Minecraft RAY-TRACING: Extreme Graphics - The future is here! [umsoea]

And it's only beta version!

DragoFX_ yup. One developer only.

Now i want to see how is the perf' with the hardware acceleration of the nvidia rtx card

MrKadjit me too, but most importantly want to see it working in Unreal Engine 4 with RTX

@ETERNAL DREAMER u guys know rtx is marketing and the hardware optimization is very low

DragoFX_ they do exaggerate, but not that much actually.

@ETERNAL DREAMER they cutted corners to get this to this point, it's diluted ray tracing

DragoFX_ which corners?

@DragoFX_ RTX is fully legit and greatly optimizes BVH traversal. It can result in a 7-8x improvement on raytraced and pathtraced draw times. There's nothing 'diluted' about it, or other nonsense. Every video card should get raytracing hardware to accelerate RT visuals or be stuck in the past.

@DragoFX_ RTX cards can be used to run 100% raytraced games, but its not very efficient yet. We need like 3 more generations before 100% raytraced games are feasible. In the mean time, partially raytraced games can suffice.

FedoraGFX I think 2 generations

@FedoraGFX I mean there's the Quake 2 fully raytraced version accelerated via DXR. It is done today. But getting the sort of fidelity you really want out of full scene path tracing with very detailed models is going to take a while.

@DiamondGB Yeah I mean quake 2 looks amazing with RTX but its still low res textures and models. Definitely a step in the right direction

@FedoraGFX yeah it's exactly this, a step for the future, the only reason to buy rtx is because it perform better than gtx for lower pricing which is why I am getting it

@ETERNAL DREAMER this video looks like a unreal engine 4 demo xd

The original path traced quake 2 is good too.

@DiamondGB 'nothing 'diluted' ' looks at the abismal ammount of rtx cores they have, the ten or so AAA games that support it, hows the feature is just strapped onto dx12 (just lighting 9/10 times too) and the huge performance hit ya get. No its not diluted at all...

This is not ray-tracing
This guy in the video wouldn't be even able to run Minecraft at a decent framerate with that graphics card

It has to start some where.

@ETERNAL DREAMER Can this shaders works on AMD RX cards?

actually its not that ironic, since the game has a pretty basic 3d structure with not much details, therefore its way easier to develop ray tracing for it, unlike for some bigger title that has way more details and objects

Victor Isaev the only things that minecraft makes easier are geometry and textures, everything else is sampled as complex as it would in any other game. But as far as I know rasterization engines don't look back on geometry or texture complexity, so it comes only to path-tracing alone

this is a modder's version, minecraft doesn't have this by itself, it only has it with this mod. that's like saying minecraft has guns, when you just mean it has guns with mods.

Arlojmikk Minecraft I know

@ETERNAL DREAMER I heard that AMD does not support DXR. Can this shaders works on AMD RX cards ?

Jakub Stekla don't know for sure

@MrKadjit it doesn't work with gpu acceleration since optifine doesn't support that.

@Sinom Yep i know :)

Does it work on AMD card?

@Flavio Penas Yes this mods works on all graphic cards

@DragoFX_ Its not that nvdia did a bad job its that developers have yet to catch up

that's not Ray tracing

@DragoFX_ rtx isn't marketing it's a physical thing you do realise, it's been used in proffesional industry cards like quadros or Tesla cards for years now

@Alejandro Well yes it is

@DiamondGB sure for a single bounce with 8 bit accuracy its so well optimized afterall using 720p and upscaling it to 4k is jsut as good as running 4k

@FedoraGFX sure or you could just use vega or a 1080 to do it and when its writen well and is making good use of the HW thats available it doesnt run that bad and tensor only works because of how few bounces they use and how low the accuracy is

ETERNAL DREAMER it’s actually path tracing. Not ray tracing

I have an intel, I probably have no hope.

Congrats, 1000 likes :)

umsoea oh wow, didn't noticed 😅

G o d o t m u c h

Ray tracing has always worked on a gtx cards lol

@ETERNAL DREAMER and not a Corporate man to boot.

There is no path tracing without sonic ether himself. I will thank him more than minecraft itself. Also the creator of GLSL Shaders Mod.

@ETERNAL DREAMER Do you even play on Über difficulty bruh?

All people talking shit here without having a clue. Path-tracing is a more advanced rendering technique, derived from classic ray-tracing. All "ray-tracing" rendering engines used in the industry (Arnold, Octane, Cycles, etc) are actually path-tracing engines. Path-tracing is a lot more hardware intensive and a lot more realistic because it calculates the direction of the light bounces taking into account the objects' material properties. This IS path-tracing, and so it IS also ray-tracing. RTX cards performance (1080Ti vs 2080) wouldn't make much of a difference because the path tracing here is not implemented on Nvidia's Optix library, which is needed to take advantage of RT cores, it's just a pure OpenGL implementation, and even worse as Seus has said that what Optifine exposes is difficult to work with and is a limiting factor.
There are other "ray-tracing" techniques, such as ray-marching. Seus created a LPVGI shader which is voxel based and has increased performance, though the lighting resolution is smaller.
If anyone want's to try the shaders, you can go here: https://www.patreon.com/sonicether and pledge a minimum of 10$, which would give you access to all of his posts, and there you can download every experimental version.

@MCdevilkiller Nobody here is talking trash, we’re all just here for the meme.

LOL FAR FROM MOST ADVANCED

@The True Inferno ,
Wait, are you whining that there are too FEW RT cores in Turing?
You do realize that each SM has an RT core. Therefore the ability to generate rays is proportional to the number of SM's. Even if you could easily increase just the ray-tracing hardware part (which includes the Tensor cores) you'd then be allocating even more die space to a feature few games support which further increases the cost. I'm not sure you thought this through. You can't just jump to full frame, real-time ray tracing in hardware. You add SOME support which developers can utilize for shadows or other things as they see fit as an addition to the regular rasterization methods.

Looks at majority of RTX lineup Hmmm yes because most of these cards give 'reasonable' framerates with RTX enabled, its almost like it was a gimmick at launch!

@M.R Penguin YT it's a joke, you probably don't know the meme

I never made fun of him, been playing for almost 9 years

intentionally low end

Feel Old Yet?

@Davi Games i started feeling old when my younger friends didnt know what Gex was

@Yorai1212 are you serious

@Sora i think he knows, he was correcting his grammar because it gives me a stroke

Feel old yet?

@Sora that's what she said

@bill warton smooth

@RGV YT It's a joke.

Me too

side note: first "practical" usages of path and ray tracing in computer graphics were made when Notch was 6 years old

@niso I think you're confused about how ray tracing works, ray tracing is bouncing individual rays of light, it can be done on pretty much any hardware. For example, here's a web demo: https://media.tojicode.com/raytrace/ [fyi raytraced lighting is still ray tracing lol]

@RebornPhoenixVR you don't need an RTX card to have ray tracing, RTX is just built for that one purpose in mind.

@insrt Wow, I didn't know that! Thanks for the info and link.

Anyway its clickbait cause it isnt real time ray tracing 😉

@Kobeh Jerozolima who said it's not real-time? You can download the shader and test it yourself...

