Many fun ideas but not much in terms of proof. I’d love to learn more about this unicorn king but there’s some flaws with it being sombra.

Like, where princess platinum throughout this whole story? Wouldn’t she have noticed his studying of dark arts and tried to talk him out of it? If she didn’t know, why didn’t she seek answers after his banishment?

His lack of cutiemark can also throw a monkey wrench into the theory. If he was born unicorn, wouldn’t he have gotten his cutiemark by the time he was a stallion? While it is possible to reach adulthood without it within the canon, I find it hard to believe that he was uncertain about what he wanted to do. I suspect he could have gotten his cutiemark in this context when he became the crown prince of the unicorns, when he was coronated as king of the unicorns, when he first was removed from power, when he began studying dark magic, when he first gained all the magic that transformed him, when he was banished from equestria, or when he conquered the crystal empire. Most ponies eventually get them. But hey, maybe his purpose in life wasn’t ruling, studying dark magic, or being forever alone. Maybe the gem took his cutiemark, who knows.

Another issue is in the basis for the story. When Tirek came into equestria he was specifically able to take all types of pony magic. (Except for the magic of friendship but stay with me) He gets Cadence, Twilight’s, Luna’s, and Celestia’s magic. In those moments they have lost the magic that made them alicorns. But, they didn’t revert back to unicorns. What makes this different from cozy or sombra?

Me and my friend think that he’s half Kirin and used a spell to make him seem like a pure unicorn. The reason why Princess Platinum never found him practicing dark magic was probably that he just was like, “I’m gonna study normal, safe, and good magic. It’s pretty hard for me to learn new spells when ponies are watching me, though.” After Sombra’s banishment, she probably was shocked that her father was not the pony she though him to be. She probably didn’t want to talk about father after it. She isolated herself from the world after that.

Edit: The Princesses Alicorn wings and horns are permanent because they were provided by Starswirl’s spell. Cozy and Sombra horns/wings were taken away by Starswirls magic.


what about when you explained how celestia and luna became a alicorn because of star swirl? cuz in this video u said that as they rose the moon & sun and the other ponies gave their love then they became alicorns?? (srry if this doesn’t make sense)


Ah yo do unicorns horns just fall of like that?<br>I mean if not it could that he still had some of the stolen magic left and that's what let him keep the horn

Ah yo do unicorns horns just fall of like that?
I mean if not it could that he still had some of the stolen magic left and that's what let him keep the horn


When you theorized about the elements of disharmony, the element of evil magic would be the alicorn amulet, and in this video starswirl kinda created the element of evil magic. So starswirl created the element of evil magic and magic


You can see,the pony of shadows is alicorn,no stigian i mean the shadow,maybe is a lost in shadows alicorn?


The journal of the two sisters day that the princesses were already alicorns


To be honest why isn’t Discord able to beat everyone. He is pretty much a good. His only flaw is his brain since he only thinks about chaos and only uses he’s magic for chaos well until he was reformed.


Y DO I ALWAYS WATCH THIS VIDEO AT NIGHT , WITH MY 10 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER , IT GIVES HER NIGHTMARES


If you know can you do a crossover theroy about who from the main 6 and their elements would be represented by in the Winx fandom? More simply put- Which of the main 6 Winx girls would be which of the elements/Main pony 6. Please and thank you!


"How King Sombra came to be..."

Add plays

Alright then, keep your secrets.

*"How King Sombra came to be..."*

_Add plays_

Alright then, keep your secrets.


Wait a minute,<br>Isn't the Summer Sun Celebration Celebrated on the defeat of Night mare moon????

Wait a minute,
Isn't the Summer Sun Celebration Celebrated on the defeat of Night mare moon????


Lauren: <b>write that down, write that down!</b>

Lauren: *write that down, write that down!*


I actually helped sawtooth waves solve this mystery! I hope you all enjoyed the video! Bro hoof!😊


There's a whole comic about Sombra's origins that came out in 2015


no more apples for you toot. time to let others have a taste of the apple now. because twilight and the mane 6 taught me it's better to share than using people for my own selfish gain.


I did not watch my little pony G1 and got scared of Tirek and Grogar, Tirek literally threatened to decapitate Spike wtf😵


I feel kinda bad for this him, he had no choice, the sisters did just rip him from being king, it must suck.


Well there is a crystal pony that fell
In love with sombre I watched
The video when I was 6 now I'm 8
So yea.there is a crystal pony from
The crystal empire that fell in love with king sombre.
It started as they were kids but sombre grow wings and a horn while
She grow a horn when they were teenagers sombre and her loved to
Ice skate.When they were adults
They went ice skating but the ice broke were she was standing
Sombre pushed her out the way of the broke ice he fell into the water
Until he was bite by a fish that gave him a strange feeling evry night after that he was transformed into the shadow sombre.Ever since then he was evil and was banished for his
Darkness of shadow.
But the love for sombre never
Ever was destroyed.

Thx for listening to me.


Guys, did any ofyou noticed that Sombra NEVER HAD A CUTIEMARK!!!


wasn't there a comic that told of his origns?


Sawtooth, this is all Hasbro's fault for making sombra suffer so much in pain and I blame them for what they did to sombra too


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Wait why king zombra killed the tree of harmoney :/


Where is the queen that rule before cadence???She got turned to Stone by King Sombra..


How sombra came to be: <br>Immediately gets a hungry jacks ad

How sombra came to be:
Immediately gets a hungry jacks ad

He rage quit so many games he had anger issues lol XD


The only issue is that princess seems to be the head of a monarchy in mlp.


Saw tooth that is the way to get what you want.


what if the king sombra was the king of the crystal empire millennia ago? like, without being mean<br>I think celestia gave him the unicorn amulet to him, because don't have men alicorns, to rule the crystal empire, but the amulet corrupted him

what if the king sombra was the king of the crystal empire millennia ago? like, without being mean
I think celestia gave him the unicorn amulet to him, because don't have men alicorns, to rule the crystal empire, but the amulet corrupted him


If you go on the time on the video 6:58 sombra got really mad and since night mare moon is a thing can’t luna turn into night mare moon with all that rage in her a type of force goes on luna and turns her in to night mare moon that is just me idk


omg i just thought of another awsome idea who are the two sisters parents?


but in the video when he turn to sombra he had no wings in the episodes of my little pony why???


In my dream I was kinda celestia and lunas son and killed zombra who had a fake name called apex and I take him down when I found out that apex really was zombra but took over a kaiju drone and I took him out by both my orbit oblivion and me scytheun in energy from the elements of harmony and the only thing left of zombra and the drone who had helped by holding zombra back but only zombra horn and the drones armour and head left and heres the thing apex back and had showed up and didn't fire his shattered shadow and he doesn't talked the zombra apex did


I think people cheerd for king cobalt then he became an alicorn


Is not evil magic is negative energy yeah if you treated unfair, jealous/envy or negative felling inside heart they become a evil


This actually makes sense... and I LOVE YOU


didnt one of the pillars have a horn like sombra?

Mistmane, but that's because she's based on Eastern unicorns, which have long, curved horns.


Hasbro is gonna siege you you're gonna get it right eventually


Summer sun celebration started after Celestia defeated Nightmare Moon


“Came back for round two” - the brony notion, 2020
Me: dies of round two

“Came back for round two” - the brony notion, 2020
Me: *dies of round two*


"How king sombra lost his wings" <del>shoe commercial</del>

"How king sombra lost his wings" -shoe commercial-

I guess he found some shoes then……. Well………. He didn’t need his wings…………… since he could jUsT wAlK aRoUnD eQuEsTrIa???????????


Hold up hold up hold up RARITY IS SOMBRA’S DAUGHTER


But how did he get jealous even tho he likes celesta and got kids and name Twilight


Theres something off here the sun summer sun celebration was created to celebrate nightmare moons lost but luna was still there in quite confused


I flippin love your theories- they make so much sense-


Think about what we have
heard king sombre
And queen crisalis think
about that🤔


WOW u rite the story EXACTLY how it goes


queen crisalis also has the slit eyes and sharp teath


Then what about your other theory about sombra being a king with queen crisilis and he put then in lockdown


@SawtoothWaves I think the person was Celestia


WHAATTT about the King Sombre & Queen Chrysalis Theory ( they def have some simliarties with the horns fangs and dark magic / eternity, both powerful could he be a changeling too .<br>Where did the 2 princesses come from

WHAATTT about the King Sombre & Queen Chrysalis Theory ( they def have some simliarties with the horns fangs and dark magic / eternity, both powerful could he be a changeling too .
Where did the 2 princesses come from


Is it possible that Princess Cadence is Sombra's descendent?


but king Sombra like the cristal empire he didnt care about the two main princess


There is something you need to know that in comic about king sombra's backstory.He is never a normal pony.He is something call shadow pony or something, I forgot, but all I can say is He never become Alicorn.<br>According to comic call Sombra Rex

There is something you need to know that in comic about king sombra's backstory.He is never a normal pony.He is something call shadow pony or something, I forgot, but all I can say is He never become Alicorn.
According to comic call Sombra Rex


this is what happen sombra was a Alicorn then the sun and moon came and sombra lost hes wings and became bad and want to kill the moon and the sun and when he try the sun and the moon lock him up and he found the necklace and got out.


Sawtooth waves you look cute with the bat wings and the ponted ears


I never realized that he used to be a great king of the unicorns. Although he was bent on corruption, he was a respected leader, until the rise of the Royal Sisters exposed him.

Hmm, then I believe Sombra might have been some sort of Tyrant.

It is never canonically confirmed that Sombra was the unicorn king as far as I'm aware, it just fits with the time line, and definitely makes sense for some parts


If King Sombra had a daughter who is her mother


He is a shadow pony who killed the teacher of Cadance. I have read official comics of mlp fim.

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What about the pony of shadows he amulet could be from sambra or the pony of shdows


Yes, but if king sombra had a kid, then who is the mother?


Wait When You Said "He Sent His Dature" 👧 It Showed I Pic Of RARITY 🤯


How about chrysalis the old queen of the changelings


In my opinion I think he just conjured the power to make an amulet that can do Alicorn magic


Isn't the summer sun celebration a celebration of defeating nightmare moon?


This makes sense but didn’t the summer sun celebration happen because celesta sent nightmare moon to the moon? Or is that something else my memory is a bit rusty


Sawtooth: I think I figured it out. I think I figured out how King Sombra came to be...

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@KystallBunny I’m glad I made you laugh! :D I’ve been home most of the time but tbh that’s exactly what I love to do lmao. Hope you have a good rest of your day!

LOL this comment made my day! And where I live it is Friday!  Or as my teacher likes to call it FriYAY
AND today I had THREE tests and I got a good grade on all of them! Today my lucky day :>
( lol sorry I am a huge talker when I am alone )


Because i have read the evil darkness was real


Sawtooth that is not how you get what you want. Ask nice and polightly.


