sombra. How do I know? I watched all the videos for those MLP comics, that another YouTuber posted. Thank goodness they did, or I would have to actually BUY the copies myself, before knowing if I would actually LIKE them or not. Turns out I don't like the comics...I LOVE them!
And, uh, regarding the Unicorn King? I read in the book "Journal of the Two Sisters", that the unicorn king's name is King Bullion, so that knocks Sombra right out of the loop there.
Why Celestia can never be princess bc Estelle Celestia's bigger sis was trapped in the map that you can see in the castle because the pony you had made them to for 3 is a mortal so you didn't die Estelle had trapped him in the tree of Harmony
It fits just fine but it doesn't fit the changeling queens (forgot her name) story...? So I don't think that is right but it sounds totally believeable I will give you that. 🦄
good story But how did star swirl know I think His daughter told star swirl because Princess Platinum thought he cared about power more than his daughter so when she heard about what happened she took her revenge by telling star swirl But that's what I think so yeah. no hate please
I think king sobra was a king once and every Pegasus, unicorn, pony gavE him love and he got his magic from that than then a new queen/king took over than he got the alicorn amulet and it took away his nice form and his alicorn than he became a evil unicorn so yeahhhhh
Something doesn’t add up, because celestia celebrated the first summer sun celebration AFTER Nightmare Moon’s defeat, to celebrate Nightmare moon’s defeat. So idrk.
Wait what if his daughter changed her name and ruled the crystal empire yes I am talking about princess who rules the crystal empire I mean what if she got her mom's looks and stuff it would make sense because if sombra changed his name to sombra maybe his daughter did the same as her father but then again a father would never hurt his daughter well some dads do that in our world so maybe her father abused her and then left her before she ruled the crystal empire
you are rightI know it because I fear I sit and I watched it over and over I watch My Little Pony over and over a thousand times I Got King Sombra and everyone right Thiriy
@Kara Robinson makes sense. But if the king's magic was put in an amulet because he could create black crystals in season 9 and in season 3, (when he appears)? I think it's more probable that he's another kind of creature, not a unicorn, maybe a minotaur since tirek (which is a minotaur) has no cutie mark.
I you are most likely right because in the play The unicorns send there princess instead of there king. why do they send there princess instead of there king👸
This is what I think but rarity Is not his daughter and I listen to your hole story But according to this Mlp should of did another episode where that he turn good and but they didn’t And you should work for Mlp
Me: there’s so many people that are villains I mean like sunshine shimmer But she’s good now! And starlight glimmer! But she’s good now! Nightmare moon I mean she really haven’t changed... She’s just a different carecter in mlp Nightmare moon : am I a joke to you?! Me: Urumqi maybe ya BIG FAT BULLY XD Nightmare moon:>:0 Celestia: that’s right Me: YA JUST GOT ROASTED NIGHT MARE MOON OR SHOULD I SAY NIGHTMARE LOSER LOL 😂
Okay so this is not related at all to this video but i just wanted to say it cause i'm bored' So.. you keep saying alicorn's are a mix with other pony's....but unicorns and Pegasus are also... So here is what i mean.... Horns and earth pony's mixed..and wings and earth pony's mixed thus making unicorns and pegesus Then all three mixed together creating alicorn's ..So earth pony's are the start of everything..but what about Crystal pony's..I think Crystal's mixed with the earth pony's making Crystal (Pony's)..So what i'm saying here is that horses or earth pony's are the start and it was a world with just regular horses and..other creatures but those don't matter what i'm saying is that people take earth pony's for granted and fail to see the upmost importance of earth pony's Just saying-
You are saying that King is not only a king but really is a queen or a daughter at least and I noticed something they have a case number has had ever seen a pony in Townsville except really why is that
you knoe the like thig i forgot the name but she need the power of that love and its like a butterfly and zombra might be merryed sorry im still little but im in uear 1 so they might be the two lost wueen and king👸🏿🤴🏿
That’s not how aware we already know how it goes yeah that is how it goes but the king is not part of it so you are wrong the king and a part of it already know we saw the episode of that make your show so you arse are nuts right but the king is not part of it so they didn’t show us at the show never lie yeah but I don’t know why there’s clones I think this is like I think they I think my brother yeah
Sorry to shatter this but...Sombra was never once an Alicorn. In fact he isn't actually a real pony. Read the Fiendship is magic Sombra issue comic from idw. He was born from shadows, or the umbrum. And he was never a father. But, the comics do reveal that in the span of the show, Sombra was sucessfully reformed, with the help of his old, dearest friend Radiant Hope, and they even set out to put back together the first crystal princess, Amora.
Love the video! One question though how do you think Cadence gets put into this scenario? Her cutie mark is the crystal heart so is she the daughter of or a descendent of the former rulers of the crystal empire before Sombra took over? Or is she a descendent of Sombra himself? And if she is the daughter of the former rulers how did she escape from the curse maybe since she was born a Pegasus and where did the crystal ponies even come from? Perhaps its like Romeo and Juilet maybe love between ponies of the other 3 tribes when they were separated was forbidden and those who broke it were stripped of their wings and magic being called a disgrace and cast off to set an example where they found the land blessed with crystals that blessed them into crystals as long as they kept love in their hearts its far fetched but I would love to see how you would think Cadence would tie into this and why Celestia chose her to rule the Crystal Empire maybe she heard about the long lost princess and recognized her or maybe she just took a random Pegasus with strange magic to rule an entire empire but if so thats an unwise decision anyway what do you think? Sorry for the long comment.
You might wanna change some details in the story: The Summer Sun Celebration represents the banishing of Nightmare Moon, as Celestia says in "The Summer Sun Setback"... no Celebration before Nightmare Moon.
Okay. The story you thought about is really creative and yes, it really fits the timeline PERFECTLY. But I don't think Sombra is a Pony though. In the show we cannot see if Sombra has a cutie mark, so we can't exactly tell. But remember the shadow pony Stygian transformed into? The shadowpony itself was a dark magic surrounding Stygian and I think Sombra might actually be the same. Just with no pony inside him. I think Sombra is a dark shadow coming from beyond equestria, maybe even from another dimension, transformed into the creatures that live in Equestria.
Oh and btw The Crystal Empire is in Equestria, not outside of it :P
So let me get this straight- King Sobra was ruler of the Unicorn tribe then the tribes all formed one tribe then the Wizards could no longer raise the sun and moon then Celestia and Luna came along and volunteered to raise the sun and moon and then they became alicorns causing King Sombra to lose his title as the King of the Unicorns he then studied ancient magic and became stronger then during The Summer Sun Celebration instead of the two Sisters, Sombra took all the Unicorns, Pegasus, and Earth ponies magic to overthrow the Sisters and Starswirl had managed to stop King Sombra banishing him from Equestria and Starswirl couldn’t return the magic King Sombra had corrupted and put the magic into the gem and then put it into the Alicorn Amulet then in Season 3 the episode “Magic Duel” Trixie then bought the Alicorn Amulet containing King Sombra’s corrupted magic but Trixie did not understand the corrupted it really contained and she used it to defeat Twilight in the Duel.
I think when he was pushed out instead of taking magic from the ponies of equestria and instead went looking for power. he found the crystal empire and queen chrysalis in it and they formed a bond but ideas of what happened to him in equestria corrupted him causing the equilibrium of love to turn into the oppisite and only thirt for magic, the queen ran away uncertain and heartbroken and went to gather her hive. Her anger from what love can do made her instead of getting love kindly or finding an alternative, to instead force it from others, and also, in a way save them from heart break.
Anybody remember Mistmane? Her appearance and Sombra’s looks similar and due to her high power level I think that’s why her mane flowed like Celestia’s and Luna’s and Sombra’s, and the curved horns- soooo... what if he’s a pony from there and he was just corrupted? And the wings weren’t real they were just a symbol of how strong he was and how he was able to defeat alicorns as a unicorn? Maybe he could’ve been a corrupted pupil of Celestia’s, I won’t go into full detail as I don’t have to time to but I just wanted to put this here as otherwise I’d forget.
That's weird I believe that the answer for how Sombra came to be was in his diary it said "somber... it was the only word I could remember when they found me. No matter what they asked, the only thing I would say to them was this one word. So they made it my name. And that is how I, the king of all monsters, named myself. Not having any family to return a lost colt to, the crystal guard brought me to chestnut falls orphanage. Where he meets chestnut falls." Sombra didn't even need wings to rule since he over thrown princess Cadence mother and for that Radiant Hope have to find Celestia and Luna for help and so for that the Crystal Empire and Sombra disappeared. To rule equestria isn't about ruling with kindness or compassion like the other Alicorn princesses. To somber he wasn't even born like the others he was made, created by a red Crystal look like the others to blending in disguise so he can get close to the crystal heart and hide it. He even went find a friend in his youth that he care for and she was he's best friend that he had a crush on her stated that she must join him we're the powerful ones. We can rule as king and queen.
Well, it does explain two other things that you didn't get around to covering: the fact that Flim & Flam refer to it as "The Kingdom of Canterlot", and the fact that Canterlot is central to Unicorn society in Equestria. How is there a Kingdom with no King? We know Hasbro didn't want to use "Queen" for anything but villains (since Disney kind of poisoned the apple on that one long ago), but it never made sense for a Princess to rule a land.
We know that there are Princes who also don't rule - Blueblood is one. But in absence of a King, the next Prince in line becomes King regardless of age or merit. So why wouldn't Blueblood (or a more senior Prince, if any) be King, if Kings still exist at all (as they do in other lands)? It makes sense IF the Kingship itself had been abolished. The ascension of the Two Sisters, taking over the previous Sun/Moon duties of the Unicorns as a tribe, meant executive power in Equestria became a meritocracy - only an Alicorn can rule, they must do so by ascension, their predecessor must take them under their literal wing, and they must be trained up for the job. The rest of the nobility still have their land and titles but none of them can contest for the Throne...
...that is, so long as a worthy Alicorn remains seated upon it. DUN DUN DAAAAAAAHHHHH...!
Nice theory but one teensy problem. The summer sun celebration was held to celebrate Celestia's defeat of Nightmare Moon and Sombra was banished before Nightmare moon. So maybe it happened at a royal speech or somethin
Princess Platinum's sire (father) is supposedly King Bullion. Sombra might have been a new name adopted by Bullion after his fall. Also the Royal sisters were Alicorns when they gained their CM's by moving the sun and moon. Yes, there has never been an alicorn born in Equestria prior to Flurry Heart, but the royal sisters weren't born in Equestria. Personally, I think the royal sisters, were born in the lost civilization of the Alicorns, and are displaced in space and time somehow. (Sort of "Last Son of Krypton" style).
Further proof that sombra was an alicorn in The Crystal Empire Part 1 when celestia show twilight the Crystal Empire she produces the same kind of magic as sombra just before the black crystals form in front of twilight.
Now my question is how did celestia produce the same kind of magic as celestia because sombras type of magic comes from his corruption right?
As much as I agree with this, the creator of my little pony said that she called princess Celestia “princess” because it didn’t sound as evil. It might be the same with princess Platinm
I totally agree with sawtooth theory about alicorns. But there is a flaw. If you need to have magic from all three tribes then starlight would be an alicorn. She can take cutie marks from all three tribes.
Okay so, there is one problem with your theory, you're basically saying that Sombra came back during the summer sun celebration even though the summer sun celebration was after Nightmare Moon (It was mentioned in S4 E1). Then you say that the royal sisters turned Sombra into a shadow. It doesn't make sense. For your theory to work, Sombra would have had to return for revenge before the Nightmare Moon (I think that would be too soon and the question is, when?) Correct me if I'm wrong
If the alicorn amulet absorbed sombra's wings the when trixie put it on it should have gave her wings but it didn't. So in my opinion the alicorn amulet is not connected to king sombra.
the theory is cool but you missed a lot of the story that came from the show, the parts you missed i can count are:
Sombra didn't die he came back when discord was pretending to be grogar
the sisters banished Sombra not Starswirl
the thing that drove sombra mad was the power given to him by the crystal ponies love thats all i found, also i have a mini theory that sombra always had a curved horn and canid teeth, there's other ponies in the show with curved horns and his teeth are different from Luna's, Luna's teeth are more like a 4 year old's drawing of a T-rex while sombra's look more like the predators we see today such as dogs, lions or wolves so im convinced he is part of a extinct race of carnivorous unicorn/alicorn, if he is a part of a Carnivorous unicorn race then there is also a race of Pegasus and land ponies with teeth like that, its rare to see ponies with curved horns that arent changelings or evil but they've appeared as back ground characters.(sorry it was long hope you liked mah mini theory :3 )
What i think happend was star swirl used the gem to get the magic from the tribes from king saubra and turned it into the alicorn amulet then his wings banished with him then when he was banished his wings grew back then he found the crystal empire and ruled over it but got destroyed but didn't die and still had his wings and when he tried to take the crystal heart he was destroyed again but came back and turned into a shadow then got destroyed again then came back for to banish the empire then the empire returned then he came back for victory and to destroy like he does!!! Thats what I think happend😊
thanks for the videos man, id love for you to reply to me, i really want to talk to you about this stuff, and if anything id like to start a youtube channel like his and do videos with him, sawtooth waves if your reading this i want you to know that your my idol and i look up to you. thank you for all the wonderful years
if i might ask sawtooth? if sombra wasn't born in the empire who once ruled the empire before he took over or was their never a queen to begin with and the throne was open to anyone who saught to steal the throne?
Wait wait argument theory here, what if he was the son of lost crystal princess, she would be ruling with her husband and one day somber a wanted the throne, over threw his mother and father and became king, years later when they first found the crystal empire they stole sombras magic and turned him into a unicorn and seeing his curropt nature banished him accidentally banishing the empire
Well I know why Sombra’s horn is curved . Look at Mistmain her horn is curved and every one in her town also have a curved horn I think Sombra is From that town
True but how would have king sombra gotten the magic looking at what you have said about him yes it's true but you should make an episode on how he got the magic
that speech was amazing and its all right I know because I peached it up on google and it said the same thing but with harder words and that whole speech was something
In the third season tricky used the alicorn magic but she didn't get wings. She got red eyes red magic and a thirst for greed and more power over twilight
Sombra a unicorn that put magical power into an amulet and make the amulet look like a alicorn then... he go to the crystal empire and started ruling. Done.
Just pointing out..... He doesn't have a cutie mark so that makes me think that he was never a normal unicorn or.... What if he never GOT his cutie mark? This would explain why he always where's a cape..
Well evryting is rong first he was a shadow pony and the Queen his mother took avay his magic so that the prison all of them where stuck in he can get out .The cristal gourds found him and took him to a ofenage were he wasnamed sombra because it was the only word he could say .He met a friend he loved .Hope she told him about the cristal faire and every year he got sick of the light and love . One year Hope got her mark by saving him with medical aid She got her he did not only becoming a beast . Sombra and hope took over the empire but Sombra ralised he must become good ore Hope will not like him so he became good . That's the real story
The alicorn amulet only increased the wearer's magic, though it could possibly only work for the physical traits of the pony. I think it more likely that Sombra made the amulet, planning to use it to become an alicorn, but failed, and the amulet was taken
This story is cool but I honestly think it's stretching.. Or maybe that's just me liking Magpiepony's Princess Trixie Sparkle and wanting to believe the amulet belongs to some pony we don't know..
Thars an important character missing from this but she's from the comics #35 https://youtu.be/emO-QnYS3yU Just a little backstory Not trying to judge Im just saying
Theres a rumor about the ponies and the humans, They all always think why that pink filly is Celestia to princess Celestia, That Celestia as filly, shes not full-alicorn, shes just a normal Unicorn, And an adult, She became Rainbow (I think its pink style not a regular rainbow) Even Luna, filly Luna has Almost-color-cyan hair even when she being defeated by a Mane Six, and Adult she has Dark Blue or whatever, her middle hair has something different color
OMG Two of him are really same what if sawtooth is right alicorn amulet and sombra original pest Old king👑 of unicorn get replaced from 2 young pony sister become new princess alicorn New look of old unicorn king👑 1;colars then (before)💙>❤now(after) 2;costume then (before)😇>😈now(after) 3;voice then (before)>now(after) (i gusse?) 4;powers then (before)💝👑👏🌟>💥💣🔥💢now(after) I well king👑 sombra he wants is become old unicorn king again but this time is not a same at all
An alternative speculation? Perhaps Sombra created the Alicorn Amulet, in a similar manner to Sauron creating the one ring? With it, his powers were amplified even further, but without it, he finds himself deminished. I don't think its a coincidence that Sombra is similar to Sauron in many respects. His iron crown even bears the same sigil - note how its curved red spikes and steel centre depicts the eye of Sauron atop Barad-Dur.
This is so dope! The backstory is very interesting, he was snuffed tbh. One of the best villains! As a side note, in the MLP comics they did give him a backstory, but I'm not sure how canon the comics are? Either way, King Sombra is one of the best characters!
Instead of star swirl I was thinking his own daughter princess platinum here is how I think it would go I call it
The 7 day betrayal
As Sombra ruled with an iron fist he asked his daughter to rule with him and of course she agreed but she seemed a bit off. She wanted everything but not like this.. She started to think.. She and the two princesses made a plan. She started gathering information from the King and learnt dark magic to rival her father. On the 7th day of her plan she struck! Using all of her might she stole her fathers magic but with no where to put it she consumed it!! The two princesses ran to her in horror! The Princess looking as tired as ever not trying to get corrupted said "finish me before it's to late." Both of the princesses faced each other and looked for some sort of crystal and stored princess platinum's magic but it was to late she passed away. King Sombra awoke and saw this act but could do nothing without his magic he couldn't save the dark magic or his daughter so he sprinted away never to be seen ever again
If you remember, three of the ponies had red eyes when they absorbed Starlight's anger...so I think this is how he get red eyes..By gathering his anger in the glass and then in an incident, the glass broke and he absorbed the anger.
Agreed but one question: If sombre was BANISHED from equestrian he was probably sent super duper far away like 1k km away or something. So how did he sense magic in the crystal empire? Also the empire is always cold around it so y was he in a desert?
I think it’s more likely that King Sombra was an Eastern unicorn, like Mistmane. Both of them have inward curving horns as a reference to the Kirin. If that’s the case it’s possible he’s the Emperor that Mistmane’s friend presumably deposed when she stole the throne. It’s even possible that the sisters found him because they were trying to tie up loose ends that the pillars left behind, were looking for the missing emperor and tracked him to the Crystal Empire. So what I think happened was after getting kicked out of his own kingdom he couldn’t just come back, he was outmatched, so he went searching for more power. During this time he encountered the Darkness and it taught him how to create the Alicorn Amulet, gaining a power great enough to defeat any unicorn, but at the same time it corrupted him. In the end instead of returning to his kingdom he decided to take over the Crystal Empire using his fear magic to subjugate the ponies there.
Excuse me, Your Majesty? There are 2 questions you left me with:
1: If "King Cobalt" has a daughter(Princess Platinum), who was his queen? and 2: What is Sombra's cutie mark(or is he a blank-flank instead)?
Please answer these in another video. I also have more questions:
Why are Crystal Ponies horn-and wing-less? How did Starswirl even EXIST back then? When did Sombra curse the Crystal Empire? Why is the Alicorn Amulet existing? According to this, wouldn't Starswirl have DESTROYED the gem instead of hiding it? Why is he evil in the first place? You reformed the OTHER villains that Dis-I mean, Grogar, brought back. Why not Sombra?
Well, the Journal of the Two Sisters seems to suggest that the sisters were already Alicorns, maybe even born that way, but so far back in time that Equestria didn't even exist yet, hence Celestia stating that Equestria had never seen the birth of an Alicorn when Flurry Heart was born. And, except for one animation error in Grannies Gone Wild we have never seen any evidence of a male Alicorn. They may indeed exist, but we have nothing that is canon that I am aware of to confirm, or deny, that they do.
King sombra and queen crystalist are combined by crystalist used to rule the crystal empire that’s why she looks like that and why she’s an alicorn but once king Sombra came he stole the thrown but crystalist and many of her crystal people escaped and turned into the love hungry creatures they are
Or he could have invented dark magic and became an alicorn that way, then had an accident that required both of his wings to be amputated, and he got angry and jealous once the Sisters earned their wings. No evidence, and it doesn't make much sense, but it would be a cool story.
I dont know about the replaced-by-celesta-and-luna part. The ponies of equestria arent cold hearted. They dont just re-place someone just because they found someone better. Maybe Sombra tried to steal there magic to get rid of them so no pony will stand in his way but ofcourse he was caught so they exiled him.
Okokok so- sombra definitely used to be an alicorn- I mean his castle in season 3 is chalk full of alicorn magic, something we’ve been led to believe is unique to alicorns (and apparently twilight but i think she was already a pseudo alicorn at the start of season 3) - so him having alicorn magic would suggest that he used to be an alicorn.
Can we get a theory about how starlight got her cutie mark and what it really means? I'm curious because it looks like her cutie mark is drawing magic, but she's reformed now, so it can't be that. Maybe her cutie mark has a double meaning like diamond tiara's?
I have a theory that probably explain why Sombra doesn t have a cuttie mark. When the princess give their magic to Twillight them cutie marks dessapear. Now i have 2 questions. Why Sombra's mane is still moving? And why Sombra lose his wings and the others alicorns no.
The only explanation i could find is that an alicorn can lose their wings depending in how it became an alicorn. If you earn the wings travel to the magic dimention then it will affect permantly the basic form. However if some pony ( like Clozy Glow and Sombra did) absorb magic it wont change the basic form. And the moving mane..........I am still searching an explanation....
Edit: About the moving mane i have 2 posibilities. The firts one is that the moving is a secundary effect of have unicorn magic. That would explain why Mistmane also have a Magic mane. The deal is explain why not all the unicorns have one or what are the requirements.
That is why i see the second one more likely. The moving hair is the result of having unicorn and earth pony magic. As we can see earth ponies have a facility to move theirs manes in very usefull ways. Like give a punch or carry somethings. And if you ad some unicorn magic wuala. Now you have a moving mane.
Maybe Sombra didnt use his earth pony magic because it was few or because he had slaves but Mistmane did. She can make grown flower and plants with the same facility of am earth pony so.....there.... thanks to read all
I think he NOT a alicorn and a very powerful unicorn. He studied magic for years finally got the hang of it as well, as he was practicing a spell that was unknown he went into the vein of darkness. The spell was unknown to be a dark spell to turn any creature that can do it..evil. He was from a place in Equestria, not sure where though and moved to the Crystal Empire to study magic there instead. He found out how much power he had after he was absorbed into darkness and took control of the Crystal Empire. His magic grows from every pony there. I will explain how: Crystal ponies have a special type of magic they look like regular earth ponies except you can tell them apart by the eyes. The magic they have is stronger than a regular pegasus or earth pony type, if you absorb their magic you will feel how powerful it is and he felt that. Sombra had drained the magic from those crystal ponies by slavery and he was strong. He had enough magic to be compared more powerful than the alicorn ambulate and once he was defeated all of his magic was put into the ambulate. When he came back in season nine.. he was searching for magic. But that is my theory!
Do you know the moment when you said "the gem of sombras image" well triksy may have took it and sombra was captured in it and she may have let king sombra free,but im not sure this is my opinion
I'm too invested in the subplots of your OC (and the OCs of all the other MLP content creators). Yeah King Cobalt is cool but BAT-ALICORN SAWTOOTH WAVES?!
I mostly agree but you got 1 detail wrong. Equestria wouldn't be celebrating the summer sun celebration. That holiday was created to celebrate the defeat of Nightmare Moon,then would later be held to celebrate the return of Luna. Nightmare Moon happend after King Sombra banished the Empire. So if Sombra really stole magic from all 3 tribes,it wouldn't of been at the summer sun celebration.
Hi Brony Notion! I used to be a BIG fan of yours and was there when you were called yourself Brony notion! I watched you when I was 6 years old and now I am 11! You honestly and your theories and in general watching my little pony were a big part of my childhood (well I still am in my childhood bc I'm only 11 lol) but I came back to your channel to see what you have done! I understand you haven't done many videos because lol it probably is hard to even think of a theory to make before even solving it xD . But I just wanted to say hi :D I have grown out of the fandom :c but doesn't mean I won't support you with a sub : ) And the last vids I watched were the harmony songs and yeah I was wondering why there weren't much vids but glad you're back! I have 1 suggestion: Well I have grown out of My little pony but I still sorta watch the Equestria Girls movies sometimes but the Dazzlings songs won't get out of my head they're amazing!-- My point is maybe make a theory from Equestria Girls! Thanks, (if you've read this comment :D) , for reading!
We all know that the real reason that Sombra turned bad was because of what happened to him when he proposed to the two sisters that they have a democracy rather than a monarchy
Great Emperor here, That's a sad tale for King cobalt and his right of Authority, I have a assumption on this and I for one, think this is how it came to be. It saddens me so, if I was forced out of my imperial throne by alicorns..... Heheheheee..... They first need to go through my loyal soldiers who fought bravely against all external threats beyond the borders of the Velhkaiddian Empire.
I don't know if he gained his powers by ripping the Magica from the other tribes his name is King Sombra that sounds more like a snake so maybe some kind of power or Magicka hungry snake bit him and then that's a Venom isn't filled with head over to blow in the magic and then he became a noun I don't know if he gained his powers by ripping the Magica from the other tribes his name is King Sombra that sounds more like a snake so maybe some kind of power or Magicka hungry snake bit him and then that's a Venom isn't filled with head over to blow in the magic and then he became a noun that's an entire crowd with CM also guards with no and then the rest of them
But... when twilight got her magic taken away by terik as an ALICORN, and she kept her wings and she was originally an UNICORN before she got her wings,so a flaw, AND ALL THE OTHER ALICORNS IN THE SAME SURCUMSTANCE, AND THEY WERE ALSO UNICORNS ORIGINALLY( exsepsen for cadence) so yea.
That sound like it could be real! And that could be a reason there isn't anymore male alicorns! I wish we could get the real deal about our big villains and about Luna and Celestia
Sorry to disprove this theory, but Princess Platinum's father is King Bullion. (According to the Royal Sister's diary) Also, Sombra's backstory is explained in the Comics "Friendship is Fiendship", "Reflections", and "Siege of the Crystal Empire". Really nice theory though!
Sombra has soaring hair, which means ге is powerful enough to be an alicirn who is even more polerfull than two alisorns.And he is the only mail pony with it. And one more thing.Do anynony thing its posible for luna and sombra to get along together?
Hm, i remember in one of silverquils videos (the one where he anylizes the episode threes a crowed) that we see a crystal pegasus among cadances royal escort when she’s greeting twilight at the train station
I think that king Sombra was actually born a À la corn but then when he got older he was the king. But then nightmare moon came took his power and now he’s just regular old unicorn looking for revenge
ummm REALLY great question but.. were Celestia and sombra dating!? ya-know before he turned evil? or at least had a thing for each other, like a tragic romance??
Ik I just made a theory but maybe Sonora was never an alicorn we saw Mist Manes story and maybe he was the over ruled empire, because mist manes friend wasn’t an alicorn
Wait- I got a theory So in the episode where starlight gets called by the map with the two sisters and she changes the cutie marks so celestia is in her dream and somehow Luna comes in her dream to so I’m thinking that Alicorns can come in dreams Hmmmmm keeps me thinking 🤔
Sawtooth wave can you theory tirek and chrysalis needs love and magic to live or else they will die because when twilight and others defeat cozy ,chrysalis ,and tirek. Tirek was cold like he was starving for magic and like chrysalis she needs love to live because thorax was starving the Crystal empire what was got him there but when he transformed into something he didn’t need love. So yeah that my theory for you sawtooth wave
Rumors? There is an entire comic about his UMBRUM HERITAGE ... There are 3 main Sombra arcs >Show >Comic alternative good version >Comic show related version (umbrum Only contradiction is when Sombra (in a later issue) goes to find the Splitters of Queen Amore. (Not cadi, but her mom/sister of Celi) ... we know Celi refers to Celestia as 'Aunt'.... Anyhow... he is no alicorn. He is an Umbrum in Ponyform. that's all. Which explains his negative/dark magic
since i saw the first eg movie i have had one thing spining around my head! Listen! When twilight tells fluttershy that she want to be against sunset fluttershy says its a bad idea! And says something about "another person" who was against sunset!! They never said who was that girl and what sunset did to her!!! Please see this....
No theres a story but fanfiction comic of him and hope Hope is a unicorn where him and hope became friends since nobody else really liked him cause he was different Slowly he was becoming more and more ill to the dark magic that was slowly killing him,he developed hidden feelings for hope They both then went to the crystal heart wich showed their future It showed sombra that his future was dark and he'd become corrupted while it showed hope becoming a princess In fear and anger sombra ended up giving in to the darkness and betrayed everyone while hope desperately tried to help him and convince him otherwise
That is not right about celestia and Luna absorbing that magic because in the stars wires secret video you said starswirl created alicorns and used the royal sisters as a test
9:17 think once was a normal pony. But the only true boy with wings. So everybody laugh at school at him. And the school wad magic school with the princess. One day he here his wings by falling. Then he became so anger. He turn to darkness like the guy in star of season 7. Might be same with changelink there were normal ponies who het the leading princess. And back to other guy the princess did nothing to help. So he final had a plan then after a fail. He join with the other bad guys but then to come with odd death.
sorry if this sounds a lil bit confusing, but the Cutie Mark Crusader's have been around each other constantly, and as we all know, Apple Bloom is an earth pony, Scootaloo is a pegasus, and Sweetie Belle is a unicorn, and (i think?) They've had at least 2 magical transformations together in some way, so why wouldnt they absorb each others magic/love/powers etc and all become alicorns? also, in the very last episode of the show, they show the CMC all grown up, but Scoot still has tiny wings. Is she stunted?
ah- also a slight correcting from what I know of about the Summer Sun Celebraion, feel free to correct me or ignore this if Im wrong, but (cant remember which episode, i think it mightve been one of the last three in the show) they explained that the SSC was a celebration for the banishment of Nightmare Moon, and in your video, Celestia and Luna are ruling together, and Nightmare Moon hasnt taken over Luna yet, so yeah um idk
Seriously? Sombra's already got a backstory, ya know! Ugh, DID YOU EVEN READ THE COMIC!!!???? I MEAN I LIKE MOST OF YOUR THEORIES, BUT YOU DEFINITELY, COMPLETELY IGNORED THE COMIC LICENSED BY HASBRO!!!!! THE "RUMOR" THAT SOMBRA IS AN UMBRUM, IS. A. FACT!!!!!!!!!!!
i wanna talk about one small side detail... remember Mistmane? unlike earth ponies and pegasi, unicorns have multiple different breeds, so what if he wasn't just a regular unicorn, but rather from some ancient land?
Mmm... well the summer summer sun celibration had made because of nightmare moon banased and it is summer sun celibration not winter moon celibration so what happened ves to luna about it
So that means that king Sombra what is rarities dadI haven’t really watch the whole my little pony show even though I’m a little girl or a hello so I’m literally nine and I still look like a teenager come on how am I looking like a teenager when I’m already nine food is that appropriate but is king Sombraand rarity are related
also u forgot that there celestia is monster look i forgot and Can u do a vid of all the villains or monster of My lil pony monster of a here powers or stuff idk
Ok so like one more thing. I’ve seen some of your older videos before Mr. Sawtooth and I have a few things that may help out with revising old theories or building new ones. When Twilight got the magic from the three princesses, and when she raised the sun, her hair was wavy. Since we know this is something that comes with age, Alicorns may become stronger over time. Also her form after unlocking the box I do believe also has wavy hair so it may be just high magic power that causes it. The second is a point that you originally described as not having enough evidence if I remember correctly. Do you remember the whole discord is a creation of grogar theory? In that episode you said Dr. Wolf had a theory that “given” magic is different from stolen magic. If you look at the Friendship games movie, you can see that when magic is given (in this case by human Pinkie Pie, Rainbow Dash, Rarity, Applejack, and Fluttershy) it seems to be on par or even more powerful than the stolen magic that Human Twilight used. But the more important point is that unlike when Twilight stole the magic, giving it didn’t seem to tire out the Mane 5? Unlike when Twilight stole the magic.
Hmm... Awesome theory, but how did the Crystal Ponies/Empire come to be? I get that they were in a completely separate civilization, but would it also maybe work if they were the ponies that Sombra stole the magic from? Just thinking... let me know if I have any point I honestly don't know!
Your theory is really interesting and I agree with the idea of the alicorn amulet's relevance to Sombra. Although, I have my own theory about his magic.
I personally see his dark magic and the corrupting powers of what caused Luna to turn into Nightmare Moon as very similar, perhaps even the same. However his desire for power and his hatred for being shunned and foiled permanently corrupted him and couldn't be removed with the elements, unlike with Nightmare Moon. Perhaps he can be reformed if he ever were to come back into existence (I'd like to think he can, because I like to personally hypothesize that even if you are stripped of Alicornhood, if you were corrupted by dark powers you might probably still be immortal or at least have an extremely long lifespan.) but it would be very dangerous and difficult.
I'd like to think even someone as awful as him has a chance, if you theorized The Evil Three do as well.
...Now I actually want to write a story about this.
Hey Sawtooth Waves, just wanna say what if we have this partly wrong? Although alicorn magic is meant to be a fusion of earth ponies, Pegasus, and unicorns, what if what they make is what they came from? An ancient magic that was the original harmony, that was lost when tensions with the tribes rose. After all, who is to say that there was never any connection between the tribes? Could it be that there are many ancient spells long lost that have the power of three into one... a harmony or a discord
A comic came out call the magic of fiendship that explains the backstories for sombra, trek, crysilis and a bit of story on something nightmare moon In the comic it states that he was found outside the crystal empire as a filly. He stood out and literally had one friend whom he grew up with. A festival for The crystal heart would happen each year and on that day he would fall ill, it getting worse with each year.his friend became queen out of grief and anger from a lack of a cutie mark and from being basically pushed away from his one friend since he wasn’t a crystal pony, he runs away and finds a crystal in a snow storm and that crystal ends up being his mom (I know it’s weird but it’s apparently canon) and she’s like “you have power but you have to get rid of the crystal heart” and ends up in unlocking sombra’s true potential to which he goes to steal the heart and gets confronted ending up in him turning his friend (who became the princess of the crystal empire) into a stone/crystal to which the next bit is fuzzy but after that he goes into the sombra we know from the show and ya know, enslaves the crystal empire in his iron hoofed rule.
Hmm so I was thinking maybe all the alicorns have something in common. It seams that all the ponies that became alicorns had a very strong goal maybe you have to have magic from all 3 tribes but you also might need something else too, a goal. King samba wanted power, Celestia and Luna wanted to help all the ponies by raising the sun and moon, Cadence wanted to spread love and loved doing it, Twilight wanted to learn more about friendship and help others with their friend ship problems, Fluryheart was born that why but she always knew her goal. And Cozy Glow wanted power just like Sumbra. But thats just my theory.
When you've read the comics and know that Sombra never had wings and wasn't killed by the elements just banished back into the place where his species are trapped from taking over Equestria. Also there is a good king Sombra in an alternate world where Daybreaker is pretty much the main evil, and there is a comic where unicorns steal Rd wings except they just get stopped before they can put them onto their bodies and turn into alicorns.
AAANNNDD, I have some information on the student 6’s elements.
In the episode ‘uprooted’ the tree of harmony created a shared dream that the student six were in. At the end of it, the messenger for the tree of harmony put down their hoof and created 6 lines, all connecting to each of the six!! THE COLOURS WERE THE ELEMENTS THE EACH OF THEM HAD!!
Yona had honesty
Smoulder had a white element (probably loyalty)
Gallus had laughter
Sandbar had generosity
Silver stream had kindness
And Ocellis had a yellow element (probably magic)
I could be wrong with this, like they could have made entirely new elements of harmony but I am sure I’m into something here. I’m not skilled enough to look into any of this further, but that’s the most info I have.
Hi I love how you vids always makes sense and I absolutely adore them but I got something that I keep thinking about and that is flowing manes. Celestia and Luna one of the pillars(forgot her name) and also sombra has flowing manes before twilight but I want to know how does that happen? I originally thought maybe because of strong magical power that made them all have flowing manes but starswirl and starlight had magical powers but they don’t have flowing manes so I then thought what if it only works on alicorns but then I remembered one of the pillar isn’t an alicorn but a strong unicorn and also sambra probably got his mane flowing from that ancient magic you talked about in this vid. Also my brother said that celesta and Luna just casted a spell just to make their mane flowing which I don’t think they did tbh as I think it all had to do with magical power. Now I have evidence (that may not be that strong tbh) and that evidence is that when cadence luna and celestia had to give all their magic to twilight in season 4 twilight mane started to flow for a like a couple of seconds and I think the reason why it didn’t stay like that when the princesses gave their magic is because twilight couldn’t handle that much magical power as she couldn’t even control the sun and moon properly as she was new to it. Now that twilight is much stronger in magical power I think she can now handle celestia’s and luna’s strong magical power as I think celestia and Luna gave their magical ability to twilight to raise the sun and the moon right? Or was it that little device that celestia and Luna put magic in well I ain’t sure so I think they did give magic to twilight. So basically in conclusion I think it’s got to do with strong magical power but like starswirl and starlight have strong magical power but i dunno so like could you do a video on this it would be great if you did because I ain’t that intelligent to really think this out
I even think Sombra wasnt real in last season, as Discord prooved to be able be multiple entities at once, why would be so hard to disguise one of self as Sombra to bound rest villans together and proove them they cant do it on their own
So far I like your theory but it does bring up a question I have and that is why did King Sambra loss his cutie mark? We saw how when Cozy Glow lost her Alicorn magic she still had her’s so that will still need some explanation. Honestly I still don’t get why he never had a cutie mark in the first place. I remember being really disappointed when we saw his cape blowing in the wind and their wasn’t one. Off topic your video had me wondering where did the six artifacts used as plot devices in season 8 even come from? I mean aside from ponies, hippogriffs, changlings, and dragons griffons and yaks don’t seem very magically.
I think that the amulet Trixie wore in the begging of the show where she and twilight had a face off may have been made by him considering the red and that red magic went around her eyes in the shape of so bras dark magic
I think we can narrow down Sombra's origins to the same group of Unicorns Mistmane came from. The home Village Mistmane came from the Unicorns have curved horns, Sombra has a curved horn.
Sawtooth, let me ask you this: Is Star Swirl meant to be a villain?
I mean, Star Swirl made Discord appear. Star Swirl made Tirek into tyranny. Star Swirl made Stygian into the pony of shadows. Star Swirl terrorised Equestria Girls by teleporting artefacts from Equestria.
My theory is that ponies turn into alicorns when they create a type of magic that affects or affects all types of ponies (celestia and moon with the sun and the moon, cadence with love, twilight with friendship). By creating this type of magic qualities are absorbed from all types of ponies. This would apply to king sombra, with his mind control spell and to Twilight repairing the star shirld spell because that spell would change cutie marcks without seeing what kind of pony they were.
I have a question...After Luna was banished to the moon.. Celestia took Luna's responsibility too So does that mean that Celestia knows to raise the moon too?
before he got all dark he still had like goodness untill when he was walking he saw dark something which did the same for luna and made him made a transformed then went for the princesses
Still think the Two Celestial Sisters are naturally born alicorns. Nice theory thou. I don't t really care what Celestia said in the context over Flurry Hearths birth/existence. The writers treatment of the use of the sisters was piss poor and most of us know this, and that there is more to Celestia and Luna's character and the time of Discord's rule could have distorted time as well history was lost there before the sisters saved the land.
Your video is so inspiring and I see how you put the pieces together to fill up the empty gaps of the puzzle. You are right about King Sombra. I agree with you 100% I think he was good at some point to.
See- I agree with what you say here. But there *is* a species of nightmare animals. According to the Nightmare Rarity comic, these nightmare creatures were banished to live on the moon by ... somebody. Using that as proof, that means King Sombra- exactly like Luna- could have been taken over- overpowered by one of the nightmare creatures. I haven’t done a ton of research on this topic at all, this is just a suggestion and a correction. If you read the comic itself, you’ll understand. And yes, Rarity was consumed by the same nightmare stuff that Luna was. It was just never made into a movie.
ALSO! The fact that male ponies don’t seem to get ‘alicorn’ features, like Shining Armour. He’s a King, why wouldn’t he get wings, too?
Or was it the end because when he tried to go back in the crystal empire his horn was cut off his horn was inside the protection blob and the horn kinda teleport him inside so at the end if the story his horn was cut iff witch means he could still live waiting or making himself stronger jolo
Have you seen the video A Tale Of One Shadow ? Try adding that story of him to add with your theories, and get back to me on what actually happened to him. I want to know if this will help.
that does sound right but there is one question that i have but doubt it will get solved. what ever happened to his own daughter? did she go crazy or something....or is she somepony we already know?
Hi Sawtooth, Sorry, but I believe in the journal of the two sisters it says that Princess Platinum's Father is named King Billion, not King Cobalt, perhaps her mother is named Queen Cobalt, I didn't read that part. It's a good book so far, you should read it. PS, Thank you for using footage relating to my theory that I commented about in you video, "solving the Allicorn amulet"! Thank you, Foxplay.
I was looking back on the mlp equestria girls and noticed that when they transform twilight gets wings but when she goes through the portal in spring breakdown she's just a unicorn 🤔 I wonder why that is ?
I have a small theory it’s not very good and doesn’t have much thought put into it but.. What if Trixie is an ancestor of King Sombra that’s why she took the amulet, for revenge. That’s why she wanted to take down Twilight because she was close to Princess Celestia And ya know Princess Celestia and Luna took him down along with Starswirl like sawtooth said.
Again it’s not very good 😅 It was just a quick thought Even if it doesn’t match up with stuff in the show it can still be a story on its own.
Well shadow ponies can exist but if so they would problably stay in the shadow’s unless something happened but I also think that if they existed then they wouldn’t have to be evil if they had been in the shadow’s for all that time mabye their magic even got out and uncontrolled it caused the transformation for Luna to nightmare moon Love the vids
Any theroies on the Well of Shade from season 7? My theory is. It the place where unicorns and other magical creatures practice Dark and forbidden magic in secret.
What about the origin about the crystal empire? Is there a ruler in the crystal empire before sombra came? Crystal ponies need a ruler right? What's up with the castle without a ruler?Before sombra came
Actually the answers are in a manga he was never an Alicorn but he is a completely different species of pony he's not even really a pony he is some sort of dark fairy that they put into a ponies form so he could dominate their world he was never a pony and never will be that's why he looks so different and is so different he is a shadow creature and is not to be confused with a unicorn his species is called an Umbrum if you need more information read the third manga of My Little Pony friendship is Magic
I got a theory if u read this then my theory is that if you go back when all the people separated (season 8 I forget the name and episode) when she tears the papers off their all connected to discord
Super! That's a great solver.......everyone cannot tell like that......that's not a real pony......it human.....That guy is brilliant......I must say.......🧠🧠🧠good brain he had.........😘😘😘
Random mlp question:Why do certain Pegasi have trails and some don’t I get it has to do with speed but pony’s like the wonderbolts have them? (except dash
"Rumors from questionable sources" um the comics are considered canon UNLESS something in the show directly contradicts them. They're not 'questionable'. Sorry but it's really kind of annoying to constantly have the comic writers contributions to MLP:FIM lore tossed aside like it's meaningless.
Really great story but I have to crush your dreams, There is a official diary from the sisters and there the king is not called kobolt and is neighter Sombra
wasn’t the journal of the two sisters confirmed canon? i believe they said the unicorn king’s name in it when he came to visit celestia and luna, princess platinum was with him
i remember this cause i’ve read it an unhealthy amount of times, but if they didn’t say his name, it could very well be sombra
the book is the show, but an extended siris-of books!(how in the world do I spell siris? its like spelling style)The books are things that we do not REALLY need to know to watch the show.
Sawtooth! It’s KING Sawtooth. You’re done eatin’ all our apples! I’ll give it to ya if ya take off that amulet! 🧿 Ok just GIVE ME THE APPLE 🍎 Me: LOL 😂 LOL 😂 LOL 😂
But what about that fact that Celestia,Luna,Cedence,Twilight,flurry,cozy(if you wanna add her)are all FEMALES you telling me Males can be alicorns too (that big mac can for a fact atchive his dream of becoming one XD you know witch ep I'm talking about)
Does celestia and Luna have a third sister, because in mlp season 1 episode 3, Rarty is talking about how blue blood is Lunas And celestia nefue, and they dont have children soooo
Wait.. SOMBRA WAS LUNAS OLD FRIEND AND THEN JEWEL JOY AND DROWNED AND HE DROWNED FROM HIS SHADOW FORM!!!! Thats the answer.. (btw i found out because of he song my dear luna and i think that is the real backstory about Sombra)
He first found Luna when he was very young, then found Jewel in a cold, snowy place, and then he found the shadow form.. While he fought the ice cracked and he drowned.. the evil took control and bought him to the surface.. (there is a part two)
Why king Cobalt sent his daughter instead of himself, to test her ability? When all pony tribs are from hunger and cold , he want to test his daughter!! Worst king ever!! BOOOO!!!!!!
I have ideas for ur next video...if u need some... About rarity About apple jack's parents About how changelings look in the human world...???(my biggest doubt) About why starlight and Aria blaze look the same AND I think Octavia Melody and DJ Pon 3 are SISTERS🤔 AND I saw that Lyra and bon bon, AKA "agent" sweetie drops are... MARRIED (I saw it when I looked closer at the newspaper that twilight was looking at in 'the last problem ' ) !!! Can u call my name in ur video? Or at least show my comment?
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Personally, Sawtooth theory make much more sense. I prefer his theories than even the comic book cause i feel it was weird that he easily embrace the Umbrum's fate just by meeting his so-called Umbrum mother and leave Radiant Hope without even a second thought. The comic mentioned he came from an Umbrum's mother and a Earth Pony's Father, than what about his father heritage ? It also leave a room about who is his father and how on earth he have a sex a with the Umbrum which supposedly sealed under the Crystal Empire and why it was sealed under the Crystal Empire ? Shouldn't they move or sealed it on a different place cause it was to dangerous ? It also created a whole different question who is the Umbrum and where did they came from. Beside, the Umbrum theories relies heavily on the Stygian and Pony of Shadow and King Sombra could turn to shadow. There were no evidence of it's existence throughout the cannon material. Even the comic that produced the comic book was indenpendence from Hasbro and the comic was created as Hasbro decided to keep his origin a mysterious. They only got licenced from Hasbro to produced MLP material however they like and was not connected at all. There also leave a question on how King Sombra turn Princess Amore to Black Crystal Statue and break him and if that was Umbrum magic, then why he didn't use it against Spike. There also this " the umbrum army underground and scatters the fragments of Amore's statue across the world so she cannot be restored in time to stop him" which the comic didn't deal. Finaly, in the FIENDship is Magic Issue 1, it was very clear that Twillight and Cadance read King Sombra's diary but it was started with how he was found and named Sombra cause that was the first word he spoke like didn't that mean shadow and ended with Sombra knowing his defeat by Celestia and Luna is imminent, he enacts a terrible curse, and how Radiant Hope is forced to watch as her home vanishes. It was based on a book they found underneath of the Crystal Palace. So, who write the diary and what is the fate of Radiant Hope ? What does that Red Crystal have to do with the Umbrum? What really happened between the Crystal Ponies and the Shadow Ponies? In fact in the continuation of the comic Friendship is Magic Issue 37# Radiant Hope leave Equestria and go into the world of Umbrum and learn everything about them and return to invade Equestria and Crystal Empire, she also revived back and heal Sombra and it end with how Twillight defeat her and she and Sombra became a good ponies and they redemed themselve by traveling the world to find the fragment of Princess Amore that scattered across the world to revived her back and this clearly doesn't work with the final season. Hasbro clearly ignored the comic story line. Of course there are those who proposed a theories to reconciled the cannon storyline with the comic. Beside. all of Unicorn history that were written during the unification of Equestria by the three tribe, the Unicorn attribute it to the what they called representative of Unicorn King, Princess Platinum. The Unicorn King was barely mentioned. If Sawtooth theories was correct than that mean the Unicorn erased the connection between Sombra and the last Unicorn King as the leader of the three tribe surrender their power to the sister Alicorn to became the Princess and ruler of the newly-established Equestria with their advisor conviced them. The reason was more likely the still a bit of tension between the three tribe eventhough the leader have make up and reconciled when they try to explored a new land. Having the Unicorn King became a tyranny ruler would make the Unicorn betrayed the two tribe and brought back the old tension that just about to dissappeared that the Unicorn betrayed the two tribe like before. Starswirl the Bearded could not risk another tension or even starting a war with the two ponies tribe especially since this time if the Unicorn were to be blamed, it would be two against one with the Earth Ponies and Pegasi together against the Unicorn. He wouldn't let all the hard work he put to conviced Unicorn King to send Princess Platinum to meet and negotiated with Chancellor Puddinghead and Commander Hurricane and finaly unify the three tribe and formed a single nation just to be destroyed like that. So he twisted the history to built a good foundation since at that time what the Unicorn King said will represent the Unicorn decision in the history book.
Omg u are the best at theories like DUDE HOW HOW how do u untangle these things and i lived when u finished ur theory and said ‘until discord being a goat 🐐 (grogar) brought him back in failure again ‘ hehe llol
i remebr you making a joke quite aalongtime ago saying "id better stop before I litterally turn back into mat pat" or something similar and it took me way to long to realize that you whernt acually mat pat
Hi im jade when i was a child i hated villians or the bad people in movie but now that im nearly 10 all the people i hated in movies i now simp for 😀😄😀
What’s move the road and go numb when you can’t read 609 ram hundred and something written on something then just ran red well how do you want to run a ride and you ruined so. song
I don’t fully agree with the part where he took magic from all three tribes and became an alicorn, because the two sisters once said in the episode flurryheart was born that they have only seen someone turn into an alicorn by doing a special task
You forgot about the rich history of the crystal heart. It was heavily alluded to in the episode introducing the crystal ponies. There's also the fact that the crystal ponies identified Cadence as the Crystal Princess. A pony leader that can direct the energy of the Crystal Heart. How was he able to overthrow such a pony? There's also the problem that Sombra has a substantial back story in the comics, however if you ignore that you still have to account for the lineage of the Crystal Princesses. Not to mention the other 5 heroes of Equestria that existed along with Starswirl.
Here me out.. I think Sombra was thought by Starswirl before Starswirl thought the Alicorns. They are both intelligent and powerful unicorns well versed in magic. Sombra tried to help find a more efficient way to rise and lower the sun and yet he failed, being forced to watch the Alicorns do it with ease and for everything to be handed over to them. Though I do like the idea of Sombra being the unicorn king, it would be interesting if his lust for power had something to do with Grogar, or perhaps he deemed Celestia and Luna as an equally dangerous threat.