@insrt ,
RTX isn't built solely for ray tracing as there's DLSS and other upcoming features including audio path tracing, but yes that was a main focus for the architecture. you can also do ray tracing on any CPU or GPU provided the software supports it. It's all just math. RTX cards are currently the most efficient hardware for desktop PC gaming to do ray tracing.

@Jeffrey PhotonboyI think I just worded it a bit badly, I just meant it's the main focus of the card as you said as well. I appreciate the extra information though.

Same

Hikarmeme if your pc is shit

@fortniteaccount 194 no. All computers heat up when running high graphics

william smith not mine it really depends on the cooking used, and if it’s clean.I have a EVGA 1070ti FTW I use it for VR and it never goes above 70c on full load with a heavy OC I tried Minecraft and my fans don’t even spin with Zeus Ultra no OC, whole pc is air cooled btw

@fortniteaccount 194 this is ray tracing dude, your 1070 would overheat with these graphics no joke. The mod creator says you need a 1080 or higher.

But isn't that what cryptocurrencies were made for?

trolololo720 Graphics cards weren’t made for miners do you have my fucking edu. Goddamn

@fortniteaccount 194 Graphics cards weren't in the start made for gaming, there are cards that are made for mining. Same for gaming or what ever you do

fortniteaccount 194 you’re mistaking heat and temperature. Even though your 1070 has good fans on it, it’s still producing 500 watts of heat when it's under full load because it's a 500 watt card. The temperature of the card doesn't get too much higher, but that's because the heat dissipates into the room. Hence all computers are space heaters that happen to do calculations

william smith he cant hear us he got airpods

@Sussus amogus No. It would get hot but not overheat. If it overheated that would be a design flaw or a faulty card.

@Alexander M the 1070 ti will consume about 200-300wats under load lol

Mitjkp then it's a 200-300 watt space heater. The point still stands. I was just going off the wattage you get when you Google "1070 wattage" :P

@fortniteaccount 194
First of all, that was a joke. No need to get so mad about it. But you completely missed the point, I didn't say graphics cards were made for mining, that's ridiculous and chronologically impossible. I was saying cryptos were invented to turn hardware into personal space heaters :V

Sun: *exists*
Nuclear bombs: hello
Sun: *sips tea*
Minecraft raytracing computer: hold my beer
Sun: OH FU-

Just gonna put this out here, minecraft is mainly a CPU based game, yes it utilises both but alot of the time it runs mainly off of your CPU, yes, your pc would be still a space heater, would be the same on pretty much any game with ultrahigh settings but still, all u lot complaining about GPU's when MC is mainly ran from your CPU.

Bingo Minecraft can run on any shitty cpu!

@fortniteaccount 194 why is it that big of an issue to you LOL

Javier Diaz I replyed to someone who said Minecraft is CPU INTENSIVE which is true but can run on shittyest of cpus

Javier Diaz or maybe because my aftermarket EVGA cooler is better than yours!

@fortniteaccount 194 you obviously don't know how thermo dynamics work 🤦‍♂️

fortniteaccount 194 well you certainly did reply to someone that it was CPU INTENSIVE and that it could be run on shitty cpus but that’s not what you were originally debating

fortniteaccount 194 as for your your cooler that made me laugh. Maybe the reason you get 70 degrees max is because you’re playing fortnite. On a long session i struggle to break 60 degrees💁‍♂️ just saying kid.

My laptop is fully metal and so if I get cold, I just fire up Minecraft or Google earth flight simulator

@AntTheMan the gtx series is made for gaming.

@Bingo the graphics are handled by that gpu though, it's not that poorly optimised.

@Javier Diaz simply having it on will spin cpu and case fans.

@Dylan Harding yeah but there are GTX Titans which aren't made for gaming, GTX cards aren't only made for gaming

@Dylan Harding The only thing handled by the gpu there is the actual shading & ray tracing, the rest is CPU based, thats java for ya, mainly cpu based, still doesnt change the fact that every1 is being pissy about gfx cards

@Bingo even java is optimised enough for graphics on the gpu.

@Dylan Harding Still mainly CPU based, Shaders & Ray Tracing, mainly when it comes to texture smoothing & stuff like that is on the GFX card, the rest is on the CPU, java has decent optimisations on cpu but could be better.

@Alexander M It's not a 500W card tho, it's like 160 under full load and conventional heaters are like 10x more power hingry.

I don't think he has a mac

Bruh just literally make your fan run at 100%. I run most games at the highest graphics available, and my computer doesn't go over 55c

Besides the fact that it’s a shitty 1000$ heater lmao

What the fuck kind of argument have I created.

Long Plays lol I know this is not my main account just my side ting

Alexander M 500 watt card you obviously no nothing about pc’s in GENERAL! I even play rec room on the beautiful preset and my gpu is only at 55c constantly!!And to add to the fact that your wrong my psu is 550watt EVGA Gold certified and my Cpu tams more than 50 watts for a fucking fact

Rec room on my HTC VIVE PRO to add

How about we all settle on the fact that fortniteaccount 194 is 13, had his parents pay for his setup and knows nothing about computers.

And give it the sound of a aeroplanes engine

Crunchy_Fry how my dad and mom are divorced my mom doesn’t give me shit she didn’t get me shit for my birthday either while she’s drowning in debt!

Even a good source of fireworks

@fortniteaccount 194 Then why don't you help her out with all that money you have, seeing as you spent so much on your computer.

its a win win

@Jack Morosoff His mom bought his computer.

U pay more for electricity

Captain Hologram the thing about all of these fancy shaders is that it’s not true ray tracing, it’s path tracing witch might as well be the same thing but in the end Minecraft lack all support for rtx ray tracing whatsoever.

im calling the polygon police

Actually this doesn't seem to look dynamical, though. I assume all this stuff was precalculated and baked into textures. Convince me i'm wrong by walking the same scene with the light source, a torch for example.

@kennedy moreiras r/woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh

lil_ king what do you even mean? Lots of people seem to think that path tracing in Minecraft shaders is raytracing, I just wanted to clear up confusion. I get the joke, it’s just that path tracing can raytracing are not the same thing because that would make rtx cards worthless.

@kennedy moreiras rtx cards are gimmick.

@Nobodyy 1211 i would actually only buy it for this feature although $2000 is not worth it

What in the hell is the difference between a Rtx and a gtx then

@Darksynth781 E RTX does ray-tracing and has a little more power and costs $1000 more than a GTX

So I have a gtx 1070 which can’t do ray tracing then?

@kennedy moreiras what? Nvidia GPUs just have some specific hardware to utilise ray tracing...

Chris Moorhead yes, the 1070 cannot do raytracing.

Fairfox what do you mean, that’s what I’m saying. rtx cards have rt cores for raytracing, which are missing on gtx cards.

Cries in 950M

FroztByte Gamer rip, the 900 series graphics cards didn’t age well and didn’t transfer to laptops the best compared to the 1000 series.

@CanadianBluePants Where are you getting your figures from? There are no RTX Cards besides the titan that are over $1000. The Rtx 2060 is going for about $349 right now which happens to be $60 more than the 1 tier lower GTX 1660 ti and would be plenty powerful enough to run ray tracing in minecraft, if it was supported lol.