"well until a chaos god larping as a dead goat brought him back to troll his friends" XD nuff said!!


nobody: <br>me: raretis dad is somboa O-O


Why didn’t the blue unicorn that challenged twilight to a match become a Alicorn?


Yeah Yeah she took over the Crystal Empire😒


I've been watching this over and over again to see if the origin you gave sombra and your theory is perfect


Spoiler alert the comic books reveal somba’s backstory


I need movies or a season of villain origins.


didint the first summer sun celebration happen after nightmare moon was banished long after sombra was even defeated by both the sisters


Dam that story was freak-a-doo-dallying good story


I don't Sombra alone ruled the ponies of Equestria. Look at Celestia and Luna they ruled together. I think Commander Hurricane, Chancellor Puddinghead and Sombra ruled together.

I also think after Celestia and Luna became Princesses they asked the ruler of all tribes to advise and help them to move Equestria into a new era. Commander and Chancellor agreed but Sombra refused and said he wanted to move out of Equestria. The sisters let him go and he went. Soon Sombra found the crystal empire and the is history.


MAYBE SOMBRA AND CRYSILYS WERE MARRIED AND THEY RULED THE CRYSTAL EMPIRE AND THE CHANGELINGS WERE THE GUARDS AND SOMETHING HAPPENED  TO THEM


I thought you said Luna and Celestia were born alicons


Umm you said this a story about how sombra lost his wings it’s more like how sombra became evil

@Sawtooth Waves Hi @Sawtooth Waves! I LOVE your channel SO much!

both of those things happen in the story c:


Wait if king cobalt has a daughter then who is Cobalt’s wife and what happen to her or did king Cobalt adopted her to be her daughter?


“Ugh whatever just give the apple”- sawtooth waves 2020


My point: Actually, King Sombra didn’t die, if you watch My Little Pony on Netflix, it only shows five seasons. Altogether there are I think nine seasons. And around season six or something like that,Shining Armour  and Cadence had Flurryheart. And King Sombra returned

King sombra didn't return in Flurry Hearts crystalling

sawtooth is very much aware of the other seasons


Does anyone else hear King Sombaar?

Where my Indians at


Are you kidding me celestia and princess Luna were natural alicorn🤦🤦🤦


Well his horn not very wired <br>Considering mistmain's horn

Well his horn not very wired
Considering mistmain's horn


This is my first Halloween episode and I love it!


How many times did he say corn in this video?


You got the story wrong because if they were young when he took over why do they look the same as now


Mlp animator’s: wha- we just told that rarity was a princess since it would suit her…


Lmfao I like how he finishes this macabre story with “oh yea discord happened lol”


I love how your cutie mark is a Sixteenth note


King sawtooth waves you can have a Apple 🍎


I think it's a really great theory, BUT we alredy know where he is from. I can't remember the name righ now, but there is a comic about him and his best friend Radiant Hope. There is also a comic where Radiant Hope and Princess Cadence talk to him and with the umbrum ponies.  But I still love your theorys, it's mind blowing.

@Camilla Hearsch oh I'm Sorry i didn't know that, thanks for telling me tho 👍

The comic series is called 'Fiendship is Magic' and the issue was the first one, if I remember correctly.  There was also a sequel to these events in the main comic series, too.  I wished that the comic creators and show creators actually worked together for consistency sake and not create what I call 'timeline continuity' issues.  It's pointless to create a comic if it ain't going to follow the show's line of events.

On top of this, I always thought the sequel story was the most shining example of friendship's power in G4.  It was the words of Sombra's childhood friend, Radiant Hope (not the Main Six and their rainbow beams) that defeats and reforms him in that case.  It's such a shame that the show creators didn't focus on that.

That comic isn't canon, The writers of the show said that it wasn't canon to the story

And that comic would have been considered canon if Sombra wasn't the villain of the season 9 premier since he reformed in that comic.


No. Discord took Sombra from tartarus. Sombra wasn't killed.

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ok just read the mlp comics 34 35 and 36 It explained his entire backstory


This still doesn't explain his "resurrection", death feint by the elements, and how Discord even considered bringing back Sombra<br>(Don't answer that last one)

This still doesn't explain his "resurrection", death feint by the elements, and how Discord even considered bringing back Sombra
(Don't answer that last one)

@fun time with aya The channel "letupita725hd★" has almost every episode. That's how I watch.

@Jennifer Smith how do you get s9 i only have s8


What if rarity is related to princess platinum? They both know about gems.


Sawtooth read fairies and magical creatures and open up to the unicorn page


Sombra was the first  alicone befor named king sombra


How the hell do people think of all this?!?!


Wait a minute I might know who’s oh no is a MoveOn in Somers and then Sombra may seem not like princess some more but salon can’t do you


Celestia and Luna are not naturally born Alicorns. The only naturally born Alicorn is Flury Heart (daughter of Cadences and Shining Amor ( Twilight's big brother)).


He tun evil when he was in his teens from a dark crystal called his mother


Okay I noticed that king Sombra does not have his cutie mark strange


I wonder why trixy did not change into an alacorn. I know she got the powers of an alacorn but why did her physical form stay the same?

She not get the power of three tribes

She got power


U do know the summer sun celebs took only started after Celestia banish Luna cuz Luna has been banished about a thousand years and according to twilight the first summer sun celebration we saw in the first episode is the 1000th summer sun celebration so yeh


He have wings  when he was a kid it have wings


Mist mane has the same kind of horns as king sombra


I think celestial and Luna we’re all without the corn even though there is no proof


Doesn't luna have a crush on sabra, what about that


This is canon, I don’t care what you say


Summer Sun celebration was made because nightmare moon was banished by celestia but how come luna was there?


why didn’t shadow go through the portal and look like a human why didn’t you think about that


Me: starts up the video WHOO! Can't wait

Also me: Is... Is that your Bats remix? That fits so well here!

Me: *starts up the video* WHOO! Can't wait

Also me: Is... Is that your Bats remix? That fits so well here!


If he is,if he was king,who would be his daughter and..is she still alive?..


Wait wait why do you have to dig so deep into a kid show my man tell me why


Umm sawooth waves at the end you said his death but sombra came back to the crystal empire and canterlot and controlled evrypony


Sawtooth:how sombra came to be..

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The alicorn sister is an alicorn since they was little


The comics fiendship is magic tells his whole story, this is very wrong


I mean, the comics go into his backstory and how he was called to the darkness. That could have been some help for research.


Sawtooth:SoMbRa iS nOt A nOrMaL uNiCoRn bruh heard of mistmane?


Science Godzilla World of history and fun


Maybe he was not jealous but of the powers of Luna and celestia


I think you're wrong sawtooth. My theory is that Princess Platinum was indeed the daughter of the unicorn king, but I think sombra was actually platinum's older brother. My backstory is is that sombra was supposed to be the next unicorn king, but the crown skipped him, and went to his little sister. This made sombra very angry, so he set out to plan revenge; vowing that he would return more powerful than ever before. He found the crystal empire, stripped the crystal ponies of their magic, (taking wings and horns as well) and the rest is history. Drop a like if you agree.

@Sophia Roseblack  But Mat pat does it the best!

@Mohd Ghazali i don’t think that he forgot i think now that i am just gonna say that neither me nor u make any sense and only sawtooth does OK

@•H H• No, your is much weirder than Sawtooth. Second, Crystal Ponies was different from earth Ponies, it was evidence by their eyes and even Princess Celestial said their empires was very ancient and much older than the existant of Equestria itself. Thirdly, it was actually weird that you proposed that Grogar told him to go to Crystal Empire, yeas it was magical but they only had crystal ponies which is a seperated ponies tribe that have built their civilization much earlier, it would make much more sense if that was the first place to started but you relies on Grogar "forgot" which don't male any sense. Fourthly, you theories relies heavily to "forgot" like Grogar forgot to tell him to get magic from the three ponies tribe. Fifthly, King Sombra lore clearly said he rule the Crystal Empire with iron fist and cause many Crystal Ponies suffered, when the twin Alicorn came and defeated him the entire empire dissapeared with him which you haven't explained. Sixthly, in the final season, The Beginning of the End - Part 1, Sombra is restored by Grogar to join him in an alliance with other villains so they can conquer Equestria together and defeat Twilight and her friends once and for all. However, Sombra tries to take over Equestria by himself and, despite being able to destroy the Tree of Harmony and the Elements of Harmony and conquer both Ponyville and Canterlot, he is defeated again by the Mane Six. A that time, he doesn't recognized nor shocked with appearance of Grogar, he just believe that he didn't need anyone help. Seventhly, Grogar and Gusty the Great was ancient tale that exist long before the three tribe, it was clearly said the very beggining and King Sombra rule Crystal Empire during the existence of Equestria which the time span between the arrival of King Sombra and Grogar was far too long, in fact even Princess Celestial didn't know anything about Grogar and Gusty the Great but she know very well about King Sombra except his origin. Eightly, create an evil sinister unicorn ? That is far to vague and how did Grogar even created him, using whose magic when he was defeated by Gusty the Great, sealed and his magic was sealed alongside his bell which were sealed with no power ? If he was still able to created Sombra after his defeated and seal, why he didn't go anyfurther than Sombra. Beside the Grogar defeat at the hand of Gusty the Great was far a vague story and we didn't anything about both of them. Your theories relies on imagination. Personally Sawtooth theory make much more sense. Beside i prefer his theories than even the comic book cause i feel it was weird that he easily embrace the Umbra's fate just by meeting his so-called Umbras mother and leave Radiant Hope without even a second thought. It also leave a room about who is his father and how on earth he have a sex a with the Umbras which supposedly sealed under the Crystal Empire and why it was sealed under the Crystal Empire ? Shouldn't they move or sealed it on a different place cause it was to dangerous ? It also created a whole different question who is the Umbras and where did they came from. Beside, the Umbras theories relies heavily on the Stygian and Pony of Shadow and King Sombra could turn to shadow. There were no evidence of it's existence throughout the canon material. Even the comic that produced the comic book was indenpendence from Hasbro and the comic was created as Hasbro decided to keep his origin a mysterious. There also leave a question on how King Sombra turn Princess Amore to Black Crystal Statue and break him and if thatw as Umburm magic, then why he didn't use against Spike. There also this " the umbrum army underground and scatters the fragments of Amore's statue across the world so she cannot be restored in time to stop him" which the comic didn't deal. Finaly, in the FIENDship is Magic Issue 1, it was very clear that Twillight and Cadance read King Sombra's diary but it was started with how he was found and named and ended with Sombra knowing his defeat by Celestia and Luna is imminent, he enacts a terrible curse, and how Radiant Hope is forced to watch as her home vanishes. It was based on a book they found underneath of the Crystal Palace. So, who write the diary and what is the fate of Radiant Hope ? What does that red crystal have to do with the Umbrum? What really happened between the Crystal Ponies and the Shadow Ponies?  In fact in the continuation of the comic Friendship is Magic Issue 37# Radiant Hope leave Equestria and go into the world of Umbrum and learn everything about them and return to invade Equestria and Crystal Empire, she also revived back Sombra and it end with how Twillight defeat her and she and Sombra became a good and they redemmed themselve by traveling the world to find the fragment of Princess Amore that scattered across the world and this is clearly doesn't work with the final season. Hasbro also clearly ignored the comic story line. Of course there are those who proposed a theories to reconciled the canon storyline with the comic.