Maybe you could explain on where Grogar's magic after the bell was blasted along with the evil trio. Reason why is because magic appears to follow the same laws as energy and that it can niether be destroyed nor created but given a new form or I guess in magics case return to its original host.
I like to think that even though comics aren't canon, they contain a lot of off-screen canon lore. As such, I place Sombra as the rightful king of the Crystal Empire, he was indeed an Umbri, but his thirst for power made him crazy. I also make Cadence's mother a younger sister of Celestia and Luna, hence she's their actual niece, and somehow related to the Crystal Empire's royal family so the Crystal Heart recognized her as the rightful leader when Sombra lost his status. I haven't read the Diary of the Two Sisters, and I want to know how canon it is. I also have no idea where the Alicorn Amulet would come from, because I don't think it's related to Sombra himself, but to the Umbra in general, like Luna's and Stygian's corruption.
Sombra has a horn similar to the Neighponese. I'm wondering if he got exiled from Neighpon and in his desire for power, he intimated himself in with the royal family of the Crystal Empire for a bid to gain power, but because Mist Mane was Neighponese, she may have known of Sombra's(he may have been known as a different name in Neighpon) actions that got him banished. The Alicorn Amulet may have been created by Sombra to wield power similar to an alicorn, or maybe it was created by Grogar or a as yet unnamed alicorn who was either evil or corrupted(maybe that's what brought down their civilization as implied in the book The Journal of the Two Sisters, there used to be an alicorn civilization) or even another master of dark magic.
I believe that, instead of being jealous of the sisters, Cobalt succumbed to fear. Fear that his people whom he loved so dearly would turn his back on him. Fear of being forgotten. Fear of being no longer needed.
I think that makes more sense, seeing how he primarily uses fear to control others. In the S3 premiere, the crystal ponies are terrified of him, and even the Mane 6 get anxious, just because of his mere presence. After the sisters were crowned, he feared he was no longer needed, like he couldn't do anything to help his people any longer. And so, as the ultimate act of revenge, he dedicated his entire life to instill that same fear in others. When he came back thanks to Discord, he uses fear to brainwash other ponies. The only characters I know who chose to use fear as a weapon are those who have first-hand experience with of powerful it can be.
I- as much as I wanna believe this..his entire backstory is explained in the comics. He is in fact an umbrum..but given a unicorn form. He lived in the crystal empire, in an orphanage..the "mirrored" sombra we see art of is from the comics as well. He is from an alternate universe, and Tia falls in love with him-
I have an idea for future video. I don’t know if it’s already been done, but I would love for someone to make an mlp timeline. That is, from the first episode up to the final battle, how much time has passed in the mlp world. I think it would be interesting to know!
i don’t think the princesses had any interaction with king sombra besides the banishing him, because celesita said that her knowledge to the empire is limited. and i don’t think that’s how he found the crystal empire since it’s part of equestria.
Nice theory, but there is one small detail, that renders Sombras origin, as a regular unicorn, questionable. The elements of harmony, as well as the crystal heart, are meant to vanquish darkness and cleanse corruption, right? And both of these artifacts pretty much killed Sombra, as if there was no normal pony beneath the dark magic to heal. Personally, I feel like this implies that Sombra was born from the very darkness, that the elements and the crystal heart are designed to combat. Meaning, he's not a real pony and never has been. He may be a sort of demon, or a 'shadow pony' like in the comics.
When you can tell Sawtooth didn't read the comics that had Kings Sombra in them.
One of them Sombra got redeemed yes Sombra got redeemed, My Little Pony got you there before you ever did
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He was born in the Crystal Empire, his eyes was green when he was young but when the Crystal Heart show him his future and he thought he could Escape it so he just followed it and one of his friends his old friend tried to stop it and small ways but it didn't work
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Sombra was an Umbrum filly, then the other Umbrum used their power to cast spell on Sombra to look like a regular pony. Tho he was different from the others... He was grey/black and had no cutie mark, he had no friends... he found a friend named Radiant Hope. They were both different in their own way. But always due the crystalling (or how was it called i dont remember) Sombra felt sick and couldnt see it... it was because he wasnt a regular pony but still an Umbrum, and the crystal heart was hurting him. When he grew up, he ran up to the northern nature, finding a crystal, which was his mother telling him what he should do. He stole the crystal heart, turning Princess Amore into statue and shattering her, becoming a ruler... He though this was his destiny, but didnt know he was able to change it.
So yeah, Sombra is an Umbrum.
Also i got this from the Siege of Crystal Empire comic... I really liked it, it was darker than the show so its really good for me as an adult. I also liked the ending of reforming Sombra more, and he was more sympatic to me in the comics than in the show where he was stubborn like a goat
I think that sombra was corrupted by dark magic also I saw the video he tried to save his daughter but then got corrupted so that's how he's evil that's my theory also I think the thing on his neck is the source of dark magic
Only one problem with your theory. The first summer sun celebration happened after the loss of the crystal empire and the banishment of princess luna. Literally the day she banishes her and reraises the sun and makes that day the longest day of the year. She says so after Twilight becomes a princess 😊
There are official comics where Celesita used to use the mirror that is featured in Equesteria girls, and goes to an alternate pony world where Sombra is still good and never became evil. He was called Sombra and was just a unicorn... The two of them fell in love but Celestia always had to return to her own world, this alternate world has an evil Candance and a good chrysalis. I will say your theory for how Sombra became evil is somewhat sound.
this Is a great theory sawtooth waves, I just have one thing to note, It's that the summer sun celebration couldn't have happened when you're suggesting because the summer sun celebration was made in celebration of nightmare moon's defeat, this is still a great theory though :D :D :D edit: Sombra would've had to have lived a really long life because in the banishment scene the princesses had already gone through that head shape transformation thing signifying they'd been alicorns for about I,OOO years. (still a good theory tho :D)
It was also mentioned that the sisters were born as alicorns due to them not having their cutie marks because alicorns age differently, and there was a whole race of them at one point. It was in one of the official books. Sorry I sound rude now.
Only problem I have is why a source of love, and the elements of harmony KILL him, it doesn't make sense, the crystal heart wouldn't kill him unless there was something making him extremely weak to love... Then there is the elements of harmony, which REFUSED to kill in any situation, so why was sombra different
I like your investigation buddy,but I don't think that Starswirl is the one who took away the alicorn amulet from Sombra because if he did then he wouldn't have left the alicorn amulet in a shop where Trixy would find it to defeat Twilight.
I have questions you could make videos about : 1.Where is human Sunset ? 2. In "Rainbow Rocks", Twilight and her friends had to destroy the Equestrian part of the Sirens to turn everybody to normal. But if the Sirens pass the portal, what would happen to them ? 3. Is human Twilight an element of Harmony ? 4. In "Legend of Everfree", when Sci-Twi uses her magic, she gets wings but when she goes to Equestria, she is just a unicorn. Why ? 5. What are the magical geodes ?
When sombra took over the crystal empire he took crystals down she wasn't strong enough to battle king somba and she stepped down her thrown and ran into the blue goat and the blue goat turn her evil maybe that explains why crystalist is hungry for love
You don't become an alicorn by absorbing magic from all different tribes that's just dumb you become an alicorn if your born from either being a decendant of a alicorn or just completing a mighty task from a queen of equestria cozy never was an alicorn just because she had a horn and wing didn't mean she was an alicorn so this theory is incorrect on so many levels
If the Alicorn amulet has Alicorn magic, why didn't Trixie become an alicorn when she put on the amulet. You can't say that's because the magic is INSIDE the amulet because Trixie was still blessed with the magic of an alicorn. Also, if Sombra is a pony, why doesn't he have a cutie mark?
well perhaps there must be a bit of episode they didnt show. what if star swirl trapped sombra in the amulet and some how sombra escaped and found the crystal empire 🤔
Well, we have Princess Celestial and Princess Luna, and they don’t have a King/Queen above them. So why should we assume that Princess Platinum also had a King above her? 🤔🤔
I think that sombra was corrupted by dark magic also I saw the video he tried to save his daughter but then got corrupted so that's how he's evil that's my theory also I think the thing on his neck is the source of dark magic
Wrong sombra is an umbrage read friendship is magic with so bra on it! It explains that he wasmade into pony form by hos fellow kind and saw what he would become in the crystal heart. He then gets reformed by hope I think that's her name
Hey idk if I’m being stupid but if he was banished for 1000 years and he came after Luna then when they defeated Sombra, how could Lune have been there?
You have it wrong he didn’t find the Crystal ponies someone said there were unicorn leaders for the Crystal ponies until Sombra and he wen evil I can’t remember who said this but it’s in there please rewatch the episode
Ok crazy idea but what if queen crystalis was princess platnums mom and they were the first to rule the crystal empire but then something happened to queen crysalis like the king didnt want to be with her anymore and her and a couple of crystal ponies went out to start a new kingdom and when they found a new kingdom, queen crysalis wanted more power so she cast a spell hoping to make herself and her subjects more powerful but it backfired. (Like mistmanes bff) and her and her entire kingdom turned into disgusting creatures (aka rotten cheese) and the love they once had drained away from them and since they were crystal ponies, they had to go search for more love to feed on. (The spell wiped out their memory of their past) like wouldnt that be so crazy??!!?!?!?!
If there were no unicorns in the crystal empire, then what about sunburst and starlight, weren’t they both from the crystal empire, and they’re unicorns
that doesnt work. sombra- i mean cobalt, would have been mentioned in the journal of the two sisters. also the ponies didnt give all their love and light then either
Did you know that there are comics from the my little pony series is and in a two to three comics about Sombras backstory and what he is really. Should check them. But your theories about Sombra are not the one in the comics and I heard the comics are cannon.
OK is NO ONE going to mention that Sombra means Shadow? That's his name now! Also, the way he can be in a shadow form might be something. Idk what it has to do with anything but thought its worth mentiong.
S. 10. Episode 1. How he lost his wings Along time ago a. Somber. Was born in the. Crystal empire but. When. He saw the queen he was angry and set a. War
I have a theory kind of idea, if you call it a theory. Twilight Sparkle in Equestria, likes flash sentry, and if we see into the future of her life, maybe she would have filly’s with him, but Twilight in the EG dimension, whatever you would call it. Likes Timber, and if she has kids with him how would that work, ponies that don’t exist in the EG world, and Equestrian girls that don’t exist in Equestria, how would that work?
Sorry to interrupt but princess platinum’s dad is king bullion have you read the journal of the 2 sisters you will get every single Iformation I read it twice
CELIE AND LUNA WHERE BORN ALLICORNS WHEN THEY SAID WE NEVER SAW ALLICORN BORN I EQUOTRIA I WAS THINKING HEY THEY ARE NOT FROM THIS PLACE NOT OMG THEY WHERE NOT ALWAYS ALLIOCNRS DUDE JUST THINK. YOU NEED TO LET GO OF THAT THING THAT YOU KEEP HANGING ONTO ITS JUST NOT TRUE. OR AT LEAST THINK ABOUT A WAY WHERE THEY WHERE ALWAYS ALLIOCRNS, PLS JUST TRY. P.S: SOMBRA WAS NEVER WILL NEVER AND IS NOT AN ALLIOCRN.
I feel like they should make an episode or like a movie or something about all of the villains' origins that would be interesting lol
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but this was a good theory i liked it
131 likesThey have a comic series on the origins of some villains called frenemies or something
191 likesThey’re not completely canon but they’re a start
YES! That would be the greatest episode/ episodes of all time! I want to know what happened to Crystals too.
75 likesThey kinda did idw comics made a 5 issues. Fiendship is magic each issue told the origins of chrysalis, tirek, nightmare moon, the dazzlings (though in season 7 and in the legends of magic idw comics changed the sirens origins) and king sombra
62 likesBest idea of 2020 right here😀👍
12 likesThat would be great, but the writers couldn’t pull it off. 😅
13 likesI would enjoy actual backstories on them
15 likesNice idea
8 likesYeah something kinda similar to six but ponies
6 likesDescendants maybe? But mop version
5 likesOmg yasssss
5 likesI would like that idea
4 likesI agree 100℅ they should make a movie
3 likesIdk the story was originally supposed to be more slice of life with the villians as performance pieces for the start and end of the season respectively. Episodes hyper focused on specific character lore especially performance characters like villians really don't fit the shows intended themes.
10 likesIndeed it would
4 likesThat sounds so awesome id love to see that
4 likesI know right that would be amazing
4 likes@Penguinpoodle ooooh i didn't know that im gonna try look for it then and holy hecc that's a lot of likes
2 likes@Penguinpoodle those are called fiendship is magic but yeah i think his idea works better
2 likesI like my little ponies
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1 likeThey should
1 likeYeah! That would be so cool! Please make one Sawtooth!
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0 likesThere should. I really really really think they should
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0 likesits probably too dark for the kiddie tho idk lol😂
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0 likesI just wanna cannon discord origin
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0 likesI so agree if the my little pony franchise wants more money they should totally do this
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0 likesthey have comics :)
0 likesThat’s a good idea!
0 likesI love this but wasn't there a theory about a book he was reading and he turned evil? And wasn't Sombra born in the crystal empire?
0 likes@Cinnamon Drops i haven't seen that one yet or even heard about it until now but the comic is a good start . A whole special episode or movie would be much more epic though lol
0 likesyea they chould
0 likes@Kazuya Kami There was that fan animation about the idea the Sombra we know killed the good Sombra and stole his body. Evil being in a book that Sombra was looking up to bring his parents back I think. The actual origins for Sombra from the comics though have him at some point born outside the Empire. He was a Shadow Pony called an Umbrum and his mother, from a red crystal had him changed into a pony and left to be found so he would eventually be manipulated by her to destroy the Empire and free his kind so they could take over. He eventually succeeds 1000 years later after round 2 but realizes he was used after his marefriend revealed everything and he pretty much sacrificed himself to undo everything he did only to be saved and pardon by all 4 princesses at the time,(Flurry wasn't even born yet or an idea as far as we know. Heck Starlight hadn't even appeared yet.)
0 likesThere’s actually a comic that tells each villain’s origin
0 likesYes big movie on the topic of equestrian history
0 likes@Penguinpoodle It's called my litte pony fiendship is magic. It covers back stories for the sirens, sombra, tirek, nightmare moon and more
0 likesDo you want a Theia.?
0 likesYeah make a movie or comic
1 likeI feel like Going to seed and Trivia Pursuit should have been scrapped. An Hasbro should have made a 2 parter episode explaining each villian back story.
0 likesThere are some comics called Fiendship is Magic where thats explained. Im not sure if theyre completely canon, but they sure are interesting; the one Ive read is Chrysalis', but not the others.
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0 likesThen what is Luna and Celestia‘s mom and dad?
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0 likesYeah a special.
0 likesThey did it in the comics... but that's one of those things that like with all good faery tales, be careful what you wish for.
1 likeI was sorely disappointed with the queen of the changelings', fet the whole changeling race's origins...
Comics seem to take the "Stuff in a magic bucket with magical properties makes magical things accidently magical magic into existence." Approach...
I like it
0 likesSame - w -
0 likesYess maybe in gen 5
1 likeYes just yes
0 likesThere is already a book about the villains 🦹♀️ origins sombra, chrisalas, nightmare moon 🌙
1 likeI want that.
0 likes@Princess Starlaixy Arixes I have read it and it says that a magical red stone took over him and that’s how he got his powers and he destroyed princess 👸 amora
0 likes@Prodigy Person Ok you make me dislike him right now.
0 likes@Princess Starlaixy Arixes I know I dislike him to
0 likesBut mlp already ended
0 likesThey have a comic series
0 likesa lot of ppl keep saying theres a comic series can someone find a link for it or something? i cant seem to find it
0 likesThere is a book 📖
0 likes@oOf yes
0 likesIt would be epic
0 likesWe did get starlight glimmer, the pony of shadows and kinda princess luna
0 likesIkr the movie could be very interesting.
0 likesDamn right
0 likesYes I definitely agree
0 likes@emiidollz me to I agree
0 likes😄❤️😇=😍
0 likes@Félinoire - نهه8هپاإإ565ى
0 likesI think that would be awesome!
0 likesYes
0 likesI agree
0 likesI agree
0 likesand it would give'em a ton of money
0 likesYesss gurrrl
0 likesgood idea hope they make something like that
0 likesYeah
0 likesYes
0 likes@Penguinpoodle It's called fiendship is magic. My personal favorite is the third issue.
0 likesYour right he should
0 likesYea that would be great
0 likesThat is pretty posebble
0 likesSame
0 likeslet's email them
0 likesikr
0 likesI agree
0 likesSame
0 likesyeah
0 likesyeah they need to and i all raddy want to see iy
0 likes@Penguinpoodle
0 likesWhat are they called
Yea
0 likesYeah
0 likesKings aren't like thampires
0 likesMy Little Pony Fiendship is magic
0 likesIT Is WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesActually, there a cómics that explain the origins of THE KING SOMBRA, Chrysalis, the Sirens, Tirek and what happens when Luna is trapped in the moon https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/My-Little-Pony-Fiendship-is-Magic
0 likes@Animation from Kaitlyn https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/My-Little-Pony-Fiendship-is-Magic
0 likesThat whole be great!
0 likesYes
0 likesA before sieries for everyone even the princesses like cadnace and luna and celestia
0 likesYes that would be awesome
0 likesLike COZY GLOW how did a foal become a demon?!
0 likesGreat idea
0 likesWait is Sombra a bank blank
0 likes🤩Wow
0 likesLike Cozy Glow
0 likeslol yeah
0 likesYea
0 likesI agree with you
0 likesYeah
0 likesWhat about princess trixie sparkle from magpiepony
0 likes@jabula that’s different
0 likes@Penguinpoodle yeah :) and the one about sombra and hope is cannon tho caus its also in the mlp game
0 likesThats just season 9
0 likes@Paul George ur not wrong actually
1 likeYes.
0 likesSo true😩😩
0 likesYes lol
0 likesNOT JUST NO BUT HELL NO
0 likesYeah, your right.
0 likesHe's a monster pony.
0 likesReally.
0 likesi whould love to see that nobody is evil for evil's sake they have a reson as sawtooth explained in a video so then how did most of these villians come to be?
0 likes@olivia zemlika true
0 likes@sunshine lover I know what chrysalis did was bad but she be forgiven.
0 likesyea
0 likesShe just wanted what was best for her son thorax like all mothers are
1 like@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 yes
0 likesAnd thorax kicked her out of the hive.
1 like@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 yea I feel like she should get a second chance
0 likesMe too
0 likesShe doesn't deserve to trapped in stone.
0 likesCurse you king thorax!!
0 likesYou good for nothing son of Queen chrysalis.
0 likesShe just wanted to help her son thorax.
0 likesI agree :)
0 likes@Toby_Proxy666 thank you Lily.
1 like@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 No problem :)
0 likesEyup I agree
0 likesYup
0 likesYes that's a good idea
0 likesTrue
0 likesYeah like Cozy Glow we have no idea what happened to her and I’d like to see more of Starlight and Sunburst and what happened to Starlight after he left (not the enslaving a town part) like I also want to know how she got HER cutie mark
0 likesWell we know tirek origin he want to take revenge on the pony for taking his brother and put him in tartarus which is a bad idea because villains always wants revenge
0 likesYah true its good I watched it like 10 timed
0 likes@Félinoire yes but then we would be able to see if it is cannon or not
0 likesDiscord is literally God he could have destroyed the elements and removed luna and celestias magic and nothing could stop him... but the friendship is magic... well discord is God he can destroy the tree and let tirek loose and make tirek take there magic but tirek could fight back but what would discord do... either discord knows he could do this but doesn't want to can't or was gonna do that but don't get on the bad side of discord...
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 queen crysalis litteraly forced thorax to be something no someone thorax wasn't I don't think you would wanna be with someone who would do that crystalis wasn't helping thorax lier
0 likes@ForgotenPie1138 but she just wanted the best of him.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 how she never did that and if she did she was being evil
0 likesI agree
0 likesagree
0 likes@dyandra dragon pony sad
0 likesI would love one for Cozy glow.
1 like@H M (Repeq) who
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 The filly from season eight who literally almost destroyed the world and worked with Lord Tirek to do it. She also reappears in Season Nine as one of the three main antagonists.
0 likesThere is a comic called FIENDship is magic
0 likes@maryam khansomber is one of the villains of course.
0 likesSame here! ^_^
0 likes@Félinoire Same here!
0 likes@Smith the inspiring animator king sombra the shadow man.🌙🌚🌝
0 likesYeah they should make one
0 likes@LAHeitman they should totally do that.
0 likesYes 🙃
0 likes@Believers Of God I guess chrissy is no longer welcome in the hive.
0 likes@~•SolarSky WCUE~• poor chrissy now she is no longer welcome in the hive.
0 likes😂😂
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 🌞🌞
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 😲❓
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 🎋🎍🎄🎃
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 golden sombra
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 with fear and killing.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 oh my😱
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 this means that sombra was from the ice of the artic north.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 wow
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 yes he is one bad umbre.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 OMG😨
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 bye.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 bye.-.
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 🎋🎍
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 😵💫👾
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 I tell you working with the mane really helped thorax be a better equestrian.
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 but how can chrysalis make things right with thorax.
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 she can't say sorry.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 ❤️😊
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 i miss chrysalis.
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 sombra is a bad guy.
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 he even hurt chrysalis's son thorax.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 😣
0 likes@Chloe_marie🇵🇭 what
0 likesi blame celestia and luna
0 likesBut there is book
0 likes@Robin Covington about him that evil monster?
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 it's about all the villains origins actully
0 likes@Robin Covington oh yeah the brony notion guy said so.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 did he say its a comic? Because that is the book I'm talking about
0 likes@Robin Covington he and tirek are the worst of all the villain in mlp culture.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 mhm
0 likes@Robin Covington mootastic cowy.
0 likes@Robin Covington but underestimate the villains.
0 likes@Renamon 565 ahat title
1 like@Renamon 565 what titpe
0 likes@Renamon 565 what title
1 like@slay mlp idw fiendship is magic issue 3
1 likeI agree I like the idea of🤗
0 likesNow I think we why all of the villain wanted and why they wanted it
1 likeYes I agree with you.
0 likes@Félinoire fhd VB IS VB it
0 likesSombra: *Destroys the literal Tree of Harmony*
1860 likesThe Outro: "FRIIEEEEENNDDSS!!!!"
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lmaooo
29 likeshey do u know in which season they told of the origin of the three tibes uniting?
22 likes😂
8 likes@Wajid Riz S2 E11
10 likesLmao the "FRIIEEEENNDDSS!!!! " always comes at the worst moment
19 likesyes
5 likes@Kokomi Qiqi ikrrr
4 likesF r e i n d s h i p
5 likes@*.•°3MB3R°•.* ah yes freindship.
4 likesLOL🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2 likesLOL! XD
2 likesthere’s simply one word to describe my feelings: m a g i c
3 likes@Kokomi Qiqi FFFFFRRRRRIIIIIIIEEEEEEENNNNNNDDSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
1 like@Kokomi Qiqi it's like a cool down 🤣 also I was insaniated at part 1 of the last three episodes and then "FRRREEIIENDSSS 😠🔥🔥👹'
1 likeThey need to make a movie about this. They’re missin out on a lot of money because our pony community is so big we would all want to see that
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Exactly. Instead they still fiercely try to cater to children
27 likesThe mlp gen 4 has literally so much potential but instead they rushed the ending and downgraded the characters' magical capabilities.
37 likesAnd there's STILL plenty of us that are NEW to the fandom. Even to this day. Like me.
8 likesThe community isn't big anymore and a movie based on a G4 villan wouldn't do well compared to G5 but yeah that would be great. Backstories on all the villans would be cool. There's much more they could have done with G4.
4 likesWhen you realize Sombra doesn't have a Cutie Mark 😆😆😆
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I think some point when he was studying dark magic he either unintentionally or intentionally erased his cutie mark
384 likes@Fantasy-Artist F
49 likesis Rarity (the fashion pony from the mane six) king Sombra's daughter!?!?!?!?! WHAT IN THE HEY?!?!?!?!?!?!?
26 likes@Taylor Norsey No he is talking about Princess Platinum not Rarity
129 likes@Taylor Norsey no there was an episode with rarity and sweetie belles parents
22 likes@Taylor Norsey hay lol
7 likes😂😂😂
4 likesI guess diamond tiara has someone new to tease and call blank flank
48 likes@Rowel Secuya lmaooooooooo
11 likes@glazer valoria I don’t think you get it, a cutie mark’s purpose is to tell you your destiny. Sombra has no cutie mark, so that means he technically doesn’t have a destiny- and in a way, a future.
30 likesi think it because this old wizard took his magic away and put it in his amulet
5 likes@хDockYх The old wizard was Star Swirl.
6 likes@Whimsical *previously Cloveriie* ah yes yes I know, I just suddenly forgot how to write his name correctly
4 likes@хDockYх Oh
1 like@Whimsical *previously Cloveriie* weird isn't it?
2 likes@хDockYх Yeah lol
1 likeIt's because Sombra isn't even a pony, the comics covered this.
10 likes@Taylor Norsey they're recreating what happened its rarity dressed up as princess platinum
6 likes“ (the fashion pony from the mane six)” if you know enough to call them the mane six you should know that on this channel you never need to add that or even call her the fashion pony, I would say the other unicorn lol
1 likeNO WONDER HE SO MAD LMAOO
1 like@Fantasy-Artist f
0 likesreally now i am soo curiouse about him and his cutie mark
0 likes@Fantasy-Artist Makes sense to me
1 likeWAIT A MINUTEE!!!!! You're right!!! I never realized that! WHAAAATTT!!!???
0 likesWhen the princess gave up their magic, their marks disappeared as well
1 like@Le poss What did the comics determine he is then?
1 likeHe is hiding it under his cape
0 likeswait he doesn't have a cutie mark (I haven't watched it for 3 years)
1 like@Fantasy-Artist yeah when star swirl banished king Sombra and stuff and destroyed his wings maybe it also erased his cutie mark
3 likes@Rowel Secuya no one's gonna judge her since they'll join XDDDDDDDDDDDD
1 likeSince no one seems to do it before
0 likesB l a n k
F l a n k
@Taylor Norsey no, it was a play and the princess was played bye rarity
0 likesThink we've found a new member of the CMC ;)
0 likes@Fantasy-Artist good point. I think perhaps it also could have been sucked into the amulet too, leaving him with only one type of magic left- the shadow magic.
2 likesPerhaps that was the true death of king cobalt and the birth of king sombra. He's always felt like he was less than a true satient and thought driven pony, more instinctual, like a ghost in a shell.
"Cryyyyysssstaaalls" amirite?
He would have become more shadow than pony if that was what had happened, and it kind of makes sense.
@Scarlette Foxx Gasp I never thought of it like that👍
0 likesoh aperently misty isn't the 1st pony to no have a cutie mark
1 likeBecause he's umbra.Umbra's doesn't have cutie marks
0 likesYou're totally right Maria
0 likes@Fantasy-Artist common Sombra L
0 likesHa blank flank
0 likesBlank flank blank flank🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@Taylor Norsey bro she just played princess platinum in the play
0 likesalso she’s not a pony she’s a unicorn
Yeah it’s like this guy doesn’t have talent 😂😂😂 lol
0 likesFacts bro was a blank flank
0 likes@Taylor Norsey She got the role of king Sombra's daughter, and that ep was a play
0 likesI think I know why he always has a cape! Except him being a king and all that... he doesn’t have a cutie mark and he’s ashamed so he wants to hide it!
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i like the idea that sombra is perhaps not even a pony at all! and we know only ponies can get cutiemarks so it makes a lot of sense
41 likesHe is a blank flank! I'll go get Tiara!
44 likesXl yang I’ll come with you :^ I will also make fun of his weird horn that’s half black half red lol
9 likesI have a theory that, when Sombra cast the spell to make him an alicorn, it removed his cutie mark. The spell blackened his soul and his entire destiny changed, leaving him cutie mark-less.
32 likesI never said it was a good theory...
Maybe his cutie mark faded away after getting his magic taken away from him?
3 likesI thought he didn't have a cutie mark because Star Swirl took away his magic, like when Celestia, Luna and Cadence gave their magic to Twilight so Tirek couldn't steal it, their cutie marks disappeared.
8 likes@spoopycrow that makes a lot of sense
1 like@solitary jewel You're right, he doesn't have a cutiemark bc he's not a pony but an umbrum with pony appearance
1 likeHe was a umbrum when younger but when the other umbrums "turned" him into a filly he forgot everything and basically lived as an orphan in the crystal empire thinking he was a pony until he realized what he was aaand, well the story is too long for a single comment lol but everything is in the comics, they sadly didn't include everything in the show! Sombra is a very cool character with a interesting history :)
I can't stop thinking about how much of an underused villain Sombra is...
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Agreed
53 likesYup I’m 100% with u on this
51 likesYep so much wasted potential, at least he got a second chance in the s9 premier
112 likesYup
16 likesHi
10 likesMlp underused so many things. Species that only had one episode like Diamond dogs, Buffalo, kirins, etc. We only got to see ONE zebra. And I think giraffes should have had a culture of their own...
109 likesyup
10 likesWell he did serve his use in the story and was then shattered so
16 likes@Alexander-Laurens Metcalf Yeah that's my point. They shouldn't have killed him off after like two appearances! Wtf!
38 likesI can’t stop thinking about how he sounded like a wannabe Elvis in his second appearance, very disappointed
29 likesdefinitely, that's why I made him the main focus in my own mlp au
14 likes@Izabella YT TV I just wish they respected his character more, and recasted his original voice actor too, I didn't like the new one, he was much less menacing than the first voice actor
27 likes@songdrop _ I'm curious, got a url for where I can find that?
7 likes@Wishing Star not really sorry, i started that au when i was like 8 (17 now) so most of it is on paper or in my head
7 likesi am thinking about making a youtube series about tho. If you want i can tell you about it over discord
My bestie has a crush on him
4 likesHE IS SO COOL
5 likesWhat
3 likes@Erango The Wise giraffes would've been epic
4 likesThen again, they did remove that neat affect from chrysalis's voice from her debut in season 2 so idk what I was expecting
8 likesOr “was”
1 likeI want more of him TBH.
1 likeHe showed up twice, the first time he was a deep-voiced Asshole who just shouted about crystals.
6 likesThe second time he acted like a bratty 8-year-old to all other villains and got his face melted off.
It doews fit well in
0 likesHe was misused, rather than underused. Season 3 Sombra is like, in top three best MLP villains. Season 9 Sombra is... like in top three worst. :-/
10 likesexactly, like Queen Crysallis has nothing on Sombra
1 likeI knowww......
0 likesYup
0 likesMy friends have better idea about Sombra. King Sombra and Princess Cadence rules of Crystal Empire but one day Sombra is corrupted by dark magic and this dark magic makes him hate Cadence. He wants to destroy her. Destroy, not kill. He wants her to watch how he destroys her ponies life and he creates a nightmares in crystal ponies dreams.
2 likesMe to
0 likes@DjGremlin
0 likesAdd that to the comic version and the disappointment can only rise.
@songdrop _
0 likeslink?
@Raximus3000 read my other reply
1 likeThey should do much better things with him.
0 likesUnderrated but a clown 🥱🥱
0 likes174747337% true
0 likesYet he's so loved by mlp fans that I really don't get it how Hasbro still underused him in season 9 first episodes.
1 likeSame
0 likes@Scarlet Roselyn i
0 likes@Raximus3000
0 likesCan't agree. Give me Siege Of The Crystal Empire over The Beginning Of The End any day.
@⸻
1 like"Add that to the comic version and the disappointment can only rise." Where do i say i do not prefer the comic version??
@Raximus3000
0 likesI thought you meant you were disappointed with the comic version too. The sentence was kind of vague, IMO.
Sorry for misreading you there.
@⸻
1 likeNo problem. It sad to see the comics doing a better job than the more expensive series.
Yep
0 likes. Sombra X Luna-celestia ETC. shippers .
0 likes. Angry spoon noises
I agree, he is one of the most powerful villains. Even in the beginning of the end episode sombra was on there for 1 scene, isn't he also one of the unreformed villains? And he was always my favourite
2 likes@Scarlet Roselyn ❤️
1 likethat but no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no started ruling evily
0 likeseveryone is helpful in rupees makeup video
0 likesIk, he was only in like two two part episodes and died at the end both times
0 likes@Izabella YT TV they didn’t have enough times also they made it to seam that sombra wouldn’t come back when he would
0 likesThat's why we need G4 back
1 like@Erango The Wise atleast theres something about zecora's home in season 10 (comic lol)
1 like@Eagletdagriffin Many feel that is too little, too late.
0 likesHe really is
1 likeHe was used twice, like all the other villains. (Except nightmare moon)
0 likes@eKarly But nothing about him was ever explained or hinted at tho
0 likesIkr
0 likesHe was only in like 4 episodes I think?
0 likesRIGHT!!!!
0 likesHe was good before
0 likesThey ruined him in Season 9
2 likesThat's profile..sorry to say but CURSED
0 likes@Lovebug's Funhouse It's meant to be
0 likesI feel like solving these things for you is like a math problem-
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I agree.
1 likeHow come Sombra got vaporized three times and came back at least two of three times? Perhaps this leaves room for him to continue randomly popping up in times of tragedy
125 likesSawtooth:"long ago he took over the crystal empire"
217 likesMe: thats why there no king or prince in My Little Pony
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@KOAY SZE YAO Moe first i like profile pic second sorry my friend list is full
3 likes@Jessica Handwork interesting
1 likeT. H. O. R. A. X A. B. O. Y. F. U. N. F. A. C. T
6 likesThorax a King. Shining Armour a prince.
13 likesU weirdo
0 likeswatch the whole MLP movie!
1 like@Bima Hartanto interesting
0 likesThere are no Kings or Queens (Aside from chritalis, she doesn't really count). There is only Princes and Princesses :)
3 likesYep…
0 likesSombra's past is actually pretty sad. His legacy was the royal family of Unicorns, respected, loved. Just 2 Alicorns took it away...
5 likesThe two Best parts of the whole video in my opinion
90 likes“Well till A chaos god warping as a dead goat brought him back so he Could troll his friends but you get the picture!”
“ I am sawtooth waves signing off until Friday after next bro-“
“sawtooth!”
“Excuse me”
“Right king sawtooth”
“That’s better now what is it this time Braeburn”
“You darn Eaten all of our apples, this here is the last one I’ll give it to you if you take off your amulet”
“Ugh whatever just give me the Apple”
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The worst thing that can happen: Well till a god warping as a dead * one second add *. Goat brought back to troll his friends. Me if it would have happened: Dead add goat or just dead goat I’m confused
2 likesLARPing*
1 likeSawtooth: "And that was the end, of king Sombra..."
47 likesMe: *almost crying*"That was deep."
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Yeah 😭🤚🏻
3 likesSawtooth: and that was end of king sombra
1 likeme: YAY NO MORE KING SOMBRA LETS CELEBRATE
I was confused when I first saw him in the Crystal empire episode. No lines, no small details, it was almost like he was just a part of the smoke. It was pretty confusing but thanks Sawtooth
27 likesWhat's kinda dumb is that they changed discord. But they had to kill king sombra. That's messed up. XD
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I know right!?
3 likesI feel like they had so much missed potential with sombra...
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Agreed 100%
65 likesI mean, in the comics he really was badass
126 likesSame
19 likesYes
13 likes@Komitarz yes
12 likesTrue
7 likesGood concept bad execution
32 likesit would make sense if the comics " origins " [ Sombra version ] " siege of the crystal empire " happened in between mlp and twilight in the last episode
26 likesit makes wayyyyyy more sense than this
@Chanakya Verpula yeah! It would and more depth to his character. I personally think that an event as huge as a king turning into a ailcorn and going evil, would be at least mentioned, even if it was just a random quote. So this is just coming out of left field
19 likes@Cupcake Prime yeah . If the story of the comics that i told happened after mlp then sombra would have a good arc and be reformed at the same time without worrying about him being released.
18 likesHis character arc would be like zuko in avatar the last Airbender
@Chanakya Verpula yeah! And great reference by the way zuko is my favorite character in ATLA
3 likes@Cupcake Prime I can just start to hear the whole soundtrack of avatar while reading this comment
4 likes@Chanakya Verpula that show is recently sized how long were you reading my comment?!😂😂
3 likes@Cupcake Prime no not literally. I meant that the first song in the soundtrack started to play in my mind when I read this comment and is still going on
3 likes@Chanakya Verpula oh...
3 likesThey could have reformed him
5 likesCries
They really did
3 likesIKR he was feared so much in the show but got defeated immediately-
2 likesIt’s been like 3 years since I watched the show so i might be wrong
In my opinion, they should've dived deeper into his origin and see what corrupted him, making the viewers attached to him, the design of king sombra is great, but, i think, as the king of shadows, they should've made his design more nightmare fuel to not only strike terror into the ponies hearts but ours too, and like someone has said already in this comment, make him more badass... now thats, the GREATEST villain equestria will ever have, but sombra also needs his redemption arc and to be reformed
8 likesYeah he could have been a prince instead of just princess
4 likesSaaame! I still cry because of all of his WASTED potential to be the best antagonist 😭😭😭
3 likesbut there's the comics 😐 He has backstory
1 likeMega Nz comics aren't technically canon
4 likes@Lini D but it's something. At least it's official.
1 likeThey could do much better things with him.
5 likesHe looks so cool and so are his powers, but in the show he's kind of a big doofus
5 likesI agree with you, he is a complete mystery
0 likes@Komitarz Frikin yeah
1 likeHe had a character arc yall, and it was a cool one
If rather have the graphic novel stories about him than tripe of the new series (also wouldn't hurt my eyes as much).
0 likesI really wanted more about him it was basically "Oh hey look an evil male unicorn let's zap it with colorful magic 3 times" that's it.
0 likesI love how this guy never discounts anything.
7 likesEven when he says that the shadow form is not a special race, he says that it is still possible, but we just have no evidence.
I love how the comics are referred to as "Questionable sources." Well played, Sawtooth.
6 likesYou did a great job for the opening of this video! Loved it.
6 likesLet's just take a moment to appreciate this youtuber who helps us with my little pony 👁👄👁💅
22 likesSombra really went
22 likes“Hippity hippity hop your now my property”
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Way to butcher that.
2 likes"Hippity hoppity, this is now my property."
I love how your theories become stories and actually make a lot of sense. Imma make it my canon until mlp disproves or proves it lol
4 likesI love that you told it in a poetic way
5 likesThey needs to be my teacher, like I watch him while in school he's more interesting tbh No offense Teachers
0 likesThis was incredible! I couldn’t agree more, this is very likely to have actually been intended to be the plot. I never would have thought of this. Good job :)👍🏻
5 likesThe fact about sombra being dead is false. The crystal heart might have used its power to banish him once more. We did see sombra, tirek and queen chrysalis. So sombra couldnt have possibly gone in season 3, He went in season 9 posssibly. Or the mane 6 may have faced them again between the time period of twilights cornation. The entire series is so confusing among these theories.
4 likesKing Sombra could of been an amazing villain and was underused, I want more about it and like how in the comics they had him. He is my all time favorite pony and I love him.
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I hate him
0 likesI think it's "A Tale of One Shadow", it also fits so perfectly. But I also agree with your theory!
4 likesThat would explain why Sombra is always seen in a cape because he is covering his scars from when he lost his wings.
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I will love Twillight reaction when she final saw his scars.
39 likesno king sombra dosent have scars he wearing a cape but he doesnt have cutie mark
27 likes@TheOnlySafa Taken out the comics I get an explanition of why sombra doesn t have a cutie mark. When the princess give their magic to Twillight their cutie marks dessapear
40 likesif you watch season 9 when sombra destroy's the tree of harmony his cape blows and no scars so yeah sombra is powerful he can''t get hurt by those ponies or creatures
18 likes@I like rice pudding well sombra has magic
3 likes@TheOnlySafa No! Now i get nothing again...also did everyone have seen Star Swirl's cutie mark?
8 likesWell when CG lost her horn there was no scar
4 likesSombra is an umbrum.i dont think he will ever get a cutie mark.
2 likesThat makes sense.
2 likesOkey now i have a very weak explanition of Sombra's cutiemark. As we know there are types of Magic. Unicorn magic, pegasus magic, earth pony magic and... In the show a cutie mark is a mysterious simbol that can even tell the destiny of some pony. In my head canon the cutie marks are magic that are stongly related with some pony talent.
5 likesMaybe Starwirl not only toke Sombra's pegasus and earth pony magic. Also toke away his cutiemark.
It can be, when in the show Starlight stole Twillight cutiemark she can continue use magic in a lower level.That will explain why the alicorn amulet give knolege of powerfull spells and a great hability to Magic, because there is Sombra's cutiemark.
@TheOnlySafa season nine still hasnt come out and i am writung this in january 1 2021 just sayin do that youvdint get confused
0 likes@I like rice pudding yes
0 likesWhat. If he’s hiding his wings for horn power more
0 likes@「 • 🍁 Fumiko... 🍁 • 」 ya thats because she was actually a pegasus so she just turned back into what she was before afyer she got defeated btw her name is cozy glow not cg
0 likes@~lizzie~ bruh ik ch isn’t her name just abriviations
0 likes@Ny'Jai Tv yeah me to
0 likes@「 • 🍁 Fumiko... 🍁 • 」 Maybe there was, we just can't see it because of her curly hair
0 likesScars!?
0 likes@kuldip singh dude!😒😒
0 likesPft, I just rambled on the other Sombra video about his potential backstory and was slapped in the face with how well this one brought it all together 🤣 By the way, your music is phenomenal!
4 likesmy man, you deserve to be a writer for the mlp comics or future mlp content in general
2 likesThat's a good story
0 likesBut what about the comic? The one about his backstory? Doesn't it say he's an umbrum and explain exactly why he is the way he is? And there are unicorn and Pegasus crystal ponies, radiant hope and princess amore were both unicorns
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Afaik the comics are not intended to be canon to the show. They're it's own thing.
3 likesAyo wasn't Cadence a Pegasus? Also she isn't a crystal pony. She doesn't have weird shaped eyes
3 likes@♡︎Cinnamon♡︎ princess amore, not cadence. Princess amore only appeared in the comics, and she was only a unicorn, never an alicorn. she lived long ago back when umbra made his very first appearance
5 likes@Jasper Sorry I thought you misspelled Cadences name! I haven’t read the comment so I apologise
3 likesComic
2 likes@♡︎Cinnamon♡︎ no worries! a lot of people haven't, I myself haven't I just know of it lol.
2 likes@Jasper oh ok
1 likeOk, when i imagine somba's voice, its never his canon one, its always the one from 'The fall of the crystal empire.' It's way darker and sounds exactly how i picture him. ( great vid btw, go check it out.)
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Same. The one in the series doesn’t fit at all
19 likesSombra: Invades the Crystal Empire
1 likeMe: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HELP!!!!!!!!!
The series voice just really doesn't fit him 😂
2 likesThis doesnt match the thing u said in that one vid titled "THE TRUTH ABOUT STAR SWIRL" where u said he invented alicorns and experimented on Celestia and Luna.
0 likesI also think based on the time period you placed King Cobalt in it could be possible that Cobalt’s father is Starswirl. Sombra looks like he could’ve been a black or gray pony which matches starswirl . Starswirl is clearly old enough to probably be around his late 80s (I’m assuming), therefore Cobalt was born around the time Starswirl was in his Middle Ages, or around his early 30s. It also makes sense magically. Sombra(Cobalt) and Starswirl both have about the same magical ability.Starswirl can trap people in limbo, and Sombra can make entire nations disappear. Just saying, that would make a great plot twist, and it has evidence to support it, so maybe you could do a theory on that.
1 likei want sombra to make a return in the new series. he would fit so well into the new plot
0 likesThe story might be true but Sombra returned in "The beginning of the end".
6 likes“Well till a chaos god brought him back so he could troll his friends”this is the best part of the video change my mind
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I won’t bc ur right
10 likes"I'll give it to yaif you take off the amulet."
15 likes"Uhg whatever just give me the apple!"
Do you have a
2 likesXD yes that’s the best part 😂
3 likesWhy hello there
2 likesDo I spot another Omnisexual friend?
@IzzIsHere yes you do
1 likeI wanna just skip the video to that part and after that line just say “that’s the end of the video” it’s the true best part
1 likeWe do a little trolling
2 likesThis all fits well, though there's one thing I notice - when Trixie put on the amulet she gained the magic that was in it, but she stayed a unicorn. If your theoru on how ponies become alicorns is true, then shouldn't any pony become one upon wearing the amulet if all 3 kinds of pony magic are in it, and revert back to their base form upon taking it off?
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YES I WAS LOOKING FOR A COMENT LIKE THIS THANK YOU
0 likesNow I got curious. Could he be redeemed?If yes how?
1 likeSombra is my favorite MLP villain. I'm very curious
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He can't be redeemed. In the Siege arc of the comics, he is redeemed but that's not canon.
0 likes8:46 was my favorite part it made me laugh
4 likesi love how Sawtooth just wants to eat apples so much in the ending its hilarious XD
0 likesI can only imagine princess Platinum being like:
944 likesDad can you stop trying to be a ruler?! I want to go out with my friends!
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“Can you stop being a dictator for one hour? I agreed to meet my friends at the mall!”
174 likesYou are so right
24 likes"Father can you just please just take a break from the komunista speeches? I'm going to face-time my friends and I need quietness."
94 likes@Cosmicicle komunista speeches really well that sounds fancy
26 likes@Cosmicicle, the whats?
13 likesI just read the wiki about the founders of Equestria, and it was said that Princess Platinum's father was not Sombra, but a unicorn named King Bullion. I don't know if this canon or not since its very anonimous in the series. But if it was canon, than Sawtooth's theory about Sombra needs to be updated.
32 likesWait,idea hatching...the founders of equestria were the mane 6 before the mane 6,but after the pillars were on limbo
14 likes@Hiccy69 well he only would have to change the name :-:
14 likesWhat a silly thing you have send in the comments
3 likeshahah same
2 likesThis actually makes some sense. It explains how powerful he is for sure, and just how ancient of a villain he is
0 likesNicely done! I really like this theory, although sadly it's debunked by Journal of the Two Sisters since the king is actually called King Bullion and he is Princess Platinum's father. That is, if you consider the spin-off books and comics canon I suppose.
0 likesI never even knew that Sombra was a alicorn 😂 But this makes pretty much sense
1 likeThis whole theory sounds good and all but I feel there’s one thing that might of been forgotten or not considered. The Princes Sisters had parents that supposedly ruled before they were given the throne. So maybe just switch out the part where instead of the sisters popping out and one day raising the sun & moon. I think it was their parents who originally were the first ones destined to raise sun/moon and take over Equestria @SawTooth Waves
0 likesIn "the Journal of the Two Sisters", the king's name is "Bullion". He was apparentally understanding and knew that the princesses represented Equestria as a whole. He still ruled over the region of Unicorns he ruled originally.
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@xPearl_Heartx isn’t the journal of the two sisters the “only” cannon book?
21 likes@SuspiciouslySollux Correct. Maybe we can pull some syncretism and combine this Theory Video and the Journal.
15 likes@Tudor Aragorn of Greyscot true. After all, both Stygian and Luna stumbled across a fragment of darkness that corrupted them into Nightmare Moon and The Pony of Shadows, whose to say Bullion didn't have a similar encounter... though sadly did not get freedom like the other two
14 likesThe journal of the two sisters is not canon because it in the book it says that star swirl equals Sombra and IM SORRY WHAT WAS THAT? insert star swirl getting puffed back
1 like@€LOLBIT¥ I just flipped through my copy, where does it say that?
4 likesThat book also said that Celestia and Luna were born alicorns
3 likes@€LOLBIT¥ did event horizon say I’m sorry what was that in a collab with sawtooth?
1 like@SuspiciouslySollux The Journal is not canon anymore since s7 finale. In the Journal, it was written that Starswirl was still around when Celestia and Luna found the Tree and crowned Princesses, but s7 finale established that Starswirl and the Pillars disappeared into Limbo before the Tree of Harmony grew.
6 likesI don't know why people keep clinging to the Journal as canon.
@SOFIA LEE (Student) oh cool!
0 likesthis channel is underrated and i wish he did post weekly again if he was able too
0 likesTo this day, I still think that the IDW Comics timeline (aka the "rumors") would have been better for Sombra. However, in a canon where we are given no reason to sympathize with him, I don't see why this theory wouldn't be plausible. If he's not gonna get reformed or given much of a chance in the story, why even give him a backstory in the canon? Or at least, a backstory that pits him in a better light? In the show's main universe, this is likely the answer, and we will probably get no more G4 media that may disprove it.
1 likeAmazing content! But that intro really gave me the chills! And I LUV it
0 likesstory telling arc beautiful! if this was a book i whould whant to read it over and over agian
0 likesIn the (canon) "Journal of the two sisters", it's said that the name of the king of the unicorns is "King Bullion". It's also noted that Celestia and Luna were alicorns before they became princesses.
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I said that too about Celestia and Luna
15 likesSo the name is Not King Cobalt, But King Bullion.
17 likesBecause they were born alicorns, mhm.
12 likes@ArumiDespaire Asahina That it actually doesn't say. Only that they were raised by alicorns, but it's possible they just ascended (or were ascended) very early in life. ...Or the Journal could be wrong. Some things in it (esp. regarding the Tree of Harmony) are explicitly contradicted by later parts of the show.
61 likesNot to mention Luna's grammar is atrocious, so there's no way the writing can be authentic to begin with.
Agreed.
2 likesHe said the were alicorns and then became crowned
8 likesI would imagine that the Journal would be considered one of those "questionable sources" Sawtooth mentioned.
17 likes@ArumiDespaire Asahina it’s not possible, I mean, it is as flurry heart is a born Alicorn but the princesses were shocked when that happened, it could mean two things (1) they were astonished to see a alicorn being born so that means that they weren’t born alicorns either (2) they were actually born alicorns and are from a different place so they never thought they would see this
11 likes@You_know _me Flurry shouldn't be an alicorn, as Cadence was a pegasus before becoming one. Flurry should either be a pegasus or a unicorn, not an alicorn. Celestia and Luna are natural alicorns.
7 likes@Silver Scroll The journal is canon. Therefore Celestia and Luna were natural alicorns.
5 likes@ArumiDespaire Asahina it’s still a theory for me honestly (celestial and Luna one) but there is one theory which explains why flurry is an alicorn.
5 likes(The theory is not mine at all, I saw someone comment it and it’s pretty solid.)
The theory is that Flurry heart is a genetic chimera. As in, Cadance had twins in the beginning (one a unicorn from shining armor’s genes and a Pegasus from Candance’s as she was originally a Pegasus) but during the third trimester or something, one twin absorbed the other and they merged together resulting in Flurry Heart being a alicorn as she absorbed her twin’s wings/horn. The twins being different (Pegasus and unicorn) are supported by Pinkie Pie’s neighbors/employers (?) children she babysat who had unicorn and pegasus genes in their family tree.