@Cody Medrano AUD mate, dont assume everybody lives in the US

@CanadianBluePants Where you live doesn't matter. The price difference will be the same. You will be paying 20-30% more for the next tier up. Not assuming anything just stating that theres not a $1000 price gap between what Gtx cards and rtx cards can do.

kennedy moreiras not forever. continuum is developing a new engine that is fully ray-tracing compatible

@kennedy moreiras the 1070 CAN do ray tracing!

@kennedy moreiras I quote: "I think you're confused about how ray tracing works, ray tracing is bouncing individual rays of light, it can be done on pretty much any hardware. For example, here's a web demo: https://media.tojicode.com/raytrace/ [fyi raytraced lighting is still ray tracing lol]"

@kennedy moreiras This Shader includes:
- Fully Pathtraced Global Illumination (with infinte bounces)
- Fully Raytraced reflections (+roughness) No Screenspace.
- Glass Block refractions
- Support for PBR textures

Fairfox no it can’t. That’s the whole point of rtx cards. Gtx cards can path trace, but no raytracing on them.

AMusic海の精神 I don’t mean that, I just mean like real time ray tracing in games like what rtx cards do is not possible for non ray tracing gpus, as in only rtx cards can ray trace real time in games, but Minecraft lacks support for any ray tracing.

AMusic海の精神 this wouldn’t be raytracing, Minecraft doesn’t support that or at least not yet. It is all path tracing, or at least the Nvidia standard of rtx ray tracing.

Crap, im on a gtx 970m

Henry Nguyen oh rip, the 70 series is solid quality and even if the 900 series didn’t age as well it still performs thesame as a modern 1050ti, so not obsolete or bad by any means.

@kennedy moreiras i completely agree, the 970 has always worked for me very well, i was making a joke about how the 970m has slightly lower specs. Infact for vr it recommends a minimum 970, and the 970m didnt cut it (still worked XD)

Oh boy. Lots of misinformation here.
1) path tracing is a form of ray tracing, specifically Monte Carlo ray tracing.
2) Having RTX cores just means you have specialized hardware for ray-triangle intersection and can therefore utilize the DXR API to trace rays.
3) cards that don't have RTX cores can still be used to do ray tracing, it'll just be a lot slower.

@kennedy moreiras ALL GRAPHICS CARD CAN RAY TRACE... But you will need to wait a few hours until the frame finishes rendering... RTX cards are made for Ray Tracing because they have Tensor cores it has thr hardware to boost the performance of the game... You can do Ray tracing on GTX 1060 6GB and above it was approved by nvidia so yea.. Just... ALL gpus can do ray tracing it's just not in real time... let's say there is a RTX 2080 without RT cores/Tensor cores... You would loose so much perfomance because of that.. That is why they have those cores so the fps would be higher simple xd

KajMak64Bit yeah, Nvidia releases drivers to allow all gtx cards above 1060 I think to ray trace. Of course the only gtx card that can raytrace worth a damn is the gtx 1080 ti, while the 1060 and 1070 get solid 10 fps.

heroclix0rz I’m just talking about the Nvidia rtx ray tracing here, and cards that arnent rtx outside of the 1080ti are not worth ray tracing at all.

@kennedy moreiras wrong. With the latest driver that just released, the Ray tracing api was just released to gtx cards. I tested BF5 with DXR on my 1070 and it worked fine at a just playable rate.

@kennedy moreiras nah man you can only path trace on a map because you need the hardware support from the paper, you must be thinking about Ray marching.

This is how mafia work

A Brit & Whovian most cards can’t ray trace at the level of the rtx cards, you have to set the settings to medium to get playable frame rates while raytracing. If your 1070 was out through the raytracing that rtx cards are supposed to go through it would not be playable, even a 1080ti at ultra raytracing can only pull 30-40 FPS.

now nvidia is releasing drivers to allow pascal and turing gpus to ray trace without rt cores lol

now is legal jeje but not for the 970 soooo

Random Meme Encounter lmao the only gtx cards that can raytrace worth a damn without slashing frame rates or settings is the 1080ti.

@kennedy moreiras this kind of shader would burn a gtx 970

@The14Some1 it is completely dynamical

@Darksynth781 E ,
RTX cards have Tensor and RT cores and thus can do Ray (and Path) tracing more efficiently. All CPU's and GPU's can do ray tracing given software support as it's just MATH in the end. What matters is how efficiently you can do it.


RTX cards are NOT a gimmick. That doesn't mean they are necessarily a good value now or in the near future though but value is subjective to the user. Also, anything optimized for ray and pathtracing can also be utilized for other tasks including advanced AUDIO path finding to simulate the real world so a game engine could for example bounced a limited number of "rays" of sound from say your feet off walls, through a window, into another room for an enemy to detect rather than the current very simple cone radiating out from a player in 2D.


Path tracing appears to be far less efficient but more realistic so in terms of just realism it is PT, RT, Rasterization in order of most to least. Since this is hardly my area of expertise here's a link:
https://www.dusterwald.com/2016/07/path-tracing-vs-ray-tracing/


Finally, RTRT (real time ray tracing) is just starting and is definitely not going away. The 2020 consoles will support RTRT which should really push adoption in the PC space through cross-platform games especially if there's minimal effort to support RTX, NAVI and other GPU's in addition to the console NAVI GPU's. It will get more efficient. More optimized. I fully expect TES6 (Skyrim successor) to utilize a combination of Photogrammetry, rasterization as per normal, and RTRT optional additions.


Minecraft style games are also less demanding to start than many games and therefore can achieve RTRT while also maintaining a high FPS and resolution at high quality settings.


For RTRT to really shine though, you need to focus on things that are hard to do with regular rasterization hacks. Finally, RTRT is actually theoretically much easier to program for because you don't have to do pre-baking and changing lights doesn't require you to redo all that etc. That works well for a console that supports if you have the game coming out for the PC world you'll need to do all that work anyway then offer RTRT as an option. So adoption of RTRT is going to depend a lot on both resource usage of the system hardware and how much hassle it is to implement though obviously it will get much easier over time, especially as game engines like UE4 and Unity start adding in code to automate this.

(by "minimal effort" I meant if it doesn't take much extra effort to make RTRT in a game coded for the PS5 also support newer desktop GPU's. Poor wording.)

You keep saying ps5 has it been officially announced that it will support ray tracing will the next Xbox support it to

Yeah, I was just about to say

Actually nvidia couldn't keep it shut only for rtx's so they "share" it, but only by directX

@Gabriel Kellar i am calling the triangle police

@The14Some1 it is dynamic, but it takes 4 frames to update

@Doufmech yes, but not with hardware acceleration, it can only use software-only solutions which are far less efficient

Omg i said that

One that is 10 times worse. Perhaps the end of the world.

XD







OH YEAH I BROKE THE "LOL" CHAIN

XD

@Toshiro Plays XD

:/




I broke the ";-;" chain

Maybe he did, and thats how we got the black hole photo.

@That Guy lol

Lol

W4T






i broke everything

I can't blame the guy, he wants to keep he's PC.

@That Guy xdd

Because they are blind and don't see that it clearly says he used a GTX 970 with an i7 4790k. Either that, or they ignore it to make stupid "jokes". 🙄

Like rendering 100.000 TNT exploded lol

nah... that was a few years ago before the ray tracing hype but i guess you can put it that way too.