Once upon a time grogar thought that he will need someone to get magic from all three tribes to make him powerful enough as he was banished by gusty the great and he needed to get out so he got the shadow and used a spell to make a evil sinister unicorn which only looked like a unicorn so its easier to make the tribes manipulated then he sent him on the quest and told him about the most magical land of all times ‘ the crystal empire ‘ but he forgot to tell him to get only magic from the three tribes so sombra took over a empire of only earth ponies and had no problems with it he thought magic of the ponies and crystals then as he failed and was destroyed he was back to his shadow form from which grogar found him then the sisters trapped him in the ice and when they did so grogar got alerted knowing he had no power he waited for a thousand years and brought back the empire and sombra as he didn’t knew that that empire had only earth ponies sombra when came back also was defeated then in the end of the end be got sombra back faster as he was free then sombra refused to join forces with his very own founder because he was over realmed by power of the empire and fortunately for us he was defeated and that was the end of king sombra and this actually matches the best with the cannon

First thing here crystal empire’s citizens don’t even have wings or horns they all are earth ponies second of all sombra never had a sister third thing sorry sawtooth but i dint even think he ever had a daughter and i think he was created by grogar as he knew the way how to bring him back to life

Im not trying to be mean I guess it's not my taste

@Lost_Films32 it kinda is childish though

@Lost_Films32 wait you still watch that stuff

@Sophia Roseblack Didn't intend to start a fight. I guess I agree.

@Ancent now now. Don't start a fight. Everyone has their own opinion and we must respect that. 👍 And I do respect yours. It's good.

@mothgirl™ No. They added a 'brother' (Sombra and Platinum being siblings) into their 'theory' even though that idea/character/influence has no proof of existence in any MLP show nor comic in any relation to Sombra. That is already a fanfiction, even if they probably don't think so; it comes straight out of that person's creative mind, not by seeing the characters and/or background and connecting them. And that's the key. Existence and mention. A theory is supposed to try to add already existing things in literary/visual work together, like Sawtooths' theory of Sombra's possible wings by connecting the Alicorn amulets red-black colors, alicorn design and Sombra's very similiar palette and look. Its not limited just to visual things: Words too.

Platinum being 'Unicorn Kings' sister doesn't make any sense. It was clearly said both in this video and the episode that Platinum's father was that king/her being his daughter. If you would change that to a sibling relationship its once again- a fanfiction. It makes no longer any sense in this theory. It has become your creative work. It's the same thing with Wattpad fanfictions shipping ponies who don't seem to have any relation or distorting it into whatever they want.

Self-made characters and/or influences and distortions, whatever they are, out of someone's (creative) mind, (Sombra's siblinghood) do not make a theory to try to solve things. It only creates a fanfiction. On the other hand, this video in my opinion does make good reasonable points that are candidates for being true. It connects existing bits together (which point to very similiar bits and results and yada yada) already done in the show and now it leads to 2 paths: Confirmed or Wrong.

Platinum again. Since she's mentioned in the show (more importantly in Equestria's history), she was an existing character. We obviously don't know what she looked like but that kind of special mentioning is enough proof and context. Apparently she's the daughter of the 'Unicorn King' (also mentioned in the same way) and this king could have been Sombra. Especially when- you connect (random) bits together like he did if you just watch the video-

-Sawtooth explains it all and I won't repeat that. Obviously he also said more than me in this video.

@mothgirl™ No. They added a 'brother' (Sombra and Platinum being siblings) into their 'theory' even though that idea/character/influence has no proof of existence in any MLP show nor comic in any relation to Sombra. That is already a fanfiction, even if they probably don't think so; it comes straight out of that person's creative mind, not by seeing the characters and/or background and connecting them. And that's the key. Existence and mention. A theory is supposed to try to add already existing things in literary/visual work together, like Sawtooths' theory of Sombra's possible wings by connecting the Alicorn amulets red-black colors, alicorn design and Sombra's very similiar palette and look. Its not limited just to visual things: Words too.

Platinum being 'Unicorn Kings' sister doesn't make any sense. It was clearly said both in this video and the episode that Platinum's father was that king/her being his daughter. If you would change that to a sibling relationship its once again- a fanfiction. It makes no longer any sense in this theory. It has become your creative work. It's the same thing with Wattpad fanfictions shipping ponies who don't seem to have any relation or distorting it into whatever they want.

*Self-made* characters and/or influences and distortions, whatever they are, out of someone's (creative) mind, (Sombra's siblinghood) do not make a theory to try to solve things. It only creates a fanfiction. On the other hand, this video in my opinion does make good reasonable points that are candidates for being true. It connects existing bits together (which point to very similiar bits and results and yada yada) already done in the show and now it leads to 2 paths: Confirmed or Wrong.

Platinum again. Since she's mentioned in the show (more importantly in Equestria's history), she was an existing character. We obviously don't know what she looked like but that kind of special mentioning is enough proof and context. Apparently she's the daughter of the 'Unicorn King' (also mentioned in the same way) and this king could have been Sombra. Especially when- you connect (random) bits together like he did if you just watch the video-

-Sawtooth explains it all and I won't repeat that. Obviously he also said more than me in this video.

@Ancent By that logic then everything in the video is also fanfiction

That's the dumbest theory I heard he never had a sister

That's not a theory. That's just a little fanfic you did.

Yeah but the crystal empire doesnt have pegasi or unicorns, so he couldnt get all three types of magic from there.

Probably. But that's just a theory! An MLP theory!


to be honest I cinda feel bad for sambra


Who is king Sombra‘s parents do a video of it


You are absolutely wrong what you want the king Jivan fighting organs shadow in winter thank u broke dice impel down in the river hand Shadow and Shadow joint him that's how we became


6:09 - This is a V&H soundtrack? D'you play?
(sorry, off topic, I know - But I love your videos as always)


you are not right if he was baneshed from eqestria he would have not have tookn over canterlot


0:38  Now you're gonna post a halloween song now??

@Sawtooth Waves Hi, I really liked the theory, it was aswome, but I think, that  on the summer sun celebration, when he got the magic, he got corrupted, because remember season 4 premiere, Zecora asks Twilight to use alicorn magic, and she uses Sombra "Dark" magic.
That's how Luna, and Celestia can turn into Nightmare Moon and Daybreaker, becuase the acess to all their alicorn magic.
Hope you read this!!

@Sawtooth Waves Welp, mind as well check it out. Also, nice video!! Loved it!!!

i posted the bats remix like, 5 years ago!


King Sombra is not the king of the unicorn tribe


Maybe he’s a different ethnicity, that’s why his horn is different, like in the mist mane episodes, the Asian ponies had curved horns


“Well, until a ChAos god turned into a dead goat...”


deathmatch: King Sombra vs Shadow the hedgehog.


What if he has wings under that red cape


Wait if sounds has a daughter what happened to her


His horn is kind of like changnglings horn


Sawtooth, I just can't believe that we're never gonna see sombra again and redeemed this time too 😭😭😢😢


Where did he get so tall and long hair from and why smaller too and the robe


Wait but I have a question. If to be an alicorns means get a lot of magic, when all the princess lost their magic in the Tirek episode, how come they didn't become unicorns/pegasi?

@Esther J I had forgotten that. Good point about Grogar's bell.

That was bothering me too. I just don’t think cozy glow was a true Alicorn, since Luna and Celestia did not revert back to their original forms after being hit by grogar’s bell and cozy glow did. I think she just got a lot more powerful. We also do not know if it was the tribes magic or Grogar’s that made cozy glow into a temporary Alicorn. Oh this is becoming a bit of rant, but yeah, that’s what I think..

@cyanity101 I like that. Sounds good to me.

@Mlp Lost Content Again Twilight gave it willingly to save her friends.

@Caroline L AbbottBut then tirek steals it

@cyanity101 ohhh :O I never thought of that!

I feel like if alicorns give their magic willingly or get taken from them, their physical features stay. But if they become so horrible they are not deserving of being royalty, they lose either their horn, wings, or both.

Perhaps because they gave it willingly to Twilight?


wasnt the first summer sun celebration after celestia banished luna to the moon?


in the crusaders of the lost Mark, Applejack's said to Apple Bloom: if mom and dad wer here they would be proud. so please can you do a video on that

A video of what? 20 minutes of the Apple parents being proud? Now that I think about it, I would watch it. Applebloom deserves it.

רוני בן עזרא


as mutch as i think of allacorns this story is crushing my dream a little help luna hahahhahahaha


In the videos on YouTube Slumbra is an alkorn is a little pony.


One question: so bra has a shadowy mane. Why???????


when i saw the post i was like omg yes lets see what he thinks now


It make sense he's a king it needs wings


But he dident die lol he was freed by grogal the goat man idk his name but he dident become stone so is he still alive in the new gen??


BUT BUT BUTTTTTTT I IMAGINE HE IS FROM THE SAME AREA AS MISTMANE CAUSE OF THE CURVED HORN


Am I wrong that in another video you said the sisters came from another civilization? heh Sorry I dont watch these videos in order

@Sawtooth Waves Oh thank you for clarifying that

thoughts have since changed, no evidence of an alicorn civilization, i think the sisters come from humble origins.


"I'll give it to ya if ya take off you're amulet"
"..."
"Ugh, whatever; just give me the apple"

Moral of the story:
Anything for apples

Dude your voice is so enrapturing and soft it's soothing :D

"I'll give it to ya if ya take off you're amulet"
"..."
"Ugh, whatever; just give me the apple"

Moral of the story:
*Anything for apples*

Dude your voice is so enrapturing and soft it's soothing :D


Sawmooth waves solves another mysteries<br>Hasbro "You know too much"

Sawmooth waves solves another mysteries
Hasbro "You know too much"


I think you should know, sombras Story is already known.


the sun celebration was on the deafest of nightmare moon it was a new celebration I this it was just a celebration of they were crowed


2:38 I like how quick you were to turn around, when you argued against the IDW comics for Sombra's Umbrum origins, and then used a diffrerent issue of the same IDW comics, to try to prove why!