I think one of Sawtooth’s theories says that they were originally just going to replace the 6 wizards to raise the sun and moon which earned them the ponies’ love and that combined them into Alicorns. So that could be what it meant, they turned into alicorns and then they were made princesses
2 likes@ArumiDespaire Asahina How can it be canon when the show contradicts it at multiple points? I'm sorry, but that's a baseless assertion on your part. I've already explained why. However, I fear discussing this with you may be as pointless as discussing the bible with Christians.
5 likes@Silver Scroll Lauren Faust literally said they were natural, and even if she isn't working on the show anymore, what she says is true. It doesn't matter if the other people who were working on the show got rid of what she wanted- she was the creator, and no one else has the right to take her show away from her.
3 likesbut if that was true then why are all the allicorns princcesses????? there could be allicorns in a village but with less power and the princcesses could be more powerfuller right????
2 likes@ArumiDespaire Asahina If that were the measure of canon, everything starting from the S2 finale would be non-canon - including most of the best episodes of the series. Either way, it's not the official canon anymore. You can treat it like a Legends canon the way Star Wars does it, I guess, though it's hardly as substantial in this case.
8 likes@Subash Christopher And this is why I believe in Sawtooth Waves' immediately preceding alicorn theory as outlined in their Finally Solving Alicorns video.
5 likes@ArumiDespaire Asahina but do you remember celestia in “the crystaling” she said “a birth of an alicorn is something equestria has never seen” meaning they should have accomplished something before they became princesses (correct me if I’m wrong)
2 likes@Konan😶 Yeah, they mean that an alicorn has never been born in Equestria. Because the sisters aren't from Equestria. They're from a colony of alicorns, according to the journal. They weren't born in Equestria, hence why they'd say that.
1 likeThe book is helpful. We don't know how or why they became alicorns, just that it was before they took on sun/moon tasks, and that they were alicorns before they got their cutie marks.
0 likesYour thoughts are fitting the story, timeline, and that you have a thought of a fitting story
3 likesHonestly everything you said sounds right and doesn't really have a flaw in it I watched this show restlessly at a kid and I still like it to this day until they change the art style 😂
0 likes5:10 How dare you use the cover art from Paradise, I still haven't recovered. I'm in shambles, I'm in scrambles.
3 likes7:12 Just like how Discord's magic corrupted Grogar's Bell
I think this story matches the show perfectly and is perfectly cannon!!! Also when you said that he didn’t look like a regular unicorn, but look at mist mane! She looks like him minus the dark colours and flowing mane!!! Sawtooth tell me what you think!
0 likesSawtooth: Explains Sombra's origins in story-like fashion
123 likesMe: Flashbacks to watching Inkrose head cannon stories when I was younger
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Yes! I loved those.
2 likes@Anonymous Cause Why Not Me two. I kinda feel like her head cannons were better than what the show gave us, especially her head cannon on Celestia and Luna. Or it's just the fond memories and nostalgia.
1 like@Abida Ali wouldn’t saw better than the show (except for the Celestial and Luna one), but yeah. Full nostalgia.
3 likesNow the only question is why Trixi didn’t become an Alicorn when she had the amulet but it might be a matter of breaking it or a spell
2 likesI wish they would at least acknowledge the journal of the two sisters and see if they can make it work with their alicorn theory
1 likeI would love if there were a season 10 but it didn’t exactly fit with twilight being Ruler Of Equestria, it was a series of people’s origins.
1 likeAs much as people view Hasbrouck having a lot of missed opportunities, I see it as opportunities fulfilled by the fandom for being so creative in taking even the smallest tidbits such as the alicorn amulet looking like Sombra and turning it into this fantastic head Canon
0 likesSo much creative works have r been done for the love of the show and just coming up with what ifs that really wow us.
I don't see mlp as a lot of shoulda woulda coukda's, but the spark of something even grander. The creativity of and just the fandom itself.
Excellent video.
FIENDship is Magic #1 exists and explains perfectly what Sombra is.
1 likeSawtooth: we haven't seen evidence for that
2 likesTantabus: Am I a Joke to you?
There is a theory that luna had fallen in love with King Sombra, so she could have given him a bit of her Alicorn magic willingly but something happened to him to have his wings taken from him. Maybe the Alicorn amulet was a gift from someone with mal intentions cursing it as soon as he wore it taking his wings and kindness with it.
0 likesIf this was true, Sombra didn’t have flowing hair in your story. How did the sisters get them?
1 likeIf Sombra was an Alicorn, i think that would've made him the first male Alicorn because you know there were never any records kept about any male Alicorns ever existing?...but Sombra did look kinda badass with wings in the thumbnail!!!
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what about the pony of shadows, didn't he technically become an anlicorn?
6 likes@Liv Ryanne Noble Dean No because he himself was inside the actual shadow in his original unicorn form.
5 likesI’ve never even asked myself why he didn’t have wings.... and now I’m mad I never thought about it
0 likesAdd on I thought of that maybe instead of Sombra seeing the beautiful crystal empire as nice and glory he saw a minefield of crystals that maybe his crystal was inside and that's when we see the crystal ponies working with metal shafts around there legs he was just looking for his crystal to one day get back his powers.Just a little thought your prob gonna see through it but thanks for entertaining me everyday!
0 likesSo i have only watched up to season two and haven't been able to get into the series and has been years since I saw it so I don't remember much but I have always thought that king sombra was interesting and I appreciate this video. For some reason I can only watch your videos because you bring up interesting topics. Though I did enjoy the new recent movie and loved the concept behind it. For the first time I can admit that I am not a fan of the series but do enjoy aspects that are interesting. Though my sister is a hardcore fan and she had to describe an overall summary of the series in her own words. I however am a fan of equestria girls because the concept of twilight going to the human world was pretty rad to me. Lol.
0 likesHey so I just realised something that I never noticed before and am surprised you didn't either
0 likesAs we see twilight cast a separating spell on the animals in Tartarus to their original form
We all questioned the origins of the magical creatures of Tartarus, and how they were fused at some point right?
But, Something struck me...
We've seen Twilight form the de-fusion spell as we see to use their magic, but did you know? we've also seen her perform the FUSING spell once, just once, before, very very early on in the show...
Anyone recall? anyone catching up yet? It has to do with apples, bats and a very kind friend ;)
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Obviously please tell me you caught up because now the whole new question is, what the heck? like seriously, ponies, infused with other creatures? how many are there? besides seaponies- wait are seaponies also an infusion between griffin and ponies?...
How many unknown species are out there that we don't even know if they were magically fused together.
What about Sombra? he's obviously not the standard pony given the horn??, Chrysalis and the Changelings? Crystal ponies? Keirans or whatever they were called? What about the origins of unicorns and pegasus in the first place? Does this also mean twilight can perform a fusion spell of a flying creature with an earth pony and suddenly they could have wings?
Very interesting concept to me honestly, But what do you all have to say?
Nobody:
1126 likesThe crystal empire: h-
Sombra: iTs fReE rEAl eStAtE
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1 like@The Darkness Minions the Crystal ponies owned the Crystal Empire
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0 likesthis makes me feel something what happened to princess platinum as she would have also been striped of her royalty. did she follow her fathers hoofprints? did her legacy live on? did her fathers actions affect her life? I feel like the name rarity would live on the legacy but through out so many moons they would forget where platinum came from.
0 likesYou are a EXCELLENT story teller
0 likesHey, I just watched the entire video!!! but a thought came to my mind, you've already done other 3 videos with "how to reform mlp vilians" as the main topic. I think you know where im going at this point. Even tho Sombra has already died 2 times already. Would it be posible to actualy reform him? 'Cause if his case its similar to nighmare moons one. Why wouldn´t he be able to reform to? I know It's probably the crazyest tought I've ever had, but I'm courios of whats your opinion, im sure you're not going yo read this but I wanted to give it a shot!!!
1 likeI like to think that sombra wanted to have all the alicorn magic to himself, because he was a alicorn king once,and because of the crystal empire he lost them, he wanted to take revenge that’s why he took over the crystal empire, for revenge, so that’s my thought. What about everybody else?
0 likesWhat my theory is: trixie couldnt use the full power of the amulet because she didnt have alot of power to begin with. What im trying to say is that the amulet can only give a certain amount of power depending on how strong you are. So if twilight put it on then she would (in theory) take out all the amulets power but if rarity put it on she wouldnt have access to all the power but rather the amount of power she can hold. It's just a theory tho-
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Fluttershy would become the greatest princess allicorn ever (XD)
11 likes@EG and AJ true xD! But since its corrupted magic wouldnt that mean That she would be mean? And it would only boost her current power if my theory is right lol
6 likesif twilight would put it on do u think she would have enough power to change a ponys "character" like how trixie had enough power to change a ponys age would twilight possibly have enough power to make for example an earth pony into an alicorn or etc.
9 likes@Lilley well yeah. After all she is the ruler of equestria. Twilight could (if she put it on) doom equestrian in my opinion.
6 likesNewton’s third law, “For every action there’s an equal and opposite reaction.” It does apply here. Look it up.
3 likesThat does make sense, especially the first part. But about Star Swirl the bearded taking his power into an amulet, I think that doesn’t make sense. You said in the first part of your video gems were magical, so why would he store the magic in a gem (where it is even more powerful). I think it makes much more sense that Sombra creates the Alicorn Amulet. He puts a spell on a gem/puts some of his power in a gem. Since gems are magical in Equestria, it multiplies his power several times. He casts one more simple spell so only he can take it off, and he wears it so he changes into an alicorn. But since Sombra already had pretty much power, his power multiplied is to strong, it would eat him up, so he casts one more spell on it, saying that the amulet gives him as much power as he needs at that moment. But when Starswirl overthrew him, he didn’t need much power, so his amount of power was multiplied by 0. He hadn’t power, so the amulet has no power, and Starswirl casts a simple spell so the amulet flies to him. Sombra tries to battle Starswirl, but he has put a part of his power into the amulet, so Starswirl is stronger. At the last moment Sombra casts a spell so he gets teleported to a place where no one would ever find him. From there, it’s just the story we all know. (sorry for my English)
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Another theory could be that magic is like energy, it can't dissapear. So StarSwirl knowing this knew that the saffest way was put all Sombra's magic in a gem.
1 likeYet i have a hard time explain the part of only the user can take it off :v
Wait, you said that you need to absorb magic from all three tribes to become an alicorn, right? Does it only apply to ponies? If not, then would Tirek be an alicorn, with two horns and no wings?
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves I recently searched what Sombra means and it means Shadow in Spanish, that would explain why his magic looks that way and what his name as a king would have been,
0 likesWhy do you have the alicorn element
0 likes“How king sombra came to be.”
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YouTube gave me a Barbie ad for some reason
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6 likesThis happened while I read this comment
12 likesi got a Alaska politic ad 😑
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4 likesSame but my add was about white hat jr
5 likesI got a McDonald's ad
4 likesSame
2 likesTHATS HAPPENED TO ME IT GAVE ME A DISNEY PLUS AD XD
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1 likeGot a chick fill a add
2 likesLol i got an fast food ad which told me to order some XD
2 likesWhen I read your comment I got an add when he said “how sombra came to be” and it gave me a mc Donald Korean burger ad
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1 likeYou are so mean Kawaii I hate you
0 likes@Art’s Random Stuff Same here. One reason I don't think there should be ads on YouTube...or they should at least put them at the beginning and/or end or the video. Having them in the middle, usually cuts off what somebody's saying, and/or ruins the mood of the video.
2 likes@Hyrulian Hero I think it gives either YouTube money or the creator money by putting ads
1 like@Angry Ari Yeah, I know...but I wish they'd only put them at the beginning or end of the clip.
1 like@Hyrulian Hero Yeah I agree
1 likeI got a pottu trainer ad
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1 likeMy husband only ever watched the series with me because of sombra but when they dumbed him down and the near to last season, he was ticked.
0 likesI'm beginning to think that the real reason as to why he turned to evil and became a tyrant, was the fact that he'd lost his daughter.
0 likesIf King Sombra was once king Cobalt, and he had a daughter called princess platinum, it possibly was the grief of losing that someone that he loved. Causing him to feel as if he lost everything even his legacy, and feeling inferior.
Around 7:48 time mark in the video, it was stated that "he always knew about the magic property of crystals". Even as to going as far as sending his daughter in search of new land, by using the crystals as a sort of compass.
Perhaps during one of her expeditions to finding new land, tragedy struck as an unfortunate event occured. That may of ended her life, and for King Cobalt to receive word about the death of his heir and seeing the two sisters rise in power, infuriated him.
He knew that the power that the two sisters possessed, should of been "rightfully" his. It was a painful reminder of his past, his grief, his trauma, and his lust for power slowly turned him insane. Of losing someone that was closest to him that he unfortunately would never see again.
I appoligize that this was long, but as I watched the video I was able to piece together, and hopefully pinpoint the exact cause (or close too) what had happened, this is all just my opinion. Thank you for reading!
Can we talk about how in princess twilight sparkle (the ep) when twilight is using alicorn magic to change the potion it looks like sombras magic. It further adds on to the theory of sombra being an alicorn
1 likeWho else noticed that alicorn wings have more feathers and are a bit more fancy
1 likeCozy as an example and other alicorns have the same just not as compared to pagasus wings
Can we appreciate how amazing the creativity in this fandom-
32 likesI just watched the audio of the Sombra comic and so many questions. Oh, I am so into this theory of course.
0 likeswhy? This doesn't really offer explanation. Just stuff that happened. Where is the why?
Secondly, is this actually canon? I love Sawtooth's King Cobalt theory.
His mother is a crystal?
How did Amore know?
Why is Sombra like this?
Apparently Amore is still alive at the end? How?
Distant relative to Cadance? Tell me more.
Why did he only say Sombra at the beginning?
Luna was trapped for 1000 years ... The crystal empire disappeared before. The crystal empire reappeared after. 🤣 Logic.
Darkness was my CUTIE mark 🤣
i really like this theory, even tho the part abouthim just finding the crystal empire and without a ruler (or ruler weak enough for the weakend sombra to overthrow) seems kind of sketchy, also if he had a doughter then who did he have it with and what hapend to her after sobra went super nuts alicorn mode? (would love if you made a theory about that too but mabey its a bit weird to make a theory about another theory....?) <3
0 likesIf it’s true that it was his daughter then I’d be imaging that his daughter maybe died. He being so ripped with grief at the loss of his heir and beloved daughter and thinking that the princesses who seemed to have never ending power could help. He begged for their help with brining his daughter back. But being new to their abilities and not understanding how to properly address the king. In a moment of forgetfulness. Instead of trying to help the king move on and being sympathetic. Or explaining why they couldn’t help. They just told him No. and sent him away. Maybe even having him dragged out possibly in front of his own people when he broke down asking why they wouldn’t help him. Feeling humiliated and broken. The king left. Ending up at the crystal empire. Where he was amazed by the beauty of everything possibly reminding him of his daughter in some way. Being that the empire is not regular pony’s and wouldn’t have been part of the tribes probably. He was most likely seen as a god of sorts. Taken in as their king. He spent countless nights looking into magic. Trying to find comfort or assurance or even a way to bring his daughter back. And this led him to the gem that would become the powerful pendant we know today. He being a already powerful unicorn used it to make him into a Alcorn. And this power just drove him deeper. Feeling so close to the solution. The princess having heard of this came to take the pendant from him. And I believe they succeeded. Turing him back into a unicorn. This would only further his hate for them as the young princess take what he saw as his only chance at getting possibly his only remaining family member back to them. They might tell him that it was a risk and he could die but what does he care in this state? They leave the king to grieve thinking that’s the end of it. And in his grief. Alone. Desperate. Angry. And broken. A transformation similar to nightmare moon happened. His emotions using his own magic to turn him into king sombria. Although it wouldn’t be him anymore. But his pure raw magic ruling. And his magic wants to be more powerful. To fulfill something that he can’t remember. To fix a missing part of him that made him this upset. The princess’s view this not as a mistake of them not helping the king grieve but as him being selfish and power hungry. And not even taking the time to try and help him out of his situation. They pull a nightmare moon and just banish their problems lol.
0 likesI personally like the theory that he and Chrysallis ruled the Crystal empire together.
0 likesAnd that at some point he grew power hungry and Chrysallis was forced to escape with the changlings leaving her bitter
If Sombra was an alicorn. Then does that mean Shining Amour could be an Alicorn????
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Ooooo interesting
25 likeshe did make a vid on that.
11 likesYassss
1 like@Winter Glow wasn't that a very old video?
2 likes@Gunsana It is.
1 likeOoooh yaaaaa,canon!
1 like@Tabby It would’ve an interesting episode in the show
2 likes@Winter Glow yea I remember but just bringing the topic back up
1 likeYeah but they rather not
1 likeLe gasp
1 like@NotFoundR mhm
1 likeMaybe
1 likeOoooooo
1 likeYes that’s true and it would be amazing if that was true but I also saw a video on YouTube that wasn’t one of Santas race and he was a unicorn just like it only he helped another unicorn so he wasn’t always evil when he was by himself
5 likesNah
1 likeI guess you’re right! After all being a Alcorn can come upon anyone with a good heart! (except for Luna, Sombra and, cozy glow! ._.)
2 likesOooh
1 likeThats a good point
1 likeHe made a thoery on that too
1 likeI...
0 likesthat does make sense because the sisters were loved and became alicorns, why not shining armor?
2 likes@Winter Glow the video came out last year it’s not that old
0 likesMybe
0 likesThey all ready have one male alicorn and he turns evil so......
4 likesAlicorns aren't just restricted to females.
0 likesI think he made an episode on that, but he only said that Shining Armor couldnt have been because Cadence was the Princess of romantic love and parent love. But in that case, couldn’t Shining Armor have been the Prince of Fatherly love? 🤔 they both play different roles in Flurry’s lives and she loves them BOTH, so in my personal opinion it would have been better for Shining Armor to have turned into an alicorn, especially considering that Cadence, Twilight and Flurry Heart all had to watch him grow old and die 😢
3 likesI think he should be. Why would you only have one Alicorn for romance? Romantic love needs atleast two people
0 likesSo let’s just say he was the same type unicorn that “mist mane” (the pillar) was then gained wings the shadow pony put that evil power was better than using your power for good in his mind... Then the sisters may have said something similar to this “You shouldn’t use your magic like this... you don’t know what your doing!” Then he would refuse then celestia would grab the alicorn amulet sucking up the other two tribes out of him making him a unicorn and very mad :3
0 likesSo many villains were downgraded and underused. In the previous seasons the villains seemed much more powerful and fit their roles but it in the last season it just doesnt give the same vibe as their first appearances.
0 likesI have a small theory that kinda is based off yours: Maybe, Grogar’s ball and the Alicorn Amulet are connected? Think about it, if you have the magic from Grogar’s ball, he could have easily zapped it into the Alicorn Amulet. If anyone else would like to add on they are allowed to.
1 likeThe story of Sombra in comics : * just exists*
2 likesYoutubers:
Maybe Sombra helped Celestia and Luna and gained alicorn status with them but got jealous that he didn’t have a place. Celestia ruled the day, Luna ruled the night, but what was he left with? Sombra studied dark magic as he tried to find his place as a ruler, but only turned evil as his jealousy and fixation with dark magic transformed him into his current form (but with wings). He fought the Princesses as he declared himself “King of the Shadows”, but lost and was banished. Quickly, he found small kingdoms of crystal ponies that were of all tribes, who fought with each other much like old Equestria. He deemed that the earth ponies would be the easiest to control, since they didn’t have wings or unicorn magic, and became their King. He gave them promises of a great empire ruled by earth ponies and they bowed, given him complete power over their military in return for an empire. Sombra obliterated the opposing crystal kingdoms, and used his shadow magic to control the army, forcing the crystal ponies to allow him to be their one and only King. The two sisters heard of this and went to confront their old friend, now powered with the Elements of Harmony. During a peace dinner, the sisters threatened the Shadow King with the Elements, but he used his mind controlled soldiers to throw them out. Celestia threatened that this action would result in war, but he didn’t care. In preparation for war, King Sombra made himself a crystal made entirely out of dark magic to give him boosts of magical strength to keep fighting, while also controlling his subjects. The war lasted almost a full generation before the final battle where Luna confronted Sombra on the battlefield. Sombra tried to convince Luna to be his Queen, since they had been really close friends in their youth, but she refused. Sombra continued by saying how ponies don’t actually enjoy the night or shadows, and that they are actually terrified of the dark. These ideas stuck in Lunas head, but she still refused and cut off Sombra’s wings and took his amulet. The King felt his power and energy drain from him as his soldiers shook off the mind control. But right as the Princesses banished him, he used the last of his strength to cause the Crystal Empire to vanish with himself.
27 likesThat’s just my headcanon sorry that was so long okay bye :D
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Wow I love the idea of Sombra being the root of Luna's jealousy
1 like@רוני בן עזרא thanks!
0 likesIm so confused. Hasn’t this already been answered? The comics tell the story of sombra being part of the umbra and his fate to become corrupted as seen by radiant hope. Were those comics just not out yet by the time this video was made?
0 likesI loved the story!
0 likesIn the season 3 premier when Shining Armour is leading the mane 6 to the Crystal Empire for the first time he says, "Something keeps trying to get in, we think it's the UNICORN KING who originally cursed the place". He could just be referring to the fact that Sombra is a unicorn and not a crystal pony but it still seems like an odd detail to throw in there.
0 likesFrom what I know from the comics is that sombra was a normal unicorn in the crystal empire friends with cadence. They’re was a myth that if you looked into the crystal heart you’d see your future, so cadence saw hers, but sombra got one of him getting eaten up by darkness (I think, or he got nothing), which made him angry because cadence got a good future, that after that i don’t really remember, what happened so, yep. (Not 100% sure this is correct tho), and I’m also sure sombra travels between worlds where the “shadow ponies” are.
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Sombra's friend wasn't Candence, it was Radiant Hope :P I also saw Comic, he's kind of a shadow pony and in history he said there were others like him under the Crystal empire, it's a shame he was consumed by darkness and became the Shadow King, Radiant was extremely sad when it happened because they were friends from childhood, I always thought he could have changed his destiny if he had tried :,)
0 likesHe said “Iron fist”, but I’m sure he meant “Iron Hoof”. Right? Right...? Riiiiiiiight...?
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No
4 likesYeah in many Sawtooth theories when he mentions ponies , he says persons
13 likesomg wait he might be from the same world as the equestria girls
3 likestake ur leave rn
0 likesMaybe the term comes from dragons, being cruel and having hands
0 likesI don’t even think the my little pony team who created the tv show thought about this. Well done I agree.
0 likesI might have figured out the way Sombra actually took over the Crystal Empire while keeping in line with the theoretical Timeline you've come up with.
0 likesRather than copy-paste it here, I'll just point to your 'Lost Alicorn Princess' Video where I've commented how Sombra, the former Crystal Princess and Princess Cadence all fit into your story...
This still doesn't explain how Trixie can cast spells we've never seen anyone cast before, does Sombra's influence on the amulet also give the wearer the ability to use such spells?
0 likesI honestly do not believe that the crystal kingdom was just sitting there for the taking. For the rest it is a very cool idea
0 likesMe before: why him? Why was he an alicorn an literally no one else
357 likesMe After: Feeling bad for Sombra
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Is that security breach i see
5 likes@Sammy The Umbreon Maybe 🙃
2 likeswhatever. go back to before you.
0 likesI like the theory but i do remember seeing crystal pegasus in the show, so there could also be crystal unicorns in the crystal kindom.
0 likesWhat if the Sombra that Discord "revived" wasn't actually Sombra at all? What if Discord's Sombra was just some creation with the same lust for power as the previous Sombra?
0 likesIf anyone did not know I think Twilight said that they banished him to something icy. So do you think king sombra could be afraid of snow and ice. Besides he has the power to show other ponies the fear that's in them.
1 likeSawtooth with his theory and sombra's very dark past and everything.
1 likeComics: Are we a joke to you?!
I wanted to see WAY more of sombra... I'm kinda mad that they brought him back and then almost immediately threw him away. 😔
72 likesHe had SO much potential to be an awesome villain.
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Same here buddy. He could have been as good as Discord if he’d been given as much screen time & dialogue.
3 likesTrue..
0 likesExactly! I was so happy when they finally brought him back!
3 likesThen so disappointed when it was only for the start to kill him off AGAIN! Literally the only freaking villain that died! TWO TIMES!
what if ' origins " [ Sombra version ]followed by " the siege of the crystal empire " happened after mlp. that makes 100 % sense
3 likesTbh sombra really did have so much potential but like he always had his heart set on the throne and tbh it just made him not think about other things if that makes sense like for example when sunset came back to equestrian and stole twilights crown she bright a fake but he didn’t think about things like that
1 likeI 100% agree
0 likesSide theory: We've only seen a particular set of ponies have their hair show how they feel, Pinkie's hair goes flat when she's upset and not representing her element. The only other ponies to have done that are the crystal ponies, they went flat a dull when Sombra took over!! Could this mean there's some relation between Pinkie and the crystal ponies?? Obviously pinkie works a lot differently than the crystals, hers is way more emotion based, and we know she was raised on a rock farm and not in the empire, but could some kind of crystal roots mixed with her element cause her to react this way?? I'd love to see a in depth theory about this, cuz I don't have the tine or brainpower to get evidence.
0 likesI always thought Sombra ended up selling his soul or something to gain his power. If his soul is missing, it would explain why he has no cutie mark for someone as exceedingly old as he is.
2 likesI just figured out the named “sombra” is just a bit different to the French version which is “sombre” and it means dark in French 😮 I feel stupid
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Sombra is, I believe, also Spanish for "shadow".
0 likesCadence ruled the Crystal Empire PRIOR to King Sombra, hence her cutie mark. The Love Potion Story says the two rulers' kingdoms fell. The Crystal Empire fell to Sombra. Assuming this is true, this theory can't work because of the huge time gap. I do agree with his connection to the Alicorn Amulet, this just isn't it.
0 likesI don't think that Discord brought back Sombra, but rather he made a clone of him that fit Discord's approximate knowledge of Sombra
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That's dark.
3 likes@Lost_Films32 but even in the show Sombra wasn't brought back from the dead
1 likeI always assumed given the comics, that the Sombra brought back was his evil and malice given form like a copy with it's own body kinda like if Nightmare Moon returned with her own body and no host or like how Terrorwing and Mesogog were separated from their hosts in Power Rangers, and the real Sombra was still looking for the Shards of Amore unaware of what was happening.
1 likeI feel like saw tooth is right, but the more I watch mlp season six episode one the more something bothers me. When Spike explained the crystalline in the crystal empire to the mane six, the vaze he was holding had images of crystal ponies with unicorn horns and pegisi wings
0 likesI really like your story, it really matches
0 likesI’m now writing a whole book from this
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Really?Can I offer $100,000,000 for the book? -totally not mr beast alt acc
0 likesI wonder what happened and how his daughter felt when her father turned evil...
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yeah good question, id love to see more of princess platinum. and for celestias sake, some actual character development for sombra
0 likesThey really need to make books or comics of these unsolved characters and stories.
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Yes
2 likesThere already is comic.
10 likesThe Fiendship is magic gives lore for all villains.
Tho only Thorax one is canon since Discord mentions Vorac.
I really agree to what you are saying
0 likesWhat I think happened is sombra was a regular unicorn but when Luna set the moon and celestia risen the sun for the first time and everyone watched he started to have a thirst for power and at the first summer solstice as the moon set and the sun rose he stole the princesses powers and Luna ran but celestia stayed and tried to fend off but was chased into the ever free forest and stumbled into the tree of harmony and the elements glimmered in her eyes and she took them and she was cornered by sombra and trying to fend off the elements gave her power and banished sombra getting her and her sisters magic back and all that's was left was the necklace shaped like sombra to warn about the dark forces it had within it the elements floated back into the tree and celestia was surprised and that's how she found the elements and defeated sombra. Peeps please dont be mad I over think stuff
1 likeI think he went to the alicorn society and destroyed it to gain his magic which is also why luna and her sister couldn't get back to their home. Then in seeking of more power he went to the crystal empire and over threw it but was later killed and if or destroyed
0 likesThere’s something the hits the story in the head
0 likesThe thing that shows this is wrong:sombra is not that alicorn see the horn his head is shaped different its Curved But the alicorn on the necless doesn’t
I think sombra can already control dark magic crystals and there was another himself but with dark magic sombra tried and defeat that dark magic sombra but he failed and that dark magic sombra collided with sombra making sombra filled with dark magic.
0 likesI think that Chrysalis and Sombra is related to each other, they both have dark grey skin color the curved horn and also the green eyes similarities.
1 likeOn season three when Sombra gets closer and closer to the Crsytal Heart an object filled with and fuelled with love of the Crystal ponies his reaction is to lick his lips as if he wanted to feed on it just like how a changeling reacts when taking the love of creatures.
Sombra was a corrupt king of the Crsytal empire and Chrysalis Queen of The Changelings then the two may be related??
I wonder what chaos would happen if sombra excepted the offer to join cozy glow and the others
0 likesSawtooth! You should make post your music on iTunes and Spotify! I 💙 it.
0 likesYa but don’t forget at the 5th season I think where rarity was telling the cutie mark crusaders their favorite legends the unicorns had the same exact horn as somber so could be he was out thrown from mist manes friend and exiled and found the crystal empire then
2 likesImagine the creators of MLP just commented on this: "How did you figure this out."
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@Colgate The Hedgehog (Crystalite) lol
1 likeIf it were to be like that then BOOM canon.
10 likesHasbro: HoW???
2 likes@Dobby The Houself OMG sry but hey do you guys think sawtooth should do mixed Harry Potter and My Little Pony vids then like
1 likeXD i know right
0 likes@Alex Davis YES PLEASE
0 likeslmao😂😂
0 likesOof. Mega oof.
0 likesLOL
0 likesDefo give the fiendship is magic comics a read! Sombras explains that he never had wings to begin with nor does he ever get a cutie mark! still would be awesome if they had dep dives into that more though in the show
0 likesThis theory is absolutly amazing!
1 likeWould you mind if I take Inspiration of this theorie in a fanfiction of me?
Wanna know what he also lost aside his wings?
0 likesHis charm.
The graphic novel I think handles it well. That he isn't a pony even. That the crystal Fair was painful to him. He had one friend in the orphanage, who spent a millennium being tricked by his species. So, sorry, better story line. The Umbrum would have been a great story line.
0 likesThat said, the early story of the graphic novels, with Sombra of alternate world, was a pony. But he did not have wings there either.
But how did I never notice all the crystal ponies have no wings or horns & are different altogether.
Sawtooth: Here is how Sombra came to be
679 likesYouTube: Genshin impact ad
Me: ah yes he came to be from an rpg game
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Yes he came from a Chinese rpg came that’s free.
24 likes@Key Lime Pie pretty sure it’s originally Japanese.
11 likes@Key Lime Pie and what wrong with that plz tell me I sow a lot of people saying that I don’t know why?
4 likes@Meko Cat Genshin impact is a product of mihoyo, a Chinese games company. because the characters are styled in an anime-like fashion people think its a japanese game and refuse to believe that its chinese.
24 likes@Key Lime Pie Looks like you didn't get my question what I meant was I heard people say that they collect data from people like they collect the details of people who play and people are scared because of that because they said if it's a Chinese game then they will collect data and I don't know maybe sell it?
0 likes@Key Lime Pie but I don't know if it's that true or not but genuinely people are scared of that game and I don't know why but I'm not because I like this game and I play it so I don't see anything wrong with it
1 like@Bon-Bon Savour300 its chinese, the logo is just japanese for some reason
2 likes@xara wrong it’s Chinese up there, Japanese is made up of 3 languages. Katakana for foreign words and is just vowels, Hirigana which is syllables for local words. And kanji, that which is from China, basically Japanese is a watered down easier version of Chinese.
1 likehes a fatui harbinger
6 likes@Bon-Bon Savour300 genshin is a chinese game based off of different regions and traditions aswell, mondstadt is based off of wales or sweden I think? or maybe germany, Inazuma is based from Japan and I think that Liyue is based off of China :)
0 likesSO TRUE
0 likes@Key Lime Pie I believe that it’s Chinese though my dream is to go to Japan 👀
2 likes@cherriblanc I agree
2 likes@Bon-Bon Savour300 nah mihoyo is a Chinese buisness thingy
1 likewhile i got...
3 likesAn app about cash-?
What in the world happened-
0 likes@-Ocean_Vibes- tbh idk anymore
0 likesYeah haven't you bought him yet?!? He's soooo OP!
0 likes@random 🐸 •56 years ago you can’t buy characters in genshin.
0 likes@Bon-Bon Savour300 it’s Chinese with Japanese anime style
0 likesDon’t say things that you don’t know
Key Lime Pie well chinese people made it
0 likesI JUST WANTED TO BE FUNNY 😭
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0 likesokay, just clarifying, Sombra got his shadow form because CELESTIA banished him in a shadow form to the ice. IT WAS NOT PART OF HIM ORIGINALY. ->-
1 likeThanks Sombra actually was nice and then he got like he lost his wings like from a potion what affected Calusa‘s wings and then he turned evil
0 likesIf you look at rarity’s clothing representing the princess in the play it resembles Sombra’s outfit from the comic a bunch!
0 likesI’m not sure Sombra was an alicorn. It could be true, but I had a theory that when a creature turns evil they get an “evil form”, like Nightmare Moon, so maybe Sombra started out as a regular unicorn and then turned evil, or that Cozy Glow’s evil form was an alicorn, but this is a great theory
0 likesSombra: "I shall rule with an iron fist!"
179 likesAlso Sombra: Wears iron-looking shoe things
Celestia when she came with Luna to banish him: "You know, I think you took the "iron fist" think too literally..."
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lol
2 likesIt's too, but that was funny so I'll let it slide.
1 like@Carmen Mercedes I fixed it, mainly because the more I looked at it and knew it was wrong the more it made me want to throw a chair.
1 like@Twilight Emily-Afton ok👍🏻
0 likesI think he always was the rightful ruler of the crystal empire. He got jealous of the royal sisters because they were all the new craze to his subjects and got corrupted similar how nightmare moon was born. Sombra is very interested in forcing ponies to obey him so in the past he could have cared very much about them in the past.
0 likesSo I read this theory on Reddit about why all the crystal ponies are earth ponies..
0 likesTo put it simply, each sub-class of pony has it's own traits other than the obvious wings, horns or lack thereof. Unicorns are powerful and elegant, the pegasi are agile and quick, the earth ponies are strong and enduring and the alicorns are (Obviously) a combination of the three.
According to this theory, these facts tie in as to why the crystal ponies are all earth ponies.
As I said before, the earth ponies are strong and enduring, which probably made them the only ponies that could survive King Sombra's rule. And since all the ponies that returned are the same ponies from his original reign, it makes sense. On another note, I don't think the crystal ponies in question are a separate species of pony altogether. As we see in the show, exposure to the Crystal Heart can turn anypony into a crystal pony, since there are several occurrences where non-crystal ponies gain a crystal coat. That explains why there are some crystal ponies later on in the show (And the comics) are pegasi/unicorns, even though the original crystal ponies haven't really had the time to breed considering it's only been a few years since the Empire's return.
Hey can you make more fan fictions like tihs? It would be amazing!
0 likesSmall issue with this theory. The sisters were already Alicorns when they became the princesses
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355 likesand that was the end of king sombra.
well, until a chaos god larking to be a dead goat brought him back to troll his friends
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LARPing*
16 likesstands for live action role-playing.
orrr, I have another theory based off of your video on Cadence. In that video there was a prince who fell in love with Cadence and I think that prince was Sombra. Cadence ruled what was at the time, a very small crystal empire and Celestia broke away the two by banishing Sombra to somewhere, and while cadence grew back into her old roles, Sombra was heartbroken and unable to cope, allowing dark forces to take him over before her returned to take control of the kingdom he once ruled, the crystal empire, and from there, Canterlot. as for the Alicorn amulet I think there is a second story behind this, somewhat similar to what you said in this video, possibly Sombra stealing the magic of the crystal ponies and as they had kids and evolved that lost magic couldn't be passed down so instead the ponies put what little magic they had left into the crystal heart, finding themselves a substitute power in that to keep them alive. I would love to hear what you think about my theory though :)
0 likesSaw tooth waves “ is he an umbrum”
4 likesSombra “ I was born like this also my name was sombra but I was called the thing you called”
I just realised something...
0 likesso obviously we all know there's life beyond the rainbows and ponies? yeah and remember the time Tirek, a mysterious creature from beyond Equestria after several years of imprisonment absorbed all of the princesses magic?...
Yo is no one gonna question how many creatures out there are probably flowing with any kind of amount of alicorn magic? all it did to Tirek was make him stronger and bigger.
How many are really out there with unknown civilian-attempted assassinations but in the form of alicorn power with tainted and secret histories?
Dang, that would be so damn interesting! like a re-watching of the elder-wand-power-mess, but alas MLP is MLP, doubt they'd do something like this. well not that they can do it at all anymore-
The story sounded so real how he described it like
0 likesGenerally I kinda like sombra as a character he was a good villain put of all of them (except discord he was the best)
40 likesI think your right.However I think sombra might steal magic and love from the crystal empire in g2
0 likesWait. This makes sense but..could King Sombra have been a Kirin? Or Nirik I guess. Think about it, his cape and armor perfectly hide his scales, his dark coat and flowing mane, his odd horn. Certainly looks like one? Could he have some motives that would go along with his character story? Also, he has fangs like a Nirik and I should mention Nirik/Kirin are the only creatures in mlp that I have seen to have beard-like manes, just like King Sombra.
0 likesWhat if king sombra mixes in with princess cadence. On another video you show how Cadence could have ben the princess from the book that had the love poison spell in it and Sombra could have ben that prince that gave it to her before becoming king. That would explain cadences cutie mark if she was originally from the crystal empire.
1 likeDid u see the episode where he drowned?? Because that could lead to multiple different outcomes like him maybe dealing with some sort of shadow demon or something leading to him turning evil
1 likeWe'll I don't think that sombra is even a pony because he doesn't have a cutié mark and
434 likesonly pony's can become an alicorn , right?
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Its cannon that they can be blank flank adults
123 likes@Taylor Pennington in the origin comics for sombra it says that he doesn't have a cutie mark because he is a shadow pony or something like that
65 likesIn the episode where Yona is trying to act like a pony for the dance, Sandbar refers Sombra as a pony
32 likes@Dream Kohta maybe sandbar referred to him as a pony because he doesn't know the full story behind sombra? Sombra in a way is a pony but also came from shadow ponys in the comics and he looks like a pony so he can live among the other ponys as like a spy
24 likesWell yeah in the comics(that's if you want to consider it canon) sombra is part of a race called the umbrum, a race that was imprisoned because they attacked the crystal empire. So the umbrum turned sombra into a pony so he can slip through the prison. I think people call him a pony caus he looks like a pony.
29 likesWell...if he can be a unicorn then he can also be an alicorn..right?
7 likes@Taylor Pennington when he was talking about Reforming Cozyglow because of her cutiemark, and he said there hasn't been actually an evil cutiemark, so maybe thats why he doesn't have a cutiemark to reflect his bad guy form. Or maybe when he was the normal unicorn king, he had a cutiemark but his evil form took it away
11 likes@Melon, but that isn’t canon
1 like@Kimo_Neko the comics aren’t cannon
1 likeCatg_irl 678 well his cutie mark could have been taked along with his wings
3 likes@Kimo_Neko its called a Umbram
0 likes@€LOLBIT¥ oh, wait is the season 10 comics cannon though?
2 likes@Random Name I didn't know how to spell the name so I called them shadow ponys 😅
1 like@Kimo_Neko its acctually spelt umbrum.
1 likeI spelt it wrong lol
@€LOLBIT¥ THEN WTF DO THEY EXIST FOR
1 like*ponies
0 likesYeah your right
0 likesOh yea he doesnt have a cutie mark-!
0 likes@Kimo_Neko remeber when Luna let the darkness take over her and sum happened with her cutie mark?
0 likes@zana4u ye
0 likesRemember when the CMCS got their cutie mark so late on? What if he never got one :/
1 likeThank Good side of sombra cutie mark is a blue star and the bad site 3 crystals
0 likesHe could possible be a changeling
0 likesCatg_irl 678
0 likesNo5 all ponies get cutie marks. Also, Sombra mostly wears a cape... soo
Sombra is an umbrum. A shadow pony with appearance of skull pony-like wisp if you read the MLP comic. Sombra become a good person at the end tho.
1 like@Balques ummm... no. Trixie still have her cutie mark, Starlight still have her cutie mark, Cozy still have her cutie mark.
0 likeshes a shadow maybe
0 likes@Arachnid iruma also sapphire shores doesnt have one either
1 likeWhat if he had one but lost it at the same time of losing his wings? We know they’re magic oriented
1 like@Pepper TheRealMVP true i guess
1 likeMay being a ruthless dictator wasn’t his destiny.
0 likesWrong
0 likesI think the cutie mark got stolen when his wing's got stolen
0 likesHe is a crupted pony k?
0 likesFun fact, did you ever noticed that we have never seen before Star Swirl cutie mark? May be he us realated with sombra...
0 likesI think Sombra is from where Mistmane is from and her friend Sable Spirit was corrupted because if you look at her magic, it's very rare for it to be red, like when Trixie got corrupted. (of course, I could be wrong but my theory, ok?) Also, I think that maybe Sombra corrupts Flurry Heart in the future but she overcomes it herself and protects the Crystal Heart and that's why she looks like she has guard armor and also why she has that stained glass window.
0 likesComing back to this video and looking at Sombra made me notice something… Anybody else think he kinda looks like Mistmane? I mean the long curved horn, tall and slender build, kinda wavy mane? Just something I noticed and thought was kinda interesting
0 likesokay so... you said he WAS an alicorn right? Well I came in conclusion that Sombra aka "King Cobalt" WAS the first ever male alicorn that existed... and then after he became a normal unicorn cause he gave up to dark magic, Star Swirl: The Bearded actually did not make another male alicorn cause he might've thought that it's just gonna end up like how Sombra became to be.
0 likesI think that's why there is no male alicorns in the series... (Sorry for my bad grammar, English isn't my first language)
i believe its a little different: king cobalt gained alicorn wings as soon the 3 tribes united and after a long time he found the crystal empire and there he started to get hungry for power and jealous for the new princesses after this he turned into king sombra and starswirl drained his powers with the alicorn amulet
0 likesI think most probably sombra might wear his Cape to hide his wings. Then he'd be the first male alicorn, right? Maybe he studied under Starswirl with Celestia and Luna. So maybe Starswirl made him an alicorn? That's how Celestia and Luna were almost outsmarted.
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I think celestia wasn’t and only luna was and she told celestia what she thought and then they both got overthrown
4 likesI think he was a pony within the crystal empire, he was a lot like sunburst and had a thirst for knowledge. After reading and reading he stumbles upon a corrupt but powerful type of magic, at first he decided to simply read about it but over time he grew obsessed with the power it could offer him and succumbed to the temptation. Since the first spell he casted through this style of magic, he was slowly becoming more and more thirsty for power. Influenced by his new magic he attempts to overthrow the empire. As for his horn and ability to use magic, either it came with the dark magic somehow, or that it’s because he simply wasn’t a crystal pony
0 likesif you read the Journal . Of the Two Sisters, there is a mention of Princess Platinum's father , the unicorn king. I don't remember his name though.
0 likesWho else loves the fact that we got story time?
0 likesSo, we saw somber as horn when he was ultimately killed
0 likesNow I’m just gonna wait till a new pony finds this horn and is corrupted by the magic in it
All that SUPER DRAMATIC story telling, that loud CRUNCH* of the apple gave me shudders shivers ugh
78 likesI think that when Star swirl came to take king Sombra’s magic king Sombra transformed into another form as Luna did and then star swirl and king Sombra had a big battle then star swirl took Sombra’s magic that he stole from the pony’s that then trapped Sombra so he couldn’t transform back into his normal self. If that makes any sense. 😅
0 likessombra is actually spanish for shadow, so i believe he had a name change, whether he chose it or not
0 likesi like the desgin of his wings when he was flying from the stage
0 likesThe comics kind of go against this, since sombra is established as being a born umbrum
0 likesStill waiting on that collab yo XD
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0 likes"...Is [Sombra] even a unicorn? He sure doesn't look like one, his horn is different" and a couple of other things that you actually explained. The horn could also be part of a magical transformation, but some unicorns do have curved horns; look at Mistmane (and the other unicorns in her legend). I like how not all unicorns have the same horn, because look at how many styles of horn there are on bi-horned creatures irl - it wouldn't make any sense for there to be just one type of unicorn (I don't consider the kirin as unicorns, because they have antlers rather than horns).
0 likesHe got it from the crystal heart. Only two minutes in and that's my theory. The magic coming from all 3 pony types.
0 likesIf his power was absorbed in that amulet, why his power was raising as he was getting close to the cristal heart?
0 likesWouldn't "Ruling with an iron hoof" be more accurate in this case. 6:39
1 likethis makes me feel like the “good” pony’s are really just bad and the “villains” just want back what the once had that was taken over my the pony’s of equestria
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It makes me think the comparison between Princess Celestia and Rose Quartz (Steven Universe) Is more accurate than any thought at the time.
7 likesDown in the shadows he turned to the evil king of the crystal heart
0 likesSombra did not have that horn always he is a normal unicorn but darkness pulled him into the water that also explains his shadow power and form
0 likesJust gonna say, this is just a theory people, also it sounds amazingly accurate
0 likes2:44 UMBRUM
2 likesme: LAUGHS FOR LIKE A MILLION YEARS
Well i think "Somba" real name is "Bombra"
What about Radiant Hope, Sombra’s best and only friend. She was a unicorn who turn on Sombra when he over through Princess Amore. They both grow up together in the crystal empire. If Sombra were to become an Alicorn would she have been mention, since she was the cause for Sombra to be over thrown, cause she told Celestia and Luna about his plans
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I love tge comic too but......we have to admited the comic are not canon at all. The final contradicted the serie but anyways i still love the comic. Radiant Hope x Sombra forever!!!
15 likesI think sawtooth just didn't followed the comics which states that Sombra is Umbrum and he had a childhood friend called radiant hope, in the sawtooth's theory Radiant hope did not exists in life of sombra. Still the theory is good with some solid explanation , but I rather stick with comics cause in that sombra is not outright bad, but has a reason why he is why he is. I like how Sombra is fleshed out character .
17 likesActually when she went to the Princesses about him, it was to help him cause he was in pain and needed help due to everything that happened that led to him taking over. I believe she was trying to calm him down or something hoping the Princesses could reason with him but the whole thing escalated to the point of the fight in the show and banishment.
1 likeThis comment gives me Darkstalker and Clearsight vibes for some reason
1 like@GIGAXISBASS I know she wanted to help him, I meant to say that, but I forgot to write it
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0 likesI alway felt like sombra was not that bad, maybe he is the one how caused amnesia to the crystal pony, after all, we only have one version of the story (the one of celestia) after all, he could have destroyde the crystal heart, but he didn't, he just kept it hidden in a safe place from every pony
0 likesI'm probably wrong but I can't take this idea of my hide, thinking sombra as always been bad to the crystal pony is just weird and suspect for me
It kinda looks like his horn might have been broken. So he found a way to replace it. (Which is why it turned red)
0 likesthe way you tell the story makes it more intresting lmao
0 likesIt's kinda sad that he got kicked out of being a ruler cause the sisters were "better" than him other than that he got so jealous that he snapped and wanter power and was to into being a powerful ruler like the sisters and got banished
0 likesI agree with the story but how did he get the amult?
0 likesNotice how in friendship games both Sci twi and sunset became alicorns but not physical (like the princesses) but magical alicorns (like the new gen) because their magic was taken from the friendship of the tribes (human 6)
0 likesI feel bad for sombra😭
0 likesThere’s also a chance he dose have wing but just dosnt use them because he never shows his side
0 likessombra talking to the crystal empire:
413 likeshiipity-hoppity i have come to steal your property
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Sombra is a Karen confirmed
12 likes@Sweetsong Talks a male pony karen xD
6 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 like@Kermit Loves cats Also known as, a “Ken”.
3 likesThat's what Pinkie would do if she took over an empire
2 likesThis is beautiful
1 likeOkay fitz chill
0 likesXD
1 like@Heather Toomey so true
1 likeit's free real estate
0 likessavage twilight: Thanks alot sombra! you just make me lose alllllllll my perfect time with my date...........my....................BBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likes@Sweetsong Talks u mean a clown 😺💅
1 like@•purpxlina• Sombra is both a Karen and a clown
0 likesIm just gonna take everything you say as canon because it makes too much sense
0 likesSo, I love your video and your channel, but I read this book, I think that its the journal of the 2 sisters, and I read that if your theory is correct, King Sombra's old name was King Bullion, not King Cobalt. But dont get me wrong I love your videos and your channel!!!😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
0 likesHonestly, my theory is that Luna and Celestia weren't the only Alicorns, but they had a sister, one who fell in love with Sombra and that tirek came back for revenge, first making his way to the pair and corrupting them both, leaving a little foal behind, Cadence who would return to take the throne that was rightfully hers. But that's what I think makes sense.
0 likesI personally think that he is from mistmanes (the pillar of beauty) place as you can see his horn is curved like mistmanes and if you see that is the cmc+sisters telling tales all of mistmanes people as well had curved horns so i think he is from there
0 likesBut there is one unanswered question:
55 likesWhy did his daughter go in his place to meet with the other pony tribes?
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I think it was just for convinence, so rarity could go be someone large. But, If we are thinking about it in a theory kind of way, he probably wanted to be mysterious, and show his subjects that he ruled,
7 likesIt could be he was busy with other matters in his kingdom that he couldn’t go
5 likes@Noire Thorne oh that sounds logical. My comment was an idiotic comment.
1 like@Kureemy I don’t think it was. I mean there could be an infinite number of reasons. He could be training his daughter to deal with major political matters after he passes or he’s busy with another meeting elsewhere or he’s hoping that by sending his daughter she may be able to expand his kingdom. Your question honestly is a great one that could lead to many different stories based on a simple answer, so I’d say your question is a really good one.
4 likes@Noire Thorne thanks man
1 likeYou should check our my theory. Third from top in communal comments.
0 likesremember when Celestia and Luna put their magic in something? so maybe when Celestia and Luna came maybe when king sombra uses his power Celestia and Luna lock it in an amulet?
0 likessecond theory
so, remember when twilight gets wings from doing good deeds? by saving ponyville etc.
so maybe sombras wings disappeared for doing a bad deed. so, in order to get it he has to use a more powerful object or doing a good deed, so he gets his wings back.
third theory
so, remember when when twilight turns into midnight? she had the same face ghost spirit thing so maybe the bad magic is connected to all bad magic moments
QUESTION :but when sombra did bad deeds his wings didn't disappear then?