@F.M.F96 I think he's thinking of Hytale

@Ray K > I think he's joking :p

@Omar El Ekiaby > It wasn't clear if Ray & FMF were joking or not

@F.M.F96 Joking about? Just wait.

There actually is a new Minecraft coming. It has a trailer. And it's not a story mode one either

@F.M.F 96 r/ wooooosh

@F.M.F96 r/wooooooosh

chill yall... why the salt? me amd ecto were just gagin n all.

@Dolu Dolu lol

Quake???

Mojang is arguably a Triple-A studio

Jean it’s a indie game

FlamingArsenal not anymore

Ever since it got bought by microsoft and geta funded millions every year im pretty sure its considered a Triple A studio now

It is not a triple A game. It is based on the money and production team scale when it was being made it was a indie game later having a triple a budget.

TryHard it’s still considered a indie game because when it was developed by mojang first and was a indie game it doesn’t matter if Microsoft bought it because they didn’t create it as a Triple A studio but a indie studio did

Better tbh

@FlamingArsenal true I guess

Minecraft is a Triple AAA game especially with how it’s owned and published by MSFT on so many platforms and the marketing it gets.

It's an indie game with triple a money.

Yup, good graphics but ultimately unplayable. It's got Triple-A written all over it.

@A Totally Legit Nigerian Prince so, AAAAAAAAA

It is the most profitable game in the world, through the sale of toys, the games and others

The Java version is considered to be an indie game, while the rest of minecraft is considered triple a

Usually, the terms "triple-A title" usually refer to game which had a very large initial production cost. But the terms kind of get used for many things now, so its really arguable whether Minecraft is triple-A...

Lets just say a semi triple A game

@Ainz that's a double a game.

@Lewis Marsh r/woooosh

Could you consider Microsoft a Triple-A studio?

Alexander Sindorf yes

Acid interstate v3?

No they mean the animated music videos with the nice lighting, etc.

Yeah, the power of raytracing...now in real time :)

@Dalodrin MINE DIAMONDS INTENSIFIES

Hungryminecraft so we back in the mine

Not "better graphics" just more realistic reflections. It's a big difference. Adding path or ray-tracing to a Minecraft game doesn't make it more "realistic" than a game like Battlefield. It's apples and oranges.

@Jeffrey Photonboy still have better graphics or some ray tracing shits than other ultra far cry bf 5 or some sort of games that have ultra realistic graphics..

Yesss

OrangeC7 2 titan rtx cards and a super expensive headset later with the e4 version of the shader so its compatible with forge so You can install vive craft or other and it could hapen

This is talk about it on the seus dichord

VR is already more than 4K in a lot of headsets

Thanks for the correction(?) I added a note to my comment

With two RTX 2080ti you can probably play at 8k@40fps

@John Theux huh good luck trying to render 33 billion pixels at even 5 or 10 fps
for comparison 1080p renders at around more than 2 million pixels

+Vlad With DLSS on you can play at 4k@80 fps so 8k@20 fps with a single 2080ti so if there is 2x scaling (which is probably not) you can hope to play at 8k@40fps with 2 cards

Maybe with two RTX Titans for that extra VRAM needed to play at 8k LOL

+Hoss Cartwright Yeah, 80fps@4k was for justice online anyway, not star citizen.

More like 3 with the progress technology makes

@John Theux Depending on what you are looking at maybe however 8k40fps won't be easy

@Chandler JC But star citizen used procedural maps that are gigantic. I really wonder how hard it is to bake the lightning for such huge maps with dynamic light. Raytracing seems to be an huge improvement.

@John Theux oh yea im sure they will implement it, but 8k40fps with ray tracing on won't be possible for another couple years id say at least, especially star citizen.

@Chandler JC Another thing will be 3d. With one image for each eye that will be even harder. (i hope they will start to build 3d screens again but there is also vr like the pimax 8kx with native 4k for each eye)

@John Theux BUT KOT RAY TRACED BECAUSE STSR CITZEN DEVS HAVE NOT IMPLEMENTED IT

@salm I already know that, why do you used capital letters???

Vlad 33 MILLION lmao

8192x4608 = 37748736
1920x1080 = 2073600
8k needs 18.2 times the time or calculating speed of full HD to render a single frame on the same hardware.
That means, if your hardware would get you 145 frames per second in full HD, it would only give you an average of 8 fps in 8k.
Of course the computational power needed to perform techniques like anti-aliasing is exponentially higher with that mass of data since all of it has to be recalculated, I'd guess it would be stuck at 1-3fps.
With 2 RTX 2080ti you may be able to get like 20fps + - depending on the game and if you turn off anti-aliasing.

@FotoschoPro Most screens will be 7680X4320 so 16 times full hd.

15 yrs later you gonna want 16k 480fps

Vlad I don't think 8k is 33 billion pixels.

@Random Portugal 33 million

I just want Star Citizen to be completely anything.

@vlad rtx titans in sli can do 8k 60 easily at max settings

@FotoschoPro ,
FPS is not directly proportional to the pixel count, especially going forward. Lots of things including anti-aliasing are less demanding proportionately (you wouldn't even do AA at 8K) as the resolution increases. A lot of games currently are closer to 40% the FPS at 1080p vs 4K though you'd expect 25% if it was linear and that's at the SAME exact settings using some AA but again you'd realistically increase the AA for 1080p more than 4K so 4K in that respect is about 2x more demanding not 4x.

Haha yeah funny you know what you should do? Read the line under

There is some ray-tracing in addition to path tracing according to his page (Sonic Ether) though it's very confusing because in one part he just says path-tracing and in another part talks about ray tracing reflections. I can't see it being both so I'm going to assume it's just path tracing.

Did anyone reply what the name of the texture pack is?

Yeah but RTX is hardware optimised for it

@Haru Yanto Not optimised, but supposedly has the hardware necessary to run ray tracing

same :)

Bruh intel graphics here.

@Znub crys in macbooks

Yeah i have a gtx 970 too! Very excited for this

I'm running with a 1050 ti rip

Lol, my pc doesn’t even have a GPU.

Radeon RX 580 8 GB.

Nicholas Basaraba It needs a GPU to run properly. You probably have an iGPU.

Rip gt 710

Eyy eyy Intel HD 400 with 128 mb of vram here. Can't even run vanilla java above 30 fps

@Nicholas Kann computers don't need a gpu.

UselessDood... yeah... you can run a computer just fine without a gpu

@Kenopy2 you don't even need an igpu. A lot of people think you do though

@Dylan Harding well yeah of course you don't need one for a computer to function

@Jack look who I was talking to, they seemed to think you do... I was correcting them...

@Dylan Harding if you look back at your original correction pokemon addict was just talking about how you need a gpu to run these shaders when you generalised it to "computer" for no apparent reason. Seems like you missed the entire point he was attempting to convey

@Nicholas Kann ptgi doesnt support amd,kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Well ray tracing just IS realistic by rule, because it really casts rays out off light sources ans/or camera and bounces them around feew times to simulate realistically how light bounces around until it falls into our eyes in real life.