Also, trying to put Luna's transformation into NM as proof of another way of becoming an alicorn holds no water, as she was an alicorn to begin with!


Or a summer and Alcorn he has that look bitch that metal on his body he has like little wings but like he has big wings but they just can’t see them but he’s obviously probably not there’s no boy pony our coats


I think that you are very very right I mean King COBOL into king Samra


Last time I was this early sombra still had wings


Can u do a twivine sparkle episode and her origin please


hello sawtooth as a fello brony I wanna give you a video idea becuase I wanna see what you think is'nt it wierd that sombra and luna both have a bit of control over nightmares I realised this and wanted to let it know to you I know you might not read this but I hope some peaple read this and start theorising


hey you forgot queen chrysalis she is also a alicorn.

She is not an alicorn. She's not recognized as one, either, as she's not a pony.


Omg yessssssss finally I been waiting for this lol 😂😁


Γρηγορης καραδημος


king sombra the monster pony with monster slit eyes and fangs


hm, 666k views? Seems fitting for king sombra


I have a better theory: the comic " siege of the crystal empire " happened in between mlp and twilight in the last episode

it makes wayyyyyy more sense than this


why you killin  synannax's vibe sawtooth

why you killin  synannax's vibe sawtooth


I had a crush on him when i was younger-


King cobalt... to king sombra.. Princess platnium. Rarity is my suspicion. I think that rarity is the daughter of King Cobalt! Why was sbe played as princess plantium?? I will also make a maybe ugly pic but a drawing of rarity mom and pla make a vid where that drawing and sombr- i mean cobalt met and had a daughtter rarity and her long lost brother


What about the comic's?

Oh wait they dont apply with the show...


Sombra is shadow and shadow is prinses luna s friend


I did not know king sombras daghter is rarity


I know you won’t reply but so is it a disharmony element or just a gem with sombras magic


King sobra didnt die in seseon 9 king sombra was back


3:06, doesn’t that ‘shadow’ look like the Alicorn Amulet—?


I think king sombra ia a shadow sorces because her curved horn


Queen Platinum is Rarity huh what if Rarity was his daughter


WHY HAVE YOU NOT MADE A VIDEO ABOUT WHY FUTURE EQUESTRIA DOESN'T HAVE CUTIE MARKS?!


King Sombra is just like a vampire. He has fangs!


Interesting. I could see that happening.


I have an oc, (not a pony) named King Cobalt .__.


wait doesn't sombra mean shadow in spanish


I am Samprada
I have a question
Does king Sombra have a cutiemark??


"how king sombra came to be"
Ad plays
me: DAMMIT

Yep, those annoying ads can bring out the villain in you.


im sad, not bc of the video its bc if you look you get a good bit of dislikes so yaaaaa its sad i say sorry i did nothing but o well


why are your eyes red? i thought they were blue, unless... YOU HAVE THE ALICORN AMULET, THE REAL ONE


I know I'm watching this in 2022 no Sunny is here but I like the old My Little Pony series better and that's all


Sawtooth... You’ve made your video, you have a life time supply of apples. Please take of the amulet Buddy.


but what about his wife he had a kid soo...What happened to them?


I think there was a another wizard but it doesn't make any sense


1:04 lol, just making this so I can watch the videos, everyone else can use it, too. 😂


I keep reloading and the likes are coming like crazy-

Wow i need to listen to it again i didn't recognize it at all


What a Coincidence I'm watching this on the same day it was posted October 23rd


But where’s his cutie mark? .-. We have never saw his mark- Am I right? Or not? It’s just wierd that he has the jacket or what it calls- I’m wondering what it will look like- (Think about it)


And he is the little brother of princess larynx.


I wished the show could of talked about cadence's mom princess amore


Wait there is death so there should be a grim ripper i saw in Ben ten that a crystal palace s the backup drive for a entire planet so i think grim reaper must heve something' like that


There is book that has his origins....

I'm not trying to be mean XDDDD


Is it just me or does King Cobalt look like Gaston from beauty and the beast? Like if you agree.


Look at celestia’s cutie mark it look a lot like the same sun simbule in we’re rapunzel comes from


Uhm you okay_? Why you looked different…? But you looked pretty like a vampire…


it remands me of how sunny beceme a alicorn


Wrong i think a bit because The princesses the night and sun was born whis wings and horns!


The theory my friend had is that King Sombra is a changeling that ruled the empire with Crystalis and then Cadance took over and Sombra was banished and it made Queen Crystalis so mad she turned on the ponies for taking away her husband and kingdom. Now this is what we believe and it's just a theory she made (Okay I don't remember if this is exactly how she said it but it's something like that)


Yolo i just watch these and learn things abt my little pony 💅💅💀💀


KING COBALT WAS AN ALACORN! JUST LOOK 3:31!


well until a chaos god larping as a dead goat brought him back so he can troll his friends

Me: cant breath from laughing-

*well until a chaos god larping as a dead goat brought him back so he can troll his friends*

Me: *cant breath from laughing-*


Its an fanfiction more than a theory tbh


why he wants to take back whats hes: he born another pony but it was a alicorn for the next episode in netflix my little pony make you mark that alicorn makes hes dad proud by pulling away the crystals agian!


Most of villians: reformed
Some of villians: planing to reform

Meanwhile:
King sombra: dead


анциструс чпрпс


Don’t tell me that Rarity is sombra’s daughter


i love this channel brony no-......sawthooth waves ....


This looks like a really good theory! But, I created a story on Wattpatt about when sombra battled a pony named General Pico. quote: "I will put you back toghether. always" This means that Sombra is alive!


🙄 So the comics aren't canon until the 11th season was released huh?

No offense... but full offense

I prefer the comic interpretation.

No offense... *but full offense*

I prefer the comic interpretation.


how princess Luna and her sister parts are king and queen?


Me: I thought this was a video not a movie eh idc I luv it


Just like the gym Steven Universe King Sombra got corrupted pain and suffering he's horn sturgeon point shishu Steeps sharpened then as teeth sharpened when will rat I mean well


do eneyone know that he have a wife and his wife is the queen


But I do not understand, in fanfics, isn’t Sombra in love with Celestia?

If he loves her why he has fighted her and she done everything to defeate him?


Ayo nice vampire fruit bat costume- (I hope it's a costume)


He’s so unknown. And his performance in Season 9 was so...meh.


Sombrero couldn't die anyway, because sombra is NOT solid. He turns into shadow, too


Not to be sexist but, is it possible that make ponies cannot become alicorns? We have seen none. Not even in the graphic novels or books.


what happend to the princess aka the daughter of king cobalt?


Hmm what about an episode where discord or the three villans come back and take over you channel for a few days but discord gets a week cause you know he's a good draconaquist and then have fluttershy take care of discord and Celestia and Luna take care of the V3


Umm, i might be stupid but wouldn’t there be no summer sun celebration if Luna hadn’t been banished yet? Since they created the celebration to mark nightmare moon’s defeat so I’m not sure where sombra would get his magic from. I don’t think Luna wasn’t there when sombra first appeared since she was there when they defeated him.


maybe in his look know maybe he hides his wings and his red coat thing idk whats its called but why do i watch it when i gte scared-_-


Prinses luna is shadow's vary oldest friend


Why doesn't Sombra have a cutie mark, and why does his mane still flow. Why does some unicorns like Mistmanes mane flow but all alicorns manes flow but cozy glows and Cadences Doesn't.


When sawtooth fakes death : * pretends to die from poison.       Me:  * rolls up in a ball and starts crying *   Sawtooth :   Uhhhhh I’m still alive it was a joke.         Me : does it for 10 strait days *.               I’m saying this so he doesn’t fake death


But wat about the comis ? We get there a little  of his background


Theres a book about this ......but its different


wait do you think season 9 is the last season in MLP


King S- OOME - bra not king s-u-mbra just saying :)))


Mlp: making kid shows
Sawtooth waves: gets more deep in backstory
Mlp: ... we didn’t know any of this


OMG WHEN YOU SAID CHARLOTTE IT REMINDED ME OF MY BFF BUT I CANT SEE HER CUS COVID


Hmm the  name,king sombra, the word king

Hmm the  name,king sombra, the word king


I love all your story and i dont even know what i am


What if cadance is sombra's duaghter i mean she is the ruler of the empire and her parents are un-none so may sombra is her dad


Sawtooth ! great he is corrupted 🙁😔😒 good thing me and my friend are  female and male  alicorns i am ready sawtooth don't worry we will fix this problem  don't  worry  we are  coming to turn you in your normal  form 🦄🦄


PLEASE do a new video about Chrysalis if shes an type of alicorn or a fight

@Mlp Lost Content Good theory But i wanna Say i love Changelings But Im obses with Queen Chrysalis and what if King Sombra will fight her for the Crystal Empire

Hi

I think this about Chrisalys

The first, thing that we hear of Queen Chrisalys, is what Cadence says

"She's a changeling. She takes the form of somepony you love and gains power by feeding off your love for them."

She has very intresting powers:

Mind contrlot (to Shining armor)

Turn into any pony or creature

Create copies of ponies

Blast magic
Levitate
Love draining

Changelings are a race this is clear and Chrisalys creates changelings with eggs

Chrisalys was a pony princess

How??

Well, let's remember this story:

" Apparently, some prince a long time ago whipped up this recipe and gave it to this princess he liked. He meant it to be a love potion, but things didn't turn out so well.

Well, there's something here about a dragon, the kingdom falling, chaos reigning... Okay, apparently it was all because the prince and princess were so lost in each other's eyes that they couldn't perform their royal duties. "

Ok, so I think that Chrisalys, was the princess, and dragons attacked the kingdom, she was forced to hide, when she went out she found the prince dead, so she turned into her Nightmare version, but she was desesperated to get love because of the poison she had, she went, and found, some ponies, and with a spell drained their love.

With time she could not survive without love.

She had to conquer Equestria, but she would need help.

She learned how to shapeshift, and then created the first changeling, then she created a whole army.

She tried to attack Equestria but Celestia defeated her.

With time Chrisalys forgot her origin.

Probably Chrisalys castle, was her castle as an alicorn

Yes it  is very crazy, and probably not true


What about Chrislys (sorry if spelled wrong )?


He came back but got stop again by Twilight sparkle and her friends


I think your pony was girl but wrong boy is a boy is hard to know they.re hair looks like girls even the boys


I went and listened to it, it’s awesome!!!