ANSWER: so maybe the black magic was like a magic Sheild for alicorns like sombra can keep his wings and magic
but when the Sheild was weak when he took over the kingdom, he lost his wings
QUESTION: but cozy glow had wings when she had grogards bell dident the sheild work then
answer: well the sheild was weak because it was inside and no one was attacking
im confused on alicorns.. when Celectia and Luna lost there magic they stayed alicorns.. but when Cozy Glow lost her magic she was a pegasus again so how does that work?
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Actually- that's true we need answers
0 likesWait i have a question.......... you know how when starlight went back into time and set the future to a war with King sambra? How did it happen?
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That is an parallel universe where the Mane 6 didn't become friends. (so basically a canonical what if story)
0 likesWell Sombra returned,
no Mane 6 there to stop him his time, so Cadance and Shining Armor failed,
Celestia probably went there and tried to stop him, failed for some reason (I imagine that there are unlimited parallel universes so even though in most universes Sombra is defeated, there is always this small percentage where it escalates),
Sombra enslaved the crystal ponys,
and then the war begun.
Though I imagine the crystal empire with it's disadvantage in position and population and lack of modern industry and war machinery to last like 2 years maximum against a fully utilized Equestria XD
If he wanted alicorn power why did he pick a empire that only had earth pony power.I know that he loved crystals but still.😉
0 likesif this is true I feel really sorry for his daughter imagine seeing your own father change like this
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ikr that will be soo sad
3 likesas a wolf /unicorn hybrid myself this makes 100% sense
0 likesWhat if he was Luna and celestia’s father? My theory: when their mother and father died, it was because of evil creatures attacking them. Their mother died because she did not so come to the evil magic, and their father didn’t want to die as well. He decided to embrace darkness and the dark magic stripped him of his alicorn magic, replacing it with dark magic. The darkness took more control over him and he became greedy for power, forgetting his past.
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Not possible, as Sombra's reign of terror was long after Discord's defeat, which would be several hundred years.
0 likesi honestly thought that he was born a happy unicorn and was unicorn king but a dark magic took over him as a adult corrupting him and corrupting his physical body and magic turning him into a evil king
0 likeshappy exactly one year anniversary to this video!!
1 likeAccording to the fiendship is magic comics, spoiler alert he grew up in the crystal empire. Every year he and his friend looked forward to attending the crystal fair, but every year he grew too ill to attend. The queen told him it was because he was born from shadows (or something like that, it's been awhile since I've read the comic) and he was designed to try to take over. She allowed him to stay because she believed one could change their destiny and because the crystal empire was his home. He never did, and obviously
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yeah, he was a shadow pony.
17 likesU
1 likeWell those comics was never explicitly stated as canon. Moreover, they can be disproven, like how the episode "Shadow Play" disproven the Dazzling's backstory in the comics.
47 likes@The 13th Googler They're considered sub-canon. Basically, if there isn't anything in the mane show that contradicts the comics, they're considered canon.
24 likesactually, it goes like this.
34 likesThe reason why sombra (whos name isn't actually sombra, people called him that because they didnt like him) became evil was because that he was once normal, but could never find his cutie mark. He was friends with someone else who couldnt, radiant hope. They became great friends. Once when they were visiting princess amore, they looked into the crystal heart. The crystal heart deems your future and destiny, radiant hope looked in and was a princess, and sombra looked in, he saw who he was today. Amore asked him what he saw, and he said: " Nothing, only shadows." One day, he came to see that radiant had a cutie mark, a golden sword with two white snakes wrapped around it. She had also earned an invite at celestias school. Knowing that radiants future had come true, he knew that his would too. He ran back to princess amore's castle, with her waiting there. She knew what had happened and what he saw. She said: You can still change your future. He didn't believe her though, and turned her into stone with evil magic and shattered her pieces across all equestria.
@Mushrooms is princess amore the queen of the changelings? (been awhile since I watched mlp so sorry for that lol)
0 likes@ZenitsuKun no, she was the princess of the crystal heart. Chrysalis is the princess of the changelings. amore means love in a different language, and cadence is the princess of love. i think cadence is amore's daughter.
12 likes( and dont worry, this wasnt in the show. it was in a graphic novel. im pretty sure the comics are canon
@Mushrooms ohh thank you, I saw a video from this channel that Chrysalis was princess amore if she didn't go through a villain path haha (it might be a theory)
3 likes@ZenitsuKun oh ok. ^^
2 likes@Mushrooms yup!
0 likesHold on
1 likeWhere can you find the comics
I need to get it
I’m already starting the equestrian girls book
@Silly Monkey i have no clue, but i seen it somewhere. i think it was in fiendship is magic? idk
2 likes@Silly Monkey Amazon?
0 likesI forgot about that comic.
0 likes@Silly Monkey I think you can get they comic if you have comiXology.
0 likes@Silly Monkey P.S Love the name!
0 likesAnd obiusely he took over got turned into shadow trued again and he was bannished until the soon to come season nine
1 like@Corwin Rie Sealthorne this is true. I talked to the writer.
0 likesWoah
0 likesThe comics aren’t really cannon I don’t think...
0 likeswell...those are questionable resources
0 likes@Kendra Jackson, cannon to the show I mean
0 likesThe comics aren't canon.
0 likes@Noah Maldonado actually , as sawtooth waves said in another video, cutie marks aren't meant for evil. There's always a good meaning for them , even if they belong to a villian.
0 likeswas sombra banished with magic or was he just forbidden to come back to equestria. Because in season 9 episode 2 he came back to equestria to conquer
0 likeswait if sombra is still alive why did we never see his daughter in the flesh?
0 likesWell, I'm not very certain about this theory. At season 8, Star Swirl said " I simply cannot believe how tall you have gotten", that means ponies grow over time. But since if your theory is correct, Sombra must be the same height or taller than Celestia and Luna. But he's not even bigger or taller than Luna. But I'm not saying your theory is wrong. I just have a question: if Sombra was banished to the frozen north, does it mean that he does not grow? If that's an yes, don't mind anything I said.
0 likesHe might loss his wings ever 1st fail of war. And then made him metal or amor pony or magic storm. Or could be diff like he no wings so he cover it up and made story about his wings. But who won’t love a fresh pretty new wings. Then not wings he learn his famous flying dash spell or turn into darkness. And then the rest is history for him. Could been something form discord too, like he got mad and thought he could kill pony easy but didn’t work. Which would not make sense. Just when he was still evil he say pony’s like the good changing aw. So both could not see a way to join them. Until spike help changing and flutter shy with discord.
0 likesFun Fact: It has been confirmed that Princess Platinum's father was actually a unicorn called King Bullion.
0 likesSombra looks handsome when he has wings 😍🤩
0 likesThat an AMAZING theory i think you might be right
2 likesI felt so sad when he lost his wings 😭
0 likesI think that sombra wasn't a unicorn I think he was a pegasi I think it's twilight sparkle he feared maybe it was twilight sparkle maybe when she was young she used her magic to get he's wings and he became a unicorn
Also as shown in The Times are Changeling, we have Winged Crystal Ponies, and then there is the armor Fluttershy and RD wore while jousting, which was designed for pegasus
8 likesThis makes so much sense for my NextGen series omfg,,,
1 likeWhile I do like the fan theory of who he is, it seems like this is more so a fan fiction rather than the actual truth. I might be more welcoming of the theory if there was some more actual proof of some of these "facts" in the actual series. But for something based off of ideas, it's interesting to see what others think.
0 likesIt seems like sombra is more likely a pony from Mistmane's town, which would explain the curved horn.
0 likesi headcanon sombra as a kirin or maybe a kirin/unicorn hybird, he has a lot of kirin(or nirik) traits
0 likesI have a question: Where did the crystal empire even come from and how did the crystal ponies come to be?
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Oh!!! That is a good one
0 likesSome one should explain this!! WE NEED ANSWERS!!
0 likesPlease sawtooth
0 likesI think I know I think some unicorn a spell magic on a pony and it was thought that it failed but after the pony give birth then the baby had beautiful skin by general mutationthe clear skin was so like that over thousands of years it became a civilization of its own called crystal ponies and they kind of shared magic with crystals
3 likes@6345 Sharanya Shejkar That's a good idea, but i think we may need to know some more details
0 likesI've always thought that's where equestria started until it slowly started to expand
0 likes@Night Bee OK , as you like
2 likesOnce upon a time a pony safes the life of one of the five sorcerers responsible for raising the sun he thought to give a gift to that mare , used a spell but nothing happened before they could ask him he disappeared. Her earth pony family was also in confusion . But she gave birth to her young daughter, she was very beautiful. With crystal clear shimmering skin. We wanted to share the love and light with her but could not expand magic. They sended the letter to good king sombra for help. He without being noticed went to the Arctic north where the used animal skin as clothes he saw the baby and because of his want of power he agreed because he thought it could make another species and he can expand his kingdom. Used crystal and after the they used it is also became shiny and more connected to nature they became wiser and became a tribe called the crystal ponies. And after king sombra was on his own he saw that the crystal ponies made their own separate kingdom sombra declared himself the king but they refused so he forced them but he was banished . Ok this tour is not very clear but kind of makes sense. And I think after the crystal empire disappeared the population still kept growing or something I think you should ask somebody to add something.
@6345 Sharanya Shejkar Wow... Just wow!
0 likesSawtooth, please consider this!
@Night Bee thanks
0 likesI think this all is kinda eight honestly
0 likes@zana4u I actually thought the opposite, but your idea might also be correct.
0 likes@Night Bee ohhh I wanna know what your idea was?
0 likes@zana4u I thought the crystal empire was formed when a group or tribe of ponies were affected by some spell or something, and they decided to move away from the other ponies so they moved to the north and made their own empire called the crystal empire because they looked like crystals and had a strong magical connection to crystals.
0 likesWell we actually have no evidence. Some say that the crystal heart was equestria’s original town before it expanded. Some say it was its own nation with its own piny tribe. Honestly we don’t know. Gen 5 writers we need more explanation.
1 liketheres a animation i remember that has its own version of how sombra became corrupted
0 likes6:53 yup that's what I expected Star swirl ofcourse most powerful wizard
1 likeThat makes so much sense nice job 👍
0 likesIt's honestly not a bad story/theory. but there is one thing to take into consideration when it comes to the gen 4 MLP storyline. The comics. The comics do go over a lot of the ponies's backstory. some of which we would never expect. Sombra's story is definitely an interesting one, even in the alternate reality where he was a king. I will not reveal too much information because his past is very interesting to read up on. but he is indeed an Umbrum. And his reasoning for taking over the crystal empire will surprise you. Looking at the art you have, that is how his king form in the alternate reality comics look. keep up the good work on your theories.
0 likesI'VE BEEN COMMENTING THIS FOR A WHILE-Make a video on Cozy's upbringing!!!!
55 likesLIKE SO SAWTOOTH CAN SEE.
Sombra has to be a good pony
0 likesYou are a underrated legend
0 likesWait so that means heart warming eve episode happened thousands and thousands of years ago?
1 likeWhen i first saw sombra, the first thing i thought was: yo this guy looks a bit like ganon/gannon! Im gonna call him that!
0 likesIt was will explained very entertainingi said and the storywas so fittingso i agree with your story
0 likesReal grogar: Welcome back king of shadows. Sombra: Its king of equestria!
0 likesOne MLP:FIM comic says that Sombra was an umbrum at birth, but he was turned into a regular pony so that he would take over Equestria and free his kind.
1 likebut wait, when Tireck comes to steal ponies magic, the princesses gave their magic to Twilight, and they stayed unicorns so i think that’s mean Celestia, Luna and Cadence are bone unicorn, because when he stole an unicorn’s magic, they kept their horns
0 likesIdk if I'm imaging this but wasn't king Cobalt mentioned in one of the episodes and part of his past?
0 likesBut his horn didn’t get destroyed.
0 likesWhat if the magic was still in the horn
King Sobra will never die. Hes made of pure shadows, but its all i got of evedince
0 likesOne problem the summer su celebration is specifically said to have originally been a celebration of nightmare moon’s banishment then a celebration of luna’s return
0 likes"Until a chaos God larping as a goat brought him back from the dead so he could troll his friends"
31 likesYou have no idea how much this made me laugh!
L. A. R. P live action role play
Edit: this is how I will refer to this from now on
Love the story it was the best
0 likesi just watched you cadence video. we can see his horn doesn’t look normal. maybe he’s the prince in the story. i mean, it would make sense because when cadence destroyed the fake crystal heart, a crystal pony recognized her. the empire could be the one that was destroyed
0 likesSombra always reminded me of Dracula.
0 likesDid no one notice the red eyes
0 likesThe reason he knows the story is cause somberas magic is telling him what happened
That’s why his eyes are red
"We don't have any evidence that a race of shadow creatures exist"
162 likesThe comics: Excuse me?
(In the comics he's an Umbra, a shadow pony basically).
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The comics are asome but their have some incongruents with the serie. That is why many didn t count comics like canon sources. Anyways I love reading it.
31 likesI can get that, but that's still proof there that there is a race of shadow creatures.
10 likesI think Sawtooth is strictly going by show canon in this case since the comics and show do collide sometimes in terms of canon. We may as well consider the comics an alternate universe at this point.
19 likes@Tamayako He's gone by the comics before, but I can get that.
3 likes@Tamayako if im not mistaken the comics are suplimentery canon, meaning anything not directly contradicted by the show is fair game
5 likes@Joey Aderman Fair enough, that makes sense heh
0 likesUm.but if sombra is a different type of pony shouldnt there be more like him
1 like@Andy Shattuck They tend to stay strictly in their crystal form and live farther away from what I remember, like super deep in the snowy area.
1 like@Andy Shattuck I think there were more Umbrum, but they were sealed beneath the Crystal Empire. If I remember right, there's actually an arc in the comics where Sombra tries to free the sealed Umbrum
0 likes@Andy Shattuck the comic that shows that shows a whole race of em, of which hes the king
0 likesPersonally, Sawtooth theory make much more sense. I prefer his theories than even the comic book cause i feel it was weird that he easily embrace the Umbra's fate just by meeting his so-called Umbras mother and leave Radiant Hope without even a second thought. It also leave a room about who is his father and how on earth he have a sex a with the Umbras which supposedly sealed under the Crystal Empire and why it was sealed under the Crystal Empire ? Shouldn't they move or sealed it on a different place cause it was to dangerous ? It also created a whole different question who is the Umbras and where did they came from. Beside, the Umbras theories relies heavily on the Stygian and Pony of Shadow and King Sombra could turn to shadow. There were no evidence of it's existence throughout the canon material. Even the comic that produced the comic book was indenpendence from Hasbro and the comic was created as Hasbro decided to keep his origin a mysterious. There also leave a question on how King Sombra turn Princess Amore to Black Crystal Statue and break him and if thatw as Umburm magic, then why he didn't use against Spike. There also this " the umbrum army underground and scatters the fragments of Amore's statue across the world so she cannot be restored in time to stop him" which the comic didn't deal. Finaly, in the FIENDship is Magic Issue 1, it was very clear that Twillight and Cadance read King Sombra's diary but it was started with how he was found and named and ended with Sombra knowing his defeat by Celestia and Luna is imminent, he enacts a terrible curse, and how Radiant Hope is forced to watch as her home vanishes. It was based on a book they found underneath of the Crystal Palace. So, who write the diary and what is the fate of Radiant Hope ? What does that red crystal have to do with the Umbrum? What really happened between the Crystal Ponies and the Shadow Ponies? In fact in the continuation of the comic Friendship is Magic Issue 37# Radiant Hope leave Equestria and go into the world of Umbrum and learn everything about them and return to invade Equestria and Crystal Empire, she also revived back Sombra and it end with how Twillight defeat her and she and Sombra became a good and they redemmed themselve by traveling the world to find the fragment of Princess Amore that scattered across the world and this is clearly doesn't work with the final season. Hasbro clearly ignored the comic story line. Of course there are those who proposed a theories to reconciled the canon storyline with the comic.
2 likesI personally considered the comic book as an alternative story line and different dimension since it has good character and yes it did gave Sombra a sympathetic background for us and gave him more chracterization without undermining his personality in the MLP. Beside didn't both in the comic and cannon show, there exist many mirror that lead to different dimension. I considered the comic as cannon, just on a different dimension similar to how the comic has a story where Twilight ended on a dimension where Sombra was a good ruler and sacrificed himself for the sake of the Alicorn sister that in turn were evil and started absorbing the evil on the Alicorn sister.
1 like@Mohd Ghazali He probably easily embraced it because it had been pushed on him for so long that you couldn't change what the Crystal Heart shows you is going to happen, but I understand the plot holes and other issues it brings in.
0 likesUmbrum
0 likes@AmDrawer Why does the spelling matter?
0 likesIdk
0 likes@NootNoot im sowy
0 likes@AmDrawer It's fine lol
0 likesI thought you were gonna hate me tnx tho ... It means a lot🙃🤗
0 likesWhy is this even a question? Comic Sombra finished his story on a happy note, being redeemed. He came back to life and stopped being evil. Then in the show, he comes back to life as a straight up villain even though he's already alive and good? If you need someone to explain to you how that's impossible, you have brain issues. Both Sombras cannot be the same character. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. Once you get that obvious fact, it makes it clear then, that you can't use facts about 1 Sombra as proof for things about the other. They are entirely separate, except for a single moment they both had. But they are not the same characters at all. AT ALL.
0 likesThe comics are not canon. Sombra is the proof of this. There are two Sombras. I am confused how people who know about comic Sombra are even talking about this like they don't realise that. The only explanation? Utter stupidity... Or, there was a really big timeframe between when you read the comic and saw the episode bringing him back that you just never looked at both moments side by side to see the problem. I guess.
@Tails Clock You straight up, didn't need to be rude. Thanks for insulting me a bunch for no reason. I wasn't "Asking a question", I was just pointing something out and being a bit funny. I'm not stupid, and you need to tone it down and relax. Taking this crap too seriously and just being rude ruins the fun for everyone. Have a decent day and try to be nicer in the future towards others.
1 likehe alredy talked about the comics um...
0 likes" comics are not cannon" that is true for some, but not all.
0 likes@EG and AJ Yeh, I understand that. Like I said prior, it was just a joke lol.
0 likes@NootNoot Okay you do have point about that but like you said, that story have many plot hole and it's continuation go against what the final season established or it will be more correct to say that Hasbro go against what the comic had established and ignored it.
0 likesHe used pictures of sombra from the comics lol
0 likes@damp sock He said that in the video. First Sombra got kicked out of Equestria for trying to usurp the princesses, then he found the Crystal Empire and enslaved the Crystal Ponies, to which the princesses responded by using the Elements to banish him again.
0 likes@I like rice pudding most comics are said to be canon tho along with the journal of the two sisters. that is why this theory cannot be true.
1 like@Mohd Ghazali Yeah! That is why i dont count the comics canon.
0 likes@Joey Aderman but they didn't directly contradict the show in this, so therefore the comics literally have the answers to the entire premise of these Sombra videos. In the comic that goes into some of the mane villains backstories, it literally has all the relevnt info on Sombra. And since the show itself hardly goes into his backstory, there's nothing for that comic to ctradict, therefore by your comment, the comic story is canon.
0 likes@NootNoot i agree, tho it's been a while since i read his backstory in the comic, which i consider canon cuz there's no good reason not to, i do remember there being a few questions i had at the time.
0 likesBut yes, as to why he gave into the darkness so easily, and left the one pony who truly cared for him, well, like that crystal thing said, it was basically his destiny. The evil literally flowed through his veins, there was no way he could resist it. And we who read the comics know that he was in tremendous pain near the end of his "normal" life, because he was being called to become what he was meant to be.
i like Sawtooth's theories in other aspects i know nothing of, but this one kinda irked me cuz i see nothing wrong with the canon we're given through the comics. I know there are people who only consider either a show canon OR comics canon for other franchises, so i mean you do you, but unless there's some major like story breaking contradictions that one poses to the other, i have no reason to believe that comic isn't canon. :/
@Tails Clockhm, something tells me here that it's not the fans of the comics that are the stupid ones.
0 likesso when i say they don't contradict the show, i meant that his backstory doesn't *as far as i'm aware*. i easily could be missing something as i haven't read every single comic out there. So maybe the rest of Sombras comic story contradicts something in show im not aware of, but as far as im aware, his background doesn't. To me, making a totally new one like this video is simply a fanfiction. which is also fine, as those have proven time and time again to be pretty fricken entertaining. sometimes.
0 likes@Lightning Dash Productions thats what i was saying.
1 like@Joey Aderman ah i think i misinterpreted your comment then. but i made my point either way so it works out XD
0 likes@Lightning Dash Productions well whatever works!
0 likesDo you know absorbed some of his jealousy that just came to my mind Celestia was on the opposite side of him so Luna was the only one that absorbed his jealousy making her one day become jealous and turn nightmare moon
0 likesI was just rewatching season 3 mlp when the crystal empire first appeared and when twilight and her friends met up with shining armor he told them "something keeps trying to get in, we think its the UNICORN KING who originally cursed the place" so that can be true
0 likesPart of me thinks he made and used the amulet to rule the crystal empire until it was taken from him by the 2 sisters
0 likesMe: Sawtooth listen! Nobody can control the alicorn amulet! It’s too powerful!
0 likesSawtooth: Maybe you can’t, but I aLsO cAn’T.
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That’s me on a Friday night when I can’t make anything up ;-;
1 likeI've thought that princess platinum was the daughter of sombra for years. I kinda forgot it was my headcanon.
30 likesWhere were you when we needed backstory for sombra in the actual show? XD
0 likesWait, wasn't there a comic that went over his origins & his girlfriend (I'm assuming) leading him to a redemption of some kind? Also, there was a Unicorn princess for the Crystal Empire when Sombra was still a colt, I think she ended up being Cadence's some odd great grandmother over the years since her death, his defeat by the Sisters, & the re-emergence of the Crystal Empire. Hm. I guess she had a baby & they were taken out of the empire before everything disappeared?
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Comics are not canon to the show.
0 likesThat's nice and all, even though he never did have wings.
0 likesThat was amazing!!!🤯🤭
0 likesHow do you think of these things🧐🤔
i literally dont even understand how people can be this creative and imaginative
8 likesOr was it because Somdra has his shadow form still and only his physical form got destroyed. 😌
0 likessawtooth: sombra's teeth are different
1 likeme:YOUR TEATH ARE DIFFERENT
Very nice job. If only the show hadn't done him dirty like they did.
0 likesOff topic, I had an argument with my cat, asking if she's a a changeling/aswang because she absorbs love an power
0 likes/our braincells.
(Aswang - a Filipino monster and such.)
Honestly I feel Sombra could be some sort of royal changeling. The Changelings always need a Queen so if a male royal Changeling was born there would be no use for him. Also Sombra was obsessed with the Crystal Heart, which stored love and cheer from the crystal ponies, much like how Changelings feed off of love. To explain his more pony like appearance you should look to Chrysalis. She looks quite different to her subjects, much more like a pony, like with her eyes and horn shape! I think for a royal Changeling to be born, they might need to be half earth pony/unicorn/Pegasus. Sombra and Chrysalis also have many physical similarities, like their longer, curvier horns, the fact they are much taller than normal ponies/changelings and their weirdly shaped ears. Also Sombra’s horn looks quite similar to Changeling horns, don’t you think? Perhaps his cape hides his holes or perhaps changeling like wings? Perhaps he was more ponylike and became an alicorn then had it taken away? Just a theory of mine that I at least think has merit. (Also this took a while to type out so if people could recognise this that would be great thanks)
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Dude no she doesn’t look like a pony!
0 likes@Headstrong Hawkfrost Chill, it’s just my opinion. She just seems to have more pony traits, like her eyes and stuff
0 likes@♡︎Cinnamon♡︎ no she doesn’t!
0 likes@Headstrong Hawkfrost Dude chill, I’m not saying she looks like a pony, I’m saying she looks slightly more pony-like than her subjects do
0 likesI have a question? There is the song that is called my dear Luna and it has king summer I was little and Luna has a little, so I think you were right about what he looked like when he was little.
0 likesare we gonna ignore the fact the one of the crystal ponies looked exacly like apple bloom!?
0 likesWe should have a theory about the fact that Sombra doesn't have a cutiemark!
0 likesWait, wasn't the summer sun celebration made when Celestia defeated Nightmare moon?
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That doesn’t mean it had to be that summer sun celebration
0 likesYes
0 likesIf you have to absorb magic from all three tribes to become an alicorn then what about the cutie-mark crusaders?
0 likeswhen i was young i got a comic about twilight went to the crystal empire. In that comic also mentioned about King sombra's past and Princess Mi amora ( ruler of the Crystal empire)
0 likesI'm thinking that Sombra when he was a little foal he became a orphan then he was adopted by a couple and found filly who was alone they become friends as you know that the old ruler of crystal empire is princess Amore she gave her place to Sombra and then he knows that the filly was the niece of Amore so he was happy but when he knew that the filly don't like Sombra he became angry and became a shadow and banished by the two royal sisters.
0 likesi think he was born as an evil allicorn when his pearents died he found some place to rule
0 likesWhat if he was the prince of unicorns. His sister was chosen to be greater than him and to become Queen. He was jealous and hungry for the power so whenever the sisters came along and became alicorns. So he use the same magic through a magic Crystal. The alicorn amulet, but didn't give him wing's. So on so fourth.
12 likesI love how he used "nightmare night"
0 likesThe joke about apple was priceless
0 likesMaybe…
0 likesUnicorns can get magic from love right? And doing something special?
Could there be bad unicorns that gift the bad the power of alicorn?
We don’t know about celestias mother and father and others in the family so…?
I know I could be wrong but this must be that King Sombra is related to Celestial and Luna
bro ur storyline is epic. i love ur channel so much dude
0 likes“How king sombra came to be”
578 likesbeauty ad comes on
so it’s all makeup?
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Woah I never get adds in the middle of a video though
7 likesalways has been.
18 likesAlways has been oh ok
3 likesI’m Dying XD
5 likesI ALWAYS get adds
3 likesalways has been
2 likesI never knew that :D
3 likesim tired and didnt see the "beauty ad comes on" and thought "im sorry what am i about to watch?"
5 likesLol
1 likeLol I got a crunch bar ad
1 likeI got a yogurt ad, so he became yogurt lol
1 likeLol
2 likesHahahaha XD
2 likesme when i was lisening
1 likehow king sombra came to be
a ad of a baby bottle and a mom
me:wait what
@Cavier uy he became baby
1 like@Loser non official and then after that i got a ad of a knight fighting a dragon so king sombra was a baby that turn into a dragon
2 likes@Cavier uy or a baby knight that fight dragons lol
1 like😂🤣😂🥲😂🤣😂🤣
1 likemine: diaper ad comes on
1 likebahahahahaha
1 likeLOL XD
2 likesFor me it was apple juice ad lol
1 likeIt’s all plastic surgery
1 likeUgh anyone else at the end of 2021 just wishing more mlp seasons came out
0 likesThis theory has a problem why didnt trixie get wings when she had the amulet?
0 likesYou're psychic because you guessed ahead of time about how ponies can absorb love and become alicorns the way Sunny Starscout did.
1 likeThat movie wasn't even around when you made this theory.
But you said iron fist instead of iron hoof
About the whole fact that when ponies lose their magic They don't lose their innate features what if they do after a certain period of time like if it's been gone for a long long time We only see Temporary magic stealing When tyric took over could be after a while they start to lose their features
0 likesWait till the theory ' The crystal heart is from the tree of harmony ' or ' The crystal heart is the heart of the first ruler of the crystal empire '
0 likesThey should make a serie,but like in the style of the legends (like The Book in the first episode) Retracing their villain story
0 likes3:05 There ARE, in a cómic from IDW we finally know about King Sombra's past, he is a shadow pony. https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/My-Little-Pony-Fiendship-is-Magic
0 likesThe theory is good but the cómic changes it all
i think theres a different story for King Sombra i think he turned evil because of his daughter death did anyone think of a story like that
0 likesI LOVE THIS THEORY, but at the same time; I have to wonder-
42 likes1. What happened to the other leaders? Where did their lives go from there?
2. Wasn't the first Summer Sun Celebration a celebration of Nightmare Moon's banishment??
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DaniDoodles03 Pluto loves you
0 likes(Fun fact) the moon is moving 3.2cm away from earth
0 likesYou don't need to wonder that
0 likesYou need to wonder about ASTRONOMY
0 likesBut according to the MLP village game he was kinda like a traveling peasant with his best friend who was the only I e who believed in him according to the description. It was called the wagon of hope or something like
0 likesSawtooth Waves:Shows all the alicorns including the temporary one
0 likesMe:wait so cadence isn’t one?
why do I feel bad for king sombra now-
0 likesThe part about king sombra coming out during the summer sun celebration wouldn’t make sense seeing as it was created to commemorate the defeat of nightmare moon
1 likeWait so he somehow finds a way back because the empire is part of equestria and he was banned from that place
0 likesThis is a valid theory and all but-
0 likesLooks at the comic origin story of Sombra with an elaborate explanation of such as I am bored and in need to write.
He was brought into the orphanage as he was just pacing around. The children made fun of him and shit as he was never a crystal pony. But he bonded with a filly there named Raident Hope. She understood him, knew what he was going through. The crystal heart always caused him to be sick, every year, he laid in bed, a mess, with his best friend by his side each time. Later, the desire to see the heart overtook him, he sprouted into dark magic, with Hope blasting him with her magic to the point she gained a cutie mark of a caduceus; which to sum it up, means healing. So, she brought him back. Later, the Princesses invited Hope to study with them as she has such powerful medical/healing magic, which in Sombra's words, "She had the potential to become a princess." So, he bolted off into the snow, finding a magic crystal that resembles the alicorn amulets color; this object also claims to be his mother. She blasts him with devilish power. He steals the crystal heart, and at the time, Princess Amore is the ruler of the Crystal Empire. Amore does try to reason with him, however, that does not work. He just blasts her and turns her into stone. Radiant Hope saw the whole thing, to which, she sobbed and also tried to talk sense into Sombra, although, his approach was different to Hope than it was with the princess, as Sombra basically a proposal to Raident without the ring, "Now that I've found my power and you're on your way to becoming a princess. I will bring them under my hoof. I will find my people. And you can rule by my side." She runs off, and he enslaves the empire but lets her go.
In the Return of King Sombra, he comes back, and Hope finds him. She is the only one who he lets touch him in any way, shape, and form, as well as talk with him without chains like every other pony has with Sombra. Now, after, he begins to take over with the main six as well as the princesses coming to demolish his ass, only to get thrown into cages. After taking control of the empire with the help of Crystalise as well, Sombra goes to the castle. Cadence is hiding around and runs into Hope. And she tells her the full backstory of the crystals and what Sombra's mission is all about. They go on a Lewis and Clark type expedition, finding out everything about the castle. They accidentally run into Sombra along with the gucci gang known as the main six. Twilight goes ballshit insane and tries to blast Sombra, with Hope jumping in front of him. She gets knocked out and Sombra turns into an insane madlad once he realizes they hurt her. Releasing all the 'monsters' he had trapped behind a stone door. Capturing the main six, as well as the royals. After, he checks up on Hope, she gets pissed at him for wanting to rule the world, and how she does not wish to be his empress. Giving him a lecture on how she gave up everything to be there for him, how she gave up her princess status to find him once he went missing. Skip a bunch of drama between the fighting couple, we move on to all of motherfuckin' poneville taking over, so they place the crystal heart back in its place, free Sombra of his dark magic along with the help Hope who was the one who saved him, as beliving in him is what counted as such. And he becomes a normal unicorn king. Eventually, Hope and Sombra went off together to live their happily ever after.
So in conclusion my lads. Sombra was never an alicorn, the princesses were already grown once he was a teenager/young adult. He and his girlfriend could've had princess platinum if you wanted to make an AU, as they were a couple in the comics, however, it wouldn't work for the timeline. The video is radical, but the comics give you the real story. I would suggest checking them out, they are very compelling, in fact.
Wouldn't it be impossible , the summer sun celebration started after Luna was banished to the moon .
1 likeWhy are dark colored creatures always the enemy. Chrysalis, Tirek, Sombra, Tempest and even Changlings who turn light after their reforming. The only exception being cozy glow. This is so annoying how they portray dark as evil and good as light
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Alot of people does do this, but your right it's pretty annoying. Considering the fact that most people wear grey/black colors.
0 likesIn my Theory the main reason Sombra traded his wings
57 likesIt's because he want to get a better ones
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Maybe twilights wings is sombra's missing ones?
2 likes@VarAnova Twilight earned hers
4 likesBut what if the earned ones came from the amulet that had been sealed? I would imagine the magic coming from the amulet towards twilight forming her wings.
2 likesMe
0 likesI wonder if it's possible to unseal that amulet, and reform it into good magic instead of the original evil one. If that would work, maybe it would be a way for Sombra to be reformed
0 likes@VarAnova no Twi’s came from the elements, not the amulet. That was made clear
0 likes@VarAnova Of course they could, it’s just a matter of how. Star Swirl couldn’t but he was just one pony. And I think since the alicorn magic was never his to begin with they could free the magic but not King Sombra. Plus he would just turn evil again if he was craving power
0 likesYes twilit earned hers
1 likeNo one ever talks about reforming sombra >:(
1 likeI see
0 likesIf your evil enough you can live forever
Wait, you know that the summer sun celebration came after luna was banished to the moon and sombra was banished long ago
0 likesActually a pony gets allicorn magic one they’ve reached a goal they accomplished for their future, and one they’ve accomplished it they get they wings (or horn not sure if a unicorn can only turn into an alicorn )
0 likesby the way, sawtooth have you figured out a way to reverse the effects of... y'know
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I'm perfectly fine
15 likes@Sawtooth Waves yeah... right...
6 likes@Sawtooth Waves everything's fine
5 likesI read somewhere that the princesses father, leader of the unicorn tribes, was King Bullion but idk if that's canon
0 likesI can imagine celestia singing come live with us in the palace to twilight
0 likes‘Well, until a chaos god pretended to be a dead goat and brought him back to troll his friends.’
0 likesWait... if a UNICORN can just become an alicorn by absorbing magic then WTF could DISCORD have done?! When he was a “villain” he was really going easy on the mane 6
0 likesadding up from your story I think Sombra actually brought the tribes together and became an Alcorn by being crowned by the people and then later became evil after losing true love
8 likesWait...so how old is tall, dark and grim then. If he was banished by freaking starswirl and staged a coup against the sisters when they were young. Also what was stopping him from going alicorn again after starswirl went to limbo.
0 likesNow that we know the origin of the alicorn amulete I want to now the origin of the thing that corrupted rarity.
0 likesAnd you said "alicorn" first but then you said "unicorn"
So he could troll his friends 🤣😂🤣
0 likesInstead of making content on already existing, mysterious and interesting characters, they made a movie that basically tosses everything that happened in mlp out the window
0 likesLmao the dramaticness at the end of the story then “yEaH sO tHaT’s WhAt I tHiNk HaPpEnEd” I love this channel 😂
28 likesI don't know who Sombra is but he sounds cool because I never watched my little ponies you're the only person who ever got me interested so yeah that's all I've got to say cool channel though
0 likesWhen king sombra died, why didn’t his unicorn horn dissolve but it was in the same shape and flew away??
0 likesBut this bothers me a bit.. when did he have the time to make any offspring or fall in love?🧐
0 likesit also explains why his name is KING Sombra because he was a former king
0 likeshey sawtooth! i dont know if this has been thought about before, but in magical mystery cure, right after when twilight becomes an alicorn, celestia holds a little speech where she mentions six attributes: charity, compassion, devotion, integrity, optimism and leadership. maybe those are what the young six represent, like the pillars also represent different things than the mane six.
10 likeswhat do you think?
This is weird when cozy glow , triek and chrysalis where turned to stone sombra was not gone yet its kinda weird… and love ur vids
0 likesProblem: the reason why there was a summer sun celebration was because celetia banished Luna to the moon
0 likesCelestia and Luna were already alicorns when they went to equestria
1 like4:28 lowkey sombra looking like prince in that normal king attire like
0 likesThe comics explain his past though, in "Fiendship is Magic"
25 likesHearing your ideas though, even with/without the comics, I feel that this is a solid theory
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The comics were never been explicitly stated as Canon in the Cartoon Universe. Moreover, Sombra's past in "Fiendship is Magic" had its own follow up story in the FiM comics issue #34 - 37 also known as the "Siege of the Crystal Empire" which is very different from his canon appearance in the episode "Beginning of the End". Moreover, the "Fiendship is Magic" comics can be disproven in the Canon universe, much like how issue #2 aka the Dazzlings backstory was disproven in the episode "Shadow Play". Lastly the existence of the Umbrum was never alluded in the show proper nor was any character named Radiant Hope, therefore there is no evidence pointing to his backstory in the Comics, making this theory very viable.
0 likes@The 13th Googler Dang, that's too bad. I do really love the comics but with the show having a solid 9 seasons, it's bound to disprove the comics. I'm currently doing a re-watch so I definitely don't remember all of that. My bad.
0 likesI've been watching these videos for TWENTY MINUTES now hand over the king
0 likesI know this is a year after but what if king sombra was the prince in the love story with the princess and when the princess fell outta love he went crazy and took over the crystal empire
1 likeSawtooth Waves:Eats apple fast
0 likesMe:How does he do it
What power does he have
I don’t even know that King Sombra have a wing😂😂
0 likesI like this theory. It would be interesting to explore the alicorn amulet further. Like maybe part of him remains in the amulet and when the crystal empire returned the amulet came back which allowed Trixie to find it which caused sombra to reawaken partly allowing discord to bring him back as grogar. Idk just something I thought of
10 likesthe future generations might not recognize the fact that king Sombre was an alicorn soooooo Starswirl you might wanna erase the wings
0 likesOkay, so I googled it and 'King Sombra' means 'King of Shadows' So-
0 likesthat explains why his magic is diffrent looking it look so weird like if u look at twighlights magic it doesnt look that way
0 likesI think the amulet originally corrupted Sombra he lost amulet but was permanently corrupted I don’t think he was ever an alicorn and it explains his possible color change
0 likesGrim back story
205 likesJokes
Hey Sawtooth, remember Mistmane, he had her horn. So what do you make of that
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I was thinking the same thing
12 likesWho's mistmane?
6 likes@coldhaixx One of the members of the Pillars. Basically one of the ye olde mane 6 from Star Swirl's era.
13 likes"Built: different."
7 likesMaybe the horn shape
13 likesdepends on where the ponies come from. Like for example mistmane looks like she came from Asia, and in mistmanes legend u can see that everyone in the empire had curved horns.
@Alexandra Adamczyk they couldve missed that episode, not everyone has a dvr that they are able to record episodes or access to Netflix
6 likes@Alexandra Adamczyk Maybe they haven’t finished the series yet?? Or they forgot her name? Don’t assume they haven’t watched the show because of one detail.
4 likesI think mistmane is from a tribe where everyone, s horn is curved
1 likeSome unicorns have different shapes horns depending on where they’re from. I’m pretty sure Mistmane’s home is the equestrian equal to Asia.
0 likesI mean it the horn could change with the amount of power you have as they were both very powerful unicorns (and/or alicorns??)
0 likesYeah mistmane's people had the same horn but they looked like regular unicorns other than that so he might be from her society
0 likes*she
0 likes@mothgirl™️ the series ended and now theres gonna be a new my little pony and I not think im not gonna like it waaaaaaaaaaa
0 likesThat's what I thought! He could easily be from where she was from!
0 likes@Alexandra Adamczyk I am an avid mlp lover and not even I knew who mistmane was.
0 likesMistmane probbaly came from a different ancient ponies tribe similar to Crystal ponies. Maybe they still exist somewhere in Equestria that we just didn't know. They didn't look much different but nevertheless different like how crystal ponies could be recognize by their eyes shape. Probbaly a tribe or sub-species of Unicorn, The design of of Mistmane's tribe horn and the Sombra was also different with Mistmane's tribe resemble the asian dragon's horn and Sombra look more like a devil's horn. The Mistmane's tribe magic was probbaly specialized on "asian magic" and dragon unlike the unicorn that more resemble to what we know as "european" with the history of knight, princess and medieval king. You know i considered the Crystal ponies as ancient sub-species ponies like if Earth ponies had connection to the earth and nature, the crystal ponies had connection to the mineral called crystal, specificaly the crystal heart and as far as i can remember from the the Siege of Crystal Empire and Crystalling episode, their appearance depend on their mood like if their sad they will became dull and this allowed them to empower the crystal heart with their emotion by channelling it through the crystal that make up their land. Remember the comic also introduced Thestral Ponies with evidence from the cannon show being that Luna continue to used guard that have bat-like wing as her personal royal guard even after she returned to being alicorn and not nightmare moon anymore.They have bat like wing and live on the night, i considered them a sub-species of Pegasi but the night version.
0 likesi always thought the princesses were always alicorns lmao
0 likes
0 likesapple bite"Well until a chaos Lord larping into a goat brought him back to troll his friends"
💀
i kinds feel bad for sombra now he didn't do anything wrong
0 likesHey! Even bad guys need a little love!
1 likeNow...Reform him
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If u ❤ it..I think u might do it so I'm happy
9 likesSwaven toon: easy diamond kiara
6 likesSombra: fool!
Aint he dead now? Like for real this time?
3 likes@DiscountFurby Then one what if? , like if the mane 6 didn t kill sombra how could be his redention
2 likes@DiscountFurby Can't someone just do like necromancy?
2 likesRRRRRRREEEEEEEFFFFFFFFFFFOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMM SOMBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likes@Tempestus only pre established character that could do that was discord and he probably won’t do it again
2 likesYes
2 likesCheck out Friendship is magic issue #37!!
0 likes@DiscountFurby Just bc hes dead, doesn't mean someone can't reform him...just show how he could if he ain't dead?
0 likesYes reform him... NOW
0 likesI know who can reform him. Trixie, think about it both were humillanted by powerful unicorns. Trixie can convice Sombra that you can be happy not being the first one, that defend your pround not always is the right chose
1 like@I like rice pudding +starlight
0 likesPLEASE DONT HE WILL BE MORE OF A CLOWN 😭😭😭
0 likesWhy cadence rule the crystal empire when she isn't crystal pony ?
0 likesDo you think the love spell was made for the crystal Princesse instead of cadence
MLP made Characters without thinking their backstory then leaves us to come to conclusions
0 likesTrixie might be the granddaughter of King Sombra. Her attitude is just like Sombra's.
0 likesHe is royalty he's just a long lost royalty. Son of Queen ocellus and king pharynx. Also nephew of King thorax. Prince sawtooth waves.
0 likesCould it be possible for ponies become a Nightmare race, like they do Alicorn?
0 likesThis a good theory and I hope it's true!
0 likeshe was very very angry when the two sisters came and get his way
0 likesIt's funny the amulet was Sombra's kept M A G I C.
0 likesI just have to say- you are so incredible at weaving stories! It may not be "official" canon, but I'm definitely going to think of this theory every time.
10 likesEvery time I see sobra I think he's a vampire 🤣🤣🤣
0 likesI agree with him can you make part 2
0 likesYou know on your video about how Twilight and cadence don’t have flying hair like the Royal sisters well if you watch carefully in season 9 for example where luster dawn thinks that friendship is a waste of time you see that twilight has a flying floating hair
0 likesI don’t wanna know why I remember this episode it was about king sombra past and it was really snowy and king Sombra fell in a hole and he 💀 And he came back corrupted but this episode never existed
1 likeI never realized the crystal ponies weren’t unicorn or Pegasi and I’ve watched the whole series about 10 times 😅
8 likesLove the vid but the summer sun celebration was for celestia defeating luna aka nightmaremoon
1 likeI know that’s going to sound crazy!….why can’t we reform Sambru?…
0 likesif you here at the benging of 'the crysal empire' part one you'll hear cesestia say sombra was turned to shadow
0 likes"a whole species of shadow creatures"
0 likesMe- *flash backs to "a fleeting light in the darkness" oh no...
*forgets king sombra existed
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Ikr same
3 likesThe alicorn of the alicorn amulet just looks like a generic alicorn 😅
0 likesSombra is my favorite villan.. Why? i'd need a lip biting emoji to explain
0 likes7:20 a warning, huh? Trixie should’ve known better!
0 likesFun fact : Sombra means Shadow in Spanish!
0 likesI guess I just thought he came from the crystal empire, but that makes no sense because he's not a crystal pony. I like this theory a lot more.
8 likesNow I feel bad for sombra but atleast he was a king before
0 likesCan you make a video on what happened to Princess Platinum & maybe the other tribe leaders in her time???? Connecting this vid it would explain alot of interesting stuff UwU!
0 likesi really just think sombra was never an alicorn and that the amulet is an alicorn just because it represents power
0 likesThere was already a unicorn King
1 likeDo you remember
This is gonna be Interesting! and the music is Perfect for the setting!
17 likesLove the intro.
0 likeswow this is amazing
1 likemy mind after watch your videos: ok my mind is about to explode 😩
0 likesI know this is a weird tearer but....
0 likesSombra is cozy clow's brother
That is why they are so into music
Imagine instead of King Sombra it was Prince meaning he had some family of high royalty
41 likesEdit: ok I put this wayyyy before I watched the video cause I had my own theory turns out we had the same idea lol
Maybe the shadowy thing is made from jealousy? Considering sombra if so got it from jealousy of the sisters, and luna got it from jealousy of celestia, tho isk how that little kid pony fits into this, havent watched that season yet
0 likesI like the idea that he might be rarity's dad
0 likesIt look's like a cameo to the my little pony series: A Heart's warming eve episode!! (Almost....) The 3 tribes don't.. like each other!! From the origin of ponyvile!!
0 likesHow do u draw yourself as a pony I wanna do that :)
0 likesIt took me a while to figure out that Sombra means Shadow in Spanish. King Sombra = King Shadow
8 likesI think the king sombra good side is an alternative universe and not a story of how he became how he is, I think he was always a bit of a bastard
0 likesOMG sawtooth you did good on this one I acually picture myself as the princess in
0 likesAnd where did he get his magic from?
0 likesWOW U ARE AMAZING U PUT IT SO WELL THANK U AMAZING JUST SPEACHLES
0 likesSawtooth Waves: Talks in a sad voice
58 likesAlso Sawtooth Waves: Talks all happily all of a sudden.
( No hate )
this is so good!!
0 likesI think the sisters took over and took king sombra's power and then they banished him.
0 likesMe be watching this be like: HOW DID HE TRANSFORM HIS HORN
1 likeUh I'm pretty sure he's just born without wings -.-
1 likeA question that came to my mind. Do we know which fight came first? The one against Discord or the one against Sombra? Most timelines i saw showed the fight against Discord before the fight against Sombra. But do we have evidence that it was that order and when yes, whay didn't the Princesses use the Elements?
4 likesI got a theory about why Starlight Glimmer wanted the cutie marks if she has the magic of earth pony’s, Pegasus, unicorns and 1 allicorn she would have became an ex - allicorn (but in her eyes she would have became Princess Starlight Glimmer)
0 likesI feel like the story is very accurate. But who are Celestia and Lunas parent???
0 likesNo, I think that isnt true..
1 likeI think whats really happen is:
Sombra was the one of the students of Princess Amore(Princess before Cadence)and other students were Princess Cadence and one pony that i dont really know name, i mean- they were kids still, and Sombra were thinking that he doesnt have any magic but Amore was there for him, when they grown up a little bit, he tried to steal Crystal Heart but Amore came to him and told him that he dont need to do that because he already have magic and he have time to change.... Sad part is that....
He got mad and turned Princess Amore into a stone and broke her..... 🥺
I could be wrong but didn’t Mist Mane and a few other ponies have the same horn shape as Sombra so is he from the same place as Mist Mane and those ponies are from ?
1 likeIt makes so much seance and I know that is true
0 likesAnd the story makes so much of the future yet to come
It isn’t totally the end of Kings Sombra because Twilight sparkle on her friends to teach him to more times so with the elements of harmony first time she defeated them with crystal heart the second time she defeated him with the elements of harmony third time she defeated him was that a century because King Sombra destroys the elements of pop
0 likesI have a theory,
0 likes1. What if sombra himself is just like mistmane. Look at the horn, I think they are two related types of unicorn. I dont know if I am right but that is just my theory.
He kinda looks like mist mane with the horn and the flowing hair o.o
1 likeI liked this video, the story was great. It's just that I read recently Sombra's origin in this comic book called "My Little Pony: Fiendship is Magic" about the villain's origins, and the story was completely different.
8 likesIf that's the case, then what happened to Princess Platinum in all that time?
0 likesYou should make a video abt christilas (I think I spelled it wrong) I just watched a video where she was allied with Sombra when he was good and she was the OLD princess of love
0 likesThis prompt 5:37 Just doesn't make sense how the heck would they know they could move the sun and moon?
0 likesThey cant just try randomly one day without the wizard's getting alerted
And being like "WHY IS THE SUN AND MOON MOVING ON ITS OWN."
What WOULD make sense is If the sisters were artificially created by them
And were born/created with both a horn and wings to symbolize the tribes and sun and moon
More than two random unicorns that randomly stepped up.
And what about their cutie marks?
Celestia and Luna would be above the age to get one by the time from the picture
I feel bad for his daughter
0 likesThe intro is THE BEST INTRO IVE SEEN THIS WEEK! I love this!
9 likesSO, KING COBALT WAS DEAD AND BECOME INTO KING SOMBRA BECAUSE HE WAS JEALOUS OF THE TWO ALICORN SISTERS, AND WHEN SOMBRA/COBALT LOST HIS WINGS BECAUSE STAR SWIRL LOCKED COBALT'S MAGIC AND BECOME AN ALICORN AMULET AND LIKE THE KING IN PRINCESS TRIXIE SPARKLE, IT'S A UNICORN LIKE SOMBRA BECAME TO BE. SO, HE CAN'T RULE EQUESTRIA, BUT, IT IS SO UNFAIR THAT SOMBRA WAS TRYING TO RULE EQUESTRIA EVEN THOUGH HE WAS A UNICORN LIKE IN THE TWO EPISODE "THE BEGINNING OF THE END".
1 likeI really want to know some magic spell form celestia
0 likesWait! If Luna and Sombra are alike, why would he be jealous of her and her sister?
0 likesPOV you dont read the comics lol an interesting thought tho I dont think he ever had wings if he did he probably would have got them back when discord brought him back
0 likesSawtooth: how king sombra came to be...
760 likesYouTube: interruptes with a Hershey's commercial
Me: ah yes, king sombra came to be through a Hershey's chocolate bar.