This is on a 970

just a couple questions if you dont mind:
ram speed / timings
SSD/HDD/Hybrid (RAID/non-RAID)
ramcache?
custom java arguments (if using java edition)?
dedicated java mem allocation (and avg usage before garbage collection occures)

I don't know my ram speed off the top of my head. I'm running off a ssd non raid. And the only java modification is allocating 8gbs of ram.

@Lakitu64 have you checked the debug to see how much ram is used before it dumps? im curious how much ram gets filled how quickly, and what your resource usage is (like say in task manager)

1050ti is slower than even a 960

Currently there is refraction but not physically based.

Pathtracing is not faster. Pathtracing is global illumination, reflection, translucency, shadows, caustics etc., while raytracing marketed nowadays takes only one of mentioned to be able to run. It's probably so fast in minecraft because it uses voxel data to store objects, low poly count, only 1-2 bounces, low res lookup, denoising. You've got no clue what path tracing is my man.

yes glowstone, redstone and lapis blocks + lava. But I modified the textures

Fan? He's probably got an entire AC unit hooked up.

Helen Keller would probably hear it

water cooled

@Something real liquid nitrogen cooling

The description says that it was at 60 fps on gtx 970 while he wasnt recording

You don't think these people actually bothered to read the description do you? They probably didn't even watch the video; they just saw the thumbnail and jumped straight into the comments to make "jokes". 🙄

1ups_ Now they do...but thanks to the light from ray tracing :)

I remember when my ol' 970 was one of the best around. I think I need an upgrade after almost 5 years

What are your specs?

@L r7 2700, Vega 64, 16g of ddr4 @ 3200

@Choadis Maximus Hey dude i just watched another video about this and i read comments saying it doesn't work on AMD cards lol so your vega 64 useless for this lol

@L that's interesting, as I know for certain amd cards are capable of ray tracing, have been for longer than Nvidia cards. I'll try it for myself when I have the time

@Choadis Maximus but this is not real ray tracing this is path Tracing a guy said this shader is taking advantage of an ancient open gl thing that amd doesn't have

Notch: Am i Joke To You?

Dead meme

Notch gets no opinions about Minecraft now

Stop acting like a band kid

@Umbra explain to me what a band kid is please

Notch and Minecraft are now completely decoupled (and good riddence tbh)

miku made minecraft. respect her hard work

Thank you miku

@i changed my nickname ma and it was still gay. because band kids spew dead and unfunny memes unironically

@Zikavirus I still don't get it

You: Sucks at spelling
The English language: Am I a joke to you?

@Zikavirus following new memes will just end up dying faster. So using more memes regardless of the time it was created will have less memes being overused in a short time.

@McNibbler the community is divided because of microsoft's new combat system. Notch had great ideas and didnt involve his opinions in his game.

@Zikavirus imma band kid and i am not normie trash.

@Caveman Toe Let's not forget Mr. "white history month", or perhaps Mr. "straight pride month", or Mr. "I'd rather be a facist than transgender", or how could we forget Mr. "don't punch nazis because they're not evil unlike socialists"


need i go on...

that man is such an awful person and unfortunately a massive influence on the kids that are a fan of his game. im glad he's getting completely decoupled from his game.

"Pikachu surprised face" is used when an outcome is obvious to happen but yet people are still surprised or shocked by it. Please use Meme Formats™ correctly.

-Meme 👏 Correction 👏

Voxel*

Don’t Censor Hentai 😂😂😂

I like how Notch is a curse word to these people. Dare say his name and they'll swarm out of the woodwork to chide you for the umpteenth time about how horrible he is.

Did you monitor your ram usage?

Wanna also have my PC with AMD Athlon II 2X 220, 2 GB of RAM and some integrated graphics card?

*GPU

@Nx2 No i meant cpu

@wombit how's that gonna happen? The CPU has basically nothing to do with it

@Zamundaaa ur mum

@wombit bruh

@PROE bait

@wombit who's that amazing person that likes your comments?

@PROE bait

@wombit Now claiming it's bait, as an excuse for your mistake. Great.

@breckr youre still going

how is this comment section still going

@wombit we got us a r/woosher... truly disgusting

@awsomDixie it is truly a piece of art

@wombit lmao

Mom no it’s a gPU ë

as a much more intellectual individual, i can tell you that, in fact,







it is actually the rgb fans that do all the work.

One it's the GPU! Unless you have Integrated Graphics in your CPU, AND if you do it will cause your CPU to hit its MAX TDP and your computer will freeze

@Glitch The Deer I'm pretty sure you're just spouting random words you heard on a tech channel

@Nyunster Nah it makes perfect sense. The TDP is basically the threshold of the power that the CPU can handle or produce or something, and when it hits that the computer will freeze. You can just look this stuff up in five seconds, really not that hard

I just don't know who to r/wooosh

You have to change the specularity texture (blockname_s) to something really bright. For example 100% white will give 100% clear reflections. The darker the texture - the smoother it gets but Cody is still working on the denoising so it's very noisy. For now, you either use no reflections (black texture or delete the texture file) or almost totally clear.

I don't think it would affect the performance. Sonic Ether said that it doesn't uses any of the RT cores...

Nowax II imagine if it did!

@Miunity 7700k and the k stands for overKlocking xD right?

This runs deceptively well. I was incredibly surprised.

Watercools locked cpu lols

Wow your problem is obviously that you don't have an RTX 3080ti

The True Inferno I built it with the intention of buying an 8700k but they were sold out at the time so I bought an 8700 and just went with it

This won't even come close to "killing your system." Look at the specs of the PC used to record this video... Sigh
Also, water cooling a locked CPU... You clearly have other, much bigger struggles...

You know a lot of those shaders are very RAM dependent right?
You can have beefy specs but if you just have 8GB of ram that will really bottleneck stuff like that.

Read the description

You may still have the default 2gb allocated to the game. You can change that by creating and advanced editing a new profile.

Make sure your drivers are up to date.

My 1060 has no troubles running shaders at all. Make sure that you didn’t follow that tutorial from the verge.

@Ramue Not minecraft. Other games yes but even the guy in the video is using DDR3 ram.

Better get that card water cooled as well

NGC 6872 I would but that would require a hardline loop as I have a 1080ti mini from zotac and I don’t think the nzxt g12 would fit it and I don’t really feel like doing it since people already don’t like my decision with the 8700

Non-k watercooled. I really hope you spelt that wrong.

i jave i5 7500 and 1060 3gb and shaders get me 60fps

This is a fucking lie nice watercool on a locked cpu you should be fine running any ultra shaders I used Zeus high on my iMac with intel gpu lol now I have a 1070ti ftw

I have a 2080ti and I want this shader

I know this is a liiitttle bit satiric but I'll take the serious approach and just start by saying:

Wlat motherboard and Ram? Because they matter too :(

I know socket is LGA 1151

OrangeC7 minecraft dosent really run on graphics cards

Xiefux 7500 doesn’t exist

Hol' up! You don't have the overclockable i7 8700? (I7 8700k)

If you use Continuum then yeah it can't run at ultra+. Continuum isnt optimized for shit. Every other pack works fine on ultra for me.
(Intel i7 8700
Gtx 1080
16 gigs ram)

I have a 1050ti i7 and I can run ultra shaders at around 30-60 FPS, which depends on the shader pack being used

I have a rtx 2070 and I can run highest quality shaders with 100+ FPS xD

@Miunity 90 fps? Seriously? In what type of maps?