>:D my remix of Stop the Bats! glad you like it


When I saw the notification I knew I had to watch this video lol 😂😁


How is the King Sobra's cutie mark ?????<br>(Sorry for my bad inglis, im portugues)

How is the King Sobra's cutie mark ?????
(Sorry for my bad inglis, im portugues)


Am I tye only one who finds King Sombra hot🏃♂


King Sombra never had wings<br>So I don’t get what you’re trying to say

King Sombra never had wings
So I don’t get what you’re trying to say

Oh, sorry!

I didn't know that such brainless doorknobs of humans existed!
My mistake

Whatch this video if you want to know why he thinks Sombra had wings https://youtu.be/YT04rUedDhM


They said it was for kids they said

Death:how ya like that
 Mlp:I like it time to make a death on screen


Wait are you actually a horse or a unicorn or a Alcorn well that doesn’t make sense how


I know I'm late but isn't a Canon that the alicorn sisters were born alicorns just saying...

I luv ur vids


How kings sombra came to be....

:Candy ad:

Me: so pinkie pie?


I was actually studying and I have a test tomorrow but nahhh I need to watch this FYI where I live it's 10:12 o clock  and I've been studying since 3 o clock with a 1 hour break.... Geez I feel better about this test


Wrong. He just got mad becose Celestia trapped luna in the moon


Something dosent add up not sure it's like some things missing


Sawtooth: "How King Sombra Came To Be:"
Youtube: *Ads*
Me: "Cool Story Bro."

Sawtooth: "How King Sombra Came To Be:"
Youtube: **Ads**
Me: "Cool Story Bro."

Yes one of best parts when king somber came from adds :D


4:02 the Unicorn King can't be Sombra. In the novel, The Journal of the Two Sister's, it says that King Bullion is the Unicorn King and that Princess Platinum is his daughter, Sombra isn't mentioned in the book at all.

@Victoria Crudup you have to look at the time lines as well. It doesn't add up.

But what if his name wasn't always Sombra and before that he was King Bullion


I   think  that   king    somra  was  an nice   guy intel  he   became   an    monster


wait wait wait is cozy glow the first alicorn kid?????????? :0


I just got out of school and you uploaded! WOOHOO!


Damn why won't anyone read the comics ? :(


Ok, so headcanon- chrysalis was the original ruler of the crystal ponies and the changelings. Sombra over threw her.


On the future king sombra love. Luna and have a baby so what else bring it to be bad just because he's jealous the same it he can destroy the unit the beautiful land the the crystal empire is still notice of hearing sombra to crystal love win twilight in his friend disappear king sombra where did you went 🤔🤔🤔🤔


Can you make video about Queen chrysalis life


What if King Sombra was Celestia and lona father

Not even remotely possible, as the sisters are MUCH older than him.


Boy are u saying sombras daughter is rarity!?


Saw"tooth" waves Wow Really Showing The Tooth Part Of Youre Name Now Bud


NO SAMBRA
KING SIMBA
{this isn't a serious comment don't come attack me plz}


NOT REALLY  DUDE.HE WAS BORN OF CREATORS OF DARKNESS TO SNEAK INTO EQUESTRIA. HE IS IBRUM AND THERE IS A SPECIES.READ The comics  for goodness sake


Have you ever thought about a face reveal


@Chastox lol you’re right but so far it’s pretty big brain


Umm 🤔 I think is have a only Five alicorns the first one is Celeste second Luna third cadence fourth is twight light firth is furry heart I think is it, what about you the one who say to me who the new alicorn?


!theory! The Student Sixs May be Letting a new magic be made  the magic of Connection and the Student Sixs May soon be „connecting“ all Spieces in the my Little Pony universe


Me (gives 10000000 apples)you happy bat pony


He is not an alecorne or he was not a alecorne


Why everyone ships Luna+Sommbra???<br>They are actually.... have to hate each other....

Why everyone ships Luna+Sommbra???
They are actually.... have to hate each other....

Please bring back the days when MLP it was a kids movie  and not a big ass fandom


The erth pony leader is a erth pony and the pegasus leader is a pegasus and the unicorn leader is a alicorn?


I tink sombra wanet to be a king but prenses luna and prenses elstia kome and take his plase and the shado kame and tok his Mained 😊


its wierd mlp have to make a movie of king zombra its creepy


<b>I edit the comment so when im early i just say something random and edit it to something thats worth people's time.</b>

*I edit the comment so when im early i just say something random and edit it to something thats worth people's time.*


You are wrong it’s not sombra on the gem it’s  celestias  sister or brother which ar both allicorns


so staliconrs excist SHINING ARMOR ANYONE


Sawooth wave I have a douth why Equastria girls look like my little pony


Me: I’m early!

The comments, views and likes: well yes but actually no...


Celestia and Luna had a crash on king sombra ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤


Hey can you do like a theory on what Rarity's "last name" is? Because:

Trixie | Lulamoon
Twilight | Sparkle
Luster  | Dawn
Rarity | ???

Just wonderin :P

Hey can you do like a theory on what Rarity's "last name" is? Because:

Trixie | *Lulamoon*
Twilight | *Sparkle*
Luster  | *Dawn*
Rarity | *???*

Just wonderin :P


Omg that was so cold omg I loved that omg sorr6 but that was sooo cool!


Alright heres some more apples <br>🍎 🍏 🍎 🍏 🍎

Alright heres some more apples
🍎 🍏 🍎 🍏 🍎


I lean towards the theory that he was the one that created the amulet in the first place like an mlp Sauron, with with his thing for crystals he would have been able to infuse his dark power into it, remember how it slowly drove Trixie more and more power hungry? So to me that sounds just as plausible as the alicorn angle


Pretty accurate that explains hid love for crystals as well as power


King Cobalt (visually) reminds me of the alternate  version of Sombra seen in the animated short ”Reflections” by RobinRain

interesting take on Sombras origen story but I cant help too think of another animation regarding this topic 🤔
”The tale of One shadow”


Thank you so very much for this video I was sooo curious about King Zombra and about his past 🤔


The thing is, when Sombra was reintroduced in the season 9, I thought he was going to be this serious villain. But so many things turned me off from him. First his voice was too comically high born rich nobility sounding and second is he felt like a joke for the most part, when he was introduced in season 3, he felt truly menacing and scary. But I felt like his role in Season 9 wasn't that, I felt like, that even though he did those things he did, he wasn't the real threat. He felt like some comical rich guy type villain, you know, the type of people who think because their rich or of a high standing, they can be mean, treat people terribly then want things handed to them on a silver platter, plus the type that are too pompous, self-centered, and arrogant that they end up losing, because they are?

He just felt too much of a joke to me. If he was voiced by Keith David and was much more serious/menacing, I feel like it will match him perfectly.


What if the way his horn looked was because the amount of magic he taken was to much straining him. And because of that the heat and force permanently scarred his horn.


Aaand they didn't even go for an intimidating enough voice for Sombra in the Season 9 premiere.

But hey, all that matters apparently is that he's got personality now!
A...really weak personality but a personality and that's all we got.


Just read the MLP comics to supplement your pony lore.  Since it's still ongoing (continuing as season 10), its canon isn't less legitimate.   Season 10, episode 1 starts on issue 89.


I think I read a comic when I was younger.  I can't remember all of it but he was in the crystal empire orphanage.  I think at one point there was another Alicorn who he turned to stone and destroyed him.<br>But going off of you idea If he does turn into an Alicorn then I think he inherited her  power when he destroyed her.

I think I read a comic when I was younger.  I can't remember all of it but he was in the crystal empire orphanage.  I think at one point there was another Alicorn who he turned to stone and destroyed him.
But going off of you idea If he does turn into an Alicorn then I think he inherited her  power when he destroyed her.


So what you're suggesting is that King Bullion (that's the unicorn king's officially given name) was rendered an obsolete leader when Celestia and Luna starting moving the sun and moon, he ran off and left behind everyone he knew, including his daughter, transformed himself into a magical unicorn Darth Vader, came back a long time after to pull what Nightmare Moon would pull in the series premiere, Tireked the pony population to ascend to an alicorn, got that magic Bewitching Belled into a rock by Starswirl (prior to him banishing himself along with the other Pillars and the Pony of Shadows), put on a cape to hide the scars made from his wings getting magically plucked, found the Crystal Empire, deposed the queen (what did he do, shank her in her sleep?), ruled the Empire for a short time before Celestia and Luna came along and turned him into a umbrum, and everyone over the generations agreed to never again speak about who he was or the name he had as the benevolent unicorn king? Not even a peep (or a page in a book) about his fall from grace? Also, what's with him being a blank flank?

By the way, the Summer Sun Celebration was only invented after Luna became Nightmare Moon and got banished to the inside of the moon, being a commemoration of her defeat by Celestia. Before then, they were just raising the sun and the moon without making a big deal out of it.

So what you're suggesting is that King Bullion (that's the unicorn king's officially given name) was rendered an obsolete leader when Celestia and Luna starting moving the sun and moon, he ran off and left behind everyone he knew, including his daughter, transformed himself into a magical unicorn Darth Vader, came back a long time after to pull what Nightmare Moon would pull in the series premiere, Tireked the pony population to ascend to an alicorn, got that magic Bewitching Belled into a rock by Starswirl (prior to him banishing himself along with the other Pillars and the Pony of Shadows), put on a cape to hide the scars made from his wings getting magically plucked, found the Crystal Empire, deposed the queen (what did he do, shank her in her sleep?), ruled the Empire for a short time before Celestia and Luna came along and turned him into a umbrum, and everyone over the generations agreed to never again speak about who he was or the name he had as the benevolent unicorn king? Not even a *peep* (or a page in a book) about his fall from grace? Also, what's with him being a blank flank?

By the way, the Summer Sun Celebration was only invented after Luna became Nightmare Moon and got banished to the inside of the moon, being a commemoration of her defeat by Celestia. Before then, they were just raising the sun and the moon without making a big deal out of it.


I like that theory but another one I thought of on the fly is if you look at Mistmane her horn and the horn of the unicorns around her have the same curved horn of Sombra and if you remember correctly the unicorn that was crowned empress said she took her power so maybe sombra was the unicorn that she took it from and he wanted power and took over the crystal empire. It’s just a guess though based on the horn look


Somber wasn’t really a unicorn or alicorn but more of a type of champion of fairy’s


honestly this is a interesting concept,i wonder how Platinum would have felt about it all

to this day i still wonder about Princess Platinum.. was she Celestia and Lunas mother? did King Cobalt threaten to kill hes grand daughters? was she just as power hungry as her father? whatever happened to Princess Platinum?


but wouldn't that make the wearer of the alicorn amulet also an alicorn? or would it somehow only change ur magical and physiological aspects


He's relaxing what happened it's always been how it is


You have to read the books he’s a earth pony and broke some christal and got his powers.


Question...if Sombra was Cobalt wouldnt that mean Sombra had a daughter? Like what would happen if his daughter lived to see her father turn completely evil


Question though: Why didnt Trixie become an Alicorn when she putted the amulet on?