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LMAO
16 likesLol just 😂 😂 😂 lol
10 likesikr he was about to tell the story and a bike commercial pops up
16 likesMmmm dark chocolate
5 likesLMAO HAHAHAHAHA🤣
15 likesFun fact that you probably won't care about
My second name is actually 'Kirshey'
Yes my mom named me after her favorite chocolate (but obviously no one cares)
So we all get th re same adds ok
5 likes@Denki Kaminari why does nobody care I think its cool
6 likes@EG and AJ thx you're the first one to say that actually
3 likes😂😂D
1 like@Khalany btw its ads and no I don't have ads and a lot of people are saying different ads popped up but yeah I see a lot of the same ads on videos like they picked them.
3 likesLOL XD
0 likesWell according to my advertisement, he came to be by Pikmin 3 Deluxe
1 likeLmao 😂
0 likes#teamplanets
0 likes1 2 3 ice giants
1 2 3 4 ice balls
1 2 3 4 5 6 terrestrials
1 2 3 4 5 gas giants
Mercury, Venus, Earth, Theia, Mars, Ceres, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto,
Haumea, Makemake, Eris, Boreas.
Chancellor Puddinghead did it while riding a bike!! XD
1 like@Denki Kaminari that’s so cool
0 likesLMAAO
0 likesIt’s a good origin story.
0 likesLOL 😂 he is dark but that doesn’t make him a chocolate bar 🍫.
1 likeI never have ads
0 likesXD
0 likesI got a Game Ad for Brawl Stars.
1 likeha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesOmg 😂
0 likesWhen
0 likesThe same thing happened to me yes it is a Disney and Hulu
0 likesOmg to funny🤣😂🤣😂
0 likesLol
0 likesXD
0 likesLol
0 likesKing chocolate 🥱 (edit: I got an grammarly ad so he is king grammar now)
0 likesi had the same thing happen to me but with a star wars ad RIGHT as i read this comment lmao, talk about good timing.
0 likeslol
0 likesMine was a detergent ad—
0 likesMINE WAS A SWITCH HAHAHA
0 likes@Denki Kaminari *raises hand* I care
1 likeOhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
0 likesI got interrupted by a chicken ad.
0 likesSo mines like
How king sombra came to be a chicken
LMAOO
0 likesOMG 😂
0 likesI got a google ad
0 likesLmao
0 likesI got a cat food comercial and i was like oh so king sombra came to be by cat food oki 👌👌
1 likeI had a tiktok add 😂
0 likesLEAVE ME ALONE! 😡
0 likes@Kellen Vanberkum we didnt say anything about you
0 likesA chocolate sombra statue
0 likesWhat if King sambra was normal pony and turned evil by the evil version of the other growgars team.
0 likesI must find my new form I need the alicorn amulet
0 likesFor those who don’t know Spanish,Sombra=Shadow.
0 likesSo there is such thing of a stalli-corn...
0 likesINTERESTING
This could be a full on TV show on Netflix or something and everyone would love it
11 likesAlso that theme/intro song was AWESOME
King is a title so I believe if Cobalt is not his full name I would assume his name is cobalt honor, cobalt fury, or even cobalt night just to name a few
0 likeshaha .. nice ending .. give me that apple 😅
0 likesSombra: I used to rule the world
0 likesyou are right but what do you think would have happened if the royal sisters were not send to ECUESTRIA?
0 likes“But what do YOU think???”
176 likesYou wanna know what I think??? I think you need to speak with hasbro....right now!!
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Yes!! Collaborate n make more episodes! A whole season or more explaining EVERY single detail in equestrian history n future!!🤩
11 likes@Mazha Irfan THAT IS NEEDED
2 likesWait(writing on paper)dear pricess twi,....he's really smart and a mad genius and i think you'll be great Friends with him,one of your students of the school of friendship,comet silvertail
0 likeswhat about the Friendship is magic comic? it kinda does a origin story for sombra. Tough i'm not sure if the comics count as cannon
0 likeslike the firstest villain we seen with twilight without wings is chrysalis and sombra right?
0 likesCool theory but I'd like to ask, are the comics MLP fiendship is magic Canon? Because they present their own version of the villains origin story including sombra. In that version his story is quite tragic
0 likesDamn King Sombra was a bad lookin pony before he lost them wings😩😩😩
0 likesThat actually makes a lot of sence if that really is what happened then your good at guessing I feel like they should make something to show that this is what happened.
14 likesThis theory has a hole in it: sombra was banoshid wayyyyy before luna even before discord and the summer sun celebration became a thing after lunas banishment so yeah
0 likesIs princess cadense a desendant of sombra
0 likesAlso is the alecorn amulet a 7th element of harmony turned bad bye his magic starswold stole
But the summer sun celebration didn‘t exsist back when celestia and Luna rult together.
1 likeThe Summer sun celebration olny exsistet After Nihgt maer Moon
I think 🧐 this is vary true but I am wondering 💭 what is cozy glows story I am going to make a video about that and about sombra I think he was the father of princess 👸🏻 platinum too it is really interesting 🤨 thanks 🙏🏻 for making this video.
1 likeway back when you first made the sombra-amulet connection my mind sort of immediately generated this theory that Sombra himself made the amulet to enhance his own magic to be more on-par with an alicorn, and the mental corruption it brings is a sort of failsafe, that Sombra is immune to because he's just.....like that already. But for anyone else who would come into possession of something meant only for him, it would bring nothing but disaster
3 likesThat's probably why princess luna and I think princess winter was fighting with Sombra.
1 likemy theory:
0 likessombra: yo celestia my wings flew away lol
celestia: wait wut?
sombra: i dunno can you give me more flying thingies
celestia: i dunno
sombra: oh too late now I'm evil
celestia: mk
What if the unicorn princess and the others were the ancestors of the main 6
1 likeI think somebra lost his wings that‘s why he became evil 😈
0 likesThe last time I clicked this fast celestia and luna were thought to be naturally born alicorns
23 likesBut wasn't the Summersunset Celebration for defeating nightmare moon? So the first Summersun celebration was a long time after that, wasn't it?
0 likesI think that some evil person made the alicorn amulet by absorbing sombras magic wich corupted him
0 likesIn the beginning of the end we see crystal Pegasus as well as in threes a crowd.
0 likesI'm still so annoyed at the fact sombra is a female name for a male villian
0 likes"This is my son Jessica."
Look at mist mane, and her back story, they aren’t normal unicorns, curved horns, I think Sombra is one of them. Like earth ponies, unicorns have there off species, a species that looks like them, but aren’t them. I hope you see this, and I hope this helps.
361 likesEarth pony: Crystal Ponies
Unicorns: Curved horns (Mist mane)
Pegasus: Bat Ponies
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I've seen this mlp comic from fiendship is magic (I think I spelled it right) that it showed sombra's past and how he became evil
25 likes@Iyanna Dolina yes I know, but the comics aren’t really canon. Although it may be a possibility
17 likesHuh
3 likes@Jason Henry what exactly do you find ‘Huh?’ About?
3 likes@Jason Henry have
5 likesyou read the mlp comics?
I also don’t think Sombra was ever an alicorn, I think it was a metaphor that at one point, he was as strong as an alicorn
11 likes@Iyanna Dolina
3 likesNo
@Kalahari_Possum
5 likesJust an interesting idea, that each tribe has a sub race or off shoot that exists
@Jason Henry For me, it logically makes sense, since we have, Bat ponies, Crystal Ponies, and Curved Horns (MistMane)
12 likes@Kalahari_Possum
5 likesIt makes sense to me too
And don’t forget the Kirin from season 8, which are more related to unicorns.
5 likes@Kalahari_PossumYeah! , now imagine him as a alicorn. I think his full power can equal 3 alicorns. If i went far it coulb be the same power that twillight has in her battle with tireck. (Sirry for the bad english)
0 likesThat's.....actually a good point. If she had a curved horn, and Sombra has one, maybe they're related!
2 likesErm no. Now that sounds terrible.
@Alina Zhang Well it could be....only if we mix the comics with the show. There is a pony called Radian Hope and Mistmane kinda have her collors. Also she is taller and have a curve horn like sombra. The final resoult is that Mistmane is the lost dauther of Sombra.....yeah sounds crazy even for me
1 like@Iyanna Dolina Did You Mean Friendship?
0 likes@RazøRave no it's suppose to be fiendship bc im talking about the mlp comic
0 likesBut it is possible to come back to the regular pony state, fluttershy to flutterbat to fluttershy
0 likes@Uᴏ5ᴀ No, Kirin are not at all related to unicorns, they may have horns, but they are two different species
2 likes@Kirk Lundberg No, fluttershy became a bat pony due to magic, if you are naturally born one, I highly doubt you can tuen into the normal species
1 like@Kalahari_Possum thank you for the correction. What if every offshoot was made that way?
0 likes@Kalahari_Possum I know, but what I’m trying to say they are somewhat related, even if they are different species.Like how some apes, and humans have some similar features, and are somewhat related, even if they are different species.
1 like@Kirk Lundberg that is very possible, but I think it had more to do with breeding, with what? I don’t know, maybe it was a a breed of pony that went extinct due to this breeding
0 likes@Kalahari_Possum the only bat ponys that I know of are luna's guards, and they could have been pegisi, magically made into bat ponys, bats are nocturnal so bat ponys are more effective at night. I don't know about unicorn off shoots but the ones we know about are mistmane, who is a pillar and sombra is... sombra.
0 likes@Kalahari_Possum but with your breeding idea, I think the earth/Crystal ponys were successful.
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg Mist manes whole backstory has the same kind of unicorns as she is, so unicorns are successful too, and we know it’s possible to magically turn people into bat ponies, but there might be natural ones too
0 likes@Kalahari_Possum ok
0 likesMistmane’s horn kinda looks like a katana, considering the old and/or ancient japanese/chinese (cant remember where that type of sword came from) vibes I get when I watch the story.
0 likesAll ponys have magic not just unicorns, Pegasus have the levitation spell, earth ponys have a growth spell not a strength spell.
0 likesOr maybe its just that thats wut unucorn horns looked like into the past -_- just look at when rarity rold the story of mistmane in one of the episodes second time they went camping with scootaloo, rainbow dash, apple bloom and applejack all of the unicorns had thise horns in the story
1 like@~lizzie~ or mabye their style is skewered by rarity's interpretation and perspective.
0 likes@Iyanna Dolina It’s friendship is magic
0 likes@yuxin zheng what I ment was fiendship is magic it's about the mlp villains
0 likesAbout the unicorns it is true look at sombras horn its curve and wholesome
0 likesI have an add-on to the curved horned unicorns being in the past.
1 likeSo, we all know that Mist Mane’s horn is curved, but there’s another unicorn that has a curved horn at the same time... Stygian. The unicorn who started the Guardians of Equestria or whatever they’re called.
It could be possible that curved unicorn horns could just mean that they’re stronger, but I’d just like to point that out.
@Aubrey Baird hybrids, exactly, they are hybrids, it may have been due to magic at first, but we can’t be sure. We also don’t know there exact origins, so either one of our theories could be correct
0 likes@Aubrey Baird with the crystal ponies I see what you mean, but with Mistmane, I think it’s just more of they are more powerful, since they have the flowing manes like Luna, Celestia (?) and now Twilight. It’s also entirely possible Bat ponies are lab creations, that became a bit more of a species. Also you don’t need to say no hate, I know you’re just saying your opinion :)
0 likes@Uᴏ5ᴀ Now I see what you mean, thank you for the correction, it could be possible that somewhere in the unicorn evolution Kirin were somehow created by breeding
1 like@~lizzie~ that could be possible, and Sombra is just old, but I kinda like the theory that they were there own species, that are either in hiding or extinct, other then mistmane
0 likesHow did opposite Sombra live for 1000 years
0 likesOr....MAYBE, king sombra never had wings!
0 likesi thought the summer sun celebration was the celebration of banishing luna to the moon so how would both sisters be there or it even existing at the time
0 likesSawtooht change into a alicorn?!
1 likeman, so much trouble has been caused because of the Royal sisters
0 likessawtooth: sombra's eyes are different
0 likesme:YOUR EYES ARE DIFFERENT
Why then when Celestia Luna and cadence gave there alicorn magic to twilight did they not revert back to there prealicorn states? If stripping a alicorn of all three magic types reverts them what made the original three different
0 likesCrystal Empire: Exists
0 likesKing Sombra: I'm gonna end the crystal empire's whole career, lol.
Princess Celestia And Princess Luna: We're gonna end this king's whole career, lol.
King Sombra: WHAT THE ACTUAL HAY!
King Sombra: If I'm banished then the crystal empire is banished with me, lol.
Princess Celestia And Princess Luna: WHAT THE ACTUAL HAY!
1000 years later...
Crystal Empire: Exists
King Sombra: I'm gonna end the crystal empire's whole career again, lol.
Mane 6 And Spike: No we are gonna stop you from taking over it again, lol.
King Sombra: No you're not, lol.
Spike, Princess Cadence, The Crystal Ponies And The Crystal Heart: We're gonna end this king's whole career, lol.
King Sombra: WHAT THE ACTUAL HAY!
7 seasons later...
King Sombra: Thanks for freeing me, Grogar. Now I'm gonna end the crystal empire's whole career again, lol.
Mane 6: No we're gonna end you're career with the elements of harmony, lol.
King Sombra: WHAT THE HAY!
King Sombra: I'm gonna end the tree and the elements of harmony's whole career, lol.
Mane 6: WHAT THE ACTUAL HAY!
King Sombra: Now I'm gonna end all of Equestria's career, lol.
Discord: I will help for a while.
Few minutes later...
Discord: What the hay I got hurt by his magic, Twilight and your friends can help save Equestria from King Sombra. You don't need me, you don't need the elements. You just need friendship, okay?
Mane 6: Okay, and King Sombra we have the power of friendship, to end your career permanently.
King Sombra: WHAT THE ACTUAL HAY!
Everytime that king sombra is back
0 likesThe main 6 be like : let's just blast him with a rainbow and kill him lol
I prefer his comic book sorry and I'm pretty sure it's actually canon but nice theory <3
0 likesthis is only to be read by sawtooth waves himself .
0 likesyou know what I was so off on my theiry as that i thought he might have been half changeling and had been a banned and trend to the dark arts to seek revenge and power and I the process lost him self and as for the amulet mabey his power was growing week and the best way to preserve magic is by keeping it in an artifact he sacrificed some of his magic putting into the artifact and after being banished as we know can not be completely permanent he hide the artifact till his safe return return
sawtooth I think he gained power by crystal ponies that's why they have no horns or wings
0 likesEver thought about this theory how do the ponies grab things if they don't have fingers
0 likesThat doesn't explain good King Sombra in alternative timeline tho.
0 likesWhy would he be a good guy in alternative timeline?
The Crystal Empire is in Equestria so how did he get there it he was banished
0 likesThat. Was a Beautiful story…”
0 likessombra; I WILL RULE YOU ALL WITH AN IRON FIST!!!
44 likespoints to the crystal ponies YOU- OBEY THE FIST!!
(invader zim reference)
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Pointed a Hoff saying "I'll rule of u with an iron fist" 😂😂😂✊
1 likeOMG!!! HI!!!!
1 likeHe was banished from equestria the crystal empire is a part of equestria
0 likes"How king sombra came to be"
1 likeMakeup ads come on*
Me: 👁👄👁
If all of this happens then what about princess Platinum?
0 likesA actually did you know that the Spanish word for Shadow is
0 likesSombra.
And his name Is
Sambra.
Hey I notice that combra don't have a cutymark .🤔 if he started like a unicorn so he must have a cutymark. What do you think???😶😶
1 likeomg as a kid a saw an animation on how king sombra could have happened I forgot what it was called but it was like a Jack frost thing with him being dragged under the ice by the shadow thingy, it's called a tall of one shadow
0 likesThe Fandom wiki says that Princess Platinum's father's name was King Billium. Other than that, the story is pretty much accurate.
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Or Bullion
0 likesWe all know rarity 's book was years old what if sombra use that to learn dark magic
0 likesImagine crystal ponies + earth ponies + pegasi + unicorn ponies ?
0 likesOn Halloween can you make how Terri came to be
0 likesBtw the summer Sun celebrate was made after Luna was on the moon so this theory can’t be true
1 likemaybe Sombra is from the east as he has a curved horn like Mistmane
0 likesheadcanon: Sombra had his voice change because Discord revived him
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I-
6 likesThey could actually pull that off :o
And that could also explain why the crystal heart didn't stop him from invading the empire
0 likes@AlfieTheChucky>AFanboy the crystal heart only has the power to push back something ( proven in season 3,6,9). 3 it was cadances magic that was keeping the empire safe. In the end it comes down to the Crystals pony’s light and hope to empower the crystal heart and use is it to push back whatever it is. (Like the frozen north, sombra and the darkness of sombra). Not sure if that makes sense..
0 likesSombra,s eye,s look like wings.🦋
0 likesThat could be possible because the sun celebration was celebrating the defeat of nightmare Moon which was after that happened
0 likesMy theory is his wings are invisible
0 likesOMG! NOW THIS MAKES SO MUCH SINCE
0 likesmake a video of reforming king sombra please
1 like0:12 “except rumours from questionable sources”
0 likesshows picture of an official MLP comic
Okay! This doesn't display my point how did his horn change? And how did his eyes change a reddish orange?
1 like8:43
1 likeMe : The end oh well good theory an......
8:46
Sawtooth : No , not today
This is epic! And totally PERFECT for Halloween. You should name it "Happy Halloween!"
5 likesWell I have my own theory that he used to work for cream? I'm sorry Queen Chrysalis because the horn is like the fourth change wings performed change lanes reformed Changeling sorry about that so I think he used to work for queen Queen Chrysalis because he's so evil and he wants to dream power from everyone like King bike pranks T-Rex sorry for the joke that's my day have a great day
0 likesI know it's a bit too late, but can you make "Reforming King Sombra" video?
0 likesI feel sad because king cobrint got broken and so as sombare like they could just remove the bad sombara and just gave king cobrint
0 likesi have a question... how do u know so much about these ponies?
0 likesI had a huge crush on this guy 💀🚶🏾♂️
1 likeYou should look up my dear Luna on YouTube that might help you with some facts about King Sombra
0 likesOk, its confirmed that Rarity is King Sombra daughter, but after her father "died" she left the kingdom and got adoted by kind parents who died at the festival for the Princesses
0 likesBut sombre came back and killed the tree of harmony
0 likesMe:*watching sawtooth waves*
40 likesMom:why u into that childish show. I thought it was over.
Me:bcuz of sawtooth's sweet voice. 😊
LUV U SAWTOOTH
Sombra. Is just used for ships with Luna now. He was so wasted.
0 likes9:17 this makes sense you are correct I think that's what happened
0 likesWait sombra has wings I did not know?
0 likesThis needs to be cannon
0 likesOmg king Sombra would maybe be the oldest pony in Equestria
0 likesI think Sombra was always a unicorn
0 likesSombra's Origin is clear but what about the Castle Of The Two Sisters what is Sombra haunts it because it's dark like Sombra and it's also scary to be alone with so Is King Sombra like in a other vid I gave you something about like why Chrysalis fooled everypony as Cadence
0 likesWell whatever happened to his daughter do some research on that and let us know cuz we will really like to know where is she
0 likes"...besides rumors from questionable sources we have nothing..." LOL! Another great video overall, thank you! #thecomicsarecanon
11 likesWait why dint Trixie gain wings when she used sombras ambulent???????? 🤔
0 likesWHY DOES SOMBRA LOOK LIKE SCAR FROM THE LION KING????
1 likeDid Sombra's wife die, is that why Sombra is so evil because of depression?
0 likesI love it! But i do have a problem. What about his daughter? Where did she go?
0 likesSawtooth: He lashed back like a threatened animal.
16 likesMe: He IS a threatened animal.
He is a pony.
And he is being threatened.
This implies Celestia and Luna were Alicorns to begin with because they had their magic drained thrice
0 likeswhere do you get those earth pony and alicorn things
0 likesWhat about his daughter? What happened to her?
0 likesthis is why i like the villans more than the heros LOL
0 likesYes but if king sombra the pony's magic and star swairl took the magic in to a gem but the magic inside the gem is for the pony's so maybe the pony's lost there power but got there power from the princesses
0 likesWhat if sombra made the alicorn amulet
0 likesWasn’t he banished to the shadow realm
0 likes...There's actually a comic issue about Sombra...
0 likesI like the theory that Sombra became an alicorn but my theory on Sombra's past and the alicorn amulet was that the older brother of Sombra, Prince Sombree
4 likeswas transformed into the alicorn amulet and King Sombra was furious about it and became evil, unaware that his brother did horrable thing to Equeastria.
How did celestia get rainbow hair?
1 likeyou forgot something what would he do with his daughter
0 likesomg ive just been loving youre vids and ive been only watching for 30 minutes
0 likesI wish sumbra was Still alive😭😭😭😭
0 likesCelestia and Luna were born alicorns according to the creator
0 likesThe summer sun celebration came after Luna's banishment
0 likesCough cough. I remember being the first summer sun celebration happend after Nightmare Moon been banished into the moon unless im wrong-
0 likesomg i just thought of something who are king sombra's parents?
0 likesMe, who has the official Sombra backstory comic
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Yeah I remember reading about that (I don't acutally own it myself) and in there he is literally an umbrum as told to him by his mother.
12 likesSorry to break it to you but since it isn’t confirmed by the show then it’s not canon, this applies to all the mlp comics
13 likes@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo Oh! I didn't know that! Thanks :) But does that mean "Season 10" is non-canon or is it an exception? I've never gotten to read any of them so I'm not a great source lol
6 likes@AnnePixie Bettinger, not sure if season 10 might be an exception, but I’d assume the same rule applies were it should not be considered canon unless confirmed by Hasbro, this means that it could be made canon given there’s supposed to be another movie in 2021, but that you shouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t become canon.
1 like@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo well that's the problem, Hasbro say the comic are cannon as long as what they stated in them dosen't conflict with the show's cannon. So what the basically say/confirm is that there is a ponyvers. The comcs are cannon in their way and the show is cannon as well.
5 likesWait.the history of how cadance became an Alicorn is canon?
1 like@paula98sony, and why is that a problem? The comics don’t need to be canon for them to be enjoyable.
2 likes@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo thought it was said that all the comics were canon unless it came into conflict with the show. Nothing in the show has conflicted with Sombra's backstory comic.
2 likes@SleepyBunnei, they never mention those events in the show, combined with no mention of an appearance of sombra after season 3 and before season 9 should be enough proof that it didn’t happen.
1 like@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo umm no? Sombra was just neglected by the staff along with crystal empire itself. Like come on Sombra was in 2 premieres and thats it, and the crystal empire was more of a setting in a few episodes then it was to learn about it.
2 likes@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo it is and I quote "B-Canon"
1 like@SleepyBunnei at the end of the day it’s not canon, but I feel like that matters little, just because it’s not canon does not mean people can’t enjoy it, however it does mean Hasbro has no obligation whatsoever to do anything with it, which means that lacking lore is not a justification for it being canon.
2 likes@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo but it is. B canon literally means that its canon unless it conflicts with the show i e the shows says that its wrong not that it doesnt mention it
2 likes@Jose Miguel Caballero restrepo actually, the comics are B-Cannon
0 likesMeaning they are cannon if the story doesn't conflict with the show
So all of Sombra's past is 100% cannon because it doesn't have any conflicts to a pre-existing backstory in the show
@T. B. Phillips it does not have to be shown in the show to be canon if Hasbro said the comics are B canon and it doesnt conflict with the show then its canon
0 likesi know im late,( like always)🤭 but i just wanted to say that i remember Trixie wearing that amulet when she came for revenge from twilight sparkle https://youtu.be/Xl2Ub7LmVlE?t=36
3 likeswait wait wait so
0 likesthe sisters became rulers through power and the people, so they overthrew the rulers????
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this YouTuber didn't do his research. Read the book 'The Journal of the Two Sister's.' It's about how Celestia and Luna REALLY became princesses. Most of this theory for Sombra was false, you have to read the comics.
0 likesI think you're pretty much right
0 likesthe end of the story was so sad with the music
0 likes"many moons passed"
149 likesMe: *flashbacks to Warrior Cats*
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At least Warrior Cats have a proper set of rules to how they use the term "moons". MLP glossed right over it.
13 likes@Numberjacks Octonauts fair. Very fair
3 likesmeh still hasn't seen the series TwT
3 likesThought I was the only one
1 likeNow you are a human of culture
2 likes@Joceyb23 Yessir I wholeheartedly agreeee
0 likes@Numberjacks Octonauts yasssssss
0 likesLol
0 likesLololololollollooll
0 likesmaybe he was just in family of dark magic😑
0 likesDose that make sombra the first male alicorn?
0 likesAny reason why you constantly resort to the story about 6 unicorns raising the sun and moon? It was nothing more than a part of a play. And I'm pretty sure that it's even said in the episode itself that it isn't real history.
0 likesI will tell my grandfather! He was a lawyer!
0 likes"A chaos god LARPing as a dead goat so he could troll his friends"
38 likesHA
There can't be both the sisters in the summer sun celebration as it was celebrated cause of the defeat of night mare moon so Luna can't be there only Celestia can be there
0 likesWonder if he could get reformed?
0 likesBut when the 3 princesses gave twilight there magic they were still alicorns
0 likeshave we actually ever seen i male Alcorn in the show tho?
0 likesMany fun ideas but not much in terms of proof. I’d love to learn more about this unicorn king but there’s some flaws with it being sombra.
3 likesLike, where princess platinum throughout this whole story? Wouldn’t she have noticed his studying of dark arts and tried to talk him out of it? If she didn’t know, why didn’t she seek answers after his banishment?
His lack of cutiemark can also throw a monkey wrench into the theory. If he was born unicorn, wouldn’t he have gotten his cutiemark by the time he was a stallion? While it is possible to reach adulthood without it within the canon, I find it hard to believe that he was uncertain about what he wanted to do. I suspect he could have gotten his cutiemark in this context when he became the crown prince of the unicorns, when he was coronated as king of the unicorns, when he first was removed from power, when he began studying dark magic, when he first gained all the magic that transformed him, when he was banished from equestria, or when he conquered the crystal empire. Most ponies eventually get them. But hey, maybe his purpose in life wasn’t ruling, studying dark magic, or being forever alone. Maybe the gem took his cutiemark, who knows.
Another issue is in the basis for the story. When Tirek came into equestria he was specifically able to take all types of pony magic. (Except for the magic of friendship but stay with me) He gets Cadence, Twilight’s, Luna’s, and Celestia’s magic. In those moments they have lost the magic that made them alicorns. But, they didn’t revert back to unicorns. What makes this different from cozy or sombra?
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Me and my friend think that he’s half Kirin and used a spell to make him seem like a pure unicorn. The reason why Princess Platinum never found him practicing dark magic was probably that he just was like, “I’m gonna study normal, safe, and good magic. It’s pretty hard for me to learn new spells when ponies are watching me, though.” After Sombra’s banishment, she probably was shocked that her father was not the pony she though him to be. She probably didn’t want to talk about father after it. She isolated herself from the world after that.
1 likeEdit: The Princesses Alicorn wings and horns are permanent because they were provided by Starswirl’s spell. Cozy and Sombra horns/wings were taken away by Starswirls magic.
what about when you explained how celestia and luna became a alicorn because of star swirl? cuz in this video u said that as they rose the moon & sun and the other ponies gave their love then they became alicorns?? (srry if this doesn’t make sense)
0 likeslove your videos
0 likesSo he's an alicorn now?
0 likesAh yo do unicorns horns just fall of like that?
0 likesI mean if not it could that he still had some of the stolen magic left and that's what let him keep the horn
When you theorized about the elements of disharmony, the element of evil magic would be the alicorn amulet, and in this video starswirl kinda created the element of evil magic. So starswirl created the element of evil magic and magic
3 likesYou can see,the pony of shadows is alicorn,no stigian i mean the shadow,maybe is a lost in shadows alicorn?
0 likesR.I.P sombra
1 likeThe journal of the two sisters day that the princesses were already alicorns
0 likes8:42 then he attacked the elements
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8:50 Eyup
0 likesTo be honest why isn’t Discord able to beat everyone. He is pretty much a good. His only flaw is his brain since he only thinks about chaos and only uses he’s magic for chaos well until he was reformed.
4 likesY DO I ALWAYS WATCH THIS VIDEO AT NIGHT , WITH MY 10 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER , IT GIVES HER NIGHTMARES
1 likeThis. Is. GENIUS
0 likesomg you are so right! THIS IS BIG
0 likesIf you know can you do a crossover theroy about who from the main 6 and their elements would be represented by in the Winx fandom? More simply put- Which of the main 6 Winx girls would be which of the elements/Main pony 6. Please and thank you!
0 likes"How King Sombra came to be..."
14 likesAdd plays
Alright then, keep your secrets.
But where is Sombra's daugther?
1 like<3 it
0 likesWait a minute,
1 likeIsn't the Summer Sun Celebration Celebrated on the defeat of Night mare moon????
Lauren: write that down, write that down!
1 likeI actually helped sawtooth waves solve this mystery! I hope you all enjoyed the video! Bro hoof!😊
3 likesThere's a whole comic about Sombra's origins that came out in 2015
0 likesDang. That was good. And makes sense
0 likesno more apples for you toot. time to let others have a taste of the apple now. because twilight and the mane 6 taught me it's better to share than using people for my own selfish gain.
0 likesI did not watch my little pony G1 and got scared of Tirek and Grogar, Tirek literally threatened to decapitate Spike wtf😵
0 likesI feel kinda bad for this him, he had no choice, the sisters did just rip him from being king, it must suck.
4 likesWell there is a crystal pony that fell
0 likesIn love with sombre I watched
The video when I was 6 now I'm 8
So yea.there is a crystal pony from
The crystal empire that fell in love with king sombre.
It started as they were kids but sombre grow wings and a horn while
She grow a horn when they were teenagers sombre and her loved to
Ice skate.When they were adults
They went ice skating but the ice broke were she was standing
Sombre pushed her out the way of the broke ice he fell into the water
Until he was bite by a fish that gave him a strange feeling evry night after that he was transformed into the shadow sombre.Ever since then he was evil and was banished for his
Darkness of shadow.
But the love for sombre never
Ever was destroyed.
Thx for listening to me.
Guys, did any ofyou noticed that Sombra NEVER HAD A CUTIEMARK!!!
0 likeswasn't there a comic that told of his origns?
0 likesFinally solving alicorns
0 likesSawtooth, this is all Hasbro's fault for making sombra suffer so much in pain and I blame them for what they did to sombra too
5 likesWhere did you find the art???
0 likesI like your theory. Super. Amazing
0 likesWait why king zombra killed the tree of harmoney :/
1 likeWhere is the queen that rule before cadence???She got turned to Stone by King Sombra..
0 likesHow sombra came to be:
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Same, except with a Game of Sultans ad
2 likesHe rage quit so many games he had anger issues lol XD
2 likesCool all these interconnected theories~
1 likeThe only issue is that princess seems to be the head of a monarchy in mlp.
0 likesWho the hell was King sombra's Queen??
0 likesSaw tooth that is the way to get what you want.
0 likeswhat if the king sombra was the king of the crystal empire millennia ago? like, without being mean
7 likesI think celestia gave him the unicorn amulet to him, because don't have men alicorns, to rule the crystal empire, but the amulet corrupted him
If you go on the time on the video 6:58 sombra got really mad and since night mare moon is a thing can’t luna turn into night mare moon with all that rage in her a type of force goes on luna and turns her in to night mare moon that is just me idk
0 likesomg i just thought of another awsome idea who are the two sisters parents?
0 likesbut in the video when he turn to sombra he had no wings in the episodes of my little pony why???
0 likesCries in Radiant Hope
0 likesStar swirl: “Don’t hurt my students.”
39 likes4:27 well good story sawtooth
0 likesIn my dream I was kinda celestia and lunas son and killed zombra who had a fake name called apex and I take him down when I found out that apex really was zombra but took over a kaiju drone and I took him out by both my orbit oblivion and me scytheun in energy from the elements of harmony and the only thing left of zombra and the drone who had helped by holding zombra back but only zombra horn and the drones armour and head left and heres the thing apex back and had showed up and didn't fire his shattered shadow and he doesn't talked the zombra apex did
1 likeI think people cheerd for king cobalt then he became an alicorn
0 likesIs not evil magic is negative energy yeah if you treated unfair, jealous/envy or negative felling inside heart they become a evil
0 likesThis actually makes sense... and I LOVE YOU
18 likesdidnt one of the pillars have a horn like sombra?
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Mistmane, but that's because she's based on Eastern unicorns, which have long, curved horns.
0 likesHasbro is gonna siege you you're gonna get it right eventually
0 likesMost epic intro
0 likesSummer sun celebration started after Celestia defeated Nightmare Moon
0 likes“Came back for round two” - the brony notion, 2020
66 likesMe: dies of round two
"How king sombra lost his wings"
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I guess he found some shoes then……. Well………. He didn’t need his wings…………… since he could jUsT wAlK aRoUnD eQuEsTrIa???????????
0 likesHold up hold up hold up RARITY IS SOMBRA’S DAUGHTER
0 likesBut how did he get jealous even tho he likes celesta and got kids and name Twilight
1 likeTheres something off here the sun summer sun celebration was created to celebrate nightmare moons lost but luna was still there in quite confused
0 likesI flippin love your theories- they make so much sense-
3 likesThink about what we have
1 likeheard king sombre
And queen crisalis think
about that🤔
WOW u rite the story EXACTLY how it goes
0 likesqueen crisalis also has the slit eyes and sharp teath
0 likesThen what about your other theory about sombra being a king with queen crisilis and he put then in lockdown
0 likes@SawtoothWaves I think the person was Celestia
0 likesWHAATTT about the King Sombre & Queen Chrysalis Theory ( they def have some simliarties with the horns fangs and dark magic / eternity, both powerful could he be a changeling too .
0 likesWhere did the 2 princesses come from
Is it possible that Princess Cadence is Sombra's descendent?
0 likesbut king Sombra like the cristal empire he didnt care about the two main princess
0 likesThere is something you need to know that in comic about king sombra's backstory.He is never a normal pony.He is something call shadow pony or something, I forgot, but all I can say is He never become Alicorn.
4 likesAccording to comic call Sombra Rex
How long does it take to make these
0 likesthis is what happen sombra was a Alicorn then the sun and moon came and sombra lost hes wings and became bad and want to kill the moon and the sun and when he try the sun and the moon lock him up and he found the necklace and got out.
0 likesthe end is so funny =>
0 likesSawtooth waves you look cute with the bat wings and the ponted ears
0 likesI never realized that he used to be a great king of the unicorns. Although he was bent on corruption, he was a respected leader, until the rise of the Royal Sisters exposed him.
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It is never canonically confirmed that Sombra was the unicorn king as far as I'm aware, it just fits with the time line, and definitely makes sense for some parts
0 likesHmm, then I believe Sombra might have been some sort of Tyrant.
0 likesIf King Sombra had a daughter who is her mother
0 likesI think this perfect explanation
0 likesHe is a shadow pony who killed the teacher of Cadance. I have read official comics of mlp fim.
0 likesWhat about the pony of shadows he amulet could be from sambra or the pony of shdows
0 likesYes, but if king sombra had a kid, then who is the mother?
6 likesI think you’re right
1 likeWho was Sombra's wife?
0 likesWait When You Said "He Sent His Dature" 👧 It Showed I Pic Of RARITY 🤯
0 likesHow about chrysalis the old queen of the changelings
0 likesIn my opinion I think he just conjured the power to make an amulet that can do Alicorn magic
13 likesIsn't the summer sun celebration a celebration of defeating nightmare moon?
0 likesWhy Sombra lost his wigns
1 likeThis makes sense but didn’t the summer sun celebration happen because celesta sent nightmare moon to the moon? Or is that something else my memory is a bit rusty
0 likesI think you’re right
1 likeSawtooth: I think I figured it out. I think I figured out how King Sombra came to be...
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Edit: I just realized somebody already commented something like this 👁💧👄💧👁
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LOL this comment made my day! And where I live it is Friday! Or as my teacher likes to call it FriYAY
2 likesAND today I had THREE tests and I got a good grade on all of them! Today my lucky day :>
( lol sorry I am a huge talker when I am alone )
Lol 😂
1 like@KystallBunny I’m glad I made you laugh! :D I’ve been home most of the time but tbh that’s exactly what I love to do lmao. Hope you have a good rest of your day!
0 likesMy ad : does your skin have sun damage
2 likesmine is a coffee ad.
2 likesI got the same add
1 likeMaybe it was the evil darkness
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Because i have read the evil darkness was real
0 likesWAIT!!!! who is the mother?
0 likesThe music is perfect timing
0 likesSawtooth that is not how you get what you want. Ask nice and polightly.
0 likes"well until a chaos god larping as a dead goat brought him back to troll his friends" XD nuff said!!
17 likesnobody:
0 likesme: raretis dad is somboa O-O
"Whatever just give me the apple." MoOd
0 likesWhy didn’t the blue unicorn that challenged twilight to a match become a Alicorn?
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When she wore the amulet
0 likesYeah Yeah she took over the Crystal Empire😒
0 likesI've been watching this over and over again to see if the origin you gave sombra and your theory is perfect
4 likesSpoiler alert the comic books reveal somba’s backstory
0 likesI need movies or a season of villain origins.
0 likesdidint the first summer sun celebration happen after nightmare moon was banished long after sombra was even defeated by both the sisters
0 likesWho did sombra over throw
0 likesDam that story was freak-a-doo-dallying good story
8 likesI don't Sombra alone ruled the ponies of Equestria. Look at Celestia and Luna they ruled together. I think Commander Hurricane, Chancellor Puddinghead and Sombra ruled together.
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I also think after Celestia and Luna became Princesses they asked the ruler of all tribes to advise and help them to move Equestria into a new era. Commander and Chancellor agreed but Sombra refused and said he wanted to move out of Equestria. The sisters let him go and he went. Soon Sombra found the crystal empire and the is history.
0 likesHE IS WEARING THE AMULET BRUH.
1 likeI think you're right!
0 likesMAYBE SOMBRA AND CRYSILYS WERE MARRIED AND THEY RULED THE CRYSTAL EMPIRE AND THE CHANGELINGS WERE THE GUARDS AND SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THEM
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Pls like or comment
0 likesBruh.....you are an epic story teller 📚
9 likesI thought you said Luna and Celestia were born alicons
0 likesThe crystal empire reminds me of France
0 likesUmm you said this a story about how sombra lost his wings it’s more like how sombra became evil
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both of those things happen in the story c:
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves Hi @Sawtooth Waves! I LOVE your channel SO much!
0 likesWait if king cobalt has a daughter then who is Cobalt’s wife and what happen to her or did king Cobalt adopted her to be her daughter?
0 likes“Ugh whatever just give the apple”- sawtooth waves 2020
6 likesI love your videos
0 likeswhat about destroing to tree?
0 likesMy point: Actually, King Sombra didn’t die, if you watch My Little Pony on Netflix, it only shows five seasons. Altogether there are I think nine seasons. And around season six or something like that,Shining Armour and Cadence had Flurryheart. And King Sombra returned
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sawtooth is very much aware of the other seasons
0 likesKing sombra didn't return in Flurry Hearts crystalling
0 likesThen what happens to her daughter?
0 likesDoes anyone else hear King Sombaar?
1 likeWhere my Indians at
Are you kidding me celestia and princess Luna were natural alicorn🤦🤦🤦
0 likesWell his horn not very wired
0 likesConsidering mistmain's horn
Get evil king somber away.
0 likesThis is my first Halloween episode and I love it!
3 likesHow many times did he say corn in this video?
0 likesYou got the story wrong because if they were young when he took over why do they look the same as now
0 likesMlp animator’s: wha- we just told that rarity was a princess since it would suit her…
0 likesKing cobalt sounds a little short
0 likesLmfao I like how he finishes this macabre story with “oh yea discord happened lol”
8 likesI love how your cutie mark is a Sixteenth note
0 likesHe took over for like 5 minutes
0 likesKing sawtooth waves you can have a Apple 🍎
0 likesI think that happened to king sambra
0 likesI think it's a really great theory, BUT we alredy know where he is from. I can't remember the name righ now, but there is a comic about him and his best friend Radiant Hope. There is also a comic where Radiant Hope and Princess Cadence talk to him and with the umbrum ponies. But I still love your theorys, it's mind blowing.
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And that comic would have been considered canon if Sombra wasn't the villain of the season 9 premier since he reformed in that comic.
3 likesThat comic isn't canon, The writers of the show said that it wasn't canon to the story
3 likesThe comic series is called 'Fiendship is Magic' and the issue was the first one, if I remember correctly. There was also a sequel to these events in the main comic series, too. I wished that the comic creators and show creators actually worked together for consistency sake and not create what I call 'timeline continuity' issues. It's pointless to create a comic if it ain't going to follow the show's line of events.
1 likeOn top of this, I always thought the sequel story was the most shining example of friendship's power in G4. It was the words of Sombra's childhood friend, Radiant Hope (not the Main Six and their rainbow beams) that defeats and reforms him in that case. It's such a shame that the show creators didn't focus on that.
@Camilla Hearsch oh I'm Sorry i didn't know that, thanks for telling me tho 👍
1 likeNo. Discord took Sombra from tartarus. Sombra wasn't killed.
0 likesThe two were born Allicorns
0 likesok just read the mlp comics 34 35 and 36 It explained his entire backstory
0 likesI love king sombra
1 likeThis still doesn't explain his "resurrection", death feint by the elements, and how Discord even considered bringing back Sombra
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can i ask what are those episodes?
0 likes@Elsly Leanel Asistin S9, EPs 1 and 2
0 likes@Jennifer Smith how do you get s9 i only have s8
0 likes@fun time with aya The channel "letupita725hd★" has almost every episode. That's how I watch.
0 likesWhat if rarity is related to princess platinum? They both know about gems.
0 likesSawtooth read fairies and magical creatures and open up to the unicorn page
0 likesNice story!
0 likesSombra was the first alicone befor named king sombra
0 likesHow the hell do people think of all this?!?!
0 likesI think Star swirl was in the limbo
0 likesMaybe he is a dark spirt
0 likesWait a minute I might know who’s oh no is a MoveOn in Somers and then Sombra may seem not like princess some more but salon can’t do you
0 likesWow your narration is on point!! :D
4 likesWhy do you think it was so sad?
0 likesYou're right!✌️
0 likesCelestia and Luna are not naturally born Alicorns. The only naturally born Alicorn is Flury Heart (daughter of Cadences and Shining Amor ( Twilight's big brother)).
1 likeHe tun evil when he was in his teens from a dark crystal called his mother
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0 likesBro.. that was very good
0 likesWhat if Discord was a pony
0 likesOkay I noticed that king Sombra does not have his cutie mark strange
0 likesWhere is somebra’s ear?
1 likeI wonder why trixy did not change into an alacorn. I know she got the powers of an alacorn but why did her physical form stay the same?
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She not get the power of three tribes
1 likeShe got power
Not enough time
0 likesU do know the summer sun celebs took only started after Celestia banish Luna cuz Luna has been banished about a thousand years and according to twilight the first summer sun celebration we saw in the first episode is the 1000th summer sun celebration so yeh
0 likesWait but didn’t Sombra come back again?
0 likesHe have wings when he was a kid it have wings
0 likesThe royal sister's are love in it
0 likesMist mane has the same kind of horns as king sombra
0 likesI think celestial and Luna we’re all without the corn even though there is no proof
0 likesDoesn't luna have a crush on sabra, what about that
0 likesThe sisters were born princesses
1 likeThis is canon, I don’t care what you say
0 likesSummer Sun celebration was made because nightmare moon was banished by celestia but how come luna was there?
0 likeswhy didn’t shadow go through the portal and look like a human why didn’t you think about that
0 likesNgl the intro was smooth
0 likesMe: starts up the video WHOO! Can't wait
5 likesAlso me: Is... Is that your Bats remix? That fits so well here!
If he is,if he was king,who would be his daughter and..is she still alive?..
0 likesWait wait why do you have to dig so deep into a kid show my man tell me why
0 likesUmm sawooth waves at the end you said his death but sombra came back to the crystal empire and canterlot and controlled evrypony
0 likesSawtooth:how sombra came to be..
16 likesAd:WONDER WOMANNNNNNN~
I think he’s right
0 likesThe alicorn sister is an alicorn since they was little
0 likesYou were right sawtooth
0 likesThe comics fiendship is magic tells his whole story, this is very wrong
0 likesI mean, the comics go into his backstory and how he was called to the darkness. That could have been some help for research.
3 likesSawtooth:SoMbRa iS nOt A nOrMaL uNiCoRn bruh heard of mistmane?
0 likesYour idea is genius
0 likesShadow pony's have a legend. The old 6.
0 likesMaybe he was not jealous but of the powers of Luna and celestia
0 likesI think you're wrong sawtooth. My theory is that Princess Platinum was indeed the daughter of the unicorn king, but I think sombra was actually platinum's older brother. My backstory is is that sombra was supposed to be the next unicorn king, but the crown skipped him, and went to his little sister. This made sombra very angry, so he set out to plan revenge; vowing that he would return more powerful than ever before. He found the crystal empire, stripped the crystal ponies of their magic, (taking wings and horns as well) and the rest is history. Drop a like if you agree.
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Probably. But that's just a theory! An MLP theory!
27 likesHmm wait
18 likesscar intensifies
BE PREPARED
Yeah but the crystal empire doesnt have pegasi or unicorns, so he couldnt get all three types of magic from there.
8 likesThat's not a theory. That's just a little fanfic you did.
3 likesThat's the dumbest theory I heard he never had a sister
0 likes@Ancent By that logic then everything in the video is also fanfiction
3 likes@Lost_Films32 not really no
0 likes@mothgirl™️ No. They added a 'brother' (Sombra and Platinum being siblings) into their 'theory' even though that idea/character/influence has no proof of existence in any MLP show nor comic in any relation to Sombra. That is already a fanfiction, even if they probably don't think so; it comes straight out of that person's creative mind, not by seeing the characters and/or background and connecting them. And that's the key. Existence and mention. A theory is supposed to try to add already existing things in literary/visual work together, like Sawtooths' theory of Sombra's possible wings by connecting the Alicorn amulets red-black colors, alicorn design and Sombra's very similiar palette and look. Its not limited just to visual things: Words too.
2 likesPlatinum being 'Unicorn Kings' sister doesn't make any sense. It was clearly said both in this video and the episode that Platinum's father was that king/her being his daughter. If you would change that to a sibling relationship its once again- a fanfiction. It makes no longer any sense in this theory. It has become your creative work. It's the same thing with Wattpad fanfictions shipping ponies who don't seem to have any relation or distorting it into whatever they want.
Self-made characters and/or influences and distortions, whatever they are, out of someone's (creative) mind, (Sombra's siblinghood) do not make a theory to try to solve things. It only creates a fanfiction. On the other hand, this video in my opinion does make good reasonable points that are candidates for being true. It connects existing bits together (which point to very similiar bits and results and yada yada) already done in the show and now it leads to 2 paths: Confirmed or Wrong.
Platinum again. Since she's mentioned in the show (more importantly in Equestria's history), she was an existing character. We obviously don't know what she looked like but that kind of special mentioning is enough proof and context. Apparently she's the daughter of the 'Unicorn King' (also mentioned in the same way) and this king could have been Sombra. Especially when- you connect (random) bits together like he did if you just watch the video-
-Sawtooth explains it all and I won't repeat that. Obviously he also said more than me in this video.
@Ancent now now. Don't start a fight. Everyone has their own opinion and we must respect that. 👍 And I do respect yours. It's good.
0 likes@Sophia Roseblack Didn't intend to start a fight. I guess I agree.
1 like@Lost_Films32 yep
0 likes@Lost_Films32 wait you still watch that stuff
0 likes@Lost_Films32 it kinda is childish though
0 likes@Lost_Films32 lion king
0 likesIm not trying to be mean I guess it's not my taste
0 likesGood golly the theory are awesome
0 likesFirst thing here crystal empire’s citizens don’t even have wings or horns they all are earth ponies second of all sombra never had a sister third thing sorry sawtooth but i dint even think he ever had a daughter and i think he was created by grogar as he knew the way how to bring him back to life
0 likesHere how it goes
0 likesOnce upon a time grogar thought that he will need someone to get magic from all three tribes to make him powerful enough as he was banished by gusty the great and he needed to get out so he got the shadow and used a spell to make a evil sinister unicorn which only looked like a unicorn so its easier to make the tribes manipulated then he sent him on the quest and told him about the most magical land of all times ‘ the crystal empire ‘ but he forgot to tell him to get only magic from the three tribes so sombra took over a empire of only earth ponies and had no problems with it he thought magic of the ponies and crystals then as he failed and was destroyed he was back to his shadow form from which grogar found him then the sisters trapped him in the ice and when they did so grogar got alerted knowing he had no power he waited for a thousand years and brought back the empire and sombra as he didn’t knew that that empire had only earth ponies sombra when came back also was defeated then in the end of the end be got sombra back faster as he was free then sombra refused to join forces with his very own founder because he was over realmed by power of the empire and fortunately for us he was defeated and that was the end of king sombra and this actually matches the best with the cannon
2 likes@•H H• gasp
0 likes@•H H• No, your is much weirder than Sawtooth. Second, Crystal Ponies was different from earth Ponies, it was evidence by their eyes and even Princess Celestial said their empires was very ancient and much older than the existant of Equestria itself. Thirdly, it was actually weird that you proposed that Grogar told him to go to Crystal Empire, yeas it was magical but they only had crystal ponies which is a seperated ponies tribe that have built their civilization much earlier, it would make much more sense if that was the first place to started but you relies on Grogar "forgot" which don't male any sense. Fourthly, you theories relies heavily to "forgot" like Grogar forgot to tell him to get magic from the three ponies tribe. Fifthly, King Sombra lore clearly said he rule the Crystal Empire with iron fist and cause many Crystal Ponies suffered, when the twin Alicorn came and defeated him the entire empire dissapeared with him which you haven't explained. Sixthly, in the final season, The Beginning of the End - Part 1, Sombra is restored by Grogar to join him in an alliance with other villains so they can conquer Equestria together and defeat Twilight and her friends once and for all. However, Sombra tries to take over Equestria by himself and, despite being able to destroy the Tree of Harmony and the Elements of Harmony and conquer both Ponyville and Canterlot, he is defeated again by the Mane Six. A that time, he doesn't recognized nor shocked with appearance of Grogar, he just believe that he didn't need anyone help. Seventhly, Grogar and Gusty the Great was ancient tale that exist long before the three tribe, it was clearly said the very beggining and King Sombra rule Crystal Empire during the existence of Equestria which the time span between the arrival of King Sombra and Grogar was far too long, in fact even Princess Celestial didn't know anything about Grogar and Gusty the Great but she know very well about King Sombra except his origin. Eightly, create an evil sinister unicorn ? That is far to vague and how did Grogar even created him, using whose magic when he was defeated by Gusty the Great, sealed and his magic was sealed alongside his bell which were sealed with no power ? If he was still able to created Sombra after his defeated and seal, why he didn't go anyfurther than Sombra. Beside the Grogar defeat at the hand of Gusty the Great was far a vague story and we didn't anything about both of them. Your theories relies on imagination. Personally Sawtooth theory make much more sense. Beside i prefer his theories than even the comic book cause i feel it was weird that he easily embrace the Umbra's fate just by meeting his so-called Umbras mother and leave Radiant Hope without even a second thought. It also leave a room about who is his father and how on earth he have a sex a with the Umbras which supposedly sealed under the Crystal Empire and why it was sealed under the Crystal Empire ? Shouldn't they move or sealed it on a different place cause it was to dangerous ? It also created a whole different question who is the Umbras and where did they came from. Beside, the Umbras theories relies heavily on the Stygian and Pony of Shadow and King Sombra could turn to shadow. There were no evidence of it's existence throughout the canon material. Even the comic that produced the comic book was indenpendence from Hasbro and the comic was created as Hasbro decided to keep his origin a mysterious. There also leave a question on how King Sombra turn Princess Amore to Black Crystal Statue and break him and if thatw as Umburm magic, then why he didn't use against Spike. There also this " the umbrum army underground and scatters the fragments of Amore's statue across the world so she cannot be restored in time to stop him" which the comic didn't deal. Finaly, in the FIENDship is Magic Issue 1, it was very clear that Twillight and Cadance read King Sombra's diary but it was started with how he was found and named and ended with Sombra knowing his defeat by Celestia and Luna is imminent, he enacts a terrible curse, and how Radiant Hope is forced to watch as her home vanishes. It was based on a book they found underneath of the Crystal Palace. So, who write the diary and what is the fate of Radiant Hope ? What does that red crystal have to do with the Umbrum? What really happened between the Crystal Ponies and the Shadow Ponies? In fact in the continuation of the comic Friendship is Magic Issue 37# Radiant Hope leave Equestria and go into the world of Umbrum and learn everything about them and return to invade Equestria and Crystal Empire, she also revived back Sombra and it end with how Twillight defeat her and she and Sombra became a good and they redemmed themselve by traveling the world to find the fragment of Princess Amore that scattered across the world and this is clearly doesn't work with the final season. Hasbro also clearly ignored the comic story line. Of course there are those who proposed a theories to reconciled the canon storyline with the comic.