@Miunity In regular Minecraft worlds (Not flat or void)?

@Miunity huh thats funny, are you using the E5 shader? I think I will be doing some more testing myself now :) Ive only been using it in flat worlds so far

My PC
AMD Athlon II 2X 220 with 2GB RAM
When I try to play MC on lowest rendering I have 20-25 fps

@Miunity add more ram to minecraft

People getting mad at someone for using water cooling on a locked CPU XD
Chill down everyone got their reason for what hardware they use and also maybe you guys don't know but sometime water cooling is a lot quieter than normal air cooling thanks to the bigger dissipation area ( and personally I like more the look of the radiators compared to an heatsink)

@sZenji yeah on intel K is unlocked(if the mobo supports it) on AMD there all unlocked if the mobo supports it

@Fishy It does exist mate. They go from the 7100 all the way up to 7900.

only i7-4710HQ and 980M

@Miunity HAHAHA, ya plebs playing Minecraft with ultra shaders and only getting 90 fps!! I play with EXTREME shaders and get 250 fps!!!!! rtx 2070 for the win!!!

running ultra shaders 2080 no problem 144 fps constantly

With shaders it does

@Glistlo tru

Default Improved PBR, but I made most of them a little smoother so it doesn't distract from the lighting.

@umsoea could u make a download link pls

only 399

you dont need an RTX card
Every Pascal starting from 1060 6gb to Titan XP can use Raytracing with new Nvidia patch aswell as AMDs Vega 56 and better can use it too thanks to Crytek a month ago. probably even a bit lower like a RX580 or 590 should handle Raytracing aswell. Its still just a renderer and can be handled by shader cores - RT cores are just specifically made for that task and regular shader cores are a bit slower but then its also about the gameengine and how efficient it was coded. Minecraft on Java from Microsoft has two problems: Microsoft isnt a good game developer and java is a bad engine. CryEngine 5.5 and Crytek are a way better combo - Crysis 1 was so crazy programmed 10 years ago that it makes 100% use of even todays gaming ultramachines raw power

@Calisota WGPR r/woooosh

​@Calisota WGPR Issa joke

Other Kid: You dont need that!
Kid: Why?
Other Kid: shows GTX970
Other Kid: This thing can run that texture with no problems.

GTX Series: Yes, brother, you were born to be the best, and yet now you have stooped so low as to be marketing for our parents.

"Yes because you're too pricey for our budget."

yes

No because this is Minecraft. A game made like 12 years ago. Of course a GTX 970 can do ray tracing on it in small rooms btw he never pushed it pasted a few blocks at a time. The 2080ti was made for AAA games that came out recently

2080ti is a beast, just way too overpriced.

Default minecraft lighting is not beautifull

@Duka Duka There is beauty in simplicity

@jetso2000 the simplicity has a charm but you cant say its pretty

@Duka Duka depends on personal taste.. for me simple blocks like minecraft do not need hyper realistic light rendering i prefer to let these kind of renders to hyper realistic models and games

when the final version comes out

xclamation do you mean 2080?

Fyi this is not designed to run using the dedicated hardware so it still uses the normal compute shaders till good none the less.

Nathan Harker yes for now RT cores cannot be utilized by optifine, eventually optifine is bound to add it but its a matter of time. for now, powerfull gpus can still run this, dont buy an RTX just for this thou.

Rikko haha yea didnt mean for that, the system i tested on was not mine, and i am still not as familiar with all the rtx cards.

If you donate on patreon to SEUS PTGI, you can get the beta.

In the desc ^^

Nah go to nether

Probably the framerate drops to minus 20 and this was made on a superflat world

That's why we have mods

LOD in minecraft? The whole game is basically the lowest you can get in the level of detail.

@dewolen no? if it was the render distance wouldn't be only 32 chunks

@Sonoflyn I've written a game in the blocky style and I gotta tell you: Those 32 chunks render distance are already very optimized for.
In a render distance of 512 blocks there's literally millions of vertices just from the blocks alone. AFAIK there's no real possibility to reduce that beyond not rendering what you can't see. Doing something like a 1000 blocks render distance is really demanding of the GPU and especially of the driver. It's just too many drawcalls. Especially as, last I checked, minecraft uses a single draw call per block side. That's ridiculously many drawcalls. From 10k or so on the graphics driver slows down tremendously, eating up a lot of CPU time that in minecraft needs to be spent updating the world. And those numbers are easily reached with a render distance of 32 chunks already

@Zamundaaa well they could have an LOD system. Get far enough away from a block and instead of rendering the whole texture it only has a single color on that face, go further away and instead of rendering each single block they get "summed up" into one larger 2x2, 3x3, 4x4, etc. block. Minecraft just renders every exposed face at full texture detail and with the exact same level of geometry detail in a 32 chunk radius of the Player. Of course that's demanding

@Sonoflyn but you can see blocks in a distance of 500 blocks pretty well. It would definitely look weird.
I have to inform you that sampling a texture and using just a colour has virtually no performance difference. Especially since Minecraft isn't fragment bound but more vertex bound, so it basically doesn't matter what they so with their textures. And of course above all it's more CPU bound then anything else.

@Zamundaaa You could still at least have lower geometry detail the further you go away from something like almost every open world game has.

@Sonoflyn but Minecraft is already like low poly * 300. I don't see how you could reduce vertex count of their models even further.

@Zamundaaa like I said, just use larger blocks. If you had a cube consisting of 8 blocks you could just turn it into one larger block that would have 4x less faces

@Sonoflyn the texture stuff is already a thing in minecraft. It's called mipmapping

@Zamundaaa sampling a texture is actually not all that light. It's usually one of the things you should reduce to optimize your shaders. Its not heavy to sample a texture, but its not that light

I think you can bump up the rd with optifine, at least if you allocate more ram. I gave it 4gigs, and now I can run 62 chunks rd

@Real Human yeah but that's just more demanding and still doesn't really allow you to look very far

@Zamundaaa minecraft uses 1 draw call per chunk. It takes 3 sides of every cube that is exposed to air, then makes a mesh out of them per chunk. Everytime something in the chunk updates, the mesh gets recalculated. If the edge of a chunk gets updated, the chunk next to it will also update it's mesh

@Luuk van Oijen so they have upgraded that to proper meshes? I didn't know that.
For a loong time they just used a draw call / those old OpenGL functions per cube side.

@Zamundaaa i dont think they ever did. Do you know how incredibly slow that would be :O

@Luuk van Oijen uh yeah it's slow. Minecraft was never really optimized much for anything.
It took them ages to go from legacy OpenGL where they basically drew per side, and everything submitted every frame from the CPU to even have VBOs as an option. I think that option came in 1.7 or something. And even then they probably just used a VBO to store a single block side...

@Zamundaaa i severly doubt it. Try rendering every block individually on the cpu, or even on the gpu, and you will quickly see that it will be waaaaay slower than minecraft ever was

@Luuk van Oijen I did that once. In a horribly inefficient way for the CPU. Could still render a view distance of like 200-300 blocks just fine with my old potato computer. It wasn't great or efficient but it worked. Minecraft's render distance was a lot smaller in the old days not without reason...