I was waiting for him to say that at the end "well until a chaos god dead goat brought him back so he could troll his friends but you get the point"  hahahahahahahha


Idk if this is true or anything but I’m pretty sure  when Trixie was so jealous of twilight for learning magic and whatever she went to a random shop and bought a amulet that looked like that one that wizard dude had and she used it she had power to do anything but she didn’t get wings which I was wondering would sombra get  wings if “HE” used it and not some commoner pony like trixie?!


Hi I'm Harlow I think how the story happened was Sombra had no friends so he looked for some in cantaloupe he found Luna and became friends then when she was vanished to the moon Sombra became sad and mad he turnd in to King Sombra


I actually liked the way that you came up with this story origin of king sombra,sawtooth waves xxxx from bond m3,bro hoove!


This sounds really good but wasn’t it confirmed that Luna and Celestia were Alicorns even BEFORE they ruled (basically born as them)


Here me out! What if Luna was cursed from his Magic!


When you think about it Sombra is probably won of the only ponies that died... I think


I don't think Sombra lost his wings. I think he is a unicorn, not alicorn.


I think fall of an empire summarises what happened to him perfectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtBqTFsiLxM


As we can see from this channel. My little pony has so many secrets


Wait a minnute, Sawtooth Waves has red eyes and Sombra's alicorn thing so......................................... IS HE KING SOMBRA??!!


If you see, nightmare moon's horn isn't bent but if you see the Mist mare or mane or something she also has a bent horn and everyone from that land, I think he was an emperor from that place or something


Wait... If The Magic Did Not Return, What About The People Who had The Magic? Did They Lose Forever?


I love my little pony so these videos are explaining my questions


I always thought sombra was some sort of kirin


Its canon in the comics series that sombra was born and designed specifically to dethrone princess Amore and take over the crystal empire, he's a creature of shadows with no cutie mark and weak to the crystal heart's power


My question is how tricksy didn’t get wings as she got her hoofs on the amulet?


The rulers look like rarity, pinkie, and rainbow dash<br>Also Trixie used the Alicorn amulet in the battle she had with twilight

The rulers look like rarity, pinkie, and rainbow dash
Also Trixie used the Alicorn amulet in the battle she had with twilight


One problem if sombra pushed celestial and luna wouldnt they say anything


what if celestia and luna became alicorns because the were able to move the sun and moon,and what if sombra has a moving mane because he was practicing dark magic and the more he was doing that the darker and more evil he becomes...


What you said Sombra has a Daughter, then who's Sombra's wife?


Im pretty sure summer sun celebration only came to be after luna's banishment. It's an awesome theory i quite like but i think the summer sun celebration part doesn't work out? Idk


Didn't the king ask luna to join him, be with him. Plus he didn't seem to know about Luna power


Hey, wait, who was sombras daughter when he was King?


Hasbro finding this channel be like: this man knows to much

Prob will and just make em loose his memory so peeps are annoyed and won’t know about the secrets of the channel


You know maybe he took the magic from the crystal ponies


Then why didn't trixie became an alicorn when she got the magic of sombra?


Does Sombra have a cutie mark and if so what is it?


Wait a minute, doesn't this contradict the Starswirl Alicorn Theory?


I think sombra is an evil unicon from a fantasy book and mysteriously came to life

My other theory is that king sombra is a evil spirt from an dark world
(Like the underworld)
(Limbo dose not count)


Saw tooth could you do a theory on why the earth ponies have no horns or wings and stuff like that


i was thinkin about sunset shimmer's cutiemark, doesnt it partially have a yin-yang symbol in it? so shouldnt she partially be the symbol of unity of both the pony and the human world? i mean if so that must be the reason she hasnt bumped into her duplicate in the human world by now. right?


I love this headcanon but...
where is Radiant Hope ? ? !

I love this headcanon but...
*where is Radiant Hope* ? ? !


I have an idea you should do a theory about how many clones are there


When you said "this is how king sombra came to be" a ultz ad started playing hahaha XD


More like how did he became an Alicorn anyways?


That pony I gave Estelle the power first which is also Luna sister to when Estelle how to spell it in love with him but she told her everything she became the queen that's why


2:46-3:11 Uh, hold it right there, bub. "No umbrum creatures"? Uh, it's in what I call the Sombra Arc of the MLP FIENDship is Magic comic book series, that tells the whole back story of Sombra. How do I know? I watched all the videos for those MLP comics, that another YouTuber posted. Thank goodness they did, or I would have to actually BUY the copies myself, before knowing if I would actually LIKE them or not. Turns out I don't like the comics...I LOVE them!

And, uh, regarding the Unicorn King? I read in the book "Journal of the Two Sisters", that the unicorn king's name is King Bullion, so that knocks Sombra right out of the loop there.


Why Celestia can never be princess bc Estelle Celestia's bigger sis was trapped in the map that you can see in the castle because the pony you had made them to for 3 is a mortal so you didn't die Estelle had trapped him in the tree of Harmony


You thought you could be sneaky, but I recognized the intro to your bats remix. I’m on to you!!!


It fits just fine but it doesn't fit the changeling queens (forgot her name) story...? So I don't think that is right but it sounds totally believeable I will give you that. 🦄


How  king sombra came to be :<br>Stop homelessness

How  king sombra came to be :
Stop homelessness


What about the shadow that looks Zecora when the mane 6 all go to the castle of the two sisters


I know sombra was nice and then he went missing and then the princess was sad and then she forgot of him


If pony’s need all 3 then why wasn’t Tirek an alicorn? He had all 3 and more.


this might not be true but I agree with it


hold up wait a minute is sombra  the princess long lost brother


Since the show is over now can Lauren Faust just. tell us these answers?


<b>me who thinks some cut off his wings be like:</b>

*me who thinks some cut off his wings be like:*


Did you know that sombra is shadow in spanish?


when celestia was young she looked like the girl that hangs out with the old pony u know wat i mean


my sister and me think that queen crysisalis and king sombra are married and used to rule the crystal empire.


Uhhh maybe the way he stole magic is the way they stole it in the last sunset holiday episode


Sawtooth waves:how sombra came to be
Ad:Will you adopt the cat?
Me:are you kidding me


what if nightmare moon and sombra were working together


The two sisters celebrate the first summer sun celebration i want you to think about that sentence


The only thing we’ll never be sure of is the name 😃


Wait so if sombra had a child then, wheres the wife?


good story But how did star swirl know I think His daughter told star swirl because Princess Platinum thought he cared about power more than his daughter so when she heard about what happened she took her revenge by telling star swirl But that's what I think so yeah. no hate please


Me :the first changling queen looks like sombra


Dude  I don't think male alicons ever existed in mlp(except in comic dub and fan made animations and series)


Sawtooth: this is why the amu-

Youtube:*plays 10th anniversary shopee ad*

Me: ahh yes sombra wanted to buy stuff


When princesess became rulers of equestria, what hapened to Sombras daughter?


Is he like, the CEO of MLP and he’s just giving spoilers LOL


If he knows about king cosmos and Queen Coleccion  will know


Well Mist main has the same horn as sombra but shes nothing like him


I don't think celestia and luna became alicons that way we don't have any proof


I think king sobra was a king once and every Pegasus, unicorn, pony gavE him love and he got his magic from that than then a new queen/king took over than he got the alicorn amulet and it took away his nice form and his alicorn than he became a evil unicorn so yeahhhhh


Prince Midnight: Interesting theory changeling


i feel like sombra was where mistmane lived cuz dey ar kinda same both unicorns, flowy hair, and the curved horn


Its like hugo from kipo he changed his name and became evil and then turned back good watch it


Next you should do how flutter shy became a bat pony course we’ll what made the transformation happen


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i think Zombra is A corrupted Alicorn/Unicorn


No Discord told Sombra about the crystal empire


I never heard of the moon and sun sister parents?


Something doesn’t add up, because celestia celebrated the first summer sun celebration AFTER Nightmare Moon’s defeat, to celebrate Nightmare moon’s defeat. So idrk.


Remember he is a unicorn he was a unicorn


Everyone has a reason to be bad you can’t just be like

“Oh I’m ganna be bad for no reason!”


What If sombra was celestia and Lunas brother


Wait what if his daughter changed her name and ruled the crystal empire yes I am talking about princess who rules the crystal empire I mean what if she got her mom's looks and stuff it would make sense because if sombra changed his name to sombra maybe his daughter did the same as her father but then again a father would never hurt his daughter well some dads do that in our world so maybe her father abused her and then left her before she ruled the crystal empire

☆ 𝙮𝙖𝙨𝙝𝙞𝙧𝙤 nene ☆

Hi present yashiro here during this time I didn't know how to spell her name and I still don't

☆ 𝙮𝙖𝙨𝙝𝙞𝙧𝙤 nene ☆


I hate to break it to you but the summer sun celebration never happened before nightmare moon.


So king sombra is basically Roleplay dream


A no queen given him power that's what i heard 🦄🦄


how king sombra came to be
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.... nice


you are rightI know it because I fear I sit and I watched it over and over I watch My Little Pony over and over a thousand times I Got King Sombra and everyone right Thiriy


He passed down the throne  and toke over the cristly empire mabey


make a theory about why king sombra doesn't have a cutie mark.

@Kara Robinson makes sense.
But if the king's magic was put in an amulet because he could create black crystals in season 9 and  in season 3, (when he appears)?
  I think it's more probable that he's another kind of creature, not a unicorn, maybe a minotaur since tirek (which is a minotaur) has no cutie mark.

I feel like it’s similar to when tirek took magic when starswirl sucked it into the amulet it could have removed it


I think luna wused to like sombra because there was a pony none as shadow and sombra can be a sadow pony


“how king sonbra came to be” <br>OMG STUPID AD

“how king sonbra came to be”
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I was expecting the Comment Section to be riddled with Disagreements but I'm pleasantly suprised that it isn't, Nice!


You are really a nice fruit bat wait braburn give him his alicorn amulet DON'T GIVE IT TO TWILIGHT


Read the Mlp villians story official.Theres every villain story


There was 5 ail-icorns and now there is 5 ail-icorns again!