1 likeNo .
0 likes@Mohd Ghazali i don’t think that he forgot i think now that i am just gonna say that neither me nor u make any sense and only sawtooth does OK
1 like@•H H• lol
0 likes@Sophia Roseblack But Mat pat does it the best!
0 likesto be honest I cinda feel bad for sambra
0 likesWho is king Sombra‘s parents do a video of it
0 likesIt is like you are a mlp pro
0 likesYou are absolutely wrong what you want the king Jivan fighting organs shadow in winter thank u broke dice impel down in the river hand Shadow and Shadow joint him that's how we became
0 likes6:09 - This is a V&H soundtrack? D'you play?
1 like(sorry, off topic, I know - But I love your videos as always)
What happened to his daughter?
0 likesyou are not right if he was baneshed from eqestria he would have not have tookn over canterlot
1 likeIf this isn't cannon it should be
0 likes0:38 Now you're gonna post a halloween song now??
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i posted the bats remix like, 5 years ago!
19 likes@Sawtooth Waves Welp, mind as well check it out. Also, nice video!! Loved it!!!
10 likes@Sawtooth Waves Hi, I really liked the theory, it was aswome, but I think, that on the summer sun celebration, when he got the magic, he got corrupted, because remember season 4 premiere, Zecora asks Twilight to use alicorn magic, and she uses Sombra "Dark" magic.
7 likesThat's how Luna, and Celestia can turn into Nightmare Moon and Daybreaker, becuase the acess to all their alicorn magic.
Hope you read this!!
King Sombra is not the king of the unicorn tribe
1 likeMaybe he’s a different ethnicity, that’s why his horn is different, like in the mist mane episodes, the Asian ponies had curved horns
0 likesBut then who is his daughter
1 like“Well, until a ChAos god turned into a dead goat...”
6 likesdeathmatch: King Sombra vs Shadow the hedgehog.
0 likesWhat if he has wings under that red cape
0 likesWait if sounds has a daughter what happened to her
0 likesHis horn is kind of like changnglings horn
0 likesSawtooth, I just can't believe that we're never gonna see sombra again and redeemed this time too 😭😭😢😢
4 likes6:40 - 6:46 iron hoof
1 likeWhere did he get so tall and long hair from and why smaller too and the robe
0 likesSombra doesn't have a cutie mark
0 likesHALLOWEEN SPECIAL!!!!
0 likesWait but I have a question. If to be an alicorns means get a lot of magic, when all the princess lost their magic in the Tirek episode, how come they didn't become unicorns/pegasi?
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Perhaps because they gave it willingly to Twilight?
0 likesI feel like if alicorns give their magic willingly or get taken from them, their physical features stay. But if they become so horrible they are not deserving of being royalty, they lose either their horn, wings, or both.
1 like@cyanity101 ohhh :O I never thought of that!
1 like@Caroline L AbbottBut then tirek steals it
0 likes@Mlp Lost Content Again Twilight gave it willingly to save her friends.
0 likes@cyanity101 I like that. Sounds good to me.
0 likesThat was bothering me too. I just don’t think cozy glow was a true Alicorn, since Luna and Celestia did not revert back to their original forms after being hit by grogar’s bell and cozy glow did. I think she just got a lot more powerful. We also do not know if it was the tribes magic or Grogar’s that made cozy glow into a temporary Alicorn. Oh this is becoming a bit of rant, but yeah, that’s what I think..
1 like@Esther J I had forgotten that. Good point about Grogar's bell.
0 likeswasnt the first summer sun celebration after celestia banished luna to the moon?
0 likeswhat about he's horn?
0 likes😭😭😭😭😭😭😭THIS WAS SO SADDD
0 likesSombra
1 likeMore like
Simba 🤪
in the crusaders of the lost Mark, Applejack's said to Apple Bloom: if mom and dad wer here they would be proud. so please can you do a video on that
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A video of what? 20 minutes of the Apple parents being proud? Now that I think about it, I would watch it. Applebloom deserves it.
0 likesas mutch as i think of allacorns this story is crushing my dream a little help luna hahahhahahaha
0 likesIn the videos on YouTube Slumbra is an alkorn is a little pony.
0 likesOne question: so bra has a shadowy mane. Why???????
0 likesWait we can join chrysalis with this
0 likeswhen i saw the post i was like omg yes lets see what he thinks now
8 likesIt make sense he's a king it needs wings
0 likesBut he dident die lol he was freed by grogal the goat man idk his name but he dident become stone so is he still alive in the new gen??
0 likesDark magic corrupted zombra
0 likesWhat about his cutie mark
1 likeBUT BUT BUTTTTTTT I IMAGINE HE IS FROM THE SAME AREA AS MISTMANE CAUSE OF THE CURVED HORN
0 likesAm I wrong that in another video you said the sisters came from another civilization? heh Sorry I dont watch these videos in order
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thoughts have since changed, no evidence of an alicorn civilization, i think the sisters come from humble origins.
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Oh thank you for clarifying that
0 likesI love your intro
0 likesThey born with horns and wings .....
0 likes"I'll give it to ya if ya take off you're amulet"
4 likes"..."
"Ugh, whatever; just give me the apple"
Moral of the story:
Anything for apples
Dude your voice is so enrapturing and soft it's soothing :D
Who was King bullion?
0 likesThis is like a movie
0 likesPls do for celestias and lunas parents
0 likesLuna is Sambra's best friend
0 likesSawmooth waves solves another mysteries
10 likesHasbro "You know too much"
I think you should know, sombras Story is already known.
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It exist a hole Comic about it.
0 likesSOOOOOO NICE I LOVE MY LITTLE PONY
0 likesthe sun celebration was on the deafest of nightmare moon it was a new celebration I this it was just a celebration of they were crowed
0 likesWho was sombra's parents
0 likes2:38 I like how quick you were to turn around, when you argued against the IDW comics for Sombra's Umbrum origins, and then used a diffrerent issue of the same IDW comics, to try to prove why!
3 likesAlso, trying to put Luna's transformation into NM as proof of another way of becoming an alicorn holds no water, as she was an alicorn to begin with!
I think your right sawtooth
0 likesthe intro reminded me of scooby doo
0 likesOr a summer and Alcorn he has that look bitch that metal on his body he has like little wings but like he has big wings but they just can’t see them but he’s obviously probably not there’s no boy pony our coats
0 likesI think that you are very very right I mean King COBOL into king Samra
1 likeLast time I was this early sombra still had wings
3 likesAnd who is his daughter?
0 likesCan u do a twivine sparkle episode and her origin please
0 likeshello sawtooth as a fello brony I wanna give you a video idea becuase I wanna see what you think is'nt it wierd that sombra and luna both have a bit of control over nightmares I realised this and wanted to let it know to you I know you might not read this but I hope some peaple read this and start theorising
0 likeshey you forgot queen chrysalis she is also a alicorn.
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She is not an alicorn. She's not recognized as one, either, as she's not a pony.
0 likesOmg yessssssss finally I been waiting for this lol 😂😁
7 likesthat is kind of sad):
1 likeSo intresting story
0 likesi think hes just a spirit really
0 likesIs sombra Candace’s father?
0 likesking sombra the monster pony with monster slit eyes and fangs
0 likesSo there was a 5th alicorn
0 likeshm, 666k views? Seems fitting for king sombra
0 likesFunny I Love Your Work
0 likesI have a better theory: the comic " siege of the crystal empire " happened in between mlp and twilight in the last episode
4 likesit makes wayyyyyy more sense than this
why you killin synannax's vibe sawtooth
1 likeI had a crush on him when i was younger-
0 likesKing cobalt... to king sombra.. Princess platnium. Rarity is my suspicion. I think that rarity is the daughter of King Cobalt! Why was sbe played as princess plantium?? I will also make a maybe ugly pic but a drawing of rarity mom and pla make a vid where that drawing and sombr- i mean cobalt met and had a daughtter rarity and her long lost brother
0 likesT R A G I C
0 likesWhat about the comic's?
8 likesOh wait they dont apply with the show...
That makes a lot of scene
0 likesBut can you do reforming samra
0 likesSombra changes in the beautiful
0 likesI think your right.
0 likesLoveee the new introoo
4 likesSombra is shadow and shadow is prinses luna s friend
0 likesWhat about Hope?
0 likesCutie transform 5:34
0 likes8:47
bro now im mad at celestia and luna
0 likes3:20 snooty sombra activated
6 likesI did not know king sombras daghter is rarity
0 likesso thats what the gems for
0 likesI know you won’t reply but so is it a disharmony element or just a gem with sombras magic
0 likesKing sobra didnt die in seseon 9 king sombra was back
0 likes3:06, doesn’t that ‘shadow’ look like the Alicorn Amulet—?
3 likesI think king sombra ia a shadow sorces because her curved horn
0 likessawtooth boy you sure like apples
0 likesQueen Platinum is Rarity huh what if Rarity was his daughter
0 likesWHY HAVE YOU NOT MADE A VIDEO ABOUT WHY FUTURE EQUESTRIA DOESN'T HAVE CUTIE MARKS?!
0 likesKing Sombra is just like a vampire. He has fangs!
0 likesInteresting. I could see that happening.
0 likesI have an oc, (not a pony) named King Cobalt .__.
10 likeswait doesn't sombra mean shadow in spanish
0 likesI am Samprada
0 likesI have a question
Does king Sombra have a cutiemark??
"how king sombra came to be"
11 likesAd plays
me: DAMMIT
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Yep, those annoying ads can bring out the villain in you.
0 likesim sad, not bc of the video its bc if you look you get a good bit of dislikes so yaaaaa its sad i say sorry i did nothing but o well
0 likeswhy are your eyes red? i thought they were blue, unless... YOU HAVE THE ALICORN AMULET, THE REAL ONE
0 likesI know I'm watching this in 2022 no Sunny is here but I like the old My Little Pony series better and that's all
0 likesGrrr. Sawtooth please read the comics.
0 likesSawtooth... You’ve made your video, you have a life time supply of apples. Please take of the amulet Buddy.
3 likesbut what about his wife he had a kid soo...What happened to them?
0 likesI think there was a another wizard but it doesn't make any sense
0 likesyou my fav rit youtuber 😀 :)
0 likes1:04 lol, just making this so I can watch the videos, everyone else can use it, too. 😂
0 likes0:01 Ohhhhh the Bats remix
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yep!!! it set the tone perfectly ^^
30 likesbats pog
9 likesOH THAT'S WHAT IT IS
4 likesWow i need to listen to it again i didn't recognize it at all
5 likesThe likes are going FAST
4 likesI keep reloading and the likes are coming like crazy-
5 likesI’m not the only one who notices:D
4 likesWhat a Coincidence I'm watching this on the same day it was posted October 23rd
0 likes😮😮. How sombra Lost. His wings
1 likeBut where’s his cutie mark? .-. We have never saw his mark- Am I right? Or not? It’s just wierd that he has the jacket or what it calls- I’m wondering what it will look like- (Think about it)
0 likesAnd he is the little brother of princess larynx.
0 likesI wished the show could of talked about cadence's mom princess amore
3 likesI think sawtooth is right
0 likesWait there is death so there should be a grim ripper i saw in Ben ten that a crystal palace s the backup drive for a entire planet so i think grim reaper must heve something' like that
0 likesThere is book that has his origins....
1 likeI'm not trying to be mean XDDDD
Sombra is as old as celestia
0 likesIs it just me or does King Cobalt look like Gaston from beauty and the beast? Like if you agree.
3 likesLook at celestia’s cutie mark it look a lot like the same sun simbule in we’re rapunzel comes from
0 likesUhm you okay_? Why you looked different…? But you looked pretty like a vampire…
0 likesit remands me of how sunny beceme a alicorn
0 likesWrong i think a bit because The princesses the night and sun was born whis wings and horns!
1 likeThe theory my friend had is that King Sombra is a changeling that ruled the empire with Crystalis and then Cadance took over and Sombra was banished and it made Queen Crystalis so mad she turned on the ponies for taking away her husband and kingdom. Now this is what we believe and it's just a theory she made (Okay I don't remember if this is exactly how she said it but it's something like that)
3 likesAnd he don't have a daughter🤦🤦
0 likesYolo i just watch these and learn things abt my little pony 💅💅💀💀
0 likesI wonder why he did that 😱😱😱😱
0 likesKING COBALT WAS AN ALACORN! JUST LOOK 3:31!
0 likeswell until a chaos god larping as a dead goat brought him back so he can troll his friends
6 likesMe: cant breath from laughing-
Its an fanfiction more than a theory tbh
0 likesYou make a lot of sense
0 likesAh a monster pony.
0 likeswhy he wants to take back whats hes: he born another pony but it was a alicorn for the next episode in netflix my little pony make you mark that alicorn makes hes dad proud by pulling away the crystals agian!
0 likesMost of villians: reformed
8 likesSome of villians: planing to reform
Meanwhile:
King sombra: dead
King sambra is a umbrum!
0 likesofficial comics: 🙂🔫
3 likesDon’t tell me that Rarity is sombra’s daughter
0 likesi love this channel brony no-......sawthooth waves ....
0 likesThis looks like a really good theory! But, I created a story on Wattpatt about when sombra battled a pony named General Pico. quote: "I will put you back toghether. always" This means that Sombra is alive!
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Ooooo can i- have a a link plz?
0 likes🙄 So the comics aren't canon until the 11th season was released huh?
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No offense... but full offense
0 likesI prefer the comic interpretation.
I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT
0 likesI love it
0 likeshow princess Luna and her sister parts are king and queen?
0 likesMe: I thought this was a video not a movie eh idc I luv it
3 likesI Think your right :)
0 likesJust like the gym Steven Universe King Sombra got corrupted pain and suffering he's horn sturgeon point shishu Steeps sharpened then as teeth sharpened when will rat I mean well
0 likesdo eneyone know that he have a wife and his wife is the queen
0 likesKing sombra is luna's dad
0 likessince when did Sawtooth Waves make asmr
4 likesBut I do not understand, in fanfics, isn’t Sombra in love with Celestia?
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In fanfics, yes. But in canon, nope.
1 likeOh now I get it thx reese
1 likeIf he loves her why he has fighted her and she done everything to defeate him?
0 likesI didn,t even knew about this dude
0 likesAyo nice vampire fruit bat costume- (I hope it's a costume)
0 likesHe looks like a changeling
0 likesHe’s so unknown. And his performance in Season 9 was so...meh.
5 likesSombrero couldn't die anyway, because sombra is NOT solid. He turns into shadow, too
0 likesNot to be sexist but, is it possible that make ponies cannot become alicorns? We have seen none. Not even in the graphic novels or books.
0 likeswhat happend to the princess aka the daughter of king cobalt?
0 likesHmm what about an episode where discord or the three villans come back and take over you channel for a few days but discord gets a week cause you know he's a good draconaquist and then have fluttershy take care of discord and Celestia and Luna take care of the V3
0 likesUmm, i might be stupid but wouldn’t there be no summer sun celebration if Luna hadn’t been banished yet? Since they created the celebration to mark nightmare moon’s defeat so I’m not sure where sombra would get his magic from. I don’t think Luna wasn’t there when sombra first appeared since she was there when they defeated him.
3 likesYes you're right
0 likesWhat is sombra's cuite mark??
0 likesmaybe in his look know maybe he hides his wings and his red coat thing idk whats its called but why do i watch it when i gte scared-_-
0 likesPrinses luna is shadow's vary oldest friend
0 likesWhy doesn't Sombra have a cutie mark, and why does his mane still flow. Why does some unicorns like Mistmanes mane flow but all alicorns manes flow but cozy glows and Cadences Doesn't.
3 likesYou are appleloosas king?
0 likes6:41 iron hoof
0 likesWhen sawtooth fakes death : * pretends to die from poison. Me: * rolls up in a ball and starts crying * Sawtooth : Uhhhhh I’m still alive it was a joke. Me : does it for 10 strait days *. I’m saying this so he doesn’t fake death
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This is my meme bc I wanna :^
0 likesRarity is his Daughter
0 likesIve been waiting for this ahhh!
3 likesBut wat about the comis ? We get there a little of his background
0 likesTheres a book about this ......but its different
0 likeswait do you think season 9 is the last season in MLP
0 likesKing S- OOME - bra not king s-u-mbra just saying :)))
0 likesMlp: making kid shows
5 likesSawtooth waves: gets more deep in backstory
Mlp: ... we didn’t know any of this
I like the theory
0 likesOMG WHEN YOU SAID CHARLOTTE IT REMINDED ME OF MY BFF BUT I CANT SEE HER CUS COVID
0 likesHeadcanon accepted
0 likesHmm the name,king sombra, the word king
0 likes6:40
3 likesDon't you mean "iron hoof"?
I love all your story and i dont even know what i am
0 likesWhat if cadance is sombra's duaghter i mean she is the ruler of the empire and her parents are un-none so may sombra is her dad
0 likesSawtooth ! great he is corrupted 🙁😔😒 good thing me and my friend are female and male alicorns i am ready sawtooth don't worry we will fix this problem don't worry we are coming to turn you in your normal form 🦄🦄
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Yeah
0 likesCan king Sombrero be rufund
0 likesPLEASE do a new video about Chrysalis if shes an type of alicorn or a fight
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Hi
1 likeI think this about Chrisalys
The first, thing that we hear of Queen Chrisalys, is what Cadence says
"She's a changeling. She takes the form of somepony you love and gains power by feeding off your love for them."
She has very intresting powers:
Mind contrlot (to Shining armor)
Turn into any pony or creature
Create copies of ponies
Blast magic
Levitate
Love draining
Changelings are a race this is clear and Chrisalys creates changelings with eggs
Chrisalys was a pony princess
How??
Well, let's remember this story:
" Apparently, some prince a long time ago whipped up this recipe and gave it to this princess he liked. He meant it to be a love potion, but things didn't turn out so well.
Well, there's something here about a dragon, the kingdom falling, chaos reigning... Okay, apparently it was all because the prince and princess were so lost in each other's eyes that they couldn't perform their royal duties. "
Ok, so I think that Chrisalys, was the princess, and dragons attacked the kingdom, she was forced to hide, when she went out she found the prince dead, so she turned into her Nightmare version, but she was desesperated to get love because of the poison she had, she went, and found, some ponies, and with a spell drained their love.
With time she could not survive without love.
She had to conquer Equestria, but she would need help.
She learned how to shapeshift, and then created the first changeling, then she created a whole army.
She tried to attack Equestria but Celestia defeated her.
With time Chrisalys forgot her origin.
Probably Chrisalys castle, was her castle as an alicorn
Yes it is very crazy, and probably not true
@Mlp Lost Content Good theory But i wanna Say i love Changelings But Im obses with Queen Chrysalis and what if King Sombra will fight her for the Crystal Empire
1 likeI am with sumbra was good 😖😭😭😭😭😭😭
0 likesWhat about Chrislys (sorry if spelled wrong )?
0 likesHe came back but got stop again by Twilight sparkle and her friends
0 likesI think your pony was girl but wrong boy is a boy is hard to know they.re hair looks like girls even the boys
1 likeThat intro music was so funky :D
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>:D my remix of Stop the Bats! glad you like it
4 likesI went and listened to it, it’s awesome!!!
2 likesyou're right
0 likesI don't think he's die
0 likesOh no sawtooth become an evil dictator.
0 likesI totally agree
0 likesWhen I saw the notification I knew I had to watch this video lol 😂😁
3 likesSassy mother sassy daughter
0 likesYes you are correct
0 likesHow is the King Sobra's cutie mark ?????
0 likes(Sorry for my bad inglis, im portugues)
Am I tye only one who finds King Sombra hot🏃♂️
0 likesKing Sombra never had wings
5 likesSo I don’t get what you’re trying to say
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Whatch this video if you want to know why he thinks Sombra had wings https://youtu.be/YT04rUedDhM
2 likesOh, sorry!
0 likesI didn't know that such brainless doorknobs of humans existed!
My mistake
They said it was for kids they said
0 likesDeath:how ya like that
Mlp:I like it time to make a death on screen
Wait are you actually a horse or a unicorn or a Alcorn well that doesn’t make sense how
0 likesI know I'm late but isn't a Canon that the alicorn sisters were born alicorns just saying...
0 likesI luv ur vids
How kings sombra came to be....
0 likes:Candy ad:
Me: so pinkie pie?
I was actually studying and I have a test tomorrow but nahhh I need to watch this FYI where I live it's 10:12 o clock and I've been studying since 3 o clock with a 1 hour break.... Geez I feel better about this test
5 likesPlz G5 PUT KING SOMBRA MORE
0 likesWrong. He just got mad becose Celestia trapped luna in the moon
0 likesI think your right
0 likesI think your right
0 likeso0o I’m early for once yay!
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Me too
2 likesSame kinda
2 likesI'm late 😂
1 likeAnd im close enough 🤣😅😅😅
0 likesI agree 👍
0 likeswhat is king sombra 's cuty mark
0 likesBut no boys has been a alercorn?
0 likesSomething dosent add up not sure it's like some things missing
1 likeSawtooth: "How King Sombra Came To Be:"
4 likesYoutube: *Ads*
Me: "Cool Story Bro."
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Yes one of best parts when king somber came from adds :D
0 likes4:02 the Unicorn King can't be Sombra. In the novel, The Journal of the Two Sister's, it says that King Bullion is the Unicorn King and that Princess Platinum is his daughter, Sombra isn't mentioned in the book at all.
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But what if his name wasn't always Sombra and before that he was King Bullion
0 likes@Victoria Crudup you have to look at the time lines as well. It doesn't add up.
0 likesGreat little clip
0 likesTell me a video where is Sombra
0 likesYou forget Candance
0 likesBecause somebra had no ear
0 likesDude that's cold.
0 likesi think your right
0 likesI don't think this theory is right.
0 likesI miss your old background
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Me too
0 likesI think that king somra was an nice guy intel he became an monster
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I love your
0 likesI love you channel
0 likesi think your right
0 likeswait wait wait is cozy glow the first alicorn kid?????????? :0
0 likesWho married Sombra
0 likesI just got out of school and you uploaded! WOOHOO!
3 likesI like the music sawtooth waves
0 likesDamn why won't anyone read the comics ? :(
0 likeshe ate all your apples
0 likeshow cold rarity be king sombras daugter
0 likesOk, so headcanon- chrysalis was the original ruler of the crystal ponies and the changelings. Sombra over threw her.
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Nah.
1 likeThis should be a epesod
0 likesExcuse Me Tooth You Mean Ponies?!
0 likesCelestia and luna were born alicorns
0 likesI think luna IN LOVEEEEE
0 likesOn the future king sombra love. Luna and have a baby so what else bring it to be bad just because he's jealous the same it he can destroy the unit the beautiful land the the crystal empire is still notice of hearing sombra to crystal love win twilight in his friend disappear king sombra where did you went 🤔🤔🤔🤔
0 likesCan you make video about Queen chrysalis life
0 likessombra did't have a cutie mark?
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Nope. He never had a cutie mark.
0 likesNow that make sense
0 likeshmmmmmm this could be interesting 🤔
3 likesSo that's why his name is king zombra
0 likesWhat if King Sombra was Celestia and lona father
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Not even remotely possible, as the sisters are MUCH older than him.
0 likesI love 💕 your idea of
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Sombra
0 likesBoy are u saying sombras daughter is rarity!?
0 likesSaw"tooth" waves Wow Really Showing The Tooth Part Of Youre Name Now Bud
6 likesNO SAMBRA
0 likesKING SIMBA
{this isn't a serious comment don't come attack me plz}
NOT REALLY DUDE.HE WAS BORN OF CREATORS OF DARKNESS TO SNEAK INTO EQUESTRIA. HE IS IBRUM AND THERE IS A SPECIES.READ The comics for goodness sake
0 likesAGHHH YES!
0 likesIRON FIST!
0 likescoughs in alicorn oc
3 likeswhat about princess cadence
0 likesHave you ever thought about a face reveal
0 likesYes you are right
0 likesAhhh monster gasp.
0 likesBruh you’re so smart HOW!?!?!
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Oh please you didn’t watch it yet
2 likes@Chastox lol you’re right but so far it’s pretty big brain
0 likesUmm 🤔 I think is have a only Five alicorns the first one is Celeste second Luna third cadence fourth is twight light firth is furry heart I think is it, what about you the one who say to me who the new alicorn?
0 likesKING
1 like!theory! The Student Sixs May be Letting a new magic be made the magic of Connection and the Student Sixs May soon be „connecting“ all Spieces in the my Little Pony universe
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Well no that didnt happen 😃
0 likesThere a video about sombra history
1 likeThis should be a movie!! :00
3 likesKing sombre is not the dad of rarity
0 likesMe (gives 10000000 apples)you happy bat pony
0 likesHe is not an alecorne or he was not a alecorne
1 likeSorry about him breburn.
0 likesWhy everyone ships Luna+Sommbra???
3 likesThey are actually.... have to hate each other....
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Please bring back the days when MLP it was a kids movie and not a big ass fandom
0 likes@kyu0 XD
0 likes@Stella Moonshine THe GUd oL’ DaYYzzzZ
0 likesThe erth pony leader is a erth pony and the pegasus leader is a pegasus and the unicorn leader is a alicorn?
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Change your mind
0 likesSorry about him breburn.
0 likesThe comic book😑
1 likeWhat happend to princess platinum -
0 likesWhy is rarity like sombras child
0 likeshow did you do it
0 likesI tink sombra wanet to be a king but prenses luna and prenses elstia kome and take his plase and the shado kame and tok his Mained 😊
0 likesits wierd mlp have to make a movie of king zombra its creepy
1 likeI edit the comment so when im early i just say something random and edit it to something thats worth people's time.
3 likesYou are wrong it’s not sombra on the gem it’s celestias sister or brother which ar both allicorns
0 likesso staliconrs excist SHINING ARMOR ANYONE
0 likesSawooth wave I have a douth why Equastria girls look like my little pony
0 likesWho is Princess Celestias mam and dad
0 likesMe: I’m early!
4 likesThe comments, views and likes: well yes but actually no...
Good idea
0 likesCelestia and Luna had a crash on king sombra ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
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They didn't.
0 likesU are so right
0 likesking sombra the worst pony ever
0 likesHey can you do like a theory on what Rarity's "last name" is? Because:
3 likesTrixie | Lulamoon
Twilight | Sparkle
Luster | Dawn
Rarity | ???
Just wonderin :P
So sad
1 likebut who is his wife
0 likesOmg that was so cold omg I loved that omg sorr6 but that was sooo cool!
0 likesKing Sombra is not dead
0 likesyes early for once
7 likesAlright heres some more apples
0 likes🍎 🍏 🍎 🍏 🍎
Oh you became corupted.
0 likesI lean towards the theory that he was the one that created the amulet in the first place like an mlp Sauron, with with his thing for crystals he would have been able to infuse his dark power into it, remember how it slowly drove Trixie more and more power hungry? So to me that sounds just as plausible as the alicorn angle
1 likePretty accurate that explains hid love for crystals as well as power
1 likeKing Cobalt (visually) reminds me of the alternate version of Sombra seen in the animated short ”Reflections” by RobinRain
0 likesinteresting take on Sombras origen story but I cant help too think of another animation regarding this topic 🤔
”The tale of One shadow”
Thank you so very much for this video I was sooo curious about King Zombra and about his past 🤔
0 likesThe thing is, when Sombra was reintroduced in the season 9, I thought he was going to be this serious villain. But so many things turned me off from him. First his voice was too comically high born rich nobility sounding and second is he felt like a joke for the most part, when he was introduced in season 3, he felt truly menacing and scary. But I felt like his role in Season 9 wasn't that, I felt like, that even though he did those things he did, he wasn't the real threat. He felt like some comical rich guy type villain, you know, the type of people who think because their rich or of a high standing, they can be mean, treat people terribly then want things handed to them on a silver platter, plus the type that are too pompous, self-centered, and arrogant that they end up losing, because they are?
0 likesHe just felt too much of a joke to me. If he was voiced by Keith David and was much more serious/menacing, I feel like it will match him perfectly.
What if the way his horn looked was because the amount of magic he taken was to much straining him. And because of that the heat and force permanently scarred his horn.
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Wow
0 likesAaand they didn't even go for an intimidating enough voice for Sombra in the Season 9 premiere.
1 likeBut hey, all that matters apparently is that he's got personality now!
A...really weak personality but a personality and that's all we got.
Just read the MLP comics to supplement your pony lore. Since it's still ongoing (continuing as season 10), its canon isn't less legitimate. Season 10, episode 1 starts on issue 89.
2 likesI think I read a comic when I was younger. I can't remember all of it but he was in the crystal empire orphanage. I think at one point there was another Alicorn who he turned to stone and destroyed him.
0 likesBut going off of you idea If he does turn into an Alicorn then I think he inherited her power when he destroyed her.
So what you're suggesting is that King Bullion (that's the unicorn king's officially given name) was rendered an obsolete leader when Celestia and Luna starting moving the sun and moon, he ran off and left behind everyone he knew, including his daughter, transformed himself into a magical unicorn Darth Vader, came back a long time after to pull what Nightmare Moon would pull in the series premiere, Tireked the pony population to ascend to an alicorn, got that magic Bewitching Belled into a rock by Starswirl (prior to him banishing himself along with the other Pillars and the Pony of Shadows), put on a cape to hide the scars made from his wings getting magically plucked, found the Crystal Empire, deposed the queen (what did he do, shank her in her sleep?), ruled the Empire for a short time before Celestia and Luna came along and turned him into a umbrum, and everyone over the generations agreed to never again speak about who he was or the name he had as the benevolent unicorn king? Not even a peep (or a page in a book) about his fall from grace? Also, what's with him being a blank flank?
0 likesBy the way, the Summer Sun Celebration was only invented after Luna became Nightmare Moon and got banished to the inside of the moon, being a commemoration of her defeat by Celestia. Before then, they were just raising the sun and the moon without making a big deal out of it.
I like that theory but another one I thought of on the fly is if you look at Mistmane her horn and the horn of the unicorns around her have the same curved horn of Sombra and if you remember correctly the unicorn that was crowned empress said she took her power so maybe sombra was the unicorn that she took it from and he wanted power and took over the crystal empire. It’s just a guess though based on the horn look
0 likesSomber wasn’t really a unicorn or alicorn but more of a type of champion of fairy’s
1 likehonestly this is a interesting concept,i wonder how Platinum would have felt about it all
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to this day i still wonder about Princess Platinum.. was she Celestia and Lunas mother? did King Cobalt threaten to kill hes grand daughters? was she just as power hungry as her father? whatever happened to Princess Platinum?
0 likesAwesome story Sawtooth! 😎
0 likesbut wouldn't that make the wearer of the alicorn amulet also an alicorn? or would it somehow only change ur magical and physiological aspects
0 likesHe's relaxing what happened it's always been how it is
0 likesYou have to read the books he’s a earth pony and broke some christal and got his powers.
0 likesQuestion...if Sombra was Cobalt wouldnt that mean Sombra had a daughter? Like what would happen if his daughter lived to see her father turn completely evil
0 likesQuestion though: Why didnt Trixie become an Alicorn when she putted the amulet on?
0 likesI was waiting for him to say that at the end "well until a chaos god dead goat brought him back so he could troll his friends but you get the point" hahahahahahahha
0 likesIdk if this is true or anything but I’m pretty sure when Trixie was so jealous of twilight for learning magic and whatever she went to a random shop and bought a amulet that looked like that one that wizard dude had and she used it she had power to do anything but she didn’t get wings which I was wondering would sombra get wings if “HE” used it and not some commoner pony like trixie?!
0 likesHi I'm Harlow I think how the story happened was Sombra had no friends so he looked for some in cantaloupe he found Luna and became friends then when she was vanished to the moon Sombra became sad and mad he turnd in to King Sombra
0 likesI actually liked the way that you came up with this story origin of king sombra,sawtooth waves xxxx from bond m3,bro hoove!
0 likesThis sounds really good but wasn’t it confirmed that Luna and Celestia were Alicorns even BEFORE they ruled (basically born as them)
0 likesHere me out! What if Luna was cursed from his Magic!
0 likesWhen you think about it Sombra is probably won of the only ponies that died... I think
0 likesI don't think Sombra lost his wings. I think he is a unicorn, not alicorn.
0 likesI think fall of an empire summarises what happened to him perfectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtBqTFsiLxM
0 likesAs we can see from this channel. My little pony has so many secrets
0 likes4:35 how king zombra came to be
1 likeWait a minnute, Sawtooth Waves has red eyes and Sombra's alicorn thing so......................................... IS HE KING SOMBRA??!!
1 likeIf you see, nightmare moon's horn isn't bent but if you see the Mist mare or mane or something she also has a bent horn and everyone from that land, I think he was an emperor from that place or something
0 likesWait... If The Magic Did Not Return, What About The People Who had The Magic? Did They Lose Forever?
0 likesI love my little pony so these videos are explaining my questions
0 likesI always thought sombra was some sort of kirin
0 likesIts canon in the comics series that sombra was born and designed specifically to dethrone princess Amore and take over the crystal empire, he's a creature of shadows with no cutie mark and weak to the crystal heart's power
0 likesMy question is how tricksy didn’t get wings as she got her hoofs on the amulet?
0 likesBut how would he live so long?
0 likesThe rulers look like rarity, pinkie, and rainbow dash
1 likeAlso Trixie used the Alicorn amulet in the battle she had with twilight
One problem if sombra pushed celestial and luna wouldnt they say anything
0 likeswhat if celestia and luna became alicorns because the were able to move the sun and moon,and what if sombra has a moving mane because he was practicing dark magic and the more he was doing that the darker and more evil he becomes...
0 likesWhat you said Sombra has a Daughter, then who's Sombra's wife?
0 likesIm pretty sure summer sun celebration only came to be after luna's banishment. It's an awesome theory i quite like but i think the summer sun celebration part doesn't work out? Idk
0 likesDidn't the king ask luna to join him, be with him. Plus he didn't seem to know about Luna power
0 likesHey, wait, who was sombras daughter when he was King?
0 likesHasbro finding this channel be like: this man knows to much
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Prob will and just make em loose his memory so peeps are annoyed and won’t know about the secrets of the channel
0 likesYou should be a director for the show
0 likesYou know maybe he took the magic from the crystal ponies
0 likesThen why didn't trixie became an alicorn when she got the magic of sombra?
0 likesDoes Sombra have a cutie mark and if so what is it?
1 likeWait a minute, doesn't this contradict the Starswirl Alicorn Theory?
0 likesI think sombra is an evil unicon from a fantasy book and mysteriously came to life
0 likesMy other theory is that king sombra is a evil spirt from an dark world
(Like the underworld)
(Limbo dose not count)
Saw tooth could you do a theory on why the earth ponies have no horns or wings and stuff like that
0 likesi was thinkin about sunset shimmer's cutiemark, doesnt it partially have a yin-yang symbol in it? so shouldnt she partially be the symbol of unity of both the pony and the human world? i mean if so that must be the reason she hasnt bumped into her duplicate in the human world by now. right?
0 likesI love this headcanon but...
0 likeswhere is Radiant Hope ? ? !
I have an idea you should do a theory about how many clones are there
0 likesBut wasn't Star Swirl caught in limbo?
0 likesWhen you said "this is how king sombra came to be" a ultz ad started playing hahaha XD
0 likesMore like how did he became an Alicorn anyways?
0 likesThat pony I gave Estelle the power first which is also Luna sister to when Estelle how to spell it in love with him but she told her everything she became the queen that's why
1 like2:46-3:11 Uh, hold it right there, bub. "No umbrum creatures"? Uh, it's in what I call the Sombra Arc of the MLP FIENDship is Magic comic book series, that tells the whole back story of Sombra. How do I know? I watched all the videos for those MLP comics, that another YouTuber posted. Thank goodness they did, or I would have to actually BUY the copies myself, before knowing if I would actually LIKE them or not. Turns out I don't like the comics...I LOVE them!
0 likesAnd, uh, regarding the Unicorn King? I read in the book "Journal of the Two Sisters", that the unicorn king's name is King Bullion, so that knocks Sombra right out of the loop there.
Why Celestia can never be princess bc Estelle Celestia's bigger sis was trapped in the map that you can see in the castle because the pony you had made them to for 3 is a mortal so you didn't die Estelle had trapped him in the tree of Harmony
1 likesad story
0 likesSawtooth:*bites apple*
You thought you could be sneaky, but I recognized the intro to your bats remix. I’m on to you!!!
0 likesi kinda feel bad for king sombra . . .
0 likesIt fits just fine but it doesn't fit the changeling queens (forgot her name) story...? So I don't think that is right but it sounds totally believeable I will give you that. 🦄
0 likesHow king sombra came to be :
0 likesStop homelessness
What about the shadow that looks Zecora when the mane 6 all go to the castle of the two sisters
1 likeI know sombra was nice and then he went missing and then the princess was sad and then she forgot of him
0 likesIf pony’s need all 3 then why wasn’t Tirek an alicorn? He had all 3 and more.
0 likesthis might not be true but I agree with it
0 likeshold up wait a minute is sombra the princess long lost brother
0 likesSince the show is over now can Lauren Faust just. tell us these answers?
0 likesme who thinks some cut off his wings be like:
0 likesDid you know that sombra is shadow in spanish?
0 likeswhen celestia was young she looked like the girl that hangs out with the old pony u know wat i mean
0 likesmy sister and me think that queen crysisalis and king sombra are married and used to rule the crystal empire.
1 likeUhhh maybe the way he stole magic is the way they stole it in the last sunset holiday episode
0 likesSawtooth waves:how sombra came to be
0 likesAd:Will you adopt the cat?
Me:are you kidding me
what if nightmare moon and sombra were working together
0 likesThe two sisters celebrate the first summer sun celebration i want you to think about that sentence
0 likesThe only thing we’ll never be sure of is the name 😃
0 likesWait so if sombra had a child then, wheres the wife?
0 likesI think this is the true story
1 likegood story But how did star swirl know I think His daughter told star swirl because Princess Platinum thought he cared about power more than his daughter so when she heard about what happened she took her revenge by telling star swirl But that's what I think so yeah. no hate please
0 likesMe :the first changling queen looks like sombra
0 likesLets just say he cut them
0 likesDude I don't think male alicons ever existed in mlp(except in comic dub and fan made animations and series)
0 likesHow did you get wings
1 likeSawtooth: this is why the amu-
0 likesYoutube:*plays 10th anniversary shopee ad*
Me: ahh yes sombra wanted to buy stuff
When princesess became rulers of equestria, what hapened to Sombras daughter?
0 likesFlurry just looks like a psychopath
0 likesIs he like, the CEO of MLP and he’s just giving spoilers LOL
0 likesIf he knows about king cosmos and Queen Coleccion will know
0 likesWhat's sombras' cutie mark though?
1 likeWell Mist main has the same horn as sombra but shes nothing like him
0 likesI don't think celestia and luna became alicons that way we don't have any proof
0 likesI think king sobra was a king once and every Pegasus, unicorn, pony gavE him love and he got his magic from that than then a new queen/king took over than he got the alicorn amulet and it took away his nice form and his alicorn than he became a evil unicorn so yeahhhhh
0 likesPrince Midnight: Interesting theory changeling
0 likesi feel like sombra was where mistmane lived cuz dey ar kinda same both unicorns, flowy hair, and the curved horn
0 likesHi I’m a fan of your videos ❤️
0 likesthe beat maches the intro.
0 likesIts like hugo from kipo he changed his name and became evil and then turned back good watch it
0 likesNext you should do how flutter shy became a bat pony course we’ll what made the transformation happen
0 likessombra pretty, i love him.
0 likesi think Zombra is A corrupted Alicorn/Unicorn
0 likesThat's not how they became princesses
1 likeNo Discord told Sombra about the crystal empire
0 likesI never heard of the moon and sun sister parents?
0 likesSomething doesn’t add up, because celestia celebrated the first summer sun celebration AFTER Nightmare Moon’s defeat, to celebrate Nightmare moon’s defeat. So idrk.
0 likesRemember he is a unicorn he was a unicorn
0 likescan a Pegasus become an alicorn....
0 likesin rarity’s favorite legend
0 likesEveryone has a reason to be bad you can’t just be like
0 likes“Oh I’m ganna be bad for no reason!”
This made me think....a lot.
0 likesWhat If sombra was celestia and Lunas brother
0 likesWait what if his daughter changed her name and ruled the crystal empire yes I am talking about princess who rules the crystal empire I mean what if she got her mom's looks and stuff it would make sense because if sombra changed his name to sombra maybe his daughter did the same as her father but then again a father would never hurt his daughter well some dads do that in our world so maybe her father abused her and then left her before she ruled the crystal empire
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Hi present yashiro here during this time I didn't know how to spell her name and I still don't
0 likesI hate to break it to you but the summer sun celebration never happened before nightmare moon.
1 likeWere did the crestle empire come from
0 likesSo king sombra is basically Roleplay dream
0 likesA no queen given him power that's what i heard 🦄🦄
0 likesIf that’s that then who’s his wife?
0 likesOMG THIS SUCH A GOOD SUSPICION!!! 😱🤔😀
1 likehow king sombra came to be
0 likesad comes up
.... nice
Iron fist? Iron hoof!
0 likesIt all makes sense
0 likesyou are rightI know it because I fear I sit and I watched it over and over I watch My Little Pony over and over a thousand times I Got King Sombra and everyone right Thiriy
0 likesHe passed down the throne and toke over the cristly empire mabey
0 likesis a sad story poor king
0 likesmake a theory about why king sombra doesn't have a cutie mark.
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I feel like it’s similar to when tirek took magic when starswirl sucked it into the amulet it could have removed it
1 like@Kara Robinson makes sense.
1 likeBut if the king's magic was put in an amulet because he could create black crystals in season 9 and in season 3, (when he appears)?
I think it's more probable that he's another kind of creature, not a unicorn, maybe a minotaur since tirek (which is a minotaur) has no cutie mark.
I think luna wused to like sombra because there was a pony none as shadow and sombra can be a sadow pony
0 likes“how king sonbra came to be”
1 likeOMG STUPID AD
I was expecting the Comment Section to be riddled with Disagreements but I'm pleasantly suprised that it isn't, Nice!
0 likesI saw that kind of horn before
0 likesIm early
16 likesYou are really a nice fruit bat wait braburn give him his alicorn amulet DON'T GIVE IT TO TWILIGHT
0 likesHa me eralyy
44 likesAmazing
0 likesRead the Mlp villians story official.Theres every villain story
0 likeswait is rarity her daughter?
0 likesHave a horn with no indents
1 likeThere was 5 ail-icorns and now there is 5 ail-icorns again!
0 likesI'm so sorry but the journal of the2 sisters disproves this theory
0 likesI remember your alicorn amulet vid...
1 likeSimon lizotte board a normal Pony Dahmer was born whatever misguided
1 likeCan you do more videos about you is your favorite ship in mlp ? ☺️☺️😊
0 likesGood story and music
0 likesI you are most likely right because in the play The unicorns send there princess instead of there king. why do they send there princess instead of there king👸
0 likesIts so right its scary...
0 likesThis is what I think but rarity
0 likesIs not his daughter and I listen to your hole story
But according to this Mlp should of did another episode where that he turn good and but they didn’t
And you should work for Mlp
How are you so smart-
0 likesYES that happen
1 likewait al of your content add up AWSOME sign me up im subscribing
0 likesHE'S NOT AN ALICORN TRUST ME NEED! PLUS U WILL BE ALICORN IF U CREATE NEW POWER LIKE THE OTHER PRINCESSESSSSSSSS
0 likeshot take:grogar said he ruled cristal empire so ot prpved it or its just me beong stopid
0 likesMe: there’s so many people that are villains
1 likeI mean like sunshine shimmer
But she’s good now!
And starlight glimmer!
But she’s good now!
Nightmare moon
I mean she really haven’t changed...
She’s just a different carecter in mlp
Nightmare moon : am I a joke to you?!
Me: Urumqi maybe ya BIG FAT BULLY XD
Nightmare moon:>:0
Celestia: that’s right
Me: YA JUST GOT ROASTED NIGHT MARE MOON
OR SHOULD I SAY NIGHTMARE LOSER LOL 😂
did king sombra had a cuteimark?????
0 likesIs his daughter Ririty
0 likesIs..........is the neuretor wareing the ulacone ameulte😱🤯
0 likesOkay so this is not related at all to this video but i just wanted to say it cause i'm bored' So.. you keep saying alicorn's are a mix with other pony's....but unicorns and Pegasus are also... So here is what i mean.... Horns and earth pony's mixed..and wings and earth pony's mixed thus making unicorns and pegesus Then all three mixed together creating alicorn's ..So earth pony's are the start of everything..but what about Crystal pony's..I think Crystal's mixed with the earth pony's making Crystal (Pony's)..So what i'm saying here is that horses or earth pony's are the start and it was a world with just regular horses and..other creatures but those don't matter what i'm saying is that people take earth pony's for granted and fail to see the upmost importance of earth pony's Just saying-
0 likesAnd yes this was a joke no need for hate >:)
Sombra = umbra =uombralle
0 likesBoth of there hair also look the same
0 likesYou are saying that King is not only a king but really is a queen or a daughter at least and I noticed something they have a case number has had ever seen a pony in Townsville except really why is that
0 likesBut who is the mom of Princess Platinum
0 likesCelestia and Luna was born as a Ali corn
0 likessorry about him breburn
0 likesWhy do you have that amulet on?
0 likesyour right
0 likesKing Sombra yes and for get know one this literal
0 likesThis video became a year old yesterday
0 likesZombra is a sllicorn
0 likesSorry but summer sun celberiaton first happend when luna was banished
0 likesCutie mark < kawaii mark 😂
0 likessombras kina........😍
0 likesCool!
0 likesHmm this kinda doesn't make sense because there is no alicorn male
0 likesIt works
0 likesSo yo saying RARITY IS THE DAUGHTER OF KING SOMBRA!?
0 likesAnd also this makes sense
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NO? She's not even related to him.
0 likesYa is a good story
1 liketHe CoMic AaAaAaAaCcCcKkKk
0 likesyou knoe the like thig i forgot the name but she need the power of that love and its like a butterfly and zombra might be merryed sorry im still little but im in uear 1 so they might be the two lost wueen and king👸🏿🤴🏿
0 likesHaha blank flank blank flank🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes💜💜💜
1 likedoes he have a cutiemark
0 likesUmbreon does a t pose
0 likesIts been a year already??
0 likesking sombra is so hot.
0 likesI know that you are Krect
0 likesthe princess.princess Luna and her sister was princess or not how they Becoming a princess
0 likesOoO nice bedtime story
0 likesAlicorn amulet
0 likesThat’s not how aware we already know how it goes yeah that is how it goes but the king is not part of it so you are wrong the king and a part of it already know we saw the episode of that make your show so you arse are nuts right but the king is not part of it so they didn’t show us at the show never lie yeah but I don’t know why there’s clones I think this is like I think they I think my brother yeah
0 likesI think that’s it
0 likesNice just in time for October
0 likesUm hello haven't you read the comics
0 likesYou really didn't read the comics
Sorry to shatter this but...Sombra was never once an Alicorn. In fact he isn't actually a real pony. Read the Fiendship is magic Sombra issue comic from idw. He was born from shadows, or the umbrum. And he was never a father. But, the comics do reveal that in the span of the show, Sombra was sucessfully reformed, with the help of his old, dearest friend Radiant Hope, and they even set out to put back together the first crystal princess, Amora.
0 likesWait what about Lunaxsobra ship
0 likeshow king Cobalt real ternd evil and why?
0 likesSo cool
0 likesWhy do you have some prescriptions so is all the patches
0 likesLove the video! One question though how do you think Cadence gets put into this scenario? Her cutie mark is the crystal heart so is she the daughter of or a descendent of the former rulers of the crystal empire before Sombra took over? Or is she a descendent of Sombra himself? And if she is the daughter of the former rulers how did she escape from the curse maybe since she was born a Pegasus and where did the crystal ponies even come from? Perhaps its like Romeo and Juilet maybe love between ponies of the other 3 tribes when they were separated was forbidden and those who broke it were stripped of their wings and magic being called a disgrace and cast off to set an example where they found the land blessed with crystals that blessed them into crystals as long as they kept love in their hearts its far fetched but I would love to see how you would think Cadence would tie into this and why Celestia chose her to rule the Crystal Empire maybe she heard about the long lost princess and recognized her or maybe she just took a random Pegasus with strange magic to rule an entire empire but if so thats an unwise decision anyway what do you think? Sorry for the long comment.