This is AN Hlsl shader, not Real raytracing

@Wdowa94 its, drx ( DirectX ray tracing)

​@Frutyl Instrumentals this is neither HLSL or DXR... this is OpenGL...shaders mod doesn't just magically change the entire rendering api.

Read the description maybe? sonic ether's unbelievable shaders

@Mageh-The-Foh That is not just a shader, that is a combination of their shader and a resource pack. I have their shader, while the lighting effects are phenomenal, it does not have those textures.

@Laser411 Oh right you meant the actual resource pack

The shader mod is in dev, only patron supporters can get access, ask Sonic

@Haru Yanto I've got the shader but that alone doesn't have those textures unless I am doing something wrong

@Laser411 Download PBR resource pack, for example: https://github.com/Poudingue/Vanilla-Normals-Renewed-1.12

that's not how it works

That's done with shaders, not texture packs

1. It's path tracing, not ray tracing
2. Optifine is not even able to utilize the RT Cores in RTX cards

@ETERNAL DREAMER Can this shaders works on AMD RX cards?

Jakub Stekla probably yes

@Jakub Stekla Sadly i heard it doesn't work on AMD Cards

it will explode

@EddieConfetti E1 "works", E2 doesnt work, e3-e5 Java error

I tried It with an RX580: crashes the game. But I don't know... AMD messed up the drivers, and i can't get the shaders to look properly, most of them have garbage graphics on screen, the only one that It's "perfect" is Chocapic. It looks bad on an RX460, too.

It doesn't work on AMD cards as AMD doesn't properly support a feature that is central for raytracing in Minecraft. That feature is only necessary due to the decade old version of OpenGL the game is using, though, so if the game was using a more modern version of OpenGL, it could absolutely run on AMD cards.

Hey :)

Could you explain what in particular is weird with the lava?

The texture or the acutual light that is illuminating other things?
I made the texture completely smooth so the light sources don't distract from the shadows etc.

@umsoea well I am no professional but I think a little bit of texture would be good but it's only personal preference and I think a lot of people is satisfied with this!

​@DragoFX_ Thanks a lot! I'll think about changing this. :)

@umsoea no problem!

The video upscaler probably won't do anything, the only thing it could do is it might change how the video is decoded, and it might smooth some lines but I don't know how that would affect Ray tracing

Seems like you dont know ray tracing exists for years and runs on pretty much any cpu and gpu. Pathtracing is an more advanced version of raytracing.

Nvidia rtx card has that feature

Shadow Ray tracing and reflection tracing + etc

Just wait for nvidia new driver,they will give free reflection tracing but a discount version,not as good as rtx card has.


The only reason why nvdia do this is because cryengine shows a demo with ray tracing (reflection only) with a vega 56.well,they know they cannot sell their bullshit much longer so to makes nvidia looks good they give ray tracing to all pascal card.while they already rake as much money they can with the rtx scheme.

Imo,ray Tracing really shows its beauty on old games.new games has too much detail and barely take advantage of this technology.

Hoping to see more old school games with ray Tracing

That's up to how he set the values of the materials.

No, as far as I know this shader might even run better on non-rtx cards. It doesn't use any of the nvidia raytracing stuff.

@umsoea any idea if it will work on a 1060 6gb?

@Comment Channel it works.

We should buy RTX 2080.

2 things:
1: minecraft (java edition at least) is heavily CPU bound. as well as heavily reliant on arguments (such as garbage collection, editing this can give you/take away a decent chunk of preformance). Iv had ranges of 25 fps - 150fps just by changing arguments and tweaking settings.
2:this is path tracing, which is very similar to ray tracing. This technique produces similar GI and real time dynamic lighting and shadows to ray tracing and is a bit more effecient and can run (as in be actually playable) on non-rtx cards. also Raytracing can run on any card, its just RTX has extra dedicated silicon to assist. Doing raytrace rendering say in maya or 3dsmax can show you a similar effect to running RT on a non-rtx card. i used to use raytracing rendering plugins all the way back to gtx 590's

Yeah thanks to the mods. Not the games studio work.

it "works" but the perf might vary wildly yet it runs fairly well, im using a full reflective and shiny texture pack to force massive amouts of reflections and well with 32 chunks render it gives me 30-40 fps, with a superflat world (but full reflective surface) so actually terrible case scenario, with a normal texture pack and a normal world with bumped UP shader settings and a 128x pack i average at 60-70 fps with a 1080 so, yea ur 1060 might not do 32 chunks but...

Link is at top. I went to it and there is an installation guide link. However, I can't find a download link though way down the page I clicked on what looked like one and it took me to a Patreon sign-up which requires at least $1USD per month.
It will not utilize the RT and Tensor cores of your RTX card but it will work on your NVidia card. Apparently it's pretty buggy though. Latest version is SEUS PTGI v6.

It looks so great

Ray tracing can be done without RTX, plus NVIDIA is going to do a patch this month for the GTX 1060 6gb and up to enable RTX with lower quality.

It’s been done in quake already

Pretty much all maxed out. Responsiveness is set to 0.

Ray tracing has always been thing before RTX cards, don't need one to run Ray tracing

more likely this is path tracing, which is close enough visually that most situations it can pass off as it. PT doesnt care about poly count like RT does, just how many lights and dynamic effects are happening at once.

@EPHiiOS İTS still complex

@Allyjhan Tallin no denying that, but this actually is a step forward. Not only a way to make games look and feel better without massive power requirements, and as a way to innovate the tech. I mean the fact they got shades to work in a Java game alone is crazy. I can't wait to start a forge in my pc case using this!

KyleTheScientist lmao the Rx series doesn’t support real time ray tracing infact no AMD card does only Nivida as of now

@FlamingArsenal How come it works on the 1050Ti when the Nvidia drivers say 1060 and up?

Mr X2 can run on a mid tear system as You saw it, ex gtx 1060 or 970

Well, more people are searching for raytracing :)

Ray tracing has always been a thing before RTX cards

@Haru Yanto I know but the RTX's were meant for Ray-tracing. kinda the joke

You're welcome, I'll just stick with 60fps with shades and texture packs mods, since I don't need high FPS for a single player game

Do you have 2060 or 2080?
I have RTX 2080 EVGA Ultra XC 3 slots

Goku Godly Zotac 2060. I wasn’t gonna get one but there was a deal for it where I could get Battlefield V, and I’ve been wanting that game

this is path tracing, which is very similar to ray tracing. This technique produces similar GI and real time dynamic lighting and shadows to ray tracing and is a bit more effecient and can run (as in be actually playable) on non-rtx cards. also Raytracing can run on any card, its just RTX has extra dedicated silicon to assist. Doing raytrace rendering say in maya or 3dsmax can show you a similar effect to running RT on a non-rtx card.

David Palomino he is not using any texture pack

Azarilh wel he not use a ryx he use a gtx 970 for this video

@Jonathan Yeah but it's only 30 fps.

Azarilh ye but when he dont not record he get 50-70fps read description

People who don't understand that RTX is a marketing ploy just like PhysX was. You don't need neither of those for raytracing or physics in games.