I'm so sorry but the journal of the2 sisters disproves this theory


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Simon lizotte board a normal Pony Dahmer was born whatever misguided


Can you do more videos about you is your favorite ship in mlp ? ☺☺😊


I you are most likely  right because in the play The unicorns  send there princess instead of there king. why do they send there princess instead of there king👸


This is what I think but rarity
Is not his daughter and I listen to your hole story
But according to this Mlp should of did another episode where that he turn good and but they didn’t
And you should work for Mlp


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HE'S NOT AN ALICORN TRUST ME NEED! PLUS U WILL BE ALICORN IF U CREATE NEW POWER LIKE THE OTHER PRINCESSESSSSSSSS


hot take:grogar said he ruled cristal empire so ot prpved it or its just me beong stopid


Me: there’s so many people that are villains
I mean like sunshine shimmer
But she’s good now!
And starlight glimmer!
But she’s good now!
Nightmare moon
I mean she really haven’t changed...
She’s just a different carecter in mlp
Nightmare moon : am I a joke to you?!
Me: Urumqi maybe ya BIG FAT BULLY XD
Nightmare moon:>:0
Celestia: that’s right
Me: YA JUST GOT ROASTED NIGHT MARE MOON
OR SHOULD I SAY NIGHTMARE LOSER LOL 😂


Is..........is the neuretor wareing the ulacone ameulte😱🤯


Okay so this is not related at all to this video but i just wanted to say it cause i'm bored' So.. you keep saying alicorn's are a mix with other pony's....but unicorns and Pegasus are also... So here is what i mean.... Horns and earth pony's mixed..and wings and earth pony's mixed thus making unicorns and pegesus Then all three mixed together creating alicorn's ..So earth pony's are the start of everything..but what about Crystal pony's..I think Crystal's mixed with the earth pony's making Crystal (Pony's)..So what i'm saying here is that horses or earth pony's are the start and it was a world with just regular horses and..other creatures but those don't matter what i'm saying is that people take earth pony's for granted and fail to see the upmost importance  of earth pony's   Just saying-

And yes this was a joke no need for hate >:)


You are saying that King is not only a king but really is a queen or a daughter at least and I noticed something they have a case number has had ever seen a pony in Townsville except really why is that


But who is the mom of  Princess Platinum

But who is the mom of  Princess Platinum


Celestia and Luna was born as a Ali corn


King Sombra yes and for get know one this literal


Sorry but summer sun celberiaton first happend when luna was  banished


Hmm this kinda doesn't make sense because there is no alicorn male


So yo saying RARITY IS THE DAUGHTER OF KING SOMBRA!?

And also this makes sense


you knoe the like thig i forgot the name but she need the power of that love and its like a butterfly and zombra might be merryed sorry im still little but im in uear 1 so they might be the two lost wueen and king👸🏿🤴🏿


the princess.princess Luna and her sister was princess or not how they Becoming a princess


That’s not how aware we already know how it goes yeah that is how it goes but the king is not part of it so you are wrong the king and a part of it already know we saw the episode of that make your show so you arse are nuts right but the king is not part of it so they didn’t show us at the show never lie yeah but I don’t know why there’s clones I think this is like I think they I think my brother yeah


Um hello haven't you read the comics<br>You really didn't read the comics

Um hello haven't you read the comics
You really didn't read the comics


Sorry to shatter this but...Sombra was never once an Alicorn. In fact he isn't actually a real pony. Read the Fiendship is magic Sombra issue comic from idw. He was born from shadows, or the umbrum. And he was never a father. But, the comics do reveal that in the span of the show, Sombra was sucessfully reformed, with the help of his old, dearest friend Radiant Hope, and they even set out to put back together the first crystal princess, Amora.


how king Cobalt real ternd evil and why?


Why do you have some prescriptions so is all the patches


Love the video! One question though  how do you think Cadence gets put into this scenario? Her cutie mark is the crystal heart so is she the daughter of or a descendent of the former rulers of the crystal empire before Sombra took over? Or is she a descendent of Sombra himself? And if she is the daughter of the former rulers how did she escape from the curse maybe since she was born a Pegasus and where did the crystal ponies even come from? Perhaps its like Romeo and Juilet maybe love between ponies of the other 3 tribes when they were separated was forbidden and those who broke it were stripped of their wings and magic being called a disgrace and cast off to set an example where they found the land blessed with crystals that blessed them into crystals as long as they kept love in their hearts its far fetched but I would love to see how you would think Cadence would tie into this and why Celestia chose her to rule the  Crystal Empire maybe she heard about the long lost princess and recognized her or maybe she just took a random Pegasus with strange magic to rule an entire empire but if so thats an unwise decision anyway what do you think? Sorry for the long comment.


You might wanna change some details in the story: The Summer Sun Celebration represents the banishing of Nightmare Moon, as Celestia says in "The Summer Sun Setback"...  no Celebration before Nightmare Moon.

Another change, after he left they didn't use a protection spell


Okay. The story you thought about is really creative and yes, it really fits the timeline PERFECTLY. But I don't think Sombra is a Pony though. In the show we cannot see if Sombra has a cutie mark, so we can't exactly tell. But remember the shadow pony Stygian transformed into? The shadowpony itself was a dark magic surrounding Stygian and I think Sombra might actually be the same. Just with no pony inside him. I think Sombra is a dark shadow coming from beyond equestria, maybe even from another dimension, transformed into the creatures that live in Equestria.

Oh and btw The Crystal Empire is in Equestria, not outside of it :P


So let me get this straight- King Sobra was ruler of the Unicorn tribe then the tribes all formed one tribe then the Wizards could no longer raise the sun and moon then Celestia and Luna came along and volunteered to raise the sun and moon and then they became alicorns causing King  Sombra to lose his title as the King of the Unicorns he then studied ancient magic and became stronger then during The Summer Sun Celebration instead of the two Sisters, Sombra took all the Unicorns, Pegasus, and Earth ponies magic to overthrow the Sisters and Starswirl had managed to stop King Sombra banishing him from Equestria and Starswirl  couldn’t return the magic King Sombra had corrupted and put the magic into the gem and then put it into the Alicorn Amulet then in Season 3 the episode “Magic Duel” Trixie then bought the Alicorn Amulet containing King Sombra’s corrupted magic but Trixie did not understand the corrupted  it really contained and she used it to defeat Twilight in the Duel.


A true alicorn does not steal magic from the 3 tribes and cannot lose it


I feel like thanks to the last episode of season 9 they should make a new entire series


I think the story of King Cobalt to King Sombra really fits


I think when he was pushed out instead of taking magic from the ponies of  equestria and instead went looking for power. he found the crystal empire and queen chrysalis in it and they formed a bond but ideas of what happened to him in equestria corrupted him causing the equilibrium of love to turn into the oppisite and only thirt for magic, the queen ran away uncertain and heartbroken and went to gather her hive. Her anger from what love can do made her instead of getting love kindly or finding an alternative, to instead force it from others, and also, in a way save them from heart break.


I took note of literally everything you said, I pay more attention in cartoon pony history then in actual history 🤧


Anybody remember Mistmane? Her appearance and Sombra’s looks similar and due to her high power level I think that’s why her mane flowed like Celestia’s and Luna’s and Sombra’s, and the curved horns- soooo... what if he’s a pony from there and he was just corrupted? And the wings weren’t real they were just a symbol of how strong he was and how he was able to defeat alicorns as a unicorn? Maybe he could’ve been a corrupted pupil of Celestia’s, I won’t go into full detail as I don’t have to time to but I just wanted to put this here as otherwise I’d forget.


That's weird I believe that the answer for how Sombra came to be was in his diary it said "somber... it was the only word I could remember when they found me. No matter what they asked, the only thing I would say to them was this one word. So they made it my name. And that is how I, the king of all monsters, named myself. Not having any family to return a lost colt to, the crystal guard brought me to chestnut falls orphanage. Where he meets chestnut falls."<br>Sombra didn't even need wings to rule since he over thrown princess Cadence mother and for that Radiant Hope have to find Celestia and Luna for help and so for that the Crystal Empire and Sombra disappeared. To rule equestria isn't about ruling with kindness or compassion like the other Alicorn princesses. To somber he wasn't even born like the others he was made, created by a red Crystal look like the others to blending in disguise so he can get close to the crystal heart and hide it. He even went find a friend in his youth that he care for and she was he's best friend that he had a crush on her stated that she must join him we're the powerful ones. We can rule as king and queen.

That's weird I believe that the answer for how Sombra came to be was in his diary it said "somber... it was the only word I could remember when they found me. No matter what they asked, the only thing I would say to them was this one word. So they made it my name. And that is how I, the king of all monsters, named myself. Not having any family to return a lost colt to, the crystal guard brought me to chestnut falls orphanage. Where he meets chestnut falls."
Sombra didn't even need wings to rule since he over thrown princess Cadence mother and for that Radiant Hope have to find Celestia and Luna for help and so for that the Crystal Empire and Sombra disappeared. To rule equestria isn't about ruling with kindness or compassion like the other Alicorn princesses. To somber he wasn't even born like the others he was made, created by a red Crystal look like the others to blending in disguise so he can get close to the crystal heart and hide it. He even went find a friend in his youth that he care for and she was he's best friend that he had a crush on her stated that she must join him we're the powerful ones. We can rule as king and queen.


Well, it does explain two other things that you didn't get around to covering: the fact that Flim & Flam refer to it as "The Kingdom of Canterlot", and the fact that Canterlot is central to Unicorn society in Equestria. How is there a Kingdom with no King? We know Hasbro didn't want to use "Queen" for anything but villains (since Disney kind of poisoned the apple on that one long ago), but it never made sense for a Princess to rule a land.

We know that there are Princes who also don't rule - Blueblood is one. But in absence of a King, the next Prince in line becomes King regardless of age or merit. So why wouldn't Blueblood (or a more senior Prince, if any) be King, if Kings still exist at all (as they do in other lands)? It makes sense IF the Kingship itself had been abolished. The ascension of the Two Sisters, taking over the previous Sun/Moon duties of the Unicorns as a tribe, meant executive power in Equestria became a meritocracy - only an Alicorn can rule, they must do so by ascension, their predecessor must take them under their literal wing, and they must be trained up for the job. The rest of the nobility still have their land and titles but none of them can contest for the Throne...

...that is, so long as a worthy Alicorn remains seated upon it. DUN DUN DAAAAAAAHHHHH...!


Nice theory but one teensy problem. The summer sun celebration was held to celebrate Celestia's defeat of Nightmare Moon and Sombra was banished before Nightmare moon. So maybe it happened at a royal speech or somethin


What about Cozy Glow's origin about she have parents and how she became evil?


Princess Platinum's sire (father) is supposedly King Bullion.  Sombra might have been a new name adopted by Bullion after his fall.  Also the Royal sisters were Alicorns when they gained their CM's by moving the sun and moon.  Yes, there has never been an alicorn born in Equestria prior to Flurry Heart, but the royal sisters weren't born in Equestria.   Personally, I think the royal sisters, were born in the lost civilization of the Alicorns, and are displaced in space and time somehow.  (Sort of "Last Son of Krypton" style).


Further proof that sombra was an alicorn in The Crystal Empire Part 1 when celestia show twilight the Crystal Empire she produces the same kind of magic as sombra just before the black crystals form in front of twilight.