0 likesYou might wanna change some details in the story: The Summer Sun Celebration represents the banishing of Nightmare Moon, as Celestia says in "The Summer Sun Setback"... no Celebration before Nightmare Moon.
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Another change, after he left they didn't use a protection spell
0 likesOkay. The story you thought about is really creative and yes, it really fits the timeline PERFECTLY. But I don't think Sombra is a Pony though. In the show we cannot see if Sombra has a cutie mark, so we can't exactly tell. But remember the shadow pony Stygian transformed into? The shadowpony itself was a dark magic surrounding Stygian and I think Sombra might actually be the same. Just with no pony inside him. I think Sombra is a dark shadow coming from beyond equestria, maybe even from another dimension, transformed into the creatures that live in Equestria.
0 likesOh and btw The Crystal Empire is in Equestria, not outside of it :P
So let me get this straight- King Sobra was ruler of the Unicorn tribe then the tribes all formed one tribe then the Wizards could no longer raise the sun and moon then Celestia and Luna came along and volunteered to raise the sun and moon and then they became alicorns causing King Sombra to lose his title as the King of the Unicorns he then studied ancient magic and became stronger then during The Summer Sun Celebration instead of the two Sisters, Sombra took all the Unicorns, Pegasus, and Earth ponies magic to overthrow the Sisters and Starswirl had managed to stop King Sombra banishing him from Equestria and Starswirl couldn’t return the magic King Sombra had corrupted and put the magic into the gem and then put it into the Alicorn Amulet then in Season 3 the episode “Magic Duel” Trixie then bought the Alicorn Amulet containing King Sombra’s corrupted magic but Trixie did not understand the corrupted it really contained and she used it to defeat Twilight in the Duel.
1 likeA true alicorn does not steal magic from the 3 tribes and cannot lose it
2 likesI feel like thanks to the last episode of season 9 they should make a new entire series
1 likeI think the story of King Cobalt to King Sombra really fits
0 likesI think when he was pushed out instead of taking magic from the ponies of equestria and instead went looking for power. he found the crystal empire and queen chrysalis in it and they formed a bond but ideas of what happened to him in equestria corrupted him causing the equilibrium of love to turn into the oppisite and only thirt for magic, the queen ran away uncertain and heartbroken and went to gather her hive. Her anger from what love can do made her instead of getting love kindly or finding an alternative, to instead force it from others, and also, in a way save them from heart break.
0 likesI took note of literally everything you said, I pay more attention in cartoon pony history then in actual history 🤧
0 likesAnybody remember Mistmane? Her appearance and Sombra’s looks similar and due to her high power level I think that’s why her mane flowed like Celestia’s and Luna’s and Sombra’s, and the curved horns- soooo... what if he’s a pony from there and he was just corrupted? And the wings weren’t real they were just a symbol of how strong he was and how he was able to defeat alicorns as a unicorn? Maybe he could’ve been a corrupted pupil of Celestia’s, I won’t go into full detail as I don’t have to time to but I just wanted to put this here as otherwise I’d forget.
0 likesThat's weird I believe that the answer for how Sombra came to be was in his diary it said "somber... it was the only word I could remember when they found me. No matter what they asked, the only thing I would say to them was this one word. So they made it my name. And that is how I, the king of all monsters, named myself. Not having any family to return a lost colt to, the crystal guard brought me to chestnut falls orphanage. Where he meets chestnut falls."
0 likesSombra didn't even need wings to rule since he over thrown princess Cadence mother and for that Radiant Hope have to find Celestia and Luna for help and so for that the Crystal Empire and Sombra disappeared. To rule equestria isn't about ruling with kindness or compassion like the other Alicorn princesses. To somber he wasn't even born like the others he was made, created by a red Crystal look like the others to blending in disguise so he can get close to the crystal heart and hide it. He even went find a friend in his youth that he care for and she was he's best friend that he had a crush on her stated that she must join him we're the powerful ones. We can rule as king and queen.
We need the new story of Sombra.
0 likesWell, it does explain two other things that you didn't get around to covering: the fact that Flim & Flam refer to it as "The Kingdom of Canterlot", and the fact that Canterlot is central to Unicorn society in Equestria. How is there a Kingdom with no King? We know Hasbro didn't want to use "Queen" for anything but villains (since Disney kind of poisoned the apple on that one long ago), but it never made sense for a Princess to rule a land.
0 likesWe know that there are Princes who also don't rule - Blueblood is one. But in absence of a King, the next Prince in line becomes King regardless of age or merit. So why wouldn't Blueblood (or a more senior Prince, if any) be King, if Kings still exist at all (as they do in other lands)? It makes sense IF the Kingship itself had been abolished. The ascension of the Two Sisters, taking over the previous Sun/Moon duties of the Unicorns as a tribe, meant executive power in Equestria became a meritocracy - only an Alicorn can rule, they must do so by ascension, their predecessor must take them under their literal wing, and they must be trained up for the job. The rest of the nobility still have their land and titles but none of them can contest for the Throne...
...that is, so long as a worthy Alicorn remains seated upon it. DUN DUN DAAAAAAAHHHHH...!
Nice theory but one teensy problem. The summer sun celebration was held to celebrate Celestia's defeat of Nightmare Moon and Sombra was banished before Nightmare moon. So maybe it happened at a royal speech or somethin
1 likeWhat about Cozy Glow's origin about she have parents and how she became evil?
2 likesPrincess Platinum's sire (father) is supposedly King Bullion. Sombra might have been a new name adopted by Bullion after his fall. Also the Royal sisters were Alicorns when they gained their CM's by moving the sun and moon. Yes, there has never been an alicorn born in Equestria prior to Flurry Heart, but the royal sisters weren't born in Equestria. Personally, I think the royal sisters, were born in the lost civilization of the Alicorns, and are displaced in space and time somehow. (Sort of "Last Son of Krypton" style).
0 likesFurther proof that sombra was an alicorn in The Crystal Empire Part 1 when celestia show twilight the Crystal Empire she produces the same kind of magic as sombra just before the black crystals form in front of twilight.
1 likeNow my question is how did celestia produce the same kind of magic as celestia because sombras type of magic comes from his corruption right?
As much as I agree with this, the creator of my little pony said that she called princess Celestia “princess” because it didn’t sound as evil. It might be the same with princess Platinm
0 likesYou did a good job i loved it from Almyra.♡
0 likesI totally agree with sawtooth theory about alicorns. But there is a flaw. If you need to have magic from all three tribes then starlight would be an alicorn. She can take cutie marks from all three tribes.
0 likesOkay so, there is one problem with your theory, you're basically saying that Sombra came back during the summer sun celebration even though the summer sun celebration was after Nightmare Moon (It was mentioned in S4 E1). Then you say that the royal sisters turned Sombra into a shadow. It doesn't make sense. For your theory to work, Sombra would have had to return for revenge before the Nightmare Moon (I think that would be too soon and the question is, when?) Correct me if I'm wrong
0 likesI like how when you mentioned "questionable sources" you show Sombra from comics lmao
1 likeI recommend reading the comic Fiendship is magic. Yes, I know its a comic book but try it.
1 likeIf the alicorn amulet absorbed sombra's wings the when trixie put it on it should have gave her wings but it didn't. So in my opinion the alicorn amulet is not connected to king sombra.
0 likesBut now we have one more question to complement the story what happened to his daughter if her really did had a daughter
0 likesthe theory is cool but you missed a lot of the story that came from the show, the parts you missed i can count are:
0 likesSombra didn't die he came back when discord was pretending to be grogar
the sisters banished Sombra not Starswirl
the thing that drove sombra mad was the power given to him by the crystal ponies love
thats all i found, also i have a mini theory that sombra always had a curved horn and canid teeth, there's other ponies in the show with curved horns and his teeth are different from Luna's, Luna's teeth are more like a 4 year old's drawing of a T-rex while sombra's look more like the predators we see today such as dogs, lions or wolves so im convinced he is part of a extinct race of carnivorous unicorn/alicorn, if he is a part of a Carnivorous unicorn race then there is also a race of Pegasus and land ponies with teeth like that, its rare to see ponies with curved horns that arent changelings or evil but they've appeared as back ground characters.(sorry it was long hope you liked mah mini theory :3 )
To be honesty the story of king sombra is really sad
0 likesWhat i think happend was star swirl used the gem to get the magic from the tribes from king saubra and turned it into the alicorn amulet then his wings banished with him then when he was banished his wings grew back then he found the crystal empire and ruled over it but got destroyed but didn't die and still had his wings and when he tried to take the crystal heart he was destroyed again but came back and turned into a shadow then got destroyed again then came back for to banish the empire then the empire returned then he came back for victory and to destroy like he does!!! Thats what I think happend😊
0 likesthanks for the videos man, id love for you to reply to me, i really want to talk to you about this stuff, and if anything id like to start a youtube channel like his and do videos with him, sawtooth waves if your reading this i want you to know that your my idol and i look up to you. thank you for all the wonderful years
0 likesif i might ask sawtooth? if sombra wasn't born in the empire who once ruled the empire before he took over or was their never a queen to begin with and the throne was open to anyone who saught to steal the throne?
0 likesWait wait argument theory here, what if he was the son of lost crystal princess, she would be ruling with her husband and one day somber a wanted the throne, over threw his mother and father and became king, years later when they first found the crystal empire they stole sombras magic and turned him into a unicorn and seeing his curropt nature banished him accidentally banishing the empire
1 likeThis person who owns the channel is going places.
0 likesI love you videos so interesting so fun to hear
0 likesThis theory isn't accurate because Celestia stated it was a celebration of Nightmare Moon's defeat.
0 likesIt would also be useless for him to be banished in the same land.
The story is epic
1 likeone question, Sombra is the first MALE alicorn we have seen, soo does that mean all of the other alicorns are females?
0 likesThere is a My Little Pony comic book that tells the story of sombra but I like your story butter
2 likesThe first king sombra looks like that character from legend of korra
2 likesThe intro is pretty cool (your bringing back my childhood btw)
0 likesAs a researcher never say you took the easier answer
0 likesHis "mysterious past"
2 likesExcept for the comics that give a full backstory for him, because that would be way too easy...
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I read every comment and finally someone mentioned the comics
0 likesThis is a good theory but there is a little wrinkle in your story, if this is the case then why did the amulet let Trixie use the amulet's powers?
0 likesWell I know why Sombra’s horn is curved . Look at Mistmain her horn is curved and every one in her town also have a curved horn I think Sombra is From that town
0 likesHonestly they stole his throne from him what did they expect
0 likesOr maybe the alicorn amulet
0 likesThe creators:let's add wings on this so it looks cool
That unicorn horn was also found in mistmane's city
0 likesWhy did the Crystal empire go down with him? And then came back without him? Is it like a curse?
0 likesI dont know how i ended up here but I LOVE IT
0 likesWho's stronger? Sombra? Pony of shadows or Nightmare moon?
1 likeTrue but how would have king sombra gotten the magic looking at what you have said about him yes it's true but you should make an episode on how he got the magic
0 likesA WARNING WHO ANYONE WHO COMES ACROSS IT
0 likesTrixie: points to the Alicoen Amulet
The buyer: oh you want this one, well-
Trixie: gives a full bag of coins
The buyer: oh sure sure lemme get the amulet for you-
D O E S N ' T M A K E S E N S E
yep. this is 2020. solving mystery’s in my little pony. yep.
0 likesSawtooth: ...WELL until a dark chaos God Coming as a dead goat to troll his friends
1 likeMe: thinks of among us comics on trolling
that speech was amazing and its all right I know because I peached it up on google and it said the same thing but with harder words and that whole speech was something
0 likesIn the third season tricky used the alicorn magic but she didn't get wings. She got red eyes red magic and a thirst for greed and more power over twilight
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Mabye if it was on longer?
0 likesI think that is how sombra came to be.
0 likesseriously 2 videos combined into 1 video is insane i haven't even seen the second video
0 likesDo you remember the blue spell that Grogar (Discord) on the last fight??? It could mean something :0
0 likesHe retired and Celestia's 19-year-old son took over him
0 likesRemember the summer sun celebration happened after the banishment of Nightmare Moon! Sombra was banished before nightmare moon!
0 likesI DISAGREE
0 likesLET'S make it simple....
Sombra a unicorn that put magical power into an amulet and make the amulet look like a alicorn then...
he go to the crystal empire and started ruling.
Done.
Just pointing out..... He doesn't have a cutie mark so that makes me think that he was never a normal unicorn or.... What if he never GOT his cutie mark? This would explain why he always where's a cape..
0 likesNo one knows who sombra is. To the system he’s nobody
0 likesWhy do you have King Sombra's amulet if it is his magic that he stole from other ponies?
0 likesWhat happened to Princess Platinum? That's my question.
0 likesIntro matches the beat, nice.
0 likesMaybe king cobalt was already a Alicorn and then he transform into sombra then someone take away his Alicorn ?
0 likesSawtooth: This is how sombra came to be...
0 likesYoutube: DOWNLOAD THE NEWEST TV COMMERCIALS
me: ah yes tv commercals is how sombra came to be
7:21 Is that Trixie's Alicorn Amulet
0 likesWhen it said how king sombra came to be a sushi making add popped up
0 likesOf course. Sombra is sushi! 😂
does this mean rarity might be relted to king sombra?
0 likesAnyone going to talk about how cute baby sombra is?
0 likesI thought there was a whole comic about this
0 likesNooo! The name of the king is King Bullion! It's mentioned in the book of the 2 sisters! Read the books brony!
0 likesDiscord must have been protecting the elements with me
1 likeWell evryting is rong first he was a shadow pony and the Queen his mother took avay his magic so that the prison all of them where stuck in he can get out .The cristal gourds found him and took him to a ofenage were he wasnamed sombra because it was the only word he could say .He met a friend he loved .Hope she told him about the cristal faire and every year he got sick of the light and love . One year Hope got her mark by saving him with medical aid She got her he did not only becoming a beast . Sombra and hope took over the empire but Sombra ralised he must become good ore Hope will not like him so he became good . That's the real story
0 likes4:38 was so good that it gave me an add.
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I didn't click it but I look and it was the same timing and I got a ad-
0 likesJust saying there is actually a comic talking about sombra’s paste
0 likesSo , can he reform ? please some pony reform him 🙏
0 likesSawtooth Waves: How King Sombra Came to be
0 likesDisney+ Commercial Pops Up
Me: W A T
I don't want to ruin the theory but if the UNICORN king was an ALLICORN wouldn't he already be the ruler since he was respected.?
0 likesThis is so good
1 likeMe watching how Sombra got corrupted ad: A medicine that can cure any symptoms just kidding it poisons you lol😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesMake a video about how to form king sombra
0 likesSawtooth in the story of how king sombra became to be you showed that rarity was his daughter
0 likesDo you think that Sombra and Luna we’re dating before he became evil
0 likesthe only issue is that this theory assumes that Celestia and Luna were made into Alicorns rather then born...
0 likesI love this one
0 likesin one episode trixii tooks the amulet
0 likesMistmane’s horn and sonbra’s horn same horn but red maybe he is from then
1 likeThe alicorn amulet only increased the wearer's magic, though it could possibly only work for the physical traits of the pony. I think it more likely that Sombra made the amulet, planning to use it to become an alicorn, but failed, and the amulet was taken
0 likesNot true because in order to become an alacorn you had do something to gain wings
0 likesMe who dislikes every video about a clown named Sombra 🥲🥲
0 likesLauren Faust tweeted some years ago, that princess celestia and princess luna were naturally born unicorns.
0 likesUntil a chaos God larping as a died goat brought him back to troll his friends
0 likesSombra does not have wings...
0 likesWhat for Radiant hope .
1 likeI search up king so bra daughter and it showed twilights name?!😳
0 likesOMG HOW DO U COME UP WITH THESE THEAR ESE
0 likesI think that princess luna and king sombra are in love with each other
1 likeThis story is cool but I honestly think it's stretching..
0 likesOr maybe that's just me liking Magpiepony's Princess Trixie Sparkle and wanting to believe the amulet belongs to some pony we don't know..
who is the Reforming king Sombra?
0 likesNow that I think about it, Maybe there are other kinds of species of unicorns that MLP will realese in the future....
1 likeSombra didn’t die ; he came back in season nine
0 likesoh and also your star swirl the bearded made alicorns theory wouldn’t make sense
But....what happened to his daughter?
0 likesI think you're right Sawtooth Waves
0 likesSawtooth Waves: here's the story...... "Of how King Sombra came to be....................."
0 likesAd: HYRULE WARRIORS: AGE OF CALAMITY TRAILER. (HYRULE WARRIORS AVAILABLE NOW)
ME: OOOOOOKAYYYY THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
Wait so- sombras daughter is RARITY?!
0 likesbut what about sombra's daughter what happend to her did she vanish or what I REALLY WANT TO KNOW
0 likesI don't care for his new voice, the old one had put a sense of danger in me, now it does not
0 likesMe watching this: how king sombra... Came to be.....
0 likesAd: super crunch
Me thinking: wow king sombra became a super crunch HAHAHAHAHA
What about his horn?
0 likesWhy is there the 💎 Emoji in the tile
0 likesThars an important character missing from this but she's from the comics #35 https://youtu.be/emO-QnYS3yU
0 likesJust a little backstory
Not trying to judge Im just saying
Soooooooo its the ponies fault he became like that?
0 likesSawtooth you are super awesome! My name is Fruity Copper!
0 likesBut then chisles can be the Princess and the daugther of sobra
1 likeI wish Sombra was better villain.
0 likes0:18 um why is he in front of the thing from lung toons? Oh well. Nice theory!
0 likesBro- THATS THE SISTERS FAULT
0 likesYour wrong there is a my little pony book 📚 of how sombra came to be but it is only available in the library
0 likesYa know that mlp never showed sombrAs cutie mark..
0 likesその考察好きやで
0 likesSombras daughter is rarity?!
0 likesStop being so creepy Sawtooth
1 likeWhat is sombra’s city mark
0 likes"How King Sombra Came To Be"
0 likesCar air refreshener ad: Helo
He is the royal doctor
0 likesIf you want to learn more about the history of Equestria watch @HistoricalEquestria
1 likeSawtooth: How king Sombra came to be..
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Sawtooth Waves: How King Sombra came to be
1 likeAd: no bish, i give you some ads 😜😜😜
Me: u bish ಠ_ಠ
what about discord please make a part 2 explaining that
0 likesShe,s an alicorn
0 likesWHOA WHOA WHOA RARITY IS KING SOMBRA'S DAUGHTER??????!!!!!!
0 likesSombra is an alicorn
0 likesYou must love my litul pony and appuls dont you
0 likesYou are right 😁
0 likesPlot twist: if you look closely at sombra’s horn, you can see some small spots. I think that’s how he got his shadow form
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Or probably he got them naturally.
0 likesIdk just correct me, ok?
0 likesso techincally what your saying is KING SOMBRA PAST AND MAYBE NEW SELF IS A FATHER?!?!?!?
0 likesUR MORE THAN CORRECT
0 likesWow that makes sense
0 likesdo boy ponies just dont have wings
0 likesTheres a rumor about the ponies and the humans, They all always think why that pink filly is Celestia to princess Celestia, That Celestia as filly, shes not full-alicorn, shes just a normal Unicorn, And an adult, She became Rainbow (I think its pink style not a regular rainbow) Even Luna, filly Luna has Almost-color-cyan hair even when she being defeated by a Mane Six, and Adult she has Dark Blue or whatever, her middle hair has something different color
0 likesI think you are right look at night mare moon
0 likesSombra is daddy
0 likesWait rarity is sombras daughter????
0 likesOkay but the comics tho-
0 likesUmbrum
0 likesSombra
BR
Whoa... Just whoa
0 likesOMG Two of him are really same what if sawtooth is right alicorn amulet and sombra original pest
0 likesOld king👑 of unicorn get replaced from 2 young pony sister become new princess alicorn
New look of old unicorn king👑
1;colars then (before)💙>❤now(after)
2;costume then (before)😇>😈now(after)
3;voice then (before)>now(after) (i gusse?)
4;powers then (before)💝👑👏🌟>💥💣🔥💢now(after)
I well king👑 sombra he wants is become old unicorn king again but this time is not a same at all
Yes you are right
0 likescelestia and luna are born alicorn
0 likesYour so cool!!!!! If you haven't done one about rainbow dash, can you
0 likesi like it alot
0 likesThat looks like my little pony :\
0 likesyes it would also i love beginning music and trixie is dumb cuz she did not see the warning i guess
0 likesSombra cutimark
0 likesyour so right king sombto
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So right
0 likesUr so smart I agree and I like ur styel
0 likesso cool
0 likesWait king sombra is her kid is luna and celestia..
0 likesWho is apple blooms and sweety bells parents
0 likes🙏QUALITY
0 likesHim and lunu new each other
0 likes😍
0 likesI think that Kakd is back with meggvv
0 likesI like the intro song😎😎
1 likeYour smart.
0 likesKing bullion is princess platinum father
0 likesWhy thus the unicorn kings dauther looks like raraty
0 likesBruh nice intro
0 likesi think i firgured it out
0 likesHe doesn't have a cutee mark
0 likesWhate whot you’re telling me that raddedt is sombras datter
0 likesThen why do they hav that cool hair
0 likesWhere are the queens
0 likesIm sunset renbow I love your videos
0 likesAgain and don't skip anything
1 likeAren’t Celestia and luna from the alicorn tribe?
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Yeah
0 likesMatpat of my little pony
0 likesKing sombra iz alikorn and iz on back macik
0 likesBut I wanted to find out
0 likesBIG BRAIN
0 likesWhy do you have that thing?
0 likesI guess she is a girl
0 likesNice fan fic bro
0 likesMy husbando 😍😍😍
1 likeI'm such a simp
And princess Luna Banshee him not celestia I think my spelling is wrong....🤷🤷
0 likesI know what stopped him qween luna
0 likesOmg, That's like....i don't even know.
0 likesWow….
0 likesMy name is Stella Kim ❤💍👑
1 likeI love your intor
0 likesLike if any my lil pony charecter wud c dis then they wud bi in awe
0 likesOops sorry it's Rarity
0 likes🤩 🤩🥳
1 likeWait a minute king sombra is raritys dad or no
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No, rarity just played the princess in the play.
1 like@yly niu oh okay ;3
0 likesCan you make a video of my dear luna cuz sadow Is in love with luna so maby sadow Is the son of
1 like'it's PEOPLE'
0 likesYour a changeling!
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With your green changling thing that chransforms them!
1 likeThis story makes so much sense! Great work!
1 likeThat's simply genius. How in the heck do you come up with this stuff? It could literally be canon. It SHOULD be canon. My mind is blown.
0 likesAn alternative speculation? Perhaps Sombra created the Alicorn Amulet, in a similar manner to Sauron creating the one ring? With it, his powers were amplified even further, but without it, he finds himself deminished. I don't think its a coincidence that Sombra is similar to Sauron in many respects. His iron crown even bears the same sigil - note how its curved red spikes and steel centre depicts the eye of Sauron atop Barad-Dur.
1 likeThis is so dope! The backstory is very interesting, he was snuffed tbh. One of the best villains! As a side note, in the MLP comics they did give him a backstory, but I'm not sure how canon the comics are? Either way, King Sombra is one of the best characters!
0 likesInstead of star swirl I was thinking his own daughter princess platinum here is how I think it would go I call it
1 likeThe 7 day betrayal
As Sombra ruled with an iron fist he asked his daughter to rule with him and of course she agreed but she seemed a bit off. She wanted everything but not like this.. She started to think.. She and the two princesses made a plan. She started gathering information from the King and learnt dark magic to rival her father. On the 7th day of her plan she struck! Using all of her might she stole her fathers magic but with no where to put it she consumed it!! The two princesses ran to her in horror! The Princess looking as tired as ever not trying to get corrupted said "finish me before it's to late." Both of the princesses faced each other and looked for some sort of crystal and stored princess platinum's magic but it was to late she passed away. King Sombra awoke and saw this act but could do nothing without his magic he couldn't save the dark magic or his daughter so he sprinted away never to be seen ever again
Your storytelling is phenomenal Sawtooth
0 likesvery good job bringing his past live
1 likeIf you remember, three of the ponies had red eyes when they absorbed Starlight's anger...so I think this is how he get red eyes..By gathering his anger in the glass and then in an incident, the glass broke and he absorbed the anger.
0 likesMan if the creators of MLP made an episode about Sombar's origin I would've watched it.🙃
1 likeAgreed but one question: If sombre was BANISHED from equestrian he was probably sent super duper far away like 1k km away or something. So how did he sense magic in the crystal empire? Also the empire is always cold around it so y was he in a desert?
1 likeKing Sombra is my FAVORITE villain! LOVE HIM. Thanks for making this video!
0 likes00:23: I love that thinking face Sombra makes here.
0 likesI think it’s more likely that King Sombra was an Eastern unicorn, like Mistmane. Both of them have inward curving horns as a reference to the Kirin. If that’s the case it’s possible he’s the Emperor that Mistmane’s friend presumably deposed when she stole the throne. It’s even possible that the sisters found him because they were trying to tie up loose ends that the pillars left behind, were looking for the missing emperor and tracked him to the Crystal Empire. So what I think happened was after getting kicked out of his own kingdom he couldn’t just come back, he was outmatched, so he went searching for more power. During this time he encountered the Darkness and it taught him how to create the Alicorn Amulet, gaining a power great enough to defeat any unicorn, but at the same time it corrupted him. In the end instead of returning to his kingdom he decided to take over the Crystal Empire using his fear magic to subjugate the ponies there.
0 likesThis makes perfect sense to me so I’m choosing to believe this is exactly what happened. 😂
0 likesBeautifully written
0 likesExcuse me, Your Majesty? There are 2 questions you left me with:
0 likes1: If "King Cobalt" has a daughter(Princess Platinum), who was his queen?
and 2: What is Sombra's cutie mark(or is he a blank-flank instead)?
Please answer these in another video. I also have more questions:
Why are Crystal Ponies horn-and wing-less?
How did Starswirl even EXIST back then?
When did Sombra curse the Crystal Empire?
Why is the Alicorn Amulet existing? According to this, wouldn't Starswirl have DESTROYED the gem instead of hiding it?
Why is he evil in the first place? You reformed the OTHER villains that Dis-I mean, Grogar, brought back. Why not Sombra?
Please answer all of these someday.
Well, the Journal of the Two Sisters seems to suggest that the sisters were already Alicorns, maybe even born that way, but so far back in time that Equestria didn't even exist yet, hence Celestia stating that Equestria had never seen the birth of an Alicorn when Flurry Heart was born. And, except for one animation error in Grannies Gone Wild we have never seen any evidence of a male Alicorn. They may indeed exist, but we have nothing that is canon that I am aware of to confirm, or deny, that they do.
0 likesKing sombra and queen crystalist are combined by crystalist used to rule the crystal empire that’s why she looks like that and why she’s an alicorn but once king Sombra came he stole the thrown but crystalist and many of her crystal people escaped and turned into the love hungry creatures they are
1 likeOr he could have invented dark magic and became an alicorn that way, then had an accident that required both of his wings to be amputated, and he got angry and jealous once the Sisters earned their wings. No evidence, and it doesn't make much sense, but it would be a cool story.
0 likesI dont know about the replaced-by-celesta-and-luna part. The ponies of equestria arent cold hearted. They dont just re-place someone just because they found someone better. Maybe Sombra tried to steal there magic to get rid of them so no pony will stand in his way but ofcourse he was caught so they exiled him.
0 likeseverything has something in common they all needed something to push them to being bad
0 likesOkokok so- sombra definitely used to be an alicorn- I mean his castle in season 3 is chalk full of alicorn magic, something we’ve been led to believe is unique to alicorns (and apparently twilight but i think she was already a pseudo alicorn at the start of season 3) - so him having alicorn magic would suggest that he used to be an alicorn.
0 likesThis sounds like such a great headcannon backstory for him!!!!!! Great job as always Sawtooth!!!
2 likesCan we get a theory about how starlight got her cutie mark and what it really means? I'm curious because it looks like her cutie mark is drawing magic, but she's reformed now, so it can't be that. Maybe her cutie mark has a double meaning like diamond tiara's?
0 likesA small problem is that the cristal empire is in ecrequtrea. So he couldn’t be banished.
0 likesI have a theory that probably explain why Sombra doesn t have a cuttie mark. When the princess give their magic to Twillight them cutie marks dessapear. Now i have 2 questions. Why Sombra's mane is still moving? And why Sombra lose his wings and the others alicorns no.
0 likesThe only explanation i could find is that an alicorn can lose their wings depending in how it became an alicorn. If you earn the wings travel to the magic dimention then it will affect permantly the basic form. However if some pony ( like Clozy Glow and Sombra did) absorb magic it wont change the basic form.
And the moving mane..........I am still searching an explanation....
Edit: About the moving mane i have 2 posibilities.
The firts one is that the moving is a secundary effect of have unicorn magic. That would explain why Mistmane also have a Magic mane. The deal is explain why not all the unicorns have one or what are the requirements.
That is why i see the second one more likely. The moving hair is the result of having unicorn and earth pony magic. As we can see earth ponies have a facility to move theirs manes in very usefull ways. Like give a punch or carry somethings. And if you ad some unicorn magic wuala. Now you have a moving mane.
Maybe Sombra didnt use his earth pony magic because it was few or because he had slaves but Mistmane did. She can make grown flower and plants with the same facility of am earth pony so.....there.... thanks to read all
I think he NOT a alicorn and a very powerful unicorn. He studied magic for years finally got the hang of it as well, as he was practicing a spell that was unknown he went into the vein of darkness. The spell was unknown to be a dark spell to turn any creature that can do it..evil. He was from a place in Equestria, not sure where though and moved to the Crystal Empire to study magic there instead. He found out how much power he had after he was absorbed into darkness and took control of the Crystal Empire. His magic grows from every pony there. I will explain how: Crystal ponies have a special type of magic they look like regular earth ponies except you can tell them apart by the eyes. The magic they have is stronger than a regular pegasus or earth pony type, if you absorb their magic you will feel how powerful it is and he felt that. Sombra had drained the magic from those crystal ponies by slavery and he was strong. He had enough magic to be compared more powerful than the alicorn ambulate and once he was defeated all of his magic was put into the ambulate. When he came back in season nine.. he was searching for magic. But that is my theory!
0 likesAwesome theory! It actually makes sense
0 likesDo you know the moment when you said "the gem of sombras image" well triksy may have took it and sombra was captured in it and she may have let king sombra free,but im not sure this is my opinion
0 likesI feel bad for him T^T
1 likeI'm too invested in the subplots of your OC (and the OCs of all the other MLP content creators). Yeah King Cobalt is cool but BAT-ALICORN SAWTOOTH WAVES?!
0 likesI mostly agree but you got 1 detail wrong.
0 likesEquestria wouldn't be celebrating the summer sun celebration. That holiday was created to celebrate the defeat of Nightmare Moon,then would later be held to celebrate the return of Luna. Nightmare Moon happend after King Sombra banished the Empire. So if Sombra really stole magic from all 3 tribes,it wouldn't of been at the summer sun celebration.
Hi Brony Notion! I used to be a BIG fan of yours and was there when you were called yourself Brony notion! I watched you when I was 6 years old and now I am 11! You honestly and your theories and in general watching my little pony were a big part of my childhood (well I still am in my childhood bc I'm only 11 lol) but I came back to your channel to see what you have done! I understand you haven't done many videos because lol it probably is hard to even think of a theory to make before even solving it xD . But I just wanted to say hi :D I have grown out of the fandom :c but doesn't mean I won't support you with a sub : ) And the last vids I watched were the harmony songs and yeah I was wondering why there weren't much vids but glad you're back! I have 1 suggestion: Well I have grown out of My little pony but I still sorta watch the Equestria Girls movies sometimes but the Dazzlings songs won't get out of my head they're amazing!-- My point is maybe make a theory from Equestria Girls! Thanks, (if you've read this comment :D) , for reading!
1 likeDid he forget there is a comic series that explains sombra’s backstory?
0 likesThe summer sun celebration was made to celebrate nightmare moons defeat but Celesta and Luna defect him at the Crystal Empire so you are not right
0 likesWe all know that the real reason that Sombra turned bad was because of what happened to him when he proposed to the two sisters that they have a democracy rather than a monarchy
0 likesGreat Emperor here, That's a sad tale for King cobalt and his right of Authority, I have a assumption on this and I for one, think this is how it came to be. It saddens me so, if I was forced out of my imperial throne by alicorns..... Heheheheee..... They first need to go through my loyal soldiers who fought bravely against all external threats beyond the borders of the Velhkaiddian Empire.
0 likesWait I thought king sombra was related to changlings in a way where you describe who crystals was before she became queen of the changlings
0 likesI don't know if he gained his powers by ripping the Magica from the other tribes his name is King Sombra that sounds more like a snake so maybe some kind of power or Magicka hungry snake bit him and then that's a Venom isn't filled with head over to blow in the magic and then he became a noun I don't know if he gained his powers by ripping the Magica from the other tribes his name is King Sombra that sounds more like a snake so maybe some kind of power or Magicka hungry snake bit him and then that's a Venom isn't filled with head over to blow in the magic and then he became a noun that's an entire crowd with CM also guards with no and then the rest of them
0 likesThis one is more of a fanfiction than a proper theory
0 likesBut... when twilight got her magic taken away by terik as an ALICORN, and she kept her wings and she was originally an UNICORN before she got her wings,so a flaw, AND ALL THE OTHER ALICORNS IN THE SAME SURCUMSTANCE, AND THEY WERE ALSO UNICORNS ORIGINALLY( exsepsen for cadence) so yea.
1 likeWho else really liked the intro?
1 likeWait if King Sombra died that means Discord (who was diguised as Grogar) brought him back to life!?
0 likesActually if you rewatch the 1st episode the sun celabration was made to honer the defeat of night mare moon
0 likesWhen the main six used the elements of hamony on Sombra would'nt he have turned back like luna did in the first episode
0 likesCould you explain to me "what happened to aloysius when twilight got her castle" because I have not seen aloysius around
0 likesThat sound like it could be real! And that could be a reason there isn't anymore male alicorns! I wish we could get the real deal about our big villains and about Luna and Celestia
0 likesThe first summer sun celebration was the celebration of the downfall of Nightmare Moon not Celestia's first sunrise
0 likesSorry to disprove this theory, but Princess Platinum's father is King Bullion. (According to the Royal Sister's diary) Also, Sombra's backstory is explained in the Comics "Friendship is Fiendship", "Reflections", and "Siege of the Crystal Empire". Really nice theory though!
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Are the comics canon to the show though?
0 likes@Lily Young I like to think so, especially now that season 10 is taking place in the comics
1 like@Average Loner oh that's right. Is there anywhere I can find to comics on the web?
0 likes@Lily Young Try comicsunlimited using a library account, or just try a library
1 likeWhat but what about tirek he took ALL magic from the princess and princes but he didn’t get wings?
1 likeI kind of wish we had more episodes with discord
0 likesThis a comic book on Sombra past you should read it if you like I can spend you the link so you can get more information on him if you like
0 likesIf you claim that sombra was the king but instead his daughter appeared, which leaves me who was queen or the wife of sombra
0 likesWell this is a good theory but king sombra was not born evil something made him evil maybe he had a son that went missing and um I don’t know 🤷🏼♀️
0 likesI love the apple skit in the end that's funny lol
0 likesOkay, who ruled the Crystal Empire BEFORE King Sombra found it?
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These guys seem to be trying to help this theory. I'm trying to destroy it.
0 likes2:59 luna's face lmao
0 likesWhat about crysalis? What happened in you old theory about crysalis and king sombra about the crystal empire?
1 likeSombra has soaring hair, which means ге is powerful enough to be an alicirn who is even more polerfull than two alisorns.And he is the only mail pony with it. And one more thing.Do anynony thing its posible for luna and sombra to get along together?
0 likesThe story of how king Sombra came to be...
0 likesBlack Friday
Hm, i remember in one of silverquils videos (the one where he anylizes the episode threes a crowed) that we see a crystal pegasus among cadances royal escort when she’s greeting twilight at the train station
0 likesIn one of the comics is King sombra's backstory
0 likesThat was the end of king sombra and king cobalt thank god there gone🙏
0 likesI think that king Sombra was actually born a À la corn but then when he got older he was the king. But then nightmare moon came took his power and now he’s just regular old unicorn looking for revenge
0 likesI think you’re exactly right because that makes sense.
0 likesSombra was an alicorn? Maybe in another reality.
0 likesTrixie didn't become an alicorn once she put on the Alicorn Amulet
0 likesI have been wondering what would happen if discord went through the portal to the human world
0 likesummm REALLY great question but.. were Celestia and sombra dating!? ya-know before he turned evil? or at least had a thing for each other, like a tragic romance??
0 likesIk I just made a theory but maybe Sonora was never an alicorn we saw Mist Manes story and maybe he was the over ruled empire, because mist manes friend wasn’t an alicorn
0 likesThey were borned alicorn (Celestia and Luna)
0 likesAnd the past ruler was princess Galaxia
Wait- I got a theory
0 likesSo in the episode where starlight gets called by the map with the two sisters and she changes the cutie marks so celestia is in her dream and somehow Luna comes in her dream to so I’m thinking that Alicorns can come in dreams
Hmmmmm keeps me thinking 🤔
Sawtooth wave can you theory tirek and chrysalis needs love and magic to live or else they will die because when twilight and others defeat cozy ,chrysalis ,and tirek. Tirek was cold like he was starving for magic and like chrysalis she needs love to live because thorax was starving the Crystal empire what was got him there but when he transformed into something he didn’t need love. So yeah that my theory for you sawtooth wave
0 likesWho else was just Vibing to the music?
0 likesAlso I think you are totally and completely correct
I think the alicorn amulet was sombro’s and star💫 take’s it
0 likesBut we don't even know if Male ponys can be alicorn
1 like5:35 they gave love and light...flurry heart
0 likesI really like this type of this video because you can fall asleep
0 likesCrystal ponies are only earth ponies because the crystal empire is a earth pony village lol 🤣 .
1 likeNote: HILARIOUS!!!!
1 likeRumors? There is an entire comic about his UMBRUM HERITAGE ...
0 likesThere are 3 main Sombra arcs
>Show
>Comic alternative good version
>Comic show related version (umbrum
Only contradiction is when Sombra (in a later issue) goes to find the Splitters of Queen Amore. (Not cadi, but her mom/sister of Celi) ... we know Celi refers to Celestia as 'Aunt'....
Anyhow... he is no alicorn. He is an Umbrum in Ponyform. that's all. Which explains his negative/dark magic
But not for long until grogar summoned him from his death after trerik, chrysalis, and cozy glows defeats.
0 likesWhy in the world does sombra's Crystals look like th black rocks from tangled the series and if yes WHERE IS THE MOONSTONE!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
1 likeNo he has a family and he sacrificed himself to save them he also did not die he was seen in season 8
0 likesThere is something in common Luna has a shadow form so does shadow pony and somber a to so does that mean something made him evil
0 likessince i saw the first eg movie i have had one thing spining around my head! Listen! When twilight tells fluttershy that she want to be against sunset fluttershy says its a bad idea! And says something about "another person" who was against sunset!! They never said who was that girl and what sunset did to her!!! Please see this....
0 likesWait how about. Reforming King sombra?
0 likesAnyone remember when the top bolt episode The leader of tge winderbolts said that someone flew so fast that their wings fell off.......
0 likesThe start of the video was soooo cinimatic
0 likesI still don't understand Sombra got ban out of town but his horn changed like changeling horn...
0 likesSo sombra also has a flowing mane
0 likesbig F for sombra
0 likesbut nightmare moon kept her wings
0 likesNo theres a story but fanfiction comic of him and hope
0 likesHope is a unicorn where him and hope became friends since nobody else really liked him cause he was different
Slowly he was becoming more and more ill to the dark magic that was slowly killing him,he developed hidden feelings for hope
They both then went to the crystal heart wich showed their future
It showed sombra that his future was dark and he'd become corrupted while it showed hope becoming a princess
In fear and anger sombra ended up giving in to the darkness and betrayed everyone while hope desperately tried to help him and convince him otherwise
Damn this makes sense
0 likesThis makes a lot of sense
0 likesThat intro music tho. Amazing video!!!
0 likesKing Sombra became to be my ad :)
0 likesWho was the leader of the Crystal Empire
0 likesCant beleive ppl still talk bout mlp and here i am watching all of it
0 likesIs Rarity Sombra's child! 😱
0 likesNOOOOO
0 likesDON'T U DARE RUIN ONE OF MY FAV VILLAINS
That is not right about celestia and Luna absorbing that magic because in the stars wires secret video you said starswirl created alicorns and used the royal sisters as a test
0 likesI think in new pony movie sombra is alive! be ready for some fun!
0 likesI was going to say he came back in season 9
0 likesPoor Sombra
0 likesSweetie bell and Flurry heart looks the same from the hair and the face
0 likesSawtooth waves: How king sombra came to be...
1 likeYoutube: Interupts with mc donald ad
Me: Does this happens to other people?
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King Sombra become the McDonalds manager
0 likesthat intro tho
0 likes9:17 think once was a normal pony. But the only true boy with wings. So everybody laugh at school at him. And the school wad magic school with the princess. One day he here his wings by falling. Then he became so anger. He turn to darkness like the guy in star of season 7. Might be same with changelink there were normal ponies who het the leading princess. And back to other guy the princess did nothing to help. So he final had a plan then after a fail. He join with the other bad guys but then to come with odd death.
0 likesVery nice . Actually I am his fan lol
0 likessorry if this sounds a lil bit confusing, but the Cutie Mark Crusader's have been around each other constantly, and as we all know, Apple Bloom is an earth pony, Scootaloo is a pegasus, and Sweetie Belle is a unicorn, and (i think?) They've had at least 2 magical transformations together in some way, so why wouldnt they absorb each others magic/love/powers etc and all become alicorns? also, in the very last episode of the show, they show the CMC all grown up, but Scoot still has tiny wings. Is she stunted?
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ah- also a slight correcting from what I know of about the Summer Sun Celebraion, feel free to correct me or ignore this if Im wrong, but (cant remember which episode, i think it mightve been one of the last three in the show) they explained that the SSC was a celebration for the banishment of Nightmare Moon, and in your video, Celestia and Luna are ruling together, and Nightmare Moon hasnt taken over Luna yet, so yeah um idk
0 likesnooooo he was not a alicorn first he would keep take the magic back second why did clestiea not know about it
0 likesSawtooth waves i wanna have more season of MLP
0 likesbut what about king sombra's parents and daughter
0 likesI just realized Twilight and her friends killed a guy...
0 likesIf Twilight became princess or Queen what did Sunset Shimmer become. Is she the principal now
0 likesMLP left so many unanswered questions.
0 likesHave u not read his Fiendship is Magic book? Or do u just not consider those cannon.
0 likesPlot twist he was jealous of celestia and luna cuz he never got his cutie mark and they did
0 likeshow in equestria is sombra good first
0 likesI LOVE YOUR VIDS
0 likesand his wife if he had a daughter
0 likesHow about his cutiemark?
0 likesHow king sobra came to be...
0 likesAds about pregnant:pops out
Ah yes king sombra came from a pregnant lady
(I'm not tryna copy oof sorry)
Why don’t you do a reforming king sombra? Or did you do one already -_-
0 likesSAWTOOTH ) This is how som...comershel
0 likesMaybe thats why male ponies aren't alicorns cause king sombra was corrupted by magic and turned evil. But idk
0 likesthere was never any "stallicorns" ever, well, not ponies at least...
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King Sombra was always a pony. or at least a dark magic pony.
0 likesis somdera RELLY died?
0 likesi don't think that his origin was he being an alicorn but i still think that the villain himself is show off ( no offense)
0 likes"how king sombra came to be"
0 likesad: BIG
4:00 what if......
1 likeYOUR WORKING WITH MLP CREATORS AND TELLING ALL THE STUF THEY SAID TO TELL ON YOUTUBE
You mean Somber what is a good king
0 likesHow come sawtooth never done a face reveal.
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my face is right there in every video!! it's even in my channel icon! wdym?
1 likeAre you thorax friend? Eats strawberry
1 likeWriting a fanfic off this.
0 likesSue me.
Sawtooth sawtooth I found something!
0 likesLook up mlp king cobolt and sombra comes up!
zombra x luna ❤ do a theory about this 😉 .
0 likeszombra x luna ❤ do a theory about this 😉 .
0 likesCould you make it more exciting
1 likei think you are right one day make a video of this intier story not wanting to see you in it only like a movie i will be paciant
0 likeshi sawtooth waves i am a big fun of you
0 likessombras horn is like tempas
0 likesKing bullion is angry at you sawtooth
0 likesMaybe he heath broken:(
1 likeHow king sombra, came to be...
0 likesPLAYS ADD FOR VIOLENT GAME
Whyyyyy!!@
Umm It doesn’t line up with how chrysalis is the last princess of the Crystal Empire
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Lost
0 likesIts this made in Halloween?
0 likesI hated the new voice actor they got for Sombra. It was so misplaced and stupid.
0 likes𝑰 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒘𝒂𝒕𝒄𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒓𝒐𝒚𝒂𝒍 𝒇𝒂𝒎𝒊𝒍𝒚𝒔 𝒎𝒍𝒑 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒔𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒉𝒊𝒎 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒘𝒊𝒏𝒈𝒔 !
0 likesi think your right
0 likesGood video
1 likeSo rariti is sambras child
1 likeSeriously? Sombra's already got a backstory, ya know! Ugh, DID YOU EVEN READ THE COMIC!!!???? I MEAN I LIKE MOST OF YOUR THEORIES, BUT YOU DEFINITELY, COMPLETELY IGNORED THE COMIC LICENSED BY HASBRO!!!!! THE "RUMOR" THAT SOMBRA IS AN UMBRUM, IS. A. FACT!!!!!!!!!!!
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I definitely overreacted there. At the time I posted this, I didn't know that you didn't make theories about the comics. Sorry.
1 likeA male alicorn!!!!!
0 likesShadow pony is sombra
0 likesSo king sombra is Princess luna childhood friend
0 likesGood thinking but I think there is a little more
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I’m sorry but the thumbnail makes me uncomfortable. idk why it just ✨does✨
0 likesOh that makes sense
0 likesCool :D
0 likesKing Sombra's True backstory.
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King Cobalt was his true name, he was also an Alicorn.
0 likesChancellor Puddinghecc VS Chancellor Neighsay!
0 likesOmg ur so smart!
1 likePaco taco is rich lol
0 likesObviously I cut them off duh
0 likesThis is been a long time since I watched mlp so idk
0 likesi wanna talk about one small side detail... remember Mistmane? unlike earth ponies and pegasi, unicorns have multiple different breeds, so what if he wasn't just a regular unicorn, but rather from some ancient land?
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He was an umbrum!
0 likesI’d venture the cloak was to hide his Cutie Mark, a unique identifying feature in the MLP: FiM world
0 likesYou are a vampire
1 likeI am an angel and i have a horn soooooo ......
0 likesSERENITY
0 likesThis was not made 4 weeks ago
0 likesCough Cough Umberfol from the mlp RP game cough Cough (Btw Thats a City.)
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0 likesSo rarity is sombras child
0 likesWere is sombra's cuite mark mention it next time ‼️
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He doesn't have one.
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0 likesomg i didint nowe that
0 likesGot it absorb
0 likes2:58
0 likesHi my name is Mena and you need to Lerne about king sombra he was born as an alicorn
0 likesOhhhh goodd this on murder of me
0 likesMmm... well the summer summer sun celibration had made because of nightmare moon banased and it is summer sun celibration not winter moon celibration so what happened ves to luna about it
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Sorry so what gives to Luna 🤣
0 likesThe wrong videos
0 likesand he dıed
0 likesHave ever think about writing storys
0 likesSo that means that king Sombra what is rarities dadI haven’t really watch the whole my little pony show even though I’m a little girl or a hello so I’m literally nine and I still look like a teenager come on how am I looking like a teenager when I’m already nine food is that appropriate but is king Sombraand rarity are related
0 likes👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 BROVO
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0 likesalso u forgot that there celestia is monster look i forgot and Can u do a vid of all the villains or monster of My lil pony monster of a here powers or stuff idk
0 likeswhy he no cutie mark?
0 likesSom-bruh
0 likesI thought you kept saying Sandra xd
0 likeslikely story
0 likesCreepy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesCooooooooooooooooollll
0 likeswow
0 likesIt maybe could be
0 likesYet sombro
0 likesbut the comics?
0 likesWhere are sombras ears seriously
0 likesThis is a great guideline of sombra since they didn’t give much explanation on the season thank you 💜
1 likeOk so like one more thing. I’ve seen some of your older videos before Mr. Sawtooth and I have a few things that may help out with revising old theories or building new ones.
0 likesWhen Twilight got the magic from the three princesses, and when she raised the sun, her hair was wavy. Since we know this is something that comes with age, Alicorns may become stronger over time. Also her form after unlocking the box I do believe also has wavy hair so it may be just high magic power that causes it.
The second is a point that you originally described as not having enough evidence if I remember correctly. Do you remember the whole discord is a creation of grogar theory? In that episode you said Dr. Wolf had a theory that “given” magic is different from stolen magic. If you look at the Friendship games movie, you can see that when magic is given (in this case by human Pinkie Pie, Rainbow Dash, Rarity, Applejack, and Fluttershy) it seems to be on par or even more powerful than the stolen magic that Human Twilight used. But the more important point is that unlike when Twilight stole the magic, giving it didn’t seem to tire out the Mane 5? Unlike when Twilight stole the magic.
Hmm... Awesome theory, but how did the Crystal Ponies/Empire come to be? I get that they were in a completely separate civilization, but would it also maybe work if they were the ponies that Sombra stole the magic from? Just thinking... let me know if I have any point I honestly don't know!
1 likeI like you storytelling in this video it really seems to add up to Sombra's Character
0 likesVery interesting. I stopped watching after Season 5 but have been catching up in lore. All of what you said could very well be.
0 likesYour theory is really interesting and I agree with the idea of the alicorn amulet's relevance to Sombra. Although, I have my own theory about his magic.
0 likesI personally see his dark magic and the corrupting powers of what caused Luna to turn into Nightmare Moon as very similar, perhaps even the same. However his desire for power and his hatred for being shunned and foiled permanently corrupted him and couldn't be removed with the elements, unlike with Nightmare Moon. Perhaps he can be reformed if he ever were to come back into existence (I'd like to think he can, because I like to personally hypothesize that even if you are stripped of Alicornhood, if you were corrupted by dark powers you might probably still be immortal or at least have an extremely long lifespan.) but it would be very dangerous and difficult.
I'd like to think even someone as awful as him has a chance, if you theorized The Evil Three do as well.