@just a bbygal RTX kinda was but they did make a proprietary chip on the cards meant for rendering the popular ray tracing method and it is more efficient

NO CONTENT FOUND Nope, it’s the opposite, it’s using path tracing which is more complicated than ray tracing

Whats about path ray ray pAtH RaY TrAcIng?

And what do you propose it is? Screen space reflections?
:)

@just a bbygal was expecting ray-tracing with the rtx-2080ti

Get torcheszz

This shader supports raytraced reflections. You can see other videos of it - for example my first one. No screen space reflection.

hey :) ray tracing is nothing new. It's used for many years in all kinds of rendering applications and can be used on pretty much any card. You can even run it on cpus. RTX is mostly marketing and exploiting people who don't know this by selling them old technology.

The problem is that raytracing exists for years, runs on pretty much any card, and rtx is mostly marketing :)

@umsoea THIS.

You can download this shader by supporting the developer (Sonic Ether) on Patreon. Gold Tier Rank

actually you can, its just RTX mode is forced by nvidia to only be on RTX cards, ray tracing has been usable for ages, just not effectively. and amd was shown running RT as well recently.

i believe its only private access.the makers patreon has a reward tier to gain access to it, thou it might have changed

It's a shader pack

it seems to be pathtracing from what iv read up on. and ray tracing is possible on non-rtx cards (otherwise how could you use RayTrace plugin in 3dsmax years ago on the GTX5xx series)

It was path tracing not ray tracing

please, RTX and raytracing is something different

@fyz okay.

fyi ray tracing is actually more than pretty reflections, it affects GI and light bounce. like say putting a red wall and white floor, the light will bounce off the red wall and cast a red tint onto the floor. it also does very accurate real time shadows and caustics.

This Shader includes:
 - Fully Pathtraced Global Illumination (with infinte bounces)
 - Fully Raytraced reflections (+roughness) No Screenspace.
- Glass Block refractions
- Support for PBR textures

You can test the shaders if you want... It is not as if this was a top secret project that only he has access to.

I dont think so

RTX =/= Raytracing
RTX is a marketing scam just like PhysX was.
You never needed a PhysX card to have physics in video games, and you will never need an RTX card for raytracing.
Raytracing is one of the earliest techniques used to render a three dimensional space, not just lightning/luminosity
Nvidia is trying to push this technology further to become mainstream for game developers to integrate into their games.
Like I said, you never needed a PhysX gpu to "accurately" display falling objects and material tearing, but Nvidia's marketing ploy made it a requirement for these features to work in Mirrors Edge for example.

@just a bbygal So that means I can actually experience ray tracing on my GTX 1070ti?

Walls reflect light to other walls and this light gets reflected again and again. It's infinite bounces, I have some other videos where it's more visible (e.g. colorful walls). It is fully pathtraced (raytracing alone can't do this) global illumination like in physically based render engines :)

@umsoea thats the best answer i could've thought off. i have no idea if it's even possible on our current engines or hardware. but pathtracing would be the next step for sure

Its enough for minecraft

yes and no. technically you can run ray tracing rendering plugins but it will chug. rtx uses dedicated chips to assist in rendering (think a dedicated rendering cpu, which was done ages ago on old workstation cards). what this is, as far as i am aware, is pathtracing which is extremely similar, and since it is not depended on poly count like ray tracing, it runs better (until you make the scene more light complex).

this is path tracing, which is very similar to ray tracing. This technique produces similar GI and real time dynamic lighting and shadows to ray tracing and is a bit more effecient and can run (as in be actually playable) on non-rtx cards. also Raytracing can run on any card, its just RTX has extra dedicated silicon to assist. Doing raytrace rendering say in maya or 3dsmax can show you a similar effect to running RT on a non-rtx card.

@EPHiiOS its still no raytracing

Glowstone lava or torches

@Comment Channel k

The sword is a texture I made some time ago. It looks "shiny" even without shaders. Only a texture. But really cool you noticed this!

Haha well true it's below 30 on maxed out settings. But my Pc isn't very good. I did I few other videos where I test it outside.

Yes it does. Ray tracing has been done since 2006.

You are right... goddamn I was watching a video all the time and thought I was actually playing. Thanks man!

Know your shit first tho

@umsoea wdym?

You can't utilize RTX without an RTX card just like you can't utilize PhysX without a PhysX card. Does not mean that you can't do raytracing or have physics in games with a 970. @I I

@just a bbygal I never said that. You can't Realtime raytrace unless you have an RTX card. I am aware that you can render out Raytracing..

Ray tracing has always been thing before RTX cards, don't need one to run Ray tracing

Oh boy, just because they say only RTX card can make RTX, it do not mean it's true, you can emulate raytracing with different method

it's not RTX. RTX is marketing. Raytracing/Pathtracing is something that exists for years and now it is slowly getting integrated into real time rendering engines. A GTX 970 is probably not the best choice, but it shows that this stuff even runs on this pretty old card :)

@umsoea Ooooh I get it. thanks for clearing it up
I need to learn more about modern gpu's lol, I still run a gt 220

GTX 970 evolved to GTX 1070 evolved to RTX 2070.

Because they can?

@User Yeah I guess that's the only reason to do this, I can't see anyone actually playing minecraft with this.

Ray tracing has always been a thing before RTX cards, don't need one to run Ray tracing

this is path tracing, which is very similar to ray tracing. This technique produces similar GI and real time dynamic lighting and shadows to ray tracing and is a bit more effecient and can run (as in be actually playable) on non-rtx cards. also Raytracing can run on any card, its just RTX has extra dedicated silicon to assist. Doing raytrace rendering say in maya or 3dsmax can show you a similar effect to running RT on a non-rtx card. i used to use raytracing rendering plugins all the way back to gtx 590's

E13Da yeah but it’s not ray tracing.

@TorchMobileHome if you notice I said it's very similar. I didn't say it was. Visually it's similar enough to be mistaken for one another if done correctly. And raytrace rendering can be done on a none rtx card. Raytracing in games is locked to rtx because that's how it was made to run. And amd is also now getting into raytracing as well.

E13Da not tru but aoght

@TorchMobileHome if it's not true could you explain how 3ds max 2015 and Maya had raytrace rendering modes? Pretty sure rtx didn't exist back then

E13Da exactly, it was not ray tracing

Why do you attack a subject that you don't know anything about?
RTX the name of a graphics card. Raytracing is a rendering technique.

@just a bbygal why do you talk about a subject that you don't know anything about ? Raytracing is possible on personal computers since the RTX series, it was too demanding in performances before the RTX series to be used on a PC. So every computer that have a GC under the RTX series is doing rasterization, not raytracing.

i believe its only private access.the makers patreon has a reward tier to gain access to it, thou it might have changed

yes its path tracing

Raytracing has nothing to do with textures, raytracing is a realistic simulation of illumination and reflections rendered in real time.

Dude,don't mess with yourself.It will be supported I think but they are not as good as 980ti

Integrated gpus aren't as good as a real gpu lmao

i think you are the second person on here who actually noticed that lol. but honestly PT is close enough to RT that its passable in a game. Not in realistic renders but close enough :P

What if I told you path tracing is a more advanced version of raytracing?