Now my question is how did celestia produce the same kind of magic as celestia because sombras type of magic comes from his corruption right?


As much as I agree with this, the creator of my little pony said that she called princess Celestia “princess” because it didn’t sound as evil. It might be the same with princess Platinm


You did a good job  i loved it  from Almyra.♡


I totally agree with sawtooth theory about alicorns. But there is a flaw. If you need to have magic from all three tribes then starlight would be an alicorn. She can take cutie marks from all three tribes.


Okay so, there is one problem with your theory, you're basically saying that Sombra came back during the summer sun celebration even though the summer sun celebration was after Nightmare Moon (It was mentioned in S4 E1). Then you say that the royal sisters turned Sombra into a shadow. It doesn't make sense. For your theory to work, Sombra would have had to return for revenge before the Nightmare Moon (I think that would be too soon and the question is, when?) Correct me if I'm wrong


I like how when you mentioned "questionable sources" you show Sombra from comics lmao


I recommend reading the comic Fiendship is magic. Yes, I know its a comic book but try it.


If the alicorn amulet  absorbed sombra's wings the when  trixie  put it on it should have gave her wings but it didn't. So in my opinion the alicorn amulet is not connected to king sombra.


But now we have one more question to complement the story what happened to his daughter if her really did had a daughter


the theory is cool but you missed a lot of the story that came from the show, the parts you missed i can count are:

Sombra didn't die he came back when discord was pretending to be grogar

the sisters banished Sombra not Starswirl

the thing that drove sombra mad was the power given to him by the crystal ponies love
thats all i found, also i have a mini theory that sombra always had a curved horn and canid teeth, there's other ponies in the show with curved horns and his teeth are different from Luna's, Luna's teeth are more like a 4 year old's drawing of a T-rex while sombra's look more like the predators we see today such as dogs, lions or wolves so im convinced he is part of a extinct race of carnivorous unicorn/alicorn, if he is a part of a Carnivorous unicorn race then there is also a race of Pegasus and land ponies with teeth like that, its rare to see ponies with curved horns that arent changelings or evil but they've appeared as back ground characters.(sorry it was long hope you liked mah mini theory :3 )


To be honesty the story of king sombra is really sad


What i think happend was star swirl used the gem to get the magic from the tribes from king saubra and turned it into the alicorn amulet then his wings banished with him then when he was banished his wings grew back then he found the crystal empire and ruled over it but got destroyed but didn't die and still had his wings and when he tried to take the crystal heart he was destroyed again but came back and turned into a shadow then got destroyed again then came back for to banish the empire then the empire returned then he came back for victory and to destroy like he does!!! Thats what I think happend😊


thanks for the videos man, id love for you to reply to me, i really want to talk to you about this stuff, and if anything id like to start a youtube channel like his and do videos with him, sawtooth waves if your reading this i want you to know that your my idol and i look up to you. thank you for all the wonderful years


if i might ask sawtooth? if sombra wasn't born in the empire who once ruled the empire before he took over or was their never a queen to begin with and the throne was open to anyone who saught to steal the throne?


Wait wait argument theory here, what if he was the son of lost crystal princess, she would be ruling with her husband and one day somber a wanted the throne, over threw his mother and father and became king, years later when they first found the crystal empire they stole sombras magic and turned him into a unicorn and seeing his curropt nature banished him accidentally banishing the empire


This person who owns the channel is going places.


I love you videos so interesting so fun to hear


This theory isn't accurate because Celestia stated it was a celebration of Nightmare Moon's defeat.

It would also be useless for him to be banished in the same land.


one question, Sombra is the first MALE alicorn we have seen, soo does that mean all of the other alicorns are females?


There is a My Little Pony comic book that tells the story of sombra but I like your story butter


The first king sombra looks like that character  from legend of korra


The intro is pretty cool (your bringing back my childhood btw)


As a researcher never say you took the easier answer


His "mysterious past"

Except for the comics that give a full backstory for him, because that would be way too easy...

I read every comment and finally someone mentioned the comics


This is a good theory but there is a little wrinkle in your story, if this is the case then why did the amulet let Trixie use the amulet's powers?


Well I know why Sombra’s horn is curved . Look at Mistmain her horn is curved and every one in her town also have a curved horn I think Sombra is From that town


Honestly they stole his throne from him what did they expect


Or maybe the alicorn amulet

The creators:let's add wings on this so it looks cool


That unicorn horn was also found in mistmane's city


Why did the Crystal empire go down with him? And then came back without him? Is it like a curse?


I dont know how i ended up here but I LOVE IT


Who's stronger? Sombra? Pony of shadows or Nightmare moon?


True but how would have king sombra gotten the magic looking at what you have said about him yes it's true but you should make an episode on how he got the magic


A WARNING WHO ANYONE WHO COMES ACROSS IT

Trixie: points to the Alicoen Amulet

The buyer: oh you want this one, well-

Trixie: gives a full bag of coins

The buyer: oh sure sure lemme get the amulet for you-

D O E S N ' T   M A K E   S E N S E

A WARNING WHO ANYONE WHO COMES ACROSS IT

Trixie: *points to the Alicoen Amulet*

The buyer: oh you want this one, well-

Trixie: *gives a full bag of coins*

The buyer: oh sure sure lemme get the amulet for you-

D O E S N ' T   M A K E   S E N S E


<b>yep. this is 2020. solving mystery’s in my little pony. yep.</b>

*yep. this is 2020. solving mystery’s in my little pony. yep.*


Sawtooth: ...WELL until a dark chaos God Coming as a dead goat to troll his friends
Me: thinks of among us comics on trolling

Sawtooth: ...WELL until a dark chaos God Coming as a dead goat to troll his friends
Me: *thinks of among us comics on trolling*


that speech was amazing and its all right I know because I peached it up on google and it said the same thing but with harder words and that whole speech was something


In the third season tricky used the alicorn magic but she didn't get wings. She got red eyes red magic and a thirst for greed and more power over twilight


seriously 2 videos combined into 1 video is insane i haven't even seen the second video


Do you remember the blue spell that Grogar (Discord) on the last fight??? It could mean something :0


He retired and Celestia's 19-year-old son took over him


Remember the summer sun celebration happened after the banishment of Nightmare Moon! Sombra was banished before nightmare moon!


I DISAGREE
LET'S make it simple....

Sombra a unicorn that put magical power into an amulet and make the amulet look like a alicorn then...
he go to the crystal empire and started ruling.
Done.


Just pointing out..... He doesn't have a cutie mark so that makes me think that he was never a normal unicorn or.... What if he never  GOT his cutie mark? This would explain why he always where's a cape..


No one knows who sombra is. To the system he’s nobody


Why do you have King Sombra's amulet if it is his magic that he stole from other ponies?


What happened to Princess Platinum? That's my question.


Maybe king cobalt was already a Alicorn and then he transform into sombra then someone take away his Alicorn ?


Sawtooth: This is how sombra came to be...

Youtube:  DOWNLOAD THE NEWEST TV COMMERCIALS

me: ah yes tv commercals is how sombra came to be


When it said how king sombra came to be a sushi making add popped up

Of course. Sombra is sushi! 😂


does this mean rarity might be relted to king sombra?


Anyone going to talk about how cute baby sombra is?


I thought there was a whole comic about this


Nooo! The name of the king is King Bullion! It's mentioned in the book of the 2 sisters! Read the books brony!


Discord must have been protecting the elements with me


Well evryting is rong first he was a shadow pony and the Queen his mother took avay his magic so that the prison all of them where stuck in he can get out .The cristal gourds found him and took him to a ofenage  were he wasnamed sombra because it was the only word he could say .He met a friend he loved .Hope she told him about the cristal faire and every year he got sick of the light and love . One year Hope got her mark by saving him with medical aid She got her he did not only becoming a beast . Sombra and hope took over the empire but Sombra ralised he must become good ore Hope will not like him so he became good . That's the real story


4:38 was so good that it gave me an add.

I didn't click it but I look and it was the same timing and I got a ad-


Just saying there is actually a comic talking about sombra’s paste


So , can he reform ? please some pony reform him 🙏


Sawtooth Waves: How King Sombra Came to be

Disney+ Commercial Pops Up

Me: W A T

Sawtooth Waves: How King Sombra Came to be

*Disney+ Commercial Pops Up*

Me: W A T


I don't want to ruin the theory but if the  UNICORN king was an ALLICORN wouldn't he already be the ruler since he was respected.?


Me watching how Sombra got corrupted ad:  A medicine that can cure any symptoms just kidding it poisons you lol😂😂😂😂😂


Make a video about how to form king sombra


Sawtooth in the story of how king sombra became to be you showed that rarity was his daughter


Do you think that Sombra and Luna we’re dating  before he became evil


the only issue is that this theory assumes that Celestia and Luna were made into Alicorns rather then born...


Mistmane’s horn and sonbra’s horn same horn but red maybe he is from then


The alicorn amulet only increased the wearer's magic, though it could possibly only work for the physical traits of the pony. I think it more likely that Sombra made the amulet, planning to use it to become an alicorn, but failed, and the amulet was taken


Not true because in order to become an alacorn you had do something to gain wings


Me who dislikes every video about a clown named Sombra 🥲🥲


Lauren Faust tweeted some years ago, that princess celestia and princess luna were naturally born unicorns.


Until a chaos God larping as a died goat brought him back to troll his friends


I search up king so bra daughter and it showed twilights name?!😳


OMG HOW DO U COME UP WITH THESE THEAR ESE


I think that princess luna and king sombra are in love with each other


This story is cool but I honestly think it's stretching..<br>Or maybe that's just me liking Magpiepony's Princess Trixie Sparkle and wanting to believe the amulet belongs to some pony we don't know..

This story is cool but I honestly think it's stretching..
Or maybe that's just me liking Magpiepony's Princess Trixie Sparkle and wanting to believe the amulet belongs to some pony we don't know..


Now that I think about it, Maybe there are other kinds of species of unicorns that MLP will realese in the future....


Sombra didn’t die ; he came back in season nine

oh and also your star swirl the bearded made alicorns theory  wouldn’t make sense


Sawtooth Waves: here's the story...... "Of how King Sombra came to be....................."

Ad: HYRULE WARRIORS: AGE OF CALAMITY TRAILER. (HYRULE WARRIORS AVAILABLE NOW)

ME: OOOOOOKAYYYY THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.


but what about sombra's daughter what happend to her did she vanish or what I REALLY WANT TO KNOW


I don't care for his new voice, the old one had put a sense of danger in me, now it does not


Me watching this: how king sombra... Came to be.....

Ad: super crunch

Me thinking: wow king sombra became a super crunch HAHAHAHAHA