...Now I actually want to write a story about this.
Hey Sawtooth Waves, just wanna say what if we have this partly wrong? Although alicorn magic is meant to be a fusion of earth ponies, Pegasus, and unicorns, what if what they make is what they came from? An ancient magic that was the original harmony, that was lost when tensions with the tribes rose. After all, who is to say that there was never any connection between the tribes? Could it be that there are many ancient spells long lost that have the power of three into one... a harmony or a discord
0 likesI feel like there should be an episide just on his backstory
0 likesA comic came out call the magic of fiendship that explains the backstories for sombra, trek, crysilis and a bit of story on something nightmare moon
0 likesIn the comic it states that he was found outside the crystal empire as a filly. He stood out and literally had one friend whom he grew up with. A festival for The crystal heart would happen each year and on that day he would fall ill, it getting worse with each year.his friend became queen out of grief and anger from a lack of a cutie mark and from being basically pushed away from his one friend since he wasn’t a crystal pony, he runs away and finds a crystal in a snow storm and that crystal ends up being his mom (I know it’s weird but it’s apparently canon) and she’s like “you have power but you have to get rid of the crystal heart” and ends up in unlocking sombra’s true potential to which he goes to steal the heart and gets confronted ending up in him turning his friend (who became the princess of the crystal empire) into a stone/crystal to which the next bit is fuzzy but after that he goes into the sombra we know from the show and ya know, enslaves the crystal empire in his iron hoofed rule.
Hmm so I was thinking maybe all the alicorns have something in common. It seams that all the ponies that became alicorns had a very strong goal maybe you have to have magic from all 3 tribes but you also might need something else too, a goal. King samba wanted power, Celestia and Luna wanted to help all the ponies by raising the sun and moon, Cadence wanted to spread love and loved doing it, Twilight wanted to learn more about friendship and help others with their friend ship problems, Fluryheart was born that why but she always knew her goal. And Cozy Glow wanted power just like Sumbra. But thats just my theory.
0 likesPoor Sombra I feel sorry for Sombra.
0 likesHe should get a second chance.
Really thought out, well done.
0 likesWhen you've read the comics and know that Sombra never had wings and wasn't killed by the elements just banished back into the place where his species are trapped from taking over Equestria.
0 likesAlso there is a good king Sombra in an alternate world where Daybreaker is pretty much the main evil, and there is a comic where unicorns steal Rd wings except they just get stopped before they can put them onto their bodies and turn into alicorns.
Wow! That’s a good explanation! Do you think you could explain where the two sisters where born?
0 likesAAANNNDD, I have some information on the student 6’s elements.
0 likesIn the episode ‘uprooted’ the tree of harmony created a shared dream that the student six were in. At the end of it, the messenger for the tree of harmony put down their hoof and created 6 lines, all connecting to each of the six!! THE COLOURS WERE THE ELEMENTS THE EACH OF THEM HAD!!
Yona had honesty
Smoulder had a white element (probably loyalty)
Gallus had laughter
Sandbar had generosity
Silver stream had kindness
And Ocellis had a yellow element (probably magic)
I could be wrong with this, like they could have made entirely new elements of harmony but I am sure I’m into something here. I’m not skilled enough to look into any of this further, but that’s the most info I have.
Hi I love how you vids always makes sense and I absolutely adore them but I got something that I keep thinking about and that is flowing manes. Celestia and Luna one of the pillars(forgot her name) and also sombra has flowing manes before twilight but I want to know how does that happen? I originally thought maybe because of strong magical power that made them all have flowing manes but starswirl and starlight had magical powers but they don’t have flowing manes so I then thought what if it only works on alicorns but then I remembered one of the pillar isn’t an alicorn but a strong unicorn and also sambra probably got his mane flowing from that ancient magic you talked about in this vid. Also my brother said that celesta and Luna just casted a spell just to make their mane flowing which I don’t think they did tbh as I think it all had to do with magical power. Now I have evidence (that may not be that strong tbh) and that evidence is that when cadence luna and celestia had to give all their magic to twilight in season 4 twilight mane started to flow for a like a couple of seconds and I think the reason why it didn’t stay like that when the princesses gave their magic is because twilight couldn’t handle that much magical power as she couldn’t even control the sun and moon properly as she was new to it. Now that twilight is much stronger in magical power I think she can now handle celestia’s and luna’s strong magical power as I think celestia and Luna gave their magical ability to twilight to raise the sun and the moon right? Or was it that little device that celestia and Luna put magic in well I ain’t sure so I think they did give magic to twilight. So basically in conclusion I think it’s got to do with strong magical power but like starswirl and starlight have strong magical power but i dunno so like could you do a video on this it would be great if you did because I ain’t that intelligent to really think this out
0 likesI even think Sombra wasnt real in last season, as Discord prooved to be able be multiple entities at once, why would be so hard to disguise one of self as Sombra to bound rest villans together and proove them they cant do it on their own
1 likeWhen Trixie took the alicorn amulet and put it on why didnt she become an alicorn? I'd love to see your theory of this :3
0 likesSo far I like your theory but it does bring up a question I have and that is why did King Sambra loss his cutie mark? We saw how when Cozy Glow lost her Alicorn magic she still had her’s so that will still need some explanation. Honestly I still don’t get why he never had a cutie mark in the first place. I remember being really disappointed when we saw his cape blowing in the wind and their wasn’t one. Off topic your video had me wondering where did the six artifacts used as plot devices in season 8 even come from? I mean aside from ponies, hippogriffs, changlings, and dragons griffons and yaks don’t seem very magically.
0 likesSooo how did trixie use the amulet? I’ll give it to ya that the magic forms from sombra to the amulet look similar.. I dunno just more curious
0 likesI think that the amulet Trixie wore in the begging of the show where she and twilight had a face off may have been made by him considering the red and that red magic went around her eyes in the shape of so bras dark magic
0 likesI think we can narrow down Sombra's origins to the same group of Unicorns Mistmane came from. The home Village Mistmane came from the Unicorns have curved horns, Sombra has a curved horn.
0 likesSawtooth, let me ask you this: Is Star Swirl meant to be a villain?
0 likesI mean, Star Swirl made Discord appear. Star Swirl made Tirek into tyranny. Star Swirl made Stygian into the pony of shadows. Star Swirl terrorised Equestria Girls by teleporting artefacts from Equestria.
My theory is that ponies turn into alicorns when they create a type of magic that affects or affects all types of ponies (celestia and moon with the sun and the moon, cadence with love, twilight with friendship). By creating this type of magic qualities are absorbed from all types of ponies. This would apply to king sombra, with his mind control spell and to Twilight repairing the star shirld spell because that spell would change cutie marcks without seeing what kind of pony they were.
0 likesSombra had so much potential, but he's also way too dark of a villain to be used to that potential in MLP
0 likesI have a question...After Luna was banished to the moon.. Celestia took Luna's responsibility too So does that mean that Celestia knows to raise the moon too?
0 likesbefore he got all dark he still had like goodness untill when he was walking he saw dark something which did the same for luna and made him made a transformed then went for the princesses
0 likesI thought there was a graphic novel about Sombra and how he became how he is....could be wrong lol
0 likesStill think the Two Celestial Sisters are naturally born alicorns. Nice theory thou. I don't t really care what Celestia said in the context over Flurry Hearths birth/existence. The writers treatment of the use of the sisters was piss poor and most of us know this, and that there is more to Celestia and Luna's character and the time of Discord's rule could have distorted time as well history was lost there before the sisters saved the land.
0 likesSo... what IS the deal with curved horns? It's been seen in several unicorns both good and evil
0 likesThat intro monologue tho- 👌
1 likeYour video is so inspiring and I see how you put the pieces together to fill up the empty gaps of the puzzle. You are right about King Sombra. I agree with you 100% I think he was good at some point to.
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What you placed together fits with his character and the life he had lived.
0 likesThis ties together with the comics, the show and the journal of the two sisters. I could be wrong because I don't know much about the comics.
0 likesI don't agree 100% lee I think sombra got his wings But then his wings were gone because I don't know yet but I don't think sombra Is dead
0 likesokay now that my little ponies is over, they need to come out with all the side stories and lore and make mini videos and shows about them.
0 likesSuppose only the Earth type Crystal Ponies were able to survive Sombra's tyrany.
0 likesSee- I agree with what you say here. But there *is* a species of nightmare animals. According to the Nightmare Rarity comic, these nightmare creatures were banished to live on the moon by ... somebody. Using that as proof, that means King Sombra- exactly like Luna- could have been taken over- overpowered by one of the nightmare creatures. I haven’t done a ton of research on this topic at all, this is just a suggestion and a correction. If you read the comic itself, you’ll understand. And yes, Rarity was consumed by the same nightmare stuff that Luna was. It was just never made into a movie.
0 likesALSO! The fact that male ponies don’t seem to get ‘alicorn’ features, like Shining Armour. He’s a King, why wouldn’t he get wings, too?
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I just remembered I made this comment. I still agree with my Analysis here
0 likesTbh
0 likesI feel like sombra’s potential was wasted in the show 😔
You should watch the tale of one shadow King Sombra story of how he turned
0 likesOr was it the end because when he tried to go back in the crystal empire his horn was cut off his horn was inside the protection blob and the horn kinda teleport him inside so at the end if the story his horn was cut iff witch means he could still live waiting or making himself stronger jolo
0 likesHave you seen the video A Tale Of One Shadow ? Try adding that story of him to add with your theories, and get back to me on what actually happened to him. I want to know if this will help.
0 likesTHIS IS SUCH A GOOD THEORY I LOVE IT!!
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Disliked your comment.
0 likesQuick problem with the story... The Summer Sun Celebration only started happening AFTER the banishment of Luna.
0 likesthat does sound right but there is one question that i have but doubt it will get solved. what ever happened to his own daughter? did she go crazy or something....or is she somepony we already know?
0 likesKing sombra's backstory is really creepy to me
0 likesHi Sawtooth,
0 likesSorry, but I believe in the journal of the two sisters it says that Princess Platinum's Father is named King Billion, not King Cobalt, perhaps her mother is named Queen Cobalt, I didn't read that part. It's a good book so far, you should read it. PS, Thank you for using footage relating to my theory that I commented about in you video, "solving the Allicorn amulet"!
Thank you, Foxplay.
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yeah i agree
0 likesSo actually I didn’t see Sombra as an unicorn at like the ending.
0 likesWhat about his horn? when he was ''blown up'' his horn is still in intact could that change something
0 likesSombra is basically the ponified version of Dracula (vampire) or Vlad lll. Also sombra has no cutiemark, but he has fangs.
0 likesHow come Trixe didn’t get the wings when she put the emulet on tho if the power of all the pony’s were in it?
1 likeI was looking back on the mlp equestria girls and noticed that when they transform twilight gets wings but when she goes through the portal in spring breakdown she's just a unicorn 🤔 I wonder why that is ?
1 likeWow this guy had a more subscribers than I thought I thought he only had like 100 K but I have the watching this channel for a year
0 likesI have a small theory it’s not very good and doesn’t have much thought put into it but..
0 likesWhat if Trixie is an ancestor of King Sombra that’s why she took the amulet, for revenge. That’s why she wanted to take down Twilight because she was close to Princess Celestia
And ya know Princess Celestia and Luna took him down along with Starswirl like sawtooth said.
Again it’s not very good 😅
It was just a quick thought
Even if it doesn’t match up with stuff in the show it can still be a story on its own.
I'm guessing this is going to explain why there is no kings or queens of equestria just princesses. (Since Sombra was a king.)
0 likesWhat music did you use at the intro? Its amazing!
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Stop the Bats (Sawtooth Remix) ^^ thanks!!
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves OMG HI!!!!
0 likesThe only reason I dont agree with this is cuz Celestia and Sombra actually used to love each other. It was in the books that it was shown
0 likesWell shadow ponies can exist but if so they would problably stay in the shadow’s unless something happened but I also think that if they existed then they wouldn’t have to be evil if they had been in the shadow’s for all that time mabye their magic even got out and uncontrolled it caused the transformation for Luna to nightmare moon
0 likesLove the vids
Any theroies on the Well of Shade from season 7? My theory is. It the place where unicorns and other magical creatures practice Dark and forbidden magic in secret.
0 likesWho were the original rulers of the royal empire? and where did they go?
0 likesWhat about the origin about the crystal empire? Is there a ruler in the crystal empire before sombra came? Crystal ponies need a ruler right? What's up with the castle without a ruler?Before sombra came
0 likesThe idea is So creative tbh
0 likesmaybe some of sombras magic went into the crystal heart
0 likesbecause in one episode cadences alicorn magic kept the barrier going
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you should do a video about the crystal heart
0 likeswoah...this is a throw back I needed.
0 likesI kinda feel bad for sombra because he got replaced by two young alacorns.
0 likesyou should read a real mlp book that I hope you can call canon. the journal of the two sisters.
0 likesHow King Sombra came to be
0 likesDUKE'S MAYONAISE
Hey, um, Mr. Waves? I was wondering...
0 likesCould the fate of Infinite Eclipse ever actually happen?
(If you don't what that is, you should check it out).
I think sombra created alicorn amulet to capure prinesses magic
0 likesHis necklace do thingy reminds me of when trixi nicked the alicron element
0 likesWAIT OMG THIS MAKES SO MUCH SCENE AND TO THINK HE COULD OF HAD A DAUGHTER TO LIKE WOAH
0 likesWhen twilight goes back Through the mirror she saw a another twilight,what about sunset glimmer?
1 likeSooo........Its Celestia's and Luna's fault that Sobra did what he did?
0 likesActually the answers are in a manga he was never an Alicorn but he is a completely different species of pony he's not even really a pony he is some sort of dark fairy that they put into a ponies form so he could dominate their world he was never a pony and never will be that's why he looks so different and is so different he is a shadow creature and is not to be confused with a unicorn his species is called an Umbrum if you need more information read the third manga of My Little Pony friendship is Magic
0 likesI think it's Gusty the great instead of star swirl
1 likeI got a theory if u read this then my theory is that if you go back when all the people separated (season 8 I forget the name and episode) when she tears the papers off their all connected to discord
1 likeIm just wondering if Princess Platinum just sat idly by during all that and if King Kobalt didnt care about her. A tangent, I know.
0 likesI can't imagne how smart you are
1 likeSuper! That's a great solver.......everyone cannot tell like that......that's not a real pony......it human.....That guy is brilliant......I must say.......🧠🧠🧠good brain he had.........😘😘😘
0 likeslove the intro
0 likesThat was epic
0 likesi love the vampire part im like so good for halloween
0 likesI think everything you said is right
0 likesBut king Sombra didn’t disappear because in season 9 appeared
0 likesSo,Sombra is an ex alicorn 👍
0 likesRandom mlp question:Why do certain Pegasi have trails and some don’t I get it has to do with speed but pony’s like the wonderbolts have them? (except dash
0 likesEverybody gansta until sawtooth posts
0 likesI like the new theme in the background
0 likesI think so this can be the past of king
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sombra
0 likesI love this guy
0 likesHow King Sombra came to be...
0 likesmario ad music intensifies
I KNOW MORE EQUESTRIAN HISTORY THAN THE ACTUAL WORLDS 😂😂😂
0 likesYou are right like all the time ❤️❤️😁
0 likesMaybe it could been because of his daughter to but I do agree with you to
0 likesDid king Sombra have wings
0 likesHey sawtooth you should be the element of sweetness.😄😄😄
1 likeStarlight should be a alocorn you should make a video about it
0 likesDo you Believe the MLP comics are Canon to the show? Cuz it shows The origins of King Sombra.
0 likesOml, the baby versoin of sombra is so CUTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
0 likes"Rumors from questionable sources" um the comics are considered canon UNLESS something in the show directly contradicts them. They're not 'questionable'. Sorry but it's really kind of annoying to constantly have the comic writers contributions to MLP:FIM lore tossed aside like it's meaningless.
0 likesReally great story but I have to crush your dreams, There is a official diary from the sisters and there the king is not called kobolt and is neighter Sombra
0 likesThey literally gave me an ad for an R rated movie about a serial killer on a MLP theory video XD
0 likesHey, I think these are so good! Lul, I know a lot now about meh fellow ponies
0 likesSawtooth please read my reply to @Andrea and see if my head cannon is right about sombra and honestly i would say it matches the cannon alot
0 likesHe sacrificed his life for pakistan 😭🖤💔
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What
0 likes.... I never knew he had wings............
0 likesI mean there is FIENDship is magic which explains the villians backstories though i dont really know if those are canon anymore
0 likesOk idea: could Sombra be reformed and if he could, what would happen and how would he be reformed
2 likesThis is your worst theory so far! Good Job!
0 likesInb4 Hasbro steals this entire story.
0 likesWOW.Just,WOW
0 likesThis is why I subscribed
0 likesDude did u see grogars lair on celestias map in the episode were they went hiking and stuff
0 likesWhat is Sombra's cutemark ?
0 likeshey do a theory on qiubble pants on why he and daring do look similar they look identical
0 likesi deleted my comment oops, this is a rewrite
0 likeswasn’t the journal of the two sisters confirmed canon? i believe they said the unicorn king’s name in it when he came to visit celestia and luna, princess platinum was with him
i remember this cause i’ve read it an unhealthy amount of times, but if they didn’t say his name, it could very well be sombra
I thought they was gonna tell us from the show
0 likesIn the Journal of two sisters book. King Bullion was princess Platinum's Father. Idk about the show though.
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the book is the show, but an extended siris-of books!(how in the world do I spell siris? its like spelling style)The books are things that we do not REALLY need to know to watch the show.
0 likes@EG and AJ
0 likesTrue but i just wanted to point that out. Besides Sawtooth won't really care about it anyways.
That story sounds right
0 likesCan make one about if the cmc's became alicorns!!
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0 likesBro he was banished because he enslaved the crystal ponies
0 likesNice Sawtooth!
0 likesQuestion does sombra Have a cutie mark ?
0 likesWho is sombra’s wife? He had a saughter sooooo.
0 likesIf sombra turn in an alicorn so you didn't trixie
0 likesPls solve the mystery of aj s parents I don't know if you see this but if you do try to solve
0 likesThe end of my little pony i was thinking about on how pinky pie's daughter looks like flutter shy 0-0 pls make a video about this
0 likesTHIS IS COOL
0 likesSawtooth!
1 likeIt’s KING Sawtooth.
You’re done eatin’ all our apples!
I’ll give it to ya if ya take off that amulet! 🧿
Ok just GIVE ME THE APPLE 🍎
Me: LOL 😂 LOL 😂 LOL 😂
wait wasnt he with that chrystal princess?
0 likesBut what about that fact that Celestia,Luna,Cedence,Twilight,flurry,cozy(if you wanna add her)are all FEMALES you telling me Males can be alicorns too (that big mac can for a fact atchive his dream of becoming one XD you know witch ep I'm talking about)
0 likesI like king cobalt for a name lol
0 likesI think your right
1 likeDoes celestia and Luna have a third sister, because in mlp season 1 episode 3, Rarty is talking about how blue blood is Lunas And celestia nefue, and they dont have children soooo
0 likesSombra is not never was and will never be an allicorn. ever.
0 likesWait.. SOMBRA WAS LUNAS OLD FRIEND AND THEN JEWEL JOY AND DROWNED AND HE DROWNED FROM HIS SHADOW FORM!!!! Thats the answer.. (btw i found out because of he song my dear luna and i think that is the real backstory about Sombra)
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He first found Luna when he was very young, then found Jewel in a cold, snowy place, and then he found the shadow form.. While he fought the ice cracked and he drowned.. the evil took control and bought him to the surface.. (there is a part two)
0 likesWhy king Cobalt sent his daughter instead of himself, to test her ability? When all pony tribs are from hunger and cold , he want to test his daughter!! Worst king ever!! BOOOO!!!!!!
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Answer it! Plz
0 likesCan you talk about your favorite ship fluttercord
0 likesYou know what Sawtooth Waves I really like your channel but can you get of that spooky look
0 likesI have ideas for ur next video...if u need some...
1 likeAbout rarity
About apple jack's parents
About how changelings look in the human world...???(my biggest doubt)
About why starlight and Aria blaze look the same
AND I think Octavia Melody and DJ Pon 3 are SISTERS🤔
AND I saw that Lyra and bon bon, AKA "agent" sweetie drops are... MARRIED (I saw it when I looked closer at the newspaper that twilight was looking at in 'the last problem ' ) !!!
Can u call my name in ur video? Or at least show my comment?
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0 likesWhy did flutter shy come out from the discord portal I think not to sure I have to rewatch it (sorry if this is kinda like a spoiler)
1 likeWhat's wrong with the comic's explanation? Cool video though.
0 likesI like the comics story
0 likesSawtooth collab please?
0 likesWOW !!! 😗
0 likesPersonally, Sawtooth theory make much more sense. I prefer his theories than even the comic book cause i feel it was weird that he easily embrace the Umbrum's fate just by meeting his so-called Umbrum mother and leave Radiant Hope without even a second thought. The comic mentioned he came from an Umbrum's mother and a Earth Pony's Father, than what about his father heritage ? It also leave a room about who is his father and how on earth he have a sex a with the Umbrum which supposedly sealed under the Crystal Empire and why it was sealed under the Crystal Empire ? Shouldn't they move or sealed it on a different place cause it was to dangerous ? It also created a whole different question who is the Umbrum and where did they came from. Beside, the Umbrum theories relies heavily on the Stygian and Pony of Shadow and King Sombra could turn to shadow. There were no evidence of it's existence throughout the cannon material. Even the comic that produced the comic book was indenpendence from Hasbro and the comic was created as Hasbro decided to keep his origin a mysterious. They only got licenced from Hasbro to produced MLP material however they like and was not connected at all. There also leave a question on how King Sombra turn Princess Amore to Black Crystal Statue and break him and if that was Umbrum magic, then why he didn't use it against Spike. There also this " the umbrum army underground and scatters the fragments of Amore's statue across the world so she cannot be restored in time to stop him" which the comic didn't deal. Finaly, in the FIENDship is Magic Issue 1, it was very clear that Twillight and Cadance read King Sombra's diary but it was started with how he was found and named Sombra cause that was the first word he spoke like didn't that mean shadow and ended with Sombra knowing his defeat by Celestia and Luna is imminent, he enacts a terrible curse, and how Radiant Hope is forced to watch as her home vanishes. It was based on a book they found underneath of the Crystal Palace. So, who write the diary and what is the fate of Radiant Hope ? What does that Red Crystal have to do with the Umbrum? What really happened between the Crystal Ponies and the Shadow Ponies? In fact in the continuation of the comic Friendship is Magic Issue 37# Radiant Hope leave Equestria and go into the world of Umbrum and learn everything about them and return to invade Equestria and Crystal Empire, she also revived back and heal Sombra and it end with how Twillight defeat her and she and Sombra became a good ponies and they redemed themselve by traveling the world to find the fragment of Princess Amore that scattered across the world to revived her back and this clearly doesn't work with the final season. Hasbro clearly ignored the comic story line. Of course there are those who proposed a theories to reconciled the cannon storyline with the comic. Beside. all of Unicorn history that were written during the unification of Equestria by the three tribe, the Unicorn attribute it to the what they called representative of Unicorn King, Princess Platinum. The Unicorn King was barely mentioned. If Sawtooth theories was correct than that mean the Unicorn erased the connection between Sombra and the last Unicorn King as the leader of the three tribe surrender their power to the sister Alicorn to became the Princess and ruler of the newly-established Equestria with their advisor conviced them. The reason was more likely the still a bit of tension between the three tribe eventhough the leader have make up and reconciled when they try to explored a new land. Having the Unicorn King became a tyranny ruler would make the Unicorn betrayed the two tribe and brought back the old tension that just about to dissappeared that the Unicorn betrayed the two tribe like before. Starswirl the Bearded could not risk another tension or even starting a war with the two ponies tribe especially since this time if the Unicorn were to be blamed, it would be two against one with the Earth Ponies and Pegasi together against the Unicorn. He wouldn't let all the hard work he put to conviced Unicorn King to send Princess Platinum to meet and negotiated with Chancellor Puddinghead and Commander Hurricane and finaly unify the three tribe and formed a single nation just to be destroyed like that. So he twisted the history to built a good foundation since at that time what the Unicorn King said will represent the Unicorn decision in the history book.
1 likeCan you get a new cutie mark
0 likes2:18 Apple bloom as a crystal ponie hehe
0 likescool story
0 likesUnless king sombra is clestia and Luna’s father
0 likesit makes senc if rarity is his doter she dose have jems as her cutie mark
0 likesWHY DID YOUTUBE RECOMMEND ME THIS VIDEO NOW? It has been 5 days
0 likes:/
Did you notice discord in Fluttershy s house through the window in the intro
0 likesYou are wearing Sombrero necklace
0 likeshow can this make so much sanse?
0 likesYou are wearing Sombrero Nicholas
0 likesuh can i have a 🍎? I hungry 😋
0 likesAre you a fan of my little pony?
0 likesOmg u are the best at theories like DUDE HOW HOW how do u untangle these things and i lived when u finished ur theory and said ‘until discord being a goat 🐐 (grogar) brought him back in failure again ‘ hehe llol
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0 likesWho else has been here for 4 years 😅
0 likesAs their eyes
0 likesI love somby but I have a crush
0 likesSo cool
0 likesIs pinkie pie adopted?
0 likesi remebr you making a joke quite aalongtime ago saying "id better stop before I litterally turn back into mat pat" or something similar and it took me way to long to realize that you whernt acually mat pat
0 likesVampire tooth
0 likesOML TY BRO I BEEN WONDERING I STILL WATCH MLP AND NEVER GOT THAT WHAT AND HOW LIKE IDK
0 likesnice viedo but toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long
0 likesWhy unicorns and alicorns Magic’s the same colour
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the color is because of their cutie mark
0 likesMey be because he hit a titanic
0 likesi am late but how is king S wife
0 likes3:19 doe o.o
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0 likesHis backstory is revealed in the official mlp fiendship is magic comic sry to burst ur bubble
1 likeHai Sawtooth! :)
0 likesWow
0 likesWhy are you’re a bat
0 likesOof.... 😓
0 likeswOw
0 likesWow Dark
0 likesWow
0 likesWow
0 likesThat is not him ohhh
0 likesWow
0 likesWow
0 likesThen y do you have it 🤔
0 likesHi im jade when i was a child i hated villians or the bad people in movie but now that im nearly 10 all the people i hated in movies i now simp for 😀😄😀
1 like🦄👍🏻
0 likesI have an idea on why his horn is curved. He might have been born in the town mistmane was in because they hall have curved horns
0 likeswho is king sombra Real daughter?
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who is princess platinum real dad?
0 likeswho is princess platinum?
0 likesThat story is not true 😔🙁😒
0 likesA suitable way of put it but nice
0 likespeople you mean ponies right
0 likesI think he farted
0 likesCan you make a video oficial is discord is a unicorn
0 likesWatch my ear Luna
0 likesWhat is episode of the the daughter of king sombra
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Hearts warming eve when the 6 do a drama cosplay show of how the tribes came together
0 likesWho is the princess
0 likesnooo U DONT WACH IT becos ther was a litl citol ofhim left
0 likesWait he exist
0 likesWhy are you solving this it is just a made up movie duh
0 likesWhat’s move the road and go numb when you can’t read 609 ram hundred and something written on something then just ran red well how do you want to run a ride and you ruined so. song
0 likes😡🤬sombra
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Hi saw tooth waves you r right about 1thing that everything is right 😂😂😂😂
0 likesThat story is very creepy. There really should be an episode for each of the villains.
2 likesI feel bad for Sombra but lifting up the sun and moon is truly amazing.
0 likesI don’t fully agree with the part where he took magic from all three tribes and became an alicorn, because the two sisters once said in the episode flurryheart was born that they have only seen someone turn into an alicorn by doing a special task
1 likeYou totally hit the nail on it I think! It does sound perfect!
0 likesI just have a few questions.
0 likes1: How did sombra get the power of nightmares?
2: why did he change his name to sombra? I know it means shadow but still.
You forgot about the rich history of the crystal heart. It was heavily alluded to in the episode introducing the crystal ponies. There's also the fact that the crystal ponies identified Cadence as the Crystal Princess. A pony leader that can direct the energy of the Crystal Heart. How was he able to overthrow such a pony? There's also the problem that Sombra has a substantial back story in the comics, however if you ignore that you still have to account for the lineage of the Crystal Princesses. Not to mention the other 5 heroes of Equestria that existed along with Starswirl.
0 likesI like how Sawtooth can take a filly and an amulet to make an entire three videos worth of a theory like dang I would’ve never gotten THIS.
0 likesHere me out.. I think Sombra was thought by Starswirl before Starswirl thought the Alicorns. They are both intelligent and powerful unicorns well versed in magic. Sombra tried to help find a more efficient way to rise and lower the sun and yet he failed, being forced to watch the Alicorns do it with ease and for everything to be handed over to them. Though I do like the idea of Sombra being the unicorn king, it would be interesting if his lust for power had something to do with Grogar, or perhaps he deemed Celestia and Luna as an equally dangerous threat.
0 likesSawtooth waves is big brain for going into detail about this story
1 likeWhat do I think?...
0 likesDamn I asked for a redemption arc for Sombra but I just got an even better deal than what I asked for (A backstory for Sombra!)
Unless the producers say otherwise, this is pretty solid given how little we know about King Sombra / King Cobalt
Honestly I see it, and to my it fills a lot of holes and brings more depth into everything in my mind
0 likesMaybe you could explain on where Grogar's magic after the bell was blasted along with the evil trio. Reason why is because magic appears to follow the same laws as energy and that it can niether be destroyed nor created but given a new form or I guess in magics case return to its original host.
0 likesIs it weird that I don’t like mlp anymore but I still love Theo mans videos? Seriously their so good!
1 likeI like to think that even though comics aren't canon, they contain a lot of off-screen canon lore.
0 likesAs such, I place Sombra as the rightful king of the Crystal Empire, he was indeed an Umbri, but his thirst for power made him crazy. I also make Cadence's mother a younger sister of Celestia and Luna, hence she's their actual niece, and somehow related to the Crystal Empire's royal family so the Crystal Heart recognized her as the rightful leader when Sombra lost his status.
I haven't read the Diary of the Two Sisters, and I want to know how canon it is.
I also have no idea where the Alicorn Amulet would come from, because I don't think it's related to Sombra himself, but to the Umbra in general, like Luna's and Stygian's corruption.
Sombra has a horn similar to the Neighponese. I'm wondering if he got exiled from Neighpon and in his desire for power, he intimated himself in with the royal family of the Crystal Empire for a bid to gain power, but because Mist Mane was Neighponese, she may have known of Sombra's(he may have been known as a different name in Neighpon) actions that got him banished. The Alicorn Amulet may have been created by Sombra to wield power similar to an alicorn, or maybe it was created by Grogar or a as yet unnamed alicorn who was either evil or corrupted(maybe that's what brought down their civilization as implied in the book The Journal of the Two Sisters, there used to be an alicorn civilization) or even another master of dark magic.
0 likesCan we talk about how Sawtooth is technically the game theorist in pony/changeling form?
0 likesI believe that, instead of being jealous of the sisters, Cobalt succumbed to fear. Fear that his people whom he loved so dearly would turn his back on him. Fear of being forgotten. Fear of being no longer needed.
0 likesI think that makes more sense, seeing how he primarily uses fear to control others. In the S3 premiere, the crystal ponies are terrified of him, and even the Mane 6 get anxious, just because of his mere presence.
After the sisters were crowned, he feared he was no longer needed, like he couldn't do anything to help his people any longer. And so, as the ultimate act of revenge, he dedicated his entire life to instill that same fear in others.
When he came back thanks to Discord, he uses fear to brainwash other ponies.
The only characters I know who chose to use fear as a weapon are those who have first-hand experience with of powerful it can be.
being in both the mlp and overwatch fandoms hearing the name sombra is overwhelming (especially since sombra is my main)
0 likesI- as much as I wanna believe this..his entire backstory is explained in the comics. He is in fact an umbrum..but given a unicorn form. He lived in the crystal empire, in an orphanage..the "mirrored" sombra we see art of is from the comics as well. He is from an alternate universe, and Tia falls in love with him-
0 likesI have an idea for future video. I don’t know if it’s already been done, but I would love for someone to make an mlp timeline. That is, from the first episode up to the final battle, how much time has passed in the mlp world. I think it would be interesting to know!
1 like"...until a chaos god brought him back to troll his friends but you get the picture"
0 likesSawtooth Waves 2020
you drew luna and celestia really well!
0 likesThis is so suspenseful and quiet I'm like "is it night time or something??"
0 likesi don’t think the princesses had any interaction with king sombra besides the banishing him, because celesita said that her knowledge to the empire is limited. and i don’t think that’s how he found the crystal empire since it’s part of equestria.
0 likesWow. This is film theory on a whole another level.
1 likeI feel bad for sombra now. I want to give him a hug TwT
0 likessambars good form looks so hilarious i can't help but laugh at it
0 likesNice theory, but there is one small detail, that renders Sombras origin, as a regular unicorn, questionable. The elements of harmony, as well as the crystal heart, are meant to vanquish darkness and cleanse corruption, right? And both of these artifacts pretty much killed Sombra, as if there was no normal pony beneath the dark magic to heal. Personally, I feel like this implies that Sombra was born from the very darkness, that the elements and the crystal heart are designed to combat. Meaning, he's not a real pony and never has been. He may be a sort of demon, or a 'shadow pony' like in the comics.
0 likesWhen you can tell Sawtooth didn't read the comics that had Kings Sombra in them.
0 likesOne of them Sombra got redeemed yes Sombra got redeemed, My Little Pony got you there before you ever did .
He was born in the Crystal Empire, his eyes was green when he was young but when the Crystal Heart show him his future and he thought he could Escape it so he just followed it and one of his friends his old friend tried to stop it and small ways but it didn't work .
I feel sorry for Sombra now :(
0 likesWell until a chaos god acting as a dead goat brought him back so he could troll his friends
2 likesMe : Brilliant wording , my friend
Sombra was an Umbrum filly, then the other Umbrum used their power to cast spell on Sombra to look like a regular pony. Tho he was different from the others... He was grey/black and had no cutie mark, he had no friends... he found a friend named Radiant Hope. They were both different in their own way. But always due the crystalling (or how was it called i dont remember) Sombra felt sick and couldnt see it... it was because he wasnt a regular pony but still an Umbrum, and the crystal heart was hurting him. When he grew up, he ran up to the northern nature, finding a crystal, which was his mother telling him what he should do. He stole the crystal heart, turning Princess Amore into statue and shattering her, becoming a ruler... He though this was his destiny, but didnt know he was able to change it.
0 likesSo yeah, Sombra is an Umbrum.
Also i got this from the Siege of Crystal Empire comic... I really liked it, it was darker than the show so its really good for me as an adult. I also liked the ending of reforming Sombra more, and he was more sympatic to me in the comics than in the show where he was stubborn like a goat
I think that sombra was corrupted by dark magic also I saw the video he tried to save his daughter but then got corrupted so that's how he's evil that's my theory also I think the thing on his neck is the source of dark magic
1 likeI think this also explains why there's no male alicorns,maybe they forbid it due to sombra
1 likeOnly one problem with your theory. The first summer sun celebration happened after the loss of the crystal empire and the banishment of princess luna. Literally the day she banishes her and reraises the sun and makes that day the longest day of the year. She says so after Twilight becomes a princess 😊
0 likesThis actually a good theory that could actually tie into the Amulet theory you have Sawtooth Waves.
0 likesThere are official comics where Celesita used to use the mirror that is featured in Equesteria girls, and goes to an alternate pony world where Sombra is still good and never became evil. He was called Sombra and was just a unicorn... The two of them fell in love but Celestia always had to return to her own world, this alternate world has an evil Candance and a good chrysalis. I will say your theory for how Sombra became evil is somewhat sound.
0 likesthis Is a great theory sawtooth waves, I just have one thing to note, It's that the summer sun celebration couldn't have happened when you're suggesting because the summer sun celebration was made in celebration of nightmare moon's defeat, this is still a great theory though :D :D :D
1 likeedit: Sombra would've had to have lived a really long life because in the banishment scene the princesses had already gone through that head shape transformation thing signifying they'd been alicorns for about I,OOO years. (still a good theory tho :D)
Sombra’s comic origin should’ve been used in the series.
0 likesI wouldn’t say Sombra died, I would say be was banished to the shadows and the only way to bring him back was a dark magic spell.
0 likesIt was also mentioned that the sisters were born as alicorns due to them not having their cutie marks because alicorns age differently, and there was a whole race of them at one point. It was in one of the official books. Sorry I sound rude now.
0 likesThis....changes...everything....and I LOVE IT! ^v^
0 likesmaybe the shadow magic is the form of the elements of disharmony and is everywhere but dormant waiting to posses those seeking more by any means?
0 likesAwesome video sawtooth waves as usual
1 likeOnly problem I have is why a source of love, and the elements of harmony KILL him, it doesn't make sense, the crystal heart wouldn't kill him unless there was something making him extremely weak to love... Then there is the elements of harmony, which REFUSED to kill in any situation, so why was sombra different
0 likesI like your investigation buddy,but I don't think that Starswirl is the one who took away the alicorn amulet from Sombra because if he did then he wouldn't have left the alicorn amulet in a shop where Trixy would find it to defeat Twilight.
0 likesDo you think sombra might be part of the species that must mane was. Their horns are very similar
0 likesI have questions you could make videos about :
0 likes1.Where is human Sunset ?
2. In "Rainbow Rocks", Twilight and her friends had to destroy the Equestrian part of the Sirens to turn everybody to normal. But if the Sirens pass the portal, what would happen to them ?
3. Is human Twilight an element of Harmony ?
4. In "Legend of Everfree", when Sci-Twi uses her magic, she gets wings but when she goes to Equestria, she is just a unicorn. Why ?
5. What are the magical geodes ?
When sombra took over the crystal empire he took crystals down she wasn't strong enough to battle king somba and she stepped down her thrown and ran into the blue goat and the blue goat turn her evil maybe that explains why crystalist is hungry for love
0 likesI consider your theory videos canon 😌
0 likesnice. I'm binge watching the whole series backwards using letupita's playlists. :)
0 likesYou don't become an alicorn by absorbing magic from all different tribes that's just dumb you become an alicorn if your born from either being a decendant of a alicorn or just completing a mighty task from a queen of equestria cozy never was an alicorn just because she had a horn and wing didn't mean she was an alicorn so this theory is incorrect on so many levels
1 likeAlso the cloack rarity wore to represent the unicorns looks like Sombera's
0 likesI still wish they redeemed him somehow
0 likesIf the Alicorn amulet has Alicorn magic, why didn't Trixie become an alicorn when she put on the amulet. You can't say that's because the magic is INSIDE the amulet because Trixie was still blessed with the magic of an alicorn. Also, if Sombra is a pony, why doesn't he have a cutie mark?
0 likeswell perhaps there must be a bit of episode they didnt show. what if star swirl trapped sombra in the amulet and some how sombra escaped and found the crystal empire 🤔
0 likesI feel that it has something to do with the horn, his horn looks different and somepony also has a similar horn
0 likesWell, we have Princess Celestial and Princess Luna, and they don’t have a King/Queen above them. So why should we assume that Princess Platinum also had a King above her? 🤔🤔
0 likesBut if this story or theory is true about Sombra wouldn’t Celestia, Luna, or Star Swirl mention his defeat?
0 likesI think that sombra was corrupted by dark magic also I saw the video he tried to save his daughter but then got corrupted so that's how he's evil that's my theory also I think the thing on his neck is the source of dark magic
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That explains
0 likes"It's a familiar tale, of a once mighty King"
2 likesThe official name for the king of the unicorns was King Bullion
0 likesBut if the Alicorn Amulet houses magic of the three tribes, why does one not take the appearance of an alicorn upon donning it?
0 likesThere’s not really any legitimate evidence for this, but it is a really cool theory.
0 likesSombra had some fricken sharp fangs
1 likeI think that's how he came to be .by the way if only the creator of my little pony cunformd this
1 likeIf Sombra had a daughter, who was his special some pony?
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HmmmmHhHMmM
0 likesthere's a book about how King Sombra came to be in MLP volume 2. You should read it if you want to. Or are you only basing this on the episodes?
0 likesWrong sombra is an umbrage read friendship is magic with so bra on it! It explains that he wasmade into pony form by hos fellow kind and saw what he would become in the crystal heart. He then gets reformed by hope I think that's her name
0 likesAren't there comics about the origins of Sombra? Are those just not considered canon or something?
1 likethere are official comics about Sombras live, so please read them, they tell the right
0 likesIt’s because he used his translocator too early
1 likeOk so how did princess cadance hat to be a alicone in the first place I want to know how.
1 likeI think the old queen was crystal's of the crystal empire it explains why she hungry for love
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The former ruler of the Crystal Empire before King Sombra was a unicorn named Princess Amore. She was a distant relative of Cadence.
0 likesWhat if as soon as someone from the pony world comes to the human world their human counterpart disappears so nobody ever finds out
1 likeMore information on daylight waves next video
Remember kids, if this gets taken down, its canon
0 likesYou forgot one thing the summer sun celebration only happened after nightmare moon was banished
0 likesHey idk if I’m being stupid but if he was banished for 1000 years and he came after Luna then when they defeated Sombra, how could Lune have been there?
0 likesYou have it wrong he didn’t find the Crystal ponies someone said there were unicorn leaders for the Crystal ponies until Sombra and he wen evil I can’t remember who said this but it’s in there please rewatch the episode
0 likesif that's the end of King Sombra then explain season 9 how he reappear after he got summoned and than turned into dust by the mane 6
0 likesOk crazy idea but what if queen crystalis was princess platnums mom and they were the first to rule the crystal empire but then something happened to queen crysalis like the king didnt want to be with her anymore and her and a couple of crystal ponies went out to start a new kingdom and when they found a new kingdom, queen crysalis wanted more power so she cast a spell hoping to make herself and her subjects more powerful but it backfired. (Like mistmanes bff) and her and her entire kingdom turned into disgusting creatures (aka rotten cheese) and the love they once had drained away from them and since they were crystal ponies, they had to go search for more love to feed on. (The spell wiped out their memory of their past) like wouldnt that be so crazy??!!?!?!?!
1 likeSawtooth, the umbrum are in the COMICS. The same comics that gave us the prequel for Tempest. this theory is disproven in the comics
0 likesThis is awesome 😊
0 likesI felt like the story was sad until...
1 likeWeLl!
this would have been in the journal of the two sisters.
0 likes...somba is a unicorn born of dark crystals!
0 likesIf your gonna make theorys at least make sure they match the lore.
Omg, that was just perfect
0 likesIf there were no unicorns in the crystal empire, then what about sunburst and starlight, weren’t they both from the crystal empire, and they’re unicorns
0 likesThis seems plausible
0 likesBut now I'm interested in princess platinum (what happened and her family relationships)
Didn't they have a comic about his origins, though?
0 likesThe pony of shadows could be sombra
0 likesCuz think about it!!
i now feel bad for him
0 likesi just know how he came back him self with the horn
0 likesCan you do a how to reform king sombra in your next video
0 likesThere is a comic of his origin, he’s a shadow pony
0 likesIf it is like this then unlike night,are moon he should also detranform from king sombra to king whatsoever you told
0 likesthat doesnt work. sombra- i mean cobalt, would have been mentioned in the journal of the two sisters. also the ponies didnt give all their love and light then either
0 likesThem:we have nothing on this man
0 likesMe: I can think of a whole book of dirt I have on him-
What if he was the two sisters dad or brother
1 like" ruled with an iron fist... "
0 likesMe: " you mean an iron hoof! >:3 "
Did you know that there are comics from the my little pony series is and in a two to three comics about Sombras backstory and what he is really.
0 likesShould check them. But your theories about Sombra are not the one in the comics and I heard the comics are cannon.
sad story feels like a movie
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poor king cobalt
0 likesI always felt Sombra was Alucard
0 likesdark magic saved him
0 likesOK is NO ONE going to mention that Sombra means Shadow? That's his name now! Also, the way he can be in a shadow form might be something. Idk what it has to do with anything but thought its worth mentiong.
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he is an umbrum which is what he is, umbrum if u dont know are literally shadow ponies this is canon in the comics
0 likesWhat a sombre tale
0 likesHow does he know that much
1 likeWait a minute is there a possibility that rarity is related to king sobra wel because his daughter and rarity do have some things in common
0 likesI just thought that he was from the same tribe as mist mane cause of the horns
0 likeslove the haloween intro
0 likesCan you even de-alicorn-fy an alicorn?
0 likesplease make a video of this he must be ded because dark magic and convince him to join it . but dark magic took his wings
0 likesI love the intro
0 likesI don't care how he was I love him anyway🙄😄
0 likesS. 10. Episode 1. How he lost his wings Along time ago a. Somber. Was born in the. Crystal empire but. When. He saw the queen he was angry and set a. War
0 likesWhat if Sompra was Rarity's great great great grandpa or uncle hmmmm
1 likeWell this explains why he is a blank flank
0 likesi agree it does make alot of sens
1 likeIs it just me or does king colbalt look like prince naveen
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0 likesWait does sombra even have a special talent???? whattttttt, make this a vid, am not so sure
0 likesDoesn't that mean rarity and big mac since in the dream he turned into a alicornwas a alcorn since she got wings and has a horn and is a earth pony
0 likesI like how you dress up as a bat pony on Halloween 🎃🎃🎃
0 likesBut Mistmane has the same horn maybe they are from the same nation
0 likesDo you know how Zambia turns into a villan
0 likesSince when was rarity his daughter- it’s been 3 years since I have seen this show
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No rarity was just playing has a pony named princess platinum
0 likes@Wolf Demon Ohhh
1 likeHis vilan side killed him
0 likesThat makes a lot of sense
0 likesThe summer sun celebration happened after nightmare moom
0 likesOmg when he got his wings his name is prints sombra
0 likesHis horn is like mistmane
0 likesIn my headcanon, Celestia and Luna were born alicorns.
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but they said it never happens before until flurry heart was born
1 like@alolanraichu I said in my HEAD CANON.
0 likesI have a theory kind of idea, if you call it a theory. Twilight Sparkle in Equestria, likes flash sentry, and if we see into the future of her life, maybe she would have filly’s with him, but Twilight in the EG dimension, whatever you would call it. Likes Timber, and if she has kids with him how would that work, ponies that don’t exist in the EG world, and Equestrian girls that don’t exist in Equestria, how would that work?
0 likesIf it was me and the my Little pony show if I made a lot of mistakes and a lot of bad choices all you got to do is fix your problems solve everything
0 likesI think you way too much free time jk it was awesome how you pieces ponie history like that...thats beon awesome
0 likesI think your right!
0 likesI think your theory is good
0 likesI wonder why he doesn't have a cutie mark
0 likesIm not sure too, and heather mistune idk her name (rarity’s favorite legend) she has a different horn idk why
0 likesI like the story
0 likesKing Sombra remember me about Mistmane
0 likesBut what happend to his daughter?
0 likesI don't know maybe he was the devil in mlp
0 likesWhat about the horn?
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Hmmm
1 likeI like this theory
0 likesHave you seen pony life yet
0 likesyo sawtooth we need a face reveal at 500k- 1mil like am i the only one asking?-
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YES!!!!
0 likesits true wath he sede if you look at the cape the cape was blue now its black the cape so its real what he sede
0 likesIs twilight an ex alicorn ?
0 likeshow king sombra came to be...
0 likesAd: aHaHahahHa no
so you found a R.A.M expander (refrence to a comment i made in the last vid)
0 likesWhy did Celestial hair change when shey used elemen harmony
0 likesIdk about that but i did saw like a crystal guard pony with wings soo
0 likesHow did you know that i watched my little pony too its a while now
0 likesSombra is nice how?
0 likesHi im you new fan i wanna ask why starlight light glimmer can't become the alicorn and her magic is soo magical plz explan
0 likesMake a video about tirek and scorpan pleas!!!
0 likesbut i dont understand his horn kept changing @n@
0 likesHey did you know that Hasbro pronounced they are going to make an MLP generation 5
0 likesAm I the Only one thinking They were talking abt the FENNAG sambra at first-
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Nope
0 likesThis was just dark
0 likesI just came here to hear him suffer cuz im the worst.
0 likesDo you hate life in earth?
0 likesThen buy Theia, it has unique life
You can find, maybe you can own a pet!
So yeah buy a THEIA!!!
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1 2 3 ice giants in the solar system
0 likes1 Uranus
2 Neptune
3 Boreas/planet 9
Sorry to interrupt but princess platinum’s dad is king bullion have you read the journal of the 2 sisters you will get every single Iformation I read it twice
0 likesWhy those this story reminds me of a power hunger brown tabby murder?
0 likesHmmmmmm
Can you male a video to show if there are any male alicorns
0 likesHappy Halloween!
0 likesI think its a good one
0 likesWow yup it could be the thing u said
0 likesU means you
Edited - + before ending you were so funny😆
princess celestia and luna are born alicorns
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0 likes5 more days Tell Halloween
0 likesyes your right
0 likesDo a face reveal
0 likesComic fans: **REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE**
1 likehi im Peruvian and...dont understand very well without subtittles Q-Q
0 likesWow ur so smart👏 maybe that is wat happen to him
0 likesThis soo true
0 likesthis doesmt makes sentse the ambulate is ftom shadow king
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0 likesI think that is a great
0 likesWhat do you think about my thoughts
0 likescool into
1 likeEEEEEEEH I MISSCLICKED-
0 likesAre you wareing the amulet
0 likesU hav the amulet u r evil
0 likesOk I think u 1 of the creator of my little pony
0 likesWhat happend with sombra cuty Mark
0 likesI'm sorry i'm from another country
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I mean it
0 likesCsdence is a pegecsis pony allecorn got it so is cozy
0 likesWhen u said came to be a advert came
0 likesOmg!
0 likesPlanetary products
0 likesWow
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This is news maby the life has changes
0 likesI never seen little pony 4
0 likes666k views o-o
0 likesCELIE AND LUNA WHERE BORN ALLICORNS WHEN THEY SAID WE NEVER SAW ALLICORN BORN I EQUOTRIA I WAS THINKING HEY THEY ARE NOT FROM THIS PLACE NOT OMG THEY WHERE NOT ALWAYS ALLIOCNRS DUDE JUST THINK. YOU NEED TO LET GO OF THAT THING THAT YOU KEEP HANGING ONTO ITS JUST NOT TRUE. OR AT LEAST THINK ABOUT A WAY WHERE THEY WHERE ALWAYS ALLIOCRNS, PLS JUST TRY. P.S: SOMBRA WAS NEVER WILL NEVER AND IS NOT AN ALLIOCRN.
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0 likesOOF
0 likesI saw it 3 months ago
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